The Dumb Zone FREE - Dallas Stars eliminated and Schotty keeps being Schotty | DZ 5-30-25 PREVIEW

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey now, what you are about to hear is a free preview of one of this week's premium episodes of The Dumb Zone. If you would like to hear this program in full, along with the full archive... Ah, shit. If you would like to hear this program in full, with the archive of all of our past episodes, you can subscribe at DumbZone.com. Shottie... ...is... I mean, he's a different dude. He's fun. We haven't told Saroy what we're gonna call him
Starting point is 00:00:30 whenever he's, so you know about like Riverboat Ron? Oh yeah. When Shoddy hangs him out there, we're going tactical Shoddy. Oh shit. I'm searching my Call of Duty heart. Tactical Shoddy, Jesus, that's amazing. Well done, I am in.
Starting point is 00:00:49 T-shirts, tie, print them. So he's fun. He is tactical during the games, but during press conferences he can be fun to prove it. What if we're having some technical problems? We gotta, I don't know, don't they for video sometimes like hold up a piece of white piece of paper and something? They're doing that, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:09 Color check. This is high tech stuff, huh? You guys want to start over? There we go. Mike is not here today, I know he's traveling somewhere. The cadence may or may not be the same. We're off to hell of a start. Dude, yeah, that's my coach right there. That's a guy. It is so funny, man. I love that this is like the theme of our Cowboys coverage because you know, like your buddy starts dating a girl and he's so into it and he's just, he's obsessed.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And you're like, dude, this is going to flame out so quick and you are going to hate her. Just all the media like, huh, look at it, man. Just wait. Un-guy. Meanwhile, it's going to be like week three, Caleb Williams with Ben Johnson puts up like 504 on us. And like, well, I don't really do the defense.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You're going to have to ask Coach Fluse about that. He loves to throw in a Fluse on you. Oh yeah. So a question to George Pickens will lead us to Shottie's favorite word. I think number one he's doing an incredible job picking up the system. I talked about his intentionality last week I believe just how hard he's working but there was. Bingo! I told you guys. God, he loves it. So we have a mole. Saad Youssef is going to ask a question. They don't typically just out your mole. I don't know that he is a... like we're not telling him to do anything, but somehow I feel like Saad... I feel like he might be doing this for us,
Starting point is 00:03:06 but I have no confirmation on that. But he knows, I mean we've said what our favorite shoddy thing is, is this word intentionality. So I'm only putting two and two together here. I know Saad is a good friend and all that kind of stuff. I never asked him to do this, but this is what he did. Saad, use the athletic. Ryan, we've heard the word intentionality from you quite a few times, and even in the locker room from the players. Why is that? Is that a message that you're conveying to the players, and why is that such an important trait? Do you guys think maybe Saad is helping us out here? I don't know if he's doing it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I don't think there's any maybe about it, but I also think that he's a good reporter. And that is a word that is a buzzword in the let's all do good business and dip our face in ice water. It's a good question, but it's definitely for us. I think it's important because it takes planning to be intentional about something you have to be Today today could I love it some people around the league a meaningless practice. It's OTA Four I guess so okay hands get through OTA for see what shotting the guys have for us
Starting point is 00:04:22 Third person talking huh? He likes it. He's gonna use shoddy as well a for I guess So okay, let's get through ot4 see what shoddy and the guys have for us But the guys that truly get it the guys that want to be great the teams that want to be great Visualize a planet out of okay when I go out to individual today. What fundamental what skill do I really want to work on? What is one of my weaknesses that I want to improve? You guys are gonna have to turn my camera off because I am rock hard. We'll talk about it and we do. You know, in the stretch line some will be, you know, we're not
Starting point is 00:04:54 just talking about the music that's playing, we're talking about, hey, what are you working on today? You know, because if they haven't thought about it, then they're going to miss an opportunity to either get better or just stay the same. And so it's something that I believe makes the difference between some really very talented players that are good players and talented players that become great and elite players because if they're focusing and working with intention on, hey, this is a weakness of mine, I got to clean up or get better at. And this is what the coaches have helped me kind of identify.
Starting point is 00:05:26 You gotta turn it off. Then we're gonna waste time, certainly in individual periods. I need to work on that and get better. I'm gonna stop burping during the show. That is my intentionality today. Think about it. During the show that is my intentionality today. I think about it
Starting point is 00:05:49 So is the identity of this team? What is the identity of a shoddy team? caring food It's hard because the first thing I would say is you know we want to be physical We're gonna be a physical football down We will be a physical football team, but the league has it set to where it's hard to practice at. OK, so wait, we're going to be a physical football team.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But I mean, the league, the league is they're not letting us. I don't know, though. I think, though, I'd run through a wall for shoddy because he did say, I mean, come on, on guys we'll be physical I know you're not allowed to hit and stuff well let me just compare it to another first time head coach and somebody had asked him what is their identity so this team's gonna be built on we're gonna kick you in the teeth all right and we're gonna smile at you and when you knock down, we're gonna get up and on the way up,
Starting point is 00:06:47 we're gonna bite a kneecap off. All right, and we're gonna stand up and then it's gonna take two more shots to knock us down. All right. And on the way up, we're gonna take your other kneecap and we're gonna get up and then it's gonna take three shots to get us down. And when we do, we're gonna take another honk out of you before before long, we're gonna be the last one standing. All right,'s going to be the mentality yeah okay how'd that work out for that guy i don't know the nfc championship game yeah i'm gonna rip each of your balls off your whole dick i'm gonna floss with
Starting point is 00:07:19 all right if you don't like that hold on on though. All right, Cody. Let's go back and get motivated by- No, I'm good there. I'm good there. Let's go back and get motivated by this little guy. Okay. We want to be physical. We're going to be a physical football team. We will be a physical football team, but the league has it set to where it's hard to practice at.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So what I would think that you guys will see today is when you're watching practice is we're going to be an attacking unit. I think the thing I'm most proud of over the first couple of first week I would say of phase three and being on the grass and able to run plays against one another. Cuz in phase two you can't, right? You're on separate fields doing separate things is watch the effort and the intensity of-
Starting point is 00:08:04 separate fields doing separate things is watch the effort and the intensity of everybody when the ball back where the runner breaks free the not only the speed that these guys are running with but we call it the transition so when a ball thrown somebody's body part off dude Dan Campbell and hard knocks had the bar about dragging people out to deep water, drowning them and all that and then Shottie's like, you wanna play ping pong? We got ping pong in here. What about we go grab a little Costa Vida for lunch
Starting point is 00:08:37 or something, I don't know. I would love that. I love a quick casual bite. Sit down, there's a big charcuterie board I've set up. It's on me. And I want you guys to enjoy the mustard. Hey, see that buffet spread that's set out here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You don't have to pay for it. It's me. Oh, thank you. That's me. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Brian. That's me. Listen, don't tell all your friends.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I don't want everybody getting excited, but I got you a football. This one's on me. Yeah Yeah, you have to pay for that football or anything. See that cowboy Cowboy the sweatshirt. Yeah, take it home. Take it. Yeah Jers, you know, you don't have to return it Okay, we've noticed something else with shoddy have we he likes to with Shottie. Have we? He likes to, he'll ask himself a question. I went to Seattle and the system I was running out there in Seattle, you know, I kept it in place
Starting point is 00:09:35 and I probably changed 30% of it. Why? Well, they had a veteran quarterback by the name of Russell Wilson. Why Shoddy? Well, I'm not going to answer that. Listen, listen pal, your journey to just now becoming a head coach is not a goosebumps novel. You have to be like, Ooh, what happened at every turn? It's the most boring fucking career ever. Well, I mean, there's a standard. The standard is we want to be the best. And will we be the best culture? I don't know. Uh, I mean, yeah, there's a standard. The standard is we want to be the best. And will we be the best culture? I don't know. We're gonna try. And will we make mistakes
Starting point is 00:10:09 along the way? Absolutely. We'll make mistakes and then we'll fix things. And but you know, like, now that one, he ended with a very rare um, but you know, like, I'll try. And will we make mistakes along the way? Absolutely. We'll make mistakes and then we'll fix things and but you know like. Oh what a four pack. I've definitely done that. He hit the superfecta. Of course but when Shottie gets his own show and he can replay that audio then Jake of you saying it. Otherwise we'll play him and of course he does like to we've already got GP right are we doing GP? Oh yeah for George Pickens what else we got? Tyler's having a great offseason talking about Tyler Guyton I have to always
Starting point is 00:10:57 specify that because there's so many Tyler's now but you know TG. Of course. We're going TG for Tyler Guyton. That's not good. There's better options there. Guy. It reminds me a ton of Jalen Tolbert, if I'm being honest with you. Jalen Tolbert, year one, you guys were all here, right?
Starting point is 00:11:16 You know, up and down, hey, here's a high draft pick, you know, and didn't have a great first year. JT was one of the first guys back in the building. Well, Tyler Guyton was one of the first guys back in the building. Well, Tyler Guyton was one of the first guys back in the building. Hey, can you stop dicking with your mic? Yeah, I don't know what he's, does he have a handheld? What is his bit?
Starting point is 00:11:35 I don't know, but it's annoying. Yeah, that's it. That's enough of the annoying audio of Brian Schottenheimer. And you know what else, so I did this whole thing. Sometimes we have to listen to a whole one and then at the end I'm like, boy, I should have been marking. He does mention-
Starting point is 00:11:55 We're learning him. Right, we're learning him and that's why this time I was ready with the asking himself a question and the nicknames. He will bring up his dad a lot. And I guess if you're Brian Schottenheimer, you almost have to because a lot of people are like, why are you here again?
Starting point is 00:12:12 What is the, who are you? Yeah, but that's a choice, though, because there's a lot of people who would run from that. I mean, you barely even hear Belichick mention it. Now, I guess it's because by the time I knew Belichick, he was super successful. But Bill Belichick mention it. Now, I guess it's because by the time I knew Belichick, he was super successful. But Bill Belichick's dad wrote the Bible of football. Well, how about Shanahan?
Starting point is 00:12:31 I don't hear him do that at all. Right. His dad was pretty successful himself. But again, Kyle Shanahan was a wonderkin very early. So and Schottenheimer's not, but I would think he'd want to shy away from. It's tough for him to shy away from it though. And they asked Jerry, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:12:49 I hired him because I knew his dad. His mom is super sweet. It's pretty much it. But so the players, the other thing we're going to be tracking is when your boss is such a good time guy, you're going to talk about it as an employee. And Tyler Smith, TS, I think we're calling him.
Starting point is 00:13:12 He was talking in the locker room yesterday. And this is from the file of stuff that'll be sent to me a million times. Pause. You love that Blake? What? Everyone's being asked, do you feel like it's just more fun? Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I mean, I can't lie. He started off hot. The first thing we did was went paintballing. Oh, man. Okay, we nailed that. the first thing we did was went paintballing. Like we went paintballing. Oh man! Okay, we nailed that. Of course we nailed it! But they had already done it! They just mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:13:54 The first thing we did. We went paintballing. We went paintballing. We went paintballing the first day of like optional team activities or whatever So it was just like I thought that was like a crazy thing That's never happened before and then like we just kind of got we did like a little field day on the second day or whatever
Starting point is 00:14:13 So yeah, you know, I'm a car. He had us like doing Football all the other teams are practicing. Yeah, he said the second day was a field day We did a sack race and a three-legged race and a toss the egg toss Really cool to start things off on like, you know a fun note like instead of just yeah Right into the meeting room and just you know going through X's and O's and stuff like that We won seven games last year. We have an entire new plan to implement, but first things first. The best at paintball, Marquise Bell.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Oh my God. Oh my God. Marquise Bell could probably go to SEAL Team Six. I don't know why he'd be paintballing. So yeah, Bell for sure. Where did that take place? Did you guys have to take that place? The rest of it, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You talking about the paintball? Yeah. I can't remember the name of the place. It was like 10 minutes from here. And it was over there. Yeah, the guys were going crazy. I'm not the best paintball guy myself. I'm a big target.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I don't like getting shot up too much at all. But it was fun though. Yeah, man. And Jake Ferguson, look for him to have a breakout year after he was the all-star of tug-of-war on day two. The anchor. He really looked like he'd... It's leverage guys, it's not just strength.
Starting point is 00:15:35 We're not just going in and looking at these fucking lame gay plays. What are we doing? No, I don't want to do that. I want to do cornhole. Can I call something,, I would say, the first six weeks of the season, they're going to have a players only meeting just because they're tired of Shoddy.
Starting point is 00:15:53 They're like, dude, like, yes, we are rocketing up the local gold tea breakings. I'm tired of eating with him. I'm tired of bowling. I just want to go home. Can't play any more games. I can't. I'm tired of eating the ham, I'm tired of bowling, I just want to go home. I can't play anymore games, I can't, I'm so tired. I love it. Yeah, vibes are good.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Vibes are good. Tactical shoddy. You want to do something from your list? I have a quick one. Okay. on your list? I have a quick one. OK. Well, it's not super quick, but I have an expanded Kemp spin here. I don't know the last time we had a new one, but we were offered a new one recently
Starting point is 00:16:34 by the Denver Nuggets hiring a new head coach, Dan. Do you know who the Denver Nuggets new head coach, as of like May, is? I don't. He is David Adelman. He's 44 years old. And they promoted him to head coach. He is the son of Rick Adelman, who is a longtime NBA player.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Where would you most identify him as a coach? of Rick Adelman, who is a longtime NBA player. Where do you most identify him as a coach? Like the Blazers, maybe? Yeah, I think Blazers. Has he been a coach elsewhere? The Papa? Rick? Rick was a coach everywhere.
Starting point is 00:17:19 OK. Minnesota, Houston, Sacramento. Golden State, Sacramento. Minnesota is the one I remember from Mav's era, because I believe that's where Berea went after the finals, right? Yeah. And Adelman was his coach there.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But anyway, so he has a son named David Adelman, 44 years old, who was hired as an assistant with the Denver Nuggets back in 2017. Again, timelines match up there. His father, actually no wait, his dad was out by then. Yeah, so his dad's out by then. He's hired as an assistant in 2017. He was promoted to head coach in May of this year. If you recall that very strange NBA story when like a team that was vying for the one seed fired their head coach. They hired him.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Fired their GM at the same time too, right? Yeah, was that? Former Maverick player, I believe. Calvin Booth? Yeah. So a listener sent this to us. This is Estevan. And he's like, I think you guys would
Starting point is 00:18:22 find this interesting just from the nepotism standpoint. So, you know, he's, uh, he's a long time NBA assistant, but before he was an NBA assistant, he was a high school coach. He never coached in between there. He went straight from high school to NBA, you know, assistant. So this guy's like, Hey, you should look into what happened at his previous stop, his high school, where he left to join the Timberwolves,
Starting point is 00:18:54 where his dad was the coach. So I did. And while he was there, he was the coach at a high school in Oregon, a very successful high school with a lot of rich kids, like a prep school. And he received not one, but two DUI charges while he was the head coach there.
Starting point is 00:19:14 This is back in 2011, Lincoln High School. So he went to trial, went on trial, went to court for this DUI, the second one. It was a big deal because this is like a prominent high school. Imagine, I mean it might not be a big deal to like you Dan, but if the head coach at like DeSoto or Southlake or something got a second DUI, our local media would be covering it. They would especially be covering it because he got his second DUI after a parent covering it because he got his second DUI after a parent who is listed as a prominent Portland financier had a son on his team who wasn't getting enough
Starting point is 00:19:52 playing time and he hired a private eye to tail the high school basketball coach caught him leaving none other than a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. and getting on the freeway, calls the police, he gets pulled over, and that's how he ended up with a DUI. His defense found this out and was like, this is an unlawful arrest. I think he ended up maybe getting off on the second one. But yeah, that's his last job before he was fired from a high school job.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And the next year was an assistant in Minnesota. On his dad's staff. On his dad's NBA team. Because he wasn't getting another job. No one else was going to hire him in the NBA off of a high school. You know, I mean, he was a good high school coach, but probably nobody's hiring you in college in a decent job right away if you're fired from a second DUI from your high school job. So he just went right into, I can hide my son on the bench in the NBA 14 years ago. And then he was an assistant there and then he was assistant
Starting point is 00:20:56 in Denver for the last eight years. And now he's the head coach of a team. That's like, going to be good for a few years. But yeah, I just thought, and then I looked up the dad and yeah, he's got like some LinkedIn that's like, okay, this guy is definitely a billionaire. And that's a solid play though. Hey, this coach is screwing my boy. Yeah, not playing my boy enough, so let me hire a private investigator?
Starting point is 00:21:20 That's nuts. It's awesome. What is he expecting to find? Well, that. He found what he found. He wanted to be able to get the guy a DUI. Just in case. Yeah, but the, yeah, if you know he's a guy going out
Starting point is 00:21:34 drinking all the time, so yeah, all right. Yeah, I mean, and again, he already had a DUI. That's weird that that's unlawful. Like, if you're actually doing it, it's like, OK. Like it wasn't the police that did an illegal search and seizure or something. It was a citizen tracking someone, seeing them do something illegal,
Starting point is 00:21:57 and then calling the cops on them, which seems totally legit. And also, if you're the backup backup point guards dad or whatever like You got my yeah, I mean you're messing with my kid She did the private eyes a lady just called the cops like after sitting outside the bar and Told like I saw this guy have at least ten drinks and then she called said hey, he's in the drive-through at Taco Bell. Of course he is. And so then his attorney's like, yeah, but both cops say,
Starting point is 00:22:33 they didn't actually see him change lanes illegally. So I don't know what happened, but the point is this guy's going to be in NBA. I guess he could fail son his way out of it, but he's probably going to be the Nuggets coach for at least a few years. He's 44 and good on him. That's a solid fail up.

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