The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 6-1-26 | Sarah Hepola and accused "sexual encounter center" owner Israel Luna
Episode Date: June 1, 2026Hear every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneWe come back from a big NBA weekend to discuss the outcome of the Spurs-Thunder series.... Sarah Hepola sits in on the latter half. We're also joined by a man from the news, Israel Luna. We previously covered the story of his studio being raided by DPD. He explains the truth of the matter. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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Now, on to today's program.
The dumza, dunza.
These are viewer-mail birthdays.
Hello, Hoover of the Honeypot.
Sunday was...
Go back and grab Israel's face on this video.
I'm sorry, I happen to catch that other corner of my eye.
So many puns.
Oh, it's just getting started.
Are we on?
How's it going?
Fair.
Yeah, let's talk Fair lease.
Fair lease is going to be out of our generic summer event this weekend.
You hopefully will be out there.
as well. I mean you, Jake.
Yeah. Fairlease.org is where you can go online, on internet, and buy a vehicle. Actually,
excuse, I should say lease a vehicle. You could sell your vehicle back to them, though.
They'll take trade-ins. And you could do it all from the air-conditioned comfort of your home.
Or a sauna, really, if you want. It's up to you. There's no tricks and traps like at a dealership.
This is Fair lease, which means they do with you fairly, because they're...
They're backed by the credit union of Texas.
They don't have some big bank.
They have to answer to.
They just answer your phone calls at 972705-4815.
Ask for Connor or Nick or the website, like Dan said,
Fairlease.org.
Fair lease.
No, that's good.
I thought there was good.
No, no, it's good.
Because car stuff is hard, but not with Fair lease.
You don't need a dealership, baby.
What's up, boss?
I got bossed.
He's peeping.
little candy.
We're in the candy hall.
Hello, friends.
You are looking live at where we are.
Broadcasting live to tape from our downtown Dallas Fox 4 studios.
It's known as the Game Day Men's Health Studio.
In the Fox 4 building, we're kind of in the back corner, so no one will see us.
And this is where they keep the candy.
The candy bowl is in our hallway.
It's true.
The free stuff table is in the other hallway.
But we will see the security guy who, what's up boss is me when I come in?
I've been preempting him.
You boss him ahead of time?
Yeah.
Does that cause him to...
What's up, boss?
What's up, boss?
What's up boss?
What's up boss?
Do you like that lady in total recall and...
Had to explode?
No?
Grow a third boob.
Anyway, this is the dumb zone.
I'm Dan McDowell.
I'm Jake Kim.
I'm T.C. Fleming.
Who do you see you?
And we are all here.
That's right.
T.C.
in for Blake today.
Blake with the, totally cool with the, hey, just need a couple days off.
Totally cool with that.
Does seem weird to do it the week of the summer event.
Like, what about the day after the summer event?
That'd be a, I could totally understand that.
We've put so much into this.
That's all right.
He wants to be 100 P.
Like that guy once said.
Yeah, that's fine.
I was in.
It's all good.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Yeah, so we're here.
We're downtown.
It is the week of the generic summer event.
That will be Saturday.
In fact, I could tell you exactly as far as right now.
Countdown, countdown.
Down to the second.
I do have a countdown clock made.
So Saturday night, the GSC will be barely legal.
Five days, six hours, 26 minutes, and 25 seconds.
Very exciting.
I saw something on Twitter the other day that...
Four Cornish Brewery.
That made me compose the tweet.
I feel like a lot of people of a certain age and younger don't know that the most popular
porno meg used to be called barely legal.
You feel that wouldn't fly as well today?
I don't think it would fly as well, no.
But it would...
I think it would sell at exactly the same rate.
I think now it's just probably been driven to a...
I swear there was a DVD title I once saw called Finally Legal.
Let's up the desperation level.
You're celebrating.
Like, you've been waiting.
Now, barely legal.
You might have just walked in and now you're looking at, oh, okay.
This is now on sale.
I didn't realize this was even here.
Finally legal, you've been hoping.
You've been looking.
It's like a pinata.
You kind of searched.
What is the Texas law compared to, you know, and you're realizing, all right,
the countdown clock is hit.
finally here we are.
And that's how you'll feel Saturday night.
Yeah.
At the second annual Dumb Zone generic summer event brought to you by Community Mechanical.
They're giving away a train mini split.
So come run a train at the summer event.
That costs like over $2,000.
Much more than that.
Well, I said over.
Well, yeah, but it's like five grand.
Oh, over $5,000 then.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I didn't know the baseline for...
Two would be, you would say the two is a weird one to pick if you knew five.
I thought it was, right.
I thought it was $2,500.
You're telling me it was five, okay.
I think.
I think.
Yeah, so if I did say it's over $10, that's factually correct.
It's not super helpful.
But to say over $5.000.
Connie Rousseau will be out there.
Grilling?
Ovening pizzas.
I think they might even bring their burger grill for the Pilf Catering.
Heck yeah.
Very excited.
So yeah, that's Saturday.
Quaker City Nighthawks and Prophets and Outlaws
We'll have music
We'll have some games
Some prizes
Games, huh?
Family Feuds a game
Okay
I was talking to Chris Spinks this morning
About what we have to offer promotions-wise
And just
You're going to be hugely excited
When you get there and figure that out
As I was, when I got home Friday
And saw my clean pool
Let me just do a little puddle pools before we get into the weekend.
Okay.
Because they are kick-ass.
I was thinking about puddle pools this weekend.
Wow.
My daughter's in town, and she realized she didn't have a bathing suit,
and she was drawn in by the...
Inviting?
It'd be calling me, yeah.
It's sparkling water.
Our old...
So we had an old pool company.
We had a few different ones.
This is like three combined into one.
our old pool company, the one that did the chemicals and stuff with the pool,
said, you're whatever level pH, I don't know, there was some level,
and they're like, it's out of whack, we're going to have to drain the pool.
Okay, feels drastic.
And then you fill it back up.
And yeah, and I was like, well, what's that entail?
And that's a lot.
It's a big, big deal.
And puddle pools came in and said, well, hold on.
What if we adjusted some of your chemicals?
will kind of work on it, and then we'll check and see if it's getting better.
If it isn't, then we may have to drain the pool.
Well, they ended up making those levels correct, and they'll show you.
Puddlepools.com slash dumbzone is how you can sign up.
It's monthly, so you can bail after a month if you don't like them.
I think you'll like them.
And then if you do like them and you want to lock in, you get a free month if you sign up for a whole year.
Yeah, that experience you described
of coming home on Friday and the pool being
right there inviting, that's exactly what
happened to me. We had a pool party Friday,
had the book club.
Let me tell you something. The wives were just
they were very impressed
with the quality of the pool. So yeah,
puddlepools.com slash dumb zone.
Here's a song.
It's got water we can clean it.
Puddle pool. If I say that then
I mean it. Puttle pool.
I said so I won't need you.
Puttle pool.
Wait, I meant to say you.
So Blake is not here.
And he's kind of our cleanup hitter typically for a weekend check.
So who's it going to be?
I'll go clean up if you want.
Okay.
I'm not saying that's the greatest.
Go ahead.
I made a trip to Abilene this weekend, to the homeland.
Drove my mother out there before she departs on her summer adventures.
And I got to see some classic family time, you know, the cousins that you don't see,
but like once every couple years and they've all got 100 kids now and you don't.
Your mom's kind of sitting there going, why don't I have this?
Your mom upset with that?
You can feel that?
She used to be, but then sitting at lunch with three kids under the age of five just running roughshot.
She was kind of like, okay.
I don't miss this.
And I'm like, yeah, well, that would be your life if I had a kid.
Are you the only human that has fallen out of her?
I am the only, the one and only.
One and done.
Couldn't top me.
Now, he said something at the start there that probably we could spend a lot more time on.
But just if I could get a quick explainer on,
I was driving my mom to Amarillo before she takes off on her summer adventures.
Yeah.
I don't I deserve one mom have some okay well that's what does that mean she's she lives there so you she lives in Phoenix or something she's
I think they summer in Phoenix they winter or winter in Phoenix yes summer is Palermo uh summer is
summer is never is Carmel okay they have a VRBO they rent every summer in and uh Carmel and Indiana
yeah Indiana it's lovely this time of year no California
T.C. It's a place you want to be.
So, yeah, we hadn't been out there in a while, but two points.
Something I had for the first time out there was chicken fried shrimp.
Shrimp fried like a chicken fried steak. It was absolutely delicious.
I guess I don't know how chicken frying is different.
So like, yeah.
It has that fried fried shrimp isn't just already.
It's the type of breading.
It's like the flour, the milk, the egg mixture.
Yeah.
It's basically like you're eating a chicken fried steak,
except on the inside there's a piece of shrimp instead of,
you know, normally it would be like your fish batter or like your tempura.
They said this shrimp is a little too healthy.
What can we do?
Yeah.
I like it a lot.
Yeah.
In Louisiana, sometimes they'll just twice fry it.
It's not bad.
Just to make sure.
Yeah.
It'll just have like an extra coating.
It's like a little sausage bowl with shrimp in the middle.
It's delicious.
And I hate to do this, but we got to pump Dan up.
It is canned fish summer.
Look, all you guys are admitting it one by one.
I will never eat a fish out of a can in my life.
But you are admitting that it's 10 fish summer.
I saw you on Twitter.
Yeah, no.
Grudgingly having to it.
Except the fact that I'm right.
How many times do we got to run this play, but okay.
So we were at my cousin's house afterwards.
He's got a young one-year-old, and his diet consists of canned sardines, yogurt, and salmon.
The one-year-old?
Yeah.
Oh, that seems weird, but okay.
Kids will eat anything at that age.
Mine ate salmon and stuff at that age, too.
But they were like, yeah, he's kind of a picky eater.
He only eats these three things.
And I said, boys and girls, if you only knew, there's a man in Dallas right now that is clapping.
Sometimes they just stay that way.
Just slowly clapping as he hears it.
It's like, if you had him tested.
Everything, and I mean everything, even just walking through the candy hall just now in the bathroom at the halls of Fox 4, there was some news report being edited.
Everything is Ozempic folks.
Every news story somehow.
You know what I saw yesterday?
Guess what's back?
Beer.
You know why?
Because you can drink it now without having to worry about calories as much.
Because you're not eating as much elsewhere.
And you want to go out and be seen around people again because you're hot.
So now there's been a recent upticking bars and alcohol sales.
Boy, you never hit the right time on a trend, do you?
No.
Now that you're out, everybody's like, oh, cool.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not saying it'll ever be like it was, but it is funny.
You know, the protein ice cream is what?
It's Ozzypick.
The fish.
That's what this is.
You know, they have Pop-Tarts, folks.
They're delicious.
Protein pop-tarts.
Protein ranch.
Protein ranch, Clayton sent me the other day,
which is just a, feels like putting Dan and T-ball.
Like, what's he supposed to do with that?
When are you thinking about starting a family?
I haven't put two thoughts into it, actually.
No.
Okay.
I didn't know if I should write anything down.
Yeah, are we over-proteined?
Like, is this...
Should we be eating this much protein?
We were under-proteined before.
Now, I talked to a nutritionist this week that said that we are, in fact, over-proteined,
and that there's a negative correlation to life expectancy,
despite the positive correlation of muscle gains.
TC found someone that agrees with him.
I don't have a strong opinion about, I eat plenty of protein.
It's meat.
I eat a lot of meat.
Yeah, but the idea of that's not what your guy's talking about.
Your guys talking about people who prioritize.
You're showing your biases?
I said guy is the same as a lady.
My daughter.
Yeah, I think historically, though, I think over the last like 20 or 30 years,
I don't think that people have gotten enough protein.
like the average American diet has shifted way away from it.
Also, part of this is Oprah convinced people that eating beef was bad.
And so for about a 20-year period.
Yeah, they really took a hard hit.
Like, there's a while that nobody was eating meat.
Like, there was just bean burgers, left him right.
Are you just, like, does the, I don't understand the basis of the bit.
Like, you know, there's like market data on these sorts of things, right?
Okay, so it took a slight hit
Because I don't remember like the country going
Yeah, Oprah
You're right
Beef is bad
I thought it was mad cow disease
We got to a point where they were trying to ban
Like certain types of beef in the government
Right?
Did you just hear that?
Did I just hear that?
But I'm saying yes, I'm sure the beef people were like
They're wanting to ban all beef
they want to, I feel like that was all false cries, just like they,
right after they put the cat litter box in the school, they're going to ban beef next.
Okay.
Hurry up.
Get out there and make sure that we don't ban beef, folks, because.
This is a really bad point, but.
Okay, am I wrong?
Of course you're wrong.
I wouldn't have said it if I didn't know I was right.
What are you proven?
What's right?
Just that beef consumption is not as high as it was in the 70s and 80s.
It's not even fucking close.
And I don't know why you bowed up over such a weird point.
Because like...
Because that's all I see is meat everywhere.
And yeah, no, I don't think that right-wing politicians saying they're going to try to ban your gas stove and ban your meat is a real thing.
I do think that there have been policies towards like incentivizing moving away from beef.
Lots of them.
Too many people like then.
But I don't, the thing is, I don't care.
I don't have a dog behind.
He apparently does, though.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, I don't care.
But I did, I guess, sort of stop eating beef because I was led to believe it was bad for you.
That's fine.
But now some guy in Rogan said this not.
Yeah, the liver king.
I didn't know.
You don't even have to cook it?
They called it Boy Kibble and I got fired up about it.
No, I mean, I also remember learning that the fake burger wasn't really any better for me.
Oh, no.
It's in fact a little bit worse, I believe.
I think in some ways it is better, like, maybe cholesterol.
But, yeah, I don't think, I think.
No, the only thing you should eat is a bean.
It's just plain bean.
Soylent.
Or no, what did, uh...
Legumes.
Where are the blue zones, right?
They do eat fish and rice.
The Mediterranean diet, yeah.
I'm not saying you want to make your whole diet.
You also have to catch it yourself to use that much energy and everything.
You can't use a blender.
Also, you can't drive and you should walk uphill everywhere.
Yeah.
And then you're going to live to like 112.
Or at least you can say that you do.
Aren't like all those places real light on birth certificates?
Right.
And they're all like real outdoors.
So if you know any outdoor, like haven't you ever known like a 50-year-old who looks like he's 80 because he's just weathered?
That's those people.
They're also weathered because they're next to the sea.
I remember, and maybe this is a bad bid just entirely.
They're all 40.
They die and they're like, oh, man.
I remember hearing that the Blue Zone thing is...
112.
Been here many, many generations.
It's either fake or it's like Dave Ramsey-ish.
Like too obvious?
And that it's like, yes, everyone who lives near the ocean and by necessity has to walk.
You know, it wasn't even, it was a bunch of factors.
Like why was...
Why were the average American in better shape in 1880?
Right.
But we didn't have gyms.
We didn't have, yeah, but your whole life was a gym.
That's just to do anything.
Hell of a point.
Everything is gym.
Yeah, and your bodies are evolved for a certain amount of activity that we stopped doing 200 years ago.
Did Dan go?
He's going to clean up.
We started arguing about...
Clayton's the only one that's gone.
That's what I thought.
Go ahead.
Who?
T.C.
I want to hear about the video.
The video...
Oh, well, I wasn't over the weekend.
I was done with that by the weekend.
I got back and celebrated.
I guess he doesn't want to play radio.
By swimming in Phillips pool.
I mean, I did a video.
Yeah, I don't know.
We did a IJB about it.
It was awesome.
Casey D. Band is the artist.
Casey Stanislaw is the dude.
just known through Jorts.
I went to Cameron, Texas.
That's where he's from.
The video centers around Sam Anderson, who you guys know.
He was joining your show, Wall, filming the video.
And then a lady who is, in fact, a nutritionist student at Texas A&M
that has some strong opinions about whether or not protein is actually good for you.
Interesting.
I'm very interested.
It's the framing thing.
It's not whether it's not good for you.
So you were, so that's down there by A&M.
Yeah.
Oh, it looks like it's near Hearnway.
It is down Hearnway.
Not Hearnway.
In fact, yeah, it's real close to Hearn.
Or much closer to Hearn than now.
Yeah, it is.
The Hearn hypothetical lives on.
Because we were with Casey, you know, like everyone there, everyone in Cameron,
he knows he's lived there for forever.
And so getting integrated into like the society of,
of those small towns is really cool.
It's just neat.
So the Hearn hypothetical, like Cameron Hypothetical, you're in.
Absolutely.
I am in.
Put me here.
The Hearn hypothetical is, would you live in Hearn, Texas, what is it?
You make a million dollars a year, a 10-year contract, but you cannot leave during that entire
contract, you can't leave the city limits of Hearn.
And you're doing a radio show about Hearn.
About Hearns sports.
Yeah, just go.
over the high school. And you can't give a hypothetical of like, well, let's compare Hearn to what
the Cowboys are like. And they, you can't even, you can't talk about real sports that you like.
You have to just talk about Hearn. And so you can have the volleyball coach on and you can.
Can you do the Hearn County News? I would have, I think it's all Hearns sports.
Okay, man, that, that is important for me. It's Hearns Sports Talk only.
I would have an awesome time. And you have to remember your deal.
dealing with high school kids, so you have to do sports in that way.
You can't, you know, rip them and say they should be cut because it's high school.
That's a layup.
You're not going to feel fulfilled because you're not going to be like, yeah, but I'm not getting my points across.
But you're going to have a million bucks, which will make you the richest person who's ever lived there.
And then you can leave after 10 years.
And like he's saying the guy he knows has some money and lives there and the money goes way further.
And he's just got buddies.
Yeah, but I don't think he does much.
I mean, his, he's got, his homies are there.
You got to get, you got to get some buddies there.
Do you get to travel with the team?
No, well, that's the thing, though.
That's a good question.
Yes.
But you have to stay with the team.
Yeah, when they're leaving, you're leaving.
I'll leave right now and go do this.
I think I would struggle, but I think I could do it.
I don't think it's a struggle at all.
It's a wonderful way of life.
And I told T.C., there's no way he could do it.
He has to walk.
I was having a great thing.
I agree with you.
He's an urban guy.
Yeah, he has to walk to go get his...
He loves living amongst...
Get a transgender sandwich.
Yeah.
Every other day.
He likes to move his car every 24 hours so he doesn't get a ticket.
Right.
This is who he is.
Yeah, I just...
City folk.
If you're living by the square and Cameron, you can do plenty of walking.
We walk to the thrift store.
Sam bought a new...
Sam and I have been down there twice, and he's bought camo both times.
To the surprise of no one.
He looks like a person.
who would have a closet full of, like the Jim Harbaugh closet.
Yes.
Just full of wrinkly.
And headbands.
Big giant camo.
The first one was camo basketball jersey.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Well, so when can we expect to see the video?
How long does this take?
I would think that he won't put it out for another month or two.
I still got out of it.
Wait for sweeps.
TRL.
Yeah, wait for sweeps.
Where music videos ever that big a part of your?
life.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, because I don't know if you were...
I mean, the invention of
MTV was
when I was a kid. I didn't know how locked in
you were to that sort of thing, you know?
We had an
era where...
Even then, it bothered me out. I was a little run-the-ball guy
and that I like
when listening to music,
you create a thing in your head.
And then when you get a video,
a music video, well, now that's what I think of.
I only just think of what is in
the video, but it was
the video I made in my head was
really never as good, though.
That's interesting.
I'll give you a couple
quick ones here.
I told you guys last week that
Steph Curry's movie Goat
is on repeat in my house right now.
Is it any good?
It's a kid's movie, obviously?
It's a kid's movie.
I think it actually is.
I think it is.
is pretty good, but I don't know. I'm a sucker, man. I'm just, I've lost my critical eye.
You know what I mean? You had a critical eye? I guess if I ever did, I've lost it. I,
it's annoying in some ways, but it's also, it's for a kid's movie pretty good. You know,
there's some parts of both the two main characters that are Steph. One of them's like an aging
player on a team who doesn't want to bring along the rookie. Like, I'm here to try to wear. What are you
making me deal with these idiots for.
And there's a lot of parts in it where it's clear that, like, it's based on Steph's experience.
This is about Weisman?
Not, yes.
So James Wise not being able to get, I don't know, what's another one that they failed on?
I mean, comminga debatable?
Kaminga to put his phone down.
Like, it's animals playing basketball, is the point here, folks.
And the goat is a little guy who gets to play with the bigs because he can shoot.
Yeah
But he's an actual goat
This is a cocky movie, right?
Extremely cocky
I think you're allowed to be cocky
If you're one of the five best basketball players
He's the greatest shooter of all time
So
Do you make a movie call it the goat though?
Like hey, this is the best
The best player
It's about me
Yeah
I did this movie
Well now the good news is
Is that you won't at all have
Three and four year olds
Running around going
I'm the goat
It's just jamming back
That's all Carter says
now and I'm like, you know, we're going to have the deal with this from an early age.
Like, we should just, we should never have invented this word.
However, he seems more like a Dremont to me than, than a Steph.
We'll see.
He's appear to have some Dremon tendencies.
There was, uh, once upon a time, a tweet that appeared and is now gone, but it is,
let's say prefer, let's say referred to as the, this man eating beans tweet.
It said, man, I remember it differently.
So there's a tweet from long, long, long ago, Dan, or a man tweeted,
I spilled baked beans all over myself watching Cars 2 in theaters.
And a black teenager shouted, this in eating beans.
And everyone laughed.
This is a legendary tweet?
It's in my top 10.
A lot of people is of a certain vein of internet.
It's just.
Not a week has gone by since.
Where you haven't thought of this isn't eaten meat.
Okay, so now there's a scene in the movie where young goat slash Steph is in their version of Rucker Park
and he's shaking the bad guy who's a big horse and this dialogue occurs.
Wow.
It's got to be.
There's no other reason.
There's no beans in the scene.
Horses don't eat beans.
They're out of basketball game.
There's no tie in two because people that are.
are into that tweet probably have kids of that age.
Exactly.
So they know that they're speaking to.
Taylor made.
They know the kids are dumb.
They'll watch anything.
So let's make sure I can suck the adults in.
Yeah.
It's great.
Disney putting any window in there.
This dude's eating beans.
Even worse, when you have to try to explain that to the wife who's not online.
That's fun.
And then, uh,
then you got to explain it to your kid.
Yeah.
So maybe we talk about this more in depth at a later time,
but TC and I did something together yesterday.
That's right.
We went to a place in the Friscoe, the colony area called Kidzania.
And it's at the mall.
It's at Stonebrier Mall, which, yo, popping.
Big time, fish grease, cooking.
It's odd, isn't it, that you go to some malls and they're just dead.
Yeah.
One every eight stores is actually occupied, but then you go to some.
Right.
There were no...
It's as if there was no...
Yeah, you're in the 80s.
Yeah.
You need some of them.
Like, we made too many malls, and so the bad ones got to die off.
But place to get together, buy things immediately, not have to wait on it.
Get to try things on.
Kill time with your kids?
This is clearly a useful concept.
So much shit you can just buy.
In a metro this size, we should have three...
Three or four.
And I'm glad that we've reconcentrated them rather than having this spread out, you know,
because there are no sword stores, no crystal stores, none of that bulsh.
These are real.
Too bad.
Yeah, but they got all the highlights.
The low rent stores are out.
But Kidzania is there.
And I don't know, somewhat of a foul up on our own.
I'm only telling you this as a PSA for future parents.
My wife bought the tickets online.
and it's like a kid's attraction park, but we didn't, we bought them online, used the kiosk.
No one explained the concept of this place to us when we walked in.
Because when you walk in, it's like a little kid's city inside the mall, and it's covered,
but it's like streets, a little street block and a bunch of businesses.
And there's obviously some sort of like business partnership thing going on here because you can,
You can work with, let's say, a vet tech,
and they can show you on a real operating thing,
like how they would administer shots to a cat.
It's a fake cat.
Be a firefighter.
There was a Spotify branded podcast studio.
Yes, where you can walk by.
You're doing different jobs.
So little kids, your kid's age, are realizing,
hey, podcaster, on the list of stuff I might do.
Yeah.
but they also have a WFAA studio and like our daughters went in there and they can see how you're
how it doesn't there's really they're too young probably for it but the point is they've got a
bunch of different real businesses in here that are kind of advertising like planet fitness will
give you a 15 minute course on how to exercise and if you're doing it right you have a little
bank card and as you're going around you're earning money as you do that and then you can
can either buy things at the end or you can pay for other experiences that costs like
chocolate making or yogurt making or something like that.
Conceptually, I don't hate it.
It's not the most exciting time in the world, but it's something different, you know?
I know Julie's been a couple times.
Now, you guys did bring your kids, right?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
We just went, we just said me and T.C. went.
So capitalism land.
Yeah, we wanted to see the Spotify podcast studio.
Yeah, it's 100% yes.
I mean, if you want to call it that.
Were you in the middle like food court area, there was like one of those things,
like on the ground it would say other Kidsania locations and then what direction they were in
and how many miles away?
Were you reading the other Kidsanias?
No.
The first one that I came upon was Jetta Saudi Arabia Kizania.
Okay.
This tracks.
No way.
There's a Costa Rica, Kidsania.
I don't know.
Something about, like.
It's got to be for expats.
It's also the, I wanted to know how it works that the companies get in.
Because I could imagine that there's some like worldwide sales rep for Kizania that's talking to the head of Spotify.
Yes.
It's getting this done.
But there was also the WFA one.
And there was like an ABC pest control.
So fake ones.
Yeah.
Well, but that's a real company, but it's a local company, I think.
Okay, maybe you're right, because I feel like some of the companies were fake.
Some of them might have been, but some of them, the thing I'm saying is just like,
they're also has to be-
Yeah, yeah.
And like, how does all this work?
Also, you know, you guys are doing great with selling advertising, but like, it's not
the easiest thing in the world.
And could you imagine, like, cold calling someone and being like, all right, so I got a city
for kids. And I need you to give me money so that I can put your logo. But you're grooming these kids for in
the future. They're going to, they're going to remember ABC pest control. Don't you encounter people
being like, that might work for us, but it's not something we normally do. It's outside of what like,
like we got a line item in the budget for TV ads that we're going to buy. Right. No. And when we
do that kind of thing, it's like, look, we have people that if you put this money towards it,
you're likely going to get that money back.
Can Kid Zania say that?
I mean, maybe not, but a lot of these companies, they don't care,
and it's not costing them that much.
For example, Colgate has a dental clinic there.
They're not paying much for that.
Can we find out how to get our name on, like,
how much would it cost on the podcast studio?
That's honestly what I was thinking.
You get some sort of affiliation.
I mean, WFAA pays something.
Yeah.
There's an influencer studio.
there on the list of jobs.
And that's separate from the media center,
which is separate from the TV studio.
I did think that the questionable massage place
was a weird choice to put in a kid.
No vivid studio?
Yeah, no, I don't think our one o'clock guest, Israel Luna,
from...
Yeah, I thought it was bad they let him open.
Yeah.
For kids.
For kids.
They have like a police.
police station in there.
We can go around and solve crime.
You know, something.
There's your review.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
I don't know right home about, but...
My kid was more tired and, you know, ready for bed than when I got there.
I got a massive dub in the chat yesterday as my wife went to a wedding without me.
She didn't even ask me either.
Yo.
Wow.
I've been putting in work.
Who was getting married?
Someone from her book club,
which we had a bunch of book club people over on Friday.
We had a pool party on Friday.
Shout out puddle pools.
And then, you know, this guy was like,
hey, why aren't you going to the wedding on Sunday?
I'm like, shut, fuck.
I'm chill, bro.
Yeah.
Draw attention to anything.
I don't know why I'm not going.
I just know I'm not.
Yeah.
Well, I can work.
Leave me out of it.
My wife's going on a trip, too.
That could be in our way.
weekend check.
If she goes on this trip, gets in a horrible accident, I would like her to call
Frankel and Frankel, though.
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Frankl and Frankel, a great story.
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I think it's an incredible story, don't you?
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They didn't sit and say, hey, let's, not that they don't make a profit, but they didn't,
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They actually might have done that.
And then they were like, boy, this kind of sucks.
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So, yeah, my wife works for the school.
She's not a teacher, but she works for a school.
And she's now home for good.
I mean, home for the summer.
But as this happened this morning, like are there other people out there who work from home?
Because ostensibly I work from home, right?
We work from home.
We drive into the studio to do the show, but I'm getting ready at home.
I got your routine.
I have my own space.
Where she all of a sudden was there this morning.
Up in my, oh, you're up above the garage.
This is interesting.
I didn't know that was allowed.
Well, the lock ran out of battery.
So I do have a lock on my room above the garage.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't have the same setup you have as far as like even a real partition.
It's above the garage.
But so what I do is the second she even emerges, I just like really stare at her.
Like I guess you must really need something up here.
But we had important issues.
We did have her.
you know, charging cable needed.
Shut up.
There's nothing.
She also wanted to talk about a trip she was going to plan.
So now I'm happy yet like she's going to go visit her mom,
but then possibly visit my daughter who's going to be in New York and all this kind of stuff.
But you're having to hear about it.
No, and this is Monday morning at 8.30 a.m. or 9 a.m.
And I said, we've had all weekend to get, like, I've,
been nothing but around all weekend long we've had all this time that's an interesting point
and that's uh but no she like at no point this weekend but now it's a yeah but i have to schedule
this today because of this other i'm supposed to she's going to go to somebody's wedding or whatever
uh and i'm like yeah like i say i i don't need the uh this is bad that this is your last minute that
you have to do this.
But anyway, we're having fun.
So my daughter is home from college.
And so I do some daughter things with her, which we like to do together.
We went to half-price books, which seems like a scam.
As I load up all these two crates of books and they got $7.40.
Yeah, I mean.
But what am I going to do?
You got to pay that AC bill somehow.
Do they sell books for cheaper than most other places?
Yes.
Well, then that's the thing, right?
I mean, they're just baking your discount.
I wouldn't say it's half of the price.
It's one of the funniest things Junior Miller ever did.
For me, it just started singing the song,
because it's a big sale at half price books, $4.00, what was the whole jingle?
Yeah, the really big sale at half price books.
It's a big sale at half price books.
books, $8 books for just four bucks, $4 books for just two bucks.
Just keep going.
But I guess what I'm saying is they bake the discount into giving you a lower price
to incentivize you to buy the book there.
Spend the money there, right?
I mean, it's like everything else.
They're going to give you as little money as they think that they can get away with.
Like they're looking at you saying, I don't hear there's a quarter price books down
the road that'll give you more.
Yeah, no, I want to stand outside and be like, go,
get the estimate. I'll pay you 50 cents
more. Yeah. Try it. See where that gets you.
And I'll sell those then along with my
forever stamps.
Joe Frito.
Okay, so we did
like, you know that's one of our common
things is we'll go to half-price books, chans,
and then and the Andes. So we did that last night actually.
Is there a South Lake Half-Price or you go to the
flagship? Harwood.
Okay. We go down to Harwood.
Anyway, yeah.
Where, and then she even remarked, she didn't follow it up with anything, but as we drove on Chisholm Trail, she's like, oh, we're on Chisholm Trail.
And I was like, she wasn't trying to do comedy or anything.
She was just mentioning it.
But it's hard.
I've ruined that.
Did she know that you had?
Yeah, no, that's on the list big time.
You guys, you and Blake are like, you've ruined these certain words for me, and I believe that's now one of them.
Because I ruined it for myself.
Living my whole life.
You chisham trail, uh, part.
camp, all these things.
I'm sorry that you're not creative.
I'm not.
I'm not.
But, so it's her birthday coming up.
Happy birthday.
And so we had to have her birthday dinner over the weekend, which she chose Habachi.
Now, I did a full segment last year.
I don't need to do his full segment, but I did notice at this particular herbachi,
I don't think this is everywhere, but we now pay extra for fried rice?
I thought it's just part of the bit.
It's already like 30 bucks for the shrimp or 28 or whatever it is, right?
They want you to just eat the white rice?
But I've never before had a question.
Like you always had to say, hey, wait, actually I don't want that fried rice.
Can you just give me a side of white rice?
Right.
That's just part of the deal.
They've now pulled that out of the deal.
So when they're doing the bit, she's like, oh, you want shrimp to hibachi?
Do you want fried rice?
I go, what do you mean?
I go, I just want the rice like they do it.
So you want it fried?
And my daughter's like, yeah, you want it fried?
You want it?
I go, okay, yeah, I want it fried.
And she's like, all right.
And it was an extra $3.25 or something on the check.
Did we know that?
Has, have they just figured this out?
Also, I can't eat fried rice, so I can't help you.
What?
I had the chef doing his bits.
But you ever at hibachi and you see two tables,
down. It'd be like if you went to an NBA game and you're like, you're just watching the
Hawks, but then on the other court, and you could see it, you could see Michael Jordan.
You got out, Habochi. That guy was great. The whole table's going nuts.
He's got a thing. It's this big party. And then our guy is pretty spare. And he's kind of
doing the bits, but he's not putting his heart into it. And like he got rice. And I think he's
probably from Hearst. So I don't, I feel like his accent. He was.
throwing on was all fake.
And we did Rice, Rice, Rice, Baby.
Maybe he's going to celebrate America's 250th as well.
Did you guys see that...
Vanilla Ice pulled out?
No, the vanilla ice is like the name.
Oh, okay, Billy Vanilly.
It's down to just him.
Okay.
At least as far as the America 250 news I saw, he's the name so far, like the biggest name.
Trump said he might get up there and take over.
Okay.
Maybe we can get John Hink.
He'll play some music there.
Habachi chef,
very sad to sit there with my daughter,
as this is such a male-dominated field.
She can at least watch an NFL game
and dream to be the back judge.
But we walk into a hibachi restaurant.
Which are going to be a shrimp?
Right.
There's no choices.
Her only, yeah, it's a sad thing to do.
That's a great point.
And usually you let the ladies cook.
This is one of the things we traditionally allow them.
He's watching the final Saturday night.
And we saw, wife was passively watching and there's a, I don't know what medicine it is,
but there's like three female firefighters in the commercial.
She was like, how many are there?
I've never seen three in my life.
I think Jimmy said they do have one.
Right.
In DFW.
Yeah, but like in this commercial to show that they couldn't just do one.
And it's like, well, can we call someone else?
My house is on fire.
This team is half female firefighters.
It's like Ghostbusters.
Like Ghostbusters.
And then I noted, you know, you like to look at other people.
Sometimes it's a couple, older guy, younger woman.
You're like, is it a daughter or secretary or whatever?
But I noted a young chapie right next to us as well.
Two young boys, but he's alone.
He's probably in his 30s.
but they're enjoying, like, that'd be a perfect thing for a young chappie to do, right?
Oh my gosh.
Because they went to habachi and now you're going to go home and mom's going to cook every night for five nights.
Oh, yeah.
But we got to go to habachi and we went to whatever.
They're flipping the shrimp.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Cici's is Divorce Dad's Central.
Now Monday is she throws the slop onto your plate, probably a very healthy, sensible meal.
Right, that you have to eat.
Right.
She'll yell at you, which is just the job.
I was thinking like, what a life.
Could you imagine being a divorced dad?
Because I love the kids and I love, like,
and most of my time with the kids was on the weekend because I'm working during the week.
Could you imagine just swooping in and doing that every week?
Yeah.
Now you're going to have.
And just tagging whatever you want on the side like during the week.
And also.
During the week, you want to take someone home, you can.
You can hook up.
You can do whatever.
Hey, you know, I got kids.
I'm, you know, I'm a caring type guy.
Yes.
They're going to, they're going to love you.
you for that.
Yeah, dog, no.
Like, you know what ladies now are like, no, you're married?
Like, I could be like, sure.
Actually.
That's what's holding you up now.
Yeah.
I think, uh, I think as long as you're okay with having to deal with like a minor PR
campaign against your character from the other side, which maybe you're going to deal
with either way if you're married.
Like your dad moving a couple towns away, that's an effective solution.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He didn't do it until later because, like, we still, I don't know, he was very committed to the bit, you know.
He would move away and then come up every other weekend.
And then we would just stay at like my grandparents' house or something.
And so, but yeah, the point is he was, he was creating some separation.
The fact that there's some people in North Washington Hills that hate you isn't really doing much to your life.
No, it's a good point.
Have we just.
Vilified divorce?
But have we given ladies the win over the years?
and they think they have a W.
Like, I won custody of my children.
Oh.
No.
Damn it.
That judge, dirty dog.
I curse the name of the...
Would love to have them every night.
Sir, actually, we...
Yeah.
And then, so...
One more thing I'm going to mention,
and I would like to do more on this tomorrow.
Because I went with my daughter to a movie.
You know, in the Spotify studio,
at Kid Zaney, it said tease the next episode.
Nuh.
100%.
Did it really?
Yes, there's a list of things to do in a podcast.
I'm like, we miss that one pretty often.
We don't do that one.
I hadn't done that one in 10 years.
It's just all the broadcast list.
It would mean a lot if you guys would like and subscribe.
That's true.
You saw a movie.
Saw a movie.
Backroom.
I've seen chatter.
That's a kid in town movie.
Yeah, but I'm really happy I went.
It's good?
I don't know.
All right.
Makes you think a lot.
It's really weird.
It's horror.
And that's her thing.
I guess you can call it horror.
Directed by a 20-year-old.
Damn.
And I want to get more, like I said,
I want to get more into it tomorrow.
but it brought in
118 million, I think, globally.
81 million
domestically in its opening weekend.
And I'm not sure if it kicked the new Star Wars ass,
but I mean, Star Wars is still doing well, but...
You're going to have to do way more on this, dude.
Between that and obsession,
I think, I'm noticing that
movies that advertise a ton on TikTok seem...
It seems to be working.
Well, this is more than...
that. Maybe that's about what Dan's about to tell us.
Well, I want to, like, we're going to do way more tomorrow.
Like you said.
We don't have time for this today, but it's, things are changing.
It's a new paradigm, boys.
Yeah, the stuff where it's every ad as I'm scrolling, it feels like all of those have hit.
Okay.
And, oh, well, actually, my next note, I'll leave in sports, because we're about
do sports right now.
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Feels like the basketball season's over.
It is.
First up, I just want to say happy Pride Month, boys.
I don't know this because I saw these St. Louis Cardinals
wish me a happy Pride Month,
and the Philadelphia Phillies
wished a happy Pride month.
I have not looked at the Rangers
You don't need to.
Twitter handle yet, but they may end up doing that.
I think they're going to put like a Bruno Hammock-style thing on that Texas Ranger statue out there.
Are the Cowboys relieved they play in the fall?
That they don't have to deal with Pride Month?
Do you imagine that they would do a bunch to celebrate?
Probably.
Look, any corporation, as you know.
they don't care.
The Phillies don't care.
But they have viewed this as a, what is the better,
what is the more profitable thing for us to do in the long run?
Because if they thought a Pride Month tweet would hurt attendance,
they would not do a Pride Month tweet.
They think it's probably either level or it might go up a little bit.
Maybe a couple of gay people will come to a game.
And we like gay money.
Gay money spends.
Republicans wear sneakers too.
You couldn't convince the Rangers that it would be a net positive, though.
No matter how many business statistics you should.
True.
Some might.
They're just like, yeah.
They actually might take that.
Yeah.
We're not doing that.
But, yeah, I think the Cowboys would probably do what everybody else does.
If the NFL, it would be funny.
Yeah.
If it fell during football season.
No, but yeah, the baseball, the NBA season,
there was a moment maybe halfway through the second quarter of that game Saturday,
night where I forgot that not only was it not the finals, but that it was the second quarter
because that's how intense that game was at certain stretches of it. It was awesome.
It really was. The NBA's incredible theater. I thought the Toriko is great. I don't know,
begrudgingly. I know he's got a weird pass. He's probably an insufferable human being,
but I think he's good on NBA games. I don't mind Reggie Miller and Jamal Cry. I just felt like,
Come on.
I didn't mind it.
It felt like, to me, it just felt good.
It did feel amazingly good.
Reggie Miller.
Reggie Miller sucks.
Reggie Miller is terrible.
And the thing that especially bothered me and I thought that I would have an audience with Dan about this was every single thing that would happen.
They would just say whether it was experience or not experience.
Like when he misses a single shot, they're like, never played in the game seven.
Then he does make all kinds of shots, no mention of it again.
But then SGA makes a shot.
He knows game seven.
You know what I love is what about this third level play of dare too inexperienced to be nervous about this?
Absolutely, you can throw that on.
That's kind of like momentum, right?
Yeah, afterwards.
For sure.
Deerrin Fox has played in one a single time.
He would make a basket.
They'd be like, salty old dog.
He knows.
It was one game, and they lost.
He's too young to know that he's not supposed to be winning this game.
Right.
But it was so intense, man.
It was so intense.
I don't care if the Thunder
without their second best player.
I've been a Mavs fan for long enough
to have dealt with so much bullshit
when it comes to...
Yeah, I guess I thought your MVP
should be able to cover that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what you'd hear here.
That was an amazing aspect of the game
is just the stories of these players in this game.
Like, this is going to be one of the defining things.
Like, it absolutely,
SGA has just thought of totally differently
10 years from now if he's got back-to-back titles versus, you know, can't even string two together?
Yes, but, and maybe this is more granular, I think he would have gone down much more poorly in that 10-year retrospective if he had a poor game seven.
He bawled so hard and Chet sucked so bad.
He's not Chet.
That in the future, people won't, it won't be like when LeBron lost to the Mavs.
He had a bad series, but he saved the best arguably for the seventh game.
and so I think people will remember. Plus, you know, they're not going anywhere.
I try really hard not to think about Luca because I definitely had a thing in my head.
Once you saw the Spurs get Wimby, once you knew, I mean, heck, maybe SGA is the most unlikely thing in the Thunder's whole bit.
But you knew they were going to be good.
Yeah.
It felt like still Luca at his peak would be the best player of all of them.
I mean, we watched him beat the Thunder.
True.
And I mean, they're going to, you know, keep getting best.
better, but I just, the wimby thing, like, it feels like Luca kind of has the ability to work
with that, whereas, like, obviously Chet doesn't, which is an unfortunate thing. I was texting
a couple people about this weekend, like, I don't think Chad is a likable guy at all.
What? You used to love Chet. I like watching him play basketball, and I actually do still like
him. I said I don't think he's a likable guy. I think I get why a lot of people don't like him.
He seems to really lean into a black, a black scent that I don't know where it came from.
Like, they'll ask him his favorite food.
And he's like, you know, cornbread and oxtails.
It's like, how did that happen?
How did-
Because he plays a rural Washington lifestyle.
It's possible, but I also think he's a fun player to watch play.
However, it is an absolute curse that a guy with that unique of a body,
talent and playing style
that there's another guy
with everything he has just turned up
a little bit more at the exact
same time he's in the league.
Right.
Like that is.
And since Chet's not the best,
you hate whenever a guy who's
the best player on one team is a tall guy
when his counterpart on the other team
is good but not great.
Because if the counterpart of the other team sucks,
they're just supposed to be there
to get in the way and take minutes.
if they're great, you know, it's like maybe they can do something.
He has no chance.
They're not in the same universe when the playoffs start.
Like, Chet's a third team all-NBA player.
Look what Wimby did to him the other night.
I mean, he might as well have been Brian Cardinal out there in the finals, right?
He just made him look like any other guy.
So I was hearing some stuff like he also hates him from like when they were young.
I don't know how real it is, but it doesn't look like Wembe forgets.
You know, they definitely have been matched up in international games.
Yeah.
Do you guys want me to break in with breaking news or is this a podcast and we don't care about?
Well, we are going live to tape.
Yeah, yeah.
Miles Garrett's been traded to the Rams.
Damn.
Von Miller move, huh?
What are we giving up?
We, the Rams.
Jared Verse, 2027 first rounder and other draft compensation.
Wow.
So they got McDuffie.
and Miles Garrett.
Back to game seven.
No, that's...
No, no.
Okay.
This is a...
Damn, you gotta love being a Rams fan, I would guess, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
Just constantly going for it.
And, Charles Garrett is a lot of fun.
But constantly, though.
Yeah.
They're constantly like, look, we got a little...
Stafford's not got too much time.
We got a tiny Stafford window.
Let's go.
Mm-hmm.
Let's go after it right now.
Like, what does every other team do?
So, not that...
What do the Cowboys do?
Not this.
Jared Verst was there at Rams'
19th overall pick in
24. He was the defensive
rookie of the year in 24. He pro-bowled
in 25. He had a good
year, so going into his third
year, they're like, we'd rather
just have a guy who's the realist
of real deal right now.
We don't think we want to... That's crazy.
The Super Bowl is back in
L.A. this season.
Oh, really? Yeah.
Interesting.
Damn.
Interesting.
Because I know there was
you know, I follow all the Cleveland stuff, and that's been big talk, but I just figured it was
big talk last year, too.
Yeah.
And then he signed, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was him.
It was last off season that he signed another big deal.
By the way, I doing a quick look at NFL Twitter here, I don't know, we're fools.
Obviously, the NFL doesn't play during Pride Month, but social media is year-round.
Plenty of teams are wishing happy Pride Months right now.
I'm sure they do.
And the Cowboys are not one of them yet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but...
I'll bet the Cowboys will.
See, I feel like Charlotte always kind of has a weird ear to the, like, queer streets.
I've heard her talk about it before, like about all people we love, you know.
Because, you know, she's in the world of dance.
Right, right.
Yeah.
It's like, what are you going to do?
They do have a tweet for Pacific Islander Heritage Month.
Shout out Marist.
That's exactly what it is.
That's their most recent tweet.
Is that June?
I don't know.
It was shared in May 31st.
Oh, wow.
That's even worse that they deadlineed.
Sorry.
By the way, I forgot about the...
Get this in here.
So, I don't know how much time you want to spend on game seven.
We have some other stuff to get to today.
It was awesome.
It was great basketball.
I thought this little bit from the end was interesting.
Everybody was talking about Wimby's emotion.
This kind of became a talking point, a little bit of a flashpoint.
I thought it was cool.
I'm a really emotional guy.
But the Jordan emotion, you could see it because he had been climbing, climbing, climbing,
and right?
And then you get the Wembe emotion.
Well, what I would say is you contrast it with Dirk,
when Dirk won the Western Conference Finals the second time and didn't even want to go to the podium.
Yeah.
I mean, those guys were winning at the same round.
And last, if you had just flipped on Wimby's celebration,
you would have thought they just won a title.
Right.
It was crazy.
And that's how the game felt.
So maybe it made sense.
But I don't know.
I have no problem with it.
I'd rather do that, see that than athletes that are so too cool for school
that they don't want to get, you know,
memes or made fun of.
Does that make you, do you play into the, well, they won their title there?
I'm going to favor the Knicks now.
I might.
even if you wanted to get away from the subjective and just go with like the body blow theory
you know the old SEC you look at seven games I mean uh but they have wimby so it's just tough to
and the nicks are just sweeping people now and anobie's largely thought of as like the best
option against wimby but i don't know how much sample size you've got there i just can't wait
for the live streams outside of msg after the games those are fun it's so much fun what do you mean
Where do they got going?
People will go live.
Just it's New York.
So like, far from everyone inside that has a ticket, like the entire city descends on the couple blocks around.
People are climbing telephone poles, just going insane.
And now people can just stream.
Every content creator in the world lives in New York.
So they're like all down there doing stuff.
Did you watch Marty Supreme?
No.
One of the main actors in Marty Supreme was just a guy that, like, gave a phone.
funny interview whenever the Knicks were playing the Hawks and the playoffs.
It's just a big cultural event.
This is where.
This is where.
Have you happened to,
you know,
one of your trips to a Stars game this year,
I'm sure you heard this,
but maybe you heard it elsewhere.
The phrase bang bong.
Yeah.
Oh, it's that guy?
It comes from that.
They're hanging out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Side-talk, NYC is down at the.
They're familiar with Bing.
Correct.
Yeah.
This is from the post game.
This is the product of having to be on a seven-second delay, but check this out.
I'm absolutely loving the emotion here by Wimby.
Ashley Shamedy.
Julian.
Game seven against the defending champs in their building.
What allowed you to meet the moment and win this game?
Man, we got a good team.
Great team, if you will.
We just, you know, stay in the course, playing a good game.
emotions are high what are the emotions say about your team say again what are the emotions say about this
group we love this man we love it we love this you know we come ahead every day we bust our eyes
and we want to play we want to win so we're out here doing the thing juliam big players
you see what's about to happen here is now his teammates have entered
in the next 30 seconds of audio or just chopped to reversed and screwed kind of sounds like the
ticket stream glitching but they don't cut away from it everyone to play we want to win
So we're out here doing the thing.
Julian big players.
What, everybody's swearing?
How did you find the biggest shots in this game seven?
How crazy does that sound?
How did you find the biggest shots in this game seven?
We passing the ball.
We're playing together with the team.
We all trust each other.
We'll love each other.
So, you know, coming out here, they're all to pass the ball and play together.
And I'm going to be a game of the Asian ship.
Is this what you envision?
We didn't know what I would tell us out.
We want to make the playoffs.
They can't go.
They just stick with it.
It just sounds backward mass.
What a difficult job she has.
Because every question I think is horrible.
There's no, yeah.
But then I don't know what I would ask to make it better.
Yeah.
Like, why are we doing this?
I guess you just want to let's get in and see their mentality, which almost makes it.
Like maybe hand the mic to Dremont.
hand the mic to a player with the team and say, hey.
I think it's kind of cool to hear guys, you know, emotional.
Yeah, yeah, but it's the question to ask, be emotional.
What do your emotions say about how emotional you guys are on this emotional journey?
What was it like?
Yeah, things happen.
Julian, congratulations.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
Mom, how you doing?
First of all.
Shout out the whole.
Fam, Champetti.
Shut out the whole fan.
Hi, Sarah.
I'm so hip.
Oh, Sarah Heppel is here.
It's true.
Hi.
Hi, guys.
What's your take on sideline reporters?
Oh, it's got to be the worst.
You know what it reminds me of?
Have you ever done how to do red carpet interviews?
A bunch of times.
But it does look brutal.
They're impossible.
What are you wearing?
Oh.
So, like, that's, yeah, like, that's what you're supposed to ask them.
Right.
I think we're actually asking me.
Who are you wearing?
Man, the bar for Dan is so.
I know.
Who are you wearing?
Suspect.
Yeah, yeah.
I should have said, who are you wearing?
Yeah, not what are you wearing.
Who are you wearing?
I'm standing in front of you.
I could see what you're wearing.
Yeah.
There's nothing good to ask somebody in that situation that just has to go down the line of 10 different strangers
asking them questions for two minutes.
When's game one?
Wednesday.
Wednesday. Okay, so we have time to get...
I'm pretty interested in the whole...
San Antonio Titties?
No, I'm aware of those, but...
You're aware of those?
I know, I don't...
The Spurs in San Antonio, they're advancing throughout the finals.
I do know this.
There were a couple of women who are, I guess, well-endowed,
and they have been sitting right behind the Spurs bench
just to help the team.
I support that.
Interactive on social media.
You don't get the alert.
In the club.
Casting call?
I did not get that.
I haven't seen that on any of the Tulsa King.
I feel calling.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Would you accept a pair of, like, court side seats?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm going to bring the milksheds to...
Wow.
She's familiar with the vernacular of the listener.
It's a creative term.
I think she would at least.
to respect that.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd never heard it before.
No.
None of us.
None of us had.
On me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And DFW.
Yeah.
But I'd like to, I am very interested.
So we'll, we have plenty of time to get into it tomorrow and whatever.
Just the fact that the NBA final, like teams can get to the NBA finals now.
Eight straight now.
Yeah.
It'll be eight straight different.
And in the last four years, eight different teams, I believe.
That's wild.
have been opposing each other.
Yeah.
So I do think that it sucks that the lottery change is happening now
because two teams that I hate figured it out before they changed the lottery.
I mean, I don't really hate Spurs like I probably should,
but it's going to be hard to get good now.
I know, but dude, it just never landed for me like it did for the Rockets.
And I've hated the Thunder from day one.
Just the most obnoxious fans.
And who was a bigger?
San Antonio?
I don't know, man.
They're firing off crazy-ass rockets and,
fireworks after every game.
All the ones that you run into
are just the worst people on Earth.
And who ended
more Dirk playoff runs than the Spurs?
How do you not
care about this? I care. I just
don't care as much as I probably should.
I never hated them like I should.
They're lovable.
I have a sports topic for
Sarah. Oh, okay.
Which is, are you following it? Because I'm
also following this person named
Chrissy Freud. She's
the one that got fired from USA today.
Yeah.
She was just a contributor, but I guess they just didn't let her contribute anymore.
She was a freelancer.
Got fired for what?
For saying some things about like that, hey, we all knew that Diana Rusini was nailing
Mike Vrable all these years.
Wow.
And you'd be surprised at how much more of that is going on.
And I guess she's putting out names.
dropping different coach's names.
She's saying a lot of things that people inside the industry all know
and generally don't care about like,
oh, this coach, have you ever thought maybe she's sleeping with him?
I've heard it.
There was a high-profile reporter that got busted for this a few months ago.
Who was that?
That's what we're into right now, yeah.
This is a reporter who's she got fired for talking about the high-profile one.
Okay.
That is Diana Rusini,
who was with the athletic at the time,
but had been with ESPN prior, right?
And there's pictures of her with Belichick, is that right?
With Mike Frable.
She's way too old for Bill Belichick.
Okay, okay.
Right, it's Rable.
Okay.
This lady was like, oh, you know,
if you only knew, you know,
kind of implying like that Lucini's a slut for the,
that's how she got there.
And there's all this sorts of sex going on between cooks.
coaches and reporters.
It's like, yeah, dummy, everybody knows.
So on one hand, it's like, you know, we do say, who cares, right?
Do you live your life, do whatever you want.
You want to, I don't care that you're cheating on your wife or husband or whatever.
That's all, it's all fine.
The question then is, though, is this journalistic integrity?
No.
And did any, you know, did anything lines get crossed there, especially if she has a vote for like Coach of the Year?
or if things that she tweets out could actually influence the league in helping his team get better,
like by trading for a player or not trading for a player or whatever,
believing that there's interest in a certain player when there's not.
Did you see the clip that someone dug up of her saying that he was mad about a story?
No.
She was being asked, you know, well before this, like, has someone ever gotten mad at you about something you published?
And she was like, oh, yeah, Mike Rable called me up.
he was furious, you know?
And so clearly indicating that, like, he's weighing in on,
it's like, is there another time that he was really furious,
so you didn't publish it?
Yeah.
I think it's just kind of how it is.
Yeah, and did that, did getting mad affect the future?
Yeah.
Reporting.
Yeah.
Just knowing that, I mean, I guess.
And did you have makeup sex after that fight?
Yeah, that's the question.
You know that, like, a source in a reporter,
there's some exchange, you know,
there's some conversation happening there,
But I don't know, man.
Yeah, it seems like a lot of manipulation possible.
But at the end of the day, like I say, it just happens.
It happens in politics.
It happens in sports.
It happens in people covering business.
Just whatever workplace you're in.
Yeah.
People bone.
People bone.
And this lady, but, you know, I don't know, respect to her.
And is this different than the RFK reporter, right?
Is that like because the stakes are different?
So with Olivia Nuzzi.
she was a reporter for New York for New York Magazine.
And, you know, I think one of the things that went a little bit far afield with that
was that there was some suggestion, at least through the substack that Ryan Liza,
her ex did, that she was involved in helping the RFK campaign,
which is where I think that one went a little bit wild.
And politics to me seems so much more high stakes.
Yeah.
And buttoned up
than what I expect from the world of sports.
I'm not prepared to grant that.
Okay.
It is not.
It's not as high stakes.
No.
I think he wins the Super Bowl.
It's the biggest game.
No, I think it's more high stakes.
I just don't know if it's as buttoned up as it probably should be.
I'm not saying it's, you know,
what's more important and throwing shade on sports in that way.
I'm talking about sort of like the kind of...
What you expect, maybe this is a bad example with our current president,
but what you expect from a president might not be what you expect from a football player.
Sure.
No, there's something to this.
The scrutiny is different.
And that's why, what's funny, this woman, God bless her, she's trying to have a moment.
The new lady, the Chrissy?
She's not got much going on.
And she's trying to be like, and nobody, it's like a tree falls.
Everybody knows this stuff happens.
My brother worked in New Orleans for quite some.
time, right? Like these rumors are out there. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Can I clarify something
about Chrissy though? When she said, this is no big deal. So-and-so's sleeping with so-and-so,
everybody knew it. Was the so-and-so example that she used already a known thing? It's not like
she threw somebody under the bus that nobody knew was sleeping. She's not saying it's no big
deal. She's just saying this does happy. Yeah. I'm just asking. She's saying it's a very big deal.
She's implying that she has more that she has not revealed. She's saying that she knows about one.
So many bombs.
But the one that she talked about was the one that was already on record.
That's what I needed to know.
Yes.
She has not released any names that no one knew about.
Okay.
And she got, what, sanctioned for saying that?
Yeah, she was an NFL writer for USA Today.
And USA Today says you're not going to be an NFL writer anymore.
Yeah, a freelance.
Not for us.
We're not hiring you anymore.
That's kind of a dick move on USA Today's part.
I mean, they don't need to say anything because she's not a staffer.
Well, they didn't really say anything.
She said, hey, they just find.
Nothing to her of like, yeah, we're not.
She's like, I got fired.
So that's where she's trying to use this as her moment.
The whole media apparatus, to Chrissy's credit, did react very weird to this story.
Yes.
Like, I still don't really know.
Like, ESPN wouldn't touch it for a few days.
It was, like, obviously it's because the NFL is in charge of, I don't know, everything.
Yeah.
And I don't know if the NFL wasn't sure how they wanted to handle it, but like barstool employees were getting.
memos of like, let's just be chill about how we talk about this. So she got swept up in some other
thing that's bigger than her. I don't know. But yeah. I don't really understand why they
appeared to treat it as weirdly as they did. But they definitely really wanted to suppress the
discussion of this story as much as they could, which like then what's the story behind that? Like,
what is the thing that they're hoping that we don't find out?
Like if people keep talking about this,
do you learn about more reporters who are doing more?
I'm just guessing that whatever Chrissy said is correct,
that like actually you don't want the discussion
because what you're going to find is that it's actually super common.
And then it's going to bring into question,
there's going to be difficult conversations about women in sports,
women in journalism,
in male locker rooms.
I mean, a lot of things that people feel like we've gotten over
or gotten past.
But it actually, there are kind of difficult questions
about whether or not you should be in those situations together, right?
Yeah, but definitely.
It's in the background of like,
how are we not talking about this?
Right.
What if this wrecks the careers of all kinds of NFL coaches
and the only quality coach left is a man who loves his wife so much
and Brian Schottenheimer easily climbs to the top of the NFL?
Because he's the only coach.
Not my wife guy coach.
Doesn't get fired.
Absolutely.
You have to get rid of every other coach.
He's the top ranked wife guy coach.
Yes, it seems like to me this is kind of a story where if a guy was very publicly outed for one of the players for cheating on his wife,
you would like actually, I got some news for you.
All these players, I know 10 other players that cheat on their wife.
People are like, oh, okay.
Like we all kind of think this is probably happening.
These are real hot, teed-up guys, right?
Yeah.
And generally, the reporters are, right?
You're not hiring some kind of...
Kathy Bates in misery?
You're not hiring a catcher's mitt as a reporter, right?
What does that mean?
A root.
Somebody whose face looks like a catcher's mitt, perhaps?
She doesn't know root.
No go.
Can't you kind of figure out what a root is?
A root?
Yeah.
R-O-O-T?
Yeah.
Like if I said this lady was a root, what would you think?
Oh, wow.
She was short.
Oh, beautiful.
No.
I don't think you would be saying that.
Okay.
If I said she was a flower, you might think, oh, okay, that's something.
Oh, is it roots and flowers?
Is that how we were?
I don't know.
The point is, I'm just saying, we're just trying not to say the word ugly because that's an ugly word.
Right, but you said rude.
I didn't want her to be confused.
I figured she'd figure it out.
I'm just trying to hang.
I was incorrect.
No.
Thinking that she could figure that out.
Could not.
Because I forgot.
We're not hiring roots.
About the whole cranium size difference.
Right.
Wow.
Wow.
Look, my daughter's in town, so I'm used to...
You could say that?
Putting down women?
Yeah.
No, yeah, because we joke like that.
She thinks it's hilarious.
That's my N-word.
Wow.
Okay, yeah.
So...
I can do that.
I have two girls.
You think the athlete...
I can say whatever I want.
No big deal.
Chrissy Ford doesn't have a story, but people do care about this.
Is that what you're saying?
No, no, no.
I'm just saying if we said the athlete's cheering, that's how people are kind of acting.
Yeah.
Like, it's just all the coaches are just former athletes.
But the only thing is that, yes, is there some kind of an award?
Did she influence anything else?
Because money can be tied to that.
Do people really care?
Things really matter is money.
About the journalistic ethics of women that ask.
questions like how was your game like here's why they do and this is a very hard thing to try to
explain but there's accusations that she's basically trying to get a player traded from one team to
another team with her reporting so she's she's saying like hey this guy's not happy he's not happy
is he really unhappy we don't know maybe a little bit but she'll overplay like this guy wants out of this
town and then the player's like, I don't know where this is coming from.
And they think that he is trying, she is trying to get that player traded from one team
to her boyfriend's team in one such case.
That is a theory.
Yeah.
Wasn't there stuff around?
Do you find it persuasive?
No, I don't know that I find it persuasive.
I think that she's a reporter who reports drama.
Yeah.
And sometimes, I don't really believe in like Freudian slips.
Okay.
Because I believe that you're just typing stuff incorrectly enough that you remember the times where it says tits instead of tots.
So I think she reports drama all the time and it just happened to line up this time that it's a guy she's having sex with also.
I don't think she's intentionally trying to do his bidding or anything, but that is the accusation.
She stirs drama as part of her.
She's an insider report.
These players are messy.
There's a lot of stuff that goes on.
AJ Brown, the player in question,
has tries to act like, no,
I don't even know why anybody would ever say
that I'm unhappy here and I want to be traded.
Meanwhile, during games,
he's on the bench reading books about leadership.
Like, performatively trying to show you, like, I'm not.
It's insane.
So she's doing her job.
I just think that if any of this is out there,
it opens up the question.
Like, you just can't have the appearance of impropriety.
Like, you don't want people wondering
if whether or not she's trying to manipulate things
to benefit this secret relationship she's having.
It's also disturbing how long it appears to have been going on.
It's just a lot, dude.
If they had a one-off thing, like whatever.
Doesn't it seem like they've said it's going on since before the birth of her kid?
Yeah, oh yeah.
How long is that?
Like five, six years?
Yeah, there's video of them renting a boat together while she was proud.
It's super common name.
Anybody could use the name, but her son's name is Mike.
Oh, my gosh.
And he's Mike Vabro.
Yeah.
Wait, okay.
The photos of them on the boat, she was pregnant.
Oh, wow.
Remind me, is he married?
Yes.
Still.
Yeah, he took time off from the NFL draft this year for marriage therapy.
Boner therapy.
Yeah, he did.
And had to really assess why he was getting these boners.
Yeah.
And she's just disappeared.
She's still married.
In fact, she's married to like a guy in the C-suite at Shake Shack.
So he's no small fry, as it were.
He's like a rich, rich dude.
And she's just like, uh, but it's a very exciting story.
How would you guys feel if your wife was caught in pictures with Mike Raeball?
Oh my gosh, that'd be great.
The first thing you'd have to do, the first thing you'd have to do is be honest with yourself.
I was stunned how many people when this story came out were like, maybe, who knows, we'll have to see what it is.
No, no, no.
You immediately are like, they're fucking.
And probably in ways that you've never done before.
And she's making sounds you've never made her make.
So just assume that before you decide what you're going to do next.
Okay.
Exactly.
You know, on one extreme here, you have like, I don't know, EA, like a guy who's like a part-time employee at the ticket, right?
Like that, it would just really suck if your wife left you for that guy.
Boy, sorry to EA.
Well, and then on the other end, it's Mike Vrable.
And I think it's a classic thing of would you rather, I mean, at some level, this is like the, would you rather your wife leave you for a man or a woman.
Oh, but wouldn't it always be woman?
Woman all day.
Yeah.
It's great.
Yeah.
As you know.
Because there's nothing you could do about it.
And I think that's how you'd feel about my breakball ultimately.
I didn't feel mad at all.
Yeah, it's like.
T.C.'s a flipper.
Yeah, he flipped a lady to ladies.
Oh, nice.
It might even be genetic.
Just hope they're having fun out there.
All right, we need to work in a little break.
We do.
What do you think of that, Sarah?
It's exciting.
The dums are, dunga, dunga.
Whoa, that's a full rainbow all the way.
Double rainbow. Oh my god. It's a double rainbow all the way.
Whoa, that's so intense.
Whoa, man.
Wow.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
Whoa.
It's starting to even look like a triple rainbow.
Oh my God, it's full on.
Double rainbow all the way across this.
God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
You're listening to The Dumb Zone.
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You're the guy that found his contact?
I did.
I think it was just Facebook.
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R.I.P.
Rest the power.
I'm going to be with us.
Um.
Yeah, do you remember how he signed off?
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Smoke pot every day.
Grow your own.
Ha, ha.
It was just like, oh, yeah, also, you know, like we were letting him go.
Legalize it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
That's a double rainbow guy.
Now, to me, the gay community is more than some symbol.
But if that's, you know, all they are to you,
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Yeah, mostly.
I mean, it's money-making opportunity, perhaps.
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She's being a bit coy right now.
She won't commit.
That's been a problem with her.
her whole life.
It's true.
I've got a book coming out about that.
Is it?
What's it called?
It's called the only thing there is to want.
And it's out on September 29th.
Whoa, we got a date?
We got a date.
And we have to figure out when we're going to do the Red Lobster dinner.
Wait, it's called the only thing what?
There is to want.
And what is, what are you alluding to there?
By the book.
You got to read the book.
Oh.
This book.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's this book.
It's meta.
The only thing there is to want is this book.
I've read every book you've written.
You have. You're 100%.
I hope that you will continue that street.
You know I will.
Oh.
Okay. That's all very fun.
And speaking of fun, joining us in studio right now for,
we're going to call this the Discovery Zone.
We're digging a little bit deeper on a news story that we've been dealing with here on the Dumb Zone.
Dallas Police Department, a couple of months ago,
rated a place called Space Studios.
And the owner of Space Studios is Israel Luna, and he is in studio with us now.
Hello, sir.
Hello.
Thanks for having me.
For sure, Israel is here with Aaron Kelly of Aaron Kelly Legal.
You may know her from past sit-ins, from advertising on the Cirque to Soroy Show,
and from being a murder attorney, which is pretty crazy, criminal attorney.
and she said Israel might like to come up and talk about this.
So we first became aware of this story.
Really, when it happened, day of Dallas, Texas TV posted a video of several people outside of a building.
Broad Daylight.
You can see the video is playing here.
It's at Harry Hines and Mniana.
And it's just outside of what looks like a nondescript office building could be a place where they sell, I don't know, thundice.
tax in bulk, like just placing orders for random stuff. And apparently no, this was a meetup
spot of some sort. There's a bunch of dudes outside getting arrested. So we wanted to know more about
the story. Started being reported on. Israel was arrested as part of this. And then he spoke to some
local media. We played that. Now you're here. So kind of tell us what it is on a normal day. If
DPD's not involved, like what your business is, what sort of community you're involved in,
like just what your scene is like?
Yeah, sure.
I am a filmmaker.
I've been a filmmaker since 2000.
And around 2017, I decided to expand my horizons and then get my own studio.
So I had a studio off of 35 in like Regal Row for about a year.
And then I got the place off of Manana Drive.
And so on a regular day, let's see.
We're a production studio, so we have a white infinity wall.
We do photo shoots, we do video shoots.
We have a lot of local film like indie film auditions.
We've had a lot of films being shot there at our warehouse because it's very versatile
to where it can look like this rundown warehouse or it can look like a nightclub.
It can look like a strip club.
And a lot of local filmmakers use our studio for all of those things.
And then we also, more so on the weekends, we have more private events.
for adults.
Okay.
When you say local filmmakers,
does that equal porn?
No, actually.
Okay.
Because I don't,
when you have this one story associated with,
hey, I just had a film studio,
that's where mine went,
my mind went.
Oh yeah, no,
none of the places,
by the way,
that video that you just showed,
I didn't even see anything
for like two days
because I was incarcerated
and I had no communication with the world,
so I had no idea what was being said
or anything.
And then when I came out,
I thought, oh, how convenient.
They don't want to say owner of a production studio.
Everything is this made-up term that they created called, what is it, sexual encounter center?
No one's heard of this before.
It's made up.
It doesn't exist.
Whatever you say on the weekend parties for adults, is that a euphemism?
Well, I mean, it's for consenting adults.
We have a lot of them.
I have my own, but I also have other people that ran out the studio as well for pop-up events.
Yeah. So, and I don't want to get hung up on this part, but when Dan's saying is, does that equal porn? It's not all porn, but it could be, right? Is that what we're saying?
No, no. They're two completely different things. Yeah, yeah. Because when you have, when you have just a private event, it's just a private event. When you do porn, you have to go through this entire process of getting release forms and taking pictures of IDs and et cetera, et cetera.
Testing or something.
Yeah, all of that, that is on another level of consent outside of just doing, you know, just another private event.
You speak as someone who is very knowledgeable about that. Do you have experience in that?
Yeah, ever since COVID. COVID is when I kind of...
You've filmed porn. Yes. Okay. Ever since COVID. God bless COVID. Yeah.
Nothing before then? No. Oh, okay. No, I mean, you know, privately for my own sake.
Okay. But not.
to put out there to make money.
Yeah, okay.
So that's very interesting.
I'd like to know more about how that business works.
But that day that this happened, you were doing one of the events, right?
And they just bust in and you were not a, you know.
Was it a weekend day?
It was like a Friday.
So you're into the party mode.
You were not expecting this.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
I was actually in my office and there was an event that was not mine.
It was someone else who has regular events there.
And so that's when it happened.
And what would that event entail then?
As far as what?
Why would people get arrested for this event?
Well, that's a really great question.
We still don't know, but they chose a very convenient time to do it, which was smack in the middle of it.
It was a private event.
It's called Communion.
It's international.
They're all over the world.
And we just happened to host the Dallas version, I guess.
the Dallas chapter or whatever you want to call it.
It's called communion.
Communion.
Yeah, but I guess the thing is they didn't go in there because people were there.
Like that had nothing to do with the suggested crime, right?
They did it for show.
Oh, absolutely.
Who did it?
Like, DPD knew that there was a big, you know, frankly, probably like gay or like sexual event going on at the time.
Could have gone in any time.
They had issues with what the business was doing.
But, you know, wait until they could arrest 50 people.
Are these events all gay?
Or is it?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Well, pretty like 98% of them are, yes.
Okay.
Yes.
And you're probably right, you know, where they chose, you know, very strategically to find, like, this particular time to do it.
Because even at my studio, I promote it towards my, you know, LGBT community.
And I even have, like, the rainbow flag on one of the windows to let them know that I'm very welcoming.
And I posted everywhere.
I'm very loud about it.
So, yeah.
So when I do know that you had some level of communication with the city prior as far as like, what do I need to do to be good? Like what do I have to do to check the boxes? So what happened in that process? Oh, absolutely. So the ironic thing about when the raid happened was the raid happened while I was texting an architect friend of mine to create a floor plan for all three suites because I had just expanded into a third.
suite because I just started with one suite, expanded to two, and then I was about to expand to the third
one, but the city had requirements and they needed a high-res version of all the floor plans together.
So I was actually texting with an architect friend of mine to create that so we could submit that
to the city because my manager, the company that was managing the studio, the location, were very slow at
getting that to me. And while my friend was creating that is when we got raided. And I bring that up
because they're saying that we didn't do our due diligence to get the proper licensing. Yes, we were.
And yes, we had. But before that, yeah, I had been in communication with the city of Dallas for
about six months telling them or asking them, hey, what type of licensing do we need? Here's the
land usage document. This is what we do here. We have pop-up events. Some of them are content-creating.
some of them are adult events, some of them are, uh, would may require nudity. We might have, uh, yoga classes,
um, life drawing classes with, with nude models. And they said, okay, you will be commercial
amusement. And I even emailed them again saying, okay, I just want to make sure, this is what we do.
Are you sure that we are not a sexually oriented business? And they sent me back an email within
capital letters, a blown up version of the, the, um, definition of, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
SOB sexual oriented business.
And so when they send you that in bold letters and then they say right under it,
you are commercial amusement.
You say, okay, you're the boss.
And that's what we were listed.
So you figured because of your history with dealing with the red tape,
getting to the porn, like there must be something but a little more I got to do here.
So I make sure it's covered so I don't have, get rated.
and have to spend the weekend in jail in the future.
Absolutely.
And I wanted to make sure of that because one of the big things when it comes to,
you know, just adult events like this is everyone wants to know,
are you doing this like, you know, under the table?
Are you doing it?
And it's like, no, I want to be legit.
I want to create an official safe space for my community to keep them from, you know,
having to go out into the woods or video stores and all this stuff.
Let's create a safe space.
And I thought, okay, well, who else to go to except for the city of Dallas to be,
licensed properly because I don't know. I don't know what the categories are or anything.
I'm just following their lead and their guidance and that's what I did.
By the way, I wanted to search, so you said communion Dallas, so as I put that in, I feel like
you spell it differently than you would.
You would be correct.
Yeah, which is great.
Yes, the first syllables is spelled differently.
Yeah, and I don't even know, somehow space, the way you sell space feels gayer than regular
space.
Yes, it's awesome. Mission accomplished.
I love it.
Okay, yeah.
I guess even reading this story, I didn't know this was just gay, you know,
I didn't know you guys were so exclusive to people like me.
Well, what's the description of the communion event?
Well, I just, it just did the AI search it up.
It said communion Dallas, C-U-M-U-N-I-O-N.
Oh, we'd like to share that our upcoming events have been postponed
as we prepare for an exciting new chapter.
Is that you?
Are you?
No.
Oh,
you're not that.
Communion are not my events.
Oh, okay.
They use the space.
Because of your,
the exciting new chapter that you're rolling through here.
Is this why?
Well,
because we host them at the studio.
I guess that was like in general,
all of the events at our studio.
We had lots of different groups that would come and have occasional events at our studio.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now,
how are they wrangling you on this promotion of prostitution charge?
That's a really.
really great question. I have no idea. I have no idea. Because that's part of this too,
right? Is there, they've tacked that on? Yes. Does that have to do with, like,
does some of the stuff get posted online? Is that what their angle is? The porn does?
Well, yeah. I mean, it's, it's. Yeah. And everything else. I mean, I don't, I don't know how
the promotion of prostitution comes into play here at all. I'm a big question mark. Isn't the idea that
This is how I read it in the police report when this first came out,
was that the idea was that these men were paying $15 to $20 to come into this event to have sex.
Yes, that's what they love to say.
Yes.
Right.
Yeah.
And the reality is it's a cover charge.
Right.
That's all it is.
And then whatever happens between consenting adults is their business.
But all we're providing is the space.
You're paying to get in.
Is this like the poker rooms, the gambling rooms?
They charge you money to go in, but you're not allowed to...
Membership club, yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure it's akin to that.
Or the house isn't allowed to make money.
Yeah, you pay for the seat.
It just seems like one of those deals where these sort of businesses just get caught up in miscommunication, bureaucracy, somebody's pissed off and wants to...
It sounds like, I mean, you laying this out, it sounds very logical.
Does your lawyer think you have a good case here?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, and as I said,
When I was incarcerated for a day and a half, by the time I came out, and then I saw the labels were already out there.
People were already having their own narrative, especially with the cops having first dibs on the narrative that they wanted.
I just was shaking my head thinking, wow, okay, it would be one thing if I was guilty of some of the charges.
But it's like where did all of this come from?
It's almost like they just pulled it out of thin air just to hope that I would, you know, tuck my tail between my legs and walk away.
way going, all right.
Well, it feels too like, okay, if you do have such a good case, it sounds like you tried
to get the proper paperwork and whatever, that this will still hurt your business significantly
and maybe that's just what they want.
Like they know, okay, we won't win this one, but do you feel like that as a possibility?
Because that's, it seems like discretion is a big part of this whole thing.
and if they can put you guys on a Friday afternoon on the news and all these guys sitting out there on Dallas.
Yeah, like that would be like, I don't think I'm going to go to that place.
Oh, yeah.
I'd rather go to the place that doesn't have that at the end.
Exactly.
And to sweeten the deal for them, I guess.
They threw out this false label to me and to Mark about us being sex offenders.
Like they just put it right out there.
They are running a business being sex offenders.
And I thought, really, when that's news to me?
Well, one of the things about the labels of sex offender, predation, sex trafficking,
all of these things have gotten incredibly elastic, both in the media and in legal terminology.
And it really concerned, it's particularly easy to do when you have alternative sexualities thrown into the mix.
And I am very concerned about that stuff.
And that's why this story, when it hit, raised a lot of questions for me.
but I do have a question for you, which is that there was a ton of drugs found here, too.
Yes.
So, I mean, whether or not they have this, you know, whether or not there was a, there should be some sort of sex trafficking charge, which sounds bogus to me, there are charges against illegal drugs, correct?
Correct.
Yeah.
Okay.
So one of the sex trafficking thing, let me just touch on that really quick.
they are very sneaky with their marketing of us being criminals.
So they will say something like,
this is a part of the Safe Streets Initiative that focuses on human trafficking and blah, blah, blah,
and say all these terrible things.
And then, oh, by the way, they were caught with weed and shrooms.
You know, so then everyone thinks, oh, we also did those things as well.
And then they end it with those same types of remarks.
Now, when it comes to the drugs, I think they found weed and they found mushrooms.
rooms. We'd, okay, so I'm not the only one that goes in their regularity to my studio, and you would
have to see the setup to where it's not this big, empty warehouse. You go in, do one thing, and you
leave. There are separate sections with my filing cabinets, my office, a little living area that I have,
well, what I call a living area with a television stuff just to kind of hang out. And then we have
the event area. So we have regulars that have keys to the studio that I don't know who that is. It's
not mine. I'm not a weed smoker. I'm not much of a drug person. I've never even been drunk
in my entire life and I'm 54. Wow. It's just not my thing. And when it comes to the mushrooms,
well, actually both, the mushrooms and the weed. I can't imagine the amount. I really don't even
know because I know they did things in like grams or whatever makes it more sensationalized.
But I doubt that there was that many. And the reason I say that is because there have
been AI generated images of them finding, excuse me, the drugs, and it's not even a real picture.
So I thought, if they found that much, wouldn't they be taking a picture of it and bragging about it?
Because they do that all the time. And then as far as the mushroom, I found a mushroom maker on
Facebook called like fungi smile or something like that. And it had a brick of dirt in it. And I had
put it in one of the rooms.
And I think it started growing
a one mushroom
head. And
there you go.
Well, either way.
Tell it to the judge. Yeah, I mean...
Oh, yeah. Well, I...
It already... Which you will be doing.
Don't even know.
I don't know what kind of mushroom.
I didn't get to do much of anything
with it. I had just recently purchased it.
Another question I had is, what neighborhood is this in?
Because a lot of times these stories grow
out of neighborhood complaints.
Yes.
So what's the neighborhood?
This is the Harry Heinz neighborhood.
See, oh no, there are some news, there are some articles that say,
this was a quiet residential.
No, it's not.
It is freaking prostitutes and hookers and strip clubs everywhere.
What are you talking about people?
That's interesting.
Yeah.
So to me, this sounds like maybe the cops perceived this as an easy win.
I mean, it's an area of the city that they were already targeting.
They are aware of drugs and perhaps what they can frame as illegal activity.
Like I said, maybe they're just trying to shake things up a little bit too and scare you.
Because that's just going to hurt your business.
Oh, absolutely.
In the end, they'll just be like, all right, well, okay, we didn't get the conviction on this one.
Yeah, well, the more we've dug into it just in general, me and all of my friends,
they've raided other places as well, claiming the same thing, human trafficking, prostitution,
and they keep saying this, you know, Safe Streets initiative.
So I think maybe they were newly funded or they created this new department and they're wanting to
brag.
The World Cup ain't helping you either, dude.
For real, the World Cup.
Totally.
They're like making a huge deal.
There's five news stories today about, look what we did over the weekend in anticipation
for the World Cup.
Yeah.
It's like cleaning up predators and stuff.
Yeah.
And I feel that if I didn't have the resources, the financial or just support out there,
I would have been one of those people to just give up and say, you know what, it's over.
I'm just going to go away.
Nope, that's not me because what I did was completely illegal.
So, yeah, I'm going to fire back and that's what I'm doing because I'm going to let them have it
because this is just absolutely not fair.
That's how he's celebrating pride.
Exactly.
Standing on business.
I'm on the communion website still.
You guys know how, what is it, like T-C, like Bloods won't use the letter C.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So communion, they obviously spell communion C-U-M, but they also spell welcome, W-E-L-C-U-M.
It's a very welcoming, there's a lot of welcome talk on the website.
It says, frequently asked questions, should I bring my own loop?
We will have ample supply of loop, but you are welcome to bring your favorite if you choose.
A lot of questions here.
This is interesting, though.
I mean, it begs the question.
I didn't even know what a chub was.
This seems a big offensive lineman.
He says, I'm a chub.
Am I allowed to attend?
I mean, it begs the question of what is a sexual-oriented business, right?
Because a bar is essentially a place where people go in order to hook up.
But what you have on the communion website is a very explicit invitation.
Less middlemen while more middlemen.
Yeah.
There's a lot fewer middlemen or more.
Yeah, it's hard to know.
But yes, no, I mean, I think that about prostitution, right?
Like, Dan was asking this last week about how, like, you know, you're buying dinner.
Like, at what point are you exchanging goods for services?
If you had a bar that handed out condoms at the door, okay?
Is that seen as a sort of sexual enticement?
Or is that just good business?
And I sell this stuff that makes you horny.
Right.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I just feel that anything that has to do with.
prostitution has to do with somebody doing it against their will. And with all of this,
everyone is consenting. There is no guarantee of sex. When you pay the cover charge and you walk
in, I'm not guaranteed. You're going to get laid because I've had people before not liking the
event and emailing me or, you know, talking to me saying, hey, so I didn't get any action. I'm sorry.
But I don't know. That's a you problem. We've literally lowered the bar as low as we possibly could.
and you were unable to get laid, so I feel like that's on you.
Well, I personally think we have a pretty high bar because you have to be approved to join.
That's probably true, but I just don't know.
I feel like if you show up at a sex party and you can't pull it off,
and it may be on you.
You're absolutely right.
Now, let's get down to the real question here, Israel, Luna.
Oh, there's a real question.
Okay.
How long have you had your teeth?
Because Dan and I...
Oh, they do look great.
Dan and I are obsessed.
We both want new teeth.
That was a twist there.
My wife got braces.
What are we looking at there?
Adult braces and she only had to have them for like a year and a half.
That's like 25 grand.
Thank you.
I got a mouthful of implants, actually.
That's the highest grade of high grade right there.
The veneers?
Would you call it?
No, because veneers go on top of your teeth.
So you said pull my teeth out.
Those are implants.
Yeah.
Yeah, these are implants.
Was it because you already had a messed up mouth?
Yeah, my mouth could have been better.
Okay.
You had little chicklets and a lot of stuff.
Yeah, it wasn't looking good and it was affecting my smile and I smile a lot.
But they yanked all your real teeth out?
Yes.
Wow.
Yeah.
Now, is there a gap in me, I mean a time period in between?
Like, I'm going to yank all your teeth out.
We don't do the other operation right now.
So you got to walk around gum and stuff for a while?
For 24 hours.
24 hours of gumming.
Yeah.
Take some fun pictures.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I don't know.
Does that hurt?
No, that would have, it would have been too.
too, yeah, too painful.
Yeah, too sensitive.
You're not into that.
But I do have a friend that just got his teeth pulled out,
and he's going to do a video for us called Mouth of the Thalph.
That's creative.
True story, true story.
That's good stuff.
And there's people out there that want to stop this.
I'm happy for Israel.
Anybody who's got those are great teeth, man.
Thank you very much.
And that means life's going all right.
Well, keep us up to date, Aaron.
Do you want to say anything?
Is there anything we need to add?
Like anything?
I know you're not on bike.
County jail or wherever.
No, but I mean, he's like Rosa Parks.
Thank you.
You guys are inspiring me, though, because I'm looking around here and, okay, I see
Meat Church.
That sounds like a private playground event, which are my events.
I see Olympic.
Oh, my God, that's another title for one of our events.
Very good.
Y'all are just loaded with those in here.
I'm like, oh, yeah.
Listen, if you need dudes to be able to get going, we got Game Day, Mid's Healthier,
they're sponsored the studio.
In fact, yeah.
Game Day men's health.
Just pictures of guys on the wall.
Yep.
Game Day men's health sees no sexual orientation, right?
No, they'll help anybody get rocked up.
What's a man?
What is a man?
Sarah.
What is the definition of a man?
I ask myself that all the time.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, gameday.
Dot dumbzone.com.
Peptides.
That's the new bit.
You ever do peptides Israel?
I don't know what peptides are.
Okay.
Ozympic is a peptide, but they got all sorts of them.
And they're just, they're proteins to help you feel better.
Right?
So, like, you can get them to lose weight.
I'll give you a protein, Jake.
Okay.
Yes.
So, like, what peptides are you on?
I am on one for, it's called BP 157, and it's for muscle recovery, like for injury.
My joints feel so much.
But I literally feel like I'm in my mid-20s.
I just, my, everything doesn't hurt.
Everything feels good again.
I have energy again.
It's good stuff.
It's good stuff.
You should introduce it at space.
Gameday.
Dot.com.
And then they also,
they do have the P-shot,
which is exactly what it sounds like.
It doesn't sound like anything to me.
What is a P-shot?
It helps your wiener.
It's a localized right to the action.
Go for it.
They probably do it in his line of work, to be honest with you.
You never heard of guys getting injections in adult film?
It's like that.
Oh, okay.
Get her rolling.
I'm looking at this story about a guy that does filler.
I was going to talk to you about this today.
She knows about catching print.
Yes, I do.
Do you know about catching print?
No, what's that?
Well, this is an unfortunate thing because it's like I'm telling a black guy about
rap music or something.
It's a trend on TikTok.
Gay guys were teaching us how to measure up a guy's penis size through his pants.
Oh, okay.
They call it catching print.
Gotcha.
Why is it called that?
You know, you can kind of from the outside.
I just stared right at T.C.
You can see it.
You can see it.
But yeah, those guys like doing, yeah, it's filler, Dan.
This is kind of part of the clav looks maxing thing,
but guys are shooting up their...
Gen Z is apparently very concerned about penis size.
I heard the Brunig's discussing it,
and they were explaining that you have to, like,
kind of knead it back into shape.
Okay, so...
Yeah.
I know so much.
about this.
Okay.
Go off,
Queen.
That's why you're here today.
Okay.
But this is not involved
with Game Day, right?
No.
They took the base off.
No.
Okay, but they do the show.
They will help you.
Okay.
What?
Are you aware of the
Titans?
No, the orgasm shot.
That's really where this came from.
So there was originally an O shot,
which you could put into your G-spot,
all the nerves there.
Anyway, the guy.
And it would make it more sensitive.
Sensitive.
Okay.
And the guy that came up with that
Then started doing the P-shot
Because it was just a huge market
But there has been a movement
Towards using...
Oh, oh, oh.
Sorry, I was just looking for that.
I was just looking for that.
Yeah, yeah.
Using dermal fillers like Botox for the peen.
And you cannot add length,
but you can add girth.
Okay?
Yeah.
And one of the interesting things about the before and after shots is that it will look like you've added length because it's heavier.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So you'll be more of a shower.
That makes sense.
Okay.
So there's a guy here in Dallas named Bill Moore.
He runs a place called Advanced You.
I know Bill.
He's a friend of mine.
Hell yeah.
Of course he is.
Yeah.
So Bill Moore was.
was doing a med spot.
He started doing these dermal fillers,
but one of the things...
It is.
Bill Moore.
Bill Moore.
But one of the things he noticed
was that after you used the filler,
it would smudge around,
like it would get out of shape.
Right.
And so the penis would start to look misshapen.
Like spongy.
Yeah.
Yes.
And so Bill's epiphany
was to create the penis sleeve.
Keep it straight.
It's like what those women in Africa would do in National Geographic.
It actually, it looks like that, you know.
So basically you put a silicone cast on your peen for like three weeks while the gel sets.
And then it will basically, it'll be there.
You have to get yearly injections.
Could you get like a dumb zone logo in that silicon thing, right?
Here's some kind of a...
Here's the thing.
You should get a mold made.
That's what I mean, yeah.
It imprints that.
Yes.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, it's a great idea.
You can give that away at a party.
Yeah, we have quite a few performers right before they go on.
They give themselves injections.
And we get them on video as well as behind.
the scenes. Yeah, it's really interesting.
Now that we have a porn guy here, you might as well just ask.
Are people just like numbing their junk to an extent?
Or are they just very trained and not busting?
Because obviously, like the older you get, the more it's like, yeah, it's not as much
of a problem. But, you know, you'll, like, I don't understand how dudes are not.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, there's that filler that I think makes it numb because it makes it spongy and
it makes it look nice and big.
But you can't feel anything, I don't think.
With the other injections, it does give you a legitimate boner for five hours.
That's crazy.
Or if there are porn movie tropes, we do movie tropes all the time?
Oh, right.
Are you only involved then with gay porn though?
We're the ones who...
Yes.
Okay, you've never been...
Laundry, stuck in the laundry?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I guess there are some porn movie tropes that way.
Can I point out something about the demographic for the penal injections that I thought was really
interesting?
Because I thought it was going to be almost entirely gay men.
but it turns out that gay men are about 20% of his clientele.
And that's twice the demographic of gay men.
So it is slightly larger.
Right, higher than a puppy.
Yeah.
But the majority, he said, were married men.
Yes.
And they're working class men.
They're not like, it's not like frat dudes from SMU.
Like when I was going to visit, there was like a construction worker dude that was coming out with his wife.
And one of the things that happens, which I thought was super interesting,
said a lot of them are like the wives have had kids and so there's there's space that's more space
so the girth spay-a-y-a-y-y- yeah is is to bridge the gap i have another theory that makes sense
let's go i have another theory i feel that anyone 30 and up um you can if you have issues you know
getting erect, play with your butthole.
That's what it is because men, and I'm not talking about gay men.
I'm talking about straight men, straight married men.
Men think men outside of the gay community, they don't know.
They don't know because they think if they play with it, it makes you gay.
It does not.
Are you talking about the prostate right now?
Yeah, a little bit, but you don't have to go all the way in.
You just get around, just like Jerry says about.
the cowboys, just be around the room.
I feel like that's very specific to the male.
Yes.
And you need to ask first.
You need to ask a, yeah.
Or like not at that moment, like, but just maybe nudge it out into conversation.
But don't do what that one guy did when you told him he had one question he could ask you on a date.
He said, do you like anal?
Yeah.
He's asking.
I'm going to cut to the FJ's here.
You said one question.
I'm not a big fan of the regular season.
He's going to get right to the Super Bowl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was going to ask about your family and your interests, but I'm marking those off.
If we're not, you only get one.
That was well down my list, but you just gave me one.
Yeah.
I'm with that guy, man.
I think that's a great question.
What did you respond?
I think it's great advice to.
Yeah, she gets all like, uh.
I said, no.
And I couldn't believe that was his one question.
And then I gave him another, and he was like, are you sure?
Okay.
That's awesome.
That's my hero.
All right, well, good luck.
Keep us in the loop, right?
For sure.
Yes.
Thank you.
Want to hang out and respond to other news stories that we comment on?
Here's Jane with the dumb zone.
Or you don't have to or you can leave.
Yeah, no, no, that's good.
It's up to you.
Okay.
We usually do local stories.
Happy Pride Month, by the way, Israel.
I didn't know.
Thank you very much.
Is it a big, big deal for you?
You know, I'm 54 now.
Did you go to the mailbox and look for your Pride Month check?
Nah, you know, I check every morning to see if I'm still gay.
And I'm like, I'm still gay.
Yeah, cool.
If we're being honest, you know, you hear about like if you run a bar, right, and you sell booze, big times or, you know, you're, I don't know about 4th of July, but like St. Patrick's Day, right, the night before Thanksgiving, New Year's Eve.
Amateur night.
I don't feel like he can offer specials during Pride Month.
He has to offer, he has to charge more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, coming in and really show how gay are you?
Well, it's not 35 anymore.
It's 100 cover to meet and hang out.
He can't do specials.
Yeah, we were definitely doing our part for the gay community every week, for sure.
Respect.
We're doing our part.
We had this story recently about like the screw worms in Mexico and Texas ranchers are very worried about this.
Country Clayton nodding his head.
and the way that they fight this is by releasing worms or bugs to mate with them which kills them
Google is uh is trying to do this right now in California they're trying to release 32 million mosquitoes
did you guys know that only female mosquitoes could bite you so if they release these 32
million dudes are cool they're just hanging out yeah they don't want to bother you it's like a potent metaphor
they're incels yeah
They're real pissed off online.
Because they can't, okay.
But no, they, so they will made, actually.
And then the women won't be able to reproduce women.
The female mosquitoes won't be able to reproduce.
Women.
And Google does this, I guess, as part of their business.
It's called Debug.
It's an initiative they have launched a decade ago to develop new technologies aimed at reducing disease.
Doesn't this?
I guess everyone likes the idea of never being bit by a mosquito again, but,
What are the animals that feed on mosquitoes
They're now going to die whenever all the mosquitoes
That was going to be my question
Like they always say
These things exist for a reason
You just don't understand it
The smaller cranium of the
The North American male
Is why
So why
Yeah they're like
There's something that's going to go extinct
If the mosquitoes die
Yeah
But then that's going to lead to like
Something else
And then it will affect you down the road
Or it'll affect your grandkids
And like, the Google science just can't figure this out?
These ones in particular that they're killing off are infected with diseases that will kill people and will kill animals.
So this is like a bad seed.
Now, are there, is there an animal that lives off of those?
I don't know.
I always just kind of explain them as the last on the food chain.
Like, because I'll kill them.
Yeah.
My kids would be like, well, why do we do that?
I'm like, fucking.
Who's, who's mess?
Who cares?
Right?
Spider, you're like, well, they eat bugs.
Yeah.
Mosquito, there's just, you just.
Let's just move on.
We had a...
No, unless...
Because bees, I'm buying it.
Sure.
You get it.
You see them in action.
I'm buying the flour, they're doing other...
I'm buying that they're doing something that is transferring something worthy to the human race.
But, yeah, I haven't heard why the mosquito needs to...
Except for those ones in Africa, don't people, like, eat them?
If you get enough of them, you can eat protein-based mosquitoes.
That's probably true.
Have you guys not heard that?
No.
No.
I thought they're eating bugs in Africa.
Oh, I think they're eating bugs everywhere but here.
Crickets.
Crickets.
Crickets for sure.
Brasshoppers.
Yeah.
Okay.
They serve them at Mariners games if you ever go to a Mariners game.
Crickets, they do.
For real?
Yeah, yeah.
Yep, yep.
Real weirdo.
They sold out whenever they first started doing them.
People were so excited.
Yeah, I, uh, there's no mosquitoes in my yard anymore because I eat a lot of Tabasco sauce.
So the last one that I saw actually exploded.
That's right.
is that a myth
It's a commercial
A commercial that I loved
A lot
If you rub it
The best NFL game
Yeah yeah
It's right up there with the
Budweiser frogs
This is all the same era
Yeah they're gonna be out of business
Because of this
Budweiser frogs
There's a call
If you rub the basket what
No if you rub the
Inside of a banana peel
On your skin
It'll
You won't get bit by mosquitoes
No way
Wow
This might be the most
The butthole thing
and now the banana thing.
Tips for life.
You're supposed to just believe everything this guy says?
He's one for one on the other deal.
I can tell you that.
So we had an incident over the weekend.
Dallas police, when they weren't messing with Israel,
took a man into custody.
This is 610 on Saturday night.
They're on South Marcellus.
Individual gains control of the police vehicle
while the officer is still inside.
Wow.
We're talking.
We're absolutely talking.
The officer's inside the vehicle?
Yeah.
Officer regains control of the squad car on R.L. Thornton near Beckley.
Then the suspect jumped out onto the freeway.
You know what? A lot of that has to be just...
How many times do people try to gain control of the police vehicle?
They don't.
Very little.
They don't, yeah.
Half a wife is just going for it.
Yes.
Just go for it.
Okay, sorry.
What?
He regains control and...
Yeah, I mean, there's no...
I checked our friends at Dallas, Texas TV.
Yeah, it started as a traffic stop, but it became a...
a story because the guy got the car for a little bit.
This is no surprise.
Texas is a big state, but we ranked second in the nation in the number of dog attacks on USPS employees last year.
Yeah, we did it.
Heard from a listener the other day whose son just started in the mail game because he was asking us for piss bottle recommendations.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I don't like doing that.
I want to give them breaks.
Oh, no, he had a whole story.
Let's see here.
He said that the postal service is well aware of it.
He said five months in, this is his son, he's been bitten by dogs twice and vomited from the stench of a mystery package.
They're encouraged to drink lots of water.
They have to take a lot of bathroom breaks.
Most male carriers resort to piss bottles.
They commonly refer to it as apple juice.
The carriers are worn daily.
Don't leave any apple juice in the trucks.
What do you do if you're a woman?
I don't know. I have a male lady. I demand it that way.
Because I'm progressive. I don't know. Could a woman pee in a bottle?
Yeah, it's just trickier. You know, somebody has a gag once gave me an item called a she pee.
Yeah. Oh, yes. If you got a piss bottle with like a funnel attachment.
That's what it is. Yeah. The funnel seems key, you know?
Yeah.
widen out the mouth, as it were.
So that is definitely a trope or whatever, a stereotype.
But mailmen are getting bit by dogs.
That's still very much a thing.
It's probably just because there's people who have the...
You know what it is.
It's stray dogs, right?
Yeah, because how does it happen otherwise?
It's just got to be the street.
Well, people leave their dogs walking around the neighborhood all the time.
Okay.
It sucks.
It really does suck.
Why does it happen for mailmen?
Because the dogs think that they're protecting the house.
And so every single, it's reinforced every single day because they, the dogs, every time the mailman goes away, the dog thinks they won.
Another dub for me chased off.
And so it happens every day.
So you're talking more about like dog that's in the house that breaks contain gets out of the house.
Yes, but I'm also.
The stray dog doesn't have a house, right?
That's true.
Yeah.
And I think this happens with dogs that are in the yard.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they usually have a doggy door.
I just don't keep my mailbox in my yard.
That was my first thing I was confused about.
Are you guys ready for the World Cup?
Do you have anything going on, Israel?
Do you guys going to, we could see.
I was really disappointed when you went on the news
because if they do a story about like rabbits or something,
they're like, and then the owner hopped their way to their next chapter.
And on yours, there were so many opportunities.
They were like, guys coming and going.
I'm like, guys, come on, stop right there.
What are we doing?
So many.
Maybe we can cut one with you, but do you have any, I don't know, any sort of World Cup, Innuendo, pun, balls?
What can we do here?
Oh, wow.
So many.
Two guys, one cup?
How many teams, one cup?
It's international.
How many guys?
Yeah, there's 400 guys one cup, right?
Of the major sporting events, this feels like the gayest ones.
Oh, well, I said that.
Like, that's a bad thing.
I don't know.
Why?
World Cup is gayer than the...
Why?
It's more international.
Oh, Europeans.
It's true.
Okay.
Now, the NFL is very closeted.
And they're playing soccer, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Soccer, Greg.
In downtown Arlington, they installed a 2,200-pound Texas golden soccer boot.
I have a question.
Right outside of AT&T Stadium.
Okay, my question was, what's...
So tacky-looking, dude.
What is downtown Arlington?
Well, it's where the...
There is a downtown Arlington.
Okay, that's my question.
It's like a little...
I don't want to say,
town square, but if you're going around Arlington, there's some businesses. It's kind of over
by UTA. And it's not by the stadium. What I just said is wrong. The downtown
Arlington in the stadium are two different things. But there's that old sports bar where we did
our show there and it rules. There's like a theater. There's an old time. Jay Gilligan's. Yeah.
Jay Gilligan's is downtown Arlington.
The Conne Rosa we were at was pretty close. The Conne Rocha was downtown. Yeah.
Yeah. You have any. It's like downtown Plano.
Does the morning news have you doing anything crazy for the World Cup?
I'm profiling somebody on the World Cup team that's from the Dallas area.
Do you all know Weston McKinney?
Yeah, I've heard of Weston.
I thought he went to Point O, no?
He's from Little Elm.
Okay.
I thought he was a point out of Italy now.
Yeah, he's a big deal.
He's a big deal.
Yeah.
Did you end up, weren't you trying to get tickets whenever we were doing the Rangers game?
Did you end up getting tickets?
Oh, that was Mike Mooney.
Mike Mooney was trying to get tickets
and I don't think he ever
did. I know. It was sad.
I shouldn't end on this one, but we're
going to do it anyways. We'll make it fun.
There's a state in Texas called Lone Star.
I didn't know that. I wish Blake was here because...
There's a state in Texas? Excuse me, a city in Texas
called Lone Star.
Lone Star, Texas. It's out near Tyler.
Morris County. There was a guy arrested there,
40-year-old dude over the weekend.
for using AI to create child porn images.
Yeah, that's going to happen.
But, and I don't remember what we were talking about before the show,
I probably don't think we should say.
What are you wondering?
Do I think, that's a weird one, right?
This feels like a classic, damn.
No, it feels like a classic.
We just got questions.
I haven't seen the images and I don't want to see,
but I would imagine if you're that guy,
you're in the investigation room being like,
that's 18.
that image I created is not a but if you have prompts to the AI saying but isn't it weird you can get arrested for prompting AI yeah I did a short film about this did you yes about a married man who asked his wife if he can have permission to have sex with a a sex doll that looks like a child and is is that good or bad if if they're being honest about it right and if it now the argument which I don't know that I buy the argument the argument
It's kind of like with drugs is that if you do that, it's going to...
It's like a gateway.
Well, the argument on the other side would be that it is a suppress...
That if you do that, you won't engage in a person predatory behavior.
And no children are being hurt by typing in an AI prompt.
Right.
Especially if you make them look like children versions of the minions.
But no one wants to be in public pounding the table being like, we got to let these guys cook.
I know. Nobody.
I ran up.
Oh, mine was serious.
You sounded funny.
No, no, no.
What if?
Well, it's not funny, but it's, what if you did AI?
I want to have sex with an animal.
Right.
A horse, a sheep, whatever, you know.
You say that, like, well, don't do that.
I'm saying people do have sex with animals, and that's illegal.
Mm-hmm.
So what if, can you do an AI prompt of it, though?
And say, look, I don't want to, I love the dog.
I mean, I love it, but I don't want to, I don't want to emotionally affect the dog.
Yeah, and it's not like everything that's illegal.
But I want to have sex with that dog.
Now, Mr. McDowell, why did you make this dog's tits so big on this?
If I generated a video of me smoking crack, it's illegal to smoke crack, but there's no way they would arrest me for generating that video.
Right.
My serious thing that I was going to say is that when I was the personal essays editor at Salon, I ran an essay by a non-practicing pedophile.
So this was a guy who identified as, I mean, he was attracted to people underage, but he used.
used computer-generated porn.
And it was, we got Brightbart, like, did this whole campaign.
We had to take it down.
It was, I don't know if it's, I don't know if you're looking it up right now.
No, but I remember this.
It was called, I'm a pedophile, but I'm not a monster.
Yep.
And, um.
Liz Bruning might have had thoughts on this at the time.
It was a, I mean, it was a really intense experience.
I ended up talking to the guy's mom because I was.
really scared about his safety. He ran it under his actual name. We also wanted to make sure that he
wasn't like lying. The liability with this one was pretty high. So, but anyway, you know,
one of the interesting things about pedophilia is they don't really know where it originates.
There is some theory that it is a neurological, like it comes from a hit to the brain.
Well, TC and I reference this all the time, but there was a radio lab like 15 years ago that
guy. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And this is, but so that prompts the question,
like if this is something that's out of your control, like, and we've, like, and we've made, you know,
and you're not harming anybody with this computer generated thing. So anyway, it's not a comfortable
conversation. And one of the things that came out in that radio lab, although I thought it was this
American life, but it might have been radio lab. Or they might have both done it. They're kind of the same.
point to me. But there was a researcher
on there that was saying, you know, we don't know a lot
about this. And the thing is that you can't get any
research money for it. Absolutely
nobody, nobody wants
to do research on this topic and nobody wants
their name associated with it.
Because of that moral
judgment from everyone. Oh, but
God, this and Jesus, that, you're a terrible
person you need to die. Well, I think
that to not to
put some more nuance on it, you
could be worried that by researching it, people
could get hurt. Like if you genuinely
believe that any sort of creation of these images is leading to crime. I don't think that,
but if you do, then you can't support researching it. It's a sexual taboo that people are very
comfortable with. They don't want to remove the taboo around children. Yeah. It's just something
that nobody, I shouldn't say nobody, but like it's not, that's not a popular conversation that people,
and it's not comfortable, you know, especially for people that have children. See, this is a change in
hold on get in front of the mic please pull that mic over so i've learned um and actually representing
somebody on one of these charges uh is that most of it is not newly created most of it is stuff
that has been circulating for years like they see the same children over and over and over again and
so um most of it is not being newly created you know but the texas definition is really
broad, it just says a child under the age of 18 engaging in sexual contact. And so it doesn't
necessarily indicate through this that it has to be a real child. Yeah. Boy, that's... Well, and then there's
also the really controversial thing of like kids under 18 exchanging photos with each other
and how that can land usually the boys. Or a 19 year old and... Yeah, exactly. On the sexual
a sex offender list. I one time was doing a trial on, it was a child abuse trial and had a mom
raise her hand and be like, what if both kids are under 18? And I was like, okay, this is clearly a
mom whose son is having sex with his girlfriend and just wants to make sure everything's legit.
Yeah. Yeah. So it does, it, it is a question and that no one really has good answers for.
It's just kind of like an ad hoc. As it comes up, that's when we discuss it.
Yeah, but technology way outpaced morality on that.
You know, like the ability, basically we handed a bunch of teenagers DIY porn studios.
Yeah, and this guy used it, this guy out in Lone Star, Texas.
It says here, though, he was also, another charge was not only were they children,
but he was crossing up the cartoon characters and committing continuity air.
So he had like Bart Simpson and then Brian from Family Guy, which is.
I think you would agree
that's disgusting
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I have been to that lagoon.
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Is that where the movie was?
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I wish.
You wish?
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Why do you wish the movie, the Blue Lagoon was filmed in Iceland?
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Iceland is so pretty.
And then you would have Young Love and Iceland.
I would just guess wherever the Blue Lagoon was filmed was probably pretty.
Speaking of sexual taboos, Blue Lagoon, aren't they both like 13 in that movie?
Yeah, they highlight that in the...
Brooke Shields.
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This is weird that Hollywood did this to you, right?
I need to watch that.
It's great.
I went to look up downtown Arlington to see exactly where it is.
They've already switched to, on Google Maps, it says Dallas Stadium.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
You know Jerry's just effing seething all month.
Nothing he can do about it, but.
Jerry probably doesn't care because he can tell AT&T.
Sorry.
Nothing we can do about it, but I'm still cashing your check.
Yeah.
Jerry's not mad.
So AT&T is the one who's mad.
This wouldn't have happened under Cents Watch.
Which ironically, I think, I think Charlotte's hubby is an AT&T guy.
Oh, really?
Not like I haven't looked up his exact net worth and then set all my investments.
He's like an installer.
He's really cute, by the way.
He's really cute, sure.
He installs.
I know a lot more about football than him, though.
Yeah, he's not as cute as Jake.
I didn't say that.
I said I know more ball than him.
And it's true.
Do you know more ball than Charlotte?
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He'd love to find out.
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Oh, it's just getting started.
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I literally would not be where I am today. Please wish him a late, happy birthday. This is from
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Israel?
What?
Navy.
I've had many a conversation with it.
It's good.
Certainly a stigma.
I saw a podcast about that I marked the other day.
Why is the Navy so gay?
Why do we think?
Trust me, they all are.
That's what I'm saying.
Why?
Oh, they all are.
Why?
Stuck on that boat.
But Coast Guard?
Rod Stewart?
No?
Not Coast Guard, though?
It's all about the uniform.
Yeah.
If they have a uniform.
Yeah.
Spaceful.
And I'm reading these birthdays in the chronological order that I received them.
I don't want anybody to be mad.
Yeah, you guys got to do a movie, a video, a porno, called Space Force, right?
But it's space like the studio.
And you're rescued, that's as far as I got.
Yeah, I like it.
It writes itself, actually.
Yeah.
Can I ask Israel a quick one?
Sure.
By all means.
If the Rod Stewart thing really did happen, would he have to have his stomach pumped?
Okay, so.
Rod Stewart.
Sarah.
Oh, wow.
You're 54 and you don't know the Rod Stewart bit?
I do not know the Rod Stewart.
We played the audio from Katie Couric.
Where are you from?
In 2012, had Rod Stewart on.
He had a book come out, and she's asking him some uncomfortable questions.
They put up an image of every woman he's had sex with, and she's like, you dog.
And then she's like, audience questions.
And she asks him about.
Oh, my God.
She's like, it says you serviced a bunch of sailors.
This is a rumor Israel that.
Oh, wow.
Dan's from Ohio.
He's 10 years older than me.
He knew this one.
Everybody knew this one.
But Rob Stewart.
But Corby here knew it.
Yeah.
Had to have his stomach pumped because he serviced like a whole fucking ship of sailors after a show.
A bunch of fans before a show or after a show or something.
Gotcha.
He gotcha.
He had to.
He's too much semen.
He swallowed so much, yes.
There's no such thing as too much semen in your body.
Got it.
That's the answer.
Well, with all the, again, with the protein is.
That sounds like heterosexual talk.
That is protein maxing.
I want to start to rising
calling stuff straight.
Trust me.
There needs to be a workshop for straight men by gay men.
Yeah.
Y'all only use like 10% of your, of your sexual discovery.
The repertoire, yeah.
Potential.
This guy knows.
Exactly.
All right, this is an odd time to do this, but I actually forgot.
Oh, yeah.
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I say Dirk birthday because she is turning 41,
and that is the number he wore during his career.
Okay, dude. Overwritten.
I'm not sure if you remember the time that I broke your chair,
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This is from T.C. Fleming.
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Happy birthday, Megan.
Happy birthday.
It's T.C.'s Wives' birthday.
Happy birthday to Megan.
Now, what would she say about AI?
Because I was thinking during that whole AI thing,
you know, we did the sex with the animal,
but what it, like, could I do AI of my wife's sister
and hook up with my wife's sister that way?
Would my wife not be mad?
Because it's just AI.
I think they'd be mad.
Hmm.
Find a way.
But so in this situation, are you?
Are you wearing the AI thing and having sex with her sister while you're having sex with her?
Or is it just on your own?
I'm sure there's other emails, right?
And one more.
I have late birthday ad.
It is my mom, Sean's birthday today.
She will be listening.
Never seen a lady named Sean, S-H-A-W-N.
This is from Foodie CK.
Wow.
We have two.
I'm really glad I didn't say what I was about to say.
Family birthdays.
What a day.
Sean Young, different spelling, but lady named Sean.
S-E-A-N, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Happy birthday, Clayton's mom.
Yes, I've met Clayton's mom, and she's back heading out to Carmel, California.
Carmel, California, right?
Did she vote for Clint Eastwood?
Boy, there's no question.
Wasn't he the mayor there once?
It sounds right.
Yeah.
Something like that.
I had never heard of it before.
This looks like a wonderful place.
It's so pretty.
Oh yeah, Carmel by the sea.
It's culinary week.
It's culinary week.
She's handling foodie-cK business in California.
I don't know what that means.
Flooring Direct.
EFW presents on this day in history.
Oh, Flooring Direct DFW, they are on my list as well.
because wife is now off work for the summer.
She works for her school.
And it's new floor season.
It's tin fish summer.
It's new floor summer.
You know about this tin fish thing?
I've heard about it.
Yeah.
What do you guys think of tinned fish?
A canned fish.
Everybody's into it these days, bro.
One year old.
What's that about?
It's because of the dang ozimic.
No.
Everybody wants protein.
High protein.
Right.
They've got Israel's way.
Healthy fats.
That one's Omega 3 fatty acids.
It's good for you, but it's just...
Whatever Clayton just said about Omega.
It's an Instagram thing.
It's brain food.
It's brain food.
That's why I'm so quick and sharp.
And that's why he's so sharp that he's going to get his floors from Floor and Direct DFW.
That's right.
They're going to come on out to his house.
They're going to show him some samples.
They have tiny little floors.
You can play with, you could put little army men on them.
Tiny little floors.
They have little samples for you there.
And then you choose.
That's why you don't have to go to a showroom.
You can kind of lay the carpet down next to your wall and be like, oh, yeah, that looks, that's a good look, right?
No doubt.
So great deals as well.
They are local.
That's a big deal, and they're owned by a guy I trust.
Dan, known him for a long, long time.
So they fit right in with all of our sponsors here on the show.
Flooring direct, dfW.com slash dZ.
Hey, let them know that Sarah Hepelah sent you.
Please.
They'll be like, who's that?
Oh, they know Sarah.
They're like, I hate her.
I didn't say they liked you.
I said they know you.
Today is Monday, June 1st.
Doodle today in history here.
On this day in 1925, Lou Gehrig, you know who that is, Israel?
Yes.
How about you, Sarah?
You ever hear of Lou Gehrig?
Yeah, he's a baseball player.
He pinch hit for Pee Wee-Wanager in the eighth inning.
He replaced Wally Pip at first base.
and that was the first of what we come
2,130
consecutive baseball games,
the longest streak
in baseball history
until Cal Ripkin Jr.
You know, Keith Oberman made an impassioned
push for Ripkin to
intentionally not break the streak
for Blue Garrick and everything
he went through.
That's the most Keith Oberman thing.
He said it was absolutely a moral wrong
to break that record.
How can I make this
about me.
Because Lou Gehrig was suffering from the disease in the final game.
Had he not had Lou Gehrig's disease, who knows how long the streak would have gone.
Could still be playing.
Yeah.
This is the term Wally Pipped.
You're aware of that in the vernacular.
I'll teach you that one.
You can use that.
Thanks.
Like if you went out when you'd be sick at work and somebody to replace you and do a good job.
Oh.
Wally Pipp was a good player, but he was hurt.
And Lou Gehrig got his job and didn't miss a game for the next two decades.
Yeah, so don't let someone talented do your column one week.
You don't want to get Wally Pipped.
Correct.
On this day in 1975, Nolan Ryan threw his fourth no-hitter.
His 100th career win was his fourth no-hitter.
And he threw, how many pitches would he have thrown in this particular game, do you think?
I mean, it's got to be 120, something like that, 120, 130?
He threw 147 pitches.
Became the first in baseball history to throw a no-hitter in three straight seasons.
It does seem the case that there's, in any given time, like two humans on the planet that can do it without injury.
And under the modern rules, we're just not finding those two.
Nah, it's over. That's fine. Games change.
Oh, I think you're saying with the modern rules, we're never going to find, like,
someone could do it.
They could do it.
There's a Nolan Ryan out there, but we won't even give him more than 80 pitches.
200 other guys are going to have to blow a ligament for us to find.
Right.
But they can.
Boy, I saw this highlighted it this morning and didn't even know about our guests today.
So this might even work.
And this day in 1978, anti-gay crusader, Anita Bryant.
I think she's some famous something of actress, singer.
Yeah.
Is she the Chiquita Banana Lady?
No, she was a commercial actress for orange juice.
Anita Bryant?
Yes.
Okay, so you're aware of somebody that's an anti-gay crusader?
All of them?
All of them?
They download the whole test.
So she had a Playboy magazine interview.
She tells Playboy magazine that homosexuals are called Fruit.
because they eat the forbidden fruit from the tree of life.
Yes.
I like that.
That's totally true.
Yeah.
That goes hard.
I thought the forbidden fruit, though, is just, even just the regular Saxons.
Is that all it said about her?
That's all it says.
Oh, because she was totally anti-gay and then she got a piner face live on television.
Oh, really?
Yes, by a gay guy.
And that was awesome.
And then she didn't want them to stop the,
the live feed and they all held hands and started praying with pie falling off of her face.
And then she couldn't continue the prayer.
And she started crying and I was like, that's what you get.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So I thought I'd fill in that blink there.
That's great.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Boy, they just got it right in the face.
There it is.
With a cream pie.
Yep.
As it were.
This guy rules.
On this day in 2015, Vanity Fair released its cover photo featuring the former Bruce
Jenner with the headline, Call Me Caitlin, as the Olympic gold medalist publicly completed a gender
transition. So is she fully gone over, like the whole everything, surgery? I don't think so.
I've tried to look into it, but I can't tell. I've tried to look into it. I have. I've tried,
you know, because it's confusing. Is this person gay? I don't know. They seem hateful.
Yeah, she's officially trans, but we don't like her.
They'll be careful. It should run you over with her car.
We're just having fun.
I would imagine nobody has any this day in Dumb Zone history.
We haven't transferred any of that.
Okay.
Let's move to other birthdays today, include former Ranger Brad Wilkerson.
He's 49.
Bob and Dan.
I know that's your punchline for everything.
Soriano?
Yeah.
He was traded for Soriano.
Yeah.
Or Soriano, yeah.
That's how we got Brad Wilkerson.
I think, yeah, it was A-Rod turns into Soriano, and then Soriano refuses to play the outfield, gets traded to the nationals for Brad Wilkerson.
We turned A-Rod into Brad Wilkerson.
Pretty cool stuff.
Pretty cool stuff.
Mark Fistrick is 40.
The bird.
That is a former Dallas star.
You're thinking of Mark Fidrich.
Wow, what a poll.
Sorry.
That's like before my time.
But you're always talking about it.
You're baseball historian.
Carlos Zambrano is 45.
Today's war games winner at 43.9.
So I want to look at his career like, oh, wow.
That's pretty good.
Out of baseball by 31.
Like it feels like he had a sharp decline like at 29 and then he's just gone.
a cub forever and then
seems crazy
let me hear from you
I'm going to say I don't really
Alexi Lalas is 56
he'll probably be in the World Cup right
in his soccer guy
oh yeah
he loves soccer
Santana Moss is 47
do you think that the entire
legitimacy of the World Cup should be called
into question by the fact that the host team
gets an automatic bid
yes great question
yeah
that's why
we're in this time, I'm pretty sure. I don't think they...
Did Cutter almost win? How'd they do?
That's a good question. No, I think they got smoked.
Oh.
Don't we have like Iran and Cutter playing in like San Diego or something?
Does the hate game?
Swaggy P is 41. I don't think Cutter made it back.
Smush Parker is 45.
Greg Shiano is 60. Remember him?
Absolutely. Hard-ass coach.
He's still around.
He's still around.
Coach at Rutgers, right? I think he went back to Rutgers.
We have two still alives today.
Pat Boone is 92, singer.
Wow.
92.
Morgan Freeman is 89.
Wow.
He's my grandma's age.
You could probably find some stuff you wouldn't like if you looked.
Oh, about his niece or something like that?
He's got some, yeah.
He's got some weird stuff going on.
It doesn't have two working hands, right?
Is that so?
I think that they're always shooting around a hand.
think that he's got a messed up hand.
He's always wearing a glove.
He got in that car wreck a few years ago and it like mangled his hand.
That's crazy.
I didn't know.
I just found out what happened at Ken Paxton's eye.
What happened?
Fruit?
This is not made up.
And when someone puts it in a text, it's confusing.
But he was hit in the face with a blackberry.
Not a phone.
Come to find out not a phone.
Not a phone.
No, but at 12 years old, someone winged a.
I guess a berry at him and put his eye out.
Dead serious.
Never would have thought.
How can a Blackberry attain that velocity?
You remember Stuart Scott from ESPN, he got hit with a football at Jets training camp.
Makes a little more sense.
It is too on the nose.
If you see the sports anchor, you're like, what happened?
They're like, we'll use it in NFL practice.
How about this guy?
Have a Republican candidate and I'll be able to take a fruit.
to the face.
Actress Sophia Hublitz is 26.
She is Charlotte Bird in Ozark.
All right.
Also come to learn this morning.
She was on the sitcom Louis, the Louis C.K.
Like, it wasn't it like an IFC show or an FX show or something?
Effects, yeah.
And then she was also a contestant when she was little on Master Chef Jr.
Okay.
Which my kids were a big fans of.
actress Terry Polo is 57
she was married to Ben Stiller and meet the parents
Heidi Kloom is 53
Alonis Morissette is 52
That's my girl right there
What a legend
Is she the one that went down on Dave Kouye in the theater
Uh huh
So much more than that though
Isn't it ironic
Actress
I think actress
Willow Shields is
from the Hunger Games.
Tom Holland is 30.
From Spider-Man.
Someone named Marcus Person is 47.
Marcus Person created Minecraft.
Wow.
I agree with that sentiment, TC.
How tall Zendaya?
She's taller than he is.
She's taller than he is?
That a boy.
Short king.
Tom Holland, 5-8.
than die a 510 511.
Why do we always feel like we're happy when we find out Tom,
or Tom Cruise is 58 or Tom Hot.
It's great.
This is great.
Yeah, I got to have something.
Yeah.
Because they would love to be 6-2.
But they're not.
That's why they keep on working.
They just figure that if they do enough,
that they'll have the accomplishments of a taller man.
And he is.
A little guy.
Like you could put them in your pocket.
Amy Schumer is 45, Jake?
There's been some stuff she's done that I thought was really funny.
I'm going to say something nice about her.
Like those jokes about her vagina?
Some of them are funny.
Just kind of not a second pitch.
And our dumb zone birthday of the day is Nikki Glazer is 42.
Now, she is brilliant.
She's funny.
Is she hot or comedian hot?
I think she's probably legit hot.
But like kind of in that like gross way.
Born on the stay now dead, Andy Griffith.
No.
Like she doesn't seem like she's stuck up.
She seems like she knows like how to use the full 100%,
like Israel was saying.
Born on the stay now dead Andy Griffith and bring him young.
Brigham young.
Why is that gross?
She doesn't she see I don't know I don't she's not you meant dirty dirty yeah
Like yeah like DTF but yeah you know dead and that goes through your whole day you know it's not just it's like you're just a person who's fucking
She's a freak there you go thank you
Baddy
Go off queen dead on the stay still dead
Some people are so famous that like anyone associated with them are become famous as well just by,
I just want to say she died on this day.
It was his sister.
Paula Hitler.
Oh, my God.
You never think about his siblings.
Died on this day in 1960.
Just think about her life from 19, what, 45 to 1960.
Yeah.
That's a rough 15 years there.
It was going good before that.
It might have been going great.
She didn't anything she wants.
Yeah.
Yeah, because people had to be questioned her.
Like, what kind of a bitch as a sister were you?
Yeah.
Like, I guess maybe you should have been a little nicer to him.
She can't really hide with that last name.
No.
Your artwork looks great.
No.
Does he have other siblings?
I don't know.
DeMond.
Stay tuned to today in history.
Steve.
Also, born, it died on this day, Helen Keller.
It's so funny to learn about her now.
You learn, like, oh, really?
She was a real champion for labor.
She's a socialist.
Yeah, they stop the teaching about Helen Keller in school.
They teach you about up until she was 18.
Like, all right.
Then she learned to talk, and that's it.
That's all that happened.
She learned how people were saying stuff.
Two more deaths for you.
These are interesting.
one is more interesting than the other.
Interesting because they both occurred in San Antonio.
One, on this day in 2014 and B. Davis, she was like the maid on the Brady bunch.
So we kind of know who she is.
And the other one, on this day in 2025, died on this day, Jonathan Joss.
So I went to search him this morning, and it's like, oh, he was a Native American actor.
Right.
And you may recognize him.
He was on Parks and Rec.
And like if you're a Native American actor in this day and age, you're probably, you're going to recognize because like you're the guy and you're going to be on these shows.
Then as you read about his, it says, murdered by neighbor.
Oh, yeah.
King of the Hill actor.
Yeah.
King of the Hill.
John Redcorn.
Oh.
Murder by neighbor.
Yes.
Was he gay?
Yeah.
And the neighbor was like, hate crime in him.
Oh, I thought it was.
Mexican also.
What I read was he was, uh,
mentally unwell.
And he had, the cops had been called to his house like 70 times in a two or three year period.
And yeah, this guy was just walking around.
Like, I don't know if it was just a hate crime because he's gay.
They just said there was like, I remember his husband or boyfriend was posting about it afterwards saying the guy had like been messing with him or something.
But I don't know.
I didn't follow up on it.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe all the other stuff is ancillary.
I don't know.
The point is he's not alive.
And now you know the rest.
He was in Tulsa King.
No.
Yeah.
All right?
Tulsa King is the art.
Are you guys excited about Frisco King?
I'm perplexed.
And that's what happened.
The idea that Samuel Jackson.
You know about this?
There's a show called Tulsa King.
Oh, shit, we're so late.
Do you want to not do it?
Well, let's do it.
We got it.
We're going to date.
It's real quick.
The Tulsa King is like an actual drama.
Sylvester Stallone.
But the spinoff is called Frisco King.
And it's like a fish out of water sitcom starring Samuel L. Jackson.
And it's based in Frisco, Texas, which...
I'm so fascinated.
I don't know.
So Israel, I'll ask you to move aside for a moment.
Sure.
Thank you for joining us today.
Absolutely.
We wish you well in your endeavors.
I think you have a good lawyer to get you there.
Yes, I agree.
It's Aaron Kelly, of course.
And so, yeah, we say goodbye to Israel, and we bring in our man downtown to the casting couch.
I don't think he wants that.
Hi.
So where would you like to sit next?
This is John Kukla.
Hi, Sean.
We're going to let John sit and then grab the headset if he wants.
Oh, I got.
Oh, my God.
And his always present coffee in hand.
And here he is.
Absolutely.
This is our man downtown.
Do I sound okay?
You do.
That's very subjective, John.
Well, I don't know.
First of all, thank you for having me.
Appreciate it.
Well, thank you for all that you've done for the dumb zone over the years.
Well, I'd like to state for the record that I am day five, listener number 2574.
You actually searched.
Long time fan, first time sit-in.
Blake looks different in person
But anyway
It's good to be here
Yeah this is Sarah Heppel
This is very surreal
Hi Sarah
Hi
Nice to meet you
Yeah John was our guy
Our man downtown
And he was involved from
Pre day one to us doing DZ TV
But he's a big wig here at Fox
And I am once walked
Yeah well they haven't told you yet
No.
Walked up.
He's, his office is right next to ours.
I think he supplies the candy out in the candy hall.
Nice.
Is that true?
I do.
Yeah.
And he's the guy that like, when we first started talking about the, you know, the relationship,
he was like, I don't know.
We kind of have like an empty conference room.
Maybe you guys could use that.
And we came in here and it was just a, it was a dump, right?
It was.
Certainly needed some.
We didn't know what to do with it.
Yeah.
I believe, yeah, Jake has a picture of what it used to be.
Yeah.
And now look at it today.
Look at that.
You've really transformed the space.
Yeah, it's more of an open concept.
Yeah, you guys came in and you worked your video magic, and we showed this off quite a bit.
Whenever we have like corporate bigwigs and stuff, it's like, look what we can do with this, you know, with this space.
Look what you guys have done.
And can't thank you enough for coming in here.
here and sort of believing in us and believing in you guys that we could kind of create this
nightly show that is certainly a stalwart of more 27, no longer more 27.
Right. That's why we have you in today. It's a tent pole of more 27. I believe so.
And I also believe I've actually, see, this is bad. I've actually got my headphones on wrong.
I feel much better now.
Oh, okay.
Clayton, can you edit that part out?
You had the left ear and the right ear and vice for, okay.
Yeah, thanks a lot.
Yeah, that's what we're here for to announce the big deal going on at more 27.
Correct.
Which is, more 27 has been eradicated, right?
It has.
It has.
When I first got here, it was KDFI 27, and then we picked up my network TV in 2006.
So we became my 27.
then we decided that we really didn't like that.
So let's become Fox 4 more, but nobody could remember that.
Oh, I don't remember that era.
See, exactly.
So then you're more 27.
Yeah, so we became more 27.
And then we had always treated both stations as separate entities,
even though they were next to each other and we ran them.
And so we thought, you know what?
Several of our sister stations had kind of become Fox 4 Plus,
had become kind of adjuncts or extensions of the main brand.
And we thought, well, you know what?
We need to do that.
And one of the reasons we want to do it now is because during the FIFA World Cup,
26, trademark, we kind of have to say it that way,
we will be putting a lot of our newscasts on when the games are on
because we have 70 matches.
They're going to be going on all day.
And as much as we love people having the World Cup on,
they also want to see Dan Henry.
They want to see Stephen Heather.
And we'll be able to have that on the new Fox 4 Plus Channel 27.
And that's awesome.
So tonight and now, like right this,
second. It is now Fox 4 plus. It started over the weekend. Over the weekend. Over the weekend. So yes.
As a matter of fact. So my day has been spent actually watching our air to find out where all the old more 27 logos live and hunting them down and eradicating them.
Okay. Yeah. We've been through that quite a bit. We'll get the bad radio picture off of the app someday.
They'll get it off there quick if they want it off there.
Yeah, well, yeah, they actually were able to get the hang zone off there a lot quicker.
So, yeah, John is the guy that he's given us, he gave us this.
Do you remember the thing that Jake really loved about Fox 4's history?
Can we play that thing real quick?
And then we're going to debut the new open to our DZTV.
But this is an old promo.
TV antenna fix.
Put this in here and that and that and there and this and here.
The Channel 4 News is about to come on.
Whatever it takes, wherever it breaks.
Plerice Tensley, Steve Bosch, James Span, and Paul Crane have got it all, buddy.
Clarice, Steve, James, and Paul, the Channel 4 News team, a great bunch of guys, know what I mean?
Farna!
The great Jim Barney.
He's acting.
Jake is...
No, Jim was Jim acting, I would say, purely.
What's the part that's supposed to be funny?
How much do you think that cost?
You know what?
What did Jim Varney cost at the height of Jim Varney to do a promo?
I probably, I mean, this would have been 1984.
This is pre-mey there.
Oh, okay.
But probably, I would say, maybe $1,000.
He was doing this all over the country.
He would, you would kind of hire him out.
Would you be like $4 million in today's dollars?
What's that?
Yeah, maybe $4 million in today's dollars.
but he would be kind of a guy for hire commercial spokesperson.
You gave him your copy points.
They came and knocked out about 10, 11 of these,
and he just took on a life of its own.
And so people would know Vern and Jim Varney,
depending on where you lived in the country.
Oh, he's the guy that sells me the cars.
He's the guy that, in this case, Channel 4.
It's interesting because when that spot came back around, I was asking people they knew who it was.
And unfortunately, a whole generation has passed that doesn't know him as the Hey, Verne guy, but there's a whole new generation that knows him as Slinky Dog from Toy Story.
A loyal friend.
He is the original Slinky Dog.
Unfortunately, he passed after the second show.
movie but
but yeah
so he lives on
in our hearts
I think it's interesting though
that he used to do that
travel across the country
he would sell his name to whatever
anybody who would give him a dollar
you know who would never
do something like that
whore themselves out
pee we Herman
just pure
a man of principle
yeah it's true
a guy who was just
interested in film
in film
for not for kids
okay let's debut
so since it's
more, excuse me, it's not more 27 anymore.
It's now Fox 4 Plus.
The plus means more.
Mm.
Mm.
Oh, right.
Wow.
This guy, so many levels.
So many levels.
Does it work?
Should we focus group it?
I don't know.
But we have a, uh, so John.
I actually brought the logo.
I brought the logo.
Okay.
So here we go.
You ready?
All right.
It's kind of Texas.
I dig that.
I dig that.
It's the plus is in there.
Almost like a Swiss five.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The plus is white.
I dig it.
Okay, here we go, Jake.
It's got like the plus inlet on the third, like the 3D thing.
And it's like the state of Texas.
You were the, kudos to you because.
Where's the pan?
We were the first, we kind of looked at and goes,
am I seeing a little bit of Texas in there?
Yeah.
Thank you for picking that up.
Oh, good.
Management will be very, very happy.
Good.
Tell them it was me.
Thank you.
Takes a native Texas.
Anyway, John came to us a while back and told us like we've known about, you know,
I know about stuff in the business.
Like everybody else was surprised this weekend, not me.
I just woke up today like, oh, yeah, of course it's Fox 4 Plus.
I've known about it for some time.
I'm a media insider.
And back when John told us this, he said, hey, maybe you should, let's do a new open for the show, perhaps.
You got a new theme song.
He likes it.
Love the theme song.
What if we had a new video open for the DZTV on the new TV station?
and I'm like, okay, sure.
So we got TC and TC worked tirelessly, many different iterations of it,
but we have come up with our new Open.
So if you're listening to the audio product of this,
you can go see this on Fox 4 Plus tonight, right, at 9, weeknights at 9.
I believe so.
And here you go.
Here's the new DZTV Open.
And TC producer.
Now, if you like it,
John said we should make a new one.
Timed up the video, T.C.
Still Jake being disgusting,
funny Angela.
Or is it not.
T.C.
It looks so cool.
That looks great.
Thanks, guys.
Nicely done.
Got everybody now, see, people who now watch Fox 4 Plus,
Fox 4 Plus now gets to hear the theme song
because you don't get to hear the theme song.
The old way.
Currently, now you do.
It's a programming guy right here.
Well, thanks.
Thanks, Israel.
Thanks, John.
Thanks to the great Sarah Heppala.
And I hope to see all of you this weekend at the GSE.
You'll be back before the book comes out.
Absolutely.
End of September.
You said you have a date now.
All right, cool.
Yeah.
Saturday, June 6th, 6 p.m.
GSE will see you there.
First 69 people, free piss bottle.
Adios, mofo.
We got to go before this becomes a zoo.
See you guys for drinks later.
Thank you for watching my video.
Subscribe and type for my name if you want to watch more of my video.
Whoa, that's a full rainbow all the way.
Double rainbow, oh my god, double rainbow.
It's a double rainbow all the way down.
It's a double rainbow all the way down.
It's so bright, so vivid.
Double rainbow, double rainbow.
It's so dance, dance.
What is this me?
It's starting even left like a triple rain
That's a whole rainbow man
Double rainbow all the way
Will fish
Oh, I did on my camera
Double rainbow all the way
That is the baddest fucking rainbow I've ever seen
