The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 4-16-26 | Wings PR denies relationship questions and Shaun Rabb in studio
Episode Date: April 16, 2026Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneThe Dallas Wings have decided they will not entertain any questions asked about Azzi Fudd and Paige... Bueckers's relationship, Dianna Russini resigns from The Athletic amidst the Mike Vrabel controversy, and Fox 4 and Trackdown's, Shaun Rabb, joins us in studio (00:00) - Open: WHL The Moon edition (27:05) - Dianna Russini resigns (43:57) - Wings shoot down relationship question (53:48) - Big Thursday Viewer Mail Bag (01:26:05) - Fox 4's Shaun Rabb (01:58:46) - News: Plano using AI for graduation (02:22:07) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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I saw KT.
This morning.
It's like a sports center commercial.
So KT.C.K. was here.
That's right
And we're here
Yeah sorry
I walked in a second late
It's the first time I've done that I think
Had the situation where you're in the bathroom
There's two stalls but there's really only one
Place to wash your hands
And you can tell when you finish from the
The sound
So I know we're both done at the same time
You don't want to go stand there
You just have to wait right
Hmm
You wait.
You act like they're not there.
You don't go out and just stand behind them or just have a little small talk.
Hey.
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I stay.
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I thought they said we get a lot of rain this week.
Yeah, what's going on, man?
It's so hot this morning.
That was a beautiful day yesterday.
Business Wednesday was?
Yeah.
Don't you marry it, you homo.
On today's program.
Not in America.
We will promote.
tomorrow's program, which is doing the show from Elixir Uptown.
Elixir.
That's not just a bar, right?
It's like a club.
It's like a lifestyle.
I like that.
Yeah.
We'll be at Elixir Uptown tomorrow.
From 1130 to 230.
You know, we're not out and about on a Friday afternoon at a bar all that often.
So, no.
Come hang out.
Thanks a lot, Obama.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
that's tomorrow
today
you know we got sports
and viewer mail and things that you expect
on a Thursday but we also have
Fox 4's
Sean Rab in studio
wow
now right now
he's probably tracking down somebody
so I'm hoping
he'll be back in time
meeting Sean Rab
and realizing how he works would be like if you
met Troy Aikman and every time you
talk to Troy Eggman. He had a football in his hand and he was throwing it.
He's always on the phone. He's literally always doing that job.
Great.
Great dude. I think. I don't know why.
Yeah, maybe. I paused. I was like, you might be about to tell us he's.
Anyway, he'll be on the show later today. But I do have a couple of why Hillary lost to start the show.
Okay.
Unless you guys want to trump me. You got something better?
Well, I don't want to be
I don't want to be competing now
But if you'd like to go
And then I'll go after
Okay, well someone had sent me this
Why Hillary Lost
Really a nice little
We tried to replace
Gay Not Gay with like gongk
Rogonk
And nothing ever really stuck
But it feels like this one is almost a
Right
This is a
It's naturally occurred
That these are all the same things
people used to email us for that segment.
And now we just, yeah.
Okay.
It's a secret?
No, I mean, and I'm proud of the audience for being like,
it has nothing to do with politics, even though it does.
So it's cool.
So these are both space-related.
I have two of them.
One headline.
Artemis 2 Moon Commander broke NASA Protocol in the best way.
The headline already makes me feel like California's in play.
It was Reed Wiseman had one last decision to make before leaving the spacecraft post-splash-down.
He's the commander, so he leaves last, right?
Now NASA's post-splash-down checklist says,
leave everything in the capsule, get out.
But he had to grab the little plushy moon toy.
That's super cute.
called Rise
because
I don't know
the way they're writing this
it's kind of like
this is the volleyball
that Tom Hanks
had on the island
like he's like
after 10 days
floating alongside
the little plushy
he's like
he says on X on Twitter
I was supposed to leave Rise
in integrity
but that was not
something I was going to do
okay that's incredible
obvious side note here when you said X, I'm still from the old school.
I immediately thought ecstasy.
He said, well, he said on X.
No, no, no.
Something wild.
This guy's really celebrating, getting home.
Now what if the astronauts were on drugs when they were up there?
Yeah, and I can tell you, Blake, I would actually way prefer to send party drug addicts up there than people that bond with stuffed animals.
Like, how serious are we taking this operation?
We have a plushy?
After the first human visit to the moon in nearly 54 years,
Rise also became a symbol far beyond serving as a demonstration of when integrity left Earth's gravity.
Crew members would often play with Rise during live-streamed conversations with Earth.
Please tell me it's spelled with the Y.
It's not, unfortunately.
And the toy also took over NASA's social media streams mid-minute.
So this is kind of a Mavrello.
Got it.
Ballovich type thing, right?
We're doing bits.
Now, have they sold, I guess you already said this,
have they sold 100,000 of these or something to...
They haven't yet, but what if we put up a force field here?
A prototype of the mascot.
A much less advanced version than a stuff of a stuffed animal?
was inscribed with the name Carol.
Carol is the name of the commander's wife who died in 2020 of cancer.
Oh.
The crew suggested naming a moon crater after her,
and that suggestion is sent to the International Astronomical Union,
which is the official arbitrator of astronomical monikers.
So I don't know.
How about you just say it's named after it?
Who cared?
Right.
Like, is it, it's all fake anyway, right?
I think it's hilarious.
No.
I bought a star for my girlfriend in high school.
That's legit.
It's hilarious that people are so stoked on property rights that we have a commission that you have to submit to to be like, which rock.
Like, how are you going to go pick that one out?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Ah, hey, woo, who, hands off.
Actually, I named a molecule in this room after my daughter.
I bought that crater for tax purposes.
The naming body would be worth it.
they blocked it.
They said no carol.
Yeah.
They have a...
They're like a secret society like.
Anyway, that...
That's very much a W-H-L.
One more.
This was...
Can I just say this real quick?
Because I feel like I have to fight the space thing, especially hard right now.
It's trying to have a moment, which means...
Are you going the other way?
My light is shot.
No, hell no.
Oh, okay.
You know, a lot of times when you go after the space people, they're like, these are war
heroes. A lot of these guys flew missions.
A lot of these guys were, blah.
If that is
the narrative that you want out there, I wouldn't
send stuffed animal up there with
him that he has to rescue
like he's on Iwojima.
I don't know.
Because to me, it seems like it's just the
type of kids I always thought that were into
space.
They grew up, and now they still have stuffed
animals. When they went to space
camp to maybe make it through the
time away. They had to have their favorite plushy
from home. Exactly.
It's not, I don't, I just don't, they make
it sound like we're sending John Cena up there.
Would it be funny? I don't buy it.
You know how like, people follow
orders or people die, right? That's a
Jack Nicholson on the stand thing or whatever.
Would it be funny if they court-martialed this guy?
Orders are orders.
Like, what if
appealing to the president? He's like, he broke the law.
Yeah, what if we sent somebody to the, whatever, and then they
decided for their own fun, they were going to do that.
You don't understand.
There's a lot of decisions we make high above.
You don't need to know all the intricacies of why we need it followed.
Right.
So if we say leave the goddamn plushy in the capsule, you leave the plushy in the capsule.
That's it.
And that's it.
You want to be a leader.
And you are now breaking big rocks and making them into smaller rocks.
Yep.
In Leavenworth.
Right.
Is that a thing you thought of as a kid to?
Oh, yeah.
Like as a kid.
Quicksand, Leavenworth.
Like, oh, shit.
Fort Knox.
Leavenworth.
God, damn.
What did it?
Well, they got at Fort Knox.
To localize it a little bit for you, everyone knew Huntsville growing up.
Okay.
So that was a big scare.
Old Sparky at Huntsville?
For sure.
For sure.
The one other thing is even better.
So I wanted to go into that, which was sent to me as a W.HL.
And they said, this is what the email said, I think I found one of those nasty little reasons Hillary didn't win.
Or however you phrase it.
back in 2017, and here's the headline.
Boy, it could be anything in that era.
MTV
renames the Video Music Award, the actual award, the Video Music Award trophy.
Do you remember the trophy was called Moon Man?
They have renamed it in favor of a gender-free space traveler,
which will henceforth be known as moon person.
That's a give up.
MTV's president, Chris McCarthy,
said in addition to getting rid of the gendered categories
at the MTV Movie Awards and upcoming VMAs,
winners would be taking home the gender neutral figure.
So now a guy can win best kiss?
I'm against it.
No doubt.
Why should it be a man?
Josh Hardin had some bangers back in the day.
Here's one of those problems where, and I don't know how they sorted this out logistically,
but where equality can create less opportunities, right?
Like you're cutting half the categories or a substantial amount of them.
They're just going to be less people who win.
For sure.
And this is obviously what you see across the board.
When those sorts of policies get put in, they don't always, you can't get yourself out of them.
Also, name it something better.
I was just trying to do a little thought brainstorming in my head here.
I got nothing, but moon people ain't doing.
doing it.
Which is the bad, it doesn't have to end a person.
Luna.
It's kind of a they name anyways.
Yeah, the Luna Award.
Go for it.
You definitely need less syllables.
Adding syllables.
Unacceptable.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
Why should it be a man, says MTV President Chris McCarthy.
It could be a man.
Could be a woman.
It could be transgender.
It could be nonconformist.
God.
I know it's a man because it doesn't have giant boobs.
Right.
And because it's getting to do stuff.
I would, a penny for that guy's thoughts in 2026 at his private equity firm where he's, you know,
DEI, dude, he's the one.
That's the thing.
It's all the guys who are telling us this stuff as part of corporate statements who are now, in any case.
I think this, what do you got?
I'm just looking for where he is now.
Yeah.
Former CEO of Showtime.
What's his name?
Chris McCarthy.
The nice thing about this one.
one is it happened nine years ago and we've been able to see the way that our world is flourished
and it's really turned around because they named it moon person.
Everyone's cool to each other now.
I don't know if this is quite a WHL, but the other day Dan was called in to serve as
a reaper and mortician for a small bunny that got caught up in his pool filter situation
and had to dispose of it.
And it just got us thinking, you know,
Dan's not really like the handiest guy in the world, right?
Like, hey, if I went over.
I think you're great.
I would, if I went to Dan's house and needed something fixed, I would say 50-50 coin flip on whether Kathy or Dan would be able to fix it.
And at my house, it's like 90-10.
My wife is the one who fixes stuff.
I bought her a table saw for Mother's Day one year.
Like, that is, I'll get into paint and get boards.
She's the one doing stuff that requires a brain, right?
Like making stuff, fixing things.
So in the same way that we want to have two categories for the awards at these shows, we want a quality, right?
Well, then tell me why I was hit with this this morning.
Now, what I heard from far away was, ugh, Jake.
And that obviously means something gross, something that's going to require me.
This has in the past been a former Aggie linebacker's dead chickens.
it has been diarrhea from the dog it could be diarrhea you know but i don't know if it's a dead bunny or a
dead chicken i feel like it plays but what's up what is it what is it dog vomit why didn't you
need to me because i'm not the vomit person what does that mean i i vomit vomit yeah
it's on the it's all over a rug oh and i knew that it was going to be something
Something way, yeah.
I'm not.
Because you're the dirt bag that will go out and you clean the poo off of the fake grass in the back yard.
But it just got me thinking there is nothing biological about that.
No, it's just I think it's gross and I don't want to do it.
Yeah, she just.
And I have this person.
Why didn't you mean to?
Because I'm not the vomit person.
What does that mean?
I don't, I'm not good at the vomit.
Okay.
So yeah, I, uh.
I'm with her a little bit, though.
I mean, there's a vomit person in that relationship.
It's definitely you.
That definitely...
If I have something disgusting to clean up.
But...
So maybe I...
There's something at the bottom of that garbage bin.
I should take more pride in this.
There's something at the bottom of that dumpster.
I think maybe.
One of us should go in and...
Like, who's being like, I'll do it?
Who cares, man?
I'll eat...
I'll eat stuff in there.
Me?
Yeah.
Okay, I like that.
You flipped it to where this is a feature, not a bug.
But it's just...
I don't know.
No, it's a weird thing.
They have to...
That women are...
I've seen her...
She's seen some gross stuff too
because I saw it come out of her.
But she's like the...
I'm the make-money person.
And now I use my subservient
little guy here to clean it up.
Right?
Yeah, I suppose so.
It's good.
I think if we go by the standard of...
If I think it's gross,
then I don't have to clean it up,
then the vomit's going to sit there
for the rest of time.
Yeah.
I mean...
It would have...
I was going to say it would have been there for a while.
My wife can walk around.
I also think it's gross to T.C.'s point, yeah.
And this is just another quick one here.
I found myself in a position where I was getting dinner for myself last night,
and it was kind of late.
And when I do that a lot of times, I order enough food for the next day.
That's a big part of my game.
Because if you're going to pay for the meal out,
I feel like getting to two meals is the sweet spot where the value becomes a little better.
It's usually deals.
And there's a portillo's by my house.
Portillo's is a famous Chicago restaurant.
It's first place T.C. took me when I went to Chicago with him for the first time.
The portillo's in grapevine.
It's probably 70% of what it's like to eat there, but it's still special.
They ain't no wine burger, right?
But great Italian beef.
I went last night, and they served me something with my sandwich and my fries and my –
I got some nugs to.
Nice.
You remember?
What time is this dinner?
Later than you'd like.
That's what I want to.
I just want to be mad.
It was 9.50.
It was 9.50.
It's just weird that you could actually,
there's some nights you're actually dead asleep by then.
It's becoming less and less.
And then there's another night you're actually now sitting down to eat.
I wasn't going to announce it on the show.
I'm amazed by your.
But I am double shifting fully now.
I'm going to bed at like midnight.
So I go back to the.
computer at like nine, drink some coffee, and start effing around.
All right.
So I'm up.
But you remember when I used to drink alcohol?
And they would have these things called beer flights.
Do you know what that is, Dan?
Yeah.
You get like four little guys or something?
Four or five little guys.
Well, Portillo's now has an item on their menu that you can get with your stuff.
It's just a sauce flight.
Oh, wow.
They put, if you get it up there, you'll see it.
But it's like five different sauces.
They put them in little.
And you're all excited.
Yeah, they put them in a little cardboard container for you.
As you can see, it's laid out on the cartray there.
Buttermilk ranch, barbecue sauce, honey mustard, comeback sauce.
That's got a little kick to it.
You got to think a guy who is in rehab.
I don't know how to say that word, T.C.
Gia Darnera.
A guy who is in rehab.
Gardner.
Jardinere.
A guy from rehab was in a.
brainstorming meeting after this.
We have an inch to scratch.
Let's put sauce in there.
Yeah.
It's 100%.
I felt his energy coming to me through the cardboard box for sauces.
And I neatly took all five of them off and sampled them just like I was at the craft brewery.
One more quick hit for you.
Then we'll move on to sports.
Just personal item.
I'd like to tell you about my...
I was doing a little bragging.
I maybe uh who's one of those guys real famous for like he'll drop that touchdown right at the
half yard line.
Deshawn Jackson did it.
Who's our Falcon from last, or the Arizona Cardinal.
The Arizona Cardinal.
Yeah.
Former Horn Frog.
Anyway.
Beyond Led.
I was telling you how my wife the week before had canceled dinner with, uh, with Deb and
Melissa.
Baby's at the 40.
And so then she.
wasn't allowed. She couldn't cancel. You know, she even told me, I kind of don't want to go to
like, like, I don't know, I don't feel like it. You know, you always don't feel like it once it's coming.
Anyway, Deb canceled on her.
B.B. Strips the ball from what. She did call me with a, hey, good news. That's the worst part.
And then I had to give her a boo, like, ooh, I already picked up dinner. Sorry.
Oh. You're going to have to get some dinner on the way. A little rebuttal.
Yeah.
And so she did.
She showed up a little later.
But it wasn't the glorious night alone of doing whatever.
Actually, that's going to be in viewer mail today, too.
Somebody's going to ask some stuff.
I got one quick thing, because this is, like, taken off online,
and I think it's almost a lie.
But have you guys been seeing this naked mom theory floated around?
Please.
Do tell.
apparently people's mom growing up would just walk around the house naked and apparently that is good for you
to not view nudity as like strictly sexual or a private thing yeah i mean i would say that i'm aware of
this concept on a spectrum um because i mean i hope he's cool like you said it dan dan would
dan shrewd with his daughters like when they were older than i guess bob thought but i'll
shower with North. I know it sounds weird. I would do it right now. I haven't done it in a while,
but I would. Like, I just, it's just not weird to me. Uh, it hasn't gotten weird yet. I'm not saying
it would never get to a weird point, but I would. They see, they will see me naked occasionally,
and it's not weird. They'll see mom's boobs occasionally. We're not walking around naked,
but if they're in the bedroom when we're changing, I'm not going to, like, have them move. Do you,
what, where are you on that? Well, I just figure with boys, it's, I don't know. I mean, I
We all got the same stuff.
Listen, TC and I ask this question.
Once upon a time, everybody's got to try to conjure up.
When's the last time you saw your dad's dick?
Sorry, Dan, you're excluded from this game.
Because I remember.
I want my daughter's answer to be like, man, I don't think I've seen it.
I know.
And it's too late.
It's not too late.
I'm maintaining a great record.
Yeah, I don't know if my kids would have some kind of a memory of that
because, yes, if I was showering with them and they were five or something, I don't remember the age.
Might have been six.
Might have been older.
Yeah, I don't think I've done it in a while, but I don't think it would be weird.
But they're, yes, they, it wouldn't have been viewed as something weird and this is standing out.
And I'm going to remember this because this is weird that there's a man in here.
Because roughly her, it was just weirdest two people that were dirty.
Her brain related to your genitals and sex is in roughly the same place right now as it was when she was two.
And I wasn't flopping the genitals.
Like, hey, see you're here?
You're going to try to actually be a little...
You turn away from them.
Like, I'll stay in the corner kind of a way.
But that's the same as the dog, right?
That's because I'm trying to...
I just don't want to...
Anybody rubbing.
So just some points of that, nakedness was never inherently scandalous to you.
It was normal.
You have zero body dysmorphia.
You grew up seeing what a real adult woman looks like.
Oh, okay.
You become comfortable in your own skin.
You accept all natural body types.
You have healthy boundaries around nudity.
They're trying to say, like,
I'd like to call bullshit on the fact that this is very prevalent, though.
That's what I think.
Or like it was prevalent.
I don't think people did grow up with.
I don't think, yeah.
With people just walking around naked throughout the house, like, hey, it's dinner.
I would have, I bet there were some families.
A little more than hiding it forever, but.
Yeah, I don't know.
But I would also say that the problem is, well, two things.
You know, you can't stand on the edge of the beach with your hand up when there's a tidal wave.
So unless your plan is to fully like extract your child from pop culture, society, like, okay, what are you going to do whenever they go outside and everyone has clothes on and everyone, they see images of idealized beauty?
What are you going to do?
It's same as anything, right?
They're going to leave your house.
And then the second thing is maybe clothes and maybe nudity is not meant to be scandalous, but sex is, like by almost every moral convention, there's some protection.
there's some protection of who you're supposed to have sex with, right?
And that, so there is always going to be something to your junk.
I mean.
Yeah, I mean, I understand parts of this.
And I do think it.
I think making your kids not afraid of sex is a genuinely good idea
because I spent a couple years apologizing to God every time I masturbated.
So I would like to avert that iceberg.
Do you do it in front of them then?
In front of God?
I meant your kids, but I guess all of them.
Well, God's always watching.
If you're trying to break them into the idea.
Sure.
Well, you're always facing the back of the toilet, though,
so it's hard for them to really see that.
I'm up on a tank there.
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Yeah, interesting play.
I do think that it was predicted.
I don't remember who predicted it to me,
but somebody predicted she's going to resign slash step away
and she'll say, I'm doing this because I just want peace for everyone involved,
but she's doing this so that more stuff doesn't come out.
But two things can be true, I guess.
They're kind of the same thing.
So she has resigned from her role.
almost with the athletic, which essentially now, I always kind of laugh whenever you even
mention the New York Times thing because I'm like, I don't give it, whatever. Yes, it does say
NY Times, but I still don't think of it as that at all. No. But you know who does? The public
when you get in trouble. Because now every article I see is New York Times reporter Diana
Rusini. It'd be like if Bob got mixed up in something almost. New York Times writer Bob Stern.
Right. It's the athletic. It's the.
the end of the day.
But liability-wise, it's certainly the New York Times.
And so her resigning, and she also says, I'm doing it now before the contract runs out like in August.
So it's only a few months or something.
But does this just verify everything?
Well, I mean, again, I think that depends on how you look at it.
If you believe her, then you would say that it doesn't verify it.
It's her saying this process of being investigated and having everything in my life turned upside down,
even if I'm not like full-scale cheating on my husband, it's going to be painful for a lot of people.
That's not going to stop your sports Nick Shirley, though, from trying to figure it out.
Or Pablo Torre or somebody like, that doesn't, oh, you're not working there anymore?
Okay.
Probably not.
Done and dusted.
Yeah, you're going to still follow up the exact.
same way. It's just there will be, so is this a forced resignation? Yeah, in a sense.
Okay. Because you're saying the lie bill. Because it is, I don't know,
banging or not banging, I don't really care, because I don't, I think if they were banging,
I don't think that she was doing that in order to get the scoop of, wait, you want, you're interested in
A.J. Brown? Excellent. I can now report that.
Gets real blurry, though.
That bang and I didn't want to do really paid off, though,
because I'm the only one that reported on A.J. Brown.
If he has a scoop, he's not going to give it to someone else.
True. But what does that all mean?
See, that's a better question.
We're kind of playing in a fake universe here.
All of these things don't really matter, right?
Again, I know it's the New York Times, but...
It was like the Olivia Nuzzi...
People die whenever they report...
positions of military or they blow people's cover or at least theoretically could
even if they don't sure so it's harder for me to get that fired up about any of this because
everybody does have we've already talked so many times about how everybody's got their not pet cat
that's your favorite draft possibility right it's everybody's got their little little mouthpiece
little bit and their piece is derogatory they're skewing it you know there are lebron
people that have real good connection with Maverick Carter, right?
And they'll get the, oh, they get these scoops.
And all of a sudden, we know this before anybody else.
And they also kind of put out the positivity vibes about if you were bagging on
LeBron for something else, these people will be like, actually, that's not as bad as,
you know, they're all mouthpieces for somebody, kind of, to make sure they can get that
next scoop.
Who's the NFL one?
Shefter, right?
Didn't he get caught up and asking a GM before he printed something?
Like, hey, does this look all right with you?
Yeah.
That's not how reporters.
Yeah, the whole.
It's not how reporters deal with things.
But it is in the world of sports that is this fantasy world that doesn't really matter.
And so, yeah, Diana Rusini's whatever, flirting or, you know, you've seen guys will talk to,
who's this, Scotty Sheffler the other day?
Yeah.
It was all friendly and fun with the hot reporter that asked him a question.
And then when T.C. walked up, he was like, you know, I don't want to throw T.C.
Or you walked up, you know, it was not that fun.
It's because, oh, you're a jackass.
You're a guy.
You're not someone that I could potentially somewhere see myself with.
Yeah.
I guess I get it from the standpoint that it is, the Schfter email thing is pure, like straight up.
up, if you care, journalistic malpractice.
Asking a source or anyone who's not your editor, what do you think of this?
A subject of a piece.
But I don't think that it's the exact same as having sex with somebody in your line of work
if you've been told not to do that, right?
That's really what this comes down to.
Told not to do that?
They were probably pretty explicitly, don't you think there's something contractual?
where they write it vague enough to where they can fire you for this.
Like if we determine that you have compromised your reporting by being involved in the following type of relationships,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
One of them's romantic or sexual, then we can deem that you are in violation of this.
I would bet that's in there.
Whereas, well, I mean, I guess that would apply to Schefter 2.
It's tough for me to say whether somebody or not should be fired or lose their job when I don't think their job should have.
exist in the first place.
I certainly don't buy that this has any.
I don't think anything should happen to Mike Vrable.
I heard two women that I actually like the show.
Don't worry.
It won't.
Yeah, some people are like, he's going to have to answer for this in the room.
I saw someone on TV, a former Patriot.
Like, players will care?
I saw a former Patriot on one of their shows.
Your mic's off.
Your mic was off.
Sorry.
Oh, sorry.
What, like, you know, hey, there's a sign in that building that when you walk,
walk in.
It says,
do the right thing.
You know,
some bullshit like that.
And it's like,
how's Vrable gonna?
I mean, dude,
let me tell you what's going to happen.
He's going to walk in the meeting
for the first time and Stefan Diggs,
or whoever's there,
is going to be at the front of the room
going like this,
pretending to have sex with Diana Rossini.
Yeah.
As the whole whole teams,
oh, Braves.
They're going to have a Rusini audible.
Right.
Who's the first this year?
and if you hear DR.
To do it against them?
Anybody.
Residi, residi.
It won't be shoddy.
I mean, you've got a right call right there if you need it.
It's fake, like her reporting, right?
It's a play action call.
You could get there pretty easily.
I like that.
Let's see.
There's just a lot of attitude in her letter.
Her resignation letter?
Yeah, I mean it's...
For someone who created this situation yourself,
by whatever was going on.
You were in his room holding hands.
They were holding hands facing each other.
Like, I'm meeting you.
A little hug.
Can I tell you like.
What if they weren't banging?
They were just awesome, awesome friends.
And they hot tub together.
You've hot tub with media guys on the road.
Look like they were dancing almost.
Yeah, but it's also you saw a still shot of when someone is meeting.
What if you were doing a bro hug with somebody?
Yeah, dude.
But you got to figure somebody wanted to take those pictures.
Yeah.
One of their two, and probably Vrable, was looking into this relationship.
Some spouse, something.
So.
Why haven't we heard anything about that?
Why would you?
I don't know.
You heard everything like that.
You heard everything like that.
You get these pictures.
Well, I mean, I think that you got what you wanted, which is if Mike Vrable got caught,
he's probably having to deal with this at home, I would imagine, to the extent that.
I don't know, but I don't think you could just, if they're up there and someone's looking for him and they see him holding hands like that,
I'm probably just going to assume.
And frankly, dude, if I, if I'm a dude, if, if, now the tough thing about this is that in all these situations, multi-time Super Bowl winner and inside linebacker, Mike Brable is having sex with your wife.
It's very hard.
We should just imagine being a regular guy, so I'm not so fired up about it.
Yeah.
But if she's back there on a rooftop, just the two of them, interlocking fingers holding hands dancing.
in my mind, they might as well be fucking, even if they're not.
You've already got the same dynamic on your hands there,
so I'm not going to be more mad if he puts it in.
I'm serious.
Like, that's already a relationship that is separate from yours,
and you can feel how you want to feel about it,
but I really don't feel like it's different than having sex.
Because if she tells you it didn't happen,
you're going to think she's lying.
Yeah, and she's already there emotionally.
And so the better question to me is,
if like Dale Hansen saw Jerry having sex, literally having sex with another person and it wasn't his wife.
Like what, does he report that?
Why?
It has nothing to do with league ops.
What if he saw him having sex with someone who worked for another team?
And he didn't report that.
That's to me like possibly something that could have happened throughout history of sports.
reports reporting, right? And you're like, oh, sit on that. To me, that's a closer com.
So what's next for Diana Rusini? Do you think she'll get her own thing, though?
Like the Diana Rusini podcast? Is there? Man, I don't know because who was it that we were just
talking about that was doing, Holly, not Holly. Josina. Jocina Anderson. You know, she was one of
these reporters who knew a lot of the players. She kind of went off and did her own thing.
I think, and it's on YouTube, and it's not good.
And nobody seems to really know about it, you know?
That's the thing.
The only people who give a shit about being an insider are the networks.
There's really no independent marketplace for it.
I mean, you can just, like, you can break stories for sure.
You could do investigations.
But, like you would always say, if you find out Ron Washington was doing cocaine at the All-Star game.
And they were covering it up, yeah.
Then break that news.
That's a thing you can do and you can have a substack and a patron, whatever.
Right.
But if you find out the-
But if your job is just like, oh, the Rangers are moving someone to Rule 5.
I'm sorry, but you're going to have to hit the bricks.
Something that we're all going to know anyway, whether you're there or not.
That's a fake job.
Third mic on mom game?
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I think a couple of interesting sports notes I wanted to follow up on here.
Boy, that happened quick, and I don't know that it's over, but it appears that the Saudis
are reevaluating their relationship with American sports.
And really, it's not just American sports
because I think they're trying to sell off their soccer team.
They might have already done it.
One of the soccer teams they own.
So, Liv is, their CEO came out yesterday and was refuting.
You know, he's staying in there, Leslie Nielsen style,
telling you everything's going great.
But apparently fanatics is, they're beefing with them
because the Saudis didn't want to move Tom Brady's flag football tournament to L.A.
after the Middle East caught on fire.
Oh, they didn't want to.
The Saudis didn't?
Oh.
They're like, everything's fine.
It's cool here.
Oh, I was fanatics.
We're like, we're afraid.
A couple little bombs.
Yeah.
And so I don't know that it's just about that,
but it's being reported that that was one of the disagreements.
and they wanted to postpone it to a later date in Riyadh.
This wasn't going to work.
And so now they're considering pulling their funding.
Because the entire thing, the whole Brady,
the whole Brady flag football thing is Saudi-based.
That guy didn't care.
I mean, Fanatics is involved, but.
So what happens to all these people?
They sign these huge deals to?
Do they get their huge deal?
Well, I don't know.
we don't know yet.
But, I mean, it's going to be at the...
Like, who's...
You talk about for Liv?
Yeah.
So you signed Mickelson for Liv.
My guess is they'll have to pay you out.
30 million a year.
Yeah, but whose court does that go to?
Did they sign them in Saudi Arabia?
And they're like, actually, this is fine for us to just say this.
Yeah.
There's no way they see every dollar.
Right?
I don't know how that would work.
I would think that they have the money to do it.
track saying that if the business goes under, then we're going to pro-rate it at these terms or whatever.
Maybe they just ask you to give them your hand, your hand.
You would think there'd be some burbage in the Cuban.
Yeah, they might cut off their hand.
And let's see, elsewhere.
By the way, as I was watching these play-in games over the last couple days.
Why?
I wasn't actually watching them by any stretch of the imagination.
There actually were great games.
I was more watching the endings of them.
But Tuesday night I was
I was watching the Trailblazer Sons game a little bit.
And do you guys remember how the Blazers season started?
Go on.
Well, their coach went to jail when Chauncey Billups was arrested
in a large gambling scheme.
I did not remember that.
And then you and I were in Denver.
We were all of us in Denver going to, we were all of us in Denver going to the Broncos game.
their Chauncey Billups,
a wall of fame.
It was like the week that he had been arrested.
Like right before camp,
their head coach gets arrested,
taken to jail.
And here they are, folks.
Or were.
Who's the coach?
Of the Blazers now?
Yeah.
No idea.
Okay.
I'm out, dude.
Greg Oden.
I don't think it's Greg Oden.
Terry Stosses.
It is kind of funny that,
like, tomorrow night,
If you want, you could watch a late game play-in game between the Warriors and Sons.
It's almost like- Playing-in's a bad bit.
Firing up your PS2 and like 15 years later.
Are we not going to-
It's stuff?
Steph? He had a monster.
How can we still be doing play-ins?
They call it a success, I think.
When there could be four or five games differing, you know, the nine-seed or, excuse me, the eight-seed or the 11-seed, right?
Because I think people-
I think people like these games.
It was Kauai against Steph in a do-or-die game.
It was awesome.
Hornet's heat was super exciting.
I don't know.
These are success.
I don't know the economics.
So if you lose the play-in, are you in the lottery?
Yeah, there's spots reserved at the end of it.
That's what the Mavs did.
Yeah.
They were in the play-in and then won the lottery.
Yeah, Anthony Davis played in it.
That's right.
You got hurt in it.
It was a big.
Anthony Davis got hurt in a game.
I do not believe that.
I think a more shocking story was that he played in a game.
Yeah, he played in a game.
I barely remember that.
And then he heard his eye, nearly lost it.
How many do you think he played and finished?
As a Mav?
Yeah.
Like over 10?
It's 10 to 50.
I bet it's, you definitely remember.
I bet it's 20.
Okay.
But finished is going to be tough.
Really tough.
That's not going to show up on basketball reference.
You're going to have to figure that out.
And I would have bet there's a lot of them.
They should start keeping track of that.
Games finished.
Yeah.
Well, you see the weird thing, the bit they have this year?
The 65 game rule?
Yeah, there's an alteration, right?
But it's a 65 game rule to be eligible for awards at the end of the year.
But there's also part of that rule is you have to play a minimum of 20 minutes in 65 games.
And you can have, there's like a little tiny like, well, what if you had two other games that were under 15 minutes, it'd be okay.
Well, whatever.
I can't remember who it is.
82 games play this year and is not eligible for the, like, six man of the year or any postseason awards.
They do it for six men?
Any postseason awards.
I'm about Kate Cunningham.
Is that it?
I think.
But then there was a report this morning that he is eligible now.
Oh, okay.
They made him and Luca eligible.
Special exemption.
Right.
Oh, they made Luca eligible?
Okay.
Yeah.
And that's, right, because that's for, well, maybe it's not for six men, but I know it's for, like, all NBA.
and they have all NBA tied in to contractual benefits,
which is very weird because then now it's the media voting on whether or not your contract should be more or not.
And that's bad.
So you might want to be nice at the podium.
It's bad because it changes the relationship between the player and the athlete.
But I had never really considered until Skin, I think, posted something about this.
some guys are also kind of doing bits with their votes.
Not necessarily bits, but they're doing content.
Like, I'm going to vote.
You know, Kendrick Perkins or something has a vote.
And he's, the votes become public.
They're all out there.
So you can be like, I'm voting for James Harden.
Even this, you know what I mean?
Like the Red Sox writers will vote best Red Sox MVP every year.
Yeah, so that sort of thing.
There's the unintended bad consequence of saying, you know what,
we need all these things to be public.
I know.
Who voted, who didn't vote for so-and-so?
We need this public.
So now it's public and the guys have a vote.
I like, yeah, this will help my brand.
A couple little follow-ups here.
We reported, I think exclusively the other day,
that the Wings' recent 1-1 is having sex with their previous most recent 1-1.
And that was news to Dan.
and at the time I was like, man, that's really interesting.
We were able to break that news to Dan.
He didn't know.
He knew they had drafted a player, didn't know that it was Paige Becker's girlfriend and teammate from Yukon.
And then it occurred to me.
Dan didn't know this WNBA news.
Well, you knew they had drafted a player.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think this is illustrative of my point.
Jeff Perlman, I think, went on a show and commented on this.
Then it was in our group chat this morning.
nobody mentioned it in any of the articles.
Really?
And so Mike Paluci over at D Magazine
wrote something about this,
and Mike's a fantastic writer.
His stuff usually gets about a tenth of the reach that this did.
He's getting hammered by WHL here.
For what?
And he's about his woke guy,
because he's pointing it out.
Like if they were cousins, would that be in the story?
His point, which I think is a good one,
and it's the one we made on the show is the team absolutely had to consider this.
So the fact that ESPN...
Did they mention Brani was actually related to LeBron?
The fact that ESPN, the morning news, and a couple of other publications,
they just didn't mention it.
They're like, this is her teammate from Yukon.
Cool.
And the thing is, yeah, they had to consider this.
No possibility for problems in the future with this pick.
And most people would say that she was one of the three players that were in the mix for two.
and there's another article on D Magazine's website
about how she's a great fit off the ball, this and that.
But the one people got really mad about is him being like,
what the fall?
Are we not talking about this?
This is obviously a thing.
That's great.
He would be pretty nuts to, like, Paige would be upset, you would think.
That's what I'm saying.
Is that what he's on the other?
Yeah, you've got to either, she's on another team and now, like,
Paige obviously could just say,
look what happened last time we played together.
She's an awesome, that's what Mike says.
They're a great fit, but also like we're, you know.
But that could lead to?
Yeah.
Could lead to great chemistry.
They sync up and both have to miss a week at the same time.
They probably all do that.
It's a interesting question.
I wonder if NBA players, WNBA players take birth control to never have periods during the season.
Birth control doesn't mean you don't have a period, does it?
It does.
Some of them do.
Oh.
You may have like some of the symptoms.
but you're not going to have the whole thing.
Are the wings going to take off?
Is this going to be?
I mean?
Jordan and Pippin?
It'd be pretty sweet.
It'd be a pretty great documentary.
Well, they tank in the spring season, get the one-one in the fall.
They need a couple more one-ones to turn this thing to go.
They'll get relegated in the fall season and then-do-do-do-do-do-do-the-high-light edits to Melissa Etheridge.
That's their one-shining season.
Another beautiful layup is completed.
How many back-to-back championship stand before you consider going to a Wings game?
Oh, I'll go.
I'll go now.
Dude, I did see that...
I'll go right now.
And you know this.
Especially like they're fighting.
You've seen it with King of Clark.
I would love to go see them play in their arena the arena that they play in.
And the city.
Because I know where that is.
For sure.
Are they still in Arlington?
Speaking of the city, I just will give you some quick numbers.
Last year, since they drafted page, their regional viewership was up 400%.
Their ticket revenue is up 150%.
Their national games went up 40.
And they signed a for real deal for a jersey sponsor with CVS, which is several million dollars.
You talk about people who are underpaid.
We always talk about LeBron.
It's just the five most famous people in the WNBA.
They have to be.
Yeah.
And those five are
Okay, five names in the WMBA,
you can't name one of the two that's on the Dallas team.
Caitlin Clark.
Angel Reese.
Yeah.
Aha, Wilson.
And then I can just go through the Notre Dame women's basketball roster if you guys want.
Your girl.
Kelsey Plum, that's good.
Okay, there we go.
Sophie Cunningham.
Sophie Cunningham.
We got five.
Have you seen the CVS logo on their jersey?
No.
It starts up here and it goes all the way down.
It's like a long receipt.
Is it for real?
No, it's a great joke.
They should, though.
They should, yeah.
So one of their sponsors is not carpet, right?
But it certainly could be if flooring direct defw.com slash dZ wanted to get in the mix.
Maybe you're more of a slick laminate type of guy.
That's right.
You like to wax that bad boy up?
You probably already have curtains.
Maybe you're a disgusting shag guy.
You just want overgrown carpet.
Well, here's what I'm going to tell you.
You're not going to pay for it right away.
You're going to get zero interest financing for 36 months with nothing down.
You won't pay for it while Fudd and Beckers are still a couple.
That's exactly.
I take the under free financing until the wing's most previous draft picks break up.
They're local.
They're not the big out-of-town store.
They are located right here.
They are owned by our guy, Dan, the Flooring Direct Man.
They have a showroom in Addison, but you don't have to go there.
They will bring that showroom to you.
Not the whole, they'll have a little tiny version of it.
They have a little tiny, you know, pieces of carpet and laminate and...
Get out your arm.
Go ahead. Name all the flooring that you can, Blake.
I gave you carpet and laminate.
Keep going.
Hardwood.
Direct.
Okay.
Well, no.
Flooring direct, DFW.com.
972-449.
What?
It's a type of flooring.
Direct is a type of flooring?
It's finished the spot.
They're great.
They'll come to your house and here's profits.
Damn it.
They do also have the best prices.
Oh, are we ready for this?
Sure.
Clean anything else up later.
You're the cleaning up guy.
Ha.
Yeah.
You ever a Rangers game during the show?
Yes.
Yeah, two o'clock.
Lighter?
Yeah.
Which you know because Kuma Rocker got rocked last night, which means it's time for drip.
We're trying to avoid a pegging.
We just walked a bunch of people.
It's good.
Let's see. I got a couple of anchors if you want to start with.
I don't know.
I don't know. Agregious error. That was from George. That's why we didn't read it last week. Get off my ass.
Here's a sports one. I'm going to set your brain up with that because I think this one's good.
But a sports one fortuitous.
Bounce.
Yeah.
Timing also works, though.
We're off to an extremely hot start here.
I've got one. Fledged.
Full?
Never half.
Yeah, I don't even know what that means, but okay.
Okay.
All right, I'm going to try to get us moving here.
This is an insane email.
This comes to us from Brian.
So Blake is pitching for his nephew's coach pitch team.
And he informed us the other day that the other dad out there wanted to baseball
mug him on the other team because he could tell Blake is baseball Blake.
So the other dad started throwing knuckle balls.
Just effing around, right?
Brian says my ex-girlfriend, let's call her Amy, as a 12-year-old son.
Before we dated, we were good friends back when the 12-year-old was 7 or 8, coach pitch.
He was one of the better players on the team.
He was just tall.
He was 8 years old.
One of the dads on the team was the primary pitcher, and he was really into Amy.
This is his now girlfriend, but before they were dating.
Her son, let's call him Tyler, was really starting to love baseball,
and his dad was attempting to use that love to get access to her.
It was blatantly obvious.
He kept doing the lame-ass dude thing where he's trying to position himself in a place where they take things to a romantic or sexual level.
Picking him up for trips to the batting cages that other teammates weren't present for.
Sending her hitting tips via text and steering the conversation to, hey, how you doing?
It must suck that Tyler's dad's not around.
Hell yeah.
That's great.
I must preface this by saying that Amy is pretty sexually uninhibited and in the right situation, will fuck all the homies.
Nice.
If she was at the ticket, she'd try to fuck Corby and Mino,
but she'd also probably let Fahey and Cray get a little too.
A sweet gal.
She hooked up with a dad on the team.
It didn't go well.
The coach pitch dad tried to holler a couple weeks later,
and she shot him down.
Very few pains in life compared to a woman who Fs all the members
giving you no access.
College age me knew this pain very well.
Especially as he's helping out her kid.
So I am texting her about this,
and she says something the effect of,
not really thinking about it right now.
Tyler is starting to hate baseball,
and I don't know why.
So I ended up going to one of the games,
and I kid you not,
this dad is throwing her son knuckle balls.
He's changing eye level in speeds
in a way that is just enough
to fuck up a kid's timing,
but not enough to arise any suspicion.
I wasn't sure what to say
because I wasn't a team dad,
just a friend of the mom,
but I was shocked.
So he's throwing the kid knuckle balls
because mom won't give it up to him.
And yeah, so the kid,
It's amazing.
Honestly, kind of amused by the lack of access
turned to the dude into Prime Tim Wakefield.
Luckily, the season ended.
The next year was kid pitch 9 to 10-year-old,
and we didn't see Encel R.A. Dickie ever again.
So if any dads out there are seeing their son struggle at coach pitch,
buy the dad on the mound of hooker,
and he'll turn into 1995 Albert Bell.
Love the show.
More chappy, more T.C.
Les Jared.
always punt every eighth play because we have OCD.
What an amazing situation.
Great email.
Got follow-up here from Samuel says, Cafe Luca.
You guys want to come over to Cafe Luca?
Have a date with me, Jason Garrett.
He's named after Babe Lofenberg's son, Luke, who died from cancer.
Babe is an investor.
And then he says, anyways, go slurp some moist clam.
So I don't, is that true?
Yeah.
No, I know his son died.
That it's named after his son, yes.
Yeah, okay.
But it's not named.
He announced the restaurant was going to happen.
Babe was real out front in the marketing, and this was a big storyline from the inception.
Brent says I also never grew up near water, Jake.
But I'm able to properly pronounce dingy because I'm a highly culture man who appreciates fine art.
Let me send you.
This is what Brent sent us.
My dad gave me this boat.
We'd come out here late at night when there's no one else on the lake.
And then he'd be over there on the shore and he'd yell,
quit playing with your dingy.
Yeah, I never, that was a single entendre for me up until this last month.
Didn't get it.
Sorry.
That's Tommy Boy, of course.
Here's a good movie trope.
I got a lot of movie stuff, so let's go.
He was watching John Wick 2 with his 13-year-old,
which I honestly just paused at that moment.
It was like, I'm so excited for the next 10 years of my life.
Yeah.
Like, he's going to love it.
I'm just going to stare him in the eye as he's watching Under Siege for the first time.
And just like, you're watching John Wick 2 with your eighth-year-old, eighth-grade son.
Anyways, here it is.
Is there anywhere other than movies that they have the keys in the visor on the driver's side?
Maybe you guys do that, but I've only seen that in movies.
I've never done that, ever.
There they are.
Now, I've witnessed Jake just blatantly leaving his keys in the car.
Yeah.
But he won't put him anywhere where, like, a would-be thief could not find them easily.
He tends to, like, lay him right there.
Yeah.
And I'm like, what if the door locks?
What if?
Yeah, it's good.
Yeah.
And it is kind of, I mean, it's pretty much working out fine for him.
I've had, I don't think I get enough credit for this.
I have had the same wallet for 20 years.
I like the Ridge wallet they gave us, but I still like it.
Is it all torn up?
It's really not that bad.
And I will put it on the floor, you know, and I've noticed lately that really ennerves people.
Like, people will walk by.
At restaurants.
Excuse me, so you.
The wallet's on the floor.
I'm like, I put it there.
That's just normally where lost wallet stay.
They're just looking out for you.
I'm changing the game.
How do you put it on the floor?
I don't want to put it in my back pocket or I want to put it on the table.
It's very weird.
Dustin Keller, our business lawyer, says in movies, people don't say goodbye.
They just hang up the phone.
It doesn't happen in real life because I do it to my wife, and she effing hates it.
Yeah.
Just the hang up.
Let's see.
I got another one from Kyle who says,
I was watching a movie and saw this scene.
How can someone from a shipwreck float all night and wake up on the beach face down?
Still alive.
How?
If you're unconscious floating in the water, won't you inhale the water and just die?
How do they make it all night and wake up on the beach?
And then it's always sunny when they wake up.
Yeah, that's a good question.
One o'clock in the afternoon.
Also, my last movie thing is,
from Jason who says every modern movie and show
has people using cell phones, the iPhone, et cetera,
and dramas with spies, government stuff, whatever,
they're on them a lot, or they get early calls that wake them up,
but nobody ever runs out of battery power on their phones,
and you never see anyone ever charge their phones.
Very suss.
Unless it is part, like, it's the narrative in the story,
like they make that phone an important part of it.
They run out of battery all the time.
Otherwise, it just works perfectly.
Like guns, only when standing right in front of somebody does that gun jam.
Sure.
You know, it's like otherwise.
I got one from, you recall us talking about games that they would have us play at elementary school that were class.
Like naked jumping jacks?
Not that one.
Although I probably should read just a line of follow up too.
like class consciousness games and being aware of race and hey here's the poor kids and the rich kids
and this is sort of from the same vein as that but zach says um in 2000 or so my family moved
to a Denver suburb from Dallas I started at a new school mid semester as a third grader class had
just begun its project or everyone would put together a presentation on some historical figure
from Colorado the person I did my presentation on it took me a couple weeks to
to prepare was Alfred Fing Packer, who we recently debated whether or not he was the first
serial killer, because we learned that he took all of his bros on a hiking trip in 1870 and ate all
of them.
Yeah.
And this kid, I mean, it was assigned in class.
He's, I guess, he died in Jefferson County, Colorado, and he's famous in Colorado.
And so I just, I don't think.
they're doing that now.
I don't think they're doing that in third grade.
Reports on people or reports on...
Reports on a guy who...
The only reason he's famous is because...
Huh?
Yeah.
Okay.
The school said...
The guy said he thinks it was assigned.
Yeah.
Third grader?
And even if, I mean, if you brought that idea in, I feel like your teacher would say
no, but he says he thinks it was assigned, yeah.
I don't know.
And you know, the other thing...
So a lot of people got on me about Titanic, like, bro, 99% of it.
the stuff you say man but i'm not going to have you sit here
thank you calling it titan or notebook on a boat thank you
but uh i told this guy the only scene that i know that i've seen for sure
a couple times from that movie is when there are people being drowned below deck
like hermetically see i mean do you know have you seen any scenes of the movie dan
like the water's coming up right in the boat okay and so there are people below deck
And at some point we have to decide we're cutting this off because we need to stop the water.
It doesn't matter that we can't get these people out of here.
And it's the people you think it is.
The ne'er do wells, the poor.
And it's extremely metal, dude.
It's a traumatic ass scene.
And I just started thinking about what we were talking about yesterday,
which is that every nine and 10 year old girl I knew had seen that movie a thousand times.
And that's like two years older than my daughter.
and I don't know that she's ready to watch Titan.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen it.
Like, we're still watching Bluey.
Yeah.
I don't know that we're close to...
But there are some...
I mean, it's lovey-dovey, but there's some serious shit in that movie.
And I think half the revenue is from elementary girls.
Shout out Alfred Packer.
Dear L. Hefe of the Hamclam.
I email from a secure Yahoo account while I await users like Dan to work out the bugs in Hotmail before migrating over.
I blame Jake and Blake for normalizing peeing in cups or bags.
I received the following email from my daughter's elementary school in Austin ISD.
So TC, this is the pee and cup.
JPEG that is in the Dropbox is from Andrew,
who says, good afternoon, whatever, you know.
I'm writing to share about it.
an incident involving a substitute teacher in a fourth grade classroom today.
This afternoon, we were made aware that a substitute teacher attempted to privately relieve himself
by urinating in a cup behind a table in a classroom.
Oh, man.
Please be assured, as soon as this was brought to our attention, the substitute was immediately removed from the classroom.
And we've reported it, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, chemical castration.
That seems a bit far.
Oh, no.
That's the only way he can keep his license, though.
Yeah, yeah.
He just loves the kids.
I've got one from Eric, who brings up voicemail greetings back when we had home phones.
He said, in the community, it was common practice to let music play before the greeting and be a bed for your voicemail.
Some would also let it play after the greeting leading to the beep.
I think I vaguely remember that.
I think.
get somebody's voicemail, then MC Hammer starts.
They used to have like services where you could...
Yeah.
There'd be a comedy type.
Yeah.
I probably looked into starting one of those.
Alla Air Force One.
Boy, I am kind of remembering what you're talking about now, though, right?
God, I think I have memory hold most of my own phone, home phone era.
Because between like late night, like party lines, you know,
you could just call and all be on the line together like late at night.
You know, MC Hammer starts.
Can't answer this.
That's really good.
Don't let my dad find out about that.
Uncle Hotmail, last weekend I was at an estate stale.
While I was sifting through a dead man's trash looking for treasure,
these three pictures, T.C. will be entitled Long Bit.
I came across a Nolan Ryan baseball that was heavily taped shut with a message from dad telling Perry not to open this until May 3rd, 2034.
I spent a few hours contemplating whether or not to open it.
I was worried I'd put a curse on my Rangers for eight years.
I tried to decipher that date.
Could 5-3-2034, that's 53.
20 strikeouts?
And 34 is Nolan's number?
No, because Nolan had 57-14 career strikeouts.
Is it an anniversary?
Nothing.
So then I said F and I opened it.
Dad had clipped out a comic.
Made a time capsule with the comics date.
And you can see on the comic,
you can go to the next one,
or just go to Picture 3.
It is the full comic.
which is just a comic in the newspaper, and it says guys watching a,
it looks like a futuristic video screen.
Right.
Like you could see the Jetson's car is flying outside,
and it says, that's the news, May 3rd, 2034 in sports,
87-year-old Nolan Ryan pitched his 56th, no-hitter last night.
That's incredible, dude.
Only punt in self-defense.
So that just seems like poor little Perry, though, never, like his dad, what a bit.
Dad wanted Perry, and it looks like Perry died before.
Oh, no.
He could ever, there was an estate sale because Perry died.
Perry?
Perry didn't make it to 2034.
This is what we hope for Jim Nance, that he doesn't get to retire on year 100.
But think about it.
There's something so nice and cute about this situation.
right here. It's between these two
family members and maybe
it's something cool. Jim Nance had to run
to the media. Tell everyone
I'm retiring
10 years from now from the event that you'll
all already care about a lot anyways.
That's right. I got something
sent to me. I'm not
I think I need to get on Facebook.
I'm going to kind of like Benjamin
No one's saying that now. Social media.
Yeah.
That's 15 years ago
somebody says that. So
let's see. This came from
Chris
My leader Jake
My brother and I met you at Martin House
When the Little Peep tattoo is fresh
I only read that for you because I forgot that I had that tattoo
Until I read this email
The other day
It'll go, it'll be years
We'll go by and I'll forget I have it
How's it doing?
You know what?
I probably not well
Busted out
It's not worth it
We'll come back from break
And it'll be the first thing on the shot
He just said can we get a segment
Discussing this ad
and he sent me an ad from Facebook,
and it appears to be,
it's a company called Relatio.
So like relationship,
but we're taking off the in-ship.
And I think it's a regimen
to cure you of your premature ejaculation.
Okay.
So there may be some,
and there's a Facebook page
with like a hot guy,
and this is the song.
And feel anything during sex,
here's why the death grip caused a venous leak,
how to fix it, I was inside her
when I felt it happened.
Oh my gosh.
We just switch positions
within 30 seconds.
I went from pretty hard to barely there.
She felt it.
I felt it.
I tried to keep going nothing.
That's when I knew something was seriously broken.
Is this AI or is it really?
Yeah, I think it's pretty clearly AI.
And it's not just AI.
It's the shittiest thing I've ever heard.
It's four and a half minutes long.
And it just keeps going.
It's a tire with a hole in it.
Blood would flow.
Yeah.
Let me skip ahead a minute.
He tells you, death grip doesn't just numb your nerves.
It wrecks the muscle that locks blood in.
There's a muscle called the bubble coven.
All right, how about another minute?
It sounds terrible.
That's awesome.
It sounds like I would destroy.
destroy you.
It's in the episode with that song.
Why did you need to become Scott Stapp and sing about it?
That's great.
Throw that in the dropout.
I will.
I just think it's one of those just because everyone can, not everyone should.
Like that guy thinks, the guy who made that thinks that's good.
Of course he does.
It is good.
Totally against that guy either, yeah.
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Short words, hello leader.
I was listening to some top-notchmasters.com coverage.
So good.
And I caught this.
I have a frustration now.
Yeah, a lot of indecision.
And again, with the club face of those fairways,
sometimes the ball can jump.
I think he just deseld to protect for that.
Yep.
You hear that one in basketball quite a bit.
Try it the other way and see if someone punches
in your face.
He's a-sewing.
I excelled a little bit.
And I had one
that was bagging on Jake.
Oh, here we go.
You can't get out of here without that.
Dear Dan, I don't have a birthday
or any of that gay stuff to write in about,
but I couldn't hold my tongue here.
This is from Caleb.
He says, this is worse than the Lincoln Douglas screw up.
We can't let Jake off the hook.
Jake has had plenty of terrible baseball takes.
So maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but he got ball sacked by eight errors on one play?
This is true.
Why did you pick the name Caleb to write this fake email?
That's a gay name.
I did not write a fake email.
How would eight errors even be possible?
The runner would have to do multiple laps around the bases just to allow the opportunity to make that many errors.
Then I don't know what counts is in error.
my chest. Now let's work on your crossover dribble.
Yeah, and I looked it up, and I guess three and 12 seconds was the most,
but I don't understand what counts as an error then.
Because I thought if the catcher were to throw, like,
catcher drops the ball, right?
Yeah, get a.
Oh, yeah.
If the pass ball counts.
Okay, let's go.
You got one.
Okay, so if the catcher goes to the backstop, tries to pick up the ball and drops it,
like, oh, fuck, I dropped the ball.
Is that a second one?
It could be if that.
If that allowed the runner to advance another base, then that could be.
Okay, you have two.
Hold on, but that's the misunderstanding.
I didn't know that.
I've no one's ever told me that in my life.
What do you mean?
You just thought like any hesitation is an error?
A fuck up.
I'm dead-ass telling you that.
I don't know.
What is that?
I've never thought about that in my life.
Did you make a mistake on the play?
A mistake that allows for something to happen.
Now, if the pass ball might just allow for, that's, that's a ball.
Pick it up and drop it over and over, but the runner was still standing on first.
Right. And that's the main difference is to me, like, I'm not thinking of I never have in terms of scoring the game.
And that's like when you hear Eric be like, oh, he stayed.
Like if a ground ball is shortstop.
Oh, he stayed on first, so that's not an error.
I pick it up, I drop it. I pick it up, I drop it. I pick it up, I drop it.
But luckily, right, I don't know what an error is.
Pre-training for a four-minute mile T.C. is running to first. Now I can throw them out.
Right. Yeah. And that is not an error.
And thus the confusion.
I'm straight up telling you that.
And I will also tell you, how would I arrive there?
That's what I want to know.
Well, you, I'm saying you didn't think it out at all.
You didn't think, oh, he must have picked it up.
Eight times?
I saw the video.
He was dropping the ball.
Like when the, how did you, I'm explaining to you how.
Why am I the only one arguing here, Blake?
Well, I'm explaining to you.
Oh, I'm loving what I'm seeing.
Your baseball player.
No, I'm explaining.
I'm seeing a great fight right in front of me.
I'm explaining to you, like, how I didn't understand it.
And I thought you guys were going to be like, how is it possible?
You didn't know this about baseball.
Like, that's why I didn't, what you just described.
Well, I wonder that for sure.
But even if I, even if I thought that on that particular play, I can't get the
and he threw it to the outfield.
So then there's another error, right?
Okay, now what?
The same thing happens at the plate.
Like, if you drop the ball at the plate again and it goes past, okay, well, now he's got to go
get that ball.
That's what I'm saying.
I thought every time that something happened.
Why don't you just admit you saw the,
the headline and you didn't think twice about. I watched the video. Well, yeah, I did too.
That's what I'm saying is that I watched the start of the video four or five errors in like two
seconds. But you guys are telling me that's not possible. I mean, I think that the solution all
this is you need to start scoring the games. I would really help you understand the game more,
the great game. No, I, uh, I beautiful game, they call it. I honestly, I didn't know that.
I thought you guys would take your win here. Football season is about to get real rough for you guys
though. If we're going to start every time I need to explain something we learned in first grade.
We've got to break all this down for everybody.
We'll try that this time.
Damn.
If we want to do that.
All right, we good?
Oh, I got one last one from Andrew who says, this is for you guys to help him.
I need your professional guidance.
My wife informed me this coming Friday night.
She's having dinner with the girls.
I potentially have anywhere from two to five hours of Friday evening for myself.
What do I do at this time?
hit up a brewery, go to the local minor league baseball game, rub one out,
which even then I'm still left with nearly the full two to five hours.
She's coming home, though, later?
I wouldn't rub one out.
You do have the chance of possible tipsy wife.
Unless you just want to last longer.
But you have to be very careful with that at this point.
Yeah.
And also, there may not be, maybe what is the Korean?
It depends the age.
the gym one time today.
I think eating by yourself is pretty cool.
Going to a baseball game by yourself seems pretty cool.
Stuff that you would be weird if you did when she was available.
That's like the main thing.
So for a lot of people that's like a show, for me it's food for sure.
I think baseball game alone is cool.
I might try it one Wednesday.
Because a lot of Wednesdays are getaway days.
So.
Yeah.
Let's say hi.
Come on in.
Before you, we'll say hi to him before we go to break.
We're about to go to break.
Do you want to say hello on the mic or?
This will be a nice tease.
How about that mic right there?
Ladies and gentlemen, look at that.
We're going to break though, so.
Yeah, I'm just trying to get in the zone.
There you go.
That's the great Sean Rab.
For Sean Rab for.
Show them those headphones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You like headphones?
Takes me back to my radio days.
Yeah, look at him.
There we go.
You found us.
We knew he'd find it.
I didn't even tell him where we were.
You track us down.
I'm like, you track us down.
That's what I do once a week or so, they tell me.
He did.
All right.
The great Sean Rab is coming up in just a minute.
Did Tommy ever tell you about my painting?
No.
Look at this.
That's beautiful.
I like this one.
One door goes.
One way and the other one goes the other one.
The other one is going west.
So what?
And this guy's saying, what do you want from me?
Guys got a nice head of white hair.
Look how beautiful with the dog.
It looks the same.
It looks like somebody we know.
Without the beard.
No, it's him.
Oh, fuck.
It's him.
Holy.
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let's welcome in our guest. It's the great Sean Rob from Fox 4.
I have a couple quick things I want to do real quick.
I'm sorry for yelling at you about the airs.
That was a weak moment of weakness.
I looked it up and first of all, I did not know that you had to advance a base, right?
But people say that you theoretically could have up to seven.
So that's the max.
But I don't even understand how that would happen.
because wouldn't somebody else have to be,
isn't the max four?
Like if somebody dropped a third strike
and that runner scored.
Are you stacking the errors
because this runner advanced
and this runner advanced and this runner advanced?
And I'm not being sarcastic
because I'm actually learning now
how this works.
So is it four because that,
or would it be because if the bases were loaded
then everybody's,
an error could advance each one of those players four times
than three times and two times and more?
No, one error wouldn't count as four.
Because it would move everyone.
Because it would move everyone.
Okay. I didn't know that.
I'm serious. I didn't know that.
The second thing is the Azi-Fud press conferences today.
There you go.
It announced last year on TikTok that you all were a couple.
And I'm wondering if that is still the case.
And if so, if y'all have talked to any other couples in the league
about how they negotiate that dynamic as pro teammates.
I understand why you have to ask that question.
But we're going to respectfully decline from commenting on our players personally.
That's the PR answer.
That's ridiculous.
That's a great question.
That's not a personal life question.
It is a, how does that affect this, the dynamic of a team?
We just said it.
He said it.
He didn't say, hey, what do they do when they go home?
Can you describe it in detail?
Yeah, I mean, I guess the player, if they want to, can address it.
But we're asking you as the team.
I mean, it's your team.
your thinking, when I draft
Bronny, do you think,
they asked them too.
How will that affect the player, the other players
at the end of the bench who think they're here
by merit?
Yeah. It's going to be interesting.
We got a little story here.
Whenever we started the WNBA and everyone
who said it's not a good idea
to let women in sports, they got shouted
down, everything
they were worried about we've seen come true.
It's a viable, marketable,
product. Sean,
sports fan? I am. Okay. Cowboys. Go Cowboys.
Where'd you grow up, Sean Rob? San Antonio.
Okay. Yeah. So grew up watching
the Oilers and the Cowboys. Is that where you did radio? You said back in the radio
days. First radio job out of college
at KKYX, Great Country 68, San Antonio, Texas.
What did you do? So I did news.
I did news. Learned from some Pat Fitzgerald, Ken Carter, Joe Simpson.
those were the old heads who taught me how to write and how to do this business.
Was that like talk radio?
No, it's country station.
Oh, you already said that, yeah.
Updates.
Top of the hour, bottom of the hour, all day, weekends, you know, everything.
So it was a full flitch all around the clock newsroom.
And then I came here and worked with Tom Joyner at 104 for a year.
And then I went to Houston and was at Magic 102 in Houston.
So you were just a radio guy?
I was a radio guy.
I started TV on the side.
I started TV in Houston.
Okay.
Started TV in Houston.
Met the news director at the Fox station in Houston at a concert, a party actually from Michael Jackson.
And he said, hey, who writes for you?
I love your writing.
So, well, I'm in radio.
Are you kidding?
I write for myself.
And he said, I need you to come work for me.
And so I started part-time at Fox 26, working mornings at Magic.
And then in 98, well, in 19.
Well, in 90, I left Houston, came here, doing radio and TV, both until 98.
So wait, they hire you as a writer.
No, he hired me because of, well, because of my writing.
Oh, okay.
Because of my writing.
But he said we'll put you on camera.
Yeah, so I was, I started out on weekends, weekend nights, you know how it goes.
But moved up to.
Big Storm, let's send you out, or do they send the weather guy?
Like, they send you to the bad stuff.
Yeah, of course.
We still do that.
Yeah.
Right.
Big storms.
In the Houston area, of course, you've got the oil refineries, big explosions.
And if you think crime is outlandish here, we had some really strange murders and crimes back in Houston in the 80s.
But that's when crack was king, really.
And a lot of that was taking over communities.
And they're sending you out to like the scene of?
Yeah, you can't tell us from the newsroom, right?
I'm not going to believe it unless.
I'm not going to believe in.
under siege, which that was the name of it.
It's still on the air at Box 26, I believe.
And every night we chronicled the various law enforcement agencies in Harris County
and their fight against crime.
That's where I got my first Emmy, actually.
So when you were like little Sean Rab, what are you wanting to do?
Like you're in high school and stuff?
Are you knowing you want to be in media?
I did.
I did.
And thanks to my grandmother, who would make me watch the news with her when I was a little guy.
Every evening I watch the news and she'd say, you can be on TV, you can do that.
And so you thought I could be the guy in the news, not like the guy committing a crime?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay, because that would also be a way to get on TV.
Sure.
Easier.
Oh, my.
Yeah, I guess so.
Easier, but ellipsis.
So how did you, okay, so now you get up here around 98, you said?
No, 90.
came here in 90.
It stopped radio in 98.
I stopped the radio.
I came here in 90 KKDA a.m. with Willis Johnson doing mornings there.
I went to the various TV stations here and said, look, here's my tape.
I want to get back in TV news.
I started here filling in on a talk show called Insights when the host went out on maternity leave.
At Fox?
It was CBS.
We were CBS back then.
Okay.
This is before, yeah.
We were CBS until Murdoch got the NFL contract and began buying stations.
NFL markets.
Okay.
So some lady gets pregnant and you're like, I'm going to take advantage of this.
They needed a host.
Right.
So I filled in.
And then I was pressing the news director, Mike Seekris, to give me an opportunity
in the newsroom.
You know, TV is a great place.
If they're looking for you, if they're not looking for you, you got to make them pay attention.
Okay.
And so there was a big story here and he was like, okay, if you can find the people involved
in that story, I'm going to give you a shot in the newsroom.
And we did break that story.
Oh, okay.
Download the...
Sorry.
A little challenge then.
Yeah, so now here I am.
That's interesting.
I didn't know that.
It worked like that.
So were you ever like, I want to be an anchor?
Or did you always know it?
Because it feels like that's the...
Progression.
What do you call it the cushier job or whatever?
You don't have to go out to the...
Not as often.
The hood.
You don't have to have bullets flying by you.
Correct.
Yeah.
And I did some anchoring.
did weekends here for a few years.
That's got to be a political game too.
Well, you know, you're either a great anchor or you're a great reporter.
So which one is it?
I mean, management makes that decision.
And if you have a lot of contacts, if you're able to break stories, you're going to be on the street.
And that seems like your bit, right?
It's been good.
It's been good.
Because you do know, we were talking before the show actually about like your thing last night.
that we're just wondering,
do all police officers know who you are?
Like all those, you know,
and who was the guy last night?
Officer Buddy Calzada, Fort Worth Police.
Oh, see, I didn't even see last nights,
and I know him from Trackdown, yeah.
Yeah, but you're, and that's how you introduce them.
You're like, oh, obviously you all know Buddy.
Right.
Like the viewer doesn't need another introduction,
but if you're just tuning in for the first time,
I'll let you know.
But it just seemed like you guys are like good friends.
And I bet you if Sean Rabb gets pulled over anywhere in DFW, we're going to let you go.
You're going.
Last time Sean Rab got pulled over, he had to pay a big ticket.
Oh, no.
What are we doing?
It must have been a millennial or zoomer cop who didn't know what he was dealing with.
Did you ask for his badge number?
No.
You work for, I pay your salary.
Do you like that bit?
Yeah, none of that do you know who I am.
That's for somebody else.
So even during the break, too, though, you're,
on the phone, you're setting stuff up, you're, like, you know who Adam Schaefter is?
I do.
Like the newsbreaker for the, like, that's his thing is like he's always got to be by his phone.
It's, he can't turn it off at night.
No.
Like overnight.
Yeah.
Stuff happens.
And people reach out.
And so a good reporter, you want to stay plugged in, your victory is in your sources.
That's how you break the stories.
You can't wait on the press release too late if you ever get the press.
You've got to have people telling you.
You've got to have people in different walks of life talking to you.
Now, I think one of the interesting things about your game is that obviously you become aware
it sometimes people want to use you or they want something out of you and maybe someone else
wants to do the same and they're kind of trying to play you.
It's really a you're kind of a psychologist, but in the field.
Yeah, and you have to filter it, right?
You have to filter it.
One of the things I like to tell people is 98% of the time, what's,
presented to us is never actually as advertised.
You've got to filter it because people will always leave out anything that might impact
them negatively or not tell you the whole story.
That's part of the job, though.
I'm interested in, obviously, your crime reporting, right?
You're right in the mix of things.
And you're looking for people, bad people.
Like, have you ever run into any sort of, what level of danger has Sean Rab?
Have you ever had somebody leave a note at your house or something that said,
hey, be careful with this or that?
Not at the house, but I've had mail come here.
Back in the day before, before email, had letters come, sure.
Because everybody is not going to be happy with what you're doing.
And so there are sometimes some stories where you hear from other people.
Did you have to, like, go to the cops and say, look, I get, like, threat?
Yeah, we talked with them about it and then took the necessary precautions.
Yeah, that's probably a time where being Sean Robb comes in pretty handy.
Yeah.
Who are you going to call?
They're going to believe.
Right.
He's going to call.
Yeah, he's going to actually take action.
Yeah.
I'm interested as well, obviously, you're a black man.
The policing issues, particularly of, you know, five, six years ago, I was not locked into what you were doing at the time.
was that tricky at all to navigate when you're you're covering police a lot you you have to
trust you you have to trust them and that was a very hot time you know regarding policing and race
in general uh did any sort of did you i guess i'm just wondering how you navigated all that were
there conversations that you had with anybody that sticks out or things you learned from that
or that you taught other people that you could teach us well let's go back even further uh in the 90s
in Dallas County there have been over 40 people exonerated
who were placed in prison
long terms in the late 80s
early 90s many of those trials in the 90s
I covered and I'm sitting here going
how could all of these men who look like me
be guilty of such heinous acts
and then you learn they weren't guilty
and the fallacies the weakness
the bad parts of the justice system
Fast forward to late 90s after the Rodney King incident, mid-90s to the 2010s,
culminating probably with the George Floyd incident, that time frame.
There was a lot of people kill, and it created a lot of acrimony in our society.
And I didn't grow up with that.
I grew up in San Antonio, grew up with police officers around us in our neighborhood.
About the military probably.
Yeah.
We've got five military installations in San Antonio.
Very diverse.
Right? In fact, this moment we're in right now with Iran, when I was in high school, the Imperial Iranian Navy actually trained in San Antonio, the military. That's the kind of relationships we had with Iran before Ayatollah in 1979. So a lot of things, the dynamics of growing up there, different from my experiences in Houston and Dallas and what we see happen across the country. And it was very troubling. And I'm glad we have gotten past that window. We talked.
save our sons.
SOS is what we called it.
And the idea behind that teaching
to many families and communities,
churches, comply.
Just comply and save yourself.
And then later go back and deal with.
Yeah, and that's all. I mean, I can't, I don't feel
comfortable, me having an opinion
on how that should be carried out, but that is
very tricky. You know, that decision
on which way to go with that. Do you have children
yourself? I do. So the talk
Of course.
That's the same sort of idea.
Of course.
What do they think of what you do?
We always wonder if you get a famous, well-accomplished dad,
do they know you're a big deal?
It's a dad.
Can I get them to watch?
You ever walk around the house playing the trackdown theme when you're like,
no dad's coming?
Yeah, two kids got in, who did this?
They won't tell us.
They won't, uh.
Yeah.
Oh, there it is.
There he comes.
How many kids?
I have one.
Okay.
Well, then, yeah, that's bad.
It's obvious who did this.
Who did this?
I can't blame my wife.
Retract him down again.
She'll get mad.
What's like your worst moment on air?
Do you have a worst moment?
I've had some worst moments when I have literally, you know, live TV is live TV.
Uh-huh.
And sometimes there have been times when in the middle of saying something, you draw a blank.
just go blank.
And you're live and you're out on some location and you're trying to pull it out of the clouds.
Those moments happen because we're human.
And I think the beauty of that is embracing that moment and saying,
here's what I meant to say, or excuse me, and keep going.
I think people expect us to be human and not robots, although the robots are coming.
That's what we've heard.
Go ahead.
Piggybacking off of that, you know, is there a story that has stuck with you?
Because, I don't know, seeing you for the first time in here, I go back to the,
downtown shooter after the protest. And I remember I was up with you all night long. And your
coverage was fantastic. You had insights no one else did from the bomb bot to whatever else. But
when I see you, I go back to that time. Is there a story that kind of stays with you?
That one. Yeah. It's got to. Yeah. And this is we were talking early about sources.
You got to have people who trust you. That night is really what that was about. I mean, I was eating
dinner with my family when I started getting text messages from police office.
We got officers down.
We're catching this, blah, blah, blah.
And I hadn't gotten contacted by my desk yet.
And this was all happening.
I was off that night.
I was home.
And as the text started coming in, I made that I told my wife, see you later.
And all night, people were sending me information and we knew what was happening as it was
real time.
Because, again, over the years, they've developed that relationship.
relationship of trust. That's all those years. That's like the team like that's why we ran up that
hill in the spring, right? That's why we lift all them weights. That's all that's lifting weights for
years. It pays off right. Yeah. So that story obviously. And even as as the anniversary
rose around every year you start thinking about it before it gets here. Yeah. Have you ever
thought about writing a book at some point? You've lived a life? I have.
Right.
But I haven't thought about writing a book, really.
I have some associates, Jim Schutz, you guys know Jim, who worked at the Times Herald
and Morning News as well, Observer.
He's written a book about Dallas and the politics of race in the city.
Jeff Crilly, who worked here, and now he's got Crilly PR.
He's written a book about the business and other people have, but I haven't.
It is the life of life and times where we are.
You know, every day is different.
And writing a book about yesterday in terms of a reporter
has no impact on tomorrow because all things are changing.
That's deep, bro.
It's very deep.
Too deep.
Where do you fall on the, like when they teach in ethics class?
Like if you were covering, I was going to say a foreign conflict,
but you cover conflict domestically, frankly, it's,
if an opportunity
presented itself
where you could, let's say,
save a person involved in the story
or alter some sort of event
that was going on,
but you're there to cover it.
You know, they always,
they would tell me this,
I took a lot of,
I'm not a journalist,
I took a lot of the,
I stated a holiday and express, right?
And they would say, you know,
if you're covering something like this
and you see, you can't get involved.
And I was never able to square that.
Well, now, it depends.
on, I mean, are we there to document what happens as a reporter and be unbiased?
Or are we watching somebody get beat to death?
And what do you do?
That's a call that you have to make at that moment.
Do you say, hey, or do you just shoot video?
Those are hard choices if you do the right thing.
You have to do the right thing.
Kevin Bell is a photographer here.
He and I were coming down Interstate 30 from Fort Worth to Dallas accident in front of us.
We watch a woman get ejected from her.
Chevy Blazer.
Whoa.
So we hop out.
We try to help her, but we realize we can't.
So I just hold her hand and we pray with her right there on the Interstate 30.
Should I have not done that?
Yeah.
When we were having people overdose from heroin in Plano, the high school kids.
Do you all remember that?
Sure.
And I'd cover those stories.
I'd go to those homes.
I'd interview the families.
And I'd say, do you mind if I pray with?
you interview is done I know you're hurting mind if I pray with you what if they
said yes I do mind never happen get out of this house never happened okay well
maybe because you know never happened it's Sean rap yeah it is Sean Redd no it's
because the moment they're in you know it just it never happened and and if it did
he would have been fine with it right okay respectfully right but yeah that's but you
know shifting roles from moment to moment but yeah I think
you just have to trust your instincts of what's the right thing to do as a person, I suppose.
Sure.
And on stories that matter on horrific stories, I want to feel it because I want to tell it
so my viewer can feel it too.
That's interesting too, because you'll hear people talk about being desensitized or in some
ways just it's the guy who wants to be removed.
Right.
To do the job.
But I want to feel it.
I want to feel it.
And that makes my storytelling better.
reporting better because I want you to feel that same pain or grief.
Did anyone teach you that?
Or is that something you just over time developed like?
That's just me.
I mean, from early on in my reporting, I would feel some kind of way covering these events.
You know, and I would think about it after I take it home.
And for me, I think feeling it and then being able to express that or try to share that emotion
with my viewers and my reporting, that's kind of cathartic for me.
in that moment, right?
But if you don't feel it,
if you're covering a school shooting
and you don't feel that,
you're covering a mass shooting at a church
and you don't feel that,
you're covering three people in a convenience store,
shot down, murder,
you don't feel that,
then I think you need to feel it.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I mean, you would almost hope
if you were a cop, you didn't feel it.
You know, you don't want,
you don't want emotions running high as far as that you want them to be much more objective
you do but can i tell you many homicide detectives uh live and breathe it it stays with them so
they can get to what's called tab seven where they close the case it stays with them until they
can make an arrest get that case to the district attorney that's like dutch yeah because that's
strangling the cat yeah because it's the the classic you know i always mentioned this with des but i mean how
much are your emotions fueling your drive to do your job? So if you stop caring about it,
that maybe the pro is you're not burdened by it, but you're also not as driven to take care
of it. You ever watch The Shield? I watch a lot of the Shield, Blue Bloods. I was going to ask
like the wire. The wire. Any of those hit the most accurate as far as realistic. The Wire I was
wondering about because city politics and whatnot. There's a whole season on the newspaper.
Yeah, the wire is pretty accurate, I think.
Some of them, and again, it's a TV show.
Yeah.
And so they have some leeway, they have some license
and how they tell the story.
Some of it, you're looking at that going,
that would never happen.
Right.
You know, that could never happen for real.
Nobody could get away with doing that, you know.
Yeah.
Well, now we do that same thing,
when it's a sports movie or a...
Oh, yeah.
He would do it all the time with Frazier.
He loves Frazier.
I'm still bummed they took it off the air.
You mentioned the convenience store three shot,
and that could have been any number of cases,
but I do go back to the kid they never found.
Now the reward is up to $70,000.
We mentioned him all the time.
75 and I'm starting to look.
And the debt here, right?
70 is just not enough.
We get interest.
Okay, because it was a situation where the dad turned himself in
and sort of took a rap a little bit.
Well, but he didn't know what his son was.
He says he didn't know what his son was going to do.
Didn't know his son had a weapon.
They didn't believe that.
The father was convicted three times capital murder, sentenced to prison, life without parole.
And how old was the kid?
Dad of the year.
He was 14.
14.
And so now he's 18.
And just...
We think.
Well, he would be.
Yeah, he would be 18.
He fled down south?
Well, no, no.
He could be in Mesquite.
He could be in Garland.
He could be out of the country.
Could be out of the country.
Okay.
Crazy one.
It just made me think of when he brought that back.
I remember that that was a track down subject.
They're looking for these guys.
And that was the one that one person that I think we've done news stories on that just straight up got away.
Right.
So you've been here since 90?
Fox 4?
Yes.
Or whatever it was?
Yes.
Where do you rank on the tenured employees?
Clary Stensley.
When does she get here?
Uh, sometime before me.
Okay.
Yeah.
But there's no other?
I don't believe so.
Richard Ray retired.
Tim Ryan retired.
I think I'm the senior most reporter.
And what's your future?
Are you on the cusp?
You're feeling good?
You're still out there kicking ass.
I'm looking for a new building, so we'll see.
Yeah.
So I think you've done a great job of being a very unique, you're just very unique in your
track down and the way that you deliver your stories.
But when you were first getting into it, did you have,
an idol or somebody that you were trying to emulate.
So, as I mentioned, my grandmother made me watch the news.
So I watched CBS Evening News, Walter Conkite, Eric Severide, Roger Mud, all those folk who
were reporting.
That's who I watched every day.
And then I'd get in front of the mirror, you know, with the butter knife and emulate.
And I had one person many years ago tell me, don't try to be like them, just be yourself.
Learn from them, but just be yourself.
and that was my news director in Houston, Will Wright.
And he'd come from Philadelphia to Houston.
And that was something that stuck with me.
So I just try to, I'm talking to people when I'm telling my stories.
Yeah, because I think the stand-up reporter, they're all trying to do the same thing.
It's, you know, they're very buttoned up, you're very squared, you want to deliver to details, almost not have any emotion.
But that's just, that's not the vibe, I think the viewer gets from you.
Like you said, you're very invested.
I am.
That's not, that's rare, I feel like now.
Well, I appreciate you saying that, but I think that, for me anyway, I want to feel it.
If it's grave, if it's heavy, I want to feel it.
I want people to understand that.
And whether it's a local story or whether we're talking about, you know, the war in Iran,
or I want people to understand what's going on and feel something about it.
And that's not being biased, right?
That's the one thing I refuse to do is be biased in my reporting.
I want to tell it.
all tell both sides. It's not my place to make a decision for you, but it's my place to give you
the facts and even give you the emotion when I can't. So being not biased or attempting to be
that, it feels like you're a news purist, right? Like old school news purist. Whereas now it does
seem like news for profit is a huge thing. It's whether whoever it is.
So how do you just feel about the news and just the world and the way the news is viewed
and just screaming at you that it's fake news if indeed somebody doesn't like what you're actually saying
because there's a lot of mistrust about people like you.
Of course.
And so I have people who are both Republicans and Democrats who call me, which means they think I'm a fair reporter.
I have people on both sides who either cheat.
or criticize.
If that's happening, good, because I'm walking down the middle of the road.
And that's where I want to be.
That's where I want to be.
I think that there's a lot that's changed in journalism and in news,
and a lot of it has to do with citizen journalists and social media
because everybody puts the phone up and everybody writes a story
and sometimes the facts are all wrong.
And so it's changed.
The immediacy of it is right here right now,
which causes news outlets to be the same way immediately as soon as possible.
Right here, right now, that's where the viewers are.
Which is not always the best way to tell the accurate story.
You have to get the facts right.
You absolutely have to.
But yeah, the citizen journalist thing, the problem is that that's what's remembered.
Their version of it tends to get remembered, and you could be like, yeah, well, actually, that's, you know, he had quite a few things wrong.
But the story is now out there in citizen-journalist form.
Right.
And not even citizen-journalists.
I'll take it down a step further.
Just people putting up their phones and here's what happened.
Yeah.
And it's not all the facts.
But you're right.
It's out there.
All right.
Well, last thing from me.
Your sign-off.
There's a pause.
Has that developed?
Have you always done that?
I've done it since the Darley-Rutier trial in Carverville, Texas.
Okay.
So a long, long time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's that?
What's what?
That particular trial you mentioned.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Mid to late 90s, Darley Routier,
calls 911, middle of the night,
says someone is broken in,
said they stabbed her two sons.
Her husband is upstairs asleep.
They were downstairs on the sofa sleeping.
Rall let police arrive,
do an investigation,
ultimately charge her with capital murder
for the killing of her two sons.
The trial takes place in Curville, change of venue, and she is found guilty.
And I spent six weeks in Curval covering that trial.
And she has found guilty.
She has no date.
She's on death row.
But it was, it's a trial.
It's a case that is often on forensic files, which is another show that I watch a lot.
You can see it's kind of boring life over here.
I love it.
watching film.
Yeah.
But there's so many, you know, many people think she didn't do it.
Other people think she did do it.
And there's a big movement to free Darley.
Darley didn't do it.
So it was that case.
What do you think?
That she was convicted by a jury in Dallas County.
That's what I think.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is there any relation to, like you said, the pause started then?
Was there some reason?
It was just cold as ice, literally.
sleeting, standing outside
to the court house there in Currville,
waiting to do a live shot, and it was just
bitterly cold, and it just
kind of fumbled out, but
it stuck out. And then you're like, that's
a little hang time. Yeah, let's
just give them a... So, 2.5 seconds,
though, no, no three second violation.
Love it. That's like the key and peel
three pumps. It's like, no, no, no, no.
We stop. We should do
that story one day, Darley-Rutier's story.
Man, what it...
I mean, yeah, I guess.
That's pretty funny.
Do you have a whole series of moms who killed their kids that you'd like to fill the summer with?
No.
Didn't she cut their arms off?
I don't remember that.
There's something.
Just a local conspiracy and a huge story here.
Okay.
I'm in.
I'm in if you want to make it a horror summer.
You're our resident conspiracy guy.
Let's not act like this is like Iran-Contra.
This is a murder trial.
Do you think we went to the moon?
Let's just here.
While we're doing this.
you know. Well, since you brought that up, I absolutely think we went to the moon.
Okay. Well, what I think is that the government said we did.
Sure? No. I was just trying to do your Dallas jury convicted her.
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All right, we're about a month away from graduations, and Plano ISD has announced a plan
to use artificial intelligence to announce student names at all high school graduation
ceremonies next month.
Why?
So the way they...
What do you think of AI?
What they say is that they're trying to do this so that the name will be read correct.
and that the individual will be respected.
And if we think about where we are in Plano,
it may be the case that there are some administrators,
be they black, white, Latino,
they might not be able to nail certain...
These are like Indian names?
Names.
Is that we're looking at?
Yes.
Because it actually, in the email, the parents says,
names matter, and we want your big moment
to feel personal and accurate.
So rather than learning your weirdo language,
that's like we're just going to have a computer deal.
Can we do it with Celebrity Voices, AI, though?
Oh, yeah, that'd be really funny.
It's like a walk-up music.
You get to pick.
I want Sean Rab reading my name.
You could also just do a little effort, go to the kid, ask him how to say his name.
That's an option, too.
That's ridiculous.
I like that option.
Because it's still going to be mispronounced.
Probably.
It would depend on.
I mean, some of these AI things can get it right, but the parents are not happy about it.
How old is your kid?
An adult now.
Oh, okay.
They're out of high school.
You big, you haven't been, you were anti-graduation guy, right?
Well, no, I wanted them to study and graduate.
No, but I just mean going to the ceremony?
Yeah.
Like, yeah, I guess you do it for your kids, but there's no way you'd go for like a...
See, I think the thing I'm illustrating here is you don't have any other family here.
Because I'll get asked to go to a graduation for someone who's not my child.
Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
And that's where it really becomes, I don't know, I'm going to be skipping that.
It was bad enough.
I had to stay from M through Z.
Because I had friends, who was it?
He's been in studio with us.
But their name Z?
No, their name was like, the last name was like a C.
And then they left.
And I was there another three hours.
And it was the COVID era.
So it was outdoor stadium.
It was a million degrees.
I had a mask.
They gave us the forehead temperature before we went in.
Sure.
That was like we were all doing our best.
Full proof, yeah.
Speaking of that, a charter school down in San Angelo is being hit with a class action lawsuit.
Dozen families have filed lawsuit against this school in San Angelo.
Is that near where you went to school?
No, it's near Waco.
Because I think he went to his college.
Texas State.
Southwest Texas.
Jackson Hall.
Yeah, he had to
Action Jackson.
He had to correct me very quickly
because the name changed
right when I got there.
And his name's cooler.
So his...
He lived in a house with a bunch of guys
and they had a hallway
that connected all the bedrooms.
And that hallway had a name as well.
And a photo of Arsenio Hall.
Thank you.
I thought he'd like it.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
You did the Action Jackson things?
Charter School in San Angelo.
And I do this story because
this is potentially going to become more of a thing as the voucher thing takes off.
We know about these schools that are sort of popping up that are sports schools that magically cost exactly $10,000 a year.
But this school in San Angelo put 20 kids in the hospital after a conditioning punishment.
What was it?
It is, it sounds a lot like when we were, was it, myocarditis?
It's the push-up thing.
If you make somebody physically just do push-ups until they can't.
Oh, a few years ago.
That's what I'm saying.
Lady and Rockwall or something.
Correct.
And we had Fox 4 might have had her on because she went to the news.
But yeah, there's 20 kids got put in the hospital because of this.
Oregon failure.
Then the school, of course, tries to cover it up, which is way more common in a private school.
The cover up?
Way more.
But they had 20 kids hospitalized from February 27th to March 2nd.
Sounds like they're weak.
Doesn't you think you'd stop after the first one?
Right.
Sounds like he's weak.
Yeah, everybody's...
Can't win in the hospital.
Getting filtered out here.
I'm laser-focused on winning.
Can't win in the hospital is a good one.
A story that I'm positive, Sean Rab is seen today, but a Dallas police officer in a little bit of trouble.
he was arrested Tuesday evening.
He was in a city-owned vehicle.
Now, it doesn't say that it was a marked lights and siren black and white,
but it does say he was at a city-owned vehicle
when he attempted to solicit a prostitute.
I saw this story on Fox 4, yeah.
I think it was unmarked.
It was.
Undercover, whatever.
But it's still, you're on the clock.
You're in the car.
You're not in your car.
You're in the government car.
Yeah.
And when they attempted to stop him, he took off and led them on a brief chase.
Well, you know.
Which is really just goes to every cop.
I don't know if you guys ever been in the car with a cop when he's not on duty.
They still drive.
My stepdad would still drive like a cop.
Because what's going to happen to him?
Well, and also he just probably rightfully assumes I can drive better than everyone.
I'm used to doing this.
Yes, I feel that.
Sure.
And so maybe the guy just instinct kicks in and he's like, I think I could probably get out of this.
We had a lot of off-duty cops, whatever, working at the high school.
And one of them explained to me that they all use the same wallet.
So that if ever pulled over, like before he's even got, and the wallet is set up so that you've got your driver's license and a police ID.
So you can't see one without the other.
Made the display.
He was telling me this as he was driving like 90 down the highway.
So yeah, this guy was, he was taken off, not pulling over.
And then right around the time that the police were going to let go, he stopped.
They were going to let him take off and let somebody else pick it up on the freeway.
It was about to become a real speed chase.
So did he ever get a lady or he was just propositioning her?
I believe the latter.
That's where he's got to be like those, was it the Louisville guy or who is,
Who are the guys going too far?
Louisville Police was making sure they gathered all the evidence.
Yeah.
We're not going to lose another case.
We've got to go back into the massage parlor.
That's right.
Just to make sure.
I wasn't really sure if she did that.
I have a little bit of news regarding our former employer.
Hawkeye in the morning.
The country music station, the morning show over there.
their show is auctioning off a guitar.
It's a guitar that apparently has been sitting in the prize contest at Cumulus for years,
and it's signed by Taylor Swift.
Oh, they just happened to find it and like, whoa.
Their current promotions director, who I've never heard of,
they've probably had 10 since we've been there.
Well, let me tell you this.
At New Country, 963.
Well, I'll bet you Hawkeye would probably.
check Taylor Swift's autograph against this, but there are a lot of guys who have been in and out of
that prize closet who might have just signed it, Taylor Swift.
So they did have it authenticated.
Also, who are you hearing this from?
Hawkeye, has he always been honest with you in his dealings?
He has made fake websites.
Do you know Hawkeye?
I don't know.
Are you aware of his existence?
What was it back in the, he said it was the 90s.
No, I know he did a fake homer call, but he was doing something like...
Redskins, Eagles.
No, it was like, yeah, PETA, right, was complaining about the name Eagles, Cardinals, like within the NFL, and they were demanding, and they were going to have a rally downtown.
He made a website out of it.
Like, he did a whole thing, sent out press releases.
Maybe this is before websites.
It was on the sports reporters.
Yeah.
Like, he is all about deception.
So that makes me, yes.
On one hand, maybe.
Okay.
Well, I'm telling you.
If he's doing an auction, it's got to be legitimate.
He's not just doing an auction.
He's doing an auction where they're donating the money to Cook's Children Medical Center.
So I think that if this is a long con, it probably runs out when you get to the charity.
No, what if you busted him?
Hey, this is not Taylor.
Yeah.
Okay.
You want us to give your back your $5,000?
And then so.
They just pull the plug on a kid the second thing.
No, you just take some food out of their hand and make him start crying.
Like video it.
I also absolutely believe that QMIS could lose track of a Taylor Swift sign.
See, that's what I was going to say even with Sharnie.
Like, if you weren't in radio to any capacity, their closet's full of stuff.
There's just stuff everywhere.
TV2, though.
You ever been to your prize closet?
No, I haven't been in the prize closet.
Oh, okay.
It's awesome, yeah.
Cuckoo's taking me up there.
I also saw the note this morning that Cumulus.
You want some CSI hats?
Oh no, wait, that's CBS.
Sorry.
I was going to say.
How dare you?
Whatever.
I also saw a note this morning that Cumulus is still going through their bankruptcy settlement.
So while I know there are kids who are hungry, it feels like they could sell this guitar.
Put a little something down.
It's too much.
All right.
There is a town, Dan, out near Houston.
And Magnolia.
I'm positive.
You're familiar, you know?
It's a suburb about an hour outside.
And there's a mayor there who's in trouble.
He was sued yesterday by a former city employee, and he was arrested yesterday and booked
into Tarrant County Jail.
He was booked up here because he allegedly assaulted a fellow city employee on a work trip
up here in November.
They were in Fort Worth.
So I saw this story and saw the charge,
which is, as a man, Matthew Danzer,
charged with assault on a pregnant person.
Okay.
It says person?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like the moon person?
Yeah.
I think it probably was written that way pre-woke and
it's just crosshairs now.
They wanted the alliteration.
Assault on a pregnant person.
was the charge.
And so I started thinking, like, that's a confusing one.
Because it doesn't, is it a sexual assault?
But it's definitely...
Was it a physical?
You see what I'm saying?
Like, if you got in a fist fight, you'd be like, oh, that's a man, or they'd say he'd fight.
But if it's sexual, it would say that.
So I obviously tried to dig a little bit.
Could this also mean grabbing an arm and shaking real hard?
Is it a felony?
It is.
Yeah, third-degree felony.
And official oppression. Adding pregnant makes it, yeah.
So it turns out that he had been harassing this woman for quite some time.
She filed a lawsuit the day before.
He would introduce her.
I guess she was a secretary.
And boy, you want to talk about what would happen if we got a mayor McDowell over here.
He would introduce her as the city sextary.
Wow.
Like instead of secretary, sexitary.
Yeah.
Sexitary.
There's a guy, yeah, it's just.
Having some fun.
A little low creativity, though.
You would never.
I wouldn't do that.
I feel like he would.
But would he give her a nice open palm slap on the bottom to let her know she's doing a good time?
Very good job.
The lawsuit is primarily about just non-stop comments.
Like he would just not stop commenting on her appearance, commenting.
commenting on her sex life.
That was all before.
Then the conference happens in November,
which he's just been arrested for,
which they say he sexually harassed her
and grabbed her by the throat.
And she was pregnant at the time.
So that's what...
Back when you got in the game,
they were telling you that's part of you had to do that, right?
Harassed the ladies in the newsroom.
No.
Oh, no?
Okay.
But it used to be more prevalent.
There certainly has been a shift, though.
Were you ever in a newsroom where they were smoking?
Yeah.
Okay.
Back in the day.
I mean, that's the one thing you'd wish they'd bring back, right?
Every TV show also, right?
Yeah.
You know, every TV show.
Smoking on set.
Hell, I'm sure somewhere in Fox or CBS's history, right?
They've got those archive tapes down in the basement.
Dudes have ashtray right on this new set.
Don't you think?
Somewhere.
Probably.
Have I seen like Mike Wallace
video of...
Oh yeah.
There was a sports guy in San Antonio
named Dan Cook.
And Dan Cook would sit there,
ashtray, you'd see the smoke coming up.
We'll be right back after this brief time up.
I love it.
Blake, a horse therapy
company.
No.
In Argyle.
Great.
Is back in business.
What do you mean? Like your horse is depressed?
I wish.
But...
No. I think it turns out it's like TC didn't quite do horse therapy, but did you know that when T.C. was a bad kid and they do this with bad kids, they'll make him go take care of a horse.
Okay. It wasn't a full-sized horse.
But I think it's part of a bad year. But this, you know, they'll use it for autism, this and that.
Do any of these bad kids end up abusing them?
If you allow me, it's an extremely white person news story.
I mean, it's horse, it's equine therapy.
Okay.
It seems like a bit much.
Okay, so this could have gone in a lot of different directions.
But you're saying this place allows people to come and take care of their horses?
And you ride them and you form a bond with them.
Like there's some level of...
But I see what Blake's getting at.
Because I have cleaning therapy at my...
What a grift.
Right.
I have lawn mowing therapy.
Here, kid.
Yeah, come...
I mean, every...
Every charity's, like, you know, kind of living off that, right?
Like, wouldn't it feel good for you to help us out for free?
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
And we also have a couple brief updates here.
The prostitute, the alleged in Godly, was arrested.
Oh.
So did a great story with David from Fox 4, where she wore the Stars jersey in that news story that she was wearing.
That David would go casual on you, though.
He's poncho guy.
Yeah.
but just jeans.
Yeah, he's out of the field.
Yeah.
I think that's how it should be.
I don't know.
Sean Rob doesn't do that, man.
I know, but.
Is there some reason there, too?
You're always in a suit, man.
Yeah, it's different generation.
Dude, that's all that is.
This is the way you're going to do your job and you are not going to...
I'm going into somebody's home.
I want to look a certain way.
However, other people dressed it, I'm cool with that.
Okay.
Okay, I didn't know if you felt restricted and just wished you had the opportunity to...
No.
Let's put on a track suit.
Like NBA coaches, you know.
They switched over during COVID.
They did switch over during COVID.
And I think we're worse for the wear on that.
Yeah, I like the coaches.
I like the coaches.
Looking a little more authoritative.
Now that I've seen both, I agree.
Yeah.
Still remember Tom Landry on the sidelines.
Sport coat with Tom Landry, no suit, but always in the hat.
I do wish NFL coaches would try a little more to play with their look.
You know, I mean, Jack,
El Rio tried it, right, after his dad was a suit guy.
Yeah, it was outlawed.
It went very poorly.
Mike Nolan had to fight to be able to wear a suit.
Wasn't that like an underarmor suit?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rebock was the original one.
And speaking of David and Fox 4.
The problem is Belichick.
It's because he's so good and then dressed so crappy that it's like...
And you are playing sports.
Like the coach isn't playing, but like...
My gym teacher didn't wear a suit.
I like him to look like a CEO, though.
What changed in the Gawley story?
They arrested her.
She was flaunting knowing she wouldn't be caught, right?
Well, she's...
Do you know about, like, other guys' stories or no?
I watch Box 4.
You do?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, I didn't know if you actually sat and watched the news.
I do.
Because you live it.
I watch it at night, though.
Yeah.
This is a...
Because, yeah, the lady was on a week ago or two weeks ago.
wearing the jersey that she, like, was photographed.
Excuse me.
The photograph that she used to advertise her wares.
Advertise being a prostitute.
It was a stars jersey.
And when David interviewed her, she was sitting there wearing that stars jersey.
And I don't know if.
Like, kind of as an FU, like, hey, I know I'm not going to get busted here.
I'm just going to go ahead and wear the jersey.
That was our interpretation of that anyway.
Yeah.
She was arrested without incident, so she may have known there's more coming here, but they believe in their case.
And yeah, man, I'm learning a bunch behind the scenes on all this stuff.
It's fun.
This must be his whole life.
So I went to high school with a couple of the people involved in this story.
Okay.
And so now every day I'm hearing from people I haven't heard from in 10, 15, 20, 25 years.
Like, oh, I got to lose something on this.
I'm like, damn.
This is Sean's whole life.
But to David's, one of David's more recent popular stories we covered, just wanted to let you know that post-robbery, Gucci Main has released a song, responding to Poo Shisty, robbing him, kidnapping him, taking his earrings at a Dallas studio.
He has...
Title? He has clap back. What's it called? It's a crash dummy. But we had a lot of fun with David,
listening to David, report that story, Sean. We're not talking about low-level rappers here,
guys who are trying to make it. TMZ tells Fox 4 to let go of Poo Shisty would have been a financial
blow to Gucci Mains record label. Just the way he says, Poo Shisty. I love it.
He does a little pause. Poo Shisty lives in Frisco.
But a little pause before and after, too.
It's always just a little emphasis on pooh-shy-hasty.
All right, there's your news.
Thank you so much for joining us for the news, Sean Robb.
The Dumbstone News.
Like and subscribe.
That was a good news.
Yes.
As you, Lee, well, we're going to do birthdays and stuff now.
You could stay all you want, but I know we contracted you till 2 o'clock.
Is that the most uncomfortable couch?
you've ever sat on.
Something.
We get a lot of complaints about the couch, and I apologize.
But hopefully we'll have a nicer one in the new building.
It's a new furniture?
Is it in the budget?
In our budget?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kind of.
Sort of.
Yeah.
We've been driving, you know, past, you know, through rich neighborhoods
looking for people throwing stuff out.
That works, by the way.
Chappie.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
When you get a divorced dad, your parents divorced?
divorced dad
I will
I outfited my dad's
apartment by picking stuff out of the garbage
in our neighborhood
If you know where to drive
There's stuff
Always
Always
Divorced parents
Sean Rab from a broken home
Deceased parents
Oh gosh damn it
Didn't see that coming did you
No I was
They never had the opportunity
To fall out of love he says
And you
No
Well we thank you
Sean Rab
Hey.
Thank you all.
Fun times for joining us.
He probably already has the book, right?
Oh, yes.
We offer each one of our, here, hand this to Sean.
He certainly has it.
This is a dumb zone, uh, Yeti.
Oh.
Oh.
You said you drink coffee.
I do.
And then this, of course, is we give one of these to each one of our guests.
Okay.
I don't know that you need it, though.
Oh, I actually have it.
Of course you do.
That's my boy.
I had him on my TV show.
I had him on.
I do the segment each week called Here and Now on Thursday night, Sunday nights,
and I had him on when he wrote the book.
Jim Shoots?
Yeah.
When he wrote the book, that was a long time ago.
Well, when they re-put it, yeah, it was re-released.
Oh, okay.
When we got the books and we got Jim Shoots.
Yeah, he's a great dude.
Yeah, yeah.
Great book.
Great book.
Like, oh, Dallas, it's not racist.
It's great.
There's no racist history in Dallas.
Ah, we're not the South.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thank you.
you, Sean. We're going to move on and do
birthdays now. All right. Thank y'all.
That's the great Sean Rab.
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Let's do some viewer mail birthdays.
We have Dear Uncle Hotmail,
Today is the Andrew Sendejo on the Cowboys birthday.
Holy shoot, I forgot that.
Of my identical twin brother,
Major Alex Gaston, USMC.
Nice.
I wanted to take this opportunity to recognize him
for having the courage to nominate himself
as the Stars hometown hero at the New Year's Eve game.
That's so good.
No, no, it's cool.
You don't have to stand, but hey, I want to put one thing out here one week out,
and a lot's going to change.
But you bringing up Andrews and Dejo and forgetting that that's somewhere in this last 20 years,
20 years of abortion we've had at this position,
they're starting to mock him to six.
The Cowboys, yeah.
They're starting to mock Caleb Downs in a trade-up from the Cowboys.
to the Giants at six or someone at five,
that's like the most heavily mocked thing as of yesterday,
is the safety from Ohio State,
which you were like,
I wonder if they've been kind of itching
to do a little Mo Claiborne type shit.
It's been a minute.
Is it 12 and 20 for 6?
Yes.
He could fall to 12.
That's why it's dicey.
That feels very...
Do you think they'd do 12 and 20,
or would it be like 12 in a second?
The mocks have it as that's what it's going to take.
Well, they don't have a second.
Good, future.
Dude, but if they take a safety...
20 to move up six spots is...
Eight?
Yeah, six spots, yeah.
That's terrible.
It's overpaying.
And it's overpaying also for a position that people say you're not supposed to draft high.
But, man...
Good player.
If you ever need an expert on flying the AH-1-Z cobra attack helicopter or a chiropractor, let us know.
Never punt.
Always play Zeke at center from Sam Gaston.
Dear Uncle Dumbzone,
Can I just say if Top Shot
Like actually ever popped?
Do you remember the idea was you'd be able to have like it on frames in your house?
You'd have an NFT of Luca hitting the three against the clippers
And it would just play like a poster.
That actually seemed kind of cool to me.
Like you walk into a dude's sports room and it's like,
Oh, damn, you have shack break in the backboard?
I would centerpiece.
Zeke at center.
Snapping the ball of that, getting blown up.
I don't play of the season.
Have you seen this?
People would be like, holy shit, dude.
They'll have a picture up and they'll have a QR code at the bottom right,
and you can scan it and, like, see the video.
Or hear the...
That's interesting.
It's a bit cumbersome.
But I don't hate it.
But yeah, Zeke, Zeeke, that should live forever.
Did Shottie have something to do with that play?
Yes.
He would have been an analyst.
I thought that was bones.
No.
Yeah, Shottie wasn't.
Analyst.
The Zieg Center play?
Yes.
I bet you a million dollars he wasn't.
Boy, Shottie apologists.
I thought that was bones.
It's McCarthy.
I know.
Shottie worked for McCarthy.
That's what I'm saying.
2024 was Zieg's last season with the Cowboys.
Brian Schottnheimer was an offensive consultant for the Dallas Cowboys starting.
The Green Bay loss is whatever he was the consultant.
Is that when he was 49ers game?
He was Sean McVeigh.
Brian Schottonheimer hired as a coaching.
analyst in 2022. He was nominally the offensive coordinator in 23 and 24.
So when was the game? 22. So the only crossover is as an analyst. Can I put this in the time capsule?
I think Zeke is going to be fat. So wait.
Gonna be? Yeah. He's already fat. Can we get an answer? He was not an analyst for that 49ers game.
For 22? The game might have been played in 22, but it was a 21 season. He was not an analyst for the 49ers. Sorry, I don't mean the.
Well, let's find out. The show can continue.
No, no.
Please give a birthday shout out to D.F. Keaton.
It's not his Cooper Flagg birthday, but that's close enough.
He says you guys are his favorite Manosphere non-sports podcast.
My leader is canceling my birthday party when I discover...
My leader is canceling my birthday party when I discover my two benefactors won't reluctantly have a threesome with me.
Yeah.
That can be tough.
Who amongst us?
Right.
Jim Nance voice, how about that?
How about that?
From D.F. Brian.
How about that?
San Francisco game, my friends, took place in January of 2023, the end of the 2022 season in which Brian
Schottenheimer was a coaching analyst.
You're fighting him, not nice.
No, no, no, no.
But he wins.
That's the point.
I don't know that he drew the play up, but he was doing something to impress them so much to
become the head coach a few years later.
My million dollars will be to a cashier's checks to you shortly.
And one came in during the show, I believe.
Hey, Dumb's own crew.
It's my boyfriend's 48th birthday.
Actually, we're not going to comment on personal matters of our listeners.
If you could just move on.
Shut up.
48th birthday, Matthew Millam.
Millam?
Milam.
And I'd love if you can give him a shout-down.
You have your bags back for me, Lom.
Please tell Jake that...
Oh, God.
I'm just taking it to dick over here.
I made an error on the errors.
Never good.
It's not like you made one, like eight errors, dude.
Come on.
And you're coaching blast ball?
Dude, how about this shit?
Practice Friday?
Nah.
We're going to get together for a picture.
You have to meet?
Bet.
How about the pictures?
Before the game?
Or we practice after the picture.
They're like, there'll be no practice.
Just get together for a picture.
I'm like, I'll fucking email you a picture of him, Photoshop him in.
Get off my ass.
This is insane.
This is Big Talk.
You're going to be at that practice.
Like a pussy.
If there's a practice, I'd be there.
You're not going to be at the picture.
You're guaranteeing it.
I'm going to fight it.
Big Talk guy.
Did you know high schools are not doing the team photo anymore?
Why not?
They're taking the individual pictures and then stacking them as if.
You remember getting on the best?
big bleachers all as a team and having to take the picture.
They're not so good.
They're not doing that anymore.
They got to start doing it again.
How are we ever going to get the country back if we can't?
If this is where we're headed, she's going to keep losing.
What could possibly be the logic?
It's hard to get that many people together.
It's not that hard.
It's not that hard.
It's not that hard.
Oh, God.
His eyes are closed.
This guy's not paying attention.
You just line them up one by one.
And then you just put him in after the fact.
It's terrible.
P.S.
please tell Jake that Matt
Matt has a titanium
radial head implant
and a plate and screws
on his radius and ulna from a
marathon training fall
and it has never set off the TSA
security at the airport.
He said it's a bummer like he wants to
settle off. Well, I'm going to try Saturday.
I'm flying Saturday, so we'll see.
Cheers from Nashville, Tennessee.
Cashville, Teneke.
From Kelly.
K.E.L.
L-L-I-E, which I think is hotter than if you use a Y.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
Kelly with an eye sounds like a girl who listens to Sublime, which you know is interesting.
She has tattoos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's do some today in history.
We're going to call a game day.
And I want you also, Jake, to throw that song in the drop box.
Got you.
as we produce on the air.
I should have had it in there earlier.
Do you think Sean Rab had a good time?
No.
No, I don't, but I did.
Yeah, I enjoyed his presence.
Do you think he'll ever do it again or no?
No.
No, I think he would, if we asked, he would do it again,
but I want to remain steadfast that I don't think he had a good time.
Hmm.
That's okay, though.
He's a kind guy.
That's probably why he didn't have a good, like, he realized we're not his people.
I think so.
I think so.
He doesn't like me.
It's a comedy show.
He likes Blake.
I think he loves Blake.
Mustache.
Yo.
There's definitely something to do that.
The old,
the advice.
Gameday.
Dot dumbzone.com.
We're going to call Game Day right now.
We're calling the...
Oh, nice.
What's the Rowlet location today?
Aaron Gathman.
I bet it's more of a flow in his name.
Ostensibly, if Darley Routier's husband would have been going to Game Day,
he would have been keeping that thing happy and then...
Was she from Rowlett?
That's what he said.
Okay, let's ask Aaron about that.
If you're going to let it dial on the air?
Are you going to play a little thing?
No.
I want to hear it.
I'm still kind of fascinated by Blake's.
Like, we're all trying to, how are we going to do fun summer content?
He's like, what have we just studied all the women who killed their babies?
That's not, that was a huge story that we could educate Dan on.
And then the people think she didn't do it.
People think they did.
Hi, it's Mikeya with Game Day.
Oh, hello.
Hi, how are you?
Good. How are you doing?
I'm good.
What's your name?
Makaya with Game Day Men's Health.
Mackaya with Game Day.
I'm Dan.
I'm Jake.
Hi, Dan.
Hi, Jake.
And we got Blake here, too.
We're doing a program right now.
We're doing a show.
Oh, okay.
And we are promoting Game Day Men's Health on our little show.
Our show is called The Dumb Zone.
Oh, okay.
I've heard about you guys.
Nice.
How so?
Social media, really.
Social media stuff with Game Day Men's.
health. We have a special website. It's gameday.dumzone.com just for our listeners to go there
to get 10% off the TRT for life. Do you guys do TRT at the Rowlett location?
Yes, we do, and we also offer 10% off to anyone who listens to you guys' podcast.
10% off? Everything.
Yeah.
For how long?
Yeah, how long? Is this just for like a week or so?
for as long as you're here.
Whoa.
What's the employee discount?
I'm not really sure.
I don't really use anything here.
It's not called ladies' day, it's elf.
No, no, no. I'm just...
Listeners get 10 and employees get five.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Well, we want to have more than the employees is what Blake is saying.
I want to be special.
Our listeners, yeah.
Anyway, what do you think...
Well, they're special.
If they come here, they'll be special regardless.
What do you think of Aaron?
Aaron's great.
He's really nice.
It's not what we've heard.
Yeah, he is a really nice person.
Very chill, late back guy.
He's not up your ass all the time, screaming at you?
No.
No, never.
Close the deal!
Get him rocked up!
Are you the one that gives the shots?
Yeah, I give the shots.
I also can create your appointment if you like me too.
Okay, where exactly are you guys located?
I know it's Rowlett, but for those that want like a landmark,
are you anywhere near the Rowlett 9-11 Memorial?
No, but we are near, like, a target.
It's off of Lakeview Parkway.
Our location is 3705 Lakeview Parkway.
There's a dart station over there, too.
There's a dart station?
Yeah.
Yeah, there is.
Could you walk from the dart station to Game Day Men's Health?
Or is it too far?
No, you could.
I could see the dart station out of my window.
What do you have there to, besides yourself, that men would be interested in going, like, do you have TVs there?
Yeah, we have TVs here.
We have all of the snacks.
What do you have on the TV?
Is it like the Young and the Restless and other?
I love snacks.
Or is it like sports?
Sports.
Yeah, sports, yeah.
Guys love that stuff.
Now when there's golfers, do they have both arms?
I would hope so, yeah.
The golfers do, not the reporters.
And if they don't, that's fine.
Yeah.
Do you hear about the wings?
Well, the wings are a women's basketball team, professional team in Dallas,
and they have a player they drafted last year, their best player.
And then this year they were drafting another player, and they drafted her girlfriend.
Oh, are you talking about Paige?
Page.
They drafted Paige's college teammate and girlfriend.
We were just discussing...
Yeah, I've heard about them, actually.
What do you think of that situation?
We have a boyfriend and girlfriend on the same team.
They kind of have to do it, but let's all act like adults here.
This presents some challenges.
What if they start having sex on the court?
Oh, no.
Oh, well, I don't think they would do that.
But I don't think it would, you know, as long as they can focus on their professional basketball playing,
then I think they'll be fine.
Do you think it would be weird if two pro football players?
Like the Raiders have a player they drafted last year named Ashton Gentie.
They're about to draft a player named Fernando Mendoza.
If those two guys were having sex, do you think it would be a story?
I don't think it would be weird.
No, I feel like everyone is entitled to do what they want to do.
Cossine. Yeah, retweet.
I'll bet you they could go to Game Day Men's Health if they were having trouble having sex, right?
No doubt.
You guys can help with that?
They could come here.
All types.
Yeah, we help with all types of erections.
I'll dysfunction here, yeah.
Okay.
E.D.
we like to call it just to not really, you know, draw attention to it.
Okay, I'm sorry.
That's okay.
But yeah, you guys deal with that.
It's not an embarrassing thing to go to Game Day Men's Health to deal with that
because they deal with it all the time.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, great talking to you.
Tell Aaron we said hi.
I will.
Thank you for giving us a call.
Okay.
And go game day.
Thank you.
Bye, bye.
There's a...
Bye-bye.
Gameday.
com.
Are we done with the show?
Oh, no.
Now we're doing this.
The whole thing left.
I want to play a video before we go.
Okay.
Is this closing remarks?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because today is Thursday, April 16th, on this day in 1895.
Owner George Vanderbeck
named his baseball team the Detroit creams.
I'm sorry.
He boasted that they would become the cream of the league.
See?
The cream of the league, I tell you.
I love that.
Ink-stained wretches, the scribes, the scribes, the writers.
Did not like that.
And back then, the writers would often just name
the teams and one of the writers headlined a story that said struthers he was the manager the tigers
showed up very nicely his tigers played well and uh that stuck like do you know how the dodgers are
called the dodgers draft no what is it trains their outfit yeah yeah street cars and stuff
okay trying to avoid trains okay my my wife was uh kind of blown away last night that she's i guess
doing Mad Men?
Did they wrap...
He's a draft dodger, right?
Like, wasn't that?
Because I only watched like half the show and there was always kind of flashbacky
shit where he's like, I'm in the war.
Is that how he ended up on the lamb?
Is this how they wrapped it up?
I thought he had like a switched identity with somebody who was in the war.
Is that what it was?
Okay.
I never did it.
Okay, my bad.
I thought TC did.
And I knew Dan did, but I wasn't counting on Dan.
I did, but I don't remember shit.
You know, I only saw the episodes,
you watched with that one lady you would bring over to our house.
Well, she was my girlfriend, so why don't we not make it sound like I...
That's a random lady.
So the reason I don't remember is because on this day in 1943,
Swiss scientist Albert Hoffman discovers the psychedelic effects of LSD.
Big things going down in Basel, Switzerland.
This is my summer of love.
Never taking it.
On this day in 1947, there was a couple of big explosions in Texas City, Texas.
There's a give up and naming.
Okay.
New York might have two cargo.
New York's worst.
Yeah.
It's even worse.
It is tough to explain to it.
It's just York.
We were in York.
We just left a place called York.
We hated it.
Oppression.
They wouldn't let us freely, you know, worship our own God.
and what do you want to name this place?
How about New York?
Yeah.
What about the city?
It's a different one.
Anyway, a couple of big ships blew up.
600 people died.
This is 1947.
They were carrying ammonium nitrate fertilizer.
On this day in 1955,
Elvis Presley did a show in Dallas.
I should ask my neighbor.
tickets were 60 cents for adults, 30 cents for children.
On this day in 1972, the Texas Rangers beat the California Angels
for the first victory in franchise history.
And on this day in 2017, let's go back to Switzerland,
where a world record was set for the largest gathering of Charlie Chaplin lookalikes.
Uh-oh.
Hey, guys.
This is 2017.
Was just this an end around?
I just don't want it happening on continental Europe.
Yeah, that's...
Had it in Los Angeles.
And end around to be wearing your little mustache.
They all get together and they're like,
what if we practice walking?
Does anyone have an idea for like a specific type?
Unfortunately, it was because it was held at Chaplin's World,
that is a museum in a Swiss town
where Chaplin spent the last 25 years of his life.
Oh, wow.
So who knew?
He retired to chaplain?
That's interesting.
April 16th, Dumb Zone history.
What do we have on this day?
On this day on the show in 2021,
Jake says every team that needs a quarterback
will regret passing on Justin Fields.
Yeah, the great debate between T.C. and myself,
I still think Justin Fields is good.
I think most people who have a brain think Justin Fields is good,
but there are a lot of you who don't,
so I can't just have you not exist.
The last several years have been very tough.
I don't know this is the debate.
Whenever the Bears drafted him,
I wanted him to be an MVP.
Justin Fields is a great player.
But it's gone, really, really bad.
Standing beside Justin Fields?
Did he find God and stuff?
Couldn't find his receivers downfield.
He's to find himself in the film room.
No, he's trash.
You're right.
And then we also had Hope Trout Wine on.
Oh, she struck out like 21 people or something.
She threw a perfect game for North Texas softball in which she struck out every batter.
Where is she?
Her transfer to OU.
Yeah, she did, but.
I think she's coaching now.
The first three innings were immaculate innings.
Nine pitches?
Nine pitches, nine strikes, three strikeouts.
That's awesome.
Is there any level you could do that against?
My nephew's team.
Yeah, yeah.
So Blake can against his nephew's team, but do you guys...
No.
No, they'd rattle me.
That I'd be up there laboring.
Good for her.
I like to work the edges, so it's tough to get the immacculating there.
Look, that's not what Greg Maddox was after.
Elsewhere, birthday is Keone Keller, 33.
Antonio Alfonseca is 54.
He is El Pupo.
The octopus.
Didn't he have six fingers and six toes?
On each, you know, having only six.
I remember when I first heard about that.
He had six on each hand.
And I would say that this conversation was carried forth by Oscar Pistorius.
But when you learn that someone had another finger and they're throwing a baseball,
It does ask the question at what level of natural human disfiguration would you say you can't play sport?
It's an unfair advantage.
Like if Goro showed up.
They say Michael Feld's body type is very...
Yeah, it's made for it.
Yeah.
So, like, if you had eight fingers as someone who's trying to learn how to throw a baseball, there's a lot you can do with that.
But don't, aren't you also born with a better, stronger muscle that will allow you to throw,
95 or whatever?
Right.
So, where's somewhere in there,
like what if there's a real anomaly?
Right.
And you're born with a muscle that you can throw 130, like Sid Finch.
Right.
Like you're born with what the kid had on Rookie of the Year after he got hurt.
I mean, it's never happened so far, right?
Someone being disallowed from sports because they're too good.
Right.
All I'm saying is it raises the question that it's...
Not like the MMLB or the MNBA.
Right. Where was it?
MNBA.
Bill Belichick, 74 today.
Is he woken up in that special way?
He better be, dude.
He better be, yeah.
It would be super disappointing to learn that he, like, barely gets pussy.
Right.
Like, he's having to really work for it.
He doesn't look like he goes to gameday.dumzone.com, but he's got to be doing that
if he's keeping up with her, right?
You'd have to think.
You'd have to think.
You still think North Carolina is in the playoff next year?
That's as bad as Justin Fields.
It was a two-year thing, yeah.
Absolutely.
Okay.
They open up in Ireland with TCU.
That's going to be big.
You going?
No.
Jonathan Vilma is 43.
Why don't they call the show Vilma?
From Bounty Gate.
Hell of a player.
Terrible analyst.
Kill the head and the body will be.
die kareem abdul jabar is 79
nolan aeronado is 35 what has happened
to him
Nate Diaz is 41
he just said he's 39
no he knows what fuck gazelle is
Nate Diaz MMA meathead
Gina Carrano 44
another interview where you were
in close proximity
I don't like what you're saying
is if I had nothing to do with those interviews
I'll review the tapes if you want I don't know if you had a lot of questions for
these MMA fighters.
I absolutely did.
I'm very interested.
Gina Carrano is a female MMA meathead.
FMMA.
FMMMMMA.
Martin Lawrence is 61.
What a great man.
John Cryer is 61,
who I think for many years
was like the number one highest paid guy on TV.
And you had no idea who he was.
Yeah.
We all didn't.
Peter Billingsley is 55.
unbookable in the guest booking league.
I actually mailed him sweatshirts and gifts and...
I really tried with Peter Billingsley.
He was Ralphie in a Christmas story.
Who's the one that hates a Christmas story?
You?
I love it.
Okay.
I'll watch it every year.
Anyone with any sense would hate it.
Yeah, I don't really know that I might have seen it once
and it might have been for the show and thought,
what are we doing here?
It's on TBS
24 hours
All day
Here comes Mr. Ohio
And you're like
What are we doing
This obscure movie that no one's ever seen?
No no I mean it just looked
I don't know
Christmas what are we doing
You're watching movies about Christmas
Why don't you go to space camp
Like that's
I can't
I'm saying we shouldn't watch Christmas movies around Christmas
Well I mean just in general
In general just being like
Man I'm excited about this holiday
film.
Wait.
All right, man.
Careful on 34th Street.
Tonight, Jake's house.
Yeah, like, how about never?
Like, they're for women.
Get in the spirit.
No.
And see, this is because...
Christmas is for women.
It's because I was raised in...
Novelty movies are for women?
Like, at the heart of Christmas.
I was raised to Christmas.
You were raised in Christmastown.
Yeah.
Chance the rapper is 33.
Sadie Sink is 24.
Is that...
I don't know who that is.
Go on.
You do you know who it is
It's Maxine from Stranger Things
I was going to get the YouTube
Firm for it
Damn it
That's another thing too
Very respected newsman's going to walk out of here
Completely convinced
I love the show Frasier
It's a tough day for me
Your Frazier
Guy to him
It's a good show
I mean
He did.
Review the tape, he started laughing and goes,
it was a great show.
He's right.
Anya Taylor Joy is 30.
What if that's the thing that he makes you guys best friends?
And I have to run out this whole play.
Yeah, you got to start watching them.
Niles is back.
I don't recognize.
Oh, Queen's Gambit, huh?
He's in a million things.
He's in a million things.
A singer, today's still alive is Bobby Vinton.
is 91.
And today's
dumb zone birthday of the day is
Tom Segura is 47.
I would have thought older.
Just because he's been around a long time?
Because I think he looks pretty good.
But maybe he looked old and then he got looking younger.
Because he used to be so much fatter and grosser.
Yeah.
He just looks like a lot of guys at my gym.
I struggle with him.
T.C. knows that.
Because I mean, dude, seriously,
I don't think I'm like offended by jokes.
I'm not.
I enjoy that.
little show that Clayton had me watch.
Where he was a action
guy? What was it called? I heard that was actually good.
What's his show?
No. He was called the Thompson. No, there was something recently.
It was like an action star? Yeah.
It was just the Tom Cigura show? Okay.
Bad thoughts.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah. Anyway. But
he's our birthday of the day. He seems like genuinely
like an asshole.
Like every other comedian I listen to. I've never done his stand-up.
Have, like, crazy offensive stuff.
I don't ever wonder, are these, like, halfway decent people?
It seems like, like an asshole.
But whatever.
Born on the Stay Now Dead, Charlie Chaplin.
Blake?
Henry Mancini.
The Panther.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. Born on the Stay Now Dead.
Did you guys hear the Trap remix?
I was trying to find it when we were talking about it the other day.
It's a good workout song.
Oh, I thought you were like.
you're about to play something.
I'll try, but it'll take a minute.
You keep going.
Oh, all right.
Born on this day now, Dad,
Salina.
Oh.
And explaining the break,
Catherine Scorsese,
Martin Scorsese's mother,
also he did a nationwide casting.
Sorry,
just fired off.
I'm sorry!
That's what he said.
To her, right?
Get it?
The wiener thing?
Yeah.
Just fired off.
We just did the day.
Contracting.
Game Day.
That done, son.
Yes, Martin Scorsese did a game,
nationwide search for the best old lady who could be a great actress in this scene.
Rigorous.
With Joe Pesci.
Audition after audition.
And he came up with Catherine Scorsese and his mother.
But she was wonderful in that movie.
We were talking about that before the show, me and KT and T.C.
It sucks that it even works like that and funny.
Like the fact that Tim Hurley's son is on S&L.
I never had a shot.
I don't think it sucks at all, really.
I mean, it makes sense.
You're around it.
There's jeans involved, but...
He's good at it.
When you see it in sports, you're like,
I get it.
I was never going to do that anyways.
Could there be others that would be good at it, too?
That never had near the opportunity and would never get near that opportunity.
Let's see what this sounds like, and if it can get on a Dan workout remix.
It's SoundCloud.
We'll be fine.
I can do this.
Yeah.
So, you know, I used to work out.
I now work out to podcast.
I'll be doing it's just banter.
I'll be doing whatever.
I've probably lost some muscle mass by switching to podcast when lifting instead of.
Right.
I'm listening to the Brunich.
Yeah.
But remember when I did the new Kanye, I'm like, I got to do some old Kanye.
So then I did the old Kanye to work out.
And it reminded me of the days when I would work out to old Kanye.
And so I just tried, and it still works.
Yeah, working out to NFL films.
Good.
That's because you told me that, I'm always looking for stuff that might fit your bill.
Good bit.
Also great, the Notre Dame fight song.
A great song.
That's when you finish your work.
Or if you're doing running and you're trying to sprint the last lap or something.
Okay.
You want that.
Don, dun, dun, dun, dun, don't.
Yeah.
It's great.
It's great.
It's great.
But I thought you'd always told me you did the confess.
better at Warham.
Well, you know, you got to have the, the end.
They top it off.
Yeah.
For the boys.
Dead on this day still dead.
Pat Summerall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I meant to.
That's what I meant for the break.
I was trying to find.
I don't have a...
You're in Washington, Pat.
I don't have that in my Dropbox, unfortunately.
Anyway.
I just told you about something I don't have.
Well, you got the song you need for me.
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Mary Bonds.
I want to introduce you to my new favorite athlete.
Because, uh, this male volleyball player has been all over my...
timeline. I'm so in love with it, dude. I'm so in love with it. And this, right here, I know that
I've already said, I put in your mind the idea of Fernando Mendoza and Ashton Genti being partners,
this video that he's going to play for you makes me wish we had more openly gay players
in our favorite sports, like just bad MFers that were gay as all get out. Dan, have you seen this guy?
Show me. He's a college. So before I play the video, uh, he's a gay,
player.
This kind of
was put on
everybody's radar
when a volleyball
broadcast,
the color guy
said that he
should be punched
for his antics
because he'll do
a little snap on you.
He'll do,
and we'll see the video,
but let me see if this will play.
Yeah,
I mean,
for the fact he was playing volleyball.
I'm amazed
Jordan Lucas
hasn't been popped by somebody.
The antics he's making
under the net.
It's very distasteful.
Okay, so then everyone picks up like he's making fun of the gig.
I don't know.
Anyway, so then people start siding with this guy, Jordan Lucas,
and making highlight montages, mixtapes, what have you.
Fire the video.
Dan, here is the volleyball player.
And he'll do his little fingerwags.
Do his big t-shirt, Billy.
He sticks his butt out.
Love it.
And he does, he like, he pageant waves at him and wiggles his fingers when he walks off.
Is he great?
I mean, he's obviously.
I don't know, but.
Yeah, you could, this is like this.
He'll just.
He's just pimping everything like he's a, like he walks around like he's actually trying to sell his body.
He does look like the, the in living color.
three snaps guys. Yes.
Yeah. That's it's ripped straight from
his face. Like he's just at, he's an extra
zest just to piss people off.
Nice. And it is. Yeah.
See, I thought and I... Yeah, getting beat by him.
We've already gone like a super long show here. So I don't know.
Maybe this is a bad decision because I thought you were going to hit us with.
Do you know the video that has got everyone fired up in sports media today?
There's a girl who is a female reporter and she is
a female reporter for the Mariners, I believe,
and she's over getting ready for her post-game interview,
and someone filmed over her shoulder,
her typing into chat GPT,
good questions after tough baseball loss.
Wow.
Now, here's where things get particularly interesting, Dan,
is apparently this woman recently had a stroke.
Oh.
And maybe just back at work,
recently.
So people are like, what's wrong with asking for a little bit of help?
You're trying to get back into the groove or what's wrong with it?
But I mean, somebody also, there's a privacy issue.
As I've told you guys, I'm terrified of people filming over my shoulder or like recording,
calling your wife Bunny.
And they got it on video with this lady.
She's just into the camera bay.
There's a guy.
Obviously some asshole dude's like, I wonder what she's looking up.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's the egregious thing here.
Yeah, I thought you'd love this story.
But then especially since quickly I learned that there is a force field
and that probably Evan Grant is like,
actually it's not okay to make fun of her.
Then she's not ready to come back to work.
Yeah, is there known in the Pacific Northwest who hasn't had a stroke
that could ask a couple questions?
Is it okay to the fetterman we call this?
Is it okay to take a picture of Stephen A playing solitaire on his phone?
Sure.
Yeah.
But we're all looking at phones, right, just to see, can we read what's on there?
I've taken a picture of a guy's phone in front of me.
I've been tempted.
Very.
It's good stuff.
There you go, Dan.
All right.
Adios, mofo.
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If you can feel anything during sex, here's why the death grip caused a Venice leak and how to fix it.
I was inside her when I felt it happened.
We just...
Switch positions within 30 seconds I went from pretty hard to barely there
She felt it I felt it I tried to keep going nothing that's when I knew something was seriously broken
It felt like trying to fill a tire with a hole in it blood would flow in but it just leaked right back out
For 14 years I've been using way too much pressure when I'm masturbated tight grip fast pace done in
Three five minutes every day I thought that was normal I had no idea I was breaking the exact muscle that keeps you hard
The world and gentle, but if I went hard and fast, no pressure.
The tension in our stuck in this awful cycle, here's what nobody tells you.
Death grip doesn't just numb your nerves, it wrecks the muscle that locks blood in.
There's a muscle called the Bobo Cavanters.
Working completely alone with porn and a tight grip.
I could get maybe 70% hard with my girlfriend, I'd lose it in minutes.
Every position change meant starting from zero, every pause meant going soft.
I'd start okay but just fade over time
Sometimes I'd get these weird half hard moments problem was in my health
There was the muscle damage from 14 years of doing this wrong
Laetio it gave me exercises to release the tension and rebuild the valve muscle not random kegles targeted retrain
It's twice didn't go soft touch
Feels incredible again here's the reality if you've been using death grip your valve is probably broken those muscles are exhausted
Losted blood flows in but won't stay and it gets worse every time
Minut tests see how damage your valve is get the plan to fix it. I waited until I couldn't finish without my own hand
She stopped one to have sex
