The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 1-1-26 | Subathon Replay #3

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

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Hello, I'm professional broadcaster Dan McDowell, letting you know that you were about to hear one of our free podcast. But if you'd like to subscribe at dumbzone.com, you'll get four shows per week plus the weekend wrap-up and any bonus sods like our business Wednesday interviews. So, if you forgot how to use the 15-second rewind, that's dumbzone.com to subscribe. Now, on to today's program. Yeah I never listen to the dumb song All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.

I never listen. I'm gonna listen to the dumb song. Hey thanks Jake or thanks me which one of us threw it to us the former us you think only future us knows yeah anyway as future us just said we have the great Steve Noviolo Hey Steve Steve Steve what are you doing the content I mean that's what we're all doing you're doing content yeah you are filming us filming you people you know what I get more compliments about being on this show that I get sometimes about being on my own shows. Your own shows. Wow. This guy's got so many shows.

He's a factory. The 10? No, you have three. Do I? Well, you have the 10. You have last call. Yes. And then you have whatever you call your podcast. Please no gifts. That's right. Yes. Yes. No gifts, please. There you go. So close, Jake. So close. But they take the 10 takes off like Letterman.

Oh, like in terms of being dark. Yeah. You're run like TV schedule? So more at last call, but this year, yes. So the 10 during the holidays, we're dark for two weeks. Okay. Yeah. So last call, no summers.

The 10 just no. Yeah. So we're doing a little holiday break for the 10. Last call, you know, we are, I think we're going to see some exciting things from that show in the new year. Okay. Sounds pretty vague. That's my big tease. It's vague, but it's better than we won't be seeing that show in the new year.

Well, we'd love to have you back. I love how many people who have, like, big time jobs that everybody knows come up to us and say, boy, I hear so many people, like, what am we going to get famous? Like, oh, these Jared Sandler, like, oh, you know, I'm on TV, but everybody comes up to me and says, I know me from the dumb zone. Like, is this ever going to work out for us? I get the same thing. We have done so many profiles on, like, so many small businesses that we've turned into, like,

huge successes. And Raoul and I are like, we should have just asked for a cut. like we we should have just said okay 10% points on the back end about the car trays that we that we've highlighted from Amazon I think Steve Noviello might be this year's favorite thumb zone guests

based on reaction Sarah Heppla is up there okay we can't I mean I got somebody sent me a Reddit thread recently and it was it was pretty nice people people seem to enjoy our time together I don't think speaking of which

it is the holidays I have a gift for you Oh, Steve. Maybe this will put me over the edge for favorite guests. Here we go. That's you. That's all you, bud. Oh, okay. Wow.

Look at that. Look at that. We've got a big. A little something for your digs here. Wow. Look at that. What do we got? Unbelievable.

It is the dumb zone with Fox 4, Steve Noviolo on the set of last call. That's beautiful. Signed, one year of DZ TV, gay. That's awesome. That is a. Great, great gifts. There you go. Merry Christmas.

John Kukla had a hand in that, of course. Well, we got you that fabulous bottle of how water. I mean, this is some cold water. You want to know it's crazy. So Steve walks in here to do the interview. And he goes, oh, you guys are wearing a Christmas sweaters. I'm like, yeah, yeah. You know, we're airing this on 22nd and everything.

He goes, want me to wear one? I can go get one. Like, you just have a Christmas sweater. Dude, I'm ready for anything. Yeah. Did you have that? You would not have been surprised by that. No, I wouldn't have been surprised by that.

A guy who's got plenty of different. And the problem is if I say that I'm not surprised by that, it feels like I'm being very, like, judging on stereo. He just goes to the closet and it's like, what seasonal, what seasonal attire do you need? Come on. Does TV have a, you talk about taking the two weeks off. Does TV have a non-rated period?

Because radio does. We get ratings. I mean, obviously, there's sweeps periods that are more important. And, Frank, I don't know if they're that much as important as they once were. But we get ratings every day. So we're always rated whether or not they count toward advertising revenue as heavily is another question. Yeah. But we get overnights every day.

Okay. Because we would get them over the holidays, Dan. You just didn't get them. I would get them. They just didn't care. They didn't care. But you would get them as a fill-in guy. You're like, maybe this means we'll be hosting the Musers next year.

Because I, one of the things, I mean, I hate getting ratings. Even though we always had really good ratings, I hated it. The whole thing, because it would go up, it would go down. When I started, we would get it, we would get a trend monthly, and then we would get a rating book every three months. And then they started getting the thing every month, and they would break that down. Can you imagine having to do it? overnights.

Oh, yeah. What have we been doing lately to micromanage? Like, it just gives management something to fred over and then to micromanage what you're doing as if it's not like a long, it's kind of a long haul type thing. Do you guys get yours also in comparison to the other stations? Like, the format for ours is it's every 15 minutes is a rating. And you can tell, so like, if we go down, you can be like, okay, well, who went up? Where did these people go when they left us?

Did they turn their TV off or did they go switch to another channel? But then when they talk about what you do during that time period? I mean, if you're being granular, you could go back to the rundown and say, okay, on Tuesday at 10.15, what were Stephen Page talking about that either had people tuning in or leaving en masse? The dumb zone. Yeah. Promoting some sort of event. Yeah, that would be very tricky. And it's especially because I don't know if people know this, but the media company pays for the ratings.

And once you're paying for something, you're like, yeah. Like, well, we have to find a way to use this. We're going to bring it up in every email. Yeah. Or if you don't get the results you want, give a call to the company that you're paying. Yeah. We honestly don't hear about our, I mean, I don't look at mine. Raoul looks at them a lot.

And we'll send me people like, oh, my God, we, you know, we tripled the three major late-night talk shows. Or like today, Paige was asking about the ratings for the 10. And we are doing better right now than all three network stations combined at 10 a.m. with a local show which is which is great you know we're a little bit more than a year into that project but my philosophy is if they're really good someone's going to mention it and if they're really bad someone's going to mention it so we're let's just keep doing what we do so uh i mean i sort of made an off color joke there about the sweater but i'm going to keep going with this theme do people expect you as a gay man to be really into holidays like is it is the onus on you to decorate or

be like i grew up i think i told you this before my mom did all this in here the deck i love it this is a nice garland my mom uh is we she was interior decorator but she so is like this is what she's done forever and i grew up around like a christmas gasm at all times and i'm just not i don't know it kind of worked backward on me i don't i don't love it did she do these pleated skirts for your desks here too oh yeah oh wow she does all of it i mean she makes draperies and yeah whatever um But there's certainly a stereotype that if you're like, you know, a certain type of gay man, that you're like, oh, I just love the holidays. Well, I mean, like, also, I think that that's always such a, like, oh, she loved the holidays. Like, that's a really unique designation, right?

It's not, but I'm telling you, and Dan can vouch. My mom, it's like, it's what she, her thing is Christmas. Yeah, I don't doubt her. You know, we, the neighborhood we live in, many of the home. are of a level where they have people decorate for them we don't we're kind of a garland around the door lighted candle in every window tree in the window situation i would love to go like balls to the wall with some like crazy holiday decorating because we have kids and every year i think i'm going to and then i just am too busy to maybe next year um but uh yeah we have

But we have a pretty standard, hey, we get our tubs of stuff out of storage and decorate the house, and that's that. Is your husband into it? He is into, he's more into Thanksgiving that he's into Christmas. Interesting. He's a big Thanksgiving guy. Big Thanksgiving guy. We have like a 10-foot inflatable turkey on our front lawn for Thanksgiving. It looks like a giant nutcracker, but it's a turkey.

We are in general against the inflatable on the lawn. Yeah, my mom's a big inflatable hater. Oh, yeah. I'm not a big Yeah, the turkey is The turkey is a little bit of It's an exception I'm gonna I'm gonna say

That keeps everybody happy I'm not a big inflatable guy I think it's a cop out It just looks so beaten during the day I guess that's Christmas ones You turn them off during the day It's just laying there

It's a deflated spider Yeah It's really weird Yeah How old are your boys again The little guy just turned seven, and our older son will be nine in February. What are they into? The older one is into Pokemon, Minecraft, and math.

And the little guy is into, like, magic and this game called Death Squared on Switch. And he, he's just really funny. Death Square. It's like a brain game. Okay, I like this. That sounds different, yeah. Yeah, no, it's a brain game for sure. Yeah, no, they're pretty cool.

They're pretty awesome little human beings. What would happen if you were to pick up two homeless guys and you have one of your kids in the back seat and you drive around with the homeless guys? Maybe to their... What would your spouse? What would your partner do? Run a couple errands for them, take them to a storage unit.

This is something that Blake did with his little boy in the back seat. Is the homeless guy in the front seat or the backseat with your child? Well, there's two of them. So one of them is going to have to be back there. He was in the back. This was not premeditated. And nine and seven, this kid's four. Did you find the two unhoused people together, or did you pick them up separately?

Did they get along, is my question. He collects them. I have one homeless man, which I'm not sure if you're up to date or not. Well, get them up to date. It's a great story. It's the holidays. It's the year of Blake. It's giving.

Okay, the 32nd catch up. I don't know if you knew that. You'll know by the end of the... Sure. Met a guy on the dart train was homeless. I felt for him. I thought the chicken sandwich I bought him that day was not going to help him into perpetuity.

I thought I need to help this man going forward. I've sensed... We have an arrangement. I give him a Venmo debit card that I reload every month to help him however he sees fit. Early on, I thought it was funny. He wanted exquisite tacos

when I thought he might get some basic food. So this kind of turned into a bit. Anyway, I had some clothes that I needed to donate. I thought of him. When I gave him the clothes, I didn't think ahead that he's going to have to carry all of this. Yeah. And so he had met another homeless guy that day, and they were hanging out, and I drove him to a storage unit. I did not think all this through.

Brooks was in the backseat. So it was me, Brooks, two homeless men as I drove them around town and tried to help the best I could. Wife was not happy. I was going to say, and which divorce attorney are you using? Yeah, I don't know if the Frankles help with that or not So you would have a problem with this If you're I mean in retrospect yeah I do too

But at the time I don't know I mean there's in fairness to you First of all kudos for your kind spirit There does seem to be a pre-existing relationship here And had the person not been homeless If we took that out of the equation If it was just a strange man Then would it be so bad right

So like why does why does that carry so much weight Right? because poor people are dangerous but I'm his meal ticket he wouldn't hurt me I tend to agree I brought that up at the time why he's not going to kill the golden goose

right it's like a drug dealer like you're not going to sell me stuff with fentanyl and if I die I can't buy more drugs yeah it's one customer or less yeah I don't think it's a great idea yeah no I tend to agree now but in the situation I couldn't just dump all this stuff

all right see yeah so the storage unit Is that, was that their storage unit that you were driving them to? Yeah. That's interesting. Now, this is maybe a dumb question, but why not stay there? I think they're pretty hardcore about that. That's what we... They're not allowed, yeah.

That's what we... I mean, you're not allowed to stand on the street and panhandle either. Like, I think if you decided to leave your husband over the inflatable and you needed, like, a night, you could pull it off. But if you're... Like, we have a storage unit. It's like a key card. It's a keypad system. you go in no one's really there

you go to your thing you do whatever you lock it up you leave you could definitely do it for a night you might be able to do it for a couple nights but you would not be cameras everywhere yeah they're going to eventually yeah eventually yeah he's got a drum kit in there

we've learned a lot about multiple TVs what's the bill storage unit every month I don't know I think his family helps him with that but it probably isn't more than 10 to 15 bucks you can get really I think it's more. Where is that? Because ours keeps going up. It's not in a great part of town, but I was definitely paying almost $100 for mine years ago.

Okay. So you were driving with the homeless people in a bad part of town as well. I mean, you're right. And it sucks too because. I didn't pick them up in Highland Park. I'm, you know, bleeding hard, lefty or whatever over here. But every, every Angelo's story just makes me more and more Republican. Like, he won't help himself.

He wanted Blake to deliver the food. to him one time because it was raining. Yeah. But did Blake set that precedent? I mean, I've definitely come off as a softie. Like, I tell him you have this amount of money, 100 bucks a month to spend. And then as soon as he runs out, he asks for more.

What's he buying? Because you can see the Venmo. Unfortunately, in, you know, this. Because you can't cash out. No, no, no. He, early on, and I feel like he's gotten better. Early on, the reason I brought it to the show was I felt good about helping this guy. this $25 at the time would go far and he spent almost all of it immediately at a high-end taco

place getting a trashy style and that's why i brought it that's why i brought to the show i thought go to your macdonalds even chipotle even i don't know make it go far but he just blew it in one sitting and i was just really thrown off by that and so that it's become an economics study almost yeah yeah for sure but he's not like blowing it on you know nefarious thing or he buys food it's always food but here recently since i've upped his amount he has gone to walmart and dollar tree and i think gotten other things socks i mean yeah yeah no socks is a big one yeah you hope he's yeah he's been called based on angelo's track record though i was thinking more like remote control car like i don't seems to kind of go for it when he's got his thing now which i mean makes me really sad someone

stole his quilt and so he's been hit me up about a quilt that i need to find i could get him a I was going to say. And we've had nice subscribers and listen to donate to his fund and it's turned into I hope a good thing for him but it has been

it's been a lot to what's the obstacle like there's something like do you feel like there's something that's keeping him from becoming homed? He's a little off

but I don't know he just he doesn't really have that desire I think I think he's just getting by this is yes yeah yeah I know somebody like that who he lives in the

Oakland area and I'll see him sometimes he's kind of in and out of recovery I'll see him sometimes sometimes I'll see him on the street and he's like I this is this is my place like I just this is where I want to be yeah he has family that he's talked about

but he's just off on his own yeah and I don't think that's like everybody but I think it's more common than people think you almost just get used to it especially if you've been in and out of treatment like I personally I know that there have been times this year where I was like, damn, I'm missing it in there.

Like, there's like, you miss it at rehab? Yeah. Yeah. So, easy? The structure, but also just there's like, there's something around just being around a lot of people who are kind of all going through it that I could almost see like if you were homeless,

you'd want to be around other people who are experiencing. They get you. They get it. Like, how are you going to do? You're going to talk to Steve and be like, oh, this is what? But I don't know. I mean, certainly empathetic people could, with your plight, they could see it. But most people are not going to have a clue what you're going through.

Yeah, the magic of identification. Yeah. And sometimes I do feel that way about the treatment is like, everybody in there kind of got it. But that's why people go to meetings, right? Sure. That is a big part of it. That's the whole thing. It's like, hey, we're all doing this together.

Yeah. Steve Novielo, very popular DFW personality on television. Where did you come from? Where was your, like, first job? Where'd you go to college? Oh, wow. Okay. Well, let's go all the way back.

Undergrad, I went to the State University of New York at Geneseo. It's about a half hour south of Rochester, New York. I'm very now familiar. My daughter goes to, where does she go? Ithaca. Oh, yeah, yeah, so not too far. Not too far. Kind of the same, you know, I mean.

What a beating getting there? You can fly into Rochester, drive a half hour south. The winters were also a beating. It's just the timing of any flights. It's always a connection. Like I've taken now to flying to Buffalo and driving three hours because I can at least get a direct flight to Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I don't doubt that. Then I left the U.S. when lived overseas for a little bit, bartending and kind of figuring some things out in London and then did some traveling. After college. After college. Between college and grad school. Okay, so you grew up in New York. I'm guessing.

I grew up in New York. Yep. Grew up in New York. college in New York as well. My parents said, listen, we'd like you to go to grad school. And I was like, man, I don't really know about that. Then about my senior year, I was like, well, another couple of years of this, just much like we were discussing earlier, might not be so bad.

This is kind of a comfortable life, and I'm enjoying it. Did you major in and stuff? Did you want to be TV guy? No. So I originally went to school. I got in special talent theater and then was all sorts of. to things. That was a philosophy major. I was an English major. I was a, you know, and then one semester, I think it was my sophomore year. I took a communications class because it started later than another

class. That was an option and kind of fell in love with it. It was like, wow, you've got a bit of a knack for this and kind of continued down that route. My freshman year of college, I almost failed out. I was on academic probation. I had like a one, three, six or something. You know, I was figuring some things out in the personal life. Was that when they were grooming you to be gay? That's when the groomers came. You couldn't go to class.

They were in godinating you. There were so many meetings and so many lessons. And how to. Seriously. Like what's the difference? Correct. Like what's the difference between twall and plaid? Like you don't get it.

You love Christmas. You love Christmas. Correct. Like you... I don't know if I do. You love Christmas. Like you don't drape things. You festoon.

things like i mean these are differences that you have to learn when they're teaching you how to be home man i took all these classes as a kid my mom is this guy should have just i should just hopped over i feel like you yeah you would uh you know um so that's part of it the yeah no for sure yeah it's just okay because i remember having a tough time the freshman year and it was because of uh now i can drink all the time and i'm on my own yeah and i no one's telling me what to do for a schedule i think mine is more like i just like no one's telling me what to do do period, you know, like, and I, you know, wasn't doing great academically and like kind of figuring out who I was and like all of that other kind of stuff. And then I stayed over

intercession that first year. I remember and took like a photography class, something that I knew I would do really well in to get my grades up enough to be able to stay. And then I stayed and the second semester went a little better. And then I think I might have even stayed during that summer because I wanted to be an RA my sophomore year. So I had to get my grades up a little bit more, which then, of course, happened, uh, communications, yada, yada, yada. Did you get to be the R.A? Because I applied to be an R.A. I did. I got to be an R.A. I also pledged a fraternity my freshman year, which I loved. That was a great experience. Um, still, still, still. You're like, haze me.

Yeah. No. Oh. Um, no, no, no. Um, yeah. Uh, yeah, it's still, still close with a lot of those guys all these years later. Yeah, no. And then my parents were like, you know, go to grad school and I thought, okay, let me apply and get accepted and then defer it. So I went overseas for a little bit

and then came back and I went to Emerson College in Boston. I got my master's in journalism. So for a couple of years, you spend in Europe? No, no, no, no. It was maybe like a little more than a semester, probably. I got a plane ticket and a backpack. went over there and found a job as a bartender and they also gave you housing. So I lived with all these other kids that, you know, were from all over the world doing the same thing I was doing.

The bar was in the financial district in London, so we were closed on the weekends, which was really nice because you got to travel. And then at some point I was like, all right, I've got enough money. I'm going to get a euro bus pass, not even a ural because I had no money. And it was this really cool network of buses every day that left different cities across Europe and you hopped on and you hopped off and you just kind of met people and stayed in hostels and saw some things. things and that was that. What a cool experience. Yeah, it was very great. It was really great.

I'm really glad that I did it. And then, yeah, they moved to Boston after that and knocked out my master's degree. What's your master's in? Broadcast journalism. Okay. Yeah. And then... He has a master's.

In? Journalism. Nice. Where did you go? Where did you get your master's? U&T. Nice. I used to work out on the East End on Long Island in Montauk, waiting tables and, you know,

that kind of thing during the summers. and that last summer I stayed that last was that the I think that last summer is when I might have come out I had a girlfriend at the time and she's still a dear friend of mine in fact I just heard from her the other day she got she got our Christmas card

and she said it just makes me so happy to see you and your family and whatever else and I said it well it's because of you because she gross you turned me gay no come on that is very cool that you're still touch she so it was our last summer in montauk and one of my housemates had a friend visit and he was

gay and i was like oh crap um and he she came to me and she said i think his name was jason she said um jason asked me if you're gay and i was like what why would he ask that why would you when when you knew a gay guy was going to because he'd know you what yeah like he would know we have that like six that all that real one of those things they teach you at gay grooming is how to bought another one, right? No, I've always heard of Gaydar and stuff like that, but I wouldn't have thought that you'd actually be worried about detection. And I thought, as you were telling this story,

that you came out when you were a freshman, but I guess, you know. No, well, I kind of like out and out and like I was, you know, like I was dating guys and I dated this girl in college and it was kind of back and forth. You go a little nuts then when you went to Europe? Like, hell, nobody knows me here. You know what? No, because it's funny that you say that because I was actually just thinking about that recently. No, I didn't.

because remember that like there was no like internet or like where do you even find such stuff what year were you in uh so 96 okay so 96 and then i started uh yeah so 996 so this is like pre internet and you know whatever else um but anyway she she she said you know he asked me if you're gay and i said oh why why would he ask that and she said what should i have told him oh that's from your girlfriend yeah i was like wow and i thought you know what we can do this now or we can do this when we're dividing up assets and kids in 10 years so let's let's do it now and uh that was that that was the first person that i ever told wow yeah she's good people do you get a banner made or anything like mission accomplished you have to you have to kind of make it yourself at that point

because now you're gay yeah oh no my workload here is that we should have a party and everyone looks at you exactly oh get on it then get on it festive boy and then you're like well now i got to tell people and stuff so i i wasn't a total out situation i was kind of in i was back and forth a little bit until finally i mean i would give it up for thank i would give it up for lent it was my new year's resolution to not be gay i mean i would try and like you know like i'll go 60 days like you know and it just kind of kept on coming back and i was living with one of my fraternity brothers in Vermont that was my second broadcast job and at some point I remember he came to me and he was like dude I feel like there's something you need to tell me I was like no no I'm good I'm good

and he was like I just need you to know whatever it is you got to tell me I'm cool with it and I was like no no no and then ultimately I was like hey jigs up this is it and did anybody receive that information poorly um I don't know that anybody received it poorly um you know I think that everybody in my life did the best they could with the tools they had available to them at the time. I know that my parents were, you know, my mom's like, well, did you meet somebody? Like, this would be a lot easier for me to understand it. Like, you met somebody. And like, that's how you know. Like, it's kind of like being like, I want to be a nun, but I've never been to church. Yeah. And I was like, well, no, I haven't. But like, trust me, like I know. And she was like, well, frankly, we've known also. So. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the signs were there. That doesn't surprise me. The signs were there. You know, you talk about your kids.

Sure. And what do you think they may be? I guess it's just, and I know times change, and it seems like you've done a pretty good job of processing whatever was happening there, but it seems like you had a generally supportive upbringing, and yet still, like, it was this thing, like, that you couldn't just do. There was a, I don't know. I guess I just, I don't think about my own kids, but any kid, like, is there a way to make it

where it's not that is it just cultural is it just societal that because it's not quote normal it's just where you don't ever have to have a like because we're not asking like that's a sort that's how I was with alcohol right a thing that I knew in my head was like I would lay there this is wrong I've got to stop doing this yeah I hate this about myself and to have that grouped in with something that's part of you know who you are in your soul I don't right you're somehow thinking this is wrong I've got to get rid of it yeah well I was I was relentlessly bull lead as a kid as well, right? Like, I mean, people had, you know, it's weird to, to have something that other people have a name for and you don't, if that makes sense, right? I mean, people told me I was gay before I even knew that was what that was and they weren't saying it in a, hey, you're gay, let's hang out. Kind of it was like a very pejorative, you know, you knew that it was wrong. You knew that being different was not okay. You knew that you, you spent a lot of time hiding who you are, which, you know, is funny because on the back end of that, you know, I think, you that's why a lot of gay people grew up to be such overachievers, right? Because you spend

so much of your life proving that you're worth something, that you try and overachieve in decorating your home for the holidays, like throwing a great party, being an overachiever at work, like whatever, whatever all of those different things are, to show that you have value because you've been told for so long that who you actually are intrinsically is worthless. So you're saying that you think a higher percentage of gay people are overachievers than of the general? thousand percent so we should hire gay people if you want to get something done you hire a theater kid or a homosexual a gay autist i was going to say i'm going to hire a hire a gay well-acting

autistic kid yeah there you go this kind of makes me feel worse about myself though because i was bullied and called gay as a kid too but i didn't wasn't actually like you missed the off ramp i wasn't hiding this this thing i i just sucked duh it's it's a different world now right like i mean our kids have two dads like that's that's just that's just what it is i mean the other kids i don't there's going to be a time when our kids understand that that's not the norm for everybody right like they're starting to talk about who their crushes are although they won't tell us and i'm dying to know if it's a boy or a girl like what in your mind is because i'll be honest with you even as a successful well-adjusted gay man i think to myself god like i still want the easiest life for you

possible and that and that's not being gay right and these because these kids are your uh they're your dmate right you had somebody yeah yeah you had a surrogate so this is we met her you didn't adopt you did neither friend of mine that's right she was on the air with you at the rangers thing yeah at opening day that's right that's crazy um it won't be interesting someday when you just don't care because i actually started this conversation about because i want to leave through your career. Yeah. But then we got there and that is like an interesting thing.

But like you just would never ask, you know, if we had a female reporter in here or even a male, whatever, a male reporter and be like, all right, when did you first, you know, grab a boob and stuff? Like we don't do that. I know. Like we don't. But I think to get to the point where it is normal. When were you for sure?

You have people that are okay talking about it like this to make that the case. Yeah, probably. it is interesting though like you see from the son like your sons what you'd want for them and it makes total sense but it's like with let's say that you were uh let's say that you were a minority racially i think there's some level of if you have a child that's like i have a black son you would you want them to experience what you did and then like improve upon it for the future yeah whereas like i don't is that a thing in the gay community of like take this on and make it easy, you know, you don't hear that quite as much.

Not that either one of them is right or wrong, but, like, I think that there are, like, you know, people who want their kids to advance the cause of this or that, but it's like, you know, that's going to be, it's going to be a hard life. Well, and I think that there's also, listen, like, I, I'm not militant about my homosexuality. I guess that's, you know what I mean? Like, this is, like, it's a, it's a very fundamental part of who I am, but it's also a very small part of who I am, right? like, gosh, I hope that, you know, when people think about me, they don't, the first thing that

they think of isn't like, oh, that, that's a gay guy. Like, I mean, and not because I think that that's a good or a bad thing, but because I hope that there's 20 other qualities about myself that somebody could name off as well. Certainly would be in the top 10. I would be a fool to think that that's not, you know, something that people think of, but I hope that when they do think of that, it's in a more positive way, right? I mean, we're very matter of fact, I'm very matter of fact about my life. And it is what it is. There's nothing I can do to, change it, right? Trust me, I've tried. Um, so, uh, it's, I want my, I remember when I first started working at Fox, the very first day, I put my stuff on my desk and there was a picture of me and

Doug. And another reporter came over who no longer works here. And she said, who's that? And I said, that's my boyfriend. And she said, do they know you're gay? And I said, I bet you if they don't, they're about to. And then she asked how much I was getting paid. So the more important question. The more important was. Right. Um, but it's like, listen, this is, You know, it is, it is what it is. Like, I want my kids to know. Like, we have gay dad families that we hang out with. And we have straight families that, you know, that we hang out with, right?

But again, like, despite, you know, when people always talk about, well, aren't you concerned, like, you're two men, like, your children are going to automatically mirror that behavior and fall in love with men, even if they're not gay and whatever. And it's like, you know what? I look back into my own childhood. Every story we read in school was about a nuclear, you know, heterosexual family. every play, every TV show, every day, all of the characters, all of the heroes, all of the things. And yet somehow, despite all of that grooming, you know, I ended up liking boys, right? So it's really, it's just, it's a bit nonsensical when you think about it. Yeah, I've thought about that, too, in a sense of having daughters, and I think of representation then in media, you know.

And you didn't, now if we would talk to Blake's grandpa today, he'd say every show has gay, people in it and right the gay people on commercials like that's just a yeah an oddity if you're an old uh to see that on tv now but i'm sure growing up like do you have any memory i have one memory of somebody that was gay in media but i was too young to really understand the person i they weren't gay openly it was a an act billy crystal played a gay character on a sitcom mine if i'm thinking back the first two people that came to mind when you just asked me that were Jack Tripper from Three's Company who had to pretend he was gay to live with two women. And then Monroe on Too Close for Comfort.

Do you remember that show? Jim J. Bullock played like the downstairs neighbor who the parents seemed to be super okay with him hanging out with their daughters, like with no issue. Okay. Did they, that was a gay person and you're a kid like, whoa. I, again, I think it was an implication. This is the late 70s, early 80s, so I don't know that anybody was, you know. Saying. Right.

So it was kind of like, hey, like this is, you know. But speaking of that, and it's similar, like a black family might want more representation, all that kind of stuff. Do you have a gay Santa on your, because they do have black Santa? Our gay Christmas character is the dentist from the land of misfit toys. Oh, that's our guy. Yeah. That's our guy. I, Paige and I have been talking about this late.

She's like, you're out of your mind, not gay. And I was like, that guy is gay. Oh, my God. It's so, how much more? I mean, he is gay. The overachiever, right? Overachiever, the hair. I mean, the whole thing, right?

Yeah, no, be friends, all the other misfits. I mean, come on. Gets bullied. Gets bullied. I mean, the whole thing, right? Like stalls. Yeah, love stuff. So you get your master's degree.

Back, back to the story. Then you first job, like, what happens after that? So I applied to about 92 different television stations to try and get one job. And you're sending out tapes and resumes? VHS tapes. Literal tapes. Literal VHS tapes, shipping them. I used to order tapes.

You could buy them online or I would order like free VHS tapes from like infomercials and tape over them to save money. Wow. And I now I was swinging for the fences. I mean, I remember my first job I was applying to like Philly and like, I mean, top 20 markets thinking like you never know like maybe I'm the guy I was not the guy um I got one job offer it was in Jeff city Missouri uh I went sight unseen uh I drove out there and I remember the news I said to the news director how will I know because it was I'm from New York where but we have street addresses like seven like you know and he was like oh we're 362 dash 14 FM 14

and I was like wow that's a lot of letters and numbers I said how will I know where that is? And he said, you can't miss us. We're the only thing on the street that's not a horse farm. And I said, okay. And he was right. KRC TV 13, uh, mid Missouri, which I didn't love. I felt central Missouri would have been a better name for the place, but whatever. Yeah. Even before things being called mid, mid, Missouri kind of sounds like nowhere between here and there, right? Uh, I made $12,500 a year, um, and was a one man band, you know, shot, wrote, reported.

I was a nightside general assignment reporter covering, you know, crime and murder and, you know, some features and whatever else. And the way that I learned to be a better reporter was, luckily, because we were in the middle of the state, they would rebroadcast the news out of Kansas City and St. Louis at like 1 o'clock in the morning after I got off work. And I would stay up late every night and watch what they were doing in bigger markets and learn how to tell stories, learn how to use Nat Sound, learned how to, you know, edit things and, you know, volunteer to do projects. and so on and so forth. And, you know, ultimately that got me a ticket out of there. What was your dream? I want to be an anchor. I want to be on the nightly news.

You know, CBS News. I think that not CBS. I think that the dream was to go home at some point. You know, back to New York. All my family is there. That didn't end up happening. But honestly, you know, when I look at it now, I'm kind of living my dream, you know?

I mean, I am really lucky to have earned the responsibility of creating my own content, right? I mean, the shows that I work on have very little oversight. I mean, it's like with you guys, right? Like, you have ideas that go from your brain to people's podcasts, right? I mean, that's about the process for me as well. And, like, how wonderful that is, you know, the days of... Oh, I agree. I think we're living the dream now.

I love this. But my dream was to be a baseball play-by-play announcer coming out of college. I feel like there's time for that. No? No, I mean, it was, I'm saying. But as I now see the world, I would have to go to all the games. Right. I'd have to stay until the end.

You'd have to travel, get away from your family. Really the same stuff happens all the time. Yeah. You just ask the same questions to the manager before, you know, whatever. It's very repetitious. I remember when I was working in Jeff City, speaking of baseball, that was when there was a big controversy about like how much certain teams got to pay their players. And the Yankees obviously were a big, you know, deal. So they were coming into Kansas

City to play the Royals and the sport, one of the sports anchors, she said, well, I want to go because the Yankees are going to be there and I want to do a story on this, the disparity between the salaries. And I said, well, I'll go and I'll shoot. I'll be your photographer. And she said, okay, great. And we went and we were trying to get interviews. I remember we were in the, we were in the elevator with Joe Torrey. And I had no idea who he. was. So we kind of missed that opportunity. And then we were in the dugout during batting practice. She was

trying to get one of the Yankees to talk to her and she couldn't. And then I found one and I was so excited because I was like, hey, do I mind talking to us or whatever? And she was like, yeah, you know, so he came over and I said, hey, this guy, this player is going to talk to you. And she looked at me and she said, that's the bat boy.

He was wearing a uniform. He had a uniform on. I was like, you're more of a Yankee than I am. So that didn't get the interview that day. But got out of there and went to Burlington, Vermont. That was my next stop after that. Burlington, Vermont. Meet Bernie?

I did meet Bernie many times. I used to go on bus trips with Bernie Sanders to Canada. We used to take senior citizens to Canada to buy prescription drugs. That's incredible. And do stories about how much cheaper it was. How do you treat you? Nice. Good guy.

Nice guy. Because I used to... I mean, he was like the mayor of Burlington at one point. And this is whatever. I know if you don't like the guy, you don't like. like the guy but I've seen video it's literally burning like dedicating a tree in downtown like so burly there's like that's what he's doing he's like we're out here we planted all these trees it's just like a community it's just weird to see because now you know he's probably anyways

i mean this is i was there 99 to 2001 yeah um so uh Howard dean was the governor uh I was probably partying a little more than I needed to I used to fall asleep we used to have a roundtable once a week with Howard Dean and there's a more video than needs to be of like a tight shot of Howard Dean and then my photographer would like pan over to me and I would be like sleeping like two seats like away from the

governor of Vermont so yeah a lot of late nights in Montreal when I was living in in Burlington. A lot of drinking? Not so much drinking more out partying. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But no, I was there for two years and that's kind of where during sweeps I would do like consumer stories because I really kind of loved that kind of thing. I loved how creative it was, the idea to help people. I remember there was a news director that I had there and there was this girl who had been found dead overnight and I was supposed to go cover the story and I did and I found her grandmother like in the phone book. I mean, you just started calling people with the same last name back in those days. And I found her and she said we could come over and she was sitting there in her living room with this like framed

senior picture of her granddaughter who had, you know, she had just found out died and we were sitting there talking to each other. And as I'm asking her questions, I'm noticing like her eyes are welling up and her chin is starting to quiver. And all I could think was like, if you start crying, that's going to be the best video that we can get all day. And I was like, that doesn't feel great. So I was like, maybe a more creative use of my time to help people and be an advocate for our viewers would be more at my alley. So that's when I kind of made the shift to full-time consumer in investigative reporting. In what city? That was in Burlington and that's what got me my job, my full-time consumer job with Fox in Greensboro, North Carolina, which is actually an

interesting story because I got, I was on Fire Island with some friends when I got the call about that job and it was the end of the summer of 2001 and they had made me an offer to come to North Carolina. And I was excited about it. And then September 11th happened. And the news director called and she said, I'm so sorry, there's a hiring freeze. We can't hire you anymore. And I say, gosh, I really like, I mean, you kind of already, I gave notice and you made the offer and whatever. And she said, I would really love to have you. I think you're a great fit. I think you're a great talent. I think you have a lot of potential. But we just can't get around it with Fox. We cannot hire anybody anymore. I said, okay. And she called me back a couple of days later. And she said,

you know, I really like you and I'm going to let me see what I can do here because technically we did make a verbal offer to you and she called whoever she needed to call and somehow she got my paperwork through and they hired me. And I look back at that moment. I mean, she didn't owe me anything, but she did that for me and then I took that job and then a month later I met the man that I'm now married to. And I think like, gosh, had you not taken the extra minute to do something kind for another human being, the trajectory of my life would be totally different at this point. Gratitude. Yeah.

So how long were you there? I thought when you were saying that, you're like, but then a month later I got offered this job in Dallas and I felt really bad when I took it. No, I was there for two years. I was there for a two-year contract, which was great. I mean, I was at WGHP in North Carolina, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, High Point, and it was probably the finest television station I've ever worked at. It was a huge community involvement, great television station, wonderful management.

it was just a really great I think some of the best television comes from markets of those size I think it was like 46 or something like those markets where people are still hungry enough to be working to get out but also talented enough to deserve to be there is a really magical time in television

I think that it's really it was a really cool space to be and to learn to teach that's where I started teaching I got my first job teaching at a university there at North Carolina A&T I was a journalism professor and then got the, you know, then of course

the Dallas job came open and it was like, gosh, if you can, I mean, I was 28 years old and I was like, you know, if you can get to Dallas at 28. I mean, that's a big deal. And I came here and interviewed. And I remember I came for the interview. It was Doug's birthday, April 21st. I flew out for the interview and spent one day here.

I remember one of the producers here. She said, oh, where did you stay last night? I said, oh, I just flew in this morning at like a 4 a.m. fly and she said oh you must work for fox already and i said i do and she said let me guess you're going home today as well and i said i am and she said yep um and then i heard nothing from them until maybe august of that year and the news director called and said we have a spot for you if you'd like to come and of course i said yeah i would love to come and uh that was uh 2003 so is this then you stopped making tapes and resumes and sending them once you work for a little while

I did. There was a time when, you know, so that was 2003, then I was kind of cutting my teeth here for a little bit. And then in 08, I suggested that we kind of self-sindicate, for lack of a better term, my consumer content by contributing live in a weekly basis to our other Fox properties. So that kind of brought me to a different level, you know, with the company. And then there were a couple of times where I was like, you know what, I think it's time to go home. And we looked at going home. And it just didn't, the opportunity. that I wanted just didn't quite line up the way that I needed it to. My husband's career kind of started taking off at that point. I mean, he was delivering pizzas when we met, so that's a very transferable job. But then ultimately, he became very ingrained in his professional career. And then, honestly, once we got married and had kids, I mean, now it's, you know, maybe there'll be some movement locally, but I think that we're here for this is where we live now. Put your roots down.

So what year did the iPhone come up? 2007. 2007. Yep. I want to play an old Steve Novello. This is one of my favorite stories. You know this? I'm assuming it's the crazy woman with the $16,000 in cash.

Yeah. And it's the guy that sold his spot in line. Speaking of people, I discovered. You discovered Mark Robillet? Apparently. Because he would later, when Dan and Jake first started doing it. a show together. Blake booked

Mark Rubier to be on our show and he was somewhat well known in Dallas but not really much outside there. Yeah. Right? He had just kind of moved to New York and started doing some are you aware of what he is on online now? He was like playing Coachella a couple of years

ago. He's like a big DJ. He's huge now. He'll do like Glastonbury. Yeah. But when we first had him on it was like 2020. He was doing this. COVID streams. Yeah, that's where he started to, yeah. I mean, when I met him, he was sleeping outside the Apple store, hoping to get an iPhone. Right. Anyway, he ended up doing our theme song. Oh, you're kidding. As we had him on and he, you know, did it live on the air there. And then we worked and used that for years until we left the ticket. And then they're like, well, we own this

now. So we don't have. They play it every day. So it made a lot of sense. They, they don't play it ever. And it's just in storage. And they're like, yeah, but we own it. As long as you don't play. That's really the whole thing. It's really weird. Even when, like, what's his name? We were talking to somebody the other day who had, like, a podcast. He had, oh, Kirk Henderson had a chain, like, for the athletic podcast. Like, let me have the podcast name.

Is this going to hurt the New York Times somehow? But anyway, but for those who don't know, let's play it now. And then we'll remark on Steve. This was Steve reporting doing a consumer reporting. There are those who try. I'm buying $100,000 worth of iPhones. $100,000? Correct. I'm going to sell them all on eBay.

And those who try to buy. I've been here since 6 o'clock this morning. While Mark Rivalier spent the last 12 hours waiting in line for an iPhone at the AT&T store on Oak Lawn in Dallas. So how much what it costs to buy your position in the front of the line? 15 minutes before the 6 o'clock launch after others spent hours. Who are since 1230s. And hours. I'm in line for our friends.

Waiting patiently. I guess we're going to water away from the cameras. How about that? This woman rolled up with 16 grand in cash in hand. Seven. And bought Mark's number one spot in line for $800. She gave me $800. Money talks.

A worthwhile investment, she thought, because... I don't know somewhere on eBay, so it's all right. Yet when the doors finally opened... I'm first. Yep, she was first. But maybe instead of stopping at the bank, she should have stopped to read the rules. Her plan to buy out the store? Sorry. Can you buy more than one cent?

Unfortunately, we can only sell one per customer. AT&T imposed a one phone per customer rule to make sure that they were enough to go around. That's a serious package, folks. That is a serious package. As for Mark and his $800 spot, turns out he didn't really need it. There were three people in his party, and they only only... wanted to buy two phones. Pleasure we have a little signature leather case here.

So he's stocking up, a phone with all the trimmings, and the knowledge that there are some things. I don't think she was too happy with you. I don't think she was, and on top of that, she didn't get a free phone. That money can't buy. Steve Novi-Ello. I shouldn't you've got the short end of the stick there, America. Fox 4 News.

I'm so glad you pulled out. That is one of my favorite stories that I have ever done. It's one of my favorites. It's super well-crafted. I use that story still to this day when I teach young journalists how to tell a story. Like it could have ended without her getting screwed. And it's still like, this is a nice story that set the scene of what the line was outside. But there's like, but wait.

And then Mark Rubby is the perfect character for it with a little sly grinch grin to the camera on America. Yeah. I mean, we get, I always get asked a few questions about the story. One, did we know they were going to be there? And, of course, we didn't. I mean, that day, I mean, I had been upset. I was all over good day doing live shots and talking to people at the Apple store. And at the last minute, because we were trying to get access to the phone, because you remember, no one had ever seen one, right?

Because it's 2007. And AT&T, which was the exclusive carrier at the time, said, you can come to this one store. We'll have an executive with one phone that you can take pictures of, but it's embargoed until the 6 o'clock launch. And we said, fine. And we went. And we had shot an entire story about. the phone and like how many gigs and what an app is and like what does it boring right and then this woman rolls up in the Porsche cayenne navy blue I will

never forget it with a biscuit interior and I was like holy crap like this we shot that story in about 12 minutes and it was on the air two hours later I mean it was it has a beginning a middle and an end right we transition from outside to inside with the opening and the gnat sound of the you know of the steel door and whatnot and we knew the entire time that there was a limit on how many phones you could buy that's so good as you're talking to her as i'm talking to this woman and listening to her plan i'm thinking to myself you are about to get screwed lady um and as if that's not bad enough the gold here is that mark like mark is the kid who is doing the right thing he's out there sleeping on the street wants to get an iphone saved

up his money you know he's playing by the rules you know the fact that he sells her what is essentially an extra spot so that he gets the money and the phone was just golden it was such a great moment is loading up with accessories he doesn't need give me that i mean lost that and they're at the cash wrap literally next to each other he's at one register she's the next so while she's being told he's like and I'll take this and I'll take this and how about one of these and a leather case and this and I mean it was it was so awesome it was such a great story biscuit another word you learned at the as soon as I said it I was like oh that's going to come back to bite me in the ass I love that well that's good stuff man we've taken a lot of your

time on this day what are you doing so generous with this is past us and past you What are you doing in the future from today, but the current time when people are first seeing this on December 22nd? I am celebrating Christmas with my family. So I'm at this point with my extended family and our kids, and we've just come back from seeing the Rockettes in Manhattan. And we, yeah, you got a big smile on your face there. Jake gave a tepid review to the Rockettes. Well, more just the Rockette. I didn't complete the class.

I only grew up in part of the class. I went to Manhattan with the wife and seven-year-old daughter last weekend. And? I mean, it's magic. Yeah, it's magic. Absolute magic. We did Rockettes, which I'm just not, you know, I don't know. But it's, they liked it.

But the whole vibe of just Manhattan, like we have a buddy who lives in Connecticut. He came down with his two kids. And we did like the Sacks windows, did Bright Park Christmas market. I mean, it was, it was magic, man. It was unbelievable. Didn't get stabbed. Didn't get stabbed. They didn't seize any of my assets for the state or whatever, the communists.

God. With the new mayor. Yeah, yeah. No, it was just magic, dude. We were there 48 hours and it was like perfect. All the Christmas. You know, that was my mother's profession when I was growing up. She was a rockette?

Wow. Yep. So that, like, to me, like taking our kids with her to see the Christmas show at the music hall is like super magic that's an out of nowhere uh fun fact it it is out of nowhere and i hate to quit being like a stereotype gay guy but that's kind of like finding out that like chador sanders dad was dion like his mom was the stage for like i mean he was a theater okay i have a really quick superstar because i know i know i'm we're taking a beach of this time here so when i was five when i was in fifth grade i went to sleep away camp for the first time and uh you know

like it is what it is right um liked it enough until visiting day My parents came, and it was visiting day, and I was like, you got to take me home. Like, you can't leave. Like, you cannot leave me here. And they're like, Stephen, like, we can't take you home. Like, my dad had a job. My mom, who was a rock cat at the time, they rarely have a show in the summer. It's always the Christmas show.

She'd done the Super Bowl and a whole bunch of other stuff, but never a Christmas show, right? Or never a summer show. That summer, they had Disney Summer Magic at Radio City Music Hall. Five shows a day with a movie in between each show, you know, the intermission, whatever. And she was like, Stephen, we cannot take you home. I said, you have to take me home. I can't stay here. I don't want you to leave you. Leave me here. If you loved me, you wouldn't. I mean, all of this stuff, right? She was like, Stephen, we cannot. I'm working. Your father's working. We have no one to take care of you during the day. It's a logistical thing. It's not because we don't love you, but we just, we cannot take you with us. I said, Stephen, I'm at the music hall every day. What are you going to do? Sit in the audience for five shows a day, six days a week. And I was like, packed bags in the car, hung in the horn. It was the best gay summer. Oh, no, no, not take your son to work, they?

I knew that show left right and center, like by the end of the end of the summer. She used to sneak me into the auditorium, find me a seat, and then when the stage show would be over and the Rockheads would finish dancing, I would walk out, meet her by the stage door, you know, on 51st Street or whatever street it was, and just feel like a million bucks waiting. Then we'd go to lunch and go shopping between shows and stuff, and then we'd come back and do it again, like three, four, five times a day. Sounds incredible.

It was the best. These other kids out here shooting BB guns or something. What are you doing? Like, enjoy your lanyard loser. Thank you so much, Steve. You're the best. Merry Christmas. This is a subscriber-a-thon.

Is that what's happening here? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What are we doing here? Kind of where we're raising money for the North Texas Food Bank. Oh, okay, great. And if we can get some other subs in the process, we will do that. I love it. Great cause. Subscribe to our YouTube channel, even though that's free.

We'll donate $5 for every new subscription we get on this day to the North Texas Food Bank. And if you subscribe on Patreon or Substack, we'll donate even more. And same thing. If you get an annual, we'll donate like 50 bucks. So it's, yeah. And we'll just invite people to go subscribe to your podcast, too. What's the VIP here? I mean, that's a big payback.

What am I getting if I'm a VIP on your substack or Patreon? That is a, what are you getting as the VIP or what is the North Texas food bank? Well, they're getting $2.50, but like what about the VIP? We hold quarterly meetings on Zoom. We have shareholder meetings. Oh, is that? You're being serious. It's a quarterly.

QBR, quarterly business reviews. Sounds like grooming to me. Maybe. Maybe for a small fee. And any special events, they get first crack. We had a Christmas party recently. We had to the gym zone. And then the Christmas party that we, yeah, we ended up, you know, throwing a really nice Christmas party and invited them in person to that.

Very nice. Yeah, cool. Awesome. Yeah, no, you gave us a shout to as well. Yeah, Jenny and Chandra and I, no gifts, please, our parenting podcast. It's a good time. It's a really fun. It's a fun show.

A lot of great topics, a lot of real, real stuff and useful information. And it's pretty funny as well, I have to say. Well, Steve, we appreciate you. Hey, always good to see you guys. Merry Christmas. Back to the telethon. Just you clap. Our first ad here will be for Early Bird CBD Gummies.

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that there'll be snow but have a cup of cheer have a highly jolly Christmas when you're walking down the street Say hello to friends you know And everyone you meet It's the sub-a-thon How you guys feeling?

Are we Two-thirds, three-fourths? Three-eighths? Three-fourths. Three-fourths, compromise. Three-fits. I feel pretty good, dude. So, God, what, you get youth around

And all of a sudden you... Six-seven, bro. No, I'm shoddy Sham did that He worked in a 6-7 this week I don't think we're going to get to That's a shame That we can't get to audio

From yesterday's game Maybe we'll Too much Before the day is over But listen to these two You forget the wilderness That awaits us The next two weeks

We're going to break off a stream I'm just saying When we get back What are we going to On the fifth We're going to go Remember that game on the 21st Brad and Babe are funny

no matter the weather. They really are. We're going to need stuff. We'll be knee deep in star season. We need Brad and Babe. You're right. Yeah. So let's, okay, before we even get a tray update,

let's welcome our next in-studio guest. It is. There we go. My daughters. Yay. The roast twins, as they are known on Internet. I thought you were going to play like a clip of them. limit four or something.

Oh, I certainly could do that. As an intro. We do have them, oh yeah, maybe we'll do peeing, pooping dinosaur before the show is over. Because that elicited a drop that was played at the American Airlines Center for years to come. Anyway, this is Eden and Ava. Hello. They are college girls. They are in town for the holiday season.

And how's everything going? super how are we feeling really good we're very excited did we watch a couple of christmas specials to get prepared for this program yeah okay a few meaning two at least two yes eden was on the game stream Eden has been on the game stream yeah it's been on the show before yeah with her boyfriend to uh discuss the savannah savannah savannah bananas Eden has been going through the last few minutes A very difficult time Yes

Because she walks in here And she loses an earring Yeah It's gone, I think You have like 12 of them, right? How many earrings do you have? Hey You have a very

Very decorated ear Not really I got one, two, three, four, five, six No seven, y'all Okay, seven We're done No six seven Yeah

Um, which I... It's here. You, you, you knew, you knew it was in your... If somebody has a magnet. No, I don't have... If we had an extra two hours. If somebody has a magnet in two hours. Like a big giant, uh, breaking bad type magnet.

You know what's funny is like, she's facing this problem. I have no, can you go to, uh, wall greens and get any... I don't know what it takes to replace an earring, so I don't know, like, the level of stress involved. Does it have to match one on the other side or no? No. Okay. I just need to, like, put something in there or else the hole could close up.

That's the scary part. If you were about your finger, it's jamming in there. My whole finger. Don't you? So girls don't. Are people doing gauges anymore? Do girls? Cardilage?

Our era. Gage? No, no. Gage is a cartilage. Well, yeah, when we were, you know, we did got the hoop. I don't know who we is. Like our age. Do people not do that anymore?

Like the massive gauged earing? Not really. Yeah, I think that I haven't seen it. Like in your earlobe? Like the giant? Yeah. Yeah. It'll just keep stretching.

So like in the 2000s, people started like putting gauges in their earlobes and they just... I know what you're talking about. Okay, I thought you said I don't know. They'd be like dollars, like silver dollar size. Yeah. Horrible look. As a kid, I'd only really see it at like hot topic.

It was a hot topic. Yeah. The amusement park line. That's what I think is interesting about you having kids. I want to see everything, you know, not to say everything's cyclical, but you're like, all right, what culture comes back? Bell bottoms came back. And I just like, I love the idea of a future where kids are gauging their lobes again.

It's the dumbest looking. What do you guys think of the hoop thing through the nose, like the bull thing? Septim? Yeah. You're on board? It's not for me. It looks good on some people. Did you guys see the other day in Hard Knocks, the most Siriani thing ever when they showed

Siriani's highlights? No, what? He's a double hoop ear. in college. He pops his helmet off. They're like, is he rocking a hoops? I did not know that. It makes sense, though.

You think Shadi was a ring guy? A hundred percent. He's from fucking Florida. He's, yeah, Shottie's got studs, for sure. And, of course, a tattoo. Faith family football. That says Faith family football. Where do you girls stand on tattoos?

Not currently tattooed, correct? No, no tattoos. I don't think I want one. Interesting. I don't think so. I mean, we'll see, maybe. A piercing you can take out a tattoo, that's forever. And I feel like everything I like this year, I hate the next year.

Would you get one of those lip ones that fade in, like, three years? Such as a piercing. That's very self-aware. Yeah, but it hurts for less time. Well, I'm glad they're this age because I feel like if they were, what would it be, 10 years older, they would have tramp stamps. Like, didn't everybody around some area era, when they were, like little, little. Oh, yeah. All the girls that we knew at the office or whatever are getting

tramp stamps. And then now they're... Yeah, that's what they would call them, too. They would go in and ask for that. Well, no, but we would, but it became commonly known as that, right? For sure. Like the wife beater t-shirt? Yeah. I don't know. Can we even say that that was the way that was referred to? Yeah, I don't know. One of the first shows you and I ever did was at a benefit for domestic violence survivors, and I said it. And I found out pretty quickly then there's at least one place you're not supposed to say it. They came up afterward. What?

It's just a thing. I didn't hit him. Yeah, no. That's why Hillary lost, right? Yeah. Because he yelling at you about what you said. Because you're an ally. You don't hit.

No. He'll hit dudes, though. Oh, okay. So, yeah, my daughters are here to talk about some Christmas shows that we watched. But we have to check in on Trey Cam, Qualis. is sponsoring this throughout the day. So look at that nice thing that we have in front of you, girls. That is the gingerbread house.

You saw me with it yesterday at home. No way we expected Trey to be able to pull that off. Knocked it out of the park. How long did it take him? Less than an hour. Yeah. Like he rolled. It was like a little machine.

I was like, damn. So we took a break before we gave him the Lego set. And it turns out, as T.C. said, we're learning a lot. here in this first run-through, the first ever dumb zone sub-a-thon. And we've learned that, Trey, we should have given him this at 7 a.m. And seeing where he is right now. You would have given him out. Now, I feel really bad because I feel like, Trey, can you hear us?

Can we talk to Trey? Is that possible? Oh, he's out at the Zoom? Okay. Well, I wanted to inform him that if he wants, he should get out. I feel like we're killing his back. Yeah, so Dan thought this was a good idea. And now Dan's back is starting to secondhand hurt looking at train.

Yeah. And he's hunched over. He's been like that for like three hours or two. You want to let him just do what he wants. If he wants to lift it all up onto a table or, I don't know, should we let him quit? His legs are dead. We did walk by him on the way in here, and it was very sad. And we did not. We did not.

I did not say hello. I wave. He looks so excited. I think he's having fun. Did he give any recognition? Oh, like he would, dude. To you two? I think he knows us.

Do you guys remember the time? Okay, since he can't hear us. Perfect. He used to watch our dogs. I mean, he still will if we go on vacation or something. And he'd certainly break something. It might be the towel rack in my office. It might be a flower pot.

Oh, a flower pot. that said, you know, Happy Mother's Day written by a four-year-old, one of you two, but he broke it. And one year it was the washing machine, if you recall. We had to get a new washer dryer set because Trey, he's like, calls me while we're on vacation. He's like, um, does your washer usually work? Because, like, yeah. Tends to.

Poor guy. So the one time we came home, do you guys remember this? Because you were much younger. but we came home and Tray was still there. You know, he stays at our house for a week and I'll be like, hey, we're going to be home Saturday about 4 o'clock or something. Just to let him know, you can let the dogs out like at 10 a.m.

And then we'll be home by 4. Pretty much your day's done. Yeah. Well, he was still there. And then he, like, we brought our luggage in and he's still there. I do recall this. And then we're getting our stuff together.

and, like, he's just sitting there. Not moving? And I was just like, I mean, he was, like, talking, how was your trip and all this? He was missing a social cue. And I was just like, then I had to go up to him and say, dude, why don't you bolt? Like, you don't, what are you doing?

Why are you still? Was there, no, there wasn't a confusion over, like, payment. No, no, you know. Yeah. I'm sure it wasn't that. So, anyway. That's not surprising. But social cues, yeah, or not his specialty.

Neither are Legos, apparently. He's what? He's good. He doesn't want to move. He doesn't want to move. That's dedication. He isn't shaped now. He's young. He's sprightly. He's not like you. It hurts. Yeah, it does hurt to look at him.

Can we give away another book real quick? Sure. Gloryhole in the chat. We're giving away Brandon Aubrey books. Brandon Aubrey. Who knows who Brandon Aubrey is? I know who Brandon Aubrey is. Eden, who's Brandon Aubrey? He's very important to this show.

Eden watched a game stream with us. She has no idea who Brandon Aubrey is. Very, very important. Ava, who's Brandon Aubrey? The kicker for the Cowboys. That's right. And he's the kicker for the Cowboys. And he's like the best in the league. And he's the best in the league.

And he's real friends with... You guys didn't let me finish. Dan McDowell. Yeah. He wrote a children's book. Oh. And we are giving away some autographed children's books. Autographed by Brandon Aubrey, not just like some by Trey.

Okay. You got a few of those in the back, I'm sure. I want one from Trey. So... We can arrange that. The girls are here. We have two things that we watch. Have you guys seen the Charlie Brown special lately?

I watched it last year. I think, yeah, we watched it last year. Does Brooks like that? I don't think so. Okay. Why not? Animation's not up to his par, I guess. I don't know.

He just didn't stick with it. He likes Rudolph. He has a four-year-old that is, like, competitive at Halo. And, like, he can, like, game. So, like, he's going to look at Charlie Brown and use a slur. Yeah, I was going to say, where's the slur? Yeah. Yeah, I think you guys met him.

He's a good kid. Great kid. Just advanced. Very, very advanced. He would help my wife solve her internet problems. Right. Yeah, he's squatting, too. He's great.

Anyway, let's first review Charlie Brown, because we watched that together the other night. We can roll through this one. We'll do a pre-recorded bit, and then we'll do it's a wonderful life, because Jake just watched that last night, too. I did. For the first time? For the first time, ever. Okay, Charlie Brown review overall.

Because these are things I made them watch growing up. This is what I always wonder and how much of it will stick and will they make their kids watch this or be like, no, this sucks. And I only watched it because it was the thing that was on. Every year, there was like four things that were on. And Charlie Brown was one. Rudolph was one, Frosty was one, and whatever. And then it's like, it feels like that was from the 60s until the 90s.

And then in the 90s, they were like, hey, what if we started making new Christmas stuff? That's when Shrek and all this other stuff. And now they do new Christmas stuff all the time. They have a Shrek Christmas special. They do? Yeah. We've seen it. Oh, okay.

But Elf, the movie. But, okay. Movies have always, but I don't know. It feels like the. TV specials unless I was whatever the point is let's review Charlie Brown it was like made in 1965 or something um just any any thoughts you can definitely tell it's made by a guy who only works with three panels at a time because if you go through it you can like pick out the the little parts that are like the comics that he must have just like thrown in there like if you count the

beats you can go one two three and sometimes they just like run it over and over again like they they do that with uh schroeder and lucy on the piano they just do like a couple of comics in a row and then they move on and it's like okay not really plot relevant but i don't know if that's what we're here for we're here for a little fun special but my first thought watching this was how is that boy so dirty how who is letting him out of the house like that who is abusing this child I think it's like the easiest signal for poor. Yes, that's, what's in my notes is pick-pin the poor kid in school. Pores are like dirt.

We can't show you. Because you always knew the poor kid, right? Oh, yeah, and they typically are dirtier. Yeah. So the hot girl didn't want to be hooked up with the poor kid in the play. Well, it'll mess up her naturally curly hair. Right. Right.

My thing is, how old are these kids? Linus sucks his thumb and has. a blanket yeah yeah Charlie Brown like well I know the order goes like Sally Linus Lucy and Charlie Brown are like on the same level but like Linus is younger Linus is younger than Lucy and Lucy and Lucy and Charlie Brown at the same age but what age is that like seven eight seven eight I feel like Lucy is like four and then Linus has to be like six or the number above that yeah whatever and six point five right perhaps Six and a half.

Do you guys hate the six-seven thing? Well, I'm a little above the age range for that one. Okay. It was funny for our age, like, five months ago. No. Maybe your age. Oh, damn, they're different generations from each other. It's 21, I'll tell you that.

No, it didn't. It didn't skip your Instagram feed. I'll tell you that. It did. No way. Yes, it did. It was funny for like four minutes five months ago. Who else didn't laugh?

you're asking the wrong crowd we know i'm not asking like it i'm asking the kids at home okay i'm certain you guys find it hilarious but you'd be very proud to know if he hasn't told you this my daughter is walking around at school and anything that kids are into that they think is cool like that phrase she tells them like that's ruining your brain she's a real buzzkill brain rot yeah right warrior she will walk up be like oh you've been on your tab it a long time rot in your brain. That's so

good. She's making a lot of friends. This is like until like two months ago. New age SJW. Yeah, you fight the tablet. So Charlie Brown, it does seem like a very adult theme that his problem is that he feels especially sad, ironically here in this most joyous happy time of

year. Yeah. Which a lot of people do. Yes. But you wouldn't think six year olds or seven year olds are dealing with this problem though. I see what you did there. Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. No, but you It's just a Charles Schultz

Here's a deal He writes a comic about kids Not adults So whatever he's feeling The adult theme He's just putting it in Charlie Brown Definitely a self-insert character There yeah

He's like everyone hates me And everyone else is like yeah we hate you Yeah but it's just an odd thing Everybody calls him stupid Affirming that Yeah Which I also think is weird Because at least there was an era

My wife was part of this When you girls were You know four years old you're not allowed to say the word stupid. We're not allowed to say that today. You think that went away when we were four? Come on. You think we've aged out of that one?

Let's walk you over to the TV and sit you down in front of a fun cartoon where they just berate this kid the whole half hour. The 50s and 60s Disney comics hammer the word idiot. And that's one that we can't say, right? But Cruella, when she said, you idiots. That's what I mean. You learn idiot. You learn the word hate.

I hate you from movies. You know, it doesn't typically come up at home anymore. Little kids hating things is so funny, though. It's so insurious. Because you know they mean it with their whole heart. That's all they know is the hate. I noted no black characters and I feel that. I noted that too.

I noted they only got woke a couple years later when they had Franklin to the Thanksgiving one in 73. This one. Oh, did you look that up when the? No, I just looked at the dates on the. when we looked up Charlie Brown. Okay. It just shows the dates on. That makes sense.

I was wondering. Was there criticism that, hey. They probably didn't, what? You think people were woke? I think they just did it because society was getting more progressive. Or maybe Franklin didn't exist as a character back then? I don't know. Okay.

Who knows how old they are, but they were old enough to go to the tree lot and buy a tree? He could be Jewish. Yeah, I don't know, man. because I, in my, the way that the history has been explained to me when the time that this is taking place, six and seven year olds, damn it, they like had jobs almost. You know, my grandparents talk like that. Yeah. So it's like a seven year old going to a tree lot. I'm like, I don't know, weren't they going to war? Okay. So you might have actually said, hey, go get me a pack of cigarettes and grab a tree on your way. Like for real, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To flash forward to it's a wonderful

life he has a job and he's like sick yeah yeah he's got an important job he was like running it he was saving lives it's crazy that they're poisoning people hey no spoiler it it just feels too okay yeah we're going to get to there very quick so it just feels like to me at least it was illogical um i didn't really at the end understand the meaning of christmas just because he said a few things from the bible what does that mean i i really took issue with that because linus he's like What's the meaning of Christmas? Linus goes up. He says his little speech.

He's like, okay. Then he goes out with the tree. He thinks back to Linus's speech. It was so important that we have to flash back to it and hear the whole thing again while he's standing next to Snoopy's little house. Then he gets one ornament, puts it on the tree immediately he gives up. He's just like, oh, brother. And the one ornament topples that tree. Yes.

And you're telling me the one ornament. knocks this little twig tree. So, but that same tree, so he gave up, he walks away, he's dejected, because he feels he killed the tree. Then, yeah, the kids come over and fix up the tree and, like, that's the meaning of Christmas. So I don't understand what the point of Linus's whole little God thing was. But they also fix up the tree with, like, they added 100 ornaments. Yeah. Yet somehow this tree that could not hold the weight of one ornament.

Sure, now has the structural integrity of it. And then they all sing. If you add one ornament here and one ornament here, perhaps it balances out. Ah, okay. Well, maybe they're right to yell that you're stupid, Charlie Brown, because he couldn't figure that out and he gave up immediately. Yes. He is.

Yes. Well, he kind of, he lives a bad life. Everyone hates him. Maybe it's his fault, but everyone hates him and that's a sad life to live. But I feel like when we get to it, it's a wonderful life. Like it or not, it's very direct in its messaging, almost too much so. Like you'll want to remember this later. for the important part of the movie.

Oh, really? But with this, it's like he learns the lesson after they read the Bible verse, which I don't understand. And then the tree thing happens, which is, I gave up, I ruined a tree just like I ruined everything else. And then everyone else builds. Are they trying to just do the, hey, your community will help you the point of Christmas's community and just not sticking the landing?

I don't see what the point of the verse was if that was the meaning. I think he's just maybe not good at expanding past three panels. I was going to say, didn't you say, like, they can't move them around at all? Like, it's super difficult to do more than three? What do you mean? Well, if they just have three panels for his whole... Is that like comic? Like, in a comic strip?

Is that what that means? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, before we get to It's a Wonderful Life, just a, would you show this to your kids? Would you say, I want to continue this tradition. because I watched this as a kid. Or would you say, this thing's idiotic.

I feel like you can do a Linus cut where you just cut him out. And I feel like it wouldn't be a little better and make a little more sense, perhaps. I don't want to push that random Bible verse on my kid if it doesn't make any sense. Like even if I'm someone who's religious, I'm like, well, literally, what does this mean?

This doesn't mean anything. I would just show the whole thing, though. It all flows together. If that's how it was, that's how it is, you know? What if your kid comes up to you after and is like, mommy, what did that mean? Well, then you would simply just explain the baby Jesus loves you. Baby Jesus in the manger. And there you go ahead.

No, it's super simple. No, yeah, because I need some pointers. Yeah, what do you mean you would have simply been through this? Yeah, go ahead, explain baby Jesus in the manger. And I can hear the word that they use is he is the Messiah. So go ahead. What is Messiah? Yeah, what's that?

Well, that's going to. See, you don't need to be getting that detailed with kids, but... But in this specific comic, they have a child read that message. That's true. That's the thing. He's like, oh, we'll go to Linus for some theological underpinnings here. Right. I didn't think about it that deeply.

I just want to know if he was... Like, I haven't read that many of the Peanuts comics. I want to know, was he running the God stuff in the comics? I don't think a lot, right? No, I think it was like background. Christmas time, and the whole thing seemed to be against the commercialization of Christmas. I feel like Linus drops a verse in The Great Pumpkin. Does he?

I don't know. I feel like I remember that, but it's been a while. Well, we'll have to have you back in in October. Might be busy. But we also have a pre-recorded bit, PRB, we like to call it, and then we can review It's a Wonderful Life. And now? Fair lease That was one, yeah

Now we go to a place called Yes, this is a pretty big sponsor of ours So people pay you to do this? Yeah Fairlease.org Yeah What do they do? Well, what would you guess?

They lease fairly. Okay, that's pretty much the whole bag. What do you think they lease? Probably like homes. Probably what? Cars. Cars. Bingo.

Automobiles. What kind of cars? Automobiles? Automobile cars. Boats. I don't think those are considered automob. Those are watercraft. They're automatic.

Mobile. Right. Probably not a jet ski. Any car? Any car you would like? Any type of car. I know your next question. I already know your next question.

Where's the dealership? Oh. You took the words right out of my mouth. Right there on your phone. Online. Fairleased. Wherever you are. You know those noises your phone makes?

Well, then where do those cars come from? The dealership? That's not your concern. The cloud. They pluck one off the car tree. Right. And if you're like... The car tree next to the job tree.

I actually, I wanted a blue one. They get... Right. They paint it for you. See, that's all I needed to know about that. But the other thing, too, we didn't focus too much on the fair part. There's no fucking around here, okay? What's the deal?

What is the deal? You're going to have to go on your phone at fairlease.org. Wait, so you just have to get it and there's no deal? There's a great deal. When you tell them that you mention the dumb zone. Okay, what's the deal? What is the deal? You get commissioned or do they get something off?

Or you just being like, you know, penny pinchers? The deal is that you're getting a better deal there than other leasing companies. For instance. He's acting like that is going to get me. No, no, no. I know you want like a promo code for 20% out. This is a effing vehicle, dude. Big purchase. This is not a tiny little thing.

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I'm leaving. I'm getting up. Hold on, listen. So, like, we have another advertiser who they had a fleet of trucks. That means a lot of them. I know what a fleet is. Like ships, so they have, I'm hearing those boats. So they had a bunch of trucks.

They were leasing them at a place called DNM leasing. They went to fairlease.org. Who's that? They're a company called Community Mechanical. They're an HVAC company. You want any more questions answered? They're calling it HVAC. So here's the thing.

You're not making no sense. This company had a fleet of vehicles. They were leasing them at D&M leasing. They called Fair Lease. Fairlease.org said, you know what? Here's our deal. It was so much better that they bought them out of their other lease, and they lease all their vehicles from fairlease.org now.

Wow. So it's not like... There's the deal. It's not like they had this once... Oh, this month it's 10% off. It's always a great deal. And it's always fair. At...

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No. It's all organized. It's super. If it was dotgov, dot.gov would do something for me. They're communists. All right. So, in conclusion, what is the website we want people to go to?

I don't know. I forgot. Community mechanic fleet of trucks. At fairleys. org. I can't believe you gave into that and said it was. Now back to the dumb zone. I'm dreaming of a white Christmas just like the ones I used to know

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where it says how did you hear about us this is the dumb zone sub-a-thon he's grady spencer giving us music all day yeah absolutely give it up for grady and uh dan's daughters are here with us in studio eden and eva and uh we're here to boo sorry i'm gonna do the snoopy thing oh yeah funny as he was snoopy is the funny part like if snoopy's not in the charlie brown special uh yeah yeah then it's not much yeah and he's a veteran i mean i primarily think of oh the world war two flying ace that's right uh but in addition to that we all watched it's a wonderful life which uh i've actually never seen before now we discussed on the show recently that uh my mom who was definitely very cool um at like as a 30-something-year-old woman when she was

going to go to a book signing to meet Jimmy Stewart. My mom was very stoked on James Stewart. And he was like 80 at the time or something? 90. He didn't make it too much after that. But she was a big fan. Which is a shock then that she never made you watch it. Like I made them watch things growing up.

Yeah. And maybe she did. And I just, I mean, obviously I'm familiar with his affect and that he's beaten. And it's sort of in the transatlantic thing, like the accent announcers and all that use that's very annoying. You don't hear it as much anymore. Oh, the old-timey? Yeah, like, look on graphic for final two bullet points, that bit.

But I don't know. I'd never seen this movie. And, yeah, I got to tell you, maybe it's just because I'm not as bad of a person as I used to be maybe, and I'm trying to be a better one. I thought this is a good movie. Like, I actually enjoyed this movie. I think it's, I think it's well done.

I think there's parts where I actually, like, laughed. Like, it carries today. And I'm actually not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you that I hated it. I'm not going to rip it. I thought it was cool. I think it's a good movie. And I don't really like that many movie.

I don't know. I was, in two hours, I was like, I knew you obviously know what's going to happen, right? Like, it would honestly be a better, more compelling movie if like he if you asked for your life to suck now now it sucks it's never coming back but i know it's a lesson movie and like they're going to wrap it up like the bible right i assume that's how shit went in the bible did they wrap up the bible with a cool well you know like the idea of like hey your faith in your um your faith in humanity will be redeemed in some way right like that's the

point of the movie and it does at the end right like everybody comes together for him did you tear up at all at the end because i found myself when i at the end when everybody's bringing the money in and pouring it and then a telegram it's like it's like oh i'm like so happy like it's a happy no i feel you i definitely weld up uh even after i've seen it the fifth time like it's it's just makes you feel great yeah it's compelling and i'm a little bit bit of a homo yeah so i uh i don't know man i homo sapien obviously there's stuff in there that you're allowed to say it's a little bit corny but i even kind of thought for a movie in the 40s there were some comedic parts of it that i thought were like okay that's not bad so yeah

sorry i i liked something the worst thing you could do here go ahead us now yeah i don't know what did you think i liked it was there any tier possibility with you guys or no? Do people still cry? Or if we phase that out? I don't think I've ever cried in front of you. While watching a movie,

it's never been the vibe to cry. I've seen some tears when we watch Master Chef. That's because you're actively strangling me on the floor. That's what does it. Everyone has their breaking point. Master Chef Jr., by the way.

Master Chef Jr. Why do they put the kids any of it's just sad But no but I liked I liked the movie I thought it was good and they it was refreshing to see like good acting I think I've been watching stuff with the guy the main guy sounds and looks exactly like David Lynch So that up to my enjoyment of it immensely And I thought that he was good But I also

Have watched this before but I've only seen half of it But I actually found out that I've only seen like 30 minutes of it it because I thought that I watched half of it but like the first three-fourths of the movie is just his life and then like bam we're gonna have like 10 minutes of him regretting his life and then he has this huge change and it's the end of the movie and you're there and I thought that Clarence was like a way bigger part of the movie than he was. I haven't seen the one with Scrooge recently. Christmas story but I feel like in that one they get into the like hey we're doing in the retrospective like

alternate bit like way earlier and that's like the meat of the movie do you know what I'm saying? That's what we thought this one would be. That's the part that's what you're that's the that's a good point they do spend a lot of time in the setup. Yeah, piling up

that's yeah but and then he spends a lot of the time where he's supposed to be learning like just being confused as to what is happening. So I thought that they could maybe dwell on that a little bit longer. Not that he didn't That's a good point, too.

So he's really only dealing with the angel for 15 minutes of a two-hour movie. And for the first 10 of it, the guy's just, Clarence, the angel's entire lines are, I'm an angel. And Bayle's are just all, no, you're not, man. It's just 10 minutes of him. Like, no, no, no, we need to get to the part where you believe me so we can move this forward. And instead, he's like, boy, you're a strange cat, see. He's like, yeah. No, that's a good point.

but I don't know I'll tell you something else white people used to have a good time man the dancing like if that's what pop culture white parties looked like like when they're at the high school dance and they open up the gym floor everybody's dance like that looked great

do you know the trivia I don't even know if this would affect you at all the trivia on who opened up who is the guy with the key I don't that yes Didn't George started dancing, but the guy wanted to open up that floor? I don't even know if anybody will understand what this means.

But it was that person was alfalfa in the Little Rascals. Oh. In the early... Isn't there like a Little Rascals curse where they all died in, like, horrific ways very early on the life? Elfalfa would die within a couple of years of being in that movie. It's a wonderful life. I did mention to Ava that... like everyone nowadays has like iPhone face and they all have like a bunch of filler and so like I feel like we couldn't shoot something like this nowadays and have it pass for the 40s or whatever but that guy alfalfa looked like he could look like a guy I'd see on the street nowadays everyone else looked old very old yeah he looked like he could be a high school or at that high school people did just look old man what is we've

talked before about now like the filler thing used to be if you were 50 and you were trying to hold on to it a little bit you do that stuff I see now girls in their 20s doing that stuff and then it makes them look like Yeah um that vice

photo shoot that just dropped with Caroline what's her name she's in the Caroline Levin and you can see the injection mark on her lips and she's like 28 and she looks 50 White House League yeah okay yeah the press secretary

Yeah. It's crazy. Like, everyone just looks super old. It's weird that people are, because that look is old because it's like 50-year-old's trying to look younger. And now it's like you just become ageless in a way that, like, I can't tell if you're 20 to 50. Which is possibly a good bit. It's with my bald theory. Yeah.

My Bob Stern bald theory. You guys know Bob. Yeah. He went bald when he was like 25. We worked together then for, you know, 15, 20 years. People would see us when we first started working together. He's bald. I was not.

Then they saw us 15 years later. And they'd look at Bob and be like, man, you look great. You look exactly, you know, and they'd look at me and go, Oh. Oh, hi. Can I help you across the street? Can I help you across the street? Right, yeah.

It is similar. The thing you're leaving out is the women are paying for. that. They're paying for that ambiguous. You pay for it but in 20 years somebody will look at her and say, you look the same as you did when I knew you. It will work. It's just a different way to do it to be

like, I'm going to make myself look 42. Make yourself look over. But that stuff doesn't last too well either. You have to keep, you have to stay on it or else it starts dragging you down and then you do look 60. Well, filler like migrates across your face if you don't get it dissolved. So that's another thing about looking bad.

Squish it around. Yeah. Let me tell you something else. At first, you know, you know that George is going to kill himself at the end of the movie or try to because he's getting divine intervention from his angel. Like, hey, you need to go down here and save this guy. What if he got that? And then at the end, he just jumps. That's what I'm saying is that there is, there are a couple decisions here that would have made this.

A funnier movie. Yeah. Funnier. But, so it's 19. 28 and George has a business partner. They work in finance and they work at a place that needs to obviously have their deposits covered because they give out loans. 1928, his business partner, who is, I think his uncle, is carrying around $8,000 in cash,

which we are come to learn is the full reserve of the bank. If they don't have this, they are insolvent. and he's carrying around this $8,000 on his person. I think we learned earlier in Kevin's game show. That's like a million dollars in today's money. It's like $130,000. You looked it up. Yeah, I looked at up.

We were watching it. $130,000. That'd be quite a bit to be carrying around. So he has that $130K, and he's dicking around with the bad guy in town, the big, mean, bad businessman, and he's giving him a hard time. And he accidentally drops this $8,000. in that guy's newspaper trying to like you know just slap him and the guy finds it later of course he's not going to give it back but now the $8,000 is gone everything's we're talking

Bernie Madoff levels of like they're going to prison and so now George is pissed and at first you're like God he goes home and you feel like he's going to hit his kids because he's like get the kids away from me I wish when you have these kids and it seems irrational unless you considered you or me doing that to one another like if we run this business together and somehow i take into my possession an item that if i lose you're going to jail if i lose it like anything is on the table as far as the reaction goes yeah so i don't the idea that they run a bank where they're carrying that amount of money around i'm just led to believe because i wasn't alive a hundred years ago that was normal, seems very weird.

And that's the whole point of the movie. The guy loses the money. They don't make a bad decision. Right. There's not like bad. It's just this guy carried all of their money into a bank and lost it. He also seems to be the kind of guy that would do that and you would kind of know that. Not put him in charge of the drops.

I'm not going to let if you had. Yeah. I don't want to throw a train on the bus, but let's say you have 130,000. Sure. And you've got Blake and you got T.C. And you got T.C. and you got T.C. and you got whatever. And you have Angelo. And then you say, you know what? Let me just give the $130,000 to Angelo and take this to the bank for me.

And then later you're just shocked. Like, what do you mean you lost to money? It just, I don't know. That to me seemed like an odd plot point. But I like, I remember liking the Mary, the wife, like if he hadn't married her. Yeah, she's so ugly now She's hideous She's wearing glasses and she has a little hat on Yeah Oh no, she's like Adrian and Rocky

She just never lives her life Before he takes the glasses off Nothing for herself And you know to indicate that she's an old Dried Up loser they make her work at the library Right, the library Look at her walking out of the library Busted

Yeah that's a funny Nothing without him The man I thought you were going to say that without her Her, because the other violets are much more fun time. I feel like. She's a fun time, yeah. That's the path I would have chose.

I'm just saying without, without him, though, without a husband. Oh, yeah. That's what you would turn into in the 30s, or whenever this is. I didn't pull the audio, but the part where they leave the high school party where they all fall or jump into a pool, so they have to get alternate clothing. Her alternate clothing is a robe. At some point, he steps on the tail. of the robe and it comes off

and she has to hide in the bushes and he has her robe and she's you know give George give me my robe back and I swear to you dude he starts basically doing the first penthouse letter where he's like it's not every day a man finds himself in a situation like this I've certainly interesting and he says uh I've read about these sorts of things

but I was like damn that's the original right before we work out a little deal here to get this rope back Geez, dude. I didn't know they were doing that a hundred years ago. Oh, dude. They weren't asking a hundred years ago. I guess that's true. I'm surprised by a lightly rapy joke in the 20s or the 40s.

Did you guys watch this at like 1.75 speed? Like, you do everything? No, but... You were playing a little game. Oh, well, you know, I have to multitask when I watch things like that. Yeah, you're kind of brain-rotted in that. It keeps me focused. I've been trying to unbrain-rotify myself.

I have too. No, you have not. I have not witnessed that at all from you. I've been off of Instagram. The criminal. The fact that she's aware of it is like the first thing. If you're aware of a behavior, then that's like already trying to change it. And we've talked about this.

Like, this was going to happen at some point. Because we've shoved it down their throats that it's bad for them. I mean, how many, the last decade of culture has been like, I don't know. Seems like it's bad. That's going to, the smart. Wasn't TV bad for you growing up? Didn't you just hear? Yeah, and I mean, then they limited it, right?

But it feels like when we put it all in the phone, there was like, I mean, I was not allowed just to watch as much TV as I wanted all the time. Yeah. Because, you know, Tipper Gore, whoever told my mom, this is bad. Yeah, but they're in their 20s now. So there's nobody to police them on whatever it is. And you're self-aware to say, this ain't good what I'm doing. But I'm not staring at Instagram for eight hours a day.

I'm playing a game. Well, why is that better? It's different. I don't even know if it qualifies that a game. I'm not looking at other people live these lavish fake lives. I'm playing brick on my phone. You're justifying this. You are on a very fascinating thing, though.

It's better than, like, level one billion in water pour. Level one trillion, still better than being on Instagram. Instagram all day. I feel that. I truly feel like that's true. Sure, it's not good to sit on your phone and, like, play a game as much as I do, maybe. But I'm on vacation also, so I don't care. You will have the TV on, your iPad or computer in front of you, and your phone in your hand. Well, I got a lot going on. I got a lock in. I've been trying to put my phone down, and I, like, I took TikTok, Instagram and Twitter off of my homepage, so now I have to, like, swipe down and actually look it up if I want. to go on any of those apps. And it's like every time I go to my social media folder, I

actually like stop and think and I'm like, whoa, what am I doing? I was just about to scroll for no reason there. I was like going to go do something. And see, that's why, you know, not that, like T.C. and I, Blake's generation, Grady, like

they just handed this shit to us. And we're like, oh, hopefully you don't make any mistakes. We don't know what it's going to do. Yeah, you're like, 20. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen people starting to gray scale their phone? What's that mean?

Take away all the colors of the apps where it's not as addictive. Oh, wow. Because I know for a fact that I can tell, and I'm sure T.C., like when you put on certain YouTube channels or whatever, they've hacked the color to grab your kid's eyes. They know, they fine-tuned this now to a point where, and I'm telling you, do, like the Japanese cartoons are just... They can't, it just locks their eyes. It's manipulated to be attention grabbing. So it would make sense if you remove that.

TC's just seething, I'm sure. Pro Tech, like, steer into it. So it's funny because it's funny we get veering off into this stuff, just because anytime like a news story comes up about, I don't know, 6, 7 or whatever, you're like, text your daughters about that. Oh, yeah. Do you guys know you get a random text from me now and again about? Do you understand what that's about?

Yeah. I know what you're trying to do. I mean, actually, I don't because a lot of the times I just have nothing to say. I don't know what you say. Do you come on here and you're like, well, my daughter said this? Like, you never. Yeah, what's the reflection period? It typically will happen in like the news or something that the kids are doing this.

And Jake says, oh, text your daughters about this. I'm like, is this? Because the other thing, too, is like sometimes? Is it live? Is it a live hit? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Sometimes what happens, I think, with, because most of the news is made by adults, like older adults. And I think sometimes, like, it'll be a story where it's like, oh, kids everywhere are doing that. They're not. You have to, like, ask someone who's that age, and they'll be like, that's not a thing at all. Well, I always like to ask, like, is, do you even know what this is? Well, when he asks stuff like that, at least when you ask me stuff like that, like, it's either, like, was like a joke or a meme or like popular like at least one to two years ago yes a long time ago yeah i'm like how did you what sources are y'all looking at to find this this false info

i saw a term the other day i don't even i the term uh it was like you know cooper de jean right uh already my hero um you know who he is right eva yeah uh he's a football player young football player and he has a speculation that he's dating like a 43 year old wrestler which all of this is my white NFL player and the headline was like fans are

already shipping Cooper's Gene and I'm like that term is too much shipping yeah they know do you know what that means? Yeah do you know what that means? It's like wanting people to be in a relationship so you ship them together usually it's just with like characters

in the media I feel. Yeah, but also. It can happen with celebrities, too. Yeah. I feel like I mostly see it with like... Especially like actors who are in the same shows. Hoping two people in a show.

Yeah. Two people in the same show. Characters. But not like real like, not like football players, I would say. No, there's actually a huge community of people for hockey specifically who are crazy into that. Oh. To like hook hockey players up with other people? With other hockey players.

Oh, wow. Okay, there is like a gay hockey show on HBO right now That's probably why It's uh, I don't know that it's plugged in I don't know if it's fiction or not So we're shipping to hope that they I don't think you need to That sounded weird

We'll leave it alone All right so You will show your kids this movie maybe No This movie? I would probably It's so classic I feel like it would be good Well, they're probably not going to like the black and white

They're going to tune out After all that cocoa melon Didn't they have a color version on? Oh, they do have a color version Yeah, we didn't watch that one I thought it'd be strange That doesn't feel right Yeah

But I remember watching this in the past And being like, I don't want to watch this This isn't black and white But think about how far we've come Oh really Ten years ago we would have asked them to do this And they would have watched like a two-minute reaction video I was gonna say

Hey, what's up, idiots I watched this wonderful life It's like, I've already seen the movie. I watched a... Not a film, but whatever, you're into film. Yeah. You're into a production. And I asked once if you've seen The Godfather.

I've seen it with you. But this is a while back. Well, but the first time I... And you were like, well, I watched clips on YouTube. That's not true. There's been some classic movies. I've been like, have you seen... I saw clips on YouTube.

I get it. This is a long time ago. I swear it was the Godfather. I was probably a good... I had seen the Godfather with you. All right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember.

I don't recall this. Oh, one more thing. Are we going to keep our tradition? We have a Christmas tradition that started last year. Are we going to do it every year? Do you remember what it was? Oh, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. You brought it to the table.

Well, we watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 last year. Okay, so we did one two years ago? We could go for three. Wouldn't recommend it. Is that the McCona? one? No, but oh my gosh, we should not watch that one. Oh, the McConaughey one?

That is Texas Chainsaw Masker, the next generation. Which sounds awesome. Obviously, Star Trek, the next generation is awesome, but like, this is no. McConaughey's agent begged them to edit him out of the movie, but they wouldn't. Because they were like, bro, he's in the movie. He's like a character in the movie. I can't just take him out. He's like part of the family.

Have you watched the Ed, you like horror, right? Yes. Have you watched the Ed Gein? Little docu series? No. Depiction, yeah. But there is a lot of inspiration taken from that in Texas Chainsland Massacre. I'll watch it again if you want to watch it.

I don't care. Yeah, at first I was groaning because I think I had mixed up your family traditions and I thought you guys were going to sit down to watch another human centipede. Oh, my God. Like a couple years ago. It gets exponentially worse through the series as well. Like, if you think one is... Are you seen all those?

One isn't that bad. Number two? It's really not. Yeah, no, I think you guys watch like all three of them or something. It's like a half our show one day. Oh. It is digestible. It is normal.

It's normal. I just did. It's fine for the average, like, horror watcher, I would say. But number two gets pretty, pretty bad. And number three is, like, abhorrent. Like, I would not wish that movie upon anyone. It is truly terrible. It is deeply offensive and bad.

But the good thing about the third one is that they bring in the director of the series and have him be a character. And he's like, yes, I directed the Human Centipede series. And now we're doing that here. Ooh, that's deep. No, it's not. It really isn't It's not good

Never seen it Pretty grossed out by the whole deal Probably shouldn't have brought it back up But you've seen human sent a pad Yeah that's great Read South Park Read the terms and conditions Yeah

Well thank you For driving downtown To the Game Day Men's Health studio They never got to We don't want to talk to Grady here. Oh, yeah. Well, I wanted to avoid that, but this is Grady Spencer. In fact, I can just do this.

You'll know who Grady Spencer is in a moment because this was the first person who said, hey, would you have my daughter, or I think we came up with the idea because Grady wanted us to promote a new song that he had coming out. And I called him and I was like, I just don't think we do that. That's just not our thing. We're not going to just play a song. but I'll play it for my daughters and we could see what they think of it. Would you do that? And he's like, yeah, let's do it.

And this was just a clip from when I first started to explain to the girls what we were doing. The name of the group is Grady Spencer and The Work. Yeah, I'm good. Thank you, though. Wow. I feel like, I feel like I've really been taken there. to 1950s with the da-da and the

do you know what I mean and the work I mean I would not this definitely is like one of garage bands though no if I saw that name on Spotify I would not listen

like a hundred percent I'm not listening definitely not like that's it sounds old like they've already aged themselves they've already blocked out in the entire cover band.

They're a cover band as you're saying. That was the initial start. Before they heard. Note one. Yeah, they hadn't heard any of the music. Yeah. My bad, Grady's been to. That's okay.

That's all right. I stand by it. Yeah, I think it's fair. I think it's fair. I'm pretty old. I'm very old. Thank you for standing by your first take. All right.

Thanks, guys. The dunza. We are here now to talk about community mechanical with my daughters. They're known as the Roast Twins. Do you wear that with pride? What do you feel about being called the Roast Twins? I don't feel connected to that label even in the slightest.

This show means nothing to me. Okay. One time your dad tried to kill us because there was carbon monoxide dumping into the attic from the exhaust duct in his furnace. He slide him right into the spot here. And I didn't fire any complaint. But the guy came over and was like, this is dangerous. You could be killing your whole family. So here's the thing.

Do you have HR? This was above your guy's bedroom. Is that why we have those detectors in the house now? There was a duct that had come loose. When was this? You guys were away at college. Okay. But he said, yes, this is dumping carbon monoxide.

Something bad into the attic. And he's like, if we had not caught this right now, could have been a pretty bad scene for you. For you. Might have been great for you guys. You could have... Cashed in. You made your will yet?

You could have split a Bitcoin. CommunityDFW.com. We'll do the will spot later. CommunityDFW. So you want to hook up with them for preventative maintenance. So they'll come over. They'll kind of check everything and go, oh, wait. Hey, look, this is bad.

This could be... See? See how it's a valuable thing? See, see. I think if there's anything I've learned. Dan, they'll learn, everything is a scam. Everything. So, like, you call one company and they're like, oh, that's going to be $20,000.

Literally call one other company, and they'll say, that's $500. That's $200. That's what these people do. One more copy point for community. Don't answer, Ava. Okay? I'm going to ask Eden here. Okay, perfect.

Because they are the official HVAC company of Brandon Aubrey. Did she retain this? Wow. Tell us about Brandon Aubrey. What do you know about him? Eight days ago. Love Brandon Aubrey. Love him.

What do you love most about him? Probably the sports that he does. Okay. I'm obsessed. He's in views. Ava, do you want to pick this up? No. Who is Brandon Aubrey?

Eden's got it. Take it away. He's this guy. So there's this guy. His name is Brandon Aubrey. He is, of course, go ahead. The Cowboys Kicker. Yes, that's what I was getting to.

He was the Cowboys Kicker who had his AC- Fixed. by Community Mechanical. Yeah. And they sponsor his show. You know, he's on with us. Weekly, did you know that? He is. We know that.

No, I did not know. So, you're going to go to CommunityDFW.com, call or text 469-66727290. You guys can text him. I'm okay. I can text Community or I can text Brandon Aubrey.

Yeah, I'll text Brandon Aubrey, but not the... What are you going to text to Brandon Aubrey? It doesn't stop your dad. He thinks he's real friends with him. He does say that, doesn't he? He told him to remind his other guy on the team, hey, it's his birthday. Make sure you tell him.

He texted another guy to tell him, make sure you tell your teammate, happy birthday. That's a little intimate. No, you got to make sure that hard. And I would not have been able to do that if community mechanical didn't save my life. Really? Right. You guys would have had to text. All right.

Thank God he was wished to happy birthday. Now back to the Dumb Zone. Better watch out. Better watch out. Better not cry. Better not pout. I'm telling you why Santa Claus is coming to town. He's making the list, checking it twice, going to find out who's naughty or nice.

Santa Claus is coming to town. We continue on with the sub-a-thon today. Thank you, Grady Spencer. The work is not here. We invite you to go to dumzone.com. You can go to the little sub-a-thon tab at the top there. If you subscribe to our show, even just on YouTube, Give us a YouTube subscription.

We will donate $5 to the North Texas Food Bank. If you actually subscribe, whether it's monthly or annually or the VIP, we will give higher levels of cashola money to the North Texas Food Bank, which they need apparently. Because food is not free. We are learning. No. So, yeah, thanks to everybody involved so far. thanks. We're going to try and get an update what's been going out. We've done this

really, we opened up the donation link on the 1st of December and started doing this for any December subscriptions kind of ending with today. We'll probably keep it going for another couple of days as well. But

yeah, we'll update we'll try to update the best we can. This isn't like the Jerry Lewis telethon, unless they were just lying on the Jerry Lewis telethon. They were. Oh, come on. That's okay. They were getting close.

I feel like I grew up believing in that. They have a number there, and that means that's how many people called in and pledged that amount. Well, then that's what happened. Okay, and I used to believe that caller 98 would win something from the radio station until I saw that in action as well. Joining us now. Can we give away one more book? Sure. Code word in the chat.

I'm not going to tell you what it is. Ooh, so if you've been listening throughout the day. Scroop. You will know. We're giving away Brandon Aubrey author to books. Brandon Aubrey is our kicker friend. He's also a children's author. And he's signed some books for us today because he's a good dude.

So joining us on the couch because we have a Zoom guest, a very special Zoom guest. We first can say hello to the duo known as Julie and Jorts. Oh, yeah. We love Julie. We love Jorz. Hello. Hi, Julie. Six to 10.

Would you like some... Hi, everybody. Oh, I guess I was going to offer you some of Julie's champagne, but... Of course. She did not... I didn't even know George was here until one second ago, but... I didn't know either. He looks awesome.

If he looks so awesome. If he would like one, I just have to get you a glass from the Mom Game Studio over there. Henry. Yeah, Henry. You just missed my daughter who was on... She was on the couch with you, even. That's a shame. They did a great job on the...

the show last hour excuse me on the games it was spectacular they were great so really what we're doing here though when we first we first had the idea to do this and we said we could get on a bunch of different guests it's real near christmas who is the first name i said you know what we need to get this person on because to me he's all about christmas and giving the one the only william pace William Pace, my old friend from Dayton, Ohio. He has been on our show before we have, in fact, we might play some other clips to just remind people. But first, we'll say hello. Hello, William Pace.

How are you? I'm doing fine. How are you? Doing just fantastic. You, in fact, are very, you are very into Christmas. You sing Christmas songs. Let me just prove that. William, what do you think of the studio?

Oh, I love it. Thank you. I love it. Very festive. Very Christmassy. We've heard some of this on our show before. William Pace just did a concert himself to raise money for a local area food bank in Ohio. Yes.

and it was a very, very successful. And this is William Pace. Whoa. He's a classically trained singer. I know. I almost forgot for a second. That sounds so beautiful, William. This is a guy that in Dayton, Ohio,

me and my buddy live together, Joe. And we would watch Dayton Cable Access TV. And was it at midnight, William? Your show would come on late at night. Midnight. And 12 o'clock at midnight. This large man would come on our TV. He would be wearing a tuxedo.

He was big. You're probably 350 back then. Dan. Probably. Well, he's gotten in way better shape now. Wait. It looks great. Well, thank you.

I've gone from 303 pounds down to 2. Yeah. That's fantastic. Anyway, this guy would just fascinated us. Like, he'd have celebrities on his show. He'd just talk. He would take viewer mail. He would, uh, whatever. Then he would just sing.

You would just break out and singing. And then we booked him on our radio show. And then he booked us on his TV show. And it was a friendship, um, developed. Now, we were talking last week. Who did you say the William Pace and Dan friendship resembles to you? Do you remember your analogy last week? Are you talking to me, Dan?

Yeah, yeah. You said you and I have a friendship like. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I remember now. We were talking last week. And, of course, you know, I have much respect for Oprah. and she has a very good friend named Gail and they did a show

they did a show back to back they did a show from Connecticut and they did a show from Chicago and so I said to Dan we ought to do that we ought to do a show from Fort Worth and from Dayton, Ohio, the home of aviation and Paul Lawrence Dunbar. Do you remember that tag, Dan?

Was that on your show? Remember that was the tag that you used on your show the voice of the day, the mystery guests of the day, and you had taken that clip from a show that I had done when I was out in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Racing, Wisconsin, and singing with the Racing Wisconsin concert band. And whenever I'm on the road, we tape whatever I'm doing and use that in the show as well. And so you took that sound bite, you know, at the end of each concert I do, I grab the, get the microphone.

They would much prefer I not. But I say, I'm from Dayton, Ohio, the home of aviation, and Paul Lawrence Dunbar. And you took that clip, that line, and played it on the radio, your radio show, and Dayton. Ohio. And immediately, people recognize the voice. And that's how it all started. Okay. And that's people guessed your voice. Then we got a hold of you. And again, so I was on your show. Do you want to prove that to anybody that I was actually on who has this video? Hold on. Why don't you? Jake has some video, I think. Oh, great. Yeah, go ahead. We can start with. This is a voice you hear every day on the...

This is me on William Pace's program many years ago. Oh, that's our friend, Trey. That's all right. That's all right. Yeah, this is William Pace. It is a voice you hear every day on the radio from 3 to 6 p.m. on News Talk, 1290 W-H-I-L radio. And if you're listening carefully, you might hear another familiar voice singing. You're making a first-time call on the radio.

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Dan McDowell Show. Please welcome my special guest, Dan McDowell. Good to have you on the show tonight. All right. Thanks very much, William, thanks. And you're going to help me with some of my duties tonight. I understand this is a first. The first time you've ever had a guest read your letter segment? Yes, and maybe this might become a regular thing on the show.

We'll see how well you do. Oh, really? Okay. Well, yeah. I love it. Well, there you go. We both look exactly the same. Both style icons. iconic style from both of you. Mr. Pace, also your home is beautiful. I love your home.

Well, thank you. Thank you. I live in a very old house. It was built in 1904. It's about 121 years old. And it was a farmhouse at one time. And it's the oldest house in this area, 1904. Most of the houses here were in this area.

were built in 1930s. Beautiful. So. Almost as old as, yes, almost as old as aviation itself. True. It is true. Yeah. That's very, very true.

So, William, what is your, because we want, this is a sub-a-thon for the Dumb Zone, but we also wanted to invite our friends on and try and drum up some subscriptions for them as well. If somebody goes and checks out your YouTube page, where they could see you singing. They could see you doing many interviews. That's right. They can go 24-7. From wherever.

You don't have to be in Dayton to get YouTube. Is it morning time, nighttime? No problem, though. Whenever. But what's your channel? Because I want you to tell me how many subscriptions you had when you started today. And if we can get you more subscriptions today for every subscription to the William Pace channel we'll donate five dollars to the north texas football wow i love it i love it love it yes uh they just go to

william pay show youtube and um they'll be able to see how i started some 30 years ago and how i'm still at it and um um it's pretty hard to hush me up and uh to get me to stop talking and um I remember one time, you know, when the studios were downtown, I was coming off the elevator in this one lady said, oh, you're still on the air. I said, yes, I planned to stay on the air to the very end. So will you be around to see me too? And but, yeah, I don't plan to stop anytime soon. All right. Well, so go check out William Pace's channel.

We appreciate you. I know you love Christmas. You love singing about Christmas. And we wish you the best this holiday season. Could we sing with him before he goes? Oh. Like all of us? Go on.

What's your favorite Christmas song to sing, William? Oh, I have so many, so many, so many. One that the guys will know too. Yeah, let's do it, everybody. Okay. Have yourself a merry little. Little Christmas Make your new

tie to say We ought to take it on the road Huh? Yeah, I don't know the words I know that first part A Merry Little Christmas Yeah, have yourself a Merry Little Christmas You know, and it talks about

We gather near to friends That are dear to us Like George. And, yes, gathering near to people that you really treasure and people that you um that are like family and um those are things are important and i always say too that christmas just isn't christmas without the spirit of giving yeah it just simply isn't christmas and i sort of took it from you know there's a song called uh christmas just ain't christmas without the one you love and i say christmas just isn't

christmas without the spirit of giving yeah well up you know that's beautiful thank you so much it's so good to see you good to see you too merry christmas merry christmas indeed merry christmas and thanks for your time william take care good to see you all right bye oprah i mean william that's right i'm gail right you're oprah i'll take it blake is steadman that's right i'm gale yeah i'll take it thank you william that's the great william pace all right okay thank you merry christmas What a sweet man. He's the best.

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