The Dumb Zone FREE - Luka eliminated, Today in Belichick, and Eric Nadel promoting his Birthday Benefit | DZ 5-1-25

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

Hear every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneDan and Jake detail their horrendous nail care. We check the Today in Belichick folder for the latest in the greatest coach of all time and his Jordon problem. We touch on Luka's elimination from the NBA playoffs and speak with Texas Baseball Hall of Famer, Eric Nadel, on his upcoming Birthday Benefit and his path from minor league hockey to calling games for the Rangers for 5 decades. (00:00) - Open: A nails on the chalkboard convo (23:18) - Big Thursday Mailbag (45:38) - Sports: Luka eliminated and Today in Belichick (01:04:41) - News: Detectives need speed sometimes (01:19:40) - VM birthdays/Today in History (01:33:50) - Eric Nadel: From minor league hockey to the bigs ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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They were fighting over, I think, a woman. Just awesome. A tale as old as time. To Melvin, I say I just consider them all dirty and crooked. All black people? Pfft. Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright. Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright.

I never listen, I'm gonna listen. I wanna listen to the drums on you. Hello everybody, happy Thursday. It's put your garbage out night because you've got to remember for tomorrow morning. If you didn't remember Monday night and you're overloaded with garbage, that's not an anecdotal phrase at all. I'm Dan McDowell. I'm Jake Kemp.

I'm Blake Jones. Got a lot of garbage at the house. And we've got Clayton here as well and we are in our downtown Dallas studios at the Fox 4 building. How do you have a lot of garbage? You got a lightweight speedball operation running over there. We've been doing some cleaning. Yeah? We're spring cleaning. You don't have to get ready if you stay ready. Well I hope. This weekend I have that garage earmarked. You've seen my garage.

Well, the great thing about you is just too much. And that's why I said, if you guys need some little kids stuff, baseball bats. I may take you up on that. I've got 100 softballs. Dan's being humble, though. Dan's the guy who shows up to the job interview and is just like, my biggest weakness is I'm a perfectionist

His garage is fine His garage like that after I've been to your garage. He's got like he's got like an 80 to 90th percentile clean garage but That's not what he's about Can always get better can always get better Northeast, Ohio nothing but clean garages And people living in them. They have a lot of homeless. So I've reached a new low. I'm always trying to, you are, we are trying to get better. Like personal lives. One percent atomic habits every day.

Gotta hand it to Kat on that one. He recommended that book. Part of that, part of getting better, I think, is like my lists. Yeah, yeah. And I know you're a big list guy and you're seeing something on your list that I'm not doing. And you're like, hey, did you remember to do that? And that's helping me a lot. Cause I'm like, yeah, actually I put it back on, you know,

top of the list and all this. Hey, listen, I view it as you and I Eiffel Towering the show. But here's, here's where I think I fell to a new low. Like, for instance, today on the list, I wanted to remind myself, uh, 11-15, hang calendar in studio. So we have a show calendar. And I thought, you know, this should be hanging in our studio somewhere. So we have a show calendar and I thought you know what this should be hanging in our studio somewhere And it's the first of May Yeah, I thought this would be a great day for the world to see us dressed as the boys. That's a great one Rose and my mom

We're looking at this calendar this weekend and we had we went on a phone so that Rose could ask me questions about the calendar. This was one of them and they wanted to know who's the guy that we always dress up as a lady. My kids ask the same thing. It's a recurring theme. How have you become that guy? What do you mean?

The fact that you're homophobic would seem to mean that you wouldn't want to be that guy. And it would seem to mean that you wouldn't want to be that guy. And it would seem to mean that's why. Anyway, yeah, I love the calendar. But I'm only saying all this to say, so yeah, I had that on my list, so it's still there because I haven't really hung it up, but I actually got it out of the bag and I'm laying it here, so that's a good step to cross that off the list.

Like laundry. Yeah, if I move something across the house towards where I wanna put it away. You saw my method the other day. I have now done something. Yeah, I mean, you got a table, it's not being used. I'll fold the laundry throughout a day and then put it up. Yeah. Don't do it.

But anyway, I feel like this is a new low. I have never put have sex on the list But certainly we are all aware that there is Scheduled sex and I don't know how sometimes it's kind of an unwritten rule type thing, but you both know We're just not gonna be doing it until we're gonna have a free moment Saturday evening And that might be the next time we actually can have sex. Yeah, I agree. So you're kinda gearing up for it.

There is an unspoken thing. But you're in tannesters, how is it not? Nah, but everybody's always got something going on. Well, we just stopped having sex once you're opening up. But I'm just saying, I'm just pointing out a common thing that people think, oh, you put that on your schedule, sex is an odd one, right? Mm-hmm.

But as you grow up and you have a couple kids and whatever, you're like, actually, I'm now that guy. I have now scheduled sex. So what could this be? Well, no, but I scheduled this and I didn't complete the task until late last night, but it was a 7 a.m. because I knew I had to be in my bedroom for it to hit

or else I wouldn't do it. But it's like every day later in the day, I scheduled on my list cut fingernails. Yeah? Because it would be like at night and I'd be, oh man. So yeah, I actually had to schedule that. And then by last night, I had the little red next to it because I hadn't accomplished it by 7 a.m.

Yeah, no, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. So yeah, then I crossed it off and felt great. Well, I write down like, take my kid to school. I write down the whole day by time. Do you do it so that you can know what time I gotta leave and stuff? Yeah. Yeah. I can see that, yeah.

No, I'll tell myself leave for show at 10 a.m. If I don't write down- Then I'm like 10, 15 and I'm leaving. If I don't write down things like cut fingernails, it's not gonna happen, so that's a good one. But I don't cut my fingernails, though I just bite them. Is that not normal? You're not supposed to.

I don't bite my fingernails out of like anxiety or as a habit, but I trim them with my teeth. I rip them. You do rip them. That's fun. That's you get a little cut, then you pull. What? You guys don't do that?

What do you do the cut with? That's what we're fine. Nail clippers? With another nail. I mean, I guess I've done it. It's not efficient. But when people say- What is wrong with you two?

When people say they're going to clip their nails, that's what they mean. Last night I did with a clipper, but generally they get a little long, so then you give it a little saw. I don't like that. You saw it and then you peel it over here and then you peel it over here.

The problem with that is that, I guess like if you had a bad saw, the start of the cut is not gonna be as clean as the rest of it. Oh right, no, no. With your tooth you can kinda like give it a little straight line and then go across. I can't remember the last time I used fingernail clippers.

I've never toothed it. That's the only way I do it. Never been to it. I do it with my toenails too. We need to look at your calcium intake if you're able to cut nail with nail cause your nails should be stronger than that. Yeah well you got a little baby nail up there bitch.

What do you mean? You got a little baby nail, it takes vitamins. Your fingernail should be stronger than that. Yeah, well you got little baby nails up there, bitch. You got little baby nails, you can take some vitamins. Your fingernails should be stronger, it's like, what do you mean? Oh, you shouldn't be able to cut it? You shouldn't be able to cut it with your own fingers. Either you have superhuman strength or baby little fingernails.

I don't know, I think I'm gonna get a lot of support on this one. You might, I don't know. I just, I bite mine. I don't like to do that, because then you can rip it too far, and now you're ripping skin. Yeah, that can't be a problem. That's kind of the exciting part.

That's why I put on my list, cut fingernails. I don't want to be subjected to just ripping my nails there at night, and then just kind of throwing them somewhere. Yeah, there's nothing you can schedule, and I'm gonna be like, that's weird, nothing. And it's funny because when I was a kid, like my mom kind of used to dump on my dad a little bit for this,

because he would always call at the same time. And like, oh yeah, it's kind of just an appointment, but now that I'm older and I write down like, backyard 20 minutes with both kids, and I'm like, that's the only- How do you even schedule that? Well, it's just, now I know, like, backyard 20 minutes with both kids. And I'm like, that's the norm. Oh, you even schedule that. Well, it's just, now I know. Just to make sure.

I'll make sure. Read book with, I don't. They can have the illusion that you love them? That's right. When they grow up, like, oh, dad spent time with me. They'll never remember that, by the way. They're only gonna remember the few bad things that stood out in your whole,

they won't remember all the positive. This is what I've found. What if that is a you problem? It might be. And people. They got that Rolodex ready for the three bad things I've ever done. In the same way that you only remember the bad comments

from listeners, those are the ones that they remember off the top of their head, but if you actually think about it, it's better. And I'll tell you, my daughter I know is at memory phase. Not maybe too far into it, but six and a half, you're having memories. You'll remember this time. And a group of friends,

the group of friends where the spectrum flags were assaulted at the winery, they're going camping. It's like six families this Saturday. It's a quick trip. I think you get there at four, you're gone the next morning on Sunday. It's at Grapevine Lake. Are you going?

Well, and my wife is like beaten. She's out of town today. She's got a long week work, whatever. It's a Saturday where we don't have anything going on. She's like, I don't know, I'm finally doing this. And I'm like, dude, we gotta go. This is the sort of stuff that you don't just skip because it's a beating.

Ooh. Like your kid, like these are her best friends that she's been, she went to school with, now she doesn't see him anymore, and now they're getting together on a weekend, like you gotta give them that chance. If I were a kid and I knew my parents just didn't wanna go because they were beaten by it, I'd, WTF, mate.

So what's the sweat for me? Like I go out there, I'm gonna be in bed at 8.30 anyways, hit the early bird, shoot the shit with some people I don't know, and my kid will, small chance, remember that when she's like 20. So. Yeah, at least be able to say I went camping once. Yeah, especially if she gets killed by a snake

or I guess she wouldn't be able to say it. You don't hate camping, right? No. Okay. I got no objections. I don't have to cook. Everybody establish yourself as a guy who's not reliable on the grill pretty quickly

and a guy who will clean. There's always a guy who really wants to be the guy. And I'll be his counterpart. Yeah. I love that guy. And that guy knows you need anything, I'll go get it. I'll climb a mountain for you. I'll clean up.

Yeah. For sure. Know your it. I'll climb a mountain for you. I'll clean up. Yeah. For sure. Know your role. I did something earlier this week that I was telling Dan about yesterday, or whenever we spoke last. So I'm not a meal prep guy. I've never been able to fully knock it down.

Like, I am a factor guy, to be honest with you. We use factor, we don't get it cheaper, free. I'm a Factor customer. Someone else prep your meal. Yeah, and you know, we don't, Factor even then it's like six to eight meals a week. You need a little bit more, but I've never really fully meal prepped.

We try to be good about eating at home. It probably averages out to like two and a half, three nights a week, but I just feel like our shopping for meal stuff is poor. Like we got a bunch of stuff that's like, we have 50 spices and sauces here. What are we doing? So I know what I like. I know what vegetables and meat reheats good. Well, so I just hopped on the old Gemini, the Google AI, and I was like this is the spices and stuff that I have. These are the vegetables that I like reheated,

peppers and broccoli. These are the types of food I like. I have 15 minutes to cook each one of these meals. I need two servings for adults plus a little leftovers. And it just gave me a grocery shopping list, subtracting all the stuff I already had. And then I just made those four meals and ate them this week. Now I know that's simple, you could just do it on Google

and look up four recipes, but I wanted to like buy as little amount of stuff as possible. So, I just said as little as I can get for four meals for a vegetable, you know, whatever, meat, this. For whatever reason, the robot telling me to do it made it more straightforward, and I did it. And it worked out fine. You know, my mom's real old.

Yeah. As moms are. She mailed me a cookbook. Any particular theme to this cookbook? Yeah, it was like seafood cookbook. Was it Cheenos? Birthday present? I think it was just a seafood cookbook. Was it Chino's birthday present? I think it was just, yeah it might have been birthday.

It was pretty recent, so it could have been. But the point is... How many recipes down are we? None, zero. It's just a giant book too, you know? Oh yeah. It's like well-meaning. But what am I going to do with this? Let's say I make one or two of these ever.

She just saw a picture of a book with a fish on it and thought of you and got it. Oh, Dan, you like fish, here. Well, Danny likes fish. Spent a lot of money and then every weekend she will, because I call her every weekend and it's like, have you made anything from it yet? I gotta now look through it and at least lie.

Next time I talk to her, oh man, the shrimp. The shrimp scampi was to die for. You know, we may have just stumbled across something here. What's going on? Internet. Internet, exactly, but even in that era. I'll just search. What's going on with cookbooks?

Are they dead? I don't know, like I just feel like my grandmother's entire kitchen and cabinets were just. Oh 79 to 95, and they were huge. Yeah, and she'd use it all the time. She would, but there's no way they needed that many of them. Couldn't you just write down the one, practically, I know they didn't have a Google Doc to copy links to, but couldn't you just be like,

well, I have 80,000 recipes in here. Maybe I'll take the six and free up all this space that appears, they were everywhere and they weren't cheap. No. I remember buying them as gifts and being like, what the? See, that's part of the thing. Oh, what does grandma do? I don't know, let's get her a gift.

I don't know. Maybe she hated it. Yeah, she's probably like, God damn, why do I have a gift? At the risk of telling you. And I can't throw away one of these cookbooks. They come over here all the time. Little Jake got me, yeah.

I, at the risk of telling you a second straight TC story on the show that goes nowhere, one time his aunt thought that he was really into Looney Tunes and specifically Marvin the Martian. Who isn't? Like kind of like you with Superman and now he just like kept getting Marvin the Martian gear. Was like, what are we doing?

What are we, yeah. Like, yeah, somewhere somebody can come across the idea. The Tri-Chad GPT. Shumba Wumba cassette tape. Come across the idea. What was it? Chumbawumba cassette tape. Was that it? That my dad's new wife got me for Christmas one year. That's a good one. What is this?

Somehow she got the impression that I was into Chumbawumba. I think it was the... Is that the... I get knocked down. I get up again. You don't know that song, Blake? the? I get knocked down. I get up again. I get up again. I get up again. And I'm like. You don't know that song, Blake?

Yeah, I know that. Okay. Why isn't that, why isn't that at sports more? Cause it's kind of like a loser song. You don't hear that much in the arena. More just like that pedophile. Gary Glitter? Gary, yeah.

Yeah. So, use Chad GPT or Gemini for everything. No. Is what I'm telling you. Every issue I have on my computer, every issue I have of like, well what do I do about this in my home, immediate. Immediate.

Hey ChadGPT, are the tariffs good? Do you like that on Twitter? The hey Grok, what is? Oh yeah, I guess I missed that. I've never done, is this true? Is Trump this or that? It seems to have a little toot to it also.

Or who's the most, hey Grok, who's the most, who peddles the most erroneous information? It'll be like yes, Elon Musk, blah blah blah blah. Cool, Colbert. How are these real people? Like they're just walking around living like that. What, just yelling all day long? Yeah.

You know you're one step removed. You're asking how to cook your food. Next, you're gonna be fact checking with it. That's not even close to using it to try to dunk on someone. Oh, speaking of politics, that's not really politics, but I finished, I told you that's not really politics but I finished I told you I I told you I listened to it but I hadn't finished the whole thing

but I finished this morning the Harper Weaver is it mm-hmm is it Weaver? It is. Okay is running for like Plano School Board and Jake interviewed him a couple weeks ago it's on a Business Wednesday if if you go back. And it's really good. And yeah, really, some of the stuff in there is really surprising. So I would say give Harper a chance. Go look at what he's got going on. Probably nobody cares about school boards

and you just don't vote for stuff. No, but I mean, if you want to hear my, and a lot of people right now are just like, I'll turn down, my small rant on it would be, I mean, you want to hear my and a lot of people right now are just like I'll turn down my small Rant on it would be I mean you can vote Saturday May 3rd. That's what that's interesting that you have Saturday voting For that but not for the national election. Yeah, so early voting concluded. I voted Tuesday and Yeah, I planos huge the school board handles a lot of money

Plano's huge, the school board handles a lot of money, but it's a representative of several different pockets of the Metroplex where there's just the school board turmoil because of changing economics and demographics. And I don't think it makes me like some liberal, socialist, Marxist to say, when the finances get balanced on those decisions, the chopping block, it's usually lower income or socioeconomic strata families that go to the chopping block first. And that just shouldn't be that way, especially if with data you could back up and prove it's

not even really saving you any money to fuck them. If you could sell me on that. No, that was his thing. He's just a big data guy, but he's not even really saving you any money to fuck him. Like, if you could sell me on that. No, that was his thing. He's just a big data guy, but he's not like a... I don't wanna say he doesn't have a personality. Like, he's just not a bombastic personality that sometimes helps if you are running for office or something, but you know, you're... I don't know that he's a quant,

but he's just like a logical guy. He is a quant. He very much is a quant, but he's just like a logical guy. He is a quant. He very much is a quant, but he's passionate also. It was interesting how he just had said, you know, he's just a parent in that district, and they sent a thing out saying, hey, we're going to do this. These are the facts. If you have any, if anybody wants to comment on it or opinion on what we're doing here, please send us some info." So he actually looked into it, because he's a quant, I guess, found quite a bit of a financial

like, hey, this isn't good, put together like a 19 page thing for them, sent it to them, and then they rushed a vote as soon as they could. They didn't expect anybody to... I don't know, it was interesting. It's interesting. I mean, we saw what't expect anybody to, I don't know, it was interesting. So. It's interesting, I mean, we saw what happened in Keller. But I don't wanna. You know, where that situation blew up in their face to a point where, if I heard or read correctly

the other day, you know, like the Republican House in Texas put in a law preventing school districts from trying to do what they did. That's how bad they failed. And that deal was going to be done behind closed doors. So there's lots of stuff like this. And we talked about that lady who was releasing those doves the other day in my district, Tammy Nakamura,

who by the way, not that this is a Kim spin of any sort by the way, but I did get sent to me the one or two episodes she did 20 years ago of wife swap with a black family, and it's hilarious. Whoa. But she's now on the school board in Grapevine. She's about to be re-elected, I would imagine. And what I was telling you is about Patriot Mobile,

that company, they fund her, and several other candidates all over DFW. And on its face, you're like, oh, it's gross. Like I said, they're just, this cell phone company can just give money to these candidates. But it's just smart. It's just deciding that changing things at a local level mean more to you.

So for someone like Harper, he's got an incredible world-class data brain and could probably work for the government or something, you know? Or some private equity. I mean, he did, that's why he was able to retire. But he's applying that to this. He's retired? I mean, he doesn't need to work right now.

He's like 30. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I went and voted Tuesday and it was a chill time. I know before, you guys have noted that I've had. Well, I didn't vote and I just wanna let everybody know you don't have to vote. You don't have to vote. If you want to, you can vote for Hart. But I didn't vote and I just want to let everybody know you don't have to vote. You don't have to vote. If you want to you can vote for Hart. I didn't get any arguments. I didn't

I didn't roll on anything and get yelled at or yell at anyone like before. Just just chill vote. Are you gonna be the 70 year old guy who's at the thing taking people's IDs? It's not a zero percent chance. Okay. It's not zero. I've just always thought, who is this person? They have nothing to do. They have all day, yeah. Yeah. All right, listen, we got a lot to do

because we got Eric Nadel late in the show. So that's what we're going to do. Doing things a little out of order if you care. So we'll do news and today in history before Eric Nadel joins us in a little over an hour. But I know we've got some sports, we got today in Belichick. Oh my gosh.

Because there's just so much. But you want to start with some kind of a mailbag? Yeah, let's do it. Would you want it to be brought to you by some kind of an HVAC company? Not just some kind. a mailbag? Yeah, let's do it. Would you want it to be brought to you by some kind of an HVAC company? Not just some kind. Community Mechanical, they were actually out at my place last week and yesterday we had a full day

of business meetings and I did those business meetings in the office and I was able to do that because Community Mechanical made it to where I can have heating and air. What they put in. A mini split. Okay, I was talking to Travis yesterday, yeah, he said mini split.

You know what that is? I was like, cool, that sounds great. Yeah, I have no idea what it is. No, I don't know what it is either. All I know is that it's perfect, like it's out of the way. They did it in a way that it's as concealed as possible. It's just, it's not like real bulky, it's not- They're big listeners to-

Wires everywhere, it's awesome. Everyone's splits used to be huge. I do, but not now, not with communitydfw.com. Oh, it's like Minnie? It's Minnie. It's like Dr. Evil and the little one. Anyway. Dude, did you just reference Austin Power?

Minnie me. Yeah, I know. The word Minnie. That goes with this. That's really funny. The word mini. That goes with this. That's really funny. Everybody's laughing. They're big fans of the show.

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they will give you $50 in dumb zone merch and then if you buy a new system they'll they'll pay for a sit-in where you can sit in studio with us Wow and is there even a price on that well yeah I mean you'll get to show up and you hear more Austin Powers jokes you get a new system how do you get ahold of CommunityDFW? CommunityDFW.com, CommunityDFW.com. What's the phone number, Dan? 469-667-729-0. You can text them day or night.

They said they got a lot of business from that. You got free on ho. Text campaign I was on. So try it again text Travis four six nine six six seven seven two nine oh did you give all the numbers okay I don't know what it into a note the Thursday viewer mail follow-up extravaganza inclement fossil thing. Well, I do have a few sports emails I want to get to, but I'm pretty sure we were all copied on these

after our talk about 100 men versus one gorilla. Got a lot of response, and we are gonna talk to our resident animal fighting expert Bradley Folsom, I think next week, but he's a pro. He's a prof. Yeah, he's doing finals right now So we did get a lot of response about that and a couple of them were similar one from Chris one from Michael I'll listen to I'll read Chris's here. I think I like our odds, the 100 men, as long as we have that dude who fingered

that dog's butthole on the team. If you recall recently. Ooh, that's a great one. Blake showed us a video of a story, I think it might have been from across the pond, where a big dog was attacking a smaller dog, and nobody in the park could get it to drop it, until a hero rushed in and started fingering the dog's butthole at like a pneumatic speed.

So if somebody can get to that that ape's ass. That's the problem. Yeah. They're very protective of their bodies. Michael added that's how you beat the gorilla one dude has to be willing and I guess eager to robo finger the beast as soon as the gorillas Eyes roll back the remaining 99 can finish him off so to speak well again our communication skills the ability to work together Should should be important here and to be able to identify which person is going to do what thing. Yeah, I mean-

The problem is who's going to take the first hits. You think that's what it comes down to? It's a problem. So if we had the Marines, maybe we're good. What did Micah Parsons say when he was asked if he could beat us all up at the same time on a ticket stock stage? Was I last or was I first?

Like, because I was not a threat, I was either last or first and I can't remember. Like, does he wanna take out the tough guy first? That's a good question. I can't remember what he had said. I don't recall. Like does he want to take out the tough guy first? That's a good question. I can't remember what he had said. I don't recall either. Another one here, this is a sports email because we talked about Shador the other day

but then I jammed up our draft segment with a mislob. We do have plenty of time to talk about Shador. I just cut off the segment, we had more Shador. And Chris emailed. This is his thoughts, I like it. Deion convinced everyone from himself, the media, and his son that he was a sure first rounder. Everyone nodded and agreed, except for actual NFL teams. He didn't fall from a first rounder,

he never was a first rounder anywhere but in our minds due to the media believing the hype from Deion. Is he as bad as a fifth? Probably not, but that's where Deon convincing his son he's a sure fire first rounder comes in. His son decided to only interview with a few teams. He didn't work out at the combine, didn't go to the pro day at the Big 12, blah, blah, blah.

A lot of things that other teams would want a good, not great QB to do. The world's expectations were set too high, and then Shador didn't do the things the other QBs did to endure himself to NFL teams. That's like a really, I think that's a really concise way to put it, is that the hype machine was self-fulfilling. Because once you think,

boy, there's like five QB needy teams in the first half of the first round and I'm QB one or two here. Maybe you don't. Maybe you do show up a little more FU attitude. But. The thing is, are you sure you're one or two? Well, that's what I'm saying is that

nobody seems to have ever thought that but them. Like all these interviews and all these things I'm reading in the aftermath are like every team is saying, we never told anyone that. We never thought that. But Dane Bruegler and Mel Kuyper. Obviously Mel Kuyper. And here's the thing.

It was a very vocal one this weekend. As crazy as this sounds, I agree with the public. I think he's considerably better than Dylan Gabriel. And you know, I saw some people yesterday push back on Milro, but it's- That's where we get into other stuff then. Right. The president tweeting about him.

Yeah, the president tweeting about him and- Dion's constant presence, looming presence, which is different than if you were complaining about the mannings weren't treated like, there wasn't this constant thing with archmanning. But not only is there this, that's the part we talked about the other day, but there's also going to be a thing where,

and he seems like he's handling it great, but you're also gonna have to deal with a guy who five days ago thought he was going in the top 10 of the draft. And now is this. It's not just like the Dion factor, it's that the whole thing is super weird and he and his family created it.

There's no other reason that he would have been expecting to go that high. So now it just became a story and he didn't prepare for the draft because he thought he'd go higher. He didn't go to test and do this and that and this and that. So probably he would have gone in like the third round. I wonder if they miscalculated in the not working out at the combine to well that could only hurt him because he's like one of the top two or three

players. Exactly. When it actually might have actually helped him. From the bottom to top, them thinking we have this in the bag is why he went in the fifth round. And it's just a really fascinating draft story. I got one entitled subject line wife guy. Yes. Y'all are wrong about wife guys, at least partially. I know two wife guys that are like that, and one is because he cheated, like you always say.

But the other is because she cheated on him. They were going to get a divorce. The next thing we know, they're reconciled and more in love than ever before. And he has gone full wife guy. Tons of lovey-dovey posts and constant we're so happy pictures, like a newlywed couple, even though they've been together forever. And everyone knows.

Sometimes the wife guy phenomenon is just to play defense against her doing it again, because now she's getting that constant admiration that she lacked before which quote drove her into the other guy's arms. Damn son. Somebody cheated but it's not always him. That's interesting. That is interesting and I just uh I guess I would rec I would just say stop short of everything being public I guess I would just say stop short of everything being public. But if I guess the cheating part is public, then the wife guying part needs to be public. Because all your love for your wife, because that happened, just do it behind closed doors.

See, I don't lose respect for a guy if he stays with a lady who cheated on him. No. Because I'm thinking he's got a card. He's got something in his pocket. You know, whether it's... Leverage a card. It's got something in his pocket You know whether it's leverage Huh leverage? Yeah over overtly stated or not and then if he ever does stray You think society honey, I mean you know how it is Do you think society will ever get to a point where it's like open marriage is just common? maybe Will society ever get to a point where open marriage is just common? Maybe.

That feels like one of those things that we're not really any closer to than we were. I mean people get divorced and stuff now, but that's not... Is it common? I think we read more about it now than we ever have. Well, we're also... It's more common to have kids out of wedlock and all that. For sure. Then you might be just kind of dating.

Interestingly enough, it feels like a new age idea. It's actually a very old idea. But, and we have a remote coming up with the two wife guy. From Scenario. Oh yeah, I can't wait. They're gonna be there, I think. Therefore, they're all three gonna be there. That is correct.

I just want the two there I got a quick follow-up here from Katie on the man who got tased me brode At love field that we were talking about so the story has reported and the story I saw was that the guy was in line About to get on a plane you can tell he's through security and two plane clothes officers stop him and they say We think you're someone we have a warrant for drugs for and he gets pissed off But doesn't really freak out. He just is saying no and They tased him and that's why he wants an apology. He did have a warrant for a traffic Citation it was not the warrant they were looking for

So she said for a traffic citation. It was not the warrant they were looking for. So she said, it wasn't resisting, he was talking to officers. This is Katie standing with his hands by his side. It claimed he was someone they thought had drugs or a warrant for drugs. He's a chef from Frisco and was taking food to his elderly mom in another state.

So, to rewind the tape here, I just started thinking, you're standing there about to get on a plane. Let's say you got your family with you. Backpack on, roller suitcase, and two dudes in just, you know, Under Armour shirts with a little badge come up and they're like, we think you have a warrant for drugs, you're coming with us. Right.

I know what I need to do is immediately comply, but I'm even at my best, probably. This is gonna be a minute long interaction here before I'm just walking away like, sounds good? Especially if I'm not a drug dealer. Yeah. You know, if I was, then I might be like, hey, I have a lawyer for this, let's go.

And we call my drug dealer lawyer. But if I'm just a guy, I feel like there's gonna be some resisting. At least verbally. Paid for early boarding? Oh, I know, you're like, hey, group two? So fuck this up for me? So yeah, I don't know.

Like when we did the story, it was like, how's this guy demanding an apology? And I don't know like when we did the story was like how's this guy demanding an apology and I Don't know I mean, I don't know that I would get to a point of needing to be tased But I've never been in that situation before What would you do I Don't know man, I don't know well, apologize. It must not have been a very interesting question No, I just I just don't know. Yeah

No, I just I feel like I would in my old days would have been tased probably because I would have been lit at the airport I mean even just my my disposition would instinct get away to not get tased Right above all. It's also not to be told what to do, right? But I think told what to do wins out over getting tased. If you can start to smell it's going in this direction or whatever. Yeah. You know, with any interaction, my instinct

is usually, how do I get out of this interaction as quick as I possibly can? Which goes with talking to the wife or just whatever's happening. I just don't, I don't want it to keep going on. Sex, scheduled sex, all right. I'm thinking of everything good. This was a comment on our Patreon from Alex.

We were talking about that dude who hit four million miles the other day. Is that why we can't remember baseball stats anymore? We're just not thinking about them anymore. Right, as a kid, you're younger, you're thinking of baseball and... To be honest with you... Dead people in front of you or something,

just something to make you not as fired up. When's the last time you tried to hit from farm to table organic beet? Just no image at all. Oh Jesus, dude. You won't be able to do it. Yeah. It's not happening.

Everyone listening, go home tonight. What if you did like an Aaron Rodgers. Put that stopwatch on. I've done it recently. Okay. Because 5 a.m. workout investment stocks, portfolios guys said to do it and so I tried it. Yeah?

And for about 30 minutes I had superpowers. So right after you dunk your face in ice and squeeze women on yourself and take your creatine, you just hit a straight up grass-fed organic beat. Feel great. It would take me half an hour. I might need a thumb. I've got one from Cam.

Hold on, let me finish this story real quick. I started the Patreon one before you brought up baseball. The guy who did 4 million miles, a CDL guy, this guy said that he had a good friend who was a CDL and they would put a star on your cab for certain million mile markers, like three million. And for his friend, when he hit three, they named a star after him. Oh, okay.

That's like the worst thing you could ever get. Yeah. It is, it is the worst, right? Like, do we need to do, I'm sure someone's done it, but do we need a hang, a dumb zone investigates or something on the star registry? But just, just tell me the- Like they're not still doing it now, are they?

I don't know. It feels like that was a thing you would see on TV a lot. Feels like an easy grift. The guy- Right, and it's an easy gift. Oh look, I gave this- The guy who left this comment on Patreon- I didn't buy the star, I named it after you.

The guy on Patreon said that you can actually do this and become a lord of a plot of land in Scotland. And it got me to thinking. I've probably had five listeners now ask me for the address of Dan's Hot Springs property. And out of somewhat awkwardness and laziness, I haven't asked Dan, but it just made me think, why wouldn't they just ask Dan?

So I was like, is there some weird reason? But we need to sell that plot inch by inch. Okay. Or square foot by square foot. And we'll go grid it out, and you can have your own square foot by square foot. And we'll go grid it out and you can have your own square foot and you can be a Duke, a Duke of McDowell land in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Well, they have to contribute to the,

cause it's like a monthly, Yeah, you'll get 40 bucks a month just to have a piece of land. You'll get dig four or five pennies to be a part of our I was paying the Feudal system. Property assessment last week. Talking to the guy on the phone like,

it seems weird, I just gotta pay for this year after year. That seems like a For nothing. Giant. The guy goes, yeah. Does seem weird, doesn't it? Seem weird. What's your credit card number?

You'll hear later about a company that can help you take care of that, folks. Yeah, no doubt. Cam sent something in for Jake. It's a funny movie recommendation. It's called Black Bald, the Bobby Duke story, and it's a mockumentary style paintball movie. Oh my God.

That sounds amazing. Basically the whole cast of Children's Hospital, I think the whole show will enjoy, from Cam, who blessed our Venmo. This is crazy. Well, you've sold me on it with the cast of Children's Hospital. Rob Cordray, that guy's name, is it Paul Scheer?

Is that how he says his name, the Gappy's guy? Yeah, this is interesting. Okay, consider it BM'd. Anna Kay weighs in regarding me killing a cow and it's the answer you think it is. She says, no way, you can't kill a cow with your bare hands. Sorry bud, no matter what you do to subdue it, it'll just piss it the eff off. Well, she's the expert on how to kill animals.

She is the expert on how to kill animals. But, I've thought about this one a lot more I wonder what oh we already did it with chat GPT and he was like it's been but you see Blake that's immediately where my brain went it's bad to kill problem yeah like when I was like I think I just asked it hey what's the quickest way for me to kill this cow with my bare hands it was like you shouldn't do that that That's funny about that. It won't even answer that.

I was talking to our guy from Fitness Pack the other day. He created that app. And we got a spot for him next week. We're not doing the spot now, but the point is, he asked me for feedback on the app and I said, I think you should be able to get a taste on it. Because you had to pay like $2.99 for one month to even try the app.

And I said, without knowing what it is, it's hard to do that. Like even for me, you know, we're promoting the app and I'm like, it's hard to convince someone to just spend money on it. You need a free taste. You need a little... And so they're going to create a promo code, and I said, well, make it dumb zone. And he goes, okay. Well, then he texted me back or emailed us later, and he's like, yeah, you can't make

dumb... The word dumb can't be in your promo code, like on Google Play or whatever he's setting it up through. I was like, really? So we're deciding is it gonna be DZ something or whatever, but the point is that's dumb. It is dumb. Right?

What about like Clit Commander? That should be the promo code Clit. I got one here from Melvin just keeping us honest Melvin says we were talking about the story recently of how did John Wiley Price come up our man downtown our man downtown I don't remember somebody in jail yeah and he said John Wiley Price has not been to jail for anything like Dwayne Caraway or like some of those other former Dallas council members. As far as I can remember he's only been charged and on trial but has never been

convicted. He said it's not that big of a deal but in this polarized world I don't want people thinking all black politicians have been to jail or convicted. Peace out, Melvin. Alright, so if we have to read all our corrections then to the show, then I just do want to say that John Daly never won the Masters. Oh shoot, I forgot about that one. But it did remind me though.

I've gotten at it. A popular reason why these two get conflated, not just that they're both black and in Dallas. Do you remember when they got in that actual fight at that gospel radio station? Yes. It was 10 years ago next year. Just a magical moment.

Like if that had showed up. Do we have that audio? The wire. We might. I don't know, I remember the audio being pretty crazy. Let's see if this will play. Go on, Lamar, play. Go on, Lamar. Play. Don't know I remember the what the audio being pretty crazy. Let's see if this will play This is on the studio

Really beeped you know there are they beeping out there and they were fighting this because this is from like the news is report They were fighting over. I think, a woman. It's just awesome. A tale as old as time. To Melvin, I say I just consider them all dirty and crooked. All black people? Pfft! Oh yeah, I like that. Brought to us by...

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about Luca, Luca's out. My opinion on Luca overall is look, the second the trade was made, the second they were doing the deal, while Rob Palinka is trying to keep a straight face and looking for the punked cameras. This is an Anthony Davis prank show, isn't it? What am I doing here?

There's absolutely no way there's a guy offering me Luca for Anthony Davis if Anthony Davis isn't behind it as a print, like. Now tell him we don't have to send pics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, as he was making that trade, he's like, this is a trade for the next 10 years of this franchise. Yeah.

This is a trade to keep us relevant. I have a real NBA superstar, one of the top handful of players in NBA, maybe one of the top 10 in the history of this whole league right now. So certainly the roster isn't built for this, but one of the easier jobs in sports is to be a GM of a team with a superstar that you can build around and Rob Polenka now gets to be that guy. Nico Harrison is no longer that guy. It's not going to be that easy to build a team around an aging Anthony Davis, especially

one that you already had crafted around one type of a player. So that's what I think. They did lose. The only reason anybody was even trying to squint and say the Lakers could be a Dark Horse candidate is because of the incredible basketball IQ of Luca and LeBron and put them together and like they can figure things out. But in the end, I think the lack of talent was just too much. Lack of talent, lack of fit, lack of cohesion. I'm pretty unbothered by this stuff.

Probably the up and down of the whole year, the emotion of the whole year, too, everything. I know that there are people who've made it their weird thing to align with Nico and just be like, f, Luca, I'm tired of watching that guy, this is what we were saying all along, whatever. The weird thing to me is a lot of the people that are saying that, towards the MAV season wrapping up,

it was nothing but, man, if they just had more time, man, if they had Kyrie, this could work. The people who are still riding with the MAVs, I'm like, maybe the trade made sense, you get defense, AD, like this. If you just had some time and you had Kyrie healthy, which is true, but they don't do that for the Lakers. That team is not supposed to be playing together.

That team is a disaster. And I don't say this like snarkily, but as cool as JJ Reddick is, he got his ass handed to him. And it's kind of a Jerry Jason Garrett thing where I don't really know who's to blame, the person who bought the ingredients or the person who cooked the meal, but I don't know that, you know, John Wooden could have coached that team. They don't have a roster. They have like four or five guys.

I mean, I swear to God, dude, when I started watching Jackson Hayes back in February on a two or three night a week basis, I thought to myself, Dwight Powell should be in the goddamn Hall of Fame. And you know what? While we're at it, put Brandon Wright in there from 2012, 2013, because those guys made dunking a basketball look easy and just standing near the rim. So they end up playing Dorian a zillion minutes at five, and now instead of the guy who's there when Luca gets blown by time and time again being PJ Washington, Derek Jones Jr., Reggie Bullock, Prime Dorian,

now it's 40 year old LeBron and Austin Reeves. Nobody ever said he was a perfect player, you know? He's gotta have a roster built around him in the same way that just about everybody this side of maybe Giannis, and even Giannis, needed Drew Holiday after already having Chris Middleton. Michael Jordan needed a roster around him, dude. The unique thing about Luca is that I think he's gonna be,

when it's all said and done, considered the best basketball player with the worst defense of all time. However high you wanna put him, like seven, eight all time, he'll be the worst, it'll just be, because everybody above him, maybe even like Steph Curry, was passable defensively at some, you know, was more than passable. So, he's a little unique in that regard.

That you kind of got to do a little work around the edges. I mean, Dirk. Dirk is a great example. That's why Dirk is where he is. You had to build that roster around him. Yes, you had to have. Because he had serious defensive problems. So yeah, that's what's weird about it

is that those same people that are like, look at Luca, can't defend Scrubb. Those people spent 20 years of their life being like, dude, Dirk is awesome. They don't have the right type of guy for his awesome. And even Dirk knows Luca's better than Dirk is awesome, they don't have the right type of guy for his awesome. And even Dirk knows Luke is better than Dirk. Signed and shipped. So yeah, but Reddick, man, Reddick had a weird,

I listened to his press conference afterward. Look, I think he learned, he's a first year head coach. And just like first year players, or once they're in the playoffs, learn like coaching in the playoffs is also different. Got to shorten the bench, got a you know it's a chess match back and forth you know like he's going to learn that he's probably going to continue to make mistakes next year in the year after in the playoffs yeah and

it's a gift and curse right I mean on one hand it's way better than taking over like the Hawks yeah but on the other you know it's not better than taking over the Hawks. Yeah. But on the other, it's not easy to just roll in and deal with LeBron, not deal with, but manage. And you're in LA, and now the pressure's even, I think it was high before. Sure. Somebody, KJ was in our group chat this morning,

we on Spoh watch? After they got? No, but after, yes, but for the, how, did the Lakers? AJ was in our group chat this morning like, we on Spoh watch? After they got? No, but after, yes, but like for the, how, did the Lakers? Steel Spoh? Why not? They could, they're probably in it with Radek for a while. I don't see them getting rid of him.

He also got destroyed. If Rudy Gobert gets 27 and 24 against your team and is able to stay on the floor in the fourth quarter, you got out coached. You figure it out. I wanna do Today in Belichick. Yeah, Today in Jordan. Because yes, all this came out like yesterday.

I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't believe we're not doing a show. A New York Post article hit because yes, all this came out. Sorry, live stream, stream sorry what are you doing you're watching our stream watching you on here I was trying to how am I looking I was trying to read I was thinking to go and hat off because I went and got a head shave yesterday and I wanted to give our audience head okay and the the thing they burned off my head.

Oh yeah. Quite there. Nice dude. It's still kind of like there. You're looking great. And then I got this other one over here that's still falling off. But yeah, old man spot.

Want me to go head off? Head off for this? Yeah, so the emails come out. The New York Post article, how Jordan Hudson, 24, amassed $8 million real estate portfolio within months of meeting Bill Belichick. Okay. I love how they write this article. Bill Belichick's spry girlfriend, Jordan Hudson,

has amassed this portfolio with about $8 million, all within months of the fisherman's daughter meeting the 73 year old ex-patriots coach. So I love Spry, fisherman's daughter. So you're kind of painting her to be this like a little pauper, right? Mm-hmm. Probably wore like some kind of a sack to, you know, they fashioned that into a dress for her for school. An urchin.

Yeah. Hudson24 bought three multifamily homes across the Boston area in December 2023 for about $7.5 million, inking millions of dollars in mortgage agreements within days. Documents reviewed by Realtor.com show. That sounds a fish. Those hefty purchases, I love just the adjectives they use. That's a hefty purchase. Came about 18 months after the former cheerleader and beauty pageant concessant began dating the six-time Super Bowl winning coach. Let's see. Oh, Hudson raised in Hancock, Maine, the parents who ran a fishing business that went bankrupt after their fishing grounds were closed in 2000.

Her mother eventually moved to Provincetown on Cape Cod where she manages a sex toy shop. All right. And museum. Okay. So is it a sex-based museum or is it like the- Let's find out. Are we just looking at the great works of Van Gogh over here? But over here you can have a blow-up doll.

In fact, we have a Van Gogh blow-up doll with the scream. Is it Van Gogh who did the scream? Someone did the scream. Do you even know what the scream is? The Wilhelm scream? Oh no, the painting. Yeah. Anyway, that's a blow-up doll that you can get that, and you can... I think it's a really good joke. I'm just trying to find this store. So she is teaching Bill a thing or two, seems like.

The football star and the cheerleader are said to have met on a flight from Boston to Florida, but the pair have never publicly confirmed the stories, and the subject appears to be a sore spot for them based on their abrupt response to a question about their, this is for you. We're not talking about this.

After, based on her abrupt response to a question about their meet-cute. Ha ha ha ha. Julie told us about that. From CBS host Tony D'Coupil. She did. D'Coupil, during the CBS interview, described Hudson as a constant presence during our interview.

And then there's more in this article about how they had revealed that Belichick had requested Hudson be cc'd on all emails with University of North Carolina for external affairs and strategic communications. And then it ends with Belichick broke up with his longtime girlfriend in September 2023. Linda Holliday was 60 at the time, so he got considerably younger. That's not all. Well, that's all from that story. Yeah. Because CBS and the University of North Carolina are now going back and forth. Because the University of North Carolina released a Belichick statement where he's complaining about the fact that he said

he agreed to speak to promote my new book. We were clear that I would focus solely on the contents of the book. Unfortunately, the expectation was not honored during the interview. I was surprised when unrelated topics were introduced. Repeatedly I expressed this to the reporter and the producers that I preferred to keep the conversation centered on the book. After this occurred several times, Jordan, with whom I share both a personal and professional relationship, stepped in to reiterate that point to help refocus the discussion.

She was not directing any specific question or topic, but simply doing her job, as he would say. To ensure the interview stayed on track, some of the clips may make it appear as though we were avoiding the question of how we met. But we have been open about the fact that Jordan and I met on a flight to Palm Beach in 2021. The final eight minute segment does not reflect

the productive 35 minute conversation we had, which covered a wide range of stuff. 2021? Yeah, that's what he says. When they met? Which would make her 20 years old, right? Yeah, yeah, I thought she was 21 maybe, but I would've said 22.

It's been a while, man. She's been lurking. Yeah, so there was some overlap between the 60 and the now 24. She was lurking, but in previous situations, there was nothing really for her to take over. There was no power vacuum, and now she's got a NECO spot. I'm not saying you gotta be a rocket scientist

to be in public relations, but there is a way to do it. And there is a understanding of psychology, and those people know what they're doing this lady's a dumbass I mean she just has like an extremely dynamite pussy obviously as Danny's grandpa or whatever would say and she doesn't know she uses the word up most the then there's another article yesterday that dropped from the Athletic yesterday. I didn't feel like I learned anything new. No, no, no.

I was going to say a lot of that is stuff you've already talked about, but it was about how Jordan... They did more investigative reporting and were pretty much just confirming, yes, it's because of her that the NFL decided we're not going to do this hard knocks thing because she's too much. You know what I thought the most interesting part of that story was? Was that the NFL was talking to North Carolina because they're having a hard time or were having a hard time, I'm not sure now, finding an NFL team and they were just going to run that instead. Yeah. That's what they meant. That's what it made it sound like.

I mean maybe it's like that every year. Maybe it's kind of like the we finally have a chance to get Belichick, we've wanted him for 20 years. That's a good point too, because he would definitely always be in a position to say no, but she sounds awful, that email that she put out is really weird. You didn't read any of that, did you?

That was from Belichick, right? Yeah. Do you have that? No, I didn't read any of that, did I? It's basically, it's an email that she wrote, or that she shared that he wrote. And it's just really strange. But it's complaining about media coverage,

which I guess is related to an article, but we don't know what article. It was sent shortly after a Boston Globe article about his book, but the article's not negative. It's largely just focused on how great he is. It's a really weird thing, man. If you read the email, he's also really, he's just pissed off about how,

everyone's talking about how I effed up, how I effed up. Because I guess he gave that quote in the book of about one specific decision in this book. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's mad about that, like, oh, of course that's what the media's doing, and you guys are just letting him.

And all this, he has like, it's a weird, Trumpy sounding thing where he's like, yeah, I guess that's their agenda, rather than talking about, and I thought this was really weird, rather than talking about how when I took over the Patriots, they were worth whatever, and now they're worth whatever.

Right. And then he said, and I won six Super Bowls. It's like talking like a business guy. And then he said, Ann, I won six Super Bowls. He's like talking like a business guy. And then Jordan tweeted that out, his girlfriend with a musical note, and then it says Taylor Swift, look what you made me do. So it's like, I didn't wanna show this to everybody, but I'm going to.

You see what else there is? Like a little still shot of an interview. Appears to be, like she's got some footage to release. Ooh. You know, but whatever dude. Like she did. Yeah, whatever, but I'll read it and I'll watch it, so. I'll read it, but what I heard about,

what's interesting is that I've read a couple reviews of the book and people are like, this is just, this is a boring book. There's no, if you thought there was gonna be explosive stuff, it's not that. It's a business book by Belichick on how to be a great leader, which you, I think, would be very interested in.

But there's nothing in there where he's like, yeah, I walked in while Robert Kramp was getting jacked off and it's not that. Brady sucks. Yeah. The news today will be brought to us by One Day Doors and Closets. Got a email last week from DF number 190.

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Man in Denton Is facing for Orson charges. These are fires that were set in December and January. December 24, January 25 up in the Denton area. What we appear to have here is something that was right there with quicksand and the like when I was a kid. People to be worried about, people to be worried about,

things to be worried about. We got a pyro. Had that term entered the discourse when you were a little kid? Oh my gosh. You're like, oh dude, he's a pyro. Yeah. I was concerned about myself at times.

Yeah, I could see that. Am I a pyro? Yeah, you give pyro. Yeah. So, there are four different fires, I believe, that were set by this one guy. The first one was middle of the night, December 17th, at a restaurant.

Building had significant damage, no one injured. The next day, at night, it was just listed as a structure, but he lit like an apartment, I think it was like an apartment complex on fire, and two older people, 103 and 83 years old, died in that fire. 103? Yeah, 103 year old and an 83 year old.

103. Yeah, 103-year-old and an 83-year-old. In like an apartment complex or senior living place. That's fire two. Fire three at a daycare, 30 weeks later in January. And the footage of that one, you can see him breaking a glass window with a stone that he picks up. Then he sprays some liquid through a window and he just flicks a lighter, the building just goes.

No one injured in that one. So yeah, a restaurant, a daycare, what I think is a senior living facility, which got him. How'd they catch him? Video, just video. Similar similar manner starting the fires and then I assume just yeah I think that'd be a fun part of being a detective it's kind of piecing together like okay we've got this person at this building on this video

let's get all the traffic cameras, let's get the, just participating in the surveillance state I think would be very fun. Then the first time you meet him, you're just kinda like judging how he acts. Yeah. Once you mention. Yeah. Yeah, we're investigating these fires.

Yeah, you guys caught up on gemstones by any chance? No. It's good. I'm a couple behind. I'm still very in on it. Yeah. They gave BJ a monkey, if you haven't. Oh, I'm into that. Okay.

I'm on the episode where the wife is jealous of the monkey. Yeah. That's the next one after they give him a first hit. That's so good. after they give them, give them a first hit. Oh, that's so good. Speaking of Denton County, on the board, first case of measles. That's good. Bringing it into 2025, like what?

This feels like slow COVID. It does. Remember that? It was one in Seattle, then the first one in Texas, and then all of a sudden everybody gets it and you brought it over. So on April 20th and April 19th April 19th and 20th they were visiting from West Texas. On April 19th they started the day at Pretty Burrito in Flower Mound, which I'm not aware of, but sounds delightful.

Yeah. This might have been a two for breakfast type morning, you know, Dan will go to two places for you. Also at Donut Plaza from 10 to noon that Saturday. And then it was time for some baseball as they attended the Rangers Dodgers game after being at Rangers Republic at Texas Live for three hours in the lead up.

What a day. Yeah, after the day game. It was like Ferris Bueller, yeah. They ended up at Guitars and Growlers back in Flower Mound. Hope they took an elite ride. How about a nice break? Let's get a nap. And then sometime between 10 PM and 1 AM that Friday,

hit Walmart for a case, I'm certain of it. Jesus. Maybe a couple white owls. That's a baller day, man. Split up those swishies. Yeah, maybe some ice cream. Yeah, maybe a couple tombstones. So how do you get measles?

I don't get vaccinated and get exposed to it. But here's the funny part. I just mean airborne. You got to touch a person. I think it's a I think. Like, can somebody's can if I'm sitting next to a guy with measles, can I get measles? I mean, they're measles.

They're airborne. It's not just much. Yeah. So OK, so let's recap that. Saturday morning, you're at Pretty Burrito, Donut Plaza, Rangers Texas Live, Rangers game, guitars and growlers. You hit the Walmart in Louisville on the way back to the crib.

The next morning, we were at Flower Mound United Methodist Church between 11 AM andm. and two. You gotta tone. And then, like everyone, you go to the grocery store afterward, win Kofu. It's just very funny to see a full breakdown. It's like this person's a sim. And I clicked on him, I'm like, what have you been up to?

But, I don't know, like how precise is, like them putting this information out there for the public. What are you supposed to do? Like if you were at that game? Yeah, if you were at Pretty Burrito that morning. It's not even this last Saturday. Let's say you were there and you have not been vaccinated for measles. And you don't have measles yet from then.

What's your play? Well, it says you basically gotta look out for the measies until May 13th. So if you were at one of these places, look out. Just be worried. Yeah. Dude, I would laugh so hard if somehow one of y'all got measles.

That's not very nice. I would be very concerned for your safety. It would be good for the show. I think. Yeah, that's bigger than the show. You know what's funny? This person's probably like 55, and I was tired by the second item on this list.

I was gonna say. Busy day, my man. Like if you're going to a baseball game, like that's all I'm doing. Everything else is kind of gearing up getting ready for that. Yeah. That's why I just don't have time to go to baseball games.

Just busy doing all the other stuff. Man in San Antonio jumped off of a bridge, then tried to carjack a good Samaritan before dying. This man's 37 years old. Are you sure the Samaritan was good? It is always just kind of an assumption, isn't it? Like, what if he was carjacking some asshole? Would you be like, okay, let's...

Right, like Craig Sager. That shapes the, yeah. A deadbeat dad who hasn't paid back child support in 10 months. Or a guy not turning right on Red. Yeah, somebody who's in the left lane. Like what if they also reported that? Then he ended up hijacking him and...

Good. Yeah. So this is a crazy story. There was a dude in Minnesota. He was convicted of kidnapping and sexually assaulting his girlfriend in Minnesota. He was on the run after not attending trial last week. He's accused of these crimes back in 2023.

He held his girlfriend for over 24 hours and so then this guy was set to be on trial last week in Minnesota. He shows up in San Antonio and he jumps off of a bridge in San Antonio. Don't know if he's trying to kill himself or what, but then he tried to carjack a driver that stopped to help him after jumping off the bridge. He lived and then the cops show up. They arrested him, detained him, and he died at the hospital. What kind of bridge are we talking jumping into the you know there's a couple photo. That's not that far of a fall.

No. To me, this looks like jumping off of a, how would I say? Not like where 820 and 35W is. No, but I'm going to hold up my computer, because I know that's super. Or 121 and 820. What if we tried this? Okay, it's just like an overpass.

Yeah, it doesn't feel like it would kill you. Yeah, 635 and 75. Probably break a couple legs, you'd think. Yeah. Depending on how you landed, of course, yeah. Well, internal injuries is what we're talking about here. And I'm not like, victim blaming necessarily, but if you just jumped off of a bridge,

sustained those injuries, and you're able to carjack me, I need to look in the mirror. Yeah, I'm not helping that guy. Well, I guess I'm just saying, if a guy can jump off a bridge, sustain the damage that Dan was just describing, and then get you out of your car, you might be a weakling.

Well, it says they stopped to help. So maybe the door was open. Yeah, yeah. But if you just saw a madman scale off of a, you're not stopping my car to help him. That's a good point. Yeah. You're not stopping your car to help a lot of people though.

Yeah, I know. Someone else will stop. Look, I'm not trained. You don't want me helping. I would just get in the way, so let me just speed on by. And let's see here, our final story. A Fort Worth police officer is just now being reported, was fired earlier this year after DEA agents

found drugs at his house. was fired earlier this year after DEA agents found drugs at his house. Employment was terminated. And I guess after they found the cocaine, they took him to a medical center where he was ordered to provide a sample. And he was still an active police officer at that time and he was had cocaine in his system. And that's only a couple days right? Yeah yeah that's the old military move. From what I know about cocaine you might want a little in your system sometimes right right? You're a cop.

It's a very funny, in the most recent, gemstones when baby Billy's trying to do teen gist, and he can only get through it with Coke. And then just a scene at the end, it's a very kitschy 80s action movie scene where he just needs one more run at the bad guy, and he's just like, ah. But we were talking earlier about the surveillance part of being a detective.

If there were no rules and just everything was up to me, I would have no family. And I would be able to do speed and solve crimes every day. Like that's all I would do. Whether it's the surveillance cameras, whether it's you know, casing out places, like I'm really good at that. At like locking in on something and being like,

I can do this for two days. If I have a little assistance. I don't want anyone bitching at me that I'm not home. No. I mean, you're allowed to have vitamins. I know. But I think if you- Why not have a little-

Yeah, a little- A little heart vitamin. Yeah, a little performance enhancer. What's the difference? Being a cop on cocaine sounds amazing. You're super in charge. You can probably get more of it if you need it, which is rarely the case.

The whole thing is you want to regulate it. You want 0.3 cocaine or something. Whatever. Let's take over. No, you're right. Yeah, you just need a micro dose cocaine. Make sure your boys don't get too hyped on it. You guys are just a machine out there.

You've got to let me do things my way. It's not by the book. No, anyways, there's your news. Okay. The Dumb Zone News. Like and subscribe. Ba ba ba ba. The Dumb Zone presents.

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R-Y- No you wouldn't. R-Y- No you wouldn't. R-Y-L-A-N. You're all my leaders, hopefully get to meet up if you take another road trip to training camp from Jeff Todd in Amarillo. Oh, yeah, good dude. So I know a Ryland, you know a Ryland.

His is spelled in a way that makes me feel like it's country. Like it looks like Wayland. Amarillo, bro. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, but for some reason, it is, and that's what's weird. R-I-L-E-N feels dragon-y. I think a 17 year old named Ryland

is gonna be nice to you, or polite. No. What do you want? I don't really think any of them are, but he sounds way cooler than me. Let's see. Hey Dan, my name is Will. I wanna give a birthday shout out to Doofu Paul. I'm guessing you woke himself up in that special way.

Elsewhere, today is Thursday, May 1st. We have Eric Nadel to get to here in a few minutes. But on this day in 1707, the Kingdom of Great Britain was created as a treaty merging England and Scotland took effect. as a treaty merging England and Scotland took effect. Okay. We're still doing treaties? Yeah, what was the last one? We're doing ceasefires, right? Are treaties back?

On this day in 1952, Mr. Potato Head is introduced. The plastic toy. Do you know what that is, Blake? Mr. Potato Head? Yeah. Yeah. He knows because of toy store. Yeah, because I didn't have one.

Well, I was just thinking about like today's kid versus this era. like today's kid versus this era. I guess my mom might've been around, right? I mean, there was Mr. Potato Head when I was a little kid. I never feel like I was stoked on it, but the point is, all right, we got nothing that stimulates these kids. What could we do?

I got an idea. We're in the boardroom. Stay with me. It's a potato. Well, won't that rot? Hold on. It's kind of boring, isn't it? It's made of plastic. And then, yeah, you can put a thing on it and it'll be like it has a mouth and then eyes and they'll play with it for hours. And it was really popular. They sold them, billions of them.

Like somehow, they're like, yeah, potato, head, good, awesome. It makes no sense. Winner idea. There's nothing about it that makes any sense. This day, 1991, oh, what a day this was. What a night this was. When Nolan, through his seventh no-hitter at age 44, struck out 16, only walked two, 44 years old.

He later said this was the best game he had ever played. Same night is the night that Ricky Henderson passed Lou Brock becoming baseball's all-time stolen base leader with his 939th career steal. And I remember old white sportscasters love this because they hated Ricky Henderson because he was very cocky and he would say things like Ricky told you that Ricky would steal that base and then you have Nolan Ryan who just wants to brand another cow and go you know... love his wife.

Maybe even kill that cow with his bare hand. Yeah know, love his wife. Maybe even kill that cow with his bare hand. Yeah, and then love his wife. Anyway, the fact that this overshadowed Ricky, I think, was joyful to many olds. Good for them. That's awesome for them. On this day in 1996, the Mas were sold to a group of investors led by Ross Perot Jr. for $125 million from Donald Carter who had paid $12 million. Franchise values keep going up. What's the deal with that? And speaking of cocaine, on this day in 2014, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford goes to rehab.

Yes. Yes. He went to rehab on this day. I think if you really wanted to do it, you could probably find one of those every month. I don't think he was a one-timer. Oh, him. I thought you just meant celebrity going to rehab.

Oh, no. No, him. Him. Birthdays today include. Bro, you know what's crazy? His brother is still, I believe, one of the five or six or whatever biggest politicians, his brother had done

the same stuff as him. Name value. Doug Ford, yeah. Name recognition and that's good for you. I believe we talked to someone recently who might be enjoying a little bit of that. What, Steve Hitler? No, no, it wasn't Steve Hitler.

Kevin Farley. Oh. Kevin Farley. Oh, Kevin Farley. Look, the Kevin Farley thing is fresh, folks. I would have had him on even if your brother wasn't Chris Farley. I thought that that's how good you were. Wes Welker, 44. It's gotta be, I would say, least an OC one day. Chet Holmgren, 23.

Weird looking individual. Miles Sanders is 28. That's a hard 28, buddy. Isn't he a cowboy? He is now a Dallas cowboy. I forgot about that. I did too before this morning, cause I'm like, where'd he go?

Miles Sanders and Javante Williams? Or is there another? Yeah, it's an awesome backfield. Curtis Martin is 52. Damn. Marcus Strohman is 34. And he fell off. Jake Ray Parker Jr. is 71. Deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup deedup de Do you know, do you know, do you know love going to a Wes Anderson movie with Donovan.

That's fantastic. Ha ha ha. If you, if you, I'd love, just go to a Wes Anderson movie with Donovan and then say, explain that movie to me when you get out. Like I've never seen him more upset in my life. Yeah. Which one? Moonrise Kingdom, I'm pretty sure, or whatever it was called.

That he had to sit through the whole thing. Weird one. I think he was happier at the McCartney concert. And he said, I recognize two songs. One was because Earth, Wind, and Fire did this cover. Julie Benz is 53, Blake. That would be Dexter's wife, who was murdered by the Trinity Killer.

Lizzie Green is 22, I don't know who she is, but it says Nickelodeon star from Dallas. So she makes my list. Interesting. Don't know, she looks a little young. And our birthdays of the day, well, runner up, Nicholas Braun, 37. Why do I know that name?

Oh, he's the guy who, you tell me. You would never call him he's the guy who. You would call him Greg the Egg. Oh, okay. Greg from Succession, he's awesome. And this is our birthday of the day, Blake. James Murray, 49. Practical jokers? Murr.

Is any in trouble? Probably, they're all in trouble. Born on this day now dead Calamity Jane. Chuck Bednerik and it says here Kemp's been Kate Smith. Chuck Bednerik and it says here Kemp's been Kate Smith. She sang like something, Starspeed America something. Which one is she? No, that's. I don't know man.

Who's Kate Smith? I don't know, says Kemp's been. She was canceled. Was she hammered? She had a racist song, which one was it? Oh yeah, yeah, it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We found out about this because of the Yankees.

Yeah, so her rendition of God Bless America was played during the seventh inning stretch of the Yankees home games from 2001 until 2019 when the practice was discontinued. Amid controversy surrounding her 1931 recordings of, that's why darkies were born. I guess Kate Smith might be back soon. Here's the verse.

Someone had to pick the cotton, someone had to plant the corn, someone had to slave and be able to sing, and that's why darkies were born. It is kind of nice though that they're acknowledging right then a hundred years ago, this music is awesome. Yeah. Dead on the stay still dead. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of propaganda, which I always find, that's a find, that's what they called it? Like they said, hey, we're skewing this information to benefit us, and I'm gonna call the office that. Yeah, the MOP.

That's interesting, you're right, I never thought of it that way. He's the minister, or is that what other people called him? Like, did they within their own system say, I'm the minister of propaganda. So like immediately you're saying, whatever I'm saying, I'm just making- Maybe also a translation issue.

You know what I mean? Maybe there's a German word just means like state information, not sure. He got cucked by Lenny Riefenstahl though, didn't he? Maybe, I don't know. I've learned more about that in the last six months or so. She pulled a fast one where, later I'll tell you. I've learned more about that in the last six months or so. She pulled a fast one where later I'll tell you why I was talking to a friend about this,

where at her end of life memoirs, I mean, I was just making the movies, right? I didn't actually put anybody in an oven. Right. Yeah, I mean, they needed a vision, and I kind of whitewashed it a little bit. I don't know. That's right.

You're right. Now that I think about it, she somehow became the apple of his eye. You got this done. Also died on this date. We have Stanley Weston. He invented the G.I. Joe action figure. Okay.

Way better than Potato Head. And also died on this day. John Walker, the inventor of the friction match. So, my question to you guys is, Oh my god. What year do you think the friction match was invented? Or like, when was John Walker alive? Like that's certainly a name that does not indicate an era.

This one doesn't feel like Galileo hard. It seems like this would have had to have been. Give me 1750. I was gonna say 1800. 1830. You guys are doing great. It was 1826. Yeah, let me tell you. You guys are doing great. It was 1826. Yeah, let me tell you guys are all very close. Well here's the thing, this game is way easier when there are two

names. Anytime you give us one with one name you're like Monet. I'm like uh right. Yeah. And that was Today in History. Alright, well doing things- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What? If I don't see you at the Byron Nelson tomorrow, I'm coming to your house. Okay. Well, we're not closing the show here. We're just taking a break.

We're doing things out of order because we have Eric Nadel coming up. So calm down You're listening to the dumb zone So check out DZ TV tonight at 9 on channel 27 every night Monday through Friday and This Sunday, you know that we're going to be on Big Fox starting this Sunday. So Fox 4 is airing... Are they going to animate us?

No. No puppet. I don't know. They are starting to, they're going to air some of their podcasts. So they're going to lead into, they're going to some of their podcasts. So they're gonna lead into, they're gonna air some of the lesser shows they have, like Mike Doocy and Sam Gannon, and then lead it right into ours at 11.30 PM, Sunday night.

That's right, before midnight, my friend. Yeah, I don't think we made animation domination, Jake. I think that's in the fall. I think we made animation domination, Jake. I think that's in the fall. So tune into us on TV. Isn't that exciting? Also exciting, also exciting, Burrito. In our studio right now, the DZTV studios at Fox Four,

is the great Eric Nadel. Hello, great Eric Nadel. How are you? I don't know, how are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm about 80% awake. We got back from San Francisco last night. I got home around 1230. So I'm in good shape, kind of. Is it possible? I see you have, is that through any sort of fitness tracking what you have on your wrist there? Is it sleep track or anything like that? Um, it's just an Apple Watch, basically used to track my AFib and my snoring. OK.

My potential sleep apnea. I've just found that as I've tried to live a more regular, consistent life, it's very important for me just to stay routine, routinized. I feel like it's impossible to have a healthy sleep schedule if you work in sports in any capacity, it's just insane. Certainly is for me.

Yeah, like if I look at my scores for sleep, if I sleep at different times, they're poor. And that's all that life is, is just get the sleep when you can. I feel like that has an effect on you over time. Yeah, and you know, and you're dealing with the time zones too. And it used to be no big deal for me to go back and forth between the Central and the Pacific,

the two hour time difference. But I found this week, we spent a whole week in California, I never really adjusted to the time difference. I was waking up every day, between five and six in the morning and never really got adjusted to it. Even if I went to bed between five and six in the morning. And never really got adjusted to it. Even if I went to bed at midnight or one in the morning. So I'm a little short on sleep, but I've got a few days off this week.

Yeah. So you have a, uh, when you're a baseball hall of fame, or you get to, that helps you negotiate your contract, right? Yeah, I do a hundred games now. It's, it's great. So it's basically two thirds of the games and I get to figure out which games I want to do a month in advance So I do the schedule a month at a time So like if a concert gets announced sometime in August or September that wasn't announced in March

I don't have to miss out on it Which I would have to do if I had to make my schedule before the season even started So the Rangers have just been great about that. What do you mean? So you live your life around concerts that are coming into town? Not necessarily coming into town. I go to Red Rocks. I go to the Sphere. I go to festivals. But yeah, largely I do, which is pretty pathetic. How's the Sphere? It's incredible. I've gone twice. I went to see the Dead and I went to see The Eagles and I'm going back to see The Eagles again now that Chris Holt is in The Eagles. I did not know that. Yeah, he's now the lead guitar player in The Eagles. Wow. Yeah, the guy retired at Parkinson's who had been the longtime lead guitar

player and you know Chris has played in Don Henley band, and apparently he taught Henley's kid how to play guitar. That's right. And now he is in the Eagles. So I'm going back. But it's an incredible experience. It's worth the expense. It's worth the hassle. It is unlike any concert experience you've ever had.

Wow. How many concerts you go to a year? Well, if you count the small venues, which I do, well over 100, definitely average more than two a week. You would think on, you've been doing this for what? 40, 50, almost 50 years? This is the 47th year in this job.

Before that, I had six years doing minor league hockey. A little break, a little, okay, I'm now doing just 100 games a year, let's just take a break. That is his break. On the night's off. Yeah. That's what I choose to do on the night's off.

So I was going to bring this up at some point, but did you see Gloria Gaynor? I saw Gloria Gaynor when she did a walk on at a Lindsey Sterling concert. That's why I brought it up. Because this guy loves Lindsay Stirling and will go to a Lindsay Stirling concert by himself. I went by myself at Radio City Music. And Gloria Gaynor walked on.

How did you know that play? I just know the Lindsay Stirling part. I saw her in Grand Prairie. She's one of my favorites. I saw you earlier this year. You were telling Jared Sandler that on one of the pre-game shows, I think. But yeah, I didn't get excited about anything

except that Lindsay Stirling. He loves Lindsay Stirling. Oh, I do too. She's spectacular. We used to make fun of him for it, and then we found out a lot of people love her as well. Oh, it was a fantastic show. I'd go back to see her anytime. I kind of fell in love with her over the holidays.

Yeah, she does a lot of Christmas stuff. The holiday jams were tasty. But how did you get to know her? From like a video game, right? Yeah, that's... It's a long story. How did you get to know her? I think Instagram.

You know, I follow a lot of musicians on Instagram, and a lot of musicians are friends of mine. And when they see something incredible, they send it to me. And somebody sent me a clip of musicians on Instagram and a lot of musicians are friends of mine. And when they see something incredible, they send it to me. And somebody sent me a clip of her on a trapeze upside down playing the most incredible virtuoso violin you've ever heard. She's very talented.

I thought that was probably worth seeing in person. Okay. And it was, right? Oh, absolutely. So he doesn't just go to concerts, Dan, in his free quote downtime, he's also in his 13th year of planning a concert. The annual birthday benefit. Smooth.

Thursday, May 29th at the historic Longhorn Ballroom. It says here, you don't want to miss it. No, you don't. It's Shiny Ribs and the Secret Sisters. Have any of you seen Shiny Ribs? I looked them up after this copy was given to me. They're an incredible show band. Unbelievably charismatic lead guy, Kevin Russell.

Backup singers, brass. It's a huge party. They'll be the second band. The first band is the Secret Sisters, an acoustic duo from Alabama who are just hilarious in concert. I've seen them several times. So it's kind of a co-headline double bill and all the proceeds go to the Grant Halliburton Foundation

which provides mental health education programs in area schools. We moved it from the Kessler to the Longhorn this year to accommodate more people. The Longhorn holds about three times as many people so we can have more sponsors, we could have more people. All the information is at longhornballroom.com. The date is May 29th. So if you've been doing this for 13 years and the benefit is for the cause that you stated, was this the cause of the benefit before you were public about issues that you faced?

It's always been a mental health charity. When we started out, the beneficiary was Contact Crisis Line, which was a phone line that you could call that later kind of went out of business and merged with the suicide hotline. Then it was Benef benefiting Focus on Teens, which was an organization that, unfortunately, didn't make it through COVID, that provided support for homeless teens in Dallas schools, many of whom had mental health issues. And then when Focus on Teens went away,

we started working with Grant Halliburton Foundation. And this was before 2023 when I missed part of the season, yeah. Incredible organization. Do a lot of great work. They've saved a lot of lives. Hey, this awesome talk with Eric Nadel is brought to us by OwnWell. That is the place that can help you get some money back from big government because they are charging you too much for your property tax.

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just to talk about Eric Nadel and the fact that I wanted to be you growing up. This was like just the radio announcer. Sure. I feel like that's, I know you're doing a lot of TV now. Well, we're doing the pre and the post game now on TV. Yeah. I've always resisted doing the play by play on TV.

OK. For a myriad of reasons. Always preferred staying on radio. What's, well, what are some of the reasons then? Start with the fact you don't get to do postseason games on radio. What's, well, what are some of the reasons then? Start with the fact you don't get to do postseason games on TV. You work all year and then your team makes the playoffs and every postseason game is a national broadcast. If you're the TV announcer like Dave Raymond during our World Series run, you go home.

You don't get to do them. On TV you don't get to describe things. You know, you're basically, you know what they say if you're, when you learn broadcasting play-by-play, they say on radio, you have to paint the word picture. On TV, you just put captions on the pictures. You're constantly being led by what's on the monitor and what some guy is telling you talking in your ear,

which I don't particularly like. You know, for me, the real challenge, the real joy of doing radio play by play is the description, painting that word picture so that, you know, somebody can actually see in their imagination what's going on in the ballpark. And then it was kind of a deal breaker for me that on TV, you know, you had to wear a coat and tie. They've done away with that, fortunately, but that was a deal breaker for me that on TV, you know, you had to wear a coat and tie. They've done away with that, fortunately, but that was a deal breaker for me.

I'm not wearing a coat and tie to a baseball game, especially at our previous ballpark where it was always 90 degrees in the booth. You know, we had air conditioning, but as soon as we opened the windows, it wasn't air conditioning anymore. And I also thought the whole concept of wearing a jacket and tie to a baseball game for announcers, to me, was ridiculous. You're trying to sell the idea of fun at the ballpark. You know, this isn't the 1940s, where guys are showing up

at the ballpark in jackets and ties and hats. You know, try and identify with your audience. And so now, as we should, we're wearing branded Ranger gear on TV, and that's what we should have been doing all along, and I think that's what everybody should be doing. Now, if it's a special occasion, like opening day, we wear jackets and ties, but hopefully that'll be the only time we wear them this year.

Just that's... The painting the picture, though, that's the thing. The description, the exact, you know, that pitch, the evaluation of this umpire early in a game. And then you'll, you know, you'll paint that picture as well. I did that's, that's really what always drew me to it was a lying in bed, listening to, listening to baseball play by play. My dream was to become a major league baseball play-play announcer and do that for 40 years. Yeah, you know, my dream, too, was to be a play-by-play

announcer, but I grew up in New York City, in Brooklyn, to be exact, listening to Marv Albert do the New York Knicks and the New York Rangers on the radio. And that's how I decided for sure that this is what I wanted to do. And people would ask me, and hockey was always my first love, and people would ask me,

what are you gonna do when you grow up? And I would say, well, I'm gonna be like Marv. I'm gonna be the voice of the Rangers. I just wasn't specific enough. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna ask that, because, like, mine was Joe Tate and Nev Chandler. That's who I grew up with. Did you know those guys? I met each of them a couple of times.

Nev did some Indians ball back then. And Joe one time just happened to be at a game, but I never knew him much. Okay. But those were my influences. And baseball? Were you listening to Herb Scorer? Oh, absolutely. No, Joe Tate was on the radio with Herb Scorer for quite a few years.

So was Nev Chandler. Yeah. But yeah, Herb Scorer was the old color commentator, the former left-handed pitcher. I guess he could have still been a left-hander. Yeah, anyway, that's just my radio meant so much to me. And so basically, it was Marv was your main guy. Well, it started with baseball, listening to the Yankees, Mel Allen and Red Barber.

When I first found out those guys were getting paid, I was about seven or eight years old. And I asked my dad how they got off work to go to the game that afternoon. And he said, no, that's their work. My dad was a dentist. I said, so you're gonna go back to the office and fill some cavities, and these guys go to Yankee Stadium. You're like, wait, what? Really?

And blah, blah, blah, they get paid. Dad, they have a better job than you. I want to do that. But it wasn't really until I heard Marv that I became totally focused, totally enamored with the prospect of doing that. So what was your journey? You said minor league hockey.

What was your first job, and how did you get to the office? Yeah, I got into it basically through college radio. I went to Brown University and I became the voice of the Brown University Bruins hockey team. And I sent out a million tapes when I got out to basically every minor league hockey team in the country. And when I graduated, I did not have a job. So I continued doing my college job,

which was a janitor. I read that. Yeah. Goodwill hunting. What is this like mid seventies? So this was 1972. Okay. So I'm cleaning toilets and you know, and cleaning hair out of our drains. Dave Raymond, he what he lived sort of in a college, something he had maybe a homeless situation in Stanford where he was stealing pizza from a trash and living. Living on people's couches, couch surfing.

You were cleaning a college. I was actually getting paid enough to share a house with four other guys. But then I got a phone call from the owner of the Muskegon Mohawks in Muskegon, Michigan, and his announcer had just quit and he went to the file and they always say, we'll keep your application on file.

And you go, yeah, right. Well, he went to the file and he looked at it and he was going through the file and he actually saw that I had gone to Brown and that's why he called me first because Brown had a reputation as producing smart people and he thought, well, this kid must be smart. I'll call him up.

And we had a really long conversation. And he called me back the next day and offered me the job. And next thing you know, I was the voice of the Muskegon Mohawks in the International Hockey League for three years. It was the lowest level of professional sport. It was the equivalent to the movie Slapshot. It was just like that.

Slapshot was about the Eastern League, which was the same level, basically double A hockey, which didn't go any lower than double A. And in fact, in that movie, the Hanson brothers in that movie tried out for our team. They were the Carlson brothers in real life. They tried out for our team and they didn't make it. They didn't skate well enough. And the fighting was attractive, but they didn't skate well enough to make our team. And

they wound up going to Johnstown or wherever it was and making a name for themselves in the movies. Soterios Johnson I read that in your second hockey gig, you got the gig over Doc Emmerich. Dr. John B. Emmerich Yeah, that was crazy. Soterios Johnson That'll keep you humble throughout your life. Dr. John B. Emmerich Well, Doc was in Port Huron, Michigan, in the same league. And, you know, we were all trying to get out of there, trying to move up the ladder. And I applied for a job in Oklahoma City.

And the general manager, who was also the coach and traveled with the team, of course, decided that he was gonna interview the two finalists at dinner in Montreal during the hockey annual meetings in June, and he interviewed me the first night, and he started drinking before we even sat down. He's ordering blonde Dubonnet, and all these other things I'd never even heard of,

and I just stayed with him drink for drink all night, and we were just hammered, completely hammered. And as I staggered back to my hotel room, I thought, I think that went pretty well. And then the next night, he was going to interview the other finalist. And he called me up at midnight. And he said, Hey, Eric, I just want to tell you, you got the job. He says, but I got this problem. And I said, what's the problem? He says, I don't know how to tell this guy, Mike Emrick, that I'm not hiring him. Mike doesn't drink that much. And I thought to myself, I just got a job because I'm a better drinker than Mike Emrick. There are pros and cons. Yeah. So now when I go talk to the play-by-play class at North Texas and they ask me, what should you

do to be a play-by-play announcer? I always say, and learn how to drink. It might help you someday. Boy, that's changed over the years, it feels like. Because we hear stories about Galloway and just all those guys drinking in the press box. And that'd be such a big deal. Yeah, there was always beer in the press box.

It was just acknowledged that that was the case. Also in the clubhouse, right? Yeah. Sure. Charlie Huff would be... Yeah, beer and cigarettes too. Guys would be sitting around their lockers smoking cigarettes and drinking beers. I bet you have some crazy minor league hockey war stories. Absolutely.

You know, and you know, and it was one of these leagues where players were trying to establish themselves by fighting and, and the crowds were crazy. And there wasn't plexiglass, there was chicken wire in most of the stadiums, most of the arenas. And fans would come with pins and would actually stick the players with pins through the chicken wire when they got checked up against the board, where the wire was, you know, at the end of the rink.

Things like that, and so players would wind up climbing up into the stands, throwing chairs. Not to mention the brawls that you'd have on the ice where the entire teams would be involved, the benches would empty, and have these incredible Donnie Brooks on the ice. People complain about social media. It has a lot of negative impacts,

but I feel like that happens less now because people know there's a camera everywhere. Yeah, maybe so. Maybe so. I think it certainly has curbed the way professional athletes and other celebrities lead their social lives. Sure, yeah, that's for sure. No question.

And I don't go to the same places on the road, I'm sure that our players do now. I'm old enough to be their grandfather. But I never see a player at any of the same places on the road, I'm sure that our players do now. You know, I'm old enough to be their grandfather. But I never see a player at any of the bars I go to on the road. And maybe they're going out and they're just going to different types of places, but never. And the type of music that I go see

is probably not the type of music that these 25 year old kids go see. So had you done baseball before taking the... No, I had not. The Rangers called me up. I was doing the Dallas Blackhawks which is the job I got after the one year in Oklahoma City and The Rangers called me and and said they had a guy Bill Merrill who was going to retire in a year and they wanted to kind Of groom his successor and they loved the way I did hockey and they wanted to know if I had done baseball So I lied and I said that I had, but I didn't have a tape.

So they let me record four games into a cassette recorder, sitting in a box at the old, old stadium, the original Arlington Stadium. And based on that, they weren't sure whether to hire me or not. They were continuing to interview me and talk to people. And they had another job open, selling advertising on the broadcasts. And they were trying to convince me and talk to people and they had another job open selling

advertising on the broadcasts and they were trying to convince me to take that job instead. And I said, well, I tell you what, if you hire me for the broadcast job, I'll do the advertising job and you won't have to hire a second person. And meanwhile, they didn't have a whole lot of money then. I'm in town already. They don't have to pay moving expenses. I was already completely vetted from having been in the market for two years, and they went for it.

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I know 79 was your first game. 79. Okay, I didn't know if you started as being a green early. I got hired in September of 78 to start selling advertising. And I had a whole off season to prepare to learn how to do baseball. So I was getting cassette tapes from all over the country, from friends of mine.

That was, you know, you couldn't listen to other teams' games back then. So I would have my friends in San Francisco, you know, would make tapes of Lon San Francisco, you know, would make tapes of Lon Simmons and, you know, whoever else was doing the Giants and the A's games. And my friends in New York were making tapes of the announcers there. And so I got a chance to listen to, you know, some Ernie Harwell tapes and Dave Niehaus in Seattle and, you know, some of the guys who I idolized.

And I would listen to the tapes and I would write down the phrases and basically practice. I bought one of the first VHS machines back when the VHS Betamax war was happening, the first home video recorders. It cost a thousand dollars, which, you know, was a hefty investment considering I was making about 20. was a hefty investment considering I was making about 20. But I got one of those and I got some tapes of baseball on TV and I would turn down the sound and I would practice doing the play by play all throughout the off season. So by the time the season rolled around in 1979, I didn't totally embarrass myself. I wasn't any good because I didn't have the pacing. I didn't have the conversational style that you need doing baseball. But at least I could handle the

play-by-play without screwing that up. Have you ever gone back to the like year one, listened to that stuff? No, no. I'd be horrified, I'm sure. It sounded like baseball on ice. So even in the minors, did you only do play-by-play? Because usually I think those jobs you got to be a promotions guy or a sales guy or something. And I was, and that's how I was able to get the sales job with the Rangers, because you did all that stuff. And with the Dallas Blackhawks for two years, I was selling all the ads in the program,

selling all the ads on the broadcasts, selling season tickets, selling group tickets, all of those things. So I didn't like doing sales, but I was pretty good at it. Because we're looking for a sales guy and you're only working 100 days a year. And just, just keep it in mind, I guess. I can make the presentations. I'm not that great about asking for the order. Yeah.

I don't have that killer instinct to try and persuade someone to do something. I'll make a great presentation and then, all right, if you buy it, fine. If you don't, I'll move on to the next one. Four or five innings, bring someone else in. So the reason I- Yeah, that's a good idea, I'll bring in the closer. The reason I was asking you about the birthday benefit, May 29th, Longhorn Ballroom, the cause pre-dating you

coming out publicly and discussing some of the issues you've dealt with, does that, am I to infer from that that perhaps maybe you could have come out earlier with those issues? It is something you'd struggled with for an amount of time before and there was just a hesitation to be public about it? Absolutely, there was too much of a stigma. I was terrified to let anybody know. I went through it from 2003 to 2005.

I dealt with depression and just kind of powered through it and didn't tell anybody about it except my closest friends. Obviously, you know, my wife knew and my caregivers knew, my family, but otherwise I didn't tell people because, you know, it was a sign of weakness. It was who knows what people would have concluded. And fortunately, by the time I went through it again, 20 years later, I felt confident enough that, you know, people had enough of an understanding of those things, enough public figures had come out. And you know, I felt basically that I had to because I wasn't able to work. The first

time I went through it, I was able to do it. But 20 years older, and with the medications, the anti-anxiety medications I was taking, my head was just not clear enough to do the kind of job that I wanted to do. So I felt it was best to stay away until I was able to wean off the medication and feel that I had my mental acuity back. Not to diminish it, but 2003 to 2005, a lot of Rangers fans felt that's just my norm. We're very depressed in that. Well, and it's funny because 04 was kind of a Cinderella season for the Rangers, where they actually stayed in the race till the final week of the season. The Luchey year? Yeah, the Luchey year. A-Rod had just been traded and made those derogatory comments about him and 24 kids.

And meanwhile, the Rangers have this terrific season under Buck Showalter, and they almost make the playoffs. Yeah, Dulucci had that hit. It's interesting you call it the Dulucci year. And I couldn't enjoy it the way that I should have. You know, I bluffed my way through it, but I didn't really have the joy in it that I should have that whole year. So bluffed my way through it, but I didn't really have the joy in it that I should have that that whole year. Um, so you started, would that be the, when you started,

was that the Seasons in Hell? Or was that just... Seasons in Hell was really before that. Okay. Yeah, Shropshire's years were before I got there. Incredible book. Incredible book. Certainly you've read it. And that just made me think, do you have other, you know, I like to read books based on the season we're in. So I'm reading a baseball book right now. You got a couple like top baseball books? Oh, absolutely. I have a million of them. Well, what would like two or three off top of your head? Like best ones I know, like, it's hard to say one. 56. it's about Joe DiMaggio's streak. And it's written by Costia Kennedy, who is a Sports Illustrated writer,

one of the most gifted sports writers I've ever read. He also has a biography of Pete Rose, which is exceptional. I also love a book called The Pitch That Killed. It's about Ray Chapman, the only baseball player who has died because he was hit by a pitch. Cleveland Indian. A really, really good book. I'm currently reading one I'm really enjoying,

which is Ricky. It's the biography of Ricky Henderson by Howard Bryant, another incredible writer. And I'm making my way through that one and finding it really good. And I recently read Lee Montville's biographies of Ted Williams and Babe Ruth. And they're, they're all really good. And above all those, I think my favorite is called The Duke of Havana. And it's about El Duque. Orlando Hernandez, who's one of my all-time favorite players.

I just loved El Duque. OK. When did you start first visiting Latin America? Well, we started getting Latin American players in large numbers in the late 80s, early 90s. And Ruben Sierra, when he came up, instantly became our best player. And nobody could talk to him without a translator,

and the teams didn't have translators then. So I would have to find Jose Guzman, who was the only true bilingual guy on the team, or the bilingual trainer, Ray Ramirez, if I wanted to talk to Ruben, and that wasn't always possible. So I started taking Spanish lessons. And after a couple of years of taking Spanish lessons, I decided probably the best way to improve in Spanish

was to actually put myself in total immersion. So I started going to Latin America. I went to Cuba several times. I went to language school in Venezuela, many different places in Mexico, to the Dominican Republic, to know, to watch Winter Ball. And all of these places where I was forced to speak Spanish. And, you know, after a few years,

my Spanish was good enough that I actually did an inning of play-by-play in every game on our Spanish broadcast, because we only had one announcer then, Luis Mayoral. And he was a chain smoker. And he literally could not make it through a game without a cigarette, and you weren't allowed to smoke in these press boxes. So he would take an inning off in the middle of the game,

and I would come over and I would do the play by play in bad Spanish. It was like Chico Escuela doing English baseball play by play. I can imagine what people were thinking with the grammatical atrocities I was committed, but it was really fun. And then within what people were thinking with the grammatical atrocities I was committed, but it was really fun. And then within a year or two, the Rangers hired a second announcer and they didn't need me anymore. But for those couple of years, it

was really a good time doing Spanish play by play. That feels like that would be more nerve wracking. You know, it wasn't that bad. One of the problems I've always had is conjugating the verbs in complex tenses, but in play-by-play you don't do that. Everything is pretty much in the present tense. So the verb conjugations are easy. Until something happens that's controversial or you have to explain something, and like one time in fact it was in Cleveland, it was at Jacob's Field, and Louie Cleveland, it was at Jacobs Field, and Louie had gone out to smoke his cigarette. And there was a big argument about whether a

home run had been fair or foul. And now I'm having to use complex tenses, and I can just imagine how ridiculous it sounded. And he heard the crowd roaring and screaming, he came running in, because he knew I was probably about to jump out of the lifeboat. And he bailed me out. But that was horrifying. Well, that's awesome. I didn't know you did the Latin America stuff. Just, that's very smart.

Off season, obviously. Yeah, and I've gone to Cuba many times. I have a lot of friends there, and they're in need of everything. It is a totally desperate economic situation. Their communist system does not work. And they need anything you can buy in a Walgreens or a Walmart or a Target, they need it. And I go down there a couple of times a year.

You can bring two 50 pound suitcases full of stuff and my friends down there email lists of the things they need. They prioritize them. And you could actually go down there legally lists of the things they need. They prioritize them. And you could actually go down there legally. People think you can't. You can't go there as a tourist, but you could go down there under a category that's called support for the Cuban people, which is clearly what I'm doing.

You could also go down there for professional research. And when I go down there, I go to a lot of baseball games. I listen to their announcers. I talk with their announcers, you know, and their sports writers. And so I have, you know, I have legitimate reasons for going down there. And it's just a fascinating place.

It's a bizarro world where doctors make less than a hundred dollars a month. And hotel maids, because they make tips from tourists, make more than the doctors do. It's weird, but the people are just tremendously warm and giving and they wanna share everything they have even though they don't have a squat. And yeah, I love it.

Your favorite era, Rangers baseball. Oh, well, it has to be the era when we became good, which was the 90s, when the Rangers, you know, made the playoffs for the first time. You know, those teams with Rusty Greer and Mark McLemore and Will Clark and, you know, Juan Gonzalez and Pudge. And those were the last years where I was truly

a buddy with the players and would go out with the players, because I was still roughly their same age. I was a little bit older, but I wasn't in a completely different generation. And those are the last guys, you know, who have remained, you know, friends of mine. Darren Oliver, Bobby Witt. You know, I have phone numbers for all these guys.

You know, I don't have a phone number for anybody, you know, who's on the Rangers now. I used to hang out with those guys. And, you know, and they made the playoffs three times in the late 90s. So, you know, we finally had, you know, competitive baseball to talk about. Yeah. Mine is the 2011 team.

Like, it's just so colorful, wash, just everything about it. So, it's odd to like that team better than the World Series winning team, but that's, I don't know, I think a lot of people have that feeling. Maybe that's just anecdotal, because it's the feeling I have.

Well, we really haven't had a chance to fall in love with a lot of the players now, the way you did back then. Those guys had been here for a while, Elvis and Michael and Kinsler and Josh Hamilton. The World Series team seemed to just come about really quickly. Yeah, out of nowhere. Almost.

Yeah. Well, and I think the other thing too is if you think about the titles we've had around here, it's about as different from the Dirk Mavs title as you could get. There was that they had lost prior and they're avenging that to some extent, but it just felt very different. Yeah, and the thing about that 2011 experience too, is I really think it brought the Ranger fans together as a community, going through that horrible,

excruciating agony together. You know, and I really think it made the win in 2023 that much sweeter, because we had all gone through so much pain before finally having the ecstasy. Have we had, have the Rangers had exceptionally colorful managers or is that just baseball? Because it feels like you've had some good guys

to interview over here. I think we've had more colorful managers than the average. Yeah, definitely. When I go back, I started with Pat Corrales, who is this real hard-ass guy, but fun to talk to. Don Zimmer, all-time classic baseball character. Doug Rader, who would drive his car into a tree every day at spring training to park it because he claimed he had trouble with the brakes. Kevin Kennedy, a very explosive guy. You know, Johnny Oates was probably the most normal average guy of the guys we had, and he was kind of a quirky guy in his own right.

Obviously, Wash. Bobby, Bobby, Bobby Valentine. Bobby Valentine. Like the classic smart aleck wise guy, and who I probably learned more baseball from than any of the managers. Buck Showalter, you know, just a brilliant, brilliant man, but total control freak. Hard ass, yeah. And then you had Walsh, who, it's the way baseball go. And then obviously Bochy is wonderful.

And Bochy, and Jim Bannister, who was kind of a volatile guy in his own right, had this military, I'm the general of the army mentality. And then you have Bochy, the all-time great, who combines the best aspects of a manager into one human being. So I had a play-by-play question for you because it's still a craft that I work on on the side

and obviously idolize you and guys like Chuck Cooperstein. But my main thing is basketball, but when I did baseball, it helped me slow down and find that rhythm and cadence that I needed. So you coming from hockey, you said you thought you were terrible in 79. When did you think you were beginning to get good at baseball?

It took a few years. You know, I was really fortunate. My first partner was John Miller, you know, who went on to do Sunday night baseball for a long time and now has been the longtime voice of the Giants after many years with the Orioles. I think he's probably the best announcer of my generation. And I got to learn from him a lot about the pacing

and using your personality. And I was really fortunate in that regard. And then Mark Holtz, who came a couple of years later, who had a real joy in his voice all the time. He was so happy to be there and you always heard that on the air. And that really helped me to learn how to bring my personality out on the air. So in a lot of ways, it's just listening to other announcers and hearing how they do it and incorporating that into your own style. How much does the pitch clock turn you off?

It has saved my career. I would be retired right now if it wasn't for the pitch clock. The games had gotten so long, they had gotten so dull with the ball not being put in play enough that I had had it. And then when I heard the pitch clock was coming in, I decided I would stick around and see what it was like. Because I had been advocating for the pitch clock for many years, only to get resistance, you know, from every pitcher that I ever talked to about it. And when they finally put it in, it knocked a half an hour off the games. And that's a half an hour of dead time that Matt and I used to have to fill. Our jobs are so much easier, so much more fun.

The game is so much more watchable. I love watching the games now. I've gone from hating watching the games to loving watching the games and we get out of there a half hour earlier. There's so many benefits to it. You know, it's the greatest invention that baseball has ever come up with, I think, since they decided guys should wear fielding gloves.

It's interesting, because we talked to Kyle Gibson, who we became friends with when he pitched here. Great guy. Said his dad would watch the games but listen to you. And hated it. Hated the pitch clock. Because there was no time for anything else. It was, here's the pitch, here's a nugget.

Here's the pitch, here's something else. Here's the pitch, it was too fast-formed. So it's interesting hearing your perspective on it. It's an interesting point. I don't do as much preparation now because I don't have time to tell those stories. You're exactly right. And in fact, when they started having the pitch clock in the minor leagues,

and I started asking some of my friends who are minor league baseball announcers about it, a lot of them said, I don't really like it that much. I don't have time to tell the stories. You know, all I can do is call the game. Well, that's how it was when I grew up listening to baseball. There wasn't time between pitches

for the announcers to tell a whole lot of stories. You didn't even know where a lot of these guys were from. The pitcher got the ball, he saw the sign and he threw it. And I listened to those games, I've got CDs of games going all the way back, you know, to the 30s. And the announcers gave you no information other than he was a right-handed batter, he's a left-handed batter, he's deep in the box, he's in a crouch, he's not in a crouch. And you know, and that was it. There was no real analysis the way there is now. There weren't a whole lot of stories about how this guy got drafted out of high school and decided not to sign

and went to college and had Tommy John surgery. None of that stuff. Is there another rule change that you'd make? Yes. And I've been laughed at for this one, too. Before I tell you this one, I want to tell you I was laughed at, too, for many years for suggesting

there should be a limit on pickoff throws and I was ridiculed by so many people for that. So this is the one that I'm currently being ridiculed for and Eventually, maybe they put it in. Hmm. I want a limit to the number of foul balls with two strikes If you can't put the ball in play in four strikes, on the fifth one you're out even if you foul it off. So with after two strikes... Just because there are guys that are good at following off pitches. Because it's boring. Yeah.

It's just horribly boring. Who's our guy that hit like three in the same exact spot in the holes? David Hulse. You get these 15-pitchet bats, 18-pitchet bats, and some people are mesmerized by it. I get it. But I'm not.

I'm bored by it. Foul balls are not fun. They're not interesting. The ball needs to be put in play more often. How do you get the ball put in play more often. How do you get the ball put in play more often? Limit the number of foul balls. And, you know, it becomes the bunt rule after four strikes, it's like a bunt. Even if you foul it off on two strikes, you're out.

Make it the Savannah bananas rule. I was going to say, yeah. The fan catches it. I wanted your thoughts on it. What are your thoughts on the bananas? I haven't seen them live. I've seen lots of the videos. I think it's hilarious. I love it.

And I love they're getting ex-major league players, like Mitch Morland, to participate when they're in Boston, stuff like that. I think that's really cool. What did you think of banning the shift? I love that too. OK. Yeah, I want to see more singles.

I want to see players not always try to hit the ball over the infield. And so, yeah, I like that one. Automated balls and strikes. I like the challenge system in spring training. I was totally open-minded, didn't know if I'd like it or not. I want to see the calls correct. That's why I like instant replay. I think the system needs some changes, but I like instant replay because ultimately they do get most of the calls right. I'm a little horrified at their

reluctance to overturn a lot of the calls, but they, you know, at least it improves the accuracy. Yeah, they had that one a couple weeks ago. We were talking to Jared about that, the whole. Oh, yeah, and the thing is that there are two things that need to be changed. First of all, once it goes to the instant replay room, it shouldn't make any difference what the call was on the field. They should start with a clean slate

and decide what's the right call. They shouldn't have to worry about overturning something. Just get the right call? They shouldn't have to worry about overturning something. Just get the right call. The second thing is the replay officials, the guys in that room in New York, should not be current umpires. They're colleagues of the guys who they're overturning. And those guys are gonna be in the replay room next week,

and they're gonna be in a position to overturn you. To me, it's human nature that those umpires would overturn as infrequently as possible. They're always going to give the umpire on the field the benefit of the doubt. The replay officials should be retired umpires or college umpires, you know, or some other baseball experts. It's not brain surgery to look at all these replays and decide whether the guy was safe or out. And I don't know how they do it in other sports.

You know, in hockey, there's a replay center in Toronto. I don't know if the guys watching it are current referees or linesmen. I'm not aware of that, but they shouldn't be if they are. I got a couple more things. Don't want to keep you all day, but back to your... when you said you were, as an announcer, a young announcer, you actually listened to tapes from across the land to try and pick up phrases and this and that. Did you have a point where you Did you have a point where you were actually using someone else's phraseology, imitating a little bit, but then you realized, oh, I've become myself now, or like I need to cut the

cord on trying to... No. I just think about myself as a young broadcaster, used to actually imitate things I would hear. And then... Well, I use the phrases. But eventually you got to become yourself. I'm very conscious about not using their inflections and things like that, but I use the phrases. I'm still stealing phrases. I'm listening to games all the time on XM and on the, you know, on the At Bat app.

And I hear a phrase that I'm not using that I like and I'll use it. You know, a lot of the stuff that I'll use, I got from Ernie Harwell, when you're talking about coming out of inning breaks. Ernie was really good at that. He wouldn't just say, you know, back at Tiger Stadium, you know, we're going to the fifth inning. He would say, here comes the fifth inning and here comes Al Kailine. Or he would say, Mark Fidrich, get ready to deal him in to Reggie Jackson, Greg Nettles, and Chris Chambliss in the bottom of the fifth. Things like that instead of just saying, well, we're back at Tiger Stadium.

And Ernie had a lot of kind of homey expressions, some of which were a little too corny for me to use. But, you know, all the different announcers around the league have their own. And I've incorporated a lot of them into what I do. Do you have a clock in your head in the sense of... Giving the score? Yeah. Because I was told as a young announcer... Use a sundial?

Well, no, there are people tuning in all the time. Right. And you have to be conscious that somebody just tuned in a minute ago, and you can't go too long without, like, you think everybody's been listening my whole game. Right. My rule has always been, and this was something I picked up from Jerry Howarth, longtime Toronto Blue Jays announcer, every time a new batter comes up, you give the score. Without exception. It doesn't matter whether it was a one pitch at bat to the previous batter. Just get in the habit. Every time you introduce a new batter, you somehow work the score in. Now when you get one of

these long at bats, you need to also give the score when it gets to you know six, seven, eight pitches. So what I do is anytime a count gets to three and two, I give the score. And then I'm conscious of after there are a few foul balls, when I start getting exasperated, I know it's time to give the score. Are you resetting the situation too? Sometimes.

And I'm also very frequently, and probably not frequently enough, recapping the scoring in the game. Yeah, what happened? You two in, okay, it's, okay, the Rangers and Giants are tied two, two in the eighth, how did this happen? Well, I need to tell you that, you know, Marcus Simeon had a two run single in the first inning

and the Giants had a two run single in the fourth from Willie Adamis. And you know, maybe that's all you need to know, but I'm also, when I have time, and there too, with the pitch clock, there's not as much time to do that as often. Telling you that Jack Leiter went three and a third, and he walked four and allowed two runs,

and was erratic with his control. You do need to do that a few times as the game goes on. Did the cookie lady ever set you up, or does that just grieve on TV? She used to set us up. Unfortunately, at some point during her reign as the cookie lady, I was told by nutritionists that I needed to go gluten-free,

and I couldn't eat any of her cookies anymore. Mm. But fortunately, there's a wonderful woman named Patty Patek, who bakes incredible gluten-free treats for me and still sends them up to the to the broadcast booth. And then my last thing. Oh, I guess I have two more because I was amused at I heard you on with Jared and you were talking about having a mustache at one point and yeah and you never you have not fallen to the beard sensation of the nation. I don't like the feeling of it. I've done it during the offseason and I never make it past

a couple of weeks. Oh yeah, there's the... But at one point you said, hey, everybody's got a mustache, let's try a mustache. Sure, that's what we did back then. I even had that, it looks like my fro is growing out, but I even had an Afro for a while, which was a big craze back in the late 70s. Well, you look good in a coat and tie. Yeah, let's go back to that.

You're in the air conditioning now, come on. Imagine that guy, the streets of Havana, he's got the Cuban hat on. Big cigar. guy the streets of Havana he's got the hat on. I'm told that you are the greatest Immaculate Grid player in history. I might be the best around here but there are guys much better than me. Tyler Kepner who's a baseball rider for the New York Times slash The Athletic, is the best. He's regularly gets scores under 10. He's absolutely phenomenal.

He just has an encyclopedic memory for all these old guys. He's, you know, you know when he does an Immaculate Grid, there's a lot of black and white pictures on it. And that's usually a zero point something percentage. But he's the best that I've run into. But I love doing it. You know, I do it every day. I do it while I'm on the exercise bike

or on the elliptical machine. And sometimes I'll actually do it twice and try and come up with different players. To beat yourself? Second time. Either to beat myself or I'll try and get the highest possible score. Oh, to the most percentage.

The most percentage. Yeah. Yeah, because I thought this might be just boring for you, but it is a little bit. You have to come up with these other little things to... Because, yeah, every day I'm getting about four or five, and then some days, you know, I can get them all, but... I almost always get them all. It's just a matter of, you know, what the score's gonna be.

Right. Can I get an obscure reliever I can get them all, but... I almost always get them all. It's just a matter of, you know, what the score's gonna be. Can I get an obscure reliever who pitched for the Rockies and the Giants? And fortunately, I spent so much time with baseball cards as a kid that my knowledge of players in the late 50s and early 60s is still extremely good. And there are huge holes in my memory,

but somehow it doesn't apply to those guys. I can tell you, you know, four or five of the teams that Frank House played for and Gene Freeze played for. And there was a discussion over the weekend on whether Brandon Crawford was the best shortstop in Giants history. And I could immediately go back and say, well, was he as good as Jose Pagan?

I don't know if he was as good as Hal Lanier. Was he as good as Tito Fuentes? Was he as good as Chris Spire? Was he as good as Travis Jackson? All of those guys popped into my head, you know, without even giving it a thought. And that's, you know, it's really kind of sick, but that's how my mind works. Was he better than Johnny LaMaster? Probably hit better than Johnny LaMaster, but Johnny could pick it. What about a Brewer giant? Yeah, you're now looking at today's.

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