The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 12-11-25 | Brandon Aubrey on the Cowboys playoff push and Shiesty Schotty

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:03:26 We have a college football coach fire. that Jake is really into and it all starts how about this have we ever done this a Brandon Aubrey appearance right at the beginning of a show like he's here
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Starting point is 00:04:03 That is Brandon Aubrey's HVAC company It could be your HVAC company At community dfW.com Here he is ladies Hey guys Sit-in's loving Jake we gave up on the mustache
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah, yeah This is a moment I was not looking forward to I was hoping you wouldn't even notice but I was informed it was no longer November it was kind of a Cowboys winning streak thing Oh he's blaming you I'm not blaming him He is blaming Brandon Aubrey
Starting point is 00:04:38 I'm blaming my wife But yeah I'm sorry I can see that Gin would not be happy with a mustache for me Yeah you could just do bits though And the entire country would be talking about it If he just decided to do facial hair bits I just want them to talk about my leg
Starting point is 00:04:56 There you go. That's a thing. They were doing it the other night. So three field goals over 55 yards. They say the first player to do that in a game. The 63-yard field goal. And what you don't want to happen is happening. Like it was Al Michaels.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And they were just like, oh, here he is, 63. Well, this is no problem. And then it wasn't any problem. But I know you don't like the fact that people are diminishing it. Like, this is not a big deal. It's not, it still is a big deal, I think, if you're banging 60 yarders. I do, especially at the point in the game when they sent me out for it, middle of the third quarter chasing points.
Starting point is 00:05:39 We're down, I think, 14 or 10. I don't remember what the exact score was, but we're down by multiple scores. Missing that field goal definitely sets the other team up to score. So having the confidence to send me out there is massive and very appreciative of the coaching staff for giving me that faith. Okay, that's, I always kind of thought you tried to block that all out. You're not thinking as if the score and how big of it is. This is post-game review. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:06 For me. So in the moment, you're just walking out there like you're a little robot. Yeah, which is why I don't know exactly the deficit. I don't know exactly what the deficit is. If I was super emotionally invested in the game, I would have known exactly what the score was at that point in time because it would have been seared into my brain. So not being able to think about that stuff, then kind of does negatively impact the memory of the game as well. Because I used to, in soccer, I could tell you every scoreline at how it happened as the game was progressing, key plays, key moments, even like way back to my high school.
Starting point is 00:06:39 But for football, I have no idea what's going on in the game until I watch it back in the broadcast, which is kind of sad because you don't get to enjoy it as a fan like I used to sitting there watching football. And now you're playing a game on Sunday, so you're going, especially we have a night game. you're preparing all day and you don't get to see the games that are going on and then you play your game and you get home there's no football on because you played the night game so I don't get to watch football on our primetime games unless we're playing like Thursday in need of all Sunday but yeah not not getting to watch games is sad so you get you said you watch it on the broadcast like you actually watch Al and yeah I'll watch the broadcast back especially in a game where I've got a lot of action you know maybe if I have one
Starting point is 00:07:23 field goal and we lose not watching that back. If I have one field when we win or the Lions game where I'm on the field constantly, I'll watch those back. Yeah, if there's a tackle. Or you make a badass tackle. Also, I feel like there's probably a good chance. I don't know about badass. I just kind of got to the spot he wanted to run to and I figured he'd go out of bounds. But you know, I thought in the moment he put his head and shoulder down and tried to run me over, but I guess he's just tripping and falling over. So I put my shoulder to
Starting point is 00:07:52 match and got in the way and just tried my hardest not to fall over yeah you just kind of kept walking i think that's the move it's like the opposite of what i do when i act when i just fall just keep walking yeah it's like that just happened we're going to act like it didn't and you just kind of kept walking to your spot over on the sideline i don't want to celebrate a play where you're down kick off or outside the the 40 yeah kind of just got gashed feels out of place to celebrate that and nobody wants the kicker making the tackle i've been told a million times not to make the tackle that they've got me they've got me and to this point this is my first career tackle I'm year three so they've been fantastic um but yeah after I made
Starting point is 00:08:32 the tackle then everyone was like thank you but we're not letting you do that again okay so they're like a quarterback sliding they're like yes do not yeah okay so I did watch you walk back to the bench and uh I made a little note of every teammate that came and gave you a high five or a fist bump for the tackle um and they're all you know moved up my list of favorite cowboys but did i see cd walk over to you does he yeah he's a he's a big uh rah-rah guy especially after kickoff um we just kicked a long field goal he'll come and find me and um tap me on the butt or tap me on the helmet and say thanks but uh yeah he he's a big um big team guys he's great like that uh he'll celebrate everyone's high moments especially because you know we're on defense so he's got time to to do everyone's
Starting point is 00:09:19 maybe not on offense when he's got a line for the next play. But he's great. Yeah, I understood Malik Davis and Turpin, but I just thought your $40 million receiver coming up to you after you making that tackle, that's going to be pretty cool. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it is good that you do watch a little bit of the rest of the league, or at least it's good for me because as to Dan's point of it,
Starting point is 00:09:38 kind of being a given, it's not. Like, I forget that guys line up for 58-yard field goals and their fan bases are very nervous. And the announcers are very nervous. Yeah, it is. It's just, I don't know, did you expect there to be more guys who could hit at your distance this year? Like, are you expecting every year or where's the trajectory? The guys come out of college will definitely, the younger legs will definitely be able to do it. But I think most kickers that make it to the NFL can do it. It's just whether they go out for their first one of their career and they make it,
Starting point is 00:10:12 then the coach is like, okay, we can send this guy out. If you miss it, then they're, like, eh, and then you start to, I imagine, lose your confidence. And you watch the coach punt from a 58-yard field goal, one drive, and then you need it from 58, and then you might miss it. And then after that, like, they're punting for sure from there unless it's a must-have situation. And then you're putting a lot of pressure on that kicker. It just, you know, you make your first one, you build the confidence, and then you keep making them. It's like it's not a momentum thing, more of a confidence thing, but it's similar to momentum there.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Interesting. I thought the K-balls were changing everything. And then you told us early in the season, like it's not that big of a deal. Yeah, it's not a big deal for our team for sure. You know, our field goal rate distance has not changed. Our make percentage hasn't changed. You know, our guys have done a great job breaking in the balls all year. And they did my whole career.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So I think the balls haven't changed at all. It's just nice to be able to have nice balls out at practice for us. When we're indoors, we'll use the game balls, the practice. We're outdoors. We try and keep them as nice as possible. So we'll use some old practice balls or old game balls. but yeah, it hasn't changed. Maybe for some teams, like I said,
Starting point is 00:11:32 where their EQ staff didn't do a great job breaking them down on game day. They have a little bit more saying what the ball looks like. Some guys might take them themselves and breaking them themselves before practices. So yeah, there might be some teams that made a big difference too,
Starting point is 00:11:47 but for us, I'd be happy to go back to the other way until our EQ guy retires that does it for us. If he retires, then might have to take it over myself. So we were doing the game stream, so we're watching the game, too. I mean, obviously, we probably watch every game. So since you watched the game, we were wondering about this while doing the stream high atop my garage. Where when they put a graphic of you, the picture of you, and then there's, it says Brandon Aubrey at the bottom and some stats and stuff, and then a little picture of you, but it starts with your head like this, and then you lift it up.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah. When do you do that? that's media day early in that like before the season yeah in um before uh week one but after training camp um we kind of cut down to the 53 man roster uh then bring the practice squad by guys back then will go through a media day there's usually eight stations and some guys will go through three like head shot um that little head thing and just i don't know what you call that station uh short camera clips or short video clips they'll have some like media questions like quick hitters um you'll do like the sunday night football introducing yourself um that sort of stuff so there's like eight
Starting point is 00:13:07 stations some guys go through all of them some guys go through a handful what do you say for i guess you would never be in that spot but for what the starters yeah what do you say what would you say you say Notre Dame yeah i'm proud of it i mean i didn't play football there but that's not what they're asking they're just asking me went to school very true and They're not even a playoff team. And since that's where you went to school, I'm just wondering if you had any thoughts on the firing of Big Blues head coach yesterday. I actually just saw the headline on the TV.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I was walking into this room. No idea what actually happened, but I saw arrested shortly after firing. So you guys are going to have to fill me in on that one. Yeah, I think we're kind of a waiting word from the police. But it's definitely confirmed. He was having a situation, Sharon Moore. the head coach in Michigan. He had a relationship with a staffer,
Starting point is 00:14:00 a Michigan football staffer, which is not... You can't get arrested for that. No. After he found out that the AD was meeting with the team without him, he went over to an apartment, which appears to be hers and engaged in some level of threats or violence that resulted in a manhunt, and he was then arrested like an hour later
Starting point is 00:14:23 and handed over to the authorities. and fired, obviously. Yeah, sounds like swift justice. Yeah. Yeah. All right, that came up because... Go Irish. You were talking about having to identify yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Well, TC, our buddy T.C. is a huge Notre Dame fan. He's been laughing all morning. I want to keep talking about it, but as we were talking about that picture, I just want to know why do you, why do they make you start looking down? What is the point of that? What if you just looked forward and they started with that? Yeah. Do they just need to show that it's a graph, like it's not a...
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's not a still picture. Yeah. So, hey, look down. No, I think it's like some level of like blue steel, like Zuland. It just looks cool to be like. Yeah. There's something to. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I just jump through the hoops. I wanted to play a video of you pregame, Brandon, because I brought this up. I don't remember where. I think it was New York. But in pregame, they don't care about your warmups. And you had to kick over people holding a flag. And you also had to kick in the dark. And so I don't think.
Starting point is 00:15:26 people quite understood. So here you are kicking a 45-yard field goal over the people waving the flag. And it just looks hilarious that you're just kicking in the dark by yourself. Yeah. They have more going on on their field and pregame than we do. Yeah. That's crazy. Is it like opera? It was a it was a show, man. I don't know what they had going on. There was probably like 20 yards of usable space on the field during their pregame introductions. So luckily 20, yards were for me a 45 to 60 yard field goal and I just hop right in there. I was probably like six yards away from the people in front of me. They look terrified. Yeah. I got their phones out. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:09 you got to think you got six foot six guys jumping full stretch at eight yards trying to block the field goal and they don't usually get very close. It's like six yards. The five foot eight guys not getting hit in the head with that. I know. But I really think it. I just put myself on the tea box and if you put any sort of water 10 feet in front of me I know to hit it over it but then in my head I top it I don't know I just I would assume I would drill somebody we have always marveled at how
Starting point is 00:16:36 crazy it is that people just go stand that close to someone hitting a golf ball but they're not gonna hit you oh man yeah but it's hard to get your head around but have you guys seen Caitlin Park hitting through the gallery or the galley whatever it's called
Starting point is 00:16:51 no I think she hits somebody at a pro am but it's on them for you never standing that close in a pro-hand. Got guys like me going out there to hit. You expect me to be going to golf, but it's a lot of faith. The stories have a funny T.J. Oshy story where he drilled some guy. Oh, that's right. And he said, hey, you good?
Starting point is 00:17:06 And then just hit his next shot. What are he supposed to do? Brandon was also a part of my pregame quest to get a picture with Peter. And I overheard you say... Kirk Street's dog. Yeah. Yeah. New dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Did you say Trent had a funny story with Peter? He just walked up while he was waiting. on me and banger to be ready for field go operations and gave him a pet and slobbered all over his hands so he had to get it dry before snapping for us so it took a couple extra seconds but yeah why not he loves dogs dog on the field yeah you did not interact with this dog no um by the time i was done um with my warm up i mean i wouldn't have gone out of my way if he was like sneaking up behind me out of pet him but the dog was off the field Blake was walking across the field
Starting point is 00:17:57 on his quest to go get the picture and I stopped and talked to Blake for a second. Might have caused him the delay that lost the picture opportunity there. It's all good. The dog was busy. I'd rather talk to you. How much do you guys think the dog handler makes a year?
Starting point is 00:18:12 Is there someone that just takes care of the dog, right? There are two people. Yeah, I know that that in like big cities, I think that is a full-time job. Do they make right now, this person, because he works for Herb Street. Does he make more than Brandon Aubrey? Not a chance.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Are you sure? Does he? Yes, dude. You're not paying. Current Brandon Aubrey. I'm very aware that Brandon is on the low, low end of NFL players and is more our friend. Herb Street makes like 30 million a year. No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Doesn't he make 10 for the Amazon and 10 for ESPN? He might make. I'm sorry you're having to listen to this, Brandon. He makes a lot of money, dude. Like, he's probably in the 8 to 12 range. But still, I mean. without getting into another man's money, paying somebody over half a mill to take care of just Peter.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't think so, man. Maybe it was a cat handle. It would be a significantly harder job. Yeah, 10 for Amazon, 8 for ESPN. Yeah, I guess it would. They're both paying that much? Dan, that's closer than I thought to what Dan said then. 18 million.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I thought it... He makes more for Amazon than he does ESPN. That's insane. Yeah. Because that's more than any of, like, Troy or any of those guys. Does that change your mind? No, but it's, it's more. more than I thought, but no. He's not paying somebody
Starting point is 00:19:26 half a mill to... I like Brandon's idea of bringing a cat to every game. If that was your idea. You have no idea what's going to happen with a cat on the field. No leash. I'd like to add that to just overtime. It's kind of spice things up.
Starting point is 00:19:44 The cat you win, automatically, like a golden snitch. What'd you end up doing in Detroit? Nothing? We kind of talked to you early in the day. Gosh, I did nothing. I just sat in my room. played chess on my phone, which is depressing, but it was snowing outside, and also got a game, got a conservative energy. A chess phone guy, huh? Yeah. I'm just getting into it. We got a weekly chess matchup with our special teams coordinator.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I'm currently down 11 to 7, so I need, I'm still alive, just like our playoff hopes. I'm still alive. Can win four in a row and tie them up. So that's what I'm trying to do now. We haven't really asked you about your special teams coordinator this year at all. Like we all know Bones from years and years. And I remember Nick Sorensen as a player. But I don't think you knew him at all before this. So what's his? We know who shot he is.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah. What's Sorensen's vibe? Sorensen is a lot more serious than Bones. You can see it in his presentation of meetings in the way he speaks. He's a fantastic coordinator. He knows everything he needs to know and communicates well. He watches all the film of every week and figures out a great game plan for us and puts it out there and just expects his players to go and play football. If something changes on a play that you're not expecting, he's not going to yell at you for not sticking to your assignment.
Starting point is 00:21:12 If you just go follow your instincts and make a football play, which I think is massive. Because as a soccer player, anytime you feel like you have an assignment to do, you have a job to do, and then, you know, you want to stick to that, but you see something on the game where if I do what I'm supposed to, it's going to go worse than if I do something else. You don't want to get yelled at for doing something you're not supposed to do and making a good play or it doesn't work out because it's your instincts and then get hollered at for not doing that.
Starting point is 00:21:43 So he does a good job of walking that line, which is tough, of wanting players to play free and use their instincts and also giving assignments that make sense based on the game plan and what the other team is good at. But yeah, he's fantastic. He's got less responsibilities than Bones during practice because Bones would run the practice. He'd be the one on the mic calling what period we're doing.
Starting point is 00:22:08 It's kind of like an almost like an assistant head coach. Yeah. Yeah. And so we spend a lot more time with Sorensen. And he comes inside with us and we'll watch our sets for a poit and kickoff and field goal on our own, which Bowen's never really got an opportunity to do. So, yeah, we were really enjoying having him here. Did you get to watch your tackle like in front of the whole team with everybody watching it or just the special teams guys?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, mixed, well, not the whole team, special teams, but at that point in time, we had all four phases and field goal and field goal block in. So just about everyone, except for the quarterbacks and, you know, the wide receivers that are not playing any special teams. So, yeah, I got to see it in front of them. Everyone cheered and hollered and, like, ooh, that sort of thing. But the message was, yeah, we had two major issues on this play that sprung this guy free. And luckily, Brand was there to clean it up. But we don't want to see this ever again. So let's get it cleaned up on our end and make sure.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He doesn't have to do that again. Do you guys do, I got to imagine, because wouldn't, don't some head coaches work in, like, funny stuff or motivational videos or? Oh, yeah, you talk about a mojo moment? I'm just wondering what shoddy, it feels like shoddy's made for that kind of stuff. But it seems like there's memes. It'll pop up probably in our, like, game review video that pump up for the next week on Saturday, where we show up. all the big plays from the previous game trying to like build up energy for the game or maybe in the theater does a game management segment every week on on Fridays that'll kind of show
Starting point is 00:23:59 what's going around in the league sometimes he puts in cool plays from our game so there's still a couple opportunities for it to pop up in front of the full team okay that's fun I didn't know you guys did that have you seen that Philip Rivers is coming back I did it's like for me why do you keep quarterbacks on the roster all year in preparation for an injury and then not use them obviously they have their reasons but odd one for me I feel like give your I know they're kind of in a weird situation where they were really hot and now they're really cold and they need a couple of wins to get into the playoffs so maybe in desperation mode making that move but I don't think you just give your guys on the roster that have been there all years a shot first. What are your guys' thoughts as far as your mode? I don't know if it's backs against the wall, but you've got to win everything, right? Yeah, it doesn't change.
Starting point is 00:24:56 It's just find a way to win a game and then look around after and just keep going. If we're knocked out of it, we're knocked out of it, but we're going to do our best to win football games because that's what we're paid to do. Should I triple play the Cowboys this week? you're not allowed to pick the cowboys ever again oh yeah bad news banned oh man
Starting point is 00:25:22 I deserve that I do want to apologize to you Brandon because you know there are some groups on the plane that pay for the ultimate Cowboys experience and they get to go to a road game and what have you and I was walking back to my seat there's Brandon I always want to give him a fist bump
Starting point is 00:25:37 say you know good job good seeing you he asked me about Peter but I think Brandon that unlocked the door for the people behind me to then talk to you. So you got a lot of, I overheard a lot of small talk and I just wanted to apologize because I heard a lot of, hey, great kick, 63, man, that's awesome. Yeah. No worries. It's harmless. They're just passing by. I want to say a few words. So it's all good. And it's worth it to talk to Blake. Boy, isn't that true. That's a good place to end.
Starting point is 00:26:07 All right, man. Well, good times. Enjoy turpentine time. Yeah. Appreciate it, guys. See you, bud. There he goes. Brandon Aubrey. Brought to us by Community Mechanical. I didn't bring this up to him because it's like, hey, Boban. You know how funny you are?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah. But the update on Brandon Aubrey and how many fantasy points he has this season. More than Justin Jefferson, Saquan Barkley, Ashton Genty, and Drake London. He would rank as the 22nd best quarterback in points, the 12th best running back, the 7th best wide receiver, and the second best tight end if he was in any of those other position groups. That's an incredible, incredible, amazing stat. And it might be because I don't really understand the finer points of fantasy, but do you get more for longer ones? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Do you get more for higher leverage ones? No. Okay. Just six for 65 for 55. That's fine. I just... Yeah, if he's nailing 55-yarders... It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You're going to get a lot of points. Like, he had 22 points last week in my league. And certainly better if it's weighted on distance, but it's also kind of tough because I'm a huge fan of the team he kicks for, and I wish a lot of those would have been touchdowns. Yeah, it's the curse of having Brandon Aubrey, right? And I don't... I don't...
Starting point is 00:27:35 Honestly, you said that the other day, I don't really think that's a big problem. It can't, I see, I could see how it could be. If, a kicker or a pitcher in different sports, whatever. But if you were their kicker and they're going for a 58 yarder, they're like, you know what, we better go for this. Well, of course, yeah, but I'm just saying I think shoddy's bit of kicking is more because he's shoddy than Brandon Aubrey. And there may be some in the middle there where it leans more kick, but I don't know. It's great.
Starting point is 00:28:08 You mentioned Philip Rivers. Oh, actually, let's just promote a Trident. We were at our Christmas party the other night. It was a lot of the advertisers were there. It was at a golf course, and that golf course, their garage door busted. Oh, no, it did? Just a complete mess. I couldn't tell.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Well, I guess they had no answers then. No, no. It was actually because Jeremy at Trident Access Services was there. He was just able to take care of things right away. Those guys are great, man. They are. Been to my house. Been to my house.
Starting point is 00:28:41 In fact, he was yelling at me. In a just world, that's a drop in an hour. He's like the only... Been to my house. 15 minutes. What is it called? Just the maintenance checkup or... The tune up?
Starting point is 00:28:54 The tune up. He said, we've been out to everybody's house except Jake's for a tune-up. So the ball is in your court right now to call Trident Access Services or go online. Jake, mention that you heard about them on the dumb. zone. And then you can get the fall tune-up special. And it's great because they actually found some pretty significant problems that my old garage door company had created, put new stuff in there, remounted it, put the new bearings in and whatnot, rollers. And in fact, Jeremy was telling me that day, he goes, one of your sit-ins at the den contacted me and remarked about how, like,
Starting point is 00:29:37 right baby's bottom in there how silent the garage door is yeah it's great i went in there to study the other day yeah you uh you're uh you know if you need to sneak in and out sure who knows uh i'm not going to judge you in your lifestyle unless you don't contact trident at tx trident dot com 817 512 12 12 you mentioned philip rivers and the two biggest notes coming out about Philip Rivers joining the Colts right now is one is, hey, is this the first grandpa ever to play? And that's been answered pretty quickly
Starting point is 00:30:15 with people saying, yeah, Brett Favreve was actually a grandpa, which totally checks out. And Philip Rivers is a grandpa too, but he's got 50 kids as well. The other note is that his Hall of Fame eligibility the second he signs to an active roster is reset to five years after he retires
Starting point is 00:30:40 because he's in his he is one of 26 semifinalists for this year's Hall of Fame class because it's been five years so that will reset And what's very weird to me about this note is that who in the hell is sitting around talking about Philip Rivers is going to make the Hall of Fame? Are you kidding?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah, I mean, my first thought when I heard that was that exact same thing. You know, as Romo, AFC Romo. He's West Coast Romo, yeah. So I don't know that I ever thought of him as a definite. But he did play a lot longer than Romo. and is there something to and he was still good
Starting point is 00:31:25 he was like okay anyways I mean I don't have in front of me my guess is he played another four or five years beyond Romo wasn't he not good when he went to the Colts he wasn't horrible I made the playoffs they did yeah
Starting point is 00:31:38 they had a good team hmm well F me but still dude I mean what's he been doing for five years like I know he throws the ball to high school kids they went 11 and 5 his last year
Starting point is 00:31:51 in Indy well then definitely if me i guess i mean he didn't have a great year to your point at a qbr 55 which is basically just mid you know uh 24 touchdowns 11 picks he said he had an okay year but he did win 11 games but it was also 2020 dude like what are we talking about what's his what's his he's gonna play 60 snaps of offense he could die like do you think he's working at out a lot. Like watching his sugar intake for inflammation and recovery?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Like I know he's not getting tackled, but you still have to, I don't know, man. I see this as being something all of America tunes in for. They're playing the Seahawks, right? Yeah. What's the spread? It was 13 and a half this morning or last night. And the Seahawks defense has been a. obliterating people.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And he's starting? Well, I mean, they haven't said, but everybody's saying, like, if he's healthy, he's going to play. Like, they have no time to waste. Why do it if you're not going to do it right away? Their playoff hopes are dwindling. I'm kind of with Brandon, though. So you have these other quarterbacks in the, like, Ripon.
Starting point is 00:33:15 You're saying that, what's his name? There's Brett Ripon. There's Riley Leonard. Many other name generator whites. But guys who have been with them, you know, doing stuff with them all year long. Well, I wasn't going to say this to Brandon and get bogged down, but that's not really the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:39 They have a salary cap. They can only pay guys so much. So they may not think either one of those guys are worth a shit to try to win a game. They just help them run practice. They're in meetings. They run, you know, they're on. And is Philip Rivers joining them for the NFL minimum? I haven't.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I don't know. I assume. I don't know his money. Yeah. But that's the part I'm confused by is it he's the better option. I wouldn't be surprised if they called like who's a good example. I can't even think. Alex Smith.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Cam Newton's another good one. Yeah. He's in the news. Although he's been out of the league for a while too. Well, he inserted himself in the situation because he said he's six years younger than Philip Rivers and didn't get. the call from the Colts. Oh, so he's in the news
Starting point is 00:34:25 because he put himself in the news. Correct. It's Kim Newton. Saad sent us this. Better or worse idea than Jeff Saturday as your coach? Boy, was Jeff Saturday his coach? Philip Rivers actually played quarterback. Saturday was never a coach? It was Jeff Saturday as coach. No. Jeff Saturday was like two years ago. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Philip Rivers was 20-20. Oh, that's right. His only end of year he was 11 and 5 yeah Saturday certainly wasn't and he was Jeff Saturday was a mid-season and he won his first game and they he was on ESPN like the week before and I don't know I
Starting point is 00:35:05 I believe in recovery and like you know AA and everything but it's pretty clear that for a long time the Colts were run by like a drug addict and it sort of flows through everything that they do. Just weird stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Like, weird family stuff. Here's a little bit of audio. I swear I'm up. You are up. Okay, well, then I'd kill me. What if you just yell about it? While we wait, Romo played, or started 127 games, Rivers 240.
Starting point is 00:35:41 So he played twice as many games. I think this thing came unpluged. Maybe we'll deal with this later. Underneath the desk. Almost double as many games. but really not much more playoff success, right? No.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, what has he done in the playoffs at all? Let's see. Yeah. Any wins? Yeah, you had to have a couple, I'm sure. Any AFC championship games? Doubtful. Let's see here.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So what do you guys want to hop into next? Do you want to keep going? Do you want to do Sharon Moore and football stuff? Do you want to do viewer mail? Do you want me to try to fix my audio? One championship. Yeah, if it's just unplugged, then... Yeah, we'll call it sports.
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Starting point is 00:38:14 How do you think he got the job? And attempting to fix the audio. Do you want me to start with some sports? We could just see if this works. Okay. I don't know. And really, we need to troubleshoot it either way, so let's see. Wait, what do you wait right now?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Right the second. Okay, we're asking Philip Rivers what he weighs right now. And Blake has saved the day, folks. Wait, what do you wait right now? Right the second. Yes. I'm not sure. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Oh, my. That's how it sounded? Yes, and that's, like, on a good mic, too. Then he takes the mic in his hand, he starts walking around, like, where are you from? Yeah. What do you do? Blicks a little cigarette butt. Reporter, huh?
Starting point is 00:39:01 People these days. Play that again? I'm not sure. Jesus. Greg, and not what it was when I walked up for him off. But then I fall that up with it. I can never run away from anybody anyway. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Dude, I'm telling you. He's destroying. People are not going to get enough of this. Dude, Flacko opened. Flacko's out. Now Phillip Rivers is here. You're our old news, dude. Marching around like Dane Cook.
Starting point is 00:39:39 We got a new old quarterback that we think is really interesting. Going nine for 50 or something. It's going to be great. It's going to be great, especially if they get their head kicked in. It'd be great to see how this shakes out either way. I kind of wish Jerry didn't set up Romo with that CBS job. I would have liked to see him go somewhere else and keep playing. I know you say his back was broke, but he was at that level, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:07 where he's seeing the field differently. Sure, but I think the difference, yes. But if he could have gone somewhere that really protected him. Yeah. I mean, Peyton Manning, whatever, you know. But I don't, the Jerry smooth transition, golden parachute in the broadcast world, definitely helped. But I think it was also helped by Romo not really wanting to do it anymore. You think?
Starting point is 00:40:30 Like, Dack seems like the type they'll have to, like, you know, drag off the field. Philip Rivers kind of had a little bit of that, too. I just feel like Romo was kind of, he was never really that hard of a worker. He was, but I don't know. It didn't seem like he was ready to fight for it. Tom Brady-level dedication to his craft. No. No.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So I don't know that that ever was going to be an option for him. So this Troy Aikman thing went kind of viral where he had a comment, and I'm going to go beyond the clip a little bit. But he doesn't like NIL. He was on the Richard Deich, Deich podcast. I'm going to go ahead and enter my. my second, maybe third decade of not exactly knowing how to say his last name. I think you spell it O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-E-G-G-G-G-G-D, but it's hard to pronounce. He smells his own forts.
Starting point is 00:41:33 He does. He's why Hillary lost. Bingo. All right, anyway, Aikman on N-A-L. Ready to tell you how great the W-N-B-A is. I gave money to a kid. I won't mention who. I've done it one time at UCLA,
Starting point is 00:41:48 never met the young man. He was there a year. He left after the year. I wrote a sizable check. And he went to another school. I didn't even get so much as a thank you note. You know, so it's one of those deals to where I'm done with NIL.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I mean, I want to see UCLA be successful, but I'm done with it. Yeah, that's funny. You're like that's old man? Well, I feel like it's sensible. You should say thank you. But it's also old man.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah. You kind of know the rules of the game you're getting into here, right? So from the L.A. Times, they report that the player in question didn't know who funded his particular NIL deal. That was going to be the first thing I said, is that it's not like Troy made the checkout to NICO or whoever. It's, you just write it to a general fund. It says here, he knew. that it was coming from the team's collective called Men of Westwood.
Starting point is 00:42:46 It was standard practice for players not to know which donors or alumni contributed to NIL funds that were distributed to the team. Aikman did receive thanks from the men of Westwood leadership, coach Chip Kelly, and the athletic director,
Starting point is 00:43:03 according to the person familiar with this situation. Okay, well, none of those matter. So. To me, if Troy's beef is that he feels somebody who knows that, he made that possible, should say thanks to him, then he should have that beef.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Well, and then I guess the player also transferred the next year. Now, on that part, that's called the way it is. Okay, so he was asking about, he got into that because he was asked by Richard Dietz-Ditch, about the Lane Kiffin situation. And Troy kind of gave a, a pretty much a, Hey, all things are kind of bad, but, hey, if Lane Kiffin thought this was a better thing for him and a better situation, then I can't fault Lane Kiffin.
Starting point is 00:43:52 You know, guys got to do what's right for him. We don't know all the ins and outs of all the situation. Okay. So he's kind of like, I see where everybody's coming from. I see where, you know, all the schools are coming from. But, you know, Lane Kiffin, I see where he's coming from, too. I'm not going to criticize Lane Kiffin. okay it's well it's this part okay let me just play you this then this is directly preceding his
Starting point is 00:44:22 talk about the n i'll there uh where i'm out with it is i think there's got to be some leadership at the very top that kind of cleans all of this up and and and starting with uh players that accept money there's got to be some accountability and responsibility on their half to have to have to stick with a program. I gave money to a kid. I won't mention who. And now he goes into that cut you just heard. Where I have a problem with Troy Aikman here, and I very rarely have a problem with what Troy Aikman says, is this. And starting with players that accept money, there's got to be some accountability. Okay. So all, and this is what all old men do
Starting point is 00:45:11 I put myself in there too. Generally, people will be like, well, we've got to start with these goddamn kids. Yeah. Who are taking all this money. And then they just both the next year. We just talked about Lane Kiffin and you just said, hey, if Lane Kiffin has his reasons, maybe
Starting point is 00:45:27 it's where the quality of living in a certain place, maybe it's money, maybe it's his family, maybe it's a, then I got a side with Lane Kiff. What is different about that for a kid? Man, I'm sure that somebody much smarter than me can come up with a reason why that's totally different, but that feels like you're just invalidating your coach argument immediately
Starting point is 00:45:46 the second you say that about the player. But he is correct in that somewhere at the top, they need some kind of a leadership at the top. Okay, when you have the structure that the NFL is, they have leadership at the top, they have the whole league, and they say, okay, well, guess what? If a coach signs a contract, he also sticks it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:07 A player signs a contract. he sticks it out. If you want to keep escaping your responsibility to fairly pay players, which they are still doing, you think they're, they have collectives which are collecting money to pay players. They're scurring their responsibility. They're spending the money on their own. But if you keep wanting to overly profit, because you're going to profit no matter what, but then you're going to get this. And within the college football system, you can't complain about the players. Bolting for, because they have many reasons.
Starting point is 00:46:43 It might be, are they going to get an opportunity to start? It might be, you know, Troy did say in there, too, he thought players, if their coach leaves, they should be able to leave. Okay. Why should it be that? Why wouldn't you say, oh, if a coach loses 50% of his players, he could leave? And there's so many other things. What a position coach, like whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I agree with you, though, that, I mean, just focusing on the player part of it is the easy part of it. I was just going to bring up to Troy and maybe this is kind of like how we heard that other media companies weren't exactly real excited to get involved with us as we were fighting another one because they can all kind of use the same tools. Troy Aikman's broadcast partner was allowed to make a pretty strange move regarding his contract where he just said I'm leaving and they're like, okay, well, I guess there's nothing we can do about it. He was under contract and just made a bit, you know, they made a, nobody really talks about
Starting point is 00:47:45 that because Joe Buck's a great dude. Troy was out of contract, right? Correct. And got snatched up by ESPN. And I mean, it's not quite, like, I don't think we, uh, we've retconned the, uh, Eli Manning and his dad and then being like bitch ass all the time. We, we just let that go, that your dad just is like, I don't want, I don't want my son to have to work at that job.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And so I'm going to step in here. That's insane. Like, we just let that, we let that cook. I don't know. To me, it's not that different. You're talking about when he was getting drafted? Yeah. Like he demanded that San Diego is going to have to trade him.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah. Yeah. We just. Well, that's NFL royalty, the Manning's. And so, Peyton was already kind of good. Yeah. Of course. I'm just saying, like, once that's behind you, nobody brings it up.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Joe Buck's a great dude. Nobody wants to be like, boy, that's kind of a weird deal. But Joe Buck straight up said, I'm powerful enough to say F you to my company. I don't care that I'm under contract. So it would be weird now if Troy was like, what kind of asshole would just take one $10 million a year job for a $14 million a year job and leave everybody in their way? That's why I just find it funny that you first thing that has to be addressed is these guys the players. Yeah, because that's the one he wrote a. check to. That's the one he's mad about right now. And you know, dude, like, as much as Troy probably
Starting point is 00:49:12 wants to help and does care about young athletes, like somebody's, his kids are probably sending him the player that left's Instagram being like, look at this. He's just flaunting it, you know, just getting pissed. Like, fuck out of the kid, like a half a million dollar. Yeah, he said it was substantial. I'm interested to know what that means. I don't, it's interesting. Because, like, I, I imagine that like old guys who run like large car dealerships and write big checks get pissed off when the kids leave too but you just don't
Starting point is 00:49:44 I just assume it's part of the deal like they leave they're not going to not leave because you're like God what will Troy Aitman think it's not going to come up my little shoddy shisty shoddy
Starting point is 00:49:59 shoddy shoddy I didn't know that's what that was called So on Hard Knocks, I didn't watch Hard Knocks, did you? No. Ooh. I know. I know you love Hard Knocks. You kind of...
Starting point is 00:50:14 I'll watch it. Probably. Get to it, I guess. Anyway, so a shy-sty, is that what George Pickens wears? Yes. It's kind of like, it's not a ski mask, but it's like a ski mask, but it has just the face open. Right. So it covers your chin, covers your head, your neck, your ear.
Starting point is 00:50:34 It's got like a longer, too, than a ski mask. You know, it's usually going to go, like you said, your neck all the way down. Is it a whole shirt with that? No. Okay. Well, I guess Shoddy wore one on Hard Knocks, and he was asked about it. This is the cool. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And then saw that that deck gave you the shysity to wear it practice and that hard knocks. That's the first time you ever wore one? Yeah, I didn't really like it. I couldn't breathe. Yeah, I don't know why those guys like it so much. But I thought, hey, this is the cool thing going on. Let me try it. It's kind of like the 6-7 thing a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I'm a hip guy. But, yeah, I didn't really like it. It didn't stay on very long. God. Did he say he's a hip guy? He's a hip guy. How did we end up? We go from Jason Garrett and his love of the Rockettes to this.
Starting point is 00:51:21 This guy's just a P.E. teacher. He's got some interesting things he says about Trayvon Diggs, but first he's got a couple of bingos. He has asked about Brian Flores, the defensive coordinator for the vice. What I love about Brian and what he does is like if you look at them last year, they're a little bit different than they are this year. They're still very multiple. Look at their roster. He has a affinity in a good way for veteran players. Why? Well, they know football. They're smart. They can be multiple. They can make adjustments. We know why. We have one more bingo as he is talking about the fact that there is one quarter of the season left. Before you play, when talking about Brian Flores, it's not really a Kimspin, but does anything come to your mind revolving a Cowboys beatwriter? I can never think about Brian Flores without thinking about Clarence Hill saying that the Dolphins should have hired a minority coach. Okay, that's a great pool.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah, that's a great pool. And a lot of people, yes, yes. The story was that after he tweeted that and people were like, he's black. The Mike McDaniel No, this is when they hired Brian Forres Oh, when they hired Brian Forge. So the ironic thing here is they would later hire Mike McDaniel Who turns out is kind of black
Starting point is 00:52:42 But first they hired Brian Flores Clarence was not aware And a lot of people were like, hey, he's a black guy And then later he got back to his phone And tweeted out, sorry, I lost my wallet earlier At the airport And it's like, what does that have anything to do? It's an amazing story.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Okay, I thought you were saying after Flores left and got Mike McDaniels, he was upset. That's why I was confused first at two because Mike McDaniel is a confusing one. No, Brian Flores, yes, not like a mariachi band leader, but very much a defensive coordinator. Clarence is like, I'm tired of this, the oppressive nature of the NFL. All right. Great pull, boys. Sorry. Let's get him one more bingo as he's discussing the fact that it's one quarter of the season is left.
Starting point is 00:53:32 You know, can't win the game in the first quarter, second, third, and fourth. We talked a little bit about this, and we talked about heading into this fourth quarter. You know, let's look at the season in that way, and I think we were one, two, and one in the first quarter. We were two and three in the second, and then now in the third quarter we're three and one. What's that mean? It means we're playing better, means we're playing more consistent. Yeah. It means we're three and one.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But Trayvon Diggs was an interesting update here. He's not saying things, but he's not saying things. saying things about Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon's back, and he's practicing. Oh, I'm sorry. Gosh, darn it. In terms of Trayvon, I mean, he's still in the ramp-up period. I think he does feel healthy. I know he wants to play, but at the end of the day, we have to do what we think is in the best interest of not just him, but also the football
Starting point is 00:54:24 team. And when you miss time, the ramp-up period is good, not just for your body, but for your mind and figuring out some of the defense. And there's some new faces. in the huddle and things like that. So, again, love him as a player, but ultimately he's got to show us he's ready to do everything the right way. So that was interesting. Love him as a player.
Starting point is 00:54:47 He's got to show us he's going to do everything the right way. Todd Archer will follow up on that. Brian, Todd Archer, with ESPN, and you say show us doing everything the right way. Is that beyond the, in the meeting rooms and things like that as well? Everything. Just be, yeah, consistency through everything.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I mean, he's no different than Dak Prescott or, you know, Jake Ferguson or Kenny Clark. You just, you know, continue to do everything the right way. And, you know, I thought last week was a good first step and hopefully this week's even better step. And if it is, then you'll see him out there. Translation, it feels like they were really targeting
Starting point is 00:55:25 Chavon Ravel Thursday night. And we need bodies out here. if we're going to try to make a run here. Well, what are you translating, though, with why we're not using Trayvon then? Because he's Trayvon and he's not showing us that he's a team guy. Correct. He's pretty much acting like he can't wait to get to Green Bay or wherever in this off-season. Like, he knows.
Starting point is 00:55:51 He's gone. Everybody knows that Trayvon Diggs is gone after this year. What could happen to keep him here? a furious last four games and a renegotiation of his contract. Otherwise, like Trayvon Diggs will not be here. He knows it. Is he already kind of half out the door? And just not coming to meetings, not going to practice enough.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I got a concussion at home, and I came in and told you all about it right away. That's a very strange situation. He didn't like that as the guy who likes old school football players. Like, hey, don't tell us you got a concussion at home. Just come play. Sure. I'll bet he didn't like that. I'll bet nobody on the team likes that.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Like publicly, they would say they like that because they want the best for all their players. They absolutely do not want you to come in and say, no. Even if you did get a concussion at home. So I wanted to tell you about the story of Michigan, the story we were telling Brandon about. This is a wild one.
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Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah, life size. It's a whole wall. Yeah. All right, so thank you, Game Day, Men's Health. Did you do thegameday.com? You probably see that, right? So, for, I've heard this, I've always said Sharon Moore, but I heard these guys on a Michigan podcast saying Sharon Moore this morning.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Now I'm looking over there at these guys. But Sharon Moore was fired yesterday by the University of Michigan. and he became the coach under strange circumstances it's basically the fallout of what happened when Harbaugh left because they were under all kinds of investigations
Starting point is 00:59:11 of course there's the Connor Stallions thing oh yeah there was because Moore was hired in 2018 as a tight-ins coach 2021 he becomes co-o-o-c and O-Line coach but 23
Starting point is 00:59:25 was the the year that Harbaugh had to sit out a few games because he had done some illegal recruiting during COVID. It was known as Burger Gate. He was like buying players burgers. This is only four or five years ago, Dan.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And you could get suspended for that. I thought he was suspended because of the Connor. Okay. The first time, the start of the 2023, he was suspended as part of a series of recruiting violations.
Starting point is 00:59:59 This more served as head coach for two of those games, but not all three because he was suspended himself at the time. For the recruiting? Yeah. This guy has been suspended before. Like they signed, they promoted him in 2024 to head coach. And he was under investigation at the time. He was suspended at the start of this season, two games, a self-imposed suspension. And as I was reading about this, I was reminded, this isn't, I don't want to say it's not the worst of the Michigan, you know, allegations and situations.
Starting point is 01:00:39 But, like, do you, did you recall they had another assistant this offseason that was underinvestigated and fired? No, it's all kind of lumped together for me. They had a guy named Matt Weiss, who was on the football staff, was making almost a million dollars a year. and had launched a massive hacking ring to get into the eye clouds of college female college athletes all over the country. Yeah. So because what happened here is I was on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I was on Twitter and somebody's like, you think this Sharon Moore thing is bad. It's not even the most interesting scandal they've had. And they were like, I'm not talking Connor Stout. so then you look it up and uh this article is crazy there's an interview with some attorney in here it says this is really prolific it's not a ton of victims for someone overseas running a hacking ring or something but in terms of a single individual not trying
Starting point is 01:01:44 to financially profit this is the most prolific example i've ever seen she basically called them a real beater i love of the game i've never seen anybody do this much hacking So that guy, you know, he's facing legal trouble for that. And then at the same time that this... So he was just hacking accounts of ladies? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, how come I haven't...
Starting point is 01:02:12 Don't sound so like, okay. Yeah, I'm with you. I just feel like we should have heard about this. Again, he'd previously worked a dozen years with the Ravens in the NFL. And, yeah, he had thousands of women. and most of them college athletes getting into their college emails faces years in prison, et cetera. But so while that's happening, Sharon Moore starts to have an affair. He's married.
Starting point is 01:02:42 He starts to have an affair with a staffer. And public records show that, like, her salary as a staffer went from 58 to 90 grand when everyone else stayed at 58. jobs were you know she's getting promotions um and earlier this month the athletic department got an anonymous tip that he was engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member um which by the way is not illegal like that's not an NCAA violation uh having a relationship with a student athlete is but it's not like he didn't do anything illegal at that point um but michigan's interested in it because it's a staffer you know and he's directing funding he's directing resources
Starting point is 01:03:36 yesterday morning the ad makes the decision based on his investigation and there's a lot of rumors like that he knocked her up she wanted the abortion and her consolation prize was a $32,000 raise in a, I don't know, small mid-sized sedan or so, I don't know, it's like a small payoff for now you've got to keep this human life and that there were stalking allegations, but through all that, the Michigan Athletic Department decides yesterday were done and he finds out that the AD is meeting with his staff and his team at the athletic complex. And he's not there. At some point, he takes off to an apartment complex in Ann Arbor.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Police respond to a domestic dispute. The internet sleuths, unconfirmed, say that the other woman lives there. And he was kind of briefly, like, on the run. They couldn't find him. He's running from a domestic dispute. There's rumors that he, like, you know, basically threatened her, threatened himself. kill you bitch kill myself that all bit ruined my life so i mean yeah because he was getting fired like for cause right yeah they're not going to be paying him off no he probably just
Starting point is 01:05:06 lost himself you know what 30 to 50 million dollars because you know you can bounce back from the affair big time if they had beaten ohio state this year just that's not actually I mean it's not a bad bad question but if he if he actually did what if he did anything to the point where they were going to arrest him
Starting point is 01:05:31 in Ann Arbor at a domestic dispute you're getting fired no matter if you're undefeated yeah but he was getting fired before that right yeah so you're saying yeah if it's just all the other if it's just the side piece abortion
Starting point is 01:05:48 but they're 12 and 0 he's probably not getting fired no you know they've been okay but maybe this is the new world of college football the new world of college football
Starting point is 01:06:03 we're just going to be looking for reasons is that the money is so big the coaches matter so much or at least they are perceived to there's so much on the line with playoff spots that while before you could just run you could just be a terribly shitty person in a small college town
Starting point is 01:06:19 and be the college coach for like two decades and nobody really cared what you were doing on the side as long as you were kind of okay good but now if Portnoy buys your quarterback and you don't beat Ohio State you're out because every one of these guys has a litany of things
Starting point is 01:06:35 that if people wanted to put out there they would look like absolute awful human beings there are no saints and there are no real there's maybe 5% of these dudes are actual good dudes the rest of them are fucking
Starting point is 01:06:51 roughneck. There's a lot of sex going on in football staffs. It's just there's a lot of bonnance. A bunch of teed up dudes that are running around on the road. Like none of these dudes are angels. No, it's weird that
Starting point is 01:07:06 yes, we want, we love these sports and we love watching it and stuff and then sometimes you start looking into it and you want their lifestyles to fit into what we consider everyday normal society standards.
Starting point is 01:07:25 You're a boring-ass job. You also want them at their job to be running through walls and playing through broken bones and but act like this perfect and I'm not endorsing, you know, rape or whatever it is, but that's why you get create, that's
Starting point is 01:07:40 you talk to Charles Haley about that. Yeah. You almost, you think Jimmy Johnson's upset that he got a bipolar guy on his team? No, no. Turn him loose. Hopefully he's going, you know, let's not take any meds. We're playing the Giants today. You know?
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah. I need you being an absolute maniac, insane person. But then once you get off the field, you must bow down and, you know, Kirksey and talk to this guy who can't run like a 12-minute mile with a recorder in front of you because he's got some questions about your performance tonight. Do that gentlemanly? Yeah, and let him kind of. Be all snarky because he knows you're not allowed to hit him out here in the real world.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Say all that's to say, Sharon Moore probably went a little too far. I don't think you want to condone that action, but you can't have it in your building. Just this world, too. We've talked about the NIL, and if you now see in Indiana can come up, are there any more? Hey, you can just kind of coast here for two decades and be kind of good. No, that's gone. That is gone. At every, because now Northwestern's going to make, wait.
Starting point is 01:08:50 What if we pay a bunch of money for a coach and get good, like Indiana did? For sure. Now, the funny thing is Michigan is that this is happening to them, like, after Penn State was already subject to the, how is Penn State ever going to find a coach? It's so late. Yeah. Now Michigan's coach. Well, you can always find a coach. Can you find a name that you really feel, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:15 But the name doesn't always work. I lost her already. Yeah, that's why. It's a crazy story, though, man. That's why you might want to Jerry Jones it and just find a guy that nobody ever wanted to be a coach and pay him very little. If it works out, everyone will think you're a genius.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I'd like to salute you for not looking up what this woman look like. We've been talking about this for like over 10 minutes now. Oh, I saw this morning. Oh, okay. Yeah, sorry. Good looking lady. Yeah, yeah. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:09:45 The head coach of Michigan's, uncons? uncovering some root No, but Sometimes, you know, if you're just going to do what's in the staff Like housekeeper Yeah If you're grabbing what's there Not even a house hot house
Starting point is 01:09:57 Hot housekeeper Yeah But I'm not saying there's a bunch of roots working in college athletic programs But they're not all tens either folks No, but this lady looked like She'd been through the She could be on the back of a Motorcycle with
Starting point is 01:10:12 Who is that Petrino? Oh, okay. Yeah, for sure. Who coached at Arkansas this year. Yes. Let's check her out. Where is she these days?
Starting point is 01:10:21 I think she got back together with the dude. Like Bobby Petrino can get a job back at Arkansas. Can she just walk around Arkansas? Everything's cool? I would imagine not. Probably not. I was thinking about that too this morning. People are saying like, oh, this woman's life is ruined.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And maybe it's just because I tried to ruin mine. But your life, you can bounce back from anything. It's really not. Yeah. I mean, whatever, you know? People are not going to remember this story unless they have a website dedicated to them remembering this sort of shit in a week. Maybe in, like, small town, but she'll be fine. Let's do viewer mail.
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Starting point is 01:13:05 What do you want to do it? Zoom would be better. Okay. I'm a shoot a Zoom link over to this number. We'll see what happens. I'll save my gummy thought that I started last week and got interrupted. Robert says, I'm not sure if you care. I do, Robert.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I wanted to help clean up what a socialite is. Unfortunately, I know because my wife and her mother are socialites. Oh, my. You got the basics. Rich women who like functions. Like the math problems? I don't want to hear about functions. These people didn't just invent the luncheon.
Starting point is 01:13:47 They redefined it. Think $1,000 a plate to eat mediocre banquet food and listen to some chick from a badder women's shelter. God. The umbrella of socialite includes things like Rotary Club, debutante balls, all events with the word gala in the invitation. and other luncheons with overly priced admission. It's all done behind the force field of charity, but as I'm sure you know, the budgets of many of these are suspect to say the least.
Starting point is 01:14:21 In general, at least in this part of the country, you could say being a socialite is maga-coded. By the way, calling things coded is gay. It is gay. Definitely why Hillary lost. I do it a lot. Probably going to keep doing it, but it is. is very gay.
Starting point is 01:14:38 That's from Robert. It's a useful tool. Wow. That's interesting. So she just inherited being a socialite. Like, it's like the Manning family. Yeah. I mean, if you get raised doing certain things, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Maybe you just slide right into that. It's probably fun, you know, you got a lot of money. I think when I was a kid. Hang out with other people who got a lot of money. Yeah, I mean, I guess if you have no, like. Kind of helps some kids sometimes? Well, I mean, if you're doing that part. Yeah, I'm just saying you're a socialite
Starting point is 01:15:08 doing a $1,000 plate lunch in maybe not all the money's going to those kids, but some of it more than if you didn't do anything. That's a good point. That's what you're sitting there telling yourself. We were going to spend this money and eat lunch together anyway. But now we help half a kid. I think I used to think that
Starting point is 01:15:28 being a debutante was like a junior prostitute. Is that not? What is a debutante? I thought it was just a mini socialite. It's an old word for socialite. Oh, it's not like younger ones? Yeah, I always thought like beauty pageant kind of lady. White kids and year, I like that.
Starting point is 01:15:49 But don't they like assign them to men or something? Aren't they like, hey, yo. I read about it in the Dallas book. We had the Irving Bells, which was a debutante ball every year with all the hot chicks and the high schools in Irving. But I just don't know what that. what is that okay aristocratic upper class all right anyhow i have a remote picture and a remote follow-up for you okay um throw the picture hit me with the good stuff what do we got this week oh i did this one oh you did i think i did it when you were gone zoomo uh and voodoo on one remote
Starting point is 01:16:27 yeah is great but we were really focused on the confidence of the people at i heart radio to need to get an embedded image on it. Okay, well, here's the follow-up. Because I believe we made fun of Crunchyroll. Yeah. And Brian tells us that Crunchyroll is still alive and well. There's a lot of anime, manga, and related content on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:51 There's so much more going on in the world than you realize. I don't know that it justifies a remote button, but like Sarah Hepelow was telling me the other night at our Christmas party that she went to the Netflix house opening. Oh, yeah. It sounded really cool. I don't really understand it. I want to have her in to talk about it because she said they have like a squid game room.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Yeah, so it's not. I thought it was just going to be where you'd go see Netflix movies, but like with a kick-ass screen and audio setup. But she was saying, oh, no, it's like these experiences. And one of them, she's like, okay, there's stranger things. The other one is, uh, um, and she's like, it's a. pirate manga anime. I'm like, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:35 What? She says, yeah, that's, so that's of the same size to some, in some way as stranger things. And I've never heard of it before. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And she's like, this is a, it's massive. It's massive, massive. Yeah. Like, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I have a couple, I got a two for here that's really good. Uh, from Travis. We're talking the other day about the drones that were delivering drugs to a prison. They got caught. They had weed, cigarettes, crab legs, steak. Travis did a little bit of time we've talked about prison before. He says most of the time it's brought in by inmates because of familiarity with the guards. Whether you're an offender that gets to work outside the gates or when you get done with visitation, you're supposed to be completely stripped out. They check your mouth, they lift your nuts, spread your cheeks, and hand over all your clothes to the guard so he
Starting point is 01:18:34 can check the waistband or cuffs in the clothing. But a lot of guards really aren't trying to see your butthole. So they just strip you down to your boxers, they have you shake them a little bit. If you have a buddy that works in laundry, you can get a pocket sewn into the back of your boxers. I remember smoking a toothpick joint when I was housed wherever. He said it was $7 in commissary being mind-fucked as i watched the first ever episode of supernatural some guys would get spice sent in and smoke it every day before they went to their drug rehab classes for how you light it you just pop a socket with some toilet paper attached to it and light it with the flaming toilet paper any good to great lengths yeah yeah uh and marv has a buddy whose dad is
Starting point is 01:19:27 jail right now he said his dad told us that inmates at his facility make their own drugs to sell and use eddie had told me that they had a way of making toilet uh liquor he said they take a magazine empty an entire aerosol can onto a single page let it dry grind it into a powder then roll it up and smoke it my gosh i don't know if that's good for their health probably not he also said that they gamble it's common they don't have money they barter for everything with commissary goods sigs matches toilet paper they gamble heavily on sports but with a rule betters can't know the spread he said naturally my daddy's uh my buddy's dad called him to get the spread on bingles ravens he was confident he'd win saying these guys are dumb they don't know sports i know sports he took
Starting point is 01:20:21 the ravens and the points he lost and so did all the other inmates he'd tipped off. He reported that, quote, a lot of people in here are mad at me. Ooh, man. My buddy told him, chill the F out. You've been in for a month. Like, let's stay away from Picks entirely in jail. Let's stay away from basically anything that can get anybody upset with you. We need to have a prison roundtable sometime. Yeah, this guy's got a lot.
Starting point is 01:20:52 We've got enough prison listeners, I think. What does that say about us? diverse experiences and we believe in second chances and rehabilitation like I know I would hate prison because I hate being told what to do at all but I also like extreme routine mm-hmm what a conundrum
Starting point is 01:21:15 and come I love that love that I have dear uncle hotmail will there be a dumb zone calendar this year I was also asked this the other night at the party. Here's my take on the calendar. I think it's great when we do it and we do the whole thing original. But I think just, to me, just selling great pictures from throughout the year,
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Starting point is 01:22:25 to the sub-a-thon tab on dumbzone.com. Why not? You guys ready? Do you want him? Oh, hey, yeah. So a listener hit me up. This is Kyle. And we were talking about, maybe two weeks ago, about a big cockfighting ring in Alvaredo.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And he's like, hey, I've been to a bunch of these before. And I used to go to him. So, Kyle, do you read us here? I don't know how our phone is Yeah, I got you I got you how you doing fellas Hey what's up buddy Thanks for joining us today
Starting point is 01:23:00 So when you were doing this It was actually This used to be legal in Oklahoma As far as I knew it was It was a big deal Back in the day And I guess 95 to 2000s
Starting point is 01:23:15 Whenever we were going quite a bit It didn't seem like anything was legal They used to have Like a red and blue light on the inside And the one thing that you couldn't do You could fight roosters and everything, but if the red light came on, it meant like cops were there and you couldn't bet. Okay. So, that everything was fine.
Starting point is 01:23:32 So it's illegal. Well, they're alerting you that cops. You can't gamble. Yeah. Oh, but if the cops walked in and you're getting cop fighting, they're like, I'm seeing here that. All right. As long as you're not gambling. 2002 is what I'm seeing here.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Okay. So when you say like a light, it would be like outside of wherever this was taking place and where would it take place. It's like a warehouse, what's our, what's the arena? It's like a, it's like a big, a big barn. I think there's one that, the two casinos going through Wichita, you turn left by this big white building that says bingo on it. It's kind of faded now probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:14 That used to be a big one right there. That's where we used to fight all the time. Okay. And you would just, you'd hear about this in the community. You knew it was a, like you knew it was a regular thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We used to drive up there all the time, but the lights were on the inside. Like there's a big ring right in the middle, and then on each side of the ring connected are two smaller rings.
Starting point is 01:24:36 And then there's these big lights kind of in front of everything to where the people, there's huge chalkboards, and everybody writes their names down what each entry is called, and then there's these big lights right there. And as long as it was blue, everything was fine. But as soon as it turned red, you could go about your business doing everything you were doing. You just could not yell out your bet. You could not bet because there were cops around or there. Okay. And how do you...
Starting point is 01:25:01 If it was blue, then you could go. And they just set you up matchups. You win. And how often does the bird die? Like, can you keep fighting? Every time. Okay. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 01:25:13 So when you lose your day's done? Well, like you have, like they have a three cock, a four cock, five cock, six cock, a bunch of them. But usually we did like a forecock, and you would bring five roosters, and you would weigh all five roosters, and then everybody weighed their roosters, and then there was like an hour or two that you got matched by the weight of the rooster. And once your name was drawn, you got like 30 minutes to go back there, and you put on your gaffs or your knives, like in a locker room type deal, and then you come out and you meet in the ring, and they do all their little warm-up type things. It's like they, you kind of meet your rooster in the middle where they can see each other. Touch gloves. Touch gloves a little bit. Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:25:56 And bring them back and then bring them back to the line. And then they, it's like 10 feet in between them, maybe 12 on the first pit. And they take off towards each other. And it's awesome. Why do they start fighting? How do they instigate them? So, like, I don't know how to, I try to explain it like with a dog. I've never been to a dog fight.
Starting point is 01:26:18 I don't know anything about it besides I assume that as younger puppies, maybe they make them aggressive towards other dogs, and then they fight, is what I assume. With chickens or roosters, it's already bred into them. So, like as little bitty stags, like a year old, they're not fighting each other. But after a year, something clicks in them, I guess, is the only way I could say it. And they have to be, the roosters have to be away from each other. Or they'll fight.
Starting point is 01:26:47 I mean, if you put a mirror in front of a room, rooster he's going to fight that mirror until it's broke up and he can't see himself anymore like they're just game roosters they they're they're bred to fight but like it's already in them like you don't teach them how to fight or make them fight like they just do it honestly if you were worried about the humanity of it that makes me feel better about it like they're just that's what they want to do you're letting them do what they love you know kind of live fully back in the day whenever it was fixing to get outlawed I saw a bumper sticker and something to the gist of You're going to take my roosters.
Starting point is 01:27:20 You might as well take my fish and poe, dog, hunting, all that. I found it funny, but I got to thinking, you know, with like a bloodhound, it's bred to, you know, go find things. Like, that's what its nose is. And if it doesn't do that, is it, I mean, not that it doesn't have a purpose, but that's what it was supposed to do. With a game rooster, it's supposed to fight it. It's like many gladiators.
Starting point is 01:27:40 That's what they're supposed to do. Hell yeah. Did you ever have a favorite one? Yeah. I had one called Sweetheart and never pecked or anything, or he won all four of his fights, and then an owl got him one night. Oh, son of a bitch. Hey, but I will tell you a story.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Me and my dad went one time to one called Cripple Creek, and it was just me and him for one of the few times that we went together, and he was handling the roosters. It was just a little three-cock, and we got our asses kicked. And it was the end of the night, and we had an extra rooster, so. after the derby's over, if there's a lot of people left, you can kind of just fight your extra rooster. They'll weigh them and everything and just go in there and fight for like cash money. Well, we got our ass beating it, too, and we're walking out,
Starting point is 01:28:29 and as you're walking out of these big locker rooms, there's like piles of roosters. And there's this one rooster on top of this pile. I'm probably 12, maybe, maybe chest high, and there's this rooster up there. And he's kind of moving around, and he's not quite dead, but all the other ones are. and I just told my dad
Starting point is 01:28:47 I'm going to go grab him and see if I can doctor him back well on the ride home we get him and on the ride home dad started laughing he goes I wonder what that rooster thought after he got his ass whooped in that ring and he woke up on a pile of roosters thinking that he just walked everybody's ass in there and I said you know what that's pretty good idea
Starting point is 01:29:06 I was thinking of an idea about it so I docked him up and about two weeks later I sold that rooster for 250 bucks hell yeah there you go that's a success story you're a savior well Kyle thank you for being our reporter in the field yes sir
Starting point is 01:29:23 appreciate you listen all right you'll have good day guys see you man later awesome man there's so much going on I have zero idea about
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Starting point is 01:32:41 I asked if there was a name for last names like Taylor and Smith that are jobs and it's a pretty straightforward one but it's occupational surnames and there are way more than I've thought
Starting point is 01:32:55 oh Scott tells us it's called nominative determinism that would be the behavior of like if I somebody calls you something that you're more likely to fulfill it like that i guess the word describing the thing where someone gets a job that matches their name like docmatic is called not you're saying that's not it well saying it's called what if you had nominative nomative
Starting point is 01:33:26 determinism and you ended up in a field that then you would also then have an occupational surname right It's the idea that certain people will gravitate towards this or that. Okay. Based on their names. But, yeah, I just, I'd never heard that before. And there's a billion of them. Like what? Sawyer.
Starting point is 01:33:50 I don't think of Sawyer as somebody who cuts logs, but I probably, I guess you should. I didn't even know that was. Yeah. Turner turned wood on a lathe, like making. Okay, so these are the origin of these names. Yeah. But my point is just like I, my mom actually has one, and she does the job. But there's way more than I'd considered.
Starting point is 01:34:14 It's not just Baker. Yeah. And finally, I got this one. It's entitled Almost Happy Birthday is the subject line. He keeps his name anonymous. He says, my birthday is Saturday. So I asked off work on Friday, thinking I'd have a nice pre-year. birthday without the wife and kids
Starting point is 01:34:35 Wednesday night I'm lying in bed the wife says oh I took off on Friday so we could just hang out all day oh no and I told her awesome so yeah but there's no way she bought that you thought it was awesome
Starting point is 01:34:50 I don't know man ladies do like hanging out they live in a yeah they do a different word because world my wife apologized last night apologized that next week she'll be gone three nights in a row
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Starting point is 01:35:40 That's a write-off if you wanted to be. It should be a write-off. You know, we're American. We love committees. Let's get us a committee. Well, who should be on the committee? Well, I don't know. This guy's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Let's have him on the committee. Well, I mean, there's people on the committee that don't even have remote associations. with football, nor have they at any level other than being a fan. But you know what? Let's have them on a committee. Why not? And then we'll decide which four teams should go. Because you know why?
Starting point is 01:36:14 We don't need to solve this on the field because we're the ones that know. And then, um, um, so I mean, you know, if we're going to do it that way, we should just ask them at the beginning of the season, you know, just go ahead and you guys vote on it, figure out one, two, three, and four and why even have the games? I mean, how can you call it a playoff when there's four teams? Conference champions don't even necessarily make the playoffs, because you know why? Because the committee knew better.
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Starting point is 01:37:34 Yeah, so join us out there at Kane Roso. That's Blake's favorite Kane Roso. And maybe you can drag Blake out of there. Maybe. Go home. You can come to my house? Check out Blake. Why don't you invite people to your kid's birthday party?
Starting point is 01:37:50 Wouldn't that be great? Yeah. Just like everybody. Wouldn't that be great? I mean, people invite you to their birthday party and you don't return the favor. And I'm pissed. Before we do picks, let us pump up Oh, let's just give a little Lone Star Beer love.
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Starting point is 01:39:20 And they join us every week to pick games. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages. It is time for these picks. Well, let's help, shot it. Yes, indeed. There they are, folks. Exactly what you would think each one of them should be doing when they're not working on their show, Danny, in the studio.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Mike Soroy watching wrestling and cash cheroi working certainly on some kind of a spreadsheet, making money, doing business things. He knows what LLC means. Sure. Working on a deck. Oh, that's a big one. I bet he knows about quarterly taxes.
Starting point is 01:40:22 I literally never knew about quarterly taxes. Wait, when you find out, you find out, though, huh? Yeah, no, I work for the man my whole life, and I just thought, what do you, you know, taxes come once a year. Turns out they make you pay tax. Like, if you think taxes, I don't really make you. Taxes on an individual person sucks. I don't. You don't?
Starting point is 01:40:44 You think it's great? Yes. Well, just the process. I'm all for paying taxes. and having a society that can help run with those taxes. Certainly, it's the end of the year. They're like, all right, pay your taxes. So then you pay a certain amount.
Starting point is 01:41:01 And they go, oh, that was wrong, penalty. Wait, if you knew the number, just tell me and I'll pay that. Yeah. Like, what if you went to dinner and you ordered a meal and then you paid and then you might get arrested after if you didn't pay the right amount? No, and then they're like. That is a good point. They're asking you to your taxes.
Starting point is 01:41:21 but then they're doing them for you and telling you whether we did it wrong. It's double the work. It's bullshit. Right. No, I agree with that. Is it a billion dollar industry that we would eradicate if we just said, you know what?
Starting point is 01:41:33 Everyone's just taxed this percent, and that's just it. That is absolutely it. Now, I'm not so on board with that, but... He's a libertarian. Well, I'm just saying if the government just said, well, here's your bill. How about they send you the bill at the end? You know what they do for property taxes? didn't you just get one in the mail?
Starting point is 01:41:52 I just got one in the mail that says this is your bill for the property taxes. Now you can dispute it and play games with that and all that. But at least they've just given you a bill and you can just pay it. And then now you're done. They don't say, hey, why don't you figure out, what do you think the house went up in value?
Starting point is 01:42:07 Right. Why don't you work on it? And then we will... A little game show. You think people would be pissed when they saw the 10%, 15%, 20% tip on the bill from the government? Or maybe custom. And our guy is like, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:20 well, we have to estimate, we're trying to estimate what your quarterly taxes will be in March. So here, pay this now. And we're like, what are you, what? It's all so confusing. It really is. It's a guessing game. And then if you turn in little special pieces of paper, they're like, you've lowered the amount. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:41 You have some receipts here. How much? Well, actually, it'll be just a percentage of this percentage. And then, you know what? but if you work from home, you could take the percentage of the space that you work in, take your heat bill, and then take the percentage that you, like, what? What are we doing? What's up, Danny?
Starting point is 01:43:02 Hey, Dan. So do, dude. Danny knows about taxes. He's been a small business owner. Small business owner for years. We should have asked him some stuff. You're right. The quarterly, quarterly tax was illuminating. I discovered that about 15 years ago.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Like two quarters later. You're like, oh, wait, I was supposed to... I thought we were profitable. You don't have to pay them. Maybe not. Okay. No, you don't. Well, here's Jake.
Starting point is 01:43:31 We're not paying taxes. Yeah. And here's me for the flat tax. That's a libertarian thing. I don't even know what that means. Libertarian. Well, you're it, so... Yeah, I mean, you kind of have been early on.
Starting point is 01:43:46 The whole Iran thing. Pay their fair share. Should we, can we pay fair shares? Well, I believe the term fair is up for debate. God damn it. Are you trying to talk to me, Danny, the bankers? The 1%? They are stealing from you.
Starting point is 01:44:09 It's pretty good. Put that on the list. The list. Yeah. Jake's impressions, Bernie Sanders. right above Obama Where do you guys stand on Back-in parking?
Starting point is 01:44:24 Oh my God, don't start. You're anti? If you're a back-in parker, I don't know that I have strong enough verbiage to say about how little I think of... Agreed. Wow. It's funny when people criticize things they stink at. No, I agree.
Starting point is 01:44:47 I can do it easy. It's funny because the type of people, if we wanted to continue this thread, the type of people, and I'm not saying Dan does this who are like, oh, a big libertarian, that type of guy backs in. Because they think, like, I don't give, I don't give a shit about anybody else, anything else. It's just about what's happening right here with me right now and what's going to make it easiest for me. It's situational. That's all it is. Did you think you're opening this box? No, no, I was trying to lead to something else.
Starting point is 01:45:14 I didn't realize that I was going to get a tab. It's happened to me two or three times in the last week. And then I get the, oh, it's not Dan, but everyone else. I'll make a show of it, too. The biggest asshole I've ever met, but Dan's fine. There's 5,000 parking spots in this parking lot. But let's all stop. There's an exhibit about to be put on.
Starting point is 01:45:30 This is like if he met one Somali and he'd be like, okay, they're all right. A Navy seal has arrived to show us how to park his aircraft carrier of an F-150. Oh, oh. I will tell you this. I do it in far reaches of a parking lot where I don't want to hold up traffic. No, I know you don't. in general. There's one time and one time only that it is okay to back in park.
Starting point is 01:45:52 And that's if you're at a concert or something where everybody's going to be living at the same time. And you are going to be stuck. There's only one. This is it. Other than that, you just pull in and you just figure it out. Well, my wife is pregnant, and I just want to be able to get out and get to the hospital. I don't care. The baby's not going to die over 10 seconds.
Starting point is 01:46:17 You guys are so screwed if something goes down and you all got to get out of there. I think I'll figure it out. The car goes backwards. I was really only asking that to lead into what do you guys think of eating dinner at five o'clock? Love it. How does that apply? That sounds awesome. Okay, you guys are all on board just because it's something that I get accused of...
Starting point is 01:46:40 I like, you get older, you want to eat at five o'clock. but I found a news story from Fox 5 Atlanta. And I wanted to play it for it. Fair and balanced. Think 5.30 dinner time is for retirees. We'll think again, restaurants across the USA, the 5 to 5.30 p.m. slot has exploded in popularity, and it's not just seniors filling tables.
Starting point is 01:47:07 53% of Gen Z and 51% of millennials now prefer early bird dinners, often booking their straight after work or squeezing in social, plans before bedtime some restaurant tours call it the new 8 p.m. weekend crowds are dropping early seating is rising and 5.30 is the hottest table in town so what do you think is 530 the new 8 p.m. when it comes to dinner reservations let us know and download fox local for live streaming news and more. Drop a comment let us know yeah yeah we'll come back to this in the next hour I mean this is big restaurant just trying to get some new butts in the seats at a slow time Boy, I like that take
Starting point is 01:47:44 Interesting, interesting He's following the money a little bit Because I just When we had kids We started going to dinner real early And then even when the kids got older I'm like, this is great Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:57 There's no one here I can eat earlier You might even Might even catch a little Happy Hour special During that 450 window Do my dad My dad is living in that
Starting point is 01:48:11 4 o'clock hour four o'clock because they still got specials you can still get like him and my my stepmom will just go to bars and go to hit their happy hour it's like half price appetizers they love it okay I don't do it for monetary I just do it for chill lifestyle works out this would fit it they say kids are just like lamer now in general right they don't drink they don't have sex bone they don't do drugs they eat dinner at five like what's the point of being alive well I guess that's why they're also committing suicide at a higher level It seems to be happening. They're like, we're lame. I mean, it's like they're all going to end up in rehab when they're 40. I know. What sort of disastrous turn to this take? Pussy.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Or sweating football game outcomes for Picks. Ah, look at Jake. Something more constructive. Working us back to the product, which is PICS. We're trying to avoid it. But we cannot because the dumb zone still trails Cirque du Soroy. the cheating team the bad team they wear black we wear white the overall record it's two games
Starting point is 01:49:20 we're two games behind you guys we were all what was the Monday night game we were really into the one that Jalen Hertz chewed turds on as they go to overtime I'm like should have been it I know should have been five up with a touchdown AJ Brown had that drop Because it was a three, was it three and a half?
Starting point is 01:49:42 Philly by three and a half? No, it was three. Okay, so yeah, they're down three in overtime. Yeah, so even if they went on a field goal, it's a push. But he has to throw his fourth pick. You should see Danny's play-by-play text to me. It's so fun. Like I'm watching.
Starting point is 01:50:02 God damn. Right. You know, like no matter what happens, he's still live and pissed. No, have a bad connection. I don't think that's okay you're back you do this doesn't affect anyone harder than it affects me I'm afraid I'm stressed over this I don't know man stressed over this is all I'm terrified in my whole life like we talk about the show sort of all the time right you know it's a living breathing document but last week I'm regular call in the morning to Dan he's like do you want to call Blake I'm like why
Starting point is 01:50:33 the whole show is pretty much planned we got viewer mail we got pigs Brandon's today I don't know just talk show and we call Blake and he's like I just thought we'd kind of kick around our triple plays I'm like dude what are you doing we're fucked just flip a coin there's no winner there's no planning our way into this like it's it is what
Starting point is 01:50:53 it is we talked it out for half an hour and had no answer and then we all missed our triples I hit mine I kind of hit mine oh no it was just me last week Blake's a rising star man out of the dumps
Starting point is 01:51:09 Yes, you with the hand up. When is the last week of this? That's what we've been talking about off the year. Because we used to do it like until one week after we came back in the New Year's. And we might do that again. But we had also taken buy weeks back when we did it on the radio. And we haven't taken a buy week. So there is one scenario that if we make it two more weeks plus nine games,
Starting point is 01:51:35 we'll have 169 games pick. Oh, that's good. That might be the way we go, but we're just trying to get the most number of, you know, I guess by the end of the season, because you can't really do anything into the playoffs, right? Because you go through week 17, right? Can we have a week with Wild Card and Natty or college playoffs? We're just trying to have more picks. We like content and do it longer.
Starting point is 01:52:01 We do too. Yeah. So we'll have this settled by next week's picks. How about that? I don't believe you, but I like your record. You guys noticed that the season start to extend a little bit as we started to lose the league. Well, we were never ending it early before. Before it's like 150s a clean number.
Starting point is 01:52:22 We were never ending it before. That's silly. Anyway, the individual standings. The individual standings, as far as wins this year, we have Jake was 73. Mike Soroy with an 8-2 week is on your heels now he has 72 wins How do you feel about this?
Starting point is 01:52:48 How do you feel about this, J. Kemp? I don't feel, I mean, whatever. Like, he's, I always knew that we were the two top dogs. Like, it's known, it's like, it's like asking me, like, asking Luca after the game, like, where you surprised Shea was their best? No, don't ask me about Stephen Adams. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:04 It's a two of us, we have. Hagler and Hearn. Yes. Okay, you're Luca? Well, I mean, whatever. I'm Luca. The point is, I know who I've got to take on here. Well, these guys are the two top dogs because one game separates them.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Then we go nine games down and we get to Blake. 64 wins. Danny's Luca? Danny 63. Cash 62. I want to tell that story. And then can I be AD? Who am I in this scenario?
Starting point is 01:53:37 Well, we're trying to trade you, so yes. Because I am four games below cash at 58 now. A little bounce back week, though. A little bounce back week. Heck yeah. Which really was helped. I mean, the whole thing was fading cash's triple play. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Which is in my playbook, which is a possibility for today's picks as well. Cash triple played a team that's in Denton. that doesn't have a head coach everybody makes mistakes they had scored like 80 a game right throughout the year yeah they scored a lot except when they needed to what are you going to tell this goes you're going to go into toulain hey mike do you remember that one time when we were at the freak and we were trying to like determine some roles on what our show was and like you kind of brought it in and out of breaks and handled a lot of the you know bulk of the content and all that and like yeah i mean i'm i'm probably like luka and
Starting point is 01:54:41 mike reiner the guy that brought the proverbial bag every day to that show goes i'm luka oh oh okay yeah you're you're luca we're like all right here's the ball yeah like one dribble off his foot oh wow geez that's kind of surprising that somebody said that i uh i certainly was not trying to say that I am Luca in that joking scenario there. That's what you said. I feel like the tape will show that you said I'm Luca. Yeah. The good news is mine is
Starting point is 01:55:15 on tape, not in a meeting. That is that's different, but to each their own. All right, so we have to pick the cowboy game. Let's take a look at that spread. Nowhere for Richie Soroy to hide this weekend, is there? These are bright
Starting point is 01:55:31 lights, buddy. There's no coastal Carolina Baptist, Methodist, Southern It's off the board, Chief. I'm on up to the Beast Feast. Yeah, but I got a sneaky little card up my sleeve. Oh, my God. Serviceman. Yep.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Just midshipman. Mighty midshipman. Okay, Cowboys are favored by six. At home, Sunday night football in a game that we will be doing a stream. So we invite you to tune into our. YouTube channel. Am I first or I have to wait till next week to go first? And join us.
Starting point is 01:56:12 And we will go in order of dominance so far. We will not start with Shay. We will start with our Luca. That's right. Self-proclaimed Luca. Jake, you pick first. Cowboy game and the triple play. I'm going to bite down hard and take that Cowboys minus six.
Starting point is 01:56:34 It seems like a lot of points. The Vikings are up and down. We were talking about this before. It feels like this is one at home where Dak can light you up for 40 plus. But Brian Flores, who is black. He's no pushover. I will take the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I will not triple play it. I'd love to go back to the Chiefs. I feel like the Chiefs are not going down without a fight. That's what, four and a half, Blake? What do we get that at? Chiefs minus four and a half. It's tasty, Danny It's not
Starting point is 01:57:07 They're hot garbage, man But I'm not doing that I'm going to keep going I'm going to go with Oh wait All right Pussies listen up The big dog is hungry
Starting point is 01:57:19 Whip it out and crank some hog with us It's time for Jake's triple play That's right I'm taking the Seahawks to cover 13 and a half It's a lot of points and Philip Rivers. A lot of points. They're playing a 44-year-old
Starting point is 01:57:34 that quarterback in an NFL game that hasn't played in five years. I will triple play the nasty Seahawks defense laying 13 and a half. Triple, triple. You're both sounders. Yeah, you get something after, for sure.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Wow. We go to Mike Soroy, Shea, Soroy. Thank you. Yeah, Shea Gilgis, Sidwa. I hope my connection's good. sorry. I have some fun facts for you guys, but I'm going to just skip them and do. I thought he did that on purpose.
Starting point is 01:58:07 How can he make it happen on purpose? That's too good. Did it freeze? Perfect. You're back. I'm sorry. Minnesota Vikings plus six I'm taking against the Dallas Cowboys. I think these teams are about very, not similar in how they play, but they're in the same spot. It's an elimination game, and I'm like, screw it. Give me the six points in that scenario.
Starting point is 01:58:28 So yeah, Minnesota plus six. And then I'm going wild card slash triple play. Houston Texans, minus nine and a half points. I think their defense is effing incredible right now. I think they're at home and they're playing a very bad team that I don't think gives a shit anymore. Houston minus nine and a half. Trip, trip, trip, triple play.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Triple, triple play. Frank that hog. Frank a little hog. I think Arizona might be a tasty fade on that. Don't know. Um, but let's just wait to see where I get, uh, we go to Blake now. Blake. I like the Cowboys minus six.
Starting point is 01:59:07 I think they're really good at home. I think J.J. McCarthy is ass. And, uh, I think they win going away. TCU bias. TCU bias. Uh, it wasn't really good in college either. He wasn't. Uh, not a good pro.
Starting point is 01:59:19 So I like the Cowboys minus six. They're going to score a lot of points against the, uh, yeah, aforementioned black Brian Flores. It's important note. Um, the best record in the NFL right now is a little bit of, 11 and 2, and there are two teams that have the best record. Denver and New England. They're both getting points at home. I like both of them, but I think I like Denver plus two and a half against the Packers more at mile high. Let's go Denver plus two and a half for my triple
Starting point is 01:59:46 play. Is that anecdotal? Because you were there? You actually witnessed the Denver defense? Although I don't think it's Mexican Heritage Week. That's a big factor. You have to remember that. a pretty neat place to play. There's a parachute guy still going to be there? I don't know. Getting points. But I think Jordan Love and Toyotathon or Decemberthon, whatever, I think that's over. That was a bit.
Starting point is 02:00:10 He sucks. All right. Blake, listen to this. This is fascinating. Hopefully it works. Go ahead. Since 1980, only three teams have been on a 10-game win streak at home and getting points. Only three times ever.
Starting point is 02:00:23 It's in 45 years. And we have two this weekend on 10-game win streaks at home getting points in New England and in Denver. Quite fascinating. What happened to those three? Two of them didn't have their starting quarterback playing, like they were already locked into whatever they were, so they were kind of skewed.
Starting point is 02:00:42 The third is the AFC championship game, Patriots at Steelers. Steelers were getting two and a half, and the Patriots did win and cover 41-27. Interesting. Yeah. My models are thorough. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 02:00:56 All their models. Danny Bayless. Cowboys win they don't cover I'm with Mikey on this I'll take the Vikings the points on that and after watching the most recent mid-season
Starting point is 02:01:13 or in-season hard knocks and seeing Nick Siriani's Division 7 college football highlights I'm pumped I'm going back to the well to make a statement at home against Las Vegas
Starting point is 02:01:29 Jalen Hertz proves to the world that that was an anomaly and they smoke Las Vegas by a ton 11 and a half yes wow
Starting point is 02:01:43 didn't you pick one that was like 13 yeah I did I did okay it's just I love it like with a team that can score though a lot of big spreads
Starting point is 02:01:52 desperate a lot of big spreads we go to cash sororoy Hello. Hi. Well, I've got a lot of inside information for you guys. Just some really good information.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Yeah, go and skip that and give us the picks. Like 3 o'clock. Vikings at Cowboys. Six is a lot of points. The Vikings are up and down. Dak can light you up for 40 at home. Also, Brian Flores is black. So I'll take the Cowboys minus six points.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Okay. I'm going to be in the building for the Army-Navy game. And I'm going to be in the building. And I'm going to be in the building for the Raiders at Eagles, Danny. So I'm having a big sports weekend, and I love your picks. I'm not discussing what my picks are in those games right now because I am tripling the Buffalo Bills and Mikey's little ten. game stat thing
Starting point is 02:03:00 is where I'm headed and the bills are doing what the chief should be doing they're getting stronger as the season goes on the bills are my triple play it's got to be the bills year right
Starting point is 02:03:12 oh rabble off a bye dude rabble off a bye as long as they're weak no receivers they're banged up a little bit I just mean no Mahomes and no burrow
Starting point is 02:03:24 I think they've been way better come on Dan no Rable off a bye. Vrable off a bye is awful tasty. Come right at me. And I would love to see you so sad. That's team in the league getting points.
Starting point is 02:03:38 And Cash is four games ahead of me. Yeah, that's interesting. I'm looking over here. We got Joe Burrow is a home dog. I'm here, Huckleberry. We like the Bears. They're at home. But by seven and a half against Cleveland.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Shador is feeling himself like he's like. like thinks he's great now, even though they just lost. To the Titans? To the Titans at home. But Shador Sanders is still kind of strutting around. Like, I'm here now. If he had been in on the two-point play, they would have won in overtime. I've made it.
Starting point is 02:04:14 But I'm not going to do that. What I'm thinking about here is that. Oh, no. Once he got on. Sometimes I like to get these things done early. And I see Drake London is out. I see Kirk Cousins is still
Starting point is 02:04:30 Kirk Cousins He's hurt, man He can't quit the NFC Is he wearing camouflage under that? I'm wearing this shirt It's my Baker Mayfield shirt And they play tonight Their backs are against the wall
Starting point is 02:04:46 And I'm not going to go with that Baker Mayfield He's edging us Baker Mayfield What I am going to do though, is I like the juice.
Starting point is 02:05:05 I want people to tune in Sunday night. I like the Cowboys at home. Antioop. I would like to triple play the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, yes. We got them, Danny. It's over. We got them.
Starting point is 02:05:26 And I wonder if... You know, now that you say that, we are all going to be doing the stream. I am a big Cowboys fan. And what's six? Might as well make it 16. Let me triple up those Cowboys as well. Actually, I'm going to be in the building.
Starting point is 02:05:43 So I would like to triple play the Cowboys well. What? Holy shit. Can this be happening? The Dumb Zone is going to hang their nuts. It's a triple, triple play. You bet you're... They're talking about your picture ahead of time.
Starting point is 02:06:05 What do you mean? They did make that phone call to discuss triple flip. Here they are. Here's the season. Nine. They have one cowboy game. Yeah. So eight, but they have two.
Starting point is 02:06:19 So this is an 11 game game. Damn. Yeah. So we'll talk to you at half time, Sunday night during the stream. Can we, yes, no matter what the score, do you guys agree, join us at halftime? Just for a check-in, let's see how Soroy's are feeling. At least one of you. I'm in, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:37 I have no idea where I'll be, but maybe. Oh, yeah, you're going to be at a game or something. Yeah, yeah. Skydiving. You're going to be in the building. He's in space. He's going to be playing quarterback for the Raiders. He's going to be in that building.
Starting point is 02:06:51 An 11-game game. Have we ever had anything like this? No. In the history of Picks with Sorroids. This is the season. Yeah, we've only done. What if we all changed and just tripled the Vikings? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:06 You have the floor. What if you guys, you know, didn't have vaginas, but I don't know. What if we did it? Should we try it, guys? Pussy, pussy. What if we just switched all our triples to the Cowboys too? That's a good point. Love that
Starting point is 02:07:26 Let's do that That'd be gay Let's completely do that All right, boys Holy shit There they go Cirque du Soroy Tune in tonight
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Starting point is 02:09:45 who are big time local sports fans which means you've seen the Arlington Camera commercial a thousand times. And you've of course seen Bob Lavelle's Bless Your Heart series of commercials many times. Do you know the Bless Your Heart guide, Dan? No. So I'll play the old one first. It's like a home marketing service. It's like a mortgaging thing.
Starting point is 02:10:11 He's going to get you out of renting. And he would run spots during Rangers and Mavs and Stars. games like nonstop this is the um the old he did a million of but here's an example of an old one with the tag bob lavelle here for home marketing services my wife born and bred right here in Dallas taught me a lot about Texas she's always saying bless your heart when bad things happened to people took me about 12 years to figure it out smash my thumb hammering a nail one day and there she was bless your heart that's when I realized what it really meant is you dumb brings me to my point still renting making the landlord richer but would rather own your own home
Starting point is 02:10:51 and still haven't called HMS well bless your heart so he would do that in every commercial I love it he would tagline with bless your hair yeah yeah wild hair yeah yeah so it was wild that that video we just saw is probably 20 years old soothing voice but as you can see as I'm gonna play in this second video here the home marketing services it must have been going very well He was making a lot of cash. The business was taking off. And in this more recent one here, this is probably five to seven years ago. He's kind of morphing into Guy Fieri, as you can see in the...
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Starting point is 02:12:00 audio only in that clip he's got kind of uh his hair is uh blondeish blown out he's got a leathery jacket on but he's like 80 yeah but he's 80 he looks younger though because he's now he's in flavor town he's making money and he's got a jingle well what he's got on his hands right now is a pretty serious um restitution payment to make of about 5.7 million dollars in a sexual assault case he repeatedly forced a former employee to perform sex sex and then retaliated against her when she refused uh it says here that uh he had um like cozy words for when he wanted this or that, including oral. What was the code word?
Starting point is 02:12:49 It says here that he would text her, I want you to bless my heart. That was the code? I made that up. I like that. I'd like to know the code, though. Yeah. It's not in here. It just says use code words to let the woman know he wanted oral sex, according to the judge's finding.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Like, we used to use code for weed or something, you know? Oh, yeah. We'd call it certain things. Yeah. I've never thought of code for sex. No, I guess you have to. if you're doing secret sex. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 02:13:17 And that's what this was. This says he would say my zipper is tight. Really? Or I need help with my zipper. That wasn't in this article. That's good. Well, is it? I don't know that it's much of a code.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Yeah, that's kind of like a... No, no, when I said that, I just... Bob Ross. Yeah, I just wanted her to come help me with my zipper. Yeah. But so this woman worked for him and had for a few years before he started Looks like your mouth is empty It's code
Starting point is 02:13:47 Oh It's code What do you mean That that's not code Are you getting enough sodium? Are you getting enough protein? Protein sodium I got something that has both
Starting point is 02:13:56 I can't handle the I know that we talked about Like the proteinification And there's been a bunch of Editorials and comedy sets on it I can't not laugh Dude Everywhere you go
Starting point is 02:14:08 It's like you want a little protein on top All I can think of is you For years, mentioning a common item, like a protein shake, I'd bring one into the office or whatever. And he's like, I'll give you a protein shake. Hell yeah, bro. So now at Starbucks, when they're like, you want protein foam, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll give you some protein foam. I feel like that would be a good code. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Nowadays, because you think of protein with something different. Now may be the time. That's kind of a code, yeah. So this woman had been working there, at which point he told her, you're going to start blessing my heart, or you're not. going to have a job. And she was a single mom who was paying for her, her, uh, she was supporting her teenage daughter and her teenage daughter was getting health insurance through that job. And he would say things to her like, hey, you know, you could do this or your daughter could not have health insurance, which is, uh, which is the one. That's not much of a code either.
Starting point is 02:15:03 No, no. He's going right for it. And, um, he would do things. And she chose, uh, the daughter not having health insurance? She kept doing it actually. Um, And the daughter kept having health insurance. The woman drew the line when that daughter, who's now an adult-age daughter, was also sexually harassed by Bob Lovell. She's like, all right. We're not making this a generational thing. We're cutting this off at the past.
Starting point is 02:15:30 I'm going to the courts. I'm getting a lawyer. And she did. Raj Dunn, by the way. He's one of the old. There's like four lawyers in Texas. Busby being one of them. um but other things like uh he had the good leads which were known as the jr leads in the office
Starting point is 02:15:51 and she would get those leads when she led the evil out of his body and then she would not get those leads when she didn't help with his zipper so that's a horny old guy dude yeah he fired her right when she filed a complaint oh yeah yeah there's a couple other cases pinning against the guy also but 5.7 and horny 5.7 I mean he's paying 5.7 million dollars for that's his judgment here he owes her 5.7 million dollars for depression anxiety she says she's you know this I don't shouldn't laugh women lose their hands hair when they get real stressed, which is not at all like a creepy animalistic thing that, I don't know, predator of prey.
Starting point is 02:16:47 Would you take that, how many years was this? You lost yours and nobody was trying to fuck you. Yeah, yeah. How much, not the hair thing, I'm just saying. Would you take 5.7 million for 10 years of having to relieve an old man? I guess probably not. no no but it's tough to try to make an analogous situation but we can because we have the freedom to do so here boss lady hires a 23 year old dan macdell and you've got uh you know at this time
Starting point is 02:17:25 like four year old child you're single and she's like gross but she's in charge and she's kind trying to get herself all dolled up and hot because she's got a lot of money now and she's like you can keep this job and get the good leads if you eat me out in my office once a week wow you're not married it's very abusive you don't like doing it there's nothing sexual about it for you yeah because obviously if i say blowing to you you're going to be like where do i sign up yeah that's so i'm trying to make it something i'm trying to make it something you to think about. Yeah, no, it's probably a bad bit.
Starting point is 02:18:09 I think it's probably terrible, and I think there's probably a lot of women who, if they, they might not go to the level of, like, sexual act, but they know that they have to act a certain way if they want to keep getting quote leads, even, much less, you know, preferential treatment. So this story is particularly bothersome to you, though, because you love this guy's commercials. I didn't, I don't think I really said, hey, take it easy on the guy. The commercials are great. I just knew that I had an audience.
Starting point is 02:18:36 of local sports fans here today that absolutely nobody is like, you've got to be kidding me, Bob Lavelle. Okay, not the Bob Lavelle, I know. The commercials that used to run on Rangers games, I feel like is a bonds list. Yes. Bart Rager, this guy, like, I bet we could find a bunch of people
Starting point is 02:18:54 that were up to do good. Dude, Dr. Brown. Daddy's baby girl. What happened? Dr. Brown, the hand doctor? What did he do? Dude, if we need to redo that entire story one day, we will because the doctor brown
Starting point is 02:19:07 he was the it was a he had like revolutionized hand surgery remember yeah oh yeah you'd see the graphic you're like shit he fixed that hand and then he would have his family around him hated him and he would then have at the end of the commercial he had
Starting point is 02:19:23 like his seven year old daughter and she'd go daddy's baby girl and he'd be holding her and it was super creepy dude he came out he was like torturing them and like he thought the government was trying to kill him. I think he tried to, like, gas his family, like, in the home or something.
Starting point is 02:19:42 He went nuts, full-on nuts. I do not remember that. Yeah, that's a great story. I think he's dead. Is he dead? Ryan? I haven't heard. Can he check?
Starting point is 02:19:54 Ben Abbott on that list? What do he do? He got into it? I don't know. But, and this is fine, because we're fans and friends of the, the Frankles here at this show, and those guys are going to treat you right. Ben Abbott has a fire
Starting point is 02:20:11 jingle. We could probably play it. I mean, it gets sung it might Don't let an accident wreck your life. Hello, Ben. There's Dorian Finney Smith. Dorian Finney Smith, David Irving, once upon a time. Now it's just a hot.
Starting point is 02:20:27 That hot is his daughter. Non-paid, non-attorney-paid spokesperson. And she's like a hot version of Ben Abbott. and she's in the songs with But Dan, he's also done one where he had like a bunch of hots And I feel like that portends Possibly creepiness in the office
Starting point is 02:20:45 If you're just stocking your local Mavs commercial with Hots Yeah, long car Didn't he He died in the parking lot of his law office Yeah Oh After his
Starting point is 02:21:01 Uh, daughter Son Are you sure? sounds like Clayton knows did what he had a 16 year old daughter who died of a cocaine overdose and then
Starting point is 02:21:14 he put the strong arm on himself a few days after that he killed himself oh okay like was it his coke I don't know you probably that's a good question
Starting point is 02:21:29 and that's why the Rangers can't afford Pete Alonzo now dude no lie And Rylan used to talk about this all the time. It's just like perceptive. Like he'd be like, there's just no way that the salary cap, you can't pay Bradley Beale $50 million when your business is built on Arlington camera spots. Like there's no way these RSNs are making enough money for this to make any sense.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Look at the ad inventory. It's all the same. And none of them are paying enough. There's just no way. Pete Alonzo in two years, that contract's going to be horrible. Yeah. And especially if Nemo starts walking again, yeah he hasn't done that in a few years but yeah
Starting point is 02:22:08 i just wanted you know we're baseball guys two louisville is d parents say their son farmers is uh recovering after he was uh subject to a traumatic hazing incident carried out by other members of the football team it is uh it was on video is hazing back that's a good question
Starting point is 02:22:32 It needs It may have never left But it may be back now And that it ramps up again And then we get We get more people getting caught It happened after a football team dinner Those were the best
Starting point is 02:22:47 Go to somebody's house And usually it was somebody Who's parents had like a backyard situation You get the fire back in there Smokes cigars You'd get 50 or 60 We did it at my house a couple times Because my mom was a cook
Starting point is 02:23:06 She was down to do it But it was the best In this case Oh my God Swag weed That's what That's what got hazing going Right
Starting point is 02:23:20 Just these kids with their extra high tea Time They're libido Yeah bored Trying to be funny And they're all horny Yep And a little bit
Starting point is 02:23:30 Is there a little closet homosexuality and some of the early hazing stuff? Just, like, why is everybody got to be naked? Why do we have to haze you in your wiener? I don't know that it's closet homosexuality. As much as it is, you're just figuring out sexuality and all of it's funny. Yeah. And, you know, it's not like you're, like, rocked up by it. You're just like, oh, this is funny. Like, I told you guys, like, hanging my ID for my junk in the locker
Starting point is 02:23:56 room. I didn't do that out of any sort of sexual kick. No, but whoever said that you had to do it Or did you not? This is what I'm saying I did to be funny Oh, you know. Like I'm like, hey, where's my ID? I can't go to school without it. He's not coerced.
Starting point is 02:24:10 Yeah. In this case, after the dinner, the junior was stripped of his clothes by a group of seniors And shot repeatedly with a pellet going. Yeah. But now they have team bonding. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:29 Well, they would have. Yeah, this is Turpent Time. What does that mean? Brandon said that's when everyone daps each other up, Turpent Time. Yeah, in the meeting, they all tell each other they love each other and get closer. This is how they do it. Yeah, I can tell you what's worse than getting hazed is having your parents snitch to the media and the police about you getting hazed. That's the worst.
Starting point is 02:24:55 That's got to be a worse outcome if you had to pick. I would think. What else do we want to do today? The Powerball hit a billion last night, Dan. I don't know if you're back in that day or not. No. Oh, okay. Now I'll be back.
Starting point is 02:25:10 Back in a billion. I need at least a billion. I like T.C.'s theory on that. It was at 930 last night. 930 million. T.C.'s lottery theory seems to be like if you win 12 million, everyone around you will treat you like you won a billion. You know, they're going to want.
Starting point is 02:25:29 houses paid off and your friends and then no one's going to be really happy with you. But if you win a billion, you can actually pay your friends' houses off and all that kind of stuff. You can do what you want to do. It makes sense? That seems like why I play it.
Starting point is 02:25:44 What's the, but the odds, the change in the odds. Way better. Way better. Because more people are playing. There are parts of this story, like in the Louisville thing, they say that, like, the administration knew about it and swept it under the rug you know those kids
Starting point is 02:26:03 they were still like roaming the halls I thought you moved to the next story oh did I was about Powerball oh my bad I just had forgotten that part of the I don't really want to talk Powerball I just have it up here it's just you know all right you brought it up I started talking about it and you're yelling at me because I
Starting point is 02:26:19 you're like I don't know no yelling no yelling such yelling especially for guys who are all teammates together in this Cowboys Win Quest Yeah. Oh, are you already regretting it? Just the last time you and I tripled the Cowboys,
Starting point is 02:26:34 it didn't go well with the Cardinals. Oh, did we both do with that game? Mm-hmm. Yeah, but now we got Mr. Cowboy on the side. That's true. I haven't, I have done pretty well in Cowboy games, I think. And look, it's going to, they're going to, this is a game they win. Yes.
Starting point is 02:26:52 In fact, they'll probably get exactly what they need to get in and then lose the last game. Jake's dominant on picking Cowboy. games this year. Seven and six. All right. All right. But I am 2 and 11. And Brandon
Starting point is 02:27:08 told you you were banned. You can't tell me what to do. Yeah, that's tough. The city of Dallas is now using AI cameras in the sanitation world. What does that mean? It means that they're
Starting point is 02:27:26 trash. are outfitted with AI cameras. What does it mean? I'm not exactly sure. But what it means is that eventually there's not going to be trash men. Right? They've already eradicated the...
Starting point is 02:27:42 What do you call it? The recycling man. What's categorized these for me because I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Don't you have recycling pickup and trash pickup? Yeah. Okay, so the recycling pickup is all automated. There's no...
Starting point is 02:27:57 There's just a driver. okay like just the big arm thing goes and picks and if you don't set your recycling like out into the road enough then you're just not going to get your recycling so trash that would be hard to do because you got your leaf bags
Starting point is 02:28:10 you got your throwing away this old desk I got or something you know dude yeah but they won't take that stuff where I live they have a separate day for that and they're real upity about bulk trash pickup well the initial purpose
Starting point is 02:28:24 of those guys are fine then cameras is uh is to snitch on people for what leaving shit out and you know if you got a old beater in your out of the edge of your yard or you've got a couch that's been out there forever and now they can just roll these cameras around enforcing code I was reading about this thing the other day that I ultimately I guess ended up being not that different from what we have here but do you know China has like social credit scores you're familiar with this.
Starting point is 02:28:58 Aren't you telling us about that on the air once? I might have been where, you know, you, if you're like a good, if you're a good citizen, then you can get, like, better hotels or better flight rates and... Like, if you hold the door open for people and say thank you? I think it's mostly just if you, like, pay your bills on time and if you are good in business, like you don't stiff people on contracts. Ultimately, it doesn't sound that different from just having a credit score here. but it does apply
Starting point is 02:29:27 Which is also baffling as baffling as taxes What is it? Yeah like I mean it generally makes sense Sometimes if you make all your payments on time You still don't have the highest credit Like what do you mean?
Starting point is 02:29:37 Yeah Like And also like if you don't have credit cards You're not going to have much of a credit score So that also limits some people But in China it'll They'll say like you can't use the high speed train Huh
Starting point is 02:29:52 Like if you've been stiffing people in your money game But you will see these AI-powered cameras on the streets in Dallas snitching on people That's too bad For code violation I don't like cameras busting me I am glad the red light cameras no longer That was huge
Starting point is 02:30:16 Because I'll blow through that Yeah If needed Not if there's traffic But if there's no one there And it's illogical to sit at a red light I'm not going to sit there saw a story um about a stabbing in time square like i just went to new york city and uh it was
Starting point is 02:30:32 like oh this seems pretty pretty safe pretty normal then nobody freaking out on the subway and uh two tourists were stabbed in time square two days ago so i guess the day after we left and uh one lady was slapped the guy was stabbed but he survived because of his thick winter jacket. Oh, cool. So you're a 47-year-old man knifed in the torso, but it was very cold up there and getting colder. So just waiting on a bus at 42nd and 8th in Manhattan.
Starting point is 02:31:08 Broad daylight, 3.30 in the afternoon, midtown Manhattan. You just get, just get knifed. How about the word broad if we say, is that a tested daylight? Broad. What else do you say? is broad broad side of a barn is that the same thing it just means like obvious
Starting point is 02:31:29 um no i took it as big like they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn but broad daylight doesn't mean like hey look it's the wide okay like broadside is a naval term what are we doing
Starting point is 02:31:46 with that what don't we just use left and right when everybody's oh starboard starport Starbucks anyways there's your news StarCraft. The Fox? The Dumb Zone dudes.
Starting point is 02:32:00 That was StarFoc, yeah, yeah. Like and subscribe. That was a good news. That might have been my favorite aerial game growing up. Do a barrel roll. That ruled. What do you mean? I have beer mail birthdays.
Starting point is 02:32:13 What do you mean my aerial game? Like an airplane, like a game, like a fighter pilot. That was a plane game. Yeah. Huh. Like jungle strut. Anyways, who's bringing you this, Dan? Frankl and Frankel, personal injury attorneys.
Starting point is 02:32:31 To the best of our knowledge, not asking their employees to perform sex acts on them. Their zippers are not tight. Correct. Absolutely not. But they do have a reliable phone number, 214, 817, 3333, 33, and over 100 years a combined experience in this space. Viewer male birthdays, we have. Dear Pussy Man. Good.
Starting point is 02:33:05 Happy birthday to Thomas Charles Fleming. Oh, well. Oh, hey. All right. His leader, Lene Kekua. What is that? That would be Mantei Teow's non-existent girlfriend, Lene Kikua.
Starting point is 02:33:20 My leader, as a founding member of the Kim Bronies, it's Clayton Kimbrough. Nice. Wow. Never punt from Stu. Stu Pot. Who says, P.S. I got laid off from Rivian.
Starting point is 02:33:37 No. Are you serious? So let's get a big plug-in for Fairlease.org. And anyone looking to hire a kind of mid-marketing guy can go to stewhill.org for more info on me. Damn. Stu's great. He is. But, I mean, I don't know the details of his dismissal, but he did spend money on Dumb Zone
Starting point is 02:34:00 expenditures and maybe. I don't think we can get blamed for that. Yeah, I feel like other businesses who have spent money on the Dumb Zone. Look right there. Game Day men's health. We got people are getting into accidents just so they can call the Frankles. All three of these dudes have Qualis in their lives. Paulus Roofs, community mechanical, trident, like.
Starting point is 02:34:22 I'm probably not mentioning stuff. Now everybody's going to get mad. The point is... It's on you. We're great, is what we're saying. Dear Dumbzone, today is my brother Stuart Andrew Hills, Joe Biden, birthday. I think this is Stu.
Starting point is 02:34:38 Wow. The same stew. Who emailed in for TC. He's that type of guy on his own birthday. Do you know how I know he's gay? Because his first name is Stuart. This is from his brother, Ryan, leaders are Clayton,
Starting point is 02:34:54 some woodworker in East Texas who knows how to make cornhole fit into a front truck, and Sean Hayes. My leaders are Blake's delusion that 52 and a 40 isn't a thing. Jack Lighter's jaw line. Stu and I kicked off 2025 as your first sit-ins of the year.
Starting point is 02:35:17 Happy we're wrapping up the year with continued de-effery. We're both Aggie. we will continue to subscribe just to spite Jake. We know he wants us out. Yeah. That's from Ryan. Keep your money. Joni says, hi, Dan.
Starting point is 02:35:36 It's another email from an UTS. Ah. My husband, Andrew. His birthday is today. If you can give him a shout out, please. From Joni Uts. So she would be Kevin's sister-in-law? When are we having intern sister-in-law day on the show?
Starting point is 02:35:55 And Alex says yesterday, Business Wednesday, which was brought to us by Sean Kernan and 360 wealth management, December 10th would have been my dad's Alan McGee 53rd birthday. I got into the ticket through him, but no one woke him up in that special way because he can't wake up. Okay His leaders were Eric Nadel, Randy Galloway, and Dirk 53, man
Starting point is 02:36:25 I also empathize empathize with Blake's gas station ladies because my dad died on Christmas Yeah, it's not a great time for everybody He used to work at the Eagle On Dallas at some point Fuck Clear Channel Why would he say that?
Starting point is 02:36:46 Is that who owns the Eagle? They probably screw up rude his dad, didn't know? Or the eagle is the freak. Yeah, Eagles. Eyeheart is Clear Channel, right? Is it? Uh-huh. Did it change the name?
Starting point is 02:37:00 I don't, yeah, check your phone. No one knows. I'm not sure. Oh, you know, that's kind of the origin, that's, you know, most people I feel like don't love the company their parents worked for, you know? I certainly, you know, my dad bitching about it for 30 years, unpaid slaves.
Starting point is 02:37:18 yet he still continues to support and still draws a check. Unions, or I mean management? Yeah. Funny hell. Community Mechanical presents. I was to you today in history.
Starting point is 02:37:28 On this day. In my house. In history. That's community mechanical, Dan. What? Into my house. What do you have one drop? Well, we mentioned it earlier that I said I've got to get that.
Starting point is 02:37:44 Oh, okay. It just stuck out to me. It was a very drop. but we'll drop. Oh, did Beth just send it? Earlier. Oh, all right. It's been to my house.
Starting point is 02:37:54 Well, today is Thursday, December 11th on this day in 1844. The first experimental use of anesthetic in dentistry took place. Nitrous oxide. I would not have thought that. I would have thought, you know, injection or cream, but not gas. Yeah. That's surprising. Well, it says the first use of an inhaled anesthetic.
Starting point is 02:38:18 So maybe that means. I don't know. That's still a lot further back than I would have thought. 1844, yeah, the doctor had one of his assistants do it to him because you can't just experiment on people, I guess, without war. Without war. On this day in 1972 is the last lunar landing where men stepped on to the moon. How come no one ever, when you talk about faking the moon landing,
Starting point is 02:38:48 No one really talks about the subsequent landings. Like, how do you explain all that, then? Do we have ample footage of that? I don't know. Anyway, it was Eugene Kernan. Ooh, maybe like Sean. And Harrison Schmidt. This is a serious question.
Starting point is 02:39:08 Do we have video of all the other moon landings? You would think you would have to. And, like, they don't, you can't even put them on in syndication just because they weren't, like, the main one. Yeah, there should be a moon. channel. You would think. Like we could watch this stuff all day. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:23 And on this day in the year 2000, Alex Rodriguez signs with the Texas Rangers the richest contract in sports history. Championships. And on this day in 2014, the world's first
Starting point is 02:39:39 successful penis transplant. Okay. It's performed in South Africa. Earlier attempts failed. This operation involving microsurgical reconnection of nerves and blood vessels did successfully restore urinary and sexual function. Wow.
Starting point is 02:39:59 The patient fathered a child months later. Huh. Proving the viability of the procedure, or his wife, Chile. She's just like, oh, yeah, it works. I'm sure you have some darker relatives in your lineage. That's probably why. And today is December 11th on this day in Dumb Zone history. This was the day after the Cowboys Eagles game stream in 2023,
Starting point is 02:40:27 where Akash was trolling his wife, his wife's friends in the other room who were massive Eagles fans. And my one note from the show, Dan drank last night in the moment wondered why he doesn't drink more than woke up and remembered why he doesn't drink more. I remember that. Yeah, what do we got? It was a fun night, buddy.
Starting point is 02:40:49 We got 11 games swing. We got Cases Alone Star. Let's toss a couple back. I'm going, dude. We are going hard Sunday night. Thunderbird pizza, the Detroit style from Conne Roe. So let's light it up. I'm not seeing just a whole lot of footage of these other moon landings, by the way.
Starting point is 02:41:05 Nothing? Scant. We see Apollo 17. Scant. And a lot of it's like still images. And I'm like, I know what that is. YouTube's not about to copyright hit you. I feel like you can put the full video up if you have it.
Starting point is 02:41:21 I think you should look into this. This is a very good investigation you're starting. Today's birthdays, we start with Shane Gillis, 38. Greatness. Roy Wood Jr. 47. Jay Bell is 60. Remember the Jay Bell? Interesting, ironic note?
Starting point is 02:41:44 No. Me? I'm looking at baseball man over here. He was traded for Burt Blyleven, and then he hit the first pitch he ever saw in the major leagues. Thrown by Burt Blylevin, he hit a home run. I remember that for next year. Jacoby Bressett is 33?
Starting point is 02:42:02 Damn, that hurts. What hurts? Did you expect greatness from him? No, it hurts to lose to Jacoby Brissette in a year where you think that your team had playoff hope. and dreams. Cardinals spare quarterbacks beat the Cowboys, don't they? Josh Dobbs.
Starting point is 02:42:22 Colt McCoy? Yeah, Colt McCoy. Damn. Remember the pasturnaut? Oh, yeah. What was that guy's name? Josh Dobbs. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:33 Samantha Ponder is 40. His parents got his car in a parking lot. She's probably been on Dancing with the Stars and Oprah. Oh, geez. Allie LaForce is 37. Her too? She's probably She was Miss Teen, Ohio
Starting point is 02:42:50 And she went to Ohio University That's my notes on Allie LaForce TNT Sideline reporter Miss Teen Ohio just sounds creepy I don't know why It does Rita Moreno is 94 She was in Oz
Starting point is 02:43:08 Sister Peter Murray Yeah Donna Mills is 85 What was she in? Is she a It's a Wonderful Life? Damn, I don't know, but she is hot. Donna Mills?
Starting point is 02:43:21 Yeah. For an old. Oh, she was in Knott's Landing. I think my parents used to watch that show. I don't know what that is, but it's a wonderful life. Do you guys watch that or no? No. Is that the one with the lamp?
Starting point is 02:43:34 They'll make you tear up. Oh, that's a Christmas story. No, I don't. No, I don't know. You'll cry tears of joy at the end of It's a Wonderful Life. I did. I hated this movie because my mom was gay for it. James Stewart. Jimmy Stewart sucks, dude. Come on. Oh, wow. My mom went and got his autograph
Starting point is 02:43:52 when he was like a hundred at a bookstore. Like a Freud thing here that you're upset at guys your mom is attracted to. Well, no, I mean, maybe, but like I understood John Wayne. It was like masculine racism, you know, the American prototype, whatever, iconoclass. But Jimmy Stewart always just seemed whiny to me. This fucking bitching about something all the Sorry, over cursing, but I'm not a fan. She did wait in line for, like, several hours to meet him when he was, when he was, like, 95. And there's some listener who was there, older gentlemen who emailed me about it. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:44:29 Yeah, my mom, dude. That's how, and she wouldn't care if I said, that's how hip my mom was. She was like a 27-year-old lady going to meet Jimmy Stewart at a bookstore when he was 95. I think she just wants a piece of greatness before he dies. that and Ronald Reagan Did she sleep with him? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:44:53 I wonder if she would have. Probably would have. Like if that was offered up. She's 27. And he's 95? Yeah, he's 95. But he's Jimmy Stewart. I remember seeing a photo of him being like, geez, he looks old.
Starting point is 02:45:06 Like, wouldn't you hook up with some 95? Like the queen. Donna Mills? You're like, yeah, I'll hook up with her. She's the queen. Got it. For the good leads. Nicky 6 is 67
Starting point is 02:45:21 He didn't die right It was the other one I think Nikki 6 like died But they brought him back That's what I'm saying Okay then it was him He's like DeMar Hamlin Yeah he had like a
Starting point is 02:45:33 I used to watch a lot of behind the music I assume our generation Comeback rocker of the year The following year And the medic won a Grammy year Right yeah Supporting a support God
Starting point is 02:45:44 Guys. Most death is 52. Black Star. Haley Steinfeld is 29. Married to Josh Allen, yeah. Brenda Lee is 81. She's saying rocking around the Christmas tree. That's a good one, right?
Starting point is 02:46:01 I like it. Yeah. And our dumbs-one birthday of the day, Monique. Oh, wow. Ex-wife of? Ludacris. look at Monique's website I don't know if it'll be out there
Starting point is 02:46:16 It's on it. I saw it this morning. Wikipedia. I want to see Blake's reaction when he finds out who Monique was married to first. Chris Samuels? No.
Starting point is 02:46:29 First name listed. Personal life. Monique was married to. It's on the right side. Okay, I wasn't on Wikipedia. Calvin Watkins That's right How?
Starting point is 02:46:46 The Cowboys were a big deal, dude She was married to Cowboys Beat writer Calvin Watkins Wow I know I got to talk to him about this I know You think
Starting point is 02:47:01 Next time Tad Calvin He's like Calvin Watkins Knocked the bottom out of Monique Instead of Dallas morning news every time Born on this day now dead David Brewster invented the kaleidoscope
Starting point is 02:47:17 Yeah what's the deal there It feels like 1,500's like Well that was my next question When do you think he was alive? I just looked it up Oh Yeah somewhere probably 1800-ish
Starting point is 02:47:35 And Amon G. Carter He invented the Fort Worth Star Telegram And he invented that state. He built it with his own bare hands. Dead on this day, still dead. Maurice McDonald's, the co-founder of McDonald's, and Bumbright, the former owner of the Cowboys. And that's what happened on this day in history.
Starting point is 02:48:01 Wait, I thought I had a Mike Leach in there. It must be Mike Leach's day tomorrow. Damn. Why not double up? I thought I had a Mike Leach thing, and yeah, now it turns out no. Anyway, you want to do closing remarks? Sure. We'll also make this, we'll bookend this, brought to us by Game Day Men's Health,
Starting point is 02:48:22 because we're in the Game Day Men's Health studio, and just want to remind you that we do have gameday.dumzone.com that you can go to for 10% off your TRT for life. So what's going on? What are we doing? Who's talking? that's you yeah why are you guys here
Starting point is 02:48:38 it's your remote hey I have no idea what's going on guys oh let me start this over I gotta go oh yeah get the head left Sagittles Baylor University um anyway uh yeah so I guess I'm here because of how do you pronounce it again Brendan Qualis
Starting point is 02:48:53 Qualis oh that's why you're here cool yeah sure we know we did a sit in at the dragon's den dragon den earlier but Blake was not there and I noticed in the future months that a lot of people were doing sit-in as again because they missed Jake during his time away. And I said, well, I showed up to a sit-in and Blake wasn't there. And as you can see, we're part of the beehive over here. And so we had to, you know, get another chance to see
Starting point is 02:49:19 our boy. So you guys each have messages in support of, or mustache is in support of boy. Yes, we do. Yeah, we're sorry that Jake, uh, Jake bailed on us. But, uh, and just like Brandon Aubrey's disappointed in him as well. Fair. I've let everyone down. Yeah, it was a, it was a, it was pleasure to see. I decided that the wife would be the one I didn't let down this time around. Yeah, she's used to it. Yeah. It was a pleasure to see the triple, triple play in person. Wow, what a moment. This historic show moment right there. I was a little concerned. NFT. I got it on video. We can make it happen. I was a little concerned after yesterday that you were cutting the mics off the sit-ins, but good to know that we were able to get a little bit of mic time here. So I appreciate that. Yeah, a lot of people. So Benji came.
Starting point is 02:50:05 to the Christmas party Tuesday night because it turns out the guy who lives off of credit card points he can change a flight pretty easily. He was there and you know nobody knows anybody but people were coming up to me and they were like hey dude are you all right man that sitting guy fucking I thought he was great
Starting point is 02:50:22 he's fine dude and he's right here he's got some prime rip I just want to say that I think you guys pronounce all your words perfectly yeah no no criticism today I did I did have a when you guys are talking Philip Rivers. The stat popped in my head. I really wanted to talk about it. That's very important.
Starting point is 02:50:39 If he can get seven yards receiving by the end of this season, he will become second all-time receiving yards for 40-year-old plus, you know, age people. So anyone over 40, if you can get seven, he can pass Tom Brady on the all-time list and now leave him about 2,000 plus
Starting point is 02:50:54 behind Jerry Rice. So I feel like... Put it on the resume. I feel like he's back. Tom Brady has caught a pass after the age 40. He's got six yards receiving. vaguely remember that. I don't know if it was... There's never been another wide receiver over 40? On the list, on the list was...
Starting point is 02:51:10 Who is the Arizona guy? Terrell, David Boston? No. Larry Fitzgerald? Fitzgerald. It was around forever. No, no one Fitzgerald. It was the only other receiver on that list is...
Starting point is 02:51:21 Not even receiver. Tied in. It was Mercedes Lewis. Wow. You had like Brett Farve and maybe Aaron Rogers on there. But Brady was six and then Jerry Rice like 2000. Fitzgerald done by 37. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:32 Wow. Mercedes Lewis was shocking as well. beyond that that is a great step yeah man just pulling steps up I also wanted to just say I'm pro back in parking so team Dan
Starting point is 02:51:44 same I feel like yeah I felt like you were describing me in my F-150 I mean I'm a really really great back in Parker you all every one of you think
Starting point is 02:51:53 you're the best one the camera the camera helps you so much the camera out there right now like the camera makes it I'm better at backing in than I am at fronting in
Starting point is 02:52:01 because of the camera I don't have a front camera parking I often get out of the car. I'm like, God, who's parked? It's not... Like, I can't see this. I will open the side door and be like, is this parallel? Every one of them think they're the best
Starting point is 02:52:13 one, believe. I promise you, I'm saving time. I'm awesome. This is about people that can't drive, not about which way you park your car. I'll go out there. I'll do it. I'll put on a demonstration. Let's go. But a stopwatch? Yeah. We're going. The other thing I wanted to bring up was we were talking local commercials. Who's our girls at Angie Stevens?
Starting point is 02:52:29 Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah. She's great. She's great. Well, she came up. We were talking the other day. You mentioned her, yeah. We were looking for a car lot. And I think we might have found one, but an underreported part of the Angie Stevens commercials was they had all the cars, all the Ford F-150s and Explorers. The lights were blinking. Like it was Roger Rabbit. Like when the, what's her name, Jessica Rabbit walked by. It's like, all right, it's had a little pop here.
Starting point is 02:52:54 But we did find out late in her Rangers ad run that she was doing it all over. Higher gun. She's like an operator. Yeah, so she's not. Bring her in. And right for so. We found that out when we did guest booking league. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:06 I was trying to book her. I need, can I speak to Ms. Stevens, please? I believe she's in sales. Yeah. They're like, what are you talking about? I'm like, well, the lady from the commercial. I'm from a radio station. Yeah, we get that all the time.
Starting point is 02:53:19 Yeah, probably, yeah. Well, anyway, love you boys. Thanks for having us. The Christmas decorations look wonderful. I tried to be festive as well today. And I know you're sick of hearing from me and your guys are clamoring. And you're going, isn't that the guy?
Starting point is 02:53:33 to my left that was broadcasting the Southern Conference cross-country championships. Yes, it is. So I just want to make sure that Brendan gets some airtime as well. Brendan used to, what was your history with Ben and Skin? How long were you with them? About five years. I was there at the end of the ESPN run and then when we joined with KT at the fan. In fact, I remember having a specific conversation with KT because we thought we were about to get Bob and Dan and we were really fired up about that. Hell yeah. They would have been firing you, though. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 02:54:03 to cover their exorbitant salaries. Did you ever run? Who's your least favorite person you worked with at ESPN? At ESPN? Like did you, because we would get stuck with, you know, they,
Starting point is 02:54:14 when the ESPN was in the building, we had like our weekend crew and it would be like ticket guys. But then ESPN, they would just run in athletes, right? Different blowhard athlete who thinks they can do radio and then they would get stuck with a weekend board op
Starting point is 02:54:29 who had to try to like, you know, babysit them to an extent. It's always an interesting dynamic to me. I guess what I'm saying is what was stretch like. I dealt a little bit with stretch, but the weirdest one was, and I guess it's kind of weird because it was Richard Durrett. And so once Ben and Skin left ESPN, I had like a two-month stretch with Richard Durrett and Ian Fitzsimmons. That's right.
Starting point is 02:54:52 Dude, Ian was awesome. I haven't talked to him in a while. Are you saying you're glad that he's not around to? He didn't say that at all. It's a weird thing to say, Zach. He didn't say that at all. Zach went to the same place I went to rehab. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 02:55:08 The exact same place? Exactly same. Did you see pawn guy? There was variations of pond guy. Was it after? After, yeah. So there was a pond guy with me as well. He actually was a scholarship athlete at like USC.
Starting point is 02:55:21 Life didn't go too well for him. He was really young. But he ended up in the pond one day. And also, you know, there's a handful of people there, and Jake knows that aren't with us anymore, unfortunately. Yeah. but yeah it's been a i think like when i was at the dragon's den that was pretty pretty uh pretty new right after i got out of there i guess you know freed from the hab but uh we're we're rolling
Starting point is 02:55:45 strong right now you're hell yeah so is this the most difficult time of the year for that uh you know what i don't parties just i think it just needs to be known that jake and i are heroes really yeah yeah yeah jake did you read his heartfelt facebook post about his one year sobriety. There's no way you saw that. It was really cute. No, I don't. I don't, I'm not on Facebook. Zach texted me and said, hey, it's my one year. I would like to thank you for being a part of this. And I said, I would like to thank you. And that's all I need. I prefer not to know that any of my friends, anyone I know uses Facebook at all, barely Instagram. I just don't want to know that you guys are doing those things. That's fine. Didn't you say, like, after rehab,
Starting point is 02:56:27 you're like, I can't believe how many people have been in rehab. Oh, my God, yeah. I mean... Before you went there, you were like, I don't know if I... Yeah, if I do this, like, I'll stand out. There were a lot of people... Like, now it's like we stand out. In a lot of industries that were like, hey, yeah, remember I was kind of off the grid a couple years ago, and that's what happened.
Starting point is 02:56:48 There's way more people, yeah. But that doesn't make me or Zach seem as cool. No. To say, like, oh, everybody else had this album. but anyways Merry Christmas I guess Yeah Merry Christmas No more
Starting point is 02:57:01 No Ryan's just chilling He's like whatever I got nothing I'm laying in the cut I got a couple I got a couple things I got something for
Starting point is 02:57:07 I got something for Blake that you brought up a couple days ago About not wanting to answer your door Because it's either going to be A delivery person Or somebody that you don't want to talk to Yeah I stand by that I am here to not only support you
Starting point is 02:57:21 But tell all the DFs Anybody free on the stream You don't have to have a doorbell we don't need doorbells okay that's a good point we don't need doorbells my doorbell at my house hasn't worked in like over 10 years anybody who's coming i know they're going to be there and exactly what blake said if i don't know they're coming either they're going to drop off at delivery or i don't want to talk to them and why should they be able to interrupt the dogs what's going on in the house everything with this stupid little button it's a it's like a kaleidoscope it's not something we need
Starting point is 02:57:51 anymore. Kind of like on your phone, do you turn numbers that aren't in your address book? Like, it goes straight to voicemail for me, right? Yeah. There's like a setting you could do, so it doesn't ring. I never hear a ring that is from a marketer, a telemarketer. Like, I'll see it in voicemail later. Right.
Starting point is 02:58:11 But that's what you're doing with your door. Right. You're just turning off the alerts. There's no alert that there's somebody at the door because you know you're not going to want that. Turn off notifications. You got to do it. it. I think you've inspired me. I'm ripping out the ring door bill. Yeah, I did that for 10 years,
Starting point is 02:58:26 but then I had, then I just got a ring because I just thought. And that's the thing. We need, we need some sort of, we need a product from the, these tech companies where you have the camera, but nobody can press it. There is no indication that if you hit this, you are summoning me to the front. You don't have the power. You don't have it. It's perfectly cool to have a camera. You can also like turn that ring off, right? Or just... But I don't want... The ring doorbell has something
Starting point is 02:58:53 you plug in inside so you can hear the ring. Just don't plug it. It's got to be off, yeah. Yeah. There's definitely like a time when the doorbell rings and there's a part of my house
Starting point is 02:59:01 where you can see... Yeah. Through windows. And I get nervous. I'm like, I duck. I hit the ground. Oh, yeah. I'm like, it's one of the few things
Starting point is 02:59:07 that can still make me nervous. I'm like, why am I worried about them at my door? But I'm definitely like army crawling around the house trying to avoid these people that I don't know. I feel like you're in a number two stall in high school and you're like,
Starting point is 02:59:18 someone's in here you ever stare at them through the other side of the people no yeah i don't do that either actually never never did i don't i didn't come with a laundry list of corrections or anything for you guys but there's one thing i've been sitting on for five years which is it's den of iniquity not den of inequality i don't know if anybody's ever said that this is uh this is a miss on you there's no way he doesn't actually know that i didn't think it would be our own people I know. It just makes me sad almost. It does.
Starting point is 02:59:51 Yeah. So we got that. You've knocked yourself down a couple pegs here. But it's also good on our part where everything people say, like, we can screw so much stuff up. We can say shit that doesn't land and be like, yeah, you're not in on the bit. Yeah. You don't know the joke. Right.
Starting point is 03:00:07 Well, that's going to why I didn't rush to text you the day after it was said the first time. You know, it's like, who cares? We can edit this on run. Yeah, take it out for one. Thank God you brought up. I welcome you too. He went to send it for five years. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:18 Um, and other than that, appreciate that you guys are, uh, getting the word out about Weinbergers. Oh, yeah. I've been from a regular there from the time they opened. Uh, if anybody needs a consult on the menu. I've had everything at least once. Dan Weinberger offered to name a sandwich after me in 2005, but I didn't have one that was working at all. So, too humble. Have you had the Pugs and Kelly? Many, many times. Yes. And yeah, and even they were on terrestrial radio together i think when he when he put that out there um but i think yeah i don't know what the situation is with them now how's the stretch they don't have a stretch sandwich i don't think they do just trying to get us out of here adios mofo we got to go before this becomes a zoo
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