The Dumb Zone FREE - Episode 98: Unpacking the Defeat - Dallas Cowboys' Playoff Woes and What's Next

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

 In this episode, the team dives into the emotional aftermath of the Dallas Cowboys' recent playoff defeat against the Green Bay Packers. Akash Singh's comparison of the Cowboys' consistency... to the TV show "Suits" sets the tone for the discussion. Jake Kemp, Dan McDowell, and Blake Jones reflect on the game's highlights and lowlights, including the disheartening loss and its impact on fans and the team. They discuss the Cowboys' performance, coaching decisions, and the team's future. From personal reactions to technical analysis, this episode offers a comprehensive look at what went wrong and where the Cowboys go from here. Tune in for an in-depth and candid conversation about the ups and downs of being a Cowboys fan.  (00:00) - - Open (11:00) - - Cowboys embarrassed at home in Wild Card Round (01:37:15) - - News (01:51:00) - - Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, do you watch the show Suits? You know how the plot is basically the same and then it ends the same way every time? Yeah. That's the Cowboys from 1996 until 2024. What are we doing? All right, all right, all right. I never listen. I'm going to listen. I want to listen to the drums. Words of wisdom from Akash Singh yesterday. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:00:36 During our YouTube stream of Cowboys Packers, which did not go so well for those wishing the Dallas Cowboys would win or compete or show up. Yeah, or just give us. Is that you? Yep. Okay. Are you listening to NHL podcasts?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Again? Again? Is that you? Yep. Okay. Are you listening to NHL podcasts? Again? Is that how you've already moved on?
Starting point is 00:01:11 Yeah, no, I'm on to the Stanley Cup. Now I'm in pain. It's Monday. The day after. The Cowboys lose. My by heart hurts in the playoffs. An important date, Monday, January 15th, 2024. Some of the, what would you call them? Shackles? Restrictions?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Weights have been lifted off of your friends here? I thought you were going to say Martin Luther King Day. I'm focusing on us right now. Like we're allowed to do some things that we weren't doing before and now, but there's still some little road bumps for the next couple of weeks,
Starting point is 00:02:14 but then perhaps we'll be on the open highway. But also happy birthday to Martin Luther King Jr. Yes, that's why we chose this day. Jeez. To have certain restrictions lifted. It wasn't because our official last day with our previous employer was July 14th. It has nothing to do with the fact that today is then six months later. It's all because of Martin Luther King Jr., the king.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Guy loved puss. Oh. Hey, just let him have his day. All right? What's wrong with that on your day? Nothing. Think about it. It's his birthday.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's his birthday. There's very good possibility that on most of his birthdays he was enjoying some. There was something going on there yeah some quality more than one chip yeah that is like do you remember the first time you ever heard about that about what that like the cia or the fbi or whatever was spying on mlk and that like their whole thing was this guy loves the the ladies. It's like, oh. This guy. That's what you have on him?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah. He cheats on his wife? Okay. Yeah. Tell me there's more. Tell me that you have something else. Anyway, we did learn yesterday that doing streams are fun. It can be. We did learn yesterday that doing streams are fun.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It can be. I know you might have been going through, really loving the people who have put together Jake memes. Yeah. We're all Jake. Yeah. The montage of photos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You've got your head in your hand You've got Your Headphones being thrown to the floor You weren't Really Under the You weren't professional broadcaster You were You were a fan You were more a fan
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's playoffs baby That's my favorite part That's very That's genuine Jake That's not an act That he's not playing baby. That's my favorite part. That's genuine Jake. That's not an act. He's not playing anything up. That's Jake in his purest form. And Blake knows that because Blake's watched a number of games with me,
Starting point is 00:04:34 both live and on television, where there was no stream. Nothing of the sort. And in fact, it was just a regular season basketball game. One of 82. So as you move around, we're going to hear... Oh, is that what it is? What a beating. Can you not hear that, Blake?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Because we're having some weird technical difficulties here today. I could there, but not before the show. It's unemployed. It's not me. Well, Jake just threw, yeah, now he threw that cord like he threw his headset last night. We got a lot of problems here in the den. It's a very, very cold day. What are we looking at right now?
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm hearing something now. I'm not. Are we looking at like 15-ish? Yeah Currently? Current temp? Yeah Not a lot of precip But there was a dusting of precip
Starting point is 00:05:33 And probably just enough to make the roads a little bit dangerous You drove over here though I did Because you only live 10 minutes away And I don't think this is letting up for The next 24 hours like they're saying tonight's going to be really bad too just the incredible cold or is there going to be something dropped i think we might have a little bit more precip tonight blake what do you see about that
Starting point is 00:05:56 i thought it was over which okay yeah you're right it's over on precip my wife tonight it will get down to 15 Okay We're going to do a fire Is that going to help you? We did a fire We got a fire going right now Look at him scoreboarding us all Yeah last night sucked
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yesterday sucked How was the roads though? Not too bad Blake is in Wiley We are not Yeah, last night sucked. Yesterday sucked. How was the roads, though? Not too bad. Okay. Not too bad. Blake is in Wiley. We are not.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. And it's, I took Brooks outside this morning, and it's like real snow. Like, it's not this ice-sleep mix. I mean, it's pure snow. Could you make a snowman? We were throwing some snowballs, but I don't know if there's enough to make a snowman. Okay, it looks a little powdery. I didn't know that it would stick, but again, I don't have... Yes, back in the day, I would have been outside in that, right there in it, with the girls, making a snowman.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Because you've got to strike while the iron's cold when it's like this. For sure. Because you won't get many. Yeah, you might not get another snow at all. You might get a bunch. You might be snowed in. How's the grid, or will we address that in today's news? We will address that and irk it.
Starting point is 00:07:21 But so far, they are calling for conservation, but it does not look like we are going to be powerless thus far. We'd like to thank everybody for doing the stream. All those who came out here. I just lost the list of people who were here,
Starting point is 00:07:38 but they were all great. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was great. Well, the company was good. Yeah, it was great. Well. The company was good. Yeah, just all the people are great. Just a lot of different ideas. I'm very excited to think about the future with our situation.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Let's just separate ourselves from the Cowboys if we can. But I feel like we hit upon something. That's a lot of fun. We're in a better place than the Dallas Cowboys right now. We at least have hope. I don't know what we're going to do because it seemed like we had everything perfect, and now we clearly don't.
Starting point is 00:08:20 But nothing about us has seemed like it's been perfect. So now we have only room to improve. We're not close to being an MVP, but we have visions of possibly being that someday. But I just thought, do we do a stream with a regular stream team every week? Because I kind of think if we did, we might just have to lock up caitlin do a long-term deal yeah caitlin's in the mix for sure but uh just the whole thing the whole thing
Starting point is 00:08:51 uh i kind of like viewing i kind of like if we have a studio of our own which is our it's on our uh wish list it's on our our New Year's resolutions. I suppose. But I think you have said this in the past. I think the Cowboy Game stream is great here. I think this is the home for it. It's a good feel. I agree.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And the reason I like having Caitlin here is because I think she's the only other person who is as affected as I am. Yeah. Which is highly affected. You know? Yeah, no, it's very fun. I love that everyone gets to watch my misery and thinks that's super funny.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Wait, did you Uber home? No, I ended up not. I only had like two beers and one drink over four and a half hours, so no. All right. It was all good. You didn't look like you were in shape to drive, but maybe it was just the inner demeanor. Kind of just a sad, slow drive home. Take the side roads.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Drive home in silence. Oh, no. There's no doubt. Silence. Yeah. You didn't get Jameson to send you a sad piano bed? I probably should have. That sucked, man. It sucked. I literally walked right to my bed and just
Starting point is 00:10:23 put the covers over myself. And then got up and wrote a column this morning. Okay, what time did you get up? 4.30. So you didn't go home and watch any football? Watch it this morning. Yeah. I didn't want to watch any more football.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah. I just was, you know. I didn't want to watch any more football I just was you know like when we were wrapping up when everybody else had left and it was just you and me and Blake in the kitchen and I thought you were waiting for an Uber
Starting point is 00:10:54 at that time because you were kind of just standing there solemn just looking at your shoes just our talk then. It was just stunned disbelief. Just of all the – it's the analogy, I suppose, with the Mavs last year when they made the Kyrie trade at the deadline.
Starting point is 00:11:18 There were a lot of different possibilities that we thought could, you know, come out of that that one little moment i don't think we even had in the mix at all missing the playoffs totally miss the plan miss the play-in yeah miss every like it was just either you know who know but i mean they're a playoff team at least and then they don't even make it at all. At least you kind of got to see that play out over a period of time when it became a little more obvious. So maybe the feeling wasn't like this because it just slapped you in the face when you're in the second quarter and you're saying,
Starting point is 00:11:58 wait, there were many scenarios you had come up with. A Green Bay blowout was not one of them. No, it was far beyond the bell curve. What, like a 2% to 3% chance? If you had put all the possible outcomes in a bucket, I believe Green Bay being up at 1.27-0 would have been a 2% to 3% chance. Completely illogical. It just didn't – nothing really added up.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Even when – you know, and a lot of people were saying, hey, look at Jordan Love. You know, his last, whatever, six to eight games have been very similar to Dak's stats. But I don't know. I guess I didn't see a lot of Jordan Love in the second half of the season, but I did in the first half as I'm watching my fantasy team, Blake. So I'm trying to kind of follow and see how he's looking.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And nothing about him, I don't know. And, man, in that game, he seemed like the veteran who was on a $40 million a year contract and just making nice plays and good decisions. Yep. So Dak is looking like the guy in a first year of a starting job where it's a third and five and you're in field goal range and he takes a sack like the you know kind of like we said the one thing that couldn't happen yesterday did that's the one thing that can't happen on those plays and sometimes you would say ah but look how steel got run over or look how so and so did
Starting point is 00:13:48 there was no getting out of that sack well i'm talking about dac rolling right out of the pocket pump faking looking downfield seeing the guy in front of him and then taking the sack. Yep. That's kind of inexcusable. Especially because when we saw the alternate angle behind the play, all of his receivers were to the left. Like, there was nothing he could have done there. Yeah, and then they took a delay a game, which was obviously intentional, and punted the ball away. That's just, it's inexcusable.
Starting point is 00:14:26 But I thought the, I guess here's the main thing. I don't think anything went well yesterday from offense, defense, coaching. Like how many times did they throw the ball on first down? It's incomplete. Now we're going to run it on second down. Now we're going to set it on second down. Now we're going to set ourselves up for third and six. If you're lucky, third and six.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, if you're lucky. Third and eight. And they've done this so many times over the last handful of years where they just put Dak in that situation and not to alibi for him at all, but it just, the play calling, the sequencing of the play calling, I thought was gross. I thought the composition of their defense got exposed, as we talked about a couple of weeks
Starting point is 00:15:11 ago. They're small. They're small. So if a team actually decides and has a good scheme to just run the piss out of the ball, they can. But this didn't feel like Buffalo, where Buffalo, what, only threw 10 passes and they just really just dominated down the field. They just married their run and their play action so well that I don't think the Cowboys really ever knew what was coming. I mean, I would agree with you, but they also, on that opening drive, whatever it was, like an eight-minute drive to open the game, they were running the ball pretty effectively and at will. And there was not a whole lot Dallas' defense could do about it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 No, and I mean, that's what you want, right? Is run and play action to marry off of each other. But it just, there was never a third and long where, okay, here's where the Cowboys pin their ears back. No. We got them in second and long. They were just always ahead of the chains. Yeah, and I think they were ahead of the chains because they can, Dallas can be run on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:15 What do you think is the mental aspect when Green Bay in Dallas wins the toss and elects in Dallas, wins the toss, and elects to receive. And then has that drive where they march right down the field. Yeah, it's disrespect. That's for sure. Because the fact that they elect to receive. Yeah. And I know that's a thing the Cowboys are sporadic on.
Starting point is 00:16:45 They might do that occasionally too, and they'll do that to try to set the tone and kind of show, look, you're going to have to stop us today. But then when they do that to your team at home, it's like, whoa, wait, that can't happen. That's not how this works. Yeah, you have the vaunted defense, and this team's like, I'd like to take it to you right now and see what you can do about this.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah, in theory, that's, yeah, you have the, in fact, for a while we were saying this team is, that's their identity, is their defense, and they're going to be as good as their defense, and I guess they were. McCarthy said that. Yeah. Very early in the year. He were. McCarthy said that. Yeah. Very early in the year.
Starting point is 00:17:25 He actually morphed into that. Yeah. And then LeFleur's like, let's see it. But then their offense, you know, were world beaters as well. They were great this year. Got rid of that Kellen Moore. We know how he always folds in the playoffs. And then your offense is down 27 to nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. That's the thing. Yeah, all pros. Pro bowlers. And that's the thing that overall, I guess... I don't know. Well, I think they were deserving of the All-Pros.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah, but... They had wonderful years. Don't you just have this feeling about the Cowboys that they sit around basking in the glory of all their recent accolades? They're concerned with which media members are not giving the proper amount of respect to which teammates.
Starting point is 00:18:26 They're wanting to make sure that you know that I'm the best in the game. That's the way I view it now. Get paid. They want you to know we're about to get paid. I'm going to get paid. He got paid. He's going to get paid again. Can't wait to get paid.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Because we've done everything that we need to do. Sure, they want to win in the playoffs, but is that their main focus? They're building their brand. You know, everybody's got their brand. Everybody's got their social following. Everybody's, you know, making sure that, make sure that you shout out all those haters all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Make sure you're very well aware of what Screamin' A. Smith is saying every day. Make sure you, you know, whoever the—they all live on— all these talking head shows live on Dallas Cowboy talk. Or I'm going to rank Dak 14th of all quarterbacks. That's one thing that you want to get the fan base riled up. Does the team need to be paying attention to that all the time? And that's what this team does. They do. And then they've answered their critics.
Starting point is 00:19:44 They've answered them throughout the season see cd lamb all pro wide receiver yeah and you know there's something poetic about the fact that these three years have ended at the hands of the 49ers and the packers because those just feel like very you know as far as the nfc goes just the come-to-work blue-collar-y teams that just show up and punch you in the mouth. Even though the 49ers have a lot of big-name, high-priced talent. Sure, but, I mean, think about it. Like, one of the first things people say about, like, Debo Samuel
Starting point is 00:20:20 is that guy will block. And I'm not saying CD doesn't, but I'm saying, like, they're known as, like, we just come to work type team. The Packers are the effing Packers. So the fact that those are the two teams that they've lost to over the past few years and really been bullied in all three games feels like it says a lot. It feels like it says a lot. So how do you convince someone?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Like what? Blake was trying to get you to record a message for your future self during the game. Yeah, I was having no part of that. And you wouldn't do that, and you should have. Sorry. wouldn't do that and you should have sorry but next year yeah what would they have to be to make you say because this was the year this it was all different right they had got rid of zeke they were focused they had got rid of a lot of excuses they i mean this is a totally they're all healthy tyron was healthy Pretty healthy all year long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And certainly healthy heading into the playoffs. And then things fall right for you, right? Five or six weeks ago, it was, oh, you know, Philly will be the one seed and at the worst, the two seed. Well, then Philly goes in a tailspin. You win a couple games you didn't think you might have won. All of a sudden, you have the number two seed. Now, you're 8-0 at home.
Starting point is 00:21:50 You were 8-0 last year. This is a, or whatever, 16 wins in a row at home. Perfectly set up. Yeah. You won't have to face San Francisco until the NFC Championship game. have to face San Francisco until the NFC Championship game. And is that where this team's head kind of was? As things turned, as they proved the media wrong and the haters and all that loud noise that's out there that we pay attention to all the time, and it's so loud, but we've proved them wrong because now we don't have to lose until we go to San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like is that kind of already in their head? We're at home. I mean, we went at home. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I mean, again, as I was standing in your kitchen last night crestfallen, the thing that just stuck out to me was even though he had a great year,
Starting point is 00:22:49 their quarterback is just kind of a guy. Like he's pretty good, but he's not great. And he improved this year, but is he ever going to be like a guy that you're like, I definitely think we have the best quarterback in this game, is he ever going to be like a guy that you're like, I definitely think we have the best quarterback in this game, and he's going to take this over? I would have thought that yesterday. I don't know, though. I mean, even, you know, I wrote the column that I was stunned that he improved as much as he did this year in his age 30 season, year eight.
Starting point is 00:23:24 as much as he did this year in his age 30 season, year eight. But, I mean, are you really ever going to feel like this is the guy that's not going to throw pick sixes, that's not going to turn the ball over, that can make a play outside of the structure of the offense? He's really good. But I need to check myself and come back to the idea of, is he one of the seven or eight best quarterbacks in the league? Numbers are great, but I mean, I've never seen like Patrick Mahomes do what he did yesterday. And not under tremendous duress.
Starting point is 00:24:00 It wasn't like he was... No, I mean, it was the pressures were 10 to 16, 16 for Green Bay, 10 for Dallas, but that's a normal amount. And it was on 60 dropbacks, so the rate was probably even lower for Dak than it was for Jordan Love. So, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. It's almost like everything has to be perfect for him to succeed.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And I hate to say that because I love the guy and I think he's really good. But I don't think he's going out there and like dueling you back into a game if you end up down, right? Like we talked about last week with the Chiefs. Like how many times have you seen the Chiefs be down and you're like, Mahomes is probably going to pull them back into this. You're more surprised if they don't. I'm never confident that Prescott's going to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Was it last year in the Super Bowl? They were down at half and Mahomes' ankle was hurt again. And you thought, okay, yeah, this is it. And then sure enough. And I hate to compare him to hold him up against maybe the greatest quarterback of all time, but I don't know. I mean, I think he's kind of just what he is.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Which might, if everything breaks right, be enough. But if a couple things get haywire, you're up the creek. But the game last night, like Jared Goff wasn't anything spectacular, but they were able to win a playoff game. You know, I don't know. He doesn't have to be Superman. No.
Starting point is 00:25:33 The quarterback doesn't have to be Superman for a team to win a playoff game. No. It's more than just him. Yeah, but, I mean, you can't have a hand in things going poorly. You can't be throwing pick six. I mean, Jared Goff didn't throw any interceptions. You know, he took care of the ball. Dak threw two.
Starting point is 00:25:51 One of them went 60-plus yards the other way. Yeah. Yeah, you look at his numbers in the end, like if you're looking at this 20 years from now and trying to figure out what happened, you might say, hmm, Dak, I don't know, 400 yards passing, three touchdowns, two picks. Same thing with C.D.'s stats. I don't know if it was Dak.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah, C.D. ended up with over 100 yards. Almost all in garbage time. But when they were down 27-0, Dak had 61 yards passing, two interceptions. One was a pick six. One was in the red zone or on the Green Bay red zone. So when they got the pick, they were able to score pretty quickly after that. Ends up with 87 yards after the first half. Talked about taking the sacks, a couple of them at
Starting point is 00:26:46 least, on third down that he should not have taken. One was pretty egregious. Locking in on C.D. Lamb, there probably is a difference between making sure you utilize your biggest offensive weapon and forcing the ball to him. Yeah. Which he certainly did, that one interception for sure. And you're sitting here looking at the necessity of a contract extension because of his brilliant agent and your seeming mishandling of the contractual situation with him, you know, before he was up for a new contract.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah, and I know Blake likes to bring this up quite a bit, but our friend Joel Corey from CBS said it to us a year ago that it doesn't really matter what Dak does. He has them completely over a barrel. The way their cap is structured and the way that his contract is structured, there's just nothing they can do. You can't trade him. Well, you always say you can't trade somebody.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Here in the NFL, it seems like guys can be traded, and I guess if— They tend to not be traded with a number like that, though. If Russell Wilson can be cut. I mean, somehow Aaron Rodgers was moved. Yeah. And he was on the books for like a $50 million cap hit. And I don't, you know, how's that worked out? For Green Bay?
Starting point is 00:28:33 They moved Aaron Rodgers and it worked out great. Well, I'm saying like if you're – But again, they planned. Yeah, I mean they had a first-round pick on the bench for three years. Yeah. I'm just saying like if you're a team that wants to move your quarterback and start over, that is highly uncertain. Well, and that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Same thing with the coach. That's the problem you're in right now. Well, the coach, less so. But the problem you're in with the quarterback, you know, there's lots of coaches I can go get one that can lead this team. Would you agree with that? Certainly an easier role to fill than franchise quarterback. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:14 For sure. But then what do you do when your franchise quarterback is the tweener that you think everything has to be perfect around him? Do you scrap him and start over? Because if you do, yes, that might... If things aren't perfect around him enough to advance,
Starting point is 00:29:34 how are things going to be perfect around question mark? Yeah. I mean, you don't go out and get cousins or somebody like that at the end of their career. You might as well just – yeah, Dak's going to be the quarterback. Yeah, and he's going to be a quarterback on a new contract.
Starting point is 00:29:56 So I guess the conversation becomes – I mean, I don't know. I feel like multiple times over the past couple of weeks you've been like, what happens if they get run in the first round? You're like, that's what it would take to get fired. Literally, the only thing that we all thought it would take for him to get fired happened. Right. And now we're like, oh, my gosh. There's no way. Are they actually going to do it?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. It is the only thing. There was no other scenario. It wasn't a hard-fought, good, you know, last-second something. It was getting embarrassed. And I think down 27-0 in the second quarter, you're embarrassed. I would agree. God, I want to know what's going through Jerry's head today.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Do you want to listen to some of it? Sure. Yeah, I'll play you a little bit. Or can I? I don't know what our scene is here. Are you plugged in? No, I'm not. Because every time I plug...
Starting point is 00:31:01 We'll save it. We'll do it after the break. Okay. We'll figure it out. But, I mean... because every time I plug – we'll save it. We'll do it after the break. Okay. We'll figure it out. But, I mean, you know, obviously he's doing the, like, I'm not going to address this right now. But, I mean, last week when asked about it, he said,
Starting point is 00:31:15 we'll take it game by game. That wasn't exactly, like, the vote of confidence that I thought McCarthy was going to get. Well, then the question would be, too, all right, let's say he did get rid of mccarthy we've always thought throughout the year it was well you would just slide dan quinn over dan quinn who just got 48 hung on him that's the funniest part about yesterday is that all the narratives crashed together at once and then you know obviously there is the looming specter of the greatest NFL coach of all time. Of course.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Nice backdrop. That person isn't usually free. And somehow these two points in time have actually connected. Now, why is he going to choose here? Number one He would choose here because he's chasing Shula's record Pretty good chance And he can get that here
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah Almost without a doubt But to get that here He's going to have to step back from his usual posture Because this is Jerry Jones in the Jerry Jones Show. And Jerry Jones, although feeling desperate and in a weird, you know, very sad situation for himself where he thought he would be,
Starting point is 00:32:42 he's not feeling the same way he was when it was the third consecutive 5 and 11 season where he's like i have to kind of let someone else do some stuff because yeah you know i have to kind of swallow some like he's he's kind of feeling like look my part of this is what's building these 12 and fives. My part, I'm in charge. I'm the GM, which certainly is just a title for Jerry. But, you know, Will McClay, they just announced this week he's going to be back. That's kind of the real GM.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah. But all the parts together are the real GM. And Jerry is, you know, some big-time GM moves. But he'll always be called the GM. And I'm sure they're compensating Will McClay just like he's an actual GM. Or more. Or more. And Will McClay doesn't have to move, and his kids are in school here,
Starting point is 00:33:35 and it's a great scene for Will McClay. And he's proven to be great. The whole scouting department, that's proven to be awesome. This is a very talented football team. So you got to know he's thinking, why would I change this part of the scene? I just need to change this little part here, the guy who's the coach. Yeah, but – And would Belichick accept that little role?
Starting point is 00:34:03 Man, I don't know. I mean, I never thought Parcells would come here either, and you brought that up last week of maybe Belichick is like, I don't want to just walk too much in the Parcells' footsteps. But it almost seems like in your 60s or 70s going to coach the Cowboys is like moving to Florida. It's just like, all right, well, it's going to be nice. There's not really much substance here, but I'm kind of retiring.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It'll be football sunny. Yeah. I can just live out my days taking this guy's money and sort of just walking about. Maybe. I don't know. Walking about. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I don't know. You could see why Jerry would want it because think of the marketing possibilities around breaking Shula's record at Jerry World. He'd probably tell him to tank a game to make sure he could win at home next week. That's the Netflix doc episode two episode two season two actually yeah season one jimmy ring of honor season two belichick shula yeah i don't know because uh it doesn't seem like and i thought this whenever they moved on from jason garrett it doesn't seem like uh jerry's in the mood for like a young hotshot. Like whenever people were talking about like Lincoln Riley or, you know, like Jerry would have never hired Mike McDaniel, for example.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Like the point on the quote-unquote win curve where the Cowboys are with their roster and where Jerry is with, frankly, his life, I just don't think that they're going to go after somebody who's unproven. That's why McCarthy was almost like a perfect fit, even if he had his warts. It was that, hey, this guy's won before. He kind of knows how this goes. But once you've exercised that option, I don't know where you go from there. you've exercised that option, I don't know where you go from there. I mean, maybe Dan Quinn, yes, he's been in a Super Bowl. McCarthy and Dan Quinn's coaching records are not that dissimilar. But outside of that, I mean, what else would you do? He's not hiring Sark, you know, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You know, if you look around the league with NFL coordinators that are available, I know that there's a handful of them that are going to get head coaching opportunities that are young, but I just don't feel like that's Jerry's wave at all. Harbaugh? Maybe, but why? I mean, I feel like he falls into the same thing as belichick almost of why would you want this job but that's not a horrible idea yeah harbaugh probably falls into the i want to run things yeah like somebody's going to say yeah
Starting point is 00:36:56 like the chargers or somebody are going to say harbaugh's a very difficult person to work with i don't know how much you've read about his exit from the 49ers, but it was not pretty. Like, everyone hated him. He also seems kind of like a builder. Yeah. Although I'm sure he would like a franchise quarterback already in place, all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, but he definitely wants to build his way. And again, this is, again, like you said, this was it was kind of made for McCarthy. McCarthy was used to having zero say as far as personnel, all that kind of stuff in Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:37:43 So he wasn't used to the spectacle that is the Cowboys, but he was used to being the coach. Yeah. And that's what he's had to be here. I don't know. I mean, I think the odds are probably that they bring him back. And I'm not even sure that's the wrong decision.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And they might end up bringing him back and i'm not even sure that's the wrong decision but if well and they might end up bringing him back because like well what else are we going to do same thing with the quarterback that's that's your that's your mindset with dax well what else are we going to do yeah and i think oftentimes that's not a good reason to do something. But I suppose you could also argue that making a change for change's sake is also not a good reason. Sure. Yeah, I don't— Has Garrett been snatched up by anyone? No, Alabama has not hired.
Starting point is 00:38:45 They went in a different direction. I just hope, and I know we're going to play a little bit of audio and stuff, but I want the two of you as my friends to know, and I feel like doing the stream helps this. This shit hurts me. I woke up in a bad mood. I drove home in a bad mood., I woke up in a bad mood. I drove home in a bad mood. I went to bed in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:39:09 The first thing I thought about when I got up today, like, I know we joke about it a lot, but I'm still, like, a huge Cowboys fan. And it, like, legitimately hurts me that this went the way that it did. I'm an old man at this point. I don't have a lot of things to be excited about. Yeah. And it really, really hurts me. People are watching the stream
Starting point is 00:39:34 and seeing you going through pain and talking about that you're just going to Uber and we were discussing how you were going to get home and why or will. we were discussing how you were going to get home and wire will you remember him of the of course the house fire he uh he texted me at least jake has a house to go home to you okay thank you for the perspective wire will that's true. Appreciate that. My friend L4, I'll call him, said, think of it if the Cowboys would have had a slinging around offense. Yep.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Could have given it to Rathbun. Our friend Scott Chandler, who used to play for the Buffalo Bills, said he's welcoming you to the Bills bandwagon if you want. The mafia? He said you're invited on the bandwagon. Okay. They're kind of like the Browns except we have Josh Allen, he says. That's one way to put it, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Had a buddy named Matt who was going to come be in the gallery to watch the game. He says, I had something come up. Can't be there next week for the stream. He said he'd be there next week. Ted Emmerich as well texted later. He said, good to go for next week. So Ted will be over here. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Hey, I'm down if you want to hang out next week. So Ted will be over here. Okay. Cool. Hey, I'm down if you want to hang out next Sunday. Well, it might be the Baker stream. I'm down. I need to get out of the house. But yeah, I mean, I think you don't really have this. Newberg had a funny text. Okay. I'm sure it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You were on it. It's just that he posted his tweet. He showed me his tweet. He says, so many things I'd like to say, but I'm going to head off to – I'm going to head off – I'm going to head off the stick to baseball nation and I won't. So he will not comment because he didn't want to hear from the stick to baseball nation.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah. And he showed me that this was liked by sports Delcas. Yep. I'm not surprised. But yeah, I mean Let's do something else I don't know we can play audio
Starting point is 00:42:08 Wait you don't want to talk cowboys I just want you to know that I'm in a bad mood It was pretty evident last night If you want to go to our YouTube page You can also just go Take a look and just jump ahead To see You don't have to jump too far ahead YouTube page, you can also just go take a look and just jump ahead to see.
Starting point is 00:42:25 It sucked. You don't have to jump too far ahead to see some real negativity, and we were trying to talk you out of that, but you were right. You don't get many cracks at this. You don't get many bites at the apple. Will you please record a message for your future self? No. Come on.
Starting point is 00:42:42 By tomorrow, I'm back in. I should have told you. I should have said this last week because when I saw this news, I said this is never going to happen. Okay. But how about the fact that Cowboy fans can't do a whiteout? No. You already know we're incapable of any form of unified fan behavior.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Because it's been so cool when I've been a part of that or seen them on TV. But I was at, I think I was at Miami, Oklahoma City when they did whiteouts. It's amazing to be a part of and look at. Yeah. You don't see that often with NFL teams, though. You see it a lot with college teams and for sure with the NBA. Is it just the amount of fans getting on board? I think probably.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Although, I mean, look, at Penn State, capacity-wise, it's AT&T and they pull it off fine. So I think it's size combined with give an F. And are you worried that you have to look cool? And that's a Dallas crowd for sure. It wasn't even close to a whiteout. No. You would never have known that they were even attempting it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 In fact, I was listening to some DAC audio from last week where he's like, can't wait. It's going to be great. See that sea of white. Blah, blah, blah. Cowboys are like, yeah, let's do this cool marketing thing. And the fans are like, eh, you know what? I got a blue jersey.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah. And that's the one I'm going to wear. Here's more Dak last week. The players around me, the coaches, the system that we've created, the culture that this team has. It's not just about how I feel about myself, but it's about these other guys, the confidence that they give me, I should say. Yeah, I don't know if I've had this much confidence or a greater feel than I have
Starting point is 00:44:37 with this offense, with this team, with our approach and how we're going to go and take care of things. Yeah, they're ready. They are ready to take care of business. You're a big jerk. Hey, Dak, what about let's talk Super Bowl? Did Dak say, you know what, that's the way of getting ahead. Let's focus on this coming up game.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Or, I mean, how would Dak respond if you said let's talk Super Bowl? Yeah, I mean, I want to be the best. And I think in my position it starts with winning the Super Bowl. So understanding that this opportunity is right here in front of us, it's about attacking that in every detail that I've got to do to make sure I get that. As far as wanting what somebody else has, I think everything's different. Every situation's different. He says the right words many times.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I'm not looking at other people really comparing myself. As I've told you all before, I've got the highest expectations and standards I put on myself. Here comes the bingo. I'm my biggest critic. Yeah. My internal drive and want is sometimes probably crazy to a lot of other people, but I think that's what pushes me, what allows me to focus. People are like, look at this guy's drive.
Starting point is 00:45:46 To create such great goals, to chase them, to get close to them, to beat them. If I would go online, I would determine that you are not your biggest critic. I feel like I could throw a rock right now. Yeah. Oh, Dak, Dak. Yeah Oh That's tough Oh Dak
Starting point is 00:46:08 You see me in a bear To fight poor honey on me So Oh Dak He's just so Dak Um And remember his
Starting point is 00:46:20 His uh His suitcases Yeah Louis Vuitton Louis Vuitton I was looking for that audio. I couldn't find it. So hashtag seize everything.
Starting point is 00:46:29 What is that? Is that something that people are saying about this team? You know, sort of like the never ever quit. Is that their motto for this playoffs? It was? Okay. Because that was just tagged on a tweet that said let's let's go at dallas cowboys uh hashtag seize everything carpe omnia right there you'll see a mccarthy thing
Starting point is 00:46:55 yeah carpe omnia this was tweeted by senator ted cru God. Before the game. Watch my cursing. But he did it for the Texans too, so he's not the one with bad luck. Did he really for the Texans? He did something. And the Longhorns. Yeah, he'll do it.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And Baylor and Houston. Let's see before we get to Jerry Audio. Just trying to look for different notes. Obviously, the Dan Quinn thing is insane. I think Dan, excuse me, I think Dez lost like a million dollars. Oh, I think I saw him, yeah. Did he put another 10 grand,000 on the game? Something.
Starting point is 00:47:48 He will tell you about that. Yeah. We had Cole Beasley attacking Brandon Cooks on Twitter. Go on. They just put a video out of the interception, the Jair Alexander interception, and somebody said about how Dak, you know, that was a bad ball or whatever, and Cole Beasley quote tweeted and said that's a horse shit route yeah
Starting point is 00:48:11 yeah can you agree with both of those things yes yeah both can be true for sure cooks did not I said that was the job of boxing on his defender yeah oh it was a bad day for all involved. Here's a fun stat. Since the Texans' first season. Shut up, Blake.
Starting point is 00:48:37 They have five playoff wins since 2002. That was their inaugural season. The Cowboys have four. Aren't stats fun? Did you look at Blake's email? It's insane. Oh, let's take a look at Blake's email. I incorporated some of that into my column this morning.
Starting point is 00:48:56 What was the other stat? The Packers haven't lost at AT&T yet? Is that true? And don't they have more playoff wins at AT&T than the Cowboys do? You know Nick? Emailer Nick? Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:11 He used to call himself... Time's changed. Says, using the law of complementary probability, there's only a 2% chance that the Cowboys would not make the NFC Conference Finals over 30 seasons if the two teams were just randomly pulled out of a hat each season. The Cowboys are defying the organizational, the odds of organizational incompetence going on three decades. And yeah, Blake then, last night, late night.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Late night, Blake. Sent us a real nice breakdown of it's not just that the cowboys if you would just pull two names out of a hat there would only be a two percent chance that if you did that whatever however many times 30 so 60 times that you would never get to the conference championship because the browns also haven't been to the conference championship. Because the Browns also haven't been to the conference championship, but you think, okay, I mean, the Browns, they have the worst winning percentage in all of football since they've come back to the game.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah, the oddity here is that the Cowboys are actually a really good team. Like, really, really good team. Really good. What is their winning percentage? So, you did a lot of this, Blake. Like, they're the sixth best team since Dak has been in the league. And what's that, eight years? So, since 2021, they're the fourth best team.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And not even fourth. They're tied. I wouldn't look that up like i don't know what what service you used but they're right there at like second third four like because buffalo had a a game where a guy died yeah so they got the one less game but i mean yeah they are with Kansas City, Buffalo, and San Francisco in the top four by fractions of a percentage point in winning percentage in the regular season. And since 2016, they're with Kansas City, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New England, and New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yeah, the elites. All those teams, elites, elite quarterbacks. Since 2011, they're the eighth best. So they're consistently, and since 06, Romo's first season, they're sixth. Yeah, I try to go back to when they've had a chance. I mean, you've had your franchise guy. Romo started in 06, Dak started in 16, and then a five-year update after that.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And it all kind of worked out nicely. But yeah, they're a top eight team since 2006. And every other team in that top eight has played for a Super Bowl. And that's the thing. We're not even saying they haven't been to the Super Bowl, which we would be saying had they been to the conference championship a couple times.
Starting point is 00:52:14 They can't even get to there, which is baffling. Yeah, I can't recall the exact words I used this morning, but it was something like a singular effort and failure. Like it's almost impressive. So you say there's six, the six best records since Romo's first season, and every other team in there has been to, actually, to a Super Bowl since then. They've won a Super Bowl. New England, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore,
Starting point is 00:52:50 New Orleans all have won a Super Bowl. Kansas City, Seattle. Since 06. Buffalo is the only one that hasn't and they've at least made a title in the AFC Championship game. So yeah. Their playoff record
Starting point is 00:53:04 and track record is down with the worst teams in the NFL. Yeah, their playoff record since that same year, they're the seventh worst playoff team. Miami and Washington and Vegas are 0 for. Detroit is actually 1 and3 in that time. Cleveland 1-2. After last night.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Okay. Minnesota 3-7, and then you got Dallas at 4-9. I mean, you got to get there to be able to have a bad record. Romo's playoff record, 2-4. Dak's, 2-5. Yeah. Last night was a – or yesterday was a legacy altering day. So their playoff success mirrors the list of the worst teams in the league,
Starting point is 00:53:59 except for the fact that actually five of the ten worst teams in the league have made a conference championship since the Cowboys have. Yeah, they've at least had a year or two years where they're – So even the very, very worst, even your Jets. Jags, Jets, Bucks, Rams, Panthers. It's just – it's astonishing what they're doing. To be this good and consistent and just not be able to break through that echelon
Starting point is 00:54:32 to get to the conference title. What made me start doing this was, like what you were saying earlier, we were just standing around your kitchen just saying, this does not make sense. At some point, to just get lucky enough to make one that i thought is this anything that we've seen in other sports as well and so that's what made me dive into let me compare the top 10 winningest teams in the last 20 years in other sports and see is this more common than we think? And it's not.
Starting point is 00:55:05 What they're doing is astonishing. So these are since they did last make a conference championship, which was the last time they won a Super Bowl too, correct? I think I messed up the wording. It's the last 20 years, so since 2004. Oh, 20 years. Yeah, last 20 years. Okay, so in the last 20 years, they have a top 10 winning percentage.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And if you go in every other sport, like take the, give me the basketball teams with the top 10 winning percentage, most of them have won a title. Like seven of the 10 have won a title. have won a title. Like seven of the ten have won a title. Two have been in the title game and one, of course, was
Starting point is 00:55:50 in the conference finals. Same thing with baseball. Top ten winning percentages. Every team, eight of the ten have won a title. Two have been in the World Series.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah, and the Rays and the Indians. And two of them. They've both been to two World Series. Top ten winning percentages in the NHL in the last 20 years. Nine have been in... Okay, I'm sorry. Seven have won a title. Two others have at least been in the finals. And then that last one, just like in the NBA,
Starting point is 00:56:28 has been to the conference finals, just never in the Stanley Cup finals. And then if you go to the NFL top 10 winning percentages in the past 20 years, the Cowboys are in there. They are the 7th best, or excuse me, 8th best winning percentage
Starting point is 00:56:44 in the last 10 years. 20. Excuse me, 20. Every one of the other teams has won a title. Won a title. That's three games ahead. So the top 10 winning percentages in the NFL. We got Patriots, Steelers.
Starting point is 00:57:01 In the last 20 years, Packers, Ravens, Colts, Seahawks, Saints, Cowboys, Eagles, and Chiefs. And they haven't even been to the... It makes no sense. Unless we do say... I mean, we've thrown out all of the objective facts you can. The subjectivity of the trickle-down attitude of the Cowboys, you know, trickling down from the owner, the glitz and glamour that is the Cowboys, the most profitable franchise in the NFL, the most profitable franchise in the NFL, the most profitable franchise in sports, the most valuable franchise.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Like, that is what the players are all about too. They're all the most noteworthy players. Dak is brought up all the time. Micah is very, you know, everybody's very camera friendly. Everybody's on a lot of commercials. Everybody's getting paid. Everybody's, you know, very well known. They're real famous. But in the end, there's just no substance behind it. Yeah. and I've always sort of tried to resist that designation because it feels kind of, you know, it's very qualitative and it's like narrative-y. But at some point, like, I give up.
Starting point is 00:58:38 It keeps happening time and time again. All these teams feel the same. Time and time again. All these teams feel the same. They have seven all pros, and they get the piss kicked out of them by the youngest team in the league at home in the first round of the playoffs. I don't know what to say anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:58 They may not actually just have the mental fortitude to compete in the playoffs. Maybe that all does come back to their ownership. I don't know, but I'm tired of it. That's the only consistent thing here. It's been through two different quarterbacks, multiple head coaches. There's been one consistent, and it's the front office. Should have brought Zeke back to play center.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Which is crazy because they do so many things so well. They're the best drafting team in the NFL. Zeke was there in Dak's suite last night. Did you guys see that? No. He can live that Des dream.
Starting point is 00:59:38 You're always welcome. It's country club, baby. Oh, he's a cowboy for life for sure. In fact, don't rule out Shut up Zeke on the roster So I wanted to play you I saw this online
Starting point is 00:59:55 First of all Jake has talked about So you've talked about when you played High school football for a very bad team. Yes, very bad. At some point, most games were so out of hand that you just start playing a math game. Yeah, I mean, I'm a believer. And okay, now we just got to score in four plays.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Then we have to hold them, do a three and out. Then we got to, you know, you're playing the game in your head. Maybe force a fumble, onside kick. You're trying to figure this out. How many timeouts do we have? Yeah. You always do this if you're gambling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Like, oh, you're playing every scenario out until, okay, I need a tie. I need overtime because then I can't. Yeah. until, okay, I need a tie. I need overtime because then I can't. So yesterday, this is, we're still in the first half, I think. Jake starts doing math. Is that a good sign?
Starting point is 01:00:56 17-7 at half. Get the ball back after half. It's 17-14. You're right back in it. You're right back in it. No problem. You got the two-minute warning. It's a timeout. We're already doing this it. No problem. You got the two-minute warning. It's a timeout. We're already doing this?
Starting point is 01:01:08 17-7. Okay, so we're doing it in the first half. Well, we had to. So apparently Brad Sham is over there on the Cowboys radio network, and he's giving Jake. If you score here, and they don't score again, and you get to kick off and score at the beginning of the second half it's a one score game so that makes this a big second and two prescott in the gun fakes the
Starting point is 01:01:33 inside handoff slant's picked off at the 50 this might be a house call to the 30 it's garnell savage all the way in, 50-yard-plus return. That does not help. This first half is just incredible. Dak is just trying to get a little slant route to the left side. Okay, I think that's probably enough. You want to hear? We actually did play-by-play of that as well.
Starting point is 01:02:05 By the way, your girls are gone. You can't do giving Jake anymore. We are at the two-minute warning. We have second and short. Cowboys ball at the 40, the Green Bay 40. We got a little play. We got an interception. Dude. He picked six.
Starting point is 01:02:23 That's a 40. Oh, my God. Ten, five. He walks the ball. Dude. And he picks six. Holy shit. Oh, my God. He walks the net. So they actually are going to lose. And he is into the end zone. And that's – That's a stupid face. That's a stupid face.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I think perhaps Jake's headset was on the floor at that point. I needed a moment because I knew you were going to play that. Your stupid honey drop. That was awful, dude. That was just such a terrible read. The situation. He just had an all-time career low night. Had a really bad time.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Intercepted by the guy that got suspended. Was that the guy? That one? Oh, no, no. He didn't do the pick six. The other pick. Jair Alexander? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:03:21 For the coin toss. He's the guy that went out for Carolina for the coin toss. Yeah. Got suspended for the coin toss. He's the guy that went out for Carolina for the coin toss, got suspended for the next game, and they still end up... I mean, he's arguably the best corner in the game. They still end up barely making the playoffs. Cowboys very happy because now we get a home game against the seven seed instead of a road game
Starting point is 01:03:42 against the, you know, who knows what Baker can do. Watch tonight. Number one, because I have this game in my little betting pool. Okay. And number two, just because you will see what your life could have been. The Bucs will get rolled. Well, they might. Because Baker's in the part of the Baker cycle to have a terrible game, I believe.
Starting point is 01:04:10 He is, yes. As much as I appreciate the offer from Scott Chandler and Bill's Mafia, and I may take them up on that, although I have caught a pass from Patrick Mahomes before, so my loyalty tends to ride with the Chiefs. The only thing I care about right now is the Eagles not advancing. That's it. That's the only thing that is giving me life.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Philadelphia cannot get hot. Yeah, if it's them and San Fran and the conference championship. I'll drive my car off a bridge. I had to look. I had some season-long things going. Stop laughing, Blake. I'm picturing Nick Sirianni. Yeah, that would make you very angry.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I can't do it. You know I lost my Brock Purdy for MVP. I do know that, yes. But also sprinkled a little on Kevin Stefanski to win Coach of the Year. Still have a chance. Yeah. That's not crazy. And the longest odds, this was probably three or four weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I did all these on the same day. Brock Purdy. The longest odds at that point for any what seemed to be playoff teams, it was the Lions at plus 1425 to win the Super Bowl. So I got in on that. Dang. So we'll see. And that's a fun one to root for.
Starting point is 01:05:42 You don't have to feel dirty about that, right? Man, I feel so... I don't know if we'll really do any other NFL today. Maybe we should save that for tomorrow because we're going to have two more games, right? To mess with? Yeah, that was a weird deal. Did you like the bits of... But I want to talk to Dan Campbell.
Starting point is 01:06:00 We're kind of scatter shooting here a little bit. But I think it was probably a joke. So I don't want to put too much into this potential trolling. But when they moved the Bills game and somebody was like, I can't believe they moved Bills Steelers. They didn't move D-Day for weather. Them boys got out there and fought. And the community notes is like they did they actually postponed it one day for weather yeah yeah so that person might have been doing a very
Starting point is 01:06:33 high level joke i was i was feeling bad for the governor of new york and the nfl in general and i suppose this i'm now like the Cowboys looking online and seeing criticism and I should instead just not pay attention to the comments. But I was. And that's kind of a no win. It's kind of like, you know, when the pandemic started and we're saying mask up and wash your counters and close your schools. Well, now you might be able to say, hey, those were bad ideas. We shouldn't have done it to that degree. But when you're erring on the side of caution and you're just trying to, like, what if one out of every five people are dying from this? We just don't know yet.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Once we figure that out, we can see, oh my gosh, we didn't need to close the school or whatever. But at the time, you have to take everybody's safety into account. So same thing with this New York thing. If indeed
Starting point is 01:07:39 there is big snow, and I think there was, so nobody's running to compliment them on that. But if indeed there was no weather, there would have been lots of screaming about all the inconvenience that you made people change their plans and this and that, and just this is big government, and you can't win there. No. It's the evacuating for a hurricane type thing. Same exact thing. Like, you kind of have to do it, but then...
Starting point is 01:08:10 And I suppose it's the same way I feel when I write the homeowner's insurance check. Like, really? We never use it. And then any time I can't, you know, I'm not going to pay it now. And then that's when lightning would strike. I'm not going to pay it now. And then that's when lightning would strike. Very weird, though, that when we get done here today,
Starting point is 01:08:31 we have an NFL playoff game on Monday. I mean, I guess it helps that it's a holiday, right? A lot of people are at home or off anyways. I mean, the Mavs are playing right now. Are they really? Yeah. I thought the NBA didn't play on MLK Day. No, they play the whole day.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Okay, they don't play on... Election Day. Election Day. Yeah. Get out the vote. Is that working? I think it's working great. All right, well, let's try and figure out our technical sitch. We will play some Jerry
Starting point is 01:09:06 audio and we'll do some stuff, but we'll have what we like to call a break. The Dumbs Up Daddy, how long has it been since the Cowboys won the Super Bowl? Whoa August
Starting point is 01:09:21 for the longest time Whoa August for the longest time. August for the longest time. There's no Dallas Cowboy dancing site. Are y'all still them boys after tonight? Green Bay destroyed you. No championship for you, that hasn't happened for the longest time. So much has happened since you won your last. Dak Prescott, trash! Lost in the wild card Dream they just stood on your star
Starting point is 01:10:08 You haven't won it for the longest time Maybe this won't last very long You said you'd win this year But you were wrong. Dak Prescott let down C.D. Lamb. He's the interception man, and that's all that he's known for. Ooh. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. The Dumb Zone. The Dumb Zone. The Dumb Zone
Starting point is 01:10:46 The Dumb Zone The Dumb Zone The Dumb Zone You see me in a bear and I fight poor honey on myself So the break was a song and then we play a song out of the song. That's right. Is that all right? It is all right.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Do you like that, Blake? Or do you like this? No puppet! Yeah, waiting on it. See, now that's inebriated Jake, positive, feeling good. He's screaming no puppet at the screen. But last night it's just... That was also about four times as many drinks.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Somehow alcohol, though, can pick you up and it can put you down. Just when combined with victory, it can bring you up higher. Sure. When combined with whatever you saw yesterday. Eagle's stream, Jake, was fun. That was fun. Yeah. So you want to play some Jerry stuff?
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah, I think you need to hear a little bit of this. Do we need me to have a backup in case something goes awry or no? It's in there. Okay. I'll just start letting it play and if you want to stop and start we can. I don't have any comments
Starting point is 01:12:16 or questions or answers for how and why we didn't do what we wanted tonight. I say this to our fans, how much you deserve us to not have this ending. I certainly in no way have spent any of my time over the last three hours asking how and why.
Starting point is 01:12:44 What I'm zeroed in on is the fact that I thought we were in a position, everybody in this room thought we were in a position, to advance this thing in the playoffs and maybe get as far as our dreams might take us. We didn't do it. I don't have any thoughts about the reasons why or anything to do with the coaching, anything to do about the players. I wanna give Green Bay a lot of compliments and credit. And this is one of my most surprises since I've been involved in sport, period.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Syntax? It's one of my most surprises. Yeah, he's trying to cut everybody off at the pass, too. And not talking about McCarthy or anything. Or Dak. Not even thinking about the coaches. Yeah, or players, yeah. Yeah, and –
Starting point is 01:13:43 I wonder if that worked. You know, I'm not old old enough and you're not from here but i honestly have to believe that this is the most disappointing loss in franchise history i i remember the um cardinals playoff game in the mid-90s. Wasn't that pretty bad? It was bad, but that was a team at the tail end of their contention. Right? You know, I mean...
Starting point is 01:14:17 The Jake Plummer game. Jake the Snake. Yeah. Absolutely. But this is a team that is seemingly in their prime right were expectations they were probably high but like you said and also i don't recall the score of that game and yesterday's score uh belies what actually occurred for 60 minutes they got destroyed and they got destroyed at home by the youngest team in the NFL based on age per snap count.
Starting point is 01:14:48 And it's the first time a seven seed has won a playoff game. Well, New Horizons, they didn't used to have them. No, but still. Yeah, no, you're right. What, it's been two or three years? Yeah. Since 2020, but this game is not made for the 7th seed to win. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:06 In fact, most of the time we're saying there's – Why is that team in the playoffs? It's been a failed experiment, I thought. Yeah. Why would you put – Yeah, expanding the playoffs. I like to – two buys, it worked. It worked great, and now every year there's these teams in there that you're like
Starting point is 01:15:26 this team should not have been in the playoffs and you might have thought it was Green Bay until they beat the Cowboys. Maybe now you think it's the Cowboys. But seriously when he says like I've never been this disappointed I believe him because I don't know that I can come
Starting point is 01:15:42 up with another loss where the expectations were higher and the result was poorer. See, because I've been through, and you have too, a few of these. So when you're the number one seed and you get a bye in that first week, and then you have to play a wild card team that has not had any rest. You've had the rest, so you didn't have that. So twice the Cowboys have had that and lost to a division rival, the Giants. That's pretty high expectations when you're the number one seed. The games were just so much closer.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Okay, yeah, that's a good point. They were down 27-0 in the first half yesterday. Yeah, those were games. Yeah, there was like a play you remember from each of those games. You're like, man, lost it in the lights, or this or that happened. I mean, they looked like the worst team in the league yesterday. Yeah, I mean, Micah was not... Not really a factor.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Two tackles. Was that Micah's... A couple pressures. I listened to a little Musers this morning. I thought I heard Junior say it was like his worst statistical game. Like, it was his worst game of his career. Like, one pressure, something real. The Buffalo game was really bad.
Starting point is 01:17:08 But yeah, it was not good. It was one of the worst for sure. And it's easily one of the worst games of Dak's career. We always see those in the playoffs. That's what it feels like. Alright, let me skip ahead a little bit here. I haven't thought about that.
Starting point is 01:17:29 McCarthy. Again, I haven't thought about it at all. Is that Dak? Every step of the way today, I was looking for the end of the game with us being able to move forward. We're not asking you to think about it. We're asking you to talk. Everything I looked at today, the plays themselves were almost a blur to me.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I was just thinking, how do we get to where we can have another game here next week? That kind of, if you need fuel for your fire. What, as far as his profit margin? Well, no, just the idea of, like, I'm not even thinking about, like the guy who is actually the general manager of the team is like, I'm not even really thinking about this game. I'm just thinking about the next game. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Like, how do we get to that? And so I haven't given it that type of analysis or look-see or what have you. Look-see. This one's burned into our soul out here tonight, and Green Bay got a great win. Jerry, is there any way you can connect? You know, they were absolutely looking ahead. They were looking ahead.
Starting point is 01:18:31 There's no other way around it. He's flat out saying it. They were all looking ahead. I don't know if they were thinking ahead to San Francisco already, but you know that once they got that two seed, they did say they breathed a sigh of relief that they don't have to face San Francisco right away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Because that's kind of a foregone conclusion. They might, you know, Dak's talking about Louis Vuitton bags and Las Vegas and Super Bowl. But it's not just him. They're asking Tony Pollard about the Super Bowl. They're asking CeeDee Lamb about the Super Bowl. Right. And that was the theme all week is How much more confident are you guys this year
Starting point is 01:19:06 in making a Super Bowl run compared to last year? And you're going to be asked about it. Well, the thing is what you think about it. What you say. And then what you say might be what you think. And they ask them because they know they're going to get an answer revolved around the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Not one player said, hey, we're just focused on this week. Not one. Nope. Jerry, are you concerned at all that your comments last week in Washington may have been a distraction for Mike McCarthy? What was that? That's when they asked him last week about what is McCarthy's job status. And he said a bunch of flowery things and then ended it with, we're going to see how each game goes. Jerry, are you concerned at all that your comments last week in Washington may have been a distraction for Mike McCarthy? That what?
Starting point is 01:19:54 That your comments last week in Washington may have been a distraction for Mike McCarthy? No. No, not at all. For people in the fans specifically who might want to have questions about the head coaching direction, whether it's Mike McCarthy or moving forward. Do you find it's important to give yourself time or do you think that you'll be making a decision sooner rather than later? When I start, when I think about it, which I haven't thought one second about it.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I know how hard, how much it meant to our fans to advance. What this loss to me means, again, I opened up by saying, not how, why, who didn't, who didn't do what, all of that kind of thing. The only thing that was on my mind almost this entire game was not an analysis of our strategy, not an analysis of the play. It was, do we get to play here again next week? Well, you're the GM. So it might behoove you to, while you're watching the team play,
Starting point is 01:20:56 not just be thinking, are we going to play next week, but rather be thinking, hmm, can I evaluate what I'm watching here? The payday for another playoff game. From a roster standpoint. I mean, it's just words. It's Jerry. I get it. It's all a bunch of BS.
Starting point is 01:21:15 But it's like I actually believe him when he says, I wasn't even thinking about anything other than are we playing next week? It's like you're the guy who built the team. You don't want to think about, oh, maybe we're a team that's only built to play with a lead. And if somebody punches us in the mouth on the ground, maybe we should be talking about what we do with the three and the one tech. Maybe we should be beefing up linebacker a little bit more. Maybe going with smaller linebackers as safeties, maybe that's not a great idea.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Maybe we should do this or that when it comes to the run game. And he's just like, I don't know. I don't think about any of that. I'm just like, are we playing next week? Again, I guess that's the trickle-down mentality of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. I'll play you like the last minute or so. I'll pick it up at the end here.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Okay. minute or so. I'll pick it up at the end here. My complete thought for the last several weeks have totally been about anticipating and planning on advancing from this game to another game
Starting point is 01:22:16 since we found out that we were going to have this home field. And so I'm... That goes with just what we've been saying. That's what all they've been saying. Yeah. That's what all they've been thinking about is how far they're going to advance now that we have home field. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:29 This is great. It's already written that we don't lose at home. Yeah, I mean, it's 16 straight. Again, this is five minutes later. I'm going back to the complete bottom of my thought process to think about anything other than next week's game here. After seeing this result, do you still feel like this team's close? Again, I haven't thought about anything. The main thing is I sure thought it was close coming in.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Jerry, what will be your process the next few days in analyzing what you need to do? I don't. You know, every day I've got a lot of things that you do, and so I'm not sure I know a process from just what you do every day in terms of how that works. But we certainly have a background in what happens after you lose a playoff game. We have too much experience with that.
Starting point is 01:23:29 I thought that was interesting. Like, yeah, I got a lot of experience when it comes to losing playoff games. It's like I've been doing it for a while now. Unbelievable. Yeah. So here we are. We'll do this whole dance again. They'll pick in the late twenties and we'll rinse and repeat. I guess. Do they get a quarterback? I mean, he's still under contract. Okay, but you pick a DT in the 20s that you thought will help shore up your run game,
Starting point is 01:24:12 and he didn't do anything. Boy, as much as I love their scouting department, and who knows who makes these decisions, and maybe these guys turn out to be great, that draft gave you nothing. I thought the perfect end to that game was Schoonmaker not getting out of bounds with 30 seconds left. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Your second round pick. He gave them nothing. Mozzie gave them nothing. Overshawn was hurt in camp. That third round pick, it's like... You didn't suit up Deuce. They essentially just – Yeah, Deuce was –
Starting point is 01:24:47 Punted. An incredible bust. Well, I mean, you're picking – I mean, what, seventh round? Still, that can't be your mindset. I mean, they've – No, I'm not saying that you should just – They've had contributors in the late rounds for sure.
Starting point is 01:25:02 I'm not saying you should just look at it and be like, oh, that's a throwaway pick. But I feel like in the same way that we make fun of it because it felt like it was a Sotnam pick, where it was done for publicity, I feel like that also put a spotlight on him that other seventh-round picks, you would never even think about them. But if you just look at the top three, they got nothing from their draft this year. Nothing. Which is very hard to do whenever you're ostensibly going to have
Starting point is 01:25:37 the highest paid quarterback, wide receiver, pass rusher, and cornerback in the NFL. That's tough. Yeah, it's also tough. Deron Glenn is about to be not cheap either, by the way. Oh, for sure. Sorry. I mean, they've had such great success.
Starting point is 01:25:56 With drafting, yeah. With drafting recently. You want to give them a year? You're going to have your bust times? And those guys may still develop, you know? But seemingly there were more, like, ready-to-contribute guys right now in the draft than what they took. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I mean, I guess we could wrap it up the same way we started. Of the range of outcomes, this is literally the most unexpected and worst thing that could have possibly happened. Dak played horribly, McCarthy got outcoached, and they got thumped at home by a young team. And it's also the only thing that we said could have gotten McCarthy run. Yeah. The exact template. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And we would, like, laugh about it. Yeah, because it was the one thing that really wasn't going to happen. Yeah. Not a total embarrassment. I mean, not the way, you know, when you've been through it, you somehow can combat against it. I mean, that's the theory. It's all theory. All right.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Well. Done for six months. I guess we have a long That's the thing And then next year I mean I get so juiced up For football season And You won't believe a thing
Starting point is 01:27:33 Next year I think Well you know what I actually Before I wrote my column This morning I went back and read my column From last year
Starting point is 01:27:39 And it's You know I wish On one hand I wish That I could have just copy and pasted it. But this is worse. This is way worse.
Starting point is 01:27:53 That's why they have to make a coaching change. How do you sell to the fan base next year when you're 10-1? Or how about to the team? To the team or the fan base or whatever. You're 10-1. Well, how about to the team? To the team or the fan base or whatever. You're 10-1 and things are humming. How do you sell that it's different now? You can't. That's why you just have –
Starting point is 01:28:16 the coach generally ends up being the fall guy in these situations. And Kellen Moore probably didn't deserve to go last year, but he was in the spot. And so you had to get rid of Kellen Moore probably didn't deserve to go last year, but he was in the spot. And so you had to get rid of Kellen Moore. I mean, that's just, you have to, every year, you kind of do a little something. You have to try a little something different just to say, oh no, here's what's different. So all year long, it was, well, yeah, but now McCarthy's calling the play. And again, I listened to Dak's press conference from last week for comedy this morning. As he's, oh, you know, me and Mike, we meet every Thursday.
Starting point is 01:28:52 We meet Thursday. I mean, we usually meet for two, three hours, maybe a half hour of football talk. But, I mean, it's just about life. It's about being a father. It's about, like, I call BS on a lot of it um just because you know even when you and i talk and sit around like much of it is about work yeah most of it is about work even though we are friends and interested in each other but you know if we got three hours huh it's not you don't tell everyone and then call it Keep It Real Thursday.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Yeah, no, but it's just the whole, you know, and then the footwork and the thing, and we're all on the same page, and it's just enormously better than last year. Now, oh, he's calling plays. Yeah, man. I mean, he just has a feel for it. It's incredible because he's done it. He's a maestro. He knows, you know, as different things happen,
Starting point is 01:29:48 and he's the head coach doing it, so he's got the big picture in mind. He's not just trying to go for it. Remember, I think McCarthy's thrown Kellen Moore into the bus a little bit this year. For sure. You know, hey, sometimes you've got to manage the whole game. He just wants to light up the scoreboard. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 01:30:01 hey, sometimes you've got to manage the whole game. You don't just – He just wants to light up the scoreboard. Yeah, you know. And you can't – you're probably in a corner with the quarterback and his contract and just the quarterback position itself. You probably can't do anything there. Short of, yes, let's actually look to draft his replacement
Starting point is 01:30:27 before he's already too old. They got lucky with it with Romo and Dak. Yeah, and I mean, dude, that's just such a tough road to hoe because, I mean, obviously Lamar is an outlier. Dak is the supreme outlier. But for the most part, if you want your quarterback, you're giving up capital. And now you're in the situation of, all right,
Starting point is 01:30:54 so what would actually make my team better right now? Using this capital to improve the roster that he's on or bundling it together to move up to go get, you know, one of the top 10 quarterbacks. It's just very unlikely that you're going to find a franchise quarterback in the bottom half of the first round. Not impossible, but unlikely. I mean, Jordan Love was the end of the first round.
Starting point is 01:31:22 However, they did trade up to go get him. And if you recall, because I remember us playing this audio, Aaron Rodgers was not thrilled about that. Nope. Didn't he pour himself a scotch? Tequila or something. A couple fingers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:37 And that was because they hadn't drafted a wide receiver in like 100 years in the first round. Yeah, and I would have been bothered by that too. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the way, you know, you're even real smart organizations are drafting Trey Lance at the top of the draft or Trubisky or whoever, you know, you're, you can, you can miss so big.
Starting point is 01:32:04 You're likely to miss. But in doing my research last night, it just seems like they've been a team in the last 20 years that has not put any draft capital into their quarterback position. They haven't had to. And they're playing like, well, I know, but maybe it's time to fix it because this isn't working. Relying on an undrafted quarterback and a fourth round quarterback to win playoff games has not meant success for you
Starting point is 01:32:30 but the eighth best record in the nfl over the last 20 years also that's cool is that what you want did you have the better quarterback on the field last night one of them was a fourth round quarterback one of them was a first i wonder in truth what you're a businessman if you're jerry what do you really want i thought you meant me i was like thank you but you are certainly you're a small businessman he's a big businessman sure and what do you really want in the mix eight and eight slash 12 and five 8-12-5 bubble, never great, never good enough even for the NFC Championship game, but always relevant, always still talked about, always in the mix. We draft the flashy name player more often than not. I know they had to hold him back to not draft Manziel,
Starting point is 01:33:21 but otherwise, CD falls, we're going to get him. We're going to get Dez. We're going to get names. We're going to have fantasy football highlights for sure. You know, in your fantasy drafts, people are always picking Cowboys because they'll light it up. Profitable franchise, just net. But or would you rather have a stretch where you have to just be really bad for a while?
Starting point is 01:33:48 Really bad. So you can get that number one overall pick. Or, like a top five pick so that you could actually move up, you know, trade some of your future capital, all that. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've written this every year. And it's armchair psychologist, you know, because I actually do believe that Jerry wants to win. But they have kind of kept themselves in the we're always going to be relevant, you're always going to be talking about us, we're not going back to 5-11 cycle.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Which is not easy to do. People are always trying to stay out of that cycle. Yeah, but sometimes. Nobody wants to get in it. No, no, no. Like the Eagles have gotten in it. They have. They've been good, terrible, worse than the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Now they're better, you know. But to break through, sometimes you've got to put it on the table a little bit. What does that mean? Well, I mean, if you look at the Eagles, for example, I mean, they've made some trades that have left them with a lack of draft capital. I mean, the Cowboys could have at any point in time over the last two years started dealing away second round, third round. I mean, the Cooks and the Gilmore trade.
Starting point is 01:35:02 They could have got themselves A.J. Brown. Exactly. The Cooks and the Gilmore trade. They could have got themselves A.J. Brown. Exactly. The Cooks and the Gilmore trade are a step in the right direction. But those are relatively low cost. And I know Wentz is not equitable to Dak, but they drafted a guy at two that worked their way to the Super Bowl with him and then decided he's not the guy anymore, and they moved on quickly. Quickly.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Yeah. Whereas that's just – because that is a tremendous risk. And that's – yeah, the Cowboys would never do that. Had they decided to do that, they might have Lamar Jackson today. Correct. Because Lamar fell. Yeah. And Dak, you weren't sure about him at the time,
Starting point is 01:35:40 and you could have let him walk. They would have – there's no way they would ever do that man but but to to shift that question from a business standpoint to a fan standpoint is it more entertaining for the cowboys to be the cowboys one of the better teams in the league and not have any playoff success or be like the rangers where you're not a factor nine out of ten years but that you have your year is that one year Marlins debate the Marlins Braves Marlins Braves of the old days yeah I don't know I mean the NFL is a little bit different but because there is a lot of juice going into every year where there's so much optimism and it's like you got to watch every
Starting point is 01:36:24 game dude you know there is something to that i think uh our buddy tim on twitter pointed this out the other day i'm pretty sure they got kb and greg olsen every game they were on fox like fox is basically like we were they've never had the b team like we were discussing why are they doing commanders's Cowboys at noon? And I think he looked it up, like, went back and, you know, went through it and was like, Fox has just decided, just put the Cowboys on. It doesn't matter who they're playing. It doesn't matter when they're playing.
Starting point is 01:36:58 It doesn't matter what's at stake or not at stake. Just put the Cowboys on. And that works very well for the family. Perfect way to end. That was a good ender. Here's Jake with the Dumb Zone News.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Well, unfortunately, my news is cowboy related because I always love this. Fights in the crowd? No, I didn't. Did you see any? No. I didn't see any. However, I did see this clip on Dallas, Texas TV and then went and pulled the longer version of it. And it's the fun bit where the news reporter has to go out to a game
Starting point is 01:37:53 and interview fans. Always a classic. So we got Rebecca Lopez out here post-game last night, and there's some gold in here. Cowboy fans left here in the cold after the team was iced out of the playoffs by the Packers. Get it? Yes, they were iced out.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Cowboy fans left here in the cold after the team was iced out of the playoffs by the Packers. And this was a team that many thought would actually make it to a Super Bowl, but they didn't even show up to play. So many fans say they're disgusted and want change. We just lost, man! I can't believe we lost! They didn't even show up to play, so many fans say they're disgusted and want change. Disgusted.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I am upset. You feel me? I am from Virginia. I flew all the way in today to watch this. I'm sad. Frustrated. We got another Romo on our hands. Choke like a...
Starting point is 01:38:42 Disappointed. They cut it off right before she said motherfucker. We got another Romo on our hands. Choke like a... Disappointed. They cut it off right before she said motherfucker. We got another Romo on our hands. Choke like a... Disappointed. We need another quarterback, another coach, everything. It don't matter to me. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:38:55 That's how Cowboys fans felt after watching the team implode once again in the playoffs. We need help. We need Jesus. We need Jesus. We need Jesus. Many blaming the coaches. Mike McCarthy losing at home against the Packers. I think legacy gone, man. Like, you won a Super Bowl with the Packers,
Starting point is 01:39:16 and then you go take over a new team, and you lose at home against that team? Without Ann Rogers. Drunk wife. Without Ann Rogers. Drunk wife. Without Ann Rogers. You know. It's embarrassing. Others, the quarterback.
Starting point is 01:39:32 No more Dak Prescott. ASAP, new quarterback. Dak, get him out of here. Trey Lance, the next stud. Let's go. Oh, all right. We're going for Trey Lance now. The next stud.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Let's go. Let's go, Rangers. Let's go, Rangers. All right. Okay, yeah. Let's go, Rangers. And many fans demanding change. 12-5, 12-5, 12-5.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Who cares when we lose like this to the freaking Packers who shouldn't even be here? It's disgusting. Let's get a real head coach. And if he can't do it for us, let's get a new quarterback. I'm tired. Fans came from all over and dealt with the... That's how it sounds every single time I yell at my family. I just say everything I have to say and then I'm just like, I'm tired.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Let's get a real head coach. And if he can't do it for us, let's get a new quarterback. I'm tired. Fans came from all over and dealt with the cold weather just to watch this mess. We drove far for no reason. Fans say they were fed up and freezing. We're from Florida. We're freezing our a** off. I've been here since 10, just to freeze, to lose. Not worth it.
Starting point is 01:40:34 There was enough blame to go around as the Cowboys suffered one of the most embarrassing losses in the team's playoff history, and now fans are left disappointed once again. At AT&T Stadium, I'm Rebecca Lopez. Back to you. Ooh, fans are not holding back, and I don't blame them. Still ahead tonight, firefighters braving the cold to battle a fire on water. Ooh, fans are not holding back. Yeah, they're deservedly so.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Give Jared a piece of your mind. Oh, that song's funny. I'm surprised I never ended up on one of those. One time, man, this is so bad. The first football game I think I ever went to with my wife. We might have been to a college game before, but the first Cowboy game I ever went to, it was Cowboys-Giants, and this was during the Victor Cruz era. What do you remember about Victor Cruz and his celebrations, Blake?
Starting point is 01:41:39 Salsa dancing. Yeah. So the Cowboys won, and I think it was a good Giants team. And I honestly should have been murdered. Because this is like in my real party days. And, like, I was salsa-ing in front of every Giants fan on the way out. I was like, salsa, salsa. Just rubbing it in.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Yeah. You're not a good winner, as you're saying. I'm not a good winner or a good loser. No. Yeah, I was like, da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da. So you're looking to get in a fight. I was just looking to, you know. Stir it up.
Starting point is 01:42:21 That's right. Stir it up, Blake. Urquhart, speaking of Blake, is asking us to conserve energy tomorrow morning. So now is fine? Fat chance. Yeah. The call in particular is for
Starting point is 01:42:37 to curb your usage from six to nine. Nice. Tomorrow morning. Okay. Interesting pinpointing that time frame. Is that when everybody's getting ready for work or something? That's what I would assume. Getting ready to go to school? Your blow dryers.
Starting point is 01:42:56 You know, women. Hair curlers. Do women still use curlers? I don't think so. Do you remember that? Like when you were a kid, like your mom having the full thing and you would accidentally touch it. It would just like scald you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:14 For months. Curlers in the hair on the car ride over. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They must still use them. I mean, I know like the curling iron is still popular, but curlers themselves. Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:29 You're walking around. Grandma used to have those. I just don't see those anymore. I mean, I guess I'm typically only around one woman. Yeah, and if she doesn't use them. Do you guys have stuff like that that recalls memories instantly? Like smells? Like the smell of the curler to me.
Starting point is 01:43:54 And the hair. It just puts me right back into a very specific place. Yeah, I think certain things. Certainly, to me, certain music does. The wall? No, well, no, there's some, like, 70s song that actually puts me, like, into the backseat of a car. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Like, I remember hearing, I must have remembered hearing this when I was a little kid or something. Yeah, I got a couple of those. Which is really weird. Yeah, smell-wise for me, hey, Mom, I know you're listening to this. Can you tell my mom to stop listening? Yeah, quit listening. Why would she listen? Hairspray makes me think of church.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Okay. My wife doesn't really use hairspray all that often. In fact, I feel like hairspray has kind of had a down a couple decades. It seemed like it used to be a lot more popular. Blake, what do you think? Yeah, that puts me back at home. Does your wife use hairspray? Again, no, but I don't know if that's just her or not.
Starting point is 01:45:04 Yeah, but the occasional times where I smell hairspray, Again, no, but I don't know if that's just her or not. Yeah. But like the occasional times where I smell hairspray, I'm like, ugh, youth group. Yeah, there's some of that stuff that puts me right back in the 90s. Shows and music and I don't know. For me, I guess it's more like food smells. Yeah. You know, something that only my extended family would cook or something. Yeah, I know sometimes when I go to –
Starting point is 01:45:34 I do think of one college girlfriend when I walk through the Papa Doe's kitchen. Why are you in the kitchen? I like to inspect the food prep sometimes. When they're gutting the fish. Maybe you should give her a call. Yeah, then I think of her. Fire up Facebook. Damn. Yeah, pull I think of her. Fire up Facebook. Like, damn.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Yeah, pull up her Facebook picture. Why is this customer in the game? What could have been. Yeah, I got my laptop in there with me. I'm holding it. What's your Wi-Fi password? Oh, my God. That is really weird.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Really weird, dude. password oh my god that is really weird really weird dude but yes we have actually had a couple of deaths and three injuries uh on dallas county highways within just the last 24 hours i suck at driving in this stuff man me too like i i texted you guys this morning oh you grew up in ohio you should be great at it. I was about to say that. Yeah. You would think. You would think. I'm not terrible at it.
Starting point is 01:46:52 You've got to know your strength. You don't just try and steal every base. You've got to judge your own speed. You're more of a finesse driver. You're really good at just weaving in and out, going 100. Right. I was born to live in Texas. Because if you go up there, too, my daughter was talking about this,
Starting point is 01:47:16 when you drive in New York or something. Slow. Just the state of New York, even. Not just New York City when there's big traffic. The state of New York, it's, yeah, slow. It's, well, she's like, if it says 55, people are driving 55. Maybe 60. Suckers.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Right. They don't understand that we don't listen to big government here. That's right. Yeah, both these, or all three of these deaths occurred overnight. And, you know, for me, I post cowboy. Yeah. It doesn't say there's nothing mentioned about like alcohol or anything in here, but certainly it could have been cowboy related.
Starting point is 01:47:55 But yeah, like for me, it's the you're at a light, you hit the accelerator and you just fishtail. That happened to me this morning and I'm like, okay, am I just bad at this? Do I just hit it too hard? I mean, you just really shouldn't be out in it. Probably not. Probably not. No real reason to unless you have a podcast.
Starting point is 01:48:21 You have a podcast, and you have two kids at home, and you need to get away from them. Yeah, on a holiday. Snow day holiday. Either way. I wonder if schools will be in session tomorrow. So my wife works for... We've at least already been advised of a late start. My wife works for a school system, and this morning the alarm goes off,
Starting point is 01:48:40 like it usually does for her, at 6.30. Grinder. arm goes off like it usually does for her at 6 30 grinder and then it went off again because the snooze and then it went off again and i'm noting it as i'm lying there now i'm stirred so i'm doing some words or something and yeah it was 7.35 And she's still in bed And I said hey what's What's the deal She goes I forgot it's MLK day Turn your alarm off
Starting point is 01:49:15 She just forgot Like the night before She's prepping for it And I guess she got up And At 6.30 She texted a friend of hers who works for the school.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Or whenever, one of those alarms, she texted her friend. I didn't let the freezing temperature. We got more audio for the news? Anyway, she woke somebody up that she works with to find out if school was closed. Bad co-worker. She thought the weather might be school was closed. Bad co-worker. She thought the weather might be good. Sorry. Bad co-worker.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Yeah. No, right now on NBCDFW's website, they have their trending thing up there at the top, a little trending bar. We've got the Good News newsletter. We've got Arctic Blast latest. That's what we're in now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Arctic Blast. You're in the middle of a blast. Did you not feel it? No. We've got Navy SEALs missing. Oh, no. And Sitting by Taylor. What's that mean?
Starting point is 01:50:24 Simply caught up with someone who's set near Taylor Swift at a football game. Oh, okay. Sitting by Taylor. What's that mean? Simply caught up with someone who's set near Taylor Swift at a football game. Oh, okay. I like the Taylor Swift memes. Her looking through the... The glass? Yeah, the foggy window. That was my second favorite meme to the Jake. There were a lot of Jake football memes. That was my second favorite meme to the Jake.
Starting point is 01:50:47 There were a lot of Jake football memes. Like and subscribe. I gave you my own. No, you did. You brought it. We can end with this. The Dumb Zone presents Today in History. So if you're listening to this not on, you know, Monday the 15th, maybe you just don't even want to listen to this part and you just can bail out.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Do whatever you want. That's right. You're the boss of you. By the way, the Seahawks have put in a request to interview Dan Quinn. Take him. Take him. Take him? Okay, we're just done with Dan Quinn now. After leading the league in turnovers over a three-year period and pressure rate, we're just done with Dan Quinn now.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Did you hear Micah last week? Said something about DQ's my guy. Who knows, maybe he'll take me with him. That's not exactly what he said, but it was something jocular. He said it in a comedic vein. So it's Monday, January 15th. It is Martin Luther King Jr. the King Day.
Starting point is 01:51:56 On this day in 1892, the original rules of basketball were published for the first time in Springfield Mass. This game devised by Dr. James Naismith. The first ever rules
Starting point is 01:52:12 today. Number one, white guys only. On this day in 1978, it was the first ever Super Bowl indoors. What if we had to explain to Mr. Naismith that there's going to be this guy, James Harden, he's going to do this rip-through move, and KD's going to take it on. You're going to have to make a rule for that. It feels like cheating, I know, but they found a little loophole.
Starting point is 01:52:39 And then people are going to start hacking this guy named Shaq, and it's just going to make a mockery of the game. then people are going to start hacking this guy named Shaq, and it's just going to make a mockery of the game. Could you go back and teach someone of that era, of his era, the Eurostep? No, I don't think that you could. Where was it? Atlanta?
Starting point is 01:52:59 New Orleans. New Orleans. Atlanta? How would the first ever Super Bowl be in Atlanta? Did they have a dome back in the 70s? I thought they did. Did they not? Where did they used to play? I feel like Jake just had a really bad point.
Starting point is 01:53:13 I immediately followed it up with New Orleans. I'm also afraid to really go at you hard because I don't know. Why was that so bad? I just feel like Atlanta, I mean, growing up I heard of the Astrodome. The Georgia Dome? Okay, was that there in the 70s? I don't know. I just thought there was like two domes.
Starting point is 01:53:35 I thought there was one dome, the Astrodome, and then New Orleans got one. Yeah, no, you're right, 92. I just remember when I was growing up, I remember thinking, the Falcons are a dome team. Sue me. Please don't.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Is that the house that Dion built? Yeah, probably so, Dan. Roger Staubach. What do you want? Was the quarterback. The Falcons? Dion? Against former Cowboy backup Craig Morton.
Starting point is 01:54:09 So those two used to actually, I think there was even one game or one stretch where Tom Landry would send in the play with the quarterback. Absolutely. So Craig Morton would run in, do a play. Roger Staubach runs out. He gets the next play. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Can you imagine if that would have actually worked and that was a thing now? No. I can't, but I know Steve Spurrier did it with Florida. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. And for those of us who grew up playing youth football, very common. Like I did that. Really?
Starting point is 01:54:50 Yeah. Because I know, I believe Paul Brown would have an offensive lineman do it. Yeah, the most common thing is to have a receiver do it. Which I also did. That makes sense. Which was really the only thing I did. I was basically a pigeon. Did you ever change the play to one that you got the ball?
Starting point is 01:55:12 No. Of course not. So you're smart, but not that smart. I'm a team player. Team player. You're no Jair Alexander. That's right. On this day in the year 2000,
Starting point is 01:55:24 the Jags defeat the Dolphins 62-7. Jimmy. Jimmy's last coaching appearance. The second largest margin in playoff history. I don't know the first.
Starting point is 01:55:41 So if you guys want to search that, that'd be a lot of fun. So if you guys want to search that That'd be a lot of fun Bill's 51-3 over the Raiders In 1991 In an AFC Championship game Wow
Starting point is 01:55:57 51-3 So this one got the Jags to The AFC Championship Bill must have been really good that year Maybe they'll win the Super Bowl Nope Jags to the AFC Championship. The Bills must have been really good that year. Maybe they'll win the Super Bowl. Nope. The first of many losses, Blake. So the Jags have been to the AFC Championship more recently than the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Yeah. They were in it in 2017? Blake Bortles. So they've been there twice since the Cowboys have been there. Yes. So they've been there twice since the Cowboys have been there. Yes. And, oh, on this day in 2009,
Starting point is 01:56:32 U.S. Airways Captain Chelsea Sullenberger put his Airbus 320 down in the Hudson River after a flock of birds disabled both engines. All 155 people aboard survived. Sully. So you landed a plane because a bird flew into it. And you're a hero now? And from what I understand from speaking to other pilots, we live in a pilot-laden area.
Starting point is 01:57:00 We do. That's why we have so many 9-11 memorials. Yeah. Oh, I got another one I'll show you tomorrow. There's only about 80,000 other pilots that could have pulled that off. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:57:18 He wasn't being attacked by a missile. Like every pilot that flies for American that I've ever met have said, yes, I would just land the... I would have also not killed anyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:34 Pretty simple. You know. There's a huge body of water here. Oh, we hit a bird? Yeah. I'll just land it. It's not a big deal. You can still get drink service while I'm doing it. And on this day in 2020, Chinese officials said they couldn't rule out the possibility that a new coronavirus in central China could spread between humans,
Starting point is 01:57:55 but they said the risk of transmission appeared to be low. Well, good. Good. They don't lie. They couldn't rule it out, but they're not, like, confirming it. Good. They don't lie. They couldn't rule it out, but they're not, like, confirming it.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Today's birthdays, we have... I didn't really roll through email, so I might have gotten some emailed birthdays. Oh, no. We'll have to get those tomorrow. I'm sorry. Pretty busy with football this morning. Because we don't watch a lot of the broadcast, you know. Kind of got to go back. I kind of went back and...
Starting point is 01:58:24 Anyway. Did it get better the second time? Well, I knew exactly what happened. Yeah. Former Cowboy Randy White, 71. Has oddly taken on a Texan accent. He's been here a long time, though. Yeah, but I mean, so have you.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Yeah, he's the manster. He could do whatever he wants. Could he beat you up? He's 71. Yeah. Yeah. Probably so. Former Ranger Mitch Garver, 33.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Male prostitute. Former Ranger Armando Galarraga is 42. Wow. Do you know the moment in history he's famous for? I guess not. Blake? Baseball guy? He had a perfect game with two outs in the ninth inning.
Starting point is 01:59:21 He was pitching for the Tigers and got a ground ball that pulled Miggy off the bag. Throws to Galarraga covering. Out. Called safe. Before replay. Oh, this is the Jim Joyce, right? Okay. I struggle remembering that guy's name.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Okay. Very blatantly safe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Blake said Jim Joyce. By a step. Not like bang's name. Okay. Very blatantly safe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Blake said, Jim Joyce. By a step, not like bang, bang. Yeah. It was not even close at all.
Starting point is 01:59:52 Yeah. And, yeah, I watched it again this morning. Just unbelievable. And that was like the only good thing that guy did in his career. Yeah. Like he's not a good pitcher. No, he's terrible. That's like the only good thing that guy did in his career. Like, he's not a good pitcher.
Starting point is 02:00:04 No, he's terrible. Former Ranger manager Jeff Bannister is 60. Jake. Future father-in-law. Debo Samuel, 28. Stud. Drew Brees, 45. Has to throw left-handed now.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Golfer Gary Nicholas is 45. He actually won one tournament on tour. Actor Andrea Martin is 77. She is the mom in Life Goes On. Never seen it. Actor Chad Lowe, 56. He was Jesse in Life Goes On. The kid who dated Becca, but he had AIDS. What?
Starting point is 02:00:48 It was in the era, the 90s. Yeah, so divorce parents. Was the era when you had to tell everybody that AIDS is cool. It's okay. You could date someone that has AIDS. You could hang out with
Starting point is 02:01:03 someone that has AIDS. You could even out with someone that has AIDS. You could even use the same toilet. Right. Just don't let him put it in your butt. Yeah. Musician Adam Jones is 59.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Pac-Man. He's from Tool. And you know Bush would open for Tool on their tour. Not a fan. Their music always sound like a math problem to me. Hole opens for Korn.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Okay, sorry. And Pitbull is 43. Mr. Worldwide. I think he's, like, obscenely wealthy. You think? Isn't that the dumbest thing you've ever said of course he is well no i mean like i think he's i bet dac's girlfriend is hot no no no i don't mean like he's rich i'm just saying like i thought he was one of these guys like have you ever looked up like 50 cents net
Starting point is 02:01:55 worth no like he got into like vitamin water or something so it's like a billion it's something way more than you would expect yeah Yeah. How did we get into something like that? Pitbull's only 100 million. I would have expected more. Born, now dead, Martin Luther King. This is his birthday. And Ray Chapman. Ray Chapman is the only Major League Baseball fatality.
Starting point is 02:02:23 He was a Cleveland Indian. And was killed. On the field of play. Died on this day. What happened? Heart attack? No, bean. Heart attack in the head.
Starting point is 02:02:36 Bean ball. Oh, geez. He was at bat? Yeah, I believe so. How else would he have been hit by a beanpole? I guess I didn't process that part. I didn't know if he was pitching and got a comebacker off the head or something. I think he was at bat.
Starting point is 02:02:53 Yeah, it looks like it. Dang. So that happened in 1920. Dude, listen to this. So it was a pitch thrown by Carl Mays. The sound of the ball striking Chapman's skull was so loud that Mays thought it had hit the end of Chapman's
Starting point is 02:03:10 bat. He fielded the ball and threw it to first base. Wow. Certainly weren't wearing helmets back then. No. That's insane. This helped cause them to start wearing the helmet. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:30 He's got a really high helmet. It's because of his hair. Is that why? I think so. That doesn't make any sense. Well, it just sits a little bit higher. Why would that not make any sense? Why are you so competitive today?
Starting point is 02:03:45 Me? I feel like both of you are just Short of patience today No You're just ready to snap at each other No, no, no This happens every MLK day Because Jake's like
Starting point is 02:03:58 I don't know why It's got to be a federal holiday, man I mean, geez I'll work I'm like, he did a lot. He was important. What about all that sleeping around? So Ray Chapman, the only major league baseball fatality.
Starting point is 02:04:14 On this day in 1968, Bill Masterson died. The only NHL fatality. He died during a game. What a note. I guess probably with a puck, Blake. I don't know. Well, I mean, with hockey, you're opening yourself up to a couple of other opportunities. Could have been a skate to the neck.
Starting point is 02:04:35 But I think, look him up real quick. I think it was, I think he did not have puck luck. SPDO. But I don't know how Bill Masterson died. Was he a Dallas star? No. Died in 1968? Well, he was a North star.
Starting point is 02:04:56 Was he a North star? Okay. I thought they might have had his number retired. Okay. Because that's one sure way to get your number retired. I think he just got checked and landed on his head. I retire the numbers of guys who stay alive after they get hit. Yeah, his head hit the ice.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Oh, and his teammates said it sounded like a baseball bat hitting a ball. Teammates said it sounded like Carl Mays pitching to Ray Chapman. Yeah. And died on this day in 2016. Dan Haggerty. Do you know why he's famous, Blake? Or Jake, I should ask.
Starting point is 02:05:42 I know the name. So have you ever heard of a show called Grizzly Adams? Yeah, Blake. Or Jake, I should ask. I know the name. So have you ever heard of a show called Grizzly Adams? Yeah, okay. I'm not that familiar. I'm just familiar that it exists. Didn't he like marry Ty Walker or something? He performed the
Starting point is 02:05:57 wedding ceremony of Richard Hunter. And Ty Walker was there. Yeah. Yeah. And that was Today in History. Well, thanks, guys. Tomorrow, keep...
Starting point is 02:06:21 Just don't run your hair dryer in the morning. That's right. Adios, mofo. Just don't run your hair dryer in the morning. That's right. Adios, mofo. Adios, mofo. I hurt myself today To see if I still feel. I focus on the pain, the only thing that's real. The needle tears a hole. The old familiar sting.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Try to kill it all away. But I remember everything. What have I become? My sweetest friend Everyone I know Goes away in the end And you could have it all My empire of dirt I will let you down I will make you hurt. I wear this crown of thorns upon my liar's chair full of broken thoughts
Starting point is 02:08:28 I cannot repair beneath the stains of time the feelings disappear You are someone else I am still right here What have I become? My sweetest friend Everyone I know goes away in the end I will have it all, my empire of dirt. I will let you down, I will make you hurt. I could start again A million miles away I would keep myself
Starting point is 02:09:52 I would find a way

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