The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 10-3-25 PREVIEW | Cowboys-Jets preview with Mike Marshall, Jared Sandler, and Chappy

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Hear the entire episode by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneLet's react live to Limp Bizkit's new jam and reminisce about a better time in music. Then let's talk about Cowboys at Jets where the Cowboys are favored by 2.5 points ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hey now, what you were about to hear is a free preview of one of this week's premium episodes of The Dumb Zone. If you would like to hear this program in full, along with the full archive, ah, shit. If you would like to hear this program in full with the archive of all of our past episodes, you can subscribe at dumzone.com. Um, all right, before we get into some sports, I have a list of topics here from Mike Marshall. The first one, haven't heard the new biscuit if you want to love. live reaction. That's when I learned there was new limp biscuits. Oh, you don't know? Wow. What are you saying what for? Blake? You knew? I did not know this.

Oh. Okay. I certainly was all over their 2021 or two comeback album. I know. I wasn't plugged in for that one. Yeah, I went uh, I went to new Fred Durst to Halloween. Can we play this Clayton? Are we allowed to and like talk about it or is that not?

it's unlisted today just do it monetize it you bring me up this is making love to Morgan Wallen is the name of the song okay

now out of the gate here now ground control with a soul like bowie and I'll chop you up if I'm on depression now here comes auto um

What's the album called What's the album? It's a single It's not an album, it's a single Oh, okay I'll ride my scooter with a cape at night And I'm a high-five me a traffic light I blink twice and I'll tell you what I think about this

It reminds me that Regardless of what you think of Fred Durst or their lyrics, this band's music is good. Like the three other, four other guys are actually very talented. Like between Wes, the bass player was always ridiculous. And John Ott, like, this music has bounced to it. No, whether or not you're like into that vibe. Yeah.

The dudes are very technically sound. And, like, when you come back to this... Yeah. This is as... This sounds like... Dun, dung, dung, dung. The Mission Impossible thing they did. All right, so there you go.

Your reaction. I love it. I didn't know... I don't know what, like, what he was going to do now. Like, it's 2025. I didn't know if they were just going to, like, hey, I'm just going to make, like, something that's not so topical or throw bars in there. I didn't know what they did anymore.

Did you ever have a biscuit phase, Blake? Never. Just completely missed it. You were too young. Were you scared of it? Did you know what it was? I got away with Eminem and I just took that W and just ran with it. Probably smart.

I didn't get. It didn't cross over at all? Because he probably, there's no, were you like on the Slim Shady? You were early? My first ever CD was the Eminem show edited. I got that CD for getting straight A's, I think, in... That White America? Yeah.

Yeah. Till I collapse. Yeah, I know all of that one. Clearing out my closet. 12, 10. Or no, no, without me, it was 10. Yeah. Clause of 6.

That sounds right. Do you know what effing rules is, Let's get down to business. That's song. Oh, that's stupid. And then, isn't there one at the end, say what you say? 15.

Sing for the moment. The one where he starts going after Jermaine Dupree. Yes, that didn't. know any of that. And I didn't have to do it with 10 or 11 year olds. God, which that line, that album fucking cooks. That line made me mad because I was 10. I was like, what's wrong? Yeah, that's tough. I'm cool, man. You didn't understand that Jermaine Dupree was a rap Epstein. Yeah, no, I didn't. Bad pedophile. Till I collapse will make me, like, punch that door. I know. Yeah. It doesn't matter. I have to,

you can't get to avoid it sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes I got to skip past. I'm not, I'm not ready to go there yet. I'm not ready to go to that place. Not there yet. And then after I wore that down, I traded with a buddy who had the Nellieville CD. That's a good one, too. It really is. Not as good as Country Graham. It's a fun era. It's also a crossover, too, because, like, Nelly might have been Little John before Little John.

And I say this in the sense of really getting away with, way more, but really getting away with using terminology on the radio that people just didn't understand. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, a street sweeper, you know, we're talking a gun here. I'm pretty sure pimp juice made it to radio it did it did full title like 43 year old south like mama mama pew jupes

nelly and uh that era of nelly country grammar was like kind of cutting edge it was like you had to like really know somebody that was like from that part of the world it was like the first time i really got into like regional rap uh because we did live up there for like a year during this time but nelly and em and m and m during those times were so fucking huge for white kids that were counterculture yeah like it just was dude rock wasn't really doing it right then yeah and at that age i was not listening to like reasonable doubt like i wasn't like into j z yet right i wasn't into that till probably at least 16 or 17 so you had to have something first hey you want to play the sports theme uh yeah sure i think it's uh right here

From the wonderful world of sports Oh, yeah, I like that. Okay. Who. Pop, spin, your thumb, spitting. We've got Cowboys Jets at noon on Sunday. The spread is at two and a half. If you look at where the jets are right now,

They're kind of one of those teams that you think is just going to play exciting games, can score some points, maybe squeak out your seven, eight wins at the start of the year high side. They suck. They're terrible. They're always going to suck. Yeah, they've got, they've got some exciting pieces, but who doesn't? And if you look at like they're, here's what I'm going to do. I'm a homer, right? I'm a Cowboys Homer, but I like to try to explain my homerism with some level of like, factual data and analysis here. So on the bad side of things, the Jets have a high success rate on offense. And there's a couple different ways you can measure that. Back in the day, we would say four yards on first down, half the yards on second down, move the chains on third. I've seen some people use like five yards on first. But either way, that's generally what you're looking for.

Is that just from the first game, though? because they cooked the Steelers in that first game. I can look game by game. A crazy, like a crazy amount. Yeah. They were getting first, like Justin Fields was just ripping them open. By the way, if you want to hear the ending before the middle, that's kind of the game I'm expecting.

Yeah. Well, I mean, dude, right now on the downside of things, but back to the success rate, they have a high success rate. They have low efficiency numbers because they turn the ball over a lot. So down to down, they're pretty good. They just turn the ball over a lot. So for me, this game is interesting. because I know Dallas can't win

down to down. They're giving up like nine and a half per attempt right now. They're giving up a quarterback rating of 123. They're giving up a 73% completion percentage. A few weeks ago when we were in the den, it might have been the last game,

I can't remember, maybe Bears. The start of the game, I was like, we're just going to play Big 12, 2008 football all season. Because anything you want is there, it's going to come down to a timely stop or a mistake. One way or the other. Dallas has allowed 10 passing touchdowns, but they only have one interception.

So if they can't go get ball against the team that turns the ball over a lot, that's a problem. Like you've still got Duran Bland. You could only expect him to get, it would stand a reason he would get better as the year went on. You have to think he's still good. There's no reason to give up on him yet. Diggs had at least one of those, holy shit, where did he come from? and the screen plays against Green Bay. When he's in it, he's still really good.

This is not a team that should have one interception. And if they can't go get it against Justin Fields, that's what? You're now a third of the way almost through the season with one or two picks? That's not going to work. It feels like they don't, or Iber Flues, doesn't quite know what kind of game they're getting into each game.

Or he has a read on it, but he expects the offense to play some kind of like complimentary football. like the eagles coming out against the eagles and just like playing a really deep shell of like throw everything in front as if they wouldn't grind you into absolute fucking dust like with just a matter of time and jalen hurts with his legs i was like why are you choosing this way yeah are you why do you want to play defense that way and they've done that in every game where it feels like they're expecting something else to happen like their offense is going to spot them points or something and then bland being out digs not being like quite up to speed It doesn't really give you any tools to attack the ball. But you're right. If they have that much invested in the secondary, you got to make a play because nothing else is going to happen on defense. They're not going to do anything else.

It doesn't feel like it. I mean, that's James Houston. It's time for a dumb zone. Interstitial. You've got to keep them separation. So anyways, that's why ultimately, I just think you shouldn't say that word. okay well now i know yeah sorry the swifties crashed the servers clayton oh man i forgot about that we had a limbiscuit attack oh damn maybe maybe so uh i think it's the spread of two and a half

feels low um i just think the cowboys are going to be able to keep scoring points better i don't know i don't know why i just assumed it would be because aaron glenn and like they have some pieces and i'm like oh but i think i underestimated the ability for dudes on shit teams to just have insanely bad years like they just pop up out of nowhere because you know you're not going anywhere like they're so like up and down on bad defenses and bad teams where it's like this corner will be an all pro one year like i've seen it it happens in my me like every other year they'll have someone that pops up and then it'll get paid and then it's like yeah i'm not really motivated anymore um i'm not sure sauce gardener's given a whole lot of fs this

year yeah it's it's that type of dude right it's like obviously can be best at his position if he truly wants to kill himself but he's gotten the point in his career where he doesn't have to like do that constantly and i thought their defense was going to be good it sucks ass like they've been torched. So another week where we can perhaps continue the DAC MVP campaign. I'm here for it. Yeah.

You ready? The what? For DAC MVP? I would love that for you. Listen. You can say it like that if you want. We spent a lot of time with you guys telling me he was as done as done gets.

And I wasn't reaching by saying I just think he can play like he did in 23 maybe better because he's got pickings i was adding two and two and getting to four it's not like i i don't i don't have this conversation again but it's just dack is good i'm just tired of him that's all it is yeah it's i'm tired of him it's post hype prospect like and i'm i get being tired of him but there is something to like i can divorce myself from the fact he thinks dude perfect is funny because i don't he's not russell wilson well i mean like russell wilson hey At the beginning, like, doing the high five to everybody.

Everybody's laughing at Russell Wilson. I'm not saying nobody in there is laughing at Dak, but in general, I think they think, like, oh, he's unk, for example. Yeah, and that's only part of it. It's not an exciting game. He's going to put up MVP numbers. They'll flirt with 500. If they get in, they'll get trounced. I'm tired of this game script.

Just let's try something else. I want a different season of a different show. I'm tired of this Dak Prescott. Be careful what you ask for. It's totally fair. Yeah, but even if we do suck, then we're picking in the top 10 for the first times, I don't know, in how long, which would be more fun than picking it 12 or 15 and getting another guard. Yeah, that's just really dicey, Vey, because then it's got to be the right year. It's got to be the right QB class.

Sure, but I want to see that. You want to fast forward to that? I've seen this DAC 500 not make any noise in the playoffs. I've seen it for a decade. Yeah, I mean, I've been exactly where you are before. I think last time whenever he was whatever playoff game that was

where he's acting like he was a blind person I was like this shit's over I was like this has to end yeah I've seen this movie and yeah

I'm past the stage of being interested in anything he does but like I think it's kind of funny at this point well I don't whenever he cooks

so the Jets did a really weird thing where you know I'm on the PR list where I get the game notes and typically it's you know oh here's here's a few things but they actually sent out what they call their flight notes and it's what the jets do well i'm not seeing any other team

do this pretty short well cool i think we actually i might know a guy who works there i'll forward this to you because it's good stuff uh i'm afraid of quinine williams yeah against backup guards uh according to the flight notes quinine williams has the best run stuff percentage he's been awesome still yeah and he can play pressures the quarterback stops the run and if the cowboys can't run the football then I don't know sauce on picking scares me yeah it does I would say that the offensive line

has been better than I expected it to be given all the conditions and I don't know what's our status on do you have the updated injury in front of you no I mean I know BB's out for a few weeks bookers out for a few weeks so it's Going to be Hoffman and Bass, I would imagine. Hoffman looked okay. And you know what?

Watching the sounds of the sideline, he was a lot more vocal than I expected for a backup. You know he's trying to be an influencer? Go on. He'll do, he's just on Instagram. Like he's like, what is an NFL offensive lineman eating a day? Oh, no. He's doing that bit. Where, I mean, if you're a backup and you got time, cool.

Let's see if he's posted recently. Okay, here's him. He's got the, he's in the studio with a chef, whipping it up. Who's this over here? Huh, okay. Anyway. He just talks trash on Instagram. I like it.

Yeah, and he'll do, he'll do the influencer videos and whatnot. He's like big Baker Mayfield. Like he has a kind of a D-Bag haircut. Yeah, that's good. D-bag beard, but he looks like a badass. In any case, they can get by. Garrett, Garrett Wilson. Gary Wilson is a problem.

Yeah, incredible. So I don't know. I took the Jets and I like that pick. Yeah, I just see, you know, it's Justin Fields. So you are hitching your wagon to Justin Fields. But again, they haven't been horrible offensively. They just turn the ball over a lot, and I'm hoping the Cowboys can go feast on that. I'd be worried about Breece Hall a lot.

I think they're going to start cooking. I think the Cowboys run defense, while not super tested, has been. been fine. Like, they're league average in every... Not necessarily running the ball. Every stat. Yeah. I just, it does make sense that, like, they did add a real defensive tackle up front. They put him next to OSA. I'm not saying Michael was a bad run defender, but I'm not sure that some of the guys they have on the edge are worse. They're just terrible pass rushers. They've got to get 57 off the field. And 59 could follow. I'm not sure his injury status

for Sunday. He's been horrible, right? Yeah, it's not been good. He's been awful. We need zero. But the problem is... We need 35 to stop committing penalties. I was going to say, on our game stream last week, I got my... I got served pretty quickly because I'm like, dude, why is Maris not out there?

Snap counts have been awful. He showed so much in camp, and then he immediately screwed everything up. So... Yeah. So how do you keep Quinn and Williams from ruining your whole day? Um, I think the Cowboys are very effective at running to the edge. And I think you got as much turpin and as much, whether it's Giovante or Miles Sanders, running the opposite direction and just try to get out in space.