The Dr Louise Newson Podcast - 03 - Content creator Charlotte Craig on overcoming adversity and taking charge of your health

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

On this week's episode, Charlotte Craig, a hugely successful content creator with nearly one million followers on TikTok joins Dr Louise Newson in the studio to share her journey to recovery from a tr...aumatic injury – the highs, the lows, and the profound shift in perspective that followed. The pair also touch on the importance of understanding your hormone health at any stage.   In 2022, Charlotte, then a secondary school teacher, saw her life take an unexpected turn. What was meant to be a fun day of paddleboarding ended in a devastating leg injury. Forced to leave teaching behind, she found a new path in content creation, using social media to document her experiences and inspire others to embrace their authentic selves.  Now 27, Charlotte has also become more mindful of what she puts into her body, including her choices around contraception. She admits that when she first got the contraceptive implant, she didn’t fully understand how it worked – an experience many young women can relate to. The conversation delves into contraception, with a focus on the need for better education around the hormones, and the differences between synthetic and natural hormones. This honest and empowering discussion highlights the importance of asking questions, making informed choices, and owning your decisions with confidence. As Charlotte puts it: ‘My outlook has always been, who cares? Whether it’s not wearing makeup, staying in pyjamas all day, or not shaving your legs, just do what feels right for you.’ To learn more about Charlotte, visit her Instagram here and TikTok here Watch the episode on YouTube Episode transcript We hope you're loving the new series! Share your thoughts with us on the feedback form here and if you enjoyed today's episode, don't forget to leave a 5-star rating on your podcast platform.  LET'S CONNECT  Website: Dr Louise Newson Instagram: @drlouisenewsonpodcastLinkedIn: Louise Newson | LinkedIn Spotify: The Dr Louise Newson Podcast | Podcast on Spotify YouTube: Dr Louise Newson - YouTube Email dlnpodcast@borkowski.co.uk for any media enquiriesLEARN MORE Sign up to my Menopause Masterclass Here Sign up for my Confidence in Menopause Class Here Sign up to my Upcoming Webinar Here DISCLAIMER: The information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Dr Louise Newson or the Newson Health Group. 

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Starting point is 00:00:02 So today I've got Charlotte Craig with me. Really excited. I've been stalking you a little bit on your TikTok. Feeling a bit old actually, but I do like the dub jokes. I'll do, yeah. Thank you very much. I love that. I'm glad you do.
Starting point is 00:00:16 So you are a content creator, but something that, you know, changed in your life that made you or sort of made you swing over to this direction. So if I'd met you a few years ago, you wouldn't have any of this experience. So it's great. So let's just talk a little bit about. what you do and how you got into doing what you're doing. Yes. So, like you say, three years ago, I would not be in this position right now. And that's down to some sad times in my life.
Starting point is 00:00:45 But I feel quite privileged that I've got to this point. So basically, I was a secondary school teacher. I taught performing arts and English. Absolutely loved my job. And unfortunately, I had an accident. which meant that I could no longer teach. And to keep myself positive and busy, I started posting content online
Starting point is 00:01:15 and it just grew. And the more I was open about my experiences and, well, I was trying to make myself feel better. It started to make other people laugh and feel better. And then it just kind of grew from there. So I'm very lucky in terms of going from such a dark time to where I am now. Yeah. Because if it wasn't for this, if it wasn't for the accident,
Starting point is 00:01:41 and what I went through, I wouldn't be in this position that we're in right now. So you had quite traumatic, well, not quite very traumatic accident, that came out of the blue that's really changed your course of life, direction, everything. What happened? So I went paddleboarding. It was just kind of I went out with my sister, my boyfriend and her partner and we just decided to go paddleboard
Starting point is 00:02:07 and it was a lovely day it was the 11th of September and we just decided to go paddle boarding and we were told that we could jump off into the water and swim and I'm from the late district as soon as I found out I could get in that water I was straight in it so I was jumping off having a lovely day
Starting point is 00:02:28 and we were about to get out of the water and I said, I'm just going to jump in one more time. I jumped in and didn't realize that the water was shallow in that specific bit. It was just really uneasy, unlevel, sorry, on level, that's not the right word is it, but it wasn't level. Jumped off and my shin and my fema just went into one
Starting point is 00:03:00 and completely dislocated my everything, everything ruptured I snapped my ACL, PCL, MCL, MNNiscis. So that's all the ligaments basically, that support the knee joint. All of them. The only thing that was keeping my...
Starting point is 00:03:24 They were going to have... They thought they were going to have to amput it. but after having a scan I don't know how and I know how lucky I am my blood vessel stayed intact and that was the only thing that stayed intact so since then
Starting point is 00:03:44 I've had four operations so far so this was two and a half years ago four operations so far and still recovering I've had to learn to They said that I may never walk again. But I've proved them wrong twice, so I feel like I can do it at third time. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But I'm getting there, slowly but surely. It's going in the right direction. That's the most important things. Yes, yeah, definitely. And I think it's a lot, isn't it? In life, you've got to be thinking about any positives because everyone I really feel has got, or most people have got a backstory, something that's gone on.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But I do think anything negative can actually make us stronger, make us more resilient, make us different, make us focus on the good things in life and the things that we probably took for granted. Absolutely. Like walking, I don't need to tell you, we take it for granted every time we get off the chair, every time we just get out of bed, you know, looking at what you went through in a hospital, you know, I did see your x-ray and it was an awful. It makes me shudder and it happened to me. No, you're so right. I definitely, it's completely changed my outlook on life. And it's made me so appreciative of the small things in life. And I try, through my content, I try to really send that message as much as I possibly can.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Because everybody, like you say, everybody's got a backstory. Everybody's gone through something, something traumatic, be it something, it doesn't have to be as big as a huge axis. it could be anything, you know, everybody's different, but it teaches you to, you know, apply that to other things in life, to other difficult things that you may go through. And, yeah, like you say, just look at life at a different angle, you know, be appreciative of the fact that you can walk and make yourself a cup of coffee in the morning
Starting point is 00:05:44 or enjoy the nature and stuff. Yeah. So it really, really has changed my outlook on life, I think. And one of the things that came through just again, stalking you on TikTok, was just the closeness of like your mom and other people. And I think often and certainly I'm quite a bit older than you, but you suddenly go through life thinking, oh, I haven't seen any friends, I'm just too focused on work. And then you realize, like, you don't need many friends,
Starting point is 00:06:10 but you do need those ones. Because when something awful happens, that's when you need people there. And it just, like, seeing how much care and love you had, must have made such a difference. Oh, a huge difference. I don't know what I would have done without my partner. I used to be so independent,
Starting point is 00:06:27 so independent fiercely. And I didn't realize how toxic it actually was. Yes. I think because obviously I'm such a advocate for female empowerment, you know, but it got to a point where when I was teaching and when I was doing my own thing,
Starting point is 00:06:42 I would kind of just be like, I can do everything on my own. I can, you know, I can look after myself. I don't need, you know, a partner. I was single for six years, you know. And I got with my partner, I think it was nine months before my accident. So not that long, really? Not long at all.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And to see how he reacted to the change in our circumstances was just inspiring. You know, he was so just there for me and cared for me. And you know what? The hardest part of the accident was letting go of that fierce indifference. that I did have. It was so difficult and I really struggled with it and I would try and kind of push him away at moments because I just thought I can do it on my own but I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And that's definitely something that I learned was that it's okay to have help to have somebody who really cares about you and look after you and like my family and you know the close friends you know having them beside me. and having them to speak to going through it has really, really helped because I would never do that before.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I would never just text or call them if I was feeling down, but now it forced me to, it forced me to reach out, you know. Which is so important and I think it's really interesting, isn't it? I think with social media because, you know, when I was young, there was no internet, there was no social media, which my children find really hard to understand. But also social media, I think, looking at it both ways, so looking at it as you as the content creator who's putting out to people,
Starting point is 00:08:25 but also people who are receiving as well. And it's slightly different in some ways because you're reaching people that you don't know. You don't know from Adam. They're very different to these close family friends. But you do have this sort of like codependency, it's sort of like self-gratification, it is that sort of thing. But then actually it's still not quite a real world. a real world as well, is it? But then it's also, I think,
Starting point is 00:08:53 there's a sort of fine line almost between portraying something that you're not, not for you, but lots of people on social media will have all the filters on. They will look amazing. They will tell you about their perfect day. And, you know, one of my patients aged ago, it just stuck with me because she said to me,
Starting point is 00:09:12 she was very, very depressed. She had lots of things going on. And she said, Dr. Newsom, do you know what? I am so depressed today that I didn't even post on my Facebook. And I do it every day to show people that I'm actually all right. And I thought that's really quite worrying because, you know, it is a bit of an act sometimes on social media.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And then people think that everyone is really positive, but everyone's having a perfect day. And why don't I have a perfect family that never argues or a perfect partner that you never fall out with? And that's not real. And so what you've done is found that balance where you know you're showing the difference between what's perfect and what isn't you know and i think that's really really important though isn't this and i wonder whether that's made people like um
Starting point is 00:09:58 resonate with you a bit more and sort of can feel you because you'll you go from being looking absolutely beautiful all your makeup on to like just this is me you know and that's real life isn't it absolutely and i'm so glad that you picked upon that because that's what i want to do i want to be like, if I'm sad today, I'm going to tell you I'm sad. If I'm angry, I'm going to talk about it, you know. And not to feel the pressure of putting on a facade every single day like I used to. Yes. Which is interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And it wasn't until I started being completely transparent and real, like not wearing my makeup or wearing no bra, you know, like not looking perfect all the time. Because who does? Who can be bothered, you know? And yeah, just showing each element of life because that is what life is. It's not all happy all the time. It's not, I'm going to wake up in the morning and have a shower straight away and make my coffee. You know, if you want to have a lion, have a lion, you know. And do people like that?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Do people comment on that? Yes, they do. I think the conversations that I have with my audience are very much like, without tooting my own horn. But they say how real and how it makes them feel. kind of safe and okay with just being who they are, you know, because I laugh loud, you know, I'm very loud, I talk a lot. And sometimes that's kind of not frowned upon, but people judge you for anything that you do, anything. And I have a very, my outlook on it all
Starting point is 00:11:36 is just being like, who cares? Who cares? I mean, if you want to not wear makeup or, like, you know, wear jammers all day or not shave your legs or. whatever just do it it's fine you're not hurting anyone you know that's that's just my outlook on it and to share that I think is have hopefully having an impact on especially my younger audience yeah and I think it's important to show each element I think it's so important and it's interesting because you don't call yourself a social media influencer no it's more of a creator and it's that it's that fine line and I think it's it's really important to highlight that because
Starting point is 00:12:15 when you talk about social media influences and lots of people who refer to them, some of them really are because they're paid to promote, they want you to buy X-Maker brand or whatever, but actually you are creating this content to help people feel differently maybe about their emotions, their circumstances, or maybe just have a bit of a laugh, that's fine. So it's really different how people should or shouldn't use social media as well, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Absolutely. I think I don't, I have friends that go by influencer as their job title. But personally, I don't think I've got a good relationship with the word because I feel like when you influence something, you're in control of something. So like the word influences that under the influence of, you know, it's just kind of, it sounds like a controlling word. and I would hate to be that. I would hate to feel like I've got to have an influence on someone and push something down the throat that they don't want, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:23 But then at the same time, the way that content creators and influencers make their money is by working with brands. But I always try my best to make sure that if I am working with a brand, it's authentic, it's a brand that I love. So you're in control, aren't you? Exactly of what I'm promoting. wouldn't just take anything and be like, yeah, have this take this because I want money, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:49 So yeah, it's interesting. I go buy content creator because that's what I do. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that is so important because, you know, it is quite a responsibility. I mean, I set up my social media a few years ago and it was really because I was listening to, and I still do every day, stories of women who are really struggling. My oldest daughter is very artistic and I used to come home and say, gosh, I've just seen this
Starting point is 00:14:14 lady who said, I feel like I've been hit by a bus. My emotions are so dreadful. You know, the shutters have come down. I can't think anymore. And she said, right, put a picture of a bus on. Put a picture of shutters on. Put that quote on. Let other people know how others are feeling. And I was like, I don't even know what Instagram is, Jessica. What do I do? So she like set up my account. Oh, all of us. She said every morning when you wake up, just post something. And so I started doing that a few years ago. And it's just grown and grown and grown very, very organically. And it's been really interesting to see, you know, the content that blows up more, the content that doesn't, but people still comment and they still learn from it. But it is a real responsibility and
Starting point is 00:14:55 it's an extra layer when you're a doctor because obviously there's the general medical council have a social media conduct, you know, conduct. You have to really, you know, make sure that you're doing it in the best way and evidence-based way and everything else, which is so important. And there are times where I just think, oh gosh, I don't know that I can do this or like you say, oh, I feel more tired. I don't really want to be putting out and doing. But actually it is so powerful to be able to reach people. And I remember the first time I got a DM from somebody who's broad.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And I remember very clearly she was Canadian, 23 years old. And she said, I've just read your content. I'm in the bathroom crying because it resonated with me. This is me and I haven't been listened to. I didn't realize young people could be menopause or two. And I thought, gosh, actually, wow, it's not just UK, it's broad, it's different people, different time zones. And actually, how wonderful to have a platform where you can reach people in a way. And, you know, not really influence, but change their lives and change their outlook.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And, you know, like you, I'm a very, well, I'm a person that really believes very strongly in women empowerment and choice and enabling people to decide what's right for them. So even as a doctor, I feel like I'm an advocate for people. Absolutely. I'm not going to tell people. Yeah, just a conversation starter. Yeah. And that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And the best, you know, the best way to help people is to have conversations and be open about it. Yeah, for sure. Rather than having one thing that will solve one thing, no, that's not. There's no way in life that one thing will be right for every single person. So I think it's great that you have them conversations and you talk about it. it and because it makes everybody feel safe and included it's very inclusive because not every single person every single woman is different you know well so yeah and people want different things and I remember doing a podcast a while
Starting point is 00:16:58 ago with James Smith who's a massive PTEs brilliant and he was he gets some negativity like anybody and I said to him Jay's how do you do and he said well that's fine these people can just unfollow me they don't have to they can choose and I thought actually what a great way of thinking about it. We do that with friends all the time. We do it with relationships and it's exactly the same. So I think I've really learned that you don't have to please everybody. You can't, can't, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Like, we're not going to be everyone's cup of tea or coffee, you know. So, like, they can put sugar in it or they can go. It's up to them, you know. But it's, it's, what's important is the people that do appreciate what, like, you, or I do, you know, it's going to have a really good impact on them and that's what's, that's what's important. Yeah. And one of the things that some people, especially with medical information, there's always
Starting point is 00:17:55 these things that's every so often blow up, especially actually about contraception or hormones that people who are non-medical have put out, especially on TikTok and people are saying, oh gosh, oh gosh. But then actually my children learn a lot of medical information through TICTHA. TikTok, often through people who aren't health care professionals. But sometimes it's not all bad because it starts the conversation. And what's always difficult is that often people only put negative experiences on. So you won't say, oh, I feel so great because I've taken this hormone or I've done this or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It's usually the negative. So then you'll get quite skewed information. But what I'm hearing more and more from younger people is they're so confused about contraception, about hormones, about what to do. And I don't know if that's anything that's on your radio at all. Absolutely. So I'm 27 and I'm still, I still don't know everything that I probably should, you know. And from a young age, so I had really irregular periods when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And I really, really struggled with cramps and PMS, I think. Well, you know. I don't know my body enough. And it's a shame. because I showed you. And it's not talked about enough. So this is why I love what you do because you make it a talking point
Starting point is 00:19:18 and I'm sure I can learn a lot from you in that sense. But so I just went on contraceptive, contraceptive from a very early age because my periods were irregular. I didn't understand why. I was in so much pain. I was throwing up, you know. It got really, really bad. So they just shoved me on the pill
Starting point is 00:19:42 and I was on that for for years and I was just, still to this day, I don't understand why, but I was just moody down, you know, and then still to this day I'm on the implant, you know, and I've never given myself that chance to explore what my body's doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And do you feel different on the implant to how you wear on the contraceptive pill? I'm more numb, I would say. I would feel like when I was on the pill, I was very like impulsively argumentative. It might have been my teenage years, you know, but I was very high, very low, very all over the place. Whereas on the implant, I'm just kind of one level.
Starting point is 00:20:32 But as I'm getting older and I want to start thinking about potentially having children and stuff, I'm just thinking my body has been on this synthetic, like you said before this, synthetic contraceptive hormone. I don't actually know what it's doing to me. And did anyone explain to you how the implant works? I know that it's... See, this is interesting, no.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And I was a secondary school teacher. So just to be clear, you've got this device in your arm that someone's put in... And it's just in that place, but it goes through my body, doesn't it? Well, obviously. So you've allowed to... someone to put something in just to risk clear yeah so they've and how long does it
Starting point is 00:21:13 it's doing for three years so you put something in for three years yeah you don't really know what it is no because they don't tell this is all it's awful isn't it oh god I'm about in myself now um it's awful it's just because it's the norm yeah and because everybody does it yeah yeah you just you know my man was on it so I was like okay I'll do my mom sorry I should say just in case I'm like man my man my mum was on it and I was just like, okay, I'll just do it without actually So if I tell you that it contains a hormone, of course you know that, it contains a synthetic hormone that's being chemically altered.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So what it does is it switches off your natural hormone, so it switches off your eustodial progesterone and testosterone in your body. That's crazy, I didn't, which is crazy to me, I'm not a 27-year-old woman, I should know this. So it obviously stops you producing an egg, therefore stops you being pregnant. Yes. That's lovely. But it switches off all your hormones in your brain, in your body, in your heart system, in your skin.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Every single cell in your body has receptors that responds to these hormones and you don't have those hormones in your body. To the doctor, the doctor's never, ever told me any of that. And if I were to know that, I mean, I'm afraid woman. I should have educated myself. But they didn't tell me that. No. They just said, oh, your periods will start.
Starting point is 00:22:38 you know, they'll stop your egg from, you know. Yeah, precisely. So it's, again, it's a bit of, let's control women by whether they're going to get pregnant or not, without thinking about, let's think about the women's brain and body. And I certainly see a lot of women who have implants who then have quite dry, itchy skin, they have recurrent eunery tract infections, they feel quite low in their mood. Yes, yes, yes, sounds very much like me, to be honest. Because basically it's giving you a menopause.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Interesting. Wow. Wow. Well, there you go. I learned some of it. I should know it. I just, it's sad. It's sad that, you know, I know there'll be so many people listening to this.
Starting point is 00:23:19 My age, older, younger, don't know that because they just don't feel like. No. And to be fair, I feel a bit mean because I sort of always making fun of you, but I didn't think about it the same way. I've never given implants as a doctor because when they came out, I knew more about hormones. it didn't feel right almost. And when was that? They've been probably 15 years or so,
Starting point is 00:23:43 quite a long time they've been around, but before that and even now, there's still something called Depropervira, which is an injection. So it's an injection of contraception that lasts 11, 12 weeks. And I used to give it loads. And I feel really bad looking back
Starting point is 00:23:54 because we used to give it a lot to stop periods. Yes, especially for people who were disabled, had physical disability, because as you know, if you're having a heavy period and you can't walk, it's the last thing you want. So we used to give it a lot to people with different disabilities, people with heavy periods. And then I'm thinking, what was I doing in giving this injection? Again, injecting a synthetic progestogen that blocked the natural hormones,
Starting point is 00:24:18 then these women would come back, feel quite low in their mood, then they'd been given antidepressants. That's what I've done. I haven't really spoken. It was actually the first time I spoke about that on social media was three days ago on my life, which is interesting. But I've been on antidepressants for. for, which probably people wouldn't think, for six years, yeah. And it's only recently that I've thought I need to start coming off them.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And like I said before, as I'm getting older and thinking about what I want with, if I want children, et cetera, I'm just thinking about all the different things that are going on in my body and what I'm putting in. And this couldn't have come at a better time. Well, the synthetic hormones, they, they've done scans of people who have synthetic hormones like contraception and looking at the brain activity and there's serotonin, you know, our happy hormone in our brain, and levels of serotonin reduce in people
Starting point is 00:25:17 who have synthetic hormones. Wow, okay. And so it's no surprise that a lot of people then have antidepressants to try and help that. But we know our hormones, so estradiol, progesterone, testosterone, work closely with serotonin and dopamine, our reward hormone, you know, that enjoyment, pleasure hormone that people have.
Starting point is 00:25:37 So if you've got low estradile, low progesterone, testosterone, which you will have because you've got the implants, it can reduce your dopamine and serotonin. So a lot of people say they don't have so much joy and pleasure in things. They're just sort of existing a bit sort of... I kind of do...
Starting point is 00:25:55 I go off. It's hard to explain. When you say that you have difficulty in joy and stuff like that, I still... I would say I still feel it, but I don't feel it. Yeah, yeah, totally. Like, I still enjoy, like I said before, like a coffee outside.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I know that I love that. Yeah. It's not necessarily a first time feeling, feeling, if that makes sense. Like, when I used to do it, which I haven't actually really thought about, I would feel like a sense of, oh, I love this. But now it's like, I know I love this, so I'm going to do this. which is interesting because it's so it could be that then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It's all quite sort of subtle. And I've learned a lot through my clinical practice. Obviously, we give a loss of natural hormones, which are exactly the same structure as the own hormones that we have ourselves. And certainly with some hormones like testosterone, for example, people just have this sort of, they just feel generally happier. You know that, I know it sounds a bit trivial, but you know when you've got to unload the washing machine and you're like, oh, I can't be bothered.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Whereas when you're feeling well, you're like, oh, I'll just do it. it quickly because it will take two seconds then I'll do something else that's a bit more enjoyable. And that's often the difference that something like testosterone can have. Progesterone is quite a calming hormone. So you know that sort of, oh, I'm quite tired. I'm going to like do a little bit of meditation and go to sleep very easily. Or oh my gosh, I'm really stressed because tomorrow I've got a big day and I'm not going to have to sleep and da-da-da-da. That's the difference with progesterone and not with progesterone. And estrogen often like gives people just a bit more sort of positivity, a bit more energy, a bit more focus.
Starting point is 00:27:37 These three hormones work in balance really well together. And that's when it's really difficult and people don't have them. Yeah. So you still function, but it's just very different. Different. And it's so interesting that you, because you are explaining me
Starting point is 00:27:52 and I've never thought about it. And now I'm going down an ADHD diagnosis route. Right. Maybe it's just what the implant, you know, it's really got me questioning. my own body and I've never thought of it I've never thought that the implant would have that effect on me because I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And this is the whole thing, isn't it? It's knowledge is power and then making choices. And, you know, again, we see lots of women with ADHD. It's either newly diagnosed or worsened because their hormones have started to fluctuate. And a lot of, not just me and my practice, but others abroad as well. I'm doing some work with people in Sweden
Starting point is 00:28:34 and Australia, who are ADHD specialists, and they're noticing that testosterone, as well as the other hormones, but especially testosterone, really helps with the changes in ADHD and really improves it. And we know a lot of people are being medicalised with the wrong medication.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Lions men, I've heard a lot about that. Yeah, but in medicine, you always want to treat the underlying cause. Do you know what I mean? So, you know, if you've dislocated your knee, you're not just going to put a sticking plaster on and give you some painkillers, you're actually going to try and repair it. And that's the difference with this.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So often with the work we do in the clinic, we'll say, well, let's rebalance your hormones in a natural way and then let's see what else is going on. Because obviously, like, for example, ADHD, looking at exercise, looking at nutrition, looking at everything else is so important. It's not just taking hormones. But what happens so often, especially with women, is that we'll say, do your exercise, change what you eat, and then forget the hormone bits.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yes. And so then you'll try it really hard that you have been. But actually if you haven't got those hormones, you can't eat them, you can't make them. I need to get into your clinic. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:29:50 You probably weren't expecting all of this. No, I was not. I really, really wasn't. No. And honestly, I'm so glad that we brought it up because I feel like this is going to help a lot of my audience too because... That's really important.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And it will be very interesting going forward seeing how much of this conversation will start because certainly ADHD hormones, synthetic hormones, contraception is something that people really want to know more. And there's so much confusion out there as well. So having that conversation is going to be really important going forward. Yeah. I'm going to take it out there. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing like what direction you take going forward as well with your work and everything. Yeah. I'm coming off this.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yes. I'm taking it out. I am. I've been thinking about it for a while because I've been thinking about what it's doing to me. I don't know what it's doing. But this has kind of solidified my choice,
Starting point is 00:30:44 my decision, definitely, I think. And then because I want to see a change, I want to see what I'm like without that, you know. I think the other thing with hormones is everything's a choice and everything's reversible. So some people, you know, they have natural hormones,
Starting point is 00:30:59 they feel better, wonderful. Some people, they might, say, well, no, you know what, I felt better when I was taking this contraception or that, that's fine as well. And that's the same with anything is just literally about being able to choose. But if you don't have that knowledge, you can't make choices. No, absolutely. And that's where, you know, the work that you're doing that I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:31:18 just allowing people to think differently, even if it's thinking differently so you feel happy because you're listening to the dad jokes or you're just watching whatever time, you know. I'll be joking about this, boy, yeah. So no, it's great and it's really great talking about everything. So just to wrap things up, I always ask for three take-home tips. Oh, well, there you go. So there's a lot to think about. But I'm really keen to ask three things that you think women should do
Starting point is 00:31:48 to be in control of the knowledge that they want. So what are the three things that you think are good for people to do? Open, be open to conversations. narrow-minded. One solution doesn't fit all. Yeah. I guess. I would say also as well, sorry, just going off on a tangent, well, not a tangent,
Starting point is 00:32:14 but I would say get checked more. I think I touched on this on my page before. I struggled with my homocysteine levels and I didn't know anything about them until I did. and I ended up having a blood clot in my eye and just woke up blind wonder, which was crazy. But I didn't look at myself enough. I didn't know. I didn't get checked.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I didn't get my blood's checked for years and years and years. So I think it's important to be aware of what's going on in your body, which sounds quite hypocritical from everything that I've just said. Be aware. Good one. Be confident in asking questions. Yes. And getting it wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah. Because today I've got things wrong. And I feel more empowered getting it wrong. Because now I know. Yeah. I think that's so important. And, you know, learning by your mistakes, learning by negativity as we start to the podcast,
Starting point is 00:33:19 you know, learning from anything that's not gone well, you can only improve. So, and, you know, just not always believing everybody, the first time they tell you something and being questionable is really good, isn't it? Definitely, definitely conversations are important. Knowledge is power like you said. Oh, well, thanks for joining me today.
Starting point is 00:33:40 It's been great. Thank you for having me. I've had a lovely time. Thank you. Subscribe to my newsletter for exclusive insights and updates on new episodes.

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