The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 1-14-25: a check in with Brandon Aubrey, Cowboys stories with Elwyn Henderson, and TC on Notre Dame

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Hear the entire episode by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneA big episode for guests today as we have on Elwyn Henderson, a writer for the Gilmer Mirror, shares some old Cowboys stories with us. We have Cowboys All-Pro kicker, Brandon Aubrey, on for his weekly appearance and he politely declines coaches or players talking to him before kicks. And TC Fleming joins for the back half to discuss Notre Dame in the national championship and his trip to the Shane Gillis show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hey now, what you are about to hear is a free preview of one of this week's premium episodes of The Dumb Zone. If you would like to hear this program in full, along with the full archive... Ah, shit. If you would like to hear this program in full, with the archive of all of our past episodes, you can subscribe at dumbzone.com. A Texas man has been charged with stalking WNBA star Kaitlyn Clark. Yeah, this was sent to me quite a bit.

I noticed. He's from and he was arrested in Indianapolis on Sunday. Why is this sent to me? Because you've been caping for her like no one else? Dude. I'm just pointing out facts that people are into Kaitlyn Clark. And when I watch a Kaitlyn Clark game, it's incredible.

She's great. When LeBron goes, but Charlie Woods is not quite ready, we're going to have about a four-year... Well, the Deion Cowboy, I'm locked into every press conference. We stream them all. I'm not forgetting about the Wednesday press conference or whatever. What do you think the chance is that they hire Deion? I think it's over 50.

Over 50? I was going to say 5 to 10. Oh, boy. I say 50%. This is what he does. This is why he gets so – he was at 90 on Belichick. What do you mean what he does? You get so fired up about this stuff.

I'm looking at the odds. I like big odds. There's some Romo on there. Yeah, Romo at 2,000 to one. Did you see the Jordan Schultz report about Belichick and the Cowboys? I opened with it today. Okay, okay. And it was tough, but I knew that I could do it because he had the Dion thing already kind of lined up.

I'm not as fired up as him, and I was still a little crestfallen. Because whenever you're talking about what would work, that's the one thing they would do that would work. Yeah. Right? Immediately. Yeah, and I could even see Saban. Yeah, that would work better than anything else that I think they're considering.

I agree. I think his NFL thing, I've never like gone back and read a book about it or anything, but I think Nick Saban would have worked in the NFL. I mean, that one inflection point of Drew Brees wants to come. Yeah. They look at his shoulder. They say, no, we'd rather have Dante Culpepper.

If that goes different, why wouldn't – I mean, I don't know. You know, who knows. But I would like to see what happens then. Now he's just old. that goes different, why wouldn't... I mean, I don't know. You know, who knows, but... I would like to see what happens then. Now he's just old. It's easy for me to imagine him having Sean Payton's career. Yeah, I mean...

Too much butterfly effect. Yeah, I mean if they do sign Drew Brees, do they use him in the same way? Does he open him up like Sean Payton would? Definitely Payton's a better offensive mind than Saban or anyone else on that staff. Well, no. Saban had Garrett.

That's a great point. Michael Lewis was the man in Denton who drove to Indianapolis. Moneyball? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why they sent it to Dan. What a downfall. Boy, he's had a turn.

You guys know about that? I know TC does. Michael Lewis? We're out on Michael Lewis now. Just because of the SBF stuff? That didn't help. Yeah, he was caping hard for Sam Bankman Freed as being misunderstood.

And he also, if you go back and watch some of the interviews he did about the blind side. Oh, the blind side, yeah. He's kind of saying some racist stuff. It's just a little suspect. In any case, any case 55 year old man from denton was arrested sunday here's an example of some of the uh messages he sent on x in the month of december at this is public too by the way

uh oh it doesn't actually say but it does have the have the at CaitlinClark22 at the beginning of the message. Been driving around your house three times a day, but don't call the law just yet. Just yet. The public is allowed to drive by Gainbridge, a.k.a. Caitlin's Fieldhouse. Read one of the more tame messages. Yeah. What's the untame ones? I know.

They're probably not publishing them. Yeah, Caitlin Clark, they said I was sending threatening texts, but the only thought on my mind was Caitlin with a bunch of I's and N's. Many other posts are too explicit to share. Like his wiener? Probably. I thought the funny part was he drove from Denton to Indianapolis. They track these tweets and they find him in like a Hilton Garden Inn or something.

Knock on his door. He says, no, those aren't coming from me. They said, okay, well, if they are, you just need to cool it, okay? He says, okay. A couple hours later, he's back at it again. He cooled it for as long as he could. The Sun,

the paper, I suppose, they did publish some of them. Okay. I thought you meant this guy had a kid. I was concerned. I don't know that he doesn't, but that's not the focus here. I hope not. Soon we'll be married and raise a family. Oh, yeah, have a cozy little crib in the country with two children, maybe three. But it, we know, Michael, it's just your imagination.

I don't know. I'm so excited we're a couple, a royal couple for sure, making super royal babies. And it was just my imagination once again running away with me. That's the song. Yes, very much the song. This one, got to give him a little bonus point for self-awareness. He just added there, it says, shoot or shoot and lion stalk. Oh, no.

Wow. Oh, no. Whatever you know that you're stalking. That's the sort of shit like a super premier athlete says like hey he's like that for stalking you know like that's a jj walk quote for a stalker like the the person that we knew that had a stalker i didn't ever get the impression that that guy woke up it was like i hope i get to do some stalking today. Yeah. Because whenever the cops would show up, he would be like...

Who are we talking about? I don't know if I'm supposed to say. We can cut it out. Do I know him? You want me to say? Yeah. Alexis. Oh, yeah.

But she had somebody that, like a listener. And one of the highlights of my ticket career was her and Dan in a room with Dan just asking. And she was 100% comfortable with it. She appeared to be happy to be telling this interesting story and being able to relate to someone about this. But just, you know, Dan, one of the only people that's going to ask the questions we all want asked about someone else's stalking experience. Like, she gets done with one answer and he's like, but what about this?

Just undeterred in a way that I admire and deeply appreciate. Did you kind of like it? No, he never asked that. He didn't say all attention is good attention. But she said... Look at what you're wearing. I have found that oftentimes

subjects that people are like, that's too taboo to talk about. Like, sometimes the people want to talk about this subject that everyone's tiptoeing around. Yeah. Like, they're like, finally, someone will just talk about it. No, and I think everyone actually...

I thought that exact thing in a party once and asked the woman, so how'd you lose your arm? And it became clear very quickly that that is not how she felt about that topic she would rather it not be discussed wow it's what's going on over here that's what i would have said i would have said yeah go ahead ask her i'll bet you everyone doesn't want to say anything. She said elevator, then read on my face clearly that I felt bad, and then said, no, I'm just fucking with you.

It was birth. Oh. No, I think everyone knows that there's a 10% chance the person really does want to talk about it, but everyone but you is too afraid of the 90%. They run the numbers. Where they're like, ah, it's just not worth it, because probably they don't.

They're probably going to say something like, you know, you're a big jerk. Never tell me the odds. Yeah, that's right. He was right here, though. But that guy, I don't know if this, like, obviously it's a lie, but I don't know if he knows he's lying. Like, when the cops would show up, he would be like,

man, my fucking bitch wife always doing this shit. Yeah. And so he never was like, I'm here to stalk. Yes, officer, I'm enjoying my stalking right now. And I guess that guy denied it to the officers at the door. But if he's saying, she's shooting, why in stalk? Yeah. For her part, Clark was forced to disguise herself in public and change her movement pattern.

That's rough. So I don't know whether or not she – yeah, she had to ditch what she's currently wearing, which is a disguise as a McPoyle. All she does is just put the little middle brow. Yeah, the middle brow. I'll just tape this on there and there. Yeah. But it is funny. Yeah, the middle brow. I'll just tape this on there and there. Done.

Yeah. But it is funny. She looks exactly like it. To Blake's point, after they asked him about it, he eventually did admit to it. They asked him why he's doing it, and he said, I don't know, just the same reason everybody makes posts. It is very genuine.

Yeah. And he said, this is kind of a joke, an imagination fantasy type thing. And to be honest... I just drove up to Indiana as a joke. If he had not done the Indianapolis thing, I would have been able to ride for this guy on like a, come on, like, the guy's got a little... A little weird.

His reality's not all there. Bipolar. He doesn't realize that, like, type this out, there's a person on the other end. But when you get in a car and drive, whatever, 10-plus hours. Just given the number of people with mental illness, don't you feel like if you're a famous woman, it's just a random number generator of there's some chance? Yeah.

Like, I don't think there's – Somebody's going to try to kill the president for you. Yes, yes, yes. Just be kind of hot. I don't even know that you have to do that. Or not even just attractive to the public. Yeah. And somebody's going to be like, yeah, yeah.

I was going to say, Dan, it's kind of props to her to say like, oh, there's a stalker out there. Let me just change the way I do a couple things. I feel like others in the WNBA is like, what's this all about? Yeah. Because one of the players, when they showed up to the hotel. I can think of some of them that would beat his ass. It's true.

They were upset that like 20 people were there wanting autographs at like 2 a.m. Because of Caitlin Clark? Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, well, what's the deal with this? Yeah, well, she's famous, you idiot. Right. Oh, I remember that video.

Yeah, this is the new territory now. Somebody's after me. Sure. And like, okay, you want publicity. Welcome to the Cowboys. Right. This is a part of the circus you're going to have to get used to. I kind of admired that she was like, I'll go this way now. Didn't the cops tell

the guy you're supposed to stalk the entire league? In one league of the year, yeah. Yeah, the Mystics owner called him, hey, what about Angel? Why are the cops focusing on this? Clearly, he's just stalking WNBA players.

You want to focus on the fact that it's her. So, follow up on a story from back in 2022. There was a woman who worked at a preschool, and some of her pupils got into her edibles oh yeah this happened to prosper anisha burks um so uh let's see they were in a jacket she had left behind she brought him into the classroom she pled guilty The affidavit doesn't really address how the toddlers obtained the edibles. If they do get to it, they think it's candy. Obviously, right?

Yeah. I would assume. You sound like you're speaking for a whore. I've never had this happen. No, we're vigilant because of that. Yeah. There's a wonderful number of drugs that would not be appetizing to a child. Sure.

Yeah. You can leave your acid, your ecstasy out all day with no risk. And like smoke. It's not like they're going to be like, I'm going to figure out how to pack this bowl. Yeah. But the thing that looks like a Reese's peanut butter cup is tougher. Look, I get it. It is pretty irresponsible.

But this kind of shocked me. So there were four kids, and they're probably fine, right? They're absolutely fine. They had to go to the hospital because they got ill. It's unpleasant, I'm sure. I did say preschool, and while it's listed as that, they were one-year-olds. Yeah, it's just toddlers.

I was going to say. Still no permanent damage. Wouldn't you mind or wouldn't you like to see like a three-year-old's trip? No. Do they just see like six marshals from Paw Patrol? Okay, I can tell you this, and I probably shouldn't be admitting this. Oh, no. Nora does take a light dose of melatonin.

A kid's melatonin that we bought. And Does that make you trip a little bit? I've never taken it. It does not trip. But you're Think about when you're super sleepy. You're super sleepy

and still awake. Yeah. And I accidentally we doubled up one night. Recently. And we're like why didn't you tell me you'd already had one? She's like, I forgot.

Fair enough. And the 20 or 30 minutes before she fell asleep when I was laying in bed with her were fucking hilarious. Yeah. What'd she say? Just like the low giggle that I would get whenever I'm like really, you know, I don't know if this is bad. It is melatonin. It's natural. It is melatonin. It's natural. It was not a drug.

But she was just like, she was low giggling like a lot. Like that's hilarious. That's so funny. Like Josh Howard. It's crazy, man. So this woman, there were four one-year-olds that got into it.

What do you guys think she ended up getting? She pled guilty. Okay, and you said that she took them up there by mistake? They were in her jacket, yeah. She wasn't, like, doing the 80s Halloween thing. No, but, like, I think it would be different if she was taking them to work to get through the day. But if it's just a severe accident, then... Even that could be a pretty severe accident.

I mean, yes, she had him on her at school well she's black i'm just trying to weigh all the yeah yeah thanks here a black person would get a little more unfortunately um fortunately or unfortunately i'm gonna say this is harsher than than you would think yeah yeah i hope it's a fine. It's not a fine. What would I do? I would say $500. You think it's prison? I hope it's probation. Please tell me probation. No, she's going to prison, right? She received a year for each of the kids. Oh my fucking God. And on top of that, three years for one count of possession of a controlled substance. That's horrible.

Which I believe is a really weird gray area in the law where edibles and things made from THC are called controlled substances, which is cocaine. When you get arrested for cocaine. when you get arrested for cocaine. So if you have wax or elixirs of any sort that's been distilled down, you're getting hit with coke, basically saving you a coke charge. So how much did they eat? It's a one-year-old ate a 10-milligram gummy?

It doesn't say. It doesn't say. It just says the name of the school, Primrose and Prosper, very popular daycare, and that the kids had to be hospitalized. But that doesn't mean anything happened at all. They just got ill. Like, the second you find out the kid had it, like, take them to the hospital.

Yeah. You know, like, just make sure that this is all going right. Yeah. I mean, I've always wondered. Seven years. I'm sorry. That's crazy. It seems crazy, and if she only had affluenza, of course, I've always wondered. Seven years. I'm sorry. That's crazy.

It seems crazy. And if she only had affluenza, of course, she could have got out of that. Generally, I don't think you should get serious time for mistakes. Yeah, like what's the point here? Killed people. Not like made them sick. I know. Killed. Mistakes sometimes into deaths, and those people have to be.

It's very tricky. Yeah, but I mean, like, Ethan Couch made a mistake, but it was as a result of just horrendous decision-making in a way that's way different than, like, you want him to approach life in a way that he makes fewer of those, or preferably no, of those kinds of mistakes. So that's what the punishment

is for, in this case. It's what it's supposed to be for, right? What are you trying to get out of it? Don't you think that if it was just a fine that this lady would take super fucking seriously, never doing this again, just having watched one-year-olds under her care go to the hospital?

That would be enough for me. Fine's also going to be a pretty consistent reminder. You know what I mean? You're going to be paying that off for a very long time. Lose your job. Lose your job, yeah. So I think that with zero jail time, she probably receives the message,

this was a bad idea, I need to be much more careful about this than I was. Or maybe just don't do it all over again. Like, if someone said to me, I had this happen and maybe just don't do it all ever again, like, if someone said to me, I had this happen, and now I don't do drugs anymore, I'd be like, see nothing wrong with that, you know, that's a good, that makes sense, I don't think that the seven years is getting you any more of that, if it, like, if it's going to have any, like, it's just going to make her life obviously worse, just by the fact that she's there. But then being exposed to those kinds of people for seven years

and the effects that's going to have on your nervous system. I would expect that everyone who goes to jail has PTSD from going to jail. I don't know. Maybe not. I've never been to jail. Could be wrong. It's tough. It seems tough.

Yeah, it is. Female prison, though. That just sounds hot. Go on. It's just fing It seems tough. Yeah, it is. Female prison, though. That just sounds hot. Go on. It's just fingering for days. Did you see that story you guys cover extensively, the British prison guard? Yeah, yeah. Real deal Holyfield, baby.

Yeah, when that popped up on TikTok. Nice. I believe we thought Jake had been ball sacked. Yeah. Well, I think the video going around was a fake. The first one. Yeah. I've actually seen a couple of those.

When we were making fun of them, the ones that we were watching were hilarious. You guys have figured out a way to still be right about this, huh? Yep. You could see how that would be true. You could see it, yeah. See, this isn't a move I would go with for you guys. I would just bring up the Happy Gilmore 2 thing again. We could do that.

Just get back on the year ground. They always have that in their pocket. That's also prehab, though. So you have that in your pocket. Like, anything you said. But you're the one who's doing that. I'm not using that as anything. This is Jake 2.

You're talking about Jake 1. Yeah, this is the year of Jake. That is definitely still true. Jake 2.0 here. It's on pause. Somebody said that the Dion thing would put it on pause. How? That is the ultimate year of Dan.

But it's not a taking away from the year of Jake. It's childhood idols. He's known me for as long as anyone. You don't think I'd be just splooging over Dion? No, because then... I won't say which, but he has several passwords that have Dion's number in them. As you're jerking it to Dion, you're thinking about Dan. Because this is Dan's victory.

Can I not hand the baton over to him throughout this year? Yeah, you guys can share. Man, I think... No. I'll let the people decide. over to him throughout this year? Yeah, you guys can share. Man, I think no. I'll let the people decide. Two weeks in, whose year do you think it is? We can update it every so often. Once Deion or Witten gets appointed head coach, then we'll decide. Yeah, right now.

He gets Witten. Right now, what is it? The year of what? Because it's been the year of Dan. I mean, right now it's the year of Jake. Thank you. That's what I want to know. I mean, right now it's the year of Jake. Thank you. That's what I want to know. My best friend's team, national champions.

I know, but just... So that makes... You're taking that? It's just how wide of an aura he casts. It's a runoff. And if Texas had won, you'd be like, oh, look, look, I'm year of Jake. What did I tell him?

And you're like, Notre Dame wins year of Jake. Notre Dame above Texas for me this year. He did say that. Like, Kansas City wins. Year of Jake. Everything's the year of Jake. That's definitely year of Jake. He went to a Kansas City regular season game.

And? Caught a pass from Mahomes. Twice. Twice. Okay, but. And only fell one of those. The day that we walk into Cowboys training camp and he is wearing the prime sunglasses and gets to talk to Dion, there's no way in hell this is the year of Jake if that happens.

How are you not wearing those the whole show every show? They're actually pretty sweet.