The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 3-12-26 | Christian Parker's impact on Cowboys defense plus Tim Cowlishaw

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

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It's at the Fox 4 building. I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake. I'm Blake Jones. We see Ked. We also have BL Brett Lieber sitting in. Not Jewish. B.L. Brett Lieber, not Jewish.

He wanted to make that clear. He said, make sure you mention that. Anyway, we're here, like I said, we are at the Fox 4 building, a little behind the scenes magic for you. He's B.L. Brett Lieber, but he's also intern Jack sprang from his loins. The only reason we let him in here now. And I feel like people who appreciate Jack. He gave us such a quality intern. Yeah, it works.

Okay, sorry. It's all right. the Fox 4 behind the scenes. You know, before we leave this building, I've wanted to do this for some time. We need to go wireless. We need to do the little camera thingy. What's going on down the hall? Just walk around Fox 4.

It's great. This old barn, if those walls could, you know? It's very cool. There's a lot of history. I've brought both my parents up to this building. And no matter when you come here, there's some level of news going on, right? there's some broadcast situation happening, monitors everywhere,

and they were just so taken by it. They're like, wow, the news. And I think we kind of take it for granted. Yeah, I think more about the ancient, the life of the 50s. The Christmas parties. Yeah, the open-palmed slap on the bottom for the secretary's good work.

People earning their bonuses. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, BL just. said Norm was here and there is a locker. Norm used to work here? Yeah, in some capacity for sure because there's a, there's a locker that still has a name tag or nameplate on it out there.

Really? Yes. Well, one of the treats you get when you go for your pre-show bathroom trip, which Blake and I did kind of at the same time today. We like the sword fight. Cute. is sometimes you will just run into Sean Rab in the hallway. Wow.

But we got the, at least three out of every ten times, you will see Sean Rab holding his gigantic phone out in front of him as if it was a tray. I'm presenting you, I'm just handing out hors d'oeuvres during the party. We're going to have the real meal soon. I'll take one. Yeah, so he's holding the phone. in that manner because I guess

then it's up closer to his mouth because his and the phone is on speaker phone and he is just having one of the loudest conversations you could ever hear. What percentage of the population doesn't know where the phone speaker is

or the microphone? Because some people will just like talk at the screen. Okay. That's not where the speaker is. That's got to be at the bottom, right? It's at the bottom. Okay. But I've seen people talk to the top, the side.

Like if you're going to... But just holding it up, like, I'm not sure where it is. So yeah, let me just get this omnidirectional. He was talking at the screen. That's interesting. You say three out of ten. I have seen him do that, but I see him with a big tooth a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he'll do that. I just say the holding the phone out is a different. Was he videoing? No. Was he FaceTime? Okay. Yeah, no way. No.

No I was going to say that the people who FaceTime aren't the same people who speakerphone Because speakerphone is kind of an older person move People also accuse the community of doing it more And Sean Rabb both a bit older and black guy Yeah Teens get accused of this a lot

Really But now that I think about it Like I feel like Speakerphone Old people are starting to use technology Almost in a way that young people do And by that I mean like olds and teens like both in an uncro my mom for example you know like

uses emojis way more than I would ever think she would she discovered it well yeah oh yeah and I'm like nobody's really doing I don't know if she knows nobody's really doing this does she know the like what the secret meanings of some emojis there's no chance you should educate her yeah I think I've had enough of talking hidden sex code X for my entire life with my mom. Sean Rab? He'll say bruh.

That has to feel a lot better than the security guard boss. What do you mean? Which conversation am I in here? I'm just saying Sean Rab saying bra has got to feel better than when the security guard... Did he bra you or you're just saying he brought his person on the phone? The person on the phone.

Yeah. He's allowed to say brough. For sure. He's a news man. Are you a white writer for the Dallas Morning News? Are you familiar with how he is deployed? within their broadcasts, like, currently? Explain.

The trackdown thing. It's sick. I watch it all the time because I'm a huge fan of the Fox 4 website and the 9 o'clock Fox 4 news, if you want to know where the news comes from on this show. When he does trackdown, like, hey, you know, there's somebody who robbed this store, or, hey, there's two, we're looking for people

who are wanted in this arson. He drives to somewhere in the public, not the police station, and a police officer meets him there. And they have, like, the vehicles, like the Fox 4 vehicle and the police vehicle parked in, like, a fast and furious fashion. And they're both in front of it. And there's almost like the shield-like camera element to it. And it's kind of like shake. And it's not like bad shake.

It's meant to look kind of reality teeters almost. And it's in a public place and you can, like, there's graphics. it's electric. And they give out the phone number, and you can tell that it's a cop he's talked to before. Like they have a guy that's, he knows the bit. And he's like, well, Sean, these two hooligans. Oh, Sean's disgusted.

It's great. Okay, I got to start ingesting that. And they have it, we know the theme. We've played the theme before. What do you mean? They have a theme song? Oh, yeah. Fox 4 bust you?

Yeah, that's cool. And they have a hit rate, man. Yeah, he's great. They get people. We got to get him in here. Won't you do that, Blake? Why aren't you doing anything? On today's program, Blake booked a guest, Tim Kallashaw.

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I'm glad we have a sports expert. So I was thinking this this morning or last night. Do you feel the heaviest sports day of the week seems to be Tuesday? Or is this just in my mind? Because when we get a business Wednesday and we got a business Wednesday and we got a, all this other stuff to do, but you're like, oh, okay, don't have a show to do today. God, I wish we did. This Hawks Magic City thing went down, or there's an 83-point game in the NBA, or all the, I don't know,

it just feels like I'm always thinking that on Wednesday, like there's plenty of material here for a show today, but let's call Sean Kernan from 360 wealth management. I appreciate you pointing out that there's probably some level of dissonance. here like it's misleading you. Right, right. Because that's, I have to think all it is. Yeah. Are there that many more bald people now or is it just that I went bald?

I have to think it's just a cognitive dissonance thing. But one day of the week, let's say of the five work days, naturally of them, one of them does have to be the busiest. I'm deeming that Tuesday. Because obviously the weekend, a lot of stuff happens. For sure. But Tuesday is our mini. Yeah. I don't know. It does feel like we have a lot to clean up when we come in here.

Want to go Cowboys first? Yeah, so when we left, they had signed a safety and they had traded for an edge. And I think it was last, when we last talked, Max Crosby was still anticipated to end up with the Ravens. And that process revealed to us what the Cowboys had offered. Anticipated to end up with the Ravens because everybody announced a trade and we all just started, we shook our or dusted our hands off and then everybody else started making moves under the guys of well Max Crosby's there so we're going to go do this or you know Max Crosby cost this so if he's that good of a player well this player will cost a little less you know whether

it's a trade or first rounders or that really messed a lot of stuff up I would think for sure or like even the Cowboys are in the Max Crosby game and then they're out yeah I don't know. It's just a weird bit. It's very weird and it seems kind of loyery. It makes my head hurt, but people were proposing that the calendar needs to change. Like, free agency would begin officially Monday at noon. This guy that I followed laid this out in a way that makes sense to me. Trades are still allowed to be negotiated before free agency.

But if such a trade is negotiated, it automatically becomes official when free agency starts, meaning the physical has to be completed before free agency. And if not, you just take what you get, no questions asked. So by the time we get to Monday noon, free agency is kicking off, whether or not a failed physical or not. Can't impact him. That is done. The trade is either on or rescinded by that time.

Because, yeah, the Trey Hendrickson thing, the domino, I mean, he obviously still got his money, but the guys might. One of the conspiracy theories is that, yeah, Trey Hendrickson's out there, not really getting any huge, huge offers, but he has an asking price. And then if you're sitting there with this trade that you just made for two first rounders, and you already had the heaviness of history on you when you made that trade, you've never traded a first rounder. And you're, you know, and you're considered one of the best run franchises in the NBA, or excuse me, the NFL. So now, Trey Hendrickson, wait, he's still there a couple days later? Well, what if he fails this physical? And they say you could almost do that with a lot of, you know, what, 50% of the players in the NFL or just a ton of the players.

We'll get a little cleanup, a little something, a little surgery to where you could say you actually, I don't know. Yeah. I have questions about the recovery on this. And their questions were, wait, we're going to have to pay him this and give up the two first rounders. Or what if we go get Trey Hendrickson, we give up just the money and we get those first rounders back? So is it a matter of they just didn't know Hendrickson's level of availability and what that was going to take? Because the way that you're laying it out, there's no reason for them to do this that's not other than just nefarious. Like an opportunity opened and they took advantage of an instrument, a little bit of a crevice that's created by the way the rules

are that most people just it's an unwritten one you just don't do and they were like we don't care we don't we just don't care because the reason not to do it is is just reputation right and like the qualitative people are going to think we suck and i think they'd be right in the long run to say well who cares about reputation like well it depends players will still go there players will still sign there yeah i suppose doing business behind the scenes, agents, with other NFL GMs. I, you know, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't, you know, cut off my nose, spite my base.

I wouldn't do that over talent, but I think it probably matters a little bit. I mean, imagine the Ravens fans don't really care. They got a guy, you know, like however we got there. No, they're loving it. But then, you know, in some ways, that does relate to what the Cowboys did yesterday. and just wanted to spend a minute on the trade of Oso Diggizua to the 49ers for a third. And that's what I had started to say was that when we knew Crosby was available,

we knew what the Cowboys offer was or reported, right? It was a first, a second, and OSA. And so I think that's when we brought up, it's very unlikely. It's impossible that all three of those interior defensive lines. Minard Williams, Osa, and Kenny Clark are all going to play on the number that they're on. Something will happen. And the first thing that happened was Kenny Clark's number got reworked.

And when we were talking it out, I mentioned that one of them would get traded. And you said, there's no way they're going to trade Kenny Clark. Like, he's part of the Micah thing. And the more I thought about that, I kind of thought that, I was like, that doesn't make sense. Because nobody's tied to Kenny Clark. If they can get a better player, nobody's going to remember. remember that it was part of the Micah thing. They'll just look at the new guy as part of the Micah thing.

If the defense is good, it's not going to matter. But what I didn't think about is that the new guy, CP, you ask him about his shoe room? Got 42 pairs of drool. I don't know why that shifted California on me. He does have a relationship with Kenny Clark. A couple years and has spoken. super highly of them.

So I have to say, like, he's the best defensive linemen I've coached in the NFL. And so when it comes to, like, fit, these are topics. Let me tell you something that's really frustrating to me. And I don't, I hear, I heard the one-star guys, Machota will touch on this a little bit. KT2. You'll just hear somebody say, ah, he's not a scheme fit as a DB for Christian Parker. Or Jadavian Client. He's just not a scheme fit.

And in this case, we're talking, OSA is just not a scheme fit. it. And I get that there has to be some level of that. But for the most part, I don't think we know enough about that to say that. Now, I know that. I don't know anything about that. I know a little bit about it, but I don't know enough to know like, oh, this is prohibitive to have this guy on the team because of what they're going to end up asking him to do. But what we do know is that OSA's agent wasn't happy. The way that he was perceiving how they were going to play him, with Williams and Clark. He was already making it known.

Clarence reported a DLS at the Combine. They're not thrilled about how. That's why a little bit of the, hey, he left all this money. Who knows how much it was, but he certainly took less money to stay in Dallas last year when he signed than Washington was offering. And there's the, hey, he signed that deal thinking there was no state income tax.

There is reporting that his agent was making it known. I don't think this is exactly the, this defense is not the defense we want him playing it. So last year? This year. Oh, okay. Coming up. Okay.

And for what it's worth, Iber Fluse is the 49ers like assistant defensive assistant to the assistant. But. Oh, that's right. He just got hired. He did just get hired. And I don't know that that means anything. The Kenny Clark, Christian Parker thing, I think, does mean something.

and if they intend Okay, wait, let me just go back. Like the agent upset he's in this particular scheme as well, or, because it's like the Tyler Smith thing, right? Okay, you're a guard. Now we want to use you as a tackle, but we just signed you as a long-term guard,

so there's a certain salary level. Was there something he was doing here before that he wouldn't be doing, like he wouldn't be getting as many pressures or sacks or is that what we're to understand? Like his numbers wouldn't reflect, wouldn't be as good. Correct. Yeah, that's...

With whatever they're doing, the defensive tackles numbers are not as good. A little bit complicated. But I think it's a good point. The Tyler Smith thing, from what all reports are, when they negotiated with him as a guard, they built in things saying if you become a tackle, almost like we're getting a new deal. Oh, I didn't know that because I only know that because Bob was talking about it at one point on Twitter and somebody kind of did the closest thing to dunking on Bob over it.

So it certainly ended up in group chats everywhere. It was just, I think it was Nick Eatman who was like, hey, there's a reason. This is not a thing. He's not mad about it. Oh. They've got, I'm pretty sure. Okay. But I don't know and would suspect OSA does not have that because that's the guard to tackle is different than like, hey, you're a three tech to a four eye.

That's not the same level of. Okay. That's not what I, yeah, I'm not understanding it. So good. But he definitely would see fewer. They're going to ask him to like play the run a lot more, a lot more. and fill a lot more space and probably have fewer snaps

because they're talking about basically using Quinn and Williams where OSA was last year and Kenny Clark where Quinnon was and if you think about Osa I heard some I love Osa

he's a fun guy every one of those sounds of the sideline you watch tells a lot of dad jokes he's just a goofy fun maniac out there and he's been great values value. But he

did a lot of his damage when Micah was here. A lot of his racking up, you know, the counting stats. So last year, he was double-teamed about as much as any interior defensive linemen in the league. And he had the highest pressure rate against being double-teamed of any interior lineman. But the problem is, when he gets double-teamed, unlike when Micah gets double team

when Micah was getting double teamed there was an OSA there to benefit from that double teaming OSA takes a little less because Micah sometimes is a triple and those triples are different you double OSA it's not quite the same and now there's no

OSA to help with OSA so at some point if you've got the two other guys we just mentioned inside maybe OSA becomes a little bit of a luxury especially at that number, you get a three back for him,

which is basically the comp pick you would have got. It's what you spent on him. You have $16 million in dead money this year, which is not ideal, but it's off your books next year. So you wouldn't have had that dead money this year? No. But you would have paid him $20 million.

So now you're saving four, but he's not here. It's not... You move that to pick up. if you want. No, they're, this, everything you see. I mean, I think they would be a disaster if they lost him now. A disaster. Pickens.

Because they've, they've done enough, like, not really doing much. They're doing stuff, but it's all kind of a push right now. I mean, they signed a starting safety. But that's all they did. They just signed a starting safety, and we're like, holy shit. But it's not, they haven't done anything dramatic. You lose OSSA. It's basically a push right now.

So I'm trying to clear this up. So you're saying with the additions of Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams, OSA would just not get as much sexy time as far as like sacks playing on third down because that's how defensive linemen get paid. So you're saying he's just going to eat space in the middle on running downs? Does that he be relegated to? I don't know if it's fully relegated. I still think when they went nickel 425 when they could, he'd be out there.

But this is where the part that I don't understand is if his agent is saying like I don't want that role, it may be more than just production. It may just be like the players, like I signed a contract to play a different position. To me, it seems crazy for a guy to be like, I thought I was going to be lining up on, I thought I was going to be lining up over the guard, and now I'm lining up on the inside shoulder of the tackle

on 30% of my snaps. And sometimes I'm just a defensive end on the backside of plays. It's going to be doing a lot of that. And I just, for that reason, that I want to be traded. That seems crazy to me. I wish we could talk to somebody who understood it more. But Parker obviously saw him as, I don't, that doesn't, I don't need that.

That's expendable. So they're letting, it looks like, the coach make some decisions. Probably just didn't want three overpaid defensive tackles. Exactly. I mean, that's all it is. And then once you try to find another role for that guy, because there's also probably something too you know you see this in basketball a lot

where you get all the guys and then everybody's like when are they all three going to play together why can't they all three play together but maybe that's not always the best thing and now you got a guy sitting over there on the sideline who is Christian Wood yeah so it's uh it's not great

but I like that they're I like that they're doing stuff They're doing stuff. They were doing stuff last off season too, you know. Ah, this feels... Bringing in Jack Sanborn. Hey, come on, this is year two Ashadi. Now we got Gary.

Rishon Gary's a good... Roshan Gary, this year's Jack Sanborn? Why can't he be this year's DeMarcus Lawrence? I heard Machota make that point, but I think I brought it up to you the other day. Like, I think that now he's making more money, but why can't he be... You know, hey, there's no fit here. Like Jordan Lewis was in, like I brought up the other day for... I'm just going by some stuff I read indicated that Green Bay was thinking about releasing him.

Definitely. And I don't know that Dallas was on the cusp of releasing DeMarcus Lawrence. Well, he was free agent. Yeah, but they traded for him so that they would not have to try to outbid. That's the idea. For good players? Yeah. We don't like that.

That's why they like making trades. The cost is controlled. I saw they also signed Mingo again. I didn't see that, for real? One million. Oh. Like 1.4 or something, but why? Why?

What do we did? We're still? We didn't lose that trade. What are you talking about? We're still chasing the Jonathan Mingo dream? Sam Williams is back. Oh, why? For 3 million?

I thought you didn't want Sam Williams back. I did not at all. Oh, okay. No. Well, 3 million, that's cheap. He might not even be on the team. I don't know what the guarantee is, but. No one else was biting on Sam Williams' hook and...

He's like, yeah. I mean, their edge room right now is pretty thin, man. Yeah. It's pretty thin. We're all very excited about the draft. Well, luckily, no one else is looking for edge in the draft. That'll probably fall to them. It's time for viewer mail, folks, because we've got tons more sports,

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Here's how you get a hold of me. Don't. All right. So of your mail, let's see. I have a bunch. We could go with another follow up on the fake baby bit. I told you I saw a lady, a girl. Must have been a high school kid at my gym with a fake baby.

She was burping it. Talking to a friend of hers. D.H. says when I was in high school, we did a two-week fake baby thing through health class, but we were paired up with a random girl. Hey, no. We had a doll, like was mentioned by others, and we had to take care of it for two weeks. You can imagine how happy our football coach was when a couple guys had to miss off-season workouts because the girl had a soccer game and couldn't watch the baby.

No work got done in any class for two weeks because there was constantly a doll crying or something happening that interrupted the class. It was a huge part of our grade, so everyone had to take it pretty seriously. The whole point was to convince us not to get someone knocked up. Well, that worked. I'm 52, still have no interest in having a kid. Not going to happen. That's from DH.

That's pretty sick. No, I'm very proud of the education system After learning all this I'd love to know how widespread it is Because I've been pretty blown away by the number of people Who are like, yeah, I did that It seems to span decades People in their 50s, 40s, 30s

That did this By the way, did we ever do the You know Joe Judge? He used to be the coach of the Giants Yeah He's with Ole Miss now and he was in court as some hearing or testimony as part of Trinidad Chambliss's eligibility nonsense. And that's, he kind of went viral for basically saying then, listen, if you're with one of these,

I think they were asking him like, what's his life like? And he's like, if you're with one of these players, you know, you need to understand, like, he's not going to be being a father during the season. Like we have expectations for him to be in this is it. It's not. So yeah, that's interesting. The high school level. It's never good when you have to clarify comments.

Is that the first thing that you saw? Yeah. Judge clarifies comments. He just said there's, I was trying to place importance on the NFL players need for sleep and recovery. Very important. That'd be the coolest thing about being a pro athlete is when you'd be able to tell your wife that. You really want to mess with sleep and recovery? Paying these bills.

Apology being O2. As a husband and father of four. Hmm. Fantastic. Horse field. Okay, I got an email from a guy who works in the medical field. He says, another listener and I trained under a guy who trained under this guy. and he linked this guy's website for me.

Very funny name. Okay, his name is doctor. His first name is spelled D-R-O-R. His last name is Paley, P-A-L-E-Y. So his first doctor, Dr. Roar. Yeah. But he's a surgeon. And he emailed after Dan told us about the leg lengthening procedures.

and was it a documentary you had watched? What was the, was it an old one? I couldn't remember the context of you bringing this piece of workup on the show. I don't remember what the context was. It was an old, it was at least a decade ago. Okay, because I found some random one this morning, just like a 30 or 45 minute one and watched it on leg lengthening in India. Oh, yeah.

This was not in India. So this guy. Well, Columbus thought it was. but it was here. This guy who trained with a doctor who did these said he spent a year with the guy. He told us a ton of Middle Eastern princes and wealthy people from India would fly over to have their arms and legs lengthened by this guy. He said the whole thing felt super shady. He only took cash and it was treated like a resort where they would stay months through the lengthening process to have therapy, etc.

Of course, it's in Palm Springs. Excuse me, Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida. you know, Epstein. Prices below, if you're interested on a somewhat sad note, these people have insanely weird proportions since their legs get super long and everything else doesn't change. And I do think he sent some of the prices.

So you can see it there. Whoa. Yeah. Of course they have different packages. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's like a spa. The femur is 104. thousand dollars yeah you're getting two inches if you want the tibia the combo meal so just to get your shin

lengthen is 115 grand why would you just get that well maybe i mean certainly there could be how do they come up with yeah how is it's not 115 for all of them they're like no no no the femur's only 104 000 500 well they're trying to upsell you because yeah you want to buy it as a package Group discount. The highest, the femur lengthening followed by tibial lengthening. This is double there. Palm Beach, Warsaw, or Abu Dhabi. Those are the only places you can get it.

I told the guy where I wrote the guy back, I was like, wow, what company for medical care. But the little documentary I watched. I wonder if it's a lot less in more Warsaw. Well, in India, I was going to tell you. In India, they charge 20. And in this documentary, the guy said 75 to 100 in the U.S. And so that's about what was reflected in the prices this guy sent us. Same thing in India.

The average height is like 5.3. And there aren't, nobody has the money, average person, not even close to to pay for that. But they do have enough crazy, wealthy people to a very small number. And it is, it's the number. gnarliest surgery I've ever seen in my life. Like, you were right. It's just screws. It's just... And then they turn it a tiny bit every day.

Yeah. And then the natural healing process... And they're talking to this one guy. And he's like, there were days I wish I was dead. Like, the recovery is so bad. It's so, so bad. It started with Russian soldiers returning home from war. World War II because of course it did.

Like somehow they figured out with all these limbs that were getting blown around how to had a mess with your joints. So hit us up if you've ever had your legs lengthened. I got a mean email. Mean? Yeah. That's no good. This is from

Cody, who has a problem with our anchored phrases bit. He says, I believe this originated with Blake, no surprise, since he didn't graduate college. Jesus. He says, you idiots have discovered idioms. A group of words established by usage is having a meaning not deductible from those of

the individual words. I don't think that's right. No, it's not. Because I looked up idioms, popular ones are it's raining cats and dogs, spill the beans, break a leg. You use all of those words on their own. We're saying specific words meant for cliches almost. Um, cliche is not the right word, but we've...

Well, you just roasted that guy. Yeah, he's wrong. He's wrong. Words with Dan and xenophobic Blake get a pass. Jake, what the hell? Spill the beans. He thinks that that's similar to us pointing out that a muck is only said next to run. He says, anyways, love the show.

Can you weigh in here a little bit? So I don't have to be the asshole. Like, you're also smarter than I am. No, I think he's wrong. I got a couple anchor words for you. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Latch key.

Kid. Mm-hmm. That's on there. I have consolation. Prize. And then kilter. This is, okay, now this, do you have more? Because these are within another email, and I wanted to read that one.

Yeah, two. Laurels. Can't rest on. You never waking up on it. them. Um, rampant. Rampant? Rampant.

Rampant? Yeah. Rampant. Inflation. Rampant inflation? A&T, right? Okay. That's a close one.

We've done... Lorrell's. Run rampant? Laurel. We've done the ship... No, that's never mind. Now, that is what makes it not one. What?

Like, I was about to say dishevelled. Shevelled. Unhevelled. Yeah. Well, so this guy had thrown in some anchor words, so I wanted to get rid of this one is a sign as well, Clayton. I have some visual on this. Dear Reverend Sum Young Poon. With the talk of pedophilia, all the rage right now, I want to share a sign which has been popping up in front of houses in the South Hills of Pittsburgh.

This is a, is it a politician? It's Peter. A full first name, Peter O'Brien. Oh, no. Oh, no, he's not a politician. It's a realty guy. We all know Pito, Brian. Pito, Brian, old Brian, live down the street. He used to coach the kids team.

Let me tell you something. Hangs out at the playground. This would be one of the weirdest posters I've ever seen if this guy's was his name was Peter Russell, excuse me. Like, describe the poster. Yes, it is kind of a, I guess it's a public service type thing. It's a slow, please, children at play. So you've seen those put up by the city.

But then there's, yeah, pictures of kids on it, and it's by Peter O'Brien, who is promoting his realty company. And like all good realtors do, the little drawings of children are accompanied by a headshot of Pete O'Brien. Yeah, no, it's, if name Pete O'Brien with the little kids playing, You might want to just separate yourself a little bit. Also, this is from Aaron in Pittsburgh, who says Grayson is my leader. Who's Grayson?

Angelo's other benefactor. Yeah. He's the guy that didn't quit. I know. He is offering up a protein ice cream flavor for us. Okay. Didn't we have? Yes.

Because Bluebell now has protein ice cream. And certainly we can go with the, uh, the salty nut. That's fun. Because I will grab the lowest hanging fruit. But he offers up cookies and cream pie. Okay. Yeah. We need to get to work.

What is this along the lines of? Oh, we had like Middle Eastern. Yeah. Yeah. That was a banger. It's the best thing we've ever done. Ice cream money. I have one from Corbyn as well.

Very long email. And he attached some audio, which I think is difficult to hear. So I'm not going to play it. But it's the – he's been to a bunch of soccer games over there, and he's just talking about how the C word is real commonly used. In fact, it's in a chant. Like in the stadium, teams will chant certain things that everybody knows and kids are chanting and everything.

It's – the C word is – Glorious. It's just whatever. It's like the S word, right? It's like a ref – they'll do bullshit chants. Yeah. That can end up on TV. You're like, oh, no, I don't want my little kid doing the bullshit chant.

Come on. I think they think the C word is akin to that. It's like, whatever, yeah. P.S. though. Corbin, this caught my eye. I have a flex I've been meaning to send in. I've been married for 16 years. Right off the bat, we adopted the two comforters policy. They each have a different blanket when they go to sleep.

However, the wife is such a light sleeper in the room has to be perfect for her to fall asleep. no light whatsoever. If she even covers the tiny smoke detector light, and she uses a sound machine. So quickly, I found the solution of sleeping in separate rooms. Now we live in a house that has a similar setup to the den. So I started sleeping up there. Slowly I move my clothes and all my stuff there.

You're dang right, you did. For years now, it's been an amazing setup. We're at bedtime, we go our separate ways. It is the ultimate lottery win in marriage life. I stay up as late as I want. I often wake up early and hang out in my area until the kids and her wake up. How does this affect our sex life, you might ask?

Well, it's also a great life hack because we now almost strictly have daytime sex, which is way better than late night sex. I thought you would appreciate that. That's from Corbyn. Seems like there's more going on there, resulting in the daytime sex thing. I don't know that just moving rooms will get that done,

but I like what I'm hearing a lot. I do too. I like normalizing this. I know. I need to leave this line around the house. Oh, sorry. Oh, I left that email there. It's just for the show. You won't be interested in it. And then, you know, then she'll want to read it.

No doubt. No, no, no, don't read it. This one's from Blake. He's the guy we had super accurately priced. tasty, good if you knew what to expect oysters with in California. Oh, yeah. This guy.

This guy. Dance things in movies that aren't real. People getting news so shocking, they faint. Never fainted before from news so shocking. I don't know anyone who has. None of anyone I've asked. He says, way too much going to the bathroom to splash water on your face to get through a tense situation or high pressure in life.

That's a great one. I'd love to see someone do that. Yeah. Oh, shit. All right. When you're not just totally wasted, you're trying to convince yourself you can drive. Yeah, those are his two best ones.

Oh, he did have a Zook story, which is not a slur. It's an autonomous driving vehicle that... Amazon? Google, Amazon. Zooks. He said they were given out free. rides in Vegas, but my brother-in-law left his phone in the car. So this is something you don't think about. It's hard enough, you know, if you leave it in a

human Uber. I chased it down, but because it was no driver, it didn't know to stop. He had to take a taxi back to the area where we started, but it had taken his phone to their office. He then taxied there by the time he took a taxi back to the strip. His free Zook's ride cost him $130 in cab rides. Great. At least you can you can track it though, not like your dog.

That's true. You can track that phone. That's true. I don't really have a gummy thought in here, but I know gummy thoughts is brought to us by Early Bird CBD. So we tend to do that during viewer mail if you guys have a gummy thought or two.

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We can't put metal inside the microwave, but what's the inside of a microwave made out of? I see literal screws on the inside of my microwave. That is a gummy thought. And then from Cactus. The headline is really the entire Gummy Thought, and it's Texas Stadium used to be a field, was then kind of a field, is now a field again. Okay, it was a field, then they built the field. Yeah, and now it's...

The synthetic grass. Correct. And now it is reverted to a field. At some point, I guess everything goes back to field, you know, I don't know. Like, will North Richmond Hills and Haltham City ever just be? back to like farmland like in a hundred years. If I ever win the lottery, that's what I'm going to do is I'm going to buy big buildings and just turn them back into fields.

That would rule. Like you just drive down Stimmons and it's like, what happened? Why can't we put something there? Local benefactor. He fielded it. Foodie K owns that. Yeah. He's putting local fields everywhere.

He's bringing fields back. Like you'll just put a field where the AAC is, the Mabs have moved, the stars have moved. Yeah. There's a bunch of commerce, but there's just a lot of commerce, but there's just a field there and I'm running cattle on it for the ag exemption. There we go. He's got bees. I got two more, one including a snail mail I received. The first, there's a picture in there, Clayton. We were talking about Don Knott's for some reason. Barney Fife from Andy Griffith, yeah. And maybe if he could, what is a different guy? Wife look like or I don't know. This email from Dirk,

the swim coach, said Don Nott's could pull some wool. Yeah. Yeah, I read a little bit about it. So girls liked money back then. No way. It's not just the money though. Not a good-looking dude. Not a good-looking dude. And even though I just confused him with Gomer, he's giving Gomer. Like he was not the leading man.

He was a fool foil. Yeah, I would say most of the people around Andy Griffith were that. Yeah. That made him look better. But if you go to Don Knott's Wikipedia page, he is described as quite the pussy hound. Incredible. Just like mini-me. I guess if you can get it.

What are you holding? And then my final thing, I received this in the mail this week. It's just an envelope. There's a bunch of people that signed it. It says, let time heal the pain and love heal the heart. May you take comfort in knowing others care. And then in writing, We are sorry for your loss.

Deb will be missed. The Animal Hospital wrote me a sympathies card from my dog that we put down like And they all signed it. Two months ago. Wow. Yeah. Very personal. Very kind.

You can tell that they've been thinking about it. Now in the front, with sympathy and it's paw prints with hearts inside. They didn't know that you're actually happy. No, but then my wife saw the card and was like, we don't even do this for dead kids. Oh. Oh, like because she's a nurse. Yeah. These people care more about animals.

I love your wife criticizing the other place. But very sweet. Thank you. I got to fit these in. Because we have a dumb zone baby announcement. But a little follow up on this because this guy, James, said, I want to thank you for announcing the first dumb zone gender reveal back in August. His wife had emailed and he heard about the gender of his baby on the dumb zone. Isn't that exciting?

It was cool. He said your pronouncement was correct, as my wife gave birth to an 11-pound, 5-ounce baby boy in February. 11? That's big, right? Is that big? I think that's pretty huge. That's massive.

We have a picture of a... Nice. James and Baby, looking back, it's obviously the baby was a byproduct from a burst of patriotism following the successful completion of Operation Midnight Hammer on June 22nd. apparently that was, I looked it up. Is that Libya? Not Libya. No, it's Iran, like taking out their nuclear capabilities. So that's when we already did that.

Oh, no, no, we forgot we did that. Midnight Hammer, though. Oh, I thought that's what he called, like, doing it that night. That's what I thought at first, but then I searched Operation Midnight Hammer. Indeed, June 22nd is when we bombed Iraq trying to get rid of the nukes. Apart from his size, the doctor noted the baby had excellent musculoskeletal health. Yes. Always pun.

That's from James. He says, P.S. My wife knows I am a D.F. She said she is a DFW. Okay. Okay. PPS, where's the handoff? The people, the streets.

They're clamoring. And I have another one regarding Blake. Is it from Alex? It is from Patrick. Okay, you're safe. He says, after listening to yesterday, show. I want to say thanks to Blake for his high school basketball bit on the Argyle Eagle broadcast. Here's what he's referring to, I believe. Let's see. It's Roberson against Murphy in the

isolation game at the top. Drives, kicks to the left wing to Dumfey. Dunphy. Now right side, Lacquamp. LaC. Long three from the top is short. Lackey with the office of board and putback. Five points for J.C. Lackey, as Barbara Hill now trails by just six at 3226. Quickly back the other way, Earhart to Jernigan in the corner. IFA for three, nails the corner three. Time out Argyle. So his one bit, I heard all game. Everything was just straightforward, but then EFA for three-fa.

This guy, Patrick, says, I'm EFA for three-fas dad. No way. Nice. It was great having Blake on the call all year. You were correct. The production quality is better than most professional games. Patrick Jornigan. Dude, we could have been hanging out all this year.

Is her last name Jornigan? Jernigan. Jernigan. Dang it. Hanging out? What were you going to do? Well, we could have driven down to San Antonio together. You don't want to do that. With Patrick, I do.

Got a lot to talk about. Barbara Sill, quite the challenge. Okay. Oh, this could be kind of a drop promotion as well. Then we'll go to break. Beth, not drop Beth. That's very cool, by the way. It's very cool.

That one of the dads listens? Yeah, you probably sometimes have the moments of like why am I? Sure. It's cool. Blake having those moments? Yeah. For the parents. And you know, you shelved all of your more offensive nicknames for that you were workshopping with us.

Beth, not drop Beth. Works as a librarian. She said she just found stratomatic football game and was sending us some information on that thought you would love it. But then ended it with PS. Can't wait to see you all live in person at Zolies on 326. Yes. A fortnight from today.

She says you should bring Kip and Bodie. They have a dog-friendly patio. That's not surprising with Jay, right? Having a dog-friendly patio? We're going to have to up the contract with Jay and Connie Roso and Zoli if they want to Kip and Bodie appearance. That's big time, dude. Appearance right.

Are we good for viewer mail? Yeah. Tim Kalashaw next. I hope. All right. The dumps are. When I buy my wife, at the start, she was cook good, her vajin work well,

and she's strong on plow. But after three years, once she was 15, then she become weak, her voice become a deep, Borat, Morat. She received a hair on a chest, and her virgin hang like sleeve of wizard. Huh, jeez. You're listening to the Dumb Zone.

Yesterday was Business Wednesday. Remember, Blake, or Jake? I do. Thank you, Sean Kernan. Anyway, if you would like to do some business with the Dumb Zone, we were at a lunch with a bunch of people who do sales at dumbzone.com. Generic summer event opportunities abound. One company, do you remember way back when Fairlease emailed that very email address? I do.

And said, hey, would you guys advertise for one of the greatest companies in the history of DFW? and we're like sell us on it. What'd they tell us, Jake? They said, we'll lease you on it at Fairlease. Fairlease.org. We have a phone number directly for DZ listeners now. 972-705-4815. I haven't come up with anything better than 972-705 pizza.

So that's what we're going with. That actually works? I think so. Ask for Connor. I think so. No, I tried it. Ask for Connor. Ask for Nick.

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So check them out, 972-705-4815 Fairlease.org. Joining us now in studio, the Game Day Mencel Studio, downtown Dallas, the Fox 4 building, the great Tim Kalishaw. All right. Hey, Tim. Great friend. Solid round of applause there. Good dude.

My book leader, still reading a lot? Or are you like, no, I don't do that anymore. I'm book 13 this year. Where are we? Mid-March. All right, question. Yeah. Don't ask me what to name the 12 books I've read.

No, no, no. Okay. Yes. Do you do audiobook? No. Do you consider that? It's cheating. It's not reading.

It's listening. It's okay. I mean, you can educate yourself or learn, but that's not reading. So I have a close friend. I'm with you. I'm against these guys. These guys don't know. No, no.

I have a close friend who loves knowledge, loves literature. He is blind fully. I think he's got to learn for real. He's not reading. He's illiterate. Like a blind. person can't watch a movie, right? So he can't read a book.

It's just he's never going to experience what we experience, the greatness of reading a book. True. To be able to build that story within your own mind, to mispronounce words. And truthfully, I'm also not an e-reader. That is reading, Kindles or whatever. I read one book that way 10, 15 years ago and didn't care for it. there was a time actually when my book came out

not to promote my book on here my drunk on sports fantastic book.com I was told at that time more than 50% of the book sales were Kindles and E-readers and it was going all that way and like right after mine came out

first just that format it started shifting back the other way And now there's way more hard copies of books sold than e-books. I can actually read that book now. I think there was a time where I was like, yeah, I read the first chapter and I was like, maybe not right now. When you were literally... You needed to get to a certain point in your life to learn...

Yes. I was definitely that. Have you heard that from people? Like I was too deep in it. I didn't want to read your story? No, no. I haven't really. That was more me.

Although I read two books, one by Pete Hamill, a drinking life. Yeah. And another by a woman's name, I can't remember. 10 years before I, five to 10 years before I stopped drinking when I was on one of my, I'm not going to have a beer for 60 days. Yeah, maybe some yoga. And you feel very empowered when you're doing that. And all of a sudden, I'm better than all these people who are drinking.

Even though I know in my head, I'm going to go right back to it here soon. But, yeah, it was hard. and I had trouble I had trouble watching or listening to interviews with people from Hollywood like an Oscars party or somebody who

somebody said they don't drink and that would always bother me like why don't they drink? Come on, I don't want to be, I can't relate to that. Yeah, I actually specifically remember when I was thinking about the last time we had you on

or the last couple times we had you on I was definitely still in it and I don't think I've seen you since I wasn't And I remember you said something like, oh, I'm going to my, I'm going to visit my daughter and wherever she lived at the time, New York City or something. Yeah, still does. And I was thinking like, what do you do? Like, you don't drink.

Well. It's like, what are you going to, you're going to go to New York City with your adult daughter? Like, what I would do if I went with my dad or my mom, we'd go to a cool bar and we'd find whatever we'd do that for. I remember thinking then, like, what do you even do? My first trip to do? And now I would be, we just went again, sorry, sober.

And it was like, dude, it was the greatest time of my life. No, that's just. There's just. There's so much to do. That's a great point. When you do this, you don't realize it's more than just, okay, I'm not going to have a drink. There's a lot of things in your life, the way you've looked at things. And the first time I went to New York, that's how I felt is like, I don't really know what to do here.

What I'm going to do? Go to my hotel room at 9 o'clock, which is kind of what I do now by choice. But now I love New York. But even for a while after that, I had trouble going to, I've never really had trouble going to bars and not drinking, but I had trouble going to a good bar restaurant that's playing Sinatra. It's like, I can't listen to this and not have a drink. So there are, in Vegas, the first couple times I went there is like, this is a weird place to be to not have a drink. How long has it been?

Sorry. It's okay. Who are you? Who are you? Over there. It has been... I'm the guy that can handle his booze. Yeah.

You set him up for that. Such a heavy drinker, I know. 16 years. It'll be 17 in May. What's the day? May 9th. Okay. Do you remember your day? Yeah, I do. It's my own personal 9-11. 9-11. Isn't that why you got married on that day, too?

Just so I can remember all the shit. It's easier that way. Just keep it all lined up. Do you do anything on May 9th? Do we have some kind of party? No, I post a little thing on Twitter. Do you do anything on your birthday? This was an argument the other day because it was my birthday and I do not care to celebrate that. And like I'm an adult. I'm not a big, like I turned, I think we're all open about our age year.

I turned 70 last year. So I didn't have a. You look awesome. Incredible. Thank you. 71 later this month. Clean living for 16 years. What I know is that means Chris Berman is 70.

because he was the original. I always like to think of people like... Who look worse than you? Yeah. Chris Berman looks... Osama bin Laden. I'm older than he is, even though he's been dead for 10 years now.

But when I read a book about him and saw he was born in 57. It's like, I was born in 55. And Bruce Bochie got a laugh out of it that I was two months older than he was. He was like, you're a 55 guy. He says, yeah, March. He goes, oh, I'm May.

Yeah, I started older than Berman, with Tim Kalishaw, because when I looked up that they were the same age, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, Jake would do a game. He was like 59 years old. I'm like, what? He was on TV at a much younger age. Celebrity that you would see, and they are older than Berman. It was shocking. Jake would bring that up. I get very excited when there's still a coach, like Rick Petino

or somebody who's older than Pete Carroll. It was good to have him back in the league for a year. I'd like to get Belichick back in the league. There's been a couple guys cycle through the NBA, but I really liked when Hubey was calling games. It would have been nice to get Belichick here in Dallas. I'm sure you guys would have hit it off. Oh, yeah. That would have been great.

So great. Have you ever dated anyone that was born like in, I don't know, 1982? 802. Belichick's girlfriend. When was she born? You'd be 43. Oh, really?

Okay, I'm dating myself. You said you read my book, so you must have forgotten part of it. Bill Belichick's girlfriend was born in like 2003. What's go on? Well, when I was in the hospital, talked about my girlfriend visiting me there in Parkland. And she was somewhat younger at the time. Still would be if I knew her.

But not 24 years old to 70. Like, what is Belichick's? Yeah. It's incredible. It was 52 to 28. That's still pretty significant. And how was that? At the time?

Did it actually like make you feel younger or did it make you feel older? Well, it didn't make me feel. older but it was it was very normal to me um i know that sounds bad and whatever but she she was not a typical 28 year old she she was a huge steely dan fan not many people 25 years younger than us but travel all around the country seeing steely dan you're probably both kind of meeting in the middle like late 30s like you're 52 i was yeah but i was trying to be 40 and she was a little, yeah. She was an old soul or whatever.

So, yeah, for, yeah, she was. You could see that at 28. If it was like 22, it would feel a little. Let's not spend too much time here. Yeah. For her sake. Fox 4, though. You said you've been in this building many, I would have assumed.

Yeah, well, many, yes. You've been here over the years for. Once for an interview with Ducey when, when my book came out. It's the only time I've been on with them. on a Sunday night. Oh, really? Yeah. And that's odd.

And that was an interesting interview. How so? He challenged me a little bit, and he said, you know, and he said her name, so I guess I can say her name. He said, you know, Jane McGarry lost your job pretty much because of what same thing that happened to you. You didn't lose yours. Why is that? And I said, because the Dallas was going to do. did know about it.

Because where I got arrested, nobody saw the police report. I was in Greenville, Texas. That's right. And it said William Kalashaw. So nobody picked up on that. Wasn't there a way you kept your name out of the... It was never in the paper or anything like that

until I wrote a column about it. Okay. But, yeah, it never did make any kind of news. One of the small benefits of driving that drunk, you might end up. Driving drunk 40 miles from Dallas. So far away. If you're going to do that.

do it. Yeah. And people know you were heading home? I'm having a small problem. I thought I was going to Coppell and I was in Cato Lakes. Okay. That's probably a bad sign. I'm not trying to take a run of Ducey here, but what business is of yours what NBC5 does?

I know. I think it's a fair question. You worked for. No, but she was more prominent. Big time media guy in Dallas. She got a DUI and I believe lost her. Yeah. Yeah.

At the time. And, you know, why didn't that happen to you? I think it's a fair question. Yeah, I just don't know what you say. Or why didn't I get suspended? Certainly they could have done that. Yeah. Yeah.

Had they known, they might have suspended me for a couple weeks or done something, but they didn't know until I told them. So that's one of the benefits of that. But the better part of this story, the Fox Studios, which I had trouble finding, but eventually got around here, this is where we taped the Jimmy Johnson show back in all those days, 92 and 93. Back when you would meet, hang out with him and have some Hineken.

From here, I didn't drink Hinekins. I drank Hineken's. He drank Hineken's. We went over on the border, which was in the West End, and Rhonda, Jimmy, Ronda and myself, and I would drink Pacificos or coronas or something.

And he would drink Hinekenes. And just a couple and watch whatever football game is on and just talk on those Thursday nights. And so it was in this studio, studio and so yeah that was and the funny thing about that is he when he was going into the Hall of Fame he couldn't remember who the host of the show was and neither could I and we thought maybe it was Paul Crane but we're still not totally sure and nobody dug up any tapes so whoever the host was Jimmy was going to thank him or something in his speech but he

didn't but yeah so he came here many times for that but other than that I've never haven't been here since. So that's really wild. So you're just at the bar with Jimmy Johnson. Are people coming up all the time and interrupting you? People come up. No, but they come up in frequently. The place isn't very crowded usually.

And they come up and he'll sign an autograph and he'll be sort of polite. And unless they say, we're from Arkansas too. And he'll quickly go, I'm not from Arkansas. I'm from Port Arthur. which it's much better to be from Port Arthur than it used to be from Arkansas. Separating yourself from Jerry too there. And then one time somebody came up

and either wanted to shake my hand or asked for an autograph and Jimmy got a huge kick out of that. But no, it was very low key. But I found out it wasn't stuff I'd go right the next day but I learned a lot about the Jimmy Jerry relationship. and failure it was headed towards and all the rest. So when the actual firing or quit or whatever, you actually weren't surprised, perhaps?

I still was because they'd been through a lot, and I didn't think it was getting worse. And like the entire world, nobody walks away from winning two straight Super Bowls with a chance to, with a real good chance to be the only coach to win three in a row, except that's exactly what Jimmy did with the nice push from Jerry.

One of the reasons I wanted to have you in is it feels like we're in a weird time with local sports and you know, you wrote about it all. So I still can't really make sense of the fact that Cuban doesn't own the Mavericks. Despite reporting from one of your colleagues recently that there might have been a bid coming together

to repurchase the Mavericks, it seems unlikely. And it seems, so if it's unlikely that we're removing the Dumonts from the equation, it just seems like we're headed towards a scenario where the stars play in Plano, the Mavs play in, you know, Irving or something. The AAC's done. There's no relationship between the two teams. It just seems like the 2000s, the era of sports I grew up with, is just over.

Like it's just a different time. And I hate that part about the AAC, especially. I moved in 2007 to the building next to the W. I think it's called the Terrace. And I lived there for two or three years before I moved up in the uptown. But so that was five years into the American Airlines Center being built. And all this stuff that was kind of promised for Victory Park hadn't happened yet. and some of it has now, and some of it still hasn't, but most of it has.

And at the time, it was very frustrating, kind of waiting for something other than $300 blue jeans stores to be available or extremely high-end bars down in that area. And now they've built it up and there's restaurants and there's bars and there's, you know, Jimmy Johns and Starbucks and normal things that they originally wouldn't allow there. and in five years it's going to be a it's not going to be a a desert but i don't think either team will be there i don't think there's a chance in hell the stars are staying and and the mavericks are going to have their own place so that building when it hits 30 other than the fact it doesn't have enough parking because of ross pro and because the way that deal was done with cuban

although they've they've kind of massaged that and there's a decent amount of parking but they'd like to have more. Other than that, there's not a ton wrong with that building. It may not be perfect, but it's still, most of when you look around it, it feels fairly new or it feels, you know, relevant. It doesn't feel dated. You understood why Reunion was great. Reunion had no sweets. The last building built of all the arenas around the country without sweets. So you knew its time was not going to last because they needed those. This place has more sweets. I think the Staples Center might be the only place that has more sweets than the AAC. So it just, I find it very, and I like teams being downtown,

and I like being able, whether I'm in Dallas or somewhere else, to walk to restaurants. I hate the idea of the stars being in Plano, but that's where they want to go. And I don't know where the MABs are going to be, but it'll be closer, but unless it's City Hall. And I can't imagine they pull that thing off. they'll be gone too. So I agree with you. It's a very, a very turbulent time for local fans. Why won't they just rip that down and build it there?

Because it couldn't be casino ready and they don't own everything around it? Yeah. The ownership of the land around it is the biggest reason. That's why the stars feel they have to leave. The Mavericks could probably get by with it, but they don't want to get by with it. they want their own deal and their own place. And whether it ever has a casino or not,

they want to own the businesses and the parking and the things around it that they don't own at this time. They're all going to make billions or tens of millions of dollars. But the way I look at it is that, you know, you're turning the knob somewhere between all the way to just F the fans. We're going to make as much profit as we can. Or, you know, we're not worried about, you know, making money so much at all.

And everybody's somewhere in the middle. and I don't think that the people who own the Mavs now give a shit at all about the AAC I don't think they have any tie to it and they're just like When you hear Rick Welts talk about it It's pretty clear he's as soon as he got here Yeah we need a new arena

We need a new building We need this, we need that No what you need is to own the stuff around it Is what you want You don't need a new building We're just in this It's a tough time They don't share those revenues right

Right With all the stuff they own around the building Right that's why all sports teams want that. It's an incredible scam. There's a bunch of teams that have pulled that off in that sport and in baseball, the Braves and the stuff around their place. And that's so one team does that and everybody looks at it.

And go, oh, look at the money they're making doing that. We got to have that. But my question would be the Mavs, the stars have their place up in Plano. The Mavs have a similar size place down here. they all want the building full 300 nights. I mean, there aren't enough concerts coming through to fill all this stuff. What are they, how is that battle going to play out? And what is left at all for American Airlines Center?

The MAF strategy was also different. You remember Jerry Jones strategy was he's going to do something he would never do. He hired Bill Parcells. Like, let's get this team relevant, people talking about them. and then we can get the thing passed and we'll get the stadium for free and all that or whatever. The Mavs are like,

what if we come in and trade the most popular, you know, like let's kind of shit on your best player ever as well in the process, like the Dirk thing. Yeah, we like hard workers

and didn't mention Dirk. I'm, I know your job is your job, so you do cover the Mavs still, but I can't. I can't watch them. I can't do any. I can't support.

You can't say I got rid of Nico and then. Let's not pretend. I'm watching every minute of this team play. Yeah. Just the bigger stories you're aware of. Pretty awful. Yeah, they're awful, but just the supporting them or like, hey, but they got Cooper Flag and let's go.

Come on, guys. Yeah. That's what someone told Dumont. They've got Cooper. Before they bought it is, don't worry, fans. They're always going to come back. They're always going to come back. Rick Welts was probably hired and told them, don't worry, we'll weather this.

They'll come back because they're idiots. And I'm not coming back. I'm not coming back for Patrick Dumont. Even if you go to the positive side and say they've got Cooper flag and look down the road and they can build around that, you've got two teams within 250 miles, Oklahoma City and San Antonio, that are built to win five championships each. They're just going to beat each other to death with all of Oklahoma City's talents and all its number one picks coming. and with what Wembenyama is and what the spurs are, there's nothing the Mavs can do.

They can get lucky and win the lottery again this year. And they're not going to be close to the thunder or spurs level. And then I don't, you know, then trying to build on top of that when they don't have pigs. They're just going to have to make the greatest trades of all time. So it's very, it's very grim in terms of seeing this team contending in the West again, like they would did twice with Luca.

Westman Carverts finals and NBA finals. Yeah, I mean, think of the long road it took to get to Luca into the finals. I mean, and that road was not as long as it is for some other teams. That's the Sixers how picking in the top five goes. The Mavs were only really bad for a couple of years. Yeah, but they had a, they have a gem player that's like one of the next one. I think Luca better than Cooper Flag in the long run. But, you know, they're saying Cooper Flag could be another, you know, generational guy.

But still, it's just not easy. Just, oh, okay, now we get Cooper Flagg. We'll be in the finals in a few years. You've got to do a lot of stuff and figure that out. I don't know about the finals in the few years. Second round of the playoffs in a few years. It's the hardest thing for me, even if they sucked, it's just the ownership group.

And it has nothing to do with politics. It really is just I can't imagine looking at Dumont, again, holding a trophy and being excited. Does that affect you with the Cowboys? No, and I think that this whole thing has been an interesting recalibration of did I not appreciate Cuban enough? And I think I did. You know, we were critical of Cuban quite a bit.

But I think we knew you would always backstop that by saying, like, he does give a shit. He does care. He cared about fan issues that most owners do not. And I felt blessed to live in a city that had that. You know, we don't have the traditions of some of the East Coast city. So having a maverick owner was kind of our thing. And in a sense, that's what Jerry is also. And I don't, you know,

I'm not going to defend Jerry, but I also think he gives a shit. He just, his ego prevents him from doing the one thing that he would need to do to ultimately be successful. But I do think he's passionate about it. I think he's engaged. I think he's fired up. I think Dumont wants to make decisions as if he's engaged and have a voice as if he's engaged and helicopter in and give Mark Aguier his jersey retirement and tell somebody that we're making a trade and then he leaves. I think that's a huge difference. I think we just got stuck with one of the least sports-loving owners in the whole game.

Seriously. And it resulted in what we got out of Luka. Well, speaking of the Jerry situation. Wait, let me, one more math thing. Because you mentioned, I just want to know, do you have some beef longstanding with Mark Stein? Only because when he reported that, we said what you said right away. This is ridiculous.

Okay. Mark Stein had, whatever, it was a report that there's a group of investors. An unknown group of investors was going to get with Mark Cuban and buy the Mavericks. And what we said, or what I said, was, you know what? I've heard that for years. Like, we're going to, hey, I got a group of investors. We're going to buy the ticket. Oh, okay.

Go ahead. Like, no, it's not, first you have to have a willing seller. You have to have a willing seller or you have to have a comment from Cuban or you have to identify the investors or I have to have a quote from the unknown investors. Anyway, so I thought it was just a total non-story and it's turned out to be. Longstanding beef, not at all. I have actually, back when I had star season tickets, I took him to a Buffalo Sabres game or two. He's a massive Buffalo Sabres fan.

And I've known Mark for 30 years. You intimated, not intimate, you said he's Mark Cuban's mouthpiece. I intimated that by typing. By typing you are Mark Cuban's mouth. piece, yeah. Yeah. Or not surprising coming from. And I didn't, and I didn't take that down.

And so, yes. I credit you tremendously for that. Yeah. Because so many people will. A lot of people didn't credit me on Twitter. Mark has about a million more followers than I do. And so they were all over me for about 24 hours. And then some kind of said, hmm, this doesn't seem to be much to this story.

He's already backing away from it. So there were a couple of reasons I did that. And I don't want to get into everything. but it's not, no, I don't have a, he may have one with me after I type that, but I don't have any beef with Stein. I just believe that was clearly a non-story and needed to be pointed out. But he perhaps is one of those guys. Like you, don't you identify certain media guys with, oh, clearly he's getting this from Micah's agent.

Clearly he's getting this from Stephen Jones. Mark's done a really good job of covering Mark Cuban. Okay. Yeah. Excellent job. So you think that came from Cuban? First on a lot of stuff. Just to whitewash Cuban's name a little bit, it's like, oh, look, the hero might ride in on the white horse.

People got pretty excited for a few hours. Yeah, when I first, but then it's also, I'm a little, you know, you're a little upset with Cuban as far as this whole thing is concerned. You sold to these people at below market value. Yeah. Kind of in the middle of the night the way the lucid trade was done. There's no bidding process. We didn't hear about it for months. We were reassured that it was going to be one way.

It wasn't that way. He's got control. We go back and read some of those articles. Jeannie Buss could actually put that in the contract. Read the articles from that time. It's shocking how direct Cubans quotes are of, I am in charge of basketball. I'm in charge of basketball operations. And it reassured us all.

Yeah. And I think he, whether he believed, he obviously put it out there. now whether he really ever had an understanding that would happen or whether he was trying to force that to happen, I think that's the question. I don't think there was ever probably an indication from the new owners that he was going to be that. But he thought if he said it loud enough,

these people are going to let me do it for a couple years. Yeah, Tim McMahon had reported on that a little bit that Cuban would kind of come in the locker room saying one thing and then ownership the next day is like he's not involved. Yeah. But if he did, because he's a smart guy. Right. And if he really wanted that, it would have been written.

Yeah, if he could have gotten it. So obviously he could not have. Yeah. And now they're going to buy more of his stock and he'll have even less say. Although I guess that doesn't matter. If you don't have a majority interest, what difference does it make? Well, that's one story. But also another story is he's now kind of an invite.

that Patrick Dumont will lean on a little bit. Yeah, we're that. I don't know what to buy. That showed up and then all of a sudden it was like, everyone meet Matt Ricardy. Like, to that end, I think that's, I think that's Dumont trying to placate the fans. Okay, we'll call Cuban an advisor and that'll make people happy because everybody here seems to think he knows what he's doing. It's like getting Dirk signing off on hiring this head coach. Right.

Oh, okay. Dirk says all right. Cool. So I am the lone, I guess, shoddy defender. These guys can't stand him. What did he do to make you not stand him? We just don't think he's going to be a successful NFL head coach. We are not good people over here. No. And so while I do think that probably a show like Ted Lassow has a lot of value for a lot of people,

It might be a well-done show. And we... You're not fans. The best way to describe our show is not fans of Ted Lassow. Okay. And he just gives and has the Ted Lassow vibes. But me, I'm at a point of my life now, or I like it. I'm like, I love that this guy's so positive and kind of dorky.

But what I think is fascinating, and you see it now, at least with the higher the defensive coordinator, and maybe some of what they're doing in free agency, he kind of appears to be in charge. he seems to be at least relative to even McCarthy. Yeah. Maybe McCarthy didn't want to be. It's just they have this guy who kind of fell bass backwards into this job. And he seems to be really. They're giving him more rope than.

Yeah. Of the Jones family. Either he or Christian Parker have taken over the entire enterprise. And we'll see how that plays out. My general thing on Schottenheimer was it was a, he didn't show anything in his first year that said, this is really going to work. He took a team that was 7 and 10 and got the coach fired,

and he got DAC for 17 games, and he went 7, 9, and 1. So he got a half game up in the standings. So there was no progress on that front. You want to blame everything on the defensive coordinator? They like to do that around here, do that year after year. That always absolves the head coach. You can do that. But we'll have to see how much better it's going to be this year.

I think his enthusiasm is good. I think I don't know that his offense was wildly different from Mike McCarthy's, but it was successful. They had a much better number two receiver than McCarthy ever had. Wasn't that the point of retaining him so that the offense is not wildly different? He knows the language. Yeah, but I remember in that press conference, there were a lot of times Shottie had to bite his lip when Mike was in charge.

Remember that? That's right, yeah. Had to bite his lip over there. have to bite his lip anymore. So, okay. So, yeah, you're intimating then that we're going to open things up. We're going to do something. And, you know, the office was very successful, but they got a much better running back.

They got George Pickens. The DAC was healthy for 17 games. So I don't know. I don't really feel strongly like he's going, I don't think he's going to be a disaster. I don't think there's any reason to think he's going to be a big upgrade or get this team to a NFC championship game or anything like that. and I think he'll be here four or five years and and then Jerry will make one more higher. One more.

Well, he'll make his next hire. I shouldn't say that. Well, he said, that's why he says stuff like that all the time, which I think gives us license to mention it. He'll bring it up when they're talking about the draft. You know, he's like, I don't know about linebacker. I'm going to die soon. Yeah. He basically just.

He does throw it in there more often. Whoa. But, yeah, I don't know. I wrote a thing this morning. I initially sort of liked what they did Monday, but now this idea that Max Crosby is available, and no, we don't need him now. We got Rishan Gary.

The price has fallen to below what you were willing to pay. You can get him for less than one or two, and now you don't want him, and you just got rid of your second best defensive tackle to San Francisco. What exactly are you doing over there? Yeah, they have work to do for sure. So it's all...

Baltimore gave him a playbook, too. get out of that Rishon Gary thing. Has he had his physical yet? Have we taken a real look at Rishon Gary's knees? Yeah, people would freak. Speaking of that, just real quick, what do you, what do you, why real quick, are we going to a commercial or something? No, I just don't, this is kind of a side road,

but at some point Stephen will be in charge. One would presume. And I think about that a decent amount. Like, what's that going to be like? well, how will he be different than Jerry? He seems to talk less than Jerry. I don't know that he loves putting stuff out there as much as Jerry does. Temperaments a little bit different.

But at some point, you know, he's going to be in charge. And I don't know if that'll mean a bigger role for Will McLeigh. But in our lifetime, probably in the lifetime of this show. Are all these same people going to be involved whenever this is, Will McLean? Well, I guess you hear a lot about the family. Right. A lot of them are football involved. I mean, Spalding's on the website.

John Stevens on the website. I'm pretty sure. On the coaching staff, yeah. So, I don't know. We're so used to Jared. It's been our whole life, our whole cowboy life. It's been a long time, 37 years. You'd have to think you're going to see a time where there's some, I mean, I want like

a succession type here where Charlotte makes a play for G. See, I mentioned that, that I really think Charlotte should be the owner, and I think that'd be great for the league. and good for the team and the toughest person he could put in charge. But I assume it's going to be Stephen. I don't think he'll have two radio shows a week, and I don't think he'll talk after every game. But I don't know that he'll fundamentally change what they do.

And I thought years ago, when I was thinking about this, Stephen will get the team and he'll hire a GM, and it'll be the most popular guy a Cowboys owner could be. But I don't, his GM might be spoiled it. You know, I don't, I don't think that's going to happen. Don't know that, but don't see any reason why he would think he's as adamant as Jerry about, they know what they're doing and they've got the secret sauce and all the other quotes he's had in the last few years. So he's the one who said, talked about the so-called drought.

And who do we blame usually about all the trouble they have with these big contract negotiations? Or is that by design? that Jerry can swoop in at the end and I'll solve this DeMarcus Lawrence thing. Yeah, and I don't think it's just entirely Stephen's fault that when it takes money to get something done, they're really stingy with it. The Cowboys are a cheap organization, just historically,

and I think Stephen has probably inherited that. Same reason we were talking about before Tim got here. They traded for Sean Gary because they don't like bidding for free agents. Yeah. At all. So that's probably passed down. Which oddly has changed over the years because...

The gambler. Yeah, the gambler signs Deon. Were you in that at all? I was not part of the Deon thing. That was during my three years on the Stars beat. So covered him through 94, but I missed the 95 season. You'll have to have Edward on the show for that. Are you featured at all in the documentary of the gambler?

I don't recall. Did they sit down? No. How often do you do that, the sit down with a crew for documentary type stuff, film? I haven't done a lot. It's funny because I was supposed to do one tomorrow with ABC News on a 9-11 thing,

and they just sent me an email saying they're not doing it in Dallas tomorrow. So I got the day off. But I don't, I'm not in a lot of those documentaries. I don't know why I wasn't in the Mustang Mania. Pony Express, whatever they called that, 30 for 30. That was a great one. And I was, I didn't cover the team when they got the death penalty. covered it a couple years before they got the death penalty.

But no, I was not, I was not, I was on a podcast with Werder and Woodson and Goose talking about the Netflix show. It may have, it may have something to do with two years ago at training camp, the guy from Netflix introduced himself and said he's here to do a, a documentary and said what he was doing. And I said, oh, great, another documentary on Jerry. So that response, you know, who knows? It could have been anything, though. Really? It could have made him decide to go with Skip instead and Hansen. So maybe I should have shown more enthusiasm.

Oh, that's fun. Do you want to do any Mark DeRosa stuff or you want to hang it for tomorrow? I mean, I saw you tweeted about DeRosa and I'm... Oh, he's one of my favorite guys to cover. He's one of the greatest guys. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, he's a really nice guy, and he's sharp. He should get all the blame.

Everybody knows what he did, right? I mean, the team got out of it, but thought the team had clinched. Yeah, so. Played the game, his lineup kind of like they had clinched. Here's how, here, first of all, this is where he was on MLB Network or something that nobody really watches, and they're asking him about the upcoming game. You got nine bodies ready to roll today, I would imagine. Absolutely.

I'm going to look at it. And they were saying that like that because they were out the night before partying. Yeah, they stayed up pretty late. He even said that we all got back late. We were dragging. Like he said that. So that's why they're following up. Like, can nine guys play?

Absolutely. I'm going to look at it. I'm going to get some guys off their feet. No question about it. I'd like to get Goldie a start. And, you know, he has been awesome, just a leader of men behind this. But Paul Goldschmidt, by the way, who's like numbers are ass. He's one of the worst.

in Major League Baseball all of last year, but what do you say when a guy does have terrible, he's great behind the scenes, really pumping up the bros. And he's giving him, I'm going to let him start because. Scenes with Aaron, Judge. I'd like to get him in there. I'd like to get Gunner in there again. A ton of respect for Italy.

It's weird. We want to win this game, even though our tickets punched to the quarterfinals because... So that's basically what he said, and that's why I'm starting these guys that suck, and giving them, I just want them to not have to sit on the bench the whole time. They at least can tell their grandchildren I played in the World Baseball Classic. And I guess the starting pitcher, the least experience they went with that night.

In some high leverage situations, I think he had Kershaw up in the bullpen. He had him up and then apparently got the information that they hadn't clinched. And he went to Mason Miller. Right. But initially he had Kershaw up thinking, I'm going to give the old man a little nod here. It's like, wait, oh, we have to win this game. Oh, we're supposed to win?

Oh, geez. Yeah. And when did he figure this out? Sometime during the game. And so that's horrible, and it is, and that's on him. But how does nobody around him, how does nobody involved with Team USA know the rules? Yeah, I mean, I have a question. How is everybody, I don't know their general manager structure, but they have plenty of people.

and others involved with the team. And it's not that complicated of a tiebreaker. How does nobody know that? Like the night before. Doesn't it start the night before when you were having a hotel pre-game beer? We're 3-0. So we're in? Is that right?

How does somebody not know? No. He lied to the media the next. Is this the next day or that night? Let me see what time. I'm not concerned about that right now. I'm just tough game. Great game by Italy.

Jumped on us quick. Yeah, they lost the game. A couple big homers to kind of. stifle a crowd a little bit and just a little we had the right guys that the plate at the right time. See now that's a hey I

yeah I didn't the manager did this is the same as Jerry Jones we've got the players. Were you at that? You weren't on the bus were you? No I don't do the bus okay but he was on the bus it was we the players

are better than you saw last year. Well last year after games it was they're not playing the schemes The players are here. They've got to run the schemes. The coaches got to get them in the right scheme. And so DeRosa here is like, hey, we had Aaron Judge. I pushed the right button.

Just a little, we had the right guys at the right time. Just weren't able to get it done. Good, Christine, the third row. On a television interview today, you seem to indicate that you thought y'all had already advanced to the quarterfinals. Is that true? Yeah, I misspoke. I was on hot stove with a couple buddies today and completely misread. read the calculations. We knew that Mexico is going to play Italy and then running all the

numbers if we lost tonight with the runs allowed and run scored and outs. So I just misspoke. Ken standing on the right. All right. So misspoke and Ms. Red are different things. Yes. And it's. He said both of them in there and only Ms. Red is correct. But it's a lot more than either one of those. And misunderstood it. He's already said, yeah, I'm going to get some guys off their feet. Yeah. Get some of these other guys in the lineup. because we've already punched our ticket. But Tim's point is a good one. This is really not on him at all.

It's on him some. I mean, he's the manager and said it. But there ought to be a whole host of people that know the rule. Tournament offici somebody. Somebody's got to be, as you said, the general manager structure. But if these guys are going out and getting hammered the night before, then there needed to be some level of like general if A happens B. And I don't know that it's the guy who's out there doing his.

hitting your grounders job. The thing is, when you're only going to play, you play four games or five. You play four, right? Four, because they played last night. Yeah. So, you know there's a good chance. There's going to be a tie.

It's probably going to be two teams, three and one. How does the tie breaker work? How do people not know that going in? It's not like it's a surprise. Oh, we got a tie. Who would ever thought of that? Well, that's likely to happen with such a small group of games. So the media angle of this was, I heard MLB Network removed that interview from their website.

Took it down. I think they've put it back up. And then when they put it back, I don't remember which, if it was their Facebook page or somewhere, but they put it back up without that little comment in it. Ah. But then I think they put it back up somewhere else. Yeah. Like, I think they're first putting it back up had eliminated that comment. Their next putting it back up, restored the comment. Like so.

interesting you wouldn't expect a world baseball classic to have this kind of controversies yeah well it's it's really what we're really into yes is the WBC I mean I'd love to win another another one

one our first one another we've won before Japan won the last one right that was a big moment Otani yeah who was pitching maybe Otani was pitching he was pitching to Otani that's what I thought Yeah, Otani was O'Donnie Trout.

Okay, there you go. Oh, that was pretty electric. I think the USA's won before, but I'm not going to swear to it. I'm sure they have. We win a lot. We win a lot of stuff. We're big. So much winning.

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now in Dallas. Saw them in Austin about a year ago. First time I saw them. Okay, well, on the heels of Zooks making its debut in Dallas, Texas is now one of the feds, the government's

testing grounds for their new flying taxis. Go on. Wait a minute. What are we saying here? It's an FAA and Department of Transportation thing for the Advanced Air Mobility Initiative. And it's these electric vehicles. It honestly kind of looks like something from the Jetsons.

It's an urban air taxi service. And I think the idea is that they could do, like Dallas to Austin, Austin to San Antonio. So it's like a, maybe kind of like a bus, San Antonio to Houston. Well, is it airborne or not? It is airborne. It is airborne. It is airborne bus. Yeah. Bus in the sense of it'll have routes as opposed to being. Sounds like an airline. Seems like a plane. But it's just like, it's just a couple people. Like a pilot and a co-pilot. Yeah. I mean, I don't, you're, you're not driving it. It's all the time. Do they say how fast it is?

It does not say. It says here, though. It would be great to be looking down over traffic, you know? Like Jerry Jones does. Now, of course, we probably all thought by now we'd be able to make that 90-minute trip between Dallas and Houston using our advanced Japanese technology on the bullet train. It was really wanting one last weekend when I had to go to San Antonio. Pound for pound, probably the most rendered and never delivered upon project of all times. So many drawings of the bullet train with commuters.

Didn't they like move old farmers out of their land? They're like imminent domaining people. Yeah. Yeah. Like that guy. Yeah. He's like, well, wait. He got paid.

He's fine. Yeah. And it never. It's all tied up in court. Money is. is Blake's leader. Just mine. What about jet packs, though?

The Super Bowl 1 had that guy at halftime with a jetpack flying around the L.A. Coliseum. What about the jetpack is a great question, Tim? That's another thing I thought would be way more prevalent in today's society. Yeah. When I was a kid. I thought we'd live on the moon. Yeah. Or you'd at least be able to take a vacation up there.

Sure. And we'd have jet packs. It'd be great. Be able to dunk. Would that be impressive if you could dunk with a jetpack? No, I meant on the moon. Oh. That's also not that impressive.

The moon, you're not using technology. You're just using gravity. Would there be a different moon? How high would the net speed? That's what I mean. 30 feet? How high, yes. What would the highest?

Who would you bring up there? You'd bring some of the top NBA players up there just to see. No, that'd be the dunk contest they need. To the moon? I think I'd be worried about... Surely Elon can figure that out. Who's the tallest person to ever go to the moon? I bet you it's not that tall because...

Astronauts are generally not tall. Tall people tend to have heart issues. It'd be like really tall people, right? Well, also the space capsule, you don't want a six foot eight. True. You have to retrofit it. Like they did the sub at Little St. James Island for Stephen Hawking. David Scott,

the seventh person to walk on the moon, was the tallest measuring it six foot tall. See? You stuff them in a locker. Yeah. Why didn't they put up a goal? That's a great question. They should have, should have had like, you know, the door at my house with my kids' heights on it?

We could have had the astronauts do the same bit up there. This story comes to us from Houston. I picked this one because it looks very embarrassing. So there's a place down there called Herman Park. just a large Have you been? I know where Herman Park is Okay so there's

There's a You know a small train Yeah not a bullet type train This train here Almost like it looks like Maybe a little smaller Than like the tarantula Over in Fort Worth

But it's in between Like the mini mine train And a real train It's small And it's kitsy looking The train that takes you around Six Flags or something Yeah

Yeah A guy was hit by that on Monday, seriously injured. Was he untying a damsel? Now, that is not an anchor word, but it would be an anchor phrase because damsels are very rarely relaxed. Just having a great time. They are almost distressed. Always distressed.

We have a little anchor word. We're kind of like an NPR offshoot here, way with words. All right. Run. Well, you could tell him a few. Pull some up. He doesn't seem interested. That's not true.

That's not true. He's book guy. You can't read my emotions like that. Have you taken the New York Times AI or human writing quiz? I haven't done it yet, but I saw that out there yesterday. That's interesting, though. Here's a gummy thought. Can a guy who you can't read his emotions read guys who you can't read?

Like, is it your GADAR type thing, you know? Maybe. You're a guy. You can never read Blake, can you? Look at him. He's a pretty closed book. Speaking of books. And there were a couple things you guys wanted to do with him that I said you probably shouldn't.

Good Lord. He's not going to play along. I've seen Tim play this game long enough. I thought he was into that ditty stuff. I might have played. What's the game? Yeah, Dan's right. It was all ditty.

Yeah, it was all like, let's see if we could oil him up. Let's oil up Tim. No, he's not here for that. Oil him up. Anyways, this guy got hit by this train. Does he have the balls? Which I think is an embarrassing train to get hit by. Oh, yeah.

I know it's still very capable of crushing you. How fast does it go? Like, did the guy have one of those hats on the conductor? Yeah, he's actually saying chew-choo as it comes around. He's the other guy that... You can get injured by a lot of things. You can drown with a glass of water. You can call. all 214 or 817 and all threes.

That's right. Frankl and Frankel, they're personal injury attorneys. In fact, if you get hit by a tiny train, like a little bitch. Tiny train, big train. I'll bet this would be perfect for them.

Yeah. Because there's a big corporation. It's their fault. You're having trouble collecting what you deserve. You're in traction. Like you're both your arms are up in the thing, right? In the casts. There's probably no previous law regarding tiny.

trains so you're not stuck with that. You're setting precedent. Yeah. Your nose itches. You're like Martin Luther King. You can't scratch your nose. How are you going to call then if you can't do that? You'll probably have a friend or somebody there, right?

They only need the threes. Or go, hey, Siri. Does anyone do that? Have you ever told your phone what to do? Oh, yeah. I don't, but I see people. I think that's, you know, my mom does it a lot. I was going to say older people.

but like Danny Bayliss. He'll be like, hey, Siri, call Frankel and Frankel. Yeah. What? My phone's calling to Frank. Well, there you go. It's working. Cheching.

This article says Houston's slowest little train hospitalized the man. That's what I'm saying. I just feel like you should. They have a ranking? You shouldn't show your buddies the train that hit you. I got hit by a train. Yeah, that's not even at that. Oh, my gosh.

Dude, I can't believe you made it. You're so tough. Why are you limping? I got hit by a train. Holy. This is a fun one. Blake, where is, um, okay,

I should have looked this up. It's a small town in South Texas. It's called Donna, Texas. And, uh, it looks like it's probably in the valley. It's all,

Hidalgo County. So this story has to do with, uh, something that really blew up during COVID. One of the many benefits of COVID. We didn't get the one that this show, in addition to not enjoying Ted Lassau is built on. We believe that most of the country's problems could be solved by reorganizing the sports calendar. It would create an economic advantage, a social advantage, an entertainment, a distraction.

We had a chance during COVID to change it. And obviously, you know why the players in the NBA want to be off in the summer or the players in this sport want this or that. But if you could just start over, start over. You would never do it this way. And there would be a way where I could watch almost all of the basketball and hockey playoffs

without having to make a decision. And there would never be a time where all I had as a child was Braves' Cubs on cable. Right. There should be more. In any case, one of the things we got out of COVID is it's way easier to get booze. than it was before in Texas. It's still harder than it is in most states. But, you know, you can pick up drink at the restaurant now.

But those, you have to admit. You have to admit this when they have those laws. You get drinks to go? Yeah. Walk in and get an old-fashioned to go? You pretty, yes. They'll put it in a bag. And they'll put a lid on it. And a little plastic cup?

Yeah. See, you can do that now. Yeah. And you used to not be able to do that. And that's, like, back then, that really did deter people. Like, you guys had trouble drinking, didn't you? You couldn't find any alcohol.

There's none to find. Yeah, these guys. I'd go days about it. It's amazing that you guys, yeah, were able to do what you did, despite the laws that are holding you back. Yeah. Well, so most people are not going in and saying. Nobody's crediting you is what I'm saying, and I'm here to say, great job.

Most people were not walking in despite all these laws. And getting a styrofoam cup old fashion. But where this was big is you could get like a gallon. of margaritas or one thing that popped up, you know, there's always been those like drive-thru. You mentioned that enough that I think he's, he has ordered many gallons of margaritas. Oh, yeah. During COVID. Yeah, but I mean, we weren't, yes, for sure.

But. I've just never heard anyone else mention it as much as you. Well, there was. It's kind of long for those days. I'm trying to think about it now. And they weren't like around all the time. Maybe we were just drinking them too fast. But you would have people over.

Listen, I lived right by the 9-11 Memorial with Mesa, the now defunct restaurant. And that's where you go. It's down the street. You could walk there. So you're familiar with like these operations that are, it'll be like beer and ice. And it's a garage door with that and it snacks, that sort of thing. So during COVID, those could really open up what they could sell. Oh, the drive-through beer place.

The drive-through beer places. and there's a chain of them down in the valley that is in trouble because like we talked about the other day they are not a strip club but all of their workers wear like bikinis and because you drive in you know because it's hot down there it's it is that's exactly why and I've seen this before with like it's not skimpy clothing but teen and post-teen girls work at those places. You know, it's just dudes coming in to get beer and dip and ice. And down there, one chain of them was like, why not?

Why not just turn this into, you know, hooters? Why did they get in trouble? Because apparently that, we were talking about this the other day. What was the lingo? For, like, being clothed. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't have a laugh at that, didn't we? there's actual language about like how much of your anatomical areas can be exposed and how much nipple

if you're not a strip call. So were they more exposed than Hooters? The pasty police. I think so. Must have been. Was it more of a Twin Peaks? Where are we? Yeah, but how is that?

How is that? Or Craig Ludwig's restaurant? Remember that was even. I remember hearing about it. They were wearing very, very... Did you ever do shows at Twin Peaks? We, I have, yeah. Yeah.

Were you distracted at all? I mean, it's hooters... Times. Down a level. Down a couple levels, yeah. Down, do you think? Well, I mean, or up, depending on how you're looking at it. Do you consider a hustler to be down or up from Pennhouse?

I mean... It's the question. Consider us. Sufficiently dressed. Like, how do you change the temperature? Raise it or lower it. You know? But then you ever go to Ludwig's?

What was that place called up in Frisco? Do you want to be a high seed or a low seed this Sunday? Exactly. You never... The place that was right by the Rough Rider's place. I thought it was a place... Tilted kill. No.

Yeah. It was called something, but I think Lutty was an investor. I don't know that he had anything to do with, you know, busing tables. With picking chicks? Yeah, but they would wear literally like the lingerie, the real skimpy, like just a little string would barely be covering. That, to me, is what... It felt like too much.

Like, I don't need that close to my salad. That was my cheeseburger, yeah. That's what it is. If we're just putting the cards on the table, is that there's something way more disgusting about stray vagina being involved in food than stray titty. Oh, yeah, yeah. They want to walk around topos. Yeah, and I feel like Hooters keeps everything together on the bottom end.

But if you go to some of these other places, you have no idea. It was the V versus T. You're right. I've never thought about it that way. Hey, thanks, man. But more T, less V. Yeah. That's the motto of our show. Yeah.

Was this the part of the show, Blake, that you thought I... Well, this is the news. We're good. That's a good news. This is strictly news. There you go. There's your news. Just doing news. Yeah. So that's fun.

Wasn't a bit. The dumb zone news. Like and subscribe. That was a good news. I want to do viewer mail bird. It is brought to us by Hello Fresh. You know what Hello Fresh is? Hi birthday. Thank you. Tim, do you know what Hello Fresh is?

I should. Hello Fresh is like a... You should know it for sure. Food prep. Do you live alone? No, I have a wife. Okay, I didn't know that you were married. Yeah, married three and a half years ago. Hello Fresh way better for having a partner.

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new subscribers only varies by plan. I just realized we forgot to try the ice cream. I got distracted. Want to do it after, want to do it for closing remarks? Or you want to do it now? Yeah, just go grab it, Brad. There's ice cream involved here?

Yeah, we're going to try it. Are you an ice cream guy? Unfortunately, yes. When Jake first got out of the hab, he went to rehab. He doesn't have that internal. Not many of us do. Right.

Strength that Tim Kallisha showed. Yep. he was talking about how he's now ice cream guy. Right. And we're going to Andy's and we're going to here. And we're just trying all the different ice cream. And we had a listener of ours, who I think was an alcoholic as well, who said, that's very dangerous.

You shouldn't be replacing it with sugar or what. I don't know. Have you heard that? Yeah, but everybody does that. Everybody does it with something. And then that's when he was like, yeah, well, would it be better to have like, you know, it's kind of like the, uh, Snickers bar.

Snickers. Yeah, someone, workout heads will tell me, you know, eating a banana, that's like eating a snickers bar. I go, I don't know. I don't think so. Like compared to jogging or sprinting. Something, but compared to a snickers bar, a banana isn't a snickers bar. But I also like the feeling of like when we go to another city, I'll find their ice cream place and go there. I just like doing that.

But I also am trying to not get super fat. And we have recently been made aware that because all of the women in the world are going to places like Game Day and are on, they're getting what our president calls the fat shot. GLP. That because of that, that's why all of our food has extra protein in it now. That's why they're selling us protein pop tarts and protein Cheerios and protein pretzels. And now Bluebell is in the protein ice cream game. How much were these per unit, Clayton? I'm a Tompton Rewards member, so they were $4 each.

Okay, that's great. Because the normal protein ice cream is like $8 to $9 a pint. So why don't you start the segment and I'll start eating? Okay, I thought you were going to let us all. Well, there's no spoons over here. There's spoons over here. Oh, okay. Yeah, here.

Why are you yelling at everybody? While we have a sec, Tim, it was Ted Dawson who hosted the Jimmy Johnson show. Was it? Because we talked about that. I didn't feel like it was, okay? You found that? Coffee. Yeah, from this magazine.

I do not want coffee. That's the worst ice cream you can ever have. Televised by 80 and 93. Blake will get that one. Every Saturday night at 630 during the season, produced by Dallas Gallows. Okay. TV and hosted channel. All right.

Yeah, we taped it on Thursdays and they showed it on Saturdays. All right. I'll buy that. I wasn't. I bring my own spoon. I was in my own little room and I asked like two questions, so I wasn't involved with Ted. All right. You just got the hard hitting questions would come from you?

Yes, the journalistic questions. Are we not letting Tim try? I'm not trying. I got four flavors. What is we got? Vanilla. Fine. So this chocolate ice cream is vanilla is full of protein. Read the high protein. So this is good for you. Yeah. So the chocolate has 35 grams of protein, zero added sugars. 340 calories.

Boy, the whole container is 340. That's not a lot. And you get, if you want a one to one, one to 10 protein calorie if you can, that's good. Very nice The salted caramel is 33 The coffee is 34 They have strawberry But I hate strawberry ice cream

So I didn't get it Wow It says zero added sugar It's gluten free It's healthy right Because it's a fruit Yeah All right that's really good

That's very good That works Viewer male birthdays This I started to read on Monday Forgot to read it on Tuesday So it's a belated to dear uncle sleeve of wizard. Tuesday, help me wish happy 30th birthday to Good DF Brian Gray.

His leaders are Blake's mustache, Ted Emmerk's broadcast voice, which is the same as his regular speaking voice. And the clown who was paying homage to his fake dead dad at Super Bowl Media Night a few years ago. Drop request is Jake ripping smelling salts during a Tyler Sagan interview. from the heyday of bad radio. We frequently quote him saying, ah, dude, the moment the salt hits him in the face. No worries if you don't have it. That's from Jameson.

We love Jameson. I couldn't find that. But I searched Jake Salt and I found this. I like where salt is headed. Yeah. I will stand by that. You like where Salt is headed. Yeah.

If you go buy Salt, if you don't do Hello Fresh, and you go buy salt, they have a lot of different types of, of salt now. It's like with mayonnaise. You know, there's Himalayan pink salt. A lot of choices. There's a lot of choices. The game has changed. I think there's protein Bluebell now. 49 on Yucca. That's not bad.

It's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. There's way, that's way worse. Should you eat it website or something? Based on the additives, yeah. What's the number mean? Good or bad. Zero to 100. 100 is good. It's halfway. Which is honestly not bad. A lot of this stuff where it's too good to be true is down 15. 20.

Uca is an app, Y-U-K-A. And it's if you scan the QR code. You need it and you don't need it. Because you're going to find out everything is not good for you. Right. Yeah, I remember the book, eat this, don't that. Your protein drinks are good, but some protein bars that you get that your is aren't. No.

Okay. Some protein bars you get. My protein drinks not good? Of course. It tastes like a chocolate cookie and it has 40 grams of protein. There's no way. Some of the protein bars you get, you're like, okay. How's the Fair Life chocolate drink I had on the world?

This one's good. Fair life's good, isn't it? I'm sure it's not. It tastes too good. Muscle. No. Muscle milk? I know this is not good.

Dear Uncle Dan Peter and the pan clam, today is my buddy Ray's birthday. His wish is to watch Brokeback Mountain with Blake's grandpa or attend a dude perfect show with Blake and Brooks. My leaders are Blake's piss bag and the block by the, movie, Tears of the Sun. Keep slamming your stuff in the furry muff from BPH. Blake went to the bathroom in a

in a Ziploc bag on his drive back from San Antonio. My rationale is a bottle has a really small opening and will fill up in a hurry. So I got a court side. I just don't want any spray in my car. I use a trash bag. Okay. Same thing.

We're cut from. the same cloth. He's lying to use the trash. He's lying. He pulls over like a human. I pull over like three times every hundred miles. Well, I'm not going to cut 15

minutes off my ETA by doing that. A lot of additives in this. Hi, Dan, wishing you a happy bracket season. Oh, yeah. My DF wife and I just had a baby boy yesterday. We welcome into this world with Tuesday's story of your mother's first period playing over the loudspeaker in the operating room. A true tale of strength in womanhood that my wife needed to channel her inner

first female NFL line judge working the early Saturday wildcar game, inspiring stuff. Name rating from Jake. Let's go. Is this a girl, baby? Oh, baby boy. Towns Ray. That's very good. T-O-W-N-E-S is his first name.

I like it. I like the show-off white country names more than I like the show-off weird, adding Y's and L's or X's to your name, you know, Caden, Kaelin, Braylin, Taden. My college roommate was Irish Catholic, so he had naturally had five kids. And he started off with the Kelsey Casey, Klet for K-Boier, and another K-Sand. And for the fifth, which was a girl, he went with Towns-Lynn. because he was a Towns Van Zandt fan. And now I've heard all these people named Towns.

Yeah. It's a, it's a trendy name. Colp favorite, so I love that name. This is from your Denver DF's Cam and Brittany. P.H. PS attached photo of us at the Denver Dumb Zone tailgate with our Brandon Aubrey gear on. Can't wait to buy the Green Bay version next year. Hey, shut up. I don't want to hear that.

that's going to happen somebody got signed right far fairbairn oh did they get a different kicker green bay no the Texans brought back their dude at two for 13 which technically makes him the highest now so just from branded news yeah that's what we track with the cowboys well kicker chart what they got to pay brandon now he's on our show he's a weekly yeah he's your guy he's our guy we will do the show regardless if plus he's the greatest kicker in NFL history. Did you see the last month of the season? That, look. No, we didn't. We chose to ignore it actually. Outdoor games. Those are unfair. There's a lot going on. Oh, there's a lot of unfair things going on.

The whole NFL conspiring against Brandon Aubrey. PPS, it's gay, but thanks to Jared and Jake for sharing their fertility journey over the years. Help us through our own. Journey. Do you like, do you have a, have you had a journey? Have you had a Tim Kalleshaw? Would you consider where you are today? I'm quite of a journey. There's a 100% chance someone set down when they were interviewing him for the book and were like, Tell us about your journey.

Your journey, Tim. How do you... Just makes it sound more important. How do you deal or at all with... I'm certain people come up to you and say, hey, you were in some part why I quit drinking. Like, or you had something to do with like moving me to do with, like, moving me to you? towards that direction.

No, I've had that for 13 years. To say, where's the gift card? Yeah. You want to say thanks, why don't you? Where's the Noble card? Mostly, not verbal, but some. Mostly emails and things on Twitter, but yeah, a lot of people in person, too,

and even recent. So it's nice that, I mean, that book's pretty old now, and people still connect me with that and connect whatever they did with that. And I never really anticipated that because my story was kind of weird and different. That's super cool. Let's move to this.

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Fat fuck. Might not be. just age. Go there, get some peptides, get some vitamin shots. Let's see here. Improves energy levels. Boost, mood, and cognitive function. How's your cognitive function? I think about my cognitive function every day. I did a bunch of neurological tests when I was 64, but that's six years ago now and did really well. But on almost all of it. But, more and more names, the older you get, they just start slipping from you. Actors, you know, a singer, and you just lie in bed at night, or maybe you don't do it, lying in bed at night.

But you think about it like, I don't want to look at up on my phone. I know who that person is. So you're like just challenging yourself? Yeah. And you think for hours, and then you don't think about it. And then when it comes back to you again, you know it. But it's just a thing that happens to you. That's not dementia.

That's old age. that's not a that's something everybody has but it's frustrating 12 area locations we may be able to help you out with that yeah okay game day men's health if you have trouble mention the dumb zone when you go in there the person woman man camera TV test is that what you're uh wait what are we doing oh yeah today in history it is uh Thursday March 12th on this day in 1933 president Franklin D Roosevelt delivered the first of is 30 radio dresses that came to be known as fireside chats, telling Americans what was being done to deal with the nation's economic crisis, which demonstrated the power of radio, or the audio medium.

Let's just say that. It's pretty cool. Now that we're not on actual radio. We're in the audio medium. On this day in 1985, in Nepal, 80 people trampled to death because stadium doors had been locked during a soccer game. the people were seeking cover during a violent hailstorm. But according to the Associated Press story, I have printed off here in my hand. It says here, they were only soccer fans.

So it was not that big of a tragedy in the end. Wow. That's kind of harsh. That is harsh from the Associated Press. They weren't cricket fans. They were only soccer fans. Yeah, that's what it says. Why would that be the only other thing they could?

On this day in 1996. Well, I'm guessing to Paul. I don't think Nepal has cricket. Were you writing columns in 1996? Yes. No. No, I was covering the stars. Stars at that point.

Yes, sir. All right, because you could have had a juicy one on this day. When the Denver Nugget star, Mahmoud Abdul Raouf, was suspended without pay for the rest of the year by the NBA because he refused to stand during the national anthem. Didn't he face the other direction, or did he sit? I don't recall, but he made a scene.

I mean, I don't know. It was a thing. He was a great player at LSU. But suspend without pay for the rest of the years seems. Wow. Very harsh. Okay. We had some rules back then.

On this day in 2003, Elizabeth Smart was found. She was the 15-year-old. Very good documentary. I'm going to say Netflix, but it might be HBO. Elizabeth Smart, not in 2003. Yeah. 15 years old. in 2003.

She was a... She's a Utah kidnappy. She was kidnapped. Vanish from her bedroom nine months previous to this day. She was found on this day with Brian David Mitchell and Wanda Barzzi,

two Salt Lake City drifters. What was the Black Dahlia's name? What... I know that... Elizabeth Short. Elizabeth Short. Is it? Elizabeth Short.

You sure? Yes. Okay. I was all only, I'm very familiar with Elizabeth Smart, but I was not familiar with Elizabeth Short. This looks like an interesting story. Oh, several books, movies. Woman found in L.A. in the late 40s, early 50s,

murdered in her vacant lot, and a lot of stuff's been written about that. Wow. James Elroy, who did L.A. Confidential. Did they ever write a sitcom around it? They have not yet. Aren't you ever amazed that they did around a German prisoner of war camp during World War II? Oddly enough, I had a discussion about this two days ago.

They did, but in fairness, in fairness to the Germans, they treated American prisoners pretty well, soldiers and especially officers. Yeah. So, it was kind of oblivious to how they treated everybody else. I actually heard that this morning because tomorrow I want to talk. I want to talk about the last Japanese soldier I told you guys about. Yeah. Didn't surrender for like 30 years. And I guess I didn't realize the difference between how the Germans treated American POWs and how the Japanese did.

Yeah, you didn't want to. Like the Japanese were get caught over there out of control with torture, murder, rape, like a completely different approach. Well, you had to be the right background to be treated well by the Germans. Right. I didn't treat everybody great. But I just mean like American prisoners, like he's saying, they actually did have like a decent relationship with them.

Yeah. I think I saw once that was... As long as that American prisoner's name was... Yeah, that's true. Yeah. When Sylvester Stallone was in, he played a soccer game. Well... Victory.

It's a great movie. At least I like it. So today is Mark. March 12th. Sports Fior. This day in Dumb Zone history. We've only done one show on this day. So a couple of things from last year.

The first, we had a gay not gay submission. And it was, you missed the person that your friend broke up with. Yeah. Like your buddy had a cool girlfriend. Yeah. I think this happened to Dan. She could roll a good joint or something. Yeah, I'm with this.

Because you're not allowed to be friends with them, really. No. Yeah, but what if he was really cool? I think he has to hit her for you to be able to be friends with her. He has to, wait, which side are we on? Who are we talking about? Well, I'm saying if your buddy hits the woman,

then you can be done with him and just be friends with her. Okay, okay. Otherwise, you can't just be like, oh, you kind of are not. I thought you said if he hits her, then you're going to be friends with him. Right. With him. Prove it, bud. Yeah.

Show me something. And then Dan fights with his wife over rinsing recyclables. You just want to just run it under the water just a little bit, right? I mean, it says it on the recycle bin. It says, you know, we'll take like milk cartons if they're rinsed out. And it feels good. But every time we bring this up, some wise ass who seems like they know emails us and is like, recycling is a complete scam.

80% of it winds up. Trash. No, but Dan's over here. But our little bin that we have in the kitchen. But I always figured, well, so 20% of it's going on something. That's true. That's a good, great perspective. You know, you're doing a little.

You're not doing what you think, but you're doing a little. The little, do we all have like a little bin in the kitchen? And then we take it out to the garage to the big bin. Yes. So in the little bin, she'll finish her Diet Coke, crumple the can and throw it right in there. Okay. And so now, as I'm cleaning it out, like now dripping Diet Coke is in there. It's all dried.

And I'm the guy that cleans everything in the house. So you're my wife in this relationship. But why does it be... Yeah, I'm like, just giving a quick rinse. Why does it need to be clean? I'm the one who hears that how much liquid there was in the bottom of the recycle bins. And I'm like, who cares? It's a recycle bin.

Why do we have to have the cleanest recycle bin in the world? There might be something to people getting attracted to each other who... Sure. And it might all be about rinsing recyclables. Yeah. Or things from that... Because I've never met a couple who were both on the same side. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Like if I lived with Tim's wife, we would have nothing to complain about. You just have sex all the time. We just have sex and everything would be so clean. Blake's house. Blake has an extra female living at his house right now. Did you know that?

He has a sister-in-law living there for like a month. We should just have Tim on every now and again just to tell him about all Blake's life. Right. Hey, he also just broke up with his homeless guy. I don't know these things. He met a homeless guy like a year ago and was bankrolling him. He was giving him $100 a month on a Venmo gift card because the guy was down on his luck. That's what he just gave me.

Yeah. Well, you gave him the bet. Everyone needs a rebound. You gave him Angelo's? He thought I came in looking a little rough. Well, he's having to miss Angelo's birthday party. Angelo? Is his name.

And Blake had to miss that. He's having a party? Yes. Where? This restaurant in Garland. A restaurant. They still let them in. Okay.

And Blake had, he's not paying. Blake had to miss this engagement because he was calling a basketball game. Angelo with a loose grasp on how the playoffs work, wanted to know why he wasn't told of this earlier. And enraged, he broke up with Blake and said, I don't want your money anymore and delete all the pictures you have of me for right now. But so far, he's given the guy like $1,400. hundred bucks and we've had fun with it. We can track what he buys. Do they do this at ESPA?

I don't work there anymore. I don't know. I don't know what they do. They've lost their minds. Wow. Elsewhere, we have other birthdays today. We have Matt Millen, 68. Successful GM.

Kind of the dream, right? Successful GM. Okay, here's an interesting one. So you know we love kickers, Tim. Apparently. Mark Mosley, 78. You certainly know the bullet point on Mark Mosley. Former MVP.

That's right. The first kicker to be an MVP. There will be a only. There will never be another one. We have a guy who's warming up his leg right now and is insulted to not be given a 20-year contract. 10 million a year. Yeah.

Anyway, Mark Mosley, so I was just looking up Mark Mosley today because I knew he was a Cleveland Brown as well, just for a teeny bit at the very end of his career. Straight on kicker. Yeah. The last one, I would guess? One of the last. I don't know if it's the very last.

Anyway, Mark Mosley's sister was murdered. Yes. By a guy named Johnny Paul Penry. It sounds like something I would call my vape. and he's uh he's from texas j p henry is yeah he was uh in prison convicted of rape sentenced to five years back in 1977 released from prison in 1979 served two years and in 1979 he continues is uh the thing he does, he raped and murdered Pamela Mosley,

the younger sister of Mark Mosley. That's pretty horrible. Yeah. So now you know the rest of the story. That's not that fun. Why don't I even bring it up? Do you think you ever kicked people as part of violence?

Like if you were a kicker and you got in a fight, would you be like, well? I don't know. You don't want to hurt your Yeah, that's true. That's your moneymaker. That's true. Merton Hanks is 58 He had a long neck I used to try to do his touchdown

Lake Highlands High School Austin Deculis is 27 Why do you remember him Blake do you remember him? No Is he Ninja? No it's Tyler Blevins Check this out This is why you remember him And finally Rebel jumps on

And takes a little four-yard ride And gets help That was just one big Austin Deculven Again, the third or fourth left tackle, depending, from LSU. They got him in a trade earlier this year from the Texans. And it's all on you now. Man. He sounds like Deculus.

Sounds like it should be a medical implement or something like that. Or something I saw on Gladiator. Give us Deculus. I was going to say. Some Greek. Yeah. All right. Second and five.

So Tim, there's a football game going on. right there, but we're just going to have a bunch of fun up in the booth. Austin Deculis. I hear the top two comedians in the game. I'm guessing a preseason game if Austin Deculis was being discussed. Things got pretty rough this year. No, that was in December, yeah. Things got pretty rough.

Really? Late in the year, yeah, when they were shutting guys down. Goodness. But it's Justin Herbert's fault. Missed his arrival. Dale Murphy is 70. Daryl Strawberry, 64. Sorry, Dan.

I learned to talk to athletes. We had to run in. Darryl Strawberry does not like me, Tim. War games, Dale Murphy versus Daryl Strawberry. Do you know who Dale Murphy is? I don't know much about the career of Dale Murphy. Dale Murphy, Atlanta Braves, two-time MVP maybe? Oh, wow.

Yeah, we all got to know him because TBS. A lot of people have been saying he should be in the hall, and I can't remember if he's ever made it, because just about everybody's been made it at this point. I think he's not. I think he's not. And he's got to be one of the ones who's close to deserving. Then I'll take him over Daryl Strawberry.

I bet we overrate Daryl Strawberry somehow. You're right. Historically. Strawberry had a very brief shining moment. I guess though if you're looking at this war, 46 and a half is Dale Murphy. Strawberry 42.2. So 46 would not be one of the higher war players.

Yeah. Maybe his long job. David he just wasn't there. Nick Kurtz is 23. He is the rookie of the year last year. Big basher for Oakland. Oh, was he on your team? Yes.

And I know they're not in Oakland, but allow me. Sorry, Sacramento. Yeah, now they still play for the Oakland A's, right? They play for the athletics. But I still want to say he could have been, in the same town as Nick Kerr. Yeah. For years. Nick Kerr is

Steve Kerr's oddly named son. Yeah. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Raoul Monasey is 55. Liza Minnelli is 80. Dude, let me read you this note real quick. So Kurtz goes by Big Amish

because he's big and he's from Lancaster, PA, which has a large Amish community apparently. Yeah. After a home run last year, he introduced the celebration of twirling his hands in a circular motion an homage to the tradition of churning butter.

He himself is not Amish, but... I like that. That's great. You can get away with it. Yeah. Aaron Eckhart is 58. He was in a movie called Thank You for Smoking. Great movie.

He's Two-Face in the Dark Night. He was in my... movie that we shot at the Cotton Bowl. Oh, really? The football movie. Yeah. James Taylor is 78. Dan.

How's the windbreaker? I bought a James Taylor jacket for like $80 one night. You know the Jack? Taylor Jack? You know the jacket at a concert that you see and you're like, who's buying that for $90 tonight? Well, he did. He was gold. Is that the, what's the?

Santa Monica Bowl or the Hollywood Bowl or something. Hollywood Bowl? Not the Hollywood Bowl Because that'd be in Hollywood It was north of Santa Barbara Bowl North of Oxnard Or Ventura

Santa Barbara That's called the Santa Barbara Bowl I don't know But that's where Santa Barbara is Okay there's a concert venue That's in the mountain Okay

And it was awesome And I went there with Mike Reiner To see James Taylor And it gets chilly out there It does See about a jacket So I'm like

All right I need a jacket And there was one for sale For 80 or 90 bucks I'm like, yeah, I'm going to buy this. The last time you wore it? Never. Right, that day. I need to wear it again.

Oh, you big James Taylor? Not really. I was at the show. I was surprised by how many of the songs I actually knew, though. Yeah, no, I'm a fan. He's actually got quite a bit. Not jacket fan, but I'm a fan. And then Dumb's on birthday today is an actor, actress, whatever, Louan-L-L-L-U-E-N-E-L.

Write that in. Tell me who that is. She's 67, L-U-E-N-E-L-L. Do you recognize her? Yeah, she's a comedian, right? Yeah, she was Borat's wife. Oh, wait, the prostitute in Borat. Okay, yeah.

The Borat prostitute. There you go. Born on this day now dead, Billy Thomas. Oh, wait. Longhorn receiver? No. He is buckwheat from the little rascals, the real buckwheat. Jack Kerouac

On the road Ernie Zampeze You probably know him Yep 94 Cowboys Replaced Norve And Herb Kelleher

Love Field CEO Yeah the founder of Southwest Airlines Rolling over in his grave Can't believe That's a shit that's happening Sign seating And he lost that

statue. The Rangers took it. How you like the statue story? That's fun. I thought we're going to make it through the show without the statue. A lot of people have been crying out for that. Why don't they have a statue out here blocking foot traffic in left field? What if we could get one that would really fire people up?

Like they could have built a statue probably for the money they paid, right? I don't know. They didn't build pudges either. Did they get the Pudge statue? He gave it to him. The one that was in his house? He was in Pudge's backyard. Yeah.

He gave it to him. We're just doing storage wars out at the ball. Dead on the stay still dead. Woody Hayes and Morton Downey Jr. That is a wild ride. They're all available on YouTube, but I went and watched a few episodes of his show a couple of years ago, and it's electric.

It makes Springer look like. like a PG show. There's a dead I wasn't going to mention, but Tim might know more about this person. Dick Fosberry. Yes. Died on this day. Fosberry flop.

The Faw, okay, it says here, Olympic high jumper, Fosberry flop. I've heard of that. What does that mean? He invented how to do the high jump the way everybody has done it for 60 years. Going over with your back, arching. Going in your back and then you go over,

lead with your left shoulder, whatever, and you flop over. Until then, people were just like running You can kind of do it as scissors as they go over. Like your whole body, like a somersault type of town? And he invented this new way of doing it. It's like, oh, why doesn't everybody do that? And just killed everyone?

They have for it for like, yeah. Somewhere in the 60s. Like beating the records by the. One of the Olympics. I don't know which 68 maybe. Fosbury flop. I knew he'd know. And that's what happened.

God, geez. Sorry. This day in history. I need not know Dick Fosberry. I know about the ice cream. Do you know about poncho? Ooh, I do. Pancho's a restaurant?

I have gifts to give Tint Kalashat. When you need more? Well, we are a big fan of Pancho's Mexican buffet. Could you imagine wearing some poncho gear into Panchos? Would that be a gummy thought? I can barely think of that. It sounds so awesome. You ever do gummy T-H-C stuff or no?

No, I do not. That's not your bit? No. Poncho Outdoors.com. Yeah, we're talking about that. That's P-O-N-C-H-O-Outdoors.com slash dumbzone. That'll get you $10 off and free shipping. These shirts are great.

You've heard us talk about them. You've seen us wear them. They've got a little SPF-50 right in the material there. They don't get wrinkled. They don't show sweat. They got the short sleeve, the long sleeve. Just a very comfortable dress shirt. So poncho outdoors.com slash dumb zone.

Bring you Tim Kalashaw. Yeah, and I have gifts to give Tim Kalashaw. Oh, look at that. We don't give gifts to just everybody. Like he doesn't hand out gift cards to anyone Unless they don't have a house Right Now will he walk to the...

I'm a town home, is that okay? Is that the count of the house? Well, he walked him to the front Like he does all of our female guests We'll see how far... Usually when there's a male guest He'll be like, you know how to get out of here. You just, yeah, retrace your steps.

Not that hard. But a lady does need help sometimes. Do you ever read Sarah Hepelah's book? I have not. No, I know she has a book on her journey. Yeah. So we say, I have not.

It starts out the same as yours. A little different. Talking about Ben and Skin? A little different. No, no, I'm joking. Herst starts out with waking up in the middle of a sex act, right? Pretty much, yeah.

Pretty much. Unblacking out. I don't remember that in mine. That was Tim's as well, yeah. Tim was in a hotel room. That's great. But he was having sex with Ben and Skin? Is that what you're saying?

Yours had to do with being on the Ben and Skin show that day, right? I don't know. I'm trying to remember. I honestly don't know how it begins. Yeah. It's been a while. You should write another one. About how cool it is to not drink.

Yeah, see, you've got to have a relapse to write the second book, and I haven't had one. I don't where I plan to. So, you know, that's, you know, 15 years later, okay, everything's still the same. How do you write? Do you? I don't know. Do you sit and say, oh, man, I got to work now for, like, I'm going to write from 11 a.m. to what, like, do you set yourself a schedule, or do you just kind of?

Columnies for the morning news? Yeah. Or do you just flow? Well, if it, assuming I'm not an event and I'm writing from home, I don't, it's not a prescribed time, but I'm usually writing by 10 in the morning and I try to get them done fairly early. We have new earlier and earlier deadlines, so you might as well get it done and get it to the paper. Oh, really? So, yeah.

Anyway, I have a couple gifts for Tim Kala Shah. Goodness. Here, hand this over to him. We have a, this is a thing that you use to drink out of. Like a Yeti? There you go. One of those? Oh, nice.

I don't know. It's a dumb zone yeti. Okay. Does everybody need one of those? I think that they do. Those are a massive upgrade from giving people a coozy. The cup they can use. And then the book he might have, but it.

If he doesn't. Yes, a copy of the accommodation. Okay. In print. All right, Jim Schutzee. Very good. We printed. You never read that?

No, I didn't. I'm very surprised at that. Yeah. Please put that on your 2026. You can read a lot of books and not have read a lot of things. But, no, I know. But I would say, okay, this isn't an anchor word because I just thought of a couple. Okay.

But if I'm to describe Tim's reading, it would be voracious. Agreed. Almost always As a reader As a reader Yeah Do you feel you're a voracious reader? Probably at this point

I mean 13 books already And it's March Five a month Yeah You're reading more than a book a week What are you on right now Because I've Just even asking Tim

What are you on right now I've read every time He's ever said it And they've always been good books Last one might have been Boys in the Boat I read that. Which is my wife's when read.

I read that at rehab. I just read a book called Five Bullets about Bernie Gets. Have you heard of that book? No. Is he the guy, the subway? Subway. Shooter in the 80s? Everybody kind of knows that story, but they don't really know that story.

They don't remember it correctly. He shot four black teenagers in a New York subway. And became a hero to some people. and when he went to trial, he had a very, very short prison sentence. And the city was very obviously divided at that time. But there were actually a fair number of black people in New York on his side because New York had become such a dangerous place. And between the time he shot them, none of them died.

and it got to trial. Two of them had committed other crimes and gone to jail. So they weren't the most sympathetic figures. But obviously, it was viewed in the light of the 80s. It would be viewed very differently today. They didn't point a gun at him. They asked him for money. And he pulled out a gun and shot all four of them.

Wow. How long did he go away? Like to jail, just a couple years? I think the only thing, I just read it, and I can't remember the charge they convicted him on. He wasn't convicted on any kind of manslaughter charges. I believe it was just illegal possession of a firearm and firearm in the city or something like that.

It was minor charges. And then there was a civil suit, but he did not go away for long. And, you know, 20 years, 30 years later, he's beyond whatever else. as he's a nut and he ran for mayor and he was on Howard Stern show a number of times he became this weird

New York crazy person but who still argues that and never moved which is remarkable never left 14th Street and lived right by the subway and just talked about how much he hated New York and never

left it and it talks about the victims obviously but It's a very fascinating book. I'm in. Ladies and gentlemen, Tim Kallishaa. Thank you for joining us. Stuck it out the whole way.

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