The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 1-9-25: A Dallas snow day, LA fires, and Jon Machota
Episode Date: January 9, 2025Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneWe're snowed in so we're broadcasting from different locations (well... one of us is). We talk snow..., we talk fire, we talk Mavs, and we talk Mike McCarthy with The Athletic's, Jon Machota (00:00) - Open: We're snowed in (23:21) - Mavs: Will this be the lost season? (41:59) - The Thursday Viewer Mail Follow Up Extravaganza Um Inclemente Fossil Thing (57:32) - Jon Machota: McCarthy's future and his Detroit Lions (01:36:15) - News: LA fires and Dallas snow (01:50:45) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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This is Frankie McDonald on my own TV station live from Indianapolis, SC.
Major snowstorm is headed towards Dallas, Texas on Thursday, January 9th,
2025. It's gonna bring up to 6 to 12 inches of snow or more.
That's gonna bring really cold temperatures after a snowstorm in Dallas, Texas. It's gonna bring really dangerous
driving conditions and really treacherous
driving conditions.
People in Dallas, Texas, be prepared.
I'm not prepared.
Would Pepsi stop cutting the check?
What does that mean?
Would Pepsi stop cutting the check?
What does that mean?
I feel like our friends at PepsiCo were getting a mention in all the Frankie Max updates once upon a time.
Oh, really?
Well, yeah.
I'm not saying I actually think they were sponsoring it.
It's just weird he randomly stopped.
Oh, get your Pepsi.
Yeah, okay.
I'm not following things.
Like I said, I'm not prepared.
It's okay.
This whole winter thing has me thrown off my great game.
I'm Dan McDowell.
I'm Jake Kemp.
I'm Blake Jones.
Together we are the Dumb Zone today, broadcasting live. We are streaming live.
From our respective locations.
Blake is in Wiley.
Dan and Jake are high atop my garage.
We are in Tarrant County.
Where's Wiley?
Is that Dallas County?
Collin County.
Damn.
Look at all the counties we're in.
Yeah.
Now, Jake had the commitment to the show to come over to the
house, whereas Blake is like,
oh, no, I think I'll just... I offered to drive over
there at the crack-ass of dawn. Feels good to be
on this side of the table.
What?
Nobody says
crack-ass of dawn, either. I wanted to throw an unnecessary curse word to show how... It's ass--ass of dawn either.
I wanted to throw in an unnecessary curse word to show how...
It's ass crack of dawn, right?
Is it?
I've heard crack of dawn.
That's your grandpa.
I'll bet he's said that a few times.
No, he's not a cursor.
Really?
Yeah.
There's two things the man doesn't condone.
It's swear words and dude's kissing.
There's two things the man doesn't condone.
It's swear words and dudes kissing.
Yeah, I got really no search results for crack ass of Don.
Not yet.
What about Dan's hat?
I didn't do this on purpose.
The North Carolina hat, UNC, Unc. Yeah, no, he's the show Unk.
Hey, Unk, what you got for me today?
Who was doing that earlier?
Oh, not Joe Davis, the other guy.
Adam Amin.
Adam Amin.
Anyway, it's big snow time for Dallas, the DFW area.
You'd rather have this than big fire.
That's a great point.
Although I usually prefer heat.
Right, but on their extremes.
To cold.
Yeah.
Yeah, once the heat catches on fire, I think that's the point at which the heat loses the edge over the cold.
Yeah, I mean, we're going to talk about it for sure in the news.
We can talk about it here.
We have obviously like a lot of people.
We've got friends out there.
Jorts is there of Quaker City Nighthawks and Son of Stan.
I have no idea what that sound is.
And, yeah, he's like in Burbank, and there are three.
If you look at the map, there are three fires, like, right around him.
He may join us tomorrow.
Well, I just hope he's okay.
Yeah.
I want to state that for the record in case somebody was like, man, I wonder if Dan hopes that he's dead.
I don't.
No, but it's dire enough.
I hope that he's not even burned.
That's a very big of you.
It's dire enough where I think we are in check on your friend's territory.
Because
he's like holing up.
Yesterday, talking to our buddy
Tom, he was like, yeah, his
daughter lives in
LA and had to
evacuate, heading to Anaheim.
That was yesterday morning.
So...
Not good.
Yeah.
What's the deal?
Why don't they just get the water out of the ocean?
They'd live right next to the ocean.
Dude, I haven't listened to the exact quotes, but you know Trump is cooking something like that.
Just get a long hose and kind of suck it to siphon it.
Some guy on Newsmax or one of them, politician,
obviously Republican politician,
and I didn't even watch it,
so they may have been doing him dirty,
but honestly, let's be honest,
also, I could believe it. His solution
was like, well, if these trees are catching on fire,
just cut down the trees.
I don't understand.
There you go.
It's like an obvious math problem to me.
These are catching on fire.
Subtract them.
What if we built the house, made it out of fire?
Interesting.
Yeah.
Or what if you made it out of water?
What if you made it out of whatever they make cribs out of now that aren't fireproof or that are fireproof?
Oh, I have no idea.
Mine looks pretty flammable.
Oh, does it really?
It's wood.
Oh. Or just stone.
Stone?
Can we make everything out of stone?
That could never catch on fire.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, so I was home this morning, and this is a bad look for me.
Our house is still in the state of there's a lot to do.
It's just not on the inside.
So we're past the point where people show up and come through the house every day,
but the backyard, the driveway doesn't exist.
The backyard is upended.
It's hills and mounds and stuff everywhere.
And part of that is like they were replacing the area around the pool
because it was super jacked up.
So guys will just show up over there.
They did it yesterday and they kind of just stand out there and talk to each other and look at it.
At what?
Just this ground is messed up.
Probably going to have to take care of that at some point.
And that happened yesterday and then today um as part of the year of jake um it's not just that i want to
exercise regularly like i'm back to that i'm specifically focusing dan and blake on mobility
okay i can't really sit indian style without tremendous amounts of pain i can't either and
i can't even really do a proper
leg cross sit
without that kind of hurting, which means I have to slide
into the gay sit.
I can't do
ankle on knee.
Where does it hurt?
My hips are extremely tight.
They always have been.
And I do stretch my hips, but I have to
do, I think, way more than the average person to have
semi loose hips and I have to work on them. It's my goal this year. So I was, uh, I was in like our
new living room area and I was on the ground and I was doing my hip exercise. Like I was,
it looked like yoga and I look up from, you know, downward dog or whatever,
and there's just three burly men in Carhartts in my backyard in the snow, dude.
It's 15 degrees outside.
Looking at you try to increase your mobility.
Yeah, and I'm in there, like, doing knee touches and, like, holding my hand over,
looking through this window out into the pristine snow.
Have they ever?
God, that's tough.
You might as well just have a guy behind me while I'm bent over railing me.
Because that's about how bad it looked.
It was a tough, tough look.
What did you do to prepare for this?
Me?
I made a timely ass soup.
Yesterday?
Yeah.
That's going to last us for a couple days.
He's got a lot of it right here. That was a lot of the concern for this family who eats out every night. Yeah. That's going to last us for a couple days. Got a lot of it right here.
That was a lot of the concern for this family who eats out every night.
Yeah.
And I mean eats out every night, if you know what I mean.
Hell yeah.
Why do you think she's so happy?
Why do you think she won't leave me?
Has that ever happened?
What?
Like, has there ever been a relationship?
Let's say a marriage to really make it high stakes,
where the woman just hates it?
She's like, he's a loser.
He's got this problem and that problem,
but God, he eats pussy good.
I mean, people do marry and get together.
Well, for sexual chemistry.
No doubt.
I'm not blaming that.
I'm narrowing it down to a very specific act.
Because I know dudes would be like, she does that thing.
The oral skills are pristine that you can overlook a lot.
And I think that could go a long way.
I don't think it's common, but I think it does happen.
What I'm asking is does it ever happen?
But those skills do diminish. Well, they don't necessarily diminish, but they just don't think it's common, but I think it does happen. What I'm asking is, does it ever happen? But those skills do diminish.
Well, they don't necessarily diminish,
but they just don't get used a lot.
Sure.
I mean, sometimes.
They don't want to show off.
Right.
They've put in the work.
But still,
I'm saying the opposite of that.
Is there a guy that does that so well?
He's just so good at that.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
It's such a mystery down there, man. Yes, it has to be. It's just so good at that. I don't know. I don't think so. It's such a mystery down there, man.
It has to be.
It's just such a, yeah, I don't know.
If we do it for the same reason, there are women out there that reflect men in that category.
So, yeah.
If it happens to us, it happens to them.
What I'm saying is I don't think there are any guys.
There may be some who think they are.
I don't think there are any guys who are so good at that.
Like, for example, there's an entire genre of porn.
Remember Heather I. Deep Throat?
I saw her image on Twitter the other day as a meme.
This woman, all she did was that, and it was incredible.
There are no sites for a guy who just eats women out.
Maybe there are, and you just don't know.
Well, I'm sure there are.
I just don't think it's popular.
It's not...
Should that be in sex ed class?
How to do it? Yeah.
Like, that would have been great for sex ed.
Because that's a thing.
There's no road map at all.
Probably nowadays, I guess
porn is way more accessible than when I was a little kid.
Instruction manuals?
At least you have some idea of what's up.
Got Sam Kinison.
I had Sam Kinison.
That was my whole road map.
You know what that means, Blake?
The letters?
Yeah, he told you how to do it.
Okay.
That's carried on? I think because of the show. Through you? Yeah, I didn you how to do it. Okay. That's carried on?
I think because of the show.
Through you?
Yeah, I didn't know about it until you.
Oh, all right.
Boy, and I couldn't wait to get home and try it out.
That's all I really did to prepare.
I drove over here, which is fun as hell.
What do you mean?
Slippery?
Yeah, I mean, I'm on back roads.
I know that's actually worse than freeways, but I take the back roads.
I didn't see hardly, I might have seen two cars.
Now, they were on a two-lane road passing me pretty tight.
Yeah, being on, in my neighborhood with just the snow on the ground,
it's not bad if nobody's driven on it yet.
Yeah, it was fine. It was fun.
I spun out a couple times.
For fun.
So, I met Tom Thumb yesterday.
I'm pissed.
Yeah.
This guy, this giving power wall.
And I'm like, who are all these idiots who didn't look ahead and plan ahead a little bit?
And so I'm in this big long line with my frozen pizza for my daughter and my beer for my wife. And I can't remember what I got.
I got something for myself.
I originally meant for myself.
I got a tampon for me.
I can't remember what I got.
I got something for myself.
I originally meant for myself.
I got a tampon for me.
And, yeah, thinking, okay, now we're not going to probably order out food tomorrow, so we need to stock up for a couple of days here.
And, yeah, so I'm mad at all these other people because they should have had the foresight.
Me, this was the last.
I got a lot going on.
It was business Wednesday.
We had, like, four or five calls yesterday.
Had to go to the gym.
Now here I am.
So I'm mad at the public because they shouldn't be there.
Everybody else should have known ahead of time.
Do you think they're open today on my way home?
Probably, right?
I think they are, yeah.
Yeah.
We went.
It's very important with kids.
But it's easy because you buy like the same
six things over and over so we just buy a lot of those you know you know it's not it's not difficult
um yeah yesterday okay i was gonna say quite the business wednesday i had a um a business power
lunch with mike soroy. Whoa.
Well, it was his power breakfast, right?
Well, it was noon, but of course I ate breakfast.
Okay.
I ate an omelet.
And it got me to thinking, this is kind of a gummy thought.
It got me thinking like of what is the role of lunch in a public place?
Because he was like, hey, do you want to meet up? Talk about some stuff.
I'll come to you.
And in my head, I'm like, yeah, that sounds great.
But he hadn't seen my house yet.
Why can't you just order a pizza and have someone over and eat it in your kitchen?
Why do you have to go to a place, pay more money, and meet there? And it just got me thinking.
It's because it's neutral, right?
If you want to have a conversation, people want to have it at a neutral place.
And also, if there are other people around you talking, you're more likely to have a conversation.
I just started breaking it down in my head.
Why are we actually...
I could get us a pizza for $15.
We could eat it at my house.
You'd see the house. We don't have to pay a waiter get whatever drink you want but everybody's like
i'll meet you at lunch i mean you could certainly do that pizza bit with somebody you're as familiar
with as sir roy but i but usually just like a business but i'm very familiar with him and it
still would have felt weird to me as an adult to be like, come on over to my house. I'll order us a pizza.
Get the paper plates out.
Yeah, like we're not watching a game.
I know my wife would be bent out of shape about that
because she's like, oh,
she has to...
If people are coming over,
you must know that our house
never looks like that unless people are coming over.
Sure.
See, I will be blowing
the blower off the driveway
or whatever because I do it every day.
She will
clean up and vacuum if
people are coming over.
I just think this is the way we should always...
Wouldn't it be great if you just kind of cleaned up,
tidied up every day?
It didn't take that long, did it?
We're in the same boat on that one, brother.
But if people are coming over, yeah.
But I think you go to lunch because other people are talking.
That's interesting.
I never tried to evaluate that.
That is a gummy thought.
It is.
So I had lunch with him.
That was great.
I had a coffee at the end of lunch.
Who's manning the dumb zone chat right now?
Is that a thing?
That'd be me.
Okay, see, I see somebody not paying attention to the show
and just answering people in the chat.
I didn't know if Sphinx was in there or if it was you, Blake.
I didn't miss any part of the show.
God, dude, he's taking it.
Dude, blow me up, Dan.
F Blake.
No, Blake was Last night Texting late
Like hey I'm gonna
Get up real early
And we could just
Do the show
At 7am
And I'm thinking
That's a terrible idea
Like we'll have
Just gotten up
I don't like
Doing the show
From here
I think it's way better
If I'm over there
Yeah but then
You counterbalance that
With us doing it
At 7 o'clock
In the morning
People
If we were gonna
Livestream Probably not gonna listen And then two I didn't have shit at 7 o'clock in the morning. People, if we were going to live stream, probably not going to listen.
And then two, I didn't have shit at 7 o'clock this morning.
Well, we could have recorded it and played it back live.
But, I mean, as far as like the chemistry of the show,
but also running levels and doing all this other stuff,
I just think it's better if I'm there.
Built-in excuses, built-in excuses.
Look, McCarthy just got signed by the Bears.
No way.
See, that could happen if we were live streaming now.
Why did I fall for that?
God, I've worked with this guy for so long, and I'm like, really?
Dumbass.
Well, you, of course, know the answer couldn't be that he had that
because the Cowboys have denied him permission.
Yeah, yeah, I thought maybe it had happened fast or something.
That's a weird story for sure.
Weird story.
Elsewhere yesterday, I just wanted to let you know,
seeing the weather was coming in, and I thought,
you know what, I got to get these Christmas lights down.
This is the – we still have a few houses in the neighborhood,
and I didn't know if Jan 9 – like, it's real weird territory.
I've had my Christmas lights turned off for the last couple of days.
It's just the big Merry Christmas sign.
But I never want to be the house that kept them up way too long.
And a couple of my neighbors now with the Christmas lights,
it just feels way too long.
It's like, come on, man.
Let's get over it.
My neighborhood still has a bunch of inflatables up and lights still on their houses.
Yeah, I don't think twice about it.
Maybe it's because I have little kids, but they don't care.
Are yours still up?
Yeah, because mine were done by our friends at ARP Wash,
and they have an appointment to come get them.
It might have been today, actually.
I seriously doubt they'll be there.
But if people wanted to leave them up all year, I'd be fine.
Just to piss Blake off.
That's funny.
Yeah, I've got my Valentine's Day sign up in my yard right now.
Listen, my daughter asked me last night,
why don't we do Valentine's Day lights?
I'm like, that sounds awesome.
Because I'm not a joy sucker.
What are you going to be for Halloween this Friday?
Speaking of this weather, it is a
great thing that I had
the guys at Community Mechanical come over
here. Have they been over to your place yet?
No, that is coming
very soon.
Once everything's done, they're going to come over and be like, did they do a good job with this?
There are HVAC company.
Vocational.
Yep.
No, I don't know.
What is it?
Ventilation.
Ventilation.
Yeah.
Well, I just know it's heating and air conditioning and then other stuff.
Ventilation apparently is important because they helped me.
They found something. They just kind of did the once-over, the check that they'll do,
maintenance, preventative maintenance.
And they saw like a, what is it called, a duct.
Let's see.
Your exhaust duct from your furnace was disconnected,
basically dumping carbon monoxide into your attic, which could be deadly.
So they discovered that, repatched that up.
But it's not just preventative maintenance.
They will come to your house and get you set for this big winter.
So we got one cold spell coming now.
They're expecting more.
You should check out communitydfw.com.
They're great dudes, big listeners.
469-667-7290. Just set them up to come out just
to give you a once over preventative maintenance. But if you need anything, community mechanical,
they are the guys to get a hold of. So tell them you heard about them here on the dumb zone.
Whether it's changing out an old system, making sure all the rooms are
cooling and heating property, whatever.
They're going to help you.
I know it wouldn't work for something online, but is it possible that we could talk clients
into a deal where people don't say, I heard about it on the dumb zone, but they sort of
cryptically say, like, Terry told me to call.
Interesting.
But the receptionist or whoever's taking the info was like, oh, shit,
Terry. Okay. We need something more that stands out more than Terry, I think. Yeah. This genius
idea just came to me. You know, like Steve. Sure. Anyway, so what do we got early here?
Anyway, so what do we got early here?
You know what?
We have big, giant, what do we call the mail thing that we're doing?
I can't recall.
Big, giant mailbag thingy.
Fossil inclement thing.
Our Thursday mailbag.
And it's not in the mailbag,
but somebody had emailed and said,
hey, did you guys do
an MBR for December?
Dude, I was thinking
about this last night.
No.
We didn't do one for December?
Like the,
as December ended,
you wrap up,
you review.
Review, I got it.
That's what the R is.
Yep.
It's,
it stands for ventilation.
Tomorrow?
We can do it tomorrow.
Okay.
I think Blake is beaten.
I hear it in his voice.
He doesn't want to do it.
It's a lot of work.
It's fun, though.
No, it's...
Hey, you should moderate the chat,
but you should have had an MBR.
You should have been over here,
even when you offered.
You should have driven through the snow actually to be here right now.
Boy.
Yeah, pretty testy.
I didn't know it was that time of the month for you, Blake.
Sorry, man.
I won't have fun with you anymore.
Second week of the month, you know that.
Yeah, I should.
Yeah, the Mavs won their last game.
That was fun.
I don't know how much Mavs you guys kept up with over the break,
but time sucked really bad.
They make me sad right now.
So Luke is already hurt.
Yeah, it was Christmas Day, and they were already down a bit to Minnesota,
but we know how the NBA is and we know how the Mavs are.
They could have won that game.
But after he left, so did the air in the building, and they got clowned.
But then the next game, Nurk decided he wanted to test Najee Marshall.
And you know what?
Here's my editorial.
It's kind of like the blood on the blood in a penalty in hockey.
The league looking at, hey, I opened my palm and shoved your face really hard to I closed my fist and swung it at you.
That makes no difference to me.
If it's the head.
It's not about whether it was open.
Because, dude, I mean, there's a whole league of it.
You can slap somebody and knock them out.
It should be if you're going at somebody's head. Just like a targeting call. You know what I mean there's a whole league of it You can slap somebody and knock them out It should be if you're going at somebody's head
Just like a targeting call
You know what I mean
So he got suspended
I know part of it was that
He got suspended for
Continuing the fight in the tunnel
Which that part
I can't really defend
But having a guy who's like,
F this. I'll stand up for myself even if it costs me a couple games. I like it. I think that pays
dividends and has impacts in other areas on the team. Now, it doesn't help a lot when P.J. also then gets suspended in that same kerfuffle,
and you're already without Luka, and then they had to play one game without Luka, Kyrie, and Klay,
and now Kyrie's out.
How long's Kyrie out?
It'll be a couple weeks at least.
Because I know their overall record when they don't have Luka or Kyrie is
terrible, but.
Yeah, I mean, what do you expect?
This is a, yeah, you're built on Luka and Kyrie.
Yeah, but they also have great depth.
I would say there's not.
That's what I was about to say.
This is a deeper team than they've ever been.
Dude, going back or watching the game from Tuesday night today,
they get run off the floor in that game last year.
They didn't have Gafford either.
Now you got Dinwiddie, you got Jaden Hardy playing.
Klay Thompson closed out the first half on a 9-0 run by himself, and that's what Klay
Thompson can do.
It was a close game, and he just went three, stop, three, stop, three, stop, and then Dinwiddie
dunk at a dunk to end the first half. So 11-0 run.
They're trading buckets in the third quarter,
and then Hardy goes on, hits three straight threes,
or four straight threes on his own.
You're going to have to have that, but then you have Grimes, you have Marshall.
P.J. can score.
They can go with like a small, big where they have pj washington um there's gonna be pj
washington cleba and lively out there together it's gonna be a rough go and to be honest my
feeling right now the mavs is this is going to end up being one of those seasons that we remember
as like damn that was an opportunity but you have a team with Luka who is injury prone and Kyrie who is old.
Wait, what do you mean?
I think this is going to be tough for them to overcome.
Oh, like this stretch is going to set them back enough in the standings?
Dude, I mean, you're going to be without Luka for at least another,
you'd have to figure, eight games.
At least.
Yeah.
He's not looking good.
He had like a walker.
So I don't think he's back at, you know,
he's probably more likely 12 to 16 games,
and then Kyrie's another 8 to 10.
The West is too good.
I think this team, I might have tweeted this over the break,
is the best at full health, the best Mavericks team ever.
Yeah, we've talked about that.
Obviously, the 2010-11 team had the most insane run.
But this team, I think, was built for a title,
and I have a hard time seeing it right now.
You just can't have both your top two guys out at the same time for that long.
You just can't.
Do you enjoy Barkley versus LeBron?
I don't know.
I get tired head, I guess, over.
Just all LeBron?
No, over this, over Barkley-LeBron.
Really, like Barkley is funny to me,
but I never really was that entertained by his, you know,
when he would talk. I guess it was Shaq
with Dwight Howard, and that's popping back up too.
It used to be Barkley versus
Dirk.
It's somewhat of a bit.
It's an interesting bit just because
I wonder what it is
because Barkley
used to be really good buddies with Jordan.
And then supposedly they kind of had a falling out and it might have been over some things Barkley had said.
Correct?
Like on TNT.
And it almost seems like he goes out of his way now just to let everybody know publicly that Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time and that nobody can even come close.
And you don't know, is that part of this whole thing?
Like he's trying to show Michael Jordan, hey, whatever.
You know, I had to say a few things because that's just what we do on TV.
But, you know, I still love you and I want I want to get back together here.
I want to get back together here.
And then also because it's Barkley,
and Barkley used to do Barkley versus Dirk,
is this just kind of a Barkley bit?
Because I do think Barkley's genius,
but I also think part of that is that he does a lot of bits.
Like he's just not serious X's and O's sports guy.
He is, but he's also really funny,
and he knows how to rile people up.
He knows how to talk about Galveston or San Antonio or whatever, you know.
And, like, he plays the game.
That's why he's so good at what he does.
It's kind of like McAfee in a way.
In a way, just that, you know, does he believe certain things or is he doing it because he's a great showman?
Yeah, I think it's more of the latter.
Because even the thing he said of three years ago it was Russell Westbrook,
then it was Vogel's fault, then D'Angelo Russell's fault,
then it was Darvin Hamm's fault.
It's always somebody else's fault.
Isn't it very possible that LeBron has been awesome that whole time
and all those people that they put around him sucked at their job?
It's possible.
Yeah, I mean, he's still getting it done.
And speaking of that, I thought this was funny from last night was a TNT game.
So we had a little Kevin Harlan, Reggie Miller.
And in the first quarter, LeBron had a dunk that I can't believe was real. In year 22, age 40, a sort of like
switch from right to left hand windmill left hammer. Taking it from the top of the key.
Insane. Yeah. Over lively. Yeah. So that was awesome. And, you know, they were showing the replay a thousand times.
But, you know, LeBron's busy in timeouts.
So, you know, it's kind of like I didn't see this happen,
but could I find someone who's friends with someone who did? Let's go to Allie LaForce with Max Christie.
Oh, we did not plan for that, did we, Blake?
Oh, you're not plan for that, did we, Blake? Mm-hmm.
Oh, your audio. On the move here, our own Al of the Force had a
chance to speak with Max Christie
on his thought
from the King.
Well, Max,
all of us are just in awe of what LeBron James
is doing at his age, and we're still replaying
that dunk over and over in our head, as I'm
sure you are as a teammate.
What was your reaction?
What was it like from your view?
Yeah, I got the offensive rebound kind of on the baseline.
I see him sprinting down the lane.
I just give him the pass.
Okay, it doesn't really matter.
The point is, they're like, all right, LeBron.
Since I couldn't get LeBron.
Here's a guy who knows him.
Yeah.
That's like I used to, when we would interview a lot of Mavs, back when our producer used to book us guests.
Dude, you're on fire today.
When we used to interview a lot of Mavs,
we would always ask them about playing with Luca.
Sure, or Dirk.
It just felt weird.
Yeah, it did.
What's he like?
Yeah, I know.
What is Luca like?
And everybody gets asked that, but I guess that's part of the thing.
But it is funny to just –
Like, I mean, Max Christie plays.
He's not a huge player for them, but still it's like, hey,
what was it like whenever you were kind of close to LeBron
when he did something awesome?
That was funny.
LeBron passed Michael Jordan with 30-point games,
all-time 30-point games.
I love LeBron versus Jordan discourse.
I know you do.
Bring me more of it.
It's just very weird to me.
LeBron said,
anytime I'm mentioned with any of the greats,
or arguably the greatest player to ever play the game,
it's super dope for me.
It's very humbling.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
It's very humbling.
So you know how a lot of the talk around the NBA over the past month or two
has been the way people talk about the NBA?
And J.J. Redick.
Yeah, they're too critical.
That's why the ratings are going down. Which, by the way, I kept up with that over the holidays. Bring. Redick. Yeah, they're too critical. That's why the ratings are going down.
Which, by the way, I kept up with that over the holidays.
Bring the league up.
Once you factored in the Christmas Day games,
which did huge numbers even with the NFL on.
Now, a big part of that was you had LeBron versus Steph.
When you factor in the Christmas Day games,
the ratings are now almost exactly where they were.
You didn't know that this huge payment was coming to your account when you projected the budget?
So anyways.
You didn't know that you've been up against the NFL throughout the first part of the season?
Yeah.
So that's a big deal.
Follow-all has gone on about it on Twitter.
Like, hey, this is my perspective on this.
I don't know that I really ever noticed it,
that people down the league when they're talking about it.
And then this happened last night, and I thought,
that's kind of what they mean.
So this is a Laker team that traded D'Angelo Russell to Brooklyn.
Boy, look at that scratch there on Lively's face.
Lively's got like a scar from Lion King.
Come on, we need more of that stuff.
Four and a half to go.
Davis at the line.
Watch it show.
It's like up and at him.
You heard him say, we need more up and at him.
We need more of that stuff.
And Reggie Miller said, mm-hmm.
Free on all your favorite devices.
I'm with you, partner.
We need to start being able to hold a little bit, scratch a little bit, claw a little bit.
Davis.
So I get that that's it, right?
It's the older guys saying that, hey, we need to scratch and claw and be more physical.
We need to hold.
It sounds like Manny Pacquiao talking about football.
Holding the guy.
Rubbing.
I don't know, dude. I watch the
NBA now and I'm like, that looks pretty physical
to me. They're not punching each other
like they were in the
it's not Bill Lambeer, but
I know people take a lot of
threes, but I think the NBA is still a really
physical game.
They just don't fight as much.
Yes, the rules have changed, hand checking,
they've freed up the zones a little bit for offensive movement, but I don't know. They
make it sound like when you watch the league now, it's like watching the Ball Brothers
at Chino Hills, and you're just like, look it, and throwing the ball from beyond half
court. I don't know. I don't watch the league and think like, God, this is soft.
It's probably just the
fouling. It's hard
to explain to a person who isn't
familiar with the game what exactly a foul
is sometimes. And the game does
slow down a lot during
stretches when guys are just foul
baiting. I think they've gotten better about
not giving people some of those calls.
The Harden or the Durant
rip through. They don't give you that as much.
Yeah.
I'm a huge fan of the NBA, but I could see where
someone could get tired of watching them chuck
threes and try to draw fouls.
Yeah. The
threes thing I think is just that's the game.
That's what the game has determined
is the best shot. Why would you change it?
So you wouldn't consider any taking away the corner three
or a straight across line at the top?
I would consider that.
What I'm saying is why would a team with the current rules change it?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So everybody who bitches about it is like, oh, this is soft.
It's like, okay, well, they're taking it because you're taking away the paint.
And you guys can shoot it well enough to
where it's efficient so you you have to change something otherwise why would they just to make
people happy like i'm gonna take a worse shot because hopefully a guy who's a casual will like
this game more so i thought that was interesting and then my final cut of audio for you here
from the game last night which is actually not from the game.
We had a gentleman in here last week, a great listener, who worked in an ad agency.
And his wife was involved heavily in the transition of power from white Jake to black Jake at State Farm.
Because as a culture, we simply cannot come up with another name
for a generic man and uh we just decided hey we'd like to make a little bit more of an inclusive
move here we're gonna get a ripped black guy instead of the dorky white guy but we're not
gonna change his name so i'm watching last night there There's a company called Nerd Wallet, which apparently is also related to money.
As a successful CFO,
I have one secret to help you build wealth.
You need to be careful who you listen to
when it comes to financial decisions.
I'm not a CFO.
No, the guy's taking off those two.
And this is not a penthouse.
It's a Nerd Wallet commercial.
Now his face starts to melt off
Like he's down to a Terminator
He's a cyborg
I'm not even human
I'm Jake
When it comes to finances
Okay
You guys don't think it would be weird
If you were watching the NBA
And twice in a stop set
Every hour it was, I'm Blake.
Are you just upset because they're using your name?
Well, I'm saying it's a generic
name, but there's a lot
of generic names. So I was
like State Farm, that's a little weird.
But they have kind of urinated on
that name. For sure.
Twice. Right. This is clearly
us. When we say the word Jake,
you're going to think of State Farm.
Just pick something else. And now NerdWallet is trying
to take Jake. People just must love the name.
I don't know. It is a popular name, man.
Hey, thanks, pal. People love you.
Hey, thanks.
You know what?
We're going to have John Machoda on the
program in a little bit. We're going to talk cow Machoda on the program in a little bit.
We're going to talk cowboys.
He's from The Athletic.
He writes about the cowboys.
First, we should do the Thursday Viewer Mail follow-up extravaganza inclement fossil thing.
That's what we're going to do, and it is going to be brought to you by Early Bird CBD.
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You know, I was looking at our webpage today, dumbzone.com,
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Because I guess people will hear us talk about Early Bird and be like,
oh, I forgot the promo code and all that kind of stuff.
People will hear us talk about Early Bird and be like, oh, I forgot the promo code and all that kind of stuff.
The most viewed web promo code thing is Early Bird.
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Thousands of people are like, what's that Early Bird again?
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My other gummy thought, I think I'm going to start tagging every one of these early bird spots with this.
My whole life, I just kind of heard this term and never really thought about it.
Do you guys know how noise-canceling headphones work?
No, not at all.
Because I used to think part of it was this big thing covering your ear.
Yeah.
And then now you can get the noise-canceling AirPods.
Yeah.
I'm like, wait.
So it must emit some kind of a hazy thing or whatever. So I'm sure everyone knows this except us as evidenced by the word canceling right there right there in the product
label but there's a microphone that is picking up uh ambient sound waves and flipping them
thereby producing a sound that is coming into your ears that is the opposite exact from the wave.
It is the exact flip of that somehow.
And so that's why it cancels out.
Really?
Yeah.
Blake, you didn't know that?
Mr. Technical Guy?
I also didn't know early bird has a watermelon flavor.
That's really, really cool.
It was all part of the spot.
Okay.
Anyways, I was trying to give a little something.
So you're saying you have some early bird,
and all of a sudden you're thinking about your headphones. Why am I going to lunch?
How do these headphones work?
Fun stuff.
Now, you don't have to just email me.
Oh, I got a bunch.
We all have emails.
I'm just saying Uncle Hotmail's in the title here, but it's ridiculous.
I thought that was demanded, but...
You know I'm a humble, humble guy.
This one kind of is directed towards you from Michael.
Bracket Dan, my daughter was born a month early.
I'm sitting here holding this perfect three-pounder as I write this.
Let's see.
Rate her name.
Please ask Jake to rate her name.
Okay.
Let's go one to five.
Annie June Marks.
Five.
Like good?
Yeah.
That's a great A name right there.
We're going to call her AJ for short.
I also love that.
You love that?
Yeah.
Okay, interesting.
Nora's middle name is June.
Okay.
But Annie's a cool name.
Well, he was preparing for the worst, Michael Marks was.
And he wanted me to tell you this after.
He's tagged it with a threat?
Well, no, no, no.
He said, tell him the name first and then tell Jake that he thought you were going to say dog shit name.
She's named in honor of my late mom who died on Mother's Day after a brief battle with Lou Gehrig's disease please don't
share this until after Jake has assessed the name okay well how about we make everybody happy here
with your daughter has a beautiful awesome name but, but as far as your mom, doesn't
sound like it was much of a battle.
Like Lou Gehrig has destroyed her.
It seems like a rout.
Let's see.
I got, oh, well, I'll save this.
I got to prep something for this one.
I got a lot of anchor words.
Go ahead.
Listener Kevin Turner says inclement.
Weather.
Already on there.
And abominable.
Snowman?
Yeah, I don't even really know what it means.
Big ass?
Huge?
Dude, this is an abominable burger.
What is this thing?
Yeah, we should use it with other things.
All right, that's right above abundance of caution.
Yeah.
And then, listener Matt, his was moot.
But.
What other kind of point could there be?
Those in the, moot is only used with point.
That's the common perception.
But if you are in the old pre-law or poli-sci game,
you know about moot court.
Where you do a fake trial.
Okay, somehow I didn't know about that.
Moot court.
We didn't do a moot court.
When we did the thing... the thing call it mock trial because those are very similar no somehow different when we went to court oh okay well i
guess we never actually never got to trial part right all right that's between much maligned and
misappropriate funds good stuff thank you Thank you, KT and Matt.
We're doing video,
but this will work for audio too.
So Trevor Williams,
I don't know if you remember this guy,
but he was going to get married.
And he says,
will you send me the acoustic or piano version of the
I Never Listen,
Dumb Zone intro?
He says,
I want to walk down the aisle to it at my wedding on new year's eve
trevor williams and then he sent us a
picture here watch the video of him there's he's walking down the aisle
how about that?
That's incredible.
He looks like a guy that would have the dumb zone theme playing.
That's actually one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
That is awesome.
You got a real one there when it comes to the bride.
Although it could be a groom. It doesn't really. That's awesome. You got a real one there when it comes to the bride. Although it could be a groom.
It doesn't really.
That's true.
He never sent.
That's why he didn't send the whole video.
He cut her off right before his mate started walking.
It'd probably be an easier sell if it's a dude.
Yeah.
Dude, just imagine how great it is.
What's for dinner?
Do you say it on three?
One, two, three.
Steak.
Do we have any like, yeah, just real cool bro gay listener.
I know we have a couple gay dudes will at least point out that, hey, I'm gay and I listen and all this.
But, you know, are there dudes that look like that?
Two dudes and they just love watching sports together.
They don't do what stereotypically you might think gay people are not into sports or not or whatever yeah it's just two
dude or guys like us but they just just happen to have some sex together and stuff yeah i think
a lot of times not you'll get like a one-on-one where there's a guy who's into sports or you know
and then but are there how often are there two dudes being dudes, bros being bros?
Because you get guy and lady who both love Disney,
and then they get married and they go to Disney together.
Sure.
Hey, scuba diving.
You can get guy and lady who both love sports.
Right.
So why not?
You can get two bros that both love sports.
And not just like, like hey we like going
to a game we like the jerseys but they look like bears fans type guys exactly yeah or they just
yeah bears fans start making out i'll even say from my hypothetical just like they just it's two
me or you so it's me and you how don't you think that if they wanted to they love sports by the
way that they would have a dominant two-on-two game at any park?
They just show up.
They know where each other are.
They know where each other want the ball.
They know each other's cuts and picks.
The chemistry's got to be insane in the two-man game
when you're sucking the other dude's cock.
It's got to be.
Until you run into twins.
Oh, dude.
Yeah, I don't know.
Wait, so twins that are also having sex?
I don't know.
I don't know that.
The two gay dudes playing twins, that's their competition.
That have to be.
And they may be closer.
I mean, that's like saying then doubles tennis, you should be great with your wife.
And oftentimes that turns into a big argument.
So I don't know that.
I'm not familiar with that.
But, yeah, I mean, but I think the argument part of it is that you had a woman argument. I'm not familiar with that.
But yeah, I mean,
I think the argument part of it is that you had a woman in there.
I'm just talking about two guys.
Just two guys vibing.
You know? Yeah, being on your wife's
team on anything is not a good idea.
No. You want your bro.
You finish each other's sentences,
orgasms, and
bounce passes. Day two, orgasms, and bounce passes.
Day 2, DF number 1472, Eric, wrote about having to pass a drug test.
You can probably take the wedding video off.
Oh, sorry.
Unpresent.
Pass a drug test, okay?
I guess I'll just do everything, Blake.
I don't...
Go ahead.
I have no control over here.
I can't help you.
I thought you could remove that.
No, I'm just a guest today.
Monday, you guys were joking about Jake's kid passing his drug test.
Like I was saying, maybe you can have a little Carter pee in a cup
for you.
He said, this happened to me 13 years ago.
I hope you tell this
on the air for the Thursday grab bag
so I can finally come clean to my mom since
I don't have the stones to do it myself.
When I was 17, I was at the
height of my high school stoner career.
My mom
was the DEA in yoga pants. She had all but caught
me red-handed. She calls me on my way home from work or her way home from work. It fears into a
showdown about my weed use. I became aggressive and doubled down on my innocence. She tells me
she's going to stop and get a drug test at the pharmacy and I'll take it immediately.
me she's going to stop and get a drug test at the pharmacy and I'll take it immediately.
When I fail, she will
take me to rehab for weed
and she will sell the car.
The call ended.
I knew I had 20 minutes before my life was
over.
Panic ensued for a moment, followed by
an epiphany. My 8-year-old brother.
Hell yeah.
He's 13? Okay.
I walk into his room. I speak to him in a soft pathetic
I think he was 17
Oh yeah okay
13 years ago
He was 17
Yeah okay
17 and 8
That's weird already
Speak to him in a soft pathetic tone
Of a man pleading for his life
I tell him sometimes
There are things in life
That brothers need to help each other out with
Things that mom and dad
Can never know about
With a concerned look on his face I pulled out a Dixie cup And said all I need you to do Brothers need to help each other out with things that mom and dad can never know about.
With a concerned look on his face, I pulled out a Dixie cup and said,
all I need you to do is go pee in this tiny little cup and put it under the sink in the bathroom.
That is incredible.
Cut to my mom getting home as I immediately marched into the bathroom before she would set her purse down.
I walk in, I walk out, I hand her the sample of Baby Bro's liquid gold. A few minutes go by, I see her holding the test
strip up to the lights to make sure she's reading
it correctly. She starts
mumbling about how she might have done the test
wrong. She's rifling through the
instructions like she missed a step installing
Ikea furniture.
I not only dodged that
bullet, I caught it, I signed it, I mailed it
back with a thank you note.
This guy rules. Her face
was a mix of confusion, frustration, and
existential crisis. She was not
relieved by the negative results. She was purely
broken.
Those results hit her harder
than any lecture she'd ever given me while
I was exonerated and I lived to smoke another day yeah man what a baller stay dumb and legalize it again day two
eric he says uh here's a bonus picture of me and matt dallas meeting in the wild he somehow met
matt yeah i hope him and his brother is super tight now i guess he he's what, like, uh, like 21. That's, that's incredible.
That's good.
Big brother stuff right there.
Yeah.
Like,
look,
dude,
you're going to have to be down.
We're on the team.
I love it.
Uh,
let's see.
Do I have any,
Oh,
um,
our good friend,
Grady Spencer,
uh,
hit me up.
I'm not really willing to entertain this,
but upon watching Jerry on Landman,
Grady thinks it's AI.
Interesting.
He said if you look at it really closely,
and I don't know that it's AI necessarily,
but he said there's a very similar look to what they
did with the movie The Irishman.
Do you remember the big hubbub
about that?
Like when they tried to make De Niro
and Pacino look or at least
De Niro look way younger and it looked
it was obvious. Yeah. Like it was
still him moving but somehow
they did something to his body where it looked kind of robotic.
Like he was kicking a guy and it looked terrible.
So also, yeah, Grady Spencer there.
And he signed that with also why did the passport not burn in the Cybertruck, Blake?
That's a great question.
People were wondering.
People were wondering. People were wondering.
Uncle Slitsmacker, I'm a high school teacher.
I heard you reference the Pledge of Allegiance.
Monday, Jake mentioned he didn't remember doing it past middle school.
That was true back in the early 2000s.
9-11 changed that.
The legislator passed a law requiring all public schools in Texas to perform
both the U.S. and Texas pledges
and a
minute of silence allowing students
to reflect, pray, or meditate,
which is basically Texas' way
of bringing prayer back into public school without
specifically calling it that.
Also in 2007,
the legislature
added the words, Under God, to the Texas pledge, doubling down on the we're Christian in Texas, damn it, attitude.
Thanks, Rick Perry.
Students can opt out with a parent note, which I guess covers their ass on Supreme Court rulings on First Amendment rights, etc.
So there you go, from D.F. Cullen.
Day one. That's a great
name too. Cullen?
As long as you don't kill your mistress.
I'm unfamiliar with what
you're saying there. We've talked about Cullen
Davis before. Cullen
Davis. Fort Worth. Rich guy?
Yeah, it's a big
part of Fort Worth lore Rich guy. Yeah, it's a big part of
Fort Worth lore.
He got off.
Although pretty much everybody thought that
he did it.
He was the rich guy in town in the
70s. I think it was 70s.
Everybody thought he did it.
I remember one time
I was at a wedding
and I was with was at a wedding.
And I was with, it was my cousin's wedding.
My grandpa was there.
My grandpa was really good friends.
My grandma and grandpa were really good friends with another couple in Fort Worth.
And they would go out together all the time.
And big swinging dancers, you know, in the 70s in Fort Worth.
And the guy, the male, was a cop.
Fort Worth cop forever.
And somehow my wife started talking about Cullen Davis because we had just watched a documentary on it.
And I already knew in my head, I'm like, they definitely knew him.
This is going to be weird.
Because she's like, I can't believe he got away with it.
And the friend, old man cop, was like, I don't know if he did it or not, but we've known Cullen a long time.
And he's always been great to us.
And I'm like, so he didn't kill you?
We've been to his house.
We had a great time. He's a great dude.
To us. To me and Jeannie.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but, you know.
Deshaun Watson
has never...
Happy baby to you.
Yeah, he's been a perfect
gentleman. Alright, let's been a perfect gentleman.
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Here's John Machoda.
Whoa.
We didn't.
How do you like the audio, Blake?
Are you good with what's happening here?
We'll see.
There's a little hum.
There's a little hum that I don't hear when I'm listening to John Machoda's podcast
so maybe it's on our end
yeah we might have to cut this out of the
recorded version
but you want to try and fix this Blake
let's talk John let's see
I don't know it could be on my end I don't know. It could be on my end.
I don't know.
Oh, that sounds perfect now.
Yeah.
It went away.
It did go away.
Okay.
Look how great you are.
The great John Machoda from The Athletic, of course.
I respect the beat reporter move of this guy's just straightforward.
He's about the facts.
He doesn't need some fancy background when he's
doing a spot or an interview. Just let me see that. Well, that's for sale. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I would guess. So what's your scene like this week? You just kind of waiting?
It is. It is. It's a lot of sitting around, refreshing your phone,
It is. It's a lot of sitting around, refreshing your phone, sending out some text messages and stuff. But I don't know, like I used to think it was like annoying.
But this team is really not that exciting to cover, to be honest with you.
Lately, like Jerry doesn't really do wild things anymore.
It's become pretty, you know, anti gambler.
pretty you know anti-gambler he's so it's like the idea that he even be considering bringing back mike mccarthy is not what i would think jerry jones of the 90s would do but jerry jones the
last 10 years that seems like it lines up with even though he might drag out contracts with cd
and dac and he'll do the same probably with micah parsons he ends up signing all the guys
but it's just like they don't do really any, anything outside the box anymore that really,
you know, where it really stunned you. And so, I don't know, I just figured when the season was
coming to an end that it was going to drag out for, dragged out for an extra week with Jason
Garrett. Why would this be any different? Yeah, it's weird. I mean, mentioning Jerry of the 90s,
I feel like the embarrassment at the hands of the Packers would have been,
that's the nail in the coffin. So the fact that it didn't happen then, we should have known there was a chance
that they were looking to keep going with him.
I'm trying to think of the last thing he did like that.
Amari is somewhat.
Amari Cooper?
Yeah, outside the box.
Yeah, I guess he was trying for that with, like, Trey Lance.
Yeah. Like, hey, I made that trade. like, Trey Lance. Yeah, Trey.
Like, hey, I made that trade.
No one else.
I didn't consult with anyone.
I just knew it was going to be great.
Yeah.
And then.
I go all the way back to the 90s of the, like, I wasn't covering the team, obviously,
then I was a kid, but just reading the backstories on just,
it was pretty risky to trade for Charles Haley with just the dysfunction
and things that were going on with the way his behavior and stuff in San Francisco, which was obviously a really successful organization
to take him on. Like that was a big risk. You know, you could make even a case that let's say
maybe even signing Greg Hardy, you know, or obviously there was the Roy Williams trades
and Joey, Joey Galloway signing T.O. and stuff like that. I mean, heck, by today's standards,
you could say signing Brandon Carr in free agency. and that's over a decade ago, would be, but lately, they don't really do stuff
like that. That's true. That's why it's just so funny that this Netflix documentary is coming out,
and it's called The Gambler, because it's like, well, this is clearly about the 90s then, right?
So when is that set to debut? I'm not sure, but it is funny,
because I know they have a lot of footage, they're just, you know, you'd be at practice.
And the funny thing is, whenever you watch any of these like things, if you're watching on Netflix, like you're not seeing the constant like four cameras, boom mics and everything like that.
You're just like, oh, look at this. It's just such a natural conversation that Jerry's having.
He's bringing over Micah Parsons and stuff. But when you're like watching this go down you're just like oh my like the whole thing in carolina i will never forget that uh that that they were going to announce in charlotte that
that's when jimmy's going in the ring of honor and just the way that that whole thing was set up
like made for tv which will i i assume a lot of that will be in this documentary as well um so
you know going back to jake you just said about the paggers thing i thought that alone would put
mccarthy in a bad spot because he had all this footage
and it was just going to be the crescendo of they finally did it.
They put Jimmy in the ring of honor.
And then not only do they lose in the first round, they get absolutely destroyed.
I mean, Jerry had to be so pissed just from the Netflix side of things.
Yeah, that's a tough script to turn into Netflix.
We're going to get trounced here by a team that we're favored by a touchdown against,
or whatever the number was. Yeah, I imagine the Jimmy thing is the end of the documentary,
that it's closing the loop and they're all there together. So you're of the mind right now? You
think he's back? I do. I mean, it's not like, I'm not saying I'm like 90% sure. I still,
I would probably say I'm 60-40 that he's back. But it is a little
surprising because I thought for sure coming off that Packers loss to have this season like this
and to, now Jerry did him no favors in the off season. I'm not trying to say that, but the way
the season started and the way they were just getting their doors blown off at home, I thought
that was like the beginning of the end. But the one thing I keep going back to is that not only
is there a lot of local
media media covers the cowboys but there's such a huge national national brand a lot of national
reporters break stories throughout things all the time and for this entire time we've seen this
train going off the tracks there has not been one other name leaked out of you know if this comes
available jerry really likes this guy i mean we had heard that ad nauseum about sean payton over
for several years.
And because there was never that guy this entire season,
and then the fact that a lot of the coaches that were available in this cycle
are the same people he could have had last year.
So if he's in love with anybody, nobody, if you're in love with a coach,
you're not going to go, we'll wait till next,
we'll wait around the next Bill Belichick, Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel.
Could have had them all last off season? If you really thought, heck,
you could add Jim Harbaugh, you know?
So there's nobody really in this cycle that makes you think, oh, well,
he's definitely going to do that.
And then when you don't hear any names floated out,
just everything just leads you back to, oh,
he's going to try and work out something with McCarthy.
The only time that the one that really made me think was right after the game
though, Mike McCarthy was standing like by the locker room doors,
like hugging all the coaches and stuff as they came in.'d never seen him do that before so that's I mean
there's just been a lot of things that have happened over the last few weeks which had me
kind of leaning one way or the other of man well maybe he's not back you know and the way Mike had
talked and been a little bit more reflective in his last week than I expected him to be so but
I'd still say yeah probably 60 40 he's back – yeah, let's think about when they moved on from Garrett
because it feels similar in the waiting and these –
This Matthew character.
So why did they move on from Garrett?
Was it because they kind of looked around
and all of a sudden fell in love with Mike McCarthy?
Well, it was because Jason couldn't win consistently in the playoffs.
And so then they were like, well, you have to –
that was the whole selling thing with McCarthy is that he's been in the playoffs.
He's been to multiple NFC championships games.
He's been to a Super Bowl that was in our building and he won it.
And so because of all of that, that was the reason that he wanted to hire an established coach like Mike McCarthy.
But if you look at Garrett's last five years compared to McCarthy's five years with the team,
if you look at Garrett's last five years compared to McCarthy's five years with the team,
obviously McCarthy has more wins, but they both only have one playoff win. So that too,
if you take yourself back to 2020, when you're at that press conference, if you were to tell Jerry,
hey, you're only going to get one playoff win in these next five years. And then you're going to also have a loss that you can make the argument is the worst loss in Cowboys history. I just can't
believe that he'd be like, no, no, no,
we'll do another three to five years with Mike right when that contract's over.
No, I guess my point, though, is that, like,
wasn't there some question that maybe they'll bring Garrett back?
I understand he didn't win enough and he found McCarthy, but, like.
You're saying did they move on from Garrett because McCarthy was available?
Yeah, like, which goes to what you're saying.
There's no guy that they're in love with.
There's no Sean Payton hanging out there. If there was a guy, I do kind of think
Jerry would like to move on, but it doesn't seem like he'd like to move on with, like you said,
a Ben Johnson where you, I don't know anything about this guy. I don't know his dad. I know
Schottenheimer's dad, you know, like he needs some connection to put it all together.
I'm telling you, that is so true because, like, when I think of Ben Johnson,
I think of the idea of, like, man, you could pair, like, Ben Johnson
with, like, Robert Sala, and that would be, like, you'd have, like, just,
I think it would really rev up the fan base, everything.
Everybody would be like, wow, this is really a change and stuff.
But when I think about it from just my time covering the team I'm like there's a better chance he hires Ron Rivera or Doug Peterson
or John Gruden you know somebody that he can say oh yeah these guys have been doing it for a long
time the reason why in the like the last month I was thinking Vrabel made sense is because I'd
always heard that Mike Vrabel and Steven have a good relationship down the competition committee
together uh it kind of made sense but it was, but I kept going back to, yeah,
but he was available last off season.
If they really were that tight and he thought that no doubt he was the
answer, then he could have done that last off season.
So yeah, there really isn't.
But I will say with the Garrett one,
it did seem like it was longer than it was, but yeah, it was a week.
And so it would have been,
I think a Saturday or Sunday of those wildcard games in 2019.
That's when the Cowboys officially put out a release that said that they're moving on from Jason Garrett.
What does McCarthy make?
Like where does he rank in the –
Not high.
I mean, when he signed the deal, just because it's not like the players where all the salaries have to be put out there,
but it was believed to be around $5 million.
But now there's been reports lately that it's been $6 to $8, somewhere there.
But even then, that's not close to being at the top where Andy Reid and other people are like that.
And that's another thing that factors in, too.
When you talk about a Ben Johnson or some of these younger guys that might be wanting more stability and more money,
Jerry's never been that way.
He's the one that said he had whatever, 500 coaches that could win with that team in the 90s,
and that was back when he had Jimmy Johnson.
So he's never been the guy that really wants to be a big spender
on a coaching staff.
I really don't think he values coaches as much as a lot of other organizations do.
Well, I'm asking, too, because didn't Mike McCarthy just recently get a new agent?
He did, yeah.
Trying to get himself up in the, hey, I'm top whatever all-time wins.
How am I not even in the top 10 of paid coaches in the NFL today?
Yeah, and that's probably part of these negotiations that are going on right now.
But, yeah, he changed agents from Trace Armstrong to Don Yee.
Don Yee had been Tom Brady's agent for a long time. He changed to
him in the offseason. So yeah, so Don Yee was out at some of the training camp practices and things
like that. So I'm sure that Mike, so Dan, from your perspective, Mike has that as his bargaining
chip that, hey, I deserve to be paid more and that's fine. But then Jerry on his side has
probably got, yeah, but we didn't win at the level that I was expecting be paid more, and that's fine. But then Jerry on his side has probably got, yeah,
but we didn't win at the level that I was expecting to win at.
So let's calm down on pay raises and that,
and let's work more on this level of this is where I want it to be.
And it wouldn't surprise me if Jerry also has other concessions,
like I want this coach or I want to make this change here.
I mean, even after the game, it was thrown out to him,
well, what about the possibility of keeping Mike but having a new play caller and Jerry wouldn't even rule that out and that's the type
of thing I could see being like them having being completely agreed on everything and it coming down
to something like oh yeah by the way Jerry's like I want to have an offensive play caller that's not
you and that could be the deal that breaks it and then Mike goes his own way because Mike has said
that he regrets doing the Kellen Moore thing. He wishes he would have called the offense from day one.
So I don't see him being cool with Jerry going out
and wanting to get a new offensive coordinator.
It's interesting you bring up that they don't pay that highly for coaches.
And something that I know you know very well, I know a little bit,
but I don't think the average fan really fully wraps their head around.
It's coming to the fore more now because you had like Joey from Cowboys Twitter
had that thread about cash spending that whole bit.
But Jane Slater had a series of tweets the other day about talking to a couple of players
who remained anonymous about their time there, whether they want Mike back, etc.
And that was all pretty generic stuff.
But I did find her reporting about, I'll just read it.
The player also added that one of the things that would help Mike McCarthy
is extra help in the weight room and training room.
I asked him to elaborate.
More help.
I mean, like, more bodies.
Most places got so many hands on deck to cater to guys.
Britt Brown's awesome.
He cares a lot.
But he's only got a couple guys to do it.
Same with Harold Nash.
Britt Brown's awesome.
He cares a lot, but he's only got a couple guys to do it.
Same with Harold Nash.
So basically this player is saying, and I think this has actually shown up on those NFL PA report cards.
I don't think the average fan, be it Cowboy fan or NFL fan, understands how cheap this team is.
They really are.
They don't spend a lot of money on things that there's no salary cap on. I don't think that they're by no means spending the least, but they don't spend
like you would expect the Dallas Cowboys. You would expect the Dallas Cowboys to have,
knowing that just if you're on social media, ad nauseum having to see
over and over again,
and I'm guilty of tweeting it out,
so I'm going to apologize for this,
but the team valuation all the time.
It comes out three, four times a year,
I feel like that.
You know, Cowboys worth $10 billion.
Cowboys worth $10 billion.
Don't apologize,
because I feel like you enjoy tweeting that out,
because you know it's just going to piss people off.
I've gotten kind of annoyed
with a lot of things covering the team over the years.
So there are some trolling things that I definitely do.
But yeah, like not being from here and just knowing what the Cowboy brand is.
Like, I mean, I'm from Detroit.
I, you know, a lot of people would think, oh, I bet you wish you'd covered the Detroit Lions.
No, I would leave the Lions to cover the Cowboys.
Like, because I just, it's, it's, it really is the big, it's the big room. It's the big Lions. No, I would leave the Lions to cover the Cowboys. Like, because I just, it's, it's the, it really is the big, it's the big room. It's the big show. I mean, it's like,
everybody knows who the Dallas Cowboys are, you know? And the problem with that though,
is I think Jerry uses that on his side of like, well, I don't need to do all this. I don't need
to overpay. People are going to want to come here, you know? And, and that goes throughout
the entire deal because from afar, what I was getting at is like, you'd expect it to be like,
for probably the last 20 years,
it's pretty safe to say Alabama has the best facilities,
Alabama has the most coaches, Alabama, you know, everything about them.
You're just like, well, no kidding why they win.
They have a leg up.
You would think that the Cowboys would do the same thing.
Like their OC is the highest paid, their DC is the highest paid,
their scouting staff is the highest paid, their head coach is the highest paid.
But it's not. It isn't like that.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I think the Micah negotiations will be interesting based on the way all these
other negotiations have gone and based on what Micah is publicly saying now,
which is very odd coming from Micah,
who has been hyper aware of what everybody in the NFL makes.
It could be a little good cop, bad cop.
And I say that in, it sounds good for Micah to say all that stuff.
But if you're Micah Parsons, why would you believe you taking a little bit less is going to lead to them really being more aggressive in free agency?
They've never shown you that.
And then the bad cop would have to be his agent. And David Mulligata is one of the top agents in sports. Like David Mulligata is not
going to sit there and go, yeah, Jerry, get some other guys around Mike. And we're going to take
a deal here. David Mulligata is going to want to get Micah Parsons to be the highest paid defensive
player in the history of the NFL. And to be honest with you, he should, that's his job.
But it's funny that Micah says all this stuff, but Micah will not be the last person that talks
to Jerry. David Mulligata will be the one that that works out this deal.
You know, David Mulligetta is the one that got that monster deal for Deshaun Watson, you know, fully guaranteed.
I mean, David Mulligetta. I mean, it's very much like Dak and Todd France.
Like these are not guys that are, you know, they're going to come in here and be like, no, no, you want to stay with the Cowboys.
Let's let's make sure we get this thing done. Let's keep you in Dallas for a long time. That'll help your brand. Like, yeah, that's part of it, but you're
also going to pay him well. So it is interesting that he has been saying all the right things,
though, about how he wants them to keep Osa and Chauncey Golsan and guys like that, and that he
doesn't need to get the $40 million, and he doesn't have to be the highest paid defensive
player and all that. But I think when it's all said and done, he ultimately probably will be.
Well, and the way this is usually played out is it's all said and done he ultimately probably will be well and you know the
way this is usually played out is it's the agent becomes the bad cop but then also steven yeah it's
not jerry like jerry might come in at the last second and be like all right i i met with demarcus
lawrence and then we got this deal yeah like it was all the agent and steven were holding this
thing get in a room and be men. Yeah.
Love that.
Of course you'd want, if you're Jerry, isn't it?
Of course you'd want that.
Oh, yeah. The best thing that you have is how successful you are as a businessman.
Like, what are the odds that, yes,
there could potentially be a very, very business savvy player that's out there,
you know, but what are the odds?
Like, how many of those
are there really that you're just not going to completely destroy in a face-to-face negotiation?
What, what were you thinking when Jerry, you were in the post-game thing around Jerry,
correct? I would imagine that's like your main goal after a game.
When he's commenting on how getting contracts done early doesn't really matter.
So I don't think that that makes a ton of sense for most organizations. And I mean,
it's pretty obvious the Cowboys are pretty dysfunctional. The issue I have with this,
and it's not just off this year, just seeing it for several years, and Jerry says it all the time,
and I'm pretty sure he even said it in that 40 minute scrum as well,
is that, you know, he has this high tolerance for ambiguity.
Well, that doesn't mean everybody else does.
That doesn't mean that that's everybody else works great under pressure like
that. And that brings out the best.
So Jerry can sit there and he could have said last year at this time, yeah,
we're signing Dak. We know he's probably going to get $60 million, whatever.
But let's just drag it out because it'll be a storyline all the way.
We'll do it right before the season starts.
I'm not saying he did that.
But you can see Jerry Jones doing that where, for example,
CounterPoint would be a team like you've seen from the Detroit Lions
have gotten most of these guys signed already so that you don't have to deal
with all of those, yeah, so-and-so's not
going to be at camp because he's you know do going to do the holdout but he should be there for week
one and stuff like that you just want to get that stuff away you don't want to have to deal with all
those distractions where jerry welcomes that but the problem that i think that you get into with
that is that he's so experienced in that and that's fine if he does but then how why why do
you think everybody else is fine with that, to have to deal with drama?
Why not get all the pieces in together and have a smooth offseason
and just go into the season not having to have a bunch of drama?
But Jerry loves the drama.
He can't help himself.
Yeah, if you recall, McCarthy might have been during the bye week
when he reflected a little bit.
It was like, you know, I'd prefer to have everyone here in April or May
because even if you look at guys like Kendricks or some of the other guys that they ended up
signing that have played big, big snaps, they weren't here until August because they didn't
really have any cap room because they weren't freeing anything up by signing CD and Dak.
So McCarthy's kind of said like, you know, in Green Bay, we pretty much had the whole team like coming out of the draft, basically. And that's just not the way that
they've done it. Speaking of Detroit, and of course, you being from there, what's this like?
Amazing. I mean, it's not, you don't expect it. That's for sure. I never thought I'd ever see a
time like this in my life like I mean I I
love the NFL for its parody and and you always feel like hey a team could get hot or something
like that but never thinking that like they could become like one of the best teams in the league
and and like one that does multiple things right you know there was always a time when yeah you
could get Barry Sanders right or Calvin Johnson right but then you had to juxtapose that with
Matt Millen or Matt Patricia.
So it's like, it never really, you know,
you never really hit the your expectations, but yeah,
just the way that they're run now, it just is complete one 80. It's,
it's stunning. And I'm just,
one of the other reasons I'm happy that that it's happening too,
is because I'm not a hockey fan at all.
And so I've always been very annoyed by being called hockey town because I'm not a hockey fan at all. And so I've always been very annoyed by being called
hockey town. Because I'm always just like, well, yeah, that's because it's the only team that was
winning. Like, believe me, like if the Tigers are winning, it completely surpasses the Detroit
Red Wings. I mean, I don't know, do you guys know Detroit? Like how many do you really think that
it's a hockey city? Like, yeah, the suburbs of Detroit are hockey towns.
Do you think people in Detroit really are just obsessed with stick and puck?
I mean, let's be serious here.
It's a good point I've never really considered.
It always has annoyed me because I'm just like,
if this team ever got good that plays football, it's a football town.
And so aside from them winning the Super Bowl,
my most prideful moment is certainly the draft
because it was a big told you so for everybody.
I was like, I'm telling you, I told you if the team was ever decent. I mean,
that the people that showed up for the draft was insane. Like that was I couldn't believe like I
thought it would be a good turnout. I did not think it would be like that. And then obviously,
all you have to do is have account for StubHub or Seeky. You can just look at the comparisons
and ticket prices and how expensive it is to, you know, to go to one of their games,
one of their playoff games compared to like some of these. I mean, you can get in an AFC championship game for
probably a couple hundred bucks if it's in Kansas City. You're not going to get in Ford Field if
they have the NFC championship game for under a grand. You know, an underreported part of it too,
just from a narrative side of things, is getting up off the mat after Stafford went and won a
Super Bowl. Like that had to be – you mentioned Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson,
but Stafford is a guy.
He's the guy you drafted him to be.
And then he just goes – the first year, he's like, oh, yeah,
he just won the Super Bowl.
And I remember seeing, you know, all like the malls in Detroit
were selling Matt Stafford Rams jerseys.
It's like, yeah, you pull for your guy, but you're also like, fuck, really?
Like that's all he had to do
they've been so bad for so long that you did find yourself rooting for him just because of the fact you're like you're almost like that's so awesome he was able to get out of here and have success
like good for him they wouldn't allow barry to go anywhere else and they wouldn't allow calvin to go
anywhere else so they were like well we're gonna anywhere else. So they were like, well, we're going to retire then. So it was, the other thing is too, is that that's another one of those things
where it was a big sports debate in Detroit where, well, he's not part of the solution either.
He's been here this entire time.
What has he done?
And so for people like myself who are like, I'm telling you right now, you want him to be,
he's one of the top quarterbacks in the league.
It was, it did feel good to see him go somewhere else and, like, not take even four or five seasons.
Like, you can do it right away.
It was like, I told you the guy's good, man.
Like, I don't understand why you guys think he's the problem here, you know.
Yeah, he was Romo North, right?
Nobody would have thought that they would have got golf
and turned it into what they did.
That was crazy.
Yeah.
Romo North?
We would compare Romo and Stafford a lot.
Phillip Rivers was AFC Romo, and Stafford, to me, was Romo North.
Yeah, can't win the big one until he can.
Yeah, that's a crazy story.
And then, yeah, sending him away, I guess it's kind of like DeMarcus Ware.
Everybody here thought, oh, that's great.
He finally got to win his Super Bowl.
Would have been nice here, but you knew it was never going to happen here.
The whole thing with Detroit, though, is so cool because Dan has a relationship
with Dan Campbell.
He's so Detroit.
He's so Detroit.
But then also they're occasionally trying to have their left tackle throw a pass
and they're going for it on fourth down and they've got all this crazy stuff
they do offensively and defensively for that matter.
So with Harbaugh, it's kind of like Harbaugh's style of play fits Harbaugh.
Or his play calling, rather, his strategy.
Whereas with the Lions, it doesn't.
What fits the Dan Campbell part of it is that they are a very tough team.
Yeah.
It's hard.
Also, it's, I don't know, just so easy to buy into a lot of things he says just because of his appearance.
There's a lot of things he does and says that, let's be honest, if it's Matt LaFleur in Green Bay, you're like, okay, Matt, calm down.
You're not doing any of this.
With him, you're like, I don't know.
He might actually go over there and try and fight somebody right now.
He's kind of crazy.
The one thing I'll say about him, though, is it was hard to buy in right away because of the fact that it is Detroit.
It is a laughingstock. And for him to come out swing with the kneecap stuff right off of Patricia,
it was hard to buy in that like nobody else really wanted him as the head coach.
But the Lions are going to be the smartest one in the room.
And then he's going to have this press conference like it was a little bit.
But then when the way you saw them play, you were like, all right, well, whatever.
press conference like it was a little bit but then when the way you saw them play you were like all right well whatever but a big piece of it too has been that just like I mean I'm not going to say
it's on this level but that they got three draft classes that remind me of the 90s Cowboys draft
classes we were just like wow like I can't believe like some of the guys that they're finding in the
fifth sixth round that are having these like huge impacts and and things like that where that's what
you needed also when they after the Herschel Walker trade that of course you need Troy Emmett and Irvin, but you need a lot of the other guys
too, that you're just like, when you look back, like, man, that team, those teams are so loaded.
And so the, getting the draft stuff, right. Plus with Dan Campbell. Yeah. I just, it,
it honestly makes no sense. Are you going to go to the Superbowl if they're in it?
I won't. Um, I'm going to go to the NFC championship game. I'm going to go back to
Detroit for that. And then if they make the Superbowl,
I'll probably fly back to Detroit. I'd rather be with friends.
I got to cover one Superbowl.
The the one down in Houston where the Falcons blew the 28 to three lead.
And and that was great. And I got to go, I was there for work,
but I just really got the impression of just like, it's just not,
if you're a fan of the team, it's just like, if you can get free tickets or you can get a good deal on tickets
go to the Super Bowl but if your team's in it it's really not there for your team because there's
30% of your fan base there's 30% of the other fan base and then there's probably another 35 40%
of people that are just like don't even really know anything about football and they're just
there because hey it's a $7,000 ticket to get here, and I got invited, so I'm going to go.
You know, it's just not that real crazy atmosphere like you would get playing at one of the other team's venues.
And I say that because of the price and how expensive it is.
And I probably could push and get a press pass, but I don't really want to watch it by myself.
I'd rather be with, you know, friends and family.
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You got to be present for that?
That's a big deal.
I just wanted to conversationally tell my friend John that that's what we'll be enjoying
at our Super Bowl party.
Maybe we'll send you some.
Yeah.
Party gift.
Yeah.
If you join us for one of our playoff football streams, you will walk home.
Not walk home, but you're going to go home with a bottle of Tita.
You can get home however you want.
We have thought about inviting you.
Like, for example, what's your divisional round?
Where will you watch that game?
So the divisional round, it's tough. I if i'm just being honest like for the longest time
i've always tried to sell the idea of like because i've covered so many i mean i've probably covered
at least six or seven cowboys lions games it's been easy to do it because you're working and
stuff like that but when i'm like a playoff game stuff like that i am the type of person i didn't
want to really be around anybody that That's kind of what I thought.
I wasn't a fan of that team.
Yeah.
So just to give you an example, so I get out of the stadium Sunday night.
I write as quick as I can off of that because I wanted to.
I live by the Shops of Legacy, like right in that Plano, Frisco area.
And so there's a bunch of bars around there.
And I'm like, all right, well, I'm just going to go up to this bar that I normally do.
all right, well, I'm just going to go up to this bar that I normally do.
Well, I don't put together the idea that, oh, yeah,
this is the time of year when North Dakota State is playing in the national championship game,
and so all their fans have taken over those bars.
And then the fact that I didn't put together that all those fans
are also Vikings fans.
So I was that meme that they have of the Simpsons grandpa
where he walks in, puts his hat up, turns around, walks over.
I was like, there's no chance I'm watching this in here with these people.
There's no chance.
So I just went back and watched it actually by myself.
Because to me, that was outside of a playoff game.
That's one of the biggest games I ever had to watch Lions-wise.
So I might just watch that one by myself, to be honest with you.
And then if they win that game, then I'll go to Detroit and watch it there.
Who are they looking at playing if things go correctly?
I would like Washington to win.
I just think having a young rookie quarterback having to go into that
environment would be tough.
You don't want any Baker, do you?
You don't want a piece of that.
I kind of do just because of the fact that they beat them earlier this year,
so there's at least that.
That's also why I would like them to play Buffalo in the Super Bowl
because those are their two losses are Tampa Bay and Buffalo.
But I think it will end up being either whoever wins on Monday
between the Rams and the Vikings.
And I can make arguments why I don't want to see them play either of those teams,
to be honest with you.
Even the Rams?
Oh, yeah.
That Lions defense, I could easily see them trying to do some of that blitz stuff,
and Stafford will tear that up.
I was going to say, though, it would be pretty awesome.
They have so much motivation to try and go in there and kind of be the underdog.
I saw the lines have come out for what the projected line will be for those games,
and it's got the Rams to be a seven-point underdog.
He'll eat off of that.
I know that they're not as good as they've been in years past,
be a seven point underdog like he'll he'll eat off of that i know that they're not as good as they've been in years past but i want no part of a quarterback that oh what'd you do did i lose him
we're doing again you're listening to the dumb zone I think we're live. You know what's unfortunate?
Is we were unable to, for you and I, to wrap up our interview with John Machoda.
And I say that's unfortunate because I didn't get to shoehorn in a Detroit parking lot reference.
I wanted him to just leave that interview and then go Google it.
Does that have something to do with sex?
It's a sexual act, but not sex per se.
No! Pump me!
For example, if the Lions
win in the divisional round, or excuse me,
the conference championship, and he is there, would he
have someone eating his butt
while he had his hands on a car
in the parking lot.
That's what they were doing in the Detroit parking lot?
Yeah.
That's fandom.
See, I was going to just plug the One Star Cowboys podcast.
It's a good one.
But, you know, I guess you wanted to do that thing,
and I was going to do the other thing.
You know, since we are kind of on video,
are we going to be on video again tomorrow?
I guess to a more limited audience, perhaps, if we do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted to show you guys something.
Let's see if I can find it real quick.
Because, you know the new Superman movie?
Have you seen that there's a there's a trailer out i've seen that there's a trailer in our file our folders but i have not seen the
trailer itself yeah so in fact i'm glad you reminded me to look in the right place it's in
our folder here uh i wanted to show you guys the superman trailer and tell you why I'm out. Oh, wow.
As a Superman fan from way back,
certainly the original Superman,
you could see the poster behind me
on my wall,
right over there.
The big man himself.
Let's just describe the trailer
and then I'm going to tell you
when I decided I was out.
Okay?
Can I guess?
Superman's black.
Here's like a, looks like a meteor just fell to the ground or something, and it's in the snow.
It wasn't a meteor.
Look, that's Superman.
He's lying on his side.
He's already got his little outfit on.
Oh, look, he's wheezing.
They're flashing back to him walking through as Clark Kent.
Oh, come on.
It doesn't work to make modern-day Clark Kent just a...
Okay, so now I'm not out yet, although I should be out.
Because, lookit, here's Superman, broken, beaten, lying in the snow, bleeding.
Like, how does that work?
I thought you were an instructor.
Oh, no, you can bleed, though?
You can just get scraped.
How far does it go?
Like, how do you get scraped?
Is that like scraping a diamond?
How do you scrape it?
Yeah, how much blood can he lose?
Yeah, is he allowed?
Can he?
Yes.
How do you?
How does he get more blood?
Is there a transfusion somehow with somebody else?
See, I was going to say I'm out because Clark Kent,
this is like a really ripped CrossFit bro that they just put a wig on.
Right, in glasses.
Trying to look dorky.
Yeah.
Like, God, I'm not buying it.
I'm still in, though.
I'm intrigued.
But there is a moment coming up very soon where I will be totally out
and I will never watch this movie.
Okay, Superman's like Kevin James.
Hey.
He's spitting out blood.
Oh, cool.
We've done a little guitar riff on the...
I like that.
All right, Lois Lane, kind of a root.
Lois Lane's always a root, but I don't mind this Lois Lane.
She's more of a...
Root?
Nothing wrong with her. She's Janine Garofalo, but I don't mind this Lois Lane. She's more of a root. Nothing wrong with her.
She's Janine Garofalo, but better, right?
This girl.
Boy, I guess I'm going to need to see another look.
Because I...
You thought she was looking great?
Yeah.
Rachel
Brassanahan.
A little more rooty than I realized.
Oh, she's from Zippy Dippy Bop Dep-Bop-Dee-Dee-Bee-Bee-Boop-Bop.
Mrs. Maisel.
That's her?
Yeah, apparently so.
She's the Beep-Bop.
So Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy, the director of the Guardians.
So I'm supposed to be like...
The well-known James Gunn.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I should be excited.
They're showing the farmhouse.
There's, you know, looks like young Superman, probably with his dad,
who's going to die or something, you know.
Okay, the adopted dad, right?
This summer, Superman now is whistling as he lays in the snow beating.
Is there a dog?
There's something coming at Superman here in the snow, beating him. Is there a dog? There's something coming at Superman here in the snow.
Is it an air bud?
Okay.
Yeah, so his dog shows up,
and now I am out.
His dog, it's a white dog wearing a cape.
What the...
Home.
Okay, we're home.
So apparently we have a super dog.
Who can just...
It's a cape?
Who wears a cape.
And this is not lore?
Like, this is not part of the books?
I do recall, like, as a kid, like, oh, there'd be some comic books with Crypto, his dog, or something.
But that was just the silly comic book
stuff. Like, that's not real,
Superman. Okay.
Where's the super dog? You're explaining
to me that Superman
traveled, you know,
hundreds of light years, thousands, whatever,
to get here, and
he derives his power from
our sun, and we do know
our sun certainly has certain power.
It gives us some certain.
So, all right, I'm going to buy that.
I'm buying the scientific.
I'm in.
How's the dog super doll?
Like, you can just tell him I need to go home because I'm too beaten to move.
I can't do it.
I've fell like a meteorite.
Here, I'll just give you my cape.
You put it in your mouth, and you're going to now drag
me to safety. Did he live on this
other planet also?
No! That's what I'm saying.
They didn't send a
dog thousands of light years away.
What's going on here?
I'm not on board.
I'm not on board. And also, why did they
pick such a lame little dog? It looks like a dog you've had. And also, why'd they pick such a lame little dog?
It looks like a dog you've had.
Yeah, how about a big bat like a Dax dog?
Yeah.
Get Zeke's dog.
Yeah, like my dog would be the Superman dog.
Yeah, okay.
I'm out.
So you guys are with me.
We're definitely with you.
I mean, you guys are probably out no matter what.
Just because it said Superman.
I feel like maybe Blake and I go see it for you,
but otherwise, Superman.
I'm okay.
Being really into Superman feels like something I should be into
because it feels like divorced parent energy.
Like just fantasizing about being able to fix problems with your powers.
Like, oh, I need a real male role model in my life.
What if he were Superman?
Whereas me, I just chose Michael Irvin.
And Bill Bates.
And Bill Bates, yeah.
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Yeah, so most of the news is the West Coast is on fire.
I know.
We can't even focus on ourselves here.
I know.
Hey, we're snowed in.
On our own tragedy.
Yeah, like our whole neighborhood just burned down.
Spent a lot of time last night just flipping around from coverage.
You know, you got to get the reporter in the field.
Like I saw Anderson Cooper was out there.
Fox News had a guy out there.
It might even have been Steve Doocy.
I think about it.
Fox News had a guy out there.
It might even have been Steve Doocy.
I think about it.
But what you really want is that.
You want the on-the-ground coverage.
Like, oh, my gosh, that's apocalyptic looking, the imagery.
What I'm less interested in is how they have to fill time in between the field shots, which is figuring out how much of this is Biden or Trump's fault.
That seems to be, well, at least Twitter.
Yeah.
If you jump on Twitter, it's just all it is.
Now, there are some policy-related things here that are interesting.
Like, for example, recently, the funding for the L.A. Fire Department was cut pretty significantly
in the budget.
So that's not great.
You know, talk about your timing backfires.
I know, but if you want to see the political back and forth I've been seeing
is that, hey, all the Democratic leaders cut the funding to this.
And then I see the retort to that is, ah, yeah, but all these Republican whatever wouldn't help us pass this unless we cut the funding.
I mean, typically, it is more of a conservative fiscal move, right, to cut funding to something.
And like say, oh, we're throwing away a bunch of money on social services.
And sometimes that's true.
But in this case, it's not great timing.
And also, as you said, if you're in charge, people are just like, oh, Democratic leader.
Not different groups of people.
Whatever, yeah.
But either way, it's just a bad bit.
That's a tough one.
And then as far as the Palisades specifically, just reading a lot about, and there are people blaming people for this too,
Just reading a lot about, and there are people blaming people for this too, but really over the last five years, people who live there have been pleading with the city and I guess the governing body over that portion of the city of like, we've got to get a better escape plan here.
Or evacuation plan, because there's pretty much one way in and one way out. That's kind of what makes it unique is that it's an enclave away from the hustle and bustle
of the city.
But when you need to get out of there, and you're probably going to have to need to get
out of there based on where it is and the propensity for fire, people are just stuck.
And that's where you got all those video of people just leaving their cars and basically just running towards the ocean
like there was even uh let me see if i have well i didn't see any of that this excerpt uh
a police officer this is a family that lives there trying to get out a police officer
on the route directed them to head west along sunset where the couple found themselves stuck
in gridlock the road was so clogged with panic residents that traffic was
barely moving. The woman said
an emergency responder told everyone to
abandon their vehicles and flee toward
the beach on foot. Wow.
And so then there's bulldozers
coming through just
totaling these cars.
Because the people can't get out.
They're stuck on the road
and fire is approaching them.
I wonder if you get good insurance back for those cars then.
Yeah, I'm sure you do on the cars.
I did read a lot.
I did see a couple people saying that home insurance premiums in California have just gotten,
they're three times what they were 10 years ago.
See, that's what we always talk about.
Would it be a dream to live out there?
The weather is great, usually.
You know?
Yeah, but...
But everything's so expensive.
The traffic is so big.
So big.
Everything is so expensive.
Your price per square foot type thing.
And then I guess you never even think about, yeah,
insurance in case there is an earthquake.
Yeah, or a fire.
And in fact, I think a lot of those homes' insurance
were canceled in the last year or so
just because of the threat of the fire.
Wasn't it like two years ago that...
Maui?
Yeah, there was a big fire going on then.
Oprah started that one.
What's that?
Oprah started that one.
Oprah, Ellen, Obama maybe?
Oprah started the one in Hawaii.
That's what I was saying, Maui.
You're saying a California fire?
Yeah, there was a California that we were all worried about fish tacos.
Spencer McKenzie's?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now this one I think took Moonshadows.
Oh, no. Yeah. And now this one, I think, took Moonshadows. Oh, no.
Yeah.
It did.
You make me want to smoke.
Is Moonshadows the place we would go with Jerry?
No, that's no boo, but Moonshadows is a place that's right on the water.
I've been there with you once,
and that is the place where Mel Gibson got hammered multiple times.
But one of the times he got pulled over afterward
and called a female cop sugar
tits
and started for some reason in that moment
ranting about how the J's control the
media.
You know, in my day, we're allowed
to compliment people. I know.
Now all of a sudden, I can't... I know.
No, Moonshadows was the
expensive fish place that Norm loved
with The View. Yeah. They would have a DJ also. no moon shadows was the expensive fish place that norm loved with the view yeah
they would have a dj also we did not belong there no no wild scene uh blake sent me this you know
like i said you've got reporters in the in the field they're out there talking to the residents
you know taking the temperature no pun to intended, of the streets. And sometimes live TV, you run into, you know, random people.
Yes, I can hear you.
So the family with the poor little girl who was...
There's a fire happening right now.
Say that again?
So now we have a man just sort of approaching the shot.
There's a fire happening right now.
Fire happening right now.
Say that again?
Why is there a fire happening right now? Fire happening right now. Say that again? Why is there a fire happening right now?
There are multiple fires that are taking place.
Are you serious? Yeah.
In the news though, you're supposed to know.
Well, I don't know how it started. We don't know how it started.
I think it's all the
gay people in LA.
Okay, there we go.
Okay, there we go.
Gina. Wait, I want to hear that again.
I want to hear their comments.
Unacceptable.
Okay.
All right.
It's definitely not all because of the gay people.
Yes.
KLTA.
Well, I don't know how it started.
We don't know how it started.
I think it's all the gay people in LA.
Okay, there we go. Unacceptable. We don't know how it started. I think it's all the gay people in L.A. Okay.
There we go.
We got the... Unacceptable.
Gina, the...
There we go.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Dude, it's so funny.
That's very much...
You know what that reminds me of is like sweaty Jen Olsen guy.
Because that guy was just...
All he was doing was working backwards from that ender.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he knew he was just waiting for the moment.
Yeah.
Let me set this.
Let me set the line here.
The Kazadao, like, what's the deal with the fire?
And when she says, I don't know, he's like, gaze.
Reel it in.
Yeah, I would have had him explain it.
Take me through this.
How?
How can that affect the things
Maybe he had more
A lot of power outages
That's happening
Here or fire
We're still on fire
I guess that doesn't matter as much
As far as the Dallas weather goes
Are the Rams going to play or not
They have put a statement out that said
they hope to play there,
but are making a backup plan.
Contingency plans.
To play in Arizona.
Okay, because yeah,
we got playoff football coming up.
I know.
Man, on that front...
How does that affect the line?
On that front, certainly the Cotton Bowl is going to be tricky tomorrow.
Yeah, I've got a few buddies watching the prices go down, waiting to strike.
I thought about that.
I actually looked on SeatGeek just yesterday and thought,
what if me and Blake went to our annual sporting event together?
Is that what you guys do?
I think we went to a couple Mavs games.
Playoff games together.
But you haven't done one this year?
No, I don't think we did one in 25, did we?
Okay.
Or did we?
24?
Or 24?
Yeah, we did one then, yeah.
So you want to knock yours out this early?
I just like going to sporting events with Blake.
There's something about it I like.
I know, but then if you knock it out now,
you don't have to do it again for the whole rest of the year.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
No, as far as here goes, yeah, the Mavs game got moved up by an hour.
Not sure what that's supposed to achieve.
Like it's at 630 instead of 730.
Seems worse.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's supposed to refreeze
tonight. So maybe they want people
off the road.
As far as power
outages, as of
right now, we got about a thousand people
with no power.
So we'll see. Now we're in Texas.
Now we're in Texas. Well, the Mavs thing.
Okay. Yeah, that was my transition.
School's already shut tomorrow.
Back to California.
Okay.
Well, Brian Curtis texted me earlier.
He said, sorry for the delay because we're trying to book Brian Curtis.
First I was trying to beat the storm into Fort Worth for the UT game.
Now I'm dealing with fire stuff.
All okay, but family had to go to Orange County to get out of the smoke, etc.
You make me want to smoke.
Yes.
Back to Dallas?
Back to Dallas, that's right. Back to Dallas back to Dallas that's right
back to Dallas
uh
school's closed tomorrow
oh my mom texted me
back to Cleveland
it's warmer in Ireland
than in Texas
what a mom text
that is just
that is uh
tailor made right there my man she loves the weather dude i know
but she definitely has it bookmarked wherever her grandkids or kids live and we'll follow that
and yes if the weather dips below 30 she's texting me you know how's everything
is it cold there how How are the dogs?
So if we were to try to work backwards here,
she probably has the weather app on her phone
where it shows you the temperatures in all the different locations,
I would imagine.
Yeah.
And so Dallas or Southlake is one of them,
and apparently we're finding out Ireland is another one of those locations.
She's been to Ireland with Rose.
Okay. They traveled to Ireland with Rose. Okay.
They traveled to Ireland together.
Is McDowell her maiden name?
No.
McKenna is.
Oh, okay.
So she's got something in her.
Okay.
Scottish, Irish.
I don't know the difference.
What is her last name right now?
She goes McDowell.
That's an interesting one.
That she's kept.
Yeah, I mean, they weren't married that long.
And she was married two more times.
Well, she had two kids that weren't McDowells.
And she was McDowell.
So she just kept McDowell.
I'm not sure.
Maybe even in her next marriage, she might have kept the name McDowell.
Dude, want to talk about dad number two getting C-U-C-K'd.
Dad three, yeah.
Or three.
But I'm not sure.
But it is an odd thing, though, if she did go to Smithbauer, which was her next husband,
if she then reverted back to her last husband, not her actual maiden name.
Yeah.
That's a tricky one.
What's up with ladies and changing names?
That does seem like a beating.
I think it's generally all to appeasement.
It seems like a beating.
Yeah, it does.
It seems like a huge beating.
Of course, the airport's taken in the short.
1,600 flights canceled out of DFW and love.
Boy.
This is the type of stuff that you should just really appreciate.
I don't know how it will be for you today, Dan,
but when I get home today, I'm just going to play in the snow for a couple hours.
I'm not dealing with any of the downside of snow.
I hope it's packing snow.
I'd love to roll a nice snowman.
We did that this morning.
You did?
Is it packing over there?
Yeah. It was real snow over. We did that this morning. You did? Is it packing over there? Yeah.
It was real snow over here.
Mine was pretty thick.
Dude, there's nothing that like...
That's what he said.
Yeah.
Nothing that little kids love more.
I know.
So let's wrap this up.
There's your news.
Oh, Jesus.
The dumb snowman.
My wife was at the grocery store yesterday
not preparing for the snow or anything.
It was to get carrots for the snowman.
Hey.
Really?
Listen, I got some extra carrots for my timely soup.
That was her preparation, Nat.
Yes.
No, not to put carrots in a stew or soup.
You don't have any food.
Dude, I respect that.
I respect that a lot.
It's to build a damn snowman.
She was in front of me in line.
She's got a lot.
Damn snowman.
She was in front of me in line.
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Well, I got a couple of viewer mail birthdays to slip in here.
And then we'll do today in history.
We have from Nico.
Uncle Hotmail, I'd love a shout out for my birthday January 8th, day three or day fiver, I forget.
Blake is a legend.
I'd like to thank Jake for the beer at the Jimmy Nelson show.
Heck yeah.
Nico Pizzarello.
Pizzarello.
Great dude.
P.S. I work in live production.
If I could be of any assistance to y'all, don't hesitate to help.
How about today?
Yeah, where were you, Nico?
Yeah.
What's this guy doing?
I think Nico either currently or previously worked at one of the churches that has Santa, like, flying in on a jet.
Really?
To surface for Christmas.
You know, you've seen those videos.
Yeah.
Like Owen Hart?
It's very similar to something you'd see
on the WWE dear Sultan of the wizard
sleeve I'd like to wish my wife of eight
years Jen bunker happy birthday JB she
is a Dan fangirl and a day one DF number
14 damn we got a lady in the first
fortnight I out of myself on Wednesday A1DF number 14. Damn, we got a lady in the first Fortnite?
I outed myself on Wednesday, her actual birthday,
for forgetting to submit a birthday shout-out,
but I was promptly corrected that it was business Wednesday.
I still had time.
She gifted me a subbie for Christmas.
Let's go.
Being a new listener, that fact was lost on me.
How about that?
A two subsubby household.
Wow.
I know there's a lot of you out there ripping us off, and I'm not mad at it.
I just respect these people a little more.
Her leaders, which I'm making up, are the Roast Twins and Blake's terrible attitude about anything worthwhile.
More Sarah Heppela, more Saroy
From Matt Bunker
And finally I have Hey Dan
If it's not too late, happy new year
It is
Are we going to read the rest of this?
Sure
Like Jake, I also have a daughter who celebrates
a birthday today, January 9th
Happy birthday I'd like to wish
happy Marion Barber birthday
to my daughter, Caitlin Schindler.
Whoa. Her leaders are
Nora Kemp's video sign-offs,
The Roast Twins, and
Blake's Fear of the Roast Twins.
Your pal, former weekly
haircut guy and current fake teeth
guy, Rob Schindler.
Wow. Wow. You know the, Rob Schindler. Wow.
Wow.
You know the great Rob Schindler.
Of course.
Is your daughter's birthday today?
It is.
Oh, man.
Six years old.
We convinced her to move the party to an indoor trampoline park this morning.
Ah.
I did get a couple options.
The listeners were very helpful.
Okay. But it was just going to be a lot.
But, yeah, we got it done.
Happy sixth birthday.
She honestly, I know you guys don't care about this, she thinks she co-hosts our show.
Like she knows that we play the thing at the end.
So every day she comes in and is like, I've got like hours of her recording her own talk show.
Because she thinks we play it.
So don't tell her.
Okay.
Yeah.
And is today January 9th?
Because I just had this one come in.
Hey, Clit Conqueror.
That word is always going to be funny to me.
This is the official beekeeper of the dumb zone, day one subbie Weston Stroop.
It is my 33rd birthday.
More roast twins.
Blake's dating rules should be law.
Let's lower the bar on the
shroom epi. I propose Jake's
six-month sober chip is a good enough
milestone.
Hope you're enjoying that honey from
the Munster, Texas
remote. Okay. That's Weston.
Not lowering the bar for doing shrooms on the show.
10,000 subs.
Yeah.
So if everybody who has a single household does a double, that'll get us there.
Or if, you know, if we just get the word out this year a little bit.
But we will do that at 10,000 subs.
Sure.
Or at least that's when you'll know I did it.
Hey, speaking
of numbers and stuff, whatever happened
to the
knockout league?
You knew I'd get there.
I think we're just going to split it.
Okay, they both picked the same team this past weekend?
A lot of upset people out there
wondering if there was collusion or not.
So let's just end this mess, split it, and we'll redo things next year.
Redo how we do things.
Did they pick the same?
Well, we also said you could just keep the 20-point spread on the board.
Yeah, I think in the final six or seven games,
they picked the same all but one week.
But I don't know.
We're not handing out any more or less money.
Charities are still getting the same.
It's not a huge deal, but maybe we'll put something in place next year
to keep that from happening.
Blake hates dealing with people, and I kind of can see his bit.
Yeah.
Like we threw out the other day, you know,
people that want to come to the stream,
and we got really a lot of response
and so now
it makes me feel bad
I'm going to have to say
no to a lot of people
but I'm going to
they'll be totally cool
about it
don't worry
I'm going to try
and offer like
some future games
you know
I want
I want the people
to be happy
but I can understand
but the main thing
is that if they're not happy
they're not happy
with Blake
yeah that's better.
That would be better.
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Thursday, January 9th is today.
We're all snowed in.
Well, we're not all snowed in.
Just Blake is snowed in.
I might do some donuts.
Well, you're technically snowed in.
I mean, I would have gone to your house if you asked me to.
Just to see it.
I'm famously a good driver.
Famously a great snow driver.
This day in 1962, the NFL banned grabbing face masks.
So before 1962.
I did not know this.
Woke.
That is pussy stuff.
Woke.
I didn't know that.
That's crazy.
The next year, yes, they mandated purses.
So how long is that?
If you think about, like, when did helmet become law?
What next?
They're going to wear shoulder pads?
On this day in 1998, three days after it was sawed off,
the head of Copenhagen's famed Little Mermaid statue
was returned by a hooded man who dropped it off at a TV station.
Damn.
What if it was Trayvon Martin that dropped it off?
Why would it be Trayvon Martin?
Didn't he have a hood?
A hood?
Yeah.
Good God.
Or maybe it was the Unabomber.
Okay.
Who do you know that wears a hood?
Bill Belichick.
Bill Belichick, the Unabomber, or Trayvon Martin?
One of those three.
Mr. Robot.
We've narrowed this down.
That's a great guy who got away with it.
Copenhagen statue.
The other guy, the guy who stole the OJ bust from the NFL Hall of Fame,
felt the pressure, and like two weeks after,
just threw it in the middle of a highway somewhere, like off the side of a highway.
Somebody found it.
Like, he had it, though, for a couple of weeks.
Yeah.
He had it in his basement in Ohio.
What do I do with this thing?
Like, all his buddies were looking at it.
They're all baked.
Or at least I was when I was talking about it.
Yeah. On this day in 2007, Steve Jobs unveiled the iPhone, which would go on sale the following June.
Man, I remember I was living with a good friend of mine at the time, and he got one.
And I didn't even really know it was coming out.
And I was so pissed.
And not because he had something that I didn't, but because we stopped talking.
Like, we were just sitting, you know, we're both home from work. We make our trash dinner or
whatever we do. And we would watch TV, watch sports together, probably smoke a bowl, kick it.
And I realized about a week after him having it, it was like, we just don't talk anymore.
He just looked at his phone and was like, I got the internet's right here.
I got everything I need.
And I'm like, this sucks.
And now life is like that.
Exactly.
Damn, man.
I know, I'm thinking about it.
On this day in 2017,
Deshaun Watson and Clemson
defeat Alabama.
The first team to beat
Nick Saban's Alabama dynasty in a national
title game. Dude.
Those teams, those Clemson teams were
fun.
Who was that? Renfro?
Was that him?
Is that right? Yeah, I think that's right.
They've had a couple of good
gringos.
Today's
birthdays, we have former Ranger Otis Nixon is 66.
You familiar with him, Blake?
I don't think so.
He's got Otis Nixon ahead.
He does.
So he's a very speedy outfielder.
I think he would later have a run-in with cocaine or the law because of cocaine.
Yeah.
But a very fast outfielder.
He was a Cleveland Indians outfielder who at the time, the Indians were always a terrible team.
And they were always, at least we would have sports discussions on the playground.
Like I didn't get to ask John Machoda if he was on the playground doing Emmett or Barry,
but certainly he was.
Oh, no doubt.
I mean, I was doing that one.
But the Indians had discussed moving the outfield fences back
because they had this fast center.
Like, they were going to build their whole team
and change their stadium dimensions because of Otis Nixon.
They thought he was that good at the time.
He had like 30 steals.
Yeah.
Big plans.
Chad Johnson, 47.
He's had a wild life.
I really enjoy his post-playing career.
He's got a lot of babies.
And then Antonio Brown takes it up a notch.
Oh.
Or many notches. Several notches, yeah.
But you kind of thought, oh my god, this is the craziest
any wide receiver
could get after their...
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco, six kids.
I mean, like, when he did the legally
change his name thing.
That's always.
There are not a lot of stable people doing that, you know?
Yeah, what's the point?
Unless you're doing what Prince did so that he could stick it to the record label.
However, I do want to say that we have a listener who's doing it,
and while the guy seems wild, he also seems stable so i guess it does happen you just decide late in life like hey
is he doing it for bit purposes seems like it bit slash business which if you can make your
business bits why not what sub level do we have to get for you to change your name legally?
You play your cards right.
It could happen with 10K when I'm whacked out on my terms.
What did your dad want you?
Rock?
Rock, yeah.
And your brother, Brutus?
Yeah, I can't remember.
Those were the two names, though. Yeah.
Sergio Garcia, 45.
Donovan.
Ricardo Pepe is 21.
Who?
Apparently a famous young soccer player here in Texas.
I'll cross that.
Hold on.
I was going to say, maybe he doesn't.
We're never going to read that one again.
Delete that one for next year?
Muggsy Bogues is 60.
Wow.
That was a big deal for kids kids He could never dunk, right?
Like Spudweb could dunk
Muggsy Bogues couldn't dunk
No, I think the Muggsy
The Muggsy Bogues dunk we saw
Was fake, right?
Or was that a fake Spudweb one when he was old?
Was Muggsy Bogues in the league
Or on the same team as
Manute Boll?
I don't recall.
And they're pictured together.
Like Manute Boll was like 12 feet tall, Blake.
You ever hear of Manute Boll?
Yeah, Jake said his son would be a top five pick in the NBA draft.
Oh, Boll Boll.
I think he was, wasn't he?
No, he wasn't because he got hurt.
Oh, okay.
He just missed the mark as a late second round pick.
He broke his foot right before the draft.
Yeah, I guess LeBron would have been a second rounder had he broken his foot.
He might have been.
You don't know?
I guess we'll never know.
Actor Catherine Walker is 82.
She is the owner in
Slapshot. Blake, you ever seen Slapshot?
No. It's good.
It's worth your time.
Didn't you want to do a thing
where we eat, you know, you
had to say, hey, you're going to watch this movie
this month, all three of us, and then next month
you get to pick a movie, and the next month Blake gets.
I think that would be good. Well, it's January.
Yeah. Pick
something. Did you just
illustrate to me that it is a
month? Well, no. I mean, it's the beginning
of the year. Your diet
starts on Monday, and we start this mid
in January. The year of Jake? Okay.
That means you'd have to have four movies
for us to watch throughout the year. I just
did that math real quick in my head.
I'm sure you didn't need the GPT for...
I might have been typing on the phone.
Yeah, I don't know.
Are you saying Slapshot might be on yours?
No.
That's like a wasted...
It would be wasted.
I'm just saying, let's think about it.
Okay.
Then let's have a meeting.
That's what you do on the Business Wednesday meetings.
You have a meeting, and then you're like,
all right, well, this is good leading into our next meeting that we're going to have.
Because we've got to have another meeting about this.
We can't decide anything now.
Like, we've never decided a thing in one of those meetings.
I, personally.
Except to have another meeting next week to keep talking about it.
Yeah, I don't want to pull back the curtain here too much,
but I think you're pretty comfortable like that.
Never deciding anything?
Because I'm a little more antsy.
All right, I've never decided anything.
I was going to say.
Let's see.
Actor J.K. Simmons is 70?
Dude, so great. Vern Schillinger in Oz? see. Actor J.K. Simmons is 70. Dude.
So great.
Vern Schillinger in Oz.
Among many other things. For sure.
I mean, he got an insurance check. Right?
Farmers.
David Costabile is 58.
From Billions
and Breaking Bad.
Oh, yeah.
This is
Gale.
Oh.
Yeah, Gale.
Wags and Billions, Gale and Breaking Bad.
Dave Matthews
is 58.
I wouldn't say
weird career.
It's just...
I don't really know anything about Dave Matthews
except there's a thing called the Dave Matthews Band
and people like it.
Like my wife likes it.
Yeah.
Some people are obsessed.
That's their...
He's a very rare, super, super popular act
that also has rabid fans.
You know what I mean?
Like Fish wasn't on the radio.
Does that make sense?
Like he's got the cult but the pop following.
Joey Lauren Adams is 57.
Don't know it.
From Chasing Amy.
Actor Karis Dorsey is 27.
That's Billy Bean's daughter in Moneyball.
And actor John Doman is 80.
You may know him as the police commissioner on The Wire.
Oh, okay.
Or as Dr. Jonah Vogelbaum on The Boys.
They're filming their next season right now as we speak.
That guy scares me.
Also, he does Home Depot commercials.
Does he?
Yeah, he's got a great voice.
I did a little walking at the Home Depot yesterday.
You went back?
Different one.
Different Home Depot?
Or you went to a Lowe's before?
I went to a Lowe's before, a Home Depot yesterday,
and I went to the Home Depot down on Precinct Line Road like two days ago.
This is concerning behavior.
I mean, I had time.
I was on a phone call.
You know I like to take a little walk on a phone call.
Sure.
And we're trying to keep the steps.
Today is going to be very difficult.
Yeah.
I think everybody's going to have to just give each other a mulligan.
I'm just going to have to walk around the house.
Born on this day and now dead, Richard Nixon, Dick Enberg, and Bart Starr,
who had a variety.
Nobody knows how many sons he had or what their names were.
Or if either one of them died and a few days later had a salamander
crawling through his eye socket
because nobody had found the body.
Dead on the stage.
But it is amazing his son's name was Brett.
It's just with one T, but yeah, that is pretty amazing.
The quarterback that would follow you like 17 years later.
What a coincidence.
17 years later.
What a coincidence.
Died on this day, still dead.
Roy Tarpley.
Damn.
I wonder if there's a good documentary about him.
Bob Saget.
Gold.
Melinda Dillon is the mom in a Christmas story.
Were you the one ripping a Christmas story, Blake?
No, I love it.
I watch it every year.
Oh, okay.
Who was telling me they hated it? Which one is it?
Oh, that movie sucks.
Maybe it was you.
Yeah.
Not good.
That's the one with the pole, the porn kid.
Yeah.
I don't even really remember.
Must be too highbrow for you.
It probably is.
Probably is.
And let me ask both of you guys, if you know this name, he died on this day in 1858, Anson Jones.
Anson Jones.
I do know, I've heard this before in this very space, but I can't off the top of my head recall what he
invented.
This is sad.
Because I think you
should know this.
Because every time I talk to you guys, you're like
oh man, I'm a native Texan.
Anson Jones is the
fourth and last president of Texas.
Okay.
Boy.
Says he died of suicide.
Metal.
I don't know that I can help you.
Okay, so obviously Sam Houston.
Are you trying to name all the presidents?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Certainly, this was drilled into my head at one time.
Blake, you got anything?
That's what I mean.
I know.
Everybody brags about, oh, we have Texas history.
You can go to Ohio.
You don't have to learn Ohio history.
Mirabeau Lamar something.
Are you looking up now yeah that's two of them
Sam Houston
oh okay
that doesn't really count
Sam Houston twice
was he
yeah
Sam Houston twice
oh but there's also
he did a Trump thing
yeah
he was it then he left and then he did it again yep Yeah. Sam Houston twice. He did a Trump thing? Yeah.
He was it, then he left, and then he did it again?
Yep.
Well, they stole the election from him.
That's right.
But, okay, so there were five different ones, but Sam Houston twice.
Yeah, David Burnett, I don't remember hearing that name,
but apparently that was for less than a year.
But then Sam Houston.
Yeah, they always talk about Sam Houston as the first one.
Apparently David Burnett was.
Yeah.
I wonder if that's Burnett, Texas.
I wonder if Lamar High School is named after Mirabeau.
No, I don't think so.
Why?
It definitely is.
Oh.
It's actually called that.
I wonder if Jerry Jones is named after Anson Jones. Yep.
The Republic of Texas was a sovereign state from 1835
to 1846. And again in
2025. What does sovereign
state mean?
They had full sovereignty.
They were not a part of any other republic.
So it was its own country?
Sure.
Basically?
That's how it had presidents.
What are we talking about?
Okay, so a sovereign state is...
Yeah.
Like Germany is a sovereign state?
And then it joined the U.S. because it didn't think it could defend itself from Mexico on its own.
That, I believe, is true.
What's the word sovereign mean?
It means in control of your own...
Possessing supreme or ultimate
power. Yeah, like
a sovereign individual.
You're able to make your own decisions.
Damn.
What? You are.
I know. I want to be called that, though. No one's ever
called me sovereign.
That seems great. Write called that, though. No one's ever called me sovereign. That seems great.
Write that down, Blake.
How do we achieve sovereignty for Dan in this year, 2025?
Yeah, that'd be weird.
I forgot about the Dave Matthews poop incident.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Huh?
I assume you knew about that one because we've talked about it.
What's that?
I mean, he denies it, but there is, of course,
urban legend that he dumped,
his tour bus dumped a lot of human feces out of their bus into the Chicago River,
and it got on a lot of people.
A lot.
But it was Dave Matthews' poop,
so aren't they happy about it?
I know.
I think some people might have sued or something.
I think my wife loves Dave Matthews.
That seems like one of the bands
she's gone to see with her lady friends.
Don't know a lot about your wife,
but let me tell you, yes,
your wife loves Dave Matthews.
Well, I think a lot of Karens like Dave Matthews.
Okay.
And also probably Roseannes.
That must be a tough scene, like getting out of that parking lot.
Oh, just...
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the royal rumble of I'm going to give you a piece of my mind.
Is my wife a potential Roseanne?
Like if you're a Karen, does that automatically put you on the path?
No, not automatically.
There may be some crossover, but look.
It feels like there should be a lot of crossover.
We don't have a lot of thin Roseannes.
I'm sure they're out there, but there aren't many of them.
You have to get jowly.
Okay.
You know?
I like having a Karen around.
I'm not sure I'd like to have a Roseanne around.
You definitely don't want to.
Because every now and again, you need a Karen for you.
Right.
On your behalf, even if you're sovereign.
Even still, hey, they've got to have treaties.
So I guess we're doing this again tomorrow.
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