The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 7-14-25 | Behind the scenes of the Quarterback and Cowboys documentary

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Hear every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneWe had a couple cinematographers in-studio to talk about working on Netflix's Quarterback series and the upcoming Dallas Cowboys documentary. Plus, a weekend check and some Moon landing conspiracy theories (00:00) - Open: Weekend check (56:41) - Sports: Filming Quarterback and Cowboys doc (01:56:51) - News: Burglaries with a sledgehammer (02:15:47) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Now, on to today's program. The keys to muscles and wealth, it's Game Day Men's Health. That's right, Game Day Men's Health Studio. I'm headed there today, Dan, my normal Monday appointment. You can do what I do and get TRT 10% off for life. Maybe you're feeling a little down, like that music needs to be. Maybe you need a little juice. Well, pick me up.

Complementary testosterone test. Yeah. When you go there, they'll just tell you your levels. They'll talk to you about it. Maybe you're fine. But then maybe you're like me. You're like, when you walk in, you're like, oh, yeah. You're a candidate.

Yeah, so if it's been a while since you really knocked the bottom out of that thing, go to gamejmen'shealth.com You can see one of their nine locations Go get the levels checked. In DFW. They have a million locations literally. They do Go to the one in Rowlett, Blake. Yeah Blake what's going on? I'm scared. Okay. You're scared? I'm scared of my muscles in the world. Tell him you heard about him on the dumb zone. Don't be a pussy dude. Well I walked in today Dan had a raging erection he got that by 10% off

That's true too the proceeding and the following content are brought to you by no puppet productions and Okay, so I'm not even gonna read any rap it doesn't exist to you, okay, I could see Kanye in here I'm not even going to read any rap. It doesn't exist to you. OK. I can see Kanye on here. I'm not allowed to read it. No. Damn it. I like Kanye.

And growing warmer to him by the day over there, I noticed. His political views are changing. Yeah. Oh, this guy's going to know. Oh, he's dying. Wasn't he really a bad guy? You guys aren't able to separate the art from the artist. So that's making me sad for your existence.

As the song is just like, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. I can separate albums. Go. That reminded me I got to go by there today. That's what we're here for. To remind you stuff like you might have forgot. Who are these guys so I could say I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake Kemp.

I'm Blake Jones. We have FoodieCK, Clayton Kimbrough here as well. The online folks seem to like Foodie CK. I just let things happen organically so whatever. If that's what they want to go with. I can't control the mob. You know I have a desire to call them CKY. Oh we got a couple filmmakers in the house today I'm sure they're very... yeah Camp Kill Yourself was the precursor to Jackass Dan. Camp't kill yourself? Yeah it was you could get it at skate shops back in the day. What does that mean? You get what? You could get the tape they

would produce like Jackass DVDs but it was CKY before Knoxville corporate did it all up you know real heads. So like what you were doing with your buddies, correct filming it which we once showed at the Alamo Drafthouse Theater I was all right P I was recently made aware that there is a I don't know how long it is three four hour video of us Recording the five minute stranger album that you guys had so much fun with. Oh the five minute stranger album that you guys had so much fun with oh a little behind the music that'd be great to revisit I'll send it your way anyway happy Monday everybody I'm feeling great I'm very happy I'm just excited best I felt in years I'm happy to be with you guys is it game day men's health I don't

know but I'm happy that you guys are a part of my inner circle. I wouldn't want to do this with anybody else, but you too. I'm just saying. Where's this headed? What? Nowhere. How are you doing this?

I'm trying to combat. I feel like I've exuded a negative vibe. Oh, it's cause we're. A negative stance. A negative stance. And I'm just trying to just tell you that I do wake up feeling great This is all my fault yesterday. I felt great. This is so gay

Yesterday I made it okay to talk about how you feel now our show sucks We were doing someone is a show you told one slur per no V yellow we think couple of those No, it's, you guys know how I left on Friday. My weekend check could take all week. Well, this is the highest my vibes have ever been. Let's just mention we have some sit-ins. We are not in our game day men's health studio, which is in downtown Dallas.

We'll be back Wednesday. Big show Wednesday. That's right folks, doing a show on Wednesday cause one guy just looked at the calendar and said you know What I'm just gonna go on vacation on Friday What are you guys gonna do about it? And we said I don't know same guy said also Monday I think that's right. I think of all the we have this unlimited time off. I think out of all the like but Busting each other's balls,

there's not a bust term that doesn't sound kind of sexual, is there? Busting each other's ass. The four day a week thing is off limits. What do you mean? We just have to do four shows in a week. Yeah, I know. Not next week.

There's a lot of business to be done and you'll be gone on Friday. Business, don't stop. But I will tell you this, my kids are not even back from the beach yet and they're going on Friday. Business don't stop. But I will tell you this, my kids are not even back from the beach yet, and they're going on Friday, which means we will simply launder a load of clothing from each child bag and put it back in that child's bag.

That's awesome. So that is one hack. That's wonderful. Anyway, we are broadcasting live to tape today. And on YouTube, if you ever care to tune in at 11.30 every day, that's when we start. Yeah. 11.30 Central. Most days.

Most days we can pivot, but we generally, I think, we can call ourselves 11.30 start time. So if you ever want to see us on YouTube, Twitch maybe? We're on Twitch. What's the other one that you were want to see us on YouTube, Twitch maybe? We're on Twitch. What's the other one that you were trying to get us on? Quibi? Kick? Kick. Yeah.

They paid you by the hour. Built a whole boat out of kick. Dude, you get so much of the percentage. Twitch takes too much money. Anyway, I don't even know. No, none of that matters. Anyway, yeah, so we're high atop my garage today and We have a couple of dudes in here Jonathan and Preston and they are

Cinematography that's a fancy thing man for a guy walking around with a camera, right? You're cinematographer, are we? We'll get We'll get Preston a microphone in it after Are we? Yeah. Yeah. There's some photography in those. We'll get pressed in a microphone after weekend check. But you guys work on, or at least you have worked for Netflix, right, as a contractor, I guess? Yeah, working on the Jerry Dock and quarterback. Nice. Season two just came out. OK. I guess yeah, yeah working on the Jerry duck and quarterback nice

Season two just came out. Okay, so that'll be a big part of our sports talk today. I think is oh, yeah What's the deal? Did you get to meet? Alexander Davis Is Preston cool with Kip being on his lap? I guess He's a very friendly dog, yeah, the other one is not so much. He doesn't like people, but he likes dogs. He will pick up a napkin on you. Okay, so yeah, that's what's coming up on the show, I guess. Do we want to just jump right into it? Wednesday we got Sarah Heppela and Grady Spencer. That's a fun one. Thursday we have a remote. I really like the little schedule you put out today. Thank you.

Is that new? New bit? Why did you call it the Anged schedule? The Anged schedule? The Jason calendar is for the subbies through email. I feel like that's maybe a little older demographic. But good listener Angela said we need to put something on social media. Angela? Okay, that's something on social media. Angela? Okay, that's not for Angelo. Got it. No, no, no, no, no.

I wonder if they know each other. I don't think so. So yeah, that was a part of our quarterly meeting and now they can't say we don't listen. Yeah. We cater to our audience. That's right, whatever you want, we'll do all the time. Weekend check?

I'll go first. No, well, let's say it's brought to us by Qualis Roofing, because we couldn't even sit in this den high atop my garage without Qualis Roofing. In fact, there might be a little drizzle. There was. Bro, need the rain, huh? Dude. What a weekend. I know.

A nice weekend rain. It let up enough on Friday to go ahead and get that lawnmowed. I think that's why you're in a good mood. And then it rains over the weekend. Everything's so green and lush. These temperatures in July. Oh my gosh. Are you kidding?

Yeah, so if you need a roof, it's allrcgc.com. It'll keep that weather off of you. Yeah. Completely off of you. But they roofed the den, they roofed my whole house, and the best thing was, only thing out of pocket for me was deductible. Now you must have had to haggle with the insurance company. They dealt with the calls, because I've done, I was actually- Unbelievable. We had like a car accident previous right around the same time and I was on the phone with the insurance company all the time and for the same question three days or they dealt with all of that. They take it all out of your hands. They just get you a new roof It's brand spanking new they'll just you could try one on if you don't like it.

Try to take it off and put it back. I don't know if they do that. Yeah, I think they have like a Nike ID thing for roofs where you can kind of customize the patterns. Roof death. Find out at qualisgc.com or the phone number is 817-500-9008. Maybe Clayton go first. Let's let Clayton go first. Whoa.

What do you got, FoodieCK? He has called for the ball. He called for the ball. Sometimes he'll be like, I didn't do much this weekend. You know me. I watch TV. And we've all played sports. Sometimes a guy calls for the ball, and you're like,

I'm going to do this so he doesn't do it again. And you throw him the ball. I'm just kidding. No, I mean, I normally don't do much on the weekends. But Friday, I was trying to get out of here, get to the coin show, didn'm just kidding. No, I mean, I normally don't do much on the weekends, but Friday I was trying to get out of here, get to the coin show, didn't make it. No. We missed the coin show.

No. Checks out that the coin show closes at 5 o'clock. There's another day. Got up early Saturday morning, got a breakfast sandwich. What's early? 8.30. OK. OK.

Saturday. Trying to scoreboard Clayton over there? I'm just curious what's early to 8.30. OK. OK. For Saturday. Trying to scoreboard Clayton over there? I'm just curious what's early to him. OK. Because he'll sleep till noon on you. Yep. Nice. We'll do that.

Did that Sunday. Yeah, went to the coin show early in the morning. Saw some familiar faces. Had some good talks with people. There's a coin community, Jay. Yeah, there's a community. And I don't get to see these people but like once every quarter. Well how's the state of things? Was that on purpose? Huh? It felt like it was on purpose and I wasn't even gonna. Well no there's a calendar and it's split into quarters

and they have a coin show every quarter that's how calendars work. Oh I like it. Spicy. And I'm trying to give you credit. Go ahead then It's it say things are good the price of silver is up So there's a lot of sales going on a lot of people buying right now. Do you own silver? Me yeah, yeah. Oh Okay, I'm sorry. Well, it is a dumb question. What, for a guy like Clayton? For a guy at a coin show. Yeah, okay. I feel like, you know, not a lot of people

showing up at the reptile show, like I'm more of a dog person. You don't have a shelter, right? A bunker? No. Like a prep, okay. Also a dumb question. Why?

Because why would he tell you? Ah, okay. Because I'd just be knocking on that door with the dating. all this before that like if things go good and our relationship is, is good by the time things go bad in the world, I will give you the coordinates to a location. It's up to you to get there, but if you can get there, we will take care of each other. I'm great with geography. This will be perfect. Could we give Dan coordinates?

Yeah, what does that even like Eddie? So I made some deals. Yeah came out on top and I figured you know what I love this hobby It's a fun hobby. I got into it with my family a long time ago And I'm gonna share the wealth with you boys. I got y'all present Okay, and the coin show go to work share the wealth with you boys. I got y'all presents. Okay. From the coin show. Go to work. Intern Henry is...

Now here's the test. Those are themed, so will Henry know who's is who's? Intern Henry handed a bag. I think I see mine. I think I see his as well. The silver one's for Dan, that's for Blake. Henry only knows one speed and it's pond water. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha got up and done it myself. What do we have here? Oh, look at that. Interesting. A Superman coin. I got a... or something. I got a coin that essentially indicates we didn't walk on the moon. It's a conspiracy theory. You're

in on this? Okay, we'll talk. We'll talk. Take a look at this coin I just received there. Wow. Well, thank you, Clayton. Yeah. So I made a day of it Saturday. There's one last thing. Head depth has been a common theme. It has. We got some more head depth emails.

I made a day of it and went to a couple of the vintage shops around. And I got a new hat for you guys. For us? Oh, for you to wear. It's for me to for you guys. For us? Oh for you to wear. It's for me to show you guys. Oh dude I have wanted a production guy with a cowboy hat for so damn long. That's an identity right there.

As long as the headphones work. I like it. Dude. He's cowboy guy. Head depth is a thing. He pays attention to Oklahoma State. Of course he has headdressed. I apologize to Clayton because you gave me from a fine listener at the Hot Springs Marina. Yeah. A hat and I looked at it and I thought hmm. That's not the one I thought

was for you. And yes I put it on. Yeah you look like a little... That's no good. Nah. I don't think it does. I got this roomie, Lone Star beer hat. I feel like the bill is not far enough out. I don't know. But the point is... Maybe it's just that it's not curved? It's got about... It's... But that one was for Blake.

I thought Blake would do well with that one. I feel like Blake's head is pretty big though. Especially after somebody comes in and Sucks him off cuz he's good at softball. Okay, we'll get to that and Blake's weekend check If you we can hook him up now if you want Preston the other Mike Oh Preston, so I'll Missed I'm gonna work backwards Okay, because as you guys know on Friday when I was do came here to do the show

My two kids six and two left for the weekend They're not even back until six o'clock today Wife was scheduled to go on a 40 or 50 person party barge on the lake from 1130 to 530 on Saturday So dude the clips album came out Thursday night. I was like cloud nine Got a lot done, but I'm gonna start with Sunday we'll work backwards I went to go see the dinosaur movie oh against my natural instincts did you go alone no I went with my wife last night okay so

though I saw the one that came out in 2015 like the reboot of Jurassic World the one with Chris Pratt and I loved it. I thought that was an honest, good, like it felt like the people who made it got it. They made one in like 2017 or 18 that was dog shit. I did not like it. Then they made one in 22 and off the taste of 2018 I was like I'm not going back for that. We're done. Right? So the 2015 one was good. the taste of 2018, I was like, I'm not going back for that. We're done, right? So the 2015 one was good. So then they had this one coming out, and I don't want anything to do with it,

but then you guys are like, you're Dino, man. Why don't you go see your little Dino movie? And I said, I think it's gonna suck. But then I was looking into it, and the guy who wrote the first Jurassic Park 30 years ago, he wrote this one. He wrote the first one, 30 years ago, he wrote this one. He wrote the first one and then the first sequel in like 96. So you started getting a little tingly.

I was like, fuck, I don't know, man. This feels like, you know, bringing your first producer back. So I went to go see it last night and it's horrible. It's a terrible movie. Oh. Do you feel like you have to morph into a velociraptor or something. Not quite.

I don't know. You may be. Is that just a meme that I saw? That may be a meme, but she's not good in it, because there's nothing for her to work with. It's just a bad movie. It's just not good. It's two hours and 15 minutes.

Was it too woke? No. No. And I do want to talk about the Superman thing with you at some point. I've been reading about that a little bit. And you know, it's like he was always an immigrant from before. But it's not woke. It's just, it's actually, what I would say it is,

it's a little more suspenseful and scary than most of them have been. All lady dinosaurs. It's not as like the woke thing is there, but not woke, it's just a normal Jurassic Park, you're fighting against corporations, right? Like there's a greedy money guy, and the plot is they've gotta go extract DNA

from these three big dinosaurs to solve heart disease, right, to noble cause. But now we get this nerd involved, and he's like in a moment of like, you know, hey secrecy, what if we don't give it to Big Pharma and we give it, we open source it. That's a word people use now on Jurassic fucking Park, open source, that's.

So anyways, that's the plot. And it's not good. But you know, I did it for you guys. I tried. What I did, fully working chronologically backwards, before that, I was driving down Grapevine Highway yesterday and I saw that Cousins Maine Lobster Food Truck was at the Grapevine Food Mart.

Don't know if you guys are familiar. Incredible lobster rolls at a truck. They've been on Shark Tank. You told me about that. Like, I don't know. They also have pictures of them on like Family Feud. So somehow this business is nationwide now, but you're not getting lobster in Grapevine.

So I sat there and ate $52 lobster sandwich off my car tray and was frankly still full, but felt like I had to do it, you know? Felt like it was there, I had to do it. Yeah, it was out of your hands. So what I did earlier in the day, my dad lives out near Argyle now at Robeson Ranch.

It's like a little retirement community. And a lot of times when I see my parents, especially him, it's transactional, right? You drop off a kid, I pick up a kid, we go. We do have phone calls, but we don't go eat anymore with kids. I don't have any free time, but they were gone, so I'm like, bet, let's drive out there.

So he picks a lunch place that's in Argyle. I guess I'll leave the name out for now and we can see how this goes. So the first thing I want to show you guys, because you were really into the picture that I showed you for Father's Day, this is a photo my dad has from when he first got his job. I think this is is in like 1978 this is peak Chappie right here and I wanted Put this online this is when my dad was working in the in the warehouse like in the on the floor at UPS He's got fucking headband just absolute swag that of his mind. He's a hot dude He is and you know never worked at another place.

So he grinded that all the way through. But so we went to this lunch place that he was real excited about. And it's like a farm to table type place out in Argyle. So there's not that many of those out there. You know this place is gonna do crazy numbers. We got there at like 1050. It's a type of place where it's counter service.

It's like an upscale type place, but it's a type of place where it's counter service it is it's like an upscale type place but it's a counter service and then you go seat yourself so family style seating you may be a table with eight seats and it's just you and dad and then next to you there's a family right so we're looking at the menu on the wall that the line's like probably 12 to 15 deep. And he and I are kind of talking and I'm like, I'm going to get this. It's a breakfast item. And a guy in front of us goes, hey, they stopped serving breakfast at 11.

Which, for those of you who are not in the douchebag brunch game, if a restaurant's going to be open from 7 to 2 on Saturday and Sunday they don't stop serving breakfast at 11. You serve your brunch menu and breakfast menu until 2. That's a very weird thing to do. So a guy that worked there said that? No. A guy in front of us in line. Because it was 1050 you stated when you walked in. I know. I thought that was early for lunch. And now we're in line. Oh, so he overhears your conversation i'm gonna have this right okay and uh so if somebody engages chappy like they're cooked now so i want to show you the

most dad photo ever as now this guy wants to now dad's interested and he's going down the whole menu with him he's hitting him with a what's here. Classic what's good here photo you can see on the screen here. Younger man about my age and dad's, the neck leaning. Yeah, Saturday they're not gonna. Neck leaning. They might close that during the weekday. Yeah, but it was Sunday, but still that's the move. So they've got a breakfast menu, they got a lunch menu.

So I'm fucking, ugh, I'm a breakfast guy, I'm upset. And I look over at the lunch menu and I see avocado toast with eggs. And I'm like, you know what? That's close enough. And I look at the breakfast menu and the lunch menu and it's exactly the same. And I'm like, okay, if it were different, maybe, but it's lunch. So I get up to the counter, it's 11.05. And I was like, hey, you know, I know y'all are like just opened. Do you, you don't do breakfast until close on the weekend even? Like I understand during the week, but she's like, well it depends on how busy we are. And I'm like, well, I wanted to order the lunch avocado toast.

And I was going to see if you could give me a side of bacon with it. She was like, oh, that's no problem. All right. So we go sit down. They bring me my mint lemonade, which is a sort of thing you can now enjoy when you're not a drunk and hammering 9% loggers

at breakfast at 11 on Sunday, which is 100% the move. They bring me the lemonade and then like 10 minutes later they bring me the avocado toast. Which is kind of weird. And I'm like, okay, so I'm going to wait to eat type of guys. Dan Jones. Did you not mention? I go, I think this is just part of the order. And they go, it's coming.

Oh, OK, good. And so now I've waited five minutes. My dad's like, just eat. And I was like, I'm not eating. And it's not because I'm being courteous. It's because I want to crisp up that bacon on this avocado toast. Sure.

I've been thinking about this. And five more minutes passed. Now it's been 20 minutes since we ordered. And I'm like, I'm just going to eat. So that takes about 90 seconds. This fucking hipster avocado toast. I needed three more. Um, now we're at 20 minutes, 22 minutes I've eaten. Maybe 25 minutes.

We grab somebody. She appears to be a manager. And I'm like hey, I think we got something going on here. And she's like no the avocado toast, that one, that think we got something going on here. And she's like, no, the avocado toast, that's a quick one that comes out. I'm like, what? We're 25 minutes in now. She hustles off. Five minutes later, now we're at 30 minutes,

I grab her and I'm like, hey, I think we got a mix up here because I think that my breakfast thing, like set us sideways here, I ordered the lunch avocado toast. I want to be very clear. And she's like, yeah, it's just the breakfast stuff really kind of slows us down.

And I'm like, that's not an answer. I don't know what happened. Where's the rest of our stuff? And she's like, it's coming. So then at 35 minutes, they brought me a thing of fries and bacon. They brought my dad his lunch. It was really weird. Like they didn't see the problem.

Yeah. Why wouldn't you bring out the toast thing at the same time? They were like, confused why we thought this was a problem. Yeah. You ordered. Then I thought like, and I was looking around like, maybe it's the bacon, but the bacon is not explicitly a breakfast item. And, uh, I said that out loud to my dad I was like, yeah, I think maybe the Brick the bacon screwed us up. He's like no kid next to you had bacon ten minutes ago He's watching everybody and what I'm doing is managing him from turning into a male Karen, you know

I'm like, well that not worth is that possible with him cuz well you know what it is is I'm at the age and the place in life now with running a business where I seriously consider actually having like a neutral conversation with the owner and being like yo I feel like you should know that this happened like that like Adam and eats he's tells us like hey if you got something right I had a pizza that was weird and he's like tell me in our h2o last couple weeks ago, they had a massive fail. Right, I'm not here bitching, I don't need.

But I feel like you should tell them. Right, because they would want to know. Yeah, but. Wouldn't you want to know if somebody. But my dad's version of I think they would want to know, it's going to sound like an old asshole. Yeah. I feel like I might be able to pull it off,

but I instead was just like, all right, yeah, I guess I'll just eat these fries. And then, you know, we left. And to do the generational thing, my dad was like, for 56 bucks, not coming back here. No way. And I'm like, that's just what it costs. And we had a nice time. Like this desire to make this, like, these people suck and I'm going to make sure that

everyone knows it. The world... I was like whatever bro we have had a shift in the cost of a meal oh no doubt you got to update everything right like a hundred grand is not like the same I thought if you made a hundred grand when I was a kid it's like Dunsey but over but 25 bucks a I think, anywhere you go is almost... Dude, and it's not just... It's gonna be pretty common. It's not just old people.

But my wife thinks... My wife, dude. She's like... She thinks we have to be at the finest steakhouse in the world to have a meal that would add up to $25. Oh yeah. Yeah, and it's pretty great too when you're me. You could be a post-the-beat out.

Because when that check comes out and they're like, $80? And I'm like, looks like each entree was 25. So where did this, oh. Hmm. Well, but when you're you now. That's what she's always like, just order a mocktail. Order a mocktail. I'm like, I'm not paying a fucking $9 for syrup and water.

It's not happening. And I know why you're doing it. You don't want to feel guilty. But you're also a good dude who will split a bill as am I yeah but the alcohol thing doesn't always the alcohol yeah the alcohol really sends it into whack and my wife will want to you know that ain't worth it let's itemize it so that we don't pay and like look'm like, look, whatever. We're hanging out with you. Do they offer you a survey at the bottom or anything?

I don't think so. Give us two minutes of your time. You could win a $5 million gift card. Go to Yelp. Do you ever get the server that's like, hey, could you please fill it out? I do and I don't. They beg you. I do and I don't.

I do and I do. I complained to a survey this weekend. Complained to a survey? Yeah, That's, complained to a survey? Yeah, because often times they'll give you free food, which is really my end goal, but I also need to, I need them to know that their employees suck. Like this place I go to, they are so overwhelmed by so little, it drives me insane.

Because I try to time my order to pick up at 1.35, I know I gotta show up at 1.40, food's not ready yet. Oh, it'll be five to ten minutes. And it's all because they had two to-go orders before mine. Right, and then they'll tell you that. And then on the app they, hey please tip. They're like, hey I'm a to-go order. Right.

All to-go orders met. I gave you ample time to get my order ready, and it's not. And I got to sit here. Yeah. But I didn't get free food. Well I got a lot more, but I'll tell you guys about that later on in the week. Oh, I should tell you this real quick.

Brahms has Soapapilla Cheesecake Ice Cream. They're leaning heavily into the Mexican thing. They have six new Mexican flavors. I tried all three of them, or three of the six. Great look for Brahms. That's a good one. Also, Brahms somehow still insanely cheap Family friendly now. It's a great place to go. I got my Slurpee Friday good for you 7-eleven after fighting rated. I saw you on a

Social media social media let the world know and they they were very happy that you did that it was delightful Thank you, and then on Saturday. I took Brooks to Chuck E. Cheese. Wow. And I haven't been, I haven't been inside of one in 25 years. They still got a ball pit? No, that had to be killed during COVID, right? Ah, yeah. I feel like I saw one at the grapevine, but maybe I'm, I'm misremembering. I've been a couple of times in the last handful of years. It had been a long time before that, but I know the current set up. Our kids getting sicker now because they're not getting all that, what do you call it, exposure or whatever. Antibodies. Yeah. That's how we, that's how, yeah, that's how we were all built. We should bring back the ball pit. Mandatory ball pits in every restaurant.

You should drink out of hoses again, man. Hell yeah, you know We should also just stop giving water to kids who are water for the week. Yeah, yeah, you probably grew up in that era Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Remember the Titans killed more kids in football camps and any other movie So I went to the Rockwell one. They had a trampoline Park kind of thing and at Charles Entertainment that a trampoline. kind of thing. At Charles Entertainment, they had a trampoline. Yeah, they went through some big rent of, I don't know. Rent of? Well, they went bankrupt. There was a bunch of that going on.

So it was redone. It was nice. I walked in there. And I guess they got to put a stamp on your hand as soon as you walk in and as soon as you leave. I was confused by that because I hadn't been in a long time. The employee was wearing a mask. I couldn't really hear him.

There's a million sounds going on and this very quiet guy is saying left hand. But I thought he needed Brooke's hand and I gave him my right. I was very confused by the situation. And this guy at Chuck E. Cheese told cheese told me no your other left hand. Oh I just wanted to just Grab his shirt collars. I don't need this from you employee. Yeah, but he gave it

Just put me in a bad mood for the rest of time I was there but no you other left hand I got suckered. They have a monthly pass. Oh Jesus dude, you're gonna have to hit up like we got to get one of these Services that goes through your bill you haven't been there Guy on the payroll I'll certainly be back here Next month it was I'll certainly be back here next month. It was $60 for unlimited, like you can go every single day

for $60 for two months. Or I could spend $21 for 30 minutes. Wait, unlimited every time you go? Well, it's unlimited visits with a capped amount of. Yeah, but the amount that they give you is plenty for one day. So all I have to do is go three more times and I've made money.

You know. So we gotta go back. I got two months to go three times. I feel like we can do it. I feel like as much time as you spend solo with your son, you actually probably might be able to pull this off. Maybe let Jake borrow it. Do you want it?

I mean, the thing for me, when we went, we went to a birthday party where you had unlimited play and as I told you guys, uh, Nora, she went tism, stim, stimming like a demon that day because they gave her unlimited coins and they had a deal where you could just put the coin in and it moves the coins closer. Yeah. And she's like, they're going to fall, they're going to fall. And we just sat there for an hour.

Yeah. Just putting coins in and watching, like her friends are gonna fall, they're gonna fall. And we just sat there for an hour, just putting coins in and watching, like her friends are playing all this other stuff. No, and you know what else? You win a ton, because eventually they all fall. Right. We might've made money that day. Yeah, Brooks hammered this Paw Patrol wheel

where he'd just like scan, play, scan, play, scan, play. The band doesn't exist anymore, by the way. You should note that. No, they've got a projector with music videos playing, it's weird. The Chuck E. Cheese that walks around is incredibly spare. But it was cool, I mean a ton of games. So we have the monthly pass, he had 40 tokens to play that day. And so every five or 10 I'm like, alright, 30 left, 20 left, 10 left.

And then when we got down to five, I said, dude, you've got five plays left. And I could see the wheels clicking in his head. So we went to the next game. Do you wanna play this? He'd look at it. No, no, no, not this. Goes here. No, I don't wanna play this.

Yeah, I wanna play this one. That's good, learning like an investment strategy. Something Angelo cannot do. Damn. A stray for the hobo. Now comes back to the hobo. Of course. Cause I'm sitting there, I'm like proud of my three year old saying

okay you understand the value of like something running out, you need to make it last. Resource allocation. And my homeless guy can't even do that. I don't know how much I love you saying my homeless guy. I pay for him, he's my homeless guy. What if it's just a misunderstanding

because it's text, but he needs the visual and he needs the tone of your voice? So what if you take him to Chuck E. Cheese, had that exact same day with him? To Econ 101. Yeah, and then you could at the end of the day, you're running out. You go, OK, now this is.

And then when you're done, you go, this is like the card. Right. I should do a case study. How much does he spend of that 100 that you put on a legend? He hasn't spent much. He's still probably got like 50 bucks left. Wow. That 32 dollar trip to Lowe's.

But you did tell him. You've got 100 and that's it. For the month or something. Yeah, that started like last Monday or Sunday. But this is good though. Yeah, it's progress. I feel like, I literally feel like an economist being involved in this. I love watching it.

It's a social experiment. So James Crowley, good dude, he invited us to the rugby banquet last year. I went, they had it again. I went because they said they had a water slide and I needed something to do with Brooks. But again, people that play rugby look like they play rugby.

They drink like they play rugby. And they also will get in your personal space. Yeah. They're space invaders. Yeah, they'll throw an arm around you. They'll put an arm around you at the bar. Yep. They love long sleeve shirts with collars.

Why? And stripes too? They just hammered that keg. Yeah. They just hammered that keg. It was amazing watching them drink. And then he's like, you need to play, you need to play. There's not a sport I would rather play less than rugby.

Looking at those guys, those big beefy beer drinking guys are just gonna come way late I know I I would love to but I don't have it like that, but you might though. No, I don't want to get it I don't want to get tackled by them No, thank you. I hate guys like you But okay, but like I was telling James okay all the explosive in the world down there. Okay, they break my leg in the world down there. Okay, they break my leg. What was it for? What happened to my leg?

Rugby? Yeah. Hell no, I'm out. And then of course Sunday was the All-Star game. And this is why there can be no rugby, because it could mess up that 405 pole swing. This is your softball. Yeah, and so it was right after the championship games

and there were, I think they said 186 people watching the championship games. Online? In person. Oh. And so the stands were full and the reason I say that is because I met Chris there who could show himself this time he didn't have to hide. The scout of Blake's Scout. Yeah. Yeah he was at almost every game filming in the background trying to do his best to hide. And obviously now he is known to the league. Yes.

So the rest of the softball dudes in their 50s or whatever are like, oh cool. And as we're sitting. A podcast. As we're sitting there talking. What's hotter than that? It's like a couple guys will walk by, they'll look at us and they'll do the double take.

Yes. Because they know it's Chris. Like, hey that's that guy. And then this other group will kind of look over. He was a celebrity out there on Saturday. And there was not a single person that hated the bit. Now luckily I was the only cardinal to make the All-Star game, so I don't know why anyone else would have a problem. But yeah dude, he was a celebrity out there

Yeah, he sent us a report. I wish he didn't It sounds like the worst game you've had all year Yeah, so once you're surrounded by people that are more on your level Yeah, once you get the dude is just painting the black. I just haven't played in a month, and I don't care about this game Oh, I think those are all possibilities, but I think the biggest one Dude is just painting the black. I just haven't played in a month and I don't care about this game. Oooh. I think those are all possibilities, but I think the biggest one, and it's completely okay to admit it, is you were pressing. You knew everybody out there wanted you to put one, you know.

Chris said, the PA guy did me a salad and played Blake's walk-up song Gary Glitter's Rock and Roll Part 2. You're a big Gary Glitter guy, right? Oh yeah. He and I were the only ones laughing. Blake's Cardinals coach, a great guy named Caesar, is coaching third and pointed at me and then to the parking lot because I'm not helping BJ today. He said he was like, hey, you were 0 for 2 at that time And then yeah, you popped up the second base to go over three suck I mean again, I didn't see I didn't watch the videos, but based on the the description of the at bats it felt like

It felt like a dole lease up there a little bit You're trying to yeah put on a little bit of a show Yeah, the first I mean if my first plate appearance they put all of the fielders on the left side. And so I just tried to rip it to the left and popped up. Did they really? Yeah. They did the Blake shift? Yeah.

So you tried to Ted Williams? I'll head over it? Yeah, I'm not going to put it down the right field. I'm not going to do that. They gave Chris a jersey? Yeah, they gave Chris a jersey. That was awesome. That's your a jersey? Yeah, they gave Chris a jersey. That was awesome.

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But right now I'm just trying to make it a little more aesthetically pleasing You know and maybe Able to move around for you know the games and all that kind of stuff. I got a new table here Don't know if you noticed that This is new did not Don't know if you noticed that. Mm-hmm. This is new did not Because my wife thinks it's only at home and I'm like, no, I just don't notice anything anywhere I cleared off the entire back shelf and Put only things up there that have been given to us

By dumb zone listeners. Okay. My plan is to clear off all of the little Cubby holes in that shelf as well and put only dumb zone listeners. Okay. My plan is to clear off all of the little cubby holes in that shelf as well and put only dumb zone listener stuff in there. Maybe even take some pictures off the wall and put just you know people have given us so much stuff and it's just time for a change. It's time for like I said a Remo. I was even thinking of um remember Betsy, who has helped us out with so much stuff? I feel like she would be somebody that would be able to help visualize what, doesn't she feel like an organizer and just

someone who would, I need like a, didn't you say your wife might be able to do this? Walk in here and help, because I can't visualize anything. I don't know what's going to look good. Yeah, that's her game. I think it was what she wanted to do as maybe a late in life career until she did it for our house and then decided maybe I just want to do this kind of on the side. But yeah, she can hook it up.

And then we bought a new fridge for the Game Day Men's Health Studio. Hell yeah. And I moved this fridge, so now you can lean back. It's not behind you anymore. But I was thinking, maybe we need the Game Day Men's Health Studio fridge in here and that fridge there. Feels like stuff we can talk about. I don't know, because we need these guys

to be able to grab a Lone Star beer if they need to. Yeah, somebody asked the other day. Somebody asked at the studio. I still don't know if we can do beer at the studio. I think that that different media entity than us is an interesting proposition, given the podcast that occurs across the hall from us. But that one seems to be pretty heavily wine based.

Never mind. The mom pod, mom game that we have there. So I don't know. But I was just gonna say I still post alcohol when I have a kegerator in a studio one day. It can be full of thrown sport coffee. I don't care, but the kegerator is success. Much like the hot tub.

I did not see Superman. No, okay. I saw how many people did though. Had a big opening weekend. And I really regret it. If I knew you were going to Jurassic Park, I might have forced myself to go see Superman, but. You didn't take Kip and Bodhi to see Superman? I did not. Did you see that was a thing? People

taking their dog because there's a dog on screen? Yeah. No, that is the bad bit of all bad bits. Are the theaters just allowing this? I thought this was sent to you a million times. I did not know this at all. And they put capes on them. No. I feel like, and I don't know, maybe this happened already. I feel like we were already clawing it back. But of things that could be back under Trump, one of them should just be like, let's tighten the service animal thing a little bit.

No? I think they have. I think they, yeah, probably that's already. They've already walked back a little. You can't take a duck on a plane anymore But at one point I think you could just feeding gay marriage slippery slope guy That's why Tim Ryan got in trouble because he was mocking the person that took their mini horse on a plane

Oh, yeah, the fun Fox So that took their mini horse on a plane. Oh yeah, the fun fox four. So this will lead us into sports and talking about the QB show and whatnot on Netflix, but I did watch a bit of TV though and I've been watching World War II in color and I'm realizing I have read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, which is awesome. But there's just a lot I just don't know or maybe just forgot. Like you ever read or watch a thing on D-Day? Yeah, but I mean there's probably always more, right? The stuff we did, like what I didn't realize, it's like a game where don't they in college football they'll have like two coaches sending in signs, but one of them's fake. Oh, way more than two.

Yeah, but sure. Do they really? Dummy signs. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's huge in war. And I guess I never really realized that or thought about it.

You know, when I, I would say the first time, and this is just top of mind, cause it's the only book that I've read in the last year. So maybe the last one is that's big in Guns of August. Is it? Yeah, because they were like doing stuff where they were just canceling each other out on top of each other.

Like, well, we did that. So they're going to do this. Now we know we have to, it was was and it was all just like this parallel Well BS the D-Day invasion was certainly one where they did a lot so they Number one like in I guess getting across the the channel or whatever They secretly somehow laid an oil pipe Oil whatever so that they could fuel up once they got close. It was really weird that they secretly did that at night.

And then they were trying to throw them off the scent on exactly where they were going to land. Like it was, I guess, enough chatter that Germany was kind of reeling. You know, this was, the tide was turning. They were doing pretty bad over there in Russia. So then. The US now gets into the mix, and they had like a whole fake army with inflatables so that their intel was showing, oh, man, they're going to hit this one beach

because it's the closest from, you know, to get across the river or the channel or whatever it is. And so they had a whole, like they had film of it where guys had fake, they were fake tanks. They were all inflatables, fake everything. That's crazy. Fake people. In fact, when they were doing the invasion, when the invasion initially started, they brought a lot of planes deep into France and parachuted fake people.

They were actual mannequins or dummies. They called them Ruperts. And because they wanted the Germans to send, oh, we got to send people over there. But it was all to throw them off the scent as to where what exactly was happening and where. But that happened all over the place as I'm watching this series. Like this is a big part of a war is just deception. I've never heard of this with regard to D-Day. These tanks, yeah, I mean obviously from... You see it now?

Yeah, aerial I could see, you know, fooling and that's the whole point, but up close they look ridiculous. Right, and that's all it's about. They look like bounce houses. That's all it's about is the aerial, you know, and seeing how many people are around and all this kind of stuff. That's crazy. Very cool. Yeah. I did a fair piece of TV this weekend including the quarterback I wrapped up tires okay do you want to do a quick we could do yeah a quick review

of the finale I knew I knew when you told me you didn't like the finale that it already had bear season one or whatever written all over it where they were gonna find a way out suddenly Well, that wasn't it. It was like everything's gonna be everything's after the end. It's not totally right that didn't bother me so much the bear especially bothered me because it was like a It was Roseanne won the lottery type thing. It was just so whatever and it just seemed nonsensical too. It was in like, you know, they've sealed up cans.

I didn't buy any of it. But I just thought it was just too feel goody throughout the whole show. It wasn't their show. Just the finale. Just the finale. That show is busting balls, making fun of everybody. There isn't necessarily a feel-good message, you know, it's, but it was, it was, uh, it was gay. I didn't like,

the final episode didn't feel like this is a Shane Gillis vehicle. Like it felt like... Yeah, I know what you mean, but like they've already kind of introduced the you know the theme of the show to me is like Lost potential and like applying yourself right and they've already introduced the romantic angle of it Which is you know not necessarily it's not like Shane's doing a whole lot of relationships stuff it in his Stand-up, you know he's got like the Navy SEAL and the black guy bit. But yeah, but he ruined that relationship. Yeah, I guess that didn't turn out. But you can tell on it.

You can just tell throughout the second season, they're doing like the, you know, you could have done more. Like you could have been, you've applied yourself. You don't want to do anything. You don't want to try it. Anything. You don't take life seriously. So I don't know. That wasn. You don't want to try it anything. You don't take life seriously, so I Know that wasn't in the first season as much

Kind of hot That's not this show that's not who she is. Yeah, and the other thing I think about that show Maybe you guys have a word for this. It's probably very basic The thing that sometimes drive drives me a little crazy about about it It has Silicon Valley disease where every episode, you're just like, God, this is gonna go horribly. Like everything they're doing, you know the plot so well, like the blocks of the plot, where they can't ever do anything right. It'll look like they will for a second.

Shucks. Again, they didn't. I like the studio I have like I think I'm one left I watched two more this weekend oh that's a bit maddening to me okay so I like the studio have you guys watch that I have Apple TV show it's a bit wanker like it's a bit masturbatory here like I feel like Seth Rogen is making that show out of frustrations he's at and working in Hollywood, but it's also still good. I love, I kind of love the idea of it, the storylines and stuff.

The one problem I have with the studio is Seth Rogen is miscast. Yeah, we've talked about this. It is weird. That person that he's playing is perfectly classed for underling of studio exec, but guy running a studio, like that guy would never be running a studio. So indecisive, so like, that guy's me, maybe. He's all over the place and he's always screwing things up or whatever, but not, I just don't think he would be

in his position. And some shows he is like more level-headed and calm. Like when it's the, when the storyline is on the girl or some of the underlings all of a sudden they go to Seth Rogen and he's like a wise sage who can quickly answer this question but if the storylines about Seth Rogen then he's running around with his hair I'm like it doesn't really make sense in that way but it's a fun show I do think it's fun and you guys boss is heavily

mentioned in the the awards the Golden Globes one. He's trying to get Zoe Kravitz to thank him in his speech and it's all about the Netflix guy Ted Sarandas and He's like Jesus like how do you get all these people to thank that's the last one I watched Yeah, and he's just like how do you think it's in there? contract Silverstein or whoever that was a funny episode, but he's like, why else would they thank me? Right. He's like, you're a money, you're a bean counter. And I don't know, that was a funny one.

Right before my kids left, I watched Madagascar for the first time. I think I told you guys this. It's referenced in a clip song. And in the lead up to the album, I was listening to a lot of clips and I thought I am gonna life is watching kids watching Madagascar with your kids and this line jumped out at me

okay let's make a good impression on the people smiles everyone let's get it together so this is four animal friends. Is that the best you can do, Melman? Oh, I'm not smiling. It's gas. Okay, well great. Let's make gas look good. They're about to enter a party, these four animal friends. One of them is voiced by Chris Rock. Wow.

That's not people. It's animals. California animals. Dude. This is like a puffy party! I like to move it, move it! Alright, so you heard the phrase that pays in there. It's like a puffy party. And I just wonder how many, you know, obviously it was referencing Rapshard. I thought you said puppy.

I did too. Did I too? No. Well, it's animals! California animals, dude! This is like a puffy party! Okay, I heard puffy that time. animals, dude. This is like a puppy party So I heard puffy that time. Okay, and it's you know, it's it makes a lot of sense. It's Chris Rock Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also the that used to be like monkey or whatever. This guy is very did

I like to move it move it super creepy Never seen the movie Super creepy. Have you ever seen the movie? He has a very diddy like control over the party. He does a lot of raping in that movie. It almost makes it seem like he's diddy. Good movies I recall. Not bad at all.

Not bad at all. Like 06, 07 maybe? They were really early on that. Um, and yeah. Like oh six or seven maybe early on that and Yeah, you know it's been referenced in rap songs for a long time But it's just funny a kids movie like this is like those oiled up rape parties Well, you know kids are learning much younger these days they are You know so I was messing around on the weekend, too

Because you know how we did those, we had a couple of guys do testimonials, like Qualys, like videoed a couple of testimonials and talked about how many roofs they've sold based on, you know, the, what is it, ROI, right? Like the return on their investment into advertising. And they've gone 5x, 10x. I don't remember the number, but it's really worked well. So it was so cool that these guys did these little videos

for us and just talked about how well the advertising's working. Hopefully then, our salespeople, use those videos and give them to another business and say, look, these guys, they're tons of roofs, they're tons of... Vax of age. Air conditioners. Yeah, like Travis at Community Mechanical, they're like, seriously, we, your leads are great, your people are awesome, and then there's word of mouth from our people to our other people, and the word of mouth of how great community is for them and all that. So it really works well.

So anyway, I'm listening to this and thinking about sending it to a couple people I know. And I'm like, this doesn't sound right cold. Like there's nothing behind it. And so I made one of these with Jake in mind too. Cause just the way Travis was talking, I thought he was being too sappy about how much he loved us. So. We started advertising with the dumb zone because we had reached out to people who are already advertising

and had asked about their experience. We knew the connection that the dumb zone had with its fan base coming from the ticket and from other podcasts. Like doesn't he sound like he's a little too... What can be a valuable investment to us that was not only cost effective, but matched up Doesn't he sound like he's a little too... Very powerful. We match up with values. Core values like, we like this part of the house to be cold. Oh, here's a good part. And we like this part of the house a little warmer. Listen. Cost benefit ratio also

made sense. Cost benefit ratio, bro. We saw how much we had to spend even though we were a new company. Communitydfw.com. We knew that this was something that we wanted to do and it's really equally money that we've actually spent. They are good dudes. On advertising and it's been by far our best avenue that we've researched as far as getting

return. Return cost benefits what's their number? 469-667-7290 communitydfw.com we've got a community sit-in coming in here tomorrow. HVAC company So yeah, if you uh, that's the move Just at least get the preventative maintenance What are you doing get it I Had preventative maintenance and it saved me a lot of money on my AC system because it gets you 10% off your big over Oh yeah, I thought that was worthy. Oh yeah, now we're doing sports and that leads us into I guess talk with these guys here. Jonathan and Preston. Have I met you before Preston?

I don't think so. No? Okay. Possible though. I just feel like I have. Bald guy things. Maybe it's some bald empowerment. When you first started going bald, did you start going bald or did you just choose to shave your head? Oh man yeah. Because you looked like a big ass. High school. Like, was thinning really bad in the front. Oh no. And

I was just one of those guys that was like, not going to hold on, not going to do the thing. How old are you now? 40. Okay. But I started shaving my head at 20. I wore a half like two years and then I was just like, it is what it is. So I had a theory working with Bob all these years. Bob Sturm, you're familiar with Bob Sturm or no? Okay. I worked with a bald guy who went bald in his 20s. Yep. For many, I worked with him for many years. So many years that sometimes we'd meet someone that we met 15 years ago and they'd see Bob and they go, God you look great you haven't

changed a bit because he was bald when he was in his mid-20s he's still bald when he's 40 they think he looks great. They'd shake his hand, I haven't seen you since whatever and then he turned to me and go, oh hey, good to see you. Cause I look way different. I'm now I'm bald or gray or this or that. But I just wanted, I would like to go back and tell 20 year old you, cause certainly you're self conscious about it,

thinking this is my life is over, this sucks. But 20 years from then, you're gonna see people that are going to be like, you look awesome. You look the same as you did when you were 25. It's a tough acceptance road for sure. And then the first time you shave your head, I mean, everybody does the same thing. The first time you shave your head, you don't go the full mock three. You get a little, maybe an island for a while. You do like a one or whatever, because you don't know what it looks like under there.

Sure. You don't know how your head's shaped because you've had hair your whole life. So it's pretty terrifying, but you quickly just realize like, I'm just going to mock through this thing every night and just shave it. Are you a, do you tan that head or do you actually use some kind of bronzer thing? Because it looks great. No, no, I'm just, I've got that nice, tannable skin, you know? Okay.

Shout out to my mom on that one. Yeah. I don't think I've ever just stared at someone's skin during the show this long. It's really weird. I just can't put it in my mouth. It looks great. Yeah, sure. It's an honor to be.

No, but my head is way too white. My head is too white. Shout out to my mom. I don't do hats during summertime because obviously you'll look like Scottie Scheffler with that crazy tan line, but at least he's got hair. If I wear a hat for more than 10 minutes, you'll have that hard tan, it's just not a look.

But yeah, it was, starting to go bald in high school is pretty tough, especially when you're really awkward. I graduated high school like 140 pounds. And for reference, I'm like 225 right now. So that's a big gap. Yeah. You'd kick the shit out of little you. I guess just how did you guys both get into the game?

How you said you've been working together for 10 years. I want to talk about the quarterback. I want to talk about the Jerry show. But I'd also kind of like to know how you both ended up where you are. Yeah, mine was by accident. Well, where are you? Let's just say that. What are you? What's your title and stuff? What do you guys do? So we're both contractors. We work for ourselves. Freelance cinematography. Okay. Yep. So we shoot commercials, documentaries,

you know branded work for companies stuff for athletes personally things like that Yeah, yeah, I mean you got an LLC s corp man LLC is for Losers. Yeah, you gotta get as far as yours. Yeah. Yeah a lot better for taxes for sure. Okay. Yeah We get into everything really. Yeah. Yeah as Cororp is definitely the move for taxes, for sure. But you guys have a little thing together? No. No, we keep everything separate. We just found, I mean, I've seen over the years people

that go into business together, it's like a band. At some point, they break up, right? And the problem is, if you have stuff tied together and somebody just kind of dips out, you either have to buy them out or you got to figure out what that looks like. So we always just found it's easier to just do your own thing and just hire hire them when you need them which is pretty much

every time but it's just cleaner okay yeah and then we do a lot of work not a lot but we do some work separately so it's like if you have a business together and he goes into the shoot that I'm not on yeah do I get part of that money too or is you know how does that work? And then insurance and all that crap. So yeah, we found a good balance. But we got into it just complete accident. No school or like film school or anything like that. We just, yeah, it was just hobbies.

He got some dogs and one of them take pictures of them. I was doing some graphic design and like some audio engineering, stuff like that back in the day. Yeah I was just a corporate stiff in sales and we got a my wife and I got a dog and I was like I just want to take photos of the dog. Like professional-ish type photos like getting into photography. Yeah I mean I mean but even then just bought like a basic DSLR camera with a kit lens. Were you like were you someone you would thought of yourself as like a creative like in high school? No I just just got really bad ADD. So for me, like the world makes sense

visually. Like I can't sit and read. I've never read a book in my life because I respect within like two minutes, within two minutes my mind's wandering and I've just not retained the information. This is the longest I've ever seen him sit. Yeah. No, it's interesting. I just didn't know like what, what, what, like what'd you go to college for type thing? I went to college. Business is yeah. Business got a marketing degree. Yeah. I dropped out of college. Okay. But you weren't like creating in your like mid early twenties. Yeah, I was, I was doing some graphic design, some web design type stuff.

Always kind of been in the creative field, things like that. But just got a camera cause I had some friends that were doing it and they could, you know, like graphic designers, they could take their own picture and use it as a background. And I was like, Oh, that's cool. Cause you always have to buy some sort of stock image to use as a background. So I just started doing that and had some people that were like, Hey, can you take our family photos? Um, and did that. And then after that, you know, word kind of goes around and they

were like and some other people reach out and say hey can we pay you to take some family photos and you're like oh I could make some money and so just kind of part-time ish not even part-time just a couple weekends here and there you just go and take some family photos and then that turns into you start charging a little bit more as you get better at it and upgrading your equipment and then I just snowballed. I got into video started with just doing photo stuff. I got into video my wife was like a CrossFit Games athlete and so I would do some video stuff for her and then reached out to like some competition she

was doing and started videoing that stuff and that really kinda snowballed because there was not a lot of people doing that in like 2015-2014. Started doing that and that's actually where we met was at this really big CrossFit event in Miami. And how did you get from dog pics to the CrossFit part? So kind of the same. Just doing photography at the time. Doing the dog pics, you do family photos. At the time I was competing in jujitsu a lot, so I was taking photos of my buddies at competitions, stuff like that. And then as I got better, you buy better gear. People started asking, hey,

can I pay you to take photos of my matches, whatever. And then, you know, at the NNM Championships, World Championships, finally got to the point where I was shooting for some magazines, things like that. And then yeah, CrossFit was, at the time, was really blown up. And I talked to somebody who had done the CrossFit Games for Reebok, and they told me how much they made shooting that weekend. I was like, yo, what?

How much? I was like, it was for the weekend, I think he made like 12 or 13 grand. And I was like, yeah. That's way more than you had ever made in a weekend. Oh yeah. I mean, and even a corporate job, it's like, even with a good salary bi-weekly, you're still making, at the time, 2,500, 3 grand every two weeks. I was like, man, I can make, man,

it's like three months salary, you know, if you go shoot it. So my goal was to get into CrossFit, to try to get in front of like bigger brands and stuff like that. So I just started kind of same thing, hitting up competitions, had a buddy at the time, he was at a beverage company.

I was like, they're sponsoring a big event. I was like, hey, can I just come shoot for you guys for free? He was like, yeah. And then that kind of took everything off. It's awesome. Yeah, so just being willing to show up. Like most people, they ask for something and then they're like, well, how much is it gonna pay?

Versus I've always just been like, hey, can I show up? And I'm not asking to pay me anything. just because I had an idea of where I wanted to go and you're not gonna go there if you're you know trying to make the band yeah yeah exactly so it's uh yeah that's how we met and then we met I was running the video team for that and you were doing the photo team and we had like these kind of con Xboxbox office trailers and so like the video teams on one end the photo teams on the other end there's probably 10 to 15 people on each side. Yeah it was pretty packed. Yeah and he would

always come sit down by on our side which was weird like nobody did that there was a lot of cross pollination and we kind of met and talked a little bit and realized like, we both hate everybody else here. So he came and sat down on our end cause he hated all the other photographers. I would just like sitting there by myself and edit and do some stuff, but I didn't really like anybody else there. So we could, for some reason we could stay in each other

and then we ran into each other in Austin the week after there was another like CrossFit thing. My wife was competing I was just there and he was doing photos and we saw each other and we're like oh shit you're here. Cross the room. Yeah yeah literally he stands out in a room. I got red hair so you know people remember me and then realized we live like 45 minutes away from each other. You never talked about that in Miami, but like, and then I think it was pretty close after that we just started kind of running together on a couple things. Yeah, yeah, it was like that February I had a job come up in Boston and grabbed them because at the time I wasn't doing videos.

So are you guys familiar with CrossFit at all? Jake's big CrossFit guy. No, I'm an ape. I'm a Bobby Shroop guy, so I'm not allowed to be. So kind of like the heyday of CrossFit, people who know CrossFit will recognize these names, but like Katrin Davidsdottir from Iceland, we did a shoot with her in Boston because she was based there at the time.

And then I had a big project come up with Matt Fraser, who ended up being like- I've heard that name. Yeah, he's like the CrossFit goatee, won like six in a row. And so I had jobs with them, but they were recording video video and at the time I was just starting to dabble in video But I wasn't I wasn't competent at all So I was like I need somebody to come run video and at this point are you still have the corporate job?

Yep. Yep. So I was big-time like kind of luckily I was in sales You know at the time I had a job working for a big industrial manufacturer and I covered like 12 states. So I wasn't going to an office so I can kind of just sneak away and... When did you eventually cut bait on that? That was April of 2016. Yeah, I was looking at my calendar and was just like kind of doing the math. I was like, if I don't book anything else the rest of the year, I'll make the same amount

as I will in my corporate job. And that's if I don't book anything else the rest of the year, I'll make the same amount as I will in my corporate job. And that's if I don't book anything else the rest of the year. So I was like, if I wake up in 10 years and I didn't try, I'm going to hate myself. So for me, the fear of regret has always trumped the fear of failure. Sure. And I was like, I can get another job. And so I just said, well, screw it. I'm just going to quit my job and just give it a go. Did you have a job to quit around that 2015, 16? I was probably

I don't know five six months after you he quit and then I was had a kid wife and so I was a little more hesitant to let go of some of that guaranteed money but it just hit a point where it was like I'm working all day and then I'm staying up till one, two in the morning, editing, doing all this other stuff. Um, and it was just like, I hit a point where it was like, I either gotta quit this or I gotta quit this, you know? Um, and then just, just through, I mean, he's, he's much better at business. He's really good at business. I'm awful at business, but I trusted that he had some idea what we were going to do. Uh, and so, um, yeah, yeah, just quit and went full time with that

and never looked back. So when Netflix reaches out, kind of tell me how that happens, was that like the next step in the progression or was that like a, holy shit, this is a levels up type jump? We're worried that that happened. That was a while later. Yeah.

Like the progression isn't that quick Basically, I just when did you first start with Netflix? It's not actually Netflix. Yeah, Omaha Oh, no, it's uh, well, so so the way I got into that was We'd all yeah, how'd you get into the QB show? Okay, so so so I met Bobby Stroop Back in like was it 2017? He opened up a packC in Fort Worth. And I was on a shoot in New York for a buddy doing some work for his gym.

And one of the people we were photographing was a Nike trainer. So I was just talking to her. You know, she just, he talked to everybody. She was like, oh, I got a friend opening a spot in Fort Worth. I was like, oh, cool. She's like, I'll connect you guys. Turned out to be Bobby.

So I meet Bobby a couple weeks later, and he's getting close to opening APEC. He's the Mahomes guy, right? Yep. Yeah, they'd come from Mahomes. They'd come from Tyler, but they were opening the gym that I first started going to back in 2017. That was their first place.

It's still the only place in DFW. Was he connected with Mahomes at that point? He's connected since they were nine in Tyler. Their spot was coming from out in White House Tyler area. Yep. So I got connected with Bobbyomes at that point? Yes. He's connected since they were nine in Tyler. Their spot was coming from out in White House Tyler area. Yep, so I got connected with Bobby and the way I looked at it, I was like, I just told Bobby, I'll just come in and shoot for you. Again, I wasn't asking for money

because in my head I was like, okay, well if I'm shooting with a guy who's training professional athletes, and at the time he had like Josh Tomlin, he was pictured at the Indians at the time, he had like Josh Tomlin, he was pictured at the Indians at the time. Cinder guard was in there fairly often whenever I was there. That was after. So I mean, at the time he had like AJ Minter,

but Minter was still in like AA, Michael Koepke, a couple of those guys, but they were all still in minor leagues. They weren't even like in the bigs yet. And the way I looked at it, I was like, man, if I want to get into sports, you know, legit sports, then, you know, if I'm shooting for Bobby, maybe at some point somebody walks through the door

who's like a bigger name and, you know, if I shoot the right thing, I'll get the right opportunity. Yeah. And yeah, sure enough, you know, off season rolls around and Patrick's second year, meet Patrick and he wasn't Patrick at the time and just did stuff for them. You know, we'd give him, I'd give him photos and video and like, you want to post

them? Great. If not, no big deal. And that kind of started that whole thing. So fast forward to was it 2022? You know, we do a lot for Patrick, you know, birthday parties, family photos, you know, whatever they need became close with his marketing agent whose name is Jacqueline Dahl. She runs all his marketing stuff. And so they get pitched from Peyton to do quarterback, this first time.

And they go back and forth on negotiations and Patrick Gobsay has this list of things that say yes. But one of the things that they wanted was they wanted me to be on his crew. Because you spend time in their personal space, at the home, they just wanted somebody that they knew that was familiar with them. Because they didn't really know how it was going to go. And so that's how I got into shooting front and field films and stuff like that. Okay, because quarterback is something, it kind of like hard knocks where you might

see him at home with their wife and kids. You might see him at a restaurant. You might see him at practice with like everywhere. Yep. So he didn't want he knew that and didn't want the NFL or whoever just assigning some. Yes. Yep. And we've done cinematographer or whatever. We've done a ton of stuff with Patrick at their house. You had previously too. Yeah, yeah, just us together. During COVID because like, you know, the world shut down during COVID and, you know, Patrick just- Now they're paying you by then, right?

What's that? Patrick. I personally, I don't take money from Patrick. Really? No. Okay, interesting. And that's not from them not offering. I just don't, I know what the opportunities I get because they trust me.

And so I don't, I'm not going to show up to him, you know, training with Bobby and be like, Hey, I need 500 bucks. I don't know like the specifics, but I think, you know, obviously he pays Bobby, but Bobby has like a similar sort of like, yeah, no, there's a lot of things that come from this. So I'm not going to like, you know what I mean? Bobby's different though. Cause like, you know, it's part of the things that come from this, so I'm not going to like, you know what I mean? Bobby's different though, cause like, you know. It's part of the world that you always think is weird

when you're growing up. Michael Jordan, how come he makes 30 million and he never pays for shoes? Isn't the guy that needs the free shoes, the guy that doesn't make 30 million? Anyway, it's a weird bit. Yeah, so again, it's not from them not offering to pay. Yeah, no, I know, cause you said in the beginning, I don't ask for money. Anyway, it's a weird bit. Yeah. So again, it's not from them not offering to pay. Yeah.

No, I know, because you said in the beginning I don't ask for money. Yeah. OK, but. But I just knew that being his guy will net me so much more being the person they trust, right? Yeah. And same with Bobby.

So during COVID. Kind of like this. Yeah. He said, I got to have my guy filming me. I don't want just anybody walking into my house. Exactly. So yes. During COVID because everything, the world shut down. He was, he only lives like 15 minutes from me in the off season.

We were having to go to his house like two, three times a week to get a bunch of VO stuff because nobody could shoot. So they were doing a lot of animated spots. Was that around Dallas somewhere? In Westlake. In Westlake? What's his address? Yeah, he's actually building a new spot so you don't have an address right now. But yeah so Kovac really accelerated everything.

It kind of accelerated everything with him being in the house so what was funny was you know he had this qualifying call with the people at NFL Films the director who was going to be attached to Patrick and the cinematographer who his name's Phil he he's the what we call the DP director photography for the whole series and So as soon as I get on the call, you know Cuz they're probably expecting like a man like Patrick's guys like just some freaking guy And so anyway, we get on the call and they're like, hey, we looked at your website So you do this for a living I was like, oh, yeah, they're like, oh perfect

Do you know what that is? That's that's because they deal with that oh that's because there's a million dudes who are like yeah my boys got a camera yeah he's gonna be the one who shoots everything they were very happy they were thinking they're gonna have to train you and yeah and most NFL players have a dude with a camera not most NFL players a lot of them like Mike has got a dude with a guy's heard us talking about you might've heard like the Trayvon documentary that he put out. Yeah, same exact thing, yep. Friend with a phone.

It's just a guy with a Gimbal. You can tell that it's not, there's no plan. It's just film. Yep, and so that was funny. That was a qualifying thing. I mean, like during the call, there's like, hey, would you want to shoot other stuff for us? I was like, yeah.

But so anyway, that's how I got introduced into football, like shooting NFL football, because shooting NFL football is one of the hardest sidelines to get on. You either shoot for a team, you shoot for NFL films, or you shoot for the NFL directly. And that's pretty much, I mean, that's pretty much it. So, you know, that really got me in. So with the QB series, are you not, is any Patrick stuff we see coming from you like not only at home, but almost all of all of it. So you go to the game. Hey, go to the game this weekend. And you're just trained on my homes.

Yeah. So when you do a series like quarterback, it's what we call shooting a wire. So when they get wired up, when you're shooting a wire, you don't you don't ever take your camera off of that person who's wearing a wire. From the minute they step out in their pads, you're rolling the entire time. You don't cut, you don't, nothing. So it's- Just because that audio is kind of useless without the- They won't even listen to it if there's not a video.

That makes sense. If there's not a clip attached to it, they won't even listen to the audio. So even if you're just looking at nothing, you're leaving the camera running. So it's pretty exhausting shooting a wire because you literally, the second they walk out, you're rolling and you're on them at all times and you're changing positions, you're going, you know, different lenses, different, you know, different situations,

but you're on them the whole time. But the coolest part shooting a wire for a quarterback is you get to listen the entire time. So you hear everything. In the huddle everywhere? Everything. You hear everything. It's the coolest way to experience football game

because you're literally like, I did a Stefan Gilmore wire one time. And it's so boring because Stefan don't talk. Yeah, of course. And then he's in coverage. So it's just him running and then back, and then running and then back. Versus like quarterback, you know,

quarterbacks, he's doing everything, right? He's talking to the OC on the sideline about play calls that are working. That's not working. You got a good Mahomes imitation? No. I'm trying to think in my head what that would sound like. No, I can't do it.

Yeah. But so, I mean, that's, it's the coolest way to experience cause you just hearing everything and the trash talking is legendary. Is it both of you guys? Some of the stuff, quarterback was, he was on quarterback a lot more than I was. Oh, okay.

Yeah. He was on for a couple things. Yeah, I was on for some stuff. But you're Mahomes guy, I didn't know if you had, like you were trained on his family in the stands or something, because you'll see that in there. No, I did some audio for some of the stuff, a lot of the off-the-field stuff, more than in-game stuff. Mostly because with the in-game some of the stuff, a lot of the off the field stuff, more than in game stuff, mostly because with the in game stuff with the wires, putting a mic on

a quarterback's pad or any NFL player's pads is a pretty extensive process. Yeah, you can't get it wrong. Things can't go wrong with that, right? Especially something like this where a quarterback is, they only have to say yes one time of year, right? Yeah, I mean the NFL everyone's Technically obligated to wear a wire one time a year now guys can opt out like Aaron Rodgers don't wear wires, you know But yeah, most of it see kind of the the effects with his own research of the wire that close to your body Actually, I think what happened was, you remember when, was it Randall Cobb

who punctured a lung in a game? I forget who it was. It was one of his teammates punctured a lung and he was convinced that the wire had something to do with it. Ah, of course he was. I mean, when you see its wire, the way you see its wire, there's no possibility

that that was the reason, but that's kinda the excuse he gives. But for a project like this where Patrick's putting on a wire every single game If that goes wrong once like you've got this giant project now like in jeopardy It's funny enough. It almost went wrong the very first game like we didn't start actually doing quarterback It didn't get greenlit to like week three or four so the first game that we wire them is it was Monday night against the Raiders, the famous like, I'm here, I'm here. That was like the first game that he was wired.

And it was like, right as the second half started, he gets tackled, but like he gets pulled from behind. And the way that the wire is put on, it's like this metal shim, and then the mic that's covering the mic, and it's all taped up. But somehow the guy had got the lip of the shim and like bent it so now this shim is like sticking out this way so it was like his jersey is like hung up and he

literally comes to the sidelines like get this f-ing thing off me and we're like oh my god please like first game right we're like oh my god we're gonna lose the wire for the rest of the season and luckily like the equipment guy was able to bend it and get it squared away but we were just like this is worst-case scenario like this is so bad NFL films guys they're their audio guys are trained like they go through training on how to wire pads that I haven't gone through and I'm not really willing to I don't want that liability so just keep it one guy yeah so they've got their guy and then it also became kind of a good luck thing because they won like every game

He put that wire on yeah, yeah, his name's Jeff. Yeah after Jeff came on like Didn't lose a game with him wearing the wire when Jeff wired the pads So it became like this superstition with us, but I did a lot of the off-the-field audio stuff From series, but yeah Can you hear other players in the huddle too? Yeah, I mean, you can hear people talking. You can hear the OC talking to them.

Anybody in proximity, you can hear it because the wire, the the the pack is on the back, but the mic comes right to the front. So anybody in proximity, you can hear them. Did they ever mention Taylor Swift in the huddle? No, that was before Taylor. OK, that was the year before. But you could hear Max Crosby a lot. Yeah, yeah, I mean like-

Cause that was a great scene in quarterback, it's just that back and forth. Cause that's the game you're talking about, right? Yeah, yeah, the one where he chipped shots, I mean he's like, come on bro. Yeah. But yeah, it's funny cause like, Patrick basically blacks out during games

cause they would send him like the wires afterwards, the director would put together like a melt of like 45 minutes and he would just be cracking up because he's like I don't remember saying none of this right so he's like I don't I don't I don't know what the hell I'm saying so he gets a you know are you keeping notes during the game or do you go back and watch the whole thing again so I'm not on the post side I'm just shooting. But the director will make notes and stuff if he's on site. But a lot of times, the way it works in NFL is every quarter, a runner comes out and pulls your card.

So every quarter, you're dumping your card, and they're uploading that footage live. So because you think about how many games are every week, and then how many cameras, and how many shows they have. I think right now they have like seven weekly shows. So they have to start cataloging everything like on the spot. So everything has to get uploaded back to corporate and you've got a team of people that are ingesting it, tagging, listening to wires,

doing the transcript for that. It's a crazy, crazy. You've seen the Randy and the, uh in the trailer South Park meme, right? Yeah. That would be Dan if he walked in and saw how organized the NFL's archival and back end system is. Because it's got to be the best. How much daddy do you think the NFL has? I mean, I don't even know.

If you had to guess, how many? I would just think it has a word that I don't know, like the word before byte. It's accurate. Yeah. It's around 50 pentabytes. There you go. A pentabyte is 1,000 terabytes.

OK. Terabyte is like a lot of gigs, right? It used to be like the, holy shit, 200 bucks. You can get a terabyte? Yeah. That's insane. So and because of the amount of data, when you're shooting NFL games, you shoot everything at 1080.

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Maybe go there next time before the All-Star game. Yeah, before the game. That's right, dude. You should've got a little boosty on Friday I know that would really help you for the weekend I know what it popped out to the outfield instead of the infield it might make you Positive like I've been very positive. Yeah, right Alright back to Jonathan and Preston, I think Jake is now ready to roll

Jonathan and Preston. I think Jake is now ready to roll. What? You were the one who had to pee. Oh yeah, okay. I thought you meant because we just learned that we grew up like two streets away from each other. Oh I didn't hear that. Who? You and John? Oh Preston? Yeah. Okay. We're the same age and we grew up in like two house, two streets behind each other but but he went to a small Christian school in the neighborhood. Or sort of in the neighborhood. Like 10 minutes. But somehow never, this is insane. I'm sure we hung out at some point, but... Did you ever ride your bike down there at the end of the street? Oh yeah, at the pit? Yeah. The freaking mud pit? Did you ever call it? Yeah. With the jumps and stuff? What's going on with your headset? Yeah. I don't know, what? It just sounds weird. I don't know. Keep just sounds weird yeah very strange yeah

did you turn your night over I went to your right like I told him where I went to elementary school and he's like street cred so the Jerry thing yeah the Jerry Jones documentary or what is that documentary called actually America's American dream dream American yeah that's what they're going with yes so we or what is that documentary called actually? America's American Dream? Dream. American Dream, yeah. That's what they're going with? Yeah, so we ended up on that one. I actually didn't do a lot for that.

So I got called because they needed some on the field stuff for some of the games. So you're the conduit? They don't call Jonathan. Like I said, he's good at business and likes talking to people. I'm like, my real strengths are like when he's like, hey, we need you to be here for 15 hours. I'm like, cool, let's do it. I don't really want to talk to anybody.

I don't want to do that stuff, but I'll work really hard. OK, but he'll rope you in. Yeah. Yeah, he's my ride or die. So basically, I got hit up to do this first game shooting some on-field stuff, you know, stuff like that. And, uh, because the NFL doesn't want some guy who's never been on a football field to have a camera on a sideline going somewhere they're not supposed to go.

So the main crew was attached to like Jerry and those people and they're following them around, but then they want some on the field stuff. So basically NFL films like, okay, cool, use this guy. And so that's how I got introduced to production company that was doing the Jerry Doc and so for that game I was able to get Jonathan to what we call like AC which is assistant camera so he was just helping me during the game and stuff and we met the producer who strangely enough I had ended up on like a small little job with before we're like oh snap but anyway I was like hey

if you guys ever need somebody to fill in for audio, I was like, my guy can help you out. So he ended up getting a lot of work doing audio, because they made that connection, and the person they had doing the audio primarily, her name is Sydney, she does a lot of stuff with like NCs and hard knocks and stuff like that, so she'll be gone a lot.

So then they were like, they'd be hitting Jonathan up all the time You know cuz stuff will come up just out of nowhere like hey, you know, we need to shoot Jerry like tomorrow Can you be there? And so that's how he ended up on the documentary because I only did like maybe three shoots for that doc And then like we did the Thanksgiving game the Thanksgiving game audio with him. I was attached we were attached together Yeah, how does that work shooting Jerry? Like, is he wearing a wire? Yeah.

Okay. So I would. It's the same sort of deal. You're following him during the game. Yeah. So for most of my time, I think we had Jimmy that game. We, the Thanksgiving game, we were kind of roaming a little bit. Yeah.

Um, I had a wire on Jerry that game, um, cause I was up in the, his crow's nest. Yep. Yep. I was kind of floating around. So I was following Jimmy for that game for his ring of honor induction And then I was with Troy Followed him down and I've got a good story about the Troy when I'll tell you but but yeah, so he he kind of got plugged in that way and then they just started hitting them up for audio stuff and

He ended up doing a lot a lot of audio for the Jerry stuff Were you were you then not surprised when you heard that Jamie Foxx training camp tower clip where he's just talking about how huge some guy's dick is? I've got hours and hours and hours of audio of Jerry. So you could secretly release something? Yeah, in my career. They would know they would be able to trace that. Yeah, but they would know they would be able to trace that. Yeah, I mean I keep

all everything just as backups and whatever but no plan to use it. So I was attached to Jerry a lot just listening to him essentially for hours and hours on end. Did you grow up a cowboy fan? I did. Okay, so this is probably really cool. It was cool. Yeah, I'm not like Jake level fan, where I'm emotionally invested. If they win or they lose, I'm all right. Either way. But it was cool just the, like you're putting a microphone on Jerry Jones.

Like it's just a big thing. And you also realize why the Cowboys are the biggest brand in all sports because you listen you watch that guy work a room And he's the best yeah It was the the Jimmy night when they had in his Jerry's personal suite they had all these high-end money guys in there Lucas oil guy Was in there a bunch of bunch of people Jerry, just to watch him for an hour straight, just walk around these guys and the way he speaks to them, you're just like, they want

to give him money. He's really fucking good at what he does. It's really impressive. And the other thing about him that was really surprising and impressive was just the stamina that guy's got at his age. Like we'd be sitting there just like, can we please go home? And he wants to go all night. Like he literally just wants to go. He's always in that. He's in his office.

He's at the facility. And that's one thing too about the Cowboys that, you know, cause we'll go do shoots for like, you know, we did some of the CD land last year for Thursday Night Football with the Taylor Rooks thing and the minute you step into their facility, like they treat everybody with the utmost importance. Like they protect their brand no matter who it is. You know, some places you go and there's like, ah, like they'll just put you wherever and there's like whatever you got, 10 minutes, you know, do your thing. But man, with them, they're like, where do you want to shoot? And you're like, oh, like, well, let's go here.

Like, cool. And they'll just make it happen. They got a whole breakfast spread ready for the crew when you get there. Yeah. So everything's first class. Yeah, most facilities we go to, they stick you in a closet. You know, you go to some NFL teams facility

for interviews or whatever. It's like a Thursday night football interview. And they're like, here's this four by four closet. Figure it out from here. Yeah, you got 10 minutes to sit down. Cowboys are like, they take care of everybody that walks in there, which is cool. So when you say you shot with Troy Aikman, what was that for?

Well, okay, so we've done shoots with Troy in the past for other stuff, but for that one, it was during Jimmy's induction. And so my assignment for that piece was, we went up to the Monday night booth with him and Joe Buck and we're shooting kind of behind the scenes and stuff like that. And what we're going to do was we're filming that and then Troy was going down from the booth down to the field for the induction and stuff like that. So I'm just, I'm on Troy the whole way and you're living like through the EVF piece.

So you kind of don't recognize where you are. So I'm following Troy, we're in the elevator. We get down, we're going through the 50 yard thing and I'm just going, I'm just going. And we get out to the field and I'm kind of right there. I'm right behind him. Yeah, and I'm like looking around and I realize like I'm the only person on the field

like with a camera, everybody else is like 20 yards that way. And I was like, oh no. And I was like. He walked through all the cheerleaders. I'm like, I don't think I'm supposed to. Were you not allowed to be there? He was not supposed to be there. I was not supposed to be there. And I was like, he walked through all the cheerleaders. I'm like, I don't think I was supposed to be there. He was not supposed to be there. I was not supposed to be there.

And I was like, whoops. So you've got to stay there now. Well, no. Once I realized, I like hustled away. But then like the producer was like, that was great. And I was like, I'm glad you're happy, because I was the only one out there. I was like, I don't think I was supposed to be there.

But you know, you're just like, you're walking. You're only worried about making sure you hit and focus and all that kind of stuff You just kind of lose sense of where you are. I don't know how people do that. It was wild Yeah, that was just like yeah, I'm definitely like just standing out here right in the middle of a broadcast Yeah, I need to get out of here What was your shoot with Dak about so we shot with Nike strength? So, you know just see Nike equipment. So we just did a quick like hour and a half shoot with him.

Training this year. Yep. Training this year. We did, uh, we did one during COVID with him. Yep. At his house. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah. That was like the day after he signed his, his franchise tag, I think the first time. So he was in a real good mood that day. Yeah. That was a lot of fun. That was a cool story. Cause like we showed up to the house and there's a raft of lockdown ending you know we've got the masks on stuff He opens the door, and he's like oh you guys don't need to wear your mask I'm like oh sweet rip that thing right off and so we're in the house

And it's I mean everyone's been locked down So it's basically just been him his girlfriend at the time and like his driver for like three four weeks So he hadn't talked to anybody so he was like are you guys in a hurry? We're like no no we're on your time. He's like, okay, cool, I'm at my buddy, come cut my hair. And we're like, all right, that takes like hour and a half. And so we're just chilling downstairs, talking to his driver and his girlfriend,

so then we do what we need to for this spot. And we're like, all right, man, we're all packed up, we'll get out of your hair. And he was like, oh no, you guys can hang out, let's take some shots. It's like 11 o'clock in the morning. Shot it. And he's being there's some tequila shots.

We're like, all right, we just kind of bum around for like another hour and just kind of shoot shoot the breeze with them. Dak's one of my favorite players, man. He's just, he's such a, he's a genuinely just a good guy. I know. We always say like of all the athletes we've shot with, Dak is genuinely like the nicest person of anybody.

Have you shot with Dude Perfect? Yes, actually. Last year. What'd you do? We did this thing for Amazon. It was this behind the scenes thing for their Friday, Black Friday broadcast thing. And they were doing the co-broadcast.

Yeah. And so we were just shooting behind the scenes stuff. So we didn't interact with them, but that was a bit of a beating, man. That was like. You talked tocasts. Yeah, and so we're just shooting behind the scenes stuff. So we didn't interact with them, but that was a bit of a beating, man. That was like- You talked to the twins. Yeah, but I was like, that whole process was like,

being y'all's gotta be exhausting. Yeah, we've heard about people like, it's gotta be exhausting. Had them at a golf tournament or whatever, and it's just like, being that on is not sustainable stuff. No, and I was just like, this seems exhausting. But they were pros, man. They did their thing, but yeah, that was- That was a long this this seems exhausting but they were pros man. They they they did their thing But yeah, that was a long day. That was a really long day

Yeah, I was gonna ask you guys about a couple things in the documentary world because I did just I Watched three or four of this season of the quarterback. I watched that Rob Ford thing recently You know another one I watch we can talk about this trainwreck series that the Rob Ford was I watched the poop I watched the poop cruise. Oh, yeah, just watch I I didn't know what exactly you guys did for these Productions so I was just gonna bring up The thing where you leave the camera on someone's face after they finish their sentence is So unnatural and so effective and so dirty because what do you what face do I

make no one ever sits there and doesn't talk when I finish my sentence that's not a normal thing yeah but then they leave it on you and you just have to it's the dumbest look a human being can have I'm done talking you're not gonna talk but you're still looking at me and it somehow snuck its way in as like a device and storytelling in like the last ten years yeah it's just like they're but you're still looking at me. And it somehow snuck its way in as like a device in storytelling in like the last 10 years. Yeah, it's just like they're trying to- You guys know what you're doing.

They're trying to get emotion. Yeah. And a lot of time for like a documentary like that, like there's a director. So like us as camera guys, like- So we're told to cut, you just keep rolling. We're just rolling, like we set the cameras up, light, do everything like that.

And then the director from there is doing everything. Our job is just to make sure the cameras are. Make sure you're in focus. In focus and recording and all that kind of stuff. And are you told keep rolling? Oh yeah. You never cut. Until you're told cut, you just let it go.

Okay. Generally you start rolling when they're a minute out. I'm more mean in the edit. Yeah. Edit toward the person. Sure, sure, sure. It makes it look like they're being minute out. I'm more mean in the edit. Yeah. Edit it toward the person. Sure, sure, sure. It makes it look like they're being more plaintive, like that they're actually thinking about something simple,

but I don't know, I love the format. So you do hear people talking back and forth if they're wanting certain things. Like I was wondering if, cause I was watching the last episode of the quarterback, the one where Kirk Cousins gets benched well on the field after the game that he got benched there it's Andy Dalton and so he's talking to Andy Dalton here. How are you doing? Yeah, man, it's um, it's been three weeks. It's felt like three months. Okay a few weeks. Oh my goodness, but like the initial state the

Lot of regret a lot of regret you played well when they benched you I you guys were losing but you were playing well I was just turning the ball over. I couldn't figure it out. Right and and it was anyway you were playing well. I was just turning the ball over. I couldn't figure it out. Anyway, they go on. They're just having a talk about, hey look, one guy who got benched previously, one guy who just got benched, they could talk about their experiences together. That felt set up to me. Like that they told Kirk before the game, hey make sure you seek out Andy Dalton after the game. Or is that? No, so I mean like when you're shooting for When you're shooting for NFL versus like if I'm shooting for like the team like if I shoot for the Chiefs or whatever

Like I can interact with people, you know It's a come down the tunnel things like that because you're just in a different setting when you're shooting for the NFL You don't talk to anybody like you don't talk to any of the players nothing because you're just you're there to do your job And so that, that camera is actually what we call like the top position. So that's actually up in the concourse. Yeah, it was from there. Yeah. So that's like our safety shot. So, um, so no, that's, that's completely unscripted because a lot of times the directors don't go to the games. Like they're there for the off the field stuff, the interviews,

but for the games, there's really nothing for them to do unless they just want to be there. But it's just literally, like I said, you just roll at all times because when moments like that happen, you got it. Yeah. I know that like your general cynicism towards this and I think a lot of stuff probably is set up. But if you're telling me, not like in that show, but things in general, but I completely buy that Kirk Cousins wants

to talk to Andy Dalton and catch up about being benched. Because he's Kirk Cousins. First of all, Kirk Cousins and Andy Dalton, I just assume they vacation together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think it's entirely, they would vibe over that. While you guys are here, I wanted to play this too. And if you're Cowboy fans, then this will all work out.

You're a big Cow cowboy fan, right? Grew up right near Jake. So I kind of a cowboy. So I'm in the camp of when Jerry when Jerry fired Jimmy I kind of cut I cut ties at that moment. He gets to spend a lot of time around my greatness Yeah, why would you stay committed? I told that though. I told that I was like I was like I've not cheered for the Cowboys. Like, you make it really hard to not cheer against the Cowboys. So now I'm kind of just indifferent, where I'm like, I do like. You didn't even lie to Dak.

If the Cowboys do well, I'm not going to be upset. Versus like, before that, I was like, I hope the Cowboys just do awful every year. Which is the sensible response for someone who grew up here. Yeah. Well, here is when Kirk Cousins first got benched and They were talking to him or he's talking to the camera. I First of all, I thought it's interesting that he keeps doing this bit But he's probably paid a lot of money from Netflix. I remember back in the old days. We had a radio show

You're not a listener, but you're more of a listener of Dan and Jake. Back in the old days we had Drew Bledsoe every week and Drew Bledsoe got benched for Tony Romo. Drew Bledsoe that week's like, yeah, I think I'm out on the radio show, but we might have been paying him 250 bucks a week or 500 bucks a week, something. Where I'm sure that Kirk Cousins is doing much better through Netflix. Do you guys know? Do you have any idea what quarterbacks make from doing the quarterback show? I don't know what they make.

I know it's obviously worth their time. I think something that people don't understand about these kind of shows, because inevitably, anytime the show comes out and you see the roster of who they got, everyone's always gonna be like, oh, how come they didn't get Josh Allen or get this person what people don't understand is nobody has to say yes to these Right you're not obligated to so you're at the mercy of who's willing to actually do the show and I wouldn't think anybody

Would be when if you make this is the old bit kid Kratick Once told me when he started making like he got a million dollar contract or whatever He's like now. I don't have to do live spots he didn't want to do it if you made 50 million dollars like dirt dirt like I'd make 20 million dollars I don't really need to do all this other stuff I mean some guys they're like just addicted to doing as much as they can I think if you look at for Kirk though look how he comes off so good in both those series because like the first one people really like, you know a lot of people didn't know anything about him and they're like man this guy's like

Like he came off really good. Why does he care who if he comes off good? Um, I can I Believe that for a guy like Kirk and I'm not being sarcastic at all I think this is part of witnessing for him. And I'm serious. Like I think he's been through like some- A religious thing? Yeah, just the way that you live and showing how his family- Yeah, you see his wife praying at the game

in season one, you know? I promise you, he views it as like, look, I can show people, you know, that's what you're trying to do through your sport anyways. This is a real tangible way to do it. So I think golf came off looking great. Like, you know, golf has had a very interesting career from the first half of like, oh, he's an airhead.

And he was, oh yeah, that comes up and kind of talking shit out there like about, I don't know. It seemed like he always had comments about like the media or whatever. Now he's like the savior of Detroit. Him talking about how much the city meant to him, I don't know, I think it's a great PR piece for him. Even if you want to step into broadcasting,

get people on your side. Well, here's when maybe what you're describing about Cousins might also describe why he reacted to getting benched in this way. And I thought of another cowboy quarterback of the past we'll talk about in a moment, and the way he reacted to getting benched. You're so accustomed to all this preparation

centered around getting you ready. And so when you don't have that, you sort of feel a little lost. Somebody made a comment, thanks for handling it the way you did. And I said, well, there's only one way to handle it. The main focus is don't make it about yourself. This is about the Falcons, this is about, you know, Michael, and, you know, stay out of his way and the team's way enough, you know, be ready to play, but,

you know, be a backup. I just remember when Romo lost his job, like the exact opposite, I guess the exact opposite of the quarterback rules from Parcells. Romo did the exact opposite of all of those. Don't be a celebrity quarterback. And then that's the exact opposite of just don't make it about yourself. Because it was all about Romo.

In fact, he called his own press conference to let everybody know that I will go ahead and allow them to keep starting Dax since they told me that they were going to. It's a very, very strange, strange stretch of time there. And they were like 11 and 100, like something crazy where. Dax was balling. Yeah.

Yeah, and Dax was playing great. And it was obvious, like obvious you can't make the switch at this point because you're just rolling. But you may not recall that in the New York Post around the first week of December their owner was still giving interviews where he was saying things like and again Dac was like 11 and 2, 11 and 1 at that point whatever it was he's like would it be great storybook if Romo came back. Yeah. Let us into playoff. He wants the drama, man.

He wants the story. Yeah, he actually kind of wanted that to happen. Oh, man. There's nothing Jerry wants more than news about the Cowboys. So anything that it takes, like the coaching search, last year, which was really funny, was listening to the podcast and Jake just being like, I know it's Dion. I'm like, I'm in the facility listening to Jerry

and he's just like, there hasn't even been a phone call. But they love the idea of like everybody talking about the whole process. And then like, I would tune into the show the next day and you're like, it's gotta be Dion. There's nobody else that makes any sense. But going back to your thing with Kirk, so basically in those shows, you only

end up doing like two interviews. You kind of do an interview with them halfway through the season, and then the last interview isn't until after the season. So they're having to go back retrospectively and kind of competent. OK, they're asking him about that. Yeah, it's not happening in real time

to get those raw reactions. So it's not like MTV where you go into the confessional and you're like, all right. Right, OK. So they are riding home with him from the facility, though. Yeah, they do have the spot stuff. Yeah, and yeah, him calling Pennex was awesome. Yeah.

It's the type of dude he is. I mean, like I've told you guys, my brother went through that on both ends. An older guy who was getting benched for him, and then a younger guy, Griff, and there's a way to do it. And then there's a full-on promo. Yeah, no, it's a really weird, just the whole dynamic of the team. So I know they shoot like, I think we learned once, there's more than one hard knocks being

shot that doesn't, and they just like don't use all of them or hard knocks in the season. Or regular hard knocks. What doesn't and they just like don't use all of them or as far as or regular hard knocks it what doesn't get I think we were told once that maybe it was back when all Amazon was doing all or nothing that there are teams that have crews there to do like an all or nothing or a hard knocks or an in season and they don't ever end up airing I think like hard knocks and those do what ends up getting aired is a lot different. Sometimes they have to really stay away

from the hot story lines, like when they did the Cardinals. Oh yeah, I think I got DUI. Well, yeah, the Hard Knocks in season with the Cardinals, JJ Watts last thing, they had to really, because the hot topic was Kyle Murray at that point, and things weren't going well, so they really had to do some maneuvering there there but I guess they don't follow other quarterbacks around that don't know no no no no no not for these it's it's like three or

four okay yeah that's that I mean you've had guys like I mean they've had situations where they shoot with somebody for like one week and then the guy's like yeah I'm not doing this like you know week one that's interesting doesn't go well they're like yeah I'm not, week one, that's interesting. It doesn't go well. They're like, yeah, I'm not, we're done. Um, so that's happened before, but, um, I mean, but there's, there's been projects with NFL in the past that they shoot a whole thing and then it just never comes out, you know, because after, after it's all said and done, whoever it is, like, yeah, I don't want this to get released. And that's a tough pill to swallow.

And they won't, they won't force it because they, they just, you know, if you do that to one person Everybody for the rest of times gonna be no you know because it you know in NFL It's like they're never gonna put a hit piece out on anybody anyway because then again It's a bad look for the league and then also Players and teams will just be like no we're not doing this you know like well on that front like have you ever been? Shooting something or doing audio and then explicitly like said hey I don't want that like I don't want to use a lot of times like like you'll just kind of get a look where somebody just be like this you know those be like those can't give

those kind of wave you wave you off you know or they'll cover the mic or whatever I mean yeah I mean yeah during during the Jerry Doc thing, we're filming kind of like this like big reception. And you've got all these guys like straight hand and Emmett and stuff like in this room and they see us filming and they're like, you know, waving us off and kind of like, bro, you're you're at this thing for Jimmy. You think that when you can't run everywhere,

there's not a skull and bones. Yeah, we're having a personal conversation at this bar. Leave us skull and bones. We're having a personal conversation at this bar. Leave us alone. They told us to shoot. Wave us off. I'm like, what do you think was happening today? Like you're in Jerry World and Jimmy's going in the ring. Like, yeah, we're filming.

Jerry, shockingly, is like really open, even with a mic on. He'll say anything. And like knowing that like, and he'll tell like he'll be having a meeting with somebody he'll be like don't worry I can like tell them not to use this in post. I can tell them after the fact like yeah I don't want that in there. There's been a couple of meetings where he was like alright we got to cut everything. Yeah. At the end of the day you know all these all these episodes and stuff go through rounds of revisions where

the team gets a say in what goes in, the player gets a say. So you go through a lot of rounds of revisions. The lawyer. Yeah. So if there's something in there that they're like, I don't want this out there, then you just have to take it out. Teams will take out all the X's and O's and stuff like that. Besides the way he hires coaches,

everything I hear about Jerry Jones, I love. He's incredible to be like he sounds awesome. What night was that during the playoffs? Yeah, so it was a weird kind of like life is strange moment. So I shoot the. Cheese versus Houston divisional game, and so that was that was a night game. And then we go back to Patrick's house.

Cause we were filming for, you know about that Chiefs stock that's coming out on Disney Plus. Oh, you know what? Yeah. I've seen, yeah. So I was on that this year. So we're at Pat's house, you know, filming him post game and they're doing their thing. And I think the lions are getting it from Washington.

We're like, dude, I was like wild. You know, this is crazy. You know, I'm just texting with John I was like yeah, I'm in Pat's basement just filming he sends me a photo of him sitting in Jerry's basement They're watching the game. I was like bro. Life is so weird. You're sitting with Jerry I'm sitting with Pat like it's such a weird life, you know, it's like, you know, it was yeah It was cool. Just sitting in like he invited us to his house went to Jerry's giant house and sat in his basement and drink whiskey with him

and Steven. Something like that happens, you're just like, man, life is, it's crazy where you end up sometimes. You know, just, you pick up a camera because you get a dog and now you're sitting in Patrick Mahomes' basement in his house in Casey and he's sitting in freaking Jerry's basement. We're both watching the same game. You guys ever watched the game at Cosm?

No, it looks awesome. Gotta do it. I mean, I'm always on the field. So yeah, that's why. Well, I know that's why I wanted to ask you about it is how much like, it's like you're on the field. Well, that's how you'd like to know, right? Like we went and got close.

Like somebody bought like right in front of the screen. And it was the Eagles Rams playoff game this year where it was like snowing. Yeah great game too. Dude and it was I couldn't believe it. It's snow and rain. It was probably the best game we could have seen on that. You know because it's the overhang. So the camera for that end zone thing like you see it every game it's sitting on the goalpost. Right that's what I couldn't figure out. It's got the white yeah so they rig up a camera It's got an ultra wide on it

And it's just sitting on the goalpost at every game So it's like there's a yeah the Cosm looks sick, but yeah nothing nothing substitutes just being on the field though Almost getting run over So many times yep happens all the time that was great too because we could follow Dom on the side yeah Okay, we'll hear about the moon landing then in closing remarks. Want to do that? You want to do the news? Sure.

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Blake is more of a red guy but we do love us some lone star beer here's Jay with the Dumb Zone is more of a red guy, but we do love us some Lone Star Beer. Alright, well I have a bit of sports news to start. We're gonna do a little bit of unspooling of a story. So yesterday I see Trump on a soccer field receiving a trophy. And I'm super confused, and then I see online. I saw a tweet that said, you know, sports is the great socioeconomic equalizer because here's a photo of a working class British guy

and the president of the United States. And it was some soccer player in Trump. Now I'm even more confused. I'm like, are we getting like the spare Brits with dual citizenship to play for an American team? What's happening? So it turns out it was FIFA has a club World Cup so teams like Chelsea in the Premier

League and they'll you know play top teams from other domestic leagues and they played their final in the US so that's why he was there in East Rutherford but I guess he just kind of did what he does and doesn't really take social cues and does his own thing so you can play play the video clip if you want to see it here you can see the one of the strikers from Chelsea they're holding up his trophy there's Trump just for some reason right there with a British club soccer team He's the head of FIFA there and that makes sense. He's the head of FIFA Just up there with so he's like Preston with Troy Aikman and

Field yeah, and there's a you can tell they're trying to kind of get him away And he's just kind of I'm hanging out here Then I was explaining this to someone. Where is it? It was in New Jersey. Oh, in New Jersey. Okay. I was like, why is he in England? Yeah.

And I guess it's kind of because, you know, the World Cup is here next year and they're practicing how to be at soccer games. That's where the finals going to be next year. In New Jersey? Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a bad life. I think 18T gets a semi-final. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be a bad life. I think I think I think AT&T gets a semi-final

Yeah, we were watching the live draw because it was part of like the board for Arlington For like the hey, we're gonna announce it when they announced that they didn't get the final It was really funny. Everyone's like also still good a semi. Here's Emmett Smith But yeah, so he's there dancing with them. And then somebody sent me this. He's definitely not alone in this. Do you remember Salt Bae? Oh yeah. After the World Cup with Argentina? Salt Bae was on the field with Argentina? Have you never seen those clips? No. It's the most awkward thing you've ever seen. Everybody was like, what's his dude? Like he was going up to Messi and grabbing at his arm and Messi kept like jerking away.

Like you need to look up those videos. So what you're saying is that like an attention hungry, uh, schlocky influencer, kind of the same vibe as the guy who's in charge at times. All right. Listen to this interview. He's asked about soccer. Ask you who is your goat, your greatest of all time? In this sport. You're talking about not in another sport, in this sport. Well, I'll tell you what. You want to give us all your GOATs, go ahead. Many years ago when I was young, they brought a player named Pele to play.

And he played for a team called the Cosmos and Steve Ross, a friend of mine. Straight missile. He was the... I don't know. I just thought it was funny to hear Trump say it. He didn't say it wrong. It's just funny. They brought a player named Pele to play.

At least he knew Pele because remember you'd love this one. You mentioned the Bible. You've been talking about how it's your favorite book and you said, I think last night in Iowa, some people are surprised that you say that. I'm wondering what one or two of your most favorite Bible verses are and why are i wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very personal you know when i talk about the book yeah i mean it did to be clear to be fair though obama obama on the white house broadcast

all of all of them it's uh... what's your favorite player yeah pictures arugula politicians gotta act like they got something on everybody every obama impression clinton we gotta go back to Hey, why you guys are here and we're talking back. This isn't really news, but I have this piece of audio open on my computer for a project I'm doing I can't stop listening to it Dak is so good at the media that he sounds like a robot. This is not edited at all. Yeah, he's doing a hell of a job

He's doing a hell of a job Yeah, he's doing a hell of a job. He's doing a hell of a job. Okay, I'm gonna play it again. This is not auto-tuned. This is just him. Yeah, he's doing a hell of a job. He's doing a hell of a job. That's a song. That's melodic. So yes, Trump, Pele, and... Pele. I like the Pele. Pele, name Pele. Did he make the hand gesture when he, Pele, and... Pele. I like the Pele. You're the man named Pele.

Did he make the hand gesture when he said Pele? Pele. Pele. What is the, yeah. He's always doing his like... Yeah. Pele. We love the Pele.

Here's a word in a headline that much like... Another old guy with just incredible energy. Well, that's what I was thinking of too. I look at him, I look at Jerry, I'm like, I'm beaten now. For sure. Because I got up at like 630. Here's a term that you would hear a lot more when you were a kid. That's right, game day men's health. We had a string of burglaries in Grapevine in Arlington where the burglars were using a sledgehammer. You feel like when you were a kid, you just heard, oh, he had a sledgehammer.

I don't even know what that is. I feel like it's what that lady's using to smash the glass. It's a heavy hammer. Yeah, but I looked it up, and it implies a specific head. Yeah. But I've had a... In fact, I had an axe that was one half of it was a sledgehammer, one half was the axe. And I think we took it out to the camp on one year and destroyed a door sick. Yeah

Brought to you by one day doors. Yeah, there's a gas that you know the gas station At Texan Trail in Dallas where you can buy bait because it's close close ish to the oh, yeah Yeah, that place got see okay. You've been in there if you go in full glass or window whatever around it's not a grapevine type store the story see in Dallas like well that window they have it right here on this story smashed with a sledgehammer you want to make sure it gets smashed string of ten robberies, all involving the sledgehammer. And it's shocking, probably. Oh, it's got to be. Yeah.

And you get it done. Hi, Dan and Jake here for sledgehammers. You can do anything with it. You can sledge. It does say with regard to actually catching these two dudes, they were stealing cigarettes and cash, by by the way that there was an undercover operation that caught them so what was his name posed as glass Angelo that's what he bought That's right, you bought a sledgehammer. I mean, dude, give a man a fish, right? Yeah.

Teach him. This is a sad story, but I'm doing it because it's something I'm terrified from. Out of Gainesville, you had four 6 to 13-year-old boys on what is known as a UTV. It crashes. The six-year year old pass away. I think what this means is like the souped up golf cart

basically, right? There's, I hear a lot of stories from my wife who works in the children's ICU. Seat belts is one of them and the ATV and these kinds of vehicles are the other. ATV dude, I don't know. Cause people kind of think, hey anybody could just drive this.

Four wheelers, man. I feel like I'd almost rather be on a dirt bike, because I'd take it easier. No, you wouldn't. You don't think so? No, absolutely not. I've ridden a dirt bike as a kid, and it wasn't easy. But four-wheelers, I mean, obviously you're more stable. But it feels like you just open it.

You know what you hear about a lot with four-wheelers? Barbed wire. Oh, yeah. Bob's childhood friend, right? Yeah. That was on a snowmobile? Somebody flying across a field at night and then there happens to be some barbed wire

and then all of a sudden you're looking, you're staring at your... No, you don't get to stare at your head. No, no, no, the head is staring because it pops right off and it lands there and it stays alive in like 45 seconds, I think. Yeah, that's what I've heard. To 10 minutes, somewhere in there.

That if you, only if you've been eating your eight spiders a night while you're sleeping. Yeah. I think that's part of it as well. I forgot to mention one thing in the Jurassic Park movie. No, I did tell you that, didn't I? The guy who got eaten with the briefcase. Okay.

Similar to, I knew I told you, but similar to the first movie where the rich, greedy guy got eaten off the toilet. That's an iconic scene. There is a scene where a guy, he's the money guy, he's Big Pharma, and he's got a suitcase. He gets eaten But his hand is on you know you see his hand fall with the suitcase yeah

Yeah, okay indicating you know he's gonna hold on to his money. Yeah, oh, okay. You know to the very end there Love it. Uh yeah, it was a good one. Let's see here. Oh, baby news What What kind of animal was born at the zoo no this is Annie and Jordan's speech do you think I'd rather hear about the animal do you think am I that there is a level of golf sucks that you can get to where you no longer have to announce everyone that you're having a baby. Because if you're a regular guy you don't, well maybe you do.

He doesn't. That's true. Yeah I was like what? You got mad at me for not telling anybody? No I, yeah. Well let me put it like this. All four local news websites have reported on the birth of Sully Spieth. How long?

Yeah. Huh. Like, is he just a celebrity forever? Like if Tyler Guyton has a kid, I don't find out about it. What I'm saying is, isn't Jordan Spieth kind of like a has-been now? Boy, he had a run though. I'm not around here. Texas guy.

So around here forever. He had a run too. Anything he does. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Sully. Yeah.

I rate that high. So, have you ever heard of this name for a kid? Etienne? No, I mean I've only heard the last name, but no. And that's Cajun, so I would have thought I would have heard it. OK, because I swear, David, of Brian and David on the press box, they were just having a little family talk real quick, and he mentioned something

about going somewhere with this kid at TN. And I was like, did I hear that right? Yeah, I mean. That's the name of a person. I can see it really I've heard it is a last name for running backs man from Alvarado 60 you want to do it again we just did it last week you're here it feel like you need to Indians all right 67 year old man from Alvarado last week died while hiking the Grand Canyon National Park. Have you ever hiked? You've

just been right? Yeah we just looked. Either you guys ever uh? As a kid. Kinda looked back and forth. Are you hiking or camping guys? I feel like that's gotta be big in the set of the talk. Yeah. Get on a donkey and take it down into the Grand Canyon. Never been to Grand Canyon. Been to a lot of other places. But you'll like sleep at a place you'll I'm a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big We were there. It was sick. It was awesome. Yeah, you can't put outside and stuff. That was a lot of fun What was the did I email you about the bobcat thing? Oh, yeah Yeah, no, he's a brethren. He thinks he can take it Bobcats getting murdered Yeah, Bobcats small enough. Yeah for sure. I just think this is a cougar 50-50 That's a cougar 50-50. You want to talk about mountain A Cougars 50-50. You wanna talk about Mountain Lion, I'm taking the lion. Bobcats, like a Blurr kind of mouse cat.

There's absolutely no, well, I mean, I suppose a little FEMA, but we could set this up. Like, I could, I'll donate money to Bobcats, if it wins, you know? There's no limitations on our fight, right? Salina's facility is pretty good. I live in Salina, actually, so, no good. You stop. I know a a bit about bobcats.

I feel like if you're just completely unable, like you're not able bodied then sure. The scenario was like a 200 pound 39 40 year old man 30 year old man whatever like you should not go out. If you get killed by a bobcat you deserve to die Yeah So the guy that died in the Grand Canyon Dan was 67 So, you know, I'm this it's probably heat exhaustion you got lost When you die in the Grand Canyon at 67, is that a tragic death I vote no

Yeah, you clearly were enjoying yourself. I mean he certainly didn't want to die when he went there. I know but You're having fun You're doing what you love worst places to die although you might have like just never been you know what I've never been there Let's knock this off my bucket list like a lot of others things on my list, too Well, you know what I'll start with the Grand. Let's knock this off my bucket list. I got a lot of other things on my list, too. You know what? I'll start with the Grand Canyon. Well, then maybe you should have just rented a Civic or something and driven up there.

I don't know that you need to start. But you're right. Hiking does indicate that you like what you're doing. And you might get a lot of steps. Get a lot of steps hiking? Yeah, a lot of steps. Yeah, like what? What's your record?

What's your PR? 30,000-ish. We did a little mini-doc for a two-day hike through Colorado, filming that stuff. That's elevation. Yeah, elevation. That's on flat walking. Yeah, yeah.

We get to 30,000, 40,000. I guess the reason that this story about this guy is hitting me is I've been thinking about dying a lot and how people talk about it after you die and I think people that have living funerals have the right idea but it's so haughty to do it right to like be like hey we're all going to tell each other what we think about it and I also because I just think if I was like really into fitness right and I'm doing great and I went to the Grand Canyon to hike and I died trying to do fitness that's fucking funny and you guys should be able to say

it like I just think people should be able to say the way you died we're gonna laugh at any way you guys kind of funny well like if someone breaks into my house and like kills me and my family or something you're gonna have to struggle to find an angle. But with most things, I think, you know, like if I was distracted driving, you guys could be like, saw that coming. All right, hey.

Yeah, if we die on your little, cute little surfboard thing that you did. Right, that'd be hilarious. If I drown on a hydrofoil board. We would be mad at you, like, that's the way you went out, you left us high and dry to do that. So flood talk.

I've had a variety of flood thoughts. So that'd be a bad way to dine. This is where we kind of pick up the room. No, but here. So I'm seeing this over the weekend. You know, just you can't avoid flood news. I'm doing great. So wherever the flood was, they have this camp,

was called Flood Alley. was called like Flood Alley. It was called High Water Alley. Or did you? So I'm actually, I was born in Kerrville. Okay. So we've got family down there. What is that called? The Guadalupe River.

Oh no, but I'd never. Wherever they were set up, was called, has a nickname of like indicating. I feel like Dan, this might be very similar to when we saw that documentary about the Great Wall of Dallas as they tried to retroactively tell okay there now a new story is lying to me I don't know I mean I went to school there I lived there for you never heard anything about flood a lot okay but I've never heard it called I've never heard it called that

before even if it was or wasn't I mean people know it floods. Yeah, that are how you respond, right? Anyways, it's got died Have you ever gotten heatstroke before I Think I have it's actually not bad. I I remember it was a memorial day We had a two a day and I passed out Yeah, and I just remember waking up and being like, I didn't remember, I was lightheaded and dizzy. But I had lost a few minutes of time for sure.

It's not, like, I almost got, your brain almost tricks you. You get to a point where you're so exhausted that your brain just like, yo, just lay down and take a nap. Like you kinda get to that point where you're so exhausted that your brain just like you know Just like take like just lay down take a nap like you kind of get to that point You know everything's kind of getting white you're you're exhausted and you're just like if I just lay down take a nap Maybe I'll feel better and it's like yeah You know if you lay down take a nap at that point especially if you're alone like you're probably never gonna wake up

But it's not like it's not like drowning where it's like all this But that's what you love. yeah, if you never wake up. Yeah, and I bet, yeah, I think drowning might even get a... Drowning seems terrible. Like you'd love getting a nice deep sleep. That would be you dying. Yeah, I do. Yeah.

Recovery score is just off the charts this weekend. Yeah? Dude, I mean, I don't know, man. You just forget how much time you have when they're not there. Just the whole day, the whole day. It's amazing. Do you do a lot of Coney Lingus?

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What a great name. He was humbled with a surprise trip to game seven of the NBA finals and is being further humbled today in Glacier National Park. Man, what a birthday. What's that? Montana, Montana. So far, I've taught him to never punt and never sign a contract with a non-compete clause

until he gets his own podcast on the No Puppet Network. You can like and subscribe all the premium content he has organically created over the years at SimonKernan.com. That is from 690 Scene. Yeah, he interviewed Ted Emrick. Simon did? Greetings, Commander of the Pooner Module. Yesterday was the birthday of fellow DF.

More landing thing, okay. Pooner Module. More realistic than the other one. Ooh, a little tease. Yesterday was the birthday of fellow DF Liam Takahashi. Damn, that is a crazy last name, bro. That is, what are you named after, like, so you're a soccer player and the guy who created Bitcoin? I've never heard an English Japanese last or name before Liam Takahashi what are we doing that's great he is celebrating his Cooper flag with the

Mavs minus Deon Sanders jr. at SMU birthday his leader is podcast more Sarah Heppela just the right amount of Tim Kalashaw, never punt from Jonathan, the D.F. who bought Blake's grandpa's house. Oh yeah. So is this the guy, after you moved your grandpa into a home? Mm-hmm.

Was he real fired up about that or no? No. My grandpa moved in the home? Yeah. Yeah. No, he was Not happy about it Like I've never heard of an old that was like oh, yeah cool. I can now leave the house I've lived in for 30 years. Well, it's basically like you're not able to live on your own anymore. So to them It's like well, then what's the point of living the driver's license is the one I hear they yeah

I was sold his car. He hated that sold everything he had he hate No, he just dude. I was very concerned. I Visited Rose with my mom Went to Cleveland a couple weeks ago and her her My mom is real old. She has a real older friend Rose. She's like 83 And they love she saw what did they see recently? And they love she saw what did they see recently? The race movie the race or be f1 yeah, who is in that the caprio Brad Pitt

So Rose comes up to me, and she's like Brad Pitt is so attractive like she loves Brad Pitt And she's 83, but she usually goes and sees, like any new Stallone movie, like anybody from the 80s that got their juices flowing back then. She's really, so she loves Stallone, she loves whatever, but anyway, there's no way she should be living alone. She has this giant house and she is going to burn it down.

She's gonna, something's gonna happen. But she'll be doing what she loves. Watching, what's the other news network that's higher than Fox News, like real hard core? Newsmax. That's the one. Yeah, Newsmax. They had one of those on.

And the whole thing was just about Trump being great. And she puts it at, like, what is your, the level is like 100 on volume. She had it like at 93. Like it's all you can hear in the whole house. The TV is as big as, like it's the biggest home theater type TV you've ever seen, but it's just in your living room. How long Mr. Rose been gone?

Oh, I've never known a Mr. Rose. Damn. Yeah. Anyway, Dear Daniel, please wish, Oh, I've never known a Mr. Rose damn yeah Anyway, uh dear Daniel, please wish happy. What were we just talking about? The guy bought my grandpa's house. Oh, yeah Rose should be they should give Rose a yeah got it rules There's one guy who's not a complete burnout on this show Kind of road map us as we go. It's nice. Happy birthday to good dude Jeremy Wiley, AKA Skateboard Man. You are his leader, the Hitler of the Hymen. I would have addressed you as this,

but I'm trying to help you get some traction on Daniel from Joe Breslin. What does that mean? Sorry, I checked out for a second. Today is Monday, July 14th. That guy's a Philly fan, I know that. I'm trying to find out if I grew up with this guy or not. Sorry.

You don't find this odd? That's what you should do now instead of listening to the show. I thought it would help the show if we could talk about the fact that we lived two streets away. It's very odd. Thus far, we're not finding anything entertaining out of it. Oh, okay. But we'll keep fishing.

Commonality with this little thing right here. Okay, we'll compare it to that. Do you wanna do a on this day for our show before actual events? Okay, yeah. The new bit. Blake was thinking about doing this. July 14th is today.

So we'll see if this has any legs. So our show's history. So rewind back to 2020. It's still bad radio at the time. And on July 14th, Jake is on a juice cleanse. Yeah, that was my first one. And last one? Like the lemon and kite.

No, I did an actual like, you know, you get six of them a day and you pay for it or whatever. Yeah, I think I was trying to, I tried a lot of stuff up too. Maybe I should just quit drinking. Fuck, I got to, today I got yoga, boxing, juice, getting hammered, let's see if this will all work out great. What keeps going wrong?

And then you gotta remember the time, the summer of 2020, there was a lot, including Texas replacing the eyes of Texas Kroger no, I mean 2020 was the race summer. What did yes. Yeah Kroger stopped giving change as a kovat protocol Dude we have so coins. Yes, we have some memory hold all of the insanity of that time is awful You want to talk about? Bobby, I thought Bobby was going to commit a murder during that time. Shut him down. Our gym's not the same!

And then NBA players were caught sneaking people into the bubble, so the league- Damn, that ruled. The league activated a snitch line. They did. I remember that. Because Lou left- I bet Jason Kidd was calling it. One Rockets player No way

He was calling it on people. No you got the wrong idea about kid buddy I just think that about smuggling poon in there if anything think about his backstory, dude Yeah, but now he's like a narc. Yeah, he might be but I'll trust him now Yeah, but now he's like a narc. Yeah, he might be but I'll trust him now Uh 2021 we're off but in 2022 I guess we were we had just taken the Fishing thing or whatever where one of the answers was take a walk and hope it gets better Yeah, it's something you guys don't have to do anymore is uh the corporate training. Yeah, and we would get you know

How to not get hacked how to not be a racist how to not yeah Is that what you left? bridge too far sir But no one Was how to not get fished and they give us multiple choice answers and it's like report to your supervisor Don't open the email You know call your boss or D. take a walk and come back later. You're like, all right. And so Ted Emrick worked this into one of his maybe US Open

golf updates. Just one bogey for McElroy, who's searching for his first major title in eight years. Cameron Smith, three back at five under. Tiger Woods was six over through eight holes You can't just take a walk in the middle of a round and hope it's better when you return Woods has responded with Then the last thing is during this time we were playing hurdle do you remember hurdle? Yeah

It was the game you'd play one second of a song or two seconds of a song. The audio-whirtle, yeah. Yeah. You wanna play? Sure. Wait, do it again. You wanna do the next second? Sounds like, uh, what's-her-name. That doesn't help us. Oh, it's not what's-her-name, it's a guy. I don't know. I don't listen to this time At first I thought it was Billy Eilish, I don't know that's the song it was that day

Are you just trying to play one today? This is today. Oh, you're just you're pulling it off the internet or something You're not making one up for us oh no that's what we would make it up for people uh... that's not what he would do so it could be recognizable well that then we started doing ticket hurdle yeah i think he was just doing the hurdle well this sucks no today in our show's history but pulling up hurdle

uh... for people who are not sitting here listening to new music right? Me? Yeah. I wasn't. He just bought headphones. I did buy headphones and a ticket to go see a group in Oklahoma City. Elsewhere on this day in 1970 this was the All-Star Game where Pete Rose mowed down Ray Fosse the catcher of the Cleveland Indians Sean Taylor blowing up the punter in the Pro Bowl Did I have not thought about that forever? You don't remember that when Sean Taylor Oh, yeah, the punter did like a fake punt run and Sean Taylor comes run down at him like full Middle of the season hit. Nice.

Destroys that guy's life. Brian Mormon. Poor guy. It was really bad. It's awesome. Hey, you going to run? Oh, you want to? Holy shit, dude.

I told you, Rose. I don't remember this being a down, like, the death. He ended that guy. Yeah. Oh, so you want to not just oh no you actually want to run big respect I think you wanted to be yeah yeah you had that's the scene stars but he pops up I love it that's a big hit on this day in 1999 three people killed and five injured when an accident happened during

construction of the new Brewer's Stadium, Miller Park. And I think that delayed it by a year opening. And on this day in 2013, he did not yet have a child named Sully, but he became the youngest winner on the PGA Tour in 82 years Jordan Spieth Won the John Deere classic He was nine years old Incredible no one could believe it. Oh 19. Did you say did you see? Did you see we had the youngest one one of the baseball draft? No

Is that just like today was the baseball draft is today it was a yesterday yeah The Rangers took a McConaughey for real Another holiday went Ethan holiday went He's the son yeah Jackson's brother Jackson's brother Halliday's kids you Eli Willits is is he was born December 9th 2007 He looks like it yeah, I saw something on Twitter like Do you want to feel old?

Watch this and it was like a prospect. And they were asking him who his favorite player was growing up. And he said Bryce Harper. Yeah. Yeah. Other birthdays today. Rolando McClain, 36. Ragonk.

God, what a fun time that was, man. That's He's a former cowboy of course. That's like the quintessential NFL experience to me like Some mental health problems losing some money Everyone counted you out former first rounder. Yeah, Alabama comes back like basically off the street It is an all-pro level player for like 10 games for Dallas. That was a crazy ride. Former Cowboy if you love the Jimmy years Danny Noonan 60. Former Cowboy Margus Hunt 38. SMU. Yeah. Wasn't he the... I did not know.

No I think he was only with Cincinnati. Wasn't he in training camp? Yeah, maybe so. But he was 6'6", and then he. Why do I have a former cowboy with me? If he was in training camp, it was probably Bones related. Because he could block kicks. Yeah. Yeah.

That's right. Wait, why do I have a former cowboy here? I don't see him on here, but we had him in the studio. He's from Arlington. Or not from Arlington, but you know what I mean that came over and Didn't he uh yeah former mad Eric dampere 50 the chip Also known as Eric Tampere

by at least one guy Because his tampon kept him from holding on to that ball Harrison bucker is 30 you guys might know him. Yep, trad wife trad wife Robin Ventura 58 Nolan kicked his ass Tim Hudson is 50. He was not as important as Scott Hattie Berg to those He was not as important as Scott Hattie Berg to those Powerhouse A's teams boy. What a great movie that was to money ball

Yeah, Jonah Hill Brad Pitt Brad Pitt Rose I bet Rose saw that movie just to see Brad. Why is his shirt on so much? This is a nerd movie. She's has fight club running. Yeah, Revis Island is 40 That's one of those I was talking about the other day right with Pat Pete I feel like you get like two or three of those a decade They just play that position at a completely different level Connor McGregor 37 God I saw him the other day. It is coked up bro. Coked out of his mind. Just geeking on stage. Yeah he's got something to promote now. Bear knuckle boxing. Bear knuckle yeah.

Jane Lynch 65. Legend. Jackie Earl Haley is 64. He was the center fielder in the original Bad News Bears. Matthew Fox is 59 from Lost. Vincent Pastore is 78. That's Big Pussy from The Sopranos. Actress Phoebe Waller-Bridge is 40. She's the creator and star of Fleabag. Damn. And any time there's someone from that show on here, I will mention it and

say that you should watch it I bet your wife would love it she's already seen it oh my wife watches watches TV like a normal person a lot of it rapper taboo is 50 taboo from black-eyed peas okay I guess Do we have a Henry birthday of the day? Intern Henry likes to bring a birthday to hit that younger generation. Yeah, cause so far, I feel like you need to start running the rappers by me. Black Eyed Peas? I mean, but nobody's... I didn't know the guys name.

I don't know their names. I don't know anybody's name. Alright, my birthday of the day is country singer Coe Wetzel. He's 33. You guys into country at all? Like what you're seeing? Negative.

I think that's a big deal. It is. I think it's a bigger deal than Taboo. I mean it's Will.i.am and Fergie, right? Like are you... Okay. Alright, I won't mention anybody who's in a famous band anymore. No, no, no, hold on. I'm just saying, I remember this happening at the station a lot with Fernando.

It would be like fucking TI's birthday, and it wouldn't be on there, but it would be like Sleazy McNugget fest is it's like what's a nobody's ever heard of the rappers that are ending up on here So let's have an agreement. We have a rappers clearinghouse now in fact no Take the rappers off your list. I'll now do rapper birthday So that this just doesn't happen anymore. We'll just throw it around the room. Yeah, sure. This is my, I got rappers now.

We need like Project Pat and Paul Wall. Exactly. Yeah, that's what we need. People champ. We can't get 365 of those, you guys. There won't be one every day. But there also won't be the guy who ghost wrote like a Humpty dance.

So if I see something on my list says rapper, they're in a famous group, I should also then ask you, sure that we won't have to because they'll already be vetted in my list Okay, so I'm not even gonna read any rappers. It doesn't exist to you. Okay, I can see Kanye in here I'm not allowed to read it. No, damn it. I like Kanye and Going warmer to him by the day over there You guys aren't able to separate the art from the artists so that's making me sad for your existence as the song is just like

Separate Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. I can separate albums. He's just rapping minecom for you. Yeah, it's like, ah man, it's just, I kind of like the flow, you know? He's doing like a, kind of got a young guru thing I like here. It's just minecom though. I mean, seriously though, if Gon was using Hitler lyrics, you'd have a real problem with it. Like, because that's a beautiful song. Yeah, yeah. yeah many such cases our dumb zone birthday of the day though is reserved for 65 years old Kyle gas Wow he's the G of KG JB he got screwed dude if tenacious D I lost a lot of respect for Jack Black in that whole deal why he doesn't

He didn't have anything for him What do you mean? Well like I think it was a deal where KG came out and was like a Trump had done something and KG Did a normal Hollywood deal? Oh bad thing. I don't think you know if he died I wouldn't be mad, and it's like whatever that That's his deal and then Jack Black could have said nothing right you don't have to come out and be like also fuck Trump But instead was like I fully condemned this and I these words are okay I didn't know that and guess what KG's not getting work after that right? You don't have to burn your guy Yeah, we called him on the air once though and he was

very nice No, I once had him I mean I talked to him off the air and he was ready to do our he was gonna be a weekly guest and do Fantasy football with us and then he just goes to me Who's the most famous person I think you could convince to do pics with us. You wanna see if we can call KG? Do you wanna call Kyle? Bobby's not that famous Is like Yeah, kind of you guys are have to both be in the demo

Today's a day. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it was never my thing. But like I said, I definitely remember it join us triumph There's no way Kyle gas has the same number he had in 2012, but why not? Why not? I'll give you the deads and then we'll just move on if KG doesn't answer. It's Born on the Stay Now Dead. We have Gerald Ford. He was a president. Don't know a ton about him.

Although I'll tell you, well, go ahead. Never mind. Sorry. Well, Dead on the Stay Still Dead, we have someone associated with the president, with a former president. Ivana Trump died on this day. She's buried... In New Jersey. Similar to where that soccer match was played. On the golf course, right? You know the funny thing about that MetLife put in grass for the World Cup, but they won't do it for the football team.

We wouldn't hear like a ring, right? Yeah. You ready now? Yeah. Why won't they do that? Um. Beep. Is that a good sign?

We're sorry. No. So maybe he doesn't have the same ring. Is it because they would have maintenance of it? I just know a lot of people are upset about it because like you can put Here Jerry world cuz MetLife is like known for guys blowing their ACLs and blowing their Achilles and so and also so we shot A lot of Thursday and stuff last year for Amazon. So we're there three times What are we watching here?

Punter oh, yeah, I remember seeing it. I think it's awesome too that it happens in bounds Like the pointers like I'm gonna stay in bounds John Taylor's like oh Okay, yeah, that could have been oh you want to play out here with us guys yeah Okay, look at that helmet too. It's just yeah looks like he got his dad suit Poor guy eventually they eventually they would really honor Sean Taylor. Dude, he was trying to read that block. What is your move reading that? I think he considered being knocked out here.

When you see him laying, he's like, do I just stay down here? Yeah. Great stuff. Closing remarks is going to be brought to us by Game Day Men's Health. Headed there now. I'm feeling the best I've ever felt, Dan. Where you can get 10% off your TRT treatments for life.

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Yeah, well they're getting 30,000 steps. Yeah. On a hike. So what do we want to do for closing remarks? You want to go, Jonathan? You got anything? Or no? I have more questions, too. So if you guys go, you can. Well, I guess I'm interested in the workflow.

Like, do you guys have agents? No. Does anybody? So big time, like, when you think about guys who are doing movies, stuff like that, they have agents and things like that. It really just depends because an agent is going to take 10% of whatever you do, which is fine if that agent, if you've been with them since you started out. But I actually had a call with an agent last year year and I was, you know, they hit me up and so I was like, okay, I'll talk to them.

And so ask them structure like, yeah, it's 10%. I was like, okay, cool. I was like, do you take 10% of work that I book? And they're like, well, yeah. And I was like, why would I pay you? My entire career, I've been on my own doing perfectly fine. So I'm like, why would I pay you 10% for clients that I already have? Yeah.

And it's like, so the structure just doesn't make sense. But like, if you do a piece of work that gets really popular and all of a sudden you get your name out there and then you get represented, like that makes sense because you're kind of starting from zero. But if you're already established and then somebody's hitting you up and want to take 10% of all your revenue just simply because that's how the industry works. It doesn't make any sense. So it just depends. Like everybody's different.

But in that real structured Hollywood world, everybody's got a rep. Everybody does. So the way that you guys are doing it, how far out normally would you say you know what your schedule and calendar is? Oh week a week. Okay, because I think that's with the agent what you get right? Well, yeah with an agent You're also talking like, you know big, you know, two million dollar budget commercials Or you know really big jobs that are gonna be in pre-production for weeks if not months Because our stuff is just so much just direct to client I mean, it's like I can get a call today and just like hey we got this thing on

Thursday can you do it? I'm like yeah. What's y'all's family scene? Do you have kids? Yeah I've got a 12 year old boy. He's a listener. Hell yeah. I've been married 17 years no kids. Okay yeah I just wondered like I've talked to Cameron our buddy about this and yeah the drop in everything and getting to the other side of the world or other side of the country with kids things seems very difficult. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I pretty much don't do any work in DFW. I'm always on a flight.

I did 122 flights last year, and that's not conducive to having a couple young kids. So my wife and I have always just kind of been on the same page, and so it works for us. But it would look a lot different if I had like a five year old, for sure. You'd be able to pull it off. Yeah.

I mean, as long as your wife is cool being a single mom, basically for 75% of the time, but it would be really tough. My wife's exceptionally cool with that. Also how we pay bills and stuff, so it's like, get out. Right, no more. No more makes money. Like, football season was crazy.

Like, I shot 38 football games last year. So it was like between like Thursday night games, Saturday SEC games for ESPN, stuff like that. That was something I wanted to ask you guys about too, was because it seems like over the last couple of the top like 10 college programs are just turning into content factories like putting out their own documentaries putting out their own like short films have you guys worked with the college teams much and I think that's gonna be picking up especially with the revenue shared you like all

legit yeah all the college stuff I do is for SEC inside on the SPN so they they just sent me to whatever SEC matchup they want me to be at I know like Notre Dame has their own doc series on peacock so that most of that stuff is gonna be handled internally where you're working for a team which is I've been on my own too long I can't I'd be unemployable I'd be a terrible employee so I'd probably get fired pretty quick. But yeah, I mean, it's, uh, there's a lot of different projects going on. A lot of it ends up being kind of proximity based too, same thing in the NFL.

So when they hit you up to shoot a game, a lot of times it's like, if you're in that market. So, you know, they'll they'll ask me to go cover a Houston game or Dallas game. Um, it's not until the playoffs are they're gonna usually ask you to fly around. Even like quarterback, you know, I only worked on quarterback season one, quarterback season two, you know, with Jared Goff. They use somebody that's local to Detroit for Cincinnati, somebody that's local to Cincinnati. My thing was just a little bit different just because of my relationship with Pat.

So I was going to KC, but for the most part they just try to use people in town. So with Hard Knocks in season being NFC East this year, Dallas obviously is a part of that. I'm sure I'll do a lot of it this season. I didn't know that. Oh yeah. NFC East this year. So I'll be be I think week 13 is usually when they start doing it, which is the Thanksgiving game. So

If I'm not shooting for the cheese, I'll be shooting for NFL. Yeah, so I'll be working Thanksgiving one way or the other I can have a big year. Yeah, do you get invited to any sort of? Netflix like party I did the my wife and I went to the premiere for quarterback season one So we were on the red carpet for the premiere That was a really cool experience. That was that was really cool. The wife's gotta I took my wife to ticket stock I took her to the Super Bowl that year you know, she got to come down to the field after the Super Bowl and You know playing the confetti and all that kind of stuff. It was really special We my wife and I got on the field at Arrowhead

through Petcoff, who I knew. You know, Ryan, he was a PR guy. I sort of met him through the troops and everything. And I don't know, man, dude. You're on the field at Arrowhead. Like, I don't know how, do you get used to it? No, so I try to, I always remind myself every week, no matter what I'm shooting, I always remind myself every week no matter what I'm shooting

I always remind myself that somebody's gonna be there that day that either that's like the trip of lifetime for them to go see You know a game at our head or you know when I shot the national championship this year You know, I'm at the field four hours early and you're standing around this empty arena You're like there's gonna be people here that spent ten fifteen thousand dollars to like watch this game and I'm gonna be on the field and I'm gonna get paid to be there and so I always make sure that it doesn't become routine because it's such a special thing that you get to do that you get to experience these games that you know people you know it's gonna be their bucket list you know on their for their lifetime you know to go watch

their team win a national championship. So I just try to make sure that I always remind myself how special it is, the things that we get to do, the time we get to spend with athletes. It's a very unique way to make a living. And so I just make sure that I don't allow it to become work. Sure. So why do you think the moon landing's fake?

I think once you realize that the government will lie to you about literally everything, you become more accepting of the idea that they could have faked the moon landing. Because I think most people don't, they don't grasp the reality that the government will lie to you about everything. And so they're just like, well, why would they do that? And it's like, well, there's a thousand reasons why they would do it. But it's like, I think most of it comes from people not accepting the reality

that whatever the government's telling you is probably not true. I struggle with this a lot. Isn't there stuff up there on the moon that you could see with the telescope? They say there's like a reflector dish or whatever. I mean, I don't know. I'm not a professional at that.

But like, but. I just would think before forming this opinion, you'd want to look into that. Well, so my whole thing is, my whole thing is like, so if you have a satellite dish, right, at home, watching direct TV, whatever, if the wind blows a little too hard, if it's stormy, whatever, like you lose your signal, right?

But in 1969, they live streamed from the moon to the Oval Office to a telephone with no delay. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Looks pretty good too. Yeah. Yeah.

Crazy. Crazy how Nixon was just talking to them on the phone with no delay even though the freaking moon is whatever it is. It's pretty far. 290,000 miles or whatever the distance is. It's like, you go back and look at it and you're just like, yeah, like I'm getting bad satellite reception in 2025.

But in 1969 they're just like, yeah, this is not a problem. We're just gonna live stream this thing. Yeah, and for me, like I first was, the first time I ever heard about this, it was a guy named Jim Mars. I've referenced him before. He was a professor at UTA. I've referenced him before. He was a professor at UTA,

but he was way off into aliens, conspiracy theories and stuff like that. And so when I was introduced to this, it made sense to me because it was because of the Cold War. It was like, well yeah. Obviously, the only way to win this war is to make them spend all that they don't have, right? And we're gonna prove to them we're already on the moon,

and now we've won. We don't know how to get there yet, but we know that if they think we have, they're going to keep messing with it. And that's how we're going to cool off the Cold War, I guess. I think, too, the reasons for not going back has always just been like, well, we lost the technology. It's like, what technology?

You guys, like. Whose reason? Ours? Yeah. OK. Yeah, NASA's always like, well, we lost it. I mean, we did go a couple times. Yeah, but so if you know they don't have

any of the original footage, right? They lost it? I did not know that. So you're talking the most pivotal moment in civilization history, and you lost the footage? Oh, we lost the tech. We recorded over it. Oh, we lost, like, there's just too many,

like, well, we lost the technology. Like, what technology? They recorded the Ray Fosse, the Pete Rose thing. The average calculator has, like, 100 times the computing power that, like, the computers had on board. You know, there's a basic calculator has more computing power than the Apollo computers and has Russia put a man on the moon

Nobody has They would just give up on that right yeah, we did it like oh they got there first so we won't do it Yeah, although in the Apple series They end up putting a little colony on the moon. It's pretty cool. You ever watch that? Yeah, what was it called? I? Can't remember Pull up him like driving the lunar rover whatever bro look at his arms his arms don't move It's like this it looks like It looks like he's sitting on a lawn chair have you ever told Patrick about this

I don't think we've had that conversation, but it looks like he's sitting on a lawn chair. Have you ever told Patrick about this? I don't think we've had that conversation. You need to. It looks like he's sitting on a lawn chair with basically an umbrella as the antenna dish. And the thing's moving, and the arms are locked. And you're like, when you really just sit there and look at it as the possibility that it's not real, you're like, oh my god, that's definitely fake. That's how it goes.

That's how it works. Like, you're watching, you're like, oh man, like, when you really... It's that whole bit though, the more people that are involved in a cover-up of something, the more likely it is. You know what I think is weird though? Speaking of the Madagascar P. Diddy puffy party thing from 15, 20 years ago, maybe they do know. And it's just like, well yeah, the moon landing was fake. We've been saying jokes about that like the diddy thing Everybody knew and we were like saying like boy did he's got some weird shit going on. What's gonna happen there? I don't know. I guess it's just true. It's like JFK so much so that you can make JFK

Well, no, seriously, the JFK thing is now TC can we should have TC on to talk about this. It's basically done Yeah, they've admitted now. Yeah, essentially the CIA TC on to talk about this. It's basically done. They've admitted now, essentially, the CIA was involved in the death of JFK. So that's just true. We've just been saying it and like, oh, now it's... You know, watch the video. I mean, Buzz Aldrin punched a guy in the face

when he alleged that he did. Imagine he would have to. Think about your butt, like a guy's cheating or something. It looks like a strobe. Dude, think about it. The Dave Chappelle bit where he's talking about one of your buddies that's cheating. And he's like, I touched that bitch, man.

Please believe. Like, he'll fight. That's Buzz Aldrin. He knows it's not true. So he can't just be chill about it you know, he's got a lie to protect just like a Mayor of mayhem. He's he's got a Deny deny deny because that's a good way to get out of it unless they do actually find out then you're like I think like Hollywood like throws in our face

Are you talking about Madagascar like If you go back to, have you ever heard about predictive programming? Sure, like CIA stuff? Well, no, just like, they'll put stuff out in plain sight, where it's too much to not be connected. I mean, if you look at just simple stuff, you go back and watch The Matrix, Neo's birthday is September 11th. Like 2001 I'm pretty sure.

This guy speaks my language. And then if you go watch Saw, if you go watch Saw, you remember the original Saw? I don't watch horror movies. No, I'll leave that to your- Okay, the date on there, like the day that they, you know, the last thing on the phone, it's September 10th, 2011. So the next day is, it's like, so we're just calling that coincidental? I told him

before we came here no conspiracies well the thing about it for me is like I don't I don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist right I think that it's weird how this has happened over like the last ten or so years with conspiracy theories I don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist I don't think it has a true. I would like so I said I would did political science or whatever and I got really into That sort of thing. So it's not conspiracy theories. You can just read people who testified in the 80s at Congress of like Yeah, we were selling crack in the sea like these things happen I ran contra happened the CIA has sold drugs in America to fund wars That's not a conspiracy. They're Tuskegee Airmen. That's not a conspiracy theory the

Syphilis experience these are like people like oh your conspiracy theories, bro read up on how they figured out what the lethal dose of sarin gas was I Will You'll be shocked. You'll be shocked that they figured out what the concentration was for a lethal dose. We got to cut this out. These guys will be back. I think it's just people just operate under the belief

that the government will lie to them. And it's like, if they're willing to lie about this, then why aren't they willing to lie about this? No, but see, what's weird about it is I find this all very, very fascinating. Because if you pull anyone on the trust of the government They all for at least the last 10 to 15 years and it's really it's probably been since 9-11 Public trust the lowest it's ever been so people already don't believe anything the government says

But then when it's something like this if you question it you're crazy. Mm-hmm I'm having a real hard time with the presidential assassination thing from last fall. What are we doing here? They blew his ear off Now this Epstein thing Yeah This guy's your guy though This guy's your guy His favorite three movies of all time were Citizen Kane and the Godfather and loose change Seriously and the Godfather and loose change Seriously he

Weren't you really into that like in high school and stuff? Yeah It's like the RFK assassination with sir on sir on you know, yeah cheering candidate stuff It's like I mean sir on sir on to the day is still like bro I don't know a psychologist to talk to sir on sir on is the one that they're now admitting actually did speak to Lee Harvey That's the one that then that's why they're saying like why the fuck else is a guy is a psychologist Interviewing Lee Harvey Oswald that guy doesn't happen. So is this is this how we become Rogan? Like we start here and like I didn't start I've always thought this is our show is like it won't be at closing remarks It'll be the beginning of this like It'll be the beginning of the show.

That'll be the meat of the show. And at the very end, we'll make it to the source. Here's something interesting. So during the whole presidential cycle, right? You know how many Trump rallies that CNN aired? A lot. OK, probably zero. OK.

Yeah, they married the one with the shooter. That was the only one. That's the only one they aired. I guess I'm thinking of 16. That's the only one they aired live. Why? Why that one in Pennsylvania? Yeah, we'll never know. God this rules. This does rule. And by the way, this is why I like sports. And that's not conspiracy, that's just fact, right? Like CNN only aired one Trump.

Do it the way you will. Like it's like you can make whatever deduction you want, but you can't tell me that that's just fact right like CNN only aired one Trump do the way you will like it's like you can make whatever deduction You want but you can't tell me that that you're gonna run them. They'll decide. Yeah, this is why I like sports I like this part of my life to just be a like just throw a match. Everything's on fire in the sports It's like there's an outcome. Yeah, like there's a one and a zero It's very clean. Mm-hmm. I like that might be fixed as well Mm-hmm. I like that might be fixed as well And you're told it's fixed, you know, you guys ever meet chiefs of Holick I did shut up bro So when we shot quarterback, we were shooting Pats Gala and he was there and I didn't beat him But I was like we were wrapping up and there's this dude

He they bought like this big painting or something that that Patrick signed. And I'm just looking at it. And you've seen the dude, right? Yeah, I watched the documentary. And the only thing I'm thinking when I'm looking at this guy is like, this is a strange looking cat. That's the only thing I remember. And then when all of a sudden he popped up, I was like, I was like, that dude was at the gala.

Because I just remember he looks so weird. And then, yeah, that tracks. Chief Zahalek, the Chiefs fan you might have seen on Sunday afternoon wearing a werewolf costume, He was always on television He was at every game and he was also robbing banks on his way On his way to chief's games to pay for his tickets and to pay ten thousand dollars for a painting a painting of Patrick Mahomes What a great scheme

Well, did you have some closing remarks loaded up or no? No, like you're about to say something You want to make sure I don't keep going Like the conspiracy because it like it gets worse People I feel like athletes are game for that though. Yeah No, no real remarks just Just cool to be here. Been, I started listening to you guys in like 2007. He's a true believer. Yeah, yeah. 100%. I quit listening when you got sued to the ticket and then only listen to you

guys now. So we have the same birthday, Dan. Cool, man. I also don't know my dad. Herschel Walker. Okay, maybe we're, yeah. We got a lot of things. Like metaphorically? No, no, like legitimately. I don't know mine that well, but his is different. He knows your dad. Yeah.

I play golf with your dad. He had the long sleeves on and everything. All checks out. I think he had like the little tendonitis thing for his elbow too. Of course he did. I'm pretty sure. He had the full fit on, man.

Probably the fight necklace. You guys are cool, man. Probably the fight necklace or something. You guys are cool, man. This is a lot of fun. We're proud of you. I appreciate it, man. I can't believe we grew up on the same street. Don't mention it. Somehow.

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