The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 12-30-25 | Subathon Replay #2

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

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Now, on to today's program. Don't hug me. Yeah. I'll ride, all right, all right. I'll see how this goes. It did indicate it might be delivered by one of those robots. Yeah. I saw one.

Yeah, where was I yesterday? Oh, I went to Deep Ellum yesterday because I went to what is it's the shell of its former self the ugly christmas sweater shop do you remember when that was up on mockingbird yeah and it was kind of humming yeah and now it's kind of in a corner of a bar just kind of set up you just go it's not what it used to be yeah is that what it is yeah i mean used to it was a much harder to find this stuff you know amazon yeah so i went to i did I didn't buy anything.

Do you want to punt the little robot? I didn't, but I thought about Philadelphia. Yeah. When I saw that thing. The kindness bot rolling around. I didn't know what it delivers food. Yeah, and at first I was kind of miffed because it says, like, you know, you know how you have to tip your driver before.

Don't tip the robot. Well, it asks you to. And then it says, I've read the fine print. It says if a robot delivers it, you get your tip back. So you have to hit like 20%, But if they match you with a robot, the robot doesn't get to keep your money. A worker, I'm okay, screwing over. Can we shout out Scott for the Stone Cold stuff?

Scott Crisp, local comedian, good dude. He's been on the show a bunch of times. Go see him. Scott Crisp, three peas on Instagram. He'll be here later. He will. Yeah, a lot of people involved with our show throughout the year are going to be on today's show, like Brandon Aubrey.

He'll be here at 10.15 today. Right now, it is 906, so that tells you when he'll be here. And joining us, I'm not sure if we have The Brunigs from my favorite Patreon podcast. Or if we just have... High School Sweetheart. A Brunig. Yes, the Brunig is here. The Bruning.

Matt Brunig, ladies of town. The great Matt Brunig. Our labor lawyer, look. what he's done for us. We've got to have Liz at some point because someone has to evaluate the gingerbread house. I think she's going to come in a bit. She's still sleeping right now. But I'm glad we have TC here.

That means we can talk running. Absolutely. Yeah, I heard about your 550. Yeah, yeah, 550 mile. You know, it's whatever. Whatever. Wait, for how long? That's my one mile time.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't think I'm talking. touching that. Have you, I thought you've, the most you've done is like a 10K. Or did you do a half marathon. I did a half marathon, um, not intending to, but a friend of mine was doing it and asked me to do it. And yeah, I ran that in an hour 45. So when you guys were talking, when you guys were talking about it. Almost two and a half hours. Okay. It's a good, it's two minutes slower per mile. Like he's running an eight minute mile, which I am not capable of doing. And that's fine. I don't. understand but here's the thing he's doping he's doping too with game day men health it is true

why not take stir i mean that is i was thinking about that as a copy point the other day is uh like you know how everybody always talks about baseball and they're like man i hated the part where everyone was on steroids no no one ever says that ever that's the best part go to game day and get on steroids look at the nfl the problem matt walla troll he has to be drawn out by the original over here. Matt would have never just said to me, hey, you ran this in over 10 minutes a mile. That fucking sucks.

I ran it in eight. He would think that. Right. He's just a nice guy. Whereas T.C.'s family, they say it to each other amongst themselves because they're running people. And running people have to let you know that they run and how fast they run and that they run a lot.

And that's really what I'm fighting against here. it's not the fact that it's not the fact that tc who is tc delivered the message about how shitty i run that has nothing to do it doesn't help and then it's we see his dad the other day and he's like oh any joking we do about that is in love and i'm like i don't think we know each other well enough for it to be like you suck at this that's a joke it's like okay hey dude you got a shitty time yeah what a get on the fleming family level yeah What do they run, T.C., your family? I don't know exactly.

You know, Tom's qualified for Boston a couple times, but I think it is age group, but that's not nearly as hard as it is at your age group. Well, but Tom's knocked off 49 of 50 states and marathon. In March, we'll hit all 50 of 50. Okay, that's weird. But that seems almost like an experience thing, not a quality thing. Definitely.

Some of those were six-hour marathons, for sure. Yeah, yeah. this traveling to run. I think how cool. Three and a half's probably the best he's done. Like you could literally do it right outside your house. Yeah. To teach their own, I guess.

But yeah, Matt, Matt, he's got some nascent athletic talent he'll let you know about. Well, you started as hiking guy, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was hiking. Well, I took my kid hiking because she really wanted to hike because she'd seen it on Blueie or whatever. and I enjoyed it so I started doing that and then I was like well you know to really get better at hiking I should run which sounds wild but you know I did want to get better at it is is difficult to go up those hills and I started running and then really it was actually just August of last year that I picked up and I was like you know what I'm actually trying to get good at running that's a thing Jake if you really wanted to in three months you could get you could get there but that's what also makes running kind of stupid because it's really just like do you want to just go plug in 30 miles a week and

if you do you're going to get good because the body adapts and that's it is not I mean there's it's got to be some limit you know I just find it exclusionary to other type of exercise and then I don't like that right like you have to just do that or at least I do I have to just run to get that down and then what's going to happen to my sick biceps I don't no no that's totally for reasonable, but that's why their thing is sort of weird. It's like it's you've just dedicated a bunch of time to it but anyone could. I mean, that's the funny

thing with the Oprah, right? Oprah runs faster than Jake. Because again, literally anyone could run like reasonably fast if they put in the time. That's it. But that's not true for strength or other kinds of sports or quick what it was fast twitch kind of

stuff. All that is more you know, talent. Skill. Yeah. At its essence, he is, this is my thing. He has distilled it down to what bothers me about it. But people don't, it is weird just to go to races and stuff that you're not really in it to win a race. Well, I have to tell you. To say that you accomplished it, but you could also accomplish it outside your door. But to Big Tom's point of doing this as an experience, I will tell you, like, I don't love running culture, but there's something just cool about being around that many people who are all in a good mood.

and I don't like the running part of it may help like there's endorphins releasing but it's just a cool scene it is it's not for you you have to stop evaluating things that normal people look at as as yourself and be like that sounds awful well no I'm talking about the house they look they're outside I've listened to Matt talk about you know his experiences too and it's it's just weird it's not like you expect to win that race but everybody's I guess just racing against themselves And then are you mad if you don't? Yeah, because it's timed. Yeah, I was pissed when I missed my 20-minute 5K on Thanksgiving. So that was what I was working towards. Isn't that the one that you're deadly sick or something? I was, yeah. Yeah.

But, you know. Don't tell T.C.'s family that. They're checking the time either way. Doesn't matter if you played three flag games and pulled your hamstring the day before. Doesn't matter. So we've haven't, we've had you on a million times. Finding out how your lifts are going. Yeah, you need to.

Yeah. Tack into my whoop score. Pussy. yeah yeah okay blanket question do you as the nation's leading voice and protecting our workers feel compelled to speak up and defend like Lane Kiffin I don't what's wrong with Lane Kiffin

then he's a bad example because he's you know I actually don't have my point is when we talk about you know honoring contracts Dan who I think you know where his sympathies lies like man it is kind of icky that these guys don't have to honor these contracts at all. Like, is there any limit to the level of freedom that they should be, that they should have?

So I haven't anyone ever read one of these contracts? I have it. I'm sure you could get them. But, I mean, my impression is that whatever you, they have an option to leave. Now, I don't know if that's formal in the contract or if that's just kind of understood. but I would assume that this is all hashed out in the contract already and that they have these options to leave and but to do it you have to do a buyout and what like that this is all just set up like that and the schools are not willing to put it in to be more restrictive

because the coach won't accept it you know yeah you you were texting with me telling me that it's it is bargained for essentially in the contract because there's a written buyout And it says you've got to pay this exorbitant fee, but colleges are willing to do that. And I guess it's kind of like we've talked about radio stations not wanting to steal each other's talent because, like, legally, yeah, you could just leave your radio contract and go somewhere else because you can't bind someone to make them work where they don't want to work. but radio stations won't do that. It's a collusion type thing, isn't it? That they won't, they don't want that done to them. Whereas in college football, I guess,

probably the money is just flowing so freely because it is not in radio. Yeah. But to grab, you know, oh, it wouldn't hurt us to just spend an extra 20 million trying to make sure we can climb that mountain because we're making more. An upstream problem just about how colleges work and have too much money. It's probably got to be at the top and there has to be some kind of a collective bargained thing. And then you would probably end up having to pay the players what they actually should make.

And that's why they allow the coaches thing to just run wild because we just got to worry about this situation. It would cost us much more to focus on the players. What do you think of that, Matt? I mean, I think they could lock down the coaches without paying the players if they really wanted to. The problem is going to be, yeah, you're going to have antitrust violations if they do try to make this like a rule-based thing with the coaches. And really the coaches, in the absence of being able to collude in that way legally, the coaches just for whatever reason, they're just very valuable and important individuals. I don't really get it.

I mean, I guess it has to do with recruiting or whatever. To me, it seems like surely there's got to be hundreds of people who could coach college football reasonably well, but I guess at that tippy top, that's not the case. And so it's not that I don't, I bet the schools individually would like to, like they might even negotiate and try to get, you know, it's set up so that the coach can't leave. But the coach, someone like Lane Kiffin with their agent, just says no. We're never going to accept that. And if you won't let us have this buyout, we'll go to some other team who will set it up the way we want to.

So, you know, that's, I think, the setup. But I do agree that there's just a lot of money. It clearly is the case that college football coaches are just kind of grabbing a bunch of rent that flows into the college football system. And both because they don't pay players, but one that I somewhat sometimes troll about, but I actually think is legit is by federal law the NFL is not allowed to play Saturday games

until like the middle of December and so college football is given this sort of like monopoly of Saturday and breaks in a bunch of money and then they don't have to pay players and then where's it going to flow it's going to flow to the coach.

Wow, that's a federal law. That seems not right. It's very bizarre. Well, I mean, I guess it's just under it's like a i don't know f tc type thing right of you do have to regulate some level of yeah it's presented as as kind of like we're going to let you guys have a monopoly over pro football but in exchange you can't play on saturday or friday so you know you're not going to get to stamp out to the high school and college football uh stuff so uh you know i don't know i think

it's weird but that's that's how it's presented is you know is there any aspect of the fact that like I you know I know that non-profit doesn't mean that they don't make a profit but like the fact that these are universities if if somehow the University of Texas football franchise was owned by a guy

and he could just keep some amount of the profits do you think that that would change things do the schools have to spend it? You know what that makes me think of is I should go see when this was enacted but probably when it was enacted college football was a much smaller deal And so it was seen as kind of like, oh, we're just protecting the University of Texas

and we want to make sure, you know, before it became the massive business that it is. So maybe it made more sense in that context. And then also that would make sense why they're also saying they can't play on Friday because they're trying to protect the high school football culture. But now, I mean, college football is a pro-type league, it seems like. As a logical man, what would you say? Because I think about this stuff a lot now, I guess, because, like, my kid goes to a college that costs a lot, and they pay their coach a ton. And I just don't, I'm in the middle of it, and I think it's ridiculous.

That's why you got that bumper sticker, right? It's ridiculous, yes. Your money and your daughter? My money and my daughter go to Clemson. And I, we've talked about this for a long time. I was just talking to somebody yesterday who told. his kids, they have to go to school in Texas because he's not going to pay for out-of-state stuff. And then I gave him the story of Jake, and Jake had regrets.

He never left his hometown. He would have liked to see a bit of the world. I remember thinking about that, and when saying to my kids, go ahead, just go wherever you want. And it does seem that possibly, like, no one will ever ask you where you went to school. and it won't really matter. Anyway, what does logical Matt Brunig think about that as far as, like, would you let, would you impose these rules upon your kids? You have two kids that are under 10 years old, right?

Sure, yeah. Well, you know, it depends on how much money you have, I guess, how much money you've put away, and how much money you want to spend. Let's say you have all the money. Money is not an option. Yeah, I mean, there is research about the effect of college on your out. But it kind of depends on how you want to think about it, right? So if you kind of control for the incoming quality of the student, right?

So we can't just look at the average outcomes of Yale students versus Texas Tech because obviously they're coming in at different abilities. But if you control for the underlying abilities, there are some schools that have outsized effects on people's outcomes. But they're often schools you don't expect. So like the City University of New York, CUNY, is often ranks very high on this. It does a good job of taking people like where they are and like, you know, making them make the bigger leap. And then at the tippy top, it seems like with Ivy League schools

because of how they're integrated with certain employers, like finance and consulting and whatever, just getting into that employment stream helps a lot. which may or may not have to do with the quality of the education, but just because it's connected into that path. But overall, I don't really think, from what I can tell, that it matters that much, aside from those kind of exceptions, what school you go to,

especially among the kind of schools that you're able to get into, the idea that like the education at the 50th ranked school versus the 150th rank school that is, different at all is kind of preposterous. At the same time, people go for experience. They go because they might want to get a job in that area. You know, wherever you're going to college, that's probably a good shot. That's where you're going to get employed. So, you know, there's those factors, I guess. Are you glad you got to see the world? Yeah, Norman, Oklahoma. I saw some crazy stuff there um you know but mostly because i chose to live the cheapest way you could possibly live so you got to

imagine like just the bottom rung of of norman oklahoma and and and some sort of adjacent rural oklahoma areas it was what do you mean trailer parks oh yeah yeah or or just the most run down kind of those giant apartment complexes so i rented a place it was called the commons which I thought it was very disrespectful. Call it the poories. It was really. Maybe they're hearking to Boston. They had like four of, it was the same company that owned these apartment complexes, but they were different tiers.

So like if you were a rich, the rich one was called Crimson Park. Oh, yeah. And then not that far away, but radically different, including things like no security gate up front the facilities like they just kind of dialed everything down to poor and then they just put the commons on it that's a nice touch um but you would rent a room in a four-bedroom apartment you would not rent it i guess if you could get together people wow i've never heard that that's like a new york thing right yeah a big city so i had three roommates who i didn't know in advance um you would think this is student housing not so um so one guy is there and he has a motorcycle

which is weird um and some at one point he comes to me and he's like can you drive me to my motorcycle and his motorcycle is just in just in some random rural part of Oklahoma and And I was like, I guess, but how did you, why is the motorcycle there and how did you get here? Like, who, I don't understand what's going on. And he wouldn't explain what was happening. There was some future point in which law enforcement came to the house and was looking for this guy. And I just told him, I don't know where he is, which was true. But he never came back after that.

Oh, wow. Yeah. You ever been Okie noodling? I'm not. I've seen videos of it, though. Yeah. Fishing with your hand I don't remember how we started

I don't remember where we were headed Yeah it was College, the college life Yeah well let's Let's play one of our pre-recorded Bits Okay We'll see if Liz Brunig wakes up

How do you feel about that? I'm good with it You're texting her? I'll text there you If she's awake She'll see the text Yeah pre-recorded bit And we'll keep

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That's Grady Spencer of Grady Spencer and the work. Liz could sleep behind these doors all day. Sure. Never hear any of the noise outside. Yeah. Matt's screaming at the kids. Do you see Matt Bruning is a guy that would scream at the kids? I do not.

Um, no, but everybody's got the moment they get there. Yeah, it happens sometimes. Yeah. Doesn't? Okay. Because I feel like you would just view them as, you viewed it as a curiosity. Like, I always did, too. This is a cool experiment here.

Look at, look at this person melting down. Why? Why are they doing this? His kids are a worthy opponent. You've seen it. No, I do try to help. I don't view it as a curiosity, but I do try to. always tell myself, well, look, they're essentially mentally handicapped. So, like, you need to be

careful. Like, they can't help it. But that's to keep me from going too crazy. I mean, I don't yell at them that much, but, you know, it happens. What was the, we were doing yesterday? Oh, it's when things happen and that you see immediately there's no possible way forward. And you just can't, it's impossible. And yesterday, we were going to go to this circus thing at the mall. It wasn't real. It was like three acts or whatever. But then she also wanted to go to five below. I was like, okay, well, we can do that, but we'll have to do that after the circus. And she's just losing her mind.

I'm like, well, but it's like the circus has a time. And like you got to, you can't. But they five below we can do whenever. And that just wasn't going to do it. But then if we went to five below, she would be very mad we didn't go to the circus. And so she's like, oh, my God. Yeah, and then, yeah. You have to treat them like they're mentally disabled.

That's also why people frown even more when you hit them, you know? I really enjoy the Brunigs doing parenting talk because the Brunigs, I guess, what would you describe your podcast as? Just talking about the news? Yeah, news, politics, just whatever, and then life, you know. But I do enjoy that. You were talking recently about... kids screwing up Christmas because they want to help and that just slows things down and

maybe this is more of a Liz thing like I'm trying to decorate the house and the kid now wants to help but they suck at it yeah yeah or cooking something or this is a very talented baker and uh you know crafty kind of person like uh should see some of the you know finally decorated cookies she does so it's you know there's There's something there for her. When the kids do it, it's just, like, insanely irritating. I don't know that I have anything quite like that, you know, that works that way that they also want to do. Yeah, they don't run labor statistics poorly.

Right. Or, like, species data. Your Python is crap here. Jane liked to code in the, like, kid coding language. What's it called? It's like an MIT thing. and so she likes to watch like i could show her like this is real coding you know but but she's not not taking any stabs at it it's like randy with guitar hero like couldn't randy marsh like play

guitar awesome but the kids are like that's gay like they just played guitar hero mr marsh that's gay guitar queero i think the name of the episode no i uh i i i take a lot of my parenting cues from it sucks she's not here because she's also one of the few people that i feel like makes like the holiday's not gross she's pure christmas person it's like it just feels it feels warm that's the way you were raised yeah yeah i mean best efforts yeah no one loves christmas more than your mom i feel yeah um also just some of the topics they bring up are very cool and kind of gummy thoughts although i don't think matt enjoys the gummy i don't know liz does Yeah, just, okay, so one of them was it had to do with animated characters.

One, they were talking about could a cartoon character be a virgin? Wait, where did that one come from? What's his name? Callan, Tyler Cowan, who is an economist at George Mason, wrote a piece at the free press, which is like right wing, I guess. guest you would say mostly pro is a real outlet weirdly enough um and he was saying that his new favorite actress is an ai actress and that she's a virgin it was something like uh last chance last good chance to see a virgin on screen it's that it was really it was exactly that

it's this is like a 60 year old man uh it's very bad So he's upset that there aren't virgins anymore. Yeah, I guess he has a strong preference for virgins on screen. But like you said, it just tickled my mind. Like, what do we, wait, wait, so as a character, how can a cartoon be a virgin? It's not a person, like an actress could be a virgin, but like a character, it's fake. Or is it only if they're a virgin, like in the canon of their character? Right.

Can a cartoon character be a whore? They can have sex in their cartoon. I've seen it on the internet, but... But not really part of the story. But also is that what if... Are they a willing participant, or is this actually some kind of a... Not statutory, but some kind of a forced... Can characters consent?

Yeah. That's fair, yeah. No, they can't say no to nudity or things like that. Did Marge Simpson want to be with... Peter Griffin? Probably not. It looked like she did, but how do we know? This is an animator.

Or when you talk about animated characters, are they just that character? Can the animated character play another role? Right. No, that was the thing that I was so baffled by with the AI one, right? How can this be, this is my new favorite actress? Well, she stars in other movies where she has a different. character like a real person does but that's just a new thing each time it's not this there's no continuity of the AI entity across you know at least in a in a like a Elsa like frozen type thing

well it's Elsa in all two movies or three movies or whatever he's talking about someone who one time plays like the lovable librarian then the next time plays joan of arc or something but it's AI that that's not the same thing these are different instances surely yeah he makes it sound like the AI, it goes home. Right. Like, it goes home. It's sometimes pickets, like, it's sag benefit. Like, no, this is not a person.

Goes to the dark. Right. Has a husband might have, you know, there'd be an announcement. Oh, baby bump. And he's really kind of judgy about the roles she takes. He's always on. Kind of messed up. Beating her. Yeah, that's right. She has

to be very selective. She doesn't want to be typecast. You have to kiss another one of the box? No way. But then I was wondering, can Elsa, you see her, you know what she looks like, and then they come out with a new Snow White, but Elsa, that character is playing Snow White and identifies as Snow White. Are you allowed to do that? See, I thought you were going to say when you said they play other characters, that they start Frozen 3, and it's just Elsa sitting in like a break room going, making copy. She's like trying to do other bits, as Elsa. There are limitations here somewhere. Yeah, and where are the lines when a character stops?

Because one of the big frozen conspiracies, which I think Ben Shapiro even kind of gave some, is that in the next one, she's going to be a lesbian. And like at that point, I don't know. If she's a lesbian, does that make her no longer Elsa? we run into this with Santa and Black Santa all the time is Black Santa Santa Santa or is that just a different thing?

Boy, well, yeah, if you look at the origin of Santa, I mean, was probably Black, kind of like Jesus, right? No. The real Santa. I don't think so. I think it was European. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

St. Nicholas was like, you know, he was of the Middle East, right? Sure. But I'm saying every day, depiction of Jesus you see is a white man that looks like you. Boy, we watched a are you guys familiar with this kid's movie Klaus? No.

It's a, yeah, I think I've seen that. Tray's shaking his head, yeah, really, really weird. I'm not, it's sort of like, you know, like when they started, when Christopher Nolan started making Batman, and you're like, well, that's Batman, but it's definitely not the Batman I knew. It's like Santa, but it's, he's rugged

and, like, kind of pissed and, like, kind of dark, but he's still, he lost his wife, I think. He did a gritty reboot of Santa? Dude, for real. They have, and it's just called Klaus. And he's like ripped. Who needs this?

I'm telling him, it was a weird experience. It's like my daughter's like. It's not called Klaus. They say it like they say it in Germany, I would assume. Yeah. Somewhere over there. Not fucking Palestine. I can tell you that.

Yeah. You think that the character named Christopher Kringle came from. Santa's like a Russian guy. St. Nicholas. This is Greek. Yeah. I thought it was like Finnish. I think there is a Finnish character that is...

He did. Janus's brother. The Nasus. So we had Matt on a couple years ago, Matt, one of the great labor lawyers in our nation. He sends fear into other lawyers who... Actually, they usually are just confused by you, right? They don't understand what you're doing. And then all of a sudden you kind of teach them about...

the law like hey i'm actually allowed to do this that's that those are the cases i like the most definitely i do have some bread and butter you know someone got fired for talking about wages kind of thing and you know they usually understand what's going on there but well yeah i like to i like cases like like yours where the people don't know what's going on and then eventually you get to drop a bomb on them especially if they're a guy who thinks he's going to live forever and measure his awesome boners and the next thing you know he's got this guy burr in his saddle son wake up it's boner measurement time

now who is that Brian Johnson yeah he's the live forever guy Matt got into it with him well yeah I mean the guy had a lot of his yeah I think his girl well Mac can tell you his girlfriend was like working for him and then you know

if someone's working for you you still have to treat them like an employee even if you're like having sex with them and I think that part might have escaped Brian like you can't fire her because she stopped having sex with you? I don't think so. Oh, no. Damn it's the, uh, it's this actually that those cases are about confidentiality and non-disparagement two clauses. You guys were also subject to,

but kind of got pushed to the side. But a lot of employers use those. And this is a, uh, uh, I've had now had multiple cases where some kind of weird relationship or sex thing is occurring, but the person employs them and then gets them to sign an employment agreement that has non-disparagement, confidentiality in it. And I don't know if this is like a strategy people are now using because people, you know, like, well, you can have NDAs and employment contracts that are, you know, people think are enforceable. But the other one was a cult leader who he was having his employees who he also had sex with

sign these things and then really threatening them if they wanted to talk about, you know, anything about the cult or whatever. so cult's just out there like you feel like you hear about all of them but certainly not no no you don't hear about it too break yeah there's one at matt's the commons apartment complex right now i'm sure there's got to be yeah you know what i wanted to lead into i was going to talk about santa's workshop and i still am but as you talk about signing confidentiality agreements i thought of something else i was explaining to a friend of mine yesterday because he was talking about how he loves Jerry Jones, from afar.

He lives in Cleveland. And he said, and I was like, he's like, yeah, there's always stuff going on. I'm like, yeah, you know, they're always finding new kids that he has. He's like, wait, what? Like, he didn't know about that story. Oh, wow. And so I was kind of explaining to him about a girl that emerged in the past couple of years that wanted to sue him for paternity, like proof that you're my dad.

but her mom had signed an NDA when she was a baby, but then she turns 18, and she's like, well, I was a baby. I can say whatever I want, and I got to think you love that. Absolutely. No, anytime you can get out from underneath these things, you know, it's incredible. And, yeah, my particular approach is to take advantage of the fact that you always have a right to, with one of your co-workers or even really technically

any employee in the country to talk about your working conditions publicly. So we take that little exception and we just drive the biggest truck we can through it and yeah, people are unaware that there's a little loophole

in that system there. Whenever you say any employee then could be any person like they're not employed now but like presumably looking good job. No, the case on this Braggs Manufacturing, 1953, I think. Here we go.

It's anyone who is a current employee, a former employee, or a, quote, member of the working class generally. There you go. It has those protections. That particular prong has never been filled out. What would it mean to be a member of the working class generally who's not also a current or former employee? but it exists as a hypothetical thing. I had an idea of what about a like a stay-at-home mom whose husband, you know, works.

She's a member of the working class generally, even though she's never been employed. But this is not. We've never been able to test this. Alex Davis, the Jerry daughter, fun note, worked for Ronnie Jackson. White House doctor, Ronnie Jackson, who I think was...

Oh, he's not the cowboy. hat doctor no but i promise you they've met i promise you they've met but when so when a coach watches a game they probably view in a different way they're looking for the cover too they're looking for the whatever uh throw out some cool football terms that that they're looking for pad level so when matt brunig watches uh the story of rudolph and santa's workshop and the elves and all that kind of stuff. Does Matt Brunich see that in a different light? Like how we've talked about this maybe a couple of years ago, but it is that time of year again. I don't know how recently you've watched Rudolph, or if your kids are fired up about that, the old

60s version, I guess it is. Yeah, no, we went to the aquarium and they were doing a 4D version of Rudolph, which was a truncated version. Have you done the 4D movies? I have not. So the 4D is that they just, like, spray, spray shit on you. Just like water. Oh, a little Gallagher type. Okay. Yeah. So when it's snow?

So you have the 3D. Yeah, so snow that just dump some stuff on you and then the stuff moves around. But you're watching the same regular show. Yeah, yeah. All right. They 3D the show and then they also, the 4D by just dumping stuff on you. Yeah. Yeah.

That's an extra D. Yeah. That's more D. More than I bargained for. Yeah, I've only had three. Yeah, okay. So I have seen it recently, though, that was a truncated version of it, which is kind of funny to watch, too, because it's, you know,

like, what if you try, had to compress it to 15 minutes, and it's, you know, so much of it has to just kind of be like, so then, you know, they kind of liked the guy, and he was a monster, but he's cool now, you know, because, like, we can't depict it because we just don't have time, so. So the quick editing. But, you know, what do you think of Santa's workshop? Does it pass muster with you?

You know, it's very, it's funny. I mean, the first thing that happens in Santa's workshop in that one is Hermie, is his foreman comes up to him and just says, what's eating you, boy? And he says, I'm not happy in my work. And then he says, what? He says, I just don't like to make toys. And then I think he borders on some possibly homophobic taunting of him about, oh, you, you want to be a dentist, you know,

oh, you know, you know, because Hermie is a little effeminate. And so that was the first thing I didn't really. Then he also alerts everyone else, right? Oh, Hermie wants to be a dentist. Let's all make fun of him. Right. And that's in response to Hermes saying he doesn't like the work. You know, So he is discussing his working conditions, and now here we're kind of getting some retaliation. Now, Hermie is not working with his co-workers, so that's a problem. If I were advising him, I would say if you're going to complain about making toys, at least get one other person on the line to complain with you. That's important, the concerted?

Yeah, you have to concert. That's the big thing, people. Anytime you want to do anything that you think your employer's going to get mad at, just get at least one other person involved. and your legal protections are going to increase exponentially. Dan found it pretty easy. That's why Jake indoctrinated me. Oh, see, we both tried to jump on that fumble of who is the blame for this.

Now, you guys were perfect at it. You guys had the cleanest, like, case file I've ever seen. Like, even your resignation, do it together. Let's write an email together. It was very cute. Well, no, I thought it was odd when they asked us to, resign, our contract had run out. Yeah, we learned a lot there.

Why did we have to resign then? But you were like, yeah, do it. But no, I do think it's interesting. I want to keep the narrative moving here. Oh, sorry. No, I just forget, like, the not liking work thing is central to this movie. And I know, I also just, I watched it's a wonderful life

yesterday, because we're going to talk about it with Dan's daughters. Profoundly populist socialist movie or pro people move but like right out of the gate this is a movie about like this guy's not happy with his identity at work like it hits you in the face and also a little too on the nose keep working don't name him hermy like yeah i just i know that like the 60s we didn't have a ton of terms for like ambiguous gender but do you feel like that was intentional come on all right her me i never thought of it all right so there are definitely

theories that it's intentional and that a lot of the movie is about homosexuality um so but yeah i mean i i don't remember too much uh i remember that pit um i mean are they indentured servants yeah i mean we don't know what they're paid um there seems to be i mean this kind of happens with the reindeer as well now like we've kind of in our society we treat animals this way anyway so i guess it doesn't come off as weird, but when Rudolph is born, Santa, like, comes to visit and is like, well, you know, I got to check my future slave animals, basically. It gets it's weird because they can talk. They're anthropomorphized so that you feel a little bit like, this is bizarre. I mean, imagine if your boss was in the delivery room. Well, then he's very mean, too. He tells, he tells him,

he's like, you should be ashamed that this is your kid. And the dad's like, I am. Yeah. Yeah. He sucks. Yeah, and he's like, maybe we can cover the red nose with dirt. So there's kind of like a, like, you know. Racial undertone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just an odd. It just feels like they wouldn't make that today. No, I agree. That's how I felt about it's a wonderful life. Like the movie starts with like, this guy was too generous. Now he wants to kill himself. My damn.

Yeah. Okay. Now that's a movie that needs. it to be truncated and put in 4D. Like, I'll take the 4D if it gets a bit long, pre-editing the 1920s. No, I like the 15-minute kid movie. You know, you tack it on to an aquarium visit. It's really, it's a clever setup they have.

So anyway, Matt, with the Brunigs, I know we've discussed this in the past. Did you get your 52 hours in this year? Oh, it's a big week. Well, let's see. Brunig's an accountability project. because yes was this in response do you know

the person who put together the Bruning Accountability Project are they at all aware of Dan's criticism yeah no it was done in response to Dan's criticism this is amazing

you've affected change for the better more Brunigs is better absolutely although I was shocked to learn that it sounds like they've done pretty well I would have bet the under

does this include Liz and the friend no okay I need 52 hours Matt. Yeah, he has distinguished between all episodes and quota eligible episodes, which is based on his own standards. He has us actually

at 53 hours of quota eligible content this year. So we are we already hit it. Yeah. So we are two hours and 30 minutes ahead of pace. So I should expect feet up for the next two weeks, though. We're not going to get any more burnings.

Oh, well, you know, the kids are with the grandparents over the Christmas break. So I might put some extra content out there. Also, just any time the grandparents wander through the life, I need an update quickly. I love it. It's always hijinks. I love it all. I love.

They're coming today. The Liz parents? Yeah. Oh, okay. That's a. They're content generators. They are. I feel like your parents and her parents would not mix at all.

No, they have not mixed. at all in fact yeah yeah that's how i remember that was uh you'd see them occasionally i'm trying to think of cases where they were all alive and in the same plate but you know my mom's parents and my dad's parents it's about as different as you hear the brunigs and it was like seeing your teacher at the grocery store if i ever saw them together it's like holy shit like it honestly it was like seeing the homer and uh meg griffin or whatever this is a continuity error back to the cartoon set yeah the two of the you're two great because one of them

were like real country and one of them it's just seeing them in the same place it did feel like this is not right there's a glitch here somewhere yeah no I can I mean thankfully they live kind of across the country but I would say the the class difference

element would be a major issue even though you know there's kind of like a nouveau rich hillbilly element to Liz's families more affluent lifestyle, it still creates problems, I think. I mean, they have seen each other occasionally. And, yeah, I would say my...

How long you have that jacket? My parent, especially my mom, she's so, like, keyed up on, like, are people judging me? Do people think, like, she's just paranoid that everyone all the time is kind of just thinking that she's, like, a dumbic. And I don't really think they are. But, you know, you live that life long enough at the bottom. You probably think everyone thinks you're... Dude, and that sucks, too.

I bet it's even so much worse if Matt's your son. Because, like, I'm not that intelligent of a guy, but the fact that my parents didn't go to college, and we're certainly smart enough, too, they just didn't, right? There wasn't what you did. They, like, I can tell they're insecure around me because I, like, oh, you know, you're smarter and everything. I'm like, I'm really not.

I swear to God, I'm not, but they think I am because I know a few things. Because you go around talking about that master's degree But imagine if your son was Matt You know like God I am a dummy I guess you gotta be proud But I do with that at home My mom you know feels like she's dumb And I'm like mom no

Like you've run a business for 50 But she thinks well college is what makes you A smart person Yeah No that's interesting and that it bleeds over to you I think that that's not their feeling towards me They kind of think like We got one of ours

To go out and do this Like, they like that aspect of it, and they like the fact that I'm able to solve many of their problems with the Social Security Administration and stuff like that. Yeah, that's an ace in the hole for sure. Yeah, yeah. No, we had that with my grandma. She recently needed to get on, like, Medicaid long-term support and services stuff, and they were just like, what do we do? Dude, you know what's crazy? Can you imagine not having a mat to do that?

Most people don't. So that's the thing is that it's funny. I was going to text you about this. I was at a Christmas on Saturday, very far apart, politically, socially. There's one group of people that are doing quite well financially and everyone else. And they're all 65 and older now. One thing that can get all those people together is complaining about signing up for anything via, like, they're all just like, oh, God, I don't know how to do it. I'm scared.

I'm picking the wrong one. It's like, geez. Oh, yeah, like Medicare Advantage. Yeah. They're like, oh, they're going to try to get you with that. I heard about Advantage. No, the elderly, yeah, and it's all all daytime TV is Medicare Advantage ads. And yeah, you run into any other person that's like, which Medicare Advantage plan?

What about Medicaid, Medicare gap plans, supplement plans, A, B, and D, you know, and that's all a function of privatization, by the way. Like before we allowed private insurers to administer Medicare plans, it was like you just got, you know, Medicare A and Part B. I'm old. Yeah. Well, if we're lucky enough, and your tracker is lucky enough to have this posted on the Brunigs this week. It will let everyone know that the reason we're having Matt on today, it's for our sub-a-thon. If you would like to subscribe to the Dumb Zone, we'll have Matt on occasionally, just for you. If you do subscribe, if you're just a regular Brunigs listener.

And you can go to DumbZone.com. We've got some links up there. on the Sub-Athon tab. And if you want to donate to the North Texas Food Bank, if you subscribe, we'll donate to the North Texas Food Bank for you. So how about that? How about it? All right, Matt.

We appreciate you, man. That is the great Matt Brunig. The great Mac Brunig. Thank you. Good luck, guys. All right. Tell Liz, good morning when she gets up. I will.

All right. There goes Matt Brunig. Run, run, Rudolph, Santa's got to make it to town. Yeah, Santa make him hurry, tell him take the freeway down. Yeah, run, run, Rudolph, and feeling like a merry-go-round. It goes out to Andrea Gerard. I just messed up his name real bad, but he smelled really good. I can.

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He's on music. That's Scott Crisp. He of the Oddball History Podcast and stand-up comedy. Where did Sir Roy go? He was just here a minute ago. Slippery. We're going to have him sit down. All right.

Or not. We could do this. I'll take the win probability tweet, Clayton. And I just wanted to get into this a little bit because... Oh, good. Is this, no, is this like, you can tell me what percentage that the team has to win now? Correct. All right.

So, I think that there's, like, there's two things happening here. It's annoying to me that they mentioned the win probability on the broadcast, as you pointed out the other day. Amazon broadcasts. And Soroy joins us too for this. So they're going to show you the win. They're going to tell you on Amazon. That's basically Kirk's analysis. You know, earlier it was Seattle 2%.

Now it's not a – but I don't like hearing it on a broadcast, but it is a real thing based on numbers. But they put these out enough to where people like Dan – has started to say, I'm tired of hearing there's a 2% chance. There's no way all these 2% chances keep coming true. Isn't that generally your... Something. I just think it's kind of worthless. Like, it doesn't make sense if you tell me it's 58%.

Oh. Like, do I run to the bank? Like, what do I do then? And I look at these betting sites too, and it's like, oh, this one, 53% that it's going to cover. Okay. although Mike probably was thinking about the win probability with uh yeah I was in the high 90s I had it my models had it in the high 90s for Oregon to cover no you're freaking seattle that one too 99 effing yards those idiots dude a double a triple yes Oregon to cover the other night who they play jm you yeah they're just getting destroyed from the get go it's like 30 to three yeah and I'm looking at this the computer like okay

Well, I mean, I'm watching the game on the computer. So why, you know? But, yes, they get the ball. At the end of the game, it's all garbage time at the one yard line. Their own one. They somehow drive it down with a minute left. They get to fourth and goal from the one. Yeah.

And only a touchdown would do it. Yeah. And the touchdown. 20 and a half points and they were up by 22 or whatever, 23. Yeah, a touchdown killed it. But we're still reeling from this Seahawk nonsense that basically saved all your A-holes and then that on top of it. Oh, you should have seen me. I did the two, Christine, and I'm like, man, rough year, 2025.

I can't get a win this year. But then I convince myself 2026 is the year of Soroy. He's on nowhere to go, but up. You are transferring from the year of Blake. We've determined this. Why do we call it the year of Blake? We got Angelo. Cowboys.

The Cowboys stuff has been big. another boy. Cowboys. He had another kid. He's got a, the best mustache we've ever seen. It's all coming up like this year. Seahawks covered. Yeah. But he's got a week left. So next year's available currently? Currently, it's open. Let me have it. Please. Yeah. The year of shale. Isn't that really just a tweet about momentum? No, it's not so much about momentum. And I don't, I didn't know Mike was going to be coming in. I don't want sports talk, but. Oh, I'm sorry. Here's the thing. I feel like there's no way for me to do this without. sounding like I think I'm smart but what I'm trying to admit is that I know I'm not and I think

this is like TC and I talk about this all the time like Nate Silver wrote a book called the signal and the noise and generally what I took away from it is human beings are idiots your brain is not a computer when you do the like oh that happens all the time it doesn't you remember the times that it happens it's constant confirmation bias in your brain you're making sense of the world this is survivorship bias they don't post the games that are 98% chance of winning that then conclude with that team winning. And if you think about like a 2% chance or a 3% chance, that's like one in every 35, 40 games, that's about how often teams come back and win, about once a month.

But is this why this is stupid stat to even have? That means every game is probably going like this, right? Oh, look, they got a 60%. Oh, no, now they scored. So now it's like they've got a 62%. Oh, no, no. No, I mean, I think when you see it actually moving and you see it moving higher and higher and higher, that is showing you this is less likely to go the other way. Well, you're just because you're running out of time.

I mean, it's not accounting. Why don't I just look at the clock? You're not accounting for a punt return touchdown. I mean. I am not arguing that this is unnecessary. I'm arguing that when people post it and everyone in the replies is like, bullshit, I've seen it happen five times in the last year. You're not a computer. They have, that's a computer, the closest thing I can think of.

I remember everything. A computer. Yet people are like, I don't know. I don't think that's right. Okay, well, just show me the models. Nah, it doesn't feel right to me. It drives me crazy. In my pro football talk, what's his name?

Mike, uh, Gloria. Gloria is out there like, this is bullshit. Somebody checked these computers. I'm like Gloria, man. I feel like I'm an idiot, but I'm enough of an idiot to be like, I just trust the, anyways. The objective. Yeah. Isn't that what we all want?

um whatever happened to the eye test you know the will to win gut my gut my gut tells me grits yeah what do you got blake you can do it here with mike okay um i've got a couple dumb zone easter eggs from over the weekend because we had uh as jake likes to say we have shooters everywhere including on the call for uh pretty much all of the state championship games on victory plus over the weekend as ted emrick did a few games uh gregg tepper did a few uh then Of course, Ted Emmerich on the Compass Call, which I'll end with. But Clayton, let's play the triple play video first. Tepper, the analyst, like to work these into his graphics, turned into Victory

Plus, which is amazing. So go ahead and fire it. This was coming off of the week of our triple, triple play. Once again, as he stares a hole right through your soul on screen. For South Oak Cliff, you want to get the ball out quickly. Going through the sock, Golden Bears, when he gets to Richmond. They need the triple-triple play. Okay.

They need 200 yards rushing from Landon Williams, Callis. playing special teams. I love it. And they need no turn over. The inventor of the triple triple play. Yeah. Right. They also need tackling space.

Which really bit us in the ass last week. It sounded cool. And that's all it happened this week, Soroy, is just it was a, it was the same thing just the other way. The win you guys lost your high 90s for us before this week. Right. But you lost your triple play. Yeah. You lost all three of your triple plays and we lost, we won all three of our triple plays.

Yeah. So exactly the same. It's just a wash. from the week before. Yeah, I suppose. But I guess we're winning those other games around it, too. Yeah. That's kind of, it turns out that matters.

And we had three chances at our triple play. You had one. Right. So, oh, it sucks so bad. Jimmy Nelson joins us as well now. All right. As we're going through some. They got the reverb off?

Do they? Okay, good. We're going through. If we had a great Easter eggs. Dumb zone Easter eggs from over the weekend. There we go. Don't I miss Grady's singing? Oh, he's here all day.

He'll be back. Hell yeah. Ready. Okay, next video, again, TEPPER's, great insight on how I think Stephenville can win the game. It is time to check out Teper's takes, Greg. I know you're throwing blue steel at all of us here on the screen. What are your keys? For Stephenville, they've got to be Establish the Run guy. That's one of the things they got to do, you know, not establish the run.

Be Establish the Run. That's too easy. That could be doubted. And he even had it quoted, Establish the run. I love turning in graphics for bits and just waiting. Yeah. Well, they put it up there? Why did you want the whole, and put this in quotes?

Just the way I wrote it. That's probably what you want it. Yeah, put the quotes in there. And then final one, Ted worked this in. Again, this is for an audience of whoever's in this room and who listens to the show. Steve Berline has no idea what's going on, which is the greatest part, that he's kind of being mocked here. Sir, I don't know if you're around for this story, but at Kelman, Boys games, you'll know.

They'll have a carving station with prime rib and just exquisite meat. Well, on the Halloween weekend game, in between prime rib bites, Steve Burline popped a mini Snickers in, and it's all I've been thinking about. Like, is that to reset your palate? I don't quite understand. In between meat bites? Like the RU on top, prime rib, eat it, that's pretty good. I have more prime rib on my plate, but let me pop this fun-sized snickers.

You just saw him do this? And I couldn't believe it. He had to open it. You know? And you're eating your normal meal and then you watch him do this? Who eats a Snickers in the middle of the steak? I kind of go in order. You meet up your sides and then you get to your dessert.

And then he just carried on with the prime rib. Yeah. Incredible. So Ted worked this in for us. Steve, it's going to be four consecutive wins for this beat up Chargers team. You know, you think about the injuries up front. They've lost every offensive tackle imaginable, Justin Herbert with the broken left hand playing through it.

I mean, that and a four-game winning streak, it goes together kind of like steak and Snickers, and yet it's all coming together for the Chargers. Yeah, seven of their last. No recognition. Snickers and steak, that is a great. No, we're just where the cowboys are today. No. No.

Doesn't understand it. No. There's no way he could understand that. He's like, yeah, Ted, you know. He's like 5,000 references in his career. And I wonder, I know you've asked him, right, if anyone's ever cornered him and be like, well, what the hell was that? Yeah.

You know? Ted, I think he's flown close to the sun, but never all the way to him. So, Jimmy, oh, by the way, you're just learning this now. So Blake yesterday played Berline's comedy audio from the Super Bowl to Burline. He played us playing us playing. talking about him. I found it. Holy shit, really?

Did he just crack up the whole time at his own? He wanted to correct Jake at certain points about he was just trying to be funny bringing up race to the equation and he actually thought he destroyed. Did you play him the part

where Berline losing the room? Yes. All right, Jimmy Nelson, comedian, firefighter. Made about town. Good man. Was not here when he claimed he would be here. That's true.

Despite how many confirmation text do we have to get there? Many confirmation texts. Many. There was many today even. Yeah, Scott said he was texting with you earlier today. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, hey, man, make sure we're ready to go.

You got any bits you want to do? We were saying you might have been fighting a fire. I was like, no, I was texting. Yes. Yeah. That's what I was doing. He was actually doing nothing. I was putting leaf guards on, lost track of time,

and I should have called the experts over at Qualis. That's what I should have done. Boy, that's sort of a guy, though, who's a fireman himself. That's the problem with being a fireman. Right. You can't tell your wife I've got to hire somebody for this. Right. Let's check him with Trey Cam real quick.

Yeah, what do we got? Because you mentioned Qualis. We have a Qualis Cam. Trey is our elf today, and he's trying to put together the Cowboys Stadium. Oh, no. He's crestfallen there. He's trying to put together the Cowboys Stadium Lego set. I checked in on him before I walked in.

Moral low. Yeah, it's a little more challenging than the... His chest was out after the gingerbread house. We'll check back in with Tray in a little bit. But half the pieces are black and that floor is black. It's kind of got them separated. And like a woman who works in the building, who maybe her job is to keep things clean. She did like, was pushing the big trash can and paused and kind of.

I looked over there. He needs a headlamp. He does look like you need a little headlamp. We've probably never done, all right, he's doing bits now, so let's, so we had the oddball history guys in, thought, well, throughout today, we'll do some of our regular bits, we'll do some news, we'll do some viewer mail, and we'll do today in history. And these guys should be perfect to deal with that. So we should.

Game day men's health. presents on this day in history. Hey, Siroy, will you play Trinity Forest tomorrow at 10 a.m. for free, Andrew will buy your drinks all day? What does that mean? AP. Probably yes. Okay. 10 a.m.?

Yes. I don't know if he's already hit you up and just couldn't get a hold of you, but sometimes. Oh, somebody's hitting you up? Like when we used to work together and they'd be like, if they couldn't find one of us, call the other. Somebody's like, I need to get this info to Mike. Oh, okay. This is golf? This is golf.

Yeah, good friend of the show. Okay. Pretty Forrest, nice. Former home of the Byron Nelson. That is such a Soroy answer. Two years. Probably, yes. Probably.

I don't know. I got an important show to do tomorrow night. 8 o'clock. Cirque to Soroy show live on YouTube and Twitch. Those guys aren't taking the holidays off. I'll bet they are. Yeah, after tomorrow, we're definitely taking the rest of the year off. Absolutely.

I would guess we've never done a show on this day. No. Okay. So I won't even ask you about that. But that's why I wanted to do one today. Next year, it'll be epic when you go to the dumb zone folder. Okay, so do you remember this day in 1993, the Mavs lost their 20th straight game? Big day.

And then they won the next night, and then they lost their next 16 games after that. Yeah, I mean, that was around the time where I was getting SI, and they would rank the organizations in all four sports, and the Mavs were always bottom five. 1993, they finished the year 13 and 69. Nice. Ouch. Were the Browns below them periodically on that list?

Yes. And it would be like a hockey team I never heard of. Atlanta Thrashers. Then here comes Cuban. He'll never screw this thing up. Well, technically he didn't. Under his ownership, his majority ownership, they were pretty good team. Yeah.

Yeah, I guess that's true. Sad, Jake. Fuck. You should have seen him this morning. This old Greg Biffle thing. Dude, I go two hours, and these guys are like, do you remember Greg Biffel died? And I'm crushed again. You know?

No. NASCAR mid-legent. The truck series is just as important, often overlooked. They're out there racing just as hard. He was a truck guy. I like that you were able to tell us some other tale. like, oh, you were putting up gutters or something when it was really, perhaps, the Greg Biffle thing.

Nobody wants to show up a little late. I just needed a minute to myself. Just standing in the shower. This is the day in 2010 that Barack Obama signed a law allowing gays for the first time in history to serve openly in the military repealing the don't-ass,

don't-tell policy. Gay men. So we had a question earlier that you guys could answer. It was about, we were, somebody was talking about that they were selling a stash of gay porn from the 70s and 80s. I saw it. Okay. Yeah.

And Scott can't play. We were saying, or somebody was saying, could this mean there's some lady porn in there as well? I don't know. Like accidentally? Well, I mean, gays, ladies can be gay too. That's very true. Yeah. I think isn't that under...

But if you were to say gay porn. If you say gay porn, that's man-on-man. Yeah. Yeah. The way you like it. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Pure.

Beefcakes. So putting ladies in is kind of woke. Right? Yeah. Gross. Gay. I need, yeah. It's gay.

This is the day. Do you know who Bernard gets is? I do. I do. I do. Yeah. Bernie gets the subway. Is he the subway guy?

This is the oddball history guy. I figured one of them would know. Yeah, it's his partner's like, I don't know. I think he's in the Billy Joel's. We didn't start the fire song too. Yeah. I think you're right. I think you're, yeah.

He shot and wounded four kids on a Manhattan subway, claiming they were about to rob him. Oh, yeah. Like he knew. Preemptive. Like minority report. He was a pre-cog. He was doing the death wish.

Do you remember in death wish in the beginning before he gets the gun? His plan is just to roll around with a sock. full of quarters no i don't i've all those movies run together for me and i don't remember him not having the gun so he had a plan before that it would break it would break when he hit and so he was like i got to think of something else then he had a friend in arizona so he got a gun chappie was a big charles bronson guy that's what death wish is a surprise no one yeah charles bronson's big one so that would have to fit in your high tea movie the month idea right big time yeah anyone with charles bronson and on this day in 1996 brett hall became

the 24th player to score 500 goals. This was with the Blues. He joins his dad to become the only father-son combination to score 500 goals apiece. It's pretty cool. He came into Oakley one time when I worked at Oakley and the Galleria Mall. It was amazing.

Nice guy? Yeah, he was nice. That was a star. Yeah, he bought a bunch of stuff. I always thought he was a great guy. We got a few. We got him, Alfonso Soriano. one time vana white filmed a remote outside of our store but it wasn't really in front of it

they weren't showing off the oakley store brett hole i'm trying to find him hammered but i oh i got some oh yeah i remember though the parade you know we went to uh we went on many stars trips over the years were you ever on one with brett hole as the gm oh no no okay well after my or well before my time because we were there with bob gainy as the well i don't if we went on a trip, but Bob Ganey was the GM and he was the most stoic, stone-faced individual you'd ever, you're afraid to be near him. And then here comes.

You got Joe Neuendike, you had Doug Armstrong. He was kind of a real hard-ass, too. Like, if they lost, you couldn't whisper around Doug Armstrong. But Brett Hall was an ex-player and an ex-superstar. And so he didn't care at all if they won or lost. Like, because he got it. He understood. Like, it doesn't really make. There's 82 of these things.

and he also was unlike the other GMs he would ride the media bus to the game because the media bus left the latest like he didn't want to get there early and he would just yell at the guy to turn on classic rock he would get mad if classic rock was not playing like he loves the Pizza Hut jukebox you know

that tracks breadhole may he rest in peace He bites his lower lip and plays air guitar. Absolutely. I used to know Where the tree tops Listen and children

Listen to hear Slave bells in the snow Welcome back to the Dumb Zone sub-a-thon Probably don't have to tell you where to find us You're listening right now But you can go to dumbzone.com for information on gifting subscriptions with donating money to the North Texas Food Bank. If you simply hit subscribe on our YouTube channel.

Didn't you get a guy that was going to match some kind of donations? Yes. So at noon, I'll pull his email back up here so I can give the proper credit. At noon, we have a listener name Brian who said that he will match up to $5,000. Any donation to the North Texas Food Bank between noon and three. I was going to wait. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have mentioned it.

But if you're able to donate money in an hour and four minutes, it'll be worth times two. Okay. That's a pretty cool bit. So hold off on that. Yeah. And you can gift subs up there. Got a couple people that have done that today. Spread the word.

We think this thing's good. Sort of. Can I play you a couple quick clips from yesterday's broadcast as we fill time here real quick? Sure. We had, are we going? I guess we could go, huh? Yeah. There's a little bit early.

Yeah, let's just hop in then. What are we doing? I think we have a game show from now until 4.30. Because joining us is, uh, traffic. Is the man who does game shows, they're always, uh, short, succinct, easy to follow. There's a winner. There's a winner. Yeah.

No, no room for extra points or credit. Pay out. No trap doors. No. he is Kevin quote KT unquote Turner yeah KT fun tweets KT fun tweets hello everyone happy sub-a-thon I'm Kevin Turner live from the Haymaker Network Studios in Friscoe Texas The Haymaker Network Studios he was promoting this every

the one-star cowboy podcast which I listened to this morning at about 5 a.m. Fantastic analysis on last night's game or yesterday afternoon's game. But the one-star Cowboys podcast, they would always sign off with video soon, video soon. And finally, I think they have video. Yeah. Like 14 weeks into the season. You've been promoting that since week one.

And they're like, the haymaker sign up. You'll want to know about the haymaker. And like I thought it wasn't real and now it's real. Sorry. Oh, yeah, I'm glad I kind of half-pranked you with that. So for a game to exist and to team up, Dan and Jake, I thought I'd bring in from 971, the Eagle, 3 to 6 p.m. Also here live at the Haymaker Network Studios in Frisco, Texas.

It's Ben Rogers and Jeff Skinway. Whoa. Of the coffee nods. Of Ben and Skin? Hydroponic sound system. They're the two. Can we hear him? Hi, boys.

Hey. There they are. What's up, guys? What's going on? Hello, friends. Did you guys see that Trump had that Mavs lady up on stage the other day? The one that's like, I see. Wait, which Mavs lady?

There's only one. Sint is retired. Yes. Cint is not there anymore. Shout out to Gina Miller, who's now running communications with the Dallas Mavericks. Is that the Haymaker logo on your hat, Ben? Yes, it is, Dan. There's a little H in there.

Once you see it, you can't unsee it. But at first, you're not really sure what it is. Almost an optical illusion. No, it's cool, but it looks like some way. It reminds me of the Luca logo. Yeah, I like that. I've had a couple people say that, and I'm like, dig that. Love that.

Makes me sad about Luca, and that makes me think about Greg Biffel. Okay, that's good. Are you talking about his recent injury? Oh, no, don't you start. You're upset that he's going to miss the Christmas Day game? look everybody's a little bit touchy Dan in particular has really been having a tough time

getting it going after the death of Greg Biffle and the news I mean nothing to shake in my world since February 2nd like how do we have both of these things in the same calendar year you couldn't have you know Luca and Greg Biffel historically they won't believe it

yeah the loss of this culture why don't you get control of this Kevin Yeah, I thought you were running this. Jesus Christ, you turn on Family Feud. You see Steve Harvey just go chill to the side for 10 minutes. That's your show, you know. But, okay, let's get it going here.

I think we should start off with a very important intro to this. Twelve, twelve games of Christmas. Hell yeah. Twelve games at the surface does seem like a lot, and it really does. seem like this might be pushing the andre gerard interview but 12 games of christmas it'll be been in skin versus dan and jake uh i've prepared 12 games each team will take terms uh randomly selecting a game one through 12 but to learn all the rules and to figure all that out don't leave that to me i have hired the official referee of the 12 games of christmas

Hello, domestic and international viewers. I'm Dean Bladino from the NFL on Fox. And welcome to KT's 12 games of Christmas. As you all know, it's an honor and a privilege just to even be on the same hemisphere as Kevin Turner. And I'm personally, very, very honored to be the official referee of today's big showdown between Dan McDowell and Jake Kemp. versus Ben Rogers and Jeff Skinway. And because Blake Jones likes to complain about KT and his genius game shows,

I'm here to clean things up just like I did with the NFL catch rule. Thank you very much. Rule number one, KT is number one. Respect his presence and treat him like a well-behaved puppy. Rule number two, there are 12 games. Each team will alternate by selecting a remaining game 1 through 12. each game has its own subset of rules, simple rules created by a not-so-simple man, the genius, can't take.

Now let's get to the honorary coin toss. I've got my coin here. Okay, heads, that's George Washington's head, that's Benin's Skin, Tails, that's him crossing the Delaware. That's Dan and Jake. Without further ado, we'll toss the coin and we'll see who wins. All right, here we go. and it is heads ben and skin yeah one laton yeah k t back to you yeah wow very much dean let's go uh thank you dean uh we couldn't get uh the other guy what's the other guy

pierre my mara he's got a back thing it's very strange so d's able to do it for us rana uh ben and skin you will go first uh there are 12 games on the board make your pick then what What are the games? One through 12. Oh, we don't know what the games are. You don't know what the games are. Is there a way to keep track of the numbers that are selected, Kevin? I think the fewer, yeah, I'll do that.

Okay. The fewer questions, the better. One of the things that we have on our show when there's a game is it's an in-game audit by skin of KT and his rules. Yeah, very helpful. Yeah, very helpful. See, I'm wondering because I've never heard KT do a show without you guys. Right. So maybe it's you guys that are confusing this whole thing.

Not KT. Maybe if he would just do a show on his own, it would be like Steve Harvey. Wow. There's Dan McDowell admitting that he never watches KT's YouTube channel that never has me and Ben on it. You guys, you don't invent Ben and Skin on your YouTube channel? I don't like to bother him. Oh, shit. Let's go with the Tony Romo. All right. Game number nine. Good job, Kevin. I knew you weren't following the Cowboys.

We have an intro. that will trick your brain it's what's my age again slash who's older all right all right the classic game what's my age again slash who's older uh ben and skin will be playing first dan and jake you will have a chance to jump in and steal some points uh basically i'm going to give you guys uh two uh subjects here if you can tell me who's older you'll get the five points if you get it wrong no points but then for some extra points you can guess the age and then dan and jake can jump in on that so then skin who's older tom hanks or kevin costner how many points do you get on a steal we're really going to be up against the andre gerard interview we don't get going here uh okay who do you

think's older tom hanks or kevin costner i always say in a in a k t game show you got to play the man not the game yeah so there's going to be a reason he's asking so whoever you think is older is not going to be older because that's why he put it in there so who do you think is older well i feel pretty confident that tom hanks is older but i don't know for sure there's going to be like a month the difference yeah i look at it this way you got to go back in time so when tom hanks was on bosom buddies you're talking about about 1981 or so keep in mind the big chill came out in 1983 now that start kevin costner's wrist where he slit it that's the only thing you see of kevin costner and the big chill is a slit wrist that was a movie about the

60s generation going into adulthood well how old is that all that what's that how old bit is wrist look right it looked young it looked young okay young wrist. So I think Tom Hanks is older. All right. Do you, what do you think? Yeah. Okay. Kevin. Final answer, Tom Hanks. Incorrect. It's Kevin Koster. He's Damn it! So no points for Ben and Skin. So we get the Steel. You'll get a chance at the Steel. Yeah, we say Tom Hanks.

Big Chill, by the way. That movie sucks. Anybody ever see it? No. It's on all the lists. Yeah, it's like on the coming of it. Yeah. And I remember renting it in videotape form and we had rented the videotape and somebody was not kind they did not rewind

they didn't rewind so right where I started it was like oh okay and it was like 32 minutes in or whatever and it was a certain scene it was very recognizable I guess so I'm like all right well let's rewind it and then we're going to watch it and we're watching it and it sucks and it sucks and it sucks and we kind of get to that scene and we're like

oh I see what happened whoever rented this before just stopped it and took it out because they're like this sucks right i can't do another minute of it oh wow so the big chill uh my point is it sucks and and if you ever have to rent a video you'll see it's going to be stopped right where out of the end no one has ever seen past that sorry go ahead what are we doing now uh we can guess the age guessing an age of something the age of kevin costner who is older than tom hanks oh we have to guess his age now for for bonus points yeah well you're going to be going back and forth and we have to get it like exactly. See, this is where Kevin, this is where KT's game shows are like.

But it's a bonus point. 12. No? 16. It's just weird. It's weird to start eating out the creator of the game in the first quarter. Like, you're going to call in the second half. I'm going to say, I'm going to say Kevin Costler is 69 years old. I'm older, Ben and Skin. I think he's 71. What do you think? Uh, yeah, let's go 71. Lower. Back to the Damn it. 70. You got to get it to the month. Right.

70 and born in August. 70's correct. Five points for Dan and Jake. The Deliown has the lead. You get five points on the steel? Don't worry about it. Dan and Jake, your turn, 1312, except nine.

This is game two of the 12 games of Christmas. What game would you like? We'll keep it consistent and go six. All right. What's consistent about that? Well, it's the nine flipped, and we like 69. What's game six? God bless this production fucks.

It's awesome. This is the chain gang. This is just for Dan and Jake. Just for Dan and Jake. So there's no steal? No stealing here. The fuck? If you get it right, you'll get five points.

You just got to put these things in order. starting chronologically put these Dallas Cowboys Offensive Lyman in order by their retirement date Zach Martin Travis Frederick Tyron Smith

So it's a layup Just give them the points Zach Martin Travis Frederick Tyrant Smith when did they retire Put them in order It's like pick the Cowboys logo out of these NFL logos

I mean I think I can do it Dan But it's got to be Go ahead T Fred Zach Martin Tyrant Smith? That is correct. Five more points for the dumb zone.

Thank you. Because I thought maybe a late, like, didn't Phil Costa, like, retire a cowboy? I'd love to pick the Cowboys logo game. All right. You only have the Browns and the Cowboys up here. All right. Do we alternate the board, Kevin, or do we keep it? No, no, no.

It's going to go back to Ben and Skin. Again, Dumb Zone 10, Benin Skin, Zero. I didn't think that was tougher because Tyrant and Retirement. a month after Zach Martin did. Yeah, I had questions about that. Yeah, I thought that's what might trip someone up. That was a good explanation, Kevin. Then it's skinned.

Which game would you like? You go, I'm fucking this up. All right. Give us number two. Game number two. Hey, I thought you were on my side. Oh, what a legend. All right, for this game, Ben and Skin, you will be the ones playing.

Nothing needed from Dan and Jake here. You're going to need your phone, though. I will give you both a letter. You'll have about a minute to find the most famous person in your phone under that letter. If you're going to cold call them live on the stream right now, so get to speaker phone mode out. If they answer the phone, you get five points. If they don't answer the phone, you have to. to text them without any context at all. I thought you were on my side. If they respond by the time

Andre Gerard shows up, you'll get three points. If they call you back before this stream ends today, you will get one point for that. Okay, by noon would be the time. So if they, if they answer, we get five. Now this is also the honor system because and it's very subjective. Who's the most famous per, like you could also be looking at this as well, how about the most famous person that will pick up my call right there's a selection bias here also what is famous i like this dan keep going yeah i think i think we all understand for the good of of entertaining the audience that you would just try to get the most famous person you have rather than doing something that would win this game that we haven't put any stakes on i'm k t so there's a chance for me and ben to double our pleasure here

because if we both score then we yeah you can tie the game 20 25 so the letter for contestant one ben is g skin the letter for you is p as in pickens g p i'll just call picking they'll give you guys about 45 seconds to a minute to go through that letter in your contacts does it matter if it's a first or a last name whatever it shows up underneath the contacts when you go through there on your phone how famous is brian purdy um dan do you know brian perth i absolutely do know enough Ooh, I can tell you This would be fun because Dan and I We're not up on this, right?

Can we just fill time here and tell you what ours would be? Yeah, absolutely. What is this? It's P? We'll go with P. I think right now going to be a toss-up between Hunter Pence and Nina Pham. That's fantastic. The Ebola queen.

I got William Pace on here, too. William Pace is good as is Rich Phillips. George Dunham. Where you had on G's, Ben? Rico Gala. There's George Dunham. Oh, Gathers. Oh, Kent Garrison.

Jay Glazer. There's no way that's a real number. How about a gold medal winner? Oh, you're on G now? I thought we were still doing. Charlie Patterson would have been a good one for sure. Oh, Rusty Greer. Joey Gallo.

Oh, you got to call Gallo. Chuck Greenberg. Bill Garon. Travis Gaffer. Oh, Randy Gregory. Yeah, man, call Randy Gregory. Oh, my God. I've never called.

them i don't think ever i mean that's fun i can call andre gerard to see what time is interview dude please do it do it do it cow are you going to take a shot at your own guest and say he's not the most famous oh i like this a guy you could get anytime are you saying it's not the most famous or do we agree how famous is cow gipson droid's more famous yeah than rico gathers right i think so But you guys are the guest guys. You guys know famous people. Ben Gold. From the video who broke the Donkey Kong record.

Yeah, yeah. I'll let, I'll let Dan select mine. Gordo. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there you go. All right, Dan. He won't answer. Whose skin got on the piece?

Okay, so Dan, you select. Large professor. Oh, large pro. Christopps Porzingis. Chandler Parsons. Or Drew Pearson. You select, Dan. I bet Drew Pearson might pick up.

Do we do it by who will pick up? It's supposed to be the most famous. You do you think is the most famous? Is Drew Pearson more famous than Percengis? Probably. You think so? Don't worry too much about that. Let's just have a little fun.

I'm just trying to think, is he legit more famous? Oh, I got Perry Jones the 3rd, if you guys want to do something. some local basketball no i got tom grieve he'll answer dude rusty greer called grieve what do we call tom grieve sure try tom grieve i think you should also like check in the other thing is like who says like who's also like not going to get like heated about it that you're calling them out of god and then you might have to text them i thought you were on my side out of nowhere like you've that's done this is kurt warner before i guarantee you tom grieve doesn't have my number saved so there's no way I think he likes talking baseball with you

all right one of y'all hit send on a phone call please I just want you to say who's the most famous yeah y'all pick it's your seven rod Andre gerard dude gerard all right that would be this is kind of funny all right there's a chance it's not the right number obviously I'm gonna go ahead and give it a call so uh get it on speaker oh I have John Greece Uncle Rico five points oh wow he might pick it hello he might pick it hello

What was he in recently? It was good. White Lus. Hello. Hello. Is this Andre Gerard? This is Andre. Hey, how you doing, man?

This is Ben Rogers from the Ben and Skin Show. How are you doing, Ben? I'm good, man. What time are you on the Dumb Zone today? We're outside right now. Just trying to find Park and we'll run up. What time is your show? We're just doing it playing a game show with them right now.

It's called I thought you were on my side. and I had to my letter was G I had to call the most famous person with the letter G and if they answered I got points and so you just did me a huge favor yeah and sorry Andre sounds like they're pushing out on the sub-a-thon it's going to be over at noon now so I think your deal got canceled I will be in there in just a second as soon as we get this parking second we're standing in front of building right now all right awesome hey thank you man have a good time on the show Blake can you go handle the parking thing with on Yeah, yeah.

Actually, slow him down a little bit. Great job, dude. Don't really need him in here in five minutes. We're hoping for him at noon. Game three of 12. That's okay. We got plenty of time. He's scheduled for noon.

I think it's easy to see. I'm the one trying to move it along. All right. I'm going to call Parsons, Chandler Parsons, and I'm going to see if Michelle Beatle answers. Hang on a second. Oh, my God, dude. Let me also say, will you have Henry go pick up the sandwiches?

Yeah, it's funny. We were ordering lunch, and this is how it was for me whenever I was still drinking, is like, I couldn't go anywhere without people being like, come on, bro, have a beer. They expected it from me. And so I said to Dan, why do we have to have pot belly for lunch? And he said, it's just an expectation people have of me. Oh, no, Skin's got a text. I thought you were on my side. To Chandler Parsons. Right. We'll find out if Chandler does text back to Skin, he will get three points. So we'll see if those points will happen later.

Let's move on to the fourth game of 12. What did they take off the board? Take your selection. 6, 9. What else is off? 2.6 and 9 are off the board. Okay, I'll take 12. All right.

Let's go to game number 12. We must stop the terror. I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now watch this drive. All right. The fourth of 12 games is named that president. Oh, no.

Both teams will play in this game. Dan and Jake, you will go first. Choose which president you want to identify. President A or President B? B. All right. Here's President B. That would be.

Jimmy Carter. That's President. That's, well, that's normal size, Jimmy Carter. shrink i get it before he yeah yes he was hit with the biden ray gun he was strunk many years later hey uh peanut farmer and y'all show is way too political daughter amy five points for uh dan and jake the 15 for the dumb zone five for benning skin some points in waiting if if we hear back from channel or parsons uh let's go to the other president for ben in skin. Identify this president.

I can't remember. There's one that he always says looks like Alec Baldwin. I think it's Garfield. That's Garfield. That's incorrect. It's Millard Fillmore. That looks exactly like Alec Baldwin. He really does. Not enough people talk about it. Good looking guy.

Might shoot you on the set. He is Alec Baldwin. Right. Jimmy Carter was so easy. That's also a lot. really high quality photo what year was philmore president right so he was the 11th president so he was uh probably like 1830s you know right around there i think he was 18 30 they had picked the cowboys logo and yeah is this jimmy carter or not it's all about what game you pick it really is you got to play the guy and you're up the guy dumb zone 15 bin and skin five let's go

uh to the next game this will be the fifth game out of 12 which number would you like been in skin let's go with uh number one oh the Seption. Yep. Here we go. Oh, yeah. It's the price is what the price is what. Bitch.

All right. Impressive. The price is what. The price is what works like this. Basically, each team is going to get a chance to play here. If you have something to write down your answer, that's fine. If not, it doesn't really matter. But here is the clue.

Beninskin, you will go first. You also want to be closest to the price without going over. Price is right rules. In the movie Home Alone, which came out in 1990, there's a scene where 8-year-old Kevin McAllister goes shopping for some necessities. He gets some milk, corn's juice, bread, a TV dinner, mac and cheese, detergent, saran wrap, dryer sheets, toilet paper, and some toy soldiers. The actual retail price in that movie was $19.53.

cents. So if in 1990, that hall cost $19.53. With inflation, how much would that trip to the grocery store cost now? The closest without going over will win. The price is what? I was so uncomfortable with the way you said, Hall cost. It sounded like he said the Holocaust. I was like, oh, my God, what is happening? He absolutely said the Holocaust. So how much is $19.53 worth of stuff today? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so we got to write it down on paper we don't have. Or you can talk it out. It's fine. Well, wait. If we talk it out, then they know what our answer is.

Yeah, but it's your game and you're going first. Oh, okay. Is there a tariff on Armymen? Probably. Soldiers. Were those made in China? Well, your parents. Okay, so I think, and so we also got to put the number in a place where there

not just going to take one penny yeah right we got to like really make it difficult on these animals i think i think if we went 48-ish dollars that's about more than double but i'm fine going double you want to go 38 and put it back in their court yes put it on their court in all right uh we're going to go $39 and 26 cents Kevin $39 and 26 cents Dan and Jake. The Dumb Zone will go with one penny. One penny. Actual retail price in 2025.

$53.95 cents. It's so much worse than I thought. Detergent is expensive now. I didn't think that's almost triple, though. I thought, I was like, damn, they might have gone over a little at 38. Dog, you can't buy a bagel egg sandwich anywhere for less than $20. We are fucked because of your president. What?

Yeah. Well, they're trying to clean up the mess from the last guy. I know. We're trying to train everything. We have to make everything super expensive before we can make it cheaper again. Yeah, you don't understand how things work. Yeah. Then you get credit for being the one who fixed it.

What we've seen with history is price has always come down. Right. What number was that one? That was one. Okay. All right. Dumb Zone 15. By the way, man who hosts a,

do you do in like an S&L podcast? I do. The after party, yes. So it sounds like Dan just looked up KT's YouTube channel. No, no, no. I know he's into S&L because I was a big part of an S&L draft one year. Not this year. When I had a...

I was there this year. Both ears. Had a GM. Bowen-Yang, how are you taking this? Yeah, no, it was a... Are you upset at all those great Bowen-Yang bits we won't get to see anymore? No, but I do think on a serious note, I do think it says something about when everyone is very... Let's not joking.

Everyone loves him. About Bowen-Yang. Yeah, no, everyone loves him. So you get to say your goodbye if you've earned it. If people don't really like you that much, they don't let you really say goodbye. Bad bit, though, is Michael Chey trying to do a prank on the joke swap. Guys, Andre Gerard is waiting. We have like seven games to go.

15 for the Dumb Zone. 10 forbidden skin let's go to the next game which number would you guys like four is it us no it's theirs oh is it oh is it this is dan and jakes all right four number four all right it's a simple game that will trick your brain it's what's my age again you could double up very familiar with the rules yeah this is the easy one uh dan and jake for five points who's older joe burrow or texas motor speedway that's amazing man and you know it's within a month

no or is it it's i'm going to say texas motor speedway yeah that's what i gotta be i feel like i was going there when i was 10 and i'm 40 he's not 30 give us tms yeah a case of tms

tms final answer yeah is correct Thanks. Texas Motor Speedway. Yes, it's correct. Five points for the dollar. All right.

Nice. Takes them up to 20. Now, guys, for the extra five points. How old is Texas Motor Speedway? I'm going to say that it was built in 1998. So, Kevin, would you like to do some math there or what's your next move? That would be 27? No, sorry.

My bad. Okay. I'm going to say it's. I didn't think it's 20 28 higher been in skin so it's older than that now we're doing the don't say don't you think uh well hold on we just you really got to think oh yeah i mean because burrow's going to be the low so and you want to leave some space here you don't want to have just one i think we just say really all right what do you think i'll defer to you i killed us uncle uh i think 31, okay? Kevin, 31. Lower. Dan and Jake. There's only two to choose from, right? This is

the thing. This is the number thing that I don't like about KT games. Now we're just going to guess numbers. One of the two under that. No, go into the recesses of your brain and try to think, was it 29 or 30 years ago, specifically. Let me think. Well, 30 years ago, I remember that's when we had that colder than usual winter. Yep. And that's when, oh, yeah. Yeah, so 30. Lower than it's good. Good job, dude. Say the number.

We're going to do something weird and say 30. Now we'll say 29. 29, there you go. Five points for Benin Skin. So it's 20 for the dumb zone. 15 to Benin Skin. It's officially halftime, which if I'm looking at my watcher, 1126, that's not bad. Loser of this game has to go to Billings.

Okay, over two. Let's go with a halftime pre-recorded bit. I'm happy with that. Yeah. We're going to do that so we can get some sandwiches. Good tidings for Christmas and a happy new year. Let's say you get wrapped up in some bad tidings and you get hit by a bus or tree falls on you. Car accident.

For all things bad tidings on the personal injury front, call 214 or 817 and then mash that three. Skin and bin, no. No. You're going to deal with a partner. Do they know? I don't know if they understand anything about Frankl and Frankel. You guys know who they are? Do you know about their extensive experience?

Have you ever heard of them? Do you know when you call Franklin? Do you know when you call Franklin and Frankel? You're not going to talk to just like some idiot like KT. They're Cizek. No. You're going to talk to like either Ben or skin. You're going to talk to a partner. Yep.

that's the whole thing. Gene is sitting out in Ben's car right now. Just waiting for you to get in an accident so he can handle it with his experience. Call the Frankles. I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth.

You can't handle the truth. That's a little clip from one of their recent cases. Yeah. Right there. And you know what? You get a hold of the Frankles? They take care of your issue. Yeah.

That's right, man. That's right. all right who's up hey claire did you just get rear-ended by that truck and it wasn't your fault i did cornelius falcon what should i do pick up your phone and start pressing threes you ungrateful monster frankle and frankle thanks to frankle and frankle for sponsoring this game show today hosted by k t rule number one treat k t well back to k t thank you very much your score is dumb zone 20 been in skin 15 because we are playing the 12 games of christmas 12 12 games 12 games of christmas

it's good stuff man i'm kevin ben in skin here live at the haymaker network studios in frisco texas it is the seventh game of 12 been and skin the numbers left on the board are 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, and 11. Let's go 3. Hill Earnhardt? Here is. Chain game. Chain me, baby,

chain game. Any word on Chandler Parsons? Is he texted back? That's no. All right. Still no points on that. The chain game, this will be just for Benin's skin. Put these in order for five points, and you can tie the game here.

Starting chronologically, put these Texas Raiders free agent signings in order. Jacob de Grom, Corey Seeger, Marcus Simeon. When you say chronologically, reverse chronologically? No. It is him. It's his, all of this is his fault. I knew it. It took us one.

It took us half a segment to figure it out. It's skin. His skin. Yeah. He's the problem. I'm doing Clinton, Nepal. What is his mean? I did not have sex with that KT.

Hey, that fans, what's your definition of is? Marcus, Semy, Corey Seeger, Jacob de Grom. This is a little harder than I thought it's going to be. DeGrom is last. It's just whether or not Seeger or Simeon, because they were within like a month of one another. Right, right. It's very Zach Martin, Tyron Smith in KT's world. Oh, great callback.

Thanks. That's why I'm number one. Dude, yeah, it's a coin flip. I'm trying to go back. I mean, obviously, you would have been more excited about Seeger. So, like, that's a bigger deal. Mm-hmm. I remember not remembering.

But was it, was it like they got Simeon? You're like, oh, okay. And then they got Seeger. Oh, damn. Or was it like, Seeger and Simeon? So, like, do you? But how much space was in between that reaction that you had? I think it was like a day.

Okay. Should we go to a pre-recorded bit? And then we'll. Or was it the same day? Can we play the Beatles? I feel confident. I feel confident that we got Simeon first and what that's fucking nice. And then we got Seeger went, oh shit.

Yeah. We're going to make the playoffs once, but we're going to win the World Series with them together. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to go, let me ask, can the Dumbzone steal? No. We will go. Simeon Seeger de Grom, Kevin.

Correct. Do we have a tie game. Oh, God. It's heating up. You bet your ass it is. So we're going. What is Gerard doing right now? Up next,

uh, exhibiting patience. Up next, we're going to go Cordell Stewart number 10. All right. Here we go. A new game. Where's 12 different ones? Well, not really, but. Sort of.

Yeah. Okay. Time warp. It's the, uh, it's the random selection that makes it fun. Uh, this game is for both teams to play, though. Dan and Jake, you will go first. This is essentially a higher, lower game with both teams alternating back and forth. We're going to need the correct date, though, by month, day, and year.

Oh, shit, let's go. So if I say higher, that's going to be more recent. If I say lower, that's further back in the past. Dan and Jake, you'll go first. Tell me the day, month, and year, when Harambe, the male western lowland gorilla was shot and killed at the Cincinnati Zoo. It was, I know the year. but I don't feel like I should have to just give that away because now they're going to know the year.

I'm going to say that it was around March 1st, 2016. Higher, been in skin. Higher means more recent? Yes. I think it was March 1st of 2017. All right, that's good. Lower. Yeah, I think you got the number right or the year,

but I think it was around the size. summertime because we had Carly Patterson in soon after that to talk about the Olympics. Yes, and I can tell you for sure when I know it wasn't past, but I have that info, and I'm not going to give it to them. Yeah, but we're going to have to. We're tracking. We're going to go with July 4th, 2016. Lower. Lower means earlier in time?

Yes. And what did they say? July between March and July. Okay. I think it was May 25th of 2016. All right. Higher. So that means more recent.

Mm-hmm. All right. So it's between May 25th. This is the reason your game shows suck. If I'm to say the reason your game shows aren't good. Okay. So it's between. It's the listening to somebody on the radio just giving a different number.

And then you do that 40 times in a row. Shut it, don't. May 25th to July 4th. We're going to go July 12th, 2016. June 12th, excuse me, June 12th, 2016. No, he said July. He said it. June 12th, we'll allow it.

Lower. Okay, Kevin, do we have to keep saying 2016? No. So what are the two days? And to answer your question is because I have the integrity to take a stand and to do something that's right, instead of just cowering between, you know, and just saying, oh, yes, please take me back. radio station that fired me last week. That's fair.

It was, yeah. So between, that was, hey, after four days and not having a job, you're like, ah, shit. May 25th to June 12th now. We've narrowed down. You guys wait until you see that Washington post on to call on, KT. You're going to be jealous. Just give them the points.

I want to give them the points and not keep guessing days another 20 days. Okay, we'll take the points. Yeah, we did it. What was the day, KT? May 28th, 26th. That's what I was going to say. freaking close god i guessed a date 10 years in the past within three days and didn't get the points yeah

that's amazing yeah i like all these other uh it's fine i like all these other uh game shows that don't have you know like specific answers to them a lot of times there are integers just saying you don't go back and forth but 20 guesses to get to one day that is not good listening please pick five seven eight or eleven all right five your game show is fucking kicking ass dude Benin skin 25 dumb zone 20 this is the ninth game of 12 and it's game number 5

It's a simple game that will trick your brain It's what's my age again slash who's older This one's just years Again again down to the minute What's the score KT 25 minutes skin Dumb zone 20

Sweet Benin skin here we go Who's older Jim to answer Chris Collinsworth Okay immediately you think Jim Nance is older but you play the man you play KT unless this is a crazy Ivan

yeah because he knew that you would pick the Costner one first and then he knew TMS second so now he's like I've said classic stric sand effect yeah yeah I would say Paulsworth is younger

but maybe that's the maybe this is his crazy Ivan well here's he just likes his girls a little younger yeah they like him so Nance took took over for Musburger in the late 80s, actually at the final four, and Nance was the young up-and-comer. Collinsworth was in his prime in the early 80s, so they're very, very similar in age.

But I think he's doing what you're doing. I think it's a reverse cowgirl, Ivan. Okay. And I think Jim Nance is older. Okay. And so you're playing the man, not the guy. I'm playing. Just what's the answer.

I'm playing the man. I'm playing the man. All right. I'm back to Skin is the one who makes these bad, not KT. they're going so it's i think it's nance so nance is older exactly as exactly as it looks or they were born on the same day all right we're going to go with nance that's incorrect it is chris collinsworth what's the age of chris collinsworth not 70 no no i'm saying not 70 but if you were in the nfl in 1980 and you were let's say 25 years of

old, 28. How old are you now? 80, though? Was he cooked? I don't know that he was cooking in 80. No, I mean, I'm saying if you, for that, you would be over 70, though, right? Because you'd be born in like 55. Boy, I kind of see that, though. Maybe he is 70. Give him an answer.

All right, 72. That's way too old. Lower. Ben and skin. 62. Higher. There we go. 67.

Suck on that. Eight more guesses. That's it. Lower, but it's skin. Oh, I guess that wrong, huh? That's okay. Go forward to you on it. I think he's 66 years old.

All right. We think he's 66. That's correct. Chris Collinsworth 66. And Nance? Three months older than Jim Nance. See, that's the, yeah, 63 months. So they're both the same age.

He's going to show up with one of these where people were born on the same day, the same hospital. There's controversy about which one of them was even born first. Right. or no actually he was born on the East Coast his birthday leap year and every time there's a KT game show

it ends up being an attack on KT he's so excited early on all this enthusiasm production value and then by the end he's so miserable that he just wants it to end he looks happy look at him he looks happy production value is great

the production value is fantastic unbelievable all right Matt Sizzick I didn't do that he didn't even created it With three games left, give me Roy, eight ball, eight. Nice. Number eight.

Oh, yeah. It's the price is worth. The price is what. Bitch. Each team will get to play here. Dan and Jake, you'll go first. You want to be closest without going over, all right? Price is right rules.

But I found this, and I'm going to have a little bit of a graphic for you guys that you can see here. and tell me how much you think this is. Close us without going over. That'll be hundreds of vintage gay VHS tape. Craig's listing. Yeah, it says, Huntage of vintage gay VHS tapes. It's for sale.

In Tulsa. A very extensive VHS gay porn collection. Tapes are still in original boxes from 70s, 80s, 90s, and some in the 2000s. interested let's make a deal serious offers only will i make a manifest i believe that's what say i will make a manifest as in like you will get a dossier of the tapes right okay what you're buying i thought like having a gay porn it's a manifest like a festival of men okay yeah manifest a festival of man yeah yeah yeah shoddy is selling me will i make a manifest i will i will

it might it might be supposed to say man fist yeah yeah that makes a very much that makes So it's 100, we don't, we just know it's hundreds, it's from the 2000, or from the 70s. And I know based on normal porn, um, are yes, can KT? Can gay, is that mean to say normal porn and then gay porn? Yeah, I didn't even know that's what you meant. I think of as porn, but you remember when that place was closing. Yeah. I had a mom and pop shop near my house closing many years ago when I lived over, uh, off Northwest

Highway and Aidelia, where they, the back room was going, they were going out of business. So the back room, everything was a quarter. And I got a bud like box and just filled it up with videotapes and went in there and for, like, for $10, I had a whole, a ton, you know. But how useful is that info? This guy is telling me, these are vintage, but these are classics, though. Right. But what is he going to, it's hundreds. I would say you can't get more than a dollar for each one.

I'm going to say $100. Just a flat hundred. We'll just start there. $100 for all this gay porn. We have to do the higher or lower and guess to the exact. Just play along, dude. We're still making good time. It'll be closest without going over here.

Benin skin. What is your wager? Okay. So I have a question for you, Kevin. Does gay imply strictly man action, or do we have any lesbian porn making? greatly affect the value. I think it's, I think it applies man. Yeah, it's really not, not for me to say.

I mean, the post is. No, but he makes an interesting question, though, that in the world of porn, no one ever means women when they say gay. You say a lesbian. You can't be like, oh, I'm into gay porn. Oh, yeah. So it's probably. When I'm looking for strictly man, I type in gay.

But strictly man, might be more, might cost more. That's, yeah. You type in, right. You type in gay business. Yeah, yeah, because that's my specific thing. Gay businessman teaches lesson. Isn't that your? It's, uh, do you know the Tulsa part?

Is this old porn originating in Tulsa or is it a man in Tulsa? I think you have to assume it's Oklahoma porn, yeah. No matter what, they overshot. I say $1. It's not going to be, right? What do you mean overshot? Right. Is that proper terminology?

We're not keeping, we're not going to go back and forth, right? We either go. Yeah, yeah. Whoever's close is that going over. Yeah, I say $1. There's no way it's $100. We're going to win. But are these collectibles?

Vintage. Do you guys remember when, Dan, do you remember when Ben was Porn Santa at Susquehanna? No, I don't know what that means. Okay, he must have gotten some of it. All right, we'll say, you want to say a dollar? I think, I mean, it's, keep in mind, Jake pointed out, it's in Tulsa. So this is the Tulsa marketplace. What is the toll?

You got to be within? You got to go 1990 home alone prices up there. They're still. Yeah. You got to go get them in Tulsa. Put them in your car in Tulsa. Would it be a terrible play to guess $98? Yes.

Okay. We'll say $1. Kevin. Actual retail price for hundreds of vintage gay VHS tapes in Tulsa. $1,234. Dumb zone gets the points. The guy's not making the listing because this is chump change here. He's making the listing because he's sitting on.

Just the gold mine of gay porn. You know what this was? This was classic men. He doesn't want anybody to know that he knows the price of thousands of game. How much could it even be? Who knows? Maybe they have to pay you.

All right. So it is Beninskin 30. Dumb zone 25. We have two games of Christmas remaining. That's 7 and 11. Ben and Skin, you're up. How do you do? his POV in a gay porn.

Oh, yeah. You know, which one? Oh, which one you want to go back? You can't say just mail, mail. You got to... Because my POV's the wall. It's just a shot of a camera that keeps bouncing into the Congress.

That's me. It's my head. I don't recognize this headboard. All right. What's left, Kevin? 7 and 11. 7. court.

All right. Here you go. The time war. Let's do the time of again. Ben, skin, you will go first. You'll get to guess. Dan's going to love this game. We just need the year on this one.

What year did Fergie piss her pants on stage during a black eyed peas concert? So what are the rules on this game? What happens? Don't do it. We just guess the year and we get points or we don't. Is that what you're saying with yours? Just the year. Okay.

when were they a big deal i feel like it's fun it's just not fun for the audience they're going jesus give this guy a break i'm trying to understand they can't steal right no no we're going back and forth oh that's why that's one bit of context here they were a band that was big at a time where you could write a song and get it made where the chorus was just let's get retarded so you know that that was not in the less but they aren't pure artists because they sold out very quickly the second the NBA is like can you just change the lyrics to let's get it started. Sure.

And they're like, yes, sir, Mr. MBA. I always look at this stuff is when were we talking about it. So I'm, and since we're going to go back and forth, I think we start with 2017 because they're going to get their guess and you see what I'm saying. Okay. So we were probably talking about it on the fan. That's what I was saying. So 2013 to 2019 somewhere in there.

I think that's accurate. Okay. So 2017? Yeah. Lower. Lower. Let's go to Dan and Jake. by lower you mean further back in time yeah for sure um you want to give a number dan because i'm

with you it's definitely no you're better apt to do this one okay 2012 lower been and skin oh oh first time at the fan can be specific so wait so joined here by the radio cockroaches been and skin whatever station gets blown up. Kevin, did he say 20, what? 2012 and it's earlier. Okay. See, Fergie, she wasn't with him at first.

Right. I think we should put it on them and say 2009. Okay. 2009, lower. Dan and Jake. What? 2007. Lower.

Then it's good. So you have to play their game. They're doing the guessing three. They're guessing three numbers to put it on us. I get it. See, their little strat. You got to, you got to go short for strategy. I think we just are going down.

I'm going to pass out because we're just guessing numbers. I think we go 2006. All right, 2006. Lower. 2003. Higher. I abstain. Okay.

So five or four? 2005. It's got to be five. Got to be five. 2005, Kevin. That's correct. That's correct. Yes.

Got the points. I could have just given. him the points at the beginning of the game, so I didn't have to do that back and forth. You're eating, dude. Your mom? All right, we'll take the last one on the board, Kevin, heading into a, what's the count?

All right, it's a 35 for the bin-in-skinned, 25 for the dumb zone here. Can I guess the last, you let Jake guess all the last numbers. I want to pick this one. All right. 11. All right.

Hey, yes. I thought you were on my side. what's the score 35 to 25 shout out to Steve shackleford we're going to need dan and jake's cell phones here i hope we get g so i can call andre gerard oh right dan your letter will be d jake your letter will be w try to find the most famous person in your phone d is what i'm all about speaker phone if they answer five points if they don't answer you have to text them i thought you're on my side if they respond to that you can get three points. Ooh, Dad.

Been a while since I've talked to him. Dad. I don't know who that would be. Right. Well, it's one of a few. All right, I can give you a rundown of my possibilities here. Is your real dad still alive, Dan? Hey, don't bring the room down.

Jesus Christ, man. This is something I don't know much about. Well, he doesn't either. I got Jason Whitten. oh he's always quick to respond you should go there answer jason walsh yes call walsh do that paul wall oh do that dude okay i'm gonna call paul wall oh my god that's badass tell him you want to grill okay for five points if you guys get double answers here you tied the game heading into the

to the last to the extra game if Paul Wall answers you should make a huge donation to charity I was thinking that are you you do it on speaker homie he was just making fun that's what's up that's a bummer now you got to text Paul

wall I thought you were on my side the people's champ no less hey Paul thought you were on my son oh okay just just I thought you were on my side yeah yeah yeah no Hey, yeah, just I thought you were on my side. Is there a question mark? No, no, no question mark.

Yeah, it's declarative. Okay, well, yeah, you can now see here on the camera and says Paul Wall. That would have been great, too. He would have been, he would have been fun. What do you got, Dan? I'm rolling through here. I have. Dino de Laurentis.

Hold on, I'm down to the D.Us. Are any of the pedophile baseball players, you know? Name D. Del Hall. I don't think so. So I got Ken Daly, former writer for the Dallas Morning News. Yeah. John Daniels, unless this is just his email, sometimes that list, you know.

Call his email. Do I have John Daniels? No, I have John Daniels. Brian Demeris. Mm-hmm. Mike Ducey. Who, oddly enough, despite us being in this building, I don't think you can call. Well, I could call him.

I would give you 10 points if he walked in. And then is this only last name? It's however it's in your phone. Whatever's under D in your phone. Because in my phone it popped up. Yeah. Deion. Doug E fresh.

Oh. Who? There's no way. That's, come on. Yeah, do that one. 85 phones ago, but you've got to try it. There's no way he would, well, he obviously wouldn't pick up. No offense to John Daniels or Ducey, but Dion's the most famous.

of anybody you've named. Dan used to have... What do you say when he answered? Hello? I want to know. A phone is ringing. No, but Dan does have the history with Dion where they used to... No, I have a text thread here.

They used to text. Yeah, he would end with... Okay, call him. He would end with all caps, truth. Every text. Like, instead of signing his name, he just signs a text, truth. Chip on the shoulder guy, though, after you have to text him, I thought you were on my side. Like, for some reason, he texted me in December of 2012, saying,

let's do some radio soon, my man. And then I told him, hey, we're on vacation right now. We'd love to do it after Christmas. Hope you have a great holiday. He says, cool, K-O-O-L. And then truth, all caps. You guys know, D.O-L. He's Andre Scharad's boss.

Yeah. So, all right. He was pitching you on the truth's social concept. Yeah. Way back. That was his pivot after the school. Yeah, barely. Oh.

I was on. Yeah, I'm a speaker. Yeah. Come on, Dion, pick up. No way. Hello? He doesn't pick up any of it. I heard Trump answers.

How come I can't hear it? Oh, well. There's the speaker come out. That's the. And your phone sucks. That'd be toothing. There's no chance to still his numbers, like Jake said. I'm sorry.

The person you were trying to reach has a voicemail box that has not been set up yet. That makes sense. Ouch. All right. Well, I'll still text the thing. That's a tough way for this to end. Yeah. I thought you were on my side.

Well, yeah, there you go. The score is 35 for Benin's skin, 25 for the dumb zone. But we do have this. If Paul Wall calls back, okay, what do we got? Well, yeah, if Paul Wall calls back, you get a point. Yeah. Not a matter. But this is what we have to end it.

Oh, that's a heater. Damn. It's the fire showdown. All right. So the way this is going to work, I'm just going to go ahead and tell you, each team's going to select one guy on the other team to serve as the contestant, right? So two of you end up kind of being blocked out here. So Ben and Skin, which one do you want to play?

Dan and Jake, and Dan and Jake, which one do you want to play? Ben or Skin? I pick Ben because it'll go quicker. Ben. I pick Dan because he's the most apathetic. Okay. All right. Ben versus Dan.

This one, again, very simple. You have a choice here. Dumbs on has 25 points, Ben, it's going to us 35 points. You can choose to wager none of your points. You can choose to wager half of your points. Or you can choose to wager all of your points. And you have to do it before you know what the thing is.

Dan is all in. All in. We need it. Risk takers. The guys who triple play the Cowboys, all three of them. So that would take them to 50 Ben. So just bet 16 so you don't lose. Pussy.

All in, none, or half? Grow a pair. This is for a great cause. We're all in. We're going to all in. We're going to bet 34, guys. All right. It's not really a great cause.

So both things are all in. The team who is closest to going, closest without going over, we'll get the points here, okay? Closest without going over. Again, skin and Jake are not allowed to play this one. It's Ben versus Dan. What was the Texas Rangers team batting average in 2025? Who goes first?

You got to write it down on the paper KT. We got to write down. Did KT say that? I can give you a piece of paper. All right. I can, I'll do it. Yep, I got it. Yeah, all right.

All right. We'll see what. I think this is high. I think I'm guessing high. This is a good thing you did that Rangers podcast this year. I know. I'm going to type it in. KT gave you a pen that doesn't work.

God, that's perfect. Oh, is KT actually next to you? I thought he was away in some studio I can show skin so he sees it Oh god, that's a great guess Do you think this is a good guess If they're allowed to table talk? He's not allowed to play

You just said, you just did it I just gave him confirmation That I appreciated his work But It's too high, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no It's just too high I did it for comedy

That's okay If you both went too high, we'll do it again Well, I know it's too high but I'll go ahead and show you I just thought that'd be the funniest thing to put right but it's uh okay okay is definitely too high yeah I like what you went with Ben

269 okay Ben what did you say 249 you both have overbid oh my God that's why they were so fun to watch re-rack what was the Texas Rangers team batting average in 2025 all right there's something going on with those drums i really like yeah that's Steve shackleford for

for 10 sounding um you should have point 0.001 rangers team batting average in 2025 dan is about to show us you want me to go first yes we went down to 222 22 ben rogers i went with 229 229 the rangers the rangers team batting average in 2025 was 234 men and skin get the win damn it's knew this was rigged from the beginning

that means dan and jake have to go to billings well games 12 games of christmas well that was a lot of fun I think it just made I had a lot of fun do we get a piece of the sub-a-thon pie you're going to have to call the food bank buddy get in with them that's right

hey guys my cup isn't overfloweth this year can I have some of that sub-a-thon money well congratulations to Ben of skin you have Rollertown money celebrate with Rollertown Beer Works for all your holiday

You imagine all that Roller Town money? Oh, my God. All that big German money, they're rolling in. Yeah. Thank you for joining us, Ben and Skin and KT. See you guys. Great game show, dude. Adios.

Good times. Hey, congrats on doing this. Very good times. On behalf of Haymaker, we want to make a $500 donation. There you go. Look at that. To the North Texas Food Bank. All right.

And, yeah. Going to be honest. Ben and I did not discuss this beforehand. I would have said way more, but Ben has put it out there, so... That's a great move. Be that guy. All right. Well, thanks, guys.

Thanks for having us, guys. Let's have another pre-recorded bit. And then guess who we get to talk to? Paul Wall. Andre Gerard's called. Bye, Blake. Adios, Mofo. We've got to go before this becomes a zoo.

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