The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 12-8-25 | George Pickens vs. Richard Sherman and Notre Dame declines bowl game

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

Hear the entire episode by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneMike Sirois fills in for Jake who is still in NYC. A big weekend check, George Pickens has a back-and-forth with Richard Sherman, TC comes in studio to talk Notre Dame missing the playoffs and saying no to bowl season as a whole, and then RIP movie theaters (00:00) - Open: Weekend check with Mike Sirois (49:12) - George Pickens vs. Richard Sherman (01:00:23) - TC Fleming on no Notre Dame in the playoffs (01:23:10) - Around the NFL: Week 14 (01:46:32) - News: Netflix vs. Paramount for Warner Bros. (02:08:29) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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We're a little off. Very good. And hello, friends. Welcome to the Game Day Men's Health Studio in downtown Dallas. This is the DunZone. Mike Sororian for Jake today, Blake's here, Clayton. clearly you know it's the dumb zone though because this is like when my mom calls me and I answer and she says hi it's your mom yeah I go yeah we have a phone now that does

indicate who's calling me we're all well aware but like if I tell you you're listening to the dumb zone with the platform that we are dealing with now they should know yeah Do you ever call someone? Like I call you, I say, hey, is Dan McDowell there? Because it's hilarious. Right. Now, if you're doing, yes, my mom is not doing it for humor. She has an iPhone?

She has my, possibly two generations, two iPhones ago iPhone. Really? Because we give our iPhones to our in-laws. Yeah. Yeah. Both mother-in-laws get our ex- iPhones. Christina dropped on me that I think she wants the new. iPhone for Christmas.

That's a perfect idea for, like, it's just perfect that somebody wants something and you can just tell them. It's easy and it's a high end. Because if you've been married for a long, long time, it's like, I don't know, whatever. So I don't know what to buy. I don't know what to buy. I don't know what to, you know, if you have little kids, it's real easy because you can get them something stupid.

You can go to Kroger. Yeah. Go to the toy aisle and buy just a couple of those little crappy toys. Can you really? Yeah, but I told you how I messed up. Because a few weeks ago, I let Brooks peruse the Amazon Christmas catalog. Ooh. So now he's pointed at a telescope, a bow and arrow set.

So unfortunately, I don't know. What's the high-end electronics magazine that would come out? Sharper image. Sharper image. I used to love that. Oh, my God, I love sharper image. Yeah, let me get the vibrating foot massager. Yeah, or I need this.

Did you ever have a store here? in Dallas or wherever you guys were, a sharper image like brick and mortar? I don't recall. Yeah, I've seen one. They had them in Miami. I don't know how rare they were, yeah. It wasn't like Spencer where everybody had one. But that was a step into the future, an actual sharper image story.

Oh, yeah, that's the first place you saw a drone, right? Yes, 100% of a drone or like the vacuum that just runs, like a, it's got a brain of its own. Yeah. You just have one of those? That's something I kind of think. Not worth it. You think it's not or you know it's not? It's not worth it for me because we always have stuff on the floor.

I mean, if your house is tidy, then I think it's good. If you have little kids. But it's just going to run into toys and shoes and stuff in my house. Our buddy and Jeff and Austin has one. It's awesome. It like washes the, like, it doesn't just vacuum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wet dry.

He's got a, yeah. Now, we had one when we had an apartment, but the bad thing was we had a dog in this apartment, which was good because he would brush up her hair and whatever else. But she had accidentally gone number two. Oh, it got the smear. And it pushed it all over our apartment. I've heard that nightmare, but you know it firsthand.

And yeah, if it's just like a mound, the smell is just centrally there. But something about smushing it just made it smell worse. Yeah, grind it in. There's an old onion article. I just love the headline. And it says, dog be friends rumba. It's just a picture of a happy dog kind of next to his new friend. I have friends who have them

They look awesome And I've dog hair everywhere So I'm like maybe But then it's six, seven hundred bucks For a good one And Kind of with you I doubt that it's gonna actually work

Well if you're getting her an iPhone Maybe pretty Pretty equal Get her a Roomba too No she gets you the Roomba She also has birthday December 16th And then Christmas So I get the fucking

Left right combo platter So I need two things That's a tough one iPhone and a case In a case yeah And a charger You give her the case on the 16th, and she'd be like, what is this? Wait.

Wait, honey. It's the best gift I ever got was when I was 16 or 17 or whatever. I got a Ford Pinto maintenance book. Oh, really? I'm like, what is this? How many days later? Yeah, I don't know if I had to wait a couple days or walked out to the driveway or something, but then I had a beat up.

A brown bow on it. 1970, a 12-year-old, whatever, Ford Pinto. Really? Yeah, which was the greatest thing ever. Because when, probably not to today's kid. Yeah. To get a real beat up, rusted out. Like, it had the bumper was tied, you know, a rope had tied around the bumper to make sure it wouldn't fall off.

Jesus. Yeah, it was like a $500 car. Why is the Pinto, the, like, cliche worst? Did they, like, have recalls and they were exploding or something? Yeah. If, um, wherever the gas tank was located or something, like if you, even a light fender bender from the back, it could actually explode. And my car was white. And, uh, this was after a national tragedy of some sort. And so we all had C-Bs. This is how we would talk to each other. Like we, we got C-Bs. And my buddy had one. He'd just be at his house with a C-B or like, I could just find it. Are my buddy's out on the road tonight? Okay, cool.

Let's go meet some. I think I always knew they'd be on the road. Yeah. And then you'd talk to each other. And triangulate your location. But anyway, my handle was the challenger because it was white and it could explode at any time. I got it. And I didn't have respect.

Just imagine a CB antenna hanging out the back of a pinto. Yeah. It's so awesome. Just flopping around back there. And the truckers that would pick up on their communication as a, They were driving through Ohio. Oh, no, we had, and we had fun, like, just being A-holes to the truckers. Yeah.

Like, yeah, F you, buddy, what are you going to do? You want, I'm right here. Yeah. Speed trap coming up. Do you remember a friend who's in a ham radio? No. Which I think is essentially that same thing, but it's kind of like on the ground based, and you just have a big antenna set up and you just talk to people on the radio. I've heard of the ham radio.

Yeah. But I was never involved in that. And that's not what today's program is about, folks. Today, we will talk NFL football. We will talk about George Pickens versus Richard Sherman. We will have a couple of gummy thoughts. I don't know if you have any of those. Always.

We will talk Notre Dame and the entire college football playoff. And we will fix that for you today. We will let you know where Clemson ended up going. That was a big part of my day yesterday. Really? I was watching the Sun Bowl live stream. The Sun Bowl announcements? The Sun Bowl announcement live stream.

Oh, God. Because that was one of the possible places where Clemson and my daughter would end up going. You have to go? And you get to go. No, they ended up in the Pinstripe Bowl, which is at Yankee Stadium. Oh, wow. Okay. On, like, December 27th.

and you're booking travel now no okay uh she i'm not going to go there to see the pinstripe bowl no i don't care about the team at all unless they just employ my kid which they don't officially do yet because everything she does is for free um but anyway yeah i i spent like two hours watching these two guys just stumble over the whole thing And, oh, yeah, and T.C. is going to be into talking under name. Good. But we should do a weekend check. It'll be brought to us by fairlease.org. I talked about this a couple times before, but not only is Fair Lease, you know, if you're into the leasing scene, it can be much better than buying a vehicle, you know.

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We didn't cover much. We decided, hey, show up. It's going to be cool, right? My favorite. Mike Soroy, do you watch some football today? Yeah, we'll be good. All right. Clayton, do you want to go?

Sure. So Saturday went to a gun show in Louisville. Scores, a big gun guy. Are you really? You're a big gun guy? I dabble. How many pieces are we holding? Enough.

Oh, we didn't answer that? If there's trouble. Double didge? I'm not calling Blake. Not holding right now. I'm not asking that right now. No, I can't hold in the Fox Sports game day men's health studios. That security dude up front?

Yeah, I can't do it. We'll revoke your red badge. Hadn't been to one since pre-COVID. Kind of felt like a dicey situation during COVID, so. And they kind of all moved to like Mesquite and Fort Worth, and I just didn't feel like driving. But this one was in Louisville. So made the trek up to former Vistur Ridge Mall, now Music City Mall. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So they have something going on there. Yeah. The J.C. old J.C. Pennies is now a convention center that holds gun shows, quinceanietas, and any party you could ever want. Wow. Yeah, I was there like three years ago, and it was just one out of every seven stores was open. Yeah, it's kind of weird. There's like a big, like, Desi halal market thing next door. So they're kind of like repurposing most of it, but it was, packed

and it was very interesting because I hadn't been to one in forever but the thing I'd forgotten was how much non-gun stuff is at the gun show so there's a sensy booth if you want to get some new fragrances for your melted wax

candle with a light bulb thing on it you can get some hemp and CBD foot creams if you're feeling pain and then the piece to resistance is always the gun show beef jerky. Just great. There's always a guy

that is just every type of meat you could ever think of. Sammon, sorry, Dan. But just like venison, all kinds of good stuff. So I don't know why, but like most of the gun shows I go to, I come out I've always come out with just jerky.

Is it just meat you could kill with a gun? Is it hard to get a salmon with a gun? That, you know, that's actually kind of a good point i don't i don't know if you could shoot a salmon with the gun yeah depending on where you are maybe yeah you just spray the whole area i think you could you'd have to go like buckshot or something in a shallow river but then you're worrying about ricochets and pears i don't want to mess with bears so what'd you leave with just some jerky just memories oh yeah even better um

what's it cost to get in a gun show these days 25 bucks 10 bucks yeah great taco truck out front Is that right? They pay you $10 or you have to pay to look at guns? Yeah, for the right to... The right to maybe buy one? Yeah. Yeah. Huh.

But it was very interesting. A lot of stuff that I have in the safe that I did not realize was as expensive as... Oh, you're learning some values? Yeah. The guns go up in value sometimes? Some of the collector pieces that I have gone up, and so I need to readjust that insurance deductible. Is the gun loophole thing still a thing?

Can you just buy a gun that day? leave with it? In Texas, you don't have, you can do a personal, person to person purchase without a background check, but the majority of the tables there are just, you know, gun shops that bring a lot of their inventory from the local area, or they just, there's guys that just travel to these shows that, you know, the same tables that I'd seen five years ago that were still doing it. And, you know, the market's changed a lot, but it was, it was very, it was very, Very interesting just because the amount of, I mean, there's all kinds of people there. Like, there's every walk of life buying a gun.

And I had forgotten that, like, it is literally just how packed you are because there's just so many people there and so, like, the tables are so spread out. But, yeah, it was an interesting little Saturday. Great tamales. Oh, the taco truck up front of tamales. Stole the show. Yeah, still swung by Conne Roe. Rosa got me a piece of lasagna, brisket lasagna on the way home.

Another thing for the weekend, I might be a sleeping socks guy now. Whoa. I started doing that Friday, and I've had three nights of amazing sleep with socks on. And I might be a sleeping socks guy now. I think that works until you have a rough go and you do the panic, pull them off, and chuck them in the middle of the night, you know. I don't know, I sleep cold, though. Like, I keep it real cold, so it's like, it's always nice to have that little extra layer.

Is there a show policy on that? Are you sleeping socks team? I guess I don't have an opinion. Why are you panicking and taking your socks off in the middle of the night? No, because I don't understand any of this. Sometimes I'll go to sleep with socks on because my feet are cold. Then I panic. My feet are hot, and then I'm pissed that I have to wake up and reach all the way down there.

And it's not a natural movement to get your socks off quickly. You know, the finger drag. And launch. Well, my weekend check, one thing went to the Jared Sandler charity event yesterday. How was it for you? Awesome. Brooks played on the bounce house, the slide, kicked a soccer ball around, ran around. It was awesome.

Was it a great event for kids? Globe Life on the field? On the field. Yeah, Sandlight Charities. I'm not sure. I think they help kids. of some sort but like

the whole thing was I was telling people that we donated something like I was telling my wife she's like what's the charity for and I go

I don't know probably kids and stuff I know I know Jared is like one of the best people I have ever known like it has to be for something great

a guy like that is not right yeah it's not a charity for him like I don't know all proceeds go to Jared Sandler

yeah I don't know it's just you know it's going to be great you know it's going to be so the up and up. But we won a bid. Did we? Well, I was messing around with the bidding process at first because it was like at $450 and then I bumped it up to like $500 and then 575 when somebody beat that. And then I knew we had a few thousand dollars we wanted to give to Jared's charity.

And so they had a, you can win this bid right now for $3,000. So I just did that. Oh! We were going to give it anyway. I could have spread it around and gotten more stuff, I guess. Like we were considering, let me look at what I was considering. Yeah, why didn't we spread it around a little bit? We could have been field Zs.

You got mad at Jake for giving all of his homeless money to one guy in San Antonio. You just did the same thing. We were texting each other. We could have bid on. Talk Cowboys over dinner with Brad Sham and Brian Broad us at Bob Steak and Shop House. And we're going to bid on that and either go to dinner with Brad Sham and it'd be uncomfortable, as you'll find out later when Blake plays Brad and Babe audio for us. Or we were going to win that bid and then send Blake's homeless friend, Angelo.

And he'd get a nice meal. Bob, yes. get to sit with Brad Sham How great would that be? Just him? I probably should have done that. Yeah. Give him some clothes to wear.

Yeah, go to my shower. Sort of nice. We had another one we could have been on Go to a Mavs game with Chris Arnold. Okay. There was one for like one of the fan shows. Sean and RJ.

We could have sit in. Dinner with those guys. Oh, we could have. I'm guessing there's no other invasion. Do they do the... Is it still called the invasion or no? I think it is.

With Donovan and Matt McLaren? There was a invasion sit-in. So we could have won that. Would they have let us in? Can Cumulus just ban us? If we paid... I think they would. Hey, we paid $5,000 for charity

just to be a sit-in and watch your show. They would let you in. No, they wouldn't. Yes, they would. There's one guy who would not let you in there. Well, who's we? You and Jake? You three?

Yeah, we just go in to watch the show. We're not on the show or anything, but we won this experience. You offered it up to the public, and we're in the public. We're not going to do anything. I understand. What do I'm going to do in there? Right. Steal the spotlight.

Go potty. But would he... Do you know what a pain in the ass would be for him to deny you and then have to, what, facilitate, refunding the charity? If we were smart and agitators, because that's the way to get engagement and everything is to, if we were agitators, we agitated things with the ticket. Like, if I was to make a deal out of, like, the fact that the ticket unfollowed me on social media. Like, why? What are we in third grade?

But they did. But I just think we could, like then. And that's what we would do. We would buy the sit-in with the invasion, make it either get denied, and then it's a story. Yes. And then we'd talk, or we get it accepted, and then we're there, and we take pictures and stuff. Right.

But we're not smart. You could have done that. We're just trying to, to get more subs, we're trying to do like a sub-a-thon. I got it. And encourage people to. You should do that. A long one. But we're not.

But what was the other thing I wanted to say about that? You're going to tell us what we actually. actually got. Oh, what we actually won, sorry. We won the pizza buffet experience for 20 with a pizza bus bus at your location and an appearance from Texas Rangers mascot captain. Okay. So I just wanted. We take it all back. We're going to just do the show somewhere. Perfectly spent. a bus full of pizza that shows up and we get the Rangers mascot

and we have people there and hang out. Do you think they would offer that opening day? No way. Park the pizza bus next to the bang bus? Captain's hands are full on opening day. He is stressed. Okay, but we won that in Jared's charity. Excellent. It was a good bit.

And then one other thing, I started watching, let's see I finished watching a show called The Chair Company. Yeah. Did you do it? I'm kind of stuck. It's insane.

Stuck like four or five episodes in. I don't know what I should be doing. I don't know, man. It's the craziest show you've ever seen. And then I started watching Pluribus. Seriously, one of the top things written here, I was going to ask if you are in on Pluribus. How many did you get in?

One. Okay. I just started it yesterday morning. Are you guys? Oh, my God. I'm so. So, if episode, like, it's one of the greatest first episodes of anything I've ever seen. It's incredible.

The whole, it's just the way it sucks you in. Yes. So I'm very interested to see, you know, what's going to happen. But in this first episode, I noticed a movie thing. And I think you're keeping this list for me, Blake. But it's like, I've talked about things like movie fire. Like, I'm an expert at making and maintaining a, the fire in our living room.

One of my few things I'm good at. And there's when you have a people that make a fire in a movie and then they light it and then it's perfect for hours. And I know my fire is perfect for about 10 minutes. And then you got to move it around and put another piece on. Maintenance required. Movie babies. They don't cry.

You're barely, you just kind of put them down. Whatever. Movie, you know, just things in movies. I have one that we've been obsessed with. It's the movie sports book, basically, like in a parking lot where everyone's just yelling and with fistful of money. And there's a chalkboard, but there's no, like, actual allocation or plan. They're just grabbing money and yelling. I got one more.

Very good one. If you're the subject of something in a movie. So the main character is like... CNN and Fox News, they're all doing stuff on you. And you had some meltdown or something, and then CNN's on, and you're, you're watching it. And you're like, turn that off and you flip it off. Oh. Like if you were-

I love that. Every movie, you're right. Right when they're getting to like what I need to know or what I wouldn't care about. But if you were the subject, like if Fox 4 is doing a story on Mike Soroy, and you walk in and I'm watching it and I'm really into it and you pick up the remote, turn that off. I don't want to watch. You absolutely want to see what that. saying about you. That is such a good one. And it's people who aren't like just in the

news every day. Right. So, okay. But I saw a new one. It's, uh, and it's in pluribus. But I've probably seen this a hundred times on TV or movies and zero in real life. But it is they put money in the, uh, the snack machine.

And the Fritos comes out. Oh, it gets stuck. And then somebody has to put their hand in or you're hitting the machine. Do you remember that in episode one? Yes. The thing gets stuck. So just add that to the list of things that happen in movies but aren't realistic. The movie Torch. Let me just wrap this shirt around this.

Oh, and the torch lasts forever. Walk around. It lasts for an hour. Right. I'm glad you're on board with Pluribus. It's been since original Game of Thrones that I was like I get excited during the week for when it's going to drop. And it doesn't slow down, Dan. If you love the pilot, you will absolutely love pretty much the whole thing. I don't know

or five or six in. It is a plus. And it just drops weekly, right? Yeah, I think it's Fridays or Thursday at midnight. But Pleribus is like Vince Gilligan, so it's like when you give someone who's really creative and you say there's almost no limits and here's a lot of money,

like what would you do with it? And there's just not many people that I think have that level of freedom, creativity or financially to make these shows anymore. But this dude got it all and I don't know. I don't know where it's going, but a damn plus first one in a while. As we continue on, let me just mention Community Mechanical.

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and he could like escape sometimes and there was a Burger King on base like they had a contract with every Air Force base put a Burger King. So he would just go up on the roof of Burger King and like take naps. But he was right by the vent and Burger King has a smell to it.

Clayton would know this, the Tsar of fast food. There's just a Burger King emits a smell. I feel like I could tell the Burger King smell over me. McDonald's. I don't know what it is. Yeah.

For maybe a one. That flame broil. One block concentric circle around every Burger King. You can smell flame broil. But this dude would do it for like weeks at a time and nap up there. And then he consistently for months smelled like Burger King. You would nap? Yeah.

He would just go up there and nap on the roof of BK. Community mechanical. So you understand the weekend check? Would you like to play? I think I got it now. I don't have much to report. I kind of stayed home. Watch a lot of football.

I watched, we're on a Tarantino kick so we watched Ingloria's Bastards last weekend we watched True Romance this weekend which is one of my favorite movies Have you ever seen it? No, I don't know if I've heard of it It's the first thing he wrote He didn't direct it

He was the writer on it And it's just excellent And try to go out and... So what was it that then? Reservoir Dogs? Yeah, Reservoir Dogs Like his first place That was his first I think the one he directed and had Tony Scott actually directed

A true romance but Loaded cast Incredible movie very good uh and we try to go out and enjoy bishop arts district which is so packed because the whole thing is decked like your studio they are christmased up and they have thing called the tipsy elf which is just built for instagram you know like so you can go take pictures with gorgeous christmas whatever and we walked down there with kt and his wife roxy and there was an hour and a half line wait to like get into this area where you have the privilege of buying 25 dollars drinks and taking a picture

snowman this life size so we immediately turned around and went home oh you didn't do it fuck no no but that's the new hip thing huh i don't know down there okay it's packed it's crazy so you have a girlfriend not a wife yeah and are you a a let's go uh get a picture of santa me and my girl okay that's like a bit people do that no no no not at all she's not at all she's not She's very similar to me. She wants to chill. We love chilling. So, like, I was, KT.

was, people park in my house when they come to Bishop Art sometimes because parking sucks. So then it's like, hey, man, can I park your house? I'm like, sure. But then I'm like, is the real question? Do you want to go out with us or join us, you know?

And usually we have no problem declining that, but we were doing nothing. So we're like, yeah, man, we'll walk down there with you and check it out. But generally, we don't do much, man. We eat, drink, eat well, drink well, but we don't stay out. He asks if he can park in front of your house?

In my driveway. Oh, okay. Parking's a bitch down there, and, yeah, obviously, I don't mind. Then y'all just split after that? Yeah, we walked with them, saw the line. And plus the Duke game was on, which I was already pissed that. I was leaving. Yeah, so we went to a bar and knocked one drink down and went home.

You're a Duke fan now? Yes. Because your buddy's the head coach? That's correct. The former head coach of Miami? Yeah, former D.C. of the Texas Longhorns and Penn State. I think I saw him at your house or cash is one of those

At the NCA auction? Yeah, yeah. He's awesome. He's a cool, funny dude. He's just like this regular dude. But you were talking before the show. He's received multimillion dollar buyouts. I mean, you can Google it, yeah. His buyout when he got fired from Miami,

which they had like their best ACC record in a long time under him and more ACC wins. Like, you know, any coach has an argument prepared to tell you why he shouldn't have got fired. But yes, when an LSU guy gets fired and he gets whatever million dollar buyout, it's like, oh, my God, it's just news. You're like, that's crazy. But when it's actually someone you know, it gets a $4 million buyout, I'm like, that you get that? They just give it to you.

So, yes, it's pretty cool. And now he's at Duke, and they won the ACC for the first time by themselves since, like, 1962. And they're freaking out. And they love him. And they've done well, despite having, I think, five losses. They won the FNACC, which is... Did he beat Belichick? Yeah.

Oh. He beat Belichick on a fake field goal right at the end of the fourth quarter. Okay, so it took tricks. Yeah, you need a trick. I haven't seen him since then, but I wonder what that... I mean, he's going to shake hands with Belichick after the game. I think that's kind of cool. Yeah.

So I don't... I saw on the week before that when they lost to Virginia. I haven't seen him since. But Cash went to the game this weekend in Charlotte. where they beat Virginia pretty cool man yeah according to my guys on the Sun Bowl selection show

my people they were saying that Duke win kind of changed things as far as where teams were going to slot because if Virginia won they would have gotten one of those slots right I think so as the conference champion yeah no I learned more about

by listening to this show like I learned that the the Fenway Bowl there's a bowl in Fenway. And apparently that's supposed to take an ACC team, but then they didn't. And it was a big controversy. And now, like, well, what about the dominoes from that? I'm like, I don't know.

I don't know, man. Blake. I'm going to take you back to Wednesday because I didn't really talk about the flight to Detroit or trip to Detroit with the Cowboys. It was my first exposure to winter because we land and have to exit. And remember, we're not going through a terminal. or a gate, you step off the flight, and you get, you're on

the tarmac, and then you get on your bus to the hotel. We get out in a snowstorm. Have you done that in the stars? Yes. Like we've gotten out in so, because you don't really over-dress with the big coat and everything, because you're on the plane in Dallas, and then all of a sudden you get

off in Edmonton, and there's two feet of snow, and you're standing outside just in your suit jacket, no gloves, no hats. And that wind blast the hell out of And yes, you're looking for your luggage and you have to wait for all the stars to get their luggage first because you're not allowed to step in front of a player

because, God forbid. Yeah. Same thing with the cowboys. The player has to be an actual human. Make wait, make wait, make wait. Make way. Why? I'm not in a hurry.

Like, if you got your bag before... Oh, I don't know, George Pickens, then possibly they could lose tomorrow. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He's freezing out there. Yeah. You made him wait an extra 20 seconds.

Yeah, well. In the past, I would say a couple of years, I've gotten very afraid of being cold. And I used to not be like that. I could be short sleeve and 40 degrees. What's up? I'm tough. But now I'm just so afraid of being cold that when I got on the plane in Dallas, it was 50. I gave him my heavy jacket because I knew it would be cold in Detroit.

So I was one of the few that was actually prepared. Like hung it in the... Yeah. Oh, okay. With a giant jacket ready to go. Ball or move. Hang your jacket. in the first class.

Yeah. I do it on every trip because I don't want to sit. I also don't want to sit in my seat with my suit jacket on. Yeah. So check it. And so, yeah, the first exposure to winter, 17 degrees snowing, and not a lot of dining options around the hotel. Were you by the airport, the hotel? It was about 25 minutes away, 30.

I went to one Detroit trip, and that was the worst hotel we stayed out with the Cowboys. It was so far from the city. I took like half an hour taxi ride to get into the city. We were downtown. Okay. In fact, I walked to the stadium the next day. Oh, okay, good. That's better.

Hotel wasn't awesome, so maybe it's a Detroit thing. I don't know. But got to the hotel and I started looking at places to eat in walking distance and throw this picture up, Clayton. I think this is kind of the epitome of Detroit because as you can see, to the west, there's a cocaine rehab. To the south, there's an inpatient rehab. And to the north, there's alcohol detox of Detroit. And I didn't search for rehab. I didn't search for anything.

I just zoomed out to see restaurants and three rehab places popped up right around our hotel in downtown. But yeah, Detroit was kind of as advertised. I mean, we were there in the snow, the dark snow. It just looked bleak. Do you have a friend on the plane? Like a crew?

Not really. I kind of never did it really either. Like did you go out by yourself for dinner? Yeah. Okay. I kind of did the same. I kind of would like a friend, but I don't know.

I don't mind just. I'm my own person here. Yeah. I don't have to talk to anyone. But you kind of know everyone and head nod and say, well, some, half the people. So no one on that plane is on your crew? No.

Because you're the Westwood One. Dumpus. Radio guy or whatever. Okay. Sorry. And then they hire someone from Detroit to come be the play by play guy? Sort of, yeah. It's the same guy out of New York.

Yeah, the engineer. And then Burline flies in. Engineer flies commercial. Burline flies commercial. So it's, it's just me. Do you wish Burline was local? you could fly together and you could sit next to him like you do it while driving. Crack up the whole time.

I like her setup the way it is. I like just picking him up on home game days. Can you imagine him with Burline? Oh my God. Your face would hurt. Burline. But Berline will call his girlfriend and speakerphone. FaceTime, yeah.

I asked him about his little comedy club in Miami. You did? He has a different telling of it. Oh, they just slayed and they were falling out of their chairs? He said it was like two truths and a lie or that kind of thing and they kind of had to dress up some stories and it wasn't real stand-up and I don't think I did that bad. Did he admit it was a 20 plus minute set

when everyone else did three? I didn't know. I don't remember that, but that makes sense for him. Next time you pick him up, all of a sudden Mike Soroy is in the backseat. Like, hey. Hey, listen to this, recording. Let me ask you a few things. Do you go to the, do they saw the media suite at the Cowboy Hotel?

I don't know about that Like upstairs though On your sheet there should be a room Where you can go after like 7 p.m. And there's some snacks and beverages And that's where all the media nerds go and mingle Which I would almost never go to eat Yeah

No, I've got a I've got 75 bucks to spend on dinner So I go max out and then I go back to my room I'm good What'd you eat? Anything classic Detroit fair No everyone went pizza But I just found this place I got lobster pasta

Okay nice How do we do per DM now Do we get a cash envelope, like in the old day? No, you turn it in through an app where you take a picture of your receipt, and you get 25 for breakfast, 50 for lunch, 75 for dinner. Damn. And so I went a little over on breakfast the next day because I found this like walk-up.

Okay, so you don't get that full amount. No. And just don't you, okay. Now, but I don't, I didn't like that. Because with North Texas, I got the cash in the envelope. But then I was like, you know, if I just eat a cheap dinner, I can pocket the rest of this. You can't do that anymore.

Why don't you like that? Isn't that better? No, because I don't want to eat a grilled cheese. Like, I want to have a good meal. They're making you eat something good. Because if you don't use it, you lose it. Sure. Okay.

Yeah. See, I went a little around. That did surprise me. You bought lobster, whatever. Okay, go ahead. Premium. Yeah. No, I'm going to eat right.

It's on the company. I tried to get a picture with Peter pregame because this was an Amazon broadcast and he was too busy to take pictures. I got really close to him The dog Kirk Herb Street Okay that's what I thought

All right Yeah I know you were commissioned to do that Sorry for the reset yeah So you saw him But you could I got from me to you to him And was ready to take a picture Brandon was next to me

I was going to use him to get a picture And then Kirk Herb Street's like Pointing up to the press box And he walks to his set And then they sprint Peter To the elevators I guess he had a schedule to keep Too busy to do

to get a picture. The Temptations played half-time. I did see that. I thought that was interesting. Are they the real temptations? I don't know. I saw Nellie in Vegas, post-Malone, and then for some reason in Detroit, the Temptations.

Well, they're from there, and they're probably really cheap nowadays. Yeah, probably. Yeah, it was kind of low, low-effort halftime show. But I guess it was cool for some. And then, Mike, you've been on the charter a lot. So you know that the airplane,

freezer is set to like negative 35. It's way too cold. Any treat or ice cream is way too clean. Okay, I don't remember that. This guy's going to complain about the free food he got on the Cowboys' Flight. Too frozen, this delicious treat. Yeah. And in fact that one of our friends at the ticket cracked a tooth on some airplane ice cream. Gribble? No.

So I got the strawberry frozen fruit bar and I was really ready for it. I thought, no, the ice cream is too frozen, not this thing. And I go to take a bite of it and my lip stick to it. And I'm a Christmas story stuck to this thing. And so, you know, I'm in my own world. I think everyone on the plane is looking at me, like in a just fear. So I just rip it. And? It's been bad for five days. Blood? Not really. Just red and raw. I'm just sitting here with my tongue playing with the skin on my lip. How long do you think it was on there?

Just a second or two? It felt like forever. It was two seconds. I was like, oh, no, oh no. I had to get it off. We land about 3.45 a.m. In bed at 5 and then we're back on the show the next day.

Have you ever talked about how shitty your car looks like in that parking lot with all their cars? See, luckily we park in a parking lot so we have to go through the little building and then it's out to the parking lot. Oh, really? The stars would valet the cars up to the plane, which was cool. Oh, okay.

We would all just park the same lot, and they just have amazing vehicles. Okay, yes. Of which they drive, they do not respect the speed limit either. Dallas Cowboy players, believe it or not. All an ass out of there. Yeah. Well, I think, I know with the stars, they would line the cars up on the tarmac. And so, yes, it would be Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mazda.

We could find our cars. So at 3.45 or whatever, you're walking over to a parking lot? Yeah. They don't have them all waiting for you? No, no. Yeah, they would have them waiting for you They'd put the keys on the No, this is just an enclosed parking lot

Keys under the sunshade Like in a movie day? No, they'd be like laying on the windshield Do you remember that? Yeah The stars guy would leave them laying Like right on top of the windshield wiper It was weird

Yeah Like I always thought What if that falls into the engine, you know? Yeah, gone forever Yeah But never did So then yeah Early morning Friday, do the show

and then we go out to Choctaw Stadium for Argyle round four playoff game in which we settle for way too many field goals. We're only at Friday in his weekend. I'll hurry. Argyll falls. I like it. Argyll loses. Oh. Oh, Blake.

No. When were you going to tell us? Right now. And a weekend show? Yeah. I thought you said you're going to win. Oh, I know. Yeah.

Well, again, just offense, just hit a lull in the red zone, settled for too many field goals. We line up for, yeah, I want to say, We, a 31-yard field goal with 30 seconds left. We miss it wide right, and Argyll loses 20 to 19 to Melissa. Wow. He was 4-4 up into that point, but, yeah, tough one. Tough one.

Jesus. Season's over. And then had a listener birthday party on Saturday. Mike, I'm not sure if you're familiar with this bit or not. I saw a picture of somebody proud that Blake showed up to their first. party so fill me in you're kind of in a similar spot where you're you're handed a human and now you have to care for them in my case for an entire weekend and I don't know what to do I can park him to front of the TV or an Xbox I feel like that's not great for him so I just put out the call

to our listeners if you have a kid birthday party or you're doing something on the weekend and you would like for me to tag along invite me what on the show you said that yeah okay how many What advice did you get? I think this was number five or six I've been to. So I got a message from this guy, great listener, Tim, who said, hey, my daughter's four-year-old birthday parties at this gymnastics place in Allen. If you would like to attend from 335, I was there with a bow on. I think it's a fantastic idea. Do you bring a gift?

I ask. Nah, you're the gift. Kind of. So you just say, is anyone having a party, a kid's party? Blake and his kid just show up and then his kid just plays with all these other kids that he's never met before. It's something like nice rented out place

in some cases? Well sometimes it's a house, right? It's been a house. Oh, right out. And now you're mingling with his He's having a great time. He's having a great time. Look, he's not in front of a screen.

He's having a great time. He's got to be having a way better time than you. But see, I was telling this to Tim. I've been to Brooks' classmates' parties and those suck. Because I don't know the parents. At least you know one guy at this one. This guy made a beeline to me.

Thank you so much for coming. We talk about the show. He asked how cool Dan McDowell is. I get to tell him for 30 minutes. How awesome is. Like, we have stuff to talk. And his wife is like, who is this again? But the wife is always really weirded out by me.

Oh, yeah. So she came with me. He's like, so what's your, who are you? What are you? A podcast? Or like, your husband invited me. I like to give my kids something to do on the weekend. We're just here to have fun.

I'm sorry. They're all whispering over there. Like, who's the guy? in the mustache. For sure. I don't know idea. But it's always the wife that has the problem. Keith invited him. The guy... Ladies just don't get it. But anyway, yeah, he got to play gymnastics for an hour, had a great time,

and then he knows the bit, you go into the room, you have your pizza, you have your cupcake, you sing happy birthday, and we leave. You should bring a gift, though. I think I will. I'll start. Yeah, this guy is inviting you, it's, he's giving you a gift of something to do with your kid and your kid's eating, and you don't even bring anything.

Okay, I'll start. You should bring a gift that's... A bottle of bourbon. For him? Yeah, clearly for somebody older. Like, just do something, make it a little bit weird. Or like a gift certificate to... Well, we got the merch bin out there. Yeah, give him a dumb zone t-shirt.

That is what you should bring. A dumb zone mug. Okay. Because I have one for the next two weekends as well. Really, you're booked? I'm booked through the rest of the... What are we doing? And Mike, this doesn't...

This doesn't no limits. No, it's a kind of... Any ethnicity, any background you'll go. Good. Yeah, I was the only white at an Indian party. a few months ago. Is that a house? Yeah, a good friend Mace invited me.

Imagine that sticking out. Oh, he stuck out. You're a lot of that case. Sure. You're a genius. That's amazing. My kid has a great time. It kills a few hours.

And he's meeting new people. It's an awesome time. And then, yeah, I did the charity, Jared charity event. God damn. Run around on the field. Blake wins. Brooks had a great weekend. Okay?

Isn't that what we want? That's what I want. Yeah. Did he fall asleep? Yes. That's what we want. We want our kids to get tired enough to fall asleep. Yeah.

There you go. I'm done. All right. I thought that was really good. Thank you. Well, it's time for this. Oh, here it is. From the wonderful world of sports, radio sports, scoreboard.

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where it's an Amazon show. Richard Sherman is on the Amazon set. And it's really weird because I wanted to find the full context of all this. And if they were all ripping on George Pickens, they weren't. They were all talking about how great the Lions played. And I'm on Raw. And then they throw it to Richard. Sherman, he's going to say this, and then they're going to throw it to someone else,

and they're going to go back to the line. Like, Richard Sherman was the only one who focused on the Cowboys in the post game, and this is what he said. The big story here is George Pickens. George Pickens throughout the game, especially late in the game, just looked uninterested, uninterested in playing football. You know, and that's what you can't have. If you're going to be a superstar, if you want to be the best receiver in the National

Football League, you can ever be disengaged. It doesn't matter if the game's going your way or not going your way. You can't just disappear in these games or else you're not going to have impact. and just right here, cruising, cruising routes. You're the guy. You're the guy. C.D. Lam is not in this game. He's out, and you get intercepted on your slant routes,

and you can't be the guy in half-asset. I'm sorry, that's just, you can't, it's unacceptable. And if you're to Dallas Cowboys and you're looking at him and you're looking to pay him big-time receiver money, $40 million. You've got to look at this tape and say, hey, is this a guy we can trust paying $40 million to show up regardless of circumstance? I don't know. I mean, it's something I thought.

thought about right at the, while watching the game, and then after the game, and that is a thing that, you know, you kind of get the feeling that there's going to be something with George Pickens in the future. Is he a guy that you want to pay $30 million a year to? He's going to make that somewhere. On those good games, you certainly think he is. I think disinterested, right? That was probably the key word that got everybody worked up, because that was basically post-game analysis. Like that wasn't anything Yeah You know

I remember You've probably seen it a bunch On Twitter or whatever Just one of the plays Near the end of the game too Where Yeah There was one kind of

Within reach But I just never really even Gave it an attempt I don't disagree with What German said He looked weird He looked different in that game

And yes with CD out I guess it was Even more time To step up And be super George Pickens And he's also right That yes He's playing for a lot of money right now.

There's a lot of, like, discerning eyeballs on him maybe more than a year's past. I mean, he's going to get a lot of money no matter what. Yeah. Do you have the pick-ins post game? Because he was asked about this. I just don't want to step in front of you if you're about to play it. No, what do you got?

He said, like, in a game, he just saw a lot of coverages. And he said, for an all-pro corner to not realize, like, I drew double teams the entire night. CD went for over 100, and CD's backup went for over 100. So he was just saying, like, well, I drew a lot of attention. Yeah. I listened to him, but I didn't feel like it was explosive or anything he gave. No, no, no.

I just didn't want to say what you were about to play if you were going to. No, no, no. I'm not going to play that because I didn't think it was huge. But I think because he was asked about it and he didn't, hadn't heard it yet and didn't even know it existed. And yes, that is the measured response that he gave. but then he thought about it a little bit and he went on Twitter or Instagram or something

and I have it in there but then he puts he posts this is a team game LMAO I'm not the only one on the team stop becoming a analyst and talking about one player when he playing a team's game lots of

has to go right for period Explosive period plays. I hate reading, like, actual thing that's on... Verbatim, continue. And it's funny because I thought former players would know that such as. Richard... Okay, now we're all caps.

Richard Pussy-ass Sherman, who BTW ain't without the Legion of Boom, we all remember San Francisco, brother. now we go to caps lowercase much love don't speak on me unless you know the game of football as a former player not a dick riding a dick riding fan analyst that act like double team is not a thing or certain bracket coverages don't exist knowing you played ball which show me you a leech weirdo now twitter eat this up So I'll finish it. Me? Yeah, what is the clouded, ah, world?

I don't know. I don't know. Read it again, actually. The whole thing. Well, anyway, basically it's Hey, Richard Pussy Ass Sherman. Much love. We all remember San Francisco.

So Richard Sherman, because somebody said, hey, what's your response? Good. He responds, L-O-L, Kidd hasn't done enough to merit a response for me. But? Now, then he goes on to respond. Okay.

I was working on my third consecutive first team, All-Pro, and second Super Bowl appearance at the same point in my career. L.O.L. I made an all-pro team and Super Bowl in San Francisco, but that's the falloff for me. So he did definitely respond, even though George Pickens hasn't done enough to merit a response. George Pickens then deleted his tweet, which I think... Yeah. Come on, man. Do it in standby or not? It's funny to delete it because the world still has it.

Shottie was asked about it, and he said, I'm going to judge George on the body of work, and his body of work shows me that he is an elite player. So he's got to walk this tightrope of angering George Pickens or trying to get the most out of George Pickens. And I think he's doing a good job there. I think publicly the only thing you should say is how awesome George Pickens is. Now, he's also publicly kind of said, hey, George doesn't really like Wednesdays and Thursdays,

which means like the meeting days. He also publicly suspended him for the first series of a game when they were in Vegas. Who would have thought that there would be issues when NFL teams go to Vegas with their players not adhering to curfew? So there we have the world of George Pickens right now. So you have to have one slow game, right? That's what he had. And then the Pickens thing starts to implode. I mean, he's been so damn good.

He really had, I mean, like we were watching that game doing the game stream. It's like 95, they put up the steady. He's that 95 yards a game receiving, which is incredible. He's awesome. If there was no JSN. we'd uh yeah he's uh he is amazing but do you want to sign up for 40 million a year for george pickens for five years i don't know that's a tough one i would my thing is let's run it back we will franchise taggy for a year now does he actually hold out does he

who is the guy in denver that back when they were either franchise taggy for a year now does he does he actually hold out does he who was the guy in Denver that back when they were either franchise tagging or he was upset he was a wide receiver because it's always a wide receiver would like be thrown a ball in practice and he would just like bat it down and kick it. Do you remember that?

Was it like the Marius Thomas or something? I can't remember. Brandon Marshall? Brandon Marshall sounds really right. That's got to be it because he was low-co. Would George Pickens go to that level? I think yeah. You do?

I do. I think Pickens is really good and like when things are going good he looks the part obviously on the field he does and even he says generally the right things but I think you are one more of these games or one sign of disrespect from just an implosion

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You could. Yeah. All right. I mean, Haralabob figured it out because he knew. And he'll talk around the edges about... Huge whales. What he did. How are you going to do that?

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I was watching I was telling these guys I was watching the As I will do The Sun Bowl selection show Mm-hmm What channel was that on by the way? It was on YouTube The Sun Bowl committee had their own selection show

What's going on? I'm sorry I missed this I guess it's on the rest of the podcast, people will be hearing it for the second time. It's because my daughter is associated with the Clemson program. They were hoping to get into the Sun Bowl? No, there was one in Tampa. There was the Sun Bowl, and then there was the Pinstripe Bowl. Yeah, and we ended up Pinstripe.

That's going to be big. Right. She was wanting the pinstripe. A little trip to New York. Or the Sun Bowl. She didn't want the one in Tampa. Okay. Because I think the date as well is like December.

19. She didn't want that. Okay. So, yeah, she'll be going December 27th, I think. She's not even sure if she's going, but she just, at least, whatever. The point is, that caused, I was looking for different bowl announcement, and I found myself to the Sun Bowl one. So they were all just talking about all the dominoes are falling and we're waiting, and we thought we'd have this announcement before.

And then the Notre Dame thing dropped, and that tore their entire world apart. Sure. This changes everything. It's an ACC bowl. Believe it, was it? Yeah. So, anyway, and then Notre Dame, yeah. So the Notre Dame thing is that Notre Dame doesn't make the college football playoff.

Miami gets in ahead of them. Although you're not really Miami. Not really, kind of. Once lived there. I support them. Very complicated relationship. His friend coached there, but then left. under bad circumstances.

With a $4 million buyout, we talked about earlier. Okay. Incredible. Notre Dame was ahead of Miami in like the polls, right? Mm-hmm. Or in the rankings. Which the college football playoff committee puts together the rankings. Yeah.

So they're the ones that put the rankings together week to week. They were ahead of Miami. And then all of a sudden, Notre Dame doesn't make the playoffs and Miami does. How do we justify this? I wouldn't. Now, Miami beat him head to head. Yeah. Well, that is their answer.

That's their answer. But the question would be, well, why were they teased with their ranked ahead of them? And they played no games since the both teams played no games since the ranked ahead of them. And I don't know. The Miami thing, like, first of all, everyone's saying this really obvious. they should stop doing the in-season rankings. They should have one ranking at the end of the season. If there's one ranking at the end of the season

where they came out and said, hey, Miami beat Notre Dame head-to-head, no one would ever have any problem with that. It makes too much sense. In that situation, I don't think there's any way Alabama would be where they are. Notre Dame is definitely a lot better than Alabama and has a better resume.

Alabama, the only thing on the resume of real consequence at this point, I mean, they beat Vanderbilt. That's cool. But they beat Georgia. And then, you know, if you have a question about whether or not this Alabama team is still the Alabama team that beat Georgia, it's been answered. They suck now. There's no reason that we need to see Alabama and Oklahoma play again. And I don't know.

I don't. I'm also saying that because I want to stay as far away as I can from arguing about a Notre Dame Miami game with Mike because the last time I did that, I ended up having my golf swing. fun of by an 11-year-old, and I've learned my lesson. You look great, though. But yeah, I don't know. Does that answer your question? I mean, the whole thing seems like a mess. Yeah.

And yes, the whole subjective vote at the end of a year, like, is there any way for them to, you know, make it where you just win your country? conference or regular season winner in a conference or actual wins and losses. I mean, could you imagine doing this in the NFL? No, but imagine a few years ago when you were arguing who this number two or three team was

or writers were essentially picking the national champion. Like, this is good. Now you're arguing who's 12, 13, 14. And if they go to 24, then you'll be arguing into the 24. We're going to argue. They're going to argue. They're going to be pissed. And they're going to say, this, they played them.

That's the part of the fun and the politics. of college football. But when they were arguing about who was in the national title game and who got snubbed there, like an undefeated team. Weren't people at that point saying this is part of the fun in politics of college football? I was. I think it's I liked it better whenever there was

no BCS whatsoever. And you just played a hodgepodge of randomly selected bowl games. And then you argued with your friends. That's fun, yes. And one would play seven and then two would play whatever and then you still have to say, yeah, but two, one by a decisive mark, yeah.

No, that all of December sucked because those games didn't matter. And if you weren't a fan of those teams, you weren't going to watch these games. And you had to wait until January 1st or whatever. One day when you get blasted with the actual good games. Dude, starting next weekend, we're getting great games that everyone cares about. We're all going to be locked in. I will. And they all matter.

Or how about when number three was also undefeated and then won their bowl game and then said, okay, we're sharing the national title with number one. Garbage. I love this. Let's argue about 12, 13, 14. Yes, this is fun for a few days, and then we'll move on and play awesome football game. Yeah, the thing about it is whenever they expanded to 12,

I thought that there was no circumstance under which you'd be arguing about teams that actually had a shot. Like, you could argue about who's got more of a right to be there. But the thing with, I mean, I just, I think the NIL stuff in the way that there's been in inflation in what people pay for NIL, I think that we've seen more good teams this year than I ever could have imagined having good teams. Like, if Texas went on, if Texas played like they did against A&M, do they go on a run to the title?

Yes. No, I agree with you. The teams that could win the national title shouldn't be out of this 12. And JMU and Tulane probably shouldn't be in if you're actually putting like the best shit forward. Notre Dame could too, but Texas absolutely could win the national championship. Notre Dame had the third best odds. They were tied with Georgia for winning the title before they got left out of. of the field. And that's, to me, makes it like that's the clearest evidence that the committee

failed. The point of this is to settle it on the field. That's why we have a playoff. And if you have a team with the third best odds and you have 10 spots and then the JMU and Tulane, you should find some way to be able to put a team that, you know, the very informed people in Vegas thought had the third best chance of winning it in the field. But yeah, I'm shocked that we're in a situation where there's 10 teams that appear to have. I mean, I don't know. I don't think Alabama or, for that matter, Oklahoma have any kind of shot. They seem like pretty bad teams to me.

I mean, you know, bad in the sense of top 15. But yeah, anyways. What about the idea of then Notre Dame not, we're not going to go to any bowl then? Like, doesn't this seem like petulant? I mean, I think it's a pretty, I think it would be a pretty, pretty big bitch move to have the ACC talk like they did in the weeks leading up where they're not just making the case for Miami. They're using their network to run the Notre Dame Miami game. I think they've played it 30 times in the last couple weeks. They're using their

Twitter account to just constantly say how much Notre Dame sucks. And then to go turn around and make money for the ACC by playing in one of their bowl games. Yeah, I don't know. It's not something I'm Super Bowl comfortable with. Is that a petulant stance, maybe? But I don't know. I'm also incensed that I get it that, you know, all the sports take guys wake up and they got to have a take on something and this is a thing that makes sense to have a take on. But anyone acting like it's a real big issue in their life, whether or not Notre Dame plays in the Pop-Tart bowl, is being a little ridiculous. And probably was just looking to say negative things about Notre Dame regardless. So I don't really care about their opinions. So if you're not in the

playoffs, why should any team play in any bowl? I mean, if you're in a conference, like the Big 12 teams that sat out, they got fined half a million dollars for sitting out because this is good for all. Like the conferences, this is a big money-making thing of every, all of our teams that qualify are going to go to a bowl, we're going to pool all that money, we're going to split it up evenly, and this

is one of the ways that Baylor is going to be able to compete with, you know, whoever, I guess there's no more big money teams left in the Big 12, Texas Tech. You know, like this is how all this is going to work. But Notre Dame is not in a conference. There's no one to find us half a million dollars. And I think that's, you know, an element in why they got left out. I think that the ACC politicking to get things decided this way was a factor.

So, you know, if we're going to get screwed by it, we might as well take the positive aspects of it of we can do whatever we want. We don't want to play in your dumb bowl game. No one can find us from not playing your dumb bowl game. There you go. Speaking of Baylor, they said they're not going to play in a bowl, right? Is Baylor one of them? I know Kansas State. They put out a statement that says we've declined the opportunity to play in a bowl

as we've already progressed deeply into the off-season timeline of preparation for the 2026 season. Oh, were they one of the five-win teams? Are they? Because, yeah, the six-win teams, you know you're going to a bowl. Once they didn't have enough six-win teams, then the five-win teams have a chance. But a lot of them. We're saying the kids have already gone home, whatever. You know, like no one's thinking about playing football right now.

Well, and then because the transfer portal is where it is, a lot of players are like leaving. Yeah. They're not going to, like you might not have, you might literally not have enough people to play in a bowl game. Yeah. It's all a mess. It's a big mess.

Is the answer to that, the transfer portal has to move? Like, all of this is why the coaching thing is happening during the season and the coaches, you know, coaches are leaving the, the Tulane game. That's weird, yeah. Our triple play on that one, two coaches weren't even going to be there. Right. You know, for the, it's all very weird. And Tulane's coach still is not going to be there, but he's still coach, you know.

Is that why they leave mid-season TC? I've always, like the Lane Kiffin thing. It had happened because of the transfer portal that's. timing of the transfer portal? I don't know. I'm not sure I could put like a single thing on it. I mean, you know,

like why can't they just wait? LSU wants an answer. Typically you want to stay ahead at the cycle. Yeah. If you wait till the very end of the season a couple of coaches you might have been interested in

or gone, they've taken other jobs. Like what if, what if Lane says no? That what's LSU going to do? Everyone else just got hired. And it's impossible to have a whisper handshake? I guess.

I mean, I don't know. If I were them, I wouldn't trust a whisper handshake with Lane Kim. No, I agree with that. But the cost being you can't coach your team, which is a very good football team in the playoff. Like, I don't know. It seems insane. That's also a special situation because, you know, it's conference.

Right. Well, like, you know, the Tulane people are not preventing John Somerall from coaching the playoffs. But it makes a lot of sense because it's not, you know. Right. If you're a stepping stone program. Yeah. UNT or Tulane, those two certainly are. Nobody's upset.

In theory, nobody's upset if you work in Dayton radio and then you move to Dallas. Except the people at that radio station. Do you see Duke Mannyweather? Yeah. Tweeting? Well, yes. He says, I've pissed off a ton of my college football coaching friends, but I don't care. He is the legendary offensive line coach, right?

We've had him on. If you are a top prospect in the draft at your position and not competing for a championship, there's way more to risk than gain by playing in a bowl game. Coaches are already recruiting your replacement. And he's right. Yeah. Good point. Like, what would the point of playing in a bowl, a...

None. Whatever. The Sun Bowl. You love the Sun Bowl. B for a player who might get drafted. And you only think about the team, you know, players at the top of the draft usually, but even, you know, the mid-round picks. Now, what if you slide from the third to the...

the sixth or out of the draft because you got injured. Yeah. It's, I don't know, everybody decry, the, where this has to go, and maybe this will take decades still, it just has to be declared a pro sport. It is a pro sport. You actually pay players, you pay, you know, there's a revenue sharing with the TV money, and you can actually then kind of control what happens in your pro sport. and you won't have coaches jumping from job to job mid-season

because you won't be able to because you're going to like they don't want to negotiate with the players and open the books and tell them what they might have to share with them because you'll be shocked at how much those players will then make and it's funny when you hear people complain about college football inevitably you will hear that ah ever since players started making money this is what's effing it all up it is effing it up in the sense of the way that they had it going was great when they could never pay players money

but the fact that they now pay them anything is going to shine more light on the fact that they're extremely underpaid still so is there any it's like their own fault yeah they want to keep making too much so much money and not be fair about it and this is what you're going to get and maybe then that makes you know weird Weirdo's like T.C. happy because he likes just the arguing and the... It does. Although you don't like the arguing about your beloved Notre Dame being left out.

The most recent result is not favorable to me, but the hodgepodge nature of college football is the thing I like about the sport. I like that it's a rat's nest of things that make no logical sense with each other. I think that's what's fun about it. And creates a lot of avenues to argue about... Which, as you all know, is my favorite thing in the world. Is any NILM money performance? based or incentive based or is it just X amount beginning of the year because there is probably a way you could get them to play in all the games and then have a bonus why not if you're a stud

QB have a bonus for advancing in the national the CFP tournament that kind of thing like I don't know I've never heard of that so I assume that there's a rule against them but I don't know yeah yeah no whatever the result got announced one of the things that you know was immediately very viscerally upsetting to me is just I wanted to see Jeremiah love play more in the Notre Dame uniform. There's no way if they'd played a bowl game that he was going to play in the bowl game. He's going to go top ten in the draft.

And he's the best running back that's ever played at the school, and I wanted to see hopefully three or four more games of him. He's the best running back I've ever seen at a Notre Dame game that I attended. That's right. That's right. T.C. Do you guys know that there's a

Snoop Dog Bowl? Yeah, yeah. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Like Snoop. I'm trying to. find it. Where is it? He sponsors a bowl. What is it at? It's called the

Snoop Dog Bull. I want to get a better understanding of people like him and Dolly Parton that I assume it's just they have an agent, Shaq. Like, he's very famous, but there's a lot of people about as famous as Snoop Dog that don't have a bowl or whatever, you know,

the, whatever he's got going on with Martha Stewart. Like, we're over snooped for sure. Yeah. But like Shaq and Kevin Hart have made the decision and hell, Walton Goggins. He's on every damn commercial out of nowhere. They've made the decision to tell their agent, money, I'll do it, anything.

Snoop somehow has skipped, like he does that, but then he's also the ambassador for the damn Winter Olympics. I think the real answer is networks think that Snoop is a friendly African-American face that white people like. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That white people like and it does, you know, add diversity to their broadcast.

So they utilize him, and he's probably like, sure. for shizzle. I just, I want to, like, who are the power players that are deciding all of this, you know, the NBC, the Winter Olympics, the bowl games, whatever, that are just like, we're going to pick him. Because, like, the, the Dolly Parton, she's in some commercials, but, like, not that many. And, like, obviously, it's part, you know, she's happy to put her name on, like, microwave dinners or whatever. But I feel like someone close to her would be able to tell me a very simple story of, like, you know, yeah she got you know connected to this person they control the world now all's you're going to

hear about all day is dolly pardon because for most of my life we did not like i was born after her hit making and for a long time no one talked about dolly parton at all and she hasn't made any more hits since then and at some point about ten years ago i'm hearing about dolly parton every single day snoop dogs similar why is this happening the snoop dog Arizona bowl brought to you Gin and Juice by Drey and Snoop. There you go. Hell he is. So that's the ball.

So Drey and Snoop, wait, is that a drink? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They have their own. Celtzer. Oh, genius. Yeah. So you can watch Fresno State take on Miami of Ohio. That's wonderful.

I think the Red Hawks. I think they used to be like an Indian name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What were they? I think Redskins. Oh, were they the Miami Redskins? I could be wrong. No, that makes sense.

Red Hawks, I figured that that's why. That does make sense. My parents' high school went to Red Hawks for the same reason. We can get a little NFL talk before a break. We have Frankel and Frankel to mention one of our longtime sponsors. 214 or 817, then dial all threes. They are personal injury attorneys. Oh, you know them very well, right?

A big sponsor over at The Freak. Good dudes. Yeah. And when you call Frankl and Frankel, you will talk to a partner. partner. You will not be pushed off to, I don't know, their Blake, you will actually talk to somebody who matters. You'll talk to their Jake, you know, when you give Frankel and Frankel a phone call. But if you do find yourself in a situation, maybe a car accident, but personal injury where you need some help fighting those insurance companies, Frankl and Frankel have helped out thousands and might help you out as well. So we're imploring you, please. Get injured, personally, and make sure it's somebody else's fault so that Frankel and Frankel can get you what you deserve. The Bears didn't cover yesterday, T.C., very upset about that.

Same. I have a... Good game, though. Bears are good. I think the Bears are kind of good. Two inexplicable things. Kansas City going for it in the late game last night. Was that third quarter? quarter? Yeah, that was early

and from their own... It was like their own 25 or so. In a tie game. 10-10 is the game. Strange. A game where their defense was playing very, very well, but, you know, the thought process is I can get one yard. I have Patrick Mahomes.

But also, we've only scored 10 as well, and this is a tough defense. I thought the risk reward was terrible there. I love going for it. I love... But Like if you get a first down at the 30, are you sure you're going to score now? Right. Inside your own 30 is, I think, insane.

And their defense was terrorizing Stroud in the second half. Yeah, so why? Like he could do nothing. I almost never seen that in an NFL game out. Wait, did Shottie have one of those the other day? Something similar? Yeah, down 10. Taking the field goal first? I'm trying to remember. But it's just the defense is playing well. I don't usually say you want to flip the field

but I thought in that game you certainly did and that didn't help our team betting either Alabama did it in the SEC Championship game they went for it on a very advantageous part of the field pretty early like I think it was end of the third quarter I didn't know if you watch that game just trying to remember or think of what you would remember

other inexplicable thing the Raiders field go at the end of the game actually gets the cover. Yeah. Did you see that? It did. I don't think any of us. I bet on that, but it's Denver and the Raiders.

Was it Denver by seven and a half? The Raiders are down 10. Yes. And driving. But there's literally four seconds on the clock. This will be the last play of the game. And they got to complete a pass and rush the ball like they were. And then they kick a field goal.

Having a team in Las Vegas is. is going to be a thorny situation. How do we explain this? This seems... You know the explanation. Yeah, it seems right in front of your face. It really does, but... Yeah.

I've never seen anything like that. At that point, you would possibly kneel it because you can't win. You have one play left, and it's 10 points. You might possibly throw into the end zone because we just do that. But I've never seen a kicked field goal with time running. out where that won't win you the game. Like, are we on the precipice of there being two games? Like, with gambling everywhere, everything's sponsored,

where coaches, like, don't even hide. Like, yeah, there's two games. We're trying to win the game. That's our top priority. But, yeah. But we get a bonus for covering. There's another little game going on that we're going to, given the opportunity, try to do this too.

And not even hide it. And hell, admit it. It feels like they... I mean, every league has their own gambling partner. It's out of control. I'd love to know if Carol was asked about it. He definitely was asked, right? Oh, I'd like to look into that.

And what does he say? We're just trying to score points. Trying to do the best we can. Another inexplicable thing, but not as inexplicable, but the Browns were kind of coming, but they ended up losing to Tennessee. Look, that's a tough draw. Tennessee at home?

No, yeah. In December. But Shadur Sanders actually led a great comeback. And at this point in the game, they're down 31 to 17 with 617 left. And Shadur has a couple of touchdowns. He ended up throwing for 364 yards, four total touchdowns. Wow. Yeah.

And they get to a point where they, They score, and they have a chance to win the game with a two-point conversion. And Shador Sanders is not on the field for the final play. And if you've seen the final play, it looks just like nobody knew what the play was. They were trying to tie the game, right? They needed the two, I think. Was it a tie? Yeah, it was, they're two down.

So they weren't going for the win, but yes, they needed it. Shador is off the field. Junkins gets a direct snap. It looked like he wasn't sure. where he was supposed to go, then was he supposed to pitch it, and then he didn't pitch it, and then he runs around, he tries to throw, like, it just looked like a mess, and they asked Shador Sanders about this at the end of the game, or after the game. What was going through your mind, you know, you're taking off the field, and then you can see

the play goal the way it goes. I was thankful that I was driving down the field and we scored. Did you wish you had the ball on your hand in that moment to tie the game? If, if I'm out there any play, you know, I would wish, I would wish, I would, I would always have the ball in my hand, but that's not what football is. Sometimes you've got to run the ball. Sometimes you've got to kick a field goal. You know, everything, like, that's the game.

That's the most important thing is the ball. So in any situation, of course you would want to, but I know we practice something and we execute it and practice, and we just didn't seem to this day. So I would never go against, you know, kind of like what the call was or anything. So that's a very very mature response, right? Yeah, I thought it was very good. Kind of.

What do you mean? It had a very like early Jason kid flavor to it. Like everyone likes the ball. Yeah, but he's trying not to throw his coach onto the bus. He certainly could have said, hell yeah, I should have been out there. Yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous that I wasn't out there. And I think that's what they're expecting Shador Sanders to say.

Sure. We're all expecting that. Yeah. But there's going to be a follow-up. Go against, you know, kind of like what the call was or anything. Did it work in practice? So he said we did this in practice. And smart guy,

Hall of Fame reporter Tony Grosie is going to follow up on this. Or anything. Did it work in practice? No, we just called in the game and it didn't work in practice. I don't think you called plays in a game that didn't work in practice. I don't think you called plays in a game that didn't work in practice. practice. I thought it was kind of funny.

I like that. It's great. No. We just called it. We kept fumbling it. No one knew what they were just running around. We figured, yeah, it'll work like the eighth time will work if we just try it during the game. It's going to click.

That was weird, though, that Judkins seemed to not know he was supposed to hand the ball off and then remember it like a full second and a half late. Do you see it? No. It was very, very weird. Yeah. The Colts are now. a mess we all I think it was right when they traded for sauce gardener that things went downhill Daniel Jones now has a torn Achilles last week they said Daniel Jones was playing like with a

fractured leg or something yeah but then he kept sending him out there so certainly the torn Achilles couldn't have been related to that you're you know well it's a totally different part of the body but and then um yeah this was chappies like he was on them early, but now they're down to, I think. And was doing great until you guys hopped on. Until what? Until you and Jake hopped on the

Ursaid bandwagon. That's how it happens. Yeah, when I fell in love with the owner. Riley Lender is their quarterback. All right. Ripon is on their practice squad. And they still have to go

to Seattle at home against San Francisco, home Jacksonville, and then to Houston. Yeah, they're toast. I don't think they're winning any of those. They might be out of the playoffs. That's right. And finally, this regards one of our, a big pick regarding picks against the Soroy's this year. The Eagles game.

Danny really needs the Eagles to win tonight. Triple. And the Eagles have, I saw this on social media. One of their reporters put this on Twitter, what they have put in their locker room. Hopefully I'm not ball-sacked on this. Do you have that picture? They have. Air hockey?

What do we got? Ping-pong table? They put a big inflatable rabbit in the locker room. They said they wanted a good vibes bunny. And the offensive line told this reporter they called it a positivity rabbit. Right. So yes, we don't have air hockey. We don't have a ping pong table.

We just have a big inflatable rabbit that... That's funny. Apparently somebody had from Easter, because it says happy Easter. on it, and I don't know why else you would have a big inflatable rabbit. Great question. There might not be any... The only reason. Yeah.

Maybe if you owned a rabbit farm. Perhaps, yeah. You want to people on the street to see... Or if you were going to do some kind of a parade, and you were an animator of some sort. Mm-hmm. You know? So, positivity rabbit in here?

Yeah. So... We need that. So anyway, there's a little look around the NFL. and a look at college football. And thank you, T.C. Thank you guys. That's T.C. Fleming.

Seathing. Oh, God. After this Notre Dame situation. His fists were bald, that entire interview. All right. Wednesday will be the day we don't have a show on. We're going to record one Wednesday evening. Because we got stuff to do Thursday.

Yeah, I'm out Thursday. Oh, good. then it all works we got lawyer stuff brunic lawyer stuff got a lot of lawyers yeah what ended up happening with that whole court case

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Hey, Blake. Hey, dude. Yeah, this week in Brad and Babe. I've been doing this for a few weeks. Yeah. We were never allowed to play it before I love those guys Old friends from the road

Yeah Oh yeah Remember that story That is the furthest off air thing Then why bring it up Interesting that you would bring it up then Yeah Just a carrot

You know That'll never get discussed But if you ever run into Mike Out in the wild Where you tell somebody Yes Because that's the best time Like when we have sit-ins or something

And they'd be like Hey tell me the truth about this or that At the ticket And then I do Yeah absolutely I like it. It's fun. When you catch someone in person, give them a little behind-the-scenes info. They love it.

Yep. So we started doing this because this is not a broadcast of an NFL game. It's two guys like chit-chatting and near proximity of an NFL game. You'll get time and score every now and then. But really it's just about how can Brad address the fans and the hypocrisy going around the franchise? It's Babe trying to be the funniest man known to Earth. And so we picked up a couple of things And I have one in particular that I want to do

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Now, I interrupted your great intro for your Brad and Babe audio. Thank you. Sorry. Mike, Sham loves calling Brandon Aubrey our dear, dear friend, Butter. But it's just not, you know, here's butter. He really emphasizes it. Here's when Brandon attempted the 63 order. At the 47, this is 63.

You talk about confidence in your kicker. butter 63 snap kick on the way the kick is good it's buttery good

from 63 yards it is funny when he does it I don't know why I don't hate the nickname but he's good he's still doing this ball's just got to end up

in the end zone on this job that's all second and about five at the lion's 42. Back to throw. Good protection. Deep down the right side for Loyal alone. 15.10. Walk your puppy dog into the end zone. We just want to know what it means. What does it mean to walk your dog? And in this case, puppy dog. Is it when a role player scores, they get the puppies? I don't get it. It's when he's, there's no one around and he can walk as casually as if he were walking a dog into. Is that it?

Well, I'm pretty sure, yes. Like, that paints the picture of there's no one around, take the leisurely stroll into the end zone. A puppy's got a lot of energy, so maybe he was like yanking on the leash. I didn't quite understand that one. The other thing that... Yeah, walk the dogs. I never get it. My last, well, second to last Brad thing, he hates analytics and he hates the analytical world.

Every time the cowboys go for it on fourth down, what are we doing? It's 2025, I guess. We go for it on fourth down. and this spills over into like any time they you know there are certain situations where you need to go for it on fourth down there are certain situations you need to go for it on two or go for two but he is just a blanket across the board he hates it all including situations where it's obvious you need to go for two flanoy gave him a little stop move and the corner robbers have just bit boy and the cowboys are going to go for two that's 42 yards on the completion of flanoy do you like this Well, they're trying to cut it to a three-point game, right? Okay. So you kick.

Boy, we were making fun of who's the national broadcast? They were kind of questioning that at first. You kick to go down four or you go for two to try to make it a three-point game. Kind of seems like a layup. Let me check the supercomputer. I don't think you need a chart. Boy, that's amazing. Yeah.

And then my last Brad thing, we all love the Bobgazim. when he was watching soccer. We had a Bradgazim, or a... Flannoy in motion from left to right and the gun, Prescott. Back and fires it right. The defender fell down. That was a flag.

3520, another flag. This is coming back. Is this off a pass interference on the offense? I think they're going to get George Pickens here for OPI. Okay. All right. That's enough of Brad. The real star of the show.

show, Mike, is Babe Lofenberg. Love Babe Lofenberg. Great dude. Good dude. At the Jared charity event yesterday in his Indiana Letterman jacket. I heard they won yesterday. He's good when he provides analysis. When he provides analysis, most of the time, he just likes trying to be funny and make dad jokes.

At the line of scrimmage, Logan Wilson ran him down after a 14-yard gain. But, but, Mr. Hoculi? yeah i don't like the way they're walking no like the gate or where they're walking like when i watched myself defense number 97 was lined up yes yes no the yes the direction yeah uh another one

86 anthony ferkser gets his number called wasn't him for god's sake the guy went to harvard you think he doesn't know where to line up skipper again is eligible on first and 15 You mean he's single or? Steward? Geez. Wait, I miss. They just come one after another.

It was a two-for here. Yeah, let me. Part two. Let me just play it all again. Play the whole thing. Yeah, so we can hear him laugh at his own job. The guy went to Harvard. You think he doesn't know where to line up?

Skipper again is eligible on first and 15. You mean he's single or? Stewart. So the first one here. here um i picked up on for god's sake the guy went to harvard you think he doesn't know where to line up babe likes to deliver a punchline and then laugh at his joke and so i picked up on that about in the fourth quarter so i thought you know what i'm gonna go back and listen to the whole thing and pick up on when he does this um and i'm glad you're in studio mike because i got you

uh what we call a babe bear oh so here take it right here uh when you push his stomach he's gonna deliver a joke and then do a nice little chuckling noise. Garrett Wilson, Chris Alave, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, and Jameson Williams. They're all in Ohio State together. Okay. Dan, here's yours. Let's push his little tummy.

No, they're not. Well, they haven't even tried. Cowboys have tried. Okay. How many 330-pound men do you know? So, yeah, I trimmed down. I just lost 30. He always answered.

Brammy, I gave me some bad news. What else? May I? Yeah, sure. It's the two-popper or the three-bub? Right. Just always. That's how he ends. A pleasant little laugh punctuator.

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Here's Jane with the dumb zone news. News, news, news, news, news, news, news, news, news, news, news, news, news, news. Okay, thank you. You've got to settle for me today. leading off in the news is Tom Hicks passed away on Saturday. Oh, wow, I did not know that. The age of 79. Saw that.

Damn. And, of course, they're not going to rip them in this article. He said he saw the Rangers expand their infrastructure, moving the Frisco team, or the AA team to Frisco, state of the art facilities, TV network deals. But all I heard from my grandpa growing up was that he was a cheap bastard. So I don't really know what to believe. I think he was good, but I also do remember him getting booed at games. Is your grandpa Ranger Man? Is that where that comes from?

Not Stars, yeah? Rangers, yeah. It's weird how most owners are just so hated. Yeah. Like, not many owners I don't think are beloved. And he might be around here, right? Pretty high on the damn list. I don't know, Liverpool hated him, but I think he undercut them on some money and some deals.

But I don't know, he just seemed like a very vilified dude. well he would yes claim poverty as owner of the rangers they're a top five team or six at the worst market but they would never have that high of a payroll and then he would say something like well if the fans start to show up we'll start to spend more like he wanted to make more money first before spending more and it doesn't always work that way like you might have to invest in the team to then, you know, get more fans to come out because you've invested in a team and now they start winning.

It doesn't usually go the other way. And well, but with the stars, I remember he did, you know, before there was a salary cap, they were amongst the highest paid, you know, highest payrolls in the league, like when he went and acquired Brett Hall and whatnot. And that was when they won, right?

Yeah. I mean, he was the championship owner. Yeah. and let i was had the rangers when they at least made those world series run still right he hired john daniels but i think it uh he stepped away in like 2010 okay just before and he did the whole a rod thing that was he did the a rod thing and i think he did that and it didn't quite work out and he's like yeah see yeah see i tried also he was definitely you know jerry jones notoriously thick-skinned like even he said

says it. I like the drama. I like things going, I like things going awry. I like people ripping us. I like to hear sports radio talking about us because, you know, indifference is the worst thing. He likes fires to be lit. It was back when they were, I think there was like a Texas monthly article talking about like is Tom Hicks broke and he was on the cartoon Tom Hicks on the cover, you know, pulling his pockets out or something. because there was always stories about Tom Hicks and his money. And, like, he lived near the tollway, and they paid like $20 million for a fence to block the noise from the tollway, which seems like a lot of money, especially when you're like, I can't, you know, pay more for Rangers players. And we were talking about that and kind of criticizing Tom Hicks. And we ended up, we, Bob and Dan, many years ago,

ended up being summoned to Arlington. And I'm trying to remember his right-hand man. It was like the team president called us into their office and talked to us about how wrong we were in criticizing Tom Hicks. And like it was basically a little spanking. Like a slap in the, like you were there so that they could yell at you? Yeah.

Not to correct to you and create a better relationship moving forward, right? It was yelling It was a correcting yelling And then it was But it just It was clearly from Tom Hitt Like Yeah

Like he didn't He didn't enjoy the criticism So he wasn't there To your knowledge He was on the other side Of the rotating bookshelf He was out there Yeah

Yeah There was a mirroed wall Yeah okay With him just tapping his foot And how did Bob and Dan take that? Huh I thought it was cool That we got

Called in like whoa they care what we say awesome and did you stop criticizing yeah do you change your tune yeah I mean the guy had a lot of things going on you know it's misunderstood

they first they handed us a big giant pile of money yeah I was hoping for it I'll change my opinion tomorrow slide over a piece of paper with a number written on it yeah Jake is right it's hard doing the news

we got a shooting woman found dead shooting at the Hewlin mall We have a stabbing News is sad this time of year So Malls, people get fired up at a mall So I found this

And this could be a picks payoff With Mike Soroy here with us Oscar Meyer is looking for Wiener Mobile drivers Ooh I think I remember this A couple years ago I remember this a couple years

I think they put the hot dog signal In the sky every couple years Yeah And then you're about to read Like the benefits right? Yep Yeah, please do, because it's fun. Yeah.

Oscar Myers looking for hot doggers to get behind the wheel of the Wiener Mobile. We're not eligible. It's for college graduates or recent college graduates. But yeah, you drive this Wiener Mobile across 30 states across the country, hundreds of events for the year. And I did think this part was funny. The Hot Dogger program began in 1988. It was designed to develop top talent and inspire future leaders.

who embody innovation, creativity, and community spirit by driving a hot dog around. If you're a college, recent college grad, nothing planned for the summer? Yeah, I think I'd... It's a free car? You don't have to wrap your car, do you? No, no, no, no.

Turn your car, no. Put a big, yeah, weiner on top of it. I think they have six active weiner mobiles. Really? In the U.S., yeah. So when people reach out to get an internship here, should I just turn them to be a hot dogger? Send them that link.

Yeah, we're full, but... I'm just joining a promo team and spend it in a summer. Yeah. I see ads for, like, join ICE. Yeah. Could you do both of these things? I consider that as a bet payoff. At the same time, though?

I was thinking... Could you be in ice, but you drive your hot dog mobile up to... Oh, the perfect cover? Up to the... Then the immigrants just run. run to you because they want delicious hot dogs. Yeah. Think about it.

I will. I was thinking as disorganized as they say it is, like, could I join and get the money and just kind of never show up? Never do anything? This is your goal in all of life, right? Well, they say they started 50K. To get money and not do, but I'm just saying. I need 50K. The happiest I ever saw you was the year after the freak let you guys go.

Who on earth wouldn't be happy? I'm just saying you might have also said, you know, I'll now work also and then double I'll take all the money. But you said, no, I'm not going to work at all. That's great. And you're hoping, like, you want to get a job with ice so that you can see if you can not work at all. Yeah, not show up.

Because then I'm taking money. Like, they're going to know if you're not driving that hot dog mobile around. Yeah, they get odometer. And how are they going to prove if you didn't go to work? Everybody's got a mask. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. Or just kind of.

show, yeah, I'll check over here. And I'll just go right back to my house. Xbox, fired up. Do they have one of those scanners on their face, like Squid Game to scan to see, have you watched Squid Game? They scan that face to see who's under there? Oh, yeah. To see who's under the mask, yeah. I doubt it.

Did your golf game get better in the year? No. Caller Duty? Like, what did you improve? I'm worse at everything than I was two years ago. I didn't prove anything. I was busy taking care of my mother who needed my help. And it was fortuitous that I had a little bit.

of income. Forksfield raised to help support me as I supported my sweet mom. How about spending that? Who's doing well here in Dallas? We officially got duped because on December 9th, which is tomorrow, the chili skillet queso is officially back. Yep. In restaurants.

In October, they teased it. They said, we tried to kill it, but you love the skillet. And then they announced this week that officially Tuesday will be the day the skillet casso is back. and I think we called it from the very beginning. What did you call? Do you think that this was a big farce? Yeah, it was not a farce.

Odd as it is, I... Go ahead. I know someone very close, pretty close, that it was directly involved in the decision-making from Chili's and the decision to get rid of it and to bring it back. And I really won't go into too much detail because it is a good friend of mine, but I will say it was 100% not a farce.

Mani Diaz? No, it was Duke Coach Mani Diaz. It was not a farce. Someone didn't like the skillet caseo, didn't think it was representative of like a good quality casso and wanted to change it. And then I think they handled

the social media angle pretty well because they... Today they're giving away 450 of hats that said, I survived the chili skillet caseo. Right. Which is pretty fairly well handled because he knows you're going to be blowback

for anything. But they're just making a big show of it. Well, that's what you're supposed to do. I know, but it's just upsetting. That's what we're supposed to do with our show. We're supposed to, I should be bidding on the invasion. Yes. And I'm not, we're not doing it right.

Chili's is doing it right. They made a mistake. And now they're like, well, let's. Yeah, the reaction was louder than they expected. Right. The original idea was, this is going to be great. We're going to move into the future with this new caseo, and everybody's going to love it. They're going to have a parade for us.

But everybody's shit on it. Then they can come around. Like, this is actually now better than... Right, plus... That's why there are people, conspiracy theorist, like, you know... Yeah. Clayton, who say this is a farce from the beginning. They can say, we heard you, we listened, Chili's...

We care about you. ...the people. And the other thing is, I like the skill at Casso. Fine. I haven't had it in 15 years, right? But since all this shit happened, it's been on my mind more. Like you're going to be over there? Yeah, I'm like, I kind of want to...

eat the damn skill of queso. Well, I'm mad at Chili's. No, I'm still mad at them because why get rid of the best thing you have on the menu in the beginning? It's like you saw what Cracker Barrel did and you were just going to be like, oh, okay, yeah, let's hold my beer Cracker Barrel. I'm going to screw up my marketing for the next. Well, I assure you that's not what that was not their intent.

Okay, Insider, Mike. I am telling you. I understand that. I'm talking from the consumer. Yeah. Boots on the ground. Yeah. I don't understand that.

Deep throat. let's see oh FedEx and USPS has released the dates that you need to ship your gifts if they're going to arrive by Christmas FedEx December 15th and USPS December 17th which reminds me that I should probably Christmas shop yeah and I go through the same cycle every year where on December 25th I see how all my family members have done really well for me they put thought and effort in their gifts and I have completely given up I didn't put in any effort because it got away for me and I decide in that moment you know what next year is going to be different

I'm going to make a list I'm going to write down ideas throughout the entire year and I'm going to do better next Christmas and here I am next Christmas haven't done a damn thing yet well it's December 8th Blake you have time you still have time

I do have time but now I don't have energy and I don't want to too much trampoline jumping this weekend yeah I guess so bouncing around you can still do this I'll do it with you

okay let's not do it together all right so we hit on this a couple weeks ago the legend bay situation the quarterback at north forney is a four-star recruit he can go wherever he wants legend wants to go to ohio state his mom wants him to go to tennessee and it's being speculated that the mom may have gotten an under the table amount of money to get his kid to go to tennessee and basically forced his letter of intent to go to Tennessee. Well, Legend wants to go to Ohio State,

and so there's been this battle between him and his mother, and basically, Legend is waiting until his 18th birthday when he can officially make the decision as an adult to go to Ohio State. Does Mom have to pay the Tennessee money back? No. Does she?

He didn't go there. Yeah, did they send the money yet? What's his name? Legend Bay. Legend Bay. Be Y. Yes. Boy, that's all just so funny.

And I hate being old man, but this N-I-L, whatever. It does make it weird, though. Yeah, if you get... So he says, I'm going to wait until I'm 18, and then she doesn't have a mode. Mother may have forged his signature. Yeah. Forced, forge, whatever. The kid didn't want to go to Tennessee.

But here we are in this new era. But yeah, he's... It's going to wait it out. When does he turn 18? In a few weeks. I would like everyone to give my mom the utmost respect. I turn 18 and 20 days, so it most likely will be go bucks.

What a little high school football drama. And then we'll end with this, because this was a big deal over the weekend, where Netflix agreed to buy Warner Brothers for $83 billion. huge which to me just this is the beginning of the end for movie theaters and didn't Netflix man basically say that like a PR catered release where he's like look the consumers have shown they enjoy watching movies at home which basically says yeah we're going to short run movies in theaters if at all

and is that bad I don't want a movie theater like I get it I like the idea that theaters, it's a nostalgia, and it is a fun night out. And sure, you guys are tens of thousands of businesses, some of them small, all over America. Fine. But who doesn't like it on their couch and watching a shit-hot movie that just came out? It's a weird thing because the homes have built themselves into you can have a huge TV and it's real comfortable. Great sound. Not paying way too much for your snacks and whatnot.

And you're not paying way too much for that movie, you know? Netflix a month costs what one movie cost, right? Right. For now. Yeah, they'll crank it. It's going to go up. I mean, in a part of the steel, yeah, they get the Warner Brothers, obviously, into perpetuity, but they get all of their intellectual property for the last 100 years.

So all the movies, and then I think I heard that they have friends and all these sitcoms, I mean, this is going to be a huge, huge deal if Netflix lands it. can the frog come back that i don't know the frog on the wb yeah so this is upset a lot of people including in politics trump is going to insert himself here but the people in the know say this is a bipartisan thing where it's an antitrust it's a monopoly thing so it's looking like it won't happen oh and here recently i think either today or yesterday paramount has come in in a term

that I have not seen before has placed a hostile bid of $108 billion on Warner Bros. Or Warner Brothers. Well,

wouldn't that do the same thing? I think Paramount is still a A movie studio? I know, but they're the own app too. Monopoly is monopoly though. If you make it a monopoly to keep them in the movie theaters. Isn't that the same?

And Paramount is pushing the shit out of their app. I mean, do the same thing. They dream of being like... I forgot to mention... Warner Brothers also has HBO Max and everything that comes with that.

So it would be a huge deal. So yeah, Paramount came in... They can rename that again. Yes. And here's like some follow-the-money Easter basket stuff that people are connecting. Trump comes in and says, this could be an antitrust thing.

Democrats say it's a monopoly thing. Paramount comes in. Paramount was recently bought by Skydance, whose CEO is David Ellison, whose dad is close friends with Donald Trump. Politics get involved in like, okay, who else can overbid these people to stop this from happening? Yeah, I don't know. This is why it's Easter baskets. But I don't know.

As a teenager, like the movie theater, yeah, very nostalgic, very easy place to, yeah you're right go overpay but you can put your hand on her leg in the dark you know i just don't like going anywhere now but i do love the movie theater i mean watching a movie like isn't even when i took my kids like to something like they would do a showing of back to the future at the grapevine theater it's just way different than when you watch it at at home on a tv i agree Like, and part of it probably is you have to kind of turn off your phone and stuff, and you're just locked into that. Whereas you can pause. I mean, that's what I do love about being a home, the fact that you can pause.

Or I could watch a half hour of a movie, but you're there. It's an event. So I don't think it'll die, die. It won't die, die. It'll still be a call for the movies that are made, like, specifically for IMAX, the 3D experience. but I just I think like your normal box office movie might not well who owns like AMs like by taking that side are we just fighting for another massive that's all it is conglomerate they're like no they need to stay in business like and they get away with it by getting us to yell the theaters at a special experience we can't let that let that die what about the mom and pop yeah is there a mom and pop theater chain owner yeah I'm sure they're Texas theater yeah right on Jefferson Good dudes

What do they show there? Generally like Second Run type movies I think Uh huh And then they are like movie nights For just like you said Like back to the future night and stuff It's awesome by the way

I love it Yeah I love when the Alamo was there Yeah we just went and watch Clerks Christina had never seen No no I'm sorry dogma We watched Dogma The Kevin Smith thing

They had a night where she'd never seen it I'm like let's go to the damn movie theater And check it out So that's gonna live theaters are not gonna die but, like, you're arguing against the massive conglomerate theaters. Like, I don't really care of that. And, yeah, kids, like, Dan's daughters or whoever that didn't grow up at the movie theater

are going to think, yeah, I'd rather watch this movie at home. Right. There's nothing tied to that. Like, I'm psyched to watch the new, what's the Benoit Blanc French Onion? Glass Onion. That's a movie? I don't know what you're saying. The whole series.

The murder freaking with Daniel Craig in it. You know, the murder mystery. Oh, okay, yeah. Glass onion, just the name of the second one? Yeah, it's like the name of the series. What's in with that? There's your news. Cool.

Oh. Knives out. Knives out. Knives out. Yeah, that makes sense. French onion. Glass onion was the second movie. Oh, okay.

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So I have a couple here. We have Deer Labia Lapper. Day 1, D.F and subby number 96 here, asking for a Dirk plus Pudge birthday shoutout for my buddy Adam. He's proud D.F. number 131. He's always been slow twitch. His athletic resume includes breaking his hip in a flag football game and being on the 1993 Diamond Hill High School team

that had its season canceled after losing their first three games by a collective score, Diamond Hill High School, baseball, oh wait, football. They lost their first three games by a combined score of 167 to zero. And they canceled it. And then 17 players skipped game four for the starting quarterback's bachelor party. Whoa.

He also advises less fantasy football talk. It's almost over. From Deep Dish Jeff in Chicago. Yeah, fantasy is over for me now. I lost my playoff game this week. Oh, no. I'm pending tonight. Stress.

Yeah, I don't care about it at all. I got O'Mair and Hampton, hopefully coming back. I was in the trenches with you. Yeah. Waiting. Waiting. Did we make it? Why not tonight?

Oddly enough, all I care about is picks on the show, and that's the thing I'm worst at. Yeah. But I don't, like, I wish I got zero fancy points all year long if I just would do good. You had a decent, didn't have a, you didn't. It's a nice little weekend. Better than the last two. The 1-19 streak is over. The 1-19 is over.

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Game day. dot dumbzone.com is a big key. We have Monday, December 8th. That's today. And on this day in 1941, this is the day that the United States entered World War II, Congress declared war against Imperial Japan. One day after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Is that when we had a boot in our ass? Or we're going to put a boot in some of his ass?

We were put a boot somewhere. Yes. Eventually. It took a little while. On this day in 1980, John Lennon, who's he, Blake? A beetle?

He was a beetle. He was shot to death outside his New York City apartment building. and so I've always known this existed and I went and searched for it this morning Howard CoSell would announce this to the world on Monday night football it happened on Monday night football and I found a clip this morning

it was kind of choppy and it appeared like it was right before a field goal or something but I just thought it was weird the placement of it and I thought man I wish I had more of this game. So I did search and found the entire broadcast. You could see the entire

broadcast. So this particular broadcast, who knows what market it was recorded in on VHS whatever in 1980. But so I'm watching it, two minutes before he comes on and says this announcement, it's on the scroll.

They had a real elementary scroll a couple of misspellings. Really? A couple of spaces in between letters. But apparently they had a, the scroll technology was kind of available. They didn't put anything on the screen during the game, like the time or the score. That would never come to your TV until like the 90s when I think Fox got into the broadcasting game.

Is that right? They never had a scorebug. So there was a scroll that said former Beatle John Lennon, as has been. shot and killed. So two minutes later, it's the end of the game. It's the dolphins playing the Patriots. The dolphins are winning.

Or excuse me. The dolphins came back and tied this game up. And the Patriots are driving. And here, let me pause this music. for a second and I want to take you to the Monday night broadcast the Patriots are driving the clock is ticking down and we haven't announced this yet apparently though they get the info in the booth so they have this piece of paper in front of them that says what happened and they're going to tie like I just found this fascinating to listen to so tell me if you agree let's just

here, the clock is ticking down. Warman, goals ahead to the 20. Now we're looking at a 37-yard field goals. So they're driving down. No man can kick at 37. There's a lot of talk because this field goal kicker had kicked four field goals on the day. His long for his career is 44. But it's like they are watching fire for the first time because this guy has four field

goals on the day. He's also a left-footed kicker. Extreme soccer-like side. I watched a couple of his kicks during the game. He looks crazy. It doesn't even look like a kicker. But anyway, so yeah, now they're

driving. It was like they were really worried. It was going to be a 43-yard field goal, and now they're moving ahead a little bit. Now we're looking at a 37-yard field goal. It's been a dramatic ball game, but it's suddenly been placed in total perspective for us.

I'll finish this. They're in the hurry up office. No, you can't tease that. So he's obviously got this news in front of him now. But they're driving. The clock is ticking down and they're trying to set up a game-winning field goal. I'll finish this. They're in the hurry up offense.

Third down four. Foreman. It'll be fourth down. What happened? Kavanaugh will let it run down for one final attempt. He'll let the seconds tick off to give Miami no opportunity whatsoever. Timeout is called. Three seconds remaining.

John Smith is on the line. And I don't care what's on the line. Okay. So you got to understand this, too. We're locked into this. The time is ticking down three seconds, bang a timeout. this is going to be the last play. I mean, it's a tie game.

So if he makes this, this is the last play of the game. But I mean, such drama, but also now we know that Howard has this piece of paper in his hand. Three seconds remaining. John Smith is on the line. And I don't care what's on the line. Howard, you have got to say what we know in the boot. Yes, we have to say it. Remember, this is just a football game.

No matter who wins or loses. unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC News in New York City. John Lennon, outside of his apartment building on the west side of New York City, the most famous, perhaps, of all of the Beatles, shot twice in the back, rushed to Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival. Hard to go back to the game after that news flash, which in duty found we had to tell. Frank. Indeed it is.

Three seconds remain. Now we're going to go right back to the game. She's back to it. We're going to go right back to the game. Indeed it is. Three seconds remain. John Smith is on. The holder is Kavanaugh.

Any pressure on John Smith here? It has been blocked. And we will go to overtime. And we will not mention this again. So, like, what an odd, like, we're duty-bound to do it. Let's just say you're watching this. Yeah. And the Beatles are a pretty big deal, right?

It's 1980. Now we're, what, 10 years after their breakup, not even that, perhaps? When they break up, 71 or so. But they were big in 60. I'm just saying they're still a fairly fresh to many minds, I'm sure. Somebody like my mom is really fired up because she was a, you know, teenager during the Beatles run. Everyone gets their news on the network news.

So who handled that importantly? There's no Twitter. He's the only one that knows it. I bet he wishes we got this in the second quarter. That would have been nicer. but if you're just getting the news, holy shit. Oh, shit. During the time out before the game-winning field goal attempt.

Yeah. You got to wait. You think you wait? You got to wait. After the game's going to be over soon anyway? If the game is over, we have some breaking news. We'll send you to do your local affiliates with it. If you're going overtime, you've got some time to talk about it.

You don't do it right before the field goal. How many people are really shook because they just saw this? And they ran it on the scroll. He said a minute before them. Right. If you weren't looking. Some people know. Which could have been a local thing.

Like the local... Definitely was a local thing. Okay. So... It seemed like the local... Their national broadcast had not announced it yet. In no way. I had a very weird time.

He loved the enunciation of that. Dead. Dead on arrival. Right. Just also the... Just announce the news? He perhaps the most famous beetle of all... Of all of them?

Okay, well, there's only four. He definitely strung it out. And clearly there's two that are the most famous. Look it's on ripping Howard Coast sell. Who delivered it fine. He didn't. Yes, he did. And you're like, Dad, ought to arrive.

He loved being the man to tell you that. And I can tell. I get that. Else were on May, excuse me, December 8th. Dolphins won that game in overtime, by the way. Oh, right. Go Finn. 1613 final.

Ui von Schauman with the winning kick. Is that the undefeated year? 1980, no. 72. On this day in 1987, and Ron Hextall became the first goalie to score a goal. I would have thought it was before that, just with all the empty nets and guys just clearing it out.

On this day in 2007, Tim Tebow became the first sophomore to win the Heisman Trophy. Hell yes. He beat out the same guy who had, he was the first player since 1949 to finish second two seasons in a row. Who was it? Future Cowboy. Quincy Carter. Arkansas running back. Felix.

Oh, Felix Jones. Darren McFadder. The other Arkansas running back. Nobody was talking about Felix Jones as a Heisman. I don't know. No. On this day in 2012, police charged Cowboys' Defensive lineman Josh Brent with intoxication manslaughter. After flipping his car in a pre-dawn accident that killed teammate Jerry Brown,

That's funny to call it a pre-dawn accident. I would call it a very late night, wouldn't you? Yeah. Like he was up early. Pre-da-old. Just up early, going to get him. And on this day in 2012, the first freshman to win the Heisman. Mansell.

Johnny Manzell. Second? Mantai. Oh, man. One famous wedding on this date. We're going to play guest, age of the bride. On this day in 1872,

Brigham Young married his 55th and final wife. 55. He was 71. How old was his wife? Hannah Tapfield.

18. I'll say five. Actually. Am I close? Who's closer? Blake's closer. She was 64 years old, and he was 71. The upset of the year.

Wow. Big upset there. 55th and final bride. That's right. Oh, so he just all at the same time. So he stayed married to all of them. Yeah, man, he's Brigham Young. Brigham Young, whatever.

And on this day in Dumb Zone history, December 8th. Only one thing from 12. And that was an actual change because normally we read your wife gets mad at you, Dan. But Dan's wife was mad at Jake for not double flushing the downstairs toilet. Just single flushed it and... Residivist things behind. Flushed as you go. That's what I say. Other birthdays today, we have Vernon Wells is 47.

Local guy? Incredible artist. Uh, that's his dad. That's what I thought you're talking about. No. 47-year-old Vernon Wells is the Major League Baseball player. Philip Rivers is 44. He's probably a good artist, too.

A bunch of kids. How many? Double-didge? 12? Dwight Howard is 40. He doesn't have kids the way he likes to do sex. We were talking about him the other day. Like, do you remember when he, somebody was like, yeah, hey man, it says,

somebody was saying that like they've had sex with you like dudes and all this kind of stuff and soiling your up he's like yeah just download stuff man yeah it's all good

I support him so do I but I just find it odd that that just happened you're right people just okay Dwight Howard he did that whatever like what have you heard that about Shaq

he'd be like whoa what 10 kids were Philppers Jeff George is 58 Mike Mucina F 57 Josh Donaldson 40 What's wrong with him? Blue Jays?

Yeah Barry Foster is 57 Very hateable Running back Running back Former Steeler And I think he lives here Not at the Game Day

Men's Health studio But I think he lives in DFW somewhere Like we had him on in the early 2000s And Like he was selling his own hot sauce or something Look up Barry Foster hot sauce or don't

I don't really care I'm curious actor Dominic Monaghan is 49 he was on Lost Oh yeah okay Yeah he's the dude who's in the rock band on Lost Torch Torch blade or something

Another lost guy is Ian Summerhalder Is 48 Yeah handsome man You know who he is? Yeah he was the brother of the hot girl on lost Who they were on for like two episodes Right didn't the internet then hate them

No they were I don't know I don't know. They run for a while. Okay. Well, you really know the lost cast members. Yeah. I would have never thought you had Ian Summerholder. We have Wendell Pierce is 62 from the wire.

Terry Hatcher is 61. Ah, beautiful Terry Hatcher. Still probably hot as hell. Desperate Housewives. Kim Bassinger is 72. Shnade O'Connor is 59. Rest in power, young queen. Oh, is she dead?

Yeah, she died a couple years ago. let's hold that she was trying to shave her head and she accidentally shaved her entire head off that's how she went and dumb zone birthday of the day Nikki Minaj is 43

not just for her rap on Monster but for this tweet during when she said my cousin in Trinidad won't get the vaccine because his friend got it and became impotent. His testicles became swollen.

His friend was weeks away from getting married. Now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it and make sure you're comfortable with your decision, not bullied. Damn. Okay. He needs some erectile optimization, it sounds like. Is that what they called it, game day? That's what they do.

And then we have born in this day now dead, Chenate O'Connor Hmm Died in a weird circumstance This is the day she was born Jim Morrison And Sam Kinnison This is their birthday

We had a cassette tape Of Sam Kinnison's comedy Me and Cash did And we were kids We kind of hit it And then we left it at my dad's Astrovan And we all got in the car together He pressed play on it

And my dad heard about 10 seconds of the language and comedy songs of Sam Kinnison and he just hit Eject and chucked it out the window. Oh! One move, without saying a word. That's not cool. Dead on this day, still dead. A lot of music. Music deaths on this day. It's such an old bad thing to do.

It was kind of cool, too. It's awesome. All right. Still got the case. Jokes on you. Music deaths on this day. John Lennon. Mm-hmm. Dimebag Daryl. Oh, damn. Was the guy who killed him?

Was he doing it because John Lennon died on that day? I wonder if... Because John Lennon was assassinated, Dimebag Dary was assassinated. He was doing a cover assassination? Maybe. A copycat. My favorite story about Dimebag, the death at least, if you can have a favorite story, is that Donovan at that time...

That's right. Our good friend Donovan was working at The Bone, and they called him the Bone Brother. And he didn't like, he hated classic rock. He wasn't into any of the music. He was like Snoop. We went to a Paul McCartney concert together, Donovan and I, and he knew two songs. And all he was playing was Beatles songs, like that everybody's heard a thousand times. He knew two of them, and it was because, like, one was covered by earthwind and fire.

And, like, it was just covers. Anyway, he said, so he's working at the bone, and that he got to, he has to get up at, you know, 5 a.m. to get in for the, maybe even 4.30, whatever, to get in on time for the morning show. He says he's woken up at 3 a.m. a call from the program director. Wakes him up in the middle of night, and he says, it's Scott Strong, he says, Donovan. Yeah? I just wanted to let you know Dimebag Daryl died tonight Don was like

Okay He's like just wanted you know before you came in That you're just saying you know Get your head right, get your head right And he hung up and went right back to sleep How long till he was sleeping? I also died on this day in 2019, Juice World Oh

I thought we just did that He was his birthday And so close to his birthday on this day At least he got to celebrate his birthday It's 21st birthday He probably drank some alcohol Man

Well thank you Mike Soroy A ton of fun Thank you for having me Since you've expended so much energy today Should I assume you're not going to be on Cirque to Soroy tomorrow night No we will do Cirque to Soroy Tuesday and Thursday this week

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