The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 8-14-26 | Josh Butler from Day 2 at Cowboys Training Camp

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

Training camp coverage is made free this week by Plumb Quick! Don’t wait until water is coming through the ceiling to figure out who your plumber is. [phone] or visit www.plumbquickcompany.comThe Athletic's, Jon Machota, and Cowboys cornerback, Josh Butler, stop by the table on day 2 of Cowboys Training Camp. Plus, our first full night together in California, Dan's diamond notes, and Heart Attack Man joins Today in History (00:00) - Open: Night one in California (24:36) - Sports: Dan’s Diamond Notes (32:54) - Jon Machota: Observations from camp (01:22:35) - Dustin Hoffman was at training camp (01:36:46) - Josh Butler: Becoming a TV star (01:59:26) - News: LA news is Grand Theft Auto (02:12:19) - Wireless at Training Camp (02:25:30) - Cowboys audio: Schotty with Kay Adams (02:44:19) - VM Birthdays/Today in History with Heart Attack Man ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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in a cloudy day, the high, 72 degrees, I think. The low, felt cooler last night. Let's check in with those who had sweaty sleep masks and heavy complaints on yesterday's show. Hear from everybody. Hold on. Pull this around. Pull it through this or else you're going to yank that. Remember that meme?

I yank the thing. And then the whistles go woo-woo. Did you make it worse? Oh, no, look at that. The whistles go woo-woo. It's an e-bombs world. Anyway, welcome to camp, folks. If you're tuning in, it's the Dumb Zone.

I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake Kim. I'm Blake Jones. We have Foodie CK here. We have Matt Grimm, our driver here. We have T.C. Fleming here as well. Driver feels like reduction. It kind of does.

I just don't like it. I've tried to force it. You just wanted to call a roadie. That is a much more highly respected term. Chief Logistics Officer. I like that. It's a Band-Aid. Last night was very pleasant.

We figured out the blinds. We got a breeze going. It's a very sustainable situation. One out of two is not bad. Okay, that was from the guy who had a sweaty sleep mask. It wasn't sweaty this morning. Last night was better. You don't love the tone.

But I don't love how we got there. Boy, I felt like Sensei, as I often do these days. Because I'm sitting in my room reading. Humble, first and foremost. And Blake pops his head in. He kind of a little snicker, a little swagger of a younger man. He goes, got the AC on. And I go.

I saw it in action. Really? I saw him. I was like. So. Because honestly, at that point, I said... He was holding his hand by the vent. It was possible that he was correct.

All there really is is a thing that says no AC, which could just be a suggestion on the thermostat. I thought it meant AC does not exist in this house. Right, but I... He then turned it on, and it seemed to be working. Right. And I was happy for him. But I also knew exactly what was going to happen.

What happened? It doesn't... It's not... There's no AC... It pushes air, but it's not cool there. Okay, but at least we... we have air circulating. The pushing air does improve the situation. But yeah, Dan and I walk in yesterday and they're, you know, you're just kind of like next to community mechanical so long,

you learn a thing or two. The return vent was, it was taking in air. So obviously they have the system to at least move the air. So then we go to the thermostat and it says no AC. And I thought, I begged to differ. Let's try. And so flipped on cool, set the set point, and then cool air started coming out of the vents. Don B.B. in January and night. 1993 right there. Maybe it was cooler than the air that was around us. The two-yard line pops his head in, hey. Could have looked around to see if there's the, you know,

there's a lot of evidence when there's an AC system in the house. In any case. Well, but it said heat only, so I didn't, I don't know. We did take a little trip to get dinner. You should see if the heat works. Just pump that in there and see. It seemed cooler last night when we were out at night night. It was cooler in the morning.

on my early morning walk. Early, so I'm at least thus far, sticking with Texas time. So I wake up at 6.30 to get up and walk to go get my coffee. So what is that? 4.30. So I'm not at the gas station until 5, but it's 5 a.m. I'm behind a guy that was taken forever. And I've seen future me here many times.

I've seen 75 to 80-year-old men walking small dogs, not a care in the world. You know, just that's me. Future me. I've told Jake this morning. I'm seeing myself at this time when I'm looking at all the people in my life where they are. My wife has half my money back in Texas. I'm here. Yeah, yeah.

I'm just here. I know everyone's name. You know, they all know me and everything. He got himself a sandwich made outside of sandwich hours this morning. Oh, Daniel, good to see you. That was only my first win on the stacking wins that you've been a part of this morning. I wouldn't get to tell about the cop. Why?

It's up to you how you want to present that because I don't think the way I do it would be. The way I present it, well, let me just tell my friend T.C. who would really enjoy the fact that I went in the exit. Yeah, of course, why not? There's a really long line to get into camp. To get into camp. This morning. Okay.

I ended up pulling in the exit. And when I started inching in, I got a cop giving me the no. Like, hold the hand up and he said no. So then I inched a little more in, and he gave me the no. How is Derek Chauvin? What is he just? Buddy? And so I kept inching, not fast, though, very slow.

And then he walks up. And then I turned into, I said, I showed him the pass right away that says VIP on it. And then I said, oh, I'm sure. sorry. This is our first day here. Is it what, where are we supposed to? And he's like, no, you're going to have to go back out. I go, okay, you want me to reverse and I'll go back out and go around. Like I was

indicating that I would do that terribly long and arduous process, but I want to and then he kind of gave the well, hey, just remember in the future. Uh-huh. And kind of let us pass. And then

he's shaking his head. No, I just sit there, man. We have all day. We're not on, like we're very early. Whatever you got to do, I consider that a, that's part of your positive, you know, cope therapy. You need to feel like you kind of got one over on someone. He got in the parking lot pretty quickly. That one goes down as a win. He pulled in the exit, dude.

And we have VIP level parking. We could have waited in a small line instead of a big line. And the guy was like, you know, we kind of have like a flow. There's a way to do it. He was right. No, he was right in the long run. Don't you love to Jake passive aggressive? No, no, no, it's fine, and he takes a massive vape.

I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. So now I'm at a gas station behind a guy who's taken forever at 5 a.m. I'm just holding my coffee. And this is future Jake because he's very old. He had some kind of a major scar.

So something happened. But he was having trouble directing the guy to which package. of smokes he wanted and the guy finally brought the pack of smokes over and then he gathered that he paid gathered that pack of smokes four tiny these energy drinks and then went on his way five a.m. That's his day. He's starting it. That's not you. That's him. I said what did I just say? That's future Jake. Okay. I go I've seen future Dan and hopefully these guys can run into each other and wonder how were they ever friends. Because the one guy is just walking his little dog, you know, paying his alimony or whatever.

And the other guys. That guy's out doing quests. Yeah, this other guy is just beating ass starting at like 5 a.m. He's like, I'm running late today. Yeah. Just freaking Jake, I wake up and think, okay, I'm the guy on Texas time. I'm going to be alone. I get up.

He's already awake. He's on the couch, typing away, doing some work. But he doesn't keep normal hours. Right, but he was asleep yesterday afternoon. That's what I'm saying. I didn't see you for... Yeah, I think it was probably when my daughter first went to Montessori, and they kind of introduced to you the way that your brain works and blocks.

And for me, when the show is over, if I have nothing to do, like I feel drained. When I used to drive home from the station, sometimes I would miss why today doesn't suck. or the start of the hard line or whatever because I'm just like, fuck. So now if I can, if I have nothing to do, I'll just lay down. And then I try to get back to work by like 8 or 8.30 at night and go till like 11.30 or midnight.

And then go to sleep again for four hours? Yeah, until like 4.30 or 5. It was funny hearing T.C. wake him up at 8.30. What time is it? 8.30? Oh, okay. Got up. You went and woke him up. Eight dinner?

We were going to eat dinner. And I didn't want him to wake up five minutes after that and be like, you guys got dinner without me? Yeah, I took a, I'll nap on you, dude. I can just sleep at the, like, drop. Is it a four-hour sleep in the afternoon a nap? Or is that like a... It's a red cycle.

Like, are you getting deep? Are you looking at your sleep patterns? I haven't worn that thing since I tore my ECO because I knew it was going to be all jacked up. Oh, so it's like the... His food app, you just don't want to use it to see it? Don't want to know. Once I started doing stuff at night again, all I know is I feel great.

And yes, part of that is game day, but I just listen to my body. And I know that sounds super WHL, but when I'm tired, I lay down this morning. It was 4.30. I got up, and I felt like Mega Man. I felt like gas station man. That's definitely the way to go, because we've seen the articles now where if you wake up and you see a bad sleep score, like your day's ruined. It's mental.

And I know that. That's why I started wearing the thing, is that I could convince myself that if I got that good sleep, and the score said, yes, we're good. But sometimes I would get good sleep, and I'm like, I don't know, but if I see the green, but now I'm just, I don't know, I feel pretty dialed. And now after the show today, I'll probably, we got stuff we want to do. I'm caught up. At some point this weekend, I'll probably sleep for 10 straight hours.

So we all did Spencer McKenzie's yesterday? Because I'm trying to keep a tally. We all did, but it's various times. It was in waves, but yes, everyone did go there. We went the non-Blake and Dan contingent went right after the show, right after. Just we're done, we're going there. Because you consider that your lunch, whereas I just have my lunch. You're impossible.

You just have no traditional, there's no sleep, there's no dinner lunch. Like it's just free range living. And I haven't brought this up much because we haven't been around each other. This has been going on for months. but and he probably knows TC does because we talk at night a lot more than we used to but my point is just we we went right away

to have whatever meal that was Dan and Blake stayed back to do some recon how'd that go did you make some meaningful connections we're having Stephen Jones that no it didn't go any better than the interaction you saw

boy that went about as bad as I can imagine something going the quickest handshake with PR no no it was a very life's most embarrassing moments. So we went there, we ate pretty quick. You can only get better. We order when the waiter comes over. We pay right when it's time.

We're in and out of there. We get back to the house, and as we're pulling up, Dan is walking out on the street. He's like, where'd you guys go? Well, we went to Spencer McKenzie's. He goes, you just went? And kind of had this, like, sad look. And I'm like, boy, I know what that.

That was a shot a little bit, But, yeah. No, it's okay. I don't care. You looked kind of like a kid who got cut from a team of like, well, I thought they'd wait on me. I'm the fish guy. Not wait, but like ask or something, you know. But that's fine.

I'm, I love eating at Spencer McKenzie's, whether I'm with a group of people or by myself. You're at Spencer McKenzie. T.C. is not allowed to have shellfish. So while they do have an expansive menu, it does take a couple of options off. Those Ahi tacos were as good as anything of it. That was my first time in Spencer McKenzie's. You guys are right. It's as good as you said.

You've heard about it for years. Oh, that was your first time. How exciting. It was very exciting. So I walked there on the, you know, there's a pass that you can get there. And I'm feeling really good about myself. I was talking to my wife, getting that out of the way early. And there's an end point.

Like, hey, I'm here. I got to, you know. Right. Unlike to her story. We know. We know the truth. So, and I'm feeling great because I'm like, oh, man, another day, another 10,000 steps. This is how great I am.

And I noticed, like, probably she might have been 70, at least 65. She just walks, Pat, like, I don't know. I must walk so slow because she wasn't really fast walking either. And I just had to tell my wife, look, I just got mugged by, like, a 70-year-old lady. But I still made it there eventually. Yeah, I think you're dealing with the top-ranked walkers in America out here. You know, I mean, there's got to be some parts.

There's no off-season for that. He's her SEC walkers. Yeah, I mean, a lady like that, she's been doing that every day for forever. Now, I think you kind of move slow in general, but like when we were walking in here today, I couldn't keep up with you. So, like, you can, I don't know, it's weird. You flip it on. I get motivated by the complex.

Boy, I'm very excited to be here. And then I get here, and I learn that it's Blake's birthday. So, happy birthday to Blake, everybody. Thank you. Now what? I literally just learned this. When's your real birthday? May, 15th.

Okay. Okay. Thank you, Scott. So it's the Friday before the 15th. As you know, Blake, well, do you need to reset for the people listening at home? Well, I'll reset the T. So my birthday is May 15th. If you put that into all of my food apps,

you get all of these birthday rewards at the same time. More than you can't use them all. Some of them, it's only that day, some of them of a weekend, some of a week. You just can't reach them all. So what I've begun to do is space them out. So recently I signed up, I got a tea pass at McAllisters.

What? A niche item, even. For sweet tea, you mean? Well, I'm trying to, I had some heart palpour. a year or so ago. So I'm trying to lower my caffeine. So I've switched to tea instead of energy drinks or coffee. Yeah.

And so McAllisters has wonderful tea. So I'll go unsweet tea in the afternoon. The tea pass is $8 a month. You can get one every single day. And I do. Wow. Great value. Anyway, signed up for the tea pass.

They asked me for my birthday August 15th. Excellent. Because that was open? Well, I always did it on the 15th. Ten star closed. Yeah, I always did it on the 15th. And then I try to go, like, go, like, you know, just different months. And for McAllister's, I picked August.

Do you have a spreadsheet, which indicates? No, I have, like, a memory bank of, like this one I did July. The next one, I'll do August, next one October. And I just will remember what they are. He goes into his mind palace. Right. And so McAllis, we were to August. And so this weekend, I got a free cookie at McAllister's.

Excellent. And now you're just sitting here knowing that's for me. At some point in the next couple days, I get a nice treat. I'm going to cash that in. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. All because you're a genius. It's living like a video game character.

On your birthday. I thought you meant it was his birthday. I missed the first pass there because tomorrow is when his real year starts. Yeah. His first travel to NFL game and then his weekends from here on out. Because he's been in the trenches. Is it real, though, if you're not with Berline? Burline's not doing tomorrow.

I'm saying it's real because he's not with his kids. Like his weekends for the past six months. have been one thing. Yeah, this is a different... He showed me a sad video yesterday. You don't want to know. Did you see it? No, I just think we've...

I have a theory that, like, movies have trained kids to miss their parents more than they actually do, and it's performative. Well, no, it was just his kid taking his first steps. Yeah. First three steps yesterday. I don't think I could clock that. They all felt too, like, is that a step?

Is that a step? Whatever people talk about first words? Yeah. How does any, like, there's just a bunch of sounds. I think it was up. For my daughter, I feel like it was up. She learned the word up, and then she would never say anything else because if she said up, we'd be like, did you see her?

She said, oh, my God, and then we'd pick her up. Like, it would be a celebration. But then she'd say it again, like, I want to trigger that again. Yeah. Up, up. And then pretty quick that gets old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she still wants to do it.

The third one, really. She wants to do it 30 consecutive times. All right. They're slow learners. Yeah. And then she learns that up means the back of your hand. It's unbelievable. I thought it meant one thing.

Now, we sent a video of my kid, whenever she was young, to one of Megan's friends. And the friend could tell that, like, it was a sentence. Like, she said a sentence. But, like, to us, it's just, ah, she's doing the garbling again. Yeah. And so, yeah, I have no idea, you know, like, does that, that doesn't count his first word. must have been doing 100 words before that. But these were out of a starting block.

He was chugging three steps. Man, yeah, he might be alignment, so I think his first steps were actually, like, backwards and pass protection. But no, yeah, he took three steps yesterday. I think you're wrong. I think I can prove my oldest misses me because I brought my Xbox.

Well, he misses one of you. He misses the version of me that will let him play. But we do have a date this afternoon. he's going to go over to grandparents' house and get on my dad's Xbox and we're going to play a little Xbox this afternoon. That's a great bit.

So I'm going to commandeer the TV if that's okay with you all. Of course. I did walk to Spencer McKinsey's. Dan and I passed on the walking trail and then was not ready... Go ahead. I don't want to talk about that.

I was not ready to get back to the house just yet. So I walked past the house and I went to our frozen yogurt stand that we became very familiar with last year. We meaning Blake. It's pretty mid. I mean, it's good.

It's fine, but it's nothing you're going to be like, hey, if you come here, you've got to go here. Again, those fighting words for Blake, I'll respect the fact that you like this place. You can see it means a lot to me. I don't know why you are. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, Bourdain stopped there once. Yeah. And so I get my cup with my cookie dough bites, and as I'm walking, one falls on the ground.

Oh, no. And so I quickly pick it up and realize, like, the reason I'm eating this is for the cookie dough bites. Yeah. And so I eat it. Nice. And then the rest of the cup just tastes like concrete. Oh, that's rough. Yeah.

Maybe you just got to let it go. Important lesson. I mean, it's like $12. That's my point. It's a dollar per cookie dough bite. I don't want to see that value go out the window. I learned something I want last night. Things Jake want?

Yep, because a lot of the local news coverage out here is about the sale of the Lakers and Mark Walters and how he owns the Dodgers, what's going to happen with Shohei. And last night they were all reporting that in his contract, Shohei has a key clause. Key man. Key man clause, that's what it is. The key man clause, which states that if, like, the person in charge, the key man changes, that parts of your... your contract are null. And it kind of makes sense, I guess. So what does that mean, though?

He's not thought to be wanting to exercise it. If Walter sells the Dodgers, he has the ability to opt out. Yeah, like immediately. He can tear up the whole thing. And it also applies to the GM. If they switch GMs, show has the ability to tear up his contract. And I'd never heard the term. They were throwing it around.

Oh, it's discovered key man clause. I'm like, damn, that's leverage. Like, this is with you, not them. You guys just wanted to make it so that if Cat ever moved on. Right. I want to be here. Speaking of Blake, and yesterday you started the show talking about our shopping trip. Yeah.

And I just failed to mention, but I thought of it last night because I was, took a glorious shower last night after all this walking and, you know, NeutraGina Sport sunscreen all over me. I had to wipe that all off. and I see in the bathroom they have little tiny shampoos. Did you guys experience this? Mm-hmm. And like a little bar of soap.

And it reminded me that when I was with Blake shopping, he bought three giant bars of soap, like bars. Oh. Like the big giant, like, how are you going to use three bars of soap this weekend? Or one week? Like, you didn't buy the one bar. And even buying a bar of soap. When's the last time we all did that?

I'm still a bar soap guy. I'm a lufa guy. That's cute. You're a bar guy? He's a lufo. Well, they have a washcloth. Now, you bought some shampoo too, and I'm not objecting to that because those tiny little shampoes, you're going to roll through that probably in a day on your mustache.

Well, yeah, but those are also like a dollar, and the big bottle I got was $2. I'm not arguing with the shampoo. I thought there was a great at first down. The tiny bar of soap will last you weeks. Yeah. Yeah, but he's going to have to get a second one, or then the third one every time he sees one of my pews on there. But no, I'll just take the other two bars of soap home and use them there.

Not saying the tiny one from the bathroom would work enough. You didn't need to go buy a bar of soap. No, because there's three guys showering in that shower. I don't want all three of us to use that tiny bar. I want my own bar. That makes sense. I'm going to use every one of them. In my opinion, that they wouldn't touch your bar of soap.

Somebody else used it, but maybe I'm wrong. Is that why I saw hair on it? Please don't leave hair on the bar soap. You just took one, pluck one off your head on purpose? I don't know where that hair came from. Is it scare you? A little bit. What's it going to do?

I don't know. Bore a hole into you? Give me cooties. He's, I'm not, I've never had cooties. John Machot is coming on our show in a little bit. Ask him. We have a bunch of cowboys talk today. We should mention that the reason we're out here at cowboy camp,

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469-331-369. Can I do Dan's diamond notes? Or do you have other? I have some baseball stuff, and I thought it could work into today's show. but if you have other stuff that you just want to get in before Machota have at it. Otherwise, I have Dan's Diamond notes. Let's go Dan's Diamond notes.

I mean, unless you want to talk, Jaydon. I don't want you to leave. Let's go Diamond. I would like to get T.C.'s thoughts on some of these things as well. I know Blake was trying to kick you off. No, I just don't want to hear him put the headset on the table. I was trying to mute it. Number one, did you know there was a Field of Dreams game?

Yeah. Like still going on? let alone that it was last night. I found out last night that it was last night. And, yeah, I've seen, I see this every year because of social media, right? They just started it, what, five, six years ago? I remember what it was a huge year. They couldn't top the first one.

I don't know why they tried. That's the thing. Yeah. It feels like that first one was great. Tim Anderson? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Against the Yankees.

Remember Tim Anderson? He's officially retired. They're honoring him in a couple of weeks. Why? Because he won a batting title with him. the White Sox and made a couple All-Star teams. He was awesome. Okay. Seems like a low bar.

Do you know how bad the White Sox players are? Let's not get mucked up in South Sides. Go ahead. Go ahead. 22, 26 and now next year. So it had been gone. So I was wrong. They did 21, 22, and then it was back. Okay. Okay.

That's, that validates me a little bit. That I wasn't even aware that it was still a thing. But for some reason, it's still a thing. And they had it. And a collective tumbleweed has dropped across the United States, I think, in response to the field. I've never seen Field of Dreams, and I don't plan to. Boy, I think you should. I may have seen parts of it here and there.

But the fact that it's in some way about... You might never watch baseball again if you watch that movie. I worry. The redemption of Shoeless Joe Jackson, but the outfield walls at last night's game were covered in ads for fan duel. Yes. That's pretty great. Fan duel, let the field of dreams.

Elsewhere in Dan's Diamond notes. Braxton Ashcraft is a pitcher. Yeah. You're familiar with him? Just through fantasy. Buckos. Is it a T. Pirates.

Okay. Had a complete game, 85 pitch. Complete game. Wow. He had 73 pitches going into the ninth, so had a chance at a shutout and what they say is a Maddox. Yeah. And I was reading this this morning. I was like, what the hell?

What is a Maddox? I've always heard like a under 90. Yeah. It is a complete game shutout under 100 pitches. 100. So 99 or below. It'll be called a Maddox. And went.

went and looked, you know, looking, why is this called a Maddox? Because he was a very efficient pitcher. And he has 13 career complete game shutouts under 100 pitches. That's so astounding. That's insane. The most of any pitcher since pitch counts began being tracked. So I don't know exactly when that is. I'm going to guess in the 70s.

And I'm going to bet that no one before that had more than that. Nobody had control that was stolen that much. And that's where you would lose the bet Because I was thinking that as well Let's see, what about the lowest? Well, Major League Baseball has been around a long time But let's not go to the dead ball era That would be silly

But we will go the nine-inning complete game Nineteen four Red Barrett 58 pitches Wow Two hits No walks, no walks, no strikeouts.

Oh my God. He faced 29 batters. Playing the kids from South Park. 58 pitches. It was a night game, and it turned out to be the shortest night game in Major League history. One hour and 15 minutes.

God, that'd be nice. Wow. No, it wouldn't. It's better for it to be shorter. An hour and 15 minutes is a sideshow. That's a barnstorm. That's not a sporting event. I'm going to side with TC on this one.

And then... You'd be home so early? Kind of a similar vein. There was a shutout last night. By the Tigers, they shut out the Indians or the Guardians. Not just one pitcher, because this is 26, right? But no strikeouts. In a shutout.

The first time since 2014, when there's been a game where a team has been shut out with no strikeouts. I would have guessed longer than that. And it's happened nine times in the last 31 years. Elsewhere in Dan's Diamond Notes, there is an athletic article that I thought you would love, and maybe John Machota can join in to talk about. It is entitled, Major League Baseball Players Love Their Scooters,

Their Teams Wish They Didn't. Did you see this article? No. And I guess this is stemming off of that San Francisco Giants player Who was invader Yeah Who got injured and might even have his

$10 million contract voided Because he got injured on a scooter ride And I feel like they used to be a much bigger deal out here Seeing guys on At camp? Yes Like you'd see him on hard knocks and stuff You'd see him out in the park at the hall of fame thing

There was a big picture of Larry Fitzgerald signing for the fans but he was signing Wall on a Segway. Okay. It was not a good look. Anyway. Oh, and my final note would be that Neil, you know, Libman, remember him? I do remember Neil Libman of the Rangers.

He is leaving. His post is Chairman of the Rangers sports media. We'll retain his stake in the ownership group, but they say the switch to Buzer is not behind the departure. but that's, of course, what they say, yes. I'd rather not know any of these people's names. It's all the other things that are going great. So now the only Lib Man we know is right here with a cape.

He's got an L on his chest. And we just need a theme song for Lib Man. I'm sure someone will send it along. Yeah. All right. Joining us now, everybody, to, from Cowboys Training Camp, maybe to talk about the Cowboys or maybe it'll be movies. It is John Machota from the Athletic, from the one-star Cowboys podcast, of which we are a fan.

Hello, John Machota. Hello, boys. How are things? They're pretty great. I can't complain. I like being out here a lot. Do some people not? Your cadre?

Yeah. Yeah, the long we're out here. You start hearing some complaints, you know, wanting to get back home, stuff like that. But I just check the weather every day in Dallas, and I'm suddenly. fine again. I'd like to stay out here long enough to start to feel that. Like, let's test ourselves. In all my years, I've never hit that point.

No, that's what I'm saying. The first day I'm out here, it's kind of like, oh, man, there's so much traffic, and it's taken forever to get here. I was telling Jake this morning. And then by the second day, like, I turn into the chill California guy, like, so it takes a little longer. Look at the weather. Yeah.

Look at the beautiful scenery. It's whatever. It's all fine. I had some friends in town recently, and they were staying in the Manhattan Beach area, and I met them at an Angels game after one of these practices, and it was probably two and a half hours to get there. And then with no traffic on the way back, it took me like an hour and a half to get here. So it was fine because I don't do a lot of that when I'm out here. But if that was the drive all the time, we were doing like an hour drive every day,

I could see being tired of this after a couple of weeks because it is a beating. But we don't have that. I mean, we're right around the corner. to stay in Ventura. Where are you staying? In Ventura, that Marriott. Are you very close to us? You're heading out today?

I'm not going now. Okay. I don't know. Pull back the curtain here. There's just really not the investment's not worth it for a preseason game. Okay, so that's interesting. Everything's the same price. I was standing there yesterday when you guys were talking to Jerry, and I might have

misheard this. I was really focused on him doing charades for a Dustin Hoffman movie. We can get to that. Yeah. But somebody said something like, how excited are you to see your first round picks play? And I didn't think Downs would play at all. Is he going to play?

I don't think he will. But I guess there's a possibility. I mean, Brian Schottenheimer's kept that pretty close to the vest. Because like even yesterday when he was walking off the podium, he wouldn't tell us definitively if Christian Parker is calling the game from up in the box around the sideline. I would imagine he's going to be a sideline guy,

but he's not wanted to really reveal anything other than that most of the starters won't play. So your veterans like that. So I don't think Caleb Downs will play, but I guess that there is a possibility because maybe it'll be like, hey, let's get the rookies out there for a series, at least the top rookies. So, but yeah, there's just not enough meat on the bone to want to really do the flight, travel, all that for the same cost of a regular season game.

And the product is just to be honest, not even close to as good as what we see in that Rams practice and that Saints practice. It's below the Burline. Steve Berline's not going to play, so it's below that. But you brought up calling plays there, and I think this is the first camp that I've ever heard them make a big deal out of like this period was Clayton Adams versus Christian Parker. And I say that because I don't know that I've ever heard a guy who's not going to call plays in the regular season.

Like if you flip the rolls, I don't remember Shottie doing that. for Mike McCarthy. He didn't. There were McCarthy allowed on the third preseason game. He had, I think Brian did one year. Did he do it with whoever it was before? Yeah, he did, yeah. So that is something where it's not completely unheard of,

but I really feel like Brian wants to do a solid to Clayton too, where it's like that's the next step in your career. So let's let you get some of that in out here, you know, but not to the point where I could ever see Brian giving up play calling. and being, you know, kind of how when Jason Garrett went from being a play caller to the walk-around head coach. I think he wants to do a little bit more of that, like watching that Rams practice, you could tell he wanted to watch the defense more, whereas, like, Shaw McVeigh stayed with the Rams offense. Interesting.

So I think he wants to be a little bit more involved, and maybe that stems from, I don't believe anybody in the organization thought it could be as disastrous as it was last year, especially with a veteran coach as your D.C. So I think there's a little bit of that that factors into like, hey, let me make sure I'm hanging out in some of these defensive meeting rooms a little bit because I think what happened last year is when he started going in those defensive being rooms, I think the snowball was already out of control. There was no way of containing it at that point. I can see him giving up playing, play calling eventually for, and one might be if Clayton Adams was getting OC job offers elsewhere. and they didn't want to lose him.

And then the other might be just because his demeanor feels like head coach, like from the get-go, he does want to be head coach. Like, whereas Jason Garrett was a head coach, you know what I mean? Like, that's how Marty was. Marty was a defensive guy who then had a big hand in the offense and then just, was the oversee head coach, and it just feels like that's at least what he, in his mind, wants to be. More executive than guru.

And I don't feel like we've really had that here since Bill Parcells to have one guy who was actually head coach. Would you agree, disagree with any of that? I mean, there were times where I thought that's what Jason Garrett was doing. And there are some similarities between Jason and, and Brian Schottenheimer. And there's some similarities, too, with what you say. I can see that because there was a little bit of that Dan Campbell, you know,

one of the guys running around out there. So I could see maybe potentially that happens, but I think that he'd have to have a lot more success with the offense before he would give that up. Yeah. Before he would be like, all right? It was his first year last year, right? Do it.

And then plus with the toys that he has to play with this year, I don't think he'd want to be giving that up. And if they're able to keep George Pickens, I don't think he's going to want to give that up. That would be tough to pass that on to somebody else because the pieces are there for you to potentially have the best offense in a league. I don't know why you would be handing that off. But you said to keep Clayton is O.C., maybe that is something that could potentially happen.

I just don't see that in the next year or so. I just think it's weird how he is, it is weird. You say Jason Garrett maybe became that. He was coached for 10 years. Like, this is Shottie's second year, and he's already kind of asserting himself. more as head coach than Jason Garrett, I thought, ever did. Yeah, but I also think Brian's been in this for a while. You know, I mean, he certainly got to a point in his career

where it looked like he was going to be one of those next young, offensive hot-shot gurus to be a head coach. He'll tell you that. Just ask him. Yeah. And then it passed him. And it's pretty clear that he didn't think he would get this opportunity again to be an NFL head coach.

And so I do think he has a little bit more coaching probably experienced than Jason did because Jason had a chunk of his career when he was playing. So I think that part might be a little bit different there. Maybe that's why he steps in and is the way that he is. But, yeah, he doesn't seem like a first-time head coach. Like, I'm just testing some stuff out here. I don't really know what I'm doing. It seems like he's got a pretty good grasp on his plan and what he wants to do.

And maybe because it took so long, he's like, I've got to start doing it now. Like, I'm probably not going to get another shot, you know, if this fails. so I better do it the way I want to and it's amazing that he's been able to do it the way he wants to and I think it's great actually I think the Christian Parker hiring and Clayton Adams have proved to be very good it's certainly not the way Jerry and the Cowboys have done things

and it's pretty incredible that he's been able to do that I think in his first two years and probably only you know it's because it failed so poorly exactly if it's just kind of bad and they're like, let's try and go another direction. I think you're going to see, you would have seen another former head coach, D.C. type that fit right in with the rest of what they packed. Guy who used to work here, knows how to get in the building. Could be that.

Could be that. But I think because it was on a level that Jerry never even fathom could happen, I think he was like, all right, this is on you. We'll leave it up to you. You bring in the guys you want to bring in. You want to do eight, nine interviews, do it. Get the guy that you want. and it's easy to see with Christian Parker how he would win you over in that type of a setting. So that's not a sprored.

I think the Micah thing, it's almost like you're just, you're wounded too. Like you're open to anything at that point. The defense had fallen apart, but also Jerry's like holding the knife, right? So he's open to any ideas at that point. It was timing, I think. And Shottie, I think he does. I think he's smart enough to know, like, if they have great success, and he's, called the head coach.

Like, I think he really wants Christian Parker to do great and get a head coaching job somewhere else. Or, like, because people will credit, oh, it's Christian Parker, though. But it's Clayton. Yeah, but Shadi is, like, at least confident enough in, what, in himself that. I think that's a huge thing, man. Yeah, you could let other people do it. And, yes, media might give them credit, but he kind of knows.

Like, I'm here. I'm the head coach. it's going to all flow up to me no matter what. Whereas I don't know that other guy, like didn't Jason Garrett say no to a couple of potential defensive coordinators or thinking of some guy up that went to Green Bay? Just that there was, you know, worry. Do you know what I'm talking about?

The name? Okay. The two coordinators that he's hired, listen, it's the Cowboys. If they have a good to great year, both of these guys will be interviewing for headcount. coach jobs next year. They won't get them, most likely, but they will both be interviewing for head coaching positions. When you're the Dallas Cowboys, if you're operating correctly, I feel like

your OC and DC should be taken from you once every few years at the very least. And he knows that. Right. Just like the Sean Payton thing, he didn't even get to be the technical OC, but he was the up-and-comer. He's with the Dallas Cowboys. That obviously helps the brand. your personal brand. So it's in their best interest that Christian Parker is so good that other teams are like, we want him as a head coach. And then if you're Brian Chottonim, you're like, hey, look at this process that I went about to find him. I'll do that same thing again.

But at the same time, with how everything turns over so quickly in NFL, he probably will have two or three head coaches that just got fired that are defensive guys that will be in the mix as well, too. There's no shortage. These staffs don't stay together forever. Anybody that's like, it's an outlier when you are able to keep Steve Spagnolo. It is an outlier when you're able to keep Vic Fangio year after year. Like that's not common in the way the NFL coaching circles are now.

And now, and I'm not sure that I would have ever thought about this because I never really thought about who the Schottenheimer's knew. But I trust his Rolodex. So if he's got a call, I loved a lot of the names they were talking to that they didn't hire. I now trust him to have another He might not be Christian Parker He might not be Clayton Adams But they're not I don't think Brian Schottenheimer

Is going to call another guy his age or older It seems that his Rolodex is Younger dudes that the Joneses Might not really even have any connection to We're way ahead of ourselves Yeah But I mean at the same time They did something way different

And if it works Those guys won't be here for too long I mean some of his stuff is sucking me in Now I think he's goofy I think he's goofy I think he's I think he's, what do you call him? Like therapy speak.

Well, there's a lot of things. The laugh, love. But right now, I think he's Ted Lassow. He's kind of like a human monogram pillow, you know? Like he's just a saying that you're like, that feels good. I don't know if there's anything to it, but it feels pretty good. Yeah, live, laugh, love. But if you hire the right people.

Faith, family football. Then that becomes pretty much your only job is Vy. and keeping everyone rowing in the same direction. I hire the right people and bringing in enough talent, and things will take care of itself. I don't know that there was the greatest everything behind the scenes in Philadelphia, and they were able to overcome some things and win a Super Bowl. So I don't know that you absolutely have to have everybody loving each other

and all that. You're going to deal with a lot of egos, a lot of different personalities, and so maybe his style helps with that. I mean, you know, it would be tough to give you the percentages on who deserves, serves the most credit for George Pickens, not being Pittsburgh Steelers George Pickens last year. And I'm not saying that Brian Chonheimer would be at the very top, but he's in that mix of probably how he went about it seems from the outside looking in, much different than Mike Tomlin. And so maybe that helped.

I think Dak Prescott's probably maybe a little bit bigger a role there. Obviously the relationship George has with CD, but Brian has to be a factor in there as well. Yeah, I wonder how much, Dak. because DAC did go through being franchised and then came out on the other side looking perfect. But he's also, he's just, he's way better at football than any of the other quarterbacks George has had either. So that allows you. He's more likely to. Right, to listen to what he's saying and just overall be happy with your job because you can run the greatest routes and you can dominate every defensive back you go against.

But if the guy can't get you the ball, it doesn't really matter. So he has a guy that has been able to get him the ball better than anybody else in his life. So that probably helps out quite a bit as well. Yeah. And yeah, I'm surprised that it went as smoothly as it like that George Pickens is just here. I can't believe it. And it's not a hold-in or something. I can't believe it.

And even all the back and forth now that the time has passed, all the back and forth with the Micah stuff that went on out here. Is he going to be out there working with the defense? Is he going to be over there throwing footballs with deck? How much of a jersey is on? Is he going to have the jersey on? is he going to be laying on a training table, and there wasn't really any moment you can look back on that you point at Brian, you know, and keep in mind, also part of that job is being at minicamp and you're running practice and in the middle of the two fields. It's just Jerry and Michael Parsons having a conversation for 45 minutes during your minicamp practice. You have to be able to handle that.

They were just standing there? Yeah, and that's the last time that they talked, really, is that mini camp practice that, yeah, they went out and Jerry was talking to Mike in the middle of the two. fields at the star and yeah it went on for the majority of the practice and that was the last like real time because they didn't really talk out here at all i forgot how crazy last year was yeah until the other day i came across the it was michael irvin interviewing jerry about like right after it all went down and then jerry giving his side of the story and michael the you know because michael remembers going in there and hat and hand to Jerry and it all worked out.

That's wild. You got to give shoddy credit for just plowing forward. And yeah, I mean, a player died last year. That is quite the year. Yeah, they did. So on one hand, you're like, wow, you had a healthy quarterback all year long. You had these two great receivers,

a running back who kind of hit, and you went seven wins? Yeah. It's disappointment, but I think it's disappointment in a way that you could build some optimism to the next year. It feels like the arrows at least pointing up. In a sense, too, that the defense can't be worse. That helps. Historic bad.

So the Quentin, Jerry still thinks his name's Quentin. Yeah. The Quentin deal gets done the other day. I was standing there as you were talking to him yesterday. You just talked, Michael and Quentin. You might not even know what's going on, but yeah. So they get that deal done. and I'm actually like cowboy fan.

Dan's probably more just devil's advocate. I think that's a great deal because I know his sack numbers the last whatever year two or down. I just know that when he showed up here, it felt night and day. Like you can still see. He's a jump off the page physical presence. Those guys age about as well as anyone in the NFL.

So, I mean, from your perspective, do you think it's an overpay? Do you think this is something they're regretting? Are you surprised they did it, when they did it? Well, they can't be regretting it yet. It's been two days. No, do you think it's a sort of thing where I think in a couple years, five or six more guys get signed every 18 months, and then he's the 12th highest paid defensive tackle.

You're happy with his leadership. I don't see a huge drop-off just right around the corner. Yeah, no, I loved everything about it. Even though I think you can make the argument they might have overpaid on what they gave up for him. You know, that was a big thing that day of the trade. I remember a lot of national writers being critical of that, which made me laugh because of the fact of that that means that you're siding with that you think the New York Jets are in their bag and they know what they're doing. You know, that's a tough spot to be in when you're backed up against that wall. So I didn't, I like the trade at the time and what they paid him when you when you factor that out over five years.

I think that that is a very good deal for a position that is extremely important, a way more important than I think. people give it credit for. And also, he's elite at a position that it's not like they are wide receivers where you're like, I, we'll invest another first round pick next year. You can just take the Dallas Cowboys. You don't have to follow any other team. And you can just see when they invest that first round pick in Mazi Smith, how that was not, I mean, you didn't even get just, hey, well, he's not going to be a pro bowler, but we're going to have a solid start. No, you didn't even get, you didn't even get a guy that you can put in your rotation. So there's, to get an elite defensive tackle that at the very

worst, I don't know anybody would rate him outside the top five defensive tackles in the game, and you could argue that he is the best. I thought the deal was great. I don't think they overpaid there. And even if they did a little bit, this is a team that people are usually critical of in free agency, that they don't spend

enough, that they are too cheap, that they don't, oh, why didn't you spend a little bit more money on to get Devin Lloyd or Quay Walker and Jacoby Dean? So when they do go out and maybe overpay a little bit, I'm probably going to be one of the last people that criticize it. We have a problem with something out here, Camp. We're going to bring this to your attention.

Do you have that picture, Clayton? I was going to show it on the YouTube show. It'll show the picture. But this is the tackling dummy that they have out at Camp. Oh, yeah. You've seen this, of course. Yep. And to describe it to the audio audience, which is the majority,

it's like a mannequin nowadays. It's not just a big piece of fun. foam. It has facial features. Yeah. But it's pretty similar, though, to whatever, I don't even remember what was popular at the time, but there was some type of a workout thing that brought those on. And so those things were like...

Some kind of a jujitsu? It was, yeah. Like the self-defense thing. And honestly, it's the same facial features and everything, so I'm pretty sure they just took the mold from that and just started being like, hey, let's branch out to NFL tackling dummies now. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's like a Taibo dummy. Yeah.

I was going to say Taibo, but I didn't want to sound like a complete idiot, but I think that that's where it started from. Well, my first problem. Because you can adjust the height on it too so that you can kick it in the face and stuff like that for the Taibo crowd out there, you know. My first problem is that it's wearing a Cowboys jersey. Yeah, yesterday we were theorizing why not a commanders, why not an Eagles? It should absolutely that.

Why not an ISIS uniform? Who doesn't love going viral in this world? then they would go viral. Look at how they got the Eagles jerseys on them today. Yep. And then, yes, the other one is Jake said the same thing earlier.

The facial mold is like, leave it to Beaver's dad. It's a guy from the 50s with like the most squared away union haircut you've ever seen. That kind of white guy hasn't existed in 60 years.

Who's our old guy that watched Ellen? Chuck Bednerick from the Eagles. Yeah. Set your watch to that dummy. To that crew cut. Yeah. It just, it seems antiquated yet. Yeah.

I think we could help fix this. Anything seemed different at all this year? I remember last year we were all the noise. It was like loud. It was shoddy, right? It was last year was loud. It was louder than we'd heard before. Oh, the music company?

Yeah. Mike McCarthy wasn't big into blaring a ton of music. He did a little bit, but the practices were certainly quieter. So, yeah, there's that. There's the running after practice that's become a storyline that's really just more of a. If I know John Machota, I know he loves that story. So, I need to share an opinion on that. So there's levels to this.

Do I love it in the fact that I'm like, this is so cool, man. These guys are the best. Or I'm like, this will do numbers on social media. It's more of the latter. What are we talking about? I've been covering this team for, I'm going to year 16. If you guys think I buy into anything that goes on here. I haven't been there for any of the Super Bowl run.

I grew up as a kid watched Super Bowl runs. I haven't been there for any of that. Haven't even been there for an NFC championship game, with which I never thought I'd see the day that the Lions got to one of those. And then the following year, the Washington Commanders got to one of those. So please, for the record, don't think that I buy into anything. Honestly, I don't buy into anything anymore until mid to late January.

I mean, stay healthy. Can you win a couple games in January? That's what this team will be judged on. You're talking about the running after the scrimmage, right? Yes. It happened yesterday, too. Yes. Oh, it did?

After practice broke up, they ran on their own? Yeah. Yep. Yes, and that is the storyline. It used to be communa, what? Communication. You ever heard that? I have.

I have. The Gruden interviewing Kellan Moore. Because I'm from, you know, I've heard Jason Garrett-Royt kind of guys. Mike McCarthy's had a little bit of that, obviously with Ryan Schottenheimer. and there's no, like, real deep playoff run. So I'm actually, I kind of lean more towards, get like 30 of the most talented crazy dudes and just throw them out there if they're good at football

and let's just see what happens. Yeah, but they always say we're getting the right kind of guys, and then they go get Greg Hardy. So it's just things they say. It is, it is, but it is a narrative that they push out there a lot, that if you aren't following it closely, you probably get a little nauseated by it, I think. Yeah, but it was communication.

So we're basically just blaming that's Iber Fluse, right? This guy didn't talk to anybody. The players didn't talk to each other. Yeah, teaching was a big part too. Like, I don't know. Like, that was another one that they were really looking for a teacher in their next DC. You know, someone that, in other words, probably more relatable today's player. Today's player is not sitting in a meeting room watching film cutups.

Most of them wouldn't be for just hours on end. You've got to get in there, have a quick message. You better hit it and get out. Because you're going to lose the guys the longer that you're in there. And I mean, obviously, these younger players, they don't know anything but the social media world we're in. So it kind of makes sense why you would be conditioned like that. You're not really trying to watch long film. Give me the 15 film breakdowns in like a three-minute clip so I can knock those out.

So that's all part of it too is how does your teaching style fit in with the current player? We're talking about the current player the other day. Just the thought, when they say something like, you know, players these days, they want to know the why. They want you to walk them through the steps on why they're doing this. It's said almost with this disdain that the players, like the society sucks and humans younger than me suck. Clearly we all know that. but you know what I'm going to do it I will teach them the why when instead of what if we said you know what if the way we were doing it 30 years ago by just screaming at you and saying don't ask just do it what if that wasn't the best way of teaching in fact maybe that's why everybody's telling the why now because somebody learned you know what that was a mistake that those people were doing but instead somehow they transpose that onto it's the people it's the players that we're teaching because they suck we'll we'll we'll go

ahead and tell them why uh and you don't think that's because of the times we live in now where there are so many conspiracy theories that can get going because of social media where i just feel like the older back in the day player without even having the internet much less everything on your on your phone you don't need to explain as much why because they don't know as much of what's going on They're not as connected with everything else that's going on out there, that way you are today. I mean, a kid today is going to know everything about, and probably it hurts you too,

because you probably know too much about things that you don't need to know as opposed to just focusing in on the one thing, you know. And I'm sure the NIL side bringing it up. That adds, I mean, you know, this year, this is the most I've ever heard players that were drafted, mentioned no state tax in Texas. That's because these guys are coming from the NIL era. They know.

There weren't guys before that were going to be privy to that. And that's just because you just wouldn't know about that, you know? I guess maybe that's part of it, but a lot of it, to me, maybe it's anecdotal too, is that I never liked getting screamed at and said, just do it. Yeah. But if you did take one more minute, it's not going to kill you to kind of, and then, oh, that makes perfect sense. Let's do it. So I think everybody's wired differently, though, because I'm from the.

the belief of Bill Belichick, Vic Fangio, I don't know that they're sitting there doing Ted Lasso stuff, but if you can tell me, just worry about this, this, and this, and on Sundays, I ball out and I'm making more money and we're getting

rings, you don't care if he's really he's cool with my kids and he takes pictures. You're like, he gives me the recipe to dominate and be successful. I'm going to listen to that guy. It's military, you know? The different degrees of and there is physical violence involved,

so sometimes thinking they have to cut that part out. But I also think if you understand why you're doing something, you'll probably do it harder. I wanted to play a very brief part of one of your colleagues, Kay Adams, was out here yesterday, and got a sit-down with everyone. We've got slim pickings over here, and I looked this morning, Kay Adams has Shottie, she's got Jerry,

she's got Dax, she's got CD. Well, keep going to gameday. Dot Dumbzone.com, and you might be hot enough. someday to be able to draw. So of course she's going to ask all of them about the running and I thought this was good. You know great example we scrimmage the Rams the other day and we're working and I didn't have conditioning plans. And they said we're running. So they asked me and say hey back to the player led team like they wanted to do it and so they did it.

And it just these guys are willing to put the work in to get to where we got to go. And that's a huge, huge part of it. Who's the they? Who is the one that said we're going to run? I think it started with overshone and to then to DAC. And then it was happening. You know, that's because of you though, right? Well, you're not going to take the compliment. No, I'm not going to take the compliment. That's them.

And again, that's them understanding that. Okay, so he handled that well, but that's because of you, coach. That's because of you. I will say, though, I listen to that too. He's the one who initiate. She didn't say, hey, what about the running after the game? She never said that. He brought it up.

And she's like that. He brought it up that they did that. And then it's, I mean, it's not me, though. I'll tell you guys, the best part of that, though, being there when this is going on is just the Rams players because they have to walk by that back end zone to get to where their locker room is. And just the S that they were talking to the Cowboys, like basically just making fun of them like, oh, didn't get enough working. Hey, keep running guys. And then so that just, I mean, lighter fluid to George Pickens. I mean, he almost wanted to not even keep running because he was just talking so much back to them.

Hell yeah. About how they're going to see him later on in the year and stuff. So as cheesy and corny as it might be the running part, for us standing on that back line, it was pretty entertaining to watch like real highly paid athletes, you know, talk ass back and forth because they're basically making fun of you. I think it's fun to be reminded that they care. Yeah. Like I know you're a jaded guy by nature, but I just, I do think sometimes being reminded there's no amount of money that you could pay them to make them to where they don't just want to beat the other guy. And you don't really see that as much like during the season. season, but out of here you do.

Yeah. That's what I love about it. Well, and the other thing is about those practices is that the way the NFL's changed, those have become so important because that's when your starters are going to play. That's why they're adding two this year. And you can just sense that both sides are just like, yeah, let's finally hit because you don't want to hit your guy in practice. You can't touch the quarterback.

If you accidentally touch the quarterback, your coach is pulling you out of a drill, whereas you do it there, yeah, you're going to get chewed out or whatever, but it's closer to an actual real game that it's not just training camp. you're not experiencing that mini camp OTAs none of it. It really goes from whenever your last game goes, you're not doing pads or hitting or anything until training camp. And even during training camp, you're not even tackling to the ground. So it's really between the end of the regular season last game and week one.

And I think I saw you right. They did maybe more 11 on 11 than usually. Like it was just right to. It was incredible. That's awesome. Now, I will say I also think a factor in that is that they don't allow video. The Rams don't during team drills. So it was like, we're going to have guys warm up a little.

bit would do that. We're getting right into team drills. No one's going to be able to video this other than obviously our own teams and stuff like that. But it was, it was like three different periods of just like we're going to go at it. One's against the ones. Not any of this getting up to the line, audiblying, anything. It was just like we're getting into our plays. We're running the basic stuff. We're getting this time in. Because these starters are not playing for either team in the regular season. And especially with that practice, because you are watching what you think, hey, these could be two with the best offenses in the NFL. They don't allow video.

Next Tuesday Saints? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. Oh, nice. We'll be here. Yeah, that'll be good. I know it's funny rules, the not allowing video here or there. Have you seen Deons, the new Colorado stuff?

I just saw that last night, yeah, yeah. Not allowed it at all or what? It's really, really, yes, restrictive. They're having a, I guess they're selling tickets too to having an open practice. But they're not allowing any video or anything to report it from what was that practice. So if somebody gets injured, you cannot even report it. You have to drop your phone in a bag when you get there.

You can't say that this guy played more than this guy. You can't say anything. Why would you go? Yeah, I honestly don't know. I can't imagine. I've never covered any college. So I know there are different rules like that. But covering the NFL, I know there are teams.

There's tons of teams that have signs up. They don't want their fans taking video when they're there. So the media can't either. I'm sure the Cowboys coaching staff would love for that to happen here, where there's signs up saying, hey, guys, you can't post any video or whatever, and our media can't do it. Jerry is just fine with all of it. So that's why it continues to go.

But, yeah, I know the players and coaches don't love it. I mean, before that Rams practice, Joe Milton sought me out in a very, kind way and basically told me I'm posting too much video that I'm putting too much out there. But I'm doing my job. How do they select Joe Milton to go talk to John Machota? I think he just saw it probably on social media himself, you know. I'll always remember. I'm telling you, I'll always remember the exact year, but the receiving room was Des, Cole Beasley, and Terrence Williams.

And man, that 15 minutes after the game was over, the cool down period, they knew exactly everything that was tweeted and put out there about them. That was when I first realized I'm like, oh, yeah, this social media thing is completely out of the bag. Now you see it obviously halftime and stuff like that that guys are checking it. So they're very aware. I mean, you're going to search your name and stuff like that. Yeah, I know that they don't love it. But the part for me why I'm all into it and I post a ton is because other teams will allow you to at least post something video-wise during the season.

It could be DAC in front of his locker. It could be some of the first 10 minutes of practice. once we get back to the start, we can't post video of anything. It doesn't matter if it's outside the locker room, anything, it's just still pictures. So, you know, from the social media side when you're trying to work on your TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter. This is it. Which your bosses care about, right?

Yeah, but I care about it too, though. Yeah. Because your bosses care about it, right? I mean, that's part of it, but I care about it a lot, too. Pride. Are you TikTok guy? Yeah, he just got on it, yeah. Oh, wow.

I mean, this is a team that once put out their own draft board video, right? And Jerry, like, laugh that off. Like the big board in the draft room? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, eh, whatever. Yeah, Jerry doesn't mind any of the stuff getting out. But when you have Christian Parker saying things, like they used some of the stuff that we post out here when he was with the Broncos and he was with the Eagles. Obviously, I can see how players would hear that and coaches would hear that and go, yeah, why don't we limit some of that?

Now, I've heard Shottie in the exact same press conference, though, like in the beginning, this was a few days ago. I'm sure you were sitting there. He's like, I mean, it doesn't really matter. We've all got the film. We all see the same thing. It doesn't even matter at all. And then later in the same press conference, he's like,

actually, we don't want you guys to see that, or I'm not going to tell you what we were doing at Pratt. Like, okay, which one is it? Yeah. Do we all see all the film, or is it that we have to, keep things secret. Like he said, oh, yeah, in the Graham's game, we're not going to show him a lot. We don't want to show him anything.

I just thought we just said we all had the film. Well, that's because he's in the middle, and on one side is your coaching staff, and they don't want any of it. But on the other side is the guy that runs the whole thing and will tell everybody they can leave whenever he wants. And so you have to kind of be the middle guy where you're not like to Jerry Jones, but you also got to be like sticking up for your coaches. So he is in a tough spot.

And that will always be the Dallas Cowboys head coach. Well, when Jerry's, as long as Jerry's around. Yeah. It's an interesting dynamic with PR, too, because sometimes I feel like even they are, like Jerry would just stand there forever, but the PR guy feels like it's his job to... Which is fun for me,

because you can tell, like, the people that aren't around a lot, we'll start by, oh, we've got to wrap this up, and I'm like, what? I saw it yesterday. When we're done asking questions, we'll wrap it up. Like, they're, Quinn and Williams are going to the podium. Cool. Dude, that was really funny.

Why we roll off the names of how many people could be at that podium that I would leave Jerry for? Yeah. I mean, it would have, I mean. I think this is it right. Denzel Washington, maybe. Oh, you recorded that? Here, let me see.

I wouldn't have got the other. Leonardo Caprio. But I might just see what we see. Quentin's up at the stage right now. If you want him, huh? Okay, Quentin's up at the stage. If you want him. Any players have surprised you at training him.

Yeah, I like, and of course, I'd be like, right. Did anyone leave? A few people. Yeah, a few people. Yeah, yeah. The other thing, though, I want to add in there, though, that's because also for me because we don't, I know people aren't going to believe this,

but we really don't get Jerry as much as we used to. You know, Valley Ranch was great, you know, just walking around, just smaller building, not all the key cards you have at the new place. But then Jerry just doesn't come out to the practices as much. Like I talked about him coming out and talking to Michael last year at Minicamp. He didn't go to any OTAs or Minicamp. We didn't even see him any of the practice as much less him walk off and us grab him real quick. And so even out here, like there's a few times we'll get him. But there was times we came out here where you could pretty much set your schedule to we'll get him at least once a week or multiple times and stuff like that. So we don't get him as much as people think anymore. Like there's also that

misconception that he talks after every single game. He talks after every home game, but it's becoming less and less on the road. So he is dialing it back a little bit. Now that's a tweet that I look forward to every year. Someone, someone national, Jared and talk after this loss on the road. Yeah, this means something. Yeah, yeah. It's the Cowboys. You could look it up. So on your podcast, you guys will often talk some movies at the end of the podcast. Yeah. And I've noted some similarities in you and me.

Okay. In that, like, you have some movie rules, right? Yeah. I mean, you've had these. They're for myself, though. They're not for anybody else. Like, if you love sci-fi, go watch it, I don't have time for it. Oh, really?

Okay, I didn't know that side. Cosine. No. Okay, you're more with Jake on that one. He's the one that had, like, he wouldn't watch something before they had computers. Like, I thought Game of Thrones was going to be kind of like gladiator. And then dragons started coming out, and then dead people started coming back alive, and I was never more out on anything.

Like, I just, what are we doing? I have no time for it. I'm with you on, like, the White Walkers. Right, I was ready to say, okay, dragons exist? All right, in this world, dragons exist. I'm sure of it, because that lady is the mother of dragons. but then that's all I wanted. And I've seen a lizard.

If you're going to throw one in there. You know? And I can't do these movies either where it's just like something really cool happens. Then they're just like, ah, he was sleeping. That was a dream. And then this person dies are like, nope, that was a dream too.

And it's just like, all right, where are we going here? Now, it's not even fun watching this anymore. So you're not a big fan of like the Bible. Jake used to, didn't you used to say you won't watch anything set in the woods? That was him, I'm pretty sure. Is it not you? I get that one.

an attribute to me, but I don't remember. That was like the Game of Thrones, I thought it was. I was super out on Game of Thrones because it was Dragon. It was sci-fi. But I watched it, and I tricked myself into thinking it was kind of about, like, politics. Yeah. Also, you got to have one show with your wife, or I used to when I cared about such a thing. About your wife, yeah.

Before you had two kids. Yeah. When you cared about it. She watches all of it, all the shows. If you need a review, she's seen it. Yeah, see if I like something, I'd rather watch it. Our wives should do a show together about... Let them.

Like, if I see something I'd like... You're going through it. Yeah, I'll just watch it over and over again over something that I'll be like, where are we doing it? Like Oppenheimer, I love Oppenheimer. I've probably seen that five or six times. Have you gone to see The Odyssey yet? I have not. I have not.

I've heard that that will be a tough watch for me, but I'll try it out eventually. Um... It'll be a tough watch. Oh. Because of some... Mythological beasts? Yeah.

You don't like mythological? I'm just whatever. I generally agree, but I... I'm not even making a joke now. When we saw it, I thought of it. Like, this is like watching the Bible. These are stories. I'm just not into the people either with movies like that.

They just want to throw it in your face that you got to watch this in 4 billion millimeter I, max, blah, blah, blah. Like, I saw someone tweet, like how somebody comes up to you and says that. And you're like, yeah, cool, watch it in three or four months in the back of my Delta seat on my next flight. Like, I mean, what are we doing here? But Jonah's going to watch it on his phone. Yeah, exactly. No. No, I'll give you a good example.

Like, I want to see that movie, but not as much as I want to see. that I just saw like a preview for, and I could see this movie not even being great, but for me, I know I like it. It's like Jeff Daniels is Ronald Reagan. And then the guy from Chernobyl, that series, that he was awesome in Chernobyl. He plays Gorbachev. Like, that's something where, like, when it's, I'm sure it's,

there's going to be they take their own liberties with things, but like that type of stuff. Again, like Oppenheimer. I'm super into those. NFL, first NFL coach fired odds. I was just looking at what they're doing. Oh, you already know? No, I don't know.

I don't remember exactly what they were. Who's the most secure coach in the NFL? Well, yeah, it's probably Dan Campbell or Ben Johnson. I'm telling you, Dan Campbell was quick. Dan Campbell was way high in that list, the one I looked at. He was like top 10. The most secure coach is Mike McDonald, along with Sean McVeigh. According to Vegas, they will not be fired, or they're the least likely to be fired.

But the most not secure coach, Aaron Glenn, year two. Easy. Easy. Why? That's what I was going to guess. Because they didn't have an interception all year and he's a defensive backs coach and they have no plan and Gino's their quarterback and their division's a nightmare. There's not a ton of really obvious ones. I mean, I guess you could say because of the off-the-field stuff that potentially if things got out of control in New England, that maybe it would be variable.

But I just think that he's pretty tight with ownership. They did go to the Super Bowl last year, so. He's too high up there. He's like eighth, but I wouldn't think very well. Being from Detroit, Dan Campbell was way too high from when I'm like, do you understand like before he was there? Like, who are you getting instead of it? Right.

In only a couple of years, it's, no, this isn't enough for us. Right. Completely changed the culture to where everybody cares about the lions. Yeah, okay. Todd Bowles is second. That makes sense. They had a pretty big second half collapse last year. No fault of their course.

quarterback. Everybody knows that. Zach Taylor is third. Makes some sense, right? Yeah. Then Shane Steichen. Is that just because the lady's in control? That's a horribly misogynistic thing to say.

Or maybe it's a compliment. And 100% true? I think the problem with them is just expectations got so far out of whack with their Yeah. 7-0 12-point margin winning streak, and then their quarterback-old.

Were they 7-0? It was something crazy. Okay. I will say, though, that I also, thinking of that whole thing, how that went down, reminds me this Rams practice. I love the idea of how you have an owner of the team with a headset on the sidelines and how just crazy would be around here if that happened. I'm at that Rams practice.

And, like, maybe you guys don't hear a ton of this, and maybe I just am sensitive this, but the people talking about the hotel by the star and the Dr. Pepper building, go walk around this place the Rams practice at. I mean, it's got so many buildings around it. And so I'm talking to some Rams riders. They're telling me that, yeah, that building over there, that's the one where TMZ just somehow got up there,

and they're the ones that got the first shot of Aaron Donald practicing or whatever. I mean, it is just surrounded by it. And this is a team that, I mean, you can argue it's the best right now in the NFL, they're probably the favorites to win the Super Bowl, one of the best run organizations, no video during practice or whatever, you know, so it's all they're so buttoned up, whatever. Place is surrounded by buildings. And that's not their Oxnard.

That's their facility. That's where they practice all the time. That's where they get ready for the playoffs in. But nobody talks about that. No context. Nobody talks about that. And don't put me in a position where I got to stick up for Jerry here. But, I mean, seriously, I'm looking around going, like, nobody talks about this.

Isn't a big deal? Number five on first head coach Fire Dodds, Brian Schottenheimer. That just seems crazy to me. I think he's pretty, I mean, if this season went terrible, okay, but I don't see a scenario at all where he would get fired during the season where we know the NFL, someone's getting fired during the season. Oh, yeah. I was just wondering, is it because it's the Cowboys

and they every year just put the Cowboys coach at number five? Because it feels like that's always where McCarthy was, too. Honestly, I looked the other day, and he was, like, ninth or tenth and coach of the year odds. McCarthy? No. Oh. Which is silly, but it's the reverse thing of the Cowboys' Pull. Like, he's more in the middle, but they're putting him high on both these lists.

Yeah, Jerry went an executive of the year in 2014, where it's like, oh, the Cowboys had this great year that nobody was expecting. It's the same thing with Dak. Like, if Dak plays, if he's neck and neck with these other quarterbacks for MVP, Cowboys win 13 games. he's probably beating those guys. Like, I'll give you the perfect example is last year. If he's neck and neck with Drake May and Matthew Stafford because they won 13 games, Dak Prescott's won an MVP.

How did Matthew Stafford get a 99 rating? Because he's awesome. Was he that good? That he should be the only quarterback in the NFL with a 99? Oh, not the only one, but he's certainly one of the top. I mean, if he's healthy, he's as good as anybody. Okay. Well, I mean, the number one.

That's it? I don't know. No one else in the NFL is better than Matthew Stapher. effort. I don't know if anybody is better right now. I don't know that Josh Allen or Petram Holmes are better right now. They might be just as good, but I don't know that they're better. But he is

also touching that Romo territory where, you know, the offensive line misses one block and he gets the wrong hit. I mean, he's getting up there and he's had back issues, so. So you're a huge fan, right? Oh, yeah. Detroit and all that. Well, that and then also just because

I was always against the people that were blaming him up there. And it took him so long when he left to win a Super Bowl. He had to be the problem. Well, that's... No, it's actually pretty quick. It's very Romo. Yeah. We just didn't get to see it. I'll tell you, speaking of the Romo thing, watching that...

The rest video? Yeah, the rest video. It really made me think when I was watching that thing. Now, I don't know what he was... What he had to drink, whatever, how much of a show he was putting on with the stretching and all that. But when I was watching that and the way he was talking about his back, it literally made me think of how I was like, man, I think he really would have played somewhere else if it was like, Dad got the job, so we're moving on.

I think he would have done a Brady where he's like, oh, really, New England? You think you can do this without me? Now, he's obviously not going to go to a bad team, but if there was like a Denver or somebody that was like really good and he was a missing piece, I think Romo would have kept playing outside the cow. I think the back is the one that was like the, man, I'd love to show them that they were wrong, but it's in such bad shape that I can't even, I can't come close to doing that.

And I believe it because, and I'm not asking you to blow anybody spot up, But everyone I ever knew who was around the team was like, this guy ain't really working out all that much. It wasn't like he was, he's the type of guy that if his back ended up jacked up, you're like, yeah, I could see that. Kind of the Nico blaming Lucas conditioning on his injuries? Like say what you want about DAC and freak injuries, and they will happen.

But it's very clear to me the level of care and precision that he operates with. Okay, so DAC, I will say, is like a center fielder in baseball. where Romo was more like a pitcher, and I don't know if you guys have seen, like, those pictures going around lately at Paul Skeens, where I'm not saying Romo had, like, a gut like that or anything like that,

but he would be more like your pitchers, like, and he's taking care of himself better, because I don't know if you've seen those pictures recently of Clayton Kershaw since he retired. I mean, he's gotten pretty big. Excellent. But there's just, like, a lot of pitchers that they're like, scoble's like that, where you're just like,

he knows he has a pitch every five days or whatever. He's not killing it all the time and all these other things. but he knows that his talent, just as long as I'm healthy and I'm out there, I don't need to do all this other stuff. I'll be fine, you know, so. And honestly, I don't know if he worked all the, if he was the craziest workout guy, if the back wouldn't have happened.

I mean, backs are pretty tricky things. Some guys get them, some guys don't, you know. All right, man, so what's your deal today? You got to watch this walkthrough? I'm going to watch this walkthrough, probably tweet out some bits. Is this weird? I don't think I've ever seen a public walkthrough, like, they're usually like in and out. It is rare.

had one, I think they had one last year, but it wasn't like an open to the public. It was for volunteers and people that worked at it all year. And then, yeah, we grabbed some people coming off the field and then they went to whatever preseason game. Okay. We may have a chance. Yeah. There'll be some postgame stuff. Yeah, there'll be a few players probably available. You probably grab some people off the field and stuff. All right. Well, thanks for joining us. Absolutely. One Star Cowboys podcast. Yeah, implore everybody to go. watch, listen to their podcast. I guess it's on video too.

I don't know. Who cares, right? As long as you go to John's TikTok. That's right. TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter. Okay. Just look at my name.

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Kay Adams and Jerry. I give you a little bit of Jerry if you want. I enjoy that. So yesterday, I don't know that we properly stopped down for this, but an older gentleman came ambling by, hunched over, and a big white T-shirt and like sweatpants. And at first, I thought it was the late, the great Gil Branted,

who in this telling would actually be late and great. Because you would see Gil walking around here and he was like a hundred, but he still would, you know, he was the guy you saw moving around fast and hunched over. What was the bit that his shorts would be up a little high, like a millimeter higher

every year is like the tree rings. I tell you can tell. Every harvest season. Yeah, it was well above his belly button. by the time he passed away. So it turned out it wasn't Gil Brent it. It was Dustin Hoffman. And he was kind of scurrying by over to the VIP gate.

And then they brought him in. And then I saw a quote. Just out of... I don't know where. I think this is Cowboy Camp exclusive. Probably Rams Camp, I suppose, since they're near Hollywood. But it just... Like, where else are you going to just randomly?

see Dustin Hoffman. It's really weird. And Dustin Hoffman, we were wondering, is he a fan? Or Rob Lowe. What's this? Jamie Fox. Yeah.

Billy Jean King. Who once, Jason Garrett once had talk to the team. That's right. One of the funny. Did we ever do a, what was their record after?

You know, like Tony LaRusa came in one year, and then their record was 13 and 3. I don't think we have. We need to kind of track that. Well, put Dustin Hoffman on the list. This from John, who was just with us,

he was asked what he thinks about the Cowboys, quote, I don't know anything about football. I think they're great. That's not a good old man answer. That's not a big endorsement. Of all time. Let me see if this is the Jerry I want. I gave a two because we had the picks.

Okay, hold on. Let me go back one. This one. What's your favorite, Dustin Hoffman? movie and what was it like to have him out here? Now he starts pantomimiming like climbing or trying to break into something. What's your favorite Dustin Hoffman movie

and what was it like to have him out here? At the wedding. His girl was getting married to somebody else. Oh, he's at the glass in the graduate. All right, at the top of the, all right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he's doing the shaking. Yeah, okay.

At the wedding. And they're like, the graduate. But he doesn't know. He's like, whatever he said. So they're playing charades, whatever, yeah. His girl was getting married to somebody else. Words with Dan. Where's your chair?

And I liked him in Marathon Man, too. That's pretty much. So we're going early 70s movies, I believe, here. He's a great guy. He's really a great guy. Why wouldn't he be? What? He's interested in us out here today and enjoy meeting.

That's pretty much it. Wait, he just met him? He just said he's great and it was nice meeting him. I'm teasing. He's a great guy. He's really a great guy. Why wouldn't he be? But we sure enjoyed his interest in us out here today and enjoyed meeting him.

Okay, yeah, it's even more confusing now. It's very confusing. Because he said he doesn't know anything about football and he basically, like, but he's, Jerry is indicating that he showed the interest. Like, that kind of means he called us and he wanted to. to come to camp. But I would have thought that was because Jerry was good friends with Dustin Hoffman.

That doesn't seem out of control, right? No, it seems normal. Totally normal. But you could see there wasn't really like a guy with him. You know, he was just kind of... Like, what do you think? Dax's knowledge. Like, that probably knows Rain Man?

We were guessing Hook. Possibly. And meet the Falkers when you later remembered. Would you drop Did you think of like dropping some toothpicks near him and just seeing? Did you see the overworked Twitter joke about DAC meeting him? Rain Man meets Rain Man. Oh, comma.

I saw something else on Twitter today that I didn't know exists. Let's see it. It is the, do you know that we're doing, the NBA is doing schedule releases now? Yeah. So the bull... When did this start? This year. I'm sure somebody did it last year, but that's how it goes, right?

The NFL does it. We should do it, too. The Mavs did a spoof of the Key and Peel sketch where the teacher mispronounces names. Yeah. Very familiar. But Fony was missing.

It just didn't hit. It's like if they got Key, now we're talking. Right? That's what the Cowboys would have done. Well, they would have said, let's go get Keegan, Michael Key. He'll do this bit. We'll pay him a million dollars. I don't want to blow your spot up.

It would have been better if they'd paid one of them a million dollars. But the Cowboys are also notoriously safe on stuff like this. So I don't want to give them credit for being like the Chargers or slipping in a little Roosini thing. No, but they would have probably got a big name celebrity. But yeah, they've had Taylor Sheridan and. But yes, they would not slide in a Rusini funny. But the Mavs, the old Mavs might have. The old Mavs of Cuban and machine in that team of media people,

but now no chance. Just boring and unfunny. I mean, you want to make it pop. If Key's doing that, that thing is going viral. That's big. And it's probably funny. The writing is, but whatever. Good for them.

All right. Go, go Mavs. There was one. Now that the Rangers are done. They got me to football, because I was reminded last night. Okay, here's one I saw. And this is where I get mad at Twitter sometimes. You know, when someone does, like, the worst thing on Twitter

and everybody's comment is like, oh, this is so great. It's so great that your kid cried and then got free tickets or whatever. The Atlanta Hawks enlisted Oklahoma Nationals. of Samuel Henderson, who can imitate over 100 bird species. Oh, I'm very familiar with this kid. Have you heard him? He's a hero in the Spectrum community. Now, I have not heard him.

Yeah. He's been viral for a couple months now. Why should I? Because he's just on the Internet. It's incredible. You like it? Yeah. Well, I mean, so I should back off on saying the Hawks are dumb for doing it.

Like, this is great? No. It's better than Keegan Michael Key? No, like with anything, it was a good video at the beginning. Yeah. And I would say more redeemable than damn Daniel, you know? Like it's a kid who probably, it's one of those stories where you expect him to get made fun of. He's up doing a talent show, and instead the whole audience is like shack laughing because he just keeps switching from bird sound to bird sound.

Well, it's genuine. He's not trying to be funnier. No. That's like what he does is bird calls. And he's great at it. And he did it for a talent show in front of his school. And it was not meant to be a viral thing. That's just a kid in the sticks.

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that even drew in newcomers to the Hawks. So that's what... Right, that's the whole point of, right, the social media, We're like, yeah, if we get this thing, it goes viral, we'll get follow, we'll get new, like. Bird people. And that's what I'm to understand now is that the Hawks will sell more jerseys. Sportico just came out with a new valuation. Sit back Lakers.

Yeah, they've got the bird kid. I don't know. They're all kind of silly. I wish that somebody would get some bowls and do something funny, but we have to do our schedule release. love to do. What are we going to do? We have to do something and you want a guy to come up with something that's controversial and it shouldn't be done? There he is right there. I know every video we have, we have to edit out, Eben Al-Sad. But this one is just for us. It's not for a client. We can actually... Osama cannot be in the Fair Least video. Do it in the post-apocalyptic world that T.C. envisions within six or eight months, if I'm... following his thought process correctly.

I think we have a fake gun now. We own a fake gun because we've bought one for these videos. Yeah, so let your mind go crazy on schedule releases. See what's going on out there? Yeah, one more thing, and then we'll see what's going on out there. I thought this was TV talk, because I've seen a lot of things about this, and it's coming today, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, there's like a 30 for 30. Or there's like a Netflix documentary.

And it's called The Diary of a Polarizing Figure. Do you know what that is? I do. Like what's a play on? Do you know what the Diary of a Polarizing Figure is? I guess not. It's dropped today. It's an album.

Do you know who it's by? Is this the McAfee thing? It is. Pat McAfee has released an album. Why? Why are you a hater? He does a talk show. Why is he releasing an album?

Do you hate being cool sports America? I typically like people to stay in their lane and question why they leave it. Why is he doing an album? Does he not have enough money? Hater. Is he not everywhere already? I guess if you're a hater. You're not allowed to say anything mean about him.

Why? Because then you're just a hater. You hate his money? Is that just a fallback for every time you question what he does? It seems like that's all he ever. I guess you guys hate good vibes. It's like, I agree the guy does and generally kind of just have good vibes, but he does not like being criticized, boy. He came up in a different time.

This is a problem. He does have more radio host in him than most athletes do. But at the end of the day, he never made $21,000 a year to work overnight and have people tell him to go kill his family and they were going to rape his. He don't know shit. He's an NFL player, and now people are being mean to him. and he's like, it's literally the first time people are being mean to it. This album, people are like,

what are you doing? This is bad. And he's not handling. It's not good? It's not good? I haven't heard it. I kind of thought it would be awesome. It might be.

Cole Beasley had bars. Yeah. So I don't know. I hope we never hear it. I just hoping you'd give a review. You're the one who brought this up. It's a sports story. It's in our world.

None of them knew. I may not understand his world, but it's a part of mine. We should play it for some players. Okay. That's what we do. Like, they all love him so much. We're like, check this out. And they're like, this is dog shit.

This is Pat McAfee. Oh, yeah? Seems like every, I mean, it's all buddy, buddy. So what are we doing? We're doing that and WNBA talk with players. I like that. I would love the Enos Cantor. Not pathetical.

All right, what are we doing for today's break? Are we going to play the thing or not play the thing? What do you guys want to do? Let's play the thing. All right, so we had an interview yesterday? Who'd we interview? Josh Butler. He's got a crazy story.

He's a big player on special teams. I think we do need to preface. We tried to dance around a certain subject. Yes. Because we mentioned that at Michigan State on senior day, typically are escorted by your parents out, and he took his two dogs out, which landed him a pet co deal.

He did that because he lost both of his parents within two years at Michigan State. Yeah. And had we had Josh Butler for 30 minutes, we might have been able to get into it, but we're given a tight 10. And so there are certain things that we just don't broach. But, yeah, he lost his parents in mysterious. Well, not mysterious, but his mom almost had like a breaking bad situation. Let's just leave it as like they, he lost both parents and it comes up.

The guy got hurt last year. after my memory was jogging, I remember we were so desperate last year. Two years ago. Two years ago, when he first started the pop on Thanksgiving, it was like, oh, my God. There were plans for him to play just by being out of the league for three years. He had a really good game, and then they had to play four days later on Thanksgiving. So it was like we had a great corner for six days. And then spent all last year rehabbing and played in the last game.

And now he's forced to talk to us. All right. You want the Stinger? Yes. Oh, okay. The dumps a dumps a dumps a dumps. All right, we're here after practice on Thursday with Josh Butler. Thanks for joining this, man.

I've been a good to Josh Butler. Coming to the tent. How's it going? What's going on out here? Going pretty good. Defense is looking good. Offense looking good. Really competitive.

Really competitive. It's a lot of plays being made on both sides of the ball. So I'm just really excited for this first preseason game coming up this Saturday. Yeah, it's weird. In camp, plays are being made, you know, one of the sides is going to be bad then. I mean. Right, yeah. Yeah. Back throws a touchdown. That's great.

But, oh, no, that means the defense sucks today. Yeah, kind of. But we go back and forth a lot. So, like, he throws a hit touchdown and we'll get interception. You know, so it's like a constant battle all the time. Yeah. But that's what the media does. We ask you guys questions that there's really only when.

What were the chances you were going to sit down here and go, you know what? I'm not sure how well things are going. to camp today. Zero. Right, right. Things, we're not really putting in a lot of effort. And I'm not looking forward to this weekend's game either. Probably too late for roster decisions, but this thing's screwed.

Yeah, yeah. I'm going to run in there and tell Stephen who to trade for anyway. So your path, I don't think we know a ton about it. So you graduate from, or you leave Michigan State in 2019? Yeah, so I graduated with my master's degree from Michigan State in 2019. And that was around the time during COVID. So after that, we didn't have a pro day. Our pro day got canceled.

And I was basically just research and seeing what was next. And I networked in a bunch of different places, ended up landing in California. And I was in California for about three years or so doing like acting and production, working as a production assistant and making music and stuff like that. And literally for those next three years, I remember in 2021, I got picked up to the Spring League at the time. was two games. I only did two games in that. And then in 2022, I didn't have any opportunities after that. And then, 2003, thank God, I got a call from the USFL, which is now called the UFL, from Steve Kazar with the Michigan Panthers. And he was like, hey, do you still play football? It's been almost four years now out of college. So I was like, yeah. So it was just more so about

preparation. And I had all my highlights and stuff ready and prepared and my notes. And I sent all of my highlights over and he was like we want to sign you when can you be here I told him giving me about three days I packed up my 2006 Ford F-150 my two dogs and we drove from California all the way to Michigan and all I needed was that opportunity and I ended up making it there and then that literally the next day we had a scrimmage I played in that scrimmage after almost a three-day drive and I ended up making the team and so you know the rest was history I ended up playing really really well for that first year got picked up here for the dollars

Cowboys in 23. What are you doing for, so a couple years before you get into, you said you're working on acting and other things, production. You're also then getting up and working out and kind of had that dream? Yeah, always. It was a constant thing. I did a lot of stuff with my dogs, running with them, going to go hike. Even on set, I can call some of my directors and stuff.

Even on set, I was lifting weights on set, sandbags on set, and, you know, they'll see me working out, it was just more so of a grind or a mindset of keeping it in my mind, like, staying positive. I'm a football player. I am going to do this. You know, just speaking positivity into my life and speaking fruition of what I want. Incredible. This guy brings the kettlebells to camp.

So I understand what it's like to be with a grinder. Who has a master's degree? That's it. It's not slightly different. Although I don't know that either one of us are really using our degree that much, right? As far as you get to where you're getting, who cares how you got there. Yeah. But so during those couple years,

forgive me for asking, this IMDB page, is this yours? It's a, which was, it says like deadly thoughts. Yeah, all those are my years. So I got a couple of those on there.

I did a couple short films. And then I have an actors access page as well. And you can see a whole bunch of stuff on what I've done as production assistant and stuff that I worked on and projects that worked on. I've been on All-American as a background actor. You know, just little stuff like that.

commercials for like Fox. I've done a bunch of stuff, small movies and roles and stuff like that. So it was just a lot, you know, just grinding in that field, getting my feet wet and that and just take it every opportunity that I could. Does everyone out here, I mean, I now figure you're pretty public about this. You got to advertise yourself if you want to work in media, but does everyone out here know about this? And if so, does anybody? Yeah, a lot of my teammates know, and a lot of teammates come up to me all the time. Even someone of the new... I want to know how to do it. Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes they do. Some, Sometimes they ask a bunch of different questions about how I was acting or how you get into that and stuff like that.

And I give them a secret to the sauce all the time. So I know football doesn't last forever. And I know if somebody wants to become like an actor or something afterwards, you know, I got a little bit of knowledge for that. So it's easy to just tell them what to do. That's crazy to think about COVID though. We always see these guys now that are like on their eighth year because they got a couple COVID waivers and maybe an injury. But I don't know. Me personally, I didn't really think about the guys who were done then.

Like done in its 2020. Yeah. You probably know a bunch of guys who could play who could ball but just didn't, they got lost. Didn't get the opportunity, yeah. And the cracks there. Then you were just networking on your own. Yeah.

Yeah, just reaching out. You know, and I really utilized a lot of knowledge from my, like, academic advisors. So I would use them a lot. We at Michigan State provided academic advisors for us. I would ask questions. That's why I tell people all the time, not be afraid to ask questions because you never know what it leads you to. That's how I ended up

even making it to California. I asked them about people in production. I knew what I wanted to do. So I asked, he was like, yeah, I got a guy out there. You can start off as a production assistant with him. It took the opportunity. You know, that's as easy it is. You know, I just reached out. Is that what kind of money is there or is very, very low? I mean, I mean, if it's low, that's fine. But as long as I have something, I don't want to end up doing nothing at all, you know, and then just moving out there. There's no NIL in 2019 or nothing. like that but you know i was able to um get into social media and earn a few brand deals from there i got my first brand deal with petco and then i had that money to be able to move to california

and just started working how does that how does that work when you first get contacted by peckco uh usually they reach out through email or like did you have a lot of followers like at the time probably this because at that time there was around a time where i also walked the field with my two dogs, rocks and rim. So right after that, that's when they reached out to me. That blew up, okay. Uh-huh. Ah, okay, yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. Dogs like pet food. Yeah. Or at least we make them eat it. I don't know if they like it or not. Um, so your master's degree is media information. Yeah. What does that mean?

It's like media and information as part as the business of it. So like, I guess behind the scene stuff or like production or being a producer and stuff like that too. So I was doing mostly a. that in Michigan State. Yours are similar, right? Yeah. Yes.

Because he had a thesis on, like, just how big media failed and... Our internet might have been something to look into. Yeah. This internet is... It's probably not going away. So you're big on Instagram right now. Yeah. And is that...

Are you doing all of the production and stuff, or do you got a guy now? I do everything. Yeah, I still do everything by myself. Really? Okay, that takes some time. It does, but, like, I've been doing it for a little while now. I know what it takes to make it a lot. simpler for my life. So I run my account. I have my dog's account and then I just had a son.

So he even has his own account. So I run all three accounts and then, you know, it's just like that for Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, all the pages all at once, Facebook, all of that too. So I'm all over the place and just making it work. Is it just about pumping out, like you're trying some funny stuff? Yeah, funny stuff or just hoping something catches fire? I mean, yeah, pretty much. It's just more so about, like, finding something. And once you find something, and you just kind of repetitively do it over and over again. And then that's what you're known for.

Then you kind of get outside of that niche. Then people just love you for you. How'd you get on the, what, or explain to us, what is this Mr. Beast thing you were involved in? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they reached out to me. So, you know, I made a video about reacting to a guy who made a smart decision on one of his things. and they said they saw my video, they reached out to me via email.

I'm one of his challenges or whatever? Yeah, so I reacted to one of them challenges, and I was like, this guy is smart. I would pretty much do the same thing if I had the opportunity. And at the time, Mr. Bitt, you know, thankfully he was looking up stuff on how to find him, like his quote-unquote biggest haters

or people who think his challenges are easy. And so even though I didn't make a video like that, I ended up getting selected. So it was very random. It was 15 other random guys. I ended up not knowing what I was getting myself into at all, but very cool guy. Production was very smooth. Everybody was really nice, and it was like a last leave mansion video.

And in my mind, we was filming this in around April. So the whole thing took about four and a half months, but I was on there for two weeks. So my mindset was like, okay, I got realistically two weeks before OTA start. So how many people can I get out in two weeks before I have to leave for OTA? And I ended up eventually staying for like a week and a half or on day five or whatever in the video. And so I was like, all right, I couldn't get no. I got one person out, but that was about it. So, yeah, I don't even know what that means.

So, but I, because I've watched your recap video and you were saying I was close to getting my prank shown. But it didn't get. So what does that mean? Yeah, so I pulled about three pranks to try to get people to leave, but those didn't get shown. Like I said, it was about four months of footage. So the challenge is trying to get someone to leave. Yeah, so it's a last to leave challenge. So you stay in the house, the house is boarded off with a red line, you step over the line, you automatically out.

And so every seven days. Everything, yeah, it's like a reality TV show. Not the bathroom, no, but it's pretty much like a reality TV show. 20 years from now, we'll get to the bathroom. You know, everything just keeps moving. Yeah. All right, go ahead. Sorry.

Yeah, it's just one of those things that we put you in the house and you can't leave. no phones, no internet, no nothing. Wow. And so it's just you and 14 other guys and y'all trying to figure out, like, you know, how to do certain challenges. You can't pick anybody up and throw them out and stuff like that. So, you know, certain rules. But it was a fun challenge.

I enjoyed it, made some few friends from that, too. What was your best prank then? I had tried to trick people that I had, like, a production wire and the production team was telling me, hey, we got to meet at the basketball course, and the last person there is eliminated or something like that. I tried to pull that one and then another one, I got two other contestants to agree to like take all the weights and throw them out the window. And that's to eliminate like two. It was two people who loved the gym.

They just absolutely love the gym. And I was like, I use a gym, but I know how to do, I'm an athlete. I know I do calisthenics. That's fine. So we was trying to target certain people who like certain things. And then my last prank was to take all the food and freeze it. That way it's harder to unthaw and it makes people irritated and want to leave and go home. So like it was mind games.

Yeah, harmless, harmless pranks. It was way worse other pranks that other people was doing. So I don't want to pry. They was throwing mustard and ranch and stuff all over the walls and kicking doors down. It was a crazy video. And that was like day one, day two type of day. So we was like, what did we get ourselves into? So I don't want to pry if you've got kid now, but would you, would you, would you

It feels like you'd be a great choice for The Bachelor. For The Bachelor? Like they always want football. They always want somebody who's like, oh, I'm also a business person. I don't know. I thought I heard they vote the black guy first. Is that true or now? Well, not if you're the guy.

Oh, you're the bachelor. Yeah, they can't. They can't put you off. That'd be hard to do. That's a nogo. My lady would kill me. Yeah. Oh, okay.

So I didn't know. We knew a guy. We met a guy, listener of our show. What was the reality show? show. Love at First Sight. Love at First Sight. He was dating someone. You're not married. I am. Oh, okay. You said you're lady. I didn't know that. Okay. I'm from the south, so like when I say my lady, it's something a little bit more sweet. Well, he was in a serious relationship, and he just broke up with her when they called him and said, you have to be on Love at First Sight. He's still married today. Five years later.

That's crazy. They hooked them up, yeah. More than five, you. They've got spin-off level kids. Oh, yeah, they have kids and stuff. Yeah, okay. So would you do the family YouTube? Yeah, I probably would, and it depends if my wife wanted to get into it, a majority of the time. But if I'm done with football and I got a lot of time, I would probably do so. I already kind of do a little bit right now. I do a bunch of vlogs and stuff or like behind the scenes day and the life. Because I know a lot of people want to know what athletes really do outside of football. And I end up doing a lot of stuff going to a lot of events.

And sometimes I show that too. And, you know, so I just try to be as real and as authentic as possible because I know a lot of people view. athletes is pretty much like superheroes and that's not the reality for real and you know i tell people i'm just as normal as them a lot of people i can't believe you respond to me and stuff like that i'm like bro i'm a normal person just because my job is different don't make me no different from you a normal person but you get invited to do cool stuff now right like what was the nascar bit you just did uh the nascar thing that was down in texas that was a pretty cool event too we got a chance to go down and see like the crew pit and get to see directly how everything operate. It was nice.

I enjoyed that too. That was nice. What's going through your mind when you, this huge journey to get it, you made the NFL and you tear your ACL? Ah, man. It's a lot of perseverance. What was that play, like remind us what, how did that exactly happen? Thanksgiving Day versus the Giants. And it was a back show of the football. It was a back shoulder, Faye route against Darius Sladen on the right side of the field and he kind of like passed, he kind of like brushed me past a little bit and I just remember my knee giving out and that was it. You know, that's all the last thing I remember. You knew right away there's this is not normal or like this is way different?

Kind of. Yeah, I kind of, I kind of figured because I took my left, I took my left one in high school and it kind of felt the same. And I was like, man. you know, back to square one again. So, you know, I've been through a lot in my life, a lot of ups and downs, but I know how to get out of it every single time. So I never gave up.

I never quit. And, you know, I came back that last game versus the Giants again. I ended up playing pretty well. I had a couple tackles and stuff like that. You know, just grinding again through that whole offseason. And I'm here still, you know, they resigned me for another year. And really excited for these preseason games to show them, like, I still got it.

I'm still able to go out there. perform. Yeah, some people are like, ah, preseason, that doesn't matter. It matters. It matters every single year. You need the preseason. You want it. Yeah. Before we even started, we started like with your college career. So Mesquite? Yeah, I went to West Muskee High School. I was originally born and raised in Dallas. I probably didn't get to the Muskee area until about seventh grade.

So that's when my dad. They recruited you? No, no recruitment. So that's all we read. about in high school sports these days. My dad moved out there after he remarried, and we just kind of stayed in that area. It was a nice little area, and I went to school at McDonnell Middle School and then West Muskee High School.

And so I was there for about six years, I get the six years, seven to eight, and all the way through high school. So they're in the Muskee area for around six years, but it was absolutely worth it. I met a lot of great coaches, a lot of great family, friends and stuff like that, too. Do you just play defense? I play everything. That's what I figured. Yeah, but I got to, like, my junior year, my senior year was pretty much one position at that point.

And special teams, of course. But I remember playing. I only played corner surprisingly one year out of my whole high school career. It was my junior year. And then my senior year, I moved to safety. So when I got picked up to Michigan State, or are committed to Michigan State, they wanted me to play Corner.

Well, from what I remember, I feel like I've been out of the X's and O's learning game for a minute, but back then, a DB going to Michigan State was a big deal. Oh, definitely, because they had two first rounders, back-to-back, and then- No Fly Zone. Yeah, Jim Thorpe, he won a Jim Thorpe in Dorquessonar in 2014, or 2013, one of them years. And then they put out Trey that's next year.

It was crazy. And then so you go there, Antonio is like a Sabin type guy. I assume like a lot of press. I just want to know the two years that you've been here before Christian Parker got here, were you like fully entrenched in the playbook or were you more focused on special teams? Like how much of an adjustment is? Because from what I know, what you guys are doing now is very different than what you did at Michigan State.

Yeah. So it's all around. Still is focused on special teams and the defense. You know, my position first. but also special teams is how you really make the team truthfully and that's how I ended up really getting into the special team guys bones when he was here and staying underneath him and asking him questions and stuff like that and you know I ended up signing on the practice squad that first year in 2023 but you know I got a chance and opportunity to work under a lot of good guys

like Doran Blaine had a really good year that year and Trey also had a good year that year and 23 And so that defense was good. And, you know, Dan Quinn was here at the same time. And, you know, and then that next following year, oh, it started over again. I think this is my fourth D.C. in four years. So, you know, it's been a lot of different coaches, a lot of different techniques on stuff. So just figuring out everything. But I really like this Christian Parker defense.

I'm glad he's here. Glad he got him and where everybody's flying around and making plays and stuff too. When I say, like, I feel like I got off the bus X's and nose-wise when we said, started doing mixed coverages on the field and boundary side. So, like, reading who's going to be in four and who's going to be in two, like six and eight didn't exist back then. I feel like there's so much more going on on the back end now than there used to be. I mean, yeah, once you understand defenses, though, it kind of becomes a little easy.

Seems like a lot. Yeah, it's always a lot, but, you know, that's why we do it and, you know, the decisions that we had to make to play this game. feels like Christian Parker is like obviously got to be the youngest defensive coordinator you've had I believe so yeah yeah and I don't want to I guess I criticized everyone else in the media for asking those generic questions but it just feels we watch him his press conferences and whatnot and listen to him on interviews it feels like he's an inspiring guy and now you're going to say you know what actually he's not he's kind of boring no we're not we're not excited excited to have him. My third choice. Not saying that.

He is a great guy. He understands defense really well and everything. He's business. Yeah, all about business. And, you know, he's cool. If you ever get a chance to know him, his personality is really cool. A lot of great style. He rocks J's all the time.

So, you know, just getting to know him these last couple months has been great. All right. Well, what's your, how do people find you on the Graham and whatnot? I go by Josh Butler TV. on everything on all social media platform. Okay. You're the only Josh Butler TV out there. The only one, yep.

Okay. I got some fan pages, though. They make fan pages and stuff all the time, but, you know. That's awesome, man. Well, we wish you well with the Cowboys. Wish you well and that. And go follow Josh Butler and his dogs and his kid. And, yeah, hopefully big things for you this year, man.

Thank you all right. Good luck this weekend. All right. All right. There is, folks. Josh Butler. Yes, sir. You're listening to the day.

Some zone. Remember that, Jake? That was yesterday. Can we make it sound like it did before? We time-traveled it today. What do you mean? Your headphones don't sound right? What are you saying?

They sound different. That's the audio. Okay. It's a... Oh, that's my timer. I have my timer to go off so I can make sure I was back here. It's not evaluating the Cowboys. Boys are looking good.

Yeah, where do you see it really popping? Just the passion. You know what I know. noticed. What's that? The defense communicating. They all were saying stuff and then somebody would nod and then they would do it. It was amazing.

Even when they played the loud music, they could still communicate. I'm very interested in how we are, who's behind controlling this. So this is going to go for about 13 to 14 seconds. It's like just between plays or something. It's almost like an NBA game, but in the NBA, there's an obvious time. which it's in and out, and this is different. It's when they break the huddle. They crank the music,

so you have to communicate over music or use signs, what have you. Got it. Like you said yet, won't it be loud like that in Green Bay? Yeah. Got to get ready. And if they would ever make a playoff game,

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The new thing we're starting here on the Dumb Zone in year three, a plan. So the Cowboys are doing a walkthrough, and we think that this will probably be the only time where during our broadcast time, they break up practice. and so there could be at least a little bit of player availability. I always think of young Blake saying that word, availability.

Is it on call? And so when practice could break up during the news. Won't that ruin the continuity of our show? But when that breaks up, we're just going to, we're going to head out there. We're going to just go see what we can see, see and be seen. And if it's totally terrible, we'll cut it out of the audio program, right? Yeah. We don't run from our mistakes.

I do. Yeah, well. Trying to make a promo or something? I'll take it out. Yeah. Anyway, so that might interrupt the news, but here's the open for the news. You don't plug and plug it back in. Me?

Yeah. Is it just too low? It's just real scratchy. Is that how we fix things? You can blow on it. Better? Yeah. It does.

Hey. Unplugged it and plugged it in. Blow on it and put it back in there. So the top story that we were tracking in the Los Angeles news last night, they had a, what? We need to tell them about how they do their weather. Oh, bro. It's Michael Bay. You know, Jerry Bruckheimer, dude.

What do you mean? Well, first of all, they've, it is what you think it is. it's stacked market by attractiveness and you're in Los Angeles and it's the nightly news so the men look very regal and newsish or super

attractive and the women are all they look like actresses or supermodels and then from there the whole you see maybe a little bit of graphic and what do you like immersion graphics where you can interact with them at home this is the whole screen

so she's walking on like a globe and the globe is spinning as she walks over to South America, and there's clouds here. It's cinematic. Yeah. At home, the green screens behind them, there it's on the ground. So she's walking, like, through California, pointing down, like, look you here. This is where the rain's coming through, and it's...

It's special. It's insane. That's great. Yeah. It's just the graphic packages are fantastic. So that's one of the good parts of living in Los Angeles, but many such bad parts, like, you're in the middle of a lot of, lot of industry and a lot of warehouses.

And I don't think people think about that when they think about Los Angeles, but in the Boyle Heights neighborhood out here, they had a story last night where they were covering a town hall meeting. There was a fire in this foodstuffs warehouse six weeks ago. So just a food warehouse caught on fire six weeks ago. Hey, Rowdy. What's up, bud? and they haven't cleared out the burnt-up food. So the fire eventually burnt off, burned off,

and now it's overrun with rodents, and it smells, and this thing is giant. And so in the same way that we might live near like farmland at home, and you're like, that's kind of weird, there are just huge warehouses in Los Angeles, and, yeah, there was a huge fire, which also happens out here a lot. Burned for eight days.

And now it just smells. Like miles and miles and miles. You guys want to have Rowdy on? He's approaching the table right now. I don't think Rowdy talks. Oh, he doesn't talk. Is that the one that parked at the strip club? We don't talk about that at Camp Lake.

Why? Because we want to come back to camp next year. Jerry said, now Rowdy? I know. We talk about that. When we go back to Dallas? Got any questions for Dak about his family? If he came over here, why not?

Why are you guys afraid of? You're afraid of Rowdy? Are you serious? The next story on the news that night. You can't talk. Was just a brazen catalytic converter spree of a thief, like, of robberies of people in Los Angeles. Well, that happened like five or ten years ago in Texas. That was a big deal, right?

Yeah. It feels like it fell off. It did. Is it still going on? This one was, it's dudes in ski masks, broad day, and they have a rifle, like full rifle just pointed up at these apartments. It feels like you're in Grand Theft Auto every night on the news here. It's not, they're fighting over a book and a library.

Why wouldn't you say heat? Yeah. You just didn't want to raise it to that level? Uh, no, we got something deeper going on. What? What do you mean? Well, I think, so my. training camp book is heat two it was gifted to us by a listener during a sit-in and i thought

how l a i'll read heat two while in in california and now like jake is so afraid of me like taking over the yuka app or south park or rap music now he senses that i'm going to take over heat and he's mad at me about it he's very territorial he is anyone who knows ice cream like i one in the ass, he's like, Pff. Moved on. You thought, are you the real thing?

You have grip. That's three months ago, me. So any leftover Hillary bars you see, those are theirs because they bought a bunch of them. None of that's off me. That's a Hillary bar now, okay?

There's no way you scan the Yassau bar. I know it's good. It's better. Oh, it's good. It's not bad. Some of the ice creams are actually that you might as well be eating Bluebell. Yes.

Which in general, ice cream, not bad. compared to your... It's actually going back the other way where they want to use real milk fat. Yeah. Rather than... A lot of things are going the other way, yeah. This is a...

Get that fluoride out of my water. This is a story that I've seen a bunch of people... I bet you WFA did a poll or something like that. I don't know if Fox 4 goes to that level. But DFW Airport is installing, quote, Islamic foot wash stations inside bathrooms. Well, I'm sure that's not going to cause any alarm. It's caused enough to where there's a news story about it.

But, yeah, if they put in one, there's going to be 8 million news stories about it. It's privately funded. It's like a low-level basin. He's already exists several places across the U.S. I was thinking it was weird the other day going to the bathroom in. DFW because the last couple airports I'd been in were in Portland and Seattle. And it's night and day. The Portland and Seattle bathrooms are fluid.

What do you mean? There are, I don't, there were no men's and women at all. I don't think so. And it's just, it's obvious, you know, it's state to state. It's a big country. Was it great? Because you could be like, hey, little girl. Gross. Isn't that what happens?

No, I think... That's what I thought happens. I think... Maybe this is just the capitalist in me, but I think the market ultimately would sort out all problems because what I found is that I didn't want to fart. Yeah, you're a gentleman. Because I knew that there were...

Women in there. Yeah. But yeah, just like with bathrooms, these exist elsewhere. These foot wash stations. I feel like there's a good chance I see Dan using these one day. Just like, hey, why not take advantage of this? I don't really know the custom. I'm not really sure.

But if I want to be clean and this is an idea, they're adding a clean thing. Yeah. Why? So it's only if I believe in whatever? Buddha? Yeah. I should be able to do it too.

Why can't I have a little piece of bread and someone? Is that, uh... Wait. Have you ever done that? Oh my God! Could you hear it on the mic? Yeah, that was bad. You could hear it on the mic?

I could hear it over my headphones. Don't say wait. If you want to just do a thing. But then he spread his legs out and looked down at it. I knew I was sitting on a plastic chair. Yeah, so he had to power it through the chair. It's Friday. It's Friday.

thought you wanted to do Friday show. A senior at Lake Travis ISD passed away after a medical emergency at football practice this week. I don't like to hear that. So like 70 years old, 80? What kind of a senior? He was a senior in high school, Dan. Oh, no. I thought he would have graduated before he got that old.

This one? What happened? I mean, they say it's heat-related. He's a big boy. I thought we had the wet bulb. I will. Is that Wire Will? Nope.

It's my friend Will McLeigh. Wire Will McLeay? He has no idea who you are, does he? Every time I see him. I talk with him. I talk with him a lot. On the plane? He may not remember me, but I always try to say something to him.

He's the brains behind this whole thing. And you're just going with Will. All right. T.C.'s walking real fast. That means we better move. That's his first name. The Dumb Zone News. Well, like.

We'll see. The Dumb Zone News. We may have to come back. I know we're going to have to come back. No, I mean, to the news. That was a good news. I'll let you get started walking there and then I'll. All right, yeah.

Can you hear me? Yeah. I know you can hear me. I'm saying through here. Oh, okay. Let's go out to the field. Family day or something? All right, I'm going to, you want to mute this plate?

As the cowboys are breaking up practice. You, yours? Yeah. We are walking through one of the giant tents that blocks our view from the field. But I believe. It does say emergency. Okay. Yeah, when has that ever stopped you before?

Thank you, sir. Kiss, ass. We are making our way down to the field now. T.C. has indicated things are breaking up. The players do not seem to be indicating that they are breaking up. Do you think T.C. jumped the gun here? Are we good? I think the gun has at least been approached.

and probably leaptover, yeah. Now that thing, our interview E from yesterday was wearing, these guys are wearing something that looks to be a sports bra, but it is not, right? What is that? Catapult tracker. That's tracking all of your movements, biometrics, load management. So is that basically a flock camera on your body?

Yeah, it is. but, you know, it allows you to see things like top speed, you know, and the little X's and O's dots that you see on the... Walk this way. Let's saunter to the autograph area. Yeah, let's do it. Now the catapult is, that's... It's everywhere now.

It's just the scales. Talk to some fans. That is Christie Scales. Isn't that weird? She's always on a sideline. Hello, Christy Scales. They never let me. leave that's why not allowed to leave so you're training to be on the sideline and here she is a

training camp standing on the sideline got to get ready for tomorrow in seattle brad sham is just sitting up in the booth oh yeah and babe yeah yeah exactly right so what do you take it from today in terms of being ready for the i think the boys look great what do you think oh i think they look great yeah yeah what are your concerns dude uh you know defense just kind of everything jelling in time That's all. You weren't completely impressed with what they did in the joint practice Tuesday. Oh, man, I really did. Yeah.

Yeah, I know that you were intent on all that. Yeah, yeah. Where's your notes? Why don't you stop yelling at me, Christy? Christy scales. Hey, I have a question for you. Do you guys watch righteous gemstones? Yes.

So last night, I got to meet board names Edie Patterson. But, oh, my God. Texas State and Texas. And she's from Texas City. I'm from Galveston. So after the show, are you familiar with the groundlings in Pallet? Are you going? Well, Thursday night is alumni night.

So they have people that come out. And so she's a former ground member, you know, like Melissa McCarthy, Will Ferrell. Yes. Well, I went for the second time last night. So Brad and I went. And so anyway, yeah, you might want to get the players instead of me telling the Jimstone story. All right, you're going to tell us in a couple days. Yeah.

All right. All right. All right. That's great. I love hearing that. Thank you. I love Edie. Married to BJ?

Yeah. It's a dirty lib. I remember seeing what we're doing some. Oh, there's Dominic Robinson. Oh, says Robinson. Let's see. You want to try? Like this?

There's Geron Glend. We're walking here among the cowboys. There's Dach Prescott, folks. You can see Dack Prescott walking off the field. We're We're, uh, we're taking selfies with Deck Prescott out here. So yeah, we're just walking near the autograph line and you'll see, I guess. I don't know if, I don't know what the rules are here.

You'll see and hear people, uh, yelling for autographs. And there's a man you might know as Quentin Williams. Actually, there's no tea. Yeah. And he's signing for a fan. Great good there. Sure. The fan walked up and said,

million dollar man, which is not at all a weird thing to say to a pro athlete. Yeah. Normal thing to say. There's so many tylers. Would you like to, should we talk to George Pickens and C.D. Lamb are walking off the field. I'm just asking us.

Hey, guys. How do the Cowboys looking this year? No? denied there goes George Pickens clearly intense and motivated for the season didn't have time to talk to the media no they both stopped Serpin Pickens both stop

that's cool they'll stop for yeah some fans this does not seem to be a big place for the media to get a lot but it isn't yeah we are the only ones out here not anymore a hero emerges

is John Machota of the athletic. We'll see if he posts up anywhere. I think this is like set up to be failed. We're to stay out of the middle. What world would you say where we were just standing would be the middle of us? There's about 700 square yards out here and nowhere where we were.

No, this doesn't seem to be the middle of anything. No. It's not. But do you think that's really Tony Dorset? I don't. Take a look. I think that's really kiddie gluck over there. You probably don't want to be bothered. Oh, I don't look to you.

Big things for him to show. This is a. Yeah. This is not proving very fruitful, but we're, uh, so the Cowboys practice is breaking up, but there are certain little pockets of players that are still out there doing, doing little work. Work slash autographs, but I don't know that you want to approach mid autographs. Is this a Rocco? We're in six.

Let's just go to the autograph line and see what's up. Stay out of the middle. So we'll walk over to where all the fans are in the VIP fan area, getting autographs. Then there's a mean coach yelling that we have a flight and we got to run. And so, and so. The fans are left wanting a little bit, I guess. Who did you guys get today? Tyler Berker.

Who are we get? We got the whole line. Ryan Fourne. We got way too many people. I can't count. Whole line. What's the best autograph you got on that helmet? Holly Javante.

Javante. Javante. Javante. Rishon. What's your goal? Man, Javante is my goal. I missed it last year, so I'm glad. gone this year oh you already got dack and everything oh no you missed him missed you just assume you'll

never get deck can he do bird calls a couple years ago but i just never got javante a couple years ago so you come out here every year every year what's your what's your deal like are you from dallas you from here? What? I was from Sack. Just try to get where I can get and then just collect it. Oh, okay. And do you pay extra to get back here?

This is the VIP area or no? Yeah, I pay extra to get back. Oh, he pays it, but. Okay. I'll pay anything. Okay. And did he teach you to be a cowboy fan like this? Oh, man.

He's telling me everything. He's crazy. He's got everything. Is your dad? Yeah, he's my dad. Okay. What's your, you got a cowboy tattoo? How long you had that guy?

Had that a while. I finally got one, so it's time to get a tattoo after all those years. But we go back long ways, but I have the Tony Derset days and Drew Pearson, Tony Hill, Randy White.

So you got to bring it up the right way, right? You from Dallas? No, no. Northern California, Sacramento area, Roseville. So you've never been to Dallas or anything? In Dallas plenty of games, so we go to Dallas. Why are you a cowboy fan?

Yeah, born in the 70s, so it was about the Americas team, right? Okay. So just grew up and turn it on, and that was it, right? Danny White. rest was history so we've been a Cowboys fan my whole life and you come out here every year it's second time this year we came last week and we're back this week driving down so

okay good times love good cowboys good times indeed Super Bowl all right where there's an exclusive interview with a fan and then we'll the rest of the what story christie's story oh she wanted to tease that for next week and now we slowly walk off the field. Miss Shoemaker, he was out here the whole time. Yeah. We slowly make our way off

the Cowboys practice field where they are hopping on a flight and they will head to Seattle. Seattle, Blake. Seattle. Blake's going to Seattle, too. Yep. Kind of a sparse crowd today

for the walkthrough, but I guess that's the way it is. The Marvion overshone. Let's just see. Talk to him for just a moment. So just kind of get some, you know, I just tell them to go out there and play freely. You know, you're ripping the star on Saturday,

but at the end of the day, you know, you're interviewing for a bunch of dollars. We already know it's only a couple of spots on this team that can actually make the roster. So, you know, when you go out here, make sure you just play your best ball, don't over, thank you. This is the guy that runs after practice. There he is just walking, though.

God, I love him. Today, just walking after practice. Hello, officer. Yeah, that was cool. That's Jake's favorite officer. Did not exactly. Back behind me. Oh, was it?

You can see that? He can't hear you. Okay, yeah, good. We got a good look there. All right. Can he hear you? All right, well, I can't hear Blake. I don't know if Jake is back there, but I'm reporting live on the Cowboys practice field.

and we will work our way up here. Okay. You guys out on the field getting autographs? Yeah. How'd you get out there, man? Just very lucky, very lucky. Okay. Yeah, what about you guys?

Who'd you get? I got C.D. Lambs, and then he got Dak. And you got Dak. All right. Where are you guys from? We're from Dallas. Oh, wow. We're from here out here.

How come I can't meet anybody from Dallas? Everybody's just from out here. You ever been to Dallas? I love Dallas. We try to go Thanksgiving Day. Okay. Try to see wherever the Cowboys are playing. Are you like a collector or something?

No, no, no, no. Just a blanket and... Just the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to hang it up in my office. Okay, nice. Thank you guys. Good times, man.

See you. Well, now Dan and T.C. are back. For a day that we didn't even know they'd be here, that was interesting. It was cool for the fans. I guess. There's a lot of people who, like, I know this sounds weird to us, but as those guys are walking off, they're like literally going, oh, finally.

They're like hugging each other because they got an autograph. I'm making somebody's day by being here. Anyways, now I'm going to play you a quick bit of audio from a... Are we back in the news? Let's just move on, but I got something else for you real quick. Oh. CD has his own YouTube channel. Here's Jane.

And it's not like Trayvon Diggs's YouTube channel where a video would come out at camp and it was like a direct shot at the team. It's really more, CD really likes to do cool stuff in the offseason and he really likes people to know about it. Like he's single athlete who's traveling a lot. And so he's all over the world in all the coolest places. And he's got a camera guy with him. And then he's sitting out back at his mansion kind of narrating the summer. summer. A lot of it's him and the boys. Dack, Pickens, somewhere out on some vacation or retreat, playing football barefoot. It's kind of cool to see. They're like in the mountains. But I wanted to

play you this part from his meeting with Nike. And you guys can tell me whether or not this is athlete over laughter. He makes a very light, I would say Michael Scott level innuendo here. And listen to how they react. We'll see if this play. Yeah, that's why I love them cleats in the Christmas, bro. I was so happy. So he's talking just his design there. He really likes to stand out. He likes the design on the cleats to stand out.

That's why he loves the Christmas one. Been cleat in the hell of Christmas, bro. I was so happy. All you are you saying, help me help them. Find you. Yeah, sure. He's got a chain hanging. Yeah, he has something hanging.

What a walk, boy. I don't say nothing to follow that, bro. I want to say nothing. Hey, bro, I was going to let you cook up. That was wild. I was wild. Dude, like the whole room loses it. He's, he's, he was alluding to his possible alluding to his penis.

Like he's having to hold off double over laughter. And there's a room full of, you know, Nike executives and account executives. whatever. It's just, Jesus, dude. But this is what you do now. The most laughter you're going to get is at Nike. Right? Or an agency that's pitching you.

Right? I would just think somebody who's got some skins in the wall would be honest with you. Yeah, this is what you do now. You get a video look. Just your summer. Your summer travels.

You just make a video. That's the currency, man. Even Machota's into it. He wants his TikTok. to take off. Pretty soon I'm going to be just TikTok guy. Yeah? That's all I'm going to be doing.

Talking about it every day. Bathroom ratings. I can't wait. Parking. Then my life will really take off. I can play you. Now I want to play you a little bit more from Shottie and Kay Adams. If you would review canned fish on TikTok, you might do well.

Yeah, I think there's almost no doubt. Can I do it under our account or do I have to make can fish? No, do it under our account? Dan.com or whatever. Can Dan. It's really good. It is, man. Yeah.

Dan in a can. Okay, like we said, yesterday, in addition to Dustin Hoffman, the other celebrity we saw was K. Adams. Up in Adams. Which is weird to me because there are, like, plenty of reporters here. Some of them even, of, like, you know, they're kind of famous. Is that another one? What? If you lift your ass cheek up off.

I didn't do any. Off off the seat and you hold your hand up and start shaking. It's not on me just because they can't hear it. It's an audio product. But Kay Adams, who's like used to be on the NFL network. Now she's on something else. She was walking around like Dustin Hoffman. Like she had a handler.

Oh, my God. There was more. You would have thought she was like a four-time Oscar winner. I couldn't. It's Kay Adams. Yeah, she's wearing some nondescript, just football shirt. It has like an 88 on it. Somebody pointed out was probably like $1,000,

but I don't really know what she does. Uh-uh. Yeah, you want to watch your mouth, I think. I know, I was just trying. I was only going for humor there. I'm sorry, Kay, if you hear this. So these guys are defending your honor, though. To the death.

So this is her talking to Shottie, and Shottie's got, like, his legs kind of tilted towards her, like relaxed back. Visor on. Kimmel Sabby style. I'm close to buying into Shadi, and I'm going to want you to stop your rip-in-chatty. A lot of those guys are on your leadership council, which I just heard about. We're talking about...

You back out. Knowing how excited he is. Not going to be on your leadership council, which I just heard about. How many people do you think are on the leadership council? I'm pretty aware there's like over a dozen or at least it. That's way too many. I do think so, too. Do you think Schottie's a guy who would have too many groomsmen?

Yeah. Like, make a cut. We're talking about balance and you wanting to focus on being a head coach. I guess I'll start with this. And there are some new names on there. Gary's on there. Clark is on there. Why have a leadership council?

How did that incept? I think it's part of the evolution. I think you can do that, but I didn't know you could do that. What? How did that incept? Yeah, it's not bad. That's a good move. Yeah.

A lot of those guys are on your leader. leadership council, which I just... Hey, it was my voice being heard and it doesn't change the fact that I've always felt like the best teams are led by the locker room. And so the more I was around some of these new faces and new guys and looking at our locker room going into year two, it became very evident to me that we had the right guys in place that could help us make decisions, drive the standard, and point things out when they're right and when they're not right.

And that helps. Why those guys? Can I pause something? Yes. This isn't to make fun of shy. But it's, I've been around teams. You know, I've come to believe the best teams are those that led by the players, right? Doesn't that, does assigning it and calling it a leadership council and you've been anointed leader by your daddies?

Doesn't that take away what you just said? Like, isn't that more of an organic? The best teams, the players have just, like the true leaders just emerged and policed the locker room without being, wearing a hall monitor sash. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it still can work, probably. I don't know. But I think that's when you're forcing it in. It's like forced, well, I suppose he's doing it in a sense with having them all go to dinner with people.

they don't usually hang around with on the team. It's his bit for sure. The best players, you might say, boy, they all just kind of get along and they just hang out and stuff. But we're making them hang out ahead of time to reverse engineer that. Like, I want to do the things the best teams do. Maybe, and I don't know, because I don't know what it's like to be an NFL player. Or my vision of what the best teams do, because maybe that's not true at all, actually.

Yeah, and maybe what the best teams do changes over time because being a person changes. So, like, you know, they probably don't hang out together as much as they did in the 80s and 90s, period, just because people don't. So if there's maybe some, if they have to, like, institute, you know, actual mechanisms to force things that used to happen naturally, you'd rather it be natural, for sure. But I mean, corporation, right? You do bonding weekends or you do a... Dude, they got, like, personality coaches. Yeah. They come in and tell you how to talk to each other while you're in the room.

They have, like, work therapists. So if you have a billion to spend, you're just like, what can I spend on to make it a tiny bit better? Most of the stuff I'm playing for you here, it's just because of her. It's not because she's bad, and it's not, I'm not ogling her. I just, I'm fascinated by just how, listen to this. So we came back the very next, the first training camp practice. Talk to Caleb Downs. Very similar route, and Caleb gloved it.

I mean, really, you played it perfectly. And so what you love about that is. What? Love to hear it This is the sound of you talking to a lady at 1.30 at the morning. Well, it's pretty small. I didn't even mark it, but I know she was talking to. They love to talk about playing putt putt against Shadi.

Yeah, I got it, but I'm not going to play it. I have worse than that. But yeah, listen to this. So we came back the very next, the first training camp practice, very similar route and Caleb gloved it. I mean, really, he played it perfectly. And so what you love about that is, you know, when you get a young player...

All right, now, towards the end, if there's anything she loves more than putt-putt, it's his tattoos. Cool, back and forth, and there was a lot of trash talk. There were balls being punted into the stands. Matter of fact, Dak went over and not so nice. He said, stop punting my damn throwing balls into... Jesus!

Yeah, yeah. What happened? I can't talk to that. What happened to Dak? But it was great. She's like, girl, he is wile. Like, listen to how reality show. Not so nice. He said, stop punning my damn throwing balls.

Jesus. Yeah, yeah. What's happening? I can't talk to that. What happened to that? But it was great. And it was, the trash talk is good. And iron sharpens iron.

That's great. You are my coach with tattoos. You know that I love that. If you were to put a tattoo on. What did she just say? You are my. coach with tattoos. And you know I love it.

He's, okay, he's certainly not the only coach with a tattoo. No, but he's got to be the only one with a visible. I mean, you've got plenty of guys who got a little something, but hand is a choice, and it's a big one. So I got to give him credit there. I've wanted one for a long time and haven't done it. That is. That is.

Kyle Shanahan has a tattoo. Who? But like you're saying, when you make it so prevalent, it's, if you, it's wearing a logoed shirt. Yes. All the time, you know, the same shirt. Yes. It's going to require a question.

Someone will comment on it. He loves it. Or you'll become Kay Adams' tattooed coach. Oh, me? The trash talk is good. This is old thing. Iron sharpens iron. You are my coach with tattoos. You know that I love that. If you were

to put a tattoo on with one word, last question. Pause it. Was she getting the rap? up. No, he's so excited. She's not getting a wrap-up, dude. Do you think Bronz is standing next to her? Ha! Dad might?

No, no, no, no, no, no. They're letting the NFL network or whatever they want to do. Yeah, we've seen. He can. Dad can dismiss certain people. There are two worlds. Very sad. Hers and ours.

But I'm just saying he, although they may have prepped him with the question. Dude, he's that hitter from a rookie of the year, just waiting on that underhanded pitch licking his lips. Like, are you kidding me? The second she said tattoo. I'd rather do this than call a play. Right. Give me one word.

Hold on, let me clean up. This is all, yeah. Tews, you know that I love that. If you were to put a tattoo on with one word, last question, that sort of describes this team this season, what would it be? Brotherhood. She couldn't get the breath? Out of her mouth before he answered that question.

It's because he's already thought through all. I mean, this is what he does, man. And it's very possible their producer kind of told him ahead of time this is going to be their last question. Brotherhood. Possibly, yeah. He's a throw pillow. But he's about to be a Super Bowl winning throw pillow.

Look, man, he's making the right hires. Yeah. And he seems to be kind of stepping out of the way. That's what I mean. Like, he does feel like. and not only that. I think it's more than Garrett ever was. I think you have.

I don't think Garrett ever earned the right to do it, and I think it simply took. No, you guys are fine. You're fine. You're fine. Whistfer! Thank you, though. No.

I think also... I think he earned the right simply by... It was timing, and it was by Clayton Adams, really worked out. Yeah. And that was the one hire they let him make. Dude, but I know I've said this before. They didn't let him make a lot of hires.

But it's like. when Brandon talks about why do they let you kick 65-yard field goals. He's like, because I made the first one. Yeah. They were like, all right. And so. And so it's next, you know what? And Iber Fluse turned out so poorly.

Yeah. And it was kind of a, this is the way we've been doing it. And you know what? If I, Jerry has realized, I mean, it was the reason he kept Jason Garrett around here so long. It's hard to find. If I win with this guy that no one else in the NFL won. wanted, this will be Jerry's Super Bowl. It's a very thin pool.

It would never, if you went and signed Jim Harbaal or John Harbaugh, you would not have, yeah, Tomlin, that would never be your Super Bowl. Sure, you would have to say I'm the owner that went and hired him, but if you hire a guy, though, that nobody else wants to hire, that's, this is Jerry's guy. It's wildcatting. That's why I would have him on. I just want to talk to them about public ownership of natural resources. So, Dan, are you tilting towards Shottie?

Think about it. As a guy who's, like, all about grit, whatever, it doesn't make sense to be like luck should play this big of a factor in this. I'm tilting towards Shottie, but I'm out here. I'm realizing I'm swimming in the cowboy. You know that? What was the Kaepernick will put the headphones on? You could do everybody. That's what I'm doing right now.

I don't hear anything y'all are saying. I don't care. They give you cowboys glasses when you walk in. Whatever. I'm mad. I'm disappointed in you. We stay eyes on the shoulder blades of the man in front of us. I'm not wave because you know what will happen.

This guy. Who, me? He blows around like one of those things at a car dealership. Me? Well, I keep waving inflatable tube, man. No way. I get an opinion. I stick with it.

Yeah, well, stay away from commenting on the WMBA then. I'll tell you what. Take yourself a hole. I'll tell you what. We're getting lots of Ennis Cantner. Enough to where you're going to have to start saying Cantor. Canter? Canter? Sorry, can'tner.

Cantor. Quentin. Like you said, he's a spare that nobody even knows. But I thought I saw a picture of those guys like wearing a wig. Have you seen that? Royce did. Yeah. That they're on TV, maybe.

Don't you think this? Here's my thought about that. for real. No jokes. I just don't know that there's ever a world where I'm putting a wig on and feeling good about it. Like just no. No chance. Like, because I'll hear some people, and like even Ethan, he loves this kind of stuff, right?

But it's like, oh, they're going to force the NBA, WMBA, into addressing this issue that they don't. You know, they're going to force them to address this issue now because these guys will join the draft. they're going to say they want to be drafted, and the WNBA doesn't have a rule about this. They're forcing them to address the, can I do it? Isn't the point? Like, aren't you ruining your own point when you say, hey, they haven't addressed this important issue?

They don't even have a rule about, why don't they have a rule about this? The answer is this doesn't, it's not an issue. It doesn't happen. It's not close to happening. It's not light years away from happening. So that's why there's no rule. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You're giving speeches saying, men could just decide to be a woman and then play in the WMBA and Dom. Well, I guess, but no one ever has and no one really wants to. That's not a thing. Unless you're going to do it to stir this up and for other reasons, now it's become a thing because of that. but aren't you, you're almost, like, it seems to me to be an easy retort to the people who are trying to stir it up to say, that's why there's no rules on the books because this, no one's wanting to do this.

If your whole deal was built on their shark attacks in this bay and nobody was getting attacked by sharks and you had to dump a bunch of sharks in there to get people attacked, and you'd be like, all right, it looks like people are getting attacked. Then I think at some point, people would see it. Isn't this an easy retort of, like, how can we not really even worse? away. We will. Also, he just won't get drafted. Like, nobody's going to, it just will take care of itself. That's why stuff like this, I wish you could just keep it moving. I think it's interesting to talk about him having to

defend the full floor. Dude, Travis is so, I was looking up like what percentage of. Is Travis texting you? Because he's texting me every day. Oh, listen. I thought he was just laying off you. He didn't want to say it to your face. No. But I don't, as far as like the political or social implications of it. I just, I don't, I'll have a lot on it. Deal with it as it comes, I guess. I think it'd be great. The truth is, is that the Olympics has had ways to handle this for a long time, right?

At a higher scale it up and they have, like, they have testosterone tests and things like that. Yeah, well, people care about the Olympics. I don't. Who's the, who am I thinking of? Probably K. Adams. Yeah, it's probably K. Adams. No, I want to help you. Let's work together.

No, no, no. It had to do with this, but we'll move on. Want to move on to viewer mail birthdays? Sure. That time? Oh, it's way past time, isn't it? Well, I don't know what the clock. Thank you.

I think we're pretty. Content over clock is what we're saying. But we forgot the L. I should reset more. I hate Blake in our ear. Producer in our ear, just telling us stuff. Got to go. Oh, my God.

I'm going to break out in hives. Traumatic. Viewer male birthdays is what my attempt is to do here. If it loads, like the word load. I tried to print for you. Blake was up late printing, trying to get it right. Can't just plug into a printer anymore. You cried for this technology, and now you cry about the technology.

You have to sign up for Ink Plus. Dude. Refill tear. Hello Captain Clam Slam. Today is my Brian Westbrook birthday. Nice, good pull. Excellent. I'd also like to thank you all for raising awareness for CP.

Big ear. As someone born at 24 weeks with cerebral palsy, it just means a lot. Anyway, more Alexa, more foodie CK, stand-up comedy, and shout out to the chat. Go Birds, Dickhead, from Tommy G. You know Tommy G? Oh, my gosh. Quite well. You may know him from the Philip Kingston remote.

Oh, there's a handful of individuals who have been with T.C. and I for 12, 13 years now. Many cigarettes smoked, Dan. Are you Tommy G. Mogging me? Like, you would not believe. You're the Tommy G guy, not me. Don't try and take Tommy G. It's a prize commodity. It's like South Park and Blake.

Yep. And heat. Look, dude, I know Tommy G. Yeah, I'll fight over this. I've been a Carolina high-mass fan for a very long time, Dan. I knew some of the words that you said there. That's where Tom works. Dear Dan, Dan, the pussy direct man.

No. Just a little bit, but they're bringing it to you. Yeah, samples. Can I get a different sample? What's the one zigzaggy one called? Herringbone. I write to you on this day of my 49 trip around the sun. No one else in my circle knows of the dumb zone except the woman who lives in my house.

I'm going to make her join me for a sit-in next year on my 50th. Nice. Anyways, I was not woken up in that special way because. Oh, wait a second here. Do I have it? He says, I was married for 26 years. 26 years. He says, was, though.

No, I have been married. Sorry. I was going to say, a lot of opportunities out there. Let's see. What if they divorced, but she did come to the sit-in, just like as a final. That'd be great. We've been this far. What if they had such a contentious divorce that she got the annual membership when they split things up?

Like she didn't even want it, you know? Yeah. Have to sit in. Like your website. Wait, what don't I? What's the website? Criticism? We don't have hang zone.com or we,

I don't really give you guys. I'm sorry. Yeah. Dan's calling. Hey, I'm here with website. How do I send it to you? My leaders are. My leaders are personally witnessing, oh no.

He says personally witnessing the awkward confusion and other emotions wash over Dan as he was maugged off the lap pole machine at the gym by the kid who's a known equipment hog. Oh, damn, bro. Busted your ass. What happened? Don't you remember? I told the story. I was using a machine and some kid comes over.

He just wanted to work in. And then he tripled. the weight. Yeah, and then he's smaller me. Oh, man. He just grabbed a couple of 45s and threw it out. Like, I was lifting 20s or a day, you know? Damn.

You weigh your turn, dude. And that kid's got a reputation around the gym, it sounds like. And then, yeah, then me and we had to take off the 45 so I can go back to my little seat high, pull down towards your hips. See, and that's, this is the problem. This is why Shottie has to do a leadership council. Because in the real, like, somebody should police. this.

Two guys are sending emails about it. That's two, that's one more than the guy. You should go up to him together and be like, cut this shit out. Yeah, Jimmy needs to police that locker room. Somebody should. I would like to name Jimmy one of our leaders in the 24-hour fitness. Your suggestion comes with a serious consideration. And like if Jimmy sees the guy with the music pill.

Yeah. Playing that loudly in the sauna. Let's just go up to him and go, hey, man. What if we didn't do that? Man, I had a train ride recently, like a dart light rail where the guy next to me was playing really loud rap music on his phone for a while. Then he got off, so I'm like, oh, this is great.

Finally relief. The guy that got on at the same stop then just performed his own rap music loudly for the rest of the trip. He sensed a void. He was like, I'll fill in here. I had about 10 seconds of that ride that was pleasant. You ever see Dan on TikTok, and I don't know how real this is. It's been a year or so now, maybe two.

But there were these guys that their bit was they were a fake, like, workplace hotline you could call. And so they would show up at a company. It'd be like a window washing company, and they're like, hey, they have a clipboard, they got hats, or we need to speak to whoever. And the people are like, I don't know. No, they're like, hey, we've got complaints, and they just run the whole play. And it's great. And I feel like if I won the lottery, I would take all the game day I needed,

and I would just go around to gyms finding people like that with friends. I'd find sauna guy, and you just figure it out. Hand him a ticket? Hey, hey, hey, hey. We're here from the gym behavior violation organization. You got a little visor on in the sauna. You're rolling on it. Flash a badge?

Yeah. And you're like, there's two just jack dudes. You're like, no, this doesn't fly here. I think it would... That's a good traction. Because nobody does it. There's a bunch of people at Jim who could kick everyone's ass,

but yet nobody ever does anything. It's like the place where nuisance runs the wildest. If you're in a fucking library, people will be like, stop doing that. But if you're at the gym, you can play unedited rap music in a four-by-eight room with one other guy sitting there.

Sir, I'm going to let you off of the warning. This time, Anyway, leaders watching me get mugged. Jake's courage in his quest become America's next top comic, the likes of which we haven't seen since Sinbad. And Dan's unwavering commitment to remind the world that if you're named Ethan Couch, you can kill four people and injure nine others, completely paralyzing one while driving drunk at the age of 16,

yet walk free among us today on the grounds of being a rich, spoiled, rotten little piece of shit. Yeah. More of my RBF brother Blake. He said that is resting bitch face. Yep. More soroy, more dingo, and then much less Henry. God, there's not much now, so that's...

Like never again, unless every on-air word he mutters can only be met with a response from Clayton. I have gotten at least two unsolicited. compliments on our Instagram presence. I'd like to add a third. I'm going to say Henry is at least providing some value. Yeah.

That's not a commentary on his on-air presence. It's merely a balanced sheet situation. Yeah. Keep cranking hog, twist the wrists for spicy change. Oh, don't tell us that, Jimmy. That's from Jimmy.

For a what? Spicy change. Spicy. And then I got a couple more that just rolled in. Sunday, August 16th, it is good D.F. Patrick Payne. This is Ron Washington on the Rangers' birthday. Let's see. Dumb zone leaders are Travis Gafford for getting him his own piss jug,

autographed by Jake. Blake being the only male who could pitch a ball for his nephew's little league team. And Jake having the courage to double-down. on his take about old men competing in the WNBA. More Ted Emrick from Chris Allshaus. Why we call Chris Kamen? Dude, I just keep getting, I got a couple emails today. This one says Jake needs rehab again, and it's all about the WNBA.

That's why it's the best league out there. He's saying, and I think... They say it's a talking sport. Today is Magic Johnson's 67th birthday, getting ahead of myself. He says current day Magic Johnson would be a top five player in the league, and he's got AIDS. I mean, he can barely, yeah, he can barely walk. I really wish we could see all this. Because Jake's arguments are persuasive to me.

Although if he joined that league, the rest of the league would barely be able to walk. That's true. They would automatically be less than immune. Oh, we have ham here. I am a man who will eat my own world, pay my money. debts, whatever, I would pay as much as you guys to see five, 40, 34 to 40-year-old NBA scrubs, bigs. But really, what I'm saying is that I think one of them would not do it.

If you had five, obviously that would be a real problem. How many points per game is Brian Cardinal averaging? Man, I just, I don't think guys like that are moving real well, so I don't know. I don't think it's a lot. Every year, maybe like a Memorial Day or something, we should have one big man versus women challenge. I agree. Just different sports, just find out. You know what Dirk doesn't move well?

How well would Dirk play in this league? Dude, he would stand zero chance. Zero chance. I'm telling you guys, you need to see Dirk move. He can't walk well. We ruined Dirk. Don't use Dirk. That's a sad story.

Dirk can't like run. I'm looking at the, uh, NBA All-Stars from 40 years ago, since you mentioned Magic Johnson. I think the reserves could put a team together to dominate the WNBA from 40 years ago. Kevin Willis. You do have Magic Johnson. You have James Worthy? I want to be clear about something.

You give him a team. Changes the range. I'm talking Edis Cantor cannot go out by himself and have that much of an impact. I don't think you, that's my point. I think if you found four or five other guys, they play their way. This would be the biggest topic we walk away with. You're saying, Canter, if he was surrounded by other NBA players, would have a worse chance? No, I am saying those guys would dominate.

He's saying it works if it's all the game. If he's one of five old guys. If he's one of five women. But if the person tried to slide over for him. If Enis Cantor played in the WMBA next year, I'm saying they just put Enis Cantor out there for 20. 25 of 40 minutes. That's what I'm talking about. I don't just don't think he'd be able to play the game.

I wish you would just give up this bit. I wish we could. If that's what it would take for us to not talk about it anymore, I will. But I feel like that's not where we are. I'm not talking about it. I'm just reading emails. Dear patron of the panty hamster, tomorrow's the SGA plus Tony Romo birthday for Oklahoma DZD1.

Josh Stanley. His leaders are Buck, Blake's concert selection, and asking officers if he passed. That's from Matt Brown. Matt with one team. She said, put your hands behind your back.

He goes, no, huh? Do you ever have to ask if you, like, if you passed, you know? You do. Is it affirmative? No. There's no question you want to find. I'm just walking in a line.

No one's like, I wonder how he did. Game Day Men's Health presents on this day in history. What people forget, too, is he was told to stand on one leg for like 10 seconds. And his, after doing it for a couple, he goes, I'm going to incorporate this into my PT. Yeah. This feels great. Still riffing. He was spitting game with that chick, right?

China. That was a great point by Machota. I didn't realize that his back was such an ongoing thing. I mean, it was bad when he's a player, but it's many years ago. You think like an older athlete, maybe their body? Yeah, but if it was breaking down towards the end anyways, they might not be able to like... I agree with you. Don't do it to me.

I thought, though... I'm a reporter. It's a good thing that he didn't play golf all day. Yeah, I thought it was mostly because of the CBS thing. But, you know, I was once wrong. I thought it was going to be settled by now, I thought they'd be like it's a one week. I think now he's got to be trading it every day growing percentages of not coming back.

Yeah, I would say it's below 50% at this point, right? A lot of money. At the moment that they announced the suspension, I would say 90% chance he comes back. It's been a while now. They're actually starting to call games, and they're still like, maybe he'll be back. We'll see. That's a fine point.

if this is all just coverage for his stint to get better? It's possible. I'm going to put it back up to 60% he comes back just based on that point. Mark Sanchez is available for a rebound. He's not coming back. If Remo can't come back from this, Sanchez is not coming back from that. You'll have a good point if that happens. All right, so today is Friday, August 14.

on this day in what year was the last public execution in the United States 1928 we've done this one too recently yeah

it's like 1972 public execution in the United States and I think it's Utah I guess merge It was actually 1936 I think you're thinking of like France they might have had like a literal guillotine

public execution in the 70s and that's when they would that's when the French soccer team got real good because they used the head it bounced off of it. Right. Now, I remember reading about this, and I believe there was a crowd that they could not contain. I think it was NBA game level crowd.

20,000 fans. Yes. Welcome in tonight, folks. As Rainy Buffet was hanged in Kentucky. If you're drawing 20K, I'm surprised that they were like, we got to stop this. Who's the history? Dan Carlin, I think, did something on public executions once. Undercard.

On this day in 1945, they call it. VJ Day, VJ Day. It was celebrating the end of World War II. Imperial Japan had surrendered. On this day, in 1980, Wayne Gretzky at 19 years old is named

MVP of the NHL. The youngest to ever win it, he would win it the next five years in a row as well. Go ahead, Jake. Nah, I learned from... You learned from that one, but not the WNBA. No, I learned from the story he just did about World War II. You got one front at a time.

I'm not interested in doing. Wayne Gretzky was protected by the league and was kind of a siret because they needed to juice ratings. In 1980? All right. On this day, in 1986, Pete Rose gets the final hit of his career. 4,256.

On this day in 1989, the Sega Genesis released. Big day. What a day. It's never a Genesis guy myself, but obviously that had an impact. Yeah. I think that was a divorced household kind of thing. The kids who had Genesis just never felt like they were doing as good. Well, you'd end up with two.

If you had both, it was a divorce move. That's what we had at my grandparents' house. I said it. back up. He had both. There's no doubt. Sega's great. And on this day in 1995,

oh, a yay boo. You love that, right? Shannon Faulkner becomes the first female cadet in the history of the Citadel. That is South Carolina's state military college, right? Way to go. Female. So proud of her.

Girl dads, we really love. Yeah, yeah. This is going to go good. Especially, oh, wait, that's a break, breaking down barriers. Faulkner quit the school less than a week later, citing the stress of her court fight and her isolation among the male cadets. There was a guy like doing death threats, like very credible death threats. Like he would walk up behind her at class, like whisper in her ear and then be gone.

And this happened enough times. She was like, I'm just going to go home. I believe the first one, is it first one to complete the Citadel? Do you know, Dan? I don't know. on this day in history it's Shannon Faulkner This is how Nancy Mace First Came the Prominence as a person in America

I do remember her success at the Citadel She completed it Something like that She's some kind of first woman at the Citadel record holder To do something First woman to do something You can sit on my Dell All right

Now it is August 14th This Day in Dumb Zone history This story is from 2020 and I made mention of yesterday how it made me mad at the time, not anymore, but at the time I was upset with Angelo for going to Coldstone. Well, on this day on the show, we did a story in 2020, a homeless man had broken into a Tampa Bay Stadium and lived there for a couple weeks. Yeah.

It was just concessions. That's awesome. He had actually done more damage to the team store because he was wearing all of the jerseys. Alternates, cool. Sleeping in the team blankets and stolen all the jerseys. He did some damage to the concessions, but he did more damage

to the merchandise store by sleeping in all their stuff. Snuggie. In 2024, we were out here at camp, and Jake said he can tell which kids didn't come from the girlfriend. Wait a second. So when they're walking around...

Yeah. You could tell. What's the claim? I think that you could tell... Like if she's walking along with three kids... Yeah. You're saying you could identify which kid isn't... Those kids didn't come from that DNA. Correct.

Oh, I see. It came from the high school girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. And they also just... I mean, the age thing, but sometimes... I mean, a lot of times it's really easy. That's probably what I was thinking.

Well, yeah. Certainly there are shades. We had Jordan Lewis on the show. I loved him. That's big. I tried to get him back many times through the DMs, but I'm futile in that chase. When the player tells the PR guy, I'm good.

Yes, few things better. Feels good. Right. She really likes me. Yeah. And then last year, still out here, Jake told us about his field trip to the Hollywood Bowl, where was it a orchestra that played the score of Jurassic Park?

Yeah, the Los Angeles Phil Harmonic. symphony or whatever. It's a world famous symphony, and they played... I'd never been to the Hollywood Bowl. It was incredible experience. It was with a couple of friends. And now next week he's going to be headlining. Yeah, that's right. No, but T.C. and I are headed to L.A. tomorrow morning. No Hollywood Bowl currently on the docket.

They do have Top Gun Maverick playing with the same setup. Interesting. With the orchestra. Didn't you say the crowd would cheer at some parts? Oh, my God. I got a feeling you guys will work in the Hollywood Bowl. You know what I'm saying, man. Whatever he says, hold on to your butts.

You think you would just remain silent throughout that, or would you stand up and shout? Dude, there were cheers all throughout. It's a great, it's just like being at Alamo. It seems fun. And that's also when you knew who was an absolute nerd for who cheered for the DNA clipy thing, the Strand. Get out of here.

Dono DNA. And it's an old enough movie. that there are kids who are now scientists because of that DNA strand. Yes. Yes. And they're getting their funding cut. Yeah, yeah. Is that it?

All right. We got other birthdays, former cowboy Roy Williams. 38 or 11? 46. Which Roy Williams would that be? I'm going to say that's 11. See safety. Not the wide receiver.

The real Roy Williams, I like to say. He would be a linebacker today. Don't you think that's the rear war, like the other ones? Like what? No, because I'm a Texas fan. I was at that time. And the legend of BJ Johnson, Lyme is sweet.

No, BJ Johnson, Sloan Thomas. So I go with it. Roy Williams. I can't say the name Roy, Roy. Rory. Julius Jones, 45. What a player. Dr. Jay.

He's got his son who's a hell of a prospect. In my fantasy league, he was a 1-1 in his second year. Do you know how big he went off for that stretch at his rookie season? He had like 800 yards rushing in the last nine games of the season. Meaningless yards. Could have Stephen Jackson. One of the worst Parcell's picks we had. Greg Ellis, 51.

One of the better ones. Great cowboy. He would play for free, would never do anything against the franchise. Oh, except that one time that he was injured until he got his new. contract and then he was healed and then he played was he kind of the subject of a thanksgiving fight for you yeah because you were thankful that the cowboy switched to a three-four your mom didn't enjoy what when we don't why can't you have things in the life that you like is it like right after you were done playing life where you put

two boys in the car this is the same stage for sure what you hired a I heard of the shop jock, and all of a sudden, I'm mad that he's joking about that. That's, that's a peak time. You said I'm going to go around the table, and I know Jake is one of my kids. Exactly. What are we doing? You hand me the mic. Yeah, oh, shot.

Yeah, exactly. But to be 12, man, when you realize like, holy shit, they really get a rise out of everything I say. Can't wait. Well, if you would have known about this Ennis Cantor thing back then. John Klingberg is 34? Found him to be a very pleasant man. That's a bet on yourself and lost, I think. Matt Graham is at a star's authority.

Oh, yeah, they were offering some kind of a long-term deal, like seven a year, and then he's like, no, no, we should be getting 10 a year. Yeah, I think he ended up getting one for like seven. Like a one for, yeah, one year. Yeah, not, yeah. It's always nice to us. As we've mentioned, Magic Johnson, 67. Okay, he can't move.

You're saying he's not a top five player in the WMBA. Make this clear. I don't think so, dude. I'll see if I can find a video of him running. Could you beat him in a race? Yes. All of you could, too. I could not beat him in a race.

Now give TC two months. Yeah. Yeah. He could beat the fastest man. If I put my mind, dude, yeah. Mike Brable, 51. Boy, that challenge flag meme is... Oh, yeah.

...going hard right now. So will everything he does. Here's Mike Rable throwing his panties off his balcony. Tim Tebow is 39. It's a good man of God. Has he been in a due perfect video? You would have to think. It seems like a guarantee.

Mike Mayak is 68. Cracker. NBC. Great, great analyst on the radio. He is. Former Raiders GM. Have you had him in your booth? No, he's a Westwood guy, but I really enjoy his work.

He did Notre Dame games for a while, and he's by far the best person to have done it. Raiders GM with Gurdon, right? Yeah. Also, it says here, former giant safety. Can you imagine that? Yeah, Boston College. Mike Mayock was in the NFL. He's covering Chris Collinsworth.

All right, here's the most confusing athlete I've ever heard of. Kenneth Lofton Jr. is 24. Unrelated. Not Kenny Lofton's son. Wow. But his name is... Yeah. It's incredible.

Grizzlies? Does he still play Coops at all anymore? Lotteec? It was Lotech. Ed O'Bannon is 54. Son of a bitch. Landmark case. Yeah, he calls Blake a lot of enjoyment.

That's true. Radiohead. Josh Bell is 34? Dallas guy? Yeah. I went and saw one of his high school games and called in the bad radio to report. Really? The opposing coach thought it was his day to shine as he intentionally walked him over and over.

A high school kid. So we were just really into local high school phenom? He was a big deal, dude. Said go report on that. I mean, obviously, but even I remember that. He had a good career. Wayne Corbett is 53. Jake.

I had at least a T-shirt. I don't remember Shurzies at that time. Man. Juan Pierre is 49. Steading player. Hallie Barry is. 60. Really weird.

Yeah. Maybe. There's some mystical stuff going on with her. Yeah. What do you mean? Just seeing her on Twitter or whatever. Oh. She's just...

All of them got a little paltrow. Yeah. It's very paltrow. Gary Larson is 76. He's the cartoonist of the far side. I wouldn't mind making a candle from her, though. Milakunis is 50... Excuse me, 43.

Happy birthday. Defending Masterson? What's the deal? Yeah, she and Danny, yeah. She submitted a letter to the court. So did, I think it's her and Ashton Coucher, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are they still married?

They are, and they then had the video addressing it. There was one of the great weird artifacts of the last 10, 15 years. Yeah. Yeah. Was it during COVID? I feel like it was around then. I don't know. It must have been closed.

Or maybe am I thinking of it? They had a weird COVID video, too. They get some weird videos going. They don't bathe their kids. They do what? They don't bathe their kids. They don't bathe them? No.

Boy, that's an attractive option. Let me tell you. Yeah, dude. The amount of time lost. Yeah. God. What's wrong with bathing? It might be nice.

I mean, when I was a kid, that's how I was. Yeah. How you were what? You're an anti-bath? Yeah. It felt like torture. That checks. Yeah, yeah.

I'd go a week. We're aware. You boys have been to county. Lynn Cheney is 85, Jake. She's not a lesbian, but she is the mother of all. He played Frankenstein, right? That's an old callback. Spencer Pratt is 43.

Hold this L. Someone yelled a lot in the background. That's right. You guys going to go see the Spencer Pratt? No, but I'll tell you, seeing the mayor they have now on TV, she definitely does not inspire confidence. Yeah. Like, she's got to weigh in. I mean, it seriously is like an action movie every night, so they got to go to her for, hey, everything's on fire.

What are you got today? Man. Look, I'm just the mayor. She's like, look, I don't give a shit. Whenever John Mullaney did his late night show on Netflix, it was from L.A. and the first night the big monologue, he's like, L.A., great city. Clearly no mayor, right?

For no mayor, doing good. But who's... That's how you get Spencer Brett. Get in direction. Susan Olson is 65. That's Cindy on the Brady Bunch. You want to go see the house? I know where it is.

You know where the Brady Bunch house is? I've seen it on acid before. Author Daniel Steele is 79. This is for Blake, because she is known for her romance novels that focus on successful women navigating family and career challenges. How many times has she written the word throbbing?

Oh, my God. Get the moms and mom. Such as a successful violinist. Kevin Renee Cadigan is 56. This is for you. Okay, is it the dog from Frazier? What is this? Says here, third eye blind.

I know the main guy. He's that. I'm quite a big fan of his, Stephen Jenkins, but I don't know the names of the people in the band. Preston Lacey is 56? Oh, yes. The big guy from... Which member was Kevin, whatever?

Because the bassist got called out on Reddit for breaking up a marriage with a threesome. Yeah. I think it was even a gay... I think it was a... It was. M.M.F. Oh, Grubble's a dream.

Yeah. Man. His dream is to see the female POV in an MMF. Yeah. But our dumb zone birthday today, we're going to give to Steve Martin. Because he's still alive. Absolutely. Going strong.

81. Steve Martin is 81. Now, do you have a problem with him playing his character to do a city card commercial, Blake, with Martin Short, two guys who you think they'd had enough? What character is he doing? I don't know. I think they're on a show. together. My wife watches it. They are, yes.

Only murders in the building? Why does Steve Martin, if you're 81 and you got all the money, I can see where you want to do only murders in the building. You want to creatively keep putting out. I'm still creative. Have you considered how this

credit card would use point? Why would you do that? Think about how much pot you could buy for how much they gave you for a city card commercial. Is it just one? They're like, his agent is like, look, it's a million dollars and it's one afternoon. Do you want to do it? Hell yeah. What?

More? Steve Martin's deal with... I don't know. I mean, to do the show is, again, that's a lot of... Yeah, it's probably more. All right. Well, born on the Stay Now Dead, we have... They run in that commercial, an awful lot.

Earl Weaver and Mark the Bird Fidrich. It's true. El Popo. That's right. He invented the middle finger. Dead on this day, still dead. Josephine Cochran She invented

The automatic dishwasher Oh the air of Cochran warehouse There's a lady who just didn't want to keep doing the dishes I respect that I like doing the dishes And it's a great sheet code Like at a Thanksgiving somewhere Because no one else likes doing the dishes

And I like doing the dishes Sure and everyone else wants to be together with other people, and I don't. So, like, I'll be doing the dishes. Now I've maugged all the other husbands that are there. Lazy asses. Because, yeah, like, my... They're going to be hearing about that.

My buddy, like, his wife will be like, oh, my gosh, he does dishes, and blah, blah, blah, blah, and my buddy's like, bro, what are you doing? And she's just... And I'm there, you know. Anyway. Also, dead on... the stay still dead. We have,

you know, some people are so famous that just their relatives that get famous. This is his mom. Gladys Presley. You thought I was going to say a different last name.

I did. That's the mother of Elvis. Died at the age of 46. So it's kind of hereditary. That's right. She died eating a sandwich on the toilet. After having her stomach.

She bit off her tongue and skittered up under the vanity. If you did, the next two generations above you had both died eating a sandwich on the toilet. How terrified would you be of every bell? Would you ever?

You're never taking a sandwich in. That's guaranteed. You just eat a plate of spaghetti on the toilet like everyone does. And that's what happened on this day in history. Would that be a bet pay? We came up with a good bed payoff the other day. What was it? Eat a plate of spaghetti on the toilet? The single earring for all...

Oh, yeah. season. That's way too long. Super Bowl to Hall of Fame game. You have one. Super Bowl, yeah. You have to change it out by theme. The day after the Super Bowl.

Have like a little to the Hall of Fame game. You have to have one earring. Two weeks is a good bet on that. Months and months. I'm in for it. Dude, I grew my hair out. I got to go clock in.

I would rather throw my hair out. All right, Ham. Thanks for joining us. There he goes. A little time and a half. That's Ham. His appearance today was brought to us by Plum Quick?

Plumquick Company.com. That's right. Parlay Collective.com. So what's our pre-ken check? Well, all we really have set in stone is, well, Blake will be going. That's a right off the RIPCA. T.C. myself. The Cowboys need Blake.

Seattle. We're going to drive up to L.A. And we're going to see the Odyssey on big screen at 11. Whether John Machota likes it or not. Whatever he's... 70mm. The biggest one they have, I think. This is not just IMAX?

Like, it's better than IMAX? Yeah. There's what, 20 of them in the country? Something like that? Yeah. So that... None in the Southern Hemisphere. Something to think about.

Or there's one in the Southern Hemisphere in Australia. So all of South America... That's something to think about? No, IMAX. Just think about how many people... You know what you didn't do in the news the other day? Totally eclipse in Europe. I saw.

Yeah, it's Spain. It's Europe. These guys. Must not be a big deal. Man, I loved it when it came here. Yeah, if it was going to be here, I would have discussed it. But, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I didn't care when it was in Spain.

Okay. I loved it when it was here. We don't really have any set plans. We each have a hotel room. I got us a hotel room tomorrow night. And Sunday, we're going to... You wanted to wake up not sweating? Sunday, we're going to Dodgers Brewers at like 115.

scoble starting and Sunday night we're going to Tim Dillon at the comedy store at 7.30 and then coming back. But Saturday during the day possibly VJ meetup. You're going to get home at like 2 in the morning. Groundlings show.

I don't, I mean whatever. Well, it's midnight. Pacific time. I know, but then you work on Dallas time though. I guess you're doing a morning show. I mean, I'm excited about it. I realized that from afar it looks probably like a beating, but... I mean, a beating, but not if...

I mean, it seems great, too. I'm fired up. But there's a lot, that's just a lot. Going to have a good time. But you're a guy who does a lot. Hey, 15 pounds of shit in a 10-pound sack. Y'all grandparents are... Adios, mofo.

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