The Dr Louise Newson Podcast - 104 – Hormonal acne, hair loss & ageing skin with Dr Saj Rajpar
Episode Date: October 1, 2026Consultant dermatologist Dr Saj Rajpar, making his fifth visit to the podcast, joins Louise to explain why acne, hair loss and ageing skin are so often driven by hormones rather than skincare.Saj runs... Midland Skin in Birmingham and has worked alongside Louise for years, since a shared patient's hair loss first brought them together. That collaboration runs through this conversation, from hormonal acne that flares before every period to a patient whose acne returned after switching from bioidentical progesterone to the Mirena coil.They also discuss why "dermatologist" isn't a protected title and what to check before booking high-street laser treatments, how the contraceptive pill and synthetic progestogens can block oestrogen's benefits for skin, and why dramatic skin ageing can be a sign of unaddressed menopause rather than normal ageing.Louise closes, as always, with three take-home tips — this time on why the skin matters more than you'd think.Let’s connect👉 Track your symptoms andunderstand hormones, download the Balance app: https://bit.ly/4yZty5A👉 More from Dr LouiseNewson: https://linkin.bio/drlouisenewson👉 Follow Saj:@dr.rajpar_dermatologist
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So today on the podcast, I'm very excited to reintroduce to you, Dr. Saj Rajpaw, who is the most amazing dermatologist, skin specialist, extraordinaire, who I know very well, but respect a lot as well. So we talk a lot about skin. What the skin is, what it does for us, what hormones in the skin do when hormone levels are changing. And also about Saj is rather unique clinical practice as well. So listen, share, enjoy.
Welcome, Saj, to the podcast.
I think you're my most frequent guest, actually.
I think you've just topped a couple others
because I think this might be your fifth time even.
Well, that's a fantastic statistic
and it's a real pleasure to be invited back.
It's always lovely to speak to you
and actually learn from you during our podcast.
Well, do you know what?
We've learned a lot from each other over the years
and it's probably been about six or seven years maybe that we've known each other.
And let's go back to how we met really,
because for those listeners that don't know,
Sajj is a dermatologist, works and runs, Midland Skin in Birmingham.
And you wrote me a letter about one of our patients.
We had a mutual patient who had hair loss.
And I've been very used to getting letters from other specialists that are just one-liners
and they say all these weird and wonderful treatments that may or may not work.
with nothing else, whereas your letter was incredibly detailed with all the different investigations
you'd done, all the ways to try and exclude other medical causes. And you were also sort of really
keen to have a dialogue about the role of hormones and hair loss. And I think I might have
emailed you or phoned you, and now we've got this lovely relationship. But I think that's right,
isn't it? Yeah, it's absolutely brilliant that a patient brought us together. And we are here to
serve our patients and you know we just wanted to get that person the best possible outcome
from medical treatment. Yeah. And yeah, it was great because we connected and we exchanged
ideas and this patient was experiencing hair loss. And it was trying to connect the dots
as to what a massive impact this patient's perimenopause was having on her hair loss and how
eventually optimizing her hormones was one of the cornerstones in treating her hair loss.
And had we not done that, and had you not done that, in fact, we would not have got the outcomes
from the rest of her hair treatments that we did.
And because it was that collaborative care and it was understanding that, you know,
it's not just one solution.
There could be more than one thing going on.
You've got to address that.
You've got to identify it.
You know, that's good medicine, isn't it?
it's kind of work out. Well, it's really, it's really important to really be holistic in,
in our care, whatever strand of medicine we do. But you're a dermatologist. So for those people that
don't know what dermatology is, can you just explain what it means being a dermatologist?
Yeah, it means a lot of things, actually. To me, to me, it means somebody who has a medical degree,
who's medically qualified and has specialized in the diet.
diagnosis and treatment of disorders and conditions affecting the skin, hair and nails.
And those treatments might be medical treatments, they might be surgical treatments or they
might be procedural treatments with devices such as lasers that we use for medical indications.
And a dermatologist may treat adults and may treat children as well.
Yeah. It's really interesting because this is what's really important. Well, there's lots of important things, but dermatologists are medical doctors. So you've had the same medical training as me. And you also usually dermatologists have done different medical specialties before going into dermatology. So a lot of people have done other areas of medicine, haven't they?
Yeah. So it's really important to have your foundation in medical practice.
but also expose yourself to various other specialties
because the skin does not function in isolation.
And if you're not aware, and the same with you, Louise,
you've done jobs across several medical specialties
in I know cardiology and cancer medicine and so many others.
And it's really important to get that grounding
because things come through the door
that if you can't rely on your basic medical knowledge,
you'll never pick up because the skin is the external visualisation
of many internal problems.
You can see, you know, things like hormone deficiencies
like menopause and perimenopals in the skin,
but you might see thyroid hormone deficiency in the skin.
You might see cortisol deficiency first on the skin.
You might see iron deficiency on the skin.
You might see diabetes on the skin, you know, for the first time.
So there are a lot of systemic conditions that present on the skin.
And the other thing is that dermatology has become more and more complex.
The medications available in dermatology have become more and more sophisticated.
And you cannot deliver those medications if you don't have an understanding of physiology, the kidneys, the liver, the blood system and how all those things interact,
especially if somebody's got other comorbidities.
That means they've got other conditions or other medications that they're taking.
And that transcends across all aspects of dermatology.
really even procedural dermatology, you've really got to understand how you might treat something.
You know, I might see somebody with skin lesions because they're in, they've had a kidney transplant
and they're on a medication from that kidney transplant that's causing those skin lesions.
And I might need to have knowledge and oversight of that in order to best treat them.
So, you know, everything works together.
And that's really crucially important because, you know, medicines become even more siloed than it was.
I mean, I'm older than you, but when we were training,
We did a lot of, even as undergraduates, we saw a lot of specialties.
We were constantly exposed to different specialties.
And then when we were doing our exams to be a member of the Royal College of Physicians,
we did lots of different specialties.
And when we were on call, we'd see anybody that would walk in or be structured in.
So we weren't selected from what we saw.
So you had to join the dots a lot more.
So if someone was in liver failure and their skin was yellow and they had bruising on their skin.
That was spontaneous. Then you think about alcohol, you'll think about the sporesis.
So you're constantly got these differential diagnosis going on.
But sometimes in medicine, and the two specialties that I deal a lot with, which frustrate me a lot, are gynecologists and psychiatrists, because gynecologists seem to think they own hormones because they come from the ovaries, but they also come from the brain and other tissues.
But gynecologists go straight into gynecology. They don't have the beauty of being able to have all these other postgraduate experience.
that we have as junior doctors. The same with psychiatrists who obviously mental health is the
commonest sort of one of the commonest symptoms of hormonal change are mental health symptoms.
And psychiatrists tend to go straight into psychiatry training. So they become very siloed very quickly.
Whereas I think people forget with dermatology that you are often using the skin as a window into the
body because the skin is an organ, it's not just a protective layer. And it's certainly not just
how our face looks because I was talking to my husband recently and we were saying it's really
hard now to see how old people are because they all have cosmetic treatments. Very few people
have lines anymore and it's really difficult to know. Is this person a dodgy looking 60 or
old or are they really 30? You know, it's really hard. But when you look at their whole body,
obviously you know a lot more, but dermatology has to always look at the bigger picture
and think about the organs and what else is going on, don't you?
Absolutely, absolutely.
You've got to, as you said, connect the dots and say, take something as simple as itch.
You know, the cause of itch, there's a list as long as my arm.
And if you're not familiar with the, you know,
know, the body, the physiology of the body, how to investigate different aspects and different
organ systems, you may miss potentially important causes. And, you know, common causes of itch
might be skin disorders like eczema and psoriasis and hives and urticaria. But internal conditions
like iron deficiency, thyroid disorders, and even cancers, some lymphomas. And in fact, in my career,
I've diagnosed one young person with lymphoma
who actually presented with itch.
When an 18-year-old comes in and is itching all over
for no particular reason and has never had any skin history,
you've got to put your diagnostic hat on and say,
well, this is rather odd, you know, what's going on here.
And this person had been through several doctors,
had treatments for exma and scabies,
which is the obvious typical thing that everybody
jumps to but when you take a history and you say oh well you've got night sweats you're not you know
feeling great and then you examine them and you check other parts of their body you check their lymph glands
you check their liver you know that's what we're you know what we're trained to aren't we were
trained as diagnosticians we don't we don't have a scan in our room we don't have you know
blood test machines in our room we've just got our eyes and our hands and our ears and we've just
got to kind of put it all together. And, you know, it's very similar to what you're doing. You're,
seeing patients and women with multiple symptoms and you're trying to figure out, you know,
where are these symptoms coming from? Yeah, it's totally true. And I've written quite a lot
about it in my book, The Power of Hormones, is that we have to listen to our patients. And,
you know, I'm the same as you. We didn't have training about menopause hormones when we
were undergraduates or even, you know, when we were junior doctors, which is very frustrating. And I
think back to a lot of my patients I saw in general practice who did come in with itchy skin.
And a lot of them were women. And I did all the usual checks, make sure their liver, their kidneys
were fine, they didn't have iron deficiency, their thyroid was fine. And I never once thought about
their hormones. And now my work is obviously not just menopause either. So I see a lot of women with
PMDD, premencel dysphoric disorder, PMS, premenstrual syndrome. But also increasingly with seeing a lot
more people in my clinic with postnatal depression. And I see a lot of women who've had postnatal
psychosis as well. And one of the things that we always do, as you know, with every patient is we
give them the symptom questionnaire, which is the same as the one on balance app. And it asks all sorts
of symptoms, including there's a whole section on skin. So dry skin, itchy skin, acne, any skin changes.
And usually, not always, but usually people with PMS, PMDD, postnatal mental health,
if you ask them specifically those questions, they will say they have skin changes before their periods.
But if you're not joining the dots and I never used to, I would be concentrating on the symptoms the woman was complaining of
because it's so accepted that it's just a hormonal change of skin.
But actually, it's the body again saying something internally is out of balance.
And it's the hormones.
And it's really important.
Do you see that much in your clinic where people have skin changes throughout the cycle?
This is so interesting to me because we see a huge number of women with hormonal acne.
And, you know, it is so common for women to come in through, you know, their adult life to us saying, you know, ever since I was 11 or 12, you know, in the week,
just before my period, my skin completely changes.
You know, it'll go greasier or drier.
I'll have more bumps and texture.
Usually that means comodones and I'll break out,
typically along the chin and the jawline,
but anywhere, you know, anywhere on the face,
the neck and the back.
And it is, you know, a reason for which many women struggle
because it's something that just does not always easily come under control.
Many women will have tried synthetic combined hormones.
Yes.
You know, and this is so typical, they'll come in and say, you know,
I'd say about 50 to 60 percent of women will say it didn't work for me
or it made my skin worse.
That's combined contraception.
And then many others will say, look, yeah, it helped my skin,
but my God, my mood, my weight, you know, all these,
And I just don't want to, you know, I really don't want to go back on that.
Can you help?
So, and the other sort of time that we see this issue with acne is in the perimenopause.
It's very similar.
And often these, the same women will say, you know, I've only just had five or six good years with my skin.
And now it started all over again.
And the first thing I do is I say, and I would never have done this, do is had I not met you or understood or learned and come to your conferences.
and courses and done the online course myself,
first thing I ask is what's happening with your hormones?
And it's kind of like the penny then drops and they're like,
well, actually, nobody's asked me, but, you know, this is happening, that's happening.
And it's like, you know, before I give you another acne cream or another, you know, acne
directed treatment, let's talk about optimizing your hormones.
And, you know, can you go and seek help on that?
Get your hormones figured and then come back to me and then we'll pick up where we've left, you know, where you're at then.
And it's been a game changer and I really would encourage all my colleagues, you know, who are seeing skiing,
to try and think critically about, you know, what's going on in that person in their hormonal situation.
It's so important.
And I worry a lot about every woman, but I worry a lot especially about younger children, girls, young adults who have.
these skin changes and sadly I used to do it as an uneducated GP I used to prescribe the
contraceptive pill because I thought it was skin friendly and some of them are marketed as being
skin friendly and they like you say they might help but then in medicine we have to think about
the root cause and what we're doing so synthetic hormonal contraceptions do not contain hormones
they contain substances that block hormones and even a very commonly prescribed progestic
progestogen, synthetic progesterone
called mojoxyprogesterone acetate,
actually works as an aromatase
inhibitor, so it blocks the action
of eustodial on the skin
in the brain and every other organ
in the body. So I'm sure you've
seen people who have the depot-provera injection
and their skin completely
breaks out. And I always
when I was younger thought, oh
progesterone's bad for the skin, because
it's called mojoxy progesterone, so you think
it's got progesterone in it.
If you look at the chemical structure, it's not
progesterone at all. It's a synthetic chemical.
And then when you read it, I mean, there's a great article from the 80s and 90s showing how it
blocks the action of eustodial. We know eustodial, which is a good anti-inflammatory form of
estrogen, is very beneficial on the skin, it helps build collagen, it helps the blood flow to the
skin, it helps the skin texture, everything. So it's such a shame that people are blaming hormones
when the right bioidentical hormone can be transformational.
Yeah.
Well, this is really interesting because it was just the other week
where I saw one of my patients with acne
who's been stable for years on treatment
and her acne destabilized.
It's a lady in her late 40s, early 50s.
She'd had perimenopause and menopause about seven years ago.
So she was already on hormone,
replacement at this point, very stable.
And her acne broke out.
And we were trying to figure out what has changed.
And she was asked to switch from her oral, bioidentical progesterone to the marina coil.
Yeah.
So that's all that had happened.
And nobody thought anything of it.
This had, you know, been going on for, her acne flare had been going on for at least nine months.
And we were just trying to backtrack on what could it have been.
when, you know, this person was so beautifully controlled.
And I mean going from very severe lifelong chronic acne to brilliant control.
And it was that.
And it was such an eye-opener because it's marketed as something that is local.
You know, there's not going to be any systemic spread.
You're not going to have any side effects anywhere.
Well, that's not true.
Well, I've seen it a lot.
And it's very interesting because I used to tell patients again that Marina Kohl only works locally in the womb.
But let's think about it.
Our womb is very vascular.
It's got lots of blood vessels in it.
The blood vessels connect with every other blood vessel in the body and brain.
So there's not a teflon sheet around the womb.
So of course this synthetic progestogen, it's a low dose,
but for some women are very sensitive,
are going to have this effect.
And I see people who have severe mental health problems with Marina,
but also skin changes as well.
And we have to be thinking about the difference between the natural bioidentical
and the synthetic hormones all the time.
And patients sometimes don't know the difference.
And they'll tell you they're on a progesterone and they're often not.
But I'm going to ask you something that I know last the podcast we got lots of views about
about using topical hormone preparation.
So these are vaginal hormone preparation.
So I'm not talking about systemic ester gel,
but some of the eustrial eustodial gels and creams,
quite a few people use them on their faces intermittently.
And there is small data to show.
it will help. But there's logical data.
Like, anything that I put in my vagina or on my vulva is going to help the blood flow.
It's going to help circulation. It's going to help the tissues.
We know that, you know, it's very repairing these things.
And what I wondering, and I don't know the answer here, and I don't think you will,
what if someone used a low-dose vaginal, Easterdial, or Eastrial cream or gel preparation
on their acne, on their face?
Like, it might have an effect, isn't it? We don't know.
do you know that's potentially a very interesting idea to look at?
Because recently a topical preparation has been licensed in the UK that blocks testosterone.
Now, you know, that might not actually be the reason why somebody's breaking out.
It might be because of the exposure to estrogen has dropped, leaving whatever the balance
between estrogen testosterone, you know.
And so what we're doing now is,
we're saying, oh, right, let's drop your testosterone.
What we haven't understood is actually the primary reason was the estrogen and progester
had dropped, and that's why you're getting your pair, you know, the flare in the week before
your period.
So can you put the estrogen back topically rather than block the testosterone topically?
And it's a bit like, yeah, it has merit, doesn't it?
So women with MOS, which used to be PCOS, everyone's always blamed the testosterone, whereas in
fact, and I've done a YouTube about it, people with PMOS often have low Easterdial and low
progesterone. So relatively speaking, their testosterone is higher than their other two hormones.
We always used to block the testosterone and a lot of people still do with people with PMOS,
and those people often feel dreadful. But in our clinic, we often give them systemic
estrogen and progesterone, and they feel amazing. And their skin improves because they're having
systemic hormones, their mental health improves, they have more regular periods,
if we give them the right dose and type of progesterone.
So we know systemic hormones work,
and there are some people that do use low-dose Easterdale,
but also low-dose progesterone cream topically on their skin.
But people seem really scared of that.
I don't have a problem with it at all,
because sometimes in medicine you try something
with a logical reason and then you have a review.
One of my sort of reservations is we shouldn't just be looking at the face.
And I worry if we only are putting something on our feet,
face. If it's PMOS, which is a metabolic problem, we need those hormones systemically because
Easterdine and progesterone are very good, as you know, for insulin resistance and metabolism and so
forth. But I think we should do a study. I think we should look at this more because actually
there's a lot of preparations that girls, women are spending fortunes on, including my children
over the years have done. And if a low dose Easterdial was going to help a little bit, they would
love it rather than going for Roacutane or something else.
So it's something to think about, isn't it?
And absolutely. It's something that also would be a treatment that could work in the medium to long term,
whereas a lot of the acne treatments that exist may not have, you know, durable results.
In other words, you know, rachetane doesn't always clear somebody's skin and their skin doesn't always stay clear.
So you do need to have something else.
And if it is a hormonal basis to somebody's acne, then looking at the hormones.
and, you know, it's a fantastic idea, Louise, and this is how treatment of conditions will move forward, isn't it?
Well, it's interesting, and I constantly think, partly because I've got three daughters, and, you know, contraception is really difficult because every single hormonal contraception contains synthetic hormones.
We do have Zoli, which contains estradiol, but it contains a synthetic progesterone, and often I will add back natural bioidentical progesterone to people who have.
only as well, but sometimes they still have breakouts in their skin. And so it's just something
to think about. But there are so many different treatments. And one of the things I worry about
with dermatology, not with you, I hasten to add, but I see that come up and on my Instagram and
they're often advertised in different, even shops and department stores now seem to have
dermatologists that do all these high end, very expensive treatments just for the skin. And
And often they involve lasers and injections and all sorts of treatments. Some of them look quite
painful. But I worry that it's just a skin-deep thing. It's just looking at an immediate
result. And I've been to your clinic several times, lots of my patients have, you have loads of lasers.
But I've never seen you do it just for a pure cosmetic. It's more than, I mean, you're always
analyzing the skin and you do a lot with melasma. We've done a podcast about that. And different
skin conditions. So tell me where these high-end treatments, if you like, because I can see the
appeal for some people, but I also, I'm really worried about how they're just, anybody can go and
have a bit of laser or something. So tell me the difference. Yeah, I think it's really interesting
that you point out that you're seeing these treatments being delivered in, on the high street and in
department stores now. And I just point out the fact that dermatologist as a title is a
not even protected. So that means anyone, whether they're medically qualified or not,
can call themselves a dermatologist. So you will hear the terms cosmetic dermatologists,
aesthetic dermatologist, laser dermatologist, all sorts of terms, and people trying to use
authority to sell treatments. And so I would encourage anyone,
one to first, you know, just know who they're being treated by and what their qualifications
are.
Lasers are interesting. I find them fascinating. I did my very first laser qualification in 2003.
It's 23 years ago before I even got my first job in dermatology, my first very junior
SHO job and I know at the interview they said, my God, you've done this B-tech in lasers,
not, you know, many of our registrars haven't done that. And I said, look, I really am fascinated by
the physics of lasers, but also how you can harness that energy and actually have positive
impact on the skin for medical concerns as well as aesthetic concerns. But there are a huge
list of medical concerns that lasers work for, like melasma, as you mentioned, or rosacea or
acne and really importantly scars, whether they're post-surgical scars or burn scars or
keloid scars. So there's a whole host of medical reasons why, you know, doctors like myself
use lasers. And lasers knowledge is getting better and better. And the machines are getting
better and better as well. So the outcomes are getting better and better. And there is definitely a role
for lasers in facial rejuvenation for the right candidate at the right time. And I think the key
thing here is making sure it's the right candidate. And I saw somebody, you know, week before last,
who came in for a heavy laser treatment consultation. And it turned out that her skin aging
happened in the five preceding years
and that was around the
menopause, quite dramatic,
quite dramatic skin aging, you know,
more profound than you see
on average. Now, we know we lose 30%
of college or women can lose 30% of collagen in the first
five years after menopause.
But this looked, you know,
very much 30% plus. And I thought,
gosh, this is, you know,
we know things are in a normal distribution,
aren't they in medicine?
And that, you know, most people are bang in the middle,
but there will always be some outliers.
And I thought, gosh, this is an outlier.
And the timing here does not fit with, you know,
general chronological aging with some menopausal changes
if their estrogen hasn't been corrected.
And really, so that person wanted laser, wanted a solution.
And I actually said, no, you know, you're not suitable.
This is not the right treatment for you.
You're not the right person for this.
Optimize your hormones.
And actually wrote a referral to you guys straight away, gave the detail.
And I said, go and, yeah, you know, that is your priority here.
And, you know, the sagging issue as well, facial sagging,
and the fact that women's faces change in a different way to men's faces around the menopause
where, you know, jaw bone, which is the lower facial bone,
mineral density goes down a lot quicker and therefore the skin sags more.
There's a lot of, you know, changes that are happening at that point.
And really, you can't necessarily just cover it all up with a laser.
a treatment or a surgical treatment. You really want to get to the root cause, as you mentioned.
Absolutely. And there's no harm at all for having rejuvenation, having treatments, but it's looking
at the underlying cause. And I think if there's one thing for people to learn from this podcast is if
you're seeing a dermatologist, don't look at the title, don't even get hoodwit by doctors,
because a lot of them might have only done one, two years as a doctor, as a medical doctor.
Look at their, ask for their CV, see what experience they have, and make sure that you're treated really,
holistically and and Saj and I relationship professionally is is very, very close because I need
help often with people with hair, skin, nail problems that only an expert dermatologist like him
can help. And he often needs help with our clinic, with a hormone balance. And the two together
can really transform people's lives and future health. So don't dismiss skin, but make sure you see
someone who's really experienced. So I'm very grateful for your time because we're recording this on a
Saturday morning and Sadge is a bit like me. He doesn't often switch off because he's constantly
working and helping people, which is what we went into medicine for. So before I end, though,
sad, I always ask for three take-home tips. So I'm going to ask you three reasons why the
skin is the most important organ in the body in your eyes. That's a good question, Louise. The skin
is the most important organ because if you look after it, it will treat you very, very well.
And it's very easy to look after. And that starts with looking after yourself, with your diet,
your lifestyle, you know, not smoking, sun exposure. Those things will pay dividends. And the third
one is what we touched upon before, which is the skin is a window to your body. And if there's
something that's not right with your skin, then getting it checked out can reveal and help you
with problems that you're experiencing in the body. Perfect. So what we're trying to say is don't
ignore the skin and make sure if you're treating the skin, you're looking internally as well
because as doctors, we need to be as holistic as possible and multi-system approach is always
going to help. So thank you again for your time, Sadd. And I don't think it's going to be the last
time that you're coming on to this podcast. So thank you.
Thanks, Louise. It's always a pleasure.
