The Dr Louise Newson Podcast - 99 – Gut health, hormones & food noise with Dominique Ludwig

Episode Date: September 8, 2026

Nutritionist Dominique Ludwig, author of No NonsenseNutrition, explains why your gut controls your hormones and hunger.Dominique trained at King's College and has spent 20 years in clinical practi...ce, working with around 4,500m people before writing the book that turns her clinic advice, and the recipes behind it, into something anyone can use at home.Louise and Dominique talk through how your liver and gut clear out old hormones, why the wrong gut bacteria can impact your hormones and how the Contraceptive Pill can block your absorption of B12, zinc and folate. They also unpick why protein and fibre switch on the body's own satiety hormones (the same pathway GLP-1 medications work on) and why so many of Dominique's clients describe the disappearance of "food noise" as life-changing.Follow Dominique: @dominiqueludwig_nutritionLet’s connect👉 Track your symptoms and understand hormones, download the Balance app: https://bit.ly/4yZty5A👉 More from Dr LouiseNewson: https://linkin.bio/drlouisenewson

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On my podcast today, I've got Dominic Ludvick who wrote the most amazing book, No Nonsense Nutrition. We talk about how food is medicine, how important it is for us to eat the right type and the right amount of food. You're going to learn a lot from this, so I hope you enjoy it. So you are lovely and relaxed because you've just come back from a great holiday in Greece. And I've got your book, in fact, it's a bit dirty because I use it quite a lot here on my lap. But I've been following you on Instagram for quite a long time. And I love it. No nonsense nutrition.
Starting point is 00:00:38 There's so much noise in people's head about nutrition. What to eat, what not to eat. As a doctor, I got no training about nutrition. But I am really interested because if I don't eat well, I get migraines. So it's a blessing and a curse having migraine. But I can't eat processed foods. I can't just go and buy something in a shop. I can't eat.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I don't have caffeine or anything. So have it, but the trick of eating is to feel full and stay full and to feel well. But people do realise that whole thing about medicine and food. You know, food is medicine. And it's so easy now, especially with the GLP ones, to just think, you don't have to bother with food. But you're just brilliant. So just tell me a bit about you, Dominique, and why you're so brilliant with what you do. So I've been a nutritionist for over 30 years.
Starting point is 00:01:30 King's College trained nutritionist. I thought I was going to go and work in the food industry after that, did that for a short amount of time and realized I wanted to get back into, I wanted to work in clinic. And so I retrained in nutritional therapy and I've done 20 years in clinical practice. Like you said, I've just written my first book, No Nonsense Nutrition. I run two global nutrition programs as well. And I think no nonsense nutrition was just something I've been wanting to write for a long time. It's wanting to put into words the things that I say day, in day out in clinics. I've worked with about four and a half thousand people, which means you get real-time answers to how things are working. And I just wanted to put all of that into a book, but I wanted to make the nutrition simple and fun to read. And then I wanted to put all the recipes in because all the science then is woven into the recipes. So if you do nothing else and you just choose the recipes, you're likely to feel better. But if you want to, you can dip into the nutrition advice at the beginning, which just gives you lots of practical tips of just how to put the food on your plate so that it's well proportioned, it's going to fill you up for longer,
Starting point is 00:02:36 it's going to nourish your body and make you feel well. Yeah, and it's interesting because when I was at medical school in the 80s, it was all about fat protein carbohydrates, but not what the different types were, nothing about all the other nutrients that we need. And now there's so much talk about protein, but people still are confused, aren't they? And, you know, I'm 55, and metabolism changes all the time. I look at what my children eat and, you know, I can't eat the same as them, but we eat differently. So I'm really keen to just have a bit of advice, really, as to how we can keep as healthy as possible with what we eat for as long as possible, because what we're trying to do now is invest in our future health as well,
Starting point is 00:03:19 isn't it? We want to be fit and active as we age. And I do think our generation or sort of, generation of people in their 40s and 50s are thinking ahead how to stay healthy in ways that perhaps people didn't before. But food is really important for that, isn't it? There's loads to unpacking what you've just said. So the first thing is when you think about food and you're thinking, yes, protein, carbohydrates and fats, obviously carbohydrates, it didn't use to matter. It didn't matter if you ate, or we didn't think it mattered if we were eating, you know, white rice compared to a whole grain carbohydrate like bulgar wheat. So we weren't really making that differentiation where it's all about quality and quantity,
Starting point is 00:04:00 how much of that carbohydrate you're going to eat and the quality of it, which then leads you on to what you've just said about. We were talking about the macronutrients and we forget about the micronutrients. I often say it's like a train that arrives at your station with all your nutrients. And first of all, you've got the big macronutrients. But the micronutrients are so important. All the vitamins and minerals. I describe them a bit like stardust in the body.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So they drive every single biochemical reaction that happens in. our body that makes us feel well from our brain chemistry to our liver detoxification to our energy metabolism. So the quality of our food is so important. And the more vitamins and minerals we're eating, and if you're thinking about hormones, we might be thinking about zinc, B6, magnesium that are helping with our own hormone balance where we need to make sure we're getting enough. So if we're eating a more processed diet that doesn't have as many nutrients, we're unlikely to feel as well. And I think the other thing that you're leading on to what you've just said is, you know, when we talk about protein, we didn't know how important it was.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I think it's the magic duo of protein and fiber. And I don't want, I don't like over-emphasizing one macronutrient over another. But what I see in clinic is if you focus on the protein and make sure you've got maybe a quarter of a plate of protein and then you add on half a plate of vegetables, that gives you around five grams of fiber and then some healthy whole grains, which might top you up by another five grams. If you're focusing on the fibre and the protein, you naturally start to balance the plate because you're eating the vegetables, the whole grains, the protein, then the healthy fats. It just works. So you start to feel better when you do that. So I think they're a dynamic duo.
Starting point is 00:05:37 They fill us up for longer, balance up blood sugars, they help with weight management. And I think that's really important. Yeah. I'm talking a bit more about the difference between bioidentical, sort of, you know, the natural hormone treatments that we prescribe and synthetic hormones, And I say hormones in inverted commas because they're not hormones. They're just chemicals made to look like hormones and behave like hormones, but they don't. So I was really a study from the 1980s the other day about women who take the contraceptive pill, which has all contained synthetic hormones, and how it blocks the absorption of B12 zinc, folate. And I was really shocked because no one taught me this at medical school.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So I was just thinking about all the millions of women globally who run synthetic contraceptives. And having more processed food than many of us ate many years ago. It's quite hard then for them to absorb even if they are eating those micronutrients. Is it something that's on your radar? It's on my radar. If I see someone on the contraceptive pill, I might ensure that getting enough zinc, magnesium, B6 and some of those nutrients. I think really if we're eating a really good whole food diet,
Starting point is 00:06:50 we should be able to cover our requirements and we should have a slight surplus, but you're exactly right. The problem is that it depends what we're eating if a quarter of our calories come from snack foods and that 75% of foods we snack on between meals are not particularly healthy, which means that a quarter of our diet
Starting point is 00:07:09 might not be as healthy as the food we put on our plate at meals, which is why I always put so much emphasis on three meals a day. So just put the food on your plate, have bigger meals with and add extra things, like some walnuts, some crumbled parmesan, some, you know, a dollop of hummus, whatever you're adding to your plate, add more to your plate because I think that will serve you better. You'll be less hungry between meals and you'll be getting more nutrients in your diet as a result. So I think it's an issue and I think also we become a bit blasé about our micronutrients and think that
Starting point is 00:07:43 everybody's just getting enough. And it's not that we have necessarily deficiencies, a deficiency diseases, we're not falling into that classification. We call it more suboptimal. For example, iodine or something like that. We've got a big rise in iodine insufficiency, particularly among teenage girls, which has been linked, we think, to a reduction in dairy and plant milks and things like that. So our food habits then change the amount of nutrients for getting as well. It's very interesting, isn't it? And even magnesium, there's a lot of people who are deficiencies or insufficient in magnesium, but you can't measure it as a blood test easily because it's in the cells that it's low
Starting point is 00:08:20 but even the way the plants are grown, the chemicals that are used in the soil, all of that makes the difference as well, doesn't it? So just going back to basics really, sourcing ingredients. A carrot is not a carrot. It's all very different, isn't it? It's quite hard to know when you're out and about you think you're buying an apple
Starting point is 00:08:43 and it's going to be healthy, but it varies so much, doesn't it, between supermarkets and farmers markets and everything else? I think just choose as local as you can. Flavour is a determinant of how the quality of food as well. So if you're going to get an apple that's been flown in from South Africa and taste like water, it may not be as good for you as one that you're going to pluck off a tree in your local area. So I think we can't get too worked up about that because we can't always control our environment. All we can do is do our best. And I think just by basing your diet around healthier whole foods, cooking from scratch where you can, and just trying to boost the amount of nutrients in our food, that's really all we can do. And I think that's always been my approach. It's always back to basics. And it doesn't have to mean fancy recipes and everything being difficult because most people are time poor. I think really it's about actually how you just arrange the food.
Starting point is 00:09:44 on your plate. So you can literally arrive at the fridge. And I do this most days. I arrive at the fridge at lunchtime with absolutely no clue of what I'm going to eat. But I just get out all the vegetables, whether it's red cabbage, red onions, some peppers, cucumber carrots, chop them up or grate them into a salad with a really nice olive oil salad dressing. Go find my protein. Maybe I've got a ball of mozzarella, a tin of mackerel, might be a salmon fillet, something like that. And so I've immediately got my protein on my plate. Add some extras. Add some cook lentils or some healthy whole grains and I'm kind of there so I've just made an instant meal but I haven't really had a plan or it's not a complicated recipe you can just make your food work with your
Starting point is 00:10:27 biology just by understanding how to put the food on your plate which is something we cover a lot in the book yeah so what's been your what's been the most popular recipes that's in the book I'm sure there's layers okay so what surprised me should I tell you a funny story when I when I was doing the food photography. The food, I was, I was obviously fretting over every recipe. And the food stylist said to me, oh, don't worry. You know, not many of the recipes in the books are cooked by people. She said, and so I think what she was saying was that, you know, lots of us have cookery books and maybe we only make one recipe. What I find astonishing with this book is how many people are coming up to the book signings with tabs all the way through the book. And people are right,
Starting point is 00:11:07 I've had hundreds of messages from people saying how many of the recipes they're cooking from the book and how they're just eat, had somebody today say that they've just been making recipes from my book and they've got Hashimoto's thyroid disease and that they said that their antibodies have normalized over three months. So this is the power of food. There's no, you can't make claims and it's different with every person but eating real natural food can have a positive effect on your health. But favorite recipes, I think Firecracker chicken seems to come up a lot. It's like a takeaway, but it's really healthy and it just uses the gene. use of one orange to sweeten it instead of, you know, lots of sugar. So that's been really popular.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I think the breakfast sprinkles is a fun one. And people really like that. It's all sorts of 10 different nuts and seeds. And then I've topped it with ptaya powder, which is dragon fruit powder. And it's really vibrant pink. So when you shake it up and put it in your yogurt, everything goes bright pink, which is really fun. And people really like that because they can make it up and just then eat it throughout the week. And they're getting loads of plant variety in there as well, which supports the gut microbes. Yeah, yeah. I was talking to something the other day, actually,
Starting point is 00:12:16 I went to the house and I'd already made this before. You know your seed and nut loaf? Yes. That must be really popular as well, wasn't it? Because it's so, I mean, I've just got it in the freezer. I cut it up and then put it in the freezer, so then I can just get a slice at a time because sometimes, when I'm always really busy,
Starting point is 00:12:34 but I cook a lot for the freezer because then I know that if there isn't anything in the fridge, I've always got something healthy in the freezer. And that's been brilliant because it's so easy to make as well. You don't have to need it. You don't have to prove it. You put it in the oven. It freezes really well.
Starting point is 00:12:49 You've got loads of plant diversity in there. And I think unlike, you know, regular supermarket bread, because it's so dense and nutrient dense. You can't eat much of it. You don't need very much. So lots of, it's really interesting. Even the sweet recipes, like there's some really nice salty caramel bars in there. If you compared them to a traditional chocolate bar, you know, we can just inhale
Starting point is 00:13:10 them and it doesn't really feel like we've eaten them. Whereas you only need a small amount. Another really popular recipe on the bread one is the red lentil bagels. They have been a really big hit as well and you think how can that possibly work? It just does and it's a really fun recipe that one. I think that's what's great
Starting point is 00:13:26 and obviously the way the pictures are brilliant but it just it's easy. There's not loads and loads of ingredients that you think you haven't got and it just it's the colour as well because it is that whole the more that we eat of the rainbow, the more colour.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That gives you more nutrients straight away, doesn't it? And everything's put on the plate. So the whole point of the book is that the pictures actually shows what you're going to eat. So rather than just giving you a recipe with some chicken breasts, where you've got to go and think, well, now what do I serve it with? What I've done is I've put the vegetables on there. I've put the healthy carbs on there. So everything you need is on the plate and everything balances.
Starting point is 00:14:07 So every single recipe in the book is balanced with around 3.000. 30 grams of protein, around 10 grams of fiber. And so if you were eating three meals a day, that would be around 30 grams of fiber a day. And if you're just eating from the book, you'll get well over 30 different plants a week. So I call it my triple 30 principles. So just by choosing those foods, you're likely to feel fuller for longer. Your attention should be better in the afternoon and focus. You should just feel better from one meal to the next, but it's tapping into your natural hunger and satiety mechanism.
Starting point is 00:14:37 So you're eating enough. Like I think you said at the beginning, lots of people don't eat enough food. And I see that a lot in clinic where when we hit midlife, there's this sort of invisible memo that goes out that says that everything that worked in your 20s and 30s doesn't really work so much. So we start to store more fat around the middle. We so are gaining weight. Our blood sugar regulation isn't quite as good. We're losing muscle mass. We're maybe not sleeping as well, which is making us hungrier the next day.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So lots of things start to happen and shift in our metabolism. and people as a result often start to exercise more and eat less. But when you start to put the principles in place of fibre and protein and the balanced plate, you're eating lots of food, but it's working with your biology. So it's increasing all of your satiety mechanisms. It's stretching your stomach to tell your brain that you're full. You're switching on the hunger hormones in your small intestine. You've got like mini laboratories in there that are scanning your food in real time.
Starting point is 00:15:35 and they're sending messages to the brain to say you're full. And then you've got those deep satiety hormones like GLP1, PYY, GIP, which then are there your long-term satiety. So when you're eating foods that are bulky and hard to break down, the residue of that food is switching on or is reaching the cells that produce those long-term satiety hormone. So that really keeps you going from one meal to the next. You're not feeling the need to snacks.
Starting point is 00:16:01 You're not feeling deprived. I hope you're enjoying today's episode. If you'd like to hear more conversations like this, then please follow us or subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you listen. By subscribing, you'll be the first to hear new episodes each week, featuring expert guests, the latest research and evidence-based discussions about hormones and the health of women. Thank you for listening and being part of this really important community. Most people now have heard of GL-1s but don't know that we make it ourselves.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And it's so much better if you can stimulate it yourself. You can, but it only lasts one to two minutes. So you're sort of relying on little bursts of GLP1, almost like a little sparkler going off. But it's only part of the picture. Because it is. It's not the only. So when we sometimes, when we're talking about food increasing our GLP1, it's not quite the same as the medications
Starting point is 00:17:06 which are going to stay in your system for a long time. but it's everything together. It's the bulk of our food and it's eating the fibre and the protein. We just need to switch on the whole cascade of satiety. And that can be transformational. I cannot tell you how many people have written to me to say that the food noise has gone and just how that has just changed their life because they're not thinking about food. They can walk past the biscuit.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's incredible, isn't it? I used to have a really sweet tooth. And when I was a junior doctor, I mean, it's impossible. It still is now to get good food in your call. And then, you know, there's always biscuits at the nurse's station and chocolates, whatever, that patient was given. And it was three in the morning and I'd have some, and then the more you have you. And my sugar levels must have just been up and down. It just must have been horrendous.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And for some reason then it didn't seem to trigger migraines. But, and then when you change your diet and you don't feel hungry, like if you even, if you offered me a donut, I wouldn't want it. Whereas if you offered me 20 years ago, 30 years ago, I would have gobbled it up and inhaled it. literally and never. But it takes a while to change that, but it's not like saying you can't eat it because then you would just be hungry and think about the donut all day long.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But if you're having different foods, it's just different. But somehow for women, I think we do think about food more than men for all sorts of reasons. But when we don't have our hormones or we have a hormonal imbalance, it can trigger, can't it, this craving for food,
Starting point is 00:18:34 which can be really difficult for people. So having the right, I mean, I'm always talking about hormones, and of course hormones can balance and help metabolism, they can help with insulin resistance. But it's often in conjunction with having the right food choices can be transformational. You know, our hormones are linked with what we eat as well, aren't they? So you've got, well, there's two, you've got the liver and you've got the gut. So your liver is how you get rid of old hormones. So when you've used the hormones, it goes to the liver, how well your liver's functioning is really important. certain foods can actually improve how our liver works.
Starting point is 00:19:09 So things like cruciferous vegetables are really important, like broccoli and cauliflower. And then what goes on in your gut is really important. And people don't always realize this. So first of all, we've got something called the Istra balone, which is like a sort of your, it's part of the microbiome that can affect how we process estrogen. Just having the wrong type of bacteria in your gut can actually affect how your estrogen is, your estrogen levels are and how much of it you're going to excrete. Yeah, and it's also the metabolites as well of hormones that need to be removed.
Starting point is 00:19:46 But our hormones also help improve our gut microbiome. And not just esterodial, but progesterone and testosterone has a really beneficial effect. And when our gut microbes are happy, it helps our mental health, doesn't it? It helps our metabolism and everything else as well. So just going through menopause can change the mind. microbiome when eustridge will fall. So you're right, we can have less diversity in the gut. But yes, how we eating more fibre has been shown in research to have a positive effect on things like depressive disorders. And they're still sort of trying to work out exactly why this happens,
Starting point is 00:20:22 but we're getting closer, I think, to it. We make a lot of serotonin in our gut. So 90% of the serotonin we make is in the gut. There's other mechanisms in play that are also improving our mental health and it might be the metabolites that we're making in our gut actually help to facilitate the neurotransmitters in our brain. They also think it's linked with inflammation because eating enough fibre lowers our systemic inflammation, which can also affect our serotonin production in the brain. So I think it's complicated and I don't think we know all the answers to that yet. But I see this in my program. This is a really nice sort of anecdote. I have a self-reported questionnaire at the end. So it's I ask people questions and and let them tick a box. So people
Starting point is 00:21:09 that have changed their diet with me on a program I do call renew reset recharge, then we'll change their diet for 28 days. It's a bit of a weight loss program, but they're also resetting. And around 45% of people who finish the program tick a box to say that they feel happier. That's great. They feel better in their mood, happier. And they describe it as just feeling happier. So that's higher than any antidepressant research, isn't it? It's really interesting. So there's obviously lots going on. And it'll be great when we have all the answers to this.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I mean, the thing is, we'll never have all the studies because it's impossible to do so, especially with food. And when it's self-reporting, it's really hard. But when I'm sort of inquisitive, I always think, let's go back to the basics. And this is really basics. It's not like cutting-edge science. this is very simplistic in some ways and obvious.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But it's somehow been forgotten for so many years. If I go back to, you know, when I was growing up in the 70s, food was fresher. It was easy. We didn't have processing of foods in the same way. You couldn't eat the snacks that people do. You couldn't just go to a petrol station and drink some of those horrible coloured fluids that are now available. You know, there's all sorts of things that have changed. But I think stripping it back and cooking from scratch, lots of people still don't do.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So it's got to make a difference, hasn't it? And like you say, there'll be, there's so many different ways, but sometimes it doesn't matter as long as it's not doing harm. And eating healthily is never going to do harm, is it? I think just in the environment we live in with social media, we're always looking for the next thing, the next biohack, the next longevity, tablet, supplement or whatever. And I think having been a nutritionist for 30 years,
Starting point is 00:22:54 I think we sometimes are so wrapped up in our ice baths and our green powders that we're forgetting what's right under our nose and it's nutrition. And while I'm very clinically trained to work with many conditions simultaneously, actually what I've learned is, and I call it Zoom Out, when I run programs or I get people eating this weight like in the book and people just start to eat a healthier, balanced diet, lots of the small ailments that they had or symptoms disappear. So I had somebody on Monday who said,
Starting point is 00:23:26 who was following the triple 30 principles in my book. And she said, I've stopped taking acid reflux medication. I've been on it for 10 years. So these are self, this is not the same for everyone. But blood pressure might drop. HBA1c might normalise. Menopausal symptoms improve. Joint pain can improve.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Autoimmune diseases can improve just from changing our diet. So sometimes we need to zoom out, not over-complicate and over-medicalise everything in nutrition. And I think just by changing diet first and see what changes and then work with anything that's left over is kind of what I do in clinic now, rather than jumping in and completely turning someone's diet upside down or giving them 20 supplements, often that's not necessary. I think that's really important.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I think we forget just how powerful food is on its own. And we need to stop chasing the next. thing and what we do every day, those consistent habits like having breakfast, lunch and dinner, trying to get enough sleep, trying to, as much as we can control our stress levels, although that's really hard. It's those things we're doing every day that are really going to affect our long-term health, not chasing a supplement we might take for three months and then decide it's too expensive and then stop taking it. Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's so brilliant. And what you're doing is incredible and changing eating habits of so many people and families, I'm sure,
Starting point is 00:24:55 well. So I really appreciate you coming. Before I end, I always ask for three take-home tips, though. There's a lot that I want to ask you, but three things of people, I know a lot of people, a lot of listeners feel quite overwhelmed when I talk about food. And there's always people have got their own thoughts and own theories. But going back to your book, No Nonsense Nutrition, just three things that you think people could all do that's quite easy. That's going to make a difference to them. I think start with breakfast. You don't have to eat at the minute you get up in the morning, but I wouldn't push through till lunch. I think particularly for women, my female clients do much better when they have breakfast.
Starting point is 00:25:36 If you front load some of your calories in the day, you're less likely to sofa snack later on. And I think what you eat at breakfast actually dictates what you're going to eat for the rest of the day because you're not chasing calories because you've under-eaten. So I think it just makes you much more calmer. you're likely to have better choices at lunch and then find yourself snacking less in the evening. So breakfast, I think, is really important. Just have some really useful ingredients in the house, whether it's tinned sardines or mackerel, bottle beans. Oat bran. I'm a big fan of oat bran. I really like that. Having some nuts and seeds in. Just having some real basics in that you can just throw meals together quite quickly can be really helpful.
Starting point is 00:26:24 What else would I say? I think when you're in the supermarket, trying to get a wide variety of vegetables as well, just choose different colours, different types of vegetables. Throw them all into your salad. We so often just go for lettuce, tomato and cucumber. That, to me, is like a very sad looking garnish. Get colourful vegetables, hard vegetables,
Starting point is 00:26:45 make more than you need, because if you make a salad with hard vegetables, it can last for two to three days. Make more than I need. And using hard vegetables is going to give you more of the phytonutrients in the plants. It's just a really easy way of getting diversity in. Yeah. You make it look so easy.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So follow Dominic, buy her book and thank you so much for coming today. Oh, thank you. Thank you for having me. So just a quick one, it would be really great if you could follow or subscribe to this podcast. This will really help me reach more people with evidence-based information about hormones and their future health. and also means you never miss a future episode. Thank you.

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