The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 7-22-25 | The 2025 Dallas Cowboys introductory press conference

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! I'm professional broadcaster Dan McDowell, letting you know that you are about to hear one of our free podcasts. But if you'd like to subscribe at DumbZone.com, you'll get four shows per week, plus the weekend wrap-up and any bonus sodes like our Business Wednesday interviews. So, if you forgot how to use the 15-second rewind, that's DumbZone.com to subscribe. that's dumbzone.com to subscribe. Now on to today's program. The Dumb Zone. Alright, listen football season is coming up. You don't want to be spending your weekends in some dealership trying to upgrade your vehicle? No. Do it with Fairlease. Fairlease.org, they can make this easy for you. There is no dealership for you to go to and haggle with some guy who's on steroids, no. Send you emails and calls and voicemails and texts.
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Starting point is 00:01:58 You better keep talking. Well, I could tell you about our friends over at Community who upgraded their fleet with Fair Lease No, this is still a fairly spot Blake. Okay, we don't have to still do a fairly spot The point is the audio doesn't work with the cable. I just plugged in and Is that because of my computer feels like something? Could have been you it does feel like that doesn't it but we didn't do it So that's why we do't just keep talking about Fairleys.
Starting point is 00:02:28 All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. There you go. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Oh, it's on the first... Oh, look at that. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Safe. I never listen, I'm gonna listen.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I wanna listen to the drums on you. Really not sure what's going on here, Blake. You got it? For the rest of the show? No. Even when I play my audio? The Cowboys' audio? Once we get going, I'll look at it. Well, happy Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:03:03 We're back. I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake Kemp. I'm Blake Jones. We have Clayton FoodieCK here as well. Intern Henry is here. We're gonna start off by sending Intern Henry... Henry, get over to the mic for a second. Jesus. I'm not happy with intern Henry. Oh no. Already? We're off to a hot start. What did we talk about last week during the show? Or actually off the air, because I wouldn't have brought it to the show. But it was one thing. I don't come to you with a lot, right? But I was like, hey, there's one thing that didn't seem right.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You put out the weekly podcast on Saturday, and what was the one thing that was not right? Didn't send an email out. Notification. So then what did you do this weekend to rectify that situation, to make it better? I called Blake and asked him if I should change it and he said no. You said don't send an email out. After he had already published the episode I didn't want him to go back and take it down and then republish and send out another email.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Would there be a way to send it out without republishing it? So this weekend though you did it again wrong and then called Blake? That's what I'm saying Was it wrong last weekend this perf yes two days ago? Yeah, no two days ago was when I got it wrong. No last week. You got it wrong two weeks ago I didn't hear about that When did I pull you aside? No, I'm saying like like when did I tell you it was like last Wednesday I said hey remember a couple days ago when you put out the weekly thing you didn't look right maybe I'm missing it so you've done the weekly update two weeks in a row right yeah
Starting point is 00:04:55 the first week is after it didn't come through I can't I pulled you aside and said hey man can you you didn't do it, and you said okay. Then that's on me, yeah. Well then this week, I'm just saying, then this weekend it also wasn't set out. So my point is just, you know, if you just bring it up once, then you figure, okay, now it's addressed. Now it's gonna be done.
Starting point is 00:05:17 This is the mean lady at the AT&T store. Yeah. Me? No, just you need a moment of, yeah, you should've hit him. Oh, I can't mess this up again you should have hit him like that like yeah, so if I had like been real mean and You're an alien him or something. I don't know what how could I have been me? I actually think though what I was very nice I just pulled him aside and said hey man, and you remember that that was a great interaction
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah, I was thinking about becoming bros I remember that, that was a great interaction. I thought we're becoming bros. I'll just say I had other things on my mind. You shouldn't have. You shouldn't have said that. You're just a little busy this weekend. Now we need to know, what were you, trading stocks? What could have been?
Starting point is 00:05:55 No, worse. No, I was thinking about other things for the show. Okay, and that's fair. All right, well anyway. Well hold on. I just wanna say that as a business person now, the expectation that you're describing of, well I said it once, that may have worked in our world,
Starting point is 00:06:15 but I think Henry not doing it the first, second, I think he's got four more before he mirrors what I find to be the actual business world, where nobody does anything they see what we want to do when they do how they're gonna do it We're supposed to do to get this lot email you said three days ago I'm just gonna send that back to you because it's the one where you I told you that's true, but this happens Non-stop, but what we do. Do you remember at least this happened for me? I was in elementary school and I was even even when I leaving elementary school, they said,
Starting point is 00:06:46 man, you're now going to junior high. Like the teachers all said it. They're not going to let you slide like we do. You're going to have to have your stuff turned in. You're right. So at least set it. And then they were lying. And then they, leaving junior high, oh man, once you get to high school, same thing.
Starting point is 00:07:03 High school was easy. And then you get to high school and they're like, all right, you guys have been dicking around for four years. Once you go to college, you can't do that. And guess what? You can. You can go out drinking. You can barely study one night before and get a good enough grade on the test to keep
Starting point is 00:07:20 your... They keep lying. And then when you're in college, the professor's like, look, when when you get in the business world you can't be waiting two days to email back you got to respond right away so we have to lie. Oh I heard a little click in my ear there Blake. I think that's gonna be good for you. Oh look, he's giving audio. I got the thing. But he did call Blake I think after he realized whatever, despite that very confusing. But this weekend, he called you this weekend.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah, he called me Saturday, he said, hey, the email didn't get sent out, what should I do? I said, oh, OK. So he did make the mistake again and then realized. Right. So halfway through. By the third time. OK, good.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That's what I'm saying. So we're saying this weekend, people watch your email box because you're really going to. We're going to do a countdown. We're going to do a drum roll. I want Henry to shine. We'll have a dunk tank. I think people aren't listening to the weekly wrap up
Starting point is 00:08:15 because they didn't know it was available. And then Henry is not going to. There's going to be a Hollywood agent listening. And they're going to be like, boy, that kid. Hollywood agent. I love the cut of his jib. I think I wanna, you know, and they'll sign him and he's gonna be a big superstar.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Is this for you? I know, no, I feel bad. I feel like I put together a good show. Well, here's what we're gonna do right now. It was probably most of you. I remember feeling like that. What'd you shoot? Well, I just, I thought, you know, I would-
Starting point is 00:08:44 Oh, he went golfing. Is that what he did? Oh, yeah. No, it was terrible. I can't play right now. So that's why he didn't do the thing, right? now often now if you Listen which we support we support I was gonna say there were things about our old boss I didn't like but the fact he hated hated golf was kinda cool. All right. But anyways, yeah. So we're gonna send you, and by the way, we're in our Game Day Men's Health studios.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You bet your buns we are, which is what they're gonna hit me with tomorrow. Damn, you look great, bro. Everybody does say that to you. How about Game Day Men's Health? They've contributed to that, the greatness of your look. Oh wait, hold on, no. Hold on, dude, sit down.
Starting point is 00:09:29 We're about to send you on a, you're at the Game Day Men's Health studio and we're sending you across the street to Potbelly to pick up today's lunch, which you will have your second lunch, right? Mm-hmm. Because he's a college kid. And if he's offered lunch, even if he ate five minutes ago,
Starting point is 00:09:48 he will get another lunch. And then we told him, well, just get another lunch, and you could take it home. He goes, no, I know I'll just eat it. I remember those days. Yeah. But whatever. What are you, like 160 pounds?
Starting point is 00:10:01 You're not very... If that. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. I need to be, I need to just be consuming. We need to, yeah, you're not very. If that. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right, I need to be, I need to just be consuming. We need to, yeah, you need to bulk up.
Starting point is 00:10:09 They make, Game Day Men's Health actually, they're TRT, it's just Henry's blood. Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say, does Game Day have anything for me? You've got what they've got, buddy. We wanna feel like you. Yeah, we wanna be you. Vigor.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And people his age. That's why we go to Game Day Men's Health. People his age eat like children. He just wanted a chicken and cheese sandwich. Just straight. OK, I've only been to Potm. No condiments, no salt, like just chicken and cheese bread. Look, Al Michael's bread, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I'm not that far off. I've been to Potm like four times in my life. And that's what I happened to get the first couple of times. And it's good. And so I know what works. So you know where it is, right? It's across the street, but you gotta walk around the building and all that kind of stuff. And you know how incredibly old I am
Starting point is 00:10:52 and Game Day Men's Health is helping me out. But yeah, we're gonna put a timer on you. Clayton is putting it on the screen. Oh shit. And you have to beat my time. But I'm not gonna tell you what my time was like. Well, that's not fair. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Oh, absolutely. I didn't know you were set the rules. You're gonna be called a lame. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on, let's just check in with the commissioner to see if it's, let's go an independent arbiter. Jake, do you think this is fair? Yeah, I think it's very fair.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Oh, okay, well, sorry, you've been ruled against. I think it's very fair. Also, yeah, you should be playing with a handicap. You're young, so let's get to it. Yeah, look at me. So he's only able to compete by game day, men's health, where you get 10% off TRT. If you mentioned the dumb zone, do you have your badge? You have everything you need? Yep. Okay. You got your badge in your badge potentially. All right, go.
Starting point is 00:11:41 There goes Henry. I've never seen him move that fast. No, I wore off quick, but that first jump was. That was quick twitch. Shout out to Game Day Men's Health for giving you the energy to get through a family vacation to the beach. And I don't, I'm not kidding. Going to the beach while it's great for the family,
Starting point is 00:12:00 it's a beating. And I feel like you could just kind of get there and then you're like, oh, I did it. Now there's nothing to enjoy. But with Game Day, you got the energy to actually enjoy it. What's up, Game Day Men's Health? But it sounds like you're about to slide into a weekend check.
Starting point is 00:12:16 So what I will do though is promote the sponsor of that segment today is Qualis Roofing. And they're great. They're one of our early sponsors. In fact, is Qualis Roofing. And they're great. They're one of our early sponsors. In fact, at Qualis Roofing, that's where I got the mushroom sandwich. Like there was like one mushroom on it and bread. When we did it remote out at Qualis Roofing. But they're not as known for that as they are for the quality roofs and for taking all
Starting point is 00:12:42 the hassle out of getting a new roof, they will deal with the insurance companies, they will make all the phone calls for you. We got out of there, all we paid for is our deductible. And Qualys came, replaced our roof, they have put a roof over the den, they've helped you in certain ways as well, I'm not sure. Did you get a roof?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah. Oh, you got a roof with Qualys. Yeah, I got hit by a hill a couple months ago and I was the first house in the neighborhood to get my new roof. Stunt on him at qualysgc.com. Qualysgc.com, or should I give the phone number or you like to just tell people to look it up?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Well, I would prefer that in the name of efficiency, and since we've already sacrificed that, I beg you. 817-500-9008, schedule a free roof inspection. Free! And they will give you a dumb zone t-shirt. So free. You don't even have to move. All you do is make a call, you get a free t-shirt, and they come out and look at your
Starting point is 00:13:41 roof. If you get a roof, they'll give you a sit-in. You can come sit in the Game Day Men's Health Studio or into the Dragon Den high atop my garage. So thank you, Qualys Roofing. And here is a weekend check. We could start with Clayton. And then we got a lot today, man. Too much, taking four consecutive days off.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah, the press. Cowboys. Epstein. The W. Man, the W. The Indians are back. Scotty. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Scotty. Bennett. Yeah, all those hats that I saved as the chief Wahoo hats. Yeah. Now I can bring them back out. I'm sure you guys were as amped up as I was to lock in for another Tariq Scooble outing. Of course, one Cy Young last year.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Oh. All right. Congratulations. Anyway, Clayton, two quick things. One, Arby's che Steak Sandwich, amazing. Ooh, an item oft overlooked by fast food restaurants. Personally, a huge cheese steak fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Love a chicken cheese steak, but a lot of places are like afraid of it. You ended up having like a cheese steak only restaurant. How can you have a chicken cheese steak, isn't steak? It's like basically the way the word steak indicates. Jersey Mike's makes a really good chicken cheese steak. They do. It's just the way they prepared it.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It's sliced chicken breast thrown on the grill just like you would with beef. Or pepper. But my point is the word steak indicates. Correct, they don't have another name but they cut it like it's steak Mmm, and then they just you know you get the same cheese Pork steaks pepper everything just illogical. That's all I'm saying. What about milk steak?
Starting point is 00:15:36 But yeah, so that that was really good And then just spent some quality time with a couple couple buddies for a couple days. You know worked on ourselves. I Love it We just spent some quality time with a couple buddies for a couple days, you know, worked on ourselves. I love it. Keep your feet where you're at. Be where your feet are. Dude, I'll tell you what. Who won the WNBA three point thing? Sabrina Ionesca?
Starting point is 00:15:56 Ayahuasca. Yeah. She said that 17 times. Dude, it's what I'm telling you. Keep your feet where they are. This is what I've been trying to tell you, and I am uniquely positioned. I didn't even have a problem with alcohol.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I went to rehab for some show research, like Cameron Crowe type thing. Because I'm telling you, the sports world has been infected by this therapy talk. It's shoddy, but it's all of them. Hey, it's just about being present and being where my feet are. Those are therapy terms, my friends.
Starting point is 00:16:31 You or me, Blake? We'll let Jake in, because he had a big dick in. Yeah, I'll go. I told you guys last week that I bought a Chuck E. Cheese monthly pass, so now I'm on a goal to try to make the most money I can off of it. I did not know they were that proud of their pizzas.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, yeah. It's pricey. It's pricey. You're okay with that? I'm not okay with it. I think it's a good pizza. I've eaten it independent of visiting the entertainment section of Chuck E. Cheese.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I used to live by the one in Grapevine. In an apartment, I did it multiple times. But, they're pricing in entertainment. How much was just like for a... $20 for a large. Yeah, and it ain't that large. No, but I did see the parents get the large pizza and two beers.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Gave them a little head nod. Respect. I get it. Respect. They had a bunch of birthday parties going on and I think we're coddling kids, and I know we are because before they brought out Chuck E. Cheese, they had all the kids line up face the projector because they were gonna stretch.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It is important. Wow. They have a pre gonna stretch. It is important. Wow. They have a pregame stretch at Chuck E. Cheese. Yeah, before we bring out Chuck E. Cheese, you know, we gotta make sure we're all limber and they're doing all the stuff. Back in my day, before Chuck E. Cheese came out, they would just get the two biggest kids from the party
Starting point is 00:17:58 and have them run into each other head-to-head. Yeah. Little Oklahoma drill. And punch in the balls. Yeah. Gladiator in the ball pit. That's right, yeah. Yeah, but now, stretching and transitioning.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yeah. I was walking around, they had a giant game, like a giant claw game, where you could pick up these little Chuck E. Cheese stuffed animals. And I turn around and a kid had gotten into it. Oh! I've seen that on television before, but. I saw it live.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Ever. It was awesome. Ever? Wow, it's real, huh? Yeah, I've just seen that on TV too. There's no way anybody would start a 911 episode. Yeah, it's like faces on the glass. 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Employees are freaking out. That's awesome. The kid's parents are nowhere to be found. Well, yeah. So they just unlocked the glass, let the kid out. Boy, that'd be great for pictures. I'd love to get a picture of my kid in there. Yeah, that'd be good and So then that same kid broke into like this soccer enclosure thing where like you you try to kick the ball into the goal But they have these like rubber bands holding the ball and he somehow managed his way into there and was just like in the goal The little Hugo Dan Dan. And so.
Starting point is 00:19:05 You might need a slap. You might need one. Yeah, so I just waited around, I had to see the kid's parents. And exactly what you think. I don't know what that means because I don't have that stereotype. Is this a racial thing?
Starting point is 00:19:18 No, they probably went to school with you. Okay. And your wife? Yes. But I just, I wanted to tell her, you don't know the last 30 minutes your kid had. You have no idea. But maybe if that's her kid, she does know.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Maybe that's the kind of thing. I think it's a wild thing to- That little stamp is getting involved in. I mean, I understand it takes a village and everything, Hilary, but I think it's a very weird move as a parent to know you have an out of control kid and think that a public place is just kind of time off
Starting point is 00:19:49 for you. But you see it happen a lot, like, oh, I got a wild one, I'm just gonna throw him into this mix here. What's, I mean, there are other adults, he's probably not gonna die, but he might make it tough on everyone. See that a lot. That's why Carter doesn't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Nobody. I need a ruling because obviously I'm established the run guy, I'm in my phase, and went to go eat Sunday afternoon in the church crowd. Every restaurant's busy, I get it. However, I place an order to go way ahead of time. Pick up at 12.45, I show up at one, I know you're gonna be busy, but I wanna pick up my food and I wanna eat immediately.
Starting point is 00:20:33 So I walk in and there's 30 people in line and no to-go orders yet. And the employees there were focusing on the line in the restaurant. Once they got through all of those, then they worked on the to-go orders. And left a nasty survey, was very upset, but I feel like, I don't know what the process should be,
Starting point is 00:20:53 but I don't like when restaurants do that. Well, I have the impression that the bartender, hold on, we have an update. Oh, Henry made it back. Wow. We've got nine. Incredible time, I believe mine was like 16 minutes. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:07 OK. Go ahead. You can start. Oh, well, you don't really want to eat. But I'll wait till break. Henry made it in nine minutes and 16 seconds. That's good. And it wasn't even ready when I got there.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Wow. Boy, that fits right into the segment here. Do you believe in nasty survey? I might. See? They were doing that same thing last, when I went to pot belly. Boy, that fits right into the segment here. Do you leave a nasty survey? I'm all right. See? They were doing that same thing when I went to Potbelly. Remember I went like at 10 after the show? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Or 10 after 11 and almost didn't make it back for 11.30. And I had to kind of fast walk. I haven't worked at one of these places before. But when I got there, there was a little line, and yes, they were like three guys waiting for there to go because they see the people in line, and it's like, oh, I need to... They're giving looks.
Starting point is 00:21:55 They're gonna be mad if I'm sitting here working on something that's not for them. But at the restaurant... This happens everywhere though. It happens at the, I order smoothies. Sure, it's a squeaky wheel, right? But at the restaurant, I thought the bartender was involved in this process.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Like most of the places I go get food from. Yeah, there's one person dedicated to your to-go person. Right. And sometimes they even have a different window, you know? Or a different part of the restaurant. So that to me does seem the way to manage it. But especially if you came 15 minutes after your pickup time.
Starting point is 00:22:27 That's insane. Just because you're that courteous, or you're just now wanting to sit around. I'm familiar with the process of this place. I know that they're pretty late. I know Sunday afternoon is tough. There's a lot of people there. But I think this strikes to the heart of something
Starting point is 00:22:40 we've talked about recently, talked about it with Adam Romo at Eatsies, I genuinely, when I have a negative experience at places now, want to talk to the person in charge and just be like, I don't really give a shit, I'm in a great mood all the time. You could improve this based on my read on it. But I think a lot of people who do that,
Starting point is 00:23:03 I think they're doing it for themselves. And maybe I'm being sexist, but it feels like women, or whoever, Blake in this case, they just wanna give you a piece of their mind. And I don't wanna feel like I'm coming across that way. In my survey, I laid out how it needs to operate. There needs to be a to-go person. Now I think the problem was this to-go person
Starting point is 00:23:21 also had to refill the food in the buffet line. So she was making the chicken and filling the beans and all this and also trying to this to-go person also had to refill the food in the buffet line. So she was making the chicken and filling the beans and all this and also trying to do to-go, but she just got slammed. My point was, how'd you not see this coming? Every Sunday afternoon at 12.30, there's going to be a rush of people, be prepared. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:40 That's, survey online? Yeah. Okay. It's just a step I don't know I'd go. Cause once you, you're right. Once you leave and you cool down a little bit, you're like, all right, well, whatever. Well, no, it's- But if you want to help them-
Starting point is 00:23:54 This place- Establish the run guy though is going to- This place does this to me every Sunday. Yeah, he's had enough. I've had it about up to here. That's good. Well, and you might think, well, what if I just stop going there
Starting point is 00:24:06 and giving them my money then? Kind of how the market works. And they are like, well, fine, look at this giant line. We don't really care. But they upset a lot of people on Sunday. I don't know. But also, dude, like, I'll give you a good example, not to spiff our sponsors again,
Starting point is 00:24:21 we're all out of order here, but like, I know a guy who had a sit-in through community, Travis missed his initial email. They don't really, I mean I'm sure everybody needs business, but it's not like they are, but he hit the guy back up and was like, hey can I get back in here, here's what was happening, I'm it. I think if you treat everyone like they're
Starting point is 00:24:39 an important customer, it just sort of has a general. No, no, no, yeah, But I'm just telling Blake what I think that restaurant doesn't care about Blake. Boy, had it up to here. And they don't, but I wasn't nasty in my email. I just thought, as in, like a person who's decently organized, I just saw a flow that was not optimized.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah. And it could be better. Truly, I, as being in business and stuff, if someone in our business is doing something that's angering someone outside, I want to know. Now, do those, again, does that owner just say, I don't care? It depends. Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:25:16 But you have to have a caring owner, like me. Had it up to here. Very caring. Very established the run. Thursday night, I think it was, I was ordering dinner and we had found a little deal. I was like, oh look, this dinner for two thing. And it was $25 and as we were ordering it, it was clear that they were gonna give you
Starting point is 00:25:37 a slightly smaller portion, so I'm like, Kristen says something like, oh extra meat is $5 per person. And reflexively the phrase left my mouth, that's where they get you. And I stopped down, she stopped down, and was like, this is it, you're going through the transfer?
Starting point is 00:25:56 I can't tell you how many times my dad has summed up and assessed the economic situation purely as that's where they get you. That's right. A quick note, we took, the trip was down to the beach. Are you done with your? Surfside beach. If you're going out of town, anywhere else in Texas,
Starting point is 00:26:17 for me, I'm going to HEB, because we still don't have one here. But we are about to get one. And it's gonna be over at 121 in that like glade area, which is already a lot. Yeah, they're building one in Murphy. So yeah, they're blowing, we're gonna finally have them. And you've never really had like a,
Starting point is 00:26:36 much of an experience with HEB, it is the parent company of Central Market. I was gonna say, Central Market sells HEB stuff. Right, so HEB owns that, and for me, the combination of quality, selection, and price is unbeatable. I like the HEB stuff. It's good.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Which surprised me, because I won't buy Kroger. That's what I'm telling you, though. And they're paper towels. Like, you go buy HEB brand cheese, whatever, it's great. And it priced well. So when they open that one over there on 121, it's going to be a madhouse. It's gonna be mayhem,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and I don't deal with that real well. So I will be likely doing what I did down in Galveston, which is using the HEB order ahead and pick up your groceries. Boy, I don't like that if you're doing produce or something. Don't love it, sometimes you have to do it. If you don't wanna go into a place that's gonna be Bucky's times 10.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And here's what I learned. I told you guys a few weeks ago, a couple months, I did a pickup order at Walmart, and I asked the guy, can I tip you? And he said, no, my homie got fired for taking a tip last week. They don't let you tip us. Which, I don't know, if we're gonna start making a list
Starting point is 00:27:47 of what is acceptable or reasonable to tip for, I feel like that one's on the line of, yeah, I mean, when I used to do that job, somebody would give me 50 cents or a dollar. Yeah, no, I've tried to tip the guy, what's the one in Colleyville? Market Street? Market Street, because they'll walk you out.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And I've tried to tip someone, they've told me no, we're not allowed to take tips. And then I've tried to tip someone else, and he said, we're not allowed to take tips. But he looked around. Yeah, sure. What I'm telling you though is, HEB, in line with a company with values and integrity,
Starting point is 00:28:27 will let you tip the car guy. And with H-E-B coming to both of our towns, men of efficiency, I thought that spoke well of them. That they will let you tip. Yeah. Now, I thought you would, you established the Run Guys would want them to, hey, just pay your employees well enough
Starting point is 00:28:48 that we don't just have to tip. Yeah, and I think HEB, ironically, like this is how it usually goes, right? They do. HEB pays their employees very well. And, you know, took care of people through COVID and take care of people through whatever, times of need. And they're the company that will not fire you
Starting point is 00:29:06 for taking a tip. I thought tipping was confusing enough before COVID. Agreed, agreed. And I saw somebody doing the Starbucks rant that pops up on social media every couple of weeks. Oh, why am I tipping? Yeah, and I don't know. I don't know what the line is.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I just usually do it, but this one feels acceptable. I don't do it because it's like, God, you're grifting me. Well, especially the coffee one, because you don't know how your coffee is yet. Like you're tipping ahead of the product. Well, Uber and DoorDash, as Dan has pointed out. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah. Uber. Uber. DoorGash. DoorGash. Is this now your weekend check, or do you want me to whip through mine? Oh I forgot that I was supposed to end. Yeah go ahead.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I have very little more. Oh okay. My quick one is just that I have a a gummy thought over the weekend. Cause I'm going to visit my daughter in Clemson this week. Mmm. And so I have to talk to her about, I'm helping her move. She's moving for the first time in two years,
Starting point is 00:30:10 maybe three years she's living the same place. Moving within the Clemson community? Yeah, so I got it, but she's moving five minutes away or whatever, so she's got a bed and all this stuff. She's got a transport. So I rented a truck. I'm flying to Atlanta, rented a truck.-hour drive from Atlanta to Clemson. Then we'll we'll do the moving on Thursday. Bingo. What's that a burp? Morkintown. So I had to get a hold of her
Starting point is 00:30:39 but I wanted to see where she was. Like if she's at work, she works for the Clemson football team, then I can't I can't call her so I checked the find my phone I see Blake's at this restaurant I don't know where Blake was but Blake's on find my phone we share each other's location super cool and so I'm watching her though, she's driving. And you could see in real time, you see, oh, she's driving up this Tiger Boulevard. They have. And then, you know, I could see exactly where she's going. And I thought that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And then I was also earlier in the day, I had been looking at a map, I think, of Ventura, California, and where our Airbnb is going to be in that city when we go to Cowboys Camp. And I was looking at the satellite view so I could see what the houses looked like and all that kind of stuff. And I was thinking, then I added those things together. And I thought, in the future, will I be able to go to find my phone? And not only will it just kind of show this little dot, because when you look on Google View,
Starting point is 00:31:54 you're looking at a picture that was taken maybe a year ago, maybe five years ago, whatever. Will we actually be able to hook up to a satellite? And I'm just watching Blake drive along the road Like that's actually Blake and I'm like on the phone with him. I'm like Put your hand out the window and he puts his hand out the wind like well everybody will just be able to see Yeah in real time actual satellite photo of my daughter driving along well so that you know that technology certainly exists But making it available to consumers,
Starting point is 00:32:26 I don't think that would be that hard or that expensive over time. But as much of like a big brother state as we all talk about and feel for, fear of. We've allowed it. Yeah. We've welcomed it. There are protections.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Like there are privacy protections in this country, specifically, that I don't, I don't know that that would ever be. I mean, again, is it if you're giving consent, like that person, for you to merely track her location, you both have to accept it. So maybe if you opt in, but, I mean, there's things, you know, you can right now, there are cameras everywhere,
Starting point is 00:33:04 satellite, you can watch like, there are cameras everywhere, satellite, you can watch like war from some of these cameras. You can watch, you know, cameras all over the world that are live. That's not, you know, tracking a person, but. I think. I think it's very possible. In this weekend though of the Indians and the Redskins
Starting point is 00:33:22 perhaps on the list of things that are coming back, I think doing things without consent is coming back. So get ready guys. Yeah, I mean. Get to game day men's health and get yourself geared up. Honestly, it's on the list of things. It's in the same era of things that left. So why stop at the Redskins? And then my main thing of the weekend, so I didn't really do, I didn't really go anywhere or do anything except I spent a lot of time with two of my very close friends as
Starting point is 00:33:49 well, as Clayton said he did, and that was high atop my garage. This is my fault. Clayton kind of passive aggressively, as he will do, reminded me of that yesterday, as we were spending another eight hours in the den. I'm very excited for you to see it. I am as well. You weren't there. And there was a little griping about Jake not being here. And I did say, like, this is pretty much my fault because I looked at hey wait Jake needs
Starting point is 00:34:25 these two days off we've been talking for a while about wanting to change things up in here let's stop the talk let's get them panties off let's go and then these idiots agreed to it you know they had a Friday and a Monday off but they were like yeah let's do it I know Blake really didn't want to, but we couldn't have done all this stuff without, but I don't know, we transformed the den. It's a mini-renny, it's a Chip and Jojo thing, it's a, I was talking to John Kukla before the show,
Starting point is 00:34:58 Property Brothers, he said, you gotta do a Property Brothers reveal where you bring Jake in and then he can squeal with delight. That's a good idea. There was a period of time where my entire evening, every night, was based around the effing reveal. Like, we didn't have kids and I'm like, I think I can get laid.
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's just, this show, we have to wait for the reveal! It's two Starbucks baristas with a budget of eight million. Yeah, those are the best accounts. to wait for the reveal. It's two Starbucks baristas with a budget of eight million. Yeah. Those are the best accounts. Everybody was doing those jokes before they started making those meme accounts. But it's just, yeah, I'm a speech pathologist. My husband draws pictures for comic books.
Starting point is 00:35:37 We want to be near downtown. We want to entertain. No, what usually happens is my budget's like a million. is they're like, my budget's like a million and they're like, this house is $17 million. It's insane. It's not an accurate representation of house shopping. The Property Brothers though, it's a good show. It's different than House Hunters,
Starting point is 00:35:56 but you gotta have the reveal. Dead to Renny in the den, Renny in the denny. They don't want to marry to a famous person. And it's a lot cleaner. We'll reveal that to the public in the future, but the game day, not the game day men's health, the game watching parties. There's gonna be so much room for activities.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I love it. Yes. We made bunk beds. It's incredible. No power tools. Henry did karate. Oh yeah. Got our swords. Property brother Jonathan Scott, by the way,
Starting point is 00:36:27 married to Zooey Deschanel. Whoa. I knew he was married to somebody famous. That's a nice piece. Hell yeah it is, man. It's really putting on for HGTV. I forgot one thing if I can jump back in here. You do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I went to go see Beth's daughter perform in Beetlejuice on Saturday. It was at the Wiley Acting Group over in Wiley nearby me and it's just a community theater where the Wiley high school kids put together a play. And so I took Brooks and I don't think I'd ever seen Beetlejuice and I was sitting there thinking,
Starting point is 00:37:03 I wonder if I should have brought my three and a half year old to see this play about this dead guy trying to come back to life but it was awesome I think I said the same thing last time I'm just super impressed by these high schoolers and their talents because if you're... Drop Beth has a actor daughter? Yeah. Because... Actress daughter. You know, it's... Did you say actress? Is that coming back? I don't...
Starting point is 00:37:29 The AP in there, when they put out the birthdays now, they will put actor by all the ladies. Yeah, that's been for a couple years. But I watched the Academy Awards. Yeah. And they still have a best actress, so I was very confused. I thought, we're all actors here. I thought, what are we doing? Oh, now we wanna separate?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Okay, anyway. Pay him what you owe us, or whatever. No, if you're a high school kid, or you're just a kid in that age, let's say you're good at sports, I mean, you have competitions for that. You can showcase that. But for the kid that is a vastly talented singer,
Starting point is 00:38:09 it's hard for you to showcase that. Or maybe you just wanna get into acting. This was a good place for you to show that talent. And sitting there watching it, I thought it was cool because this kid has probably practiced this a million times and taken voice lessons and taking acting classes. And sometimes people like that never get to show that.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And for them to come together and do that, it was really cool. And the money, it felt better spending money on that than go seeing a movie at a theater or what have you. You sound like a jock, knuckle dragging jock guy who like just realized something else in life. It's 100% Chris Klein, not Chris Klein,
Starting point is 00:38:52 what's his name, from American Pie. He's the lacrosse guy, but he can sing a little bit too. So he goes to choir. This exists. Well. So cool that someone that's into that stuff. I thought all they did was make out with each other and cut Maybe it's a kid thing and just seeing the parents proud of their kid and their kid getting to show
Starting point is 00:39:11 I don't know. I know what you mean super it was really cool. I know what both of you mean It's good to show Brooks that there is something else to life Then dominating on the softball field or gymnastics Yeah, speaking of that, yeah, we can do this quick here. I was just thinking about, we did a story last week about Dig World opening at Grapevine Mills
Starting point is 00:39:34 in partnership with Dude Perfect. And I didn't really know what Dig World was at the time. That was, it was introduced to me in that news story. They'd been on Shark Tank. And I was reminded of this as I was driving through Houston over the weekend. There's a massive dig world in Katy. I was like, oh, we were just talking about that.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Now that dig world down there has nothing to do with Dude Perfect, okay? The one up here. Then I'm out. Is announced that it'll be a plan designed by and marketed in coordination with Dude Perfect. So I got to thinking, this thing's gonna be down the street from my house.
Starting point is 00:40:11 My kid obviously is into tractors, trucks, digging, and I haven't pushed him away from that. But he has no idea who Dude Perfect are, and I was going to keep it that way. And honestly, don't think it would have been that hard, because- But you have to go to this thing with a big pile of- I could have avoided them forever.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I mean, you give me a book, I don't give it to him. I come up with some lie about how it's evil, like I have for some other things. Whatever, he would have been avoiding Dude Perfect. So- Now, because they're associated with this, he's gonna think they're the coolest thing that's ever. 100%, even though it has nothing to do
Starting point is 00:40:49 with their bullshit act, which I was going to discourage him from on a, honestly, a philosophical basis. And I'm surprised that Blake established the Run Guy lets Dude Perfect into his home because they are the embodiment of the generation of easy. Right, let's just put, you know what, because they are the embodiment of the generation of easy. Right, let's just put, you know what, I'm gonna start a new channel called Guys Maybe,
Starting point is 00:41:12 and it's kids executing like a stock block really well. And let me tell you something, when you're out there, you're stock blocking, you feel the running back, running behind you, probably a black guy, feels cool. You're like, I did that. Maybe. But Dude Perfect is, it's NFL Blitz.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I hated kids who loved NFL Blitz. You know why? Because I was over here grinding a 30 year dynasty and managing the waiver wire on Madden in franchise mode, like a real fucking sports fan. Well, you are a stablister run guy. Blitz, Dude Perfect, it's the same thing. And I could have avoided all of that and taught my kid how to bust up a wedge.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But now... Or make his free throws. Make his free throws. Drop step, back to the basket. But now Dude Perfect is involved in something that has nothing to do with sports. It's a thing that's completely independent of that. And honestly, it's no different than when I, we would do ads on the station for churches and I would jokingly be like,
Starting point is 00:42:08 you know, can my local mosque buy an ad? What's different than, this is just like ISIS sponsoring some park or something. Honestly, ISIS has more to do with digging and dirt than Dude Perfect does. It's just throwing a brand that you would like to keep away from your children onto something kids are all gonna enjoy to corrupt their minds so they'll buy your shit
Starting point is 00:42:30 for the next 20 years. Their whole bit. Which is exactly what ISIS does. That's their audience though. I know, but it has. And they wanna get them, you know, you always wanna get them earlier. Yeah. So their audience is like preteen boys.
Starting point is 00:42:41 What's before sports? Trucks. Preteen boys though is, let's go to before preteen. Let's go get them. And he's going to lock him in. And once he's a teenager, he'll kind of figure out, I don't think I should be watching Dude Perfect. Number one, once your kid is a teenager,
Starting point is 00:42:56 they'll all be like 55. Well, dude, they're going to have another generation. They've already got like a farm system. They're going to be the Savannah Bananas. They've already got like a farm system. They're gonna be the Savannah bananas. They'll just be a franchise of dude perfect stuff for kids because they're very good at what they do. And then your kid will wanna be in that next, can he try out? Oh, that's already happening.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It'll be like the soups. Every kid who goes to that show thinks, maybe, you know? I mean, Sean. What if they pull me out of the crowd? Our buddy, Sane has been sending his, he took his kid, now his kid's doing trick shots and celebrating like crazy. Fine, if you wanna let your kids be infected by that culture, go for it.
Starting point is 00:43:34 But I'm a white blocking wide receiver. And that is not the life we're gonna live. If CKY was sponsoring the dig zone, you'd be there every weekend. You make a good point all right we moved to sports and we have an announcement to make I don't know don't we we do we do the announcement is that we have confirmed that we will again this year have a weekly Brandon Aubrey show. Whoa! The All-Pro Kicker. I don't know. Everyone probably, maybe you assume this was locked in but around here we've been worried the price of the
Starting point is 00:44:22 brick is going up because the guy's the best in the world at what he does. He remains gracious enough to give us his time. What a good dude. For real. So we locked that in. And then it turns out that Community Mechanical, our HVAC company, they bought up the season-long sponsorship. They are
Starting point is 00:44:47 the title sponsor of the Brandon Aubrey program this year. They are the guys that want you to just give them a call or a text and set up some preventative maintenance. Just have them check out your stuff. They found like a duct that was dislodged in my attic, which was pouring carbon monoxide into the attic. They said that wasn't good. 469-667-7290. But also, they've helped out a ton of people, including Brandon Aubrey himself, who I guess Brandon Aubrey had another company come in and say, oh man, your system is shot. It's gonna be $15,000 to repair it.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Community Mechanical took a look at it and said, oh look, it's this little thing that's wrong here. It'll cost about a hundred bucks for that part, maybe a couple dollars for labor. And now you're out, everything's fine, dude. Don't worry about it. And that kind of trust you know eventually whenever he does need a system perhaps he'll go with Community Mechanical and you should too. Emails every day from people who have like oh yeah community did this for me community
Starting point is 00:45:57 did that and now they are the Brandon Aubrey show sponsor so enough with the commercial about Community Mechanical we should also mention that we want to do something and they are going to do this for a theme song contest. We need a theme and it needs to be all pro. We need a theme for the Brandon Aubrey show and it is very important that you hear these producer notes. It needs to get to it. So whatever lyrics you have probably need to stop right around 20 seconds. You could probably up that a couple, but you guys listen, you know, a long theme song can be a beating. You're going to sit and listen to it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You're going to hear it 18 times, probably more. So, you know, just follow those instructions and we'll pick the best one and have a prize if I understand correctly. Yes the prize is from Community Mechanical. They're offering tickets to any regular season because I told him well we could do preseason or something people love just getting in the building. He's like I'm not gonna do preseason. He's like, who do you think I am? I'm Travis Gafford, god damn it. Make it the regular season. So he said a game of your choice, he'll work with you on what that's gonna be,
Starting point is 00:47:21 you know, how it's gonna go down, but if you win Yes tickets to any Cowboys game this year from Community Mechanical But yeah, we'd like to get some good entries if we can so send them to Should we go to the dumb zone? Yeah the dumb zone at gmail.com and this be controversial, but I mean, I don't care if it's AI, because some of the AI songs we get from people are good. But we're going to be the judges, and if your actual band, I might weigh it a little heavier that way,
Starting point is 00:47:56 if it's a real band. There's AI slop, like what I do, but there's some people that are musically talented that use AI, but yes. Sure. I'd say weighted heavily, but we's some people that are musically talented that use AI, but yes, I'd say weighted heavily, but we want the best theme. We do want the best. So yeah, so thanks Community Mechanical for doing the whole Brandon Aubrey thing, and
Starting point is 00:48:15 the Brandon Aubrey Show theme song contest commences now and ends right before the season. We'll figure that out. So get your entries in. get your thinking caps on, get your whatever cap you do when you do stuff. What? I don't know. I'm trying to find the audio. Oh yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Cowboys? Absolutely. It's Cowboys season. So yesterday, it is, man. I'm excited. Kind of excited we're going to training camp in a couple of weeks too, because I don't know. You get over this initial week of stuff
Starting point is 00:48:59 and then it seems to, I don't know, it loses some steam, but I like that we're gonna be, I like the whim we were out there last year, where we kind of had the run of the place, and we're kind of gonna do that again this year. Yeah. So we're going in a couple of weeks,
Starting point is 00:49:18 and they had their opening press conference yesterday in Oxnard. It's an hour long. I would like to, you know, I like to just sit and listen. So we've already all listened to this, but marked a couple of spots that we think is really more entertaining than not. So let me just start. This is like a minute in or so. We can stop and start. We can fast forward however you want to do it, but there's a lot. I mean, a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:51 My theme coming out of this, I don't know if you want to lay out your theme previous to listening to it, but Jerry is really, he's a bit of an established the run guy where even though he lives in this world where he's that you know his franchise like ten billion dollars he's really hung up on the money these guys are making these days. Yeah. The money with the money they're making they should just do this with the money they're making like he does sound like your dad. I would say the other if I would say point out a theme prior to playing it would be just the emphasis on Dak.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And that is related to the thing that you just said there. So to him, and there's some truth to this, like last season you're not thinking this thing's a mess if Dak's not gone for X amount of games. So he's mentioning that several times. But every time he mentions Dak, or almost every time, he tags it with who I made the highest paid player disposition last year, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:50 So even that, he can't look at Dak even, the one thing that he feels good about with being like, it's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. And I, spoiler, I don't think he's totally wrong about all this. You know, I mean, I get the players, I'm pro player, player impact, I just't think he's totally wrong about all this. You know, I mean, I get the players,
Starting point is 00:51:05 I'm pro player, player, I just wanted to be treated fairly and largely was at the end of a contract. But the idea now that you can halfway through a contract be like, I mean, I feel like I'm getting screwed here. It really does take everything beneficial away from the club. It just, but it's kind of the way it is now. He can yell at a cloud all he wants about it.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah, and the NFL set that up that way. Right. Because if they want to guarantee contracts, then, again, it's all to protect them from themselves, because if they had to guarantee contracts, I'd be very interested to see what these contracts were if everything was fully guaranteed. Cause you'd have to.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah, you know. It feels like money would go down. Money would go down across the board, but like you might have quarterbacks getting paid even more, right? Like if you're gonna be saving money somewhere, you're gonna have a cap. Like if the cap stayed the same and you were like, man, I don't know if I really want to pay 20,
Starting point is 00:52:08 quarterbacks are, you could, you would pay them more now if you could. Anyway, let's start listening to this or else. Sure. Michael Parsons. Do you expect him, even though he's here, do you expect him to practice until he gets a contract finalized? Well, everybody here is under contract, everybody. Yes, yes, and so that's what that is. From the standpoint of, let's say, what happens relative to,
Starting point is 00:52:38 I'm looking at the entire NFL when I say this, and that's players that are under contract NFL when I say this. And that's players that are under contract and teams looking to make it better for the team and for the player. In terms of that, that is incumbent if you're in that price range. When you're up there in that top 10%, so to speak, of the league, in that top quartile of your team, leadership is really big. And leadership exhibits itself when you're negotiating as well.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And so I'm appreciative of Michael being here. I am. And it's incumbent upon us all. We've got a player that we've docked him for not being here during offseason workout, as you well know. And we will find him for that. Because those parts of a contract to go directly toward the leadership that he is as a player relative to the rest of the team. And certainly, obviously to our fans as well. So I'm big into, and not alone either, a big into showing anything you can do for leadership if you're going to be one of these guys that are in the top drawer of all the money.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Clarence. Clarence Hill, All City DLMS. I know it takes two to tango and every contract is different, but in March you talked about Michael and that you had everything in place as far as an agreement mentally on the numbers. Here we are in July and you still haven't had a deal. Any frustration of why a deal has not been done? Not at all. Not at all. I have, we do, and I don't mean this, I have things undone, dangling participles. I bet I have 20 of them every day in some pretty serious areas. You can't have it all
Starting point is 00:54:47 done at the same time. Okay, we can fast forward a little, I think. I see his, you know, what he's saying is if you're going to be at this high level, one of the top paid players, we want you to also exhibit leadership. You don't necessarily get paid on that though. That's a subjective thing that you get paid because of your stats and how good of a player you are. Not necessarily how good of a leader you are. Because if you are a good leader, but your skills are diminishing, you will be cut.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And so that's kind of the player's stance, I would think. You will be cut, but you will also, I think, be given a longer leash, and you will be, you know, brought back at a lower number more likely, right? Jamie Benz style, but you're right. But I think you need to not be a negative. So they can't write in a contract like, hey idiot, you're one of the four highest paid players on every single team, that guy usually has to exhibit
Starting point is 00:55:56 some sort of leadership, be it quiet or not. They can't say that, but I do think that's implied. But if you're a quiet guy, you're a quiet guy. But I don't know that you can be getting fined. But you know what's interesting about Trayvon, and I'm sure we're gonna talk about this, he didn't really break the bank with his contract. He got paid early and said, just give me my money.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Which I find, in retrospect, a little interesting. He didn't demand top of the market money. Kind of like, well, I was gonna compare him to Zeke, but Zeke did compare top of the market. I just find it interesting when a guy's like, you know, I could play longer and really show how awesome I am. I'll just take what you'll give me now.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Kind of make me like 10th or 11th highest paid. That's an odd psychology for a pro athlete, but. And at the time, he was the bee's knees, right? He was more so than. Yeah. More so than like a Jalen Smith was. Nobody was saying he was the best linebacker in the league. Todd Archer with ESPN.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Steven, in the past you guys have been able to work deals here, long-term extensions with guys. Are there plans to talk to Mike, his agent, while you guys are here, and maybe other players as well? Well, obviously, when you're together here at camp, you know, it makes for a good environment to get some things done before the season starts. You know, at the end of the day, I think, Clarence, you said it best,
Starting point is 00:57:19 it does take two. And a lot of times, you might be surprised where we might be and where they might have been, where they were wanting to hold. And obviously, I think most players do understand if you're willing to take risk, you want to go out on the field and wait a year to do your contract. And you play well and you bet on yourself, then usually that will happen. In a positive way for the player, they understand that. But no, this is a great environment to look at not just Micah's situation,
Starting point is 00:57:50 but all situations in terms of players that are probably gonna be up for contract next year, or be in a year where they're either could be franchised or tendered or whatever that may be. So we're always looking for those opportunities and certainly the players. We have players that are interested in that and we'll be working on that while we're here at camp. And Ryan with Micah. I don't think I need to hear shoddy just yet.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Why does every shoddy question feel like a bone thrown? Because it is. Yes, during this press conference he spoke very little and I believe this is exactly what Jerry Jones wants. It's the Jerry Jones show here. Yeah. Shoddy is happy. Little window dressing. Happy to be here. Yeah. Shottie is? Happy. Little window dressing. Happy to be here. Yeah. All right. Let's just jump ahead a little. Tom Yarst, stylescowboys.com.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Jerry kind of brought it up a little bit earlier with Trevon Diggs. What went into that decision and then what do you want to see from him as a leader, like you mentioned, and where do you feel like he is in the recovery process? We expect a player paid like Trevon to be here all the time. We expect him to be leading. We expect him to be leading. Again, you said it too, it's not in the contract and I think some of that really was a problem when it's Aaron Rogers or a quarterback that all of a sudden they're not involved in all of the team stuff. Way, way bigger deal. I don't think it's as far as the team is
Starting point is 00:59:42 concerned that big of a deal for Trayvon Diggs to not be at everything. Yeah, but there's, okay, so there's a bit of a weird thing going on here. Are you gonna play the part where he's talking about Dion? Eventually, I think. Okay, well, let me just reference this because he does, you know, it's hey,
Starting point is 01:00:00 Dion worked out on his own too, and I didn't like that, but. And he pulled him aside and said don't. Pulled him aside and said don't. The thing I think Jerry has a hard time with, and you know, this shows up sometimes in the player surveys, you know, that they're not necessarily A plus on everything training facility wise and strength and conditioning wise,
Starting point is 01:00:21 but I think Jerry looks at it like personally offended. Like, dude, I've got this, I built the star. Like, this is the best place for anybody to do anything. We have all the training, all the nutrition you need here. I have the best coaches. Like, I'm not Cincinnati, where you could reasonably say, I don't wanna work out there. This is the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And I think it pisses Jerry off, because typically guys come into the Cowboys scene and they're blown away. They are eyes just like, oh, I wanna be here all the time. And Trayvon kinda doesn't care. Yeah. But that's not new. That goes all the way back. Deon, Deon was not necessarily given
Starting point is 01:01:01 to come to the weight room. And I explained to him that it meant a lot for him to the weight room. And I explained to him that it meant a lot for him to be in there. I said, does the fact that I have more weight trainers and more equipment and I work hard every day have anything to do with it? And I said, it needs to have a needs to have some show with it. And so that all the team and everybody can do it. He said, you're all done.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I get it. But the important, it's important to have the right body language and every respect when you are one of those rare, rare financially paid and gifted players. Bingo, bingo, bingo. You've got to have some leadership about you. But the de-escalation is contractual. Yeah. Spelled out. So he understood when he decided he was going to train in South Florida, he understood
Starting point is 01:01:56 what would be the, what the consequences would be. Jane. Jerry, I was just curious because you know how these headlines can blow up. You said you don't always talk to the principals. In other words, David Mugaleta, Mike Parsons, the agent. Why have you not spoken to him more directly the way you have Todd France or David Cantor in the past? Jerry didn't speak to Todd France.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Okay. And Jerry, as he said, doesn't speak to many agents. I do. So what is your relationship with Mugletta been so far? We've always had a good relationship with Mulligetta. What would you say is- And specifically, you know, Adam- Which one of them is mispronouncing that name? Is it, I would guess-
Starting point is 01:02:39 It's Steven. Steven would mispronounce it more than Jane Slater because she's- Knows him quite well. Okay. Yeah. Speaks to the agents as well. So, but Jerry's typically, whether it's a coach or a player, speaks directly to the principal. And I don't talk to the attorneys and all of the other stuff that goes on too. Now,
Starting point is 01:03:00 really wouldn't be time for everything if you did that. Okay. Let me jump ahead a little bit here. The other thing I would say is contracts are four or five years. Okay. There's a lot of water under the bridge. If you step out there and do something in the first two or three, you get hit by a car. And so there's a lot to look at over a lot of years that could make a big difference. Have you ever heard of any clubs committing to players and then they didn't pan out after they committed to them?
Starting point is 01:03:37 We have. And so my point is there's all the reasons in the world to, when you're under contract, and if you're not under contract, one of the things that exacerbates this is that you have a kind of a... See, you could see his frustration, especially with Micah and probably C.D. last year and everything. It's when you're under contract, when you're under contract. The problem with what they're doing right now, is their problem over the last 30 years, or 29 years is now the drought, is that they
Starting point is 01:04:11 don't really have a way they do things. It can change based on way back in the day it was Michael Irvin was getting into cocaine and hookers, oh my gosh here's Randy Moss, looks like it could be the next Michael Irvin. I'm going to stay away from him. Then Randy Moss really pans out. Okay, I'll draft the next wide receiver that's kind of shaky because that guy did pan. For sure. And that's, they don't have the reason that CD Lamb and Micah Parsons are doing what they do. CD Lam and Micah Parsons are doing what they do, and I don't know if Micah's going to hold in or whatever, but be there, but under contract, but demanding a new contract, is that Zeke did it with two years left on his deal.
Starting point is 01:04:57 You've shown the track record. You've shown how to deal with the Cowboys. This is how you deal with the Cowboys. How do you get paid? Well, this might not work with a lesser player, but if I'm one of the top players on the team, I've found out the way to get the Cowboys to pay you is to... Yeah....threaten them is to hold out. You don't think Moolah Ghetta hasn't talked to Todd France and Zeke's guy, Rocky Arsinoe, I think was his name, the greatest agent ever. They not only know how it's going to eventually end,
Starting point is 01:05:29 they know the level of bullshit that's gonna go on leading up to it. Dude, the most excited I've ever been, well, whatever, hyperbole, but from where the Cowboys were philosophically was the summer or the camp where Zeke was holding out, Jerry was like really talking my language. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 01:05:49 He was sitting down like, why do you need the highest paid running back to win a Super Bowl? I think we're seeing across the league that you can get a good running back if your offensive line is really good. He was positioning it like he had learned. And then in my head, it's like,
Starting point is 01:06:01 well, they also let the Marco Murray walk, so there's something in there. But then you know, they drafted Zeke right away and that's another point, a data point for your case. We're gonna let DeMarco go. We can get by with a cheaper running back. Darren McFadden comes in, has a decent year. They're like, what did we learn from that? Let's drag Zeke.
Starting point is 01:06:18 He had a thousand yards, he had a good year. He had a good year, but I wanna be careful on like how impactful he really was. My point is just- But the plan worked. It pretty much worked. And then they were like, we're gonna draft Z, top five.
Starting point is 01:06:34 So I just think if you're an agent, like in this case, Micah's agent, you've definitely talked to the other guys and seen how this goes. Is that you have a kind of a policy You've definitely talked to the other guys and seen how this goes. obligation to do something before the contract is over. Okay? In other words, not have the benefit of the contract. Well, that goes completely against the benefit of the club, which ultimately should be to put a winning team on the field.
Starting point is 01:07:18 And the more that you can husband, the more that you can spread it out and put it around and have other good players rather than all going to a few players, the better team you got. So there's a lot of reasons. Timing is a lot of reasons. And in fact, why would you go out and basically spend money just to spend money and not have had to spend it, but you can spend it three years later. Money costs money. There's a lot of reasons why. This old business of thinking, well my goodness, it's pretty obvious to me everything goes up, so why
Starting point is 01:07:56 don't you catch it when it's low? Have you ever thought that when it's low there's counting on it going up and those are the numbers that are coming out. Not the ones that are going on right there. Have you ever thought about that? So what he's saying there is they're projecting the cap to go up, the agent is doing that. And so he's asking for the number based on that future cap and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I think that's what he's saying. And he's, yeah, yeah. He's just getting upset at the game here. Based on future cap increases and also based on estimations of just general contract, like the high end, right? Which is related to the cap, but if you're just saying like,
Starting point is 01:08:34 hey, this guy just signed for this, so the guy three years from now, he'll probably sign for this. And Jerry's saying, I don't always work that way. Not the ones that are going on right there. Have you ever thought about that? I'd say 90% of the time, they are not dealing with you in those numbers today. They're dealing with projected numbers, which honestly usually have more fluff than reality.
Starting point is 01:08:58 They've usually got an imagination, not an imagination, but an expectation that those numbers are going to be higher than they are. And there's a debate, okay, what if we're sitting here putting the club together and we're trying to get them and we don't believe they're going that high. Only God really knows, you know. So all of that comes to play. That's all true, but the problem is, is that they still end up just paying, you know, whatever, for the most part, top market value, right? I mean, the reason they didn't pay Trayvon that
Starting point is 01:09:32 is he didn't ask for it. He asked for guaranteed money at this amount at that time, and he can hem and haw about this all he wants, but they end up just giving the player whatever they want. The problem is, they get none of the benefit. They wait to the very end and then pay the most money. So they not only get the, they don't get it cheaper on the front end because the player hasn't produced as much,
Starting point is 01:09:56 they also enter a more expensive market. He's just complaining. He is, but he said something that I haven't heard him say before, which is these agents try to project out what they will be worth. So even if they start the discussions when they're supposed to, there could be some inflation there, which I hadn't really thought about.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, you're going to have to battle that, whether you're year 0, 1, 2, or 3, whether you're early or late. You're right. We have a lot more, but we also have a couple of sponsors we need to give love to. In fact, let's just do one.
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Starting point is 01:11:33 what I was saying. That's all we're trying to do. This is pretty much it. Peace. So check it out. Joe Spoy, Dallas Morning News. Jerry Cunney just talked about you know the things that can happen before contracts happen and that's why you kind of wait for it a little bit You've done deals though early with Trayvon Diggs with Terrence Steele before it was time for it What's the difference between those situations in a situation like C.D. Lamb and Micah Parsons? Frankly, frankly, okay. Oh, we're double Should we have waited on Ds and steel now we're talking oh you brought him up I did
Starting point is 01:12:16 The other thing is the willingness clean up Steven, I mean you have players who you know who decide hey I'm willing to wait and I'm gonna wait on bigger numbers. And then you got other players who wanna be more conservative and say, hey, I'd like to have my money now. And that's, every person's different. Every player's different. I mean, you saw the funny thing here is like with Dak,
Starting point is 01:12:42 they're gonna reference like injury possibility. I mean, like, with DAC, they're going to reference, like, injury possibility. I mean, if you sign this, you... DAC got injured in this contract year, and it was a terrible injury, and he still got all the money. Unless it's a career-ending injury, which is a lot more rare, who's the receiver that Jake was in love with that got injured? Michael Gallup. Gallup got injured. Even him. Even he got paid. And it wasn't top of the market, but it was top of the market for a guy like Gallup. Yeah. It wasn't like they got a deal on that because he was injured. And that's what he would have got on the open market. That's the point. That's the point. When you have, when they become a free agent, what could they get out
Starting point is 01:13:34 there? And that's what you got to, that's what you got to pay them. And you respect both sides. And like I said, we'll talk to four or five other guys other than Micah who are gonna be up next year. Some will say, hey, I wanna wait and play and think my numbers will go up. I'll play better, I'll do better. The numbers will be up from last year. And we certainly respect that. And then you have some players who say, hey,
Starting point is 01:14:02 I'm ready to take care of my family and decide to go now. And they've been varying for 30 years. Who wants to go ahead and do it early and who wants to wait? Steven, on that note, would you like to open conversations with Tyler Smith and his representation? Okay. Let's go to, let me give you a little break, interlude from Steven and Jerry to shotty doing what shot he does Mozzie looks great saw him last night he looks great he's excited he's ready to go
Starting point is 01:14:31 he looks awesome again young player and then Tyler Geithen I saw the thing of him training in the rain doing some boxing but again he's worked his ass off and again why is training camp different because these guys actually get to hit each other. They get to lean on one another. And then when you play the game in the trenches, that's what matters. It's not what you do in OTAs. I thought we had really good OTA practices,
Starting point is 01:14:54 but there's limitations. The key of training camp is- Okay, so it must've been just the, why did I mark that? I think it was to hear him ask himself a question. Yeah. Was it worth it hear him ask himself a question. Yeah. Was it worth it? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:15:07 Debatable. I don't know if I just wasted 30 seconds of our time. He loves to talk about how good the boys look though. I will tell you, man. Put the antenna up for that. He's like, well, I saw him the other day. Biceps, popping. The Tim Kalashaw Show popped up.
Starting point is 01:15:23 It's always good. Yeah, Tim Kalashaw, Dallas Morning News.'s always good. Yeah Tim Kalashaw Dallas Morning News. Jerry I wanted to say first of all and I'm late on this you were great in land man and that to some extent made me look differently at you things you do. Seriously now having said that you brought up charts and Washington did go to the NFC Championship game. So this is the first time you've come to camp as the team that's been the longest in the NFC without the championship game and you see that chart in 29 years. Is that embarrassing? What do you think when you see that and think about that? I've spent a lot of those 29 years looking up,
Starting point is 01:16:04 I've spent a lot of those 29 years looking up, not looking back. I really have. This thing has had some great peaks since 1989. See, it is funny because when he references things of greatness, of course, he brings up Emmett, he'll bring up Deion. If he's going to go back, and I got to say there's been a lot of peak, because Tim Kalashow is pretty pointed there. It's the last 29 years we're focused on here. Not since 89, certainly since 89, there's been great peaks. We're talking about not getting past the first round of the NFL playoffs, which is the territory
Starting point is 01:16:46 of the Cleveland Browns. I'm trying to think because it was Washington, it was Detroit. You're talking about for the championship game? Just even being to the championship game. Right. So apparently Detroit's been there. The Raiders? No, the Raiders have been to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:17:04 They've been to the Super Bowl. They've been to the Super Bowl since. Oh, since, okay. Since the Cowboys last were in the NFC Championship game. We're not even talking about being in the Super Bowl, although it's the same year, I believe. Miami. So is that it?
Starting point is 01:17:19 The Browns and the Dolphins? And the point is, it is an embarrassing thing for your franchise, it's embarrassing for the fans. But when he's going to wax Nostalgic, we're gonna go back to 89. Another thing, I haven't heard him mention it yet in here, he may have one of the other themes in here. He's watching his documentary that's about him. Yeah. And he's references it like five or six
Starting point is 01:17:48 times throughout this hour. But that's why he's like kind of remembering. He must have just watched an Emmett episode or something. But like football, there are few and far between. And so yes, there have been some rough bumps along the way and some disappointments. Last year was one of them. I have always, though, known that you can't live off of last year or the year before. You've got to go do something and make some changes. Something's got to happen differently. something's got to happen differently. If I sat around and dwelled... I mean he talks for a long time about this. I can fast forward a bit and he's still talking about it. Very philosophical. When I first was thinking about him... Okay, so this is him talking about Shottie. Yeah. When I first was thinking about him and with Steven and with everybody involved,
Starting point is 01:18:46 I really didn't think about him being the head coach. I did think about though, about him really being involved in helping us be a better offensive football team, if in fact we were able to have some better combinations of things, personnel or what have you. So. Yeah, so the thing that is troubling about that is that it seems like he's kind of been hired to be a walk around vibes guy, even though he is calling the plays, but it's confusing, like they're talking about him like he's Cliff or Mike McDaniel or something,
Starting point is 01:19:21 or some guy who's just on a staff that you're like, no matter what, hell or high water, we've gotta have this guy involved in the offense. And in my lifetime, I have been sold a lot of false profits. Jason Garrett was one of them. Somebody sent me a Bob article from when they hired Garrett as OC, and he was thought of to be a wunderkind.
Starting point is 01:19:44 But Garrett had some buzz about him. I'm not sure I've ever heard a guy described as like, we've gotta have this guy involved in the offense, who is known for doing less ever. I don't have any idea what he calls, and neither do any of us, but they're like, hey, one thing, we gotta have shotty on the offense. I find that odd.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yes, to Garrett's credit, or Cowboy's credit at that time, the Ravens wanted to hire him as their head coach. Maybe some other team. So did the Falcons. Yeah, the Falcons, I think, at the time were sniffing around. I mean, they're- And so yes, you're right.
Starting point is 01:20:20 It was ill-placed and probably would have lasted just a couple of years if those other places lasted 10 years. I did think about though about him really being involved in helping us be a better offensive football team if in fact we were able to have some better combinations of things personnel or what-have-you. So it's not hard for me after not going to a playoff game or not going to an NFC championship game or not going to a Super Bowl. It's real hard for me to feel the pain you feel last year and feel the elation and the hope. Okay, let me fast forward a little more here. How much time did I, I'm thinking about that because I just watched an episode on that going back that far. But I'm not doing that to
Starting point is 01:21:06 get over there and live in the past. If anything, everybody in this room should know that I've got to live more in today than I've ever had to because that old time's running out. And that's just the fact, that's just what it is. We have been talking about this for at least a decade. Yeah. That Jerry's, I mean, a decade ago, it was he's 70 something years old and he's not gonna live forever. He started saying it after- He's probably gonna throw it all against the wall here.
Starting point is 01:21:32 After Romo, he really started, like he was hanging out with Dak and Zeke and he was like, I think I'm dying. These guys are much younger than I'm used to. And that's why I think it's fair game when you're analyzing the moves the front office makes to include his own mortality because he does. I think that's like a legitimate thing on their planning. Yeah and I don't think, I think as far as breaking the bank for a Belichick or just whoever he does want to show that
Starting point is 01:21:58 he's, he doesn't want to show that at the very end I had to hire Parcells again to get us back to competing interests is real of course he wanted that documentary to be the year that It proved it all right that it finally that's when they were filming the documentary the Green Bay loss, correct? Yeah, the Green Bay playoff loss, which I might have to be more specific on that as well. Here is Ouch Okay, I think we get us, which I might have to be more specific on that as well. Here is... Ouch. Okay, I think we get past the Kalashaw. The Kalashaw answer was like 10 minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:34 And we go now to some classic Donnie. Anything quirky like the basketball stuff that you're planning on to try and keep competitiveness going through the meetings or anything you're planning on to try and keep competitiveness going through the meetings or anything you're willing to share. This is to Shottie. Any kind of like you said, you do garbage can basketball in the meetings with wadded up paper. So because that's going to help this team.
Starting point is 01:22:58 They really need to come together. Get to where they want to go. Yeah, always. I'm not going to share it with you guys because the players don't know what it is yet, but there'll be multiple sporting competitions that we'll be doing. Like this is what he's thinking about at night as he's falling asleep. Jerry's like, I've got to make sure this guy's involved
Starting point is 01:23:15 in the offense. What if we build paper airplanes? Don't put it past him. What, you know what? What if I just go rock, paper, scissors? Let's just do a classic old. I'm gonna come out of camp and the highlight is gonna be that you saw Donovan Wilson make a package for an egg
Starting point is 01:23:33 that he dropped off the top of the hotel. What about Jacks? It didn't crack. Let's bring back Jacks. Let's do pick up sticks. That's something my mom said she knew what it was. I don't know what it is. Let's go now.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Dude, they're gonna go to the beach too, and it's gonna be great. There's gonna be a beach day, just like when Joseph Randall jumped into six inches of water and Garrett was like. Dude, what about nice surfing? I wouldn't be surprised. Shoddy definitely seems like the type of guy
Starting point is 01:24:00 that's like, I could pop up. Yeah. You know. I don't know what this is. A guy like Demo. Oh, okay, that's, I don't know what this is. A guy like Demo, I mean. Oh, okay, that's why I brought, I just, I think I just put that in there because he says that DeMarvian overshown his Demo.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Interesting. It's Deucey time. I think this is Deucey time. Let's see here. And again, repeat that. I think I know what you said. Repeat it. Has stepping away as general manager ever been even a momentary consideration for you for the years? Yes. Momentary. How long a moment? No Now we're getting down to it. Small fractions of seconds. I promise you that. Good Stephen laugh. Why did you talk yourself off that ledge? Well, I didn't have any trouble talking it off because those were obviously painful moments when
Starting point is 01:24:59 I would be thinking like that. And I just, that's not why I'm here that's not what from my part that's not what it's been about. Okay we get it he's not gonna keep asking keep asking yes I think it's interesting from Ducey standpoint to get him to talk about it just because him giving that quote of you know know, occasionally. Oh yeah, yeah. You got to ask every year. Ducey might have been asking that question every year for 20 years. That'd be good. That'd be a nice montage to put together.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Yeah. No, I'm just thrilled, man. I think why the people I get to do this with day in and day out, Steven and Jerry, the entire Jones family, you know, you You take these couple weeks off, right? And everybody kind of goes all over the map. And then you're about a week or two away, you start realizing like, man, I really miss the guys. I miss CD.
Starting point is 01:25:55 I miss seeing Sanborn. I miss seeing those guys. And then you start shooting them texts. And then you work yourself into a frenzy, the excitement and the... Just, I like to picture Belichick saying these exact same things. This is my game. You know what, I just, ah man, I missed old Gronk. Just started texting him up.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Just saying how you are, bud. Sup, bro? How's the summer? Do you need anything? Yeah. Man, I can't wait to get started. So, again, just thrilled to get started. It's going to be an awesome camp.
Starting point is 01:26:26 We feel great about where we're at. And truly seeing these guys makes me feel like the luckiest man in the world that I get to lead those young men. You are, dude. OK, he's going to ask himself some questions here, I think. You know, and just in terms of this opportunity, do I think I deserve it? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Do I think I'm ready? There's no question. And it can't get here soon enough. I guess it's... Okay. This just tickled me. So they're talking more land man, I think. Just the way Jerry says a famous person's name and I've never heard it with this inflection. It was a
Starting point is 01:27:16 great pleasure to work with those guys that were there and one of them Billy Bob had done. Excuse me. From the makers of Boono. Billy Bob. Billy Bob. Billy Bob, like he's awesome, man. You know what's funny about him is in some ways he reminds me of my dad because there's a lot of things that my dad says incorrectly and just no one corrects him. And I don't know, you know, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:27:45 whatever, he just says, he pronounces that name Ryan Tannehill. And actually I've said it, but it doesn't matter. He just pronounces it the way he does. So he knows Billy Bob. Billy Bob, but at the beginning of that answer, he said he was standing there and that guy was in the bed. Yeah, that guy was John Hamm.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Not just some spare guy, it's like a pretty prominent actor. That guy laying in the bed. A belly bob. You've got a huge, you got a dynamic going on. You've got 10%, 10, 12% of you people making two thirds of the money. Ah, yes. Back to this. And so it's incumbent upon that group right there to walk and lead.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Walk and lead. And it covers a lot of ground, what that is, to make that work. And this is all a part of it to make it happen. But that's nothing new. I've talked to people all over the league, and that's what you've got. You've certainly got players that are going to make more money than other players make.
Starting point is 01:28:59 But they've got to wear it. Calvin. Wait, let me go. I think I skipped one. I meant to mark this. This is him talking. I think it might be Shadi talking Micah. I knew where it was this weekend and he was coming in and again this time of year is a dead period so you can't talk football which we don't. You know you guys know me I'm a big connection guy. He loves this time of year. Yeah. Wait the NFLPA mandates I'm not allowed to talk football?
Starting point is 01:29:29 Perfect. Yeah. Absolutely perfect and you know that Micah sees that name on his phone is like. Absolutely. All right I'm gonna answer it. He sees the text from Brian Schottenheimer like it's just this this won't help me with my contract negotiations. Whatever I'm doing here.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Saa dude, saa, saa Micah. Yeah. Hey, what's up coach? No, no, cool man. Yeah, I remember the saa thing. You know, Shottie brings up the good night call every time they talk. Hey, you recording me?
Starting point is 01:29:59 Yeah. Hey, good night to you too, brother. Okay, so he does the saa dude, like he's beaten by the saw dude. Yeah, that's a good dude. But Shottie has been this guy, like he will get any trend. So do you think he's ever called him
Starting point is 01:30:13 and been like, dilly dilly? What? Mike, I want that. And then Mike is like, what? What the? That one might have been before your time, brother. Yeah, bro. Does Shottie have a chappie-like voicemail?
Starting point is 01:30:27 Hello? Hello. Yeah. Oh, this is Shottie's voicemail. Gotcha. I got you, buddy. I might be out doing a Shottie right now. Can't talk football, which we don't.
Starting point is 01:30:37 You guys know me. I'm a big connection guy. I'm a big culture guy. So it's more just checking in, telling guys I miss them. What are you up to? What do you need? Let me know if you need anything and It's been no different. I'm not surprised he's here. I know what he's all about
Starting point is 01:30:52 I know he's about winning. I know he's about being great And I would say my communication with him is no different than it was in the beginning I think see that's what bothers Jerry because it bothers me too like not surprised. He's here He's under contract! He is under contract. Why are we like, oh my gosh, it's so cool that Mike is here. Again, we're having the conversation about, you're taking both sides of it right here too.
Starting point is 01:31:18 It is the game. Yeah, yeah. So again, he's pissed off, because it's not really fair. They have showed other players, through their actions with other players, they have shown their current players, how do we play this game? If you're one of the best players,
Starting point is 01:31:34 you're going to have to hold the gun to our head a little bit because we're not going to pay you as the best player until we have to. And then we will. And of course. We will absolutely pay the most. And then once we do, we're going to bring it up in every press conference that we have to, and then we will. And of course. We will absolutely pay the most. And then once we do, we're gonna bring it up in every press conference that we have.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Anytime somebody asks about you, anytime your performance isn't the best in the entire NFL, I will just mention that you're the highest paid player in the NFL. That's the part that drives me absolutely crazy. And I think it's the part that has tangible effects in the locker room. Like I used to hate when Sean Lee would get hurt because you knew Jerry was gonna say some dumb shit about like I don't know if he wants to
Starting point is 01:32:12 be if he wants it bad enough it's a pain thing he'll be out there. Okay we just got a couple more cuts here. Any frustration because you talked about leadership that kind of thing and it's in its contract but any frustration that hey we had to take money away from digiggs because he's not showing up, working out at the facility the way you want him to? No, he didn't earn it. He didn't come. That's in his contract that he doesn't get that unless he's going to be here.
Starting point is 01:32:38 And think about it a minute. Do you have to go to work and show up and All that kind of stuff? Of course you do. We all do. And bottom line is that those are contractual things, as Steven said, and it would be very detrimental to the team not to abide by the agreement. Oh, I love that. I didn't want to take the money from him. It would be bad for the rest of the team. Yeah, but what an example set. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:11 So it's hands are tied on this one. Sorry about that. I didn't mean it. Let's see here. Jump ahead. We got, there's a couple of really pieces of gold. We told Jake not to listen. Yeah, I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Tell that to the people. couple of really pieces of gold. We told Jake not to listen. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm excited. Tell that to the people. Oh, okay. So we're doing bits like Gordo. I don't know why Gordo did this. Gordon Keith from the ticket does fake Jerry for the very few that don't know that. Most people do. Does a character fake Jerry on the ticket. And when we had Jerry on just a couple years ago, we talked to him about that. And in fact, we had Gordon call in as fake Jerry and talk to real Jerry and it was a good bit. And he's very aware. We've known for 20 years that
Starting point is 01:33:59 he's very aware, they're very aware around the cowboy. But Gordon asked him if he's aware of fake Jerry. So I guess to put it in front of the national media, but Gordon asked him if he's aware of fake Jerry. So I guess to put it in front of the national media, I don't know why. But then they got to, he asked him about his, you know, his name or likeness being used in a cartoon, all this kind of stuff. So we're just doing, we're kind of doing a lot of bits, okay? And there's one guy in Cowboys media that has been the guy to bring it back to football over the many, many years.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Every year that I've ever been to camp, this guy is there with increasingly longer shorts. He wears these big giant jean shorts. Anyway, so they're just kind of talking about bits. And I like to envision Brad Shams inside his brain. It's just steaming. He is not happy. There may be an Arthur fist. Arthur fist is perfect.
Starting point is 01:34:55 So, Brian, you mentioned it's all football, Brad. That's what I'm trying. Okay, wait. So it's been too good. I promise you that says petty stuff. It's been too good promise you that says petty stuff It's been too good
Starting point is 01:35:10 Brad Brad sham Cowboys radio one oh five three the fan I'm not sure it's even appropriate to ask a football question anymore. Oh go fuck yourself Good Lord Dude, what are we doing? We just talked about land man for 10 minutes and we're tying it all together. Jake, he doesn't know who the starting running back is gonna be. Look, I didn't hear the whole question,
Starting point is 01:35:31 but it's jarring. We got 50 minutes, guess what? One hour press conference. I'll be here tomorrow and the next day. Catch me on the field. There's plenty of time. We're gonna be doing football for a month. Oh, I don't know if this is even allowed.
Starting point is 01:35:44 I mean, this is the fun of the opening press conference good because yes every press conference Well, almost everyone actually know what you guys shut up shut up. I am clearly the biggest football fan here I'm the biggest Cowboys fan here and you know what you're right. I got a football boner. I'm rock hard Let's see this Groundbreaking gridiron question from Brad Sham to give me a full football release. Here we go! Brad. Brad Sham Cowboys Radio 105.3 The Fan. I'm not sure it's even appropriate to ask a football question.
Starting point is 01:36:16 No, no, no, no. Brian, you mentioned the fan. It's all football, Brad. That's what I'm trying to say. Who gets it? It always has been. We just introduced it more like that when we got here. Tell that to the people watching the Cartoon Network. Okay. Gordo had asked him about the cartoon. Yeah, did they approach you to voice the cartoon
Starting point is 01:36:37 or something? Now again, I'm at a point in my life where I get very frustrated when somebody says something and the response to it has nothing to do with the question. So explain to me what tell that to the folks at Cartoon Network means. Because what Jerry said was a sensible thing, hey I'm a businessman, I'm a communicator, let me explain this to you. I feel like you probably know it, but since apparently you don't, what is, explain that to the people at... Jerry on Land man is good for the team. It's good for the team and it also gets him talking about his life philosophy which is if
Starting point is 01:37:09 you're gonna cover the team very important. Because the brand has turned into the owners on Cartoon Network. This is not about a football team anymore. So he's just pissed about that and he's just gonna... Yeah, Jerry's on Cartoon Network. Not only is he on it now he's being asked about it during the time for football, but hold on. What do we got? Tell that to the people watching the Cartoon Network, but uh... Brian, you mentioned Sanborn. Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Jack Sanborn? Nice player! Undrafted free agent, started a handful of games in Chicago, and this is what we gotta get it back to? This guy's gonna play special teams maybe? What are we doing? That's what we're about to find out. At least make it about Micah or Dak or the offensive liners.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Jack Sanborn. Talk about the fringe 50-50 players here, bud. This guy might not make the team. Come on, man. You gotta, nah. Well, hear him out. What was the question? Short list of new veterans who you are expecting to be significant
Starting point is 01:38:17 who maybe people are not talking about. Oh boy, Kyair Elam. Let me tell you something. Well, let's see, what does Shottie think of that? Good question. Of course. Of course. Good question.
Starting point is 01:38:29 It's a great question. Jack Sanborn. Let's hear him end the thing. Couldn't be more excited about the roster of players and young men that we've accumulated. Patrick. Okay, now. This-
Starting point is 01:38:43 Now the protege. Yeah, we do have a protege we have to we have determined this guy is the heir to the Brad sham throne because like Jerry it's getting up there in years there might not be a guy to bring it back to football if we don't have what is this guy Patrick Walker he's a good writer good animal boys calm yeah he used to be outside of Cowboys.com and I liked his stuff then. So I just want to be clear,
Starting point is 01:39:08 I think the guy's got something, but this is a bit that has grown annoying. Patrick. I want to thank Brad for this, Ali, you position question for coach. Shadi, you. So yes, he did that previously in this thing too. He's like, let me bring this back to football,
Starting point is 01:39:24 because they were talking about something. That's exactly what he said. Yeah. It was, I think they were talking too much contract stuff. He wanted to talk about the players on the field. Yeah, and so he's gonna set up for that. Yeah. I love it.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I think Brad, for this alley-oop, because this is a question for coach Shottie, you'd have to go back, I mean, you can go back 14, 15 years or so, and it's a rare occurrence. Can we not? Okay. Can we not? Okay. Can we not?
Starting point is 01:39:46 You don't wanna hear this question? Dude. But the alley-oop, like first of all, this is just to further delineate, I'm not here for this bullshit you guys are talking about, right? So and probably I wouldn't have been able to ask this question, this very basic football question,
Starting point is 01:40:00 without that incredible setup. Oh my gosh. From Brad Shim. Are you Stockton? I'm alone. Which one is which? Because clearly we're both on the same wavelength here and we just want to talk about the guards okay and the the third mic. I love it man. It's a lot of fun. So we're back yeah and I'm back in the mode of listening to Shoddy. I'm going to enjoy that. They probably have one going down today. Yeah yeah it's happening right now. So we'll be able to listen every day and we're not gonna play it every day. We'll
Starting point is 01:40:39 probably pull it up. We're not gonna give it this treatment. Will this is about to- Will we listen to it every day? We will. We will. Will we play the whole thing? I doubt it. Would we if the situation called for it, we're able to. Time for a break? Maybe not. Give me time to find the- The Jones Show.
Starting point is 01:41:04 ["The Jones Show Theme Song"] The Dumb Zone. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. Blame Steve Noviello. I saw him when I was walking out to my car. Hot? Oh, he's extremely hot. And, you know, then he just did a cursory, hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 01:41:28 And then it was a, hey, I really like the stuff that you're doing. And I'm like, where, where, what? What stuff? He's like, oh, no, it seems like you guys got events going on. And things are, so he's looking at our Instagram, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Is that what's going on? Yeah. Because he doesn't listen. Does he? Is that homophobic? What's that? No puppet! He has told us that before. That a guy's on the Gram?
Starting point is 01:41:50 Well, I would just, you just immediately jumped to one social media platform. That's what I said to him. You're on it, and he nodded and said, yeah, that's it. Okay. That's how I know what you're doing. Because he has sent me DMs on Instagram before. Ah.
Starting point is 01:42:06 And I don't see him for like a week, because they'll check in. That's usually what happens to me. And then I don't know what's going on with, you know what, let's not do this. I just don't know how Instagram works. It feels like all the messages I get, I click it, and it's like, this was three weeks ago,
Starting point is 01:42:19 and it's disappeared. Yeah. I also don't understand Instagram. It's fine. It's fine, but it's fine. It's not that hard. That's why I don't wanna expose us. Real quick, there was a piece of Jerry audio you played that made me think of something else.
Starting point is 01:42:35 So I think this'll work. Okay. Okay, here, we'll back it up. He's talking contrast. Well, first of all, we've always felt like it wouldn't, it's not productive to talk about any details about what's holding what up. The other thing I would say is contracts are four or five years.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Okay. Uh, there's a lot of water under the bridge. If you step out there and do something in the first two or three, you can get hit by a car seriously. Okay. So to me, I want to know, is that an old man thing to say? Because I immediately thought of Tommy Lasorda.
Starting point is 01:43:10 I've been a friend of that guy's for 30 years. Talk to Donald Sterling and V. Stiviano. A lot of high talk going around. What is your side? Well, it doesn't surprise me that he said those things. That doesn't surprise me. And he shouldn't have said it. And he just hurt himself That doesn't surprise me and he shouldn't have said it and
Starting point is 01:43:27 He just hurt himself By by by talking too much and doing things that he couldn't it shouldn't be doing And not that I don't wish that girl any bad luck, but I hope she gets hit with a car I Can't remember the last time I said that I Can't remember the last time I said that Hit by a car I hope they get hit by a car just seems like an old man now I have two voices hit by a car. They're both old guys What's going on on Twitter? Oh, so we're doing here
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Starting point is 01:45:54 Wow. So, fears quelled at Game Payment's health, who bring you today in Twitter. So, something that was really popping over the weekend, the NBA of the W version had their, I believe, bi-monthly All-Star game, which was right after their draft. And last year was a cool deal because it was, in preparation for the Olympics,
Starting point is 01:46:23 they did a WNBA versus Team USA thing. That was kinda cool. Drew massive, massive record ratings last year. This year, it was down quite a bit from last year, but still way high relative to what they were before. Two years ago, yeah. Yeah. So the news story coming out of this
Starting point is 01:46:45 was the players taking the floor, the All Stars wearing shirts that said, pay us what you owe us. And they wore them during warmups, they wore them during post game, and they had them on at the podium after the game. And Kelsey Plum, I don't know that she's the LeBron, but I think of her like the elder statesman,
Starting point is 01:47:09 also kind of petty and self-absorbed like LeBron. So she's up there and she's up there with another all-star teammate, Sabrina Ionesco, I think is her name. Actually, she was not her teammate. She was on team Caitlin Clark, and that's gonna come up here when they're asked about the decision to wear the shirts, to WNBA All-Stars here. Kelce's, member of the Executive Council, where did the idea for the shirts come from?
Starting point is 01:47:39 I'm sorry, who? Kelce. Kelce's, member of the Executive Council, where did the idea for the shirts come from tonight and how? Important you think they were with the end the fans behind you at the end of the game chanting and such That was a very powerful moment. Um, we didn't at least as players. We didn't know that that was gonna happen So I think it was kind of like a genuine surprise, but the t-shirt She's saying the genuine surprise was that the fans reacted to them, which feels a little bit like,
Starting point is 01:48:07 oh, I won homecoming queen. Oh, me? Little old me? Yeah. I think it was kind of like a genuine surprise, but the t-shirt just United front was determined this morning that we had a meeting for. And not to tattle-tale,
Starting point is 01:48:25 but zero members of Team Clark were very present for that. But no, we had a very- That really needed to be mentioned. I'm trying to make a situation light. No, I think it was just all of us getting on the same page for the game. So they were all pissed that the Team Clark players weren't there? Is that what she's insinuating here? I'm trying to keep this light.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Sure. Yeah, well I think she's saying that it mattered more to the players on Team Collier. Who? The other team. I'll put it to you like that. What is it? The top vote vote getters get the team?
Starting point is 01:49:07 Probably. Okay. Yeah, so our Paige Beckers was on, Team Collier, Kelsey Plum, you just heard there saying that, Angel Reese, Team Collier, and then the other team, which had Caitlin Clark on it, she didn't play, had Kelsey Mitchell, Asia Wilson, and Sabrina Ionesca
Starting point is 01:49:30 who was sitting there with her. So what I find, I'm not a big fan of, here I kind of live by this phrase, Dan, knuck if you buck. And what that means is, if you want to stand there and call somebody out, then just stand on it. Stand on business as they say. It's not making it light.
Starting point is 01:49:51 You're trying to say that you think the people that didn't attend the meeting don't give a fuck as much as you do. That's the message. So why not just stand by it rather than, ah, I'm just trying to make it light. You're not. You're trying to talk shit.
Starting point is 01:50:04 And I just hate the fact that at least the images that the entire WNBA hates Caitlin Clark and they don't realize the only reason anyone is watching any of this garbage is Caitlin Clark. It's been the same product for 20 years. Nothing happened. In fact, what was it? I disagree with that, but I feel like I can have both of these positions. I mean, I feel like I can watch a game, and I do, and Caitlin Clark does stand out, and it's really cool to watch, but generally, you're watching something and it's not that entertaining at all.
Starting point is 01:50:50 So I think there's a lot of, it's just weird that they're playing on the men's rims, that height, and I know it's some kind of a, we don't wanna do that because that would show that it's different if they were to lower the rims that height and I know it's some kind of a we don't want to do that because that would show that it's different if they were to lower the rim but they need to lower the rim they they just don't play basketball the way basketball we see it played and if you can't play in that fashion the only thing that's going to be exciting is somebody that can just bomb them like Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 01:51:28 No, that's a good point. She's very much, but that also works for Steph because it's a relatable game. And to me, there are really two separate conversations happening here. One, I think the quality of play in the WNBA has gotten way, way better. But I think the quality of play in every sport has gotten way, way better, but I think the quality of play in every sport
Starting point is 01:51:47 has gotten way, way better. So while the NBA I think is better, I think it's the best it's ever been from a quality of play standpoint, I think the WNBA is the same. So is the WNBA like, is it over the threshold of entertaining enough now? Or is it only compared to, is it over the threshold of entertaining enough now?
Starting point is 01:52:05 Or is it only compared to, is it as entertaining as the men's game? And it's definitely not. You mean it's flat out worse athletes playing the same game. But, most like college kids can't, or like let's say high school kids, or there's college players can't just dunk at will, you can have an exciting
Starting point is 01:52:25 version of basketball to me if it's played well that doesn't have rem presence. And I think they've got that down. I actually think it is an appealing game now visually. But I- Something else you said in there, click something. I also just want to say it's very clear that it is not just perceived. The players have made enough comments. They have some begrudging views against her and I think that's natural in any system you see in life. If there are people that feel that they're the reason why something was able to hold on long enough for it to eventually be known as mainstream, the people that were already there, 99 out
Starting point is 01:53:06 of 100 times are going to be bitter about it. And that probably doesn't help when they're extremely competitive women. It just seems that they're... My perception is they talk more shit, and that's coming to the floor with Kate and Clark, or the forefront, but. Which quite frankly is probably really good for the league. Just because. Kind of all of this is. It keeps them in the conversation.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Otherwise, what if everybody just welcomed her and that was it. Feeded her and like, yeah, there's no trash talking. There's no, this, you're right. This is the way it is. This makes for something, you know, and the Angel Reese versus Caitlin Clark thing, Angel Reese also being hot, you're right, this is the way it is. This makes for something, you know, and the Angel Reese versus Caitlin Clark thing, Angel Reese also being hot, also being black,
Starting point is 01:53:49 it all feeds into everything, I think, very nicely. It's a nice moment, but it wouldn't be a, like if there was no Caitlin Clark on the planet, there isn't this buzz because Angel Reese has now made it and it would have still been on that steady, if it was on a climb, it'd be a steady slow climb. But all of a sudden it kind of jumped up 10 levels. And even when they were talking to the three point winner, she was talking just about the
Starting point is 01:54:19 crowd and she couldn't believe it. And you know what, let me just play her first thing. Sabrina how does it just feel to win another three-point contest be the I think you're only the second player to eclipse 30 well first player to go back and back and hit 30 points but just like you know how does it feel? You're swerving. Yeah it's amazing I mean I haven't done this in a little while so to be able to be back in you know a shootout is always fun especially with such great elite shooters like you got to be able to especially in that first round put on a good enough performance to advance and same in the second round so just happy
Starting point is 01:54:59 honored you know I think it was exciting and hope the crowd had fun like I think from the skills all the way to the three point, it was just a great show. And the last time I did the three point shootout in Vegas, like there wasn't, it wasn't, it didn't feel like sold out. Like now to be able to see how much, you know, the W has evolved even from two years for fans to be able to be a part of this weekend. And that includes everything, you know, from the skills challenge to the three point to the game so it's a blessing to be here. Yeah here's how the W has evolved is because Kaitlyn Clark joined the W. You gotta understand
Starting point is 01:55:33 this. Now listen. I'm trying to do my best to make as many as I can. What did the other woman, what did somebody call her? Kelce? Kelce. Should we bring in the next question? Front row center?
Starting point is 01:55:43 Hey Sab. Sab! Hey Sab. Kelce. Should we bring in the next question, front row center? Hey, Sab. Sab! Hey, Sab. Hey, Sab. Can't say that I've ever heard that. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, it got people really fired up and it became a big Twitter thing, the what if you work for your employer, you know, loses money every year but you want to raise?
Starting point is 01:56:09 And that was the big... That's why we're putting this in today in Twitter, I think, because that kind of went viral, the peeps that you played. Yeah, and then there are a lot of people who obviously dunk on, make memes. I saw a funny one that was like, the WNBA has a very funny opportunity to be like, bet, you owe us each $231,000. Yeah. We're gonna write our losses over to you here. But the economics of the league are such, and I was telling Dan this this morning,
Starting point is 01:56:39 that it's confusing to me when I look at Portnoy and how involved he is in this stuff, because I think he's obviously a guy who is able to look at business and identify opportunities for growth and revenue and he's super fired up about the WNBA. He's super fired up as a fan about Caitlin Clark. And I listened to him talk at length yesterday
Starting point is 01:56:59 and breaking down, yeah, the players are getting screwed. Like their percentage of revenue that goes to player salaries is minuscule compared to the 48 to 52 that the men get. I saw nine. Yeah, that's old contracts. It's 9%. So he's saying like, it's not these players' fault the league is losing money.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Sometimes your company can be losing money because you're set up like shit. And the players are not the reason for that. But with Portnoy, I look at it and I'm like, is he only doing this because he's trying to gas up the value of this league so that when he's eventually allowed to buy in, he is an ultimate marketer salesman. But I do think enough smart people said yesterday, hey, I know how this looks. I know the perception of WNBA players,
Starting point is 01:57:46 they're actually kind of right, they're getting screwed. So I think you can both agree. Perhaps, but when they start talking about, hey, LeBron makes 50 million and we're only making this. Messaging problem, you should not, that's the thing, is that I felt like this, the women's national team ran into this a little bit in soccer, but I mean, they could actually make the case,
Starting point is 01:58:06 I think, for revenue generation, but quality is not the same thing as fairness, right? Yeah, and you know, who's going for certain players? That's the thing. You mean like attendance and? Yeah. Yeah. And obviously, Caitlin Clark's the thing. You mean like attendance and yeah. Yeah. And obviously Caitlin Clark is the draw. She's the only player that they would have to actually move locations to go seat more people, which they do. Yeah. In fact, that's the
Starting point is 01:58:39 Washington franchise, right? That's the lady that last year said, how come the entire league can't be a sportsman of the year? It has to be just Caitlin Clark when her franchise had to move locations a couple of times so they could sell 20,000 seats instead of two. Yeah. You'd think it done on her. Anyway, it's interesting as it does become mainstream, it's going to bring more eyeballs to it and it's going to elicit a lot more negativity towards it. If these women want to learn what it's really like to be an NBA player. Because there's a lot of cosplay, there's a lot of dress up, there's a lot of, oh, we get to have the finest facilities and chartered flights and this and that that they're getting now.
Starting point is 01:59:37 But I just feel like once something gets more popular, then it also gets more criticism. And I don't think that they have the skin for that. Well, yeah, they're not handling it well. Whether it be autograph seekers at their hotel. I saw a video, I didn't want to play it on the show, but there was a few of the all-stars that wanted to go clubbing that night. The stud buds.
Starting point is 02:00:01 And they just showed up at the club and they were flabbergasted when they were not let in. Well, we're playing the W and the bouncer's like, okay. And so they just think that now that they've graduated to this new level of fame, they get to play both sides where no, you can't ask me for my autograph. Yes, I want special treatment. Yes, I want more money.
Starting point is 02:00:19 That's what's hard about it is I'm trying to be a good, faithful, progressive man and I'm like, how do I, obviously there are going to be things that I think women, female athletes are going to interface with that will be difficult for them that male athletes are used to. The hate just is what it is and I don't know. Maybe I've only heard of a few isolated incidents and
Starting point is 02:00:46 I'm making those representative of the whole but it's not a great look when right when a league gets popular the players immediately go on some hey shouldn't we look at the way we're talking to athletes online like dude do you understand what life is like it for I don't know Dorian Finney fucking Smith? Don't make it LeBron, make it a guy who blows somebody's parlay over under three three-pointers made in the game tonight.
Starting point is 02:01:14 And you've seen what happens to him. Or running back, falling short of the goal line so his team can win. Really Dan, the funny thing is, is that's when the heat started, is when people started gambling on the WNBA. That's when you know you've made it. Like what is she on her period? A couple more rounds. Anyways there you go. So that's today in Twitter do we even want to mention or do you want to do it more tomorrow, the whole Coldplay memes and stuff?
Starting point is 02:01:48 Let's do it now. Right now? Or at least a little bit of it, yeah. Just do that. In the news, in the news. Oh, in the news. So that's today in Twitter. Yep. So the news, it's gonna be brought to us
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Starting point is 02:02:50 but not all of both. So apparently DUMBZONE is all one word there at RailroaderBaseball.com. And this is the thing, this is not in the copy. If you got a kid, take him to this thing, you gotta understand. I'll be going. Yeah, I was gonna say, this is right up Blake's alley.
Starting point is 02:03:11 You're three to eight to, I don't know how old you gotta get to where they don't really know. Dude, when we did the- You're at a ranger game, you're at a railroad game, it's all, they're just at a baseball game and they're having fun. When we did the Big 12 tournament. And you've paid a lot less money.
Starting point is 02:03:26 And concession prices are way better. Yes. So. This is for you, Dad. So check that out, don't forget the code DUMBZONE. If you're a mom game listener. Okay, we'll get there. Here's James.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Oh, they're sponsoring the news. Dumb Silk News. Oh man. All right, let's look back over Dull Self-News. Oh, man. All right, let's flip back over here to our news page. Well, you brought up the Coldplay astronomer CEO situation. So what a story. What a story indeed. This is the kind of thing that brings the Republicans and Democrats and all races.
Starting point is 02:04:07 We're all in on this one. We all can agree that this is fun. There's no, we don't have to break this one in half and only I can enjoy this. This is one of the great videos of all time. The guy clearly cheating on his wife with his HR director. Yes. It's perfect, it's the perfect story. They see themselves on the Jumbotron, she is aghast at first, puts her hands over her face and turns away.
Starting point is 02:04:37 The guy who is the CEO just falls to the ground like I'm just getting out of this shot. Ha! And this makes it all, I'm just getting out of this shot. And this makes it all, I wonder had they just sat there hugging each other and not done a thing. Of course. Again, they might've been busted in their town. Yeah, and it might've come off as a-
Starting point is 02:04:58 Somebody there might've known somebody, maybe. Maybe. But it certainly doesn't become a national, I think it's on the, my wife was asking me about it and she doesn't know anything unless it's on the Today Show. Right, honestly we need to codify that as a phenomenon. That's what it is. The Today Show, once it's jumped the rail, now it's real.
Starting point is 02:05:19 We need a word for that because that's what it is. That's where Epstein is now. I used to say this all the time. Mainstream, I guess. Mainstream, but it already feels mainstream to us, because it's just on social media, we assume it is. But my thing is always when the handsome guy on ABC at 5 o'clock, David Meir, talks about it,
Starting point is 02:05:40 that's when I know it's real. No, you're right. When my grandpa can see it in the nursing home, now it's real. There is a feeling or a connection when you've known about something for months and then your wife finally asks you. I can't-
Starting point is 02:05:51 Oh, Luca got traded? Yes. That was months ago. So, there was a statement from the CEO going around that I really wanted to be real, and at varying times over the weekend, thought was real, but I think it's fake.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Because he was apologizing, but also kind of questioning whether it's really right to have a private moment like that at a concert, broadcasts for all to see. And it was fake. Which bummed me out, because I do feel like there's possibly a conversation to be had there? I mean, I know you signed it, it's on the ticket.
Starting point is 02:06:30 You're in a public place. I know. It just... I don't know. It feels like, with the phone, it's different. It feels like we're in a different place now than when those rules were established. But, I don't know, just if you're gonna do that, don't do it at a Coldplay concert. For her part, the woman has not been fired.
Starting point is 02:06:53 She's on leave. And I read, the Post had an article today about this with a few different legal experts. It's clear that she can't really go back and be the head of HR. They're gonna need to, like, at a minimum reassign her. But. And not just there, anywhere. Right, yeah, it probably needs a new line,
Starting point is 02:07:17 new field, new focus. With some experts saying that, you know, it's not gonna be easy to fire her. There's probably some exit package being negotiated here. So honestly, she may end up in great shape. She was also married. The ladies I was with over the weekend were very excited about the fake statement
Starting point is 02:07:44 that the wife put out. The wife, younger, nice piece. And there was some very petty statement that of course was fake. But the 39 year olds in my midst were like, you go girl, fuck him. Oh, the wife of the CEO? Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:59 But it was fake? Yeah. Have you seen the- Calling him out on everything. So the Phillies did it first, I think. It's amazing how quick this spread. So the Phillies did a mock, they did a kiss cam. Like that night.
Starting point is 02:08:14 That night, and it went, you know, they just did normal couple, normal couple, normal couple, and then it was the Philly Fanatic, and apparently they have a lady Philly Fanatic now. Okay. Yeah, let me tell you something. The quality. They copied Mrs. Beck. They did the exact same thing. He was hugging her and they pretended they were aghast.
Starting point is 02:08:31 The guy fell. The girl put her hand over her face. The lady Philly Fanatic. And yeah, and then now they have like at games they'll have, it'll be called Coldplay Kiss Cam. like at games they'll have it'll be called the Coldplay kiss cam and then people's bit is to pretend that they're that couple and yes it's just caught fire this will be the you'll remember this week because something else will happen pretty soon and we'll forget but things like this don't happen just every
Starting point is 02:09:02 week just the whole nation together on... We can all agree, this is awesome. It's a good one. So I'm happy, yes. I actually can... And how fast did it get to the Today Show or to that level you're saying that it gets to? Because my wife, like you said, generally a month later would be like,
Starting point is 02:09:23 oh, wait, Luke is not, something happened? I think you had all the right ingredients, you know, you had a scorned woman, a bad man, Coldplay, this is all shit that women love, so you know, really, it kind of feels like it was engineered. I wonder how their concerts are dealing with it. Well, I thought it was weird too, because I think Chris Martin's cheated, I think he cheated a few times, right? So I saw our buddy Sam from Quaker City was like, he's definitely had a conversation with a PR person
Starting point is 02:09:54 on how to handle this. And again, was that a kiss cam at Coldplay, or was it just the cameras somehow panning across the crowd? I think it was just the cameras panning. That's what it looked like. Did you see what they cut to right after? What? Two guys in banana suits.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Oh, you know what? That's right. Yeah. The director was like, cut to the bananas. A little levity here. My favorite meme that I saw for this, because immediately people are putting faces on them and whatnot.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Oh, yeah. My favorite Jake was somebody put Jim McElwain in a shark head. The former Florida football coach who despite his vehement denials was photographed naked on a boat with a shark. I saw Oasis, because Oasis is playing shows. There's a world where Dan fell for, hard for Oasis, but it's not this one.
Starting point is 02:10:51 Just the timelines do match up. But he, you know, the Gallagers are prone to talk a lot of trash about each other and everybody, and he, on camera, or excuse me, on stage, is like, do we have any love, I'm not gonna do the voice, do we have any lovebirds in the house? prone to talk a lot of trash about each other and everybody and he, on camera, or excuse me, on stage was like, do we have any love, I'm not gonna do the voice, do we have any lovebirds in the house, don't worry, we ain't got any of that
Starting point is 02:11:11 Coldplay snidey fucking camera shit. It doesn't matter who you're f-ing mingling with or tingling with or f-ing with, but this one's for the lovebirds. That's funny. So everybody're playing off of it. I've always thought with the oasis Feud and a breakup and the thought was all about others No, I've always thought are they at a high enough level That we should all
Starting point is 02:11:38 Acting like we care about this over there You think oasis over there? You go over there. think oasis over there you go over there they're the Beatles basically of the more of modern times okay cuz I like really okay you broke okay so what stay apart I was a big fan which doesn't you Reese's gonna they're gonna hold out and not play anymore fine see what happens the national there will be a giant tumbleweed bopping across the United States when the WNBA goes on strike okay well nobody gonna be like
Starting point is 02:12:11 this has really changed my life I'm not arguing with that but I will tell you that when they got together well when they decided they were gonna play shows they sold everything out across America and across the UK at their will. And I won't go because- And had they not broken up and gone through this for 20 years, they probably wouldn't have because they would have just faded away. I'm just guessing. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:12:37 I don't care. I also don't care. I know, but I'm with you. They're not thought of like the Rolling Stones or what, but I'm telling you for the certain type of Anglophile, which despite the fact that I'm an Anglophobe, I did like Oasis, that's the biggest band in the world to them. And you know, they were all cool and on drugs
Starting point is 02:12:59 and that makes it cooler, they hated each other. Drugs are great. The favorite one I had, back to the meme and putting faces on it or whatever, I sent it to Brian Curtis. In fact our buddy Kirk Henderson put this one out. The guy who's holding the lady, so he's behind her, Rob Palenka the lady is Niko Harrison. It's very good.
Starting point is 02:13:28 That's my favorite one that I saw. It's really good. In fact though, cause I was thinking what can we do for our show? I know that's your big bit. You wanna get right on Twitter, Instagram, do something. It's not what brands are supposed to do.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Yeah. And there is, you could just search right now, you could search Coldplay meme generator, it'll make one for you. Oh, okay. You could just put in the photos. So. I feel like that's below Blake.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Blake will create it himself. Yeah. Yesterday in Louisville, there was a house fire. Around 12, 30 in the afternoon. The reason that this is newsworthy is because they believe that the fire, the electrical fire started with a Tesla car charger. That's not good. Yeah. The homeowner said when she came home to plug in her Tesla, she noticed electrical arcing from the charger unit.
Starting point is 02:14:31 So I don't know. Yeah, what does that mean? Honestly, it's not that different from what you think it is. That's when electricity jumps between two connection points in the air. So she just clocked that right away, I guess. She told firefighters the charging unit caught on fire,
Starting point is 02:14:51 at which point she removed the Tesla from the garage. The fire from the charging unit spread to the second floor, the attic, and it burned up their Lexus that was also in the garage. Who knows, man? Something they could call Qalys roofing. If nothing else, yeah, I can't, maybe Fairleese. Get you another vehicle. Ah, there you go.
Starting point is 02:15:19 Why buy that Lexus? I might suggest Early Bird. That seems like the worst thing. I think house burning down. As far as life events, that feels like that's about up there is the worst. That probably set you back two years. So wire will,
Starting point is 02:15:39 did I mention wire will came over for the mini Renny? Yeah, hero. Hero. I was talking to him, by the way, never tell your wife this story because I told my wife this story and she did not focus on the fact that wire will his punchline is what I want her to focus on. So I was telling her and remember my two girls are like you know 20 years old so they're we've had those all those years. And we're cleaning up the den.
Starting point is 02:16:09 And a lot of the stuff that was around were decorations like that they created or they made or something for my birthday that she got them to make. And it's really big. And it's it's just out of place. And some of the things like you could tell, 90% of the work, she did it. It's her handwriting, it's everything. And they had the little kid just do a little something on it. And so, and it's real big and hard to store.
Starting point is 02:16:37 And so I threw it away. At some point I've seen- Yeah, you have to. You would be amazed at the amount I have saved what these girls have done. I have bins and bins of things compared to, and this is an old man thing perhaps, but when I was a kid, I swear I might have like seven photos
Starting point is 02:16:59 from when I was a kid. And one thing that I did or made, like it was a Christmas ornament, and the only reason it's still saved, it was packed away with the Christmas stuff every year. But other than that, like my mom did not create a museum for me, which we have done for our kids. And so I got to, can I just pick one out of the thousand things and throw it away? Anyway, I was telling Will about what a difficult thing this is for me, just cause I know this beautiful little
Starting point is 02:17:29 four year old made this or worked on this and now I'm just throwing it away. And he's like, yeah, try having your house burned down. And I thought, oh my God, I forgot who I'm talking to. This guy, all of the stuff that they had made, all gone in an instant. And I wanted my wife to focus on that. And she's like, what'd you throw away?
Starting point is 02:17:51 Oh yeah. What was it? Was it the thing that was hanging? Of course. Oh, we worked so hard on, like, okay. I know you did 16 years ago, but we just have to move on. We have to, somewhere. Should we be happy we have this?
Starting point is 02:18:06 You really needed that one square foot area that that would have taken? Well, no, I guess not. You put this on the list? Yeah, this on the list. All right. Yeah, this after you guys left. Curious.
Starting point is 02:18:19 Speaking of fire, there was one out in San Jose, California at a post office after the brother of the late Pat Tillman wrecked his car into it, Richard Tillman, who once told us that Pat's F'ing dead and that he was a champion. He seemed to perhaps be the type of guy who might have been down the path of a substance problem that day at Pat's funeral. I didn't pick up on that. We don't know for sure. He was always giving gifts. Thanks, Pat. I didn't write shit. By the way, he just took a drink of a beer right there, and I think that was the pause
Starting point is 02:19:05 I think it's important the alcohol guy on the show here to tell you this is an outdoor Funeral memorial and he is drinking a draft pint a glass draft pint He doesn't have a cup of beer a bottle or a can The mechanics it takes to get a draft pint glass this guy's he's working for it he's a pro taking a sip I didn't write shit because I'm not a writer and I just want to say it was there's a lot of people here thanks no Thanks. No. It was really amazing to be his little baby brother. Yeah, I'm not just gonna sit up here and break down on you, but thanks for coming.
Starting point is 02:19:54 Pat's a fucking champion and always will be. Just make no mistake, you want me to say this, he's not with God, he's fucking dead. He's not religious, so thanks for your thoughts, but he's fucking dead. Both things can be true. Did you say that you're, do you and your brother have a pact? Yeah, just to recreate. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:20:19 Full recreate. Just switch out little brother, big brother. Well, in this case, Dick Tillman crashed into the United States Post Office there in San Jose. He had multiple warrants for his arrest, misdemeanor trespassing, domestic violence, DUI. When the police responded, they found a man standing in the parking lot with his belongings. On the building, the phrase, Viva La Mii, had been spray painted and police on the scene determined that they believed the man had been live streaming the situation.
Starting point is 02:21:03 I've not been able to find the video of Pat Tellman's brother wrecking his sedan into a postal office, but it apparently exists. And yeah, he spray painted, or somebody, spray painted Viva La Mi. And you know, it would be easy to say that his life really took a turn for the worse when his brother was killed by friendly fire,
Starting point is 02:21:27 but that feels like a guy who was kinda already working on destruction. You know. But. Well maybe he's found bottom. Well maybe. And then he can bounce back. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:21:42 What a story it will be. It's true, it's true. Maybe. What a story it will be. It's true, it's true. Our weekend of diversion, there was the Trump Epstein letter that the journal obtained. I don't even know if it's worth spending any time on it. But what happened afterwards.
Starting point is 02:21:57 That was this weekend? It was Friday, or Thursday night. Because what was very interesting after that was the series of play fakes that had to be run be they here's some stuff we know about Martin Luther King jr. or Barack Obama or whatever and one of those things was Trump decided that on the list of stuff that should be back is the name the Washington Redskins and he actually has a little bit of a you know access to the levers of power here
Starting point is 02:22:30 because there is an attempt to build a new stadium in Washington DC and he says that there will be no deal in the... What does that mean? Does he actually have something to say about it? You know, that's a good question. I don't know He could use his quote negotiating skills is what the press secretary said But there's no real Formal way for him to get involved in a local private Issue I heard that press secretary likes older dudes. She does, she's married to one.
Starting point is 02:23:08 I love her. I love her more than the traditionally hot ones. She's a little, she's not plump, but she's a little soft. Natural. Yeah, and I really. She's not botoxed up. She looks, yes. His other ladies, some can look skeletorish.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Very much so. But she's, yes. She's a down home conservative looking woman. Yeah, and she's ready to get sassy. Yeah, that's all of them. She's really good at sparring too. She's not bad at it. Yeah, her mouth is all the way there.
Starting point is 02:23:38 Cause Sarah Huckabee was plump, but also her mouth was not all the way. Yeah, she was a little weird. Weird eye. Probably had a stroke, I'm sure. Weird eye's fine though. Oh, she was a little weird. Weird eye. Probably had a stroke, I'm sure. Weird eye's fine, though. Oh, I don't mind weird eye. Weird mouth gives me a little more pause,
Starting point is 02:23:50 but I also would accept it. Yeah, for sure. Sometimes it's good. But so. Different ways. Here, Trump popped off. You've probably seen the tweets. It's time, you know.
Starting point is 02:24:05 For what? My statement on the Washington Redskins, what was his first one? It's totally blown up and only in a very positive way. I may put a restriction on them that if they don't change the name back to the original Washington Redskins, get rid of the ridiculous moniker Washington Commanders. I won't make a deal for them to build a stadium
Starting point is 02:24:21 in Washington. He also took aim at the Cleveland Guardians. The owner of the Cleveland baseball team, Matt Dolan, who's very political, has lost three elections in a row because of that ridiculous name change. If you change the name back to the Cleveland Indians, he might actually win an election. Indians are being treated very unfairly.
Starting point is 02:24:43 Make Indians great again, in parentheses, meagre. Meagre! Wait, they just changed your name like two years ago. Three elections. I think he means- What is it, the WNBA? Yeah, there you go. So, Guardians as a name sucks.
Starting point is 02:25:01 But- Horrible. I don't think that- I feel like the name Indians could have stayed But just take chief wahoo. Yes, the name Redskins had to go and honestly there's a maybe a Note of nuance you have to accept here
Starting point is 02:25:17 But like I heard jr. Mentioned the Utah Utes this morning that tribe has like very explicitly via leadership said we're okay with it. But like the Seminoles, I mean even the Chiefs, if you say Chiefs or Warriors. What's up Chief? That is kind of a term of you're in charge or respect. Like so when you say well why are those not being changed? I mean, red skin is crazy work. The fact that that stayed as long as it did.
Starting point is 02:25:46 Chief is a sign of respect, but I was talking to somebody this weekend. It doesn't always feel that way. Yeah, no. If it's somebody that you consider... Somebody just calling you boss or chief, but you know they're doing it because they think you're a joke. That's the way I felt it. Yeah yeah there may be some projecting there right but we all know that guy but it's not redskin yeah yeah yeah it's not an outright slur yes I know it'd be very interesting though if he said I'm gonna die on this hill he won't dude he does this about
Starting point is 02:26:26 everything. Yeah and last week. So it's a distraction. Yeah and I don't know the deal probably won't even be done while he's in office who knows I know maybe that's wrong but last week it was Coke it was new he was like Coke sucks now they should put real sugar back in it. Oh they did? Yeah he's like I talked to the people at Coke thanks for your attention of this matter. I talked to the people at Coke, thanks for your attention to this matter. I talked to the people at Coke. He's like, the top people at Coke. And then the people at Coke were like, we appreciate the president's interest.
Starting point is 02:26:53 We're always trying to make the product better. He's, I mean, we used to think this, but he is the embodiment. He is drunk uncle, the SNL character. Yeah, whatever. He's your uncle at Thanksgiving, just bitching about everything in life. That place. And it used to be just,
Starting point is 02:27:11 he would just do it on his weekly videos or whatever. You've on there. Yeah, now the only difference is, in the last year, he's not doing just that. He's also very effectively executing an agenda that I don't even know that the people that voted for him are at least all 52% of the country or whatever I'm bored with,
Starting point is 02:27:29 but it's not just games and vlogs now. It's just that he's still doing those. Like while he's doing real stuff, he's also taking a sip of a drink and being like, they should fix this. And, but then that becomes the story and not the other stuff. Yeah. What are you
Starting point is 02:27:47 gonna do? Why don't we make that the news for the day? What do you say? Hey real quick before we go. Yeah? Rest in peace to singer-songwriter Ozzy Osbourne found dead at 76. Wow that just happened? Or was it like this morning? Like an hour ago. Okay. That's worthy. They played super recently. Didn't they? Sabbath played. Damn.
Starting point is 02:28:16 I watched some of that Sabbath show. Underappreciated by my generation, I think. Black Sabbath effing rules. They should be thought of as Metallica or better. underappreciated by my generation, I think. Black Sabbath effing rules. They should be thought of as Metallica or better. You never had a metal phase, did you? Like at all. No.
Starting point is 02:28:35 I'm into Andy Gibb, bro. I feel you. You can be both. Well, RIP to Ozzy Osbourne. RIP to Ozzy Osbourne for sure, man. That first mainstream reality show? Yeah. It felt like it. You know what's wild?
Starting point is 02:28:50 Is he was like 50. Oh, really? That young? Dude, I mean, he's 76 now. That show was what? Wow, you're right. But he was doting around like the fun thing would just be watching him make a sandwich. Was that norm? I confused, I think Ozzy Osbourne
Starting point is 02:29:09 was trying to open a CD. Yes. And it took him like 15 minutes and they showed it like the whole thing. Yes. But then I think our, we had a camera in one of the compounds or something and there was a camera in this kitchen,
Starting point is 02:29:29 and it was just watching Norm make a sandwich. It was giving Ozzy the exact same thing. So an old man just real slowly doing everything. Shout out to Jack Osborne, by the way. Definitely had him in the death pool. And he's still rocking? Yeah, I mean, I think he obviously had to do the How's the girl doing? had him into Deathpool. And he's still rocking? Yeah, I mean, I think he obviously had to do the... How's the girl doing?
Starting point is 02:29:48 ...Laymo sober thing. The girl was... She works, dude. They're good kids. How about Sharon? She's around. The Dumb Zone News. There's your news. Like and subscribe.
Starting point is 02:30:00 Yeah, man. Thanks, Blake. Our next little seggy will be brought to you by Lone Star Beer. Let me see if I have some extra special copy points for Lone Star Beer. I do know they have the sweet merch because I am wearing a Lone Star Beer hat right now. You can get one of these cool things and look just like me. If you go to lonestarbeer.com, use the promo code DUMBZONE21, and you get 21% off the merch. They're awesome. Oh, in fact, part of the mini-renny,
Starting point is 02:30:37 we got a new fridge. Whoa! And stocked it with not only Lone Star Beer, but also Lone Star Lite, the blue can. That's my can. Blake prefers the red can, but Lone Star Beer is greatness. And we want you to remember Lone Star Beer when it comes to... Oh, how about this when you go to a baseball game this year?
Starting point is 02:31:00 Lone Star Beer is at Global Life Field for Rangers games. So go to lonestarbeer.com, dumb zone 21, get yourself some merch. The interlude I wanted to take because I'm surprised you had none of it today. We'll get to today in history in just a second. But did you know that today, July 22nd, 2025,
Starting point is 02:31:34 the earth will spin faster today. How did you know that? Get him out of here. What has he got? Create the second shortest day in history. In history. Shortest? How do they know that? Well, history since they started recording these milliseconds
Starting point is 02:31:51 since 1970. So in the Super Bowl era, Picasso would have flown off of the earth if it was spinning this fast. Not built for it. It'll be 1.34 milliseconds less than the standard 24 hours. Dude, what am I going to do with all this time? Right.
Starting point is 02:32:13 Holy jeez. If this trend continues, they may need to subtract a second from atomic clocks in 2029. So be prepared for that. Think of all the shot clock violations. Guys like what, I was just at seven seconds. He's like, no, eight. You weren't over.
Starting point is 02:32:32 Bet the unders. Timeline. And then the one story that- Bet the unders. The one story that I did text you just to see if you'd use it in the news. I'm sorry. But you didn't, but it was because it was July 20th that this happened.
Starting point is 02:32:47 So a couple days ago, that was the anniversary of Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong, in theory, walking on the moon. NASA workers planned a moon day protest to oppose the mass layoffs, budget cuts, and etc. that's happening at NASA. So they were going to just do a quick little walkout like kids will at school for gun violence or something.
Starting point is 02:33:14 But they walked outside and they all floated away in their spacesuits and they couldn't protest. That's not funny. I'm sorry. So they have a... We had a protest on Moon Day. And man of the people, Buzz Aldrin, was right there with him, right?
Starting point is 02:33:29 Locked arm in arm. Oh no way, he was living in like fucking Beverly Hills wearing his moon jacket. Punching people. His moon letter jacket. All right, so that's a little space news for you today. I knew you'd want it. Great.
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Starting point is 02:34:48 I'm humbled by it, actually. Help me wish Cheese Fry aficionado and all around good dude Jason Hasler happy birthday. Leaders are Vince Young, TC's Dental Health, and Blake's softball box score. Legalize it, never punt. From the Fort Collins DF, Jared Reimer. Dan, it's my buddy Wes Sheridan's birthday.
Starting point is 02:35:14 We are going to be joining y'all soon for a BVB segment talking about raising money for Alzheimer's Care and Research in Dallas. And of course, the Woman's Flag Football Game. This is from Mariola Schmid. The great Mariola. RN2, who wants you to please join me in supporting BVB Dallas' campaign to tackle Alzheimer's. Is that play? Yeah, why not? Why wouldn't it? Because we did the intercept cancer
Starting point is 02:35:47 and we decided that's bad because you then have cancer. Right, but if you're just standing over Alzheimer's. You need to swat away cancer. Yeah, you need to hit stick Alzheimer's. And you stand over it like Ray Lewis. So you want to tackle it. You're trying to eradicate it somehow.
Starting point is 02:36:02 I don't know if that works. I think tackle's good. Also, this is not their main focus, the BVB game is the focus, but I have put out there before if they were to take those two teams and give me their best like 15 and I go get my best 14, I feel like that game would raise a lot of money. I'm putting it out there. Guys versus girls? Yeah. OK.
Starting point is 02:36:26 And I'm not confident that the Gamecocks would win, because those chicks can effing ball. The quarterback on one of those teams is a Team USA quarterback. I'm a BVB vet, called a lot of those games. Why don't you marry him? I will, and then tackle Alzheimer's. Today is my 30th birthday.
Starting point is 02:36:47 Putting your tax dollars to good use for my subscription. No one woke me up in that special way, unfortunately. Hopefully I will find some sympathy pussy. We know about that, Henry. NEP is worthy, right? Like Yeah. Sympathy. Sure. I mean Dan's over here trying to. That's what I always thought. Hop in with a second the stud guys done. When I was attempting to try to get famous which I still am trying that I always thought would see the celebrities like oh she just wants me
Starting point is 02:37:24 because I'm famous like Okay, that's why did you get famous? Yeah, so you could get girls like that That's the whole point. I don't think a lot of dudes say that Yeah, I think it's usually ladies all right My leaders are Luca and Woke Parking Spaces. Fire Nico, Death to Ableism from Alex McGee. There's Woke Parking Spaces? Probably yeah, if he's, the guy hates ableism. Dear Daniel, I'm writing in to wish my younger brother happy Chandler Parsons birthday.
Starting point is 02:38:02 You may remember us from the remote a couple of months ago where Jake asked my dad if he can still jack off. Thanks for that, Jake. Jake and I took a selfie together and he sent our mutual friend. His leaders are Blake getting cucked by a homeless guy. Oh, we didn't get an Angela report today. We're going to save that for tomorrow. And Jake comparing rehab to prison any chance he gets. That...
Starting point is 02:38:27 More shoddy audio, or shoddy-o. That's exaggerated. Neverpunt from Denny Norrie. Good kid. Hi, my husband of 23 years, Brad, is a week one listener only because we were off-grid camping when the podcast started, otherwise he would have been a day one. His birthday is Tuesday. I don't have a decent picture of my jugs, mostly because they are more like teacups.
Starting point is 02:38:53 A birthday shout out would make his day from Katherine from Casa Tortuga Wild Turtle Rehab. Oh, rehab turtles get into rehab too. Yeah, it's tough out there for them. Casa Tortuga. Dear Hunter of the Cunning Stunt. Monday was the Michael Jordan, the second time around birthday for Davey Holmes. Leaders are TC, Heart Attack Man, and Picasso
Starting point is 02:39:18 playing pong while drinking a Diet Pepsi. Okay. From his pal from another birth canal, Allie. Two more. Dear Torher Crotch Womb Raider. That's involved. Sadly it was my Tony Dorsett birthday. I'm an autism specialist at a public school and probably need less R&R than a general education teacher at a white private school. My leaders are IJB and SuperGamesCast64 from Travis the Galveston Day One. And we have Sultan of the Soak. Yesterday was the birthday of, oh maybe this is the same guy, my brother Travis Taylor. His leaders are pre-stroke Matt Christmas.
Starting point is 02:40:29 Whoa. Who's that? From Choppo? Okay. Former intern ace Hunter Cannon, he is Harry Truman years old from Landon. That's a great email. Why don't you marry it? Because I already married. Oh that's right. Today is Tuesday, July 22nd So some on this day in 1796 Cleveland, Ohio was founded by General Moses Cleveland who saw like a bunch of Native Americans and said I have now discovered this place Here's Moses, Cleveland. Yeah, what was the what how was Mr. Cleveland regarded back then? You know, cause like I just got back from driving up from 45 and there's like a three story statue of Sam Houston and it doesn't even really stand out at all.
Starting point is 02:41:12 I think there is a statue. Like, do others- The guy that invented Cleveland? Cleveland, yeah. Okay, but they don't elevate him to the level of mythological. Like I just thought Davy Crockett, Sam Houston, Jim Bowie, they were just God as a kid.
Starting point is 02:41:30 I'll tell you what though, that's a Texas thing. That's what I'm saying. Like I said, I didn't know that the Wright brothers were from Ohio. I always thought it was Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. And it turns out, yeah, they're from like Dayton, Ohio. You were able to make it so far in life as to not know there was a bridge that had gargoyles protecting it that would later be known as Cardi.
Starting point is 02:41:53 No one in Cleveland knows that, dude. I swear. And to announce that fact that apparently Tom Hanks lived here for a little bit. Do you remember that? Because he announced it. Yeah, I kind of heard Tom Hanks was from Cleveland. Okay. But he didn't wear it like Drew Carey.
Starting point is 02:42:10 Right, it should have been Drew Carey or Mimi. Probably should have been Mimi. That's a weird thing for Mimi. Why? I thought you were going to say like a dream over the weekend or something. No, just a bad beat. For Mimi! You know. The worst of bad beats.
Starting point is 02:42:30 There was something there though. No. She's got a little heft. Oh, sure. Might have been a man. On this day in 1957, Walter Morrison applied for a patent for a flying toy which became known as the Frisbee. Frisbee is still popping at the beach. Good bit. Frisbee is a good bit. Appreciate you there, Walter Morrison.
Starting point is 02:43:08 On this day in 1991, police in Milwaukee arrested Jeffrey Dahmer. He would later confess to murdering 17 men and boys. Showing that gay people can do anything that straight people can do. They can also mass murder. Do they have any, it feels like we need an update on, whether it's serial killers or like, I grew up with, you know, the same names,
Starting point is 02:43:34 basically that you did, I almost feel like, right? Like Dahmer. Yeah. Gacy. And you know the John Wayne Bobbitt story. There's just not. Like who's Henry's? Yeah, who's the guy that you know the John Wayne Bobbit story. There's just not. Like who's Henry's? Yeah, who's the guy that you know of?
Starting point is 02:43:50 Probably because we've eradicated just the ability to. Pull it off. Be a serial killer. And you know what, it's probably been replaced by like, smash shooters or school shooters, that sort of thing. And of course we know many of those names, so. Yeah, don't worry buddy. But like Blake didn't know the Bobbit story.
Starting point is 02:44:14 Right. That was. But you did. That was endless entertainment. So you're saying kinda like the, like the five that can't shoot a three or maybe even the full back, serial killers have been kind of phased out.
Starting point is 02:44:27 It feels that way, the game, passing them by a little bit. We're running the spread offense where we shoot up balls. There have been some lady serial killers, but generally that's, like you gotta get in nursing so you got access and you can do it in that way. Right, TC and I were talking about Warnos the other day. That was somehow in the news. The monster movie.
Starting point is 02:44:48 That's still the most insane. I think it's the only, they say the only one. And she did it via like luring them in as Johns. Nice. Oh yeah. You die doing what you loved. Or at least thinking about it. I don't know if they ever got to the point.
Starting point is 02:45:06 Did she actually have sex with him? I think some of them she did. Oh, okay. Nice. And on this day in 2019, Old Town Road. Hold on real quick. Hold on. I know this is good, but I'm on
Starting point is 02:45:19 Jeffrey Dahmer's Wikipedia page, right? It says other names. This feels very basketball reference to me because I've known of Jeffrey Dahmer my whole life and you're not that far off. The Milwaukee Monster. That's not. That doesn't seem good.
Starting point is 02:45:39 Okay, sorry. Old Town Road. Great little show. Whatever that show was we watched. The Dahmer one? Was it HBO or something? Yeah. Funny. And on this day in 2019, Old Town Road by Lil Nas X
Starting point is 02:45:54 remained at the top of the Billboard Hot 100 chart for a 16th week, tying a record set by Mariah Carey. That means that this was the year that Texas Tech was in the final four. Just remember we had a, you know, you're going to remember the Coldplay meme week or two. Like, Old Town Road was going on for some time. We're like, no one can understand why it was this popular. And then it was. And we thought, boy, we're going're gonna know our grandchildren will know little Nas X
Starting point is 02:46:29 But Yeah had a couple hits All right, we have today's birthdays You're gonna do on this day on the show, ah my bad bad. I don't wanna hear it, three hour guy. I'll make it quick. In 2020, on this day, Kelly Forbes, Julie's husband, was about to leave for the bubble.
Starting point is 02:46:54 Ah. And that was a big deal. Yeah, because we could all go after Julie. I think this is only a bit for me, but I don't care. Everyone during COVID was really obsessed with their Peloton scores, including a host at the station who I think had a hot bike. And I found Killer's Peloton profile
Starting point is 02:47:19 and I would check it daily to see which ride he would tap out of. Well, you guys are like the WNBA. Oh, yeah. Pulling each other down. Everybody in the. Nobody had a problem with Bob's score more than you. I didn't until he thought he was in the top 1%
Starting point is 02:47:37 of athletes on this earth. I know, but whatever. It's still funny. I love it. But then I would see Killer like take a 20 minute Britney Spears ride and quit six minutes in. You're such a jerk. Why is that public?
Starting point is 02:47:53 He loves watching Angelo's eating habits. He loves watching Killer. He just wants to watch everybody. Little sociologist. Just criticize everyone else. Today was Dustin the organ guy. Wow. Whoa. That was Dustin the Organ Guy. Wow.
Starting point is 02:48:05 Whoa. That was a remember where you were moment. Yeah. Let's carry this over. We have groups on, he's gonna play music. Oh, you hired an organist? Yeah, we'll have him on too. And then just changed our world.
Starting point is 02:48:16 And of course he'll recognize this one. He'll recognize this one. And then the very next segment we reviewed Rookie of the Year. That movie rules. We're just churning through the summer of 2020. And then I guess just last year, we learned that Dan's daughter will just hang up mid-conversation
Starting point is 02:48:33 on her mom. Doesn't like to cut her jib, and she'll just hang up. I love it. All right, today's birthdays. Ezekiel Elliott is, guess Blake. 28. Oh wow, you're guessing low, he's 30. I would have thought he was older.
Starting point is 02:48:58 Yeah, he was compensating, Blake was, for like, oh, it's going to be long. Knowing that I'm going to make him get, yeah, like he's been done for like, oh, it's going to be a long... Knowing that I'm going to make him get... Yeah, like he's been done for like four years, like an incredibly early burn. Which begs the question, will he retire as a cowboy this year? Will he try to play? Like certainly he's going to retire as a cowboy, right?
Starting point is 02:49:21 Yeah. Although... Wait. That may be the... He was on the... He did retire a cowboy right? Yeah. Although that may be the... He never retired. Oh but the last team he's played for is the Cowboys. So that means he was on the Chargers practice squad during the playoffs. You're right they said they were releasing him so he... Well yeah I think he thinks he's still playing. Otherwise he would have announced it, but I think we're gonna do a Zeke retire a cowboy. That may be one of the shorter retire a cowboy careers you see.
Starting point is 02:49:56 I wouldn't hear all that long. How many years was he good? If you ask me, two? One and a half? Other people would tell you three because his raw numbers in three years were very good. Sean Lee, 39. AKA? Snake. Keyshon Johnson, 53. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Another Jets wide receiver, Garrett Wilson, 25. Bagged up.
Starting point is 02:50:31 Did he just get paid? Yeah. Yeah. Like early, early. Speaking of Zeke. He's good. Yeah, he's... But he has had barely over...
Starting point is 02:50:43 He's right now, he's got a Mike Evans career. What? He's got 1,053 yards, 1,100 yards, 1,600. That's Hall of Fame, isn't it? If you do it for enough years in a row. I may have been suckered by hard knocks. I think 1,000 yards too, now that we've added another game has even diminished that even more.
Starting point is 02:51:04 Yeah, I have no use really for stuff like that. But really with no good quarterback. That's the thing. That's the thing. Not even close to a decent quarterback. Sergey Zuboff, 55. My favorite star besides Madonna, of course. I might take him, yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:24 I mean, that was- During that time, I mean, everybody's favorite player is Madonna, but. I might take him. Yeah, I mean that was. During that time, I mean everybody's favorite player is Madonna but. But you know everybody had to have. You have to get your other. Hipster favorite. Yeah and I love Zuboff man, loved. I still do.
Starting point is 02:51:35 He's my hero. The stories about him, in between periods, just smoking and he was like the strongest guy in the NHL they said yeah I've always thought he looked like you he was just skinny yeah just real but just solid I uh I wonder you know there's that that sports gene book that we talked about where people from different parts of the world, their bodies are made for this or that based on climate or what stuff they had together to eat. It's kind of like a modern Jimmy the Greek take,
Starting point is 02:52:15 like explaining there actually is a difference. Someone should apply that to Eastern Europeans, Russians, and cigarettes because they appear like doing myth busters. Eastern Europeans, Russians, and cigarettes because they appear like do a myth busters like an average athlete from America is not smoking three cigarettes in the intermission of a hockey game and going and giving you another 10 minutes 12 minutes of ice time. They see Vlade. He was breathing Chernobyl air. You know that must be what it is. Just a cigarette. Everything is radioactive.
Starting point is 02:52:45 It's fresh. Jason Robertson is 26. I would like to know how many Lucy's they can do though. Cause it may not be cigarettes, but their nicotine intake is probably off the charts. Today's war game winner is Dave Steeb. He's 68. Mike Sweeney, who Gabe Kapler loved to play with, is 52. Terrence Stamp is 87.
Starting point is 02:53:10 He's from the original Superman. Neil before Zod, he's Zod. Senator, former Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson is 82. Actor Danny Glover, 79. He was getting too old for this I thought he was 79 in that movie he's like 38 but David Spade is 61 Selena Gomez is 33 born in Grand Prairie se Hinton is 77 the author author of The Outsiders. Your fan, Henry? Oh, okay, I forgot he has a birthday, yeah. Se, so a lady wrote The Outsiders, huh? Nobody freaked out about that.
Starting point is 02:53:54 Well, I think she said she used Se as, Ah, okay. so that nobody would know. Like now we know, but back then, like, I don't know, S.E.? Who could it be? Don Van Natta, 61. Certainly lurking around a big story. Yeah, I bet he's featured quite heavily in the Jerry documentary as a narrator. And I'll give my dumb zone birthday of the day after Henry gives his birthday of the day,
Starting point is 02:54:27 but it could be the same one, but I'm not sure. Oh, he's shaking his head as if there's no way. Well, Essie Hinton was gonna be mine. Oh. Interesting. But- You're more of a greaser or a social. That is probably the one thing, like what has transcended all of our generations?
Starting point is 02:54:47 I think we just found it. So kids still read The Outsiders. Yeah, a lot of the time it's through school, but I found that like it was one of the ones from school that I actually really enjoyed. Like I thought it was a fantastic book. Cause when I, when was that? Junior high probably?
Starting point is 02:55:03 Yeah. Like that was all the rage when I was in junior high. Everybody loved the outsiders and a movie came out about it. Which is good too. The movie sucked. I didn't like it. Well, cause I read the book a hundred times and wanted it to be the exact same thing.
Starting point is 02:55:18 I think when you're a kid, the concept of them making a movie about a book you actually read, it's, you think it's great. But I remember- You've read so few books. I remember as I read it though, like I thought they were called The Sox. I never put together it's social class
Starting point is 02:55:37 and they're called The Socs. So then that bothered me when the movie is like calling them The Socs and I'm like, why are they doing that to the Socs? I guess it was just because it was read in class. I don't, I never had that. Okay. That mix up.
Starting point is 02:55:52 So who you got? I think ours might have not been a school assignment. It just like people were really, it blew up. Go ahead. All right. We'll just go with a high quality forgotten running back. And that's Steven Jackson. Rams, Falcons.
Starting point is 02:56:06 That's a guy you might have forgot about, and should have been a cowboy. Oregon State? Oregon State, and instead the Cowboys took Julius Jones, and Steven Jackson ended up having, now, Steven Jackson also got to play in, I don't know if that was the greatest show on turf at that point, but he was playing the Rams offense.
Starting point is 02:56:26 He used them a lot like that. I loved that guy. That is a good forgotten running back. He was a badass because he had the elbow, sweatband, the wrist, and no gloves. And I think, was he early on? The visor? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:38 Yes. So I shot him with his visor. That's it, yeah. TC and I do this often. I don't think it's unique to us, but running back to the favorite guys to remember You may have forgot about it Now you remember they come and go so quick The dumb zone birthday of the day is actor Skyler Gisando Skyler a man
Starting point is 02:57:01 Skyler, a man. That is Gideon from The Righteous Gems. Oh, wow. He was also the- Little dude. They made him the protagonist in that, remember that documentary about social media that we all got really into? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:20 About how they were game, how Netflix, or Twitter's gamifying everything. He was like the star of that in some dramatization thing. Kids go in places. That's what I've deemed. You do righteous gemstones, Henry? You're not aware of that? No.
Starting point is 02:57:38 You know what I started? The rehearsal. I'm ready. I'm ready to go all in over the next week. Do you watch TV? Not really. I'm pretty much primarily sports and I will watch like, I love like Rick and Morty and Family Guy and like those kinds of shows. Like I just like stuff that'll make me laugh and if it's not that it's YouTube or sports. I don't really watch a ton of movies either. I guess I'm just a boring guy. I couldn't
Starting point is 02:58:07 admit no but I think you're a regular kid. Yeah like my daughter does not watch any TV shows. Like do you ever sit and watch an hour TV show? What about Love Island or stuff like that? Well see my mom and my sister have it on constantly and I just like making fun of them for it. Are there any shows? That's a weird thing to watch with your daughter. Yeah, it really is. I told you a couple weeks ago when we were talking about The Bachelor or The Bachelorette.
Starting point is 02:58:32 That is happening. Now that's a dumb or a tamer version, but moms are watching this with their ho-in training daughter. Sorry about your sister. Well, she has a boyfriend, so she's like, she's okay. She's set. Sure. Supposedly.
Starting point is 02:58:48 Right. So no shows. Not any that y'all would be super interested in. No, I don't mean that. I mean, will you sit down and watch something? I'll watch your mom. All right. She's 52.
Starting point is 02:59:00 52. If I got that wrong, she's gonna kill me. That is a different world. Go ahead Parents married yes said go ahead Where weren't we gonna have intern mom day at some point Oh on the show and bring them in she's funny We should do that. You know what we should should. Henry, what are you doing, bud? I should preview the show, though. Don't advertise your mom.
Starting point is 02:59:28 I often do that with the intern's mom. This is a six hour show today. Used to be we used to do intern sister day, but I think that's a little too creepy. That's changed. Alex Trebek, born on this day now dead, says here Kemp spin. I don't know that it's that much of one.
Starting point is 02:59:43 What do you have? He did tell a story one time of how he like ate way too many edibles at a party with some other famous person but... Married a 26 year old when he was 50. Okay and again. Nice. Your sister 26? No she's younger than me. Oh then I don't want to hear anything about it. Thank you. That's your Jordan Hudson. Oh my god. Dead on this day, still dead. You have Wayne McLaren. He is the actor who played the Marlboro Man,
Starting point is 03:00:14 died of lung cancer at 51. Uday Nkusei Hussein died on this day in 2003. You ever seen those pictures, Henry? I don't think so. Do you know who Saddam Hussein died on this day in 2003. You ever seen those pictures Henry? Mmm I don't think so. Do you know who Saddam Hussein is? Yeah, yeah. His son's bodies are rather bloated. And died on this day in 2011 Tony Spirano. Damn former cowboy great. That's right. That's right. Tony Spirano by the way. I've told this story a million times so it's probably boring but he authored what I think is like the greatest symbolic football coach move. That's right. Is he got hired I believe as an interim head coach and on his first day he took copies of the schedule
Starting point is 03:01:01 to that point out to the practice field with shovels and said men were Burying what's happened in the past? And his little fat coach out there buried. I think they probably lost every game the rest of the year But it's the thought that counts Adios mofo gotta go before this becomes a zoo Grab and type for my name if you want to watch more of my videos. Even see this sky You should come on down to West 6th Street It's the perfect place if you're a douchebag Watch the poor people all wait for buses Who the f*** still uses a payphone?
Starting point is 03:01:53 Here's the place where there used to be industry This train is carrying jobs out of Cleveland Cleveland leads the nation in drifters Here's a statue of Moses Cleveland He's the guy who invented Cleveland. Yeah!

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