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                                        Other birthdays today you've already heard, Brett Fier, 56, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. is 51.
                                         
                                        I didn't know that
                                         
                                        that they had the same birthday
                                         
                                        they're kind of the same person to me
                                         
    
                                        like late in career
                                         
                                        it's probably the Wrangler thing
                                         
                                        also
                                         
                                        Mike McQuery is 51
                                         
                                        the Penn State guy
                                         
                                        the Penn State guy
                                         
                                        that should probably be a
                                         
                                        I should get credit for a spin on that one maybe
                                         
    
                                        a Kemp spin on Mike McQuery
                                         
                                        did he know it
                                         
                                        I feel like you
                                         
                                        most people don't remember
                                         
                                        well he's the guy that
                                         
                                        was he the one who
                                         
                                        what was going on or the red-headed guy yeah yeah there's no that's not a hemp spin he
                                         
                                        reported it i'm just saying i don't well not i'm not saying he did anything wrong i just don't know
                                         
    
                                        that most people immediately recall the name oh i'm glad you have it on the list but he heard the
                                         
                                        slap slap slap slapping sounds that's right i mean was criticized a bit for you know he reported
                                         
                                        it and then that was kind of it he also didn't like go intervene or anything but uh whatever he
                                         
                                        He ended up getting like millions of dollars from Penn State.
                                         
                                        Did he?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Maybe he thought it was consensual.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Could have been.
                                         
                                        Hunter Goodwin is 53.
                                         
                                        He's a former Aggie.
                                         
                                        Maverick Carter, 45.
                                         
                                        Had a big TV event the other day, the decision two, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I already forgot what that was.
                                         
                                        What was the...
                                         
                                        This is a liquor.
                                         
    
                                        This is an ad for Hennessy.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Josh Giddy, 23.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        Speaking of...
                                         
                                        Maybe it was consensual.
                                         
                                        Although he...
                                         
                                        He kind of...
                                         
    
                                        He got a lot better in Chicago, didn't he?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, he actually kind of refound his career a little bit.
                                         
                                        He's the reason the Mavs got Cooper Flag.
                                         
                                        In a way, yeah.
                                         
                                        Because of Chicago?
                                         
                                        He made that half-court shot.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That's crazy.
                                         
                                        Gino Smith, they're...
                                         
                                        I feel bad for him.
                                         
                                        Yeah, again, he was having sex with the minor.
                                         
                                        Gino?
                                         
                                        Oh, I thought we were still on.
                                         
                                        No, I feel bad for Gino.
                                         
                                        He's just getting demolished.
                                         
    
                                        I'm going to say I don't feel bad for Gino
                                         
                                        because if you go back to the beginning
                                         
                                        of him getting left in the draft room,
                                         
                                        he was one of those guys.
                                         
                                        He's made a lot more money than you would have expected.
                                         
                                        He's not good.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That's a pretty good bit.
                                         
                                        A lot more money than you, yeah, you think he should have.
                                         
                                        He went from, like, total bus just because of the New York thing, you always put on a pedestal.
                                         
                                        He's had a respectable career.
                                         
                                        He's been fine.
                                         
                                        Chris Pronger, 51.
                                         
                                        Troy Toulouitzky is 41.
                                         
                                        Andrew McCutcheon is 39.
                                         
    
                                        Who do you think has a better war between those two?
                                         
                                        What was right before McCutcheon?
                                         
                                        Troy Toulowicz.
                                         
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
                                        Man, that's a really good one.
                                         
                                        Because I feel like everybody who played in Colorado has, like,
                                         
                                        a dumb wins above replacement if you look it up.
                                         
                                        But it's got to be McCutcheon.
                                         
    
                                        Stole a lot of bases.
                                         
                                        Jared?
                                         
                                        Well, I'd say longevity, probably McCutcheon.
                                         
                                        And plus, too low gets counted.
                                         
                                        The Coors Field thing that technically is supposed to be factored in.
                                         
                                        You guys are right.
                                         
                                        McCutcheon.
                                         
                                        Cutchin, one of the more overrated MVP's, though, in my lifetime.
                                         
    
                                        go off
                                         
                                        no i just if you look at his MVP season when he was with pittsburg really wasn't that
                                         
                                        impressive it was fine
                                         
                                        that's jared sandler
                                         
                                        david lee roth is 71 i didn't want to chapie this replaced uh howard stern
                                         
                                        in half the country
                                         
                                        martin kemp is 64
                                         
                                        don't know it musician
                                         
    
                                        pet shop boys for real spandau ballet it says
                                         
                                        oh i was close maybe it's pett shop boys too i don't know
                                         
                                        I don't know. Tanya Tucker, 67.
                                         
                                        Julia Sweeney is 66.
                                         
                                        She, I think, was on S&L, but also Pulp Fiction, an odd casting there.
                                         
                                        Bradley Whitford is 66.
                                         
                                        He was on the West Wing, and he's the dad and get out.
                                         
                                        Billy Madison.
                                         
    
                                        Is he in Bailey Madison?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He looks like Joe Madden.
                                         
                                        Charles Dance is 79.
                                         
                                        He was Tywin Lannister in Game of Thrones.
                                         
                                        Oh, Mario Lopez, 52.
                                         
                                        I'm going to try and catch that movie this weekend.
                                         
                                        Are you going to break the surface this weekend?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, there's a movie made-for-TV movie we were talking about yesterday,
                                         
                                        where Mario Lopez is gay.
                                         
                                        Or he plays Greg Luganis, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think it was called piercing the starfish.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Is he not actually gay?
                                         
    
                                        I don't think he is.
                                         
                                        He definitely seems like the type of guy that is.
                                         
                                        but I also saw a video of him getting served papers
                                         
                                        by like his ex or one of his
                                         
                                        baby's moms or something
                                         
                                        that's the job you want dude
                                         
                                        paper server to Hollywood
                                         
                                        because you're never going to be on the same level as those people
                                         
    
                                        you're never going to have the upper hand
                                         
                                        but in that moment they were
                                         
                                        walking up to Mario Lopez's house in like Malibu
                                         
                                        and some guy who makes like 15 bucks an hour
                                         
                                        was like eat this shit Mario
                                         
                                        threw it at him and drove off
                                         
                                        but I'm sure we'll never be
                                         
                                        friends then. That's true.
                                         
    
                                        You're probably burning that bridge with Mario
                                         
                                        Lopez. Gavin Newsom is
                                         
                                        58. Really creepy, but
                                         
                                        seems to be getting
                                         
                                        some motion. He looks like
                                         
                                        a fake, like fake to me. Like,
                                         
                                        not fraudulent. He looks like a fake
                                         
                                        human being.
                                         
    
                                        Amy T. Garden is 36.
                                         
                                        Friday Night Lights.
                                         
                                        Wife of Taylor or anything?
                                         
                                        No. What happened to him? Is he around the
                                         
                                        area? I don't know.
                                         
                                        and our dumb zone birthday of the day is julian keppke she is 71 in 1971
                                         
                                        how old would she have been uh so 39 25 younger yeah what like six or something
                                         
                                        what would she have been in 1971 she was the sole survivor of a plane crash that killed 91
                                         
    
                                        people. Wow. You checked up on her? Of course you have. Yeah.
                                         
                                        She did. She ate the rest of them. She did. She ate them to survive. They just found her last year.
                                         
                                        Born on this day now dead, Henry Cavendish discovered hydrogen. When do you think he lived?
                                         
                                        Oh, wow. Man, I don't know much about like when we got the periodic tables.
                                         
                                        I don't know much about chemistry.
                                         
                                        I mean, I'm just going to say, I'm going to say 1800.
                                         
                                        That's pretty good.
                                         
                                        1731 to 1810.
                                         
    
                                        And born on the stay now dead.
                                         
                                        Chris Penn.
                                         
                                        Damn.
                                         
                                        Dead and the stay still dead.
                                         
                                        Christopher Reeves.
                                         
                                        The only Superman.
                                         
                                        And Ken Kamenitti.
                                         
                                        He really did.
                                         
    
                                        Ranger Great.
                                         
                                        Ranger Great.
                                         
                                        Did he?
                                         
                                        How long after here did he?
                                         
                                        Die.
                                         
                                        It wasn't long, was it?
                                         
                                        Must not.
                                         
                                        He played here in 01, right?
                                         
    
                                        I think he played here in 01.
                                         
                                        Died of a drug overdose?
                                         
                                        He was mixed up in a lot of stuff.
                                         
                                        Like, drug-wise.
                                         
                                        Maybe once you start the needle for steroids.
                                         
                                        Killer bees.
                                         
                                        Didn't they have a killer bees?
                                         
                                        The Rangers?
                                         
    
                                        Bagwell.
                                         
                                        The Astras, Bagwell-Bel-Bigio.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And Camminiti.
                                         
                                        He was on the Padres with the reference.
                                         
                                        On this day in history.
                                         
                                        He was on the Padres when what?
                                         
                                        When they went to the World Series in 98.
                                         
    
                                        Steroids.
                                         
                                        Boys, have a good weekend.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Punch out, punch in.
                                         
                                        All right, that leads us to closing remarks.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Well, thank you guys for coming.
                                         
                                        And you guys invited Jared here, right?
                                         
    
                                        Yes, Jared.
                                         
                                        So we got a free Jared, a boss, Jared.
                                         
                                        We all went to high school with Jared.
                                         
                                        My older brother, Henry, was a senior when Jared was a freshman,
                                         
                                        and then I'm one year older.
                                         
                                        So Jared was actually my JV quarterback through me a bunch of touchdown passes.
                                         
                                        So he played fullback, and I would throw it to him in the flat
                                         
                                        because I couldn't see much beyond that.
                                         
    
                                        And also I wanted him to like me, so I figured if I had thrown the ball, it would be nice.
                                         
                                        We had one play, the F-22 flat, which was just me basically heading to block for a moment,
                                         
                                        then chipping out and catching the ball on the flat,
                                         
                                        and turning upfield we had a bunch of fruitful very very at the time and then I guess senior year you
                                         
                                        started or junior year you were playing wide receiver more so but yeah so we've done Jared for a long time
                                         
                                        we moved here in I think 99 Dan when you guys came to the ticket and that's when we all started
                                         
                                        listening to the ticket driving just to school so we've been listening to y'all since you I guess started
                                         
                                        here in Dallas when we moved to Dallas my older brother Henry started to listen to IJB back I guess
                                         
    
                                        And what year did you all start, like 2013 or 14?
                                         
                                        It's got to be 12 or 13.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Something like that, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, I was living in Atlanta, and he told me to start listening to y'all
                                         
                                        because I guess you guys, you had just started or been at the ticket for a minute.
                                         
                                        So we started listening to IJB.
                                         
                                        And then obviously when you guys made the move, we started listening to y'all over here.
                                         
    
                                        I guess the one thing that you and I were talking about earlier was when you were seeing South Texas for a month.
                                         
                                        From a different perspective.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, I got, I had talked to TC, like, briefly about some law stuff.
                                         
                                        And, like, out of the blue, he had texted me and asked me to come and get on IJB with him about a year ago.
                                         
                                        I didn't know where you were or anything like that.
                                         
                                        Found out a week later where you had been and everything.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, so I filled in into your shoes, I guess, over at T.C.'s house one day on IJB, which was really, really fun as well.
                                         
    
                                        And it was over, like, so T.
                                         
                                        But T.C.'s obsessed with this movie Blackwater, which is about, like, the DuPont company, just giving people cancer and really facing no consequences. It's like knowingly.
                                         
                                        And this guy's worked in, like, tort law.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he just had me on to talk about tort law and asbestos and paraquot and all sorts of...
                                         
                                        And the McDonald's lady's vagina, probably. You ever seen the picture? Of course, yeah. Are you get it? Come on. That's like my thing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's why I am what I am because of that picture.
                                         
                                        I don't know anything about that.
                                         
                                        The McDonald's lady who spilled the coffee on her snatch.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        It's pretty gnarly.
                                         
                                        And, again, that was like when I was growing up, my conservative family were like,
                                         
                                        this is just a little, did you, everybody's trying to get sued.
                                         
                                        And I'm like, yeah, that's probably what it was.
                                         
                                        And you see the picture, you're like, oh, my God.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        This lady was, like, boiling water?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like you was disfigured.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I love lukewarm coffee.
                                         
                                        I crack a few eggs.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Maybe don't spill it on yourself.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        but i mean the one other thing that i'd say is so you guys are always talking about the fantasy
                                         
    
                                        punishment that you're looking to figure out yes this roy's and i don't have a copy with me but i do
                                         
                                        no we have copies here we have copies okay so maybe we'll show you but you this guy right here
                                         
                                        my older brother henry whose birthday it is he was sort of the first viral sensation about 12 or 13
                                         
                                        years ago when fantasy football losing became sort of a popular thing that people were tracking
                                         
                                        This is the guy, and I'm sure you've seen it.
                                         
                                        You may not remember it, but if you were pulled up, you'd remember it in a second.
                                         
                                        The calendar of Henry Stern losing in fantasy football
                                         
                                        when he had to pose as Prince Fielder and Lady Gaga
                                         
    
                                        and just all these cultural, iconic moments.
                                         
                                        It was on ESPN.
                                         
                                        It was on all these things that he had to do as his first punishment or the punishment.
                                         
                                        So he's sort of one of the guys that has set the whole fantasy football virality punishment thing off.
                                         
                                        Did that make us do that because we also did the Prince Fielder thing?
                                         
                                        I like to think that you guys were inspired by me.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow, Costanza.
                                         
                                        This was 2015.
                                         
    
                                        Take a look at the front.
                                         
                                        The front is actually, I had to.
                                         
                                        That's another year he lost.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I got last the year before as well, and I had to have a full frontal nude portrait painted.
                                         
                                        You're laying there as a guy.
                                         
                                        It was like a person in San Francisco who painted me, and that painting was in an apartment in San Francisco for like five or six years and now resides at the Band and Dunes Golf Resort.
                                         
                                        You had to lay there naked?
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Full frontal.
                                         
                                        Well, some dude.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Just that.
                                         
                                        Not a dude, not a dude.
                                         
                                        It was a girl.
                                         
                                        It was a girl.
                                         
                                        A homeless.
                                         
    
                                        She was an artist.
                                         
                                        A homeless woman.
                                         
                                        Bound her on Bregslist.
                                         
                                        And you're a man of size.
                                         
                                        You're not like.
                                         
                                        Pryly Cyrus on the wrecking ball.
                                         
                                        Real thin.
                                         
                                        That's great.
                                         
    
                                        Kind of got a big gut hanging in.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think that's why people liked it because it wasn't, you know, I wasn't taking myself too seriously.
                                         
                                        Oh, no.
                                         
                                        It doesn't seem like you were.
                                         
                                        So the one thing I'll add to this is.
                                         
                                        The, Megan Rapino.
                                         
                                        Is that who?
                                         
    
                                        Mia Hamm?
                                         
                                        Me a hand.
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        It was a soccer player who took off.
                                         
                                        The 90s.
                                         
                                        Branden, okay, sorry.
                                         
                                        When my mother first heard about this and it was making its way on the internet,
                                         
                                        it was on like Yahoo.com's front page and everything,
                                         
    
                                        she apparently got a text or a call,
                                         
                                        walked into her closet, collapsed onto the ground and started crying
                                         
                                        because she was convinced that she had just learned
                                         
                                        that her son was doing porn.
                                         
                                        Ah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And I don't blame her.
                                         
                                        It kind of looks like he was doing porn.
                                         
                                        It does.
                                         
    
                                        And I'm going to be honest, the way he looks into it, too.
                                         
                                        The way he's looking at the camera is the reason that it gives porn.
                                         
                                        It's well done.
                                         
                                        It's tasteful.
                                         
                                        It's professionally.
                                         
                                        So, you know.
                                         
                                        This is, what's her name?
                                         
                                        That's good stuff.
                                         
    
                                        Maryland and Roe.
                                         
                                        Fantastic.
                                         
                                        It's Janet Jackson with a titty out.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        This is incredible.
                                         
                                        It's good stuff.
                                         
                                        But I figured that might serve as some sort of inspiration.
                                         
                                        You guys want a copy.
                                         
    
                                        I got plenty.
                                         
                                        I would like to hang this in the den for sure.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we need that.
                                         
                                        For sure.
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay, yeah.
                                         
                                        Awesome.
                                         
                                        Because we could take.
                                         
                                        Every time I show people with that, they're like, wait, that's your fucking brother.
                                         
    
                                        That's a great bit.
                                         
                                        I'm like, yeah, it's my brother.
                                         
                                        It's just, it's normal.
                                         
                                        What do you think of the bee beard?
                                         
                                        The bee beard.
                                         
                                        Like if we do the, you have to get the full bee beard for a payoff.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I heard you guys talking about that yesterday.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I guess that would be good.
                                         
    
                                        I'm kind of like in
                                         
                                        what was Soroy's
                                         
                                        they're just talking about
                                         
                                        like going on a vacation or something
                                         
                                        wasn't there's some sort of like
                                         
                                        it seemed like it's getting better and better for me.
                                         
                                        Let me ask you something about lawyers
                                         
                                        and these
                                         
    
                                        you're suing the asbestos people or whatever.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And this seems to be a
                                         
                                        it's great for lawyers
                                         
                                        like lawyers have great bits.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Because they can create these things,
                                         
                                        these rules, these laws, right?
                                         
    
                                        the, wasn't our lawyer telling us the only profession that has zero non-competes is being a lawyer?
                                         
                                        That sounds right, yeah.
                                         
                                        We can't.
                                         
                                        You can't have a non-compete for us.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's correct.
                                         
                                        Because it's like infringing on someone's right to hire the counsel of their choice.
                                         
                                        So like, you're not allowed to do that.
                                         
                                        But his point is that is just written, you can't, you backed into that.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You decided you weren't going to have them and then lawyers also decided they're like, you know what,
                                         
                                        if we do one of these big cases and we win $100 million,
                                         
                                        okay, good.
                                         
                                        Do we pay you like $100,000?
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        40%.
                                         
                                        Yeah, 40%.
                                         
    
                                        It's hard stuff.
                                         
                                        It's complicated work.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but I'm just saying, when you hear someone won $100 million,
                                         
                                        you're like, oh, my gosh, that person must be so happy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, but.
                                         
                                        I know someone who won a billion dollars on Tuesday in Los Angeles,
                                         
                                        and they're technically supposed to get 40% of that.
                                         
                                        $995 million.
                                         
    
                                        Or the best thing.
                                         
                                        It is the class action if you're the lawyer for that, right?
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Everybody gets a quarter.
                                         
                                        Yeah, a quarter.
                                         
                                        They won't all collect it either.
                                         
                                        And then you will get your $40 million.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        You're smiling.
                                         
                                        You like that one.
                                         
                                        You know, I think the arrangement makes sense on a lot of different levels to me.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        It's well rehearsed.
                                         
                                        But they get to make those rules.
                                         
                                        And we're like, can we negotiate that?
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        That's what all the lawyers.
                                         
                                        It's against the law.
                                         
                                        You can't.
                                         
                                        Well, who wrote?
                                         
                                        I'm just saying, they'll just be like, well, go to another law firm and see
                                         
                                        what they'll take.
                                         
                                        Then all the law firms are like, yeah, we're all at 40%.
                                         
                                        Like, can't change.
                                         
    
                                        Can't do it.
                                         
                                        Sounds like they stick together to me.
                                         
                                        Collusion.
                                         
                                        That feels illegal.
                                         
                                        Is it collusion illegal?
                                         
                                        Or it is when something's been collectively bargaining?
                                         
                                        Perhaps.
                                         
                                        Who knows?
                                         
    
                                        With baseball?
                                         
                                        We don't, us lawyers typically don't know the law.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's act ignorant, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We may have been here for the end of sports mayor, guys.
                                         
                                        Do you know today's his birthday?
                                         
                                        Today's sports mayor's birthday?
                                         
    
                                        It would be extremely.
                                         
                                        I came to step down on his birthday.
                                         
                                        The dungza.
                                         
