The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 10-9-25 | Dirk Nowitzki's new job with Mike Piellucci and DeeZ Picks with Cirque Du Sirois

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneD Magazine's, Mike Piellucci, wrote an article on Dirk's upcoming gig with Amazon. Cirque Du Sirois joins us for week 6 of DeeZ Picks. And the Cardinals coach, Johnathan Gannon, got fined for this? (00:00) - Open: Jake hates picture day (14:18) - Sports Sesh: Cardinals coach fined (35:32) - DeeZ Picks Week 6 (01:08:41) - Big Thursday Viewer Mail Bag (01:35:00) - Mike Piellucci's new article on Dirk's future (02:05:13) - News: Whataburger brawl (02:25:45) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hello, I'm DFWZone, Danny Bayless, letting you know that you are about to hear a free podcast of the DumbZone. But if you'd like to subscribe at DumbZone.com, you will get four shows per week plus the weekend wrap-up and any bonus epies like our Business Wednesday interviews. Oh, you'll also get our DZTV archives. Again, that's Dumbzone.com to subscribe. Now, on to today's program. Our pros are the nicest. We've got the best prices at Flooring, direct. Direct. Direct.

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Happy Thursday, or what is it? Hello, Friends. What do I say for my dad? You say that you want your toast Nance style. That's right. Feels like a Friday. Go on. I just does.

I don't know. Oh, because you're about to be free? I am about to be free. Am I allowed to mention that? For sure. Kids are headed out of town after the show. Kid free weekend. Going to the North Texas game?

TBD. Are you? I don't think so. See, then I have a pass. Mr. U.N.T. himself. See, I was going to go if you guys were going. They're actually, like, the ticket prices are pretty high. They don't believe. Any of them believe I was going to go if you guys went?

Absolutely not. But if he goes, I would. But yeah, I don't know. A full day of, I call it the Red River genocide. Mm-hmm. Because I think it's anything less than just violence is lame and womanly. And woke. But yeah, that'd be a lot.

The Wedwiver woke. I also got invited to an old guy's flag game on Sunday. So I need to expand upon that. Well, I haven't been yet. So Monday I'll have a report. for you but old like 40 and up i don't know but not 25 to 30 year olds like normal 40 now i remember when i turned 40 and they were like hey you want to play it in the 40 and over adult uh baseball league i mean on one hand it sounds like that i didn't there was no game day men's health

back then to yeah to uh it's very true propel me into that you could have dominated that's kind of the thing is like i i it's accepting that i'm old but also if i can't go out there and look like prime ochosynco it's going to be uh it's going to be a problem and blake's idea is oh you could dominate i don't want to dominate i want to i want a healthy competitor a competition that's why i waited till i was 70 to join the 40 and over league i think blake threw us off the argyle gear on thursday because normally we're used to seeing him come in full argyll ready on friday that's also i think part of it when he when i walked in i thought But who they got tonight?

Well, we still have someone tonight. Okay. What does that mean? Thursday night game this week. Okay. Okay. You'll get a couple of those throughout the... Where are we going?

Flex your Metroplex. We're going to Arlington. A brand new stadium at Arlington Martin High School. Okay. Arlington Martin has their own house? They do now. Damn. You know, when I was a kid, that was like the...

You think your school's big? Martin had like 6,000 students or something. crazy like that wasn't it i don't know anyways back you did we have a sit-in today he is ryan rogers i've met him before i've texted with ryan rogers right yeah you've actually called me it was really weird just to hear that on the phone i love hearing about people's interactions with dan all right go on what does this mean why no no just because i've heard your voice on the so many years. It's just weird to hear it on the phone. But then we met. Yeah, exactly.

I know. But then I called you after we met. No, it was cool. Okay. Why is this guy criticizing my voice? Now I know what Jake's feeling like. No, no, just meaning that I've heard that voice for so many years, it's just weird that that person's calling you on the phone. And all the pauses. See, I know what Blake was talking about, because I've heard it, and people are like,

I didn't know when to hang up. That's not what I meant. I just meant it was just weird hearing somebody you've heard on the radio for so many years calling you. T.C. still says he doesn't like talking to you on the phone. T.C. doesn't like talking to me? Yeah. Or it's just confused by it. I'm... Okay.

I think he's doubly attacking me now because I mentioned his voice. I know. You brought up the phone thing. Did you? I did. I thought that's what Ryan was talking about. Anyway, Ryan's with I Butler, and that's what we were talking about. He was here last year. Where were you? Rummy Where were you

Uh Isn't that what they called The heavy drinker Back in like the 20s A rumy Yeah I've heard it from you I've heard it from you Most of those type things

I've heard whino Yeah Yeah it's too obvious Yeah He's a rummy Yeah I was in rehab Dan What's the equivalent

Of a buzz ball That's a good one A ball bro Yesterday was Business Wednesday I feel like we got a lot accomplished. Yeah.

Including a head shave. Sick. That's always a good capper to the day. Yeah. Let's just lay in the chair. Part of Business Wednesday, we were just going through our Sked, what we're going to be doing around Christmas time. We're trying to plan some things.

Trying to plan ahead for once. Look at us. You know how we came up with the DZGSE, the generic summer event, and then did it two weeks later? Like now we're like, what if we did it a few months out? We could actually be prepared. So we'll see. We'll see how that goes.

But one of the other things we were looking at is two weeks away. Is Denver two weeks away? We're going to Denver for the Cowboys game. And we just, we are going to broadcast at a bar called the dive-in, the Friday before the cowboy game and the Monday after. Rave reviews rolling in. on that particular location? From locals or once locals? Well, we wanted to hear from some locals or fellow travelers

if you will be at the Denver game and like you've got a tailgate thing set up and like we just wanted to have a meetup thing the day of the game. So we don't have anything yet. We will try to find something. And if somebody hits us up, then we'll promote that. will be like a meetup spot

for those who are traveling to Denver because I do think a lot of cowboy fans are traveling to this Denver game. Yeah, I've got three or four groups of dudes that I know we're going to the game. I've not asked if they have tailgate capabilities, which I think just means having a parking lot,

a parking spot. If we can't find one, we'll do it. How about that? Whoa. You're demanding? The Mile High website says all tailgate parties must break down and conclude 45,

minutes prior to kickoff. No way. Like, if that's normal, which it may be, that's never, I've never seen that at AT&T. There's people still out there during the game. They just don't go to the game. Yeah, they bring a big screen TV and watch it there. So I don't know what that means. You're saying Denver sucks already.

Yeah, did you know that the parking lot is laid out like a swastika? I believe that's the airport and I believe I'm preparing a report. No, I'm preparing a reports for that week. Good. Like, because there is a reason we're driving and not flying. And it is the conspiracy theories that surround the airport. We would fly. Sure.

But we're going to drive. We're going to go RV it. Fun times. Oh, I got one thing before we jump into sports. We should do away with picture day. It's an anachronism. It's a holdover from a time when people didn't have cameras and video cameras. cameras in their pocket where they're creating constant like you could do a stop motion video

of every day your kid's life if you wanted now his voice makes sense doesn't it he had to go to picture day no yeah yell at his kids i don't yell at your nice clothes on let me do your hair we have to go tuck it in no let me tell you see no i on the way to school which i take her solo I was like, yeah, we can't have the problems getting out every day like this. And I was like, I know you don't want to do pictures. And she was like, that's all it is. I don't want to do it. And I go, let me tell you something.

You shouldn't have to. I was like, you should tell them today that you shouldn't have to do it. You're not making this better. Because all your friends, none of them want to do it either. Your teachers haven't thought about the fact that this is a waste of time. They're only doing it because nobody had cameras before. And if they wanted to do a class photo, because my wife goes, it's for the yearbook. Okay, that hot button thing that every kid can't wait for under their tree every year.

Just do a class photo that they're all in it because they're all nervous and anxious about doing it. All of them are like, this sucks. I hate what I'm wearing. Hey, let's get the most self-conscious people on earth and have a day where we just make them more anxious. Why? Who's benefiting? What parent? No, I can tell you, my whole kid's life is right here.

I like this. My favorite picture of Brooks is a picture day. picture. It is a way to get pictures of, you know, the girls that you were hot on. Like, you can't just walk around school taking a picture of every girl. Yeah. We just have a I found that out the hard way. That is another perspective. We have a million pictures on her phone, but this one is unique. Why? It's on the fridge. Do you yell at your wife like this when she wants to go to whatever? Doesn't she always make you guys do like a professionally professional photo you're like hey we take pictures 17 pictures a day the truth is of all of us we don't

because they're very very hard to get and so and when we do it that way we kind of convince the kids it's like a fun thing and we tag some sort of fun thing on the end of it and they get to like dress up and it's not their teacher telling them what to do stand in line take this photo she felt nervous about it like why are we doing it what is the point i'll support is this on your platform yeah when you run yeah that this is right underneath uh you're you shouldn't just be called a pedophile if you're 19 and you have sex with a 16 year that's hard to get yeah i know that one we may need to talk about but a little more let's see any other non sports thing i wanted to mention the denver game i think we're good on today's program

We will have Mike Palucci. He is the editor of D Magazine. I don't know his official title. He might be the sports editor. Maybe he's the full editor. He's with D Magazine. Yeah. He makes me sound smart.

He'll join us in studio and talk about his article on Dirk. We only need one name, right? I'm about to have a whole lot of Dirk back in our lives via Amazon pre- post game. Today's Thursday so Viewer Mail Day and today's Thursday so it's D's Picks with the Sorroys

where Jake had another great week, 8 and 2 week for Jake. You're humming along, dude. Nobody can take you down now. It's purely the Cowboys. Hitting a cowboy triple play is going to run out. Is very good. Hitting your

triple play in general as I'm looking at last week's results. Yeah, we got a lot to sort out in that segment. Okay, so those guys will join us in a little bit. But first, we can call this sports or we can call this. A sports sish. And we could say it's brought to us by Community Mechanical, our HVAC company. Brandon Aubrey's HVAC company as well.

They're the ones that you can sign up for preventing. maintenance, a little PM. They sent me an email and they put PM in there. I'm like, what? It's better than premium or preemie mate. Yeah, so preventative maintenance, which means they'll just kind of check everything. You should do this every year.

They came to my house, did it, and they're like, yeah, this duct thing is not connected and it's spewing harmful stuff into your attic. So, like, luckily, it's probably dissipating out the attic, But, you know, that can be bad if this happens for an extended period of time. So anyway, they fixed that. They came in. I had them put in a new thermostat in the den high atop my garage so I can control that right here from my phone.

One other thing I don't think we got to earlier in the week. Speaking to Denver, they got an offer for you. Any customer that purchased a new HVAC system between now and the end of football season gets a $1,700 discount. If Brandon Aubrey breaks the NFL record for longest field goal this year, 17 listeners get that preventative maintenance cost. Really? Refunded for the year. If it's not too long to add the below, then add it.

If Brandon kicks a 70-plus yard field goal at any point this season, we will give away an all-expenses paid trip to a mutually agreed upon 26 cowboy game. That's plane hotel tickets, Brandon Aubrey, Jersey, and some cash to a listener. So if it's going to happen, it's probably happening in Denver. And then one lucky listener will win cowboy tickets. CommunityDFW.com, Dan. All right, we got a lot of sports to get to today. Content.

I forgot this the other day when mentioning Nick Folk. But I was looking through the Nick Folk stuff. He's the kicker for the Jets and was the kicker for the Cowboys as a rookie in 2007. The year after Bill Parcells was a head coach. I forgot in his career didn't have a booming leg. So they actually drafted another kicker and they made him the kickoff specialist. Did you know I dated a Hooters waitress? Isn't that insane that we lived through that?

And everybody's like, yeah, that just happened. Give them credit for one thing. They actually tried to do something innovative instead of waiting until the whole league had already caught up to something. Like the Wildcat, they installed the Wildcat after everybody figured out how to stop the Wildcat. The too tight end system that Belichick was doing, they tried that way late. Giving up on running backs, they still can't figure out that, the proper place to be there. But they tried. They tried saying, you know what, what if we have two kickers on the roster?

That's an interesting callback. Because, see, I would look at that as they were doing it for bits. Because David Beeler was a bit, he could blow people up, and it was this idea that he's a plus tackler on kickoff. Yeah, he was also, he was a wild man. Yeah, you're right, though. He was awesome. That is trying something different. The Nick Folk thing that I was blown away by, and I guess just saying the year 07 drives it home, but he's in Greg Olson's draft class.

Somebody sent that to me the other day. Like, you know, they were both in college the same, they left college the same time. insane uh before you can we'll do cowboys more cowboys here in a second i got a i got to get a check in on the unc football program here um get your licks in now i guess because in the event that bill bellichick

michael lombardy are going to be successful at unc i guess it's going to take some time which we should have expected um but it's going super poorly not just that everybody's they set themselves up for a lot of trolling here. He was calling them the 33rd team. He was?

Yeah. Like that's how he was billing it, is we're going to be run as the 33rd. We're going to run this completely like an NFL program. We're going to get you ready for the NFL. So every article now is like Bill Belichick's 33rd team is 140th in offense or 106th in defense. But a local radio station in Charlotte on Monday had a large report. It's probably a TV station for being serious. I just saw WRAL for a large report on just general dysfunction in the locker room.

They suspended a coach after this reporting because he was giving improper benefits to recruits, including sideline passes to players and their parents. That was something that came out, like I said, in the investigation. There's been fighting in the locker room. players are blaming the culture of bellichick for this the hulu documentary that was set to be produced in lieu of the uh hbo real sports they had landed on unc because nobody would do hard knocks and then unc bailed on the deal because ostensibly jordan hudson said we're not comfortable with this we're going to take our talents to hulu where they were going to have more editorial control

and now that's off. No more documentary this year. Just in general, it brings to mind the question, why is he doing any of this? It was never going to go any other way. I mean, 8 million reasons, right? It's kind of like we were talking about with Brandon the other day.

I just, I feel like, and we're going to talk a lot about Dirk today when he's in here, there's got to be somewhere in life where you're like, I'm super successful. I have all this money. What if I don't make the last thing people remember of me a stripped down shitty version of my prime or general career?

Yeah, and as I say money... Is that worth $8 million if you're... I mean... Money is the reason, because he has enough money to do anything. And he could have been making probably a good... Maybe around half that and maybe less. I don't know. But over a million to just be on TV.

Sure. Like Omaha Productions would pay him to be doing something. Yeah. Look at Sabin. Sabin's doing great. Puppa Belichick at one of those. He's having a time of his life, dude. And even though Michael Lombardi hire was weird

because it makes sense of, hey, we're going to run this like an NFL team. Let's get an NFL guy, but you're not dealing with NFL players. Like the guy who's doing the best in that role is the guy at tech, who's a message board commenter on recruiting websites turned into a GM.

like that guy gets it a lot more than Michael Lombardi with another story here about Bill Parcells for you like at some point this should have been obvious his only time as working in college was an 81 to 84 for UNLV Lombardi so anyways it's a disaster and now they're not allowed to tweet about the about Drake May yeah that was a fun one

too, that they didn't want the program congratulating what is easily their most famous alumni in the sport, you know, they're breadwinner right now. It's a mess, dude. Somehow he's like more insecure than a college coach normally is, which is saying something. In the NFL, the big news is that Jonathan Gannon is being fined $100,000? Yeah. For a sideline thing that was caught. I guess this is just a phone thing, right?

It's just a, this wasn't the TV cameras caught this, but it was somebody put on Twitter or Instagram or something, just him just right in the face of that running back, Demarcato, who I had picked up last week in fantasy. He had a great long run, 77 yards, and then drops the football before getting into the end zone. We have talked about it. It looks like you could argue that that's he actually got up over.

Right? Like, that felt very touchy. But that's not really the debate. The debate is whether it was over the line of what you can do with a player. Yes, then him on the sideline berating the player. And it's, you know, I generally am against that kind of a thing because that player knows. Knows what? knows that they messed up.

He probably already feels, I don't know. Well, that gets into a discussion about the... That's a pretty woke, soft way to deal with things. But, you know, you don't... Do you need to pile on more? Quite obviously, this guy knows that he effed up. But who knows? Maybe they had gone over this in practice.

Yeah, and it's... I guess you're just kind of discussing the function of discipline. And I'm generally with you. Like, I don't hit my kids. Right. I do acknowledge that when I did get smacked, I remembered a lot better. Like, oh, shit, that sucked really bad. Yeah. But I still wouldn't do it because I think it's kind of an easy way out.

At the same time, your argument about how, you know, you would never yell at a kid like a football coach does in a math class, logically makes a lot of sense to me. But when you have an element of physical violence and danger to the job, like football, like the military I don't know you know I don't know I don't I think like with you know Hegseth was getting dunked on by the military community the other day for his like yeah we're going to start

hitting you know hitting recruits again and shit because most of the smart people in the military lean on that you know a society that has its fighting done by cowards and it's thinking done by you know you've got to have the same thing there I don't I can't remember the quote exactly but the cowards and warriors thing of smart people need to be in charge of battle

and strong people need to also be in charge of thinking it can't just be the tough guys it doesn't work motivating with fear then people only do what they're supposed to do when they're afraid yeah so generally I'm against it but I also don't know that I'm going to like crucify a coach for losing one of 17 games he's probably going to get fired

and him slapping a guy in his protective gear or three or four times. I have a hard time getting too mad about that. At the same time, if DeMarcato would have two-piece him and put him in the hospital, they would have arrested him. Mm-hmm.

So I don't know. So as a coach now, you have a different perspective. No, it's not that. You're stalking the sidelines. No, I mean, I didn't think it was weird when our coaches hit us. Like, I mean, I can't tell you how many.

I probably got a concussion more than from getting hit from being slapped extremely hard in the side of a helmet over and over. That was just a normal thing. But, you know, now there's like a lot going on culturally that it's getting filtered through. I don't think he should have been disciplined. I think probably a talking to.

Jonathan Gannon shouldn't. No, and I think Demarcato and whoever have a conversation and they're like, listen, and then you handle it like that. No, I think that you might have neutered him in the locker room a little bit here. Yeah. You do, I mean, we've never seen it really at the Cowboys. since Parcells, but you want the aura, the feeling that your coach is in charge around here and what he says goes. I could see maybe a situation where it just gets the team in the locker room more together

because they're like, that's ridiculous. They're fining him over this. We're football players. They're not. He understands football. Right. You don't really see in the people putting out their opinions on this. The former players kind of think, yeah, okay.

Boy, more than that. That wasn't that big of a deal, you know? For that kind of an egregious act on the field, he should get that. Yeah. And none more fired up. And maybe we should just consider this almost like a Trump tweet where there's one for everything. They're going to be funny. We can't mention it every day.

But, boy, Des has a lot going on on Twitter. And somehow I found one this morning that I, I screenshotted it because when I went to click on it to copy it, it had already been deleted. And it's crazy long. He just rants and rants. I'm getting ready to work out. Come on. And all I can think about is how much I effing hate the sports world.

Folks are saying stupid s like Des, I watched you throughout your career with your emotions and you would have hit Jason Garrett. Now follow me here. I have too much pride in my approach towards success. So if something were to go wrong, I'm ready to take it. accountability, this bullshit political world we live in very scary. People are paid to politicize. It sounds like he's

saying, yes, I would have hit Jason Garrett, and then I would have taken accountability for it. He's all over the map, but in general, you're right. I don't know that Jonathan Gannon lacked for support. Now, what if Shottie did it? I have a little cowboy stuff. I have some Shottie, but you also

have some Yeah, I've got some DAC from the post game. All right. Let's see. I think he's talking about Ryan Flournoy here. Flanoi?

Flanoi. There's no R. I mean, there is an R. It's Silen R. The common silenar. He says something, you're going to have to help me out because they beep it.

I guess this is a saying. I don't know what he's saying. A guy that, what, second year, very, very hungry is not afraid to tell you how much he wants it have plenty of conversations with him going back to like those Atlanta trips

and just those off-season times and spending together and getting to know somebody that guy got he has a lot of there's an old coach you say in his neck and he wants to be great

and he wants to what in his neck? Um shit what does that mean? I don't know but I've heard that before and it checks out on here You say, shit in his neck. Who's beeping that?

Cowboys. Oh, that's weird. They don't beep Shottie when he says shit, but they, I think Shottie dropped an F-bomb in the press conference this week, and they beeped it. So that's what I was wondering. Is he not? F in his neck? No, no, it's S. Is it a slur?

I've heard that before. Not personally from a coach again, but I have heard that saying in football. It's weird. I just had never heard that. I've got a shoddy thing, but I wanted to remind Dak is. falling maybe MVP he's excellent he's a great dude he's still lame and he still says this yeah he loves the game and he's strong um he's gonna win when it's man to man outside obviously we've given him the ball in the run game back to back weeks now and you've just watched how he's turned the edge

covered up the ball put his head down and and he turns into a running back you know and it's mad impressive uh he's still saying mad i don't like it mad impressive man Flanoi making hell of plays. Yep. He's unk. What can he say? He's so unc. Go ahead.

No, I'm going to move on. So go ahead. All right. Well, I'm going to move on to Shottie. I thought you had a comment about him being old. I have one more. Who's Stockton? Who's Malone?

Why don't you just leave us alone? You shouldn't have started with me. So this, I didn't start with you. He did. So there's been this thing going around about. What coaches are telling their quarterbacks in the helmet? I think Chase Daniel started this. Danucci got involved.

Lots of people did. So this is a thing. And Dak was asked about Shottie in the play calling. And again, Dak is lame. Shottie's lame. And I kind of hated hearing this. I'm even in my head says, say, let me get something going for you. Let me do a better job of calling plays.

And, you know, whether it was his fault or not when you're the quarterback, you're like, man, I appreciate that. You know, maybe it's not all on me and they weren't your play calls. It's just taking accountability and then, you know, he called the touchdown to GP. So, you know, and then he goes, hey, I'm back in my bag and I go, yeah, you are. I have no problems with that at all. All I hear is two guys locked in, although they may nightlight as youth pastors. It may be the lamest coach QB headset connection.

They may have a bed of train playing under. underneath it or like if you like pinia colladas or something you guys don't understand but they're cooking that shoddy is cool yeah shoddy is keeping DAC young as a matter of fact

and uh shoddy had a question or excuse me yeah it was talking in the press conference and is a lot hipper than you think you haven't caught plays in a while are you even surprising yourself at times about man this is working out the way I I thought it was because you haven't been

you never you never do that why would you ever do that then next week I come in you'd be like man you suck and I'll be like yeah you know my kids were laughing the other day they're like you know dad how'd you do and I was like

you know 6 7 6 7 whatever that thing means and they're like you know about that I'm like yeah I'm 51 I'm not 90 you know but no man listen you know me I just you know what's embarrassing

every single second of what you just played but it was super bad before he got to Urban Dictionary just he's doing an impression of me doing him yeah you know man you can't do that you know me played again the very beginning

you haven't called plays in a while are you even surprising yourself at times about man this is working out the way I thought it was because you never you never do that man why would you ever do that uh then next week I come in you'd be like man you suck I got a thing about the Cowboys here.

Do you think that we, because I think we're all feeling good right now. Like, I want the Cowboys to be good. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but it's good for our show. I want interest in the Cowboys. I want them to be in the playoffs. I would love them to go on a long playoff run. These Cowboys streams every other Sunday about, they're great. It's a lot of fun, and I love the way things.

are going with the Cowboys. But didn't we in the off-season say, don't do that, don't, let's take a look at this schedule. And we saw it playing out. We're like, they're going to get these wins early and they're going to, you're going to be feeling really good. But they're going to get smacked in the face later. But no, that's what I said.

You guys both said he would be fired by Thanksgiving. And I said, you have the wrong plot. You have to, I'm the one who knows as the fan. But I'm sucked in. I'm feeling good. You're feeling like everything's, this is going great. I think there's a pretty good chance they like lose three or four to end the year and don't make the playoffs. Like if it's not for Shane Steichen, I think we got a coach of the year on our hands here.

They may have a coordinator of the year. Oh, that's right. Staff is rated from Clayton Adams. Right. He's going to have another job next year. But to go fix someone's running game. Well, you're completely right. and we are way too excited

they also traded their best player like the week before the season and reset the bar to everyone just being like I don't even care anymore so even getting to where they are now with a new head coach with CD out and with trading Micah effing parsing

the main thing is that yeah Mike's not here that could help you right now not for really anything that could help you right now Kenny Clark's a nice player but that's like the 13th most important position on the field. They didn't get anything. They just basically told you

the owner got bad. Yeah, but they got more money to spend on the, we can keep this team together now. So my, but I think given that, it's okay to be like, you know. Hunter Lipke is today's Rathman. Yep. I didn't write an article at least.

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children of all ages. It is time for these pigs. That's right today. That's right. Every Thursday, we pick games, or cirque, I should call it, because the Soroy twins also. have adopted Danny Bayless when no one else would

we have a little audio issue right Blake what do we got going on I think Cash is just at Mazz Media Day having a blast hey Jake I want to hear more throw me in I want to hear more from code switching shoddy oh what's up man hey what's up bro what's good shoddy here we have Danny Bayless

We have Mike Soroy, we have Cash Soroy. I'm Phiddy. What's the match of the day, Mikey? What do we have going on in the background there? Is that the American Dream Dusty Roads? That's a commercial. No, no, no. This is just a 10-hour loop of Brett Hart.

Okay. Hell yeah. That's kind of my plan for the day. They had Dirk on their show, Blake. You did. What gives? It's Blake's fault. I don't know if their producer booked him or the host did.

We have the, we have Ryan from I-Butler. Yeah, we have Ryan from Eye Butler here. He makes glasses. Great glasses. Did you watch the Dirk thing? You guys see it? I'm about halfway. I'm about halfway through the whole episode.

But I did see some. I was a little disappointed. I was disappointed. They're talking fatherhood is great. It's just the softballs that the sorrows. Like, what are we doing here? Get this guy on the run. Have him answer some.

questions. I didn't hear a word about Gaza. Right, where does he stand on that? Does he support a ceasefire? Yeah, I think, I think it speaks volumes that they didn't ask if you know what I mean. No, it was super cool. I did ask

him if he would agree to being eight feet tall. Guaranteed one of his kids will win Wimbledon. And he's like, I'll stay at seven. What's going on here? What's going on with the audio?

Who are we blaming? It's Cash. Cash is sitting in a room with other people talking. What are we doing here? We're just getting a lot of background noise, my friend. All right. See you. Okay.

Or just cut the audio. On that note, I'll see you guys too. Bye, Danny. I'm just kidding. What's up? Do I redo my dirt joke or? Okay, no, we'll just move on. Yeah.

We're doing picks, man. I have an idea for a bet payoff. This would be hilarious. Imagine the loser has to do nothing. It's early, dude. Where do I sign? Mark that because, yeah, it is early. You never know what's going to happen.

But we are, the dumb zone is now 11 games ahead of Cirque de Soroy. You don't need to put that graphic up. As I look at the last week, Jesus. Again, look at the weekly picks. You've got to hit your triple play, man. Oh, thanks, Dan. That's what it's all about.

As I'm just looking at, anybody with a winning record week to week has hit their triple play. Jake went eight and two last week. That can be... Cash went seven and three. He hit his triple play. Over time, you can close ground, but this early... Oh, did I go seven and three? Oh, I barely hit that triple play.

The Browns, the Vikings beat the Browns by four. And in another pool I'm in, I lost because it was a four and a half point spread. But this one I won, three and a half. Vikings over the Browns. And then who else got the AAA? Oh, Cash. Cash and Jake. Anyway.

Cash two weeks he went one and nine, right? And he's still in dead last like by a decent amount. And he pulls one week where he goes, what, seven and three? and he was trying to call like a player's only meeting with all of us. He's in charge now. And freaking banging his fist. Like, Jesus. That's leadership.

That's leadership. Unless we forget, under the current proposed rules and regs here, the payoff would be being done by Blake, Danny, and Cash. Just what everyone wanted. So we're saying. Jake and Dan and Mike Soroy would be safe right now. Okay, so I'm not, I don't know, we've been talking about this. It just feels... This is the worst league of all time.

It just feels weird like we're teams, but then we're not teams in the end. I thought it was. Our whole operation, the crux of it is, we come up with something, and we're like, that is a good idea. And we're like, there's going to be pluses and minuses, pros and cons. And then we do it, knowing that, and then I start complaining about it. And the second the cons become available, it's like, why did we do this? Yeah. I'm like, I thought we

I thought we, yeah, you're right The whole, there's going to be a drawback We're getting a pro, we keep it competitive the whole way It was Blake's idea Was it your idea? Kind of Yeah So he'll have to stick with it

I love if we're a third of the way through the year We still don't really know what we're doing Yeah We're doing something now I mean it drives me effing insane Like Jake likes to have closure on things I like to just keep things hanging Yeah

You just never know You listen to this, okay? You never know what's going to happen. So, yeah, so let's see. What are the standings then? Just with us against each other, obviously the dumb zone beating Cirque de Soroy, but Jake is on top.

We have now picked how many games, guys? 30, 40, 50 games? And Jake has hit 32 of them. Is it 5 and 0 and triples? No, there's no way. Yeah, it says here you are. probably just four and one says here you're five and oh in the triple plays 32 and 18 overall Mike there is a way Mike Soroy is 26 and 24 that's me I am the average man

most people listen to this segment and this show and just any podcast because of me but they relate to me I'm just a guy who goes 25 and 25 who knows set your watch to it Danny at 21 and 29 Blake with 21 wins, 20 and 30, and then cash with 19. So very competitive down there at the bottom. Bottom. Can I ask a non-exact not exactly picks related question, but it's been burned in my head for a day? Because I didn't see your show yesterday, but the YouTube link basically just says,

Jake wants a bee beard. Yeah, so I don't remember. We had a story a few weeks ago. there was a guy a local guy made good he uh ran a bee removal company and they had to call him out to remove like 30,000 bees from some house where some guy's parents were living he went over there and was like you got bees up here you're going to die this guy got it done somebody sent it to him in the segment I said I'd love to I'd love to try the bee suit I would think you'd be a guy who'd like to try that too I'm iffy on it but the first thing I thought was that

should be another option for the ultimate loser of picks is you have to go get a B-beard. Yeah, not with the suit. Yeah, yeah. To be clear, I did not volunteer for the beard. The suit I did, and I think that'd be cool. The beard would be a very good payoff. If there were

three people having to sit there with the B-beard, I would, I think that's going to be tough to top in the game of payoff. That's the key. You have to just stay calm. That would be very good. And I would do it. Do they? would our B guy let us do that or no?

He definitely knows someone who can get you a B-beard by C-O-B. You talk about tune-in. I think that would do some numbers. Who knows? Hey, Jake, who is the original B-beard guy? I know James Hardin has a B-beard, but it was a Golden State player, right? Baron Davis. Barron Davis, yes.

Who at one point in the last five years was having sex with Laura Dern, I think, which is an unlikely Hollywood couple. Is that a fresh one? Yep. Fresh Kempspin? I have to look it up, but I think it was her. He was a movie guy, yeah. Was he bonner while he had the bees on his head?

Probably. Like maybe the ultimate loser dead last can either do the 24-hour stream or get out of it with a nice clean bee beer. Or the loser gets to fuck Laura Dern. And gets a million dollars. What are you taking? Bebeard's an interesting prospect.

And see if we had done it my way, Dan, and shut down conversation week one, we wouldn't have this fresh, innovative idea. There you go. A point for you. Thank you. Thank you. And your voice sounds really good now.

You're a day. It just took a while, right? You guys think he was a little raspy at the beginning of the show? From yelling at his kid? I didn't, but. I need somebody to support me. I'm not sleepy. See that sign?

You just yawned. You see that sign? He woke up at 3 a.m. What time are you getting up these days? Today was five. Oh, wow. How does that feel? Like, seriously, because you'll get up at 3.30, right?

Yes, sometimes. Like a maniac. A couple days a week. That's how I'm 32 and 18. Cap'n. That's right. All right, before we get to the PICs, let's at least mention that we are going to be not only facing the Soros in PICS every week, but Rivian has contracted us to get out to the State Fair this Saturday.

and face the sorrows in a battle of cornhole with the Rivian truck. So they have a front trunk in the awesome Rivian vehicles. They're electric vehicles, like luxury electric vehicles. In the front trunk, they have a cornhole thing fits right in there. And so we're going to play cornhole. It's the Rivian Cornhole Front Trunk Challenge. The game will kick off, I think, at noon. We'll be there from 11 to 1 at the truck zone at the fair,

the Rivian truck zone. I don't know. I actually don't know. Oh, okay. I was hoping someone else did it. Go to the state fair and look for us. Look for Rivian. Hey, Mike, we can expect the email of how to get in and where to go at about, I don't know,

1050. There might not be an email. You might choose your own adventure. It might be just show. I'd be careful. Figure out how to get there. How much are tickets? Yeah.

Well, they're less than the money that Rivian's going to pay you to be there. So it'll be easy to get in. It might be a break even. Come on out to the fair. You can meet Chappie. He'll be with me. You guys go on the game? We are.

We are. Isn't Rivian? There's like a website they want us to send people to you as well. Rivian.com slash big text, 11K. with the Texas made, handmade goodies. It's amazing. Yeah, it's some cool stuff. $8,000 pair of boots and like some crazy table that you've got to get on a wait list if you even wanted to order.

An $8,000 pair of boots? Yes. One pair of boots. $8,000 pair of custom boots that this guy has over a year long wait list for you to even have the pleasure. Graham Ebner Bootmaker. And they're giving that away? All right. Giving it away.

And who knows? Maybe we'll get a little. side bet going this weekend and a B-beard will be on display next week during Cakes. I'm in on B-beard. Someone has to have a B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B. Oh, by the way, guys, well, I'm telling on you and you're on my team. But Jake's practicing a cornhole. He borrowed my cornhole so he could practice at home. That's not legal as per the regulation. But the question is, are these guys, didn't you say, if anybody is prepping for this, it's

the sorrows. Prepping slash... Like, they're probably taking lessons. I promise you, Mike has played more cornhole than anyone else on this call combined. Because I can promise you, Danny is not practicing cornhole. And probably hasn't played much like me. Cash bought two Rivians for this. Parked him the exactest.

He built a replica. Like the rehearsal. He's got the midway behind it. Spare no expense. All right, so let's do some picks. We pick in the order of first to worst. That means if you are behind, then you could, like, take on that guy who's first.

Let's go against his triple play. You can make up a lot of ground that way, folks. So the order is Jake, Mikey, Dan, Danny, Blake, and then Cash. So, Jake, what do you have for this week? We must pick the cowboy game. with the odds that we have on our sheet the day we printed off, and it's Cowboys at Panthers, Cowboys minus three. They have to win by three on the road.

A tough place to play. The Panthers are kind of, they've been shown a little something lately. Right? Maybe Bryce Young is not failed. You haven't mentioned the Rico Dowdle Revenge game yet. Rico Dalto? Oh, Shottie laughed at that. He did?

In the press conference, like, oh, yeah, I heard he. Everyone laughed at that. Kenny Clark was like, okay. Well, he had like 200 yards rushing last year. I know, but then immediately he was like, they don't know what's coming. I was like, all right, I just kind of think they do. You'll probably get another 200.

So you have to at least pick the cowboy game and you have to pick your triple play, which could be anything. Okay. You out of here? Oh, okay, you're coming back. All right, it would make a lot of sense for me to keep triple playing the Cowboys.

I have full faith that we are still. still in the window where my confidence is more in line with the reality than the books. And we only have maybe two weeks of that left. But since I can sense that Dan thinks I'm mailing in this segment by triple playing the Cowboys every week. I am not triple

playing the Cowboys. I just want you to keep winning, baby. Hit that music we started the show with. Let's head out west, boys. How far out west? We're talking about Hawaii. We got a Saturday night matchup where the Rainbow Warriors are getting a point-and-half. They're looking to honor the late Colt Brennan. The Picks won. That show?

The one we started with, you idiot. He said the show. While also turning these Utah State Aggies into latter gay saints. The bow dubs are coming off of 44-35 win over Air Force, but the post-game win-expectancy model in that game said they actually should have lost it against the spread. The Aggies are 5-0 this season. Two-and-o is a one-and-a-half-point favorite or greater this year. We like this game, but the weird factor of Hawaii will be negated by the fact that half of Utah State's team is probably from Tonga.

So we're staying away from this one, and we'll look elsewhere. Roth. We're going to go over to Raiders, Titans. Right now, the Titans are getting four and a half points. What we like about this game, Cam Ward coming together, deep balls, big time. The Raiders super susceptible to the deep ball thus far this year. Gino Smith has struggled mightily. The Titans don't get a ton of pressure, but what they have gotten, they've gotten home large. Sacked pressure ratio is high, but we're not going with that fucking game. Good, good. I don't want you to do that. I thought he was about to put our future on the title.

Rolf! I'm just triple playing the Cowboys again. Yeah. Give me the Cowboys. Whipple. Beautiful. Now if I take Hawaii, Utah State is my extra game. I don't want to hear any bitching from my teammates.

No, no, no. I realize you've watched a lot of Utah State football this year. I know you're good for it. He was mad at Cash's Washington State pick. Yeah, San Diego State. It may be Washington State this week. I've seen the board. Yeah, Blake only wants us to pick games,

but he doesn't want us to read anything about the weather. You can read, but don't just type in a JetGPT. Give me the best pick of the week from a team I haven't seen play four years. Jet GPT, I pay $2.99 a month for this service, and you will respect. I'm writing it off on my taxes. Ooh. Hell yeah. Nice idea.

Thanks. Okay. Anyway, Mike, so Jake will just do two picks in one, the triple play and the cowboy game. Mike Soroy is up next. Thank you. We have, you know, that we're missing a game here

that we should have put on the table. 136 D1 teams exist. And this week, according to the ESPN power rankings, we have number 135 UMass against number 136 Kent State. Wow. we have the worst football game possible we may have to make a change what's the spreading sitting right there's got to be a pick him there's just an emoji of a guy shrugging where it says spread that's a great one wow the over under is six oh and five

one and four i think i'd be right there with jake one for these effing cowboys who i keep fading and they keep doing me wrong. But that said, let's do it one more time. Panthers plus three. You're right. I've never seen a look like I saw in the eyes of Tony Pollard. I saw him when he was looking at the schedule, and he saw what game is next.

It's a doubtle. You don't even have the right back. There's another guy. There's another guy that'll carve him up at some point if they play. But yeah, it's just another, I don't know. Malik Davis is probably somewhere. You don't have the right guy. it's okay though we know what you meant yeah they tore up the miami dolphin yeah who else has done

that yeah impossible uh so give me the panthers plus tray um uh triple and wild card we're taking USC minus two and a half they're playing michigan uh brice underwood underwhelming thus far this year in this handicapped or his eyes. And anything under three points, I think we of the sharp money are all over. So wild card and triple play is going to be USC minus 2.5, and we're taking Panthers plus three. Boy, I haven't put eyes on USC at all this year. Are they back or they just played bad teams?

It appears to be the latter. They're four and one though, but let's see what happens. We'll ask Jared tomorrow He's stoked on USC All right Up next is Oh me So for the cowboy game

Man I'm torn I really want to take The Panthers as well Because I go back and forth on the Cowboys I'm exactly like Jerry Jones as GM Like they'll do one thing this one week and I'll be on them and then the next week they do something so uh but i think jerry's a pretty successful guy over the long haul right you don't have his money a lot of money so let me

just keep going back and forth i'll go back to the cowboys now i'll take the cowboys to cover three i don't feel good about it though they're in this spot where they're really feeling great about themselves and i feel like this is a time they could get smacked in the face a noon game right Like in the narrative of the season, it would make more sense if they lose this one and then have a hard-fought eke-out win over the commanders. Oh, for sure. For sure. Way more sense.

But so like I said, I'm going cowboys. And then there's some tasty, tasty little morsels across the NFL, I think. I'm going to show you a couple of them. One is four-and-one San Francisco heading to four-and-one. Tampa Bay. San Francisco reeling injuries all over the place. They're coming off an emotional game that they didn't expect to win

at L.A. But they have had 10 days of rest then to face Baker. Baker's been the league MVP so far, but I just don't know where we are in the cycle. So I don't feel good

just going with Baker either. I don't feel good going with the Cowboys, same type of a thing. So I'm going to stay away from that, but I do like... What's the number again? Three. I do like Tampa by three there. I think I'm with you. Also, not necessarily tasty because of a huge spread, but tasty because of disarray in Cincinnati.

So they have traded for Joe Flacco. Flacko. Midweek. And they've named him their starter. Shut up. I didn't follow up on that story, for real. He will be starting this Sunday as they face the Green Bay Packers in the late game. Oh, no. This must be the Romo game, right?

Is this on most of the country? I would assume San Francisco, Tampa Bay. Let's see. Okay, yeah. That or that. So Green Bay coming off a buy. The Bengals just trade for a quarterback. Do you know the last time a quarterback joined a team midweek and started?

Baker Mayfield with the Rams. Baker Mayfield with the Rams. He was acquired on a Tuesday. I feel like I work at a Baker Mayfield Museum. They had a Thursday night game. I remember. He wasn't acquired like he was released by Carolina on a Tuesday, picked up by the Rams, started Thursday night, and won.

It was insane. I remember it quite well. Do you know who's not Baker Mayfield? Joe Flacco. I just think Joe Flacco is going to get swarmed, killed. I think, oh, here's another thing that's gone out on social media. Tell me Micah Parsons isn't aware of this little... Have you seen the thing?

There's been a picture, and it'll show a stat. It'll show solo tackles this year. Micah Parsons has four. wide receiver, Jamar Chase, has five. Wow. Okay. Tackling after interceptions. So Jamar Chase, the wide receiver, has more tackles than Micah Parsons this year. So I think he's going to be really motivated.

I think you might see Micah Parsons get three sacks this Sunday. Did you see, I did see a quote from him. No. He was just like, I hadn't had Fleco. He's like, I got to get one before. Hungry. I got to get him before he goes. Yeah.

He's collecting records. bodies like that. I'm looking at my flacko. But 14, man, that's really scary. So I'm not going to go with that. What I am going to go with, though, is I can't believe this weird scheduling quirk. And let's just go after the team that I won betting against last week.

So the Cleveland Browns, I don't even remember a team going to England and then playing the next week. unless they're playing in they always get the buy week after that so they had a road game then they went to England and they come back to play

in Pittsburgh is the rodeo in Cleveland or something Pittsburgh Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin coming off a buy have you ever seen anything like this like it just feels like this is totally set up

and they've traded Joe Flats So they're all in disarray. They don't even know is Shador, or are they calling up Bailey Zappi off the practice squad to be the backup? They haven't said yet. Anyway, Pittsburgh favored by five and a half. I know that's big for a division game, but the Brown's got to be whipped, man. Give me the Pittsburgh Steelers to win by five and a half this Sunday against the Cleveland Browns. God, I love it.

Triple play. Dan's going to give you four play. going to get you your nipples hard all of it before he's love it. So next up we have Danny Bayless. You live by the coin, you die by the coin.

Flipping a coin for these games can get you seven and three. It can also turn around and get you three and seven. That's how it works. I've come up with a new strategy this week for my triple play. First I will give you Dallas minus three. I'd like to take

the Cowboys to continue. their success this week for my triple play i printed off blake spreadsheet of all of the uh all of the games and i had my four-year-old wipe a booger somewhere on the prep on spreadsheet his little piece of snot landed on san diego state minus seven and a half over uh the nevada wolf pack yeah i'm Fripling San Diego State, the mighty Aztecs that have a smeared booger on their name on the spreadsheet. And I think I've got a great fucking chance. I don't know what I'm doing. Listen, I'll be watching Saturday night, the late night game.

Up next is Blake Jones. Who? Give me Six, seven I just do all the things the kids love Fennel Give me the Cowboys It's more fun to me when they win

The worm is turning over here now I know it's tough I may change this They're gonna lose because of this I may change this pick Based on how the charter gets out on time So I hold that in my back pocket For my triple I'm looking at

Three games that have Seven and a Half point spreads because they're all a good team versus a bad team. We've got the Rams playing at the Ravens. Which often happens with seven and a half point spread. But go ahead. I didn't interrupt you, so I'm going to plow forward. The Rams are playing at the Ravens where the spread is 13 and a half.

But it's a West Coast team headed east. I don't like that. Denver is playing at the Jets. Denver coming off a big win. The Jets stink at 0 and 5. But another West Coast team headed east. I'm going to stay away from that. But let's go to tonight, where the Eagles are pissed.

They lost their first game of the season last week to the Broncos. They had a lead. They had a 17 to 3 lead in that one. They let it go. They're playing the Giants who are just full of themselves after they beat the Saints. One in four, are you kidding me? Give me the Eagles, minus seven and a half. Let's get it over with tonight.

Give me a 3-0 start for the week. I like it. Whipple, quipple. Good job, Blake. Good pick. Good pick. The Eagles never play down to their competition and end up with close wins. Sequin is mad.

It's Sequin versus New York still. I love it. I was going to take it. Give me 206 touchdowns for Seekwon tonight. I like the idea of just knowing by Friday morning, too. Let's get it out of the way. Yeah. All right.

And Cash-Sheroy, we'll have to. I got his if you want him. All right. Let's see. We've got Cash. Can I tell you what I think he's going to pick? Yeah, sure. So let's do Cowboys first.

What does GROC say? On Cowboys, he will take... The NFL ones are way harder because the margins are smaller. He'll take the Panthers. He took the Cowboys minus three. Okay. And what do you think he's taking for his trip? Mississippi State Game.

Tell me if it's college or pro. It's college. It's either Hawaii, Georgia Southern, or Colorado State. Why, you've been looking at like the money versus the whatever? You tell me. those are fine guesses Jake but no win for you damn cash hopes to get a win by choosing

the Toledo rockets minus 10 and a half over the bowling green falcons dude I'm gonna be so locked in ESPN 19 Saturday at 11th Saturday at 11 a.m. Well that is very much

against the services advice Blake so you're gonna have to live with it If we're fading the things we pay for, you can't get mad. That was a lot of fun, guys. Your pick made me look at this stat up. Jalen Hertz 1, 8 and 1 against the spread, and his last 10 has a 7-point favorite. Here's your invitation to triple the Giants, Mike. Oh!

A challenge coin. We at the top of the table. Don't react to the... Well, thanks to the Soroy's. Yes, CERC-Doo-Soroy. Tune in to them tomorrow. Tonight, tonight. Sorry.

Tonight, eight o'clock. Tune in tonight on YouTube. Be Be Be beard. Do, Siroy. Love it. And we'll see you out at the State Fair on Saturday at the Rivian set up, correct? Hell yeah. Walk around until you find it.

That's right. Just go to the State Fair. And we'll be there. We promise. Later, boys. All right. Bye. The NFL will, I don't know if it's like 100%, but a team can request if they want the buy or not.

Like most of them take it after international, but you can say no. And apparently the other times this has happened, like the Colts did it in 2016 because they didn't want to buy that early in the season. Which it looks like it was this week. Well, the Browns usually make really sound good decisions. They may have literally waved off a buy. Like, yeah, we're strong. point, why would we want to buy? I'd love to come back home and play Pittsburgh.

They're usually kind of in disarray, so. Yeah. That's great. You know what else is great? I would think it was changing out all your doors and your home in 24 hours, way less than 24 hours, actually. They're not going to be at your house that whole time. It's like one regular day.

Mm-hmm. Right? They'll change out all the doors. It's one-day doors and closets. One-day, Texas.com. slash promo 30. That is a deal that they still have running for you where you can buy one door,

get one door free. Fully finished. They come out and they just, they measure your situation. They've got 3D measuring technology. They make the door right there on site from the digital blueprint. It's like a little piece of artwork

in your house. Maybe you haven't looked at your doors in a long time. They probably suck. That's why you haven't looked at them. But people will be coming over to your house and they're like, did you guys move or are these just new doors?

That would be a weird thing to be confused about. What you'd have to do is you get like real pretentious and stuff and you have a little plate of hors d'oeuvres and maybe a glass of wine and you walk from door to door and then you comment, oh, I believe this one is... Right. You put on one of those little eyeglass things. Yeah, like, oh, wow.

That's what people are going to be doing at your house when you get new doors from one-day doors and closets, because they also do closets if we didn't say that. One-day, Texas.com, slash promo 30. The phone number over there is 940, 969-4790. Oh, yeah, wait a minute. Time for viewer mail, right?

Yeah. Where's the run sheet? Oh, Mike Palucci's at one. So about 20 minutes away, we got Mike Palucci talk about his article in D Magazine. And just to talk about Dirk, right? Mm-hmm. When's a bad time to talk about Dirk?

Well, it does make me think of Luca. Luca was on Hot Ones today. It was sent to me many times, and I probably won't watch it. Probably won't watch it. Yeah, I can't look at that. I don't care. I don't... Anthony David, all right?

Like, I hated him before he was a MAV. Like, I'm not going to now like him. Like, I didn't like his game. I don't like anything about him. He's a dork. Oh, I got some snail mail, actually. actually to the den. I can lead off with that.

This is literal viewer mail. Who states that October 10th is my birthday. Now, that's this weekend. But I didn't want to do this tomorrow because he had sent a little gift. This is from Chris. And his leaders are Dan, Jake's sobriety,

and Blake's grandfather's Euthanasia baseball bat. Whoa. What did he kill? His dog. With a bat. Yeah. With an Easton.

Probably an Easton. A green Easton. He probably thought that the veterinary world was rushing in behind him to follow that trend. He's like, oh, okay. So this is Chris. He's turning 50. If you ever need an expert on drones, photography, or 3D printing, hit me up. Oh, he wants a birthday shout-out to his Instagram profile at Flashback Media Works.

You would like fellow D.Fs who would give me a follow and a look. Anyway, he gave us this, a Dr. Laura mug. That's fantastic. Go take on the day. He says, I can't recall if there are any coffee drinkers on the show, but if not, it does hold other things such as tea and pencils. My hope is that it will grace the Dragon Day. or the Game Day Men's Health Studio for years to come. All right.

Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Chris. This was sent to us many, many times, and people did it in a mean, mocking manner. Dan brought up Red Zone the other day, and apparently there's a thing on NFL Network where they just kind of do bounce around the leagues, and that's the league, and that's what Steve Smith is on.

It's not real red zone Because I was really confused Oh because it said red zone It was on the plane I was watching the plane And I think they have a free version Where they maybe don't show as many cut-ins or something But I'm recording it now

Okay I should too I should so it's free on YouTube Yes YouTube TV Yeah you can just record NFL network During the Sunday Dude Steve Smith's funny I've always loved it

And that's where they're hiding him Thank you to Grizzled McGrisley For sending that along That's not someone's name. Some debates on the hot water, brushing your teeth in the shower. I was told many times this is disgusting. Why? Apparently just doing it with shower water, and I'm like, what are you guys doing it with?

No, I don't mind that. I used to keep a toothbrush in there. The main thing people, and I look this up, is, and I don't think I often do this, but leaving the toothbrush in the shower is not good. So, like, bacteria-wise, that is strong. Anna Kay, I changed my game after Anna Kay was at the den. And she couldn't believe I left my toothbrush in the bathroom. Right.

Just where other people, you know, people visit the den and they go to the bathroom in there. My toothbrush is just in there, like, and poo particles could raise in the air and just farting on it. Yeah. It's attached themselves to it. So I have, I threw that toothbrush away and I now keep a bathroom or a toothbrush in a drawer. now can I if it had just been you in the den would it bother you like that's no I don't think so your own poop particles are okay right that's that's just regenerating life it just goes out of me and then back into me and out back in I'll buy I'll buy it

that's why you can drink your own urine but not someone else's so I'll recommend that these are things for regular people like I'm giving you I because I don't care but keeping your toothbrush in the shower is highly frowning upon. However, I recently my wife bought the like it's either battery powered or you charge it. It's an electric water pick

and it effing rules. You just, I mean you got to fill it up with water each time but once you turn that bad boy on. My wife has one of those. I mean, I know you're a big floss guy and maybe you still do both but I'm not big floss guy and you run that thing

that you're mouth like after brushing what you see in your sink is disgusting. And that is, I just do with shower water. My wife got one, used it, like, every day for a month and then hasn't used it in five years. Well, my wife got it because she got braces. So that was why it was introduced, but now it's sitting there, so I use it. So she did the thing you wanted her to do? Did she also put in pigtails?

Yeah, no. Like, don't you have her wear that little, we bought a whole Girl Scout uniform? Yep, yep. Do they all knock on the door? Oh, this week, kids are out of town? A little cosplay, little role play. Right. I'm a coach.

Come on in. I'll look for my checkbook and I'll buy some cookies from you. Jesus, that's specific. I'll sponsor your magazine drive. Come on in. Just wait in the van. Wait in the back. I ever dress like I ever put her hair up and dress like a door-to-door Mormon.

Like a little cute boy in jeans and a nice white shirt. Then she used to have her dress up in like the suit and the bow tie. Like the, what is that, the Nation of Islam? Yeah, I have her dress like Brother Mazone. Yeah, yeah. A little pistol. Subject line, tell Jake to get off your ass. Wrong day.

Dermatologists are signing the alarm. from showering every day, maybe doing more harm than good. Our skin naturally produces protective oils and is home to beneficial bacteria that guard against dryness, irritation, and infection. Daily showers, especially with hot water and harsh soaps, strip away those defenses, leaving skin more valuable, or vulnerable, sorry. Anyway, this is a research project from Harvard Medical School. Hmm.

Woke. You ever hear of that? Yeah, I did. Anyway, they just say, showering every two to three days, you have much healthier, stronger skin than daily bathers. And look at this.

Look at how strong that skin is. Dude, that derm is tight. Yeah. I think it's, I believe it, but I'm not going to change my routine because if I didn't shower every day, I would smell terrible.

I smell right now. So you fall into this. It says, of course, there are exceptions. Athletes? No. Bing. No.

Those living in hot climates, Bing. And people expose. to heavy pollution and that's when we will fart on you in the den. So you may need to shower more. Yeah, I buy

it. But I'm not an athlete. I buy that it's probably I just sit in air conditioning. Big water or big shampoo or big whatever. It's probably too much. But I would smell bad. Angelo still has hair, yeah? No.

Okay, well, counterpoint. Angelou's bald? because Dan would always do the Adam Carolla thing of you don't see a whole lot of homeless guys with no hair. Yeah, which would indicate that... No, he's got like a little on the sides, but yeah, he's mainly bald up top. Yeah, you don't see a lot of bald homeless guys.

No, it's a chill life, I guess. No, I think the showering thing probably, shampoo has something to do with it. Subject line, Greg Luganis. I meant to send this a couple weeks ago around his birthday, but do you remember the 19th, 1997 made-for-TV movie about Greg Luganis called, quote, Breaking the Surface, starring Mario Lopez.

This is basically how I learned about HIV and what being gay meant. Anyway, there's an IMDB page and the opening sequence on YouTube, which I rewatched just a moment ago. It's wild. It has the N-word and the R-word in the first couple of minutes. What? From John. What? So I've never heard of this.

I do not remember it. However, I will be reviewing this very soon. In fact, maybe this weekend will be a nice time to watch. You said the title again was what? Breaking the Surface. Okay. A made-for-TV movie about Greg Luganis. Okay.

Probably a lot of people in the same boat. I learned what HIV was from the Magic Johnson story. when I was, that's how it had to be explained to me. Now, that didn't enter homosexuality talk or anything like that. But I understand that he was a diver breaking the surface, right? Are you saying this is a double on Tom? I don't feel like you name a movie about potential gay sex as breaking the surface. Piercing the Starfish.

I feel like that would have been a little too on the proverbial nose. But, yeah, I think that could have... Taming the bear. I got one football related here from Garrett. Hello, funny, female anatomy double entendre man and Jake. Much like Jake, I'm tormented on a weekly basis by the tush push and how it completely flips the scales to the Eagles advantage. So the question is, how could it be stopped?

They have a nearly 90% success rate running the play. It is unstoppable by conventional methods. The only way to stop this is to make them. not want to run it. My suggestion is whenever the Eagles line up for it, you should intentionally jump off sides, hit the O line as hard as they possibly can, just take the five-yard penalty. They were likely going to convert it anyways and hope that your team can make it so annoying that the Eagles, or maybe you cause an injury, will no longer line up to run the play. The defense should forfeit the first down in favor of perhaps delivering enough

punishment to make the Eagles stop with this nonsense. And I think they would probably hit you with 15. Yeah. And then they'd probably kick you out of the game. Yeah. And they'd hit you with another 15, which is very frustrating because there are other parts of football that the danger of it does negate the value or the propensity of running the play. Like, you don't think it's a shock that right now, the middle of the field being the most

like fruitful part of the passing game, it's because you can't decleap people anymore. So there have been times where a physical determination. turn it in the game has kept people from trying certain things. And this would be different because it's pre-snap. But it's an option. It's kind of like the Seahawks, right? It was Dan Quinn Seahawks that they would interfere on every play. Yeah, and eventually you're going to have to...

You'll call it, but you're not going to call it enough. Right. You're going to just mug Camp Chinchrist. I was going to mug somebody every play. Wasn't that a Belichick thing with the... Greatest show on turf, how he first beat them in the Super Bowl? Yeah, I think it was just, we're going to be really, really physical. They can't call them all.

Yeah. No, it sucks. It sucks, too, because I like the Tush Push. Everything I like happens up there. It sucks. They figured out football, their fans are better. The Sixers won like three or four titles with Sam Hinkie in the process. No.

Not yet. Didn't you have a bet on that? Move on. Okay. I got a couple One just in From our buddy Rob Schindler Who says as a member of the American Airlines team

And member of the triple seven fleet training team I was mortified to hear that the Wi-Fi on the fleet is subpar I will look into this matter personally I'm disappointed to know that Blake and America's team Do not have superior Wi-Fi capabilities at 40,000 feet Thank you for bringing this to our attention So maybe we'll get the Wi-Fi fix for the Dallas Cowboys You know people at Big Plain.

We do. That's incredible. The idea of the Cowboys not having Wi-Fi, like we're going to talk to Palucci about the Dirk article. The idea that Dirk goes on the road and has to stay at like a Best Western, if he's in a... That just drives me... I don't know what the other option is, but it shouldn't be that.

Shottie needs Wi-Fi. And then we have a long-term running bit about 9-11 memorials and where they are and how random they are. Well, apparently Denton has one. I have not been to. I have not seen. Oh, no. That's not real.

Decorate next to it. Really? You can't put the Staypuff marshmallow man next to it. Downtown Denton has begun... The Staypuff marshmallow man is as tall as the 9-11. Downtown Denton has begun decorating for Halloween, and yes, they put a giant Michelin Man-looking thing. No, it's from...

You've not seen the Ghostbusters movies, I gather? I only watch the female one. Yeah, because you support women. Right. Right. And it's funnier. They're funny. Get over it.

I love both of them equally. For a long time, I love two the most. And this is from the movie. This is from the Ghostbusters. That makes it a little bit better. And he's huge. But yeah, he's right next to the Twin Tower Memorial and he's just this tall. And it looks ridiculous.

And we had a listener. Smiling at it. That's not good. He, I guess, hopped. No, he didn't hop. Oh, no. He just took his picture next to it. It's right behind the sign.

It says 9-11 Firefighter Memorial, a memorial bell tower. Yep. With the Ghostbuster Man right there. So if you're in Dittin to watch Mean Green Place South Florida, I want you swing by the 9-11 Memorial. Has Bin Laden ever been a costume? Oh, yeah, dude. So you think an inflatable bin Laden would be better there?

Oh, yeah, better in some ways, I'm sure. Wow, I was not expecting that. I got a couple of gummy thoughts. for you here. Are they on the docket today by any chance? I actually don't think so. Okay, we'll go get some early bird. Yeah, we're pro early bird CBD. So I take a lot of, you guys know this, I take crazy people medication.

So I got to go pick up meds like every month, three different ones. And I'm sure you've thought about this before. It's like a very, what's the deal? Why do we have generic pharmaceuticals? Like, when I go to the store, I know that there are some generics that are, like, as good, even though they're cheaper. Obviously, we talk about, like, H.E.B., some of the little pockets. But in general, when you, big toilet paper guy, and you know that the generics suck. That's why I won't buy generic drugs.

And this is an argument I get in with my wife because she always buys the generic. And I'm like, yeah, but if you get generic toilet paper, if you get generic paper towels, are they not significantly worse than bounty? that option shouldn't exist in medicine though right but she's like no but it's all the same ingredients my doctor says it's the exact same and i'm like okay i kind of believe that but they legally have to make them the same they have to make the active compounds the same what does that mean there's a bunch of other junkin like the binders the fillers which may change the way it looks which to me i'm putting it in my body so i would think they still matter but they say those don't matter so we make them cheaper and I'm like you know it seems I don't buy generics of things I care about the quality cereal peanut butter soda is a good one you ever drink uh cola bro I grew up Dr. Thunder so hard Dr. Thunder's great but yeah in general you're right there's a drink called Dr. Thunder oh they're used to yeah is it fake Dr. Pepper it's Sam's Mountain Lightning was

like I wouldn't even drink Mr. Pibb Mountain Lightning What? Mr. Pib was the answer to Dr. Pepper. Dude, this guy. We go to his house in Cleveland. It's on like a corner lot. It's a big house. Now he's telling us he didn't drink Mr. Pib.

What? Just a giant stump in the backyard just reeks of Mr. Pib. I can't believe he didn't like Mr. Pib. I don't know what that is. I consider Mr. Pib to be generic. What? Like it wasn't Dr. Pepper. I thought it was.

I like it. It was bougie. See, what I'm saying is Walmart and Sam's had a whole line of sodas called like poopsie. Like, they had knockoff, doctor something, mountain something. I just remember they had cola, and we bought a case of it in college because it was like, what? But it's...

Four cents per can? These are all valid cultural conversations. They shouldn't apply to cancer medicine. Right. Like, you don't need, like, doctor... I don't know. You're not going to intercept cancer by taking shortcuts. It's a good point.

I have one on Mark Sanchez. Oh, fun. From West. Since he's back in the news, I recall that Mark Sanchez appeared on The Masked Singer. Okay. Along with... Not only did he sing,

but he wore a full spaceship costume and controlled a baby alien puppet. He claimed that he has always been interested in puppets. What a weird claim. It's the weirdest shit ever. Look it up. and yes I used to watch the masked singer with my ex-wife from Wes there's a lot of sadness in that sentence

but the mass singer is a trip dude it's the most acid trip show that we have obviously like a lot of them came from Asia I've never watched it but I have enjoyed your report like when the the girl that was kidnapped or something turned out to be the mass singer Elizabeth Smart was on there look at her now folks the whole crowd is cheering like they all recognize her it was really weird

and it you know much like erin andgers she would never have been on that show if she didn't like she kind of has to thank this yeah old couple that kidnapped her right look at the fame she has the fame and fortune they're in the crowd she just had to go through a few years like it's morey of beatings and brutal brutal rapes right you didn't have to dial it up This is my last one. Greetings, Mr. Sex with Twots in Sox Man. Writing to you from Nola, I'm getting married tomorrow. I hope to get a shout out Thursday,

as I always stay one day behind listening to the pod. Yesterday I'm traveling to DFW from my home in San Angelo when I pulled over to my usual place to go number two at a loves travel stop. The entire bathroom is empty, so I proceeded to do the usual check. of each stall for cleanliness. I go down the line.

Every non-handicapped stall has water everywhere, toilet paper, all, et cetera. I thought to myself, what would Dan do? So I chose the handicapped stall, which of course was spotless and pristine. About two seconds after sitting down when the first prairie dog hit, I hear a gentleman come wheeling over.

It's an indistinguishable sound. He stopped at my stall and saw it. was in use and then decided to choose the stall next to me as he struggled to get his roller in the tiny confines. Why wouldn't he just wait? Of his little baby stall. What are the odds? I quickly finished knowing I could not allow him to see my non-handicap self exit the room and deal with this Larry David situation. My leaders are Jake being wind-rivered on an airplane and established the run. That's the movie. More machine, more machine, more Jimmy, less Lawrence.

Friday, I will attempt my first 10-second socks-moosing in celebration of my nuptials. Wish me luck. If you ever need advice on the trash business, I am your guy. Stay hard, never punt from Luke. Good for him. Good for him. We can make that an ender. Well, then we shall.

All right. That's the other next. Mike Palucci of D Magazine. You're listening to the Dumbzone. So I don't know if Kukla did this on purpose. Have I been at Fox before with my bathroom rating? Yeah. Have we done that?

I think so. You know, I like to rate the bathrooms. based on how much soap that little thing will give you, whether it's an automatic, whatever, and really the hand towel, the paper towel. If you have a paper towel, first of all, you've got to have a paper towel. If you just have an air dryer,

you're going to go down a letter grade in my ranking. Yeah, I'd love to know if the air dryer is actually helping. Like help. It's just blowing the water around. I just don't know. What I'm saying is all these things that are like, hey, we do this because it's better for the environment. Oh, yeah.

I don't know. It's a machine, right? It's got to run some. Anyways. Anyway, I think one of the times we were doing this, the show at our Game Day Men's Health Studios, which is in the Fox 4 building in downtown Dallas. I've mentioned the bathroom in there having a very subpar, like a very tiny, you can change the setting on the automatic paper towel dispenser. So they had one that was giving you about three inches. That's what she said. So they've obviously they're listening because look at this thing.

Wow, that is a freaking two, three footer, two foot, at least two foot. Wow. So you just took one? You only need one. I only had to take one instead of seven. Wow, dude. Look at him just moving the universe how he wants it. Yeah, this is like a, take this to the beach and lay on it.

Now let me ask you this. It's enabling him. This is not good. Okay. You want him on your team, though. You want him on your team. I create change. I see a problem and I change.

That might be the highest quality paper towel from a dispenser I've ever seen, and it's still pretty generic. Why don't, why don't it? Why not bounty in a thing? Try it. Go above and beyond. Make it a destination bathroom. That'd be great. I agree.

What if I could get one for the den? Like would we want a paper towel dispenser in the den? You know I have my little. We're about to have a bidet in there. What does that mean? We got a deal. coming up. We got a hook up? Yeah. All right.

We're going to welcome Mike Pellucci in here in a second. First of all, though, we can tell Mike about this. This is Mike Pallucci from D Magazine. Hey, hey. Sports editor or editor? What are you? We were arguing before. You know, it's a editor, Tim Rogers' editor, which is a pretty, it's one of those you have confidence to just have that as your title. Would you have that much power? Earlier, I said to Jake, you're the editor, and Jake's like, there's no way he could ever be the editor. I can't be the editor?

Wow. Yeah, he just said, you're just, talent-wise, he just said, I don't see it. He doesn't listen to our show enough to know. And this is technically the only boss I, the only boss I have anymore. So. Besides Blake.

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Where they will hook you up. Fairlees Navidad. So Mike Palucci I think he could be the I think he should be the editor of D Magazine I think he has what it takes

I don't know why Jake doesn't Jake is like I can't even believe he's a writer. Has the right stuff but wrote this article Dirk is Anchorman it is the cover story for D Magazine

and it is about Dirk Novitsky I actually I've never done this before, but I listened to the article. How was that for you? It's not a short article. I didn't like it because the lady, it was like an AI lady, and she was mispronouncing some words. And I thought, I want to hear Mike Palucci read this article. We actually, the great Mike, the machine marshal, now my co-worker slash pal at D Magazine.

I think he was saying we've got to start actually recording our own story. So I will do that next time for whatever the next story is. So, yeah, sorry. Sorry, they treated you to the lady who's mispronouncing stuff. What words was she mispronouncing? No, I mean, it was very hot. I enjoyed listening to her read it. You're writing about Dirk.

I doubt she's nailing Holger. Yeah, just a couple little things. That's all. That's what we went. Can I tell you why I like. I agree just, though. I like the listen to the article thing, because I don't think I'm for a guy who works in this field, a great reader.

But then it says this is going to take like 37 minutes. or even when it says it's going to take. It says nine minutes. What if I go for a walk and I listen to it? Yeah, but if I read it in less, then I'm like, I'm smart. I beat the expectations, but it's a great piece. Dirk is Anchorman. What happens when Dallas's biggest sports hero gets a desk job? And it is about Dirk really getting the gig for is it. It's the NBA studio show on Amazon.

Yeah, he's doing studio. They got a whole group of them that are doing play-by-play. like Dwayne Wade's doing play-by-play. Dirk, not doing the play-by-play, doing the studio, being at the desk, being the anchor man, which is why we convinced him. It wasn't much of a convincing. We just asked,

would you want to dress up as Ron Burgundy? And he was pretty down because he's pretty much the best. He really is. That was a weird one. When the magazine came in, and first of all, these pictures are so cool.

Certainly you've seen a lot of people being like, what is this AI? Oh, dude, everywhere. Yeah. it's an annoying part of life now that if you do something really well yeah yeah like they got this perfect and everyone's like a i but my wife some sort of sports fan was like um doing the math in her head and she's like does dirk know anchorman and i tried to explain to her that in a weird way so anchorman was oh four dirk is 99 in a weird way dirk might be like more culturally aware

than a lot of Americans on stuff like this because he lived in a locker room and those guys are quoting movies all the time you know it's not like he went to work at Microsoft when he moved here like he was forever in youth culture and I'm like he definitely loves anchorman I would assume he was very aware he was aware he hadn't seen it in a long time

so there's a lot of stuff like they're you know I think like the stay classy part he knew but like when we did the the shoot we were running video too and so I'm feeding him Anchorman lines. And there were definitely ones that are bigger ones that he was just laughing. He's like, this is ridiculous. I'm like, all right, so you forgot the movie, which is fair, because, you know, he probably saw it like

once, like, 20 years ago, and he's moved on. But he knows it exists. He didn't like completely go, like, what is this? So you had him over for a photo shoot? Yeah. Or you went to his place? No, we did not go to the Dirk Dome. What would the Dirk Mansion,

the Dirk Chateau? No, we went to a little studio off of Stemmins and basically the timing was weird because he goes to Europe every summer for like months and so in your magazine business is the October cover things really got to be done and written and put together by mid to late August so what happened was this whole process really started the news leaked in December he was doing Amazon and I texted Scott Tomlin who is Dirk's kind of right-hand man used to run PR for the Mavs best PR dude in town and I was like is he is would he talk for something like this um and basically he was like yeah possibly

but let's talk when this is official so uh basically in january the whole process really gets going and i kind of asked it was like look like what i want to do with this because the question that i had when i saw do tv is like i don't know if you guys you know think about this i my first thought is like i remember 19 year old dirk and a dude who was just miserable trying to speak the english language and almost went back to Germany. And if you told that dude that his career would go so well, he didn't have to do anything at all, right? He could just keep traveling the world like he's been doing. And instead, he chooses to work a job speaking English to millions of people around the world every single week, seven months out of the year. Like, how do we get from point A to point B?

And so it's really a communication story in a lot of ways, along with just a, you know, this guy has been here the last six years. I feel like he kind of hides in plain sight. Like, we'd always year you see him pop up for the big things right you know the jersey retirement the statue the hall of fame you know he's got a big charity events certain times of the year but like i just want and i was like what's he been doing what's he up to uh so they liked that idea and that got the ball rolling to where we sat down in april to had the first conversation and then really a couple weeks later we hit we were basically even one day in may that would work for him between all the traveling he's doing before we went to europe for the summer and so we went and we got j lombardo

to design him a suit that basically is recreating the look that Will Ferrell wore for the cover in the movie. And then we did a whole second set where we recreated the Jazz Club and bought a jazz flute from Amazon and just told him to go nuts on that thing. And he did that too. And yeah, man, it was a great time. I found out afterwards, Scott had told me when I ran this by him at first. And I was like, we want to be Anchorman. What would you think? And they basically were like, yeah, we could do that.

And I guess kind of thinking like this could get real, can't be in a hurry. But we work with ridiculously good art folks as evidenced by the fact that people think their work is AI. And they built out sets. So they had everything ready to roll so that when he got in there, like the shoot was even faster than what he budgeted time for. And he had a great time. And then he got a big kick out of the whole deal. I think thinking about him when he first learned English or was very hesitant to speak in English is really interesting. But it extended further than that to this isn't even a language barrier.

thing but if you think about going to the back when it was apparent they were going to win the finals I know that was a lot of emotion but in general it's not just the language barrier it's the shunning of the limelight that is weird for me

I've just never thought Dirk would be a guy who you know if it comes up he'll give you the best three minute analysis on what's happening in the league but he's not going to say hey people need to hear from me I've never thought of him as that type of guy and that's the part that's really interesting to me and it seems like to me first

of all it seems like he's arrived at nirvana like he can do anything you want and his life right now purely is what can i challenge myself with and get better at and this is the next thing and um even though it doesn't seem like something he would naturally do it does because it's just trying something hard and getting better at it which is his whole bit i think this is a bad fit, though. Amazon? Studio Dirk. I think he'd be an outstanding analyst.

In game? But I think Dirk doesn't want to travel, probably with, he wouldn't want that announcer. And I don't know what you guys think. Well, I don't know yet. I just feel like, Dirk is the nicest guy ever. And that's not a good studio analyst. I don't know if that's a great analyst on a game either, though, right? Because like in your article, he is saying out loud, I'm kind of glad I wasn't there when the Luca trade went down.

Right, yeah. That's when we need you especially. I need hot opinions about that. I don't need him just to be take guy because take guy exists. You've seen it, what, Kendrick Perkins or something, like guy that gets on TV and I got to now, I got to try to rile people up to prove I'm not going to be. a guy that just loves all the players. Like Barclay is take guy, but he also can love the players. I don't know.

Shaq, very, you know, funny and we'll bust balls. And I just don't feel like Dirk is the studio analyst guy. Because I want to, to this day, I want him to tell me what he truly thinks about this asshole, Nico Harrison, and screwing up my team and my love for the end. in general. That has ruined it. And I think it's hurt a lot of people in DFW. And Dirk, though, is good guy, great guy. And I don't, I think he hates him, and I think he, but he won't say it. He obviously, you pointed out in your article, he, the only games he went to were the Luca games after the trade. Like, he, he doesn't support this Mavs, but he can't say that because

he's Dirk. And, but I think he could break down the NBA. incredibly. And that's where I think the Amazon people have miscast him. And they're putting him in a studio where he just might not offer the takes. That's my take. I'm a take guy. I think they're going to do a show that they, I think from talking to him and talking to Nash and talking to other Amazon people, because Nash is doing this with them, I think they see it as an advantage. And I don't think they're wrong about this. You look at NFL media, right? You watch an NFL studio show. The people who are doing this like the product and are smart about the product. You watch NBA shows, it's not all this way, but I mean, what's the stuff that's going viral all the time?

People talking about this era sucks or that dude couldn't play when I played or all the stuff. And I think they see their advantage as, can we make a fun show that's smart and is positive about the game? And if you look at it, whether or not that's what everybody wants to watch, we'll find out, right? But if that's what you're going for, that's his sweet. sweet spot because he's going to be smart and he's going to naturally be optimistic about it and you put him on a desk with Blake Griffin who he likes it who is funny and you put Nash on there a bunch of a bunch of the time with him and you can see you know the stuff that they do on the inside of the NBA where they have the gags and you could just tell dudes who like each other

talking ball that's what this is going to be so yeah when the lucca trade goes down and we need to hear Dirk drop the hammer is Girk Dirk going to I mean I think he himself is he views that as the big challenge right he's not a naturally critical person and we talked about that But probably 90% of the time for what they need him to do, I think they're building a type of platform that is like super suited to his sensibilities because that's not, it's not the only network he talked to. NBC talked to him too. He didn't really vibe with them. I really got the vibe with this thing. If he didn't like all the people as much as he did, that as much as anything is why he's doing this. That and Jake's point about like pushing himself. You know, Devin Harris is

his old buddy who does TV with the Mavs now. And Devin was adamant. Devin's like, this whole thing is just a personal challenge from him to himself to be more extroverted. And what I do told Dirk that. He was like, yeah, there's something to it. Yeah, that's a good point. And I do think you're right when you put, if he knows Blake Griffin, I didn't know that they're buddies at all. Well, he does. And of course, Nash, you can't, it's difficult to fake chemistry. So to put him with some people he already has some chemistry with will help a lot. And if that's the angle they're going for, the Amazon people, that's not a bad angle because

in our minds, we're going to put everything up against inside the NBA. And so if you're like, we're not trying to be that, that's probably better. Because ESPN has been trying to be that forever and eventually they just had to go buy them. And, you know, there's a spectrum of take artists, right? Like I would say, not that necessarily you and I are the best or anything, but we're different than some other things, right? There's a level of thoughtfulness to the ticket that doesn't exist on some other take. You know what I mean? There's a spectrum here.

So maybe it is a 90% 10% thing, but I like Blake Griffin a lot. I didn't really think about him too much during his playing career, but as I've said on the show a couple times, I've heard him on podcasts that I listen to in the last. He was on Stavi show like two weeks ago, and he was funny, like actually funny. And I think Dirk could hold his own on that front too.

I got very, I don't know, emotional might not be the right word, but thinking like Nash telling Mike like, we're coming in as rookies together. Like we're doing this together. Just put me back in that place of your youth. And if anything is going to work for Dirk in this space, I think it would be with Steve Nash and with a whole new thing that there's nothing to compare it to necessarily.

He's not replacing anybody. Yeah, no, and that was a big deal. I don't think he would go into somebody else's chair. He likes the idea of it kind of being a startup. He likes the fact that, you know, you guys make a show. You know how it is. Like the stuff people see on air is a fraction of the time you spend with people. And I think everybody who does TV, if you're an athlete, it's kind of, nobody's replaced in the locker room.

But that's one of the ways that what are you really doing? It's all these unseen hours with people you care about making something bigger than yourself together. And I think he really embraces that aspect of this thing too. And he's flat out said, he's like, look, like if I didn't like these people and if I didn't vibe with them, not just the talent on air, but all the production people that I've met and the suits and all that, I would not do this because I don't need to be working every week. want it to be something fun. And so I think that's where he's going with it and kind of going with this broader mission of can we talk about the game and be smart about it

and not be a big bummer because I think he is bummed out by a lot of the coverage that's out there. Yeah. Another problem to me is this day and age. So, and the fact that it is new and we don't, me included, don't give you a lot of, you know, grace.

Hey, you're on your big time dude. you're being paid a million dollars, you're on this major network, and this show is this. Like, if we have the patience to wait three years to see what this, you know, organically develops into, like the inside the NBA, I bet you would not think it's that great if you saw their first few episodes. Yeah. Or first year or two, maybe even. But now they're humming along. Now you're putting it up against that.

It's, you know, a start up against this thing that's already great. and we're going to judge you instantly. It's the advice we would give our interns or whatever. If you are podcasting nowadays, because that's the way to get your feet wet, get your reps, don't publish it. You and T.C. didn't do that for years. I was thinking, you know, that's a good idea that you had initially is like actually get some at-bats that nobody ever sees. Yeah.

But nowadays, you want everybody to see your stuff right away. and now Dirk jumping in there. I don't know. It's just a little worrisome. Nash is a great steady hand, though. He's done the podcast thing. He's been on TV. He's done soccer.

He's also not a guy that's going to get too critical of things because I think Nash might consider himself to be in that NBA coach pipeline. I might be back there at some point. That's a nice paycheck to get, right? Nice life to live. You know what's weird about that, though, is like, I don't feel like, and maybe JVG and SVG just consider themselves done.

Maybe Mark Jett, they would be pretty critical. So they're going to have to provide some of that if you're Nash. Like, the coaching thing can't be, can't be an excuse. It'll be an interesting, it'll be an interesting mix if they can pull it off. Yeah, I hate to be. With Dirk, I want to say everything's going to be successful. It's not going to be, if it's Smith. Hell, your article, how he was really into, like, wanting to be a business.

businessman and then kind of like, you can kind of see if this isn't working out awesome right away. Even Dirk himself might be like, hey, I gave it a shot. Yeah. And I don't think if I predicted anything, I would predict this to be a one-year deal. There's a take. But I have to teach Dirk your ways of those takes. Well, it just I think I don't want to give it more than a year because he's a guy who realizes he came to America and wanted to come back for the first couple years. and now, by sticking with it, what ended up being one of the best to ever do it.

Like, I feel like there are guys, like I said, Emmett Smith. They threw him on television. He clearly didn't prepare at all, didn't take any coaching at all. And they just put him on TV because he was a cowboy. Yeah, it was horrible. Like, Dirk is already taking body language, you know, classes listed in the art.

I mean, I feel like he'll take it seriously. Could be too much in your head, too, sometimes. Yeah. Because just naturally, he's a gregarious fun guy to, you know, in the right group, for sure. Yeah. So I'm concerned. What does he smell like? I'm also just concerned because it's, you know, Amazon and they haven't actually been doing too well on setting up their shows.

Their sports stuff, I don't think. I think their NFL coverage kind of sucks. I would agree with that. So. I would agree with that. What did you ask him? What Dirk smelled like, you know. What Dirk smelled like?

Natural ones. Do one of the best parts of our gig was getting to see him every year. Yeah. And he would hug you and I'd go meet him at the elevator and he'd remember me from a year before. No, I interviewed 19-year-old. I don't know if he was 19, maybe 20. It was early. When I first got to town in 1999, that summer, I think he had played here one year already.

Is 98 his first year? Yeah. The summer. 98, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he would have been 20 at that point. So he played 98 and then, yes.

Then in the summer, I interviewed this 19 year or 20-year-old with, he was just sitting in the practice courts were at. SMU, right? No, it was, it was south or south Dallas. It was like a medical. Baylor Medical? Baylor. Yeah. Yeah, they used to practice over there.

And that was where we first didn't interview. And yeah, he didn't, his English wasn't all there. And, you know, he acted like he didn't know who Ava Braun was. And I probably shouldn't have brought that up. But, you know, it was, it was something. time ago but he's breaking the surface or whatever we had to break the surface and then you know um well you know what let's uh mid interview you'd mention factor the factor meals because this kind of relates to dirk and the whole luka thing because dirk and like dirk used to eat terribly

ah nice he would eat fast food just like every kind of 19 year old kid who comes up does and uh it took him till he was about in his mid-20s to start taking his nutrition seriously. And I think Factor helps you do that too because it's prepared meals. You can eat them quickly. So it's fast food. You can get it ready fast, but it's actually good for you. You pop it in the microwave for a couple of minutes and you are on your way. They've got, for me, I'm not a huge vegetable guy. Every vegetable I've had from Factor has been good. The proteins are super top-notes. You can do the Mediterranean diet. They've got Asian-inspired meals.

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get delicious ready-to-eat-meals delivered with Factor. Author-only valid for new Factor customers with code and qualifying auto-renewing subscription purchase. Factor, why Luka got traded. Well, that's not exactly, but I thought the food thing would tie in. You're 100% correct. That's good. And I guess we forget what it was like in the 90s, right?

He is adamant. We talked about this in this interview. He's like, you know why those Loon commercial, like the whole Loon stuff happened? And I was like, no, why? He's like. The what? The Loon? The Lund, you know, everything about what you get spotted, the Loon and the drunk photos and all that stuff.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but Nash. It was like, it happened because there was nothing to eat after 10 p.m. in Dallas, and this is before NBA teams catered anything post game. So we had to eat, and the Loon was across from where we lived. So we would just hang out there and get sandwiches, and then you just would hang out there for a while. He's like, so people would think that I was just bar hopping all the time. It's because nothing in Dallas was open after 10 p.m. and NBA teams did not feed us. I mean a team's not feeding people in like

1999 is a wild thing Yeah I mean now it's Pre cubes You can't get it up yeah Yeah cubes changed everything Yeah But they were yeah That was one of the worst franchises in all of sports

The Mavs just a laughing stock Yeah they weren't doing great And they weren't about to invest money into You know these crappy players I heard from someone the other day Because we've already opened this wound We might as well keep going Keep Luca

That they were talking to some somebody at a local really nice restaurant. And Luca was like friends with the owner to the point where he would hang out late into the night and play poker with the owner or whoever would hang out, which I realize does somewhat confirm like the Nico narrative of, see, these guys not taking care of himself. But my thought is, that's just Michael Jordan. Like we had Michael Jordan. Eventually he was going to figure out sleeping more, he has more kids.

do whatever. But in his time here, everyone in the scene loved him because he was acting like a normal person. And he would hang out late. You know, that's a very uncommon thing for athletes now. And, you know, I never vibed with Kobe. And it wasn't, I don't like that sort of, like, it's got to be, we're weaking up in the, like, a lot of it's performative. Jordan was playing poker on the day of games or gambling on the golf course and drinking on the day of games. and it's ordering a pizza at midnight he ate the pizza yeah and we had that and that's the thing that made him get run out and that drives me crazy there's going to be a time this year i've been saying this but like they're going to have a stretch this year while they'll lose like eight of ten

just because i think every team let's let's not say eight to ten we'll say like five of nine or something just some mediocre stretch where they don't look good in December and lucca's just ripping the league apart out in L.A. and everything that got buried, like everything got buried just to come back up. We were going to hear loud fire Nico things. We're going to hear loud lots of just rage because what, I mean,

the Cooper flag thing is great and it's nice that the team essentially hasn't escaped murdering its entire fan base now that this guy is here. It's not great. Well, it's not great because it's giving a lifeline to Nico Harrison. Yeah, but it's great for the fans who are still there. Right. That's what I'm saying.

I don't like those people. They're not real fans. That's what I say. They're like, oh, no, you're not real fans. If you just can, I'm just going to keep supporting this franchise after they did that. You're an idiot. Well, I think the whole thing, though, right? The reason it's going to come back up is because, like, and the reason that this is a story,

the reason we keep talking about it, it's Luca, but it's also like, this is, it's a story of power, man. Like, this is, if you have a cultural artifact at Dallas, and that is basically what Luca Donchich is. and people who are not from here decide to take that thing away and kind of openly admit that they don't really know the culture of this organization

and that organization is rooted in the city that's what this whole thing's really about that's why when those same people are still running things it's why it's not going to get better unless they like win a title in the next two years which ain't going to happen so it's this stuff is just a very shallow grave there's going to come a time Dan

a couple months when you will be back and the people will be back on your side with this because it's just things never there's no real actual closure there's no real reflection right i mean even the cooper flag thing happening nico's been retconning it into the narrative about you see the vision now and i think people kind of ridiculous it is ridiculous it's completely ridiculous but because there's no accountability there's no thought and there's no there's been no moment of hey we hear you we should have done this better what can we do better because that was the whole cuban thing like him or not like him cuban was accessible and cuban was

here. But when the team is owned by a guy in Vegas and run by a guy from Portland and there's no thought whatsoever about what did we do Nash is a great example of this. Cuban made that decision and immediately defended it. I didn't

agree with it. Yeah. But he came on the station. He came, you know, he would do whatever interview. He did not go hide in the tunnel and not be seen in the public until draft day. Have the closed door media session. He wore it. He was like, this is what I, I am doing this. These are the reasons I'm doing it. And I'm going to stand up. And we all said,

this is stupid. It's ridiculous. You shouldn't have done this. And he just kept, he's like, bring it on. Like, I'm in charge. But I'm in charge. Yeah. But I'm just saying for this, this bullshit, the, I don't know, man. Can I tell you this before we move on for the article? I am glad that Dirk is, like the Dirk Amazon thing is happening because if you're a Mavericks fan, you've always had to fight for your space. I mean, most of my basketball life has been like, you guys are underrating Dirk. Dirk was absolutely the best player in the league at one point in his career. But you're not allowed to say, Kobe, Kobe, Kobe. But if we had Luka here, in a weird way, I think it would

have kept people realizing how effing great Dirk was alive. Because it's like, oh, he played with Luca for a year. You're going to see all these highlights. The Mavericks are still a thing. There was very little, you know, lack of, the continuity was there. They were bad for, what, a couple years, but it's Dirk to Luca. Now. And you're like, he's even better than Dirk. And now, yeah. They don't have a guy now that's better than Dirk.

Now there's no way that he can have that sort of relationship with Cooper Flagg, even if either one of them wanted to. Yeah. And so now Dirk on Amazon is literally the only Mavs thing I have to be excited about. It's that they're going to play highlights of Dirk against the jazz and whatever. and I'm going to be like, Leo meme. So go get a magazine. Yeah, we have a buy one.

Buy one. There's an event too. We're doing an event up in Rollertown on the 24th. You can have a little Dirk watch party. Go check that out. Dmagine.com slash dirk event. Not being a company man right there. Nice.

Yeah. We know all about that. Yeah. Read, Strongside. Read Jake Kemp writing for us with his awesome football and basketball words. Can we start sitting out my article via our email? Would you be cool with that?

Yeah, I would love that. So I, this is a person. Of course, he's going to be cool with it. I think I wasn't asking him. I was looking at him. I don't know if it was because of like where we worked or whatever, but we weren't really allowed to, like, promote stuff we did outside of the station. Almost every single time I tweet an article, somebody's like, I didn't know you wrote.

Fuck me so long. Do a little writing on the side? No, but like I've done it. I wrote for the athletic for four years. Like, because I'm not Bob's blog where we could come on every day and be like, let's talk about the thing I wrote. And Kat was like, don't promote your shit outside of the ticket. I don't like it either. I like it anyways.

That's right. Now you work for you, Jake. Yeah. And me, kind of, but not really. That's right. Yeah. Sports media personality of the year. Oh.

He didn't need it. Says. The competition. Who is it? the observer oh the dallas observer but yeah that's not really your competition right i don't know we're in our own space we like the observer the observer cool people oh why is he crossing his fingers yeah i felt i felt crossing his fingers because he's not usually do the rolling dice or something a little more well that reminds me of

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I don't know. Oh, I don't know. Well, we're about to do the news. So either you're leaving or you're staying for the news. You do whatever you want. We're doing the news. Here's Jay with the Dumb Zone News. Have you met Ryan Rogers?

He's sitting next to you. Hey, Ryan Rogers. Hey, how are you? He's the I Butler. guy if you need some glasses all right right on well we have a story here that was sent to me quite a few times given uh recent personal story shared here on the show a woman was shot and killed outside of a dallas pet smart on tuesday afternoon is it pets this is a mark debate at my house or is it pet smart yeah it may be a can you give me one of these cold howl

waters good god you get me one from the fridge no it's right there that box is all cold who are you directing to do that all three of these one of them's a guy across the room I thought Blake was not your slave it was inconvenient

everyone in the video anyway the victim of which there is one what if I got dehydrated a 22 year old woman now my conflicts at PetSmart

tend to come from one thing they are internal and it is when i accidentally default to my southern and texas roots and say ma'am or sir to everyone like i do and let me tell you that when you're at pet smart you're in a danger zone there that works there's a lot of there's a lot of middle ground and you may think you're being polite by saying uh no ma'am but you may get a weird look that's not what happened here what happened here the 41 year old was shot multiple times after an argument that started multiple times crime of passion maybe no well maybe if they're passionate about this topic

but it was not a pretty planned situation this was that of after an argument where one woman was walking out the victim held the door open for the suspect and the suspect became enraged over not hearing thank you Hmm It's in the Blake Yeah Blake we're gonna eat your whereabouts Yeah where were you So the person walking out of the door

Shot the person holding the door Double bad Yeah the person holding the door Was like hey how about a little How about a little something here? So that's me in that situation You would have been shot I would so I would have been shot here

Yeah For being cordial and holding the door open No for the little toad That you drop afterward Where you expect to be feeded because someone walked through a door you, right? And if you say that

out loud, somebody would be like, what you say? How about a quick wave? Just a little flip. A little flip of the finger. How about don't shoot me and I'll be happy? But you two need to be need to have your... What's like you say if you give money to charity, you kind of want somebody to know about it, right?

It's true. You're not really doing it to help the person in need as much as it is to make you look at. One of the worst bits my mom had growing up was doing a lot for other people and saying we're not doing this for recognition. I'm like, well then what are we? It's for your soul. Yeah.

But yeah, man. The door didn't open itself. It's a good point. How'd you get through the door? What's funny is that funny, there's a... Do you have to say thank you to the robot when you walk out of Target the automatic door? No. Okay. You know, it's funny.

Because I have thanked a automation text. Yeah, that's... You know what I was struggling with is I'll write... I don't use GPT that often. I use it for research,

but I'll, like, bitch it around a little bit. Like, no, fucking... You heard me. Like, get it right. There's a new AI model for football stats that a company called Sumer Sports released yesterday.

It's literally the most impressive tool I've ever seen in my life. you can just Google, come up with a question about the NFL, ask it. And it'll like, hey, I'd like to see, what are the Carolina Panthers' weaknesses in the run defense relative to the Cowboy Strengths this year? I'd like to focus on play type, counterpower. I'd like to focus on where they run those out of personnel up against what the Panthers do and don't do well, and it'll provide you a detailed report. Really?

And let me tell you something. When I use Sumer Brain, I think it. And I talk very nice to it. Yeah. Yeah, I would do. Incredible, Suma Brain. Thank you so much. But could you make it per game instead of raw data? Love what you're doing for me.

Could it tell me the last quarterback to be acquired midweek and then start a game that week and win? I'm sure it could, but we already know that one. We already do. So I do think some AI if I feel like I'm going to need it. I think Bernie Cozard did that for the Cowboys, too. Was it midweek? He was released like on a Monday, signed that week, and started that Sunday. We used to have proper backup quarterbacks in this country.

It's true. It's true. Now they got, did you see Cooper Rush got benched? Already? For who? Uply? Snoop. Yeah.

Snoop Huntley. Well, that's a Pro Bowl quarterback right there. It was one year, right? Yeah. But we're going to break the bank for Cooper Rush to back up the most mobile quarterback in NFL history. Like, who would have thought that couldn't work? Yeah, it turned out you were right about that. You know, and Mike said that earlier, Mike Palucci,

something about you turned out to be right. Like, you're going to learn Mike Palucci to, that happens a lot. You're going to like, oh, look, Dan was right. Often, even. Often. Most of the time. Okay, I want to wrap up the thank you story real quick. The woman who did the shooting, and it was in the parking lot,

uh drove away in her vehicle her license plate is on the surveillance video it's right there so police then just went to the registered owner's driver's license address an apartment and she was just out on the balcony in the same clothes like no concern of just did a murder what's next apparently it was just a cigarette and kind of a hang out so it was a guy holding the door open for her? No, it was both women. Oh, he was a lady? Mm-hmm.

And she's like, how about a thank you? Yeah. Like, how about I shoot you? Well, they fought hard. They, like, started arguing, it carried out in the parking lot. They were ramming each other with the cars. Oh, okay. Yeah.

And then one of them said, I'm going to finish this. But then didn't exhibit any sort of, what are we going to do? They just drove to her house. I mean, this kind of checks out. People that don't say thank you've got to screw loose somewhere. God, sweeping generalizations. We around here are big fans of Waterburger. We're big fans of Waterberger's car trays that they produced in conjunction with the dumb zone.

Honestly, it's a highlight of my week when I pull up there and pick up my order. Waterberg is also a place where a lot of fights happen, and it's been this way forever. We had one last night in San Antonio. That's really just a matter of they were always open. They used to be open on the inside every, every location. So it was the only place you'd go. Yeah, teed up, drunk, whatever it was. That's where it would happen.

There was a brawl at a San Antonio Waterberger a few days ago. They have seven people from age 21 to 57 that have been arrested. Or charged, actually. 11 people were arrested. Seven have been charged. with assault. It happened around 3 a.m. On Saturday night,

police say a misplaced meal led seven customers to attack another four. So they're coming out. They got the tray, and they're like, all right, this is for 48. And they sit it down at the wrong place,

and somehow that turns into a mealy. No, that's my breakfast burger. A mother of one of the victims says at Waterburger, part of another table's order was mistakenly brought to my son and his friends. Instead of the staff acknowledging their heir, they reportedly told the other customers, they have your food. So they make the mistake, and then they're like,

who do you want us to do about it? Go get it. And now we have a turf war over, you know, a chicken honey barbecue sand. sandwich, just go pick it up and take it over there. What do you think is going to happen? It's 3 o'clock in the morning. Well, what happened is a violent assault. She said, they have your food.

Moments later, those individuals confronted my sons and his friends, and within seconds, this was far beyond a misunderstanding. It was a violent assault. The age range is tripping me out. You just said 21 to 25, okay. There's an outlier here. Why is a 57-year-old fighting? I don't know.

But probably because he's an. a father, possibly? Because he does have the same last name as one of the 21-year-olds. Do you want Chappie helping you in a fight? I think you do. Then you know some of them tricks they used in the 70s? Nah, bro.

My stepdad is a, like, verified problem. He is a bad man. But my dad ain't about the smoke, man. I didn't get this from him. Your stepdad was a cop, right? Yeah. And he knows how to cheat. Real tough guy before and after.

Yes, cheat. How does that make your dad feel a little emasculated that she goes and marries this cool guy? I'm sure there's some level of... I'll have to ask him about that tomorrow. Yeah, he was a lot of younger, too. Please do. Yeah. How did you...

No, none of us have ever thought about it. The Navy Seal, the Shane Gillis bit. Yeah. Your ex just married the coolest guy ever and your kids love him. Yeah. But, you know, my dad had some wins on the board, too. I'll bet. He's also, he's done well for himself.

He's like, yeah, okay. I do whatever I want, like, 28 out of 30 days a month. Yeah, I don't think he was like, oh, no, he's worth them all the time. Maybe like once every now and then. A little sadness. But speaking of the observer. Takes you guys and our movies and. Right.

Halloween hayrides and no vegetables ever. The observer has a little piece on a new wallet hub. survey which do your homework when you get home Sunday night why are you right doing it here okay sorry no no dude we had a server what we had grounding embargoes you're not grounded while you're here not grounded while you're here I'm not going to ground you four days a month I'm supposed to not hang out with you like no uh sorry a lot fun times um it seems like wallet hub only exist to do lists you see these in every news story but they do actually put together like an index of you see it like livability or affordability or the healthiest city rather than just

like hey we're going to do a poll online but the one the uh the observer reports on today is the worst suburbs in america and three north texas small cities finished below 1200 and there were only 1,300 cities included on the list. It's not what you want. North Texas, or are we saying DFW, can we guess? How are those different? I don't know. North Texas

can be... Okay, then probably that. Because I kind of don't... Like Sherman. Is Sherman DFW? I don't think so. But Sherman's North Texas. Okay. Yeah, I... I don't... Then go North Texas. Okay. So we can't say

Hearst or something. No, and you wouldn't either, because Hearst is nice. Ulyss, you're getting a little closer. Now, along those same tracks, Blake, that's fine, but you could keep going. Garland? No. Think what he was just saying. Altham?

Altham City. Haltham City checks in at number, what was it, 12. 12. What's wrong with Haltham City? I don't know. They got a huddle house, don't they? 12. 29. I think that's where I picked up a tarantula on the softball field.

checks. Okay, yeah, Haltim City is 12.07 total. For economic health, they were 1,163 for quality of life, 1229. Yeah. It sucks. I grew up on the line of

the city, and it's not, it sucks. That's why I wanted to go there. I had a choice. I, sort of, right? Like, they built a new high school. And then because of where I lived, I had a choice to go to Haltim. And I thought, like, I'm going to be badass.

Like, I'm going to go to the ghetto school because my cousins go there. And, you know, they're doing great. And my mom's like, are you fucking, really talk? Like, no. Absolutely not. That's why I have seen control, Dan. That's what I rescued her from. Because his wife would have to be here.

So she's basically a P-O-W. I uprooted her and put her in Wiley. She can't complain about anything ever again. Yeah. Beautiful Wiley. Okay, it was Hazlitt. an opposing coach picked up a tarantula off the mound and it's like, hey, look at this. Haslitz getting nice.

It's just country. Eaton High School is really nice. But Haltham, yeah, Haltham City. I haven't spent much time there. There's probably a reason for that. There's not a whole lot going on. You know what there used to be back in my day? There was one reason to go there, and it was around Christmas time, and it was for the Waterburger basketball tournament.

Multiple NBA points. That was at Haltam? It was at the Coliseum up on the hill. Were you playing? What are you saying in your day? Oh, dude, this was, like, we would go to this. I didn't go every year, but almost every year. The best teams from around the country.

That is a neat arena. There was a million NBA players in there. Like, Zion played. Oh, I saw Zion at APEC. But it was like a hub for the best high school basketball teams, and it was in a really weird part of DFW randomly. Waterburger sponsored it. It was a good time.

our other sub-1,200 cities here. Lancaster. Lancaster? Lancaster. And Farmers Branch. That's kind of surprising. I feel like Farmer's, nothing wrong with Farmers Branch. Yeah.

Yeah, they're only making these lists to make you say that, right? They have discussion. I don't live there. How is Mesquite not on this list? Mesquite has like cool some cool stuff though don't they Mike the roadie stuff The Rodeo Farmers Branch has cool restaurants

Tiffany Derry's down there That's like her whole deal She's like food network now She chills in Farmer's Branch Who? Tiffany Dairy Roots Southern Kitchen man I'm from DBA this is my D Magazine Contribution right here

Oh yeah okay I've seen this woman Yeah yeah yeah Tiffany Dairy Yeah yeah McReyton anything This is not really your food lane No, just the quickness of Dan, Tiffany Dair. Oh, yeah.

Celebrity, inter-images. Celebrity chef and restaurateur. Yeah, her stuff's good, man. So there's restaurants and farmers' branch is what I'm getting at. The social media commenters when the observers post this were taking aim at Irving, Frisco, Plano, Garland, and Mesquite. So the other suburbs? But I would say Irving, Frisco, and Plano are nice. Those are fine.

Yeah. There's nothing. I wouldn't want to live in Frisco personally because it's kind of copy-paced, but there's nothing wrong. Garland, you're saying, is trashed. Garland, have some great old, like. Actually, you're right. It is the home to the world's largest cowboy hat. They did just get a big hat.

They did just get a, and that may have been included here. Seagaville, that didn't make the list. The prison, that's pretty much all Seagovil is. People riding horses along 635 in Seagoville, that can't be good. she started her career her culinary career at the local international house of pancakes

don't elongate it I know she worked at IHop she was busing tables in an IHop and I'm supposed to be like oh her culinary career international let's travel over to Belgium for a waffle that's such an underrated sketch

We'll wrap up with this one A former Valley Mills police chief What do you got on Valley Mills, Blake? Not a lot Um, it's in Texas We're going to say that Is definitely in Texas It looks like it is near Waco

And I want you to listen up here, Buckaroo, McDowell The police chief and a former officer Were arrested In charge with several counts of fraud and theft for using a city card, credit card, to buy gas for their wives' vehicles. Why do I have to listen up? We've just been talking about...

Oh, the company credit card? A company card, and we'll put gas on it, we'll keep it the same. You need to be careful. I'll do what I want with that card. Okay, mark this down. Evidence. Arrested.

Well, it's a city, though. You're stealing money from the city. I'd just be stealing money from you. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's still, is that what it is? That's the only reason it's illegal? Yeah. Like, well, although if you're stealing money from the...

In-Rond. No, the Grapevine Soccer Association, because you're the treasurer. You could get arrested for that. Stealing money, stealing money, bro. That's what I'm trying to make sure you understand. Okay, well, I'm not going to steal money from you. Why would you even insinuate that? I just think I didn't know that you could go to the level of like...

People listening are now going to think I'm a big jerk. Yeah, maybe. You are a big jerk. There's your news. Oh. Not prepared for that. Why don't you end in a minute. The dumb zone news.

Like and subscribe. That was a good news. Oh, man. What other things, Dan? Why don't you guys talk about beer for a minute? Oh, okay. We could just mention Lone Star beer if you'd like. because actually

Oh, you know what? I didn't bring any downtown. I got to bring some to the studio here so we can enjoy some Lone Star beer in our studio. When we go to the Den, though, when we do the live streams, the number one thing we must have on hand is Lone Star Beer. The number two thing, Lone Star Light.

Now, perhaps you're not even a big drinker. Well, you can still enjoy Lone Star, the National Beer of Texas at Lone Starbeer.com. put in the code DumbZone 21 and get 21% off merch. Great merch. Cool. I was just looking at our Twitter feed today. Somebody had seen a cool, what was it, Lone Star logo on a, what was it, a silo?

What's it got in there? A water tower, something. Anyway, the 9-11 Memorial. The Lone Star logo is badass. Like, it's got to be the best logo. of all logos, the greatest logo. Anyway, so Lone Star Beer. Thanks for your partnership, available at the GILF as well.

Lone Star Beer, Lone Star Light, a reluctant partner instead of a proud partner of the Dumb Zone. We love them, though. Let's see here. We want to do a couple of viewer mail birthdays, if I can, before we get things rolling with some today in history. And we have... The bingles had to release Brett Rippin. Oh, really? Brett Rippin's still out there.

Yeah. Viewer mail birthdays, greetings, Brackett, Dan, and Cowboys Radio finest. Cowboy Radio's finest. October 8th is my birthday. It's my Dirk plus Luca minus Leon Lett birthday. 40? Yeah, four. 40, I guess.

He says 43. 43, we went the other way. We should add it. Is that 70? Okay. 78. Okay. Let's see.

My claim to limited fame is I work for a pickle company. My father and grandfather had Norm to do spots for Wedgeski, Wirobe Pickles. Wow. This is the guy? Now our brand is Huns, my last name. I've bribed Blake with pickles and jalapenos that your listeners can purchase at H.E.B. Yeah, they're great.

Hopefully your pickles and peppers made it to the den. I did. Shoties, not shotties. Blake's non-tailored jacket, machines fantasy tips, and ragging on Aggies are my leaders. Sick'em and go bobcats from Colin Hunt.

Wow. Do you think he means your bobcats or mine? I don't know. Probably not the original OU Bobcats. Open-ended. Ohio University? There's a, because of course, Of course, there is a Reddit page called R slash Pickles.

And just the post here reviewing Huns Pickles. I like the old name. The old name had a lot of gravitas and a lot of syllables. Yeah, Norm would just barrel into it. Why, Chesky? Why, Robey? I didn't know that was a real company for all those years. Dear Trooper of the Front Pooper.

Oh, wow. I'm sending in my own birthday because I'm an adult and I can do whatever I want. priest holmes birthday 37 31 31 I sleep in my wranglers on my birthday every year because October 10th is today the 10th

tomorrow is the 10th I'll save that well you're you're already halfway through it yeah I mean it's his suspense for tomorrow it says in the subject line it says 10 10 birthday

I figured I sleep in my wranglers because October 10th is also the birthday of Dale Earnhardt Jr. Brett Fav. My leader is three yards per catch TD, Jake. My prediction to track, will Shottie be carried off the field at some point in his career? Rudy style.

He is. From Hammer. He is 100% a type of guy who would plant seeds like your wife, you know? Boy, Shere Hope, no one ever does that. That's crazy. She got roses? Shottie would love that. He would love that. You remember

the only other guy we got made I think I made fun of for that was Jim Schwartz. My. I think he went to the bills maybe, but they, they beat the lions, and they carried him off his former team, and he's like, hey, give me up here. It's like giving yourself a nickname or referencing your grit tattoo on your hand. You can't push to be carried off on your own. No, I did enjoy the UCLA coach getting carried off, though.

That was cool. at first game he yeah interim coach got hired who's their cut no no no no no that wasn't the coach that was o c that was the late that was the new heisel yeah that was Rick new heisel's kid who wasn't even the real he didn't have like an oc title yet he was just like offensive assisted but we fired everybody else so sure jerry have fun yeah it was cool and then they upset uh oh Penn State Penn State yeah James Franklin special I saw Rick Newheisel on TV talking about it was cool like they were going to the game of

of highlights and he's like yeah i don't really i'm going to sit this one out what do you think i think it's the coolest thing my son's ever done call plays and d-a-y-a-a-n-a-n-a-n-a-n-a-d-a-n a probably sure dirty diana she says uncle dan i'm very late about three years getting this birthday shout out to you please wish my loving husband todd happy 50th I'm taking my blue ribbon-winning fella to the state fair today and later we'll enjoy some home-cooked wings. Oh, wow. Happy birthday, Lummy.

I don't think I do. You ever met John Jock Taylor? I have. Well, he made a little misstep on Twitter once upon a time. Where I think he was trying to maybe text or DM his lady and he simply posted if you get yo ass home on time

and shove some pussy in my face I will pick you up some wings there by looking for a promissory note that she is I would want to pick up the wings ahead of time because now I'm at home and I got this thing in my face and I'm going to work

on that. Yeah. But then you want to go out and get wings after that? I wouldn't think. You're exhausted. You're watching Sports Center. I would also, as a courtesy to her, prefer to have the wing eating be after the shoving in my face, though. Right? Because nobody's going downstairs.

Refresh the palat. The atomic on your face. That's disgusting. Yeah, so. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, you're worried about her. Right.

You're a gentle lover. Gentleman. But anyways, so who's the guy? His name is Todd, and this is from Diana, the dirty one, not the princess. Well, thank you to her. Now, how about a little today in history? Trident Garage Doors presents on this day in history. It is Thursday, October 9th.

On this day in 1999, the Houston Astros played their last game in the Astrodome. where would they play their next game? Blake Jones. What field? Enron? Enron. On this day in 2005, speaking of the Astros, an incredible story. Incredible story.

An 18th inning home run ends the longest postseason game in baseball history. The Astros defeat the Braves, 7-6. They advance to the NLCS. Why is this story so incredible? Not just the longest post-season game in baseball history. It was hit by Chris Burke The bench was empty No, no, no, no, no.

It was a different Chris Burke. Is that why you had him on? This wasn't Chris Burke, the actor? No, it was a journeyman. Oh. Uh-uh. No, not even. Oh, I don't know that this is that amazing story.

He had a hit and ever. By the way, we got to stop giving up four spots, seven spots early in the game. We're going to close this bitch out tonight. The brew crew? Yeah. Should have got it done last night. but can you tell me who else is still alive?

Yeah, the Blue Jays. Yep. Knocked off the Yankees. Knowing that alone is enough for me. All right, thank you. And on this day in 2012, former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison

because he was convicted on 45 counts of sexual abuse of boys. How's he doing? Is he dead? No. He still? I think a play-by-play guy now? No. No, the Ravens guy. spells his name with a G.

Very unfortunate coincidence to work in football and have, like... Yeah, working the East Coast. Oh, God. His name is Jerry Sandusky. And he's calling someone for a quote, hey, this is Jerry Sandusky, Colin. Can I talk to your son? Do you think he goes to the Jerry with a G?

He does. He just has to say it right there. Jerry G, G, G, G, G, G. No rape. Did you ever watch that movie with Pacino? It's a lot of Pacino movies. They made a Paterno Puccino movie. Dog Day Afternoon?

No, they made, HBO made a movie about, like, the aftermath with Joe Paterno. Never watched it. Really weird. I don't recall it being good, but it's out there. Did he do the any given Sunday speech? No. Honestly, I think it, maybe he nailed it because Joe Pah kind of seemed to be like, if I act like I don't know what's going on, this won't touch me.

Yeah. He was the Queen Elizabeth of college football. Just, you know, keep the title, don't really run operations, try to stay above the foray. Oh, Biden-y. Kind of walking around, looking around. And then we have Thursday, it's October 9th, this day in Dumb Zone history. Only one show back in 2023 on this day, and we were sad because the Cowboys got demolished by the 49ers. So not a lot. Cowboys players blamed it on the referees.

2023? They were probably right. I think they got killed and then Micah said, yeah, we're right there. We're close. 2023 was a good year, though. So I'm trying to think back to what, yeah, because they got beat by Arizona that year, too, I want to say. Anyways, there was a- Tyler is undefeated in-

There you go. But I think this was the one where they were, like, complaining about, there was something weird. And I only remember that because it was on Micah's podcast. It's because them guys just want to get on TV so their family can see him, the rest. Settle down, Mr. President. Other birthdays today, Trevor Daly is 42, former Dallas Star. Cooked us at ticket basketball during the NHL lockout, which definitely was in violation of his contract at the time.

Former Ranger, former guest, Derek Holland is 39. Name the six teams Derek Holland has been on. Oh, okay. You got the obvious one, the Rangers. Was he a... He was either a giant or a... He was a giant. Okay, giant.

There was a pirate's cameo in there, wasn't there? There was a pirate. Was he ever... Well, that's as far as I can get you. He would stay in the Central Division. White Sox, right? The White Sox, the Cubs, and the Targers. The Detroit Targars.

The Cubs seem right to me, but I thought it might be a hairy-carrying. impression Mandela effect thing so Oh my God How excited was he To get signed by the Cubs Yeah He was good on our show

A one A two Former or no Excuse me Future National Championship coach He just has to fill in the day The year

Jimbo Fisher is 60 What's he doing Just laughing I saw him Like how did they give me All that money He was interviewed recently They fire me, tell me I don't have to work anymore.

Like, you should hold a guy to, he's got to do something for you now. I'm paying you $60 million. I need you to clean the dorms. Answer the phones. Yeah, do something. Clean up the Christmas trees. Yeah, he's a good coach, though, dude. Walk that stupid dog.

Yeah, now you're the guy that handles the dog or scooper. That'd be great. He'll be back. No, we won't. Yeah, well. It's not as old as you think. He's 60. I heard him talking the other day, and he's, he sounded like he was going to be back.

You know whose buyout money is running out, and I think may come back, like, real soon? Ed Orgeron. We all need Ed. We all need Ed back on the sideline. We have had a noticeable. Is he still got an Instagram girlfriend? Remember he had a hot? Oh, dude.

And he's all Ed Orgeron, though. The athletic story on him being horny is great. I covered him at SC. Did you? Yeah, yeah, that was the year. I was covered. the team when Kiffin got tarmacked. Yep.

And Ed was the interim coach. And it was just like Lane was super insecure back then. He's like mell it out a whole lot since. But he like wouldn't talk to the beat about any injuries, wouldn't answer anything. It was just like so wound tight that Ed comes to practice. And like first thing he does after he's talking to me, he's like, all right. So this guy's got a knee and that guy's got a shoulder and that one's got. And finally, like somebody's just like, Ed, I thought that wasn't the team policy.

He just kind of looks like, it's U.S. We can't win with the athletes we got. And I don't know what we're doing here. Nice. That was kind of the vibe. Yeah, it was just, you know, whatever you go somewhere with him. You know, like somebody should you speak to him like the I was working for at the time. And it's like, what's your name?

Bluchet? Okay. Hey, hey, man, you find coach. Oh, you need anything, man. I appreciate you. You have a great day. I'm like, this guy's the best. He's from a place that I've been.

And it makes sense when you go there. La Rose Parish, cut off Louisiana. There's a place on the map called Cut Off, Louisiana. Yeah, it's cut off. You've got to hit that bridge at the right time to get over there. George Kittle is 32. System product. As a...

Hunter Lippecke could easily do it. Many time George Kittle, fantasy owner, and even at the beginning of this year, and anything gets hurt, I just thought of this this morning. In San Francisco, do they call him George Brittle? Don't you feel like they should? That's a great.

I think we've got to tell Ethan Strauss that. Okay. Like, he'll think that's a big hit. Donna Kelsey is 73. Don't care. It's not her. It is her fault. That sucks.

I want to defend her and be like, that's not her fault. She's getting overexposed, but. Could say no. Kind of sign up for it. Mike Singletary is 67. A lot of kids. Really? Mm-hmm.

I wasn't aware of that. He does add. Baylor, right? He does ads on the ticket for Baker Brothers. and they are the worst ads I've ever heard in my life. They're hilarious. They're clearly not in the same place, and the owner jumps in and goes,

thanks, Mike Singletary. Penae Sewell is 25. He's got seven kids. And as a kid growing up, I thought it was cool. He played for Baylor and Chicago, so he stayed a bear. Boy, that is such a Blake Youth Sports Note. What a dork.

I love it. Anika Sarmstom is 55. Made a lot of people mad around here once, right? Me included. I just know there was a young golfer who got shut out of that tournament because they wanted to just do bits. Yep. Marie Kondo is 41. The organizing expert.

Absolute fraud. Why? She got a messy house? She walked all of it back. What do you mean? Maybe it's a little too much to be on top. No, no, no. She was excommunicato.

Do you wonder? I keep my house clean. You have a cleaning lady, though. right? We have a once a month? It's once every three or four weeks

and it's not, I don't know if this makes it better but having a team where it's like four people together doesn't feel as well I have that

but it's their family. We used to have yeah we used to have a lady. Like you know when school's out because the youngest cleaner is now here as well. But we do.

But the point is have you ever wondered is your cleaning ladies house real clean? Or she go home and just like I'm doing this all day. It's like the chef

who just like orders it all the time. Just like, I'm not cooking anymore. I'm not doing that. Yeah. Some DoorDash. Like if you marry a chef, you're like, oh, this is going to be great. I mean, are you super fired up?

Like if you marry a porn star, is she like, nah, I'm not into it. Probably. Yeah. I mean, are you real fired up? Like, you just added your kid's soccer game or something. And somebody's like, do you think the Cowboys can stop them this weekend? I am. No, you're not.

No, you're not. It's exactly the same. It's all I have to talk about, though. I always say that. If you run into me in the wild, If you want to ask us about the ticket or the show or whatever. Oh, you're just saying like just generic cowboy to talk? No.

I don't want to have to explain to everybody that they've won the 10th most games in the last 20 years. And your perceptions are completely wrong. Nick Swartson is 49. This is what my own editor has to deal with. Oh, yeah. We had a weird experience with him, man. We? Me indirectly on round ball talk.

Like he came in town and it was like Mike was. going and playing horse with guys that were in town like rappers, the tennis player. I'd love to meet him. He was not good, dude. Oh. Not good. I enjoyed him on Norm. I didn't even know who he was, but he was on Norm MacDonald's podcast a while back. I knew him from Comedy Central.

I guess he's kind of a back. Happy Madison. It was what, like, was the 2014-ish? Is I feel right? So he wasn't funny? Was it like, who was the comedian? Chris Farley's brother. Kevin Farley? That's how it was described to me, is that like, people who worked with the Mavs were like, are you sure?

this is the guy he was funny and if we're being on is gay robot is what got him like a ton of notoriety that series that he did it might have been funny or die gay robot you don't remember this well he parlayed into like a bunch of guest spots he was doing a bunch of things i'm trying happy madison a lot of yeah he's a sanler cling and he was great in those um but i think he's like sober now and kind of lame about it but he just he didn't have much steve burns is 52 that's Steve from Blues Clues. Your kids into Blues Cruz? What is it?

I've never actually known. I've heard it. He was just a guy. He was the human guy. It's not animated? No, he was the human. Let's look it up. That would be with... The dog is animated. Been animated. Sharon Osborne is 73. Sean Lennon is 50, the son of John.

Brandon Ruth is 46. He was one of the Superman's. Spencer Grammer is 42. She is Summer in Rick and Morty. What happened for Wicked Morty? I think it's still cooking. I just don't hear about it culturally as much as I did. And you're like, oh, she's a voice actor.

She must be just the best available. They scoured the entire country. No, the daughter. The daughter of your hero. Kelsey Grimer? Shut up. It's Frazier's daughter. I like the family dynamic where he has the traditional

feminine first name, so he gave his daughter the traditional masculine name, just to really turn it on its head, yeah. Jake has the Frazier box set over there. Again, I see it. He doesn't know that this, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't, I don't. So you also tell Mike Palucci that you don't wear a leather jacket? I'm surprised that you hide all this stuff from Mike Palucci.

I know. I want him to view me as a professional, so I can't let him know about the letter jacket and Frazier. Our dumb zone birthday of the day, though, 38 years old Cody Jones Does he have friends named Kobe Dude perfect

He has a friend named And Braden And Tyler Kobe Reiler Of course Kobe and Gloria are the twins Then they got Tyler and Garrett Garrett's the one

Yeah Born on the Stay Now Dead John Lennon Same birthday as his son That's pretty cool Probably less cool when you get assassinated and your kid has to think about it every year. But in theory, it is a neat thing.

He was definitely the type to celebrate his birthday over his sons. Yeah, no. I know Dan gets a comfortable when we bring it up, but terrible person. Absolutely, objectively, terrible person. How do you know his wife didn't need to be slapped around a little bit, like Sean Conner's late? Also, Charles Walgreens. Flap.

The founder of... Long receipts. The founder of long receipts. You ever see one of those videos with the Star Wars theme behind it, and it's just a scroll of the receipt? It's funny. You can just deny the receipt. Really?

Yeah. I hadn't seen a receipt since the Bush administration. Oh, I save a dollar on my Ozarka purchase. I take it because I'm not sure they'll recycle it. I want to take it home and recycle it. God, what a... Dead on this day's... still dead, Joseph Glidden, the inventor of barbed wire.

Huh. And died on this day in 1970. Can we do it? What year? It's going to be a little, it's not as easy as, uh, or as hard as the classics, right? A year that it was invented. So he just, he lived to be 93. Give me one year he was alive.

I'm going to say we had barbed wire in the late 1700s, earlier than you think. I'm going to say he was alive in 1790. Bye? Give me 1900. He died in 1906. Damn.

Okay, so we Blake's more right than you are. Also died on this day in 1974, Oscar Schindler, the inventor of lists. And that's what happened on this day

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You've been involved in closing remarks before. Have you not? Yeah, yes, I have. Yep. This is Ryan Rogers. Ryan Rogers joins us today. He's a sit-in. Not a country singer.

No. He was a sit-in last year. Sometime during the year, you sent a birthday shout out to your partner, Danny. Yeah, yeah, as Danny Bayless dubbed him 11 kids Danny because he has 11 kids. Okay, yes, you wished a happy birthday to my best friend and business partner, 11 kids Danny. Yeah. We are the I Butler guys that were in the den last fall while Jake was on, quote, vacation. Yeah, yeah.

And Ryan's leaders. I read that live. Ryan's leaders are run the ball, Blake, pond guy. Oh, yeah. Listen, we don't get pawn guy without me going on a little vacation. Right. And Jake's overuse of the word cuck. Yeah.

Psychological, Freudian. Anyway, I'm happy to see that Ibutler, is it iButler.com? Ibubtler.com, yeah, E.E. Butler.com. Is still rolling. In fact, it was just a few months ago that I had realized, I don't know, you know, my eyes are kind of bad. I wear glasses generally, but I didn't have any sunglasses that were prescription. So I would get sunglasses and put them on over these glasses to try and drive. Very cool.

Anyway, so he sent us, he just showed me how to do it. You go online, you just put in your thing, you know, you put your, whatever, you go to the eye doctor, you just type it in. I guess it measures your like... It'll measure your pupillary distance. We have the virtual try-ons. Yeah, you have me load up an app to measure my pupil distance. Yeah, that's the one measurement we need. And then he was laughing at my pupil distance.

And since I was here last time, we launched the all-new site. We got some feedback. The old one was kind of generic looking. Well, what you have now looks great. Yeah, finally now have images of people wearing the frames, so you can see what it looks like. So this is actually working this business. What's the bit? what's the bit yeah like why did you leave why did you guys start what did so so this happened

uh danny and i have been an optical for 30 years we've ran danny owns an optical he owns a lab i've worked for many different companies and so we know you know what's what's needed what's not what should be included what's coatings things like that and so we just started our own we went to portugal and uh created our own frame line custom for i butler and yeah this just i've known each other since we're eight years old and so i got him into optical when i was in college. And so we just always wanted to do something together. So we started this a couple years ago. I wouldn't say it's going well. I mean, it's small, going slow. The DFs have been great. We've sold a lot from last time in here, a lot of repeat customers. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I appreciate

it. So is it because you probably give free stuff to, like, if you work for the company, right? Yeah. And he's got 11 kids. Oh, yeah. Bottom line. That's not fair. Yeah. Yeah. He's got to feed those kids, so please help us out. Your partner has had so much sex. It's all the same wife, all the same, everything. He has two sets of twins. I've never seen that before in my life. God. Identical?

No. Well, the older set's fraternal, boy and girl, and the younger sets identical boys. Okay, wow. Yeah. So support I Butler and this poor guy with all these kids? And we relaunched the same code, DZ10, DZ10 for 10% off. and if you use it on the old side, it'll work again.

So please anybody use that. And remember, Dan, our starting prices is $77, frames and lenses. So what's 10% off, $77? Well, it must be $69. But, yeah, 77. But we've been talking throughout today, you know. Today we've already had it. It's Palucci's fault.

The whole Dirk thing, made us think of Luca. It's fair. But who knew 10% off was 69? How great is that? Do it in the show notes? Mm-hmm. What else you got on your notes there? I see anchor words.

Can I do a few? Of course. Absolutely. Puluccio love this. Do you ever used to listen to like KERAs away with words? I've not. No. We do anchor words, which is words you're only going to hear in conjunction with another word.

Like? Much maligned. Although this morning somebody on earth. The word maligned. Yeah. Somebody on earth like a 1980s NFL film where they said oft maligned. But you're never going to be. going to hear it. It's much malign. That's only in journalism.

You've got inclement, weather, pump, and circumstance. A word that is anchored to another. First one is jib. I like the cut of that. That's great. I don't have a clue what it is.

Does that do with like a turkey's neck? I think it started out, actually, I've researched us, and it was to talk about someone's nose, like the size of their nose that it turned into you like his personality. Like, I like the cut of his jib. I always thought it would have been clothing related. Really?

Sailing. Yeah, it's like, well. Like it's a tailored suit. A bunch of morons, we are. Okay. The next one's a halcyon. Those days. I remember well.

What is halcyon? Unfurled. Uh, banner? I just think of flag. What else? Flag, yeah. Unfurled on a flag. That one's not good.

Flag would have been good. That's it would have. Kind of sports related, muffed. Yeah. Yeah. You can't, you know. Nobody's ever muffing free things. throws.

Right. It's all. Rebounds. Shagrin. Much to my. Yeah. Come on. Help us out here, Mike.

Are some of these wrong? You're quick. No, you're just too bad. You're too bad. I'm just saying. Good at this game. I want you to provide the, like, the disproof. Like, oh, no, here's another one.

Okay. All right. You could be counterweight. I mean, but Brian's got some good ones here. This is good. Only few left. A back. Taken.

Yeah. And then shabang. That's a basic one. How come we don't use that ever? Taking a back? A back. Now I'm just going to see how I can be just a pompous magazine writer and work something without the anchor word into the next story. You should?

Yeah, just to get it more mainstream, man. Let's bring this. All this pomp and situation. Chebang. Medium. The half of the shabang. A quarter shabang. And so the last one.

I like this and I think it's kind of a double that you can never hear one word without the other. Nooks and. Crannies. Yeah. Well, it's a cranny. Oh, it's like a breakfast nook, you know? Breakfast nook, yeah. Would anybody ever use cradies?

Crannies, you never hear on its own. Right. It's very, see, this is our show, very informative. I love it. I'm learning things. Crannies may be a, somebody who's not well, like they're crazy, but they also identify with a different gender. Adios.

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