The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 11-26-25 | Dan triple plays Shedeur Sanders in DeeZ Picks with Cirque Du Sirois

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneOur show is taken to Graham, Texas today where we go over our Thanksgiving plans, pick some games w...ith Cirque Du Sirois, drop some Edgar Allan Poe references, and discuss a bad bit from Erin Andrews.  (00:00) - Open: Thanksgiving plans (15:05) - Sports: Shedeur ignites Cleveland (34:26) - DeeZ Picks Week 13 with Cirque Du Sirois (01:04:23) - Big (Wednesday) Viewer Mail Bag (01:29:27) - News: Hot news anchor PPP fraud (01:53:24) - VM birthdays/Today in History (02:18:16) - Bad bit/Closing remarks ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm DFWZone, Danny Bayless, letting you know that you are about to hear a free podcast of the DumbZone. But if you'd like to subscribe at DumbZone.com, you will get four shows per week plus the weekend wrap-up and any bonus epies like our Business Wednesday interviews. Oh, you'll also get our DZTV archives. Again, that's Dumbzone.com to subscribe. Now, on to today's program. Let us talk about one-day doors and closets, where you can replace all the interior doors in your house in just one day without any messy construction. Fully finished, cabinet-grade paint, solid.
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Starting point is 00:02:19 Hello friends, we are looking live Not at our Game Day men's health studio That's in downtown Dallas, gameday.dumzone.com. We are not. High atop my garage, where we often are, where we do the game streams and whatnot. High atop my garage is kind of my home away from home now for broadcasting,
Starting point is 00:02:46 even though it's my home. It's very confusing. It's a gummy thought. How much time, speaking of, how much time do you spend up there, is it the same amount of time at night now, or do you feel like I got to get away from the cubicle? Well, no, where I sit nightly is three feet away from where I sit doing the show. So it's a whole...
Starting point is 00:03:07 Different perspective. A whole different scene. Sure. And you guys aren't there. You and the boys. It just feels... Me boys. Yeah, it's just me boys who are fighting and fighting uphill.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Okay. Quick producing on the fly. Yeah. Okay. Just because, you know. I'm not getting, can I leave the stream yard and come back? Mm-hmm. Okay, I just want to make sure that wasn't going to screw up your recording.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Nope. Continue. All right. Where we are, though, I just told you where we're not. There's a lot of places we're not. Mm-hmm. There's one place that we are. The home of the great-grandfather of Easton Wolf.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You know Easton Wolf? I do. Send in the Wolf. he's a legendary listener slash viewer of our program he was a valedictorian he did the my pig speech for his speech uh for his valedictorians to speak i don't know i don't know they left before that part they were never asking me yeah yeah um but we're out here at his behest he uh is home from college and because he's a special case, his dad is a special case, like they're extra special people.
Starting point is 00:04:31 We said, we will drive to Graham, Texas. Is that where we are? Graham. A place that I didn't know existed two days ago. Right. If you've been to all these small places like Boyd or whatever, like think smaller and think farther away. We're in Graham, Texas.
Starting point is 00:04:51 We're at an address that is not even listed on Apple Maps. I put his address in Apple Maps, and it took me to North Carolina. So that's why I was a little late. Yeah, I told them when we got here, and I know you were telling them as well, you bought a dog out Paradise Way. Poodles from Paradise, if you ever want to buy a poodle. Nice old lady there breeds poodles. But I don't know what everyone's growing up in Texas experience was.
Starting point is 00:05:21 and so I don't know how much of this you've seen or not, right? But my grandparents lived in a place very similar to this or on a piece of property similar to this. I would love to be a grandparent living here. Yeah. There's hundreds of acres. Yeah. How much is here?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Two hundred and thirty acres? Wow. I wonder how many steps you get if you walked out. Get lost like cane brown. That's top gold thing, thank you. I deemed it as such Right You've determined that's a good point
Starting point is 00:05:54 But no I love it out here I really do And we were talking to our buddy Andy From the Argyle broadcast And you know I was only about 20 minutes out of DFW And he's like it's gonna get nice on your way out there There's actually like a nice hilly part of that drive
Starting point is 00:06:09 And I didn't believe it I glazed over when he said that Like I'm not Oh no I agree with him though I'd never been down that stretch going west And it's very nice I love it out here I don't know that that ever improves or makes my drive somewhere.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Like, if I have three hours to get somewhere, I don't care if it's through a mountain or just on the... Oh, that's an awful take. Yeah? That's it, but it's good for you, though, because that's why you're happy living in the s-hole that is DFW. It's like, just surround me by concrete and Jimmy Johns. This is, like, perfect scenery. I'm just saying some people will take, like, well, it takes 20 minutes long, but it's beautiful. I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 That's where I definitely do not agree. No way. But I do feel like it's better on your brain. But yeah, I feel like sometime during the show today, a copperhead might get smashed with a shovel. Oh, there's all sorts of nefarious things that could happen out here. Yeah. Like if we never come back, they couldn't find.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Where are they going to find us? Great point. Great point. Easton might, I mean, he's a smart kid. He might be plotting our demise right now. And this is not, you know. He knows I don't have a will yet, Texas wheels. This is just because I peruse the news, and I did grow up coming out this way a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'm endlessly fascinated by, be it the mobile home, the trailer, or the house that is in disrepair, 12 cars out front. Those are the people that lived, like, on each side of my grandpa, and it was just a very chaotic, fluid scene. Like, what's going on out there? Who lives there? you'll see a new story about like, well, there were four people living there, all like adult-age roommates, and now three of them are dead. It's just a wild, wild West. So on today's program, today is Wednesday, but today is our Thursday because Thursday is Thanksgiving. We're not going to do a show on Thanksgiving. It feels like Friday. Well, Friday is going to be our
Starting point is 00:08:13 Friday because we're doing a show in Austin for Lone Star Beer. We'll be out at the Canaan Ables in Austin from 2.30 to 530. So exciting. As a pregame for Aggie Longhorn and a post game for Chief Cowboy. So yeah. Oh, okay. So today, on today's program, Picks with Cirque de Soroy. We will do that in about 20 minutes or so.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I see a bunch of football stuff otherwise than that. Oh, it's Viewer Mail Day. We're still doing Viewer Mail. Are you ready for it? Yeah. Slow week. Short week, it feels like. But I got a couple nugs.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I got a couple. Choice nugs. Yeah. Tasty nugs. Maybe we can do Blake's pre-kend check. Oh, you've got to go to the Cowboy game tomorrow. I get to go to the Cowboy game tomorrow. Is that how it's being viewed at home?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Their Thanksgiving feast. Is it different? I've heard it's Thanksgiving related, yeah. Okay. So maybe some fried turkey at the carving station. It'd be nice. We're all going to wear ties. Do you pick up Burline?
Starting point is 00:09:30 I do. Okay. How did you get him to opt into the tie? I asked him. Why are you going to wear ties? Just because it's Thanksgiving. I thought it'd be nice to dress up. a little bit you it's my idea i support this look at this guy i just i want it to feel different
Starting point is 00:09:46 it's a holiday what are you the uh u.s transportation secretary dude blow me up that's awesome that's way over my head brother he wants you to dress nicer on flights oh i did that's not a fake article no no the reality tv star who's in charge of uh of the u.s transportation is like just don't be a come on don't be a slob yeah everybody's complaining about the delays and this and that and he's like well how about we start here yeah Yeah, that'll help. Start with a haircut, hippie. That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And then as he hops on his private jet, dressed nicely. So I asked Ted if he'd be cool wearing a tie, and I was hesitant to do so because... You're a first-year producer, and he's a seasoned veteran, and you're just telling him... Okay, I don't need to be reminded of that, that I'm not in Ted's League, and I don't know how much longer I'll be able to do this job. but he said for Halloween his color guy is a big dress up for Halloween guy and so he got a text the day before that he wanted to do some sort of bit because I think they were on ESPN 2 which is a big deal to get on actual what it what is it what is it you or something not stream it linear linear yeah okay
Starting point is 00:11:03 and so the color guy got Ted himself and the sideline reporter to go to the generic Halloween costume store the day before the game so they could all pick out matching outfits for the game. I don't think what I'm asking is quite that much to just put a tie on.
Starting point is 00:11:21 But you asked Ted and Berline. Yeah. Hey guys. What if we dressed up? It's really nice. And they obliged. They obliged. So we're going to have a cute little photo on the field with all of us in ties. God, call no Vialo. Totally.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Geez. So how is the, you're getting to go to Thanksgiving playing at home this year? It's been discussed. It's known that I will not be around on Thanksgiving and I will also not be around on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. He's like Pat Mahomes. I know. You know? Yeah, right. Basically.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Walk on out there and see what you're doing. Just start reading off a list of other people who have to work on those days. The president. Yeah. Yeah. Important people. Yep. No days off. Yeah, I mean, I think one of the most difficult things about dealing with, I'm just going to say the woman I know, but I think it's probably all of them. The soup off champ.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I just can't get her to understand that all of these things that bother her are man-made conventions that are just they don't matter. What day this happens, what day that happens. Oh, like if you don't, we don't celebrate your birthday on this day? Or, yeah, any of these things. I mean, it's man-made that you have to celebrate it. It's man-made. And then just the idea of, like, we've got to do this because that's the way that, and it's like,
Starting point is 00:12:47 you're in a prison, sister. Break on out. That doesn't go over well. That's right. That's the way I believe when you could watch, I can watch a game a half hour after it starts. Open presents at noon. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:00 It's your life. She approaches you with an emotional problem where it makes me sad I don't get to see you on this day. and you hit her with. Listen, it's a man-made corporation day. It doesn't need to happen. I like it. This is because of capitalism.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Everything is. It's a higher, more advanced take than Hallmark invented this holiday that, you know? Speaking of the president, are you upset with him? Here's why I'm upset with Trump. I haven't taken issue lately. Well, no, it's because a lot of things that he just thinks sucks. He just doesn't do. And then you're like, yeah, why do, why does everybody do that?
Starting point is 00:13:42 He's probably right on that. Paying taxes. Well, maybe 10 taxes, but the White House correspondence dinner. Yeah. You know, that was always just, I always thought that was kind of a bad bet. And he's like, I'm not going to that. I'm not doing it. You guys go ahead and do it if you want.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I don't know. Stupid. Wouldn't you think he would have done that for pardoning a turkey before Thanksgiving? Great point. I'm out. Great point. I got, we're golfing. Like, there's so many more important things we could be doing.
Starting point is 00:14:12 If anybody had the juice and the gumption to do it, it would have been him. Like, I'm out on this. So it may be here forever. Although he does hand out candy at Halloween. They do that big. And God, thank you that he does, because he did it again this year, didn't he? Did he, like, put a candy bar on someone's head? He did it too.
Starting point is 00:14:29 He did it on top of a minion back in, like, 2017. So that's the thing is that I don't know now when he does something. like that if he's doing a callback because he's just got such great bits like any master comedian that I'm like is that new or is he referencing the old thing yeah like Seinfeld would occasionally pull out the sock he can't find in the dryer and you're like yeah there it is he's dropping the candy on his head yeah that's a that's an interesting one that's our political political talk political talk i think for the day um do you want to hear a little sport do a little sports yeah let's do a little sports let's see can we have a little sports brought to us by
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Starting point is 00:16:48 From the wonderful world of sports, radio sports, scoreboard. Oh, yeah, I like that. Blake, I'm going to unmute my computer and let's see if chaos ensues. Okay, okay, okay. Yes? Oh, I wanted the echo, too. I turned it off. Good.
Starting point is 00:17:05 All right. So I can't play audio. Well, that's too bad, huh? No, hold on. We're going to have to figure something out. You can start. Well, I had some shoddy, and... Wait, is this the one I wanted?
Starting point is 00:17:19 No, you can do. All right, let's see if you can get it. You want me to go? Yeah. All right, I want to do sound. to the sideline first. Okay. Just a quick little run through here because, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:29 we were talking about watching the game and viewing the body language and the affect of the players on Sunday during the game and how bummed everybody looked and what you expect from a guy like CD to not be maybe necessarily in pout mode. This is after Turpin fumbled, so things are going horribly. And I just pulled a little bit of DAC on the sideline. there was a horrible CD drop there was a horrible turp and fumble
Starting point is 00:17:59 but he still just rolls this is dad let's go for that hey let's go I got you I got you hundred a minute where I get
Starting point is 00:18:11 we're not about to do all that stay right here it's simple but he's just giving him the we're not about to do all that this is not us like you're stay in it
Starting point is 00:18:21 whatever and then I think that's part of the reason why when he scores the whole team goes insane. I love having an old quarterback because when you have an unk quarterback, especially if he's able to go run for a touchdown, it's the closest thing you're going to get in the NFL
Starting point is 00:18:38 to when they let a special needs kid score and everybody's extremely happy for him because they're legitimately proud. That's how everyone is when back scored. Yeah, not one yard either. No, no, it was an athletic player. So there's a couple things in here. Like we didn't have that in the...
Starting point is 00:18:54 No. They're yelling at him, you know, who said you're old? Who said they're doing breadshund? You are a hilled? You're a hit? You're a head? You're a head? You're not going to run.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Hey, you said old man can't run. Did you hear that? Yeah, okay. So that's... Everything's fun. That's fun. So is having Brandon Aubrey and introducing Brandon Aubrey to new players. Because this happened with George Pickens earlier in the year.
Starting point is 00:19:41 There was someone else, I think we saw, it must have been just after the game where he hit two. Was that the Giants game? Yeah. Where players were being asked about it. There was the sounds of the sideline. And there's always new guys that are like, he can hit that? Like, I've only seen him on Madden or something, you know? They don't.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And this is right before the game winner. They're about, you know, they're starting to march. And it's OSA on the sideline talking to Quinn and Williams. And one, it's funny to me that Osa still calls him Brandon Aubrey. Not VA, not Brandon, not Aubrey. But Quinnon is blown away. All we have to do is snit out of the time of the 50, and Brandon Aubrey's going to kick us a field going to win us a fucking game.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You make that for him? That's why he got an X-Fact on Madden. Do you make that out, boy? That's why he has an extra what on Madden? An X-factor, I guess that's... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quinn and Williams only knows that they can feel good about this Aubrey attempt, not because O'S is like 50 were good.
Starting point is 00:20:45 He's like, oh, that's right. He's got the X factor on Madden. Like, that's his context. All we have to do is sniff out of the title of the 50. And Brendan Aubrey's going to kick us a field going to win us a fucking game. You can make that for him? That's why he got an extract zone, man, is? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:00 You're already where we need to be at to kick a field goal. So he can kick us 61? I know I'm still new to this. Press shots back. So, just a cool angle to getting new players is at some point they're going to realize, oh, shit, we got a different kicker. It's unfortunate. Because honestly, they're never thinking about it other than.
Starting point is 00:21:22 than right then. Yeah. So that's new, new info. It's unfortunate that you don't get sides of the sideline if they would have barely lost that game.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I know. Because those are fun. I know, and look, you know, we know people who work there or have worked there over the years
Starting point is 00:21:37 and can confirm because they hear all of it. Oh, yeah. I mean, they've got it. All right, I have a little audio. One is shoddy. So really I have two sets of audio
Starting point is 00:21:51 and they kind of both fall under the heading of we are hanging Mission Accomplished banners. Oh, no. And one is Shottie. One is Shadour. I'll start with Shottie as he's going to hit a few bingoes here as well. This is the very end of his press conference the day after the win. And he's kind of reflecting on everything here.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But we'll start with a bingo, and we'll end with a bingo. You know, it's just one of those situations that, you know, you take time to, you know, count your blessings. And, again, it starts for me with my faith and then my family and then certainly this football team. That's a different way of saying it. I like that.
Starting point is 00:22:37 A new little spin, a jazz version. Yeah, no, yeah. You've got to change things up. Again, I'll remember, you know, last night's game for a while just because, again, it was very, you know. You know, we didn't do that. there the 24-hour rule or whatever the midnight rule like we just put that behind us and we now got a look ahead counterpoint go on i'm not trying to be not you can't after you win a game at home
Starting point is 00:23:05 emotional like that after a guy kills himself you can't be like we're flushing this one how many games don't think about it after how many games do we get after he kills himself it's a good point what if i was curious uh kc as well i asked this question the other day blake offered well it was the first home one. So I do think now they have to go, but it would have been probably pretty callous if he got up there and was like, this is any other game we move on to next week. It also would have been awesome. Again, I'll remember, you know, last night's game for a while just because, again, it was very, you know, the last time we'll win for a month. It was very big step for us to do what we're able to do on that second half. It had nothing to do with Marshawn Neeland. It had
Starting point is 00:23:47 nothing to do it. It had everything to do with that it was a huge step for this team to take. Do you see that banner behind me? We've taken the step and we are now that team. You're kind of approaching one year as an NFL head coach. What have you learned about yourself since you take care of? Boy, and this is a question that you just wouldn't even pull out in half the press conferences in the NFL, if not 90%. Like if you asked Tomlin, what have you learned about yourself? He'd just stare at you and be like, Like, I don't know. I learned that you're gay.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, I know. He was. But this is one in the shot, he's probably like, oh, great question, bro. Great question. Oh, man, you should have asked that question at the beginning of the press conference because there's been a lot of things. Translation?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Because then I could have just talked about myself for the next 20 minutes, right? I think the number one thing I say is that I believe and I say this humbly. Okay. Is whatever he's about to say a humble statement? No. Let's find out. I think the number one thing I've say is. that I believe, and I say this humbly, you know, I was ready for this opportunity. Why?
Starting point is 00:24:51 I knew what I was. Bingo. I'm everywhere. I'm everywhere. I was ready for this opportunity. Why? I knew what I wanted. I knew what I was made of. I knew the type of young men that I wanted to coach and be around. And I think I feel really good about the coaching staff we put together. There's certainly been things that have come across my desk that I had no idea how to deal with. Just say being honest, and I either leaned on my contacts and trusted advisors or I trusted my instincts and my gut. And I think one of the things that my pops probably gave me from the game of my instincts for how to lead people are pretty strong. And I think that I do trust and listen to my gut a lot. If I'm torn, I kind of listen to what my gut tells me. Good. Thank you. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Oh, there we go. There's obviously a lot there. He's an extremely confident guy, and he's now the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. So really the character study for him to me is it's crazy that he was able to stay that confident, despite his entire industry telling him that he was not really coveted. And then lo and behold, here comes Jerry, and now he's got validation. Why wouldn't he think? I'm shit.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Everybody was just wrong forever. It's not just that, you know, I've got C.D. and George Pickens with Dack. It's that everybody was wrong for 20 years. That's what you do wonder. But you still got to cook the dinner. Barry Switzer was named the Cowboys coach after Jimmy, but let's say that was Dave Campo instead. Yeah. Do they win a Super Bowl somewhere in there?
Starting point is 00:26:37 Probably. And then Dave Campo is not a punchline or Barry Switcher's actually a cowboy coach punchline. So maybe you still could be after. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, either way, they had a lot going. You got to at least say that when they got shotty. This is not his, he's not the artistic here. This is still a team that went, what, 11 wins, like three years in a row or 12?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Three years in a row, and then they had an injury year. So it's a large part, you know, many of the key parts of that team, mainly DAC, of course. And that's the part you want to have. The quarterback is the part you want to have, like the Browns. and let's keep hanging mission accomplished banners Shador Sanders in his postgame press conference after winning on the road in Las Vegas I wanted to talk to the media
Starting point is 00:27:32 well he had to talk he loved talking to media this day everybody starts different places and like I say just because I didn't get the summer reps passive aggressively kind of mentioned Point that out. A few things here. Also, it makes it kind of like a what you expect. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:50 That's always good. The summer reps, you know, just because I wasn't in the best situation for me to be prepared to go out there and execute, like, from a summer standpoint, that's how life is. You know, everybody's not in the right, everybody's not in the best situation, you know, but there's no excuse. You got to go out there and perform. Like, there's no choice, no question. Nobody cares if this was one week of prep.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Who care? You know? So a lot of people wanted to see me fail, and it ain't going to happen. You know, it ain't going to happen. Okay. He will not fail. He went on as throughout this press coverage. He's going all over the place, but he did talk about the fact that he grew up in a unique way
Starting point is 00:28:41 from a lot of NFL players. and he's going to end with something that I think is funny. We'll see if you think it's funny as well. And the thing was I was always great at understanding perspectives and stuff because you've got to really take a deep dive at how we grew up. Like when we grew up, my dad had us in a 30,000 square foot home. Then after that, he took us to go play ball in the inner city. You know, after that we transferred and he moved us across town
Starting point is 00:29:07 because he wanted us to get that dog in us, you know, to have that mentality, to have that it factor in us. And so then we went to charter schools. And I don't know if you're familiar with charter schools. And, like, you know, it's not the best. But that's the thing I thought was funny. Do you think it's funny? Why?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Didn't Dion start a charter school? Okay. He's like, he went to the school that his dad started. It was universally ripped and said this school sucks. And then he's like, yeah, we had to go to this charter school that sucked. Yeah, okay. Now piece in a row. You invented the charter school.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I couldn't recall. I did not piece. that all together at the time yes and also uh well i don't know how inner city you know can you i was just going to on its face i find that a little bit uh show but you really think he got like a taste of what it's like to be like economically disadvantaged and fighting and scrapping like that's why those kids are playing like that right just like driving in and being dropped off yeah so like you can just download desperation i don't think so you know he probably thinks that but i find that a bit odd but i'm excited to see him play
Starting point is 00:30:16 i really am dude i hope it works because i loved him in college he's a fun player to watch you know who else is excited the ken carman and anthony leima lima the sports boy tony show in cleveland this was six a m the day after the browns game and so if you think some cowboy fans are silly for like, hey, you're 5, 5, and 1. Let's just settle down on how excited we should be for the playoff chances. What's the Browns record right now? Didn't they have that handy? It's not great.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And they're the Browns. But this is where you're at. Like when you're a fan base that has experienced 0 and 16 in the last handful of years, and really the most downtrodden NFL fan base has to be the clearest. I mean, their star player, their franchise player, whether it was last year or the year before, he was on the O-N-16 team, and he said, this year's worse than that. Garrett said that? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Well, there you go. So here, but here's how you would start your show with Sports Talk Radio the next day after the Browns actually win a game. Hi, Tone, good morning. Teddy? Mike's not on. Teddy. Super Bowl! Super Browns!
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yeah! Audio courtesy of the U.H. Braves Radio Network, it is time to get festive in downtown Cleveland, baby. He did it. He did it. They did it. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And you were worried. You were worried. Hell yeah, I was worried. Come on. Hell yeah. Why wouldn't I be worried? Three days of practice. Barely any reps beforehand.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Oh, God, do we talk about the reps beforehand? Our reps overrated in the NFL. Oh, my God. Holy she. And I know the people who are two readers. You guys, I know it was a radio. Why don't you relax for a second, okay? I was so excited that...
Starting point is 00:32:42 Okay. That's awesome. Even if it's kind of tongue and cheek, I'm excited for those guys. I, my skin crawls thinking about the fact that they actually had to do a segment called Do Reps Matter? But good for them. It's funny to look at their show run sheet. Like I downloaded the three-hour thing and you can just see... It's like a...
Starting point is 00:33:08 they'll do a whole segment on Jerry Judy. Yeah. Like, let's just talk Jerry Judy now for 15 consecutive minutes. Can you imagine that life? I cannot. No. I don't think I could do it for the Gilmer. What was the hypothetical?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Oh, the Hearn. Heard. You just have to talk Hearn sports. I couldn't even do it for the Browns. Just talk Browns. The Browns are like, you have to live in Cleveland for 10 years. You have paid a million dollars a year, but you cannot leave the city that you're in.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And all day is Browns. The Hearn hypothetical is you can only talk Hearn Sports. You cannot even mention how Hearn Sports reminds you of the Cowboys this past week. You just have to talk about Hearn Sports, as Hearn Sports are. But you make a million dollars a year. You sign a 10-year deal, and you can never leave the city of Hearn for that 10 years. How old are you? 40, 39?
Starting point is 00:34:06 40, yeah. You can leave Hearn when you're 50 years old. That sounds awful. No taxes on the money either. I don't think I would do it. You live in the biggest house in Hearn, which really is probably half the size of this place we're at now. We're about to do picks with Soroy's.
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Starting point is 00:35:24 Most of their guys are okay. Don't be afraid community mechanical. I don't like that one. Most other guys are okay. I don't even want to acknowledge that. Most of their guys are okay. Most of their guys. Oh, okay.
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Starting point is 00:35:57 I like that at the end. That's a nice little sting. That chick's hot. Community DfW. comp she is i downloaded the image all right what's up boys let's do some picks oh yes joining us now cirque do siroy oh let's do this ladies and gentlemen boys and girls children of all ages it is time for these picks that is right the sirroy twins Oh, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I thought that was this. The Soroy Twins. One is fraternal. That's Danny. Join us every week to do picks. NFL picks. The Soros, of course, can be this Cirque de Soroy is on YouTube. When is your program this week?
Starting point is 00:37:03 It was just last night. We're just doing Tuesday this week. We're not going to be doing a live show on Thanksgiving evening. We thought that not a good idea for us or the viewer. So one and done that just working one day this week. And then today we do that, I guess working two days. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I think last week we didn't talk about it much on the air. But because of scheduling issues and whatnot and things we have coming up on the show, picks actually ended right before last week's show so nothing that happened last week counts and the season is actually over i'm not sure if you guys saw this i don't know about that that's fortunate for you week 12 we just cut it off huh well yeah a dozen that's kind of what we're known for oh yeah i know you guys like numerology right we're known for that last week was So Shottie says he's humbled. I will humbly say that I'm a great coach
Starting point is 00:38:11 and that guys respond to me and going with my gut is usually the best way. That's what Shottie would say. I don't think Shottie understands what humbling is. I'm looking right here at humbling. My picks. My picks. We pick 10 games every week.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Actually seven and then we have a triple play. I went 0 and 10. Has anyone done that? Did you go O-N-10 this year? Maybe. I don't remember. Okay. I know you hit a 1-9.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I've done that. I know Jake hit a 10-0. I think I had a 2-8, but I think that's as bad as I got. But I am, in my defense, I want to say, it's as hard to go 0-10 as it is to go 10-0, I would believe. It's as as, you know, hard to get back from down 21-0-0 as it is easy to get down, right? Like the Cowboys just flipped the script last week. 21 to 21 add them you're fine just flip it just that's all i have to do that's what they did
Starting point is 00:39:10 is just flip it listen to jake okay jake is the shoddy of the show uh very positive maybe the dac you want to be the dac of the show what would you rather be uh you can only choose one of those two guys i want to because the other guys no one else is on the sideline walking up and telling people anything uh yeah i'll be deck okay i'll be deck he knows dude perfect so who is your don't am i shravon diggs what am i like um got beat up by your girlfriend am i c d lamb because he's got multiple girlfriends so if he gets beat up by one he could just grab the other phone like you hear danny no i'm texting him uh-oh danny is apparently talking i hear dandy in our ears yes i hear you we have so much
Starting point is 00:39:55 danny here saying some important things danny is living life large because i think it was uh the week prior he won a triple play just because of our rules that we have a push equals a win and then this week he takes the jets plus 13 and a half against the ravenus and he the jets lost by 13 and so he got that half point the hook called a cover it is called a cover it doesn't matter right? The win. If you cover by 20 or if you cover by 0.5. Yeah, so let me just take a look at the standings.
Starting point is 00:40:39 O and 10 will not help you in the standings. No. How did that feel? Did you feel it happening while it was happening? Well, so of course Saturday happened. And you can always talk yourself into, you know what? I never watch college football. I don't know anything about college football.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I'm a pro guy. I'm more of an NFL guy for sure. and I usually get it back on Sunday, and I'd like to be one and two, but, you know, what's the different? Oh, and three, one and two. It's not that big of a deal. We'll get that triple play. We'll be right back in things, and everything's going to be fun. Then, yes, as the day unfolded on Saturday, or excuse me, Sunday, and I see the Browns just destroying the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:41:22 You know, Kansas City had their problems as they were down, like, 17 at one point in that. I mean, everything. And then I had the very odd feeling as I'm watching the cowboy game. We were doing the live stream. Jake has his triple play on the cowboy game. So as a team, we need those three games. But I had picked the Eagles. And as a person who doesn't want to be embarrassed nationally like I am here on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:41:49 internationally, as a matter of fact, I was actually feeling happy. You know what? I know the team's going to be losing. But I think at least I'm going to have one win. Right. I snatched that from you. Right. And then you snatch that for me.
Starting point is 00:42:06 That is a dirty game when you're cheering. You know it's worse for your team, but you're like, come on. I just need a little help in the win column here. Our team is, we're pretty good at cheering for what's best for the greater good on Team Soroy, I think. Cirque is selfless, at least outwardly. I had to drop out. You guys went 0 and 10 and still picked up a game. Did you mention that?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Well, I went 0 and 10, yes, and the rest of the team. One of you went 0 and 10 and still picked up a game on us because we were, what, three back and now four? Yes, well, thanks to Blake's 9 and 1. Yeah, 9 and 1, dude. Big. Good job, Blake. Blake Jones, everyone. Hey, better late than never.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Okay. That mustache knows how to pick games for sure. Blake sees a lot of football guys. I realize I couldn't do the mustache for Brandon this week because we've been filming stuff and we're we have another you know we're filming stuff for our December 22nd show Scorsesee well I can't look
Starting point is 00:43:05 at a sequence can I don't you think there would be a major continuity issue yeah man I'm Scorsesey is you are it's just you know the godfather we got to find the exact table skirt
Starting point is 00:43:19 anyway here's the standings Jake Kemp remains on top. Buy a lot. He's ahead of Mike Soroy by eight games. 67 wins this year. How many have we picked so far?
Starting point is 00:43:37 110, 120. You have 67 wins. And you're the only guy who is over 50% among the six of us. Mike Soroy has 59 wins. Danny now with 56, with his incredible charge. Blake with 55, the nine in one week will vault you up to fourth place. Cash, who has been comfortably in last place throughout the season. Now is pretty comfortably in fifth place.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Sniffing around. He is 54 wins. And if you remember how many wins I had last week? Just copy paste. We'll retweet. The same amount of wins, 51 wins, a drop from third. to sixth. Confidence is shot.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Think CD on the sideline. Oh, yeah, he's flopping around, looking at his hands. This is me right now. I'm going to point it, Dak, because it's not my, you, why don't you put the ball over here? Son, I got a bad quarterback. Yeah. I got this, A-hole, freaking pickings,
Starting point is 00:44:51 taking my good balls that I'm supposed to get. So Dan's staring at is my bookie app Like it's his fault This is unbelievable Cowboy games I'm two and nine
Starting point is 00:45:07 Anyway so yes As a team though The good guys Still lead this thing By four games We have 173 wins this year And Cirque has 169
Starting point is 00:45:18 Which is nice Hey now Yeah Any other thoughts you guys have on the NFL or picks or anything? Well, I thought this was the week we were definitely finally settling the format and payoff. Okay. Well, that'll be right when we get back.
Starting point is 00:45:34 We've got a lot of time to think about that. We have a long Thanksgiving break. Drive home today. A long drive home. It's never changed. A long drive down to Austin. Down Austin way. With Mike Soroy, who will be joining us at Kane and Ables on Friday.
Starting point is 00:45:48 That's right. Kind of an odd situation where Mike said, I don't want to drive to. a half hour north of Dallas to do a show with you for some guys who built a whole party around me they made cups with Mike Soroy's face on it still need to get you a cup scheduled us to be there
Starting point is 00:46:07 and then Mike bailed the night before yet he is going to Austin with us I mean all the way down three plus hour drive but don't you get it was over an hour by the way to that remote which I learned the night before so he can go down to Austin
Starting point is 00:46:24 go to the game, party, stay for free, make a whole 24-hour run out of it, or... Yeah, I don't get it. Mike, how are you feeling? You're pretty sick last week. I'm still sick. Yeah, you don't look good. Oh, I thought... I mean, like, 12 days of being congested and coughing shit up.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I was Googling, like, how many days until I should contact my doctor and find out what hell's going on? Like, you have a doctor. I do have a doctor. Team Cirque all has the same doctor. That's right. Agarwal. And I recommend. Best of the best.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Say that last name again? Agarwal. I think you're in good hands. Okay. Something's going on with Mikey's lighting that it looks like he just returned from a minstrel party in like the 20s. Yeah. Minstrel? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Am I in? We're going to, we're going down to Texas. to sing the long horn. He's going to do it in your costume. You're going to do it in blackface? I'm sure it's just the lighting. It's the lighting, yeah. Funny. If you get in the right
Starting point is 00:47:36 position, I'm like, whoa. Paul Mooney. Bold move. Um, um, on me. There's a history there. I'm just saying. If you would, Jake, after you're done with the show, do they call me to help sort out the tickets
Starting point is 00:47:54 situation for Texas versus Texas A&M this Friday. Yeah, well, I'm going to tease something for the listeners. There's about a 50% chance we're going to have two tickets to give away to the game. Oh, go to this. So, but first priority will be people at Canaan Abel's. Kane and Ables, thanks to Lone Star Beer, we'll be down there, not tomorrow. We may have a surplus, and I can't get my money back, so I'm just going to give them to thine people. hell yeah um well call me after got it got it got it got it you want to get going dan yeah let's get
Starting point is 00:48:29 going so we do picks in order of first to worst so i have some time to think to re-evaluate things yeah happen um and in first place as always must get tiring jake kemp i uh i really want to stay away from the the sororoy trap of, hey, I'm going to this game. Somehow that means it'll probably go the way I want it to. But I also don't want to be at a game where I need A&M to win for my benefit. Like, I don't want to be there rooting for A&M because I think A&M is about to beat the brakes off of Texas. And Texas is only getting two and a half.
Starting point is 00:49:16 So I would love to make that the play, but I'm not. Yes, here on the air We like to make our cowboy pick And our triple play Yeah, correct A couple things on Thanksgiving The favorites dominate Thanksgiving Since 2004, we've got a 51 and 9 straight up record
Starting point is 00:49:34 And 40 and 20 against the spread Wow Favorites of seven points or more on Thanksgiving 30 and 5 straight up, 25 and 10 Against the spread That's since 1990 Favorites in night games on Thanksgiving 14 and 4 against the spread since they went to the three-game format.
Starting point is 00:49:55 So as much as I'd love to triple play A&M because I think they're going to blow out the Longhorns, as much as I'd love to triple play, the Cowboys, because I think they're going to edge out Kansas City. My triple play is Baltimore on Thanksgiving night, I believe laying seven to Burrow and the Bengals in his return to full-time action. At Baltimore? Yeah. So my triple play. There it is. Oh, you know what? Actually, I think I had a song. Ready. Triple, triple play. It's going to echo. Oh, then never mind. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:50:32 You can't play an echo song? I'll play it never. Play the echo song. Let's hear it. Just play it. Let's hear it echo. All right, sports fans, listen up. It's the moment you've all been waiting for. So crank some harm with us. It's time to change triple play. All right, you started to do that before. I know, I forgot about it. Now turn off. I know. I was also thinking I was dead on audio, but. I like the echo.
Starting point is 00:50:59 It worked on a stadium effect for that one. Yeah. Most audio it'll be. But yeah, crank some hog with the Ravens, minus seven. Okay, maybe Beth will cut that off for us. And then we'll have an echo version. Up next would be Mike Soroy. So wait, you got...
Starting point is 00:51:15 Did you get the Cowboys? Yeah, I'll take the Cowboys, but... Okay. I don't want to move. I don't want to lay it all there. Mikey. Most of my models show... I love this.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I love that bit. I've been wanting to incorporate this into my game. The fact that you're doing it now is great. You can have it. Are showing the Cowboys Plus 3 being a nice play. And I rarely do this, but I'm going against my models. Whoa. I still think the Chiefs are good.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I think they have a couple of losses at the Bills and at the Ravens, which are pretty good teams still. And they just beat Indy. I think we're just in this perfect storm of, holy shit, Cowboys are back, defense is fixed, let's go stomp their ass, and then who knows what our playoff seat is going to be. And I really think the Chiefs kind of thump them.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I kind of think a double-digit win, and I am taking the Kansas City Chiefs minus three points on Thanksgiving Day. mainly because it's hurt so bad and it feels gets a stupid play but I love that it also seems I think this is like if the cowboys were going to lose one of these games this is the one they'd lose like they can afford to lose right maybe yeah non-conference yeah chiefs haven't won here in 50 years I know they never play here I do this is my home's first ever game at AT&T wow yeah um but you're right Cowboys are really good on Thanksgiving. I think it's three straight wins of, like, averaging 17-point victories. They're kind of woven people's ass lately, but I'm taking the Chiefs. Triple play.
Starting point is 00:52:52 You mentioned it, Jay. Texas A&M football, undefeated. Earlier this year, I went down to Duke, and I put a triple play, because I figured I have boots on the field, sneakers in the grass, and it didn't work for me. And I'm going to have that exact same opportunity on Friday. I think we're going to be on the sidelines for a part of it. of it and i am not scared at all to take as a triple play the texas long hole there we go lost
Starting point is 00:53:22 two and a half points i love it i'm not going over two long order jet one hide as hell i think the good we're trying to win here well we'll get to your picks here in a few minutes cat On the other side of a break. After two more spots. Also, I don't think A&M as good as they are. I don't think they played any of the better SEC teams. I mean, that Notre Dame win is good. But honestly, the SEC wins they have are against the bottom of the barrel.
Starting point is 00:53:58 The Texas SEC losses are against pretty legit, good SEC teams. Triple play, Texas, plus two and a half. Let's hook them. Let's hook them. I can make you feel bad about your pick by saying I kind of like that just because Aggie, they're in the playoffs no matter what, right? Obviously, maybe revenge for last year. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:21 It's a tough one, but, you know, it does seem like... Yeah, it does seem like they might not... They could actually be looking ahead, even though it's Texas. Yeah, it's just about the lack of faith in Arch for me. Yeah, he's... I don't want to have to bet on Arch. He's very up and down. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Mike Soroy has triple play or has that. Who's up next? Danny. Fast riser. I'm going to follow. Danny can't miss this year. I'm going to follow the modern day Al Jolson through the gates of hell. And I as well am going to pick the chiefs in this game to beat the Cowboys by more than
Starting point is 00:55:04 they're favored. And I'm going head to head against you. Jake, I'm betting on Burrow Magic to keep this thing within seven. Wow, okay. Let's do it. Wow. Get it out of the way right here. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Finally, get some juice. This is when the tables turn. One way or the other. This is separation. I feel like this is a little bit of moving day. I swear I had these already picked before I even knew what you were going to pick, Jake.
Starting point is 00:55:37 that's great six games swing time baby god it is moving day thanksgiving night wow Blake Jones hey all the way up to fourth place how's it feel air up here is pretty nice pretty crisp
Starting point is 00:55:51 so Mike remind me the ranked visitor playing the unranked home team getting points what does your model say about that um models are home home unranked favorite verse first ranked team.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And that's 0 and 2 this year, right? No, in my plays, it's okay. But it's a winner overall. Because I'm seeing Houston and Baylor, Baylor getting minus two and a half at home, I don't think that's great. Boy, don't, yeah. However, I don't want to touch that
Starting point is 00:56:28 with a 10-foot pole, so I'm going to do this. Grandpa. If there's anyone in college football that'll get their butt a little hurt over a loss. It's Ryan Day. I think he's a little mad that Michigan came into the horseshoe last year and beat him and put their flag at midfield.
Starting point is 00:56:46 So he is going to kick the shit out of Michigan and run up the score of tripling play the Buckeyes. Did your model have, if you can take a rivalry game where you have to cover 10, do it? This is insane. On the road? What are we talking about here? There's no way.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Mark in this tape to playback for next week and then give me the Chiefs, please. and the chiefs and the chiefs wow it's a lot of points all right certainly I must be going
Starting point is 00:57:12 by now oh no apparently not cash soroy is up now cash siroy after a quick TV time out we'll get to I uh
Starting point is 00:57:22 I had one game three two games that I felt really really good about and one game that I had no feeling for and the game I had no feeling for is the chiefs at Cowboys
Starting point is 00:57:34 and so I'm going to just disagree with my team and agree with Jake and I'm taking Cowboys Plus 3. I like points. Points. I have a triple game that I love that I told the guys about, but with Dan behind me, I just, I can't release this gold information out into the world.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And if he won with it, I would just, I would never be able to live with myself. Wow. So I can't give you that. Oh, like I take your second place thing. Now all of a sudden, that's right. That's right. We're all looking at Cass Roah.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Brilliant. What Rhode Island Directional School are you going with this week? Dude, this is just... The Soroyers just love magic. Like, he thinks he's doing a little slide-of-hand thing on you. Yeah, it doesn't work. Instead, I'm going with a team that is going to work this week to finish the job. The West Virginia Mountaineers have had themselves a tough year.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Tons of injuries. And they lost their starting running back. I'm a huge fan of Rich Rod. and West Virginia in general, Clarksburg, till I die. But Tech is playing to cement their spot in the Big 12 championship game, and they want sexy points
Starting point is 00:58:45 in case there's a fight for that first round by. Get them, they're up their guns and wreck them. What? Hard to play up there, man. 11 a.m. kick, it's really tough. Minus 23 and a half. A lot of points. They're going to stomp them.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Ripple. It's a fun play. Wreck them. Cache is an expert. on West Virginia he used to work up there his first job in media where he commanded a salary of 12 5 no no no no no no no no no no no it's true it was 14 5 and then I got the raise to sports director and I got 16 damn that's a TV guy yeah 16000 dollar TV because I did have a $12,000 a year radio job up there somewhere yeah TV money bro Southern Ohio it's like nine people
Starting point is 00:59:35 a free apartment with a TV though I got a thousand dollars a month plus a free apartment oh you got a free apartment yeah but that's where the radio station was too like so people would it was my office god just so much
Starting point is 00:59:49 it's kind of like now poon in there yeah the place I live now is he made it there was a slight amount of poon poon and pot going on above the sewing shop the sewing shop
Starting point is 01:00:05 God, I would have watched that sitcom, man. I really would have. Because it was for a Marietta radio station. It was a satellite to it. But we would do our own. So they would air the same music as Marietta in McConnell'sville. But when they took a news break in the morning, it would be me delivering the five-minute news for just McConnell'sville.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And we would go over to the WJAW Weather Center, which was a thermometer on the outside of my bedroom window. And according to the WJW Weather Center, it is 56 degrees of McConnell'sville and a slight drizzle if the window is a little wet. Fantastic. Yeah. So now we're to me. I have to make a pick.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Down to you. All this left. I am two and nine picking cowboy games. Two and nine. Everyone else is within one of 500, six and five or five and six. I am two and nine. So I'm sorry, cowboy fans, or excuse me, congratulations. Cowboy fans, I pick the Chiefs for Thursday.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'm kind of glad you are, right? Because we're weighted down by my confidence pick every week. So we need somebody. I don't think they're going to win. Okay, I feel like you're sandbagging there, but I probably shouldn't because if you thought they were going to win, you triple play it. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I would. What you do. And throughout this year, I've done a variety of bits. I've done some deep analytics, and nothing's working for me, right? when I'm telling you about Tomlin as a dog at home, which he is against the bills this week, a four-point underdog, although I do like the bills after a loss, too.
Starting point is 01:01:44 You know, there's some analytics there as well. There are some analytics there. Excuse me? I see them. Yeah, look at them sitting right there. He's tried shirts. I've tried wearing different shirts. I mean, I've tried just about everything.
Starting point is 01:01:59 But I was listening to this this week. this was a quarterback who said this. You know, so a lot of people wanted to see me feel in. Oh, no. It ain't going to happen. You know, it ain't going to happen. That's right. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And then I took the temperature of a fan base who's going to get their team at home this week. And just to see, are they sedate? Are they excited about it? Let me just check in with the fan base. Teddy. Super Bulls, Super Browns! Yeah! Audio courtesy of the U.H. Browns Radio Network,
Starting point is 01:02:42 it is time to get festive in downtown Cleveland, David. Dude, what are you doing? Is that what the musers sounded like on Monday? The Cleveland Browns are getting five and a half points at home against the 49ers who had played Sunday night. They're on a short week, and they have to play Miles Garrett at home. Give me the Brown, Super Browns.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I love you, Dan. There's no chance that Robert Sala in the 49ers defense will have a little something for Shador Sanders. I know they're banged up, but man. Stafansky, bro. I don't know how this is only five and a half. Right? The 49ers are good. Peace be with you.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Triple, triple, triple, triple play. Ripple, whipple, whipple, whipple. I think everybody has the potential to go 0 and 10 this week. Yeah. Not me, boys. We're back. We're back. We are back.
Starting point is 01:03:55 By the time we do a dumb zone on Friday with Mike Soroy, we will have some answers to these questions. That's right. That's right. That's right. Well, thank you, Cirque du Soroy. Hey, thank you. And Dan, this is a POV for you.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Yeah. Oh, gross. All right. Cash POV. You're a Dan POV with cash. Just for you, buddy. All right, thanks, man. That all reminds me that we have to do viewer mail.
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Starting point is 01:06:05 I heard that in their quarterly earnings call the other day. I got a couple anchor words. What else are we hawking? What do you mean? Oh, hawking. Wait. What goes with that? Lugies.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Hocking, Lugies? Ball hawking. Deal hawking? No, but that's different, though. Hocking is spitting. Is it H-O-C? is hocking a loogie? Yeah, H-O-C-K, ball hawking is, like, acting as a hawk.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I would say the only other one I could think of is, like, people would say, oh, he's hawking his wares. But I think that would also be a W-K, like selling something. I think we're only hawking lugies, and I don't think you're ever wishing somebody bad riddance. Yeah, that's a good one. Especially around these holiday times, maybe mix it up and tell somebody bad riddance.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I got a couple of those. How about... Oh, go ahead. Let's see. Last Ditch. Effort. Yeah. From rodeo.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Ryan sends in... It's only a large swath of time. Nobody's ever hitting tiny swaths. Yeah. Could you come over to the... Yeah. It's just a tiny swat of time. And then...
Starting point is 01:07:20 To be reckoned with. Reckoned? I guess would be the yanker. Yeah, that one's not bad. That from Jess, who I think, unfortunately, is a dude. Sorry about that. What about cordoned off? Like, do you cordoned something else in a different way?
Starting point is 01:07:40 I don't even know what that word means. Separate? Cordoned off. Yeah, that's a good one. We have respects that you only pay them. Does that count? Respects. There's not.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I can't think of another time when you would pluralize the word respect other than pay my respects. This is the educational portion of the program. Cole, who gave us the cordoned off, says, P.S., keep hitting that squish mitten. Kind of like that. And Blake, who did the respects one, also adds a Rosanne Bar submission. Sunny Dykes. No. Denied.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Why? It doesn't look like a Roseanne. Man, I think there's something. There's definitely something to that. He's got a face that just kind of juts out at you. And he also always looks upset. A couple more tough seasons away from four. Damn, reps are not calling it fair.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Boy, a couple more? I don't know how many more. Speaking of college football, we did the segment recently on a big mess in Texas, The book about the 1952 Dallas Texans interviewed the author. And the fascinating part of the book, I guess why he wrote it, is it doesn't really make sense that pro football failed in Texas. You think about high school football was super popular.
Starting point is 01:09:09 College football was super popular. Twelve, fifteen years later, the cowboys would become very popular. But it failed. And a spoiler, a big part of the reason it failed was because Dallas was still super racist. early 50s, they had Klan Day at the fair, and 70,000 people would get free tickets by wearing Klan gear. So they played at the Cotton Bowl, the Dallas Texans did, and they had some black players, and this didn't work, right? It was a big problem. The white business leaders in Dallas didn't want them there.
Starting point is 01:09:48 They promised to integrate the seating at the Cotton Bowl. Obviously, that didn't happen. Listener Mark emails in. This is one of those that's been right in front of your face the whole time. But he said, loving your conversation with the author, maybe this is obvious to most people. I'm a dummy, but I just had an OMG moment where I realized that it is called the Cotton Bowl. There is no commodity more tinge with racism in the history of the world.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I always thought of it as another antiquated industry that people in the area take pride in, like the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Rose Bowl. but the fact that Jim Crow Dallas decided to name their annual game and the stadium after Cotton is just too on the nose for the city at the time anyways yeah the Dallas whites were sub-tweeting and celebrating racial superiority but I guess they got away with that huh yeah kind of did it is weird I mean they were the reason the Texans failed was because of what took place at the Cotton Bowl and you're like how did this
Starting point is 01:10:52 happen? Well, the building was kind of named as an homage to the slave trade. So maybe we could have seen that one coming. Got a follow up from Harry on the TV show I haven't watched yet called Death by Lightning.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, the James Monroe, right? Who is it? Is it Garfield? Garfield. He says, I second the recommendation to watch this show. It'll appeal to you for the following reason.
Starting point is 01:11:22 One, it's about President Garfield, who is from Ohio. Two, it is only four episodes. I watched it all in one evening, and three, Tom Wamsgams from Succession plays the eventual assassin, and he's fantastic in it. That's a good pitch for me. Yeah, I love Tom Wamsgans. I'd like to see him in something else. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And then he says, most importantly, you have asked several times of the current state of U.S. politics is the craziest it has ever been. In my opinion, the answer is a resounding no. Late 1800s was the most insane political era in this country because the senators were basically the closest thing to rock stars that existed at the time. Because there was no income tax yet, states that controlled the imports, specifically New York, basically controlled all of the federal government's revenue, and they openly bribed, cheated, stole, and scheme to stay in power the show does a fantastic job of showing what dc was like during that time the acting is great punt only when the situation merits from harry yeah i'm interested in it's on my list and i
Starting point is 01:12:35 think that's probably true it's hard to pin down um the craziest time or whatever uh certainly people bring up the duel people bring up political violence i think a big part of the difference is like nobody knew what was going on You know what I mean? Like, especially compared to now, where you go to a gas station out in the middle of nowhere, like we're here, that person has the same news you do. Whereas, like, back then, you know, you might not have known how crazy things were. You just kind of had your life. I got an email from a guy who was asking me for a piece of audio.
Starting point is 01:13:11 He was actually looking for the Give It All Back audio. Give It All Back. Dr. Laura and Fake Line 4 guy after Terry. Shivo's death. And I sent it to him and he was like, hey, yeah, I think I just need it for some stuff I'm putting together for this fantasy
Starting point is 01:13:30 league I'm in. The fantasy league is called the everlasting prison pool. And it looks like, based on the detail of the format that was sent to me, that these are probably lawyers. But here's how
Starting point is 01:13:46 it works. The majority pot, there's a draft, is awarded to the first manager whose roster player is actually sentenced to prison, and the secondary pot awarded to the manager with the most accumulated points the moment
Starting point is 01:14:01 that pot is won. So here's how this works. Each team drafts seven current NBA or NFL players and one wild card player, you get a roster size of eight. And the point system, tier one, you get five points for minor
Starting point is 01:14:17 infractions, like a team fine, league fine benching for conduct detrimental to the team tier two is medium level things like arrested or cited for small crimes unexpected sudden released by the team due to misconduct civil lawsuit we keep going up to gambling scandals tier four serious infractions assault battery sex crimes and then tier five player dies oh my If any rostered NBA or NFL players sentenced to prison time, their owner is declared the winner. So in that moment, if you've got somebody who gets an actual prison sentence, the league is over. That's difficult to do within one year, though.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Yeah, I don't... You're not going to get busted for something right now. Does it have to be within each season they do this? Or do they drafted it lasts for five years? I think they have, they're having like a transfer period throughout the year. where they can do like swaps on their roster but I guess it's basically a keeper league okay good
Starting point is 01:15:24 because that would be tough just to say I'm drafting this guy and hopefully he'll not only get in trouble this year but then go to prison the same year right in prison you know that's the ultimate probably you're just dealing with charges suspensions fines news stories
Starting point is 01:15:41 like I wonder if you keep them like even when they're retired because that'll happen sometimes sure yeah especially if they you know we're a hot head as a player Maybe you've got a guy coming into the league early and you spot some young talent. You think that guy's probably... But it would be up to you.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Like, do I want to release Richie Incognito right now? Or do I just keep him on the roster even though he's not in the way? Ride the assay. Yeah. That was from Sean, the everlasting prison pool. Got a really long email from a listener who seems to identify as black. His name is Brian. And a lot of it's about Nico.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Yeah. Nico and Luca. And like I said, it's really long, so I don't think I have to, I can't even read all of this. He does say within this, and he's just talking about, because I think we did bring up, you know, is there some kind of a racial component here as well with Nico and Luca? He says, forgive me, I know I'm treading lightly here, but there's zero chance that a black star player's petulance would be as forgivable. The pouting, the technicals, giving up and fouling out in an NBA finals game, those things would be criticized much more harshly by some
Starting point is 01:16:57 and less likely so by the NICO is a scapegoat contingent. Luca for all his positives, and we're talking about a guy who absolutely ends up as a top 10 player ever. So maybe there's a level of who gives an F here. He was a lot to deal with from an optics perspective. So that's one threat of this that I wanted to throw out there. Yeah, and that's probably a blind spot for me. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I don't think I just, I see it that way, but I don't see it that way. This guy does because he sees it from a different perspective where he's probably seen a young black player get put in his place for acting this way or that way more. I mean, we definitely, I never really was critical of Lucas bullshit. And I knew it was there. and I had quickly just been like, yeah, that's part of the dinner. Doesn't mean it was good, though. So maybe there is a feeling that, you know, this never came up with Dirk,
Starting point is 01:17:54 where you're like, you're giving a white player a pass that you wouldn't give a black player. But with Luca, maybe it was a thing. Yeah, and some of what you love about Luca. And if you were a black guy, you probably would feel that way. Yeah, I wonder. It's just because I think Luca's so unique. Like Tim Duncan used to cry and everything, and we hated Tim Duncan, but he wasn't here. He wasn't ours.
Starting point is 01:18:15 You know? Right. And maybe he wasn't getting his team in that much trouble either. It's just that Luca, his crying and stuff, is kind of like to the level of who's like the Trailblazer that was always getting tease and then- Rashid Wallace? Yeah, like it's at that level, yet he's also a player that's like Magic Johnson.
Starting point is 01:18:39 So we've never seen that before, right? like that he's actually really good too and he's also the biggest whiner on the court because that actually really good part like winning all those games and just being the reason that everything happens does go a long way and then he says finally the part I want to focus on
Starting point is 01:19:03 and the part many of my black peers are focusing on is that Nico has gotten a lot of smoke for the same kind of shit Jerry's been doing for decades and he says, is there anything Jerry could do that would elicit this much I'm done with this team type of apathy from you guys or the fans as a whole? They double down on the dumb-ass Micah trade.
Starting point is 01:19:28 They paid Bland, who was only good because they already had two guys because they had Micah. Then they tripled down on it by overpaying Quinn and Williams when they already have two guys at the same position, making $20 million, effed up the DAC negotiations twice, stuffed up the CD negotiations.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Everything with Zeke. He's 100% going to bungle the pickin situation. I get it that Luca is the level of talent the Cowboys don't have, but he's also playing a sport that will never be as popular. My point here is that for people who want to talk about the racial component, looking at the contrast from how Nico is treated to the, ha, look at this old guy treatment that we give Jerry is interesting. Yeah, I think that's a fair point.
Starting point is 01:20:09 But I think the outlier is not Nico. it's Jerry. Jerry is the outlier that we both constantly criticize and probably don't criticize enough because it's immovable. There's no change that can happen, right? He owns the team. He said he's never going to let anybody else make the choices.
Starting point is 01:20:29 He can't be removed. Whereas I think Nico is being treated exactly like any other GM in a normal circumstance, black or white. Like I think if it were Dennis Lindsay, I think if it were, you know, Terry Fontno, the Falcons GM, black guy, it wouldn't matter. I think the unique one there is Jerry. See, I wonder, though, it's just hard to compare the sports
Starting point is 01:20:54 and how much one player can mean to a sport and then how much that one player even was so much better than all the other players. Like, it would kind of be like if you had Mahomes and he had maybe not yet won anything but then traded Mahomes when he said he wanted to build his forever home here? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:16 But also the reason people were mad and the reason that there is the giving credence to the racial component of it is because it was personal. And now that's when you may bring up like Micah and Jerry because that was personal. But Micah was only able to get personal because it was Micah, not Dak.
Starting point is 01:21:36 I mean, Jerry straight up said that. Like, I have a pretty good idea which one of these guys I need to make sure I stay on the same page with more. It's that one. And that's what he did. So that's where people start to think in terms of the racial element of it is because it was personal. And he made it personal. So I think he's being treated the same as anybody else. It's Jerry that's being treated differently.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I have one more that's... He's kind of a one of one. This is one more, but it's a little confusing to me. because it's signed by a lady by the way can I read that guy's tag because you didn't I thought it was really good sure
Starting point is 01:22:15 he's going through the whole thing and he just said which the fact that we looking at the contrast from how Nico is treated to the ha ha look at this old guy treatment we give Jerry is interesting which to sum it up
Starting point is 01:22:28 is probably progress in and of itself perhaps MLK died for a world where black guys get to ruin our favorite teams too that's the dream yeah it's great all right sorry see what happens when we give all that power to a black guy yeah let women vote of course jerry's done it too so i guess that yeah women what are they doing how the colts have been playing hell yeah um all right i actually have two more i have one more two okay one is uh that brandon nimmo will love being here yeah no gay pride night he was uh i guess
Starting point is 01:23:15 he wouldn't wear a b lm shirt which back in the day uh he's a baseball player a lot of anti-mask stuff uh but he says this guy ian who says there's also an unsubstantiated report that he requests is a trade right after Mamdani won the Mario race. I would like to believe that. I would like to believe that. And also that Marcus Simeon is just down for the cause.
Starting point is 01:23:42 He's one of the boys and was like, if I could get up there, you got to get me up there after Momtani's win. Yeah, that's true. And this one is a little confusing because it appears to be from a lady named Daisy. And her subject line is, did I miss out on a threesome? Hey now
Starting point is 01:24:03 Everybody around here is like Oh wait Now I'll pay attention to show She said I have a question for you After my divorce I kept in touch with one of my next door neighbors For a while I had always enjoyed hanging out with them
Starting point is 01:24:16 Our kids liked each other Just great neighbors The wife and I So I think she's talking about The wife of the other late family Right the neighbor wife Had birthdays close together Many times we experienced
Starting point is 01:24:31 small gifts. On my next birthday, following my divorce, she dropped off a gift. It was a bottle of something called menagerie-tois red wine. Hey, no. Yeah. I noticed the label, but I didn't give it much thought. Not a big wine drinker, but I tended to enjoy it at some point. Now it's years later.
Starting point is 01:24:52 I've moved twice, and I looked at the bottle recently, and I thought, huh, were they trying to tell me something? my neighbors why else would you gift that yeah we've kind of lost touch so a missed opportunity perhaps but mostly I want to know whether or not this is a code
Starting point is 01:25:10 that's from Daisy maybe after she heard us talking about the pineapple she fumbled she fumbled the menage she fumbled the eye full I think one thing that's interesting to me about people who live let's say alternative lifestyles or have alternative interest
Starting point is 01:25:26 they all have to do little codes because they can't just come out and say like, listen, brass tacks My wife and I would like to have sex with you That's very forward And it's going to be weird if you say no now So instead we have to come up with little Signals and codes
Starting point is 01:25:43 So that if you're not interested You can kind of just act like you didn't see it Well, it's just wine Right. Yeah, it's just wine It's a common thing we were friends For a long time And you know, on her end
Starting point is 01:25:55 That's where the real question is Does she pursue it? Like, let's say she was interested. Because then, like, you're in a situation where you tell these people, hey, what was that what I thought it was? And they're like, you sick, fuck, our kids play together. Right. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:26:12 You deviant. You're lucky I don't let the PTA know. And that's where the, uh, that's where these things break down, I think. Yeah, I would think people don't usually do that. Do what follow up on it? No, I'd like to hear a story. from somebody who, oh yeah, my neighbor thought I was giving them a code
Starting point is 01:26:32 and I told them they were way off because it feels like if there's a code it's probably, you're probably on the same wavelength. If you got something called menagerie twa wine, that probably meant they wanted to do some stuff. I have one from our good buddy Jameson who turned
Starting point is 01:26:50 me on to a scheme that I was not aware of that I've been utilizing recently because DoorDash will discount a lot of food at various places to get you on the delivery fees. Go on. Am I late to this? It's not that you're late to it. I don't know if I was early to it, but I heard Jameson talking about this a couple months ago,
Starting point is 01:27:16 like he had figured out how to write code or something. He discovered fire. And I'm like, dude, I've always done this. Okay, well, I was new to it. and you can search by deals in a lot of places by my house or run a deal like you know hey half off on this 25% off on this and when you go to do the delivery you know that that's where they get you then it ends up being more expensive than how do you just gone and got it although they have a go and get it option so I'm getting at least 25% off every time I go out to eat because I'm choosing the deals and just picking up the food myself it's a it's a it's a it's a half the price of getting it delivered sometimes even without a deal because the tip plus the delivery fee convenience fee whatever i was talking about this during the stream the other day uh there's a burger place by my house that does buy one get one free burgers if you pick
Starting point is 01:28:08 them up and i yeah you do you take the bread off now you got a double deck and i've been doing it a lot yeah uh because it's like nine dollars for two burgers there's if you just fire up the app and hit pickup a whole new world of deals appear for you a whole new world yeah So I wanted to share that with the audience. Thank you, Jameson. It has changed the way that I pick where I eat now. You don't have to worry about getting shot. Nope.
Starting point is 01:28:36 People being, delivery drivers then. I know they snack fries on the way over. No more. All right. There's viewer mail for the week. Let's take a break. The dungza. Oh, there it is, Max.
Starting point is 01:28:54 There it is. I can't believe it's finally arrived. Oh my God. Thundergun Express, the unrated director's cut. 13 extra minutes of movie in this one. And it's unrated. They were not able to rate it. This is going to be the best Thanksgiving ever.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Oh, yeah, absolutely. Man, Thundergun, Huggies, and four extra seconds dedicated solely to the don't shot, buddy. That's what I'm thankful for. So much better than a traditional Thanksgiving. Yeah, dude. I hate Thanksgiving. What is that?
Starting point is 01:29:17 What am I supposed to be thankful for exactly? You know, who am I meant to be thanking, right? I know. I've had to scratch and claw for everything I've got. If anything, I should be thanking myself. You're listening to The Dumbzone. We've got a new sponsor. Harry's Razors, man.
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Starting point is 01:31:26 No. Oh, okay. It is now. This is a fun one that I saw WFA last night. Everyone's Christmas decorations are up unless they're just fully establishing the run. But definitely. I'm ready to hit that switch. Where they had boundaries.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Midnight tomorrow. After Thanksgiving. Definitely in the commercial space. We went to Carol of Lights in downtown Grapevine Monday night. Which is basically where they flipped the switch. Is William D. Tate still there? Like he never left. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Always. Always right there. Like how old is he? I thought he was like 70 when I was doing the. I did the tree lighting one year with him there. He's in his 80s, but he still does the whole bit. Looking good? Looks fine.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Does the now a few years ago. It's a name, a road named after him. He's been mayor forever. Yep. Yeah. it's a smooth move it's awesome he uh
Starting point is 01:32:26 a few years ago I was there and they had a technical difficulty issue where you know they tried to start playing the message that they had pre-recorded and then somebody panicked and it was like it's not playing
Starting point is 01:32:39 and then they hit it a few more times and it clearly was playing like seven quick time files at once and it was the mayor talking about Christmas and grapevine but they couldn't get it stopped I say all that to say the other night was kind of boring
Starting point is 01:32:52 just because I didn't witness a massive technical meltdown, but they've got all their stuff out, Sundance Square over in Fort Worth. They do a big one over there. And there was a story on WFA last night about how security cameras had caught a woman stealing an ornament from the tree in Sundance Square at about 1 o'clock in the morning over the weekend. And there's like a getaway job. driver like the lady takes it runs over to a car all right well she was drunk they're in the car well when i saw this story last night they uh cynthia was just announcing like hey they don't
Starting point is 01:33:36 want to press charges just bring back the ornament like it was man on fire or something like this is a kidnapping do they have video though yeah did you see it yeah i've seen the video they showed on w f a um and they made a story out of it i mean even the the story the story the Brazen theft has left visitors and long-time residents stunned and disappointed. Is this a Grinch-type situation? Are we feeling like she doesn't even like Christmas? There's no update on the details other than the only update is that it was returned. Ah.
Starting point is 01:34:07 This morning. It worked. Yeah. The guilt. Yeah. So they, you know, they went and found the artist. The telltale ornament. The artist who had made the ornament and said that it was an ode to her Mexican heritage.
Starting point is 01:34:19 She's a sad song on camera. Oh. And then, you know, I guess they got it back today. It was returned to the Sundance Square Christmas tree early this morning. You know the telltale heart, Blake? Know what that is? Yeah. Po?
Starting point is 01:34:39 Po. I don't think I know. You don't know the telltale heart, huh? Poem. Yeah, the heart beating under the floor. It wasn't there. It was just his conscience. Like they walled him in or something?
Starting point is 01:34:54 They wall them in or they floored him in? Who? Yeah. Like some guy buried him? Yeah, yeah. Cemented him. Like that lady in Thailand? More like who was the Luke Perry when he was in Oz.
Starting point is 01:35:10 And they cemented him behind a wall. Oh, yeah. Did you ever see that? That rings a bell now, but whatever this poem is you guys are talking about. How does Blake know a poem? Edgar Allan Poe, it's really famous. I thought I was real cool in high school when I started reading Edgar Allan Poe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Not knowing I was just a dufus. No, you can get a certain caliber a lady like that. You hoped you can. Oh, for sure. Like I had a buddy who had a bunch of playwriting classes and stuff. Like books on his shelf in college. Oh, that's a good one. But he wasn't really into it at all.
Starting point is 01:35:46 But he thought that that would be cool. And he claimed it worked. Yeah, I was never really that into. I was never really that into roller derby, but I certainly, I certainly attended a handful of matches. I had like all-time NFL records and the big book of baseball. Yeah, you were not swinging for the right fences. Another thing that you'll see on the news around this time, in addition to, hey, the roads are going to be crowded. There's going to be a lot of travel problems at the airport.
Starting point is 01:36:16 It's to remind people not to put grease in their sink or down their drain. what will it do like stop it up yeah i guess right especially if you're frying a turkey but of course that's why we hear that this is one of the worst or best days for a plumber still use a plumber out there folks what do you mean advertiser yeah we need someone who's like DFW-wide. Yeah. This is a wild story that does not come to us from one of our northern suburbs and hear the height of the high school play playoffs in Texas.
Starting point is 01:36:59 This one's from Virginia. There's a man named Travis Turner. He's 46 years old and he is the head coach of an undefeated team playing in the playoffs this weekend. Well, he is on the run. Is he on the run because he's nervous about the beach? big game or because he just needs a little more time to crack that 335 defense chappie no he's on the run because he uh they've got warrants for five counts of child pornography for the old
Starting point is 01:37:31 ball coach is this happening more or did salina just bring all of this to light copycats i feel like we do a story every other day how about going on the run though that I try to only do these stories if there is some level of different angle to it. Like just teacher, student sex doesn't really do it anymore. But the fact that the Salina dude, his dad was, you know, Coach Kilmer, basically. That made that different. And then this one, yeah, the guy took off. I think child porn is on the run worthy.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Like, yeah, you better get on the run, bro. That's a good list. The on the run the list? On the run list? On the run worthy. Like, this is where you can't stay. You can't, like, you'll get past this one. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:38:27 Well, that's the thing. Does anyone ever go on the run and then get away? Like, especially this guy. Yeah, I don't know. They say. That one guy made it for a while until he went to his grandma's house. The Coffin County or wherever he was, the Trevor. Wasn't that escape criminal?
Starting point is 01:38:47 Or escape prisoner or no? He had cut off his ankle monitor the morning of his trial, but he was out on bond at the time that he escaped. The New Orleans. They made it for quite some time. Yeah, those monkeys, the monkeys made it out in Mississippi for quite some time. The cobra is still on the loose out. There we go.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Grand Prairie Coke. What did he do? Ethan Couch is sort of. He was on the run in Mexico for a while. They say that this coach is like a big deal in this part of the state. Like he's a, he played, he's a, man. I don't want to throw Todd Dodge into this, but he's a guy who's a legend, you know, in the state.
Starting point is 01:39:23 They're using drones, dogs, all of it. But at last check, they haven't found him. The thing is, could you live off the land? Could you? No. No, but, I mean, I think that's one of those questions where it's always like, you know, could you kill another human being? well you know if asked to do it right now no if you were with your child and someone was threatening them
Starting point is 01:39:51 you'd figure it out right so your ability to live off the land i feel like necessity and that's the thing that those shows can't even really replicate is death yeah you will be dying if you don't and if you say i think at that point you can maybe figure it out a little bit more but you're eating bark you're eating whatever you have but regarding my like technical capabilities no i mean i referenced earlier my grandparents had a farm in a situation like this out here where we are in Graham today and I had by the time I was a teenager
Starting point is 01:40:23 probably 25 cousins because my mom had there were eight of them and they were Catholic so of those 25 I was the oldest and definitely viewed as the biggest pussy and even Joe it was because we lived in the suburbs
Starting point is 01:40:40 you know so we were just like I want you to go play your Nintendo, you homos. And I'm not kidding. They looked down on us because it was like they knew how to do outside stuff. And I was just doing taxes. This would be another situation where they would have the better of you, right? Living on the lamb on the case, the child porno popped up, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Like I couldn't take the digital detox. Was it like 24 hours or something? Or what's the... I'm just saying you'd be on the run. You can't take your stuff. Oh, you think that would be? your biggest worry. Yeah, that's what I'm really worried about.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I wonder if any, I wonder if Kimmel had any funny bits last time. But again, as with all these stories, be it Salina or whatever, or even like the Baylor AD, I just wish I could be a student or a player involved in the mix at this time. Like, you think you're listening to any of your other coaches this week? Like, how many of you guys knew about this? does this fantasy of yours go to like do you wish you were at columbine but not one of the people they got killed like all that you could have gotten away with the next year that year they probably gave everybody a's i don't think i've ever thought about it in those
Starting point is 01:42:01 terms but yeah that's the same strain of thought is that when you were a kid especially when you were a teenager and i know as a teenage boy i could sniff when the adults were losing the plot And I could tell when they were in over their heads or they were trying to act like they knew what was going on, and we would exploit that. Any substitute teacher. That's all it is, right? Any substitute teacher. But if your school ends up in the news, you make basically the early version of memes about that, and you make sure that they, you know, find purchase in the hallways. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:40 That's really all you wanted to do. Let's see. What was my other one that I definitely... Oh, you know what? Since we're not going to have time to get to this anywhere else today, I want to talk about U&T's head coach. Why? What's happening?
Starting point is 01:42:55 I saw a headline that said, Garrett might be interested in that job. Yeah. That's fake. Is that job open? Eric Morris has taken the Oklahoma State job. Oh, wow. As U.N.T. is in their playoff push.
Starting point is 01:43:10 And... people have different reactions to this, right? Like, is this shitty of him to announce now? Leaving the program high and dry and their first time they've been ranked in the top 25 and 60 years. They're probably going to the college football playoffs. He's staying through the season. He's staying through the season.
Starting point is 01:43:30 And that's a weird bit. It's a weird bit. Do you want them to stay through the season? Yes. Then just leave? As a fan, yeah, but I mean. It's not just a meaningless bowl game. Then you'd be like, just go.
Starting point is 01:43:45 But again, it's the Sun Bowl. Is his contract running out? No. No. That's the thing. And I know, obviously, I want people to be able to stick it to the man. But it does seem like weird that you just don't have to even think about honoring your, what's the point of signing a contract? It's very one-sided, which is on the side of labor, so I should be happy.
Starting point is 01:44:10 about that. Yeah. But. Because I've heard the argument. I was listening to some people talk about this. And it's an interesting one, especially with the backdrop of what's happening with Lane Kiffin. Like, everybody's destroying Lane Kiffin.
Starting point is 01:44:23 And I think part of the reason for that is he seems to enjoy all this. Like, he's, you know, hamming it up and turning it into the Lane Kiffin circus. Whereas Eric Morris isn't necessarily doing that. But the whole thing is that the players. can move now and the coaches would say well what loyalty do I owe you the first time I lose three games
Starting point is 01:44:48 in a row everybody's going to turn on me to which I would say yeah but if they turn on you they have to pay you like $40 million to be turned on yeah so that's the part where it's truly insane the level of freedom these coaches have
Starting point is 01:45:03 I think the part that I find funny is that people are doing like the woe is me this is just life as a group of five team this sucks you get something
Starting point is 01:45:15 and they take it away from you if you think about it this is a byproduct of letting the group of five participate in the playoff because that raises the profile of those guys and makes it more likely
Starting point is 01:45:28 that they get scooped up by the bigger schools who know have more money because the playoff's bigger yeah oh we can take UNT to the playoffs what could he do for this team exactly your inclusion
Starting point is 01:45:38 in this season is making it more likely that you get rated. And it's more likely he's going to be successful with a U&T than he is with Oklahoma State. Yeah. Way more likely. However, I saw a lot of U.N.T. people, like, what if he takes the quarterback with him? Because they've got a great story in their quarterback. And maybe he transfers to Oklahoma State.
Starting point is 01:45:59 He's a red shirt freshman. Well, I mean, this dude found Baker Mayfield. like he was the guy who was first like was trying to offer Baker Mayfield at tech he's the guy who found John Mateer he's the guy who revived Chandler Morris his career my point is
Starting point is 01:46:17 who cares if he gets the quarterback he's the guy he's the guy who's taking the one and two stars and making them more so I don't know but I do think it's an interesting spot for you and T fans just because they seem kind of beaten in general and they finally get a cool
Starting point is 01:46:35 thing and now everybody's bummed about it but that's how the only way this is possible but but yes but I think before it sucked even more because that's how it was for them and they couldn't get its seat at the table now it sucks for them but you're probably going to get to play Ohio State in front of a lot of people you know what I mean they've included them and now it makes it more likely that they get rated I'll say this I'm not as close to the program as I was when I worked there but I do know that when Seth LaTrell almost had North Texas ranked in like 2017 or 18, he got an offer from Kansas State to go coach up there whenever Bill Snyder was gone. And it wasn't perfect.
Starting point is 01:47:16 There was something about he couldn't pick his staff or something so he didn't take the job. And then North Texas sucked after that. And so that was his really only shot to get one of those dream jobs and he turned it down. And there's probably not a day he doesn't kick himself over not taking it, even though it wasn't perfect. So regardless, this guy gets to. coach in the group or power five i don't think you can turn that down and yeah you can do woe is me it's your budget your school can't compete monetarily with the others and you've known that forever
Starting point is 01:47:45 so it's just kind of where you are you're just a leapfrog school and you're going to have to get used to it yeah and i mean he's going to get probably five million as opposed to one and a half or two and he's going to get to pick from way better recruits and have a better sustained success It's a no-brainer. Who is telling Eric Morse not to take that job? I don't know. I just see the stodgy old columnist doing the... Not like this, though.
Starting point is 01:48:15 But who's done that? Yeah, you're kind of hoping for something that doesn't exist. Gary Patterson, I guess, in a way? Yeah. But I don't know. You're asking for a little much there. This is an interesting one that you probably haven't thought about in quite some time. but do you guys remember PPP loans?
Starting point is 01:48:38 COVID thing, right? For fraud. Well, that's why I'm doing the stories. There was a lady who was a TV anchor, a regular TV anchor, 42-year-old Stephanie Hockridge. There you go, Dan. Go right.
Starting point is 01:48:52 What are you saying? I'm glad you guys got to see that in person out here in Graham, the lean forward. Watch how much quicker that lean is than ending the news. But 42-year-old Stephanie Hawking of Arizona, who does look like she's on TV in Arizona.
Starting point is 01:49:08 That's funny. Dan's got her over there. She is going to prison for 10 years. Oh, no. Stephanie. That's federal, so I think that means you do the whole bid slash bit. But you're playing golf and stuff? No, not all federal is playing golf, but by any means.
Starting point is 01:49:33 know, like where Theranos lady and... She shouldn't be in prison. Theranos and GMAX are... That's probably where she's headed. Her mugshot's pretty funny when she's not all dolled up from TV makeup. Oh, no, I haven't seen that yet. She is also ordered to pay $63 million in restitution. She was running a straight-up middleman service to try to get people their PPP
Starting point is 01:50:02 money. She called it VIPPP. There we go. That's the TV background. Give you a little tiered system. Let me see the mic shot. I messed up. Oh. They put her next to Jislane Maxwell for some reason.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Okay. Yeah, this case was tried in the Northern District of Texas. These defendants exploited a national crisis to enrich themselves in this multi-million dollar taxpayer-funded fraud scheme. And you know she was using that. TV Sheen. Oh, yeah. You know me.
Starting point is 01:50:36 I trust her. That's Stephanie Hockridge at 9. You've trusted me for years. Ten years, man. And I'm hot. Ten years, so then she'll be 50 when she gets out? Yeah, early 50s. And you know...
Starting point is 01:50:51 I'm waiting there. I got a little heart-shaped box of chocolates. Got my suit. My hair slick back. Phoenix News 9 Windbreaker on. Licking. that you bought. Yeah, I lick my finger and get my eyebrow, kind of straight.
Starting point is 01:51:08 You know, we talk about this with, you know, with cold case murders and things like that. That's much more serious, but. Who, disgraced X News and anchor. Go ahead, sir. Only in journalism. Yeah. You know there are a lot of people right now who are living right today, but they're going day to day in life. I really hope they don't follow up on those PPP loans
Starting point is 01:51:35 or whatever I did with those, you know? There's got to be people who in a time of need got a little fast and loose with the fraud part of that. Yeah, it's just the government. And they're just hoping they don't come calling. It's the government, right? Not only was it the government, it was the effing wild west. It was COVID.
Starting point is 01:51:54 It was Bonanza times. What do you think of this picture over? You know, I'd rather the lady who does the news not be posting with motor cycles and Daisy Dukes and a crop top on, you know. What do you think of pigtails? Do you think that, how do you pronounce it, infantilize, infantilizing? Isn't that what a 40-year-old with pigtails does? Yeah, it's not, you don't want to think too hard about. Did she think she got away with it?
Starting point is 01:52:31 I don't think you want to let... Yeah. There's almost no doubt. Five years ago? Yeah. And she's her living high. You're probably not dealing with a whole lot of consequences, you know, overall. And her whole life, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:48 And now this comes home. I'm also interested in the, like, how you have to pay... How are you going to pay back $62 million in restitution? Well, you could have cash. There's cash. There's grass. All right. That's good.
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Starting point is 01:53:57 At 214, 817, 33333. 33. I don't have a jingle for them. Oh. Well, we have this. Happy birthday. Thank you. I don't think there's a ton. Let me see if I can get any rolled in.
Starting point is 01:54:17 No, we just got one today. From Sarah, who said, Dan, it is my husband, Todd Crumman. Holz's 45th birthday on 1127. Yes, he was born on Thanksgiving, and this year it falls on the date. Good dude. He is a subby and big
Starting point is 01:54:36 supporter of y'all's show, including his annual visits with Charles to your Game Day men's health studio. He says he will also see y'all at Kane and Ables Friday before the Horn's big win.
Starting point is 01:54:53 She then says, Happy Thanksgiving, Sarah. You met Sarah when we were taking a picture with Vince Young. Oh, really? Was she over there? Yeah, because Todd was corraling Vince Young that day. And he's also the way we got to Canaan Ables. And yeah, he's the way we get Charles Haley.
Starting point is 01:55:12 You just meet these people who just know people. We don't know anybody. I know Vince Young now. It's a good point. He was excited to see us. V.Y. I call him. All right, well, that's that for that.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Now we move to this. Game Day Men's Health presents on this day in history. And we have mentioned the studio, but Game Day Men's Health, gameday.com. I actually got myself a nice little vitamin B boost before the holiday season, this little week. get you through the big weekend, you know? For sure.
Starting point is 01:55:56 But if you want to get in on a testosterone replacement therapy, 10% off if you just mention the dumb zone. And if you go to a certain one of them in Austin, one of them is owned by one of the guys who owns one of the locations up here. And I got a buddy in Austin who said he just stopped in the game day and they gave them the 10% off. So I don't know, just give it a shot.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Why not? It's certainly DFW, but I don't know. I'll be there today. You want to pay more money? I hope you get through the holidays. Oh, you're going today? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:56:31 So this is some today in history. Is Easton going to join us at any time? Is that just closing remarks? You want to join us now, too? What's your bit? Easton Wolf, ladies. His bit is being valedictorian. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Yeah. Some time ago, gentlemen. Do you show up at college and tell everyone that, like you're a five-star? That'd be cool. He's his girlfriend, Vianthe is saying, yes. I feel like it would be even weirder if I'd do that since I'm not in college anymore. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:02 I graduated. And Jake, dumbass. Being in the real world and stuff. Today is Wednesday, November 26. On this day in 1716, a lion is tamed and put on exhibition for the first time in the U.S. by Captain Arthur Savage. If anybody's going to tame a lion. Yeah, that's a fun one.
Starting point is 01:57:25 It is Captain Arthur Savage. He did this at his house in Boston. Where'd they get the lion? That's the thing. Not in Boston. No. Boy, that's a great story. On this day in 1789,
Starting point is 01:57:42 they called it a day of Thanksgiving set aside by President Washington, Pat. to observe the adoption of the Constitution of the United States the first national celebration of Thanksgiving this day 1789 so like the the pilgrims had their first Thanksgiving but we had a dark age I guess no Thanksgiving like we weren't thankful it's 13 years I'm here a little background noise you guys yeah that's me That is me. On this day in, excuse me, 1864. This would probably be about slaves.
Starting point is 01:58:26 English mathematician and writer Charles Dodgson presented a handwritten and illustrated manuscript called Alice's Adventures Underground to his friend, Alice Pleasance Liddell. The book would later turn into Alice's Adventures in Wonderland Allison Wonderland Possibly one of my five most hated text of all time He published this under his pen name Louis Carroll
Starting point is 01:58:55 Go on Jake I feel like the reason we have to deal with What's the scary guy's name Tim Burton is because of Alice in Wonderland And I reject the entire Tim Burton Catalog framework I don't yeah I don't like it Alice in Wonderland is too trippy I deal with the real
Starting point is 01:59:21 It's very trippy So here's another thing I got into I hate to say I went down a A little rabbit hole This morning on this one But because just the way this is written It's a writer Charles Dodson
Starting point is 01:59:38 Presented a handwritten manuscript To his 12 year old friend Alice blah blah Just thought Huh I just hanging out So I went went to look up when, how old was this guy, when was he born?
Starting point is 01:59:52 He was 32 years old at this time. Oh, my God. And in this hole, the rabbits also might dive into and come out of, just seeing there were later life, you know, like modern day allegations of, hey, was this guy Pito? Let's take a look at his history. Okay, he did that, but you know what? For the time, they said it was very popular.
Starting point is 02:00:28 This is the 1800s. People would photograph children naked a lot. Oh, God, no. Like they said, it was even available. You could get a Christmas card with a little, you know, an eight-year-old that was naked on your Christmas card. No, no point. But apparently he did.
Starting point is 02:00:46 No, I'm telling you the truth. It did kind of say, like, at the time, this is a more, and I do think, if you think about it at the time and just think of time, all time, it didn't used to be called being a pito. It was probably called, oh, you're attracted to this. She's just about ready to flower here. Right? Yeah. It's not wrong that you're attracted to this 12-year-old. I'm saying in the mid-1800s, they would not have said, hey, that's really.
Starting point is 02:01:16 weird for this 32-year-old to be infatuated with this 12 And I do think maybe at the time there was a thing where it's okay to take nude pictures of 10-year-olds because it's beautiful. Beyond wild that that has occurred in the last 200 years, but you are probably correct.
Starting point is 02:01:34 I mean, it sounds like you're definitely correct. And in fact, they were so not turned off by it. When they're like, hey, did that black guy look at it? Kill him! Yes, we all agree that he should be killed because he looked at her. But the, yeah, I don't know. Okay, so it's definitely not pedophilia,
Starting point is 02:01:53 but is there something before, hey, let's publish all of the stories he wrote her and make them like a huge piece of culture? Like, do we have to celebrate it? Because that's what he was doing, right? He was writing her stories probably for her affection. It's all speculation. Except the part she was 12 doesn't seem that speculative.
Starting point is 02:02:14 No, no, no. And this is the day he gave her the stories. On this day in 2010, Willie Nelson arrested in Texas for possession of marijuana. Oh, he smokes? It was up by the border, I think. I think marijuana makes you age well, or it's a longevity drug, right? Isn't he like 118 years old right now? At least, yeah, he's very old, still performing. You say on the border, Sierra Blanca.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Yeah. Yeah, I think it was out. They have, I remember learning about this in my 20s, but there's a portion of the border where they can just stop you, and it's not on the border. It's a good hour and a half, two hours in. There's a corridor where you can just be stopped. Well, he had six ounces of marijuana, which is quite a bit.
Starting point is 02:03:03 Man, for Willie, though, and a bus full of people traveling, it's not as much as I would have thought. It's not dealing. It was for him. It was definitely for him, but... It's a lot for him. Like, if you were caught with an ounce, I'd say that was a lot.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Yes, correct. And so today is the 26th of November, this day in Dumb Zone history. I haven't done a lot of shows just because of its proximity to Thanksgiving, but we did one in 2021. And I'm just going to read you the first section. It says, Mike Reiner in for Jake, EA in for Mino, Jonathan Dodd, in for DJ. And then the next one, it just says phone call Friday.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Was it me, you and Mike? Yeah. Yeah, you guys tried to do like the two-minute drill, right? I don't know if that was this day, but we did try that. I just thought that was fine. Just looking around. Why don't we go to the phones? Elsewhere.
Starting point is 02:04:10 So now we have today's birthdays. Famous people. Malik Davis is 27. Good run the other night. Current cowboy. Cowell Raleigh, 29. Big dumper. 60 home runs.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Did not win the MVP. Did not win the MVP. And probably rightfully so. Judge's numbers were insane. I know, but... It's a catcher. He's a big... It's cooler.
Starting point is 02:04:37 It is so cool. It is so cool. He had 60 bombs. Matt Garza is 42. He got in a fight at a youth baseball game recently. Around here? He's former Ranger, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Rangers traded for him. Yeah, it was one of those. Is that CJ Edwards? Former Brewer's pitcher ejected from his kids' 9-U game. It looks like it was maybe in Minnesota. Harry Carson is 72. We've recently mentioned Harry Carson, but I didn't mention. his name. He was a Giants linebacker along with Lawrence Taylor, and he was up for the Hall of Fame
Starting point is 02:05:19 like six times in a row and didn't get it, and then started openly criticizing the process and said, even if he was offered the Hall of Fame now, I do not believe in it, and I wish my name to be withdrawn from this. I would not accept going into the Hall of Fame. I'm above it. So his little ruse apparently worked, because the next year he was voted into the Hall of Fame and he accepted the gold jacket and he gave a speech and all that kind of stuff. That was in 2006. Nothing I love more than a transparent about face. Yeah, but that was then. It was last year. Sean Kemp is 56. Does Sean Kemp have a Kemp spin? I mean, it doesn't, I don't even think you have. Yeah, it's just his entire existence,
Starting point is 02:06:07 his mini-sired offspring. He was a wild man. I loved him. though young dan was very happy when he heard that the calves were trading for shan kemp just because you know he was a name he was kind of awesome he was a name dunked a lot but yeah it turned out that by the time they get to cleveland you don't really want to be on the sean kemp ride there might have been a reason and then you know i don't know that he was as excited as young dan was no like about going to cleveland like i'm excited because i'm in cleveland i can't leave so you're sending somebody cool here but not realizing the guy that's cool
Starting point is 02:06:46 probably doesn't want to go there like he just lived somewhere awesome he just moved from Seattle to Cleveland in the middle of the winter place to see and be seen it is so we've made it pretty far today listening to Luca be like well it's amazing
Starting point is 02:07:02 I live near the ocean I never lived near ocean I have a apartment on beach and it's amazing I didn't hear him say that he would have never found out he wasn't going to go to the beach he wasn't we forced him he didn't know you could live there we forced him to the better market we told him it was too expensive to live there like it would it would hurt if this happened normally normally we'd be like fuck that's see that's why you can't keep a guy here they just want to go to the beach right and he's like well you know
Starting point is 02:07:32 it's nice he's amazing just bums me out man yeah Harold Reynolds is 65 Yeah, he's got a... He had an intern thing. Yeah, I think it was a production assistant or an intern. Matt Carpenter is 40. You know what I remember about him? Do you? No.
Starting point is 02:08:00 He's a carpenter like J.C. Maybe it wasn't Matt Carpenter. I swear it was Carp because there's the leaked audio of... Ron Washington talking to the Rangers in the World Series in the locker room. Do you remember that? And I think it was after they had lost the previous game
Starting point is 02:08:20 and had to come back and play another against the Cardinals. Was Matt Carp maybe pitching? No. Because there's a line in there where he's like, and they're asking me about carp. Mother fuck, Carp. It's just wash in a pregame speech.
Starting point is 02:08:37 And it's like, it's one of the funniest pregame speeches because it's baseball and you never hear that. And they inspired them to win the... No. No. That reminds me, Emily Jones. I remember we had her on the day of Game 7.
Starting point is 02:08:53 They had blown Game 6, didn't they? And she said, everything's great because in the locker room, they're really loose. Everything's been fine, exactly like they were yesterday. And I asked... Well, what happened? That's what I said to her. I'm like, well, why is that better? They ended up losing yesterday
Starting point is 02:09:12 She's like, you're an asshole, Dan I'm like, all right And then they lost So, I don't know Do we blame Emily? Who's right here? I think perhaps blaming Emily is the correct move
Starting point is 02:09:24 It was Chris Carpenter Oh, okay Yeah What does this sound like if I just That makes sense Hold on Turn me off right now I did
Starting point is 02:09:34 Okay now back on Let's see what happens I am I have a pleasure being a part of it and i hope you guys felt the same way you know those two champions out there last night those fucking guys over there are champions too and good champions also they fight for their lives they ended up pulling it off tonight this is what it's about we're going to back out there tonight why they're a champion too and we're a motherfuckin chapsed but we know we can beat those
Starting point is 02:10:02 cocks up they're not some sure about beating us and we just go out there tonight Do what the game asked us to do? You phone with it. Anybody else got anything? Yeah. Oh, okay, anyways. We'll review this at a later time. That he's known these cops who can't beat us.
Starting point is 02:10:26 It's just Kinsler over there. God, that's a fun team. J.C. Horn, 26. Pretty great. Janamichi, 55. Gay. I believe. DJ Khalid is 50.
Starting point is 02:10:43 Don't get it. Never have. Me neither. He's 50 now? Still don't get it. Singer Lil Fizz is 40. Anybody know? Easton?
Starting point is 02:10:54 Anybody? No, I don't. Lil Fizz. It was on my birthday list and I thought, that's a name that needs to be said. He's 40. From my mouth. How? Chris.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Hughes is 42. He is the co-founder. Anybody hear of Chris Hughes? Twitter. Facebook. He's like the, who's the co-founder of broadcast.com with Mark Cuban? It's like the guy you never hear of, he got his billion and just like, you know, I'm just going to do stuff and just kind of lay low. Like MySpace, Tom.
Starting point is 02:11:38 Yeah, Chris Hughes. All right, I'll just have all this money. Won't that be cool? And then Dumb's on birthday of the day. I hope he's still alive. I didn't check because he's 85 today. Mark Margolis. Detective?
Starting point is 02:11:54 He was in Scarface. And he looked 85 then. And then he would later be... Died two years ago. Uncle Tio. Uncle Tio in Breaking Bad. He's not alive, huh? No.
Starting point is 02:12:11 I think I saw how he died. Oh, that's right. The whole bell thing. I forgot. I forgot about the bell thing. Pretty tragic scene, actually. Vince Gilligan wanted that to look as real as possible. How would I not remember that?
Starting point is 02:12:24 That's okay. Born on this day now dead, Mark Margolis. Yep. Bruno Hauptmann. Probably a Nazi. He kidnapped the. The Lindberg baby. Oh.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Interesting. Popular crime. Think about, first of all, the beating of kidnapping. That's got to be a tough one. Yeah. Go on. But now you've got a baby. Yeah, I mean, I think the beating, Easton, is you're stealing something that's alive.
Starting point is 02:12:59 So Easton has, they have started a fire out here. And we were even talking during the break about movie fires and how, you know, it's just not the, it's tough. You got to kind of keep the wood gum. Like, you can't get a movie fire for more than a minute. I want a nice movie baby. That's another thing I got. Or a TV baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:16 Remember the baby in, did you, anybody watch the show Ozark? So they had like a baby that they were taken care of. You never heard that damn thing. They, it just would lay there nicely. There wasn't a, like your whole life revolves around a baby, right? Right. You know, every single thing in the world is about that baby. Like, you're going to eat at.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Got to get the baby to bed. The baby's going nuts. That baby never makes a peep. The perfect baby is a TV baby. TV babies, TV fires. Video wives. Online. And born and a standout dead Charles Schultz.
Starting point is 02:13:56 He drew the Peanuts cartoon. I want to go back to the Lindberg thing. I mean, it's probably there was a... Oh, kidnapping a baby. There was a limited amount of crimes you could do and cash in. So, like, that's probably... You couldn't do like a Nigerian prince email scam, right? You had to put some sweat equity into your crimes.
Starting point is 02:14:15 Yeah. But, man, I don't know. You've got to put a number on getting the baby back to them. You know that they're going to be coming for you way harder than if it's a piece of art. How did this turn out? I don't remember. They found the baby in a shallow grave in the woods. So the guy never got any money for it.
Starting point is 02:14:36 I think he killed it pretty early on. Kind of pretty early on, and it makes sense. Because he didn't get a TV baby. It's a baby. He's like, God, damn, this sucks. Jeez. What do I do? What's he going to carry diapers around?
Starting point is 02:14:51 How's he going to change the baby? Yeah, that's... Formula, yeah. He doesn't have any boobs. It's the 20s. He can't feed the baby. He's giving it carrots. Yeah, he killed the thing immediately.
Starting point is 02:15:02 Back then, they didn't even have family changing rooms. Yeah. So think of the baby. the inconvenience there? Where would I go to the bathroom? No baby Bjorn's. Are there still wet nurses? What's that mean?
Starting point is 02:15:16 I think that just means they wipe you, right? Why does that to be wet, though? What's a wet nurse? I thought I... Oh, they breastfeed for you? It's a woman that never stops producing, and so if your baby doesn't take your tit, really? Put it on her tail.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Because if you always keep one on there, it keeps going. Yes. You don't stop production until you stop breastfeeding. So if you were to keep hypothetically, you could keep your wife anyways. I floated it. What if we just? What if she just kept doing the pump? If she keeps pumping?
Starting point is 02:15:47 I floated it. Can you sell that? Is there a market? Yeah, you can absolutely sell it to bodybuilders. Bodybuilders are big into it. Really? Yeah, let's keep them big. Yeah, plus you keep them big.
Starting point is 02:15:58 Yeah, really, using the whole buffalo is what we're doing here. The audience in the back says there's a great profit. it and she said it pretty breast milk yeah there's got to be for sure it's not cheap either hmm yeah uh dead on this day still dead nurse though i do like the name oh sounds great yeah john macadam he invented asphalt okay thank you when do you think he died so his invention would have had to be in the prime of his life. The 80 years, he was, died at the age of 80. I'm probably, he was alive in 1900.
Starting point is 02:16:45 Barely. I'm going to say 1930. Died in 1836. Wow. So ahead of his time. Yeah. That's why many of the cathedrals in France of that period are constructed entirely out of asphalt. Sure. The Gaelix. And died in 2008 on this day. Edna Parker. I think she was in Oklahoma. For 15 months, she died at the age of
Starting point is 02:17:12 115. And for 15 months, she was the oldest person in the world. Do you think she felt the power of that, or did she have any idea that she was a person in the world? I'm going to vote the latter. What's she look like? She was 115
Starting point is 02:17:30 named Edna living in Oklahoma. She knew. She was still smoking and, like, commenting on the news. Yeah, what's your secret to longevity? Whiskey? Yep. One whiskey a day? I'm yelling at my husband.
Starting point is 02:17:44 I was kind of with it. My husband passed away when I was 35. After our ninth kid. Yeah. Yeah. What do you got on Edna? She looked like she was still kind of with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:00 Born in 1893. Bookmarking that, Blake? Oh, no. All right. And that's what happened on this day in history. Can I force in a very late bad bit? What if we had it brought to us by Underdog Fantasy? Underdog fantasy.
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Starting point is 02:20:36 I think our last bad bit from this podcast. He listens to the gayest stuff. He... What was his last one? The Kim Kardashian show? I never got to play that. I never got to play that. I never got to play that.
Starting point is 02:20:47 So I'm forcing this. And I've been trying for weeks to get my female ref audio in there. And he won't let me do it. He's like, no, I got this stuff. We don't have time for bits. Well, I'm forcing this in because this kind of just hit awful announcing and people are running with it. But anyway, the last time we played a bad bit from this show, it was how they used to fake
Starting point is 02:21:05 halftime reports. They got a lot of heat for that. Yep. Yeah, so much that they lost their jobs. No, there's nothing really changed. So they do their podcast on video. It looks like they're both at home. And it's just the most immaculate houses you could think of.
Starting point is 02:21:23 Aaron Andrews is like in her closet that's bigger than my house. There's just designer clothes everywhere. There's letters on the wall. means you're rich. Boy, does it. Wait, what is this thought? Like, so she has an E up on the wall? No, above her coat rack, it says where.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Where? You're just flashing your money. If you put letters on the wall, you're flashing your money. Okay. See, I thought he meant people who put actual handwritten letters on the wall. Like, that feels like something you see in rich people's houses. We're like, and this one, of course, came to us from, I don't know. Fat like a Mayflower.
Starting point is 02:22:02 Yeah, like you've got a charter of some sort hanging up. So clearly their social media intern or whatever who put out this clip thought, this clip is going to be about how hard Aaron Andrews works. They didn't know how people would take it, people like me, as she's sitting in her multi-million dollar house, she thinks her job is really hard because she misses holidays. This is what one of my first professors said. If you don't want to make $40,000 in your first job, get out.
Starting point is 02:22:29 If you don't want to be told you need a nose job, get out. I'm sorry. If you don't want to be divorced, get out. 40? Yeah, what? Rewind the show about an hour. What world of, yeah. There are TV people in much, in small markets, but even medium markets who start at lower than 40.
Starting point is 02:22:49 But maybe not for air. Get out. If you don't want to be told you need a nose job, get out. If you don't want to be divorced, get out. If you don't want to work holidays, get out. And I don't say it like that. But I say, you got to love what you do because I miss all holidays. I didn't get married until I was in my 40s.
Starting point is 02:23:06 Not that that is going to be your route, but I live out of a suitcase. I miss a lot of stuff. I missed a lot of weddings. I miss a lot of events. You have to love it to get you through the fact I'm not going to be home for Thanksgiving next week. You know, our Christmas is cut short. Again, from your multi-million dollar house where you get to work Super Bowls and all the big events. is your dream job you've made it and you're complaining and like jake said because you're missing a
Starting point is 02:23:34 holiday you're not missing anything you're missing a constructed uh you know you can have a better day the day after thanksgiving you're all of us will have be able to have you can do a simulation the rest of our lives we will never be able to afford a better day than you are able to have tomorrow your life is are you telling me she's not eating thanks or thanksgiving food she absolutely is she's going to eat the nicest food of the stadium get on a private jet to go to her next day she's living out of a suitcase. Yeah, a Louis Vuitton suitcase that costs more than my car. Yeah, but I'm in this hotel room.
Starting point is 02:24:05 The nicest hotel room I've ever probably been in. Yeah, but I'm not super famous yet, and this hotel room doesn't have a hole in the door where someone could spy on me and make me. Make me more famous. That too. No, I don't know. How tone to that are you? I dream of not having to go from this house to that house to that house on this thing.
Starting point is 02:24:27 You know, like, hey, sorry. I guess I have to work. As I'm telling my family, oh, man, I'm sorry that I can't participate in the whatever yachtsy or whatever we're doing here because I got to go watch the cowboy game after we eat because then I got to go drive to Austin tomorrow. Like I tell them that.
Starting point is 02:24:46 And is that what she's trying to do? Like convince her family here that she's upset about leaving? No. I think she's trying to tell you how hard she works. Yeah, it's not that. You're thinking like a man. This ain't easy. She's not doing that.
Starting point is 02:24:58 I mean, my professor was right. But also, I feel like a dick because she is just trying to have an honest conversation about, like, her perspective on it is that it, you know what, I don't even believe that. Never mind. I get what you're saying, but it's there. I'm trying to, like, you know, everybody's got their own perception. Everybody wants, you know, rich people always want to downplay that and talk about that they've got this struggle or that.
Starting point is 02:25:21 Or they'll say, you know, but I grew up like this, you know, and same with her. Yeah. She's got a perfect life, but she's got to pretend that it's not. Because everybody has to build up with their problems into something probably more than they are. But there are people who work on Thanksgiving at Dollar General, Walmart, I mean, whatever. What about the vendor that's up there selling Cokes? Yeah. Do you think that she's upset?
Starting point is 02:25:47 You know, it's just, I feel for her because she's got a family and she wants to be around them on that day. however it is kind of funny the level of tone deafness to be like this is the day where I have it pretty hard when it's like the one day that nationally everyone's like boy I bet it would suck to be homeless like Thanksgiving is the one day where the whole nation is like let's donate money like God there's a lot of people who have it shitty you know what let's carry this all the way to Christmas let's be thinking about it the whole month and she's like this is probably a good time for me to pop out and discuss how bad it sucks to be a millionaire.
Starting point is 02:26:29 Maybe try the summer. I don't know. There's got to be a better time when the nation's more receptive to the lady with big letters on her closet wall to tell the things suck. Listen, I know what you're talking about. I've had to fight to keep a big K off my wall before. Cosplay rich people stuff.
Starting point is 02:26:49 That is a terrible bit. Sorry, Ethan. It's all yours now. Easton. It's okay. This is Easton Wolf. Your dad also, do you have an M. Raffle jersey,
Starting point is 02:27:04 or do you just talk to us about M. Raffle? We're having a discussion the other day about... We ran into you at a Stars game, and I thought you had an M. Raffle jersey. Do not have an M. Raffle jersey. That would have been great. But he was like one of three guys who recalled the bid. I just loved the fact that during that run,
Starting point is 02:27:20 that you... M. Raffle was vital to that run. He was a super big part of thing. One of our favorite players. Every time you look down at the stat sheet. There he is again. Fourth Line Grinders. Popping off.
Starting point is 02:27:32 The underrated M. Raffle. Boy, Troy loves the fourth line grinder. Like the Sam Steels of the world now. It's just the backbone. We see ourselves. Not all of us can be valedictorian. Now, is this your dad and you refer to him by his first name? Well, you know, there's a lot of people listening that I don't think they want to listen to say,
Starting point is 02:27:52 me say, oh, dad, dad's doing this, dad's doing that. but if I say Troy. Okay, so you're sub-tweeting Jake right now because he never says Greg or Jaffe. He'll call him pops or dad. But also T.C. is called his dad Tom since he was like five. It was one of the most shocking things I ever. I didn't know that people did that.
Starting point is 02:28:12 There were parents who would accept that. And he just calls him Tom and Linda. And whatever, man. Maybe it's conceded of me too, but I feel like if I say Troy, they can cross-reference that with perhaps the same Troy who got in a certain aviation incident. I figured we have to talk about it today.
Starting point is 02:28:35 Yeah, we've done this before, right? We have. I mean, I'd rather talk football officiating, but if y'all want to talk. Are you allowed to talk about that? Sure. I mean, all's questions are... But you were in a hotel, or excuse me, a helicopter accident. Yeah, in Hawaii, in the west coast of Hawaii.
Starting point is 02:28:52 we met somebody yesterday in the den who went to that island to take a similar flight like three days later and they were from here and i think they canceled it yeah saved the life yeah possibly and i did have some beef with dan dan didn't call it a crash yesterday or whenever you were talking about it i just wondered was it what did you feel that you were almost dead when we were when we were going into the cliff at that time i didn't know that he had control of the helicopter because there's something called auto rotation. Okay. And that's when the pilot will do, I think he's got to do two or three different things
Starting point is 02:29:31 within like five seconds to change the tilt of the blades and the rotor and different things to make it to where it just spins. And basically altitude is keeping it up in the air. But I didn't realize at the time that he could steer it decently. So we were kind of going into a cliff and then he turned it and landed on the beach. So you thought you were dying? When we were going into the cliff, absolutely. Were you texting your boss, F you?
Starting point is 02:29:55 No, I always thought you saw. No, it was the weirdest thing. You can see the video. I still hadn't watched the video, but it was really an airy video. It was quiet. You could just hear, you could just hear. It was almost like a peaceful type deal. It was weird.
Starting point is 02:30:10 Did it change your life? Your perspective moving forward. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. I mean, for the six months after that, for sure. There's some things that, you know, you come home and there's, the house isn't picked up and stuff everywhere really doesn't matter.
Starting point is 02:30:26 Okay. Yeah. That's very cool. A little like your experience. But is it the same hashtag perspective? Is it the same hashtag perspective of an athlete having a child, though? So you get hashtag perspective there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:40 You have to let people know. Yeah, but that one's just a BS one, I think. Yeah, it is. The athlete having a child. Everybody does. Especially they say it right away. Because I don't know. I mean, even though I did skin to skin.
Starting point is 02:30:51 Yeah, it wasn't like all of a sudden. No, no. The only perspective that has changed that quickly is your perspective on ever going back down there. Yeah, you're not going to know. Perspective changed. And then I think a month later, there was actually another charter company had a crash in the same location. And I've often said that if we didn't land, if we landed in the water, we were dead. I think we survived the impact, but you don't get out of the, I think you drowned.
Starting point is 02:31:16 Oh, wow. Yeah, you don't get out of the, because you're thinking you, okay, you'd rather land on water. default you land in water right so the advice is to fly with kind of like an air tank like a scuba gear and everything the air tank and possibly yeah you just kind of hook it up over and if you get in there but i don't think we could have got out of our seatbelt but those people did like a month later those people did i think four or five of them died so how long you've been roughing games 20 25 years 25 years been doing college for probably started kind of like blake you start in the minor leagues and you start in the NIA in Division 3, Division 2, and now Division 1.
Starting point is 02:31:56 So any questions y'all have on officiating? What do you do for regular work? So I manage a company that we build press boxes for our sister Bleacher Company. Okay. So there's a Bleacher company based out of here in Graham, Southern Bleacher. They built all the Speedways, Texas Motor Speedway, Charlotte, Atlanta, all those guys. and we build the press boxes that go on top of the football stadiums. So you had some level of connection, I guess, to the game by being around.
Starting point is 02:32:29 Okay, so how do you good, did you want to be a ref growing up? My dad refereed high school forever. So, you know, in the falls, I remember him always gone, you know, during Fridays. Even holidays, even. Even holidays. I mean, big sacrifice. You're living in a suitcase, right? Yeah, living in a suitcase.
Starting point is 02:32:47 But I, and then I came back from college. graduated from college came back my wife's from graham i'm from breckinridge and we moved to graham and um i played baseball in college and so the humble brag but anyway i was just saying i was just in sports and i kind of wanted to stay in sports and i didn't want to ref umpire baseball and so dad did football and so i kind of got into the high school ranks then and got on a college crew pretty quick and kind of hear him i think dan would be a good ref d'an would be a good ref because he's very even-kill Even killed, like, has a good, not rules, but just I feel like you're good at staying to this is the way that it is. Well, and so much of officiating, I'm on the, I'm on the line of scrimmage, so where the ball snapped, I'm on one sideline or the other.
Starting point is 02:33:32 So you're by coaches, and so much of it is just communicating with humans and interacting with humans. All right, now I'll back out on Dan. Yeah, I know, but Dan's got, we'll do it together. But Dan's got the, got the heart rate at 50. and he can and he'd be fine yeah that's cool man I went out and did it
Starting point is 02:33:51 like at a spring game once because they were actually advertising on the ticket because their numbers were so low I don't know if you've heard this has been a thing for about the last 10 years they just can't get people
Starting point is 02:34:02 to do it anymore no and we broke them a high school coat or a high school refish yeah and they still are struggling and Easton's a prime example I tried to get him involved early on and I think you did
Starting point is 02:34:11 you know some flag football for the Graham local league and he just got berated. I mean, the parents are terrible, and he didn't want to, he didn't want to do it. Okay, no. Not because some guy yelled at me. That'd be enough for me. What level are, what level are you at now, Division 1? Yeah, Division 1, so FCS. So, what does that mean? For example, what game did you do recently? Texas State, maybe. Texas State's Division 1. Oh, that's right. Yeah, the real Division 1. I almost have what conference I'm in,
Starting point is 02:34:41 but schools like Stephen F, McNeese, Houston Christian. what do you get paid per game about a thousand bucks okay damn that's more than i would have including travel costs or travel travels in looped in with that yeah when you get into the higher rank you looped in like added on to the thousand no it's it's it's one fee you pay for the travel then out of that thousand you just you just get a flat rate and then your travel is calculated oh you make about a thousand technically the game rate is like 750 or whatever but then the rest of it's travel but they give it to you all it wants but when you get into the higher do you get to stay at nice hotels like the team hotel depends on what school so if you go to some
Starting point is 02:35:19 louisiana schools not as nice they've gotten better though they've gotten better per diem get a per diem for how much for like the uh the whole weekend it's it's in that it's in that one fee of a thousand dollars okay yeah so you usually travel somewhere on a friday sleep over friday night yeah so you've got to be on the vision one you've got to be uh on-site friday evening so they want you there so i'll leave here get to the airport um take a noon flight or something like that get to location and then games of saturday you generally you don't come back until sunday morning because you know you're not catching a late flight out of lake charles louisiana so you got to wait till the next morning you also have to have a job that's going to be yeah got to be very flexible
Starting point is 02:36:03 employer somewhat senior in your job are you ever the guy with the mic no that's the referee oh well what are you then so i have the h on the back of my jersey that's it that's a headlinesman okay they spot the ball could you be a referee or do you have to have different training for that i could they probably make the dough a little more a little bit a little bit more a little bit more but they want their families to see them on tv as far as as as far as rules-wise i think i could do it but as far as just being on the microphone and that presentates because so much of our stuff is on it's on tv and it's all about presentation and keeping the game tight,
Starting point is 02:36:42 you know, how that part would be a learning curve a little bit. So you're excited when, like, they call for Gene Sterator? You're like, oh, yeah, hell yeah. Representation matters. It's Pereira. A comment. Because those guys weren't real refs. A lot of them weren't, like, long-time reps.
Starting point is 02:36:58 I don't know if Dean Blondino ever was, but. Oh, really? I thought Pereira was a ref, but he wasn't an NFL ref, I don't think. Yeah. He was at one time. Blondino was head of NFL officials at one time. I don't know. I'm sure Blanino called at different levels.
Starting point is 02:37:12 I don't think Blanino ever was NFL. Obviously Saratore was and used to have Mike Carey and who's the guy on NBC? Terry McCauley. Terry McCall. Yeah, so he's former head of the DNC. Do they ever have, you ever have like ref beef? With each other or with coach? You put on a call on a crew with somebody and you're like, I'm not this guy.
Starting point is 02:37:34 No, no. And in our conference we work, we don't work in crews, so we're different guys, different You're always meeting a bunch of new guys? Well, you know most of everybody. There's only 50 or 60 officials. You know most of everybody. Yeah, but you don't like Big 12 guys or SEC guys. They work in a crew all year.
Starting point is 02:37:51 So it's the same replay, same communicator, same crew, all that stuff. So it's a little different in the conference I work in. Are there referee groupies? I have not seen any. Damn. But we do. There's not radio. Zebra Chasers.
Starting point is 02:38:08 There's not sports radio groupies either. No, they're probably not. That's why I got into it. But back to your female officials, there's female officials in our conference. There's a few female officials? Then we've got three, three, four. Okay. Sounds pretty woke.
Starting point is 02:38:21 No comment. Yeah. Oh, okay. Do they all suck, like the NBA reps? They're all great college football officials. Okay. Why are you winking at Dan? Not.
Starting point is 02:38:34 Like. You said ask anything. Ask anything. Keep going. I was more thinking of rules-oriented. it but if you want to know logistics i mean i was telling blake earlier y'all butchered the whole fair catch on the kickoff and all that stuff how did we butcher that well brandon got you straight you can you can kick on an on-site kick you can kick it into the ground once in the NFL though i don't
Starting point is 02:38:56 think so right i'm not sure about the NFL i think brandon said yes oh you're ready to get up our ass here well we said in college we said in college that you couldn't and i didn't think you could but you can do a one bounce somewhat recently. And still do a fair catch after it's hit the ground once? Correct. You can fair catch and you don't even have to fair catch it. The receiving team still has the unimpeded opportunity to catch that ball. So if a guy's standing, no fair catch.
Starting point is 02:39:22 If a guy is still standing under it, a guy from the kicking team can't jump in and get it. Oh. It's a sweet kick if you can pull it off. Yeah. Now if it hits twice, all bets are off. It's anybody's bowl. What rule would you change? A targeting rule in college.
Starting point is 02:39:40 Why? Because to me it's pretty penal, is that a word? Punitive. Punitive. You know, I think Texas high school now has, Blake, they have two levels. You don't see it much, but there's two levels of targeting. They have a targeting one, targeting two. Targeting one would be like a, it just happened during the play, wasn't malicious, anything like that.
Starting point is 02:40:00 Targeting two would be your more premeditated, you know, receiver going over the middle. I think they have that in Texas. in Texas high school, but NCAA, it's not. So you can be trying to make a tackle, the guy changes his position. You see it with quarterbacks all the time in college to where, you know, he moves about and changes position, and then the guy hits him in the head, and he's out of the game. They're ejected. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:26 It's a wild rule. Where did you go to school that you were a valedictorian? Like high school or college? Well, were you valedictorian in college? No, no, no, no. Okay. Now, I went to school at the University of Alabama. graduated this spring well no where were you valedictorian oh graham high school
Starting point is 02:40:41 gram high school okay so that's not as impressive as i thought no right i mean how big is graham high school uh 150 150 was when my okay so that's pretty good yeah it's fine now what do they call the female sports teams why what are the males steers yeah and we once learned that out in bridgeport they have the bulls but they call the females the cissies oh not the The cows? No. Like saffard? The heifers.
Starting point is 02:41:13 Yeah. You know, we are the lady blues. That's what, it's kind of a generic. I don't know either, but steers. I've always thought, I've always found it weird, though, with steers. Just like. Just too close to queer and then they can, other people can call you that. Well, yes.
Starting point is 02:41:31 They can turn that around. They've been the butt of many of those jokes. But also, like, they don't have balls, you know? I did not know that. What is that? You're fixing to learn that here. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:42 So the difference between a steer and a bull, steers don't have balls. Who's the coach that did that in front of the team? Like Jackie Sherrill or somebody. Do you remember that? Anybody remember that? Castrated a bull? Yeah, in front of the team.
Starting point is 02:41:55 Damn, no. I didn't know that. Look that up real quick. College coach, it's not that long ago. Like, I was alive when... Jackie Sherrill was in 50s. No, he's 80s, right? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:42:09 That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking it was something like in the 80s where... Is it Jackie Sherrill? Jackie Sherrill, before their game against Texas, castrates a bull in front of the team. The Bulldogs went on to beat the Longhorns 28 to 10. There you go. Oh, he was at Mississippi State, though?
Starting point is 02:42:23 Yeah. But it was very... It was controversial at the time, like, to do that. I think it would be controversial at any time. I don't know. When Alice in Wonderland is written, they probably like, yeah, this is nothing. Well, we've got some gifts for you guys. Okay.
Starting point is 02:42:40 Come bearing. And my fiancé is bringing these gifts right now, and I want you all to see that she has a shirt. I just saw that. Yeah, so September 11th, 2001, and I forgot what happened. Not now. Until she had a shirt that says, will not forget. Will not.
Starting point is 02:42:57 Right. Wilson Funeral Home sponsors. Oh, my God. That is crazy. A funeral home has sponsored it. Radio logos on the back. Yeah, we've got so good. It's a Clear Channel promotion.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Wow. Clear Channel's not going to pay for this, but we can probably get Wilson Funeral Homes to sponsor. That is the greatest promo shirt of all time. The never forget 9-11 shirt. Just giving away at a cell phone store. Wow. Yeah, in Tuscaloosa. We found it.
Starting point is 02:43:27 That is beautiful. What a great find. So Dan's hold the gift first. Which one of our sponsors could we get to put the bill for our. 9-11, never forget. I'm opening mine first. Sure, Dan. Or you say, what you say?
Starting point is 02:43:42 Daniel, you can open it first, Daniel. By the way, I saw a deal the other day that, speaking of valedictorians, you went to Bama, too, I guess. The Ivy League is losing students to the SEC. Why is that? It's just because of the vibe of football and TV and weather, like, the people who used to be like, well, yeah, I'm valedictorian. I'm going to Harvard. I'm like, how about Ole Miss? Well, she's one of the people.
Starting point is 02:44:07 of that, like, article, because Annika's from Massachusetts. Oh, wow. And people are coming down to the SEC schools from New England and, like, record numbers, so it's definitely a trend. Did you do well in high school? I like to think so. Okay. Were you valedictorian?
Starting point is 02:44:27 No. Does he hold that over you? Yes, he does. Yeah. He kind of does with everybody. All right. So did you have your... Your pick of colleges being a valedictorian or no?
Starting point is 02:44:39 I did, but during these times, you know, there were very unprecedented times. What year did you go to college? 21. 21 I started. Wow. Yeah. But they weren't precedented. No, uncharted.
Starting point is 02:44:55 Yeah. These waters. Okay. It was in a bag, but now it's a box in a bag. So now I'll open the box that was in a bag. And. Oh. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:45:09 Look at that. Speaking of never forgetting, it's some special printed napkins with a picture of a toy poodle's head there, and it says, quote, well, maybe don't let him eat the napkin. Unquote, Cornelius, the moron dog, and I can have these.
Starting point is 02:45:30 That's incredible, dude. This is really great work. I was trying to get Blake to get a photo of Cornelius, but we could never find one, so I just found a stalk image of a... That's pretty close. Just about what he looked like, yeah. No, he was a typical little poodle.
Starting point is 02:45:42 Yeah, you got to show Blake. Oh, yeah. Here's the... Wow. That is amazing. Are we going to camera it all today still? It's all cursive. We're adding this to Dan Hold stuff?
Starting point is 02:45:53 It looks very throat pillow. Do we have a Dan Hold Stuff? Shred? No, we don't. No, no. I was kidding. He does all the social media stuff, and they know I don't look at it. Okay, Blake.
Starting point is 02:46:04 How sweet. What else am I holding? I want to know. You have no idea. Is it funny? I think so. It's a little separate feed on our IG. Like any time I think of it, you hit it a hundred times, you'll keep going.
Starting point is 02:46:20 I want to add something to his plate, and I'm like, you know what, he's got too many things going on. I'm not going to ask him to do this. Here. Okay, there. This is the Dan Hold Stuff thread. Okay. I'd like to apologize at Jake and Blake for, uh, will it just roll? Dan finding out.
Starting point is 02:46:35 Dan holding a pillow, Dan holding, okay. Dan holding a monkey. Dan holding. There's a lot. It goes back a couple years. Since the beginning. Here's me just holding a little, oh, a food warmer. I'm not even showing that to the camera.
Starting point is 02:46:52 I just happen to be holding it. You're holding something. So Blake took a picture. A cute little bag. Dan holding Jake's half-eaten sandwich. Oh, yeah, it was a good day. Other companies are turning their social media over to, like, outside sources. We're going to optimize this algorithm for you.
Starting point is 02:47:10 And he labels every one of them. All right, who's next? I've got the 2026 Farmer's Almanac. Wow. That is right up your alley, bud. It really is. We figured the Run the Ball guy would approve. Let's see what we got in store for next March.
Starting point is 02:47:29 You need to be giving us, like, monthly reports. On what's coming. Let's see. Next March, we got sunrise at 6.13 in the morning. That's a gram-ass gift right there. It is. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 02:47:46 Boy, weather. That's awesome. All right. We got that gift. We got these gifts a while back, and we happened to get a second copy of the Farmer's Almanac for dad. And you've been reading your fair share. Well, I guess it's time. My wife has been pushing us to get a record player
Starting point is 02:48:08 because I now have the single. Whoa! Garth Brooks standing outside the fire. The holidays are approaching. Easily one of my favorite songs of all time. Which, Dan, you cannot find on any streaming services. No. Wow.
Starting point is 02:48:25 We can find the video, though. You, of course, can find the video of Garth singing this song while a young boy with Down syndrome tries out. for the track and field team while his father not necessarily supportive of his son's limitations yells at him
Starting point is 02:48:41 as he trips over hurdles all the while Garth playing outside of the track meet while the stadium is on fire so this is amazing this is one of my favorite records and you guys are incredible also a very grand give
Starting point is 02:48:57 this is great So what was your gift? I didn't even look. Farmer's Almanac. Oh, okay. He was too busy looking at himself holding things. Yeah, that, Dan, holding things a good bit. So you're already engaged.
Starting point is 02:49:13 Yes, yes. Got engaged. Three weeks. How does a valedictorian find college? Difficult, easy, nothing, like whatever? What did you study? Mechanical engineering. There you go.
Starting point is 02:49:29 No layups there. So, I guess. it depends on what major you do. I don't think it really matters what school you go to. I think I can say that. She's chemical engineering. So it's definitely the major that you do.
Starting point is 02:49:44 Say again? She could make meth. I think so. Between the two of all. I looked into it after I watched Breaking Bad. Is it what it be as easy as he kind of showed it to be? I did not do it, but I looked into how to do it. Why are you winking? But you could do it.
Starting point is 02:49:59 If I had the right materials, I think I could. Okay. You stop winking at Dan, why you're saying that? Selling it. If she had meth, she could cook it. Well, selling it is a deal, but I bet they could all make it. Yeah, it is finding your Jesse.
Starting point is 02:50:14 Yeah. Finding your Jesse is important. So how did... She got a market in the backyard. What was the engagement scene? What did you do? We went to... Do you care?
Starting point is 02:50:27 Yeah, I'm interested in how today's... Okay, okay, okay. So today's, you know, 20-something-year-old gets engaged because you have to make it a production now. Yes, you can't. It can't be a personal thing. Nothing is between you and one person anymore. Yes. Yeah, we have to publicize it.
Starting point is 02:50:45 Yeah. Yes. So did you have a photographer? Did you have some? We did. Yeah, it's one of her best friends, who's actually a good photographer. So save me out on some cash. I think Jake pulled that same scam.
Starting point is 02:50:56 Sure. Yeah, yeah. But we went to this way it's called Purcell Farms. Did she know it was coming? Oh, you knew. Okay. Okay, so this is all a big... Okay, but I'm going to catch...
Starting point is 02:51:08 I was in a catch-22 because... And I think a lot of men here can sympathize with me. The woman get mad if there is an engagement photo... And she doesn't look good. And she doesn't have her nails done. Right. She need... They need the nails done.
Starting point is 02:51:27 But how do you say that... Right. They need to get the... their nails done without them raising an eye right that's why you gotta find someone who just keeps their act together all the time and not this yeah exactly it doesn't exactly work if you're just like there's watching tv in the living room it's a few days before and you walk by and you're like i never really noticed but your nails look like shit yeah wow they wouldn't you know they wouldn't i wonder if you should get those done before we go out to dinner yeah yes so real real lose lose you're
Starting point is 02:51:56 right yeah and you know we went somewhere for the weekend so she brought i told her bring the white dress and that was another giveaway so i'm not really good oh your friend whose photographer's come with us too right no she didn't know that she that's the one thing i will say she did not know that the photographer would be there okay but now it was going so the that was the tiniest of the surprise at least she got that yeah like oh my gosh and the setting too i didn't know how he was going to do or where he was so you do it was going to happen you thought he'd have pants on but i knew what happened that weekend but i didn't know where we were going that weekend i didn't know what the scene would be but you do it's the day i'm wearing this dress
Starting point is 02:52:33 though correct okay so you're going out friday and you're like should i wear and he's like no no no and you're like okay guard down what do you guys think of those uh like have you ever seen the one where they get the cops involved like that they'll get pulled over and act like it's a big deal and then there's a guy's getting arrested the cop hit like you ever seen those billy clubs him it's not that far off basically the idea is to put people in like the this This is a terrible situation. He tells the would-be fiancé, you can get out of this. Right.
Starting point is 02:53:03 She says yes, way too quick. The husband's like, no, wait. Yeah, that's, don't trick it up. You did it right. Predictable or not, you did it right. I appreciate it. And those are memories that you'll cherish forever until the next year when you have to go take pictures. And the next year, when you have to go take pictures, and the next year.
Starting point is 02:53:23 Do you celebrate your proposal date? Not as much, we would, but we do first kiss. Oh, Jay, that's so cute. Actually, I celebrate the first time that I got to meet her family. You guys know I take off every year on that day. Well, I know family is important to you. Family. As well as football.
Starting point is 02:53:47 And faith. But we, you can arrange those. It's up to you. Yeah, yeah. That your discretion. Well, this has been a lot of fun, guys. Yeah, any other closing remarks? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:59 We just, I appreciate you guys coming out. I know it's a two hour, two plus hours. We were explaining. We had to explain yesterday to somebody that this is not a. It's not normal. A circumstance we would do this for just anybody. There's a short list, but you guys are on it. But if you almost died in a helicopter crash, if you've been.
Starting point is 02:54:19 Don't really want to hear it if you finish second in your class. Right. No. Don't email. Yeah. So, yeah. You remember him, rock. That's honestly a huge...
Starting point is 02:54:29 Yeah, being a part of the M. Raffle crew is important. Hopefully you enjoy it out here. Don't tell anybody in y'all's neck of the woods. It's a terrible place to live. Yeah, we don't want... A lot of it is a field. Keep it that way. Much of it is a field.
Starting point is 02:54:43 We don't want any of y'all's people coming out here. Don't Dallas is Graham. That's right. Keep Graham weird. Adios, mofo. We've got to go before this becomes a zoo. Thank you for watching my video. Subscribe and type for my name if you want to watch.
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