The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 3-30-26 | Baseball is back and Cody Alexander on Cowboys new defense

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneBaseball is back and in a big way with opening weekend with ABS an absolute success. The Cowboys can't beat the Eagles, but damnit the Rangers take down the Phillies in their first series of the season. Weekend check, a cringe interview with Ken Griffey Jr., and Cody Alexander says it's out with the old, in with the new as the Dallas Cowboys hire defensive coordinator, Christian Parker.  (00:00) - Open: Weekend check (30:09) - Cody Alexander: Christian Parker's defense (01:06:37) - Sports: First weekend with ABS (01:35:56) - Rangers win opening series in Philadelphia (01:50:39) - News: An illegal tip pool (02:13:00) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Hello, friends. Happy Monday. It's the Dumbzone. I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake Kim. I'm Blake Jones. What's wrong, man? Well, Blake sent me a text, like right as the show started.

Was it a weaner? Yes. Weiner pick? Again. Yeah. That's your fault. You were like, like we're not going to have an HR.

Blake was like, really? You reap what you sew. Holy crap. In this case, I'm sowing peen. Anyway, welcome to our DFW-based podcast. We are downtown DFW. That doesn't make sense. We're in downtown Dallas at the Fox 4 building.

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Hit them up. Which is in DFW as well. So thank you, GameDay.day.dumzone.com. Why isn't the Midcities tried to glom onto downtown DFW? Well, because Arlington would certainly lay claim to that, right? Like it is the middle of DFW. Yeah. Like this is the greatest spot you could live, Hearst.

I kind of feel like the heartbeat. Yeah. No, you guys to the airport? You're showing your northern bias a little bit, though. Because I feel like Arlington is more centric. Because it ties the south and the north together. I mean, they say that. And that's what Uncle Gary would always say.

We went to Arlington. This is the middle. I don't know. And then you look at the map. I don't know if it's exactly the middle. And also, like, you can't escape the history of downtown Arlington with the World Series parade that everyone remembers iconic. The Guinness Museum. All of the Wax.

That's Grand Prairie. Oh, Guinness is... What's a difference? Anyway, on today's... Okay, on this week's programs, we need to... You know, we'll do the regular stuff, and then Friday, it's opening day. What time are we doing the program Friday from the bus in lot D? Let's start at 11.

We go at 11. I would like to see first pitch. What's the streak? So this is all about Blake. It is. And that's a day that ends in Y. I've been going. I would like to get to the Argyll game quicker.

Oh, 5 maybe? Wow. You've been to every opening day? Yeah. Damn. You're like that old guy that goes to all the Super Bowls. I think I missed one because I had a high school baseball game. But other than that, I've been there every single year.

You can't, don't say that. No one can prove that. Just say you've been to everyone. I've been to everyone. Unless you really, did you rake? Yeah. At that particular game? A little private school.

Yeah. Did you dominate? I did. I would like to see your numbers projected over a 162 game season. Because I was doing that with your softball. the other day. Please stop. He'd have like 400 home runs. Yeah.

Yeah. Dominant. Actually, I haven't looked at your stats lately. Blake's high school sports career allows me to dream about and convince myself what could have been. Even though I know he's a far superior athlete to anything I ever was. Just go to a smaller school. Yeah, you would have wrecked in Christian League. I did have some buddies who were not that far away from me who just by being big and not um downsy we're like pretty pretty productive at tap schools no this was common if we had a dominant

athlete who was like a sophomore they would go to wiley or sacksie yeah and then be back by senior year because they were just average yeah at public school yeah no i remember this uh when we went to the liberty christian game and jub was walking up with this mr argyle himself yep and he's like no that's cool If you washed out of a real football school, I guess you pay to play here. No, it's cool. That's cute. So, yeah, that's Friday elsewhere in the week.

I don't know if there's any real reason to listen. Well, Friday, do we have any sort of action confirmed? Jim Knox will... Did we not want to promote Jim Knox? No, I do. I just said, no, you've been the liaison. I have texted with Jim Knox, which I think the kids today would say I talk to him.

We didn't talk. Yeah, it's not, I don't know that that's worth fighting over quite as much. Is that like reading a book? Yeah, I don't know that it's quite worth fighting. I think talking and texting is not nearly the same thing. I know, but I think now you just have to move the burden of proof to the other side and either say I talked to him or we talked on the phone. To indicate phone now is because it's the less common thing.

I think saying you texted with somebody just sounds weird. It sounds like a robot, don't you? Mm-hmm. who was speaking of that yeah I was I'm contemplating a new word a new world with you know the fly-by-night roofing companies

that aren't as good as call us sure they will I'm getting a text a day hey it's Anna from roof it doesn't even say a company name yeah I've been told us because I think that's some illegal farming what they're doing there

and so I my new move is going to be Dick Pick Pick No, send me a photo So I can prove you're not a robot Oh Just so I can get ladies' pictures That's really good, dude

Of AI women You don't know that I think that's real I think Anna Anna is real You know the AI Not AI but the scam

The fishing scams I think they're really smart At using like hot names To get me to want to click on it It'll be like Brenda Martinez. And I'm like, whoa, what is that? What's your background? Yeah, yeah.

What do we got going on there? Sort of United Nations. Yeah. You know, like just stuff that's just common, not hooker names, not too much, but it's just enough to let you know that they're probably also unhappy in their marriage that's going nowhere. It could use a little something. That's definitely the name. Our algorithm at some point where they'll be personalized.

So here in a couple of years, Dan will start getting. very Indian names. Yes. He'll be very interested at that point. Yeah, I'll take this Senate survey, Sandeep. That's probably a dude's name. I love politics. I think that's a dude's name.

I don't know enough. Me neither. Names from the region. It's totally going to fall for a gift card scam because it's a hot Indian lady on the phone. You can see it. Absolutely. Yeah, I ran into my lady this weekend. Had to go to the dirtiest gas station that exists.

exist in DFW. And she was very happy to see me. Cody Alexander, he will be on the show today. He is a cowboy guy, pretty much internet football guy, match quarters. He's got a substack, and he'll be on to talk cowboys with us in about 20 minutes or so. Before then, we could do a weekend check. Real quick, while you're laying out the week, We do have another guest tomorrow.

Who? I don't even know. Blake booked the... Still working on time. Yeah. But just to get excited about the week, Blake booked the MVP determined by me. Oh, T.J. Hooshman's out of? No, other Hoosh.

Blake texted us this weekend. We got Hoosh for Tuesday. I'm like, I was too embarrassed to text back. That was really for Jake. I didn't know who that was. But we've had him on before, yeah. Yeah, the quarterback of Team USA flag football up there. They worked over the NFL play.

in Tom Brady's tournament. Yeah, that'll be cool. Talk to him again. Because talking to him pre, I wasn't quite positive, but now we're quite positive. He might get to meet RG3? He's better than Tom Brady.

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Dan's live mixing. He's on the ones and twos every day. I'm like, I'm girl talk. No doubt. Weekend check. One thing I did is I ended up opening a sardine can with a fork. Very messy endeavor. What?

Anybody else eat sardines? It's got the top thing that you just. Is it like cat food? Yeah, it's like cat food. But if that little pop top pops off, then what do you do? There's no way you can't use a can opener because the can opener. Yeah. You know, I tried a can opener.

So now I got like a knife and I'm doing this and the kitchen entire mess. But I had sardines on Saturday. Then you contemplate, is it really worth it to get this thing open? Well, yes. And that's where. Well, once you're in the middle, you're down. You're too far. In Sunk cost fallacy.

I didn't know you were eating sardines. Oh, yeah. And I forget about it. That's the oldest thing you do. I forget about it and I think it's intentional. Yeah, dude. It's so bad. That's only for olds?

I mean, my mom said, that's norm. Do you have any... Norm eat sardines? Do you chase it with a plum or something? I don't know. It just seems like the weirdest... All right, don't tell anyone is what you're saying. No, I wouldn't.

I wouldn't. And I think I've kind of memory-holded from when you told me. But yes, it is disgusting. And I feel like that's a high propensity to get cut. Like a gross cut on your hand situation. Yeah, if you're a pussy. I guess I am a pussy. And cat food is expensive enough, Blake.

At least I guess whatever we order, I'm not throwing a can away. So I'm getting it open with a knife. If it's for a cat, yeah. Well, if it's for a cat as high tone as Jake's. No doubt. Yeah. I'm not old. I don't do old things.

I don't do stuff that old people do. That's ridiculous. So I was at the mall. There's your fanny pack in the front of the back. Did you go to walk? What do you think he did? I went to make a phone call. You know, it was cold on Saturday.

Oh, yeah. So I have to call my mom. I wanted to walk. And yeah, so I drove to the mall. And I thought, why not grab a piece of Sabaro while I'm there? Dude, I tour of Italy. Did I miss this? Did you dump Lowe's in Home Depot?

Have you moved on? No, but they get cold in there. Well, I... Oh. No, but I go where I have to... Like, if I need to buy some weed killer, I'll go to Lowe's. But I was a little bit hungry, and I thought I would love a piece of Sabaro. I haven't had one in a long time.

All right. He also needed a new cell phone cover and a 15-minute massage. Sure. I wanted to get some kind of little thing that would hover in the air. Yeah. A little sharper him, and a quick earring. I know you did it last month, but... five-second sit-rep,

mall, still doing great, right? On a Saturday that's overcast and a little chilly outside, it's buzzing. Popping. Now, not every mall, from what I understand that, Lewisville one closed down. Some mall's doing not so good. Yeah. I went to the mall in New Jersey

when we went on the Cowboys trip twice, and malls are doing great up there. Now, the weather sucks, and that's probably why. Right. It's got to be related to the weather all the time. Because mall in America, Mall of America is in Minnesota. host of Radio Row. Oh, that's right.

And the Mighty Ducks. That's right. I went to the food court there. Every day. And where do you want to go when there's seven feet of snow outside? I would love one day to get the interior intrusive thoughts of 22-year-old Blake on the road with Dan and team ticket. We're in a new state and, yeah, let's go to Panda Express. He's just the bewilderment of cracking open life's oyster with all of his heroes.

I forgot about this guy who likes to experience all these different things like eclipses. Ooh. And he's super excited about Brazil. Ooh. Okay, sorry, Dan. Go ahead. So I'm all for a class system that can have me driving in this lane and those who don't want to pay the dollar or whatever driving over in these lanes. but it's getting a little ridiculous.

I have a picture here, Clayton, which is you can now pay for a handicapped parking spot, basically. So they got handicapped spots, and then, like, they have three other spots right next to them, which is called Upfront Plus parking. You park there, and then you have to scan the thing. It's like parking downtown Dallas in a parking lot. but they have three of them in each lane. And so now if you're like, if you're just lazy like me, but not handy, like you're cursing God because you're not handicapped.

You're cursing them because of all your caps. You're like, this sucks. How come these handicapped people have it so great? They get everything. Well, you can get what they get for a small fee. You can now park. You can pay for parking at the mall. It wasn't that your version of Westworld?

Whenever you got to go back and do whatever, you just became a person with Down syndrome. It'd be a funny dream. You are definitely more into Westworld than I am. I'm not sure what Westworld. I think I watched like... Oh, man. As a concept, it's, I think, a great show.

It might have sucked. But the idea that in the future, correct me if I'm wrong, Clayton, if you watched it at all. The idea in the future that you would have so much money and AI would be to a point or VR, you could basically just go back into a different world. You know, you're Sam Altman or Mark Zuckerberg who has infinite billion dollars. They pay whatever.

But I could go into a world as a great as a handicapped person. Right. Or as a Somali guy who just gets an unlimited credit card. Yes, that'd be the funniest outcome. But in Westworld, they decided that these AI females, don't have feelings, so they just got to have their way with them. Yeah, they did not respect women's rights. No.

In that future. Where is this Academy Award-winning show you guys speak of? You would have loved it, honestly. It was just, it was too sci-fi for me. A little bit too sci-fi for me. Anyway. But I think I hate it, but I remember learning about like, what they call it, variable pricing for parking in some cities where it's by demand?

Yeah. That makes sense. The express lanes are here. It's variable by how. Oh, yeah, I mean, I think I might have paid $15 the other day. Yeah, we drove to Alito. That's high dollar. Fort Worth is a high dollar place to mid-cities, too.

You ever drive through there? That's a downtown of DFW. Right, they can afford to charge that with... But even in the very biggest traffic times going down to the comedy... The Akas show the other night. It was huge traffic, but it was only like a dollar and a quarter to get through... Right. 114.

Grapevine. One dollar and a quarter at a time. And your mom's doing okay? Yeah, she's there. I'll let you know if she's not. Okay. Because everybody will ask me, that's the way people ask me about stuff.

Is Jake doing okay? I don't know. Yeah. If he's not, you'll be hearing about it. There you go. Otherwise, everything's fine. I can go pretty quick. I took Brooks to swim lesson Sunday morning

and a certain seven-foot-tall basketball player who won a championship for Dallas was at the same club we were at. And I couldn't figure out how to relay to Brooks how important this guy was. So I looked him up because we are squarely in a space gym phase. I said, this guy right here, his name is Dirk. He beat Michael Jordan three times in the NBA. I didn't know that. Dirk beat M.J. He was three and O against Michael Jordan.

That's crazy. And that's what hit home to Brooks. Wow, he's better than Michael Jordan. Yeah, that is crazy. So he was on the Wizards, obviously. Yeah. Yeah, late career. Doesn't matter.

But still. Doesn't matter because you can't yet tell him. I mean, to me, that is HBO's next real series. You know, they tell all these great stories. They need to tell the story of going through the Trailblazers, the Young Thunder, the Lakers with Powell and Kobe, and the big three,

the greatest sports triumph in modern history. I feel like the NBA community smiles upon that better as we get further away from it. I see like younger kids now being like, what the... And think of how good... K.D., Russ, and Hardin? Kobe was in the finals the year before.

Yeah, he was priming. Oklahoma City would be in the finals the next year. And of course, LeBron is... LeBron and would beat them in that finals. They were in the finals all the time. Yeah. So, yeah. Incredible run.

I can't tell if this is like a, my girlfriend drove a white car, so all I see is white cars. But I saw this across my timeline a couple weeks ago that we wear our AirPods the wrong way. Yeah. They were originally designed to like flip into the top of your ear. Do you have one to show us or anything? I don't have, I don't have AirPods or. Um, yeah.

So I came away thinking and that was just... As a matter of fact? Nice. I thought it was kind of a joke just to see if I'm an idiot and then I would try it. But I saw someone doing it. Okay, you're saying that's the usual air. That's the normal, that's, yeah, the down and then you flip it up in your ear and it sits in your ear canal or whatever. Like that or?

Supposedly. Hmm. Those are the old one. It would need more of, it would need a curve to hook right there, right? The same person who told him to go get all that gas. one time. Similar. But then I saw somebody doing it. Okay, that means they're also

a moron who heard that. It works with the pros because the pros have a shorter stem. Because I have the AirPods pros. And you can tuck them on. You've got the best prices. Talking direct. No, that's, I could

see it. My problem with the AirPods has always been just that it looks like Kumb. It's Ben Stiller, right? Yeah. It just, something about Mary. If that movie had never existed, I never would have thought, boy, everyone looks like they've got

a little dangle of spurt of zoon. Spurtazoa, what did we learn? Yeah. So then you all of a sudden get hungry? Right, yeah. Keep trying to eat my friend's ears. It's a problem. So I told you guys that I filled in pitching last Tuesday

for my nephews' 8-and-under team. Had a blast. but I'm not a coach and I don't want to be I don't know any of these kids I just know my nephew but it took until this weekend to where I'm kind of coaching

because I was out there Saturday You had another game They played two games a week? They played on Tuesday They played on Saturday We practiced last night You have to practice? Of course you do.

I'm running that damn thing How far away is this from your house? Not far five minutes Okay well that's Take the boy You know how like we're in meetings with sales or whatever it is? And I'm always like, hey, don't put more on Blake's plate, please. He's already got enough.

Like, I'm your biggest, you don't even understand. You don't know. You should go back through those meeting recaps. I'm your defender. I'm the only one who defends you. Jake's like, whatever, he can handle it. I'm like, that's not that far off. No, like, let's not everybody run to Blake when you, he's ours.

He's our little thing. If we need something done, we go to Blake. but he just keeps adding shit on his own plate. I keep getting asked. I mean, I had a free Tuesday. I sort of had a free Saturday. I mean, it comes with, hey, you got to watch my seven-month-old. And I know so many people who get asked all sorts of things,

including for money by homeless people all the time. Most of them don't run it for a year. That's the root of my problem. And I love it. I respect you. I cherish your big heart. Because I honestly don't think you're like doing it out of self-interest, which is unique. But.

So you hit something there. Your son was out there and it made you realize I'm going to be a Todd Morinovich. I hope not. But I mean, like with Carter's weekend playing baseball. Yeah, we'll get to that. The biggest hurdle is just the kids don't know what to do ever. And that's what we're going through in practice. And like, hey, you're the first basement.

you can't run and get the ball at second base. You got to stay there. Right fielder, back up the throw, hit the cutoff, these little things that the other coaches were not seeming to point out. So I had to step up and be like, look, let's get down to the fundamentals. Yeah. All right. I don't care if we're 20 minutes late for practice.

We've got to get this down. Yeah. But anyway, no, I'm with you. You take, there's a few things going on here in my mind. One, we take for granted how much just institutional knowledge we have of sports from playing them and watching them our entire lives. So things that seem intuitive to you, especially baseball, which, again,

has always been a little bit of a hang-up for me. It's not a war game. The ball doesn't score. It doesn't move offense and defense. It's complicated. But we all just get it, right? And then the other thing is I've noticed, I think a lot of people sign up to coach

because they're good, like maybe with kids, but I don't think you can coach baseball and not know shit about baseball. You can get away with it in soccer at that age, but you can't have, baseball's too complicated to not have somebody who can explain fundamentals and rules in a very concise, you know, way. I don't teach any fundamentals in soccer. Now, I do have the Colombian, but still. Yeah, I think you need that balance because when we had the whole team around and I just kind of said, look, what we're teaching you now is fundamentals that you'll need to know for as long as you play baseball. Dude, he's cucking these other coaches so hard.

He just showed up because none of them can throw, and now he's leading the team huddle. Well, we need the kids to pay attention. That's first and foremost. And so I'm trying to deliver home, like, this is not in one ear, out the other. Pay attention, this is stuff you need to know. Head coach comes in.

The first thing he says, and remember this, when we're catching fly balls, don't put the glove in front of your face. It feels like there's a disparity there. Like, that's what you want to teach these kids is to not put your glove in front of your face. They have a limited amount of focus here.

Like, that's the one thing. That's the one thing you want to hammer home. Yeah, that seems a low priority. That's why I'm out there. Anyway. No, that makes sense. And then my final thing, I don't think I'm the first husband to do this,

and I don't think I'm the last. I've tried to spice up my marriage. Hey, no. I've had to buy a toy online. Why is he telling you? Well now, yeah. And I've also clicked the Keep Me Up to Date, little box at the bottom, just in case you got a coupon. Well, that just goes without saying.

I mean, there's nothing Blake's going to buy that he doesn't want to get value. So now we know that we're about to get the cutting edge stuff. So when I see a 30% half off, I'll look at it. It's fun for just five minutes. That's stuff they can't move. Yeah. But I got an email from them. a couple days ago.

And I don't think I don't think sex shops should be running Easter coupons. Well, you know. Can you take a weekend off? He wants Rose. Resirect your love life. Had it been that, I might have been okay.

But just celebrate Easter with 30% off the Rose. I don't think we needed that. I don't know. Celebrate. Jesus wanted you to love. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I don't know.

I was a little floored by that. Now. I mean, because they celebrate everything else. Hey, Christmas, Thanksgiving, whatever. Just, can you just let us have Easter? If you cosplay some sort of a crucifixion scenario, that's probably too far in celebration. Yeah. Well, that's your opinion.

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CommunityDFW.com. All right, yes. So joining us now. We'll wrap up the weekend check later because we have to... Is it time to blast blast ball, Blake? Yeah. It might be. It just took you one day of it?

Literally one day. I told you before you started. From matchquarters.com is Substack. He's got a podcast. Let's Talk Ball. Just a guy that I've loved fall. following in the football X's and O space for a long time. He's DFW base.

It's Cody Alexander. Cody, how are you, sir? Feel great. Thanks for having me on, guys. Yeah, man, this is a pleasure. I followed your work for a while. And since we have the time in the podcast space now to get to some other things besides just Cowboys talk, I'm just kind of interested in your journey, your path.

I mean, I assume you come from the coaching world. But it seems like you've really carved out, you know, this. career in this this i don't cottage industry now it's a huge industry of film analysis and even more particularly you're like the defense guy like there were a ton of offense guys a ton a ton a ton of offense guys like if you grew up playing football in texas in the spread area you're like i gravitate to offense but then here you came and it was like you were the the young like guru of the defense is like an active choice like this is a market that's available or were you just a db i i've always played corner my entire life. I was like the one the one fast white kid on every,

I'm everywhere I ever was. So I, I tried multiple times to get to the offensive side. In fact, my dad has a long time been on offensive coordinator forever. And so I tried as much as I could, but I never could. And then, you know, you asked how I kind of got into it. Well, my first foray into coaching was really at Baylor. And I was told very quickly on, do not ask to go to the offensive side because you, won't be able to. That's a family thing. Art Brails doesn't let anybody in. So I just started on the defensive side. So again, every time that I've ever wanted to like switch over to offense, it's always been, you know, God puts me right back on the defensive side. This is where you're going to be.

So that's really where it happened. And like you mentioned that, you know, I coached for 10 years at the high school level and was able to kind of build match quarters into something that I can do full time, which I've been able to do that now for, I think, like the last three years. And it's interesting to me because we've seen the way the game is gone. You know, it feels like most clinic teaching was offense-focused, or at least like to the public. It just seemed like the immediate coverage is offense. Hell, the Cowboys spending its offense.

But in the last few years, it really seems like some of these, you know, younger defensive names have started to, well, whether it's get head coaching jobs, elevated to D.C. jobs younger than before. Christian Parker in the case of the Cowboys, it kind of feels like there's a ground swell of younger defensive guys in response to, you know, the schematic dominance of the offensive side of the ball up through up until the last couple of years. It feels like defense is doing a lot more now. Yeah, and I think it really comes down to my generation.

You know, I just turned 40. A lot of these coaches are kind of it between mid-40s to mid-30s. And I think that generation grew up in the spread. We grew up playing seven-on-seven. I don't know a time of football where I didn't play seven. And I'm from Kansas City. And so even then we're playing seven on seven in the summer, all summer. So, you know, quarterbacks, air raid, all of these kind of the spread.

And I think that's where we are with the NFL is really we're kind of in this post-spread era of the NFL of like they've even realized, hey, we need to use some of these spread concepts. We need to be attacking space. How can we create matchups? and then defenses on the flip side. I think, too, just coming from, again, my generation being curious about what's going on, I want answers to things, kind of that explosion with the Internet and really just having the ability to look up different things. You have resources at your hand. You have answers at your hand.

I think communication, especially in my generation, is a lot less closed off. I mean, defensive coordinators just in general, typically, like you mentioned, they're very old. they don't want to talk to anybody. They don't want their film out there. They don't want anybody. And at the end of the day, like now, I can go on NFL Pro and watch everybody's all 22. I can, you know, TV copies now are getting better and they're moving the camera back. I can see the whole entire field and your safety rotation.

So you're not hiding anything anymore, especially at the NFL level. And I think that's part of the reason why you've seen such a defensive explosion and primarily from kind of that my generation. Boy, hearing you talk to, that's why you should have defensive guys on an offensive staff. This is what I've always just thought, just that you, this was your whole game, like, you know the defense. So put you over on offense. Let Art Bryl say, come on, we can get one non-family member in there because he knows, you know. Yeah, no, it's a great point.

My thing is, like, somebody who played at a very, very low level, very low level is just that I think it's probably because those guys can't teach tech. You're worried that if you're a guy who's drill, drill, drill all the time in defensive technique and you work with corners, like you're not going to be a ton of help on the, I mean, I guess like you could consult more, but that probably happens, right? There's, there's commina, you know what? Communication. That's right. Between the two rooms. But, yeah. And I want to talk about the Cowboys a little bit here because just my path with the game, we're the exact same age.

and I feel like when defenses responded to both pattern matching, split field coverages, when things started to change more after the snap is when I got off the bus, X's and O's wise. And then the Cowboys just hot, and it was fine for me, honestly, because the Cowboys kept hiring extremely boring back-end defensive coordinator. So I cover the team, I write for them, I'm like, almost everything they run, I understand, because it's all, anybody's been running for 20 years. and I never really had to learn anything. And I've heard you talk about how the firing of Matt Iber Flucin moving on

is sort of closing the book on an era. And, you know, the Cowboys had played the very vanilla style, like that that is just, that's over. Can you talk a little bit about like what that system was, what we're moving away from? And then a little bit, I guess, as we get into Christian Parker about how he's different. Yeah. So you've had pretty much that four down front that's been,

primarily there and then it's been very nickel based so you still have a nickel but it's a coverage mentality i think with quinn it was everything wanted to be cover one your change up was tampa two those two kind of married together uh then even with zimmer zimmer didn't do any covers disguise so yeah he was running more coverages but when it was a too high shell and the safeties or even like you knew the depth okay if they're at this level i know it's quarters if they're a little deeper. I know it's cover two or if the corners are rolled up. So for quarterbacks to look out, it wasn't very hard to figure out, oh, the safety is down. I know they're in cover three. So Iber Flues then is kind of the last bastion of the Tampa two defensive guys, like the

old school Tampa two defensive guys. He was very much of just a zone cover three. So what you did was you went from Quinn, who was all cover one, to Iber Flues, who was all kind of cover three. but the front structure has never changed. Everybody knew where everybody was going to be. Hiring Christian Parker is you basically have somebody who is coming directly from the vein of kind of the too high revolution that we saw in 2020 when Vic Fangio and Brandon Staley, who by the way, Brandon Staley coached for Vic Fangio forever,

just said, screw it. We're running everything from too high. That doesn't mean we're running cover two. That doesn't mean we're running quarters. but everything pre-snap is going to look the same. And so that's really where that evolution is. That's why I made that statement of it's really kind of an ending of an era that they're pivoting more towards kind of modernizing that defensive scheme in Dallas.

Yeah, you say it's the Pete Carroll era? Yeah, the Pete Carroll, really, you could argue that Pete Carroll did more to hurt defenses in the last generation than anybody else just because everybody was trying to manufacture that Legion of Boom and that cover three structure where everything looked and was cover three and there just wasn't those adjustments or those backstops or anything was so player-centric that a lot of teams tried to do it and they just couldn't get the same production. So even though you say Dallas has been kind of doing the same thing for a long, long time, what, since Parcells?

It does seem like they do have a remarkable amount of philosophy shifts, though. is that just me as a I'm not as defensively inside as you guys perhaps are but because it does seem like when they hire new defensive coordinators well now we'll let them okay he likes taco charlton we'll go after you know the it just feels remarkable for the for a team that has had the same GM for 30 years to seemingly kind of not really have one way of doing things well I do think to your point about player selection, I mean, I think different coaches want different types of players. And so I think what you've seen is the structure has not changed, but maybe the players that they're looking for, they typically want. Quinn, one of the big issues for the past couple years has always been there's no nose in the middle of the field, right?

The run defense has been absolutely terrible. And as the lineback and core kind of got paired down through just attrition and kind of health and retired. or moving on that you don't have any kind of middle ground and in there. You don't have any nose. So then everything's on the linebackers. Well, when your linebackers are light in the shorts, too, that doesn't really help you. So they kind of went the opposite direction with Quinn of where everybody's going to be light. We're going to really focus and double down on man coverage.

And so, oh, what would happen is that you would, a team like Arizona Cardinals will be able to rush for like 200 yards in you're like, how the hell of that happened? It's like, well, they got in 12 personnel and they just pounded the rock. And it wasn't that, it's not that hard. And so I think to your point, though, yeah, we've had defense defensive coordinators here in Dallas, but the structure has never really changed until now. The philosophy they have seemed to have was they aren't going to spend money on interior defensive linemen, right? They're going to draft those. They're going to let them walk after the few years, whatever, that they have control,

and then they're going to draft more of those and never pay. And that has totally went the opposite now. to and it's all I don't think it was their plan but I think it became their plan after Micah laid on the sideline and the only thing I would say to that and he and I have this debate sometimes I'm more of a, I'm a cowboy fan but I think that certainly they didn't want to trade Micah

but I also think that getting smacked by Green Bay in San Francisco in the manner that they did twice with Micah available certainly was in Jerry's mind of like this might not be the way to skin this cat I mean they were putting allocating high dress path picks on that. Trying to fix that. Yes, but at some point.

They're not ever paying money. No, and I don't think they wanted to trade him, so it's probably a moot point. But they did say something in that press conference, Cody, Stephen, you know, occasionally I feel like the Cowboys do illuminate like some sort of a plan or elucidated. We should give him credit. He said, I think it's easier to scheme up pressure than it is scheming up stopping the run. And I've always thought that. And now they've sort of mirrored that with their personnel.

they've thrown some resources inside. And now we can talk about the thing I really want to talk to you about. And that is safeties. Because that's the other thing that it's just not, it's not something that they've ever invested in at all. Jalen Thompson, a mid or replacement level starter walks in and becomes the highest paid safety they've, I think, ever had, even adjusted for the cap.

So they got 12 and 20. There's so many of these guys available now. My question to you, are we putting different athletes at safety now and we're funneling guys who can be playmakers to safety now more are we just realizing the importance of it more because i've always thought that was a super important position what what is happening here it feels like we're getting more play from that position well you're in an add value league now i think we're starting to see this at every position that kind of has been kind of thrown to the side right running back hey we all want to have a

christian mcalfrey type right got to be a be jean robinson i need a guy that can catch the ball out of the I need a guy that can also be able to run the ball. I think that you see this at linebacker, which is lost and forgotten. But hey, if we have a Fred Warner, we probably need to pay him because he cancels a lot of problems inside the box, but then also in the coverage aspect. I think safety is kind of in that same mold of, hey, we've got to have add value. If you play from depth and you play from a two high shell, one, you need to be a little bit better of an athlete. There's a little bit more of a coverage mentality on it. These guys are not just coming out of like you're a box safety, you're a post.

safety. Actually, you could argue that we have not seen a true post safety, you know, kind of in a while because a lot of these guys are being asked to play from the hash or near the box or, hey, I'm working down. So I think it's just really where we are in the game. This class happens to be super deep at the safety level and pretty diverse. And even at the top end, I mean, The top three safety is Downs, McNeill Warren, and Thineman, depending on who you talk to, they could be a nickel or they could be a hash safety. And I think that's kind of where we're at. And the problem that you find, and this is just football brain in general, is that when you don't have a plan for a guy,

a lot of GMs don't like it when a coach doesn't have a plan. They don't want to get a, you know, a guy, a hybrid guy, put them on a roster, and then we have an Isaiah a Simmons situation where we have no idea what the hell to do with them or Xavier and Collins, which just the air zone tends to be where they land. But we don't know what to do with them, right? So, you know, we're just going to, you know, maybe we'll start him here. Maybe we won't. What I found just in coaching in general is that you don't want to move a guy around. Put them in someplace, fix it. And then if he can't work there, then you move them down. It's always easier to move down than it is to move back. That's interesting. I was going to ask you about that because,

because, you know, Micah was able to really pull off something special with Dan Quinn here in his first couple years. You know, with 200 pass-rush snaps in all of college. And you just look at his alignment chart from his rookie year. It's insane how much they were able to do that. As a former coach, is the reason that we can't just hybrid everyone. It's just too much mental. It's just too much on them to have to be thinking about multiple positions like that. Like, you're saying it's better to put a guy in a spot and play a man.

there. My thought would be if everybody could play multiple spots, you could be more diverse schematically. Like what is that just the tradeoff of any risk reward type thing? Yeah. And really, if you look, data will tell you the, the more you do, the less efficient it becomes just because you're just trying to do a bunch of different things. Meaning the more you do, meaning the more like you diverse, the more you. Right. The more intrepere, the more diversity that you have, your EPA tends to, which is kind of a play-by-play, uh, raw. evaluation. It tends to go up if your defense. So it tends to get worse if you do that. There are some outliers. I think there's really good coaches. Brent Benibble is a great example at

the college level that does pretty much everything and then they're able to do it. But I think guys have very particular positions. And I would even argue, actually, I think I wrote an article about it a while back a couple of years ago about Parsons and his usage. There was always an argument and he played so much better from the edge than he did at linebacker. And yes, he can do it, but it's that argument of just because you can doesn't mean you need to. And so they would basically move him back. He would be completely lost in coverage. He wasn't great tracking the run.

Awesome as a blitzer. So then every time you move him back, you know, by the time, what was it, like year three, by the time they basically were just leaving him at edge and then on third down, they would just move him back just to blitz him on a guard, right? instead of lining him up inside because he's not that big, so you don't want to just kick him inside and get washed. So you line him up as a linebacker, now that it gives them a different look.

But I think it takes a very special player. Guys that you see that can play multiple different things tend to be guys that are super cerebral. Kyle Hamilton is probably the best example of the secondary level. He can literally play anywhere, and he knows it. The other thing that you mentioned there, when you start playing positionless, everybody has to know everybody's position, right?

So how are we adjusting when we have zone? we adjusting when we have man we see motion and shifts on every single play in the NFL level that all compounds when you start trying to move guys around and do things and I think what we saw last year and primarily through my studies early on in this process this year has been there's been too much schematic bloat we need to pare it down we need to get better at the fundamental things that we're doing at and I think that that's kind of the pivot that we're going to see in 2026 they're the Cowboys entire let's see is it everybody I guess they signed a couple of offensive player, but they've signed it.

All of their free agency thus far has been on defense. And trade. Well, trade and then sign. Your thoughts on just what they've done thus far? I think they've done a good job. I still have, I think we're still looking at a situation of where we don't have a linebacker. They need to have a plan for a linebacker. I think they had plans.

I think they wanted to sign some guys. It just didn't work out. I think that they're solid along the line. I would argue this, that I think, the Rams are a great example of you lose a Hall of Famer and you're able to kind of get his production through the aggregate. I think that that's really where the Cowboys are trying with Micah is like, hey, we lost this premier player. That's going to be an engine for us and in pressure. But I think we can get it through the aggregate by getting the right guys in the front.

I think secondary-wise, Ravel will be interesting this year. He's got to kind of show that he can play in that second year. it will be interesting to me too just to see kind of you're not changing anything at the corner room, but can these guys now produce? But I think what you've seen is they have a clear path and they have clear expectations for what they want to be. I think the only whole, I think you guys are going to like Jalen Thompson a little bit more. I know that you say he's kind of like above average. He was actually really an engine for an allowed Buda Baker to do a lot of different things with the with the Cardinals and asked to do a lot of different things. So I think that he's another fit.

I think he's going to be fine for you guys can play near the box too, which I think helps you in the run game as well. But I like the direction that they're going. I think they definitely got better. So that would indicate the draft probably has to focus on linebacker. Linebacker and safety. I think I think you still see that. Yeah.

And I because they still have got to figure out what they want to do at the nickel position. And I think that unless you're going to play a five-man front, it's going to be really difficult for you to have a coverage first nickel. And by that, I mean a guy that's 180 pounds. I think you look at some of the issues that happen for the Patriots when you have, you know, Jones is great. And if he gets his hand on the ball, it's going to be a big play. But you don't want him fitting the box.

Whereas you look across, you have even worry who's at 220 pounds. And they can live in nickel, meaning that you have no schematic advantage, whether you're in 12 personnel with two tight ends or you're an 11 personnel with one tight end. we're going to be able to play our defense and set the terms. And that's why to me, you know, if a guy like Tiananman, or however you say that name correctly, he could be a nickel or, heck, Thompson could be the nickel, right? So I think I've heard you just described,

like the idea of taking a nickel in the first round, a guy that you are saying is a nickel. That would not have happened 10, 15 years. There's no chance. But you take edges who come off the field for 20, 30% of the plays. So the idea of taking a DB that does as well is not, it's not at all crazy. So, yeah, I'm curious about overshone, obviously, and what they think he can be. But I hear everyone keeps saying they need a green dot.

Why can't a safety be the green dot? And does that happen sometimes? In the Fangio system, it does happen. So, I mean, Christian Parker has experience with actually the green dot being the safety. I think it sets the coverage structure up. And then obviously your front is going to be tagged with whatever coverage structure that you have on the back end. So they're going to pair together. Oversone, I think, is going to be used a lot like Bond was used or G.Haw Campbell last year.

Look, he's going to be a moving target on every down. Parker mentioned it in his presser and everybody kind of blew up. It was like even in odd spacing, kind of used coach speak. Everybody's like, well, what does that necessarily mean? We're going to be a three-four. or we're just going to live in a three, four all time. Look, when they go, all they're going to do is walk down overshone. It's the same stuff that the commanders were doing with Frankie Lou.

I mean, Quinn, how was Quinn able to fix his kind of defensive situation and get both of those guys in all pro? It's like, why couldn't you have done that when you were in Dallas, right? But you just walk down a guy. He's kind of an edge, but he's kind of a linebacker. We can do a bunch of different things. We change the front structure really quickly before the line is snapped. I can get into different spacing.

Spacing's just coach term for, do we have our beached? gaps closed or is there a B gap bubble odd versus even and what it does is now it kind of enhances what we can do we can use a little bit more looks but you still have to have a guy I think also to having a guy like overshone if he's going to produce you really just need somebody who can live in the A gap so you're not looking for necessarily a dynamic player you're just looking for somebody that can really hold down in the box and really be solid through the middle then that enhances overshown in his ability to move around, whether it's coverage, whether it's blitzing, or whether it's kind of being dynamic in those ways.

A couple of other quick scheme ones here. I get frustrated. I understand things just enough to get frustrated when I see them covered a certain way, but not enough to understand them. So like, OSA gets traded. And, you know, there's a lot of reports locally that, hey, at the Combine, Osa's agent was letting it know, let it be known. He's not really feeling this system.

And in my mind, I'm like, well, okay. First of all, you mentioned the five-man front, but to me, I don't see why OSHA couldn't just be like a, basically an end now, like a wide five, and why that would be a bad thing for him. I don't know why he had to go. He's a good player on a bad defense. So I think they can, you know, they can definitely still fill that role by playing differently. But it seemed like it was just like, oh, yeah, we've got to move on from OSSA. And I didn't quite understand that. Well, I still think that they want to play nickel, which means I think you still, to me, getting rid of.

of OSA meant that you're going to play a lot more nickel. And the problem with OSSA was in what you have to have, you got to remember where Parker's coming from, he's come from the Eagles. They want to have two kind of heavy-handed guys on the inside. If we get some pass rush from them, that's great. But having a quick three, so a guy that just lines up on the guard and he's going to jet through that B gap and he's going to try and get penetration, that doesn't necessarily work. You can't kick that guy out? Like you can't. You can't. I argued for it. I made the comment. I talked multiple people on this. I made a comment, too, of like, he can easily be a big five. The problem with then when you go and you talk to, you know, OSA about it, hey, we're going to use you as really

this kind of big five. Yeah, you're going to have some pass rush, but we really need you to be more of an edge setter than anything else. And I think, too, philosophically and just what you're looking at, they don't, you know, Parker's not looking for a 300 pound, you know, kind of a wide nine, right? He wants more of a defensive end body or, or an edge body. It wants an edge body, not an interior lineman body. And I think for them, it was just kind of the odd man out because he's really a pass rush specialist and not somebody that can fit.

This is the trade-off that you get when you make the switch to a coverage first mentality versus a kind of a pass-rush first mentality that the Cowboys have kind of been on. The Fangio system, look, when they were with it, when they won the Super Bowl with the Eagles and they killed the Chiefs. And they had eight deep that they could just rotate through. Right. But if you look at kind of what they want, they need to have solid defensive ends that can kind of do both things.

But those interior guys have to be able to occupy that, the three people in the middle, which is your guard, center guard. Those guys have to be occupiers. They cannot necessarily just be jetting through. You get problems like you see with the Chiefs front defense, where Chris Jones just does his own thing, swim moves.

It may work. It may not. They may get gas. But they have good lineback. behind him to clean them up. You can't do that at the Cowboys because you don't have that guy that's going to clean it up. And you don't want overshone who's 220 pounds being that guy trying to plug the egg out. That just doesn't work.

I feel like Ezoraku is going to be a nice fit on the backside, like the other side there, scheme-wise. What do you think happened with Trayvon Diggs? Not like what happened to his face. What happened just as far as career-wise? I mean, he was a guy that, you know, he was a Sabin corner. I'd heard Saban talk about him and his technique and his commitment to practice. He's a converted receiver.

When the Cowboys picked him, I was so, so, sight. Like, they just hadn't had a guy like that in forever. And I know the interception thing skewed people's perceptions, but do you have any sort of, is it just injury? Is it tech, like, was there a technique degradation you saw or do you have any insight on Diggs's burn bright, burnout? I think it twofold. I think that what made him so good, which was playing. off the ball and then kind of playing a as a trap corner kind of being able to kind of I'm seeing these quick game I'm doing this that aggressiveness ended up getting him into trouble a lot more I mean

the one year that he had the most picks you know a lot of people were also quick to point out he gave also up like the most yards right so it's like you were basically like a home run hitter that also strikes out so you either get a home run or you strike out I think too when you play that and you're really relying on your traits, your physical traits. When you start racking up the injuries, especially the lower body injuries, it catches up to you. And I think, you know, part of the problem was we saw this last year, the rehab and things like that. It just wasn't, it just wasn't working out. And so when you are that kind of an aggressive corner, an aggressive top down corner, that tends to get you into trouble as you get older, you kind of age out really, really quickly.

General coaching philosophy, can you tell I'm excited to talk to you? General coaching philosophy thing. I heard you talking about, this is something we've talked about forever, but using the national championship as an example, Miami and Indiana essentially running the same defense, but because they have different levels of talent, not to say Indiana doesn't have talent, but because Miami has so much top-in NFL talent,

they've got a bunch of dudes. When you've got that much talent, even if you're running the same defense, Miami runs it much more simply. And Indiana, to make up for their talent discrepancy is simulating pressures and changing coverages post-snap and disguising things. Dan and I always used the comparison of tech really was able, they invested into the air raid because of a talent discrepancy.

The air raid was a solution to not being able to have as much talent as the bigger schools. well then the bigger schools with the talent just started running that offense and started running it in the same way. And so my thought is why does there have to be that trade-off? Like if you've got all these dogs. Now ironically, the Cowboys last year were coached like a team full of studs. Very, very basic, very what you see is what you get. But is it just human nature?

Like why is it that if you know you can do something without putting a little schematic juice into it. Why can't why not both the kid in the commercial? Well, I think you can do almost too much. The NFL is really interesting. I actually was doing some research on this this morning, but the NFL does not stunt on rundowns, but you go, which means they're not moving defensive linemen. But if you go to, if you go to the college level, it's a big part of the game, especially you just mentioned in Indiana. They stunt a ton. Why they're really, they're kind of smaller on the offensive line. They're trying to mitigate. some of the issues and trying to funnel things to certain areas in the box.

What I have found is that you really need to do more if you're trying to create advantages or change the math for you. So it's not necessarily that you're getting less creative. It's just that those players are creative on their own, right? They're big and can move, right? So I don't necessarily like Miami, I don't have to stunt because one of the things that happens when you stunt is that it raises the success rate. So it becomes more feast or famine. So when I play really good teams, right, when I get into the college playoff, if I'm really stunt heavy and, you know, we're kind of simple with it, you know, we can get caught.

Whereas I don't necessarily need to do that. So again, it goes back to I don't necessarily need to do it. But what you don't want to get in a situation where that, hey, we need answers, but we don't have the guys that are solving those problems on their own. So I think that's more, it's more players than it is, plays than anything else. And I do think, like, Oklahoma is an outlier. I think Indiana a little bit is an outlier in it of itself where you movement heavy. there's really NFL to the talent differential is so small.

I don't think people realize the difference between the Raiders and the Seahawks is not as far as you actually think it is. Whereas if I were to take Indiana and they play Akron, that's a huge difference in talent differential at the college level. So I think that's part of it as well. But it's also philosophical, I think, too. It's intentionality as well. We're just not spamming a bunch of calls.

I love it. Here's some, what we're going to call sports gummy thoughts. This is brought to you by early bird CBD.com. The promo code is DumbZone 20. I know you're a defensive guy. Hear me out. Flea flicker based offense. So we're speaking of spamming it.

We're setting up the flea flicker every play. What do you think? Sometimes we're pitching it back. Sometimes we're not. There's a lot of different stuff we can do with this. I think at the end of the day, gadget plays if you are going to do the whole thing once they become they're not novel anymore so if that becomes your whole offense teams will then be able to prepare for it so i you know that's why those

systems like that or the swinging gate you want to use those a couple of times a game you don't want to use them as your total offense yeah but if i run it on 80 percent then when i just run a simple inside zone you're gonna you won't be ready for it and i'll be able to break it the secondary might be a little bit more passive i do understand that but you're just kind of feeding into the too high world of just both separate the cover from the front. All right. How about this one? We ran a fake after successfully running a hook and ladder, and I say ladder, I hope that's

okay. I feel like I didn't hear lateral until I heard it in the media, but we executed one and then ran a fake after the fake hook and ladder. What if we just based the whole offense there? There's a lot you could do with that. No, there is. And I think of the lower levels, especially you have that. I think where you get into trouble with plays like that, again, on a consistent basis.

is at the higher levels or at a better coaching teams are going to be where they're supposed to be. And so they're going to have a plan and action of being able to fit the both of those at the simultaneous. But no, I do think that those, you have a movement-based offense, I think is really good just because you have a lot of parts. You have guys that are going to have to guess where the ball is going to go. But I think what you'll find and you'll get into trouble when teams are really, really disciplined. You see guys like Kellyn Moore use the double pass more. And, you know, it's like speaking of a flag, you see NFL quarterbacks now pump fake three, four yards down the line of scrimid, pass the line of scrimid. It still works.

Yeah. It's still works. No, it does. Yeah. It's a, when I see Cody just reject your idea of the fleet flicker based audit, I just want to let you know that one time somebody rejected Kevin Kelly's idea of never punting. Thank you. And of, uh, onside kicking every kickoff. Even great minds, I'm sure, doubted him.

Could you imagine, because he did that at first because of a talent discrepancy. Right. Can you imagine if next year the Cowboys just started doing that? I can't because I know that Bones was too much for Jerry. And that's why Bones was too risky. And so, yeah, my last thing is you mentioned it earlier, so you grew up, you know, you were a D.B. And I assume you've always been white. So we all had, we all had black friends growing up.

get real excited for Michael Vick, get real excited for Randall Cunningham. I'm very much enjoying this era of my life, where I just get to root for the white D.Bs proliferating is, I didn't see this coming. Not since Jason Seahorn, right? Yeah, dude. That was the last one?

Yeah, and there's like, these guys are dynamic, dude. Like, the guy he's talking about from Oregon, if the Cowboys get him, you will love this dude. Just an absolute, he's like a bigger version of the Honey Badger, except he's a Caucasian. And, yeah, Cody's helped usher in the air. So matchquarters.com. It's the best nine bucks of football content I'm buying every month.

Go check out his stuff on YouTube. Check out the podcast. It's Cody Alexander. Thank you so much, man. Appreciate you. Yeah, appreciate it. Thank you. There he goes.

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Then we'll get back to the weekend chat. We can spread it all out. Oh, yeah, I like that. We'll spread our legs. So I'm not going to start with the most exciting new sport, baseball. But I will just mind to mention because it happened during the show on Friday, or did it happen right after the show, the Tiger Car Crash? Right after.

Right after. We never mentioned it on the show. We were at a big party out of Elizabeth's house and a lady walked in. She probably wasn't drinking, but in my mind she was Friday afternoon and loudly proclaimed. y'all see tiger woods got in a car accident and he rolled over his SUV leaving a tournament and then we're like you know we thought it was just a lady yeah and he saw some old story like six years ago got his phone i was like oh this silly yeah we get it and i for my woman you don't understand something came up second like i'm refreshing nothing came up and then boom

the one minute ago TMZ and there's the car flipped over and she's like i told you i was like yeah tiger had come up on the show because that silly door thing he's doing and then you said I can't wait to watch him in the masters. Still time. Is there a report on how injured he is or are they going to like? I'm sure he's not doing great. Spend him from because a lot of the stuff I saw was, it's now time for a star realized that Tiger is an addict.

Really? Oh, now. Then he went to sex counseling for, I mean, obviously. Well, this is a other addict. I know. Not everybody gets into everything, but if you got the personality, for it, you've got the personality for it. You having lots of sex?

Well, I'm addicted to it. Hell yeah. I have to. It's just with myself because I've been married for two years. Did a lot of that over the weekend. You doing Kinnison? Just talking to my kids every once in a while. Just doing this.

Dude, I do that too. I watch a John Mullaney comedy special and then I was just talking in his tone and his thing for the rest of the day. No, but I've also said, Mary Mary just all the time For no reason

Yeah yeah I don't know the rest of it It's Mary Mary Well Wait till we do the Adam Sandler one No Twitter Jokes of the Week of course These have been great

One would certainly have to do with You know surviving The black half of him is surviving These horrific car crashes While the Asian half is causing them Yeah That's a good racist comedy Yeah the black

half is being beaten by the cops. The black side getting arrested for what the Asian side did. And then you have, of course, since 1997, Tiger Woods has as many DUIs and car crashes as the Dallas Cowboys have playoff wins. What are we doing? We were just having a nice football talk about how the defense is getting fixed. Funny Twitter jokes of the week. Yeah. Okay.

Well, I don't know. I don't know how to feel, right? I want to watch the guy go off. I want him to get help, I guess. I don't really give a shit. Yeah, yeah. I don't. Totally honest with you.

That's the thing to say is I care. I just care about him as a person. I don't. I do not care about him as a person. I don't care about Mark Calquecaveccia. What I care about is, is Tiger going to get out there and win that claret jug again? Not the driver I care about. Oh.

Yeah. He's talking about golf clubs. Yeah. Folks. Yeah. Sports. You want to do the most exciting sport in history? Sure. The newest, most exciting sport.

Litigation. Baseball. Baseball's back. Put it on the list. That felt good. Put it on the list. It is having a moment. Now, how long is this going to last?

Until they strike. Yeah. I just mean the ABS wave. Oh. That's what I'm on. Like I love, I just love the implementation of the automatic balls and strikes, the challenges. Why does it have to end at all? Like, it's always going to be exciting that that, you know, we could talk about this forever from a million different angles,

but to me, it's so fast. And the countdown is so exciting. I can't wait to be in the crowd when one happens. Yeah. Three, two, one. Yeah, dude. I don't think that ever is going to leave us. I think it's always going to be cool because I thought you were going to do this overworked Twitter joke of the week.

I don't know if T.C. No, no, but just on the ABS thing is just this is like, it's like, it's at the crux of everything in society of just watching people in power get checked. You know, it's like this guy said is very poetic. It sits at the vexed crossroads of several highly charged dynamics in our collective life. Successful challenges by your team feel amazing like a long-awaited blow against capricious and unearned authority. But the overall existence and putative infallibility of ABS inevitably ignites anxieties about the suprudity of human judgment. And yet, a challenge system relies on human hubris, intuition, boldness, and risk.

It's a very compelling encounter between populism and the machine. And I know that's a lot. I love it. But it really is. Like, everybody right now is talking about, what the fuck are we going to do about these robots? And then here's baseball, like,

put one in there. Let's see how it changes things. It's really incredible. Yeah. It's really incredible. As another guy said, it's just baseball getting popular again by humiliating the umpires. The, yes, now we are here to see them.

But like, we've always been like, we don't know these games to see the umpires. No, no, step in there. We're now watching it to see the umpires. Let me test your eyes, Superman. I spent all weekend just watching clips on Twitter. Sure. Let's see. There was one where Derek Shelton, of course, the manager of the twins.

He, I think he's the. first to get ejected. Now, he's not arguing with the robot. Did you see this? Yeah, I didn't quite know. I didn't catch what it was about. I think his thing was the Baltimore pitcher, you know, did the hat-tap challenge. And Derek Shelton came charging out of the dugout, alleging that the Baltimore pitcher

took too long. So now we can still argue about at least they left something. Yeah, for subject. Gotta have something to get mad at. They've left something to the umpire's discretion. And that's the thing that's going to... Well, you know, the one we called in spring training wasn't that, but it was the assistance thing.

Like, I was just talking to my wife in the stands. Yeah. That's something the umpire also has a little bit of... They're not letting you do this even. Yeah. But I've seen a couple of catchers get it waved off. Now, those didn't result in ejections. It just resulted in, oh, okay, I'll go quicker next time.

But you got to... You got to be right on it. And how much of it from the manager's perspective, the esteemed Derek Shelton, is it's like, I just got to yell. Like, I'm used to yelling in this situation at somebody. Yeah. I don't know. I don't care.

But I'm not going to stop yelling because that means I lost the fight. I don't care if he tapped it fast enough or not. I need something to yell about here. That's the only thing left for me to yell about. That's what I'm going to yell about. The first ever Rangers challenge. Like, hold on. Let's stay on that for a second.

Sure. Because doesn't, like, we know. know that managers will get tossed for vibes. Yeah. We know that NBA coaches will get ejected for rallying cries. And that's funny because usually you just do it over balls and strikes. And that there had to be. Well, not really because you're not allowed to argue balls and strikes.

Well, the player's not. Right. Right. And then I thought that's what the manager would come out there and argue and get ejected over. Yeah. It's say like, well, you're squeezing beyond his own here or whatever. Yeah. Now that's off the table.

Like, you really can't go out there and yell about that, but you need to get the boys fired up. How is getting humiliated throughout a game going to affect your other calls then? Well, I know that. That's the human element. Like, now I'm in the middle of this game that I know I'm having a shitty game. And you know how players that can affect you out in the field, you're having a terrible day at the plate, and it affects your fielding. Well, how will this affect?

And how will it affect maybe even? the cocky catcher who really knows and is just pulling this umpire's pants down in all game, how does that affect your calls on him or just his team or you know how it is? Yeah, no, that's interesting. These guys are used to being gods on the field. So, yeah, next time you want to slide into home and it's a bang bang or something even close. I don't know. That's interesting.

It's all very interesting. There's a subjective call. Okay, the Rangers one. first ever challenge in franchise history was a 1-1 pitch with nobody on and two outs in the fourth and it was unsuccessful. Was this Evan Carter's? Yeah.

That was not good, folks. I had to double take. Like the 8th hitter in the lineup. Yeah. So yeah, 1-1 pitch, no one on, two outs in the fourth. This is where I believe when we were talking to the Brewers about this. It's like, yeah, you got to have a, a spot where there's a red light on.

Yeah, but Evan Carter's known for his eye and his plate discipline, so I would imagine he's got carte blanche to do it, or not anymore, but at the time, maybe. Man, did you see, I guess this makes sense, but his was, like, what is a strike? I never really thought about it, like, the plane of the end zone. It's the tiniest little piece of the ball on the tiniest little piece of the corner of the zone strike.

99.9% of the ball can be outside of the zone and it still be a strike. I'd never really internalized that before. But that is the one, that is his. Like they showed it. And I was like, dude, there's really no space there. It's on the corner of the zone. So it was close. Obviously, they're all close if you're challenging it.

But that's the first one that it had dawned on me. They're not all close. Well, yeah. See the female lumps? But yeah, from spring training. It was right down the middle. Jin, we're going to start you in the minor leagues. Maybe you can work your way.

We turn the robots into all right guys because they're like, God, these women cannot do anything. Have you seen the numbers for who's successful and who's not? I have. It's good stuff. What do you mean? Players? Well, just over the week, I thought I had a unique thought of, hey, let me see who's getting challenges right. Turns out everyone was looking at these numbers.

Because it seemed like catchers were really good at it. And maybe those are just the clips we're seeing, but Real Muto had a couple of the rangers. Salvador Perez had a few in a row. And catchers are right about 64% of the time. They're 40 and 23. Pitchers are terrible. They're one for four. They're not. Yeah, nobody's letting their pitchers have the green light. Yeah. And then batters are almost half. 26 and 31. So I saw a follow-up to that. No, I did not do these numbers of my own blake. So don't feel bad, but this is shocking. Well, maybe it's not shocking.

It's just seeing it iterated. The changes in outcomes in and a bat, in it at bat if you have a successful or an unsuccessful challenge. So if the batting team, like league average walk rate, this is a fun one. You want to guess? All at bats. So say it again?

League average walk rate. Do you know strikeout? I would walk, I don't know, 8%? 10%. Okay. Do you know strikeout roughly? 15? 25.

Okay. Okay, so keep those numbers in mind. 10% walk rate, 25% strikeout rate. For the batting team, if they have a successful challenge, their walk rate goes up to almost 50%. Their strikeout rate goes down to 17. The ops on successful challenge at bats is almost 1,000. It's 942. Now let's go the other way.

Yeah, I don't think that's that surprising, only that a two-one count. You're going to be using it on the... Between a two-one and a one-two. It's, that's, you'll get those same numbers. Yeah. And that's probably why Evan Carter on a one-one pitch is like, I got to have that one. The pitching team, like, it's the, it's crazy opposite. Like, if you have a pitching team and you have a successful challenge,

you're going to get a strikeout 62% of the time. And it pushes the ops down to 429. So like somebody at some point is going to tie this into when's above replacement. Just like catcher framing was eventually computed into. Oh, so a catcher making it successful. Yeah. You know why?

Because his agent wants to go to them in the off season and be like, look at the, my guy just created value right here. Look how good he was with these challenges. Yeah, we had to do that with these. The catchers that are hitting 207. Yeah. Had to try to show where their value is.

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Oh, yeah. You familiar with him? Were you previous to this? He's not quite Angel Hernandez, but he's up there of like he'll be wrong and F you, if you think I'm wrong. Okay. A lot of attitude. Very, very toodle. Okay.

I thought it was a Dolphins DB when I first saw that. I was like, oh, do we have a... So six... He had six calls overturned in the Reds game against the Red Sox. And so this is one particular instance where the bad... has two strikes on him. This is in Cincinnati. He has two strikes, and he gets rung up in very like,

I'm showing you who I am. He'll do that. Real ho-yo, you know. Yeah. He's Leslie Nielsen behind the plate. And you know that's sorry. We're going to lose it. I know.

We're going to lose it. Because this guy rings you up. And immediately hit the hat. And now we've got to go back and do it again. again and then he brings him up again. Big moment. Bases reloaded. Bottom six, something like that. Big moment in the game.

The challenge, immediate tap of the helmet. The Reds runners all hold. Batters challenge in the pitch. PBS powered by Team Mobile. Can you pause it? So do you know that they put it up on the big screen in the stadium? Incredible. So it's not, the umpire is not going to a tablet or something.

Everyone in the stadium. Right. Pee at it and then making it. announcement. Right. Everyone in the stadium is looking at the Jumbotron. It's not on a headset. It's amazing.

I don't know who made that decision. For all to see. That, yeah. And then yes, it'll be, if it's in the zone, it'll go red. And if not, then not. I haven't seen people that fired up, like in person watching a sporting event since those people in the bar when Chris Collinsworth slid into the screen. Like you said, I want to be in the building to see this.

It's perfect. Yes. I need to be there. ABS powered by T-Mobile, that's out of the zone. This is the very next pitch then. There's no. A.B.S. could be a lot of fun, lark. It's amazing how minuscule the misses are, but these guys just know it. Great feel for that strike zone.

It was called strike three end of inning. Now the two, two. Called strike three, tap the helmet again. He says it's off the plate away. Badder's challenge in the pitch. Here we go. It's so exciting. It's insane.

It's the loudest cheers of the game. The rats have been two homers come up back-to-back challenges. It's excellent. Oh, wow. You are just on the edge of your seat watching that thing. And yeah, it shows like a simulated pitch then. It doesn't just show the screenshot of the, whether it's good or not.

It shows the pitch coming. You know who doesn't love it? The opposing team radio's broadcast. Oh, you got this one? Because now this is a bunch of balsh that they can just challenge these strikes. You have this very one? Yeah.

In this pitcher, making his major league debut, think of everything this kid has to go through now with ABS. The storybook season. Yeah. So here we go. Let's take you to the Reds broadcast. Or, excuse me, the Red Sox. On the Dumb Zone right now.

Reds at every base. Here's the one, two. And it is, strike three called. Welcome to the big leagues. Ryan Watson. They're going to challenge. Suarez thought it was down. So now you hold your breath and wait.

I thought it was so close on the bottom inside corner. And it's a ball by one seam. Point three inches. Well, think about Watson. Not only does he have all the adrenaline of his major league debut, he just thinks he struck out Suarez to get out of a basis load of jam, and now he's got to completely reset. Might as well beat Gaza.

Slider goes with the fastball and freezes him. Two and two. The pitch is strike three called. He's going to challenge again. What? What? That was like it caught the bottom of the zone. I thought it was very close, maybe outside.

Internet issues. Bump, bump, bump. Burt. And I feel for Ryan Watson right now. Poor Ryan Watson. I bet you do. So I, this account I follow.

That was his major league debut? Yeah. That at bat? No. That game. I'm going to take this, but a big moment. I'm going to take this as a truth.

So the 10 oldest umpires. Oh, I wanted to go here. I'm glad you're doing this. The 10 oldest umpires have a, a 69% overturn rate

while the 10 youngest umpires are at 39%. Yeah, Buckner himself is 63 years old. And I mean, your eyesight goes. It's like the first thing. It's like the joke

about being old first. The thing is, with the term limits. The thing is with the umpires union and everything, You got to think this is going to change umpiring, I would believe as the future goes. Because think of, you know what the easiest thing is? It's not going out on the field and playing games. It's like playing video games.

Isn't that the very easiest thing? So certainly someone my age, someone Jake's age, especially you, Blake, you're real young, right? What are you? 33? 34. You could probably join these video game tournaments, right? Because your reaction time is, wait, what? What do you mean?

Yeah, if you're not 20. I heard, yeah, I've known guys, what was Hunter? Yeah. Hunter was like 25 and he said, I've aged out. Yeah. Yeah, the commentators, their Pat Summeralls are all 24. Like, his reflexes are not good enough at the age of 25 to compete with the video gamers. Yeah, you turn 23, you're now coach.

And like that one announcer was like, it's wild, how minuscule the difference, yeah, that's their job. You're hired to know the difference in those 0.3 inches. How about this? And if you're 63 years old, it's that much tougher. It is that much tougher, but it's already, I mean, maybe it's just because I'm not baseball guy,

but I find it. It's already tough, but look at those batters. Yeah, they're doing it. I mean, yes, you have to be able, you know, do you think I can recognize? a slider within a split second when it's released, when it's being thrown at 82 miles? You know, you can't.

I can't. Guys have to have really good eyesight, really good reactions. And yeah, I wonder if we're going to start seeing more umpires that are actually, well, this is probably 10 or 20 years down the road then, right? It has to have a new generation of this, but that are actually like all the age of the players. Yeah. Well, I will, to the umpires credit, we've mentioned this,

but when they've rolled this out in other leagues, the umpires numbers have all gotten better from what I've read. By the end of the year, they were posting their best ball strike numbers in recorded history. It's not that long. The minor leagues you're saying? Yeah. Okay.

Like they figure it out. You know, they figure out what the machine wants. They don't want to be embarrassed by machine. Well, that's it. And like before this, you were allowed to say, I'm going to give this guy the outside.

corner. Oh, yeah. I'm going to give the guy low. I feel like their strike zones were... It's Vladdy. And now it's more restricted. I mean, to me, this is a dream

that I know this is where you know, my family was trying to get me tested for the tism. This is where Dan and I certainly come together on. I, like, swallow your whistle. I can't handle that sort of stuff. I can't handle alterations to the way

the game is being played without feeling like I'm having a glitch. And you earned that call. Does not exist in baseball. ball at the plate anymore. Boy, imagine a World Series end of game. They're doing this. I'm just saying.

I think I don't ever forget the year. It was like a 97 NLCS where they were just. Oh, A.L. It was the Indians. Oh, really? Yeah, I was watching that. Yeah. Just how many calls would have been wrong.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, and that's the thing. You say they figured it out, like the players figured it out. They had to figure out the strike zone of the umpire, which was the, the, case then. I got to figure out the umpire's strike zone and then I'm going to, okay, I'm going to, the umpire keeps calling that obvious ball. I'm going to keep throwing it exactly right there. That's how good they are. And that's what the umpires would say. Yeah, umpires do have different zones,

but the players do adjust. They figure it out. Well, now the umpire's got to figure it out. And I love it. 430 hitters on opening day rosters, 225 of them lost at least one inch off their previously listed heights. Good bit. Half? Half. Half. Wow. 48 lost two inches. 171 lost one inch and six lost three inches

of height. Who's doing that? Everybody been dating apping it. Oh man, that's awesome. Good times in sports. Baseball's back, folks. Period. defending World Series champion will open their season at the ballpark.

You went to a surprise, right? I did. I did indeed. How was that? Right? Is this going to be any good? Well, they need some older pitchers to have some good reentrenching years, I would say. And if that happens, we'll be on box sports.

This is a big year for Major League Baseball period. It's a lot of good teams. You look at the Yankees. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. Ah, yes indeed. Hey, watch us on TV. It's called DZ TV. It's on Channel 27 tonight.

And most nights, I think sometimes like the stars or maybe there's some kind of soccer. John Cuccle was telling us, kicks us off. Cicks us. Soccer, Greg. World Cup, bro. Really? No, I mean, it's coming.

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Okay. Yeah. Went to a gun show in Mesquite on Saturday, which kind of feels like the home of gun show. It does. It does. So a lot of like-minded individuals there. Begans? Huh?

A lot of vegans. Yeah. Tons of impossible jerky. Right. But started the weekend off with a good Discord chat with the Dumb Zone Discord people. Got about a thousand people in there. Clayton is on the streets. Clayton is on the corner for us.

He is the front lines, public facing. If there's a chat. Yeah. And someone needs to do that. And it can't really be us. You guys get mad at me when I reference Reddit. But the problem is sometimes my. friends will send me stuff from the

Dumb Zone Reddit because they like to make fun of me. So they're like, look. Yeah. Dunkin on Jake is a big theme on the Dumb Zone Reddit. And I want that to continue. I just don't think I can be the one to scout. And honestly, who gives it? Haven't you had like, so cool? I don't care. Might not have liked it. You've had like

70 donkeys of the day over there. For real, I'm racking up donkeys. I need to get to the, okay. I think I got us a subscriber last week. And we had the Subby-42 game. Which if you would like to play email me uh guys showed up because he wanted to play 42 and he knew uh one of the subbies that uh that that was there who invited him and uh he was like you guys still aren't on

the ticket i said no the classic case he said oh what what are you doing now and so i had to send him or the dumb zone this is our podcast but like listen to us on the ticket had no idea what we were doing that's a real person and that's why clayton's out there in these streets yeah Yeah, at gun shows. Dunking on me. And in the Discord. Yeah, we were having some food talk. A thousand people are in the Discord talking.

There's a thousand members. Not everybody, according to Reddit, there's only five people in there talking. Oh, shit. We got a, we got to. Oh, yeah, there's beef. Reddit doesn't like the Discord. There's Reddit Discord beef. But the main thing we had going on, we're doing some food hacking this weekend.

breaking down some menu items. Waterburger, big player. These guys aren't eating sardines. No. No. And listen, bud, I'm going with them. Yeah, we... Well, there's a lot of protein in sardines.

Cool. Yeah. There's a lot of protein in this waterburger hack that I shared with the group that started a nice conversation. Grill chicken, sandwich from waterburger, kill everything, change it to a tortilla. Grilled onions, grilled jalapinos. It's amazing. Okay.

It's what the people who are cooking your food normally. That's what they eat. You'd like to think, boy, the discourse, what do they describe? Their favorite segment? No. Boy. No, they wanted food talk. So we jumped in the food.

We have a channel for food specifically, so we don't bog everything else down. Consider it. Yeah, so the food zone. We were, yeah, we're going over biscuits who's got the best biscuits. Okay. A lot of great discourse, though. These are the people that listen to us every day, and they wanted you guys to know who's coming out with some, you know,

who's up, who's down? We got ups and downs going on in the fast food world. Sonic, big down right now. What was the thing on, it was my daughter's, she said it was TikTok or whatever. It was the New Year's thing. Inns and out. Inns and out.

Sonic, out. Wendy's, out. Chick-fil-A, out. Nothing wrong with Sonic. I was floored by that guy who did was doing a Popeye's review and he ate the biscuit like a chip. You've seen this guy? No. The entire biscuit in one bite.

It's too dry. I agree. I put my red beans and rice on my biscuit. I do a little Cajun gravy. Yeah, of course. Pro move. Yeah. Well, we're going to wait, I think, until tomorrow to discuss whether blast ball is in or out.

We got to, we have to talk. Okay. Blake issued a... This is your first... Are you the coach? No. Okay. No, there really isn't much of a coach.

And a two-year-old kids playing baseball. Yeah. Yeah, it's, we'll discuss it, Link, tomorrow. Because we're going to talk adult baseball right here. The Rangers did play three times, Dan. Thursday, of course, was already in the books when we did the show on Friday. But then, dude, fired up. What's the, if this team's going to be in the playoffs, how's it going to get there?

That rotation, man, you just get those top two cooking and it all falls into place from there. building off of a big healthy year of Jacob de Grom. Let's settle in Saturday afternoon. He scratched. We lost. It's like, okay. Game two, because it's cold. All right.

And lo and behold. Neck stiffness. I know, but they said that it could have been related. Your hotel bed was too hard. Well, the good news is, is somehow they got a productive day out of a dude who didn't know that he would be making a start until that day. And he was actually pretty good. So that was fun.

The end of the game was fun. I don't know if you were watching live or not. I think I was, yeah. So it was a very windy day in Philadelphia. And it was, if you like a day of baseball, Dan, where pro athletes look like little leaguers, trying to track infield fly balls in the wind, it was great.

Jake Berger, who's a good. a big man fell down multiple times on his back trying to track foul balls wanted to leave him in philly well you couldn't because he's the only one who can hit outside of your other new edition we'll get to in a second we'll get to that sorry but yeah no i mean josh young is uh apparently broken jock peterson still jock peterson so yeah but jake burger dropped a few pretty easy plays one of them kept the game alive three rangers winning three nothing Two outs, two strikes. Adelis pops up the first and Berger falls on his ass.

O2, not just two strikes. And barely gets a glove on it. Then Adolus doubles and then Boe-Singles, games tied. Because you can't catch a pop-up. And that wasn't the first one. Did you see the Kemp spin on that bone? No, what do you got for me? I remember his rookie year.

Have you seen it? He hated the fans? No. I think he's suing his parents for stealing his money. Oh, beauty. Got a little... And apparently they were stealing his money, not just like his money, but they were stealing money from his charitable foundation.

Very common. Like they were using that money to pay their personal bills. Yeah. And, of course, then add in investment accounts that they set up. This happened to like Tyron Smith, right? That was a big one. Yeah. Yeah, they set up the L.

Alec Bohm Foundation. I bet they did. I bet they did. And then, so that one goes to extras, Dan, and very small change that baseball's made. I know a lot of people don't like it. I love the ghost runner. I do too. And I don't know if there's any way to try to strategize this.

I imagine it would be no, because the downside would not be worth the squeeze. But having your lead-off guy get out to end the last inning before extras is awesome. Because that's the guy that'll be on second? Yeah. Yeah, Nimmo. Just timing out that way, and it's great. You know, the guy can obviously hit, so he's up at the end of the game, and then he's on, he's scoring.

It feels like it an incredible clip. So that was then, and then yesterday got a solid day out of McKenzie Gore, big off-season acquisition. But Andrew McCutcheon is a Texas Ranger in this world of, I don't know, guys you kind of throw the base. It happens in baseball more than any other sport, right? into the career or you just got into playing on three teams in five years. Andrew McCutcheon was, I don't know, man.

I mean, was he ever an MVP? To me, he was like the most exciting player in baseball for a pretty good stretch of the time where I was actually watching baseball. But he kind of became a punchline to me and my friends for one interview and one interview only. And it was an interview that Ken Griffey Jr. did some years ago. And it occurred to me when I rewatched this. I don't know that I've heard Ken Griffey Jr. interviewed all that much.

Because I think I think of him as kind of a magnetic guy as having a little bit of a fun personality. Yeah, just looking at him. He's a kid. He's a kid. This interview with Linda Cohn, this is on SportsCenter after retirement. It might be the 10th interview he'd done that day for baseball card company. But this is an all-time horrible interview.

I just seeing that video brings back great memories. I used to cover this guy when I worked in. Okay, hold on. There it is. There it is. Gonna have to go ahead and kill that. Baseball guy just watching baseball. 13-time Major League Baseball All-Star.

Ken Griffey Jr., who is here on SportsCenter live on behalf of Upper Deck, which is celebrating its 25th anniversary. How you doing, Ken? Hey, how are you? How do you think this is going to go? That's great so far. Again. How you doing, Ken?

She's fired up. Hey, how are you? Great. Growing up, you had a big baseball card collection. Did you have a favorite? Yeah, one, my dad. Your dad, of course. Besides your dad, you know, were there somebody else?

Nope. I didn't know anybody else. All right. So we're obviously not playing along. I love this. Yeah, I want to hear it all. Difficult interview questions. Obviously, you're on.

to pump your thing. Here, we're going to play the game too. We're going to pretend that I care about your goddamn baseball card collection when you're a kid. Everyone play along. Like, I'm here, I'm just helping you promote this because they're paying you. So now your job now. Are you going to play more of this? Do you know? Have you heard this? No. Okay, I love it. I didn't know anybody else. Yeah, and I mean, you're one of the best at going into that home played hard. You were one of the best at that. Before we let you go, Ken. Wait, how did that fit?

I think it might be like the home plate collection or something. Okay. So she's like she didn't expect him to say one-word answers. Right. All right. Besides your dad, just give me any player. Nope. Nope.

I didn't know anybody else. You know, the fact I grew up in major league clubhouses for 20 years. I didn't ever see another ballplay. It's clear that Ken Griffey Jr., growing up in clubhouses, did not collect baseball cards. He's never had a baseball card.

Me, right. Love baseball cards. wished I could have been near those players. The closest I would ever get to them is having them in this baseball card in my hand. Right, but when you can just go hang out with them. Right.

So he's not really a good one to promote. I didn't know anybody else. Yeah, and I mean, you're one of the best at going into that home plate hard. You were one of the best at that. Before we let you go, Ken, we know you've been doing a ton of interviews for Upper Deck. We have a few Twitter questions for you. This is a choice. Yeah, that's a bad one.

Boy, she's, okay, all right. She acknowledges that this may be your 10th interview. I know you're tired. I know you're, but look, we got our fun way we end these interviews. We're going to go to Buneer's Balls 19. Yeah, you think he's into mean tweets right now? This from Derby at Home Run Derby. Which young outfielder do you see today most resembles your playing style?

And now you'll know. McCutcheon. McCutcheon, Andrew McCutcheon. He's a good one. here's another one. She's going for another one. That's the time to be like, thanks for joining us. Like he's on the stand.

I couldn't even get his whole name. McCutcheon. So that's how I say that word now, but we're not done. Here's another one. Who do you think is the best player in Major League Baseball right now, all around best player? McCutcheon. You guys, buds?

Looking back on your career, Ken Griffey Jr., what do you think will be remembered for far above all else? How you like that, boy? You shouldn't ask that. Smile. Oh, thanks for your time. I'm going to let you go with that, that smile. All right. Ken Griffey Jr., thanks for joining us on Sports Center.

Good luck the rest of the way and everything you do. Thank you. All right, you take it easy. Wow. Unbelievable, right? McCutcheon. And then smile? Like, geez, one word, literally one word.

Straight robot, smile. McCutcheon. McCutcheon. But it turns out not all the old guys you bring in, like, Jock Blow, because McCutche's fun. Yeah, Nimmo's been good. Gets on. That'll probably continue the whole year.

Well, guess what? Jack Peterson not doing it, did. year. Yeah. So, you know, flipside of the coin. That is true. News time? Indeed.

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Okay, go to recently. And it'll just open all the tabs at once. Where's recently? Jesus. Jake's kind of bad with technology, I think. I know. Go to history. I'm on history.

Top of your thing. History, right down there. Just a couple will say recently closed tabs. Just go to all that. I know, but it's not. I think it's because I... Dan's had this conversation with his mom a thousand times. Yeah, I think it's because I hit quit.

But that's okay. We're going to rally because I've bookmarked all these. We'll start with one that right out of, right there in my hometown. We had a domestic, is it domestic violence if it plays out in public? Interesting. Because at the stadium, Birdville Stadium in the parking lot, we had a man kill himself after killing a woman and a child in the parking lot. A parking lot that I have stood in and probably received a hand job. Fired one up.

Flamed one up? No. Hand job? I didn't smoke pot in high school at all. Not until church camp. You had the order of operations wrong a little bit. I smoked pot one time the summer between 8th and 9th grade at church camp. and then not again until a year into college.

I got the same exact, like, I just, I did not smoke pot at all except one time. Mm-hmm. And it was my dad's wedding. I remember. With my new aunt, who was my age. God, that's hot. And I wanted to have sex with.

So hot. But I didn't, but she got me high. Speaking of wanting to have sex with, we've been following the story over the past handful of months of Johnson County Sheriff Adam King, the disgraced horny white-pants sheriff who would schedule women's schedules around, you know, having their lunches in his office, telling them, do you know what I used to do to women in the 80s if they wore white pants at work?

He was just super horny. And he was punishing them and, you know, changing their hours to give them less work and less favorable positions if they rebuffed his advances. He was just a general creeper and to the point of, you know, actually scaring people. Well, he is now been arrested again for aggravated perjury. Because as this story drew out, we kept having notes about, hey, he's going to have to go in. He's got a grand jury. He's got to go, he's got to go talk to the Johnson County people under oath.

well no one told him don't lie in particular he said that he never changed this woman's work schedule or duty station intentionally after he learned that she had accused him of sexual harassment but much like what chris hanson would say whenever he would be standing there and some guy'd be like i didn't do it sheriff we have the chat logs like we know So now What are he saying right there on it? Yeah. Enough to get arrested for it.

The affidavit says he gave special privileges to women who spent time with them. Bind them gifts. You got to earn it. You do got to earn it. A couple notes out of Salina. I mean, back in my day. This is kind of funny.

You've got to wonder, it's spelled differently, but someone sent me this. You've got to wonder if there's any sort of Google alert that goes on. former Salina high school wrestling coach is accused of creating child pornography after secretly recording minors while they showered in a locker room. Wait, this is different? Selina Football Powerhouse in Kansas.

Oh. Oh, yeah. With an S. When I was in high school, I remember learning of, they may say it's Selena. But it's Powerhouse School up there. And they got, there's Salina. It's like a sister city program, you know, like Grapevine has a deal with some town in Mexico where they share culture. Oh, I see.

So Salina and Salina both. Yeah, they have the high school athletes do naked recording. No, but the other Salina story we have is from Salina C, and it is not related to the new jumping jacks, but it is related to that super kick-ass massive house party we talked about. where 800 kids, I mean, I'm sure a lot of them are over 18. That's like a whole high school. No, but. No?

Well, there's no high schools that are 80s? Yeah, yeah, you're right. I should think of mid-high schools. Like, I graduated with that many, right? Okay. But you're right. You're right, for sure. A lot of people.

A ton of people. Picture you're graduating. There you go. Your graduation ceremony. And it was an Airbnb. Yeah. So the owner of the president. property talked to uh to fox four nice said they uh booked it for a party of seven you tend to

i'll embellish sometimes i'll say we got four when we really have five man i've been living that you know because i was always the guy who booked the house for the the the boys summer vacation trip the group trip and i'm like i don't have to count a guy if he's sleeping in the bathtub right you don't count him i don't count him let's uh so yeah They took out all the wall fixtures. They broke everything. The island was broken. The granite countertop was broken.

Took all the furniture out of the living space. The granite countertop. It's hard to break. People were dancing on them. Like people were up on, like, tons of kids up on top of it. Hey, you wanted to make rental money? Yeah. You wanted a passive income.

So two people taken into custody. We had shots fired. Damn. Police chief says we started getting 9-1-1 calls. Got a call that there were 10 men at the front gate and they had guns and they were threatening to kill someone. So this, of course, amped up our officers just a bit to make sure we go inside and keep everybody safe.

Now, what happened here is, in my experience, something that happens at every large high school party of any size, of any note. There's going to be a fight somehow. There's going to be guys who weren't invited who show up. There's going to be guys who you want to leave, who won't leave. But at some point there's going to be a fight. And there's not going to be one guy because he's got friends.

I've seen this happen many, many times. So when they say there were 10 guys at the gate, it's probably a bunch of dudes out there like, hey, from two high schools over, they fucking let us in there, dude. And one of them has a gun, and then that turns into, oh, there's gang, there's gang violence happening over here. It's like, yeah. I don't know.

But the fact that this stuff can spread the way that it can now on social media makes me miss high school or college. It makes me miss being able to be like, I just found out there's a place 25 minutes from here. You would have been there. There's going to be 600 people tonight. You would have absolutely been there. I would have lit their pool on fire with gasoline.

I'm surprised Blake isn't taking his kid there. That's good point. Trying to kill time. No, he's busy. He's busy doing his work for. They found that flight attendant's body Unalive. That's good, right?

Got a really long email about that guy. Hit me, or is that viewer mail? Let's see. It's basically, it's a really long email. But it's just... We can save it if you want. No, no, no. It's basically a guy who also, I think, was a flight attendant

said he has made that trip Oh, no, he just said he's been going to Medellin five to six times a year for 20 years. But he's like, that is not very uncommon. What happened to that guy? As far as he said we've had 50 such cases reported this year in Medellin. We estimate 90% of the cases actually go unreported because the victims are too embarrassed or have wives or families that would prevent them from admitting what happened. So, like, people who don't, who did.

didn't die. Right. They just got stuck. They got robbed. Well, it's like, yes, a common theme, guy goes to bar, meets a girl, they agree to go to his place for some fun. She drugs him, steals everything he has. He wakes up two days later if he's lucky.

It could be a dude, too. Yeah, he said the most dangerous part is that many of the guys don't wake up. They're killed, possibly by the girl messing up the dosage. It's easy to do. The drugs they use are very powerful. Yeah. And the rest of the world, you hear about date rape drugs, like ketamine or Ativan. Ativan, yeah.

Ativan. They use those in Columbia, but they have another drug as well and whatever. Yeah, I mean. So basically, he was not surprised at this at all. I'm not surprised. He's not surprised. I was talking to my wife about it, and her surprise was that they nabbed an American. Which I, you know, you think in general, because people are getting kidnapped.

South America all the time. Like, I think it's a day, you know, it's a normal thing. But if you kidnap it, and it's never going to end up on the news, you know? I would imagine, but you kidnap a guy who lives in America,

who works for an American company, they're probably going to find you. I would think that would I would think that'd be a criminal no-no, but who knows? Let's see here. What was the next one I wanted to Oh, explain this one to me, restaurant man. So you're aware of Perry's Steakhouse?

I've been there. Good. It's good. Got a great bar menu. I feel like that's why I'm fucking turning in my dad, bro. My dad is, I mean, I think I told you guys this. And it's no, I'm not shaming him. I'm just making fun of him.

My dad has done pretty well, right, financially. Maybe this is why he's got so much money because he doesn't live like I do. But, man, my mom, my dad, my dad, my, stepmom are eating dinner at 4.30, not just because they're old, but because they, they split like happy hour dishes everywhere they go. That's what my mom is telling me. They go to the bar. When she learned that that exists with Rose.

Yeah. Like she's like, the portions are smaller. You get more or whatever, blah, blah, blah. They order three different things. Yeah, she's so fired up. They might get a beer and a glass of wine, but it's really not about that. They're going a happy hour to order small bites and share them like, birds. It's so weird to me. But in any case, as I'm like, order me a second entree and put it on

the credit card. Perry's was, they're Houston-based. They were ordered to pay over $21 million out in damages this weekend or last week by a Houston judge. For what they say is in a legal tip pool. So what they were doing, they were sued by 750 waiters. who say that they had taken a portion of their tips each week and pulled them into a mandatory tip pool, which was then used to pay staff who don't customarily get tips. So I assume that's like back of house. But I thought I've heard of like the progressive way to run a restaurant

is that you do some sort of thing that. But wait a second. Explain how they get the pool. It's a mandatory what? Mandatory. tip pool. The company takes a portion of their tips each week and pulls them into a mandatory tip pool. But you're taking, so you are taking the tip from the waitress. Correct. You're saying I am, she says I was given this tip for my job. Actually, I'm going to take 10% of that. Right.

To spread it over. Like, so they're just making it mandatory instead of the, it was always an unwritten thing, right? Like, I don't know. I would, I would work in places where. Or they would, you know, the bar keep would give bar, whatever, tender, would bar keep. I am in 1930. We've got half off cans of sardines today. Yeah. Yeah, would, you know, go out some to the bar back, but it wasn't like you didn't have to. Right.

They just would. Well, I guess formalizing it violates the Fair Labor Standards Act. Well, and yeah, it should. you're already not paying, you know, the... In theory, the bus boy is making at least a minimum wage, right? If you're a waitress, you're making whatever it is, $2 or $3 or... Well, I saw a good chart the other day. I was tell my mom this this weekend.

That was like it was showing the inflation... I think it started because we were talking about my kids and college and how much it cost. What you are about to describe, I believe, not to be... my normal, I know something. This is referred to as the chart. The chart. So they're just showing like college. Consumer goods.

And I believe it's 2009. So you see, what did college cost in 2009 on average and what it cost today? It's like 150% more. Milk, gas, whatever, all these things. The biggest one was healthcare. So health care in 2009 and what it cost today, like that's skyrocket. That's 210% more. And then they show the bottom line is minimum wage.

And the minimum wage has not changed at all. And that just seemed like a bad bit. Yeah. There are other things. I know that you're like, or get political, do some sort of revolution here. Did the chart, did you see TVs are cheaper? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Below that, yes, the bottom line was that, but then even below that,

Yeah. Things that have actually gone down. Yeah. Yes, big screen TVs. Which is great. It's rules, dude. Because now I can watch automatic balls and strikes on a big TV. Yeah.

While I pay $500 for my insulin. Yeah. Well, you know, you got some give. Sure. Sure. And then Carrollton was charged with murder. 23-year-old man. Police arrived at his home.

This is about a week ago. Call about a disturbance. 23-year-old guy, they found a woman with an injury to her throat who was not breathing. The arrest affidavit says the officers heard the man say both, I didn't do anything bad and, quote, I was obligated to do it in Spanish. Those don't have to be conflicting ideas. But they found a marriage license from one month ago. So this guy cut his wife's throat, tried to cut her head off one month into that marriage,

which I understand because I've been married for 15 years. I set that up way too much. Stupid. Was he really trying to cut her head off and discovered that's actually pretty hard to do? It doesn't say, but it does say that she had a large throat. laceration, not breathing, and that he was covered in blood and had a big knife. Yeah. Well.

But one month, though. It is kind of funny to find the life. So every story you're looking at through the lens of Sam Kinnison. Yeah, I'm not. It's going to become a theme or a trend. We're going to audit the system. All right. There's a news.

We recovered okay there. Says the guy who did it. like and subscribe. That was a good news. Happy birthday. Thank you. Oh, this is what? You got another new story?

Go ahead. Do what you want. Well, it's not much of a new story. My weekend check is going to be tomorrow because we're going to talk about why Hillary lost is because of Blastball. But I just have to briefly tell you guys, I tried to go do something interesting for the show,

and it kind of failed. There were two things happening in DFW this weekend. One of them I didn't know about. And I would have been there had I known about it. There was a furry convention at the Sheridan downtown. And there's an article in the morning news about it today about people who were not happy about it. It looks like it was electric. Boy, how do you get the alert on that?

I know. We would have been there. Yeah. Or at least, Tray would have been there. But I was busy because as I told you guys. It's true, right? My social media feeds are primarily like local right-wing policy. and the local right-wing politics are pretty popular on the national stage.

I live in grapevine. A lot of times my kids stay at my mom's house on Saturday night. So on Saturday night when my wife went to bed, it was like 9.30, and I'd been watching all this stuff happening on social media at the CPAC, the conference that was in Grapevine, down the street from my house of the Gaylord. My pillow guy was there, you know, Nick Shirley was there. So, like around 10 o'clock, I took a couple of these little pills that a friend gave me who lives in the country, who grows his own psilocybin, and I went and walked around the Gaylord for like an hour and a half. Just hoping to run into?

I guess I just thought it would be a scene, and it really wasn't. I think it must have just by Saturday night be, like, dead. There was one bar that was kind of... The Gaylord's huge, dude. If you think, hey, I'm going to run into the... Hey, go walk. I'm not kidding, dude. For sure.

Go walk there. If you need a place to walk. No, I've been there many times. Yeah, if you think, oh, I'm going to go see... Oh, there's a cheerleading convention. I'll run into it. You're not going to run into somebody. There will be a convention there.

But you can ignore all those people. There could be five conventions there. Yeah. So, yeah, I... I wasn't like getting super effed up or anything. Just a little... What's in between micro and big? mid-dose.

Yeah. And a great place to walk around in that state, regardless, because it's just a weird building. It's fun. Yeah. You didn't really see anybody other than when I was leaving the guy from ice with the Hitler-y-looking haircut and the coat that everybody was mad about after Minneapolis. I think his name is Greg Bovino. He was just standing in the lobby, like taking pictures with people.

Oh, really? pictures. Why didn't you get in line? I don't know, dude. It didn't, because I know, honestly, I know myself. And I would have said something. Keep your mouth shut. And I would have not been allowed to go back to the water park at the Gaylord with my family.

And I also probably would have been arrested. Like at the end of the day, these people, it's funny to be like, who's the stupid guy from the news? This dude was in charge of like one of the most powerful like military bodies on earth. So I'll take my picture and walk to my car, sir.

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Lopez Shugart hyphenated? It is not. Okay. Why? I'm just curious about her buy-in for Gary. Yeah. Half-timing. I mean, if she's not bringing Gary Joy, then yeah, somebody has to.

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Is your woman having to flick her being incessantly? God bless that bassline ribs. Do you want to increase or reduce the risk of chronic diseases? I want to reduce them. Would you like to prevent colds or encourage them to happen more often to you? I'm probably going to go with Prevent. Rocking a hard place. Would you like to increase or decrease your fat?

These are questions you can ask yourself. Answer with the very obvious answer. And you will know that Game Day Men's Health is for you. 10% off TRT for life. They're not coming on the phone. 10% off TRT for life. The Game Day Men's Health, Denton location. Well, the guy's probably on another call.

He's the owner. No, that's why we needed to stay with her. Yeah, I know. Great bed, though. It's a good bed. Let's do it today in history, and then he'll join. Okay, just wait until he joins in. All right.

So it's Monday, March 30th. This is the day in 1846 that Dallas County was founded. Sweet. This is a sick idea. I love it. We just call places and use their whole music as our bed for a segment. Yeah, let me pause my bed. That's really good.

So we don't have our bed. No, it's good, go. Yeah, I like it. On this day in 1867, U.S. Secretary of State William H. Seward reached agreement with Russia to purchase the territory of Alaska for $7.2 million. A deal ridiculed by critics as Seward's Folly. Yeah. They thought that was a bad bit. It's like Sam Hinky.

He was trusting the process. On this day in 1981, Ronald Reagan was shot. He was the president at the time. By John Hinkley Jr. How'd your mom take that? I imagine not well. I imagine not well at all, Blake. When he pulled through, is that when Joe was conceived?

You have your time line is off, but that's fine. On this day in 1984, in a story that would be ripped from the headlines and taken to form a Nick Cage movie. New York police detective Robert Cunningham offers his waitress half of a $1 lottery ticket if it should hit. It did for $6 million and he gave her half. Now, looking into this a little bit this morning,

oh, nice. They were friends. They were old friends. He ate at this restaurant all the time. And he kind of said to her, hey, help me fill out the numbers in this. And if it hits, I'll give you half. This is John. Hey, John?

Yeah, this sounds like Dan McDowell. This is Dan McDowell, but I'm not alone. I'm with Jake K. Hey, John. And we're here to celebrate the fact that on this very day, March 30th, 2026, the Denton location of Game Day Men's Health is our Game Day location of the day. Wow. Nice. Wow. Congratulations. How does it feel?

It feels great. Very good. Yeah, where are you guys exactly up in Denton? So, very near breaker right next to the Buckees. So 35E right before it meets again with 35W. So, yeah, I just tell everybody we're right behind the Buckees. because that's where we're at. That'll do it.

How long have you had this location? So we just celebrated our first year open. So we just passed one year. Nice. All right. Starting to crawl around maybe. I don't know. I'm trying to remember baby.

What do babies do at the age of one? About 10 months. Blake's plays Halo. That's right. Blake's kid is already on TRT. His kid is four. You think that's safe? I don't think that is medically.

recommended, but you do you there. Okay, I just, I think he is. He's in the Manosphere. Anyway, are we still doing 10% 2%? 10% off for life, if you mention the dumb zone. If you mention the dumb zone, 10%

for life, yes, sir. Okay. Anything else special up there you guys got? You want to tell anybody to get some peptides. Get on that 157 like me. It's helping me. We've got a ton of peptides, yeah. Peptides are the big thing right now. Everybody's looking for them. and we got them.

And that's not something you have to do long term, right? I hear some people get scared off by TRT. Like, oh, it's long term. Peptide, you could just say, look, we're going on a lot. We're going to take a little few month run here and give it a shot, as it were. Yep, that's exactly right. You know, we traditionally do about three months on. And then we tell guys, hey, what's going, go find something else.

And if you like the other one, you can always go back. So, yeah, it's a great, great short-term thing that you can turn into a long-term thing. Can you do that, like, administer yourself at home? You have to. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Sweet. Well, Game Day Men's Health. This is John's store. Store? You don't call it a store, right? Yes, well, clinic. A clinic. You can call the store, but, yeah, clinic.

Yeah. Walk in there. Say hello to John. Go arm Russell, John. How do you feel you doing that? Yeah. Against some of the Denton listeners we have. I, some of those dudes are pretty big now.

Yeah. They've put on some, uh, some good muscles. So I don't know how I'd fare against some of those guys, but, uh, I'd give it a try. Okay. Well, John, thanks for your support and, uh, happy Monday. No, I appreciate it, guys. All right. There's, uh, there goes John.

There goes John. Let's get that hold music. Okay, so back to the story. Did he beat? I mean, so he goes and eats at this restaurant every day. Every single day, he makes friends with this waitress. He pays her $3 million. Do they ever make love?

No, no, no, no. They were just old friends. You got a lot of those female friends that you'd give $3 million to to just hang out with? I guess you would have to just say, but like I said, it wasn't like, hey, if this hits, I'm going to give you, like they worded it as if this was his tip. But they were just friends.

they both, I think they, you know, he bought the lottery ticket, said, I'll split this with you. Give me the number. Because she gave him the numbers. Okay. She gave him half the numbers. It's still pretty cool on his part. Yeah. Because he could have.

But he could have just said, uh, owners, you know. Yeah. On this day in 1999, oh, I have a little video, uh, on this. We don't need any sound on it. But it is, uh, supermodel Fabio. Do you know who that is? They might have used his picture on some of those books you read. Yeah.

Yeah. Ladies love Fabio. Yeah, he's got long hair. Got long hair. Do you have the video there? He was bloodied by a bird. This is how I found out who he was. Yeah, he was at Bush Gardens,

and he was there to promote, because he looks like a Greek god. So it was they opened a new ride called Apollo's Chariot. And so he gets to ride the roller coaster. and, I mean, you don't put him like in the middle. He's in the very, very front. So that long, flowing hair will be whipping in the wind of the roller coaster or whatever. So he goes on the roller coaster.

But while on the roller coaster, it was like a goose or some kind of a big bird. Oh, dang. He got messed up. Like hit his nose. Like his face went right into it. And he is totally bloody. Like, it's awesome. And yeah, he's none too pleased.

No. None too pleased about it. His job is to be attracted. The jester. And, yeah, so like in the front, there are young girls with him. It looks very Epsteiny, but they're dressed as Greek goddesses or whatever. Pretty fitting. Yeah.

And then, yeah. That's amazing. Oh, that's good. And then on this day in 2011, the name, of this whale is Tillacum. It is a killer whale. It killed its trainer in 2010. So on this day, what did they do? Did they finally euthanize this whale? Or did it resume performing for the first time since the woman's death in Orlando, Florida at SeaWorld? It resumed performing. Did they do it to honor the dead trainer? Well, see, I know that this is a story about capitalism.

but in my mind, it is a story about blaming the trainer for the death. Like, why are we going to retire him? It was his idiot's fault. Right. He's a killer whale. Right. He's the one bringing in the money. Dude, Tillicum is the star of...

No one's buying SeaWorld tickets to see this chick train. Right. No. Tillacum is the star of, what was it, black fish or... Yeah. The SeaWorld movie. Tillacom put up, like, Warren Jeff's numbers. Like, the entire farm system was from...

his till he comes. Like his seed was 200 whales. Till I come. Is his name? I have to figure it had something to do with it, right? Yeah. Why else are you naming him that?

We'll keep him till he comes. So it's March 30th, this day in Dumb Zone history. In 2021, we did a segment on this. At the time, the thunder had just gone 22 and 50 in the NBA short, the shortened season of 2021. They were sitting on 34 picks through 2027.

But that'll never work. Yeah, they won't really be good. It can't. I don't know. I would like to find anybody who thought that it wouldn't. They must have had like a great player, like one of the top players in all of basketball to trade to get those picks. I mean, no, not really. Paul George.

Okay, yeah. He's certainly a top three player. Everybody. This was a crow line call that I don't. I don't think I've ever seen Jake laugh harder. Whenever the guy said that I was the show Castrato. Do you remember what that is then? No.

I think it's in Italy. Some period of time, pre-Picaso, they had a type of music that was just castrated boys because they're the only ones that could hit the notes and sing it away. Okay. That they liked it. So they would cut their stuff off and they would live lots. as they were called castratos. Because they were castrated.

Yeah, but they were like beautiful boy singers. That was the open for today in 2021. And then in 2020, we had what we called the Pizza Dog incident where this was probably show two or three in the den. Yeah. And Jake hadn't quite learned that you can't leave food on the ground just yet. And so it was the next iteration of Moron Dog.

Okay, so obviously a couple of things. Not the chicken box. By the way, you might have a problem on your hands because I think the dog just got one of the pieces of pizza. Oh, no. And she appears or he appears like I'm going to get bit if I try. Maybe don't let him eat the pizza. This is Moran Dog part two. I'm sorry.

I had it over here and they got into my stuff. Yeah. Sorry. So the upshot there is that Steve Blake missed. two games at the end of the regular season with chicken pox. He had that whole thing in his mouth. Yeah, I know. By the way.

I know. I'm trying to press forward. You had it on the ground? Well, I had it in my thing on the ground, but yeah, it was like in this and this was slightly a jar. All right. Yeah, that's my bet. Sorry. I forgot there were animals up here.

So, first of all, Steve Blake is a, he's in the rotation for the lake at this point. I love that you're just plowing forward with Steve Blake. You may love it. I got to stay on this soon. I hate it. I can't stand listening to. early me who did not seem to understand entertainment and just plowed through. I could have word for word recreated the entire moron dog thing with you right there.

We all know it. Could done anything other than try to relive the 2011 NBA finals, which is I believe what I was doing. You were. It was a good segment. And yeah, you're right. Steve Blake did have the chicken box. It could have been better. Never forget.

If we just focused on the pizza and the moronic dog, though. Other birthdays today, Billy Kundiff is 46. I thought he was awesome. I think the stats would argue with you. Really? Yeah, dude. He was just the Cowboys kicker and you knew his name. Okay.

Dude, I found a, for some reason I found an old email. Maybe I should do this tomorrow. It was from Blake who had given me, let's see. It was like a 2021 email. Blake sent me all the cowboy kicker percentages since the year 2000, up through 2021. And you've got your very high is like Dan Bailey, 93% one year. You have your mids. But then you had Billy Kundiff at 63% in 2002.

Made 63% of his field goals. Yeah, that's not good. Then all of a sudden Brandon gets here. He's like, what about 94.7%? What if I did that? He's asking for 10 million a year. greedy. And then here's Blake's notes.

Greg Zerline, 83%, but then he writes, two of five from 50%, where he was supposed to be a, quote, weapon. A little editorializing. Yeah, I don't know if we needed that. Weapon from long range. Yeah, two of five from, do you remember Greg the leg? Greg the leg. Oh, dude, they're going to try it from 50.

It'll be great. Greg Zerline. Who could ever kick it from 50? He could even kick like a 55-yarder. Now Brandon's like Hold My Beer I hate that bit by the way Hold My Beer

Do you hate Hold My Beer? Do we all hate Hold My Beer? Yeah Just saying it Toby Goan is 51 He was the Cowboys punter Hmm Richard Sherman is 38 Alex Bregman is 32

Chris Sale is 37 He's today's war games winner Boy I bet He's good again. Really? Like now? This weekend. Yeah, I don't know.

Everybody thought he was done. Then he had a great year, either last year or the year before. Charlie Weiss is 70. He's still alive. He's still alive. He's still alive. If you think that's still alive, let me give you Warren Beatty is 89.

And if you think that's still alive, let me give you John Aston, 96. the dad and the Adams family. Oh, wow. Father of Sean Aston. Actually, stepfather of Sean Ashton. I've come to find out.

Father who stepped up. But what's that? Not the stepfather, the father who stepped up. Yeah. That's a big thing. Really? Yeah. You get on a shirt, you know?

I bet your dad loves that. No, yeah, but my stepdad would never, ever, ever, like, wear a shirt like that or say it. But you will see it, dude. I've seen shirts. Oh, I've seen shirts. Richard Rawlings is 57. Gas Milwaukee Garage. That's right.

You know him? I bet you do. Does he a blaze guy? Yes. They used to shoot part of the show there, too. Maggie Baird is 67. She was an actress. She was a teacher in the groundlings.

Hmm. And she's the mother of Billy Eilish. Oh, wow. Okay. Who hides them things. Not anymore. She still kind of tucks him away, but it's occasionally. Yeah, let the pups out at the park every time.

Paul Reiser is 70. For some reason, I just think Blake probably loves Paul Reiser. Dude, I hated that show so much. What is the show? Matt about you. I mean, I've already made my feelings on Helen Hunt known. It just feels like that would be a show that you would watch. It does.

Is that an old, too old for you? Yeah. But it's the same format, right? They didn't have kids. Did they? I don't know. I just remember thinking it felt... I thought Helen Hunt looked good at you.

Liberal. MC Hammer is 64. Pierce Morgan is 61. Donna Diarico is 58. Pierce got mugged by Clav. They arrested Clav over the weekend, by the way. way, Dan. What's clav? I hate that I understood that sentence.

Clavicular. Yeah. My looks maxing. Locked up. They arrested. Why isn't that in the news? Not really much. Henry's not here. Henry. He got arrested for I'm now following clavicular. His, uh, his girlfriend got in a fight with another influencer

at their house and he was like there. Donna Diarico, back, she was in Baywatch. Which is coming back. And then she went in, she was in Playboy, and I was thinking Livy Duns in it, right?

Oh yeah? Yeah. Donna Deerico. I just got to thinking, there's no more, like that Playboy used to exist and it would be a place for your tasteful nudes to be put out and you could make a million dollars.

Yeah, but you're not in the OnlyFans game. You think that everybody on OnlyFans is getting P and V and they're not. A substantial portion of OnlyFans of only fans are chicks not showing, you know, roast beef for a full nip. They're tastefully nude. Yeah, but that's, you have to subscribe to that. What are you paying for?

I can't just go, uh, get me a playboy at the gas station and see a lady from Baywatch. Yeah, I know. Or the girls of the SEC. Like, we need that. You actually probably could. I bet some only fans are single, like single use. But my point is that there is, there are women selling content that are not, you know, the full Orlando magic around her.

Speaking of that, we haven't seen those two magazines we got in a while. Yeah, Dan. I'm just doing our porno. He's just hammering it all day, man. I mean, what do you think I did during the back to the den? Donna DeRicro is still very hot. Yeah. My goodness.

Who knew? You could still be hot at 58. Rapper NF is 50, excuse me, 35. Do I know him? I thought you guys would for sure. He's a white rapper. No, I'm out. Nathan Feuerstein.

That's a weird name. Very much. It's kind of like furor. You're like, oh, okay, oh wait. Oh, yeah, okay, canceled out. Yeah, I guess he's, it's fine. I thought you would have been fired up about this guy. Don't know.

Our dumb zone birthday of the day runner up is Eric Clapton, 81. Sun Tide. He has the mama mentality. Because he profited off the death of his kid. Like he's writing lyrics as he's down to floor 14. Floor 10. Dumb's on birthday of the day, actress. By the way, the AP started somewhere.

I started calling him everybody actors. Started calling it like it says here actor Donna Diarico. That's a W.HL. It is, you know, because... The Academy Awards, still has best actress. What are we doing? If you want to just say everybody's in, all right, do everybody's in one pool then? Because I would agree with you.

There is, why would that be different than, it's not like athletics? I think it's just because of opportunities. More people get to win awards. Yeah. No, our actress is the dumb zone birthday today. Katie Mixon is 45. Go search her. Eastbound and down?

You will agree. Oh, my goodness. She's nice and juicy. we like her we like her folks Katie Mixing yeah she's great I'm a big fan

I mean she fluctuates quite a bit but a little too big what do you know I used to love her until I found out she used a body double and eastbounded down

and I thought for what she takes her top off except it's not her when I found out wasn't her I was very disappointed it's not really April's no it's not April's

It's weird. Yeah. You'd be like, okay, I don't want to do this personally, but I will have a body double do that. Yeah. Hmm. No, I don't think that's weird at all. I think that's a normal thing for an actor or actress to think.

I think what's weird is if you're Blake to then think less of the person afterward because you feel duped in some way. Like you were a consumer who was fooled. Well, you ever find out your... Put an asterisk next to that crime. Yeah, you ever find out your beat wasn't wholesome? It's going to mess up my record books. It's like you were catfished.

A little bit. He was disappointed. Yeah. Sorry. Thought those were April's. Born on this day now dead, Vincent Van Gogh. $1,600. Yeah, give me late, $1,6,80.

1870. Foodie. 1853 to 8,000. 1890. Damn. I told my daughter about him the other day. Burned bright. You told her about what?

The ear thing. It came up somehow. That's odd. Either she knew who Van Gogh was or she knew of a story of something, yeah. Oh, was it because you guys were watching Reservoir Dogs again?

I think it probably was, yeah, just that part. She's like, hey, that's like Van Gogh. Right, and we had just finished the Tyson-Holyfield fight. Yeah. Also, born on the stay now, said Secretariat. Secretariat is the horse won the triple crown in 1973. Secretariat died in 1989, so 19 years old, which made me wonder this morning.

How old do horses get? Like, is that a young death? Is that an old death? Can a horse be 50? For real? I would have thought 20 was, like, crazy old for a horse. Because, I mean, if they're killing them when they're that young, when they're jacking, up. It must be that there's not like a ton left.

Well, I think it was just... You tell me a horse can live to 50? It's not they're killing. They're killing because they can't fix a horse's bone. I know. 25 to 30. So it's pretty old, but like they take care of it. That's old in horse ears.

But my point is just like, well, it doesn't matter. And also... Bucket required. Also born on this day now dead. Irv Brown. You may know him from Denver Radio, the Irv and Joe show. Glorious. The Irvin Joe game.

A Trailblazer. Dead on this day, still dead. Taking calls. Mitch Headberg. Died on this day in 2005. Is there any chance? It's good. It's not great, but it's good.

That Mitch Headberg is overrated. Yes, there is a chance. His death helped him. Because I've never... But every niche comic is overrated by people. Because the people who like them like them way too much. but he's a niche comic, right? It's like carrot top almost.

It's not as much of a bit as Carrot Top, but it's just like he's doing something that is clearly only he does it. But I bet you if Carrot Todd died in his quote-unquote prime, he'd be vastly overrated. But now you seem in Vegas all the time. He's like, okay, enough. Mitch Headberg is a great comic.

I don't know that you would ever... I think you have a bad argument on... For some reason, I can't see Caratop ever being overrated. My point is just that... Like, you wouldn't know, dude, he had a trunk full of stuff. Well, he has a career somehow from having a bit, and he's not funny. Same thing with, like, Gallagher. Although maybe Gallagher was great.

Mitch Hedberg is funny. I just think that the wrapping paper, people get really, really into it if you can do something different. Like, do you think Stephen Wright is overrated? Because he's certainly niche. I don't, but I can see... They're in the same vein. Because I think he's great and not overrated, but then I've seen Mitch Hedberg

because everybody says you got to watch Mitch Hedberg. He's funny. That's what I think, yeah. Funny. Yeah, I'm with you. But he's not saying anything like this. And that's what happened on this day in history. Well, boys, we did it.

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