The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 11-17-25 | Bengals reporter Ben Baby on Logan Wilson and Lost On Blood Mountain

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneBengals reporter Ben Baby talks about what kind of player the Cowboys are getting in Logan Wilson, an SMU professor is missing and TC made a music video. (00:00) - Open: Weekend Check (42:13) - Bengals reporter Ben Baby talks Logan Wilson (01:00:03) - More Sports: Around The NFL (01:31:18) - TC made a music video (01:49:22) - NEWS: Lost on Blood Mountain, 5 arrested for Dallas stolen goods ring (02:18:11) - VM Birthdays/Today In History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Preview, pregame show. Tomorrow is a Cowboy Monday. I know it feels weird. We got a battle tonight. It feels weird not to have a stream. We're going out to the desert. We're going to head out to the desert. Yep.

Take on the Las Vegas Redos. I saw last night the local news sports reporters were doing their stand-ups and casinos. Really, yeah. Give you a feel for the vibe. Carpet, cigarettes. No clocks. No clocks. Oxygen.

No windows. Yeah. Yeah. Oxygen, the natural and supplemental kind, of course. And our Blake. And Blake, he's there. We should have seen if he wanted to jump in. sometime today.

I don't know what he's doing, but he's there. He's there with Steve Berline. By way of Provo, Utah, as I was watching or checking in on that BYU score and thinking, wow, Blake's there. Good that his triple play hit because no one else can hit him. Downtown.

I think the sorrows are really close to us now if we're looking at the picks. Yeah. It might be a couple games back. The Chiefs game, devastating for all of us. Yeah. And for the Chiefs, my close person, my AFC team. That sucks.

But you know, it's actually just a Dan Stradamus thing. They went 11 and 0 in one score games last year. And now they're 0 and 5 in one score games. So they got a lot of other little things you could say, but sometimes it's just the way football go. Maybe they just don't want it as much. I think probably it's the Taylor Swift. Obviously.

They've been no good ever since they started showing her. All the money, you know, their players are running people off the road in the summer. Since the engagement, the thing that's changed is the engagement. That really did take it to another level. Yeah, he's just worried about the wedding. Yeah. Are they announced a date? I don't know.

Why are you trying to clear your calendar? I would like to get up early like I did when Princess Die got married. Yeah, but why would they get married on London time? That's not just a customary famous wedding thing. Oh, it isn't? I thought you had to get married like at 4 in the morning. I'm confused. That's how weddings work.

Dude, I did have a buddy one time to try to pull that trash. Sorry, pal, if you're listening. But it was a second wedding. Like overseas? No, no, sunrise in the states. Oh, my God. Yeah, in Texas. And it was not in Texas where it was four hours away.

Like it's our wedding. We can do, you know. It's her day. You have to adhere to. And it was, I think it was religious, related like they wanted to have a sunrise church Sunday wedding like as the sun is coming up

church is happening it's outside and here's that is when you normally go to church that's the fine point maybe like in the Bible is what they're reaching for I don't know you have to that means you get up at four to start getting ready getting wasted you do go to church in the morning it's a religious

ceremony a wedding yeah it's a little weird we do them at night I guess from that angle yeah you're right and I think that's what they were going for like it was it was where all white. And you miss that. Wide left. T.C. is obviously

in for Blake today. Hello. As he usually will be will be in for Blake on the game streams. You guys don't do the thing when you say your names now? Oh, I don't know. I like it. Go ahead. You want to? I like it. I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jay Kemp.

I'm T.C. Fleming. We have foodie C.K. back there as well. Bringing you the live video on YouTube, if that's the way you want to consume the show. It is T.C.'s fault if your audio is not quite up to par, if you're listening to this later. And let's see on the program today, we will talk to Ben Baby. He's an ESPN guy. He covers the Bengals, and he can tell us all about the Cowboys' newest linebacker. And about Spitgate 2.0. What's that mean?

You ever see? spitting. Who spit? What did I miss? Jamar Chase spit on Jalen Ramsey yesterday and got punched. And then Ramsey was the one that got ejected. And yeah, no, I didn't bring it up when we were talking this morning because I had just seen it. But yeah, he's got flacco, weird flacco mid-season vibes he could talk to us about. But yeah, he does it. And here's a thing, Dan. They asked Jamar Chase about this. And he's very unequivocally, he's like, no and no way to

I open my mouth to that man. I didn't spit on that man, no way. There's like 20 high definition angles of him spitting right into Jalen Ramsey's face. Well, both spitting involve Ramsey's this year. I didn't put my feet on that couch. I wouldn't make those sense. I got more sense than that. Yeah, I tore up his couch. Oh, we want to promote. So this week, we are not just in the studio or in the den. We are at at Kane Roso Thursday. This is a Thanksgiving pregame show. That's right.

We want to get you ready for Thanksgiving one week prior to Thanksgiving. Do you know the holidays are fast approaching? Yeah, for sure. We're trying to give an advanced notice here on that, on the holidays, on Thanksgiving. In advance notice, I imagine the natives would have appreciated. So like your mom won't let you have pizza on Thanksgiving. We're going to give you pizza the week prior. So we're in Arlington.

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Yeah. And so we want to have people out for lunch, and we will offer half off for your lunch. Are we doing that? Yeah. We talked about this last night. Well, I put it in the email for the details for the graphic and the flyer. So the dumb zone, you just show up to say your dumb zone list. So this isn't like, and I want to make this clear, this isn't like Kanye Roso said to us, hey, you know what?

No. We're going to offer 50% off. This was a Jake idea. He said, I care about the people so much now. Like, Jake's changed so much. Why don't I have to sound like such a British cigarette whenever I... Because when you call me, you always have quiver voice. And you're just like, you know what?

This support means so much to me that... I just need people to like me and I've always been able to buy friends. Can I do it now? You're like, what if we just paid for half of everyone's meal? And I said, that's a bonkers idea. Are you sure? And I'm like, Dan, it doesn't even make sense on paper. I've run the numbers.

It's a bad idea. I say we do it. Eyeballs popped out of my skull for a moment, but then quickly came back. It was like a rubber bandy type thing. Why did you go Auga? Yeah, and I just, my head spun, and I wasn't really sure if you were serious, and I thought, you know what, this is one of those, this guy's baked, I'll talk to him tomorrow. But no, apparently 50% off your meal.

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Okay. As usual. It's nice to have a relaxing no-caboy weekend. It's very nice. Well, I can't remember the last time I watched the Cowboys on a Sunday. Oh, I mean, yeah, I guess. But so I'm really enjoying TC my NFL Sunday ticket, which I bought after you were there watching the Bears game on your phone. He's a great product.

Neither one of you, many times in my life I thought in the moment these guys are wrong, but I'll be damned. It usually comes around. Yeah, no, I was enjoying it yesterday. Got to see, well, I'll tell you later about Shador Sanders. I can't blow that now Anyway, things that are back YouTube TV Yeah

YouTube TV is back I got that $20 credit though bro Am I already too late to cash it? I drove down to Mexico and spent it all It was great I had a wild weekend with that $20 No, I don't think you're too late to cash it They sent an email out

I got the email, my wife was on me yesterday about it I'm like, what? You've never cared about $20. Well, now she knows you're paying for half of the people's food at the Cane Roso Thursday. That's true. I wanted to complain about another Hollywood depiction. And I saw this when I was watching the morning show. Do you watch the morning show? I haven't seen this season, but yeah.

I'm caught up through this season. But I have a list of Hollywood depiction complaints. One of them is like the movie fire. I'm a big fire guy and I know what it takes to keep that fire looking good and once you get that piece of wood in there and it's looking perfect it'll last about five or six minutes

and then it'll start to falter but a movie it's all it's just roaring the whole time of course they you know anything with fire seems to be bad in a movie or TV show like when they could light a torch on lost or something

he's just like Sawyer just takes his shirt off rubs it around a stick, and all of a sudden they got this perfect torch walking around for hours. No idea. Try to make a torch at home. That's why Castaway is your favorite movie. It's the only realistic movie. Right.

There you go. Don't you like Castaway? No. Damn. Things sucks. Do you like Forrest Gump? Better than Castaway, by a lot. Oh, my God. This is ridiculous.

Anyway, it's the Hollywood depiction of drug use. Yeah. Yeah, the same thing with alcohol, but yeah, go ahead. But, yeah, this particular one had Billy Crutt up. He is, well, you know who he is if you watch the morning show. And he's doing Coke with the head of the network. And so they start doing Coke. And now we get into a cocaine montage.

Yeah. And which will include just drinking straight out of like a whiskey bottle. But then also is, now this is the head of the network is a lady because it's all woke, you know. Of course. Yeah. And she's up on top of the table, like dancing. And then he's like, whoa, and they're just screaming and Frank the tanking it. And it's like, I don't know.

I think you're kind of fired up if you're doing coke. Where are they? Just in a room. Then there's no way. They're just in a single room. There's no one else around. There's not like, yeah, people imploring them or you're not going nuts at the club. I get that.

But they are just the two of them, solitary in a room. But she's dancing on the table. they're dancing, you know, he's twirling her around because they're dancing, because they're on Coke, we do stuff, dance. And I'm just watching it, like, getting upset. When the average cocaine user in America, the next scene is them just operating on your heart.

Trust me. Been to a lot of therapy and, yeah, no, it's mostly just people get into the next stage. But it's kind of like the fire thing or the gun thing. They're just, they don't have time to show, like normal situations every time they have to show it they have to make sure you know and just go it's the same thing with

alcohol hell I was even disappointed watching the studio which I loved but their mushroom episode I know these are people who have taken mushrooms their mushroom episode was insane like you would I mean it was just first of all there's no way you would make the mistake

they made on like how much you took right and then from they wouldn't have just laid the cookies out and assumed yeah and then from there everybody's acting, I don't know, but it's kind of, you know, with alcohol, I think the one you've always brought up is just to have a cup of coffee. Oh, and now you're sober. Maybe too, but it's like that.

Of course, that's from, who's your guy behind you with, what's his name? Goldblum? Yeah, Goldblum. Isn't that? Oh, Jurassic, or Independence Day. It's his dad. His dad, yeah. Judd Hirsch, who just has a bottle of whiskey the whole time, but.

But all of a sudden, he sobers up and then creates the, uh, then creates the, uh, program that can save the world. Yeah, but like if you see movies or whatever where they depict real drug usage, it's cool because you're like, yeah, that's pretty much what it, that guy's just getting through the day. But I think it's what gives drugs a bad name is because of the Hollywood depiction. It started with Reefer Madness, of course. You know, but it's, oh my gosh, this is what drugs do to people. And like you said, especially for Seth Rogen.

If you're someone who has done it, then you should be able to more accurately depict it. But I suppose that's just like if you watch a sports movie, you will pick that apart. Like, oh, that's stupid or a show about radio. You know, you always said that about Frazier. You always really. Yeah, but now it's in our wheelhouse of drugs.

Christmas lights are up. Turned them on yesterday to look at them. Congratulations. And turned them off. And they will not be on again until the day after Thanksgiving. Wow, Blake is in your head. Why? I don't know.

I don't want to say anything rude, but. It's set. You're looking over here to where this normally isn't being like, there's the answers. What do you mean? He's just, there's a code of people who don't like the encroachment of Christmas. I mean, to the logical end, why didn't he do it in September? Do it whatever you feel right. Why, why on earth would you care what other people in your life think about when you put up your Christmas lights?

Because I'm the one, like he said, I'm judging others for doing it. So I'm going to put it up because it was warm. And I look at the forecast and it looks like we're in the 50s for the next couple weeks. And I'm going to be busy. We've got a lot to do. We're going to Agiland. We're going to, you know. No, we're going to Austin.

Aguiland that day. Anyway, I thought I was getting ahead of things and I just wanted to let everybody know. You know, I pack a week before I leave. Respect. But if you've already got them up, why? You turn them on because hypothetically Blake Mike Drive-by? And it feels weird mid-November to have that. What would you do?

It's just on the big wall. If T.C. walked in today and was like, hey, Merry Christmas, man. Right. Do you want me wishing you Merry Christmas? If you feel like it? Should we get past Thanksgiving first? You can if you want to. There are no rules.

As he said, why not September? If you felt like doing it then, you should do it then. Okay, well, I don't. Yeah. And I feel like doing what I'm doing. And now you're criticizing me. for that and you're not letting me live my best life. It's normally whatever

it gets brought up. It's, well, Blake says. Well, it's not because of Blake. It's, I agree with Blake on this one. You should not have, should not have Christmas decorations before Halloween, yet I saw that in Home Depot.

I have a friend who lives nearby, Dr. Chuck, that has the permanently installed lights, and he'll flip him on, I I think in the October 1st, but he can change the color of the lights. So whenever I first criticized them for October 1st lights, he goes, those aren't Christmas lights.

They're brown, they're fall lights. Okay. I don't think that. Can you have a brown light? I don't know that I've ever seen it. I'm sure it exists. I would think you'd get like a, yeah, a brown and orange combo. Yeah.

Man, if my kid found out that existed. They're not the red and green. Okay. I know this is stupid, but okay, just we accept that there are, okay, for this month we put lights on our house. Okay, for this month some people put inflatables in their house. It's not out of the realm

of possibility that you just had lights on your house 12 months out of the year and different, you just did different shit red, white and blue in July? Yeah, it's July. You got your independence lights up? Do you have your, what, green light? Can you see a head? That's a possibility for the future, right? That's what I'm saying.

That's Chuck's life. You got your Cinco de Mayo lights, a little red, green and white for the month of May. I don't know. Pink in February. If you could put them up and then, yes, just use your computer to change what we're doing here. There you go. Here's red, white and blue. Your kids can mess around with it.

This is a business idea. Sharks? You're behind the market, I'm telling you. All right. With the app, though. Clayton, you got a report? I do. I have a great recommendation for the folks out there.

and uh it'd be go to connor rosa on friday night or saturday night after 5 p.m he's right i heard brisket lasagna it is probably the best lasagna i've ever had wait where at conne rosa rosa oh really yeah i saw it on the menu on the wall last night it's a weekend special though so weekend special but it is d delicious perfect amount of brisket in there so you're not getting too smoky. You didn't even have Jake paying for half of your meal. I don't need Jake to pay

for half my meal. I'll patronize that place on my own dime, buddy. He just walks in. Yeah, I'm Clayton. Yeah, you probably know me. Yeah, I was here setting up a remote. I did go back to that same

Conner Rosa a couple days after we were there. Yeah, I know. Fantastic. Definitely knew it was me. And then things that are back. I think SNL might be back, boys. Oh, no. Really?

Yeah. They've been hitting some pretty heavy jokes in the last, like they're very topical. They're going after Trump. I saw the open. The open was exceptional. Yeah. What was it this week? Just Epstein.

Okay, because last week I was struggling with, and like the Shane stuff was kind of, and then I heard him talk about it. And he's like, yeah, they write all of it for me. I just show up. They didn't have to do anything. I'm like, I get to hell. Yeah. It was like one or two funny lines.

but I did see the very non sequitur Sebastian Menacekelko sketch from this weekend where Glenn Powell's having a bachelor party and it appears the entire concede of the sketch is I have one more friend I didn't tell you guys about he's Sebastian Menacekelko or however you say the name and the Latino guy clearly just on the cast has a good Sebastian which if you can get is great and they're like we'll just write this sketch it was just and it felt like they used to do that where they would have literally... Yeah, what do you do? I can do this.

Like, I got this. We'll build it around that. The Jay Moore, Christopher Walken, Psychic Friends Network, great example. Exactly. One of my favorites. Exactly. Bert Reynolds, would that be one? Yep.

Yeah. Celebrity Jeopardy. Celebrity Jeopardy was just a vehicle for that. You're right. Yeah, you're exactly right. I don't know. I know people say it's a rebuilding year, but I also know they have some people I like. Yeah, they've got some young talent that are...

contributing pretty much every show. They got a guy from Kill Tony, Dan. And a little guy from TCU. All right. Yeah, so give it a shot. All right, quit yelling at me. Well, maybe try it, and I won't. I did watch.

You told me to watch a chair company, right? Did you tell me or no? I've told you, yeah, chair company's great. Yeah, I'm still just sitting. Boreen, I think, yeah. I didn't have a productive TV consumption weekend. Oh, no. Part of what I did, though, and if we don't get to TCs fully, then we'll make time at some point.

But part of what I did this weekend was I went out with Foody C.K., horny single Amy, and Ross of Ross's rowdy bees. And I took, I guess, like a beekeeping class. We did a story about this guy who had removed, I don't know, a zillion bees from some house. over in East Dallas that it was his guy's parents' house or something. So you're wearing the big white suit. Yeah. Look at him in the suit.

The big beekeeper suit with the mesh over your face so you can see everything. It's not a bee beard. Like when we joke about like getting covered in bees, you're not covered in bees. You're just surrounded by bees. Well, there is a bee, there is a thing

where people have put a bee beard on. Yeah, yeah. And people, there are people who do this with no. No. and you're wearing regular pants so you could get stung in your in your legs because that's why he was like you need to wear jeans don't wear

Yeah can they sting through jeans Uh not really Okay But he said you know if you've got If you had like yoga pants on You could be in trouble Sweatpants Mine are like kind of jeans

But anyway So beekeeper outfits Not just for sex Who would have known? Yeah but it's a little I couldn't catch the name of the app or search he said he used but there's some sort of service homify is what I thought he said where

they'll contact people like a beekeeper and be like hey you have a beekeeping business would you like to show people how to do this maybe you have like a welding business and they'll be like hey you want to hold a welding class and or you want to do because it's just another revenue stream for this guy which I thought was pretty cool like his main job is bee removal and they grow they harvest bees i got a thing of honey oh look at that let us try some honey while we were out there like right from the is that the point of harvesting bees yeah so much like with chickens i think that there is the product but there's also well i definitely know this with bees i'm not sure about but there's a lot of benefits to having them in your in your

yard like you could really i think do this people do it as hobbyists now and if you have like a half acre to an acre or more. He said you can just put these little boxes in the back and they'll just, like they pollinate your flowers, they'll make your garden great, they kill bugs, and you don't have to do anything because if you're not trying to sell the honey, they live off of their own honey. He's like, just come check on it every, what do you say, a couple weeks or month? Yeah, he said they have like a rotation, so it's like once a month, they only harvest it twice a year. But here's the thing, folks. As we learn in the world of business, everyone is cheating.

And by that I mean, not only will they remove bees from your home. Not only will they sell you a beehive. They will sell you that beehive and then you can pay them to maintain it. And you can keep the honey. And you can also keep the tax exemption that you get by having bees on your property, which classifies you as a different level of homestead, and he's like, I got people, he's like, they don't see the bees at all. He's like, they got bees. We come out, we service the bees. What's this tax exemption gets you? I don't know, but he made it sound. He was like, oh, yeah. It's a ag exemption. How significant is it? Probably depends on your square footage. Where are you going to put your bees then? He's got so much bee space. He, because I saw

like the radius of the bees. It's not much. And they, they're chill. They're, not, they're honeybees. You know, bumblebees are a little scarier because they're bigger, but these are like tiny little, they just stay in the back, dude. You say I have bee space. You have bee space, definitely. You're in a bee space, a conducive area. I had a friend who dabbled in beekeeping. It's a thing, Dan, much like the suburban chicken thing. Well, no, I have a neighbor who bee keeps in the woods over there by the lake. Okay, yeah. So TC and I having friends who do this, our age people are like, I think you're into beekeeping.

He did it like with a lady who had a beekeeping business. And she got stung repeatedly and started having more and more extreme reactions. I remember this. And the doctors told her that if she kept on beekeeping, she would die. And she did not stop. And I don't know where it stands now. It's not like she died at the end of this story. But she was just too dedicated to beekeeping to listen to the doctor's advice.

I mean, can't stop, won't stop. I don't know Ross personally from Ross's rowdy bees, but I feel like you're never taking him away from the hive. Like, it's in him. He's in them. Has he had a ton of bee stings? Oh, yeah. We asked him a number.

He's like, I don't know, thousands and thousands. He's like, I have no idea. See, I'm surprised you're really promoting this. It was just cool. But last I saw you, you were eking in terror like a 1950s housewife who saw a spider up on the table when you saw the mud-dobbers in my house. You ever read? There was a book produced some hundred-plus years ago

called The Jungle by Upton Sinclair. I just happened to demand my work environment be safe for me in control. That doesn't mean he's about to say it again. Don't make him say it again. Your work environment, you went to beekeep for work. I selected that, yes, I guess this is all work. But my point is having things with stingers flying around the day.

That drive, you got to write off the gas. That drive, bro. Once I learn about that ag thing, buddy, there's so much nonsense. We're all going to have bees and... Yeah, power walls, F250s because they're over the weight limit. Even for taxes. Like, a lot of them are just, they just lease the bees. They don't even own the bee.

They're leased bees. They just... They're basically like homeschool or, you know... It'll be like Fairleast.org. Like, you've... Will we be doing spots for... Releasing Bees is a lot better than buying. Cut on the goddamn B middleman and go right to fair bees.

Isn't that? It's a form of slavery, though, isn't it? Yeah, no. Can you own a... And let me tell you something. You can own a dog. They work. Yeah, but the dog...

Not for the purposes of chattel property. Yeah, yeah. Dude, let me tell you this is also, and I was not baked. Own a cow? But it will make you feel baked. Cows closer. If you just watch them work and the level of... I mean, can you play the video again and get a look at,

I mean, you see this all the time with, like, spider webs or anything that animals do where it's, like, perfectly symmetrical, like, the, the, the, oh, yeah, yeah. It's insane, Dan. Like, you could put this thing under a, like, AI thing to measure for, are all these the same length, and it would hit 100, out of 100. It's perfect. And you just watch them all working there together.

He's teaching you about the bees. They got one queen. there per each one of those little slots which are one queen how do you know if a queen is born uh they monitor it very tightly you know right away i don't know how it works in the wild i guess in the wild they know the bees the queen look different did you see it yeah it's bigger but it's not at least in the case of honeybees big jugs yeah yeah yes does have a big abdomen it does have there's a crown basically but i would not have seen it if he had not pointed it out it's not that distinct, but it's bigger.

And then he then just goes on to explain, I mean, if you think we're getting it bad, you know, the male, especially the cis white male. Oh, sure. You know who has it bad is a male bee. Because we're talking about the most matriarchal society. 95% of them are women. That's what they want to put in. Oh, so there's a lot of women bees that aren't the queen?

Yeah, but all they do is support the queen. And the drone, the male bees, will have sex and die. And if they can't have sex, then the, or if they don't need them, then the females just kill them. They're just fodder. That's what they're trying to do to us. I know. And the queen thing is interesting because, you know, if it dies, it's kind of like when you kick over an ant hill, you're like, damn. They probably work pretty hard on that.

Like, if the queen dies, they're way screwed and behind the curve. You know, they got to, in this case, they get another one. They'll put another one in there. But in the wild. They have to go search for a queen. Or wait for another one to be born. And they said that a bunch of them will be born at once. And they have like a little period where they select which one.

I don't know how. The lady bees have a little period? There's a duration of time where it's like this is the, it's like rush for sororities where they're going to pick a queen. And the other ones, they kill. They kill the late. The ones that don't make it. Um, queens, yeah. Damn.

Yeah. So I don't know that we want to totally mirror bee society. The dudes are getting laid a lot. Yeah, but then we can die right away. Yeah, but at that point. How much getting laid would you trade for dying immediately? You don't have to take care of the kids if you don't want. Like the queen bee won't mate with anyone in her own colony.

So she leaves. That's the other thing. Flies up in the air, mates with as many drones as she can. She put it right in the male drone's faces from her own thing. Dude, you know what that is? That's the hot girl in high school. The hot girl in high school, she's not dating anyone in our school. Right.

She's going to find a guy who plays freshman basketball at the community college. Yeah, another school or a college guy. This beast from Frisco. Like, I just thought that wasn't fair. Not that I was going to get the hot girl at high school. But someone. Right. I just wanted one of my guys to get it.

Because then whoever he was dating, now she's free. Right. There's a chain here. Yeah. And at the bottom of the chain is someone you. might date. Yeah. She drives right over to the other school, dressed all slutty, and just gets, gets it knocked

out. But terrible. Yeah. Well, if you got bees or you need bees, hit up Ross. He was, I looked up, there was a story on Fox 4. I'm actually interested in that tax thing. So what would they pay, what do you have to pay to lease the bee compared to the tax savings compared to what are you going to?

get stung two or three times a year? You might. Because I got the bees on my, and then my neighbors are going to get stung a little bit. No. They don't? No, I'm telling you, dude, this is a pretty chill operation. Bees are very, you don't mess with them,

they don't mess with you. Most of the time when you see bees, you're going into their space. You know, like this is a situation where you put them in their space, leave them alone, they don't leave. You can have great flowers.

The flower thing is, it's pretty sweet. They just skis. skit-skied all over your whole... And it actually makes them... Way blue vet. Yes. For real.

More bountiful. More full. It's looking like you might have a tough time. This is a very cursory glance, but I think it's saying most of the time you need at least 10 acres for an ag exemption. Oh.

But it might be less for bees. Who knows? What if we added up all our acres? That is a great idea. Yeah, put it all under... Probably still doesn't get to 10. Tens a lot. I could throw some.

him in there. Okay, yeah, Clayton will help you get the 10. Yeah, he might have like this underground bunker with... Do you have a bunker? As long as you don't know where it is, he'll let you have that 10. My only other quick things, we got a gymnastics mat for our living room, and I

highly recommend this. Welcome. You've done this a long time ago? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not as big as I'd like. I do wish we're bigger. So I'm thinking about getting a second one, maybe somehow tying them together, but if you, especially if you don't have carpet, but even if you have carpet, if you got a little boy, and in his case, it sounds like his little girl was into it,

you need to just buy one online. It's the best purchase we've made for the house. Because you can tackle and wrestle on it, and it's not freaking wood. And from what I know about your boy, he doesn't care if it's that or wood or... No, but my knees do. Metal or like... But I never thought of this before. Because he was diving into...

Yeah, I know. One quick note here, my wife is trying to implement Dan's shoes off in the house at all times thing, and I finally figured out. I get it. It makes sense. I want to be clean. There's a feeling of I'm done when I take my shoes off that I don't like. Finally this weekend, I realize she's like, why the fuck are your shoes on? You've been, and I'm like, you know what? It's because I thought about taking them off like 20 minutes ago, but I have stuff to do. It feels like shoes off means like belt off. I'm just always so confused why people want to wear shoes inside the house. I want

to spend the least amount of time in shoes possible. Because what if I need to go back outside real quick? I feel like that's always always a possibility. The only time I think about wearing shoes in the house or what reinforces my thought is when I am in a bathroom. A public bathroom and I'm standing at a

urinal and if the ladies listening won't understand but there's always it's a good residual that builds up there's there's there's urine on the ground there's a little puddle

every bat even the cleanest bathrooms you're going to find a little something down there and then you think about oh okay this is these shoes that I'll be you know jumping on my bed in later

or whatever I don't know but like and you've you've stated facts that if you're outside like all of grass is just pee it's just dogs and animals But here I am out there

Of course I'm not You know Wear my shoes in the house then after being outside But I will walk out in the grass barefoot So I can do a little grounding Yeah Yeah, that's important You, I mean you're making some dent in it

By doing it the way you do But I just, it occurred to me I just have And I'm like Tom I'm like grible at home dude I'm fast walking around back and forth Trying to look big Oh maybe you'll go

You know what I mean Just appear busy Like a radio producer What if you just started going barefoot outside? Would you feel like then I can just get things done all the time? Because I'm now always barefoot. We had a lady in our neighborhood growing up. I later found out she was a big alcoholic.

But she was always walking the neighborhood with her big cup, probably like a Dickie's barbecue cup with split lip filled with phronsia, something like that. She never wore shoes. And she would walk up and down. the street and like through people's yards if you do it your feet will become strong like hers but you'll be an alcoholic you said right up putting all these things together um okay let's do this from the wonderful world of sports

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Live from Cincinnati. Were you in Pittsburgh yesterday? I was indeed, yes. Actually, I pulled off a great heist, made it an hour early, just so I could be on with you guys. T.C., I haven't seen you in such a long time. It is great to see you, my friend. Hey, Ben.

Great to see you. Is Texas high school football days, or what are we talking about here? I think you had T.C. had me and like Mike Roach on a pod like eight years ago. Yeah, yeah. We did that. Yeah, yeah. Both y'all did. And we've seen each other at various sporting events at times. Yes. Yes. But I've been out of DFW a minute though. So I still let the record state that I've done more drive time now considerably in Sincerely DFW than I have done in Sincere. So always a pleasure,

guys. Yeah, Ben has thoughts on the Cincinnati. Sports Radio. radio scene. I was never into that. I used to listen to WLW back in the day, and that's where Chris Collinsworth was on. Is he still on there or no? No, it's Lance McAllister, does WLW. I really enjoy going on there. I actually do them a good amount. Definitely. It's crazy. The kind of history, Bob Trumpy, I believe, tracks that right? Trumpies at W.L.W. So Mike McRiley, also on the beat, just walked in the press conference room. A crazy story. Bob died recently. It was a Bengals tied end. We put it in the story. One of the biggest, things he did as a broadcaster, worked at Super Bowls, Olympics, Rider Cups. One woman in the 80s

called in and said that she was going to commit suicide. And so Trumpy kept her on the phone for multiple hours. People started calling in. They got rid of breaks. And eventually they were able to get the woman to give her location. And so live on air. And then they were able to go and the police were able to go and get her. And so that remains one of the heroic feats on his Wikipedia page. I'm like, listen, as much as what he did on the field, I feel like we've got to include that in his legacy. That is crazy.

I'd love to hear that audio if it's out there sometime. How much of it? Well, I'd like to skim it. Yes. A little perusal. Handed to an intern to cut up the highlights for me. I don't know. It's an interesting radio story.

And we have, are you okay? No. we wanted to reach out to have you on just a few weeks ago when the Cowboys acquired Logan Wilson but then there's just so much more that has been happening here with with the Bengals where are we on the Spitgate 2.0 has anybody talked yet? No I think what's the time is it air 11. Eastern so the locker room will open at about 46 minutes and then we will see if Jamar Chase has anything to say about what happened as you saw I asked him point blank I said listen man Jalen said you

you spit on him. And he said, I never opened my mouth towards that man. And I did not spit on him. And I think now we can see there's a contrary video evidence. So what's crazy is that Jamar has made a very concerted effort. They voted him a captain this year to basically not do things he's done before. He got into like a spat with Minka Fitzpatrick like three years ago and flipped him the double birds through his mouthpiece. And what Jalen kind of escalated yesterday to that. I mean, you could tell like Jalen, they could not get him off the field. Like he kept going after him. They had already been tossed. He was still trying to go back at Jamar. I'm like, something didn't seem right there. So yeah, definitely. We'll see what happens here, but very

honestly surreal because you'd seen Jamar really growing that way for this scene. And then now for that to happen, honestly, one of the worst things you could have, not just for he might miss a game against the Patriots, but for what you're trying to build moving forward. I love the, that's a common bit across sports, though, is the wild guy. Let's vote him as a captain. We'll name him as a captain and kind of like let him know that now we're putting more trust in him and this and that and you know and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't like you think they would have made micah captain this year trying to do that yeah i mean didn't they do that with cd lamb yeah but with him i don't know i never really thought of him as like a problem but it's all i know but still it's always like

this will make him focus the big cowboys leadership academy is locker next to dac cd got locker next to DAC for a while. Yeah. And who is it? Is it Diggs now? Man, I don't know. I haven't kept up with it this year. But speaking of that, though, in the locker room, Logan Wilson steps in. I can't tell you I know a ton about this guy other than he was a big part of the Super Bowl year.

You know the name, but we don't know really anything about the guy. And this is kind of a Cowboys defense that there really aren't any names, especially with Diggs not really want to take on that leadership role. Is Logan Wilson that kind of guy? What sort of guy off the field or room-wise are we getting? Well, I think it's interesting. I remember talking to him after like probably week three or week four. And it became very clear that they were looking at probably rotating him out at linebacker.

And I said, you know, how do you kind of feel about this? He said, listen, I'm only going to try to do what I can. Like understandably, I see kind of what might be on the wall. But you can't let yourself worry about that because it's going to drive yourself insane. And then when he ended up getting benched, you know, in that he actually did a very good job of trying to mentor the guy who took his spot, a rookie linebacker, Barrett Carter, the fourth round pick out of Clemson. And it's not always common that you see guys really want to go out and do that.

And, you know, he basically told Barry, he said, listen, I know you're kind of taking my job, but that's not going to change anything in our relationship. If you need anything, I'm always around that when Logan's trade became announced, the day after Jerry told everybody that they had a silent trade, which still one of the craziest things I've ever seen, you know, Barrett, you know, Barrett said, listen, he really helped me out a lot. He was good for that room. He's going to be great for Dallas. He's a guy. I think that if you have younger guys, that's the kind of person you generally want them to be around. I think here, just such a weird spot with this defense and kind of how

they've turned it over. He was really one of the last of the old guard from those really good years in 21 and 22. But so following the Cowboys here, we're seeing they trade for this guy who was benched by a defense that's worse than their defense. So why should the Cowboys actually, or should they even be excited that they're getting Logan Wilson? I'm curious to see what happens with Logan in Dallas. I think that when you look at it, he's probably on paper still, you know,

the Bengals had to go win a game. I think Logan Wilson's probably your best linebacker in the middle. They made a decision that they wanted to try to get a spark. They knew that they were going to have to lean on these rookies at some point. They drafted a guy in the second round, Demetrius Knight, who got benched, I think, yesterday to start the game. And, you know, who had been that guy since day one. And then Barrett Carter, who's kind of struggled in space. And, you know, being a rookie, it is very tough to go out there and play, you know, at an NFL level.

So with Logan, I think the question is how much does he have left in the tank? You know, he, I think, I can't remember exactly what the injury was. I should have prepped on the plane right over here. But he had a lower body injury that he suffered that he missed all of last year. and I'm just wondering how where he's at physically, how much he's worked back from that. I think that's going to be the biggest question mark about him moving forward. But Logan's generally where he needs to be,

I think in that Cowboys front, especially when you have Quinn Williams up there, that's going to make his job a lot easier when you've got that Mike backer who's got somebody who can eat up those gaps in the middle. I think that's something that was a problem in Cincinnati. It continues to be an issue. So, you know, I think how Logan does

will honestly tell us in Cincinnati a lot about kind of what maybe happened here and if there are bigger problems that then maybe just a veteran who needed a fresh start. I thought it was funny. You played like audio of his podcast or something, his wife's podcast and there,

it was the same as the Micah Parsons bit, right? Where they were kind of crying about leaving. They had requested the trade, right? A lot of factors, but yeah. That's correct. But here's the thing, though. I don't think that Logan had any intention. of wanting to leave. The trade came whenever they said, listen, we're benching you. And you know,

you got to understand guys essentially, they want to be somewhere. A, they're wanted, but B, they feel like they can contribute. And I think that plays a big role in this. And I think with Micah in talking to folks, I think that's a factor as well, you know, when you're valued properly, when you feel like that you're, that's a place that you want to, you know, they see a future for you there. You're going to generally want to stay there. I think it became very clear that Logan did not have a future in Cincinnati anymore. And ultimately, you want to be. able to try to play as much as you can, especially for a guy at his age. I believe this is a sixth year in the league.

And I believe he was probably what, 22, 23 when he got in the league out of Wyoming as a third rounder. So that's really what happened. I think in a perfect world, he would have stayed here. And I don't think anybody at the beginning of the year really thought that the Bengals were going to trade him. I mean, the Bengals didn't even think that because you go look at it. They gave him a contract extension a couple years ago, hoping that he could be kind of

the rock for that defense. and it just didn't materialize the way they wanted it to. I mean, without Burrow getting hurt, he may still be there. You know, if they feel, you don't think so? I was just thinking if they were a more competitive team, like if they had two or three more wins, if they were, you know, six and four instead of three and seven, but maybe not.

No, I don't think so. I don't think Burrow being healthy or not had anything to do with it. And the defense just, it became clear that they wanted to try somebody else at middle linebacker. They got a guy they drafted. They wanted to try to get him developed and try to get him, those reps as much as possible and they're willing to take the lumps. You know

what you're going to get with Logan. They feel like they have better upside right now with a younger guy. But I think, you know, in the right defense, Logan can still be valuable. And I think guys in that locker and believe that as well. Okay. It sounds like a bad trade then. With everything you just said, because I don't know that this is the right defense.

Well, no, I don't. See, I don't agree with that. I think it's a matter of there's a guy who, you mean bad trade for the Cowboys? Yeah. I think they're acquiring him to be a part of something, not lead something. And he was probably paid when he signed as one of the higher paid middle linebackers in the league. Now that's not as much the case. I mean, he's probably middle of the pack or bottom third. And so you bring him in and you just hope that

he's, you hope that he's not as bad as Sandborn and Kenneth Murray. And the cost is pretty low to take a flyer on being better than Sandborn and Kenneth Murray. And it times out well with overshone coming back. And you, you're hoping. I think that he can be a guy for Marist, for overshone, for these younger linebackers. But, dude, I can't call it a bad trade if it means less 57 and 59 out there. Because that's been a tough watch this year for us on this end. Those guys have not performed. Ideally, I think you just want a backer to be in the right gap.

You know, I think that somebody once told me, an NFL coach once said, it's much like trying to find the rest, going to the restroom as a man. If you see an opening, just hit the opening, hit the gap where you can. They get in where you fit it. It's not always that is complicated to go in. And I think for, you know, sometimes you need just backers to be where they're supposed to be. Because here's a thing, especially in the run game, if a rusher sees that there's nobody in that gap, they're going to go attack that.

But even if there's a guy there, you don't know if he's going to make the play or not, it's going to affect what hole they pick, especially depending on the run scheme. So just being in the right place where you're supposed to be is half the battle for a linebacker. And especially if you play him as the middle guy, you know, not as an off. ballbacker where he might end up in a matchup against a tight end or running back. I think that's a good way to protect him. And the other aspect, too, I think it's interesting what Dallas did is they went and got Quinn and Williams.

So now, ideally, Logan Wilson and the rest of those Dallas linebackers, when you get a guy who can be really good in the interior, they're supposed to be able to eat up those gaps, take on some double teams, and put your linebackers in one-on-one situations. That's ideally what you want. I think Dallas, when you look at the totality of their moves, they made a decision and said, we are not good enough up the middle. We're not getting what we need. I think anybody in the league would have loved to have Quinn and Williams.

One of the best interior pass rushers is just a big dude who can occupy defensive offensive linemen. So it's a very interesting strategy. And like you said, Jake, it's a low cost at the end of the day. What's the, what's it like being around Joe Flacco? What's he like? An absolute dream. He's the best.

He's an old dad mode, just hanging out. You know, it's a guy who's been here, you know, been in the league for 18 years. I told him, I said, it's kind of rare that you get to pick someone's brain who's been in the NFL for that long and played really well. I mean, for the previous four-game stretch going into Sunday, the Bengals had the number one offense in the NFL since acquiring Flacco. They were number one in EPA, number one in points per game. And the fact that he went out and did what he did against the Bears two weeks ago with a sprained AC joint, I once covered one Trevor Knight in 2016 at A&M, who missed multiple weeks with a sprained AC joint. and Joe Flacco said,

ah, you know, let's go ahead and let's rub some dirt on it or whatever they did and let's go out and play and he had the best game of his career. You know, yesterday, I think, was the tough watch for him.

What was the, the Bears? It's like 49, 44, 40, something like that was like a 90 point affair. It was insane. Clearly TC knows. Bears fan. It was still a great performance.

Is TC and Bears fan? I don't think I knew this. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was born in the Chicago area. There you go. I know Notre Dame has been playing, they're having an okay year. Okay. We're hoping for big things.

Yeah, the whole Joe Flacco thing is crazy to me. Just because when he was winning a Super Bowl, I didn't think he was that good. But he had that really good stretch during the playoffs. But otherwise, and then he got the big contract, he was never, you know, he was a bit Eli to me. He was just, they had to have a great defense. He was a guy. he was the bus driver and since Baltimore

like he's gotten better like with the Browns a couple years ago it was awesome and yeah I still I still think that he's if he was there this year he'd still probably be their best quarterback on the roster

and they decided to trade them and really you think well the funny thing if you've been watching Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders yeah correct but you know whether it's him like Andy Dalton some of these other quarterbacks

that are backups they're probably pound for pound better than being the 33 to 40 quarterbacks but the issue is when you get to that age what's the rate of return on playing a veteran if you can draft a young guy you play him and see what you can get otherwise you have a bridge quarterback as a veteran but i think it's going to be interesting what happens with flaco because can he if he can still feel like he play he can play at 41 does he want to go try to start somewhere instead of being a backup and in flaco's been pretty open about how tough it is to not be a starter i mean he's just been wired that way his whole life so you know is there a team that's going to need a bridge quarterback next year

especially when you look at this 26 draft class that a lot of people hoped was going to have some some you know transformational quarterback i mean who's the best guy now mendoza out of indiana you got to get dante more out of oregon um there's going to be so many unproven quarterbacks joe flaco is going to have some you know might have some really good job security as potential starter next year all right ben well thanks for joining us today and uh we look forward to a i would imagine pretty viral clip of you guys asking, I'm sure by this afternoon we'll have seen the clip of Jamar Chase trying to explain this.

Yes, yeah, hopefully in the next 40 minutes or so, we'll see how this goes. But hey, always a pleasure, always a blast. Good seeing, y'all. Appreciate you, bud. There he goes. Texas High School Football Mafia's Ben Baby. And Dan. Were you going to say that that conversation reminded you about the power of

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Why would you get? Well, then he kind of left his legs wrapped around but fell back, like to where his legs are wrapped, and then his body fell back. I'm not saying that it looked like a stripper move, like on a pole, but that's the only thing I could think of that they would have objected to. They said it was sexual in nature? He just got fined. Could just be that

that's certainly the only time I've ever heard of someone doing that and if you're in new territory that's going to make the rule keepers uncomfortable. Yeah, they missed the extra point afterward too. And there was also one in It was a windy day in the northeast.

Boy, it was just to ask Jared Gough. But there was another, there was a Bills player scored like a 52-yard touchdown. went limp in the end zone, acted like he was, like, paralyzed, and then did, like, a two pump and got no flag. I'm very dialed in on the...

You're watching all the celebrations now, just to see. Yeah. Bad weekend for officiating. Boy, that Bill's game. I was rooting hard for Earl Baker. They had a shot, dude. There was a face mask at the end of that game that blew it. Oh, yeah.

But, you know, that's two... Here's what I would say about my general thoughts on the NFL this weekend. Just a lot of evenly match teams duking it out for fun football. Oh, yeah, it was great. Whoa, sorry. It was great.

You know, I don't know if the bucks are that much better than the Bills or the Eagles are that much better than the Lions or Rams that much better than the Seahawks, but it was just those are the teams I want to see. I hate the transitive thing that I can't figure, like the bills lose to Atlanta, and Atlanta loses to Carolina like by 30. And then all of a sudden, you know,

here we go. the freaking you know the Chiefs game was nuts I thought yeah just but Josh Allen three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns late in that game

I'm trying to remember the exact amount of time was a four minutes or so that the Tampa Bay decided to punt just the way the bills were going I thought that was idiotic just sometimes you do I guess

have a feel of the game and I didn't think there was any way that they were going to stop the bill's offense and they didn't they were down five they were is this the one you're talking about they're down five it's fourth and two at their own 40 with seven and a half minutes left you got to go for that that's where I thought what are they doing punt yeah bill scored eight plays later yeah um anyway three rushing touchdowns three passing touchdowns that's been done three times in NFL history

twice by Josh Allen. Damn. Wow. Do you know who else did it? Lamar? Otto Graham in 1954. Otto Graham is kind of like Oscar Robertson to me where I hear the name a lot and it's in insane

statistical categories but I can't really tell you much about the player. It just seems like, whoa, how did he do that all the way back then? What was he like, Grandpa? Well, I'll tell you, you have a mustache like Jake. Josh, I haven't even mentioned your mustache today. Hey, thanks. It looks great.

Oh, good. Bravo. No, it's, it's fantastic. That thing is. I may have to go today. We have some stuff to film that I've kind of forgot about. I think it's enhanced. It is out of regulation, though.

It's very close. I'm trying to keep it to the pappy. You can't get too powerful. What do you mean out of regulation? Well, you've got to keep it beyond, you can't have it go beyond the, corner of your mouth, which the bit in... What if you let it hang down? What if we drip it down, like the icicle Christmas lights? We can give that a shot. Josh Allen also had one of the funniest worst interceptions I've ever

seen at the start of that game. Trying to avoid a sack in his own end zone, simply chess past the ball. It was the Josh Allen game. Is he MVP favorite right now? He has to be. Just because Mahomes has dropped off, he was kind of right up there for a day or two. Well, I would I just say that it was... Drake May. Stafford, before yesterday. And, I mean... I think it was Stafford, Drake May,

Josh Allen, Lamar has kind of dropped out of that for sure because of injury as well. Where are we? Are you looking at it? I'm going to look it up. Okay. But I was just agreeing that Lamar has dropped out.

That's all I was saying. Yeah. It's... It's fairly wide open. Relative to most years. You worried about the Chiefs? They got the Colts next week And if they lose that game

They'd probably have to win out Just to make the playoffs They were five and five That's why I really felt confident In the Chiefs going into this week And put the triple play on that Stafford's still the favorite May is second, Allen's third

Yeah I thought the Chiefs would win And I think they could have I mean I don't know I realize I sat there live in color And watched the Broncos Have their way with my football team and their defense is awesome it's just you hear that audience he calls them my football team i just can't i can't go out there with bow nix and feel like i can't be scared of that guy but he made

enough plays yesterday he had a few to sutton yesterday that were he might be good he might be good oh you know what i meant to cut this off i didn't that last pass to sutton did you the third and 15 yeah it was insane oh my god neither team's really running the ball for shit in that game. With Kansas City, it's always the thing of, like, they'll run it like a dozen times for five yards of carry. And people are like, they should run it more. I'm like, I feel like the only way they're getting five yards of carry

is that the other team doesn't care. Yeah. And the Broncos just didn't care. You're looking for the couple times of game that you have a really light box, and if you only run it to that, then you're all right. Yeah. And Denver's defense is just nasty. Yeah.

Let's see. They got some dudes. I think Romo's just... They got Vince Joseph. Somehow Romo's just gotten so much worse. Do you guys agree? Yes. Like, I don't know what happened.

I know what happened. He's at no point prepared for the job at all. And in the first year, that didn't matter because he'd been preparing like an NFL quarterback the year before that, so all the knowledge was relevant. Now, no one is running anything that looks like what he ran. And he hasn't bothered to keep up.

He doesn't care about doing that good of a job. That makes a lot of sense. You think he's paying a Bob? You think he's got his own? No. He's got a PFF account. Even if he paid a Bob, he wouldn't read what they sent. Well, yeah, I'm just saying the process of, like, I'm aware of, like, Troy pays for a lot of stuff.

Like for subscript, you know, whatever. He's on top of his stuff. Troy cares about doing good job. Yeah, no, I feel like Troy puts a couple of hours a day into prepping for each game. I'll see Greg Olson, like, quote tweet with pretty niche football podcast that I listen to. Yeah. Like that Sumer sports thing, it's like an animal, and I'm like, this guy's, he's in it.

Greg Olson, he's Trump's that stuff, possibly too much. So the end of the game, it was, this was just at the very, very end of the game. As, and, you know, Nance wants him to say, you know, give us something about the Broncos. This is what he ended up giving. And I just thought, what did he really say here? Oh, am I not up? I guess this just isn't playing. Something's weird about my audition.

Sorry, guys. You are up. Yeah. Do you want me to try? No, I don't have... Let's just move on to another game and I'll see if I can find it. Okay. Audition's been weird today, in my opinion.

Really with you? Yeah. That's no fun. Yeah, I thought Ram Cahawks was a lot of fun. I don't know if you went into that game thinking these are the two best teams in the NFL or not but your thing has always been the Vikings have got to be kicking themselves

and like they probably are but there are more of these games in Darnold's like range of outcomes than you would like for a guy that you're going to try to win with I just think I just think Stafford against Darnold both of them are running into very good defenses yesterday. The difference is like Stafford will take care of the ball a little better.

Donald finds his, he could have had more turnovers at the four that he did have. That's the only thing I would I would say is just that the Vikings look at that and say like, I don't know if this guy can beat good defenses that take a few things away from him. I didn't realize how rare

four interception games were. The vast majority of quarterbacks starting quarterbacks this year haven't thrown four yet. And this was the first foreign reception game. of this season, and there was only two in all of last season. So it's now, like,

you know, it's never been good to throw four receptions, but to talk about Tony Romo again, I feel like he would do that. I was going to say, maybe I just got used to it as a cowboy fan. Yeah, I didn't think it was as notable as this only happens twice a year. But the other thing about the Vikings thing is

McCarthy's ass. Yeah. That's a big part of it. This actually started working. Do you care? Yeah, I'm always down to laugh at Romo. I mean, I listen to most of the game yesterday, and I've given up. I'm like, do we want to make a montage of this? He speaks in like seven drops.

He's basically just Chris Arnold or... But on T.C.'s point, he's just become more generic. Like, he's not specific about anything. And this is what I always hate about announcers that if you could sit in their chair, why is he there? Like, if you played, you know, give me something to indicate that you are more of an insider to the NFL than I am. And I don't think at the end here he did. They will meet again on Christmas night.

Who knows where that division will be at that time. But Denver is so far out in front. They've won an eighth consecutive game. They have beaten both Super Bowl teams of a year ago. also he can't focus on one thought and if he sees something running by him he'll comment on that but anyway here is the his final thoughts on the game Philadelphia and Kansas City

coming from behind in both of those games of the fourth quarter to win yet again in the thriller from behind in the fourth at a certain point you've got to start to believe in this offense I know there's been a lot of talk being where they were they're like well can this be sustainable yes it can and they did it when it counts and they actually got off to a pretty good start today

and you know Kansas City laid it on the line today it's just a really difficult place to play in Denver against this defense I just feel like he didn't really say anything there's not much there like they laid it on the line

they actually had a good start well yeah they won they ended up winning too they had a good also like he was a fine star but they got stalled out in the red zone and kick two field goals in the first two drives. But one thing that you can definitely, and I'm sure I've done this before, he had a thing in his head beforehand, and it was that this matters to the Kansas City Chiefs. They're going to go all out today, and I was listening to the game while not watching it at first.

Like, I was running, and I'm like, oh, just listening to them do the game. And the Chiefs, I don't know, they kicked it on their first drive. They kicked the field goal on their second drive, and he's like, I feel Mahomes is just in the zone. This means too much for him. He's never had to go on the road in the playoffs. Look out. He's got that look in his eye.

I'm like, well, I feel like they have three points after two drives, and he's missed like four or five throws. But listen to the end of it. Rumba at the end. The chiefs laid it all on the line. That was never not going to be his narrative. He decides what it is going into the game, and it either works or it doesn't work.

Had they won, his analysis would have been, this just meant so much to the chiefs. That's all it is. And it's very annoying. The Bears are high. I did not know the, Christmas Day is going to. That's going to be a lot of fun.

I'm going to watch that game. Broncos Chiefs at night. Lions Vikings looks kind of mad midday. I'm still going to watch that game. Cowboys commanders are at noon. That's part of the. Cowboys are Christmas too? Cowboys commanders noon.

Who? Christmas on Netflix. Who? So figure, get your presents open early, boys. God, I'm so excited. or right when you wake up. Really?

The next seven weeks of football. My kids still they claim to be scarred from the fact that they weren't allowed to open presents until noon. Here's the thing, though. They were always going to say they were going to be scarred about something.

That's what I mean. Yeah. So it's something fun like that. Yeah. By the way, to T.C.'s point on the interceptions because I like looking at these things. This year, the NFL has an interception rate of 2.1%.

So an interception is thrown on 2.1 percent of pass attention. That would be the lowest in history. That's incredible. It typically trends down, you know, because teams just take care of the ball ball. Now that's before James got a start. Because he was throwing it all over the place.

I didn't really check up on that one too much. There's a lot of, there's a few drop interceptions actually. And then he actually threw an interception that didn't that wasn't his fault. bears high atop the NFC north they are the leaders in the north

once the Lions lost they're 7 and 3 4th quarter they have a point differential of minus 6 yeah it's getting our crap pushed in against the Lions week 2 every game since that now we also could have

won by a little more than 1 or 2 points and every single one of these wins but not every it's it's been, you beat up on somebody. Yeah, just one time. Yeah, we lost by the game, 50 to the lions. And then it's been these fourth quarter, they're not an incredibly talented team. So they, in the regular balance of the game, are not good at pulling away or separating themselves. But they're very, very good. And Caleb was good last year at crunch time. They find the answers. They've, you know, every single one of these wins. It's been, it's really,

just the Cowboys game, that they've done anything other than they get the ball within two minutes, down one score, and then go down and win. I mean, it's just another division leader that, you know, beat the Cowboys. Strong, strong loss.

Shador Sanders got in. Wow. Did you see the thing? They had one of these games. I don't know if this is accurate, but I love reading it. that his quarterback rating was 13.5. And they say if he, every play, just spiked the ball into the ground,

his quarterback rating would have been 39.6. The SAT put your name on the test? That's tough. Well, but it's funny because I follow a lot of Cleveland, you know, people you know and so i i see a big browns news feed and it feels like there's been a lot of people that have wanted him to be the starter why not that's yeah that's probably it it's like dylan gabriel clearly isn't it no um so a why not and the last i remember a why not long ago with parcels around here that's where we got that funny picture in my office the brooks bollinger brooks bolinger like i think a lot

of people are calling for him to start, or maybe it was Drew Henson. Yeah. When Drew Henson was on the team, people were calling for him to start, and Parcells was, like, in the media, like, this guy is not ready, he should not start. And then eventually, the Cowboys were kind of out of the playoff picture, and they're like,

okay, you know what? It was Thanksgiving. I was at that game. The Bears game, yeah. Yeah. We're going to start Drew Henson. Everybody wants it. Go ahead. And he was, he was like Shador Sanders. He made it one half. And Dude, but the craziest thing is And then people are saying now

Like, well, he hasn't practiced with the ones all year He needed to play with the ones. I know how bad the results are But I didn't watch a lot of the game But the one play I turned it on for It was an incompletion where he looked really good See, that's the thing is I feel I was thinking about this a lot yesterday

Is he, does he take it seriously? Because Dion took it seriously And I think Dion demands that most of his college players take it seriously. It's just weird to me that is... I know that Dion talks a lot of shit and he's very flashy. But I do think he requires, like, a level of commitment and work. And I think Shador has a lot of talent. So it would seem to me that if he were to lock in like these other guys do,

like, I don't have any doubt right now about as bad as they may have been playing about, like, Cam Ward. I listen to Cam Ward talk. like the dude from the Titans and he just sounds like oh this is a guy they drafted in the top 10 he realizes this whole thing is on him like he talks like an adult you think he's going to be good

I don't know if he's going to be good I think he understands the assignment well I mean his deal came up too whenever Shador asked him to get in the studio when that one clip where they were like out throwing he was like what did I thought that was Dylan Gabriel no oh that was

he's like I play football yeah we should get the studio or something and he's like, no, I... Yeah, I practice. So, I don't know what it is with Shador because I watched him play in college and there's a lot of tools there. Now, he definitely has a really bad habit slash almost skill

of spinning himself into sex. My God, dude. Like, he's just back there. It's like Johnny, but slower. It always looks very, very bad. It doesn't, there's just somebody there. Did anyone actually have him rated as a first round pay? or was that just Deon?

No, I think that I'm trying to will it into existence. I feel like I listened to Joel Klatte towards the start of the year be like, this guy is the truth. And I would watch him play and be like, damn, dude, he's got some talent. Every single mock draft he would have pulled up before the draft had him as a first round pick. Right. Really? Yeah.

Like the day before the draft. A hundred out of 100. Like it would have been a real spicy opinion to say he was going 20th. The day before the draft? Yeah. I feel like it had already happened before then. But it doesn't matter if I have that right or not. Definitely at the start of the year,

I remember people that I trust, like Joel Clatt being like, the tools are there. Now he's a buff also, but he was playing pretty well. There's guys who have done less in college at a lower level and been able to step in and look effective in his spot. But then, you know, I heard that he took his blame for the loss. Because he, you know, I thought it was a pick to Cheeto late, but in any case. This is just not how a Tommy Reese offense is supposed to look.

He's not running it the right way. Tommy Reese their O.C. Yeah, he's, this whole year he's been in the O.C. A couple weeks ago, he got play calling duties. I heard this this week, too. You were saying he spins into sacks. at Colorado, he was sacked 52 times and 42 times in his season. It was a lot.

Now, I don't remember what Mahomes' numbers were in college, but... And people were always quick to say the Colorado line sucked. But that's what I was going to say about Mahomes. It's just, I watched him play a lot in college, and it felt like he was just running for his life slash dying at all times. There's a sack numbers if I could find him. but that was what they said about Chador and it's been a problem

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Sometimes I just go around telling people. The end part there felt like a read to me, but if you're saying that was off the dome. Also, sometimes when I make friends

with people, I'm like, if this doesn't go well, text hope in wine. Do you give a disclaimer? Yeah, and I'm like, you'll have to go to HTTP.

I become a friend with you. I get the disclaimer. This is probably not going to end well. Take a lady home. If this happens to transit over to Louisiana, we have a problem. I got a little cowboy news for you. Did you see online that Shottie had a wasp problem at his home? I did.

I was hoping. Did you help him? Yeah, no, I was hoping that all would have timed out where Ross could have gone out and helped him. I think they probably just kill the wasp. It was snakes when the season started, right? Snakes. The owl got in his house. The dog bot got bit by a snake, yeah.

Last week, or two weeks ago, the owl, and now it's a wasp situation. He also had cancer, did you know? Well, yes. Does he just live outdoors? He may. He may need Qualis. Yeah, I've seen. Qualis Roofing type stuff.

You need a roof, dude. It doesn't, listen, there's a lot of things making me feel not so great about this Cowboys season, but the fact that, as Clayton said, it does appear that a plague is being released upon a head coaching campaign. candidate that nobody really was excited about feels like a bit much. I'm surprised by how much is family Graham's. I got down a shoddy fam Graham hole this weekend. Oh, really?

How big a family? Well, it's definitely the wife, the daughter, and the son all have to Graham. Well, being the Cowboys head coach... Because that's how we found out is they'll be posting on a video of them swinging at an owl. Being the cowboy head coach and then having these incidents is probably a great way to grow your following. Oh, big time. Big time. They document their trip.

Are you saying follow the money? I am saying that. I coined that quite some time ago. I saw Quinn and Williams did a little bit of an interview. I don't think that – I'm going to play this for you real quick. Maybe this is beyond the clip, but I saw somebody weighing in on Iber Fluse's defense and what this says about it. How have you caught up onto what they want from you? this defense and is it different than what you had with Aaron and the Jets in any kind of way?

Or is it the same? It was definitely easy to catch up, man. When it comes down to football, I really trust in my football IQ. That should be the lead, right? That is so easy to... He's an all-pro because his IQ is high. And the things that I can do, especially coming down to remembering the playbook, remembering what they want me to do.

And it probably took me one or two days to get the whole playbook down and to come out here and just fit right in, man. That was the part that I saw him. That it took one or two days. I refluse's playbook is just, oh, I don't know. I glanced over at it a couple of times, which is bullsh. The guy's a great coordinator. It's not his fault, but it is funny the way that it went.

If you're a delinement, it's like learn what they call the stunts. There's not much there. End of assignment, right? There's not much there. Like, he's not playing safety. Right. It's about as, especially that one tech, about as simple as it's going to be. I did think it was cool to learn that he did a mock game because he hasn't played in a long time.

Why? Did they have a buy? Yes. Oh, and then he had another buy? Yeah, so he was asked about that. And, you know, basically, I think he went through a normal week like he was going to play, then put pads on, and he's like, I play about 40 snaps, so they track him running like 40 sprints so that he gets the feel for the big man running today.

But Clarence asked him this question, because I think the Jets were just on TV, and he didn't get to play. And it's just kind of an awkward interaction. Did it get a little antsy last night watching those guys play? He said, did you get a little bit antsy last night watching those guys play? But also, Quirner Williams, did a, who was it at the ticket that we used to play that drop of somebody? Classic rock band. A lot of them died.

Leonard Skinnered. Okay. Yeah. Did it get a little antsy last night watching those guys play? I'm a, to my Jets, right? Yeah. I'm sorry. but we're all having fun

we are having fun I'm very excited to see him play it does feel like probably good that you're facing Vegas first with this new collection because you wouldn't think

they could kind of hit the ground running right no I mean but also it can't be worse you had a death of a player and you've added that was worse two new pieces So you're, yeah, you've got new pieces all over the place. Yeah, you got Revelle playing the night.

How, what's the emotions going to mean to tonight? We've talked a couple times. Could be negative, could be positive. Either way, you're going to give them a pass. Yeah. If they just come out lifeless, then you would have to remember. That's a weird way to say it, I guess, lifeless. But you come out not playing well, but they also have come out not playing well.

Well, most games this year. Right. So would you blame that on the death? Would you blame that on new players? Would you blame that on whatever? I just wonder how quickly they can be better. Everything I read seems to indicate they're prepping for next year. Yeah.

That is definitely the way that it seems. Which, you know, is kind of crazy because it still seems it's about mid-season, right? A little past. The math ain't mathed, man. As far as what, the playoff situation? Yeah. It's tough. They'll get tonight.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, well, if they don't, then... Let's see where they were... Yeah, three, five, and one. Eh. Yeah, it just doesn't look good. Uh-uh. And, uh, by the way,

if you were hoping for a chance to steal a victory on Thanksgiving against the chiefs, I would have preferred to not have them in, run the table or miss the playoffs for the first time in Mahomes' career mode. Yeah, they're going to be playing for draft pick by then. This will be fine. Let's see. Are you concerned about Brock Bowers? Yeah, of course.

If Trey McBride was able to do what Trey McBride did, that's a big part of this Cowboys' defense failings. But that was also a big part of having Kenneth. I just looked this up. Kenneth Murray has played 610 snaps this year. That is the most of Ennis Cowboys' Cowboys' any Cowboys defender. Oh, my God.

Number two, 480. Kenneth Murray sucks so bad. He's played more snaps almost than anyone in the NFL this year on the defensive side of the ball. And he's got, you know, a horrible grade. But I don't need, you know, we see it. So it's rude. So the thing about Logan Wilson is he's not Kenneth Murray.

It's not like he's going to sell you on. It's like, yeah, they had to get rid of him. But he's also like $18 million, not Kenneth Murray, where. the Bengals decided I could draft a fourth round player and be not Kenneth Murray. Guys, I need you to understand that right now, Jesus Pete, man, this is insane. The Cowboys have played nine games, and he's played the 23rd most snaps in the league. The guy in first has played, everyone else has played 11 games because they played this weekend and haven't had a buy. Kenneth Murray is playing more snaps per game on defense than anyone in the NFL.

I, in general, kind of think that Iber Fluse is not incompetent and just has a terrible roster to work with, but that's probably the most damning thing I've heard from Iber Fluse. That, that to me says that he's asleep at the wheel. You can't sub out one of the worst players on the defense. For who's Sandborn? Dude, anyone. Just someone who's got fresh legs. Like, there's no way that the optimal personnel usage is every other defensive coordinator

plays their best player, or their most played player, this many snaps, and Kenneth Murray needs to be a couple standard deviations above. That's not, there's no possible scenario where that's the best use of the personnel. Next year. Sanborn's great. All right, you guys want to take a nice break? Sure. Hey, do you have a second?

I'm sorry? Do you have a second, just to talk? Yeah, do you tell you said Keith. No, no, no, I just said, do you have a second? I'm with, my mom has a fifth grade class, and she just had them write down some questions that they wanted to ask a major league baseball player. Is it okay if you answer a couple?

Sure. What position did you want to play growing up? First base. And how did you pick your number? I like even numbers in the 30s. And why is the number 69 so funny? I don't know. I just watched some Billy Manning.

When did you know you were good enough to play in the majors? I don't know. I think I always believed it in college, but I didn't know until I actually got called up. And how many girls have you kissed? Are we serious right now? Yeah, just it's the kids. They formulated it. I think some of these are kind of silly. Probably about 100. And what's your favorite sex position? A fifth grade? I don't think so.

Go ahead. Do you play any golf? Yes, lots. You know? Are you serious or no? Is this a joke? Am I on camera or something? No, I mean, it's cool if you don't want to.

Go ahead. That's fine. And then just, do you have a favorite candy? Yeah, Kit Kat, I guess. Thank you. Yeah. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. It's untouchable.

To answer his question, is he's a joke? Yes, obviously, dumbass. Big man now, aren't you? Got all the comebacks right now. I've been 10 years to think about it. I'm ready now. 16 years. 3.5 wins above replacement.

If you want to hear the full story behind that, you'll have to search Randy Chote's birthday. And then our show on that day, we had T.C. on to explain why Why he got banned from the ballpark in Arlington. The, was he on the Marlins then? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, then he runs to the Marlins PR guy. Jack McKinna just taken back over.

Oh, this guy said stored sex to me. Hey, speaking of sex. Oh, yeah. It's Sam from Game Day men's health in Lakewood. Hell yeah. He's here joining us for the last half of the show. We are big fans of Game Day men's health, of course, gameday.com.

Yeah, thank you for having me. Pull that microphone right in front of your face. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here and looking forward to his show. Yeah, Sam was mad. Like all the Game Day Men's Healths that aren't great fine, because we live near there, so we end up going in there. And I think Dave will hog some of the spotlight, right?

He'll do that. Yeah, he definitely does. He's kind of that guy. And you wanted your piece of the action, but there's Game Day Men's Health all over the Metroplex. Today, we have voted the last. Lakewood location on Gaston as the number one. Number one, game day men's health and the Metroplex for the day.

The other one's a little sketchy on this day. We're not sure if you should go there. Maybe take the longer drive down to Lakewood. Well, just chime in if you want to at all during the show as we do our program. And you know Julie, right? You're familiar with Julie Dobbs. Yeah, Julie's joining us too. I forgot to make the only Dobbs is in studio as well.

Hi. Uh, fresh off a Vegas trip. That's right. Do you run in the boy? I had a big weekend of performances. What does that mean? You know, like a showgirl. I was working in Vegas.

Okay. Okay. Just kidding. They just throw y'all off and it worked. This wasn't a girl's trip, though, right? What's that? They sawed you in half, right? Yeah.

Half your body over here. I didn't get sawed in half. Was this a girl's trip? Uh, it was a couple's trip. Oh, yeah. Swap? Game day. Was there swapping?

No, there was no swapping. I feel like that probably doesn't happen until your 50s. Oh, it happens before then for some people. Really? Yeah. You just get really bored. Keep the marriage alive in your 40s. I'm holding out for the 50s.

So your marriage is still fine? Kelly just turned around on his way to the lawyer's office. He's like, actually, you know what? I'm going to wait. Wait this out a few more years. We'll see this out. Just going to hang tight a little bit here. Head over to Game Day, make sure I'm ready.

We never really got to T.C.'s weekend check, but also I understand T.C. has a story to tell. So before we do the news and all that kind of stuff, we can tell a story time with T.C. brought to us by Frankel and Frankel. 888, excuse me, 817 or 2.14, and then 333, 33, 33, personal, personal, Injury attorneys, Dan. That is right. If you get in an accident... Or you can saw it in half?

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You know, they don't like the... the position they're in, but they realize you're just you, and you're up against the man. And so you need someone like Franco and Frankel on your side in your corner to fight for you.

Call them. 214, 817, then all threes. Hey, T.C. Hey, guys. How's it going? I don't think this will take up too tremendously long amount of time, but yeah, I got to direct a music video. It was a lifelong goal. I've told Jake the story before

one of the previous jobs I had they had you know it was in a magazine that was kind of flagging in interest and they said I've got a big idea it was like a motivational talk kind of magazine so they were like I got a big idea you know Tony Robbins

we're all like yeah we know Tony Robbins like well we got his son like you and Bill Vick yeah for real Mike Beck his name's Jerrick he's a great guy Tony Robbins son is doing music videos No, no, no.

Wait, what am I? I work at a magazine. I'm getting there, you know? Okay. And whenever Jerich came in, one of his, like, team building exercises was everyone write down your dreams. And as my top dream, I said, direct a music video. And now I've done it.

Okay. That's the story. But you really did meet Tony Robbins' son. I thought that was the story. It was more of a Zoom call. Oh, okay. That doesn't sound as motivational as Bill Vex's son laying in the ground in front of me. but for a while i was doing zoom calls with jerrick every couple weeks you know really yeah yeah

okay did you get dressed up no no uh you know i try to make sure the background looked all right yeah but yeah i guess are you trying to throw a shot at tc for just the way he in general does not get dressed up well not really it was more just like i always think about my zoom call and like who i'm talking to and can i be julie at home or do i need to be like professional julie It's something I think through before Zoom calls. I was just wondering if you did that same thing. It was a work-from-home company. He lives in Puerto Rico, so he was on island time.

So I did not feel a lot of pressure. And this guy is just making money by spewing his dad's stuff. Yeah. On zoo, he doesn't even have to go places just on Zoom. Living the life on the beach. Yeah, I mean, the whole company was on Zoom. So all of us were doing that. But I mean, Tony Robin.

son. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's sitting here scamming every. And there was funny things where, like, yeah, I'm, I'm my own man. It's like, all right, well, you didn't go into a totally different field. Right. So, you know, if you're like, Jerich, a CEO of American Airlines, then you can say, I'm my own man. Whatever. He's his own man. He's doing great. Shouts out to him. But, but the story is not about Tony Robin's son. No, although I'm happy to answer any questions. Just in case anybody has any more today. But he asked me, what are my big dreams in life? And I said, well, I'd really like to direct a music video.

And now I have done it. Just you guys know, Skin. He's got a music label. I believe it started to publish the Bastards of Soul, Danny's Band, and expanded from there. You know, once the, there's nothing funny about it. There's an oddly timed laugh. Once the publishing bastards, the sole opportunities dried up, you know, just kind of had to move on.

Yeah. And so, you know, one of the guys that he got hooked up with is a dude named Paul Shalda, who's awesome. The album is out now. It's called Lately, and the song Lately is the one that we did the music video for. And I'm really proud of it. I'm really happy with how it all came together. it was in the end certainly far short of all me I would say that Mike Marshall who you have on weekly

is probably the main driving force behind it he was really awesome to watch work and Drew Castillo who he knew from the Mavericks and Drew's directed some other stuff we were all three of us you know working together to get this thing done and just could not be more happy with how it turned out. I think that whenever you do watch it,

you'll be excited to see some of the star turns from our friends that are in there. That's a blatant question. I'm fine with it. We were kind of unsure, to be honest. Because it is copyrighted music. And video. Yeah. So even if we just play the video with no music behind it?

I think if you do that, it's probably fine, right? These are questions for off the air Well, we all kind of off the air We're like, I don't really know Yeah, yeah They never really We had the discussion off the air That did not

I mean, I've heard Danny, Danny Bayliss Get flagged for music that he wrote Like it's his own song and Spotify I'll be like, you can't put that in there I have the copyright But they don't know that Hmm But it looks awesome

Yeah, we filmed it down to the Texas theater Skin knows one of the guys That operates down there and they were super gracious with letting us use that. Yeah, I don't know. It was a lot of fun. Of the things I've done in my life, it's got to be, it's way better than having a kid far surpasses.

I mean, I know thousands of people with children, and now just one or two who have directed a music video. Yeah, so I just, I hope I get to do that a bunch more times, and if anyone listening has any needs, I think that you'd be shocked at how reasonable, my rates are. So what does it entail? I mean, do they have a vision like, hey, I want this, or do you come up with the idea? I think my approach to it is that I should be doing everything and then if they want to, if they want to do something, I'm not standing in their way,

but my idea of the director is that this is your ship to drive. Yeah, but you're not the writer. Yeah. Well, I mean, on music videos, it's not like a big crew. It's usually just just someone walks in with a vision. But in this case, it was all pretty collaborative. The basic thing that's going on is the song's about starting from a place of isolation and then finding a new community. The guys, Paul's from New York, he moved to Dallas. He was very lonely at first, and now he's very excited about all the people that he's met.

And so the song kind of traces that. And so to illustrate that on film, we're having people's singing the song at him but he is not singing so that they're kind of in a monolithic group but he is isolated from them and the basic idea like the first time we showed up to the texas theater skin was like i was thinking about wouldn't it look cool if people were singing he wasn't singing and so it starts from there and then you know my biggest contribution was like this should be a journey where eventually he is joined in with them this is kind of a thing he goes on where he starts at the beginning like what you're talking about and then it evolves and then all of the

specific steps of like you know who's singing at him in what context you know and mapping these onto the times in the song machine did the bulk of that work and you know like talking about the shots and how things are going to look because yeah we you know I'm sure every music video is differently we did a tremendous amount of pre-planning and you know we walked in with a down to the second, here's how every single thing is going to look and what we need from all these people and things of that nature. Like a storyboard? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you get paid a one-time fee or every time like it plays? No, no, yeah, definitely just one-time fee. I don't know that Eastwood Music Group is getting a tremendous amount of money from the video or anything like that. Eastwood, I think we know them. Eastland, different. Oh, Eastwood is their record. record label. Eastland is a band, you know. Oh, all right. My bad. Skylark's soul company is

it's never really clear to me. But you filmed it all in one location. You didn't drive around here to there. The bulk of it takes place in the Texas theater. We did a little bit outside the Texas theater and then he's walking to a second location. And this was another big dream of mine that I always want to do something with my favorite bar in the entire world, the Lakewood Landing. And so I just called the Lakewood Landing when they were open. They said call back when the manager's here i did and i asked him can i come and film something there and he said sure and they opened up early and is the lakewood landing anywhere near game day men's health in lakewood it's very near very close are you familiar with this i am i'm a frequent um

customer as well great bar yeah hot dogs back in the day no they still do hot dogs what makes this your favorite bar in in your life uh it's just classic dive bar it's got a great feel to it i think that if you ever walked in, you'd say this has a little bit of a Cleveland kind of people drinking in Cleveland. It's not Dave and Busters we're walking into. It's not. It's more like the bar we were at Notre Dame when we went? Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's the kind of thing I like. Okay. Gritty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Down and dirty. Couch is sort of like yours, except maybe even older. Yeah, I'm sorry about the couch, Sam. Is that the worst thing you've ever sat on? No, this is great. Okay.

Okay, yeah. Now, he's being nice now. What a guy. For sure. I think my side sinks down more than his side, though. I gave him the good side. Okay. Yeah, he's our guest. My butt kind of fits right into the position. Meanwhile, I'm like, mine hits the floor. Yeah, we got that in the garbage heap here at the Foxborough building.

Yeah, they're moving buildings. So they have a bunch of old, you know, furniture and stuff, like literally in the basement. And we found that in the basement. And we're like, okay. Yeah, we've repurposed the, lot of stuff in here. We're the, uh, yeah, they don't give us new stuff here. Anyway, well, uh, what's it called lately?

Yeah, lately, Paul Shalda. Whole album's awesome. Okay, so you can really good music. You can certainly watch this at home and not get flagged by YouTube, right? They won't charge you or anything. Definitely. Do you want to try? I just, I think they would like, I mean, I, if you want to play some of the video with no audio,

I'd, I'd, we'll definitely put it in the show notes. Okay. That's great. Okay. Cool. For those who can't, like, Google. For those who can't type the word that I just said. Mm-hmm.

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Let's start with something local here Did you guys know That there is an SMU law professor Missing? No I saw this headline it was very strange yeah he was hiking he's 67 years old you're a place called blood mountain well that's ominous it's george issue number one dude couldn't we have named

like safe travels park why did you have to name it like found by in trails memorial park but you think i'm targeting lost on blood mountain is my first feature film yeah right lost on Blood Mountain. It's in Georgia. Cruz have been searching. Yeah, why wouldn't you in your dream? This is a dream. Like, why wouldn't you be like, I want to direct a film? It's the same as me. You're like, I want to direct a music video.

Same with me and covering kicks. We know. I don't want to have a dream that I never do. Okay. So you wanted to make this realistic. I put one that I did. And I did it. Now I can tell you this story about how I fulfilled what I told Jerich I would do. Do you feel like it's more you or the fact that you were motivated by Tony Robbins's son? I think it's about 50-50.

Okay. So they've been searching for this guy since Wednesday. Silver Alert? Boy, my wife hit me up the other day of like, what's a clear alert? I'm like, it's just a regular person. What is a clear word? Isn't it a regular? Yeah.

They're neither a child or an adult or a senior. And not a criminal. Well, then why do we have to find them? I don't know. They still are worthy of being found. No, they're not. You have to be young or older. No one's looking hard for people to give them.

No, that's why it's clear. You don't even see them. They can't even give you a respectable name. If you're a non-disnable, non-senior adult and you get lost, that's on you. That could be just a quest. You could be kidnapped. It doesn't mean you're just wandering around lost. You also could just be on an adventure.

Remember this when one of you guys gets lost. Yeah, don't mess up my time. If I get lost, then it's on purpose. I was trying to get, yeah. Trust me, I tried a few times. Well, I read a full. Okay, I won't send the troops. Yeah, true.

You didn't successfully for a bit. Remember that guy that faked his death in Wisconsin? Bro, the Atlantic has a book-level long article. I just read it. You read the whole thing? I started it for a million pages long. I know. But, yeah, it's the guy...

It's very intricate and very detailed on exactly what he did. And, like, his wife wants to take him back. No. Shut love. That's real love. Have you guys heard about this story? I don't think so. Guy in Wisconsin.

Two daughters, I think, two little kids. Two kids and a wife faked his own death in like a local lake that was very deep. Yeah, kayaking. Okay, I sort of remember this. But yeah, planned it well ahead of time, had money sent to Swiss bank accounts, all this kind of stuff. And like I think went to church that morning with his family, something like that. and but you know got burner phones got you know different clothes and yeah drove out to this lake told his white like had started doing some night fishing over the few months before then so

laid the groundwork yeah right like oh I'm going to go doing a little night fishing so she didn't think that was too weird because he had done that and come home before and yeah did that got an inflatable raft and still we know the defected got an inflatable raft um paddled just kind of with his hands or a net or something back to the shore finally um and crawled out and then you know had a electric bike stored somewhere in the woods damn this guy went harder than luigi no he's incredible um but not incredible enough well that i guess it was because they they wanted the best to find this guy in by dragging the bottom and they got the best and this guy after a why, like many, many weeks of looking was like, I feel like I would have found him, you know,

and he was really good at figuring out if somebody was in a lake. He's not down there. Yeah. And so they kind of just said, well, let's just kind of look around. Let's look into this. And there was a missive from the Canadian border. Like they were like, let's just put it out to the, it's not interpol, but whatever it is, all the police agencies, like, has anyone searched this guy's name recently?

And yeah, they had searched his name at the Canadian border. They thought that was weird. And then they started following and following and, you know, went into the metadata in his laptop. And I guess there was a couple, because he had gotten a new laptop and erased it, but he didn't erase everything. And so, yeah, and then they ended up tracking him down, like in Prague or something insane. Jeez. Where he had a sidepiece. he was.

He had someone he had met online. All because the Lake Gredging guy was like, there's no way I'd miss it. And then they ended up getting a hold of him and talking him into coming back. Yeah, because at first they got a hold of him, and he was like, I'm not coming back. They're like, well, this is illegal. And he's like, we'll do something about it. Yeah. He's like, I live over here now.

And we thought it was so funny because these small town sheriffs were giving these press conferences. And it was around like late October. And he's like, wouldn't this be a great ending to this story if this guy could come back and have Thanksgiving dinner with family and I'm like there's no this guy's not having Thanksgiving Day anywhere ever again dude I should have like she's having him back I should have printed off because he got very

little like legal jail time okay he had to spend the only time to do insurance fraud too because he's a good guy right the only time he had to spend in jail was like however many days they spent looking it was like 60 days a D Hall ass justice system is that

and so they sent him to 60 days in jail and a bunch of money, like a big fine. But, yeah. And now he's out. Just goes to soccer games on Saturday. He's living in his life. Which lady is he spending the rest of his life? Oh, no, he's back here.

When interviewing his wife, she's like, she doesn't rule out taking him back. She's like, I got married for life and good and the bad. And I'm like, Jesus. Wow. Like that to me. And that's probably the worst thing for him to hear. He's like, I wanted to leave you. Now you're like, you'll take me back.

God. There's no doubt that as he's going back, he's like, at least she's going to divorce me. I won't have to deal with any of this anymore. The Prague lady's got to be heartbroken. Yeah, but she might have just kind of been trying to hit a lick. You know, Eastern Europe, she might have just. Yeah, this wasn't all, she didn't really sign up for this. She was looking for rupees or whatever.

Why is it hard for men to be like, hey, honey, I'm a little unhappy, and here's why. Because you don't take it. Like, you have to go fake your own kayak death. What does that tell you? I would rather fake a death. What is that kind of? Dang conversation with your wife. Oh, you're going to do a little victim blaming?

You might want to ask the question, what would beget a circumstance where a guy would rather fake his own death and deal with international criminality? He's probably just trying to take care of the to-do list and she's nagging him because she needs stuff done. She just won't let it go. She's carrying the mental load of the family. And you try to let him go and then they come back at you sometimes. He wasn't carrying his weight. We've got to maybe give him an ice.

I defend her. Yeah, no way. I respect, dude, I know. She was doing a ton of it. I now spend a lot of time on the weekend with adults I don't know that well at kids' birthday parties. My daughter had three this weekend in two days. It was a morning, afternoon, next day. And you're still at the age where your parents have to hover?

Yeah, kind of. It gets better. You can drop off after a couple years. I don't engage in as much small talk as the others. And it's college football Saturday. Oh, U. Bamma was on. I'm, like, watching on my phone. But I'm around a lot of adults that I sort of have to pretend like I know.

Believe me, if one of them showed up with his two daughters, and he had recently been in Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic because he tried to fake his own death at the local pond, it's all anybody would be talking about. Yeah. You think he shows up at the soccer game, and it's like, oh, good Millie's here today. No. Yeah.

My wife gossip's about so much less than that. So much less, dude. You thought one of these are the South Lake Sex Dungeon lady in the mix. Yeah. What's going on with that, Dan? She's not telling me. And inviting me to the dungeon. So sorry.

He's got to live near you, right? Anyways, big fan of extending your life and living life to the fullest. That's why I'm a game day men's health customer. but 67 years old is too old to be on the Blood Mountain Trail by yourself. Give it up. Where's Blood Mountain? It's somewhere in Georgia, but my dad is 68, and he's in great shape, and I don't think he should be hiking by himself.

Yeah. Like out of town or really at all. It seems a little nuts anyone does, right? Hike alone? Yeah. Like I know Brunich does. I do know that. That's who I'm thinking of.

and he seems exceptionally suited to it, but... I would rather be alone. I would rather be alone, but I don't know that I would go just do it on my own. Most of my hiking seems to involve other people. He's... This guy wasn't a remote, though. I think that he's always on trails, Brunick. But I had a very brief...

There was a couple hours once in my life where I was off-trail hiking alone. And I knew that if I turned an angeles. ankle, I'm dead. Yeah. And that's scary. I guess if you're on the trail, someone's going to find you. I'd start a fire with two sticks. Right.

Start eating. That's where I'd really start to live. Start eating your own arm. Just right immediately. Get that fire going? Immediately. Yeah. Have a tort.

Set a couple of traps for wildlife. Had a funny political story over the weekend as a congressperson in California was caught on a plane. This is Brad Sherman. He's 71 years old. There's photos in there, I think, Clayton. But did you see this online? I don't know.

He's a guy who's on an iPad on a plane, and he's looking at porno. Oh, you know, right there in commercial. Oh, I might have seen a headline that said he claimed it was like a... He says it's Twitter. He said he clicked the For You page on Twitter, and that's what was showing up. Now, the group chat really zeroed in on the bright

of this iPad. Like, he's got that thing. Maybe that's just an older person thing. But he's got that all the way up. He's looking down at it like it's a book. And it's just two images of, I don't know, ladies, something. But he thought that an appropriate excuse for this was I was on Twitter, it's the for you page.

And I can tell you, my four you page is, it may not be porno, but it's very specific to, like, communism, the Dallas Cowboys, all the things I've done to. Yeah. Any time you say I saw this on my 4U page, you're telling on yourself. Big time. But if you had enough time to snap a photo of him then how long was he looking at it? Like you ever try to

take a picture of your dog when it's sitting there doing something cute? Just missed it. But yeah, like that guy was lingering on that. Just the angle of that photo, real balls on the other person taking it. Yeah, just right there. Yeah, the phone's like held up. You're going to know.

He's going to see. That's literally a photo you can only take if you know that he's spellbound and just lock. He's just so longed. He does look like he's mouth breathing. So who took the photo, like someone next to him or something? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Just another passenger. Yeah. And those things really show up on a plane, you know, like, because there was someone sitting in front of me and I had zero interest in her life or her, but I found myself reading her text. Oh, yeah. Like, because it was just right in front of me and I was bored. I was like, oh, what?

she up to today? Okay. Yeah. Why'd you ask it like that? You know what I mean? Like I'll read their text and be like, come on. You didn't need to out all caps that word. Right. I'll do the same thing. We do it at games. Oh, you're like, who's this person talking about? We've talked about, like, you've got to get a screen protector or not a screen protector, but a screen reflector, whatever. I want them to know. It's a little thrill. Like, I don't, the texting back and forth of, I don't know, it just, you see the ones that make it to social media when they're sexual. But all of the, but all just read the lady in front of me's

basic plans for her work trip. Like, I'll be at those out of five. I'm like, wow, I feel great that I have that information and she doesn't know how I have it. Right. She has no idea I'm reading her text right now. The one that I enjoyed most is I was at a White Sox game. It was sitting behind the, like,

troll commenter. Like, he was just going around. It was like a story about the Phillies. And, like, he's like, that hitter's a bum. Yeah. You always wonder, like, who are these guys that are, like, saying Ryan Howard sucks under this post. Right. It's him. There he was.

A man from Grapevine is confirmed pass away out in East Texas over the weekend in a hunting accident. Uh-oh. Actually, this is West. Never mind. Marion County, if Blake were here, but it's about two hours outside of the Metroplex.

45-year-old guy from Grapevine was removing a firearm from a vehicle when it accidentally discharged and hit him. Were there any vice presidents around no man but i was actually listening to the aforementioned brunigs talking about dick cheney after his passing and there is something very i don't know it's nostalgic about the sort of guy

like cheney was like just the crumudgeon like he always most politicians like they they learn how to how to smile and they learn how to look fake but cheney always just looked pissed off and like you remember him as the vice president, but he was actually like a real guy who had to go out and run for office at one point. Like with that affid... Yeah. Just that...

How many TV cameras were there in that part of Montana? Yeah, probably not. Probably not. Think if you get a good ad in the local paper, you're probably well on your way to Congress. So he was somebody voted in... I always thought he was like a business guy that was just behind the scenes guy.

I mean, at one point he probably was business guy, but he was a senator from... I think it was just... Congress. Congress, okay. But yeah, he parlayed that into VP at Halliburton, and whenever he was vice president of America, people were pretty focused on the Halliburton thing.

Why? Well, because he was awarding them all kinds of giant contracts. That doesn't seem right. They wouldn't do that. It would be brutal to be, because if you're a hunter, you know you're probably, you probably are a tough guy, but you definitely act, you know. Look, Clayton's over there.

he's tough guy dying taking your gun out of your car is not how you want it to go like it got mauled by a bear that the shot didn't kill it or you know some sort of loony tunes type thing

where it like ricocheted off seven very undisciplined move not good no not good that's why I'm a gatherer you just don't want it pointed at you like can't you feel like you could handle

don't ever have have it pointed at you? You don't have to take a class, though, right? To have a shotgun? No, to go hunting with a shot? No. Shouldn't you? You have to take hunter safety to get a hunting license.

And then, I mean, it's very basic, but it's the basic laws of guns. Treat it like it's loaded at all times. Don't point it to anything you're not willing to kill. Is this too woke to say that there should be like you should have to take some kind of a gun class to get a gun? Like you do to drive a car But also if you need to have someone else tell you Don't point the gun at yourself Like how long were you going to make it?

But if you're pulling it out of the car It's always like it's going to be hard to not have it At least sort of your direction It's tough to pull out without it going on You know go down Open up the passenger Gameday dot dumbzone.com You push you'll limp-rested open to the door

Maybe you wouldn't uh... Yeah I don't know I think most people would say you probably should have like maybe a little more There's like a safety or something that should be on, right? Owning the gun. You shouldn't just do that. Yeah. Man, one of the funniest things.

I remember when Bob met a cowboy Tom guy out in West Texas and started like messing around with guns and he would post, he like posts a photo of him with the gun and just the replies are just, it's like, bro, we live in Texas. you better have everything about this photo right or the first 50 replies are like first time holding the gun like you're putting in your feet people were posting pictures of like

Yosemite Sam shooting his feet and stuff I'm like this is why you don't it's why you don't do it even if you're doing it perfect they're still going to be working very hard to let you know they know more about it than you do yeah gotta watch out for gun guy

five people arrested I like my gun guys like this like Clayton Yeah, he doesn't walk around wearing K, doesn't have a Punisher tattoo. He's just, guy likes meat. Yeah, but it's a seek, you know, you just don't know what he's into. Oh. You know?

Yeah. Look, so far I know. You don't know how many guns he has? So far I know coins, reptiles, guns, and steak nuggets. That's a, that's a man to me. And he's also the guy, if there is, like, the apocalypse or something, like, aren't we calling him? Yeah, for sure. Like, bro, where are you going?

Yeah. Will you please take us? Give me the coordinates. That's why you've got to be nice to Clayton. And in a world of everything is going on out there a lot more than we think it is, five suspects arrested in Dallas after a million dollars of stolen goods were founded in auto shop on University. Like University Drive in Dallas by SMU? Actual cash?

No, goods. Oh, good. Sorry. Oh, wait. You probably said that. it says dPD but it says university hills that's got to be something else uh yeah it's south of town that makes a lot more sense with with all due respect to everyone a lot more sense yeah as a truck driver and uh they so they pull a truck over and then they are able to figure out where are you

headed where are these going and you know they figure it out and there's a million dollars worth of goods there my point is just that there's like auto shops around where you What are you laughing at? Just when you say where you headed and you had that mustache, you do feel like... It was very appropriate. Yeah, it just does feel like I've seen you really fit the mold now. Yeah. Yeah.

It's an awful hurry, aren't you? Are these your kids in this photo? You got kids or what? She's probably trying to get back to them. I can't see your license plate. I wonder if we could just take care of this somehow. Dallas Police has something called a salvage squad. which I wonder if they bring in the best for that.

They searched the shop and discovered 600 tire rims, 800 tires, a fridge, a motorcycle, an ATV, and about 50 grand in cash. All right, that sounds like a pretty shitty list of stuff to get up to a million dollars. A million dollars. Tires and... Dude, that's a trader's village on a Saturday.

Although I would like to take a look at that fridge. My wife apparently is happy, with the fact that we have a garage fridge and we're getting more steps I guess but she was doing

some research on buying a fridge and I'm like well where are we at in this dude I was over there the other day and saw like eight things printed out like in order that were like options one through she's doing a ton of research on

like it's going to take her Julie just goes to the fair you know what though you can get everything at the fair we might have a very impulsive A fridge sponsor by the time she... Wow.

No, I'm just saying, like, we don't now. We don't even have a cold lead. But by the time she gets... But by all those rocks were turning over. No pun intended. Whenever we were over there last time, I thought she was leaving to go buy it. She was leaving to go... That's a preseason game.

Right. That's not showtime. She hung out in the Best Buy and didn't place an order? Dude, I grew up with... My stepmom is like this. She has to feel really, really good about this fridge. It has a big purchase. And like I know your wife does this too

And do whatever makes everybody happy To me this is like a hobby So like I would say it's annoying that she does this But if that's what makes her happy But I remember when we'd go to my dad's house on the weekend It was only two weekends a month At least a couple hours of Saturday Was spent driving my stepmom

To different places to return shit That's how you want to spend We're just headed to JCPinney Then we're headed over to DSW Shoe Warehouse which is already a discount store. And it would be like, all right, well, you know, we just kind of chill for a couple hours, walk around. And it's just like, well, why didn't you just buy this right shit

the first time? Like, how does this keep happening to you? Do you think you could buy a fridge on Amazon? Yes. Oh, 100%. You could have a fridge at your house by the time you get home. Dude, you want to talk about like... That would throw her way off, Dan.

Don't do it. Dysotopia. What are your research? My wife is now buying like basic clothing from Amazon. Oh, yeah. Like, not just for the kids, for her. Same. She's like, oh, this is pull-ups.

It's pretty nice. That's not bad because you can return it real quickly. It's so easy. I know, but there's something, too. She's like, oh, this is actually just fine. And then a box shows up at my house and my kids, dude. Again, Gummy thought, but if you wanted to look at this as dystopian, they see the box come up and they're like, Amazon, Amazon. It's like their God.

Yeah. They just see that that truck pulls up and they don't even care what's in it. That's true. And then they go to the TV, put on Amazon. Where's the catalog? Give me the catalog for Amazon. It's just insane, dude. It's the company store.

Wouldn't you want to touch your fridge and open it and just see how much could fit in? I don't care about that at all. No, does it fit? Good. Yeah. I can buy one for $679 and have it delivered Thursday. That doesn't seem like enough for a good fridge. Well, yeah.

Well, I didn't. How many stars? Here's a $4,500 one, but I can't. get it till November 25th. Oh, I can get one for $700 tomorrow. You're going to get a TV on it? What would you spend on a fridge, Sam? What do you think normal is?

Probably 15 to $2,500. That probably, yeah, you're probably right, I think. Good guess. John Mullaney has a bit about buying a dryer in his most recent stand-up, and his tactic of walking to the Best Buy and say, give me most money. Yeah. I think if you just went to Best Buy,

I got most money fridge. Yeah, because then you're not going to be at, like, the crazy elite level. Best Buy is in the high end? Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing in Best Buy that's, it's not going to, they're not going to sell you a $20,000 fridge in Best Buy. Do you think Amazon, they would send a drone with this fridge? They're probably not going to drone you the fridge.

It would be very funny if they started droning like C-130 cargo planes and just dumping out. Yeah. Airshoots down. Speaking of that. Dumbo drop a fridge. I don't know. I don't know if there's any. anything to this story or not. I see people get mad about it when it happens. I don't know,

but Google has announced a $40 billion investment in North Texas, which features three new AI data centers. And there's one out in Haskell County, which is just north of Abil. That's not that far from here. That's my hood. Okay. It's bad out there. It's bad out there. Haskell County is not where Haskell is. No. Haskell, which, what are you thinking of? Haskell, the city? Yeah. Haskell City in Haskell County or West Texas, North Abilene.

Okay. I think Paschle maybe? The street is closer. I thought Haskell's. Yeah, that's for Pascoe, I know, but literally talking about where I'm... Yeah, and this is... Three hours away, Haskell, Dan. Okay, I can tell you what people are getting pissed off about right away.

Could be thinking about the street. The grid. so Abbott says it'll all be good but trust me whenever you're freezing in the corner you'll be so Google's going to take all the energy from the grid that's the worry yeah everyone should look out for an upcoming it's just banser on this but I don't know that we got to worry like on the one hand we should worry intensely about these data centers on the other hand you don't have to worry that much because where these data centers are heading we're all going to be dead in six years tops what well should we worry about that i mean like you can

or you can just accept it because of ai yeah like the second the machines which is like so close it's so much closer than anyone thinks they're going to start these plotting against us in three years i really only care about the cowboys getting a ring and i i take over that's literally i think that your chances are pretty tough corner williams contract you'd like like to think you got 20 years before the computer is smart enough to kill all of us and you just don't they're close why would they want to kill us why wouldn't that is the most julie question ever i i like to think that i could be friends with them like my devices are learning a lot about my family but i think they like us yeah and the current ones probably do but uh there's

more common and there's only one way this ends. Go watch Terminator 2 again if you don't believe me. I don't believe everything I see in Terminator movies. Dan, there's your news. What do you mean? I said, hmm.

I'm excited about the fact that I've got to go find this piece of audio. Like and subscribe. That was a good news. See, we left MTG and all that out. We don't need it. Oh, Marjorie Trader Green.

Did you hear that? I didn't make it up. Well, you can claim it if you want. He did he call her that? Oh, yeah. You know what else we left out? I forgot to bring up Anthony Davis earlier today. Oh, yeah.

Did you see him at the Mavs game? Was it Packers jersey? Yeah. So he knows like he's at the center of this whole storm and everything. He doesn't care. And so, like, yeah, I want to make sure the local fans, though, at least, don't hate me. How much do we have to pay him to get them to care then? Yeah, well, you may remember, and I'm not going to sit here and, you know,

stump for the New Orleans Pelicans ownership. But it's kind of funny the way he did it, but he wanted out of there so bad that when he just stopped playing, he would wear goofy t-shirts on the bench to send a message. And in the last game that they had him, he wore a loon. Mooney Tune shirt that just said, that's all, folks. I thought he was like the hardest worker. Yeah, I mean, when he... Character guy.

Yeah, I thought we needed more guys like this. When he had, when he was a Laker and he had LeBron and he could hang out with Sal and Murr and Hollywood, but now he's, no, the guy's a bum. Let's do some birthdays. Happy birthday. Thank you. Who is that again? Oh, that's, uh, Sydney Sweeney.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Viewer male birthdays We start with here We have Dear Vagina Lover Oh Sam these are going to get a little

Earmuffs We're not A little racy Look Sam's with game day men's health Yeah He's hearing and seeing that all day long He is serving vagina lovers Left and right

All right It's true What do you mean all right Let's treat our partner With respect here He said love Okay Oh, you made which partner?

Him? Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant the lady partner. Do you call your vagina, your partner? What are we doing here? No, that word, though, is jarring. Like, I don't know if he was prepared to hear the V word three times today when he sat down. Right, a little bud.

A little buddy. I'm sorry, dude. I don't know that I've ever seen. I'm sorry. Do you both say little buddy? I'm sorry. I hammered you that hard. Is that what we just heard?

Everyone's had to apologize. Do you guys just agree on that? Everyone's had to apologize to it before. Right. I really wore you out there. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. I didn't know you couldn't take it.

I know I said we were on a pitch count. It's not my fault. He's the moment. You were on fire. A pitch count for a little buddy. Partner feels too, too formal. Do you now wish, Julie, that you hadn't said anything? No, I love this.

Anyway, if you're a male birthdays, I'd like a birthday shout out for my father and all Lee. He turned 67 Monday the 17th. They're up them trails, Lee. He's a huge longhorns homer and a terrible golfer. Oh. He did, however, make a really gorgeous daughter who I was able to talk into marrying me despite my small weiner.

Geez. Gameday.com. Seriously. These people are begging for game day. Tell Blake we missed the handoff from Andrew and Amarillo. Shout out to Andrew. That was funny. Andrew.

And the Longhorns. In 11 days, T.C. and I will be standing in that stadium together. Absolutely. Hand in hand. Right on the 50. Not quite, but I got us tickets. Well, no, I just, you know, because of our friend. We may be able to get on the field.

Our Pearl Jam, loving friends. How much were the tickets? I'm not going to tell you. A lot. Yeah, I don't want to know. I bought him as a gift for my friend, a Christmas gift for my long-time friend. The only friend. Higher or lower than 300-each.

One of two friends who wrote me in rehab. I just knew you'd curb me. if I wrote you. A little bit more, but not much. You're in the right. I just thought you'd be mad at me if I did something that wasn't. No, you just would know this isn't him. Is this going wrong so far? How do you write someone in rehab? I was told that I could write him a note if I could.

I didn't know. I'm just talking trash. I never thought about it. Literally, Dan is one of my best friends and I wouldn't have done it without him sending me there, but I'm buying TC the tickets because he's broker than you. Anyway, I'm wishing I'm not by you anything ever I want you to know that, yes And I don't feel the same way

I'm writing to wish my sister Megan Lowry a happy birthday It's her Dack Prescott plus Jason Terry birthday We're both day one subbies Her leader is established the run guy Blake allowing his kid to carpool with the homeless Do you hear that story? And Jake's perspective on coaching youth soccer

she would like less Sarah Heppala more aggressive continuous anti-Niko forever content PSA pillows with people's faces on them make bad gifts I sent Blake a Venmo

for the shoutout from Matt yeah he went to Blake went to go give some clothes to the homeless gentleman that he gives money to every month and the guy needed a ride to his storage unit to put the clothes up and the guy also had a friend with him another unhoused person that person needed a ride so blake spent a better part of like two

hours taking them where they needed to go and uh his wife was upset because that's the night he's supposed to be at home with his family and his wife was also upset because his kid was with him the entire time like in the back of the car with them yeah is the kid like in a cross-seat age like just kind of he's four okay yeah like he's can't say daddy what are we doing here blake's heard your story how many times my step my dad did the exact same thing when i was a kid we were driving to like i took from that story that that's off limits i would have thought about it beforehand now i know it's a no me and my brother were in the car and there was a guy who had a sign that said we'll work for food or looking for a job my dad was like get in the car i'll take you down to the main hub

where i work and we drove him to started driving him to the uPS hub and And the guy was like, yeah, I'm going to get out. But we were in the car for like 20 minutes. But the guy who was just on the corner, my mom was not happy. Yeah. Yeah, she shook. Team moms in both of these scenarios. Team mom.

Like, it's such a judgy thing for home. They don't have a house. That doesn't mean they eat children. It's not like what? Yeah, but you just. The streets have made me hungry for their blood. I don't think they're worried their kids are going to get eaten. It's just the unknown.

100% of homeless people eat children. but 100% of people who eat children are homeless. 100% of people who eat children. It's fair. And my last viewer male birthday is my supremest leader, Pol Pot of the Pink Spot, Daniel. Sam. What's a new one?

Today is my Michael Jordan plus Michael Vic birthday, or as the real housewives of grapevine would say, Dirty 30. My leaders are Dan, for obvious reasons, Blake's wife and his ripped nipple, Jake being confidently incorrect, like calling a genocide a holy war, and the lambskin condom nestled in the inner breast pocket of his leather jacket. Jake's leather jacket, that is.

Not gay enough to look up my real sub-number. Let's see. Here's to Jake, if being really into weed guy is gay, then I'm Novi-Ello cranking it to the thought of what Rod Stewart's actions were to get his stomach pumped. Yeah. Sorry we can't all be booze hounds like you. Wow. Let's see.

I wish I was hoity-toity enough for a sit-in, but alas, I'm blue collar, so I write this email. Something S.G. smoking a cigarette with Jake. I'd rather smoke a doobie with Dan. God, it's a long email, bud. It is a lot here. From Jordan. You want his P.S.? First more.

Free Palestine, F. the Mavs and their own new owners, and to the dude during the election stream who only showed his Trump shirt at the election was over, you're a bitch and so is your president. My words not dance. Jeez, dude. This guy's got a lot, a lot going on.

Didn't have to... But happy birthday. Yeah, I guess, man. To Jordan. Pothead Jordan. I think I'm getting that from him. God, man. He likes the weed, bro. I hope Trump takes it from you. Whoa.

I don't know. What are we doing? We're now doing this. Game Day Men's Health presents on this day in history. So now we have a little today in history. And yes, it'll be brought to us not by all of the Game Day Men's Health locations in DFW, of which there are like a dozen. Twelve?

How many we got? Right now there's 12, yes. Okay. What are you saying? Are you intimating? There could be more? There could be more. It could be more on the horizon.

Okay, you're saying not less, though. Not less. Unless you put them other guys out of business. Is that your real goal? To cannibalize their own company? Right, yeah. I don't think so. Yeah, that's definitely not the goal.

Just help all the men. I will say Lakewood, we can give the best wood out there. There you go. Okay. I like that. Not many of them have that right there in the title as a layup. I do like that. So today is Monday, November 17th, on this day in 1979, Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini ordered the release of 13 black and or female American hostages being held at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

And once again, the white man gets the short stick. Just can't win. It's always tough to be a white man. We'll do it. We'll take it in the shorts. so were there black men released yeah I mean at least

yeah and I always I learned that not when I learned about this initially but when I learned it it was like I'm best what are you doing playing a little woke shit with me what do they care they care the legacy of American slavery is a big deal to the

the Ayatola he was stunting on us with like oh we see how you treat him I'm confused but it's a real like somebody else calling your mom a bitch. And you're like, no. That's for me. Yeah.

On this day in 1979, Daniel O'Krent invented fantasy baseball. Rotisserie. Well, on this particular day, he was heading to Austin. And he was pitching some people

about this idea he had. And he met them at a place called the Pit or the pit in our Austin Barbecue Joint

called the pit and they were not very receptive to his idea they called him a nerd and stuffed him in his locker

two weeks later he's in New York he pitches the idea to a more receptive group and he pitched this at a place

called La Rotisserie and that's why they ended up naming it rotissory baseball and otherwise

it would have been called pit baseball hmm What a fumble by the city of Austin. Yeah. Good thing it wasn't at Comet Ping-Pong. Yeah.

This day in 2014, Mike Madano was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame. You know him, don't you, Julie? I do. Good dude. Great dude. Lots of kids these days. Oh, really? Yeah, I want to say like five or six.

I just saw a video of one of them skating. all around. Are you counting his wife? Whoa, that's the... There he is. She is younger. Is he like 20 years older? And I think

didn't he like met her once when she was eight or something, right? I don't know anything about that. Nice. Like I don't think it's a lot of times been together, but like in the same room briefly. Maybe. Yeah, her dad is, I'm...

Yeah, because her uncle's played in the NHO, right? Yeah. I forget her whole who her dad is, but he's a famous, like, broadcaster on NBC, so maybe Mike had had his eye on her. I don't know. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying briefly in the same room. She's lovely.

Damn. Hmm. Great looking, dude. I think he's the first autograph I ever got. He's one of them dudes to hate, kind of, if you don't know him. It's just perfect. Everything about him. Yeah. But he's such a nice guy, though.

Like, along with Dirk, we had a really unbelievable like little situation there right? I don't know how interesting this is to people but like if you, I played one year of hockey as a kid ice hockey at Los Kalinas

which was like two hours away in my world but the idea that you could go to hockey on Saturday or Sunday and see Mike Madonna leaving in his like convertible or whatever

And he was just there. Mm-hmm. It was so crazy. Like, I mean, that's like... There's only so many sheets of ice in town. And that was a thing. There was two of them there, but it would be like, there's Mike Madonna. Mike Madonna was...

24-year-old Mike Madonna. Yeah. Treated very poorly on his way out the door, should never have been... Should never have had to put on a different uniform. No doubt. Should have just been able to retire on his terms, kind of like Dirk. You know? Yeah.

Hey, you're going to be on the fourth line, but you're Mike Medano. I agree. I never understand those moves, but I'm not, I guess, crunching numbers, like owners of teams are. Was it Newindyke? Was it GM at that time? Which seems very weird. I think so. Yeah.

Do you, like, are you trying to go out of your way to not show favor to, I don't know? Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. Like Trey Kling the Cowboys games. Or if you're the coach of your kids team. so hard on them just to make a point. Yeah.

Go harder on your kid. I'm sure that's why my dad didn't bat me lead off. Hey, we got to give other kids a chance here. Right. Didn't she famously never get a hit in Little League? Not one. Oh, man. How long did you play before you gave up?

A good six years. Aw. Damn. That's amazing. Were you at least catching some balls in the outfield or something? How do you not have PTSD, like you still love baseball? I like watching it. You don't see me going out and playing for fun.

Okay. I'm not like Jake training. I don't want to train. I had a good day last week. Nice. When you asked me to make sure I got drafted or you got drafted in the great game, you never really told me that note. I didn't, you know, I'm trying to be persuasive.

Yeah, why would you? Trying to build a pants. But I did pitch you as a room guy. Thank you. I appreciate it. No, the one year I got to do it, and then the next year, like, just, you know, I think the cat saw that it made me happy, and he's like, we got to do something about that. Yeah.

So the next year, there was a draft with a roster limit that was going to make it so, like, one person was excluded. And I felt like that was targeted at me. Oh, yeah. At least you forgot about it. That's right. That's right. And on this day in 2015, Jeff Bannister won the American League Manager of the Year Award.

So happy for Alex. Me too. Other birthdays today, Rope Hintz, is 29. Mitch Williams, he's a former ranger. He is 61. Hot Rod or something? He was a... He was a wild man.

It was probably a wild thing. Wild thing, there you go, yeah. After the Charlie Sheen character. But he's the one also that gave up the Joe Carter game game. 7 home run. Phillies versus Blue Jays. Ryan Griffin is 36. Jake.

Which one? That one? I guess, right? You would know. The Italian Football League MVP. That's right. In 2023. I didn't know that until this morning. I think his brother, so Griff is a Tulane quarterback that took over after my brother. And then he went on and had a long NFL career as a backup,

third string guy with the Saints and Drew Brees with the Bucks and Tom Brady. And he got like a 10-year career out of the deal. And then he was coaching for the last couple years. But before he retired, his brother, I think his younger brother, was playing football in Italy. And he was like, dude, you should just come over here for a year. And he's like, fucking all right. He went over and just destroyed everybody because he was still like a. We had him on.

Yeah. Was it the Super Bowl game stream? Yeah, I think so. We had him on a game stream, and he was like in Italy. Yeah, he just went over there. He just decided to come over for a year. We haven't played yet. It was like preseason, and he ended up being MVP of the league.

Yeah, I think they lost in the playoffs, but in the regular season, I would keep up with it. He was just killing people. Everyone with any athletic talent should do that. Whenever I did a semester in Italy, and there was a guy who had played at the University of Dallas basketball team, which is D3, and was good enough there that he was like Italian. pro league like third division player and it just looked like the best life on earth you just live in italy and you play basketball you're famous in that small town i don't even know that that's true but i'm sure if he's doing good he's notable enough you're right exhaust all options and just

if if you're ryan griffin like tearing it up the level of competition does not matter Taring it up feels good. Yeah. Mika Fitzpatrick is 29. Reggie Wayne, 47. Man, I loved him. Absolutely. Ryan Braun, 42.

Steroids? Yeah. Or he claimed it was... A, man. Supplement or something you didn't know. Where am I? Martin Scorsese is 83. Martin

Happy birthday Stephen Root 74 The great Stephen Root Obviously most well known for office space But he is excellent in Boardwalk Empire

And Dodgeball, of course News Radio News Radio Oh Brother Warthau Mm-hmm Lauren Lauren Michaels, 81 81

Is he stepping down? I thought he was going to be stepping down last year because it was the 50th. There's been no announcement. We're going to hand it over to Tina Faye. Yeah, they did a joke about Tina Faye in the hoping Saturday. But do you think there's any way

that you could do that at 81? I'll be so dead by 801. I don't know that I could do it now. Yeah. Does he still live that schedule, though? No way. The all-nighter on Wednesdays. I don't think it was necessarily him staying all night.

No, but you guys read that book. He definitely lived a nocturnal life. Yeah, yeah. I don't know when that quit, but it never seemed normal. Yeah. Tina Fey a likely candidate when he does step away or die. Yeah, so is Seth Myers, and I really wouldn't want to see that. For some reason...

Just let Nick Muller do that. I am very anti-Sept. I'm as anti-Tina Faye. There was a clip circulating of Zach Robinson of I think you should leave fame. He was on Seth Myers' as a show and they were talking about when Seth Myers was head writer and Zach Robinson was a writer. And Seth, like he was, Zach was talking about pitches that he wish had gotten on and Seth was explaining why they don't. And Seth seemed terrible. Seth was just, like history has proven him wrong because I think you should leave as a giant success.

and it just didn't feel like he's happy that I think you should leave is doing well but I don't think he's gotten it yet I'm with Dan I agree with you Dan Yeah he sucks He's smarmy Rachel McAdams is 47 She's hot

Yeah for sure True detective Best movie ever The Nope book Leslie Bibb is 51 Also hot That is Ricky Bob Bobby's wife.

Yeah, she's in something. She is in something. White Lotus. Oh, yeah, okay. She was one of the friends of the little threesome there. I know. Isaac Hanson is 45 from the music group Hanson. Once put a Hanson CD in the microwave.

Oh, to make your brother cry? Yeah. Yeah. Big tough Tulane quarterback. Future Tulane. quarterback is crying because of his Hansen's eating. Why'd you do that to him? Did that ruin your microwave? Yeah,

I think so. Uh, dude, come like, it was so... It's a little brother. You're making fun of him. You're playing. Hansen sucks. Listen in the girl music. You had to teach him. You taught him how to be a man. I have my red Yankee fitted on. Yeah.

This shit sucks. The rule of thumb is... He might not have made it to Clemson. I know. Yeah, I was a big motivator. To-lane is a quarterback. Prove my brother wrong. Rupal is 65.

Don't get it. Yeah. My daughters love that show. What is drag race? So when they come into town, when my older daughter comes into town for Christmas or whatever, we'll just be watching that every day.

Okay. Hey, it's probably entertaining. That in Love Island. God. She's seen every season of Love Island, the British version or whatever, and there's been like... 20 of them or something? Way more than that, I think. That's crazy.

Is she like Tony? It's college, man. She can tell you what happened to all of them. She's not exactly like Tony, but she's pretty good. Like, the thing about Tony is even if you had watched every episode of Dancing with the Stars, there's no way you'd be able to recall like. No, I've gone through a series again, and it's always like, like I did this with 30 Rock. Sorry, I know you hate the women that are funny.

I don't hate them because they don't exist. But watching it the second time through was so great because it was like I had never seen it at all. Still lives. Yeah. A couple things I remember, but not much. Yeah. Yeah, Tony's not obsessed. Tony is a savant.

It's amazing It's truly amazing And our dumb's on birthday of the day Danny DeVito, 81 Wonderful What a career Still going I saw I'm doing a commercial this week

For something like Oh dude All the time Jersey bikes Jersey mics But what if you're 81 You've got a huge pile of money Your grandchildren are fine

Everybody's fine Do you still do commercials Or do you do it just to actually keep busy And you don't want to go hiking In the Blood Mound Probably that And it probably takes him a day to shoot those, and then he gets $10 million. Yeah.

Look, I'm not- One more great kids set for life. I think the better way to do it is to live healthy and go to game day men's health. But Danny DeVito making it to 81. Yeah. I don't think you would have that. That doesn't make me feel great about the broccoli I ate for breakfast this morning. Like, Danny DeVito is going to live to be 90? Does he look, he doesn't look like he's old?

he might be doing some game day on the side for the last like 30 years That's a thing That's a thing about game day though That's all them Hollywood people Yeah how do you think that's happening Do you think all these people we just mentioned 80 whatever year old Scorsese

80 year old Lauren Michaels You think they're just like waking up and drinking a shake Do you think Jerry? They're going to- Jerry's doing all this peptides Yeah I'm going to say

I'm sure they're on peptides a regenerative medicine kicks back to aging years. You think DeVito's... Oh, yeah. I think all of them are. Like all of them, all of them? All of them.

How's he boning? He's not doing that with no help, right? No. GameDay.com. Do you just assume he is? If you want to bone... What? Do you just assume that he is?

That he's boning? Yeah. He's DeVito. Yeah, he's DeVito. He's got chicks left him right. Come on. I thought that was just retired at some point. No, it doesn't have to be.

Yeah. Out with game day. We work with 80-year-olds every day. You do? We do. Okay. There's a lot there. Probably more of them than...

Firm up that pasta. They have more free time than 50-year-olds. That's right. Sex time. Sex time. Workout time. You think they're retired at those retirement centers? They're retiring that ass.

I hear there is a lot of sex going on in those places. Oh, yeah. What do you know about that, Sam? I've heard outside of college. That's the number one STDs. Really? Outside of college. College and nursing homes.

Yeah. What kind of sex ed do you think they had? That'd be kind of great. If you got an STD at 85, you'd be like, hell yeah. Dude, just think about, I don't know. Just think about like, generationally where we are. Like, nobody in a nursing home right now, they're like a condom. What are you talking about?

I've never worn a condom in my life. I don't know what that is. When they were still in their, you know, those. days condoms were not a thing he's expected him to start now I doubt that's great that is great that's the game day doing God's work

right there and we have dead on the stay still dead Beau Schembeckler glad he's dead Stu Cedar TC's a Notre Dame fan so we'll give him a pass on that one okay wishing death on people he's dead

I hope he dies again right because then he could ascend. And then born on this day now, Dad, we end with Joe Avazano. Wow. Talking about Italian football. Legend.

Coach of the Milan Seaman. And that's what happened on this day in history. Do you think this is it? My name is Joe Avazano. Most people in Dallas, they know me as coach Joe. Wait, pause. You know who Joe Avisano is?

I do. Okay. Do you know how he got that nickname? Because he's going to tell the story here. I don't. It's an interesting story. Yeah, go ahead. Got that name because of my many years with the Dallas Cowboys as a special teams coach.

Yeah. So his name is Joe. Uh-huh. And he's a coach. And so they would call them Coach Joe. Just a deep cut nickname. Let me just spend a little time letting you in on how we came up with that nickname. It's a funny story, really.

Well, it all started when my mom named me. Anyway, yes, let's have closing remarks here. They can be brought to us by Game Day Men's Health at gameday.com. We've already told you about the weaner and all that, right? Anyway, man, thanks for coming in. Thanks for being part of just the dumb zone. Thanks for having me. This is awesome opportunity.

You never been in a studio, so it's good to see how y'all interact and just go about the business. It is named after you guys. Yeah, you like that sign right there? The Game Day Men's Health Studio. I love it. Um, most of our location, well, some of the locations, we're in medical buildings or office buildings, so nobody really sees store. Pull that a little closer. Just a little. Um, most people don't see like a storefront. So it's good that y'all have it going. So we can get our name out and help as me guys as possible. What is yours in? It's in an office suite. We're on the seventh floor of, of Lakewood Tower. Beautiful views. Yeah. There are nice views there. How's a, how long you've been doing it over there? Um, we opened up in September. last year so just over a year and what's your history um i i was in business my entire life and then

i did consulting finance real estate um and always wanted to be a doctor hated blood couldn't couldn't understand how people do injections or anything like that um and this came around game day's a franchise we have 350 400 locations across the country and thought it would be a great opportunity just to help guys. And I'm just, I have a location here and in Raleigh, North Carolina. So we've helped probably six to 700 guys over the last year and just seeing the transformation of some of their lives is phenomenal. You're from there? No, I'm from Dallas. But just wanted to differentiate. And Golden Triangles is a great area as well. Yeah, I don't know if it's like this at all the places, but the people at the one I go to, I genuinely feel like they care about me.

Like, primarily the two professionals I work with there, they're like, I don't know. They seem to actually care. Yeah, no, they've been very cool. Concerns once, I called up, they talked me through it. It's great. I actually believe in them. So you can go there and just get, like, if you're just curious about your testosterone, you go there, you can get a free reading, and then you don't even have to ever give you guys money or anything.

Right? Seriously. I mean, just kind of see where you land. Yeah. It's a concierge's business, and as Jake was saying, we want clinicians and all of our staff to care deeply for the patients because if the patients come, it's their choice. We don't take insurance because we think we can take a lot better care of the patient than if we had to go through insurance. And when you come in, we want to treat you like world class or just make you feel as comfortable as possible. and we do offer a lot of services

that maybe the typical doctor doesn't know about or offer and I won't say they're revolutionary but they definitely help optimize your health reduce aging and just make you feel great again and whether it's hormone replacement peptides as we were talking about ED issues I mean 50% of guys experience ED issues throughout their life and we'd love to be able to assist in helping

you feel good again and either pleasing yourself or your wife or partner. Are we still doing the 10% off if you mentioned the dumb zone? Yes, we are. For life, right? For life. So I shouldn't even have asked that because it's forever. You guys will not discontinue that. So I just have one quick one on the peptide thing.

You can just do that as part of like a short run, right? Like it doesn't need to be the full. Yeah, typically we recommend cycling on peptides, depending on the peptide. but sometimes three months on, one month off, six months on, two months off. And then we can also do blood panels, depending on what you're looking at to see how your body's interacted with the peptide. What if you were just like, I have a big month coming up. Could you do it for like a few weeks or something?

Or like, how does that work? You really need to get the three months? Well, we would recommend at least three months. But, I mean, I take peptides and I could tell pretty much from the first. second, third day that I was sleeping better. I've had sleep apnea for 15 years, and I feel a lot more energized now that I'm on peptides, and that was pretty automatic. But some of the medication and depend on the person will react to it differently. In Travis using them for like old war injury, not war, you know, basketball injuries and stuff? Yeah, for recovery for that. How much do you

think microplastics are playing a part in testosterone levels reduction? I can't specify just microplastics, but from the research, it's crazy. It's microplastics, food, toxins. It's just from 1950, well, now a 20-year-old has the testosterone level that a 70-year-old did in 1950. Wow. Wait, say that again. Now the average 20-year-old has testosterone that and a 70-year-old did in the 50s. Why? Because of everything we're just talking about. Plastics and whatnot.

Plastics. Bad food. Bad food. So it's not my fault. We're not going to have to worry about it because of the robots. Yeah, yeah, the data centers. But yeah, like, T.C. and I read this article or talked about something 12 years ago about, like, you know, these microplastics are shrinking your taint.

Yeah. Huh. And it was an act. Maybe so the Instagram moms are. That actually is an indicator of, like, your testosterone. and it definitely is actually a part of what's the Instagram wives are correct well I mean it's when they're telling it from the people who have been saying for a while there's a lot of stuff in our everything that it's just yeah it's almost too overwhelming though

to even like like how do I change everything yeah you don't you just do this yeah yeah just take care of it just go get pumped up yeah yeah if you think about everything you can change it's just overwhelming and you'll be run with anxiety. I don't know all the reasons and that's one the after I started researching because I wasn't on TRT but I knew friends and different business colleagues, all of them were on it. They all said it was a game changer and unfortunately whatever has caused it in this world it's happened but yeah like you were saying taint shrivel up um sperm reduction. Real thing folks. A lot of issues. and you want to check this one over here a year in I would like to yeah we'll definitely get flagged for that though if we do it on the air yeah probably probably after the show yeah it's interesting yeah well I'm glad y'all are there to help people yeah thank you for having us on and we'd love to help people and it's been crazy because our average patient we target is probably 35 to 65 and there's a lot of guys in their 20s now are coming in that have

their testosterone below 300 or 400 what's the good level what what should you be at um we try to get guys anywhere from 800 to 1100 and that's dependent on age and just their own chemical and physiology of their body but most people we see probably under 400 wow there's some guys in the six hundreds but um we also look at uh free tea and if it's below 20 we can help with that where the 800 to 1100 is the total T. So there's a couple mechanisms to see if they do have low T and

obviously side effects of low libido being tired, brain fog, or some early indicators of it. What if the horny voices in your head just won't ever stop and you want to just be dropped about They don't have anything for you, pal.

I would say you're... No one does. You don't have anything for that. No. All right. Well, anything. else you want to add um just i know with new year coming around valentine's day is about 12 weeks out um the holidays are approaching you guys got a big counter down to valentine's day in the office we don't but with holidays approaching everybody gets busy have a lot of parties so you're probably eating or drinking a little too much so once that's over we're happy to help with

we'll we'll have new year's promotions and specials and valentine's days about 12 weeks out so some of the ED solutions we have, it takes usually six to 12 weeks depending on what service you want. So if you are interested and you want to optimize your weiner. It's your life. Oh, yeah, yeah. Your weiner or your life, now is a great time.

That's a great time. I think wives could gift their husbands, a gift card or a trip to, you know, it's kind of like the husband giving the wife a treadmill. well that would be that would infer that's kind of negative then right no it's like hey this has been a problem here I'm going to help you do something no this is another where more men don't get the same you know grace that women get if we gave you a treadmill that would be viewed as very offensive where if you gave us this you'd be like oh cool she wants to F let's uh this is you know what I mean yeah there's no winning so it's not fair once again Julia is right though we actually have quite a few women that

are the ones pushing the guys. Yeah. Sometimes it's hard for them to admit to themselves maybe, right? And guys aren't used to being vulnerable. And it's a vulnerable situation in some regards if they aren't used to talking. So the wife or partner gives that push that they might need. Right. Just like, hey, could you go pick up groceries and go by Game Day Men's Health?

I'll see you at 4. That's what the wives are doing. I think it's a great idea. Well, go see Sam Bates at Game Day Men's Health in Lake. He's saying today, today only, Lakewood is the premier location, right? That's right. You'd rather people stop by Lakewood today while you're... Gameday.dumzone.com.

And, yeah, good times. Thanks, Sam. Yeah, thank you for having me on. Adios, mofo. We've got to go before this becomes a zoo. Thank you for watching my video. Subscribe and type for my name if you want to watch more of my video.