The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 1-27-25: The Cowboys actually hired Brian Schottenheimer and we Mystery Science Theater the press conference

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneThey tried to sneak past the hiring of Brian Schottenheimer as head coach with a Friday news dump. But it comes back around today as we Mystery Science Theater the introductory press conference. Plus, a battle of the weirdest thing you'll see today in Today in Twitter (00:00) - Open: We can't believe they hired Schotty (23:01) - The Cowboys introduce Brian Schottenheimer (01:33:56) - Weekend check (01:47:22) - Today in Twitter: Emilia Perez & Randy Quaid (02:00:05) - NFL Conference Championships recap (02:37:13) - News: Big weekend for ICE (02:55:40) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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I really have. Yeah. You've told several ladies to fire that top off. Yeah, it might have been because I watched that Chapelle show when John Mayer was playing. You know, a lot of people say, live every day like it's your last. But I was listening to a speech this weekend Her point was live every day like it's your first

Which is not do anything yeah, just kind of survey have it was lay there and Be amazed that you're sitting here Fox studio with your friends have some Not solid poop drink now what you do when you're first drink from a titty. Yeah So we're actually Live-streaming on YouTube today. Hello world The whole world can see us you want to do your you're not hit me up your do your new Roman salute and see if it passes the muster on YouTube well it's just that I want my heart to go 45 degrees.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. The angle. Heart. No, yeah. Yeah. Okay. That was the explanation? I think.

I don't know. It was crazy. Anyway, I don't know or care. What I do know and care about is the Dallas Cowboys have a press conference this morning. Uh, I was hoping you were right. Yeah, no, I was, you know, and it's not like wrong. I mean, we're all just fiddling around this guy I heard from who talks to people

at the star and here's Jane Slater's reports, but not only if you were going to call it wrong, were you wrong? It was the most wrong you could possibly be because not only did they not drag it out to the super bowl, they did it at five 30 or six o'clock on a Friday. It was incredible. Like it's the, it's the most way to hire Brian Schottenheimer possible. It was like, we're embarrassed to do this. Exactly.

We're just going to do it now. And then like, why didn't they wait till like two in the morning? In fact, why is this press conference going on now? Why not hastily assembled Friday night? Yeah. It's just like Mickey and Brad are there and that's, that's the only people allowed to ask questions. Yeah. It's just like Mickey and Brad are there and that's the only people allowed to ask questions. Yeah. They're dialing Shottie on Zoom. Like if they had done this during Super Bowl week, it would have got too much attention

and they don't want people, like hopefully, Jerry's thought I could do it Friday, then there's going to be the championship games and everyone's going to about that Monday, and even the big Cowboy fans are gonna be kind of like, okay well I got homes on my mind, I got the Eagles, I got this, and... I guess. I guess. And the craziest part about it is, you know, the thing we kept thinking was like, all right, well if they're gonna do something this underwhelming to the fan base, well, certainly Mr. Cowboy Part 2 is walking through that door with him. And there's no indication that Jason Witten is a part of this at all. So all the reporting on that front.

I can't believe that that's not going to be somewhere. Yes, but if not, yeah, if you you weren't I don't know yeah and then and then on top of that I think it might have been Edward or first reported that they had agreed with brought excuse me with Matt Eber flus with flus returning to the star and I believe he walked that back and was like oh they're gonna interview him because there's a Rooney rule. For coordinators too. Yeah so perhaps they two-ferred it with Leslie Frazier but the way this ends up is they interviewed. What if we don't hire you as our head coach? Can we just get you as the

DC? Can you come back? They interviewed. Or here, let me, our Google thing is running out. All right, let's log back on so we can prove that we interviewed you twice. It's still here? Yeah. They interviewed Leslie Frazier, who to my knowledge, no one else interviewed. They interviewed Kellen Moore, who might have had

like two other interviews, and I would have been ultimately fine with Kellen, but it ain't like he was Ben Johnson, or Aaron Glenn, and they interviewed. He's still going to be a Super Bowl coordinator. Sure, and they interviewed Shottie. No Cliff. That was Salah, Salah's the other one I was thinking of, and Salah got a couple of sniffs, but no Cliff.

They never roll Cliff Kingsbury in. Like you could roll him in today for his interview. In fact, that would be much more inspiring. Yeah, and the thing that I'm confused about is, who's gonna be the offensive coordinator? Like, so is Schottenheimer now calling plays? I guess we're gonna find out here in a minute. Yeah, well, I guess if the Joneses really are as cheap as we think they are,

they probably figure they can hire him, just pay him, you know, lower than average market head coach money. Well, they will. Because it's all about leverage, correct? Like hey I've got a couple other calls like Marty. Brian Schottenheimer does not have another call. I didn't confirm that. Not even like as a... I was gonna say I saw that his last interview for a head coach was in 2006. Which, is that when he was a hot name? He was a name, he was at least young at that time. He was the quarterbacks coach for the Chargers.

Then he was the OC for Drew Brees. Yeah, for Drew Brees. Then he was the OC of the Jets for a little while. But my point is just, they're still going to have to have a nominal offensive coordinator. Who is that gonna be? Oh, I don't know, why don't we go over to that very bountiful Brian Schottenheimer coaching tree and grab one of the assistants that he's,

you know, had under his tutelage for many years who can implement things the way he wants them to be done. Because you know, when like McVeigh or Shanahan gets hired, all of their guys get interviews and jobs. Brian Schottenheimer doesn't have a staff. Like who's he gonna, he's never called plays, or he's been a long time since he called plays, so he's gonna call plays now and be the head coach?

Like with McCarthy, you're like, ah, maybe. Well, he had a Super Bowl and he did it calling plays. No, there was, there was quite a bit of, you know, there were detractors, but there was quite a bit of reason for optimism when they hired Mike McCarthy as head coach. Sure. Here's a guy who, you know, does, has done it. He's a big old guy, looks like a football coach. He even got that. If Brian Schottenheimer's last name was Kemp.

Then he would be a politician in Georgia. Okay, if Brian Schottenheimer's last name was Jones well, then he'd be a football And he'd own half the point is yeah, if Jerry didn't know Schottenheimer's dad. Should I find that audio real quick? Yeah, I tweeted it out over the weekend. I should have had it ready for you, but it's just Search Schottenheimer. You'll hear you'll find it because we don't have a lot There's not a lot in there. But yeah, so I'm making a couple calls today

for the press conference, which should start here and they say five, but it'll be 15 minutes. Jerry's going to cry. Because of his dad? I think this means a lot to him. Marty meant a lot to him. And when he thinks about Marty, who cried a lot, I think Jerry's gonna get emotional just thinking about.

Marty cried a lot? Marty Schottenheimer? I don't recall that. Oh, it was him and Vermeer both, right? I don't remember Marty Schottenheimer being a crier. But perhaps if you can find that proof, he made me cry when I was a kid. The drive? Yeah. Which one? Yeah. When he led the Browns to the doorstep. Okay, so apparently this was Jerry talking about, or somebody was

asking him about whether Schottenheimer was just like a nepotism type hire. Good quarterback matchup here tonight. There's Brian Schottenheimer who turns 50 today. For the team he's been the offensive coordinator for the Jets, Rams, Seahawks, and now the OC for Mike McCarthy who by the way Mike started his NFL career working for Marty Schottenheimer back in 93 as an offensive coach to a legend in the business the late great Marty Schottenheimer Okay, so he started his career Yeah, I don't know if this will play from as a NEPO baby turn it okay. Oh Figure this out on the fly, but oh which one is it though? This is Jerry 14 Jerry 14. Okay. Sorry my bad

one is it that uh... this jerry fourteen jerry fourteen of a site there are people who think that the big part of the reason he got the position if not the only one is because his dad was the first one who gave mike an opportunity to coach in this league what would you tell someone who thinks that i don't think that i had some to do with it and i have identity causes daddy taught me a bunch of football

and the competition committee so uh So whatever he influenced my call. So okay so the question was about did Mike McCarthy hire him because Marty gave Mike McCarthy his first job? Yeah. And Jerry's answer should be no. He's an accomplished offensive coordinator. He's been in the league. He's been in the league. He's been in 10 different buildings and quarterback rooms. The guy's been around the block for 20 years. His merit stands on its own. Even if that's not, which it wasn't true.

You say it. But yes, that's what you say. But you probably also don't hold a press conference on your bus at the combine. And that's probably where that came from, sounds like. Yeah. Well, okay, so the question is was Mike McCarthy is he a nepo hire because Mike McCarthy and Jerry's like absolutely not that I had something to do with it and it was me I hired him oh really okay why I did it because his daddy taught me

a bunch of football on the competition. Hilarious. And they're laughing. He's not joking. But he's not, this isn't one of the parts where he's talking about a frog bumping its ass, whatever. Circumcising a mosquito. Where he knows he's being funny. So whatever he influenced my cone, I got a little of it too, so y'all can flip a coin

over. Who had to, uh... Okay, so it's not... You can flip a coin on which one you want to charge with nepotism here. It is one of us. Right. I think we both had to agree. I think that's there someplace.

But the bottom line is, certainly his lineage. Linage? Linage. Marty Schottenheimer, a former NFL head coach, was known to cry during locker room speeches and when discussing his career, he would cry tears of joy and tears of failure. Okay.

I just remember him crying a lot. Okay. And I think he cried on the air with the Musers one time and it was really weird. Oh really, okay. Yeah, I don't remember any of that. So I think Jerry. I don't remember any of that. So I think Jerry. I don't remember anything.

You know, he went through that little pocket a few years ago where it felt like he was crying a lot. At camp, remember? At the opening press conference. Hadn't heard him cry in a minute, but I feel like if he's gonna cry, it's gonna be when he's bringing in Marty's son. And he'll reference Marty's wife, Brian Schottenheimer's mom.

He'll be like, I remember old, you know, Laurel. Laurel Schottenheimer? I promise you she's gonna come up. So, Shottie is what everybody's gonna call him, right? Yeah, and I got a problem with him right out of the gate. Kinda reminds me of a rodent. Look at the face. A rodent, oh, he does? Yeah, got a little rodent. Look at the face. A rodent, oh he does.

Yeah, got a little rodent face to him. That's tough. He doesn't look like a guy Jerry could ride. Yeah, with a nickname Shotty, which I've heard Tactical Shotty, which I kinda like. Yeah, that's Fortnite. But he represents nothing of a shotgun.

Shotgun's kinda badass in your face, very powerful. I would think run the ball Blake really enjoys this hire. He's probably gonna pound that rock. How can we even know? Didn't- How do we know? Didn't they get rid of Kellen Moore? And right after that is when McCarthy said

he thought Kellen Moore should have run the ball more. Yeah. Like Kellen Moore just doesn't run the ball a lot and now Kellen Moore is in charge of the offense that runs the ball more than anyone in the NFL. Seven rushing touchdowns yesterday. There's some factors there. Who plays for you and Kellen Moore

actually is looking at the roster and saying here's what I should do with the. Crazy. You know what? Watching these games this weekend I know we we don't want to plays for you and Helen Moore actually is looking at the roster and saying, here's what I should do with the crazy. You know what? Watching these games this weekend. I know we, we don't want to get to the games yet, but it was making me sad and just thinking, okay, the, the time, the time wasn't last year, the time was after that second San Francisco loss.

So you lose to San Francisco. Right there you slide Dan Quinn in between the pipes and Kellan Moore is your offensive coordinator. That's where you made the change. That's where this went awry. Could have done it. Was that the hurry-up play where they couldn't spike it? Yeah I think so, okay Yeah, you could say game management was that Zeke running into a wall. No, that was the first First one No, cuz oh, yeah

No, cuz during the Green Bay year. He was in New England. Zeke was in New England. Yeah. So it must've been, I don't know. The point is it's very underwhelming this hire. Yeah, it's crazy. The playoffs are just full of, uh, you know, notable cowboy, you know, errors left and right as you're watching Dorrance Armstrong doing stuff. I don't even get lost in the weeds on stuff like that, but, because you could probably find that for any team.

You just, all you really have to stick with is Kellen Moore and Dan Quinn. In the NFC Championship game. That's all you need to know. Now, if you want to talk about the AFC, you could just point at, from a scheme and preparation standpoint, we're not even in the same universe.

All right, let's not get into the games yet. Well, think of it this way. In those games you referenced, the 49ers games and the Packers game, did the Cowboys do anything where you're like, oh, they brought a little something different to the table today? No, of course not.

And then yesterday you see Mahomes on naked boots, on rollouts, you see some of the stuff they were running for Josh Allen. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's. That was my takeaway is you had four mobile quarterbacks play this weekend. Yeah.

And even if you go back to last weekend, who would have been the odd man out? Might have been Stafford, golf, those guys lose. And currently, But they were still doing creative things. They still were. To try to give them a chance to win. The Cowboys were in a position of,

what if we just played you straight up and our quarterback can't run? You know what they need is a time machine. To either go back when the league was different 15 years ago and Dak would have been great or to seven years ago when he could run. It's crazy. It's a crazy, underwhelming hire. And I don't even know how they're going to sell it. to sell it. Well we're gonna find out. We're gonna watch the press conference and carry it live here and then offer commentary. Which is something that I know many people have probably done this over the years but I lobbied to do this at the station many times. But you can't trample upon sports credibility breaking news.

Yeah. Yeah. Now when we afterward play it over and laugh about it, fair play to you. Yeah, but we'll just do it all right now. But the Cowboys are the Cowboys. So they scheduled a press conference for 11. It's currently 1104 and they are not anywhere to be seen just as of yet. But we plan to be there for you.

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Didn't do anything. What'd you do Friday night? Absolutely nothing. It was great. Yeah. I made a fire for myself. Yeah. Yeah.

My wife was out. It was not, not book club, but it was just Jennifer and Karen. She actually has a friend named Karen. Of course. I feel sorry for that lady because my wife certainly is more the Karen in that group. But, yeah, it was a great night of just nothing, no responsibility. Ate what I wanted. I don't even remember what I ate.

But the point is then, so over the weekend though, it was very busy with the...you never think about it when you at first do it, but then you have to clean up all the Christmas stuff at some point. And so yeah, and every year it's worse, because you lose stuff, and I don't know. It's just a big ordeal. Have you seen those little things on Twitter or whatever? A little clip of people showing off their new house that they built? And they will build a giant closet where you can just take your Christmas tree and put it in there all decorated and then close the closet and it's there all year. I've not heard about that. Because really I'm

thinking right now because I put it up in the attic in above my garage so where we broadcast sometimes I will up you have to store the Christmas tree in there but all of the room we use for the giant Christmas tree boxes we have two of those to fit the whole Christmas tree in and then like seven or eight boxes for ornaments and things that go right all around the house like don't you, we're gonna go to a press conference. Oh Steven just gave the lap pat to shoddy Cowboy press conference is going to happen. Everybody's up there drinking water now. I think Jerry's got a

Christmas tree closet It's good to know that that buzz is definitely on the Cowboys in now that we're- Yeah, it's okay. No, I'm just saying- As long as we can hear them. That's a Cowboy buzz? Yeah, Christmas tree clog. That's a little too much.

Jerry could have a whole Christmas tree room. We'll just close this whole room off and- I like the process of decorating it. Well, I like watching other people decorate. Okay, I was gonna say. And my kid likes it. The take down sucks though. I'm just in charge of carrying the stuff out.

We still have one Christmas tree up. I told you we had a real, a normal one and a smaller one in the new room. It's gonna be a Valentine's Day tree. Sorry, Blake. Whatever. See, don't you see a little just rodent look to shoddy there in the middle this Monday morning here to the star at Frisco playing on the

stage who everybody knows of course Cowboys owner president general manager Jerry Jones. That's Tad, good dude. Our new Dallas Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer. Found out he had cancer due to DAC. Oh that's right. He didn't get cancer from DAC. He found out. Executive Vice President of Player Person that and co-owner Steven Jones Nobody wanted to clap for you now What we'd like to start off with is why what is tab like MC this from our head coach? Brian shot and I'm is this weird and then we'll follow that up with questions Thank You Tad First of all, I'd like to thank Jerry, Steve, Charlotte, Jerry Jr., the entire Jones family. Over the past years that I've been here, it's been

really incredible to get to know them, but I would say really over the past four or five days as we spent a lot of hours together that I really realized why this organization but most important this family is so special so thank you guys for the yeah of course the ball family the Schottenheimers to to the Jones, thank you guys for this incredible, incredible opportunity. And I look forward to working so closely with the entire family. This so came out of nowhere for me.

Continuing the legacy and tradition of this football team and the special brand that it has. I'm honored and privileged to be the next head coach for the Dallas Cowboys. He kind of has like a wet look going on with his hair. I'd like to just talk briefly about some of the people that we're looking for. And there's a lot of those young men

in the back of the room here. That, as you guys will learn from me, the shot-knivers tend to be criers. And that just means we show our emotions and so the type of people we're looking for that are modeled by a lot of the young men in the back that I will talk directly to them in a minute is... He's about to cry. Just a special group. We're looking for world-class competitors. Guys that want to compete every day to be the best versions of themselves.

Oh, God. That's new. That's different. We're looking for people with a relentless work ethic. I was taught at a young age by my father that you can't have people in this business. He mentioned his father within one minute. You don't belong in this organization

if you don't value relationships. This business has never been about that. Yeah, well, ask Jerry about that other daughter. It's about people. And when I thought about it, I can't imagine sitting up here with a better group of people. It's not about X's and O's, which is a good thing.

A better family to do this with. So I thank you guys for that opportunity. Cause those really baffle me. And lastly, the type of people that we want, people that love this game. Oh! The game of football is given to me so much, my family so much, but if you're not,

Nick Sirianni is headed back to his second Superbowl in what it represents here. So you're probably in the wrong line of business. You can't seem like a massive dork in your press conference. Let's take a look at resume. You are the core of this program. Oh no. And we will focus on you every day to DAC, the players, JT, JB, Demo, Brock, Tises, Josh Butler, Kaelin, Carson, Skoonier back there, I don't know if anybody else snuck in that I missed. It means the world to me that you guys are here. And I can't wait to do this alongside you. I guess we just found out who the little Dak Tattletail group is.

I want to capture your hearts and let you guys get a great feel for me. Yes sir, Dak, I'll go to the press conference with you. It means the world to me. That's the group that Micah will be... Yeah, I was going to say, you think Vite? ...will be tweeting about when he leaves for Philadelphia. Quickly about culture. As a free agent.

Oh, culture, good. Things that I believe in. Yeah, tell us. The family first mantra which is. Higher guys you know family. Have you heard of my family? To do and make the sacrifices that we make in order to. You know where I'd be without that? Pursue excellence. It requires the sacrifice and you need to make it fun. My conversation with the Jones has been incredible. We see football the same way. It's a first-class organization all the way. You can't, I've never been in the big room Jerry. I've never been in the big room. That's good. It's first-class organization but please understand this. They just let me get a haircut.

A first-class organization is not just about the structure of the walls, it's about the way that we treat one another, about the way that we treat one another, about the way that we earn each other's trust and respect. The way we give promotions out of nowhere to guys who you didn't think would get it? It mattered to us most. What I'm going to challenge these guys to do is to let their personality shine.

We've got some incredible, incredible players. We've got incredible support staff. They've been just holding back. Micah's been such a recluse. You guys took the time to come up here. Get yourself a podcast, guys. But to do what we need to do is take incredible amounts of hard work. But we're going to do it together.

Oh. Together. Our team, the Dallas Cowboys, will be driven by a competitive spirit and a love for one another. Dude, this is so Campo. Lastly, I would be remiss if I didn't think. For some reason I was more excited about Campo. My dad. My fam. No! He's gonna cry. It's been an incredible journey. I've had some opportunities when I was a much younger man that I didn't feel like I was ready. I'm ready now. You sure about that? I'm ready.

I know what I want. I know what it looks like. But for you guys that have been with me the whole time. I know what it looks like. My extended family, I love you. Thank you for being here. To my sister. His eyes are too small. I know she's watching. We got a sister. She probably has on my dad's Schottenheimer jersey.

We got a Kristen Schottenheimer, bros. Your sister has a jersey for when your dad coached. To my wife, Jimmy. It's been an incredible journey. Lots of ups, lots of downs. You've always been my my side. You're my best friend. And I love you more than you know. To my kids, Sutton and Savannah.

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Legendary coach. They know what the insurance companies are up to we know your dad was that's why you're there but he's an incredible father and he's impacted me more than anyone in this profession makes me feel bad for him I know he's looking down on me I know he's proud and I miss him very much but I know what he'd say to me I always heard like he had he's saying our I miss him very much. But I know what he'd say to me. I always heard like he had the same hour days and sleep at the office. It's time to get to work.

The party's over. I love you dad. Thank you everybody that's here. All the partying of being an offensive coordinator for some other guy who's yes that's part David more oh Calvin thank you Calvin Watkins Dallas Morning News this is for Jerry and Stephen why Why did you pick Brian Scheinheimer? What was it about him that you guys felt like he was the right fit for you guys?

What are we? Should that take that long? Almost 35 years that I've been involved with the Dallas Cowboys. I didn't know Leslie Frazier's dead. I've only missed one senior bow. 35 years. It was for Marty's funeral. And I think I missed one combat in 35 years.

At the NFL, over the last four or five years. Yeah, he's definitely crying. The NFL, we want to come in a day early so that we can visit with prospective coaches for the future of my team and any of the teams. team and any of the teams. In 35 years, I don't think I've ever visited with a coach, but what in my heart and mind I wasn't having an interview. I don't think I've ever had a coach visit with me that wasn't perspectively thinking maybe someday our paths might cross.

That's not that unique. An old Jones might give me a little thought as I'm along the way. Old Jones. I've been around a lot of coaches. We know. As a matter of fact, I wanted to be a coach. Except I wanted to live better than I thought coaches lived. I wanted to drive a little bigger car and I wanted to fly in an airplane.

Had I known what I'm paying them now, I'd have been a damn coach. But having said that, coaching is no, no, no, and the makeup of coaches are no stranger to me. On my college team, within almost three years, after we won the national championship, every position coach, the Johnny Majors, the Hayden Fries, the Doug Dickies, every position coach became a head coach. Barry Switzer at Oklahoma. So I've seen it when I was a pup. But those were good. Those teams were a lot. I have a good background in the makeup of what a coach is. To think that you could make a decision in an interview and not have talked if you didn't and hadn't ever communicated or had a visit I wouldn't dare have had an interview unless I talked to many many people that knew that person and had had those kinds of life

experiences knew their story if you will shadi. Shadi! Pat is here today Gene my wife is here. Pat the bomb.. Pat shot his mama. Told you. When I served on the competition committee we had many times that we were together. knew you what shoddy grew up around not just from that but we knew frankly from the standpoint of shoddy yeah those ex-hairs crossed ex-shoddy might never have been in our mirror or in our view. Mirror. Had to not join this to be with Mike as a consultant three years ago and had been a coach. I've sat in handfuls of meetings with Shottie.

I've listened, I've watched him, I've watched him have deference to his head coach. I've watched him have deference to experience. And I've watched him have deference to experience and I definitely know he knows how to have deference Right there Lip sometime when he didn't necessarily agree. Oh, you've watched it bite his lip But he bit his lip his daddy would have told him to bit bite your lip Have deference. I mean he's saying saying right now, is it yes, man? Yeah. I've watched him exercise those things.

He knows when to bite his lip. I've particularly been a part of seeing what's brought these players in here today. Guys like that. And I know that Shottie is no stranger to these guys. I know he's no stranger to this building. Now I get my proverbial ass kicked. He knows how to get here without ways or Google Maps. Card works on the door. Without this thing being about me in any way, if you don't think I can't operate out of my comfort zone, you're so wrong.

It's unbelievable. That's like, what the fuck is he talking about? As big a risk as you could take, no head coaching experience. That let me share something with you. With all of that. Are we still on question one? You've just heard him reference his osmosis, his family. Anybody in this room that doesn't believe the apple

doesn't go far from the tree has missed it someplace down the road. He has, yeah. He got hired from osmosis. Especially if there was an effort to make it that way. And there was an effort. Marty osmosis. But then you go around to the countless numbers of coaches

that Shottie has served on staff with and been around. The countless players. How often do you have someone that has 25, I want to say 25, it may be 26, of years? Of years. Working through the human relationship and working, aspiring to learn learn have his ears and eyes wide open and looking For techniques and looking for things that I think during that time Dan He was never hired by another team because take advantage as a head coach because he was just too young in the league Doesn't hire which is a guys in their 30s and 40s actually

Yeah, no quite a trend years Being around the kinds of things that he's gonna have to go he's busy like it's honestly gonna shock you guys how long he's been mediocre like crazy I like his bag his baggage or his package I was standing with shot when he called his mother. They're all over the place. We're gonna cry now. I heard the other end and I was listening to Shottie. Put my pants down. And one of the things he said to his mama is mama, I'm gonna get what daddy didn't get a chance to get or got a chance but didn't get. And I'm gonna get a Super Bowl if it kills me and his mother of course was emotional

this one will be for daddy the first one oh good will be for him I don't know second one's for Savannah I don't know where you come. I really wouldn't dare try to tell you how Jimmy Johnson got here. I don't want to go into all the psychological stuff that caused Barry Switzer to be here. Or Chan Galey. But it wasn't just about X and O's. And it was about things that were all meld in with some of life's experience and using my own osmosis, how I got here. All of that comes to play. Man, I'm looking at the Marty Schottenheimer coaching tree. I've read where we didn't have but four or five interviews.

I mean. It's ridiculous. Coward Dungey McCarthy. To think that you can make McCarthy decision to coach the Cowboys relative to the number of interviews that you might have. But it's a lot of Dom Capers, Dick LeBeau, Mike Malarkey, Dick Geron, Lindy and Farte, types. Freddy Kitchens, Rob Chudzinski. This sucks. This is the Freddy Kitchens hire. It really is. It's a guy who wasn't even a coordinator but he's kind of friends with the quarterback. And sometimes I don't know when I look in that mirror why the risk is taken.

With it there. So in case you forgot the current question. It was a huge risk to get involved with the Dallas Cowboys. Why did you choose? He's doing this to get a lot of people that quote unquote didn't understand or feel like it could be done. But he's trying to now make this as his gunslinger hire. This is outside the box. This is his deon.

This is his crazy hire. I spent a nice part of my early four or five years with the Dallas Cowboys. That's why it's crazy. You remember this is his crazy hire part of my early because five years with never cowboys That's why it's crazy and then why not coach Landry and defending why Jimmy would make a good coach Oh my god one time. I said he's worth five Heisman trophies To be a good coach Remember the other thing you said no no about new Jimmy one of 500 Okay, had I interviewed countless thousands of coaches no No, no, but I knew Jimmy. What, a 500? OK, had I interviewed countless thousands of coaches?

No. No. No need to. He had won like two national championships. This was a thorough, thorough process, shaded by whatever my experiences have been, shaded by my experiences with Steven and Charlotte and Jerry, shaded by my experiences with Stephen and Charlotte and Jerry

Shaded by many things he's kind of trying to say my kids are great and because I'm great So how could Marty's kid not be great? Well cross multiplication to some and it's all for Less than glamorous hire couched as Less than Glamorous hire. Yeah people are saying to you is I got here taking shots. Oh Pun. Yeah, I got here taking shots Good things have happened. Let me tell you something except for when I knocked that lady up

There is. Don't think for one minute I won't take a shot. You did this. This was risky. This is risky. This is kind of brilliant. The same token. This is just like saying all in is signing deck. When someone has had over 30.

This is the craziest, riskiest hire we've ever had. Now he's about to explain why it's not. But almost 30 years of being around coaches, of being around players. That's two-thirds of his life and then the rest of it growing up in a football oriented, NFL oriented family if you will. I will. I think this might make something special. So I'm all behind what we're, to say the very least, Clarence, for your benefit, I'm all in here. Fantastic. Stephen laugh.

All right. We're going to do a little mic adjustment here. Clarence Hill, All City DLS. You brought up risk, you also brought up Superbowl. What about this move gets you to the Superbowl? That's what the fans are talking about in Shoddy, by the same token question for you and for Shoddy. Now we're all we're all that familiar with them. What difference can you make from the McCarthy era, from a cultural standpoint that gets them over the hump. It's like JK.

My best friends. Yeah. And when you talk about what Mike and this football team has done over the last five years. By the way, I just want to remind everyone that there is a world where you are listening to beyond Sanders give this press conference right now. One of my greatest strengths is my ability to create relationships. Cool. Cliff, what have you done in the league? Well, I don't know. Respect. I just had a really innovative, you know, I've been able to innovate different offenses around different quarterbacks using their skill set as your relationships I've I've actually been a head coach the type of in the NFL and I kind of had that feel now room

I know there was some mistakes we had made bar excited about that And so no one's excited in the locker room I think as we build this thing out as the culture comes together of this team That's where I feel like my greatest impact will be felt. Relationships. With the relationships, the ability to communicate. All the best coaches famously the one at the home of the Patriots dynasty. Oh man. His relationships guy. Does this mean McCarthy didn't have good relationships? Why are they hammering this? That's the thing is, often when you He's a good, good-having, open, dialogue, hard conversations.

Why are they hammering this? That's the thing is, often when you hire a head coach, it'll be like, you're trying to talk about what you did differently. Yeah. And he's kind of the same thing, but way less expensive, I suppose. That's the key. Mike McCarthy left some good stuff here. Stuff. One of them was Brian. He did leave. Mike McCarthy's head coach.

Would you have felt better about Bones? Of course. He's been a head coach, he's been very successful at his coordinator. Very much so. And he's got a dad who was a head coach It would be an unknown at least what the offense is and I like the unknown as opposed to what I know Why did Schottenheimer's come to that decision? Well, what little bit we know about an underwhelmed One if they hire bones as head coach is because but then they promoted Brian Schottenheimer to play call on

offensive coordinator. You know, like, oh yeah. I don't know. How are you gonna sell me on that? They're like, whoa wait. Fantastic support among our players. Keep got it. I can't wait to hear Micah. So Freddie Kitchenzie. Yeah. Fantastic support. The players love this. On top, they've sent him when it didn't work out so well. That's an advantage here. That's a real advantage. That was big.

That was real big. This process. That's what she said. I've read where it looked disjointed. It looked untimely, it looked- You know he's reading it. The very nature of the process, the time after we played our last game, you've all heard me talk about how I felt about Mike McCarthy as being a good coach.

But that time, those days, to reflect with him and go through many things that we should and wanted to talk about That caused us to arrive at that But what we have is an opportunity to take some of the very best things But your hair color is good. Mike's doing. Thank you. Some of those very nice things. The very best. Add to it and be

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Where's David? Well, I think we always have to evaluate where it didn't go right last year. And obviously, we're also evaluating where it didn't go right in terms of the disrupt that people somewhere in terms of the championship game. What's the bet? Well, so he wears clear, cool guy glasses, clear frames, but then he wears like a slight tent on him. I like clear frames. I want to get clear frames. You think I should or no? You don't like it? I think you might be able to pull it off. You know, sit down. You have light hair, but I wouldn't want to tint. What we have to do better. I think we got a lot of great pieces. You ask why

Shadi? I think Shadi's the perfect combination of we know him in some continuity but also affecting change and we have to support that as well in terms of being behind him and doing the things he wants to do that I've walked in shoddy shoes I'm you know I've got a job because of my dad well working with Jerry. That's awesome. Only one reason I have this job. That's awesome. There's no other team that would sign me.

And you're clearly working out. The only difference is my dad's always been the boss, so I don't get fired. And I have 30 years of experience in the NFL. And if I was free right now, no team would sign me to work for them. And as he said, some of his best characteristics are communications and working with people.

Saying stuff. I see that. I've taken that in. I've gotten more respect to this process with him. What if some of his best characteristics were football knowledge? Yeah, yeah. What if that was your?

About the job. But certainly, we'll do a real deep dive. They're bringing in the team therapist. knowledge yeah about the job but certainly will do this is like the therapy they're bringing the team therapist is best whether it be through the draft free agency I know you know typically that you guys like the star lapel pin but we'll certainly look at it and kind of what will put really oh wait I forgot I'm supposed to stop buying merch, stop going to games, hit them where it hurts. Yeah, you know what?

Let's boycott the first game. Man. Chill. I'm not going to training camp. I am. I'm going to tell Matt Grimm on you. You know what's in the best interest of the quarterback certainly that played a role here. I'm going to Tennessee Titans training camp with Brandon Aubrey. I'll go to that one. I heard he was getting traded for. I can tell you every team who

made a coaching decision was looking at how they solved for the quarterback. You know that's how you win in this league. This is why you have this head coach because Dak likes him. One of the best solve for the quarterback. That's how you win in this league. This is why you have this head coach, because Dak likes him. One of the best, if not the best. They're just two missionary bros. In terms of our quarterback. And then they'll talk about it the next day. We just have to continue to put the pieces around.

If we did this just so Dak doesn't have to learn new words. They're not going to believe. I got a lot going on. I got kids. It'd be great if the only thing they changed is here we go. He doesn't do here we go. See, the loon shot him. That'd be very little wrinkle.

I've never seen a man more driven than Jerry. You know, this is huge to him to go get this champion. You don't need to blow him. You already got your job. It's the same thing. And I know our players sitting in the back. But he wants to. He wants full control of the empire.

We've got to get the right people to put around them. You know, we'll have a turnoff in our roster. He's looking over his shoulder and seeing, he sees Spalding. Steve Spurrier told me, I called him and asked him about Shottie as a ball player. That's all he talks about, they're gonna have to turn over this roster somehow. We're gonna figure it out somehow.

And all Jerry talks about is another old guy he called. In our national championship season. Steve Spurrier back up to Danny Werfel. Or excuse me, Shottie back up to Danny Werfel. Excuse me, Shoddy back up to Danny Werfel. Really? That was a big fan of. Throwing to Chris Dorn. Saroy knows. Told you guys. Why did y'all split up? Why'd you fire Shoddy if you fired him? How'd that happen? So we got into that. Well what'd he say? Real good. Coach has been effusive about the impact of not only his father, but Pete and the people that have shaped him along the way.

But it's kind of interesting. Oh, Will and his staff, they go to the next door neighbors of these players that were drafting or look at drafting and get that next door neighbor to talk about them at that time. Boy, you need to do that when you're dealing with a head coach. Now, I didn't have to go to the next door neighbor. What did my neighbor say about me? I was just thinking the same thing. I don't know, man. Yeah, I have to text him all the time because he leaves like his sprinklers broken and leaks into our yard

And I got a giant puddle in my thing seem to really fall off the table John Mishoda with the athletic for Steven my neighbor would be like well his dog hasn't killed my chickens They're outside. Oh, yeah Some of the stuff that was talked about well star that of Well, that or the open, like that big glass. They're not in the normal room. No, what are they doing outside? It's freezing out. Respect for what Shadi's role was.

Maybe they're on the field. He was our play caller. He was our head coach, and then he was our play caller. And Shadi was there to support him as the offensive coordinator. But I think some of the most important things for us, after you get to know the man better and you see the energy, you see the way he can communicate with Jerry, with myself, with the room.

Shucks up. Really good English. But the bigger thing, as I mentioned, we certainly want continuity, but we also want change. And, uh, this guy has a different name. You know, we, we need something that's going to freshen it up. See how long his last name is. It's so different.

The wing is coach, I think in the history of the franchise, you know, had an unprecedented, you know, three year run, winning 12 games. So, you know, Mike did a lot of great, uh, why didn't you just bring him back then? That would have been a lot better. Did you guys try? What happened? You know, that we did need change and we wanted to hear... Let's go there and ask what was the offer to Mike McCarthy. Sure. You know, it's not just the X's and O's. We obviously went extensively.

And let's compare that to what you're paying Brian Schott. He has to be the lowest paid head coach in the NFL. It'll be bottom five. Because they're like, look, you can make other money. You're the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. And my guess is they sold him the same thing they tried to sell Big Mike, which was in symptoms. Oh, dude. Yeah, he's like, oh, sure. What been the way of the league these days. He's making like 38-5. It's just with a four million dollar incentive if he wins the Super Bowl. Against Draw. But look, full benefits.

Yeah, you get to use the cafeteria. His haircuts are as many as you want. And this little lapel pin, here you go. That's high level of competition in college. That will be deducted from your paycheck. I was thinking about like Sean McDermott yesterday, the more we wanted and this press conference today. I think that was helping us. I think the only thing Schottenheimer could have done today was some sort of 9-11 thing. You know, Coach Schottenheimer. That would have made me be like, okay and for Brian real quick

Just what was that moment like when it was Jerry or Steven or whoever told you? Hey, we're moving forward with you You're the next head coach Humbling At every level. Again, I think I look back on my journey and you know, the fact that I'm sitting here with these two men in front of you guys, it's a great lesson for coaches. It's a great lesson for my kids, for some of our players about persistence.

And you get knocked down, you get back up, and you keep working. And I get knocked down. You know the best part of this is- Incredibly, incredibly- They're gonna try, but the media doesn't respect this guy. Honored to be sitting in this chair. Like they did McCarthy. Because it's such a- So when things are going poorly, they're gonna smell blood.

There's so many great coaches. Like, do you remember how it used to get with Campo? Oh yeah, not just Ray Stone. Like, they didn't really respect him. They're three and nine. And when it starts going sideways, they don't hold back on it. Really couldn't speak, and immediately I went to

Facebook. Seeing my father's face. If they start three and nine, will he get fired? And knowing how proud he would be. It's probably set up where they can fire him. And I'll say he turned around and called his mama right there in front of us. And that was very emotional.

Did you guys see us in Elvis Week by chance? I kind of set him up. I said, you know you are a first time coach. They did a bit that was very, very good, at least on paper. There's a play on edible arrangements called Edible Arrangements. The whole premise is which it's just gifts for sons to give their moms that they want to bone.

Like Oedipus. I don't, yeah, I don't know what Oedipus is. I know the word. It's about one to bone your mom. Oh, it is? Yeah, I can't remember if it's Greek or whatever. Mythology. Oedipus Rex? What is that? That's something? That I don't know. Why is that in my head? Yeah And that's how he found out. He started in my mind finding out. Yeah, this is the same stuff.

Right. Morning, coaches meetings. And now today we have a MILF tab. This year more often than not, I'd have my head down and just be sitting here listening. And all of a sudden that shot, it would pop the summer goat. Hell, that's pretty good. This is kind of a somber morning, that's pretty damn good. Okay, give us one example. Those are the kinds of things that give you an advantage if you've been... I just want to

say too, I plan on doing this show for a long time and reviewing this tape. Even if he's awesome We hear that were not it's still okay to say the process here was a disaster Nobody nobody no situation right all the boxes even if he's end up being good. They would have locked into it He won't Nick Harris for Star Telegram. This first one's for Jerry right here in the front Nice shackling You obviously need a the fans very well. When you talk to fans, fans are super impatient. They see two NFC East teams playing yesterday.

Obviously the job that we spoke to. Not me, but the fans though. These people are crazy. But why should fans buy into Brian Schottenheimer? Well, you have touched on one point. Our fans have been very patient. Don't pander to me. 30. And through you to them. So what's that jacket he was wearing? I want to tell them how appreciate that I am of their support. The Shack-It is like a sweater jacket.

It's a good look. I can't pull it off, but I feel like as a former hacky sack guy, you can. I don't even know if you played hacky sack Me grab a good look Tried it, but I'm not putting that up there much but to those fans who have been with us This decision to bring shoddy in is risky At all in any way. No, we don't think it's a Hail Mary. We think it's fourth and 15 and you handed the ball off right guard or something.

Or into the Dallas Cowboys and for me to end to it be into it is no solace at all. We're interested, they're interested, I'm interested in getting to those playoffs and winning. This is the best way that we can go to the playoffs and win. That tops off. My next one's for Brian, if I could really quick, you've worked with Dak Prescott for three years now. Obviously, he had a lot of support for you. What do you feel like you two can work on together to unlock even more of his game?

Well, before I respond to that, I'd like to go back with one thing, Nick. Remember my dad? I'm not doing this by myself. I've got the incredible support of Jerry, Steve, and the Jones family. The young men that are sitting behind you, we're doing this together. So that's important. My message to when we are three and nine. Yeah. Hey, dude, I didn't fumble the ball.

We're going to build this thing the right way. We're going to get the culture right. The exit knows will come. That doesn't matter. But I feel like it does. The X's and O's, I feel like they're gonna matter quite a bit. Incredibly humbling that they know what it takes to win too. So it's not just me. You're gonna go to training camp Blake. Just so we can have Dan. Dan's gonna tell Shottie to his face that he doesn't know what Humblind means. What do you feel like you can get out of him? What do you feel like you can get out of him as well? Yeah, let's remember my question, bro.

You know, Iron sharpens iron. I think it's iron. And I have an incredible relationship, just like I have an incredible relationship with all these guys. So the way I will unlock him to play better is the relationship. And we'll just talk about stuff, his new baby, and is the poop still solid yet? Did you catch that dude perfect? He had a thing in place where if you throw an interception, you come out. His dog attacked a neighbor lately.

He took the heck out and he's like, what? He pushed back. He's like what like he pushed back and the competitor in him is special and so so basically I can't make him listen to shit either the rest of the guys together yeah I kind of have this way I do think that actually no there's gonna be changes but like would he's the guy on is up there is Jerry ever saying you know what I just knew he knew when that hold his tongue and not just give his opinion of course like why would that be a prerequisite to getting a job offensively very it's the

only one but you're right yeah we'll have tons of he would be saying I know this guy knows how to make his voice heard some of the thoughts of things we want to do whether it's tempo or you know some of the different things we're trying to do with our reaction pass, the game running, things like that. Sure. Like you know what when we don't add another wide receiver or running back or whatever this guy's not gonna say a word. Mike McCarthy? Little lippy about that. Yeah. Yeah. Two questions the first. Jay Camden, Dumb Zone, No Public Productions. Jerry and Stephen both are we keeping mojo moments freshening things up looking for a change from a head coach perspective

that's going to key in on the offense this is a long question a really long question a really long question as far as modernizing the offense talk about solving for the quarterback what does that look like under a Schottenheimer era yeah again I go back to my days with Pete. That's the first time I consider the term Schottenheimer era. That doesn't feel good. The starting point for me would be things that our players do well. Does this make it 17 games? Yes. No. If your system's not flexible enough to do what your players do well then you'll probably have your own business. No, it'll have to live boy, dead girl for it to be less than one season. We're going to do a great job of marrying our runs and our passes and make those things. That's a big deal. Slow down, slow down.

I'm trying to write this down. I'm proud to say that two different times in my career as a coordinator, we let the rushing and they go hand in hand. The running game and the action passing game go hand in hand. But I would say... I thought you didn't know Axis and Oze, but listen to this guy. There's a tempo element. Who is that? Our players have all shown... God, I bet you feel like if you're on the team you have to wear Dax hat too.

Why do players like tempo? Well, they're kind of cool. Tempo because it allows them to play free. If they start two and seven, he's getting fired. No, he's not. We're going to run in fast. We've heard some of the play calls. Dak could rattle off four or five of them right now.

They're pretty long. So when you go fast and you're playing on the ball, these guys, it's a little bit more like pick up basketball. I know how temple works that I would say from an offensive standpoint from a personnel and roster building standpoint salary cap management as well for Jerry and Steven you guys learning some hard lessons especially from 2024 depth issues once you guys were ravaged by injury they didn't learn a damn thing yeah what they did was saying what if we didn't replace anymore?

Looking in the mirror is one way that you can learn things. I know the way he always wants to insert his opinion into his having questions. It drives me nuts. When you look at a team like the Eagles, just ask your damn question. Anything that you guys can kind of take from their strategies. I feel like this is still kind of the pregame of the show.

Can I vape? Back in the Super Bowl this year, that kind of could work for the Cowboys going forward. Yeah, I think you certainly look at that. I think you'd look at your competitors in your conference you know what it's gonna take to have success whether that's a 49er team or whether that's an eagle serious question with will ship lead the best back on the Cowboys Bug situation was good, you know what in this salary cap area. Could have used him now. Bug hits you hard enough. It's, you know, it can be difficult to overcome.

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Not like some old crap. When I bought the Cowboys. Like they got new stuff. What about the Cowboys? Your counterparts rode over with me on this little jet airplane. Rode over to my home in Little Rock, Arkansas. And we got off the plane. Was the lady on it? The one you impregnated? There's a five-year-old dirty Ford Bronco. Oh, yeah. He tells the Bronco story. And they got off and said, why do you got that car?

He's like, oh. This doesn't make a lick of sense. You just bought the Cowboys, and you're flying a jet, and you drive up here in a five-year-old dirty Bronco. God, dude. I said, it makes perfect sense. It's not the biggest beating of a car ever. No, it's not.

Like, a five-year-old car is not like. You've got to set a price someplace to get the other. If you try to have it all, you can pay the Fidler when you've used it to regret. I know Blake goes and has a meal with his grandpa pretty often and just hangs out. I did that a lot with my grandfather towards the end of his life.

I go once a week. They've got the same salary cap issue you do. And they've got the cause all teams are different. Well, I'll start to get really worried if my grandson starts having a weekly meal with me. Yeah. Well, let me tell you. I'm about to die. This is exactly what it sounds like.

You're like, oh, the Bronco, did you have one? Cool. Like, the same story every single time. Oh, you'll hear the same story. Grandpa? Time. When you're invested in players that have injuries. Yeah, I started taking notes.

Yeah, I started recording it. Because it's like a big thing it and the amount of notes I take now are way less yeah we've done this one yeah we've heard about the credit card it was when you bought the Cowboys you had a firetoblander if somebody thinks it's pretty you yeah I try to walk or trade we're talking and so you hear me whenever he's justifying one of his current day Why not this he's always got something from the Jimmy Johnson era Yeah, why did you can say see that work? Yeah, or the time was like how you did it? But why did you there really isn't one from the last 20 years? He brings up? I want our fans to know that I can manage Really good he brings up. I want our fans to know that I can manage really good. I do real well managing.

I know that that bank account's full, that that doesn't mean you got money. It just means you haven't paid your bills to 60 days from now. So you got to look around the corner. You got to be good at it. So he has told you why he's not spending on free agency. Yeah. Yeah. OK? And so that's what you see here. No apologies.

Everybody has to do it. We obviously hadn't done it well enough. No, Jerry, is that why you can't pay your coach more? I think our first two Super Bowls that I was involved in were before the cap. Because of the salary cap. And so we have to do a better job. Oh! That's what we've been saying! We just blamed the

cap. He actually finally said it. Well, the Super Bowls I won were before the cap. Huh. Seemingly meaning you have no ability to manage the Sour. And not spend in the future. And your dynasty. All of that said, we, and Steven, me, spend a lot of time in this area. And I'm not talking about just sitting there in the office on the chalkboard. I'm talking about 3 o'clock in the morning when you can't sleep, and you're sitting there

doodling that cap. Brad Sham, 105.3, the fan. Brian, how long have you been thinking about and prioritizing being a head coach and did this opportunity surprise you? That's from me. Humbly speaking, Brad. God, Lee, dude, we get it. Three for three.

I lost my monitor. Twenty years old, I was throwing the first touchdown pass of the 1996 National Championship season. I actually had a card in my wallet that I had written down a goal. in my wallet that I had written down a goal and it said I wanted to be the youngest head coach in the history of the National Football League I think at the time it was David Shula and that's my surprise and that's why I when a couple of these opportunities didn't work out for different reasons. Somebody else's fault. I thought for a while it might not happen. So did everyone else.

You did not become the youngest head coach. In a household. So it didn't happen. Your mentor, your best friend, see the sacrifice and the work ethic that he does. Someone told me his cute story. Cute. I bet he's not.

They said, hey, is Brian getting into coaching? And he goes, yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to talk him out of it. I don't want him to. And his mom sure doesn't want him to do it. But I did. And I think it was his really good friend, Bill Cower, that said a year or two later, he said, Marty, you're missing the boat. He said,

the fact that Brian got into coaching is a compliment to you because you made it fun for him. Because you made it fun for him. He respects you. And he's following in your footsteps. And so it's been a lifelong dream. A lot of work. But like I said, that note card was in my wallet at an early age. And right next to my rubber. It's been a long time.

Hey, you guys know how I'm a real cool manly bro and how every time I'm going to tell you a story, I preface it with, here's a cute story. I think as the conversations went and we talked more and more, no. I think there's a ton of reason. Steven's already touched on it. I feel like Brian Schottenheimer legitimately gets upset when his wife has book club.

I know the players. You are? I know our strengths. I know our weaknesses. You have to go to town? What am I going to do? Anyway I can go with you and just kind of hang out in the hotel room? You can put me in your suitcase? Sitting around and just discussing different things. Here we are. Let me say this. We wanted Brian to call the place. We cherish his relationship with our players. We want him to call the place. As my mind and our mind would drift around to alternatives.

I believe he doesn't have to speak for this, but I believe if he doesn't call the plays, he's probably not with the Cowboys. He doesn't have to speak to that and he might not know himself, really. I'm not talking anyway, talking down. But I know one thing, one of us, I think Jerry, said, have you ever thought about that if we've kind of gotten over in this area, potential head coaching with Brian to some degree, the conversation he's referring to. And Jerry said, you know something, if we went that way- Is this a Jerry Jr. hire?

As much as we've gone down the path. There'd be some there'd be some heartbreak here There'd be some there'd be some there'd be some Knock the slats out from under he'd be sad if you didn't hire giving you an idea of how the process was going You should hire him. What he basically just said is they were gonna hire him as offensive coordinator because he's that good at calling plays. So if he's gonna be the OC why not just make him the head coach? But he hasn't been calling plays! And then I bought the Dallas Cowboys. And my master's thesis was a role of communication in modern day football.

I've heard that one. Had I not had that dream, had I been sitting there, I was 46 when I bought the Cowboys. Had I not been sitting there for 25 years, every moment thinking about my guy. I was the more hungry he'd be able to chase. And I was doing that to the same mind get stagnant and lose the ability to be agile and pivot and end up crumbling from within While they are beaten by smaller upstart competitors Go out in the backyard with a stick and a ping pong ball and play a complete world series

I read it Xerox Kodak ass football team So that blockbuster ass franchise If you hadn't dreamed about it if you hadn't gotten ready to go when that damn train comes by You'll be grabbing air on that camoose You have had to have thought and pictured. He said camoose a long time Or you'll miss that damn track. I think he said camoose Yeah, you're at the all of your mooseosing the caboose, you got the caboose. That's all of this was there.

And why is the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys? You are the camoose. Dallas Morning News back here, row three. Bring the heat, Timmy C. Here we go. Here we go. You know, since your last NFC Championship game, this is the seventh coaching hire you've made. Here we go. Having said that, you know since your last NFC Championship game, this is the seventh coaching hire you've made.

Here we go, Tim. That's a unique situation among GMs. Others do not get that luxury. How would you tell the fans again how this unique system is working? Well, it makes it unique because- Great question. The Dallas- That is. I've been with the Dallas Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys have had seven coaching hires and it happens I've been here for those seven

coaching hires. That's awesome. Go on. It just turns out. You know, average time a head coach coaches NFL is about 3.4, 3.5 years that they coach an NFL average time. I'm not for sure what it is with the general managers. to coach an NFL average time. I'm not for sure what it is with the general managers. It could be less or more than that, but it's a big turnover,

especially the last 10 or 15 years with your there. And if I could ever think the story I just told him, I lived, I got up and I went to work, and I lived on that hope and that promise and I had a lot of gas and my point of telling the ping-pong ball and bad story was I live in those dreams and I live real good there. But I'm practical enough to know you can't eat those dreams. So you got to go put some hard, hard action to it. Life is real. But boy, those dreams are real there, too. I'm dreaming of the Cowboys playing in a game like the one I saw last night. When the Eagles were sitting up there with those Chiefs.

We've seen you in those games. You're the Redskins in that game. You're the one giving up 50. I'll never quit in those games. You're the Redskins in that game. You're the one giving up 50. I'll never quit dreaming about it. I won't that. He's going to cry. Jane Slater, NFL Network. Jerry, to a lot of us on the outside, it did look like this process took a bit. What was the reason for that? Did you ever...

At least she threw us in there your conversations with a fan that he would stay was there something that came up in those Conversations that you needed a change and what did he say or some of the coaches that you reached out to? Give you confidence That this was the guy that you needed particularly given some of the criticism about some of the decisions in the coaching in recent years Well, thank you for that. I wasn't aware of any clock. Where's the clock? There are a hell of a lot more important things than a clock. Take a long time to do this. How about the timing to do that? If I'd have screwed around with clocks in my life, I wouldn't get to be sitting up here.

By the way, you say, well, if you'd watch the clock, you wouldn't be sitting up here explaining why you hadn't been to a playoff game in all those years too. I understand. I get it. What? One of the fun things about this deal is you get to start a new clock every time you line up for the year.

And so I really can... Translate, please. Do you have Google Translate? Not block out the practical things because I don't care if it is the new year. If you're about to take your house away, that'll go from last year into this year. So there's reality that goes with it. I'm lost because I know how to deal with reality where's the clock okay and so to answer to answer that question is simply it never occurred to me there was a clock a clock at all well the problem is other guys are getting hired by other

teams. There is a clock. Yeah but not if you were never going to hire one of them anyway. That's a good point. And like the clock's not ticking on the other teams lining up for Brian Schottenheim. Also a good point. Relative to the clock of the NFL or the clock of that. I've really not had the experience of that being the determining factor. I heard this year that perhaps this is also why they wait. Oh, here we go. You're sitting right back there. You want to stand up and tell them you had something to do with that? No, thank you. Didn't get lamb side quick enough. Okay.

Oh, let me see if I can blame my players for the reason we were not able to do anything in free agency. And I understand the point, but I think it is fair to say that. So blame the players, even though you ended up giving them everything that they wanted, which means you could have done it earlier. Schottenheimer. Right. I love the way that you've reflected, you've sort of manifested how you want to get there. We know that Dak's big on that as well. How do you want to be remembered when you leave

the Dallas Cowboys one day? I'm tired of all this manifest and bullshit. You can't just believe things. You have to do them. It's about relationships. Number one is a champion and number two is someone that created one of the greatest cultures professional sports has ever seen. Ed Warder, WFAA back here in row four next to Kalashaw. Back with the Dexpress delegation. Brian my question is, Dak's missed a large portion

of two of the last five seasons with injuries. It's going to be, I think, 32 when the next season starts. He's a young 32. What's your vision? God, we're so screwed. The quarterback is already having these kind of decisions. What's your vision going forward? You know my homes, is he in 30 yet?

I know. Going forward. We talked about the other day, like the ages of all of them is crazy. I've had the best seat in the house for the past couple of years in terms of the first year. Year one as a consultant watching. Literally, I remember the first day I was in the building,

he came up and introduced himself, said hello. And we were just talking and people that we mutually respected and we talked about that. But being around the last couple- That's not a story. Years, my vision for him is he's one of the best. And through- That's not a vision. Coaching that he's going to get through the hours and hours and hours of time

that he and I will spend together he's gonna play elite level football and he's gonna lead us to championships and because I said because of the way I'm manifesting it yeah the way he way he prepares. This guy prepares different. You see the hip thing he does? He's all, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. This guy, I'll be coming down late at night and trying to get something to drink. And I just have to move around because my eyes are bugging out

from watching video. And he's still in the building doing his, I guess it's hot, cold therapy, whatever that is. I don't do that, but you might want to know what it is if you're the coach. He's dicking around back there. You might want to know a little bit about some crazy. All he's describing is that Dak has a kid at home and doesn't want to go home. I get it.

Why would you? I got so much to do that I can't be home for. Behind Ed Ward there, reach up and squeeze him on his neck and show him what a little problem is with your health. It feels like. God. How did that make sense? We're out of time.

Oh my God. Oh, Tad. Thank you, Jerry, Brian, for being up here for over an hour. Oh, over an hour. We'll continue with some of the other things we're gonna do after this. Thank you. We got a message coming to you from Papa John's regarding a new three-pizza special. Alright. Oh my god. There you go. The Cowboy Press Conference. He won't make it one year

That's the most fun I've ever had listening to one of those I'll tell you that Nice touch on the music there Well Brian Schottenheimer did that so just his him talking invokes violin Jerry didn't cry but he got close mm-hmm same with So just him talking invokes by Lin. Jerry didn't cry, but he got close. Same with Shottie. Lot of mom talk though. Lot of mom talk. And we learned. Well, you predicted that,

and now you're just wanting us to remember that. We're just doing a summary. Oh. We're simply doing a wrap up. I didn't predict that the head coach, especially in this era of the NFL, would be like, X's and O's, they don't really matter. You know what, I mean, that'll come.

Really, most people know to build a championship team, what you just need is really good relationships, and then the X's and O's follow. Like the football. We're gonna run it, and we're gonna pass it. Yeah, those two it yeah those two things we're gonna get anything she wants to do those will be together you know it's crazy and we got a play where are you with me we fake running it oh yeah oh have you checked with the league office on that? They call it play act, P-L-A-Y, A-C, then there's no dash or anything, but there's a space in between those two words, yeah.

So sometimes guys get hired and the media shoots holes through their bravado and their bluster like Dan Campbell and you're like, this can't really be real. And then other times guys get hired and they have like crazy specific scheme ideas and you're like, oh, okay, we'll see. What if I just showed up with nothing? What if I lower the bar? I'm not biting any ankles. I have not promised anything.

I have not promised this team will have a different culture. No. I have not promised that this team will be hard to play against. But they'll all know me and I'll know them. They're all gonna know that, they know that my dad is someone they never heard of, but he was somebody. I swear to God.

I swear. Oh, really? Well, what was it like then being on the sideline of a Superbowl when your dad was the, uh, well, actually he never made it. He wasn't that, I mean, let's slow down, but he was really like, he was, he was great. And he knew Jerry. Like he was on the competition committee. My mom knew him. It was that. My mom's right there. I called her. It was that deep. Did you know that I called her after I got the job? And she was like, really? Holy shit. My fail son? Yeah. Yeah, this is fantastic. This is fantastic.

Let's give a little love to Ownwell. Oh. Because I believe the whole tax appeal thing, I think taxes are due on January 31st for homeowner taxes. So you still have some time to check out Ownwell's I think taxes are due on January 31st for homeowner taxes. So you still have some time to check out ownwell.com slash the dumb zone. I don't need to know that because I'm on auto appeal. So what does that mean?

Once you sign up, they checked it, they saved me a little bit of money, and then here going forward, they will check on it every single year to make sure I'm getting the best deal. Yeah, our buddy Jimmy Nelson was telling us they do the same thing for him the other day. Like, oh, Owen Will check on it every single year to make sure I'm getting the best deal. Yeah our buddy Jimmy Nelson was telling us they do the same thing for him the other day. Like oh, Ownwell's on it. How long does it take you to sign up? Less than three minutes. Online? Online. Wow. If I can do it you can do it

and it doesn't cost anything to sign up. I think about Ownwell with the Cowboys what if they were just like, you know what, we'll call you and just give you a really good, we'll talk to you about stuff, and we're going to really believe that your taxes will go down. Now, how are you going to do that? We don't really have any way to do it. We're just going to talk about it. Like, they would never do that. They are the X's and O's. They're going to do these things that need to be done for you. They are the X's and O's. They're going to do these things that need to be done for you. They're not going to just talk to you. They're... it's unbelievable, this whole cowboy thing. Anyway,

most people do get a reduction. They... an average of $1,148. Did you say that? No, I didn't. $1,148 is their average savings for people, and other companies will do this, but they will take more of a percentage own well You will pay them 25% of whatever they get back if they get you nothing back You will pay them 25% of that which is Something it's not no it's zero. No, you'll pay them That's awesome. The point is. Kind of set you up for an easy rhetorical math joke there. And yeah.

All right. ownwell.com slash the dumb zone. Thanks to ownwell. Thumbs up. Ownwell. You want to do anything before a break? Like a little today in Twitter or something? Or what are your thoughts?

What are you guys thinking about today's show? Let's do some today in Twitter, but it's going to take more than just a couple minutes. We also didn't finish our whole weekend check. I only started to tell you that I- I'll hit you with a little weekend check. Put away my Christmas stuff. Had big plans to watch all the stuff Dan asked me to watch.

I did none of that. What's on that list? Springer. Springer doc, good. Vince McMahon. I'm only telling you the Springer doc because I feel like that's your wheelhouse. It's on the list, man.

Like you're. I wanted to watch it. I really wanted to watch the Tom Green doc. You built a lot of. Inventory. I didn't watch that either. What I did instead was. I watched the finale of Squid Game.

Ah. Yeah. That's kind of how I felt about the first one. I did the weird move of, hey, I've got a lot of time here, what if I were to just hang out with a friend? So against my best laid plans of going to bed early, my friend Brevig of Five Minute Strangers singer fame Oh good.

was in town and he came over and we just shot the breeze for about five hours. Is he pissed at me? Did you jam? We did not jam, the instruments were not there. Is he mad that I gave your album? It didn't come up, which makes me think he probably just didn't want to talk about it. Okay.

Because he did text us about it. My daughters reviewed the album and we're not kind to Brevik. But it was also 17 year old Brevik. Yes. I'm sure they'd be great to him now. Yeah. Well, we just, we just talked, hung out, caught up, visited and then watched SNL.

Yeah, I had an issue with something you said about gathering with friends. Like you said, I think it was gay to go to eat with your buddies. I did that Thursday night and I felt great. Good to see them. Didn't have to drink. Share a little appetizer.

Shared some chips in case so. There's nothing wrong with it. I enjoyed hanging with my friends. But I kept thinking about you like, this doesn't feel wrong. This feels great. I'd rather turn it into a night out. Like really just go after it.

What about lunch with a friend? Cause I will do that. I have a lunch schedule for Thursday. I've done it a couple times in the last few months and I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Like it's just a friend lunch, not a business lunch. Yeah.

I'd rather eat alone. And that's the thing is I honestly thought about the weekend check and like, am I going to lie and say that I was busy when Brevig asked me to hang out? What am I going to do here? And I just decided let's hang out. And, uh, before that I went to the Fort Worth stock show and rodeo, uh, or as it's known over there, the fair for white people. Really? I've never heard that, but.

It's the exact same bit. Like it's the same rides, it's the same, you know they have animals just like they have at the fair. Do you take your kids or you just go by yourself? No, the petting zoo really is, it gets me going. No, we took the kids and they loved it. It's a good time. We have Kristen's family, her grandfather was,

for lack of a better term, kind of a carny. He would travel to various stock shows and carnivals with exotic animals that you could take photos with. Oh, okay, he wasn't like two foot tall. No, but he was involved in the game. No, he did not have, his wife was not the bearded lady. Son wasn't goat boy. But he traveled the circuit,

and now they still have that business, and it prints money, dude. They got miniature horses and baby goats, and people will stand in line for half an hour to get that photo, and we get the FastPass. All the other kids are just. They have a FastPass at the? No, they have a, her family runs the booth.

Oh, oh okay. Every year we get the stares and the glares from the people who have been waiting as they just open up the rope and our kids walk right in. See that's where, when I would go to the fair, I would always make my kid ride in a wheelchair. Yes. And then you could just yeah you can get in anywhere with that. Mm-hmm. And she hops off and runs to the front of the front car. It's great. It's a fine time though. I mean it's I it you know what you're getting into. Honey we got to shave your head again. I saw it

right. It's fair time, we have to. Look, I think I would say this regardless of the political party, but I honestly also think it could only happen right now for one, and really probably only for Trump, but like a kid in front of us who was taking a photo, like a seven-year-old girl who just has a Trump sweater on. Just seems weird to me.

Not as weird, Sunday morning at the rec I saw a kid who was probably in fifth grade in a Jalen Hurts jersey and that bothered me a lot more. So you liked it better when your political t-shirts would have a Hitler mustache on the president, not just promoting the president. Yeah, something classy like that. Yeah.

But also, just put it. Yeah, I never remember anybody being so stoked on Clinton that they would have a Clinton t-shirt. People had Obama shirts. They did? The image of a art image of him looking up. But even then, that's weird. I just think, and a child is just strange,

putting a political shirt on a child. I don't know, it's just weird. But it was a good time But it was a good time. It was a good time. And then yesterday, TC and his family came over to watch football. All right. Let the girls play.

It was a good friend weekend. It was a great football day yesterday, man. Really was. Nice and cold out. Oh, we had the fire. Had a fire. Yeah. So I went to my nephew's soccer game which is played at a massive indoor complex in Wiley or I guess technically Murphy. That's great.

Indoor? Oh yeah yeah yeah no I've been to yeah enough outdoor soccer games but yeah it's super cool you walk in there's basketball courts over here indoor soccer volleyball it's massive. There's basketball courts over here, indoor soccer, volleyball. It's massive. And so I'm not the biggest soccer fan. So when my nephew wasn't in the game, I would- Trust me, we know that Establish the Run guy is not the biggest soccer fan. I don't think anybody's shocked by that.

I mean, they'll just fall down and fake an injury. Can you believe it? Soft. Anyway, so I'd spin around and I'd watch some of the basketball games behind me. And the game behind me, we had an all black team and an all Asian team. Ooh, okay.

And I was interested. All right. So the game tips off and the Asians just start to get demolished. Just physically overrun a little bit. A little bit, they couldn't get any rebounds. They were small, I guess they were playing five guards. I don't know what they were doing.

But in youth basketball, you cannot pressure in the back court. Correct. So the other team is just waiting for you to cross half court, and then they'll just double team you and steal the ball. And I was getting so mad at the Asian team coach, who was like Asian, of course.

Well, I don't know, they had that German guy coaching the US soccer team. It's a dad, it's always a dad. I'm like, you have the smart kids, we can beat this one-two-two trap. Well, that is the most racist thing we've ever said. That's like, just be on our level of stereotypical racism. Pass it to this kid, pass, stop dribbling.

That's clearly a racist thing, because the coach should be the smart guy then, right? Yes, he should, but he kept trying to set a pick at the top. I'm like, brother, just pass the ball. But your kids will understand what you're saying. Trust me. God. I just, I don't know, I was getting really mad. So you're not even paying attention to your nephew or whatever. I don't care. I think he scored. I don't know. Sure. He had fun. Yeah, I was just, and it made me realize I'm going to be parent, like I'm not gonna yell at my kid or get mad if he wins or loses,

but if the coach is just not calling the right plays. Are you gonna coach? That kind of made me think about it. Okay, cause I've- That's how it starts. I've always been a coach. I think it would be fun. I didn't, I really hated when my daughter

went on to like high school and now you can't coach and I have to be in the stands and I have no say in anything. Yeah, I always, but I thought I could be that guy. Like I'm just not care, I'm not gonna care. I don't need to get animated. I don't need to be that. And you're getting animated about a team

that you don't have a kid or a. I know, this is an eye opening weekend for me. You gotta resist that urge. I heard Ethan Strauss talking about that on his podcast that you don't have a kid or a? I know, this is an eye-opening weekend for me. You gotta resist that urge. I already eat in Strauss talking about that on his podcast, like watching a basketball coach for his kid kind of give his kid instruction that he's not sure is right,

and it's like, what do you do about that? Because once you open that Pandora's box, first of all, you're that dad, right? You've broken the seal on being that dad. Does that affect your kid somehow, is're that dad, right? You've broken the seal on being that dad. Does that affect your kid somehow as the coach like, ah, I'm tired of this kid. Also hit the cages again for softball. Preparing for your softball season.

Yeah, and you wanna talk about the blind leading the blind? It's a dad trying to teach his son how to hit. Did you try or you were watching? I was watching. Yeah. Did you have problems with what he was doing? It's just bad instruction. I don't know.

Load earlier or whatever, just, okay. I get, yeah, when I went to the cages before our last, I guess the Jack White game or whichever, whatever game we played in, I was having a tough time listening to, it was actually a dad and a daughter, and she was swinging on the fast-pitched softball cage. And they were there before I got there,

I was there a long time, and they were there after I left. And he was just hammering her. That doesn't seem fun. Doesn't seem fun at all. So yesterday I went to my parents' house, my dad was watching Lethal Weapon. OK.

I know you've done this bit before. But it seemed like every time I passed through, like I just heard this. Remember to take these in automart. This guitar riff. It's the best. It's the best. Or this.

The saxophone. Saxophone, the jazz. I'm telling you man. It's incredible. So 80s and early 90s action movies had a view of cinema that we have lost. That was peak. I walked in and just saw. Oh, some bare naked breasts.

Just a couple. I walked in and saw a boob and just walked back out. Didn't mean anything though. It didn't have anything to do with the story. But yeah. But we had to throw that in there just to make sure we know that we will do this. And that's how the movie starts.

Oh yeah. With boobs. Yeah. Some coke. Right, and then you never see him again. She's about to die. Yeah. Tone setter.

Good movie though. Greatone setter. Good movie though. Great movie. Hey, before we go to break, let's just promote our remote. Okay, the one this week is at Rivian, Rivian Dallas. Like they're making us, this is such a big deal that we are doing a show on Wednesday instead of Thursday. That's why I have that lunch on Thursday. I put that together. I'd like to book that up. So it's their grand opening,

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I'm used to not doing a show. I know. Oh wait, I guess that means Business Wednesday is Business Thursday. Mm-hmm. I'll throw everything off. Okay, what's next? Oh, you wanna take a break?

Sure. Okay, we'll do that. The Dungs of Dungsumb Zone. Dumb Zone. Dumb Zone. Dumb Zone. Dumb Zone. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. All right. Shoddy. Shoddy. Shoddy. Shoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Cowboy Michael Irvin decided he would do his own YouTube video which will will

play that tomorrow it's insane. Dez is mad. Ah is Dez talking? Yeah he was fighting with Kay Von Tibbado of the New York Giants in a you didn't do much in your time off. Should we do today in Twitter? Sure. Is that Dez? It's not. I was saying sure, because I thought it was a nice opportunity to move things along. I'm sure Dez though is on Twitter.

That's where you know he's mad. Yeah, he is. And like I said, he got into a big, basically anybody who criticizes Dez now, he's like, you just don't, you don't get it like I do. I'm doing it for the players. You'll know someday. You'll get it. Maybe. You'll get it like I do. I'm doing it for the players. You'll know someday. You'll get it.

Maybe. You'll get it one day. No, today in Twitter has a bit of an entertainment bent today. Once upon a time, Dan used to try to watch all of the Oscar nominated movies. I don't think he still keeps that tradition up. Trey might be getting us those movies, so I might.

Do you just like to go ahead and... Pretend that I'm going to. Out one of your friends for a pretty serious federal crime right here in the lot. It's not a federal crime at all. Those movies are all readily available, probably. Okay. The key is not to do it on a company server. He also takes all the mattress tags off of...

Yeah. It's called Interpol. He also takes all the mattress tags off of, yeah. It's called Interpol. Yeah. But this first one, like I said, a little bit of an entertainment bent to me today, this was sent to me by Blake. I don't know any of the Oscar movies at all.

So when I saw this clip that Blake sent me and it said, we have to play this, it's a clip from a guy who does movie reviews for Barstool. And he said, this just got 13 Oscar nominations, and it's the worst movie I've ever seen. It's called Amelia Perez. Have you heard of it?

Is it with a really short black lady? She the star? I don't know her, I don't know if she's really short or not. Okay. But. I can't remember where I saw a really short black lady promoting. It appears to be.

That looked bad. I don't know if it's better for us to watch the clip. She was green. No. I don't know if it's better for us to watch the clip or explain it to you first. I think I'm gonna go with explain it. It's a movie, apparently, that is a cartel,

thriller mystery comedy musical. Yeah, this says musical crime comedy film. Okay. Where a cartel leader, a cartel leader, a Mexican drug cartel needs to get rid of his former life. He's on the run, maybe he talked to the feds I think, and to do so they went ahead and hit the topical button of becoming transgender. So we have a cartel leader who needs a sex change operation and when he does this it opens up a whole world of problems they did not imagine. It's also a musical. Let's play the clip.

We're in a doctor's office. Would you like to know about it, madam? I want to know it all What is the protocol? The techniques and the risks How many operations? How much time do you need? Mammoplasty Yes Vaginoplasty

Yes Rhinoplasty Yes Laryngoplasty Yes Mammoplasty Yes Vaginoplasty

Yes Rhinoplasty Yes Laryngoplasty Yes control laryngoplasty What is that? Adam's apple reduction Yes, yes, yes HAHAHAHAHA

To woman, from penis to vagina That's the part right there where it just sounds like if me and my buddies in high school were talking about this From penis to vagina. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. The hell did I just watch? What you just watched was a movie that's been nominated for over a dozen Academy Awards.

Dude, show that to your grandpa. OK, I will. Do it. And I'll roll on it. Show him that clip. Yeah, this week's lunch. Run the Ball Guy doesn't like that movie. Oh.

No, no, right? No. Yeah. What the hell, what are we doing? Okay, so yeah, 13 Oscar nominations for Amelia Perret. Songwriting isn't one of them, correct? Let's rhyme something. Yes.

Do we have to rhyme something? Yes. Yes. Or like make the song catchy oh, it's catchy well, yeah, I guess those words So yeah tune into the Academy Awards whenever that's going on so that's a movie that's in and it's got like dude It seriously has let me look at it the audience score wise 28% ouch That would be the lowest critic score Let me look at it. The audience score wise, 28%. Ouch.

That would be the lowest critic score, uh, movie to, I believe ever receive a best best picture nomination, like by a lot. Okay. I kind of think I need to watch the movie now. I thought the exact same thing. What's it called? Amelia Perez. That's it called? Amelia Perez. From penis to vagina.

That's actually what it's called. It's called From Penis to Vagina. Nah. It's like from here to eternity. Right. From penis to vagina. So our second clip here is also from the world of entertainment and you know how there are times when Like somebody gets a really important role in a movie and they kind of become it

Like you might say that acting you might say this method acting or just culturally like you might say this about the guy Gary Sinise and Lieutenant Dan Because he's a musician and he did like the lieutenant Dan all-star band for charity for wounded warriors Okay, didn't know that Off the top my head I can't think of any others, but you know what I'm talking about. Got his legs cut off just for the movie. He did, and then had to just lean into the bit. But it happens from time to time, right?

Like the guy who played Shooter McGavin. Yeah, that's a great one. Was just Shooter McGavin for the rest of the film. That's a really good one. Yeah, he seems to be really into it too. Yes. So in this case, we're gonna to go to one Randy Quaid. Randy Quaid has been off his rocker for some time now.

You've probably seen videos of him on Twitter, on social media where he's rambling about the government and about 5G and it really seems like he became his character from Independence Day. Russell Cass or Case. Russell Case in Independence Day was like a former, he was a veteran who was living in an RV and he was anti-government, he was off his rocker, but at the end of the day they needed him to save the world by sacrificing himself for humanity. but he was crazy do me a favor

tell my children I love them very much that's him right this is speaking of Marty Schotheimer, I might cry. Alright, is that enough? Well, unless you want to get to I'm back. And he saves the world. Oh. Saves the world. Okay. Cool. Well, I think that character might've stuck with Quaid a little bit.

And the clip I'm about to play for you went super viral on social media, which makes me think I'm pretty sure we can play it because it's very vulgar. And if it gets kicked off YouTube, then... That's the thing, it won't hang on YouTube. Wait, where is it from? I'll tell you when to stop it. He posted it on Twitter.

Then it's fine. Yeah, it's just... Yeah, it's for monetization, which we're not doing today. Alright, well we're going to give this a go. So he's super anti-government. One of our problems with business is not monetizing. He's yelling about the government, he's yelling about media and entertainment.

This is like a two minute clip, but I need you to strap in for this one. Hi, I'm Randy Quaid. Can we pause? And this is my wife, Evy. I help. So Randy Quaid is sitting in a. Why is she in a lingerie?

That's gonna become apparent in a minute. So Randy Quaid is sitting at a computer filming this video. He's got his Randy Quaid beard. Huge white beard. Huge white beard. Huge white beard. He is wearing a blazer with a shirt underneath it. We will talk about that shirt in just a minute. Behind him, as he's about to explain to you,

is his wife sitting on a bed in lingerie or in some state of undress. She wearing sunglasses, he wearing his normal crazy conspiracy spectacles. And it's in very standard death. The lighting is poor, they look like they're in a shitty hostel, you know? Okay.

Yeah. Media giants News Corp and Warner Brothers Entertainment earn well over a billion dollars for the film's Independence Day and Christmas vacation. What did I get in return? A Warner Brothers exec, Bruce Berman, stole my house. And News Corp's The New York Post continues to smear me to high heaven with a pack of lies.

For good measure, Warner Brothers even had my wife and I falsely arrested six times by TMZ. No, for real. That's really how it works. Hashtag PMC. Police media corruption. Don't know it. BADUM!

Law and order, maybe. Evie and I have been put through a living hell. A living hell of biblical proportion. So how do we retaliate? What do we do? Well, I still have a few tricks too. This is the very same shirt that I wore in ID4 when I saved the world. Another act that Rupert Murdoch still hasn't thanked me for. So Rupert, you want to fuck me? He's very upset at Rupert Murdoch. I'm gonna fuck you. He's gonna hold up a picture of Rupert Murdoch.

Put this on. With eye holes cut for his wife. Now she puts that face on and she is wearing Rupert Murdoch's face. Oh no. And she is bent over and he is now behind her. Maybe you'll thank me for this. He spits in his hand. Oh no. behind her this he spits in his hand no and he is now going to at least

pantomime having sex with his wife he's gonna angle the camera up a little bit so you can see his face. We'll wipe out police maybe a corruption! Yeah Rupert! Yeah! I'm back! Whoa. That was not what I was expecting. That was not what I was expecting. So, Cameron is right from behind as she wears a Rupert Murdoch mask. Yeah, yeah, he's got a few tricks up his sleeve too, and if you think you're gonna F him Rupert, he's gonna F you. Okay. So there is today in Twitter.

And that was today in Twitter. And that was Today in Twitter. Whoa. Yeah, a couple listeners sent that to me and they're like- Why can't we monetize that? A couple listeners sent that to me and were like, all you got to do is hope that Dan hasn't seen this by tomorrow. Hey. Yeah.

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Before the game was lamenting the fact that I thought it would have been cooler to have Romo doing the game where, against the team, with the teams he played against most often and all that kind of thing. And same thing for Brady, you know, to be able to break him down the bills and kind of his little rivalry and the goat conversation of thing. And same thing for Brady, you know, to be able to break him down the bills and kind of his little rivalry and the goat conversation of Mahomes.

Yeah. But we didn't get that. We got the opposite, unfortunately. And I guess that'll continue as long as CBS owns the AFC. Yeah, even with like the mixing up of the networks and the picking games and the packages, when it comes down to the big ones, you're still going to get it AFC, NFC. I thought that just would have fit better to be able to have those guys talk about those

teams. But the Washington run is over, Rob. Sorry about that. It was the case of, you know, look, no matter what happened, they just getting to the playoffs was a big enough deal for them. Of course, defeating Detroit, huge. But it was just too much. The whole Philadelphia... I think Philadelphia's underrated, dude. I said it Friday. Yeah, and that's crazy, because you're right.

But I mean, they have the number one defense in the league and they have Saquon Barkley. And Saquon is such a big play threat. In fact, his first carry, correct? Yeah, I was thinking, when TC got to my house, I told him he had missed the first two drives, and I'm like, this is pretty much how the national championship started, where Notre Dame,

now Notre Dame scored a touchdown, and Washington ended up kicking a field goal, but massive drive, just conversion at third down and long, fourth down. See, I don't know that that's the game Washington wanted to be in. Well, that's the thing. I almost think they wanted a shootout. They did, yeah, so they get this grinded out, like we made two fourth downs,

we made some long third downs, finally we decided to kick a field goal instead of going for it on a third fourth down. What did you think of that? Dude, I don't, I hate to kick it, but. You kind of think, let's not have a 17 play drive and come away with no points. You're on the road, I mean,

I know you should be shooting from the hip because you're the dog, but felt like you had to get something on the board. And you'd already made two of them, so maybe you're thinking let's not get greedy. In my gut, it bothers me to kick there, but I understand it. But my point is just that Washington ate up

half the first quarter and they're like, hey, look, we can do this. And then just like Ohio State, Philadelphia scored immediately. Yeah. They're like, oh, we probably can't do too many 18 play, eight minute drives. Was it Brady who was saying, somebody said something like, it's weird to have a big play offense that is run oriented. I don't remember if it was him or not, but that is very junk play from runs is they are a cool magic.

Yeah. And it makes you think about old Zeke. Yeah. You know, it, it, it is, and you know, if you have one of those guys, it's a big deal. It's a huge weapon. Um, just even the, the occasional 15, 20 yarder, that's a big, a way bigger deal. Yeah. And Saquon is unbelievable. He really is.

Like, cause he's also not physically imposing like Derek Henry. Yeah. He's more Emmett. He reminds me, I was gonna say, he reminds me of Emmett Smith. Yeah. That you're, and he's also not,

he doesn't seem like he's the fastest guy in the world. But he'll just burst through there. And all of a sudden he's there. He runs at his own speed and then he's, yeah. Then he's there. And I'm probably saying this because I would've preferred Washington to win and I did bet on them. But I felt like they were in that game other than the turnovers.

I know that's a Micah thing to say, like, oh, except for the bad plays, we were pretty good today. But they were not better, so they did not deserve to win, but a few fumbles and turnovers here and there just buried them, just buried them. I thought a nice, you know, it is sad seeing Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore,

but I also thought Kellen Moore dials up its fourth and five at the Washington 45 with two minutes left in the first half, and they dial up throwing it deep. Yeah. Completed it to A.J. Brown. Yeah, it's ballsy. I think the fact that they can do so many different things, you know, that Hertz can do it with his legs. The Hertz is he injured, is he not? Question throughout the week is probably what caused a lot of people to go ahead and bet on Washington. Sure.

He didn't look great against the Rams. No, but... He was on point yesterday. That was also, you know, the weather was... True. Incredible there. But yeah, he is so, he's, you can't say I'd rather have DAC than Jalen Hurts, right? No, but I do think there was a time not that long ago where DAC was as good as

this version of Jalen Hurts, but it's never coming back and it ain't right now. Yeah, and even I saw somebody saying it was kind of a people are talking about Jaden Daniels as the best rookie quarterback ever and somebody online jumped up and said oh yeah well how about let's take a look at this rookie quarterback put his numbers up against it and it was Dak. And they all look very similar. You know, the yardage, the passing statistics, the record, if you care about that as a quarterback. But one that was huge, I think Daniels had like 800 yards rushing. And Dak, even as a rookie, it was like 200 yards. And like, do you understand what that means? If you have a guy that is basically an extra running back on the field at all times, like that's huge.

Yeah. And you could say that about, obviously about, you know, I think somebody pointed out yesterday that Josh Allen is the best third down back in the league. And then you obviously get what you get out of Hertz. So it's not even just Jayden Daniels, but it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, I think somebody pointed out yesterday that Josh Allen's the best third down back in the league. And then you obviously get what you get out of Hertz. So it's not even just Jaden Daniels who's like a dynamo.

It's that other teams, other teams have a way to get offense out of their quarterback's legs. And then Mahomes just doesn't do it all the time. He just, but when he needs, he ran 10 times yesterday. Yeah. Like, and that's the thing. And you know that's gonna happen. Like he does it every year in the playoffs now.

At this point, it's a thing. I like Brady. I like Brady announcing. And the reason that I like Brady, and this is the reason he can't be doing the, he can't do Brown's Jags or something. Like he can't be on that beat. He has to be on these big games. And I'm very proud of him for he will criticize. He will be quick to criticize Hertz. He was talking about him holding the ball too long, showing on a replay. He's like, that's where you let it go.

That's where you let it go. Because right there is when such and such is breaking free and it's awesome having him do it. Like Romo can't do that because you would say to Romo, Oh really, that's what you would have done. That's what like, that is what Brady would have done. Which is ridiculous because Romo, you know, was very good. Played quarterback better than all, but 30 people watching the game at home. Which is what Brady would have done. Which is ridiculous because Romo, you know. Was very good.

Played quarterback better than all but 30 people watching the game at home, but with Brady, it's like the final nail in the coffin of like, what are you gonna say? Like Aikman could do that too, but he hasn't played in a long enough time. Plus, I don't know. He's a different personality too.

Different personality, different guy. But Brady also can do a lot of these things because he, his career in the beginning, he was kind of game manager guy where you're just like, okay, is he that good? Is he Kyle Brady? Like what's like, he's fine, but he's not blood. So he's not putting up 4,000 yards, but then he turned into, aired out, 5,000 yards, 50 touchdown guy.

Like, he's done everything. Dude, it's even to a point where when he talks about like an injury-prone player, he can be like, you don't have to always be that way. You know what I mean? Normal commentators are like, that's just a tough break for you. Whereas Brady's like, how much avocado?

You can not get hurt. Right, you can pay a lot more attention to your- Yeah, so he's just unassailable on every point. He gets upset when the play is correct, but the execution isn't there. Like he'll be doing a replay and like, gotta make those plays. Like he gets frustrated, like seeing it all.

You could see him in the film room perhaps. Like hey, if you don't make that cut, you're not gonna, or mad at the quarterback for not making a throw or whatever. He's on a different level. I really like it. Who's doing Super Bowl this year? I think them.

Yeah, Fox, right? Is it Brady? I think so. Yeah, Fox, right? Is it Brady? I think so. Okay, good. Let's see, what else in that game did I care about? Oh, this will lead us into some audio. This is going, now we're going tush push and we get it, brotherly shove. KB wants to bro down

say brotherly shove as much as he can. It is kind of too bad we're not doing Romo in the Super Bowl just because of the just so much we could just mark everything and yeah the whole thing and we have a lot of audio to play but how about this play where Washington kept going offside at the one yard line? Were you still watching? Oh yeah. At that point? Oh yeah. Okay. Because this wasn't the fourth quarter? Yeah. I don't know. It was the start of the fourth quarter and Frankie Louvue had two and Jonathan Allen had one. They had three straight encroachment penalties. Yeah so the one dude kept diving over the top.

And after a couple of those, the ref, Ed Hercules' son, if you want to talk about, you knew his dad and that's why he got the job, Sean Hockley comes out and he's like, hey, if they keep doing this, we're talking unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. So then they did it again, but they didn't dive over. It was a legitimate offsides.

But it was still like, hey, we just told you guys not to go offsides. They kept going offsides. It was at the one yard line, they went offsides. At the half, they go offsides. And then I think even KB talks about it here, but this is where Mike Pereira jumps in. And I thought this was awesome, and I had never heard this before in my life. I don't know about you. Here we go. Mike, how close can they put this ball to the goal line at this point? Well, interestingly enough, you've got a situation here.

If these are deliberate, and you heard Sean Hockley say that it could lead to an unsportsmanlike conduct call it could also lead to awarding a score if it happens multiple times like this so we'll hear what Sean has to say. has been advised that at some point the referee can award a score if this type of behavior happens again. For now, it's a replay of second down. Imagine the fans being a fan. Well, it is to keep this happen. Deliberate acts like that to prevent a score after a warning, even though it's two separate people here, can lead to what is called a palpably unfair act. That's how it's defined in the book. And you can do as a referee

whatever you'd actually like to do. Is that the first time Pereira's ever offered anything? I like Pereira, you don't like Pereira? No, I don't like any of these rules guys. Well, I want to compare him. Generally, I'm with Blake. I think Pereira is the best of the bunch, the tallest little person, but that right there,

that's what you're there for. To tell the audience something they don't know. And really, I do wanna do the comparison with CBS, but when you're watching that, you're like, well, they have to jump off sides or let them score. You cannot try to, you have to try to time that play out. That's the only way to stop it. So it's either let them score,

which you probably just should have done. Or you risk this palpable unfairness thing, which I found out actually was implemented in 2020. Really? In what? 20 or 2016? Uh, 2016, 49ers, uh, or the, let's see here, the saints are up eight on the 49ers right before half,

and they didn't want to give up a touchdown. So they just kept holding the Saints receivers in the end zone with under 10 seconds left on the clock. New Orleans was awarded five yards, but with only a few ticks remaining, they had to settle for a field goal. The league quickly acted, sending a notice to officials a couple of weeks later,

which resulted in the palpably unfair act, normally a 15-yard penalty in restoration of the lost time on the clock. In this case though, it would have been a touchdown. That part has never... Okay, so that's what led to this. Yeah. All right. Now I thought that was awesome yesterday. I thought it was really awesome that Pereira pointed it out before the referee said it. So, my thing is that I think I want those guys to be there to give their opinion one way or another. And my charge is that Gene Sterator on CBS never gives an opinion until after, and then he will be like, oh yeah.

This, oh yeah, they, they, they, like, he will, I think I've brought you evidence on this before, where they will show him a play and he'll be like, I don't know, it could be one thing or, anyway, so that happened yesterday when the in the Bills game where the defensive back and the wide receiver both kind of caught the ball at the same time and so it's kind of like well who do you rule like there was a challenge on that and here's that yeah he was yeah he threw the

challenge flag but I don't know Buffalo is challenging the prior play with respect to the possession of the ball by the defense prior to being down. We'll replay that now. Gene, you've taken a look at it already. I mean, is there anything, is there a winnable case there for the Bills? You know, I think we're gonna take a look.

The ball's all over the place there and it may have hit the ground, but I think we're gonna take a real good look at it as we go to break Jim. Oh, okay. The point was he'd been sitting there watching the replay already. You're the replay guy. What do you think, G? Well, it's close. The only thing you should do is sit and watch that replay.

It's close. Because that's your job. And he's leaning towards saying incomplete because he's like, ah, ball might touch the ground there. Yeah. But do you have the next piece? Well, no, then they went to break and they come out of break and they gave the ref and he never even talked again. I thought he did. But to your point, the ref say the catch was upheld and then he comes in and says, yeah,

look, the ball does hit the ground, but you know, it doesn't move and his hands were under it. So you're right. I think he just panders to what the call is on the field. The point is that he didn't do. Yes. He will. After the ref says something, he will say something. Is that the worst challenge you've ever seen in your life?

It's pretty bad. It wasn't a good one. There's a defensive holding. Yeah, but it saves you 16 yards, I think. Okay, so Patrick Mahomes, I'll just back you up 16 yards and give you a first down inside my territory. Is that worth a time out and a challenge? If there was no holding then maybe, maybe it's worth it because that ball was moving.

So the result, oh look, Mahomes has the ball at the what 18? Yeah, something like that. Dude, Mahomes is so good. You said it last week like you he's always the MVP. Yeah. He's the MVP. Like what what is within you as when if they're trailing or something and they've got a drive to like he's going to do it. Yeah. Even that drive that got him the touchdown. Was it the yeah to, to go ahead, eight minutes left? I don't know. He's just unbelievable, dude. He's so cool.

They've won what? Is it 17 games in a row now? One score games? Yeah, 17, one score. Obviously, every one this year. This tweet- 11-0 this year, yeah. This tweet from a guy from the AP is what I was trying to pull up.

Patrick Mahomes has trailed in fourth quarter of nine playoff games. He has come back to win six and forced OT and two others before losing. He has a 132.2 rating with five touchdown passes and one run touchdown went down one to eight points in the fourth quarter or OT or playoff game.

Leading scorers on 13 of 14 drives. So when he's trailed in the fourth quarter or in overtime, he has scored in the playoffs 13 of 14 times. Essentially if he loses, it's because the other team had the ball last. Yeah. And they ended up being perfect. Every year he's been a starter, which started in year two,

he's gone to the AFC Championship game. Yeah. Yeah, and he lost to Brady in the championship game, lost to Brady in the Super Bowl and lost to Borough once. That's it. Which is why I think from a historical standpoint and a legacy perspective, I do think the three-peat thing is a huge deal. It's the only thing he can get

over Brady. He'll never get to play him again. He's not gonna get to seven Super Bowls. Well, who knows? I guess he could. It just... He might get to seven Super Bowls. You know, you just gotta... I mean, they keep rebuilding the team around him. Yeah, and look, Xavier Worthy was great yesterday. You know, everybody thought when Rashe Rice went down earlier in the year, like, oh, they have no other options, but Xavier Worthy was good.

And Keon Coleman for the Bills had a better year, but people forget. People forget. The Bills traded up to take Keon Coleman, and they traded with the Chiefs, who then took Xavier Worthy, which is not the only time these two teams have traded in the first round, going back to when the Chiefs traded up

to take Patrick Mahomes. That was a trade with the Bills? And the Bills did not, because they were set with Tyrod Taylor. Oh, wow. That's a tough one. Boy, what a. I know, it's all connected.

What an incredible rivalry then. Yeah, and I don't think it's like. The Bills keep beating him in the regular season. Yeah, and I don't, you know. And every playoff game just gets swatted aside. I do feel bad for Josh Allen and the Bills, but they did not play their best game. So we can talk about the ball spotting,

but that just kind of feeds into the whole Chiefs thing and Adam Schefter carried his water Sunday morning with a report on how the league's gonna get to the bottom of this. That was fun to watch on Twitter so Adam Schefter put out that tweet, you're right carrying the water for the NFL. Yeah. But then a lot of people started putting out, okay well here let me give you a video of the last seven roughing calls on Patrick Mahomes. And he was getting just hammered.

Yeah, every one of them, the league said was legit. Yeah, so yeah, he actually has been called for more roughing, but yes, they were all very legit. And I saw Mitchell Schwartz, former chief, bring up the point that I think you made the other day, which is like, yeah, they have less penalties. That used to be called good coaching. Yeah.

What does run the ball guy think about spotting? In terms of whether there should be a chip in the ball? Yeah. Are you chipping the ball guy, too? Yeah. OK. Yeah, it seems outdated that we just kind of peer over there and look down. First down.

Yeah, it seems weird. But after talking to Aubrey, I mean, it might throw off the physics of the ball. Well, they have a different k-ball. Yeah, that's the thing. They should use a different ball for that. I don't know. I mean, I know there's a chip in the ball. How it all works, I don't know. I mean, I know there's a chip in the ball, how it all works,

I don't know, but I know that when you run sneaks and tush push, you run the risk of the spot not being right. That is an inherent risk in that play because the ball is covered up by bodies and arms and jerseys and there's no way to tell if the tip actually got to the yard line. That was a bad call, but that's part of it. It's so funny watching the Eagles do that and then watching every other team try it. Isn't that weird? It's just night and day, because when the Eagles do it, you think this should not be in the game.

It's too easy. Yeah. And then the Bills try to do it with a bigger quarterback and they can't do it. Yeah. And he top dove, which should have been a fumble. You won't see Hertz do that much. I try to extend over the top of it Bad idea and they were wondering with Kelsey retiring would it be the same with hurts injured?

Perhaps would it be this yeah, and the other thing too is Philly has more off of it. They have more counters off of it It didn't appear the Buffalo did They just kind of ran it to the same, I mean, Roman was calling it out. Like, they're going left a gap here. Yeah, the Chief scouted it. Yeah. Who knew it was coming? And then, I mean, the first possession of the game,

Allen threw two passes to Kansas City. You know, they were getting a little bit of their own luck on fumbles and dropped interceptions, too, so So I don't think they got just jobbed. I think they got outplayed. You got to be perfect to beat Kansas City if they're playing well. Yeah, and I was a huge fan of the Bills because I needed it for my futures bet that I placed. I was thinking about you. And Eagles got it pretty easy, but then just needing the Bills to beat the Chiefs and needing to have Mahomes fail, it just felt like it was impossible. I didn't like it.

I didn't like rooting against Mahomes. He's too good. And you're right. Yeah, you gotta play perfect to beat them. And the refs. And the refs. Did you see that picture flying around of the ref in Kansas City? I'll send it to you.

You don't have it yet. We could use it on today's show if you want. Hey, by the way, I mentioned this on Friday and was like, man, if they lose, I'm not going to get to bring that up. I'm sure that Woke Us did not treat this the to bring that up. I'm sure that woke us did not treat this

story fairly when it happened and I think everybody's just trying to learn and move forward but you know Ethan Strauss has been all over this point you think we're gonna get a big feature Super Bowl Sunday about the punt God no way well you should. Just because he was unfairly accused of- Yeah, I mean the same media that's gonna be covering that game were the ones who made us all think he definitely did this, he was there, here's what the recording says, I've talked to the DA,

he gets run from the league. Yeah, I don't think, it is, in a way it's a feel-good story. But just anytime you have the term. Yeah, I don't think the, it is, in a way, it's a feel-good story, but just anytime you have the term gang rape, it's not gonna be on the pregame show of the Super Bowl. Well, I think they're telling personal interest stories, and here's a guy who nearly had his life ruined through no fault of his own, and the same media that's gonna tell the stories about how this guy's

daughter has cancer. He's like, I didn't even do regular rape. Yeah. I do get thrown off whenever somebody talks about that. They're like, that's a brutal gang rape. I'm like, I don't know. I don't feel like there's a whole lot of it. Not a tender, loving, a candlelit gang rape. Is there ever a candlelit gang rape?

Nah, I don't feel like it. Do you wanna do audio today? You wanna do the rest of your Romo audio? We have so much. Yeah, go for it. Why not? Okay. This was just Romo with a funny voice.

Okay, yes. You wanted to bring up? Yeah. I think Romo, like my dad, routinely just messes up cultural references by about a word or two. They're doing a replay of a stiff arm. I believe the Buffalo running back had a stiff arm. You wanted to see more running of the football and they come out with a good five yard run and then this one goes for 33 with Cook. Yeah and you thought he could have went inside but look at the stiff arm Get out of here and then he keeps going and I telling you he is a special player

He's got to get more touches than the four he had in the first half That was half of what he had in the first half in the first two plays Yeah, the running backs only had eight attempts in that first half by the way a nice block down the field by Hans So what he's doing there is Mortal Kombat, but instead of what Scorpion actually says in that voice, which is, get over here. And if you grew up in the Mortal Kombat era, you know that. Romo does, get off of here. It's almost.

You play just that part again. Get out of here. No, no, it's not get out of here. It's get, if you play just that part again. Get out of here. No, no, it's not get out of here. It's get over here. Blake knows. Get out of here. Yeah, no, I was a big Scorpion and Sub-Zero guy. What was the green one?

Was it called Jade? I didn't play the future ones. Unlock, see that. I think this next cut might illustrate just the terrible chemistry that these two have. Not an Ants fan at all as you know, but one guy sees one thing, he tries to one up the other and be, oh, you said that, so I'm going to add this. And by the end of it, you're like, none of this is any good.

Boy, looking down the field to long pass plays the hollands one for a touchdown that one setting them up at the doorstep is that gave davis force that hot big game gave that for touchdown catches wearing number thirteen here a couple years back in that epic well the past two years here this week

jamesworthy game now it's big game James worthy, big game Gabe. Now it's big game Hollins. Like we're already stretch Armstrong in trying to say that James worthy and Gabe Davis are in the same universe, but they both have a long a in their name. Right. Gabe Davis did wear 13. He had some big plays in Buffalo. Oh, big game, James, big game. Oh, big game James, big game Gabe, big game Mac Hollens.

Just nothing. Makes no sense. The chat says reptile was the green one. Was reptile the green one? That's great. I forget we have a vibrant chat working. This is the one where I think Mahomes got sacked and one of his linemen got pushed back. Oh yeah.

And his linemen had a name that triggered something in Nance's head. And then it leads again to just terrible chemistry. He actually walks back Caliendo right here. He picks him up and carries him three yards into the backfield gym and he showed up him and Jones and Oliver last week and he does it again in a huge situation. He just tossed him aside. I wasn't sure if it was Mike Caliendo or Frank Caliendo trying to hold him off. He definitely was going, oh here we go, free and right! Here we go! Tony over to Worthy. Oh, God. So what we're doing here, breaking this down,

the game film afterwards is, yes, Nance has been holding onto that. Hey, they got a lineman named Caliendo. Don't know if we'll ever bring him up. Ooh, we're bringing him up, cool. Wasn't true. How can I do the Frank thing, okay. And then yes, then you had Romo imitating Frank

Caliendo imitating them. And then Jim Nance imitated Romo who is imitating Frank Caliendo who is imitating Romo and Nance. Yes. That's exactly what happened. And then they just had to get back to like a really basic play. Awkward promo read. Again, more this is the title of the cut. This is Romo and Nance just not having chemistry so Romo's trying to make a football point but then he also just can't plow through. If he hears producer in his ear, okay. It feels like the games over Dennis not like that was it it's not three timeouts but Patrick Holmes has the ball up three second nine and I believe the theory I'll tell you right

after you do a pro go ahead let's go so right after the game Morris chestnut stars in the new CBS original series, Watson, his mystery begins tonight on CBS Sunday. All right, back to the game. Right now, the same theory I told you about Josh Allen. I have never heard someone sound more like a hostage doing a read. Like, you know what it is?

What it is is exactly like the stuff we do to each other, we do at the station. Oh no, no, no, do your little birthday. No, no, no, no, no, yeah, read the thing. Read the thing that was really good. Everybody's been waiting to hear it. Let's hear it. Let's hear your great promo.

That's because after the game tonight, I don't know, Watson, the new show. There they made black. Yeah. This final cut really illustrates my disdain for Jim Nance. Because he needs you to know that he is the smartest person in every room. That's why he loves to bring up Gabe Davis real quick.

Gabe Davis, guess what? Number 13. Like, so then that's where Romo, he just can't be silent in a room, so he has to add on some stuff he thinks is funny and then he get the bet. But, so, he's going to say something that turns out to be erroneous and instead of just moving on, like, because now we're moving on, we have a real game going on. This is a very exciting end of this game. But he keeps bringing it back up, and he keeps bringing it back up, and he keeps, like, even at the end, when we're way beyond it, he's going to bring it back up one last time. And what this all stems on, it was a play happened and then there was a flag on the field.

At least that's what showed up on the screen. It said there was a flag on the field. He just desperately throws it up in the air and completes! So what happened, this was the play, is the very end. It was a fourth and five, but then Spagnola actually dialed up a blitz. Been holding back on that all day. They haven't been bringing the pressure like usual but then finally they saved this blitz for then. It was brilliant. Pretty awesome. He just desperately throws it up in the air. Incomplete. Kincaid was right there. There is a flag. is a flag. I didn't see a flag thrown there. I told there's a flag. I know but this is Spagnola pretended to not blitz. Safeties are back and he sends a corner blitz. No No, it comes free. He waited all game to send the most exotic pressure Comes from this side look at the corner. He's gonna come Scott Fried never would you think he's coming and right there?

completely Takes the hopes and getcaid almost got there. Could have caught that one. Josh Dornan. Game's not over right now. Three timeouts. And we had the report from the sideline that there had been a flag, but there was no flag.

There was no penalty. Who gives a shit? It's gonna be the first time out, Paul. That's what I'm saying. Play by play guys give a shit. Yeah, we did not, the game just ended. Dalton Kincaid, massive drop. People are going to be talking about it all day the next day.

He keeps bringing up the, remember, that wasn't me. I just want you to know, there was a report, somebody else said flag. What a dork. Someone else said there was a flag. Like I just have you all to know that I am the smartest guy still. I did not make a mistake there, someone else did. And credit to Robo. And I'm going to point out did not make a mistake there. Someone else did. And credit to Robo. And I'm going to point out that I made,

that someone else did. Yeah. Just so you know, like, yeah, but this, this really exciting play, I'm breaking it down. No, no, no, no, no. I know, but remember when I said flag, that was not me. That wasn't me that said flag. It wasn't my fault.

That poor spotter. You know, he got the death stare from Nan. Oh yeah. I got fired. Yeah, right. Just poor spotter. You know he got the death stare from Nan. Oh yeah. I got fired. Yeah right. Just like his wife. Like he'll be watching Brown's Jags. By the way in that clip something that I think I've noticed this before never pointed it out. I'm very bothered by Tony Romo's use of the word pretend. Like no one else said what they'll say is like oh a lot of times what Spagnolo will do, he'll show Blitz back off. And for Romo, it's, and here's Spagnolo,

he's gonna pretend like he's gonna Blitz. Hey, here's, you see Mahomes here, he pretends like he's handing it off to Kareem Hunt pulls the ball. Now he's actually throwing it. Pretend? That makes me like Romo a little more because I can tell he's been talking to his kids. See that's exactly what I was gonna say,

is that he talks a lot of times like a guy who is talking to kids. But yeah, that's a bad look for Nance. Oh speaking of Spagnolo, real quick. Our buddy Jared Sandler sent me basically what it would look like if he had a talk show today. His like full thoughts on. Oh my gosh.

Yeah, they're good. So maybe we have him on again soon. But one of the things that he mentioned, because he definitely scans as the type of guy who would care about the Hall of Fame, like normal people. And his point is if you have specialists in the Hall of Fame, you should definitely,

or we should consider the idea that we should have coordinators in the hall of fame. Because if the hall of fame is about like big moments and like defining, Spagnolo is now arguably the best big game play caller in this era. I mean, he's- It makes sense. Incredible what he's. It makes sense. Incredible what he's done with their defense. It does make sense.

And that's part of their whole transition. Like you could never be a head coach, so you should still have a spot. Right, instead of like, your legacy as a head coach sullying you. Right. And that's today's thoughts from Jared Sainler on the NFL. Okay.

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Is this the rounding up Mexican people? Mm-hmm. We have two stories related to this. The first one, local, as a substitute teacher at Northside High School over in Fort Worth. Very heavy Latino area. That really is as... No skinny Latinos over there? Oh, okay.

Yeah. She... I thought she was okay no I loved it thank you man uh let's see I can't tell if it's a male or a female based on this thinking man's joke maybe he just didn't get it I got it immediately it's a female she started posting on social media, the substitute teacher. And I think she even added ice. My brother used to do that. Like when my brother was really wild and on social media, he would just like at the TSA. Kinda give him a piece of his mind.

Or like at AP. At Southwest Airlines. Yeah. See sometimes, yes. Sometimes it works. Yeah, you do it, if you at Southwest Airlines, they'll contact you and, yes. Sometimes it works. Yeah, you do it. If you at Southwest Airlines, they'll contact you, and then they'll make it right behind the scenes.

What are you going to do with ICE? Yeah, I don't know. What she did is she said. And why does ICE have social media? They all do. That's a great point. Isn't that weird? Let's see what they're tweeting.

She said, y'all should come to Fort Worth, Texas, to Northside High School. I have many students who don't even speak English, and they're in the 10th to 11th grade. They have to communicate through their iPhone translator with me. The at USEDGov should totally overhaul our school system in Texas."

So she's just sitting there and tagging the Department of Education. Yeah, so she's just sitting there in a fourth period literature course, she's like, you know what, I'd love to get all these people deported. You know- Ice tweets pictures. Yeah.

Of? What do you, yeah, of? Stings? Let me get this to Rob. You know what's crazy, as TC was telling me yesterday his daughter's in DISD and they are in a dual link a dual language program Deisd yeah No stuff no that one's better. Okay. That was much better. I'm just trying to make you happy uh And they were telling me how it works, And if you enroll in this dual language program,

you don't learn to read in English until like seventh or sixth or seventh grade. So she knows English from life, but her instruction at school is all in Spanish. So they learn how to read in Spanish. And I said, you know, well, can she read in English right now? Because Nora's getting there pretty well. She's like, no, she doesn to read in Spanish and I said, you know, well, can she read in English right now? Because Nora's Getting there pretty well. She's like no, she doesn't read in English. They teach her this first and

It's easier for her to learn this and be immersed in it at school and she's gonna learn English from being around it and Like the line to sign up for this program is around the proverbial building. This is interesting. Now I don't think she's being deported. But this particular teacher has been placed on leave. Before tweeting that? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, this Fox News article, Fox 4 News, has a bunch of sad quotes, frankly, from parents and teachers, basically. This third grade teacher says, our students are afraid to come to class. Yes, on Friday, three of my parents said they were not sending their kids to school anymore because they're afraid.

Look at that. These are pictures that ICE tweets. Well I mean again what do you guys think it was gonna be? Them handcuffing? Yeah no it's not like. I thought they'd be a little more diplomatic than that. No dude and look. I guess like the police departments will show their drug busts. And they're posting yeah they're posting stats. Mm-hmm. You know what this is? This ties into something I was thinking about the other day. I follow Texas Tech's head football coach on Twitter, Joey McGuire. And so this thing showed up on my timeline and it was an athlete, looked like a college-age athlete, an offensive lineman, and it was his workout

drills for the offseason. He's like, always grinded so I can eat, get money. And he was just doing basic agility drills. And it was retweeted by his coach. At which point I realized all these kids in college and probably even some NFL players for their agent, which then feeds into a news story which gets to teams. They're posting it so their coaches see it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And ICE is posting this stuff, so that their coach, which is basically the people, and the big man, are like, oh, look at that. All right. Cuffing somebody. Detaining people, cool. Elsewhere in detaining people, cool, we had a big raid in Chicago.

They posted on Sunday about the launch of Operation Safeguard in Chicago alongside a slew of federal agencies. That's a weak name. That's really bad. There's a lot of, like, Operation Andale. You know what I mean? For real?

No, that's me, I've always wanted that job. Okay. So I feel like there's Operation Hasta La Vista, you know? That's good. There are options here besides Safeguard. So in this particular case, we have the FBI, the DEA, ICE, US Marshals, they're involved in Chicago and you know their borders are tweeting about it. Well in this case in particular, television

personality Dr. Phil McGraw joined the raids and broadcast them live to millions of viewers. How does that get set up? Look at the photo right there, yeah. I guess the guy who did it, Tom Homan, is like a cop, and he's a political commentator, and he's got some sort of show that will follow around law enforcement and tell their stories and Dr. Phil's like what you need to do is get out of the country. Time has come Mexican. How's the Dr. Phil thing going?

No? A guy who would know says not well. I was at his You didn't go I went to Dr. Phil show with TC and Jorts no, I know Lot of cutbacks they had started saying this was the biggest launch since Fox TV in The was that the 80s or 90s? Probably late 80s early 90s. That's what but that's how they were selling it to us when we were there. They're like we've hired we this is gonna be the biggest network launch since Fox TV. Yeah. They hired a yeah they hired a bunch of local people cuz that's in Fort Worth or somewhere. Yeah westway. Hear me. West to

North where the money is and here's another thing too is like I've always heard he's a prick. Like I've always heard for example we've referenced Glenn Beck a few times on the show and like he's got a big persona. Everybody who you talk to it's like yeah he treats people well. He's a good good guy. I have not heard that about Dr. Phil. So you can have two people that you don't really agree with how they do things. And my mind will be changed drastically by what the people who know you say.

So, and also like I get it, this is a real thing, addressing illegal immigration. I certainly don't have an answer for it. But, like cashing in with a livestream to watch people, even if they're here illegal and they need to go back, it is ruining their life. Not here. Are you against the livestream catching the sexual predator?

I think all that's weird, man. There's a trend now where these content creators will go just punch the piss out of a suspected pedophile. I don't think that's good at all. I somehow still believe we should have like trials and stuff and also it's not up to a citizen to do. Like the people who are doing those videos and punching, they seem just as weird to me almost as people who are chatting with a teenager. It's all bad. What about the time Buzz Aldrin punched the moon conspiracy guy?

Did that happen? Didn't you ever hear about that? No, is there a video? You're now joking. That gets sent to me every week. I'm not kidding. Buzz Aldrin punching a moon conspiracy guy? Yeah. Because he's got a moon jacket? Yeah he does have a moon letter jacket.

Punch a Nazi was a thing for a little while right? Yeah Richard Spencer got roofed pretty hard in the down in DC around the time of the protest and stuff and that guy kind of went away. What about punch a Roman? Punch a Roman. A lover of Roman symbols. Roman numerals. Oh, police are investigating a robbery. This is in Mesquite.

This is a real crummy thing to do but kind of funny. You know how when you go to PetSmart, beyond just the would you like to donate $5 to a homeless pet, blah, blah, blah, on the credit card? I feel so bad when I tell them no. I know. I feel so bad, especially. And then they have a doctor right there.

And he used a gun, not even a needle. Oh, OK. At my place, probably a little higher end. They have a sheet and a gun. Yeah they inject a pet right there and then you see the life slowly go out of their eyes. They actually at mine they make me do the two fingers on its eyes. Yeah then they put it in the bag with your stuff. That's crazy. Either this dog stays alive because you donate it or it doesn't mine has an incinerator there. Oh really, huh? And I do feel bad when I hit no Especially after I push myself away from the the counter and I kind of moonwalk back over to the button make a big show

of it no But in addition to that they usually I light a cigar with the twig Yeah, a lot of times they have But in addition to that, they usually... I light a cigar with a twin. Yeah. A lot of times they have, it doesn't even have to be pet related. They got some hustle going on outside. Teen suicide, youth flag football team. Man.

It's a prime spot. It's a great excuse to not go into the gym if they have a guy out there hawking something. I would turn right around. You'll skip the gym for that? I'll just turn right around. Like I will definitely go into different interests in Kroger like if they have somebody selling something at one thing. That's fine but you don't not go to Kroger. You don't. There's no other way into the gym there's just one entrance. Well in this case on Saturday

at this pet spa they actually had a... And I'm looking for an excuse not to go to the gym that's what I'm saying. Sorry. That's fair. Go ahead, they actually had a- And I'm looking for an excuse not to go to the gym. That's what I'm saying here. Sorry. That's fair. Go ahead. They actually had a nonprofit animal rescue table set up. So you've already passed level one of not paying with your credit card for the dogs. Now you're outside and there's a physical person there.

And they had a jar of cash. And that jar of cash was quickly stolen. They got the license plates. Video footage sent to Fox shows a man running out of the store with a jar in his hand. And how much can be in there? It can't be much. No one has a lot of cash anymore.

I believe I've told you guys this before, but in my brief time of trying to run a bar out of my backyard, we had a huge space and we had an actual bar that was built into the deck. Just a couple 2x4s and some sinks. So we would get kegs and we would charge and we would also buy like well well liquor and serve mixed drinks and name for your bar no we never got that far how's that name branding of Arsenio Hall I know Roseanne the house was called the pirate house because we had a big pirate flag painted over the fraternity logo

that was there when we moved in but But, tip jar stealing was a thing. And we'd have seven, 800 bucks in there. And it happened twice, and both times, the guy got ran down. And beat up and stuff? A little. Okay. But what do you expect's gonna happen?

Yeah, you gotta, it's a risk reward. Like it can't be just a smash and grab, you have to be a little more coy about it. And then my final note here, not whore, which Dan is definitely gonna accuse me of just being out of news stories, but I actually want this one out there. You guys like Girl Scout cookies? Like Thin Mint? Are these euphemisms? No, and I think you didn't say that correctly. Probably not.

I do not like Thin Mint, but of course I like the, the one with the coconut and the little chocolate lines on them. Samoas. Oh yeah, those are dope. Yep. That's my favorite. Anybody wants to donate that to us?

A collab the world is needed but didn't know it. Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies and Wendy's Frosties. And I'm only telling you this because I mentioned last week, I am in my ice cream era. Dude, I fucked up some ice cream this weekend. Well, you just went to Wendy's and all of a sudden they're offering. No, there's an actual news story about it here.

Oh. And now I want to try it because. What's the cookie going to be? It's Thin Mint Cookie. That's what I thought I said that. The Thin Mint is their most popular cookie. So it's, it's, wait, you're not buying a Girl Scout cookie. No, you are buying a Frosty that is flavored than mint.

Okay. Okay. And I will be getting one of these. Dude, here's what I did this weekend. Do you? So. I'm sorry, do proceeds go to the Girl Scouts or how are they? I don't care. There's probably some deal.

Well, at least some percentage. Buying the cookies, you sort of feel good that you're supporting them in some way. Got us into a conversation yesterday with my daughter about, she's like, what's a Girl Scouts? And Chris tried to tell her, she's like, is there Boy Scouts? I'm like, yeah, but you can be in that one if you want.

She's like, well, can boys be in Girl Scouts? I'm like, I don't understand the world anymore. Show her that new movie. Penis to vagina. Yeah. This will explain it all no on Saturday night Brevik was over there and he left it about midnight and I had those little Yasso if Yasso wants to do spots they're like frozen yogurt bars they're a hundred calories my freezers full of them well mine was until I ate two of them.

And I was like, damn, you know, you usually go to the grocery store on Sunday. And I don't feel bad about this because I used to order food and pass out and not eat it and I used to spend a lot of money on alcohol. But at 1230 on Saturday night, when my wife was out at a party, when I knew she wasn't going to be home until two or maybe stay the night. You're at Kroger. Damn, she's living. I wasn't driving, brother. I just laid in bed and had a Haagen-Dazs cheesecake

ice cream from 7-Eleven delivered to my front door for $12. What have you become? Was it better when he had a bottle of Jack Daniels? Do you understand the things I can do now and be like, well, it ain't that bad. Right. See, that's the thing.

You're door dashing a pint of ice cream. I'd had a couple of little gummies, real THC gummies, courtesy of Early Bird CBD. And I thought, I don't need to get behind the wheel. It's $12. I would have spent 50 on a pizza. Someone else get behind the wheel to go get their ice cream. No, you've saved money.

It's better for you I woke up and was at the gym immediately there you go no problem right I also paid to have ice cream delivered and that's what you have to do you have because I've seen your Taco Bell the next morning that you didn't eat right so that could be a $50 order a $30 order whatever sure yes so you spent $12, you've just saved 20. Calories lower. Calories are lower. And you have a fun story.

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When you think of Texas, you think of Lone Star. It's right in the name. 140 years of brewing in Texas. Dan has got his sweet hat. That is a sweet hat. Which you can get at a discounted rate if you head to their website. That's where you'd give the website?

Oh, that's where me? LoneStarbeer.com. One of you two morons. LoneStarbeer.com, I couldn't see it. The code is dumbzone21. How could you not see it? And how dumb do you have to be? Get back to the read.

Hey, the merch is great. LoneStarBeer.com. It's about time for me to get another shirt. Those are quality shirts. Yeah, I'm a LoneStar light guy. That's the blue can. So if you like to separate yourselves between red and blue, like we do,

and they're going to be fired up to be a part of our, I don't know if they're fired up, but I'm fired up that they're a part of our Super Bowl party too. Oh yeah. The fridge is stock full of Lone Star beer. It goes fast. And Lone Star Light.

Do your little birthdays. All right. Actually I have a couple little birthdays from people that listen to their little show. I have deer truffle butter tycoon. Didn't we do this one? Oh yeah. My bad. Well it's very distinctive. That one was for Wire Will. That was on Friday we did it. Dear Uncle Hotmail, today is my Saquon Barkley Times Kyler Murray birthday. I'm honored to share the birthday with First Ballot DZ Hall of Famer Wire Will, who was gracious enough to invite two guys from some restaurant

whom he had never met over to his house to enjoy your show on Friday. Can't wait for the new show at the next new house next year. Hope you enjoyed the food we brought from Winewood. Winewood is exceptional. P.S. if Blake's bid is going to be high school mascots he actually needs to get some right. Damn. Not just say I don't know. That's not getting it wrong.

At least it doesn't bother him. Also your food sucks. And then he says that being said more Blake. Oh. The bacon wrap quail is quite good. That's from Brian Wagner. Those tuna nachos. Wags.

I wonder if anybody calls them wags. Well, we do. Dan and Jake, I'm writing because Sunday is my boyfriend Chase's 41st birthday. Chase, longtime listener of your radio show, turned to podcast, never misses an episode. He becomes irritable when his sacred listening time is interrupted. He thinks of you as friends.

Well, that's because we are. And from what I understand, he has met y'all and written in many times. His birthday usually comes and goes without recognition, but I know it would mean the world to him if you gave him a birthday shout-out on your show thank you both for providing him with comfort as he navigated the most challenging and dark time of his life and continues to do so as life gets better and better from Chase's girlfriend Carly. Chase Bailey is his name. That's a great man. Is it?

Yes. It is. What was the bad stuff? Yeah, tell me about the challenging and dark times. You know I love that. No. I wanna hear about people's worst times. Because then it makes me feel better about my life.

No, I'm just gonna say he's a great man that I appreciate. Like the fact that he has a girlfriend writing in for him, that sounds like he's going pretty good right now. He's probably getting a little tonight. I'm not. It's his birthday. Yeah, he should, it's his birthday. Trump's back. Aren't we all supposed to get...

What does that have to do with anything? Well, ladies are know their roles and stuff like that right? And she's still the girlfriend so she still has to try. It's true. Greetings Colossus of Clit. Alright. I write you today from the electronic mail platform that is steadily gaining in popularity to wish a belated happy Barry Switzer Kemp Spin birthday to my pal Josh Remington. He says the Barry Switzer Kemp Spin thing is if you sort by name on the website it's number 32. Nice.

Okay. So a new way to label your birthday is to go to Kemp spin calm He is known amongst his friends as rim job or Jeb Either one His leaders are Phil Mickelson's calves. Yeah quite big female POV Blake try it Lauren Sanchez's cleavage and Jake's inability to say the word wolves. I think it's still a thing. Know what I mean? Josh requests more Sarah Heppela,

Dear Julie, and Blake's book review segments as he works towards getting more in touch with his feminine side. This is from Andrew Chuckles Collier, day one, DF number 194. Collie. Else here on Monday, May 20th, excuse me, Monday, January 27th. On this day in 1967, astronauts Virgil Grissom, Gus Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee died in a flash fire during a test aboard their Apollo spacecraft. Wow. All right, I'll take, hold on, Jake wrote me a note. Says, oh, they're only, it was only astronauts. Ah. He said. I feel like, so, there's a world

where he was about to say they were only space guys or space fans. On this day in 1984 Wayne Gretzky sets an NHL record for consecutive games scoring his streak ends at 51 games. Who is this? The great one? Gretzky. I think I told you as a little kid this was a playground argument as to I'm doing my sports talk show on the playground and there's some things we're dealing with. I mean this was a show that would go there. We would we would do sports talk but also if you got a thing on a pump in a stomach, because you had serviced a lot of, like, we'll deal with that.

Yeah. Quite a range. Be irreverent a little bit. Yeah. But we're going to go back to the base, which had to do with Wayne Gretzky, and is a 51-game point streak. You don't, not a goal streak, just points. Because you could get an assist by just passing it to someone who passes it to someone else, and then they score a goal streak, just points. Because you could get an assist by just passing it

to someone who passes it to someone else, and then they score a goal. And now. Yeah, they call that one a hockey assist. So. Thank you, boy. The point is, big controversy as to where does this rank among Joe DiMaggio.

Should it even be in the same breath? To which, in a town without an NHL team, we all pretty much agreed, absolutely not. Yeah, well, you just- Do you know how hard baseball is? You want a cookie for showing up? Anyway. What about the phone?

Now that you know a little more about hockey, it's pretty impressive. 51 games. He had 61 goals and 92 assists. He had 153 points in 51 games. That seems really good. It's insane. It's insane because he had to play in all those games. And I know hockey doesn't take games off, but it's insane. And this is the day in 1984 that Michael Jackson suffered serious burns to his scalp when pyrotechnics set his hair on fire During the filming of a Pepsi TV commercial at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles damn

Pyrotechnics man. I wonder if Rob remembers this story when I was growing up The big deal around here was that bands would go play the Tarrant County Convention Center instead of playing in Dallas because Tarrant County, I don't even know if this is true, Tarrant County had more lax rules on pyrotechnics. Oh really? Yeah like Metallica, obviously they, you know, speaking of getting burned, but metal bands would play Tarrant County because they loved fire. And on this day in 1997 actor Charlie Sheen got divorced from model Donna Peele. They were married for four months. I love those bits. Four-month wedding or marriage? Yeah. Kind of feel like what's the point? Let's see, in today's birthdays, our old friend, former ticket account

executive Holly Krebs, remember Holly? Yeah. It's her birthday. Says he or she's 29. Former cowboy, it says Kemp's been next to his name and I don't remember it. 34-year-old Dustin Vaughn. I mean it's somewhat he didn't do anything wrong but he was a backup quarterback and he had a hilarious video from his college time and it was like I think he was trying to get invited to the combine and this is like what eight nine years ago I don't know but it was it was before you couldn't do this, and now I think we're back to this, but his highlight video had ridiculous stuff,

where he's like throwing a football over a mountain, and it also had him like running and jumping, like to dunk, and in the midair, like he turned into a black guy, and like dunked. Like he was making fun of the fact that he's not athletic at all. It wasn't like he wore blackface. All right.

But he had a funny video. Is he the one that threw under the boat? Probably. Remember the boat football video? That feels more recent now that you say that. Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley did that. They were roommates. A lot of people don't know that.

Did what, threw a football into a moving boat? Yeah. Dustin Vaughn was a fun guy. Cade York 24. Kicker. Kicker drafted by the Browns from Prosper. Did you know that? Did not. You should have.

High school football guy, right? I should have. Oh. This Dustin Vaughn video is hilarious. I told you. What do you want? We had him on at camp. It's on YouTube. Dustin Vaughn West Texas A&M Lone Star Conference quarterback. Yeah. He leaned into the bed. He's failing to push a sled. Doing half push-ups. Here another Kemp spin Chris Collins were 66 hmm yeah I like the younger ones likes young ladies some reason decided to tell that to a reporter when they were doing a profile on this young up-and-coming wide

receiver Fred Taylor 49 dude he was a video game monster. He really was. All right, here's the- Here's Dustin Vaughn. Dustin Vaughn video. You can tell he's got a Christmas sweater on. You can tell he's doing bits. He knows he's not jumping jacks. He's in a trash apartment complex, slow-mo push-ups.

Just crappy push-ups. Oh, they're on his knees. push-ups just crappy put oh Okay Boy if I knew about this I definitely would have talked to him at training camp. I think you think we did Oh really? I think so But he's all out of breath. Yeah Okay, so this is definitely just doing bit. He's got a coffee and an ice cream sandwich Okay, so this is definitely just doing a bit. He's got a coffee and an ice cream sandwich. Okay, it's just him being goofy. I feel like the last part, you can go forth,

but if it jumps out at you, I want you to see it, because I'm pretty sure he morphs himself. Matt Stover is 57. Punter? Kicker. Kicker. Nick Mason is 81. he is from pink floyd he changed it mid-air into a black guy that's funny jump a terrible edit james cromwell is 85. Is that politics? Succession.

You're thinking James Carville. Yeah, and like Cromwell from history. But James Cromwell was the old. The brother. Yeah. That guy was great. I loved him and Greg together. Keith Olbermann, 66.

God, I can't stand him. Never really was a big fan. Was a huge DP guy. But, uh, Overman always gave me the uppity vibe. Doesn't drive. It's interesting. Norm MacDonald never drove. Oh, I wish I had known that. That feels pretentious. Bridget Fonda, 61. Tracy Lawrence, 57.

Patton Oswalt, 56. Spence. Guillermo Rodriguez, 54. Who's Spence? King of Queens. Patton Oswalt was in King of Queens, huh? Checks out, doesn't it? He had like a really weird late career thing like cuz his wife was writing that book about the

Golden State killer and then she died so he just Finished it. That's a that's a cool twist. I read it to a Hollywood story. Did you read it? I did not I watched the documentary It's good. It's funny Yep Born in the stay now dead. Mozart. Da. Painter.

Great painter. Century guesses? Born, yeah, gimme, within 10 years, any year he lived. Within 10 years, any year Mozart lived. You want to go first or me? 1756 to 1791. Yeah, and I think we've done this before too, because piano was, I don't think if you guess 1600s, you can get piano in there. With respect to piano. They didn't invent the piano?

I think people were rocking piano widely like early 1700s. So Beethoven is he like was he in the same era? Were all these guys in the same era? Brahms, Beethoven, Mozart is there like was that the classic rock era type thing you know? You got Pink Floyd, the Rolling Stone like they're all in the same decade or so. So they're on the same station. Late 1700s, yes. Late 1700s?

Yeah, and then people that were really into them got like very upset when in 1840 they heard it on the oldies station. Right, like I'm not already. I'm old then I guess. Also born on the stay now dead Art Rooney and Jerry buss hmm two owners royalty governor one's a governor dead on the stay still dead this is one I think it's real. Thomas Crapper invented the toilet, died on this day in 1910.

That means the toilet's... Look, you weren't gonna invent it. No. Like, is there any way you even know? Give me some thoughts on how a toilet works. Couldn't even. Give me some thoughts on how there's a guy on the 100th floor in a New York City apartment and he can flush that toilet and then where's that go?

Yeah, I don't know where it goes now, to be honest with you. Like just from your house? Yeah. Does it go out into Lake Grapevine? Maybe. Does it just go back into Lake Grapevine? Maybe. Does it just go back into your shower? Doesn't bother me.

Died on this day, still dead, Andre the Giant. Damn. I never watched that documentary. Have you? I have, yeah. Heard a lot about it. Probably not near as, it's wild, but it's not like scandalous,

like the Vince McMahon story. You said wild, kind of like Oprah. I did. 2010 Howard Zinn. The people's history. Look into Howard Zinn. Did you see like there was a Charles Barkley clip going around where he's talking about class. I saw it and then I heard Brunig play it on his podcast. Yeah it was on it was on TNT that night. Yeah.

He's like, you know, the best thing these people do is keep us fighting with each other. But it feels, it felt like he just read Howard Zinn. I bet he has. And Ingvar Kamprad died on this day in 2018. Who? Ingvar Kamprad, founder of IKEA. Oh okay. Yeah sure. The home of the first time home like you go buy everything first time home. How about my fifth home? Yeah

also a big player in the gonna need to get some furniture pretty quick here because she decided she's had enough. Yeah, divorce dad. Big time. Big time. Although you know what else divorce dad? I already have my whole cart so it's all in there so the day that it happens I just simply hit order and it'll... Divorce dad is at least my divorce dad. I garbage picked or heated like the neighbor had like a TV you know stand so I'll have magazines in the side or something and it's kind of rusty but he took it and put it in his apartment and was there for like five years why not his apartment until he got a house and a wife and a new kid that he really loved. Also today's show just like they said at the beginning, they, we said at the

beginning, was brought to you by Fairleese. What do you think of Fairleese? And Frankel. Brought to you by Frankel too. That's why I wore the hat earlier. But Frankl is one of our main sponsors. Personal injury attorneys, of course, 214-817, all threes. Chosen by the people, feared by the insurance company. And then Fair Lease. Fairlease.org. Also one of our huge sponsors.

Just want to give a little extra love to them. Tell them we sent you. Why? What are they they gonna do? Be happy about it. All right, well anyway guys. That's when you would have played the thing. I gave you like 10 different seconds

where you could have played the thing. We've been going for three and a half hours. Can we get out of here? What's the thing? God damn it. What thing would I have played though? He just wants to hear his daughter I guess. Adios, mofo.

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