The Dumb Zone FREE - DZ 8-6-25 | Blake's baby name revealed and Ethan Strauss

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneBlake's baby is here! He joins us live from the hospital. We then settle into an in-depth chat with basketball writer Ethan Strauss. We get his take on Luka's fitness tour, the NFL and the rash of dildos being thrown on basketball courts.  ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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I think I left my water in the car. Have Henry run to your car? You, my friend, anything but Shep. Ooh, I might need to send Henry to my car to lock it. I ran out to look for my new earbuds, which I love. I love using it. As my wife would say, I just want to do what Jake does. Jake wears the earbuds.

They're very comfortable for me. And, of course, as I ran back in, I realized they're in my pocket. Yeah. But what time, right? Clayton, what'd you have me at? Anyway, I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake, I'm T.C. Fleming. And T.C. in for Blake.

and Clayton, Kimbrough is here as well. Intern Henry is here. So I doubt TC has the ability to pull this list up, but sheveled. Is anybody like, boy, nice running into you, you seem very shoveled? You do seem shoveled. Because whatever you were just doing now was disheveled. I am disheveled. Yes.

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We had been in the den of inequality for a while. I don't know how this is being painted. Is it a big win for Dan? He stepped out of the door for the car with four minutes to go on the countdown. He was back with one minute on the countdown, and he's using the headphones right now. Smoke to SIG. It's all good. Everything's good.

Life is good. Everything's great. Did you send the link to Blake? Did you tell Blake that we'd have him on if he wants to do a link? I didn't send him a link. I think Clayton did. Okay, yeah. Anyway, Blake had a baby. Like, in very Blake style, he's just like, we had the baby.

Like, he texted it. We don't know anything about it. That's not all he said. I don't know the name. No, I don't know the name. He just said, sorry, it's alive and healthy. because we had debated various media strategies for maladies and misfortune for his child. What you have to do is prep. And you don't see that behind the scenes.

But yes, we were prepared if he had an Abby and Brittany baby for what to do and how we would handle it. And by the way, that would be with the utmost of respect. Yes. Of course. Yeah. And you're just excited to raise awareness. And by respect, you mean sponsorship. Yeah.

And we get to name it. Right. Sell those names. It's an extra name. Sure. A lot of real estate. Anyway. So he said, unfortunately, it's a healthy baby.

But we don't know anything about it. We don't know the gender. I think it's a guy. A boy, right? Yeah. But nowadays, I think you wait. Or no, wait. We assign it at birth now.

I think you do it when you're letting off in it. Because when you were having a kid, I think the kid got to choose, like, once they were four or something. Four is early? Is it? Yeah. We let him feel it all. all the way out till they get their driver's license. That's the first time you actually have to declare it.

He says he's in the hallway and he can step out. I was at a kid. He's still at the thing? Yeah, he said to, hoping to go home tonight. They had the baby like yesterday afternoon. I thought they go home that day, no? No, you're getting to 24 at least, almost certainly, right? We were there.

I mean, I guess it's different circumstances, but for three days. Yeah, with Nora obviously was different. I was there for 90s, but Carter was a couple. Had the baby overnight. Yeah, why else would you have needed a babysitter for time? We were there. No, no, no, that was the C-section. They demand that the ladies stay overnight. But I had a young child at home. I got to run home and take care of her. So I left my wife in the hospital by herself that night. Well, there's like nurses and people there. She was. Yeah, what is this? She was great. Leeches. Anyway, on today's program, lots of sports. We have Ethan Strauss, our good media. buddy let's see i got viewer mail written down but i'm not sure that we're going to have time

we got a lot of stuff going on we may we'll do that on friday but i do have some great mail you know what i think would be an okay idea is to like 50 50 it why don't we do a little today at least a few today at least 90 10 it sure and yeah and tc's in here for uh blake so that's awesome you know tc from being tc and it's just banter. Dirtbag Culture Hour. Where Scott Griggs's campaign. The Dirt Bad Culture Hour,

big fan, unfortunate amount of frequency for the dirtbag culture. It's just... Done an episode since May, I think. I know. That's what I'm saying. When you want to do a podcast

with the drummer for Ringo Stars Band. It's tough to pin that guy down. Time is going to be. Find when the heroin needle isn't hanging out of his arm. I mean, he's, it's interesting, man. Like, I'm very fortunate to know him. But if you, if you don't know anybody who's like a musician of that level, they are always just working.

Like, he's flying, he's going somewhere to help someone record something. It's, I don't think he is just off, really ever. So. That seems to be the case. Well, I want to do this before we, while we wait for Blake, and I know you got something to touch on. But we do have a new sponsor. I am pretty fired up that we have a flooring direct.

DFW, Flooring Direct DFW is our new sponsor because one of the things that we have, it's pretty cool to get to know the sponsors that we have and then know that they're going to be cool with the listener and everything, like Brian over at Qualis and then Travis over a community mechanical. but I've known Dan at Flooring Direct for like literally 20 years. He's an awesome dude, and I know they're running their business right and all that kind of stuff. You can tell because they got a banger of a jingle. This is not made by Jake, so you know it's good. Don't you like this one? Oh, my God. This is the inspiration.

Listen. What else do you need to know? You can know the website. Oh, you probably, that is important, yes. Maybe a couple details. Go ahead. Go ahead. Direct.DFW.com slash DZ.

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Like things you don't think about. You're like, I want new floors. Well, there's a lot of hassle that comes with that. they take care of all of it. The other thing they take care of right now with their back-to-school special is 36 months, zero interest and nothing down. TC could get these floors.

36 months, nothing down at flooring direct, DFW.com slash DZ or 972-449. That's important part, the whole website. Oh, give the rest of the thing. Go ahead. Let me tell you what happened. A week ago, I was no long, a week ago.

I know the... A week ago, we've got the best prices at Flooring Direct. A week ago, I was not giving phone numbers, and then Dan was like, read the phone number. And then we talked to Dan from Flooring Direct, and he's like, the phone number doesn't really matter. Yeah, he's like, give that. Now Dan is cutting me off. Yeah, no, I try to, this is why we love, our clients like to work with us, because we're like, we'll do what you want. I mean, I will.

Jake, he'll kind of do what he wants. But that's part of the whole fun here. Anyway, thanks to our brand new sponsor, Flooring Direct. We now welcome Blake Jones to the program. He appears to be walking through. I don't find a quiet place. A hospital. Go to the chapel.

That's a great idea. I might. But hey, I kind of need some new floors. Do you know of a phone number I could call somebody to get a new floor? The phone number is not in this jingle. It's 97-24-4-9. Nine, nine, four, six, six, it's four ring the rats. Great, thank you.

I'll recut it after the show. I don't know why it's funny to me, but it's funny that Blake wears a baseball cap and a maternity, whatever you call it. We're looking at female POV here, too. Dude, I don't know. I see the little underboob. Holding the phone up is weird.

This is all just. Yeah, hold it, do it like I see the lady in the grocery store. Just hold it right in front of you and put it on the speaker. Hey, do some man on the street. See if we can find somebody in there. Yeah, give me a naughty nurse. What's your bit? Okay.

Okay. No, I'm not going to hold the phone up like this. Where are you? It's crazy. What hospital are you at? Where was he born? Texas Health Plano. Plano.

Was he born on Jake's birthday, or did it happen after midnight? He shares a birthday with Jake. Dude, and you know what's sick? 8525. I'm 858. 8.85 is a great birthday. Oh, yeah. Tell people for everything, you'll always know.

new password on your thing yeah yeah what's his uh so it's a boy yeah name is is it time for the name rate it's up to you that's what jake's all about yeah i'm just afraid of getting roasted um all right his name is benson adrian jones they'll go by bennie i think i like it and i also know you just named your kid after cedric benson It was pretty good. It's a beautiful thing that I've done. I might have gone Victor. Victor, Adrian Jones.

I, uh, I like it. I like it. For the acronym. I actually really like it. Benson. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it is close to douchebag. Um, but it's just country enough and their family is like, nice country. Why Benson?

Is this you? Your name or her name? Uh, great question. Yeah, which is why I didn't tell very many people. Here's the other thing. He also named him after Benny from Sandlot. Now, see, I've got to take the head off. I look just like him.

Look at how sweaty he is. He looks always a mess. You haven't showered in a day? You're not very shoveled, though. Yeah, you are not shoveled. The couch they give you to sleep on is horrible. And they're in every hour during the night. It's not a fun experience.

But, no, I played sports with a Benny. I always thought that was a really cool nickname. so I tried to work off of that. That's a six boys' name. And then, yeah, number 32 for the Texas Longhorns. I don't sure. Yeah, no doubt. Ben Dejo.

Not just number 32 for the Texas Longhorns, I believe, scored 15 touchdowns across three state championship games for Permian, right? Midland. Midland. Midland, Odessa. I think Midland Lee was his high school. Also, fun fact, not alive. Yeah, so could be the spirit as inhabiting a child,

which would be nice. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. How'd you arrive at Adrian? Did you say that already? That's her grandpa's name. Cool.

Yeah. I don't like that's cool, but it's... But that was my opinion. And you got badge. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I like it.

Because Burke's got your grandpa's name, right? Yeah. And so she facetimed her grandma and told her, hey, we named him Adrian after your husband. and she started crying is a big thing. When I told my grandpa that we named him after him, he told me that you should have picked someone better to name him after. I told you you were gay. That's an honest man.

What's Brooks' middle name? Thomas. Okay, so I'm going to go, I'm putting him slightly above, but it's still a great name. Yeah. Still a great name. And Benny just really does it because you know the kid's going to hit. He's going to be a shortstop.

Like, that's a name for the athlete Blake is. Brooks will beat him up I'm glad it passed Brooks has to beat him up as he grows older Benny came out at 9.7 pounds so I think Benny's gonna kick Brooks's ass What does that? Yeah, give me some context What was Brooks and he's a big boy?

Brooks was huge at 8.6 Ooh man that's really weird I mean Blake's stout but his wife's a teeny little thing Yeah I guess they have big babies I don't know

But no we're all good over here All right then How much have you spent on meals I know you were upset yesterday At having to pay for a meal at the hospital It's like being in the airport right You're stuck in there Here's your $5 water

Yeah but to some degree Like you chose to go to the airport Like there are people here that are not having the best time And you want to make a little money off of them That seems weird Yeah But As Angelo texted you

That's great Did you tell him Congratulations, text. No, but I kind of made friends with an Angelo type up here. So maybe I just... Brother. Maybe they just flocked to me. I think they do.

You look like that guy. Yeah. Well, no, they avoid me. He's down the road that I went to this morning and Jake you're right at the omelet slaps. Yo, dude, listen, I'm telling everybody out there in the Metroplex, there's not a better deal than the Eatsy's omelet because they charge you like $10 for a four-eg meat at vegetable omelette. It's two

meals. And it's fantastic. They put it in a great container for to go. Did anybody like the extra stitch joke? No, that one didn't land. I just said since you're down there. Yeah. Did you go down there? Yeah, I traveled south.

Nice. A little more this time. And the people over hearing me are going to love this part. But you ever had like a confident night in the bedroom where you're like yeah i did good let me stop you there no just trust me just trust me you didn't okay it's just not possible cavern no yeah a lot of acting was my takeaway a lot of acting going she does a great job makes me feel good did uh did you do like me and snap a couple pictures just to be able to remember that down there oh my god no we got a little

down there in the video but I was videoing from the umpire position and then she's she's very concerned about somebody seeing a pub of hers it's it's very weird like what's the big deal it's no one's getting hot over this listen man I can tell you based on what I saw at my scene pubes were the least of her yeah yeah it's a weird scene but I think Jake I think you were talking about like you you love the nurses for Carter and we loved our nurse we loved everyone and then they're like okay well we'll see you later like you just grow fond of these people who helped you in like a life moment and then you'll never see them again and they'll never remember you because they do this all the time it's very weird does your wife kind of stunt on

them a little bit since she's a nurse like if they miss the vein yeah they speak the same language yeah so you kind of let them know early on like I kind of know what you're talking about so don't talk to me like an idiot yeah that's got I feel like that That's how you got, like my stepdad with cops. He used to kind of be like, hey, let's just flex a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. We might go home tonight, which would be cool.

You can be back tomorrow? No, I probably can. Dan booked Ethan. Oh, cool. That's sick. Yeah. Well, anyways, man, have a great day. Hey, thanks, guys.

See you. Congratulations. That's what we meant. Congratulations. Blake Jones. Thank you, T.C. Boy, dad. Boy, dad.

It's easy to be a boy dad. You don't have to walk around with shame like I do. I'd have a quick question. What kind of deodorant do you guys use? I don't want to tell you. Is it like all natural? Are you maha? No, I've said it before and you made fun of me for about 20 minutes.

I don't remember and I'm a different person now. What about you, Dan? I don't know, some kind of man deodorant. So I just use like the basic. Beach flavor. Yeah, right. I also like it. I use, it's just a degree.

Yeah, degree. I like dry. I don't like gel, because I'm sweaty and it just like, I don't know it. I don't even know what gel is. Well, not gel, but like there's dry. The aerosol spray? No. They'll have somewhere like you rotate it and like a little liquid gel comes out.

And it's just a slimy or feeling. Yeah. I think some people like it because it's cooler. Yeah, yeah. I like the dry white deodorant. So I went to go buy deodorant the other day. and I could not find the Deodor, the Dan and I used, just the green degree, right?

And I think it is called like Spring Rush or something. But I couldn't find it. And I found another thing of degree, which was shaped differently. And it's this, okay? Now, when you guys see this, what do you think? That's a lady. That is a lady that is for women. It is made for women. It is for women.

They make it tinier for their tiny little hands. And lighter. Yeah. Like the colors more... It probably smells more ladyish. It's more feminine in the packaging. Or the more the way they want to smell. What I wanted to note was...

It is strong enough for a man, though. Yeah, exactly. It might have been them, wasn't it? Well, in any case, they didn't appear to have my type of deodorant. And this doesn't say female or lady or women anywhere on it. And I think it's one of the only lady products that doesn't. You're just supposed to understand it's lighter and shape different. Like they didn't say lady tampons.

Yeah, but they don't make male ones. They make a male version of this deodorant. And why not? It doesn't say men. And this smells exactly the same. And so my wife was like, you bought lady deodorant. She's all making fun of you. Big time.

And I'm like, I don't. But you guys all immediately were like lady deodorant. Oh, yeah. Just by the look of it. Yeah. Why weren't you? Why didn't you know that? Because they didn't have my other one, and I was like, well, what's the difference?

I'm going to try it. Do you think this smells overly feminine? Here. It's shower clean flavor. Smells delicious. No, and I like a nice, what's wrong with a little feminine smell? Well, I don't even care, but I don't think it smells that much like feminine. And it doesn't say lady on it.

So I was like, is there a chance they just changed the packaging? No look? What a great catch. And throw. I just feel like LeBron and Wade in front of the. the dunk right there. Can I be LeBron? Thank you.

You know you're always LeBron, bud. Before Ethan gets here, do you want to touch on a sports topic or two? Yeah, I'll play you... Oh, yeah, I know what to do here. Let's say it's brought to us by Window Nation. Let's get a Window Nation love out there. They're one of our other new sponsors this week.

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and a chance to win a pair of home game tickets. Oh, boy. That's right, windownation.com. All right, go ahead. So quick sports note is I went to the Rangers game last night. Dan and I have come to find out how people get free stuff Is have a business And a bank, our bank that we work with

Had some sweet tickets Wow And initially it was like do we want to go for the show I wanted to maybe see if Blake wanted to bring Brooks But obviously he was tied up I was in an unfortunate spot Where these tickets had been offered on the date of my birthday So it definitely looked as if I was organizing

organizing my own 40th birthday outing to a Rangers game with another couple in their son, one of my wife's friends, my parents, my wife's mom was there. If you're going to have us go to a game, you should make it in a suite.

A sweet, Yankee. Where is the suite? Like, almost behind home plate, maybe offset by 15 degrees of home plate to the right. Could we have seen you on TV? Definitely. Well, not from the,

It was in the middle. Speaking of birthday, can I interrupt this? Hightwise, it was in the middle. Birthday story with a birthday present because I forgot to bring it yesterday and I bought it months ago. Yeah. I got you a birthday present.

Okay, cool. Henry, will you come over here and just transport this to Blake or to Jake? What happened to the LeBron de Wade? Well, I don't want to throw this. This is not a basketball. But what it is is before you quit. But I also know you quit baseball.

So hand him that. It's a I bought that for you And I hope you can Just take it on our trip and give us a report I will read this while we're gone Let's see it on camera This is the importance of being earnest

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it. I'll read this. Jim Barney. It looks like an amazing title. It really is. It's also the name of the documentary they have coming out. It looks dense and like I might have to read it again. Yeah. Church. Yeah. It's 90% pictures. People are saying. So there I was doing Ernest goes to Africa. No. So took the whole family out there. Shout out to our banker, Dan Bailey, Dan Bailey, the banker. Boy, that's a beating.

Everybody, everybody introduce him to it. Like the kicker. I looked at my wife. I'm like, did you have to, he probably gets that. Oh. Yeah, I'm Dad Bailey. Like the kicker. Yeah.

But it was a great game, man. I mean, I think I sleep on how funny Evaldi is. Like, he just wins player of the month. And you're like, oh, God, just every time this guy goes out of it. How did he not? He's just cruising. How did they not add him to the All-Star team? Doesn't that seem really weird?

Well, I think part of it was, you know, the qualification thing. he was just barely at it so he would have had to have been like added differently or something Jared explained that to us because he made, but still and he's just as much as like it's cool to watch a de Grom or somebody who's just chill

you've all these just stomping around like a madman out there and you look up and he's got a one hitter in like the six or the seventh and it was just fun man that I wish we were still at the old place but it's very hard not to be in there with your family in August

in thinking, like, God, this is perfect. Which side was Romo on? You were right or your left. Last time I was in a suite at the gilf, I was with T.C. And I was there when the Dodgers won the World Series in a suite next to Tony Romo, which, incidentally, I believe, is the incident that got yesterday's guest, Bobby Dodd,

uh, canceled because after the Dodgers won that COVID World Series, they tried to do a celebration and it looked a little odd for Gavin Newsom, And just think about the surreal scene I'm telling you. Like, hey, we can play this game in Texas. And then a guy leaves the game with COVID. They're like, oh, he tested this morning. We talked about it yesterday. It was just insane.

Yeah. But so last night, you know, it's a no scoring game. And then you get an opportunity with a couple on for rowdy to Les to come to the plate. And the crowds are just, they can't get enough of it, dude. It got rowdy chance. that's why rowdy chance the people are flashing like uh it was awesome the like people he's incredible it was great i mean just let over sean wear his number the way he talks and the way he looks uh he's incredible i know he's not that great but maybe he'll just catch a little

something here and listen uh i'm trending in the wrong direction on jock peterson it's two games like one game and one pinch hit but i mean he was productive last night it was a lot of fun man good times um i mean look they're in it right like this is kind of all you ask for your baseball your local baseball team to be in the mix in august oh i you know what i had one other one other funny uh rangers note for you i saw jared sandler tweet this this morning do you recall back around uh july fourth weekend when kevin pilar had exited the uh ranger clubhouse and ultimately ended up retiring he was here for a couple months and he made some comments that hey listen when i was there i kind of thought the team would be tighter like there's a lot of

guys doing stuff i'm i was just for the listener oh i'm trying uh the like the guys weren't stretching together they all do their own thing they go to their own hitting instructors you kind of just don't see anybody until it's time for you know basically time to go and that was right up our rally to have the debate of like what does it matter is it is that why the team is struggling and i do think that those kind of things matter on the margins and it matters depending on the team and the sport but kevin pilar that day was like this team's just not together you know i was kind of an outsider maybe because of the world series team but they just didn't seem like a tight team well uh they went on a tear in july uh and suddenly he had time to reflect on his comments

As time has passed, I've taken some time to let the dust settle, but one all to still address a couple things. First off, always will be thankful for the opportunity. The Rangers gave me, always cherish it. Secondly, I live in DFW. Not a day has gone by that I haven't been in front of a TV rooting for the boys. It was only a matter of time before the boys started playing like everyone knew that they could. I was fresh off being released.

Everyone, yeah, more than likely the end of my playing career. How is playing at that point in time despite only being 40 or so at bats? I could understand the front office and what they were trying to accomplish. and my heart of hearts I believe I could have helped the team but with my exit a lot of great things have happened with the team so basically he's not like saying I'm sorry I said that but now that they're good again

he's coming out and saying I don't know maybe I shouldn't have said they're not that tight maybe they are yeah or they just got like I would have just like a little more I think I would have been good you know you're right yeah some more at bads all of all of the played appearances that Corey Seeger was able to give you that might have been why they were able to get, like, back on track? I just have, I rarely see the double back on the, I think they're, like, it would be like if, you know, you said, hey, I think they're winning because this guy died and they started losing and you're like, well, actually, I don't think they cared in the first place. It's a weird position to put yourself in.

So I have kind of a, it is a little bit Ranger Talk. Oh, we have a guest? Gucci. Okay, well, then I will not get into this because. Unless you want to do it with him, I doubt he cares, but. He might care because it is just, you've got me into going to the sauna. Yes. But I've never been in a sauna where there's a show going on in there with old men.

And there were four old men or three old men in there talking. They're upset with Jock Peterson. One guy is going to push into Zone 4 to improve his BOT Max, which helps with anti-age. I have no, I just thought maybe you've heard of this stuff. Of course, the heart rate thing. There was a debate over whether Whoopi Goldberg was Jewish or not. That's a great debate. A lot of evidence on both sides.

Which I think all started with one guy saying how he didn't like Adam Sandler. And then the guy number two didn't like Whoopi or Adam Sandler. But they both agreed that Queen Latifah is great. Does Ethan Strauss care about any of these things? Ethan Strauss is from the House of Strauss substack, awesome. He's got a great podcast. He has,

oh, what do we got here? Let's see here. He used to cover the Warriors for the Athletic. It was a beat writer for ESPN. The Victory Machine. The Victory Machine. Good dude.

Ladies and gentlemen, Ethan Strauss. Oh my God. I'm so flattered that you've got my intro music going, guys. How am I doing? Testing. testing one, two, three. Can you hear me all right? Can I ask you a question with a potentially

bear trap answer? Sure. Why did I stop calling you Ethan Sherwood Strauss? I mean, that was a personal choice that you made. I can't get into your head. But back in the day, I put all three names there. I think I was in my early 20s. I was at salon.com. I thought it sounded good. I didn't actually expect anybody to read anything written by me. And then at a certain point, it just felt a little pretentious. And I remember when family guy was saying that the godfather, Peter Griffin's critique of it was that it insists upon itself. That's how I felt about saying everybody should say my middle name all the time. But I guess a lot of people still did. And I guess it's in my Twitter handle. And here's what I think. I think more people should be, what's the

word I'm looking for? Whatever the polyamorous word would be for names. I think people should be amenable to that. I don't like when somebody with a sour face says, no, it's Tara, not Tara, like that. Why can't it be a few different things? If somebody wants to say my middle name, that's cool. If they don't, that's cool. If they want to call me Nathan or Ian,

I'm not even going to raise a stink about it. It's fine. As long as the check clears. How are you guys doing? Fantastic, and that's the answer I wanted. Yeah, it's the curse of having a great middle name. Like, you want to use it, and then people start using it, and you're like, boy, this looks like an asshole move. Yeah. Yeah, that's not something you happen.

that happens upon us, New Testament babies, where all of our names are just right from the New Testament. So I'm going to start with this. I thought your discussion with Spike Eskin on the Luca article was awesome. You know, it was very tough to stomach around here because I think you're big on this wall, but I can sense that this narrative is being rewritten in real time. Ten years from now, no one's even going to remember. His Dallas career will be a footnote, and it's all about LeBron.

in L.A. and the Mamba mentality. But the funniest thing that you guys stumbled on to me was the idea of this AI article, right? So clearly the guy, the writer had used some AI. There were some incorrect facts in there. And I've been laughing for like a week over the idea. It sounds like a comtown bit. The idea that this writer, he wrote this article,

but then people are like, I think you use some chat GPT. and he was like, yeah, I use chat GPT on part of it, the part where I was writing about a dude's body because I'm not gay. Were you right about dudes? You write about dudes and are their muscles? Of course I used a robot. I'm not gay.

And that just to me is the greatest journalistic defense. Like, yeah, of course. I only use LLMs when I'm not being a homo. I have journalistic practices. Do you make the actors and actresses actually have penetrative sex in the TV or movies? Right. Come on.

We can stop short there. Yeah. I want to pull it up. Have you guys done any dramatic readings from that article? Because the phraseology in it is just, it's something else, man. It's steamy at one point. It is a chat GP sexy. It's amazing. Yeah, it's just like whatever. The world is getting to know Luca now. So a lot of people who don't know anything about basketball or like you see he's on the Today show. And I heard you guys, I heard you guys doing that too. Like, why? Why is he doing this? Jake is saying it's all Nike related. Yeah, that makes some sense. I like that idea. Although Jordan Brand is a weird thing. I don't think they've ever really successfully had a signature shoe guy. Maybe Russell Westbrook was the closest. They're always stuck with that

Robert Downey Jr. Tropic Thunder problem of I'm a dude disguises another dude, acting like another dude. I'm Michael Jordan, but I'm also me. And I'm under the Jordan umbrella. It never really works, but the ad campaign for Bad Luca quite inspired by them. And I think that there might be a little something there. I'd resent it if I was a Dallas person that all of a sudden, you know, you say Luca in Dallas, ugh, nobody wants that signature shoe, flabby European white guy, yuck. But now these with the Lakers. Ooh, there's a little groundswell of something here. But it's true. There's a little groundswell of something there. And part of that's also just the crazy circumstances of the trade that probably made him an order of magnitude more famous just because it was so insane.

It's been a couple months since we talked to you. Maybe it was right after the Luca trade. Yeah, that might have been the last time. So when I listen to House of Strauss, I will occasionally write a note down. And because I'm me, I don't sometimes remember exactly what it was about. So I'm just going to take a shot and see... This is fun. You were talking Luca a while ago.

Mm-hmm. And you had a really good thing when you were doing a Luca, therefore, and but. Do you recall that? A Luca, therefore, and butt. Is this what the South Park creators have talked about where everything in a story needs to be connected by a therefore or a however?

I wonder, but how would, how in the hell... Because I just watched a South Park thing where they were talking about that. Yeah. How in the hell would you have related that to Luke? That's what I can't figure out. I have another note that I think you can quickly answer. My note is,

Got High with Don Nelson. Oh, yeah, that did happen. That didn't go well for me. You did? That went very poorly. Yeah. You were at his Hawaii. We've always heard about his Hawaii whatever he's got and...

Farm. What is it? Woody Harrelson might be there. Like poker. Willie Nelson. I don't know. And, okay, give us that. I was I was about to start reading some steamy men's health Luca oh okay we can go set that aside

yeah let's set that aside we'll talk about we'll talk about getting high with don Nelson and how that went that went disastrously that was one of the just great examples of my life where the bare bones sound like something amazing that you would brag about but you don't want to actually live the reality the reality did not go so great so I was in Maui with my wife and I figured I could get a little work done vacation I knew he was down there I knew Donne Nelson someone's down there. And I was writing articles for the athletic. And so I'm looking for a big crazy hit article something somebody else isn't doing. I think this is back in maybe 2019, something like that. And I get connected with Don Nelson, who I don't know, but we know

mutual people through the warriors and all of that. And I want to talk to him. He's become this big advocate for smoking weed. He put down the bottle. He picked up the bong. That's an interesting thing to me. I look at it without judgment, but I'm curious. about it. And so he says, yeah, arrive at the spot. I arrive at the spot with my wife. It's all a little chaotic. Nobody's really helping us into anything, but I'm trying to text and get in there. We get into this poker room, this famous poker room that I think has the painting with Willie Nelson and Owen Wilson and all that stuff. And I swear, it is like that scene in Boogie Knights with the Jesse's girl and the firecrackers.

It's so chaotic and crazy. It's filled with smoke. There was some horrific shooting, mass shooting that day. There's a huge big screen TV and it's nothing but coverage on this horrible thing at full volume. Full volume. Is that better or worse than the guy who puts on porn at the bachelor party? It's what's wants some big screen coverage of carnage here.

That's not the vibe. It depends on how. your wife would react to it. My wife was there. She's looking at me just going, what is this? But Nellie's down to smoke, so he offers me some weed. He has this, I think he calls it Sherlock is his pipe slash bong, whatever. That thing hits me hard. And there's just blaring graphic, terrible footage. The place, no offense to him, is kind of gross. He's got his feet up on the pool table. There are toenail clippings all over. He's got this, he's got this friend named Amir who's a nice guy, but Amir is kind of weird. I don't know where Amir came from

and all they're talking about is real estate around Santa Cruz and buying real estate. And that's all they're kind of jabbering about. And I start asking Don Nelson questions, but I'm trying to ask him questions for the article. I've got the recorder out. And there's this distinct moment where everything turns, everything turns left. Everything goes bad. I am trying to relate to We are not generationally in the same spot. So I bring up the reporter, legendary Bay Area reporter Tim Kawakami. And Nellie's fake. Yeah, he does that.

He does. Yeah, Tim's got an edge, my former boss. I love him, but he's got an edge. Yep. Tim, I guess, made a similar impression on Nellie because Nellie makes a face and goes, I call him Tim Kamikaze. Of course he does. And there's a moment because Nellie's all high.

and he's old and he starts just worrying that I'm going to report that as this racist thing that he said and that's not this is many years later that's not what I was there to do I wasn't just going to go to Twitter

and go Don Nelson just called my boss some sort of Japanese slur type of thing but he doesn't know me so I've got no trust he offered me in there he invited me in but he doesn't trust me at all and now he's getting all weird

he's getting uncomfortable I'm asking about his alcoholism and he just kicks me out he kicks me and my wife out I'm super high he's super high Amir is jabbering about real estate in Watsonville

and then I forgot my backpack there I go back in and Amir and Nelly I'm trying to even remember what they said when I return they said something like

okay good that's that's that's good that's good wonderful and I said oh so you want to continue the interview and then they turn and they go, no, we're looking at the real estate.

We're talking about the real estate. Yeah, you know, I think you described it perfectly at the outset. Like, you hear the idea, but. And you have, if he offers you, you have to. Sure. You're at Don Nelson. Yeah. Gotta for the story.

But I do think it cuts to something that's a little bit taboo. I don't know how everybody in your audience thinks about weed and all that. I do think that, I think because it was draconian to make. weed illegal, there was almost this pushback on the other side to act like it was spinach and act like there's nothing, nothing that can go wrong with your life if you're smoking a bunch of weed. And I think like a lot of things, all things of moderation. And look, kids, as I learned from hanging out with Don Nelson, I think that man smokes too much weed. I'm just going to put it out there. That's what I think. Well, you know what I say, when somebody talks to me, Ethan,

about weed in moderation. I tell them to go to early bird CBD.com. Use the code DZ20, where you can get 20% off on your order, even if you used our previous code. Because here in Texas, Ethan, it's became a weed ad. The laws are, well, it's not weed.

It's a very small amount of use. Well, there is two and a half milligrams of THC. Right. Yeah, mixed with the CBD. But it works. I thought you'd appreciate the, It works. I was hoping you'd appreciate me weaving it in this way because you open the door.

And, of course, like I said, if you've here in Texas, the laws, they are a changing. Yeah. So now if you live where Ethan lives, well, you don't have to worry about that. You got weed everywhere you look. But here you might- You punish you for not being high out. Right. Right.

Early bird CBD.com is what you need here in Texas. And, you know, use that code DZ20. Take the edge off it. Get a little taste. There you go. It's interesting you bring that up. Thank you for the door opening, Ethan. I think I would describe a large part of your cultural criticism as a, are we sure about this?

I feel like we went too far here. And that's kind of how I feel watching the Sydney-Sweeney thing play out. I don't have like strong opinions on it, but Dan and I were talking about it yesterday. And, you know, I think his point was kind of like, I don't feel like American. Eagle is actually trying to do anything, you know, racist or something here. But my thought was we just lived through the performative, I'm going to say woke era, but I will tell you that I hate using the word woke because I'm from that. Just call it social media era.

There you go. Like 2012 to 2022. Call it the social media era. Let's do that because I'm from here and Erica Baddu is from here. And Erica Badu created the word that has now been bastardized. So the social media era And I saw all these companies Performatively pretending to care about this or that

To try to bump their economic Ledger It's not beyond the pale to me to imagine That companies now would do the same thing the other way Like just try to look a little more like I mean I think it's the same thing as the SB's Hiring Shane Gillis now After eight years ago he couldn't host SNL

So I'm not saying it's racist Or intentionally promoting eugenics But I think we need to be on the lookout for companies kind of being like, we're not gay either, bro. Like we're, yeah, I think it's out there. I think this is such a good point because I don't know if it's about being on the lookout, but we're almost acting like it's a moral offense if corporations indulge in something taboo that works on, for lack of a better term, at dog whistle level, which is part of advertising. And it has been like that for so long.

I mean, I remember when beer commercials used to be crazy sexist, like insane sexist. I'm remembering there was a Coors Light ad. Do you guys remember this? Where this woman's looking at her pregnancy test and she's talking about it to her man and he's looking at the beer. And apparently this beer to announce it's cold turns blue and she's going, I think it's happening. He goes, I think it is. And they both turned to each other at the same time in unison say, oh my God, it turned blue. And then she's so horrified that she's in the bathroom

and she's crying. And he's still looking at his beer. And he goes, oh, it's blue like your eyes. And she goes, my eyes are green. It was this, ha. That's a great. It's a great ad. But at some level, there's some serious darkness to it, even more. For a large company, that's quite out there. Well, there's darkness because there's an aspect of, if you're an alcoholic, maybe we're conveying to you that you've got to choose the one over the other. You know, like, we've got to get serious here. Is it going to be us or is it going to be this lady and this, you know, your kid?

I mean, we got to make a choice. Doyle Brunson said poker is about putting a man to a decision. And so I think that there is going to be a little bit of, I don't know, I don't even know what to call it. I hate saying dog whistle because that has a very specific meaning with people, but just the idea that it can work on a different level or companies are exploring whatever it is, whatever the vibe shift might be.

I don't know. And here's the thing. Let's say they intentionally did that with the Sydney Sweeney ad. Let's say they did it. And I'm going to be talking about this with your favorite guest, Sarah Heppala later. And I can't wait to get into it for today's podcast. Nice.

It's not a capital offense. I don't know. they were trying to be a little scandalous in that way or have fun with it. It's all advertising. I don't know. I just like the idea that maybe it wasn't so innocent. Maybe that's not that big a deal. I guess that's what I'm saying.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that these companies care about anything. I think they care about how they can fool you into giving them money. And I just, I hope that we, I'm doing keep that same energy. Do you like when people talk internet speak, Ethan? I heard you guys recently talking about that. I love a good headline that indicates somebody has clapped back.

Yeah, I like some internet patchwa. Yeah, some internet patchwa. Luca 2.0 has entered the chat, fam. Oh, my God. That's what's going on. You mentioned Shane Gillis or somebody did there. We've been talking about that too with ESPN. And this goes into the TikTok star they hired article that you wrote as well.

Katie Feeney, yeah. like Shane I love Shane I think he's great we go to see him live I just didn't think it fit it just doesn't like ESPN they're trying to do they don't know what they are they're just yeah because you know what sports funny is right yeah you know there's funny or do I there's funny in my mind sports funny is an athlete telling a joke that's not that funny but we all laugh there you go they think they're funny and that's really the kind of of comedy that they want on ESPN from their host. They don't want Norm McDonald actually being funny. No. They, and they kind of probably don't really want Shane, but they want my daughter's boyfriend, my daughter's 20. Yes. Yes. And he loves Shane Gillis. And that's who they want to tune into that, because my daughter's boyfriend probably doesn't tune into ESPN. Well, I actually know that he does a little. Oh, because of Maccadette. Yeah, he came in town and was a

Like, are you guys like McAfee? Yeah. I mean, I think it's not, they're doing it, even though they're uncomfortable with it. I think it's because they also know they have the image that they had during the social media era, which is the guys like your daughter's boyfriend was probably like, oh, God, are they shoving this Emmy again or whatever, yeah. Oh, my favorite thing is this Katie's, Katie Feeney, not Sweeney, Katie Feeney, hire. I don't know much about her. That's weird. Exactly.

How that works. Yeah, it's weird. It's crazy. 22 years old, social media background, over a million followers on Instagram, blonde and beautiful. And we can say that here. The other people in media get very uncomfortable. It becomes an elephant in the room as to discussing this hire. But what I loved was in Sports Business Journal in describing the hire.

ESPN hires influencer Katie Feeney to boost social media reach, attract younger female. audience. Now, I don't know what we can do with graphics or if it's even worth it, but let me tell you, folks, if you go to the Instagram of this new hire by ESPN, I don't think it's about attracting a young female audience. I don't think that's the core customer they're targeting, but it's funny that they have their cake and eat it too. They do this thing obviously to get young men interested, or that's a component. I'm sorry if some big Katie Feeney fan says she's being discriminated against and it's like how Scarjo is actually a great

actress, right? Maybe that's true and forgive me for my ignorance, but it just feels like this cake and eating it too moment where ESPN Disney is going we're hiring this woman because we want female customers. Then you look on the Instagram with over a million people following it

and you go, is that what's happening here? I don't think that's what this is about. I have an analogy for that. So a couple of weeks ago, we found out about some soccer star, he plays for Barcelona. He's either 17 or 18. They say he's the next one. And he had a birthday party where he hired some dwarfs, little people, as entertainment. And apparently in Spain there is a law against this, an actual law on the books. And so they went and there was a video

of the little people going into work. And they, the media. Oh, the people are not top us rule is the law. Whatever that translates to in Spanish. Okay, so they ask the little people afterward, boy, how exploitive this is terrible. And they're like, no, it was awesome. Like, it was a great time. It was a great job. My analogy is, I feel like Katie Feeney, if you asked her, she would be like, are you dumb? No, I'm not after young women.

It is very clear that my goal in audience engagement is young men. And then somewhere in the middle, the messenger who feels like they can't just say that or she can't, has to lie and say, No, you know what young women love, titties, above all else, and gambling, and gambling. Sydney Sweeney's core customer is young women at the movie theater. Women love Cindy Sweeney. And I tell you, my wife just loves her. Yeah, and as Ethan brought up, it's funny because they're doing this to drive you right to gambling. So everything that she does online, Katie Feeney, will be related to, hey, quickly, why, you love my take on that?

Why don't you go gamble over here? Basically, everything is some sort of simulated whorehouse at some level. And we're like, all right, where does the money go? And who can get it from you? It gets so crazy, too. You talk about the device. Yeah, I don't think the young woman is the core consumer there, especially if you continue to scroll. I think that's just, you know, I don't think that's what's, I don't think that's what's happening there.

And in many ways, it's a compliment. Any more than if she's taking golf shots, because you see those chicks on Twitter. women, sorry. Like, I don't think golfers are watching that for golf swing tips. No, no, I don't. This is an attractive woman, and that also means she can be a great communicator, right? They don't put ugly dudes on the 10 o'clock news. Yeah, that's this other topic, too, where it's almost like an athlete having talent,

but also having these other attributes where I think there's this fear that if you notice that and say it's part of the appeal, then it just completely obviates everything else. K. Adams, for instance, is obviously attractive, and that's a huge component in why a lot of men are interested, but she's a very talented interviewer as well. She's got all the tools going, and now I've got distracted. What was he going to say? Oh, the gambling thing. So it gets crazy, too. We want to talk about ads and getting into the secret compartments of our minds in this really dark way.

The Cavender twins, these twins who played basketball. for you of Miami. We're very familiar, by the way. Yes. One of them just got engaged to the Cowboys' Tide End. Oh, my God. I did not know that. I got into a bad situation with them

because the free press, I did an article in the title. I think they didn't like the title. That's not the here nor there. But the point is this. They were doing a sponsorship with a company called Better, gambling, sports gambling, Jake Paul, I think. and there was this guy who was sort of a mush character named Derek who gave out bad picks and the whole broad comedy

is that Derek sucks at gambling and they would put out social media clips better would of Derek being terrible and then they would start putting out these clips of Derek and the Cavender twins and Derek does a bet and he's so confident and he loses and these attractive blonde Cavender twins are insulting him as they took the other side of the bet

And it was just, I swear, it's getting into this weird brain space of we're habituating you into losing because look, this guy is hanging out with these glamorous hot twins and he's losing. They're mocking him, but he's with them. And if you don't think they're thinking all that kind of thing through, I think you're naive. Yeah. There's a strategy because none of the people involved came up with whatever they were doing there. Somebody else did. God, that's dark. Yeah. It was crazy. It's crazy to see it in person.

But yes, I don't even know where I went with that. Yeah, we get weird about talking about people's looks. That's what I will say. We sometimes are not honest about it. People don't want to come off as creepy. People don't want their own looks analyzed or insulted. So it's a bit of a taboo topic, the type I like to get into in an honest way at House of Strauss. we can get off that although the looks are a part of the Lucas story oh so since still didn't let me read some stuff oh yeah you want to want to steam us up with some if I still have it I apologize if I oh there we go there we go yeah this is a good article guys this is what you don't have anymore I don't want to cause any pain or heart ache out there

among the Dallas fans you see it in the way his Jordan brand Jersey hangs loose and in the new hints of definition on his arms. You see it in the complete absence of fatigue he shows when going from heavy Romanian deadlifts to dumbbell-bredged presses to lateral bounds one right after the other. And you see it in the way he smiles when he admits that he's noticed his sleek silhouette in the mirror. He subtly nods to his reshaped delts during our Zoom interview. And as he splays out his long-limbed physique on the bleachers in the gym, he seems relaxed.

calmly making eye contact his arms look longer today than usual perhaps because he's just so downright skinny a fact which now finally he sheepishly acknowledges just visually I would say my whole body

looks better he says yeah no you've got to say if you see if you use splayed you got to say it was the robot I don't talk about guys like that I don't talk like that. I don't talk about anybody like that. It's actually really creepy.

That's awesome. But since we haven't talked to you since... Oh, I just want to say one thing about the Luke article that you guys pointed out. Yeah. I don't know that you would... That this was a tell for AI, but a journalism technique that really bothers me, especially when it's... I think our former co-host, Bob Stern, would have called this sandbox theory.

Everything he just described in that article is just the normal shit NBA players do every single day during the summer. The ones who aren't even in the league do it. We live in DFW. There's a zillion gym. That's what I mean about. Resistance cords that are lifting. There was nothing unique about that scene at all. Yeah, they're giving him, though, to the Today Show.

And so they can get excited and just they're trying to make him more mainstream now. So that now all these people have to learn about, oh, my gosh, you, you shoot three pointers during the summer. You have a resistance band? I know. Like, oh, my, wow, this guy's really working at heart. biggest loser it's crazy It's not like Walter Payton's Hill or something if you remember that

Yeah there's nothing that interesting Herschel Walker and sit-ups and push-ups They all do the same stuff I don't know I just didn't find it that compelling Sorry Dan go ahead No but I just Since we haven't talked to you since The trade was fresh

Maybe you have a new perspective Maybe you think that I don't know Wasn't that bad Maybe you didn't see Nico's vision at the time and now that he has a number one draft pick you see the vision because that's what Nico Harrison said did you see that at the

at the lottery yes he said hopefully some of the media now is starting to see the vision yeah Nico Harrison calmly looked in my eyes and with a little glint as he smiled and a wink his heavy brown eyes it was as if he wasn't only just staring into my soul but staring into the future of the whole

This is a lick for you. You need to just start writing art. You can do this LLM shit. You just start writing these articles and let people have a game where they choose and see if they can get it right because that was perfect. I couldn't even differentiate if Nico

could see the lottery numbers falling or if he just knew the lottery numbers to my heart. I don't know. Look, he, he, yeah, it's insane. It's so funny that he can effectively paying a target around where the arrow hit.

And it gets people conspiratorial, right? They go, oh, this must have been a handshake deal for the lottery to unfold the way it did. I don't think that's the case. But no, it's insane, but I guess it's the sort of thing you got to do if you're him. You got to make it seem like the good fortune that befell you was part of your vision.

Although, as you guys know, it can't possibly be. Hey, points for audacity is what I would say about what Nico claimed. It just feels like the further we get away from it, the worse it even feels. Not that it's, oh, okay, I can see this or this. Oh, no, yeah. There's a positivity. Because things like this article, things like what, like we're, you know how it's going to be.

We are going to lose the plot on this. We are not going to be in control of even, even our audience. But as a Mabbs fan too. Lakers are fun. I've never seen a team in a conundrum or a fan base in a conundrum on whether to root for their team again. because it's really cool to get the number one overall draft pick. Yeah. But Nico's still there.

And like anything good that happens to this team will benefit him and Patrick Dumont. And I can't root for that to happen. Like I will not pay to go to, I will not pay the Mavs anything. I feel like that's a very small little drop in their big bucket. I'm interested to see what next season looks like. I mean, the flag thing I think will probably. Probably. Had Nico been fired, I think you guys would just be clear of conscience and fine, but then it becomes this tricky thing that can happen where when you think the leadership is bad, you worry about good fortune that is going to keep the leadership around. And I think that's an element of the number one pick. You want the number one pick. But there's a sense that Nico, though, he couldn't determine the lottery can coast off that for a long time. Big time. And that's the unfortunate. adverse effect to that. Because you know as a fan that if this works out well and I want to be excited

watching the Mavericks and Kyrie hoisting a trophy, I know Nico is going to be, he's going to have his hands on it next to him. I just, that's not an image I want to have to feel good about. A couple more things. I haven't seen you write about the NFL in a while. You may have and I missed it. I'm just generally always interested. I used to like to read like Closterman on where the NFL was. Just where are we? Yeah, he's coming out with a new NFL book. Sorry, I didn't want to interrupt, but I'm very excited for that. Damn, I didn't know that. A football book, yeah.

Very cool. But just the future of the, like, you know, we had the injury thing. Like, I remember at one point he had some line of, it might have been in, I don't remember which one. But the idea of, like, you know, 20 years from now at the Super Bowl, they'll announce playing football is guaranteed to give you concussions and kill you. And that will be during the most, like the highest rated Super Bowl of all time. It just runs parallel. Well, they have eliminated racism. That's not on the field anymore.

And curiously, though, intercepted cancer. So now have it. Yeah, they have. The NFL now has it. I'm very excited for what they put in the end zones this year because I know Trump's going to be fired up about it, whatever it is. But, yeah, just your thoughts on where they are. They've got the Pablo and the union stuff. Does that make it feel better when your doctor tells you that you've,

intercepted cancer? That was their slogan, and we always thought it should be like... Right, because I started dancing like Dion or Kenny Gant after an interception. You have three weeks to live. This is terrible. Oh, God. Yeah. Where was I in the NFL?

Yeah, it's funny. We all kind of simultaneously stopped caring about that, and I think it's a reflection of how in the social media era, there were these causes that all of a sudden everybody cares about, and they're so big into and they're so big into and they're so. big on and then they just act like it never happened. And it's just clear that all that's controlling their concern and their emotions is whatever is in the feed, whatever's in the algorithm. And it felt like it happened that way with the NFL. And there were all these articles about how the NFL was on the way down. And there are all these articles about how the NBA was going to overtake it as the sport of the future. Cuban. Yeah, Cuban said that. Was he say, pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered, is what we said, about the dichotomy between those leagues.

And then we all kind of took a beat and we all shrugged and then collectively said, I like football. I want to keep watching football. And they did some stuff, I guess, to mitigate the harms, but they're just not going to do away with it. It's the nature of the sport. I'm amazed by how many injuries there are in training camp. Maybe, because I don't know enough about it, it's just a necessary evil. but whenever I see the Niners

injury report for the day I keep going there's got to be a better way to do this I think you'd have to play your round I'm serious your body cannot take that much time off of contact and get right back into it and move at that I don't think that's a sport that wins itself what other

sport is there where you stop doing the main thing that you do in the sport the entire off season there is a well I was going the other way where is it just going to go the other direction where you effectively just show up completely fresh and green on your first week one. And you've just played the scrubs completely in preseason

and you've done almost nothing. And will that be worth it just to ensure zero injuries? I don't know. I'm sure somebody would say that's stupid. I would say they would start when the game started, right? Like this is just a matter of, and there's no easy answer for it. The concussion thing is interesting. I think honestly Patrick Mahomes happened.

I think it was like, oh, the league was. in this really kind of down place and the concussion movie came out in 2015 and there's just something about him that kids love him the parents love him you know like i've i used to work out at a place over in fort worth where he trains and the moms are bringing their kids up there like there's something about him that every kid loved and it doesn't seem like he's in danger yeah it seems like he's in control yeah he's in control of when things happen so i think that was an interesting one too but yeah you're right it's not like nobody really talks about the thing anymore, other than guys with actual

CTE, which is an interesting. And how can't we trust them? Yeah, minds are scrambling. Yeah. It's catch 22 completely. I love I mean, I love the NFL. I love football. That's sort of the sport I relate to more like a fan

than the NBA because it was my job. And one thing that's interesting to me, so many topics in the NFL are interested in me is just how offenses are doing worse. and you keep hearing about they don't let you play football anymore. And back in the day, it was so hard.

But year after year, offenses are doing worse. And I just find that one interesting, especially in lieu of the NBA debate over how much offense should be allowed and how Adam Silver's League, just very recently, every score was 140 to 139

before they decided to turn off fouls. So that's an interesting topic to me, if I'm rambling. No, no, I mean, this is all I think about. is football. So I think there's a lot of interesting factors taking place there. One of them is kids transferring too much. I think you need to be in a system.

If you look at a lot of the guys that are successful in the NFL, not all of them, but I don't think DAC is a player in the NFL without four years at Mississippi State. And if you're changing systems every couple of years, I think that possibly could be a problem. The flip side of that, though, is that you feel like you're going to get more guys like Russell Wilson, who are just going to go get a graduate degree in quarterbacking and will be more NFL ready. because it seems like people talk about, like, the quarterback problem, right? We're still in the quarterback problem.

I don't think it's that. I think my theory on it is this. This is a crazy theory. I didn't know we were going to get here at all. And we're talking about offensive downturn? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put out my substack. Some people responded.

I still think I'm right miraculously. I'm biased towards myself. Yeah, we got a lot of those in here. I know. I think, and it contains space, athleticism advantages the defense, progress advantages the defense. Because defense is all about shrinking spaces.

And if we all have an equal shot of what we're doing, we're all progressing equally. If your safeties and your cornerbacks start getting bigger, faster, stronger, there's just less space to work with. And I think that it puts more a constraint, on the offense than it does on the defense. And that's why when you leave these sports alone, they just start to get a little more defensive,

a little more defensive. We saw it with the NBA in the early to mid-2000s, where there wasn't a new rule. It was just athletes figuring out how to take advantage of the rules, which then necessitates a change. They have to create new rules to open up more space for the offense. So that's what I think is happening is that without changing anything, defenses just gain on offenses.

They shrink space. I think that's a great point. More accurate than mine. And it's something that I brought up to like Aaron's shots maybe 15 years ago on the radio. Because my plan back then was you just have to change the body types on the field. So you started seeing these hybrid types come in and you're like, what is this guy? Safety, linebacker corner, I don't know. And to me it became clear back then that these teams would play like big dime, which was basically they had two defensive linemen.

and they would have like four DBs and six other guys who you didn't know what they were, whatever. And so you just start changing the body types to match the offense, and it took them way too long to do that. But that's also what happened in the NBA, right? You started thinking like, well, I just need more long guys who can move around and cover more space, thereby shrinking that space.

So you're definitely right. And it also plays into the injury thing too because this might have been Chris Brown's idea back in the day, not the abuser, the football guy. his fix for safety was the field because we're in a cage here and as people get faster and stronger and the cage stays the same size

the kinetic energy behind those collisions is only going one way and so they tried that with special teams because that's where a lot of that was happening but that's what it is is that it's in all these sports we're playing on dimensions from when people worked other jobs

and now you know that's why and that to me is the What's fascinating about sports, Ethan? Yeah, it's natural human experiments. That's what's interesting. I like how you called it a cage too. I like that. Yeah, the cage, you would think that both sides have an opportunity to get just as good.

But in the cage, for whatever reason, in the contained space, the defense gains an edge, even if so much more work goes into offense. And that's just this, I like about the recent athlete podcast, you just get more insight into how they view the game and view each other. And it's so clear when you listen to Edelman's podcast, for instance, that the offensive guys think they're so much smarter than the defensive guys. And that's a running joke within the league. And that's the sort of sense that you almost need to doctor it to play offense, but defense is more a working class man's gig, it would seem. So, yeah, I love all that stuff. I love how the owner out where you are, his standoff with a guy he called Michael.

Paul Parsons. Did he call him that? That was very funny to me. That's a flex. I don't even know. I don't even know his name. Well, he literally said that about his agent. He's like, I don't know his name. I don't talk to agents. No, I love, I love that you love following cowboy drama because I love following 49er drama. It seems very fun. You've got a different dynamic there, but still kind of the same stuff going on. It's awesome. You got a quarterback. Is this guy overpaid? Maybe. probably you know you got just wild wide receivers you got well you got a coach that has kind of some skins but we got he also has a guy who had a tattoo on his skin yeah yeah of these shares with chris sims that has who don't forget rodrick babers people get mad when i leave out rodrick babers oh yeah sorry it's not one of those i thought it was with just chris sims and if they put their hands together it would like each half a bevo form a heart or something. Yeah, I don't know. I got this bias, too, this bias against him that might not be fair, where people will say

that Kyle Shanahan is a genius. And Michael Silver wrote a great book on this generation of coaches and how they date back to Mike Shanahan. And it's just a wonderful book. And it's trying to really convey that genius to you. And whenever I see him in a press conference, this is totally unfair, but I just go, don't believe it. Don't believe it. This sounds like an idiot. It sounds like an idiot. I don't know. Like, what do you want? Some people, Bill Walsh sounded like an intellectual. He sounded like a genius. This guy is just like, yeah, and we're doing stuff, and we're doing that and stuff, and we're doing that and stuff. And, you know, we've got to do that and stuff. And it's just, look, man, I know. And even Bill Belichick, you might not have been saying anything,

but there is an austerity there, a smart, mean vibe, a la Logan Roy, from Succession, Kyle Shanahan to me, I don't know. I just don't, I can't, this really, I might know it, but I don't feel it. Okay, so we're in it with Brian Schottenheimer now, right? So, you know the whole story. I don't know how much, I didn't really know anything about the guy. If I'd never heard him interviewed at length, I just knew he was the guy that was arguing with Pete Carroll and whose fault is it that the Seahawks offense isn't working.

But so he gets introduced. I'd never really heard the guy talk. and within the first press conference something jumped out at me and I have a hard time communicating this but I'm like a therapy guy like I went to rehab and stuff so I'm real familiar with like the language

that that world speaks and there's something going on where these athletes are starting to use or coaches you're using the words and the phrases and the terminology of like cool therapy bros and I tell you the one that jumped out at me the word intentionality

he showed up and he was like we just everything we do and I was like holy shit this is all they were talking like we're going to think through what does it mean well we're going to think about what we do and every press conference he's like well I just love the intentionality the way he took notes and of course

somebody asked him about it what does it mean do things with intention but he says it every press conference and there's something here where those types are kind of like I don't know how to explain it but it's disconcerting because I need you and I need everybody listening to us to be mentally well.

But there's a fair argument that mental wellness is perhaps at cross purposes with the job we need you guys to do on the football field. This is, this is it. Or any job, like any job, like there is a mental health component where you just have to sometimes say, I don't know, I'm bummed out, but I've got to do my job. Like, that's, yeah, it's an interesting dynamic. Yeah, I think that there's also the sense when you hear somebody talk like that, whatever

the merits of whatever they're saying, whatever the merits of that kind of pattern, that there's a little bit of salesmanship to it. That's what it is. And a smarmy, contrived, trying to put on a kind of faux intelligence and guru nature, which might be unfair to Mr. Schottenheimer. I don't know much about him. But I think that might be what you're reacting to. And I'm being a little bit tongue in cheek about how we need these.

oaths to be totally mentally unwell in order for them to do the violence we need. But, yeah, I think it's more, I'm being sold something. This feels like an act. This doesn't feel authentic, whatever, it's intentionality. So we didn't want to keep you all day because you got Sarah Hepha to interview. But if you have a few more minutes. But if you have to roll, tell me you got to roll. I got Sarah at three West Coast.

Oh, okay. Also, I saw him hit the vapor earlier, so I'm going to do the same. Okay. I did not hit the vape. I'm not a vape guy. It was a soda stream, a bottle of water right here. Does it look? Do you make your own soda?

I mean, I just fizz it is what I do. I'm addicted to fizz, but I don't know why. What I will do is not to go all men's health, Luca article. Take that top off, baby. Do we have a sounder? My long sleeve shirt, it's starting to get hot in the bed. Take it off. Take it off.

There we go. Oh, yeah. Guns out. Sun's out. Man, dude, everybody in California is so good. of shape. That feels good. Okay.

What a great-looking little podcast room. Oh, yeah. Do you, what did you turn an extra bedroom into that? What'd you do? No, it's an office, a mile from my house. Oh, I thought this is at home. That's what Brian Curtis does. He went to a little bit of a spot.

Yeah, I wake up at 4.30 a.m. And then bleary-eyed at some point, I drive a mile down the road to the office. This is fascinating for your listeners. I drive I honestly I check for rat shit I check the cars for rat shit oh yeah I heard that story that's the horrible rat infestation in your car yeah yeah you're not going to see that in anybody's Instagram my morning routine right stumbling out drinking coffee and just kind of opening the car door of the two cars out there like and then just you know okay okay I don't see anything cool cool cool cool cool um and then I drive

down here and I try to pump out an article in a couple hours and then I go back when the kids wake up and help out with morning routine. I'd advise that. You want to talk about intentionality, mental wellness. Never thought I was a morning guy. I, to your listeners, think that 4.30 a.m., it could be you. You might think you can't be that guy. I'm proof that you can be that guy. Well, we're going to cowboy training camp next week. And I try to stay on Texas time because I I enjoy my body clock. It bothers everyone around me. It doesn't bother.

I need everything the world to revolve around me. You can stay on it. It's just it makes communication a nightmare. Well, my point was going to be that I might just email Ethan next week and just see if we're both up because I'm going to wake up at 6.30. Hey, I'll tell you something else. I'll tell you who's up. Ethan is Sarah.

I'll get my 4 a.m. text with Sarah. Oh, she does. He's always up doing writing or whatever. So there's one. Yeah. With writers, I don't know what it is. There's probably some science behind it. It just seems as though your brain can only do it effectively in the wee hours if you're

staying up late or in the early morning hours. And that might have to do with the quietude of the world. I don't know. But I had to make a choice where it's, look, I'm not going to live like some sort of degenerate on one side of this with kids and everything else. I got to choose the other side of it. I used to be a stay up to 2 a.m. guy. but I've made the flip.

I haven't written an article with the sun up in like five years. It just rack in my brain. It never happens. But if you have a few more minutes, so I enjoy every time you write about Caitlin Clark and especially just how, like, because I agree, I feel like the WNBA, Nike did, of course, but a WNBA has fumbled this gift that has come to them from the gods. I believe, but I argue with myself on this.

The gods have demonstrated this by reigning dildos on the court. That's how they've demonstrated their scorn. So has that up their plague of frogs? Yes, this is intern Henry's favorite story, I believe. Every day he comes in. Guys, another dildo. Yeah, this morning I was informed that somebody got... I love that somebody listening to this might not know about that story

and wonder what the hell I just said. So somebody got hit by a dildo yesterday. Sophie Cunningham actually got hit. And she was the one who a couple weeks ago tweeted, enough throwing dildo someone's going to get hurt and she quote tweeted it last night I don't know I've

They're being cool about it I don't know that you can get hurt by Well that's what's so interesting For her to have said that And then get hit with the green dildo And then she sort of shrugged it off And it was almost like This is such a strange thing

It was like watching somebody Who was afraid of an outcome Have it happen And then go through If we're talking about therapy speak And intentionality Like go Okay okay

What doesn't kill me makes me stronger, but it was getting hit by a green gildo. It's setbacks, man. But I just thought of something why you guys were talking about the same size field, you know, with today's players. This might be why I just, I hate, I can't watch the WMBA. It sucks. It's not good. It's, and maybe it's because they're playing on the same size field. And it's the, you know,

we just, watching them do what they do is not impressive. Because If you watch a high school basketball team, you will see more impressive athletic. I also want to offer that I actually sort of disagree with Dan on this. Go ahead. You can be wrong occasionally. Well, no, I just think, you know, I do think that there is a very pure version of basketball that they play. Like, there's part of it that I like. Like, it does look good.

But when I watch a game with her in it? I agree with you, yeah. I mean, she stands out. She's incredible. I love watching a game with her in it. She's great. But if you play with a smaller ball, maybe should you also play with a smaller, something else? Yeah, but they should go the other way.

As they talk about lowering the hoop to nine feet so the players can dunk, but they went the other way, and they put it up until 11, and it was just making a basket, it was like scoring a golden soccer, and that was interesting. I don't at all feel like you're taking this series. Well, I got all kinds of crazy ideas that will never happen. that one's been suggested, the nine-foot thing. Yeah, they're in a weird situation because they resisted this huge bump in interest from

Caitlin Clark's presence. And now, frankly, she's not living up to the hype. She's getting hurt and not playing particularly well when she's healthy. I don't know how long-term that is, but it's almost as though they had a moment to capitalize on all this. Meanwhile, they're trying to negotiate a CBA. and the players are saying pay us what you owe us, but nobody can answer that question.

People will say pay them more, right? I saw, there was a quote. Diana Tarasi said something like the fucking janitor makes more than us. And at first, well, I'd say at first when she said that, my first thought was, yeah, that's a good, but now that there are dildos just raining out of the court and I think about who has to clean that up.

Yeah, hazard pay. I now I mean but that's a digression the point is that nobody knows what to do nobody knows how much they should make and the Caitlin Clark thing might be starting to fizzle on them while they're trying to negotiate big money which puts them

in a difficult spot well and the thing where I argued with myself was that I kind of thought it sucked that there was a Caitlin Clark versus the rest of the NBA and they all kind of hated her and they kind of beat her

and they kind of beat her up. But now I think that's the only reason that I pay any attention to the WNBA is because of those. Yeah. It was organic. Yeah. If everybody just loved her, would I care about it at all? No, it was good organic marketing, especially when Sophie Cunningham took out the player who took out Caitlin Clark in that one game. That was fascinating.

That's one word for it. Yeah, well, I mean, say what you will about the WMBA and its flaws. and I'm not saying that you're wrong about anything and I don't like how people act like it's a moral cause instead of an entertainment league and that you're bad if you say I'm not into this. But the WMBA said, hey, here's our enforcer, here's our goon, here's our Rick Mahorn,

here's our Charles Oakley. It's the most attractive player in the week. I was going to say, and she's hot. That's something the other leagues don't have going. No. So, yeah, that's something they got. Yeah. Hey, speaking of getting some, a projectile thrown at you.

That feels like a personal injury. Yes, you could get injured. It actually feels like an extremely personal injury. Despite the, that's true, especially if it was that in a WNBA game. Anyway, Frankel and Frankel, that's who you would call. If you got injured and it is not your fault and you need some retribution, you need, you got bills, call Frankel and Frankel at either 214 or 817 and then all three. 33333. I thought you were going to add something to that. You just enjoyed the way I said that.

It felt like you were trying to wrap up and we'd done the thing, the Dill thing. But seriously, if you get, if you get hit with a DILTO, call a 214, 817, 33333, or any sort of personal injury, they're going to send insurance companies after you. They're going to be trying to just be all over you. See, now I think you're going too long. The Frankles will be there for you. The phone number again. is 214. That one works if you're more sort of east in the metroplex or 817. That one more west. And then 33333, again, not just for dildos. Frankl and Frankel. Back to Ethan. We'll let you go with the last question. Is that okay? I've got one more. I've got just a last note from my many months of notes. Okay. Do you want me to go last or you?

You go right now. I'll go less. Okay, my note, my one note I wanted to make sure I mentioned of, like I said, my few months of listening to your podcast. You said you were disillusioned by the Chris Rock special. Wait, Chris Rock? The Chris Rock Comedy Special, they had spliced together three different shows. Oh, my God. And I couldn't agree with you more. We're talking about the big one?

I didn't even remember, like, the crazy things. You guys probably have this happen to you, too. where you don't remember saying certain things on podcast. It's every day. All the time. I can't remember this evening what I've said to you. But my first thing, when you told me, the first thing was that he's wrong. He's confusing me with somebody else.

But when you explained, I went, oh, yeah, I did say that. And then there's the other realization, I love that we share that. I never would have known that somebody agreed with me on that take. That's bigger, blacker, the main one, right? No, the newest one. He just had one a few months ago. Okay, the one on Netflix, because I feel like he did that back in the day on the big one. Bigger and Blacker, he's wearing different clothes.

Yeah. Okay, well, and that's what bothered me about this one. I think he went to Australia or something. He went. Well, he, I think, started doing it in 2008. There's a 2008 special he did when I first noticed it, and they start showing him saying, I'll say it in New York, and then I'll say it in wherever the location is,

and it takes me out of the flow. Yeah. They're showing the different places at once. And it's one of these things where, yeah, points for creativity. I guess that's interesting, but I don't want that. I want to be in a time and place when a comedian's doing his thing. I don't want to be multiple places. I'm not creative enough for that.

That had to feel good, clearing that note right there. Yeah, oh, no. And just part of it is just the illusion that he is telling this for the first time. And I think that's part of the genius. of comedy. I don't think I can do it. I'm very bad if I'm doing something again but these guys are so good at it

they can act. That's the good point and it's like we know we know intellectually like we know that they've performed this in a bunch of other rooms but we need to feel we need to almost convince ourselves of this noble lie in that moment that this is the first time they're doing this. I mean hell

you're able to do that even if you've seen the material right. Don't cut to Australia. and I can still feel like it's the first time and the only time. Yeah. I never thought about that. No, it's but it's crazy. So I want to say, great point, Ethan, because because it's one that I think is well.

Yeah, and we'll let you go. This is how we end all of our, you know, big name guest interviews. We're talking comedy. It's a straightforward one. Ernest or Peewee? You know, I got a, this is my favorite book here. Don't prejudice. The importance of being earnest. Yeah, but I don't think.

Ethan Strauss is not afraid to buck against if he thinks this is Jake's favorite. He will give his honest opinion. No, the earnest would be the one I'd choose over peewee. I didn't grow up watching peeve. All right, we got to go. That means you've picked the wrong one. Do you remember when you went to Africa? Like, good Lord, what do they find next?

When you're a kid, slapstick comedy is just, oh, it's so good. But I almost want to revisit it because you love things when you were a kid and you don't. No, we do it a lot. We do it a lot, and it usually goes one way. But people say that about Adam Sandler, and that's interesting to look at in lieu of the happy Gilmore 2 coming out. It was this funny because I was a kid, or is it just funny? But yeah, that one's an easy one for me. I didn't even have to think about it.

But what I'm loving right now, what I'm binging are just because of the new Naked Gun movie or all the old clips on YouTube of the old Naked Gun movies. So good. So good. That's my recommendation. Does it hold up? Yeah, I think it probably does. It completely holds up.

And sometimes it's a little anachronistic, but then it's a good time capsule of what people were talking about and thinking about back then. The only thing that doesn't hold up about it, the glaring distraction, the throwing Chris Rock's routine to Australia, if you will, is O.J. Simpson as a coach star. I was going to say, do you take a knee or like turn away from the TV or anything? Or maybe you have your kid fast forward through those parts? like Trump did with Bloodsport and Eric. Oh, that, that's a reference that was a New York article about him watching Bloodsport.

And it's also one of the things everyone was like, look what an animal this guy is. I'm like, that's the coolest shit I've ever had in my life. Like my son just can just fast forward to the cool parts. Yeah, I mean, that was, that's a deep cut right there. You know, I just take it as all part of the complexity of humanity, folks, is what I take it as that. because Nielsen was asked about OJ and he was honest he said look I had no idea he was

perfectly just great to deal with he was wonderful my head's still on yeah my head is still attached to my to my body and so he did he did his job as an actor and I think that's just something that's true about people that were often uncomfortable with

this is a crazy thing to end on and I apologize but I do think this is something I like to buck against that when somebody does something horrible, there's this reflexive idea to try to make the things people liked some sort of put on a ruse when I think the reality is that they're just different people in different contexts. And that's what a lot of life is like. And I could detour us into that and that might not be great. I don't know. But that's something I'm fascinated by how we try to make somebody

of they're bad or they're good. And it's just actually they're good and bad depending on the context. And there are people in a work setting that are great coworkers and wonderful contributors who have just some sort of rage issue that presents itself in private in a way that's monstrous. And that's just how a lot of people are. But I love that bit. Like you said, they go to Leslie Nielsen. They're asking him, oh, he was great. We went to people with the Texans. And they all said Deshaun Watson never asked them to jerk him all. You know, they second. Terry at the, yeah, so. Well, Ethan, tell Sarah we said hi.

House of Strauss.com. It's a must. It's an absolute must. I'll email you next week, real early, just to see if you are actually up. I love to be on. Thanks for having me. Great talk.

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A rookie does not own the company? You said a veteran. Yeah. What are we saying here? Twelve years, vested. Pension. We're talking about a guy here that was in the military? Yes.

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so I'm in the sauna yeah oh yeah it all started with Zone 4 talk Rangers talk they're upset with Jack Peterson they were somehow shifted to

Beau Bichette had six RBI yesterday for Toronto that was a big game yeah I don't boy you you got a I was in there for a regular thing because those guys are probably there at the same time

and I'm pulling out my phone like just now I'm taking notes. And we ended before I had to get out of there. Whoop age talk. Whoop is the thing you use, right? Yeah. It's like an exercise tracker or something. Yeah.

So this guy's an old. They came out with a new thing. He was like 60 or something, but he was like his age is whatever. And in fact, he has a younger wife. As they were all, they all seem to know each other about his wife. But he's happy that because his wife sees how young his age is now, it is motivating her to work out more. Nice.

So they were congratulating this guy on having the whoop age to make his young wife, who might think just being young is good enough for you. She might have. Keep me, yes. But now she's actually out working out now as well. That's fantastic. There's like a word for that in the social sciences of, you know, just, she was being nudged without even knowing it, right?

He didn't have to tell her. Right, that's the way we want to do it. Yeah. Yes, it's like when I bought my wife the mop and bucket for Mother's Day. I didn't, she didn't know what it was about. Oh, I thought that was after she got off the writing lawnmower. Yeah. You're listening to The Dumb Zone.

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taking lots of your money. Oh. And you meant helping you feel good. They will help you feel good. Okay. Yeah. you want to slide right into news or do we have any other things made the executive decision to be okay the relationship between clayton and intern henry yeah funny's one way to put it abusive in other word yeah it's uh i don't know i'm not a it's very interesting though henry i would say i agree with your assessment but i am a what do you think of clayton do you think he's mean to you You? Oh, hold on. A little microphone there. Go on. No, I don't think he is.

Do you enjoy Clayton? I do. Okay, but some of this dynamic was at play the other day. We were at the den. And we have a huge box full of equipment that has to be taken on the road. Clayton is driving because that's how much he cares about this trip to California and making it go right. He wants to make sure the equipment is there. So he's like, I'll drive. So Blake had to bring the remote equipment, and it's, again, it's a very heavy box, right?

What would you say? Just you lug trying and lug it around. It was probably a two-man job. And like you're in great shape. You're young, you're strong, like Stedman. You are, so you took this thing out of Blake's car, and you started to carry it up to the dragon den and you realize quickly somebody's like no no no that thing's fully packed ready to go so you had brought it into my house right to the base of the steps like you had to walk around it

to get out and then somebody told you no uh intern henry don't bring that up here it's full of the equipment it just needs to go in matt's car matt grim was there and so your move was okay I'll leave it right here at the base of the steps and then drive home. Like, you just left. And Clayton was beside himself. He couldn't believe that you were that dumb. I just asked a simple question of, hey, Blake, do you think Henry moved that case from where he, where we told him, hey, we don't need it upstairs? Because it took him about a half hour to get it into the house.

It's so hard to carry and he's awkward, it's big. and then he left it right there and it took like four of us to get it out of there. So you had wanted it just in the garage. All you were asked to do was unload it from Blake's car. And just set it? Do you think we wanted it at the base of the steps?

Probably not. But I thought that was better than, you know. The problem I have with youth today is they don't ask questions of what, like, all right, I've completed this one part of the task. What more do I need to do? They just do the task.

They just do the task, but then they start making their own assumptions about, oh, well. God, this is so established the run. He wants me to come upstairs with this. And, like, in what world, in Blake and I's mind, would we send one person to unload that case? And I guess it comes with experience of having to do tasks like this, and that's probably my fault. I mean, I've been doing this for almost 20 years, so I just, I feel like, the problem I have with Henry, and I said this the other day,

is I know he could be better. The ability is in him. The ability is in him. I see the drive. He just has to learn to get out of his own way sometimes and ask the right question. Actually, I never heard that from a coach. I heard it from like a teacher,

but not like a coach going, you know what? I know you could be a better athlete. Right. No. They're like, what's wrong with your back? Why do you stand that way?

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Dog fighting. Who is it? Running back for the Packers, Cardinals, Giants. I recognize the name. But let's see if I can get you a better. LaShawn. That was a seven-year career. Third round pick out of, he went to Haskell.

Oh, Haskell, Oklahoma. But in any case, he was arrested in Dallas. He was living in Dallas. Yeah, Dallas Three properties in southeast Dallas Search warrants They seize the dogs Eight dogs rescued

Cruely confined and neglected Incredibly Cruel environment Yeah, so this guy was Basically running a dog fighting ring So stuff's still happening Big time I think he actually

In total had like 190 dogs I'm seeing this is his second run in In 2004 he pled guilty to operating a kennel called Crazy Side Kennels. You want to guess what the first letter is? Yeah, it's going to be a K. That's going to be a K. It's not serene dog fighting.

No, no. No, it's Crazy Side Kennels. Five-year career, 955 yards rushing total. Is it, was he five-year career? Oh, I guess some of it was out of the league. But he was an All-American college player in 93. at uh at oklahoma or no northern illinois boy i got the story all wrong muskies he was from hascal oklahoma he lives here he was in the NFL for seven eight years he was an all-american

in 1993 and he had 200 dogs he was fighting faces up to five years in prison in a fine of 250 000 on each count and i believe that is six counts nearly two thousand yards that all-american season six in the heisman voting dog fighting though very much still going on are they making big money somehow like what's your motivation for doing it i don't know that it's big money but i think it's money you know i think you probably have to have a little bit of money to get into it right have a capital up front and then you just what if you charge you do bets and then i think you also just sell the dogs right how 20 years ago breed fighting dogs 20 years ago like pot was taboo what if somehow there is a wind change

in society now? What if like dog fighting becomes in 20 years, not taboo, and we're doing live spots and stuff for it? And Katie Feeney's trying to get you to bet the over on this dog or that dog? I mean, it doesn't feel out of the realm of possibility at all.

Because wouldn't it be fun to have a toy poodle division? I don't know. You have to crossbreed them with some mean dog. That's a thing, is I need them to just not stand there. Whatever you're telling me, you can go to a dog fight. I'm not saying, ooh, do they have toy poodles? Well, that was kind of... Don't you like when they had the ladies

box? Yeah. Or a fight. I mean, I shouldn't... Yeah, but I'm like... I don't really want to have sex with the poodle. I'm like horned up by the ladies, man. And he's saying the poodle fight, get you a little... Well, yeah, back up. Do you want to have sex with the poodle? You paint yourself in there. Yeah, maybe you guys have uncovered some deep

thing. More than 40,000 people, according to the FBI, participate in enterprises that breed and train dogs according to the study so it's a nationwide thing and you know there used to be the deal where listen i hadn't like had reason to be in a really bad part of dallas in a long time so i don't know but i'm pretty sure it's probably still this way like there are areas where there are just there are dogs everywhere like wild street dogs everywhere and they're a real problem

so you know what are you saying should we fight them let them fight well I guess I'm just saying that over in like they say all three these houses were in southeast Dallas there's probably no distinguishing if you're just over there of like is this a dogfight or these dogs are fighting it doesn't appear that it's just a

it's a it's a different thing or not whether it makes it illegal yeah I want you guys to tell me. A moment of silence for Lashon McCoy or whoever. No, Lashon McCoy is on the Kempthin list though. Lashon McCoy is? Yeah, whenever he got traded to Buffalo,

he tried to announce or organize an outing where he needed some hot ladies. He might even have been not in Buffalo at the time, but like playing for Buffalo, but in another city. and they posted a flyer on his Instagram that was just like, ladies wanted for party, reply here, no phones allowed. Like basically saying you will sign an NDA meet at this building. But he did it on his account publicly?

Yeah. It was very clearly just like, bring on the bitches. I think Hard Knocks, if it didn't start last night, it starts tonight. Oh, okay. I got South Park and Hard Knocks on the docket, but here's the problem. I'm watching too much damn baseball. Yeah, I might have time to get that tonight

because I was informed as I'm walking out the door or as she was walking out the door tonight is Book Club. Oh, her book club seems to be like the WNBA playoffs. Like it's every other week now. It's great. Right, they have one per genre. Can I give you a new twist on an old classic? So we're leaving for California on Friday,

and like many of you that I'm talking to, men with young children, you know that any thing that you do that is not for your wife and kids, you will be made to feel guilty about. So if you have to leave for work rather than somebody being like, actually I find it incredible that your tiny little operation

was able to weasel its way into a week at Cowboys Camp, looks like things are going well. So I like seeing whenever you're happy. I don't really have any notes. Let's not get crazy. So in lieu of that, typically what you get is guilt and like, God, it's going to suck to be here without you. The kids are going to

be here. I didn't do myself any favor. it's the first week of school. But when she told me last night that at the baseball game, my mom offered to take the kids to the beach Friday to Tuesday. So I'm going to be gone, but now this is better than if I were there and they were gone. Yeah. She's going to be out, you know, who God knows what, I hope having the time of her life. And what she's not going to be doing is thinking about me abandoning my family.

And, oh, is that because her family helped bailed her out? Oh, it's your mom? It must have been yours last time. Oh, interesting. It's your mom that's helping out. Her side piece is going to have the weekend of a life time. Dude, knock it out.

Knock it out. Definitely. Okay? State Fair of Texas has announced the finalist for the 2025 Big Tech's Choice Awards, a segment I'm sure Dan loves every year. What's your history with the fair? You took the kids and that was it, right?

You're not a fair guy. Yeah, I don't like it myself. But yeah, it's a good date place. It is good for the kids, for sure. And then you definitely leave feeling like established the run guy and you can't believe how much you spent. Yeah. Well, I'm here basically to announce to the people at the state fair

that if they need someone next year, I would like to Oh, Clayton's going to claim it And that's fine I think we need someone I'd like to now I think I have them in studio Yeah I think I have the power now

Like I think I'm hungry enough Like when you're in you know And you're tossing down suds all the time You didn't used to be sweets guy Right So I think I They've got savory Sweet

I think I can be in on all these How about some brisket and brew stuffed pretzels That feels like What's Brew? I thought Brewers' beer. I mean, they probably just have, like... Are you allowed to have beer battered something? Yeah, I have, yeah.

That is a good question. And vodka sauce, I've had that. Now, I tell my wife, I'm like, you try to pop me with a UA in the next day. You're going to know. What's a UA? You're an analysis. Okay.

And I've told her, you know, anybody. I'll do it whenever. You could pass one of those for us right now? Yes. So they have a thing to analyze alcohol? I thought they just had drug test. No, and alcohol is a drug. You could tell if, oh, I didn't know that.

72 hours. Really? Make Dan take a broccoli test. Oh, my God. Why are you guys against broccoli? Especially you, dude. I eat broccoli every morning. Oh, the smell?

I brought some broccoli up here the other day, and I walked out to microwave it out there, and everyone was like, oh, thanks. Yeah, that would have been gross. And he was kind of like... I know. I think it's... Every day. So the guy who once had a rat scurry out from under a pizza box in his bedroom

is telling me the smell of broccoli is too annoying to him? Just wanted to make sure I'm getting this right. It was in 2010. Anything for my character in the last 15 years you want to bring up? So, yeah, just holler at me. I'd, uh, wait about what? I'd like to judge this. These are, these are foods that, like, oh, cookie chaos milkshake, coconut quadruple.

I'm going to go out to the fair and go ham this year. You remember when Keller ISD was in the news a couple weeks ago, Dan? They were trying to split their districts, sever their pories. Yeah, and then it actually didn't work. Kind of blew up in their face. Kind of surprised, because usually the way those things work is there's a big meeting, and then they just do what they want to do anyway. well representative democracy they listen to the people um basically they got they got caught in the middle of a plan

it went so poorly that they added uh i believe some something to the texas state like constitution on what it would take to sever your school district but they uh saw that negative PR and they were like well what's next the city of keller will enter a partnership with u.s. Immigrations and Custom Enforcement after a vote last night. Voting in favor of authorizing the city's entry into ISIS 287G program. This program is the Warrant Services Officer Model Program, which means, you know, we're going to let your cops act like ICE agents. Hmm.

Yeah. Like towards the students? I said Keller ISD, and I was wrong. Oh, just the city? Yeah. Oh, okay. there's a comment from someone from the school district here because you know they're pretty easy to find there you know but it just feels it feels wild but I guess it's also the law right I mean I'm not going to be like a technical strict interpretation guy here but it's illegal to be here illegally so if If I'm a conservative, I don't say conservative, but you're trying to talk about the police and you're like, well, they're doing something illegal, why can't they go stop doing that illegal thing?

Now, obviously, that's not what they do. It's not like the police go looking for financial crimes and they have limitations to what they do. But at the end of the day, it's like, hey, we want our cops to go deal with things that are illegal. I think this is a very problematic way to do it from a humanity standpoint. but the council members in Keller noted that this is a step towards government efficiency which of course is always of the utmost importance

definitely yeah this is unfortunately another political type story here but I find it fascinating the Fort Worth City Council is considering whether or not it will cut its DEI programs Doing so would result in $300 million in federal funding vanishing.

Yeah, I'd probably keep the money. It's 40 annually in like 270 of grant money. And I'm sure some of this is... How is federal money still doing that? I thought that's part of the thing that's going to get cut. I think it's looming. the decision. So you only get the money if you agree to keep being cool with this?

Yeah. But now they'll... So eventually they'll just say, hey, look, you're still going to get the money, but you don't kind of do these DEI things. I wouldn't say that. I think that probably their goal is to not give you money so they can cut taxes.

Give up its DEI program or keep $300 million in federal funding or maintain DEI programs and lose that $300 million. Is that what I said? No. I said it wrong. Yeah, no, you said it right. Oh, then I misunderstood.

Yeah. I think. It's about a $3 million budget annually. It's just a, you know, you heard about this with the floods, and I don't know how much of that was true, you know. But they had seemingly minutes meetings where people are like, we got this Biden money and we don't want to take it because it's dirty money. Hmm.

Um. I got school news Because my wife works for a school district I don't even know if the kids are there yet I don't think they are Okay so she's been in there all week though It's great My mornings are back

Toss in a book club and Oh my God What a 24 hour period here She informs me Because they had a big meeting about Hey things that are going to be different this year All electronics She said this is a statewide

thing. Yeah, we talked about it briefly, but that was in the big, everything that passed in Texas last session. All electronics will be confiscated. I got an email from D-I-S-D, which felt unnecessary since I have a first grader, but, you know. It just feels like this is going to cause so much more headache and work for just the, she works in the front office, and I'm sure those are the people that are going to have to keep track of the phones, and I'm going to hear all about this, I definitely think it's going to be a headache, and it would be great if the school was like, hey, we're creating a headache for these employees that was not figured into their compensation previously, and we're going to pay them more for this headache.

Okay, well, that's not happening. So that's not happening. But in lieu of that, if it's what they need to do to get the kids, like, back on the time, you're just going to have to deal with that. I wish it was when my kids were there. Dude, it is so wild. And I also wish my kids had school uniforms. I love school uniforms.

Yeah, we start next Monday for the two and a half, almost three-year-old. He has to wear a uniform every day. and I love it. It's great because there's no question. There's no concern. There's no, but I don't want to wear that. Well, no, that's what everybody's wearing. Let's do it.

Question, though, how will people that go to your school know that you like corn? Or in your case that your aunt mistakenly thinks you love Marvin the Martian buying you. I was well into adulthood for that episode, but yeah. There's your news. Oh, that's the news already? Hold on another thing. Long as hell, bro. that's what she said

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The Dumb Zone presents Today in History So today is Wednesday, August 6th This is the show number 409 If you're keeping track on how many shows we've done 409

Stead the test of time Formula 409 Yeah I didn't really What is that? The cleaning solution, but I didn't know the story behind it. I mean, it's pretty simple, but they had to try it 409 times. Oh, really? That was the scientist finally landed upon it?

Yeah. It's like experiment 626. God bless, man. I didn't, I missed the Lilo and Stitch wave when I was a kid. Were your daughters into it? I know we talked about this briefly. Yes, that rings a bell. Okay, because it's out there.

And it's every day, all day now. aliens then alien shows all right so let me tell you something else why you're looking for that I don't know what you got going on there those those despicable me and minions movies are better than any of the other animated movies they're very good

ever loves the minions shit got ferrell on the track the whole score you figure out what you're doing I'll stop yeah yeah I got a couple of viewer mail birthdays as we do We have Grand Puba of the Pink Pavilion.

It's a great one. They're all great, but that one is too. 38th birthday shout out to my DZ, IJB, Ride or Die, and previous den guest, Patot. Didn't Patot send an email yesterday? Yes. To his best buddy, Ryan, and now his best buddy Ryan sends one to him. What if your best friend had their birthday the day after you?

That'd be so cool. Wouldn't it be so great? You and Scott. I would get at like 1159, we would enter the Chinese D-Trap together and try to separate at midnight. So on both sides of it were together. Nice. He is the founder and the sole member of the Dumb Zone Southeast Asian fan club. Oh, I don't know about that.

Thailand branch where you might have us. Hopefully woken up in that special way by his wife. His leaders include edible bowl game mascot. Cody Campbell spending all his money on Texas Tech Athletics. You would do the same. And listening to obscure female violinists play Xbox songs of our college dorm days. P.S. Tell Blake, my wife may be able to keep our favorite show broadcasting to the masses, but struggles with keeping the grass alive when I travel.

Dream Team lawyer, husband of Liz, Ryan. Oh. Let's link up. I miss Liz. You miss Ryan? We went to dinner. He's a great dude. He's a cool dude, but, I mean, come on.

He's not her. Yeah. Very few people. And dear Brackett, Daniel, I'd like to wish myself a happy 40th birthday. Just missing out on the elite August 5th birthday club of Jake and Blake's unnamed newborn child. Which has now been named, right? What is it? I forgot it.

Benson. No, not Benson Boone. Ben's one of those things that I've got. It's the most, yeah, don't take it. It's straightforward. Benson, Adrian. Benny. Not only am I celebrating this milestone on a business Wednesday,

but I am also getting married on Friday. Do you have any tips and advice for a stress-free wedding day from Mark? Yeah, it's really, it's tough without knowing the person, right? I have tips and advice for a long marriage. marriage, but not for the stress-free wedding day, because you've got to remember you're dealing with her on that day. Make sure you got enough Bisk.

Yeah. In case Dan decides to hit the Bisk market and trade. Hey, are you going to try to eat all your Bisk? Well, I think all you had was like meat. That's right. We had meat and Bisk, so, no, I don't fault you for trying to wheel and deal with your protein.

If everybody else is getting steak and they have a, yes, I'm going to ask you for your suit. It's extremely logical, but if everybody else is a giant plate of meat and you've offered the non-meat eaters a soup, I'm going to have to have a lot of that soup to get the same amount of calories. But if you watched me walk up to strangers and say, are you going to eat that business? You would think that was funny. Man, it depends. Don't get too drunk.

That's a big one. I was surprisingly able to nail that. If you need your night to last the whole night, see if you can run into Mike Soroy around one. It helped me tremendously. Can't go wrong having a party bus It takes you to Waterberger The party bus at the end of the night is unbeatable You know it's funny

We have our wedding videos We set up I don't think Breivik might have been doing it My buddy's a videographer But he would film like everybody talking about us Yeah Right Like you'd get the groomsman TC

Or here's my other buddy over here And they're like oh that's what I like Here's Jake Here's what I like about Jake And here's Kristen whatever That sounds gay One of my buddies was like Just divorced

And he was already trashed And he's just over there like, all right. Was he doing that? He told him about his very Luke Wilson in old school. I don't even know if he remembers it, but I watched it recently, and it's great. Was he right? Oh, yeah. I mean, he's just gotten divorced.

He's like, there's how it's going to go. My God. My long-term advice would be to stop caring about her and you will stay together longer. Like just what she does, what her things are, like things that bother you. Like, just if you don't care. then who do you think are you

Tom Hanks there's probably guys who do care about their spouses and pull it off but there's also like

Shoheyotani right you're not either of those guys you can't do it the Dow says the happy man is the one

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these weren't all Wednesdays they were all August 6th though in 1903 the left field bleachers collapsed at Philadelphia's Baker Bowl so this is where I guess they played baseball it injured 232 people and killed 12

can you imagine that baseball game 1903 killed 12 well they probably played the next day as well they had to have they were built different could you say again how they died well it says fans moved in the stands to see something happening something outside the ballpark like there was a fight or a fire or something and that caused the structure to give way so they like overloaded the stands which I was seeing the other day they were protesting something where was it like Australia or something

I think it was on CNN's five things did you know there was a protest there was a Palestine thing no like yeah okay they're like on a bridge yes I did see that and they said that organizers were surprised like 10 times as many people

showed up as they thought and these people are all on this bridge and I'm thinking is that a good idea like what if your Palestine protest gets like 100,000 people on this bridge and then the bridge collapses. Like, does that help your message?

It's solidarity. Hard to say. Get a lot of press. Apparently, the bridge did not fall down, though. Or else you would have heard it about it already. This is the day that... You would have forgot about it already. Yeah.

This is the day in 1945 that an atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, Japan. That resulted in 140,000 deaths. right to the number exactly I do always love that yeah so at what point do they decide to decide to say I just round it like the guy counting

on this day in 1986 the Texas Rangers were in a game that involved a league record a major league record three grand slams Rubin

no in 1986 Toby Harrah hit one for the Rangers Baltimore uh hit two of them in one inning wow that's right that's what people were saying on okay so reuben's first year was 86 okay he was good by 87 who rubin's here oh really yeah oh i might have given you this story last year in alabama an apparent our On this day in 1994, an arson fire destroyed Randolph County High School, which was the focus of tensions over the principal's stand against interracial dating.

I remember this. The principal was Huland Humphreys. He was principal until this incident. From 1969 to 1994. During an assembly addressing prom in 1994, he said that he would cancel the prom if students plan to take dates of a different race and then someone set the school on fire

interesting like four or against he was against interracial dating yeah but like was he setting the school on fire to make sure they didn't date or were people mad at his opinion so they burned his school it was uh the school was burned down this isn't as juicy by the son of a

black preacher like a guy in the community who was Okay. So it was a, we're pissed off at your racism. He's going to burn down the school. How about we put you out of a job? Okay. Yeah.

All right. This is the day in 1998. I was never the answer. Did you guys know there was something called The Magic Hour? It was Magic Johnson had a late night talk show. Dude, this has been on my list for so long. Jason had gave him to me. Oh.

You have them too? What's that? The episodes. Oh, no. Yeah, it's amazing. There's not many. Are all of his monologues like his tweets? You know, they are, really.

Like, that's how he talks. Hey, guys, the Olympics are good. Howard was on there, right? I don't know. That's right? I mean, I know that what's it called was pretty popular, the Arsenio show. But the Magic Hour did win me my Deadpool in Dayton, because we had a Deadpool, of course, as many.

wacky radio shows did oh yeah but mine was the creative pick of putting Magic Johnson's TV show on the Deadpool not just a person I like that oh yeah thanks guys I expect nothing else yeah it's fantastic

especially Magic Johnson at the time had to be popular for Deathpools in general just as a person but it wasn't him as a person yeah that's very good it was the show yeah I uh we need to review the time Howard was on because he had Howard on after Howard every morning

was like this is the worst talk show show ever on television and their producers like you know what would really draw the viewers get him yeah yeah okay i'm i'm in we have Howard stern news i saw something on twitter like yeah they're not going to renew his contract yeah serious yeah and i'm seeing people like say oh yeah he went rogue see and i'm thinking well how about he went like 75 he was no 20s he's 75 years old and is he's made a billion right his stuff isn't that doing the same thing

yeah last year Howard Stern said he hated anyone for voted for Donald Trump and demanded they stopped listening to his radio show today it's been announced it's canceled yeah

other birthdays today we have David Robinson 60 that's surprising to me I would be a lot older Budenholzer is 56 once put all five of his starters in the NBA All-Star game, bud.

Kareem Hunt, 30. On the Hawks? Yeah. Wow. I told Kyle Corver. Seneca Wallace, 45. In an elevator. Nobody cares.

Seneca Wallace. Can you do before or after Seneca in the Browns quarterback progression, Dan? Or are you not a real fan? You got to get that down. I should get that down. Charlie Whitehurst is in there. He's 43. He certainly is.

Okay, I'll do that. You want me to make that my bit for training camp? Yeah. I can name every Brown's quarterback. since 1999? Got to know the order. In order. Like the presidents.

Have there been more presidents or Brown's quarterback? That's a good question. Max Kellerman, 52. Dude, he was kind of awesome. I feel like at least compared to what we see today, I don't know why he got pushed to the side. What's he doing now? Surely a podcast, right?

Actor Benito Martinez is 57 Aceveda Pulled an Aceveda God what a gift for bad radio Just the ability to have a funny euphemism for head It was great I think we all enjoyed it Dude I got to be honest

I knew that scene was as it were coming Because I was watching it a couple years after the fact and it was still one of the most shocking things I've ever seen in a TV show. Didn't he hit him with an iron or something? He, like, beat him up and, like, forced him, like, get down. He had a gun. It was rough, man.

So that wasn't the, they once put someone's face on a stove. Yeah, that wasn't him? No, but I do remember that also. Because he's got to get the Acevedo. You don't want him all. M. Knight Shamalan is 55. I like all of his movies Jake, name which one this is

Jerry Hollowell is 53 Ginger I like signs quite a bit Signs is great That's a good movie Soleil Moon Fry is 49 You know what she did? Yeah, slapped God in the face

That's Punky Brewster who got a breast reduction That's correct Hurry up, see if we can catch her before she turns a corner. Okay, and I have two... What do you got? I've been looking up more about the park collapse and the details are great. Go on.

The thing that people were looking at, like you said, that people wanted to see what was going on. Two drunken men walking along 15th Street were being teased by a group of children. One of the men allegedly grabbed the hair of a 13-year-old girl from the group. And then fell on top of her, accounts of the incident, say the cries for help from the girl and her friends do the attention of spectators. I'm looking. I'm going to look.

I'm going to, whoa, what's going on? I'm going to rush over to the other side of the... Yep. I'm sorry to miss your super bad joke. No, you're good. Not to over-reference the Kings of Comedy. I really wish you'd give that year. Maybe you can do that for my birthday this year.

You'd have to watch D.L. Hughley. Yeah. But Bernie Max Big, because I saw a guy at the Rangers game last night afterward in the concourse. He was walking and then walking. walking faster, and then he just started running. And we were laughing because that's the entertainer's bid. It's like,

dude, black people, like a couple of us start running. Everyone's just, I'm going to. I don't know. We'll figure it out later, but it's like, guys took off. I'm like, he must know something. So I have two candidates for our

dumb zone birthday of the day, but we now welcome intern Henry. He has the intern Henry birthday of the day, trying to keep us young and hip. All right, so Denton-born rapper C.J. Dippa is 27. He got famous through America's Got Talent in 2010, and now has albums like Texas Love and Hardest White Boy in the South. And you've heard of him.

Now I have. Oh, that's not working for. Well, I can't know everybody. I mean, but when I see something good, you know, I try to find it, do some research. This is disturbing Looking at this kid And I'm upset I've always considered myself

To be the hardest white boy in the South Knowing that there's contention for the title is upsetting Sorry Dan What are you sorry about You look dissatisfied with the birthday I mean You know They can't all be home runs

Yeah But when he does hit a home run He tells us That's a good dude Hey, here's a, let's see if we can book, see if you can book CJ Dippa. Yeah. That'll be a fun challenge for you. Have Henry book him for the show?

Yeah. Okay. You want to interview CJ Book? Honestly, I think interviewing anybody is interesting to me. If you've been on America's Got Talent, you're making, trying to make this record thing work, you're from, I mean, he looks like Justin Bieber until, like, they decided he wanted his image to be walking around. All right. Book him for your last day. Prometheism.

What's your last day here? Should be the 18th. Is that like the Monday? Coming back from camp, we'll be right into it. Hit him up. Tell him you want to interview him on a podcast you work for. Yeah. This will be your project.

Okay. Before you leave. I'll try. Yeah, this is your final project for school. I love it. You get grade loans. Somebody asked us, because like when I interned, it wasn't formal, but I know that the interns I had with bad radio and with the hang zone, it was formal, and they had

a professor, and they had to fill out. They had to fill stuff out. and I had to correspond with the professor. Is this for class or no? Okay, good. I would write an essay once a month when I was... Yeah, and I mean, a listener, I think, remembered hearing T.C. mentioned that. So he was like, hey, I'd love to know what Henry's telling his...

Is this like one of the best journalism schools in the country? Yeah. And it occurred to me he's probably not telling them anything. Are you going to work at the TV station? Amazoo? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I started to do a little bit there last year.

Big ups. Yeah. You know about this? Julie taught me about this. The local station in Columbia, Missouri is just an extension of the journalism school. So like ABC, what, is it ABC? They end up getting free? It is.

Labor, kind of? NBC. Yeah. But it's right there? That's awesome. Yeah, it's about a 10-minute drive away from campus. And so he's going to deliver the weather when he gets back. Oh, God, I hope not.

It's probably high. I don't know. Yeah. All right. All right. So two possibilities for Dumb's own birthday of the day. We have James McGrievey is 68. Does he her, Kempspin.

The governor? Yeah. Holy shit. That's Golan Sappelle's boy. It is Golan Sappelle. What's that? One of the greatest, and this is a big Gordon one, But yeah, he just loves the name.

The Golan Chappelle was Sappelle. So McGreevy was the governor, what is it, New Jersey. And he was having an affair with a man, Golan Sappelle. And he was like a hot stripper, guy looked like, you know, he's doing poppers and Molly. And McGreevy had to go apologize. And it's, I don't have the image ready, but it's the funniest, like, curb meme before the curb meme happened because his wife is there. And she's going to stand by him. But she just looks like she has never hated anyone as much as her apparently gay husband who's trotting her out here.

And the details were super steamy, you know. It was great. I made some mistakes that I'm going to try to heal from. He's a five-year veteran of the IDF, Golan Seppel. Yeah, he was a military. He's in the Israeli military. He's all jacked. Well, do you remember that documentary of the staircase, Dan?

Oh, yeah. Behind that, right? Oh, yeah. That was such a fun. There was so many fun aspects of this murder documentary, but one was the guy just being like, yeah, like jerking off to guys in uniform. I don't know why that's weird.

They're out there. But our dumbs-on birthday of the day will be Asia Carrera, 52, former porn star. And very interesting. She has appeared in more than 350 adult films. Became the first ever Asian. performer to win the AVN female performer of the year? What's that adult video, something?

Adult video news. Why did I know that so fast? And said it like it was a stinger. Welcome back. To adult video news. Mike Sartain is always trying to get IJB out there for the Avian Awards. You want to do it? Got married, Dan.

Some real nice passes. Huh? Is that too, like, FM whack? Because we could definitely do the show there. I'm kind of grossed out by it. Like, the Adult Video News Awards. We have Vegas, Mike. Oh, could have us do the...

It's a little bit too much, I think. Yeah, I mean, I like porn more from, you know, a little length away. I'm sure you're headed somewhere here. Oh, my goodness. So it says here she was married to Don Lemon. That can't be that Don Lemon, right? He hasn't always been, like... That has to be a different Don.

Okay, it's a different Don. It has to be, yeah, you're right. Damn it. Because it's two M's. Multiple Don Lemon. It does say that She is in Mensa She has a very, very high IQ

Documentary has Showed about that And then we talked about this, I think, before in the past She is an atheist In November 2014 She wore a colander on her head For her Utah driver's license photograph Ah, yes

State law prohibits the wearing of hats and driver's license photos, but there's an exception for religious headwear. And she said it's an honor of the religion of the flying spaghetti monster. Heck yeah. And to reference the Keller situation again, when the Keller ISD was holding public comment,

that's when I became aware of the flying spaghetti monster, because there was a guy there wearing a colander on his head and like some big robe. And I'm like, what the hell is this? And people are like, oh, that's the flying spaghetti monster. It's a made up religion. He's poking fun.

I didn't know she started. Pastafarian? She's a pastafarian. There you go. To one of the greatest jobs on The Bachelorette that I've ever seen, Dan, was the pastapreneur. That's good. And they were like, what do you do? And he was like, I just look into different types of pasta.

Yeah. A lot of money in that. So, not Tia Carrera, Asia Carreira. Good for her. Yeah, there's a lot going on. with her. But anyway. She's in the Big Lobowski.

Congrats for being the dumb zone birthday of the day. Born on this day now dead. Marv Marinovich. That's a dad? Todd Marinovich's dad. Yes. And John Bonnet Ramsey.

Whoa. Dead on this day still dead. You got Rick James. And former NBA player Dan Roundfield. Wow. Atlanta Hawks. Who drowned while trying to save his wife. I wonder if she was saved.

Oh, no. Look up Dan Roundfield. That the lesson we've all learned, if your wife is drowning, don't go to try to save her. She made it. Oh, unless you wanted her to live. Yeah, which is why they use the word heroically.

in this article, which is funny, because, like, he was kind of doing the same thing. Whether it worked or not, it was heroic, right? What do you mean doing the same thing? He was trying to save her. Results matter. So he did save her. He, she made it back. So they're like, he drowned heroically trying to save his wife.

If he just drowned, they don't put hero in there. No, he's just an idiot. I'm dead. And that was today in history. man we got jared tomorrow we got cowboys friday fun we got jared tomorrow we have uh we might talk to somebody who was with luka new york

can i guess who you already know tomorrow yeah i haven't given you a time yet okay let's party adios mofo we got to go before this becomes a zoo thank you for watching my video subscribe and type for my name if you want to watch more my video. It started Monday.

Jake Kemp would cry. He's a little fucking baby, but he doesn't know why. Chapy wasn't there to cut the cord because he's a guy. The baby's fine as long as he's not blind. All I know is Jacob would grow up in Tarrant County and teach his brother to be tough, tripping and falling all over his own feet while he was showing. own feet while he was showing off his de-elaminated with his school ID. And so you guess, and Ken would create points for sex.

He's getting a four-pointer daily from his ex. While he has no idea what's about to happen next, as he gets his masters to set himself up for success. He had dreams and admiration of some day being on a broadcast station at a place that was a self-creation by the Great Wolf. Things were better back then. He produced so hard. He got a host job, he replaced Bob

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all because they negotiated for something more. We were tired. It got so hard, hard, his dreams got scarred because his boss would always pull the ego card. He realized he'd never get too far as he would eat fast food on a tray in his card. But Jake and Dan always had a plan with the best. a plan with the backup plan they would do more than a midday rant their own show with dedicated fans he produced so hard and raced it all he got a host job he replaced bob through a piece of

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