The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 2-6-25: Nico Harrison had to do this move behind fans' backs and Jeremy Piven helps us forget about Luka
Episode Date: February 6, 2025Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneIt's been 5 days and we can't stop thinking about him... It's like a bad break up we can't move pas...t. Nico did this behind our backs because he knew we'd try and stop it. Bring back our Luka. But Jeremy Piven helps cheer us up by promoting his upcoming appearance at Arlington Improv and we have the Big Thursday Viewer Mail Bag thing (00:00) - Open: Jake vs. his wife. Best 2 of 3 (21:08) - Jeremy Piven live in-studio (01:12:03) - Luka: Nico knew he had to do this behind fans' backs (01:53:08) - Big Thursday Viewer Mail Bag (02:22:25) - News: Shell shocked over egg prices (02:26:02) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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Yeah.
You got to work me up.
I was going to say, I can't just.
Ha ha ha.
That was very awkward.
I mean, if you've been.
I mean, you're Jeremy Pippen.
I can get there.
It's just not, you know.
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Kept thinking it was Tuesday.
Like I was trying to count the days and in my head I'm calling this AL.
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Just where your life changed.
I like it.
I like it.
Life changed for the worse.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, anyway, we are broadcasting live to tape from our downtown Dallas DZ studios at
the Fox 4 building.
You could join us on DZTV studios, I should say.
Join us on DZTV tonight and every weeknight on channel 27. More 27.
Mass. Which is what people have been saying every time they turn on channel
27. They just yell it? They just say I need more of this. I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake
Kemp. I'm Blake Jones. And along with Clayton who does not have a micro as a microphone
stand and then there's just like a wire hanging from it. Are you proud? He can
project like a classically trained actor. We have one of those rolling in at some
point. We're actually live streaming today too. Most people
don't know that but if you're tuned in. Hey what's up YouTube. We're
starting exceptionally early today because well here's Blake. We're gonna
have Jeremy Piven in studio at some point. He's doing the 10 right now with Steve
Novello, our good good friend, and whenever he's done with him and Hannah
Bataa, he will walk on over here.
Think he'll fire anybody in the hallway?
Yell at them, knock their lunch out of their hands while holding a cell phone?
I hope so.
Yeah, apparently he's a comedian now. Yeah. Doing stand-up and so we're gonna help him promote that and but so the reason was you said let's do
the show early since he's going to be at Fox 4 anyway. This is your yeah your
brainchild. I figured to make us wake up this early. I figured Jeremy Piven in
person is better than on the phone or not at all. I would agree
I'm not going with Dan's bit his narrative here what I'm not doing a narrative and this is the guy that says hey if we
Want to do mornings, let's do mornings. I know I'll get up and I'll you look sleepy though
Always look this way. No doesn't feel like a compliment. No, Blake looks like he's kinda run down.
You all right, brother?
I'm not morning guy, but I'm here and ready to go.
Were you up late?
No.
What's your regular bedtime nowadays?
I mean, it was like midnight, 1 a.m. guy,
but now I'm closer to 10 or 11.
Oh, wow.
It's creeping up. Look at this, run the ball guy, go a.m. guy, but now I'm closer to 10 or 11. Oh wow. It's creeping up.
Look at this, run the ball guy, go to bed early.
Dude, I stayed up until 10 last night to watch PCU again,
and that's the latest I've been up on a weeknight
in a long time.
Well, I might be the late, late guy here.
You are.
You get up at, I go to bed by nine most nights.
I mean, I'm 11, 11, 30.
I'm sure Clayton's.
Even earlier?
I don't know if Clayton even sleeps.
One a.m.
One a.m., yeah.
One a.m., Clayton, yeah.
Fall asleep with a Lucy in his mouth.
Boy, I had a trippy wake up this morning
because I wake up to the musers
because I'm trying to not have my phone in my bedroom
because otherwise I'll just scroll until midnight
and you're not supposed to look at a screen
before going to bed.
Smart.
And so I keep the phone in the kitchen on the charger
and so I have a clock radio next to me.
And the mute.
Run the ball.
I know I'm getting there.
I'm really, really getting there.
What do you want to go call Fox for
and tell them how many inches of rain we got later?
Oh boy, my rain gauge said a 3.3.
He does have a rain gauge.
3.3 of an inch.
Of course he does.
Anyway, and so yeah, the Musers were on this morning.
They're from, they're live in New Orleans
and what I woke up to was Jacob Dedmore saying,
well, I've got to text out to Killer,
we're trying to reach the Musers,
and I just woke up in a sweat of,
oh no, the remote dropped.
And then it's on the producer,
somehow filled a few minutes.
He's just like, he's a nom vet.
Normally I'm snooze, snooze, snooze, snooze,
but when I heard that,
trying to reach the broadcast, shoot.
How many times has Blake just been
panic Blake over that?
It's a good bit though for ratings I always think.
You're not gonna tune out at that point.
You're gonna be like, oh man.
Yeah, are they gonna fit?
It might have took me one time before I realized,
okay, here's what I do here, content.
Yeah.
But it seemed that everyone around me was,
let's go to break.
I'm like, fuck man.
Yeah, and then they wouldn't jump on the mic and say that.
They would just hit the break.
Yeah, that might have happened to me once or twice
during the top 10 when I was solo.
But after that, I'm like, fuck,
it's time for the TC and Jake show right now.
I gotta tell you guys about a couple things
before we get into Jeremy Piven, whenever he gets here.
Couple quick ones from my day yesterday,
business Tuesday, went to the chiropractor.
Business Wednesday.
Business Wednesday, went to the chiropractor.
They have a little roller table
that you can lay on beforehand, very nice, 10 minutes.
And I just thought I'd share with you some small talk
as a lady laid down on the roller table next to me
and strikes up a conversation about the weather.
Oh, I thought you were gonna say it was Luca talk.
No, this was a reprieve from that.
Okay.
And the, it's raining.
I thought it was gonna rain more.
It's a little warm.
I'm with her, man.
Yeah, what is it?
I didn't think it would get this warm.
Just so, it was like 50 and then now it's 70, 80?
I heard this, what you guys are free to use today,
show, parties, whatever.
She said, I always say meteorologist in Texas
is the only job where you can always be wrong
and keep your job.
Hell yeah.
Run the ball guy loves that one.
Oh, that was interesting.
Another update for you. Did you tell her? Did you give her the stock answer? Run the ball guy loves that one. Oh, that was interesting.
Another update for you.
Did you tell her?
Did you give her the stock answer?
About the weather?
Wait a few minutes.
Hey, it'll change.
I was leaving the, it was kind of her moment.
OK.
You know what I mean?
She was crushing.
She was crushing.
Yeah.
Yesterday afternoon, I went to the bank with my wife because we were
opening another checking account that we're like both on. We don't want to use
a credit card anymore. Okay so famously Jake and his wife have separate accounts
and they will Venmo each other. It's far overstated but yes. For what seemed to be
common purchases in a marriage but you
end up Venmo-ing your wife for half of the thing. Yeah now again the reality is
90% of our purchases take place on a credit card that we both pay on and then
we just have our own checking account so we can buy whatever we want with and
yeah like it when it's mortgage time I will send her money, whatever.
But we wanted a joint checking account
so we're not using a credit card anymore post remodel.
So we're driving there yesterday
and it's four o'clock, I'm like, fuck, this is,
and even my new found peace, my happiness,
my clarity of life,
I was like, I'm dreading this.
There's nothing worse I hate
than having to sit down across from somebody
who is performing a role
that does not need to really exist for,
like if you're helping a company set up banking, maybe.
We needed the most straightforward checking account
that they offer.
And then do they offer you seven different options?
Of course they do.
And they told me beforehand, they were like,
you need to budget for an hour.
And I was like, Jesus Christ,
there's no way this should take that long.
I bought, you can buy-
That's some expensive land on Business Wednesday,
getting an hour out of Jake.
I know, and you can buy really large things
with a DocuSign.
So in my head, I'm like, why do I even have to go in here
and sign this stuff in person?
And the lady does what she does.
First of all, it takes her, every time she's turning
the signature thing around, she's explaining that process.
All right, this one's for Jacob.
It's gonna ask for your signature. Oh, my pen doesn't.
That thing's a little funny.
Yeah, how about this?
I'll just sign everything you tell me.
Right now, up front.
Don't explain it.
Yeah, and then it's, hey, what are your financial goals?
So how quick could this have been if this was run in the world of the Bank of Jake?
Ten minutes.
And there's a lot of talk, but she's, she's.
You should even be able to.
How old are your kids?
You should be able to give them that option and say, look,
I can explain every sheet here, or you can say,
I trust you as my banker.
You can click Fast Pass.
Yeah, Fast Pass.
And I will just tell you sign, sign, sign, sign.
Which one do you want?
Because I have all the info, but I also realize
that perhaps, you know, you're 35 or whatever you are
and you've been through this, you know the drill, like okay.
Yes, that could have happened, but it didn't.
So I've told my wife going in, I'm like, I hate this.
Well, my wife loves the explanation.
This is one of the few things that I can't stand.
And my wife's like, yeah, it sucks.
I deal with this a lot in business.
It's just, it is what it is.
So she's prepped for the idea that I'm not
too thrilled about this.
So we get in there, and at first, we're just
kind of trying to play the silent game.
Maybe if we don't talk, she won't talk.
Well, that's not working, because now, do you
have a savings account for your kids?
What are your financial goals?
Jacob, what do you do?
Oh no, that's the worst of it.
Kind of like media production type thing.
And that shut it off.
I was like, that's good, there was no follow-up.
But there was a lot of talk going on,
and we weren't really able to stop it.
So we started having conversations about like,
hey, who's gonna pick up who tomorrow?
Do we need to do this?
Like, what are we doing on this?
The house, this and that.
The ladies now just interjecting in our conversation.
It's like, look, if we're gonna be here,
we might as well knock out some conversations
we're gonna have, but don't need you.
She's hopping in.
I'm getting even more pissed.
And now it's time for, hey,
we're gonna give you guys new cards.
And Kristen was like, you know, it'd probably be a good idea
if we got a different looking card
than our regular checking accounts.
Like I have a red card, she has a red card.
And the lady's like, oh yeah, we have lots of options,
lots of cool designs.
And here they are.
And she turns the screen around, and she's like,
see, you can do all sorts of stuff up here on the cards.
And at this point, well, I'll just tell you what happened.
My wife goes, oh, they have sports teams?
She goes, do you have a Mavs one?
He loves the Mavs.
Oh.
And I look out and I'm like, you bitch.
Like, is she trying to hurt you?
Yes.
She knew what she was doing, right?
She's barely able to get it out without laughing. She goes, he loves the Mavs.
And I realized in that moment,
I hadn't thought about Luca for like 41 minutes.
Well, yeah, there was a silver lining
of dealing with that lady.
Yes, I was away from it, and I like look over at her,
and she's like, yeah, do you have, he loves him.
He loves him.
And the lady goes, oh yeah, we do, yeah, we do.
And he's like, she says something like, oh, he's having a tough time with them right now. And she goes, oh yeah we do, yeah we do. And she says something like,
oh he's having a tough time with them right now.
And she goes, oh I know,
seems like they've been bad forever.
I always hear about how they've been bad forever.
Do you know if they're gonna get good again?
Did you leave?
Did you just walk out?
I didn't say a word.
And Kristen at this point can't look at me.
She's just there.
She's having fun. She's staring away and when can't look at me. She's just staring away.
And when she looks over at me she goes,
yeah, Jake, are they gonna get better?
And I'm like, this is the worst thing
you've ever done to me.
Were you like, you know, actually,
they might be better positioned to win
in the next two years.
Defensive rebounding, we're a real,
I mean Celtics are gonna isolate Luca, you know?
Yeah.
I was so pissed off, dude.
Boy, that's great.
She was just doing her own little show over there.
And I have a couple more quick ones for you.
This morning somebody was coming to paint
the door to the house.
And it was like eight o'clock in the morning,
I had just taken a shower and I
had pants on regular khaki pants but I had no shirt on that is so hot and you
answered the door I didn't answer the door time to get the shirt but I don't
I don't I'm just out of time I still had to go like make his who puts on their
long pants before their shirt well I, I always do. You guys do?
No, I'm typically shirt first.
I'll go shirt first.
I try to really minimize the amount of time
that I have a shirt on and just underwear.
But just being in pants without a shirt feels just weird.
Yeah, don't you?
I think guns hanging over your pants.
I think the inverse is way more true.
Like if you have a shirt on and underwear only
or no underwear, that is like,
that feels to me like you're-
Shirt and underwear is fine.
It's like a bathing suit.
No, that feels like you're lining up
for a glory hole to me.
Like you ever get frustrated when a guy keeps a shirt on
in a porno, you're like, come on, what are you doing?
That's weird behavior.
No.
I have never been frustrated that the guy isn't naked.
Well, do you keep your shirt on?
Whatever happened to CM?
No, it's cloth female, naked female.
Yeah, it would be CFNM.
Yeah.
Which is fine.
Yeah, but the fact.
The point is, I've never watched a porno going,
man, I wish that guy had less clothes.
I do, because I want it to feel real. I wish that guy had less clothes. I do because I wanted to feel real
Sure wishes wiener looked better
No, I'll go shirt because I don't want to look like a muffin with like these tight pants
Yeah, yeah skin spilling out of the top
I'd rather have shirt and you can look at my hairy legs if you want
But it was just a matter of I threw the pants on and I still had to make him like breakfasts
Which could get I don't get peanut butter and stuff on me not the guy who is painting the door It was just a matter of I threw the pants on and I still had to make him breakfast,
which could get, I don't want to get peanut butter
and stuff on me.
Not the guy who was painting the door,
you didn't have to make him breakfast.
Not yet.
But she comes in the bedroom and I'm walking out
and she goes, oh, the painters are here.
You probably want to put a shirt on.
And I look at her and I'm like,
is it your feeling that Hector will be so taken
by my body that he just can't work?
Like he's just too horny?
I feel like her feeling is just,
you're a decent member of society.
You're in my house!
Yeah, but you still just don't walk around
with long pants and no shirt.
Okay, so is it the pants that's bothering you?
Yeah, shorts and a shirt and no shirt is okay.
That's less clothes.
It's still, it's just long pants don't go with no shirt.
Shorts go with no shirt.
You've commonly seen dudes with...
Yeah, sure.
But if you see a guy with no jeans and no shirt...
In society, very unstable.
They're probably really strung out.
Yeah, but not in my house. Well, still So yeah I guess maybe she just thought. Would you walk out in a towel or
would you just throw something on? She's just trying to outside the house. Make you be a
normal human. Outside the house it would be weird. I'm gonna have to side with her on this. I'm
against her on the whole Luca card bullshit. So what's the third, who wins the full battle?
Do you have a third thing with you and Kristen?
Last night, so in our home, or it's part of our remodel,
there's a huge, it's not even close to done on the outside.
There's a huge, huge mound of dirt.
And it's pretty close to the street.
And we, a lot of people walk on our street,
not a busy street, but it is for a residential street.
Fairly-
Does the boy like to go run in it and play in it?
Loves it.
Yeah.
Like I don't want him to go away.
There would be no better gift on Christmas morning
if he's had a giant-
And every time he sees it, it looks like Christmas
because he just gets out the car
and just runs face first into it.
I like, love the vigor you're approaching with, and Vim.
So it's on the street, and last night,
the kids actually stayed at my mom's,
and we were working on the garage.
Ooh, that's a euphemism.
Hell yeah.
Oiled up her garage.
Yeah. And I had gone back inside and she comes in and she's
like, these kids! Damn kids! What are you on about? Neighborhood hooligans? What are you on about? And
she's like, well I'm in the garage and I look over and I can see a you know a couple a couple like teenagers and
she's like and they're just jumping on the dirt and I'm like yeah and she's
like well I yelled at him why you did what she's like well I looked over I
didn't know what they were doing I couldn't tell exactly how old they are I
just saw three males kind of in our yard and I yelled at him. I'm like, well, what did you yell? And she says, you know, I said, hey, hey, off our property.
I'm like, what?
She goes, well, I don't know what they were doing.
My wife would do that exactly same thing.
And I'm like, let's play this out.
What's the worst thing they were doing?
Stealing the dirt?
Yeah, how much of that are they going to ruin?
Did they bring a little pail to make a sand castle
that they're gonna fill up one by one
Like what's the worst thing that can happen? She's like well, I don't know
I didn't know what they were doing now now you're a possible target for an egging or a so what no
But I'm just saying you weren't before
Yeah, yeah now now you are a target a potential target
If this bitch if they want to do some toilet papering or egging or something, yeah, now. Now you are a target, a potential target. Go get this bitch.
If they want to do some toilet papering
or egging or something.
Yeah.
They will choose your house.
In fact, that's not a bad idea.
Maybe just to scratch the itch, I do it this weekend.
When I wake up, I'm like, I don't know.
Probably shouldn't be ruffling feathers.
How come they egg just my car and not yours?
Mine's like freshly washed. I'm like, it looks like they respect me. They've just my car and not yours? Mine's like freshly washed.
I'm like, it looks like they respect me.
They washed my car.
Yeah, that's a.
So it sounds like you're with me on this one.
That sounds like neighborhood lady thing.
Oh my God, to watch it happen.
Nextdoor.com or whatever the app.
Just the morph of her into this.
I've seen that happen to my wife too, man.
It's crazy.
It happens to all of them
Speaking of wives so a feeling I so just a tough week al
Hmm looks like we're a tough life. We're headed into guest time here, baby
Okay, yeah bring him on in you want to read
Well I do want to tell you about this well
I'll tell you about the wife thing when Jeremy walks in.
OK.
Because I think it's a good thing.
Do we have a read?
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Hello sir.
How's it going?
Oh, better now I think.
Let's fire up that microphone.
How about now?
Can you please pretend that you were just seeing us again
and say, how's it going again?
How's it going?
Oh, there he is, the great Jeremy Piven.
All right.
Yeah.
He flies alone.
I expected a-
Yeah, where's the-
A, well-
Don't say the word.
I wasn't gonna.
A bunch of people that hang around with you and-
Yes.
There is no entourage.
Eagles soar alone.
I like to speak in cliches, gentlemen.
That's fine with us.
Yeah, that's fine with us.
Yeah.
But I.
Any way to get any sound in these fantastic cans?
Otherwise it's just a prop.
Yeah.
It looks good.
We're kind of a upstart flyby.
We don't know what the fuck we're doing.
That's what I'm telling you.
I'm so happy to be here, man.
We're just kind of figuring this out.
Cause time's not valuable.
No, so.
Oh wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
I had it wrong.
I'm sorry.
All we have is time, gentlemen.
That's all we have.
There we go.
This works.
All right.
So lots to talk about.
Rewatch PCU last night. That was a go, this works. All right. So lots to talk about. Re-watched PCU last night, that was a favorite of course. I'm 39, that was right in my wheelhouse.
That was, it feels like it was on Comedy Central every day for a certain period
of time and now curiously not that easily accessible in streaming services.
Yeah, it's not interesting. It just kind of disappeared. It was, I think, before it's time.
You had a group of people protesting saying,
we're not gonna protest.
It was ahead of its time.
Yeah, it's interesting.
It definitely had a cultural impact, for sure.
But I do, like, do you have a theory
on why it's not out there?
Was it out there on streaming services before?
And then it, it's not a me too thing, is it?
You know, it is, that's an interesting question.
I would say, I think we could spend a lot of time
theorizing about stuff that doesn't work out
the way we might see it,
or doesn't make sense, but I don't know
if that's beneficial to us.
I think it's a huge waste of time.
Sure, I've listened to you talk.
Like man talking.
No, no, I've listened to you talk a lot in the last day,
and have a profound appreciation
for the way you approach life.
Yeah, I mean.
Getting up in the morning and.
Yeah, I might brace you,
I'm gonna just speak the truth as I know it. My mom passed away last week. Yeah. Getting up in the morning and. Yeah, I might brace you. I'm gonna just speak the truth as I know it.
My mom passed away last week.
Oh.
Yeah, so what you're gonna get from me is,
no, it's all good.
What you're gonna get from me is just the truth
and no fear and nothing to hide and here we are.
That's it, you bring up your mom. I heard you talking to Burt about the performance, and you know, nothing to hide, and here we are. Right?
That's it, you bring up your mom.
I heard you talking to Bert about the performance,
the movie you got, seemingly, seems like it was
all your baby, and you star in it,
and it was based on an Arthur Miller short story
in The New Yorker that your mom gave to you
when you were a kid.
This is a sports show, right?
No, we do.
So we used to work at a...
Cause that was just the sound of people going, ugh.
No, no.
We've got to find some.
I need some Baker Mayfield news.
He'll give you that.
He's got a jersey over there.
I love Baker.
We love Baker, by the way.
All right.
We do?
Yeah, I love him.
OK.
He's one of the real ones.
What's your connection with Baker?
God, that's a great question.
Doing Entourage and Wahlberg is infatuated with him.
I don't know how I got on his radar.
I was somehow in Cleveland doing shows.
I'm touring, doing standup tomorrow night
at Arlington Improv Friday and Saturday night.
That's why I'm here.
And I was in Cleveland and just connected with Baker
is when he was playing for them.
And he's one of these guys who like, you know, came out to the show, he shows up, you know,
he's not one of these guys that says, I'll be there and doesn't he shows up.
Listen, man, if you look at that guy's career, he got traded in the middle of the night to
the Rams showed up.
He's got a photographic memory.
It's documented, learn the entire play sheet and went out there and won the game, you know, after being
with the organization for about 11 minutes.
And everyone's counted him out and he's a stud and he deserves his flowers.
That's one man talking.
That's a good synopsis of Baker right there though.
There you go.
We're big fans.
Yeah. He's big fans. Yeah.
He's hard to not like.
But you know what?
He's a very confident, successful white dude.
And you know what I mean?
And you know, that hasn't been the fashion.
That has not been the fashion.
See how quiet it just got here?
Well, no, I was gonna say,
I feel like we've kinda turned a corner on that a little bit.
I think so with the new administration
Well, you could say before that it yeah, you can say you can do you can just say whatever you want now
You can I'm gonna drop the n-word like 11 times during this interview. Yeah, no, I but you know
It's a tease that ahead for the Arlington improv if people want to go see
Well, if they if they're a fan of laughter, yeah, or the n-word
Yeah, that's what I'm saying tease the n the N word, could be said, might not be.
Why don't you buy tickets and find out?
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
It's always the guys, I grew up,
I was the only white boy on my football team.
I'm an undersized Jewish football player,
not unlike our boy Julian Edelman.
Ooh, got a hero.
Yeah. You a hero.
Yeah.
You gotta have one.
You know, the only difference between the two of us
is I'm not an elite athlete.
Other than that, we are identical.
So you mentioned, but the new administration thing,
the shift to culture, I don't think, like,
Ari pops while Trump is president.
I think it was kind of in a, people liked it
because secretly they're like, yeah, you know what? It is kind of in a, people liked it because secretly
they're like, yeah you know what it is kind of weird I can't say gay. I think, you
know, for me personally I have somewhat maybe progressive policy beliefs about
healthcare, things like that, but I also don't really want to police language. I
don't think Ari takes hold like that if Trump's up there just being rude to
everybody. Um, you know that's that's interesting that maybe you know something about pop culture that I don't.
I think that, you know, it was kind of the forbidden fruit probably during the woke times,
you know, seeing someone that was an equal opportunity offender that would just crush
anyone.
I think, yeah, they were gravitating towards that.
I've got a whole new group of fans,
like guys in their late teens and early twenties
during the pandemic that binged it
and they're just screaming Ari.
And, you know, I think if the HBO and HBO Max knew that,
if they knew that we already have this fan base
and now we have this whole new demographic they would probably want to reboot in the way that
it's hard to find hits you know it really is and they're trying you know
they rebooted everything from full house fuller the full extension of the house
what's the one with Kathy Bates? Is she Matlock?
It's hard to say what's going on right now.
It's hard to say.
There's a new Matlock?
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
But she's an old lady.
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of stuff happening out there.
And I think, you know, the-
Murder she wrote was right on the plate.
Yeah.
And they went to Matlock instead, so.
Yeah, why not?
Why not?
But I think that, I think because the show was just funny
and it, and you know, it's funny,
I've been on stage since I was a child
and you know, was 40 movies into a career
before Entourage even started.
So I was ready, like my mom says,
the readiness is all, she quotes Shakespeare. I think you know, when Baker got traded, he was one of these guys who was ready, like my mom says, the readiness is all. She quotes Shakespeare.
I think when Baker got traded, he was one of these guys
who was like, he was ready to go.
You throw the playbook in front of him and he crushed it.
I think it's our job to be ready and stay ready.
So I think if they were to reboot something like Entourage,
I'm ready to go.
And I think people are very hungry and curious
about the backstage life of any lane, really.
I mean, you could have guys representing athletes.
They could be representing musicians,
but I think it would be, yeah, I mean, Trump, you know,
he's, it's his second term, and they're going in hot.
Elon Musk, you know, they're just,
they're hitting the ground running.
Yeah.
Ari Emanuel that my character was based on, you know,
is part of a group that purchased not only the UFC,
but the WWE and I think it's incredibly relevant.
I definitely think it would work today,
but I think it would work today
because it took hold then, but it's a great show regardless.
Do you wanna put that picture up there real quick Clayton?
So you've been in, as you said,
40 movies before Entourage, just grinding.
I forgot you fixed Chrissy's wound after the shootout.
Oh yeah, in Heat.
Is that your favorite movie?
It's my favorite movie of all time
and he's Dr. Bob, the off the books doctor
that the criminals have to go to
because they can't go to the real ER.
It's incredible.
Like, you've done a million things, man.
Do those exist?
Do they really exist?
Yeah, did you method act on that?
I can tell you just a little peek into the life of an actor
if you guys think it's glamorous.
The reality is I'll never forget the audition for Heat.
I'm sitting there and basically the only way to work
as an actor is to beat out every single guy
that's up for that role.
And so you come and you, for me,
I have to be completely off book.
I can't have a script in my hand.
I have to walk in there and make it undeniable,
otherwise there's no way to work.
You know what I mean?
So I'm ready to go.
I got my, you know, a couple lines of Dr. Bob.
I'm just running them, running them.
First hour goes by and I'm just thinking,
okay, just stick it out, baby, you got this.
If you can do this, you get to work with De Niro. Like, you know, I'm just thinking, okay, just stick it out, baby. You got this. If you can do this, you get to work with DeNiro.
Like, you know, I'm a kid.
So second hour goes by and you start to,
that's when you start, you know,
it's almost like the mushrooms take hold.
Everything starts, you know, like melting.
You know what I mean?
And then hour three, and I'm not making this up,
the third hour is whenever, that's when people crack. That's when they get up and leave.
One of the guys, this is a true story,
I can't say his name, but picked up the casting assistant,
put him up against the wall and started screaming.
At that moment, they walk out and they're ready to see,
and that did not go well for that particular actor.
You know what I mean?
Baker wouldn't do that.
No, he wouldn't, he would keep his cool.
That's the whole thing.
You gotta always remain calm, because of the other side of that is glory
because I held on to it for three hours. I walked in there, did my thing.
Michael Mann, the director is from Chicago. He's got a hardcore Chicago accent.
He looked at me, goes, that was good. Do that again. One more time.
Dr. Bob, let's go do it a couple, two, three times.
It's a hardcore Chicago accent.
And I did it and it worked out.
And in the movie, you know, when he says,
you know, give me your shirt, give me your shirt.
And then they're supposed to cut.
It's the end of the scene.
And you know, that's the only way that I have a career
is I just keep talking.
And I just go, my daughter gave me that shirt.
He goes, fuck you.
That's a, it's wow.
I'm getting chills.
Fuck you.
I'm getting chills.
How's De Niro?
That's how De Niro improvises.
Fuck you.
So you threw a little, uh, Oh, I threw improv in there and bro, I've been waiting
my entire life for that moment.
So you have to understand, I started second city with Chris Farley in the
nineties, so I've been, I was ready for that moment.
Yes, of course I was terrified, it's De Niro,
but I'm also like, you gotta be ready.
You know, you can't kiss the ring,
you gotta give them all you got.
So I got a little De Niro moment,
and 116 movies later, I'm playing the Rusty Chunk of Bucket
in Arlington for $11, and here we are.
The Addison Improv.
We're living the dream.
The Addison Improv. Yeah. Tomorrow night, Friday night. Arlington Improv. Did I say? You the Addison Improv. We're living the dream. The Addison Improv.
Yeah.
Bar night, Friday night.
Arlington Improv.
Did I say?
You said Addison.
Addison.
Seven times.
It says Addison on here.
Really, I'm at the Arlington Improv.
Don't go to the Addison.
Let's all come and meet me at the Arlington Improv.
What are you looking at?
The coffee points that Blake put in here, but it's okay.
Okay.
It's Addison, but the date's right.
Look, people know.
Do you know where you are? I thought it was Arlington. It is Arlington. Okay. It's Addison, but the date's right. Look, people know. Do you know where you are?
I thought it was Arlington.
It is Arlington.
Okay.
The Arlington Airport.
You know, it's one of those things
where you just keep going.
You're on the road and you keep going.
Arlington is, you know, without traffic from here,
it's about 30 minutes from Dallas?
Yeah. Something like that.
Okay.
Maybe not even in the evening.
Okay.
Maybe not even.
It's the middle of DFW, you know?
It's not FW.
It's not me.
You know, if they mention dumb zone,
let's give them some free meet and greets.
Okay, really?
Let's go hang out, we'll hang out,
we'll take some pictures, we'll hug it out.
You know, somebody's gonna do this.
We're not big, but we have rabid.
What am I doing here then I
thought you guys had yeah thousands of thousands we can take that we could take
that yeah I if we're gonna talk your career which I suppose we should some
but I believe I fell in love with you as far as a guy on my TV and the Larry
Sanders show that's's my love it.
Well, how so that was one of your first things or your first like, yeah, that
was, that was right out of college.
One of my first auditions.
And, uh, I, I remember I was doing that show was so good and, uh, I was so
lucky to be on it, but I'm a stage actor from Chicago, so I didn't, I couldn't
wrap my mind around the fact that I was a regular on a TV show.
So I was still living in a pool house.
I was like basically the pool boy while I was on the Larry Sanders show.
And Mark Hirschfeldt, who was casting Seinfeld, came up to me on the CBS lot and he goes,
you know, would you audition for Seinfeld?
I didn't, I had never seen Seinfeld
because I didn't have a TV.
So, you know, I'm a stage actor,
I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Audition, yeah, because we're just hungry,
we just grind.
So I went in and auditioned to play George on Seinfeld,
got the role, had never seen the show.
You know, it was the pilot within the show.
The fake show, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was well into the Seinfeld run.
Oh, they were the Beatles.
They were the Beatles, and I had no idea.
A parody of themselves, so that's why it's hard to believe
you had never even seen it.
I still, to this day.
Because that was a Thursday night staple.
No, no, I'm a weird dude, man.
I've never seen an episode of Friends in my life, ever.
Okay, sorry.
Are you okay, Blake?
I've never seen it. That hurts.
That really hurts. This is Mr. Friends right here.
That's amazing.
Yeah, but he thinks you're in Addison too,
so he doesn't know shit.
Okay, I just say a little copy and paste on my end.
Yeah.
Okay.
Think about all the years that you've watched Friends
and then how many more years I have.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
I say that with love.
Wouldn't you say though, then you would just respond that you've
got uh it's wonderful love the life he envies you because you get to go watch Friends for the first
time. Yeah that Jim is waiting for you. You know what I've never seen it so I it just you know I
guess being that generation of those guys and we all kind of went out to,
and we're struggling together, I just never thought of watching it.
I don't know how else to say it.
That's not me being rude.
I just, once you're not on the train,
and it's taken off, you can't then try to like,
be a dead head and get dirty and get on the bus.
Was it your idea to leave Larry Sanders show? I?
got PCU I got a lead in a movie and
That show was was brilliant
The Larry Sanders show and I said guys I I got offered this lead in this amazing film and
Shaling said go ahead. I fully support you. You're great, you're great.
And then they wrote me an amazing episode
where I got kicked off.
I thought it was hastily written off though,
only that there was no indication
that this was Jerry Preview.
I've watched the Larry Sanders Show a few times.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
But that episode, I wouldn't have been able to get
a meaty episode like that unless I was leaving.
It's all meant to be, man.
You just gotta embrace it and no regrets.
Yeah, no, you were great on it.
Thank you.
It was fun.
For me, it was like graduate school.
I just got, it was right out of college
and I get to just work with the greats and observe them
and it was a gift.
Were you able to improv there?
Yes, but that was one of those cases where
Shanley was such a rare beast in the way that he was
a brilliant stand-up comic and loved acting.
Jerry Seinfeld does not love acting or
actors he you know he's made that clear. You know I mean he's a stand-up to the
core and one of the best who ever lived but Chandlin was in love with the craft
and the process and all that so I was just lucky to be there and yes I could
throw my stuff in but you know that it was pretty tight tightly it was written
brilliantly. How about you as far as the craft and process of standup?
I love it.
I do at least a couple hundred shows a year.
And you guys come on out and see it.
It's like, you know, last night I was up at the improv
in Hollywood and I'm always up on sets with killers,
Nikki Glaser, you know, Tim Dillon, whoever.
So I'm thrown into the belly of the beast
and I love it because I can learn and grow
and just continuously get better.
And the reality is, yes, I'm a late bloomer to stand up.
I've only been touring for 10 years.
And to most standups are like, oh, you're a baby.
But the reality is like, I've been on stage my whole life.
I've been improvising and rewriting.
So all roads lead to stand up.
I take it very seriously and I love the process.
Is there resentment at all among the lifetime comics?
You know, it's not my business, but I am very motivated by, you know, I
remember hearing a comic as I'm getting up on stage going, anyone thinks they
could do stand-up. Right, yeah, yeah. Because you already have a built-in fame.
Right. Well, it's not even fame, it's just, listen, the reality is this.
If I sucked, you would know, everyone would know. And this is, they would, it would be so joyous
for standups to go see how difficult it is.
And by the way, it is.
And if I didn't do 200 shows a year,
I wouldn't be good at what I do, you know what I mean?
So I take it very seriously.
And so yeah, there is resentment
and I find it like it's just motivating to me.
Because it's like anything else in life,
the harder you work, the easier it looks.
You're the baker of standup comics.
Well, I'll take it.
I'll take that.
I'll take it.
It's the walk on who found glory.
Yeah, no, I mean, but it is, it's a very difficult thing.
Because you are, it's one thing to put out a movie
and if it sucks or critics hate you or whatever,
you're reading that at home.
You're standing on the stage, you're so alone.
Totally alone and by the way,
all those people paid,
because oh, I like this guy in
this or this I'm gonna go pay to see him but if you suck there it like I imagine they give you
about two or three minutes of leeway not even two minutes and then it's like okay I better be
laughing no and I don't care if I like the old school yeah exactly they'll give you whatever
comes out of your mouth from the jump right they'll They'll give you a courtesy giggle, no matter what it is.
And then you're on your own.
So it's, if you have to understand the audience now,
they're used to TikTok, they're used to like, they, you know,
they've watched these guys, they've seen the best
of the best, so you better crush it.
And I love the pressure,
because I love making people laugh.
And from that pressure, you get better.
You just get better because I'm not interested in mediocrity.
It's not interesting to me.
I was a viciously mediocre high school football player.
There are no five foot nine Jewish linebackers.
So I learned very early on how I wear that.
You know what I mean?
Like sitting, not getting all the playing time
that I wanted, it didn't work out well for me.
And I think when you experience failure early in life,
it's really healthy.
Because then I just went, oh no, no, this isn't right for me. And I'd been on stage my whole life, it's really healthy. Cause you know, then you, I just went, Oh no, no,
this isn't right for me.
And I w I'd been on stage my whole life, but
it's not sexy.
You know, when you're in high school and
you're on, you know, you're in theater, you
know what I mean?
And the guy that was all American wide
receiver and he was an absolute stud.
You only got a four year ride to Michigan and
you know, um, you don't want to peak too early,
you know, and he could have gone on.
Was he dead?
He's not dead, but you know, I think.
You've lapped him.
He parked your car last week.
He did a valet jog up to me, and I celebrated him
with the power of Christ, even though I'm Jewish.
No, he peaked too early, you don't want to peak
too early, do you know what I mean?
But that was up to him, he could have been Jerry Rice.
He really could have.
This guy was all American.
I can't say his name, Billy Dawson.
And Billy Dee, Billy Dee was, you know,
I mean, 6'3", 205 wide receiver, big, strong,
out of high school.
You know, all American.
You can look this guy up.
And you know, it's just one of those things where,
you know, he's doing his thing and I'm sure he's very happy.
By the way, I have a bit on stage about Billy Dee,
because he used to torture me in high school.
And I have a bit about me going home,
and he and I meeting up again,
and how, no matter how much you evolve in this life,
when you run into someone,
you revert back to the dynamic of that relationship.
From back in the day. He's still big brothering you a little bit. Oh, totally. He's getting bigger and bigger and I'm getting
smaller and this is a big brother, you know, and I
was one of the white boys on my football team and I
get to unpack that story.
And so for me, selfishly stand up is like, it's a
way of people that they can understand who I am
because I just speak my truth about this journey
and I just talk about what I think is funny.
Because I can rail against the universe,
I'm not Ari Gold, I'm misunderstood, who cares?
You know what I mean?
It's your job, if you really care about that,
then make them understand who you are.
I would think being a stage actor,
or if that's your background, would be great for that because
one thing I find very difficult about stand-up is going out, doing something again that you
have to deliver as if you're delivering it for the first time ever.
Yeah.
Well, yes, that's an excellent point.
I mean, without being too cocky, the performance element of stand-up, that's an excellent point. I mean, without being too cocky, the performance element of stand up,
that's who I am.
I mean, I've literally logged more decades,
as many decades as anyone out there on stage.
So I'm very comfortable.
So that's not the variable.
The variable is material.
But you're absolutely right.
If I've got these bits and they're working,
I can hit it every night as if it was the first time,
because that's what acting is.
You're saying it for the first time, you're experiencing it all. So that's, I can hit it every night as if it was the first time, because that's what acting is. You're saying it for the first time,
you're experiencing it all, so that's,
I'm locked in on that.
So for me, it's just all about material,
and that's why I love it.
It's just fascinating to me to continue
to hone the material.
When you first started though, did you?
When I first started, you have to understand.
Do you do it in the mirror, or you do it at home?
No, when I first started, it's like any other comic you know I got up at the
Laugh Factory on Sunset for a benefit and I knew okay they're gonna have me up
there with a cagey massively successful stand-up again in Russell Peters who
travels you know the world and I and knew that Russell was one of the best at crowd work
and I knew, okay, he's, you know,
cause these guys are very proud of what they do.
Yes, I'm a prolific actor, but he's gonna expose me
and show how difficult standup is.
But you know, I'm a very competitive person.
I was like, have a couple jokes in your back pocket.
Just be ready, ready for the moment.
And so I was ready for the moment,
and I got lucky, and I got some laughs,
and it was completely addictive,
and that's how I got hooked on standup.
I was like, wait a minute,
you can do some bits with punchlines alone,
and then you hit it, and they laugh.
Like, it was immediately addictive.
And then you start, you know, at these dive bars,
and you're at dive bars, and you're bombing, and then you have to learn, okay, even though I've won three straight Emmys,
who's counting me, I'm standing up in a dive bar and I'm bombing. And you know, there are a couple
people that are there to see the DJ and they don't know who you are. They don't care. And there's a
couple of comics in the back and you're taking their spot and they're furious at you. So then it becomes, how do I work through this feeling
where every fiber in your body is saying,
get off stage, this is humiliating.
How do you breathe and work through that?
And once you do that, then you're just gonna get better.
See, that's humbling.
We always focus on the idea.
Athletes do not know how to use the word humble.
You know, you'll score 30,000 points
and you're going to the Hall of Fame, this is humbling.
I'm humbled to be in the Hall of Fame.
Well, that's why I think, to be honest with you,
and this is a much longer conversation,
take the NBA, for instance.
The NBA is changing.
What you're seeing is a lot of European players.
We know.
You know what I mean?
They just traded ours to the late.
I know, I know.
You got Luca, these, talk about humbled.
You know, Luca was overseas and playing, you know,
against grown men when he was a child
in the toughest stadiums in the world.
They're smoking, they're screaming, they're throwing.
They're throwers.
They're just mad.
It's awesome.
He's seen it by the time he got to the league.
He had seen it all, man.
And now, you know, you talk about these guys
that are maybe getting paid real money in college,
and they haven't been humbled, and they haven't heard no
since they were 13, and they're up against some dude
from Slovakia that's been grinding,
and he's taking their spot.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, they're starting to recognize it, too.
Yeah.
I've noticed, so I heard you talk about how the character of Ari and how massive that
was. It was probably the biggest character on television for half a decade and how that...
Well, eight seasons in a movie, but who's counting? So it was a full decade.
How that full decade and how that just changes the way that people interact with you. They see that
character. Yeah. I mean, you have to understand, we started the show,
and I'm not big on dates and we don't need to get into that
because a lot of people are like,
bro, I saw you at a Cubs game in 97.
Do you remember?
I'm like, no, I don't remember yesterday.
But when we started Entourage, it was just before,
there was no social media, it was before TiVo.
So like when we were doing it,
people would gather around Sunday nights and they would all hang out and watch the show. So that's what it was before TiVo. So like when we were doing it, people would gather around
Sunday nights and they would all hang out and watch the show. So that's what it was.
And so to be honest with you, even though the show was massive, I was just a stage actor
from Chicago grinding, doing my thing and just trying to execute, you know, and I know
that sounds very diplomatic.
No, it doesn't. I'm just being honest with you.
It is diplomatic, but I'm just saying,
I just mean that people perceive you a certain way
based on a very popular character.
It happens to all sorts of different actors and actresses.
Let's go back to Baker.
I guess Baker is a through line in this interview.
I was a perceived as a rich, white,
type A, arrogant guy
with a massive target on his back.
You know what I mean?
That guy's easy, let's take shots at that guy.
So because of that, I was doing my research last night
and I found some relatively small comedian,
but the video had like 100K views,
and she was telling a story where she had opened for you
or hosted for you and she was kind of bitching about it.
And it just got me thinking, people are predisposed
because of what they see on television
to think that this guy's an asshole.
And here's the thing, she told a story
about how she told you that the wireless mic,
here's how you turn it on.
And you're like, okay.
And you went up there and a few minutes in,
the mic turned off.
And you're fumbling with the mic
and I'm like, immediately I'm like, that's a bit.
So she went over in front of the stage
and turned it back on for you and handed it to you.
I'm like, you're an idiot.
And then she said, this is her telling how wrong she was.
And then she said in the second show, it happened again.
And I'm like, why would that be?
How could that have happened again?
And then she gives you the mic again. And then he made an entire bit that was
identical about it. Yeah, he did it again. That he doesn't need a mic because he's a
stage-trained actor. At the end of it she said and Jeremy was like you know hey
next time we do a show here maybe you don't try to ruin that bit for me and
I'm like that's what you deserve! You ruined the bit! I'm not a stand up, I can tell you exactly
what he was doing right then.
And the guy she's talking to is like,
yeah, I've heard he's an asshole.
And I'm like, what is happening here?
Here's what's great about getting older, guys.
I'm gonna save you guys a lot of time.
Well, he's already wasted his on friends.
Well, no, no, we'll save you guys a lot of time.
The old me would have been triggered, would have been angry, would have spent a lot of time. The old me would have been triggered,
would have been angry, would have spent a lot of time
right now trying to make you guys understand
what really happened, you know.
And now the reality is like, listen man,
what people say about you is in our business.
And I learned the hard way,
the reality is when you're high profile,
listen, people, listen,
people, they, a great saying about success is, success is when you can create your own
trajectory without having to bring someone else down for your own momentum. And I think
we're living in times where it's just like, people are just trying to like, you know,
everyone's looking to hack into the system. I gotta I gotta eat my cookies I need my flowers let me bring
this person down. That's not interesting to me. I'm just gonna work as hard as I can.
I'm not gonna get triggered. I don't know who you're talking about. That was a bit you
know what I mean? Of course it was. It was obvious. Yeah. So for me, every comic that's ever opened for me or that I come
into contact with, I'm really fascinated by. So like if someone's
opening for me, I'm asking them questions, I'm taking notes. So I don't live in fear
of these moments because I know who I am. That's cool. If that makes any sense. Of course it does.
Yeah. So you know, it's like, you know, I would say for her, I want her to win.
So I really do think when we have negative speak
like that about other people, it doesn't actually help us.
I think people think that it helps them,
but it doesn't, if that makes any sense.
For sure.
One thing you said that got me thinking,
you mentioned doing the charity benefit.
I have a friend in Vegas. I just call him my Vegas friend,
Vegas Mike, and he said he met you,
Michael Sartain, at a benefit,
I think you were doing a standup.
Yes.
And the benefit was trying to raise money
for plastic surgery for survivors, female survivors of domestic violence.
That was not, that did not go well.
And it was headlined and hosted by Caitlyn Jenner.
Yeah, that for me.
I just wanna know anything you have.
Wait, for victims of domestic violence?
You know, a woman who gets beat up,
they a lot of times need,
Yeah, no, it sounds.
A subject to abuse need reconstructive surgery to get your life back together so so
here's what happened here so did he so here's the cheat I learned the lesson
the hard way I was asked this is very early on in my Santa career you know to
do this benefit you know and I was honored like you show up and you you do
your set for free and and it's actually for people that specifically
have been scalded in the face,
have been thrown, like boiling water,
been thrown into their face until these surgeons
donate their skills to reconstructing their faces.
So no one told me to do a clean set.
Oh no.
So I went and did like this wild,
I was like, okay, I'm just gonna go out there
and make him laugh.
And it was definitely like,
I've never bombed like that in my life.
It wasn't just silence, it was gasps,
people gasping, horrified, just looking at me like,
how do we make him stop?
Do you know what I mean?
And so it was one of
those moments where it's like, oh yeah, you gotta know your audience, man. And you gotta know,
oh, had they said to me, look Jeremy, just so you know, there are a lot of traumatized people out
there. Like I have this one bit about running lines with my mom. I go, I do lines with my, I mean,
I don't do lines with my mom, sorry. I run lines. Don't do lines with your mom, kid I do lines with my I mean I don't do lines to my mom sorry I run lines don't do lines with your mom kid mom god damn I'm so glad you bank
dad we have to clean up before the cleaning lady gets here mom let's do
less cocaine so I would run lines with Joyce Piven and so I do this whole bit
about and then I launch into an actual word-for-word scene from Entourage because my mom would test me
on all my lines. So everything I said is Ari Gold I said to Joyce Piven's face. So
I'm like Lloyd have you had so much cum squirted in your eyes and they go and
they're like literally like everyone's like it was like this moment of like it
was like spring PTSD it was springtime for Hitler it was madness it was like springtime for Hitler. It was madness.
It was like, I was like,
everything went into slow motion.
It was terrifying.
And you know, lesson learned, man.
You just gotta know the room.
You gotta know the room.
And I was doing bits that like,
at the Arlington Improv, see what I'm doing?
Tomorrow night and Saturday, it's gonna go well.
Arlington.
It's gonna go, it's gonna, not Addison's gonna it's gonna go well Arlington it's gonna go it's gonna make not Addison kids it's gonna go well you know
that particular event it didn't know it didn't go well bless brush your buddy
Michael shout out to Michael he's a good dude and the positive there is that it
it lifted up the other comics on the bill to where they thought they were
better no one was lifted people thought they were better. No one was lifted. People thought they were better once they came on.
There was no one else.
I was the only comic they booked.
The set, they say art is when you can make
10 minutes seem like eight.
My 47 minute set felt like an entire lifetime.
It was a disaster.
Yeah, I mean, and for people who have been scalded
by burning hot water, they're still like, make it stop.
That's a tough one to pull off.
I know Ari Emanuel, you always say that's the inspiration.
But does Bob Odenkirk's character in Larry Sanders,
hate to keep going back to Larry Sanders here,
but I don't even know if you guys crossed over on that.
Not bro, your head's gonna explode right now. I'm so glad you brought
that up. There's a real reason you won't believe this. You're gonna pull this up
and maybe even and splice it in if you can. Bob Odenkirk and myself, and I'm
making this up, are in a scene with Mark Cuban and Mark on Entourage and
Mark Cuban has all the lines and I'm sitting
in with Odenkirk and I remember just going like wait what is going on and and
God bless I love me some Mark Cuban he's the fucking man right he's a genius
prolific badass authentic dude we're big fans yeah but why in God's name does he
have all the lines in the scene it's like you got two very capable actors
who want to contribute, and it was just one of those moments.
And he's just such a fucking badass
that he just like embraced it.
You know what I mean?
It would be like, you know, me saying to Luca,
no, bro, I'm gonna bring the ball up.
And I'm gonna look, I'm going to the hole.
I know you got a good shot, brother,
but I gotta have my moment.
So, so Cuban just kind of launched into his,
look it up, in this massive monologue.
And it's every once in a while,
they would cut back to me and Odenkirk, just silent.
But I wondered if like his portrayal of an agent,
do you remember that?
Like I said, I don't know if you guys are actually on the show in the same season Bob Odenkirk's agent no okay
I'm sorry no he portrayed Larry's agent I understand that okay listen brother
again I Bob Odenkirk is probably one of the greatest comedic minds ever he comes
from sketch comedy he he comes from doing
the Herald with Del Close, and he is a flat out genius.
Did I look at his portrayal as an agent
in the Larry Sanders Show and take from it
in any way, shape, or form?
Absolutely not.
Okay.
I'm just being honest.
No, but what I can tell you is after watching
PCU
last night, I always understood the old school parallels.
PCU obviously a little bit more incisive,
especially for the time, but the role that you're playing
in old school is just a better version of the.
Let me go back and tell you a little bit about
the journey really quickly and old school.
So Todd Phillips, you know, who we all know
is one of the.
He's here for the gangbang.
He is indeed, exactly.
Brilliant comedic mind.
And so he wrote and directed old school
and then went on, you know, Joker and all that stuff.
And wildly prolific.
And I got ahold of the script and I was,
and I'm not just saying this, I read this script.
Imagine reading old school. It's exactly what the movie is, right? I was, and I'm not just saying this, I read the script. Imagine reading old school.
It's exactly what the movie is, right?
I was like, are you kidding me?
This is unbelievable.
So I was like, can I just meet on this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Todd's, you know, he's meeting people.
Okay, great.
So I go in and meet and I go, I'd love to play.
He goes, no, that's Will Ferrell.
What about, no, that's Vince Vaughn.
What about, that's, okay, what do you got left?
They go, no, the only thing we got left is the dean
and he's a nerd and the guy they they locked him in a dumpster you can't play that role it's the
only thing we got left and I go why can't I play it? He goes look at you you look like you're like
Vince's best friend you yeah I remember he looked at me goes he said to me for some reason you're
built like a gymnast I was like thank you okay you. Okay, I'm built like a gymnast.
I never even thought of that, thank you.
I go, well, would you allow me to audition?
He goes, sure.
I went out, found the worst sweater vest you could find,
found these glasses that are not unlike these.
Right?
Did a fucking comb over, wore the sweater vest,
and got in there and did the audition for him. And I got
the role. And you know it's one of those things where you know that's the great
thing about acting. You know what I mean? It's like we went through you know we're
coming through a very strange time in culture as we all know. Where like you
know if you weren't the you know you had you had to be trans, to play trans.
You know what I mean?
It's like, guys, we went to acting school,
this is what we do, this is what we do.
Just give me a shot, just give me, you know,
I just want an opportunity to win, you know what I mean?
So we've come through that, and this is one of those cases
where he looked at me, he goes,
no, you can't play the nerdy Dean.
Well, yes I can, that's what I do so I loved it old
school was an incredible experience it was the only role left you know what I
mean and I had an absolute blast Vince's is an absolute stud Will Ferrell you
know from all of his years on SNL you cannot make this guy break no matter
what and you know and he was incredible.
And that movie stands the test of time.
Oh.
Yeah, no, I remember thinking that
when I first saw the movie or saw you cast in it,
because I'm a fan, and then I thought,
you should be one of the guys in the fraternity.
And the age didn't really match either,
like you're not the dean in Animal House.
Yeah.
You know, you seemed similar age,
but anyway, I think it was great. Listen we need and Todd
Phillips my dream would be now because he's been famously quoted as saying we
can't do comedies the way we used to and the irony of that is if he did it would
be wildly successful because people miss that they
miss dark comedies what's the last great comedy you saw I mean I bet you can't
even think of it what's the last great comedic movie you saw it's been a while
yeah exactly exactly you know the way Netflix series and stuff like that that
I enjoy like I'm a big I think you should leave fan.
It's just avant-garde, but not necessarily like biting.
Film.
Yeah, super bad.
Super bad felt.
Okay.
Felt somewhat to me, but I don't know.
I'm trying to think of what else it would even be.
Yeah.
I think we need to bring edgy dark Comedies back man. I mean, you know, why not do an old-school sequel up there older school. I don't know
That's what it'll be. Let's do a say anything sequel say anything. Okay, let's do it. Let's get let's see them all like
not talking to each other and
them all like not talking to each other and I'm projecting my marriage sorry. Yeah. You know something like that just they're all at home and it's just never
like you know kind of like the graduate end like what where they are they really
gonna be happy there you know. You know I think it's time I just read a script a
guy named Mike Binder, who's a brilliant
writer, director, stand-up.
He directed all of Bill Burr's stand-up special.
Okay, maybe that's right.
He wrote and starred in Mind of a Married Man,
and he's incredibly prolific, and he's a guy who's,
you know, he's in his 60s, and he's back on stage
doing stand-up, I was just doing a benefit with him
for the firefighters,
which I got a ton of material for,
I'll be doing this weekend.
It was so fun to like, okay, let me write some stuff
for them and you know how like,
people are just like, I just,
I want a first responder to look like me.
Like, I don't want a first responder.
I want a fucking Irish 30 year old alcoholic vet
who's gonna get fucking hammered and wake up
naked on a stove to put me over his shoulder. I don't want a fucking Jewish
actor from Chicago with a bad back. You don't need representation. No we don't need that.
Just I need gender fluid on the fluids. Stop with the fucking fluids. I don't
know how we got on this. How did we get on? Oh yeah Mike Binder. So you're
talking about you know redoing these things. Mike wrote this script. Talk about a dark, original comedy. I read it and I
was like, oh my god, this is incredible. And it's funny, you give it, it's a two-hander, so I, we
gave it to some other, you know, actors that you guys may know. What do you guys think about this?
And they're like, ah, it's too dark. And it's like, you know, that was last year. I feel like this
year is different. I feel like, okay, I think the fear is starting to drop
and I think we're entering into times
where people are realizing, well,
we have a business to run.
I know that we're supposed to be looking at it
through this lens, but like, let's just do the best,
let's figure out the best way to do this,
whatever that is.
And also people miss edgy, great material.
So this is dark, it's a dark, dark comedy,
but I think they're missing it.
So this is one of those things where it's called fastball.
And we gotta get this thing made, man.
And I think that people are gonna go back
to these really edgy comedies that over the past four years or something,
they might not have gotten made.
You know, if you've lived through the cancellation fires,
I might suggest you just do like Soul Man 2 as the lead.
There you go.
Let's do it.
I don't know if Blackface is the move at the moment.
We don't know. Last year you didn't know we'd be where we are now.
Yeah. And then your things.
So man, that's what's weird about your world to electric Boogaloo.
This world that you live in, the 12th of never, which is way different
than your standup world is that guys will write something or be working on
something and it might not get done for a decade right?
Yeah, the Miller performance right? I have a movie called The Performance and it's
taking me 15 years to make and it's an adaptation of an Arthur Miller short
story that my mom handed me out of the New Yorker and my sister adapted it and
directed it and I play a tap dancer in
Brooklyn in 1937 that hides his identity and dances for Hitler and it's the best
work of my life by far and it's just interesting that like you know I'd always
you know the guys you know of my generation the the John Favreau's of the
world and all these guys got very early. The Pete Bergs,
they got early. Wait a minute. I need to be creating my own material. I need to be writing
and directing. And I just stayed in my lane as an actor. And then I finally went, wait,
what am I doing? So this is my first attempt at that. And sure enough, like, you know,
it's by far, it's the best reviewed movie I've ever done in my life. The best reviews of my, it's, you know,
from Variety to Deadline to Roger Ebert has said,
career defining performance and all this stuff.
And you know, it's sometimes it takes,
you know, you just gotta stay in it,
not give up and trust yourself.
And I broke eight ribs while we were filming
and here we are and it'll be out,
I can't tell you exactly when, but it'll be out soon and I'll be back and we'll talk about it.
But it's definitely like, because when I was pitching it, imagine like people being maybe
fans of my work and they're like, okay, what do you got, Jeremy? And I'm like, I play a Jewish
tap dancer and they just burst out laughing. You know what I mean and they're like can we get a check
you know they just leave so I couldn't get the money took me forever to find
the money and then the irony is I knew that I could do this and I knew it would
be the best work of my life like no I wasn't a tap dancer but every year they
said no I kept tapping until finally I got good enough so it's like it's like a metaphor for the timing of the universe. It may not be on your time,
but you have to trust the universe's timing. Welcome to my Ted talk. Welcome.
I was going to say we got deep. You don't podcast anymore?
I don't do it because. It's for low lives.
It really is. I don't know what the fuck you guys are doing. Okay, no, no.
There was an issue with,
something was going on and they were,
I can't unpack too much, but on the other side,
there was, it came to fruition that things,
people weren't being straight, and you know how that is.
Anyway, so they had to shut down the company
that was putting it out.
Anyway, so I'm regrouping, and yeah,
I got to interview so many, like, you know, like the-
You had the cubes on there?
Mark Cuban was, at one point I said,
Mark, you know what's interesting is,
I played a douchebag on television,
you're an actual douchebag, and he goes,
I know, baby, I fucking know.
And the thing is, he's just one of these guys
where it's like, he's kind of an anomaly,
where he owns his authenticity, he has no fear,
he's wildly prolific as this entrepreneur,
and he's just crushing the game.
as this entrepreneur and he's just crushing the game. And he's, some may see it as arrogance,
it's just confidence, you know what I mean?
So we love a little Mark Cuban.
Arlington.
Arlington, let's go.
I have to go, you guys.
I was gonna say, we were just kinda waiting
for you to get up and walk out.
Like, fuck, he's gonna, tomorrow, February 7th,
there's a 7.30, there's a 9.45 Saturday, of course, February 8th that's 7 p.m. and 930 that's right just yell it
just yell no not in the middle of my show then yeah put the lady at the one
club but get it across just not in the middle we'll hang out we'll take some
pictures smoke some cigars you know I just want one guy from this room to come.
And I'll tell you why.
Like right now?
Yeah, you got to work me up.
I was gonna say I can't just
that was very awkward. I mean, if I mean, you're Jeremy. I can
get there.
No, it make it to the show show so that you can say,
yeah, I saw Piven, he was viciously mediocre,
or holy fuck, you know what I mean?
Like let's just, someone come because, don't.
It'll be me, I'm gonna come.
Just finish, no one finish in my face.
Okay, we're gonna come all over Jeremy Piven in Arlington.
Yeah. Heck yeah. Let's go. Jeremy Piven in Arlington. Yeah.
Heck yeah.
Let's go.
At the Arlington Improv.
Yeah.
And uh...
What he means by that is empty your bag.
No, no, hold on.
Wait.
Right.
Your sack.
Yeah.
I'll buy you a drink.
All over Jeremy Piven.
I will buy you a drink.
Well, thanks for joining us, man.
Thank you for having me, Dumb Dumb.
That's the great Jeremy Piven.
Thank you, guys.
Let's take a break.
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Right, not the slapping God's face.
Right, no, this one is like
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uh, that's what you would do if you saw God, correct? Well that was a good time.
That was fun. Yeah, Jeremy Piven. How about that? We have a new friend. I didn't want
to promise that I would go to the show, but I might go to the show.
I think I'll go to a late one.
Okay, well I was thinking of the early one.
I got fam in town and it's easy for me if they're all done.
Why are you late guy now?
You're go to bed early guy, but also,
hey, I see Tom Green is in town
and it doesn't start till 11 o'clock, I'll go.
Tom Green, that one was a spur of the moment,
very outside of the norm, just felt like I had to do it.
Okay.
This one feels like it'd be good for the show.
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Look at this guy doing stuff for the show.
What a, what?
What?
You know, I was about to tell you a little bit ago.
Yeah, your wife was something.
Just about a really good feeling I had yesterday.
Oh nice.
Yeah.
It's this, so,
we all have iPhones, right?
This is not a Milwaukee Bucks situation, is it?
They're all.
Oh no, no green bubbles.
We all got the blue.
Fawn maker isn't here, no?
I don't know if...
I think it just defaults this.
When you have a calendar alert, like yesterday at 10 a.m., my calendar popped up and it said,
you have a show in studio tomorrow.
So a 24-hour calendar alert.
Then it'll give you another two-hour one, right? Well, so last night, 7 p.m. or maybe it was 6 p.m.,
all of a sudden the calendar alert pops up.
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And so now I have 24 hours to savor.
That's a smart move.
The lead up to it.
Yeah.
Because this has been, ever since then, the Luca thing, you know, I mean,
that is what helped clear things up for me. Sure. Like, the Luca thing really has been...
I'm very surprised at how this is affecting me in such a negative way. Like if it's affecting me, I can't imagine how it is affecting DFW.
My wife didn't learn about it until Monday.
Wow.
And then when she got home from work on Monday,
she said, oh, now I know why you were whispering
in the closet Sunday morning.
Cause Jake called, like he said, text me when you get up.
And so I was laying in bed and then I see the news.
And then I looked at my texts and saw Jake said that.
But then I, anyway, I still had, I'm laying in bed
and I texted him like, hey, I'm up.
And he calls right away.
And so I had to get up and whisper and talking in the closet.
And then, you know, we did a show that day
and I just told her the Mavs had a big trade.
She's not really into sports and everything.
But that's the thing about Luca
is that she did know Luca.
Yeah.
And she comes home Monday and she's like, oh my God, now I'm reliving it again.
And she goes, he plays with such joy.
Like that's what she said.
She goes, he brings joy.
Like, and that's the feeling of him.
Like you can't, there is no thing on the stat sheet.
And I'm a guy who loves objective stats and
a real, you know, I don't really believe in mysticism.
I don't believe, but where I don't believe in that, yet I also do believe emitting good
kind of perhaps might help the odds that good comes back to you at some point.
Or I don't know.
So I really don't, I'm not a big religious person, but I do somehow believe in some kind
of a, hey, let's, it's just an extra dollar I give on a tip or something.
Like I think that'll come back somewhere, maybe, and if it doesn't, well then I made
them feel good.
And, you know, that's what I tried to teach my kids as far as any
religion goes like I feel like that might and even if it doesn't come back
you know it's going to give you a good feeling like you know maybe you're
donating to a charity but it maybe it's just for you okay fine and it just makes
you feel better no I'm with you but even if they don't believe in that part the
he plays with joy and he brings joy. That's the thing. My wife even just with
highlights or some things she's watched felt great joy because of this guy and
because she knew him when she was 19 or he was 19 and we've seen him grow and
that's the whole thing here fucking Nico. I can't stop thinking about how you
don't understand this. Don't like it isn't this is what i mean about you don't understand
this don't
it like it isn't a title i don't care
i don't care
if indeed you win two titles in a row now
but you didn't
the journey with this guy it was that was part of it
obviously you're gonna have to make trades and additions and everything
around them, but this is part of this wonderful story.
I don't know, the Marlins aren't a real relevant thing these days, but back in the day, the
Marlins would put together like a super team and they'd sign a bunch of free agents in
an offseason.
All of a sudden they win the World Series out of nowhere.
And then they go back to being a 60-win team.
Like, I don't know.
It was always a debate.
Would you rather be the Braves who are in the playoffs every year?
Would you rather be the Marlins who were in once out of 10 years, but they win the World
Series?
You know, I'd rather be the Mavs with Luka striving, failing, like like I'd rather do that
than trade Luca for a piece.
And you didn't even make a trade
that really is gonna make sense.
It's not going to win the title this year.
It will not happen.
Yeah, I was thinking about that part.
Just now objectively, I just don't think actually
that Anthony Davis, and this goes,
I think I listened to a little
more Ethan the other day.
He was on, he mentioned us on his podcast.
Did he?
Yeah.
Said I was on the dumb zone earlier today.
Sounded funny.
But he even, what was he talking about?
Oh, he was just talking about the Schefter analogy like he was with us.
Schefters was like, oh, it'd be like trading Lamar Jackson
for Joe Burrow.
That doesn't make sense.
It is like trading Lamar Jackson for Tyree Kill maybe.
You know, a different position that is not as important
as the position and older.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, so I'm gonna play this real quick.
I haven't even listened to it.
This is always very smart Isaac from
Locked on and Mavs calm just posted this it's from the hoop collective and I okay
Well, it's unlikely that what will happen last time you didn't listen to something
Will happen then it might be they don't think the end board of this
They reported that one of the reasons why the Lakers were able to keep their second first round pick is that the-
Okay, he's gonna say the exact part we know, right?
That the reason that the negotiate,
this is the part I'm fixated on now,
that the reason that they didn't get more,
and you even look at the trades last night,
like the Lakers go get Mark Williams from Charlotte.
And they traded, like they had a pick swap.
And Dalton Connect.
How about every possible pick swap?
We do it.
Well, we can't.
And obviously, this is the starkest, darkest part
of this to me.
The reason that they didn't get more
was simply because they didn't want it getting out,
and they didn't want it getting out because they
knew how much the fans would revolt over it.
That, to me, is a sinister element of this
that makes it OK to be completely out. And think of the irony. The people that still
want to ride with the Mavs like starting today, they don't even need any time to
think about this. They're just like, I'm Mavs, it's AD, it's Kyrie, it's Clay, it's PJ,
it's Lively, it's the boys. Those fans were actually deprived getting better players and better picks in return
because they needed to be lied to. So you might not think a 2031 pick matters that much,
but I promise you when your roster is built around 32, 34, and 35 year olds, you need picks to trade
now. They're worthless to you need picks to trade now.
They're worthless to you as picks, but you are a team that needs to be throwing everything at the wall,
you know, except Luka, to try to win now.
But that's even speeded up,
because their players now are old.
So, the very fans that are gonna stick around
and support this team, got less in their portfolio
of things to root for, because they actively needed to be lied to.
The part where it's being reported that Niko
actually acknowledged how bad this would be for the fans
and that's why they couldn't let it get out
and that's why they couldn't get more,
that part sealed the deal for me.
That part right there, you know,
now I don't think they understand stood
how bad it would be,
but they at least had some understanding of no one in the world can know about
this because if they do, we won't be able to do it.
And anytime you're doing something like that to your base, your customer,
whatever, fuck you. It's okay if everybody's out at that point.
It's not just that he's bewildered that Dallas loved Luca.
It's that he understood, knew that if you found out,
you'd stop it, so he lied to you by act of omission.
He's eventually gonna get fired.
He'll go to his lake house or his beach house
or whatever, one of his houses.
Yeah, he don't care.
And he'll just be like, oh.
Somebody said something to me.
Didn't do well there. I'll save it for viewer mail because I have we have a lot of Luca and viewer
mail
The only other thing I would mention on the Luca front was actually there's a lot let's get into the press conference
Okay, we could do hours on this. Yeah, what do you want it? Yeah. Yeah, I watched the press conference
It's incredibly angering and
then sad. Yeah and and maybe today we'll try to just do Luca and you have it queued up there. Turn up a little bit. Let's skip
to that first mark I gave you if you don't mind. Luca's sitting there and he
just looks dead.
Are we able to go to 305?
We're working things out.
It's all good.
The second person I want to thank is
anytime there's a trade or a transaction,
there has to be a partner.
And I want to thank the Dallas Mavericks,
led by their GM, Nico Harrison,
who was also very instrumental in bringing this opportunity.
Yes, this is where I start getting mad.
I was gonna say, I cut out like the first two minutes
cause it's BS, but it's just-
He does look just like Rob Lowe.
It's shocking.
Like I'm a bit,
I'm a bit, get a little hot here. He's hot.
Yeah.
So I'm starting to get mad.
And then as he talks here, what he's doing here is trying, he's trying to keep it classy
because he knows I gotta make other trades
with other people.
And I cannot do a touchdown dance.
I cannot spike the ball.
I have to act like I've been here before.
I'm gonna drop the ball and go right to the sideline
and there's gonna be no celebration.
He can't say, honestly, when I got the call,
I couldn't believe it.
Yeah, like Jesus Christ. He can't say honestly when I got the call I couldn't believe it. Yeah like Jesus Christ
He can't say that the only thing I could do
Was you know
Like no one would ever make this call not one other GM
would have said
What do you think about Luca like?
said, what do you think about Luca? Like, inside, like this is what we train for.
This is why this is calm the breathing.
Don't show anything.
Don't get excited.
Just kind of act like what?
Maybe hit mute for like three seconds.
Yeah, just not collect yourself.
But you wouldn't think it was real.
That's what I mean.
That's why initially he did go, you're joking.
And then, no, no. And he's like,
I don't know. Interesting. Yeah. Then what's the most?
I don't know. Yeah. And then I'm sure that's when they start doing their due diligence.
They talk to a million people that were not him, I'm sure. Just to be like,
what are we missing? Is the anterior crucian ligament, whatever they, you know.
It's like us in court.
Yeah, like.
We go every day like, God, they gotta have something.
Like, are we missing something?
Are you sure there's no, where's the surprise thing?
Yeah.
Oh, he showed up at 260?
Like, that's the thing.
The thing is, he is a bit overweight.
He does not eat correctly.
He's not LeBron, like as far as or Tom Brady or whatever.
So imagine how good he'll be if he does kind of start doing those things. Like he's already...
What if?
Like let's go look at Jokic. There's a guy that's not grinding in the weight room, that's not
chiseled, that's not like, and I bet as a younger player,
there's some thoughts on that.
Like, is this guy in the gym?
Is he a gym rat?
Does he even care?
I mean, he wants to fly right home after the season.
Like he doesn't even want, well, and then he kept doing that.
Like he didn't want to go to the parade
after he won the championship.
But Luca, you've never thought that of like.
But his weight and his conditioning was just an extension of the real problem for Nico, was that Luca was a diva that he did not want to deal with anymore.
Yeah, that Nico thought he was a diva.
The problem is that, one, even if he is, who cares, you're in the finals.
And two, you can't have this situation where everyone else who played with them is like,
guy busts his ass, he plays hurt,
goes 40 minutes a night in the playoffs while hurt.
You can't have all the other players.
You know what, let's do some of those.
Is it?
No, well, continue with this.
I know, we were just talking about the other players.
Oh, all right, well, whatever, yeah.
I wanna get back to this, though.
I do wanna, what do we do, what do you think, Clayton?
Let's just roll with the press conference
and just keep playing that answer when you can.
Because I do think listening to those guys is interesting.
Good morning.
Before I start talking about the young man next to me.
First of all, thank you in Slovenian.
And then staying true to the negotiations
throughout where it could be culminated with the trade being finalized and Luca
Donchich Maxie Kleber and Markieff Morris becoming members of our team so
wanted to thank those those two people and now we'll start with questions yeah
wait go back to it's like a Genie boss in Nico Harrison. I want
to hear the Nico thank you. That was it. I mean, it's just basically, yeah, that he
kept it quiet, that Nico's a pro, blah, blah, blah. Can you get to the very start of it
again? Partner. And I want to thank the Dallas Mavericks, led by their GM, Nico
Harrison, who was also very instrumental in bringing this opportunity to us
and then staying true to the negotiations throughout where it could be culminated with the trade being finalized
and Luca Doncic, Maxie Kleber, and Mark Keefe Morris becoming members of our team.
You have to remember those other guys.
Pause it. So, yes, staying true to the negotiations.
those other guys. Pause it. So, yes, staying true to the negotiations. Yeah. Just knowing that the Lakers could not offer what Donchich is really worth. Somebody would have
spilt 10 firsts. There's no telling. Lakers didn't have that. So Rob didn't want that getting out.
Yeah, that might not have been as, well, we can debate whether even they're set up to win now. I don't really think they are
but
At least you would have
Some thought of you at least you've got the biggest haul in NBA history in a tree, you know
Yeah, but the but that I would still be pissed and they're probably still out
Yeah, but that would never happen because Nico's not trying to win in a few years
He literally thinks they can win now if they get rid of the cancer that was Luca dog and probably still out. Yeah, but that would never happen because Nico's not trying to win in a few years.
He literally thinks they can win now
if they get rid of the cancer that was leukodontic.
But again, if they win now.
I won't care.
I was also thinking this is kind of like,
because I'm watching the OJ documentary every night.
OJ won the trial.
People forget.
Yeah, so if the Mavs win at all, it'll be like OJ winning the trial. Oh, okay. People forget. Yeah. So if the Mavs win it all,
it'll be like OJ winning, not guilty.
Okay.
Like people will be like, yes, you still killed.
You're gonna have to wear it.
These people.
Yeah.
So yes, they could officially win.
Like it's so sad to even think like this, but.
It's true.
He brought joy.
So you guys are completely out on the team this year?
Yeah.
Because I had, I watched the game.
Oh, I think they'll be good.
Well, I don't care.
Yeah, but I feel for them as people.
I mean, they had nothing to do with this.
Yeah, well.
Before the trade, we were all about PJ Washington.
If they fire Nico today, I'm back.
I know, but we're punishing these athletes
because they were next.
Sorry guys.
No, it sucks and I don't like it.
And I love rooting for Kyrie.
I love PJ.
I love all of them.
Fun group.
And if fans wanna go, I know Saturday people are gonna
have kind of a rally outside, but then you go inside you want to cheer for the team do it that Lakers game on
four nine that I'm gonna go to like I want to cheer for the Mavs but I'm also
going to chant fire Nico sell the team and I'm gonna chant MVP every time
Luca touches the ball yeah they get it dude you think they don't know they know
they they know because they work there
like everyone else.
They know it's not about being, you know, them.
They get it.
Yeah, I guess I just, like I go back to when
you guys left the ticket.
And when people were getting mad at the people on the ticket,
they had nothing to do with it.
You can, so you can support both.
You can be all for Luca and still enjoy
what you enjoyed for your entire life.
Everybody's gotta make their own personal decision.
That's where I am right now.
Do we have the ability to play it from where we were
or is it gonna go to the start?
All right.
I wanted to thank those two people.
Perfect.
Good morning.
Okay, so we have like a program issue.
All right, then go to the one at eight minutes.
Young man, next to me, I just want to thank you guys first
for you, Luca.
I guess introduce this trade idea to Jeannie,
and what was her initial reaction
when you told her about it?
Yeah, so this all started with the car.
Pause it, keep it here, and don't take it off this thing.
We can't.
Just don't take it off this,. We can't. Just don't take it off this and we'll be fine, I think.
The point is, what was her reaction?
Yeah.
Holy.
Yeah, yeah.
Nuh-uh.
There's absolutely no way, and he's gonna downplay this.
But she's like, no, there is absolutely zero way
this is true, What are you saying?
Well, she said we need to do our do-do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
In Dallas, where Nico approached us with the concept,
and because there was a partnership
and a history of travel in the world
between Nico and myself working around Kobe Bryant,
there was a fabric of trust in the world between Nico and myself working around Kobe Bryant, there was a fabric of trust in the discussions
and these type of deals are incredibly intricate
and complicated.
And along the way, we knew there would be 248
insurmountable snags to get to the end, and there were.
And so over the course of three.
That's all I needed.
That one really, really set me off.
Because he's probably right, there's a lot going on here
with contracts, with making salaries match.
Hey, we gotta call Danny Ainge.
We always know he's horny to get involved
with some second round picks.
And at every single snag, Nico had the opportunity to be like,
man, I don't know.
Like, I feel like this might not be good.
This is not, it almost would make more sense
if it happened like the night before.
This started before he got hurt on Christmas Day.
To be able to think about this for a month?
Yeah, like if he got hurt on Christmas Day
and they traded him the next day,
it'd be like, well, I guess, like,
they just sort of like were done with him being hurt.
This was when Luka was returned,
was playing at MVP level,
they were turning into a 60-win team
based on their healthy win-loss record,
and Rob Polinka's keep, they keep hitting these snags,
and Nico's hitting these snags,
and Nico's like, we'll do whatever we gotta do
to trade Luka Doncic to you. Like there were snagsags. Nico's like, we'll do whatever we got to do to trade Luka Doncic to you.
Right.
Like there were snags.
Oh, you need a-
He's like, I don't care.
I'm determined.
I can't have two first?
All right, well what if we give you a second?
Like wait, no.
Yeah, they had to chip in some money.
How about call every NBA team and get me,
I need 12 seconds in this,
just do something to make it look like something.
Not Anthony Davis.
I just thought it was funny that Palinka's like,
this was really hard to do, which makes it so much worse.
Yeah, it was hard for, yes.
It was hard for Palinka.
And Palinka had to be like, look, dude,
we're really good friends.
Remember traveling with Kobe and stuff.
You gotta keep it quiet.
I wouldn't even tell your basketball analytics people.
Dude, I saw a guy on Twitter, one of the funniest,
I was so mad I didn't come up with this,
and he was like, every single report about Palinka
and Nico Harrison make it sound like Palinka
was grooming Nico, and he's like,
hey, this is just our deal, buddy.
Yeah, that's just.
We have a fun time together, don't we?
I mean, if you start talking about it,
then what if this deal doesn't get done?
Probably also no one will believe you.
Wouldn't that be terrible?
This is too wild, no one's gonna believe you, little buddy.
No one will believe you
that you're getting such a great haul.
Why not?
Like, look, I mean, I know you're,
I'm bending over and I'm taking it, you know, for the team,, I mean, I know you're, I'm bending over and I'm taking it for the team,
but I mean, I'll, I don't know, man.
He's fat, he drinks all the time.
Yeah.
He's out of shape.
Hadn't won a finals yet.
He hasn't won a finals.
He has, he's got a ring.
Yeah.
I mean, don't you, I don't know,
the culture that he could bring to your locker room.
Championship. I mean, that's the kind of he could bring to your locker room. Championship.
I mean, that's the kind of thing.
You want this guy who just kind of does whatever he wants?
Hey, there's something else too.
You know who didn't draft Anthony Davis?
Mark Cuban.
What does that do for you?
All right.
This'll be your team.
So then the last one, Clayton,
is the one that's at 14 or 15
or something like that.
I'd like to hear Lucas start talking.
Yeah, he's in.
Just play it.
Many, many legends passed here, many, many championships.
A lot of it's just talking about the Lakers.
Luca, Brad Towns in Dallas Morning News.
So you wrote a Dear Dallas letter to fans
that was very heartfelt and you talked
a little bit about your shock. How are your feelings toward the upper levels of the organization,
you know, Nico in particular, the decision to trade you?
Well, I mean that's their decision so I have no comment on that. They made the decision. I don't know why
So but that's their decision so I can't do nothing about it
That made me so sad. Yeah, I know
Just the way he
Maybe it's his inflection is soft talk, but he's he's a kid
It's I don't I don't know I don't know why they
did it I don't know why that's dirt and it's it's a soft landing zone like this
is a terrible thing I actually wanted to go back to when he first started
talking about like when when he learned about the trade and like it stunned him
yeah let's switch to audio and I'll see what I can do. And he was so,
he was so taken aback. And this was a hard thing for him.
And like even today,
or this day that he's doing this press conference,
he's shocked and he's trying to take it all in.
And it's a soft landing cause you got,
you know, he makes 70 million a year
and he's not going to Memphis. He's, you know, he's going million a year and he's not going to Memphis.
He's, you know, he's going to like
the basketball capital of the world type thing.
But he's, it makes me so much more sad
to even know even with all that.
He's sad.
He's sad.
Like I'm telling you, you're going to the Yankee,
you're going to the best thing ever.
It's gonna be so great for your global brand and all.
But he still was sad.
Yeah.
Because he knew too.
Yes, it's a different thing if you're building something
than if you kind of come in on someone else's thing.
And now he's on LeBron's.
And I know it's like Cool Bridge.
Now, Kareem and Magic
and LeBron and, or Kobe, LeBron, now you, like.
It's not the same.
That's cool, but it's, I kind of think in his head,
it was really cool for him to go from the greatest Euro
to take that baton and then continue that.
Yeah, and I'm not saying he would have given 21 years,
but he was bought in on that.
Yeah, I think he was bought in on the statue
next to that statue.
Loyalty never fades.
And I think there should absolutely be a Luka statue
here in Dallas still.
I'm gonna play a little bit of audio here Blake is that cool? What's your I'm sorry what's your
reaction to seeing all of us here to welcome you to Los Angeles? Well first of
all it's very nice you know there's a lot of people here I don't think there's
ever been so many people in my press conference sounds like a little baby I
really appreciate all the all the support.
I really appreciate all the support.
Luca, welcome to Los Angeles. I'm curious, what's your reaction been the last 48 hours? Some of the comments coming from Dallas on your way out the door to join the Lakers.
I'm just excited to be here, to start this new journey. And obviously at some point I knew this was gonna happen,
but I would say I always take the high road.
I had my amazing moments in Dallas
with all my teammates, coaches,
and the most important, the fans,
that always supported me.
And it was an amazing journey.
I don't think people are focusing on that part enough
and I do acknowledge that there's a language barrier.
Right, it's like when we played the Kristaps clip
the other day and he's like, some baskets,
I have to use meat.
But him saying I always knew this could happen
or would happen, I'm trying to parse out in my mind,
is he just saying as a pro athlete,
I always knew there's a chance you can get traded?
Or is he saying, I knew Nico was kind of a piece of shit
and he had it out for me,
and I knew that this could happen?
Luca, welcome to Los Angeles.
Same question.
I'm curious, what's your reaction been
the last 48 hours to some of the comments coming
from Dallas on your way out the door to join the Lakers?
I'm just excited to be here, to start this new journey.
And obviously, at some point I knew this was going to happen, but I would say always take
the high road.
So at some point I knew this was going to and that and that you're right just be like be tense suburb and right and him just saying like
Yeah, I'm a pro athlete like that you get traded
But it was still a weird way to put it and then yeah to follow up that Brad one
Here's the obviously the absolute heartbreaker and I was trying to stay by that
But this would say Like I said, I thought I was going to spend my whole career there
because I think loyalty is a big word for me and I was trying to stay by that.
But this for me is a fresh start.
I get to play in LA, the fans are amazing and I got the ocean here so it's a really
big thing for me.
But really, I'm really big thing for me.
But really, I'm really excited to be here.
I'm getting to play for the Lakers, and I can say that, and many, many legends pass here, many, many championships, so that's my goal.
So, but I really see what I can do. for him to justify and make himself feel better because yeah you are in LA you
are this that but it's impossible for us yeah here's for him to what did he say
there that made me die? Loyalty. Luca Bradtowns and Dallas. Oh yeah I'll back it up a little more. Big thing for me.
But really I'm really excited to be here. Yeah I would say like you said I
thought I was gonna spend my whole career there.
Ouch.
Because I think loyalty is a big word for me.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Did anyone on, did you?
Did we talk about this off the air, around the air?
I can't remember, but just the whole thought
that the Euro athlete. Yeah, we talked about it, does seem to be more apt to be loyal
to the town that they go to.
And I think I've heard others talk about the fact also, and maybe it was, maybe it was
Ethan piggybacking on your AAU versus Euro thing.
But the thought too is that these AAU guys, they've been friends forever
because they've run into each other all, you know,
when they were teenagers and everything coming up
and they develop friendships and then they wanna
Team up. Team up and go on to,
but Luca doesn't have that, you know?
I mean, the biggest speculation we've ever had
is like, what if him and Jokic decide Denver,
Dallas, wherever, that's it.
Yeah.
You know?
And frankly, that was always a problem with Dirk.
You know, people go like, why couldn't the Mavs
get a free agent?
It's like, because nobody hangs out with Dirk.
But then the guy, then it seemed to be easy to recruit here
because Luka makes other players better.
Right.
Like he makes their stats better. He makes them get paid more.
Tapping time and time again.
Here's the ender.
So, but that's their decision so I can't do nothing about it.
And then one of the reasons that was given was that there was concern that, you know, beyond this summer,
or that you, there's a chance you
might not agree to the supermax extension did anyone on did you or anyone
on your inner circle indicate that that might be the case that absolutely not
he said something like his easy decision or easy as could be and he looks bummed
when he says that he knows he just lost all this money.
So, anyway.
That's another thing, yeah.
This is gonna hurt the Mavericks.
Oh yeah.
Because also you did this
and you cost him that 100 million.
Had you signed him to that and then traded him?
Which would have been easy.
For a haul, yes.
You...
But other players will see that boy, you dicked him out of that. Which would have been easy for a haul. Yes you
But other players will see that boy you dick him out of that
It's great. You like you dream my draft a guy
again There's a difference in a year you draft LeBron or that you draft
Anthony day Anthony yet. Oh who is the Bennett? Yeah, the Cavs got the number one overall pick then.
Yeah. Even if you draft Kyrie, Kyrie really good, but that's not Luca or LeBron or
Jokic or Janis or there's just certain guys or Steph became that, you
know, there's certain guys that become
the thing. And Luca is one of those very few certain guys. You dream of that. Man,
if I could only draft one of those guys. And the laughing stock of the NBA,
I think I even saw this, somebody wrote that other GMs have been fired because they didn't
draft Luca and they had the opportunity to. The Suns GM had the opportunity to draft Luca
and didn't. Yeah.
The Sacramento.
Waddy's gone.
The Atlanta guys traded.
Slink.
The pick away. Yeah.
Now, and that was like, cause he was an unknown.
You weren't really sure.
It's, you know, the guy who drafted, who was that?
I know Olajuwon was, but there was another guy drafted before Jordan too, like a tall man.
Yeah, not Ralph.
In Portland, I think.
Sam. Was it Sam Bow Portland, I think.
Was it Sam Bowie?
I think so.
Maybe Sam Bowie.
I'm sure that guy ended up getting fired.
The point is though, what if you traded Jordan to Portland
for Sam Bowie after his third year?
Like after taking the NBA by storm.
The finals, after you've been to the finals, you'd have to even,
ah, it's insane.
Like there's no comp, it still doesn't make sense
and it still just makes me so sad, angry, slash.
Cause I don't want to talk about Luca tomorrow.
There's a guy I'm trying to book,
that hopefully we can talk to next week.
He wrote an interesting article on Substack that Ethan retweeted. It's a guy who actually
worked in the Mavericks front office for three years. He had a one year overlap with Nico.
I want to talk to him about his article next week, but just to put it in super Cliff Notes
terms, the guy early in Luca's career
was trying to get the front office to trade Luca. Because he said that his counting stats are crazy,
but if you look at his defense and this and that,
that his statistical model was like,
you'll never win in the playoffs with this guy.
He cannot win in the playoffs with this style of basketball.
And he would push hard for it,
and it was his understanding, as we all know,
there is no chance in hell Mark Cuban is ever trading
this guy no matter what his quants
and his basketball ops people tell him.
So this is a guy who objectively looked at the data
and was like, you should trade Luka now,
his value's never gonna be higher.
And even he says, you know, over the next couple years
I kinda came around,
which of course, why don't you just wait to see
if the guy gets better before you want to trade him?
Yeah.
And then over the next few years,
Luca got better on defense.
But he was evaluating everything
by the numbers and the numbers only.
The numbers only and the deeper numbers.
Cuban actually.
Was on vibes a little bit.
Yeah.
But even that guy looked at it over the last couple years
and thought, you know, he's shored up the things
that he was bad at.
It feels like Nico was trading on a 2019 profile of Luca.
All the stuff that he's saying now, Nico,
or that's coming out, that's all the stuff I was hearing
before they drafted Luca.
Like Damaris and I would be sitting there waiting for a post game when the Mavericks are or that's coming out, that's all the stuff I was hearing before they drafted Luka.
You know, like Demaris and I would be sitting there waiting for a post game when the Mavericks are,
on a Tuesday night, getting beat by 50 in a 50 loss season.
He's like, I've heard about this kid in Slovenia,
they're worried he parties.
And I'm like, you're talking about this 17 year old
who lives in Madrid?
Not too worried about it right now.
And Luka was that guy.
And then he was in the league for like five, six years
going to the playoffs, going to the title,
and Nico's like, I don't know,
I see an immature 17 year old.
So that, and then I wanted to play two other
from Lakers media day.
Let's start with Dorian, who's a top 10,
top five MAV for me just from fan love standpoint love watching LD and
Dorian and I thought this this Dorian clip was funny
won't play okay okay it's all good we're kind of going through it today so what
would I do I guess I will do, I can just play the audio here.
I know him, man. He, uh,
he want to play the whole game.
I think he played like 40 minutes every game last playoff.
So that's one thing about LD, he, he, he want to play. So,
I don't really look at the noise. You know, I look at his production,
he produces, so.
Shit, if I'm putting on them type numbers,
maybe I need to be two-setting.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
I just love him.
And then Markieff Morris, who, you know, in a limited role,
he was like the room guy here.
I grew to like him a little bit as well.
Marky there's been a lot of negative things said about Luca in the last couple of days.
What is your reaction to some of that so having made his teammate?
It's a great guy man, super low maintenance don't need much. One of the only
guys that I've been on the team with that will play through any injury if he
can get on the court. I heard stuff about him not being in shape, but if you can go in an NBA game and get 30, 15,
and 10 like is nothing, then I don't really know
what shape is, I'm confused at that part.
But you know, yeah, and you'll see it really soon.
You'll make the suggestion if he in shape or not.
So, yeah, there's just two guys that are like,
I don't know what he does, but I know the playoffs.
And here's another thing a listener pointed out to me
that I forgot about.
Because Anthony Edwards, I guess they asked him about this
and he's sitting down and did like a one minute interview
and he's like, this is insane.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, at the end of it he's like, shit, I don't know if we're playing April 9th or not.
He's like, but whenever the Lakers go to Dallas,
he's like, I wanna buy front row courtside seats for that.
Yeah.
You know what people forget about being out of shape?
Kyrie's 32 year old busted Anthony Edwards' ass
in the playoffs last year
because Anthony Edwards was tired. Do you remember how tired Anthony Edwards ass in the playoffs last year
because Anthony Edwards was tired. Do you remember how tired Anthony Edwards was
and Luca and Kyrie just kept handing him the work
and Kevin Harlan's like,
Anthony Edwards hands on his legs in the second quarter.
He's not in shape, you would never trade him.
That guy had to bow out of the playoffs.
The next Jordan.
Insanity.
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speaking of your mail just want to note no ice in the water today. Oh, who's reading the comments?
They're right. Look at this guy.
Trying to super serve our customers.
Unlike someone in town.
I got some snail mail to the den the other day.
Look at that.
This is from Neelay who says, uh, dear Uncle Slitfister, is this a new one?
Jake and Blake, it was great to meet y'all and hang out in Amarillo on your trip to Oxnard.
Nice.
Dr. Neelay.
Is he a doctor?
Like a real one or?
Like a Joe Biden one.
A book doctor.
No, he's a real one.
Okay.
Let's see.
Oh, Jake, if I had known you're on your way
to rock bottom with the bottle,
I would not have brought the beers. Oh, Jake, if I had known you're on your way to rock bottom with the bottle, I would not have brought the beers. Oh.
Anyway, he sent something for each of us. Let me here. Can you reach over and grab this?
Yep. He says, thanks, Jake, for carrying the banner of 90s country for people our age, and for understanding the greatness that is Garth Brooks,
especially the In Pieces album.
I sent you vinyl copies of In Pieces
and Mac Miller's NPR Tiny Desk recording.
Wow, that's great.
The greatest Tiny Desk ever done.
Insert something here about your bravery and recovery
and Mac being a cautionary tale.
I have a-
We got an album cover.
I have a shirt that's simply made from this album cover.
Blake, I sent you the Cartel trilogy by Don Winslow.
OK.
So I don't know what this is, but this is the, uh,
these are three big books, Blake.
Oh, yeah. They look like they're for men, so I don't, these are three big books, Blake. Oh yeah.
They look like they're for men, so I don't know if you'll like them or not.
There's a bunch of books for you.
I've heard of this guy.
And he has sent me a little poster that will go up here in our studio.
I probably don't have to tell everybody that looks at it what this is of course, but
Nice it's the boys
stylized as a
NWA yeah the boys
Still going
The final season is filming now. Hmm. It's pretty exciting. I
Don't want to hear any spoilers. So thank you. Okay
Will in Richmond says, enjoyed Jake's story Friday
about the Hitler-loving UFC fighter in his podcast.
But I think you all moved on a bit too quickly when
Blake started flexing all his obscure Bible conspiracy
knowledge about giants and stuff.
Agreed.
Can we please revisit. Agreed.
Can we please revisit?
Agreed.
I think I'm, I tapped out all I knew.
What, what was that that you told us the other day?
Just about the Nephilim and the lost book of Enoch.
That's about it.
And I said all I knew.
There's books that aren't in the Bible.
Yeah.
And you know this?
Yeah, Enoch was one of the two men in the Bible that didn't die.
And he might come back in Revelation,
because everyone has to die.
And because it's good for ratings.
But like the fighter said, this is for a whole other podcast.
What's the one I always hear about, the one about a lady?
Is it a Mary Magdalene book?
Maybe.
We're trying to cover up Jesus' wife.
There's a lot of that going on, it does appear.
Trying to cover her up?
Yeah, that's another one that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.
Alright.
But yeah, I don't know.
The Gospel of Mary.
Um. I can't have a gospel of a female.
Kyle Easton writes, I know it's a ridiculous long shot,
but could the Luca trade be a prank?
What are the odds that this would be occurring?
And then suddenly, he's involved in the craziest trade
in NBA history.
So he sent me a link. This is a
link to an article that says Anthony Davis set to host a new prank TV show
rivaling impractical jokers. Impossible. This is why Dan hates the trade.
Immediately following the NBA All-Star Game on, February 16th on TBS, this half-hour special promises to deliver
a unique blend of humor and athleticism,
which I've always said when I'm watching my stand-up,
I'm like, this guy doesn't look like he could.
Jeremy Piven probably can't dunk.
Could Seinfeld dribble between his legs?
Right.
Can Shane Gillis
Set the edge?
Yeah, can he hit a curve ball?
Like I've never really,
but this show will offer a unique blend of humor
and athleticism.
It's a show called Foul Play.
That's awesome, man.
Says here, similar to Impractical Jokers,
but with athletes.
So not funny.
Right.
Even less funny.
Jacob sends this in, and this really hit me.
He said, I just had this awful vision of Nico in the future
ESPN 30 for 30 doing his stupid fucking laugh when he talks about the trade and how
it failed miserably. Quote, well I took a risk and it just didn't pan out. I guess
I'm not much of a fan favorite in Dallas. Yeah. And I said, I just wrote back, this
is going to happen. And I want a lot of footage from April 9th when we're at the Lakers
game that day and speaking of that you know the guy who gave Blake and who gave me tickets to the
Lakers game he was a sit-in Blake took Brooks will he has been sending me emails about
he's a man of leisure and he was in Whitefish, Montana
to visit family, which means they're either very well off
or they're white supremacists.
Phil Jackson has a place up there, as does Michael Jordan.
And this guy and a couple of his buddies emailed me
and said they went to go golf up there
in Whitefish this summer.
And they saw Nico and Kid together. They went to go golf up there in Whitefish this summer.
And they saw Nico and Kid together. And they told the guys in the club
that they were hanging out with that day,
like the guys just who were there and met them,
that they were going to go meet with Phil.
And it's probably not a conversation for today,
but we should at least talk about, did Kid know and was he on board?
I've had some people tell me he definitely did and was, and some of those people are fairly well
positioned to know, and then the others are you look at the press conference and Kid looks like,
you know, his family just got murdered. So we do need to talk about that.
I think he was.
I got to think there's no way he makes this trade without at
least running it by him.
You would think so, but my point is just we've gone back
and forth on the they're a package deal.
Actually, they don't get along.
They're trading for this guy he doesn't want.
They're signing this guy he doesn't want.
And I'm just telling you that two different people were
like, hey, we saw those guys golfing on vacation together and whitefish this summer and they were meeting with
Well, I was in mass. I was actually thinking about Bill Jackson last night in the sense that
Because I think somebody else wrote something like hey
This kids frontal cortex something isn't even fully developed something like that, you know, they talk about
frontal cortex, something isn't even fully developed, something like that, you know, they talk about 25 year olds.
For males, yeah.
Like you're still becoming who you are.
And just thinking about the Jordan journey as well.
And they were doing pretty well, they were going to the playoffs, they were winning games,
but it was decided I need to get rid of this coach because I need a coach
that will get the best out of this.
This is the unique thing I have here.
There are lots and lots of coaches and pieces I can put around this unique thing, but I've
realized now I have this Jordan thing that's incredible.
I mean, credit to crumbs, Jerry Krause, for knowing that at least.
Yep.
And that was in my head of, well, would there ever have been a chance that Nico would have
said, you know what, gosh, Kid, this is all falling on deaf ears, but he does, he needs
his guy that's going to give him a book.
He needs his guy that's going to give him a book. He needs his guy that's going to... And Kidd isn't that guy.
Like is there ever a chance he would have said, Kidd isn't that guy?
No.
He picked...
And this is an age-old thing in sports.
Like all coaches know, look, they're going to get rid of me over...
Rick Carlisle knew.
I'm expendable when it comes to me versus this guy.
Well, I think, you see,
Luca's first game is gonna be Saturday against Indiana.
That's awesome.
Oh, that's why, okay, I saw the game was getting flexed.
They flexed that to ESPN.
It's because Luca's going to play.
And yeah, it's gonna be against Carlisle.
Awesome.
So I'll be interested to hear Carlisle's. It's going to play. And yeah, it's going to be against Carlisle. Awesome. So I'll be interested to hear Carlisle's take on this.
It's all very sick.
But yeah, I was thinking a lot about Phil Jackson, just because would that
have been an option?
Hey, I've tried this, I've tried this, we've tried this.
So I know I tried firing or getting rid of everybody that was close to Luca.
Somehow that didn't make him really want to listen to me more.
That's weird.
So I...
Dear Prince of Poonjab, thank you for getting me through the week.
I had to make the decision to put down my dog of 10 years and had to confront the fact
that I was much sadder about Luca. Yeah.
Never punt from Sam.
That's a good one.
I got an email from, I got a number of emails on Ethan.
Ethan riles the people up.
It's just how it goes.
He definitely has some provocative positions
and opinions over the years
and I don't agree with a lot of them,
but I never questioned that he believes them.
Whereas it's not like skip, you know?
Yeah.
You're just saying that.
And it was the part of talking about DEI,
and that is a tricky thing,
because this guy put it as,
this is overly dramatic,
but giving oxygen to these bullshit DEI arguments
is the type of shit that lets people give themselves permission to vote for the white
supremacist currently taking a blowtorch to the constitution, and that just sucks.
But this guy's, this point was like, Strauss acknowledged that Niko was hired as GM and
Cuban was running the show, so while his title was inflated, there was no evidence that he was unqualified
to be a relationship recruiter under Cuban.
To the contrary, it seems most of the moves
he made in that framework were successful.
His tenure under Cuban doesn't suggest
he was unqualified for the job.
Strauss suggested he was hired via the Peter Principle.
If the Peter Principle applies,
he was competent in his prior role,
so how does DEI apply it all to this?
And I think the main thing for me was just,
one, we're just talking.
Just trying to talk and think this out.
I think the scent thing is really where it starts.
You know, like they did hire her
because she was a black woman.
But, yeah. For years years the reason you need these things as clunky as they are is that no one else was gonna
Get hired like it was just white guys. No you even said that when talking to Ethan and that was a good point
I thought great point. Hey, thanks that that they
Many there are many people who are very good at their job who might have been hired
because of a DEI type thing, but you don't hear about that. Right. Like, or might have actually
even just gotten in the door because there was a DEI thing in place. Yeah. Yes, SINCE is a way
different deal. And I think Ethan was just kind of like, hey, I'm just talking here.
Was it?
Had Pants DJ not happened, is Nico, who knows?
Lucas stole a mouth.
I do think it's interesting Nico was brought in
to kind of save relationships or bring in relationships.
And I thought the trade, the Caleb Martin trade
was telling because he shipped out Grimes
who was approaching an expiring deal.
He didn't, he wanted some return.
Return.
And the Aluka thing kind of started with the,
I don't know if we want to pay him the super max.
So Nico is sending out these guys
that he's afraid he's not gonna be able to retain
when he was brought in to retain guys like that. That's a good point.
Yeah. You're the cool guy. Why are you framing everything? You're the relationships guy.
You're the get the guys in here or keep guys in here and you're shipping away
people because you're afraid you can't. I got another quick one here. I mean,
a little suspect for me to even introduce this but it's out there
So we have to talk about it Lucas contract has a player option of the 26 27 season
It isn't a foregone conclusion that he will sign with the Lakers
Let's say Luca denies that option the Mavs have already fired Nico lack of playoff success general public hate
Hey, Luca comes home to a place. He loves
Don't rule it out.
Um, prerequisite is firing Nico.
Oh, without a doubt. Yeah.
But I do believe I have talked myself into a LeBron,
I'm coming home type thing at some point.
Maybe it's after he wins a couple titles elsewhere and
I still think you're hot, baby.
Yeah, I just, yeah.
You know.
Do you have any more Luka ones?
Cause I'm done with Luka ones if you wanna.
I'm done with Luka.
Let's do a, I got a couple on Gummy.
I got one before.
One more Luka?
No, before Gummy Thoughts.
Hit me.
I'm gonna keep this anonymous.
I've been listening, it says,
hey guys, I've been listening and noticing
there have been plenty of chatter
about desperate jerking off situations from the past,
most notably Blake buying a DVD
hoping for a non-edited version to beat it to.
I think you'll need a segment called Bad Beats
where anyone can provide some of their worst
beat off stories from the past, we all have them.
For example, and throw up that image Clayton,
like squeezing one out to an Alicia Silverstone
Batgirl commemorative cup.
That's from my past, right there.
Right there.
And I think this has legs.
Of course it does.
Kind of like the bad beats segment.
Yeah, of course.
There's a demographic thing there, right?
Nowadays, that just doesn't occur.
No.
What do you mean?
But I think our demo is in this era.
Just you as a kid might have had to search for some things.
Now it's just so readily available.
Yeah, but also there's other stories too,
where you could be somebody who has readily has
access to material but you like you shampoo one time it doesn't work well
it's you got really dries everything out yeah so I hear so it could be any sort
of bad beat I like I don't know I'm kind of against it because I also don't like
guys just talking about like I think that's what ladies think
Guys sit and talk about well what I don't like is guys talking about ladies
I don't like when a guy comes in he's like you know go believe what I got her do last night that it is
No, patently disgusting to me. What did she do, but a guy talking about?
Like a struggle beat right misery. Thatery Loves Company. I like that.
If you're down bad, I wouldn't mind hearing about it.
And we can filter it out, and we don't have to do it.
But I thought that was a good email.
So within Viewer Mail, or whatever we call this,
I can't remember the-
The Thursday Viewer Mail follow-up extravaganza
inclement fossil thing.
We do get some gummy-thoughts, Viewer Mails,
and that's brought to you by CBD
Excuse me early bird CBD not just all CBD. No
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Or the CBD like we like because it has THC real deal. So how many millis?
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gummy. So it's a microdose of THC. And I'm saying this for me everybody's different You can have two of them
Yeah, for sure start with one take the edge off
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The Luca thing I'll give you three or four. Yeah the anyway, it's got THC if you get drug tested at work. This is not your
gummy
But it's ours. So that's gonna bring you gummy thoughts. I'm gonna go to early bird CBD, any kind of Diski?
I wish I had that copy in front of me.
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Oh Dumb Zone is the code?
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Furor the finger bang I
Let this go the first time
But the follow-up on small insects falling off tables was even dumber than the original
It has nothing to do with the density of ants and geckos. A person and an ant falling off the table are
traveling at the same speed when they hit the ground since the distance isn't
very much. The person and the ant aren't traveling very fast and don't get hurt. A
person or an ant falling off the Empire State Building will have a long distance
to accelerate faster and faster and splat on the ground.
BORING!
Also, terminal velocity is not how far you fall for it to be terminal or deadly, it's
the fastest speed you can fall...
Yeah, you're right, now I'm bored.
If you don't want experts and continue to live up to the dumb zone name...
Uh, I hope?
Anyway... I don't think this guy is really catching what we're saying though. I hope anyway I
Don't think this guy is really catching what we're saying though Yes, if we all fall the ant that falls off a table. He's gonna keep going that is 30
That is like a hundred times the length of an ant if we fell off something that was a hundred times our height
We would die and the ant doesn't that That's what I'm talking about bro.
Somebody's reading the comments. Battle this guy. And I got one more gummy. Okay.
I'd like to be the 3,000th emailer to correct you on your misunderstanding of
the birthday paradox. Remember I told you last week if you're in a room with 23
people there's a 50-50 shot I I think you have a share birthday with somebody.
Is that why it's called 23 and Me?
Yes, that is why. He said in a group of 23 people there is a 50% chance that at least
two people in that group have the same birthday, not that someone has the same birthday as
you. So this guy got up my ass. Garrett, PS, Lindsey Stirling plays a plastic violin
and Blake should just admit it.
Ooh, damn son.
This guy just fried your ass.
Seems mad and she plays it really well.
Can I give you a gummy thought?
Yeah, bro.
I'm not worried about blindness.
Or going deaf.
You mean when the thing your mom would tell you was going to happen if you keep going back to bad beats? No, this is just a quick one. I just want
everyone to know. I've long said that I think in my lifetime, no blindness. They will cure,
they will eradicate blindness. Yeah.
Now I know that there's a lot of different types
of blindness out there.
They got a bunch of different various products and blindness.
Cause I'm also not worried about hearing.
I think I'm starting to lose it.
You probably have a real problem with that too.
Like you talk really loud and you wear headphones.
You've been doing it longer than I am.
I'm already losing some of my hearing.
I can tell.
But I just don't think this is going to be a problem for us.
Now, do I talk loud or do I project?
Is there a difference?
Defensive?
And here's my other one.
And everybody's got a different algorithm, right?
So...
You can talk in algo.
And I do like that one
But why is it in this age of trying to improve yourself?
Self-improvement as grass-terbation as Tyler Durden would say
Why is it that when my timeline is just smashed with here's the best way to meal prep?
Eight great exercises to open your hips Ten exercises that if you do in a
row will burn 500 calories in this. Six books to read to never fail again. These
five recipes will get you like your gut health which will lead to mental clarity. These three meditation techniques.
Are there any women who do this?
Why is it only men only who are talking about this?
Are women just capable of living normal?
Because my wife doesn't seem to have a problem
with any of this.
She's just a normal person.
No, they're-
But I'm not saying there's no women and women live longer than us
But we have to and they're not doing all this we have to acknowledge the fact that all this shit all this optimize your life
breathe
sleep
steps
protein
meditation
help
treatment It's all dudes.
Well yeah, theirs is like avoid these oils,
switch to glass instead of plastic wear.
I do know about the lady flutes.
And the biggest one, how to manipulate your man.
It's just different.
It's just different.
Maybe that's a good point.
Maybe that's a good point. I just see a lot of stuff that I'm supposed to be doing every day which essentially would take like 29 hours a day
Got to read for an hour before I get up got to reflect got a journal. You gotta walk
There's a lift got a meal prep
I go to bed early five signs your husband is unhappy and they'll sit and watch these influence influencers go out there all five
It's just different. It's it but ultimately it's the same message is how to be happier Your husband is unhappy, and they'll sit and watch these influencers go through all five.
It's just different.
But ultimately it's the same message,
is how to be happier.
It just seems like I'm constantly getting pelted
by this stuff and it's only dudes that are like,
I don't think you're living right.
Well hers is probably like three signs
your husband's an alcoholic.
I don't think that would have been a tough list.
It would have been rushed tough list. I think she would have been right. Like it would have been rushed like whenever
your kid's trying to write something
and runs out at the edge of the paper,
you're like, you didn't make enough space.
Like you should have.
I have one more for the middle.
By the way, to the listener who complains,
I didn't bring it up.
Blake did.
About what?
We're addressing all of the comments today.
Oh, what did I bring up?
Drinking.
Oh, does somebody in the comments, like yours?
Try to only bring it up when I think it's funny.
You're not a hero, bro.
No, no one does that.
They're just like, shut the fuck up.
Oh, okay.
Which, the implication is that you're not a hero.
Let's slow down, right?
Sure.
Like other guys got drunk and stuff.
Again, should the heroes be the guy that didn't have to go to rehab?
They could pull themselves out of it and keep going to work every day and didn't have to leave their buddies just to do a show by themselves?
I need you to, right now, quit any substances for the rest of your life and report back.
Whoa! Look, I just thought we were all joking around here.
We're just having fun, right?
Now all of a sudden you're gonna.
I would never ask you to change.
My last one is a Hot Mayor follow-up.
Ooh!
From Warren in Savannah, Georgia.
We were talking about, well, he says dear uncle clit clodder. I
Thought I'd give you a little background on the hot Jacksonville mayor Donna deegan remember her oh, yeah
Yeah, she had to eulogize the
the original owner's wife while introducing
Quasimodo as their new coach. And she seemed incredibly hot.
She definitely had like.
Certainly mayor hot.
Power hot, yeah.
So here's a guy, here's a guy, Warren,
who grew up in Jacksonville he said.
He's a mayor.
He's from Jacksonville.
She used to go by the name Donna Hicken.
She was a weekend news anchor
for the local Jacksonville ABC affiliate, was
married to Dan Hicken, the TV's sports anchor. Looking at the two of them, it was clear that
Dan married someone way out of his league.
Shut up, Dan.
Eventually, Dan quit his job at the station. Rumors started to spread that Dan and Donna
were on the outs due to an affair. Hmm.
It was later discovered Donna was shacking up with Tim Deegan, the same TV station's
longtime weatherman.
Damn that's hot!
A surfer.
Spicy, deucy butter.
And also an Aggie.
He was weatherman hot I guess.
He had blonde hair, blue eyes, and surfer bod.
Although he looked to have leathery skin from being out at the beach all the time.
But who am I to judge?
Of course, as you can tell by her current last name, Tim and Donna eventually married.
And now, somehow, she's the mayor.
Enjoy your show. Please more rehab stories. More Dingu. More Sarah Heppala. More roast twins.
From Warren. And he says
Callahan is also a very small town outside of Jacksonville. His kids were
named Jackson and Callahan. Yeah. Okay. So Donna Hicken or Donna, what's her name
now? Donna Deegan. Double D's. But how about that?
That's hot. You're that's very you're married to the sports guy.
Yeah. What's our dude's name? And you cheat on the sports guy with the weather guy. Dude.
Yes, you're married to Dan Henry.
And you're married to do see and do see his wife leaves him for
Dan Henry,
and then she runs for mayor and wins it.
So Deucey has to look at his ex-wife who's-
This is incredible.
Banging the weatherman every day, doing press conferences.
Oh man, they opened a new arena, he's gotta go interview her.
That's great stuff.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
That's very-
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Here's Jay with the Dumb Zone News.
Well, I nailed that read, dude.
Like, you have to project sometimes.
Now I'm a loud guy.
I thought it was great.
It's in my head and I'm loud.
37-year-old man executed last night in Huntsville.
Got that lethal jecky.
That lethal jecky.
He was pronounced dead at 650 last night of the state pen.
His name, he's a black guy, Stephen LaWayne Nelson.
Now, I only say that, the race, because I find this as a universal tie between races.
Because as Mike Reiner used to say, when you get the middle name Wayne involved, you got
a problem.
Interesting. John Wayne Gacy. you got a problem. Interesting.
John Wayne Gacy.
There's a lot of them.
Really? Of course you only know the name whenever some, the middle name when
somebody's infamous, but I find it interesting.
But if there's a lot of Waynes.
Yeah.
I find it interesting in the community, the same thing stands.
They just put a little zest on it.
It's Steven LaWayne Nelson.
It's just the same name.
Yeah.
Was he named, was it after Llewain?
I don't know.
This gentleman killed an Arlington Reverend Clint Dobson
in his church back in 2011.
This is our first exe of 2025.
Okay. And the reasonE of 2025 okay, and
The reason I'm reading this and it's a bad it's big it's a sad story. I don't know if you were
Hoping for a happy ending in this one, but he did kill the guy suffocate well this guy got killed So that's happy right and as he was being killed
Before the lethal injection was administered he told his wife who watched
He loved her and he was thankful and grateful. He then turned to the warden and said, it is what
it is. I'm not scared. I'm at peace. Let's ride, warden."
Okay. Let's copyright that phrase.
Yeah, I think Mark Wahlberg already tried the Let's Ride one. I don't know.
Did his estate, did this guy's estate have to pay Mark Wahlberg?
I conflate all those stories. Let's Ride is united, or Let's Roll.
Yeah, and Mark Wahlberg said that if he had been on that flight, it would not have gone down.
Something like that. Right.
Are you aware that a local-
I believe that, by the way.
Mark Wahlberg's a badass,
and I don't want you to be spurting-
I like my chances.
I like my chances.
With Mark Wahlberg?
Yeah. Yeah.
I'd rather be on a plane with him than me.
Very fair.
Yeah.
We've touched on this over the last year or so,
but local luminary embroiled Brian Curtis in some controversy.
You guys been keeping up with what's going on
with old TD Jakes?
I have not.
No, after he fainted.
He did faint, which was interesting,
because it was happening right around the time
he was getting roped into Diddy stuff.
Like, hey, TD Jakes, he was named in a lawsuit.
So kind of like the Randy Johnson flu,
when you're out of the lefty is on the lineup,
when Randy Johnson is, hopefully I'm not sick today.
Dude, if I could blow, if I could dap you up right now
for that sports reference.
Heck yeah. I would.
So, there was the Diddy stuff saying that he was involved in all that. I'm really bad at this too.
Like our guest was saying that.
Here, give me an index finger into there. Put it in there.
We're doing fun with the camera now.
Fuck. Yeah, get that in there. So there's a pastor that has come out
and said that Mr. T.D. Jakes tried to groom
and sexually assault him years ago.
There's a second one.
This one is Pastor Richard Youngblood.
And these are charges.
I know him, man.
He uh.
Is that me playing that?
You want to play the whole game.
Hey, there's the Dorian clip.
It unfroze.
So this is kind of complicated.
But this guy, this pastor, Richard,
is filing an affidavit attached to a motion
to dismiss a defamation suit filed by Jakes
against this guy's brother,
who also says that Jakes assaulted him. So you got one guy says, T.D. Jakes against this guy's brother, who also says that Jakes assaulted him.
So you got one guy says,
TD Jakes assaulted me.
TD Jakes says, that's defamation.
Original guy's brother says,
no, he assaulted me too,
and I would like that out there,
in a motion to dismiss.
So it's complicated, but they're all involved.
It is brothers, two guys who are,
not two separate things, you know?
It's not two strangers who didn't know each other. What I'm saying is their stories being the same
is not that supportive of the evidence.
In this affidavit, Youngblood says he went with Jake's
on a trip as his driver, and in their hotel room,
Jake's got into bed with him and pressed against him
and tried to kiss him.
It's forward.
They were sharing a hotel room?
Yeah.
Which I think like, this was happening in the 80s.
I don't think that was uncommon.
You know, you watch like Mindhunter or any show like that.
Couple blue collar dudes traveling the country,
they're getting a two bed at a motel
and leaving in the morning before anybody else is up.
This guy says, on our way back after the meeting,
I brought up what happened.
It expressed my extreme discomfort
and that I loved my wife.
I'm sure that's exactly what you said.
His response was a slight grunt. Something like, hmm. To which I asked what you said. His response was a slight grunt, something like, hmmm, to which
I asked what that meant. He responded that it kind of hurt his feelings to hear me say
that. So, anyways. And then nothing happened? They didn't do anything? No. I mean, this
is a long time ago, man. I mean, the closet is full of people
who had something like this happen to them,
and they're like, you know, everyone's gonna really hate me
if I say this out loud or in public.
So, I don't know, it's a weird situation,
because TD Jakes clearly is involved
in a lot of accusations at this point, but is he just a big enough deal?
You know, he's Emmett Smith's pastor
and every famous athlete of a certain age in this town
that they're never gonna believe it.
So does it even matter?
I mean, the easy comparison is Trump.
Although I think a lot of his people think he did
a lot of that stuff and are just like, it doesn't matter,
he's getting done what we wanna get done policy-wise.
Well I thought that's what you were saying about TD Jakes.
Well with TD Jakes I'm saying I think your followers
just don't believe it.
Oh okay.
I mean they just say.
That's possible too.
There's no way, this is a man of God, a man of the cloth.
But it is tricky when it's two other pastors. You know, it's not... now they could be jealous,
I'm sure that's what they'll say. They're just jealous of his success.
Right, they're just trying to sell a book.
Yeah. So, I don't know, that's a very interesting one.
What do you think about... this used to be a thing where people would like have a repressed memory brought up by a psychiatrist or something like that. You're in therapy and you remember...
A hundred percent believe that.
You do believe that that can happen?
Yeah.
Because I think there was a backlash on that stuff too.
That it's not real? Yeah. Yeah, I think there was a backlash on that stuff too. That it's not real?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that some of it is suggested.
That's why you're saying, you're kind of looking
for something like that.
I believe that too.
But I do believe there are times when people kind of memory
hold something that was very traumatic and tried just to,
you know, people wore whatever of like,
I'm going to forget about that.
And they have, like I've done a type of therapy before
where it's like eye movement therapy, it's really trippy,
where you go, it's literally like going to the eye doctor
where you put your eye on that thing and they shoot the air
at your eye, except you just stare into this thing
and you do talk therapy while it's happening,
and you have, let's say, a couple traumatic events
in your life, they will ask you to talk through that
and relive it while they do crazy stuff
with lights on your eyes.
And by the end of it, you actually feel better
and you kinda reframe that memory.
You've done that?
I've done that.
What memory?
Yeah, what's your memory?
There's a problem with you guys.
I can never say anything without being like,
all roads lead to what's the worst thing that ever happened.
Tell us when you got diddled.
But I do think, Luca, if you want to go in there
and talk through that, maybe they're having
a big time right now.
But again, it's tough, because you can't,
it's very hard to tell somebody else,
like what you're saying is your memory is wrong.
Even if you kind of believe they're making it up.
It's not easy.
I wonder if it was the Hawkeye prank call.
What else could it be? That was that was
very traumatic for me. So to tie a couple news stories here we talked about the
price of eggs last week. That's not just like inflation related that's avian flu
related. A bunch of chickens died. Well I got a, yeah there was a,
my wife was watching the Today Show news yesterday.
She'll watch that in the evening.
That slaps.
Yeah, little Savannah Guthrie.
It was a strain pun headline of the week.
I don't know, you know Brian Curtis does that.
Oh yeah.
And I don't know if he takes audio versions.
I want to cut it off and send it to him though.
Trying to make that podcast.
What was it?
I think I wrote it down somewhere.
The strain pun headline.
Brain notes would have hooked you up on this one.
Shower notes?
Yeah.
Eggs.
God damn it, where'd it go?
Oh, shell shock.
Ha!
The price of eggs.
I like that.
I like it.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're still hanging on the rim
if you're able to pull that one off.
Yeah.
But no, this story that NBC has,
which ties in with what I'm dealing with
in my neighborhood right now,
there's a company called Rent the Chicken.
You can just rent a chicken for six months.
And in the...
I like it.
Two hens lay about a dozen eggs a week.
That way you don't have to commit.
Yeah.
Four hens lay about two dozen eggs a week.
That's, I mean, we...
I think we could have done that math.
Oh, sorry.
I just read the sentence.
You're right.
That's a great point.
How about eight hens?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good point.
But yeah, that's an option for you out there,
because we're really getting on the egg game these days
at the house.
It's a big player.
It's got a lot of proat.
Yeah, I don't know control
that was bad right this is police each other you had one earlier that I thought
was swag don't you always think it's weird that that your pro is in your
scrote I do that's where you store it? Yeah. That's very cool.
I almost sent you guys a picture when I got home yesterday
from our big business meeting, not of my scrot,
just chicken on the front porch.
Like, it's not even.
The neighbor's chicken was up on your front porch?
Like, at the door.
Like, not on the yard floor, he's just sitting at the door.
And of course I'm walking up and I just hear the dog going ape shit.
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I'm glad we started early, Blake.
Can you imagine all the stuff we're going to be able to do this afternoon?
Like what?
I don't know, you guys want to go to the men's club or something?
No thanks.
Look at some titties.
Boy, think of the price of legs and eggs right now. Look at some titties. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But now I feel like great. It's Thursday. I love the way that this has been going.
We're gonna be off early.
We got the Haas Moto show tomorrow.
We got a big remote.
Please come to the remote.
It's very important to us.
You will get free beer, free coffee, free pizza.
So just come out.
Even if we suck, just please come out.
Says here, Saroi, the Haas Moto museum.
Motorcycle.
I said I would stop drinking in frontas moto museum motorcycle I said I would stop
drinking in front of you though I said I would stop coming in front of you and
you said you want me to do that too with over 230 motorcycles across 13
decades it's a gear heads dream come true hello
gearhead you know me for two seconds you You know two things, I'm not a racist.
Fellow Gearhead here.
Oh, I know you, yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, Sorority's gonna be out there it looks like.
What a day.
Chappy?
We'll see.
All right.
On this day in 1935, the Monopoly board game
went on sale for the first time.
Are you a Monopoly guy?
Yeah.
Okay, because that was a huge family get together.
Me and the cousins, we, you know,
the adults are going to do their thing,
they're playing cards or something,
we all go play Monopoly.
Yeah, I had a group of buddies we'd get together and play.
Monopoly was dope because it felt like an adult game.
You know, it's not Candy Land or any of the children.
You know what I really loved though?
Life.
Never got into that one.
That one made me feel like an adult.
It's like, well, I got a split level with no insurance,
the game's over, that's life.
You'd get this like, oh, you're poor.
And it would just be that.
For comedy, if you got married, would it be another blue not a pink?
Look, he's gay. Hey, I mean that's probably what you did, but I'm such an alpha. I just got two of the pink ones. Oh, yeah
So I'll jump ahead to this day in 2013. Hasbro Inc. announced Monopoly fans voted online to add a token to the board game which
replaced the iron.
The iron.
What is the new token on the Monopoly game board blade. You know? It has replaced the iron. So you
got your hat. You had the hat, you had the car, you had the cat. Oh no, it's the cat.
They added the cat in 2013? Yeah, that's when they added the cat. Oh. That's what it says here. So the thimble was already in play?
Thimble.
On this day in 1987, Ronald Reagan was the president.
He turned 76 years old.
He would then add another year to the record of he was the oldest US president in history.
President Eisenhower, previous to that, was the
oldest at 70 years old. Reagan was 76 on this day. Like it sounds really bad.
But it does make sense that guys can play later in their careers now, like
with... seriously. I do think that... I look at my dad now at whatever he is
66 or 7 and
He's nothing like my grand my grandpa whatever both of them were at 67 like a 67 they were
although your dad is a
He's very active triathlon guy
Yeah, he's but they but- He takes care of himself.
But my grandfather didn't even know that existed.
You know what I mean?
Right, but I'm saying though, like it makes sense for LeBron.
Yeah, yeah.
Tom Brady.
How does it make sense for Trump?
He like eats hamburgers, he drinks Diet Cokes, he does not work out.
Come on, bro.
What?
You know how much the-
Supplements?
Yeah, if you've got the money.
They're just shooting you up? Yeah, you get your kid. He's got a probably awesome
blood. Dude, if you walk it like those places where you can go get your blood
drawn or whatever and you see that here's what we offer sheet. Like this is
what rich people do. You're getting like a B12. You're getting a steroid shot. This,
this, this, this, this, this, everything you need every day.
You be living right.
On this day in 1998, Mary Kay Letourneau,
she was 36 years old and a former teacher,
was sentenced to seven and a half years in prison because she violated her probation
because she hooked up with the 14 year old father
of her baby.
Yeah.
14.
Really?
And then she went to prison, got out of prison,
and they got married.
Mm-hmm.
And they lived happily ever after, right?
Till her death.
Yeah, it's a crazy story.
Can you imagine being there, kid?
Insane story.
And you know what's funny is like,
I know a guy who lived in Seattle around this time and
Vili al Vili Vili his name. I don't recall how to say it. He would like he was a DJ and
She would just go to the club, you know
She's 20 something years older and he would just DJ gigs at nightclubs, and it would just be like,
am my wife Mary Kay Letourneau?
Really weird scene, but they were in love, man.
I know it's rape, but he was with her in her dying moments.
Yeah.
Very comfortable, I don't know, it's a weird story.
On this day in 2012, Lynn Sanity began.
Jeremy Lynn of the Knicks
scores a career-high 28 points in his first start. I remember where I was
seriously. Random but I that was a big deal. What yeah that was a week, two, month?
Yeah about a month, maybe three weeks. He'd just kill it every game. Till he got
exposed as having one weakness as described by ESPN writer who
was quickly fired. There was a chink in his armor. On this day in 2018, SpaceX's
new rocket blasted off from Kennedy Space Center on his first test flight
carrying a red sports car that would take it to the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. So like there's a red sports car
floating in that asteroid belt or I don't know if it's there yet probably
not maybe. How long did it take Matt Damon to get to Mars? Did you see that one?
I didn't see any of them. Did you eat potatoes? I heard it's good. I've heard Interstellar is great, but sad.
And so I said, no thanks.
No thanks.
What's that accent you used?
Me deciding I only want to watch non-bummer,
non-serious movies.
It says I'm better than you, character.
It's actually I'm worse.
I'm not capable of handling heavy content.
Viewer mail birthdays, I forgot to do these.
Dear clit comptroller.
And then definition, comptroller
is a manager level term in accounting.
So you either account for the clit or manage the clit. See you
nailed the joke you didn't need that. Well it's I'm just oh let me read the
rest of Tim's email. Tim's email. Tim's email who says it is my buddy
Brandon Kuvian's 50th birthday. Kuvie. Happy 50th birthday Kuv. happy 50th birthday Coov the Cove love you guys from Tim
Fire Nico and
More Blake
Dude, I'm saying so he asked for more Blake and you're just shitting all over his email. I was trying to help
I'm saying you came out with a banger. Don't explain it. Just walk away
Big dick Dan.
I don't get your email read.
Yeah man.
No, that is not the way you wanna go.
You wanna set the bar way lower, especially when.
Medium McDowell.
Medium would be great. Medium would be awesome. February 6th it is my buddy Jorge Martinez's birthday. He's turning Zach Orr
on the Mean Green. Blake. His leader is cussing Ted Emmerich. Is it racist that he tells his white friends
his name is George? From Dustin, DF number 404. PS I sent $20 to the dumb
zone Venmo. Explain the George thing to me? He's just pandering to the
whites. Yeah, Jorge will tell his white buddy his name is George. Yeah. It's not bad.
And dear, excuse me, dear captain of the clit, first I want to hear
what Jake thinks of my son's name. It is his Jason Kidd birthday today. Brenham Luca.
I don't love Brenham.
I was listening to Jake talk about how he'll never get to experience Luca with his son.
We are, slash were, season ticket holders.
Took him to two games, but of course he won't remember them.
He loves Luca so much, or we love Luca so much, we gave him the middle name of Luca.
Now I don't know what I'm going to tell him when he's eight and watching Luca win his
third or fourth title and asking me why did I name him after a Laker and not a Maverick.
This one hurts. I'm not sure I'll ever get over it. Day 1 DF Justin.
Don't love the first name, probably because it makes me think of everything Aggie related.
You know, just down there, sounds close enough, but I think, I truly believe this, especially now the story,
and he's gonna win in LA, and it'll be LA,
I think Luka Doncic is going to be one of the most famous
people in the world in five years,
whether he wants, he's not really built for it like that,
but he's gonna be, and the whole world
will get joy out of him.
More than they would have if he were a Maverick, honestly.
So I think you're gonna be able to look at your kid
and be like, this is exactly how I want you to play sports.
And yes, I mean also yelling at the refs.
Who doesn't love it, folks?
It's a good name for your kid.
He brings joy.
So that name reminded me of Colt Brennan.
Yeah, Hawaii.
Bless up, RIP.
Who needs to be on our death team that we constructed.
Full disclosure, the death team was
started by a buddy of mine when Colt Brennan died.
OK.
Yeah.
What's the death team?
You just got to come up with the best football team
of just deads and it can't be.
It has to be at the age of their death?
I think so.
I think so, yeah.
Because yeah, obviously you would.
Right, yeah.
And it'll get red-grained.
I don't know who's a good old.
Sammy Ball.
Sure.
No, it's gotta be like an untimely,
yeah, at the time of their death.
And Colt Brennan is in the mix for sure.
But quarterback room is pretty stacked.
I know, we might have to move the big,
the hefty lefty to tight end.
Corey Stringer.
That's a good one.
Who's your quarterback room?
Well, you've got the hefty lefty Jared Lorenzen,
but you've also, I mean, you've got Steve McNair.
Haskins.
Steve McNair was retired.
He was still really good.
He was kind of young.
He was relatively young, wasn't he? But
Dwayne Haskins is the other one yeah. Okay and then we got Sean Taylor. Sean
Taylor's a BDs. At pre-safety? Come on. I bet. Boy Eric Turner's gonna play safety.
You don't even know who he is. Nope. Yeah. Browns? Yeah. When did he die?
Cocaine guy. Oh hell yeah we're gonna get him. He's gonna fit right in.
There's quite a few of those.
Late 80s cocaine guy, I think.
Maybe 90s.
Uh, green dot on defense, Javon Belcher.
Okay.
What?
Maybe we don't allow murder sues on the team.
Ah!
Oh, now you're a moral upstanding?
I want the guys that did cocaine, not killed people.
Look.
You got to get on that team however
you got to get on that team, you know?
Clogging up the middle with Jerry Brown?
Yeah.
It's a good one.
I wonder how the kicker game would go.
Dude, way better than you think.
Way better.
First of all, well no, for a moment I briefly contemplated whether Sebastian Janikowski
was still alive.
Because he seems like a guy who would die.
Other birthdays today, former Dallas star Fabian Brunstrom is 40.
Dan.
You and Bob.
I predicted big things for him.
He had a hat trick in his first game.
First game.
Post game show.
And the rest of his career, oh my gosh.
So I had to sell for four more years of this.
I believe we would have ran whoever it was,
Neuendyke, Hull, Jim Nil, out of town,
had he traded Fabian
Brunstrom. He was our Luca. He ended up with 16 more goals in his entire career.
That's awesome.
Three in his first game. He has 19 career goals. Chris Humphries is 40.
Wow. That's crazy.
He just what?
Rarely thought of.
Rarely thought of.
You know what?
I was listening to a basketball podcast yesterday.
Bobby Marks, the cap guy for ESPN,
used to work for the Nets front office where
Chris Humphries played.
And he was talking about a trade talk
that happened at the Chris Humphries Kim Kardashian
wedding.
And I had just completely forgotten Chris Humphreys Kim Kardashian wedding and I come I had just
completely forgotten Chris Humphreys ever existed. She had to get off of that.
Yeah that just doesn't match up. Bad contract. It's a stepping stone though
you know. Tom Tupa is 59. He was a quarterback slash punter.
And he scored the first ever two point conversion in NFL history for the Browns.
Also a Brown, Don Cockroft is 80. Don Cockroft was a toe puncher, straight ahead kicker.
a toe puncher straight-ahead kicker. Like the Browns had a history of this. They had Lou the Toe Groza, straight-ahead kicker, Don Cockroft for a 13-year career,
and then actually I told you guys about Mark Mosley who they ended up signing
late in his career, but he was the last toe puncher kicker I believe, but he was
also the NFL MVP one year
during the strike season.
Go take a look at Don Cockroft.
I just find it funny, in his rookie season,
he led the NFL with 75% field goal conversion rate.
And now that would be like he would be out of the NFL,
correct?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The next three years, 52%, 54%, 53%, and they decided, you know what?
I think he needs 10 more years of a career.
This guy's hitting over 50% of his field goals, and there was never a thought that Don Cockroft
wouldn't continue to be the kicker.
Like if he goes under 50, call me.
Otherwise, Don Cockroft, you have a spot here for life.
Well, he attempted 20 fill goals over 50 yards.
In his whole career?
And he hit four of them.
Well, you gotta give, I mean, probably into half.
Let's see what he can do.
Make a little magic.
But then, yeah, from 40 to 49, he only hit half.
Man.
I bet he was pretty good at those extra points, though.
He missed some of those, too.
So much so that they had to invent a two-point conversion. Yeah. Colin Murakawa, 28. I think Corby once won
like ten grand on him over a colonial bet. Actor Charlie Heaton is 31. That also
might turn out to be racist. I just remember it was an Asian golfer. That, of course, was Jonathan Will Byers' brother in Stranger
Things.
Also, I believe coming back for its final season, but the kids
from Stranger Things are literally in their mid-20s.
See, here's... And this is a big problem.
The problem when you start a show with kids is that if you keep it going they're going
to get to a level where it's okay for them to make you horny.
Right.
And now you have a different show.
Right.
So that's like-
Now if, yeah.
Then you feel bad about it.
We didn't follow Hannah Montana to college so she could be at a frat party gangbang.
See I told you I feel bad about thinking she's hot.
But it would be worse if she were still doing that show culturally.
Right, doing that character.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But she is hot.
And the problem, though, is a delay right there,
is because Dan was thinking about Hannah Montana in a gangbang.
Not Hannah Montana herself.
I just want everyone to notice there was two seconds of hang time just want everyone to notice. I was older, I was thinking of me. There was two seconds of hang time
between the next story,
and that's exactly what was happening.
It was either Hannah Montana or Nine
from Stranger Things.
Yeah.
Or Six, or.
Smoke Monster.
Sure.
Just get your own bit.
He's gonna make fun of Stranger Things.
Why don't you just join me?
Don't let him hurt you, you and I.
What if I paid you to watch The Boys? Would you watch it?
Probably.
Yeah, okay. I just want to know if you can be bought.
Of course.
Kathy Najimy is 68. That's Peggy in King of the Hill.
Oh wow, Clayton.
Axel Rose 63 and Rick Astley is 59. Great bit. Oh yeah. Wonderful internet bit. I hope he makes money off that although I'm
certain he doesn't. Just Rick rolled. Like I hope at least the Spotify and Apple
and everything hits.
Made it worth it.
That just, that just harkens you back to a great time of the internet.
Much simpler time.
Oh yeah.
You know, remember when getting Rick Rolled to be your thing?
Oh damn.
Maybe a little Two Girls One Cup.
Got me again.
Yeah.
I mean hell.
For our generation, let's, let's, let's grab the Arnold Schwarzenegger sound board on E-bombs and make some prank calls, why don't we?
Those are great!
What do you guys got going on tonight?
Born on this day now dead, Babe Ruth!
Yeah.
Part of a bad trade.
Seen a lot of that recently.
Yeah, but that would be like trading Babe Ruth three years into his Yankee career.
Like they traded him, he was not yet known as Babe Ruth three years into his Yankee career. Like they traded him, he
was not yet known as Babe Ruth. We traded him when we knew it was Babe Ruth. We're like,
yeah, yeah, I know he's Babe Ruth. But the guy, he just won't listen. I want a guy who's gonna do these drills. Hmm.
Uh, 182.6 war.
Is he in, folks?
Uh... Oh shit, you know what we're about to... what's about to happen too, by the way.
Speaking of the halls.
We're about to have Eli talk.
I'm not needing it in my life right now.
Why?
He didn't make the final list, did he?
He's like possibly going to be announced this week.
Okay, well, I'm ready for it.
Let's debate that.
I don't think it's gonna be much of a debate,
but we can support each other.
You think he's gonna be in?
Oh, I think he's gonna be in,
and we're both going to have to say,
I'd really like to remind everyone how absurd this is
Okay
But you'll find out like tonight
Never first or second team never an MVP vote
Not even a vote
Ava Braun born on the stay now dead.
She got a raw deal.
Well, at least she didn't die alone.
It's very true.
She was married.
That's the most important thing.
Rip Torn.
Dodgeball.
I was thinking more of the Larry Sanders show.
That's Artie.
He's also on Independence Day.
And says here Kemp spin next to Bob Marley.
The CIA tried to kill him.
The CIA, the agency that just signed President Biden?
Yeah. They did?
Did you see, he signed with CIA? I swear to God.
No, I mean, I'm not surprised, like given the Obama thing. They probably rep him too.
Like, you know, speaking engagement? Yeah. There's a lot of money in it. No, but the CIA,
there's a lot of talk. That's pretty much just what I do in life whenever there's something that
I'm like, seems fishy. I'm like, CIA. But you know, but you know he was kind of like black well he was speaking against power and and island nation and we were
real fired up on making sure nothing changed in Central America and you know
Caribbean I just did a trump. Central America and Caribbean.
And dead on the stay still dead, we have James Whitmore.
That was Brooks and Shawshank.
Damn.
Institutionalized.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that was Today in History.
Hey, remember yesterday we were talking about
the Mavericks trading Quentin Grimes for Caleb Martin?
Caleb Martin's a little banged up.
Turns out he's like way more banged up.
And so Niko being the genius he is,
Philly's sending us an extra second round pick.
Because the guy he traded to add to his win now roster
can't play for like another month.
Like they put in a run this play and-
Adios, lo-fo.
I'm gonna kill myself.
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