The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 8-19-26 | Pacman Jones and Von Miller from Cowboys Training Camp

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

Training camp coverage is made free this week by Plumb Quick! Don’t wait until water is coming through the ceiling to figure out who your plumber is. [phone] or visit www.plumbquickcompany.comExclusive "interviews" with Pacman Jones and Von Miller live from Cowboys training camp day number 5 for us. Reaction from the Cowboys-Saints joint practice that featured many fights and our big Viewer Mail segment from the tennis courts (00:00) - Open: Cowboys Saints joint practice (12:56) - Sports: Dan and Pacman Jones (41:15) - The Dumb Zone’s exclusive 1-on-1 with Von Miller (01:17:48) - Big (Wednesday) Viewer Mail Bag (01:42:28) - Dodgers owner in federal trouble (01:59:58) - News: Dallas police to unleash barnacles (02:22:19) - VM Birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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MacGrim is here. No Dallas Cowboys players are here. Today is a player's day off. But we're getting that field mode. a man doing it. It's unfortunate. For now. You mean compared to robot?

Yeah, I was just thinking that's a lady's job at my house. Oh, I was thinking that was a robot's job, which I'm glad TC's here for. Walking in the bathroom, there's a golf course right next to our hotel, or where we're broadcasting from, and they have one of those little Roomba robots cutting the grass. That's the dream. They got robot long cutter now? Yeah. It's a lot like Roomba.

It'll map your front yard. or backyard, charge it up, and you say, hey, go. And it'll cut the grass and return to its charging base. That thing would be meeting the face of my Big Bertha. Why? If I rolled up on that T-box. Oh, you could. Smash it.

There's a lot of, all right. You're not worried about hurting your Bertha? Then you'd be hitting out of the rough. First time I ever swung a golf club, it was my uncle's new Big Bertha driver, and the clubhead flew off and went further than the bowl. I don't know what I did, but I somehow broke the club, and then I didn't play golf again until the April Fool's open. I think we'll victim blame there.

20 years later. You don't entrust your big bertha to a first-time swinger? No. It's tough. But we're keeping the main thing, the main thing. Nice. And we're talking football. What do you mean?

Okay. Facts. Facts. A lot of fights out here yesterday, and I had a front row seat. It was incredible. So my claim yesterday at the start of the show, this is going to be awesome. I feel like on my end, that check cashed because I was surprised they kept practicing.

That's what all of the security people said. Like, they got to stop this. And that moment occurred probably with four more fights to come. Like we were at, I can't believe they're still out there. Yeah, but you're allotted two hours of a joint practice. You're not stopping at 159. You're getting all the work you can. Yeah, that's probably true.

If you've been in this situation where you can't fight people, but you are smashing into them, I don't know why they wouldn't do a little something at the end of every single play. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you just want to get into the sports thing, but I had, it was crazy, dude. But that's what a game is. Yeah. What you just described? It is, except you're going, you don't take any breaks.

There's no real refs out there. You don't have it. It's not on TV. It's everybody's wilding. You know, I don't think they're thinking about the. John Machota's phone the same as they are Fox or CBS's camera. This feels like you are at, I don't, like, they don't think there's anybody here. Like, they're yelling stuff at each other.

They're punching. There was, why's a rock who got thrown out for throwing another punch yesterday? Yeah. Again, he was the guy that last week. I saw fake Tad walking him off. Cable. And I thought, I thought he was hurt because he was in full pads, you know, and I'm like, oh, they're getting him out of here pretty quick. He walked right by the VIP.

He threw like the Jones's tent. And then I see on social media. So we were here in the tent, which is right next to the walking area where they have to go back to the locker room. And he was taking his pads off. He was like, they came at me twice, bro. What am I supposed to, you know, he's just defending himself. But here's the thing, though. There's no locker room here for like the opposition.

So when I was standing out there, the saints arrived, they come in, I assume on a bus. It's no different than when in 8th, 9th, 10th grade before Varsity. you would go get ready on the sideline at the field. So they were like half-dressed? Dude, it was like a high school team. The Saints roll in, Nike slides on, like, holding their helmet through their shoulder pads. They're taping each other up, like they're putting on rib protectors on the side. And it looks like a high school team.

And the cowboy fans are right there kind of like giving them shit. And then we just split up and we go at it. And it was a lot, man. I think it's because they're technically not supposed to drive people to the ground. So there's no rules on, hey, don't hit me this hard. Don't shove me. Somebody was pointing this out yesterday. The whole conceit of this setup is nonsense.

And you can see it in some of the running backs, because they'll claim that these are like thud periods or no-go-to-the-ground periods, but no one tells the running back. Or they do, and the running back's like, hey, I got about three weeks of being able to teeth off on you guys. So you'll see running backs just running straight into it, a defender, and they're like, what am I supposed to do here? Yeah, and then, oh, I'll get you on the next play. I should take you to the ground, but since we're not allowed to do that, you're running into me way harder than I'm running into you, and then everybody gets pissed off. And it was, I feel like six of the eight fights were Cowboys' Defense, Saints' offense.

Definitely more on this side. Yeah. Way more. That's where I was, because we had Caleb Boners. On the other side, there was a couple early. There were. I started really focusing on that just because you could get better pictures of they're facing you. And there was pretty much none after the beginning part.

Yeah, pretty chill over there. Was Olavay giving Caleb what's up? I think that was a draw, dude. I mean, he scored once. There was another play where they ruled it a catch, kind of on the ground. I think it would have been overturned. But either way, Dan's right. he does look small out there.

He does. At the same time, it just feels like he's everywhere, dude. Like, he peels off and he, like, he just has like a, he looks like a quarterback out there. When he just seems like he knows where to be. He's always at the ball. And a lot of it, he's a two-time all pro.

Or pro bowl, or at least. A lot of he's good. No, I know he's good. So if he's matching up carrying him in the sleigh, he's got the toughest assignment out there for sure. But in any case, the Cowboys' defense just does look a little feistyer. Do we have a reason? It seemed like Caleb wasn't playing that much in the early going?

I think that was a sample issue for when you viewed. Okay. Because he was out there for almost too long at one point, it seemed like. I've been reading about fights across the NFL in the same bit. So is this something they're going to do. address this at some point, right? Because they've morphed into starters not playing in games. Preseason games, yeah.

And so, obviously, this is like, hey, this, they now view these as more important than preseason games for the starters. Preseason games still serve their purpose for the coaching staff. There's a lot, I think, that goes into that as a dress rehearsal. But, you know, you can't stop things down. You can't, you know, it's, the game is the game, and that's a great way to go through things. But if every one of these is leading to punch his throne, you know, they're going to then have to address it. Yeah.

Somehow fines, I don't know. Or stop allowing these joint practices. I saw a guy, Duke Mannyweather, who trains a lot of these guys, O-Line guys, was tweeting about, like, I've been against this since we started doing it. Like, this doesn't work. You're going to have fights every time. These guys are too isolated for too long to just drop them in here together like this with no real structure of a regular game. I mean, I don't know.

Hey, what if we did this? I think at the end of the day, what's the big deal? Yeah, that's my position. Here's the fix. Let the boys brawl a little bit. Like I heard Shottie say, you know, we didn't get the work we wanted. Okay, well, was it better than work you would have got against yourself? Because if it's still better than work you would have got against yourself?

yourself, then you keep doing it even if it's not perfect against another team. Like, they're giving you what you want. Maybe it's not, though. It might not be. It might not be. But I also, I was laughing yesterday because they threw a taunting flag on George Pickens. Yes, yes. In the joint practice?

Maybe two of them, dude. He was bawling out. They have refs in there. He didn't care. He was taunting. But it's funny to think about, like, yeah. In fact, like four of them flew. Everybody threw the flag and it was like, okay, we got the point.

The one guy that was standing next to it, we could have just done that. But, you know, the reps are getting in shape for the season as well. Yeah, it was fun to watch, man. Really fun to watch. Love seeing Dan and T.C. together. So it's T.C. with a camera. Dan and Jake with a mic kind of walking around. And there's three people there.

Two of them way more comfortable pushing boundaries. and it's a good thing because if there's only two, no one, you know, you got a tie. But there were, for every fight there was in a Cowboys practice yesterday, there was one time that Dan and T.C. were told, hey, whoa, back up. No, no, no, that only happened once. It happened way more than once. And you got one, too.

You were outside of the yellow box as far as anyone. Yeah, we walked a little far onto the... I didn't know. We probably walked about 40 or 50 yards too far onto a field. They pointed over to the other field. They're like, that's actually where the media goes. If they had handed me a set of instructions. That's the thing, dude.

Then I would have followed them to a T, but they never do. No, they don't, they, it's like anything else. It's not endemic to them, but it's like kind of slips shot enforcement. Yes. Like at this point, we're saying this at this point. So you just kind of got to roll with it. And it's inverse to the, you're standing in the organization. Like the guys in charge are like, I don't give a jeers.

Yes. And the guys. Right from the very top. to the very bottom. It is a polar. You're exactly right. Well, I think they were fine until Dan took a handoff. He was popping the 1950s dummy pretty hard over there. Yeah, the Jiu-Jitsu Face Man. Well, if we're going to get into some of our audio of guys

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cut that up a little bit. Yeah, it's awesome, dude, because if you stand in the right place, which is basically right in between the two fields, and the cadence of the scrimmage lines up correctly, you're watching a play and then a play, and then a play, and then a play, and it's just back and forth, and it's back and forth.

And I will tell you, we were standing right there when George Pickens caught yet another, no chance, yolo ball. I mean, I just feel like we don't really realize how much DAC has never had a guy like that until last year. And maybe last year they dipped their toes into it. It feels like he was involved quite a bit.

But I don't know, man. Like guys who are out here all the time are like, this guy's on another level right now. I don't know. Freak showing. Which one's like the better receiver? But Pickens is, whatever, it's not a competition. They're all great.

The feel, whenever you're by him, watching him play football is different than anyone else they have on the team. Yeah. It's legit. It's very exciting. Well, and it's interesting the way that, yeah, for now. But they have him on a, it's another prove it deal. But he seems to be on board with it.

And his agents are even like, yeah, hey, how about this? Just go kick ass. You won't believe the contract you're going to get this off. season. Kick ass. Don't have another Vegas instance. Like, just show that when, because if he can display, hey, when you get, he got paid, he's even better.

He stepped it up more and became more serious. Kept the main thing, the main thing. The main thing that will be a five-year deal for, oh, 200? 200 minimum, right? Sure. 40? Yeah. They'll start at 40?

Yeah. So yeah. And he's really only had one season, like last season. Like last season is the top of his career, right? So if you do that a second. Most guys in the franchise tag, you probably already know what kind of deal you're getting. It's a pretty small window.

That's very true. If he gets hurt in game one, you know, I mean, I guess everyone knew on the franchise tag if you get hurt. But I think he could add more money than a lot of players in a franchise tag situation, which is probably a factor in why he's so comfortable playing for it. Dack broke his leg on the tag and still got a deal.

Yeah. Certain injuries. But at least it was a discount, right? No, he had to make up for lost time. Certain injuries are, certain players are dead. You know, I mean, the receiver hurting his knee is a lot worse. Look at Tyree Kill. Yeah.

So I was surprised to learn, I guess I didn't remember this, just looking at Von Miller stuff this morning, that he was tagged twice. Von Miller was. I don't remember that all. Consecutively? I believe so, yeah. Boy, that second one must have been a hefty number.

Well, back then, where they certainly edge has always been pretty good. His entire career, I bet he's been handsomely compensated. Well, we'll get to Von Miller in a minute, but we're walking around the sidelines. So, yeah, we're looking for whether it's players walking off or when you're with the Dallas Cowboys, there's ex-players all around. Good Lord. Yesterday was... We saw Sean Lee.

I didn't see Drew Breeze, but he was here. Oh, he was? I was looking for him, but he was here. He was pushing Advocer to the fans. Everywhere you can make a buck, you know. We did a bunch of fan interviews, so maybe we'll play that stuff tomorrow. But, yeah, quite... It was probably the most hopping day at camp, right?

Yeah. It was great. Irvin was still here. The stands were packed. which has not really been the case. The sideline, which we learned, they charged $23 for the sideline VIP thing, which I think is pretty low. It's low, it's worth it.

We heard that, like, 15 years ago, it was 20 bucks, or whenever they first started 10 or something. It is that sideline. I'm going to bet that the area is, the cover. The autograph areas? Probably more. Yeah. Plus it has shade. Yeah.

Yeah, we should have found that out. But we didn't. I don't even know how to get over there. Yeah, anyway, it was pretty awesome. And so we see Pac-Man Jones is walking around. Yeah. Taking pictures with Jerry. Yeah, I'd seen him earlier and was trying to tell you guys, like, hey, dude, he's roaming around out here.

He's got a mic. Yeah, as many ex-players, not all. I mean, Sean Lee is just walking around being Sean Lee and wanting to give some advice to some young players or maybe even share some with some older players. I have Sean Lee. I would like him on our show very badly. Do you know about his company?

He works for some like, or part owns like a football AI company for coaching. And as best I can tell, it's literally just using Sean Lee's brain to train like a model. He presented at like Sloan sports or something like that. So you think AI is going to be doing our job soon. Do you feel like Shottie is in trouble? I think that it's going to be robots coaching robots,

and I think I'm going to love watching it. But a robot will watch it for you. So yeah, but you're right. Yeah, he's not doing a pod. But so Pac-Man is walking around like you said with a microphone. He's the host of Politely Raw. That's the name of his, well, I think he'll tell us here too. And I think I only know about it from the Andy Dalton stuff that comes up, right?

Like that was the big pop of his podcast. I think that might have been on another one possibly, like with Julian Edelman. But in any case, I was out here when I first saw that Pac-Man was here. And then Pac-Man's kind of waiting, and Jerry comes out. And Jerry walks out towards the field. This is when practice is starting to – it's maybe half an hour before practice. field's pretty empty. And Jerry stops, turns around, and just goes, where's Pac-Man? And they turn, they go get packed, they walk him over, they put their arms around each other, and they're talking,

and I was standing with Tad, the head honcho. And I just kind of wanted to chat him up after Dan's disastrous interaction with him the other day. We were just standing there, and I was like, so how does this happen? Like, does he tell you, or does he have a guy who tells you? Is it the day of, day before. And he was like, you know, with Irvin now, he's with Netflix. So they've been on this for months. With Pac-Man, it's a little more like, you know, whatever. But he was like, I was like, oh, it's cool to see him talking.

And he's like, yeah, we were at like an NFL honors thing a couple months or a couple years ago. And we saw Pac-Man down there, Jerry and I did. He waved to us. And like, I figured out how to get him to where we were. He's like, I look back 60 seconds later. and both Jerry Jones and Pac-Man Jones were weeping. He was like, they love each other.

It's a real deal. I mean, we recount that story here, but like... I'm so excited to hear that. It was intense. Like, the two of them really embraced for a long time on the field. And then, you know, we got to talk to them about it afterward. There's a lot to Jerry. Yeah.

That's the absolute best stuff. I told Ted that. I was like, honestly, this is why I can never stop being a cowboy fan. I don't know if it's good or bad, but... This is... That he, like, looks at other hell raisers. He's like, finally one of us. Do you think anybody's embracing Patrick Dumont?

Oh, my God, yeah. Or ever has. Did you have to do that? Jimmy Hasselm. Weren't we having a good time? We were, but I just want... I'm just trying to illustrate how much we have parents hug them as a boy. Love one man over...

Right. Dumont has kids that hug him like that. Yeah, yeah. So, Pac-Man knows... It's good to see. you. He's, right, he has someone else call him. Right.

Pac-Man is doing what we're doing, though. He's got a microphone, so he's looking to talk to people. Yeah, he's done with Jerry. He's a plebe. And to him, we're not people. To us, he's people. So I wanted to go talk to him and let's interview Pac-Man. And he, though, was standing outside of, there was a lot of,

a little tiny gang bang of reporters all with their arms outstretched and either their phone or their microphone or something in the face of George Pickens. George Pickens won't really one-on-one people, but he will stop and talk and you can just pepper him with questions. So at first, yeah, that's where I walked in to like, hey, let's do that and we'll just have TC film and then maybe I'll ask a question, you know? We did it years ago with T.O. But then we see Pac-Man behind the hole.

Pac-Man's not reaching out his arm because Pac-Man knows, hey, if George Pickens sees me, I'll get the one-on-one because I'm Pac-Man. So he's way behind the group of people, and I thought, well, let me go back and talk to him for just a minute or so. He will deny me, though. But that doesn't mean we don't get to talk to Pac-Man for a little while. So let's hear Pac-Man here. Hey man, can we talk to you for a minute for DZTV?

Yeah. By the way, love being with TC. We got a camera. And now we have a, especially with fans, but players don't mind it either. When you throw DZTV out there, it just hits a little different. Could be anything. Certainly different if you're holding a phone and you have nothing around you, you know. Certainly different even if you have like a kind of a microphone set up, but it's clearly just audio.

Like when you say the word TV With a big camera With a big camera behind you All of a sudden Like the fans on the side Everybody's like hey You know They love it

They love it Um Pac Man though He's not gonna get swayed by TV But here we are Hey man can we talk to you for a minute For DZ TV? Yeah

I don't want to steal the show Oh I'm sorry I went He says no he's waiting for George Pickens Does he say I would steal the show He says I don't want to steal the show Yeah And he said I would.

Yeah. That's funny. Like if I start talking to him, yes, that would take the attention from, yeah, George Pickens. You going to go ask him some questions? No. Yeah. Are you on one-on-one? 13, what's up, buddy?

Tell me this one thing. Yeah. How much do you love Jerry? Words can not express my love for Jerry. He'd been really good to me. I've had all access to everything since I've been a part of Jerry World, but unbelievable. What do you guys think that means? It means that he never...

I've had all access to everything. It means if he wants to come back here, he's good. If he wants to go to the Landry Room when he comes to a cowboy game, he's good. It's like Michael Irvin talks about when DeMarcus Lawrence went to Seattle and started chirping. Irvin ran right to YouTube and did a 20-minute video and started speaking in John Wichter. He was like, be careful, buddy. We don't want you to be excommunicado. Stay in the family, buddy.

This is a long-term thing. Because do you think... You think Joe Looney has a... I probably played for four teams. Anytime he wants to come back here, he's good. Do you think Netflix was like, wow. Michael Irvin, what a show. I'm not even...

This is just off top of my own head. I'm just going to hire Michael Irvin to put his podcast on Netflix. Or do you think Jerry might have had some hell of... there. I think he has help with all of it. That's what I mean. Yeah, and I think Pac-Man knows that. Jerry has Netflix connections. Michael Irvin sees Netflix is throwing out podcast money. Jerry, give him a quick call for me. Yeah. Or just endure, you know. I mean, it's endorsed this move. It's on the same scale as what the mafia does, but it's lower. Because if Michael Irvin hadn't played receiver at a high level and you just watch the video Jake's talking about,

I don't know that you'd say. Well, no, any show he's ever done, right? I mean, he's been on the radio. He's not. He flipped out at 103.3. Yeah, yeah. No, it's never. That's what he means is he's like, I'm in the family.

I'm good. And maybe it's not a direct paycheck from Jerry, but Jerry will. I also love that use of Jerry World. People usually say the stadium, but he's talking about the orbit. Yep. Yes. That's the real. Yeah.

Since I've been. part of Jerry World, but unbelievable. I've done a lot for me and my family. Always somebody I can call on. Like I heard it, that checks with what I heard. I heard somebody telling me a story that they saw you guys once a couple years ago. You hadn't seen each other in a while. You embraced and you literally were crying.

Oh, yeah. Literal tears. It is because that's what kind of relationship we got. Trying to search in my head for, could that happen for me seeing anyone? I'm going to answer that. No. Like I haven't seen, let's say, my wife in two years. Do I?

I don't know. I don't think birth father would do it. You'd be like, what's this about? Yeah, what do you want? I can't even, like, I'm going to just tell you this. He is on one of my accounts. Let's put it like that. So obviously, the relationships being forced to.

What does that mean? Or did I ask him what to do that mean? Yeah. Not really. I can't say specific, you know. He's on one of my accounts. But either he may be, whether it's a co-signing, Matt might know better than us. But an investment situation, maybe a literal like will type situation, they're financially connected.

My one question is, do you remember how many punts you got at campus? Seven. Seven. Did you try eight? Wade Phillips was. Yeah. But no, I didn't even try it. I just threw them over at seven.

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QualisGC.com. Okay, so what is he talking about here? Jake just said, I loved when you caught all those passes at training camp. It's Hard Knox, right? This is from Hard Knocks. Gosh, darn, I don't even know what year it would have been. 2008. Oh, 8.

Yeah, 08. Here we go. Here's Wade Phillips. Do you see that? You can see his face through the audio too, right? Do you see that? Pack. Pack.

Caught six punt, six balls. He had five, and he caught another one. He catches it. Six balls. He has six footballs with none of them touching the ground. That was amazing. It was. I mean, he told me six.

He said, I've done six. And I said, no. Put it under his arm called another one. Called another one. Five. We put three under this arm and two under that one and gets another one. I've never seen anybody that. Do we have this thing on tape somewhere?

I'd love to see it. Oh, we got to hear it. You didn't hear his laugh? I would love to shit. That's awesome. Okay, back to Pac-Man. And we talked to that guy. Man, I was such a fan of this, dude.

I was, and who wasn't, but just... Garrett? No, idiot. But just the dog-ass corner. How was he not here longer? Because he, like, tried to beat up the security guard they gave him at the jewel, I think. Yeah. Things happen.

My one question is, do you remember how many punts you caught at camera? Now he's going to, the fish tail grows a little bit here. Did you try eight? Wade Phillips was. Yeah. But no, I didn't even try it. I just threw him over at seven. Most I've caught is eight, though.

But he knows. He's been around football his whole life and he looked like you've never seen anything like that. He was like, he caught another one. Yeah, Coach Phillips. I think that that was, and I used to do it all the time just to work on my hands. But nobody was really seeing what I was doing. But yeah, it was going unbelievable. Coach Phillips was a great, great coach to me.

I enjoy playing the game. So, you know. One thing you guys have in common, I saw a show you did recently. He's not a real big fan of any. We got a no. This started with no. Yeah. Four questions deep.

That's why I felt like the punt thing was important. Give him a little sucky, sucky. Every single question was the perfect question to get more questions. Yeah. Like he was excited to talk about Jerry. He was not going to say no to. Like he wasn't just going to be like, hey man, I already told you no to the Jerry question. Now, I'm no, Dan.

This is not my game necessarily. This next one, I thought this could go bad. I'm going to bring up a time where he talked negatively about another NFL player. But I was in my back of my mind thinking, I bet everyone hates this guy so much that played with them. I bet he'll go for it. One thing you guys have in common, I saw a show you did recently. He's not a real big fan of Andy Dalton's career. Oh, yeah?

Me neither. That's up. Me neither. me either you had some good why why for you I don't think

he held us back a little bit he was just he was he was he's what he's I'm nothing against Andy as a person I love yeah but he's the number two

he's a good backup yeah we found that out that's what I thought to but yeah that was our I watch you know you're pretty blunt

when you be talking it was the old you know it was the old it was that he was done his his His prime was not here. And even in his prime, I don't know that he was the best.

I totally agree. Love him as a player, though. Love him as a player. I mean, as a person. As a person. Right. Yeah, he does throughout this, he'll, like, treat me with a little reverence. Like, I think he thinks I'm someone else.

Yeah. And I'm not going to dissuade him on that. Is it a dude that I want? Maybe he's a P1. Perhaps he's a... Saw the Steps video. A P1. Maybe he was watching...

Instagram. Maybe he saw the thing about the... Didn't you say we broke contain yesterday? Yeah. The Seattle broadcaster? Yeah, maybe he's very aware of her. He was laughing at that video. Hold on, we'll talk about her in a minute.

Is it a dude that I want in a dark alley? No. Does not want to go to war with Andy Dalton. As I tried telling you guys for years when he was here, and cowboy fan over here is like, oh, no, dude. That is such a clock of shit. What are you doing nowadays? I got my own pie.

Politely Raw, Pac-Man Jones show, where I talk about the same thing you, pretty much talk about sports and doing my way. Just BSing? Yeah, no, not really BSing. I like to keep the real. Yeah, having the ball, having the ball, and getting to say it my way.

Sorry. Do you guys, do, I got to check out your show. So do you guys give opinions on other sports and stuff, too? sport. Yeah? All sports. What do you got on the WNBA these days? The WNBA is pretty good right now.

I would say as far as the content. I like the WNBA. Caitlin or Asia? Who do you have? As far as Asia. Is it Asia Wilson? Asia Wilson is the best player in the lead. Like, you can't compare her to Caitlin.

No. You're comparing Caitlin? Oh, I'm just saying. Yeah. No way. If there's a donation. You think the league is out to. You're in the deep water now.

Yeah, you are. Compare those. well i think i'm gonna tell him i don't really care they look they let them hack it katelyn't quite a bit i can't tell you i've ever watched the whole game so yeah i just want to argue about it the media does a good job of blowing kate up but like if you look at the top five players in the w nba she's not even nowhere near it some say because she's white that's not true it's a lot of white good players in the w nb like

yeah i say i would never dream of saying anything like that yeah yeah Super nice to run into you, dude. Yes, sir. Yeah, good luck. Hope your pod blows up, man. We'll be tuning in. Yes, sir. Yeah, man.

It's true, I will be tuning in. This is why he lost, but he looked great. And I've always known Pac-Man had a booze problem for sure. Oh, really? Yeah, and he, in court. You don't fight your security guard sober. And all the stories, you know, and he would just look. He always kind of looked a little, like, you know,

And he just looked great. Like draggy. He looked great yesterday. And I, you know, I was looking up a story. I think he's probably got about a year, maybe a year and a half. I think at the end of it, court ordered. But he gave, like, a testimony in his last sentencing where he's like, alcohol is fuck my life up. You know, like, I realized every one of these issues got sober and he seemed healthy.

That's awesome. And Tad referenced something about it. He was like, you know, Pac-Man's got his thing together now. So it was cool to see him out here. He was dressed great. And I want to know if Jake got the same stylist, how long before you guys stop giving him crap? Do you think two years in every single day you're still like laughing at his outfit?

I'll use the word here. He had like platinum silver leather Nike's on. Yeah, I don't know. I think the guys would probably let me have it. Now, if you've seen any photos from training camp yesterday, head coach of the Saints and co-host of the Dumb Zone, Kellyn Moore and Dan McDowell, pretty much indistinguishable because Kellyn Moore wears shorts.

I don't see a lot of head coaches. They usually opt for like wind pants that are kind of joggers, but Kellan Moore wears like this material of khaki short. They looked like Dan's shorts. The same brand. He wears black tennis shoes. It's a great look. He wears a gray and black hat and a black hat and a black shirt.

and a black t-shirt that says Saints on it. And he has the, now listen, 58 and 2, 59 and 1, this is one of, if not the most successful college quarterbacks of all time. I respect the piss out of Kellyn Moore. He also has a very non-athletic posture and stance, and I swear to you from a distance, sneaky athlete Dan and Kellynmore,

you can't tell them apart. I like what you're saying here. And he He doesn't look like a head coach I've been compared to so much worse That I'm soaking all of this in You should Please

Like Shottie runs around You know He's a runaround guy He's a not even hard Maybe but and Kellan Moore is less Kellen Moore kind of stands there With his back arched One play sheet in his hand

Man it's the dorkeiest aura But Shottie has so much aura He He's You flip the visor front to back. He's yelling at him. And he doesn't take shit.

I'll tell you that. Communa, whatever it is, part of it, is his thing. Like, he is the best glad-handed coach in the NFL, right? He's running here. He's running here. He wants to do this interview. He wants to do this. He kind of soaks that all in, whereas, you know, some coaches are like,

I'm here to coach football. That's not necessarily what shot he's all about. So then, it was Vaughn Miller Day yesterday. Bob Miller did a press conference here right behind us where we're sitting. And I have a bunch of that audio I want to give to you in a second. But we saw him out on the field. And the thing we were talking about amongst ourselves is, I wonder if Von Miller has ever been to Vaughn, the grocery store.

Is he familiar with Vons? Now, how much do we have to reset that? probably not much with transplants and stuff. I think it's West Coast Kroger, right? It's owned by Albertsons, but I don't know what Albertson zones anymore. Well, I put in my number, it's my Tom Thumb number. Okay. I think Albertson's and Tom Thumb might be...

Yeah. So it's dirty Tom Thumb is what I would call it. Maybe just because of the location. Perhaps there are cleaner vons. There are. Yeah, yeah. Okay, but not where we go. We go to dirty Tom Thumb.

but it's called Vons and his name is Vonn. I just remember Taco Charlton at one point Taco Bueno couldn't wait to lock him up and so yeah that's all so now Von Miller though it's impossible to grab him one on one

because everybody he's Von Miller Day but I noticed he keeps stopping for girls because it was like so media can go out there but so can friends and family

pass wearers and not necessarily it's like it's just hot girls it's just if a girl wants to take a picture he'll do it you don't have to be full duck but I was thinking it was just girls okay and then I saw a guy jump in

and he's like hey can you get a selfie and he was very to everybody who asked can I get a selfie at course smile he's going to it's a quick thing So then I am holding my microphone I told T.C.

Hey, keep it over here. And I went up to ask him if I can get a selfie. And that's how I got this exclusive. The first. Dumb Zone exclusive, one-on-one interview with Von Miller. Now who is he saying? Oh, wait, I'll get a picture. Watch.

Can I get a quick picture? Thanks, man. Holding microphone. Here's my main man, Von Miller. You ever go to Vons? No, in L.A.? Know what Vons is? You had a grocery store.

I wish it was good. Yeah, get an ad. Get an ad. Yeah. Excellent. He was, that was as long as he talked to anybody. I'm just saying. He was guy to guy to guy to guy to guy.

So that's all that was available. You're literally, you're taking a selfie with him. He thinks you're a fan. Well, no one took a selfie. He was just filming. Right. Yet you started with, here with my main man, Von P. Here is my main man, Von Miller, you ever go to Von?

Dude, he's like, what the, what is happening right now? It's my main man up there. And you have to say it all in the same breath to get it out. Oh, yeah. Here's my main man, Von Miller, you ever go to Vons? Right, because he's in it. Yes. He is in a hurry, and he's very close to the exit.

That is the longest one-on-one that Von Miller has done at camp, though. Here's my main man, Von Miller, you ever go to Vons? Like, let's just get right to it. Yep. Let's not dance around it. Let's not give him a few options. But we also, of course, also gave him a yes or no question, so we're going to grade that a C.

Seeing him up close, he's got a very distracting tuft of hair on the back of his head. Oh, that's the new thing. Not a lot of new it is. He's bald. But yes, a triangle in the back of your head? Upside down, I think. Upside down triangle is like that pineapple thing? I don't know.

Misplace landing strip. I think. I think as some of the audio we're going to play will indicate, there's some space cadet to Von Miller. Okay, I got a lot of Von Miller audio besides the exclusive one-on-one that no one else has that you just heard. Was it tough for you to not let him know? Because he seemed to think there wasn't one around here. Oh, no, I'll meet you there.

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How special of a moment is this for you being from absolutely DeSoto and now playing for your hometown team? Yeah, it's really cool. It's like that movie Inception, like a dream within a dream. You know, I always wanted to play in the National Football League, and then you play for the Dallas Cowboys. You know, we're just going deep with a year 16, dream within a dream. It's super cool. I mean, being here, I know a lot of guys already.

Know a lot of coaches, too. Being here, being in this atmosphere, it's surreal. The, my goodness, where's my dream within a dream audio? I wanted to play with you. Let's see if it's right here. You know what I'm thinking of, though, when I hear that? Or no? Just treat this like it's the end of the news.

Do you know what I'm thinking of? I'm going to say John Radigan. The greatest layout ever in sports was when John Radigan was the Rangers announcer, and he was replaced during the season by Dave Barnett, I believe. Yeah, it was. Which is a pretty unprecedented move. That would happen to him. In front of the show.

So John, right, like, he was basically fired, but then brought back to be the sideline guy. And this was his first return. The absolute, he's back on the broadcast now. Here we go. All right, Dave, thank you very much. Coming up on Rangers Live, we've got all kinds of analysis from Steve Busby. We're going to hear the Round Washington Press Conference. And, of course, we will bring you the very latest on the Rangers.

activity in the draft today. You know, Tom, I had the strangest dream that I was sitting up there with you for a while, but you know what? I was living the dream before the dream. I'm back on the Rangers' lives set now, guys, and back to you. Strike one to Austin Jackson.

Rads is a bigger man than I am. I thought you were going to play. I don't even know if this will play, but asking him that question, I guess you have to, but pull me up, Blake, and see if this goes. Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously it was a very... Okay, that's not it, never mind. But just asking it, like when Norm asked Connor Williams, like, did you grow up a cowboy fan?

This is a big deal? It's like, yeah. Obviously, that's, that, we could have made fun of that for being, yes, obviously, yeah. But you're going to get a lot of that here. Yeah. Anyway, you're going to get, you know, like what, Von Miller is going to be 37 years old. For context, I believe, DeMarcus Ware retired after his age 34 season. And so, hey, Von Miller, what do you have left?

I mean, I can still play football. You know, I can still play football. But, you know, I can still contribute in other ways. You know, on my Super Bowl teams, it's not just one person that gets it done. I think you can say what you want to say about my play on the field and what I got left. When it comes to being a great teammate, like, if it was a Hall of Fame for that, like, I'm going to Hall of Fame first battle. To be honest, it's not... Do you feel that von Miller has confidence?

Yeah, I do. He's sort of dipping his toe in, see how it feels. Yeah. It's a sort of thing that I think to myself, but I would never say out loud. But I guess if you're him and you've been like in a just-add water, although DeMarcus wears the reason they want. Not the reason, but he was like the over-the-top type thing. But you can see how in Von Miller's mind,

he was a better player than DeMarcus Ware that year. I know, I'm just saying he'd been there a while. Yeah. Adding a second, Von Miller is a good idea. But then you add him to the Rams and they win. In his head, he's like, I'm pretty good at this. Yeah. Later in the press conference, he would say this.

I like the thing that I got charisma and I'm charming. I like to think, I love to talk. This is the easy part about playing football. Football is the hard part. lot of over laughter, yes, but he's very cocky, very confident. Back to what does he have left? I'm going to the Hall of Fame for his ballot. To be honest, it's not, I'm probably the best teammate that ever played in the National

Football League. And I say that with... Ever! What? How can he say that? What about Bronco Nogerski? Yeah. I'm going to go with like...

Homo. I'm going to go with like Everett McIver for not like running a legal case against the Cowboys when Michael Irvin stabbed him or any number of other guys. There have to be guys that have donated kidneys to teammates. Right, yeah. What about Brian Piccolo or whatever? Ever played in the National Football League, and I say that with all confidence in the world.

My ability to get people around me to play at a level that they wouldn't normally play at, like, I don't think nobody does that like me. And I said... That's an interesting thought. Just I did look at the Washington Commanders last. year and they seem to have a lot of defensive problems. But maybe they would have had way worse.

That's one of my least, at least you qualified it there. Because I was going to be one of my least favorite Dan moves. Well, he said it, not me. No, but yesterday it was, yeah, Sean Leader sure was a great leader and player. That's why they won all those Super Bowls. Well, I mean, if you're going to say, hey, I went to the Rams and they won the Super Bowl, see, I make people around me better. You might then have to say, oh, okay.

Where else have you gone? What if he took you from 93 overall to a 94? And that's what it took to win the Super Bowl. All right. And Washington from a 70 to a 72, but they still sucked. I don't know. All confidence in the world. My ability to get people around me to play at a level that they wouldn't normally play at,

like I don't think nobody does that like me. And I said the other day that I can contribute 10 to 15 players, that's without even being on the field. So you got a game that you play 50 snaps, you know, 60 snaps, something like that. I can win 10 to 15 of those without me being even on the field, without my play, just by my knowledge of the game and getting everybody else to play at a level they wouldn't normally play it. What a claim. Whether it's the defensive coordinator, defensive line, young guys,

I can contribute in so many different ways to win games. And that's not even talking about the type of player that I still believe that I am. That's something. Yes, not a lack of confidence. He will not fail because of a lack of confidence. And it's important to note he's not being asked to do anything close to what he did for the first decade of his career. If you look at his snap counts for his 10 years in Denver or eight years in Denver, he's playing almost a thousand snaps a year. About 900 to a thousand snaps a year.

And it's usually a breakdown of five or 600 pass rush snaps and three or 400 run defense snaps. The last three years, he averages about 350 snaps a year, not 900 or 1,000. And he's not out there for run defense, really at all. 70 snaps in 2024, 75 run snaps. I mean, he's out there for about four to five run snaps a game. So he's here just to get sacks. To get pressure at least. Pressure in sacks.

So he's asked what, or he's going to talk about what goes into getting a sack. It's some things that pass rushes do that take a lot of athletic ability. And it's some things that that's all mental and intelligence, too, just knowing where I fit on the pass rush, who I'm working with, time in the game, quarter, what offensive coordinator I'm going against, tendencies from offensive alignment. Those are things that don't take any athletic ability. I can walk into eight of those.

Eight. Yes, he was quoted elsewhere. He said he could fall out of bed and get six sacks or something like that. Then he was asked about that yesterday, and that was his. I mean, in Buffalo in 2023, he had 207 pass rush snaps and zero sacks. Well, he didn't fall out of bed that time. No. And he only had 17 pressures that whole year.

So it's not. I mean, it wasn't just a sack. Well, he probably made all the other players around him a lot better. Maybe, but, you know, I think people expecting him to be a double-digit sack guy are nuts. If he just does nine again, that's huge. I want him to help their defense. So who's your pass rushing four now? Miller, Azaraku, Gary Quinnon?

Well, you mean like just on a pass rushing down? Let's just say two-minute drill. Who are the four you're sending out on your defensive line? It's probably Did you say Gary? Asiraku and Quinnon? Probably. Not bad?

No, it's not bad at all. It's not bad at all. And if you've got to bring one of them off and put Kenny Clark in the middle there, there are worse options. Because a lot of teams are trying to keep you, you know, playing the run and the pass now. I wonder how much more of that NASCAR package shit

will even see where you're like, all right, let's just get five guys to stand up and run, run, right at the quarterback. My Dallas was doing three, four years ago. I don't know. Does this just seem bigger because it's the Cowboys, too?

Here's just some headlines online. Cowboy CEO, Stephen Jones, sounds off on Blockbuster, Von Miller signing. Blockbuster. Cowboys Von Miller signing is more proof Jerry Jones is turning back the Super Bowl clock. Okay. And then Von Miller told Donovan Ezraubon,

he wants to be his demarcus wear i think donna as a rock who is going to be a real factor turning back the super bowl clock is when of course you did acquire charles haley who was like a current like he was in his prime yeah and then you landed charles haley and it's like wow that's awesome um to be his demarcus where if we were to look at demarcus where and when did he join the Denver Broncos. He joined them after Von Miller was already like an all-pro, not just a pro bowler. And then he joined him at the end of his career,

and that complimented it quite well. Whereas Donovan Azaraku has played one year and had two sacks. So it's almost unfair, but it's certainly not the same thing as DeMarcus. Asiraku's other stats were way bigger than two sacks. Yeah, but I don't want to fight this fight again. Just saying, was he a young, was he Yvonne Miller? There's a difference in the situation, yeah, but that's every comparison you've ever made.

It's a big difference. It's a big, more, very, very big difference to say, I want to be your, what DeMarcus Ware was to me. It's just different. I think he just means you're a guy who has a real chance at being very good. I still have a lot to teach you, and that that's a big part. I mean, you know, Micah would say that he learned a lot even off the field from DeMarcus Ware. It's a good signing. It's a very low risk, really low money, if you look at it in the grand scheme of things.

It is not trading for Miles Garrett. to say we're turning back the Super Bowl clock or we're really going all, you know, block, but those are, that would be Miles Garrett. Or Von Miller 10 years ago. And I realize this is not as sexy to write the headlines about, but

if we are truly going to keep the main thing, the main thing, the Cowboys hired Christian Parker and Clayton Adams. Those are the two weirdest things the most out of, like, I can't believe the Cowboys are doing this thing. Signing Von Miller at 37 is not it's really not that out of character at all.

And when you're talking about Miles Garrett trades, you know, I don't know. All those headlines you just read, the writers are very invested in making this seem like it a bigger deal than it is. And Jerry has those same pressures of he likes for the things he says to be talked about a lot. But two days ago, whenever he was talking to the media, they asked him about what he had said in the opening press conference of like, is there a big trade coming? and he was absolutely enthusiastic to do the dance that, you know, we're doing a lot of talking. He's definitely discussing something with someone about, I don't know if it's Miles Garrett-sized, and I don't know if it'll happen. But he wants to trade future assets for current assets because he's excited about this team.

Yeah, because they do still have some pretty glaring, you know. Number one, you don't really know how good the pass rush is going to be. and then number two, that really would expose a weak secondary if you don't have much of a past rush at all, right? So there are plenty of places they could make a move. A number one corner where every single other guy gets to now move from one to two and two to three would be huge. Yeah.

Does this mean Max Crosby couldn't get done? Yeah, Max Crosby's out for now, right? I would say. but that might have been something Jerry was hinting at. Yeah. Yeah. More confidence from Miles Garrett or just he was talking about his time. Von Miller.

I'm sorry. Von Miller. He was talking about his time when he was at Texas A&M. I was the first guy on the locker room. I was the last got to leave. I controlled the OX Corps, a DJ in the locker room. I told jokes, the toad stories. And it's just my love for my teammates started at Texas A&M.

And then it went over to the Denver Broncos. you just build on that. Shottie just clapping. Yeah. We got to get a joke teller in here, guys. Same guy. Do you want to see? And that's so Aggie.

Imagine being the most Aggie in the Aggie locker room. All right, I have a way to end this, but this is not it. First, I want to see if Blake's, if I can, what's your power level at? And could I see it go down in rapid fashion? Could I see Blake's life force drain from his body? Let me play you a question. Hey, Vaugh, I'm Patrick Walker.com. I'm going to fast forward just a little bit.

Please fast forward. He goes, the season will be here before you know it. Or September 20, wait. September 20th to be here before you know it. Okay, so this is the question. Can you just kind of talk about what you think your emotions are going to be in that moment, how surreal it's going to be walking in the AT&T stadium field, in a Cowboys uniform and then looking across the scene

the Washington Commanders. Yeah, I mean, that's the second game of season. First game is the Giants, right? I mean, I don't. The only teams that really get that emotional response for me is the Denver Broncos. That was a weird question. I'm going to defend Patrick Walker here.

He was maybe going for a home game. I thought he was going for first home game in a Cowboys uniform. And the way the media loves to push the story that I already have in my head onto you. We did it with, who's the Malachi Lawrence, right? Was that the pick that they were like, you stayed because you just were so loyal. He's like, actually, I had some crappy years

and nobody was really offering me anything to leave. That's why I stayed. Oh, okay. So it's clearly your tears will be running on your face after you grew up here, and then you're going to play for the Cowboys, and then you're going to walk onto that stadium. but the fact that it was against the team you played on last year

kind of I'm defending Patrick Walker for I think Von Miller thought he meant the emotions of how will I see that Redskins uniform or Washington uniform and will I be able to hold it together? That's why you can't put it in the question. You don't include that part of the question. You just say when you get out there at AT&T Stadium playing in Dallas, you're at home.

But when you include and you see the Redskins over there, it's confusing. Yeah. And how quickly did you ask that question? No, it wasn't false advertising in the beginning. And then here's one that I think Von Miller is going to, he's going to overtly say this is kind of a bad question. Jeff Gold with Fox 4, Von Weltham. Think about your lifelong fandom, your dad's fandom.

Obviously, you've had a Super Bowl win. two different franchises, but for the lifelong fanning you, what would it mean to help this franchise end the Super Bowlbrown? Well, that's great. I think the question is, you know, kind of answers itself. You know, it's a Dallas Cowboys. Did he want to say dumb? Yeah, I mean, he...

The question is kind of... He's like, yeah, it would mean a lot. Yeah, it'd be pretty great. Okay, and then this really was something I had never heard before from Von Miller. But he made a couple of points to put this in there, and then I want us to discuss it. So he is, well, here it is. I'm a fan of football in general. Like, my dream is to be a GM, front office exec, director of player personnel.

And when you have that dream, you've got to love football, and you've got to love the players that make it happen. Then he wants to be a GM? Yeah. Had you heard that before? No. He said it a couple times. I feel like the things that I've learned over Tom is, you know, how to build great teams. That goes against, I mean, that goes with, you know, mom, you know, mom, want to be, you know, a gym or front office personnel, team president.

It's things that go into building great teams. And for me, that's all I want to do. I just want to help everybody around me be the best possible coach, player, athletic trainer, possible. Okay. That makes me feel a lot more optimistic about the signing because a lot of guys, whenever they're at the end of their career, you ask like, are you going to go into coaching? They're like, do this crap every day?

Yeah. Don't think so. Well, that's probably why he's still got the fight. He's thinking GM and it would be. I once knew Brett Hull pretty well, and I talked to Doug Armstrong, who was the GM, and he had talked to Brett Hull while he was still a player or something, and he was like, what do you want to do?

after and he was like, yeah, I want to be a GM. I want to do trades and stuff. He actually got to be the GM, made a few trades and stuff, but then there was a lot more that went into it. I just think he's talking about it from like a, I want to, I want to focus, I want to be watching film. I want to be, like, the way that, every time he was bringing it up, it was like player evaluation.

But it was about team building. It's been, I know how to build a team. I know. Yeah. So I know how to look at rosters. I can evaluate rosters. and I can make decision, you know, I would, he's basically saying that he would be a good GM. He's be good at everything else.

Let's then fast forward to the very end of the press conference. And he's talking about last year when he was a free agent. For me, last year, I had two offers, right? I had two contract offers from... Can you keep in your mind, by the way? Did I tell you that we just stemmed off of, he wants to be a GM. Okay, sorry.

For me, last year, I had two offers, right? I had two contract offers from two totally different teams. It was the Washington commanders and the Seattle Seahawks. And for me, at that moment in Tom, you know, the best choice I felt for me was to go to the Washington commanders. They had Jaden Daniels. I always been a fan of DQ and, you know, Laramie Thompson and all those guys they had over there. And I made that choice and I made the decision. I wouldn't say that it was a mistake or anything like that.

That was the decision that I made, and then you go through the season, and you look over, and the Seattle Seahawks win it. So this year, I really wanted to be intentional with. I'll let the rest of this play. So why did you choose the Cowboys? Well, he's going to get into it. I don't know. This is a bad bit. Well, no, it's not a bad bit.

He just said, I want to be a GM. And, well, tell us about last year's offseason. You could have lied. You should have lied. But he then said, I looked at these two rosters and said, this is the one that's better. And this will have a, this will be a better season. People just keep under us a bad bit. Because I evaluate players.

If they pulled 28 out of 32 GMs last year, they would have said the Redskins have a better roster. That's why they had the six best odds to win the Super Bowl last year. The Seahawks had like the 18th. This is what I'm saying is that there's not, this is a bad bit. But we've got that. So you said this is big. It's obvious, right? He's just going with the crowd.

And we're just like, am I crazy here? Is this like, if you can. So you want a GM that will just kind of go with the crowd and not really... No, but I'm not going to nail a guy for saying he doesn't know what he's talking about when he's just saying what everyone thought at the time. And maybe it's just because I think we do a... We have a weird job where we just say this stuff and nobody... No, like anybody comes back and is like, what about this?

Even like a week later, but we're like, ha-ha. I haven't gotten anything wrong like that. I mean, yeah, so like last year the commanders had the seventh best odds to win the Super Bowl. You may recall the Seahawks and the Patriots combined had the worst odds of any Super Bowl champions ever or conference champions ever. I could kind of see it though, you know?

I could feel it coming. Yeah. I guess all you all could. Demarcus. So this year I really wanted to be intentional with... He's already talking cowboys right there. You know, the decision that I made and what team that I went to. And it's crazy because I ran in the, I ran in the deck in Vegas probably like a month ago.

You know, he was sitting in the high-limbing gambling gambling. I just sat down with. Hold on. I think he says he's in the high. Yeah, he was sitting in the high-limber and gambling gambling. I just sat down with Dak and we just started gambling together and talking. And I was like, hey, man, y'all, it's about time, Dak. It's about time, you know, you've got to break through one of these teams.

You've got to break through one of these years. I think this year you'll be able to do it. Like, you got everybody to do it. And that was, I had, I didn't have. have any inkling on, you know, being a Dallas cowboy. They just happened naturally. And then the Cowboys reached out. And I was just like, bro, this is a sign.

Like, this is a sign for me. And, you know, we worked on it. Talked to some other teams. But ultimately, you know, my love for the Dallas Cowboys, my chicken farm is here. My family's here. Just by being a Dallas Cowboy and wearing that start, it was beneficial to me and my family. And that's what ultimately made the decision for me. He's trying to play by his chicken farm.

Okay. So that explains another thing. I didn't play the audio, but... Wait, real quick. Add this to Jake's list of why Dack is going to just ball out this year. No doubt. This time last year he was running out with his kids and his fiancé trying to play in a wedding. Dude, perfect.

This year he's sitting at high-limit tables gambling in Vegas? Hell yeah. I do think it would be the terrible part of Dax life is that every time you're running into an NFL player, they're saying... So I noticed you don't have any playoff success. This is your year. I bet this will be great. I would not want to talk about it.

constantly, how little playoff success I'd have. It's not just the media. The players are actually coming up to you going, hey, man, it's time for you to break through, dude. And that was a big sign. How long are you going to play? I bet he ran into half the NFL that weekend. It's an off-season weekend in Vegas, but this was the big sign.

Yeah. No, he was talking about negotiating with Hunter Lipke for the number, and he promised him free chicken. Was it for light? Even if it doesn't work out, that's just how it's supposed to be. I'm not going to get caught up in the number, but I did make some offers to them already that he can't. I feel like he can't really come off of those.

I think a lifetime supply of chicken, I'd do it. Nice. That'd be a great quill to have. A lifetime supply of chicken. What does that mean? Is this like one of those contests where you get just one meal a week? And they're like, oh, no, you get free chicken for a year. Unlimited chicken.

Or is it? There's no way you see the end of the. that tunnel four years from now, Hunter Lipke? Hey, Vaughn, can I get my shipment? No, I bet you they said, I bet you guys a company, and I bet you there are people that have already signed up and they do this for. You're a half cow buyer. Yeah. But why, if you're 37 years old, though, he had to wear different numbers at his other stops. Why is it here that all of a sudden is Hunter Lipke like, wait, why now? He went to Buffalo. He didn't get them to change the number. Again, I think this is bad GMing.

by Vaughn Miller, why doesn't he wait for two weeks until Lipke gets cut, and then he can have the number for free? Why do you try to make Jake mad? I don't try to make him mad. So he won't wear 58 because he won't wear anything he wore with the Broncos. Is that the deal? Yeah. Because it's really weird he has a number he cares so deeply about

and it's not the one that'll be retired by a team. Yeah, but I guess, you know what, I don't know. Did he wear, he wore 40 at A&M? No, he wore it. was a little number at A&M, wasn't he? Okay. I was trying to remember his A&M years. Oh, 40.

40. Yeah. 58 Broncos. There you go. He wanted 12, but they wouldn't let him have it. Let's do some viewer mail. Or do we have, oh, we have other sports. Do you want to do that after?

What's our, what are we doing? Why don't we take a quick break? Now? Well, we're an hour and 15 in. We usually break at 50. So do you want to start another topic? At seven minutes or do you want to break? Why is he so tense?

I'm just asking. You took the Lipki shots. It's building up tension. But he wasn't listening. I don't think he registered that. Yeah, you're right. It's your boy, computer. Three Six Mafia Hollywood, you remember me?

MTV. Oh, you is, man. What's up, man? Big affair. You all right? Yeah, just cool. I'm not here working for the ticket. I just want to interview you right quick.

What's up? No much? Yeah, how can't go on today? I was going pretty good, man. Just out here, Maxine him. Getting the done, man. chilling. Football season. I already know. I already know.

I'm so glad to have you down here with us, well, I've been, I've been putting to get you down here and it happened. I was so excited. Oh, man, I'm happy to be here, man. Me and the Cowboy Nation, we all love you. Oh, yeah. We'll support you 100%. That's what it do, man.

121% all day, every day. That's what it is. So how has to been going. How did you transition? We're going pretty good. For the most part, man, you know, coming from Tennessee and Atlanta. in Atlanta. I love it. I don't see myself in the way else. Oh, no. That's home, yeah. Yeah.

Get like a second and third contract. You hit it, Jerry, we got ready to do another contract. I don't lock him in. Lock me in. Lock him in. Do another piece of commercial. What the rest of the field? They was out here last week. Dan, Atlanta, doing a concert tonight.

Yeah. And then they'll be back to L.A. Friday. And we got a part of the play ball match on Saturday tonight. y'all keep it in the road, all right, nice to me, see you again. Yep. We'll stay in touch, though. Take it easy.

Okay. You're listening to the Dumb Zone. Did they stay in touch? We can find out. I bet that wasn't the last time they talked. So, unfortunately, Jake, we're going to have to go back to DFW. And when we get back, we have a week of stuff next Tuesday. See you next Tuesday.

at Conne Roso at the Star and Frisco because we don't want to go too far away from the Cowboys. Right. So we'll go back there. And then next Thursday we're going to be at a half-priced books. $4 book for just two bucks.

Let's see. $10. The one, which half-priced books, Jake? Or Blake. The one off Northwest Highway in 75? The big one? Yeah, the flagship. Flagship.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the one I used to live by. Capital of the World. Anyway, so we'll be there with a guy who has been on our show before. His name is M.F. Hamlin. Ah, of the Bills. That is his...

It's Ken Hamlin. Demar Hamlin. Anyway, he's an author. Remember the book Skinny Dipping at Low Tide? I do. Kind of about the whole... GameStop thing. Yeah.

He's a guy that he actually used to work at GameStop. Anyway, he's got a book signing. He'll be there Thursday. Excuse me, next Tuesday with us. Thursday. I'm sorry. Next Thursday. August 27.

I don't know what I'm doing. See, AI, T.C., you're an idiot. If you think AI can come close to this. Next Thursday, we will be at the Half Price Books on Northwest Highway. next Tuesday, we'll be at the Star in Frisco, at the Cane Roso. And then, yeah, that's all we have to promote right now. We do also, though, have to do a little viewer mail. Beep.

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Yeah. In the middle of a flag game. Yeah. It happens to me. I'm saying you're the kind of guy that you'll go potty anywhere. I have a quick update on the earth. What? What does that mean?

So. The way it's rotating? Yeah. And how fast we can fly over it? Evans west to east. Okay, we get this guy. No, but... Earth guy.

I did look it up as far as why flights feel different. West? Okay. The main difference here is just the wind. The jet stream. In mid-latitudes, high-altitude winds usually blow west to east, so flights from California to New York are often faster than New York to California. Eastbound gets tailwind, westbound flights get headwind.

north-south flights feel different because lines of longitude converge towards the pole and you're not flying over like a stationary earth so when you look at the globe it starts to make sense see i was thinking planes might just actually they don't fly they just hover and then they wait for the earth to rotate underneath it yeah that's how we have in china's air right it we just waited long enough It floats. But I guess when they're planning routes, I mean, obviously they factor this in.

Like the route is chosen by circle geometry, not by straight direction. So in any case, I found it interesting. Got one on Ennis Cantner. Canter. I can't tell if it's a bit now. Because I've said something and now... Right, then it can turn into a bit. But off-air he was doing it.

But sometimes... Oh, I forgot to ask Pac-Man about Enis Cantner. Yeah, well, again, try to replicate that AI. And you're going to need to know that name, buddy. Ennis Cantor? He's probably the one-in-one. Why? You've told us how he couldn't even be a six-man of the year. I can't wait.

He says, gentlemen, I'm going to side with Jake on this one. Competitive women get nasty, and with the S, the D. W deals with against C.C., Cantor is going to get his balls, slash, bruised, and battered game after game. That's a great point. And how physical will Cantor be able to be? No way he could retaliate

back or look macho chest bumping with Griner. Women will milk fowls, but he will look like a little bitch going to the ground taking a charge. You can't take a charge. Do the teammates even pass to him? He says, not to mention the insanity he will endure when riding the team bus to the stadium

and having to deal with constant missed exits and stopping to ask for directions. Yep, right. That's solid. His teammate, like, he forgets to get a breakfast bar when he goes down to the lobby for one of them and they won't pass to him for the next two games. They're just freezing him out.

He's not ready for this. He's entered a world that could be very unforgiving. I love the foul aspect of it, of the league just being, like, earned it. Yeah. Yeah, that's from someone who claims to be DF number 1650. That's a good email. Got an email, too.

I'm not playing the video or anything, but it's more to ask why. Are you doing this? It's a guy that got a cameo. You've seen people who will get cameos to draw my draft order for our fantasy league. Yeah, I don't love that. We had a really good cameo on my flag football team, though, that was football adjacent.

Oh, from... We got Gene Sterator to review a play that was ruled incomplete in a tournament. Yes, that's great. We had video of it. That's awesome. And he went through and was like, you could see Cam completing the catch to the ground here. It was awesome. That's like an interesting spin on it.

I think there's something you can do with these. But I don't know, just pick my fantasy order and read it is, I don't know. I suppose if you're a cowboy fan, you might like this one. but it's Brad Sham is on Camio now for 50 bucks. 50? It feels low. Way low. It feels high.

What? I'm not doing that for 50 bucks, dude. He makes a lot more money than I do. That's what I mean. That's why it feels low for the tax bracket I think Brad Sham is in. Yeah, but you could probably get some pretty good people for 50 bucks. Yeah, let's see. Troyes was like a thousand.

Right. Troy was like, I don't want to do this, but. I'll price it to where... If you're going to do this, I'll do it. Yeah. So anyway. I have a couple of some tropes here from Blake 2. Oh, and he...

Okay, so the guy with... Oh, yeah. Brad Sham signs off with... Not sure if anyone feels hyped about the video, but it was cool to have Sham read off our names. He says, more Clayton food reviews. Want to give Clayton a little wind in his sales after Brandon. More establishing the run.

And if Jake can't have just one... Did rehab really work? That's from Brandes. It's a great point, man. I mean, people love to say like, oh, yeah, I beat it. It's like, I don't know. And most people don't say that. Most people are like, no, we're in this battle.

Blake 2 got me a good email. Got a couple movie tropes. Alcoholic wakes up with beer bottles on the nightstand next to him. Immediately grabs one drinks the leftover room temperature backwash. It's all this in Kingpan and. the flight with Denzel. I'm not saying there aren't alcoholics that wake up and drink, but I guarantee you they have cold,

fresh ones in the fridge. I think we saw this. Did Mel Gibson do this in like one of the lethal weapons? A hundred percent. Just bourbon bottle, right to it. When is the last time you saw someone go into the bank for a loan in a movie and get approved? They're always in some grand downtown bank

in a massive lobby. My bank is in a strip center next to Eatsies. That is a very movie. thing. Every police department has a hostage negotiator. You're telling me that if someone takes a bank hostage and a hern, they are saying wait until the negotiator

gets here. Boy, what a job that would be. Here's a couple playground talk ones that hit with me. If you accidentally eat the silica or silicon packet and beef jerky, it'll kill you. I was definitely afraid of those little packets. Why do they put them in food?

I know why they put them in food, but yes. It seems like if it could also kill me. Keep the moisture out. It must not be able to kill you, right? Or else you have read about that. Somebody's eating one of those. Why? Here's one for...

Just accidentally. It's in the food packet. You're eating stuff in the food packet. It's in a bag. You're dumping that in your mouth and you're continuing to chew? A lot of people in the world. No. This one's specifically, I think, for T.C.

They deserve to you. It's Darwin. Sure. They deserve whatever happens after that. For T.C. and Clayton. childhood rumors. The kid with glasses from Wonder Years is Marilyn Manson.

We don't have Matt remembers. Yes, I heard that. Before we could like really hook things on. D.C. just showed me a Photoshop photo of a Jacklinks bag that says, oops, all moisture packets. And it's just full of fun. And then an idea for the Dumbzone Hotel Suite. Clocks can only be in Central.

time and you have to bring your own pillows and comforter. That's awesome. And towel. I did bring my towel. I got a couple playground things too. But he wants to specify this is more of just things our parents lied to us about. Yeah. Crossing your eyes for too long will make them permanently crossed.

I'm still kind of worried about doing that. It's either that or the funny faces. It'll stick like that. Yep. So is that just if this in normal. It annoys me as an adult or as a parent. So I'm going to make something up to make you... But I think will make you stop doing it.

But the funny part is it's uniform. Like every parent came up with the same lie. Oh, it'll stick like that. Right. Where your eyes will get... Yeah. Like, and again, if that was true, wouldn't one out of every, like, ten of your friends have permanent...

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Look at them. One out of ten friends is also blind. Looking for guys with hair on their palms. Yeah. Oh, you were one of the ones that wouldn't stop, huh?

And then he says, if you played under the clothes racket at department stores, they would fall on you and make you go blind. I think his mom might have been on her own on that one. Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah, I never heard that. Movie trope, this from Jacob, Who in the World Has the Luxury of a Nice Long Breakfast with Eggs, Bacon, and Pancakes before school? I always thought that, too.

Yeah. I got time for maybe a chocolate milk and then I'm out the door. But these people are having gourmet breakfast. I like the movie trope when that gourmet breakfast is all set up. Grab a piece of toast. I'm on my way. Yeah, the one who comes down, like, no time. How about fuck you?

I made this entire breakfast. Oh, yeah. You know how long that would take? It was cut fruit. Yeah. If you want the one piece of toast? I don't think so. By the way, last night.

And there's no dirty dishes. Like, movie cooking is, you know. Glorious. Yeah, there's nothing there to clean up. There isn't stuff that had spilled on the stove. And, oh. It's, you know what, it's too hot, though, to clean it now, so I'm going to leave it there for like an hour.

You're one of those, huh? This one I thought it would be a bigger deal when we were kids from Adrian Brass Knuckles. Kind of thought that would be a... What about Switchblade? Switchblade, I had kind of already become a joke by the time I was in school. Did you have a guy that had a comb switchblade?

Yeah, but it was like a bit by that point. Yeah. But the brass knuckles were a real worry. Dude, last night, I can't really see it on camera, so it worked out okay. But I slept in a bed last night for the first time at the house. And it's two twin beds in a room, T.C. and Jake. I've been sleeping on the couch. But last night I'm like, this is my eight, nine hour night.

The bed is all the way up against the window. And when I set up at a bed at like two, three o'clock this morning just woke up maybe to go to the bathroom, I nailed the corner, like the front of my forehead in the corner, on the crown molding underneath the window. Yeah, window still? I don't know if they normally don't have a bed there maybe, but that very nearly took me. I was bleeding. It was the middle of the night. Did you wake up, T.C.

He didn't wake up. And asked for relief. Medical assistance. Oh. No. It's like, damn, dude. Only me. by the way T.C. sleeping.

Go ahead. They're on the headset for a second. I meant to bring this up the other day because you guys were telling me that when T.C. did arrive at whatever, 12.20 to take off for California.

12. Midnight 20. And that they said within like five or 10 minutes you're asleep. Like you're able to sleep on the road, uncomfortable conditions. You can make yourself. sleep, right? Yeah, I mean, it was regular time to go to bed, you know, like we were leaving it a time

I would normally go to sleep. So the other day, we get back from our show, so it's like, what, Dallas time 4, 430 or something. And Blake is playing video games. He's playing Madden or something. Oh, okay. All right. And T.C.'s on the couch.

And do you know what I'm going to say, Blake? Yeah. He was as dead as, like, snoring, like deep sleep. People are in the kitchen doing stuff. It's as bright as you could ever. There was no sleep mask on him. Blake's playing mad. I was trying hard not to do this.

I had the TV up. TV's up. And, yes, like I said, a bare hibernating type sleep from TC. And I was, like, just amazed. And then about an hour later, I think. is when people started stirring to go eat something, and he just got up. There he was.

Ready to roll. Just a little cat nap, Tom Catnap. But right in the middle of the... Was I in the bed? You were doing a meeting. Okay. So I didn't want to snore in your meeting, and I was about to pass out,

so I selected the couch. I'm just in awe of your ability to hard sleep in front of, or just in the middle of chaos, it seems like. I've now seen T.C. sleep the better part of 20 hours three different times, and I'm about to see. a fourth. Just whatever we do, anytime you travel at all, the closest thing that exists to time travel in the world is if you can sleep during the travel time.

Like most prominently flights. Boy, I wanted to sleep so bad sitting in first class, but I kept myself awake. Just to soak it in. I wanted to enjoy the time. Yeah. You're right, though. I would say I would enjoy it by being able to sleep better because it's first class. As a kid, I thought Cleveland to Pittsburgh was forever.

It's two and a half hours. When you live in Texas, you realize everything else. is closer than if you Texas. And yes, I would fall asleep within five minutes of getting in the car and then wake up in front of my uncle's house in Pennsylvania, and I was like, wow, time travel. It's so good. You guys should try to be an alcoholic.

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I think I was trying to explain to them what life is like if you've never been able to hear. My six-year-old daughter asked me, how do deaf people think? My eyes immediately turned into pinwheels, and my brain went into screensaver mode. Because how do they think? Do people who were born deaf think in sign language? Like, is their internal monologue,

do they see somebody signing in their head? They can obviously read so they know written words, but if you've never heard a word spoken, what does that word feel like in your brain? Like it's possible that it's all so hardwired in, that the speech is happening even if you don't hear it, but there's a lot of other possibilities too. Boy, I'd love to know.

Because, yes, you're seeing the word deaf, right? You know there's a hard deal. and there's a, but you don't really pronounce the A, right? In Spanish, you would look at that and say, day off. And so in your head, you're probably pronouncing each one of those letters, but you've never heard them. Are you pronouncing at all? Like, yes, what are, is it only, how do you think?

Like, whatever we are reading, we are thinking about how it's pronounced, but, like, you don't have to. you could just see it as like, you know. Like they say when, this guy, if you're born deaf, you never actually heard the word the. So when you read it, do you associate it with a sign? Are you reading that and saying, oh, it's when you do this? Or do they have some sort of made-up sound replacement?

Does each deaf person have their own internal, uninterpreted language that only they can speak? I haven't stopped thinking about this six-year-old's question for a week now. I wonder what percentage of people are deaf the whole time. I bet it's pretty low. Yeah. Okay, go ahead. Just, I don't know the answer to that,

but Josh has always shocked me by saying it's like 4% of people that are blind. So of the people who are blind, only 4% are what you would think of early if you're me. Born blind, yeah. Well, not born blind, but just like nothing. Okay. Like 96% of blind people can see at least light in shapes. Okay.

So that's, if you, that's track somewhat maps on to deaf people. Like they probably are getting sick. something. But some of them don't. If your first language is ASL, your internal monologue may not be a narrator talking. It may be closer to a private mental version of signing. Visual embodied grammatical fast. Not lesser, just a different format.

But how do they know? Well, I mean, you could talk to someone. If a deaf person is trying to explain to you. You would only know if it was a deaf person who then was gifted with this you're able to hear. Right. Didn't they could then tell you, hey, what was it like? Didn't you ask Dirk if he thought in German? Yeah, that happens.

And he does? That was my, like, you probably did this in Mexico, but. There's a step. I remember dreaming in Spanish in Spain. Oh, wow. Which was trippy. That was like the point at which, because of my whole day was in it, and I was dreaming a lot because you couldn't get weed.

So I was like really flooded with. But there is a step when you don't have to sit and translate it anymore. Yeah. I don't think I ever got there. Well, I would imagine you default to whatever you were first introduced to. Because as kids were introduced with verbal communication, what our parents are telling us. And that's what our consciousness is based off of. So if they began with reading, I'd imagine they're seeing words.

There will be no deaf people by the time I die. Wow. Gravery. Is that your personal pledge? You're going to start working on it, or? I'm doing what I can. He's going to kill all the deaf people. I've purchased a plot of land.

I swear to God. If it's the last thing I do, I will eradicate. I got a long email. I got a couple of these, and I will say that it modified my behavior. I made sure that we don't have a Lucy spot today, but I made sure I had Lucy's on the plane on the way out here. Because I told you guys that I saw a clip of Anthony Jezzelnick talking about vaping on an air.

airplane and getting caught, and it was very scary. Now, he was vaping weed on the plane and the bathroom, which I think is a different level. But Matt hit me up and said a few years ago, my wife and I were flying back from Portugal. Flying over the ocean, I go to the bathroom to get my fix. Like you, I'm a pretty sneaky vapor. I don't take any pride in blowing clouds. Took a few normal rips. As I was finishing up, I hear the unmistakable blaring of the smoke detector.

I zip up, smash my way out of the bathroom. The entire plane was overcome with the fear that we were going down. To say that the blaring caused quite the stir on a sleepy flight would be an understatement. Before I've even exited the bathroom, there's a male flight attendant running down the aisle to confront me. He asked if I was smoking in there. I told him, no, I've got no idea why that smoke detector is going off. I was finishing up and it scared me.

He hurries in the bathroom, digging through the trash can, as he's rummaging, I sheepishly make my way back to my seat, where my wife's calm face lets me know, she knows exactly what just happened and the rest of the plane thinks were going down. I sit in my seat, pull my hood up, and act like I'm asleep. I saw the flight attendant come out of the bathroom looking for the delinquent, but I maintained a low profile. In the end, nothing besides panic. Oh.

But I thought I'd let you know that the nicotine vague can trigger the plane's smoke detector and that it goes off throughout the whole plane. And, you know, the overnight flight, dude, it's dark. Everyone in there's asleep. Wow. You're over the ocean. Babies, kids that have been put down and then you're the full flight smoke. And we're just going with the honor system too.

Hey, were you smoking? Nope. Yeah, man. I was thinking about it. I got it out in the bathroom on the flight out here. Oh, no. We can wait. We have the Lucy's.

We could wait. Were you around for a... New soft Jake. Yeah. Justin telling his similar story in Washington? No. He, whatever he was a young man, like, did a lot of, like, international travel, like, backpacking, just wanting to see the world. And so I think it was a flight from India to China, something like that.

But just heard in the full Indian accent, an Indian guy being like, oh, I'm going to smoke on this plane. And they absolutely did. Like, they established a system where, like, there was enough guys on the plane that were, like, we need to smoke on the plane. So they would have, like, the aisles, like, full of dudes blocking the flight attendants as they're, like, passing around a cigarette and getting puffs on it. And just the entire flight could just smell people smoking on the plane.

They can't stop all of us. That's right. I'm out of email. How about you guys? I am, I think, out of email, Dan, because I have some great OJ audio and emails, but the great debate is when do we unleash juice on the world? Matt Grimm watched it last night. It was a big talking point with us. It's incredible, isn't it?

Incredible. Yeah. So we'll hold that for when we do that. But speaking of Matt Grimm, I do want to talk about what's happening with, well, really with the entire. sports world because I didn't know who Mark Walters was like three weeks ago. Okay, when we do this, let's just remind everybody, just our camp sponsors. Plum Quick. Plum Quick is our plumber.

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is one of our camp sponsors. I'm going to grab that and I'll be right back. Okay. And then also did he cover Parlay Collective? Parley Collective.com, our marketing agency. So there is a lot. happening in the world of sports and finance. The Lakers, we found out, were potentially being sold

the Mark Walters' share of the Lakers, which he purchased for $10 billion last year. So he's selling it for a $2 billion profit in one year, which owning a sports franchise obviously is one thing, but as some of these articles have pointed out, like the market has grown more than that in the one year that he's owned it. So it's not like a big, bank robbery for him. He's getting basically market return. But then the question becomes, why does he need this money so fast? Why is he doing this? And people started looking into it, right? Now, what's happening with the bus family thing is its own situation. And I think we could talk about that some, but Mark Walters also owns the Dodgers. The Dodgers are largely

thought to be the reason why MLB is headed for a work stoppage is, boy, these guys, are just, they've broken the game. Look at how much money they're spending. Why can't everyone else do this? So one way or another, you're mad about the Dodgers. And it's starting to look like the Dodgers payroll that got everyone so upset might have, in one way or another, been funded by money that Mark Walter shouldn't really have had access to because he runs an – part of what he does is insurance.

and Matt Grimm is certainly out here today, a financial expert. And so, you know, I'm aware of the concept of insurance. They take your money. We're pulling risk. Well, you pay the premiums. They'll pay for whatever, whenever it's time to pay out. I guess I wasn't really fully internalizing that they also invest that money. They invest their own portfolios of that, the money you give them.

But that since they are an internalizing. insurance agency, and they need to be able to produce liquid pretty quickly if needed, they're supposed to invest pretty conservatively. Correct. And he was not. He was not. And also he was investing from his own company to another company of his at zero percent interest. Okay. So there's a conflict of interest issue there.

There's a ratio issue, meaning that company that he lent money. was investing those assets and the ratio was borrowed money versus invested assets. It was at 40%. Originally reported under 10%. Federal government likes to see 10% or less. So recently disclosed at 40%, which now they're thrown around the word Ponzi scheme. And there's also a disclosure issue or non-disclosure issue, meaning the people paying the insurance premiums were not aware of what was happening with the money. Therefore, it's not necessarily as liquid as it should be.

And the crazy thing about this is, so they revised these numbers recently after they get some heat, but he only bought the Lakers a year ago. He had already had Mark Walters, the head of Guggenheim, which is this massive firm, he had already had his phone and laptop seized on the tarmac in Chicago, which is probably on the list of things you don't want, but it sounds pretty cool. And that doesn't necessarily mean that there's guilt, but he was already being investigated when Adam Silver approved his purchase of the Lakers.

So the NBA doesn't look great here because if this dude is coming up with this cash and he's being investigated, I think you probably owe the due diligence of being like, we're going to wait until that's over. We're going to wait to see if where your money coming from is legit or not before we approve this sale. So I don't know that he has to sell the Dodgers,

but it's starting to look like he might have to because he needs to come up with something like another $20 billion by the end of the year. Yeah. For what? Because he's so over-leveraged that I think they have to get to the balance. He's at $20 billion invested off of a $40 billion, $20 billion borrowed against $48 billion invested.

So he needs to come up with that $15 billion to get that ratio down to 10%. Or get the bottom line, the invested dollars, up to $198 billion. Yeah, and I think they, so they're trying some creative ways to, like, grow the company quickly. So the NBA thing is probably just, I had heard that he was like one of the lead guys trying to get the Vegas. expansion franchise. And then that wasn't a guarantee to him. And that's kind of why this went in for the Lakers instead. I think that was Iger and Cushner.

Oh, that's the guys. Iger and Cushner. They were also trying to buy soccer. That was a story we had a couple weeks ago. That Thrive Capital, they were trying to put money together to buy FIFA. Okay. And that didn't work out. So they're just buzzards.

You know, these are very valuable assets. The Dodgers part that I found really interesting, that apparently Mark Walters is so hard for cash that he went to Charter Communications and looked for basically a buyout. He was saying, like, hey, you know, you can pay me right now and be out of this. Like, they owe him, Charter owes the Dodgers a lot of money, like billions, billions and billions. But Walters came to them and was like, hey, let's say you owe us $50 billion for our rights. I'll take $20.

Yeah. And they were like, no. We don't want to pay a termination fee. They're not even in great shape. So is, and if you address this in a couple of minutes, I was gone. But is any of this, Shohei pushing his money forward? You know, a lot of deferred money. they're signing a lot of these people with.

Like, does this have any, is there any relation to it? Well, that's why they're doing it. That's part of the reason that you do have to apparently put that money in escrow, like it's 60 cents on the dollar, and there's some terms to it. So it's not like it's just nowhere, but that is part of the reason that they've been doing it, yes. And I don't know that the Dodgers gets sold, but it looks like they probably will be. and

because this guy needs cash he needs cash he needs cash badly and that was like you know I was for example why would like Charter not give him the money

and it's like well because they know he needs it why give him why do it now if he's that up for cash badly they can wait negotiate later how does this affect Luca

I'm not okay this is a silly thing to say because Nico is the reason that that happened but the timing on all of this like Lucas signed his extension after that sale went through. And I'm positive that if the owner, if it was known that the guy that's about to buy the team is under federal investigation for something that people are saying is akin to a Ponzi scheme, he would have waited.

He would have waited and said, let this, let's let this settle out, figure out what's going on here. I wonder. Or does he just say, well, whatever, whoever ends up. owning this team. It's not like I'm not going to get this money. I've just signed a contract. The NBA will make sure he gets the money. Yeah, but I feel like the bus has sold him

and Polinka sold him on some level of basketball vision. So is this a common thing that they're just doing to a higher degree? As far as what Walters and his group is doing? I've heard the term infinite banking. This is a used to be a common thing. There's a lot of people that got busted for it. A lot of people have gone to prison, federal prison for a very long time. If you want to contrast that with someone who's doing it right,

Berkshire Hathaway, they do it right. They have their original first acquisition was GEICO insurance. They take those premiums, they invest them, but it goes in the portfolio of Berkshire Hathaway. Therefore, it's invested in very conservative things. you know, U.S. Treasury bonds, cash, cash equivalents, and the blue chip stocks that Warren Buffett is known for purchasing. So that's all on the up and up. And these other guys that, they just get out of control. They roll the dice big, not conservative, and a lot of these things blow up

in their face. Yeah, and I guess I'm so small-minded, you know, you don't even really think about, okay this guy owns an insurance company and a private equity firm he's loaning money back and forth god there's probably no taxes these are it's zero interest loans which is a you know kind of a shady thing to do yeah so um and because he's doing this doesn't mean something bad is going to happen but bad things have happened that look just like this in the past he may be in trouble he may be in real trouble and we i was wondering as i was at the dodgers game on Sunday. There's a huge sign out in the outfield that says,

Guggenheim. I was like, I don't even really know what that is. We were asking about, is it oil? What is it? And apparently it's just his company that moves money around and might be bilking people out of their premiums. He may be going to jail.

I would not have said that pre-Burdy Madoff and pre-talking to Matt, but guys like this, they go to jail. You know, this is not like, I don't know, Martha Stewart or something where she's also a celebrity and she gets a sweetheart deal. These people go to jail like the guy on White Lotus all the time. They usually don't own the Lakers, but it happens. And the crazy thing is the guys with this kind of money, they don't need to do this stuff.

That's the crazy thing. He's risking federal prison for no good reason. Well, the reason is he's the billionaire. What is it, Trace Con? Thomas? Yeah, you got to stay in the trace commas. Yeah. It just feels like all of... Fulmer's got more money. I got to do stuff to get more money than him.

Even without understanding all the financial instruments, it feels like it's, hey, this whole thing has been about the Dodgers and how are they doing this and how this changes the competitive balance. And now we have basically proof that they were doing it fraudulently. And like I saw someone say with the Abe Lincoln meme where he's standing up when you want to say something unpopular, it was like these two Dodgers World Series reek of far more competitive imbalanced than what the Astros were doing. Like this helped them win more than the trash can banging did.

I mean, I don't know. It's obviously two very different buckets. So who uses this to their revenge, the owners? You'd have to think so. Because the players don't, right? Well, they'd have to say, yeah, actually, though, the Mets have as much money to spend, and they're not, because the Mets are right up there too, right? Yeah, that's a funny angle of this. I think Walter went to Cohen.

Mark Walter went to Steve Cohen's capital at one point. It was like, you want to help me out? And they were like, uh-uh. I was listening to some podcast this morning with some NBA guys, and they were like, yeah, all the finance bros we know have been saying for a while, this guy doesn't have this kind of money. So it's been somewhat of a thing in their circle. And MLB probably is like, you know, we don't really care. But that is... This is what we do anyways, but this does help us.

I was going to say, though, that's the interesting part of this story to me, because I don't care what rich guy goes to jail or who owns... Oh, fuck, I do. Certain teams. You do? Do I like when rich people who... No, I'm just saying which one or who? There's crooks out there.

and yeah. Whatever, I don't really care, but how this affects this big story that's coming our way in December, I am very interested in that because I'm very interested in how the Major League Baseball Players Union has been able to be the most powerful union all these years.

I'm interested in every time they do media around these negotiations, whatever league it is, I'm interested in, how we can all get swayed onto, I don't know, the owner's got some good points here, you know. I mean, geez, they're, you know, once guys are making 40 million a year, but you never hear that the owners actually, actually they made a billion, valuation or whatever it might have been, but still, like, I still get sucked in by all of it.

Yeah, you shouldn't. Because the story is like what we're talking about right now, made a billion, who knows? I don't even know how this works. Now I realize if you own a sports franchise, you're just borrowing. against it, lending it money, but writing, like investing the money people are getting, like, you don't ever actually have to use money to do anything. Ever. And if you're doing it that way, you're not paying taxes on it.

It's called leverage. Yeah. And the players don't. Why do we get in on that? Well, we got a business owner. The same thing happened. I didn't refresh myself on the details, but the same thing happened in the early 90s when Jerry Bus sold the L.A. Kings. A guy named Bruce McNaul, I believe. Yeah.

And he brought Gretzky to L.A. Yeah. And he got in trouble for a similar thing and had to sell the Kings. And I don't know if he went to prison or not, but he did some shady stuff as well. Flags fly forever, though. He gets Gretzky, you get two World Series? Yeah. Does anybody really?

Yeah, the fans aren't upset. No, this one is just unique because it's running up against the lockout. Yeah. That's why this is a big deal, is because it has implications for the financial model of the least. And the players will be like, well, whatever. I mean, it doesn't matter. You just run it like a business. And that's their big argument, right?

It's whatever. I thought it was America. Are you capitalists or not? We have a business. You hire people to run the business. If this guy wants to bid against your business to get the better player, that's what it's all about, America. You know?

Yeah. And yeah, if certain teams go out of business, well, then that's the way it is. certain guys get cut. You know, that's what their argument is. It feels like... Baseball's argument is we want even the crappiest owners who don't try to win to also make money.

Right. That's their argument. And they vote to protect each other. Yeah. All the rules that they input or that they put in, they will complain about and then behind closed doors congratulate each other that we're not allowed to, bid that high.

You know, they're protecting themselves against themselves. Let me tell you, there's not a moment ever where a man walks up to Mark Walters like Pac-Man did to Jerry yesterday, and they bought, even though Jerry's got billions of dollars, like, there is a difference.

We had good ones, now we have bad ones. I can't stress that. Show-Hae, Mike, just because of his deal. That's true. That's true, although Shohay may be enacting his, Keyman Clause. Oh, did we talk about that on the year? Yeah.

Okay, the key man clause. Yeah, it's a big deal. It's a big deal. Dan, I'm sleeping on a couch while I'm out here, and I'm doing that just so that I can fully appreciate my mattress from Brooklyn Bedding. What kind did you get? Do you know?

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The outstanding matters between the two organizations are resolved. We will be here until 2030, 2031, at which point the Star. go to Plano, the Dallas, the Mavs go to North Dallas. But. Or Vegas. It's daylight. I mean, I wouldn't say Vegas, but I'd say the range of possibilities now being beyond just the stars are going to point O and the Mavs are going to. We don't know where the, I thought the Mavs are going to Valley View Mall.

That's North Dallas, right? Well, what did you say? I said stars going to Plano, Mavs to North Dallas. I'm saying, but there may be if they're staying for another four years. years here there are possibilities. To what? I don't know. Maybe one of them stays there. Maybe one of them moves to Irving.

Maybe one of them. Where's sports mayor? Why is he not here for this? This is his element. He loves sports. He's not afraid to say it. Really, really hard. Many politicians want to shy away from that label.

He failed his arrowhead test. He made some big claims. And then they were like, all right, big boy, what do you got? We got a lease up. We got two teams pissed off. We got a duck. What do you got? He's disappeared.

He's like, I might. You would think this is where he rides in. Like, Sports Mayor, here I am. I'm going to, hey, we're getting in this room. We're not leaving until this thing is solved. Well, he said he was bringing. That's what old Teddy Roosevelt would have done. He tried to get the Chiefs to Dallas.

Big stick. Chargers. And when he couldn't. Maybe Chiefs, too. He disappeared. Yeah, he's going to get another NFL team. Yeah, we'll put him over here. Then he ends up with.

What's on his ledger is the wings, and they're not even actually in Dallas yet. Hey, they will be tomorrow night. What, AAC? Caitlin, baby. Got the Feeve? Flying back early to catch it? I'll go back. I'll take a red eye.

Flying back. Oh, I have news about the Brandon Aubrey show tomorrow. Okay. He will be here between California. California time, 10 a.m. and noon. See, he'll talk like that for him. We would ask you to be like, oh. He'll be there with his other.

He'll be there with his two best friends in the world. That's glorious. Bangor and Trent. He and me or his two best friends. I think that this would be a hard part about being a cop. Down in the Houston area, this is in Porter, Montgomery County. There was a robbery at Walmart. Montgomery Bears.

Hey, that's a good pool. I wouldn't have thought that you had that. There was a robbery at Walmart. The lost prevention people are chasing the guy out of the store. Why? I was always told that's a no-no. But you've done that before, right? Not really.

I saw it happening and kind of pussed out when I worked at a grocery store. But I guess at this Walmart, they chased the guy out. It's not called pushing out. That's called logic. You're going to go put yourself in harm's way when you're the stock boy at the grocery store? Not from my grocery store. You're not. Maybe put you in a better position for a promotion next time.

Okay. Perhaps, but you're probably right. You want to manage dirty tom-thumb? Did Jerry ever chase someone? Oh, with his little bowtie? Out of the... He worked at his dad's store, right? Yeah.

How great would that be? He dressed me up with little bow tie. A little bow tie. He'd greet people. Could you imagine? that? I don't know, because in my head, eight-year-old Jerry looks just like a small 80-year-old Jerry, so it's hard to imagine him. This guy's robbing a Walmart. That's a TV show thing, right? You got an old character

rather than find a younger person, you just put them in, like, younger clothing. Yeah, you have limited options. Not everybody can do boyhood. The cops show up. They chase this guy. Guy hops into a vehicle. This turns into a chase. on the freeway down there, Highway 69, Dan. Guy approaches an intersection, crosses the curb of a median, hits two signs, crashes into another car,

hits a chase bank sign, and the car catches fire. Oh. But now cops who have been chasing this MFER are responsible for saving this. Yeah. You know at one point you're like, this fucking guy.

Yeah, but that's... The cars turned over, it's on fire. Yes. They're unable to open the driver's... side door because of the crash. Oh, can't get it open. Other deputy goes to the passenger side, breaks that door open, and pulls him out. Huh.

I feel you should be allowed at least one strike each. You pick foot, fist. Hey, we saved you. Now, get ready, buddy. Something that Kay may be very near and dear to the dumb zones heart, at least until Fox 4 moves from downtown. The city of Dallas has a new tactic. they'll be rolling out for drivers with multiple unpaid parking tickets. We no longer have necessarily towing to be fearful of, but they are trying something.

You know Blake has been towed multiple times? I think he got towed from the Alamo. Yeah. I'm over five for sure. A couple years ago, yeah, in our 420 show. Yeah. He got towed because he generally will just park wherever, like T.C. used to do at the station, too. Crazy.

But Blake often has been just towed, and he deals with it like, it's just another day. He's very Blake. He's not pissed. He's not stomping around. They got one. He's just like, well. I'll get the next one. I rolled the dice on a parking ticket, but I'm not going to roll the dice on getting towed.

So you're saying you've illegally parked so many times. Have you added that up in your head? What have I saved compared to how much I've spent towing? Well, yeah, that's obviously. part of it. And a lot of these toings were from college campuses where they wanted like 500 bucks for a parking sticker. Yeah. Uh-uh. So, I mean,

if I'm getting towed twice that year, I'm coming out even. Do you value your time? That's not... Because that's the part of... Back then, not really. But if my time is spent fighting the man, then yeah, I can write that off. That's a win. That's what I was going to say about chasing the guy at the

grocery store. You forget that, like, I like that. So, yeah, it's dumb. There are costs. But there's a pay off. You're aware that I just like to yell sometimes. Yeah. And the next time you take... Hey, bring that back. You take the magazine into the bathroom for 15 minutes. Well, you're the guy that chased somebody. You've got a leash. First down. No doubt. The program in Dallas that are unleashing here, it's called the barnacle program.

You seen the barnacles? Here's a picture of it. It's like this giant plastic case that they install on your windshield. This is if you're going to be towed. And instead of towing you, they put this on with a QR code. And if you pay your tickets and a $100 fee, it comes off. So this is replacing towing. That's good. Tickets and plus $100? Yeah. And also they do a $300 credit card hold until like the transaction, like they're making sure you, they think you, and you can do a payment plan too. But they're going to make sure you've given them at least $300. Can you imagine walking out and seeing that on your car? Yeah, I can't. Because it's probably going to happen to me.

Well, half the time, I just kind of forget to hit the app. That's 100% of the time. Like, I wish it would just scan me when I win it, you know? I'll pay the six bucks. I don't give a shit. Yeah. I don't want to. I know, but they've given me enough tickets now that I do want to pay the money.

So what's difference between this and the boot? You can actually scan this and get it off and then drive on your way? Yeah. And the boot? You don't have to call anybody. You don't have to get toes. leave it laying there? I'm taking it with me. I paid for it.

That's a good question. I'd like to see you get one just for the show. I mean, I probably, just wait. I will. I always wanted to, this probably doesn't go on the list, but I got towed in Austin one time. I guess it's the only time. I got toad in Austin one time.

And I came out of the 7-Eleven. It was daytime. It was for a Texas football game. I came out of a 7-Eleven downtown. I was in there for like less than five minutes, and the dude was towing my car. And he didn't even have it up yet. But he had just put the thing on,

and I was like, bro, what are we doing? You could take that off. I'll pay you. And? He was like, no, I was like 18. He's like, get the fuck out of my face. Oh. A big dude worked for a toe.

And I, at that moment was like, I want to get in. Yeah. And I want it there to be a video of them towing, this vehicle with me in the driver's seat just like Tiananmen Square like uh-uh. They can't? That's what I've heard. That's what I've heard.

But I have seen videos of it before. Also very illegal. So you didn't use your Riz to talk your way out of that? Uh, he's too teed up. What am I risen some like 42-year-old named Eduardo that weighs 420 pounds who's built like a fridge? And then like probably

the tone at which you entered the, right? Like, eh. Yeah, it wasn't. It was probably not gentle. Like, he lives for those moments. Like, I can't wait to another 18-year-old asshole. Yeah. Yeah, I'll put you in the car if you want.

What, uh, Mike, something? Can we get a mic for T.C? I just, how did you ris your way in yesterday? Did we get that, or am I ruining the plan? Oh, yeah. You told everyone a package. So, I brought food in for, TC. He wanted a couple of tacos.

Is that why I saw the TC call me text? Yeah. Okay. Because they weren't letting me bring food in. Because it was the biggest practice of the year. Blah, blah, blah. They're selling. They are selling.

Yeah, you can't walk in with a bag of food. And I had a bag and it had like a door dash. Could not have been a barred. I ate my burrito. But if you had ordered simply a burrito, I could have put that in my pocket. Uh-huh. He had to have the Ahi tacos, and there's a whole thing. Extra walk.

Right. There's a whole, like, too big plastic. It is a medical concern. Containers and all that. Dietary restrictions gets you through. Well, I used that a little bit. So they said that I couldn't do it. And I remembered a trick that I had used back in the days of attending my daughter's basketball games when they would tell me not to bring in coffee.

So I said my camera guy is a diabetic Yeah, all right, we like that a lot We like that a lot I've pulled that card a lot Nice one In the event that she asked to produce an image He probably passes And so, oh

You're like he used to be an alcoholic It messed his stuff up Like do you think I wanted to like leave camp And then go get food and come back Like don't hassle me here And then they let me through Yeah, I don't know that you were lying Yeah.

I had, because for the daughter's basketball games, the 8 a.m. games or whatever, this is diabetic coffee. Yeah. And they would just let, because it was like a 14-year-old kid. Just lying to someone in the child's basketball game? How about them telling me that I can't bring my own coffee in here? That's insane. I used to do the same doing mad. You know, let me tell you something.

This is the bullshit about this, too. You're in South Lake Texas. supposed to be the bastion of like, we're not really, we're Republicans. We're not really trying to tell you what to do. We're not really trying to run some up-your-ass bullshit. It's just insane, dude. It's 8 a.m. I got a 7-Eleven coffee. I don't want your coffee.

But I have to. Why didn't you ever, have you used the diabetic thing? It doesn't make any sense. It just kind of means coffee without sugar, right? It doesn't make any sense. But to a 14 or 12-year-old kid that's taking the tickets and letting you through, what are they going to do? even like an old. Oh, diabetic, like, you could just raise this force field.

What are you going to do? Now, luckily, a diabetic isn't taking the tickets because they'd be like, what does that mean? Whenever I was at the World Cup thing with Jim Knox, they were stopping us every time we were trying to go into Texas Live. And he would just give them a string of words that didn't really make sense separately or together, but he just kind of kept on.

And he had a microphone and camera behind him. And they sort of walked away at some point. But I used to sneak Code Red into mass post game shows with the same thing. Oh, you can't bring in that drink. I'm diabetic. Okay. They never, if they ever asked you to follow up on that, what would you have said, you know? Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, but it's great, folks. We're helping you out here. A 41-year-old Texas mother, stay over there. A 41-year-old Texas mother was arrested in Florida. You know what? All right. Now she... Arrest photos are always a little...

Let's say the object in a mirror. Yeah. It's not as ugly as it appears. She kind of has Kyla from Tires vibes. And that's going to make a lot of sense when I tell you the story. The 41-year-old was in Florida at a place called Sunny Isles Beach Park, where she left her 6-year-old son. And he was found at 8.50 that night went up to another family saying he hadn't seen his mom since

that morning. How old is he? Six. They used to call that parenting. And that he hadn't eaten since breakfast. That's on him. The mom. But it was a full, like, egg, sausage, you know, the whole thing.

Right. Whatever the continental breakfast was. They say to the kid, where's your mom? They call the cops. They walk around the whole park looking for the mom. She comes back around 10 o'clock, and they arrest her. They're like, well, where are you been? she said she went to get toys for the child at a shopping center,

ran into a friend and sat down and had dinner. Like, how is she going to see this person again? You know, you kind of have to... It was just a chance meeting. She accepted the invitation while leaving her son at the park. Well, I'm not going to be rude. Yeah. You know?

If you spent that entire time in a crack house, you've got to come up with a better explanation than that. She mentioned that she's diabetic. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, man. But, Dan, you would do that with a packed lunch at Six Flags, right? What do you mean? Like, definitely our generation and obviously earlier,

your parents weren't going with you to Six Flags. No. I don't know about the age of six. Six is a little light. Seems a little young, but yes. You know, we'd be on our bikes at the mall, Jake. I bet if we had hard data on the first time you were driving, dropped off unsupervised for a day.

I'll bet it's around six. I was definitely leaving the house solo by six. Yeah, neighborhood, but I don't know about dropped off somewhere, but certainly dropped off all day at the mall. It was single digits. Was they deaf for sure? Yes. Yeah, kindergarten, we would do half days.

And when Maya was done in the afternoon, they would drop me off, and I would just walk to my friend's house, play Super Nintendo. I'll never forget crying on the bus the first day of kindergarten, because my mom just... You know, now it's like you've got to drive to the school, and then we're going to get a camera crew for the, to document the whole thing. It was like, all right, pretty happy you're gone now.

Just on the bus, I think I had to be walked off because I was just crying. I didn't know where to go. I was supposed to follow the one kid. Hey, just keep an eye on Matt. He lives down the street. His last name is an M. Certainly he'll probably be in your class. Watch Matt.

But I wasn't really friends with Matt. So I had to keep an eye on him, but then I lost him. And then I just sat there crying. Oh, man. Yeah. That's really a bummer, dude. Oh, no, it's a good memory. You guys know it's been 105 all week at home.

I do know. Yeah, I've been gloating to myself every day. We're doing inside school release, which we've never done before. What does that mean? You're not allowed to wait outside at 305. Oh. They make you wait inside, which there is not room for, and then go out, which, yeah. I'm sure there's no chaos there at all

Good Lord I did want to do this story before we go I like this it's from Houston one of their TV stations did a new story where they went out to a company in Galveston where they are beta testing and getting pretty close

on electric planes So they're testing Blake Yeah They're testing little betas See how far they can go on one charge Dude right now they have a plane that on one charge can fly 300 miles. Okay.

This is going to happen. And it seemed, I mean, I say it's going to happen, but that's exactly what I've said about things like, you know, the self-driving car, and now I'm out on that. You have to remember there are like institutional forces that want to keep things like fossil fuels in place, but there's the option here. And it's coming.

They've got a Cessna 1172. That's like a propy-looking plane, but you see the charger here? And I think this is regarded as one of the harder problems to solve in terms of getting rid of gas. Or getting rid of greenhouse is gases. I don't know if these are the three, but the three I hear a lot about are planes, the process of making steel and cows farting. What about making... Is there a problem with making the batteries themselves?

Probably, but I'm sure the batteries are carbon positive. Oh, because I've always just heard... Or negative? Some people like, yeah, but even making the battery is worse than whatever. What do you do with the batteries when they're no longer usable? That's the big thing. Just the disposal of the battery? Disposable of the batteries, yeah.

Yeah, have you guys ever done a prop? Have you ever done that right? What? I'm just supposed to do your batteries? Like, the job that Matt does. I have. Where do you take them? Not double A's, but if it's like a old computer or something,

there's a... Best Buy will take a lot of stuff. Batteries Plus will take stuff. Okay. Yeah. But like if you have a 9-bolt, aren't you supposed to throw them away not in the trash? We used to have, yes. We used to have a shoe box that we would put your double A's and all that,

and once it filled up, we'd take it to batteries plus. Okay. That's a good system. I don't know you were supposed to do that. But we're dirty libs, yeah. You go ahead and just dump the grease right down the sink. You probably don't have any grease. don't have any grease

that's never clogged a drain I got a big ass I dump it down the sink Really? Yeah Mythbusters I trust you on that Yeah never

Never clogged one of my drains I got a big battery in my car right now What are you going to do with it? I tried to take it to AutoZone They wouldn't let me Yeah car battery I'd do something with Like appropriately dispose of it

A double A battery I don't think twice It's like a car battery But it's not a car battery It's like to charge your stuff in case of what you're always dreaming about. If a storm knocks out your power, you want to be able to do some recharge.

I love that we're just telling people to just dump a bunch of stuff down your sink and then advertising a plumbing company. Well, that's perfect. You, right, and some squat. Yeah, I think it does nothing. Try it.

Happy birthday. Thank you. See, the specialists are out there. I knew they'd be out here today. No, there's a practice today? No. Sorry, there is tomorrow. Yeah.

But I knew they'd be out of here. FlooringDirectDefW.com is not out here. They're back in Dallas. They are Dallas. That's the thing. They're not a national chain or anything. They are very, very Dallas. Dan, Dan, the Flooring Direct

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and get a free estimate today. It's new floor Cizzen. Do we have a break ground date? No, it's all got to wait until I get back. Yeah. Because we have, the den is going to be a thing for us to have to work around because we have a lot of... Look, Flooring Direction is ready to roll right now.

It's the McDowell household that's not quite ready to roll. But we will be. They'll be patient. No, we got new floors coming this fall, man. It's going to be great. I'm excited. And you will be christening them, Jake, whatever that means. Anyway, that brings us fewer male birthdays.

A couple that rolled in during the show. And I start with this one. Hi, white men, my husband loves. It's an honor. I'm wishing my husband a very special happy birthday, August 19th, as he enters the last year in his 20s. Fun fact. We actually have birthdays a day apart.

And it took me three times asking when his birthday was to remember that it's literally the day before mine. I like that. I think women who are two, women could be a man here, don't know. We just know she has a person has a man in their life. I think if you meet somebody in there way too hung up on birthdays, you got a red flag, big time.

Yes, to meet a woman who's not hung up on birthdays, sounds like a dream. Yeah. What do you want to do next? We also just celebrated our second anniversary, married August 10th. He chose that date in the same month of our birthdays. And yes, he did just ask me, does this count as a two-for-one after our anniversary? so the romance is not dead, but he definitely planned on two-for-one gifts forever. First down.

Blake has ruled. Williams' leaders are Jake's picnic buffet table and Blake. Dan's staying for an entire Rangers game. He enjoys gaming, football, and being a foodie with me as well as going to random events. where I'm mostly the only brown in the crowd, including at your guy's first DZGSE, where he met Brandon Aubrey after I told him I stood in line with him trying to get a beer for 15 minutes.

Anyway, he's got a photo with Aubrey, has replaced ours in all the wallpapers and profile picks, etc. I mean, you've just got to know what time it is. He's an all pro. Yeah. Yeah. You've been married a year. Which one who you use more talented?

The kicker or some random lady. Who we value. She says he will be walking up in that special way. That's sweet. Let's see. If this is too much for the show, leave it out. But I want to say if he's listening, I love you, baby. Congratulations.

You are going to be a dad before you're 30 like you hope for. Oh, no. Oh. Oh. I'm pregnant. Oh, wow. Look at that. Congratulations.

How about that, dude. Look at that. Will you name him dumb? There's not more. Does the story continue? Is that the end of it? It's not yours. I was going to say, yeah.

You're still reading, and I feel like that should be the end. I don't know if I want to read the rest of this, but I'm going to. I think you have to. You have to now. She writes, I'm pregnant, parentheses for now. Keep it in perspective, sure. Yeah, that's what she means. Proud of you for doing your part, you get me.

I hope it doesn't die this time. Good God. I've asked you very specifically, is there more to this email? And then I said specifically, I don't want to read it, and what did I hear after that? Not for me. That's a very realistic approach. They're being mature about it. There's good for them.

Let me tell you something. It's a popular sentiment. Being pregnant is like training camp. It's zero and zero right now, right? Nowhere to go but up. He hadn't lost the game yet. Seaton's going to be great as long as everyone stays healthy. Just stop reading there.

That's from Abigail. Thank you for the email. Good luck, Abby. I'm surprised you didn't tag it unless I'm dead by the time this gets read. Is a brown lady named Abigail? If she did die, I hope that she locked in an annual. Certainly. Hello, Mr. Penis.

That's a good one. Please wish good D.F. Brian a happy D.F. Brian if he wore number five birthday. His heroes are peptides and riding off the car and the kid. Yeah. That's good. He wants more cannons and less. fishhead wife. Crank that hog before it cranks you from Nick in South Pflugerville.

That was a really well-constructed email. He was a good callback to the, was it J.P. Morgan or something. Oh, the fake one? The Indian guy who was trying to say this. I had no idea what it meant. Yeah. Trying to say that his hot, white boss lady was hitting on him. What was it?

She just wouldn't stop trying to suck. Yeah. You want some more of these cannons? She referred to... That's right. Hey, Dan, sorry for the late email. Today is my 36th birthday. We please mention Nick Kerguios getting suspended from professional tennis because of cocaine during today's show.

Kyrgyz, I think. Thanks, King from Brian. We watched... I made you watch a little bit of that guy. Why do I care about that? Well, he's probably the most popular tennis player, one of the three. for in the world and he's bad boy. And he just got busted for cocaine?

Yeah. When's the last time an athlete got suspended for cocaine? More recently than you think. Oh, that's a good one. Dear El Caudillo del seafood burrito. Today is the birthday of leader of men, a champion of all causes,

the effervescence, the king, the master of ceremonies, ring leader, bass fisherman, beer drinking, barbecue specialist, DF number six, Jared All Aldard. Damn it. His leaders are Bud Dwyer, Christine Chubbock,

and Clifford Roberts. Is Christine Chubbock the lady that killed herself on TV? I know he's D.F. number six because I texted him the Patreon link immediately after I, DF number four, saw it. And because I'm a homo.

It is. Yeah, all three of them. That third one had to be too. Yeah. I can't believe how much you've bitched about eating the oysters when we all know how much you love clam. That's what I've been saying.

Great point. That is from D.F. number four, Austin, 6'5. Right out of the gate. We're putting numbers on the board. Yeah. I know Clayton's in the first five, and he's big fella. It's tall. And one more I have dear Jean-Claude canned Dan.

That's a good one. I want Can Dan to be a viral hit so bad, dude. I think you're going to take a little, very little work and let Henry and Blake go nuts with it. Let's do it. I think that there's something there. So is this on our feed or my personal feed? Yeah, you need to change your IG handle to Can Dan.

He says, please feel free to use this name as your Tin Fish TikTok channel. Please wish happy 50th birthday to me, D.F. Dan Houchin. My wife is tired of me talking. about the Dumb Zone podcast, so I had to send my own birthday shout out. I don't know my subby number because I'm not gay. My leaders are Jimmy Nelson, the kittens that walk single file behind Sarah Hepha to hide their numbers. To hide their numbers. Angelo's contempt for Blake as he swipes his Venmo debit card at Coldstone Creamery.

and the imaginary Velociraptor I envision handing Jake a tissue to wipe away tears while he bitches out listening to the Jurassic Park score. Trust me, dude. You're not far off. By the way, the jolly oyster only opened Saturday and Sunday. So you guys are safe.

The sand oyster. I think we just have to... Let's stay one more night. Might be worth it. Would you rather be handed crying baby with soiled diaper and it's 118

degrees outside or you're eating a sand-filled oyster on the beach with Jake yeah give me the oyster that's the easy one more profoundly laced introductions

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And then you'll see if the curtain matches. What are we doing now? Oh, today in history. You got anything like Angelo Brewing now? It's more of an organic thing. No. It was just such a content factory. One of the great decisions of all time.

It worked well. Get yourself a hot Angela out here. I saw a hot chick, hot chick. Hot homeless chick this morning. Yeah, Jake was beating her. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, the other day he gave us.

Irvin's falafel. Yeah. So today is Wednesday, August 19th, on this day in 19-0-Man, what a day. There's a lot going on here today. 1909, the first race at the Indy Motor Speedway. 12,000 spectators watch. It was a 5-mile race. 1909.

Average speed? 6.38. 57. That's a lot more than I would have thought. Looking at the speed of light. Now, we weren't accustomed to building roads that could handle that kind of speed. And the surface, it was crushed rock and tar.

It broke up in a number of places and caused the deaths of two drivers, two mechanics, and two spectators. Now, that's sports. And they were like, let's run it back again next year. Just two? Six total. Yeah, but two.

A lot of people out there. A category, break it down. Right, right. Not that big a deal. Most of the people who went were fine. Right. Yeah, always. And having fun.

12,000 people were there. Only six deaths. That's basically zero deaths. Although that's not public execution numbers. Public execution was outdrawing. Absolutely. All right, what do we got this weekend? Let's just decide one, we're going to go one place.

Well, there's a hand. Or there's a race with these new fangled... What are we racing horses? No, no, no, no. Those things, the machines. All right. You're telling me it can beat a horse. That's bullshit.

What if death is the draw, though? That's why I wasn't drawn very well. Yeah, next year, it totally outdrew the hangin. Like, because you might get more than one death. The hanging, it's too telegraphed. You know, obviously, this is... All right. On this day in 1951, Jake, is the day that Bill Vec sent a 65-pound, 3-foot-7-inch man to pinch hit, in quotes, because he was pinch hitting for the lead-off batter.

Very tiny strike zone. They were unable. He went up with like a, it was like a wiffleball bat. Like he had a fake bat. They walked him. They took him out for a pinch runner. He had the jersey number 1-8th. That's fun. And that was his only Major League Baseball appearance. They would ban, they would have a height.

They just went to six flags and said, hey, bring this thing over here, set it down. And then walking to the plate every day, you had to be taller than this. And if you were, you could then bat. How does Title IX allow that? And then I believe Eddie Goodell would take, yes, he would go on to become a very, very famous, rich. Died surrounded by his family?

Died surrounded by his family at a ripe old age and just grandchildren. Mugged, beaten severely. Mugged, beaten severely, and left to die in an alley. Also, he was an alcoholic and broke. You could just hear the happiness in Dan's voice when he talks about this story. Feels like it comes up more often than a WNBA draft. Really, John.

Here's the day where the alley where they found him, the two buildings were built. I'll tell you why I'm excited about this story. Because for you, I consider myself an amateur baseball historian, and for years, I didn't know about that until like two years ago. The ending part. Yeah. You just always hear about, oh, what a fun thing.

thing, Eddie Goodell. Ah, old Bill Vec, you know, it's just another part of the colorful history of Major League Baseball. And he just don't go look into, if we could just stop the story there, we're all happy. We're all great friends. But had Jerry done that, he'd be at camp every year. Right? He'd be doing the coin toss.

Take care of it. Wouldn't die in an alley. There would be no rowdy. There'd be a tiny rowdy. Hell, that's what they did with Lacewell. Tiny row. Yeah, they would. Boy.

I'd love a tiny rowdy. In this day in 1995, it was Mike Tyson's first post-prison fight. He beat Peter McNeeley, 129 into the first round. On this day in 2004, Carly Patterson won the gold medal in the women's all-around gymnastics. She was 16 years old at the time. Baller. On this day in 2015, long-time subway.

pitchman, Jared Fogle, agreed to plead guilty to allegations that he paid for sex acts with minors and received child pornography. He was sentenced to over 15 years in prison, so it must mean like 15 point something, in 2015. So when he gets out, the Mavs and the Stars will still be at the... You were thinking that same thing. He's got a...

Wild Oprah. And this will lead us into audio. Jared? Yeah. I mean, like, it was a lot before all this stuff, but, like, he's a weirdo. Would be interested in you bringing that to the table someday? You don't say. Yeah, yeah.

And on this day in 2020, Tom Brennaman ended up making a comment, and Castiano's hit a deep fly to left field. Let me just do this here. We can do this for you. So Tom Brennaman, this is the old should you apologize thing? Because then you're just going to want to know what they apologize for. So this is what some people tuned into, and you've heard this a million times. Oops, excuse me.

3-0 ballgame with the Reds in front of the Royals. We go to the top half of the fifth inning. Castellanos to leave things off. Jim Day is going to be taking us the rest of the way through this game. As Holland takes over on the mound, Pause. That right there is the introduction. That's the fox in the head house.

Because he's clearly, he's like, I'm going to do play by play. I'm going to get this apology off, but I'm also going to do play by play. And once he makes that choice, we are set up for the famous moment. I just, I love the foreshadowing of Castanos to lead all. He's going to take the first one off the corner. As Holland takes over on the mound, Also the um It's like

It's a little Voice breaking a little bit Yep Yeah Yep I made a comment earlier tonight That I guess

Went out over the year That I am deeply We're gonna bingo this right You guess Well Ashamed off Bingo Or E5

He's got to It wasn't supposed to be Over the air So He asked But at that point He knows It was

So don't put in I guess But if someone is doing their job right, he wouldn't be apologizing. You say they unintentionally went out over the year. A big part of the broadcaster's job is not saying slurs. We've all been here. If I have heard anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart, I'm so very, very sorry. Apology accepted. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith.

Bingo. As there is a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame. Isn't this amazing how this has followed him, and then there's other things with Costian. Like, 10 years from now, when you say the word Castellano, this is all I'm going to think about. A thousand percent. Dude, he was like. And he's had a really good career.

He was like moving betting markets. Like the Pope was. die and they're like, what's his over under on hits tonight? Like, there was, right. People were loading up. If he doesn't hit that home run, Brennam is probably back. That's an interesting point, but I don't think it's crazy. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.

Oh, I am sorry. As there is a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame. I don't know if I'm going to be putting on this headset again. I don't know if it's going to be for the Reds. I don't know if it's going to be for my bosses at Fox. I'm going to apologize for the people who sign my paycheck. For the Reds, for Fox Sports, Ohio, for the people I work with, for anybody that I've offended here tonight.

America. I can't begin to tell you how deeply sorry I am. That is not who I am and never has been. I got one. And I'd like to think maybe I could have some people that could back that up. Who? Well, preemptively. I am very, very sorry, and I beg for your forgiveness.

Jim Dale take you the rest of the way home. Wow. Do we have his first call? That's interesting. What is Jim doing? But what we have that we've never really heard before is the audio that got him in trouble. And anytime you've ever heard this, all you've just heard is a beep. You don't know what he said.

But here's what he said. So this is the pregame show. it's right before they come back from break. And like you said, there is an engineer that left the mics up. Or, yeah, Borda up at the station who had to punch up. On purpose, I don't know. It doesn't seem like it would have been because you would have had to know that he was... Remember, oh, so this was during COVID.

If you could tell Cassiano's hits the home run and the crowd level never changes. Oh, really? So this was at the height of COVID. So there were some, yeah, logistical probably problems. Okay, he might not even been there. This might have even been spring training. Yeah, this is a warm-up of how are we going to- It's not spring training because it's this day in history.

But they were. But you're right. We had just resumed. So, yeah, they were still trying to figure out protocols here. Okay, so apparently there was some conversation going on or something because he's going to refer to a city in a derogatory manner. That's the thing that you'll hear. So it's the pregame show.

The fag capitals of the world. Reds Live, the pregame show, presented by Ray St. Clair Roofing. That's too close. That F could not be harder. That's a thing. When he's like, at the end of his apology, very, like. For the Reds, for Fox Sports, Ohio, for the people I work with, for anybody that I've offended here tonight,

I can't begin to tell you how deeply sorry I am. That is not who I am. and never has been. Yeah. Now, there is a way of, of like jokingly. Dude.

Or lightheartedly, if you said that about a place, like, oh, you know, or it's like, I'm, I'm upset that those people live there. A fag Catholic people. I mean,

it is. It's harsh. And like, again, it's hard. I don't want to, you know, you don't know what's in somebody's heart. It's hard.

to project intent, but like we joke around about a lot of stuff here, off the show. It's pretty offensive. Nobody talks like that. I don't really know anybody. And I have some for like, most, you know why? Because none of my friends really hate gay people. Right. So like Tom Burtigman, you know, and I don't know exactly how, but somehow through the process of his healing and redemption, he was talking about San Francisco. So this is not like, uh, oh, he said that? I don't know. I swear to you, there's an. article where he he also says it's one of because i would have think you don't go one of if you're talking about san francisco i just he was in kansas city i was just saying my memory is blazing saddles

he is where he's where he's where they refer to those types of people being in kansas city so i always thought oh that is a blazing saddles reference i always thought he was making a blazing saddles reference but if he said that he was talking about san francisco and he used that voice then yeah i guess he's but if you were talking about media that's what it says yeah if you were doing Blazing Saddles, wouldn't you, it'd be a little more lighthearted? Like, you're goofing around. It was the Kansas City bundle of sticks. Blazing Saddles.

So, yeah. Just to Blake's point about, like, the engineers, the one that screwed this up, clearly they could have done a better job, but that is too close to the start of the statement. Really close. That's a normal time to have the mics already up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If the Musers, whenever I was filling in for them,

were regularly saying stuff like that, they would have had this happen to them. Yeah. Yeah. That's a wild one, man. He's back, though, football. Doing what? He does football.

He does college football in the CW. Is that back? Did some SMU games. So it is... He had a very dream before the dream type moment when he came back, too. Oh, I'll bet. It wasn't as funny as rads, but he's like, hey, you remember me? He's become a bit of a sympathetic figure by how hard the punishment's been,

so maybe this is an invoked to say, but he was always awful. He was one of the worst. I didn't want it to happen like that, but the fact that I didn't have to hear him is a great blessing in my life. So it is August 19th, this day in Dumb Zone history. Let's see. In 2021, during the news, we were,

Jake was doing the story of how the real housewives of Dallas died. It was a show. Yeah. The show died? Yeah. The show centered on Real Housewives in Dallas. Low ratings, and this says anti-Asian incidents. Huh.

Which I don't remember. Let's see. We don't like that. But then our idea was they needed to pick Dallas women everyone had heard of. And our core was going to be Romo's wife, Katie Hamilton, Julie and Emily Jones, and Twiggy. Oh, my God. There you go.

Season past. Sarah Jane Ramos could absolutely anchor a show like that now. Is she from Cowboys? That's Dax. Oh, okay, there you go. Okay. Add that six. T.C. and I did see them, like, we used to see them shooting in, like, Deep Ellum.

We do IJB. So, at least one time. Yeah. It feels like all those shows have fallen off. What was the show that Matt Nordgren was on? Not just Matt Norgren, buddy, but also Jody Dean. It was Dallas Most Eligible Bachelor. All right.

Do you remember that, Dan? No. Oh, yeah. I want to be on that. I feel like we got you close. Yeah, you're one step away, bud. If I got divorced, would I be on that, would I be, would that be labeled? Would it be a label that people would just put on me?

Most eligible bachelor? Yeah, one of. Dude, you've covered the South Lake Style magazine. Yeah. South Lake we've covered it. Twice. Yeah. Matt Nordgren.

He's no chance mock. No. Thank you, Blake. And then last year, this was the day we had our Brandon Aubrey Show song contest. Oh. Hell yeah. Where we settled on the winner. So I think it was yesterday and today in history.

Liz Cambridge sets the record for most NBA points in a game. It might have been her birthday, yes. But yes, you're right. It's somewhere around the last couple weeks. Well, a story about her on this day last year, she made more money on only fans in one year than six years in the WMBA. I believe it. And then words added to the dictionary.

There's a lot more people. Orn even. Interesting in women's basketball. Luke, L-E-W-K. What is this? These are names? Words added to the dictionary. L-E-W-K.

Slang for a very bold, unique, or striking fashion outfit. Look, we're just putting internet words in here now? It's spelled L-E-W-K. I love the Clayton. Anyways, I think we'll know the other ones. Tradwife. Oh, yeah. DeLulu.

I need one on those. And Skivety. Those are not... These were words added to the dictionary. Looks like... You're about to say they're not words, but they get to pick whose words, bud. That's a good point. Are you Miriam Webster?

No. Is that two people or one? I always think it's like Miriam Adelston. Miriam Webster. I'm going to go back to the Real Housewives of Dallas real quick. Okay. And their cancellation. Here's a video that's surfaced from one of the...

contestants. She's not Asian. Let's see if this player is great. Oh, everybody asks me what Asian I am because of my eyes they squinty. So, but I have a new hair to. Uh-huh. I was starting to lose. Oh, man.

Wow. I mean, the fact that you had to say she's not Asian, I think is a testament to the quality of the impersonation. That was posted in 2017. It resurfaced in 2020. And I guess that's when Everything's resurfacing in COVID. You have all this time.

Let's just go search everything. Yeah. Got some downtime my job. I did hate that bitch I knew a while ago. Right. Other birthdays today, Steve Odd is 44? Put some balls in your mouth. Do you remember that?

No. There was briefly an energy drink called balls. B-A-W-L-Z. and Bob and Dan were obsessed with it. I think I had seen it, drank it, whatever. But they're like, hey. So Steve Ott started drinking it. And he was on the show one day.

And the interview ended with Groob's going, go put some balls in your mouth. I was like, all right. That's the whole story, but it was very funny. Remember listening to it. Bucky Irving is 24. Baker's backfield mate. Could have been the Cowboys, right?

Yeah, I believe drafted right after the Trey Lance pick or something. Yeah. All right. Yeah, that was it. But at least we got a good look at Trey Lance. You guys do a lot of great interviews, but not having groups saying stuff at the end of them. It's a real loss. He used to be so good.

Or at the beginning. Terrence Newman would sit down at the table and Groves would be back at the station. And you just hear groups go, what a do, man? Terrance Newman goes, what a do? looking around. Hey, who the fuck? What a two player? Morton Anderson is 66. You know him as one of the rare full-footed kickers in Saints history. Oh, that's most of them. You'd have a guy out here yesterday that they're like, all right, time to lapped that bitch off. Bobby A. Bear is 66.

Saints. David Boston is 48. Unfortunately, not the father of a Brown's rookie receiver. David Boston was on that juice. But he was such a badass. Geared up. Nate Burleson is 45. Occasionally you'll hear him telling you what's going on on the Gaza Strip. On like Wednesday morning on CBS.

You're like, the slot guy? Kirk Cousins is 38. I guess. Blake. Kirk Herb Street is 57. Yeah, we'll see a birthday tweet or post today, and he'll definitely have his dog with him. I heard he liked McAfee's album.

Of course he did. Can we just go back to not knowing anything about announcers? I would think that Kirk Herb Street's one of the great Americans if I didn't know anything about him. Social media is ruining everything. Well, for a while, no, it's not just social media. And I'm not trying to make this like every segment is late-stage capitalism. but Kirk Herbstreet was good at his job.

And then they said, more, more, more, more, more, more. We'll pay you more, but you got to do more. And then he started to suck at his job. Yeah. Like what happens in every company now, he was awesome. Was. And then they're like, well, what if we make you work 120 hours a week and see if we can make it all suck?

Well, maybe some of the content could just be my dog. And McAfee, look, I'm not a McAfee fan. But I do respect him more than just about anybody out there from the like, boomer Osyison or Mike Greenberg or any of these guys who make a lot of money. But not even implying the dude's like a partier because I'm sure he's got Addy for days to keep him up. He looks tired on Saturday mornings when they put him on game day. And now they're going to put him on Monday night football. The story today is he will be a part of Monday night football coverage.

He does a three-hour radio show every day and game day. and now it's put them on Monday night football. Like, it'll just make your stuff suck. If you do, whatever. Not do an album. Well, then that's the thing, too. It's like, okay, I go out there and I throw the pitch and I get it across the plate, but it's not a good throw.

And I come to work and it's like, kill yourself. This guy puts out the worst album I've ever heard, and his coworkers are like, this is so good, man. You should do more of this. I'll take our way. Trust me. Because it's disgusting. Kirk Herb Street is like, why don't we get this on game day?

And you know what? They will. Yeah. And you'll have no choice. Jonathan Martin is 36. Oh, no. Remember who he is? The sheep like cannibal.

Yeah, he got bullied by Richard and Cognito. I read a story about Jonathan Martin like a year ago or you were supposed to feel like bad for him and like better that he's doing Wednesday. I can't wait. I'm interested to hear the end of this is what you say. Yeah. Really? You might want to bully him a little bit. I don't know.

I mean, it's the NFL. Like, at some point, it's tricky, right? It's the whole mental health, NFL, pro sports. Whenever this is blown up, I was in Pensacola and had the chance to talk to former Cornhusker great Adam Carrecker, who was on all the Richie Incognito teams. And I kind of was like, man, like the, it was very like the Grego-Kishon Johnson interaction of like, this guy sounds like a crazy guy. Yeah, well, he was in my wedding.

So I actually always found him to be an excellent teammate. That was tricky, man. Bullied. Steepai Miochich is 43. You've probably interviewed him. MMA meathead from Cleveland, yeah. He won his title in 2016. It was a big year.

Right before the Cavs, right? Yeah. Anthony Munoz is 68. Cowboy. I don't think so. No? I think he was a Bengal. I thought of you.

And maybe only a Bengal. Yeah, I think he's only a bengal. You guys are football guys. Ron Darling is 66. Gary Gaietti is 68. He's our war games winner today, 42.1. I've never heard of that man in my life. You've never heard of Gary Gaietti?

What did he do? What was his position? Yeah. Baseball guy knows. Royals, maybe? Twins. I played a lot of baseball video games growing up, dude. Like, a lot.

There's about a five-year window where every roster in there. It was locked in my head. And that five-year window is when TC was taking four-minute showers. Yeah. The guy with the stopwatch looking at it. I played a lot of Ken Griffey when I was younger. That was an amazing game. No video games at all?

There was a brief period where someone got a PS2 approved. I don't remember why they took it away, but they certainly took it away. Yeah, but it's like group usage. You've got to sign up for it. But I'd never played Madden before and we would get like a little tiny,

you could play like one game a week. And when I got out, I said, I know what I'm going to do with the rest of my life. You're like, I'm going to eat chips? Yes. They told us like no candy, no sweets. You got to eat what we say. And you can't play Madden except for once a week.

So the first thing is I'm buying, and they took the governor off me. Boxes of cereal. Yes. And I'm going to play Madden and just all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they said I had to. keep my hair short.

So now you understand my entire personality. Bill Clinton is 80. Happy birthday. Is this his once a year? No, that's Christmas. What did he say it? There's no way they do it once a year. I'm saying there's no way they do it at all.

Remember this from just earlier this year? Bill Clinton at the draft press conference with Jerry. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this right here. Come in this house. Yes, sir, Mr. President. I'm negotiating the draft.

I'm negotiating the draft. I'm negotiating the draft. Well, certainly they won't just laugh at that, even though it doesn't make sense. Well, they do, so much so. Negotiating the draft. All right. There you go. I've always wanted to be.

He would have done. Is that Bill Clinton found out? Jerry. almost right here right here he's got to be he's got contact balance right there he's got contact balance you guys think that would have been a great big story in the world of sports i don't think we'd be sitting here right now. Jerry Jones died. Like my grandma's around that age, she fell once a couple years ago. It has been a big deal.

But when Bill Clinton walked in. Now, does that, do we take, make this into a party battle? Does Fox News? Like, of course. Yeah, of course they do. It's Bill Clinton. You know, he would never. That'd be awesome. They'd run a counter of how many people Trump has caused to break their hip. Right.

Trump would have caught him. Zero. The Dems? Countless. Where was I? Anthony Munez, Gary Gidey, Bill Clinton, Kevin Dillon, actor is 61. Oh, yeah. I'm a fan.

Leanne Womack is 60. Jake's mom is listening to her. Yeah. Tabitha Soren from MTV is 59. She is currently married to. Who knows? Captain Sorenson. Oh, wow.

Moneyballs Michael Lewis. Oh. How about that? Bad guy. Rapper Fat Joe is 56. Michael Lewis, bad guy? Yeah. I don't want to hear that.

Yeah. Don't believe, Jake. He says everyone's a bad guy. I know. Listen to him talk about Michael Orr. It's like the most racist shit you've ever heard in your life. I focus on base percentage being more important, the batting average. Michael Lewis is who I thought he was.

But anyways, who was next, Fat Joe? I don't know. Jake's music birthdays. Fat Joe. I get these sent to me by Blake. Michael Todd is 46. I'm going to say some words. I don't know how a deaf person would pronounce these, but here's how I will.

Cohede and Cambria. Yeah. What is that? Outstanding. Yeah, I wasn't a huge fan, but I was a fan. Is that a band? Yeah, Mike Marshall was. They're the type of band that if you get into, you get really, really into.

Dave Douglas is 47. Reliant K. Again? Still. What a week for them. Still don't. It's like the opposite of Zizi Top for Reliant K. Yeah.

They celebrate training. Yeah. It's their birthdays. I'm trying to think of a good comparison for this, but it's like, I don't know, were there a bunch of knockoffs of the Bee Gees? You know what I mean? Like there was some genre bending in, of course, there were things before Blink. But when Blink happened, it was like then after that there were 20 other bands,

and I don't really know most. Most of them. But they're like knockoff versions, you know. Regine Chassan. I don't know. It's probably not how you pronounce it. It's 50. Arcade Fire.

One of the greats. Not really me. But a little bit. You know, I mean, Matt and Liz know the lead singer. No, the lead singer's brother. The lead singer's brother. Okay. Well, in any case.

Okay. Are we impressed by this? They were huge, dude. Will wrote like a Grammy or a Tony winning Broadway play, which, okay, fine, you're not impressed by that. More impressed than the guy's cousin. Who do we meet his cousin yesterday? Jalen Cropper. Former cowboy Jalen Cropper's cousin. He's now on the Saints. The Saints, but he was signed, he was the practice squad guy, signed to the regular squad October 11th last year,

back to the practice squad October 15th. So they must have needed a body one week. Oh, that happens all the time. He got one NFL paycheck in his life. I mean, that's nice. It's a practice squad one. No. Yeah.

Yeah, he's got practice squad paychecks, but I mean NFL regular squad paycheck. That's got to be cool. What is one game? Like 20 grand? More than that. That's like practice squad money is 20 grand. I bet you for, I bet you it's about,

90K for a minimum. God, that'd be cool. And he didn't have to get hit. Could you imagine? Also, Lewis von An is 48. He is the creator of

CAPHA. What's wrong with you? Proof you're a Hammond. Why do you know? You know, I'm stoked on move the puzzle piece right now. He sold that to Google. and then he created Duolingo.

Okay. He was just a business guy, creating. Very successful. And our Dumb Zone birthday of the day, let me ask you this. If you were a chick, who's the one guy you'd sleep with? John Stamos.

Is 63. Born on the Stay Now Dead, Orville Wright, Gene Roddenberry. You know he created Star Trek. I don't have to tell you. Nate Dogg. Matthew Perry.

They invented sarcasm? Oh, it was a new way of talking. And Jake, Reva Steencamp. God, I'm failing today. Didn't Blade Runner shoot her? Is that the right? The model and paralegal killed by boyfriend Oscar Pistorius. Jake?

Wow. Fastball, couple miles off. I don't think I've ever heard that name before. Okay. Yeah. Damn. Isn't he out? I think he is. And dead on the Stay Still Dead, we'll give you Otto Frank, the father of Anne.

And that's what happened on this day in history. Yes, indeed, Rob. So Specialist Tomorrow? Specialist tomorrow. Frankl and Frankel will bring us this little portion of the show, Franco and Frankel, personal injury attorneys. We love the Frankles. We love that Business Wednesday interview, man.

Go back, listen to that. It's like an hour long, but they really tell their whole story. And it really is kind of inspiring. You were there. You videoed it. In fact, T.C. afterwards was like, hey, that was actually like really good. Like, he thought he was just there to video something. It was just going to be some lawyers talking about lawyer stuff.

They were compelling guys. I was happy to get to meet them. Their story is very interesting as far as how to, how they actually used to work for insurance companies, and then they'd like win and then see that, hey, I just kept money from this paraplegic. Reverse nepotism. None of them were coming from anything.

Right. They couldn't sleep at night. So it was like, you know what, what if we start our own firm and we fight for those people? And that's what they do. And so, Frankel and Franco, if you get in a jam, like that and you need somebody to fight for you,

214 or 817, then dial all freeze, threes, or go to franklefirm.com. If Donovan Azaraku punches you, you weren't expecting it. Yeah. Well, you should be, if you're around Donovan X, Zaraku. At this point, yeah. That's a guy.

So, yeah, the specialist tomorrow. I got a whole ass day in front of us here, boys. I might get in that water. And I do have to report. that there will be no dumb zone dinner with the specialist tonight. Oh, man. Because there has been a team bonding activity called...

We got skipped for paintball. By a man with tattoos. Not only is he doing this stuff, he's like dropping him on it, or dropping it last minute. Is he doing what we're doing instead? Oh, hey, by the way, I know you guys had an evening to yourselves.

Let me ruin that. Let's go play putt putt putt and eat. eat a snack. Yeah, maybe they're going to go see Point Break in the theater. I know what they're going to do, but we will talk about it tomorrow with them. We'll let them give the story. But it does sound fun. What do you have plan for us?

You're our shoddy. What do I have plan for you? Yeah, what's our bonding tonight? Bet at 530. You know I'm the, are you guys really going to Point Break? If the schedule is clear, I would love to. I'm up for whatever, dude. I slept for eight hours last night.

I know, but... Oh, yeah, this is... This explains. He can't remember anything. Kemp spins. He bonked your head. What if now, like, you're a guy who doesn't do Kempspins? Hit me again.

Yeah, just bomb her. I want that back. Get a frying pan. Let's go to the list. Anyway, man, I think this has been a great day. A lot of fun. I would agree with that. Yeah, good times.

You should try to do one before we get out of here, Blake? Do what? He wants to see if I'm still... I want to get a good one. Greg Shiano. Oh, we're doing Kempspins? I mean, the only one I have for you on that is the... The Nielbound plays.

Yeah, where he was trying to have guys... His team would blast the center when they were doing Niels. Yeah. They're like, you can't do that. That's a great one. That is a good one. Way to make it football, Blake. Adios.

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