The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 12-1-25 | Lane Kiffin bolts for LSU and our Thanksgiving weekend check with Sarah Hepola

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneA lot to catch up on since last week's episode from Austin as the Longhorns take down t...he Aggies and the Cowboys beat the Chiefs. A big weekend check, Lane Kiffin to LSU, and a gender studies controversy at OU with Sarah Hepola (00:00) - Open: Weekend check (01:11:21) - Sports: Thanksgiving football (01:32:05) - Lane Kiffin to LSU (01:58:15) - Today in Twitter: Gender studies at OU story (02:09:04) - News: Machetes for the homeless (02:26:33) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm DFW Zone Danny Bayless, letting you know that you are about to hear a free podcast of the DumbZone. But if you'd like to subscribe at DumbZone.com, you will get four shows per week plus the weekend wrap-up and any bonus epies like our Business Wednesday interviews. Oh, you'll also get our DZTV archives. Again, that's Dumbzone.com to subscribe. Now, on to today's program. the holidays are approaching jake they are on top of the stand how about a nice big red bow how about a nice big red bow on top of a new or new to you vehicle or fair lease the website is fairlease dot org simply put they're going to make this fair simple easy for you they cut out the middleman because they're owned by the credit union at texas that means they put your best interest
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Starting point is 00:01:18 We will supply you with a big red bow if you get a new vehicle or any new vehicle new to you through Fairlease between now and Christmas. Create memories. Create some memories, get laid, get paid at Fairlease.org. Another cowboy-free Sunday. I could get used to it. Although you came over my house and we had to sit and watch
Starting point is 00:02:16 a fourth and one at their own 30-yard line. Kevin Stefansky call for, hey, let's go for it. We're just watching all my picks, including my triple play, go up in flames together. We rode off the cliff together. Right to last place. Right into last place. Right into the ditch. It's all over.
Starting point is 00:02:43 We can concede. It can't be one now. God. You must have been a real firecracker in the locker room. I got better. You know, last week with Picks, I went 0 and 10, and I'm improving steadily. This week, 1 in 9. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That's right. So 10 weeks from now, look out. I'd just like to... 10% better every day, right? Isn't that the mantra? Yes, it is. There we go. I got 10% better.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So I think you're losing is over. This is just the hero's arc. You'll end up saving our season. Yes, you can't have Darkest before dawn You can't have a great comeback story without Yeah, you're like Rudy Everybody loves him
Starting point is 00:03:32 Right He's the best I speaks talks to you Anyway Happy Monday So effing cold in the D It is man I was so depressed last night too
Starting point is 00:03:47 Like taking the dogs out Thinking Like this is the start you know there's no like oh another three weeks probably start cracking no it just cracked into cold
Starting point is 00:04:02 and I despise cold it does bring us the fire can't have a fire without the cold but I'd rather have never have a fire I think I fool myself into thinking that I would like this or could handle it the same as the heat you know in my dreams of living in an older city
Starting point is 00:04:20 but I probably couldn't I was reminded of that this morning and I'm not trying to be who didn't you grow up in Ohio guy but I am trying to be prospective guy also known as gay the fact that it just started
Starting point is 00:04:36 you have to be appreciative of it was warm on Thanksgiving this will be over by for the most part like the end of January all right well still we're at the beginning and I don't like it I don't love it either
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I'm going to, uh, to New York this weekend with, uh, my wife and daughter. Wow. And, uh, quick trip, leave Friday, come back Monday, but I was not, I don't know. I did not wrap my head around how cold it will be at this time of year in New York and how much of a pain in the ass it can be. Oh, yeah. With a small child and because it's Christmas and we want to see the Christmas stuff. Oh, okay. Yeah. See the big tree? Yeah. There's all sorts of stuff. Get the Matt Brunick guide to the city for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:05:20 So Go ground zero Yeah I think they have it decorated What about the You're going to go to the ESPN zone Isn't that where you and Joe Got in a fight? You're pretty close
Starting point is 00:05:32 You're mixing up a couple stories But yes The fight we got it actually occurred after A little hole in the wall place Called Sabaros In Times Square Or my family Local delicate
Starting point is 00:05:45 Local treat there But no yeah Cold sucks I don't love it It makes me not want to exercise. I know that. We had that trip. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Can't get any steps. You had that trip to Austin the other day, and I stopped for some Tex-Mex on the way. A Taco Bell, it was called. It was fantastic. Got the app? Wow. Yeah. I finally got the app.
Starting point is 00:06:11 But that's a little peek into the weekend check. Don't want to give you that right now. Well, we want to give you right now. Oh, hi, Blake. Blake's back everybody Blake Jones Back with his mustache Back from
Starting point is 00:06:25 I don't know Wherever you were I guess we'll hear about that On the weekend check Maybe The mustache is just incredible Jake's It's a different mustache
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'm trying A little tinier And then you get that haircut And you could be Some kind of a guy Who barks a lot of orders and people quiver in fear because he is their leader, and he has worked all the laws so that nobody can vote for anyone else,
Starting point is 00:06:58 even if they tried to. Who Twitter detectives now think had a micropenus? Oh, no, that's new. That's not new. New to me. These things get recycled. Okay. Hitler's gas.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Hitler's mangled dick. One ball. Yeah, I've heard that too. One testicle, I believe. Now that you say that. Yeah, Blake will write you a warning. I have other plans. Anyway, oh, Jake got pulled over on the way
Starting point is 00:07:25 And I never thought about this But the reason you got let off Was you had the mustache It might have been You were in a trust You were a trust where this guy I can trust He can't, yeah, because he did have his pistol out When he was approaching the car
Starting point is 00:07:38 And then he turned the corner I was like, oh, whoa Were you nice? Super Okay, new Jake Definitely new Yep Yeah
Starting point is 00:07:47 Definitely new and I forgot to mention this on Friday when discussing the interaction. The ticket or warning actually says 10% over speed limit, as I for many years have thought, why don't they do that? And now they do. Another thing I created, like YouTube TV. So what we want to do, before we get into all the football, what do we have today? tons of football
Starting point is 00:08:17 Sarah Heppela will be here Sarah's Heppelas will be here To talk fantasy football Let's see Lane Kiffin looks like he's on the run sheet For some reason Every few years We put Lane Kiffin on
Starting point is 00:08:30 For the exact same reason We'll follow up on some Romo audio And Yeah that's basically what's coming up on today's show Also a Brandon Aubrey announcement I don't think I told Jake he has alerted me that he would be available live from Detroit on Thursday if we wanted it.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Wow. Game Day. Wow. I think that's a resounding yes. I said, well, we live in the Game Day Men's Health Studio. Can we do it during the stream Thursday night? He'll be busy during the stream. Oh, yeah, that'd be great.
Starting point is 00:09:09 We'll be on if he has time. Sometimes it looks like he's just hanging out. What about a halftime guest? What's he doing? Like, they're not like, oh, here's what we're going to do in the third quarter, Brandon. Like, he's just standing over there. Hey, you still kick it that way? We're good.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Derek Holland style. Yeah, have him do some imitations. Clayton remembers one of my favorite sports moments of all time. If I can, I should make it my goal to find that. But they were in the world series. And Derek Holland was doing play-by-play as Arnold Schwarzenegger. And someone with the Cardinals gave one a ride like to the wall. And I remember thinking,
Starting point is 00:09:45 had that gone out this would have been forever viral like as he's just Harry Carey calling a three run poo holes blast to give the Cardinals the lead in game three or something
Starting point is 00:09:58 insane yeah I don't think I have that some looking Derek Holland was once interviewed as Kermit oh game five it's possible Derek Holland full
Starting point is 00:10:14 it's possible maybe we investigate Derek Holland became a star last night we'll figure it out we'll imitate it back to me we got to get you guys to get you guys this is the world series again whatever you're willing to do we'll listen two balls two strikes first of
Starting point is 00:10:31 running with a count three and two we'll see bowled back in a good battle all right we'll get to it we'll look into that right now though we've teased this a little bit So we're bad at promoting our show and at growing the show and going five wide or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:48 We're bad at all that, right? Yeah. So we're going to try and do something for one month or three weeks at least to better us in that regard. We don't do this throughout the year, really. But we're going to have – it'll all culminate on December 22nd, which is a good. Monday, right? Yeah. Yeah, three weeks from today.
Starting point is 00:11:17 We will do our Dumb Zone Sub-Athon. Dun-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So if you subscribe, we will donate. And all the proceeds from the Dumb Zone Sub-Athon will go to the North Texas Food Bank. We're looking for something that might kind of be a natural with our show. Blake has given money to the hungry in North Texas. Now, he is localized his. His is very micro.
Starting point is 00:11:55 This is more of a macro thing. We're going to give to all who need food in these times. We won't have it delivered. No. Draw the line there. We won't give a ride to anyone, I don't think. Right. But we will donate your.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So now this is even if you just donate, like if you just subscribe. So we have our YouTube numbers, we have our Patreon numbers, we have our substack numbers. And by the end of the day on December 22nd, we will say, how many did we have December 1st, how many do we have now? Okay, so we have this many more YouTube subscribers. That's just a free thing. Like you can just tell a buddy, hey, go subscribe, pump up their numbers a little bit. $1 will be donated. So you subscribe to YouTube, we will donate $1 to the North Texas Food Bank.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Any monthly subscription on dumzone.com, which is on substack or patreon.com slash the dumbzone? You can figure it. Should I have looked that up? On Patreon, any monthly subscription, we will donate $5. Any annual subscription, we will donate $50. And if you want to become a VIP, which you'll see the description on those outlets, we will donate $250 for every VIP subscription. So we're just trying to pump up the subs a little bit, trying to give money to charity.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And this will all end December 22nd. So this is the first of 12 shows, well, 12 days of Christmas. leading up to December 22nd where we will do 12 hours that day, 7A to 7P, and try to raise money for the North Texas Food Bank. So if you are a listener subscriber, you're not really a YouTube type, just go click the button and a dollar goes to the food bank. Maybe you're already a subscriber and this is an opportunity to give a gift, you know, and you feel like some of that's going to the food bank as well.
Starting point is 00:14:09 We've got to put up a link so you can easily gift a subscription. And I should also mention that in that VIP option, which is like what, 420 or something a year, that comes with an invite to the Dumzones generic Christmas party, which we'll be taking place. Now, you know, you're probably missing this year's, but if you want to go to next year's, we've got a big time planned about eight days from now for friends of the program. Now to get you into that. That's worth that alone. I think anyone gets in that is a VIP. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you won't miss that. this year's, I'm saying. Oh, if you get in before good, go for it. Go for it. Because we are at the limit, but I don't have to go. We're not at the limit. Oh, I thought we were at the limit.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Whatever. I thought we have too many people. Like, I have volunteering to not go there. I would like, yeah, I know you are. You're locked down. I'm trying to be cool. I don't want to invite the world, but I would like to make sure all VIPs get in. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Over the limit. So this is our sub-a-thon. Tear that place down. There you go. Yeah. There's some promotion. See, we're good at promotion. Right now, let's do a weekend check.
Starting point is 00:15:16 It is brought to us by Community Mechanical. Man, I was so thankful for a Community Mechanical this morning sitting in my office where they came out and installed the mini-split where you can get heating or air and, frankly, ventilation right there in one unit. They've helped out me. They've helped out Dan, Blake, Brandon Aubrey. The list goes on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I forgot about Brandon. community DFW is the website CommunityDFW.com Travis at CommunityDFW.com is the website get that preventative maintenance schedule that's what you have correct then? PM that's right they discovered some pretty big problems up in the attic too
Starting point is 00:15:56 so get that taken care of the holidays are approaching They really are you don't want this big red bow on your You know what? Let's do it Get yourself an HVAC unit We'll put a bow on it You don't want this thing crapping out while your family's over there.
Starting point is 00:16:10 You got a bunch of junk going on, trying to entertain people. Do what we did. Do what Brandon Aubrey did. Call community mechanical, hit them up online. CommunityDFW.com. And the phone number, Dan, call or text anytime is 469, 6677-290. You think you have a problem? They come out.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Maybe somebody else told you it'll be $10,000, and they'll tell you no. That's what they did for Brandon Aubrey. Now, he's a customer for life at communityddbw.com. Uh, Clayton, you start us on the weekend check. Foodie, C.K. Yeah, so Friday drove back from the event afterwards. Big round of applause for Clayton. Big round of applause for Clayton.
Starting point is 00:16:59 We are now in the, it's kind of a gift and a curse for him. Because we're now in the phase where things just work so well it's expected. And I kind of forget to be like, hey, this is great everything works really well great setup at the bar right it was it was awesome tc did a great job filling in for blake's mustache i thought clayton was a lot better but go ahead hey humble humble yeah so yeah i was uh after these events i'm just so jacked on adrenaline that i wasn't going to be able to sleep or go back and just sit in a house so i just got in the car and drove back.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Stopped at Buckees, met the DeSoto traveling party as they were heading home. I hit that Buckees twice. Oh, I hit one. The way downer and the way up. Yeah, I hit the one at the corner right before you get to West on the way down. I drove down Thursday. Okay. Listen to the Brad and Babe.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And so great. Let me send you a box score so you know the outcome. But I had to get home. I had to get home Friday night because Saturday I needed to watch some college football in the morning and then we had a little PLE in the evening. Oh yeah, ESPN was promoting that. A little Survivor series.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I've had to explain that WWE is on ESPN to too many people and the response is why? And that's my response. Well, what's the first letter? Is it an entertainment? W. No, ESPN, they don't care. No.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I just couldn't believe that the ease it with, at which Stephanie coasted through the Survivor series on the female side. Although Becky Lynch kind of stole the show. You'd probably have to agree. That was good, Jake. That was really good. I prepared. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So, yeah, I watched that. I wasn't happy. What does that cost you? What's the damage? What's that set you back? Um, so I have a bundle through, um, a thing called my parents' Hulu account. Okay. So I just log in on that on my computer and...
Starting point is 00:19:16 But so they don't charge you per event? Uh, not on ESPN. Like, you have to have like the ESPN plus, like, like... Right, right. The $30 month thing. Yeah. Up charge thing is. But I think through the bundle, it's nothing...
Starting point is 00:19:29 How old are you? 38. Still on your parents. Yeah. T. I pay my mom's phone bill, so we do this for That little trade. I'm just wondering
Starting point is 00:19:45 Do I ever, am I ever free of this? It doesn't seem like it. I don't, I was never on mine. So I never, but I would have, I guess, probably tried to write it, although I think I have a little self-respect. I have plenty of friends who don't. I remember George, George was talking about his sons being on it until they were in their 30s.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. Maybe still are. I don't know. T.C. definitely. I mean, it's more affordable. I put my mom on ours because it's more affordable to be part of the family plan. It's always the common retort to which I say. And what day of the month do you send them your portion of that every month? Tends to typically be zero. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Clayton is going to pay for it anyway. What do you mean? If they're bundling Hulu, they have it, they just gave him his login. Like, I'm on my parents' YouTube TV. They're paying for it either way. What if they're only paying for it because they know? No, he needs his wrestling. YouTube TV doesn't charge you per user.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And if they do, if you get caught, they charge you like $10 more. A phone plan is another $100 to $150. Or maybe $80 if you're saving, which is, you know, $1,000 over the year. Nobody's sending the remittance home to Mom and Dad. But to Dan's point, my mom won't call me on Saturdays. She knows that I get to skip my Saturday call if there is wrestling because I will be. invested so that's like golf you just say you do it and then everybody has to respect well five six hours he's just allowed to be gone yeah here's wrestling night but i wasn't really
Starting point is 00:21:18 impressed with it uh writing wasn't that good the endings that they did for some of the matches weren't the writing no i heard the war games ended with a bit of a fizzle yeah it was just kind of meh um wendy's wendies uh oh wendies is trying to get into the tenders game
Starting point is 00:21:41 and this is why venture capital can't buy our fast food restaurants folks oh no another case black rock owns them vanguard owns them and they're just
Starting point is 00:21:55 tanking everything that we loved about wendy portions are getting smaller. We already know they lost the Bacon Wars from previous weekend checks. Yep. And now they're trying to get into the Tenders game. And, you know, it's like, if Taco Bell does it,
Starting point is 00:22:12 and then you still haven't done it, it's kind of like just sit this one out. Yeah, it's good analysis. And they're not even, they're just the most generic, they're the same tenders that you buy at the grocery store in the hot, in the hot food section.
Starting point is 00:22:29 So they're not, like... Clayton is predicting the downfall of Wendy's right here. Yeah. Yeah, Wendy's is... Because I saw it... I saw something similar firsthand, I think, with the macaroni grill. I would go there twice a week with my kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:45 She loved it, but then... You just noticed, yeah, the portions are smaller now, and, oh, wait, that free ice cream she gets at the end of her kid's meal, now that's $1.29? Oh, okay. I guess that's not a big deal. And then the ice cream's a little smaller? Huh. Okay, I guess that's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Then the portions of spaghetti were smaller? All right. Well, after a while. And then it's like, nobody's going on to eat anymore. I guess that's why this restaurant failed. Like, I noticed. So I can't. You think a guy like me isn't going to notice?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Oh, yeah. I don't know that I can confirm this, but as far as the outcome of it. But do you recall the Chipotle study that one guy did? Yeah, like if you go in person. you get a much higher or bigger? There may be a couple different versions of this, but what he did is he bought the same thing for X amount of days and just tracked the decrease in like he waited every day.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Okay, I love it. And it was over, it was a long study. And the last I saw, their stock price directly negatively correlated to like when he released that. Okay. Yeah, we've been on the... Chipotle is so inconsistent, and it depends on the person making it and how good or bad of a mood they're in. And...
Starting point is 00:24:06 Well, they would have loved if I was working there, because I used to do that when I worked it... Oh, yeah. In the kitchen, I'd be like, you know what? Are these your beans? Yeah, they tell me one ladle of spaghetti sauce, and I was like, that's not enough to cover that. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Slap a couple on there, but I realize the bit is, if they can get one less ladle for each oil... across the United States, we save a half a million dollars. Well, bad play in the long run. Yeah. You're going to lose a value customer. A guy like Clayton. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Poor. Hey, I haven't been to Chipotle and don't even know. And that's what I'm saying. That has directly affected their stock price. Yeah, they lost me. My daughter was in town, as you know. You saw her, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, she was on the game stream. unimpressed by anything on a football field. Yeah, I'm not surprised by that. You don't. Like, I wish there was a world where you could sit down with somebody who's intelligent and interested in the world and be like, I know this isn't your thing, but if you try to think about everything that's happening here in front of you,
Starting point is 00:25:15 which, again, I can tell you, spoiler from my weekend check, if you take a little bit of mushrooms and watch football, it really starts to be like this is the gladiators this is the Roman Coliseum and you know she's like a smart person interested in different cultures and stuff but
Starting point is 00:25:32 you know I think the deflection of this sucks everything around me sucks probably a little bit too tough of an exterior well we did she was good on the game though yeah she let the game come to her yeah it was fun
Starting point is 00:25:48 did a our usual thing I don't know if you remember our usual thing but she loves to go to half-priced books in fact she will hit like everyone in the Metroplex okay
Starting point is 00:26:02 she likes to see how many she can go to in a week then we go to Chan's Mongolian barbecue which is fantastic can't beat it and then never cut in your portions then you stop at Andes oh they can't
Starting point is 00:26:17 Chans, you make your own portions. Let me go to Andy's for a little ice cream. Then had an outdoor fire on Thanksgiving Day, the fire pit outside. Phenomenal. It was a good day, no wind, and it was like 60. Then we went to Austin. Controversy was around Blake, because somehow this turned into my fault that Jake had to drive with T. TC last week is like, hey, do you want to drive together?
Starting point is 00:26:52 And I'm like, okay. I didn't want to drive together. He didn't say that then, though. Three hours in a car. This isn't about TC. It's about you. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:03 That will become more clear. Nothing personal. Do you want to drive with me? No, because I know you don't want me there. Okay. Well, you just, so you love company. I acclimate. If I was with Chappie, we talked the whole way down.
Starting point is 00:27:17 If I was with you, I wouldn't say. say a word. Steve Burline. And I'd be fine with both. Well, anyway, I ended up telling him, like, that I thought I was out of it, because his original reason he was asking me is because Jake is leaving at a time he does not desire to leave. Early.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And I said, okay, I guess so. And then, it turns out, Jake was leaving at the same time as me. So I said to him, I thought you were, like, then he told me that midweek. He's like, oh, Jake's actually leaving the same time as me. I was like, oh, okay, cool. I took that to me and I don't have to drive you. Then the day before, he's texting me, hey, we could leave him out. I'm like, I don't want, no.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Then I told him I don't want to, and then Jake gets mad at me, and he's like, hey. Well, it's important to note here. This isn't a four-year-old that somehow-it's important to note here. He is a 30-whatever-year-old man whose parents pay for his phone bill, and he has a car. Yeah. Unnecessary. Well, it is important to note that since DC, and I were going to the game
Starting point is 00:28:19 I was going to be driving TC back on Saturday because Dan was like I think I'm going to go home on Friday night so you're going to have to you know now I figure at this point we're splitting up the driving of TC in my head and then I get a text on Thursday night that says from TC that says hey can you pick me up
Starting point is 00:28:41 or not pick you up he didn't go that far he's like can I can I ride with you tomorrow and I said you know, that's fine, but if you don't mind me asking, what happened with Dan? And he just simply replied, Dan says he does not want to drive me. And I replied, all right, well, that's kind of some balsh. I don't want to drive you either. But I will, because now I don't really seem like I have an option.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You have the equipment. I told you on the phone that day. What if you just told him, I can't? You're going to have to drive yourself like a big boy. And you want to know what's funny, is T.C. is so ingrained in my life that when you said that to me, I said that out loud. And my wife just goes, because it's T.C. One of you were driving him. Like, she's just used to, what are you fighting this for?
Starting point is 00:29:33 One of you will be driving him. So, you know, but. Anyway. I win AirPods. It wasn't so bad. Yeah. He filmed me getting pulled over. That helps, see? That was actually really worthy because I didn't get pulled over.
Starting point is 00:29:48 So anyway, I drive down there. I thought the show was a lot of fun. It's very cool, you know, getting a lot of listeners together in San Antonio or all the different cities in Texas that we've done it. People are the best. So when I got back, oh, okay, as I get back, I realized, I didn't realize this until that night when I went to bed. but as you know I bring my own especially if you're in Texas like I fly with my own comforter in my suitcase
Starting point is 00:30:21 but if you're going to be in Texas I'm going to throw my pillow in the car too because I don't like a big giant fluffy I like my flat pillow that I've been mushing down what does that have to do with Texas it means that I didn't have to get on a plane I wouldn't take a pillow oh okay got it like if I'm driving somewhere I'm bringing everything
Starting point is 00:30:40 I'm bringing my aquarium hyperbaric chamber yeah I've got everything in the car right um swing oh honey i'm sorry there's not enough room for you everything else i got in the car the swing my jugs machine well i left my pillow at the Airbnb oh no my pillow that i've i don't know how many years maybe it's a decade old but it's like perfect you know yeah and even though we know the owner it's not i think it's too gay to ask for no it's not it's probably all stained and everything like it's get your pillow back. I don't know. I don't want to ask the guy
Starting point is 00:31:16 You're not going to find that perfect pillow ever again. Yeah, but now I don't know where it's been these last few days. I think it's more. I think it's more of, well, that's the G part. I think it's more that this guy hooks us up and lets us stay at houses that he owns for free. Yeah, here's to Ben. And now you're going to trouble his
Starting point is 00:31:34 day with, what is he going to do? He's got to ship it to you? Yeah, like, no. We did that for people at an Airbnb because they were paying us. I thought about calling Julie to see if she had left yet. And then I also I also thought that was wrong. Like I could imagine her husband, Kelly, like, wait, what? We're going to get Dan's pillow.
Starting point is 00:31:50 We have to veer off 15 minutes from our, and then 15 minutes. So we're going to lose a half hour because Dan likes his pillow. Your world's setup generally works great for you. It's very specific and tailored, but when there's a fail, you're in trouble. Because I can, you know, I don't need a pillow. Right. No, I, well, this is very exciting because guess now I have something because. Ooh, maybe a new gift.
Starting point is 00:32:14 To a certain age, you're like, hey, what do you want for Christmas? I don't, every, I buy, if I want something, I have it. Like, I literally do not want anything for Christmas. Right. That's tangible. Now, a little effort to. Sure. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:32:29 A little reciprocity. So I left my pillow there. Then when I drove back, I pulled a Joe Flacco. One of our favorite places to go eat is this canta ramen in Collieville. and I always order to go and I always have somebody else pick it up for me and you guys know me so I always order the exact same thing
Starting point is 00:32:55 and they know it's me because it is on the app but I will always order the vegetable delight with double shrimp because they actually do you want to add shrimp and I'm like yes and then I asked them in the comments They're like, anything else you need?
Starting point is 00:33:14 And I'm like, take the tails off the shrimp, please. And he puts thanks, exclamation points. Because I hate when you go to a place and you order shrimp and it's this real hot meal, but then it's got the tails on it. Yeah, that sucks. But it happens all the time. Yeah, I never really understood it. As a late in life shrimp.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So I thought if I just try asking, let's see what happens. And they do it. They just take it off. Doesn't hurt to ask. So I give them a nice, hearty tip. I'll give 20% tip, even if I'm at home. you know usually it's like more of a dollar or 10% if it's it to go so I sat down and ordered
Starting point is 00:33:48 and this is a they're very uh Asian they're I don't know what but so the guy took my order and I thought I saw a twinkle in his eye but then he goes back to the lady behind the counter and they're whispering and they're looking over at me and I think they know this is the guy like they know I'm the guy so much that once my wife went to pick up my order because one time
Starting point is 00:34:14 I decided you know what I'd like to try fried rice there instead so I did and when my wife got there they said we thought the order was wrong because it's this guy's name and email awesome that's great but we care about him so much he's so good he orders from us every week
Starting point is 00:34:32 he must have hit the wrong button so they didn't have my food ready and she had to sit and wait for it to be made it's customer service you'd prefer that. Yeah. Rather than some willy-nilly approach. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:43 That's true customer service. Some black rock company. Right. No, they're fantastic. Like, they just wondered, God, it doesn't seem, this isn't what he orders. But then they saw, they must have just, I must be an anomaly to order the same thing every time, like all that. And so then they were whispering and, like, I felt like a different weirdly kind of famous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I'm famous in that restaurant. Sure. And the guy, they finally saw him. Oh, this is. what he looks like. You're the shrimp tail guy. I'm the shrimp tail guy that orders double shrimp. They hate you. Maybe. No, dude, he's pumping
Starting point is 00:35:20 body into that. I'm having to take all the tails off every time. It doesn't matter. He's ordering a... You're there in the kitchen with them now. Like, do it there. You're asking for extra work. Don't... They're not a fan of you. If I order ketchup on the hamburger, don't give me a pack of ketchup on the side. You are standing with the hamburger with the bun open.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Put it on. You're asking him to to do more work than they're used to. But he's tipping, he's ordering consistently. They love me, dude. Everybody loves me. They don't see that and say, yeah, I'm happy to do this for this guy. Oh, they absolutely do. He's top shelf. All right, we need a sponsor right here.
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Starting point is 00:37:43 game day locations of Christmas over promise we're not going to do any of those things but yes game day Ben's health does bring you my uh my weekend check I'm going to start with a little a little bit of this yeah it's okay nothing works I mean you should have heard us at the remote on Friday. We didn't mention that part. We need you, Blake. Well, actually, I guess we don't. Let's find out what our kids are consuming
Starting point is 00:38:15 in the Dumb Zone Kids Content Corner. Woo-hoo! That's right. It's the return of the kids' content corner. Let me take a look at some of the influences and inputs that our kids are subject to. This is a Christmas edition, Dan, as the Christmas content is back.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So, by the way, where do you fall on that? Like, we won't put on the explicitly Christmas-themed stuff in the summer because we're trying to establish the run. I love that. I think I do, too. I don't like that you can watch a Charlie Brown Thanksgiving in May. Yeah, we don't let it happen. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Burks wants to watch Elf in April. I won't let him. Yeah, we've got some really annoying Netflix shows here. They're like Elf, based. they may be all related to the elf on the shelf like the lore and universe therein which those got launched this morning in my home oh no i'm a slave to that but that's the stuff we want to talk about here maybe political themes moral issues representation in children's content um and then other times we just asked the question are they trying to make dad horny i take you now to elf's pets a fox cubs christmas tale is available
Starting point is 00:39:33 on Netflix and you can just take an image a look at this image here of Miss Claws and tell me that they don't have a boob slider on these characters. She's unbelievable. They've just got a slider and it's in the middle for you know, and that's the second, I didn't even zoom that in. That's the next image in the show. Like just hefty,
Starting point is 00:39:55 hefty Mrs. Clause Mellons. I think this is a problem with you. And that's why I wanted it sponsored by Game Day Men's Health because I may just be getting too horny. Well, the thing, first of all, she's very hot. She's very hot and she's just absolutely... Her skin looks perfect for the age she is. Filling out that Christmas dress.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Her hair is well done. Whatever that is. Go back to the last picture because it's funny. It says she wants to... She wants a little friend from the North Pole. Yeah. Oh, she's laying it on pretty thick throughout. And Santa, of course...
Starting point is 00:40:29 I'll give you a little friend. It follows the Blake Jones. Very little. King of Queen's model. Santa's disgusting. It's not like they made him look like Vin Diesel in this adaptation. He's still a slob. And then he's just got like the most dime piece gilf of all time standing there.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And what I'm telling you is, male or female, somebody said at a computer and was like, give it more tits. Oh, yeah. It's not quite there yet. Yeah. And just kept going. What was your last one was how to train a dragon? You thought the dragons were putting down something. They were.
Starting point is 00:41:03 This is a problem with you. But again, that's why I wanted it sponsored by gay... I don't know. I think that's a thing they drop in for adults. Because Bugs Bunny, they'd have some hot bunnies on there, bro. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Lola does it. Back in the old days.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Until they woke Lola. Did they really? Yeah, that was a weird one. Well, they didn't make her fat, but... So when they did Space Jam LeBron, they turned Lola into, you know, a more of a 2008 W. NBA player. But the problem is at the same time that they were doing that, all the WNBA players started
Starting point is 00:41:39 getting like conventionally hot and dressing conventionally hot. So it's like, damn, dude, they just can't hit the target. So my trip down to Austin, I was with TC, that was listened to a lot of the game again. It was no problem. You just put on headphones. He had a book. So it wasn't as scary as you thought it was. was well good then you didn't want to do it either you shouldn't be upset you should be happy thanking me it's
Starting point is 00:42:08 true i got to enrich my drive down but then after the show tc and i had tickets to the game now initially i had purchased two tickets um maybe a month and a half two months ago they were i bought one for me and one for tc is just a gift they were not good seats but they were very expensive and then about a week out we were offered uh by the same guy who let us stay in his Airbnb for free. Two tickets, lower level, about 35 rows up, pretty much 50-yard line, like 45-yard line. And we jumped at that, and then we gave away our tickets at the remote on Friday. So that was a win-win for everybody.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Also a win for me when I tell you, don't jump the gun on buying tickets too early, man. then we wouldn't have any to give away. Yeah, but that turned into a mess, too. That was a debacle. Well. And it was your fault. Why? Because you had the tickets, and you're like, hey, we're going to give them away.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I don't know how. And then at the end of the show, you're like, here, Julie, you figured it out. I did say that at the beginning of the show. Then she had people. I didn't count on her. There were mad ladies. The imbibing. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Dudes. Two people were happy. I care about people. And I'm pretty sure the lady who was mad, not a listener. I don't know. She said she was listening driving down. You think that was fake? I do.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Interesting. But we'll see. I know the two people who got them listen a lot. Okay. Well, then good. And one of those dudes, one of those people, the male Tanner, he walked with TC and I to the game. And then he walked into his gate, and we kept walking to a gate where we had been told to meet our buddy, who is a doctor. in Austin. He's been on the show before talking to us about flared bases and all the things that
Starting point is 00:44:04 he's found in people's anuses. He's also like the head doctor for a lot of events that take place in Austin. You know, they have to have a doctor there for kids who drink too much and fall down and fight and these things, old people who fall. So he does that for a bunch of music venues and he does it for DKR, the stadium. And a couple years ago, he got me on the field briefly before the Alabama game. And I could kind of see how things work pregame. But this time, he had two passes for us to go down on the field during the game. Amazing. And I should just mention, and this is kind of weird as like sober guy who very much takes seriously, like addiction and, you know, alcohol nearly ruined my life and would again if I got back into it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I also think the medical community's opinions on things like psilocybin have changed over the years. There's a medical case to be made for maybe expanding your mind a little bit. I'm trying to thread a needle here, Dan, where I'm not saying like doing drugs is great. It can be a problem. A little bit of mushrooms. I don't think it's going to kill anybody. So we ate a little bit of mushrooms that were given to me whenever we were in Denver. Not too much, but enough to wear when, uh,
Starting point is 00:45:24 We walked out onto the field. This is two minutes into the game. Texas went three and out on their first possession. As you can see here, Texas is punting to A&M. We're in the corner of the end zone where A&M is receiving this punt. And I don't know who these other people are down here. They're either dignitaries or the kids of dignitaries. But suddenly we were standing on the field with 100,000 people there, like, in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, you're like five feet away from actually being in the end zone. Yes. So this was fun. I don't know what the next picture is there. Okay, so now we're... Was it cold? No. Pretty windy that night.
Starting point is 00:46:01 It wasn't too cold, especially down on the field. You're blocked by a lot of that, you know? This is from the other end zone where the Aggie core is just five feet to my left, getting ready for a half time. Oh, they had to take their long trek. They put, what's his name? CDC. CDC will put them up in the top corner of the... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:24 stadium. So now we're down here by the AP photographers and the core. To our right here is the cannon. We were standing right next to the canon for the most of the second quarter. We'd gone back up to our seats and then came back down. Wonder how you become canon guy, the guy that gets to fire. Well, you have to be a part of this group, which if we're going to be equal opportunity offenders. When I was a kid, I thought it was like the Texas hellraisers were kind of cool. They were in the student section and they would wear chaps and like they just looked like male cheerleaders, but they were not really affiliated with the team. They weren't on the field. They were just crazy guys. And you thought they were cool. I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:11 This is kind of that except these guys are on the field. These are Texas. They're analogous to the core, really, or to the yell leaders. And they look. cooler because they have like windbreakers and cowboy hats on but they also have leather chaps on which is very broke back and as i told a tc i said to tc while we were standing there they all also have earpieces in no one was ever intended to wear chaps in an earpiece at the same time like it's just in a cowboy hat yeah it looks but so you get you one of those guys is the canon guy you see mcana hay no Not where we were.
Starting point is 00:47:51 But we did see the last person, you can see in this photo of T.C. and I here, standing right behind us in that yellow hoodie, he had played one day before. That is Xavier Worthy, who is much smaller and younger. And I think I'm just old now. Because when I see an NFL player, I still expect them to look like a man. Xavier Worthy looks like a child, like who is hanging out after school playing Dragon Ball Z waiting on his mom to pick him. him up from after-school care. Like, he's not, he doesn't know how to dress like a rich guy yet. Like, we saw some other dudes, frankly, I'm just going to profile, they were definitely
Starting point is 00:48:31 athletes or athletes agents. And those guys who are like, I don't want to say my age, but in their 30s, they dress like money. And like, they look cool as shit. Xavier Worthy is just the guy. And the only reason we knew it was him is because three SEC frat bros, uh, who were in front of us, stopped him to take a picture. And then me, when I'm kind of on a little something, I stay to myself.
Starting point is 00:48:55 T.C. will walk up to anybody. Stick his mullet head in there and goes, who is that? They're like, that's Xavier Worthy. And you're wearing your Bitt shirt that you wore for the show? Yeah, college football shirt because I wasn't taking any rooting interest in the game. And, yeah, dude, we were just down on the sideline for a significant portion of the game. So one quick thing on the canon, I think I've told you guys this before, but I played an extra in a movie called My All-American
Starting point is 00:49:23 that was about the University of Texas football team when their quarterback got hurt. I forget the year. Was it a year that they had black guys or not? Don't remember. Because they were pretty late on that. Don't remember. But they had to bring that cannon to the Cotton Bowl during filming.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And so they had a guy, a Canon guy, who thought he was the coolest dude. It's like, don't get my, you know, don't get near the canon. Watch out, Bub. They're Danny McBride from Pineapple Express, not Pineapple Express, but Tropic Thunder. Sure. He thinks the explosions are what's going to make this thing. Yeah, very fitting.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And then, yeah, I had to wear the chaps and the whole bit. But it was pretty fun. Yeah, I'm going to guess since this says it took place in the 1960s, and there was really only one of those years where Texas had black players that somebody decided they'd make a movie about this. The good old day. that's a wild choice based on a Jim Dent book well there you go
Starting point is 00:50:26 you ever uh there's your cover well no have you ever uh you ever dug into his story we can do a full Kemp's spin segment on that oh wow he called into the musers one time whenever he was on the run in Mexico
Starting point is 00:50:39 Jim Dent has he wrote the life and times of Jerry Jones which is a book I bought I thought we've had him on no I haven't no he's been a dude he's been in it out of it if he's been on the run than I haven't had him on. He's got like 15 DUIs and spent a lot of time in jail, was on the run. I could be butchering details of this, but legit. He wrote The Junction Boys. The Life and Times of Jerry Jones is a book I bought that I want to give to you because it's way better
Starting point is 00:51:08 than even the documentary. It was written in like 94, 95. The 12 Mighty Orphans, the football, the Fort Worth. I don't know if you know about that team, Blake. But anyways, very interesting dude. And then, yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to think if I have anything else from the game. It was a wild experience, man. I have a piece of audio from the game. Okay. I'll just tell you. I got back at the Airbnb. It was a super fun game. I feel like Texas, the most frustrating thing for me about watching Texas, I erroneously said I don't trust Arch the other day. It said I don't trust or like Sark.
Starting point is 00:51:54 But I also think that clearly Texas has to play under the Manning's rule. Because if you watch Texas play for a full game, which I guess I've probably only done like three or four times this year, it's so clear that Arch is the best athlete on the field and could be making that offense work so much easier if he kept the ball 10 to 12 times a game. and it ain't happening. Oh, the Mannings don't want him to be a scrambling quarterback.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I promise you they made promises of like this is how we intend to use him. Interesting. We want to get him ready for the NFL in the way that you think NFL should be getting ready. And that's not to say they're not going to have any. Because even a running quarterback, you're trying to make them into a passing quarterback once they're in the NFL. Right. But I think Arch Manning reminds me a lot of Josh Allen. and maybe a better version but dude when he just puts his foot in the ground and goes
Starting point is 00:52:47 it's easy for him how many times do you take a guy who is your change of pace running quarterback the year before and then the next year when he becomes your starter or the next couple years you're like well we're taking that part out of his game but I mean anyways getting prep for the NFL is their number one
Starting point is 00:53:05 it is it makes it frustrating but you get it so Texas won obviously and I guess all the schools do this now but as soon as, and by the way, that's a freaking nightclub in there. I don't know how Rick Ross and Maybach music got affiliated with UT's football program, but it gets dark, but they turn the lights down and it is like club rap music like I've never heard before. They've bought into the like, we're the Lamborghini program.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And, you know, Sark wears that and dresses that way or whatever. So at the end of the game, right as it hits zeros, the screen cuts to a clip of Mike Elko, A&M's coach, saying, this is the premier program. And it is clear now that Texas A&M is the premier program in the state of Texas. And then in very TikTok or meme fashion, it was a quick clip of Tyler the creator, the rapper, just going, Sike! That was after the game? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 As soon as the game ended, it's Mike Elko. clip and then Tyler Sikek and then the beat dropped and the lights went out and it was effing mayhem. Yeah, that is awesome. And T.C. was like, I go to a lot of college football games. I can promise you
Starting point is 00:54:21 Notre Dame's not doing that. Yeah, no one is. Like just taunting. The guy's still on the field. Yeah. That sounds great. And then our exit somehow to walk back to Cane and Ables, there were two routes
Starting point is 00:54:33 the shorter one. Mileage-wise was through campus and, you know, a lot of people walk through campus, but I remember doing it when I was a kid but when we were walking out it was just us and students We were so
Starting point is 00:54:47 We were surrounded by 10,000 students Choked into little pathways Trying to get through campus Back to their dorms and apartments It was effing mayhem Loved it Loved every minute of it And then I just want to say this
Starting point is 00:55:01 I'm soft launching my new year today Join me It's a Monday It's the first of the month Get started on the 3rd things you want to do, Jan 1 today. Clean up those habits. I went to bed early last night.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I didn't snack. I made my broccoli. I went to Dan's house on Sunday to work, something I'd like to make a habit of. Why not start today? Get a little early work in. Go to the gym, do chess today. Like you would if...
Starting point is 00:55:32 Today's Monday. I like New Jake, but could New Jake become too annoying? You don't want a guy pushing you into... I'm just saying, I remember. I remember there was a time. It might have been last year on like July 1st. I don't have been. I know. Yeah. There was a time where you did something like this. There was like a, it might have been like July 1st or it was like the half year. And you were, you play. And I'm just saying it's you're rarely going to get a Monday, December 1st. And you do everything Dan does. Sure. So just just get in a little early. We had this last year. July 1st was on a Monday. That's what I think I was remembering. And he came in. I think you just did the, wasn't listening.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Okay. You're supposed to argue about it. Well, no, because he started on, hey, this soft launch, blah, blah, blah, and I kind of tuned out because he's on this kick. Yeah. I made my broccoli this morning. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely lost me in broccoli.
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Starting point is 00:56:54 It's their biggest sale yet. You can go to flooring direct dfW.com slash dZ. That's a dedicated website for the dumb zone listener. And I also just want to highlight, you know, again, we talked about it last week, the whole AI doomer thing, like are we even going to have jobs or lots? in a year, you can get 36 months, zero percent financing, new floors in your home for nothing down, nothing. Finances 36 months there.
Starting point is 00:57:20 So, I mean, you might not ever have to pay for these floors. You're saying if the world does end in two years. Why not have new floors leading up to it? Right. Very low cost to you. You want to just die lying on dirt? No. Or carpet without pad?
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Starting point is 00:58:10 because I heard this while watching college Halo recently. Go on. I don't even. Just let him go. Aren't all the kids in college in Halo? No, those are professionals.
Starting point is 00:58:25 This is like a legit... Yeah, they're 14. Yeah, professional 14-year-olds. Yeah. New Hampshire, whatever, has a Halo team, they played. I do remember seeing a 60 minutes about like Marquette having a video game team It's really pissed people off.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Like, I was on the racquetball team. It might be club. In college, but it was club sports. I had friends who did, like, Ultimate, but it's still extremely competitive. Yeah, anyway, I don't know. It was on. I was interested. The shortened word is getting dope or dopamine.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Well, that's already what it is. I know, but that's what, like, the kids are saying. Okay. They pulled off some triple kill or whatever they had getting dope right there. Okay. I like that But I've always taken dope To be a short for dopamine
Starting point is 00:59:13 Even though it then gets used for like Because when you're a kid you're like Oh dope means dummy And that's why dope is drugs But it's like dope is dope It's like that's good But if we're to do a full linguistics So dope being awesome is about dopamine?
Starting point is 00:59:29 I never took it that way I assumed it was because Yeah Yeah well Grandma would say yeah They call it dope because you're a dope if you smoke it. Well, that's because Grandma didn't want you to know
Starting point is 00:59:42 that if you smoke it, you're going to be happy as hell. That's right. Dopamine. Grandma hated you. So sound hip to your kids and say getting dope. Okay. These are helpful holiday tips. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Shout out to the 42 group. I got a picture in there. We played last Monday. If you're interested, email me. I'll add you to the list. We played at the Connie Roso in Carrollton. Had a really fun group. So we appreciate everyone coming out.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Sounds great. It kind of looks like the lady that was trying to win. win tickets so now it does actually yeah that would be Ava and that would make sense she went to A&M oh no she's a huge listener I think that was actually her I think that's her yeah wow she's into the show
Starting point is 01:00:20 so much she went to dominoes and I just trashed her dumb little yeah it's not dumb these are our listeners well I said the game is dumb not them I'm blaming Julie I'm sorry sorry yeah yeah now I owe her a football ticket well girls get
Starting point is 01:00:35 But, you know, they're jealous of each other, yeah. She's not going to give a girl with big jugs, the tickets. Anyway. That was the, he didn't just make that off-end comment. That was a stipulation for winning the ticket. That was one of, yeah, one of the brainstorming things, and how can we give these away? You know, biggest jugs is one idea, which obviously did not get taken. Because Julie was the...
Starting point is 01:01:03 Anyway. fans of the game 42 want to come play hit me up it's a fun time getting the people together sounds great connie roso yeah showing some sponsor love listener love just say it's awesome next picture we wore ties for thanksgiving i got burline and ted emmerc to wear ties and well received everyone thought we looked sharp you do and uh the game was cool post him alone horrible do you do a plaid tie with a plaid suit jacket. Don't you go plain tie? I've seen people do it. Like Foloel
Starting point is 01:01:38 does it and I'd never understood it but then he would kind of defer to like, yeah, but you know he's like a professional pick this which is true. That's what I was about to do. Those guys go to places and they tell So Followell didn't say I may have made a mistake. No, you're right.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I will also deflect and say that the guy said it's okay if you cross your lines. I don't wear any of that. It looked trippy when I looked at you. You'll never catch a, like this sort of pattern, a flan, like, I'm not. Jackets are sacred and shirts and ties, solids. I couldn't hear a word Post Malone said.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Now, maybe it's a bad angle, but that place is notorious for not being a good acoustic stadium for concerts. Yeah. So couldn't hear any of the lyrics of his songs, not that I could recognize it anyway. But even when he was addressing the crowd, I don't know, I thought it was horrible. They spent 10 minutes trying to get that dumb stage out there. He performed two songs and was gone. Yeah, I wasn't really all that in tune with it because I'll continue to make your weekend check about me because you weren't here on Friday. I watched the game with Kristen's family, which I've never watched a cowboy game.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I haven't watched a cowboy game with family in 10 years, dude. I just don't do that. But it worked out this way because I always had the post game show. So I was always at the station for these. You know, there was never an occasion for me to be watching with family. and she had some sort of, like, tertiary family members in who are from Kansas City. And the dude is a big Chiefs fan. Now, her family don't really care what I do at all.
Starting point is 01:03:21 They barely know. So he doesn't know or care at all, at all. And so he's, like, I'm sitting there, and I'm trying to keep to myself that I care about this game. but he's, you know, hey, you know, like, Brandon went out there and he's like, you know, this guy used to be a soccer player. And he's like saying things to me. And I forgot to even bring up on the show on Friday when T.C. was like, so they just didn't realize how cool you were. He was saying things about, like, Patrick and what he's heard about. I mean, I could have been like, you know, I've done like a commercial with this guy.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Didn't do that. Good. Just set there and acted completely. So the other thing is, you're training for keeping from us that you win the lottery. Yes. I don't personally know Post Malone, but as you'll learn Thursday night when my friend Brick comes to the stream, I feel like I knew about who he was when like a very small number of people did. I went to the show, he did at trees, and now they were talking to me like, hey, I think, you know, this guy, he was actually always in the country. He just kind of took a break to do the rap.
Starting point is 01:04:26 they're explaining the history of post malone to me and so i just was like i'm out dude i can't sit here and watch this i did see people online say it sucked but how can it be good it's a half-time show what does it get paid nothing you don't get paid for the super bowl no i bet not bro that's a straight tax write-off for him that's a donation of the salvation an army or some sort of foundation, which I guarantee you happens. You just get to perform and write it off. Interesting. But I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I mean, and he would do that for free. Legit. Well, this was on the heels of I saw Nelly in Vegas where... Can't compare. Well, as soon as... Speaking of mushrooms, I have a buddy who was at that game and had taken some and was like, at the Cowboy Raider game was like, and then Nelly walks out. But they had the stage ready.
Starting point is 01:05:21 It sounded awesome. Yeah, and then... Nellie's a pro's pro. Well, I think Vegas is just better suited for that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's good. And AT&T is not. They never have concerts. Well, they do, but...
Starting point is 01:05:34 It's always so shitty. The next day I had Argyle round three playoff action at Chalk Toss Stadium. Our game was at 2 o'clock. I followed along. It was a Prosper ISD doubleheader because we played, Argyll played Walnut Grove, and then Prosper played South Lake Carroll at 7. No, they didn't. They were supposed to kick at seven.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Because I got back to the hotel, because I stayed in a hotel. I got back there Saturday night at like 1230 after dropping T.C. off at the Airbnb, and I get out my phone. And the guy that I was following to keep up with Blake's game was like, here in the second quarter at South Lake, whatever. And I'm like, shit, I'll just watch this. And it was over at like 2.15 in the morning. What happened? Lightning. Yeah, weather came in.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And on our way out to the car, it started to drizzle. And we were all saying to ourselves, oh, glad we missed this. And, yeah, a four-hour delay. Really glad we missed it. But so since I've been doing... Think of the kids, Dan. There must have been so many lightning strikes on the field. Well, no, people were just, like, pointing out, like, why don't you just play this tomorrow?
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah. Venues were... Because we're all... Yeah, I guess that's true. You couldn't find a new venue. That was the reason. So, since I've been doing NFL games for half of... a season and I think I know what's what.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I'm now demanding that the referees give us enough time for our commercial breaks, which is not gone all that well because they're not used to it. You're high school refs? Yes. And so we have a pregame meeting with them. We're like, hey, look, we need a minute and 15.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And I don't know, it just... So I hired a big gun. I got my dad out there. I said, here you're going to hold this parabolic mic, and then during the breaks, I want you out on the field telling them that they can't start until we're back from our commercial break. That's fantastic. You got your own Dom. Yeah. And so that was awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:27 But it was cool. He got to kind of see what we do and he was on headset and it was cool having him around. That's awesome. And then I had a, you brought this up a few months ago. I think you called it the kids are going to be all right because they were mocking Norris sandwich. Bullying sometimes helps moves your kid in the right direction. Yeah. My submission is that we had our Thanksgiving, her family's thanksgiving on Saturday. And when the rain came in, all the cousins and kids played in the rain.
Starting point is 01:07:58 I thought, you know what? Kids might be okay. Getting that dope. Yeah, getting the dope. And then lastly, I finally had a weekend with Brooks again for the first time in a long time. And he's officially reached the age and skill level at Halo to where we can play together. And so we have begun on the Halo 1 campaign. We're about halfway through Halo 1, playing on Heroic.
Starting point is 01:08:22 How old is he? Four. So Heroic is the one underneath legendary, and he's good. We time it up. There's a two-person option? Yes. It's interesting watching a kid who was born so squarely in the, you know, the technology that we have now.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Right. You know, because even my kids, when they were born, there was no iPhone and then there became one but now like I see little Brooks come over he's got an iPad share the Wi-Fi with me he zips around that thing
Starting point is 01:08:59 like with more dexterity than my wife does with her iPad yeah and my wife spends a lot of time on her iPad playing games and watching shows but this guy is zipping around yeah passwords this and that he knows a deal
Starting point is 01:09:14 yeah I think I've told this story like he was downloaded movies. When he first started playing, I think I said this, you know, I'd have to set it up to where, like, he couldn't die, infinite ammo, shows the enemy location and all that. Then I realized, like, this is not my dad who's never going to get it. This kid can get it. Yeah. So I just said, do this, do this, and then he's slowly begun to figure it out on his own. But us playing together, like, there's strategy now, and he's understanding the story of like, hold on, wait, we're going to shoot this big guy together. Three, two, one, do it. And teamwork. Like, you know how you said,
Starting point is 01:09:47 When LeBron James, when Brony was four, we said we would have, I would take a 20, whatever, first round draft pick and just use it on Brony when he was four years old, right? Just, why not? Take a flyer. Would you take something on Brooks to be a professional gamer? I would take him over the field. Yeah, I mean, his dad is a... Over your kid. An aficionado, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Just that I feel like Blake is going to expose him to this stuff. He's going to go to tournaments. Right. He's been to tournaments. Already. Yeah. Whereas I'm like not. Your kid doesn't know that exists.
Starting point is 01:10:27 No. And you're going to hope that he doesn't. You're going to try and keep him from it probably. Jake's got a little Brian Bosworth in his house. Yeah, but like I don't even know. Like I don't know. I think I was actually, I think I was good at video games. Maybe that was a misperception as well.
Starting point is 01:10:43 But I used to like, I played like in Madden tournaments because I could. beat my friends like so i would go i played it like a don pablo's for a king of the couch tournament played at the best buy yeah um but i don't know that my kids like seem like they would be good at it like nor is not like itching to play the switch i bought a year ago she has very little interest in it it's because you're not into it that's probably it yeah so yeah i think blake's Blake's kid could probably get a scally. Yeah. For Halo.
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Starting point is 01:12:55 One-Day doors and closets. From the wonderful world of sports radio sports scoreboard. Oh yeah, I like that. I was laughing. at this one, watching the Aggie game, the
Starting point is 01:13:13 Longhorn game. I guess your doctor buddy might have got on the field for this, but the Aggies had a player who got hurt early. I think it was the first quarter. But they stopped things down, and the play by, or excuse me, the color commentator was like really going overboard, but
Starting point is 01:13:33 like he said it a few times, probably even in this but leading up, he was on the for quite some time. Oh, this makes you sick. This makes you sick. This is just terrible. And then they showed, like, the kids' parents in the stands. And, you know, the dad and the mom.
Starting point is 01:13:51 And then they go back to the field. And they're going to give you a comment on the parents. And I thought this was kind of funny. I wanted to see what you thought about it. A little, too, like the knee just awkwardly going a little bit. God, I'm just sick to your stomach about this. He's had such an amazing year. The Aggies just hope he's okay.
Starting point is 01:14:19 His dad, a major influence, as you might expect in his life. He told us Marcel a funny story last night. He said when he was in high school, he asked his parents to go separately, drive separately to the games because he didn't want to drive home with his dad because he just thought if it didn't go well, there might be a little too much information and critiquing on the ride home. Hey, here's a funny story. His dad was really abusive. Sounds healthy.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah. He wouldn't even, he wouldn't want his parents to drive together because his dad would be up his ass so hard if he didn't play well. Rewling the PSA we played last week. Right. Yeah, we had to play for not being too hardcore with your kids. Yeah, that's brutal. but hey you know what dad thinks
Starting point is 01:15:09 I was right look Scully I got a I got him here oh I got a shoddy you guys want to hear a shoddy sure let's see I got to pull it up because I made a drop
Starting point is 01:15:24 out of the other part of it this is called count the bingos I'll give you one of the bingos because it was a drop at the end Shotty Oh wait No that wasn't it
Starting point is 01:15:37 Where's my Shottie drop Oh here's the Shottie drop That was my Shottie Nance drop But here's my other one That's now on the bingo card Oh a nice cocky sniff Cocky sniff
Starting point is 01:15:50 Yeah So in this one Somebody had asked about The new players coming in and Shottie getting to know the new players Like as people Not as players
Starting point is 01:16:02 So do you think Shottie He loves, he loves answering that. And count the bingoes. Okay? Remember, sniff is a bingo, and it will be at the end. Yeah, well, again, you know, one of the things that we do here is, you know, I'm a family first guy, and one of the things we do here on, you know, Saturdays the day before the game of home games is we have the families come up and they watch walk through and they
Starting point is 01:16:23 actually get way better access than you guys do. You know, sorry, not sorry. But, you know, and again, I walk around and I'm trying to be, you know, as intentional about it is possible, but, you know, my wife is great. She tries to reach out and some of the position coaches. But it's been a lot of moving parts, but I'm always going to check on those guys. And quite honestly, you know, when some of the things, you know, happened with Marchand, I've reached out to the guys that are no longer here,
Starting point is 01:16:52 and I want to check on them as well. Why? Because I love them. I care about them. Just because they're not here, doesn't mean I don't love and care about them. Oh, good grief. That was a nice one. That's the current coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:17:07 So he's texting Deuce Vaughn to make sure he's cool? Why? It sounds like it, yeah. Texting players who aren't here anymore? And what was the part about his wife and the position coaches? Like, trying to get people together for... I don't know. It's obviously...
Starting point is 01:17:28 But that's the current coach of the Dallas Cowboys. The former coach of the Dallas Cowboys, Jason Garrett, for some reason, was doing color commentary on the... Was this Thanksgiving evening? Yeah, it was Ravens Bengals. My Triple Play, which went up in all kinds of flames. So Collinsworth, just like, I don't want to work Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:17:53 You know what? I want to prove Aaron Andrews wrong. If you get to a certain level, you could just say I'm not working Thanksgiving. Apparently. So they get Jason Garrett in there. And if you think Mike Tariko and Chris Collinsworth is not good, you should try Mike Tariko and Jason Garrett.
Starting point is 01:18:15 And another twist here, we're going to get to Garrett telling a story. And he may be America's worst storyteller. Yeah. But they're coming out of break showing clips of John Madden eating turkey. and I thought this was just a Fox or I don't know it this is an NBC broadcast
Starting point is 01:18:40 but every broadcast is talking about how great John Madden is now Jim Nance will will sicken you with this like I said this Friday Blake Jim Nance is making me hate
Starting point is 01:18:56 Thanksgiving and John Madden two things that I thought you could love forever, but Jim Nance is like, oh, like he, oh, John Madden. Look at it. Look at him there. Look at that video.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Oh, what a coach. Anyway, here is they're coming out of break with some John Madden stuff. This is a turduckin right here. You know what a turduckin is? It's a deep-boned chicken stuffed in a deep-boned duck stuffed in a
Starting point is 01:19:27 deep-boned turkey and two kinds of dressing. And you see, you cut it Like right down here. Some things just go together greatly. Most didn't know what a turduckin was until John made it world famous, right? It's such a great part of Thanksgiving. We'll have our presentation of the turkey legs and the MVP of the game, John Madden MVP of the game. So every station has the John Madden MVP?
Starting point is 01:19:58 Yeah, it was confusing. we're not doing that just for yeah no because you know now everybody you get to say i won the john madden MVP if you're like how many of the we're going to have six of these a year and everybody wears the patch now so every every team that plays on thanksgiving regardless of what game you're playing in you wear the madden patch okay i don't like it i don't like it either all right this john baden thanksgiving celebration coming up after we are done 29 14 which went to the end End zones, touchback. Turkey leagues been going on for generations, and I've got a guy with me who has won a turkey leg. You did when you filled in and beat Brett Farf, and there you were. How about that?
Starting point is 01:20:42 Turkey leg, huh? That's a few years ago, 1994, and it was a great day for us. We had a heck of a team back there, and those guys all bailed me out, but I did get a John Madden turkey leg, and, you know, the story goes that I kept the thing for about 20 years. So take note of this. he's going to tell this story. You know, the story goes that I kept the thing for about 20 years.
Starting point is 01:21:05 You know, I had it in the freezer and 10-4th, and we finally moved. Look at this. You found it. This is the actual turkey leg? Oh, that's it, right there. Are you kidding me? It's not. It was mold all over this thing.
Starting point is 01:21:15 And finally, we've got to get rid of this. But you kept it for 20 years in the freezer. Yeah, how about that? Do you believe it? Oh, my God. Okay, so we just heard the story, right? There was mold all over, and he kept it in the freezer for 20 years. Yeah, and we heard the story.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yeah. Let's just keep going through the play. That's why Isaiah lightly, the 40-yard line. So tell me the rest of the story. You hold this. You're a pretty memorable day. Okay, so now we're going to get the rest of the story. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:21:44 For me, and I'm like, hey, I got a John Madden turkey leg. You kidding me? I folded up just like this, and I put it in the freezer, and we moved. And we're cleaning things out, and I'm like, what is this? Years and years later, it was the turkey leg, and too many things were growing on it. My wife would let me keep it. There was no rest of the story. He just told the same thing.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah, really not even longer. There was just kind of a... Maybe you can freeze this for the next 20 years. We'll all sign it for you. The whole crew. Oh, what great chemistry they have. Good God. Doing it that day.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Third down here. What a great story. Also, Sarah Silverman. Sarah Hepelah is joining us now, too. She just walked in. Our Sarah, not to our knowledge, a user of blackface. It was to show that it's hard to explain. You don't like how I condensed the story 20 years later and make it Sarah Silverman's a racist.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Right, it's hard to explain, but actually she was really on the good side. Okay. And I can say gay and all that. Hi guys. No mold. You don't get mold on something in a freezer, right? That would not happen. I would not think so.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Certainly ice builds up on it. Yeah. I've heard him tell this story before, though, as a chronicle of Jason Garrett's four stories. This is one of them. Strawberry. For sure. This. He's got one about Billy Jean King that he likes telling. That was a weird invite to camp. Boy, the boys are really fired up. I'm not saying it's not a great story, but I don't know. I know, but you're 23-year-old black kid.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Joseph Dunbar. And, hey, don't get too excited, but here's Billy Jean King. Wait, Joseph Randall or Landstone Bar? They're the same person to me. They're not. End of roster running backs. Anyway, Sarah, how's it going? Good, it looks lovely in here. I love the holiday twinkle.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Thank you. My mom did it. No. Yeah, she does this sort of thing for a profession. It's darling. Did you have Nancy Sank Shottie and you're keeping it? it from us. Have we heard that? No, that's new. Okay, because it sounds way funnier when he says it.
Starting point is 01:24:03 That's very fellow kids. Yeah, I can't remember which one it's from. Shotty. He was just talking about, I mean, oh, they might have been talking about Marty. Listen to Romo here when they first start talking about Marty. Hey, guys. Now, this also is going, this goes nowhere. This is Jim Nance.
Starting point is 01:24:24 He knows Marty was. the dad of Brian and but we have to make note of it because we have a picture of them on the sideline together so let's talk about that and listen to Romo's reaction when they mentioned shot
Starting point is 01:24:38 Marty Schottenheimer you know Brian Schottenheimer in his first year he has such strong ties the family to Kansas City there's his dad Marty, the late great coach Marty Schottnheimer
Starting point is 01:24:49 young Brian right along like I just want I would like hold on give me two bullet points Tony. Just dad, Marty, the late great coach,
Starting point is 01:24:58 Marty Schottnheimer. Incredible coach. Young Brian right along. Is he incredible? Really? All right. Yeah, I bet you think so, Romo. Give us a little something on that.
Starting point is 01:25:05 About the same. Yeah, because he got to the AFC championship game, like three times. Onside. They moved to Kansas City. When Brian was in his sophomore year in high school, he went to Blue Valley High School, the parents just loved living there in that community.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Strong ties. second at age what does that mean nothing is nance sick it doesn't mean anything strong ties and yeah unlike every other coach who they're like man he thought that place was a shithole
Starting point is 01:25:39 he couldn't wait to get out of there like oh they just loved it really built some just some deep deep bonds all right i got to play one robo thing before we go uh this has been driving me crazy for a few days this is the third quarter when the Chiefs were flagged for an offensive pass interference.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Now, to Romo's credit, Mahomes, Andy Reed, and Matt Nagy looked pretty pissed. Do you remember this play, Blake? They called an offensive pass interference, and Romo immediately is like, but that's not a pick play, because the receiver who was flagged did not contact the other receiver's defender. He contacted his. But he ran right the fuck into him, tackled him, and Romo doesn't know the rules.
Starting point is 01:26:24 They should pick, they should pick this up. This is not offensive pass interference, which I think they're going to call. By the way, sir, he's now the cookie monsters. That's interference. Offense number one. 10-yard penalty from the previous spot. Third down. That wipes out a 14-yard completion.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I think this is wrong. Watchworthy. He's just going to run up, and they're calling this a pick. The guy guarding him, he runs into the guy guarding him. He doesn't pick the guy guarding Hollywood Brown. I hate to be pedantic here before we hear from Gene, but imagine a regular pass play where your guy's guarding you, no pick and tension, but your decision is to just run into them and tackle them before you break.
Starting point is 01:27:07 That is the definition of offensive pass interference. The guy guarding the other guy, so I didn't pick him. Right, but the penalty is not called pick. Right. It's offensive pass interference. He runs into the guy guarding him. That is, he's like, listen, that's the guy guarding me. You know how many times I run into him?
Starting point is 01:27:26 Every play. Did you like that call, Gene? Yeah, you know what? Even though he's not the player guarding the receiver, Jim, that contact and separation is not legal in that scenario. Okay, here's Pacheco. Take a pass and coming up about six yards short. He's bounced out.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Yeah. They get back to it later, and Romo just does the, I still don't agree with it. And Gene's like, I'm the law. I'm here to tell you what the rules are. Romo, I don't know. I kind of see the chief's point. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:27:58 He doesn't know the rules. You can't block even on a screen. That's my point. You can't block everyone else. And Gene is making the very obvious point. Yeah, it doesn't matter, Tony. And I know this is a small thing, but he just flat at doesn't know the rules. If it's not something that happened in like the last year he was playing 10 years ago, he's lost.
Starting point is 01:28:20 We lost. We lost. There is one other sports story that's interesting, and I think we could explain it to Sarah, too. And it could be brought to us by Qualus Roofing. They sponsor all of our... Does anyone have to pee? I'm fine, but we're way into overtime here. Way into overtime? It's 1257.
Starting point is 01:28:45 I do, but I really am thinking about Qualis Roofing. We're trying to give us some love to one of our... best sponsors, like the original. Yeah, I mean, I know what I know about them is they don't like people walking around having to pee and that they'll take care of your roof for you, especially with these storms, Dan. You can have people come by knocking on your door, soliciting. That's right. Qualis can take care of that for you.
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Starting point is 01:30:16 plugs are. Never heard a bad word about them. For real. And I'd tell you. All right, well, now after that, I thought your spot read was a little long, and now I have to pee. I have a Buddhist monk friend who was running, and he was running, and he was running and running and running, and he was running as fast as he could run. He was running, or he didn't know why he was running, but he was running fast, and he was running and running. He looked back behind him.
Starting point is 01:30:43 There were lions and tigers chasing him, getting closer and closer and closer. His lions and tigers are breathing down his neck, and he's running as fast as he can. He looks back, they're closing on, they're gaining on. Next thing you know, he finds himself standing over the edge of a cliff. He's taking a breath. He looks back behind him. These lions and tigers are gaining on him. He looks out over the edge of the cliff.
Starting point is 01:31:01 There's a hundred foot drop with snakes slithering down below. Looks back, lions and tigers, looks out over the edge of the cliff. Snakes down below, 100 feet down. He goes over the edge of the cliff, and he's falling. He's falling. And as he's falling, he looks up and sees the lions and tigers. He looks down and sees the snakes. Up lions and tigers, down he sees the snakes.
Starting point is 01:31:21 you know he grabbed onto a branch hanging out the side of the cliff. He takes a breath. He looks up with the lions and tigers. He looks down and sees the snakes. The branch starts to get a little shaky. He looks at the base of the branch. There are three rats gnawing away at the base of the branch. He looks up, he looks down.
Starting point is 01:31:37 He looks at the rats. And then for some reason, his eyes are drawn to the other edge of the branch, receives the most beautiful bushel of the strawberries has ever seen his life. He becomes completely mesmerized by them, reaches out, and he devours him. It's my story. What do you think? Pretty good? You're listening to The Dumb Zone.
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Starting point is 01:33:02 The Jason Garrett's story there once told by the great con on King of the Hill. It's a Buddhist story. Not a watcher of that show. I've never seen it. Man. Are you watching the reboot? Isn't there a new one? I don't really have many TV hours these day, Dan, but Clayton said it was good.
Starting point is 01:33:25 T.C. said it was okay, I think. I started watching the thing. The first run of it is you should see. It's very good. What's the old-timey president show that we were told to watch? Death by lightning. Have you seen it? Yeah, it's really good.
Starting point is 01:33:40 I've seen the first two episodes. What do you think? Great. Yeah. I love the main guy. Who's the president? In James Garfield, but it's Michael Shannon. Michael Shannon.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Did you know he's in Groundhog Day? Yes. Oh, you did? No. Oh, I thought I'd like discovery. Are you Groundhog Day fan? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Yeah. And that's why I answered so strongly in the affirmative, but then I was like, no, wait, where? What is? You won't recognize him. So I was watching Groundhog Day a couple years ago, and I saw in the credits Michael Shannon. And I'm like, whoa, is that the guy from Boardwalk Empire? Wasn't it Boardwalk Empire?
Starting point is 01:34:20 Yeah. Anyway, then I had to go back and find he's very young. He is newlywed. And Bill Murray gave them wrestling tickets, I think, on his perfect day. But he's very young. If you squint, you can, yeah, that is kind of him. But I guess as he aged more, he got even more, you know, his features became more pronounced. Like he's, obviously you couldn't.
Starting point is 01:34:44 You can't miss him. Yeah, I think Michael Shannon was someone else. He's great. Really creepy. Nick Offeran plays Chester Arthur, a very drunk Chester Arthur. And Matthew McFadden from Succession. Love him. Love Tom Wams.
Starting point is 01:35:04 He's a little over the top in it. A little over the top. But I think that's what he's supposed to be. Yeah, and I mean, all those guys were just hammered, like, and in charge of the world. So, like, I don't know that they were ever, or not at the world. world, but America. Like, they were all crazy over the top, right? In real life?
Starting point is 01:35:21 Okay. Yeah. I mean, I don't think people knew what they were doing, like the public. It does seem like a wild time. Incredible beards. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't realize, and it must have been because you don't have, you know, the greatness of Harry's razors or something like that, right?
Starting point is 01:35:39 Back then, everybody had beard. I thought the beard thing was kind of new. Like the last decade or 15 years, we've seen the overbearding of America. Right, but it was all like a recall to that post-Civil War time, you know, when a man's beard really showed you his masculine valor. Yeah, and I think about that sometimes, too, with my general take is that irony is dead. Irony. and like I have a mustache right now
Starting point is 01:36:12 and it got me thinking it looks kind of like my dad's mustache but then like when my dad had a mustache in the 70s was he trying to look like something from the 40s? Like was there some wave of hipsterism? I think he just thought it was badass. I know but where does that begin and end? Like where you're like trying to be something else
Starting point is 01:36:31 to be funny or just like I don't know. I'm sure his dad didn't like it. Right? The mustache thing is interesting. because it, you know, my understanding is that the reason it becomes such a deal in the 70s is that cops are not allowed to have beards. They can have mustache. So my dad had cop regulations at UPS.
Starting point is 01:36:52 And there's a lot of similar, exactly, there's a lot of similar regulations. And then porn because they're kind of trying to play on law enforcement. Ah, okay. I mean, use the mustache. Like authority. It looks dominant. Okay. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:37:07 How do you like that one? I mean, dude, I'm ready to bend over. We've discussed Blake's mustache. Oh, you've seen Blake's mustache? He had it the last time I was here. Oh, okay. But we haven't talked about Jake's mustache. The sidecar mustache.
Starting point is 01:37:23 This is not the main attraction. And I thought about, like, in my, this isn't a front to Blake. But Brandon Aubrey said you guys should all get mustaches and the Cowboys haven't lost since then. And I employed the Gabe Kapler theory. which is Do you remember he When they were doing like a moustache one year
Starting point is 01:37:42 One of his players Just had a beard And Gabe Kapler stood up for him And he said well actually Kind of a square rectangle There is a mustache in there Yeah So I did not lie to Brandon Aubrey
Starting point is 01:37:57 Because I would never So technically all of you have mustaches Yes Yeah Free ride So they say. Is that something would be a good pickup line for Sarah Heppala? I don't think that's a good line.
Starting point is 01:38:14 If somebody had offered that at some point? Not a good line. I bet a hammered Sarah over and like, hell yeah. I'm from Texas. I'll ride it. Anyways, Lane Kiffin. What do you know about that, Sarah? Hey, I read the book.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Oh, yeah, Lane Kiffin. Do you know who Lane Kiffin is? No, I just saw this on, I just saw this on Twitter. I think like Mike Ducey was talking about it. Who is this? He is the new head football coach at Louisiana State University, LSU. And previously, like two days ago, he was the head coach at Mississippi, Ole Miss. He's got a bit of a checkered past.
Starting point is 01:38:55 He doesn't really ever leave anywhere on good standing. Like every program he's ever worked for is like, man, that exit sucked. A bit of a self-destructive history, whether it's ladies or what. I don't know. He's a drama queen. But the controversy is that unlike where U&T's head coach just got hired by Oklahoma State. So that's a clear step up. He's going to be making from one million here to five million there.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Oh, my God. Changing conference, changing everything. That's not really viewed as like he's shitting on U&T. He's taking a better job. They're going to let him coach to the rest of the year. Oklahoma State's cool with it. UNT's cool with it. This is a case where Ole Miss, the team he was coaching,
Starting point is 01:39:47 is going to make the playoff, the college football playoff. So they're going to be in. They have a chance to win a national championship. They've won 11 games and lost one. They're in the SEC, which LSU is also in and LSU by way of being a bigger brand and being able to offer a little more money
Starting point is 01:40:08 like this is the difference between 9 and 12 million although Ole Miss may have just matched at the end he's leaving and he's leaving right now college coaches don't have non-competes they don't even really have to honor their contracts ever they just can leave and if the other school is willing to pay the buyout to their previous employer,
Starting point is 01:40:30 their contracts are worth nothing. And so this is the first time we've had a guy. There's always like the, oh, you're leaving the program high and dry because you recruited these kids. And that is somewhat valid, although maybe less so now because these kids are professionals
Starting point is 01:40:44 and paid like it. But we've never had a coach just in the middle of the most important part of his team season, just leave to go to a rival of the state next door, really not that much better of a job, just a different job that people think is cooler, and he's taking his staff with
Starting point is 01:41:03 him as this other team is just like on the doorstep of the most historic season in modern Mississippi history. So it's like a really dick move to do the team. Yeah, but the thing is, he said, I want to stay and coach. And the Ole Miss Chancellor in AD, you could say that this is hubris but also just they need to get on to their next thing they're not letting him they're like look dude if you're going you're going don't let the door hit you oh wow so they have an interim head coach several staff members will be gone you know they gut it it's basically going to gut their coaching staff at least on the offensive side as this team tries to win a national championship which they have a very real chance of doing it's not it's not the normal stepping stone
Starting point is 01:41:53 type move and he drug it out over like three weeks and now it's just a huge huge mess and who's the new who's the new coach the defensive court a guy he's leaving behind gotcha um but yeah what it gets to really the reason like there's a lot of rules about college players and transferring right like they they've tightened it up a little bit then the window now starts january 2nd where used to you had to do it like even earlier than that that. You had to declare you were leaving, like, in mid-December when the season was still going on. That's a mess. But now it's January 2nd. However, the playoff is still going on at that time. But there's rules on how many times a player can transfer, when they can transfer. Can
Starting point is 01:42:39 they transfer when a coach gets fired? They can now, but they only have 15 days to do it. It used to be 30. And that 15-day clock doesn't start when their old coach gets fired. It starts when a new one gets named the permanent head coach, not even an interim. So there's a lot of rules about the movement of players. There's no rules about the movement of coaches. Huh. Like our, I think our perceived take on non-competes is probably known, given our legal history. But that was really more about the scope and the breadth of non-competes and applying them to
Starting point is 01:43:15 like sandwich artists at Subway or, you know, not competing for. for advertisers. College coaches appear to have the most uncaged, like, contract situation in the economy. Like, I don't know that there's another one we hear of where it's like, well, I signed a 10-year deal for $10 million, but in year five, someone offered me 15 so I can just take it. The new employer will just pay my way out of it, and that's it. Is it that the incentive to get the best coach possible is so great at these schools that they're willing to kind of give them this kind of long leash?
Starting point is 01:43:50 Yes. And the problem or the, you know, the gift and the curse here is no school wants to change the rule to where you would have to stay because they want to be able to go poach on their own right. So you'd have to have the biggest schools agree to do it. And they're the ones who benefit the most from it. So they never will. That's what we're told about like even our non-compete or whatever, like other radio stations in town. Even though it was clearly not whatever, you know, like they wouldn't want to help you eradicate the non-compete. It works well for them. Because they love it.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Yeah, we were told that. But the incentive with college programs is just that there's so much money, I think, that we have zero idea about. Yeah. The incentive is just money. because they have, I mean, they're like Aggies, we're paying Jimbo, what, $50 million to leave? Yeah. So if you are just that willing to quickly do that
Starting point is 01:44:55 and then hire another coach, we can't even fathom what the money must be. And I think this is just horrible. By Lane? Yes, by everybody. by LSU and buying him out. Just the fact that it is so wild like this. Like a 10-year contract,
Starting point is 01:45:24 you should have to honor it on both sides. And I know I want to be pro-labor as much as we can. No, but there is a degree of, yeah. But there's some kind of, it's ethics too, right? It's morality, maybe not morals. It's more ethics that just, yes, I sign a 10-year contract with you and we talk about different gives and takes with a really long-term contract. Generally, that would mean, well, I'm going to have the faith that you're going to be really good for this long, but I don't have to pay you as much. We've seen it like in sports, in Major League Baseball or something, you know.
Starting point is 01:46:07 if you want just a two-year deal we'll pay you more per year but if you want a longer deal just because you may you're introducing a lot more risk something could happen we'll give you less per year that doesn't even happen
Starting point is 01:46:21 no there appear to be no market forces mitigating their deals at all but yes in the coaching ranks it's insane and what we've seen this turn into is that teams if they even kind of
Starting point is 01:46:37 think we might not be wanting this guy at the end of the season. Think of James Franklin with Penn State. Let's be too early than rather than too late. Let's get rid of him like firing him because we can now go look and try to hire somebody. Like that's why I think coaches are getting fired midseason left him right now. That hasn't happened before. and the thing where you can just go to another school and just poach them shouldn't exist. If that didn't exist as an option, I don't think you'd see as many coaches fired so early. No, and the only way it wouldn't exist is if there was an NCAA-wide agreement, right? Like in the NFL, you can't just hire someone else's coach.
Starting point is 01:47:23 No, you can't even interview for, I mean, you've got to get that approved and it's got to be a, you know, the lateral move or, or, you know, Step-up, move rules. And they're all still making tons of money and they're feeling good. Yeah. It's, uh, I think Lane Kiffin is an easy target. Um, he's just, he's just, he's abrasive. He's abrasive. He likes it.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Like he, he likes being bad at PR and making that his image is that I don't give a fuck, right? Like he's done this before to other schools. Yeah, he had, I got an argument with a reporter the other day that called him a ho. Because the guy had written like, you know, in the, in his piece, like you can't turn a hoe into a housewife, meaning like Lane Kiffin does this everywhere he goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:08 You really shouldn't be surprised. Dan's always quoting the secretary. Like, oh, you left your, you left, this guy left his wife for you and now you're shocked that he continues to fool around on you. But he's, this is a symptom. And I think a lot of times sports or otherwise,
Starting point is 01:48:28 we get very mad at the person that has to be like the face of the symptom because we don't really know how to get mad at the real thing and the real thing is that college athletics are a fucking racket that the people you'll never know their names of are making
Starting point is 01:48:43 all of the money on and that you don't know you don't see them right but they set this up to where this can happen and the reason they do is because it helps them keep the athletes down so the reason that they don't
Starting point is 01:48:58 have some sort of global thing unified thing is the NCAA which would allow them to put enforcement in on the coaches is because that would make it way easier for the players to unionize and get more and more. They would become employees eventually. So the very thing that they use to keep what the bulk of their labor down, the athletes, opens a space where the coaches have no,
Starting point is 01:49:26 because the coaches get to act like professionals. The players are treated like this is, amateur athletics. It's a wild, wild scene. And I don't, he's an easy guy to be mad at, but everybody would do the same thing, dude. I know that's the thing about morals and ethics. That's subjective. A contract's not.
Starting point is 01:49:45 But the contract's only worth as much as they're willing to enforce it. And I just think most people, if you were like, the common one this weekend was like, let's say you're a sports writer, you've done super well as a sports writer, you make 200 grand a year, another paper that's a little bit bigger. or website says, we'll pay you $2.75. Like, you're doing it 100 times out of 100. Now you have to introduce the playoff part of it. Okay, well, you had a big piece you were about to finish that they were counting on you for.
Starting point is 01:50:13 And they're like, well, you can either finish it or take the money, but it can't be both. You're going to take the money. Most people. That's before even getting into, like, does he just want to move? Like, I can't. Yeah, my thing is that. How can I judge that? I just feel like guaranteed contracts should be guaranteed on both sides.
Starting point is 01:50:30 and I don't think that's like that shouldn't be considered a novel take I agree with you it's just that in the world of college football what are you going to do you're going to be the one guy who's like well I think that this is probably I should follow this contract because that's morally
Starting point is 01:50:44 what would be right when none of your peers do you're going to be leaving a lot of money and a lot of resources on the table if you try to be the I'm against NFL player contracts too because it's not guaranteed both ways the player can't leave halfway through the contract the player's only recourse is to
Starting point is 01:51:00 hold out, and that creates a whole other bit of problems. But yes, the contract should just be guaranteed on both sides. But who's going to make that? They want to protect themselves, the owners. And the A.Ds, in the college case.
Starting point is 01:51:16 And what sucks, really, to wrap this up for at least today, is they're going to double the playoff. And once they do, this is going to keep happening more and more. Now, it won't always be Mississippi to Louisiana, like, These are both blue blood schools in the same conference, but it's going to happen a lot where some team decides midseason, either we have no shot at the playoffs, I'm firing this guy to get a start on the next one, or somebody like Tulane's head coach is going to be great and they're going to say, we have a chance to get into the playoff, but you want to hire our coach? We have to now decide whether or not we're going to let it.
Starting point is 01:52:00 College should just become a college coach, is basically what we're saying. They appear to be. Do you see, have there been any numbers on what they have to pay, or LSU is going to have to pay to buy them out? I don't know. I know what they're giving him, which is 12 a year, which is probably three times what the head coach of the Cowboys makes, by the way. Wait, what? Yeah. The Cowboys are notoriously cheap.
Starting point is 01:52:23 I do know that. Their head coaches are like bottom third, but college coaches now are going to be making more than all but the top two or three NFL coaches. There's so much money in it now. That's insane. It's an arms race. And they don't have to give it to the players. They don't have to give it to the players.
Starting point is 01:52:39 The players get a very small person. They get some, but... Okay, wait. This just feels really related to why college is getting so much more expensive. Yeah. There does... Because the arms race thing applies across athletics and, like, academics,
Starting point is 01:52:57 where you've never been... You can't go to a college campus now where half of it's not under construction. We're like, we're building the new, because we've got to put this money somewhere. Yeah, new spa. Well, they're in an arms race to attract. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Yeah, they've overbuilt colleges too. And, dude, we were at a listener's house last week. He goes to Alabama, or just graduated from Alabama, and his girlfriend moved there from Massachusetts to go to Alabama. And I just read some article about, like, East Coast kids, former Ivy League types who now just want to come to the South because of football, the sun, the amenities
Starting point is 01:53:33 that they can build because of football. Right, which that's the question of what are you doing in college, or what is college for exactly? Okay, so I had the experience Friday night where I'm standing on the sideline of a big time college football game, slightly left of center in my frame
Starting point is 01:53:49 of mind, and I asked the same question. I was like, why is this here? Like, it feels like this is, if you really want to get into my like this is just like a tool to create families because the economy needs successful males and females like we need it together like this is where people meet to have kids that's all the only reason this exists and then tc was like no this only exists because companies don't want to train their employees like the corporations that run america of course they want college tuition to stay like
Starting point is 01:54:24 they want to fund colleges and have people go to colleges. They train for jobs there and the company doesn't have to pay them. You know, in the same way the NFL loves college football because it's a training program that they're ready and sorted by the time they get to you. But I don't know. Either way, it's a uniquely American thing. I think you're both kind of right. But I think, you know, colleges started out as a way to, you know, learn your, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:54 law and doctors and things that needed that kind of advanced training. Yeah. But they expanded so much that now they're just, they're all, it's a money-making opportunity. Which maybe that gets us into our today and Twitter. How does this even get to then when your college sends you or calls you after you graduate and they want a donation? I mean, I can't say FU fast enough. I can't even understand it.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I know. Like, are you kidding? Why? And I didn't even. Because you spent so much money for college? Yeah. Yeah. Like.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Yeah. And his is nothing compared to like what he's paying for his kids. Oh yeah. My kid went to Clemson and they're going to hit her up. Like, oh, now you got a job. Can we get some of that money that you're making? Like, no, no, no. I thought we had a transaction here where you teach me enough to get a job and I pay you
Starting point is 01:55:48 lots of money for that teaching. Yeah. And now you want a donation because, well, Wouldn't have fun going to the games? All I can tell you is... And you wear orange? Never make the mistake of giving a small amount thinking, oh, I'm just... I do feel a little guilty.
Starting point is 01:56:03 I owe them something. I'm going to give them $100 this year. Because you will never hear the end of it. I've done it once, maybe twice, the U&T's grad program. And it's like having kids. You know, you think I'll get them something. They're going to be bitching either way. Yep.
Starting point is 01:56:18 If you think it's going away after you buy the one Luboo, it's not. The place I heard about when you're talking about people are moving from the East Coast and down to SEC schools, I actually heard Ethan Strauss and Mike Peska talking about that. Oh, two of my favorite guys. That's right. That are not in this room. Right. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:56:39 But we all know each other through one person. Ethan. Or Sarah. Oh. She's the one who introduced us to bus with them, if you remember. Mike Peska for sure. Great dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:50 And I wonder, though, the reason I asked about how much Lane Kiffin or how much LSU had to pay, because we do think about the schools that pay a ton of money after they fire their coach. Hell, Texas was paying a few coaches at once, I believe. But what about the schools that keep chasing that dragon, LSU, how much did they have to pay Notre Dame to get Brian Kelly? Dude, that's a great question. How much did they have to pay to get Lane Kiffin? Like, they're just...
Starting point is 01:57:20 And then how much do they pay, are they still paying Brian Kelly? Because they fired him. Yeah, they probably are, yeah. So what did they have to pay? But you do remember, that's like a legal thing. The gubna's involved. Oh, yeah. They may get an out on that where, like, they fired him for cause or something,
Starting point is 01:57:42 but it's a $54 million buyout that they had to pay Kelly to go away. $54 million to make their old coach go away to pay the, new one. And what did they pay to get Kelly in the first place? Right. Like what is the amount of money that they paid just to have the last, what is it, three or four years that he was there? It might have been $100 million.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Yeah. And they're like, yeah, well, whatever. And they think of it is. It's football. It just keeps coming in. Yeah, Brian Kelly, $53.3 million in buyout payment. Are we doing today in Twitter? Yeah, we should.
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Starting point is 01:59:41 Says the failing grade She received on an essay Where she cited the Bible Was a violation of her right to free speech. You hear this? You see this, folks? I mean, does she have any other evidence?
Starting point is 01:59:56 You're not, this is, you're new to this story? Yeah. Okay, I thought Sarah would know about this. So did I. I thought you're, uh, gender issues Google alert. Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop it. But, you know, that's an interesting story, but I, uh, I kind of called this.
Starting point is 02:00:12 But the story is, she's in a, uh, gender class. And there's a assignment where they're supposed to respond to an article about how people are perceived based on societal expectations of gender. She wrote in her article that gender role should not be considered stereotype. She cited the Bible to support her stance that eliminating gender in society would be detrimental, would put people farther from God's original plans for humans. She received a zero on that. assignment um from the professor who is trans okay what school is this again oklahoma okay um the professor told her you're supposed to be citing empirical evidence here like refer back to the articles we've covered like if you can find stuff in there that you
Starting point is 02:01:09 can work with do that uh she did none of that um the essay's been posted online and of course people are quick to be like, yeah, this just sucks. Like, you don't put I, the word I in these articles. It's a piece, a scholarly piece. But it's a red state. The universities are hot button issues right now. Gender, we saw the thing in college station where the Texas A&M student. Ultimately, the chancellor had to step down because of that, right?
Starting point is 02:01:42 because he had initially supported the professor and then Greg Abbott got the guy run so I don't I just want to say what a massive dork you have to be to do this not what I think college is about but maybe maybe it is but the point I wanted to bring up is just
Starting point is 02:02:06 her mom is exactly who you think her mom would be her mom's social media account accounts were found over the weekend and she's a she's a like a small town city council person who bills herself as a J6 lawyer influencer and podcaster and she causes all kinds of problems like in her community so this was a setup it feels like it's a whole thing this is like the gay cake the gay cake it's like the gay cake like that there was Actually, never any gay couple that wanted a cake. They made it all up to take it to court.
Starting point is 02:02:48 They sought out people that would be good for a lawsuit. Yeah. And that's what this feels like. It feels like lawsuit fishing. Which it's not entirely unheard of. Like, the law that made anal sex legal in Texas was almost positive a kite case or like a test case where they found two guys. It's Lawrence, right? Lawrence, Texas.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Lawrence versus Texas. And they know going in, like, these guys are going to be our test case. Like, we know. But this is. They do it with Roe v. Wade, too. I mean, they went searching for somebody that had a baby that wasn't going to be able to get an abortion. This is, this is not unusual. I just think it's weird to do it in college.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Like, that's what you're using your. It just feels like a lot of stuff has gotten real DIY, you know, like everybody's on their own activism beat. and they're going to all take it to the Supreme Court. That's a good way to put it, you know, because her mom definitely thinks, like, this is going to be, I'm Rosa Parks. I'm basically just Rosa Parks of Oklahoma. Now, because if you're that student, why are you in that class?
Starting point is 02:03:57 That's a very great way to just ground zero this thing. You probably took it to get pissed off the professor, write an article that would be covered by the post. Your mom could tweet about it. Like, now, if you were, were to do like the uh contrarian take because everyone's like her essay sucks it didn't do the assignment it didn't uh satisfy the rubric at all you probably could say like well that entire process sucks who decided that's how those college essays have to be written yes they've they've trapped you by saying
Starting point is 02:04:30 you have to refer back to empirical evidence in the scholarly journals well guess what none of those support her point yes so like by telling her you have to write this essay within the confines of this writing set of rules, they're already kind of imposing a little bit of an ideology or at least a framework onto you. But it's also kind of preparing you for having a job where they're going to do that to you. Right? Like, you've got to write like this. This is how we told you to write it.
Starting point is 02:04:59 It's not fucking freewheel it and hope your boss likes it. Most jobs is not going to work that way. What I have told my kids when they have a whole professors or something, somebody's treating them unfairly. There's a test. It's like, that is kind of part, yes. You know, you can't have your parents calling and trying to solve your problems. You're going to have to deal with problems and just figure it out.
Starting point is 02:05:22 And sometimes it really, really sucks. Like, it really sucks in that you have to take the class again or something. I don't know. But you're going to have asshole bosses in your life. And you either assimilate or you just get out. You don't work there. so yeah no and they're kind of trying to have it both ways here your thoughts sarah well this is why i was not a good college teacher because i mean i i
Starting point is 02:05:51 liked teaching college i taught memoir and personal essay at utd for a while and um the problem is is that i don't like rules i don't like rubrics i don't like teaching that way at all um students really do like structure and they like being told those things i couldn't do any of that If I had set out a rubric and then somebody had said, you know, fuck all this and and totally, you know, blown all the rules out of the water, but I still found the argument compelling, I would have given to that person a good score. Yeah. Because I find it really interesting. Like I, to me, I would value, like you guys are emphasizing rule following conformity. Fair enough.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Maybe that is what college is for. I would have, you know, preferred, you know, I like interrogation or. pushing, you know, standing up for something that is unpopular. Like, all of those are more interesting to me. And that is kind of what she's doing. It just, uh, there's this feeling of astro-turfing to it. But then again, I'm reading her motives there. Maybe this really does matter to her.
Starting point is 02:06:56 I wonder if the, uh, professor. And they, like you said, they knew what they were doing. The professor is trans, right? Mm-hmm. I wonder if they, they, Safe. I'm growing. We'll check it down.
Starting point is 02:07:14 We'll deny to fight another possession. I wonder if they would, if they had treated it as I know what this is, B plus. Or just something could you have diffused it? Because maybe they didn't see the play. They didn't recognize the playbook. But it's like, this is a setup. You want an F so that they, you can go to the media. and show how this is terrible.
Starting point is 02:07:42 But what if I give you something like Sarah said? This is for your thought-provoking. This is, you know, you didn't cover the reason you get a B-plus is because you didn't do these technical things. Right. That are right. But you did cause us to think here. And I thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Great paper. That would have been very smart. That's how I would have played it. But would they still have publicized that somehow? No. No. But here's what you have to, I think, I think we have to acknowledge. Um, unlike, you know, like, let's say us who are like, uh, great.
Starting point is 02:08:15 You know, I don't really know what's going on here, but I think we're pretty accepting to, to the changes in gender. Let's, I don't know, be smart about kids, whatever. That is not how this professor is living. This professor takes it as their charge to browbeat these dumbass conservative in their mind kids into their way of thinking like that's why they're teaching a gender studies
Starting point is 02:08:39 course in college like there are crazy crazy but there are people that I would say like that's a little too far in the way you're carrying that out on they're just the other side of this lady's mom they weren't going to just give a B plus this is their
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Starting point is 02:10:27 It's so wild. It was 16 when we were kids. Yeah. I even got 18 for most of my old. or my whole life well sucks to be you woke
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Starting point is 02:10:58 yeah sorry kids they have merch you can only look cool They have cool merch. You know, when I was in eighth grade, I had one of those inflatable Budweiser beer cans in my bedroom. Excellent. Why not?
Starting point is 02:11:14 It just strikes me as so strange. And my parents never asked, like, well, that's kind of weird. Like, it's, you're, what was your book about? And obviously. Obviously, my sweet parents are like, well, I guess the kids are just doing it now. I guess the kids just like Budweiser. Like because of that, remember the dog? Oh, Spud?
Starting point is 02:11:36 Spud McKinsey? I certainly had a, I had like a neon sign at one point. It was like, oh, he's in a band. That's cool. That's probably what people in bands do. All that. I had big posters of Joe Camel in my room. Yeah, I used to.
Starting point is 02:11:51 I bet you there were people who did. I was like seven. I used to collect Camel Cash. Oh, yeah. Turn that in? It was a big player. I was telling Dan the other day, my mom, who decorated, all this lovely lady uh she had a lot of brothers and sisters uh and the youngest one had a condition
Starting point is 02:12:09 or has he's actually still alive despite like he's out kicked the lifespan on his condition it's kind of like down syndrome um where he's kind of at like third grade probably maybe fourth grade um but he was a big smoker still is a huge smoker and he was like he lived for camel cash and for whatever the Marlboro one was. He was just always toting the catalog, like telling you what he was about to get. That and Walker, Texas Ranger were the two things that he was like really, really into.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Great dude. Are you Catholic by chance, Sarah? No. Are you? No, I'm not. But I am, I don't know. I got married in Catholic Church. Fascinated by Catholicism,
Starting point is 02:12:58 the mysticism of it. Sure. There's a story here locally where the Pope Oh yes Blessed a stone For the congregation at a Pleasant Grove church So the priest there traveled to Istanbul Met the Pope
Starting point is 02:13:17 He touched the stone and said Take this like Jesus said Back to Pleasant Grove And I don't know He was blessing a stone Like, what are we, so Harry Potter, it's like, not even funny, but it's a news story, like. How big is the stone?
Starting point is 02:13:36 That's a good guy. We're talking to Pebble? Pebble gives me a thought of it small. So stone. I mean, it's a brick, right? Like, he's blessing the brick for their new, they're going to build a new church. And he's saying, bless this brick is like the foundation of your new church. Bless the brick.
Starting point is 02:13:59 Like, push a tea. man can you imagine just being the pope and like everything you touch people are like oh my god has there ever been a pope who or is it are they weeded out just by the process of amping you up so much but has there ever been a pope who had like imposter syndrome where he's like walking out of the tunnel that day and he's like i can't believe that they're going for i touched a rock there's got to be you're stoked about it wait did you watch conclave no I did watch young Pope briefly. I did three or four episodes of that one.
Starting point is 02:14:34 Jude Law, right? That one. I remember it, but I didn't watch it. But Conclave, you know, one of the guys was having, you know, just like all these private doubts. And it must be true that these popes are like, come on, guys. You can't tell anybody. What are you going to do? You're going to go to Pope therapy?
Starting point is 02:14:53 You're the therapist. Like, who are they going to tell? I don't know. This seems like I'm kind of doing a ruse here. I don't know. Is this the new Pope, the American Pope? Yeah. Is he from like New Jersey or something like that?
Starting point is 02:15:07 I believe he's from Chicago. Oh, Chicago. I know that because I know he's a White Sox fan and I know, as Clayton knows, that at the deli that I go to in Grapevine, Weinbergers, Dan Weinberger went to high school with the Pope. So in their deli now, there's an American Pope. They can just have a guy who lives in Grapevine knows him. He probably hate him.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Just so. A hot dog and Leo. That people like went to high school with the Pope. With a guy who can bless stones. It doesn't make sense. This is probably just a fearmongering story that I shouldn't even do. Great. But there's a TikToker.
Starting point is 02:15:50 He goes by POV Wolfie. And his bit is traveling to places like Austin, where there are a lot of homeless people and filming himself gifting them like 18-inch machetes. Wow. And sometimes he gives them booze too. Okay.
Starting point is 02:16:12 Why machetes? They can kill each other. Yeah. It kind of appears to be a more of an act of omission, passive sort of bum fights where he's just like giving these people weapons and booze.
Starting point is 02:16:33 Yeah. He says, I travel around, bulk record in one city, and then for my safety, go to another one, do the same thing there for a couple weeks, just travel around.
Starting point is 02:16:42 I've armed homeless in Austin, New Orleans, and Little Rock. I have plans to go to Vegas and Skid Row. He says the police have told him that this is, unfortunately, for them, legal. Where's Skid Row? L.A. that's the one
Starting point is 02:16:58 the one near the one this is so different than Blake's long-suffering connection with his with Angelo yeah his benefactor yeah
Starting point is 02:17:13 benefactee I just give him clothes has he hit you up today did he re-up today? Yeah it's December 1st wake up wake up his new card hasn't come in yet okay so you have to when the new card comes in
Starting point is 02:17:25 that's when he'll be reloaded with his December cat. But has he wondered where it is to you today? Every other day he'll call me and ask if the card's in. Call you. Yeah. We're picking up the phone?
Starting point is 02:17:40 Every other time. He got me recently. He got me recently. He got me recently. I just hate the moral conflict of seeing his name pop up on my phone and just like cursing at him in my head because I don't want to talk to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Dude, this is all moral conflict. It's all moral conflict. It's a biblical story. He called me on Thanksgiving, and I had the Cowboys game. I was prepping, and I was like, not today. I can't believe this effing guy calling me on Thanksgiving. What could he want? I answer the phone.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Hey, I just want to tell you happy Thanksgiving. Of course. Of course. I've been thinking about you and all you've done for me. He's got his list. What card is this? It's his Venmo card, right? Card number four.
Starting point is 02:18:24 Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, he lost his last one. so we had to get him a new one. Then he asked me if there will be $200 on it because he hasn't spent any of his November money. Kind of has you there, doesn't he? You're teaching him accounting, though.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Yeah, kind of. God, it's such a good story. Especially around these holidays. It makes us a lot more Teflon from criticism. Oh, just his. Yeah, we've got a guy on the payroll. Yeah, we got a homeless guy. Okay, so not like a,
Starting point is 02:18:57 To get too much into the political realm here, but did you see that there was a National Guard member who was killed near the White House? Yes. You see this, Dan? Yeah. Well, that person was killed by an Afghan national, like somebody who had come here during the... Oops, sorry, we've messed up your country. We're going to let a bunch of you in here real quick before you get masked. So the shooter was one of those.
Starting point is 02:19:25 and I believe actually the shooter was somebody who had like worked with the U.S. military before well here in Fort Worth actually the same day or the day before that happened um ICE arrested an Afghan national over in Fort Worth for threats he had made on TikTok to blow up a building in Tarrant County
Starting point is 02:19:50 I was able to actually track down the TikTok because I kind of just wanted to see it. Like, okay, how much, like how, what do we mean here? Like, was he really doing it or was he just, like, joking? And even though I don't speak like Farsi at all, he seemed pretty serious in the video. So I don't know. You know, he was yelling.
Starting point is 02:20:14 It didn't seem like, you know, he was yelling about his picks. Maybe he was, but it was definitely a fired up video. And he's just sitting in the color. You remember I was fired up yesterday, man. You were, as your picks, Dude, it's the third quarter. Going down there. There's seven minutes left.
Starting point is 02:20:30 It's 10 to 8 in the game. Yeah. And why would anyone pick the Browns? Is it because of Shadur? No. I mean, that's fun bit. But it's their Browns defense at home. That is what they are known for.
Starting point is 02:20:44 Hang your hat on it. They beat Green Bay at home. Miles Garrett is sacking everyone. We're not often. fans of flipping the field, like that's a joke and a punchline, but not with when you're the Browns. Flip the field. Pin them.
Starting point is 02:21:02 Make them drive the length of the field. No, how about it's fourth and one? How about you line up your tight end to take the direct snap? Did you know this happened? No. This is what happened yesterday. He fumbled it. It's 10 to 8.
Starting point is 02:21:18 The Browns are behind, but still, well, you know, it's their game. This is their kind of game. muddy. Yes, he fumbles it, which doesn't matter. I mean, they're getting the ball anyway, right there. And yeah, they score a touchdown and never look back from there. It happened quick after that, too. It was like five plays.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Tough, uh, tough picks day for Dan. I can't believe he tripled against Purdy. But he didn't offer or try to blow up a Fort Worth building though. Oh, yeah, sorry. And what about the Afghan guy, too? I thought I saw funny online back and forth about that, where that guy it's uh the one side was like hey
Starting point is 02:21:55 see see like you're just waiting you want one of these shootings to be someone who is not an American oh right like yeah see and everybody's like ah yeah damn probably won that one and then they do a little more work on it and they're like
Starting point is 02:22:15 oh wait wait wait he was approved to come in this country in April oh yeah who can we move the with this administration yeah yeah but it was by the Biden laws yeah and the thing oh yeah it was Biden like I just love that back and forth that back and forth we're just hoping like you really stop caring about the people that are killed you're hoping that the person that did the kill him though is going to fit your narrative right and and if it doesn't you'll kind of work it that it doesn't if we want to work it back actually they were trans to my really if we want
Starting point is 02:22:46 no they knew a guy who's trans though he's probably loving him yeah and then another one who got swept up in Doge because he worked on transmissions and they had command-effed it. And I'm not saying one side's because the other side is really happy if it's a MAGA guy, too. Well, can I tell you to fit my narrative where the sides don't matter, this is all happening because several administrations, both Democrat and Republican, got us into an illegal unjustified forever war in Afghanistan. Iraq. You think, oh, trust me, Obama's not safe on this one. Obama's got a lot of blame to share for Afghanistan. So at some point, you're going to have to end that thing, and somebody's going, there's
Starting point is 02:23:34 going to be consequences from that. Sometimes it might be a subcourthouse in Collieville. Some guy on TikTok tries to blow it up. You know. Let's see. What else do we want to do today? Um, what are you burning on, Sarah? What's in the news for you? I'm going to an event tomorrow that Charlie Sheen is hosting.
Starting point is 02:23:57 Oh, wow. Dan just watched the documentary. Oh, yeah. Help you with some background if you want. Is it worth watching? Absolutely. Okay. You're going tomorrow? Yeah, it's this... You might want to get on that.
Starting point is 02:24:10 Event, I'll watch it tonight. Um, it's this odd event called Doing Good for Dallas, and it's hosted by Stella Jets, which is like a luxury Aviation Company in Addison. Okay. And then they have Charlie Sheen hosting this event called, that's like raising money for kids' toys. It's like the weirdest, like these things don't go together. Well, good for him. I wonder what his fee is.
Starting point is 02:24:40 It's got to cost you $100,000 to get Charlie Sheen in 10. Right? 10. You think 10? Yeah, I think 10. I think if you put him up at a nice place. 100K feels like a crazy. A hundred K feels way too big.
Starting point is 02:24:55 Okay. I just don't think there's a rush for him to host a lot of toys for tauts galas. I saw him live. Oh, Lady Jade will be there. Oh, yeah. Who's Lady Jade? I don't know, but she's at like everything that I, uh, like, it's Lady Antebellum. No.
Starting point is 02:25:12 Oh. Lady, that's Lady A. Lady Jade, she's like a hip-hop DJ and influencer. Okay. okay 104 once upon a time wait lady jade and sheen in the same room i know i know i went to the schiniest tour
Starting point is 02:25:27 do you remember after he was winning and all that stuff tiger blood which actually was just they had a tour where they would go to arenas across the country and they had a they had a dude out there who would play guitar we called it sports guitar
Starting point is 02:25:43 because he'd say some shit he'd be like yeah man i'll tell you what the big networks who cares i'd just walked away winning and then they'd be like weir and like with everything he said they would punctuate it with like a nice guitar a screaming guitar dude we could do that easily pull that fair go up yeah such a weird vase in american culture was like like 2010 11 I don't know something like that but I was right in it man cheering yeah Charlie it was great All right, there's your news.
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Starting point is 02:27:47 meals. Let's start with Viewer Male Birthday is here. Happy birthday. Thank you. What are you? Who was that? Oh, Sydney Sweeney.
Starting point is 02:27:57 Yeah. You missed our big Sydney Sweeney. Oh, no, I watch. I listen to it. Good. It was great. Let's see here. All right.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Some viewer male birthdays. Hello, Sir, vaginal slice of the land Born Born. Yesterday was the annual birth celebration of my brother-in-law Dallas Dunaway. Wow, porny. Our leaders are Jake making one-fifth of a half-baked conjecture and asking Dan if he knows what he means. That's good.
Starting point is 02:28:27 One-fifth. Also, Fred the Dog and the Oak Cliff Honeybusters are on our board of directors. Never punt from D's ear, Tony in Alaska. Wow. I don't understand any of that. Except the shot at me. That was pretty clear. Dear Dan, how are you?
Starting point is 02:28:47 That's good. I'm also good. Thanks for asking. I'm writing to wish a happy Nolan Ryan birthday to my wife, Kylie. Ooh. You like that name? I do. Aw. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:00 I do too. I once had it nixed, or I nixed it, from being my daughter's name. Why is that? Because I have a rule. Well, it stemmed from the only porn story. I've ever interviewed live in person was Kylie Ireland. And then my wife really liked the name Kylie for a girl. And I knew I would only think of Kylie Ireland.
Starting point is 02:29:30 Yeah. It seems like you did the right thing. I have a lot of... Morals, ethics, ethics, a code. I have a code. I won't watch. I won't click on a porn if it has... If the name of the porn actress is my daughter's name.
Starting point is 02:29:47 I think that's Which is tough Because one of the ones he picked Is used often Yeah but I've since I've since changed my stance To wear because my daughter spells her name EVA
Starting point is 02:30:00 So the A's in play Because the A You're going to be ruling out Like 50% of the population The name Ava has exploded Yeah Anyway
Starting point is 02:30:14 Kylie Is this guy's wife Last year her request was for Jake to say something nice about Taylor Swift This year the request is for Jake to watch one Premier League game and see if he likes it Oh I do Would recommend Chelsea they're very exciting
Starting point is 02:30:32 Punt when you feel like it From the playmaker DF number 88 Justin Yeah I've congratulated him on that listener number before I like soccer I like watching it
Starting point is 02:30:47 Why don't you marry it? If I had a lot of money and I didn't have to work, then all I'd probably do is watch sports. So, yeah. Hockey, I love hockey. If you love your job, you don't work a day in your life. Yep. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:31:02 Dearest Hounds of the Huaha Hotel. Friday was my 37th birthday. I was woken up in that special way thanks to game day men's health. Bingo. I got an afternoon pick-me-up, courtesy of the nine-milly apple-ice Lucy Breakers. Bingo. And end of the day relaxing at my warm home,
Starting point is 02:31:21 thanks to community mechanical, preventative maintenance, and the lemon early bird gummies. You just hit the, for the cycle, my friend. My leaders are Brandon Aubrey, Blake's Punisher logo mustache, and Jake's bravery. From day one subby, Edwin. Great dude, yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:42 Hit it all there. The Commerce Tree Qualis Roofing presents On this day in history We got a pee Again Does that drop? I just heard Qualis
Starting point is 02:31:58 Okay December 1st is today Monday December 1st This is the day You got a new month I'm so excited I'm soft launching my new year Yeah
Starting point is 02:32:08 Get this Soft launch your new year today Like I went to bed early last night I didn't eat snacks before bed sell earlier. This is messing up my rhythm which is to go full
Starting point is 02:32:22 on debauch mode in December and make it harder for myself in January. I know but I feel like I started that mid-November like I started like just eating like what am I doing? Just some gnarly food decisions in the last month. If you can gain
Starting point is 02:32:38 10 pounds here in December that 10 will come off in January. And then you'll feel so accomplished. Oh my gosh. But you're saying soft lunch Not hard. Yeah, it's still a little bit. I'm going on a trip this weekend. Yeah, but just kind of start to ease yourself back in a little bit. It'll be easier then.
Starting point is 02:32:53 Yeah. Wet it. I'll think on it. You can have a book. It'll be all done. You're not fucking starting shit. I'm not starting shit. But your book's not going to be done for Christmas, right?
Starting point is 02:33:09 No, it's done. It'll be done in a week. And I'm so anxious about it. And get it for Christmas? No, but her work part, I just mean, is like, at that point, you hit the finish line and you're, like, half-time and your foot's out the door. I just have to, it makes me feel so anxious, I have to overeat. So I'm gaining weight this month. Don't you owe us a dinner?
Starting point is 02:33:30 Yeah, you owe us Red Lobster. I am so going to get you guys all Red Lobster, and your great fans are invited as well. We're going to do a book launch, but that's not happening until fall 26, when the money comes in. Yeah. What kind of money we're talking about? Thick as hell by then. Oh, my God, I'm going to be so thick. Did you get an advance?
Starting point is 02:33:50 Cowboys will be 6 and 0. What's your advance? A lot of money. A hundred grand. Higher or lower? Higher. Whoa, nice. It's a years of work.
Starting point is 02:34:01 She got the $158 million. That was her. Are you the one that got $100? Somebody emails. Don't talk about that anymore, dude. Okay. I was in the car with TC for eight hours. Is that all he wanted to talk about?
Starting point is 02:34:11 It's all he wants to talk about. And I'm like, TC, you have to understand. And I don't mean to fucking get you guys behind Oz's chair here or anything. But, like, I know a lot of the emails we get are fake. We're all doing bits here. This is an entertainment product. That's real.
Starting point is 02:34:28 Almost every email I get, I read it knowing somebody's doing a bit here. They're effing with me. I kind of think that one's real, though, for sure. Oh. You all do, which is a sign of how bad things have gotten. One guy emails you guys from an anonymous email that he made up and is like, like, I won $200 million. Oh, what do you think about it?
Starting point is 02:34:46 And now it's all these guys want to talk about. T.C.'s like, why wouldn't he give me anything? The whole way down. T.C., what is he done for that guy? We all want in the will. Because the guy, because now T.C. knows the guy's been like a 12-year IJB listener. The guy. Again, who doesn't exist.
Starting point is 02:35:05 So he's been going through all the subscribers, sorting my date. Yeah, you're not far off. Okay, so it's December 1st. On this day in 1891, James Naismith nailed two peach buckets up on opposite ends of a gym and instructed teams of his students to toss soccer balls into them. And so the game of basketball was invented on this day. Way, what year was that? 1891.
Starting point is 02:35:36 Did he steal that from Abner Doubleday? On this day in 1955. Abner Doubleday did not invent baseball. Blake still thinks he did. Rosa Parks was arrested after refusing to give up her seat to a white man on a Montgomery, Alabama City bus. This sparked a year-long boycott of the buses by blacks. Yes, and some years later sparked a column by Jen Floyd Engel,
Starting point is 02:36:00 where she compared Johnny Mansell taking money for autographs to affect change as to the same as Rosa Parks not giving up her seat on that bus that day. I had a lot in common. I would like to support Jen in this, except for the fact that she should have pointed out that DFW had its own Rosa Parks in the early 2000s. Some man from Ohio. Did I express or I exhibited civil disobedience?
Starting point is 02:36:30 How would you say that? I like exhibited. I drove in the HOV lane because it didn't make any sense. These three lanes were packed on 635. This is before the underneath 635. And I drove in the HOV lane and got pulled over and got a ticket. And I just, I didn't think that made sense for the environment, for the ozone layer. Commerce.
Starting point is 02:36:55 All these people are packed and they're not moving. I'm moving right along. I'm helping traffic. I'm the best. But you didn't, yours didn't pop that hard like that ladies did because you weren't all hot. And she was. hot and pregnant. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:11 Remember the mommy? You remember the HOV mommy a couple years ago? I can't know what he loves the word mommy. No. They called her that. Brandy Baton. Yeah. She was on our show.
Starting point is 02:37:22 She was on the show. What? She was pulled over in the HOV lane, but she was pregnant. Oh, I do remember this. So she argued. Speaking of political test cases. Yeah. I thought you can't have an abortion, right?
Starting point is 02:37:37 Because you said that's killing. Right, right, right, right. Right, right. And they were like, ah, yeah. Jesus. You're right. And you're hot. Okay, back to the segment.
Starting point is 02:37:49 On this day in 1964, the Colt 45s changed their name to the Astros. The Houston baseball team was known as the Houston Colt 45s, but they had a dispute with the firearm company. And so the firearm company said, change your name. This would be so bad if you were called that. I had a shirt. Cool shirt.
Starting point is 02:38:15 That feels very woke. I guess they would have changed it in the future anyway. Yeah. Like the Washington Bullets. At some point. Which, of course, that put it into all gun violence in the Washington, D.C. Cold 45s is a cool name, though. It's a cool logo.
Starting point is 02:38:30 But an incredible increase in wizardry. Everywhere you turn. There's spells, magics, magic. Once the Washington Wizards emerged. On this day in 1997, Golden State Warriors Guard Latrell Spreewell assaults his head coach, PJ Carlesimo, and was suspended for 10 games. Doesn't seem like a lot. That was kind of like the peak of being, your parents,
Starting point is 02:38:59 when did you be afraid of the NBA and how black it was? Like, Latrell Spreewell was the case of like, no, we're not doing this. This is too much. Next thing you know, they'll have tattoos. Yeah. Dribble it between their legs. And so today is Monday. It's December 1st.
Starting point is 02:39:18 What happened on this day in Dumb Zone history, Blake? Let's see. We had Chris Young on the program. And I think we were all laughing at them because he thought the free agency class they signed in the offseason would lead to a World Series. By God, it did. Yeah, I mean, who'd they even get, though? Wasn't this the Seeker Simeon year? No, there was a year after that, though.
Starting point is 02:39:41 They were bad in 22 and won it in 23. Okay, so I just thought you meant there was another class we were talking about. Because they didn't really do anything else, did they? The young guys. Yeah, this was the draft. Yeah, yeah. Jack Leiter. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:39:58 We had just done a movie of the month, and you guys said picking your seat for the movie ahead of time is like the modern day equivalent of your dad pulling out his underwear for the next. day that's good i don't even know like when's the last time i mean i don't it could be case by kays but the last time you went to a movie that was so crowded that you're like i got to get my seat beforehand i hate doing it but they make you do it they make you do it but then you walk in and you're like okay well there's 150 seats and 10 of us here so the only time is our movie of the month yeah we have to have that because we're so popular that was very 2021. In 2022, Kanye West was on Alex Jones during our show.
Starting point is 02:40:43 Oh, he had the full Trayvon Diggs mask on. I remember that. I could practice today, by the way, Dan. He had like Green Man suit or something. Yeah. Yeah, something else. And so that you guys were talking about it, but it'd be funny to pull up Alex Jones right now and then immediately. Nope, no, we're not doing that. Who? Cat.
Starting point is 02:41:04 Oh. That was in the radio? Over the intercom. Yeah, here, pull me up. Let's see what this sounds like. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. Oh, never mind. It's one of those like recap-y things.
Starting point is 02:41:14 I kind of don't miss this now that I'm away from Mavs fandom, but in 2022 we were kicking around. Maybe Kimball Walker could be good here. Well, they just signed him. You may recall that a 30-point game? He ended up here, yeah. Yeah, and only played like six games. Dan yelled at Ham over Tim Kallishaasaw's cough drop. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Yeah, that was a fun time. Stop playing the fucking drop. And then in 2023, we fought in the open because I said to you guys, more people knew I love you, man, than whatever your McConaughey movie is. Dazed and confused? That's the dumbest thing you've ever said. I generally want to support any young guy thing against the old's, but that's insane. Because you're just, you're disrespecting the change in culture. When Days in Confuse came out, it's not even a good movie.
Starting point is 02:42:11 But the problem is it's like the Beatles. There were only 10 teams in the league when it came out, like the Celtics in the 50s. They didn't have to compete with anybody. Everybody knew those movies because it was one funny movie a year. Now. Yeah, I mean, I might have been swinging at the biggest bully there because you were making fun of my movie. I love you, man, is the hill you wanted to die. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 02:42:35 We were pressed for an open. Is that where Kevin James? Mary Adam Sandler? No, that's, I now pronounce you, Chuck and Larry. I love you, man. It has Paul Rudd in it. It's really funny. Jason Siegel.
Starting point is 02:42:47 Somebody farted in here. I mixed a lot of those movies up. I mean, I'm not against them, but come on. Day's and Confused. It's probably translated into six. Lake can never admit one of his things was bad. Have you seen it? I've seen both of the movies.
Starting point is 02:43:02 I don't remember. Kind of like Jake, I mix up a lot of those buddy comedies. Forgetting Sarah Marshall. A good one. They do, the Paul Rudd and Jason Siegel of it all kind of get blurry. I'm trying to decide, were you saying that more people had seen the movie because it was a big box office hit, whereas Dazed and Confused was a small indie movie? Were you trying to argue for its cultural relevance?
Starting point is 02:43:31 Yeah, what? There's no way he was this deep in it. I think Dan was just being mean to a movie I liked, and so I thought, well, I'm going to say your movie. of you sucks too. Right. Wasn't nice. All right, all right, all right. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:43:48 Other birthdays today, we have former cowboy Steve Walsh's 59. So the first thing I thought when writing this down this morning was will he be in Blake's car someday? Just all cowboy backup? All former cowboy backup quarterbacks.
Starting point is 02:44:07 Listen, dude, you fast forward this thing 20 years. The nuch could be handing out hats. What do they have to eat at stadium? Turkey? Turkey, ham, stuffing, yeah. The tradition. Basics. You ever thought about doing a deep dive on those upside-down hats?
Starting point is 02:44:27 What's an upside-down hat? Everybody, so the Cowboys had a backup quarterback that during COVID kind of like launched a hat brand where it just says Dallas, but it's upside-down. Oh. You've not seen those? No. Oh, wow. You really are out of the, like, hunting for younger men game. It's been a while.
Starting point is 02:44:46 Yeah. Yeah. I'm off my game. Well, they're like, freaking huge, huge. 25-year-old wants to date you. Are you in? There's no chance. I would be disgusted to learn that.
Starting point is 02:44:59 Why not? Because they don't deserve her. 25? That's very common. You don't know enough about the world to appreciate that yet. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Well, listen.
Starting point is 02:45:10 I made the mistake of going out with the 21-year-old once because I will do anything once. Like at what age? Like early 40s? I was 44. Okay. And it was one of the worst dates of my life. And he afterward then moed me. Like, what is it when you do like a PayPal, like you owe me this?
Starting point is 02:45:35 Oh, you like requested money? Yes, he requested money. Oh, good God. Awesome. What a dick. It was. That is, yeah, that's different. Did you not sleep with him?
Starting point is 02:45:47 Not even close. Oh, well, that's why. Not even close. And I did make out with him, and he gave me a hickie. Oh. What are we doing? That's what I was saying. To say, not even close, like just with this dripping with a disgust.
Starting point is 02:46:06 You did me a hickey. I'm telling him. Oh, sure, yeah. We made out. I'm just saying. I would not. I blew him. No, come on. A huge step from makeout, but. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:19 But not even close. I'm a friendly makeout. I like a makeout. Sure. Interesting. So that date was a disaster. What did you talk about? That was the other thing. TikTok houses?
Starting point is 02:46:33 And I remember he didn't know he just talked and talked and talked. You got old guy. could do that too and then i was like hey i got to go and he was like no five more minutes just i want to hang out for like five more minutes and i was like all right you have you can ask me two questions i've traveled the world had you made out yet uh i think we made out like a little bit and he was trying to like prolong it okay but i i said you can ask me any question you know i've traveled the world i've i've worked as a journalist for 20 20 years what would you like to know and he said do you like what's kelly finglass like show up
Starting point is 02:47:07 I'm sorry, I stepped on your punchline. I didn't know it was going to be that. Do you like anal? Yeah. And that's what he asked me. It was epically bad. And I guess really the answer to that first question dictates the second question if he's allowed to. You'll have two questions.
Starting point is 02:47:27 I mean, it's kind of a goose bumps. Right. But, you know, to me, it wasn't. If he wasn't such a jerk and all that, what would your answer have been? no never no never I wouldn't say never I just heard you at the beginning of this said I will do anything once I never say never I'm gonna tell you this but not yet you're saying are you asking me have I tried anal do you have to be so forward about it seems like that seems disgusting to say I'm gonna tell you this what would you say if I did ask that hypothetically go ahead Jake I can't do this no woman should ever have any type of sex, but especially not that
Starting point is 02:48:09 sacred type of sex with a man who verbalizes, do you like this? 100%. And I'm not saying you should shock them or anything, but it should be supposed to do, though? Get verbal consent these days? Yes, but you don't ask. You don't just ask in an an adidine way, like while we're watching, is it
Starting point is 02:48:25 cake? You don't bring that up. That guy doesn't deserve anal. You need to be like, it needs to be a shared experience of consent and passion, and hey, now we'll see about this, but if you ask, It's like asking Bobon, why are you so funny? I don't know. You're a sex dork, if you ask that.
Starting point is 02:48:42 And you don't deserve it. Where were we? Steve Walsh is in Blake's car. Probably backup quarterbacks of the Cowboys in their hats. Former cowboy Robert Thomas is 51. He's someone that I had a great relationship with Robert. For some reason, he was quite tickled by my existence. And did he get arrested?
Starting point is 02:49:02 Ah, boy, he might have eventually. Or was that Dwayne Thomas? But Robert Thomas was known as Red Rock. Okay, yeah. He was a black guy who had freckles. Maybe that's why he was Red Rock. I don't know. But he was kind of a good dude.
Starting point is 02:49:16 I think Dwayne Thomas might have been just like arrested for crack while he was a cowboy. No, Dwayne Thomas, you're thinking of the running back? Dwayne Thomas, the Dallas Cowboys controversial running back was arrested. Okay, a huge amount of pot, right? No. It was just Texas in 1970. Oh, you're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:38 Like any pot was akin to heroin in 1970. There you go. Deshawn Jackson is 39. Gang member. Lee Trevino is 86. One of the funniest moments in ticket history. See. Oh, see.
Starting point is 02:49:55 Larry Walker is 59. Steroids. Ranger? At the end or no? No. Okay. Sarah Snook is 37. Succession.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Yeah, I love her. Gah. A lot. She kind of ballooned up a little bit. Keep ballooning. Keep ballooning. I love that. I'm a fan of balloons.
Starting point is 02:50:12 I love that spirit. Here, pull me up, Blake. Mm-hmm. Let's just see how this goes. You can keep going, Dan. Sarah Silverman, 55. Maybe that's why I was thinking Sarah Silverman. Do you get loved then?
Starting point is 02:50:26 Schwarzenegger said he loved Hitler. They gave him an award. I'm just saying, I don't like Nazis, and I don't like... This is where cats yelling. I like Hitler. That's right. There you go. I like Hitler
Starting point is 02:50:36 With this ski mask on Actor Nestor Carbonell is 58 Give me a roll Well I know him from something Very Recent But he was in Shogun
Starting point is 02:50:52 Shogun You gotta say it like that Shogun? Yeah That show was great Because they said it on the show Shogun I thought it was Shogun I thought it was too All my life
Starting point is 02:51:03 But then you watch it and you're like, all right, I guess if they say it that way. He was in Lost, which I didn't recognize him on the current show I watch. But the current show he's in, of course. He is the new co-host in the morning show with Bradley Jackson, I think, because Jennifer Anson has, of course, got bumped upstairs. She's kind of the CEO. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:51:27 Sure. Yeah. Spoiler. Yeah. Good season. It's on a lot of the house. It happened at the end of last season. Don't yell at me.
Starting point is 02:51:36 Zoe Cravitz is 37? She is in the worst episode of... Well, she's in... Anything she's ever in. She's in the worst episode of the studio. Because it's the Mushrooms episode. Oh, that's true. Good show, but yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:53 Bad episode. Good show, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's what I say about the whole thing. Sure. Riz Ahmed is 43. The Night of? Night of on HBO.
Starting point is 02:52:02 Star Wars and he's a Brit like every actor He's a Brit Robert Irwin is 22 That's Bindy's brother Yeah Didn't try to marry him
Starting point is 02:52:14 And Dumb's on birthday of the day is David Hornsby is 50 I don't know who that is I like when you search and then find out And you're excited That is Is cricket It's cricket
Starting point is 02:52:28 It's cricket the homeless guy who helps with the podcast on Always Sunny. They offer lemons in payment. Isn't that a fun way for Jake to learn? It is. Cute. Born on the stay now dead, Pablo Escobar and Richard Pryor.
Starting point is 02:52:49 Dead on the stay still dead. Dude. What did I see? Oh, Richard Pryor in the Eddie Murphy documentary. Great, by the way. I need to watch that. A little bit like shaped to Eddie's liking. more, but I just, I had an appreciate,
Starting point is 02:53:03 we never talked about this on the show, but I really had an appreciation for him that I did not have before, like, didn't know he was like pretty, not straight edge, but like, he wasn't there to party. He was there with a goal and a dream and like, I'm, but, uh, he was partying,
Starting point is 02:53:19 maybe not drinking stuff, but he had to be, I, yeah, but just like, tagging chicks four at a time. Oh, no doubt, but he wasn't, you know, blowing himself up with crack, like Richard Pryor was.
Starting point is 02:53:29 And what I didn't realize is that, Like, Richard Pryor blew himself up free basing and then just, like, had a special that year. Yeah. I thought that was, like, at the end of his career, like, life. But he's just, like, back out on stage, like, and then I blew up. I'm like, holy shit, he looks great. How did he pull that off? Dead and a stay still dead.
Starting point is 02:53:51 Javon Belcher. Oh, wow. He's a chiefs player who committed suicide. In front of Scott Pioly and I want to say Romeo Cronel. How did he commit suicide? There's an NFL player who I'm positive afterward they found had major brain trauma, but he murdered his either girlfriend and wife, or girlfriend or wife, and they were pregnant.
Starting point is 02:54:16 And then he drove to the facility, like the stadium. Saturday or Sunday morning, it might have been. He called them out. It was like, I need to talk to the GM, the coach, whatever, and he shot himself in the parking lot, like with them there. Oh, my God. Yeah, active player. You got to call the GM because then he knows there's a roster spot open.
Starting point is 02:54:38 He's just trying to save you some paperwork. Get on that right away. Yeah, it's a wild one. Also dead on this day, still dead. Jim Los Katoff. Jungle Jim. Dumpzone Hall of Fame. He is the worst.
Starting point is 02:54:55 Bad Radio Hall of Fame. So once I did a study, I took every retired number in the NBA, including, like, guys who got their number retired because they died mid-season or something, like Bobby Phil's. And I determined that Jungle Jim Loskatoff, as far as stats are concerned, was the worst, the unworthiness-worthiest number retired in the NBA. Because he averaged like five points a game and four rebounds, something like that. Something very small. But he was white.
Starting point is 02:55:32 He was a Celtic. He was a white player boss. He was the number one worst. The number two was Brad Davis of the maps. Yeah. And that's what happened on this day in history. And that's all I got. Closing remarks are brought to you by anyone, Dan, besides Sarah?
Starting point is 02:55:56 We could throw a little love to game day men's health. Don't forget, gameday.dumzone.com. Get yourself rock hard for the holidays. Yeah. So what do you got going on? Sarah? For the holidays? Well, just whatever.
Starting point is 02:56:15 You're closing remarks. Do you want to direct anyone somewhere? Do you want to direct anyone to your podcast? Sarah is, of course. Any features coming up? The star of Smoke them if you got them. Yeah. And then she has like a little sidekick.
Starting point is 02:56:29 but really Sarah runs that thing Nancy and I With an iron fist Not at all But yeah You can listen to smoke them If you got them We got some cool
Starting point is 02:56:39 Pamela Paul Who was fired from the New York Times She's gonna be a guest On our podcast For what? Well she's gonna talk about that It's kind of under mysterious circumstances So being fired
Starting point is 02:56:55 This will be the first time Right before the holidays, huh? She was five fired a year ago. She works at the Washington Post now. Oh, good. So there's been some time. Is the Washington Post the one that Bezos owns? Oh, yeah. A little more welcoming to your counterculture takes. Oh, okay. Actually, my apologies, I think she's at the Wall Street Journal. Even more welcoming. Perhaps. Um, no, I just want to say that I'm actually really excited about this Red Lobster thing. Yeah. I'm going to
Starting point is 02:57:29 make that happen. Like, that's not just me talking. We're going to do a red lobster. So we can go eat brown food. That's the ironic thing about red lobster. Everything is brown. Is it? It's been, I haven't gone since I was like nine years old. But when I was... Because all the fish is fried, all the hush puppies,
Starting point is 02:57:45 like everything. It's all brown. Nah, that's Long John Silver. The lettuce is wilted. Everything's brown. You go get yourself some nice grilled shrimp. I remember us talking about the biscuits. The biscuits, which unfortunately, for our case, are brown. But they're still delicious
Starting point is 02:58:01 Yeah, no, we need to make this happen I'm so excited about it So thank you for I think I'm busy No, you're not You need to go You're going to be there, Dan Do you want to come to our Christmas party?
Starting point is 02:58:12 Oh, yeah Where is it? What is it? I didn't invite you? No It's next Tuesday Damn All right
Starting point is 02:58:19 Where is it? Well, we gotta go How's Peter Thiel doing? Adios Bo-Fo We gotta go before this becomes a zoo Thank you for watching my video Subscribe and type for my name
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Starting point is 03:00:08 There they are down there by their cars. They have wooden swords and they are fake fighting like fake basketball and one shorts. One of them is Asian and he ain't playing the white boy with the ponytail and holy grail necklace around his thumbnail won't tell. But now, should he, should he not? For he is his only be got this tech thing is weird. can just press buttons and disappear what happens if we get the wrong gear but like chat gpt said to make it 100% clear here's the actual cycle for the current air which was 2025 but it mean in 2024 because that's why we would all roar for a complex post about a sunset in alaska in
Starting point is 03:00:49 2026 from a pick that i said that sent me to questioning who are you Why? You. Are you alive? Where did you come from? What here is this? What do you want? How can I help?
Starting point is 03:01:16 Please don't be artificial. Oh, yeah. Mmm, Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm.
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