The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 10-3-24: Davante Adams Cowboys rumor, MLB playoffs, and Bruce Arians jokes

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Hear every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneIt wouldn't be the first time the Dallas Cowboys have traded for a Raiders wide receiver during the season. We quiz Danny on what teams are in the MLB playoffs and why it's the Detroit Tigers. We finally found the one person who won't rebuild after a hurricane and we introduce the Bruce Arians line of comedy.  (00:00) - Open (17:53) - Sports: Davante Adams Cowboys rumor, MLB playoffs (01:04:40) - Viewer Mail (01:15:57) - Today in Twitter: Not strong after Hurricane (01:25:04) - News: Tony Buzbee on P Diddy allegations (01:50:09) - Today in History: Bruce Arians jokes ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hello, I'm professional broadcaster Dan McDowell, letting you know that you are about to hear one of our free podcasts. But, if you'd like to subscribe at dumbzone.com, you'll get four shows per week, plus the weekend wrap-up and any bonus sodes like our Business Wednesday interviews. So, if you forgot how to use the 15-second rewind, that's dumbzone.com to subscribe. Now, on to today's program. Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. Well, today we're talking about Baker Mayfield, what to do with Baker. Take care. How did OJ see the run sheet?

Oh, no. Are you okay? Take two. You know, we're recording live to tape. I could redo that. But you won't. Time is money, my friend. Mm-hmm. Right? Don't they say that?

That's what smart people say. Yesterday was Business Wednesday, so we're kind of coming off a day of spending time and losing money. Today is Thursday, October 3rd, our 243rd program. Jake is not here yet again. The plan is back Monday, but I guess that's the plan. And if it doesn't come to fruition, then we'll address it at that point. But I feel like it will. dress it at that point, but I feel like it will. In Jake's place today,

we have a man that if you've been listening, you're probably pretty familiar with him so far. This song helps, though. Helps who? Puts it into perspective. It does. Too loud? Danny Bayless Danny Bayless

Danny Bayless Danny Bayless Danny Bayless Danny Bayless Danny Bayless Danny Bayless My pink up city There he is. Hey Danny. Hi Dan. Hi Blake.

Welcome to Waxahachie. It's good to be here. We are on a... It's a sit-in, but we're not... We're sitting in someone else's place. Sitting out. Yeah, like Brandon Ayuk. Was he doing that?

No, he was doing Hold In. Yeah. As was Jamar Chase. anyway we're sitting out at uh the home where we've been here before we've been to woxahatchee we're quite familiar with this uh if you're thinking about our woxahatchee playlist this is not meat church. Nope. No. This is I don't know how to pronounce your last name of all the times I've looked at it. Vendris? Vendris?

Probably Vendreas. Vendreas? Amadeus? I know your name is Tom. That's real easy. Tom Vendris. Vendris. And Jennifer Vendris. Tom and Jennifer. The power couple of Waxahachie. When you just throw those two names around.

If they're not, they're one of many. If they're not the, they are one of many. Or a few. What do you mean? There may be multiple power couples in Waxahachie, but they're definitely at the top. Yeah, they're in there. Yeah.

They're in the mix. They're shakers. Movers and shakers. They get things done. We've been up to Tom's before. He's got a sweet place. He's got a sweet story. He's a man we look to for inspiration as we are treading water.

We're paddling as hard as we can, but we got like an anvil tied to our ankle. It's just, we're trying. But Tom is a guy who left a big time job many, many years ago and went out and did stuff on his own. Now he's got this great, how many acres? Ten acre, can I call it an estate? You should. It's a land. it's a ranch a ranch 10 acre ranch he's got is it emus or llamas or emu okay i've seen roosters emu i've seen swine

okay that's a pig uh-huh i've seen equine i I've seen canine, multiple canine. Yeah, he seems to be a big dog guy. Yeah. A big, big dog guy. They're not tiny dogs. Chickens, wild chickens. They don't have a cool name? What's that?

Equine, swine, canine, and chickens. Poultry, I guess. Cock. I didn't see any cocks out there. Yeah, there's a couple of cocks. Although Tom did try to push me into the bathroom a minute ago. Oh, no. Yeah.

It slipped right by. Yeah, so it was close. Jennifer appears to be in pretty good shape. Jennifer is doing great. She's into weightlifting and stuff. She does all the exercises. Yeah, she does. She recently did a show.

She's not into my... My wife has like the two, I don't know, they're like three pound weights. And so she had to do some kind of DEI training this weekend. And so she'll sit there watching it for hours with the little three pound weights going up and down. And then she said she was really sore on Monday. and so she'll sit there watching it for hours with the little three-pound weights going up and down. And then she said she was really sore on Monday. From the weights or from you? From the weights, for sure.

That's Jennifer in a bodybuilding competition. My gosh, look at that. I feel like that's wrong for me to look at this. You're showing me your wife in a skimpy bikini. The bikini is not skimpy for sexual reasons. It's to show off as much of the physique as possible

without being, you know, R-rated. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, pretty much. Well, the guys are the same way.

I mean, they basically have on some dental floss and a thimble. Yeah, but I'm definitely looking at their wiener. Yeah, dude. Who isn't? Me too. So we have a lot on today's program.

We have some Cowboys today. We're actually going to look at the baseball playoffs. And OJ kind of teased us on a little topic. I don't know if you remember the Open. It was so many minutes ago. It was six minutes ago yeah but i did want to give you a resolution to a story and uh the resolution uh the story is that i told you guys about a situation where i found a credit card lying outside on my curb, but it was the day that we had a few 690 sit-ins on Friday.

So Travis Gafford was our Friday sit-in, but if you remember, Travis was with like three guys named Andrew. Two Drews, an Andrew, and a Brad. Brad. So that was not the name on this credit card. The name was John something. And then I called the credit card company. They told me, I just said, hey, can you just get a hold of John something

and tell him I have the credit card? I don't want him to have to deal with the beating of canceling the card, re-upping whatever subscription, you know, I've done that before. Changing all of your auto pay utilities. It's just a big, it can be a big beating. And so she said, well, what's the name and give me the credit card number. And I said, well, again, can you do this but don't cancel the card? I just want you to contact the guy.

She goes, if you report this card, it will be automatically canceled. And I said, well, you know what? Then I don't want to do that. She's like got all up in my grill like, hey, you don't want to report this stolen. And I'm like, hey, how about this? I just said no. And then whatever. It was a weird interaction.

She hated your guts. But she told you to have a nice day. She did. I don't think she meant it. But I also detected some kind of a, like, well, we should just get a room. Like there was some kind of a level of she hated me, but because, you know, my magnetism was overpowering her. Anyway.

There was something special and unique about Dan as opposed to the other 350 calls. It was pretty obvious. If you were on that phone call, you would have felt it too. I'm going to take you at your word, fella. All the other guys. The electrons are flowing through my body, through my phone. It was your moccasins.

Everyone else just listens to her. She wants someone to fight with, and that's Dan. Right. Anyway. That's her kink. Yeah, apparently. So I actually was talking to Travis, who is 690, the sit-in guy, and it was about another matter, and he goes,

oh, yeah, hey, I listened to your podcast yesterday. Yeah, one of the guys did lose a credit card. And they're like, I'm like, oh, really? And he goes, yeah, Brad lost a credit card, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I go, oh, okay, that's not the name on the credit card. And he goes, oh,

his name, his actual first name is John. Damn it. And he goes, his name is John Bradley. And I go, ah, man, that's not the name on the credit card. Sorry. And then some time went by, and we were talking about something else, and I brought it back to that, and I'm like, oh, the name on the credit card was whatever it is, like Smith.

He goes, no, his name's John Bradley Smith. Do you think I was saying his last name was John? So the point is I found the credit card owner. He did call. He only gave it a freeze. He did not cancel it. Oh, good. Because he didn't want to have to deal with yeah

do all the stuff nice so now um i felt comfortable because he was a listener and a fan that i thought i could make a few 900 phone calls on this credit card so my wife wouldn't see it on the phone on the bill you know and so i did that last night good um you know kind of worked out some of my stress problems that i was having everything feels great today john whatever his name is gonna get his credit card and that uh that bitch in customer service good lord yeah did you hit your uh your steps quota for the day after calling those 900 numbers? Yeah, no, I wear my watch on my other hand, on my cheating hand, my girlfriend, whatever, whatever they call it. People pay to listen to this.

It's amazing. I love it. So we've got a few spots to read today. And, uh, you know, we've got a bunch of paywall shows. Yesterday was a paywall show. Tom was saying he enjoyed it.

The first ever recording of Dan and Jake when they didn't work in terrestrial radio. But it was before we did something called the dumb zone. So we just kind of recorded a one hour kind of like an, just an audio diary, like check in, Hey, where are we right now? And that is available behind the paywall.

That had never been released. No. Prior. I don't even know if Blake's ever listened to the paywall. That had never been released? No. Prior? I don't even know if Blake's ever listened to the whole thing. No. But it was only me, Jake. Jake never went back and listened to it. He just told me to do it.

And then a couple of lawyers, because we were thinking about releasing it. Hey, is there anything in here that we wouldn't want released? And the lawyers, unanimously, the two lawyers that uh this is going to be okay of course the lawyers uh you know got us into that pickle and no but uh so because this is not a behind the paywall epi um tomorrow's will be, and Yesterday's Was. So if you want to go subscribe and take a listen to that,

you certainly can. But, because we have like, I don't know, six or seven spots today, what I wanted to do was something special. I don't think Danny's ever heard this before.

But I wanted to do an exclusive. The two-minute crossover spot. The two-minute crossover spot where we can actually do two sponsors in one two-minute bump. Danny, we innovate here. Uh-huh. And the beneficiary

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100%. Yeah. That was the audio evidence of dialing all threes in a row. Not a lot of people would go above and beyond like that. And the bottom line is, for the Frankels, they can get you the money that you deserve. Right. Yes. The insurance company is trying to hold that money back. Frankel & Frankel can get you that money that money personal injury attorneys so how does this tie in

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I don't have any money, but the 401k that I had for years at the ticket is just sitting there. I don't know what to do with it. I don't know how to access it, when I should access it. Sean can help? Can and will. That's awesome. Dallasfinancialplanner.net or check out the show notes. We'll put that stuff in there. One thing I noticed, it says that he's not super old, so he'll be around when your money matures. I mean, that'd be terrible. You get a financial advisor that's like 75.

Croaks. Hey, just dead in 10 years and you're like where's my money right sean's gonna be around yeah yes that's his main copy point i'm not super old uh he's medium but he's not super young because then you'd be like do i want to trust this kid this 17 year old like my uh yeah like if blake showed up and wanted to organize your money. I got an idea. I've already. It's crypto. It's going places. Right.

Yeah. You have Doge. Doge for days. Don't trust me. Trust Sean. Okay. Okay. Oh, remember the OJ opened? Yes.

Oh, yeah. I like that. The OJ opened. Well, let's just remind people if you just tuned in. Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. Well, today we're talking about Baker Mayfield, what to do with Baker. Take care. Okay, so we got a football game tonight, boys.

I like football. Now I like football on Thursday night. Used to be against it, but I'm all for a seven-day-a-week schedule of football. Let's just go ahead and do it. Tonight at 7.15, it is Baker at the Falcons. Do we have a spread on this one? I would guess in Atlanta, what do you think, four, three and a half? No, no, no.

I'm going to guess not more than three. Give me two and a half. What do you got, Blakey? Looking, let's see. Anyway, the dilemma I have. The Falcons minus one and a half. One and a half. Okay, I thought two and a half.

Wow. It's home. Yeah, that's true. You know. The Bucs have been good. What's that? The Bucs have been good. Yeah.

The Bucs have been great. Three and one? Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. Where are we at in the Baker cycle? This is the thing you just never know Right

It's defeat inferior opponents Call out the haters What? Have a terrible game And then You know Rinse and repeat Something like that

Anyway Love the Baker Mayfield cycle. So you might think he'd be ready to have a fall off this game. However, my dilemma is fantasy football related, as many of my dilemmas are these days. I told you about it the other day. What do I do now? What do we do? Patrick Mahomes at home against New Orleans, Monday night football. Baker Mayfield.

I drafted Baker with maybe even my last draft pick. Nobody had picked Baker Mayfield. I definitely already have my kicker and defense and all that kind of stuff. Now you're doing the final rounds of your draft and you're just doing it really, really quick and just kind of taking whoever and kind of doing some bits sometimes. All right, I'll take Baker Mayfield. I love Baker. Let's take him. Certainly don't think I'd ever start him. Certainly thought maybe week six because Mahomes is on the bye.

Otherwise, you're not starting Baker Mayfield over Patrick Mahomes ever. Let me present you some evidence, though. Mahomes, extremely solid with 16, 17, 19, and 18 points in our fantasy league this year. Yeah. Extremely consistent, I should say. But those are not eye-popping. If you have a quarterback of any means.

You want to be over 20. For sure. But he's very consistent. Baker Mayfield. Can I offer you 34, 10 and 39 he's one of the top scorers in all of fantasy football this is where this is how things work with me and from what i understand from a lot of people with their fantasy football. The second they make a decision is the second everything changes. Yes. So three out of four weeks, he's over, like, three out of four, you know, Patrick Mahomes has never come close to him.

He's doubling Patrick Mahomes every week. And I feel like for the show and for the good of Baker I need to do this so we can follow up on this tomorrow start him? tonight but then he won't play well

that's the thing but if he does I just sat and talked about this and Mahomes turns in 17 again on Monday well you can do both can you

can you bench Patrick Mahomes for Baker Mayfield? Would this be the, you know, is this the point of my season, the turning point? Well, what do you care about more, your fantasy team or seeing Baker Mayfield succeed? Because if you keep him on your bench, Baker will keep doing well. But if you start him, then he'll decline.

That's just how this goes. I'm hitting set lineup. I care more about my fantasy team. Baker has been moved to the starting lineup. I will take the Falcons. Who would have thought this could happen? That somebody would ever bench Patrick Mahomes for Baker Mayfield. But it's been done.

We're setting trends. Elsewhere in football, I don't know if you guys have anything else on Baker Mayfield and the cycle. But I'm pretty interested in this whole Devontae Adams to the Cowboys talk. There's talk? You know, looking at the... You're familiar with the Devontae Adams situation?

Yeah, of course. I saw yesterday that there was interest in talk, but didn't that get all debunked later in the afternoon? Or is it back on? What's the deal? Well, the situation itself is he may or may not be faking a hamstring injury because he doesn't want to play with the Raiders anymore. Right.

And, I mean, this stems back to a couple years ago when he decided to go to Vegas to play with his really good buddy, Derek Carr. Kind of like when I faked having my kid when I didn't want to drive to Springtown a couple of weeks ago. Right. Yeah, similar. So he gets to play with Derek Carr for a year. And then they don't resign Carr.

And then now Adams is stuck with Jimmy G, who was horrible. So much so that on the TV show Quarterback, he's visibly upset. Does not want to be there. And then they don't bring in a good quarterback. They bring in a guard. Yeah, wasn't he like bashing Jimmy G when he goes back to the sideline? Yeah.

To some of the players, yeah. Yes. Just visibly upset. And understandably so. And the show receiver, like, I'm very surprised they put that out there. Because those are kind of puff pieces, you know?

Yeah. But, yeah. But then this year he's saddled with Gardner Minshew, and they have no chance of winning. Adams is, what, early 30s, so he's got maybe one more contract to go. And he's just had enough. So he wants out. Yeah. So like, and they say the top destinations for him are,

or his wish list would be the Jets and New Orleans. Because of Aaron Rodgers and because of Derek Carr. Right. Because he played with Aaron Rodgers, had great success. Because he's got a little have a butt buddy for his quarterback. Derek Carr is his little butt buddy. He doesn't want to play with anyone else. Who was his college quarterback, right?

Yes, at Fresno State. And then that's kind of why he said he wanted to go to Vegas before. So that was interesting. So the Cowboys not one of those two teams? No, but, you know, he's going to listen to – first of all, they could just trade him somewhere. Now, yes, if they just trade him somewhere, does he all of a sudden have that hamstring still if it's not his team?

But he was on a podcast like in the summer, and they were throwing around hypotheticals to him as far as, you know, if he did leave, where he might go. And where some players, like in the past, you would never even consider talking about that. He's like oh yeah well i might leave and uh sure well i would they were kind of saying would you rather go to a place where you can get a lot of targets and a lot of yards

or would you rather go somewhere that was kind of close to super Bowl contending and all that. And he did say, I've got my targets, I've gotten my yards. I'd like to play some meaningful football deep into a season. Which would have you think that the Cowboys might be an attractive destination. Plus, why this year? Just because they were the playoff team last year? And why this year? Well, so hopefully he hasn't watched any of their games. Hopefully he doesn't want to win a playoff game.

Well, I was thinking, is this similar at all to when the Cowboys got Amari Cooper? So I went back and just kind of was refreshing my memory on that this morning. So the Cowboys acquired Amari Cooper in 2018. But let's start with 2016. The Cowboys were 13-3. That was Dak and Zeke's rookie year. Romo's last year. Oddly enough, for being 13-3, a year of turmoil,

just because Romo in the middle of the season kind of, you know, he got hurt preseason. He... The night of fight night. Was that a fight night night? Yeah, Jake had just whipped Mike and Duncanville's ass, and then... Oh, that was the same night Jake won? And then Cam Chancellor ended Romo's career.

Okay, is that the... I hope that's just a cramp or something, Dave Campo audio. Something like that. Anyway, maybe I'm mixing that up with some Romo audio. Yeah, that's when Dak broke his leg. That's right. You got to hope it's just a cramp. Anyway.

Oh, Campo said, no, that's not good right there. Yeah. I think. So that's where Romo gets hurt. Kellen Moore ends up getting hurt. Dak was deep in the depth chart, but he was, what, a fourth-round pick? Fourth-round compensatory pick. So he's at the very end of the round anyway.

They tried picking other quarterbacks. Well, they kind of lucked into it, and all of a sudden Dak is good. They're 13-3. Well, 2017, then they lost in the first round. Very familiarly. Familiarly. Who'd they lose to that year? Packers.

Okay. Aaron Rodgers and the ridiculous sideline catch by Jared Cook. So that wasn't the Dez catch game? Dez catch was with Romo. That was Romo of 2014. DeMarco Murray fumbled in the open field. Okay, because Dez was still on that team in 2016, and he was still on the team in 2017.

As the Cowboys fell to 9-7, they missed the playoffs altogether. That's why I should have just picked them to miss the playoffs this year. I didn't because of the extra team. There's an extra team in the playoffs nowadays, and I'm like, who's that seventh team? Did I not believe in Baker once again? As in nobody believes in Baker? Nope.

So they missed the playoffs, and that year there was a significant drop-off for Dak's stats, so much so that we're kind of wondering, all right, was it just a stacked team last year? Was everything just kind of going well? Dak, is he really that good? In fact, I remember that year it was, we want to give Dak more responsibility in the offense.

He's going to have more of the ability to change the play at the line of scrimmage, this, that, and the other. And they actually, it wasn't really warranted. It wasn't like he's just proven he needs this. He needs to break out of this shell. They kind of moved him along too fast. We were saying it at the time, and in retrospect, it kind of makes sense too.

So now they missed the playoffs. Dez, I think, had some injuries that year as well, and at the end of the year, they cut Dez. That's when they got rid of Dez. Tragic. And didn't he vow to get back at them? He would sign with an NFC East team, and he didn't like Snake Lee and Garrett and Witten.

He hated all the white guys that liked each other. So now it's 2018. Dez is gone, and you head into the season with Michael Gallup and Cole Beasley. And Alan Hearns? Wasn't that their replacement? Yeah, but I mean, you thought Gallup and Beasley are the top two receivers for sure.

Was Alan Hearns on that team? That was the signing? I thought he was kind of their answer. Was Terrence Williams involved in this too? Was he still around? I think he only, he played very played very little day you guys are talking about something that was what five years ago three six was it six it it feels like it could have been 17 years ago just the the season if you recall

is not going well it wasn't going well when they fell to uh two and three with an overtime loss against houston now houston would finish the year i think think, 11-5, but they started out 0-3 that year. And so now they're 1-3, and they come to Dallas and defeat the Cowboys in overtime. So you lose to a 1-3 Houston team. Things are looking really bad. Pets' heads are falling off. Calling for firings left and right.

Then they win their next game. Then they lose to Washington, Pat. And they fall to three and four. They lose to Washington in overtime. On October 21st. On October 21st, they're heading into the bye week. And they lose to Washington. They're three and four.

What are we going to do? The offense is dead. So on the 22nd, the next day, they trade for Amari Cooper. They trade a first-round draft pick the following year to the Raiders, if there's any parallels here. Yeah. For Amari Cooper, who is a proven 1,000-yard-a-year wide receiver. Still on his rookie deal. Yes, you knew you were going to have to pay him soon.

Yeah. And then in nine games for the Cowboys, Amari is Dak's number one target. Nine games, 725 yards, six touchdowns, 53 receptions. Awesome. And it was the thing that turned their season around. Yeah, they finished pretty strong, right? They went to the playoffs. They finished pretty strong.

I didn't look into that. Probably a long playoff run which culminated in in January or maybe even February maybe but no I obviously they haven't done anything

in the playoffs but I just thought there's a lot of parallels now the non-parallel is Amari Cooper was still on his first contract so he's kind of mid-twenties and you know you're going to have to pay him. But, and you also had to give up a first-round draft pick.

The thought is that... What receiver are you going to draft the next year that's going to be better than Amari Cooper? Right. For sure. The only discrepancy would be... He's already proven. The amount that you would have to pay them.

Right. And they chose not to. Well, no, they did. They actually signed Amari Cooper to a long-term deal. A few years into that, they got out of it. If you want to litigate the Amari Cooper trade to the Browns, it was a horrible, horrible trade because it was kind of the year that everybody was starting to pay wide receivers

and get big trade hauls for wide receivers. Was that when Cheetah was traded? I can't remember. There was a couple wide receivers traded that offseason after Amari Cooper. The Cowboys are like, we'll send him to Cleveland for, what is it, the fifth? Yeah. And then other wide receivers were getting, you know, two seconds, you know, a first. The big one was Hollywood Brown, I think, got a first.

Okay. And you'd say Amari Cooper's way better than Marquise Brown. Oh, what's his name that went to Philly? Might have been that year as well. A.J. Brown. Yeah. All the Browns got traded. Anyway, that's not to focus here, though.

But now to look at what are the – I mean, it sounds like there's a lot of parallels there. But what's the major risk if they try to make a play for Devontae? Well, so the thing is, they say maybe it would only take a second-round draft pick. He is older. Over 30? 33?

Is he that old? I think advanced stats would show you that he's diminishing. So Amari Cooper was kind of in his prime and not looking to get worse at any time soon, whereas Devontae Adams, you would say, is not the Devontae Adams of five years ago, and will not be, but right now we're just looking at Devontae Adams versus, I mean, if you're to say Devontae Adams versus what you could have in the second round next year, you never know. Second rounders can really be something.

But it's Devontae Adams versus what the Cowboys have right now behind CeeDee Lamb. And you would have to think Devontae Adams is still way better. What are you looking at? His money. It's crazy, right? What has he got? $25 million cap hit this year, and then for the next two years it's $44 and $45.

Good gravy. Whoa. I don't know how they do it. We couldn't afford Derrick Henry. Can't afford Derrick Henry at two for 12. I don't know if you can get this guy. I just feel like the Eagles did that A.J. Brown thing and paid him, and then they paid Jalen Hurd. I feel like, and then they go out and get Saquon Barkley.

I feel like they can figure this out if they wanted to figure this out. Now, do you want to figure this out? The question to me isn't can you afford it, because you can always afford it. The question is does this actually make your team better now and in the long run? And it's intriguing. How long is Cooks out?

He's got a weird deal. He's out a few weeks. Did you hear about that? What's that deal? I did hear he's injured. He had to have surgery after the Giants game, I guess, to clean something up. Then he got an infection in his knee. So he's out for a couple weeks.

Now, I'm not as good at this as Jake is, but the Cowboys do have about $24 million in cap space. Like now? Right now. His cap number's 25. I don't know if it's that simple to move a couple things around, but it just doesn't seem likely likely given that they really fought CD on what his number was.

I don't know. I see the similarities, and obviously it would be fun, but I don't know how they do it. Is he 33? 31. 31, okay. Well, it goes back to, you know, in every article that you read about this,

it's like Jerry Jones said the Cowboys were all in this year. And then when you talk to Jerry in the offseason, he said all in didn't necessarily mean just the offseason. It means during the season as well. Well, here we are. You're at a point where your team isn't as good as you thought it was. This is just like 2018. isn't as good as you thought it was.

This is just like 2018. And the offense really does need a significant boost at the wide receiver position. Especially now. You're still early in the season. Plenty of time to turn things around. I don't know. I would, I'd be all for them doing it

if they don't have to give up a first and figure out, I don't, I'm not worried about his money. Figure it out. Would you rather have him or Tyreek Hill? Because he's also

probably being shopped. Really? Yeah. What are they going to do? They're just going to clean house in Miami? This year's shot, he's making a ton. You think this year's shot because Tua? Yeah.

Like you don't think Tua's coming back at all? Tua may never play again. Man. And their backup quarterback, Skylar Thompson, he got hurt. They're on Tyler Huntley, their third guy. So if you can... Does Mike McDaniel get fired? I don't think so.

I mean, what... It's Tua. His quarterback got hurt. I know, but he is the guy who went to management saying, we got to have him. He's the real deal. Well, it's not because Tua's not good. It's because Tua can't fall correctly.

Yeah. But on the, have you seen this? Tyreek Hill, the best odds to lane Tyreek Hill are the Chiefs. Wow. Three to one odds. That's given that he's traded. His situation is not as dire as Devontae Adams, but. What do you mean?

Devontae will not play for the Raiders, and it's not injury-related. It's because he doesn't want to be there. Yeah. Tyreek Hill is not making a fuss. It just seems like they're paying this guy a ton of money who's aging and could get their best value if they did want to move on from him right now.

That'd be interesting, just because the Chiefs, the reason they traded him was they just didn did want to move on from him right now. That'd be interesting just because the Chiefs, the reason they traded him was they just didn't want to pay him. Yeah, but if you know this more than most, if Mahomes is kind of just inching along and needs another weapon, you want to go for the three-peat? It's the same thing. You want to capitalize right now? Get your guy.

And Mahomes can figure it out as far as game to game and winning the game. But, yeah, I heard someone talking about the, you know, lack of touchdown passes and lack of scoring and the fact that you know how the underdogs, you obviously know this. How's the, because like the knockout leagues are all, how's the dumb zone knockout league? What do we start with?

How many have we got now? We were over, right at 700-ish, and I think we're down to like 30. Damn. By week five. Well, after week two, it was down to 80. So one of the reasons these underdogs are winning outright, obviously, and just kind of covering the spread, if you look at – I think going into last weekend, underdogs were 14-2.

Like if you were – the spread was 5.5 or more. You were 14-2 covering the spread this year. I don't know how this past weekend worked out. I know San Francisco won big, Detroit won big, so maybe that's different. But just talking about the fact that because teams are not airing it out and they're kind of dinking and dunking it, and that's kind of slowing the game down,

and that's reducing the scoring, and it's just kind of keeping the underdogs hanging around in these games longer. And if you're hanging around in a game, sometimes you can end up winning the game, hence the knockout picks getting knocked off. But all the time, you're at least hanging around within the point spread, hence the 14-2 record going into last week for the underdogs. And a couple teams have been really surprising.

The Commanders are good. The Vikings are good. And those are teams that you were probably thinking we're going to lose early on. I'm kind of excited about Washington being good. I hope they stay good because the Cowboys don't play them for a long time. It's Cliff. Cliff and Daniels are a good match together.

Yeah, and Cliff. I don't know if history would treat Cliff Kingsbury kindly as far as, at least I'm thinking when he was like head coach of Arizona, it feels like once the league sees what he's doing and then makes adjustments, he doesn't readjust well. Like he's had a lot of good first halves of seasons. Yeah. And then things go awry. For sure.

But maybe if he is just coordinator yeah maybe if he can just focus on being the oc i don't know man so i would like to see both of the big receivers moved just because i like drama yeah i like the last few years of the NFL, man. I like the player movement. You might say the NBA is like too much? No. You like it? I love it. You like it year to year? Yeah. It's like fantasy teams. Spice it up. Yeah, let's see

Adams on the Jets and let's see Tyreek Hill go back to the Chiefs. That'd be cool. What if we saw one of them come to the Cowboys? Wouldn't that be cool? Of course, but it's not going to happen. Why? We've got to remain grounded. You know that, Electron Man.

Yeah, I should take off. Electron Man. I should take off my shoes. You could get some good electrons out here. Yeah, Waxahachie is full of them. Go walk in the emu poop. They're packed with electrons. Not to belabor the trading deadline.

It is November 5th, I believe. We're not. Yeah, we got some time. Okay, so they've got a long time to make decisions unless these guys start landing on other teams. But you talk about

the need for a receiver. To me, that's probably third or fourth on their list of concerns right now yeah he probably needs you need it you need a pass rusher you might need a stop gap linebacker i don't know what they're thinking at running back i don't know what would even be available but if activating cook isn't the answer and they don't see that happening anytime soon and they're content to go with that trio of confusion i mean that's that probably isn't going to change

but the trio of confusion yeah that's their doomsday defense you know you got to have a label yeah the trio of confusion why are any of these guys here? I don't know. I just feel like if you are going to try – especially when you went on about Devontae's – what he's going to be due over the next couple of years, you're going to have like a $90 million receiver core of two men if he remained here.

That's a lot of freaking money. I don't see how they do it. I don't either. As we're talking this out, we played the audio of Brady in week one saying, Cowboys will not get into high-scoring affairs because they can't keep up. Well, that was under the assumption that they were going to have a pretty rock-solid defense, and they don't. No, no.

The assumption was that they... Well, you're saying going into the season, that was the assumption. Correct. But I mean, when Brady was saying that... This was last week. Brady was saying that based on the fact that they don't have a rock solid defense and they don't. And so they're going to need to be able to get back into games.

Right, exactly. Well, trading for a receiver would help that. You got a lot of holes on defense to solidify. You probably can't fix all of those, but if you could start scoring some more points. Yeah, but if you're no threat to run the ball, Dak's not a gunslinger, is he? Yeah, he led the league in yardage last year.

He can. Yeah. He's got the toys. Yeah, but I feel like he had at least a little bit of an offense or a ground threat. A little bit. Back then. And maybe a little bit better pass protection too.

I don't think he had two rookies trying to protect his, you know, his blind side last year. You know what? I changed my mind. Let's do it. Let's do it, man. Let's go for it. You want wild-ass football, don't you?

Let's get some scoring up, man. Let's go. Look, the team that you have right now is not good. Right. You're all in. You want to do something about it? Do it. You can't sit on your hands.

Light a fire under him. Just having somebody that can be a threat when 88 is most certainly going to be doubled or at least have somebody watching over the top, it gives them options, but you still got to be able to block guys coming at you and at least make a dent with a running game or use the running game differently.

Well, I think you're going to have to. Stop running these guys to the one or the three hole every time. I think you're going to have to reverse your thinking where most of the time you want to run on first down, establish the run, and then set up play action. I think it's got to be the other way. You're going to have to throw into surprising teams with the run, which you can do.

Let me throw another name at you, Dan, that I've seen floated around. Amari Cooper. Boy, his – He's cheap now. There's some familiarity. In comparison. I've some familiarity. In comparison. I've seen that out there too. You're going to have to taste your own medicine a little bit

and trading back for the guy you traded away, and you're probably going to have to give up more than they did to get him back. But, again, you can't afford Devontae Adams. You certainly can't afford Tyree Kill, but Amari Cooper would be an upgrade. Yeah, you are going to have to pay more because the Browns aren't going to give him up for a fifth.

No. They were talking Brandon Ayuk. And nobody should. Nobody should have. Right. What a terrible trade that was. Could you imagine them trading him for a fifth and then having to give up like a second to

get him back? I mean, if you're comparing different things, you know, the whole Devontae Adams for a second rounder or Trey Lance for a fourth rounder. Man, it just further illuminates that this team is pretty damn good on draft day. But when it comes to personnel, trades, contracts, decisions that are beyond the draft, they are so bad. It's kind of incredible how good they've been. Well, you know why.

McClay drafts. I know. Jerry negotiates. I know. And he's not good at it. Steven isn't good at it. Again, here we are. Back at ground zero.

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About the playoffs? Yeah. I haven't watched one second of the playoffs. The only thing that I know is the Astros were eliminated. Other than that, I cannot tell you anything about who's in it, who won, where it stands. Is it the wild card round? Is it the play-in game?

I know nothing. That's why i'm here to listen and learn on the dumb zone well you're probably not going to learn too much but you've certainly seen the note that this is going to be the first alcs without the astros since obama was president if that if can even remember, harken back. This would have been year number eight, correct? If they had advanced to the ALCS. Or has it been longer?

All I had was what I told you. I think they did, was it seven in a row? Seven in a row CSs? I think that's right. So you can't name our playoff teams? No. I would like to hear them try. No, I can't.

All right. Let's roll. Oh, God. Playoff teams. Currently. The Yankees. Good. Okay.

Just whoever was headed into the playoffs. Okay, so yes, the Yankees are a number one seed. Okay. Who else is good? Let's go with Cleveland. They are the number two seed in the American League. Seattle. No, not really that close, right?

No. They fired their manager. Who was? It was Scott Service. I was trying to get to know the new managers this morning because also Florida cleaned house. So skip Shoemaker. Miami?

Miami. They call them Miami. Yeah. Let's jump over to the National League. Oh, okay. So you got two? Yeah, I'm going to stop there. You didn't even give us the Astros.

Well, we just talked about them. They made the playoffs. I was talking about who's still alive. Who knocked them out? Who are you? What's that? Who knocked them out? I have no fucking idea.

That was the biggest surprise for me. What's that? Detroit. I almost said the Targers. So close. They're somehow good. I should send you this video I saw. So I watched this

like 20 minute video on how Detroit turned their season around today. Interesting. Why did I do this? I don't know. You have more free time than I do. Well, if you might call it free time,

you might call it prepping for a sports talk show in Dallas. You know? Yeah. Talking a little baseball, bruvs. And it's very interesting because I don't know a thing about the Tigers. And I think that's kind of the way, does it feel like you know your team, I don't know a thing about the Tigers. And I think that's kind of the way –

does it feel like you know your team, but then you don't really follow the rest of baseball? Absolutely. Like that's how you are? Even you, fantasy guy? Yeah. Maybe your rivals, which would be Houston, and beyond that your division?

Like that's how I've always really been with hockey. Yeah. Is, you know, follow the Dallas Stars. Yeah. Is follow the Dallas Stars. I know things about the Dallas Stars. Even when I was doing the Dallas Stars postgame show, I just wasn't really interested in the rest of the NHL like I was my team. Anyway, so I don't know anything about the Tigers. So I watched this long video this morning.

And the story of their turnaround is incredible. know anything about the Tigers, so I watched this long video this morning. And the story of their turnaround is incredible. Two months ago, they were seven games under 500. And they had a 1% chance of making the playoffs. And not only did they make the playoffs, then they knock off the Astros in the

really weird three-game series. I hate their playoffs. Three-game series in baseball is kind of a crime. Like even basketball has eliminated this. Yeah, I don't like the three, then five, then seven. It's an 81-game season, yeah. Just have it consistent. It's just that it creates much more possibility for randomness.

For instance, the Braves, I think, were thought of as the better team than the Padres for sure, but then they had kind of a rough road to get into the playoffs, and they got into the playoffs on the last day of the season with that doubleheader against the Mets, and then all of a sudden the Padres knock off the Braves because their rotation was out of whack, and they had used most of their arms. I believe they had to start a guy who was 21 years old and had four big league innings, and they had to start him in the playoffs.

And, well, anyway, they're out. Baseball doesn't need playoffs. Well. You play 162 right I mean that's that's a they didn't used to

that's kind of a enough of a sample size no they used to just have just the winner of each league but yeah then they just kind of added what the winner

of each division once they went to was it just two divisions a piece? Yeah, for the longest time. Mm-hmm. It was just the AL East, AL West? Correct.

And then they got the, expanded a little bit, went to three, and then they keep, you know. Playing game, wild card, playing game. Right. Well, anyway, the Tigers, I'm not going to go into the depths that this 20-minute video did. But since August 1st, basically, they have the best ERA in baseball. And they did it because, oh, and what they're doing is they basically,

they're kind of going with the opener system a lot. But they'll do it even if they have a horse-eating, inning-eating starter. They will say, all right, well, I'm going to wait and not put him in until the second, or I'm not going to put him in until the third, and then I'm going to look for his five or six innings there. And I guess the thought process there is because you've heard many times, you know, the more you go through a lineup, the worse you get as a pitcher and the better the hitters get.

And so that's why a lot of times you see guys yanked, you know, in the fifth or sixth because, all right, we're getting even to the third time in the lineup now. We can't have the third time in the lineup. But I wonder if it's somewhat of a – the first time, you know, the first – you let somebody go one or two innings in the beginning, and then if they have to see another total pitcher, but now it's starter caliber pitcher, I wonder if that's even more valuable because now you're a little deeper

in the game and you're throwing off the batter right away. I remember this being a novel concept about six years ago or so. Yeah, like Tampa Bay used to do it at the time. Yeah, but I think it kind of fell out. And I haven't heard of anybody doing that. Also, again, I couldn't name any of the teams in the playoffs. You would only kind of do it out of necessity, or you might do it with your fifth starter,

but everybody else is kind of regular. Well, the Tigers do it all the time. Best ERA in baseball since August 1st. And they've had some big injuries. They've also traded away one of their top starters. But they've still had this success. Their starters averaged less than four innings pitched a game. And if you look at, like, there's a chart they showed on this video where

just the rest of Major League Baseball and their average starters, you know, are all up in the five, six innings or whatever. And then it drops way, way down. There's only one team that is doing this, and it's done with great, great success. So you have to think, much like the shift and whatever, if something has this significant of success, and for sure if all of a sudden they kind of,

anything can happen in the playoffs, if the Tigers are in the World Series, I would expect more and more teams to be trying to employ what they did. Or they'll outlaw it. Yeah. Or they'll just outlaw it. Well, that's the third step. Yeah.

First step, somebody does it. Second step is everyone does it. Third step, outlaw it. I wonder what the average inning of entry for pitcher number two is for Detroit. Like what's about the average that their starter, quote-unquote, comes into the game? I want to know more. I want to dive more into the Tigers, of all things.

Just because they've been a terrible team. Yeah. Like, one of the worst in baseball for years. But I am interested in, you know, I am interested in changes. Are you a fan of, like, the changes that Major League Baseball has made? Yeah, it's cool. I love it. I like the pitch clock.

Yep. I don't mind that at all. I don't like – You don't like spotting the guy on first? I don't like banning the shift, personally. You don't like banning the shift? Yeah. They ban the shift.

What about extra innings, just throwing a dude on first? Do you love that? Second. Second, I'm sorry. I do not because it's illogical to me. When you look at a box score. You put a guy on a base and there's no accounting for how he got there. And then ERAs.

Let's get the game over with. Yeah, I'm all for that. Yeah. I'm not going to be at a game in the 14th inning unless we're being paid overtime somehow, or unless it's like a dumb zone night at the ballpark because, of course, I stayed until the absolute last person left. Like, in the whole park.

They were kicking me out. The vending people were out before me. So, anyway, that's my trip back into baseball. So I will be, oh, so I'm somewhat interested in the playoffs. Just in this sense. So the

Padres did advance. You know, A.J. Preller. Their GM. He's been taking big swings for years. He's a wild trader, and it's cool to kind of see that where it is now. Mets and Brewers, I believe, are tied up at one game apiece. Do they do the first two at home? Do they do the WNBA bit, or do they at least travel?

Do you have any idea for these three-game series? No. Me neither. Baltimore's got to be in there, right? They got ousted. Oh, they're out? Yeah, Kansas City actually knocked them off. Yeah, did you know Kansas City's good now?

No, I did not. Yeah, they got, what's his name? Bobby Witt Jr., bro. The next one. And the Pasquatch. But, so, San Diego taking on the Dodgers. What I am interested in is the Dodgers advancing. Because I really think it would be great for baseball

if Shohei Otani is in the World Series. Yeah. No, baseball wants Yankees-Dodgers. Can you imagine Shohei and Aaron Judge in the World Series? Yeah, it'd be great. I think it would, too. I wish he was pitching. Yeah.

That would be unbelievable. But still, he did go 50-50 this year. So I would love to see it. So I am hoping for that but we're probably going to end up with what Tigers Brewers that's the problem with the randomness of the short series in baseball

yeah yeah that's I would go back to the best record in each play in the World Series that historic upper midwest battle oh my gosh I would go back to the best record in each play in the World Series. That historic Upper Midwest battle. Oh, my gosh. Brats versus bullets. Bullets and cars.

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for work I'd like to offer a solution for something he mentioned on Tuesday's Epi. It's a website that sells a device that can disable the annoying automatic stop-start feature of new cars. The feature is bad for your battery, transmission and starter and provides minimal gas mileage savings.

I have always suspected that. Yeah. I figure if you're in a city, you are wearing your starter out, right? And your fuel injection and all that. What the heck? What's the solution? Good for the planet.

Is it? The device I bought from the website below just plugs into the engine code reader under the dash. I don't know what that is. You can install that. Sure. Yeah, I feel like they're losing me now.

I just got a button that I just turn it off every time I get in. What it does is saves the current setting for the next time you start your car. It's set and forget. It took 15 seconds to install. They have different versions for different cars. That's far less time than it took Dan to watch the Detroit Tigers video. So Google that. Google, if you want, very respectfully, Harry, day two, number 1695.

I have dear Uncle Twatmail, please give a big birthday shout- out to good DF Dylan Gaysford aka Slick Dilly. I can't tell you his age because that number has been retired by all 30 Major League Baseball teams. His leaders are Pearl Jam and other bands named after Jizz.

Is that Pearl Jam? I didn't know that. No, it's named after jizz is that pearl jam i didn't know that no it's named after a preserve that eddie vetter's grandmother used to make her name was pearl oh yeah his grandma's name was pearl i believe it's my grandma's pearl really yeah yeah grandma's grandma's special pearl jam she'd make it every holiday season. Send the family home with a jar. I think that's right. I may have made it up. So we gave my daughter the middle name of Pearl to honor Grandma. Is that a good honor for a grandma?

I did the... Like, it's pretty spare, it kind of seems. I did the same for my grandpa, and he could not have cared less. I thought it was a big moment. See, my grandma was dead, i thought oh my gosh she's she would uh she would love it if she knew this they don't but you're saying no she wouldn't care at all no in telling him i thought you know this is a big big moment for me he might have a tear the first time you've ever seen grandpa cry all this yeah and I'm pretty sure he said, you should have named him after someone else.

That's a totally defeated your moment. Yeah. Leaders, Pearl Jam, Lakewood Landing, and smearing some Larry Bird's mustache fertilizer on his face and watching the love grass grow. Smear. More Soroy from Grell, Ruder, Bills,

Jimmy, and Larry. Dang. I love friend groups that all have wacky nicknames. I'm like Dan. I got a friend named Joe. Looks like the story about Pearl Jam being named after jelly is a myth.

Is it actually jizz? No, it's just one of the dudes in the band liked the name Pearl. Oh, so there's no Grandma Pearl? No, I guess not. We'll take back that whole story about Blake's grandpa, because we got that from my grandma. And Dear Uncle Gash Stash, Day One Substack Subby checking in.

It's my buddy Trevor Metcalf's Greg Maddox birthday. We both fought at Ticket Fight Night. Did you watch that documentary? Oh, the... No, I couldn't find it. Have you? Yeah, where is that? No, I just...

It was put out by the MLB Network, and I don't have... You were stoked on it. Oh, all the clips I'm really fired up about. Yeah, that's all I've seen are clips. Or MLB.com or something, right? Yeah, MLB TV On Demand. What the hell's that?

I don't know. I'll find it for you. You can watch it over the weekend. Well, why are you going to look for it now when you weren't looking for it when I was really stoked on it? Because it wasn't out yet, right? Yeah, it was out. Oh, really? Boy, you never listen to me.

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You think? I have no idea about her gash stash, but she can play the hell out of a violin. Yeah. Do we have food here tom yeah he got you guys sandwiches man my goodness you know what that means what's up fellas if you suffer from a wispy flavor saver and look like an 8th grade boy when in fact you a grown ass man and

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Because every morning, i do end up watching like i think i've mentioned this before um if i'm gonna watch something on hbo or max now i guess the app is i will fire that up but it always pops up this cnn five things so i'll watch that in the morning because it's just basic. Like, what is the big stories in the world? And it doesn't really go into them. It's like one minute each. It's a real quick, hitty thing.

But if you just want to kind of know something that's happening in the world, this is for me. Five minutes of news. I'm good. And the last story is always fluff. It's like a duck that won a prize for doing something. Whatever it is. You know?

I love the way your mind improvises. A duck that won a prize. You don't want to know about that? So, you know, like the debates going on or something happens with Trump. You want to find out if there's a shooting or a bombing or something.

If there was a major bombing. It's not just your run-of-the-mill shooting. He doesn't want to know about small bombings. Right. It's got to be a major bombing. So the last couple days, every day it's this hurricane. Helene. The devastation of the hurricane.

They say it's the worst one since Katrina. Really? Yeah, like it's the worst one since Katrina. Really? Yeah, like it's terrible. Oh. Hundreds of deaths, destruction, mayhem. You know, the videos of the water rushing down the streets. People on roofs. Yeah, like light poles falling down.

Corpses surrounding the Superdome. What did you call it today? What? Helene? Yeah. Katrina for white people. And I didn't know. So is that what people are saying?

No, I just said that. I was talking to you. I didn't really intend it to be on this podcast. But you're saying that's why people care about it. It's my last week here. No, it's just like a... No, no, no. Look, Katrina was... Six-year-old goes missing from the hood?

Right. Or a six-year-old goes missing from... From Highland Park. Different story. What's bigger in the news? I feel like this has gotten... Look, Katrina, make no mistake, it got a lot of coverage. But I feel like it didn't get quite the action as far as rescuing FEMA, all of the assistance attention that this maybe is.

And I could be completely off base, but it just feels that way. And when you look back, history kind of gives you a lot more clearer picture. It was neglect that what happened in Katrina. And a lot of it was, eh, you know,

wipe these neighborhoods off the map and then we'll have developers come in and pay pennies on the dollar for it and and build meanwhile people have been displaced from their homes that had to move away and never came back and it just seems like this is getting a little bit different a different type of coverage and treatment than maybe katrina did you think so okay so i may be wrong but what i what i often hear after these stories um and i guess the most recent one I can think of is, remember the Dallas tornadoes of a couple years ago? Ripped the roof off of one of Tyler Sagan's home, I believe. Yeah.

One of his homes, I should say. Or he was moving somewhere else. But I remember there was a mesquite neighborhood or something, and they were interviewing people on the news after that and they vowed to rebuild they they they're gonna they're gonna band together as a group and they're we're gonna overcome this and we're gonna help thy neighbor and all that kind of stuff and I just thought that's funny you know first of all it's funny because it wasn't my neighborhood and it's not me that's displaced. So that's why I'm laughing because I like those that are less fortunate than me.

It makes me feel better about myself and my own standing. So number one, hilarious in that way. But funny in the sense of that's what you always hear. You know, New York, the Twin Towers. You know what? We're New Yorkers, though. We're going to overcome this. We're going to blah, blah, blah.

You know, any place that has... Boston Strong. Any place that has a tragedy. We were laughing some months ago. We played the press conference audio. Maryland Strong. Right. If any state is not strong, Maryland is not.

Your land is named after Mary. No one thinks you're that strong. Yeah. But every place. So it's not unique when somebody is like, we will, you know, we're going to, whatever.

So this morning I'm watching my five things and they have this lady whose business and everything has been wiped out. She's been devastated. She's standing next to the rubble, you know. Will you and your business survive this one? I'm choosing to not survive this one. I will not continue here. to not survive this one.

I will not continue here. I do not think it is right, ethical, for me as a landlady to rent these spaces. I will not put myself or anyone else through this kind of trauma. So apparently this has happened before because she lives in a weather area, you know, all that kind of stuff. And it's the first time I've ever just heard someone go,

I give. Uncle, you know, all that kind of stuff. And it's the first time I've ever just heard someone go, I give. Uncle, you win. Yeah. I cannot contend with weather again. I don't want to. It sucks. We've done it already. It's a bad bit.

Why do we keep rebuilding here? The old Sam Kinison bit. Move to where the food is. Yeah, why, you know, perhaps we wouldn't have to deliver all this food out here if you didn't live in a desert. You see what this is? Look at here. It's sand. It's called sand.

Because you live in a desert. Move to where the food is. So apparently this has happened to her one too many times, and she's probably been through it before. We'll band together as a community. We will rebuild. The neighbor will help each other. And they always, like you said,

Boston Strong, Maryland Strong, they always attach a geographical pride to it. Yeah, like no one else could do this. New Yorkers, we're unlike any other. We're built a little differently. That's right. So did you fall in love? With that lady?

I often fall in love. No, I know. i don't know if you're catching the pattern but uh fell in love with the lady that yelled at him about the credit card yeah and now the lady that won't rebuild it was the rental car lady in cleveland it was a sandwich lady in flagstaff i mean just anywhere we go those were top-notch those just happen to be top-notch ladies that we keep running across. I think they're just ladies. And it's not just me, though. There's clearly a connection in each one of these. There's no proof of that.

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Here's Jay with the Dubs Zone News. Thanks, Jake, and thanks, Early Bird. Here's the news. There is a Texas lawyer by the name of Tony Busby. Now, Tony Busby, you might remember, Dan, he is the lawyer that represented 21 clients that alleged sexual misconduct against Deshaun Watson. Our show is pretty familiar with this guy. Okay. Have you ever had him on? I've had him on. Okay. That's great.

You don't need for me to go down his bio here. Well, we have lots of people listening. Okay. Yeah, I love hearing about him. I love hearing about his tank. His tank? I'm not seeing that on his Wikipedia page. But he's a pretty high-profile lawyer.

There was an article in the New York Times that described him as one of the most successful trial lawyers in Texas. that described him as one of the most successful trial lawyers in Texas. He seems to be an advocate for people that might be marginalized, picked on, abused. And his latest case, go ahead. Also advocate if it happens to be a newsworthy story. Oh, yeah. Marginalized, picked on, abused, and able to garner big headlines.

Yeah. So, in earlier... Okay, when the big P. Diddy case came out, he started representing more than 50 plaintiffs in lawsuits. That number has more than doubled because he is planning to file over a hundred lawsuits against Sean P Diddy Puff Daddy Combs and he had a press conference a day or two ago and some of the allegations in this are pretty alarming so I'm going to play a little bit of audio. I've got three clips here. This first one, he is going to disclose names,

not in this particular press conference, but at some point after his team does their due diligence, he's going to disclose some names of people that corroborated with, witnessed and did nothing, participated in these crimes that were committed allegedly by Sean P. Diddy Combs. Here's the first part. Many of you came here thinking or hoping or perhaps believing that I may start naming names. Well, that day will come, but it won't be today. The day will come when we will name names other than Sean Combs, and there's a lot of names.

It's a long list already. And of course, I already know who some of these individuals are. But because of the nature of this case, we're going to make damn sure, damn sure that we're right before we do that. But the names that we're going to name, assuming that our investigators confirm and corroborate what we've been told, are names that will shock you. I read somewhere else that he says these names will shock you and the level of fame of some of these names,

a select few, will be larger than that of Sean Puff Daddy P. Diddy Combs. Well, I'm dubious as to whether you'll ever hear any names. In fact, I'm not dubious. You whether you'll ever hear any names. In fact, I'm not dubious. You're never going to hear these names. You're just going to go ahead and say that outright. Somehow, these people get it buried, pay somebody, even Busby. He'll take the money to not name the names. That's what he's doing here.

He's an instigator. He wants to rile things up. But in the long run, it's kind of like all the women against Deshaun Watson. They took the money in the end. My mom used to have a phrase called, The guilty dog always barks first. So he says some of these names are going to be huge. And I read an article earlier where there

are some celebrities that are already coming out and having to defend themselves publicly and issued denials i believe leonardo dicaprio was one of them that had to come out and say hey don't lump me into this yeah i don't i didn't have anything to do with this stuff he goes on to kind of talk a little bit about how the cockroaches might be scrambling once the light turns on in the kitchen. These people who know who they are should just come forward now. I would imagine as we speak here, there are a myriad of people who are very nervous. You can't hide skeletons in the closet forever. I would expect there are many people out there right now who are desperately searching their memories as they delete their texts and data.

Now, although these are, in fact, individual cases, there is a common theme, an MO, if you will. Typically, the victim is lured into a situation where he or she is given a drink. Typically, that drink reported by these victims is apparently laced with something. Once that drink takes effect, the perpetrators perform all kinds of sexual acts on the victims, many times passing him or her around as other people watch and enjoy the show and then leave the victim ashamed, confused, injured, and wondering what happened. When the victim reaches out, he or she is told not to say anything. Sometimes there are threats of physical violence or financial repercussions or bodily harm.

A hundred lawsuits. Boy, Tom keeps handing me waters. You look dehydrated. I don't know, though. I mean, he's lured us in here. Oh, I get it. And then he hands you a few drinks. My seal is broken on mine.

I was absolutely lured here. Yeah, but you're going to enjoy the next part. Yeah, I might. So that scene. You guys will be the guys sitting watching. Just watching. Laughing. I don't want to get sued.

So that's kind of the MO. What was the initial, play the beginning of that cut. Yeah, yeah. The very beginning. Yeah. Here. These people who know who they are should just come forward now. I would imagine. Why?

Don't do it. Like, somebody's going to get away with it. There's Me Too people. There's some Me Too people that kind of came forward. Yeah, like, who was it? Was it the Super Size Me guy? Yeah. Who's dead. Like, right. He's dead, but he came forward like it's

spurlock i think admitting like a date rape in college something like that yeah assuming that they were gonna get him yeah but then it was like so out there that they probably wouldn't have and i don't know this could be the first part of that calling people's bluff just to get people to confess to something. Who knows? Right. But that MO, it seems to be pretty congruent. All of the victims of this seem to have the same experience. This is

one in particular that I found to be if to be true. Now all this stuff is alleged obviously. I wonder if it hurts or helps to have a Tony Busby on your side. You know? Because this is his thing. The celebrity, he kind of goes after celebrities. Has he defended celebrities? No.

He defended a wife of a Major League Baseball pitcher one time that I think was abused, so that may be about as close as it gets. He knows how to handle the circus. He knows how to handle the circus. He knows how to handle the circus. He knows how to get the publicity for you. He knows, I mean, I guess in the long run, does he get you paid? And he's probably got a long list of people that, yeah, these people all got paid.

And so that's why that's probably better than just going to some other guy and he probably might even do a uh you know i don't get paid unless you get paid here's details that he discusses about one of his clients that is probably the most uh unsettling to listen to this is true. Let's go back. Got me? Why is that not playing? The setup was awesome. Yeah, it was, man. I mean, I've got... It's showing.

The thing's plugged in. You're not getting it? Nothing is... Oh, yeah. I'm hearing a lot. Weird. Aren't you hearing it? I mean, I'm not...

I didn't do anything differently. Let's see if it's just that audio. We're doing this live right now. Many of you came... Okay, that's weird. I don't know anything differently. Let's see if it's just that audio. We're doing this live right now. Many of you came. Okay, that's weird. I don't know why that one's not playing. Doesn't he sound a little different?

Tony Busby? Now? Yeah. I don't get it. That just doesn't sound. Anyway. Then when he was on the show? Yeah, and even the Watson stuff.

Like, I don't know. That just sounds weird. I'll paraphrase. This one involved a nine-year-old boy. Oh. And it was him and another group, all of them minors, and this one particular boy was lured into Bad Boy Records. This happened allegedly at a recording studio where these boys were lured in and promised that if they did well

in their audition that they would in fact get a record deal with the record company and this boy was allegedly abused by multiple people. So it sounds like he's one that's part of this lawsuit as well. Like a coal miner?

What kind of miner? Under age. Under the age of consent. I don't even think they'd let people do coal mining if you're not old enough. Do people do coal mining anymore? Oh, yeah. Don't you always hear about it

when electric vehicles, when somebody wants to say electric vehicles suck they say oh they use more coal to do something than gas or oil or i lose i lose it loses me at that point though hopefully we bring back coal we need to do that no no no no, no. Cole's doing great. Is it? Okay. Let's move on to some other news stories.

Dandy sent this to me this morning. I thought it was pretty interesting. It comes to us from Trophy Club. The city of Trophy Club or the province or whatever it is. Trophy Club, Texas. There are parents at schools across the country that are advocating this be a great idea. And the elementary school in Trophy Club, or one of them, is the first public school in North Texas to have an active pledge in every grade. And what it is, the pledge is called wait until eighth.

And what they're talking about is pledging or getting their kids to pledge that they will not have a cell phone until they're in the eighth grade. Oh, man. What were you thinking? Man. What do you thinking? Man. What do you think? So you got a three-year-old, right? Four? Yeah, three and a half.

He'll be four in March. Two-year-old Brooks? Like, where's your mind at right now? Obviously, it's probably not even on you're getting a phone anytime soon. To be clear, smartphones. anytime soon. Now, to be clear, smartphones.

They're saying that smartwatches and flip phones have, they get the green light under this pledge. So it's basically a phone that you can carry around with you and have access to all of your social media,

video games, more importantly, the internet. So they're saying a flip phone. A browser that you can look at things. Because your parents need to be able to get a hold of you. Correct. Or even track you.

Correct. Can you do the tracking? I think you can. Yeah, yeah, of course. I'm sure you can. On what? On a flip. Can you GPS a flip?

I don't know. Or SatNav, as my friend from Liverpool calls it. Oh, yeah? SatNav. That's what they call GPS, Blake. Look how much you just learned. So, yeah, this is a pledge that they're trying to get kids to agree to, and I'm sure this is going over great with middle schoolers.

Because what are you, like, eighth grade? That's the year before you start high school. How old are you there? Because I'm trying to remember. Yeah, 13, 14. Yep. I think. A teenager without a freaking iPhone.

Was it 14? I'm trying to remember how old my kid was. It was easy for me. I was 16 when I started driving. Before then, no need. But, I mean, times are different now. And you're young enough that there were smartphones when you were 16, right started driving. Before then, no need, but times are different now. And you're young enough that there were smartphones when you were 16, right? No.

No iPhone? iPhone came out like 08, 07, 08, 09, somewhere in there. Wow. So, I mean, it was getting there, but no. What did you have, like a flip, a razor, or something like that? Boy, I had a little Nokia phone that I loved. Yeah. Did it have the raised letters and numbers?

You know what I mean? Like, I remember I resisted the iPhone for the first couple of iPhones because I didn't have Blackberry, but it was something like that. And I just thought, there's no way I can ever type on a flat screen. I need it to be kind of raised and feel it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My first iPhone was a 5S. Like, I always want to... It's been a long time. I always think I can't do whatever the new thing... Then when iPhone took away the little circle... Yeah. I'm like, I stayed with that for a few years because I'm like, I just can't...

Yeah. It won't work. How will I just swipe up? That's not going to... And then, of course, yeah, I stayed with that for a few years because I'm like, I just can't. Yeah. It won't work. How will I just swipe up? That's not going to. And then, of course, yeah, I needed the button. And now I'm resisting the larger iPhone. You'll get there. I still miss the button, dude.

I'd rather have the fingerprint than the face recognition any time. Boy, you do that? The face? Yeah. Yes. Because, dude. What do you do? Type in a number?

No. You just don't do any passcode? You want it on my phone? You can get in Yeah. Yes. Because, dude... What do you do? Type in a number? No. You just don't do any passcode? You want it on my phone? You can get in it. Okay. Yours is just unlocked all the time? I'm sure when I first started this, I could tell you how much time you waste

by putting in the same passcode multiple times a day, every day. Yeah. And how often do you leave... You're never without your phone. It's not like you're leaving it lying somewhere. But if you do, my thing is I have my bank

apps on here and stuff like that. I just don't want anybody transferring all of my wealth through a PayPal account or something like that. I guess I just don't care. My phone has been stolen once or twice and that hurt me. Stolen?

Like you left it somewhere and they lifted it? Yeah, I was playing pickup basketball and someone just swiped a bunch of phones. Really? It's a game with a machine? No. No, this was at North Texas. Oh, wow.

This was some time ago. So it was very easy for him to just open and disable iCloud or logout or whatever. But how often does that happen? Well, even if it happened once, it could be bad. It was. No, I should have learned my lesson, but I didn't. Memo to Dallas drivers.

We talked about this a couple weeks ago about how they are changing the speed limit, lowering it on the Central Expressway stretch from downtown to Mockingbird from 70 to 65 mph they've been waiting for the signs to get installed before that four miles five it's not even why is it worth the the stretch yeah uh it doesn't seem like it's worth it because they want to collect revenue people they get people used to driving 70, 75, or 80 off that stretch, falling ass out of Dallas.

I'm guilty of it. I do it every time. But now that it's 65, they catch you. Your ticket's going to be more expensive. So anyway, as of this morning, the signs have been installed, and they'll be enforcing the new 65 mile per hour speed limit going uh into and out of downtown dallas between mockingbird and 75 i believe it lightens up to 65 once you get north of mockingbird but there was that stretch man or maybe it gets to 70 there but

the problem was you had people coming out of off that woodall rogers extension or whatever and just flying which i do every time. I can't wait to get through that log jam. And when I do, it is, let's see what this little GTI can do. And it hauls ass. But I don't want to get a ticket. So I guess I'm just never on 75

when there's that much room to run. Yeah, that's true. This doesn't really affect me. I'm only in Dallas, you know, drive times. It may be different if you live around there. Yeah. That's true. This doesn't really affect me. I'm only in Dallas, you know, drive times. It may be different if you live around there. Yeah. So that's a little public service announcement to those of you that make that trip sometimes. All right, one more quick here.

Maybe not quick. So we had Gibby Haynes, singer of the Butthole Surfers on, was that earlier this week? Yes. Was that Monday? Monday. Monday. For his big birthday appearance birthday appearance dan colt called him from a weird number and lo and behold surprising to me he picked up and he's always

great he's a he's a wild ride always has been but i love that dude an article came out today and apparently i don't know why this guy would be being interviewed but it's a guitar player that played or plays with the butthole surfers and this guy's name is paul leary and he kind of gave a little bit of an oral history of what life was like back with the Butthole Surfers when they were in addition to the very first Lollapalooza tour. Now, this article may have happened because of the recent onstage Donnybrook between Perry Farrell and Dave Navarro of Jane's Addiction where we played the video and talked about that. You know, that could be the only time I've ever heard someone use the word Donnybrook.

Like I said, my friend from Liverpool's in town and I'm screwed. I've read it. It's one of those words you've never said. You just read. I put my stuff, my trash in the rubbish bin earlier today, too. He said it and I just nodded like I knew what he meant. Is your rubbish bin in the garage?

It's in the garage, yeah. I have a neighbor who's British or Australian. British guy, yeah. They in the garage? It's in the garage, yeah. I have a neighbor who's British or Australian. British guy, yeah. Yeah. They got the garage. Yeah. Then I slap him. And the hood of your car is the bonnet, and the trunk is your boot.

What's up? Is he on holiday? He is on holiday, yes. All right. Yeah. Can you stop? No. He doesn't go to college. He won't go over there. Do you know that? He won't holiday, yes. All right. Yeah. Can you stop? No. He doesn't go to college.

He won't go over there. Do you know that? He won't go to England. You don't go to college in England. Where do you go? University. You go to university. That's right.

Can we skip ahead? Yeah, I was trying to do this story. What's the story? But somebody brought up Donnybrook. So the guitar player for Butthole Surfers. I think the reason they're doing this is because of the recent fight between the guys and Jane's Addiction. Well, Jane's Addiction, Perry Farrell specifically, they were the ones that put together this whole Lollapalooza thing. And now it used to tour around.

I saw it when it came to Dallas in 91 or 92. Now it basically is just a festival that's in Chicago. And it's super cool. And it's like a whole week-long thing. festival that's in Chicago and it's super cool and it's like a whole week long thing but the butthole surfers in addition to Sushi and the Banshees, Living Color, Nine Inch Nails, Fishbone and Rollins Band were on the original Lollapalooza tour and Paul Leary guitar player from the butthole surfers tells a couple of stories that I thought were pretty funny and all tracked if you know Gibby at all he says our light show would not work during the day you couldn't really get the same effects as you could if uh unless you were watching us at night

now granted they were probably one of the opening bands so more than likely their show started before the sun went down so he said Gibby got a 12 gauge pump shotgun and he'd load it with what's called popper loads they don't shoot bullets they're used to train dogs by having a louder more violent explosion than a regular shell Sushi and the Banshees was on that first Lala tour and at one show I was playing a solo and I looked down and there's Gibby and Sushi at my feet, wrestling around with a shotgun pointed at my head, trying to grab it from each other. It was like seeing a rattlesnake.

I freaked out and jumped 10 feet into the air. He says, looking back on their stage shows, he said, We were really lucky because we set fires every night for a decade, but we never got hurt. One time, Gibby got injured by an exploding coffee pot, but that was when we were staying at a house in Georgia. His skin was falling off his arm for a month.

In those days, we couldn't afford a doctor, but we never got injured on the actual stage. He said, despite receiving six-figure offers to reform for live shows, the Butthole Surfers told The Guardian earlier this year that they won't be reemerging from their eight-year hiatus for both their own safety and the safety of their audiences, which might be best for all those concerned.

But I don't know if you ever got to see them or if your relationship with Gibby was kind of like a later-in-life thing. Yeah, I don't know anything about them. I just heard one song, I don't know anything about them. I just heard one song, I liked it, and I was like, oh. They were the definition of punk. Like, they lived it. This is like Gigi Allen level stuff, maybe without all the defecation. But Buddle Surfers were freaking great live.

And it was, you never knew what you were going to get. You didn't know if it was just going to be a good tight show with a really tight band up there playing their songs or if the thing was going to devolve in absolute mayhem. And I think the latter of those two options were typically what happened. But cool stuff to hear about those old stories from the old butthole surfers days. Yeah, I love that guy. He's awesome. And unfortunately, you might not ever get to see him again. To hear about those old stories from the old butthole surfers days. Yeah. I love that guy.

He's awesome. And unfortunately, you might not ever get to see him again. So, yeah, like he said, they've been offered a bunch to reform. He's like 70. What did he say? 65, 66? Something. Not everyone's Mick Jagger. That's crazy.

Isn't he like 80? 81, I believe. Still out there? Yeah. 80, 81. Still doing it. Isn't he like 80? 81, I believe. Still out there? Yeah, 80, 81. Still doing it. Like in better shape than I am? Do you think Mick Jagger's fitness program is better than Gibby Haynes's? I do.

Certainly it's a new 27-year-old every couple years, correct? Doesn't he roll through the ladies? Mick Jagger? Yeah, historically, yeah. Yeah. All right, there's your news. All right. The Dumb Zone News.

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The dumb zone presents. I don't see that here. Just checking. That'd be great. For dates. Come here. Tom handed me his old Blackberry

I save all my old phones do you have all your old phones yeah so I have my old one at the den somewhere but it has the raised mine was smaller but it

I didn't I never had Blackberry that was like always the high toned one Tom's a high toned guy I'm a man of the people of the earth got my bare feet

my iPhone 13 mini it's funny because he's like turning into this electron guy but then during the break Tom said you know you're electron guy and Daniel's like whoa I mean don't loop me in. I'm just looking into it.

He's aspiring, potentially. I'm electron curious, but I'm not there yet. But it's funny that you want to get into something until somebody identifies you as that. Oh, right, for sure. Well, maybe I don't want to be. Like, as far as I've gone with it, is when I take the dogs out at 11 p.m. every night,

I will now not put on shoes to go out. That's as far as I've gone. So like all the rest of the day I'm wearing rubber-soled shoes. But I think I can tell the difference that one minute a night, and I think there's probably more electrons at night. You need to... In the earth. If you're going to do it, then jump in.

You're an idiot. Do it. Buy some moccasins. I don't know what you're talking about. Walk through grass. You don't know what you're talking about. That's the best comeback I've ever heard. Today is Thursday, October 3rd.

On this day in 1951, after coming back from 13 and a half games, New York Giants beat the Brooklyn Dodgers 5-4 in the final game of a three-game playoff with a dramatic ninth inning three-run home run by Bobby Thompson. Blake, it's called? The Shot Heard Around the World.

All right. See? He knows some baseball history. The young pup know what up. Very hit and miss. On this day in 1974. Okay, get this. 23 years later.

A lot of baseball. A lot of weird little things, the same thing. Anyway, on this day in history, this is a weird day. It's an electron-filled day. 1974, Frank Robinson, Major League Baseball's first black manager. Of the? Turn on Tom. Go ahead, Tom.

Go ahead. We can hear you now. Cleveland Indians. Yeah, I was trying to test this idiot. It was the Cleveland Indians. Is that what I'm supposed to say? Well. So baseball's first black manager is in 1974.

Player manager, let's not go crazy as if you could do something and not be playing as well. Kind of like this first black basketball coach was. You don't know? It was Bill Russell. Player coach. Same day, but it's 1989. Took 15 years for the NFL to name their first black head coach.

Anyone know who? Yeah, I can't think of his name. Art Shell. Named head coach of the LA Raiders. They actually say second black head coach, if you count Fritz Pollard, coached the Akron Pros in 1921. I don't think that counts. Was that in the Negro Football League?

I don't think so. I don't think that even exists. On this day in 1993, it's the Indians' last game at Cleveland Stadium. I only mention this because this is the stadium I grew up going to. And on this very day, they drew 72,390 fans. The biggest stadium in baseball. Which equaled their cumulative fans up to that point. Through the season, it doubled their attendance.

Was that where you had your brick? No, I got the brick. The stadium was falling apart for years. I worked the brick out of the wall in Greg Swindell's first ever start. But a lot of people took stuff, you know. Did you call it the Muni? But the stadium wasn't closing. It was just the Indians last game.

Did you guys call it the Muni? No. What did you call it? Stadium. You didn't have a nickname for it? Levin Stadium. Was it Municipal Stadium? Yeah. Why didn't you guys call it the Muni? No. What did you call it? Stadium. You didn't have a nickname for it? Levin Stadium. Was it Municipal Stadium? Yeah. Why didn't you guys call it the Muni? We didn't have to do nicknames back then. Back then? That's just kids these days got it short and everything. Everything was a nickname back then. No. Had you been to, what year did that thing close? You just said. What year? 1993. Had you been to Arlington Stadium?

Oh, yeah. So when it was... I used to come here every summer. That's right. How did that measure up with Cleveland's? Like not even close or were they similar? They look kind of the same when I see old pictures. Nothing close at all.

Cleveland, it held 80,000 people. It was huge. But I'm talking about just the style of it, the amenities, and just metal benches and the sad thing. That's what I think of. Yeah, there's metal benches in the outfield. Cleveland was very similar to the old Yankee Stadium. Cavernous Stadium.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. So actually that season, though, a lot of people did want to go to see the last season of Cleveland Indians baseball. They drew 4,394,000 fans. Damn. 394,000.

Sorry. So my first thing that was interesting for this day was first black head coach in baseball and basketball same day. Or excuse me, in football. The second thing would be on this day in 1995, it's the O.J. Simpson murder trial. And the verdict was announced. Not guilty. But on the same day in 2008, the O.J. Simpson robbery trial, getting the sports memorabilia at gunpoint in Vegas, found guilty. No coincidence there, by the way.

Sentenced to nine to 33 years in prison. Granted parole in July 2017. Started a Twitter. Talked about Baker. And then, yeah. And then he, of course... Pretty in-depth coverage of Baker, if I remember correctly, right? Between 08 and 17 is when he went on with the Sports Princess

on a cable access show and took calls. a sports princess on a cable access show and took calls. So I'd like to tell Danny some things because other people who just started subscribing. Yeah.

So Blake found do you remember the old sports princess OJ thing? Oh yeah. So if you go back in our episodes in fact

with the website, we might need to try and, I think you could probably search OJ on dumbzone.com nowadays. And then that'll just bring up the episodes where we had, so Blake found, we thought it was one day.

All these years. Remember, there was like a montage of callers that it was really funny and one was like a ticket prank caller who ended up calling OJ and doing a prank. It was funny. So it turns out OJ did like a whole week with the sports princess. An hour a night.

They would take calls every night. How many of those had to have been? It was incredible. Huh? How many pranks did that guy have to sit through? A million. Yeah. And I watched them all.

I love how he just pretends he can't hear. Yeah, it's great. He had a. Yeah, he rolled with every single one of them. Do you have some that we've never heard? Yeah, we played it. Yeah, we played them. If you go to dumbzone.com and search OG, I'll bet you can find them.

I don't have a subscription. Well. If you go to dumbzone.com and search OJ, I bet you can find them. I don't have a subscription. Well, that sounds like a DP. I just couldn't afford it when you guys raised your prices. It's too much. Well, it's to pay for you. Well, that was all Tom's fault, but you'll be hearing about that in a moment. but you'll be hearing about that in a moment. And on this day in 2003, a tiger attack magician, Roy Horn,

of Sig Freedom Roy. Yeah, didn't he eat his face? I'm not sure if he ate his face. Well, he didn't just sit on it. But my tie-in, so we had Blackhead coach tie-in, you had the OJ tie-in, the two dates, and the tie-in for this day with the Tiger attacking Roy Horn. When we get to Born on this Day, Now Dead,

today is the birthday of Roy Horn. Aww. On his birthday. I know. The Tiger attacked him. That's what he gets for working on his birthday. Yeah. That's why Jake always takes his birthday off. And then he takes like the whole following month off. That's his new bit.

Yeah. He takes his birthday in August off. Birthday month. And then he takes the whole next month off. Maybe he's recovering from a tiger mauling. Yeah, and we won't... What if it's like plastic surgery or something? Because you know how you have to wait for that to heal?

Yeah, who was it that said transitioning? Yeah. Maybe he used this opportunity to live out his true dream. They always say what recovery is four to six weeks. He's right there. Pretty spot on. Or maybe it's like they used to do back in the Mad Men era.

He's pregnant. And he's going to deliver the baby in shame. Some other city. Yeah. Not to bring shame to the family name. Right. Yep. That's how I was born. Other birthdays we have CJ Stroud, 23. Is he okay?

Everything going fine? He seems to be pretty good. Seth Jones is 30. Son of Popeye. Former Maverick great. And hockey man from Arlington. Oh. Bruce Arians is 72.

Where's he? I don't know He just retired right? After Tampa Bay He's like I won the Super Bowl Let's retire Yeah I once ran in his 5K

The Arians race Hmm What's up? Well I'll see your arians race and let me raise you the fact that uh once i went to a tampa game and it was really weird because they had a fan section uh like they had a brady fan section and then they had like the bruce arians had his own like fan section. And then they had like the Bruce Arians had his own like fan section and they would put like a sign handmade signs that said Aryan Nation. Don't look at me.

I don't have anything. I tried to come up with a joke to impress the sports Fuhrer. Yeah. And then he one ups me with another Fuhrer. Yeah. And then he one-ups me with another Fuhrer joke. A couple of baseball both days. Ran in his 5k. His 5k.

You're looking at me like, what? When? Where? You raised a bunch of money, I remember. So much. I pledged. So many donations. Yeah.

Went to a good cause. This is Bruce Harrians. This event means so much to me. Check it out. A couple of birthdays today. Dave Winfield, 73. Dennis Eckersley, 70. Now, Dennis Eckersley, you're probably thinking,

that's the guy who was traded from the Cleveland Indians because he and Rick Manning were banging each other's wife. True. But that's not what I want to bring up. I want to bring up a little war games today between Dave Winfield and Dennis Eckersley. a little war games today, between Dave Winfield and Dennis Eckersley.

Now, you may know Dennis Eckersley as the man who reinvented the closer role and set all kinds of records. Yeah. Gave up the home run to Kirk Gibson in that World Series, I think, when he was unstoppable. He's won a Cy Young as a closer. But he was also like a great starting pitcher to start his career. He was a young Cleveland Indian and would go on to the Boston Red Sox. Let's see.

Other teams. Cubs and then, of course, Oakland. Yeah, where he really made his name. Anyway, Dennis Eckersley versus Dave Winfield. You've got Dennis Eckersley with a 24-year Major League career. Dave Winfield, a long career as well. He ended up with over 3,000 hits. He was best known in the

70s for being right to the big leagues. Drafted out of high school, right to the big leagues. Never played a day of minor league baseball. So who would you think? I feel like this is a trick question. It's Dave Winfield. It's got to be Dave Winfield.

Hold on. Tom, you're yelling, but not into the mic. Grab a mic, Tom. Yeah. It's fun. What do you think? I think it's Eckersley. What do you base that on?

The number of appearances as a relief pitcher coming out the winter. He has quite a few of them. Ooh, I didn't think about that. That makes a lot of sense. His father also spent life in prison. Is that true? Dennis Eckersley's dad? Yes.

Damn. Well, not his whole life because he had Dennis Eckersley. That's true. Just after he got caught doing whatever, then life. Conjugal visit. Not like as a baby. It's just murder. No one ever spends their whole life in prison.

Is Eckersley's mom a prison guard? That's a good comeback. Eckersley, 62.1. Bam, that's pretty high. That's really pretty high Damn it Dave Winfield 64.2 I didn't think it would be that close

And you guys stood your ground and you're the winner I was surprised it was that close too I just thought Eckersley Relievers don't They don't score well here Get big but I guess All those saves and then he was a starting pitcher. Yeah, he was a great starting pitcher for many years.

What was his first year in the league? He won 197 games. Wow. His first year was 1975. Dang. His first year was 75? Yes. They retired the exact same year.

Winfield's first year is 1973. Tommy Lee is 62. Drummer. Had his dog taken by a coyote. But snatched back by his woman, right? Yep. Gwen Stefani is 55. No doubt.

And whatever American Idol or voice she's on. Yeah, voice. Sean William Scott, 48. Actor from American Pie? Yeah, I love him. Stifler. Yeah, yeah. We're doing great.

We're three for three, Blake. You and me are killing it right now. I know him as old school dart in the neck guy. Yes. Yeah. Ashley Simpson, 40. Oh, she... Lip-sync. Yeah. sang yeah her lip sync did and panicked and did a weird dance on snl remember that i read her sister's book yeah and noah snap is 20

of course you guys already know him he's uh will byers on stranger things he's now if it's a name that we don't know it's either an actor from stranger things or the boys there could not make a mental note next time we don't know a name there cannot be a tv series that's out that i watch every time they do a new season and i care less every time it comes out. So you've watched it? Yeah, the whole thing. Okay. Yeah. What do you think about the fan theory that Will is gay?

I don't. Never heard that, nor do I care. Gay in real life? No, on the show. On the show? That he's in love with, what's his name, who wants to date Eleven? Mike. Mike and Eleven hooked up?

I don't know, man. You don't sound like a guy who's watched the show. Born on this day, now dead. John Gorey. He invented cold air refrigeration. Thank you. Hero.

Because for years, people were getting sick with the hot air refrigeration. Yeah. Like E. coli. You know, you'd eat a piece of meat, it would have all this fuzz on it. He's like, wait, wait, wait. Fuzz.

I got an idea. Roy Horn and Biff Henderson, who was on Letterman. Dead in this day, still dead. John Heisman and Roddy McDowell. The actor Cornelius from Planet of the Apes. And. And that was Today in History. That was a double and.

I apologize for that. And. We are now at the portion of the program that we like to call Closing Remarks. I'm going to clap for Tom here. Nobody else really cares about you at all, Tom. And so for Closing Remarks, Tom has chosen to walk away. It appears he has gifts. To the fridge. Yeah, I think he has chosen to walk away. It appears he has gifts. To the fridge.

Yeah, I think he has another drink for me. He's like, this isn't taking effect. I think I handed you the wrong water. I'll see you in the Diddy Lounge. Now, Tom is a guy who has emailed. He's a big supporter. We've been out to his place before. And he will send, and i appreciate when you do send your thoughts or advice or i i like to hear from smart people from guys who have done

things in life um and i will listen to them i i feel before we get to tom i feel like tom i got here earlier than you guys did so i got a nice nice 20, 30-minute tour of the estate. I feel like Tom and I connected enough that if shit started going really badly for me, that he might let me live here for a short term, maybe four to six weeks. Like if things were really bad, and that was a sad, really bad case of something happened where I didn't have anything to support myself,

I think Tom might provide me a room where I could stay here for four to six. I'm going to guess he might let you stay outside. Yeah. But provide you a room seems like. That's fine. But I feel like we connected on that level. You're welcome anytime. Oh, see?

I told you. Me and Tom, we are tight tight he knows how to lie on like man's anus well i think i have to correct myself i believe it's dennis eckersley's uh brother that spent time in prison okay that is important but you are reddit we're yelling you about you are certainly well i don't want to go with the fake news. I want to try to give it the right deal. But really appreciate you guys coming out here today. I got a couple of things written down here, if it's okay.

You had sent us an email. Oh, yeah. Like I said, you had some advice, and I like a lot of it. One of the things he said, this is a few months ago, your current price is way too low. It's very common for new businesses to not realize their own value. Consider going to $15 a month.

You're doing 16 shows a month. Make it 20 with one being an interviewer or whatever you guys come up with and you should raise your monthly fee and $10 would be too effing low. But he wrote out the word. He wrote out the bad word for what you guys do. So I just want to say we didn't go to the level.

I think our thought is we will never go above $10. Oh, wow. I feel like that's... Now, call me in 20 years if we're still doing this and all that kind of stuff. Gas is like $800 a gallon or whatever.

Maybe we'll have to consider that. But I feel like never wanting to go into double digits is a good bet. Well, I feel like once you get... Unless it's a really funny number. Once you get more electrons, I feel like you'll turn into Bicycle

Man. I don't know if you'll care about gas prices. You're going to care. It was less than 10 years ago that I thought I'd never charge more than $3 for a domestic beer at a bar, but that's doubled. Things change, Dan. At your bar? Yeah.

Just because. You've got to keep up with cost. Not us, bro bro we're different all right we'll see we're the electron based podcast sorry tom go ahead i interrupted you no yet i've been talking for two hours no um okay a couple of things first of all that i guess my concern with the uh with the premium was my biggest concern with any new entity any new company is the cash burn you know and there's only so much fuel in the tank and i just want to see you give yourself the best possible chance for success early on is you know critical but clearly you guys are making some great decisions

in what your approach is. Enjoy the TV show. Enjoy the production. The show gets better and better. I miss Jake, but I love Danny. So, you know, we got to roll with it.

Blake is the one guy to get a lot of credit for that TV show because he's spending a lot of his own time just doing that production, man. And we wanted to give it to someone else. And he's like, yeah, but I don't want it to look crappy. It doesn't look crappy.

That's good. It's good stuff. You know, and I've told you this previously, but when you had Adam Romo on, the ceo of ets i thought that was a tremendous interview and it was a lot to be learned there and you ask all the right questions and it just i hope you look at down the road and i know you got your plate full you all do uh but you know local ceos in the area for you to get in front of and interview, I think it would add to your listener base. You'd be drawing in people who might otherwise not be aware of you.

So I think it's fantastic. One of the things that he talked about that Adam Romo did, talked about was his experience at a Big Ten accounting firm, which kind of laid the groundwork for him finding success in his future ventures. And it wasn't a straight line up, but he got there. straight line up but but he got there and i think you and your background of some 20 25 years in a top market in the country pulling down serious ratings and actually choosing to walk away right is is a testament to you know where you're going to end up from this. I think it's fantastic. And one of the things that I could say is that if you were to fill the room with all the people who have gotten behind the mic in the country, right, in the last 20 years, how many are still standing and how many people had the success that you did,

that's a testament to where you're going to go and i think a lot of your decisions that you're making now are or something that ties into the first gift that i have here for you the author of the these books that i'm going to give each of you and i got one for jake as well. His name is George Polari, and it's Seven Deadly Stupidities. And it's using other people's failures to make better decisions. Because some of the decisions that you all are making right now are going to have an effect years down the road, the good ones and the bad ones. And obviously, some of the bad ones can be fatal to a company, right? So I found this to be very appropriate to give to each of you. It's a good read. It's an easy read. And the author actually did put a little note in there for each of you. And so I'm going to give you a...

You know the author? I do. Okay. You know, I've always said those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. You always say that? I came up with that, yeah. And so it feels like... When did you last say that before today?

All the time, dude. I'm around you a lot. You can't know me for five minutes without hearing that from me. Oh, Dan's got a Nick Saban chapter. Oh, yeah? Yeah. The book details decision-making. He takes seven different situations,

sort of an autopsy of the catastrophic failures that are made. A lot of them are made out of emotions or made out of a bias or an impulsive decision. And it's unbelievable the amount of impulsive decisions made by high, high IQ people. So it's not, oh, the smart guy in the room and all. A lot of times it's somebody who's willing to take the time and put the work in to make those decisions, looking at the long-term ramifications. It's an easy read. It's very valuable in that I can kind of take each story and overlay it over my own personal experiences, where you came up short.

A lot of times it's easy to blame other people when things go wrong, personal experiences, you know, where, you know, you came up short or if you had, you know, a lot of times it's easy to blame other people when things go wrong, but most of the time it's your own decisions that drive that. Right. This is great. Cause I just finished my, uh, yeah. One floor is a cuckoo's nest. So now I need a book to just start. And I was thinking last night about going to get one and the author, I've known the author for many years and, and, uh, he, he he he came out of college started his own company took it public by the time he was 30 um and he's been a consultant to over 100 different companies and and working them through crisis situations so pretty uh pretty

good pretty good read there now that's that's one thing the other thing is we've discussed a lot about dental hygiene uh yeah i guess in the last week it even came up again as far as flossing uh and a while back i felt bad for jake because you know his inability to brush his teeth without gagging right so so i put together i did a little research and uh i give to each one of you and of course i got one for jake as well so you seem to do this like i have to do for my kids is uh equal presence you know you this time because i think last time you gave us all different different alcohol and now we're all getting like the same i did i felt bad about the alcohol thing because i felt like that was

the cheap way out as far as putting any thought into anything so this time I figured I would I would try to align it with something that would actually be a little bit more beneficial for you than the alcohol did you open yours it says it says toothbrush yeah is it some kind of a, yeah. These are awesome. I've seen these advertised, but it's a sonic, ultrasonic toothbrush where there's like trays that you would have if you were whitening your teeth, but there's actual brushes inside the trays and it's attached to a small motor. Do you use this yourself or what? You just researched.

These are dope. Okay. I bought one for myself, but then I got a curveball with Blake being out. So I have another one to order it. I'll give it a shot. Nice, man. You should be our PR department. Yeah.

He's helping us. He's helping us have good dental hygiene and smart business acumen. But he also kind of pumps us up. Yeah. I know. Like we don't think we of pumps us up. Yeah. I know. Like we don't think we suck as bad when we leave. I know. Hey, maybe we're okay.

That'll be short-lived. Yeah, I know. I know, but still. As we talked about last time. He's like a drug. No, no. As we talked about last time when I was here. Speaking of, you haven't opened your new water bottle.

We put together the high percentage of failures in the business that you've entered into here, and you far exceeded what the typical podcast life cycle is. So you're on your way. Okay. It's just getting better and better. Well, thanks for having us, man. Is that it? Looks like you're setting the mic down, and I just don't want to cut you off

because this is your time to shine. And I appreciate you having us out here, man. No, thanks for coming. Okay. Well, adios, mofo. We've got to go before this becomes a zoo. Thank you for watching my video. Subscribe and type for my name if you want to watch more of my videos. I woke up in the morning, I started yelling people them yelling I'm not I will go. I go to Guinea. I went everywhere. Ebola. Ebola. I'm not going anywhere. I'm right here. I'm not going nowhere. I'm right here.

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