The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 2-18-26 | Kyle Tucker's impact on a salary cap for baseball - Day 3 at Brewers Spring Training

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

Brewers Spring Training coverage made free by Qualis Roofing and Silverback Construction!We're so baseball from Spring Training. Tony Clark steps down from the players' union over an inappropriate relationship with his sister-in-law, which begs the question, brother's wife or wife's sister? The rich get richer after the Dodgers sign Kyle Tucker making fans want a salary cap. And more travel stories from The Dumb Zone on the road from Brewers Spring Training (00:00) - Open: Live from Brewers Spring Training (17:11) - Sports: Which sister-in-law was it? (30:50) - Kyle Tucker's contract's impact on baseball (58:20) - Big (Wednesday) Viewer Mail Bag (01:32:29) - News: Everything is pedophilia now (01:56:37) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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I'm not talking for your dirty mind is taking us to. This is the dumb zone. We're in Phoenix. We're at Brewers Spring Training. I'm Dan McEwell. I'm Jay Kemp. I'm Blake Jones. Nance is definitely thrust into the theme of the Masters, right?

No, he's made sweet, tender love. Yeah, sure. To his toast. Nance style. But some talk show host has definitely humped to his own theme, right? I wonder. Or TV star or something. George?

Definitely like that's Sajette. Okay, yeah. You'd have to think. What if you're like Dennis Franz, do you put on the NYPD Blue theme? I don't know. But back to your original point, it is a pump and tune.

I was thinking we don't really know who we could ask, we can actually ask VJ Boyd. Has he ever fired up one of his shows? Has he ever Netflix and chilled to his own Netflix? Yeah. with himself. Anyway, we are at Milwaukee Brewers Spring Training. It's so great to be here, man.

It is a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. Baseball's happening. The air feels nice. Birds are chirping. Pigeons. In the case of our home. I've gotten to know the pigeons out back.

Oh, at our Airbnb? Yeah. So we're not in, I don't know, I was thinking about, the Airbnb. And what you would call, like, many are saying to me, Dan, McDowell, where are you staying? Like, you describe the neighborhood. I would describe it as a one word, barrio. No.

No? Not quite. It feels barrio. T.C. says yes. It's giving. It's giving bario. He's married to a Mexican person. I've walked all around the neighborhood.

Yeah. I'm trying to get some steps in. and I've noticed there seems to be a severe lack of concern over winning yard of the month. There does not seem to be a... It's like going out for bobsled in America. The spot is available if you want to become the top yard. Yeah, you move your mom into this neighborhood. Oh, domination.

And blue ribbons and trophies everywhere. Yeah, T.C. and I were talking about it a little bit last night. I don't know. This, I do associate the structures with Barrio. And it's the, uh, it's the outside of the neighborhood that's concreted in. But even the nice neighborhoods here have that, though. Like if you go to a nice suburb, even they have that. But I don't like it because it does feel like you're kind of, kind of locked in there a little bit.

But Barrio, we're not like in danger, I guess is what I'm saying. Okay. I don't think. A lot of dogs. A lot of, like. I'm just keeping my dog outside. Yeah. Just to let this guy walking by know that he's not in danger.

Like, these are big, these are the type of dogs that are indicative of don't, do not come behind this. There's no toy. I haven't seen a toy poodle. No, I have seen a few chihuahuas if you want to lean small, but no toy poodles. But the pizza yesterday, we ate at a great pizza place. Great place. What was it called? Pizzeria Bianco.

Is that right, T.C.? I would say it's as close to Cane Roso as you can get. I would imagine. Without being quite as good as Conne Roso. I would imagine Jay has an opinion. It's a place that you'll see on, it's a place to see and be seen type on the food TV channels. Okay.

We got right in. Yeah. And right out. You know why? Because there were no women there. Order. It's remarkable how quick you can get in and out of a restaurant. You guys ready to order?

Yeah. Group of freaking black. Blackoff's Navy Seals. We looked at this menu and immediately to the point where we're supposed to be. Right. Have the car outside in five minutes. They did seem to have some harsh rules. Yeah, that was a bit of a...

We weren't sure of Matthew, our friend from the Brewers. Is Matthew or Matt? I've heard some people go cash with you and I just don't feel comfortable with it. Oh, okay. Well, Matt, our friend with the brewers. Can I tell you this is... We weren't sure if he was going to show up or not. So we're like, uh, seven.

Oh, is your whole party here? Uh, no. Well, okay, we can't see you until then. Um, okay, well, then six. Yeah. And we're just like, we're not sure if he's going to show up. Well, we only allow one round of ordering. Wait, what?

So if he shows up in 10 minutes, you can't then order another pizza. That's right. Okay. And so then when we were all done eating and before she brought the check, she said, do you want any dessert? And I told her the rule. We are not. He did. I'm sorry. I didn't catch that. He did. We were not allowed to order. He did. Yeah, I mean, you get it, but it was a little bit. This is how good we are.

Yeah. You don't want somebody holding up a table forever. We sat right down and there was a million tables. There's still a million tables open, but they had to keep this facade up. if there's double-lined it. Yeah. Is that why I never got a refill? Only one-rounded drinks, too? I do not believe I had a refill either. Oh.

Yeah. We're batting, we have a low-ops on refills on this trip in general. Last night, T.C. Clayton, myself, we took a treats journey. We drove, like, 20 minutes for dessert at like 9.30 last night. Just took a little drive together. A listener had alerted me to an ice cream place. Called? Novel.

And they have a truck, I think, downtown, but they also have one over, where will we buy some campus, I think, T.C. I think I keep hearing a truck in our neighborhood. Ice cream truck? Yeah. Clayton's been trying to track it down. Oh, 5 o'clock? Clayton's going to be running out there? Well, I don't know about.

Running. Novel, their move, is they put ice cream. Between donuts. Oh, okay, so it's more of a health food type. Yeah, yeah, yeah, vegan. But we made the trip, and, you know, I was worried, because I would do that on my own, no problem. But immediately, T.C. is like, this was a great decision.

Let's come back tomorrow. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Would you guys be in for one that's earlier? Although, you don't have to go with me. I'm happy to Joe Flacco it. It's like we all celebrate Joe Flacco.

and cheer for it and then when we're together we're like oh we can't Joe Flacco Well I mean that's true But the difference is Is that your life is Joe Flacco And that you have a lot of time To chill on your own

We don't know what I do You know I don't You have no idea what I do When I leave That's a good point So we're at the midway point in our journey Thereabouts And that's what I felt yesterday

as we're sitting in the, you know, everybody's kind of getting their stuff ready for what are we going to do this evening. And, like, we had to run the dishwasher. We've used enough dishes that it's like, all right, let's run the dishwasher now, and then we'll be good for the whole journey, you know. Now we can just fill it and we'll never have to run it again. I noticed some guys are doing laundry already, like make sure I get enough to get me to the finish line. Yeah, the older I've gotten, the more I've begun to favor, pack less, do long. I guess it's probably just when the Airbnb took over, but yeah, I'll just wash it every day. Why not?

Hey, Grim, grab the mic. Run it back. I do have one comment that I want to make sure. I don't want to sidetrack you too much, but I've noticed it at your house. I've never brought it up to you. I assume I know the reason, but the leaving the dishwasher open at all times. Is that just a dryout thing? It's just this morning, yeah.

It's not all times. Well, like at your house. Yeah, it's a dryout thing. Okay. I did it today for us. I do the same thing. Okay. I'd never seen anybody, but I'd also never seen anybody have two separate blankets.

These are the new crappy dishwashers that the world has told us are energy efficient. Like the old one had the heating coil in the bottom. And if you drop something, it'd be like, ah, just burned your glass or whatever. It ruined your cup. Melt your spatula. Yeah. Now they don't. It's energy efficient, which means it doesn't really dry it and it barely washes it.

It's woke. But it's also on for two hours and 40 minutes. It is. So I don't get it. It is. My old, anyway, I'm not doing my stay on washing machines. I just, I don't mind it. I just, as a clumsy person.

You walk into that. Well, I only did it this morning. It's okay. I just, I'm trying to get it to your mind. And you know me, I emptied it for you. I saw you do that. Yeah. Which was it, what?

Who do we kill? What? Zach Brath's mom? He said it's the plot of Garden State. He's still going. He's still going. I thought we just had a... This on the heels of the swamp cooling units.

So other talk... More on that in viewer mail. A lot more. A lot, unfortunately. Talk had begun, too, that I'm the fly on the wall for of the guys who drove and their exit strategy. And Matt Grimm is the kind of guy he plans shit out.

He's going to know a few days in advance. Like what is exactly the plan? And I mean, he knows how to deal with me. He's got to plant an idea and make it seem like it's mine in the end. I know his game. And if he wants to leave. He's all sly. It's sentient.

If he wants to leave at a certain time, he shoots the under. Yeah. So that you hope to meet in the middle where he wants to leave. But I think he's just learning how to deal with TC and Clayton because everything he throws out, those guys are like absolutely. You want to leave right now? Let's go. They'll just throw all their stuff in the car.

They are very... That's good to know. Which they should be. Because he's... One of my least favorite things in life is not knowing when you're exerting pressure on people. You know, it's just the basic curb vibe, I get. Like, is this an imposition on you or not? Yeah.

And, like, we wanted to go to a show Thursday night. Nick Offerman in Phoenix. who the more I say his name out loud sounds like an outfielder to me. Oh, yeah. We're definitely sure Nick Offerman is the... I don't think he's ready. I feel like put him down in AAA, let's just make sure he's, you know. So, but that would require you guys staying ostensibly until Friday morning when in our trips

and years past, you've left basically right away whenever we were done with the show on the last day. From what I overheard last night. You're sort of splitting the difference. Yes. And I don't want that to be because I brought this show. You're going? Those guys are going to go. Clayton and EC are going to go to the show.

And as soon as they get back, we're going to bail. Okay. So are you going to sleep at all? Yeah, I'm going to sleep. I'm going to sleep. Okay, because I heard these plans. The plans are for Matt Grimm to leave here and keep driving until he gets to Dallas. The race is on to beat Dan back to the day.

Ben. Right. He wanted to him. Yeah. I have to turn everything into a competition. Right. And as we know, T.C.'s car is parked right in front of my house on the corner. Like there are, there are now detour signs around how to get around T.C.'s car and through my neighborhood.

We've discussed that. We want Mrs. McDowell to have a great weekend. So before she gets home from work, we plan to have T.C. are in a different spot. I thought you were looking at the Apple Maps, though, deciding this is probably, you're unable to get there before. That's not what I said. Oh.

That's these guys. That's these guys. Okay, this is the wolf. You're sending a wolf. I'm the self-proclaimed chief logistics officer of this operation, and I feel I can get it done. So there is a little pressure because had they not been going to Nick Offerman, you're leaving from the Brewer's Spring Training facility. Yeah, we'll probably stop at the house and pick up.

the last few bits of things. But you would lead, like, that would be your preference. Tomorrow? No. No, I'm fine waiting for these guys to go to Nick Offerman. I understand that's a big deal. But if you, if they, if there was no big deal, if everything was even. If there was no Nick Offerman, we'd be out.

That's what I mean. Yeah. You got to the bottom of it. Yeah. Sure, serum. Yeah. Well. But T.C. is not one usually worried about others.

And I speak from, that's why I'm putting myself. I'm not, I'm just saying I understand your bit. You were not that worried if somebody would see your car and that would be in somebody's way. You just weren't thinking about that. You're not thinking about are you bothering Matt? And I live that way too. So don't be offended.

I was absolutely worried. That's why I didn't park in your neighbor's yard. I could have parked in their yard. Yeah. What I remember about the drive back last time was the wind, darling. I was sore for a couple days fighting that wind. Yeah, because you were having to lock them up. Yeah, we were, well, I wasn't locking it up.

On the way back from Colorado. We were driving southeast on 287, and there was a strong north wind. So I was... It was intense, dude. It was, remember Amarillo, getting out in Amarillo, that wind? I don't remember. Didn't we see a truck blown over? Yeah.

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This viewer mail for sure. Here's non-baseball. Went to get a coffee this morning, as you know, And a little sports radio is on. Were you listening? Yeah. Driving to get ice cream? Yeah.

This morning. Big topic today was Pat Tillman's brother. Why? Well, he was in the news recently. You remember he? Yeah. Like, was he sentenced? Apparently, one of the hosts on this show was at Pat Tillman's funeral.

That's not surprising to me. And just recalled how his brother walked up with a pint. and had a few things to say that seemed to contradict what everybody else at the religious funeral were saying. And they're promoting patsrun.org. Apparently they have a run set up this weekend, which is a 4.2 mile run that will end at the 42-yard line because Pat Tillman loved Jackie Robinson there. Yes, he did. He dedicated his career to him, in fact.

That's why he signed up for the military. And this is a very serious... Because Jackie Robinson did. Yes, a very serious segment where he said that the brother, you know, it's tough what he's been going through. And family says that he's gone through some mental health issues. And they... I wanted to bring this up to you in case you wanted to do more research on this.

the brother has been live streaming his altered self on social media yeah um his altered self i appreciate uh that you're coming to me with this i somewhat i'm gonna try not to take it as disrespect because you know that when you're already on this brother lit that post office on fire six months ago i spent hours okay trying to find they're all deleted he was using like a uh and a hebrew name Like he was speaking, he was using like some, I don't know, T.C. and I might have talked about it some, but he was, he was, he was, uh, real hippied out, and he was speaking in tongues and he was quoting the Bible, but also like the stock market, he was fully gone. And at some point they were archived on Reddit, but I wasn't able to find them. But yeah, that's, uh, he was altered. He was altered heavily. All right. Well, anyway, that's my, you know, 10 minute. 15-minute drive to and from coffee this morning. That's what we're talking about here on Arizona Sports Radio today.

Pat Tillman's brother. Here at the ballpark at Brewer's Spring Training, and in all of baseball, I think it was a pretty huge story when the Major League Baseball Players Association executive director resigned yesterday. Mm-hmm. So it's Tony Clark. I think I remember he was a tiger player,

and they had an internal investigation. He revealed he had an inappropriate relationship with someone who had been hired by the union back in 2023. So now you have a, you think, power imbalance? I mean, he's the head of the union. Right. And you had hired a lady. Who is this lady?

Oh, says here, the relationship was with his sister-in-law. And now, I don't know that you'd call it the overworked Twitter joke because it kind of feels like an overworked Twitter. I actually am interested in the answer, not a joke. Which way? Is this your wife's sister or your brother's wife? So my question, I have a couple of questions.

All right, wife's sister or your brother's wife, which one is hotter, if you're writing the story, and then which one is the morally superior choice? And I think the answer is to both is the same. Morally superior meaning the one that you think would, in let's just say conventional morality, you're at the pearly gates, the one that they would say that was the less bad decision?

Yeah. That's the one that you're saying is morally superior. Okay. With those terms set, I would say probably based on your rules you just set forth there, you're going to say the more moral decision is your sister, your wife's sister. And there's no doubt you think it's the hotter decision. Well, because you know, you don't have, I mean, you're messing with family. Be a bro, dude.

Don't be it. Have relations with your brother's wife. You've now... Your wife isn't your family. You've just messed with blood if you have sex with your brother's wife. Yeah, but there... There's... Were you going to say, like, kids, T.C.?

Well, I just... If you consider the wife's perspective, her feelings are going to be hurt a lot more by her sister. Yeah, he didn't. But whatever you're talking about moral questions, like how other people feel about it is kind of the big thing you're looking at. Well, no, now they morally...

inferior choice for the wife's sister. She's made that. That's not you, though. You're not her. You're not policing her. You're only worried about the love that you've fallen in. Right. And whether or not your dad, who's about to be president, thinks it's okay.

I also think it's, if you are interested in studying things, like I used to when I was, when my kids were little, I thought of it as a, I'm like a scientist here. I'm studying them. Sure. Look at how they, look at how they. look at how they interact, look at how they just play when they're by themselves. Like this is, so as far as a scientific experiment or a scientifically superior choice, you get to actually experience like the nature versus nurture thing if you have relations with both your wife and her sister. Your science is like they're, yeah, they're, oh, they were raised in the same way, but look how different they are once we remove all inhibitions.

But I think you're also, if we just talk it out here, history is full of stories where the dude is nailing his brother's wife and that is perceived as like a pretty big hot play, you know? Yeah. Like, I mean, obviously you're immediately – Oh, no, they're both hot. The question is hotter. Okay. Yeah, obviously, there's no shortage of lore on that sort of thing. All right, if you have to choose, you have to do one of those.

Which one do you do? You've already got me. You know my choice here. I think it depends. Like I think if you want to, it depends baseline if you want to keep your family. If you do have kids and you want to keep your family, I would say that having sex with your brother's wife is going to give you a better chance to keep yourself under the same roof as your wife than if you have sex with her sister.

Oh, you're saying, oh. If you don't care, then. Ask your wife if she's ever considered being both lesbian and incestuous and see if you can get her sister and her to hook up. Okay, so your goal is you want to stay married. If you do, do not have sex with your wife's sister. Okay, now, yeah, that's a different calculus here. But I would agree with that. Okay.

But one might say that that would be the basis for a moral judgment, which you did ask earlier. Well, I'm saying you're falling in love here. You're not going to keep your family. you want to leave and create the rest of your life with this person, which, you know, you do that with your wife's sister. That's going to make holidays a little. I guess all holidays are going to be a tent after this. You also, you've already sorted your wife.

And even if she may not be the best, you've decided she's pretty good. So wouldn't you rather have a better, just take another crack at one of those than use your siblings' judgment? Right. Yes. The answer for me is yes. Yes. So the answer, all answers are leading towards the wife's sister.

So I hope Tom Clark- Sacrifice the before us. I think the big thing is going to be who's hotter, like in reality. And it's hard to judge where we sit now. So I'd say let's start gathering evidence. If anyone has a hot wife's sister or a hot brother's wife, just start the dumb zone at gmail.com. We can kind of get a repository together of, you know, which set is hotter. Build a data set.

So, yeah, just start emailing those right now. if we could have several by the end of the show. Blake, did you have, you're about to say something? No. It's been a rough, like, 24 months for the unions and for the players associations.

And for, and it's fascinating to me because you see this in all kinds of businesses, but it's the thing of, do you need someone from the outside who knows how to do business or someone from the inside who knows the business?

Well, that's a very interesting. It's always like a slider for how much in between. So as far as you mean Tony Clark being the head? Yes. Yeah. And the NFL has had major problems with this. Because it always, right, Gene Upshaw used to be the head of it. And always in the past, really with Major League Baseball, though, the face has been like a lawyer.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's what you want. It doesn't look like they've ever thrown a baseball. Yeah. And that's what your commissioner is. That's what the owners are. Like, that's the arena that you're in now.

But that's why you hire an agent. Exactly. The players do it when they hire an agent. But for some reason, there is a tendency towards, like, we need player representation in these rooms. They want to be able to speak for the guys. But also, sometimes then you introduce people who are wild because they were pro athletes. And the NFL just parted ways with a guy for expense in all those strip club trips and ubers for women. You need nerds.

Yeah, you need nerds. So, yeah, so now, yes, as you're heading towards labor strife or probability, you know, the owners want, they're probably going to lock them out, lock the players out. That is the thought. But I want to get into that here. And the crux of it is a salary cap. But their sell is, well, along with a salary cap, you will increase the, you actually create a salary floor because right now there's not unless you were to what the major league minimum

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I guess. And they think, as you hear about every time there's labor problems, it's because there's no salary cap. So we need a salary cap and that will instantly make franchises across the board worth more money. Can I dumb guy math question this?

Yeah, we'll see if we can answer it. Is that simply because if the overall amount of money that you're paying out to salaries is capped, then it's not coming out of profit? That doesn't seem like that huge of a difference to me to affect your overall valuation. Right? Like, let's say that they said, hey, the Yankees are spending $300 million. They can only spend $250 now. Is that $50 million a year?

what is holding back their valuation pacing at the same as other sports? Does that make sense? I don't know. There has to be other factors, I would think. I would imagine you're spreading the talent. Because if two teams on the coast have all of the good players. That's a good point. Then it would just, if there was a cap, wouldn't it trickle down?

Yeah. And they would make those other teams worth more. That would make sense. But I don't know how they do. Football is the easiest because of the TV deal. Right. Uniform. Okay. Well, that's one of the things they're talking about now is that trying to view the loss, the death of the RSNs, let's make lemonade out of that.

Well, great. A Phoenix arises. Right. Now we can socialize that. Now we can get all the local TV deals under one umbrella, and now we will spread that money out equally. Well, the trick is now convincing the Dodgers and the Yankees and the Yankees and the, the Mets. Yeah.

That you should do that for the Brewers, because what they will say is, well, the Brewers spend whatever it is 27th most in Major League Baseball, yet they won the most games last year. Guess we don't need, you know? That's what the Players Association will say. Like, we don't have to do that. Wait, is it the player? I'm losing myself.

No, the owners. That's what the owner. I'll interject a little business here. Do it. What you're talking about there is spreading the talent across the league to make it more competitive. You're not really talking about team valuation. Okay, that's kind of what Blake just said. Right.

So team valuation in most of the business world is based on profits times a certain multiplier to then get a big number. So if they make a million dollars a year in EBITDA, then say it's a 10 multiplier, then the team's worth $10 million. I think the marrying of the two arguments is saying that if the teams had more money to operate with because of a revenue sharing and salary cap, they would become worth more because they'd be more competitive. Like are the Dodgers, would they also become worth more because right now they are mortgaging, you know, they're spending lots and lots and lots and lots of money, just assuming that it'll be okay in the future because it's still going to keep going up. Right. But at some point when you have Otani and all the players that they do, like does adding Kyle Tucker do anything to that?

But let's say if you put Kyle Tucker on the Rangers, I would say that makes an impact. There's diminishing ROI, but if your dollar is worth more, it doesn't have to go as far, you know? As far as what does it mean wins and losses for the Dodgers? We're already. Right. It's like A-Rod back in the day, you know?

The value of a win that a player adds is not, they're not all the same. And good teams understand that. Also, I think you brought this up the other day, or one of you guys did, that despite this dark cloud that you can see on the horizon, like, it's at the kind of the worst time because baseball is, the death of baseball has been slowed. Like we talked about the death of baseball forever, but, you know, the pitch clock, everybody kind of loves it. We've got the DH all over the place now. We got the world class, base,

whatever that is, right? He's got Otani. And you got O'Otani. You've got super duper stars on both coasts. You got Aaron Judge. You got Otani. Things are great.

Yet, things are about to come to a halt. That's the big concern. The Kyle Tucker contract, I was not aware with his game that he pulled a Kevin Durant. Were you aware of the story? No.

Who did he leave? So Kyle Tucker was on the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays were two outs away from winning the World Series. The Blue Jays offered Kyle Tucker a 10-year $350 million contract. No deferred money. $35 million a year. Nobody had ever turned down a $300 million offer in Major League Baseball. But he did.

because the Dodgers offered a four-year deal, guaranteeing $240 million over four years. That's $60 million a year. Wow. $64 million signing bonus, $30 million is deferred. Mets offered like a $220 million, $75 million signing bonus, a four-year deal. And again, the Toronto offer.

10 years, 35, 350. So 35 million a year, over 10 years, or 60 million a year, over four years, and you could become a free agent again, where the only concern there would be, what if actually the money does regress and it doesn't go up and up and up? You know? Or you get hurt or something happens. Yeah, in my society, all the sports would be run by the government and they would all have a uniform salary cap, you know.

You would be, there would be no opportunity for a team like the Dodgers to do something like that. Just from a, let's just regulate it out. I don't know if Kyle Tucker came up in the Blue Jays system or not, but I imagine he's been. No, he's an astro. Okay. So he's like a rental there? He wasn't there long. That's not as bad then.

You know, that sort of happens. But you hate to see, that's not, you know, Kevin Durant was drafted by the Thunder. Right. And I'm not like, you know, that's a weird situation for sure, especially since the Aavie came in at double. That's embarrassing. That's like making a mockery of the market. Well, I want to know Tani's contract did the same thing. Yeah, but there was nobody else making serious offers to him of $35.

million at the time. But yeah. Dodgers pay him $2 million a year, and they've deferred $680 million over 10 years. Because I guess they what do, business guy? They put that in

some kind of a fund and just let it. They're going to put it into a fund and future dollars are worth less than today's dollars, so it'll be significantly less than $68 million. dollars a year. Why does the player take that? Because he's going to move to Florida where there's no state income tax. He makes enough money via endorsements. And he just continues that for 10 years after his career. So it's basically for like financial planning more than anything else.

It's a great deal for both sides. You're going to as the player make a little bit less money because that future dollar that they're paying you is worth worth a little bit less than when you side it in present value. Yeah, he's going to make a little less, and the Dodgers are effectively going to pay a little less. Damn money. The Dodgers pay a 110% penalty on every dollar spent over the $304 million threshold.

So Kyle Tucker this year will cost the dollars, Dodgers, $19 million. So his salary is adjusted to $57.1 million. to reflect its net present value. I don't understand any of this. But it does say the Dodgers will actually, it'll cost them $119 million to have Tucker on their team this year because of the tax and all that.

And $119 million, one player on the team this year. Ten teams payroll is under $119 million. So they've added one player, said, we have so much money, it doesn't matter that it's going to cost us that. He's their best player, right? Right? Like he's the immediately, oh. No. Yeah, that, that, when you put it like that is disheartening.

I don't like, I don't like hearing that. I mean, in the NBA, I don't know that anybody is pining for the model that they use right now. It seems like everybody's complaining. We were talking about the, you can't, you have to overpay a guy that you draft yesterday. But they do put in punitive measures to where it's not just paying the money. Like if you get to a certain point over the tack, you can't make trade. Can't make trade. You can't take on this money.

You lose this. You lose that. Baseball doesn't have, to my knowledge, anything quite like that. Which is creating parity in the NBA. Yeah. Which I think, you know, in a way they kind of wants and in a way you don't want. You know, times are good when you do know. Stars.

Jordan and the Bulls. Steph. LeBron, like when you knew they were going to be in the finals, that wasn't hurting the league at all. No, I don't think the Dodgers are hurting the league. Yeah, so I don't... They were cool. I don't know.

Brewer's fans might argue against that. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, I think in general, the Dodgers are, like, they don't seem like the Yankees to me when the Yankees were good, where it's kind of stodgy. And, you know, I don't, I'm not rooting for the Dodgers, that's for sure. but just over the years, I don't know. It's hard not to like a team that Otani's on. We have the local tie with Kershaw and whatnot,

but I don't know. I think baseball's got cool teams now. If you're arguing for a cap, you would say more than half of all playoff teams since the year 2000 had top 10 payrolls. So it's only the big spenders that do well. 12 to the last 15 World Series winners, top 10 payroll. Winning percentages overall correlate with payroll more than the NFL, the NBA, or the NHL.

Spending money matters so much. That's why we need a salary cap. And then players would say, yes, the Brewers won the most games last year. They had $117 million payroll, which is less than Kyle Tucker will. cost the Dodgers on their books this year. That was the 23rd highest payroll. The Guardians, the former Indians, have, you know, always been pretty low spenders,

and they keep winning the American League Central. The Astros, you know, you see what they did, although they're spending, I think, did go up. Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is always a great one. Their payroll has never been over $98 million. dollars. Jeez.

And Tampa Bay has done very well. So the Rangers, you know, I don't know. What were they? Were they a top 10 payroll that year that they won the World Series? They were. Probably. I'm almost positive they were. And I think it might have been a couple of years.

And they've, in general, since Tom Hicks really, have been closer to commensurate with their market size and payroll. But too often, they fall down into that 12 to 15 range for a city that's top five. There's no reason in baseball for you to not be spending with your market. Is that a big deal when you were growing up? Did you just kind of understand? Never. Because that to me was when I was growing up,

I didn't understand why the Rangers weren't, like basically the Yankees. I didn't understand that New York was that much bigger than Dallas, but I knew DFW was huge. And I'm like, why aren't the Rangers bad? bad assed him. Like as soon as you understood that there was no salary cap in that week. Growing up, I grew up in a market that you knew was tiny. That's what I'm saying. That's why anything felt a little better. Like the 90s Indians, when they burst through, it was like, wow, they're doing this despite. Right. It felt a little better. But yeah, if you live in DFW, you should always expect your teams to spend crazy.

It comes and goes, but voila, almost every time they do, they're pretty good. but obviously you don't need to do it. There's teams like the Brewers, but usually the most sustained teams are teams that can do both, and that's like what the Dodgers do now. All right, a couple more things on this. First, fairlease.org. We should mention them today.

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Interesting point in this article, too, about labor peace or labor strife with Major League Baseball. They said academic research on the effectiveness of caps as a tool of competitive balance is very limited, but they say a 2011 study determined no causative relationship between caps and balance. So like, just because your league has a, the salary cap is not what's making competitive balance. Yes. Which doesn't totally make, like Sean Kernan, he's our sponsor, 360 wealth management, business Wednesday sponsor.

He shared with me an article about how, because, okay, I told you he's setting up my kids with like, you know, a few thousand dollars. Just get them to. start saving, so we're going to put money into the market. And I said, well, the market's really good right now. Should you wait till like some some weird thing happens, then throw it in? He said, actually, studies have shown that over time, it does not matter. It doesn't matter when you, if you invest into the market, when it's at a low point or a high point, it's all kind of evens out in the end, which didn't, you agree with that? Absolutely. He's 100% correct. Didn't make, right? It doesn't. Over a long enough timeline. I guess.

zooming out. But I guess that's what they're doing too, with salary caps versus non-salary cap leagues. It's like, actually. Yeah, but also there's several other mechanisms in play, like the draft, like the scheduling, right? There are other things at play, other factors that are causing that, right?

If they're saying it's not a fact, I'd have to see the study. Free agency. Free agency is the first thing to me that ever created, Like, you might be able to argue that the 70s NFL had a salary cap. But no free agency, no player movement. Right. Yeah.

So that's, it's interesting, but I still would prefer from a look standpoint. I think baseball should have a, I've always started to have a salary cap. But that's because I like the dork part of the game. Well, it does feel like, yeah, you should be able to think. Now, what's weird is if you have like no idea, you should be able to. learn how to build a franchise and be able to be competitive. But don't you think it goes a little too far if you actually, every one of the teams could win the World Series at the start of a year?

Like, I feel like I wouldn't like that if it was just such a crapshoot. Which sometimes it feels like that, like let's say the NHL, the last team in the playoffs can end up going on a run and it just doesn't feel right. If you were the eighth best team in your conference. But having you, uh, depends on where the last. line is, right? Haven't you liked the expansion of teams that you think can win in the NBA? Yeah. And the NFL is kind of built on that. Baseball is just not like that. It's, you know, akin to what I'm told soccer is like. The NFL's built on that, but you actually still have some,

like, the Browns won't win it next year. Come on, bud. You know? Yeah, I do. Yeah. Anyway. Don't say what you're about to say. Uh, so. So, second year shot. This article does point out that NBA player salaries actually went down by $500 million last year because the league did not hit the revenue expectations. Damn. Did you realize that? Did not know that.

The only time I was aware of revenue going down and salaries going down was the vid. But most of them had bounced back since then. But that's interesting. I think I have to go get all the money back from the guys. that's the show I want to watch. After they've already paid, they don't hit the BRI numbers they needed and they have to go claw back $20 million from Yokic, some off-season.

Paid you too much. Let's see here. Okay, so the problems here are the lower revenue organizations like your brewers, your Indians or whatever, would have to spend tens of millions more. And then, you know, you would still have a floor of 150 million, let's say, and a ceiling of 280 million.

Is that competitive balance? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's on a spectrum. I think it's much closer. But it's $130 million difference in your floor and cap. That's still quite a gap. It is, but it does something to rain it in. And it solves the problem of there's a little bit of revenue sharing involved.

I mean, now we're getting down to debating a subjective thing. Like, what is fair? How much money a millionaire giving away is generous. It's better than what they have now. And if you get it instituted, but this is kind of like we've always talked about, I don't know if this example still holds, but like how the NRA would lobby, right? that they're like, we are not giving an inch here because if we do, the dam could break.

And the salary cap being implemented in Major League Baseball would be historic. Well, you'd already say it. Even if it started out $130 million apart. They've given a few inches by even allowing the tax. They have. I get, yeah. Like, what would the Dodgers be doing without the tax?

That's a good point. We just told you, Kyle Tucker's salary is like $120 million this year. with the tags. I wonder if it's weird. I wonder if it's weird. It's probably, I bet they talk about it on the base paths. Like, I bet it's weird to play against them and be like, you guys are just, you're being paid more than all of us right now.

It does make me think of, like, when I was a kid, the Yankees, you'd just get mad because they would acquire anyone else's best player. Chuck Knoblock was the best player on the Twins. And they're like, well, what if we sign him in free agency? Make him the highest paid second baseman in baseball. And he's our seventh best player. Yeah. Like he's not that good.

Do we need the best? Well, why not? We can. And it makes you, you know, it fuels your hate for that team. And it makes it even sweeter when you do beat that team. So there's something to that. But it is, it's very interesting. We've said this a million times.

How the sports leagues. cry that we have to have this socialist system set up. Yet, as a society, we never look at that and go, hey, look, like we're screaming for that. Like, we as fans are screaming that the players are making too much money, and we should even this out. Yet in life, somehow they've conditioned us to think that would be the worst thing ever if we were to even things out a little bit.

And that's kind of like even the argument I would say you would make. We're not talking about, yes, I do think there's a value of people that work harder should make more money and people that want to just lay around should probably, right? I agree. But it's kind of like the guy next to you might not, but I do. Well, no, I mean, it's the same thing as, well, let's cut it at least to a $300 million cap and $130 floor. Like at least, you know, should you have $80 billion? Okay, what if they didn't?

And it just helped pull that floor up a little bit. Is there anything wrong with that? No, no. It wouldn't affect, right? And I think it would be proactive because, much like with a lot of other, you know, whether it's Blockbuster or whatever the case may be, the time to think about how to keep your game competitive is when it's very popular, not when it's waning in popularity.

So if they think they have something now, they need to be thinking about what they want it to look like in 10 years, and whether or not they want it to look like it does now further down a 10-year path, where only a couple teams can be truly competitive. So I don't know. If baseball institutes a pitch clock and a salary cap in one decade, it's like one of the larger shifts in a sport, at least in my lifetime, for sure. Yeah, and then what is the Tony Clark thing?

Does it affect it at all? Does it make it better? Because now they're getting rid of the baseball. Remember we started with that? I immediately went back to which lady is. No, no, no. I don't think that's involved in this at all. Although it'd be interested to see, you know, we want to know.

Well, I mean, I think the lesson there is that we know that everybody's horny, but old athletes in offices are super horny. It just seems like every. They're high. It's super high. There's ladies around that. They're very competitive. Right?

Yeah. Why's my brother with her? I should be. And then I am. I'm going to hire her. That'll get, yeah. Yeah, I'll give your, uh, talking to your wife, I'll give your sister a job. Dio, you think she wasn't a wee bit curious out of the gate there?

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Brecadana hotmail.com if you want to send something. to me behind their backs. Still have a lot of email accounts, don't you? It's like my lists. Yeah. I'm like, oh, look, here's a new app that's, this will be a better list. Yeah. And then I could put all my stuff here.

No, it's just another one. Okay, I don't know if we talked about this on the show, but I really wanted, when we were at Fox 4 looking at the construction site, I really wanted to get a whiteboard. Yeah. Just put a huge whiteboard up in the office unnecessarily. Did I just mess that up? Camera. But then you just end up writing the same stuff on the whiteboard that's on your list.

I know, but then we could all see it. I still like the whiteboard idea. I got a couple of emails about this, just in general, people watching the Olympics. The Olympics are a big athletes crying in interviews space, because they've been waiting their whole lives for this. In general, what are you guys' thoughts on that? Like, we're going to run over to the 16-year-old. She's crying. She's been working on the, you know.

I guess I know that it's part of the appeal for some people. It's like this is a real moment. But some of it is. And do you think the athlete wants that publicized? Would doubt it. You sure? I mean, it's a culmination of, you know, they were like eight. They're 10.

They're going to these practicing at 6 in the morning. and like it all actually paid off and is that part of the payoff for that video to air of them at their most vulnerable, you know? Like did Michael Jordan, is he upset that they filmed him crying, hugging the trophy when he finally got there?

He probably is. But that's a big image of him that helped it's the end of the story here. Like look at how much he put into that. It's very cool, but that doesn't always jive with what the person wants, you know, if they feel like it was an invasion or something. I mean, Dirk went back in the trainer's room and did his crying. So that clearly the person, he wasn't interested in that being narrated as much as I think Michael Jordan, in a way, right?

It's Trump. Loves the fact that the news media is running around, and anything I say, they will. you know, for four years, anything I say, they weren't really paying attention to. And now it's like it shakes the world. It's great. That's why he has a daily press conference. But yes, you're right. I suppose now we're dealing with 16-year- or 18-year-olds in the Winter Olympics,

and we don't know. They haven't built up the history that Michael Jordan or Trump had to show us that they really did like all the attention. Yeah. And they don't have a ton of media training. Yeah. It's a one-shot-type deal. Now, it's frustrating that I don't have audio for you guys. I did a quick Google on this.

I feel like the Olympics just has, like, Matt, do you know? Do they have some, like, insane? You can't post any Olympic clips on Twitter even? Like, you can't post litigia. I mean, it just seems like you'd want cool jumps and stuff being shared like crazy. Like, if there was some awesome thing that's something. Finn saw that it would be everywhere, like, boom, boom, boom, you have to see this moment from the Olympics.

And I haven't been seeing much of that at all. You're right. I did see the Lindsay Vaughn crash on Twitter, but I don't feel like I've seen, like, just a ton of stuff. No, unless it's a guy saying, I cheat it all to my wife. I don't know. Where was he from? He was from somewhere that didn't speak English.

That was from Quentin. interviewing athletes. Let's see. I got an email about the Olympics. Okay. I should have sent this email to Jake as he is the gatekeeper of all things racism. Oh, that's it.

That's him. Fantastic. Yes. Welcome. But I don't know his email, so I send it to you. My kids go to an unnamed private school in Fort Worth. And as a celebration of the Winter Olympics starting, they did something I couldn't believe. They assigned each grade a country

And told them to come to school Dressed as that country Okay My son is in pre-K Was assigned Mexico No My daughter's class got Japan That morning I had my son

Dressed in a poncho, sombrero Fake mustache Oh, you just went full on You didn't have him dressed as a solid trader agreement or a with a couple of empty corona bottles but my wife my wife changed him into jeans and a green t-shirt come on no you don't need to kill the bit entirely although i'm very excited to hear about japan now didn't you have didn't did your kid have something like this at school to grab a mic because i have heard of this before um but i am yours might have been different

oh well have come represent your country day Yeah, or you had one, right? For this month, they had a dress-up day for the kids to celebrate the month. Black History, Mark. No. What do they want from me? Dude, it's just tempting you. Yeah, what's your play?

So if they say Tuesday, Blake, dress your kid up for black. History Month. I mean, John Brown's always on the table. I don't feel like that's going to scan. Lincoln? Can you be Lincoln? He kind of looks like Lincoln. You probably, yeah.

Is there a problem, though? Do black people have a problem when we say, damn, I can't even remember the guy? Like Branch Ricky. What a great guy. Yeah, I think so. Abraham Lincoln. Black hero.

You're much safer with John Brown, but as T.C. said, it might not scan. Abolitionist, John Brown? Terrorist, maybe by some. Jackie Robinson jersey. Jersey, yeah. That's not bad. Boy, they really leave you no options.

I don't know what they want me to do. Like, because even if you were trying to display somehow downtrodden, like, that's offensive. Every single who you could make has some person who rightfully would be upset. No, I'm pre-murder OJ. Look, I'm wearing a Hertz. Look at me go. Also, David Draper says I emailed about coming to the den for a playoff game stream. I never heard back.

Let me know. Yes, everybody who has emailed me, you're on the list for, you know, next year. And the draft. You will be contacted. You just sit back and wait. It's going to. Very exciting once you get that contact. We're going into football hibernation mode.

So just wait. We got the draft. We're going to do the draft this year? Mm-hmm. I love the draft. Who's the number one pick? Our autist quarterback. Fernando Mendoza.

There's something going on way besides autism. Should we trade the number one pick? Should the Raiders load up? You know what I saw some talk about that online? And someone had pointed out, you know that the Rams traded a bunch of stuff to go up and get golf? Did you remember that? Of course. That was like a multi-trade. That was a Trubisky, right? No, but there were multiple trades involved that year to get both them and the Eagles to where they got to get wins.

Who had won? And it might have been. I think Tennessee. I was going to say yes. It was like two firsts, two seconds, like a ton to get golf. And that put Tennessee into the wonderful position they are today? Well, they ended up making the AFC championship, I think, once. Yeah. Contact down. Kill my camera for like one. One second. Or you could just talk for one second.

I'll listen while I do this. Make him big. If you take your contact, yeah, just focus on Jake. If you take your contact out, do you ever pop it in your mouth to rinse it off? Of course. I'm about to do it right now. That's a thing? I've done it before on the ball field because, you know, it's all dirty, and I figured, I guess, dirt from the...

It's been bothering me all morning because I'm having to put it in with my offhand. Slava does a lot to clean stuff up. It's good. I saw a guy do it with a glass eye once. Human or a canine? Human. Glass eye? Yeah.

Awesome. That's the best my eyes felt all day. We alluded to this, but yesterday we had a brief moment where T.C. said, I have something to add to the show. Today it was great. Yesterday it was, Dan said, I got an email from a guy who works in HVAC explaining how the HVAC in Arizona works. T.C. said, I'd like to take that mic. he added some information about how he had come to understand that it actually worked. Maybe it was a little bit of an addendum piece of information.

And we received no less than 10 emails, tweets, texts from people being like, T.C.'s an idiot. No, I'm right. But here's the thing. I don't care, right? I didn't care at the beginning. And we've mentioned it now. And I want to satisfy these emailers to say, I saw your emails. I heard the chatter.

I looked into it and found nothing, but go to chat GPT right now. Ask them why it's up there. I don't know if you have any follow-up on this, Dan, if you want. The emails all gave me, as the Musers and Troy Eichmann would say, Tired Head. Yeah. Oh, dude. No, no, no, yeah. I got one from Boyd right here, who's like, T.C. is incorrect,

not only about the pervasiveness of the swamp cooler, but also about its placement on the roof. I'm sure some are, but. at my school, the coolers are window-mounted. Oh, one-guy's school. Cool, great. I believe he grew up here. Well, we're talking about the houses. Anyway, I agree with you.

I wanted to acknowledge it. We had teased it earlier. We had said, yes, I'm sorry. I don't know anything about anything. Someone called the Guinness Book of World Records. It's the first time an emailer's been wrong. This is when Blake and T.C. ultimately became out. allies.

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Thank you for your attention to this matter. That's it? Pretty much. And I think now it's time to discuss. The Winter Olympics, DEI for white athletes, is kind of spot on. Like, we need something. You had your summer Olympics. And what if we just do a bunch of sports that only white people play,

therefore, voila, back on top? Yeah, the winner favors the Northern Nations, the Summer Olympics favors the Southern nations. That seems fair and equitable. Okay. Yeah, it's, again, it is obviously very... It sounds like something you would say. But I would imagine the Summer Olympics were first, right?

Did they start with track? Then the people in the north were like, well, hey, we're good at stuff too. The question is this. Well, we get on our skis and take them to work. Oh, okay. Let's have a competition. Well, I'm really good at shooting a gun on skis. Well, where do you think running came from?

Oh, really? Okay, let's make that. What do you think running came? I mean, people in the Olympics were just running. That's because they were just running to work or running after lions or running away from this or that or whatever. And now they're going to, over time, they're going to run for competition. There's something to what you guys are saying about the Northern sports feel more engineered to provide a winner than an adaptation of something that was actually happening. Like bobsled or skeleton.

Was someone doing that? Like cross-country skiing, that's analogous to running. Downhill slalom is analogous to like sprinting and doing hurdles, right? Let's take it to summer then. Do you, was there somebody throwing a javelin? Well, yeah. To kill an ape or something? I don't know.

Yeah, okay. At some point. That's what all, the, let's look at all the sports, like you said. Bob sled, I think that's totally fake. Yeah, there's no way. Now, people went on a sled. Yeah. Do you say, well, let's see who could do it the fastest.

Yeah, if you, it's getting down the mountain. That's obviously one of the big competitions. Skiing. Do it on skis or versus in a car. type thing. Now, to get to the bottom of the sports gene conversation here, which was just a book that was written a few years ago that was basically, what if you wrote Jimmy the Greeks argument in a nice way and used a bunch of academic research.

But I think what you guys are getting at is it seems like the southern hemisphere sports require more like, quote, natural athletic ability. but I don't know that that's necessarily true because when you say it's DEI then it makes it sound like okay well you're coming up with something but if we don't know like is there like obviously bodies are different

right they're built bigger in certain places like where that's where power lifting is huge in like Russia bodies in that part of the world near that part of the equator I guess that doesn't get any thought but the number of swimming events feels like it's engineered

Well, all, like, how many meters? Oh, look, more. No, you can't swim that way. Well, then by that token, token, diving is extremely extra. Yeah. So I think it's going on across both Olympics. Can I give you a bunch of anchor words? Yeah.

Do you see there was somebody stole our bit? Well, we stole it first. We haven't stolen shit. If you stole everything we've ever done twice. He's still for me. You've stolen twice. Iota? Hey, will you pass me

three or four iotas of popcorn? And an addendum to Iota, it means a very small amount. Also, usually used in a negative context. Yeah.

Do you ever hear it in a pot? Like, I couldn't care one iota. Or you never hear could I get an i of pepper on my salad. Hey, how about... Work that in tonight at dinner.

Yeah, that's... I like that. Keep chasing those imps. Garrett. We also have... Luke... Warm? No.

We said there's no Luke cold. Come on. Go on. What else is Luke? Don't do Blake stuff where you have one word. I thought you were reading an email from someone named Luke. You're... No.

No, I'm reading... That's a anchor word. No, it's not. It's a word. Okay. Luke isn't always with worm? It's one word. It's a word.

Oh, is it? Okay. I'm reading a freaking email here. Why don't you guys get off my... Oh, I'm sorry. Let me research the whole email and make sure every one of these. This is how I got in trouble for it. Well, I think that what we may be running into here is the epistemology of Meet the Parents

because he says the pool is Luke. Yeah, but he's shortening the single word. Only one word, Luke? Okay, I'm sorry. Again, I thought I forgot I was with English majors here. He has rue. Yeah. As far as there's only one thing, like, you only rue one thing.

Yeah. The evening. Well, I got the day you were born. Okay, yeah. The day you were born, it feels, I just know rue the day. Yeah. Torn. Is that like based on ruminate?

He says torn is the only first word that would be with a, Sunder. So I guess a Sunder would be... Whatever, what is a Sunder? And then he says, giving Jake my fourth grade Pemmanship Award to keep him from invading Greenland. What does that mean? And I have a morbid anchor word from Tim.

Statutory. Yeah, what if you just became a guy who started casually saying that? Any time there's contract talk, how's that going to work out statutorily? Hey, can you stop? Can you stop saying that? Any other emails? Or you want me to roll? Blake, you got anything?

I don't. I don't know if we had any handoffs. I got Jake is dumb. Okay. Got plenty of handoffs. In yesterday's episode, Jake confidently told Dan the reason for the, the reason the steer at the Fort Worth thing sold for so much money was so the new, owners could use it for breeding purposes. That is the reason the show is called the dumb zone.

Steers have no testicles. Testicles are needed for breeding purposes. We did read, I don't know if we read that specific one, but I do have another one. It's also called the dumb zone because you speak off mic and nobody can hear it except for us. So let's get a mic. Yeah, that's the thing. The old saying is you want to castrate them to change their way of thinking from getting ass to eat and grab. says Justin.

Markets to your show is king. They have majors, basically. You have a circuit where you're going to get down to Houston for a major. Really? Yeah. Where's Fort Worth's rank? It doesn't say. Fort Worth's the biggest, actually, it says, out of those few.

Okay. He said there's all sorts of, like, there's a, is this an anchor word? Seedy underbelly. Hmm. You don't just pull a bull out of your pasture off of 287 and cut his nuts and you're going to do well. There are cattle producers that specialize in genetics and show calves. Obviously, when that market is out there, competition has many effects. Some kids don't have to do the day and day out, and they show someone else's calf,

and they have a contract with the owner of the cap to split the winnings. We're talking about a Blake and Dan fantasy baseball situation here with a, there's probably all kinds of examples of the rich kid getting to go show the cow while some farm urchin is raising it. But he says it's super competitive. A calf sometimes will not eat due to moving from its normal home to the show, causing it to look bad. Sometimes you'll see them pump soda in their throats to get them to look full again.

If you do well, the calf is drug tested right when you leave the arena. Wow. Yeah. There's a whole wild world of... There's a lot going on out there that we don't really know about. But it does not involve bull semen. Because the nuts off. All right.

All right. Well, there's viewer mail for you. Hey, did you know that there is a three o'clock press conference today? So maybe we'll have audio tomorrow. I did know. For what? Christian Parker. Oh.

But did you see? also in the release it said he will be introduced by Brian Schottenheimer Now is this a Do we take it as oh look Shotty's got autonomy or is it that Jerry and Stephen are so disinterested

in this that they are at you know the X games Or On the Riviera Give it to Marty's kid Right That's what he said Let Marty's boy handle it

Let the Hurley He kid handle it See if he can do this He's handled some of the other stuff Well, I'll be listening to it. I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited to hear a little more shoddy. What's your article on today? Go to dmagine.com.

Yeah. I read Jake's. I wrote about, uh, Jake kind of ran out this morning like, I don't think I could jump on the sales meeting. Got to finish this article. So I said. Oh, okay.

Well, whatever he was in. He was all out of breath. Yeah. Half naked. I covered an Arctic blast. Um, yeah, I just wrote a, about Javante. It's a great deal for them last year. Signed him for $3 million. Got a lot of value out of him and now seems to be a, I don't know what to make of the Cowboys comments on it,

but among fandom, it seems like there's a push for, you got to bring back our Javante. And I would caution against that. Obviously, it depends on the price, but you've kind of built a team that I think you could have a running back that can just kind of cycle through and treadmill Is it the old Giovante proves why you don't sign Giovante? Might be. Might be.

It would be crazy to look at last season and think that the big thing that happened is that they got Javante. That's not what changed about that. No, they got offensive coordinator calling and installing plays differently. The offensive line you've put, you know, it's like acknowledge that the things you've done

have worked, you know? You have good receivers that they have to cover. You have a quarterback that puts you in the right play. Did Javentzzi stand that? Like George Pickens has stood out. He does a little more, you know. He does after contact, but I don't. I'm just saying like as far as...

He's not in the universe of Pickens. No, the marginal differences. Across the NFL, yes. George Pickens will stand, you know, wow, this is one of, I could see right there. No, it's also like four times as much money, but that's where it gets a little bit, how much does it really matter? But you've got to be able to find another guy. Love the guy. He fall in love with a running back easily,

and I think Jerry does too, just as the year goes on. I don't know why, but we all do. So are you saying you advocate for letting him walk? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I'm on board with that. Plus it's Lipke time.

Let it go. What do you think? What's the Brandon situation right now? By the way, Brandon says he could come on late tomorrow, and I think we should just do him next week. I don't know what you guys think about that. Okay. I was going to ask you if you were comfortable asking him

if he would break the news whenever he signs on our show. Sure. And have people must credit at the dumb zone. 69. Yeah, so that'd be a good bit. If Adam Schaefter releases it, he's got to. Yeah. At Dumbzone first.

And then we could start. With this big fat head behind me. We could try to put numbers on the subjective. What does that mean when you find out that, How many new subscribers from Adam Schaefter? Did you get a hot tub? What do we get out of that? Take a break or?

Oh, yeah. I thought you had more. Oh, no. My bad. Like your voice, mouth looked like he was about to say stuff. The dumsa, dums. He was always giving gifts. Thanks, Pat.

I didn't write shit because I'm not a writer. And I just want to say it was, there's a lot of people here. Thanks. It was really amazing to be his little baby brother. Yeah, I'm not just going to sit up here and break down on you, but thank you for coming. Pat's a fucking champion, and always will be. Just make no mistake, he wants me to say this.

He's not with God. He's fucking dead. He's not religious. Thanks for your thoughts, but he's fucking dead. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. You know, we are, today's business Wednesday, generally. We're going to have Business Friday. Tomorrow is our last day here at American Family Fields of Phoenix.

I must say, what a great time the Milwaukee Brewers can offer you. Want you to come out to Phoenix. You can go down the road, check out a little Ranger baseball as well. But then come back here to the homie feeling of a place that owns their own ballpark. The Brewers, they do it right. out here. I have a couple buddies that are deep in the there's a yay boo here

but they're deep in the travel ball game right now. Their entire social circle is built around 10 year olds in baseball and they have a big trip planned out here like a family trip to go see two or three teams out in the Phoenix area.

This is a great yeah. They love it. But as far as we always would talk about like oh go to a minor league game or something but This is very similar to that. And it's good weather. Come on out here.

Bring your kids. And our trip is brought to us by Qualus Roofing. We have that Qualus drone flying high overhead. So if you watch our YouTube presentation, you could actually see American Family Fields of Phoenix. As we got the drone following us everywhere. And Silverback Construction, Silverback Construction, we talk about Nate

you have likened him to his company logo and you had audio do you have that audio still or no because I got I got better audio I thought this was better

that makes me feel more like Nate not the grun okay who do you want to build your house that or this come on now I feel like that's you That's you opening like a 12-pack. Okay, hey, hey, I have all this. Hey, hold on, I have all this concrete over here.

It weighs a ton of them. I have to stack it up super, super high. Let me call my construction guy. Here he is. Swinging on in. Taking care of business. Looking strong. All right, now I've got all this really heavy stuff.

I need you to take it right here. Let me tag in. Oh, my God. That's more Nate's crew. Anyway, thanks to them. One week from tomorrow, so tomorrow's our last day here at the spring training. One week from tomorrow,

we will be at Conne Roso at the Star. We've been there before. We have. Was that our first ever remote? Kind of. First pay, yeah. First public remote. Yeah, I would think so.

I think Qualis Roofing actually had us at their place and brought me the two mushroom sandwich. And then the first, like, hey, we're opening this up to businesses. Like, Qualis didn't ask people to come join us. Like, but we were promoting it for people to come on. Yeah. And, yeah, that was Kanye Rousseau at the star.

Saw the latchkey kid throwing the football up to himself. Oh, yeah. On the little field out in front of the star, there was a kid throwing the ball to himself. just hoping Jerry would come down and claim him as his own. So next Thursday we'll have a PLE. Times are good. Well, the Qualist drone out there.

I think we could bring it out there? Is that airspace? Why was the airspace closed in like El Paso or something? What do you know about that? I kind of just moved past that story because, you know, it quickly turned into, oh, is this evidence of we don't have the proper people in charge that are not experienced.

they overreacted to this or that. I do know that there's, there are cartel drones and American drones fighting them and keeping eye on them on the border. That's a fun thing to think about. It was speculated that these, it was like cartel drone operations had, um, but are the cartel drones bringing drugs? No, I think it's like recon. You know, it's like advanced.

Really? Reconnaissance for, like where can you? Yeah. Is this our whole future? drones fighting each other yeah of course we won't lose any actual people yeah i mean i don't that this is like this is probably you know gummy thought too but nobody brings up that about drones is like people fewer people do die now in war right i mean it's in escapable it's in that blink book war will be just shutting down the other country's internet right so you know things

Or stopping food supplies? Yeah, that's how you, yes. What if we all just started getting along instead? Can we do that? This guy. Oh, homo. Want to do some news? Sure, yeah.

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listen to your wife in at Poncha Outdoors. You can't do that either. No, I do. I'm changing things, man. You guys have changed me on this trip. Okay. I have a much better outlook towards the future. You really need a donut with ice cream in between another donut.

I don't think you do. Did you do that? No. Were you there? No. Oh, I thought you went. We took a trip. I mean, it was not down the street.

It was a 20-minute drive. A little journey. He was in the middle of a Heisman run. I was playing college football listening to a live recording of IJB. And then when they were done, I thought, it was pretty good into my night. Boy, how many people would just love to trade places with you? I know.

Got to see it live. Guys suck. This is a tricky one. Everything is pedophilia now in the news, by the way. My Epstein note of the day is the sports top. in is one of the things, one of the materials that was included was a diary of a victim. And the victim recounted meeting two people with the Washington football team, probably the Redskins at the time.

Recounted, not recanted? Recounted. Okay. Was telling the story of meeting. I'll see if I can read the exact quote here. This is underage. I don't know for sure that it was underage, but I know that it's just listed as a victim,

where she wrote, Joe Gibbs is so nice, but Dan Snyder is a pig. So even in the Epstein files, and it's crazy how much NFL talk there is in here because Woody Johnson owns the Jets, Stephen Ross is listed in here. That's a giant's guy?

dolphins. Steve Tish is a partial owner of the Giants. So anyways. But on the unfortunate local Pito front, this one I think is at least an interesting question. So you have a private school, Heritage Christian Academy in Hazlitt, and there is panic after parents discovered that lead pastor, he has a son who works there

and that son was convicted of an indecent sex act with a child in 2016 12 year old I don't know how old this guy is but I know that he's not currently 23 so he wasn't 13 at the time he's like an adult okay so let's say 25 at the time

I could show you a photo but he looks like any regular shmegular 30s guy. So he is a convicted sex offender. And did you know that they have to register and get a like a threat level assigned to them of low, medium, or high? No.

Yeah. They have like a Madden rating or they have like awareness and quickness. So what's happening? Well, what's happening? as the parents are freaking out, they go to the news. There's nothing, I mean, it's not illegal. No, no, no, no.

They just found out. Oh. He did go to jail. They just found out. Unclear how long. Correct. They had kept that covered up. Amazing.

Okay, covered up. But when do you tell him? Do you, upon application at the school, say, hey, my son's a rehabilitated sex offender when he was. I mean, I don't know how old the guy was. You're never going to get a job. Right.

You probably do you. don't need a job at a school. That may be where we have to draw the line. Yeah, could this pastor have gotten a job somewhere else? Could he be like the running backs coach for the chiefs? Well, the sex offender doesn't have the job at the school, though, right? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Oh, I thought you were saying just his dad did.

No, his dad got him a job here. Oh. And he works there as a counselor and... No, no, no, you can't be a counselor at a school. Yeah, but it's a private school. No. And that's what I was going to say is this is, I bet you, extremely common. Yeah.

Yeah, but if you're at private school. Like you said, your parents, if you found out and you got your 12-year-old there, like, yeah, no. Can't work there. Sorry. Yes, you do want people to have been rehabilitated, but, you know, that Pito stuff, you don't know if you can rehabilitate out of them. Right? Isn't that the thing about that guy that got conked on the head and all of a sudden he was a pito guy? Yeah.

They had to get a big giant mallet and hit him again on the head to make him not. Right. Right. And when they hit him the first time, a cape appeared. And he was now pito guy. Pito man, yeah. Friscoe police arrested a third grade teacher charged with invasive visual recording. Well, that can mean a lot.

But not. Explain yourself. There aren't that many details, but he's a 48-year-old teacher at an elementary school who's been placed on leave. Sound of worse. Bard from all district property. I mean, they don't know how many recordings there are. They just know that he's been in charge with invasive visual recording. Are we talking potty?

Are we talking? It does matter where you. It does. Wouldn't it? Okay. Imagine Imagine you just find out that your kid's teacher

has hard drives full of your kids just eating their snack but it's on film and they've got it organized like meticulously by kids spaghetti Wednesday buy food

there's nothing sexual about it at all. Well you don't know what he's using for. There's nothing conventionally to your point In fact, you have the strong sense that he is jerking off to it. Right.

But there's no... There's no indications of any foul play in the video at all. And it's just... Is that invasive? It's just peach cup. It is invasive. I mean, what was that one? Oh, is we're at Waterberger.

Watching T.C. eat. That's erotic. Invasive, for sure. But I'm saying, I see where you could look at that and be like, whoa. What is that double? Yeah, I don't know. They do the thing at my kid's school, and we have a pretty low-rent version of this, but they take pictures throughout the day and upload them to the app.

What do you mean? Like they photo... Yeah, at the end of the day, I can see these are the skills that they did, and then here's four pictures of him at recess. Yeah, and I assume that's being done. But we are grooming them just to act normal with a camera in your face at all times. I used to think that when my kids were like two, because you would try to... They see the camera come out, and then they run at the camera.

And you want them to, oh, no, I just, I want it to be to where they would just act naturally and not think that they're on camera. And I guess we're teaching society to be that. Yeah, they still hate it. I mean, even before they were one, Brooks would act different when a camera came out. They're just very aware of it. I don't want to get into the weeds on this Texas politics story regarding real. life, Marianette Dahl, Don Huffines. He's a former state senator.

He's running for computer controller. He gets to be in charge of all the computers in the state of Texas as the comptroller. I don't think that's what that means. Or no, he gets to reply to all the big accounts with memes on all the computers. No, he's running for something. It doesn't matter. Comp Troller. The point is...

I always wonder what that is. I had to email the Wiley CompTroller for my sprinkler system. did you that got dinged by the fiber company so they do something with that and TC works on the board of adjustments which I don't think is in any way related but it's a series of words

I think you are it's pronounced controller but I feel like that's a bad idea Comptroller because if you say controller It's pronounced Comptroller It's pronounced controller But if you say controller people aren't going to know what you mean If you say comptroller they'd be like

Oh yeah that word I see all the time on billboards Right. I think we should move to just calling a comp trodler. You emailed your comp troller. Did they trollin out there? Did you feel? He's on the case. Are you satisfied with? Not yet.

We're not resolved. But he's on it. Or he's at least made you feel. Yeah. So what we have at hand here is really just a little bit of political fodder, making a story probably out of nothing. But as the Jeffrey Epstein case is all the rage and people have zeroed in on his property in New Mexico, which you could have heard about many, many years ago on the popular podcast, it's just banter.

Although I don't know that I ever called it Zorro Ranch. I just knew he had a property in New Mexico and he was storing a lot of cum there because he was trying to impregnate all these women. It was like his weirdo genetic transhuman place. Don Huffeins now owns that property. The car guy? The car guy. Tangentially, yes. But he's a politician?

Long time. And you say a literal marionette. What do you mean by that? He just looks like a... He looks like Teddy Perkins from the Atlanta episode. I've never seen anyone who looks... He gives me the... Oh.

His doctor could do a little better job of being natural. Yeah. Huh. But it calls into question... What have you got a great deal? You're supposed to not take advantage of... It's like a murder house, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Or the statue. Yeah, this is the figure of golf course. You're going to throw the statue away? What if I paid five grand for it? It would have cost me $100,000 a year. You don't love it when someone who, and I believe it might be someone who's already come up on the show, but you know Neverland Ranch was actually bought by, I believe, one of Jeffrey Epstein's friend.

Ron Berkel, a guy that he made his money in Greenfield. grocery stores and yeah, flew on the plane many times. Definitely a pedophile. Found out there was a place for pedophiles said, I'll buy that and we're all just fine with it. You don't like that. A little mini roller coaster? Sweet.

It's already there. Yeah. The kids will love it. They're going to have so much room for activities. Wait, you already have a door inside a closet for a secret room? They should have just had an auction for Neverland Ranch and then put everyone who bid on it in jail. And instead, this guy walks around. So this was all on the up and up.

So you're saying the Don Huffines thing could be just normal. Of course it is. But it's a Mamba mentality. He said this would usually cost me $10 million. It's only costing $7 now because of the whole pedophiles. Yeah, I don't know that for sure. I just know he bought it. He's saying, look, I did this on the up and up.

It went to the victims of state, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Get off my ass. And far be it for me to agree with Don Huffines. But if you could, if you told me this place was, used for torture and it's half off, then the back half of that sentence is going to do a lot of lifting for me. He's in a race. The race has opponents.

The opponents just want a headline that says Huffines and Epstein next to each other. Just let the magic work from there. Yeah. Oh, speaking of races and opponents, I meant to bring this up earlier. Mm-hmm. You have thoughts on this Colbert situation? Not really. What is it?

Not really. So he had a guy, some Texas. politician on. He's running, so he's trying to get into the Senate, right? Against Jasmine Crockett. And all I know about her is she's black and very outspoken. You've seen her in

viral clips. Well, first against Jasmine Crockett and then against either John Cornyn or Ken Paxton. Yeah, this is just the Democrats against each other, right? At first. Yeah. Which might even be futile in the end, right? It doesn't, it might not matter, but they're saying, oh, no, all

this buzz, we're going to flip it blue. Okay, who But so, Colbert, they made a big stink out of saying the FCC wouldn't let us air this interview because of the equal time provision. They kind of said that real fast.

But they basically just said, the FCC won't let us air this on CBS. We're going to put it on YouTube. And I guess it was. Their lawyers were concerned. The FCC did issue a, hey, you should be concerned about the equal time provision, which seems like it's an antiquated notion these days.

Yeah. Because other new, you know, then, you know, Fox will only have certain people on. They're like, well, that's news. You don't have to do it. Okay. Well, it's a very, you know, selective way to enforce this provision by this entity that you don't really even know how much power they have. So my point here is no one.

really watches Colbert or any of the late night shows. They made this stink where he's like, the FCC won't allow us to do it. We're going to put it on YouTube. The YouTube thing has 20 million views. And his show usually gets like a million views in that. So is this just a brilliant Colbert move? Yeah. Colbert or Tala Rico.

Yeah, were they in this together? Is Colbert anti-Jasmine Crockett? or I don't know. No, I don't think. I would be surprised if Colbert has a position that is manifested in his decisions on who he wants in the Texas Senate primary. I just thought it was, I thought it, I just, with all of that knowing that his ratings actually are not that good, and then they made this big stink, and you just wonder,

is this all manufactured? Isn't he supposed to be done? I thought he's done pretty soon. I thought it was like the spring. he's just lame ducking that long well they they announced that he's gone when his contract runs out

okay I suppose they could pull the plug anytime if they wanted well because I saw a clip too where he's like he's doing the they also told me not to talk about this but now I'm talking about it it all feels and yeah I don't care who wins so I find it well

no I was more interested in the whole I sent people to my YouTube page and it actually got way better rating Yeah, than we ever got on CBS. There's no way an interview with James Telerico gets 20 million views another way. Right. So if you want to sue us again. Yeah.

This is a bizarre local story. By the way, you know it's snowing, like a lot, two hours from here. Maybe two, two and a half hour drive from here to Flagstaff. North? It's probably north, right? Yeah. You got it. To the high country, baby.

You commented on the wind But yeah, we were watching the news last night And they're boy Phoenix is a cocky market What do you mean? There's just some There's an air of like I've kind of made it out here

On the news Just the cocky market What number are they? The broadcasters? Yeah, more than you would think The Fox Weather guy Was a showboat of the highest order Just flipping his hair around

Like he thought it You're just cool hot shit Jake's grandpa would have been Disgusting Not good So this story comes to us from here in Arizona. What's the market size? I bet it's like seven.

I thought I saw you searching it. I am. Police in Gilbert, Arizona, are looking to identify another person of interest in a case that centers around a man who is drugging his wife and paying other men to come have sex with her while he recorded it. Well, for better or for worse, right? That's what she said in front of God. No one never sticks to their vows these days, folks. You hate to see it. Court records revealed that the victim told police she found Reddit messages of her husband

using fake names and her nude photos to pose as a swinger couple. That's terrifying. And let me tell you something, too, based on this photo of this man, Sorry, Dan. Well, perhaps. If having sex with a passed out woman is your dream, you can do that at any size. This is a large man.

Big fella, shirt off in the photos. And, yeah. He was posting this on. And the weird thing is, this is his wife. Well, how old is he? Doesn't say. I was going to say, though, society, when I grew up, having sex of the passed out woman

was part of pop culture I know the movie 16 candles illustrated now it was a hot passed out woman I don't know if that made it better but I believe you know what this guy is you're right he's 38

but I believe Anthony Michael Hall that was what his prize was at the end of the movie and little me was like okay that's probably also the only way I'm ever going to get a lady me and Anthony Michael Hall, a couple nerds.

Like you think that the big don't-dos of society are pretty static throughout time. Like you just would have thought, my parents' whole lives. Everyone agreed, don't rape. Well, it's because the word of rape. Well, now the term rape, right? Yeah.

Because at the end, afterwards, she was kind of like fired up about the whole thing. She liked them. I just, I look back at the 60s. I think that there was plenty of things. Things were less of a gray area than that that people were doing. One detail in this case that is interesting is the update is that they've caught a second person. They're looking for a third guys that the husband was tagging in.

But one of the guys, they identified him because in the assault, he is wearing a T-shirt, advertising his business powerhouse dent repair including his cell phone number on the logo so for all you shirt wears during sex out there be aware that's why you take it off yeah because I don't want to have any signifiers I don't have any other questions I switched to only

plain shirts while having sex yeah you don't want anybody asking you questions about the lepracon yeah yeah that's it would you remit sex I'd be having sex and they'd be like, oh, do you go to Oklahoma? No, no, I just got this T-shirt at a game. Yeah, no, my buddy's son plays there, actually. I wear a shirt with another guy's dent repair company in his own at the bottom. Did the Gilbert Police Department pull the Louisville stunt of they had to get in there and see for themselves?

Yeah, you know, it seems like there is a lot of information in this case. Having to get in there and see for themselves. And speaking of that, I... I told you, I told the boys watching the news last night. They lead with the Guthrie thing every night out here. And last night it was a local sheriff. And I love these guys, man. I love when they get their moment, you know?

Pima County, or however you say it. But there was no world where he was ever going to be talking to 50 million people. That's what you see on his face every time. And now he's up there, but he still thinks the moment calls for a soliloquy. So he's up there, I swear to God. He just looked right down the barrel last night. He's like, just let her go. Just let it, like he's been Affleck.

He's talking to the... Yeah, just let her go. Like, come on, dude. That's what I was thinking yesterday about Savannah Guthrie issuing her, like I'm talking to the kidnappers. I think it feels more natural for her because she's on TV, so I think I'm used to seeing her as that sort of avatar for... But the small town sheriff who gets thrust into national spotlight is always great.

That guy telling 19-year-old Jake that you shouldn't do, drugs. Like, are the chances you or, like, which is a better chance? 19-year-old Jake or current kidnapper is going to be taking that, like, really like, wow, that guy just spoke to me, just shook me straight a little bit. That's all he needed. And if that would enough. But that's the last guy.

The award is now $100,000 or reward. I thought the conversation we had last night around it was pretty good of just, it sure seems like she's dead. And if she's dead, I think there's a decent chance that. She's buried. They're in the wind. Like, I don't know that we're going to get an end to this story. I think that's the chalk now.

I think that we're going to be talking about the 10th anniversary of whatever... Yeah. Savannah Guthrie's mom went missing. You're going to be doing this on today in history. What if she was taken by the same people that took Elizabeth Smart? They got caught. Yeah, but now they're now moving on to old... Like, they somehow escaped.

Because that lady... Wanda Barzee? She's out. Yeah. Wanda's out? Yeah. Well, I mean, you know. If we did find out that one that took Savannah Guthrie's mom, that would be a shocking revelation.

Yeah, I guess you're right. There's the news. Powerhouse Dent, 4.8. Wow, they haven't got to it yet. That's got to be going down. Going through these reviews, I thought somebody would have said something. Not yet. And subscribe.

That was incredible. Maybe that falls on the show account. But the guy, yeah, the guy, Evan was great. Evan was fantastic. You know the core of that story is a guy who's proud of his wife. I don't think that's the table. I want other people to understand how great she is. I wouldn't want to say that out loud.

I want to show my wife off. I don't. She is too modest. Right. And so that's why I have to. I have to drug her so that you guys can understand why this is the best woman in the world. And I'm in love with her. I had a drug dealer would go to Swingers clubs in Dallas.

We have a, I mean, it's shocking to me, but a shocking number of listeners who are engaged in various times. You know some of them. We got a few throuples. Yeah. Jake and I interviewed a lady whose professional work was forming throuples. Yeah. You could hire her in.

Come hang out with you for the weekend. You and your wife, yeah, are there. Remember I was talking about Matt Grimm's Ridge earlier? Mm-hmm. I was not referring to his Ridge wallet. Oh, look. Blake's got his Ridge wallet right here. Look at that.

How small it is. Would you just morph here from the future? Kind of. Guess what? You're not stealing my information or my identity. It's, oh, it's got that blocking thing on it? Yeah. Oh, awesome.

And it's not that giant leather, brick that is falling apart? I mean, I used to wrap my wallet in tinfoil. Not anymore. Now that I have a RIFID. You'd have to sit on it. Yeah, it's hard to fit in your pocket. Yeah.

It's the Ridge 2.0. Get 10% off at Ridge by using the promo code DumbZone at checkout. Ridge.com. Use promo code Dumbzone. You're all set after purchase. They ask you where you heard about it. Tell them the Dumb zone. Ooh, they have air tag attachments, too.

These are badass. That should speak to you. He's very cool. Jake's leaving his wallet everywhere. Yeah, on the ground. Yeah. 20 plus years, one wallet. Who wants it?

Nobody. None of you. None of you have had a wallet as long as I have. I'm only replacing it because of the Ridge 2.0. All right, so Viewer Mail birthdays, did we get any others that rolled in? Did I close my email? I did.

Viewer mail birthdays, let's go with Dear Dan does cool sex two chicks 69 That's a very aim screen name Yeah I like it Today is the 32nd birthday of my Icelandic bride Asta pasta without the pee I did not wake her up in that special way

But a van Taylor is in her near future Wow that's a great story Tautils The only time I've ever heard a guy used tonsils and sex talk. He said, I want to do something to your tonsils? Yeah, to his ISIS queen. That's what they called his girlfriend.

Let's see. That's like a three-for-one. Her leaders are Jake's Mom's Wicked Witch from the Wizard of Oz voice and Blake's all-female book club. Drop request of Dan calling his wife a bitch. Pick attached of her Mondo-Banging T's. See you in a month. From the ad.

from dummy grant in Austin, and he did send a picture that you can see in the folder. That's our boy. Yeah, good dude. But don't put it on screen. His quarantine slam queen is what he used to call her. Now he calls her a wife. There may be no actual shirt on his wife.

Mando indeed. When he sent a photo. So let's, we'll just keep that in the folder. What are you, Jake Paul? Get banned for like revenge porn or something. By the way, when's our report on clavicular? Are we going to tell Dan about, I'm going to start calling Dan an old cell? He certainly is to clavicular.

Matt, you up on clavicular? You guys going to, not you, I know not you. I feel like two weeks ago I'd never heard the word, and now everywhere I turned. But two months ago, whenever we very, very first, or at least I, by passing, heard it, that was the time to ask the roast twins, because now we're out of the winter. Oh, we're way out. Yeah. They'd be, yeah, so over it.

The most popular person on the... This is the best time to ask, though. The most pop... You're right. It's not going to get better. Yeah. The most popular person on the internet right now, Dan, is a streamer whose entire bit is just looking really, really hot.

He's a man. He's probably in his early 20s. And he's gone through all manner of surgeries, injections. The big one that always grabs the headline is himself, and he's a very... apparently been doing this since he was a child, will use a hammer along his jaw to like break his jaw and get it going in the right direction. Get the right aspect ratio on his, because, and I actually listened to an interview with him and he's, I think he's a plant. That's a whole other conversation. But he's just pointing out something that intuitively you know, which is that a better looking person has an easier time in life.

Why are we doing this at the end of the show here? I need to do more. I need to do more. And he may be in town. Like Phoenix. Yeah, the big headline-grabbing thing was whenever he got frame-mogged by the ASU frat-leader and you would assume the ASU frat-leaders in the Phoenix area.

We found out the frame-mogging ASU frat-leaders of GDI too. Not even affiliated. He's a Manosphere-adjacent influencer. Bro, in the last week, he's had five like leg, like, New York Times, the Atlantic, the Guardian. The Adam Friedland Show. Yeah, he's already something that's going on. There's no doubt that Vegas Mike is rearranging his whole thing

to accommodate the existence of this new person in the space. Dan's getting frame-logged right now. He's live-streamed himself running over a pedestrian with his Tesla cyber truck and being filmed chanting the lyrics to Kanye West's high-level. Hitler in a nightclub. Yes. He was with Nick Fuentes and the boys. It's the new wave, man.

Clavicular. We need to break Blake's jaw. For the show, would you do a small break? No. All right. What if we got Clayton real angular? He doesn't seem open to the idea. Trip back to the donut ice cream shop tonight.

Yeah, that could help. Let's see if it helps. Game day men's. Health presents on this day in history. So today, as we move on here, is let's find it. I'm all digital now. Today is one less day until the show travels to Brazil. February 18th, Wednesday, February 18th, on this day in 1930,

the first photographic evidence of Pluto was discovered. Pluto, the dwarf planet, or is, are we a real? planet again. We don't know. So the same day, 1930, which was bigger to history? We first got a look at Pluto. And same day, for the first time ever, a cow is flown in an airplane. Why? Why was that like a threshold that they had been waiting to cross?

It's a big animal. And how did they decide? So, apparently this was kind of like... Oh, there's more. You ask questions. I have answers. I love it. Because I asked that same question when I saw this as a note on my today and hiss.

I'm like, wait, what if we looked into this a little more? Who cares if a cow was flown? Also milked, by the way. And then the milk was put into little containers with little tiny parachutes and dropped. I'm not kidding. Your little helmet? I don't know it out. Little goggles.

But it was the onset of the Great Depression. That's tough. And this greatly diminished the market for this new thing called the airplane. Airplanes were newfangled back then and scary. And they weren't taken off. Yeah, yeah. No pun. Okay.

Like, you know, your Rockefellers hoped. Because of the Depression. In fact, famous aviators, Edward Stinson and Eleanor Smith, along with Charles Lindbergh, took part in this international aircraft exposition in St. Louis to help promote airplanes and draw crowds. So they invited like, let's get the most famous airplane people in the world here. And then we'll get a bunch of people here. and what we're going to do, well, up until then, no cow had ever flown in a plane.

So they thought if we could get a cow airborne, that would generate buzz about planes. This is the most hot rod idea I've ever heard. The explanation has not explained anything. It will show the world the stability and safety of aircraft and demonstrate the possibility of aviation as an effective means to transport livestock. We're in a battle. We got the railroads over here, like, look, nothing will ever be better than this. We can get your cow across the country in four days. And now you got these other, like, wait.

Doesn't that inspire confidence in the economy? I got a plane. I can get the cow right across the country. Nah, it's never been done, and it can't be done. This is just that bird. This is putting the blue angels out there for the nurses during the pandemic. This is just bad times. the government starts scrambling.

Put a cow on a plane. They'll love it. People will love it. They'll be fired up about it. I support it. They saved special milk for Charles Lindberg, by the way. He was the most famous guy there was. Did you know that I think it's Skillman in Dallas used to be called Lindberg Street?

Have you heard about this, Dan? No. He was making his big tour around the country and wherever he flew into Love Field. They said, we're so excited. We're going to name it Lindberg Street. Then World War II rolled around. He said a couple of things about the Nazis that were a little too approving. And he got canceled.

They took his name off the street. An early cancellation. Damn. First his kid gets kidnapped and killed? Mm-hmm. Got that sweet milk, though. Yeah. Get that milk.

They can't take that away. They put the milk in tiny bottles. Tiny little, well, let me see. I'd like to focus on that part of the story. It wasn't bottles. So they milked the cow in the air? Milked in flight. Why?

By Ellsworth Bunce. You know why? It's a cooler story. Why do they turn it into Stivo and Henry Rollins? The year was then put into containers attached to parachutes. It just says containers attached to parachutes and tossed out the aircraft as it flew over the onlookers in the city below. God, we've always loved bits. Shut up bits.

I think the cow is in like the Dairy Hall of Fame. Of course. Go on. That's also in Arlington. Wisconsin. Probably is. Most stuff is in Arlington. Who else would even be in it?

I don't know. Some of the other great cows of history. The guy that pasteurized it, right? Louis Pasteur. The Twister one. Yeah. Yeah. Like your movie cows?

Uh-huh. Sure. That's a big one. Wizard of Oz? Yeah. Was there a cow in that one? The Chick-fil-A cows. The Chick-fil-A cows.

They're in for sure. ambassadors of the game. That was a Richards group deal, I believe. Before he got canceled. Also true. On this day in 1986, Jeff Keith, a 22-year-old student from Boston College completes a run across the U.S.

Despite having lost one leg to cancer. During the run? I think he actually used that leg. As his fake leg. Could you do that? Use your old leg as a fake leg. Yeah, just bronze it or whatever, or plastic it. Yeah, you get it taxidermied and get it filled out with microchips so that it responds to you.

Our movie The Week had a big fake leg. Oh, yeah. Tears of the Sun, one of the refugees is walking around a fake leg and then they shoot the leg. If you're going to get shot at, having a fake leg actually comes in pretty handy. Because it gets riddled with bullets. You were watching a movie last night? No, two nights ago. This is the one from yesterday that we were talking about.

Oh, okay. Yeah, Matt was asking, is there a movie night? I told him I was not the booking department. Blake had some install to work on to clean up some third down issues. So we have another, why don't you just bring the other TV out into there? And you got one TV is going with, you know, the high-tee movie of the night, and the other one's got... I don't want T.C. to scout me.

I couldn't really get a beat on the offense yesterday. Blake put a hurting on me pretty quick. I'm not a guy who's going to move a TV, if that's what you're thinking. Well, no, I know he will. We've already moved it into his bedroom. Out of my room. We had to switch dressers.

Mine wouldn't fit the TV. Oh, yeah, we got a dresser in his room that now goes across his closet. He can't get in the closet. I don't even want to know what's going on back there. I've done two TVs before. It's a land of amazing luxury. He's condescending me like I can't.

I don't relate to you moving your TV for your Xbox. Meanwhile, he eats ice cream with like donuts around it. Right. And it takes a half hour drive to go to it. And hopefully we do it again. That was fellowship. You would have loved this place. It was so good.

I do want you guys to keep driving because because of my, rental car fiasco, the guy gave me a free tank of gas at the end. It was mentioned that he's like, I need to burn a little. He's like turning in bone dry. I'm like, we'll do, bro. We high five. Big dog him. Not big dog him, but I got boss this morning at the gas station.

Oh, nice. I don't want to be boss. You don't like a boss? I think I like a boss. Condescending. He did not mean boss. He saw you pour hot water in your coffee. Hey boss.

You got it, boss. Like he knows on the last The farthest thing from a boss And then he wanted to tell me it right to my face That's why he's trying to elevate you He's trying to get you a little closer On this day in 1990 Dale Earnhardt

Was leading the Daytona 500 For 499 miles But his tire blew out on the last lap And Derek Cope Gets the win Derek Cope Derek Cope. Earnhardt ends up finishing fifth.

And that would be the worst thing that ever happened to Dale Earnhardt at Daytona. Oh, good. When's the last time you watched the broadcast of the fateful one? Dale Earnhardt dying at Daytona? Yeah. Pop it on YouTube? The last time will be the next time. Okay.

Or the first time. Like, I've never watched that. It is supremely compelling television. Really? It's insane. I mean, like, because against, like, the, it's, Waltrip is broadcasting while Waltrip wins. It's like, I don't know enough about, but they're brothers, right?

Yeah. And so, yeah, the color commentator is watching his brother's first ever win at Daytona. And then, like, while he's going crazy about that, he's like, oh, something happened to Dale. God, I hope Dale's all right. And then he's not. And then he's crying because of his brother. No, he's definitely not. And then, of course, you got the press conference.

That's an all-time great moment. Head to NASCAR coming out. We lost Dale. I'm glad you think it's funny. I just remember the next day was one of the Sunday, unless it was that day, I guess, was the Sunday ticket stock. Ticket stock used to go like three days.

Just a brutal. Sunday was a brutal day. Nobody wanted to be there. I can't imagine. Advertisers. I cannot imagine. But yeah, that was Dale Earnhardt Day, which was this day in 2001. Wow.

Same day. On this day in 2021, Ted Cruz. Hit the high road or hit the... Returned home. Okay. From his one day trip to Mexico during the winter storm saying it was obviously a mistake. the time, he seemed a little bit like, oh, you know what? I actually think this is the time that I will kind of apologize.

It might have been like less than a week later. I remember him on stage in Florida, like joking about it. Yeah. Like, ah. And it's not like some people cared about that. He doesn't own it now. Right. You know, it's not like it carried over to now.

He may be my least favorite politician of all time. Interesting. For real. Just pound for pound. Surpassing Aaron Burr. Finally. Right. Had enough a Lloyd Doggett.

And on this day in 2012, Jake, ABC News contributor and activist, Elizabeth Smart was married. And star of The Masked Dancer. Did you watch her? Did we talk about her documentary? You watched it. Yeah. You didn't watch it yet? No.

You won't? I feel like I know the story fairly well. I feel like she's got her act together tremendously well for someone. who was got more than that yeah she's not like taking captive and brutally raped for 10 year or whatever it was it's when we were hyping up how attractive she was you didn't have to just say brutally raped not brutally i guess i don't know brutally was what you're right you're right it's just like brutally implies i don't think any of them are sensitive yeah i don't think any of them i think you can have a non brutal rape like a statutory geez

We were doing so good. Well, I'm just saying they could be gentle and they can't consent, but if they could. You wouldn't say the word brutal. On this day in Dumb Zone history, today is what? The 17th, did I say? 18th. 18th. Here in 2021, we're still in the freeze.

And I think you alluded to this yesterday, Dan, but Dan's daughter started boiling snow to be able to wash and flush. Dang. While Dan is playing Call of Duty at Mike and Cash's apartment. It hurt me, more than that. than it hurt them. Yeah. Just knowing that they were going through that. We had Clay Jenkins on.

Well, that's big. Hey, guys. Hey, it's good to be with you. He had Jacob Silge voice. Jacob Silge, one of the most underrated characters in SNL history. It was when Tina Faye did Weekend Update. And Will Ferrell had a character that suffered from voice of modulation. He couldn't modulate his voice in any way.

It is very Jason Garrett. But that's how Clay, Clay Jenkins talks like that, but he also kind of has. Tire talk a little bit. That was under my breath. He was hot shit, man. He thought he was headed for the Tala Rico zone, I bet. I think he's still the county commissioner, right?

Yeah, that's probably, you know, he's older, so he's still in charge. His big moving up in the world was taking over the lawn car empire. As a partner? Yeah. Oh, for real? Jenkins' long car and something else now. The long... Yeah, you know what happened to him, Dan?

Yeah. I don't. Killed himself after his daughter died from an overdose. Oh, that's not good. The guy from all the commercials. But then someone's got to carry the mantle after that. But he doesn't get up on the trucks, though. Was he one of the reasons the Rangers were able to trade for A-Rod?

Or signed A-Rod? Maybe. I don't understand that. Fergie? I want that documentary. Oh. Just all the cricket people that funded the Rangers and the late aughts. Oh, was that a thing?

Yeah. Oh. All the local TV money? Oh, okay. Yeah. He definitely was advertising on games. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway.

Daddy's baby girl. That's not her, is it? No, no, no. That's a different scandal, right? There's the hand surgery, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. In 2022, we're in the middle of the rich Down Ripple saga.

God, that feels like it was longer ago. And... What a time. Jake was saying Charlotte had to know about the pictures. Of her? Yeah, I mean... Pictures of Charlotte? They had pictures.

Yeah, he had taken pictures of her in the draft room. And I don't remember the context of what I was saying, but clearly it's something they had tried to keep in house. He would have been fired immediately. if she didn't know. Meaning that maybe they were having an affair or something. Ooh. Because if Jerry finds out that some guy's doing that to his daughter, wouldn't he, like, kill him?

I don't know, man. Have him killed? I don't know. I don't know how all those guys work. I know the one who's currently in charge right now, I've heard him talk about how he wishes his daughter had bigger tits. Yeah. That's actually, he's, you know.

I think it's an option on the table that he would have him killed if he's caught on camera taking upskirts of your daughter? He's different. He's a different kind of rich guy. It could go either way, is what I'm saying. I think that you have a point. I think he is a point.

I wish we could hear from Rich. Dowrimble? Yeah. Documents are signed. Just yeah, it's who NDA out. And then on the show last year, 2025, we talked about how the Bled changed their song from Dale Earnhardt,

seatbelt to you know who's seatbelt. Yeah. It was a band I was into. This from the makers of taking songs like let the bodies hit the floor off the air. So I was trying to remember the details of the Rich Dalrymple thing. So I googled Rich Dalrymple

Charlotte. The third result is from Reddit saying Jake just speculated that Dow Ripple kept his job because Charlotte and him were involved. Nice. You guys have owned that story throughout time and I want to congratulate you for that. Also, this was a big deal.

Wildly irresponsible. This was a big deal at the time. Dan had a boggle partner, Wendy E, who had kind of gone off the grid for about a week and was wondering if she didn't maybe pass on to the next plane. I think she's a grandma. Her little avatar would indicate. She's a grandma, a nice old lady. And yeah, I get concerned.

I'm still playing Wendy E. Okay, well, it was on this day that she had played for the first time long time. Right. I was very worried about it. Let you know she was still alive. Did she die? You know, we're pretty competitive.

It's tough to find someone that you're actually matched with. Match competitively. Do you have any plans to meet up with her like you did Ted, whatever the guy's name was? I've never DM'd Wendy E. To say, like, where do you live, Wendy? Like, I think she'd be freaked out. You know about him meeting up with his Tiger Woods friend? Were you here for that?

No, I know. I know the whole type. Was this like recently? No, no. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I had never met. Ron divers.

I just played Tiger Woods golf against him every night. But now you have met him? Well, yeah, we were going out to training camp, and he lived in California. Okay, yeah, yeah. I went, met him in his apartment and played Tiger Woods golf all night. Wow. What a story, right? Do you guys share the same sleeping bag?

I'll never tell. And then last thing, we learn Jeannie Bus and Jay Moore live on different floors of the same building. Not even the connecting floors. Pretty great. She's the first, he's the third. It's like a four-story, whatever, right? Yeah. Like they have another tenant in the building.

That works. I'm a... Forget separate bedroom. I've been made aware of the term... The bill-payer suite. That is now being used in the home space. Because it's so common now for there to be two bedrooms for the adults. Is it really?

Yeah. A separate floor is a different deal, but, man. Let's normalize it. Could you imagine getting in the elevator? You push her button, push yours. It opens up and she leaves. Doors close, then you get to go back to your own space. Maybe I'll see you later.

Just let me know. Let me know. Just slap on the ass on the way out. It's probably a big space. Do you think he has an office on her floor and vice versa? Come down? So, yeah, if they need to spend a little time. Got to be great.

All right, other birthdays today, we have George Teague is 55. Star. Star. Andy Moog is 66? I think the first autograph I ever got. Although that might have been Darcy Walkaluck. Yeah, I was just going to say it was probably Darcy Walkalook. Both early stars goaltenders.

Blake, Leveon Bell is 34. He's trying to take the Antonio Brown route. He's trying to be funny on Twitter. He's very, at least for comedy purposes, MAGA. He could go back to Pittsburgh. He was the reason I had Justin Bieber on the back of my Masta 3 for a year. God. Because you drafted him.

I kept him. Given recent developments, there's a decent chance that guy you want to watch list. He's printing out huge pictures of teen Bieber. Good bit. D.D. Gregorius is 36. He was a former Diamondback. Boy, he was going to fix everything for the Yankees once they got Jeter out of there. No, he's just kind of like an also-ran guy, his whole career, right?

He knows he. I think he was the starting his shortstop after. Was he the first couple years? Jake, we were trying to name ten Diamondbacks all time the other day. Oh, come on. You got your shilling in Randy Johnson. Luis Gonzalez. I went with Tony Womack.

That's a good one. World Series hero. Luis Gonzalez, I know Chris Young because he's the other Chris Young. Yeah. There's five. Did the Texas State Kid not play here? Paul Goldschmidt played here. Paul Goldschmidt.

I think they traded for Aeronado in the offseason. Ooh, that's a good one. What about Gregorius? Did you say he started here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, that's almost 10. Wait, who was, you said Womack. I thought they had an infielder.

Brandon Webb. Brandon Webb's a good one. I thought they had an infielder that made a big play in the World Series. Was Jeff Kent not ever here? That's an interesting question. Craig Counsel, yeah. Made a play maybe ended the World Series. And he's a brewer great.

That didn't go as poorly as it could have. No, TC carried us. That's true. I love baseball. There's no team that exists He couldn't name 10 players Of the history Right?

Yeah, I agree About 10 current Yeah Deity Gregorius though Really is your case If you were trying to tell Deuce Should you go into football or baseball He makes some money

Yeah, because you don't think of them as anything, right? $71 million in the career That's so cool. Cool. Alexander Mogilny is 57. He was the first Russian to defect to the NHL. Calgary Flames. Had a poster of him whenever I was a youth.

Oh, I have a still alive and an anchor word. This name, I think, is an anchor word. I'm going to say a name, and you tell me if it's an anchor word and if they fit into still alive. Yoko. Yeah. I think it's an anchor word. I bet she's still alive.

Yeah, that's the list, right? Well, that's the whole thing is. Okay. Yeah. Well, no, that's, but that is a very good one. I, uh, I think I would have remembered her dying, but who knows? But yes, getting Yoko Onode.

Yeah, that's, that's an anchor word. Banna White is 69. Matt Dillon is 62. I was thinking this morning, where's Matt Dillon been? Who cares? Like, what do you mean? Who cares? I mean, he's just a guy who is out there, good actor.

usually that kind of a guy is out there right now on social media spouting political opinions hey i haven't heard of this guy in 15 years working but oh here he is is he on cameo i don't know he's just kind of like probably just got a ton of money and like you know what i doubt he has a ton of money dude you think i think he's got a ton of money yeah is he more successful than kevin dillon way more i mean if there was ever a time where you got like three million in the bank that you can then invest and then this time was like 1992, it'd be pretty hard not to have a ton of money. Man, I don't know.

Like, athletes could do it. Like Kevin Dillon, the thing about it was the role he's playing is like his actual life. Yeah, I guess I just don't, that then elevated him for me. So I don't know. Matt Dillon's a big deal, dude. He was definitely, he was a big deal. You need to start realizing that. I would like to think.

He gave me the creeps. I hope that he did find the secret to life is just quietly enjoy. time with his family, and that's what he's been doing for 10, 15 years. Wild Things keeps coming up on the show. Dr. Dre is 61. Which one? Dan. It's a good question.

I think it's the one that you guys think of. But I'm wondering if Ed Lover sent him a text at midnight. I'm pretty sure the one that we think of has won a bunch of fights against women. Well, it's better than losing them. D's last name? D. Barnes? Yeah. Molly Ringwald is 58.

Take advice from somebody who smacked D. Barnes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sybil Shepard is 76. Matt Dillon Networth, $40 million. Dang. Gillian Michaels is 51. Is she in the politics game now? The personal trainer?

I think she's yelling at you about being a pussy. Probably in Arizona. Oh, there's no doubt. She may be the governor. Jake, Lee Boyd Malvo is 41. Ooh. Sniper? You got it.

And our Dumb's own birthday of the day. John Travolta, 72. Man, where do you begin? Where do you end? This car is getting the ladies going. Did we begin at Face Off? You can begin at face off? You can begin at the time when a couple years ago he was in

studio with the Musers because he had a new movie coming out that he had made with Fred Durst. That was really weird. You could go with the Cabana Boy stories where he was getting rubbed down and massaged for all those many years. He just wouldn't leave their crotches alone. He lived in a subdivision in Florida where he could fly his plane up through his driveway. That's right. One of the greats. The chicks of cream. Born on this day now dead.

George Gipp. All right. DC, I guess, I assume. The Notre Dame running back. Born on this day in 1895. Whenever the brakes are beating the boys, you just go out there and tell them win one for the Gipper. George Gip buried in 19.

He was in 2007. What? What? They had to get to the bottom of it. Why? They're trying to do some sort of Jurassic Park with old running backs? There's a make-a-wish kid who said his wish was to see the bones of George Gipp, and they didn't want to deny him.

The grandson of one of George Gipp's sisters wanted to determine if George Gipp had fought. bothered a child out of wedlock with an 18-year-old high school student. Well, probably. You're self-ist bitch? You're going to go dig this guy up over that? Let him lie. Just call it a yes and move on. Good grief.

They dug him up. They took his right femur. Oh! Give that back. And the test showed they did decide. It was on Moripovich. Shut up. He is not the father.

For real? He is not the father. That is so insane. Should have left him there. They should have put that woman in jail. Take her leg. See how you like that. Oops, sorry.

Also born on the Stay Now Dead, Hans Asperger. Boy, there's a lot of camp spins on him. Really? Yeah, he was operating in Austria during World War II. What do you think happened? Expansion of science. He loved them Nazis. He was like, he was, had a bunch of autistic kids under his care,

and he would be giving them notes on like, this one's probably more of a camp one, whereas this one can probably stay with me. They behave. I don't like that. It's not good. Also born on this day, now dead John Hughes. Was he the director of the film that indicated that?

Yes. Day rape slash raping someone who's actually just passed out? A nice cap on the, like a little ending to the movie. You wanted a happy ending. He's y'all's guy, man. Dead on the stay still dead. Michelangelo? He had the pain like a creole.

You probably have a good idea on the year or this. We've been doing this enough years, right? When he died? Yeah. So when he died. Yep, move on. When he lived. 1643?

1704. He lived for 88 years. I'm going to say the mid-1500s. You're going late-16-100s? Yeah. Yeah, I was going... Then give me early 1600s. Jake's right.

Died on this day in 1564. Wow. Look at that. You could live through the 80s in the 1560s. That is incredible. I'm very surprised. Yeah, because that's not like hearing about like Methuselah or something. How old are you?

He was 875. That's a real number. Like, do you think every 10 years they would kind of like guess at how old they were, though? Like, he forgot. Well, I've been around a long time. Like, my grandmother's the oldest surviving of her cohort. And so, like, all of her friends are dead, you know. But, like, for him, that period had to hit at, like, 45.

Like, they started dropping. And that's why you have to get a young wife. Absolutely. I hope he had a young wife. Like, why not 12? You know? I mean, his wife, no way she lived to 88. Okay, I want to back up.

I do not endorse why not 12? Well, I'm saying in 1564, they're like... Yeah, it is again to use a turn. I mean, they'll die at 30, so you better get them... Logrhythmically again. Right. It's not the same. If it were me, I would say, no.

Not okay. No, I know you say that. But if you're alive in that era and somebody's like, here, happy birthday, here's a slave. You'd be like, ah, you know what, morally? Absolutely not. I'm more along the lines of 2026 T.C. No. You're like I'm living in 15, 20.

Awesome. I didn't want to do that stuff anyway. Somebody didn't have them, though. Again, John Brown. Says here that... Okay, so you're telling me this guy? I don't know. It's going to be like bucking the trends of the day.

I hate to burst your bubbles here, as it were, but says Michelangelo was deeply fond of a young Roman nobleman named Tomaso del Cavieri. Well, there you go. You can't get him pregnant. Tomaso is a pretty gay name. Maybe in 1552 it was like rock. Doubtful, but...

Also, dead on the stay, J. Robert Oppenheimer. Carrie von Erick. Is he horny? Yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah, it seems like he was doing it. He did some sleeping around. In the movie, there's like a five-minute scene where Florence Pugh is just talking with him naked.

Oh. Harry Carey died on this day. Loved hot dog. Norma McCorvey. That is Jane Roe from the Roe versus Wade. Dallas, Texas. Really? She's from Dallas? I think so.

Got knocked up in Dallas? Dick down, Dallas. A place for sex. And died on this day one year ago. Gene Hackman. Wow. Is a cat eating him? This is a reptile, a helo monster.

Crawling through his eye sock. it right now. It was not in Arizona, but, you know, in the desert. Definitely in the desert. Yeah, Coach and Jimmy. And that's what happened on this day in history. So we do have closing remarks today. The ball has been called for for closing remarks and is brought to us by Frankl and Frankel.

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God, please mention the dumb zone. That would really help us. All right. Yeah, but Matt wanted to do some closing remarks today. Well, guys, I just wanted to take a minute. This is my fifth road trip with the dumb zone. And Dan and Jake really appreciate you inviting me every single time. It's been very cool.

Actually, I invited myself the first time, but... You're about to retire. Yeah, it sounds like he's about to say, this is going to be my last one. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. That's what it felt like. I'm not ready. That was a look.

I wish I had a picture of that. That's awesome. Yeah. What if... Dude. It's like, you know what? I've enjoyed it, but... Really, really cool.

Yeah. I'm heavily leveraged upon your present here. Yeah, I do know that I will pick up this microphone again. Would we put up a plaque of him like the Brewers have a Bud Seelig? Yeah. Out front? Yeah. We should.

Yeah. So thank you guys for inviting me. Clayton, Blake. Appreciate you accepting me. it's been awesome watching your work looking forward to doing it again TC you and I have known each other

kind of in passing getting to know each other a little bit better on this trip it's been wonderful it's been awesome watching your work and hang out with you I don't like where this is headed why is he getting out of Manila folder

I don't like this I don't like this yeah at least get home and also Matt Small thanks for the invite has been very cool and

And one fun, interesting fact, since I am the chief logistics officer of this operation focusing on ground operations, I have been tracking miles. Somewhere just south of Tucson, we crossed the 10,000 mile mark. Dang. For you driving for the dump zone. For me driving, the end of this trip will be close to halfway around the world. Two and from California. Twice.

You went from California twice, Denver, San Antonio, and Phoenix. That's incredible. Let's make it all the way around. We could have gone to China. Could have driven to Bangladesh or something. And if we do the circumnavigate Beltline Road, we let Matt drive us? Of course. Yeah, of course.

And then Brazil and back is going to get us close all the way around the world. So again, thank you guys. Appreciate it. Oh, that was better than I thought. Geez, Blake. You have low expectations? That picks up a mic and you stop the recording. That's MacGrim.

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