The Dumb Zone FREE - Angel Reese vs. Caitlin Clark, Ryan Clark vs. RG3, and we still hate Michael Block | DZ 5-20-25 PREVIEW

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Hear the entire episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneThese two just can't seem to get along. We have another Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark dust up to settle. Plus, Blake was acting a little weird yesterday... ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hey now! What you are about to hear is a free preview of one of this week's premium episodes of The Dumb Zone. If you would like to hear this program in full, along with the full archive... Ah, shit. If you would like to hear this program in full, with the archive of all of our past episodes, you can subscribe at DumbZone.com. So, we had a legendary guest, if you didn't see it, it was Jordan, we went to her wedding over the weekend. She's a nice looking lady and a big fan of the show,

all that kind of stuff. Why did you even add that? Because you need that for this, what I'm about to tell you. If you don't know who she is, you have to know she is, what would be viewed by society as a very attractive lady. In fact, she's been hired as a model before, so that should tell you. It wasn't like a before that I've been involved in. So we've had so many guests in here. Other ladies too, right?

Sarah Heppela, Julie Dobbs. Does she count as a lady? Julie? No, she's just our buddy. Sweet Taryn was in here. Um, plenty of dudes. Eric Nadel. Jeremy Piven. Comes quickly to mind. Okay. Of all of those people, I have never, after the show is over, before yesterday,

seen Blake say, oh, let me walk you up to the front. Oh my God. Did you see that? I could feel it. I have never seen him move after the show. No, and he like. He just will sit there, he might reluctantly take a picture. It was a weird thing too, he did it at the wedding,

but it was like, he had to make sure he always had last hug. So like he would hug and then Dan would hug and I would hug and Blake would be like, let me come back in there. And like, it was clear there was just, he was trying to like leave his Blake residue. Well yeah, I put on cologne, it's... That's why he wore the khakis and lied to you

about wearing shorts. The walking out front. He's the only one who knew what she looked like. At least I know I didn't, and he was very excited. I was like, oh, this should be nice. But it's not gonna be good. I mean, you could call me a gentleman. I walked her out to her car as well.

I drove her to Houston. I'm just being a nice guy. I paid for her lawyer to get divorced. That used to be court customer service, but yeah, I guess I'm a weirdo. Bought her kids some Jordans. Gave her a mustache ride and then headed back up here. Good kid.

So you got your little leg. This guy's out of control. So he's like this, he's carrying this in his hand. He's like, oh, this is your car? And he's kind of standing on the bumpers. OK. That's how he would do it. Great to see you.

Yeah. Great to see you. Thanks so much for. He would do it spinning the apple tag on his finger like it's a pizza pie. Then he throws it on. Hey, here, I bought a key chain for you. Or just a... You know what's funny is when I bought Apple AirTags

for the first time recently, because I had the tile, which is an inferior product, I hate to say it, but there's like a thing they make you sign or something like, no stalking now. Oh really? They don't get any ideas. We know what this thing seems like it'd be great for. Don't try it.

I think that's a big thing, right? Like people actually do. Oh yeah, that's thus the waiver. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's why they. All right, wanna get to some stuff? Yeah, I's why they... Alright. Wanna get to some stuff? Yeah, I got some stuff. We'll call this sports.

We're not starting with Today on Twitter, are we? Although that is kind of... You know what? Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do what I call the weave. I'm gonna start with sports, we're gonna weave into today in Twitter and we'll go back to sports because truly,

I did think a sports story that I wanted to discuss happened over the weekend. And it was the Caitlin Clark Angel recent get together on the court. So apparently they played a game. And the only time I ever see anything about the WNBA seems to be when these two are going at each other in some way. Yeah. I don't even know if I get now we're in Dallas so a little Page... Bukers? Becker's.

Paige Becker's. Stuff will seep into my feed, but maybe I follow a lot of Dallas people, and that'll happen on you. I think Grant Alsef will give you some Dallas wings. Af-sef? I don't know. Yeah, there's a lot of the younger NBA fans seem to be Let's get in on the ground floor here. Yeah, this takes off. I'll be the guy I say

The league's been around for 20 years 25 But yeah, right right there to the ground floor Don't you kind of feel like it's just started to actually people know I do exists. I do And that's kind of what my thoughts on the whole thing were. I just thought it was a silly, it wasn't that big of a deal, this foul. So if you didn't see the play, it was Angel Reese's team. Angel Reese is ostensibly boxing out, but she pushes a Indiana player in the back to get her out of the way of a rebound.

Kaitlyn Clark is like, whoa, and points at it. Like, hey, ref, you didn't see that. So that rebound does go to Angel Reese. She ends up then trying to drive in for a nice easy layup, which, if you've watched some compilations, that might not exist exist an easy layup for Angel Reese. True. But I could be swayed by, you know. Twitter. Yeah, Twitter. I don't watch all the games. The numbers are the numbers. Maybe she makes 90% of her shots, but then they string together the 10 misses. I'll give them her the benefit of the doubt. Her

layup shooting percentage during her rookie season with the Chicago Sky was 42%. Layup shooting percentage. Not her three point shooting percentage? Her overall shooting percentage on shots within five feet of the basket was 44%. So if you're thinking like, okay, maybe once she gets a little bunny, that's her game, not right up close.

No. The crazy thing is, I don't know if she's, she should just try dunking it. They can't do that, right? She can't dunk? No. Okay. I know a couple players have.

I know, but I'm just saying, it's funny how different the game is. I mean, if you're at layup level, that like the one the men's game eight nine point per possession play in the NBA Yeah, what was like Shaxx layup percentage? Well, or is there not a layup because he just dunks right they don't call that layup You can break it down, but when they do it usually it's just by distance and it's zero to one Right, that's what they call a layup. But some sites will actually break down,

you know, layup versus dunk. Anyway, so I saw some stuff on internet about, oh, this is, it was just like, it was a regular play, but I think it was blown up a little big, because it was Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. And then Caitlin Clark, yeah, kind of bear hug, hard fouled her or whatever. It wasn't anything too egregious.

She then... The take fell. Yeah. She just then walked the other way and Angel Reese was all heated and yelling about it. It's okay though. I am a big fan of players who are heated and yell about stuff that maybe they shouldn't. Stop it. I haven't thought about it all day.

Stop. Stop it! I haven't thought about it all day. So the point is, I didn't think this was a big deal at all. And I do think that any WNBA stuff that at least I consume, and I'm going to consider that to be mainstream consumption, kind of has to do with these two and their little budding rivalry. And if you are to say, hey, this is a terrible play and you shouldn't do that, I think they should do it more. I think they should play each other more. I think we should build the whole plane out of the black box.

I think we should, yeah, I think that's what- This is what sells. It's what sells and it does kind of interest me. I'll watch the play. I want to see. I'm very interested in this little rivalry, which I think Angel Reese should be thankful that she is part of this rivalry because it kind of seems like there could be a hundred other ladies that would take her place. I mean, she's good

in this rivalry, but you're right. But Caitlin Clark is kind of one of one. She is the reason that anybody's talking about the WNBA at all. And then I see it played into kind of one of one. She is the reason that anybody's talking about the WNBA at all. And then I see it played into kind of a race thing. And I go back to, haven't we talked about this? I don't believe, I don't believe it really has anything to do with race at all. And I would just point to Seth Curry, Steph Curry, not Seth. Just that when he burst onto, like she plays like Steph Curry. If you ever watch her in a game, it's kind of amazing.

She's running around everywhere. She's shooting half-court shots. She's, you know, she's shooting logo shots. She's making them. It's exciting. It's a crazy exciting. Now we can go to the, we were talking about Ethan Strauss before, his thoughts on why she should have a Nike signature shoe and Asia Wilson.

It seems a little weird that they didn't try to capitalize immediately on Caitlin Clark. What if she is kind of a bust? You never know. And let's sell tons of shoes right this second but there does seem to be some kind of a political game with there does seem to be a racial component I don't know from the the whites I said she but it does seem like that's a thing like hey it's not all about Caitlin Clark look at all these players they're all deserving of this and

that they're all and Asia Wilson's the best player and she has been for three years and if her signature shoe isn't out yet, then Caitlin shouldn't get one and I think that's just ridiculous. Well, there's just, I agree. It's just, there's a lot of context and a lot of history here. I don't think race has nothing to do with it. I think Steph Curry being light skinned probably helped him and Caitlin Clark being white and from Iowa or wherever she's from but hails from Iowa. I think it helps her but Jordan wasn't life light skinned. No no and I think it helps with some people and I think maybe Jordan maybe if he were white it would have been quicker. I don't know. I think it helps a little bit.

But I also don't think that's, I don't think Caitlin Clark, I mean, she's handled it well. I don't think most fans are fans of Caitlin Clark because she's white. But from the other side of it, from the WNBA side, as absolutely as ridiculous as it sounds when that one executive was like, you know, Time Magazine should be putting the entire league on for sports person of the year,

for Time Sports Person of the Year. It's comical, it's pathetic, but let me just say, it is a league made up mostly of black women. And black women, by and large, at least I'll say, in my opinion, kinda take the shit into the stick on society on a lot of things. And generally probably feel like they have to do more to uphold whatever.

You hear this when it's like time to vote. Oh, saved by black women voting again, or communities, whatever. There is an idea, which I happen to believe is warranted of like, man, this, nobody ever gives us our due. And then when they do get their due, it's because a white woman who a lot of people might say sits at the very top of society in the privilege position of you didn't you kind of were just like skating on all the bad stuff that the white guys handle and you're not blamed for anything there's a symbolic thing to

it that I get it's not Caitlin Clark's fault it's not racism it's just that these groups both represent society, different groups in society. You know what I mean? If you were a black woman at the NBA, yes, you'd be like, at the end of the day, I'll take the private plane. But it would be hard not to look around and be like, I mean, we did have this league for a long time

and nobody cared. Now they only care because a white woman is involved. Even if you know it's not because she's white, I get where they're like a little bit, you know, whatever the word may be for it. I just kind of think, and I don't know how to combat the light skin, you know, Steph Curry thing. I just kind of think a player that plays like her

would be taking the lead by storm no matter what. Let me take that back then. I think you're probably right. It was a college player shooting logo threes. That's when we first learned of her. And it was like, whoa, this is crazy. You see highlights of this girl? I don't think it was because, and she's white, excellent.

She's not even particularly attractive, if that's all subjective, of course. But I would not categorize Kate. You know, some of the ladies that are in the WNBA, I think can go a little further because of that. Or, you know, at least get more notoriety initially. You know, Paige is a good looking lady. Yeah, I mean, we're, I think we're like on number four of you,

you just telling us what is it, and I don't know. Right. I don't know, I think Kayla Clark, again, looks like a McPoyle. I don't find her attractive at all. There are men in the NBA. But subjectively, some people might really like the McPoyles. You know, everybody's got a thing. Yeah, the way I look at it is I'm happy for people who are into the NBA.

I think the basketball's better than it used to be. I think it's like all sports. I think every sport is played at a higher level than it was 30, 40 years ago. And so that applies to female sports as well, women's sports. So I'm glad it's popular. At the same time it does seem like every single time there's a big story almost as we'll get to. Somehow I feel like I'm back in my race,

gender, ethnicity, and media class. Like a critical cultural study where every single story it's like oh but they were making ape sounds at her and I'm like I don't believe that happened. And then not that it's never happened but it didn't happen the other night. There would be video of it or you know is she being thought of this way because of this and it's all about it all just it's a lot dude it's very 2020 or 2012 it's a lot now I do have a WNBA story for you that doesn't involve race at all okay so we won't weave just yet I'm we yeah this is no weave yet don't

hit the open so one of Caitlin Clark's current teammates used to be with the Phoenix team. Her name is Sophie Cunningham. I thought that was Chicago. I thought they were the fire. Really? Or is that soccer? I thought that was the made-up Tom Gribble team. Sorry Jake. Just trying to determine who the Phoenix team is, but that's really not relevant to what you're about to say. No, what's relevant is that they are owned by the same team, by the same ownership group as the Phoenix Suns, which previously was owned by Robert Sarver and a collection of minority owners and was thought to be the horniest team in all of pro sports. You remember this? Something about a sock? His boat story where Steve Nash? Yeah here's a little bit of that. This is

Robert Sarver. One of his friends had passed away and he was speaking at a memorial for him. speaking at a memorial for him. Dick, that was right about when he bought the boat. The boat, the boat was a Bordella. I mean let's just be honest about it. Henry that's a whorehouse, Bordella. The boys used to park that thing off the beach there in Cabo. There was, what was that, what was that, the office, they parked that thing off the office in Cabo and they'd come in and bring them back, of course, Dick could great,

Dick could took great pleasure in knowing that he could get the girls before you guys could. I mean, he really took pleasure in that, that he could out maneuver you guys. But I remember one time where we had a little boat in San Diego and I'm driving with the family and the kids. My kids were like maybe eight, ten, or twelve and we're driving in the harbor and we pass Dick's boat.

I stop and I go, hey, I've never been on the boat. Oh, come on. So I bring the kids on board. That was not a good idea. Start walking around. It looks a little wild, there's a lot of people on there, a lot of drinking. I think, take a look around! So I bring the kids in, first room I open, there's two on one going on. I said, nah, I think it's probably a good idea we get the kids off the boat. So we got off the boat. Never went on the boat after that. You know, now that I've had a little time, I want you guys to tell stories like that when I die,

if you have them. He also told a story, I believe, about how the guy had, as just a prank, I think he hooked up with a cheerleader and finished in one of Steve Nash's socks in the locker room. Yeah. Well the good news is they got those horny owners in that ownership group out of there.

They were replaced a couple years ago. Maddish Bia bought the team, went nuts, went and got Bradley Beal and KD, or maybe they already had Beal, but it's a disaster. They are now, as an ownership group, involved in their own series of workplace violation lawsuits. The new owners.

The new ownership group. Of the, yeah. Sky? You know what, are they not just called the, is it Sky? Yeah, I think it is. I don't know. Mercury?

Mercury. Mercury. That's it. Yeah. So, the son's CEO is named Josh Bartlstein. He was hired by the new owner Ishbia. Now, who do you think Josh Bartlstein is, Dan? The CEO? I don't know.

Have you heard of Mark Bartelstein, the sports agent? No? Maybe. He's a big one. It's not coming. He represents, you know, Bradley Beal. Okay. Mark Bartelstein is one of the biggest. He's the son of?

He's the son of that guy, he's 35. Okay. He was the assistant GM of the Pistons, now he's the GM, they call him CEO, but GM of the Suns. And he was having sex with a player for the Phoenix Mercury, Sophie Cunningham. And that has now been entered into court documents. You are apparently not allowed to do that.

Oh, wow, good for him. So Jerry Jones could not have sex with Micah Parsons, is what you're saying. Is not allowed. I mean, it's interesting, right? Like you are the owner. So who's gonna? Governor.

Governor, well, not in the NFL. Right. Yeah, you own. They met in the middle at owner when they wanted to keep Massa. I'm trying to think, I don't know, I guess workplaces, I don't know how any of this works. Like what if you're in charge and you're like,

at this workplace, I have sex with you. That is part of the job. The Dungza.