The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 8-13-25 | Javonte Williams and Jon Machota with us at Cowboys Training Camp

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Training camp coverage sponsored by Flooring Direct and Moxy Energy!Jon Machota from The Athletic explains how he thinks Brian Schottenheimer got the job and starting Dallas Cowboys running back, Javonte Williams, joins us from the tent (00:00) - Jon Machota: Jerry doesn't want to slow down (27:04) - Cowboys: Schotty says titles don't matter (57:52) - Open: Fire Nico guy at Rangers game (01:12:55) - Big (Wednesday) Viewer Mail Bag (01:32:54) - Javonte Williams in the tent (01:52:48) - Dan with the wireless at practice (02:16:15) - News: LA knows how to cover a police chase (02:29:31) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Hello again, everybody. Welcome to the Dumb Zone at Cowboys Training Camp. We are recording live to tape and live on YouTube. And my name is Dan McDowell. My name is Jake Kemp. I'm Blake Jones. And here we are. Day three for us.

We're in a tent. We're under a tent. Looking over there at Clayton. Feels like he's in his groove, feeling good. He's thriving. Doesn't look like he's down at all. Matt Grimm is here. And joining us right off the bat, he's been here many, many days.

What day is this for you? um 26 i think you've lost track this is uh jama chota writer for the athletic wow getting the big hitters one of the many hosts of the are you the host of the one star k t's the host john's the analyst in my consumer opinion i'd agree with that yeah okay but i love it love the pod it's great uh you're just doing them every sunday these days or uh during the season we'll do them uh twice a week but Yeah, right now. Sometimes it's tough to get everybody together on the same schedule. Our buddy, Saad Yusuf.

Oh, yeah. We booked the members of that podcast who are allowed to appear on our show. No shot, John, but, you know. I understand the business. How was the premiere the other night? Do you really, is that a big, John Machota just must love a red carpet? They hate to see him coming. I mean, if you tell me, A.C. Slater is going to be there.

I mean, there's just some randomness that went on there. He feels like the most Cowboys celebrity. Yeah, that just, I didn't expect to see Mario Lopez. What? That was real random. I saw him getting served by his ex-wife on Twitter the other night. I saw that, too, you know? I don't think anybody asked him about that.

Tough look. That was. That was. I thought the red carpet thing or blue carpet, whatever, it was whatever. But the actual premiere to show it in a theater like that, I thought it was great. Because I've watched all eight episodes. on my laptop. And I think it's solid.

But like if you got to watch all eight in a theater, it would take it to another level. So that part was all cool. They did a little Q&A after with Jerry and Michael and Emmett. And yeah, it was good. I don't think it's anything that had to be out here. I think you could have done it in Dallas. It would have been just fine. But, you know, Jerry likes the Hollywood aspect of it.

What seems to be people's reaction is it's very indicative of just this is what the Cowboys are. If you expected this time to now be all about football, well, you're sorely mistaken. But in their mind, it is about football. Yeah. Because we're honoring football. But I think I first heard you say this. This is like a month ago or so, but it was on the podcast.

And it was just that you have to stop looking at the Cowboys and Jerry as a rational fan and look at it as like Jerry. he's enjoying the twilight of his life, right? There's no question about that. And I think also for him being around these players, keeps him young. You know, if you go off into retirement and you kind of just, even with all of his wealth and you're by yourself

and maybe you're a rich, older friends, I don't think it's the same as. I think for me, as I get older, I want to deal with less BS. I think he likes dealing with a lot of it. Like, even when it comes to the team, I don't know if he can handle it just being all just solid. I think he needs things to kind of shake things up,

and that's kind of why I think the Michael Parsons thing is a part of something that easily could not be a distraction, easily could have been taken care of months before we got out here, but I don't think he likes stuff. The one I always go back to, and it's so random, but it's so hit home for me as in that Teledega Nights movie, the Ricky Bobby Dad part. Very popular this week.

Okay, well, the way that the day, dad they talk about how like he just can't have everything just go right he's always got to mess it up they're at the restaurant together and he has to everything's going well and he's like no i got to do something to kind of mess this whole thing up and i think about that with jerry all the time i mean in my time cover room i mean i started in 2011 i didn't get any of the 90s you know i've gotten the last 15 years of which by the way i should have been there for this should have been the good years because if you follow the cowboys 60s getting established 70s they took off 80s drop back down, 90's crazy again.

So you dropped down to 2010 to 20. I should have covered at least two or three Super Bowls, but it's not happened. That's a really interesting perspective on Jerry, and it makes a lot of sense. I mean, it's like anybody, you know? I mean, you do stay younger by being around younger people, and chaos is a young man's game.

So most guys his age are like, what if I could just like never do anything again? But we're talking about it like, this is kind of failed. They just hired this coach, and he's so inexperienced. He looks down at the board and sees nothing but good things. Yeah, Jerry's looking at the entirety of the – or this is, I think, what you were saying the other week is the entirety of his life and the situation with the Cowboys and kind of like it's the Netflix thing. Are you going to say Jerry has failed?

Absolutely not. He's an NFL Hall of Famer. So he's Logan Roy. He's putting his kids in charge of certain things. He wants to leave them perfectly, you know, set up for the next 100 years or something and just be thought of as a king. And he's just basking in the glow of all. He's not thinking, man, we could have done so much more.

He's just like, this is great. Everything's rolling great. Yeah, and I think there's a lot of Cowboys fans who think that even after he's done as an owner on this earth, that it's just going to keep rolling this way. and I don't get the sense that that's the case at all. Like, I don't get the sense that, I mean, just in sports in general, I just think of all the owners that have been, whether they're the ones that are really brash and spend big

or the ones that have kind of been the one that have put the team where it's at. Like, very rarely do the kids follow after. I mean, I think of that with just really successful business people. You can go all the way up to the current president of the United States. Like, it's hard to duplicate what that one person is and just think that, oh, well, the next person is just going to keep being like that. Like, there's such a one-of-one. It's a fascinating topic.

We were talking about it with the president the other night, but do you remember when I first introduced you to sew it, grow, it, blow it, like the generational arc that usually happens. Yeah, like maybe it's the Ford family or some. It's a million. Whatever, yeah. That's a good one. So, yeah, he knows.

Yeah, Ford family's a great one. Yeah. But I do think that this is a unique situation. I'm not sure that we have another power structure where, the family, they're not handing it off to a 28-year-old. You know, they're handing it off to very experienced, whether we like it or not, football people, at least in Stephen and Will McLeigh is still here. I don't know, I just, I feel like I could see Stephen kind of carrying on at least the

tenor of it, but it does sort of feel like when you see DJ, TJ, try to talk like his dad, and you're like, that's not really the real thing, is it? Well, like, Stephen will still be visible, and he'll be, you know, a wrap, and he'll be doing the radio interviews and he'll talk after game and stuff like that. But I've been around Steven 100 times in those situations where you know very early on, like he's trying to get done with this. He doesn't really want to share anything. Big difference.

I almost can, I can't think of a time where I ever felt like we were just talking to Jerry and he was just trying to run out the clock. Like it's almost like sport to him. Like he wants to give you something, you know, and that's where I think it leads to a lot of distractions. He wants that stuff, whereas I don't think Stephen really cares for that stuff. Now I'm not saying there can't be contract holdouts. I'm not saying that it means that they're going to have all this crazy success, but in terms of the distractions and a lot of the stuff that you see in that documentary, I just don't see

that continuing to that level and not anywhere close. Because in the context we talk about it right now, Jerry flat out said on the red carpet, their blue carpet the other night, like, you know, it's always exciting. And if it gets boring, I'll stir it up. And it's like, oh, the crazy, you know, guys just shooting from the hip, whatever. But the fact is, it's impossible to look at the mica situation and not think that's exactly what this is. And these are people.

These are not stops. He's in control in the long run. He's not going. I get it. If he wants Micah to be on the team, Michael will be on the team. That's why he's laid back and like, no, I'm not concerned.

The part that's frustrating for me is a fan who's always going to be a fan is that it doesn't seem that in his mind or anyone operationally that there is a connection between seeking out that attention in those headlines and putting you at a disadvantage

in building your roster. It doesn't seem that they acknowledge that those two things exist because even if they just get Micah signed today, all this is not just water under the bridge. This stuff matters. Human relationships matter. Maybe he's major leaguing it and pissing the whole team off, but I just don't think they consider when they seek out these headlines. There is a cost to this.

To them, it's just the benefit, which is we're talking about them. I have thought that that would be the way that they finally get over the top with Jerry is where you get a head coach and a team that is almost against him, like Major League, but Jerry won't hire that coach that will do that. You know, the last one was probably Bill Parcells, that you had a chance to really get that going. So that stops that from ever being really going to happen. And you might say, like, where else on the team could you get it from?

You certainly weren't getting it from Romo. and I think Dak probably is a little... I consider Dak a good leader, but he's constrained. So how far can you really lead a locker room when Jerry's in charge? We've also talked about, like, if he had signed Micah early on, we'd be talking about how inexperienced Brian Schottenheimer is, and what are we doing here? In a running back situation?

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maybe you included, was looking this way, filming, or like, oh, tracking Micah. Yeah, we're a complete loser. It's just an insane. I know that you're self-aware enough to be, which is why I love you. Cowboys pop around. I'm sitting there the other day and it's just like, okay, so no jersey today. Okay, no, no, he's putting their jersey on. And then, like, yesterday, it's like, he has the jersey with just one arm in it.

I'm going to have the jersey, but I'm not putting this thing on all the way. And I'm like, do I tweet this? I have to report this. Yeah, I don't want to get sucked into all of this, you know? Honestly, today is such a great example because a popular headline is that, I think it's Sportico, just put out, like, the team valuations thing, and now it's got the Cowboys at 12. And I'm like, 12 billion. How do you track that?

And I just, Forbes puts one out. Like, I feel like it's two, three times a year. And I used to tweet it out because it would get a lot of traction. and now I'm just like, I know this beats the fans down. I'm just not going to respond to any of this. And that's the way I've gotten out here. But to the Micah thing, I am surprised that, and it might be now my most surprising thing from training camp,

is that he talked after the first practice and hasn't talked since. That has to be so tough for him. You know, so I sit there and say, I can't see him missing Thursday night football, first game of the season in Philadelphia. I can't see him missing that. But I'm like, I also couldn't see him. I never would have said that he would only talk once if he's going to be out here the entire time.

So I still think that'll be difficult for him to do, and I don't see him doing that. But I think that's where it goes. I don't think this is getting done before that game. So is he not talking now because of, like, just the thought of this ambiguity, the, he's got to be a leader. And is a leader, like, tweeting about his contract all the time? I mean, even him being in this situation makes it odd as a leader. Like, Dak wanted a new contract, but he was out here. practicing all that kind of stuff this is not

Micah's I don't know if that he'll ever be a leader like Dak I don't I'll be like he's a yeah I'll be honest I don't I don't know many people though that could be the way Dak is I don't think you can be Dak without his life experiences away from football so

yeah I don't because like even watching that the documentary like I don't know that Troy really wanted to be like that either you know he was fine with kind of Michael being that guy and Emmett and stuff like that. So I do think Dak is kind of a one-of-one. But to your point, yeah, I don't see Micah being like that. My counter to him is just that I think in the room, if we make fun of it,

you're on the beat of players changing their profile pictures. Yeah, I try not to be, but, yeah, unfortunately I'm aware. I think the team loves it. Like, that's the weird dynamic the Cowboys have is they have like half the major league part. So when it's time for everybody to like, hey, don't mess with them on social. media you know how the Joneses will play you and this and that and then they get their money and then they're here coming back to camp until they're 70 but during the lead up to it they all rally together but it kind of almost feels like DAC is well this is all me just trying to

figure it out it doesn't feel like Dak is a is a is a a micah guy no uh well I don't want to put yeah what do you think like I just think as far as different it feels that's what I mean yeah yeah like I know what you're saying I don't think he want Like, Dak wouldn't be doing a podcast during the year. He wouldn't be, yeah. The biggest thing I will say from seeing them both to what I can behind the scenes is Micah is probably the first guy that made me think that Dak has gotten older because those things that like Micah would say about like practices and stuff like that

and even Dak would say he's like, well, yeah, he's saying that right now because he's young. And I just think of Dak being young because he's 10, 11 years younger than I am. But now he's got two kids and, like, you can just tell he's not. not on that same path, you know, same wavelength with him. They're not going to be hanging out at the club where if you tell me it's Mike as a rookie in 2016, 2017, I think, I think Dak, Z, and Mike are thickest thieves, especially that 2016 season. They win 13 games.

The city's on fire thinking that this is finally the year that they make a Super Bowl run. I think they all would have been partying together. But where Dak is in his life, I don't think that he's doing that same stuff now. But, yeah, I don't think there's like, I don't think they dislike each other or anything like that. I know you only have a couple minutes, but I really want someone to figure out a way to write a book about Zeke's return season. Like, that was so weird. That's when I realized I was like, does Mike, do Micah and Zeke even know each other really? Like talk? Like, they're on the same team that you're, and you're like, it just didn't make any sense. You don't think that that was a big

part of what you talked about earlier with Jerry, wanting to be like, you bring in Giovante Williams. Like, really, honestly, I hate to bring this up because people have talked about it at nauseam, but it really is the, Stephen, you know, if we take Zach Martin, they were just playing it down the middle. Yeah. You know, Johnny Mansell's the guy. You know, that's the type of thing there where it's like, Tramante Williams is even spring pegs week.

You know, like, that's, that'll stir it up. And it's like, everybody in the organization can be telling him, he's got nothing left. He's got nothing left. But if he's like, no, but it's the headlines. It wasn't even just the nothing left. It's the not understanding a fucking locker room dynamic that drives me crazy. It's like, what are you just going to throw this guy back in here? Figure it out.

Time doesn't stop. Like when he left, it was just stuff like that just drives me absolutely crazy. And again, because it's for a headline. The one year of Witten? Not the same. Not the same. But it was weird.

And it is why I can't believe I lost my bet that Dez would have been back at training camp at some point after his release, after Aldemore. Des in a very Dez way, you know, he did try to light it all on fire on the way out. I mean, he made it pretty hard. He made it pretty hard. But that does not. preclude, like, that doesn't eliminate you in Jerry's mind. No.

And just like this whole, the whole Micah thing. So you don't think it gets done. Let's get you out of here on the hot seat. A couple predictions brought to you by Flore and Dreight. So you don't think it's done by Philly. Do you think he plays? I do think he plays, yeah. I just don't think he's going to give up that kind of money.

I mean, he's not giving up that money out here. That's $50,000 a day right now. Is this a sit-in? This is a sit-in. Yeah, this is a... But we're just not labeling it talking about it. Well, that's because, you know, He's saying that there's some back tightness so that he can use that.

So if he's not out there, he's getting treatment, you know? And yes, Jerry knows it, calls it out. Who were we talking about the other day? Was it Greg Ellis? Were you around for that? No. There was a Greg Ellis injury that also got magically healed. Oh, well, no, that will happen here, too.

Just like as nasty as it can get, it will be like the Z contract where it's like, yeah, he pisses Zik off by saying Zeku, but then he gets a contract done. Oh, we're going to sign, we're going to hold the T-shirt up that says Zikoo and everyone's happy. and it'll be the same way with Micah eventually, but I think it could get even uglier than it is right now. Before it gets done. Yeah, oh, yeah. Jerry's going to say something like we traded him to the Dallas Cowboys.

Yeah. Some pun. Like, is there any chance it signed like that morning? Oh, yeah. Like the last year when they signed Dak when we were in Cleveland? Yeah, but at least Dak was practicing. Can he play against Philly if it signed that day? Oh, they'd put him out there.

Oh, that's such a bad idea. It was a bad idea. But, yeah, no, he would be out there, no question. We'll be like, we're going to have him on a snap count. Is this not important that he's out there with the new defensive coordinator? Yes, absolutely it is. Like, where is he going to deploy him? Hey, just wait.

He's going to do a little bit of everything. Within the next couple weeks, and you know you've probably already had it, but you're going to get more of it. These are just great reps for Donovan and for Sam Williams. These are starter-type players. Yeah. So what if I could just bring an all pro in? It's good for him.

And nobody's seen any of that. None of this training camp footage. This is going to be. something new for iber flus you're not going to know where it comes from just like cd last year the the other team wouldn't know where he was the problem was neither did deck but see a lot of people make the argument that you know mike has dropped off as the season goes on he wears down well if he doesn't come back and start his season until week five or six i mean you'll be ready for january even though the season could be lost by then get shoddy on the hot seat today okay do you like

him? I mean, it seems like everybody likes him. Yes. I would love for them to have great success with him as the head coach, because he's great with us. What are your thoughts on the possibility of that? Because I, I don't know, it seems like it'd be fun. 50-50. I'll be honest with you. I'd laugh at people that really dig deep on what's going on out there. Really try and find you that backup de-tackle that's going to, that out there is nothing that's going to happen on Sunday. Nothing. The practice against the Rams is nothing like that. I mean, there's just so many, like, little things that happen in an NFL game that they're not doing out there.

And that's what I think. Right. That's what I think there's so many things, too, is like, I feel like he might actually be a good CEO head coach. Yeah. But to call plays two in year one, I think that's just inviting trouble. I think why that happened is because Jerry wanted him to be the play caller for whoever his next head coach was going to be.

And then Brian won him. over in the interview process to where it was like, all right, well, let's interview him tomorrow. Come back in tomorrow. Let's talk about some other stuff too. And then in the process, even Schottenheimer didn't realize at first, oh, wow, I might have a chance to be the head coach of this team. And so that kind of went that way. He wanted Brian to call a place. But I agree with you that I do think it would be best to be kind of more of that walk around Dan Campbell type thing where he could, you know, there's just a lot that's going to be on his plate. But when you tell Jerry all the things that you're going to do to make

the offense better. I don't know that you can go in there and be like, yeah, so have an offense, you're going to want to call the plays because that's right. But sitting there, you know, yes, there's so much with it, especially a first year. If you've been in it for a while. He's right. That is the narrative, the timeline that's out there. So for better or

worse, they actually looked at him and were like, this is the offensive mind. We want to take it to the next step. And I think it's just a bad deck. As Cowboy Homer, I've been trying to sell them on the idea of like, obviously you can't do this if you have a young quarterback, but, I also,

the offense needed. Yeah, an offense needed to be updated. Well, for sure, but George Pickens helps quite a bit where you're able to, I mean, I feel like last year you couldn't innovate your way out of how thin they were at skill position. So, I just, I don't trust Dak's legs, I don't trust his health, but I trust

his pre-snap stuff as much as anybody. Yeah, I mean, his track record speaks for himself, he's healthy and he's out there. I mean, they haven't had a losing record when he's played the whole season, so, and he's been very up and down, like when he's had the injury like plague season, the next season he's been really good, you know, and then he's been, I mean, really those first, those first four years, he was never injured.

I mean, he could start every game. And then the ankle happens in 2020, and then every year since it's been up and down in terms of the health. But yeah, if you tell me he's going to play all 17 games, yeah, I think the Cowboys got a chance to win nine or ten games. But if he's missing five, six games, then they probably got a top ten draft pick. Who's, can we tell anything about who's the best running back? Yeah, it's Javonte Williams. I mean, and it's just because the other guys that probably would have given him competition have just been hurt.

Like Miles Sanders has missed time. Jayden Blue was trending in that direction. And I could see Jane Blue if he stays healthy by the end of maybe midway of the season. He's the guy, but early on, it's going to be Giovante Williams. I feel like Lipke could get half your snaps. Yeah. He's a very usable player. Yeah, they're going to use him in a bunch of different ways.

And then Cavante Turpin, I'm telling you, he's going to be part of that run game, too. Yeah, that's something we're not thinking. That's the innovation, I think. Yeah. But my thing on that is, okay, mix that in. I don't think you need to be... Not the whole boat? No, but I'm talking like that first couple of series in Philly.

They're like, we're going to establish a run game. And it's Giovante Williams, then some type of wild play to Cavante Turpin loses 10 yards, fumbles the ball, you know, stuff like that where it's like, yeah, work that in later. But I don't think you need that to be your established run game early on. I think that has to be your change-up. Not so horny on offense. So what's your bit here? You stay in an Airbnb or a hotel?

Doing the hotel, getting the Marriott Point, so it's been good. I did the Airbnb last year. A rider, do love him. him some points i mean 27 nights i'm trying to get i'm trying to get these points i'm not joking i would have stayed in a thousand oaks uh to be in a marriott as opposed to i i respect it i mean i really would i mean for four weeks i'll do it do they have a yogurt at the continental breakfast that's important no i'm not a morning person at all oh you're not this is probably the earliest that i'm ever the writers i mean i live at i live at those like shops of legacy just so i can just jump in my car

and be at the star with like, you know, 8, 10 minutes. I'm not a early morning person at all. All right. Do you Tim Robinson fan? No. The comedian? I think you should leave. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I know what it is, but no. Oh, he's just become the mascot of the lions over the last couple of years. Oh, yeah, I know that is. I know this. I'm sorry, I've got to go. I apologize. Okay.

Yeah. I'm kind of waiting for you to get up for five minutes. There goes. Thank you. Thanks for the energy. John Machota. John Machota from the Athletic. Cowboys' one-star podcast, the athletic.

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it's qualus gc.com 817 5009008 put the roof on the den put the roof on blake's home which i've never seen it's qualis gc.com all right since we were talking shoddy i have a little shoddy audio for you shoddyo not a ton but like to cover all the press conferences that happen out here so this is yesterday the press conference started with you know there's sports funny and there's just types of comedy and there is something called press conference comedy and here we go hi hi wait what are we doing this is where the press conference started I know I'm the same yes okay hi hi hi he's not ready fall start delay a game oh god dude yeah for sure Wait, let me tell you what that.

That is from the makers of, oh, you're having your second kid, man-to-man, no more zone, or whatever. Absolutely. If I had a dollar. There is no doubt he has said that. Hey, Paul start. False start, delay a game. Back them up. Yeah, for sure.

Discipline. Discipline. Calvin Watkins. Okay, now we'll start. Hi. That was excellent. Hi. He's talking about George Pickens.

any time he talks about GP. Free throws. I think, you know, from the time that we got George and we went into my office and spent some time together and shot some free throws and just talked and got to know each other. That's right. And spent some time together and shot some free throws and just talked and got to know each other.

Like I should just, yeah, give you a quiz on what's he going to say when he mentions this guy? God, it feels like every single one of these interactions that he has with the players, in my head, it feels like a PSA. You know, like a boys' club type thing? And I was like, yeah, I guess. I'll shoot free throws with you.

It's just weird. Like, I'm an adult. I'm not 12. He said a couple things that I found. Hey, little champion. He was talking about the wide receiver room. You know, we were just talking about George Pickens and the great free throws that you could shoot with him.

But is this a little? Well, like, don't, you know, when I like to tell you, don't remember, or don't forget what Winston Wolf once said. You know, you just don't want to do it just yet. Let's just not get too excited yet. I know Shottie has already showed us, he said our staff will get raided. We're going to not, I mean, it's very Trumpian or Charlie Sheenian. It's winning, we're going to do so much winning.

It'll be tired of all the winning. It'll be ridiculous all this winning. And they're just going to raid all my staff. So I'm actually right now interviewing people for next year because I know Clayton Adams will probably be picked up after turning around this offense. Anyway, he's talking about junior Adams. Relation to Clayton?

No. Oh, okay. This is a different shade of skin? Everyone has a different shade of skin. Mine's different than yours. Yours is different than Blake's. But what's the tell? Is that the tell, though?

Okay. Yeah. That would be a good one. Anyway, I think we're getting ahead of ourselves with Junior Adams. You tell me after you hear this. And Junior Adams has done an amazing job of building the culture of his room. And that's something to be talked about. He's the wide receiver coach.

Of course, you have C.D. Lamb and George Pickens and then a bunch of guys that you don't know who they are. And that's something to be talked about. Because, you know, there's certain rooms where it's like you got personalities and people like, you know, superstars, like sometimes they don't always get along. It happens in quarterback room. It happens in defensive line rooms.

It happens in a lot of rooms, but juniors built an amazing culture in that room where guys really just want to win and have success and they don't really care who gets the credit. It's that last part there. Junior's built an amazing culture in that room where guys really just want to win and have success and they don't really care who gets the credit. That is certainly the goal, but are we allowed to say that before they've played pre-season? season game number two, neither of those guys have played, the guys that were, we're not worried about the culture of everyone else. Like, he has built that room. No one cares who gets the credit.

Okay. Hey. Let's just want, let's get five weeks go by and see George Pickens with seven catches. Quick example. We're out here to practice the other day and C.D. C.D. drops a ball and next, next, next snap. Jalen Tober comes through, catches a big pass. The crowd's cheering. CD, not even mad about it. Didn't, didn't yell at the fans. for cheering for Jalen Toble, would you share the credit out here? Like, what are they going to get mad about here? Reps? Right.

They're placing line at the cafeteria. Like, what is there? That's what I mean. I just think, let's just slow down on some of this stuff, Shottie. Some of this stuff. He sometimes will answer a question by asking a question. I'll give you a few of them. None of these are the classic.

Because he, the classic is what we're looking for, which is, what are we looking for? Him to ask himself a question. Does he do it all the time? He doesn't. You know, it's, you've got to follow it up with two questions. He doesn't have any doubles, but I'll give you the few that he had yesterday. We need to be present. We need to stay in the moment.

Bingo. Hour 45 today, two hours tomorrow. And, you know, are there distractions about going home? Yeah, probably. but at the end of the day, yeah, he's got to move. He's got to make plays. He's got to extend plays. Can we run them?

Sure. You know, we'll run them. I'm not real big on titles. I think titles should be earned and not given, and this is year one. And so will we have an assistant head coach next year, maybe? That's very funny, but also it's very interesting. Well, let me get back to that just in a second, because here, I know where you're going. we need not so much of uh he's kind of going to evaluate himself okay

the best teachers in this game oh and this is also real obvious man stuff but we can listen to the whole thing the best teachers in this game are players you know i mean i see myself as an elite teacher but like oh okay elite dude imagine like in a not deprecating one way. It's like when Dak was like, I'm an elite Googler. Right. I'm an elite. Boy, what do I do elite?

I can tell you one thing you do elite. What's that? Completely ignore the fact that you have the entire bottom floor of the house, which, you know, you'd think means I have a kitchen, which you would think mean you don't have to microwave your broccoli on our floor ever. You did it again? You were elite at making your broccoli our problem. them. You know, I mean, I see myself as an elite teacher, but like, I don't play the game. The guys that play the game on in between the white lines, there's things that they can, you know, give to our younger players that are as impactful or more impactful than some of the things that I say.

Oh, really? Really, you think some of the younger players might rather listen to Trayvon Diggs. Right. Than what you're saying about coverage. Interesting. I would have never thought that, especially coming from an elite teacher. That's one of the things I do is empower my guys. Put that on the card.

He's going to say that at some point. Okay, so let's go back to this because it's going to lead to another thing that you want to talk about. So remember when he said... I'm not real big on titles. I think titles should be earned and not given, and this is year one. And so will we have an assistant head coach next year, maybe? Okay, so he's still talking about assistant head coach, and this is where I think he's holding the

the possibility of an assistant head coach feels like he's holding him to a higher standard than he's held to. My belief is that titles, if someone's named the assistant head coach, they should have earned that, you know? You have to earn that. Okay, so when you...

Was he assistant head coach to McCarthy? Almost certainly. And if not to McCarthy, somewhere else. You know, that feels like his bid. You have to earn that by having your dad, be a legendary. Now I'm going to be Colms over here in the Hannity and Colms where the show is built for you to just bodybag me because the Cowboys continue to do things that make it easy.

If you look at what it takes to get hired in the NFL, how many times do you feel like this guy earned it? Well, you know where he did? Probably half the time. What is his number one thing? What he thinks about how to even get these players to play for him or to play together. What is the number one thing he thinks? He thinks it's about relationships.

Right. And he's an elite relationship guy, kind of like we heard about Nico, which is odd. But it feels like he is a gargarius dude, a friendly dude, and you could see. see how Jerry Jones would be pretty comfortable with him in a room and saying, yeah, I like this guy to be around me. Yes. I don't need someone coming in to be telling me I'm not doing things the way it should be done. 100% he checks the main box and really none of the other boxes matter.

Either you're able to listen to him or make him feel like you're listening to him, right? But the issue is he also spent like 25 years on NFL staffs. And I feel like sometimes you guys act like that didn't happen. Yeah. But what of significance do you do in those 25 years? Okay, but this is what I'm saying is that what would it have taken? Like I'm not saying he's qualified to be the head coach of the Cowboys in 2025. He did not have the resume for that.

But guys get hired with pretty half-ass X's and O's resumes and no coaching experience at this level all the time. Like I think he knows how to run. the organization. I have no... No coaching experience at this level? What are we saying here? Well, but like look at Liam Cohen who got hired... Like head coaching experience, right?

But they're innovators. They're young. Yes, so my question is, at this level, are you certain that's better? Because I think you need the whole package. And that's why a guy like McCarthy actually has some appeal. You know, this is the way you used to do it.

Andy Reid, whatever. But like, can Mike McDaniel pull it off? Cliff couldn't. so some of them can he's definitely not that and you'd prefer to have that but right now they have a guy who i think can keep the train on the tracks because he's been around forever they were never going to hire somebody who is a little bit risky now the other part of your audio to cut against my own argument is uh yeah i find it uh a bit ironic that a guy who for a lot of his career has had the title of offensive coordinator

without calling plays. It's like, I'm not a big titles guy. You know, I mean, it's just whatever. I mean, yeah, well, that's because you've routinely carried a title that doesn't indicate your job. That's interesting. In fact, over his offensive assistant indicates your job. Like,

I don't know that I've ever seen a resume where a guy's been an OC and called less plays. But to John's point, that is what they sold. Like, they looked at the last few years, and jerry's in meetings every week we've seen it on hard knocks we've seen it on the shows i've heard it from people he's here right we know that jerry's in meetings he said in meetings for three

years with mccarthy and was shoddy there and over time was like i think i like what this guy's selling and and and the it's reverse right because in our mind we're like i think you hire him to babysit this thing but they got convinced on him How much... 50 whatever years old that he's... It's hard to say this because it feels like they're just dripping with money, but how much do you think financially was a concern? Because he's sitting there talking to him.

He knows I want you to call plays, no matter who I bring in. Now, right there, that's a flawed wadus to go into your off-season. But we've seen him do this before. He knew that he hired Jason Garrett before Wade Phillips. So the head coach didn't really have any say who's running things here. He's done this many, many times. But he's talking to him. He's thinking, I want you to be the play caller.

And then like, hmm, maybe you should just be head coach too. Hmm, I could just pay one salary for them both. Because an elite play caller might be a few million dollars. And an elite coach might be $10 million. What if I could get them both for that lower price? Yeah. And as has been in the news, certain verticals of news, I guess, recently, that's part of control.

He can't pay somebody $12 million because people who make $12 million will tell you to fuck yourself. But somebody who makes three, you know, the salary is part of being like, hey, you need me, you really need me. And so that's part of it, but I don't think they're broke. I mean, you'll hear like, oh, Comstock's not doing well, this, that, whatever. It's not the broke part. It's the philosophical thing. He could have every dollar in the world, and he doesn't want to pay Brian Schottenheimer a lot while he's also paying Mike.

Or they're not paying McCarthy, right? It's just that he doesn't. I don't think he wants to pay a head coach a lot of money because that indicates power. And it doesn't have anything to do with, like, they don't have the money to do it. It's $5 million a year extra. That's, again, a rounding error for them. Well, and I wondered that about the, in an uncapped situation. In the McCarthy era,

Did he not want to pay a coach to not be here? That I do believe, and I think that's also philosophical, and just a, he got rich somehow. And it wasn't by just being super, I'm going to throw my money everywhere no matter what. No, he's a fantastic businessman. Let me see something. I've been marking stuff on Twitter all week.

But Jimmy Johnson had kind of a backhanded tweet. Okay. And it was after the premiere. The premiere. He says, give Jerry credit. He is a tireless worker, has great passion, and is the finest marketer and businessman I've ever known. Yeah. You're saying it without saying it.

What are you not saying? Right. Sure. He's the finest businessman and a great marketer. Jimmy Johnson. And that's exactly what he is. Over ready? Um, I don't think so.

I think just building that team that he did build, and I've seen him kind of going, I've followed him on Twitter a little bit. He's going back and forth with some people calling him overrated and saying, hey, you sucked with the Dolphins. He's like, I don't know, made the playoffs two out of three years. How many times had they been in the playoffs lately? That's a good point. That is a point.

He certainly, I mean, he's the guy that built that team. Yeah. I mean, and Herschel Walker. but yeah and engineered the Hershal Walker thing yeah but can you do you feel like he's overrated

I don't know I don't I mostly said that to troll and to support Jerry for some weird reason no I do think that if it were another team he would not be regarded this way I think the cowboy thing

has added a lot of shine the time that it was but let's be honest everything that they accomplished was before the salary cap So if we look at Jerry and we're like, man, this guy, all of his success came when the rules were different and he could just spend his way out of this, I think it invalidates a lot of what Jerry did. I don't think it invalidates all of what Jimmy did, because Jimmy's clearly, you know, from a, go ahead. Well, they didn't really spend their way out, because there wasn't full free agency.

So it wasn't baseball without a salary cap. It was not. He wasn't just. But their economic advantage did provide an advantage. Yeah. Not as much as if it were, you know, the Premier League or baseball. But building a roster has taken a lot more skill and work since basically 1996. That's the last time they won anything.

And so, you know, Jimmy. The second best record in the NFL for the years 2020. I just, Jimmy, Jimmy is the rare coach who didn't do it very long, who we consider like an all-time great. no yeah i'm trying to think i know madden had a very short run he probably probably doesn't make the hall of fame though without the broadcasting the broadcasting and the game and everything and the impact on football uh jimmy yes but that was quite i mean you can kind of say he single-handedly built the team of the 90s so like that might should get you in the hall of fame that's a good point

because they do refer to that. It's the whole decade, and so much so that his team could win with other coaches later, like they were that good. I want to promote the Brandon Aubrey Show song contest. So this year we're going to have a Brandon Aubrey show every week, just like we did last year. And we have a sponsor with that now, Community Mechanical.

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since it was all the rage during Sundays. Look at this idiot. Look at her first pitch. What happened? Let's see. Do you think your score card came back good? I don't know. I just know I haven't heard it from you and if it was like the worst ever, you would have made an open for it and we would have a graphic

on Instagram. She only does one every five days, right? Four days. So you're not the home played ump every game. No, from that game, I have not heard the report. Oh, the fine, you heard it during the game. Oh, during the game. I had an alert set up. During the game, Blake was like, dude, look at this bitch. After pitch two, she had a 50% rate. Well, yeah. Yeah, she's going viral, and I was over here thinking, dude, people are going to start betting on this, like Angel Reese and taking the unders on her accuracy. So what

was the tally? So of the 15 games that day, she was the third worst. No, I had hope there, for a minute. I would rather say she was the 13th best. Sure, if you wanted to go that route. But yeah, not a great start to the game. She's young. Is that how everyone's taking it? Rookie umpire?

No. Takes the diamond for the first time to rock his applause. Yeah, your rookie head coach is going to make some problems. Your rookie players are going to... That's probably what everyone is saying. These misses are pretty far outside of the box. Dude, Raymond had me dying last night. Dave Raymond when he said,

and somebody from the Diamondbacks was just out of control, and he's like, these misses, they are not competitive. Last night was the most boring baseball game I think I've ever watched in my life. What about the fan that was yelling? That was sick, and to be there live for it was amazing, and to know that Dave. So what was going on? Fire Nico guy? Yeah, dude, and I don't know where that mic is positioned.

I'm sure some of our buddies over there could tell us, but it was clearly in a spot where short of walking over to the guy and telling him he had to leave the game, this could not be stopped. Like, he was in a spot where they had to leave that mic open. There was no other option. And he started in what, the eighth? Did this affect the players on the field? Okay, I didn't do any research on this to follow up.

But I feel like he, Robert Garcia, like, retired the side. Or who was it? It was Sean, it might have been when. But whoever it was. Oh, yeah. No, Garcia did the... Jesus, dude. We had a lot of fun watching baseball last night.

The worst pitching fielding air I've ever seen, Dan. Robert Garcia just kind of spazzed out and picked up a ball backhanded, running away from first base. And rather than stop or turn around, just sort of optioned through it to the outfield. Well, at first it was a... comebacker that was pretty easy. It hit his glove, and then he dropped it and kicked it. So we had to run a second to get it, and then, yeah, tried to flip it behind him. It was horrible. Very funny. But, yeah, so I don't think the, I don't think Arizona got a base runner while Fire Niko was going on. He just mowed down the side. Yeah. And it was electric because, like, oh, he's, you know, keep it going.

He did. Next inning. He's right back. Because you're thinking, all right, they certainly got to him in the break. How did he not start until the 8th? What are we doing here? We were watching. I don't... Okay. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it was a close game.

It was a tie game, and you just know you're listening to Dave Raymond up there try. So hard to power through this. And even David Murphy's having to cut his mic off because he's laughing. Was Dave Raymond mentioning it? No. He did towards the end. Okay. I got up a couple times, but yeah.

What did he say? Just kind of hand wave at it a little like, oh, okay, this guy's here. It wasn't overt, but he did say something about it. It was fun. Did that help propel the Rangers onto victory? No, and in fact... We need a savior today, boys. I think our reliever was on the way to an immaculate inning or something,

and I think Dave did say, well, he's pitching pretty good, and then gave up a home run that went into the second deck. So Dave Raymond jinxed it. A little bit. He lost the game for the Rangers. Yeah. What's your other football? Oh, my other thing was just going to be looking at Jalen Tolbert, I believe.

Like, what do you think of him? Failed. Is it? Yeah. Okay, because... Completely failed and was failed out of college. Because I... I don't know if he's failed.

He's serviceable. I'll tell you, I'll put it like this. He can be serviceable now. But in a normal order of things... So as a third receiver? You like him. As a third receiver with two number ones. See, I think a bit like this, right?

I used to drive me crazy and people were like, that guy couldn't be the second best player on an NBA championship team. I'm like, well, doesn't who the first and third best players are impact that quite a bit? But for some reason, people don't talk like that. You can be a three on a team and be like, okay, so let's imagine it like this. Your normal one, give him a 10, your normal 2, give him an 8, your normal 3, give him a 5. I think Jalen Tolbert's a five, maybe a four. And so I think he could be a decent number three on a team that has like a 10 and a 10 or a 10 and a 9.

But no, I think on a team with a 10 and a 5. If you have Kelsey and Prime Kelsey or something. Right. It just fits. I mean, CD was a first round pick. Pickens was a second round pick. Tolbert was a third. I mean, that's just kind of the order of this, right?

I mean, that's one way to think of it. I think a lot of times if you take a receiver in the third round, you're hoping that guy can. be a two because a lot of times guys who are taking in the not drafted can be a three if you really get after you know i mean that's just but i have no problem with the way they've expended capital on it i just don't i think he is as replacement level as replacement level gets and he had seven touchdowns last year do not ever quote that statistic again to me in the game winner in pittsburg he did save dacks save dax bacon that was a horrible throw No, I don't think he's

I think he's a completely 0.0 replacement. Okay. Are you looking for a big ear from him? I don't know. I'll tell you this. I'm just, the wide receiver room is very intriguing to me. Definitely.

I really think George Pickens could become a problem if he's not getting touches because he's, this is his contract year. So he needs to have a big year. Okay. well let me solve this problem for you out of necessity they don't have a running back they're tied in they just paid is fine they Jalen Tolbert is their third wide receiver George Pickens is going to get a lot of touches and it's almost there's almost no way

that if he's not that they're not really good right if he's only getting four or five catches a game, and it's like, dude, I almost spoogeed watching him completed. The deep ball from Pickens is we haven't had that in a long time. I don't know what it would have been. Maybe Des, but that's a different level. And if he's getting four or five of those games, but he's averaging 80 yards and they're 10 and 3, you really think that's going to be a problem? Because I don't.

If he's averaging 80 yards a game, that will not be a problem. That's a lot. I just, well, okay, but I don't think he's going to be getting a high volume. I think that's what CD's for But I don't know I just yeah he's a deep threat I feel like Junior Adams has built Kind of a room

The CD doesn't care And neither does George Yeah they just told you that How many touches he gets I'm not Yeah I'm not worried about that They got way bigger problems Way bigger problems

Any other sports of the day Oh I do have things that are back Oh yeah So what's our plan here for how we're running today's show Do you want to do some Jake Field Trip Talk?

Jake's No I just I'm letting you decide No I'm letting you decide I mean I'll do Yeah I mean whatever Okay but well let's start with things that are back because it is

this is the first one, right, that we've seen? Do you know it's back, Blake? No. Isn't it Midland? Yeah. Oh. Midland Lee is back. They voted to change the name back.

Four three. Sam Williams, we're supposed to talk to him later for tomorrow's show. Went to a high school called for Robert E. Lee. So I wonder what, if that's still the... You can quiz. him on that we can ask him about that what's it like uh but i guess i did we have this in the pool yeah yeah yeah i did we have some renames yeah we're going back to we've we've done back to uh like some of the forts no yeah but i feel like as soon as gulf of mexico happened we started looking

around for like uh what else are we doing here and you knew that the the memorials would be one of them um can i do one thing for you real quick on our our evening last night so we watched the rangers game um we watched i don't know how you guys beat me home by the way we i left the restaurant because you walk slow i might have eaten a little candy that all of a sudden affected me and i'm like i got to leave this restaurant did bail with a rip cord like and you guys had not been served food yet and so i started walking home and i got home and i opened the door and was like god damn blake left the door open he didn't lock it i even mentioned to him locked the door i locked it and then i walked in and you guys were all in there watching TV.

I'm like, how the hell did that happen? Well, Clayton and I were really the only ones that ate like a real meal, and we don't mess around. No. We had our two roles when we got up and we left. And then a couple pieces of mine. So not a lot of sitting around talking, fellowship? Me and Clayton?

Yeah. No. You guys don't talk to you. We're there to eat. Okay. We took down our two lobster dynamines and paid and left. It was a big night of entertainment, which we will cover in the news later. It's absolutely incredible.

There's a police chase every night. It's so good. We watched it together. We're going to break that down. A listener, shout out to Jared, came by. I watched the Mark Maren special last night that people are talking. Is it any good? Really long.

Really long. I'm not a Mark Maren. I love his interviews and his interview style. Yeah, I was surprised to hear you and Ethan Strauss say that you weren't really familiar with his comedy. Before he started the podcast, I had never heard of him. That's crazy to me. And I know I was like into a specific type of comedy central 30-minute stand-up, but I was all over that.

Yeah, I had never seen him or heard of him. But then I always hated the first 10 or 15 minutes of his podcast because it was just him. And then he'd get someone in there and start doing some therapy speak and stuff. It was really cool. They'd open up. And this is the early days of podcasting. and like hearing red on there was a really cool one do you remember that red miller was on there oh i don't even i do not remember that i should go back i feel like yeah um but anyway i thought

he delivered and then yes then i did finally go search some of his comedy and i'm like well this is why i don't like that first 15 minutes that's i don't like it at all i uh i always just like him and david cross kind of had the same sort of vibe to me um back in the day and yeah i i thought it was good but very long and also you know he's he's uh he's a little bit of why hillary lost oh yeah um but so yeah the other thing we did i have no idea why it took us this long to get to this point but one of my favorite things in media is local commercials right anybody any sports fan in america the camera commercial for the the store in arlington like the local commercials the lawyers always have the best jingles they're always there's just crazy like there's

a random hot like you did they i'm assuming cleveland when you were growing up watching indians games this is all that was on was just these shitty commercials yeah then it would run over and over and over over and so you get to know them like think of norm and the rodney anderson ad uh but when you work at a radio station or a tv station by no fault of theirs it's just the way it's set up you can't just like talk shit about that you can't even say these are great because they're like oh you i mean that's then another person's upset you didn't say theirs was right and i get that but now like of course we i want to be doing like monthly rankings like let's see what we got let's ben abbott changes his theme like every two months i want to make sure you guys are aware

associates don't let an accident wreck your life hello ben so uh we're talking about this last night and Clayton was like, hell yeah. Those are the nicest. We've got the best prices at flooring direct.com slash DZ. FlooringDirectDefW.com slash DZ. There you go. So car commercials are big, car dealership commercials is your half the market share here. Been some great ones over the years. And Clayton was like, somehow I brought up Clay Cooley.

And he's like, have you ever seen the one with his sons? And I'm like, oh, yeah, I've seen the one with his sons. He's got two sons. He started putting them in the commercials when they were like 16. He's like, yeah, have you ever seen the ones where they speak Spanish? I was like, no, but I'm very interested. So there's like a million of these on YouTube. He got his kids like fully immersed.

Hello. Amiguel, I'm Clay Cooley. He's got like a 17-year-old kid. Listen to that's Spanish. Sounds very good. Normally, in an auto new is the reimbals of a client just write it to the edge. So you just get your millionaire car dealer owner and you're like, over my dead body

or my kid's not going to know Spanish. Like that's an inversion in Spanish. This kid looks like he's 17, he's in his dad's suit. It sounds like he knows what he's saying, like he's not just reading it. Yeah, exactly. Anybody's talking like a car dealer with his hands. This is like 12 years old. Just watch how it is.

Vive el Swayno. Americano. And there's a bunch of those. It's just great. I think it's a treasure trove for us. Americano. And there's one where he's like, Me, Kasa, Sue Kasser.

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Does it get bigger? Big time. What? There's Ticestero on hi today. I don't know. So he starts talking last night. He's like, hey, guys, Angela. And I'm like, what are we doing?

I was just giving you a little taste. Yeah, it was a tasty taste. But first, I don't know if you heard this this morning or not, but I thought we had an earthquake. And, like, I was laying in bed, so I didn't quite, like, feel the shake of the earthquake, but it just sounded like it. Wow, what time?

Was it me just opening the door? I'm a late sleeper's, like, 7 a.m. local and then like it just got bras up grinding yeah i know you're a grinder me nathan yeah i know and then it like see the text i think the more i woke up the more the sound like finalized into like a boom boom boom boom and i realized it wasn't an earthquake it was just jake walking down the hall he's well since he's been on that trt he uh why do you walks why do you walk with authority i don't know but it's not the first time i've heard it I just assumed my wife was a bitch.

Are you just a big lumbering? I'm like, there's no, I'm just walking. You just walk with attitude. But for me, for me, like, I get so, I walk around my house and I'm like, I literally can't walk here. I'm not allowed to walk in the house without being like, what are you doing? And now you're telling me Blake's up my ass about it too on the road? Why do you walk so hard? I don't even know what you're talking about.

Jake's been my alarm clock. I just, what is that even mean? Jake is the alarm clock for everybody? That's insane. I'm not that big of a person. Because you can hear like a door open and someone slide through. I'm like, that's probably mad or Clayton. But I know when Jake was coming. Well, I'm sorry. Last year it was the kettlebells.

Now I can't even walk. It's the same sound. Cat walk around the house on my toes. You don't have to do, you don't have to dance prance around. You just lead with your heel into the ground. So yeah, I got to, I was at my computer last night and I got an email because I see when transactions go through on the card and this one said declined because he's been up against it and uh it's now pause uh he's up against it even on

does he have the second amount he began the month or when i got in the card last week like august 6th something he had 150 bucks on the card last week yeah because he had saved 50 from the prior month so when he lost the card right he didn't stop spending he lost the card he'd been being good about it give him a little credit He lost the car. Okay. He's not good about it. Okay.

So it said, decline transaction, Timu. Timu? He was online shopping. This is a part he told us last night. I'm like, do not say another word. This guy is out here ordering knockoff Amazon. Yeah, I don't know what. And it got off to a promising start because he said he bought like a portable charger for his inhaler.

That was at Lowe's. Yeah. And so I was like, wow, maybe he's, this extra money is, is doing him well, and it's, it's not. In fact, one charge I wanted to bring it to you, Jake, he went to a creamery downtown, like an upscale ice cream. No. And the charge for $12, I think he got a large with like a bunch of toppings on it. What's, you can tell it's like a why Hillary lost ice cream place? Yes.

Oh, no. dude but yeah when I saw the T-Mu charge 15 bucks obviously there's no way for you to figure out what it was no it just has declined

because I'll tell you like are you aware of T-Mood Dan what is it it's just like an online shot it's Chinese I think online shopping and like we bought it Rob bought a bunch of stuff you can get deals

but it's you know I mean it's online shopping but my first thought was that he was just maybe getting like some curtains or like a, I don't know, like a blanket you could put around or something. Get that video Clayton of the homeless guy from last night's news. I mean, he ordered utilitarian items at Lowe's, right? So I don't think we should just assume his Timo purchased is just him dicking around. But we're watching the news last night. Obviously, you know out here in L.A., you're going to hear a lot about the homeless problem.

Much like you hear about it everywhere. I think the president is... Which makes me happy because, as I told you, when I was a kid, I'd see a homeless guy in Cleveland or something. I'd be like, why don't they just start walking west? Yeah. Because I always dreamed of living West. And I'm like, if I was a homeless guy, I would walk.

I think it's... What do I have to do all day? I'll get there eventually. Who cares? You'd say, well, yeah, but they'd be in the element. Yeah. Well, he's laying there in Cleveland on the Fifth Avenue. Why didn't he walk that way and just lay wherever you?

I think it says a lot about living in Cleveland that even the idea of being homeless on the West Coast is actually maybe better than even being in Cleveland. If you're going to be outside, why be laying in the cold with a losing team? Yeah, well, we're talking. Okay, so. Yeah, yeah. Out here is a problem, but it's also a little more, you know, woke culture, right? So out here, rather than just being like, what do we do at home? Like, get off the street, criminal, right?

Get out of here. that we're rounding you up out here they have to like celebrate them is going viral after building a three-story tree house later torn down by a thorns now you can see the tree house here

before it was torn down it was reportedly built using scavenged materials from a nearby homeless encampment the tree house was said to include a mezzanine and an enclosed place to sleep like the gems a new tree house is currently being built

started off slowly a of the ladder and then you started seeing a tarp going over it and then you see a homeless guy up there within the next week or two he had a house so he lived up there quite a while he was up there for a while but uh working out a full blown house he had everything you needed that would be jake the treehouse builder was not there when we were there so we could not speak with him we've reached out to the mayor's office but have not heard back yeah out here they're like innovating and they're like well look at this one he achieved a little something it's like at home Like Dale Hansen brings you, like, the high school athlete of the week and give you their GPA.

Here they have the homeless. Let's get the positive homeless story of the week. This one didn't beat someone with a golf club. Anyways, what were we talking about before homeless people? I have some viewer mail for you. Let's do it. Would you like to have this brought to us by fairlease.org? You know, you might be thinking.

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And put the dumb zone thing in there, right? The thing, please. Oh, yeah, wait a minute. Like the drop-down menu or something. I don't know. It's the internet. Uncle hot mail, look at me. Is there an email in your box for me?

Where's my viewer mail? First things first. In yesterday's stereotyping, profiling, slash racism, I believe Daniel Kaluya, not Lakeith Stanfield, has joined a cult. they're in a lot of movies together we're talking about lekeith stanfield they're at least in one movie together i feel like i've seen him in a couple more than just what are you thinking get out yeah no there's other stuff together i just think you're thinking there's lots of black people in movies since you've misrepresented them yesterday so i just want to let you know that not every

black person is one of those two noted noted indeed some of them are junior adams i'll give you uh You shut up. I'll give you another one that just, quote, quote, came across my timeline. Somebody in baseball Twitter figured out that Rugnett-Odoer's brother is named Rugnett-Odoer and that their other brother is their other brother's name Rugnett-Odor and that their dad's name is Ruggnett. They're just learning this now? Yeah, yeah. You must love it.

That took off on Twitter. And, you know, for me, I was just like, yeah, keep reading. There's a little more. It's going to get good. find your own advantage boy these guys love each other they absolutely love each other so i was reading the replies and uh you know we've always heard about latin players and their ages and you never really know right like albert poohol's who knows that was one that i always remember growing up was like that's you have no i i think he's four years older than they say he is so i was

reading the replies and uh somebody brought up like four other cases of this of the same name for guys who had been in baseball systems and a dude was like yeah you just give the best one the youngest birth certificate this has been happening for forever i never knew that's why they were doing that so you think rugned's name is actually not rougnett maybe it's steve no his name is rugnett on his birth certificate yes now there's probably a nickname his mom calls him and calls the other rugned something else but they have four So if you're a Tiger Woods dad type, you want to raise a baseball player, you'll name all your kids the same thing. It probably helps if you can be in a country with shaky record keeping, yeah, but that's the thing.

We're not, and you're going to go work in another country? Yeah. So that's why they do it. Is it whichever one of these kid pops, he's 17, even if he's 20. Interesting. And then, yeah, you look it up and there's, I mean, I don't know, but there are four or five other kids. cases of two guys, at least two brothers, having the exact same name from Latin America. It's usually two.

Just increase the odds a little bit. We talked about Robert Lee High School, Midland Lee High School was back. James emails and says, Dodgeball is back in Godly ISD. Send a few pictures as well. Nice. They do dodgeball now. I think he works there. I got one from Mark and Tulsa.

I need a ruling. Heard a guy at H.E.B. Point to these and ask his wife this. The item in question was a rotissory chicken. You see up there by the front. The guy said, babe, do we want a tissy? A tissy. Matt Grimm approves.

Well, he seems like a tissy guy for the road. If you have a tissy, you definitely earlier ate brecky. yeah right babe you want a tissy did you do the other one from mark from Tulsa the diaper bag go ahead I didn't know if you did it last week or not

but we had talked about leaving surveys for restaurants that piss us off and some of it is you might get a little free food on the back end but sometimes these people need to know that they suck well he did this a few weeks ago my wife myself and our one year old were at a local counter serve I've had a terrible experience.

Receit came with a survey, so I took full advantage to light them up. He ended it with, I would give you zero stars if it was an option. Got back to our house and my wife asked, where's the diaper bag? Fast forward, they left it there. He gets there. The cashier says, are you Mark?

Which he says, yeah. And she says, here's your diaper bag, but my manager wants to speak with you. And at this point, he knows they've read the survey. Manager, walk me back. if you buck, Mark. Manager walked me to the back of the restaurant. As she was almost in tears,

proceeded to tell me how she just got a call from her boss's boss regarding the survey and was in quite a bit of trouble. Felt really bad, but probably won't do the flame them on the online survey again. I will instead go to Google reviews where it actually causes them to lose sales and go out of business.

Mark from Tulsa. No, I don't want to see the other side of it. I know. That's a tough part. You got to be about it. You've got to be willing to tell somebody to their face. I think it sucks, and you should probably lose money over it. That's what you're saying.

That's what you're implying. We had a, speaking of baseball Twitter, we have a Roseanne submission from a former player who really accelerated this process. But did you see the picture going around of Johnny Damon? Yes. Who's on your screen now? Yeah.

Oh, wow. It's a tough scene. Is that a Roseanne? Yes, it is Yeah, you're right I don't know why Definitely That from Alex

It's just a really good-looking Roseanne Like it's possible to be a hot Roseanne Johnny Damon is still a good-looking guy I just got an email from Dawson That must really hurt the The Red Sox fan to see him wearing that Yankees thing now It was a big deal when he left

I know I put a picture in there for a future I just put one in there Says Kara Dawson, listening to the show right now, has already emailed something very long here. He's a cowboy fan from the 80s and 90s, highlighting the structure of the league at that time, the Cowboys had basically no economic advantage. Like you were saying, hey, they didn't have full free agency, and he's just highlighting that Plan B free agency?

Is that something people used to say, right? That was when, yes, free agency first kind of, the first toe dip into free agency. protect like most of the roster yeah yeah okay so that's a bad point and i won't make it again jerry's awesome oh i didn't know we're doing cowboy email because i got one for you jerry and jimmy um yeah i was just wondering what i'm glad to learn i also have to pee really bad again yes dude do your cowboy email i just want you guys to know if i get up and run off why um yeah pee in your water bottle if you're about it do you want us to just time you let's time you

hold on who's got a thing tell me one can you put a timer yeah is it from headset off or can I go to the edge and you start it then well I like when you edge so go to the edge do a little edging oh yeah get us right there you ready all right go let's see how long it takes Jake

to go to the bathroom and I can mention here that Kelby emailed and said Clayton is a liar I have looked on YouTube substack et cetera for multiple days can you just provide a link to buy tickets for the Rangers game

on September 10th? It's on there. From Kelby Man says couldn't find the link. Where's the link? Well I know it's in our YouTube info for every live stream and then the day we talked about it,

I put it in the substack and Patreon email. So that day? So we have to go look back four weeks ago? Do you want me to write it down and mail it to Kelby? How else can I personalize his experience? What if it's somewhere, like what if it's on our promo codes page or something? Okay. I'm just saying, let's make this easy for people.

Okay, I'm the only one that has access to the promo codes page. Well, I don't know where the link is. I was asking you guys last week. I'll put it on the promo codes part of our website. site, dumbzone.com. Hope to see you at the game. I also have from E, I can't remember if I've asked you, but would you, yeah, September 10th, we're having a Rangers night or afternoon.

E says, I can't remember if I've asked you, but would you ever tell the story or pull the curtain back on when you almost left the ticket with Bob? Bob being a part of it, may give you pause, but do you think that'd be a good story time? Do you think that people would care to hear about that? Do you know a lot about that? Yeah, but I've heard bits like here and there from a bunch of different stories, so hearing it from front to, or beginning to end would be cool. Okay, so maybe that'll be a business Wednesday at some point.

Do you want to have Bob on? Let's book Bob. If he'll come on, I'd love to do it. I talked to Bob last week. Jake is back. The official... Huh? A minute 56.

Disappointing. The chat wants to know if you washed your hands. No, it didn't get any on me. That doesn't... That means you think your wiener's that clean? That's the part I clean every day. That's all you clean? Yeah.

That was a long pee, was the problem. And I have... Oh, this is from Kara. You guys remember Kara? She is the lady that used to date ladies. She had an adopted baby with a lady. And then she met a dude and then married him. and like a dude they've been up in the den like this must be the manliest man ever he's he's done

the opposite of the tc thing where tc had a girlfriend but then left him for a girl this uh he turned he turned her back to our team massive anyway they're cool though we've met him and carra writes how's it going her name's carra lutz hopefully well wanted to annoy you to see if you would do your old palis solid i got my master's degree in counseling psychology in 2023 i'm finally making the switch from wells effing fargo to go full-time therapist and i'd like to claim my spot as the dumb zone's official bisexual therapist that is a lane available i can help with addiction jake marital problems damn homophobia

Blake And literally any other issue That comes my way And I need all the clients I can get My number is 469-744-12 Email is Kara Lutz Therapy at gmail.com If you could tell the dumb Fs

I would greatly appreciate it But also if it's too much to ask That's understandable No rush either I know you're going to Cali Love you from Kara and then she sent a little photo thing and said look at me all official and shit i would trust her i would trust her as far as i could throw her yeah what do people say that were people

thrown people back then like a lot more well that means you would trust uh thrown do you trust do you trust dwarfs a lot more than you would trust that's what it implies boy that it just was that guy i can really trust him i would think that guy might pick my pocket walking around anytime When the time somebody wants to figure out if they can do a deal with you, they're like, let me pick you up. Gotta throw you. No, she's awesome. That's very cool. Pro therapy, dude.

I got one that's telling on me. Okay. You know, let me tell a funny story about myself. We'll do a little shoddy. I'll embarrass myself here. I'm glad you're doing this. And I think in a few minutes, Shottie will be starting his press conference. Today, when that happens,

we're going to throw it to an interview that we had yesterday with Giovante Williams. We think it was pretty good. So we're going to air that today as our break, kind of, but it won't be a break. It'll be the show. Isn't that weird? Isn't that better?

I don't know. Blake, am I up? What are you doing? Is this going to be worth it? I just want to see. Go ahead. What are we doing? We're...

Why do you need a launching point? Just play your... Dumb old stinger. Will you? You will. That's not any good, is it? What do you guys think? Start.

Will you? You will. Fake shoddy? Yeah. Let's work on it. Let's not work on it on the air, though. I want to tell you. So this guy says...

Is Dan gay? He is. Can you do a dot, dot, dot to make a longer space? Is Dan gay? We'll get back to it. Okay, sorry, but. Back to parking email. Good morning, Dan, the impaler of the IUD and finger blasters of the Ottoman Empire.

That I loved. The other day, me and my 13-year-old daughter were privy to witness from my car in the driveway at the pharmacy of Kroger. We witnessed Dan in the Wild. Okay, so it's between 4 and 5 p.m. My daughter and I are in line at the pharmacy. and I see this tall drink of water ambling from his car at entrance. There he was. Black sneakers.

Black Vourri shorts. Check. Black shirt. Check. And no hat with his bald, beautiful head basking in the hot Texas sun. I almost creamed myself when I realized who it was. South Lakes Elon. I said, that's Dan McDowell from the dumb zone.

My daughter says, is that the guy from the shirt you got? I said, yes, maybe we should park and go inside. Then all of a sudden, Dan starts to make his way back to his car. curious as to maybe he forgot something i see dan pull out his phone uh as i'm watching him he pulls it up towards his face as if he's going to take a picture i look uh to the right what may be the object of his photography prowess uh albeit the phone looked tiny in his monstrous well manicured hands uh anyway it's a brand new black tahoe that has decided they were important enough to park crossways across three parking spots.

Ooh, we got a little parking self-police over here, a little vigilante. So I was taking a picture, and then he points out that a man walked up and was going to that car, so like that I went to my car and kind of pretended to get something out of it to not want to have a confrontation. Dude, that is tough. I mean, we all do it, but you got caught just being a total pussy. Right. Right. No, I just want, and I've done this before. What are you going to do with that photo?

I don't know. I take pictures when a guy is. I've done this before, though, a guy that's parked over two lines or something. I'll just take a picture because I see myself in the future of having a cool Twitter thing that's just telling on people that are parking bed. Okay. Or something. So I have a ton of these pictures over the years. That's really weird, man. But I've never taken that next step. Like, it makes me mad. I want to do something about it.

And then I think I should do something. and then I just forget. Well, I feel like you need to marry these two things. Yeah, that is very tough for you. No coming back. His daughter's like, uh-huh. But I think you need to take the picture,

but I would be taking the picture hoping they come up so I can be like, yeah, I'm reporting your ass. To who? Obviously, no one, but you're taking the photo, so you've got some goal or aim here. I think you want them to see it. it now they're confused what are you going to do with that like i love the youtube whatever it is you can't stop it i love the youtube parking police guy or the cart shopping cart youtube guy have you

ever seen that things like it yeah the where he's wearing a cape and he'll run after people and just start videoing them why are you leaving your cart here like gets real confrontational i like that yeah is he uh maybe we should just start right wait get ahead of it a couple oh do you want to do that But before that, Dan... What do you want to talk about? Oh, what could it remind you of? It reminds me of how your... The proverbial used, doors suck.

Your closets, they suck. Yeah, but it would take me, like, forever to replace all my indoor doors. How about you say forever in a day and take that forever off? This is one day doors and closets, Bob. They're going to take care of you. They come out. They measure the doors. They've got magic 3D technology.

They do the doors right there in front of your house. Maybe out back. I don't know. That part's up to you. Buy one, get one door right now. One Day, Texas.com slash promo 30. Buy one and get two doors. Massive upgrade to your home, replacing those doors.

Maybe you're in the middle of a remodel. 50% up. You're thinking a full remodel, not what we're into. Remo. Let's do some stuff around the edges here. Get those doors replaced. Any kind of doors. hinged, bifold, sliding.

What are some other types of doors there, Dan? Can you get the Dolorean door? Get Ferrari doors on your guest bath at One DayTexis.com slash promo 30 940-969-47-90. These are beautiful doors. They do it quick. They do it affordably at One-DayTexis.com slash promo 30. Okay, so we'll throw it to our pre-recorded interview that we did yesterday.

after practice, and, you know, then we'll come back and do some stuff. Dan's going to get to the bottom of this. What? I don't know. All right. Well, joining us now in the tent. We'll say it's brought to us by Flooring Direct DFW. Who's our camp sponsor.

It is the great Giovante Williams. Yay! Appreciate y'all having me. Appreciate it. What is the most famous person, most famous player to wear? number 33 for the Cowboys. Tony Dorset, right? Okay.

Yeah. I just didn't know. Some guys don't know. Did you know before you got here? Before I got here, I didn't know, but as soon as I got the number, I found out real quick. Okay. Yeah. Did you see the Ricky Bobby clip recently?

No, what happened? You know what that is? No. Okay. Well, we were hearing Shottie was talking during the press conference saying that he swore during the post-game prayer Some guys didn't know why I didn't know that's what the movie was called But yeah, I've seen it

The dude from Elf Will Ferrell Will Ferrell, yeah, yeah I know he's talking about it So he did play that for you guys? Yeah, he played in the team meeting Yep So he had to like explain

Why did I swear during? Yeah Okay He said he banned He banned from post-game period or no though There you go Okay This is, it's weird for you

To have another head coach Four years in the league Five head coaches They're now, is this now six? Wait. Name all your head coaches. I have Vic Fangio. I had Nathaniel Hackett, Sean Payton, and not four.

That's my fourth one. Well, there was, I just read on Pro Football Reference. Jerry Roosberg. There was an interim. Oh, yeah, for like two games at the end of the season. Was he real memorable, apparently, for you? I really, nah, it's because that's the same year I told my ACL, so I wasn't really in the building that whole season. I told my ACL the fourth game, and after that, I was just rehabbing.

So I wasn't really in the building. So you don't come in the building when you're doing it? I mean, you do, but you kind of like not really associated with the team. It's like rehab, and then they want you to go home and rest. So, I mean, you don't really be around the team that much. Is it weird? Yeah, it's a weird feeling. You're not actually on the team.

I wouldn't say that, but you're just around. Everybody that's hurt out of time, so. Sad team. Yeah, you don't really want to be in that spot. Do you have to, you know, kind of like take care of the mentals in that situation? Oh, yeah. That's the biggest part. Is that the first time you'd ever been sidelined that series that long?

That's the first time I ever got hurt, period. I mean, besides like a roll ankle or something. But something that required rehab every day. That's the first time I missed the game. How did it happen, the injury? Max Crosby jumped on my back and my knee hyper-extended. Yeah, because you tore ACL, MCL, I mean, everything. I tore everything, hamstring, like a part of my calf, posterior, lateral corner.

All that jump. The second it happened? Yeah. Do you know? The second it happened This is real Yeah Like I felt

I felt something kind of weird So I tried to get up And just Because like I said I never really been hurt before So I try to get up And walk off the field And like I put weight on my left leg

It was straight But when I tried to like step my right It was like my leg was just like Nealice Yeah just And then it got real real hot So I just laid down on the ground And I got up

And I kind of like They helped me off to the locker room But I'm thinking like I probably just sprained it or something Like it can't be that bad Okay And then I found out the next day It was like I was almost off for two years

If I would have did it A little bit worse I'd been off for two years Damn Well because when you tear all of that You're expecting a gruesome Like your leg is sideways We just I pictured something much worse

But when I saw the video It almost looks like a normal tackle almost So it was just a freak thing that happened Yeah It was just bad You got hard feelings for Max It's okay to say No he sent me his jersey and everything

We're cool Ah, that's a good move It wasn't after the injury But when I played him like The year I came back He sent me his jersey and all that. That's cool. So you never played for Mac, right?

Mac Brown? Yeah. I did. You did? Okay. He came back. So what years? I played Larry Fedora.

I played with him my first year. And then I had Coach Brown for two years. Got it. And I left my junior year. Running back factory during that time. Yeah, for sure. That had to be fun. So you committed to Fedora and he got fired.

And then how do you find out they're bringing in Mac Brown? And what was your reaction? Like, UNC was my only offer coming out of high school. So, like, in North Carolina, the way they do it, if you make it to the state championship, you either play at UNC Chapel Hill, NC State, or Wake Forest. So my senior year, we played at Chapel Hill. And, like, first played the game, I scored, like, 80-R touchdown. And right after the game, Coach Fador came up to me, he was like, you want to spend the weekend in Chapel Hill?

I was like, let's do it. And then that Sunday he offered me. He was like, you want to be a Tar Hill, I signed a paper saying that. Wow. Yeah. What's your family think of that? Like, pretty quick process there. I mean, they just knew my college was going to be free.

They wanted to trick. That's true. All right. Yeah. Let's get it done. Yeah. Design the paper. Were you in the NIL game at all?

No, I missed it. I missed it by, I think, two years. Oh, damn. Yep. What do you think of that? I feel like it's going to get out of hands sooner or later. I don't think it's going to last too much longer. At least in the form it's in now.

Yeah, they're going to have to make some new rules or something because, I mean, it's going to turn into all-star teams. But are you, are you pro? Yeah, I'm definitely for it. I feel like that she gets. much money as they want, but I just feel like sooner or later, they're going to put some kind of restrictions on it. Like, when you're there, are you basically a pro? What, in college?

Yeah, I mean, are you... It's different at every school. Yeah, besides the school part. I feel like, like, what you mean? Are you a pro as far as... Just like, yeah, the time you put into it, the effort, I mean, we always think they should get paid for all that you do, but... Yeah, for sure.

I definitely, I don't feel like... I actually feel like the workouts and things are actually harder in college. than in the NFL. You don't have a union. Yeah, probably because it's like forced. Like, you got the coaches and everybody forcing it. But, yeah, I feel like if you're making money for the university, I feel like you should get a part of it.

And when you first go there, if you only got recruited by one school, you kind of have you buy the balls. Well, no, but are you even thinking I could work this into the NFL? I would say, yeah. Yeah, no. I really had, like, Chappell Hill, always been my dream school just growing up in North Carolina but I was really fun to go there just for school like just to be a student but when I got there and

I was probably like six seven on the depth chart and it was my first time being away from home all the time so my mom came and picked me up every Friday and took me back home then she came and dropped me off on Sunday for the start of the week so I never really got used to the college experience and it was it was different I didn't really want to be there my first year because I wasn't playing it really wasn't, like, it wasn't fun at all, but as time went on, I started to learn and got an understanding of it. I mean, I started playing more, it became fun, and then my junior year, I started seeing my name

pop up on, like, Twitter and things, draft boys. I'm like, oh, this might be real. I might actually got a chance. And then why did you come out after your junior year? Honestly, just, I just seen, like I said, the draft boys and things, and then talking to agents and stuff that was predicting, and it was like, you could go here, you can go here. I'm like, shoot, I might as well leave. If there ain't no point in coming back, and not much better position you can put yourself in.

If they tell you top two rounds for a running back, you're kind of a fool to stick around at that point, especially pre-NIL. Facts. So that's what they were telling you? Like they were saying it's going to be a day, the first couple day type thing probably. Yeah, there was like first two rounds, maybe third. So I'm like, I don't care where I go. If I'm getting drafted that early to any team, I'll go. So with the three days, though, or now that the end of the.

NFL has like day one. Did you have like a big party that night thinking I could be the, oh. No, I did. Because like that's the thing. They sent me the cameras and all that to set it up. And, uh, because I was during COVID. So it wasn't really, uh, I don't think nobody was at the draft. Right.

Yeah, they sent, uh, wait, I think it was a year after that one. Okay. Yeah, but, um, yeah, they sent all the cameras and things like that. But I'm like, bro, I'm not trying to have no party. Have all these people come over here and then I don't get drafted first round. And I got to bring them all back tomorrow. So I just waited to the draft It was over and then after I got drafted

I had a party light into that So you hear people talk about You're familiar of the nerds and football Like downplaying the value of the running back Over the years And obviously you can just see it in the draft Like 10 years ago You might have been a top 10 pick

Yeah You're taking running backs top 5 top 10 And now it feels like we've gone too far And that the running back just doesn't matter at all I feel like the way I've always seen it Is just the run game together The offensive line and the running back working together. How do you think about just how people regard the running back now?

Yeah, I mean, if you're just a running back, yeah, I feel like you don't really hold that much value anymore. Like, if you all you can do is just run the ball and just like banging the people, bruised, do this and that. I feel like you got to be able to catch. You got to be able to protect the quarterback. And then you just got to be a smart football player overall. Like don't just run into stuff. Like you got to be able to make, like just make plays. They want playmakers.

I don't feel like they just want running backs. Yeah, and that's a great way to put it. It's always been confusing to me that you have a third downback. And it's like, all right, well, this guy's pass pro. This guy can catch passes. And I'm like, I'd like that on the first two downs, too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They just want the whole thing, the whole package.

I was going to ask you about the combine because, you know, it is just how fast can you run, your shuttle, your bench press. And none of that equates to a good running back. Because, like, I saw your 40-time, you know, four or five something, but then I watch you run away from guys on the field all the time. Yeah. So training for the combine, was it completely different than how you prepared yourself for an actual game? Oh, yeah.

Training for the combine. It's like six weeks are just, like you said, doing everything you're doing. It's no, like, I mean, you might do football drills every, like once a week. But other than that, it's training for the shuttle bench person, training for your vert, doing this, doing that. And then when you get on the field, like you said, none of that don't matter. It's all about angles. Like, you can be as fast as you want. But if I'm running that way and you run it full.

speed and I just stop and go back the other way you can't stop and catch me so I mean you just got to be smart like I said have you heard of a place called P3 in Santa Barbara it's like a performance center place is like so Luca went there before he came to the draft and that was one of the things so they have these plates in the floor where you train yeah and that was one of the things they learned about Luca because they could actually measure like his desal and there's no way to do that at the combine yeah that's what matters for a running bag so I wonder if I don't don't know one day they get it more advanced because i've i've seen how these guys prepare for the combine and it's like none of this is for football no you're just working the bench press

working the shuttle time but i mean if you get somebody like micha and you go out there six four two 50 you're in four three i mean yeah you can see it sometimes yeah yeah well i was gonna ask about your approach to it because it did it seem like a waste of time like i'm doing this just for the draft because i mean i guess some guys do climb rounds by having a good combine so you have to do it but at the same time that doesn't make you a great football player i wouldn't say it's a waste of time because like i said you still you still getting faster you still getting stronger i mean you still getting quicker just doing those little drills but as far as it equating the football i don't think it matters that much but it's not a waste of time i don't think it's a waste of time though

yeah so we've been working on go ahead i was just going if we're still talking combine did you like study for the wonder lick the wonder lick nah i did they do that anymore yeah you're talking about the little computer test right yeah yeah yeah nah you don't study for for it's just like it's more like a I wouldn't say a test but it's like it's a measurement

yeah it's kind of weird it's like they'll show you like a picture at the beginning of the test and then they'll wait all the way to the end of the test and be like

can you remember where the spoon was at in the first picture like stuff like that you see what I'm saying? And you're like no yeah it's like a memory type

game it's stuff like that yeah or pick with shape is different and all that and how did did your agent

like work with you on having did you go in for any interviews ahead of time to different teams all my interviews was on zoom oh that's right yeah so my agent my agent actually uh told me like just wear a college shirt so i'm in there with a college shirt no pants with basketball yeah uh so we hear all about shoddy and the compete and the how are you at ping pong uh i'm all right did you get to play paintball i'm probably average you said paintball or ping pong Ping pong, I know you guys did. Paintball, you might have missed. That was day one of...

No, yeah, I was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you with... I sound better at paintball than ping pong. Okay. So he's demanding you all call him shoddy, I guess. We've been trying to work on new nicknames. Why don't we just call him sawed off shoddy?

Just call him sawed off. Doesn't that sound tougher? Sawd off shoddy. Tactical shoddy. Tactical shoddy is another one we've been working on. Shoddy just feels like we need more. Shoddy. Can compare Shottie to Sean Payton?

Um, I mean, I feel like they're in a different age group. So, I mean, they obviously are going to be different, but I feel like Coach Payton was more, like, straight to the point, more like stern, more strict, like, whatever he said, that's what he want. But Shadi, more like layback. He still get his point across, still,

make sure you do what you got to do, but he just got a different approach. I feel like they both, at the end of the day, they want the same thing, they just got different approaches. Did you go out, have you gone out to eat with them? Who, Shadi? Yeah. Yeah, I went out to eat with him. Who was in your group?

I can't remember everybody. I think it was me, DB, Durant, Miles, Yie, fee. Trent, maybe. Is this the one he was telling us about? Trent, the Deep Snapper? Yeah, yeah, I think Trent was with us, too. Yeah, Trent was with us. We went to, um, the restaurant is right inside.

The Star, what it's called? I forgot what it's called. Cowboys Club, something, probably. Chick-fil-A? Is that the first time you'd ever met Trent? Trent? Yeah. Well, he didn't even know his name right now.

Wait, what's the kicker's name? Bangor. No, Aubrey. I'm tripping. There you go, yeah. You knew the other one, too? Yeah, bangers a punter. I'll take it.

He's the one that comes in if you guys don't do your thing right. Yeah. I'm better with faces, though. Okay. Yeah. So we can. We'll trip you on that.

possibly um okay i wanted to ask you about playing here and how this compares to like playing uh well you trained in where colorado but what was it was it indoor outdoor which you with the broncos training care oh yeah well last year or when i yeah yeah Colorado okay but with the broncos what was that training camp like compared to this is wild i we i always think this is wild that they fly us

all out here and all this kind of stuff yeah i mean everything about the cowboys like it's it's wild to me um the facility wild um just the way they go about things i mean we went the other day i went shopping like right up the street it's all a cowboy jersey i thought it was like a festival out here but it was like nah this the team like everybody loved the cowboys i'm like damn they got two states but um we got we also have like a whole country too yeah by the way the one south America's team. Yeah, rally. That's hard.

Yeah. But, I mean, the altitude, that's definitely a difference in Colorado. Yeah, what's that like? It'll probably take you like two weeks to get used to it. You can't even really walk up steps or anything like that without getting out of breath. If it's your first time. And I know people like with sickle cell, stuff like that, you can't play games in Colorado. But as far as training camp, I mean, the weather was pretty much like this in Colorado.

I mean, it wasn't too hot. What is the Having played in Colorado This is what comes to my mind What is the drug testing situation In the NFL these days? What is that? I mean I think for Wii

You get tested like the first week of training camp And that's it I think Okay And then after that It's just like street drugs Like street drugs Yeah

So before we get you out of here We have to ask you about current current unccc football yeah for belichick not just with belichick with the team

president or team manager or whatever she is his girlfriend that he met when he was 18 years old yeah does she send out emails to the alum does she ask you for money like how involved

I haven't I haven't talked to her I haven't even met Coach Belichette yet but um next time I go there and I want to meet him though is he like is there a you know a lot of times guys get hired they reach out to the alum like try to get that back in And do you know anything about it?

No, he did, he did reach out about a golf tournament, but I was in Dallas, so I wasn't, I wasn't able to make it. So I didn't go to it or nothing like that. But I definitely want to meet him, just talk to him, see how his personality, his demeanor, see how he at. He met Jerry? You need to meet her. Jerry Jones? Yeah, I met him. What was that like?

What was your impression before you got here of him? I really thought he was like, I mean. Like, just the way everybody talked about him, I thought he was like mean, like stuck up and like rude and like that. Like, when I first met him, I'm like, oh, dang, he's down the earth. The most normal billionaire in the world. Like, he's humble. Like, I guess he just get a, I mean, everybody get a bad rap with the media, so I guess you can't judge a book by the cover. F-in media.

It's the worst. You can't trust them. Yeah, at all. What's intentionality mean to you? Intentionality. Doesn't Shottie say that a lot? He do. I mean, just, like, just be genuine.

Like, be intentional. Don't just say stuff or do stuff just because, I mean, like, if, you know, like, if. If you do something and say something, actually mean it, mean what you say it and say what you mean. Okay. We would not fit in on the comments. Dailed it. Thanks, man. We appreciate you stopping by.

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Brandon Aubrey, that's why you get to be an all-pro. Coach was just giving him a little bit of love. Everything shot he says is legit and genuine, but I also feel like, could be made fun of because he's like, man, I just thought they kicked the ball. Get in there? These guys actually have, like, technique and footwork. Don't make him McConaughey. He is.

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is on the edge. We're edging the Cowboys practice field. I am in the VIP area. This is VIP fans, and I'm looking at a couple of, how did you guys get in here? Can I ask you? What What's your bit, man? My buddy, or, you know, my old boss, he hooked it up. He looked it up for us. So that's how we got in. Okay, this is pretty sweet. You got a mini helmet?

Yeah, I got a helmet. Brought it from home, so hopefully get a couple of autographs. Who are you looking for? I mean, Parsons. We were close to getting him last year. Yeah, they'd love to get a signature from him. So Parsons is the goal. You know, the Cowboys also want a signature from Michael Parsons right now.

Yeah, I know. I know what are we doing I have zero idea I hear all the time that war pro it's just you know it's getting it's getting old what's the problem you know what's it why is it going like I want Parsons and I don't know I mean what else does he got to prove

yeah why why is the what's the hang up what are we doing here well you know he likes to you know stir the pot a little bit so I'm pretty sure that's what he's doing I mean we did it with you know lamb what last year you know so yeah it makes an expert

did they know about the Jerry's new kid came out like two years ago. We're the talk of the town like always. So, you know. That was in the news. Do you live here? No, we live in Santa Crito. Is that not here?

Nah, no. It's like, you know, like three. Oh, Santa Clarita. Santa Clarita. Yeah. The Santa Clarita diet. Is that a thing? It's not like an old TV show.

It is an old TV show, yeah. Okay. That's the means came out of that one. Yeah. Okay. Pretty sure. All right. Is this a YouTube channel?

Where are you guys from? Don't patronize us. Jum. Okay. Are we going to be on something that we can watch? They're patronizing us. What's popping? Are we doing?

That is so pretty. Are you doing to promote anything? No, I'm fortunately not. Who are you? I'm Mia Betone. Mia Batoni. That's me. Let's get that IG.

That's my brother. Let's get that IG. Ask for her SNAP. Twins. Oh my gosh. So that thing's ruined. You're not identical. You're not identical.

She's a beautiful lady. I didn't know. Sometimes there is a transition. Yeah. I mean, in California, I thought they mandated transition. Right. Who knows nowadays? Right.

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Yeah. That's your dream, Jake. Twins. Yeah, yeah. A dude and a girl. They're right up my own. We're not allowed to show any cowboys practice. Yeah, yeah.

So we're not allowed to film any cowboys practice, and we will not do so. Right now, though, I can just tell you. So we got referees around the field stretching. Yep. Oh, Blake might know this guy. His name is BJ, it says, on his back. That's a back check. Number 78 is BJ.

Hey, Ron. And it looks like, can we get this guy behind me? It looks like Stavvy's out on the field there. Do you see the big giant guy over there? No. What you're going to get over there is a lot of, like, player family and stuff. But by yesterday, there was, like, super loud rap music going on. Well, hold on.

This one isn't player family. Let me go next to it. And I'm glad there's not rap music because we can hear the Baccones. That's true. Dan sounded so old yesterday. Does the music ever been this loud? Does it feel louder, just a little bit louder? How are they going to practice with the music is loud?

And you guys all agree that it's all, it's loud. How are they going to hear the play call? We're going to have to go to a silent count. Yeah, I guess so far was so loud. I mean, oh, that's a new area. I'm going elsewhere in the BIP area now. Can I, hey, can I talk to you for a moment? we're just talking about

to a convoy fans how'd you guys get in the VIP area? Sure. A Yama about casino? Yeah, tickets. Oh, okay. They won them at a casino? Okay.

You won? No, no, no. I'm actually a player in the casino. Oh, to like a VIP, like a gift, like from the casino. Oh, okay, a gift in the casino. Bernie. very nice and how have you been this close before to the Cowboys practice um yes it's my third

year coming here okay so you're all very familiar with how this goes and are you trying to get an autograph or anything what's your deal but I can't um how's the how's the office have you ever heard of as yeah how's the offense looking um good I agree a lot of Let me just test your cowboy knowledge. Who is the cowboy's kicker? I don't know. Who is the cowboy's quarterback?

No, I just... All right, you know that one, right? What number is Zee? Who is the owner of the Cowboys? How does Zique look this year? Zeeke. He's Zeefeo-L-A. That was my test.

All right. Quarterback before Dak. No, Zique is retired. quarterback before deck who okay one more quiz question who was the quarterback before deck prescott um he took the job up i forgot he dated uh jesus i don't even remember the only mexican quarterback the cowboys have ever had he announces games on cbs right now he actually are you uh do you have Hispanic heritage yourself this is the only cowboy's quarterback with Hispanic heritage.

I know, I just forgot his name. Tony Romo. Okay, all right, well, great. What's your name? Elizabeth. Elizabeth, well, nice talking. Thank you. Thank you very much.

All right. We're moving on, walking around. You want to go, want me to go down the line, like to the non-VIP fans? Was she hot? She wasn't. Hey, shoddy. Yeah, yeah. say that. Yeah, go check out

some VIPs. I can start doing some news if you want, like we can just shoot the S. I think we also can, if you would like to see behind the scenes here. It looks, yeah. So this is the tennis courts of course at the hotel. And then

right behind that is two giant football fields. Why? Don't start asking and answering your own questions. Dude, if you're not, but you haven't been hanging out with them? It's all effing day. Don't do that. It's from the morning we get, right when we get in the car.

Is it going to training camp? Yes. He does. Is it all that a day? It's not. This is built up over the years, though, to where these big structures didn't used to be here. You used to be able to sit in our tent and watch practice.

Right. And they realize we got to install some BIP areas. There's a freight elevator now. I want you go roll some puts over there. Yeah, they got puts, they got drinks, hot dogs, all you could ever want, really. I saw Clayton house the hot dog. I'm telling shot he's picking the music. Rock show keeps coming back.

This is how you know somebody's a blink, absolute poser. Anybody who picks this song. Hey, Jeff. You want to hang out? Wait for the violin. The music is back. Grab a headset. Yeah.

See this sign here? It says blue and white wristbands on. you probably can't go with that okay let's see let's see if dan can get kicked out of VIP oh is that what's happening yeah what's he doing this is blue and white redspans on he walked right in there he's in the VIP now he's going to get a roll a few puts over there like every team has an opportunity for you to play mini golf at practice that's a entirely normal opportunity you can now hear some of the practice music now this is much lower than yesterday isn't it Yeah.

Hey, how are you doing? Thank you. Is this yellow card? Just don't video anything on the field, though. Okay. We're very careful about that. What do you got? What do you got going on today?

Getting to the bottom of the football thing? Yeah, I'm going to figure out the football stuff. That's a cool hat. Thanks, man. Branded Bills. That's bonus for them getting mentioned on your show. Yeah. Congrats to them.

You coming to Malibu with us? I don't think so. We're going to go do Carrie. Clarence leaves us every night. Who are you talking to? Jeff Kavanaugh, D-L-S-D-L-S-D-L-S. Sports. Cowboys podcast, D-L-S, sports.

Actually, M-F is a YouTube star. Who? Yeah. We over here sweating. Just, please, sir, may have another few hundred views. Yeah. This guy's like, let me put something up by this evening. It'll have 19,000 views, or I'm just like, the Cowboys suck.

It's fair. It's fair. If I just said the Cowboys suck, it would get one. way more. That's true. That's true. The dumber, the more. All right, so we're watching Dan.

We kind of thought. I'm now walking on the side. Yeah, you're in. I'm surprised you got that far. Yeah, I think the camera should just be decidedly turned away from. I'd like to talk to some real cowboy fans, though, if I could. I think you're on your way to. Can I, you're a real cowboy fan?

There's Coach Fluse. What's your name? Ryan Jackson. Ryan, what's up, dude? How much, man? How about you? What's your bid? I did

Oh Yeah what are you doing What are you here for? I'm just here to I just watch some training camp Oh yeah Watch my team you know What are you trying to learn about the team

What would you like to learn about the team by watching I mean I don't see how they play this year How do they look so far Have you been to practice yet or is this your first one This is my second one Okay how do they look in that first one The first one they were good man

One well no so it was like three sundays ago it was just a practice that's all we were all the way over there though yeah so what do you think of shoddy is joe milton better than dad i like him man i do you're a shoddy guy shoddy fan man i'm more of a shoddy fan than a mccarthy fan hell yeah okay and his dad was a winner was a winner go browns dude hell yeah who are you looking who are you looking to get a True Lance. Overshone today.

Yeah. Do you know whose number that used to be? That used to be. And he took that number from someone. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jay Ron Curse. No. Rowdy.

Browdy, the mascot. Yeah, he's doubles here. Oh. He is now. That's too much. Learn your spot. That's why you don't be sports radio. It's go Texas.

I'm in the California. Go, Tex. Where are you from? I'm from Upland. Upland. I don't even know what that means. That's so like Ontario area. Is that by Ligma?

That's Canada. No, no, no, no. Near Ligma? Is anywhere near Ligma? No. Okay. No, he's left you out. Have you ever had a Moxi energy drink?

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I got you. I look for some real cowboys. Oh, it's got mushy's in it. You guys are real cut? You're about to go to the moon. I'll show you a little bit a little bit. Sorry, I forgot. You have legit cowboy tattooed.

A helmet. Wow. That's fine. Originally from El Paso, Texas, but born here, I mean, raised here, Knoxhart. Raised Knoxhart? Yeah, I'm from Alpastard, but I got family all throughout Texas, Joshua, Texas, right outside Dallas. So you got... Just to ask him the question.

Texas in your blood. Yes, I do. It's in my blood, yeah. And I've been a cowboy fan since 1970. That's the year I was born. I used to see my uncle, fake TVs, and I wouldn't see the star. And it was Roger Stauback. Just ask you, if you're men...

If you're Mexican, are you allowed to like a different football? I'm a hard sport. Now, are you of Hispanic heritage? Yes, I am. Okay. Are you allowed to, being of Hispanic heritage, are you allowed to be a fan of any of your team? There's your body.

You know what, in our family? You're not allowed. You're either a cowboy fan or you're no fan. You better not say you're another. Does he call him the commanders or Redskins? Sports team fan. Yeah, what does he think of that? He got to be a cowboy fan in our family.

What do you call the team? from Washington what nickname do you like to use for them I did I still call them the dead skin yeah for me yeah I mean you know but it's it's cowboy in my family or nothing you know football Sundays and you see my whole family it's all a cowboy party okay how big cowboy party every Sunday it's it's it's like church ask what do to get over the hump here I don't know man I just it's hard it's hard I do truly believe in my heart. I truly believe I'm going to be a realist.

I truly believe the year Dak took over and took Tony Romo's spot when he got injured up there at Seattle. That was it. I truly believe that's the year Romo would have won a Super Bowl. Oh, you drew the wrong. Yeah. All the right is for a wrong conclusion. We messed up there. We messed up.

We shouldn't let Tony Romo get a spot back and see what happened. They were 13 and 2. We lost I truly believe that that was our year to win the Super Bowl Yeah I'm just being a realist

Yeah for a lot of people A lot of people quit I know Quit on a lot of people Quit on Romo I'm one of the guys that didn't I didn't quit on Romo Because I truly bring Romo back now

What if you brought him back For one more year this year? Better than Milton Man it'd be great man It'd be great We'll see What about his head coach? What about his head coach?

What dad does with us this year? You know, time's running, you know, time's running out for back, too, man. He's starting to. Hey, hey, see if you can sing you a little cowboy's song. That same course. Like for this season. A theme for this season. Honestly, honestly, we'll see what Dad does this year.

I'm going to give him one more chance. I'm one of the Cowboys that's going to give back. Yeah, that's a good theme. One more chance. I think we've got to move on from him. It doesn't because. To do that. And then he just became.

How many times over the. years have you said I'm going to give the Cowboys one more chance I lost count man it hurts man I'm not going to lie man I cried man 55 I cried I cried I cried over the even my family knows it you know I'm just one of those those one day and I just I know bro you know I don't want to die do you know this like a friend I just met her oh you just better yeah okay are you similar Dallas Cowboy fans we all just like we're family even we didn't know each other Familiar.

We're here, so we're family. Okay. I'm with you. We're going to be here through thick and thin, man. Me? I'm going to be here through thick and thin. What do you think of Shoddy? I don't know if thick or thin is the good or bad one.

It's just, it's hard. It's hard. Bad? No. I mean, it's sick as hard. What we're going to do this season. I'm going to be quiet this year because every year I keep saying we're going to the Super Bowl. It's starting to get old.

I'm getting tired of that story. Shack would agree with you. Yeah, Shaq, Shaq said he's going to go to the Super Board. If he does it, he's going to run through New York, butt naked. Butt naked. So that's a bold statement. Would she like to see that? Well, silly, Jerry here inside.

Jerry, you've got to do stuff. What would have happened? Wouldn't you want to? You know, that might be a little scary. He's a big news. I just feel a lot of people are blaming Jerry. You know what? Just kind of walk off other talking.

Jerry's not out there on the field, you know. It's the Cowboys players. They need to fall up and man up and play some hard for football. You know, it's, I'll just be able to join our show. You're just getting up. Let's carry it over. It's your biggest fault, is that you're honest. Yeah, that's my biggest fault.

I see it. You come in right after Shottie. These players, we got a lot of telling out here. Yes. You know, facts. You know, when you know, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, just think about that Greenblay. I'm tired.

I've passed out. A decade ago, oh, I'm going to win that a football game. They've been beaten badly more recently. And we all saw the blowout. And you can't blame Jerry Jones for that. No. That's true. The Cowboys.

You can't do that. Who's your favorite player? Right now? Right now? Jerry. I'm going to say my favorite player is C.D. Lamb, man. He's just a piece.

That guy's just a piece. of a receiver he's up there he's up there class act he's a beast I don't care you know they they're saying he's number three didn't know Jesse hated Oskine like that that was refreshing

oh yeah that this year I think he's going to tell that guy did Jesse Cussie? No he can't do that no more that's crazy you think that'll affect but I think he said he wouldn't pour water on him if he was on fire in the Jesse way He's a talented player, man.

I got a feeling he's going to get away from this guy. He'll have some new celebration. Who's the Cowboys kicker? Aubrey. Brandon and Aubrey, Matt, and Anger. Yeah. That's a cowboy fan right there. Who's a deep sniper?

I mean, Aubrey's number one right now in the NFL. We all know that. We all saw him. He would have broke that record when you take that field world. They ice them, I believe it. Cleveland. I don't know. I don't know, but they should have, they should have let them.

Dan's trolling us now. You've lost seven subscribers. It's rap music. I like it. I like it. Honestly, I think it pumps the players up. Ask him if he uses the word.

Do you censor yourself while singing rap songs? You get very censors from the Latino community. Huh? I don't care what you do, Calvin. Hello? Hey, what's up? Good to see you, man. I want to have Calvin on the show.

Go do the stuff, man. Did we lose Dan's audio completely? Hopefully. Okay, let's get back. Hey, the lion's main thing? Can I tell you a quick story? Oh, you have to go to break? No.

Do I have to go to break? Who the fuck are you talking to? I don't know about the stuff. Don't disrespect us like that again. I don't know the stuff. Speak to your mind. So the mushroom thing. I like the 150 milligrams of caffeine.

I think that's a great number. It is. I think 100 is not enough and two is a little jitter. 150 is the right number. Couldn't agree more. We were walking in. in to the premiere for the Netflix thing, and I realized that the suit that I had brought,

I brought a suit, I reached down into the pocket, and I felt a couple of capsules, and I was like, when's the last time I wore this suit? And it was Lion's Main-ish, I would say. It was, had a couple micro-dezies in the suit. And did you have those after the premiere? No, I had one walking in, and then the other one's on my nightstand.

Yeah, yeah, I just want to know if there were any remaining after the premiere. That's great. No, I'm a micro-prout of you. I'm a micro. guy. Yes. Not a macro. Pindose, all of it.

Is he just still talking out there? He hit the mute switch. But he still, is Grimm still filming? At least he knew it wasn't good. We respect your honesty. He had the awareness. You want to jump into the news? Yeah.

I'm going to jump out to practice. Okay. I'm a big football man. I know, I know. We'll talk to you the second. For sport. While we have this opportunity, I can tell you about the French.

wrinkles, because Jeff is wholly incapable of doing that in any consistent way. 214, 817, 33333, 33. Round them up. You can hit as many threes as you want. You can. Keep dialing it. Seven of them will suffice. 214, 817, 33, 33, 33, 33, chosen by the people, feared by the insurance companies.

If you get yourself into an accident, let's say somebody, you know, runs you over with a snowmobile or bashes you with a golf club and you're just hanging out. You think it's a hate crime. And yeah, well, call the Frankles. They're going to get to the bottom of this. They have over 100 years of combined experience. When you call, you'll talk to a partner. Please, if you find yourself in this situation, make sure you call the Frankles.

And they're not going to pressure you because we've heard from some of our subbies that they've called, and the Frankl said, yeah, you don't really need this. Yeah, that's a phenomenal copy point, Blake. I'm just trying to help. I am thanking you for helping and doing so dutifully. Blake and I were talking earlier about whoever the intern is who has to make sure all the rap songs are edited because they all definitely are We're waiting on you

We're going to do the news Hold on Yeah, yeah, we are Did you guys just lose me? Yeah, you muted yourself How? That guy was, that guy was gold. We got a good amount of it, but we were having a different take.

He was great. No, he was good. You should have heard what he said after. Anyway. We're ready for the news when you are. I know, I wanted to give him a moxie, but then you guys are like, oh, I can't hear of me. All right, I guess I won't do the moxie bit. Here's Jay.

And that was not a good copy point from Blake. I thought it was. No one has ever told us that about the Franks. I'm an elite copy point giver. So last night, we were just crushing some LA news, right? So there's four local channels, as I've told you, but also we have Fox Local and More 27. We know that they got all kinds of channels out there.

So the news stations, they've got other things they can go to. And now they have YouTube, which they actually care about. So if something jumps off at any time, they're on. And last night, it was a car chase. And it was great. So we're going to get to that in a second. The first story from L.A. is we were just watching the Kairn, and Matt Grimm would say, that's a good one.

A massive cockfighting ring busted up in Los Angeles. 3,500 birds during a six-week investigation. They arrested 60 people. Operation crowing rooster. Hell yeah. I think that's good. Yeah. Yeah?

I think there was a decision made in that room of can we use the word cock. And once they figured out, there's just no way. Operation cock block. Exactly. Somebody in there was like, all right, if we can't do that, what's next best? And crowing roosters is fine. The next story we saw, of course, was them awarding the homeless innovation of the week, which was a homeless man who had constructed a three-story tree house.

It isn't really innovation of the week, is it? No. Okay. What's up? Was you just saying, hey? I think so. Who was it? I don't know.

A lady. Oh, ladies love me. Dude, the chicks are all over me down there. Yeah, we can tell. We could tell. A man and a woman in San Bernardino County this week ran down a man with their pickup truck and then sprayed him with tear gas while he was pinned under a wheel of the vehicle.

Damn. Yes. That seems excessive. Yes. Struck several times by the vehicle, pinned underneath after he was wedged. And then... It began spraying tear gas in the victim's face.

This is just a normal... This isn't even a story on their news. Yeah, they don't have time for it. They're like also... So, if you go to the YouTube pages for some of these local news stations, they actually have a tab. that says police chases and there's one every day and the one for KLTA says click here to binge the latest police chases and we caught one last night boys hot live let me tell you something I'd watch this every night if I were out here

the production immaculate basically it's like watching Red Zone and we were locked in for the full 30 minutes I have all the audio and I'm going to show you how this is exactly like watching a football game for example the speedometer of the driver is on the screen and going up in real time

they've got the guy and the chopper they've got people back at the desk but the guy in the chopper and the people back at the desk this is not for all their greatness this is not you know what's his name Steve Eager

this is a dude who covers a police chase every night and they know the ins and outs of all of it and it just feels like you're watching red zone so i will start you uh with is my audio up like okay so this is going to be our first one here let's just get into it oh mic uh you mentioned gang units behind this person so this could be more than just a stolen car so what we start with here is a stolen car that's all they know about it but they're like you know who started this pursuit the gang unit So now I'm just thinking it's Vic and the boys. And they tried to stop somebody for a stolen car.

And that guy was like, holy shit, I'm about to get tortured. I'm taking off. So now they fill that in. Could be. And the way that started is actually pretty interesting. Whoa, blowing through there. We were listening to this in the George unit that went, they went code six on him first, which means the officers were initially out of their car making a U-turn here at Franklin.

And it looks like getting back northbound on the 101. Yeah. So the... Steve Eager does not know code six. No, or the G, hey, this is the G, the G team. From Devonshire Division that originally tried to make this stop, they were actually out of the car first, and they requested a backup, and then this person jumped in the car and took off.

So what we have here is they stopped somebody, they all got out of the car, and while the gang unit is there, this guy's like, I'm getting back in the car and taking off. They did. So now we've got an element of like Homer call here, because we've got the people back there trying to fill you in

and then we've got the guy we've got there's Jerry we've got the guy in the helicopter who by the way is the guy who we played audio from back during the protest who was just talking about his divorce

and how poorly his life was going same guy they've already been able to give a clothing description they said he's a man in his 30s late 20s early 30s wearing gold chains oh my gosh

why don't you chill and let me finish the play I'm with them been in here this is the sort of thing that drives job crazy so definitely not afraid to take some chances here okay you know the gang they've already been able to give a clothing description uh he they said he's a man in his 30s late 20s early 30s wearing gold chains oh my goodness ah lost it right there okay so now we're going to move on to this next one here which is highlighting the production i heard the helicopter saying get off the freeway guys get off the freeway because the units missed it so they were having to notify haul

Hollywood division, and so there's no units immediately behind this. Okay, maybe it's right, yeah. The Hollywood Bowl visitors from trying to go into those neighborhoods to park. On the left, we're showing you that scene there are moments ago where the driver got off the freeway at Coenga. Did you hear what just happened there? Hmm. Highlights. So while the chase is still going, they're like, over in this other box right here, we're showing you back when they were on Aldadena.

That's great. And the sharp turn they made. They're cutting the thing up in real time. So they got like a truck, like the Stars game. Yes. We got him over here on two. Sponsors. Dude, they're showing a highlight package while this guy is still active.

Like, the chase is going on. So great. This is something you could only hear in L.A. And also a bit of a cross-promotion. And the lights are back off again. Yep. Yeah, lights off and on a, you know, kind of a dark vehicle as well. I mean, we know that a lot of the freeways in Los Angeles are not lit very well

because so much of the copper wire has been stolen from a lot of the lights out here. We know Mike has done quite a few stories on that. Quite a few. Okay. Like, copper is such a problem that they're like, yeah, dude. It's dark out here because of that. I thought this was just cool police talk and reporting.

Yeah, so they initiated it. I just was playing back to radio traffic a little bit more. The communication center asked the unit, the George unit, RU code four on the vehicle. they read out the license plate and then something happened you can hear some yelling in the background the officer requests a backup

which is additional units a helicopter and a supervisor and then it very quickly you hear her say hey and then he sounds like they get in her you say you got a female Vic to a pursuit right after that

so something was happening outside of the car it's hard to very it's very hard to discern what it was but something was happening outside of the car then this person jumped in and now they're calling it stolen and this all originated on okay so last one here the much like analyst on red zone here they're going to break down the play we've definitely seen

some you know deviously clever ways of these suspects being able to evade the authorities as of late that of course everyone's still talking about that pursuit that we had on on sunday with the multiple carjackings and the vehicle change and that happened underneath the freeway so they have so many car chases police chases that they refer back to last week's game and they're like we remember the trends we saw coming out of last week's It appears the rest of the league starting to run some of those same plays. I wonder if every station does this

because this is awesome. Yeah, to an extent they do, but the ones who are really like, for example, if you've got 8 o'clock programming on your ABC channel, you might not be able to do this, but if you've got ABC Local or Fox Local, and I think this one was Fox,

we just go over there, we run that any time. Okay. Put it on YouTube. Put it on the app This is their channel 27 Pretty much, yeah And so We're enthralled into this

The chase ends In a I don't know It looks like a dark office Like impound lot It's an industrial looking lot

And the cops lose the guy The only Light on the guy At this point Really is coming from The news chopper And we're like This guy's gone

He ran into a building ran back. It's completely dark, and the news guys are like, we lost him. Where is he? And they were trying to tell us there was no exit. Do you have the video, Clayton? So we're watching this, and we're like,

they keep saying there's only one way in and one way out of this building. And we stick with it for as long as they did, which is like 10 minutes. There's scoping the whole thing out. The helicopter's flying around. We're like, this guy's gone. There's no way.

There's not another exit to this place. Play the video. Son of a bitch. I wake up this morning. and we have the conclusion to this thing is they just like they got the guy and they walked him right out the same door that we were looking at all night. We don't need the video. But yeah, the guy was, he was hold up. They waited about two hours and then they got him.

But this just happens every night. It's fantastic. We were like on the verge of placing bets. I'm sure people do that. I am positive that people do that. And while we're on that same tip, They referenced the Saturday night one. They've not caught those oil rig guys.

Okay. Last night they were running with new look. They're not catching them. At these guys. It was just a different camera angle from the same robbery. In L.A., you can steal an oil tanker and get away. Like, Grand Theft Auto has never seemed more real to me than when watching the news out here. I'm like, I don't know.

Maybe that does just happen. There's your Cali News. Oh, that's the whole news? Or is that just Cali? Nah, we'll make that the news. Callie News. All right. The Dumb Zone News.

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Man, I forgot to put the image in there of my Uber Eats order last night. What did you do last night? Dude, every day I wake up. Real early. I'm so grinding. Top there. You can hold people. So is it the disco Dan's pizza or whatever?

I saw Dan's pizza in the fridge. Was that you? No, that was dinner for the boys. Oh, these guys, I was at dinner with you. The three of us and listener Jared got a couple pizzas. Oh, you can do stuff from two different places? I didn't. These guys did a pre-dinner?

So the sushi place was pre-dinner? I think it's one. I got ice cream. But there's also Popeyes down here. That was the night before. Last night I plowed through the rest of the good Yassau bars. There were four of them. We bought five boxes of those things.

When I was still up, you crushed a couple of those Yassau bars. Yeah, I had four of them. And then you went back for another Ben and Jerry's and Rees. You had four Yassos in one night? I didn't stop there, folks. I was like, that was awesome, but that's Yover. How does he keep getting away with this? And I ordered.

And he looks better. better than ever. He walked out without a shirt on the other day, and he's just all skin and bones. I ordered three Reese's ice cream bars. Holy hell. Three. That's a, you know what, and I intended to do a two and one, and I blew right past that stop sign. God, this feels good, man. Shout out to Nip. I don't understand you.

Do you see me out there grinding this one? Couple viewer mail birthdays. That's a sweet jersey. I guarantee you that's Maris Leofal's dad. There's no other reason to have that jersey. Viewer male birthdays, dear Pharaoh of the fallopian tubes. Masters of the Moses in the basket. It's okay, a new twist.

Please with my brother, Jimmy Miller. Happy Gail Sayers minus Brian Piccolo plus Dak birthday. The great Jimmy Miller? His leaders are B.K. Harmony, Medieval Dan, and Blake's Cedric Benson, Adrian Peterson, running back one baby. Oh, yeah. That's tough to top, man. He was once an intern for Norm. The great Jimmy Miller.

He had to print out the Mitchell Report. That's awesome. F. Mod. A. F. Niko and F. the Heppala Hater. from Bruce. P.S. I lost in the first round of Donnie's online COVID-Domino tournament to Jake under the username Butchugging since 99. Gay or not gay? Butchugging.

I think that's all very cool. Happy birthday, Jimmy. Hi, Dumbzone. Please wish happy birthday to former Bad Radio intern Darien McBrayer. Shut up. We were talking about him yesterday? Yeah, we probably spent 10 minutes on old subboy. His leaders are Cray-Tray, Captain Sorensen, fake, Leighton Van Dereesh.

That was a fun one. Dan's basement mosquitoes, Rob Ford, Leroy Jenkins, Barbara Bush. Babadabush. I didn't hear about any subs, or? Pure dumb zone, no guess, no sit-ins. Dan gaslighting that he's nice to interns. Oh, sheesh. That's tough.

Darien McBrayer Wow You did not like him No Not I'm just Just saying I don't get the sense You like any of them

Well it just depends on how they act On the casting couch I like you He's coming around on Henry You like me I like you Henry's arrow is way up right now He's got to know where my back is

We got a vape We got a vape Or Hey Daniel Um My number of D-Fness is the year that Congress authorized women lawyers to practice before the Supreme Court. I'm going to say that that was, because I know Ruth Bader Ginsburg did it when she was young, and so she died a couple years ago at 80.

I'm going to say 1977. Boy, that seems pretty late there. It's 1879. Practice before this. Okay, they couldn't have credit cards until 1980. Yeah, but they can get up there. They can get up there and yap, though. Can't vote, but.

Shout out to my birthday shout out to my brother-in-law, Eric and Katie. Let's see, big fan. I'd watch that video, you know what I mean? I lived in Cali. Let's see, I don't know his leaders are, so let's say Sarah Hepelah's absolute milksheds. Can't go wrong.

And the healing of the nation via the Lincoln-Douglas debates. Proud member of the Beehive. Tell Blake, he has to play the Tierra Rahada golf course in Moore Park. Look it up. I have. It is one of the best I've ever played. Anyway, that is for Kelby. I think that's a dude or a lady?

Dude. Kelby is a man name I didn't say it's a man name I said I think the guy's a dude it's not a real manly name though right but Colby you know do the best thing is everybody who walks

by here like VIP and everything they think we're like a like a TV station because we have lights everybody's peeking in here like what's going on it is DZ TV executive producer that's what I got to use instead of

a dumb-out. Anyway, today is Wednesday, August 13th, on this day in 1980. Todd Rundgren, you know who that is? Of course. How about you? Give me one Todd Rungren song. Oh, it's big. I like Can We Still Be Friends.

That is a great song. He's one of the greatest songwriters of his generation. How many people have you said that about? Well, his home was invaded by four masked men on this day in 1980. Todd and his girlfriend and three house guests are bound and gagged while they strip the house of valuables. That's kind of cool. Seems intense. Yeah.

You know, Marin had a bit last night that made me think of you of just the, when you're an adult and you like travel and you have a friend who lives in a city and they're like, Stay at my place. You're like, what is wrong with you? Why would I, if you can ever afford a hotel, ever, where are you to a point where you're like, I'm going to stay at my friend's house? So that I have to worry when I go to the bathroom or when I come downstairs in the morning, like, I can't imagine Dan ever being like, yeah, I'll just crash at your place. You're loud stomp.

Not at the red roof in next door. There's nothing wrong with staying with friends. I agree. Save a couple hundred bucks. That's the thing. My friends just don't have enough money for me to live in my... I want to stay in a palace. I'll go stay at Cash Roy's house tomorrow.

I will stay at Casheroy's place any time. And I'm a great house guest, by the way. Ask him. He has deemed himself. Why? I'm an elite house guest. Why? Because I wash the dishes.

I clean up. I have appreciated you doing the dishes this week. Thanks, man. Graham took out the trash this morning. You guys are killing it. I know. I saw... I went to take it.

out the trash, and so it was already taken out. I was like, whoa. Meet you to it. Who's doing my job? And on this day in 1986, Herschel Walker. Future almost senator? Very close, dude.

He signed on this day to play with the Dallas Cowboys of the NFL. He was a U.S.FL star, and he would sign for $5 million over five years. They're making too much money. this is the day that Michael Jordan's dad was found like in a creek he was not alive he was dead and this is the day

it sounds so it sounds like vermin like I found him dead creek South Park debuted on this day in 1997 and Blake thought that meant everything South Park does on TV can be done on local radio I cannot stress, again, I cannot stress to you the panic in the North Texas evangelical parent community over that show. It was literally as if Satan had made a TV show, put it into our culture, and they had to protect us from it like it was Satan.

Which is very funny because I feel like I remember that happening with the Simpsons. Because Bart Simpson would be... Smart mouth. Talk back and he'd say, eat my short. And then, you know, your parents were very upset about South Park, and then we are very upset about Love Island. Like, how much far, every generation has something where they're like, I can't believe this is on. You know what's funny about that, though, is that in that same sort of milieu or whatever, jackass came out. And, like, my parents, I remember being like, this is actually awesome.

Like, it didn't seem like they were disgusted by it. Well, that's because you watched it with Chappie. Probably true. You weren't watching with your mom. Your mom's like, oh, cool, a hot wheel up his butt. This day, August 13th in Dumb Zone history. Let's see. Beginning with last year, do you remember when Jake tried to give us COVID?

Jake gave me COVID a couple of times already. I think I tried to get it. Yeah, but on this trip last year, trip i got a little trip i went to disneyland world i did and then you and then jake said okay i wear a mask if it makes you feel better and he wore it for three seconds i said yes then wear a mask and then he just took it off yeah and then um we became obsessed with this again

i think this was on the show on this day in 2018 and then we replayed it in 21 uh do you remember lindsay draper jake yes um Who did she work for? Blue Star. She gave us this. Stop on. He just told me this year

first time in AT&T Stadium. What is your reaction to this place? That's dope, man. That's a great environment. You know, it doesn't feel nothing like a preseason game. You know, everyone in the stands, you know, so it felt real good. Just coming out here,

I've been my first time playing in the stadium. Okay, let's talk about your camp so far. I've been on Oxnardt. How you guys want to improve on this year in the offense is really stretching. We got to make them pay once they give us one-on-one coverage on the outside. Okay, obviously, your first time at AT&T Stadium,

but also your mom's first time. Guys, we turned around. She's not too far behind us up there. If we could get a camera on her. Hey, so fun. How did that? That was last year? Two years ago.

Oh, okay. She was with Alan Hurons, but we had fun with that. Hey, so fun. an odd thing though for her to say it's your time first time at cowboy stadium also your mom's like why would his mom have been there before him they paint up to her and she's waving hey so fun that was fun are that's it for today in dumb zone history or you want me to say like and this has been today well i don't i just want some indication that you're done that's it Just kind of waiting for your...

Shut up, shoddy. It is. Yeah, I'm not. All right, today's celebrity birthdays. Osa Odigizua is 27. That's a leader right there. Born in Dayton, Ohio.

Well, you can be a leader if you get paid. That's when I'll be a leader. DeMarvion overshown is 25. another one agent zero doubt him at your own risk Sherman Williams is 52 wow cowboy running back

very confusing to me as a child because I thought he was paint me too what about was he the one that filled in for Emmett when he was out for two games or no is that someone else that sounds right yeah did he have a hundred yards every game

Marty well no they did terrible right or at least they lost No, in the second game, the game where Charles Bashed his helmet through the wall in Buffalo, they lost 1714, and offensively was not good. Also, they missed a kick, which I think would have tied it, which is probably the main reason Charles Bastian's helmet through the window kickers. Yeah, a bunch of foreigners.

Neither of these guys are foreign, though. Marty Turco, 50. He has a bar at the airport. That seems like a big, like, there's like a Drew Pearson one, Dirk one, it's weird. David Faradie is 67. Wouldn't he really against Liv? And they were like, oh, what if we pay you?

Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's what? Did you do 9-11? Who knows? No one knows now. Troy didn't have good games during that stretch. Those first two weeks? Yeah.

I'm not a good running game. What? Jay Buehner is 61. Wow. They used to have Jay Buehner Day at the ballpark where you could go get your head shaved. I used to think that was awesome. Did they really?

Yeah, when I was just, they had it a few times. Because I would see it, watching Mariners Rangers and be like, damn. Jay Buna rocks. Colby Allard is 29. Failed, right? Is he a first-round pick? Yeah, he had some promise, right? Well, that's probably the first round pick part, but...

Andre Thornton is 76. He is a Cleveland Indian great from years ago. DeMarcus Cousins is 35. Dude. In his, like, at his peak, that was about the most fun basketball player I'd ever seen. There was just nothing like him. That's very superlative. Dude, when he was doing his thing, he was on bad team, so nobody was telling him shit.

He was just like, oh, I'll just kind of do things, DeMarcus's way. It's fun. And he got viral meningitis. Dave Jamerson is 58. He was an Ohio University bobcat great. And that's where I went to school. You may remember Gary Trent.

He was known as the Shack of the Mac. Well, Gary Trent's, there is Dave Gemmer. Jamerson before Gary Trent. He was the 15th overall pick in the 1990 NBA draft. Interesting. Is that a big deal back home? It was at Ohio University. Just take a bomb rip with him?

No. Highwire aerialist, ariolaist. Philippe Petit is 76. Oh, man on watch. player guy, huh? Yeah. Danny Bonaducci is 66.

I don't really know what that is. I just know he was on all of the shows when I was a child. He was on like the Partridge family and that's all. Well, I mean after that, like reality and comedy shows. Like that's the so 70s or something. He was on the Partridge family when my mom was a child. Right. But he was milking the C-list thing by the time I was a teen, annoyingly.

Actress? That's changing. I'm bringing that back. Debbie Mazar is 61. Her first movie was Goodfellas. She was Henry Hill's sidepiece. Okay. He would cheat on Dr. Melfi with her.

Actor at birth. John Slattery is 62. That's Roger Sterling. I'm Madman. Okay. Is that worth going back? You'd probably like it. What does that mean?

It's for women. Madman? Yeah. Wow. I don't know if I should take that as an insult. I am a guy who owned two cats before ever meeting my wife. But I enjoyed Mad Men. Okay, so I have two candidates for our Dumb Zone birthday of the day,

but first we'll bring on intern Henry. He is back in Dallas. Swag Lord. He is slaving away. He's sending Jake overnight packages. He got it here. He's in his bed. Making the company pay for Jake's.

He just woke up. Vapes. That's the... I'm right. He does look like he just woke up. We out slaying Poon last night? Jeez. God, I wish.

No. Crancing hog? All right. All right. Intern Henry's birthday of the day. Let's get to it. All right. So that annoying little shit that did the vlog with Trayvon Diggs and Neil?

It's 21. What's his name again? Neon. Neon. What? He's a streamer. He's done... CD's been on his show.

Trayvon's been on his show, and they'll go hang out with him for like eight hours and just streamed the whole thing. He's, uh, he seems special needs. Is there like a whole lane of special needs kids on YouTube and Instagram that... Because it was a kid the Texans fan, remember? Sneako. Stretch? Snitch, snatch, snatch, stretch, stretch, stretch. Yeah, stretch.

Sketch. Sketch. Wait. That's the thing, no. What isn't he doing gay porn? Yes. In the past life. Why do you laugh at that?

Why are you against the gay? You are, Kara Lutz is right. He wasn't doing porn. He just got found out. Doing? He might have done a little. Or like, I think a picture got leaked or something. What was he doing that?

picture no i think it was like him in makeup okay well i don't think he was in the act of anything today's birthday is neon who has a million subscribers on youtube and has spent more time interviewing travon digs than you ever will uh if you did this for 50 years that was the one where travon told him he wanted to be the lebron of the nfl and play with aiden i feel like his training Regiment is right up there with, you know, the hyperbaric chamber guy. He really said that? This is a joke. Oh, all right.

To me, it's a joke. Yeah. Thanks, Henry. So my, well, he could stay on for the rest of it, right? I still wanted to thank him. Oh. So our Dumb Zone birthday of the day, I have two possibilities, and they're both aimed at you. One is U.S. Secretary or maybe she was former Treasury.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is 79. Wow, yeah. That's a Matt Grimm. Maybe, bed chair, treasury? Well, the reason I brought it up is I thought for sure you might have... Definitely somebody who you're out and seeing Gus Ferrat play quarterback. You might look up and see Janet Yellen or, you know, Scooter Libby. Yeah, the CBS cameras have caught.

Right. My God. But my... Is that Dick Army? My real dumb zone birthday of the day It says here Kempstman Valerie Plame is 761 Damn son

That is a blast from the past That is the CIA agent That was accidentally outed By the Bush administration Her husband was also an operative And she's hot as piss, bud So if you think they're having ugly CIA agents It was confirmed when she was outed

They're not Look her up Okay so she's not When I read that name I thought oh did she drive a car country in a diaper or something? No, no, that was Linda Noak. Novak.

How do you know all these names? Valerie Plain was a CIA agent undercover, like completely beyond the veil until this shit popped, but she was a, yeah, dude, that's what they got spies looking like that. Does it make me an old head that I think she's hot? No, it makes you a good, virile young man. Okay, good. What's the oldest lady you've ever been in trouble for that, bud?

How old are you? 21? 21. My best play was actually the night I lost my virginity. I said I was a year older than I was at a different college bar. I was at Furman University, and I was going into my sophomore year, and I got with a senior. Yes, I was 18, and I got with a senior by saying that I was a junior. So she was 22?

I believe so, yes. best night of my life yeah bud so we learned that Henry was a virgin until college that's a piece of news and that he walked in and was like

where's the where's the senior piece of ass here so the oldest age dogs in the building super simple man get her a drink you know bust some moves stop talking

some good music keep talking so the oldest so that's the oldest age gap but is that the oldest woman you've ever been with then still yeah you've never been with somebody over 22 years old

no Dan my experience is very limited dude but after this internship man yeah everywhere you look it'll just be sopping I've just told you I was from the dump zone when I with that I can't remember how old was she I was 18 she was 31 leather it was amazing your alligator Yeah, her skin felt pulley.

Like, it's leathery, it's weird, it's, yeah, this is not. Will this go back? And she was 30, 33 or 31 or something. Also in Ohio, 80s 31, 90s 31 is, I don't know, yeah, it's a Wilford-Bremley line, might. And that is still the oldest woman I've ever been with. Hell yeah. Yeah. Born in the Stay Now Dead, Bill Masterton, Blake, who's,

Who's that? I don't know. He's the only NHL-on-ice fatality. Oh, okay, okay, okay. And he did it with the stars, and you see his number hanging in the rafters because if you want to get your number retired,

either score tons of goals, or just die. I'm like, I might be able to get my number retired. And Fidel Castro. He was born on this day now dead. Dead on this day, still dead. Alert your wife. Florence Nightingale.

Ah, yes. The founder of modern nursing. Mother Teresa, they called her. What do you think that means? Modern, what did they do in the past? Like, before the modern nurse. They weren't as naughty. Yeah, they're just serving whiskey.

Does your wife ever put on the nurse stuff for you? No. Oh. You could, you're all in the, Okay, you're laying in the bed. She puts an IV in you, like, let's play the whole thing out. Wipes your bottom. Yeah, gives you a little sponge bath.

Mr. Jones, it's time for your sponge bath. Said, oh, this part isn't clean either. Oh, am I exciting you? Here's the way to clean. Here's the way I like to clean this part. Imagine role-playing with your wife. I hate it. What do you mean you hate it?

Wouldn't it be great? You've done it? No, I don't want to do it. I'm just thinking about it. Like, you would turn it. We would be laughing in five seconds. I'm like, what the fuck are you, wearing. Are you dressed as a native?

Why are you talking like that? Yeah, you asked me to put this on. I'm like, I don't know why I did. This is weird. A native, did you say? Like, Saka Joia? What is she? Why are you acting so confident? I know what you're packing.

Yeah. Look, just wear this the fake mustache and, you know. This thing straps, it's just like a belt. Just look it up and I'll wear this name tag that says Eva Braun.

Oh, also, dead on this day, still dead. You have Kenny Baker. He was R2D2. What movie is R2D2 from, Henry? Star Wars, come on, man. Oh, I don't know. Maybe he doesn't know.

Do you guys know it's the 50th anniversary of Star Wars, and they're going to be showing it in theaters? I don't care. You want to know where I read that? No. Space.com, news of the day. Can I tell you a... Can I tell you a conspiracy theory that I don't think is that far out there?

I mean, you could say this about any, like, entertainment industry or really any industry. I think Star Wars exists as a stimulus for certain sectors of the economy every few years. And that's the only reason it exists. Like just that, hey. You are a stoner. No, it's propped up by these movies that don't need to exist. It's a huge demand for another Star Wars. No, but they know it can make money.

They know that that will be juice into the system. It's the only reason they're there. And died on this day, still dead. They know I'm right. Jack Ryan. Oh. He invented Hot Wheels and the Barbie doll. Wow.

I thought he was... I thought he was really trying to trick kids into his van, wasn't he? Okay, so explain the Plame affair to me again? The Valerie Plame thing? Yeah. So I don't recall specifically, but she was married to a guy. They were both undercover, and I think they were somehow affiliated with, like, the Democratic Party, and to mess with them, somebody purposely outed them why they were undercover.

Their name got published in, like, the Washington Post. You're looking at it. What do you see? Yeah, it still just doesn't... I guess I just don't get it. Okay. So I asked my friend to clarify and help me, and he just goes... She was undercover, and for political reasons, was outed as a CIA agent,

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