The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 4-23-26 | Brandon Aubrey on negotiating with the Cowboys and it's Draft Day

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

Hear every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneIt's draft day in the NFL so we review the 2014 movie, Draft Day, with Kevin Costner and talk with Brandon Aubrey, who just signed a 4 year extension with the Dallas Cowboys. We also discuss what the Cowboys should do tonight, deliver Viewer Mail, and which former President crashed the Cowboys pre-draft press conference (00:00) - Open: Radio's Brad Steele (10:31) - Cowboys: Bill Clinton breaks in (18:29) - The Brandon Aubrey Show (01:11:06) - The 2026 NFL Draft Name Game (01:18:01) - Cowboys needs in the draft (01:27:30) - Big Thursday Viewer Mail Bag (01:56:25) - Draft Day movie review (02:15:05) - News: 24 year old cold case solved (02:24:10) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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I'm Jake Kim. I'm Blake Jones. Here because it is draft. day. Johnny Mansell. And so we are here prepping because tonight we will do another broadcast from here. I was

thinking, has anyone else ever done? Three shows within 26 hours. This is probably the heaviest amount of broadcasting anyone's ever done. I was thinking that over the last well yesterday when I was preparing

the today in history for yesterday. So I'll be ready to copy and paste it next year. So ready. And on the yesterday today in history, I found that, actually, others have broadcast more than like nine hours within 26 hours. Wow, a stronger man than Dan McDowell? I assume it's a man. Absolutely.

In 2015, a guy was taking a crack at the record, though. Ah. The record was like eight days in a row. Broadcasting. The guy who wanted to break the record was Z-99 DJ Brad Steele. Yeah, all right. That fits. Definitely.

Not as a real name, as you'll come to find out later in this story. No, he had to use a different name when he managed a guitar center. So it's Mancato. I think this is Minneapolis area. So Mancato might be a, huh? Mancato. And I only know that because... Is the name of a city?

I think there's a college there. We were recently told that Adam Thielen maybe went to school there. Let's read the account from the day after. DJ Brad Steele ended his attempt to break the Guinness Book of World Records for longest individual radio broadcasts by a DJ. He passed out at the station. Okay. His attempt lasted just over two days and 18 hours.

You're nodding and like, yeah, that's pretty good, right? Yeah. The goal, eight days and eight hours. Yeah, pulled up a little short. So you got a quarter of the way there. He was trying to, it was raising money for a nonprofit leisure education for exceptional people, which is L-E-E-P, Leap. That serves people with intellectual disabilities. His blood pressure rose he just passed out, according to Leap, executive director, Mandy Hunkekeke.

Why did they make the nonprofit lady triage? She and Steele's wife and Steele decided it's in his best interest to stop. Okay. Steele, so his goal was eight days, he lasted two. Goal to raise money for this organization, $20,000. They got three. Three? Leap Outreach Coordinator Kate Debates said,

by no means did he fail? Well, no, by most of the means. I think attempting the world record. and doing what he's done for the last three days has been tremendous. Her name is Kate Debate. Kate Debates. What was your parents thinking? Yeah, that's...

And yes, later, eventually he ended up leaving Z-99 because a rival station stole him away. Because I wanted to feed, like, where is this guy now? Sure. So a rival station steals him away. It's KS95 now And he changed to his real name, Greg Hutchinson He's now part of the Hutch and Stacey afternoon show

But if you're being stolen away because you have some sort of recognition or following Would that be the time to then change your name for like I was searching for Greg Steele I want to find out where's Greg and I couldn't find him There's a shocking number of decisions that are made in business media or otherwise where Dan will be like, hey, why did you do this? And it doesn't seem that anybody else has really thought about it. My first thought was maybe there's like, hey, we're going to the serious rock station. I'm going to go by Hutch now, right?

So there's no sense in it. Hutch is still pretty awesome. There's no sense of it. What if you got around the non-compete? Oh, because of that? Oh, wow, we could have done that. I'm not Brad Steele. I'm just Greg Hutchins.

I do wonder about the parameters, though, because I'm positive that there are tweaker, streamer kids that have set there and streamed for more than two, three days. We did the story. We did it, yeah. I don't know what the, but that's different though, right? There was like eight people there. He's not talking the whole time. I don't know what the rule is. He did like eight days, right? It was more than two. He couldn't play in today's league, this Brad Steele is what I'm saying. On today's program, we will have Brandon Aubrey. He's going to join us pretty soon here. He said he wanted to go like 1145. which is we start every day at 1130 if you listen later so it'll be in just a few minutes

also we're going to review the movie draft day and after watching it I can't believe we haven't reviewed this since it was first out we should review this every year possibly every week I don't know I really like it it's an incredible movie I really like it and yeah we should probably watch it every like draft eve just with the family Coco you know Just make a tradition out of it. What do we got on the draft tonight? Do you want to pimp anything there? It's an Emmerich front.

We got Ted Emmerich coming in. Ted Emmerick, I hope. Okay, well, all of these are I hope. So we can either promote or no. I count on Ted Emerick. John Hampton. Yeah. Former color commentator for the SMU Mustangs.

Mm-hmm. Dominic Robinson. Mm-hmm. I think. I hope and think. But he texts all three of us individually and never totally confirmed that he'll be here. But I sent him the directions and all that and the information. I think sidebar underrated thing in society is just not everybody texts the same.

The way people talked on the phone was more like uniform. Everybody kind of just under texting, there's just way too much lost and confused. Like Dan's not really a text guy because you're just going to get confused. Yeah. So I like to do a call. Ben Baby. Ben Baby. Of ESPN.

Landry Locker? Did anybody get in touch with Landry? He's out. I mean, he can't do it. He's got his own bit. Oh, okay. Ben Baby's quite available. Then he's dead to me.

Because the Bengals traded their pick. So they don't have anything until I think 77 or something like that. Steve Berline? That's what I was setting up here for us, folks. We may be busting the Burline cherry tonight. I got to fly out to California to get in. Turn on his phone. Turn on his computer.

Hit his phone. Hit the Zoom. All right, cool. And a big announcement that we have Coné Roso is going to be out here with the pizza, the woodburning pizza oven. That's part of their pilf catering. And they've locked in not only for draft night,

but for the football season. So Conner Roso and Pilf Catering, that should be your go-to to cater your football watching parties. Or a funeral. Because it's ours. Or cater your funeral watching party. Or your football funeral. Your football funeral.

The streamer Normie made it 12 straight days. Yeah. Just probably hopped up out of his mind. Brad Steele never had a chance. No. Two days? No. Week.

So do you want to do a little Cowboys before Brandon joins us? Sure. Because it was Cowboys pre-draft press conference, which is fun every year. You don't learn a lot. Unless you talk to Stephen, because Stephen will teach you about the draft. He will mansplain the draft. But it always has some fun in it, right? We started with fun, I think.

All righty. Calvin, start us out. Ted, wait a minute. You're going to make a... I just need to inform everybody that what you're about to hear over the next 30 minutes or show may be truthful and it may not be truthful. All right. This is a wrap meeting.

We had to do. do that legally. Yeah. We're coming to good to see you guys. So we're doing a cold open. Are we doing a bit now? We're doing a bit.

We're doing a bit. That was the bit. Sketches. Like he just said, like, Tad had said something funny in a private meeting room with those guys. And they're like, that out there. That'd be great. That'd be great to start the whole thing.

I had to do that. No, you didn't have to do that. He did. And, you know, that sucks, too, because I love to put myself in Tad's spot there. He doesn't want to deliver the line a second time. Right. He's like, oh. He's like, fuck, there's no.

There's no, that was mid, okay. By the way, I know we're an audio-only medium, but I'm just asking, what are we doing? Why? Why am I looking at this? Yeah, the security. We're watching my ring camera. We have a big, cool TV for the draft tonight, very exciting,

but it's hard for me not to look at. Oh, okay. Which is fine. I just want to know what I'm looking for. You're looking at the mobile pet grooming lady who's going to end up walking up to the door, and I kind of want to know when they're coming to the door. Got it. Okay.

Because she's smoking hot. So they set you up with a cold open. They. They. Yeah, yeah, okay. So now where are we? Oh, so very early on, I think the clearance question might be in here, but it's about, yes, because it reminds you of when they used to say, we're all in this year.

So let's ask about what does all in mean? And to Jerry, all in. And did that mean I'm signing for agents? I'm doing crazy deal. No, it meant. I'm going to keep my quarterback. I'm just signing the quarterback to a contract. And then he would reference that over and over.

So he has also claimed, like, this is his aggressive period. And let's tell you, you'll be interested to hear how they're being aggressive. You told us that the combine that you wanted to be more aggressive in for ratings. You plan to be more aggressive in improving this team. Have you done that? And will you take that same aggression into the draft as far as trying to, trying to move up to get a difference-making player. I've done that, yes.

We've signed that kicker for the highest-past kicker in the history of kicking as an example. That's an example. So that's basically it. History of kicking. We're going with that. Honestly, this is like... How long are we going to live on the Brandon Aubrey signed a contract? This is like getting knighted if you're Brandon.

When they start telling you that you're the poster boy for whatever they did that off. Look, we just busted the budget on the kicker. Yeah. That's why we got rid of Trent. Sorry, man. Like, that's what they'll do. Oh, yeah. They'll end up being like,

Dak, we wanted to keep this other player for you, but then you demanded all that money. Sorry. Once you're part of the pie, you've made it. Okay. The Pickens thing will require more talk, I think. And Brandon's going to interrupt us in a moment. So let's play you something of somebody interrupting the press conference.

So Bill Clinton, certainly you've heard this, by now, but Bill Clinton stops by the press conference. And at first, I guess he peeked his head in and then walked out. And then they made the poor reporter, like, keep asking this squad. It was about whatever. But then he comes back in. He's like, actually, I'm here. Let's, uh, let's, this will be fun.

I'm sure somebody behind the scenes was like, he'll love it. Jerry will absolutely do it. Yeah. Like at first, he's probably, I don't want to interrupt. I don't want to. No, no, no. Jerry, this, he wants this. This is going to be great.

So he did interrupt. And I take you now to when Jerry is going to walk, he wants to walk off the podium to go meet Clinton. I think you're influenced by, I am. Look at this right here. Yes, sir, Mr. President. I'm negotiating a draft. There you go. Go ahead.

I've always wanted to be. What a. Okay, so audio medium guy, I, did Bill Clinton try to get up there and fall down? It turns out, I don't know if you had the video, but Machota video did it. That was Jerry almost falling off of the podium. Could you imagine?

Crashes into Bill. If Jerry Jones fell off of that podium. Wrote it back for me. I intentionally avoided actually seeing the video. Whoa. It's Jerry. Will McClay's face. We're all laughing now.

Bill's face, too. That he made it. Yeah, that's exceptional. Good on Jerry. The sound sounded like something from a production studio. That was great. Okay. By the way, Super Country, come in this house.

Did you hear that? Oh, no. When Bill started to walk in. Hey, come in this house. So I wanted to, I wanted you to hear how he introduces Bill Clinton to everybody. Okay. We all know who Bill Clinton is. Or do we?

My draft. He moved up in the draft. He got a good. He's got contact. He's here somewhere. He's here somewhere. But let me tell you something. as a way of this guy was recently named the second most American

to have started with very little and have accomplished a lot. Look at it. It's important. There's a great story about him in Forbes. So, yeah, I looked this up, and apparently he's not kidding. There was an official ceremony, and he was given, it was a big medal. Yeah, what was it? They had to make it giant.

It was as big as a clock, like Flav of Flav. And it says on it, the second most American to have started with very little and have accomplished a lot. The second most American. Yeah. But despite all my searching, I could not find the first most American to have started with very little and have accomplished a lot. Could be Jerry. Rambo. It could have been Jerry.

That's, um, but yeah, when I was a kid. Congrats to the second most American. When I was a kid, it was a big selling point to me that Bill Clinton was poor. Like, that seemed to be the only one you would hear about. President wise. Yeah. It's just like, all right, this one. Yeah, he's kind of trashy, right?

His brother was real trashy. Which is why him and Jerry are tight. And, you know, we mentioned the disgraced financier, Jeffrey Epstein, and Jess. but there is a 100% chance that when those two guys are walking down the hall out there together, at some point Jerry's nudging him, like, I can't believe you ducked all that. How'd you get out of it?

Brandon's here. Oh, he is? I believe. Well, let's do this then. This segment of the Dumb Zone brought to you by Community Mechanical. The Community Mechanical.

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Back to the program. Great job on the community mechanical drop timing. That was impressive. Wow. Thanks, man. true pro. So what do you've been doing this week? Anything happen?

Yeah, nothing big. Just sitting around, relaxing, waiting for OTAs to start. Staying in shape. You're going to show up? Absolutely. It's all voluntary. Yeah. It's, you know, it's kind of voluntary.

Not for most of the veterans. They kind of slip in things on your contract where if you're not there, then you're going to lose some money. Oh, is this a new thing we learned? Yeah. Is there things in the contract that aren't put right on the front page of the paper or what? Well, I mean, that's standard cowboy stuff. So, yeah, that's in there.

I'm going to be at OTAs. I've been at OTAs every year. I've been to every single one of them except for one, which was a little planned vacation. But yeah, it's something where, I think it starts ramping you up for a season. It's something that's worth going to. It's right in my backyard, so it should be there.

And not a big deal to have it in the contracts. I plan to be there anyways. Is there anything in there, like you can't play soccer or you can't play basketball? Skied ATVs, that's what I was going to ask. For guaranteed money, he has to change that. The guaranteed language always has a carve-out for if you get injured doing something risky off the field, then your guarantees are void. not saying that you're not going to get that money

it's just no longer guaranteed that you do so yeah that's in there that's in just about all guarantees so I don't think there's any avoiding that I can't go well I could go skiing but if I get injured then take the guarantees off

so let's uh you already we already know your anti helicopter I'm just trying to think of like what it what is it that you might want to do that you couldn't do like I dad he's joining a street hockey league pick up game pick-up game of basketball, pickleball, that sort of stuff.

Or, like, you can probably still do it. You're just taking a risk there for a little bit of fun and a lot of downside there. Risk reward is not, it doesn't match up. Let me state something that I've always been scared to say because I was a, like you probably were, a big Tony Romo defender at one point in my life growing up here. It always seemed odd to me that he would play full court basketball in the offseason as a guy that seemed to get hurt quite a bit. Like, I can't remember the last time I saw Dak go run five.

Did he still play it after he was the starter? Yeah, man. Okay. Like, he was doing a lot, but your fan, you're like, I'm not really supposed to criticize this, but I feel. So it's more, it's not specifically outlined. It's just more vague, and they can use it how they want. I mean, it's vague, but they list examples in there,

and basketball's on there, skisings on there, mountain. climbing's on there or rock climbing's on there um bungee jumping uh that sort of stuff so i was surprised to see that but because i always thought yeah it was just vague and there's nothing explicitly in it but interesting no those things are um outlined and it says etc or like you know it's leaving room for other activities that aren't listed sure well we didn't uh for real congratulations new contract brandon aubrey is locked up um for at least a few years. More than anything, it's over.

It's over. It's a guaranteed deal. And when it was all first kind of coming out that they were going to give you that tender, second round, all that. So you'd be guaranteed at least a deal for this one year for, like, more money combined than, right, than you had made in your career combined. So that's pretty cool. But still, it was like a process.

And people were, it was negotiating in the media a little. bit. And I think you were somewhat amused at first by people that were like they had the wrong information. And then I know somewhat annoyed as well by some of the backlash to that wrong information. Can you, can we back up now and then just say, well, what what was the timeline to this? Like last year when it was alleged that they're, you're demanding 10 million and they're offering you this. Like what was actually happening back then? Yeah. So, back in September the Cowboys made the first offer. It was probably like week three or week four.

I can't remember the exact timing. And at that point they had said they want to come off the gate and make the offer respectable. They intend to make me the highest paid kicker. And the offer was just a hair above the current Bcker deal, APY. And it took a lot of learning on my end to figure out. out, you know, exactly how they calculate numbers on contracts. Because when I got that contract, and I tried to calculate API on it, it wasn't coming out to what they said it was. And, you know,

I was like, hold on. I don't really have time to focus on this in season. So we sent a counteroffer, which was not $10 million. I think we started around nine and just leaving room, obviously. then made the point that we don't really care about the numbers to start with. We want to work on the structure, the guarantee structure, the number of years, the language in there, the bonus structure, that sort of stuff. So we came back with that saying we want to focus on the details as opposed to the numbers to start with. And the Cowboys wanted to focus on the numbers instead of the details. So we couldn't really stomach going through those back and forth during the season.

So I said, hey, let's just wait until the season's over, then we'll talk about it. And so the Cowboys at that point had issued a second offer, which increased the numbers slightly and the details slightly towards the direction I wanted them to, but it didn't seem like we're going to make progress quickly. And if we weren't going to make progress quickly, I didn't want to deal with that and the stress of the season. So, yeah, offseason was the timeline for me, but the Cowboys viewed it as they sent out the last offer. So we're not going to reach back out to Brandon's team. And my team was like, well, they didn't really change any of the details. So we're not going to reach out to them.

And that went all the way through until about March-ish, like mid-March. And then I kind of was telling my agent, hey, this seems like a dead period for the Cowboys. let's be proactive and get this thing done. Let's try and get them back to the table. And as we were trying to get back to them, you know, I was pushing really hard during the Tinder window, which, yeah, you mentioned the Tinder. I probably thought out there.

They put the Tinder on me. It was February right after the, or it was March, right when the league year ended. So we had our one month period to go negotiate a contract with another team. and it was pretty apparent that no team wanted to give up a second round draft pick for the privilege of negotiating a contract that the Cowboys could just match. Okay, so at that time, is your agent calling other teams just to say, hey, would you? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, so they call their teams trying to figure out a market and, you know, we're trying to figure out what the price would be next year if I hit free agency. because it became clear, I guess, no team wanted to give up that second round draft pick. So they're having that conversation, those conversations, and I'm sitting there just waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. And obviously the Cowboys aren't going to come to the table until after that period. So then I push my agent, hey, let's just go start talking. But as we were getting ready to come to the table, the Cowboys came back and made another offer. and it was really close to what I had wanted.

And my agent was saying, you could probably get more than that. And you could definitely get a lot more if you waited until free agency, if you played out the tender. And then you get franchise tagged, you play that out. So there was the thought of doing that, but that seemed pretty stressful to me. So I just told him, hey, let's put together a counter with everything that we want. in it and let's see what they say and if they don't come back with something that's acceptable

we can you know go with your your plan of planning out the tinder and planning out a franchise tag but what they came back with was significantly improved they met the guarantee structures that we wanted they met the the salary that we wanted and the guaranteed numbers we wanted so that that offer was much much improved and they just kind of I feel like they were were ready to make a deal and they were done with it. So they came and said this was their best and final, and they went up to all of the acceptable thresholds we wanted. So we just accepted the deal.

That's interesting. So they actually, you wouldn't have a deal if you didn't instruct your people. Hey, call them. Like, I don't care that it's not our turn to call, right? Is it basically what it was? Yeah, you got to take your career. It's your career. you care the most. My agent's job is to get me the best possible contract and to his

professional opinion. And I agree with him the best way to get the best deal was to play out a tender and play out a franchise tag and then come to the table as a true free agent or get the second franchise tag, which would have been up near $8 million. So at that point, you'd have a lot of leverage. And that's what he wants to do. That would give me the best contract possible, but for me is more about getting it done, get the stress off of my mind, go back to live in a normal day-to-day life where I'm not thinking about this 24-7. And then priority number one was staying home in Dallas. And, you know, the other path led to constantly thinking about whether I would be in Dallas long term. Love the team and my family's here, so it makes perfect sense to stick around.

Yeah, so you've got to take initiative. If I didn't step in and push my side, we would be probably still waiting to hear back from the Cowboys. And then, you know, training camp is the timeline. We would probably be talking. And then who knows how genuine the conversations are at that point when the seasons go right around the corner. Like, clearly we know you want to stay here. And they know that. They know your whole story.

Yeah. And they walk me here to their point as well. So I think both are pretty happy. I know the fact that you have a cool story speaks to Jerry a lot too. It's not just any, you know, if you were from Pittsburgh, it wouldn't be as cool, right? Sure. The fact that you are a local kid and all that. I wonder hypothetically if you've gone through all these situations in your head.

If a team did, if they're sniffing around and you discover a team would give up a draft pick. Like, would you have signed that? Knowing the risk is the Cowboys might say, okay, I'll take the draft. pick and now you you're living in whatever wherever or have you ever have you played it that far would you maybe have said just use this for the leverage that you can against the boys so in in my brain it's you get the deal verbalized with the other team then you go to the cowboys and let them know what the deal is and see where they go from there if they match then we're happy if they don't match and they make a smaller offer,

then you either negotiate with them or sign the deal and force their hand. And then you're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place there. If they don't take that deal and you've got to go somewhere else, they're happy with the second round draft pick, I assume, for a kicker.

And then I'm somewhere else, which isn't what I would want, but you have a good contract, so I guess you could be happy there. So, yeah, that was a nerve-racking point. But it came clear pretty quickly that the second round pick was pretty steep for other teams. Man, I have so many questions because I just think this is like a life lesson playing out here. But I want to start with you said that you guys, you and your team started with the focus more on incentives and on the structure and on bonus as opposed to just dollars.

What was the reason for that, like philosophically? And what does that mean? I don't know. That's interesting to me. Yeah. So the original offer in season was a, the Cowboys were viewing it as a four-year extension on top of the tender and the current year. So it would have covered six league years.

And they would have guaranteed the end of last season, the tender year. And then from there, nothing else was guaranteed. The third year would be guaranteed once the third league year started, meaning it's not really guaranteed, because they cut me between season two and season three. That guarantee is gone. So that was the big sticking point for us, was getting that third year actually guaranteed.

And now after we played out that season, now that they're not going to, there's that year one, they're not guaranteeing because they like to say they only guarantee three years out. And by including the season we're playing in, they can say, or we're only going to two years out, which is really only a year and a half. Then so now the contract is viewed as a four-year extension with the tender year because we already had the tender in place. They're not going to shred that up and start over.

So that $5.76 million one-year contract is calculated into the contract and the extension part where you see it's reported as $7 million, four years, $28 million total, $7 million a year. That's over the extension, the life of the extension. That's considered new money. Yeah. Right. So still the whole contract is $33 million. And what I didn't understand is the salary for year one doesn't stay at the tender amount. They dropped it significantly in order to get the cap hit lower.

But sorry, I'm getting off. No, no, no. Actually, this is the type of show where this is where you should do this because I'm very interested in this. Yeah. Yeah. So they dropped the salary and pump up the signing bonus. So they're trying to get. You're getting the same amount, though, in that scenario.

Yes. So I'm still getting that five. So they just don't calculate that into the APY. Got it. But then they push that money around. Technically, they're pulling the way they view it is they pull it out of salary and put it into signing bonus. Yeah. And then so like I'm getting $10 million of cash flow year one where I would have gotten 5.76.

So that's where I view it as a win and, you know, signing bonus you get now. Another thing, another talking point about, you know, Cowboys do signing bonus 50-50, where you get 50% of it 15 business days after you sign, and then 50% of it's paid over the course of your year-one salary in equal increments. So we wanted to get obviously more of that up front. So that was another sticking point. but the biggest thing was

so now we're on a four year extension with the one year so it's a five year contract the one year that was already there so now they're guaranteeing year one year two and year three will become guaranteed if I'm on the roster

to start season two do you know what we call that the Zieg special that's the pop-up so gives them a little bit of wiggle room, but they're on the line for year two right off the bat.

So they're probably going to keep me around for year two. And then at that point, they'll be on the line for year three. So that's how we do that as an actual guarantee, where if that become guaranteed year year, then, you know, that's just kind of a team option. But we'll be reported as a guarantee.

And they'll like say, hey, we're giving them 20 million guarantee, but really it's 15. So we just want to to make that number a little bit more solid. And then Cowboys put all of their high paid players on active roster bonuses, which is a whatever the number is divided by 17. If you're not on the active roster for game week, you don't get paid that. And those are guaranteed on my contract as well for year one and two,

meaning if I am cut, I'll still get paid that. But if I'm injured and not on active roster, then I won't receive that sum. So those we view as fate guarantees, but still get reported as guarantees. So we wanted to get those numbers as low as possible or get them to take them out of the guarantees and put the guarantees into more salary. We couldn't get them to budge on that one, but that was another talking point we wanted. But we got the number down lower to an acceptable number. So now it's like $500,000 over two years. 250 a season in that number.

So really we view it as 19 and a half of actual guarantees and then 500 of fluff guarantees. But good enough for us. We were very happy with it. And then the last sticking point was the off-season training de-escalator, it's called, if you're not there for 87, I think, or 84% of OTA-D. days, then they can take a sum of money away from you. Ours is $250,000. So that one was less important to me, but more of a fight of precedent.

There's some guys that aren't right by training camp or aren't right by the facility year-round and want to train on their own, so they don't want to fly in and spend a lot of money to house themselves and be out of town and away from their family. So that's more of a precedent thing that they're fighting for for other guys. And it wasn't important to me, so I was willing to concede that one pretty quickly. Wow. Very, very interesting. Sounds like you could be a reunion rip.

Also. Well, you learn on the job. And when you have all this time thinking about why isn't this thing getting done, and then you dive into the details and, you know, kind of tell them, hey, that's not actually important to me. Let's not use that as a sticking point. We can concede that to get some ground elsewhere. And then once you kind of have all of your structure the way you want it to be, the numbers just they take care of themselves. It's such an easy thing to do with comparisons to, you know, historical contracts and kickers and market growth and all that stuff. So I thought it was pretty, the numbers is the easy part, I think.

It's wild because, you know, there's obviously a huge mental part of being a professional athlete. and then you ramp that up significantly when you're a specialist for sure. And that's the tricky part is that the job that requires the most confidence and the most just being locked in, they tend to be the most transient players in the league because you just move on small sample sizes. But you're able to get locked in over a long enough period of time and in advance to where you're sort of, you know, staving off overreaction. you know if if you have a bad you know month or whatever i don't know if that was in your mind but everybody you're you have a knob of risk and reward and risk and cash i guess and it seems like you really took care of your brain with this deal absolutely yeah i can just say it feels like a

weight or stress deep down inside me that was carrying with me 24-7 is is gone i feel happier I'm just hanging around the house. I don't feel like I have, you know, I normally I'm pretty patient, pretty long fuse to being upset. And I felt like that fuse was getting too short and just, you know, walking around the house, I'll just see the cat run by me and I was starting to get frustrated. Like, why is this freaking cat running by me? Okay. Way to get something changed.

Let's put it through the uprights. Yeah, exactly. So I'm just, I'm happier again. I feel like I got everything I wanted in the contract. And, you know, when we're starting this journey, kicking up a little field, if anyone ever said, you'll be the highest paid kicker in the NFL, in the history of the NFL, that I would have taken that and been over the moon. And that's the way I feel right now.

And I mean, my agent wanted to crush the market. And I feel like we checked that box too, because we got a $500,000 jump on a $6.5.5. I don't know the percentage off the top of my head, but it's bigger than usually the kicker market jumps like $200, $250,000 API. So I feel like we made a big jump, progress for the position as a whole, still lagging behind the growth of the salary cap percentage-wise, but felt like it was a big jump for the cowboys to stomach. And happy they did that when, you know, they had the leverage to not have to do that. Yeah, what is the seller cap percentage growth? I had this all mapped out at one point, but like over the past, like since Bucker signed his deal,

I think it grew like 20-something percent, and the kicker market hadn't grown at all. So I was like, take Bucker and multiply it by 20 percent. It came out to like $9 million. It came out to, and then if you looked at it percentage of cap for like, was it, when Tucker signed a long time ago, if you just take that percentage of the cap and then calculate what the percentage of the cap is now is like $8.something million, like $8.7 or something like that. So those were our sticking points for the initial offers.

And the point that I think got to $10 million publicly was Todd was running the numbers with salary cap growth at the end of being a free, when I would actually be a free agent. And he just in a memo wrote, So if you let or if you tag him or Tinder him, then tag him, then we get the free agency. It's going to cost you probably around $10 million in the open market. So that, I think, was leaked to somebody, and that started that whole storm. Again, fascinating. Leaking.

I've always thought that, you know, maybe it's just a general public. It would be hard to receive. But players should sell the idea that it's a percentage of the cap or agents. It sounds better. Like you're going to be underpaid in two years. I mean, I know that sounds weird, but you'll be some people will. Relative to. Yeah, relative to production.

That's fascinating. So I think I had missed in your whole story. It feels like, you know, everybody's done a Brandon Aubrey story and there'll be more. I didn't realize that your kicking coach went and played at Mississippi State. Yeah. But he wasn't there. He didn't line up with Dak, right? They must have just barely missed each other.

No, no, they were roommates. Okay. Okay, so 20, Dak must have been a freshman. Yeah, I don't remember the exact ages of them, but they were roommates for a year. Brian, Eagan, my kicking coach, wasn't ever the starter for the field goal reps,

but Doc would hold form and practice. And they were our best friends when I first met Eagan. Okay, I didn't know their backstory together. So did he just end up in the DFW? area because it's a place to coach? Yeah, so one-on-one kicking, the company that he's with, or he was with, he's now made his own company performance kicking academy. But one-on-one kicking was the coach that he worked with in Alabama.

And he came down to Dallas before the, before that got drafted here, to start the one-on-one kicking Dallas branch, just because it's a huge market. and they didn't have a rep down here. So he was kind of given the franchise rights for one-on-one kicking for Dallas. And he just came down here and started plugging away. It just happened that, you know, Dak got drafted here shortly after. Butterfly effect, man. I've got one more contract thing.

Is your agent negotiating with Stephen? Or Spaldon? Not really. Stephen and Adam Perviska is the cap guy, those two, those two guys. I don't know how much of each he talks to, but I know those are the two names. Because just observing their contract situation at the radio station, it was weird. The guys that they are negotiating with are passing them in the hall. And if you're at OTAs and they're like, I don't know, were you able to separate the personality?

from the business or were you kind of picturing Stephen on your cat and kicking it? Oh gosh, yeah. So it's pretty easy to separate in the facility. The football operations, like the coaches and players are all on one side. And then the staff's on the other side separated by the cafeteria. So the cafeteria is kind of the only place that you would interact with them. And it just works out with a shoddy schedule that we're eating lunch around 2 o'clock. block. So we're not really seeing any of the other side at that time. And in the offseason,

when most of this conversation was going on, I'm not even really going into the facility except for, you know, in March I started going in on Mondays just to kick. So the stress was not just you, right? Yeah, I'm just making a Jen on Instagram and having to jump into the fray. Yeah, it bleeds over into just about everyone. Don't let a pregnant wife go on Instagram to fight your battles. That's what I always say. Oh, I had to rein her in.

She wanted to go on every post and tell them exactly why they're wrong and all that. No, but you guys threaded the needle, and that's very hard to do. You know, Dan's a guy who will chill out. I'm like the Kool-Aid man who will bust through the wall, but offering a measured public response to, as you said, like release the pressure a little bit. It's a master class. I have to ask, given the way,

way you're talking. Have you been just living on over thecap.com? I spent a lot of time on Spotrack. Spotrack. I know their competitor. But yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out exactly how these numbers work. I was seeing Bucker 6.5 or 6.4 APY. And then I go look at his contract. I'm like, wait, this comes out to like 6.1. And I didn't realize that, you know, the years that were left on the contract before signing the extension weren't used in the calculation. So, like it took me a while to figure out exactly what they were doing and actually you know I called my my agency has a cap guy I called him and had buckers contract and cayami a new contract in front of me and like what is going on here this is this and this and this and every way which way

I try to calculate it on my phone it doesn't work so he he walked me through it and then had the big reveal that you know we're not counting the old years that were already negotiated in the calculation. Did that feel like your old IT days, not to be like, not to be shorter for what you did, but. Yeah, I did. I've got like six Excel spreadsheets

or, yeah, sheets going with, you know, different structures that I would have accepted. So I cut a year off and what's it look like? Take a guaranteed year out of there. What does it look like? Flip, flip this number into signing bonus. So I was

deep down in the weeds and I was doing that probably like 1 to 2 a.m. That's incredible. I'm not sleeping. I got to get up and figure this thing out. Is the signing bonus an actual check? Is it big? Yeah, is it giant or is it just a computer transaction? 15 business days will be May 11th.

I'll let you know then. I'm hoping it doesn't just pop into my bank account direct deposit. Maybe I'll have to go ask someone at the Cowboys to give me a physical check. You should definitely do that. Give me one of them big ones. When you call the bank, thank you. When you call the bank, if you ever have to, do you have, like, a different banker you talk to? Do you know what I mean?

Like, there's no way you call. He's going to. Right, okay. They're not going to just go to the teller. Okay. No, I, but you know what I mean? Like, if there's a charge on your account or something, a kid, the daycare charges you twice, right? And you have to do this call still.

There's a special number that he gets to call. That's kind of what I was going to ask, because you know, you can end up with some cowboy fan. Yeah, I don't know. I just walked in to the branch and talk to the people. It's worked so far. Just start turning shit over, just tearing a place apart. To man to see your boss. Taking footballs through the windows.

How much does an agent make in the NFL? 10%, 5% is standard. 8? 3. 3%. 3%. 3% standard, you can negotiate lower. But 3 is the most they're allowed to have.

and they all, all the good ones just say, hey, I'm 3% or I'm not doing it. Okay. The day you signed the deal. So you know it's going to happen? Like, did you go to bed the night before and you know, okay, we're doing this tomorrow? How does that work? So Friday, the previous week, I guess it was Thursday, the previous week, we got the offer. It was Friday.

It was one of the days the previous week. We got the offer notice from. the agent and he read it out to us and I listed out what I was willing to accept. He said, this is a good call. The Cowboys sent a counter that meets all of your criteria. We're going to try to get a few things changed on it with the counter. And we're going to send that out today. So this was Thursday.

And then we waited Friday to hear back from them, didn't hear back. So my agent at Friday said, hey, if we don't hear back from them or they don't change anything, then we're going to accept their. previous offer but you know they were talking about the languages or the language in the contract to get it closed and then yeah so I was in on Monday like I had been for the past four or five weeks kicking and hoping you know we're here already it's kind of a drive for us hopefully we can get it done while we're here and it just so happens that I got the call from the agent while walls on the field kicking and he said hey it's done just got a

review it. We made one small change to the language and we're going to review what they send back for accuracy and then you can go up there and sign it. Okay. But you couldn't find your do do two-factor authentication and... Do you just pun a ball in celebration?

No, I was actually in the middle of the set with Brian on the field and Jen and Colton were there So just finished the set. Janet Colton are there. Why? He was calling his shot. Huh?

Yeah. They're always there. They go to the star with you? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Just in the off season. It's like once OTAs start, that'll stop. Time spent together.

We go in on days where there's really no one in the facility on the football side. So we have the whole place to ourselves and they're not getting in anyone's way. We wouldn't do that during a captain's practice or if there's a bunch of people in the locker room getting treatment or whatever. So we make sure it's cleared out and then we go in. Okay. But so they're there and you kind of know this deals in the air. It could. Because I heard you had your phone hooked up to a Bluetooth or something.

Yeah, I had it over the speaker system in there. And then, you know, it stops and it starts ringing. Obviously, the phone's on loud so we don't miss anything. And yeah, I'm pretty much the back of my steps lining up my kick when the phone starts ringing. And I played it cool, just kept going. Yeah. Whatever. Used it as practice.

Just a couple of mill here. That's the perfect distraction. It's harder to kick, I think, when you're kind of on a high of emotions than I guess on a low. Because it's really hard to focus and control your body and your mind when you're, joyful. So Jen's running over there. She grabs the phone and she's like, it's Todd.

And so there we go. Having the call. Did you make that kick? Of course. All right. Is that a question. Do you get first class seats? First class seats?

I don't know. I didn't ask for that. That would be a material. Yeah, Blake. Some sort of material value. You've heard of the salary cap? I don't know. We read about athletes getting stuff.

Brugnan Adore got a horse. That is true. I don't know if I'm old enough yet to get first class or have enough years of service, put it that way. We'll see. Yeah, you could have done some sort of bit. You're right. I mean, I don't know that it's a bit. Russell O'Coon, it was kind of just a marketing thing, just being paid in Bitcoin, right?

Because you're technically still just being paid the cash value of, yeah. You should get a clause that you don't have to go to dinner with Shadi. That's a free meal and your conversation. with a football genius that is free meal I know I'm messing around good vibes

uh no but speaking of uh you know doing your steps and continuing and uh let me just set this up by saying brandon Aubrey is like the nicest guy I've ever met a very nice guy

and he says yes to a lot and I want to let you know that now and like let me do a Tony Romo analogy Tony Romo came out to summer bash with us when he was a backup quarterback. He sat there for like an hour, two hours. Yeah. But he said yes.

That's when he was a backup quarterback. He wasn't making a lot of money. Then he signed a $100 million deal. And we never had Tony Romo on the show again. Correct. So you're allowed to say no to things now. Now, not to us. Yeah.

I should give you this caveat. You must always say yes to us. But what you could say no to is that we're going to show you a video. This was on the Cowboys put this out. Aubrey, does he have enough? This is Brandon Aubrey in a meeting room, I'm guessing, at the star. Is this where you're going to sign your contract? I had already signed it at this point.

That was such give up. Well, you don't want to get hurt. That's a golden leg. There's not enough room there for me to do my steps. But the social media team asked, and at this point I'm saying yes to everything they want. And I thought it would be a decent idea. Yeah, I agree. I thought it's hilarious, but you're allowed to say, I don't know if I want to do that, but you say yes to a lot.

Not in that moment. Not in that moment. Yeah, it's a good time. So what has it been like? You said it was a whirlwind week for you. Yeah. Nice part is not much has changed day to day. Still just going about a normal day, hanging out with the family and just doing the garbage out and stuff.

Still got to change diapers. Recycle bins. Still got to be taken out. Right now we're actually, you know, my office got turned into a play pen. Now we're turning the playpen room into a nursery for baby number two. And the playroom got shifted out into the living room. And they're in, it's occupied right now with toys and Colton run around like crazy. So that's why my office and my office chair are now in the bedroom.

Do you think that right now, and we have a. an idea of where you live. Like, it's not anything super nice, right? It's, it's, it's, it's, we're doing okay. But right now, as far as money owed to you, your value, are you living worse than any other human being with that much money or more on the planet? Did you see Justin Jefferson on, uh, wide receivers? No, I did not. I've seen quarterbacks, but I didn't see wide receivers. Is he living? He was living in a tiny home, but then with like, really old furnishings and not a lot going on. And then he pulls out like some really old cabinet drawer and he's got like two million dollars worth of gold chains.

Yeah, that's where his money goes. I thought that was pretty cool. He's living well, well within his means. But no, I mean, our house is in great shape. It's in a fantastic neighborhood. It's just a little small for us. We got to keep making changes to it, you know, accommodating. kids when they come into the world.

I'm sorry about Jake. I think your house is nice. Listen, I'm just saying there's a small, there's, it's, he'll be the, I'm sure he'll be the same person. He's, uh, you know, mental stalwart here. But his life is about to change in a way that none of us will ever experience,

right, from one thing to another. I don't know, will it? It's still the same thing. I don't know if it'll change that much. I mean, he's, yeah, I guess if you, I guess it changes if you grew up, right? Like, he didn't grow, up broke, right? That's what I always say about my family is, you know, I was never going to, if

things got really bad, I could always, my parents were, they would let me crash there. They would let me, you know, if you grew up with nothing, nothing, and then you hit it, I guess that's when you you over splurge. Yeah, and your life really, really changes. Have you splurged on anything since the new clubs? Um, we bought a lot of land. We closed on it on Friday. Nice. Graduation. That'll be a splurge when we build. Jen's got expensive tastes, and it's a high-quality builder, and seems like prices of materials just keep going up, so that'll be the big expense. I want to get gin something nice, not sure what that is.

And, you know, I say she's got expensive taste, but she doesn't have a whole lot of things. It's just when she picks something, it's going to be nice, and she takes care of them, so you should get her nice stuff. well you got a probably got a new HVAC system all lined up from community mechanical right no I mean for your new house oh yeah I would imagine community mechanical will be involved to make sure constantly running with the variable speeds he he walked Travis walked me through exactly how awesome it's going to be okay remember the details right no you were a little busy. Well, congrats, man. Congrats to your family. You know, your parents, your brother. People

drove you around. This is a cool moment, man. Thank you. Yeah, it's been awesome. And hearing from a lot of people that have been impactful in my life throughout the whole entirety of the life is pretty cool. It's like 300, 400 people reaching out. Hey, let me reach out. I've been impactful. Do you think you could, uh... Maybe if you put a dollar on that impact. Yeah. I guess you wouldn't be. I'm lucky in that regard. I don't have a whole lot of people reaching out asking for stuff, so I can hold on to my cash. All right. Well, good times. Maybe we'll see you out at the summer event. Maybe we'll talk to you before the summer event. I don't know.

Is it the sixth? When's Jen due? Yeah, the sixth of June. 18th of June. So I'll probably be there. I'm not sure if she will. She likes to go to live events, so I'm sure she'll tough it out and get out there. Hopefully it's not too hot. Okay. Has she stopped drinking yet? You're supposed to stop at some point before giving birth. Yeah.

Before giving birth. Like a month before you go stop drinking. All right. Brandon Aubrey, everybody. There you go. Good times. It's a great Brandon Aubrey. Thanks, man.

Thanks for having you guys. There he goes. That was good. Good little visit. That was, man. So happy for him. Trident is our next live read of the day. He's going to need a garage door.

Why wouldn't? I'll bet you he needs a gate. Ooh. With the new estate that Brandon Aubrey will be able to afford? He'll get a gate that looks like the logo on Blake's hat that's an upright. It'll just be a trident makes it upright that opens to his estate. Oh, that's a good idea. Dream big at TX trident.com.

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If your door's sticking, if it becomes noisy, the rain, the cold weather, we're getting into the heat. You want to make sure you're prepared for all of the, uh, all the Texas weather at TXTritant.com, your garage door, your gates, 817, 5121212. It is Texas, or excuse me, it is Trident Access Services, TX Trident.com. So off the air, the dogs have been shaved. Do we see a second dog? Okay, there is one. Okay, I just want to make sure she returned both dogs.

They just, sometimes they just let them in? Yes, sometimes they give you, they only give you back one dog. They like my dog so much. How are dog doors doing? I know someone with one. I'm trying to think who it was. I was just recently at their house. Is there an older home?

But I think they're still a line. You do? Yeah. I haven't seen one in a while. No. The tech on them is getting pretty advanced. Really? Yeah, they have them were like...

That's what Trident has done. It's got a call, like in the collar has a sensor to where it only opens for your dog. So like a raccoon can't get in. Yeah. Interesting. put the collar on the raccoon retinal scan on the dog do we continue

Cowboys audio let me just give you a little more cowboy audio we might save all the George picking stuff we could do that we could also do like a viewer mail and a viewer mail junior tomorrow yeah but I want to give you just a little more cowboy audio just some of the

we did the Bill Clinton stopping by I just wanted to give you that tonight is draft night, and I'm just not sure what it all means. Like first round, like, what is this? There's a round, there's more rounds later, like second and third round. And where can you get good players, though? Like, do I, is that Sunday? Oh, here's Stephen Jones.

You know, in the first round is where a tremendous amount of the draft value is in terms of how people value their draft charts. So when you got an extra one, then that's even more value that you have in this particular draft. That enables you to do more. And especially if you move those picks back, then you ultimately end up having more picks, and then those picks are subject to trade and on and on and on. Now, going up obviously shrinks that in terms of the value because it's expensive to move. move up in the first round.

And it takes a lot of your later picks to make those moves. Okay. It's economics, baby. Well, there you are. Little 101 for the draft. I know what he means. I know what he thinks he means that he thinks is smart. Like that the idea that the first round is heavily weighted.

Yeah. Nobody told the guy from draft day. We'll get to that later. Do you want to learn about AI? Well, first of all. chain com. We have AI comedy. No. Why do we have any comedy? What are we doing after the cold open was just a setup, huh? We want guys that believe in a brotherhood and connection, and they want, they love football.

Oh, wait. No, I'm sorry. I like that, though. I like that a lot. I'm going to end with that one. We want AI comedy. Sorry. And then for Steve and Will, a couple days ago, John Lynch mentioned that NFL teams that are not using AI are falling behind in the draft process. I was curious what that looks like for you all and if you are using it, how it's changed your process. I was prepared for that question because I used AI and it told

me what you were going to ask. Well said. AI. Well said, my friend. Couldn't have knocked that, set him up and knocked him down any cleaner. Stephen, though, what does AI mean? It's certainly

very interesting. tool that can really be of help and can do a lot of things that would normally take a lot of man hours to be searching whether it's your mock drafts and they go in and do all the homework and obviously you guys probably have a better feel for what the cowboys are going to do than a media person in San Francisco or a media person in Chicago. So, you know, it's just amazing what these things can do. Obviously, John Park's a big part of our draft. and they're very familiar with it and the tools. And then you have to also count on really young people,

like my son and Shabot and Paxton. It's amazing what they know about AI. They're way ahead of me in terms of me keeping up. Yeah, I hope so. I just love talking to my mom about AI. That's what you just had right there. Apparently this is a thing. I just asked the kids.

Apparently this is becoming a thing. I don't hire someone. I asked my kid. Yeah. Stephen basically said, yeah, we have an Asian guy that does it. Yeah. Somebody that they met at Arkansas. There's a couple things there.

One, they're calling Spalding Shibo. His name is Shai. Shibow. Listen to it again. Okay. Shabbo. That is his country. So we're counting on Shibo, though, to do the AI.

Now, you know, I'd rather him than Stephen, right? but, man, I don't know. I think the thing is that they probably are using it just like everyone else. To undress women. I just don't need him talking about it. What would she look like? Oh, my God. Right, right.

Rich did it all wrong. Now we got AI. But is there something. We don't have to actually have their picture. I've heard from some friends that parents using like chat GPT is becoming a problem. in the same way that like when they first found Facebook or when they first found whatever and they're not ready I'm not ready for it I have I can't get into this yet but I did a little console with our friend Matt Brunig on how to code via AI and I feel like

I'm crossing over a Rubicon with like a moral moment where I don't want to talk to it like a person but you're very, very inclined to do so. It's like waving at the Waymo. It really is. Yeah, you want to say thanks. And it's asking like, what if I got into your calendar and just kind of helped you sort everything out, but I got into all your stuff.

I'm like, ugh. But no, I don't think Stephen's doing that. I think he thinks Will McLeigh could go do 30 minutes right now. I'll end you with a bingo from Shoddy. We want guys that believe in a brotherhood and connection, and they love football. All those things are really important to us. Does it mean that every one of them is going to be a choir boy?

No. You know what's funny is that from a historical trope standpoint, the main thing I know about choir boys is getting assaulted, not really doing. Well, but they're the good one, though. They're not the assauteur. Yeah. Choir boys, they're just sitting there all cute.

That reminds me. Speaking of cute, we have a sit-in today. We have Brad. We haven't even mentioned him. We haven't said hello to Brad. Brad. Brad Buckles. What's your bit?

I don't really have a bit. Long-time listener. Listen to you guys on the ticket, bad radio, hang zone. And then now you guys are here. I love this format much better than radio, to be honest. I listen to you guys exclusively. I don't even listen to the ticket anymore. Do you mind the days we do commercials?

You know what? I love all the commercials you guys do. I actually wish you would do more commercials. Have you ever heard of foreign direct me? You came to the right place. I feel like I'm speaking for the people who are on the dumb zone YouTube, dumb zone Reddit right now. Because if you have gone back to the ticket or any other radio station, they'll do more commercials in one break than we'll do all day. That's true.

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want to take a break. You know what? Oh, you want to do it for your mail? No. Go for it. Huh? Your instinct was right. I thought you were about to go to break.

Oh, okay. Well, I do want to just remind people then. If we're going to go to break, before we go to break, we are doing a draft tonight. Are you familiar with that? We will be doing the draft. I'm very familiar with that. It is the NFL draft. Very excited.

And many years ago, I was a professional. by Norm Hitchkis, who had told me he was thinking of retiring soon, and he wanted to make sure that when he did retire, that the tradition carried on of the name game. Are you familiar with Norm Hitchkis in the name game? Yes. And what he does for the NFL draft. So I thought right before break,

I could bring to you the 2026 NFL draft fake name game. Let me make sure I'm recording. Okay. I'm going. I'm going. Okay. The recording's still going. Good.

Wow. Okay. Did I invent it or did Norm? Who knows? So let me tell you guys about the name, you know, it's the names of the people that are in the draft tonight. And I would like to tell you that in the 2026 NFL draft, you could get a barber, a gardener, a farmer, a farmer, or a hunter. Grab a pavia, a percy, or a prunty. You could bring Mr. Rogers to.

your neighborhood. DJ Rogers, the tight end from TCU. If you'd like to travel, then there are plenty of options to choose from over the next three days. Hearst, Allen, Austin, Durant, Cleveland, Boston, Maryland, or Canada. Editor's note, I was going to use Durant with Curry and Wade for a basketball-themed line, but then I saw Jennings Dunker on my big board, and I thought, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's just too good.

It's easy to fall in love with Jeremiah. He's a first rounder. Don't forget the rice, Cam Rice from Maryland. If this weekend stresses you out, maybe you'll need to take a cruise. Enrique Cruz, Kansas, offensive tackle. In this year's NFL draft, there are three browns, two greens, two whites, a silver, a red, a black, and an orange. And this orange man is not bad. Rough.

Dominique Orange from Iowa State is a day two pick on my big board. Ruff! If you have a syndrome that prevents you from drafting anyone who is not a Buckeye, then just take Caleb Downs. Get it? You have a syndrome? Let's keep shooting Frito. Maybe you want a guy who will inflict some pain, like VJ Payne from Kansas State.

Or maybe you want a guy who will talk smack, like Trey Smack from Florida. or maybe you just want a guy. T.J. Guy, edge rusher, Michigan. If you like music, you could draft a Beck. But this Beck's no loser. Carson Beck, quarterback, Miami. Some teams just need to add some height or put on some pounds. Well, you could do both with Ramello height and Diego Pounds.

This question certainly is rhetorical. But do you miss Regis and Kelly? Well, let's get them back. together on your defense with Albert Regis and Jack Kelly. Every year we do the obligatory penis euphemism, so I'll tell you there are four Johnsons and a Dixon. I've read a book, so I know it's the most popular name in the world, but there's only one Muhammad in this draft. Hey, Jake, we found Pond Guy, DeAngelo Ponds from Indiana.

Oh, nice. I believe I will put on this headset again, as I tell you that there's a player in this draft named Castellanos. If you party with clavicular, you may need to pull Trigg. Michael Trigg, Baylor. Choose a Biber, a Brailsford, or a Brockermeyer. A Caddus, a Keenan, or a Klubnik. Usually, if you want to go fast, you would avoid picking a lemon.

But Mackay Lemon is the USC wide receiver. Sure, fire first rounder on my big board. Make him an offer he can't refuse. You could pick Don Corp. Dante Corleone is an offensive lineman from Cincinnati. Unlock some talent with Dane Key from Nebraska or get a pick at the right price with Judarian Price from Notre Dame. And finally, Frito, in the 2026 NFL draft, there's an AJ, an RJ, a VJ, three CJs, four DJs, four DJs, and five TJ's, but just like every day in my house since Mary said I do, there are no BJ.

San Francisco NFL drag. Because he's married. Well done. The dums are dumbs are. Good evening and welcome to the first and maybe only racial draft here in New York City. Folks, this is for all the marbles.

What happens here will state the racial standing of these Americans once and for all. That's right. And the crowd is here to say, support their races. Well, Rob, some of the biggest names in sports and in entertainment are on the line tonight, and I'm excited to see who's going to be drafted

by which race. Seated behind me on the stage there of the various representatives, and believe it or not, the blacks have actually won the first pick. Wow, that's the first lottery of black persons won in a long time, Bill. I'm asking, I'll probably still complain. Man, fuck you. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. Next Tuesday we'll be doing the show a little later in the day.

I believe 2.30 to 5.30 at Riders Field and Friscoe, because it's the pregame show for Jake throwing out the first pitch before the Texas Tech Oklahoma game. That begins at 6.30. So I would guess your first pitch will be around 6.24. Oh, you know exactly? Yeah. That's their thing, 624. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, we'll be out there doing our show. We'll be cheering Jake on.

Come on, little buddy, little team manager gets a handoff at the end of the game, at the end of the season. That's 100% what it is. But we'll cheer you on. Speaking of that in a roundabout way, I'm doing a volunteer bit with some listeners this weekend. We have a few spots. It's baseball for special needs. So come on out and have some fun. There's like five spots available left.

I got like 15 people signed up. Baseball or softball? Don't know, honestly. I think it says baseball. Interesting. I think all of it's interesting. And it's something that I was around when I was a kid and I wanted my kids to volunteer. Whatever.

The point is, if you want to do it, we still have a few spots. Soroy's friend, Ben. Austin, Ben, Airbnb Ben, the legend himself, will be there. A lot of people signed up. Awesome. Yeah, hit me up. It's Sunday from like one to three and then you can... How do people hit you up?

I think probably Jake at No Puppet Productions.com or J.Kemp 88 at gmail.com. I just assume people figure it out. Okay. But, yeah, good times. We have a couple of things we have to do real quick before you or mail. All right. Well, one of them is mentioned. Qualis roofing.

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So they'll give you a free roof inspection and they'll just give you a t-shirt. So if you just want to run the ball, establish the run and get a nice free t-shirt, just call for a free roof inspection and possibly you end up getting a roof with nothing out of pocket except for the deductible on your insurance, which is what we did. So we hadn't had our roof looked at in many years. Qualis came out. They're like, yeah, tons of damage up here. You know, all the hailstorms and whatnot.

So check out Qualis roofing, one of our OG advertisers. A couple quick things on the sports front. We're getting more information on the Mike Vrable, Diana Rusini, situation. Very interested. So the story this morning was that Vrable would miss Saturday in the NFL draft. He would miss the third round. or excuse me, the third round on to attend counseling. I don't know if they're saying that he has a sex addiction.

I don't know if they're just saying that his life is out of control. I was talking to the guys here in the break. Just saying, hey, I got to go to counseling. First of all, it's very funny that it's on a day and that it's the day where the picks are less important. Like, at least Tiger, when they ask him about it, he's like, I'm leaving the country now. Like, you were talking about that Ibogaine thing,

the Trump-Rogan psychedelic medicine thing. The listener we have that took that was speculating to me. He's like, you know, when you see somebody leaving the country, with Vrable, they're like, we're going to wait until we get to the depth portion of the draft, and then he's going to go to counseling. So I don't know, like if you're having any. Like this, is that a negotiation with his wife? Like, to save this marriage, you need to do something.

Okay, I'll do it. Yeah. I can't do it. Round one. I can't. I guess you don't care about this. And then they negotiate back and forth to, I do care enough to miss day three. Well, it's funny, nonetheless.

I think anybody could use some time to go work on themselves. Regardless, that's what makes it a funny bailout. And I'm not, you know, I did this. So I'm trying to position it as like, it's not a get out of jail free card, especially since now page six has more photos. And these photos are from six years ago in 2020. Oh. When they were both married, it was a year before her son was born, whose name is Michael.

Really? Yeah. That's delicious. Pretty common name. Still, not in this day and age it isn't. In any case. What's her husband's name? Not Michael.

Yeah, like you don't name someone Jake or Dan or whatever unless the dad's name is that. So, yeah, there's more here. And there's also an article that somebody may have broken some laws in taking these photos. and selling them. Ooh. That's funny. Yeah. That's a hilarious side note.

Yeah. Like, okay, these are inadmissible in court. I guess they don't count. Like, try it. Rable telling his wife that. Actually, they broke laws taking these pictures, said these don't count. In Arizona, it's a crime to knowingly photograph another person when that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and that person is having, quote, sexual contact or is

without clothing. And several of the published photos, Vrable and Rossini are in a hot tub or with fingers interlocked. Even if those circumstances fall short of what's needed to show a criminal act, the photographs could still give rise to civil claims. I'd love to see Frabel take that to court. He may not, but she might. You think? I don't know.

Is there Aaron Andrews Engel here? She was getting spied on? Probably not because she's going to be viewed as a home. homewreck her. Oh, she's married to. I don't care. I mean, you know. Yeah. And then I didn't know. It is funny, though, to miss a day of the draft. Yeah. It's ridiculous. And then speaking of that, I just didn't know if you had any cowboy draft things you wanted to get off your chest at all. Me? No, I don't know. I don't know, you know, the players for the most part, except for what I've recently heard.

I think they should go defense. You never know. I want chaos. I want fun. I want a fun draft. I want trades. I want, you know. Well, I guess we can talk about the Pickens thing tomorrow, but it's not often that I'm, you know, shocked by the way in which they convey information in these sorts of press conferences.

And I was pretty shocked by how matter of fact they were about it. So I just would put out there, I wouldn't be shocked if they, If they take a receiver, if they take Jordan Tyson. They can't do that. They very well could. He's already pissed off. Well, if they do, we're basically signaling this is your replacement, you're a one-year player. Yeah.

And it would be the signal of just go ball out, dude. You're going to make a ton of money, which would be true. You're also going to be sharing a little more than you probably thought. Well, yeah, I guess that's the issue, yeah. And Shottie was asked about that, too, to the means. media's credit on, you know, do you, now he lied. Yeah. It's not a big deal.

But yeah, it is a big deal. But it was somewhat of a deal last year, too. They acquired George Pickens. You know he's now clearly the number two. He had never actually had a thousand yards season, right? And then all of a sudden, he wants to get one of these $30 million deals because he thinks he's that good. And then he did put together a great season because CD got hurt.

That helped a lot. Well, yeah. You know, but Shadi went into last season with the same thing. Here's a guy last year of his deal. It's a pervert year, but I got to keep him focused. And part of the offense enough, I got to get him the touches he needs or else he becomes the guy that we have read about in Pittsburgh. You know?

Yeah. That's why I think it's probably a good thing to just shut it down and say we're not talking. We're not, we're not, it's just over. I say that. I don't think they're going to pick a receiver, though. I'm hoping it's just a smokescreen to get people to trade up in front of them. That way a defender falls. You cannot fix the league's worst defense in forever with a receiver in the first round.

They are often, though, honest to a fault. Yeah. They don't do smoke screens. All right, well, you can call our next play here. Next play will be viewer mail brought to us by Ownwell. Own well. Oh, I actually have a. personal email from

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A column. Nice. All right. Speaking of that. Thank you. Thanks, man. LSP, man. I got another piece of snail mail.

Yeah, go ahead. Oh, here we go. Yeah, go ahead. And it is from the hottest name we have listening. Alexa. She might be the hottest woman in the history of the world. Her name is Alexa Silver, so it's a porn name. She is good looking.

She owns her own business. And you're like, oh, well, that's, pretty attractive too. What kind of business do you own? She owns a marijuana dispensary. Like, it all just keeps getting better. I know. Wait, what? What? What? Anyway, she says... You're a fan of positionless basketball.

Since Blake and Jake have been obsessed with the idea of comrags recently... I don't think obsessed is the right word at all. And how are they an idea? I thought I'd send the... The girl version, a cum sponge. I can't do the description justice, so here's the dripstick website. I think there's a, I think I might have put it in there for you, Clayton. I don't know, but it's a dripstick, clean-up sponge from Alexa.

And then, now, she didn't say that she mailed these to us, but here we got some dripsticks. So if you want to know how to clean up. I'll read from the website. drip stick, a.k.a. the cum sponge is the original after-sex sponge for absorbing excess cum. It's a super soft medical grade sponge that quickly soaks up gooey leftovers to a little bit. A. Drippy discomfort, not for your butt. Then it says, no more penguin waddle to the bathroom. That's in the website? No more, no more wet sheets. No more squishy undies.

The Penguin Waddle. Let me give you one more, too, because this is a very, very important. This is a follow-up on something we've been covering. I think, boy, I hope the picture's in there, Clayton. This is regarding Cafe Luca. Yeah, I put one in there, too. Pick one. So we have a Cafe Luca.

We talked about Cafe Luca being owned by Jason Garrett and said it has nothing to do with anything else. And then someone tells us, I think we read an email, right? Like, hey, dummies. It's named after Babe Lofenberg's kid who passed away a few years ago. Don't make fun of it. And his name was Luke. And then I did question that a little bit. Like, well, why is it called Luke?

It's L-U-C-C-A. But then I, whatever. The force field was up, and I moved on. And then Max emails us and says, hey, according to this tweet from Babe, on February 5th, he has nothing to do with Cafe Luca. The tweet says, Cafe Luca, there's Babe standing in front of Cafe Luca,

Babe Lofenberg, will be opening at the end of this month, but a clarification, I am not an owner or investor. It is not named after my son Luke. Luca is a city in Italy, but I'll be their best customer, can't wait. Okay. Get off our ass? Yeah. I'd like to check out whether or not he's been their best customer,

but... Also, I mean, I guess I'll take his word for it, but there must have been a common enough misconception. Heck, I mean, we did it that he had to go take that. Babe also has an all-time bad bit going on right now on Twitter. Oh, no. It's no, Dan, you're fine. It's not a good bit, but he's also a guy who was drafted to the NFL,

and he's a quarterback, so you're allowed to do some bad bits. What's he doing? Well, he didn't have to make it go 30 days long. Because each day, 30 days out from tonight's first round, he's been saying 30 more days I have as the highest drafted quarterback out of Indiana. Next day, 29 more days until I'm dethroned from being the highest drafted quarterback out of Indiana. 28 days, it's every single day, dude, we get it. Yeah, there are a lot of people who have their about me knob turned up higher than maybe we do.

But what are you going to do? I'm down to my last 24 hours I'm not sure how to handle this If I can Do we go to Butler Cabin and Augusta I put the crimson jacket on Mendoza For the last 43 years Look at the day

This has been uncharted waters I'm at a loss Even a hey I can't find the answer Look at him Joke joke joke joke Killing it All right so you You mentioning the alcoholic thing

Made me think of this email This is from Mark This is in reference to an April 7th episode This guy got sober in July of 2021 He said his daily routine was to drive to the liquor store at 10, sit outside until after the first person had gone in. Because he thought to himself, only a true alcoholic would be the first person in the store every day. Buy a bottle of vodka, 20 ounce Gatorade, neither of which I can drink to this day, he says. And that's an important note here, because this email is about triggers, which might be why Hillary lost, but is also a real thing.

It's not even just therapy speak. He said the Russian dude behind the counter would give me a little phone cup. I'd sit in my car, the parking space of the back. I'd pound it, fall asleep, just whatever. Pound vodka and Gatorade? Yeah. And just kind of like sort of blackout, go home when his wife's gone, like, whatever, just floating around. He said, I'd usually be wrapping up the bottle around the time that you guys would be starting the show.

He drank a whole bottle every day? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's probably a lot. Yeah. And he's like, right around the time I'd be nodding off, I would hear this. Who got Mr. Hatch? Not the guy with the best stats.

So usually we do it around 1230, 1235, 1240. And he said when we played this a couple weeks ago, his hands started shaking. He could like taste vodka in his mouth. He got like, his like my blood pressure started going up. He's like, I hadn't heard that song since I quit drinking. Wow. And he's like, and I used to just be walked up every day hearing the Mr. Hat song. So shout out on five years.

So we played again? Well, no, I mean, I imagine he knew it was coming that time. I set him all up there. I got a text from good listener, Justin, who said they can't even film Frisco King and Friscoe. Yeah. Said that yesterday. This is in the news a little bit. If you want to know.

They can't film it? They're not. Oh. This is about the text I sent to the group yesterday, too. Are you following? Do you have more, Blake? The crew will shoot in South Lake Town Square on Wednesday. And they're changing, apparently a Keller stadium has City of Keller on the scoreboard.

They're changing it City of Frisco. So high school football is going to be involved somehow. Yeah, no, of course it is. And they... I wonder why they aren't filming. up. Just use something up there. They have 100 different stadiums. I'm sure it's some they will.

They probably just had a history with it, but I swear to God, dude, I still feel as if I'm being punked. Have you read about the plot? No. Is this the Stallone one? No, Stallone is the Oklahoma one. What if Anthony Davis is behind this?

It's a spinoff. It's a spin-off, but it's a comedy. Yes, it is. The premise is a fish out of water comedy where Samuel L Jackson's character gives up his New Orleans roots to start fresh in a modern day Mayberry. The Stallone character tells him it needs to be Frisco.

San Francisco? No. Frisco, Texas. And here's your golf polo to fit in. It's like a... Like a... I don't even know. Like a Cedric the Entertainer's sitcom type thing?

A spinoff. The Sopranos is becoming comedy type thing. It's like... Yeah. I mean, like a... Sure. It's some serious show. Tulsa King is a serious show.

A spin-off of the wire is now... Yes, Omar is... Working as a clown? Wacky hijinks, him and his boyfriend. Just going through this and that. So weird. So weird. We might have to watch it.

I think that there's no doubt we have to watch it. Here's a good one from Adam. He has a WHO Went to Easter to see a buddy of mine Play organ at a Lutheran church in Arlington That is why WHL Lutherans Watching your buddy play the organ

On Easter Big organ day Hey good job man Sounded good So his WHL is that they offered communion And they had a gluten-free option That's awesome Look we're doing all this

Can't we just all agree that you'll be fine? I got a food-based W-H-L from Richard. Said, according to the New Yorker, the best Italian sandwich in all of New York City is the Vegittalian, an Italian sandwich with sweet potatoes instead of meat. Hillary just lost the Italian vote. This review made me vomit. I picture the woman.

who interviewed Sidney Sweeney as the food critic who wrote this nonsense. Sandwich aficionados will spend happy hours yelling at one another about the proper cold cuts for an Italian combo, debating with intensity and the relatively merits of the soprasata versus capicola or whether to include a layer of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But the veg Italian renders all of these arguments entirely moot by evoking the best parts of a meat-laden sandwich meatlessly. Yep. He's flipping Dade County. Tell you that. I got another one from Blake, a W-H-L. Recently talking about Price is Right, I turned it on the other day,

and now they have a 50-50 split with hot girls and hot guys. Oh, no. Like, so the prize... There's dudes and Barker's beauties now? Right. I don't think that's the end of the world. I think being attracted to dudes, if you're a dude, is actually way less gay than a lot of the stuff we're talking about.

So just throwing a little meat to the fellas doesn't bother me. You know what would bother me is if they had ugly people out there. Do you know what I mean? Like that's a more of societal decay to me. Sorry, go ahead. Well, he's got one more, but it deals with American gladiators. Are you pretty familiar with American gladiators? Sure, yeah.

It's been a minute, but I plan to tune back in. He said, I was all pumped to watch the new American gladiators you all spoke of. Then I see they don't have assault, which is by far the best event. My guess is that is where there's a guy up at almost like a Gatling gun type thing, shooting at you. He says, I can only imagine it's because the gun aspect, and if so, someone in Dade County just changed their... Yeah, sorry, I need new counties. But, yeah, dude, it rocked.

You'd be running... You know, the Gladiator would be up on a perch, and he would have this air-powered assault gun, and you'd have to try to run from spot to spot while they're shooting at you. I mean, it's very school shooter training now that I say it out loud. Aggie Kyle, my old shake joint board, oh. I just have one more WHL, unless you're still doing WHLs. No.

My close on the WHL. Sure. This is one from Carter, who said having to rebrand gay-not-gay into WHL is the top of the list on WHL. That's fair. Yeah, very. Aggie Kyle said he was listening to his talk, pedicures,

shoe shines. So I actually have one for my wife on this too. Kyle says I get pedicures every month. I recently put my feet in the hot water, turned on the massage chair,

lifted up my book. I felt someone touched my feet, lowered my book, little person. Oh, whoa. So to test our service... Is it better?

Well, let's just talk it through. Is it a little person? Is it a little Asian? Like, is it... I don't know that I've ever seen. Of course I've seen, I guess, an Asian little person dwarf, but... Yeah, because, like, the Guinness World...

The Guinness World Book of, whatever, that's the one I was thinking of. That's true, yeah. Off the top of my head, I was thinking mostly white and black. You got Pedro's, had a little friend, Pedro Martinez. Right. A little buddy. But if the... The premise here is, is...

I agree with Dan, the shoe shining thing, especially since it's... It seems like it's almost always an old black guy. It does feel weird. But for whatever reason, I don't feel weird about the pedicure. Now, part of that is because it's expensive. And you're giving them, you know, especially if you tip, dude, they're making decent money. But my wife was telling me yesterday, she went and got both pedicure and manicured done at the same time. And I was like, that feels way too, like, what are you, a horse?

Got her pap smear, all of it's going on. I mean, it's what it felt like. Right, they're doing. Her, uh, her tummy tuck. It likes a dipstick. Yeah, just cleaning the whole thing up. Yeah.

Derek says, look up Brooks on American Idol. Look that, do that. He said, is this Blake paying off a fantasy loss? He says there's a guy named Brooks. Just do images. Go Google images. Brooks American Idol. Apparently this guy looks a lot like that.

Blake. Oh, come on. You think? Is it a mustache? I think he does. He looks like a little boy, and Blake still has. That looks like you, doesn't it, Blake? Even Blake knows.

A little bit. Yeah. Yeah, they all look like if they needed somebody to fill in on gemstones. It's not out of the question. I got an email from Tyler. This is a picture. You can see Blake from American Idol there. That's absolutely Blake

Clay this one's from Tyler This is the drone one This is quick email So all this out about Hopefully they can deploy it While driving never punt It's DPD's drone You know you see the vehicle that says like

K9 unit Now they've got the Suburban that just says drone unit On the back Apparently there's a universal symbol for drone And I don't know I mean

I don't know if you learn the drone after? Is it like the motorcycle? Where you get into copping and then afterward you learn droning? Are they drafting like this guy's a drone? Yeah. Like is TC going to be Vic Mackey because of this? Right.

The future tough guys are going to look more like TC. Because they'll be able to buzz you. Yeah, because we're doing everything through the drone. I got one from Brian. D.F. Day 13. While I agree with Dan's statement about Linda Cardinelli being delicious, it would be nice if he actually pronounced her last name correctly. It's pronounced Cardalini.

Yeah, dude. Say it right. We're not going to be talking a lot, me and Linda. Here's from Harrison. I'm not going to read his whole email, but he's a younger cat, I gather. And he's asking the question, his girlfriend that he's been with for like six months, recently told him that she had a book club night. and he's he's asking the question like when does it switch from i want to see you all the time

you spend every one of your because he's at the point where he's like we've been spending every free night together and then she's got this he's like she got sick a few weeks ago and i was kind of happy but like when you first realize you're like uh i'd rather you not be here Yeah, because once you're married, you don't, there's just no free night. You're to assume that it's around the time you start to live together. Yeah. But if you're not living together yet, but you still are assuming that every night unless you have something that, like, can you just, you're going out with the boys? Like, when does it become, I have to alert her that I'm going out with the boys instead of like, we have to alert the boys that I might, you know.

Actually, tonight I'm going to go out with her. This is the anomaly. I just don't. That minefield navigating that. We're all very lucky. Lance Forehead has a good one. This is a schoolyard myth, fear. Were you guys way more concerned that you were going to have to deal with fire?

Just in general, your house catching on fire, like stop, drop and roll, being able to deal with smoke. Yes, I read that email and I felt the same way. You are really pounded with that information. I'm kind of surprised I didn't get abducted and that our house didn't burn down for all the prep you did on that, right? Right. Like I thought everybody gets kidnapped

by the time you're 12. And our house is still standing. But only if you don't die from all the gum that's been inside your stomach for nine and a half years. What about all that waste of time? Like weren't you upset the school never got hit by a tornado? Or were you guys doing gun drills? by then.

Mine was just tornado tornado drills where we'd all go in the hallway and sit on our knees and then put our hands over our heads as if this will help us survive.

I don't know. Maybe it will. Yeah, we eventually got to the shooter drills or the bomb threat drills, for sure. Was shooter drill a big part of your upbringing, Blake?

No. There's a little school. Yeah. Private school wasn't worried about that? No. With you there? We didn't.

Again, I was not tagged as a school shooter. I think you're off base. This might be a gummy thought. When did we hit the age where, like, the tornado drill just didn't matter anymore? Because, like, we're all in high school and we're too big to fit under the desk. Junior high, grade school for sure. Right. So they scare you the most.

Maybe it's concerned about the high school students as much. Like, we got to say. They could get out on the, that is really weird. weird. Really strange. All right. Well, that's what I got. I've got two more. One is a very run-the-ball guy thing from Ryan. Another is for me because something Brandon said has been, I've been thinking a lot about recently because you guys give me a hard time because my wife will sometimes drive me to dance house, drop me off, and then go visit her family that lives on this side of town. And I don't mind the drive in

the car with her because that's now an hour and a half of my day of of time spent together that I was not going to use anyway. Oh, yeah. So I view that as like riding off my marriage almost. No, no, there's something to do this. It was going to do anyway. Now I get to count it towards time spent with you that I don't have to do later. Him taking Jen and Colton to the kicking field, he was going to go kick anyway.

I almost said it. But now he can kill time with him. You got to just any time that a couple of these birds can die with just one stone. Yeah. Let's put a little. it's bundle. But you get to ride it off, basically. It's good, yeah.

Now, if you're showing up to then do a four-hour morning show with her, like Gene and Julie or whoever those people that we would always joke around about, but if it's just the ride... Yeah. This from Ryan. A while ago, I lined up in the Wishbone on First and Ten and bought Rabbit Ears for all of my TVs in my house. God.

He's trying to fight the kid attention span. He says, I have a three-year-old. When he gets home from daycare, we'll watch Arthur on PBS Kids. And then we'll watch Tom and Jerry on Me TV tunes. All hold up great, even the super racist episode. If the kid doesn't know any better, then he just thinks, yeah, this is how we watch TV. There's commercials in the middle. It's on every day at this time.

It's true. I love it. And then that kid will really appreciate it once he gets cable. I approve. Five years from now. The biggest problem, and I wouldn't trade anything, but. But you have to have like a tight circle of influence on your kids if you're going to try to implement something like that. Right.

Then they go to their friend's house or their cousin's house. Grandparents. Right. I got five sets of them. They're all very helpful. But they all have much more laissez-faire attitudes than the parents do. Yeah, I guess me as a parent, I had more problem with actually caring that so-and-so had more than my kid. Like my mom, I don't think cared.

I was like, yeah, well, we don't have cable. Yeah. It's like, yeah, but everybody else does. All right. Well, we don't. And that's why you have to steal it from the neighbor. The cable box outside has it. That's how you learn some early engineering, Blake.

Mom gets to know the cable guy. Run a splitter. Yeah, that's good. Oh, my dad used to watch the cable guy hook up the HBO on Cinemax and then had him back out to cancel it. and then when he left, he climbed up there and just redid it. That's how we had a free cable. And that's how I saw porn way too early.

And my last one is also a run-the-ball guy. Much like Blake's video games, chess players age out young these days. So Judith, remember Judith? The Queen. The Queen of Chess? Watch that documentary. Judith is the most established the run person in sports. She's now a commentator.

She hates the new computer moves that have been discovered with AI, and will admonish the kids these days for not knowing the Soviet school fundamentals. That's great. Just wanted you to know that establishing the run knows no borders. Always punt from Concussion Scott. This is an extremely half-baked gummy thought, but I was looking at Jason Robertson's Wikipedia page last night. As you'll do.

Because he's from California. And they moved to Michigan when he was 10. his brother's an HL player as well. But his mom's Filipino and his dad is a white. His dad was a big hockey fan. That's the sort of thing that if your wife walks by, she's going to be like, oh, that's interesting. What's that guy's deal?

Right? And this is probably racist, but it's also possibly respectful. My sample size is Jason Robertson and Tiger. But I feel like having a. somewhat submissive Asian wife is helpful if you're going to be an absolutely insane sports dad. Like behind every psychopath, there's like a lady who's like, I actually think this is good. And possibly a person with a different, maybe more Western approach to parenting might step in here and be like, this is a lot. But like Jason Robertson's family moved from California to Michigan when he was 10 and his brother's seven.

and I'm just imagining, you know, how do you know for sure? You don't. It gets you into that whole nature, nurture thing, and whatever. But I don't know, you've got to have a pretty down-ass wife to say we're moving to Kalamazoo with the fourth and first grader. I think he can play hockey. His brother, by the way, is like 5-8, 5-9. Robertson's big er, but it ain't like they were. There's something there.

He wasn't, the dad wasn't a pro athlete or so, yeah. The Ball Brothers mom is foreign. She's also an athlete, but yes. I guess I was specifically thinking in your head, you think of like Asian women as being like. St. Brown. Service. What's their name? Yeah.

Equiminius. Yeah, that mom seems a bit, well, she's pretty hardcore homeschool, right? I just wonder, and you see all these like hardcore baseball families and travel families and all that. It's just at some point I think the mom provides like this sensible. I think you might be working this kid a little bit too hard. But then again, I don't know that you want like, you know, Venus and Serena's mom, I think was kind of at odds with the dad. Their dad was crazy. Just like all these other ones.

But anyways, go stars. Yeah, one about Judith. I can't remember Judith's mom. Well, I just remember. That just made me, yeah. The dad was crazy and moving them all around. I imagine the mom was just kind of along for it. American women are preventing our athletes from becoming great, is what I'm saying.

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Which was filmed in Cleveland. Did you ever hear that story that my brother's bar was contacted by Kevin Costner's people? Because Kevin Costner has a band. Right. And he wants to play somewhere. And they had that back room and a stage. That's where we did the show. And I guess Kevin Costner, so they took over, like, my brother's brother's like, of course.

That would be the greatest thing ever. And so, yeah, Kevin Costner and his band came in there and played for a night and got pictures with everybody and all that kind of stuff. When they were filming draft day, I would guess this is the year 2013 or 12 because the movie came out in 2014. Yeah, and I guess I missed this at the time. I was part of bad radio, but I must have been doing something. else filling in elsewhere. I'd never seen this movie in full before. I was familiar with all the jokes that we would make on Why Today Doesn't Suck about all

the owner is going to get to New York in 30 minutes and this and that. But I'd never actually seen the movie. And I don't, I guess I'd never really considered where I hold Kevin Costner and the pantheon of actors of that time. But I've, I've always thought he was great, right? Just a standard generic, whatever, pop culture, superstar. he is so bad in this movie. It's like he's not trying.

Like, you know how you see, you'll see a movie that's terrible, but they got a famous person to be in it. You're like, at least they were pretty good in it. Kevin Costner is not dynamic in this movie at all. So if it was a passion project for him or something like that, you don't know it. It's pretty half-ass, to be honest with you.

That's the part that you thought would deliver. You knew the football stuff would be stupid. And it is, and we'll get into it. But even from just a movie, I was stunned when you said your wife liked this movie. Stunned. She mentioned it again last night. Different strokes. Yeah.

She liked the movie. She said it was a good chick flick because of the Kevin Costner, Jennifer Garner, I guess. Oh, you had to hate Jennifer Garner in this, didn't you? I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan in general, but that's probably more of a me thing. But the person that she plays in this movie is how I imagine she is in real life. Just whiny. Did you watch it play?

So I watched this on two-time speed and it was still too long. It's not good. I don't think I saw it when it came out. It's a Disney adaptation of what they think draft day is like. I'm amazed that some people think that all of this could have taken place in 15 hours. Yeah, the movie starts the day of the draft, the morning of the draft. The morning of the draft. Hey, look into Bo Callahan for me.

It's the morning of the draft. Yeah. Find something. What is that? So Seattle has the number one overall pick. Correct. Twelve hours before the draft, they're like, hey, what if we traded? Like, they had never thought of it until that point.

Well, that's not entirely true. I mean, okay, so I actually think as bad as Costner's acting is, if you wanted to look at this movie and just actually try to do like a serious analytical breakdown of it and the things that they're showing you the fact that we talked about this recently with the way that drafts are graded and the fact that the cowboys are the only team that should be able to beat this because they never have to worry about getting fired but the whole dynamic between the owner he knows his team sucks he wants to make a splash like how many GMs are they're

walking around who are fired that are like I didn't even want to draft that guy I'm not having any issue with that. Okay. I'm having an issue. You remember, though, Seattle first called Kevin Costner. They got the number one overall pick. And then 12 hours before the draft, they were like, let's look for some desperate teams. Like, oh, how about Cleveland?

They always will do some stupid stuff. So, yeah, they called, proposed a trade of, what, three number ones for, no, it was two number ones and something. and a third for the first overall pick. And Kevin Costner says no. Yeah, during the pancakes. Then Kevin Costner does talk to the owner who needs to meet him at the amusement park

to illustrate that I guess he says life is, something goes up and down. So he couldn't just say that. I have to stand next to a roller coaster and then illustrate that. Yeah, and I also kind of got the implication. At six in the morning, I think. Yeah, that guy may own the park, right,

to let you know, like everything. He owns everything. Here's a little bit of that. Just to be clear here, you're threatening to fire me, Ryan. Let's talk about the draft. What do we need? Let's talk about the draft. What do we need?

Again, it is... At 6 a.m. on draft day. It reminded me of this clip from an old Cowboys' Doc of Jerry when the cameras are rolling. Well, and, you know, we're bringing Karnard in Saturday. And he'll get in good shape, and he'll be a very good, legitimate... Tell me this. Tell me this. Who else is playing pretty good? What do we need? What do we need?

So anyway, yes. He's like, you got him. I need a splash maid. So then he calls back, the Browns GM. The Seattle GM, very smug now because he smells blood in the water. He's like, actually, that deal's not on the table anymore. I want three number ones. We all gasp. Kevin Costner, agreed. to that.

Three number ones because he's got to make a splash because his owner wants to make a splash. People don't come to the park to not get wet. Bo Callahan is like the consensus number one.

He's like Andrew Luck or something. You had heard about him for years. There's no doubt. Bo Callahan is the guy. Everybody already knows. But the Browns

at this point had not researched Bo Callahan at all. No. No, they had not. So that's where Kevin Costner comes. And he says, get me all you have on Bo Callahan,

to which Jennifer Garner later would walk in with three manila folders full of papers and say these are the scouting reports on Bo Callahan. Yeah, this is the day of the draft, Boyd. Until about 10 minutes ago, I don't think any of us thought this was possible. And I seriously doubt that we have looked at him the way we might have. That's my fault. All right, guys, that's on me. Now that's changed.

So if we go ahead with this, if we pick him and find out tomorrow that he has got knee problems. You already made the trade. Like, what are we talking about? Right, they made the trade. And they're like, oh, shit, we should figure out if this is a good idea or not. So even in the... This feels a little risky.

Even in the, yes, the time between when he was with the owner, man calling Seattle could have just said, you know what, let's do a half hour on him. Let's just do a quick... I was laughing so hard too. A quick rotowire.com search just to see if I should make this trade. When they do get to them, I'm always interested in... where they think they need to take liberties and where they don't. Like, for example, if you're going to make a fake quarterback,

don't make him go to Wisconsin. He could go anywhere. Don't send him to a school where we're all like, that probably wouldn't happen. Well, then the last highest drafted Wisconsin quarterback will be tweaked about it. But then also, I thought it was funny. You know, they have them in the meeting room watching film, and you'll see the all 22,

and then the film will cut to like a tight TV shot of Bo Callahan. It's like, well, I knew we were watching football. Why did you have to add that fake part? I started a list called Disney thinks this happens. And I don't know if Disney made it. It just feels like they did. The prospects calling the GMs, hey, you're going to take me tonight? Yeah.

That doesn't happen. I was confused. So there's a guy. Good kid. He's a first round pick. He's a projected first round pick. Wait, how do you know he's a good kid? He's taking care of his nephews.

So he's taking care of his two nephews, and he is calling the GM, like, hey, you're going to take me? You're going to take me? Like, I really need to go, you know, top seven. I don't know what that bullshit, weak-ass pick-15 money. I'm like, what are we doing? Right. Like, we're talking, this is not a guy who's either going to. Like, he's yelling at the GM.

Not only is he yelling at the GM, they're setting you up for the idea that this guy's life is over if he goes at 18 overall in the first round of the end. I won't be able to take care of these kids. Right. I need top seven money. Maybe something that people that work for Disney thinks happens is that an NFL player would have a phone holder that's just brass knuckles. Did you notice that? Yeah, real tough guy.

Hey, look, this guy's from the streets. I bet he holds his phone like a weapon. This quarterback started working out. He can throw the ball 15 yards further now. 15 yards. Right. So, yes. What did he go to space?

The problem is. How did you? The problem is, yes, the current quarterback that they have is a favorite of the coach. Now. And yes, and he said he had been rehabbing. And yes, he's faster than ever. He can now throw his 15 yards more than he could. Like, everything's so much better.

He's ready to go. And when that quarterback hears about the trade, he comes in and trashes the GM's office. Like, this is like Aaron Rogers. seeing Jordan Love drafted or whatever when Aaron Rogers got drafted, right, for the current quarterback, first of all, to be at the facility in April, and then to rip apart the quarterback's office, or excuse me, the GM's office. Of course, he ripped apart the GM's office. I think that was after Dennis Leary, the coach of the team,

walked into the GM's office with a burning piece of paper in his hand and just laid it on his desk. Someone had to run in with a fire extinguisher. Of course it's the capologist has the fire extinguisher. She burns that off. Strong woman. And, yes. Did you guys have a, whoa, moment?

Because I had one, and I've seen this movie before. Is it the kid? No, it's when we find out who Bo's agent is. Oh, he had some lube with him in this movie. It looked like that would be P. Diddy. Oh. Yeah, P. Diddy is Callahan's agent. You can catch that on double?

No, I caught Terry Cruz. Yeah, Terry Cruz, but Ditty's all over this thing. Yeah, Puff Daddy is Bo Calathens agent. Yeah, Dennis Leary is the coach, and... That's why he's split in the draft. Nails it as an asshole guy, but I thought they were implying that he's Barry here a little bit, because Dennis Leary came from Dallas. Yeah.

And he's going to tell you all about how they did it there. This is quick, but... Yeah, she's the best. Why am I here, Sonny? Because Melina thinks you coach the Cowboys. I did. you coach the Cowboys. And I think you were a bad babysitter.

I like that as a child of the 90s. Like this guy shows up thinking I did it. He's showing off his ring. They seem to be, I would say, referring to Barry Switzer then. Yeah. He came in and coach someone else's team. Just overall a great movie, right? I don't know.

It's insane. Well, he's 10 minutes before the draft. I think he's still learning stuff about the players. And he's up, he's like, in his office. and then all the other people with the Browns that are drafting are like, where is he? We're going to have to draft, and then you got Rich Eisen on the draft coverage going,

you know, you could pass on the pick. That's happened a couple of times, which is weird. It actually has. And you know that that made people who've never followed the draft before think, like, holy, that must be like a- That happens all the time.

They must run it down, which is stupid. People just pass all the time. So, yes, the owner, the half-hour thing. So the draft is in New York City. the war room in Cleveland, the owner doesn't know, because Kevin Costner doesn't draft Bo Callahan for a couple of reasons. One, the running back who is the potential, no, the defensive lineman who is the potential number seven pick,

told him, you got to watch the film. Watch after I sack him. Watch after I sack him. So they show, one play after one of the sat like Kevin Costner walks in the war room put up Bo Callahan highlights from that game against Ohio State or whatever. We already watched it. So they put up the highlight.

He gets sacked. The next play, it looked like Jake before he took pitching lesson. Like he drops back and he throws the ball basically in the ground because there was modest pressure. He shook. So, so anyway, they don't draft. Oh, and they found out Bo Callahan doesn't have friends on the team. Like, he had a birthday party, but none of the teammates went there. And he lied about it.

And then he lied about it. That's the worst of all. But he's still like the best talent since Peyton Manning. That's the way they're presenting this guy. And I say, you're looking past everything at that point. You're never looking at. You're not looking for, especially after you traded three number one. and all that.

You're not then going to start looking for a reason to not take bow. You're going to take bow, because everybody would take bow. So at the time, he doesn't pick Callahan. Now, the owner's pissed. The owner gets to Cleveland before the number five pick. Even this year, I think we're now eight minutes between picks. It used to be 10 minutes between picks. It would be 15.

But the owner, yes, somehow left the. the hall and got to Cleveland. As this is happening, my wife is like, I'm on the edge of my, like she said out loud, I'm in the edge of my seat. Like she's really excited. And I'm just realizing that this movie is not made for me or us. But I think at the end, yes,

then at the end, Kevin Costner somehow ends up working out a deal where Bo Callahan falls all the way to, what is it, the Brown's pick that they had traded one of the Browns picks they had traded, but this year's pick swap. And now Kevin Costner is like,

hey, I've been on the message boards and the blogs. He calls the Seattle GM. He goes, I know all the fans are pissed. And then now he not only wants his three number ones back, but Jennifer Garner, who just loves football, could easily name the punt returner for the Seattle team as well. And she wants him as well, and they end up getting the punt returner.

Turner. They get the three number ones back. But he had traded back into round one. He had traded to number six to Jacksonville. And he had sent three twos. So at the time, before trading with Seattle, he had sent his three ones and his three twos for picks one and six. Right.

And told him, I won't take Callahan, but I want my three ones back. He was wheeling and dealing. Right. So he ended up, yes, he ended up with, though. And it's the same thing with Jacksonville. So Jacksonville's on the clock. So it's ticking. There's 10 minutes.

Oh, he's a new GM. He's nervous. So it starts out. The worst GM in the world ever was Kevin Costner, but then by the end of it is actually he was the best GM. I just want you guys to keep that in mind tonight as we close up coverage. You know, you got to see the whole package before you can really grade a draft. I think that's the lesson of this movie.

You have to wait. I hated the things manufactured for the movie. The pregnancy thing at the end was stupid. The fact that they had to do the spreading of the urn on the day of the draft was ridiculous. Why? That's not ridiculous at all. Can we do this tomorrow? You know a man who was really into sports who spread his friend at a sporting event.

At spring training. Okay. Well, the day of the draft is a little better than OTAs or install. We can do it next week. You think that Jerry's going to let him dump him out when they're out there with the rookies and shells? No. No. Yeah, the whole dad thing anyway.

There's just a lot of fluff around a really terrible movie. I learned a lot about the NFL. Yeah, it's a documentary. Go watch it. It's called Draft Day. Here's Jay with the Dumb Zone News. News brought to us today by. Harry's Razors.

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That's right. we had a case that had gone cold. Damn, she thought she got away with that? Probably so. She was like in her 30s? Yeah, it's 2002. So it's 24 years ago. She's 55 now.

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Oh, it was found back then? Correct. How did they piece her into it then? There's no details in this story other than there's a link to she was arrested in Frisco. and Frisco PD put out her mugshot. Now the daughter has always, the guy had a daughter, not her daughter, but the guy had an older daughter

who long thought that her and others were involved. 24 years, man. Here's a 24-year-old photo. Then what do you got? Yeah. Okay. Good stuff. We're on board.

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That's right. No, she found the value in the draft. Yeah, she's going to jail now. Sweet spot on the chart. Like, all right, I guess so. Yeah. These are stories that sort of give me a little bit of tired head, but it seems like something we may be.

should be concerned about, but Kalshi, the betting market, has suspended, among others, a Texas politician from their website because he was trading on his own candidacy. So he, like, placed a bet for, will this person run for office? And then announced that he was running for office. Why not? Yeah. Well, probably because it's not legal.

It's not legal. It's not, well, I don't know that it's criminally illegal, but it's definitely illegal according to their regulatory bylaws. It's illegal. And this is the sort of thing I think that your attorney general is probably supposed to be taken care of, right? Some sort of consumer protection-y type. I think that's what they do. In any case, there were two other people as well. There's politician in Minnesota and one in Virginia all have been banned from the platform.

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I definitely thought that was... I mean, you can just do that, right? As baller as anything, though. You can just do that. Well, certainly they had to pay for the car. But... Yeah, like I said, I probably I probably returned a few cars

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It's going to take an extra 10 or 15 minutes To get out of that place because she is documenting everything, making sure in the office they know. And they're all, like, looking at her. Then they look at me, and I'm like, hey, you just got 15 minutes of this. The starting price to rent one of the robot studios,

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of y'all in Cleveland, which every year prompts Jake to say, yeah, I know that guy. Good dude. His leader is Danny as Scott Stapp. More Soroy N-Boms. Less anchor words slash phrases. It's an S-G-Bit.

Sorry. Never punt and J-T-R-H-N-B-R. Justin. To the tribal chief of Hotmail, it is the Richard Petty birthday of Good Dude and sometimes listener Dustin Dietz. His leader's are the abolishment of condoms so he could become a grandpa in his 30s.

Oh, my. The unwanted audio from Jake's laptop. And Eric Harris's post-shockon recoil nasal fracture. That's so specific. That's from Jay. Should have got a left-handed. The great Jay. And this is one for tomorrow.

This is Friday. All right. All right, now we are going to Game Day Men's Health presents On this day in history. Let's do a quick game day call. We like to have a game day of the week. Our game day location of the week,

or maybe it's a game day location of the day this week. Who do we got for today? This is McKinney. We're going to McKinney? We're going to McKinney? Let's learn about McKinney. Let's call up Game Day Men's Health. Our office hours are Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.

Okay. Well, let's just highlight the McKinney office then. What can we talk about McKinney? The location is... Where the hell is this on my list? I thought Jake might help me a little bit. Okay, it's on Coyt, just south of three. 80 across from Rock Hill High School.

What's Rock Hill High School, Blake? Blue Falcons, blue chargers, blue something. Okay. What is the right testosterone level? They say from 300 up until 900 is normal, so you can get your testosterone level checked for free at any of the 12 Game Day men's health locations. Go to gameday.dumzone.com.

And they will hook you up, especially when you mention the dumb zone, because then they will give you 10% off your testosterone replacement for life. Game Day Men's Health. Big fan. Get you some peptides. Oh, yeah. Be your best you.

Let's go to today in history. It's Thursday, April 23rd on this day in 1910. Former President Theodore Roosevelt delivered his famous Man in the Arena speech. Have you ever heard that referenced? me yeah a time or two he said it's not the critic who counts not the man who points not the man who points out how strong how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena sounds like a loser's cry to me on this day in 1964 ken johnson of the houston baseball team which was at that time called the colt forty five became the first major leaguer to throw a nine-inning, no-hitter, and lose.

Wow. Pete Rose got on with a throwing air. It was zero-zero heading into the ninth. Then there was a bunts. He scores on another air, and the Reds actually win one-nothing, but there were no hits. On this day in 1985 is when the Coca-Cola company announced it would change at 99-year-old formula to introduce new Coke to combat falling market share against Pepsi. It did outperform the competitors in blind taste tests, but the new Coke triggered massive consumer backlash.

And they returned the original Coke in July 1985. Many would say, was that the plan all along? And they have denied that. on this day in 1988 so it's 88 when a federal ban on smoking during airline flights of two hours or less went into effect so if you have to you were really hoping for that two hour and 15 minute flight that'll give you people were absolutely booking around that right yeah oh yeah like if you had a choice of positive my mom was let's be reasonable two hours that somebody's going to take over the plane if we try to ban that. On this day in 1993, the Mazz avoided the worst record in NBA history because they won.

That means they won their 11th game of the season. God, I remember that. I remember you'd get your sports illustrated and it would rank the worst franchises in all of pro sports every year. There's always, Mazz were always one of them. By the way, no 9-11s happen when you could smoke on planes.

Think about it. I think there was a lot of hijackings on planes. But nine of lines in particular. Okay, all right, well, okay. And on this day in 2005, it was the first ever YouTube video was posted by a YouTube co-founder. Entitled Me at the Zoo. Oh. Entitled what?

Tub girl. All right. 23rd of April, Dumb Zone History. Not much. This is the day we played the Kirstie Alley during viewer. My house she found her dead parents. That's about it. All right.

We have other birthdays today. Peyton Hendersonhot is 27. Chief? He was. I don't know where he is now. He is a not NFL player. Naga. Right.

Chloe Kim is 26. It says next to her name Kempspin. Well, I don't know that it's necessarily hers, but some DJ, by the way, that's a part of the Diana Rossini, Mike Vrabble thing we didn't get. get into is I think two talk show hosts at WEEEI in Boston might have got suspended or fired. For what? Some sort of comments on this story and people are suggesting.

Like now? This week? Yeah. The craft has been pretty involved here. Whereas like Christian Foria, I think, who works there didn't get it suspended. And he obviously used to be a patriot. Like if Jerry Jones called the fan and said, I do not want these two working, they wouldn't, right? They would fire him.

I would think so. Yeah. But I believe that somebody who worked at WEEI made some comments about Chloe Kim. What do you got? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I said she was a hot piece of ass when she was 17.

Well, today she's 26 and nailing Miles Garrett. Wow. Who could be a cowboy by the end of this night? Great point. be pretty great. Andrew Jones is 49. Brave. The best.

Got me worked up this morning. You know I wanted to do the segment on Andrew Jones doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. His first year, as a candidate, he got 7% of the vote. You're telling me he got better over those next 10 years? Like that much better? He had 7% of the vote. I thought he was awesome.

He used to catch fly balls right here. With his glove? Those are fun teams. Kyle Use Check is 35. Joe Ferguson is 76. That's a former Bill's quarterback. He led the NFL in passing yards in 1977. 2400.

2803. 12 touchdowns. That's what the Cowboys gave up on third down alone. 12 touchdowns, 24 interceptions. Shut up. Look it up yourself. That's insane. Like at some point, we're just going to.

take the ball out of your hands. If you're going to risk, well, if you're going to throw it for 2,800 yards, no, one to two is an un-sustainable. That's not occasional. You just don't get it. Michael Moore is 72. Were you really into him? Are you embarrassed to say?

You know what? When I go back to it, I would say that I generally am still into the same message that Michael Moore was hitting me with when I was. was 16 or 17. It's just the bitchy, whiny, dare I say, cunty way that he communicated that I wish I would have stayed more away from. Do you know what I mean?

But as far as like the ideas, yeah, in general, I think he... John Sina's 49. I wish that Michael Moore acted like John Sina, is what I'm saying. Then, now you've got my two worlds together. John Oliver is 49. Cal Penn is 49. from Harold and Kamar. Dev Patel is 36.

He's from Slumdog Millionaire. And our Dumzum birthday of the day, in honor of Jake today, is Todd Clem. He's 61. Did you play the little dog? I want you to search Todd Clem. C-L-E-M. Oh, okay.

Bubba the Love Sponge. Fantastic. Whose wife had sex with Hulk Hogan and his Pepsi can penis. On video, right? Oh, yeah. brought about the interest of PayPal founder Peter Thiel, who the publication Gawker,

who had published Hulk Hogan's penis photos, had once added as gay. Peter Thiel was mad. And 15 years later, Donald Trump was president invading Iran. I feel like there's some thread there? No, I don't think there's some thread. I think that's 100% all in the same thing. I think Peter Thiel's the reason Trump is president

are a big part of it. all they did was said he was gay is he yeah oh well then what's that bad oh he didn't want everybody to know it feels like an overreaction uh born on the stay now dead hervey villichez he was the uh the midget on fantasy island a little person but it also got us Hulk Hogan wearing his formal du rag in court where he wore all black and still had like a suit du rag Us balds will do that That's a cool look Should I go do rag guy Please

Hulk Hogan Who is the other guy There was a couple What about like Stevie Like You know from the East Street Manzan? Yeah

He kind of has a gypsy Edband type thing going on He does it not bald right I don't think he's bald I'm just trying to think of guys I see wearing head vans besides Hulk Hogan Does Kid Rott do it?

Kind of, yeah, Jesse Ventura's got a big one. Like, I can't be a bow tie guy. I got to be some different thing. The clear glasses are just sitting there staring at you from Warby Parker. Jan Hooks, born on the stay now dead. The office. And William Shakespeare. Dead on the stay still dead.

William Shakespeare. Hey. You think they were doing good records back then, or you think, I think he was born in April. So the guy who wrote all the stories just had happened to be like, I died the same day? Okay. When do you think he died?

Like what year do you think he was a lot? Ooh, that's a pretty good one, folks. 1600? Yeah, it was going 1650. I'm going to say 1550. Although I'm, yeah, 1550. You guys are all right there. died in 1616, the age of 52.

Good. Also died on this day, Howard CoSell. Howard CoSell. Oh, yes. What is Bubba the Love Sponge sounds like. Did you ever listen to his work? Never. He's one of those guys.

I always heard of Man Cow and Bubba the Love. These are just radio guys from across the land. Somehow they're all from Tampa. Yeah. Closing remarks time. This segment of the dumb zone brought to you by Frankl and Frankl. Even if you die in a car accident, we could help your living family get the bag. Frankl and Frankl.

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That's about what I thought. I had to listen to the fan because I wanted to hear Brandon interviewed. I mean, those guys aren't bad. It's just a lot of that. It's like this huge contra. Topped in Mother's Day gifts. Flowers.

Can't go wrong with flowers. What's up, man? So is it by design that on the same day that we talk about Bubba the Love Spunge, we've got these things going on? Is that a little peek behind the curtain there? Very nice. I can't believe I made it this long without a note. Okay.

What if that was your nickname? Got to avoid that penguin walk. I have a feeling now. Yeah. Yeah, you asked me what my bit was earlier. I just had a couple milestones this year. so wanted to celebrate, reward myself a little bit. Couldn't think of a better way than coming over here.

Some people want to go to Jerusalem or Mecca or the 9-11 Memorial, you know, down the street. I wanted to come to the Dragon Den, so that's the impetus for being here. Turned 40 back in August. So I think a fellow Reagan victory baby, Jake. Yep. August 3rd. So I think, actually, we might be twins. It's possible.

It's very possible. My dad's name's Greg as well. So could be. I certainly seem a lot less like athletic than my brother. I had to write an article, or not had to, got to write an article for D Magazine referencing my athleticism. And I was jostled back in the memory of how many, you sure your mom wasn't hanging out with the milk band jokes I would get,

like from coaches. I don't think I've ever really told you guys about that. Like the look on their face when they saw Meek, when they saw him, you know, and they're like, what? What happened? Yeah. Did you put, were you in 2002 or 03? 04, actually. So that's what I did.

I got the advantage. So he got it. Yeah. Getting held back. I was six when I started kindergarten. So I was always one of the older kids. And that's why you're in the NFL. Exactly.

Like I would have been. Exactly. I do have a hot sports opinion about the draft tonight. Super. that we signed Brandon Aubrey. I think we just trade out of this draft completely. All of our picks. We've got Brandon locked up. What else do you really need? You might as well hold the pick. How much better could this year's team be? Exactly. Now that they have Brandon locked up. Think about it. You know, the talent in this draft is so-so. Let's just kick it down the road a couple

years. Is sitting out the draft the new market inefficiency? Let's ask AI, you know. You got to ask AI. I got a couple of quick hits, so I wanted to reference something that was talked about last week with the baseball errors, Jake. I'm on your side, buddy. I grew up playing baseball Little League. I was a pitcher, watched the Rangers growing up. Not a seamhead like Blake or Dan. And I never never came up for me, the errors thing. I could tell you what a drop third strike is. Almost word for word, really. Yeah, exactly. that's called a drop third strike. And I don't think Jason Killer Killison ever really covered, you know, what an error is.

And all my baseball knowledge really comes from him. Now that we're in closing remarks and most people have turned it off, the reason I was getting pissed is because I felt like I was admitting something dumb. And they were like, it has to be dumber than that. And they're like, you got ball sacked. And I'm like, well, yeah, but if the tweet said C.D. Lamb goes for 10,000. and yards. I would never believe it because I know how you, I know the number of yards you can get in a game. I legitimately didn't know. So if it said CD Lamb eight penalties on one play,

you'd have been like, whoa. Crazy. Did you guys see CD get eight penalties on a play? I think. Like you don't take one second to think how would I get eight, eight errors on one play? Yeah, I mean, in my head, it. And you said I watched it. Yeah, I started and dropped the ball. Two errors, yeah. Yeah, and then I just, yeah, I did not watch the end of it. But, yeah, it seemed, but it doesn't matter. It'd have to be some kind of slapstick type play, right? I mean, ultimately, but if you don't know that the runners got.

The great thing is that you're still arguing it now. I certainly wasn't going to bring it up. I'm just saying I'm in your corner. You're not the only one that didn't know that. We might be the only two that didn't know that, but there's at least one other person. Thank you. The point is, I don't think you would have been ball-sacked. I think you would have said, you would not.

That sounds crazy. There's eight errors on one play. I just don't think you would have brought it to the table that Jake just said, we got to do like two or three segments on this. And me and Blake were like, all right. I caught the video one by one. We're going to break down. Down in the garage.

He just pushed you up against the wall. And so we got to cover this. That's what that hole is down there. Okay. I was wondering. Well, there was somebody in viewer mail that talked about how they hate anchor words. So I've got a couple for you. A valiant.

Oh. Effort. Okay. and then this is a dumb zone specific one might have already been covered musculoskeletal i don't know but i like it and don't say urgent care don't be a dick um okay i sent you a link blake i do want to get dan's reaction on this so you know when we came to the din here which is awesome by the way take your shoes off totally understand and i totally respect that i was watching a comedy special recently, Pete Holmes, and he did a bit about that.

So I wanted to... We can play some of it. Okay. Maybe like the last... Last half or last minute of it. Last minute. Okay, we're going to go into... Is this a tight 40?

You brought a 40-minute bit? It's a 40-minute bit. It's the entire special. Yeah. Including the credits. Let's see here. Play. Maybe you shouldn't be using audition or audacity.

And how does it make you take your shoes? off. They always have a dog. Which is it, dipshit? I've thought about this. We're keeping it clean in here? We letting wolves just walk in, Scott Free. Yeah, it's true. And I fight this at home, too, because... The dog walks through everything. He sees something and is like, I need to lay down now.

I know, but at the end of the day, isn't it a George Dijon running or sprinting or, you know, Snickers or Banana thing? It's still better. It's still better because... But I do this at home with my wife. And you want to know what she says to me, you'll do it for Dan. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, we let the dog in here. And I'm like, yeah, I know. It's wrong what I do too. But the dog is disgusting. But that dog sleeps in my bed with me.

I'm naked. He's naked. We're all naked. Judgment free zone here. If you continue to listen to it, like, I know we're not allowed to. But if you did, he'd talk about how the dog goes outside, doesn't wipe. We all watched him, you know, do his business. Because we all watch your dog take a shaky leg, loose stool, diarrhea dump on your front lawn.

He didn't wipe, dogs don't wipe, and he just walked in, Scott Free. And then he walked right by my shoes. He was dragging his ass on the carpet. Sorry, Bodie. Sorry. Good bit. I was disappointed whenever I heard the dogs weren't going to be here at first. I was thinking they were going to be gone the entire time, so glad that they showed up in the middle of this.

Last thing I'll say, the Waterburger Car tray. So I was at the, if you might hand me that, the 161, the Bush event, got my picture with T.C. Went through the graduation line, got my tray. And I didn't get it signed by you guys. So I want to get it signed so that I was telling Jake, you know, maybe one day I'm never going to sell it because it's worth too much to me. And it's actually coming handy on a few occasions. Sure. But in the, you know, when I die, it might be in my will.

And my kids may not want it. They might want to sell it. So as a sort of a certificate of authenticity, I'd like for you guys to sign it on the air if you don't mind. Oh, I did bring some Sharpies. We can definitely do that for you. Well, make sure Blake's is very legible because he's, take a bit. He is against people signing illegible. Oh, I just.

You can pass it on to your. adult child if you adopt, like in Japan. I've been looking into that a lot since we talked to Matthew on Friday. Was that his name? High school Mike. High school Mike. Yeah, he said you can adopt an adult person. Very common in Japan.

Is that to get around some kind of rules? It is. Oh, just B. Jones. We don't have time for you. That's my signature. Okay. And I do want you to sign it too as well, Foodie CK. I saw your Waterburger Cup over there.

And, you know, I honestly don't think it'd be the same if he didn't sign it. He's Waterburger guy. Yeah. It'll be the only one ever signed. There you go. It's even more valuable now. So I'm going to have a thumb. That is a one and one.

I'm going to have that in a manila envelope along with the thumb drive of this recording. Take it to Sotheby's or whatever. Yeah. Thanks for coming, dude. Yeah. Much appreciated. Anything to contribute? Who's Andy?

I had nothing to add. What's Andy's bit? What are your relation? My bits are of. Just friends? So I partners. Yeah, partners in crime and business and life. No, one of my best friends is cousins with him,

and we've connected over this kind of content. Yes. This is your best friend's cousin. Yeah. Okay. Best friend's not into radio or anything like this. Or sports. So.

I can at least hang. Exactly. Exactly. Good deal. Thanks guys. Awesome, dude. Really appreciate it. Draft.

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