The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 1-28-25: We learn Brian Schottenheimer is a yes-man and Brandon Aubrey packing for the Pro Bowl PREVIEW

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Hear the entire episode by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneAfter the (un)exciting introductory press conference for new Dallas Cowboys head coach, Brian Schottenheimer, we pick out a few things that stuck out to us including the half hour walk off Jerry and Stephen Jones held. Michael Irvin ways in on the hire in a very insightful way and is able to tie it into Sears. Plus, we're joined by Brandon Aubrey in our weekly visit to see if he can help us get aggregated again ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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It's not him like in a hallway at his house where the lighting's weird and the sound is bad. He's sitting in an office, and this video kind of has production. Like there's a clip at the beginning they clearly use YouTube's do tool and did a one-minute clip. It's well done. There's graphics all sorts of stuff and Mike just talks for 20 minutes this is right after the Schottenheimer hired hire was announced but first off he had to let you know why he's been a little under the radar out of the scene for a couple days.

And I went to the restaurant to go do some business. I said, okay, let me just try to get snapped back because I was just, I was feeling so bad, so bad Thursday night. I couldn't move. You know, you, you, I, when you're sweating in the bed and your bed is sweating and you're cold is I don't know what your freezing that kind of sick. So he was sick. You know, you're sweating in the bed and your bed is sweating and you're cold. I don't know what your freezing that kind of sick. So he was sick.

We call that a fever. A fever. Sometimes of the flu. So he was like, I got to get out and try to do somebody couldn't do anything Thursday night. It got bad. I'm going to pray like hell. I'm going to deal with Keyshawn and all them dudes. He does a show with Keyshawn and I guess, Joy Taylor? I'm going to pray like hell. I'm going to deal with Keyshawn and all them dudes all next week and go out here and deal

with these people out here and everything. Everybody that's been tapping in trying to get me on a conversation or a quote on it, man, I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this.

I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this.

I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. I've been talking to you about this. out here and everything and everybody has been tapping in trying to get me on a conversation or a quote on it man I've been tapped out because I've been heard knocked out I mean literally sick with the flu and then hit with this doo doo sick with the flu and then hit with doo doo yeah Hit with this doo doo. Sick with the flu, and then hit with doo doo. Yeah. Yeah, man. He's been through war. He's just got a far away look.

So that's before his cowboy opinion? This is the intro. He has to let you know, OK. This is the intro. Man, hit with this doo doo. Sick with with the flu and then hit with do do. I just came to him. Okay. So, uh, now he's warmed up and, uh, he's really, really hot.

Two NFC East teams in the NFC championship game being played tomorrow. in the NFC championship game being played tomorrow, our eyes are on them. The Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington Commanders, our enemies on all fronts. And they're holding a position that we haven't held in 30 fucking years. The longest drought by any NLC East team, any NLC team, period.

I've heard him curse in real life. I don't know if I've heard him lean in like that in a commentary. Yeah, that was shocking. So yesterday, I referenced during the press conference, when Jerry referenced his master's thesis, uh... so yesterday i i reference to the press conference uh... when jerry references masters thesis i compared the cowboys to you know slow titanic like company like blockbuster or these old relics that was uh... i had not actually listen to this whole

urban commentary at the time but he was thinking the same thing and actually think this is pretty insightful, dude. I Don't want us to become and I'm saying this because it's real You can mess around like Sears and miss out When we come in Amazon That's what Sears did. Sears robot all they had to do was put this shit in the computer Sears did. Sears robot, all they had to do was put that shit in the computer.

That's it. He's not wrong. No quick Analyzation of a good case study here. What's your executive summary? Why don't they just put that Shit in a computer? No, they want to hand to them damn books and passing it out old fashioned things And they went out. We are in a new age, seeers. New time. Everybody's working on these damn computers. I gotta learn it. You should have learned it. Blockbuster did the same damn thing. These were empires that we thought would not fall and they failed because they got stuck in yesterday and would step into tomorrow. because they got stuck in yesterday and would step into tomorrow. Social media is tomorrow. Dion is running social media too. These generations, this next generation that has never felt the glory of that championship story, we could at least

snag them up on social media because that's part of the new thing. Get with it or get gone. And this makes me think where they can get them gone. Come on, man. Gotta say, I don't know if I agree that like Dion would be, why didn't they do that? He probably wouldn't be worse. And I see where Michael Irvin's coming from, that he's like,

Hey, you got a thing here, a product that people still, for whatever reason, care about. You got a lot of capital behind it. Why don't you try to do something to prolong that? You know? Why don't you try to make the Cowboys cool again? That's not Brian Schottenheimer. At all. No. No, it's comfortable though.

It's very comfortable. We're in a new age, Sears. Get that shit on the computer! Dion's on a computer, look at it! Okay, now this last one here, couple minutes long. But this is the part that kind of went viral, and I think this is... The doo-doo thing didn't go viral? But this is the part that kind of went viral and I think this is... The doo-doo thing didn't go viral? Well, it did among us. So to the degree that Jameson made a song, which we'll hear later.

But this one is him just talking about what it's like in a locker room and to be part of a team. I thought this was great. Brian Scheinheimer, I don't know the man, but I do know me and I know man I Know when you are within an organization and you get promoted within an organization And I know that the Dallas Cowboys right now. They don't have curfew. So let me give you that They don't have curfew. They don't have discipline. We will fourth in penalties this year you. They don't have discipline. We will fourth in penalties this year. So how do you fix that? You're going to be more disciplined or be more of a disciplinarian. How do you do that when you're

coming from inside? Because when you start saying, hey, you jump off sides now we're going to find you. You jump off sides, we're going to penalize you. Jump off sides, you're going to have to go do some running. And everybody else, oh man, you're going to have to go do some running and everybody else said oh man you're gonna I thought you were a cycling asshole after we got you the job that's what you're gonna do if you say okay we haven't been meeting at night we leave Saturday afternoon at 130 people for 3 p.m sunday game I'll see you at the game on 3 p.m sunday do y'all understand everybody else they show up at a hotel Saturday night at 6 p.m. it's what we did we have dinner till about 7.30 then we're gonna go have meetings and watch film till about 9 we'll give us a snack I don't know that one really got me till nine. We'll give us a snack!

About nine thirty we're gonna go in the room. Play cards, hang out for a minute. The whole damn hour talking, game plan, and what we must do. It's a promise made, one man to another. I will get my damn job done today. That's how you win championships. And you make the promise over and over to each other. You make it when you over to each other you

make it when you're with each other and if you're not creating these times together when are the fuck you gonna make these promises you talk all offseason about money you don't talk about winning and then when it's time to be talking football you got everybody home sitting at home now Brian's going to come in what is he going to say we're gonna start showing up at the hotel when I've curfew this is they're gonna say it again. Oh Man, what you doing dog? Oh Will change like this on us. This are you gonna change? Oh, we got you the job. That's what they're gonna say Now you're risking losing the whole locker room

Dramatic but also that makes a lot of sense to me. It's like any job. I guess where he just Come on, dude. You're the guy from the cube over now. I'm supposed to I'm supposed to let you just completely change the way we do things come on Brian Brian a hotel before a home game Brian Come on. Stop it Come on. Stop it. Come on. You're Brian. No, he sounds really really wise, you know? Yeah, it sounds like a former player who knows what those teams that he was on felt like, and are very talented also. It's really weird that Michael Irvin, well known for he started the White House and getting caught with hookers and cocaine.

But he is the guy, it's kind of the same as Dez in the sense of he seemed the wildest off, you know, he had a monkey and he's got the North Park Mall story and this and that but Like in the room and in practice and as far as preparation for football Nobody matched those guys and they brought the elevation, you know, they elevated everyone else as well and they actually can comment on What players are thinking about? actually can comment on what players are thinking about Brian Schottenheimer walking through the door. Not what players are publicly saying because your quarterback is never gonna publicly say anything but I

truly believe that. I truly believe what he's saying and that yes you just brought in McCarthy's guy you just slid him over and there was nobody I don't know it wasn't it wasn't like that was screaming out to happen like I think if the rut if the team had if they had moved on from McCarthy and moved Dan Quinn in there, everybody would have kind of nodded. Yeah, that's, I see that. Sure. That's a guy.

That's a guy who's got opinions, he's got fire, he's going to... Got the room. Yeah, he can command the room. Now Brian Schottenheimer might be a smart guy, it might be well organized, it might be well organized, might be well liked, it just doesn't, you know, everybody can see it for what it is. He was hired because his dad knew Jerry and Jerry's real comfortable with him. He's going to bite his lip when things are happening or not happening. And when something goes down, you know, when Pac-Man Jones got in a fight and there was

some question over to whether, would you suspend him for this week or, you know, is he going to be fined? What's going to happen with Pac-Man Jones? They literally asked Wade Phillips at a press conference about that and he said, well, we're going to talk to Jerry. Jerry will make that decision. They know. So both Jerry and Steven were asked about Irvin's comments? Same thing with, sorry, when Dave Campo is the head coach. I can't remember, I mean Emmett Smith, the all-time leading rusher, was on the team and who was it? Darren Hambrick? Troy. Troy Hamb was on the team and who was it Darren Hamburg Troy Troy

Troy Hamburg was the running back who was on with us saying that he's gonna go talk to mr. Jones about getting more touches Yeah, I Remember he's going to go over the head coach's head go talk to the owner about getting more because he saw He saw how the room worked. He saw how everything was I thought Dave Campbell was a great guy who was well organized and a good coach. But that's just not the command that Dave Campo respected. Sorry. No, no, you're good. I mean, Jerry was asked about Irvin's comments and I'll put it here. I've had comments that make that look like child's play that would bother me.

Okay, that goes with the territory. It just goes with the territory, whether it's a former player. I think the world of Michael Irvin, everybody knows that. So that's good. Michael and I both enjoy together having a lot of heavy criticism. Michael and I both enjoy together having a lot of heavy criticism. Jerry, when you see this type of, when you, when you see the staff together, so he's not, he's not adverse from it either. So that goes with it, man.

I just played that cause I think it's funny when Jerry kind of slightly tips his mafia hand. He's like, Oh really? Michael Irvin's got something to say. Huh? I guess he's, he's probably never really Michael Irvin's got something to say huh I guess he's he's probably never done anything objectionable I love him though never had anybody support him yeah interesting and then Steven asked about it this is funny because he did this a couple times he, look, the Eagles have 22 of 22 starters from opening day playing in the Super Bowl. But you just, you can't just- No, injury button. You can't count.

Yeah. I don't, I don't think our players- So he's asked about, yeah, Irvin and, hey, the players are not going to respect Shotty. I don't, I don't think our players look at it that way. I think we've got winners in the locker room and it starts right there at the top with number four. And he knows things have to change. I mean, we've. I think we've got winners in the locker room and it starts right there at the top with number four. And he knows things have to change. I mean, we gotta be better.

I mean, what we've done isn't good enough. And I think he's got that way about him, that people are gonna trust him. They're gonna trust his energy. They're gonna trust his insight. And they're gonna understand that, hey, what we have done in the past hadn't been good enough. And let's don't blame it on injuries. And they're gonna understand that hey what we have done in the past hadn't been good enough and Just don't blame it on injuries. Let's don't blame it on bad luck in the playoffs

Let's don't go back and look too much that you know 12 and 5 for so many years Yeah, I just want to Continually remind he's doing what he's saying. I know you're not gonna do this. He did a couple different times Yeah, so different time. is pointing out they have ended injuries They've had bad luck in the playoffs and they were 12 and 5 3 years in a row But yeah, I mean, I guess if you say better it should be better and then I just put together a little montage but back on the Eagles to if it's the you know, the Eagles had 22 starters and What about that year that they lost their left tackle to start

the season and then they had a quarterback playing at an MVP level and then lost him like in week 12 or something. And then they went to the Super Bowl. What happened there? That happens. That happens with teams. You just cannot point to injury. And if you're going to point to injury, then I'm going to point to the front office and say, what about the team depth? That's a big deal. What about signing a real competent backup

that you think could actually even possibly compete? Go ahead. Don't want to threaten Dak. No, I'll close with this because, like I said, it just felt like an autobiographical vomit from Jerry all day of just he's crying because he's thinking about his life and he's thinking about his daddy and he's thinking about Brian's daddy. The clips I'm about to play for you all happened within about 15 minutes in the walk-off and I'm gonna just play a game here

called uh do you guys remember Jerry bought the Cowboys? I've taken more within about 15 minutes in the walk-off. And I'm gonna just play a game here called, do you guys remember Jerry bought the Cowboys? I've taken more serious, tangible risks in the last five years than I've ever taken in my life, including the buying of the Dallas Cowboys. So risk taking is a part of it. I went to school on negative comments from the fans. Go back and look at when we first got involved with the Cowboys.

And just like the game itself, there's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory hopes. I think it was an emotional thing to buy the Cowboys. It certainly wasn't prudent financially one quick story I was evaluating by need Cowboys. We'd been there three weeks Quick story that is so that's 35 years ago I know talks about issues so problems what I'm doing now if you had a bad year trick and went one of 15 and

with what I'm doing now? If you had a bad year Troy Aikman won one in 15 and then won three Super Bowls and went to the Hall of Fame. Ergo! Right so every oh you don't like this move people didn't like it when I bought the Cowboys.