The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 2-3-25: Luka traded to the Lakers

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneLUKA WAS TRADED. We try to discuss the why's and how's of why our 25 year old wonder boy was traded to the Lakers (00:00) - Open: Luka traded to the Lakers (01:04:33) - Iztok Franko: What do we do now? (01:28:42) - Weekend check: Jake's trip to Meow Wolf (01:53:46) - News: Better protest? Luka or deportation? (02:13:23) - VM birthdays/Today in History with Ty Walker ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Clayton and For some reason Ty Walker we are here In our downtown Dallas DZ TV studios in the Fox 4 building where cars just drive in the parking lot garage opening nowadays. In the past they have driven in different ways here. I don't follow. Thought a car drove through the front. Oh okay yeah yeah there were some slight mods made to the front of the building after a disgruntled Fox viewer. We're doing mods. Guy who just sent his house redone. Yeah.

Does mods. Couple mods. It's unfortunate because I thought Blake, after everything I heard this weekend, was going to introduce himself as I'm Blake Basketball Jones. I can see what you did Friday night. It's what I do every Friday night. I listen to some Argyle Eagles basketball. What a game.

Yeah? Yeah. A little overtime thriller. Oh yeah, Blake Basketball Jones everybody. I like to keep those two lives a little separate. Good luck. Yeah, the Fox building is a buzz of or with Maverick's Luca trade talk. Two guys in the bathroom just now just kind of chopping it up. What do you think?

Dude, it's I do think it's it might be the biggest trade in NBA history Yeah, or the most shocking or the most like it's it Right now I'm saying the worst Sure, it's it's horror. This is a horrible horrible thing. It's a horrible day. I don't know that I Was trying to get my comp and I was in Cleveland when the Browns moved and when it was discovered and when the news broke and protests and craziness and it's like that. That's the thing. That's how big an NBA superstar, not any NBA superstar, that's how big this NBA superstar is in this city.

Well, I think he would be kind of anywhere that got him. It's like how big LeBron was as big as a sports franchise when he was in Cleveland. You know, and for much of his career, he's been that. That's like, but LeBron was different than, you know, KD, big star, but it was never that. Like he was the franchise. And the value of the franchise went up hundreds of millions of dollars based on him being on that franchise.

Yeah, no, that's a good comp because it leaves you with questions about, well, what am I supposed to do? Just like if your team moved. The only difference now is it's even more confusing because I imagine people in Cleveland at the time, well, they're mad at the organization. So why would they follow the team to another city that you just left with nothing?

Right, they would cheer for those players in Baltimore especially because Art Modell was the guy who was still there. Right, so now you're left with the rest of the team, and your guys on another team, which puts you in a little bit of a situation as far as all of us. And I don't know, people will say, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna talk about?

What are you gonna, are you gonna buy a jersey? I don't know, I think you just have to kinda wait and sort it out. But I definitely understand people, cause I'm close to it myself saying like, I'm just done with the Mavs, I don't. Yeah, no, I've had plenty of people reach out and show me screenshots of their canceled

MavsTV thingy subscription, and I'm sure they're gonna take a season ticket hit. Oh, oof, yeah. And because we talked about this yesterday and we're still talking about it, it's just not a... Even if they win the championship this year, it's not... that's not the only thing that it's about. There is something to having like your guy that you drafted, that you saw when he was 19. You know, part of the Dirk thing was that you saw him as not a great player

and grow into that and become it and then have the critics and he's got to overcome this and that and the loss to Miami, you know, the loss to Golden State, the comeback, the redemption, the he's gonna be the best player to never win a title to actually win the, like it meant so much.

That was probably my greatest sports memory in my history is the Mavs winning the title. Yeah, I would agree. And yours is longer than mine, but yeah, it's because you bonded with it. And you had to tell everyone from outside, this is kinda how it was with Romo, except when I was doing it for Romo,

I never even really believed it. But you would fight with people about Dirk. You would fight the soft moniker, you would fight the clutch number, you would show them these numbers, like actually he's better than Kobe in the clutch. And actually, you know, he's bodying up to KG, he's just as tough.

That's what was fun about it. The weird thing with Luca is, you didn't really have to tell anybody, he's just as tough. That's what was fun about it. The weird thing with Luka is, you didn't really have to tell anybody else what you had with Luka. We all just kind of assumed that everyone understood this. Everyone did in the whole league. Nobody would have ever even brought up trading for Luka. No, every fan base, every analyst, every GM.

No, there's just one guy now. It's amazing that you got that guy. Then you do everything you can to try to keep that guy, including paying an exorbitant salary because he was one of the best four or five young players in the history of the entire league. That's why those salary escalators kicked in and it was done in a CBA. They negotiated that so that the really, really, really good players could get something closer to

an actual approximation of their value. Even that wouldn't be. Luka in line for a 70 million dollar a year contract extension this summer. They can't offer that. And it's important to mention that CBA that you speak of there, the incentive to the player to make that amount of money that might approximate their real value, the league incentivizes the team to keep the player because you're the only one, obviously, that can offer it. So the league is set up.

Right. Yeah, you could offer that, and if he wants to leave, he has to take much less money to leave. Right. And it's not happened many times, but the only other time I guess it has happened would be Anthony Davis. But Anthony Davis was in a shitty situation in New Orleans and was begging out. Nothing could be further from the truth with Luca by Niko's own admission. The more I, we played a little bit of that press conference yesterday but the more I think about it the more nerved I am by it because I don't know what I was hoping for like if he, maybe he was gonna produce like a police report and I'm

like oh geez gotta stay away from Luca but, he just got up there and was like, hey, it's exactly what you think it is. I just traded him. I didn't think he was good enough. He just said it. And then we're like, well, you certainly, like, you called everyone. No, I didn't.

I wanted to trade him because I think Anthony Davis is better. So I just called the one guy I know who currently employs Anthony Davis, and he was down. I feel like this is all criminal. The more I think about it, like I couldn't get to sleep last night, it was... Dude, this right here is the reason why,

and I don't know necessarily how this works in European sports, but I know that in some companies, like the way things are set up, this is kind of like a socialist dream, is that companies, their board, would always have a seat for people who work for the company and they would vote. You know what I mean? There's always somebody involved in shareholder meetings who's actually representing the people

who go to work there every day. Because clearly, what you have here are two people who don't have, in Dumont and Harrison, who have no clue how the day-to-day operations of like the Vibe, the City, who's gonna come to games and not come to games. Like leave aside their assessment of Anthony Davis giving them a better chance to win than Luca this year, next year, and maybe the third.

That's debatable, but yeah. Leave that aside. Let's say that's actually true. This is the sort of this year, next year, and maybe the third. That's debatable, but yeah. Leave that aside. Let's say that's actually true. This is the sort of thing where you need somebody who works down on the floor of the hub by the machines to be in the room at the table and be like, you really have to understand. I want to make sure you understand

the full scope of what you're about to do here. And clearly, that didn't happen. Because Dumont doesn't know what he's, it's fine he doesn't know. A lot of owners don't know anything about the NBA or about basketball. He seems to be on the very low end of that. But the assumption is the guy who's been around basketball

his whole life is going to give him good information. And then my assumption too, because I thought this is what it took to make a billion dollars, is that Dumont would have people in between him and Nico that could maybe figure some of the, like is what this guy giving me legit? And it doesn't appear that happened.

It appears Nico went to him and was like, see this guy scores 27 points a game This guy scores 25 They're basically the same one of them is gonna save us a lot of money. How do you feel about that? Right, so that was like we had a really good friend Text us this morning must have listened to the show this morning our podcast from yesterday. But he's a guy who is a big Milwaukee fan

and I worked with him for like two decades and anyway. And he heard us yesterday talking about the fact and I was just saying, you know, teams that would trade for like, Luca's so good, there's only two guys that probably they wouldn't trade like is Wemby. I can't remember. Oh, I said Jokic and Wemby.

And he points out that they wouldn't trade Janis because you don't trade the soul of your franchise, the very reason that your franchise, you know, still exists in that town, a guy who has, you know, stayed there, who did the battles and... Yes, I agree with that. Like on paper, you could probably convince Milwaukee that look, this guy is younger

and points per game and everything, and I think you would want to trade Luca for Giannis, but they wouldn't because you just don't trade a Giannis. Yeah, they understand. And that's why you wouldn't trade Luca too. Right. You don't trade that, that is the thing that is your whole franchise.

Even if you have some clear cut objective reasons, short of degenerative, something muscular that you know he will not even be in the league in three years and you have to get way ahead of this and you're going to be hailed as a genius and you can kind of sit back knowing, don't worry, it's all gonna be fine. But.

Short of that. Short of that. So either Nico is this bad, like unbelievably bad when you look at everything that goes down here. When you talk about he didn't get a bidding war going. Because I can't imagine what that might have been. If Rudy Gobert is getting four firsts and who is it that on the Knicks or just got- Michael Bridges? Bridges just got five firsts.

Yeah, yeah. And the argument being made against that is that, you know, you could see a situation where if they started to shop him and word got out, he would get pissed off and then he wouldn't be willing to sign his Supermax this off season and now it's a big problem. You see this with Jimmy Butler. Well, he'd be willing to sign that Supermax if you can trade it. The difference is if he signs the Supermax, you can trade him anywhere.

You know what I mean? Whereas if he doesn't Supermax, you can trade him anywhere. You know what I mean? Whereas if he doesn't, then you somewhat limit the range of teams. Like Jimmy Butler has told the Warriors, I won't sign an extension, so don't trade for me. But I don't buy it either way. Because first of all, you just sign him and then you trade him.

Again, Dame didn't want to go to Milwaukee. Yeah, and now he could say, you know, I'm going to, like, if they said, Utah, you have a million picks, we're gonna trade you to Utah, he could say, you know, I'm going to like if they said Utah you have a million picks We're gonna trade you to Utah He could say I don't want to play in Utah and I'm not gonna like I'll go back to Slovenia or something And what's Utah going to do? They might not treat there are ways. Yeah, but but he didn't want to rebuild He had Anthony Davis in mind and that's why he went straight to the that's the thing

He only had Anthony Davis in mind in my head. Yeah he was his player rep at Nike. That's the only explanation. But okay he allowed the Lakers to hang on to a number one? Insane. Insane. The fact that they didn't get, they had to sit right there. If he had said I gotta have multiple number ones. This is, is it, I can't sell this. Is Polinka walking away? There's no way. They were like, are you serious?

We're about to land the, the next great LA athlete that we can market for another decade. He's not walking away. And they made the Mavs throw in a second. The Mavs should have got five second. Like, okay, you don't have any more first? What about a second? Let's get some other teams involved to get me, I gotta get some stuff, man.

Just give me one of the big ones. I gotta make it just look, I gotta make it look like we're Minnesota in the Herschel Walker trade where we're getting lots of things, but we're not. Basically, it was kind of like an even trade, Luca for Anthony Davis. That's why we don't know the whole story. Because on paper, this makes no sense. I'm starting to come around to the idea there is no more to the story now we can talk about Why it is that the ownership group was like I want to know whose idea it was Nico or ownership

To start the ball rolling on we don't want to offer him this supermax If it's the owner, I guess I get it. There's some talk of like a you know, they want to depress the value They want to turn the fan base against them They want to move the value, they want to turn the fan base against them, they want to move the team, or they want to get into re- We can talk about all that stuff. I think it would be really weird if that was Nico's idea. Very weird. Like Nico comes up with, hey, you know what?

This summer we might have to make a decision on our best player getting what he deserves. Maybe I should go run and tell the teacher this is going to cost a lot. So that's weird to me too. or getting what he deserves, maybe I should go run and tell the teacher this is gonna cost a lot. So that's weird to me too. But either way, I don't know that there's much more to this than however they arrived at it,

they did not wanna give Luca that super max, and Nico thinks that Anthony Davis gives him, with Max Christie, who's been starting for the Lakers and probably should start here, that that gives them with Max Christie, who's been starting for the Lakers and probably should start here, that that gives them a better chance to win this year and next year. I had never even considered that until you mentioned that your friend

who's worked for the Cavs for a long time brought it up yesterday. And then I saw Charles Barkley talking about it. You know, and you might not go to Chuck for hardcore hoops analysis, but I had to write a thing, I got to write a thing for D Magazine. Did he also say that?

Yeah, where you just look at, like just, they're gonna be a top five, maybe the best rebounding team in the league. They're probably gonna be a very good defensive team. They already kinda were skating around on that front. And Anthony Davis is still really good. But it's the Anthony Davis show in LA, it's not the LeBron show, so.

Yeah, but have you ever said. At this point, I feel like it might just be that straightforward. If we were to just take our Homer glasses off, because we all love Luca, to a great degree. He is 25, but he's not your normal 25. He was playing pro basketball at 16. There's more tread on the tires than a normal 25-year-old.

If his weight is a concern, and injuries are a concern, and off-the-court issues are a concern, a combination of diet and whatever he puts into himself, plus the culture in the locker room, what if Nico just strictly said, this guy will not be worth this money in three years? Is that a good enough explanation? That's the conclusion that he arrived at. I would say well it

seems like we're only talking about the downside of the ledger here. When we make this decision let's also talk about the pro side of this pro-con list and on the pro one it said I just watched him in the finals six months ago. And I saw him. I watched him drag a team that had no business being in the Western Conference Finals to that level. Yeah. He's the kind of guy where the Lakers odds have gone up tremendously to win the title this year.

That's weird. But he's the kind of guy, if you have Luca, you just don't know. Yeah. Because he can take kind of guy, if you have Luca, you just don't know. Cause he can take the whole team on his back and win a whole playoff series by himself. He can. Yeah.

Anthony Davis cannot. He can and he did. However, when the Mavs were down 3-0, Wind Horse did that report that we've seen circulating. Luca's out of shape, Luca bitches all the time, and that was not good enough to beat the Celtics. So what if Nico just saw this is how our season is gonna end every year?

And to that end, Windhorst followed up this week and said that when he did that, he was in the Mavs locker room and meeting room for the next two days and nobody said, hey, that was a little off base. No, they probably appreciated a little public pressure on that as well. Doing that for them.

So clearly, that's just something that Nico and whatever constitutes his guys had a huge problem with. But still, like. Wouldn't you love to get to a point where the biggest fault was that your leader mentally broke once he was down 3-0 in the finals he had just brought you to? No. I'd love to be in that situation

again soon. Ultimately this came down to Nico Harrison does not want to deal with Luca. But he's okay so he's out of shape he doesn't take things seriously but even that person can bring you to the finals. And have the most decorated resume of anyone at his age. Imagine once this 25-year-old starts to change his game a little, which commonly happens to athletes in all sports. You know when it happens? Tom Brady wasn't Tom Brady until he,

somewhere along the line, he kind of started thinking, I wanna. Yeah, but Luca might not turn into line, he kind of started thinking, I wanna. Yeah, but Luca might not turn into that. It happens when it starts being a problem. What a risk. That's a huge risk. I know, I'm with you, but I'm trying to see it from Nico's side,

who a week ago, we thought was the greatest thing in town. That's what I'm trying to keep in mind. He's pulled off a series of very, seemingly very wise trades once the outcome washed out. You're right. That's what makes it. I mean, two months ago, you were saying this is the best math team of all time.

Well, once we thought- Nico created that. You know what? He was a great family man, a beautiful smile. He had rushed for 2,000 yards in the NFL. It was incredible. The spokesman, like- Sell a ketchup popsicle to a lady in white coat.

Then I turn around and I'm looking for his spouse and I find her without a head. Okay, I'm just saying the glove didn't fit, all right? I wanna see it out. But I can see his line of thinking, but I'm with you. We had a darling. We had him since he was a teenager. You let that ride out.

And you've seen the failure, you know, we gotta get to there with him, with him. How bad would it have been if he- He's part of it. If he flames out on the super max, you're done with him by the time he's 30, you know? Yeah. It's not like you're saying like,

we're gonna be strapped to this guy until he's 37. Right, this is not a Jimmy Butler situation where you have to this guy until he's 37. And basically- This is not a Jimmy Butler situation where you have to- No, he's right there right now. And again, I think we can all speak from personal experience, but also I'll reference the Dirk anecdotes again. You start to pay closer attention to your body

when not paying close attention to your body starts presenting challenges for you. And I don't know if I'm looking around like, I should probably be the MVP. Oh yeah, let me grab a salad. It doesn't work that way usually. You have to go through it a little bit and then it hits. And they didn't even want to figure that part of it out.

Didn't even want to wait and see. It's not like they've been in three finals and he kept coming up short. It's not like this is a, I don't know if he can win the big one type thing. He doesn't have that moniker yet. And they decided, why don't we never let him find out in a Dallas Mavericks uniform.

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dad yesterday. The way you know this is like the biggest trade in NBA history or the most shocking or the worst or all that is that so Shams tweeted this out when it happened. He got the info, isn't he a clutch guy? You got to know whose agent is whose and now even the newsbreakers you have to know who their agent is. Correct. And so he is associated with the agency of AD, the Braw, or what's his other nickname? Street clothes? Yeah, so that's a funny one. It's actually on his basketball reference page. You know how we've joked before about,

it seems like you can just throw anything on a basketball reference nickname page? Yeah. So it's got unibrow, the brow, AD, ant, and street clothes. Because he's so often. Yes, and also- Sitting behind the bench in street clothes. Because he's so often. Yes. And also. Sitting behind the bench in street clothes.

Little bit more of a. Too injured to play. A norm type line, but I really enjoyed Anthony Data Davis this weekend. Data Davis. Yeah. Yeah, I like it. But so when Shams tweeted it,

like this is something I'm, now I'm trying to like ingest as much media as I can hear all the, you know, talking heads, the national people talk about this and they are all in fact, I went to lockdown Lakers, just what's their initial take? That's smart. And I'll tell you their initial take in a moment, but everybody is like, I thought he was hacked because if this was a real trade for Luka Doncic, it would have been for much more.

Like this is too fake. Like whoever hacked this, real great that you got into Shams account, but you don't understand basketball. Right, some dork. There's no way, like if you're gonna do this, make it look real. So that's how we know it's fake. And I guess Shams was getting enough of that, that he had to put out another tweet that said,

hey, this is me, this is my account, this is real. And then the basketball world just went into a tizzy. This is me. This is my account. This is real and Then the basketball world Just went into a tizzy and it remains there. We all awake when it happened. No For you. Oh you were you No, I woke up to 50 text It was I don't know. It was funny seeing all those texts. I was like, okay, what happened? Death. Right, or tragedy of some sort, and then I saw Luca got traded and it's worse. Yeah.

So much worse. At first I was like, man, I knew the tariffs would be a big deal. You'd rather have no more lunches with your grandpa. In some way. You don't wanna say that out loud. Yeah, he'd be pain free and happy place. Yeah.

But Luca would stay here. I'd bring mine back, let him think we're having another lunch, and then put him back to sleep to get Luca back. Yeah, just as he's about to take his first bite. Yeah. Yeah, no, I was asleep. Fell asleep in the daughter room at 8, 30, 9 o'clock,

as I will, as Blake will. Not in my daughter's room, but in his kid's room. I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed,

I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, I go to bed, what's going on? It's four o'clock in the morning, and I'm like 1%. And I look at my phone and I've got 50 text messages and just glancing at them for three seconds

before my phone died, it was all what the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck, oh my God, Luca, oh my God. I assumed he had retired or was out for the year. Car crash, something. Plugged the phone in, went to the bathroom, came back five minutes later, and that's how I found out. And then I waited for the rest of the world that had found out the night before to wake up.

And yeah, it was numbing. It was numbing. It's literally... Hey, how do you talk to your kids about this? I know, we were making fun of that group chat all weekend. I've had people send me them recording their 8 and 10 year old talking about it. See, I thought about whether or not I would do that. Like, Norah does care. And she knows Luca. And she's got a Luca shirt. But not enough to be really she was

Confused when she heard me talking about it with maybe you my jock daughter called me. Yeah, I figure I recorded Brooks See I was gonna say I didn't know if I wanted to if I would do the recording or not because I can promise you The boy if you were a couple years older would be crushed like everybody's boy was It's like God on your daughter's logical. I could imagine trying to explain it to her. Yeah. You know, like she's because she always has good point of questions. Like, and I bet, you know, Nico should have talked to her. Yeah, I mean, it's it's true. They it's ironic because she is an autist. And in looking at this move, it had never occurred to me before, but I thought, boy, Nico Harrison's gotta

be on the spectrum, because this is the sort of shit you do with absolutely no regard for context or the setting you're in or understanding like what's going on around you, which is sometimes how people in that situation roll. Let's say he's getting his marching orders from ownership. Because everything that he has said in his press conference and whatnot indicates it's,

this is all financial, well, financial slash- Defense. Defense and believing in Luca long-term, but if the financials was not involved in that, you would still, you would certainly hold on to Luca. Yeah, it's all related. If the financials make Luca not worth it, and part of the reason Luca's not worth it is because of the way he plays and Anthony Davis plays a different way.

So you were saying yesterday, perhaps if Luca or if Nico was told you have to trade this guy, that Nico should say no and resign? Honestly, I honestly think- Because if you did that, you would then also send a message to the other teams that you don't want to hire this guy because he is not going to work for you as an owner. Yeah, he wouldn't work for Jerry Jones. He wouldn't work for maybe Jerry Jones, but I am not actually certain that first of all, the guy could go back to Nike tomorrow and I'm not actually certain

that every team would look at that. I think some teams would look at that and respect him. Not all, but yes, I think the guy who's been around a basketball his entire life and has been on a team his whole life and worked in basketball culture and he was hired I guess or assumed by these faceless overlords who are like you know basketball seems good for families. They're just there to extract value. It's his job to me to respect the game, to respect the players, to respect the fan base,

and he would have been a legend for the rest of his life if he would have said, I'm announcing my resignation from the Dallas Mavericks effective immediately. And then afterward, he goes and does an interview with Tim McMahon or whoever and says, that's just just not that's not something I'm willing to do. Doesn't happen a lot but people do do that in jobs and usually when they do it it's because somebody above them who flew in who has no fucking clue how things operate tries to tell them to do something that they know is going to

violate the trust that they have with their customer and their public It does happen from time to time Happens in the government from time to time and those people are usually remembered as heroes That's remember just heroes the guy who you know Turned in Jerry Sandusky is a hero, but also won't get hired anywhere Dave Bliss the guy who recorded Dave Bliss won't get hired anywhere. Dave Bliss. The guy who recorded Dave Bliss won't get hired by Mike Shashefsky because he violated the trust.

So now he can't get hired in the NBA. But if he makes this move and it fails, which it will, and it's a terrible move, he won't get hired in the NBA. Yeah, good point. Unless it's sort of a sleeper cell plan to get him to LA. No, and I honestly, dude, I don't. The leagues, the league conspiracy, we need a good player in LA.

Yo, we have a bunch of conspiracies we can go through. But I don't know. I don't know that every team would have just been like, look at the moves he's made. He's made good moves up to this point. Look at his resume. It's all worked out. at the moves he's made. He's made good moves up to this point. Look at his resume. It's all worked out. Ran for 2,000 yards.

Spokesman for Hertz. That's on my mind, because there's a new OJ documentary. Geez, really? Have you guys watched it? No. Dude, it's great. I can't be above.

I've watched two episodes out of four. It is on Netflix. Is it American Man Hunt or Most Famous Murder? I don't know, it's whatever was just released this weekend. Okay, American Manhunt. It's four episodes, hour 15 each. The first two are incredible. It's, you know, you'll be thinking a lot about OJ too.

But, like yeah, thinking about OJ and killing two people is like a nice respite from this terrible Luca tragedy that we're dealing with on a day-to-day basis. Like I keep thinking, I keep wishing it wasn't real. You know, the Browns is a good analogy because one of the things that we were very upset with there was when it was just announced, it was just announced. This is a done deal. They are moving to Baltimore

because we couldn't get a new stadium in Cleveland and the Indians got a new stadium and we need that. But you never gave a chance for the voters of Cleveland to put, you know, put it on the ballot and say either this or we're going to move. And we're going to we're going to vote to keep this team like you never really floated this out there. And based on their press conference yesterday, it was because he didn't want a tumultuous summer. Do you have that audio? Uh, I do. Pull that up if you can. Just the whole discussion of. Let's see here.

This is, I think was there a specific time or thing that made you conclude it was time to do the trade, I believe. Yeah, I think it wasn't really like a point. I think it was like, how do we make our team better? You know, there's some unique things about his contract that we had to pay attention to. You know, there's other teams that were loading up,

you know, that he was gonna have, he was gonna be able to decide, make his own decision at some point of whether he wants to be here or not, whether we want to super maximum or not or whether he wants to opt out. So I think we had to take all that into consideration and feel like we got out in front of what could have been a tumultuous summer. He could. Did you have any indication from him or his representation that he was going to opt out or not take the extension or

anything like that? No, not at all. Not at all. Nothing verbally that would lead me to believe that. Whether we offered him a Supermax or not, what do you mean? Yeah. And I guess that's the tell, right? Yes, we were considering not offering the Supermax. We don't think we wanted to offer the super max and then if you don't offer the super max that becomes the whole story That you're not offering Luca the super max and then it becomes well known that Luca Can be had But I think that's a better situation. I think that would be palatable if you were a Mavs fan

You ended up losing Luka to LA or wherever. In the long run, you did lose Luka, but at least, you know, you're mad then at the owner for not offering the Supermax to keep this player, or at least it would become a topic. I don't know, man. It's just... Okay, so somebody just sent me this. A couple things actually we need to talk about. But one of them is from Bill Simmons' show Today, which I guess just went up a little bit ago. He's got Kirk Goldsberry, who we've had on

a couple of our shows before. Grant Linde, ESPN, he actually worked for the Spurs for a little bit. Great dude in the basketball space. I have not listened to this yet, but I'm gonna try to play. Do you think it'll play from Twitter, Blake? Yeah.

It will not. Let's give it a sec here. Because he has some quotes in here that I think we're gonna need to, because what we're doing now is we're gonna get into the, shovel a little dirt on his grave on the way out, you know? So they started that with the conditioning.

Okay, work on that for a second while I- I think this will work, I think. Yeah, and there's a week long process. One of my sources inside the Lakers was indicating that the deal was bigger, and I think you guys were literally joking about this last night that there were two firsts and there was Dalton connect. Okay.

So let's start here. And the deal got whittled down because I think Rob Polanco was able to convince the Dallas Mavericks that Luca is a lot of risk. Yeah. You guys are right. For trying to look at this this way because this guy oh he's drinking or whatever his weight problem Whatever it is So they were able to convince it. This is a week's long process That's another thing that came out today is this wasn't this was oh and and Dallas almost started three and a half weeks Dallas started it dude. Okay. We'll listen to the rest of that but that here we go

Hey guy drinks. He drinks a little beer. I You just murdered it, dude. Okay, we'll listen to the rest of that, but here we go. Hey, guy drinks, he drinks a little beer. I don't care if he plays with a beer helmet on. If he's putting up 30s in a night. He's done what he's done. He's showing up to all the charity events. With this lifestyle, yeah. He's doing everything you ask him to do,

and yet, Nico is able to be swindled by the fake Rob Lowe that like yeah I mean I know he's in the finals but don't you kind of get pissed off at him sometimes? LeBron doesn't do that. LeBron takes three naps a day and he doesn't he only has one glass of wine a month and I mean we're probably the only team that could take him because maybe LeBron could help change him but yeah everybody else is just gonna tell you what I'm telling you which is that this guy's a busted fat drunk. How about don't even call anyone else? Yeah and then because he's a busted fat drunk that's why I can only give you one of

these two first and Dalton Connect who's a future all-star I can't put him in the deal. Anthony Davis is still good for your fat, lazy, drunk liability, but I can't give you more than that. Sorry. Oh, I need a second. Can you send us a second? I'm going to call Utah and figure out if I can ship you a second.

That's crazy, dude, if they're going to start that path. That's a fun. The fact that the Lakers held onto a number one. The Mavs couldn't hold on to any number ones That's crazy, dude, if they're gonna start that path. That's a fun. I mean, I'll tell you. The fact that the Lakers held onto a number one. The Mavs couldn't hold onto any number ones when getting Kristaps. Or Kyrie. Yeah, and I don't think Cuban or Donnie

would have been shipping you out if on the way to your all-MBA production, you drink alcohol. And Kyrie was a very high-risk thought of at the time. Yeah, and that's part of the deal, is that, you know, speaking of Cuban and Donnie, I don't know what to make of this, because while I know people that work there,

and I'm somewhat around it, I don't know the inner workings of how Nico views things, or whatever at all, but you do hear that he has a general aversion, Nico, to everything that came before him. And that makes sense. Yeah, that's a new GM bit. That makes sense.

Yeah. But never in a million years did I conceive of the idea that Nico thought of Luca as one of his rivals from the past regime. He's the reason that this is an attractive GM job. Because I can just build around this guy. Right, you know, my guess is if you had to step over from Nike and figure out what to do with Kyle Kuzma

and Washington's roster, nobody would think Nico's a good GM. He was able to become one on the job because he had Luca. So it's clear that in selling this narrative that the guy, dude, everybody's known the guy party since he was 17 years old. It's kind of part of what makes it awesome.

It's kind of part of what makes it mean something to the city is that he doesn't look like LeBron. He doesn't look like a freak show of an athlete. Phoenix. I'm just thinking of other, okay, so you know a guy's gotta be traded and he's gonna, he can only be traded to certain areas. You can't trade him to Utah. You can't trade him. Phoenix ended up trading four unprotected future first round picks and a bunch of players,

including Bridges, for Durant. Yeah. That's normal. Just saying. Luca Doncic. That was Kevin Durant at age 35? What was he? Around there. 25-year-old Luca Doncic. The thought was, if you did ever trade him, the haul you could get. And like you're saying, the indication is that, well, he only wanted Anthony Davis, like he really overrates Anthony Davis because of his personal relationship with Anthony Davis. And it's

weird too, you know, I think it was Ishtalk who pointed this out. It's a full shift away from the way, the Mavericks have always been a team that was heavy on the international front. Always. From the Nelsons, through Dirk. This is about as big of a turn towards the American AAU system

in a two year span that you could imagine. And that's the system that Nico came up with. That's Kyrie, that's PJ, that's Clay, that's Anthony Davis, those are the guys, those are just as purebred of American AAU type hoopers as you can get. And that's the world he knows. My assumption was that he knew the general world

of basketball as the general manager. So, what if they win a title? Well, the only way they're gonna win a title is if Anthony Davis plays about the best basketball of his career. He's not that far away actually from doing that right now. He's got the most touches per game he's ever had in his career, close to the most shots,

close to the most assists, he's a defensive player of the year candidate. He would have to play the best basketball of his career for them to have a shot to win a title. And I guess if that happens, as I wrote this morning, Nico would be right. The problem is, I don't morning, Nico would be right. The problem is, I don't know if anybody's gonna care.

And that's the issue. Yeah. Even if this does turn out to where, I don't know, worst case scenario, Luke is out of the league in three or four years. Yeah, and Dallas is in a championship situation. Sure, they could win the next five. But it's not gonna feel the same.

And that's where you're right. There needs to be a place on the board for this, but where business and emotions don't mix. Because he could be right, and it still won't matter at all. It's like trading Dirk. I mean, I don't know. These kids and these fans who love Luca,

that's why they love the Dallas Mavericks, is because of this dude. Yeah, and on one hand, it's like, you could be like, all right, well, why don't you guys just quit being babies about it? You know, who cares? They win, they win. But again, that is such a misunderstanding

of where your profit comes from in pro sports. It isn't just winning. It's winning and feeling like there's a team in your city that you can support and be a part of and there's a connection. So even if you think that's gay, that's also how they make money. You know what I mean? Like just view it from a pure business standpoint and don't think about emotion. That's how you make money is by having the city engaged in care. Think about, Buffalo hasn't won anything in a long time at a high level, right?

But their fans care. That's part of the agreement business-wise, and they just skipped over that part entirely. But I think that's even a placeholder to say, I'm a Bills fan or I'm a Cowboys fan. That just means you love a collection of people. When the biggest, the time I was a Bills fan or I'm a Cowboys fan. That just means you love a collection of people. When the biggest, the time I was a Cowboys fan is because they had Des Bryant and Tony Romo

and I loved those people and the way that they played. So yeah, trading your personality away, it's very easy to say I don't like the Mavs anymore because they traded away the Mavs to me. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I'm not real fired up to go to a game right now. I have another trade analogy for you, but first, Community Mechanical, that's our HVAC dealer.

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Try it. So my trade analogy of a trade that you wouldn't do, maybe for similar reasons, like you wouldn't do, you know, Janis for Luca if you were Milwaukee, but you would never have done Kobe for Tim Duncan if you're the Lakers. Like you have this, you know, this guy. Right, even if you could be like, yeah Tim Duncan probably helps us win more. Yeah. Maybe a better overall player, better both two-way player, right? Certainly you would say Anthony Davis, a better two-way player than Luka Donchich. Sure.

Would you ever make the trade of Kobe for Tim Duncan? No, it's the same reason you wouldn't have traded Dirk for Shaq. Right. You know, I mean, now we say, but even at the time, you wouldn't have done it, and that was even early-ish in the Dirk story. No, you wouldn't.

No one would, because people understand the dynamic. We just happened to have both lucked ourselves into one of the greatest, most exciting, fun to watch, aesthetically pleasing basketball players to ever walk the face of the earth, while also looking our way into one of the most arrogant, obtuse, and disconnected general managers to also ever walk the face of the earth.

I wonder how- I wanna blame management. I wonder if he understands. I don't wanna blame Nico. No, I know. Because I wanna blame new ownership, because I gotta think this does not, absolutely does not happen with Mark Cuban.

Oh, no way. No chance. No chance. Mark Cuban is, or he is the NBA. He is a fan. Or has been for 20 years. And he, I feel like he would at least bring people into the, he would ask Dirk,

he would ask people around. Yeah, the reports are that nobody got asked. No, probably not Finley, nobody. Nobody who's around for their own office. Why do you employ them? I office. Why do you employ them? I know. Why do you pay him? Why is Dirk on retainer at whatever?

I'm sure he gets a nice, appreciates you being cool to us all these years, taking less salary, we'll give you money now. He does, he was involved in hiring a kid. 500 grand a year. They both were. But they were also put in those positions by Mark Cuban. So I'm not even so sure that I would assume

that Nico doesn't view Dirk as a bit of an enemy. At minimum, a little bit of a nuisance to his grand Nico vision. And he's gonna be gone. He even said it yesterday. I mean, we can play that last little part. Nico views Dirk as an enemy. He's just, he's from be gone. He even said it yesterday. I mean we can play that last little part. Niko views Dirk as an enemy. He's just an- he's from the old regime.

The old regime hired him. No, that's true. I mean look, obviously, but there have been rumblings of Cuban being like, I had no idea they were gonna sideline me quite to this degree. And what the leagues told him about where he can and can't stand at games, I can almost guarantee you the league is getting that tug on the coat from Nico. I can't get this guy outta here. He's not really the owner, he's not really in charge of basketball.

It just makes sense, right? It's ego, it's ego and dick measuring for Nico to be like, hey, this is my show. It's not the Cuban show, it's not the Donnie show. It's not the Lucas show. It's not the Dirk or the Lucas show. And I'm gonna remind everyone of that. And he doesn't care about what happens to this team

in this city five to 10 years from now. He basically said as much. If you pair him with Kyrie and the rest of the guys, he fits right along with our time frame to win now and win in the future. And the future to me is three, four years from now. The future 10 years from now, I don't know. I don't think they probably bear me and Jay by then.

Or we bear ourselves. Yes. Hilarious. But he's 25, Luca is, and it's a very real possibility he could have been playing here in close to 10 years. Very real. Again, had you supermaxed him, you could have been out on him by 30. What are we doing? We lost. We lost. It's so sad.

It's truly sad. It's truly sad. I like to make fun of sports fans and the, you know, especially when your team beats another team and they're real sad walking away and everything. But like this is bigger than a Cowboys are 13 and three, but then lost in the first round of the playoffs. Like that's sad. But this again, this is Browns leaving Cleveland sad.

You don't recover from it. But I like to do this game. Let's figure out a way in which you feel good about Mavericks basketball in the next 10 years. You feel as good about it as you did three days ago. You're going to have a tough time constructing that scenario for me. It probably involves them looking into another player

who's almost as good as Luka is right now. The odds are very, very against you on that one. But that would have to happen. And that guy would have to take you to the finals and you will have already had to experience final success something under Anthony Davis. Like what is going to make you a Mavericks fan in 2035? If you thought about it right now? Very hard for me to imagine.

I mean, you just get over things naturally. But I mean, as it sits right now, like I feel for the players still on the roster. But can you get your fandom up to the level it was? You get over it, but would you ever be actually... Like I got over the Browns leaving, but I've never been able to become a Browns fan. That's the thing right there.

That's what I was about to ask. How'd you feel when they came back? Yeah, that's not those players. You get over it, but you never get it back. No, but yeah, like I was saying, I feel for Kyrie and I feel for Clay. They opted to come here to play with Luca, and now they're stuck here.

And I feel for Anthony Davis. We didn come here to play with Luca. And now they're stuck here. And I feel for Anthony Davis. We didn't even talk about that part. How crazy it is that they have been working on the contours of this roster for the last two years to build it around Luca. Like they just got Clay Thompson. Clay Thompson is here to play with Luca. Look at how it works whenever they don't play together.

It's a real problem. Hey, it's Tuck. So, six months ago, did they think Luka was too lazy, drunk, and injury prone whenever they were adding pieces and they were building a team, the best team around Luka that they had ever? There's a reason why they go get a guy like Spencer Denwitty because it's like, okay, on a team that's not very good, that Denwitty gives you nothing. But if he's out here on a Mavs team that's close, like I said yesterday,

it's like Saquon to the Eagles versus the Giants. He provides a lot more value. They have a ton of those guys that work with Luka, Derek Lively works better with Luka. They did all that and then now half a year later, sorry, we're changing course. You're right, they have to find the exact clone of Luka that's not Luka to fit the final mold here. With the bevy of first round picks they currently have. No. No. Should mention today's show is also brought to us by the National Beer of Texas Lone Star Beer. But don't go ignoring Lone Star Light. That's the blue can. That's

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If they're trying to tell us that Anthony Davis didn't know anything about it, I don't buy any of that. There's no way that this trade goes down and then Anthony Davis for some reason decides to waive his $6 million trade kicker for just because he's cool, because he's a nice guy. Well, I think-

If like this comes out of nowhere, hey, Anthony Davis, you thought for a while you're going to be the next face of the Lakers. LeBron's probably going to retire here in the next couple of years and this will be your team. But now all of a sudden I'm in a blindshod you, we're training you and oh yeah would you I know you're supposed to get six million dollars would you just give that to us though I just don't want you to accept that. Yeah it's it is a bit weird but I think I buy the idea that you know because he is signed up for a few years

so they could trade him just about anywhere and there's nothing he could do about it I mean if the team could comply cap wise so maybe it's a situation where they went to him and they're like look we're looking to move you but we think Dallas would be a great spot for you but the deal is only gonna go through if you waive this, and he's like, you know, that's a better team. I'm still getting paid. Well, certainly talk to Nico, his buddy. Yeah.

Yeah, that's how it originated. Yeah, I'm sure. They're really tight. Or to Rich Paul, who is his agent, and LeBron's agent, obviously. So yeah, I don't know. I do think it's the Anthony Davis is saying hey I'm on board with this

because it keeps the Mavericks from From the luxury tax Something I think I'd have to worry about but hate that as it relates to Luca anyways All right, let's take a we're live-streaming today So if you're on the podcast, we're live streaming today. So if you're on the podcast, we'll be back in just a second. But otherwise, take a few minute break here. Come back, we'll talk to Iztock Franco, who actually was on a TV set with Luca's dad last

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Not too late. So Iz Talk covers the MAVs for D Magazine. And you know, it's pretty easy to figure out the origin of how this all started. My first question is, will you continue to cover the Mavericks? Or are you going to work for LA Magazine now? Actually, I started my own substrate this year, so it's a kind of flexible platform, but and everybody's asking, do you look out the Lakers? What will you do next? And to be honest, I don't know. I mean, I like Luca, I like, but I also like Dallas, I like Texas, I get a lot of friends,

my whole audience is there. So it's a little bit difficult to figure out at the moment. Yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot you have a Substack now. We're on Substack too. I don't know if you've seen the dumb zone on Substack. We share a lot of subscribers, right? Yeah, I'm a subscriber. So I read your stuff. I look at your videos. So it's cool. Yeah. So like I said, I think in the, I think for a while I'll try to focus on big picture on the man's Luca, some Laker stuff. We'll see, try to figure it out as we go. It's a shock.

So that's probably for everybody. I get so many people now, some new people subscribing, but also people unsubscribing saying, look, everything is gone. I want to go, you're great, but I want to watch the team anymore. So that kind of sucks, but we'll navigate as it goes. I think it's interesting too for someone like you,

who if you don't mind me saying, is one of, you're one of the best basketball minds that I consume on a regular basis, and you're very passionate about the game, the NBA, the love of the game, what it meant to you growing up, what it means to you now. And then you get hit with a move like this that's very, but I guess I should say, but you also provide very sober-minded,

straightforward analysis. And it's almost hard to do that for this move because that part of it comes so far after the vibes and the emotions of it, which typically is not what you write about. So it's an interesting spot for an analyst of your ilk to be in. Yeah, it's, interesting spot for an analyst of your ilk to be in. Yeah.

It's like I said, it's, but in the core, I think, even if you're an analyst, even if you want to be, like you said, more sober minded, more analytical, more educational, what moments like this, I think bring up, you're still a fan, either of a player or, or a game. And I think the moment that happened was like such a cold business move, but not even a business. Or if it is a business, I think it was a bad business move, but it's just a cold move that seems to negate all the emotions and fans. And I think then reminds me maybe that sometimes when you're really

so into game to game stuff, I don't know, this year I did previous analysis of every marriage game basically. So it reminds you basically about the core, which is fandom and which is passion and people and the story of a player and following it up and seeing a guy or a team succeed, fall, start, all the things that we've seen with this team and Luka in the last, I don't know, six, seven years. If you do evaluate this analytically, like player for player, player plus the assets that were when each way, can you justify this trade as a good one for the Mavs? Can you justify this trade as a good one for the Mavs?

Basically, if you evaluate, basically, Niko laid out it. He looks at this as his future, and the future of the team looks in three, four years' terms. And I think I would even shorten this based on the moves, because you're betting on 32 year old Kyrie, which will be 33 in March and AD will be 32. And then you have to play with 35. So I think you have one to two year window to win the title.

And I would assume even if everything goes right, the O'Rounder on this title, I don't know what is zero, 0.5? If they win one title, I think it would be a major success. Does this title, even one hypothetical title, which I'm not a… I would still take the field, the Celtic, the OKC, maybe even Cleveland, I would take all of them at the moment. I'm not saying it's not possible, but if you take one, this probable title over what you had with what we discussed before, a homegrown kid who started your career, who was in the

finals last year, it's hard to evaluate it successfully, even in basketball terms. I think Luca was the guy who brought you to the finals. And a lot was talked about defense, about all the flaws that Luca had. But if you look at the final, the first two games, he was the only guy who wasn't scared. Everybody else was scared the shit out of Celtics. I think it was clear that they needed something else. But I don't think in these first two games, Luca was the problem. That it wouldn't take you over the top. He was the only guy who scored, I don't know, one-on-one against

Taito against Drew Holliday. So that is a little bit weird to me. Yeah. And it's not just evaluating their chances now over the next year and a half against the field. It's evaluating those chances against the field and against the team they had in place that was already very competitive. So you'd really have to be just blown away improving your chances this year and next

to forgo three, four, five years from now, in which we assume that Luca will be what we think he's gonna be. I guess there's a chance he's not, and I guess there's a chance it is some sort of medical issue or that his conditioning never improves and doesn't follow, I don't know, the normal human curve of caring about that more in the back half of your 20s. It's a massive, massive gamble.

And like we said, you spent yesterday doing TV with, among others on the panel, Luca's father. And that quote that he had went viral. This is a level of betrayal, it's a level of hypocrisy. Luca's done everything right for the city. He wanted to be there his whole career. So I guess I'm just going to give you free reign to sort of add color to anything else That the pops might have added and maybe also just speak on where the country is right now. I

Mean the country in general The depth or it much quicker than I have access. I would say they don't have a choice to make they just now our games Are on a different time They don't have a choice to make. Now our games are on at a different time. And in other words, I think they don't follow, I don't think general Slovenian doesn't follow the NBA as deeply as we do, so they see the freaking Lakers. It's the brand. As much as I love the Mavericks, it's like we were making this comparison in the studio

and Lucas kind of used to it because he played for the similar brand in Europe, which is Real Madrid. This is the Lakers of Europe. It's the pressure, it's the luxury, it's everything. They win all the time. It's very similar. So people are kind of used to seeing him on the best team. I think it was more unusual when he went at the beginning of career, when he ended up in Dallas. But I think, like

you said, for Lucas that, I think, and that was in the clip, he was like just offended that it went, they were so blindfolded, you know. So it just came out of nowhere. And not to mention, and he didn't even talk about that, how much it cost him financially. He lost, I think, Luca over $100 million in this because he's not signing now the Super Max. But you saw even Janis talking today about it. You saw KD talking about it. A lot of this is about, and a lot of talk all the time.

I think Luca was one of the key questions in his preseason interview was, is there any... should fans be afraid that he wants to sign up in Dallas and it's always about the player and then all of a sudden it's the team that makes a move like a business move. And I think this is why Luca's father was offended, but he made it clear that it's directed to one person. He loved the city, he loved the organization, he loved the fans especially. I think he generally loved being in Dallas. It feels like the only thing that makes sense is that its ownership didn't want to pay that, you said it would be an extra 100 million overall, and that would put them into the luxury tax and that they didn't get into this to do that.

That's the only justification I can make for this whole thing. I think it's also the timing, because I listened a little bit to your prior show and I agree that the whole logic of Nico was and you see him, he admitted that and everybody admitted that. He talked only to Pelika and he talked only about AD. So if you want AD and you go back to the timeline that we thought, you want this year, this

playoffs, because nobody knows how many more Kyrie and AD have. So you cannot afford to live, not to skip this year playoffs and wait to the summer, because the best business move, the best transaction would be for even if you want to move on from look and wait for the summer, signing into super max and then trading. Because that would be that's how you get the best hold because the team that's getting in is getting on super max and you can really get the best return. But I think they wanted it now because they want to, they think they can compete with AD and Kyrie. And I did at the beginning of the season, I did projection for Kyrie how long his peak will last. And best case scenario

could be two, three years, but even if it's three years, you cannot just scrap one, you know, one away. Although you would still have Luca in 5.1. That's when you think for this year. That's the logic that's a little bit fraught in this, but I think they want that AD and they want the team this season for these playoffs, if they make it, which is still, will be a tough fight. Yeah. And I don't know if you saw this while we were waiting to have you on, but Kirk

Goldsberry was on with Simmons today. And in addition to the, you know, I don't know if you saw this while we were waiting to have you on, but Kurt Goldsberry was on with Simmons today. And in addition to the, you know, I don't know exactly where the Tim McMahon reporting reporting came that, uh, the Mavericks had gone tired, had grown tired of Luca's approach to fitness and conditioning. Now we have Kurt Goldsberry who worked in the league is very plugged in saying, you know, they had grown concerned about not just his diet but his drinking. That just seems like a really odd one to throw in there to me.

I mean, I remember whenever that he was going to be drafted or the run up to the draft, he was 18, and you would hear from people like, this guy likes to party. And I'm like, the guy who lives in Madrid at 18 and is one of the most famous guys in the city, it doesn't seem that shocking to me. You know, it's a different culture over there.

Uh, perhaps it's, it's obvious. Yeah. The guy wants to go have some beers and he's going to enjoy himself in the off season, but it feels like very nasty work to me to be bringing all this stuff up. It makes me ashamed to be a Mavericks fan. Somebody is giving that info to Kirk Goldsberry. So, you know, I know the guy's not a saint, but I don't, were you aware that there was some huge problem here and friction between his people and the Mavericks, meaning his training staff and, and dietitian? Cause this just seems like it came out of

nowhere. No, I think it was Shams who reported about this friction also today or yesterday about friction, about math training, and I wrote a little bit about it, I think. You can see that basically they removed or people left. Everybody who was really close to Luca in the last three years, right? So all the people from Casey Smith, Scott Tomlin, to Igor Kokoschko, to the players that were the closest with him, everybody's gone, right? So I think that his training staff, two guys from Slovenia and the Spanish guy, I think were the only people, let's say, in the Luka circle who were still left in

the organization. And he basically was the only guy who was not brought by Nikko under his regime. So basically, I think that's why I used the phrase about ego and how ego is the enemy. I think I see this whole thing from outside, kind of, look, I build this thing and I want to build my way. Because going back to the lifestyle and your comments, I think there are always some things about that and a lot of things, even if you talk to my people, they would mention it sometimes. But it's also, I think what they mentioned in the past is how Luka is really, how everybody is afraid of Luka, but I'm not saying because he's so scary, but because he's such a big persona and how everybody like LeBron in LA

and every big superstar, I would assume Jokic and everything, the whole organization revolves around them. And I think they didn't like that. I think they didn't like to be, you being there is the biggest alpha in the organization who is like the orphans, heliocentric. So the organization is very heliocentric and turns around him. Man.

Yeah, because typically, I guess, to follow up on that, where you run into a problem is when a guy that, you know, not just on the floor, but culturally, everything is centered around, you run into a problem when that guy wants out. And that can be a problem. They can hold you hostage. But that wasn't occurring.

Like, they had dodged the bullet. We had made it to a point where Luca had already signed a second contract, indicated he wanted to sign a third. Like they were getting lucky over and over again, not just to get him, but for him to want to stay. And you get lucky enough to build your whole program around a guy like that. So to your point, I, other than, Hey, I whole program around a guy like that. So to your point, other than, hey, I want to be the guy in charge, meaning Nico over Luca,

I'm not sure there's a better explanation than that, but that one is very sad. Yeah, and the way he came in. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I didn't even understand that, I think. If they said, okay, we don't trust Luca is the guy we have concerns about it. But you trade that for one, two good years of Anthony Davis, who has never proven he can, or Kyrie at that point that they can lead like the lead guys, a team to a championship, I don't know if you do that move, then you're

probably like he said, and like everybody, the whole NBA, you go on the market and you get whatever you want. Because obviously there are teams that will give you that, but they want this one two-year window, which to me is the craziest thing. What was his dad like yesterday? I think his dad is always the same. He's not a guy that, let's say, would stress a lot about things. He's very easygoing. I think that was why he was really serious. He said, look, the only thing that bothers me is how they did the whole thing. So how the whole thing was done. It's not anything else, I think. And this is, like I said, I think that even the NBA players noticed, you know,

like I said, Yanis, KD, and this, I think is something that maybe it's something that long-term can hurt the Mavericks. I said, Janis, Katie, and this I think is something that maybe it's something that's long term can hurt the networks. That's an understatement. Clay says he's got a, Luca has put out a video. What's up, Laker fans? I'm in LA. Excited to meet you all.

All right incredible production But also uh, I don't know man when I saw you sitting on the paint on the plane with Rob fake low Palinka I Had to just I shut the laptop like I can't because I it looked like I read I'm reading way too much into it and Like I can't, because it looks like I'm reading way too much into it and I'm looking at Luca's face on the Lakers plane as he's just kind of still bleary-eyed and coming to and in my mind projecting onto him I'm imagining him sitting there being like you motherfuckers have no idea what I'm about to do. He's a he the huge winner in all this. You do not know how bad I'm going to make this hurt for everyone. Luca's the big winner though. He doesn't have to, yeah.

He's now sympathetic. He played the good soldier. He lost a bunch of money in the process. Yeah, didn't make any complaints or moans or grumbles. He was never the guy begging out. Yeah. Never any indication. always the greatest teammate. In fact, that's another thing.

Don't you know a bunch of people, and you do too, his talk, like within the Mavs organization. And we'll hear things, like if a guy is kind of no good, even when he's there, like we were hearing about Christian Wood early on. It's like, ah, and that bothered me because I like Christian Wood. But you know, you'll hear

things about certain, oh, this guy's an a-hole. When Kyrie was in Cleveland, I got friends that worked for the Cavs, and he is a different person now. He was an a-hole in Cleveland. He was young, he was immature. I've never heard anything like, have you guys about Luka? Like behind the scenes. And that's, I think that's the neglected part that people don't often think about when they think about him. I think, yeah, the conditioning, the thing that's the most obvious. I think the thing we look at on everything is that his flaws and his things that he's good at are very obvious. I think some things like he always plays hurt. He always wants to play.

He has the passion for the game. And this is a little bit different, like you said, with a guy like Kyrie, even AD, you know, that's why they play the same amount of games basically. And one guy is like always out of shape and the two guys are the best professional because Luka always want to play and he sometimes even to his fault. So yeah, I agree. It's the same here on the Slovenia national team. Nobody they would complain about how he behaves on the court when he's passionate about the

refs, how competitive he is and scrimmages and things like that. But then as soon as it's done, he's like a very shy and very, uh, let's say laid back person. It's easy going. Yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, I don't know what you have planned over the next couple of months. Um, but I would like to welcome you to Dallas, to Texas, to the States for April 9th, I welcome you to Dallas, to Texas, to the States for April 9th, because it is my goal to have the entire arena on Wednesday night, April 9th, in Mav's Luka, or excuse me, Laker's Luka shirts at the American Airlines Center. I swear to God, dude.

If we have an ounce of pride as a fan base, if you don't wanna do it because you're just Mavs all the way, I get it. Sit this one out. I think we all need to show up to that game in Lakers gear and be as loud as you've ever been for Luka ever. That would be a rocker to the Slovenian night. I think it's somewhere in, with our Swedish Linearturist Organization.

That's planned for the end of March. I think official sponsors of the Dallas Mavericks. I think I can get the same connection there. So yeah, maybe Slovenia classic. Maybe they could sign Mike Toby to attend a, the Slovenian national team member from, I believe Virginia. Oh man. Yeah. Slovenian national team member from I believe Virginia.

Get him in the mix. Oh man, yeah. I think that's what we need. You know, you saw people, somebody took a coffin to the front of the AXC. Yeah, did you see all the protests at the stadium? I was proud of us for that. Or at the arena? I was proud of us for that.

That felt good. Well, I read your stuff every single morning. I would suggest those out there who want to learn a little something about the Mavs or the NBA. It's just, it's a great read every day. Dig in, basketball, just search IzToc and Substack. And yeah, we'll figure this out together, my man. Thank you, thank you guys.

All right, there he goes, Is talk Franco D magazine and his own invaluable sub stack. Yeah he's one of the first people I thought about. It's like what's he gonna do? I'm serious dude. Yeah no we can we're losing him too. So as soon as I mean I'm gonna follow Luca that's why you said the country yeah Yeah, I bet the country they're probably fired up That was a back. Oh, yeah, he should work for the He should be on the Yankees. He should be on the you know, the Lakers. He's that's he's Luca. He's too big for Wherever we are. We're not middle America. I don't know what we are, but we're Yeah, no, we're not we're not a premier

but we're, we call it South America. Yeah, no, we're not a premier. You can go to a game on April 9th at the AAC where the Mavericks are hosting the Raptors for $30. You will not currently be getting in on the Lakers night, which it's always a big night, but for less than 300. And I am going to, I was already planning on buying tickets to a couple games before the end of the year and Then my requisite playoff trip with Blake

I'm gonna buy us two tickets to that game and we are gonna go in Lakers gear And everyone else should do the same and I bet you how much can you get in for well right now? It's like 300. Okay each you're just guessing you'll be able to get them cheaper? That or that'll just be the one game I go to instead of going to two regular season games in a playoff game My playoff game will be and I'm sure Nico won't be there I'm sure but I'd love if it were a moment like when When the owner of the Warriors before the Warriors got good They had just traded someone, someone big,

and he went out to center court to honor Chris Mullin, he got booed off the floor. I would imagine... That's what I want. I want the Mavs to play the Lakers in a playoff series. That would be amazing. Because that would root for the Lakers. I think I would too. At least for, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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QualysGC.com. So, we can see what we did this weekend. You want me to lead it off? Well, mine's kind of boring. I always have a boring one. I was a victim of sexism at Central Market. Do tell. Just in line and the lady, I didn't get, I didn't find Xander my cashier.

In fact, I went Friday night and this is how I like to party so if wife is doing book club or something or something on a Friday night I'd be like this is a perfect time to go grocery shopping for next week I honestly cuz I usually wait till Saturday and it's packed oh I definitely identify I get a little bit the only downside of hey book club wife going to dinner I get a little paralysis by analysis I'm like I could do so much shit like what can I right I could do nothing you know I could organize these photos I could go to the grocery store I could vacuum it's so great all those things that you can do

it really is but I went to yeah I went to Central Market to get my stuff for the weekend or for the entire week. And I had the lady cashier and then the lady bagger were having a discussion about football and they couldn't decide if they thought the Super Bowl was probably this Sunday. And then they said to me, when's the Super Bowl? Is it this weekend? And that's where I could confidently be like, this is my wheelhouse.

Yeah. I know you guys know you're looking at an alpha manly man. Absolutely, I know that it's next next Sunday. Matter of fact, having a couple of people over. That's right. Doing a live stream. Do you invite them? You ladies do do any YouTube? Really where do you

broadcast? I don't know you ever hear of The World? Yeah. That's where we broadcast. Uh-huh. Yeah so everything's... Let's see. Oh and this is all like before we wake up Sunday morning. This Sunday morning? Oh yeah. I called Dan at 4am and said, call me when you wake up. Long day. So it must have been Saturday night. Maybe it was Friday night, but we're taking the dogs on a walk and it's starting to get dark out.

And my wife is going nuts. She's like, what's that big bright star? It's right by the moon. There was like the crescent moon, the it's Mac tonight moon. And then the really bright star and she I'm like, that's a plane. She's like, it's not moving. And then she's just standing there. The dog's tugging her like she wants to. She's going to get to the bottom of this? Yeah, she's like, wait, then there, look at that one over there. And she goes, I swear there's something going on.

And I'm like, yeah, whatever. You could, you always can see stars. Well, anyway, she went in and did a little research, Aaron Rodgers style, by Google. And apparently there's some kind of a celestial event, a little planetary... And you didn't know about this? We could see like three or four planets.

Did you not hit allowed notifications? We could see Venus. On space.com? You could actually see Venus with the naked eye. Which all eyes are kind of like that, right? You've never seen an eye with a sweater on. Formal? You can wear glasses you

can't roast your eyes fit well I mean I think the naked eye would go with you wearing your glasses too right no okay whatever you two are doing right now stop I don't like it why can't we have a conversation I don't like that at all cut that off strike naked eye from the record that didn't happen and then Saturday this is is all Saturday because all hell broke loose on Saturday. Well, I mean, I think we need the conclusion to the story after you guys noticed that this was such a unique

celestial event, did you go in and smash? Oh yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'll give you a- Because I know that's what gets them going, the moon. I'll give you Neptune. Yeah, I'll give you a Saturn's ring. Right here. Yeah, Uranus is right there.

Uranus is sitting right there for us on a T. I swear, like I've never. I'll travel to. Look, you say what you want about Uranus. I've never been a Uranus joke guy. Yeah. Just didn't, not my thing. No, too low.

I know, even as a child. Your eyebrow. Come on guys. That being said, daughter had a lot of questions about it last week and I was dying laughing. It's like, what do you mean it's not a planet? What happened to Uranus? And I'm like, say it again.

What did happen? I think Uranus is a planet, Pluto's not, right? Oh, that might've been, somehow we were talking about Uranus, Pluto, yeah. They cut Pluto from the team. And then, but Saturday also, that was the day we did unload the whole... Closet.

Closet, or the attic, I guess it would be. What do you call it in the den? I don't know. It's like attic space. It's storage but we totally unloaded it. You know, paired down. We had like four bins for Easter decorations. We paired that down to two. We paired down the Halloween bins from three to two. We paired down the Christmas bins from three to two. We pared down the Christmas bins from 15 to 12. Solid. So really felt really good about things. I love what I'm doing. Because you came in yesterday

and still had some remnants of that lying around. We're trying to get ready for Super Bowl. And if you're not feeling squared away by that, because everything's like behind the scenes, like I have to open that closet to actually feel good and nod. Washed all the sheets. the sheets and comforters. And man, what a night.

Wow. What a night of sleeping that night was. Damn, that's good. Don't you feel real squared away when you wash everything? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, like Jake mentioned, had a pretty big Argyle basketball doubleheader Friday night.

The Lady Eagles lost for the first time in their new arena. They have a new arena? Built it in 2020. Wow. So I think they had started 42 and 0 there. Damn. And first loss. We'll hear that audio tomorrow, by the way.

Great. So that was Friday night. Had a real squared away Saturday. Jake, you mentioned vacuuming and did a little mopping, did some vacuuming, straightened it up. Love a mop. Love a mop. Got the, boy, I'm going to sound dumb, on your stove top.

Take those little black things off. Great. Scrub underneath. Who's got it better? Kitchen was pristine on Saturday before I went to the grand opening of the Cane Rosso in Saxie. Oh yeah.

I did look at that location and thought Blake will be at this with a Tupperware. It's right by his house. Oh no doubt. He's hitting his hard. No doubt. You didn't go to the one in Lake Highlands, right? I did. Oh you did? Yeah, I like to support our friend Jay. Okay, I didn't see you there one in Lake Highlands, right? I did.

Oh, you did? Yeah, I like to support our friend Jay. Okay, I didn't see you there. No matter where he opens up a restaurant. I guess you went late. I wanted to be one of the first. Yeah. I know you're thinking of a comeback there.

Yeah. I was going to, I mean, I don't really have a comeback just like as much as I love Jay, love pizza, I just love my family. So I got, sometimes. I took my 92 year old. I guess you gotta have a lot to pay them back for since you left for a month. Ha ha ha, fuck you.

Took my 92 year old grandpa, we had some pizza on Saturday night. Oh. Did you tell him you'd give him up for Luca? No, cause it hadn't happened yet. Oh, okay. That's right. I think if I took, like, Connery Rosso's probably,

it's probably my favorite pizza in the city, but I'm pretty sure if I took my grandfather there, he would be like, what is this? Yeah, I got a pizza. Honey? Like, he'd be like, this is lib pizza, this is. I got a pizza with a- Woke pizza.

Yeah, for sure. I got a pizza with arugula on it, and I'm pretty sure he wanted to call me the F-slur. Yeah, no. Again. Arugula. Yeah. You I'm pretty sure he wanted to call me the F-slur. Yeah, no, again, arugula. Yeah. You knew it was coming, Clayton. First chance to see the new SSG roster this weekend,

as we had a Halo online tournament on Sunday. That was really neat to see, the boys in action. He told me he's traveling. I thought about it. That road map, they got leaked, was false. Oh. There is gonna be two tournaments here in Dallas that I will be at, both of them.

And then I recorded Brooks, told him that Luca got traded. And the Mavs, kind of our bedroom routine, when he's not ready to go to bed, he sees me watching the game, he's then all of a sudden into basketball. He can pick out Luca, he knows Kyrie, we went watching the game, he's then all of a sudden into basketball. He can pick out Luca, he knows Kyrie, we went to the game, he loved it.

He's somewhat familiar with what's going on. And so I hit record and I told him the bad news. And here's my three year old's reaction to Luca getting traded. Hey Brooks, guess what? Luca is gonna play for another team now if you get a first you gotta play he's gonna play for the yellow team I, but he's gonna play with LeBron. I don't like him team.

You like him playing here? Yeah. Do you still like him? I want the blue. Do you want to cheer for the yellow team now? No. You still like the blue team? Hell yeah. Yeah. You still like Kyrie?

Do you? Look at us blue. I know but he's not he doesn't play for the blue team anymore. Why? Because he got traded. Why he got traded? Because they said he got fat. Why he got traded? Because they said he got fat. Why he got fat? I don't know why he got fat. Let me start playing the why game. Every question. Or everything. That was tough.

That can be why. He just wants Luca to be on the blue team. That's tough. That hurt. I think he echoed the sentiments of many people here in Dallas. I did some level of squared-away-edness. With the help of my stepdad, I unloaded a huge storage pod that I could finally stop paying for in the front of my house. that I can finally stop paying for in the front of my house.

I like to have a nice, I think 90 minutes is a good amount of physical work on a Saturday. Anything beyond that, you're like, what am I spending all day doing this? You know what I mean? Like you look at your day and you're like, oh Jesus, I got a day? But I said, hey, this is gonna take us 90 minutes. And that's what it took

Burn some cows. I bet stepdad loves a little physical work on a Saturday. Oh He's about it for anything really yeah. Yeah, he's he's a he's man-man He's the kind of guy that would help you build your own fence sure and has done so on more than one occasion But my my Friday night we went to dinner with friends, just one of our couple's birthday party, just went out and had a nice little Italian dinner, and then we went to the Meow Wolf location. Oh yeah, yeah.

Did you get some cold bread? At Grapevine Mills. I did not really get to the bottom of the cold bread situation when we looked at the menu. They do serve alcohol, and they serve like, crazy, zany, fizzy drinks. Here's the thing, I didn't really know what this was going in.

I knew that it was reported as a big deal when Grapevine got one. It is actually at Grapevine Mills Mall in a former, I don't know, a TJ Maxx or something. It's basically an art installation, an art piece. It started in Santa Fe. They have a couple of other ones throughout the country. They're all different and it's just done

by this ever-evolving collective of artists that just do cool street art. And the one in Grapevine, it's kind of like a modern take on a fun house. Like you'd have at the fair or whatever where there's mirrors everywhere. I don't really know how to explain to you what I experienced other than this.

Let's leave aside what I did, didn't consume and when I did consume or didn't consume it. You could walk into this place totally stone sober and they have recreated what it feels like to be on mushrooms. Based on sound, based on light, based on the layout of the place, based on changes in elevation,

because you know what kind of, I'm just gonna speak to Dan on this. You know when you're on mushrooms you know, kind of when, I'm just going to speak to Dan on this. You know when you're on Mushroom Stings, it kind of wavy? It's like that. You're in a house and then you're outside and now you're in some weird Tron looking setting. It's bonkers.

Is this a permanent place? Yeah. Okay. You can go, I mean... It's not like the ice sculpture that... No, it's been there since the summer of 23. I think it's $40 to get in, but you could find coupons. And we spent about two hours in there.

They kind of give you a little prompt at the beginning of, hey, here's what's happening here, look for this, look for that. But there's really nothing to look for. The point is you go into this setting, this space, and just walk around and make of it what you will for a couple hours. So if you are on some kind of a hallucinogenic, it's gonna be totally great.

And even if you're not, it's great. I think so. I think if you were just into the confusing way in which your mind works and art, which I wouldn't say I'm like a big art guy, but you walk in there and you're just overwhelmed with like, damn, this is cool. Everything about this is cool.

And it's kind of weird, creepy. It's got like 1% Tim Burton. But as you know- You're anti Tim Burton. I'm very anti Tim Burton. So I can't get too much Timmy B in there. But it's worth your time. I would say...I don't know that I would go back because I don't

know the point of that. I gotta get it. But it's just a place to go get lost. So it's not the dinner place? No. Okay, you went to dinner, but then you went there. Yeah. How much does it cost? Like I said, I think it was 40 or 50 bucks,

but you can get a, I think you can get like group packages and group haunts and the like. And yeah, you know, I was with a couple of buddies who maybe on its surface are not like the most hippy dippy types to the extent that I am, and they were just like, what are we doing? What am I supposed to be doing?

What's the point of this? Okay, now I'm paring down the people I thought you went with. And the guy's working there is like, man, you just figure it out. Just be, bro. And that's really what it is. You're gonna spend the first 15 or 20 minutes,

like being on drugs, just wondering, what am I doing? What am I supposed to do here? What is the point of this? And then eventually your brain settles in on the idea, the point of it is for me to just be here. Man. I think you'd really like it. Is it open all day?

Or is it like an evening thing? No idea. My guess, available online. You're telling me, look it up on my phone. Mm-hmmhmm, but I'm also telling you I think you'd really like it, okay, I Don't think Blake would oh I think Blake would want to shove it in a locker and tell it to die to s die its blue hair back get a Get a colored shirt. I enjoyed it quite a bit though And also I'm here to report that

I now feel bad about my weekend Brahms trip because your friend made me feel like that's basically the same as drinking oh just because it's simply something that provides a dopamine hit which is all anybody's ever trying to do it's about managing the degree in which you engage in those dopamine hits but your guy now it doesn't mean you didn't go. No, but I didn't feel bad. You just felt bad. I didn't feel bad about it.

Okay. Good. I mean, I'm not good that you felt bad. But other than that, I just spent the weekend being sad about basketball. I felt like a breakup Sunday. Yeah. Try to do something to take it off your mind

and then 10 minutes in you think about it. I caught myself just kind of staring into space with the family a few times and even got called out on it. Just like you're thinking about it. I've just had in my mind that the next decade we're going to have this awesome thing here. Like I wouldn't even allow myself to think that something could go awry,

that he would want to leave at some point for some reason. Oh, I had certainly entertained the idea that after about eight years maybe he'd say, look, I'm just not feeling the vibes here and move on, on his own. But as far as never considered, no, never in a billion years did I consider they would be the ones to break up with him. That had never, never entered the chat. I was going to his Instagram and Twitter, just refreshing, is he posted yet? Is he thinking about me?

I'm gonna look up, I'm gonna do a, my research project tonight is gonna be worst trades of all time. Yeah, you said worst NBA trade. This may be worst sports trade. Is this well I suppose time will tell. Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson nothing can be Deshaun Watson right? Um yeah it can. It definitely can because the people in Cleveland were not already bought in on Deshaun Watson And then like it's worse for the team maybe but if we're talking about overall impact Yeah, just overall the Browns the people in Cleveland are like well. We didn't even really know this guy

We knew he had problems when we got it, and they were kind of on board with the trade at the time The people in Cleveland yeah like oh, okay okay we can get a top flight quarterback. Alright you sold us on this. Yeah but they didn't have time to like fully fall in love with them and be bought like this is this from a impact standpoint this is way worse. Yeah as far as affecting an entire city. I would say it's never happened before. Okay, I won't do the project. You've just convinced me that... No! That's how science works. We offer a little hypothesis and then... Science?

You do all the work and then you come back and tell me what happened. Aw, man. Now they're posting videos of Luca at charity events. This isn't gonna get better for a long time. No. And then this idiot's gonna be out of town. Like Nico. He'll just be out. They may both be out of town!

Dumont as well! They could sell this in a few years. I mean, I don't know how much you want to get into all that stuff. Obviously there's that really viral thread of a guy who works in law and real estate. The Vegas? Yeah, yeah. And I don't know if that guy listens or if he just follows me because he sent it to me as well, directly.

And you know, I don't know. There's probably something to it, but maybe we save that for tomorrow. Just the whole long con of turning the fanbase against them. They want to move the team or get a team in Vegas, and gambling in Texas isn't going as well as they thought, blah blah blah. Doesn't feel like the day for that. Or any of the other conspiracy theories, right? Because there's a lot of them. Like the league is rigged basically. Rigged to get LA needs their next great player. Yeah and that that that that was part of the deal when the Addilons

bought the team was hey we're we're gonna give Luca to LA. But that just feels like a level of deep conspiracy theory. I don't know if I can get into. I would buy it if LA also sent that other first. Like, why would you also then just make sure they could hold onto a first? How did they hold onto a first. How did they hold on to a first? How?

And they got the Mavs to throw in a second. That wouldn't make you feel any better if they did. But the point is that it adds to the insanity. No, it wouldn't. No, it would make you feel a little better. Like, well, gosh, they just broke the bank. If you told me Cooper Flag is here next year, it would help.

Like, if they somehow. Also, because I have a white quota I have to fill here. You know what? And I need Don't Connect and Cooper Flag. Yeah. I can't do this for just Anthony Davis. I'll get killed. But you got to call.

You're the Lakers. Call other teams. Figure it out. You see how the Clippers had to call and figure out how to get enough to To get Paul George. I mean just do that. Here's the thing. You're gonna have Luca. Yeah, but here's the thing My friend Eric put it this way and it's not really a conspiracy If they start going back and forth and back and forth and involving other teams Then there's a chance that that becomes public.

And if it does become public, the backlash would have 100% made its way to Dumont. Like, this had to be, he, Nico had to keep Patrick Dumont from understanding that there would be a memorial in front of the stadium the next morning. And if it got out, people would have revolted, and this trade would not have happened. I don't even believe Nico would have gone through with it.

If it had gotten out, we would have had a revolt, probably literally in person at the stadium, and it wouldn't have been able to be done. So he couldn't keep playing hardball because the main thing for him was get Luca out of here and that could only happen if no one knew about it and Poinca's like yeah, buddy. I'll keep it quiet for you. You can course he'll keep it quiet Palenka's absolutely like I can't believe this but you're right. You're right. We shouldn't tell anyone else You know what? I really want to but you got me me, Nico. Once again, I don't know how you

keep doing this to me. But, man, I don't know. I mean, Luca is kind of fat and drinks beer and stuff. I guess we'll take the risk, though. But you're saying if he got- I mean, I'm a gambler. I'm Rob Polinka, a gambler. If Luca got traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder for every single pick they have, that would make you feel better? Yes. It would make me, yes, at least like,

okay, now I can understand it all. Yeah, if they say- I don't know, man. Yeah, well, it can't make you feel worse. So you could say it's the same, but if they said, hey, we can't, we're just not a team that can do super maxes anymore, we gotta have young players. And they said, we have seven first round picks a team that can do super maxes anymore. We gotta have young players.

They said, we have seven first round picks. Then I can start to convince myself, well, maybe there'll be another guy in the next few years. Maybe we'll get our SGA or something. But no, it's still not good though. I'm still not like, solid work? Got rid of Luka, at least we got fair value. No, you're right about that.

All right, we keep going back to look here's Jay with the dumb zone news did you guys see over the weekend that in Canada the American national anthem was getting booed when played at sporting events. Oh, the tariff thing? Mm-hmm. Yeah, you thought that'd be big news. Well, and you know I, uh. Tariffs.

I didn't, it's gonna be big news when we have to start paying for it, but. We'll make them pay. I did not tell you guys about this part of going to go see Tom Green on Thursday night He yeah, he talked about it a decent amount You did say anytime he mentioned like guns they cheer. Yeah, he mentioned he doesn't have a gun they'd boo or something Yeah, and he brought up like oh, you know, maybe we'll be your 51st state people

Empire But it's kind of funny because it's Canada but I get the sense that they're they're really going through it like I think they are having a unity moment where people who typically fight with each other are now fighting the United States in their like discourse saying, screw those guys. Oh, okay, well that's cool. Well, boo their anthem.

Glad we can get everybody together. Do you think Americans are really, like really bummed out to hear the anthem booed in Canada? Think they care? I don't. No, we don't really care about Canada. They're good. We like them.

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What are you going to make ball up your little fist? But I picture it as the Kenny Pickett meme where it's like a really tiny fist. Yeah. But I picture it as the Kenny Pickett meme where it's like a really tiny fist. Yeah. But wait, so why should they be really mad? Because they say tariffs just will make the price higher on Americans. You stop buying their stuff. Okay, so is it because Canada might have to lower the price of their stuff then?

That would be one option, yeah. To make sure you keep buying it? Yeah. And there's a bunch of, there's a couple of like, you know, Parliament? Clayton, they got a Parliament? House of Commons? They got some stuff up there that we don't... I've seen representatives of areas in Canada saying, hey, we're ripping up our contract with this or that American company,

because we can't, this isn't gonna work. There's Canada flexing. A sports news story that dropped earlier this morning via the Associated Press, what a way to kick off Super Bowl week in New Orleans. I'm sorry, I just thought of this. Because this started a whole thing of what do we need to stock up on now?

God, dude, if anybody's gonna hit us with that, it's Blake. I just want to forewarn, specifically to Dan, that the price of toilet paper may go up. So, get your- Well I think I right now have at least four 48 packs at home. Okay, I just wanna make sure you're stocked up. Four 48 packs?

Or is it that it's 12 but it equals four? Do you know how they advertise that now? Don't care for that marketing bit. Don't care for it. So it makes me think I have 48 rolls of toilet paper, but it's only 12. You mean if I wanted to I could take this mega roll I could take this piece of toilet paper and separate it in half? Yeah. And have two? Yeah. Is there a way in which you could show me how to like?

It's the same size as yes the Mega Roll is like four rolls. And so yeah, it'll say like 12 equals 48. And so that's what I have. Yeah, I don't like it. So I have the equivalent of four 48 packs, but it's really four 12. And like, do you actually use four times less? I don't know, all I really need them to advertise is 12 packs of this won't get poop on your hand.

That's the grade I'm looking for. So they manufacture a lot of toilet paper up there? Yeah, a ton of it. Because of trees? Yeah, even the newspaper facility, like all of their trees, all the paper came from Canada. All of our paper comes from Canada. Rolling paper? Know what I mean, bruv? Stock up. So, back to the story of New Orleans, kicking off Super Bowl week now,

I'm sure people aren't tired of hearing me say this, I did have a sibling, or had, I have a sibling, and he did work for the New Orleans Saints for a couple years. Joe Kemp, everyone. And I can't say that I've specifically heard about this story, but I can say that anybody who's been around the Saints for any amount of time is like, you know, it's really kind of just a matter of time before the wider world figures out how strange

the inner workings of this family business are. Now, the owner and the owner's family, devoutly Catholic, big Catholic donors, and there have been rumors of some coordination between the New Orleans Saints and the local diocese in New Orleans with the Saints helping cover up child sexual abuse scandals. And as of this morning, with emails obtained by the Associated Press, that has pretty much been blown wide open. press that has pretty much been blown wide open. The article starts with as New Orleans church leaders brace for the fallout from publishing a list of predatory Catholic priests they turn to an unlikely I think it says ally. That's probably ally. The front office of the city's NFL franchise what

followed was a months long crisis communication blitz orchestrated by the New Orleans Saints president and other top team officials according to hundreds of internal emails obtained by the Associated Press. They played a more extensive role than previously known in a PR campaign to mitigate fallout from the clergy sexual abuse crisis. So this is like, their, you know, Scent or Rick Welts or their Scott Tomlin from the Mavericks or Joe Trahan from the Cowboys. Like sometimes you'll get an email from the Cowboys PR that's like, it's not hey, Dorrance Armstrong released. It'll say, you know, bad bunny at the star this week,

whatever. Well occasionally, apparently, if you work for the Saints, you also have to help cover up Catholic Church child sex abuse crises. Well, I bet the Saints will really pay for this. Sure, they'll get in some big trouble. to I don't I mean, I don't know I Know what you're saying cynically, but I don't I mean the Catholic Church had to pay big They're not even a thing anymore Well, I know what you're saying, but they do have to pay out a lot of money you know like they get sued for these diddles a lot and if the if the Saints get wrapped up in that,

as a party to a lawsuit, that's not good for the Benson family. But, again. How's that gonna affect Kellen Moore? Is he there yet? He is not, but that was certainly the first thing people started saying to me was like. Oh, that's right right he's coaching in the Super Bowl yeah but I mean it hasn't like come out that it's done yeah well but it I don't think it can till

till the Super Bowl's over yes I don't know that he's probably gonna be their coach and he's just gonna have to deal with it now does it is he is he worried based on the fact that he kind of looks like an altar boy? Don't know yet. Is there a bounty joke in here somewhere? There probably is. There probably is. We just got to work for it.

I like the altar boy thing though. Like the altar boy thing, yeah. I like where you're going there. Greg Williams quote was kill the head and the body will thing, yeah, because what was Greg? I like where you're going there. Greg Williams, thank you. Greg Williams' quote was kill the head and the body will die, right? Take time here. I don't know. It's not like they're gonna lose a draft pick,

but it's certainly not a good look for the organization. The president of the team in emails urged the city's newspapers to work with the church. Like hear the church out. Why are you believing this kid? Look at this kid, this rich kid now, he's got all this money. For what? For laying there.

Is that what the email said? I'm just paraphrasing the email. For what? For laying there. Pffft. Is that what the email said? I'm just paraphrasing the email. That is pretty much what it said. We had another plane crash on Friday night. Uh, not a big commercial one, is it? No. Okay. Good. But it was a medical transport plane. It was in Philly. Was it attacked by

Philly? Yeah, like they attacked the robot. Like the robot? The kindness robot? They attacked the plane? A medical plane? What a medical plane? It's gay. This is an interesting one though because Well, I guess all the people that survived but were injured were on the ground, so that might not. That's not good? Well that doesn't really fit. Did everybody die that was in the plane?

I think so. Yeah, I think so. 22 people were injured, but I believe that's the case. But the video is wild. We're in that era now. Where just about everything's's gonna be on video. Yeah and I've told you before you know the Russian dashcam where I mean you get meteors, meteors, meteors, meteors. I've been told that we should get a dashcam, everybody should have one. Yeah. I guess they're pretty cheap. I mean, I think you would definitely need it

if you drove a lot in a, like, an urban area where people are dingin' your car and... But this also just works into my gummy thought from last week that in time, from some angle, every aspect of your life will be on video throughout the entire day. It's just on you to hit the button. From some angle, like from of your life will be on video throughout the entire day. It's just on you to hit the button. From some angle, like from female POV?

Could be. That's what Blake likes. Could be. Just feeling like a big boy. Yeah, when we talked about that last week, somebody told me that Tesla has a video camera inside, all of them filming you, so they can figure out if you're responsible for a wreck or not.

Really? Yeah. That makes sense. They've had the external cameras for a while. If somebody dings you, it'll record the previous 15 seconds or something like that. Like a ring camera type thing that just on the Tesla?

Kicks in then. The cameras these days, well we were in that Rivian car. I took a test drive in that. And that's incredible. They've got cameras all over the car. You could see every little thing outside the car. It's great. You could not even look at the road and just drive. I don't know if that's true. Saw an interesting note on a couple of our local news websites. So we talked about it last week, Dr. Phil boots on the ground deporting illegals as he was called to do by the television gods. By, was it Mark Burnett? Those are the celebrity apprentice reality show king. But it's funny because, so there's people protesting

these deportations. That's not actually the funny part. Yeah, I saw that in Dallas, right? Yeah. A lot of marches. A lot of marches. And that always works too. Usually you go ahead and march and then whatever it is

you don't like stops. You're right. Yes. I don't know the answer. I think it's cool. You're right. I don't know the answer. I think it's cool. You're right. But it never does work, right? It's not never. I guess it does. I don't know what it does. It's very subjective. There are times where- If you don't do anything, then it's like, oh, you're just lying back and taking this? Oh, okay, well, we'll go protest. What did that do?

I don't know. Probably not much. Stop traffic? Probably not much. But you wanna feel like I'm doing something. Yeah. So there were protests for a second straight weekend all over Dallas, in front of Dallas City Hall

Sunday afternoon. And look, I'm really bummed about Luca. Really bummed. But there is kind of a reality check moment when you show up to a protest in your Luca jersey with a big X over the Mavericks thing and you have a sign that's like fire Nico Harrison and you look over to the guy next to you like yeah you know F these guys what are you here for and they're like oh no I'm here for the immigration deportation protest they deported my whole family including my three-year-old child and those two

protests were taking place together all Sunday within about four miles of each other. You know like wait three years old? I've been following Luca for six. Right yeah what was his upside? Right. Was he like the greatest child like one of the greatest five children that has been on this planet? No actually listen actually tell me how many children that you would you would take over. Because Luca is actually one of the greatest five basketball players to come along in the last 50 years. So you better be sure about that. So tell me how bad you missed that kid now. Better be sure about that. But yeah, I just imagine these guys. Although I bet he

didn't get a kid back. That's a good point. You got an older kid back, I got a nine-year-old back for him. He's a lot more dependable. I laugh thinking about those two people getting on Dart together. Like at the end of Sunday afternoon. Does that just show the idiocy of sports? It probably does. Which of those protests had more of a meaningful impact? Well, let's do it this way instead.

Let's say that both those protests would have occurred before the ensuing action. Luca traded or the three-year-old deported. I'm of the mind that three-year-old was gonzo no matter what. Had this MAVS trade been leaked beforehand, the protests might have actually stopped it. Right, the deportations were very leaked.

Yes, and happening. That we're going to work on this. You know, in fact- It's kind of a guy yelling at it all the time. I won't even do it unless y'all vote in this way. Yeah. Then we'll do it. Yeah.

Oh, man. That's all I got, it. Yeah. Oh man, that's all I got guys, whatever. I know. This DEI now this. The Down Zone News, like and subscribe. It's funny people always look, I don't know if you guys can always see this, but people at these DZTV studios always walk by and then there's gotta be a guy explaining. I would like to...

I wonder if we could put a microphone out there so we could hear the explanation for what this is that's in there. I don't know, these two spares that I don't know who they are. Somehow they've... Guy kind of showed up. There used to be a conference room, we were like, whatever, we turned around and... Now they do this, so what is it? I don't really know, I think it's a podcast or something.

Yeah, you're probably right. All right, well let me show you actually the real TV studio though. Then he's like, oh cool. Like, cause sometimes people walk in this way and it's on the way. Like is this it? To go see Doocy.

Yeah, where's Mike Doocy? They walk by and they're like, we don't even go in there, that's where the bad boys do their stuff. I think that's what they say. By the way, what was in your lunch today, Blake? Don't, stop asking questions about my food. All right, so we had some rice and some veggies.

We go, are we 93.7, ground beef in this? Sure. What was in there? Why don't you just answer? Why does it matter? He's just a friend that wants to know. No, he has ulterior motives. There's no ulterior motives, you look good.

You have been looking good, dude. And I see that you're bringing, it didn't look like leftovers from a restaurant, did a little meal prep? Yeah, I did some meal prep yesterday. We go. What we go with I just made a big pot of jasmine rice Oh made a big pot of ground turkey through some mixed veggies in there, and I'm trying to be healthy What a guy look at that those mac you're all set for the whole week freaking chart I think I made eight meals out of yesterday Wow what you season the turkey with

nothing out of yesterday. Wow. What'd you season the turkey with? Nothing. Blake. I might throw some sauce in there, I don't know. You got birthdays to read? Rocket sauce. And Dan's over here eating beyond meat, bulking up. That's right. But I will proudly tell you that I'm-

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Try putting uh, thank you. Just get taco seasoning a taco seasoning packet Did a plane crash today or somebody murdered? It's better Good yeah Clayton back there. Who's just having Lucy for lunch Living off a Couple of viewer mail birthdays for today. I don't know if anything's rolled in while we've been doing the program. I guess I'm not going to find out either. Dan, Jake, and Blake, today is intern Rachel's 31st birthday. Wow. Wow, indeed. We are in Vegas. I know. And saw Nate Bargazzi,

Vegas. Hey now. And saw Nate Bargatze, who helped us laugh away the tears from the Luka trade from DF Colin or Colin. Could be Colin. Tennis Colin. That is Rachel's husband, Colin. Rachel's 31. Good for her. That is good for her. Way to go, Rachel. Dear Virgin Surgeon. All right, yeah, I like that a lot. My buddy Chuck D is turning 48 on the first. He's an Aggie too. That's all. Suck it from Tyler. And dear Walloper of the whispering eye, I'm writing to you for my own birthday, which was yesterday, Feb 2. It was my Josh Hamilton birthday, which means I celebrated by going on a bender ripping lines of coke and cheating on my wife in an Arlington bar bathroom. Hope I didn't miss any big sports news while I was in my booze and drug induced blackout.

Anyway y'all are my leaders, especially Jake and all his courage. Plus the can of snakes exploding into another can of snakes. P.S. tell Blake to reach out if he'd like to set up some time for me to come on the show. This is from, the guy's name is Caleb Williams, the quarterback who paints his nails. Yeah, see if you can grab him. Book him, boy. Excuse me. So it's Monday, February 3rd. On this day in 1870, it was the 15th amendment to the Constitution.

Which? Couldn't tell you. No? No. No guess? Ty Walker? Any guess? No.

Hey Ty. Hi Ty. Hey guys. I thought you might want to expand on that a little bit, but no, okay. Nah, it's okay. It granted black American men the right to vote. Black American men. Which seems really, I don't know, it all seems really weird.

And it does show you that, hey hey just because the Constitution does say one thing I guess you could change it. Mmm if times change funny that This day in 1959 is the day the music died rock and roll stars Buddy Holly Richie Valens and A couple other people died in a small plane crash. Don't forget the big bopper. The big bopper, well, he was among the others. Yeah, but he had a name though.

Yeah. The others didn't? If you have a name, you get mentioned in the postscript. Sabine Pass, huh? What other boppers were there? Sabine Pass, huh? What other boppers were there? Um, yeah, the diminutive bopper. On this day in 1998, Texas executed Carla Faye Tucker.

Mm, yeah, she cut their arms off. She was 38 for the pickaxe killings of two people in 1983. The first woman executed in the US since 1984. Look at that. So 1998, it took them from 84 to 98 to say, yes, let's kill another woman. Trailblazer. On this day in 2000, that's another thing

that women don't think about, why it's so tough to be a man. They'll kill us at the drop of a hat. We get killed way more often, and nobody even, they don't write a story like, oh man, this day in history, they just do it. Mm-hmm. More attractive than I would've thought.

Carla Faye Tucker? Yeah. She's pickaxe hot. Yeah, I think in her day she probably... And on this day in 2002, it was the beginning of the... I would've let her, yeah, pickaxe me. Go ahead. Patriots dynasty. This is when they beat the Rams, 20 to 17.

Super Bowl 36. Do we were gonna have to endure 50 more years of Tom Brady annoyingly being in our lives? Yeah, it could be another 20. Yeah. Maybe if he wants it, yeah, probably 30. Yeah. Plus, he's kind of ageless. That's what I'm saying. He's only 47. He gets super rock hard, healthy erections while he sleeps, I'm sure, like Brian Johnson. while he sleeps, I'm sure, like Brian Johnson.

Brian Johnson. Trying to reverse his age, or live as long as he can. The Don't Die guy we were talking about. Oh. Who? Not the ACDC singer? No. No. Other birthdays today, RugnedOdors31.

Wow! Oh, look. Boom, right there there. Right there. I was there. You were? Ty? Yeah. That was uh. Sunday. Yeah Sunday game. It was on May 15th my birthday. Went to the Rangers game for my birthday and I got to witness that. Are you chanting USA? Let's watch it one more time. I love how the glasses fall off of Jose Bautista's face. Yeah, I got caught up in the moment. When he punches him, it's just so good. So good.

Oh, still shot. Skip Shoemaker is 45. The baseball coach? The Rangers are apparent to Boach. OK. He's the Rangers bench coach now, isn't he? He teaches the bench how to sit there. It would just seem to me that with Kip Fag,

it would seem that he would have to sign off on Skip Shoemaker. Would it to you? I believe a lot of things that the Rangers do, especially if it is a bridge between the big club and the minor leagues. Yeah, regarding Kip Fag, it would seem like they would have to just all be on the same page just so that- It's important. They know how to develop- It's very important. He he's their minor league y'all are so childish what

do you mean you know I don't understand anything what I'm hearing is two guys talking about the future of a baseball team and what's best the talking sport not to tell me it's the hot stove league, you know? Yeah, I've moved on from this Luca thing. It's truck day. Let's go Rangers, yeah. Something. How many sleeps?

I don't know, man. I'm gonna be into baseball this year. No, you won't. Yes, I am. What does that even mean? I'm gonna know all the happenings in the world of baseball. So vague. Just stay tuned.

Richard Bartel is 42. Whoa, that's a great find, Mustang, right there. Go ahead, Dan. What do you want me to say? You had a nickname for him. I did not have a nickname. I had a listener told me that they heard that they would call him backdoor Bartel because he would football games they would always score late and cover maybe

yeah maybe I don't know what you're saying he was very good in high school no way Lade Divac 57 validated and vindicated. Was he right? See? Nobody wants to touch Luca. That's the thing, man. We were making fun of other people who wouldn't take Luca. Then you had him.

Like, you dream of just having it. Like, ah, man. If you could just luck into getting one of those guys someday. My God. They had it. I'm just seeing all these reports coming out now. This one's from, this is a, looks like Sam Amick, Joe Varden,

the big heavy hitters at the athletic have like a full breakdown as to how this all happened, the trade. Here's a quote. Can I get it for you here quickly? The Lakers kept the 2021 pick out of the trade after not being allowed to speak with Luca Doncic's agent. The quote is, the Mavericks weighed that extra pick against the risk of the trade falling apart after word of it spread to Dantzic, with him potentially becoming disgruntled in the process. So it's pretty much exactly what we thought, right? That they... That's the me- Jesus Christ, dude.

That is, uh... That is fireable. That's re- That's really bad. And you're going to tell me it's a problem if I go to Brahms on the way home. Go to Brahms. Thank you. You got me to rehab and now you're... I've been having too many of those hundred calorie chocolate bars. Those things are great.

I am at... What's it called again? Yasso. Yasso, yeah. I never go above two and I try to limit it to every other night. There are a hundred calories. So we're eating the same amount

cause I'll have one per night. Okay. And I'll justify it with, I went to the gym today the Or I went to the gym yesterday So I get to do that two days in a row the caramel the sea salt car sea salt caramel And I don't know where you fall on caramel, but it's no that's a great one It's a good one that will fall off the stick. It's too soon. Well, cuz there's no I like the chocolate. There's no case Yeah, the case they have a caramel one with chocolate crunch around it.

Really? Ooh, the chocolate crunch around it can be dicey too if you don't eat it fast enough. This is all true. But that's a good one. Call us. Fran Tarkinen is 85. Didn't know he was still alive. He'd run around a bunch back there.

Okay. Host of That's Incredible. I didn't know that. Also a guy named Fran. Oh yeah. Bob Greasy, 80. What's he? He's quarter, dolphins?

He went undefeated, Blake. Yeah. He has some Brian played with the Broncos. Rapper Sean Kingston, 35. Don't really know, but does the whole Jamaican thing. I think he's related to Phillip. I think you're right. Isla Fisher is 49 yep perfect yeah yeah

pretty great I think she's married she's still married to Borat yeah oh really divorced oh can you know my wife can you follow up Borat would you be able to be married to the lady that was married to Borat yeah I think you just able to be married to the lady that was married to Borat? Yeah, I think you just have to be boring. Isn't she probably tired of the bits? Like there's just constant bits? Oh my god, all the time. It's Borat. Did you know how embarrassed you'd be if you accidentally did a My Wife in front of her? Like just cucking yourself?

Oh yeah. She's like, just don't, hon. Just don't, hon. Just don't. Tim Heidecker, 48. Greatness, Hurtys and Asshole. From lots of people. That's too bad.

I kind of see it though. Yeah. I went and saw his show. At the somewhere, some Dallas theater. Texas theater? Amal Amal Clooney, 46. at the somewhere some Dallas theater Texas theater am all amyl Clooney 46 And

Elizabeth Holmes is 41 Is she actually hot or is she just No, Steve Jobs hot scammed hot Steve Jobs used to be hot Uh yeah, she's powerful hot That she's convincing like I don't know She's convincing billionaires this is not even just billionaires. It was like military people Put on eyes like ladies, bro. That's true.

Born on this day now dead, Henry Heimlich. I met his daughter. What? That's the truth. Really? That's where that drop came from. I met his daughter. Really?

Yes. Why? When I was doing news, I got to go on a trip to Bosnia and she was a bunch of Texas reporters and she was a reporter for an NPR station in Austin. Wow. So yes it's the absolute truth. What other what other war-torn conflict ridden in... That was only Blades. Okay.

Spent some time in Sarajevo. Damn. Did you see any action? No, it was after they'd cooled everything down a little bit. We did have to wear bulletproof vests and helmets. Did you wear like a bulletproof cup? I'd be worried about that getting shot is that the closest you felt to being like in Star Wars somehow yeah because it was

camo and you know kind of indoor you know for the stealth thing yeah now that you say that yeah was Jodie thereodie there? No. Fuck him. We'll get to that in a moment. Born in the state now dead, Kerry Von Erich. Wow, also Ty. That's why I brought it up. Is that, what is that from? We're looking at a, damn.

A video of Kerry Von Erich. The modern day warrior. Bo Biden. Mmm. That hurts, dude. He wouldn't have let any of this happen. And Gavin Escobar. Oh. I forgot he was not alive.

Till I was rolling through his pro football reference page this morning. Was that the thing where he was like rock climbing he died with some lady that was not his wife Yeah, but she was like it wasn't Yeah, you're right it wasn't it people do that though right the people the crossfit people the rock climb people I don't know okay. I don't think I could get away with it. Hey, I'm cool. Yeah. It's whatever. I don't care what you do.

Like, I literally was thinking this weekend, it'd be so great if my wife was cheating on me. I mean, you could probably try to nudge it that direction. I wonder how. Maybe like if she had a... so ladies like ski instructors and that kind of guy right? Yeah. The problem is every time because every year she will call for maintenance on the riding lawnmower and they have to come pick it up and then do some work on it. That guy's like 80. That comes every year.

Like she needs the CrossFit looking, crunchy guy, ski instructor to be a guy who repairs that riding lawnmower and then they would run off together. It'd be great. The easiest way to get this done is to just get a personal yoga coach. She doesn't need to run off with them. Just that could just settle that area of her needs. Because I don't, I just don't feel like contributing to it. It's not even that you don't think you can do it. It's that you don't feel like trying. Right. I got a lot going on, man. This whole Luca thing.

I hear you. I hear you. Dead on this day still dead Al Lewis who was Grandpa Munster. You're on the chicken. And Les Levine. Damn bless up. Pour one out. Cleveland radio legend. What a guy. Who's not alive anymore. Came to our show though. He did. Came on our show. And that was Today in History. Franco and Franco brings us closing remarks.

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help out and they wanted to bring some reporters over there from Texas to see how things were going and they called where I was working and I got put on the plane. Where was that? The Texas State Network, which was, Carol D. was part of that. That feels like, it feels cool, but also knowing that that was kind of early in your career. Yeah. That must be drawing the short straw like, oh no. Like I didn't, I don't go there. Yeah, I think I was, yeah, I was still kind of low on the totem pole. So I was the first person they asked. I was like, yeah, okay, sure. Why not?

Was it fun? It was, it was tedious because it was two weeks, it was a week to get there basically, and then a week of kind of jumping through hoops because you're dealing with the military and it was a lot of hurry up and wait. But it was, I'm glad I did it because it was very interesting to be there and see it. Breaking any stories? No, nothing really broke while we were there. What was interesting? You know, just getting to go into Sarajevo and the whole, like I said, they suited us up like we were in the military.

Helmets, bulletproof vests, drove down the middle of Main Street of Sarajevo, and about half of it was all the buildings were bombed and yeah I mean you're like less than a year removed from yeah it was pretty major destruction okay well I'm you're at to fill in a guy like me about that I'm not exactly sure nobody really cared about this one I know Bosnia 90s thing well I don't know I wasn't here but they took us up on the mountain.

One of the mountains where they, uh, when the 84 winter Olympics was in Sarajevo and a lot of the stuff was still there, like the bobsled, uh, and a couple other things like ski jumps and stuff in the bobsled where they would, uh, you know, they had the curves, you know, they go around and we're still there, the concrete and they told us you could see holes poke through. That's where they used it as like bunkers. That's where they put their machine guns through. That is so paintball-itter.

Yeah. That is, that is awesome. So yeah, you never knew. I was a military hero, Dan. So is that when you worked with Jody Dean? Yes, he was at KRLD at the time. And you were not a fan? No. Why is that? Well I was

fortunate because working at TSN we worked in... I'm trying to tell my story here. We worked at the same place and I, fortunately he was at KRLD. I was at TSN. We worked in the same newsroom, worked in the same studios, but I had very little hardcore interaction with him. I saw the way he treated a lot of people.

And, but it, is it not the case that you have since buried that he's grown? It's no, he's grown? No. He's got a beard now? He has a beard. I think he works at Medieval Times now. I think I saw. That actually sounds awesome. He interacts with me sometimes on Twitter and he's really cool.

Quite a bit. You know what? He seems like a good guy. I think he's changed. By all accounts, he has hopefully changed. I feel like he's Kyrie. He knows, oh yeah, I did some't say that hear that and his egos already big enough I need to hear that well Kyrie's ego is big as well, but you know sometimes great people

I do hope I do hope that getting older and wiser that that he has changed, but yeah I just know what I saw hell. Yeah, look at this guy when I when I left the ticket, and I was made aware that he had put out a tweet, and he was like, you know, losing radio professionals like Ty Walker from the ticket is a bad thing for our scene. I'd like to tell him that, but I know he thinks I'm an asshole. And you're like, yep.

And I'm like, I do. Boy, I'm glad you got that. Well, you've been pretty open about it. That's true. Yeah. No, I do hope he's changed. So did he bomb Sarajevo? Yeah, why did Jody Dean bomb Sarajevo?

You're combining stories here. He had nothing to do with Sarajevo. Was there any chicks traveling with you? Heimlich's daughter. There were a couple other... Have you heard about the... The Hooters calendar and Ty? Who hasn't heard that story, Dan? The Hooters calendar and Ty? Who hasn't heard that story Dan?

Many years ago, Ty was on the air telling us that he was dating a girl who was upset that he had a Hooters calendar like on his kitchen table or whatever. Like she thought that was smut. Yeah, that was pornography. Yeah, and he's like, God, I don't think I can be with this if she ever saw my sir Well, if she does just seen all the shit I'd hid in the closet before she got there She thought that was nothing. Yeah, your last girlfriend the blow-up doll. Yeah the blow My blow-up don't a variety of Yeah, so yeah, she was not the one for me. Well, this has been fun.

Yeah. It has been fun. Alright. Adios, mofo. We gotta go before this becomes a zoo. Thank you for watching my video. Subscribe and type for my name if you want to watch more of my videos. I'm just so fucking sad We just traded away Devin Booker's dad This is the worst trade in NBA history The biggest sports mystery

I swear we better find out who set this up The entire city is mad as fuck and ready to erupt Something doesn't smell right, smells corrupt trading him to the Lakers to get the ratings up Oh Nico Harrison, what have you done? You traded away Dallas Hills only begotten son Oh Nico Harrison, what did you just do? There's Lee Harvey Oswald and now you You just traded away a once in a lifetime player

Can we stop this trade? Somebody get the Dallas mayor This is ridiculous, please tell me it's a joke The entire city in shock on Sunday when they woke You just traded the most untradable star That it's someone fine, Nico, we're towing his car Let's grab him, kidnap him in his dumb little suit We'll tie him up and we're towing his car. Let's grab him kidnap him in his dumb little suit We'll tie him up and we're not leaving until we get the truth Only begotten son, oh Nico Harrison What did you just do? There's Lee Harvey Oswald and now you Now you

C-mark Cuban, this is what happens when you sell to Vegas When you were the owner, you would have never made this Type of trade because you cared about the city These sands of bitches only care about money, it's shitty And poor Luca gave Dallas his heart and soul We all have been there to watch that kid grow Now he's traded to the Lakers, great more lake shows and we get Anthony Davis aka street clothes Oh Nico Harrison what have you done?

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