The Dumb Zone FREE - Episode 106: NFL Championship Weekend Madness, Vince McMahon's Wild Ride, Luka's Brilliance

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

Dan McDowell and Blake Jones kick things off by explaining how you can enjoy their podcast, which, by the way, is free every Monday and Thursday. But wait, there’s a twist! If you’re feeling particularly fancy, you can unlock Tuesday and Friday episodes behind a paywall at patreon.com/thedumbzone. That’s right, folks, for the price of a mediocre latte, you can double your dumbness.The crew dives into some heavy-hitting topics, starting with the riveting world of horse racing. Did you know they shoot horses with broken ankles right on the track? Yeah, it’s like a spaghetti western out there. But don’t worry, we don’t just dwell on the macabre. The gang discusses everything from the decline of horse racing to UFC’s brutal early days, and somehow, Johnny Manziel sneaks into the conversation.But that’s not all. The guys recap an eventful NFL Championship weekend, breaking down the highlights, the lowlights, and everything in between. If you missed the games, don’t worry – they’ve got you covered with their own unique spin on all the action.Then, Jake Kemp shares a harrowing tale of a family hotel disaster in Fort Worth, leading to an unexpected deep dive into the wild, rule-free days of early MMA. Imagine a 350-pound guy fighting a 150-pound guy. Sounds fair, right? Spoiler: it’s not.In the latter half, things get personal and hilarious. Dan recalls a trip to the Fort Worth Children’s Museum, which, believe it or not, includes a 9/11 memorial right next to dinosaur exhibits. Nothing says family fun like a bit of historical trauma. And speaking of odd juxtapositions, Dan ponders if he could moonlight as a babysitter. The verdict? Probably not.Jake wraps up with a story about flag football officiating that makes the NFL look like a well-oiled machine. Plus, there’s talk of comedian Stavros Halkias, Cowboys roasts in Dallas, and the utterly surreal experience of seeing a comedian try new material with notes on stage.Oh, and they finally get to the bottom of this whole Vince McMahon thing. Yeah, it’s as bizarre as you’d expect. And don’t miss their thoughts on Luka Doncic, because what’s a sports podcast without a little NBA chatter?0:00 - Open33:30 - Luka57:00 - NFL weekend1:46:45 - News2:00:30 - Viewer Mail/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Welcome to the current model of our podcast, which is totally free every Monday and Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts, including right here. It would be a great bit if you subscribe or follow. We do a minimum of four total episodes each week, and two of them can be heard behind a paywall at patreon.com slash the dumb zone. So Monday and Thursday, free everywhere. Tuesday and Friday, we'll be behind a paywall at patreon.com slash the dumb zone. Now, here's today's program. Didn't they once have to like shoot a horse right on the track? Oh yeah, the horse broke his ankle or something and they had to put him down. and they had to put him down. You know, again, I don't know anything about horse racing,

but it seems to me like that's pretty f***ing harsh. Like, dude, you can't, I mean, in this day and age, we can't fix a horse's ankle. Marlboro Death Day. How's my prediction doing? Terribly. Reset. I think about seven years ago I said horse racing has 20 years left. Yeah, it's just not mainstream enough.

For people to get mad about it? Yeah, if it was more popular. Like Indians? I mean, like the Cleveland Indians becoming a good team, and then now it's mainstream enough for people to start talking about it. The Redskins didn't even have to get good. That's true. So that's what I'm saying.

The NFL, though. It's the NFL. The UFC. Once UFC started to get a little more popular, they had to stop. It used to be really brutal. I don't know if I've ever told you this story, but a good friend of mine, my cousin, who listens to this podcast. All right. What's up, bruv?

He was actually a manager at the hotel that blew up in Fort Worth a couple weeks ago. Okay. I heard you mention him. And I say was because I don't know if that place is coming back or not. Oh, not because he blew up? He did not blow up, no. And he also did not blow up the hotel.

His dad, my uncle, great dude, in like the late, probably late 90s, was the guy you would go to for like bootleg MMA tapes. Okay. They used to let people fight, like they had no weight classes.

They would just have like a 350 pound guy fight like a 150 pound guy. See, that sounds awesome. There were like no rules, you know. There were, like, no rules. You know, it was basically not really a referee. I think that's when John McCain got involved, actually. Insane for John McCain. Yeah. So it got big enough.

And its popularity got onto his radar. Yeah. Yeah. I have you for horse racing is done between 2030 and 2035. That's kind of what I said. Yeah, you're still on. But you're right, though. It's probably not big enough for people to get mad about it.

It just seems weird to me in a world where, you know, I don't know. It feels like PETA is around every corner that we're still like, let's just whip the shit out of these animals and have them run fast. It seems weird, but I don't really care either. Right. Will it be horse racing or Manziel on the PGA Tour?

Or Dan becoming a helicopter pilot? I would. Or Dan becoming a helicopter pilot. I would actually say Dan becoming a helicopter pilot, horse racing Manziel in order of things that could occur. Not a lot of belief in Johnny Manziel. No. Not a lot of belief on him becoming a pro golfer. All right. Dan, helicopter pilot, horse racing, Manziel, PGA Tour, Manziel face tattoo.

Oh. Let me take the bottom one and move it to the top. Oh, to the top. Yeah. That's even over. Okay. I don't know. I mean, I've seen the guy smoking cigarettes in succession.

Well, he's old school. The players used to do that at halftime. That's true. That's true. Happy Monday, guys, if you celebrate. I had a big weekend. Oh. Oh.

So on Saturday, I had a twofer. I went to something called the Children's Museum in Fort Worth. And I'm only telling you about this because I think everyone needs to take their small child there. It was super cool. I may have done that. Maybe, I don't know. Do they have the thing where you can dig around for artifacts and the same thing okay yeah yeah we've been there yeah and when i live there you're just looking for

when you got little kids you're just anything looking to kill time it might be just going to the mall my father-in-law was with us so i was like okay you know let's just figure something out and uh i used to live across the street but i I never knew it was there. Because we moved when Nora was like eight months old or something. But it's a really great time kill. And it was actually free because the stock show was going on. And is it the same bit of are you learning along with your four-year-old? A little precipitation talk, huh? I definitely knew that's how oceans work.

No, but it's really cool. They have a bunch of like, you know. How does all the water not just fly off the earth? Dinosaurs are always like a key component to these things. You know, so they've got like bones. They had like a really cool deal where you could like take out a piece of paper that had, you know,

like the, it was basically like a coloring thing of five different dinosaurs. You could color it. You could put it on this thing. You could press scan and it would show up on the screen the way that you drew it.

Like a flat screen, you know, like movie screen, basically. So if you drew it like red and green, you would press scan, and then there would be like a red and green Stegosaurus up there. It's really cool. Is that confusing? Yeah, I'm just not, that doesn't seem that cool. What do you think? Well, it's really more that, like, you could have the kid color something. And then they'll see it up on the. And then you press a button.

You put it down. You press a button. And it shows up on the screen, like, walking. Okay. Oh, okay. It's moving. Oh, yeah. All right.

No, I just thought. Yeah, or like a pterodactyl flying. I've seen a projector before. Yeah. It's not like. That's what I was trying to. No, no, no, for real. Like, you could draw, like, a blue pterodactyl okay put the thing on a computer screen all right press a button and now i'm excited now i'm gonna go there even without kids um but there was a

bunch of there was a bunch of other cool stuff there it was a really it was a really cool place and then what if i just liked kids and i said i wanted to be a babysitter would people hire me as their babysitter probably not dude then you're on your way out to dinner it's like all right dan hey all right i mean you know like yeah i was a good father i kind of liked doing it yeah i wouldn't mind having new kids with a new hot super prepared yeah yeah like you're if you leave your kid with my 16 year old-old daughter, you're like, what if something goes awry? Yeah, I mean.

If something goes awry with me, this guy's got it. He's been through it all. Do NFL teams hire high school kids or former players? Right. This guy's done it all. He's been through. He's seen it. Right.

He's not going to be a, yeah. How come I can't get that? You know, societally, you're probably right. It's a great side job. It's just the whole pedophilia angle. All right. Go ahead. I just got to thinking I would like to go to see that thing at the museum.

It's pretty cool. But it would be weird for me to go there without kids. Maybe I could just. You definitely can't go alone. Have a friend's kid go with me. I'll lend you a kid. But then Saturday night, I went to go see a comedian, Stavros Halkias. He is formerly of Comptown.

And he's like the biggest Ravens fan in the world. You bet you didn't see him after. He puts out videos where he does like a Baltimore accent. Like he's like a fat Greek guy. And he puts out videos where he does like a Baltimore accent called Ronnie Ravens. And the Ravens have actually embraced this. Like they'll post him on their team account. He canceled back in

October. He's doing the show Saturday night. I went with TC. He's wearing a Lamar jersey and he's like, listen, if I wouldn't have canceled in October, I would not be here right now. But then

somebody sent me a photo at about 6 a.m. on Saturday morning. He did a 7 and a 10 and red-eyed back and he was at the game. Nice. Yeah. And the Ravens posted a video of him. He spent about the first 15 minutes. This is the fun thing about Dallas. He spent about the first 15 minutes just making fun of the Cowboys, and nobody was mad. Like, if you do that in, like, Philadelphia, people are like, fuck you. I love this town. In Dallas, everyone's just like, yeah, it sucks.

Jerry sucks. The Cowboys suck. We get it. Yeah. But it was great. it was a great time and it was cool too because you know a lot of times when you go see a comedian who's touring

they're kind of just doing a special that you've already seen with like maybe a 30% mix of new stuff this was like the special's a year old. I'm going to try everything tonight new. Which was a little bit weird because he had like notes.

Like there were times where he would like look at like the barstool and be like I'm going to try to figure out which one of these is like an ender. And I've never seen that before.

Like when I saw Shane, he basically did the Shane YouTube show. So he was just like, all this is entirely new. A lot of it's going to suck and you'll see it in 18 months.

Well, how was it? It was amazing. Because he's great. Yeah, I once saw Pauly Shore in Dayton Just doing a show off of notes The whole show And I thought it was

It didn't seem cool like that Because it wasn't that funny The whole show wasn't notes And it was But it was like I thought it was ultimate disrespect Yeah It kind of like

All these people paid money, I paid money. Maybe I didn't pay money because the radio station. Yeah, because we had him on the show. We used to get comedians on. Comedians, too. Well, he's only 55. Pauly Shore? Yeah I don't know why I thought he would be older He does seem older

I'm surprised he's alive I believe I saw he was going to be in a Richard Simmons biopic Oh yeah I would watch that I think I heard about that Do you know about his mom? I feel like visually that's who he looks like Yeah he's spot on.

No. Mitzi? I think she passed in the last five years. Yeah. Owner of the Comedy Store. World famous comedy venue. I've read a really good book on that. Apparently not that famous.

No? Yeah, I've read a real good book on that. The Days of the Comedy Store. That's... I'm fascinated by stand-up. I wonder if... Yeah, I read a real good book on that, The Days of the Comedy Store. I'm fascinated by stand-up. I wonder if... It's literally the only thing I consume. Yeah, I watched a bit this weekend.

I saw the Jacqueline lady that you told me about. Yeah. Cool. And I watched the newest Chappelle. I like that one, too. Which is a couple weeks old, but it was pretty good. It's just way easier for me to consume than... I'm having a hard time getting through Fargo.

I don't dislike it. But I watch an episode and then I watch another one a week and a half later. Stand-up's good because I can stop after 15 or 20 minutes if you feel like it. You know about our rule. What's that? I think I've extended it to 10, but my wife has. Previously,

it was the five-minute rule. If you're not grabbed by five minutes? If you can't laugh in five minutes, then go. I just mean, I like the Jacqueline lady.

I can't remember her name. Jacqueline Novak. It's really long. It is so long. It's an hour and 30 minutes. It's very intense. So I can only take like about 20 minutes at a time. I need a break.

I get that. But our deal is like your best stuff is going to be at the beginning and the end. And so if you cannot get people to laugh like in the first 10 minutes, you're probably not going to be interested in minute 48. I'd like to try it again. Try stand-up? So would I. And the only reason I don't is that everyone would make fun of me.

Because it would suck. Yeah. No, I think it would, but I've been keeping stand-up notes for a couple years. Same. I use most of it here. That's why this show is so electric. Yeah. No, obviously we use a lot.

And some stuff we say here, I'll jot down, like, oh, that might be a good bit. But stand-up seems so difficult to me. Just the whole being able to do it again as if you just are doing it for the first time. Yeah, and I mean, if you just want to do it recreationally, you wouldn't really have to do that. But it seems to be good you have to really do it a lot. For sure. Speaking of Akash, as it were were before the show like he's been on me about it for years and i'm sure he has been with you i know he's he was trying to get donovan

to do it no i don't think he thinks i'm funny he's he's never said hey you should do it but i i like now i actually do probably have more time that i could do it. I don't know. One of my writing gigs was heavily stand-up focused. I would just go to basically open mic nights. This is how I met Paul Varghese. You met him before, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. So I would just go to like, I think it was like a club attached to a hotel,

and I would go there every week for like four months. I did talk to Akash the other day. He said we should be doing like a, as the future unfolds, we should do a show at a comedy club every month. Like once a month. Feature Blake? Just do a night.

No, do the podcast. He said that's a good bit yeah I but would anybody go no that's the thing no I've always thought

that we should do a segment of cause the when I got in close with hyenas downtown because they got us a couple people on the show you know he was always

sending me names of people you know that were coming through town that I hadn't heard of, but part of Dan's thing is just like, have them a part of the show. And if they're funny, then we establish a relationship. And if they're not, then we just let them go. And we could just have this comedian be a part of our show every once in a while.

So even if we don't really know who they are? Yeah. Let's just say. Yeah, that's probably like... And maybe that uh fits into one of the themes on today's show is i look at our run sheet it's monday do you want me to read you real quick that the a brief uh anecdote from my stand-up notes sure but let me just say that so it's monday we and we're going to be talking about like one of the things on my run sheet is

we're going to do a live spot about live spots yes we are we're going to do our first live spot today but it's going to be about live spots because we're allowed to take advertising now whoo and maybe that's like a future advertising or trade deal or something you know with a comedy club maybe it's a a whole all-encompassing you know we'll we'll have your guy on every week even if we don't know who they are because a lot of i would get texts and emails from every one of my comedy contacts and unless they were well known i didn't want them on our show yeah but like blake says now also just hang out. Okay. Maybe now's the time for Bruce Bruce. Now's the time for, yeah.

Okay, sorry. Your comedy notes. Ladies and gentlemen, new segment. I was thinking about this. Jake's phone. Because I'm not really allowed to do anything. That's not the joke. Oh.

Sorry, I thought we were. What. Sorry, I thought we were... What a jerk. I thought we were the crowd. What a jerk. Just didn't know when the punchline was. Never mind. Oh, come on. You can't let this guy beat you down.

Like, I don't know. Dan doesn't deal with this, but I definitely do. I imagine Blake, to a certain extent, does. Although, Blake has a lot more scene control than I do. I'm notably the lack of scene control guy. And if I tell my wife I want to do something,

she does like the... This is not how I would do it on stage. She does like the, well, where are you going to be? When are you getting home? What time are you leaving? Who's going to be there? Yeah, my wife is very inquisitive that way, too. Where are you going? Where have you been?

What did you do? And if she's not here... I don't ask any questions. No, I'm... It's not a single inquiry. I'm just happy she's not here. And when she gets back... You're like, oh, you're home.

Have you noticed this, too? When she's like, like hey how was your day she doesn't want to know about your day no she wants to tell you about her day it's a call and response because i'll be like i don't know fine is i don't know what we did i don't remember what we you know and then she's like well let tell you. Let me tell you about. So the funny part to me was thinking about like in keeping with the theme of the show, like that the guys who did 9-11 like had to explain less than I do. Like they didn't even have to train to land.

They didn't have to. Nobody was like, where are you going to go? Like they didn't even have to provide an answer. I have to be like, all right, seven to 11, this restaurant, this bar,

this is who's here. I'll get the kids up in the morning. And the homeboys from nine 11 are just like, you should just, you should just get that life three 60. Yeah. That you've been against getting. So it's not a great joke, but I do think about 9-11 a lot.

See, that's the thing, and that's the thing about being a stand-up comedian. You can think a lot of funny things or little threads, but how do you then put it together to be in a logical form to actually get somebody to laugh? I mean, I had something written out, but then Blake kind of like kicked my dick in at the start of the setup, so. Well, you're going to have to deal with Blake's in the audience.

That's true. He's just helping. That's true. I thought you had a 9-11 note over the weekend. Oh, you know what? I do. Did I send you guys that? Yeah.

Okay, yeah. So at that children's museum where you can see a brachiosaurus, and you can see how wind works, and you can color, there is a 9-11 memorial with a huge

piece of the tower. And an interactive scene over to the side of it where you can jump out of the... No, not... You can do the falling man. No, but you can press buttons that say, like, attack, response. The attack actually shows the planes hitting the towers.

And then you can hit response, and you see, like, you know, first responders heading to the ground zero. It's insane. It's right when you walk in, too. And like nothing else. Go comfort the widow of a deceased friend. Yeah, exactly.

Now marry that widow. There's a button that says insurance. Donate to a cause that turned out to be a scam. Start a war. There's a book for that. None of the rest of the museum has that vibe at all. There's not like a Civil War thing. There's not like a World War II thing.

Yeah, that's just... It's all just like science. But when you walk in, there's a huge piece of the tower. Just like, because we can. I guess. I think that's what we're learning is that. The people who are selling that stuff contacted every museum in the nation. Yeah.

I got a part of your mail today or tomorrow or sometime, but somebody had told us Joe. I think his name is, Joe Breslin, he went to a 9-11 memorial in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. Yes, sir. There's a place called that. And it's right in front of a cheesecake factory. Baker. There's a Morton Steakhouse.

It's basically a plaza. Yeah, so appreciate that. We appreciate hearing about all the... This all started with the 9-11 Memorial in Grapevine, and now we're just learning about hundreds of them. I will also tell you that, as I mentioned before, my father-in-law was here this weekend, and we were driving back from somewhere,

and there's a sign, actually, on Northwest Highway that says 9-11 Memorial this way. And he was kind of like, what's that about? I was like, oh, you want to see it? Oh. And you can get some Tex-Mex while you're... And we drove by it, and he was like, that's it? Uh-huh.

I'm like, that's what everyone says. What was your weekend? Anything exciting? No. Not really. Okay. I had exciting games in Argyle Friday night, No, not really.

Okay. Had exciting games in Argyle Friday night, and then doing some work for the East-West Shrine game in Frisco this week. Nice. I'm getting a lot of emails about that. Two stars are made. About the Shrine game? Yeah. I must be on.

Somehow. Yeah. Bracket Dan at Hotmail.com got on the mailing list for the East-West Shrine game. I got one more thing. I got into an altercation yesterday. Oh. Of course you did. At flag football?

Mm-hmm. I wanted Blake to come out so bad. I can't. What do you mean? Pussy. Yeah. Me? He's like, I haven't run.

Yeah, I'm not going to get out there and run 110% after having run six months. I needed a body. Oh. Yeah, I can't do that. We were down. Down like four or five guys. And I was like, dude, please come out. He's like, okay.

That's surprising. I thought you were the kind of guy that can just kind of. Like a cheetah. Show up and mash, yeah. I can go at my own of guy that can just kind of show up and mash. I can go at my own pace, but flag football is a different animal. All I needed you to do was block. So if you needed softball, you'd have been there? Yeah, because I can go at my own pace.

Basketball, I can jog. Not flag football. It's different. Did you get enough? Well, obviously you did. I found a buddy, yeah. And so we were playing a team that was sort of an amalgamation of God Squad and one other team. So we didn't pray before, but stay tuned. I would say midway through the game, we had one sub. So I was playing offense.

My buddy that I brought was playing defense. We were the old guys. And there was just an atrocious call. Like the spot was 10 yards off because both of the refs were watching the AFC championship game on their phone. The game was at 2, and I'm like, okay. A riveting affair. I get it, which we'll get to later.

But I'm like, you're paid to be out. I get it, which we'll get to later. But I'm like, you're paid to be out here. You have to at least have your eyes up. And they spotted the ball about eight to nine yards off. And I went on the field and earmuffs kids.

But I was like, that fucking spot is fucking wrong. I was like, and you fucking know that. Did you feel like that's the best way to get it changed? Well, here's the weird thing about it. The flag was on the ground. I'm like, that's where the ball goes. Like if his flag, it's still back there.

It's on the ground. Just saying, just going in with such a controversial attitude. Was it your guy again? It was one of guys. That's why. He was already set off. And, you know, they didn't change it or whatever. And the guy, one of the guys on their team was like, you know,

you can't curse like that in front of my kid. Okay. And I look over, and there is one kid there who appears to be about six months old. My kid was there, and I was like, earmuffs again. A six-month-old kid? I was like, my fucking kid is here. I don't care. They don't know.

There's a six-month-old over there on their sideline and whatever. It chills out. Actually, after the possession, I went up to the guy and I was like, dude, I'm sorry. You know that was wrong. To the ref, not to the guy who says

don't swear in front of my kid to the guy the guy yeah don't swear he was really fired up about it okay and i went up to him and i was like i'm sorry i lost my cool i was like you know okay my bad that's typically how it goes with me right all right yeah i could lose my cool and then immediately i'm like i regret sure honey i didn't mean to yeah you know not to talk to me when I'm drinking. Exactly. And he was like, nah, it's all good and whatever, whatever. Well, when we're leaving,

the guy left alone. So I'm like, you don't have a kid here. You pointed that out to him? No, but I mean, our group chat did. We all walked to the parking lot at the same time together. And he just gets in the car by himself and immediately somebody texted me and they were like, I don't think that guy had a kid there.

What a lame move. To feign having a child. To be upset. Yeah. Anyways, we won. Were you destroying them too? No. Okay, so that's why you're actually worried about this spot of the ball.

Because otherwise, if you're winning by 20. No, this team is, oh, and also, this is the part I was going to wrap up with. It's some of the God Squad guys, like I said. We did the prayer after. And we got in a circle. wrap up with. It's some of the God Squad guys, like I said. We did the prayer after. And we got in a circle and the quarterback for their team asked us to take a knee.

So we took a knee and I was like, oh, Kaepernick. They didn't find that funny. So we take a knee and we do a prayer. And the quarterback was like, you know, he did his normal bit. And the end of his bit is always. Deer.

Eight pounds. Baby Jesus. The end of his bit is always, and thank you so much, Lord, for dying on the cross for our sins. Some of us need it because of our language. Amen. And I go, that was a shot. Some of us laughed. Some of us need it because of our language. Amen. And I go, that was a shot. Some of us laughed.

Some of us didn't. Unbelievable. Yeah. That's my Sunday. It was fun. Well, my weekend, I never really bring you guys anything, but I went to the Mavs game Saturday night.

Hell yeah. The Soroy suite? The Soroy suite. Cash Soroy, who does video work for the Mavs. I think part of his arrangement is he gets

one suite night a year. And he invites his very, very, very, very best friends in the world. And me. And me. And, yeah.

It was a good time. Now, we haven't driven down there in quite some time. Yeah. And I should have gotten a scouting report on... Construction. The massive amount of construction. Yeah. And if you drive that...

If you expect just to turn left at the Oak Lawn, it's just horrible. I would not have, I would have gone Harry Hines had I known. Yeah, or even like Continental. What was in store for me, yeah. It was just terrible. But yeah Got the Was very concerned that Luka wouldn't play Because it was the day after

The 73 point game And I thought well back to back Certainly Luka won't play This would be an easy one to sit out But he did Because Luka cares about each and every one of us That are going to the game I always wonder too

Do they determine his load management based on if they have a road game and a home game, does that play into it at all? For sure. I want to make sure I get the home game. Yeah, for sure. Okay. It does.

Because you would think almost they would rather play the road game because it's very few times you get to see Luka, but you get to see him at home all the time. But, you know, your fans want to see him. Yeah, and you've got to factor in the broadcast, you know? Neither one of those were national games, I don't think, but that's part of it as well. Yeah, there's rules about that now, right?

Yeah, you can be fined. When did you leave? Probably about, with six minutes left in the game, we started to head to the exits. And then it was a wait for the elevator, and then it was a... You need an elevator at the suites, Blake. Yeah.

I'm not familiar. The wife kind of handed it to me when we got to the car about my brisk trip to the car. Because we had to run across the street, run up five flights of stairs. We had Lexus parking, so it was across the street. I don't know if you tried your card. I was going to. Mine doesn't work. Oh, okay. you tried your card i was going to mine doesn't work oh okay mine does i actually was going to you shouldn't have said that i but i couldn't get

around that part because of all the construction too so i just like okay let's just go right in here and uh yes i basically ran to the car and she wasn't keeping up. And I'm running up. Why do I go to the gym? That's for nights like that. For nights I need to run up five flights of stairs in a parking garage. Your game day. Beat traffic.

And then beating traffic. But it was a lot of fun, predictably. Going to a Mavs game in a suite. Mavs games in general. Do you have some chips? I had some popcorn, had some food. Maybe a little salad. Oh, my God.

And maybe. This guy comes to your suite and has a salad. Maybe a little brew, bruv. Little suds. Knocking a couple suds back. Yeah. And. I know your wife did. I think I have.

Oh, man. She was getting sloppy. So I think I have secured the Soroy twins as guests for our Super Bowl stream. Let's go. Both? Both. Wow. Generally, Cash will have a Super Bowl party,

but they're going out of town and getting back the day before. And so they will be here. They will be here on that couch next to Blake. And we've got some big ideas for the Super Bowl stream. We really do. That's going to be fun. And we know who's going to be playing now. So should we lead into NFL talk?

Was that a segue? Yeah, I think you already kind of, yeah. Or is that possibly because we do want to do some Luka talk today. And we're thinking that's kind of what this show basically is, if you're just finding out about us. We talk about football and Luka. We can do Luka first if you're just finding out about us we talk about football and luca we can do luca first if you want um again i referenced uh change the music we don't do we have another one we referenced uh or i referenced having uh my wife's dad in town. It's really cool. It's almost like,

I think about it like, if you have a friend who's never seen The Wire or has never seen The Sopranos and they start watching it, you're like, man, I wish I could be where you are right now.

Like a virgin experience of one of these shows. Watching Luca with my father-in-law who doesn't watch a lot of basketball, he was just like, what is this guy? On Friday night, you know? He's like, how big is he? You know, like he's gone.

He goes to a few Pelican games maybe every other year or something. But he was just like, where's he from? What is he doing? Does he shoot like this all the time? And I'm like, I don't, you know. He's, in my opinion, the best basketball player in the world. He's pretty awesome. And tonight, he's going to score 73

and be up three with two minutes left. Yeah, that's the thing. But it's a weird experience because he's such a different player. Like if you watch him with somebody who doesn't really watch basketball, they're like, what is he doing? You know, it's not like watching, you know, I would say Giannis is almost like a conventional basketball player. And Bede is like, oh, I've seen that.

You know, but Luka, I just don't know that there's ever been anybody like him. So when you watch him with, like, a non-basketball fan, they're very confused as to how he's pulling off what he's pulling off. Because it seems to be something different every time down the floor. Yeah, exactly. You know, Giannis is just, okay, he's bigger than everyone else. He goes down underneath. Same with all the post guys you're used to.

But him hitting a three, then a mid-range, and getting to the bucket, and then assists, it's just... And he's slow. So you're like, how is this working? So I noticed in the Dropbox something Friday, but then we forgot, I don't know if we forgot to play it or if we were just... Rolling.

Just kicking such ass. Yeah. But that... I just saw a short clip of it did you guys want to play the tnt guys i put it in there no not really um the one thing that i was gonna play out of it is just it was uh stemming from our because go back to last friday we were still talking about Luka versus Tim McMahon. Yeah. And that was the big story that week. And then he's on TNT with Shaq and Kenny and them,

and you expect, oh, they're just going to have fun. And the first question they ask him is, so your behavior with the refs? Right, they're grilling him about that. Yeah, and it's just like, at one point, is this embarrassing? You're on TNT, you just got All-Star Game, first question, how are you going to calm down? Like, I don't know, at what point does Lucas say, like,

okay, maybe I should? Well, I mean, I think the moment has passed. He should have a long time ago. Why not? Yeah. But, that's probably a little more weight when you go in that studio, and, yeah, you expect them just to be kissing your ass. But it's interesting, though, is that – because it seemed like Luka Luca under fire and then he pulls out a 73 point game like is there a correlation at all yeah yeah I mean that's that's the point I was

making last week is that I just don't know how you get him to chill out while not affecting the way that he plays the game. Because he plays angry. Yeah. And did that, like without Tim McMahon and Shaq, does he score 73 that night? Don't know. And it's the Hawks also. It's the Hawks and they, yeah, they're the ones that traded him. I like Twitter reaction that day.

I do like the popular retweet. Please tell me this has something to do with Kobe. I'll get there. Okay. Woj. The retweet of Woj, June 21, 2018. Atlanta and Dallas agreed to a deal. They'll trade numbers three and five picks,

sending Luka to Dallas and Trey Young to Atlanta. Dallas sends Atlanta a future first, which is often retweeted when the Mavs play the Hawks, and it is kind of funny. If you kind of remember, not a lot of people, but some people were, did Atlanta win that trade? Especially after they got to the Eastern Conference Finals. Was it Cam?

Cam Reddish? Yeah. The pick? Yeah. But no. If you traded Luka, you didn't win the trade. No. No.

Unless you got Michael Jordan. Jokic. Yeah, Jokic. Maybe you would take Jokic over Luka. No. Well, let me – if you want me just to roll through some Twitter reactions. Magic Johnson. Always an astute sports observer.

Nothing. It's just generic. Congrats to Luka. It's just funny how one of the reasons he left the Lakers, he said, was because he can now tweet about anyone. Because he had to just tweet about Lakers

or else he could be charged with tampering. And now he can just say, Luka, wow. Pound for pound right there with OJ. I hit the table and the dog clings. Pound for pound right there with OJ for the best Twitter account out there. Different angles, but yeah. Yeah.

One of the popular threads from Mavs fans, and this tires me out. One of the popular threads from Mavs fans, and I just, this tires me out. It's the same thing of I always have to, kind of the same thing we'll maybe touch on with the NFL. Like, oh, is Lamar going to get the DAC treatment? Well, yes. Number one, yeah. He's absolutely going to be, the Lamar discourse is he can't win the big one he's now two and four two and five two and four four yeah he's got one less loss than deck two and four in in in playoff games

and i think harbaugh's like three and six oh yeah i mean he has got to the big game. The championship game. But, yes. But this is what it tires me out to see fans. Oh! Embiid scores 70 on 41 shots and 23 free throws against the second worst team in the league.

And people say, wow, best offensive scorer ever. He's the next Wilt. Lucas, 73 points on 33 shots, 16 free throws, while missing his second best player. What happened to defense? 70 is the new 50. The NBA sucks today. Which is, that's some of the discourse out there,

but I just think it's silly. Yeah, I mean, there was always. It happened. There were two or three of them in a week, right? Like, Book scored 60. Cat scored 50 or 60. And, you know, I tweeted something about, like, how this is annoying that you can have a guy who can score 73 points

and you're sweating out a close game at the end. Yeah, for sure. And people are like, oh, yeah, well, other teams do this. out a close game at the end. Yeah, for sure. And people are like, oh, yeah, well, other teams do this. I'm like, okay, well, I seriously think the Mavericks have a bottom five roster outside of their top two players. Like if you took the top two players on every team in the league

and then took the next eight, the Mavericks are clearly, clearly in the bottom. Yeah, and a lot of that is because of what you had to give up to get that second player. Yeah, and a lot of it's what you had to give up to get the second player that didn't work out. Yeah. In KP.

You know, I mean, that's a massive expenditure of resources and money. Brunson walking for nothing. I'm not, like, hating on Luka. I'm appreciating it. I'm standing up in my living room the whole time, like, dude, I'm not hating on Luka. I'm appreciating it. I'm standing up in my living room the whole time excited. And people are like, why can't you just enjoy this? I'm like, because their team sucks. They're not a good team.

Not a good team, folks. And the Mike Leslie tweet says, Luka with a career-high 73 points on the fourth anniversary of Kobe's death, the difference between Luca's point total and Kobe's iconic 81-point game. Eight. I'm going to kill myself. Not at halftime. 73 minus 8, 65.

Do we have anything for 65? No. 8 plus 73, 81. Didn't he score 81? Tweet it. Does anybody go off the day he raped that girl? Interesting. Maybe somebody who's playing the Nuggets.

I believe the Canadian junior hockey team was once celebrating that. Okay, yeah. junior hockey team was once celebrating that. Okay, yeah. That's as far as, as much as I know about that story is there was like

a junior hockey team and I think there's a sexual assault. Yeah. Weren't there seven other people that died that day? Do we not care

about them at all? Did they score anyone? Well, we kind of care about his daughter. Yeah. The others, we certainly don't care about that terrible pilot. I mean, gosh certainly don't care about that terrible pilot.

I mean, gosh, he's the one that killed him. Kind of wrecked a chopper into the mountain range. Yeah. The only other thing from that appearance was I was shocked that Luca is bigger than Charles Barkley. Yes. It looks like significantly. In all the videos I see, Barkley's just manhandling everyone in the 90s, and Luka's bigger than he is?

Well, he was the round mound of rebound. He was like a big guy, you know. So the guy that's – I feel like I'm name dropping a lot today. But the guy that I grew up next to that played with OJ. Yeah. They lived in Chattanooga, Tennessee. That's where his son played basketball and football. And they knew Barkley.

And he was like, dude, he's not a big – he's like 6'4", 6'5". Like they trained with him all the time and they were like, he's no bigger than you are, like height-wise. And in my mind, Barkley was like 6'10". Yeah, big. Like growing up. I would have was like 6'10". Yeah, big. I would have thought like 6'8". Man, I don't think so. Yeah, no.

Luka towers over him and he's much thicker throughout. He's listed at 6'6", but I remember hearing, dude, he's 6'5". He's smaller than both of us. They worked out with him a lot. He's smaller than both of us. They worked out with him a lot. Yeah, Luka, first player ever to average a 50-point triple-double over a two-game span, which he did. Did you see Grant Williams' Instagram post?

What's that? I think Grant Williams had nine. He was like 82 points together. Was the picture of him holding a 73, is that Photoshopped? No, I think they had him do that. Okay. I don't want it to be Photoshopped. We've gotten a lot of good memes out of that.

I think they had him do it. Yeah, me to my parents when I bring home a science test. It's cool. It's pretty good. I think Falwell pointed out a lot of things about it, but, you know, he raised his scoring average

an entire point. In one night? In one night. So after 36, or 38 games, that's like an impossible thing to do. Yeah. Especially if you already average

33 a game. Yeah. Especially if you already average 33 a game. Yeah. You know, all his percentages raised significantly. It's a wild ride, man, because they're not really very good. Yeah, you actually got to see

a pretty good Grant Williams. I don't know how much of the game you got to watch. Yeah, I watched a, you know, half of the time I was there I much of the game you got to watch. Yeah, I watched a, you know, half of the time I was there, I was watching the game. The Kings are better than they are. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's a team you've fallen behind. And yeah, we're just going to be in play and watch with an all-NBA player, first-teamer, for the rest of the year, which is a unique experience. As I think I told you guys, whenever we were in our former job,

I went through 30 years. There have been two all NBA players to miss the playoffs. And it was Steph Curry in his sort of down hurt year. And they were in the plan. And it was Anthony Davis who immediately demanded a trade. And watching him play, he needs like two weeks off. He definitely does.

He's so banged up. He's always going to be banged up, though. He's always going to be banged up because he just runs into people. Yeah. It's not even a matter of like he needs to be in better condition. No. It's that the way he plays, he just runs into people. And he's never going to get an all-star break off.

No. He would have to turn it down. And he goes and plays in the international thing. Every opportunity he gets for country pride. This is just kind of the experience. Well, Luca's good. And he is the reason to go see the Mavericks. That or somebody inviting you for free.

Yes. In a suite. Yeah. That's very key. Yeah. All right. Let's do NFL in a minute. But first.

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I got a great deal because I was at Grapevine Ford. That's right, folks. But you should mention that you know us. That would help. That'll help us us That would help That'll help us Yeah That would help Adam Adam Romo is probably more publicly recognizable

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And the only reason Chaz was not in court was because we correctly thought that our case was strong enough without asking Chaz to be there. But he absolutely would have been there. would have been there. I would say of everyone who appeared in court, including everyone in the forthcoming lawyer roundtable, our magistrate enjoyed Adam Romo's presence the most.

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Well, it is time for us to slide into some football talk. Thanks, Blake. I'm going to save some stuff for later in the week, like maybe tomorrow. Okay. But I will let you know that my cowboy note this week is Micah's mom has entered the discourse. Not just the brother? Micah's mom is now on the scene. But like I said, I'm saving that. What a tease.

Yeah. Don't go look for it, anyone. It's explosive. Don't go look for it, anyone. It's explosive. But we take our attention to other teams. Other teams. And can we use the Chiefs and 49ers and look at the Super Bowl logo color scheme

and come up with a... It doesn't fit, right? I don't think it does. Damn. Sorry, Aaron. Or a... A... A asshole.

Remember Jimmy Kimmel Colton? I was so sure that was real. Then did you see the grocery store TikTok going around? Mark that, Beth They already had like cookie cakes With the Ravens and 49ers logo on it What did they know?

What, like at halftime they're making them? Or because of the logo? They were already out in distribution Chiefs, 49ers No, Ravens Ravens, because that was the conspiracy theory That was the color scheme They were already out in distribution. Chiefs 49ers. No. Ravens. Ravens. Because that was the conspiracy theory.

That was the color scheme. Oh, okay. Because of the color scheme. Okay. Got it. Yeah. So I guess those are going to be shipped off overseas or something. Yeah.

You've got to send the cakes to Somalia. That only makes sense. The halftime issue was the Detroit game. Yeah. Which game do you want to start with? We can go chronologically. I thought the weirdest thing about what we saw from Baltimore yesterday was, I mean, every single person that you hear talk about the Ravens is just

they're a model organization. It doesn't matter if it's the GMs can change, the quarterback can change, the talent level around the quarterback can change. I thought that was like the most uncharacteristically Baltimore game I've ever seen. Like they lost their cool so many times. And we're hearing from the sideline that Zay Flowers lacerated his hand on the bench after fumbling, it just felt like they're always a cool, calm, collected team. And they got frustrated.

Bunch of personal fouls, fumbles, strip sack, whatever. It was just weird to see them implode. Like, I expect that from Dallas. Dallas just kind of does that. But it was weird to see that from Baltimore. And then from Patrick, I mean, I think he's the greatest football player who's ever touched the grass. And statistically, his numbers yesterday don't look like, you know,

some of the other games he's had. But I don't know. I just feel like he's in control all the time. And all year we've been talking about, like, hey, did the Chiefs have it this year? Like, you know, speaking of supporting cast, like their supporting cast is terrible. Whatever was happening with Kadarius Toney over the weekend,

which we can talk about in a minute if you want. And he just – he's just that good it's brady belichick you know four super bowls in five years and he's been starting for six yeah that's stupid yeah yeah and the only reason he didn't get to the super bowl his first year is because tom brady beat him yeah like and was because Tom Brady beat him. Yeah. And then Tom Brady beat him in the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl. That he lost. Yeah.

With the Bucs, yeah. And I know people probably, again, get tired of hearing me talk about this. We continue Name Drop Monday, but the fact that I've been in the room while the greatest football player of all time is working out. I feel like it's something I should not stop talking about. Like, and the stuff that I've seen him do,

it's, it's not just random. Like they practice that stuff. Like the off platform stuff, the balance stuff. I've seen that guy go through a workouts that I've never seen another football player do in my life. He's not that athletic. He's not going to test well.

He's not that fast. He's not that quick. I thought one of the coolest plays was when he was sacked. Yeah. He was getting sacked, but somehow... Got rid of the ball. With his left... No, he was sacked in the end on this one.

Okay, that one, yeah. The sack where his knees get bent down, but he's falling down. With his left hand, I think, he braced himself. Then he spun, and I think... Yeah. Somehow then he held onto the ball, and it looked... He might escape. I mean, he was just getting swarmed, but then he still on to the ball, and it looked he might escape.

I mean, he was just getting swarmed, but then he still got sacked in the end. But it was like an amazing athletic play to stay alive as long as he did. And then the nine seconds in the pocket on the throw to Kelsey. Like, he's Gumby. And I'm telling you, like, I've watched this in person. That is not just like – that doesn't just happen. Obviously, some of it is genetics, but like the way that they work out, it's very different.

This is a lame question, but could you feel like his energy? Like, that's Patrick Mahomes. Like, did he have an aura around him? Because there's some people you're around that's like, oh my god. And I got that around CeeDee Lamb. I don't know. The weird thing about it is when I first started going there, he was like a junior.

A tech? Yeah. Okay. And so nobody really cared at all. Nobody knew who he was. I mean, I did, but the suburban moms I was working out with didn't really have any idea. And then obviously by about three or four years after that, yeah, maybe a little bit.

But it's weird, though, because he's so unassuming. I would tell you this. Being 10 feet away from Noah Sindergaard, way bigger deal. Yeah. Because he looks like a god. Right. Like he's huge. And he has like flowing blonde long hair.

And he punishes weights. Patrick's just kind of there. Standing on a balance beam. I love looking at that draft. Yeah. I think there are some teams that don't love looking at that draft, but other teams? Yeah, I mean, so who did the Browns have at that time? This is 2017.

Baker was after that, right? Because this is the Miles Garrett was number one overall. So the Browns are still on Manziel? No, no. They were journeymanning it. Trubisky. Yeah. That's the big one.

That's the big one because many of us said at the time, like, whoa, what? Trubisky? That was where they traded up to get him. The Browns led Deshaun Kaiser, who went 0-15. So really, Trubisky was the only quarterback taken ahead of him. Watson was around. Des him. Watson was around. Deshaun Watson was 12. Yeah.

Okay. The Chiefs got him at 10. Did they move up? Yes. Yeah. Which, if you recall, was controversial at the time because Alex Smith was extremely capable. I'm pretty sure they were in the playoffs the year before. And that was a big deal.

And that's a story that my brothers told me before that the Saints really, really wanted him. They wanted to move up. But, like, Drew found out about it. It was like... Drew? Oh, Drew Brees. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. It was like, Drew? Oh, Drew Brees. Yeah. Oh, really?

Yeah. It was like, absolutely not. So they didn't have that relationship that obviously Aaron Rodgers, when you take a quarterback in the first round. Yeah, and it's a little bit different if you trade up to 30 and you trade up to 10. Because the Saints, if you look, the Saints are picking 11th, and they took Marshawn Lattimore.

And Patrick was taken at 10. But Breeze is probably why the Packers didn't tell Rodgers they were taking Love. Yeah. Until, like, the pick is in. That's when he had to pour himself some tequila, as he said. They must have just thought that was a bad quarterback draft

overall. Just the people. Right? The Browns? No. Just if there's not... General NFL intelligence. Yeah, if you're not picked 1, 2, 3, you're thinking it's a bad quarterback draft. Somehow Trubisky got 2. I don't think anyone else picks Trubisky at two. No.

Except somehow the Bears thought that was a thing we needed to. McCaffrey's in that draft, so that's a rare time where you're going to see a running back at the top. There's some great players. That was the Taco Charlton year. And what really hurts there is that T.J. Watt was taken two picks later. And there was still a notion about Big 12 quarterbacks at that time. I mean, there still is.

There still is, yeah. And for me, it was just that I had seen almost his entire college career. Like my wife went there, a bunch of my friends went there, and I would watch them every week, and I'm like, this guy is carrying this team to six wins. Did you think he'd be great? Yes. Okay.

We have audio of that that we can't play. Okay. Because I know we were all saying, Lamar Jackson, Cowboys should take a chance on him. For sure. He fell so far. For sure. But, dude, I mean, in college.

But Cowboys weren't going to move up to 10 to get. No. No way. But in college, like, he was hurt the whole time because his team sucked. He had to score 60 points a game to stay competitive. He was playing on, you know, one leg and one shoulder the whole time. And he would still go out and get them competitive. And it was awesome.

That Baker game. Dude, that is, I've said this before, that is my favorite football game of all time. I remember where I was. I remember everything about it. The Baker-Patrick game is unbelievable. I think it was like 83 to 72. Let me look it up. From what I remember of the game, it's like OU would score in five plays because they were just that much better than Tech, and then Mahomes would just have to be Superman. They'd score on nine or ten.

He'd grind his ass all the way down there. And that's when we had the – 66-59, Dan. Sorry, I overshot it a little bit. And that's when we had – You got excited. We had the F.U. Baker. Like every time that's when we had the F.U. Baker. Like every time he came on the field, F.U. Baker. It was great.

So much fun. So the Kadarius Tony thing was apparently he had a baby. Good for him. Friday night, Saturday night, and the Chiefs said he was out because of an injury, and he went off on Instagram saying that they're lying about his injury. Can I read you the stat real quick? Yeah. That night, Patrick was 52 for 88.

88? For 734 yards. Jeez. 88? For 734 yards. Jeez. 88 passes. Baker, 27 of 36 for 545 and 7 touchdowns. And you can't get

player of the game. Unbelievable. Sorry, yeah. Just a note. I guess more of, you know, there can be distractions, but they either distract you or they don't. Yeah, I mean. And so it's another, at the end, you might point back to it and say, oh, my gosh, that really was a problem.

But then if you win, it's a, well, we just handle our things. Yeah. Adversity. I mean, you could probably say the same thing about the Swifty thing, right? Yeah, for sure. Had they lost. In my mind, when Patrick Queen is on Kelsey, I'm like, is he saying something about Taylor Swift?

Yeah, well, to me, that's hard to trash talk somebody he saying something about Taylor Swift? Yeah, well, to me, that's hard to trash talk somebody because you're dating Taylor Swift. Yeah, but you know, we've heard from guys throughout the year that are like, that have mentioned it. Say again? Keep ripping me. Yes, I'm

nailing the most popular chick in the world. Nailing? I'm assuming they're nailing. Yeah, I don't know that I've done anything that would qualify as nailing in a long time. But I'm not Travis Kelsey. Well, because you make love. That's right. I was interested in what Blake was going to finish up with there.

I would imagine he's got a little more tea and approaches it differently than you do, but I don't know. You've never seen me. I haven't. Not yet. What? Not yet. That's why we go to France. 20k subs. Kelsey now has the record for postseason receptions. He got it in 21

games. Who did he pass? He passed Jerry Rice, who had it in 29 games. Just think, though. I know. If only they would have thrown that ball around. But they didn't. They had many other options. How many catches did Tim Rathman have?

So many. Alright, so Zay Flowers. The taunting was exceptionally egregious, right? Yeah, that's a bad bit, man. You got to... As a guy who yelled a couple F-bombs in a rec game yesterday, even I know. I mean, he kind of pushed him down.

That you can't... They're going to call that every single time. Spun the ball at him. Hovered over him, you know, flexing. Like, that's just dumb. The defender was trying to hold him down. I'm not defending him. I'm just saying I don't think he was just taunting the catch.

I think the guy had his ankle. So kind of second guy? Well, I think that's why he pushed him. Yeah, that's definitely why he pushed him. Okay. But still. You're right, still. You know, and some were saying that Kelsey keeps taunting.

Well, there's a difference between doing it at the person and then just kind of... You can't stand over him. Celebrating, yeah. It was just stupid. Then you might even think that where he got the fumble at the goal line... That's a Belichick no-no. Right, we've talked about that many times. You don't reach for the goal line.

I don't think he needed to. I don't think he did. That's a great point. I don't think he needed to either. I would say the only thing about reaching is do it at the pylon. Because then you could just touch the pylon. He was like six, seven yards inside the pylon.

At that point, you're like, dude, there's too much traffic here. You're not going to be able to get away with that. That was a bad bit. And then, yeah, the fact that he then went and cut his hand open on a bench. Lamar is pretty awesome when he threw the pass to himself and got

13 yards. I don't know that I've ever seen that work out like that before. The tip pass, he caught it, and then he actually gained a bunch of yards. Yeah, that was cool. And if not, they're right there in easy scoring position. Man, if nothing else from yesterday and before we go to the other game, I just feel it for that guy. Lamar?

Yeah, I really want him to get one. Not just for Savi, but for Lamar. Take a look at his playoff losses. He's been bad. First one was against the Chargers in 2018. Was that Phillip Rivers? 23-17 they lost. 23-17 they lost.

He had 194 yards passing, two touchdowns, one pick, and only 54 yards rushing. The next year they lost 28-12 to Tennessee. 365 yards passing, 143 yards rushing. Damn. Somehow they only scored 12. That might be the one where he was good. I mean, you do wonder.

Fourth downs. You know, I mean, Dak puts up big numbers in a game they were just getting drilled in. So I don't know. But you do look at the overall point total, 17-12. The next loss he had, they lost at Buffalo 17-3. That one I remember. So there he is. He's averaging 10 points a game in the playoffs. 162 yards passing, 34 yards rushing.

Lost and then lost yesterday. Yeah, that's the fourth. They lost last year, but he wasn't playing, if you recall. That pick at the end, man, and him slamming his helmet, I just felt that as like, oh, dude. Definite pass interference, right? 100%. Also, definite? A hundred percent. Also, definite you shouldn't throw. Now you might not throw three into three defenders.

Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, the receiver got hip-checked. And then, of course, Gene Steratore, I don't know why he's on there, just to say the NFL officials are great, and that's a good no call. Why don't we just record that and we'll use it as a drop? Yeah, what if we just pay you a one-time fee to say that and we don't have to drag you in here every week? You guys want to hear something funny?

Travis Kelsey makes about the same as Michael Gallup. Oh, man. Ouch. Yeah. I just remember reading before the season started, I think I was doing a Dalton Schultz research project or something, and it's like, how is it possible that we're getting away with paying the best tight end in football,

who ostensibly is the best receiver in football, like $12 or $13 million a year. But Michael Gallup makes the exact same thing. And so does every other spare second or third wide receiver. Travis Kelsey should make $25 a year. Yeah, so the tight end market hasn't caught up. Kittle and all those guys. There has to be enough tight ends.

I know, that's the thing. That are good. Yeah. Like that good. There's like five. Three or five, yeah. Mark Andrews, Kittle, Kelsey. I heard someone else mention this, so I wish I thought of it first,

but haven't mentioned this part of it. so I wish I thought of it first, but haven't mentioned this part of it. The thought that what if they win the Super Bowl and Kelsey proposes to Taylor Swift on the field? No way. I feel like that's something that he wouldn't just spring on her. Well, I mean, I've already seen reports that are like, they're getting engaged this offseason. She was on the field last night.

She was talking to Romo. That was weird. That was super weird. The whole thing is weird. Okay, so... So she's going to be at every game now? Well, now we're looking at the schedule that she could... Fly back from Japan or something?

Because, yeah, that was the far away look a month ago. They were like, oh, no, she's on a European tour. Not a European. South American. Yeah. They're the three seed. South American. Yeah.

Wasn't she like in like Venezuela or something? No, I think it's like Japan. No, I'm saying before. Like when she missed like three or four games. No, no, no. But they were looking ahead to say, okay, if they are in the Super Bowl, she won't be able to be there because her tour is in Japan. And yeah, now it's like, well, okay.

But if she gets off the stage hops a private flight right away that's a 13 hour flight she'll get there in time it killed me for the game she's certainly gonna be there yeah although what kind of jet lag are you getting there i guess you still gotta be there she loves her private jets the No, I'm not familiar with this She is Not the favorite child Of the climate activists Yeah

She's like the most prolific Private jet user in the world Which I know you respect Yeah, I'm really pro-climate But if I had the Means I might have to get one pro climate, but if I had the means for a PJ, I might have to get one. You talk about Baltimore's

mistakes, though. How do they have 12 men on the field to start the final drive? Really weird. As Kansas City starts their final drive. Really weird. They look disorganized. They got away from the run. And then the... So now it's first and five. And you're you're like okay we're just going

to take an offside so this the clock doesn't start and it can be a first and ten let's do that that guy just blew up a line like just yeah mashed him and it was a 15 yard penalty very like the unnecessary roughness. Idiotic. Yeah. They had multiple on the day. I heard that they wanted to get a personal foul on purpose because you can decline in offsides. So rather than do this whole song and dance.

Interesting. That is not worth 10 yards, though. Blow them up and get a first and 10. That is not worth. I don't know the validity of and get a first and 10. That is not worth. I don't know the validity of that. That's just what I read. That's interesting. Can you keep going off sides in perpetuity?

Or is there some rule about you have to accept one of these? I've heard that mentioned before, but yeah. Belichick's done that before. Like he just keeps doing it? Yeah. Well, the Jets. There's no way out of that? Well, this was the delay of game.

I think it was the delay of game, yeah. Belichick was trying to take a delay of game to get his punter more yardage. And they kept declining it? The Jets and Adam Gase kept declining it, so he kept doing it. And he ran like two minutes off the clock. You guys want to hear another flag football story? Sure. Yesterday at the end of the game, our conversion didn't matter.

It was like 26-21. And it was like, well, if they score, they're going to win either way. I mean, it's 25-21 maybe. So we took a delay a game just to, like, kill the clock. And I was standing over. I had come out of the game at this point. I'm over with the ref, and one of the guys on the other team's dad was there.

And one of their guys started yelling, jokingly, cool dude. He's like, can we assess that on the ensuing possession? Okay. Which you can't. No, but it's funny to ask. No, that's not how that works. And this guy's dad goes, actually, they can't No but It's funny to ask No that's not how that works And this guy's dad goes

Actually they can't And I go No They definitely can't And he goes I played flag football for 30 years Oh okay And I said

I've been playing for 20 Okay And he said Geez you're old as shit That's funny I was like thanks man but you look good but as far as ensuing

possession what can we decline and accept but no overall I just thought it was a it was a weird day for Baltimore I hate it for Lamar and then Mahomes with that the final completion just ballsy. Yeah.

Yeah. The best to do it. All right. Before we move on to the other game, though. Other game? Did you hear Andy Reid at the podium with Jim Nance? Here we go. That defense, man.

They were dirty tough today. I look forward to seeing you in Las Vegas. Congratulations, Andy. Jim, I appreciate you. Thank you. Nobody better. Thank you, pal. I appreciate you.

Oh, appreciate you, pal. Nobody better. Nobody better. Except for everyone else. So obviously they won the Lamar Hunt trophy. And I got to thinking, what is the trophy that the NFC gives out? What is the trophy for the NFC? Jake versus Blake.

I'm going to go, no. See, Lombardi's a big boy. Lombardi is not the answer. Yeah. There's got to be somebody that's well-known. I'm going to guess that. Don't you have the answer? Sure.

I'm just trying to fill time here while you guys are... I'm going to go with... time here while you guys are... I'm going to go with... Is it Mara? Is it Mara? Mara related? The Wellington Mara Trophy. Final answer? Yes!

I'm going to go off the board and say that it doesn't have a name. The George Hallis Trophy. God dang it. The George Hallis Trophy. That was so right there in front of us. Wellington Mara. I don't know.

I mean, they've owned the team forever. They're in New York. That was a good guess. That was good prod value. Hey, thanks, guys. Now, the Dan Campbell Bowl. Damn, that was a layup, wasn't it? It was, yeah.

Dang. If I didn't want to hold the show up more, I would have probably been able to scan through the entire It's definitely not the David Tepper trophy Not yet Not yet At halftime You had to be like, whoa

They can do this I thought of you Plus 1425, man. What's that? Your odds when you – Oh, to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm down to Stefanski, coach of the year.

That is not a place you want to be. No, he did a hell of a job. He did. Five quarterbacks. He did. He did. Now you got the angry OC. Ken Dorsey.

So, where do we start? Do we start with the mate, Dan Campbell? Being criticized? For the fourth downs? Yeah, for the aggressiveness? Yeah, probably. It's great when it works out, but yeah.

I mean, if Reynolds catches it. You know, it wasn't even a bad throw. Yeah, Reynolds had two bad catches. Or two bad drops. Fourth and three at the 30, though. Like, what are you going to do? Leading, but see, the question is, because in the first half, they did kick a field goal to go up three scores.

Yeah. So you're up by 14. Let's kick this field goal. That's not characteristic of what Dan Campbell would usually do on a fourth and two or three. They led the NFL this year on going for it when two or three yards to go. In fact, over the last two seasons, they went for it 23 times an nfl high with two or three yards to go they converted that 70 of the time so this takes out the whole two-point conversion thing 55 or whatever they do it 70 so now you're going on a – that's certainly a shorter,

smaller sample size than the entire NFL, but you are pretty confident that you can hit these plays. Yeah, I think from 47, it's like not that different. Yeah, that's the second – or the last one. Yeah. Yes. But the first one they gave up was at the 28. And the question is, hey, you had a chance to go up three scores again and you didn't.

We thought that's how you were playing here. That's why you could say the first instance of you not being Dan Campbell aggressive was logical because you went up three scores. So you could say that again. Of course, if that catch is made, like you said, it was a great pass. If that catch is made, the drive continues, they win the game, then you are crediting Dan Campbell for his aggressive nature

for getting them to the Super Bowl. Now some are saying it is Dan Campbell's over-aggressive nature is the reason they didn't get to the Super Bowl. It's legitimately, you can actually look and say it was execution. Of course. Because sometimes, you know, we'll make fun of Dion for throwing players under the bus or whatever.

Coaching staff didn't do anything wrong here. It kind of seems like that's actually the way it is. Yeah, I mean, when you make those decisions, though, you have to factor in the fact that execution is part of it. You're also not expecting to immediately give up a touchdown and then have Jameer Gibbs fumble and completely turn the game around. But you do have to factor that in. Let me point out that fumble, too, and the drop pass because I did get, predictably.

A lot of momentum. I got a lot of momentum. Hey, momentum, see? Momentum. It's real. Okay, there are, out of every 10 games where there is a big momentum thing, maybe a couple of them, maybe three, maybe four. It might even be five.

We'll go, oh, look, that team then did win. But just about an equal number, if not more, will that team that started to gain momentum they came up short they didn't end up winning so that's actually we got a lot of email about this last week on the concept of the term that i was looking for which is survivor bias i think camera we were talking about seat belts or helmets or what but it's that yeah i mean all the people who it didn't work out for dead so like everyone's like i didn't work out for are dead. So, like, everyone's like, I didn't wear a seatbelt.

I don't wear a helmet. I'm fine. Like, well, yeah, but. So that's the thing is, like, momentum people are almost like hypochondriacs. Where they're like, the only time it sticks out to them is the time when it validates the way that they're presenting it. Yeah. Where in reality, it's like, you don't even think about the other. I would say it's way less than 5 out of 10.

I would say it's about 1 out of 10 that it actually, some sort of change of event. Momentum didn't make Gibbs run the wrong way to get the handoff and then have it in the wrong hand. Momentum didn't make him drop that pass. Momentum didn't have the Ravens win with the big crowd behind them. Exactly. Exactly. Why didn't the momentum carry Detroit to convert more fourth downs when they were up?

Because they had momentum that first half. Yeah, they did. I thought. Yeah, but then San Francisco started getting the momentum, and I just knew it. I mean, I know it when I see it. It's so stupid. I hate it. I hate it.

You want to hear Campbell talk about it? Sure. Obviously, first question in the postgame was, say you had two failed fourth downs, and he gives his thoughts. Yeah, that just felt really good about us converting and getting our momentum and not letting them play long ball. You know, they were bleeding the clock out.

That's what they do. And I wanted to get the upper hand back, you know, and it's easy hindsight. I get it. You know, I get that. But I don't regret those decisions, and that's hard. You know, it's hard because, you know, we didn't come through. We wasn't able to work out, but I just don't. I don't.

And I understand the scrutiny I'll get. That's part of the gig, man. But, you know, we just didn't work out. I love him so much, you know. Like, that's how I want to be talked to, is like, hey, I get it. It didn't work out, but that's on me. Like, you just don't hear, I don't want to say McCarthy. Like, it's not all about McCarthy, but you just don't hear most NFL coaches, frankly, speak in those ways of, and to be honest with you, as like, you know, all of us played sports at some point or another, that's the type of person I want to play for.

That's like, just go do it. I believe in you. I'm not going to run a foreign guy out here. And then when it doesn't work out, you acknowledge that, like, hey, I get it. Hindsight, that's the way you're going to analyze this. But I don't know. I would run through a GD wall for that guy. Yeah, and I've heard a lot of people say that, you know, fourth down conversions is that's what's got him there that's you're missing the point and he said it in that clip he believed in his guys

enough to go for it and that's the point is because i heard that i heard that a lot right oh ride the horse that got you there go for it on fourth down that's campbell just believes in you enough as a player to put his trust in you, and that's what got them there, is this relationship. No, that's a good way to state it, because to me, and I said this to our friend Matt last week, I think that's the coolest part about the fact that it's Dan Campbell who's the one who's leading this revolution, but you know what I mean, that he's like a big badass. And he's like, I'm going to be the guy who goes full nerd.

Because it's not nerdy. It's just, I believe that more football plays executed by football players will gain more yards. That's all it is. And he's not afraid to be Because the reason that most people don't do this In the NFL Is because they're worried about being bad Unconventionally

You know that's what was so unique to me about like Chip Kelly Is he was like F it I don't care I'm going to try this if it doesn F it. I don't care. I'm going to try this. If it doesn't work out, I don't care. Most football coaches, most coaches in general, they're not just scared of being bad. They're scared of being bad unconventionally because that's way more criticizable than just being bad. And Dan Campbell just doesn't seem to care. And I love that.

Yeah, they change the way they do things or believe in things because they're afraid of getting fired. Exactly. That's what most people do. Most people want to color in the lines, and if they go 8-8 doing it the normal way, then whatever, just didn't work out. Well, because their boss is there.

Of course. That's not convention. They're not used to that. Of course. It just didn't work out. Well, because their boss is there. Of course. That's not convention. They're not used to that. Of course. It's risk aversion. Yeah, well, you made the right choice even when they didn't. Right. I did want to say, so right before half, they kicked to go up three scores,

and I think that's the point that everyone's pointing to is it was the same exact situation in the second half but I will say that these again like we talked about last week these are not decisions made in a vacuum if you when you were kicking with 12 seconds left in the half that removes the field position aspect of the whole game

yeah so if you go for it and don't get it you get no points and then San Francisco just runs out the clock and we reset things yeah that's a popular reason why people do go for it and don't get it, you get no points, and then San Francisco just runs out the clock and we reset things. That's a popular reason why people do go for it on the goal line. That's a good point. So I don't think those two situations are comparable. Now, although it was from a little bit further back,

but San Francisco is trying to crawl their way back in. Dan Campbell said, you know, we were trying to play against San Francisco there and keep the ball out of their hands, get some of our mojo back, and you play the field position game. I think those two situations were very different. Now the other criticized point is something that probably wouldn't matter in the end, but it was at the very end. I think it mattered.

was at the very end i think it mattered when they ran it on third and goal and had to use a timeout because you okay so the point there is you're down 10 you need a touchdown and a field goal you'd like to get the touchdown but you can also just kick that field goal and keep yourself more time you know so some some might even say, boy, once I get to the, you know, inside the 20, let's kick a field goal, like now. Now, if there's enough time, you might do that. What, three minutes or so? Maybe you'll do that and hope your defense can get a stop. You know, if you have your three timeouts.

Which is what they were around, I think. When the drive started? Or when they got inside the field goal range? I think they were approaching. They got the ball back with three minutes left. Okay. Of course, if you do that and you miss the field goal, now you're really screwed.

The game's over. So you want to get the tougher one first, I guess. But also, sometimes a Hail Mary is a better chance than an onside kick because nobody gets an onside kick anymore, it doesn't seem. I hate it. Which is why we want the 4th and 15 rule. They've got to do something, man. Onside kicks are an exciting football play.

Figure something out. How did they make it so we can't get them anymore because you have to have equal number on each side of the kicker. What's the exact rule, Blake? Like you used to be able to load up one side? Yeah, I think that's it. I remember that. But I think teams have just gotten better about how to field it.

Because it used to just be everyone go for the ball. And he topped that thing nice too. Yeah. I thought like they might have a shot here. But now everyone does the smart thing in blocks and you just have one guy receive i mean it's just innovation so my question though is all right obviously going forward on fourth down is a dan campbell call when you are running the ball inside, you know,

at the end of the game there, running it on third down, is that the can-do-no-wrong Ben Johnson, who's the offensive coordinator who's probably going to go get the Washington job? That's what everybody's saying? Like, he's the brilliant genius behind Dan Campbell. Really, the reason Dan Campbell can do all these things because of the great Ben Johnson. Is he the one calling that play?

Is that where Dan Campbell, is he being criticized for not being the CEO coach saying, hey, whoa, whoa? And is there time to say, hey, whoa, whoa? No. In that, you know, you're calling a play. Is there a chance for him to pull that back? No, there's not. Okay.

I mean – So that's not a Dan Campbell call, really? I don't think it is. I mean, there's a scant amount of time to make those sorts of play calls, and I don't think – if you have like a real offensive coordinator, which they do, I don't think your head coach is overriding that, calling something in. What are you going to do?

Are you going to call another timeout? I mean, at that point, it's like he's calling in the play. That's what it's going to be. And, look, none of us have been on the sidelines of an NFL game or on headset, but I know someone who has. How much did you pay for a tape of that? That'd be pretty sweet. A tape of all the headset chatter.

I would pay... $690? It's like an SAP thing where you just hit it on your... I mean, I would pay untold amounts of money. Because when I first got interested in this, it really was when my brother was in the XFL. Because they were like, this is something we can sell. And it was awesome. Like, listening to, like, Norm Chow.

Yeah. Like, yell at Josh Johnson. Okay, so they actually did that. Oh, yeah. You could hear the play call. You could hear the play call every time. It's really cool. And, like, my brother's in the booth with a headset on.

Profanity? They would dump. It was delayed. Okay. So they would dump out of that. But you could definitely. Racial? Yeah.

You could definitely hear frustration. Yeah. And anger. It was great. Because that's all that is. It's a bunch of dudes who have two lips of Copenhagen, six Red Bulls or Diet Cokes, and they're just screaming at each other for four hours

like their life is on the line. Exactly. It's great. Real men, you know. What are your thoughts on Purdy? I think he sucks, but he played a great game in the fourth quarter anyways. I don't think he's any good. Like who knew he could run?

Yeah, I mean, I did know. He picks an opportune time. He definitely got out of the pocket nicely a couple times yesterday. He got lucky on that. Could have been an interception. Went off the face mask. Very lucky that I caught it. I don't like him.

And I don't think he's very good. But that's mainly just because he's advanced deeper into the playoffs than my quarterback. You don't like him as a person? I don't like his vibe at all. I think he's a dork. I thought that gif of him was funny, him walking up to the game. Did you see what he's wearing? I didn't see that.

He's just dressed like a typical suburban dad. He looked like Kirk Cousins, and somebody put over him walking in. My dad, when he shows up to the airport six hours early for a flight because he's got all of his bags. I'm probably just jealous. That's all it is. It's going to be an interesting contract

situation with him. I know. Well, you've got a couple years to worry about that. No, you don't. Yeah, he was a rookie last year. Yeah, but typically for a late-round pick, though. So you don't have your fifth year. Oh, you don't have the fifth year. Right.

I'm not saying it's pressing. I'm just curious. Yeah, no. With a guy with his pedigree, but everyone thinks he sucks, what's his number? Especially for someone who's made no money. Well, the thought is that he might have you know,

they might have made the Super Bowl had he not got hurt last year. That was still such a weird game. You should go back and watch that sometime. Of course he's... Just to watch what it looks like when an NFL team doesn't have a quarterback.

Yeah. Saw the Broncos during COVID. And they had to play the, oh yeah, when they ran that receiver out there. Yeah.

They were just snapping the ball to C-Mac. That was great. That was great. Saints, right? I think it was Broncos Saints, yeah.

He's four and one if you count the one being the one he got, you know, hurt early in the game. Like he had four pass attempts and he was out of the game. So you might say in full games he's 4-0 in the playoffs. And then he's about to face Mahomes. And you kind of can't lose if you're playing Mahomes these days.

Yeah, if you get beat by Patrick Mahomes, you're just like, I don't know, that's just what happened. So, yeah, let's see his numbers from yesterday. One touchdown, one interception, 267 yards passing. You don't have to still pitch him. 48 yards rushing. I was just looking at that, and I was looking at the 1981 NFC Championship game,

The Catch, featuring Joe Montana, the hero at the end, of course. During that game, did he have 53 yards rush? No, he actually rushed for a long of two. He had negative five yards. And before The Catch. What is he doing? He had thrown for three interceptions in that game. Wow. And Purdy just No, I'm sure. That's fine though.

Will you vote on him to win next year too? Probably. Bet. Vote on him? Yeah. The AP just give Dan a i would say vote sorry uh anyway just having some fun with brock purdy and uh i guess it's not detroit would have been really cool yeah it would have obviously it would have been really cool baltimore in a way you're saying well what are you going to do it's my homes but also in another way you're saying like if you think the cowboys had everything

laid out for them oh yeah one seed home um all the staff i was listening to stuff leading up to this game because i was trying to figure out if I'm going to gamble on it, and everything was overwhelmingly in the favor of the Ravens. For sure. I believe they have 11 wins this year against teams over 500. Yeah, it's the complete polar opposite of Dallas. Right. Any stiff test they had, they passed with flying colors.

They just destroyed these teams, whoever came in. And it was going to be home, and it's their first championship game for Lamar. And just all that, I mean, it was just laid out. And the storybook, the storyline is there for him. You know, no other team wanted him in the offseason. BS, which is kind of BS. But, you know, the contract problems they had. Yeah, it was a collusion. They finally paid him.

He's got an MVP season. Yeah. This is going to be the perfect cap. Lamar is finally going to take the end. And instead, it is, yes, he is going to get the Dak treatment. He can't win the big one. And Dak, you will still be able to say, well, Dak is not a two-time MVP,

and he's never even gotten to the championship game. So that's why if you are a Dak fan and you say Lamar isn't getting the same heat that Dak gets, well, there you go. Because Dak's probably going to make more than Lamar in his next contract. You know, we brought it up last week with Josh Allen, but it's just Brady and Manning and maybe even to some extent Ben Roethlisberger. Like, you're great. If the cards fell differently, you'd probably be in the Super Bowl

every three years, but you just ran into the baddest MF-er of all time. You just happen to be in the same conference or division as Patrick Mahomes. Whereas, again, if you put either one of those guys in the NFC, if you put Josh Allen in the NFC, or you put Lamar Jackson in the NFC, they would be playing a different sort of game. They would be routinely in the championship game or Super Bowl. But you just have a great coach, and in my opinion, the greatest football player ever,

in front of you. Man, Burrow, Mahomes, Jackson, Herbert, Allen. Allen. They're all in the same conference. Dude, you didn't even mention Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence would be the third best quarterback in the NFC right now. Yeah. Especially with a decent supporting cast.

Whereas Dak just kind of wakes up and is the second best quarterback or best quarterback in the NFC. His only challenger was Wentz for a couple years for best quarterback in the division. It hurts. Guys, want to move on to non-sports? Yes.

I got some Dan Campbell for later in the week. Let's do it tomorrow. move on to non-sports? Yes. Yeah, I'd like to... I got some Dan Campbell for later in the week. Okay. Let's do it tomorrow. Okay. Speaking of France... Were we? Earlier. I mean, we talked about it

a lot on the show today. On the air? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't remember. Climate activist this weekend threw some soup on the Mona Lisa.

Which, as a fan of soup, that's kind of the part I'm more upset about. It sounds funny, though. It does sound funny. Yeah. And you're not trying to ruin the Mona Lisa. I mean, it's encased in glass. Yeah. And you're not trying to ruin the Mona Lisa. I mean, it's encased in glass. Yeah, but just throwing soup. How do you get soup into there?

Is it the Louvre? It is. Okay. Look at that. Yeah, his daughter's over there. Yeah, she said she wanted to go to the Louvre. Have you talked to her since yesterday? No.

I just didn't know if she maybe acquired some soup. I actually tried this morning, but I'll talk to her tomorrow morning. Why? Why was this done? Yeah, I mean, you know how this is. It's the same thing as those broads that were chaining themselves to the stanchions at NBA games. I know, but they were at least fighting the Timberwolves guy. Because he had burned all those chickens.

Yeah, they were like animal activists. I really don't know. I read a couple stories about this. Yeah. Maybe it's like the Rangers where they let you take in a one-gallon bag. We need to do that. I still think we need to do that. Spaghetti?

Spaghetti. Chili. Chili. Whatever. You could do some vegan soup or something. Whatever it is that you eat over there. Bag of steak. Why shot at me? I'm just sitting here.

Enjoying everything. Let's do it this year. We should. You wouldn't dare. Don't test me. One of the women was heard yelling, what is more important, art or healthy, sustainable food? Which does not feel like a binary option to me.

This is confusing. It's just a grab attention. You have a shirt on that says, like, Dan's thinking about which is more important. You have a shirt on that says the name of your organization. You hope people go to the website. Et cetera.

I wonder how that works. If they do see an uptick. And could we get some downloads if we threw soup on something? Not if we did, but if we got a hot. Yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt. Because I checked out the, was it the French Open? Yeah. I checked out that website a couple times.

Once that lady chained herself to the court. Yeah, she was much better looking than Glue Girl and Chain Lady. I mean, I offered to be shot in the balls with a pellet gun some 40 minutes ago. I would not say I'm a hot. I'm just trying to think of the hot we could get. Yeah. We know.

We could definitely find one. Anyways, I want to spend a decent amount of time here on this Vince McMahon story. Okay, good. Which I know doesn't really do anything to move the needle for you, Dan.

Have you heard anything about this? I think I heard he resigned as the leader, and there's some kind of harassment, something. Okay. Sex something. Sex something, yeah. There is a woman who has, this is from the Wall Street Journal,

filed a lawsuit against him and the company, and the details are shocking. I'll read you a little bit of an excerpt. When they met. McMahon allegedly made promises of a job at WWE. And showered Grant with gifts. During meetings that were supposed to be about the job. He greeted her in his underwear.

And repeatedly asked for hugs. Now I've seen the hug thing. But I've never seen. Greeted in my underwear. Then the suit said he pressured her into sexual activities in return for employment and warned her to stay quiet about their interactions. Ledgett McMahon and another WWE executive locked her in an office at the organization's headquarters and took turns sexually assaulting her while other staffs were working. When is this? About three years ago.

Oh, three. Yeah. This is not like an antique rape. I was thinking pre-Me Too and then Too. As Dave Chappelle would say. Yeah, she got the gumption once she saw everybody else doing it. You've got to think that's kind of ballsy to do it after the whole Me Too thing kind of exploded. Do you think that's blown over? Dude, but imagine this, though.

Let's get back to the Ravens. We talk about, we talk about, like, how teed up sports are. Football's probably, like, the highest, most teed up, and some of the crazy stuff the guys there think they can get away with. There's literally nothing more teed up than being the head of wrestling. Yeah. But it's like, isn't he like 70? Yeah.

Don't you think your T is waning? It's definitely waning, but he's on a lot of steroids. The pellet? You don't even know what that means? Yeah, I kind of do. The suit also includes screenshots of explicit text messages

that McMahon allegedly sent to Grant. A May 2020 message said, I'm the do. The suit also includes screenshots of explicit text messages that McMahon allegedly sent to Grant. A May 2020 message said, I'm the only one who owns you and controls who I want to fuck you. So it wasn't just that he was assaulting her. He was sort of like a... Pimping her out? Big pimping. Yeah.

It's crazy. So it's real enough that... That he had to quit. Yeah. He's not like, I'm denying these allegations. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it. No, it doesn't seem like it. He's like, oh, damn.

Yeah, and it is crazy. Like, I know you and I have talked about this, the fact that you, like, completely missed, you dodged the bullet of wrestling. I just don't understand how... It's just soap operas. Some people that I really used to respect, like you. You're a jerk.

I was a kid. Okay. Yeah. But it was, at no point was I like, oh, this is real. It was more just like, this is exciting. You know? And if you tell me there's hot girls in there, that's important. It was so sexed up.

Yeah. It was so sexed up. And there's hot guys, too. Hot guys, too. Yeah. A lot of hot of hot guys too a little dusting of racism right uh at times a little more of a salt bay okay yeah more more than a dusting the morning news has an article this morning you're not gonna read anything else from the lawsuit what do you want to hear you want to hear about the dildos? Yeah. And the other thing.

That he pooped on people's heads. That's significant. On their head? Yeah. One disturbing encounter in the lawsuit occurred in May 2020 when McMahon defecated on Miss Grant during a threesome and then commanded

her to continue pleasuring his friend with feces in her hair and running down her back. Now, if I'm the friend, I'm losing my... Yeah, you might be. The blood is not flowing there anymore. Like, ooh, I'm not sure. Ugh, smells. Maybe it's a stall tactic.

Ah, he was happening too quick. It's like thinking about baseball. So Vince did him a favor. I'm going... Maybe it's a stall tactic. Ah, he was happening too quick. It's like thinking about baseball. So Vince did him a favor. I'm going to help you out here. Let me poop on her head. Dang it. Just of all the things I'm thinking that the three of us could do if we ever got a lady.

That's the bottom of the list as it were. I don't think poop should be involved with sex And that's why we do that That right there No I don't No How does this happen

And again Like workout That is not like a fun poop Like that guy's eating Rib eye every meal Smells like raw eggs Again, like workout. Does she know it's coming? Roy Bro, that is not like a fun poop. Like that guy's eating ribeye every meal. Smells like raw eggs. Yeah. That is not a fun poop.

There is no fun poop. No. But that's a bad poop. Yeah. You've heard of this before though, right? I mean, I've heard of the hot Carl, for sure. Yeah, it's real. And, of course, the chili dog.

Okay, bud. She's settled down. Look that up. I'm good. Yeah. You guys already know what it is? Yeah. Yeah.

All right. But I don't think it exists. It does. It exists in a lawsuit filed against the CEO of one of the largest sports entertainment companies in the world. See, he's got a private jet, right? There's no doubt. That's the thing. That's what leads to the pedophilia and the weird stuff is just too much money. Yeah.

If you have too much money, too much power, then you could just do anything and you're just bored with... Missionary. All right, I could have... Well, forget missionary. I'm just saying, now I can have 10 models that will do whatever I want.

I'll poop on all of them. At the time. But yeah, now though, after being with them enough times, you're like, gosh. Yeah. What if I threw in some poop? Let's just see if that would,

you know... Or, my gosh, she's... Well, some poop? Let's just see if that would, you know. Or, my gosh, she's 30 years younger. I know, but it's still legal, and that's bothering me. Yeah. You know, so let's make it somebody a little younger even. Yeah. And that's the thing. That's why there should be a better.

Now I agree with Brunig that there should be better wealth distribution. Yeah. Because of this. Poop and pedophilia. Yeah. Yeah. That would save us. There wouldn't be an Epstein Island.

That's true. If there wasn't that much money. It would help, yeah. And then the other note was just that he apparently... I mean, the guy's obviously like a sex addict, sex addict. And he would name toys based on whether they were like white or black, based on like wrestlers who were white or black. So he'd have like, you know, a Booker T dildo and then like a... Is that person black?

Triple H. dildo, and then like a... Is that person black? Triple H. In your mind, did you think there was a white wrestler named Booker T? No. Just trying to help the audience. That's not as explosive as the poop, but... Yeah, there's a lot going on here.

I just thought Dan might want to know that part of the story. You're probably right. Yeah, I didn't really want to talk about it. Forget about Dan. The people. The people wanted to. I'm just disgusted. That's who we do this for.

I'm disgusted by talk of poop. I hate it. I don't like changing diapers. I do it, but I don't like it. I never minded that with my kid. Obviously, never tried it with a different kid. Not the one you took to the museum? Not the one I'm babysitting tonight.

But yeah, no. I mean, I don't like hate it, but I don't, like people, I never like thought farts were funny. Yeah, I'm not on board with my own poop either. I don't want to be a part of it at all. No. However, I was thinking about this actually the other day. I do eat fiber-based cereal. That's right.

And broccoli. Lots of broccoli. Nature's colon cleanser. My buddy once pointed out to me that humans are the only species that looks at all of their poop. I don't look at my poop. Yeah, you do. No, I don't. Yeah, you do.

You should. Why? You definitely do. I don't. I'm flushing as it's coming out. You definitely do. It tells you a lot about your health. Like a dog?

I will tomorrow, but I don't. A dog just moves forward. I'm telling you I don't. The dog does not turn around and look at it. Yeah, it tries to cover it up. Yeah, he's kicking grass and dust and dirt up on it. Okay, you guys are, well, maybe I'm the weird one. I'm telling you,

99% of people. I multi-flush. I know you do because you once left it downstairs. That is 100% not true, and I want to be clear. She blamed me, and I just took it. Last week, whenever I duced down there, I flushed four times, and there was nothing even in there.

Okay. A waste of water. I don't care. I can't deal with this. Well, I'm just saying, I got blamed, and she'll never know that it was really you. We'll do the other story tomorrow. There she is. Oh.

Don't sound so bummed. The Dumb Zone News. Like and subscribe. Bum, bum, bum, bum. All right. We'll end with this. And I'm sorry. The Dumb Zone presents Today in History.

For those that are used to or accustomed to us, like throwing out your birthday in the beginning of our show, sorry we saved it for now. But there's been a lot of stuff going on. All this poop and sports. Yeah. Dolos. So Jake will apologize for forwarding this to me over the weekend because this came in on Friday.

Today is my 40th birthday. This is from Chase Bailey. Yeah, I felt bad about that, but we were at Wired Wills. It came in at like 1130. Yeah. We were already rocking and rolling. It's a new age.

I don't even know what that means. The timing. The timing on were already rocking and rolling. It's a new age. I don't even know what that means. The timing. The timing on when we're doing stuff and being able to get the email. Anyway,

Chase Bailey. He had a pretty NSFW email. He did. Love that guy. Hi, Dan. Let's see. He says lots of nice stuff about the show.

That's great. And now I'm trying to get... Anyway, he says then after that, I turned 21 today, and I want to share my birthday with my favorite show. And, oh, yeah, something about Hotmail. It's fast and groundbreaking. More Blake reading Hood County news.

Okay. And more Space.com. From Nathan Parker. You're in luck, Nathan. I got a story for you that's coming up this week. It's been months since I've done anything from Space.com. I don't need to hear that. Why not make it all the months forever?

Don't I pick and choose only the top quality stories from Space.com? Because every day there's new ones. That is news to me. Sorry, Nathan. Happy birthday to you. Today is my 43rd birthday. Tell Jake I'm sorry to hear about his grandfathers. I didn't know either of mine.

I see what you started. I guess that's worse than both of them. One died before I was born. The other was captured as a POW during the Korean War. Okay, nerd. Maybe you should have... After he was released, he went on to...

He went on Chinese state-run television denouncing the United States and was labeled by the U.S. government as a traitor to his country. He lived the rest of his life in China. Therefore, I never got to meet him. Okay, that's actually badass. I'm sorry about calling him a nerd. Love the show. More Blake.

Thanks, man. A lot of support today. From Cody Michaels That's fantastic and I would like to follow up on that story Do you think it's real? That's 100% what I would have done Like if your number comes up after You know

The Honeymooners And you have to go to NOM I'm looking for the first way out of there. And to be like, America sucks. Yeah. This is not necessary at all. Didn't we see a documentary where they were doing that in North Korea? Like defectors?

No, they weren't defectors. It was captured. Do you recall this? Sounds vaguely familiar, yeah. The last six months. they weren't defectors. It was captured. Do you recall this? Sounds vaguely familiar, yeah. The last six months. Hey, Bruce is missing. Oh, no.

Teresa's dog. Mm-hmm. Are we on Hood County news? Yeah, this is Hood County breaking news. He dug out of the fence. That's a great name for a dog. Thursday about 5.30. Mm. Said it's their little fur baby. So if you've seen little dog. Thursday about 5.30.

Said it's their little fur baby. So if you've seen little Bruce. Hope he's alright. It's a chilly weekend. I will tell you guys this. I am constantly freaked out about the cat. I've just never had a cat. And I'm like, there'll be like a whole day where I just don't see it.

What if that thing got out? Dude, that's the thing. The other day I was like it's chipped but he's too small to have a collar on right now. There'll be like a whole day where I don't see him. Chipped is cool. My dogs aren't chipped. I think it's just like a...

It's not GPS. You can't pull up find your phone? I wish you could. There's probably a way to do that. That's got to be the future. This is more just like it's registered or whatever, but it freaks me out. And my wife will be like, dude, it's a cat. You're not going to know where it is all the time. And then just like eight hours later, it'll just emerge from like a closet where I had looked.

They do find crazy places to sleep. It's really, really nerve-wracking. Anyways. Is anyone missing a black cow? In the Fall Creek area near Pecan Plantation in the Dollar General. Someone's cow got out? How would you know if you're missing one? Imagine if you own a cow, you own a bunch of cows.

Probably so, yeah, right? Do you do a head count every morning? Yeah, there's a cow down by the Dollar General. Do you brand it with the Dumb Zone logo? Let us brand your cow. A cool depi. That would be amazing. Is that animal cruelty, to brand an animal?

They do it anyways. Yeah. Again, I offered to get shot in the balls. Maybe we can get that done this week. Got a lot going on, dude. So it's Monday, January 29th when we're recording live to tape. On this day in 1989. Have you not already said that part?

No. Oh. I just started reading some birthdays. Okay. On this day in 1989, Chris Dudley of the Cavs set the record for most free throws missed in one trip to the foul line. He missed five consecutive free throws. I just remember when I was young being a Cavs fan,

I remember Chris Dudley couldn't make free throws. How did this occur? Fouled on a three with a technical and then? It said the Washington Bullets committed three lane violations. The dorkiest penalty in all of sports. On this day in 2007, Kentucky Derby winner Barbro was euthanized. Two days after the latest surgical procedure

was unable to help the Colt fully recover from injuries suffered during the Preakness states stakes the previous year and uh famous wedding on this date in 1984 linda carter who is known as wonder woman on the TV show married Robert Altman. She was 33. He was 58. Damn. Which she didn't need to do. No. She's Linda Carter. She's possibly

the most perfect woman I've ever seen. I would agree with that. Yeah. Did that marriage work out? I would... 25 year age difference. I have my doubts, yeah.

The answer is yes. They were married until he died in 2021. Wow. How about that? Good for them. I guess that's the positive. If you want your spouse to die before you, which I think we all do. Marry much older.

Yeah, marry somebody a lot older than you. Yeah. That's a 30-year marriage, though. Yeah, way to go go Robert Altman Yeah Must have been a good dude Today's birthday is not Subbies Well who knows

Maxie Kleber is 32 I wish he were better I wish he was available How about that? David LaFleur is 50, former Cowboy Wow Jose Abreu is 37 Is that 50% of the offense?

Was it? Was it David LaFleur? No, it was Mike Luckey David LaFleur was the tight end That Troy Aikman said wanted drafted the first round. Jose Abreu is 37? Yeah. See, people bring up RIP. Gavin Escobar for Romo.

But nobody brings up David LaFleur for Troy. I think Abreu didn't defect. That's why he got over here when he was old? Maybe. That also means that age might not be correct. Olympic gold medal diver Greg Louganis is 64. What a day for Dan. What a day for Dan.

You know his fun nickname, Blake? Greg Louganus? That's right. That's right. Because people would put their pee-pees in his B-hole. Romo also wanted Justin Hunter in that draft. He's not a scout. No.

Oprah is 70. After retiring from diving, Louganis began to compete in dog agility competitions. Dog? He has said that being around the dogs gave him a sense of security, company, and unconditional love.

So, like, he wasn't personally, like, racing other dogs, but he became a dog trainer. Heather Graham is 54. Oh my god. Roller Girl. Swingers. Roller Girl.

And then one of the Austin Powers movies. And then that's kind of like it, right? Oh no, Hangover. She's older than I thought. One of the Austin Powers movies. And then that's kind of like it, right? Oh, no. Hangover. She's older than I thought. Great point, Blake. I just thought I did. She looks great.

I would have thought 40s. Rachel Uchitel is 49. Hey, it's me, Tiger. It's Uchitel. Uchitel. Riff Raff is 42. Oh, my God. A hero of mine.

Real name? Get the music. I know this. Deep somewhere in the recesses of my brain I know this but I don't want to stop us now I can't remember it oh it's uh

Horst Simcoe I knew the Simcoe part damn it Lisa Emery is 72 who's that Darlene Snell

in Ozark show sucks uh show doesn't suck it's good for a little bit I do have some problems with it but Darlene Snell in Ozark. This show sucks. This show doesn't suck. It's good for a little bit. I do have some problems with it, but the most disturbing part of Ozark was Darlene, a 70-year-old, was sleeping with, like,

I can't remember his name. Was it Wyatt? Who was, like, 25. Why is that disturbing? It just didn't look good to me. But maybe, you know. Thanks for your judgment. That's your thing.

That's that guy's leather. And everybody needs a leather. Everybody's got one. Actor Terry Kinney is 70. That is Tim McManus on Oz. And then died on this day. Or excuse me. Yeah, died on this day. We have me, yeah, Died on This Day. We have Tom. Oh, that guy was great.

Yeah. I think that show was actually like super, super ahead of its time. Yes. I know that you and Bob used to fight about that because Bob hated it because they did a musical episode. Well, no. I didn't love that either. The big fight was about, and he probably has a point, that I would stick with something too long. Yeah.

So a show gets to sucking sometimes, and then I have to ride it out like, man, I've watched them all. I've got to keep watching it. Yeah, I don't do that. And the final season did have a lot of problems. Maybe Dexter might be a similar thing. Yeah, I was going to bring that up. Walking Dead. I hear people say that about that show all the time.

But the first two seasons of Oz, though. No, it's in one of those Sepinwall books as far as. Like revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. The revolution was televised. There you go. I believe it is.

And it's just about, you know, the early HBO days. And The Sopranos obviously is thought of as one of the great shows. But he's saying that Oz belongs in there. And I'm going to concur. Oz, what's our cop show? Well, I mean, I would say The Shield for sure, but I would even say The Corner. Like, I went back and watched that at your behest at one point. Just a miniseries, though.

Yeah, yeah, but still. So, died on this day, we have Tom Brookshire, who was Pat Summerall's play-by-play partner. And before, you know. The guy who poops. And Barbro, who died on this day at the age of three. And that was Today in History. And Vince McMahon poops on heads.

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