The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 8-4-25 | Dallas Cowboys and Micah Parsons drama with Charles Haley

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneThe Micah Parsons continued to unravel online which featured mentions of Dez, Jay-Z, and Nicki Minaj. Charles Haley joins us in studio to break it all down and Clayton got to meet Angelo (00:00) - Open: Weekend check (41:40) - Sports: From Micah Parsons to Nicki Minaj (01:24:26) - Charles Haley live in studio (01:59:55) - News: Who is Matt Rife? (02:13:18) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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You said it. Otherwise, I'd like to bow down to Charles Haley. Don't do it. Y'all have been kissing my butt all day. And we're off. We're recording live to tape and broadcasting live to the world on YouTube. Have you heard of it? This little kid I lived with in Spain when I was over there called it Utoobay.

Oh yeah? That's what I've always... It sounds a little zestier. Sounds like the kid I lived with. Beto, actually. He loved the Batliss with of course John, Paul, George and Ringo. That's how you pronounce it? Look at it. The Batliss. The Batliss. The Beatliss. Batliss. Anyway, I'm Dan McCall. I'm Jake Kempf. I'm Blake Jones.

Look at him. He's here. We have Clayton CK, Foody CK here as well. We're in our Game Day Men's Health Studios. Game Day back at home. That's Ty Cesarone hot today. That's right. Ty Cesarone, Cesarone, whatever the f*** it is.

Yeah, man. Ty Cesarone, whatever the f*** it is. Yeah, man. Because he, that voice, got 10% off his TRT for life because he just mentioned the dumb zone when he went to Game Day Men's Health. And, uh, the guy looks like Jake now.

You look great, dude. But you're not the focus here. The focus is Blake Jones. You look great, Dave. Thanks, bro. But you're not the focus here. The focus is Blake Jones. Why? You're having a kid, like, tomorrow. Like, it's now happening. I'm not doing anything.

Well, you got to go there, right? Or are you just dropping her off? Blake has a lot of scene control. Little daycare program. How south of the equator were you for delivery one I think I just did a little flyover and said okay going you know take a trip to Patagonia this time and that's Southern Pole I don't know probably not you're probably not gonna well you may do this again yeah hey you never know with your Superman sperm I've had people send me their wives no to

impregnate oh yeah give me a boy bro no but we could probably work something else with power if you're interested but no just how to have a girl because that's gonna be next yeah yeah let's well then I'll go to the wives' tale. Well then I'll go over there. You can come over and give me a boy and I'll go give you a girl. Oh, excuse me. A little mishit there. We have sit-ins. But yeah, Blake's so having that kid. We've been kind of waiting.

Like, oh my god, is it tonight? Is he going to call it? Well, now we don't have to wait anymore. We know it is tomorrow. Isn't it wonderful? Apparently they have a procedure where they just kind of like, is it a big suction thing where they suck it out?

No, no, the new way is, they just push on the belly, like sit on the belly, they get a big fat guy. And it helps if you do have another child, but they have her lay there, and as a family, you simply jump on her. Yeah, okay. Until it just, boop, boop.

Like a little trampoline. Trampoline. Exactly. We do have a student. It it just like up and like a little trampling. Exactly. Do you have a time? We go in at 730 in the morning. It feels almost late. That's nice. So is it a long labor? Same thing? You kind of don't know how many hours you'll be there? I think the first time she went for like 16 hours or something. Jesus. Ridiculous. This shouldn't be that long. That's what people say. The next one doesn't take that long. That's what people say. The next one doesn't take as long. But can we call you and-

You're on their stuga at that point. Yeah. Can we have you out? Didn't we talk to her when she was in labor last time? Yeah, she wasn't thrilled about that. Oh, but it was fun. It was fun for me. And look, everything has worked out fine.

So you should have her do it again. Yeah, we will. Cowboys, executive producer. That doesn't happen without putting your in-labor wife on the phone. That's true. Is she gonna try to, cause I know she's like leaning Pyrex over plastic.

Is there like a resistance to the epidural this time? No. Is she gonna be in like a pool? Cause I feel like that's the real ma-ha, like litmus test. The water birth. Oh, red dye is bad. I don't want plastic in my house.

And then they're like, well. Yeah, I'll take that epidural though. She has some family members and friends that want to do an all natural birth. And she's just like, okay, we'll see how long into it you change your mind and then they pump you full of fentanyl. Yeah. Yeah. Hi Stephanie. Yes, in studio.

Her name is the one on the document. We have Stephanie Stokes in studio. Sounds like a WNBA player, doesn't it? Kind of does. And she brought some dude. We can only assume this is her husband, she has emailed a couple of times in the past. It's worth noting they do look like siblings. Always on a birthday. They do both have reddish hair, probably some freckles, and you never know. Big ups to Dan for no carpet drapes joke right

there. Come on, I've grown so much over the past five years and you're not recognizing it. So one of the email, she's emailed twice. It's both times been for her husband's birthday. Cool. This is how much she loves Chuck. First time she attached a bikini photo. Hey now.

That's right. And the second time she attached another photo which I gave to Clayton that we could show you right now. He said she said it's my husband Chuck's Lucas minus Steph birthday. He's a day two subbie. Now Chuck has emailed us before and claimed to be a day one. So we'll see. There may be extenuating circumstances based on time zone. He is our subby from the United Arab Emirates. Damn.

Still looking for the 9-11 Memorial. Ha ha ha! Blake had his stop in Haskell. That's awesome. I talked there for a year and I can confirm Chief Tonka is a thing. Oh my goodness. Aye, aye, aye, that's.

Not sure if they still do it, but when I was there, they built a teepee and banged a drum for 24 hours around homecoming. Here's the picture for reference. Wow. What is Chief Tonka? What is that? I don't know.

Just some Indian. There was a wrestler. That was like their mascot? Cowboys have Rowdy, they have Chief Tonka. Yeah, they have Chief Tonka. There was a- What is their name? What is Haskell what? The Indians. The Indians, yes.

Oh, they're the Indians, I'm sorry. No, no, I think it could have been Braves or anything. They could have been the Eagles and gone with this mascot in Texas. That's the scariest, that's scarier than it is racist. That's terrifying. Like, what is he? But this is great though, Dad, because-

Yeah, it's not fun, like, chief Wahoo's fun. Right. That's fun racism. The UAE, hot topic on the show lately. Yeah, it's like Arabs and stuff, right? Sand, got a lot of sand out there they are you know oil big time money You guys rich?

I'm not oh, we're not at all. You're just around the rich. Yes Do you have to like cover your wife up totally or dad? She's sending bikini? I was a whole day remember when I used to be able to do the firewall There any UAE. It's actually kind of nice. It's really laid back, low key. You have to actually seek out the really hard line where you got to dress up and everything. You kind of have to seek that out. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, it's actually real nice over there.

Can't complain too much. Now they do have some wild stuff. Like I think I sent him, uh, uh, the other day I sent him a news link where if you do the wrong things on social media, you'll get like banned from. We did that story. We did that story. A guy was just sending harassing messages on WhatsApp. Yeah.

I think. And they just said, you, you can't use the internet ever again. And also you can get off of Google review too. What's that? Google reviews too. They've done that to people that have sent negative Google reviews saying it's disparagement. Yeah.

They have something in common with our former employers with a broad idea of what is criticism. But how is it for you? You don't have to cover up, obviously, if you're not. It's totally fine. In the mornings you go out, it's mostly Westerners. In the early mornings, late at night, it's when the locals come out more.

And the mornings you see women in shorts and sports bra running around. Oh, hell yeah. Jeez. But, man. Was I talking out loud? I want to be clear here. I think you have expressed an interest

in both Indians and Persians. I don't feel like there are a ton of those in the UAE. Plans of Indians. Indians, okay, I know nothing. Mostly Indian? It's 90% expat over there. Wow, I did not know that. That's where Chief Tonka went.

Yes. Yeah. That's right. Well, that's crazy. I wanna learn all about this throughout the show. That seems pretty vague. I mean, I could talk to him about it forever. No, we'll do it at the end of the show, because we have a big program.

Are we allowed to say where he works? Or no, you don't want that. Oh, yeah, you could do that. He works for Raytheon, a military contractor. Like, this guy's done, he's basically lived in the box for 20 years. I could talk to him all day, but. But we have a program to do.

We have Charles Haley is coming in later. Yes he is. And that's where you never know what's going to happen when Charles Haley comes in. He will promote some charity stuff. But then he, who will he fight? Will it be me? That's happened.

Will it be Jake? That's happened. Maybe today it'll be fighting Blake or maybe Chuck. Maybe Chuck can give him a run. We're getting a little older. But Charles Haley will be here too. And really I want to get to Cowboys stuff. I'm really excited about the just I can't even believe what's going on. So let's do a quick weekend check. Let's have it brought to us by a brand new sponsor. Ladies and gentlemen, Window Nation DFW is our new sponsor.

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Upgrade your vehicles before Charles Haley takes you out at window nation Com all right Happy to have the new sponsor so we got a weekend check I'll go first very quick for me because like I said I want to get on to Really there's a lot of good cowboy stuff today, and then we got Charles Haley One thing I forgot, errors and omissions or whatever from Friday, I was trying to remember, remember the good soldier that cowboy,

I said he had an injury, magically healed when he finally got his conscious, it was Greg Ellis. You remember that name? Do I remember that name? Of course. But anyway, he was always thought to be team first, big leader, all this, but all of a sudden, he had a sore back, much like Mic Micah we'll be getting into that later and then all

then he got that new contract he wanted and all of a sudden he's back out on the field it's amazing how this works. Wasn't there somebody I norm really hated Kyle Orton do you remember that? You have to Blake. The one year Kyle Orton was a cowboy yeah Norm was mad because he had retired and unretired, he would only come back for money or something, but there was another guy who did something like that, similar to Ellis, and Norm would never let that go. Hell, it might have been Dez.

Didn't Dez play around with the surgery once? Like, oh, maybe I need it, maybe I don't. I don't know, well, we'll be getting into Des later as well. There's so much going on. So the other thing I did was I packed for camp. I am totally ready. If we had to go to camp tomorrow morning, I could get on that plane.

You almost missed it. What do you mean? You're only four days early. Yeah. The thing is, now I just have to add one or two little things along the way. But I have my seven black shirts and my seven pairs of shorts that look exactly the same and my sleeping shirts

and my sleeping socks. I got to have white socks to wear around the house at night. And then I have my black socks for during the day. And totally packed. And I got it all into with a blanket the carry-on luggage size nice for seven days my family will introduce a human being to this planet in the time that you have been packed yeah and I'll still have time to pack I got a lot going on dude. You don't have anything going on. Yeah, I have not thought about the trip at all.

World win week. We had a relatively chill weekend though. Friday night I went to dinner and I ran into the guy who hired me at the ticket, Rich Phillips. Oh wow. Got to give him a big hug. Did you eat at Texas Motor Speedway? Yeah, they're Tex-Mex annex. Oh wow. Got to give him a big hug. Did you eat at Texas Motor Speedway? I... Ha ha ha!

Uh, yeah, they're Tex-Mex Annex. Was it a barbecue place? It was not. It was, it was in fact a Tex-Mex restaurant. Um, now, I did not know that his... Gravy R.S. So, it was, it was not the Gravy Emporium. We're just doing fine.

Uh, at that point I didn't know that his former boss was about to show his entire ass to the world, or I would have brought it up to him at that time, but I didn't, so I just shook his hand, hugged him. And then something happened that I need a ruling on, I guess. So I don't like eating diced onions. Like just regular diced onions like that on a taco. I don't like that.

Onions in recipes, grilled onions, but just chopping up onions and putting them on a carne asada taco. I'm not, I don't like it. I like the diced when not cooked. That's basically what it is, and I don't like it. So it's, usually it's just cilantro, onions, and meat. I'm like, can I get it with no onions?

The guy didn't bring them with no onions, whatever. I didn't say anything, but I was also not going to eat them. So I- Were you with your wife? Yeah, and another couple. Because generally, my wife will take over. Like she'll say, like I'll kind of complain to her lightly knowing she has an inner Karen that will come out and she can release it at various levels

Yeah, like it might be 50% I'll go 50% here And I think my wife has a little bit of that and I've used her as a bulldog They get older but I think Aaron Increases, but she was like having drinks and talking to her friend. I doubt she realized my order was messed up Okay, I was I was inconsequential She was like having drinks and talking to her friend. I doubt she realized my order was messed up. I was inconsequential. So I didn't say anything, you know, but the guy's coming back over and he's like,

hey, you know, how does your food? And I... Unnecessary. I'm scraping the onions off. So I didn't say, I was like, good, as I was altering the dish that he brought and I wasn't whatever Yeah, and He never addressed it. He came back again and could see the large

mountain of diced onions on my plate and He's like anything else just get the check and I'm like man. This is whatever That is better than the guy, well, maybe. But the guy this weekend, I went to eat with my wife. And I was very hungry. And I ate everything, like everything. And the guy's like, whoa. Oh my god.

Somebody's hungry today. Oh my god. What'd you like? You love that? You like that? You get what you wanted? So I'm getting penalized here for eating every piece of rice. Yeah, I got the last piece of rice.

Come over and pat you on the belly. Yeah. Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, so where were we with that? He's diced onions at the end of the meal now. When they brought the check. Didn't tip him. When they brought the check, my wife had asked for a to-go box.

And when he boxed up her food and brought it back, he was like, hey man, I got you another order of tacos with no onions, with beans and rice. And put it in the? Chips, wrapped it up for you. To-go? Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. Boy, now your tip has just increased, bro. By like double. Yeah. That's awesome. That's the perfect timing. He is running the system perfectly, because he's getting to pocket that much.

Because he knows that you're like kind of seething. Yeah, I wasn't full because when they don't, here's another thing you learn whenever you're not a vegetable guy. And let me tell you something, I'm running on this. Saying I want less vegetables doesn't mean that like you can put, they almost put less meat on it if you ask for no vegetables.

That they look at it like I have to fill this amount with ingredients. Subway does this, drives me crazy. But yeah, so the guy hooked me up. And that was a great day. The only other couple things I have to report are had the family over for birthday yesterday afternoon. That was glorious.

It actually was nice I was I called Dan beforehand he's like this is probably all you ever wanted would you have your family have your four of my parents and two of Kristin's parents over well it actually was I never have to worry about with people living in Ohio right yard Yard sign? Oh my god dude. You get a yard sign? No. Your wife might do it for you. I think she. It's a milestone, I know you don't like round numbers, but lordy lordy. I could see her doing that in conjunction with you guys

as some sort of bit. But outside of that. Should have called it. Outside of that. You ruined us. I don't think that's. As he wakes up and sees that. There's still time. Planted a lot of shrubs over the world. But outside of that, outside of that, I don't think that's a... As he wakes up and sees that.

Uh... There's still time. Planted a lot of shrubs over the weekend, played a lot of soccer. I can confidently tell you that my son at two and a half is more athletic than I was at five. I almost wept yesterday watching him move. Not because he's gonna be special, because he's just not gonna be me. Blake's played with me a lot, he knows. you've played with me a lot, you know. There's something in my brain that doesn't work athletically and I watched

him yesterday and fell to my knees and thought, he's normal. It's not like he's an exceptional athlete. No, he just he knows how to put his feet over one another without falling. Okay. And it's it's really something. He'll be able to throw a ball when he's 39 years old. I think so. Without needing a series of YouTube pages and lessons. And then I'm gonna leave you my Week in Check

with a little piece of audio that I found right before the show, so we'll check this. Blake, do you think I can try? We can always try. He's already thrown 103 pitches tonight. Gets to air out a few more on the mound. OK, this is what I thought it was. This is from last week.

This is Rangers Angels. And we know Dave Raymond likes to have a little fun. He'll work in a nice. If a player is at a 69 game, whatever. Or he's doing bits. The Angels have a pitcher named, you say, Kikuchi. His last name is Kikuchi. Now, what I gather is this particular starting pitcher

got those a lot of pitches because I actually didn't watch this game live. It was in LA, it was late, this particular starting pitcher got those a lot of pitches because I actually didn't watch this game live. It was in LA, it was late, and he was at like 109 pitches headed into the fifth. And so he's also Japanese, so they have to send a translator out there when they go with the manager.

It was a big scene, and I think Dave thought, this is my chance. Rally houses. In is affected a little bit. Who's already thrown 103 pitches tonight, gets to air out a few more on the mound. When he picked Lankford off and there was the longer view, he threw like eight warmup pitches while we were waiting for that one too.

Yeah, well, he's got a rubber arm. Two balls, two strikes on Smitty and he'll take Lone away. Full count. The angels have hung around the five hundred mark this year. It just. Haven't been able to really get

a big run started. But they've been better I think that a lot of people do to Smith and he lines out to right field that. haven't been able to really get a big run started but they've been better I think that a lot of people do to Smith and he lines out to right field that I screwed this up it's here somewhere we just listening to generic no no no good weekend check you know it. I have it. I'm just not going to put you guys through that again. After the break. You check it out during the break.

I know it's right here. One out six. Or do it. Just go back. Listen while Blake's telling his weekend check. It's that important to me. OK. Or Clayton, who's up?

Who wants the ball? I'll go. Plan the trip food-wise for Friday with Matt to California. Clayton and Matt Grimm, Matt Dallas, are driving in a smaller vehicle. We do not need the RV to broadcast from. We will be broadcasting from the tent all week. So Clayton and Matt are driving out all the equipment. That way Clayton will feel confident that the equipment is actually there. Very concerned.

Have we really highlighted to the listener the difference between this year and last year? Like that the Cowboys were way more accommodating this year now that we've kind of proved that we can behave? Proof of concept. God, you love it and I love that you love it. Yeah. Like last year, we needed the RV to do the show.

Yeah, yeah. We did most shows out in the parking lot and one show from inside at the tent. Right, which is what you would normally do in radio. Yeah. And so it's going to be great. I'm looking forward to it. Really, like I said, I want, on Friday,

you and I are going to clink two seafood burritos together and laugh maniacally. And then I'll get back to the room real early because I'm gonna go to bed on Texas time. I love it. We're gonna see if I can. Anyway, so Clayton and Matt Grim are driving this hallway. And this is the dedication Clayton has to the show,

because he wants to make sure he's got that equipment there, he's there on time, and it is all set up and ready to roll Monday. Yeah, but I was worried because Friday is Water Burger Day. Eight-eight. Eight-eight. The 75 cent Water Burgers and- On the 75th anniversary, yeah.

Yeah, they're doing free breakfast items every Friday and oh So you can get a free honey butter chicken biscuit a free taquito or a breakfast on a bun No purchase necessary. Just go enjoy a free water burger breakfast So I'm gonna enjoy adding a free item to the other three items that I was always But yeah, but yeah. But yeah, so I just wanted to make sure that, you know, we had a water burger in New Mexico and or Amarillo that we could stop at on the way out there.

You've scouted that. I scouted the hell out of water burgers between here and California. It may take us seven extra hours to get to California, but you know what? What time are y'all leaving? Matt has decided to leave when Matt wants to leave and I'm just going with him. I'm showing up after the show Thursday and if he wants to leave then we'll leave then. He wanted to leave at 5 a.m. Thursday and then Clayton was like

I think we determined we don't have to get there that fast. And he wanted to make sure he did the show, got the audio going. Yeah, I want Clayton to launch like, Clayton Kimbrough's TexasBurgers.com. Where he can tell you the breakdown, Big Chains 6A, all the way down to the single A. Let me tell you, Wendy's is under fire right now for their bacon, skimping on bacon on their sandwiches.

Are they? And I've been doing some Sean Rab level investigation. Get to the bottom of it. Track them down. And yeah, things aren't looking good for our pigtail ginger friend. All right, you want me to wrap up by playing this?

Well, we're gonna wrap up with Blake, but we can wrap yours up, man. You found it. One out, six thinning in a one-run game. Actually, this is not it. They are stretching Kikuchi tonight. All right. All right. All right. Okay.

And there's, you know, he quickly, I was listening for a laugh, like he's gonna be laughing, but he realized I need to speak right away. Yeah. They are stretching Kikuchi tonight. He hasn't had much in the way of. He's fighting it right there. Yeah.

And. I wonder if Basick's even aware. Oh my God, dude. These guys are stalked in him alone. I watch so much Rangers now that I just copy. You think Basick's aware of his little bit there? Cause Basick's... Dude.

He's very focused on sports. I know, but even the meathead athlete is like, see if we can figure out a way to say Coochie. Look, his name's Coochie. And listen to the, like just that little devilish, ugh, from Dave Raymond. They are stretching Coochie tonight. Ugh, they are.

Shout out to Dave Raymond. Sorry, guys. I screwed up your weekend check. Jake, have you been up on the Brian Coburger case? The, uh, the, Darren Reed? Oh! The Idaho.

The guy who killed those four students? Yeah, so I almost brought this up on the show whenever it happened year or so ago. The murder? We talked about it, didn't we? I don't remember if we did. But he got sentenced and it's still weird to me that they allow the family members to talk to the accused,

or now the guilty, because they just hammered him. And I don't know, it's just weird that that is still a thing. It feels very medieval. Like we're gonna bring it down to the town square, and then have like the locals with tomatoes, and another thing. So those unfamiliar, Brian Coburg are murdered four university students at University of Idaho

and no connection to these kids at all. This guy is just a straight psychopath. Yeah, he's been, I believe, ruled as such. Yeah, and you can tell, I mean, just sitting there as these people are giving it to him, he's just sitting there straight face, doesn't care at all, and the prosecution is like, you know We'll never know

Like his reasoning for it. It was just random he just Is a weird guy and wanted to kill and he he just chose this house on the campus of Idaho and just so weird But I was caught up in how they caught him because like I don't think it was ring doorbells but it was surveillance around the house saw the same car circle four times on the night of the murders. And then just found out he had the same car and pinged his cell phone

where he turned off his cell phone around the time of the murder. That part was amazing to me. But I just could not believe there's just no connection. This just is a random murder. And yeah, he's going away for a really long time. Yeah. How is that your weekend check?

I don't understand. Just because I remember seeing a couple years ago of like, it's unsolved. Like they don't know who did it, and then they arrest this guy. So it is. He's about to have a kid. No, in a weird way, it's like something you saw two years ago finally.

OK, they got him, he's guilty, he's going away, and it's just all it all kind of comes to a close. He's got one of the creepiest faces of anyone who's ever lived. Because if you watch enough true crime stuff, it's like I wonder what it was like living in the moment of, oh now they've got him, oh now the sentencing, and now the trial. So following all that in real time was cool to me. It's true crime Blake. There's that.

I had two birthday parties this weekend. Ooh, adult or child? Child. One Saturday, one Sunday, which helped kill my weekend. And I'm here to say, if you're a DF and you invite me to your kid's birthday party, I'll probably go. Because Sunday I went to Travis Gafford's.

That's added value right there. Travis Gafford's kid's birthday party? One year old's, yeah, party. By the way, to prove it. So he just knows you have's birthday party? One year old's, yeah. By the way, to prove it. So he just knows you have a two year old and he's like, yeah, okay. Well, I've said this before. Some subbies know I'm dying for anything to do

with Brooks out of the house. And so. You'll go to a random listener's house. I went to a rugby party two weekends ago with Brooks, with James Crowley, because he invited me and they had a water slide. So Travis said, hey, we got a pool, a birthday party, pizza and cupcakes, you're welcome to come by.

So I drove an hour to Fort Worth, and we went to his kid's birthday party. Okay. I respect the grind. So Blake's not available, like you're not even, this isn't like Rowdy, that you have to pay 500 bucks or whatever to have Rowdy, or Mavs Man. This is Blake, you'll just go.

Give me entertainment for my kid and maybe some food. That's it. And I'll be there. Okay. Yeah. So laying that out there. How's Travis Gafferge place? I bet it's really nice and air conditioned.

He had it, yeah. His HOA has like a pool, like a community pool and like a little pavilion area. Dude, I wish we had that. Yeah, that's cool. Cause then I wouldn a has a pool like a community pool and like a little pavilion area. He was I wish we had that Yeah, that's cool. Cuz then I wouldn't have a pool Yeah Ah, what a beating dude, but you can't I feel like right now this weekend I crushed over crossed over the line where I'll never regret having a pool

Right, yeah, that's fine. I'm I'm getting enough value now that it's like, dude, this is insane. I had, I got great value. You're doing yard work? It was every day for- 110? Wow, into the pool. Like a decade. Yeah. But now it's just, it looks nice. But you gotta be thinking about how much money you're saving on that front end, man. Okay. the, I mean I got. But like I just said, he just said he had an HOA with a pool. Yeah, that's free. Splash pad's like $4, so I should, I guess, it's more convenience than anything.

But it did kill a lot of time. So while you were out, Soroy said it's acceptable to jump in the pool to replace a shower for the day. Are you in agreeance with that? Never. I had to get the chlorine off, you know? Oh, I thought it was insane, but everybody in here looked at me like I was you know? Oh, I thought it was insane, but everybody in here

looked at me like I was uppity. No. I love it. Makes you feel clean. You do that? That'll be your shower? Yeah, when I lived with my parents at home, yeah. Okay.

I was 19. It's also- Oh, well when I was 19, I don't know. It's also tougher for me. There's never been a point where I thought, I got out of the pool, I'm clean. But it's definitely tougher for me, there's never been a point where I thought I got out of the pool, I'm clean. But it's definitely tougher now because my son, rather than going to the bathroom,

will open the door and walk to the edge of the pool and piss in it now. Awesome. Because he thinks it's funny. Like one time he pulled down his pants and I was like, dude, don't go on the concrete. He was like starting to pee on the concrete. I'm like, just go in the pool. I think I'd rather have concrete and

Now how about grass? Well, we were teaching this kid we were far from grass because they have turf in the back No, no, you can pee in the turf. We just weren't close to the turf but about what about the 22nd walk in the house There's something about peeing outside man. Yeah Yeah. It's not that, it's that- It is a bonding thing, probably, with the man and his son.

That's huge. But he doesn't, it's been a while since he's seen a toddler try to walk with their shorts or underwear or diaper around their ankles. They can't do it. Yeah. They can't take it off. They suck.

It's a lot of trust for him to hit the bowl. So it's just easier to go outside, pee wherever you want. You hit the bowl with your kid? Hell yeah, bro. One day. I hit time number six at Chuck E. Cheese. Oh, fantastic. Which means I'm now at $10 per visit,

which is exactly half of the cost of the monthly pass. So I think I'm in the green now. We just need a cash register drop for every time Blake mentions one of his schemes. And I now know the time that Chuck E. Cheese walks out for the birthday parties. So I go for that, because Brooks loves seeing him walk out.

It's a birthday every week. Birthday every week for Brooks. I can tell the ethnicity of the person in the mascot now. How? Because they do a dance, and I can tell the ethnicity of the person in the mascot now. How? Because they do a dance and I can tell the one I saw yesterday was just perfectly on beat he had the moves. I know who was under there. Okay. Other locations I can tell. This is an old dude. He doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah. Get more of a tweaky, tweaky Chuck E Cheese little white tweaky. And then, so today I had to meet up with Angelo this morning because he'd lost another card.

This is the one you told us about last week, right? Yeah, so I said, I'll be out the rest of the week. You gotta meet me Monday. I know there was a fire on the Dart train last week, but somehow find your way downtown. And so I come in here, I drop my stuff, and I told Clayton I'm gonna go give my card, give this card to Angelo.

And Clayton said, I wanna meet him. So Clayton and I walked down to Akkard Station, and Clayton got to meet Angelo. Yeah, that's an interesting play. I have no desire to ever have the mystery shattered for me. None. What are your thoughts? He instantly asked me if I had anything for him.

So I had given him the Venmo card, and I said, this is my buddy Clayton, and he said, oh, does he have a card for me too? Ah! No, it's just me. Always be closing. It's just me. And so then I had the Water Burger gift cards that Seen gave me to give to him.

And he's like, how much are on these? I said, I think that's $15 each. And he said, thousand? I said, no, $15. Little comedy. I wish. Little comedy. Little comedy. And so then he introduced me to his friend

who he said he got him clean clothes and a haircut. And so I think our network is spreading. I think other homeless see that now Angelo has got a little bit of cash and they're after him. Yeah, he's a sugar daddy. Yeah, so we got a little bit of cash and they're after him. Yeah, he's a sugar daddy. Yeah, so we got a little bit of a trickle down thing here. This is just an economy. So he introduced me to his friend,

face tattoos, really tattered. Don't need to judge. I'm just painting the picture. It is kind of interesting somebody that needs money would spend the money on it, although maybe the tattoo is not really a top dollar tattoo. Yeah Some of them might have been not his choice So yeah, so then he tells it he tells me that you know

If I have any clean clothes or knows anyone that wants to donate any clean clothes like he's trying to help out some people And he looks at Clayton and he says Although I don't think I could fit in your clothes. Oh my God! That's gonna be right away. Unnecessary. Right away. He's like, your head depth is way too big for me. And he said, he's looking at Clayton shorts,

he's like, see, I don't think I could fit in those. Yeah. I was like, why are you roasting my friend? How presumptuous, like, yeah, you probably were gonna give me the shirt off your back, but you're fat, so you can't. We could use a new tent, though. You could... What a little asshole.

Can he... I couldn't believe he said that. That's mean. I don't know, I... But he doesn't know, like I've said, he doesn't know these, like, social nor... Like, don't know I But he doesn't know like I've said he doesn't know these like social nor like that yeah Don't ask for two apple pies when I'm buying your food. I don't know but so he Impression for Clayton. He has a new card But isn't he about to? Re-up time anyways, he got the other card about a month ago, right? Oh

Yeah, first of the month the amount rolled over so he's got 150 to spend this month. Wow. Talk about capital gains, this guy's killing it. And so my last thing, the latest into Cowboys, because this is the lamest thing I think I've seen in a long time, and it came from our quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, because we all remember the couple

or maybe you just had a really lame dude friend that would comment, they would comment to each other on their Facebook profiles. So like the girl would say, had a great weekend with my boyfriend, I love him and miss him so much. Then the boyfriend would comment, oh, I love you too, babe, I can't wait to see you again.

It's probably the gayest thing I think I've ever seen and I've definitely done it. I don't know that I really ever did and I did have inner relationship for about a week and then I met Bob and Dan and I got that changed quickly. Well our quarterback did on- You just got off Facebook totally. That was like 15 years ago.

Dak did it on Instagram, throw out the picture. Just so you see, the caption from Sarah Jane, happy birthday to my person, the best in every way possible. I couldn't love you more and I cannot wait to be your wife. Top comment from underscore four Dac. Thank you my lover, you make me better and so thankful for what you give me in life. I love you and I can't count the exclamation marks.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. It was liked by Obs. He's a good dude though, good teammate. Yeah, I don't love it, but. Kirk Cousins isn't doing that. No, he is. That's the problem. He just might not even know what Instagram is.

Yeah, he might not be on social media. But he's got the rubber ring. That's worse. He's throwing football. Dude, listen, I'll allow a lot on the DAC front here, but we're not gonna put him below Kurt Cousins. Yeah, we are. What are we doing?

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What happened? I have no idea where to start here. Ha ha ha. So Friday, it was during the show, right? It was. Mm-hmm. So beginning of the show, it was during the show, right? It was. Mm-hmm. So, beginning of the show, it was like, oh, Diana Rossini has this story that,

co-authored by Machoda in The Athletic, that Micah's people are getting real perturbed and they may do something drastic here. And I was just thinking, okay, whatever. This is agents just trying to drop a little something to you know we're negotiating in the media Jerry's been doing it so now the agent will do it through a reporter we'll just we'll ride this for like a week or so and then something will happen next week and I

agree I do want to say it did feel like an escalation but maybe that's just natural like he was doing more than CD and like Zack Martin had done by actually just seemed like it's just a lot of blowhardness whatever and then yeah and then Micah drops a thank you Dallas like hey goodbye to Dallas tweet where he's you know kind of saying Jerry you Dallas, a tweet where he's kind of saying, Jerry, misrepresented. He's naming names. He's spilling tea.

I think the difference between this and before isn't just the request. It is the specificity of it. And he's making very direct claims. And Jerry then had to very directly refute them. Right. So then, yes, now that's where we get, we have Jerry audio, because Jerry talking to the media. We have somehow that turned into Jerry versus Jay-Z. That reading about that.

And then somehow because of Jerry and then Jerry versus Jay-Z, Dez jumps in and somehow that is morphed into Dez versus Nicki Minaj. Yeah. And- It's a great match. We all, not one of us is thinking, how's this first year head coach? I forgot Schottenheimer is the head coach. Perhaps the goal.

I forgot that Hunter Lipke is looking good and he's lining up at tight end and all these other different places. I forgot who's the, is it Raku? Do I pronounce that correctly? That he's kinda kickin' ass they say so far. But I'm not even thinking about anything with the team. How could you when Nicki Minaj has gifts to post

and images of Jerry Jones in front of that high school in Little Rock to blast her. Really? Yeah. Is she doing that? I didn't see that. Man, I'm pretty sure there's a lot, yeah. There's a lot going on.

We should probably go in order, right? Like, you wanna start with Jerry? Well, I think you even start with Micah because we just know that the basic disagreement is they had a meeting back in March and I saw a David Moore report that Micah initiated that. That's the only place I've seen it described as one or the other, but we'll go with that.

So Micah reached out, said he wanted a meeting with Jerry to talk about, and the idea was gonna be they were gonna talk about leadership, which I guess does make sense. Like Micah's getting to that point of his career, DeMarcus Lawrence just left, other side of the ball, Zach Martin. So you're talking about key veteran pieces leaving.

You know by how much they're shading Trayvon Diggs right now that they expect guys to step up and be leaders if they're shading Trayvon Diggs right now, that they expect guys to step up and be leaders if they're paying him. So I think that's like a legitimate expectation Micah had that that's what they were going to talk about. And according to Micah, they did, and then the conversation turned to his contract

and what he wanted out of it. He says he completed that conversation kinda with like, oh, good, you know, bet my agent will call you. And when the agent called and talked to a representative for the Cowboys, that representative said, that deal's done, we have a deal. It's, when do you want to sign it? So now-

So this is different than DeMarcus Lawrence. They were actually going back- They were low-balling. Yeah, with back and forth with figures. Then he did meet with Jerry. He said, go get your dad. He actually said that to the public. Like, I told him, go get your dad.

They did get together. They came to an agreement. And then, of course, the agent and Steven then did the dot of the eyes and stuff. This feels, there is, normally it's just water under the bridge, bygones are bygones, money makes pain go away for the player, they kind of grin and bear it and carry a little resentment.

Like, you see what CD's doing this year, where he's like, yeah, you know, it screwed my season last year. They'll carry that, but once they get paid, you know, it kind of heals. It's shocking to me that we're having to tell them that Micah's different. Like I've sat across from him a total of 10 minutes in my life and I can tell you he's different. I feel like he always has that

feeling as I wrote it in the piece this morning. I feel like he always kind of has that there's a huge red button over there and his hands like hovering over it to freak you out. And he's just like, what are you gonna do? He knows that he's very smart and that he doesn't need the Cowboys for shit. I think Dak kind of did in both of his negotiations because he's not Patrick Mahomes, he's the Cowboys quarterback though.

He's not the best of the best. Yeah, I don't know though, being a quarterback, that's where I wanted to look at Dak versus Micah here. Because I feel like Dak kind of did it right. Dak knows what Kirk Cousins got. If he's on the open market, think of it, Kirk Cousins. Even if, when Kirk Cousins signed it, you would not have been excited about signing Kirk Cousins. But there's going to be five or ten teams out there that would be very excited.

Because if you've been in the I can't find a guy that is proven to be even you know top 15 would be dicked around by his team so Dak knew if I go out there I'll get 60 million a year guarantee or whatever 50 million a year whatever he ends up getting maybe Dak is a bad example but but I do think like if you think about like Dez since Dez has been coming up in this deal, I never thought Dez was going to leave. I think Dez knew I have to be here. This is my support system,

this is the ecosystem where I grew up. You look what happened when he tried to leave. Now there was a number of other things going on. But, see that's- Zeke, I feel like needed to be here. But that's the way, Micah has always painted himself. He even said it in the media, like, I will sign a below market deal.

Yeah, and he may still do that. Here's what I think. He doesn't need them at all. He's a brand beyond them now. He doesn't, but I think that he's handled this all wrong and that he, and I don't want to side on management and everything, but I feel like he puts that out there and then his agent goes behind closed doors and says the exact opposite.

I do think you're right about that. Because I think he's got a baller agent that's looking for every angle. And he's smart enough to see how the Cowboys have dealt with other players and what needs to be done. And that's what's going on here. And so, yeah, Micah to the press is like, Yeah, I'd love to take a below market deal as long as we can win. That's all I want to do is win. And then his agent gets behind closed doors and it's like, Yeah, okay, whatever.

Anyway, you want us to, should we wait and see if Miles Garrett signs? Should we wait? Like, he's thinking of the exact way to, you know, he's got to show other clients that I'm going to get every last dollar I can for you. So I kind of think. Yeah, I think I think the cowboys are getting mixed. I'll bet you the cowboys are getting mixed messages. I'll bet you with Jerry, there was some parameters of a deal talked about, and I'll bet you that agent is like, none of that matters at all, what they said, because what matters is the bottom line. And here's what else I think about this, is that now the Cowboys have never proven that they will ride this out, but they are in the better negotiating spot right now, because Micah's contract is not up. And they can slap a franchise tag on him for a couple of years before it gets too out of

control to actually be able to. So Dak played it right and said, OK, slap the franchise tag on me. It's going to be great because then I'm going to be paid top, like, whatever happens, the franchise tag is life-changing money. It's going to pay for your kids, grandkids, colleges, and all that kind of stuff, if you don't live too big, right? You don't have to be Mark Colombo or anything, but you see the guy that used to just mow his lawn in Louisville and a nice little $275,000? Doug Free. Okay, but you see what I'm saying. I really think at this time doing it so early

and dropping the bomb of I wanna trade now, it seems ahead of time to me. I don't think he's even really negotiating. I think he's fucking around. Micah? Yeah. I think he's like, well, these guys like to talk a lot. You know, last week they're bringing up his injury.

That's a major F around though. What are they gonna do? They're either gonna, I mean, nothing is going to change. I think he is like, he sees that they like to play a little PR game and I think part of the reason they do it, maybe the creating buzz thing, but I think also they just have like this paternalistic you will kneel before me attitude. I don't care. The cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. And they can. And I think he's just like, oh yeah, well, maybe I don't care. The cowboys. Yeah. And they can.

And I think he's just like, oh yeah, well, maybe I'm gonna make it hard for you. They do it publicly. But I think that Mike, like the reason Dak did it right is he didn't say anything. He's like, hey, my guys are taking care of it. Now he got a little colorful at camp last year, if you remember.

He was willing to say a lot more than he ever did before. I forgot about that. Don't, Dak. But he also, you know, it was just kind of like. He was like, oh, maybe I play some roles. Underhanded, passive aggressive. Yeah, it was, but he knew in the end it's all going to work out and it did. He was also practicing.

And he was practicing. That's what Micah should be doing. Micah should be practicing. He should be like, hey, my guys are going to deal with it. But like you said, Micah is a different person. He is not Dak. Because he should just sit, ride it out, and look at what's going to happen at the end.

Like three years from now, if he signs the top, they might be making $45 million a year by then. So just sit back and wait. Because like her cousins, it all worked great for Kirk cousins. Yeah, I mean you're there is the injury factor, right? I mean sure but left out there play You know, there's injury factor the first couple years of a career to like no, I know It's just a very weird labor situation where their contracts are not guaranteed But it's the most dangerous game,

but you have to get a second contract. That's what it's all about, get to that second contract. And the only tool you have to apply pressure is kind of holding out just to piss your team off because it's a headache. And I think the Cowboys make it a little bit more of a headache for the player. And I think Mike is just like, I want to play too. And the crazy thing is, we little bit more of a headache for the player and I think Micah's just like, I wanna play too.

And the crazy thing is, we'll play some of this audio. I don't know if you've seen the picture, someone from the Star Telegram I think took it. It's just the tower, the coaching tower out at training camp where you've got, at the up top you've got Steven Jones and a bunch of his family members and staff members. And then down at field level, on the left,

you have Trayvon and Micah sitting there together, kind of hiding, you know, like tucked away in a corner. And on the other end, you have Jerry and Will McClay over there, kind of tucked away hiding. And you know, maybe it's dramatic, but these people are all just talking shit about each other 15 yards, 20 yards away from each other. Like Jerry's standing there saying,

he's being asked this question with Micah kind of walking behind him. Oh, am I up? Oh yeah, we didn't communicate that well. Jerry, are you considering trading Micah Parsons? Well, let's put it like this. Micah's like pretty close, right there. They're all there, let's put it like this. Mike is like pretty close right there. They're all there. Trayvon's there. They,

when they're talking about finding him, they're like Trayvon's lazy. He needs to get, he needs to get here. He's just like, he just over there like on the jug machine, like what? It's a very odd, odd dynamic. Um, and Jerry said a lot of nothing, but we can get to a little bit of it here. Do you think this relationship is salvageable? Already trouble, I would say,

because Jerry's actually having to think about that. And that's really what I think this comes down to is when it's all said and done at the end, is there any net negative or positive effect? And it's hard for me to think that doing it this way with no benefit to your roster management, no benefit to your cap, what is the benefit? Because we all know how it's going to end.

It's just, it doesn't, I don't, I don't see the benefit. Do you think this relationship is salvageable? I think the relationship is what it is. Oh man, he goes on a little bit here, but... I heard he said he views this trade demand or trade request just like he views an injury report of a sore back. Yes, he did say that multiple times. Let me see if I can pull you up here. Which just means Micah is out right now with a sore back. And he's kind of saying, well, when he gets paid, that back won't be sore like Greg Ellis. And that's just a part of negotiation. Would you ever consider trading Mike? Again, I don't really place that with any real seriousness.

You know, Mike has got a bad back. That's like being traded. Did the request. I mean, if I'm Micah, I don't love that, you know? But that's the truth, Jerry's right. Yeah. That's the, he gets it. And see now, this is where Dak did it right, because he never publicly pantsed Jerry.

Jerry doesn't wanna be publicly pantsed. He doesn't want it. He like Micah throwing that trade thing out. If there was a chance he signs his contract this week, it's now out the door. You think because you think they need more time to save face. Yeah, because now it looks like, oh, all you have to do if you're a star players tweet that you want out and then I'm going to sign you. No, that's not the way it works. You're under contract. You're under contract for the full year.

And I could franchise you for a couple years after that. So how about you get to work? The problem is that the Cowboys in the past have always caved. Now, the Cowboys of the past also didn't have this Jerry, who I think is kind of even more realizing he's at the end of the road and just trying to soak it all in and enjoy everything. I think he really thought that team with Zeke had a very good Super Bowl chance. I don't think they believe this team does. And they shouldn't. really thought that team with Zeke had a very good Super Bowl chance, I don't think they believe this team does.

And they shouldn't. I think they're more realistic about this team. I think you're crazy. I don't know. I don't think they go trade for George Pickens right now if they don't think like, hey, this is it. Because he's not going to be here next. I mean, I guess he could be, but it's hard to imagine.

But they also are. I guess that'll be here next. I mean, I guess he could be, but it's hard to imagine. But you know, they also are that. I guess that'll be the key. That's all in for them. I would love, I would love to see though, Micah. The thing is Micah has to leave. I know. To really end and even Micah there now, it's really makes more of a distraction, I would think, for everybody. I think he played, he wanted to go so that he could look like I'm a leadership guy, but now that he's there... And doing this, he's not leadership guy. No, it's so much worse. But if you talk about CD saying last year was tough for him because he wasn't getting

his reps in practice, at least in training camp, what about Micah? How is Matt Eberfluss going to deploy Micah? Micah has been used differently on with his now this is his fourth defensive coordinator. So am I right on that? Was him or third? The point is. Wow. No, he didn't play for Mike Nolan, did he? No. Oh, you're right. His first year was with DQ. So. But yeah. Oh, you're right. His first year was with DQ. So the point is, you know, are we going to use him more? Obviously more as a pass rusher, but how, you know, are we going to deploy him at all as a linebacker anymore? Like, how are we going to work this in? I would think this is pretty important

for Eberfluss to have Micah, to have your, this is the guy you build everything around you know it all yeah i think and dac at least did realize i gotta be out there and practice if i want to be viewed as a leader i have to be on the field and practicing and Micah is now like wait this is my last year what if i get an injury this year uh it's a mess dude dude. Everything's a mess. The contention from Jerry is we talked back then in March and there was a deal. That was the deal. So now they're kind of, and this was in David Moore's tweet too, which to me looked like he had clearly talked to someone from the Jones family and was kind of relaying their message,

which is, is he a man of his word or not? Like framing it that way. Wait, who's saying that? Micah's saying that about Jerry or Jerry's saying that? No, but Jones's message is like, hey, he agreed to this back in March. Is he a man of his word or not? And I think that is a disastrous game to play with HumanBeat.

Not everybody allows you to just say whatever you want about him and then be like, I mean, I know that's how it works Like nationally we see it in politics like hey, this guy's a pedophile and then a month later You're like I'd love to work with you Yeah, but not everybody's like that and I don't know that Jerry and Jerry and Nim can just do this to everyone well, what did Jerry say actually, okay, cuz I have a relatable thing what happened to with us at our old radio station with how this works but I got I got a couple more I

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He did. Like they don't want to get, they would like to do it without these pesky agents. Okay. Knowing all these rule and knowing all these. That's the part of audio I think you need here. Oh, okay. Because he's got a very, I think I understand his analogy here,

but there was a lot of talk on social media. Is the offer you had in March still on the table? What? The deal, the offer. What? It's a great job. What? Is the offer you had in March still on the table?

What? The deal, the offer you had in March, the meeting of the minds, is that still on the table? Micah took it off. He took it off, so that still on the table? Micah took it off. He took it off, so it's not on the table? He took it off. No, he took it off. I'm just saying he took it off.

I'm not, don't put an answer there, please. He took it off. Okay. And because of that, that's why- It's very important. Okay. And because of that, that's why you're like, I don't wanna negotiate with these people right now.

Well, I know that, I know I grew up when mama wouldn't let me do something going to daddy and daddy let me do it and going back in saying to mama daddy said I could do it. That old mama daddy stuff, we got here doing that by nature. So we're not gonna do that. You're not gonna do that. So my first thought was that Micah's the kid,

and that Jerry's the, like let's say the daddy and the agent is the mommy because he's like, oh, you know, I go talk to my dad and it's like, oh, we're just talking about this and that and you're like, all right, cool. And then you're like, well, that's not really wanted, so I go to Mom. But there's also a scenario where Jerry's the child because he just wants to talk to Micah, who's dad here,

because he knows he's like, he can talk to him. He'll actually work with me a little bit. Don't call Mom, because she's just a bitch. She's pressing me for all these details about where I'm going. I'm just gonna go to dad and kind of do the cool flyby. Yeah, Mike is the dad, because he's like, I'm good with this deal here.

And then mom says, no, you can't do that. Well, that's what dad said. I don't know. That's silly, but. It actually got me thinking more than I would like. But that's his thing on the agent is. And that plus the Jay-Z thing. Well, hold on on that.

I just wanted to say the agent thing is something that I totally lived through, which is very, very real. And have been told agents just screw things up and buy the boss at the ticket where we worked, and was legit told, like, he would absolutely go around the agent to try to talk to us, and we would say, we just don't feel comfortable with this because we work with you on a day-to-day basis, and we want to have a good relationship going forward. So we understand these things can get a little contentious or whatever. So we're paying this guy and

we want him and he does this thing. You do this for a living. You have everybody at The Wolf, everybody at all these other radio stations. You do contract negotiations all the time. This isn't a big deal for you. For me, or luckily for us, it was like every five years. Started out every one year, then every two years, then it was every five years. Once things are going well, we'll give you a five year deal. Okay, but that means once every five years we're going through this. I don't know how to do it. Like, if you're weathered and you do something, the 10,000 hour rule, you're going to get good at it, and you're good at it. And that's why another reason we just don't feel good

about it, but you know, come on, I mean, you deal with these agents, you gotta give them a percentage. They're not on a team. And if you give them a percentage of that, I mean, that's gonna be the number anyway, so why would you even use an agent? And shouldn't you think about your family? Like that was a big thing too, your family.

And then I start to think of two little girls and they're playing and we're going in the pool and like. All the, your family. And then I start to think of a two little girls and they're playing and we're going in the pool and like, yeah, man, my family, that's who I care about. And that's that eight fat cat agent. He's just trying to take all this money from me, man. You're right. Like that's what he wanted us to think. And so that's kind of, and that's the thing with these players too. Although Micah is one of the more knowledgeable players of how this stuff

works, but they want to, yeah, if I can get a verbal deal with you and then we deal with the agent, knows the ins and outs of everything. Like that's a very intricate, well the part that you're also not, NFLPA agreement. The part that you're not mentioning here, and you always had the best analogy, was like, not to make this all tickety, but when I first was told I was gonna be put under contract, typically, if you were a real hitter, these guys, you were negotiating with Dan Bennett.

But since I was new, for some reason, it was like, you're gonna negotiate with Jeff. Our direct boss, yeah. Yeah, our direct boss. And Dan's deal was always, the manager of a baseball team doesn't go sign the players to contracts. They deal with them every day. Right, Brian Schottenheimer is not doing the contract.

They have a common goal, like, you know, whatever you think of the person or they think of you, you're gonna see each other every day. You need to have a productive working. Well, that's when we got an agent. Especially in creativity spaces, right? that's when we got an agent. Especially in creativity spaces, right? That's when we got an agent, our second or third deal

or whatever it was. Yeah, and you told me that. That's when Pat was negotiating our contract with us and we were like, this isn't right. No, but even if he were awesome. And we had to get an agent. It's just not, it doesn't make sense. Like there's a reason Brian Schottenheimer

is not going over to Micah. He's just there for you. You know the stuff Shottie said about Micah? That's all he should be saying. Hey, I'm here to support him, whatever. So that's the other thing too, is that at every step, it's really just about driving a wedge between you and the things that's not them.

And David Muguleta's gonna be around like a lot longer than Jerry or Steven. You know, he's a Forbes whatever. This is the most powerful agent in the game. Micah has his own brand. He talks a lot already about like, what do you think I'm gonna do whenever I can't get football money?

I just think that not necessarily they've met their match because the rules are very heavily tilted in the Cowboys favor I would more say they've bit off a little more than they can chew here and I the Cowboys have yes And I knew the second he started using Dez's name how this was gonna go see I wonder though second What do you think Dez is like? Oh, probably just let that slide. What does bother me a little bit is It's just it's the year early thing. I know. Like if they were up against,

I'm about to franchise tag you. Well, that's where commonly you will see guys like, I don't like it, but it's the way it is. They picked up his fifth year option right away, right? And this is the fifth year. And so this is part of the game. This is what's in the NFLPA. And so this is part of the game. This is what's in the NFLPA. And...

Can I also note that in that agreement with the players, there is the stip, you know, if you sign the guy early, you could have his cap hit be like $7 million. Right, so no, it's actually better for the team. That's what I'm saying is that even if you don't want a field for Micah, they actually have a reason to do this. Right, it would be a better thing for them to do. They should be forcing Micah to the table. Which also to tell you how Micah knows about how much he knows about the public and the perceptions, he put in his note, hey, I went to him after the third

year and tried to negotiate then. I'm not saying he's making that up. What I am saying, he knows exactly how that's gonna play online because he knows the narrative is these guys wait and it costs some money and it costs some players. He's as online as we are. So he knows. Well and they couldn't do it him then because they were still deeing around with Dak and CD. That's right.

And CD because they waited too long on them. So how do we get to Jay-Z? So Jay-Z was, I don't know his specific title at the time with Roc Nation Sports, but that was the new agency that he was running as part of Roc Nation, I guess, I don't even know, entertainment. But they had branched out into sports. You'd seen this before with Lil Wayne or Master P had

founded agencies. And they got debts. And they signed that 5 for 70 that was done the day before the tag was to be put on him. And at the time, it was kind of novel, because here's Jerry throwing up the rock. And it's cool. He's in the 30, 30, 40, 40, 40, 40 club with a,

like a premier nightclub Jay Z owns up there with Dez and Steven and Jerry. But the point that Jerry makes here is actually kind of a good one. So if you're a must, then why would you not talk to the agent? Since you're a must in the conversation, why would you yourself not talk to the agent? Because the agent, when we have a problem within the team and a player, I don't ever find the agent. He's nowhere to be found, okay? Jay Z said that Michael would make all, not Michael, but

Des would make all meetings, Jay Z and I negotiated the contract We spent hours negotiating the contract Jay Z and he said anybody in my organization is on time So my office used to be on the street corner and I've always been early So they will be on time. I said what I said, but I'm gonna call you Finally quit taking my call. So that, you know. So we're saying Des didn't make all the meetings on time. That's what he's saying there. Right? Yeah. So and then so does Des just sit back and go, oh okay. I'll just let Jerry say some stuff and I won't respond online.

My point is Des jumped in right away. I know, but I also think this was entirely unnecessary. First of all, he's old and he's kinda probably doing the deal where like seven conversations that kinda happened and others that didn't go together. First of all, Jay-Z wasn't Dez's agent. He was the head of the company. It's not like, I don't know a good example,

but there's other foot soldiers out there that are, Jay-Z's there, he's helping you negotiate, but if the idea was that if Dez is late for the Tuesday 8, that they're gonna call fucking Jay-Z, that was never the agreement, and that was never the expectation, and that was never the expectation. But Jerry's saying it to be bombastic. So when you say something to be bombastic about Des.

And Des is just sitting at home minding his own business, and all of a sudden he's in the news here. And he loves being in the news, it seems like, for as much as he's like, oh, keep my name out of your mouth. I think he likes being in the news now. He's not the only one, because Roc Nation put out a statement. They put out, the company put out a statement like, this is comical.

This has not happened. There was no conversation about, hey, we're going to call you if he's late, and we didn't answer the call. They basically just said this is all BS. And Dez, for his part, he wanted the world to know that you keep his name out of your mouth as well. His first one was, I don't think it's smart to mention my name, I kept quiet about a lot of unfair shit. We could have story time if that's what we're doing.

So this is interesting because I was talking to my wife about this last night and it occurred to me, this is the story. Dez definitely knows where a lot of bodies are buried. There's no doubt that if he wanted today to just release the Epstein files on what he knows about the cowboys, it would be news. But the problem is he can't do that

because they have far more damaging information on him. Yes. So like whatever. Trouble they've gotten him out of. That's the thing and that's how they hit me. They're like, you know what, we're gonna let the monkey story leak out to make sure that just distracts people

from other stuff that could be. Sure, yeah and this tape that they, that is how they are mafia-like, because they get enough material on you, and if you stay in the good graces, you're fine. So, Dez is kinda like, well, you guys wanna start trading stories? I promise you, he does not want to.

He does not wanna do that. So, this should have just died there, but it didn't because Nicki Minaj, who was formerly a rock nation artist, is crazy and has a whole lot of problems, some of them probably legitimate with her former record label and with Jay-Z and the other executives there.

I think she's like off the deep end, like believes in lizard people type thing. You guys know what I'm talking about. Like the conspiracy theorists type who are like, they actually believe that the president's a lizard. I have her famous tweet. Yes, yes, if you wanna kind of remind everyone of what her, her thought. Well, this. If you wanna kind of remind everyone of what her.

Well, this was vaccine related. My cousin in Trinidad won't get the vaccine because his friend got it and became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married. Now the girl called off the wedding. Would you do that if Chuck's testicles swelled up a little bit,

you calling off the whole wedding? Like is your whole love for him based on the testicle size of Chuck? Maybe you're more excited. Look, with each passing day his love for me grows. He's saving up. So she's just talking to people who don't want to get back. She says, so just prey on it and make sure

you're comfortable with your decision, not bullied. Okay, Nicki Minaj. Yeah. Yeah. So what got her tweeting at Dez? Well, I don't even know that she was necessarily claiming that it was Dez. It was that she initially wanted to go at Jay-Z. And Dez was just kind of in the way.

Because, you know, Roc Nation and Jay-Z and them being kind of shitty, that was brought up by Jerry. So I think Nicki Minaj just wanted to jump on Jerry's wave and be like, yeah, they suck. They do business poorly. That was just, Dez was just there. But he responded, I commend him for this.

I think you get one sensible response out of Dez, and if you get that, you're happy. Because if you keep pushing him, it's not gonna get to two. And his first response was just something like, hey, a video, he's like Nicki Minaj, I'm a fan, leave me out of this. And she did not.

and leave me out of this. And she did not. She responded with article with quotes and screenshots from when he quote unquote beat up his mom. Early in his career when his mom was, I believe she was in active addiction at the point, she was beating up on him and he grabbed her. So now, the idea that he's just gonna say, leave me out of this after the mom thing gets brought up,

it's over. Whatever professional mental health development Dez has had, that's not happening. And she's got a lot in her history, like the fact that her husband, a lot of people think rap raped somebody when he was younger, like convicted sex offender. So now Dez is like, Hey, let's go. It's drama time. It's skeleton time.

So he brings that up and there's a lot more in here. We could stop down and read every tweet. There's accusations of racism, of, uh, you know, holding other black people down. That's what she's accusing Jay-Z of doing. But the upshot is once Dez is like, hey, your husband's a pedophile, Nicki Minaj was like, no, he's not, and he'll whip your ass. You want to put up 10 mil? And I don't know, this 6'3", 225 all-pro wide receiver was like, go to the bank and give me an address well yeah she said I'm so happy about so I'll give you 10 million in cash if you come fight him since you beat up your own mom and then a lot of

other stuff and that ended with a Des Bryant's booty hole allegedly leaks as an adult so I'm not sure where she got that information. I actually want to play Dez's audio response to this after I mentioned Qualis Roofing because they are awesome. They are like one of our first sponsors. And you're gonna get us to tell you about the sponsors every 15 minutes or so during the program? Thank you. Not too bad, right? For one spot? To hear one spot every 15 minutes? I feel like there are other places with even more.

Yeah, they have like eight spots every 15 minutes. But yeah, Qualis Roofing, so many people have said they're awesome. Some people say, you know what, I originally called them 817-500-9008 just to get the free dumb zone t-shirt that they offer with the free roof inspection. And then they hooked me. And then, well, he says then all of a sudden we found out, oh look, I got roof damage and the insurance will cover it and I'm only paying deductible out of pocket, like me.

That's what I did. And we found out Friday, even if your insurance doesn't cover it, they know loopholes. Yeah. Because they got our sit-in, a roof through his previous insurance company. So they know all the tricks of the trade. I think they just want to help you out however they can.

And I am not BSing you. I've not had a single person say bad experience with Qualys. There are hundreds at this point. These are good dudes, they're gonna treat you right. And you know, if they're not gonna give you the best deal, they'll just tell you, go elsewhere. But you owe it to yourself to give them a call, 817-500-9008 or qualysgc.com.

So I got Dez. I feel like we should probably step away. What do you mean? He's here. Oh, is he? Well, let's hear, or you wanna hear this with Charles Haley you mean? He's here. Oh, is he? Well, let's hear, or you want to hear this with Charles Haley? Yeah, that's fine.

Cause yeah, Des. We're gonna have all week. Des responds to Nicki Minaj, but I just, I thought it was entertaining. So yeah, okay. We will step away cause Jake gets whatever Jake wants. Let's hold this over. Dums, dums, dums, dums, dums.

Hey Claire, did you just get rear-ended by that truck and it wasn't your fault? I did. Cornelius Falcon, what should I do? Pick up your phone and start pressing threes, you ungrateful monster. Franko and Franko. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. Should we promote something here or just say hello to Charles Haley? You're listening to The Dumb Zone. Should we promote something here or just say hello to Charles Haley? We didn't wait long enough. I'd say we say hello to Charles Haley.

The great Charles Haley. Yeah, fourth round pick ends up in NFL Hall of Famer. Five rings in studio with us last year. Nobody fought too hard, right? We were all, we got along. Did we all get along? No puppet. I don't know if we did or not. I think people- But I'm back.

Yeah. That's all that matters. It's all that really matters. The great Charles Haley. Yes, here for Tackle Tomorrow. Now you think there's a guy that knows about distractions on a team and craziness going on. for Tackle Tomorrow. Now you think there's a guy that knows about distractions on a team and craziness going on

if you were on the 90s Cowboys. Make today look like child's play. It feels like if you've got to mix in the winning, that helps it, right? Winning cures all diseases. Yeah, so what do you see the Cowboy? Oh, I also want to apologize for this guy. I told you he won't be here tomorrow because of the way he treated you guys be nice you tell I

I'm in the bathroom uh during the break as one will do and I I see I have a text from 25 minutes ago Charles Haley is here they're in the green room why wouldn't you just walk them in we're in the middle of Cowboys talk this is Charles Haley we're not we're still in the middle of Cowboys we wanted like keep our discussion going and place and audio and he can leave now yeah no you want to get rid of him no I like him man he's cool all right having a kid tomorrow not him you know but you sure it 2025. I was gonna say, yeah. We're gonna find out tomorrow. The only update I have for Charles is after our visit

last time, I did MC an event with Charles and with Demarcus Ware. Demarcus Ware, yeah. And he said that haircut is awful. And that's the last time I've had that haircut. So it was more of a heart on the side. Yeah, you look better today. Thank you. Thank you, I appreciate you.

You got the faith only a mother could love. Aw, that's sweet. I guess that's why you do radio, right? That's, yeah, whatever it is we're doing now. I don't know, getting to talk to you. Yeah, your hair is doing something funny up there. We are in a problem. Well, he had messed it up.

Yeah, yeah. Look at the picture, he had grabbed my hair. I didn't do that. He was right. We're already in the For example, we've got Tuesday, September 9th for the Night with Legends and then we've got Wednesday. That's the thing that you emcee last year? All right. Wednesday, September 10th for the golf tournament. Rick. That's not the thing that you did.

At TackleTomorrow.com. Jake doesn't golf. Yeah. And I don't know, from afar I've just. You golf? Don't yell at me. No, I got to give your white folks something to be good at. I'll let y'all do the water sports,

all the cold weather stuff, man, we good. Not a skier? Who? Skier, you don't ski, downhill skiing, snowboard. No, we got, I told you man, damn, y'all always whining. Y'all always whining, you know, brothers be, we try to give y'all some stuff. You're gonna let me play hockey?

Yeah. If we're gonna have this conversation honestly though, I feel like we have a new breed of white. What is that? They didn't have guys like Cooper Flag when I was growing up. They did not have, if you're saying it's been dominated, you got like white cornerbacks?

The Eagles have a white cornerback. I feel like we're coming back a little bit. You mean a safety? They have a white corner and a white safety. There's only one though. It was one, it was, Scott Case was the white cornerback and back with Atlanta. Yeah, they had Seahorn, but I feel like we're coming,

but we were dead for a long time. Look out. Hey, you know what it's like. It's just like Tennis and and golf you got you know, you got one or two speckled around in there But hey, they go last too long. I don't believe how's life If it's good man, know, every day wake up, but a new mission to try to help kids. I love it. What's the day to day like on that front?

Like how do you? Well, you know, more or less right now, we're in the fundraising part of it. And you know, I find that it's hard to raise money for black and brown kids than it is for a dog. I could raise more money for a dog than I can for black and brown kids. But we're gonna keep working at it.

And I'm- You just tell people it's for a dog. Yeah, you know what? You know, you get treated like that, you shouldn't say that. I feel you. So again, rick at tackleackletomorrow.com, if you'd like in on either one of these two things.

Great cause, and I've just always respected from afar, you know, just that you dedicated your life to giving back after you got out. I think it's really, really cool. Well, you know, we have to do something. You know, they said we're saved by grace, but then you're not saved by grace unless you do some good work and I'm gonna do a whole lot of work because I need a whole

lot of grace. I feel you. Are you paying attention to the current Cowboys situation? What's going on? I hear it. He was out there. I hear the noise. Oh you're at camp this year? Yeah. Okay What was that like? What do you do there? It was great, man. I just hung out, more or less listening, seeing how guys are bonding. The key to winning is bonding. You don't have guys talking to each other, or fighting,

fussing, saying this is my job. Because in the past, all guys do is just, everybody's friends and I don't understand that. This is my job, you ain't taking it. And if somebody's not challenging me for my job, then it's not worth having, you know? So I try to tell the guys, you know, the only way that you can truly, truly be great is

you gotta ball them up and say, this is mine. Hey, come take it. Can you, are you, I mean, you've been around so many teams in your life. Can you go to a training camp, observe it for a day or two, and get a feel, this one is different than the one before, or before, because for us, it's all the same.

We're not in it. But can you feel like, oh, this camp is more demanding, this camp is more aggressive or intense, this camp is softer, is that something you can tell? We used to hear like like camp cupcake with Wade, that sort of thing. Well, I think for me now it's more of coaching, watching the coaching styles,

see if they are really giving the players some technique. Mostly they just like college, they just put you out there and say go and you know at some point skill takes over and if you don't teach technique then the kids will never develop skill so that's one of the biggest thing and the other thing too is you just look at the pieces of the puzzle that's being placed around the team and and that's what builds confidence. So right now, because of Pickens, everybody feels a little bit more energy,

and that's gonna bring a lot more excitement to the game. So we'll see. They just gotta get a running back, I guess, or they wanna run the ball. It seems like it. Which is odd, yeah, that they kind of ignored that in free agency. Just for some of the bigger names, I think.

What do you make of the whole Micah's contract situation that's going on right now? Does that affect the team, adversely? Um, we all been through contracts, man. I don't think it affects the team. Everybody knows that he's gonna be there. It's just at what point. Jerry got to figure out the money part and then he'll get paid. It's just like Emmet. It's a distraction. Guys will feel it, guys will feel it, but you know, you gotta play. You gotta play through it. And at some point, Jerry gonna pull the trigger.

So you were on the team that year that Emmett held out the first two games of the season? Right? You take a guess. Yeah, no, but I mean what? One of my three Super Bowls with the Cowboys was out there or no? I get it, so.

Why you asking dumb questions? I'm just kind of confirming. I wasn't gonna say it, Charles. There you go. I was kind of thinking yeah, you know, so How does that? How is that affecting you day to day then when you're there and You know, he's asking about it other people are asking you're watching it You're kind of you're losing the first two games of the season. Are you thinking what the hell a Media didn't ask me questions B were they afraid of you I don't know what they were I didn't care because I

wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna be available anyway okay I I could care less about about Charles Haley it's about my teammates so I'll let them have all that glory. I just wanna play, have fun, and win. But you know what, Emmett, it was, guys thought that we couldn't win without Emmett. We knew at some point Emmett would be in, but when you start, when the team start feeling like we can't win without one person and the media did most of driving that that piece into the into the wood, every time

we come around well the productivity, you know, we need Emmett and then at some point it started wearing to God's head and they start believing that one person is the reason why we can win or can't win. I don't know if this is true or not, but there is an article after you guys lost the second game. This is Buffalo. And they sort of almost in retrospect credit Charles Haley for the Cowboys signing Emmett Smith,

because it says here after the second loss, I believe almost in retrospect credit Charles Haley for the Cowboys signing him at Smith because it says here after the second loss, Haley made headlines for smashing his helmet through a concrete wall in the locker room showing his displeasure with the team's inability to sign him at Smith. The Cowboys quickly relented and reached an agreement with Smith the following week.

Do you recall any of this? Well, you know, hey, I don't know. I don't know about that made Jerry get Emmett back. My thing was I wanted to take excuses out the game. And if Emmett's gonna be the reason why we win, bring Emmett in. You know, like I said, a team divided would shall fall. And right then we were divided

and we couldn't hold up our standard of excellence. So we had to fight for each other and that's what we do. So where were we in talking about what's going on in the off season right now? So Micah, as you know, is unsigned, or excuse me, he's signed. That's the weird thing. He's got one year left on his contract, but he wants a new deal. The Cowboys could just let him play that year out and then franchise him for the next couple of years. So it's just odd that this is

going on. But so then it's Micah versus Jerry. Jerry then cites, look, when you sign these contracts, the agents, you know, they don't get involved in babysitting them like I have to. Let's just look at Dez. So then Dez gets mad. He's online talking about it. Now it's Jay-Z getting upset because he was Dez's agent. So they're putting out a statement about how great they are. Somehow Nicki Minaj gets into this, jumps in, because she sees, hey, somebody's bashing Jay-Z. Are you aware of any of this? Paul Farmer, Charles Ailey, kind of above the fray. Okay. On this sort of thing.

I don't listen to you guys, so I don't know. Well, no. We're now reporting this for the first time because this all happened. This is all just since Friday Friday. Yes Friday Micah did you are you aware that Micah asked for a trade? He tweeted out a thank you Dallas for supporting me But this has gone too far and I'm request formally requesting a trade from the Dallas Cowboys. Wow. Yeah. And then that's what I'm thinking all weekend.

Wow. And then so that, yes, then it gets to Jerry. You've publicly challenged Jerry, and I think that's a bad move because I don't think Jerry wants to be embarrassed publicly. That is a terrible move. Did you ever have contentious contract negotiations with Jerry? Contentious, what does that mean? Just difficult, very tense. Was it hard? Was it hard? I think that me and Jerry could look each other in the eyes and realize what direction we wanted to go. And for me, Jerry's always been Jerry.

And I've never had a problem with him. And I just think that you do the stuff behind closed doors, you know, and you keep everybody out of it. But, you know, he gave me a new contract and, you know, I kissed his neck for it, you know. Yeah. No, most players, most ex-players love Jerry. I've heard very few negative things about Jerry, if anything. In fact, I thought Dez was one of them that really loved Jerry and maybe that's why he thought so then Jerry in his retort so Dez, Micah. Didn't Jerry say that the last person he paid all the money to got hurt for a year? Yeah. Yeah okay so he went at DAC so you know nobody's off-limits. No.

He should have realized that nobody's off limits. Right, yeah, yeah. And that's what Micah's mad about because he's giving these little subtle. Little shots at Micah. Shots at Micah. This is a timeless year. Shots at Dak. And then this weekend he gives a shot at Dan. Or you thought he got mad because he gave

the tight end of a new contract. I don't think he's mad about that, to tell you the truth. That's me just because That is not a game changing like it's not it. Yeah It's a contract a league change it like no one really cares across the league There's like it will be the highest we're not we're talking about the league We're just talking about in the room in the room with the Cowboys. I wonder you looking at you know, okay Are you aware when you're a player

of the other guys signing a contract? What, are you aware? Yeah. I guess when you hear it comes out, you do. And do you think, well, I guess what's your opinion? You think he's a little perturbed? No, I'm just saying, you know, you sitting there and you talking about your contract

and then you turn around a few days, a week later or so and somebody else get a new contract. So, you know, that guy would be going like, oh, so you putting me second? You know, you never know what's going on through a guy's head, but they gotta learn to have tough skin, you know? You gotta be tough skinned to play this game.

Yeah, I do, I think Dak kind of did it right. He did kind of keep it all behind closed doors. Jerry did publicly take a shot or two at Dak's people and this and that, and there's only so much of the pie that goes around, and we can't pay Dak if we got to pay CD and this, but then in the end, He got the world. Dak got everything. Yeah, he got the contract he wanted. wanted so I thought Dak did it right where this thing with Micah

it just doesn't seem why like you said different two different players man oh my god hey hey you know like I said you know if you know I have one thing tell Mike you just relax relax and things will get worked out. His thing is he wanna be with the team. He wants to work hard. He wants to, you know, you sit there and watch everybody else work and getting better and then you sit in there and watching your skills rust

because you're not working out with the team. You're not really getting in shape like you wanna do because when you get back, you wanna hit the ground running. And it's hard to do that when you don't have contact or anything else before because in 89, I held out. And then I came in the first game of the season. It take you a game to get acclimated, get used to getting hit.

So I understand from that side of the coin. Yeah, and I think for him also, he just plays so many snaps. It seems like he never comes off the field and people say, oh, he's in great shape, he can just show up week one. So what, he's the only person that ever did that? No, but for an edge, and I mean, you know I can look show up week one. So what, he the only person that ever did that? No, but for an edge, and I mean,

you know I can look this up. Yeah, why don't you look up how much y'all play? You probably are from the last, you had to have been a plus, a 90 plus on defense. Okay, so what you whining about then? I'm not whining, but over the past probably 15 or so years, a lot of these guys get to leave the field on third down, or they only go onto the field on third down.

Oh, okay. Am I wrong? Wrong about what? You were out there every play though, you're saying? Yes, previously. I was out there most of it. Okay, yeah. But a lot of these guys now.

Yeah, they rotate the guys now to keep them fresher, right? Yeah, and he actually stays out there quite a bit. Like he plays way more snaps than Myles Garrett or Watt or any of those guys. What's your relationship with Micah? What do you mean, relationship? What does that mean?

Well, I mean. Well, he's my brother. I go out, we talk. We talk about a lot of things other than just football, you know Most of the guys I try to build a relationship with that because I want to be more of a teacher more of a Guy that can go out there and say look, you know what I've been through this You know, this is how I got through it and maybe you should try something different. I see guys that may be struggling

with some mental health issues that, you know, I've been through it. So I get the poem to a side and say, bro, look, you know what, don't go through what I went through, because you may not make it through, because with the media and everything now, everybody, you know, it's nail syndrome,

everybody got cameras and everything, now everybody, you know, it's nail syndrome, everybody got cameras and everything else, so I was fortunate enough not to have all that. I wonder if, do you think, I'm ready for him to yell at me at any point, but do you think he would be as good of a spokesperson for this, like for mental health, if he were like a kicker? Or do you think it's cooler when Micah gets a call

from a guy who's like a certified badass at his position? I just think when it's, when in the mental health world, like there's a severe lack of like masculine people that will talk about these things. It's changing though, right? It's changing because of him. And guys like him. Men still don't, men still don't still don't deal with that mental illness.

Women deal with most of it. And people of color really don't. And as an athlete, you've been told since you was a kid that God be a man. I don't know what that definition mean, but that means you don't cry. Men don't cry. So you have to take means you don't cry. You know, men don't cry. And so you

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Did you plan to sing Charlotte birthday, a happy birthday, or was that a spur of the moment decision? A spur of the moment, somebody told me that was her birthday, and I figured, because I love some Charlotte Jones. Me too. So she's been great, and she's always been there, been a great friend, and so I wanted to do something

special for her. Outside the box idea, what if we make Charlotte the GM? She seems like she's really on top of her stuff. Last time I heard, we didn't got no power to do that. Last time I heard, I just. You have more than me. Who? You. No, you're on the, ain't you on the radio? Your voice sounds louder than mine. You reach more people. So you keep reaching. Let's see how far it goes. You can talk to the big man. Who's the

big man? Jerry. I would guess you could get him on the line today. Hey, let me tell you something. Let's call Jerry. Jerry ain't never listened to a black man. They ain't gonna listen to one of them. Damn. You know what, we'll go there. I've never really thought of him, and I don't know. I'm interested in your experience on this. Obviously you have where he grew up, the history,

but is it a feeling, is it like a paternalistic feeling where he wants to feel like your dad or daddy? Is it a feeling, is it like a paternalistic feeling where he wants to feel like your dad or daddy or what? Why do you, I've never taken him as racist. Jerry. No, no, no, I'm trying to get to what, if you would say this person even offhand, he's not gonna listen to a black man. Why do you?

I know. Okay, because I think there are actual NFL owners who wouldn't. Wouldn't what? Who don't listen. Like for example, the former owner of the Panthers who got himself into some trouble. I think there are plenty of owners in the NFL

who actually have been racist over the years. I've just never taken that as jurisdiction. You know what? You know, you could say that we're all racist in some type of way. I agree. We're all. in some type of way. I agree. We're all. So until you can point the finger,

you gotta stop pointing your finger at somebody else and remember who you are. I grew up in a segregated town. So what, you don't think I was racist? I'm positive, yes. Okay, Dan, so you know what? Hey, you have to go through something to get through something.

So I'm not gonna tell anybody they're racist or not because I know the challenges I had to go through and I think that at at some point we're all mature through these things. Jerry included. So in the 70s the place you grew up with in is segregated I Think it still is really yeah, where's that? Where's what your hometown? What is that gladis? What was a Virginia yeah, okay? I am a little small country town you know blacks on the outside whites on the inside you know damn It's a what is Howlin Park town you know blacks on the outside whites on the inside you know damn hey

what is Howlin Park yeah they're on the inside huh okay hey it's a whole bunch and no matter what state you're wherever you go to you have areas that's all white you know product of redlining and that's not I don't think people in because they live in Howlipark races, I just think they just got money. Hey, if being rich make you racist, then they racist as hell. And here's the important thing, with some of that money, if they would like to donate that by attending a dinner or a golf tournament, they can email RickettTackleTomorrow.com. Well, you know what? Now we got a problem. They want to donate because y'all said they're racist. I brought it back to the...

Wait, you said they're racist. We think they're great. Oh, I don't know everyone Especially why it tackle tomorrow calm. Hey, why is your nose so long man? Pokeno is Pinocchio your daddy damn. I was out of nowhere He did make fun of my hair last time. I read that you grew up in a small town and were unaware of the real world When you got drafted, you had never heard anyone speak another language. Is that true? Yes.

And I don't know if this is the first person, but I read that Anthony Munoz spoke Spanish and you were like, what is going on here? Oh, he scared the shit out of me? Oh yeah. Yeah. It took me a minute to figure out the world. But yeah, I was very naive. When I got off the plane, I asked somebody,

where was the luggage? I asked a black guy, where was the baggage claim? He spoke another language. I asked a white guy, he spoke another language. Hell, I went back to the gate waiting for my plane to take me home and John Gruden came and got me. He spoke another language, actually white guy. He spoke another language. Hell, I went back to the gate waiting for my plane to take me home and John Gruden came and got me. I kept hearing my name on the damn intercom,

talking about come here. And so I said at the gate and he came and got me. Hey. Wow. John Gruden was your guy off the plane, huh? John Gruden with just Gopher back there. That's what my brother used to do for the Saints. He'd go pick up Dez at that one time. So yeah, you got young coaches just trying to track down Charles.

He was probably terrified of you. I think that same thing, whatever I was reading, this is a while ago, made some notes. You never saw an interracial relationship until college. Never saw one in college. What you talking about, white and black? Yeah. Yeah, I saw that in college, I think, yeah. Okay.

You gotta watch videos now. Okay, so where we going? Just the rich life and history of the great Charles Haley. That's all I was going. Because you mentioned your hometown, I think. Do you remember the question that made you yell at me or get upset with me last year? Can I ask it again? Can I try?

You asked me a question? Yeah. Why do you want to make him mad? Because I want to try to get mad. He yelled at you. Okay, what's your problem? Because we made up and then I saw him after that. Oh, that's right.

And you did the thing and he laughed at your head. Oh yeah, I forgot. Yeah, we walked out and you kissed my ass. We couldn't do that again. I, listen, cards on the table. My question was that during your career when you were not necessarily taking care of your mental health and there were,

it was a challenge for you, my question was just, is there any part of you that thinks that you were able to get to a dark place that allowed you in some way to be successful because of those mental health struggles? I find it hard too, because when I'm in a manic space, I want to do a million things, and then when I'm in a manic space, I can't, I want to do a million things and then when I'm depressed, all I want to do is sleep or just be out of control. So I

have more, I make more control within the elements of violence part of it. I can concentrate more. And so I think I learned to deal with both sides of the corn. And so it was easier for me. I don't think bipolar had anything for me. I don't feel like it had anything to do during the game. Now, the stuff I did in the locker room, I probably was either depressed or manicky when I did some of the dumb stuff. Sure. Out on the field, I don't think that contributed anything. And that makes sense to me.

Love to hear you say it. The reason I ask is I sometimes think there's an idea among athletes that if you do become more in touch with what's happening upstairs in your mental health that you're like somehow getting softer. That you're not as aggressive, that you're not as tough and you know it's nice to hear you somewhat dispel that. I think that's something people are afraid of and I don't think they should be. I think you get better as an athlete if you're more. You go back, you go back. It depends on where you raised at. If you raised, and as a minority man playing sports, it's frowned upon, you just talk about feelings, emotions,

and so you don't do it. And you learn to fight from, you know, kid on, you know? And that becomes your mantra, you know? But your life off the field spills out of control. And that's when your bipolar takes over. Now, Todd did say that you guys were going to hang out, like, for the whole rest of the show. Is that true? Or do you got to get out of here? How long is the rest of the show? About 45 minutes maybe? Are you good?

Like see we got we were just gonna do our show and just have you sit here and be part of our show if you Want we're gonna do the news? Well, we're gonna do today's. Would you like to comment on today's news stories? So well, you know what I was sitting here all day with you, but every time you move your nose, you almost hit me in the eye. So, um. Are you accusing me of being a liar? No.

Do you want to take this outside, buddy? Why can't we do it inside? Oh, I don't know. I just thought you say stuff. I just want to say something and then not really follow up on it. Level of confidence. I'm gonna beat him black

so you can beat my brother to hell. I'd like to see you try to catch me pal. Well actually, please don't. I feel like I could do my, I could probably get away from you. I feel like you've probably had major knee surgeries. Am I right? Your hip is messed up?

Are you taunting the Hall of Famer? I'm just asking, could I get away from him? I'm not very fast myself. Let me give you a little secret. Most guys that play sports or whatever, just because they walk around with a smile don't mean that they're mostly, I'm a violent man. Yeah. So.

But I thought you had all that under control, no? I thought, no, geez. Yeah, it's on the phone. One phone call. That's what I am. But, you know, and I try not to... People like to push, and I have to remind them that, you know what, once that switch goes off, it's hard to turn it back on.

Yeah, well, see, I thought we were having fun and you were just joking back and forth. Oh, yeah, I am joking, right. That's what I thought. No, you said it. Otherwise, I'd like to bow down to Charles Haley. Don't do it. You've all been kissing my butt all day.

Yeah, you see that not get tiring? Yeah. All these people just- I'm gonna kiss your butt, man. Like Todd's like, oh, where do you wanna go, Charles? And I'm like, let's just get real. Todd, you know? Get real.

Todd told me to come in here and slap you, and I said, no, Todd, I'm not gonna do that. But guys, Tachylamara House still some tables, and we have a couple of them. Okay, I think he's now saying goodbye, which is all good Yeah, we're giving you the option. Okay. Well the option is no we're gonna I'm gonna allow y'all to go do Gracious finish our show without you. Yeah saying yeah, cuz you know what I'm just but tackle tomorrow is your charity

Yeah, because you know what? I'm just... But Tackle Tomorrow is your charity, right? My charity is our charity. Me and my board members and all the kids in South Dallas that we serve in the ten schools. We're one. One heartbeat. One family. So the Legends Dinner is...that's the one where Jake...who's going to be there besides you? Can we promote that or not yet? Wow, it's gonna be a bunch of Hall of Famers. I, you know, with these guys, you gotta wait like two weeks beforehand. They all say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then it start trimming down, but normally it's about 15, 20 Hall of Famers gonna be there. And then a lot of my teammates will be there for the dinner and golf. You know, every once in a while Troy, Michael, and Emmett make cameo appearances for the dinner. I'm hoping that we can get them again this year. We're gonna do something special. We're gonna have we can get them again this year. We're gonna do something special. We're gonna have 100 mini helmets signed by Hall of Famers.

We're gonna put it up for auction at the dinner. So we're gonna have some specialty things. I think that you should come out and help and just realize that if we wanna be the change, we gotta make the change. So let's join hands in helping these kids learn to read. Tackletomorrow.com. Do we have vegetarian options at the dinner? Do we have fish?

Yeah, we do have vegetarian options. That means that, you know, you go in, don't eat. Just... Hey. The great Charles Haley in studio with us. You know, you go in, don't eat. The great Charles Haley in studio with us and is on his way out. Thanks so much, man. Appreciate it. Thanks for not kicking my ass. Thanks for allowing me to come on your show.

Big boy, get up and help me out. Okay. Yeah. There he is. Look at him. Bye Charles. All right man, thanks. The great Charles Haley. What a time. What a time. You know that reminds me of early bird CBD. Early bird CBD.com. I'd like to see him kick my ass really. I don't think he could.

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I'll go there. Oh And I'll turn up the audio That was fun. Oh Yeah, I don't know I feel like he's like that's always a wild ride. He's like Jerry Jones is kind of a racist I'm like, let's investigate that. He's like, what are you talking about? I know we're why would you say I feel like but it's fun though It's fun see we would have got him to stay for longer if you didn't leave him in the green room like an idiot What's wrong with you? Are you just focused on this whole kid thing?

They got here 45 minutes early so I thought- They got here at 1230 and we had said 1245 or 1250. I say walk them in. They easily could have been brought in. Well, we were talking about Dez's leaky butt hole. I didn't think- Yes, that's perfect. Look Blake's like a- Blake's all focused on this baby. He's not himself.

Blake's like a 97 overall, but they only have a couple 99s. Yeah, but his misses are huge. His misses are huge. That was a game-winning minute. No, I'm just kidding. I don't care. I just didn't want him to be all pissed. We had a home in Waxahachie catch on fire from lightning overnight. Dude, did you guys get, I was very surprised by both storms. Like yesterday afternoon, the 1st one, I was like, what the?

I was very surprised early afternoon storm. Or what, was it five or so? Earlier than that, yeah, like two, three. But the night one, I was scouting it out because run the ball, or excuse me, established the wrong guy, would be happy to know. I wanted to look at the radar. I saw we're gonna get a huge storm in at about 5 a.m.

Let's turn off the sprinklers. There you go. Let's not waste that water. Nice woke. I'm owed Sunday morning. Oh, how good do you feel when you see a huge rainstorm the day you mowed? Yeah, walking out this morning and the grass is cut

and there's still like a layer of water on top. Bricked up. And you could then go to your rain gauge and determine how much actually. Call the news. Send them in a picture. Yeah, home college. Did you shave?

Cause you're getting ready for pictures tomorrow? No. Like a homo? Oh. No, I just, I grow my beard out until it just becomes itchy and I'm tired of it and then I'll shave it. That's not a good story. I'm more of a, yeah, this one's not any better.

I think I just kind of trim it down every three days to the two. But I don't know what people are, I don't know how to, no one taught me how to take care of my facial hair. My neck's all effed up, my, the... That's because you came from a broken home. The symmetrical nature of the, it's just not good. The whole thing's bad.

Sorry, man. Go ahead. Not doing skin to skin this time either. Oh, last time. Didn't do it. I thought that bonded. I thought you did do it. No, he didn't, he refused to do it.

I'm not taking my shirt off in that room. As we were telling him. You think it's gay to lay skin to skin with your own kid. It is the worst opinion. Like you're gonna be all attracted to your kid. It is a once or twice in a lifetime opportunity. It makes complete biological sense. No, it doesn't.

And he's just. You're laying on my skin. Lay on my sweaty skin so we can bond. That doesn't make any sense No, I'm not firing my shirt off to have my baby lay on my chest that's weird Well, you can do it at home. You don't have to do it in the room, right? It doesn't have to be within they make a big show of it now. You're supposed to do it right away. Really? Yeah And like did you do it Me yeah, I did it at home, sure. Okay. I'm okay. Thank

you though. They let you cut the cord too. Did you do that? I did do that. I was not. Because I cut the cord and then I cleaned out all the placenta. Because I like cleaning, you know, that's my thing at home. Right. You were just trying to help out. Yeah. And you're like, I have a stitch, the extra one, yeah, right there.

Oh yeah. Put that in. The stitch, boy. I feel like we've got a long time without Stitch-Tar. Actually, I did not cut the cord, but since her second one was C-section, they let me cut across the belly and then they took a picture of it

like they do the wedding cake thing. Where you get to- You keep smiling? Yeah, you get to both hold the thing. So we were both holding this giant knife before slicing open her belly. And then I accidentally nicked my daughter's, like she still has the scar on her thumb today

because I cut too far deep into it. And I cut her thumb, yeah. It's a lot of fun, I got the pictures up at... They're gonna be on the wall, right? Daniel, yeah, we're gonna put it on Yawall. We mentioned the other day that Ghislaine Maxwell had been moved to Texas. I was laughing about that all weekend.

Me too. I saw, I that all weekend. Me too. I saw, I ran into a listener who was like, dude, I can't stop laughing thinking about the world's most notorious child sex trafficker and predator being transferred to Bryan College Station and being like, this is all super weird to me. I want to go back. I got to get out of here.

This place is creepy. No, but we mentioned to you guys the other day that the owner of Theranos, or the founder. Oh yeah. Elizabeth Holmes. Is at the same minimum security prison. I've been thinking about it all weekend. Well.

I should've grabbed the video for you, but we're in audio medium. There's a video of her, cause now people are like staked out there, like oh when are we gonna see G-Max? Well when they were looking for her, they spotted Elizabeth Holmes, and she's out there.

Like out in the courtyard? Grinding. What does that mean? Is she walking? Yes. Is she walking holding weighted dumbbells? Yes. As I told you guys,

Elizabeth Holmes is gonna have the most ridiculous post prison body, and it's gonna break, Elizabeth Holmes is gonna have the most ridiculous post-prison body and it's gonna break everything. She's gonna run for president when she's hot. It's gonna be great. She's already hot. Oh yeah, but more mass appeal. I think she's fantastic, but she's over here.

She's clearly got a little baby weight on her and she's working it off because she's a grinder. Damn. And a successful strong. Show that video to your wife. She's literally got a little baby weight on her, and she's working it off, because she's a grinder. Damn. And a successful strong. Show that video to your wife. So when she gets out of there, like Wednesday. Is it bad that part of what makes her attractive to me

is that I think she could fool me? As far as what, like get you into a scam? Anything. Or scam you? Yeah, because like, you into a scam? Anything. Or scam you? Yeah, cause like, you know, she was sitting there with like Donald Rumsfeld and General Wesley Clark. Yeah, they were all buying what she said. Yeah.

So you think I stand a chance? No, you're an idiot. I like the idea that she could just dupe me. Oh yeah. I don't dabble in horror content. So this didn't really land with me, but it was popular in the group chat and on my timeline. Zoomer comedian Matt Reif.

Who you hate. He's bad. I do hate. Not good. Who you hate. He's bad. I do hate. Not good. His comedies? I've tried taking some of it in just to see what's going on here. And I just see nothing.

I gave it an honest shake. I'm really hungry by the way, I might have to start eating a little. His crowd work. Charles Haley was in here. His crowd work is actually not bad. You think you would have judged your lunch? In general though, I'm not a fan.

I don't know that these people can be funny anymore. First of all, he's too hot. It's, you can't have hot comedians. Comedians, it just doesn't work. Unless you can have one every now and then. Isn't he like, he does funny little TikTok things? Yeah. And then I feel like that's like a SNL skit

that they shouldn't have made into a movie. Yeah, now he was on like Wild and Out, so he's been on sketch shows. But for him to do 45 minutes of stand up. He feels exposed. And also, nevermind, I'm not gonna, later. So he bought, he bought something called the Annabelle Raggedy Andal.

There's an image of it there, which is from, I guess the universe of horror films called The Conjuring. I bet my daughter would know. Almost certainly. She's really into horror. That is terrifying. Are they over Matt Rife? Yeah, see if you can find out for us.

I'm trying to get some info right now. So this bell, this doll is at a museum, and it is the Warren Occult Museum, and he bought that. So he bought like this museum, this mansion, I don't know if you've ever heard of Ed and Lorraine Warren, but they're this duo of married ghost hunters, paranormal researchers. Yeah, so anyways, this is what this dude's doing with his

money. They plan to open the house for overnight stays and tours Um, yeah, so anyways is what this dude's doing his money They plan to open the house for overnight stays and tours at the museum which has been closed and actually last month One of its haunted tour guides guides died unexpectedly on a tour stop What do you think of haunted stuff? You know exactly what I think. I think anyone who believes in it, unless they ask me to my face, and I don't wanna be mean to them, who believes in haunted anything is a fool.

So I just texted her a picture of that doll. I said, do you know what that is? And then I wrote another line and I said, also do you like Matt Rife? We've done this to her before. And she just says yes and no. So I'm proud of her. Good.

For not liking Matt Rife. Good. That's not surprising to me. Yeah, he, it's just, it's tough to be that, that they have a jaw that looks like that. And I think he's had a lot of work done. That's not, that's tough to be that, to have a jaw that looks like that, and I think he's had a lot of work done. That's tough. Unless you're gonna do like, you have to do like the,

what's his name? Gosh darn it, Anthony Jeselnik. You have to put on a persona of I'm awesome, and I'm good looking, and you can make it like that. That's almost what Andrew Dice Clay was doing too. I almost feel, was he thought of as kind of good looking at the time? No, but he did that act.

He wasn't necessarily, you know, he was just Italian guy or whatever. What's that doll called? She says, is that Annabelle? Yes, yes, yes it is. Well, if she'd like to go visit. God, it's creepy. Then she says, why Matt Reif? Is he relevant again? Tell her he bought it. And we'll close up the news with her response.

So he bought that doll? Yeah. He bought the doll. He bought a museum. Just a really creepy, creepy move. You're going to wrap up the news now before I've even had two bites of salmon? Well, it's a long show. So there's your news. I should. It's so bad. He bought that. The broccoli smells bad. Are you guys offended? They were merely noting that you guys can suck it. Not you guys. The other guys.

I didn't say anything. So why Matt Reif? Is he I said yes what happened he bought that doll I said she says oh the og damn that's exactly what I wanted to hear she's great there's a news the dumb zone news, like and subscribe. And she ends with, well, I just don't see how this pertains to me. You know, it's a good point. Viewer mail birthdays will be brought to us by Lone Star Beer.

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I only have a couple of viewer mail birthdays, which we will start with when I pull the audio down a little bit here so you can hear it. Let's see here, we got... Dearest Daniel, Post-Flor-B burger David Hasselhoff and the baby daddy. I think that's you then, right? You're the the Hoff. I'll still eat stuff off the floor. We had a tent scene during the birthday party yesterday.

A piece of cake fell on the ground off my son's plate. And my father-in-law was like, I'd throw that out. And I go, I would not. And I put it back on his plate, handed it to him. Oh, you didn't eat it yourself? They thought I, no, I mean, same as him. You're just raising him. Yeah, we're not.

To be the dirt bag that you are. Very important, save a lot of money. This is one of your lawyers, McCool. Nice. Please wish happy birthday to my oldest daughter, Elora. Great name. Who is celebrating her John Elway birthday. She lets me play a little bit of the dumb zone in the car

between Taylor Swift songs and the soundtrack to Wicked. Her leader is Blake's kid, but only if he's born today. Otherwise it will be the roast twins. My leader is Jake's Indian doctor, who I'm way too insecure to be around. You don't understand. A fellow Indian guy, but he has abs? That's the greatest existential threat to my life. I told y'all. Dude, this guy's a Manchurian candidate. existential threat to my life. I told y'all. Dude, this guy's a Manchurian candidate. Thank you for escaping a management structure

that makes Nico and Jerry look like Sam Presti and Howie Roseman. Oh, dear. PS, my daughter has an aunt. And her name is Anupama. That's funny. PSS, I'm ready to start a podcast with Philip Kingston called Kind of Legal, but I need to talk to Philip about it first.

More Blake from McCool, Kelker. What if we find out that a newpama is like, you know. Jennifer. Sarah. It's so common. And I have Daniel Gashford. Okay. Do you find that offensive Stephanie? All of his vaginal. I don't say it. I mean it's not me. Yeah all the ones they send. It's all these

sickos that write in. Dirtbags. Like let's see how does she. She's not even gonna dignify that with a response. How does Stephanie write in? Well, he was Stephanie's email to me. The last one was dear Victor of the VAD Well, yeah not a whole lot of ground to stand on in opposition then oh Daniel Gashford, it's my 28th birthday. An item submission for Things Dan Needs. A chain wallet for the business jeans. A gay not gay submission. Yelling after the DJ tells the crowd to get louder.

That's a good one. Very G. What is it? That's Steve Harvey's old bit, like from Kings of Comedy was that he hated hip hop music as opposed to going to go see like the oldies. He's like, cause they're always asking me to do something. Stand up, hands up, move around, wave them around.

No, I paid you. That's awesome. Yelling at the DJ is a good one. My leader is Todd Andrews because of how he overcame HIV and played in the big game. That's the kid from Captain Planet when we played that government PSA where Captain Planet,

there was a kid with AIDS at the high school. Then he says, come on, let's work on your crossover dribble from Mason. He's 28 today. This is a Is that? Oh, Captain Planet.

Yeah, this is the Captain Planet clip. So there was like a bad guy. And his idea was to tell all the kids at school that Andrew had AIDS. They didn't really explain it other than to spread fear about AIDS and The Bobcats are coming back on the floor for the second half How about it coach can he play hey, what's he doing doing here he's not gonna infect my place I kind of love all the accents in that as well it feels like one where the

director was like have fun with it. Yeah. You do you. So we do some On This Day. It's Monday, August 4th. And this part will be brought to us by Frankel and Frankel. They're our personal injury attorneys. If you get into an auto wreck, you call to Frankel's 214 or 817, then dial all threes. Hey, it could be a snowmobile. Oh my gosh.

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inside a building in Amsterdam. I mean, she was breaking the law, so. On this day in 1936, oh, here's an interesting story. So, Helen Stephens, look her up. She is a sprinter for the United States. She wins the 100-meter dash, and Hitler, it says here, makes a pass at her. It says at the six foot beauty, but she rejected his advances. So I read a little closer. Olympic historian writes about her post-race experience with Adolf Hitler, he comes in and gives me the Nazi salute. I give him a good old-fashioned Missouri handshake. She says, once more, and Hitler goes for the jugular vein, he gets hold of my fanny,

begins to squeeze, pinch, and hug me up. And he said, you're a true Aryan type. You should be running for Germany. So after he gave me the once over in full massage, he asked me if I'd like to spend the weekend in Berchtesgaden. Anyway, Steven's refused. Um, I am not... Stephanie, I'm not a progenist, but I'm not trying to blame Helen Stevens for World War II. But maybe if she would have... Taken one for the team? Yeah, she probably angered him. One of the greatest lines in Generation Kills is that Saddam Hussein's entire situation is just because there's no great

pussy in Iraq. I beg to differ. Again that's the Marines words not mine. Right you wouldn't say anything like that. I've never been to Iraq how would I know? On this day in 1983, Dave Winfield of the Yankees at the time, during warmups before the fifth inning, accidentally kills a seagull with a thrown ball. You ever heard this?

I don't think so. After the game, he is brought by local police to the Ontario police station on charges of cruelty to animals and posted $500 bond before being released. The charges were dropped the following day. Talk about looking for a headline. On this day in 1987, the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC, voted 4-0 to abolish the Fairness Doctrine, which required radio and TV stations to present balanced coverage of controversial issues. And we

here at the dumb zone have the Fair Lease Doctrine. Where you can, for a very easy... If you are to lease a vehicle, yes, you should be going to fairlease.org. I would like to have a doctrine. You want to mark that down for things I want. I don't know what that really means. Boy, they would bring up the Stimson doctrine. But how about a nice doctrine? It's like damn, Stimson got a whole doctrine. Guy was just Secretary of State and he's like, nope, I don't want to just be here. I want to have a doctrine. I guess we do have the Fair Lease doctrine. That's a good one to start with.

We'll all remember that, where we were when we learned that. It already has a song, Fair Lease Navidad. Yeah. It's like a national anthem. This is the day in 1993 that Nolan Ryan kicked Robin Ventura's ass. He was 46 years old. Through a close pitch to Robin Ventura of the White Sox, he charges the mound. He ends up getting ejected and suspended. Ryan ends up staying on the mound and with a bloody just blood from Robin Ventura just kept on pitching.

That, what a moment. What a, that brought us all together, I think. For a long time, it was basically the only baseball moment that existed in my head. Before the Rangers were ever a playoff team or anything. Yeah, they weren't really like, mashers yet. Like how great that Nolan Ryan played here. Dude, you gotta- Isn't it awesome?

You have to understand how sad I was when I found out he didn't Ryan played here. Dude, you gotta- Isn't it awesome? You have to understand how sad I was when I found out he didn't always play here. Oh. That he had been in Houston and New York City. Like I was like- No, he got out of there as fast as he could, dude. No. No, and he's out in Woke, California. Got him home.

And on this day in 2022, Brittany Griner, convicted in Russia of drug possession and smuggling, was sentenced to nine years in prison. She would be released four months later. She did break the law. She wasn't just released. She was a part of a trade deadline. Oh yeah? Deal.

Yeah. God of War. She did? Wait, what was that? Oh, yeah deal. Yeah, God of War She did wait, what was that They they flew her through they landed in Abu Dhabi the Russian the Russian plane there when they were doing the transfer Was that big news there? Not really. Oh, I think anybody knew who that was. Oh It's pretty lopsided trade. It's super lopsided. I read a deal a couple there's like Not to do politics. I read a deal a month or so ago, and I probably was BS, but

We were doing some deportations of guys that they were positive like these are the worst of the worst ones not the barber and They were sending them to countries not where they're sitting them to random ones They were sending them back to countries that wanted them and we were getting prisoners back for it. So like, these guys have to go. And because they're a value to their home country, they're gonna give us back prisoners that we want from them.

Well, that's good then, right? Seems genius. It seems a lot more genius than freeing international murderous terrorist for one basketball player. But such is life. Is she still any good? Does she plays?

Was she ever? I don't know. I mean, you know what I think of. Hal J. Hal J? He's still working. No, the Hal J Brittany Griner clip. What's that?

Well, if I had Dropbox I'd be able to play it for you, but it's when he's our intern told us she was a man. To blame the intern. Other birthdays on this very day, August 4th. Here you go. Okay, let me handle this. If she says she's the best player available, I'll take her. So we don't say anything we shouldn't. Let me ask you this question, I want to be very gentle with this, and I'm serious. Now, Brittany Greiner has both traits of a male and female. No. As what? I thought she was, I thought she had.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. What'd you tell me the other day? Nothing. So I worked with Brian Estridge for a long time. He definitely told him that off the air as a joke, and Hal ran with it like he was serious. What'd you tell me the other day? What were you saying? You can hear it in the initial nothing. No like No, dude, I've been in this for

Available you handle I'll take her so it's anything we should have me. Hey, let me let me ask you this question I want to be very gentle with this. I'm serious now Brittany Griner has both traits of a male and female. No! Is what? I thought she was I thought she had no no no no no no I know what you tell me the other day nothing you told me she was born with that. No I didn't. Yeah you did somebody did. Not me. Blame it on the intern. The intern told you that. I bet it was. No. Because he's a Baylor guy. He's a Baylor grad. Look that up and let me know. What do you want us to look up?

His internet's are down. No I'll do it right here. I was told. I don't think we need it. That is God tier morning radio right there. So she was like the elf in Rudolph? What was his name? You know? Yeah, what was his name? Wanted to be a dentist?

Yeah, the Brunig. His name is Hermey. Hermey. Oh yeah. Hermey. Do we go Herm? I haven't heard Hermaphrodite in quite some time. Is that a thing? Man, I feel like if they are, they've gotta be like... What happened?

Yeah, we were up there. People used to mention us all the time. Right, we had Jamie. And now what? Now it's all these trans, these people are just putting on clothes, guys. I got a wiener and a... Are they, is there a big, like,

which sport should they play regarding trans people in Abu Dhabi? No. No. All right, other birthdays today. Roger Clemens, 63. God, what a... Also our War Games winner with 139.2, the third all-time pitcher in war.

Kofax. No. Kofax had a very short career. Idiot. I said that really mean to him, didn't I? No, I liked when you baseball slapped me. Yeah. I actually have no... It's controversial that he's even in the Hall of Fame. His career was so short, but he was so dominant. That's what they say. DeGrom? Ask? No, no, no. I don't mean DeGrom on Third War. I mean, I've been thinking about DeGrom in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, he's very low. I was just kind of

going through the whole list today, but the number one is very easy. Only because... Do we really think that Psy Young had 500 wins? Like, are we really like, oh yeah, okay, you probably had 200 more wins than anyone else in history. I'm sure that the records are all fun. I feel like on basic wins and losses and appearances, that one I kinda trust. I mean, they were running them out there every third day. I don't know. Brock Burke is 29.

Who was third? You're second? It's like Walter Johnson. Everyone around him, like in the top 10, is like old-timey named, but then there's Clemens, and you're like Walter Johnson. Everyone around him in the top 10 is old timey names. But then there's Clemens and you're like, whoa. Also there is a chem spin on him. Roger Clemens? Clemens?

Or Walter Johnson? Or Brock Burke. The big train. Clemens was hooking up with Mindy McCready and she was underage. And I believe she came up to the station with him or something like and was on the hardline is on the list yeah thank you began dating when she was 15 now Brock do you say Brock Burke the baseball player yeah

Ranger reliever with a high fastball spin rate yeah that's not Matt Perk. No. Okay. John Riggins is 76. Damn. Crank up that diesel. They don't make them like that anymore, Blake. Barack Obama. Oh.

Is 64. What'd you have for lunch? Salad. Arugula. Uh... I like idling Obama. Uh... Uh...

Author Dennis Lehane is 60. I read a couple of his great books. Uh, he might have been Shudder Island. Oh cool. Which is a couple of his great books. He might have been Shudder Island. Oh cool. Which is a very good book. Oh Mystic River. Daniel Dae Kim is 57. Is that like when they replaced... never mind. Oh don't stop. I couldn't get there. All right he was on Lost and YA5O. He's an actor. Aren't you big Lost guy?

Let's see, we have Megan Markle, 44. Does everyone hate her now? Seems like it. Actors Dylan and Cole Sprouse are 33. Do women not care as much about the royal family now that they have Love Island? Well, maybe. There's a woman here. Just as struck me as the Love Island type though.

I've never watched Love Island. Or caring about the royals. They're way into the royal still. Are you? Not really. I will pay attention though. What is your, let's just give an opinion on Meghan Markle, pro or con.

There's really kind of nothing. Eh, there's not much. She does seem Gal Gadot, whatever her name is. You think Meghan Markle's just too black? That kinda. I think she was more looking for attention seeking, maybe a little self important. But isn't that alleged, like the queen

didn't thought she was a little dark? Worried about the grandbaby. Sure. A little worried about that. the grandbaby sure a little worried about that um what you wish it was Trump negotiating for Greiner oh my god you beg leave her I mean I don't know he got she done Kim Kardashian talked him into you know letting out quite a few people who had maybe been unjustly convicted. Send us back a third round and next year Ronald Reagan. He can negotiate he wouldn't negotiated it great just like he was gonna get rid of that war. I don't

know I don't actually don't know anything about it. But apparently, two more. Billy Bob Thornton is 70. Man, I don't know. We're gonna come back to that. How did Jerry say, oh Billy Bob? He said his name weird. Billy Bob. Billy Bob.

And our dumb zone birthday of the day, we don't have intern Henry here today. I was wondering if he would have picked Dylan and Cole Sprouse, because they are from the Suite Life of Zach and Cody, and I feel like maybe that would be. And he may not know about that. I don't know about that.

What the hell is that? Before him? Yeah. All right. Dylan and Cole. Is that your bit? That was more, a little under my yeah generation Jake. Anyway it's okay. Dumbs on birthday of the day. Go ahead Jake.

Chet Hanks. Oh. He's 35. God as we close out another electric white boy summer, Chet Hayes. He's great, dude. Once I figured out to just stop trying to figure it out and love him, sometimes he'll speak in a patois accent man. I'm Tom, thank son man. White has dreadlocks sometimes. Just a ball of fun, that guy. I love him.

Born on this day now dead, Ron Lester. Isn't that crazy? It is, especially since we just got a 69 dumb zone jersey. And it's Billy Bob Thornton's birthday, and he played Billy Bob? No. Well, he played a guy named Billy Bob. Oh. Right?

I thought, yeah. I just thought, interesting, ironic fact. Big varsity blues fans. It's Billy Bob. Yeah, that was my wheelhouse right there. We met him. And then he died. Very soon after, yeah.

Unfortunately. Car wreck? Skydiving? I don't know, Blake. I think he was just... I think he had some health issues from being off that previously. And I think you knew that. Nicholas Jock Conti, he invented the modern pencil. Thanks, man. When do you think he lived? Oh, wow. That's a... Oh, wow. What? The modern. What does that mean? Well, I did say the modern pencil.

Maybe that gives you a little more hint. I'd say. But it doesn't mean the, yes, it doesn't mean Bic in 1999 or something. I'm gonna go 1915. Give me 1840. He lived from 1755 to 1805. Give me 1840. He lived from 1755 to 1805.

And we're still using like the same kind of pencil that he made. So a little shout out. Way to go, Nick. How are pencils doing? I feel like we're kind of post pencil society. Probably good on, what is it, the SAT or something? Scantrons. Don't you still gotta black out the thing?

Yeah. One of the birthday parties, every birthday party has a gift bag, and one of them was an unsharpened pencil. I was like, what the hell am I gonna do with this? Get a sharpener. I gotta find a sharpener and sharpen this thing? They still have to give them

to first graders and stuff, right? I don't know, I don't recall. I guess we're about to find out. I don't recall her getting, I mean, I guess we're about to find out. I hated that crank thing. Dude. But didn't you like getting the all NFL teams pencil? You ever get that as a gift?

Pretty sweet. That was great. You know what though? They sucked as the pencils, though. Yeah, but then as soon as you started churning it, you destroyed the logos. And I felt like our sharpener was always half hanging on the wall because the screws were stripped.

And then if you leaned, it would just bukkake shavings of pencil into your face. That stuff's really just gross. I don't know. Yeah, negative experience. All right, well, F Nick Conti. Well, I mean. I wish he was dead.

Oh, good thing. He is dead. Also, good thing, he is dead. Also, born on the day now dead, Helen Thomas. She was in the White House press corps for 57 years. Dude. Spanning 10 presidents. Talk about it. That's pretty kick ass.

Is it? You know, because probably somebody else who could do the job could have been doing it for the last 20 years. She was sitting there with a lifeless body, pretending to be a part of holding the government accountable. Seriously, I mean, it's the same as with the people in Congress, like you should not be able to die of old age while you're in the government. That's insane.

Or running a football team. Hey. Also Louis Vuitton, Des, or Dak, the fashion designer. He was born on this day. Pharrell. Couldn't tell you. Yeah. Is he alive?

Oh, dead. We're in deads. Couldn't tell you what? Like a year he lived? No chance, dude. He was- In fact, you could probably go down every one of those brand names and ask me is this a person and when they were alive and I would not be able to tell you. Now Louis Vuitton's a guy

and Richard Belzer died on this or excuse me born on this day. Dead on this day still dead. We have two. We have one the world's oldest person they say died on this day in 1997. Gene Kalment died at 122 years old. I think it'd be cool to be the world's oldest person and that's my goal. No. That's my goal. We have more more on that in viewer mail this week. It's my goal but I'm probably gonna get it and there'll be like some kind of Twilight Zone thing where like you know like next year I will get in an accident and be alive but in a vegetative state and I will live until I'm 125.

Right, and you'll die with the Guinness people there. Yeah. But you've been a vegetable for the last 40 years of your life. And my wife will make sure it's just some real ugly chick is my daily marriage. Boy, I gotta tell ya, I remember in the 90s learning the term vegetable,

and it felt offensive and awesome. Oh yeah, it's great. I was like, you're just calling somebody that? You're like, you just gotta, would you like wipe off my chin? Me? Yeah, if you walked in and I'm drooling. You know I would.

Yeah. You know I would, with my mouth. Yeah. I'll Yeah, if you walked in, I'm drooling. You know I would. Yeah. You know I would, with my mouth. Yeah. I'll take care of you. And died on this day still dead, J Howard Marshall. You know, T.C. and I were talking about that the other day, they might have actually been in love. He and Anna Nicole Smith?

Cause when you find out that she had a lot of problems. Anna Nicole Smith met her dad, like finally 30 years into her life and he tried to have sex with her. Yeah. Maybe she actually did like J Howard Marshall in some way they were tight. You were thinking about them having sex

for a second right there, weren't you? What? What? I knew exactly what happened. You can't prove anything. I've never watched any videos with Ann Nicole Smith making a photo shoot for Playboy on a VHS tape. Absolutely not.

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Stephanie and Chuck. I'm only listing Stephanie first because she was on the bill. She was at the top on the bill. Is that cool, Chuck? That's great. She set it up. You look a little pissed. Alright, Chuck is bringing us gifts. I didn't mean to upset him.

Okay. At first I thought... he held it like that. I thought it was a pipe. It was a bowl. I was like, not in here. What do we got here? Well, I know how y'all feel about women in burkas. Yeah, this is a, uh. I was going to say, this is pretty hot.

Yeah. What is the style of? Oh, it's a pin. Oh, my gosh. That is amazing. Gosh, so seductive. Anyways. They sell this at the gift shop?

Oh yeah. They do. Okay. That makes me happy, because I think you have in your mind if you're an American this idea of like anything related to Islam or Muslim, like that's so serious,

and boy that's way different than we treat religion. And then you go into a gift shop and there's a pin with a woman in Muslim garb on it. This is something you would find at a large truck stop in Texas. Yeah, she is hot. That makes me happy. Spencer's.

So you live, where do you live? We live in Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi. Right. That's not a country, right? No, UAE is the country. UAE. It's about an hour, about an hour from Dubai. And are things there like just as like are they more modern than here? In some things, in some ways they're 30 years behind us and in some things they're 20 years ahead of us. Like infrastructure? Yeah, infrastructure, if you want it built,

they'll have that thing built in like a day. And not cheap? Very cheap. No, but I mean it's not like they're doing like prefab, it's not cheap buildings. No, it's actual buildings because most of the people that live there, that work there, actually, it's 90% expat.

If you want construction, it's going to be your Indians and Pakistanis. And normal, like you're working in your Starbucks, things like that, it's expats from the Philippines. So it's a very expat-driven country. In fact, I want to say, what is it, last year, two years ago, they started a drive to actually start making the people actually work. Yeah, so they have, I learned about this in college.

There's something called, I don't know if they use the word over there, rentier, I think is the way the Canadians said it, but it's just a rentier state. Like they don't need taxes from their people because they have so much money coming in from oil. And the dynamic that creates is, like the people can't really, I don't know how it is in UAE

because they're fairly wealthy, but the people can't really ever bitch. Like they can't really stand up for themselves because they're getting subsidized by, you're getting whatever, 10 grand a month from the government from oil revenue. So they profit share or revenue share government, you know, income where we pay the government with the idea that if we have a problem we can do something about it. Theirs is backwards. So people don't work.

They don't have to. That's weird. Now, a couple of years ago, the president passed it to where they're trying to do what they call, I think they call it, emiratization, where a certain amount of Emiratis actually have to work now inside that business, or the business gets fined.

Yeah, it's like having two girls on your flag team. Watch TV, you just hang out. And your Range Rover, your Ferraris, whatever. Really? It's just a society of people who can live wealthy without working because they have all of the oil and they don't have that many people. And what do you do there?

I contract with Raytheon. What does that mean? It just sounds vague. Well, air defense systems. I work on, so what I did in the army was a Patriot missile system and then I started doing that as a contractor when I got out. Like what do you do with it? Basically maintain, teach, train the

Emiratis. They have their own missile systems so they bought it from the US. You know how to fire a missile system? Yes. Okay. Seems badass. Very. And what's your bit? I'm a teacher in Dubai. Oh really? Okay. English? What do you teach? Yeah, what do you teach there? I teach neurodivergent students, so like students with learning disabilities and things like that in the American middle school there. So how do you end up getting this job? Is that just in your line of work? Basically, a lot of the other other military anybody that gets out of the military There's not much if you don't have a certain MOS or a FSC

You don't have much for you on the outside you tend to stay in line with what you did in the service and then Of course when Raytheon and the contractors offer you jobs doing exactly what you did in the army except getting paid and the contractors offer you jobs doing exactly what you did in the Army except getting paid hundred times more. Really? Yeah, you just... You're making good money over there? I make decent money. If I come back here, it's not the same. That's why we stay over there. Okay, and you have kids here? Right. Two kids going to D1 schools, it costs a lot of money, so that also influences me staying away. Okay. Yeah, what's the time difference? Nine hours. So that's probably a big beating. It is. It is. My body's telling me to go to sleep right now.

Oh, how long have you been back? Just a couple weeks. We fly back on Thursday, actually. Okay. And do you have Find My Phone on your kids and stuff so you see where they are? I don't. I don't like it. She believes in it. Life 360. I don't like, I feel like that's too much, the 360. I think it, imagine living on the other side of the world though. I feel like you'd... Well, 360 tells you like, exactly like their whole history of what they've been doing today. Find my phone, it's like I can see, oh she's at her apartment or they're not there. I don't know. Well, I don't like it too. I feel

weird. Like it's some invasion of privacy. We didn't have that. You know, you never knew. It was kind of cool that you could just not be where everybody knew you where you were. Yeah, I don't even think I got a cell phone until like 2002. I think it was 2001, 2002. Yeah. Sorry Stephanie. I interrupted you. You were yapping on about some shit. Just 360. It can give you a lot of information, but when our older daughter, she started driving, I was able to make sure, you know, is she being safe? And that's great. And then my younger daughter, she just got her license. So yeah, I'll probably watch her. And you're shaking your head.

One place to another. I'm just thinking because I was not safe. Right. Back in the night, I would have got destroyed by my dad. And you're shaking your head. One place to another. I'm just thinking because I was not safe. Right. Back in the night, I would have got destroyed by my dad. And this is where, so I had a lady trying to give me a sales pitch on 360 because she's like, oh, you know where your daughter is and all, she's safe. And she goes, here, let me take a look and I'll show you.

And then so she's showing me, this is like a parent of one of my daughter's friends. And she's like, look here, let me, I can just kind of show you my husband. I'll show you him yesterday. And then she's like, oh Jesus, oh my God. Like she couldn't believe he was driving 90 miles an hour to get to the club, the golf club or something. And I'm like, now she's all pissed at her husband.

For something she would have never needed to know about. Right, and then my wife is like, we should get on this 360 thing. Because I hear all the moms at school are like, oh, you got to get on this. And I'm like, absolutely not. We're not doing it. Well, and then she's like, oh, I think we should. And I go, OK, well, you work on it because I'm not doing it.

And then, yeah, it just went away. A lot of things just go away if you just. You know how it is. You guys have a passive aggressive arrangement like I have at home? Where you just kind of... Absolutely. Yeah, it ends up going away, right? It's two genders. What do you expect? Yeah. So what's... There are only two. What's just like weekend recreation? Do you just have expat friends over there? Do you have any... Have you made friends who are, like, do you have Emirati friends? So, actually over there, I work with two of my former soldiers. So, actually one of them called me and asked me

if I wanted the job over there, and that's how I got over there. And they have families and stuff there too? They do. That's sick. That's cool. And on the weekends, you can pretty much do anything you want. They've got the, we got the F-1 track there as well. We go watch that. You want a Guinness, you can pretty much do anything you want. They've got the we got the F1 track there as well. We go watch that.

You want a Guinness, you just walk around. It's about a five minute walk from my house. You go to the Irish pub, have a Guinness, you know, whatever, just everything's available there. They have everything you could want to do. Four hour brunches are a big deal over there. Oh yeah. Yeah. So they have brunches at the at the pubs there where

it takes me forever. I still can't call it brunch because it doesn't start till three in the afternoon. That's not brunch to me but they call it brunch. You pay 189 Durham for all you can eat all you can drink. That's like 70 bucks US and you can put away some alcohol. 70 bucks is not much. And it's all you can drink for four hours straight. Have you had your kids come visit you? Uh, Brienne, yes. My oldest that was in college before, she comes visit during the summer. And now that we're sending the other one off to college,

they'll be coming back in the summer. Would you allow us to do a show there if we could get Blake over there? Absolutely. OK. Wouldn't that be awesome? Yes. No. That's what sucks about the kids growing up and moving away. You don't have this. He's got this great excuse. I can't. I got a kid thing. Dude, I'm sorry I can't go to Abu Dhabi. My kid has soccer. Yeah. You can go have a beer at the top of the Burj Khalifa. Tallest building in the world? Sounds great.

Tallest building. Right now, there'll be another one soon, I hear, for the next couple years. Weren't they building something over there that was like some- The palms. Big giant whatever- The fake islands? You know about that? Yeah. It was like the world. The world islands. So right now, only one of the islands.

I think they call it, it's the European island. That's the only one that's inhabited. COVID kind of killed the bringing that up. But they have the Palm Jumeirah right now that's completely established and set up. And that's where you'll find your rich hotels like the Atlantis, the Atlantis Water Park. And it's just on a man-made island.

That's shaped like a palm. And now they have a palm Jebel Ali that they're starting to build out to, which is another giant palm shaped like a palm there. And Disney, they just signed Disney to open a park there in Abu Dhabi. And what time does the Dumb Zone podcast usually hit your feed? I download it in the mornings about 4.15 when I wake up to go to work. Okay, the new ones there waiting for you? Yeah. So my drive is two and a half hours one way to my site.

Jesus, every day? Every day. So I listen to a lot of podcasts. Is that a common commute? Yeah, why don't you live two hours closer? There's no place. My site is literally in the middle of the desert, almost to the Saudi border. Whoa. So there's no place to live out there. So how long do you leave it? Do you know how hard it rules to think that there's a guy like headed toward Riyadh, carrying missiles, listening to a Tom's Own podcast.

So you're upset that our show, you're saying our show isn't long enough. Yeah, it could be longer. Yeah, because we're always worried that two and a half hour show is too long. Doing it for Dubai. We're three hours. Round it out about five hours. That'll be perfect. Do it for Dubai.

So how many hours do you work then? It depends. So we have a set amount of hours during the day, but I'm on call 24 hours. Yeah, what were you saying? He's home hours before me. I am. Sometimes.

OK, so he shows up, waves, shakes a couple hands, drives back home. Sometimes. But when they call, when we're broken down, like 11 at night, 1 in the morning, I got to go. So he's got these answers for you, right? Well yeah, but it's not that often. I'm on call.

To answer the question. Passive aggressive. But you know, there's no harder job than being a school teacher, really, in our audience. Other than maybe a mom. I think you should get the extension that Micah's looking for. I think they should pay you like that guy at Metta

who got like a billion dollars four years anyways. You guys are the best. Are we done? Do you have any other remarks? No? Okay. We'll keep them emails coming. All right.

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