The Dumb Zone FREE - Nico speaks after Mavs elimination and Jared Sandler on MLB replay | DZ 4-21-25

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

Get every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to the show at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneNico Harrison holds court as the Mavs were eliminated over the weekend. Jared Sandler on if replay is ruining some big moments in baseball. And a weekend check from over the Easter weekend and there's a fish in our studio (00:00) - Open: Easter weekend check (35:57) - Jared Sandler: Is replay a problem (01:08:13) - Sports: Kidd calls season incredible (01:23:52) - Nico Harrison postseason press conference (01:52:25) - News: Breaking Pope news now (02:15:25) - VM birthdays/Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Is everything going OK? It's swimmingly. I am a guy who, and I'm not going to be the one that brings it up today, but I mean, I've dealt with an erratic coworker in the past and wondered what's going on, and then all of a sudden, he's not here for a month. Are you going to be here?

Boy, that sounds nice. Maybe. Maybe I should. Or are you going to be with Boy, that sounds nice. Maybe. Maybe I should. Or are you gonna be with Eddie? God, I love Eddie. Maybe. Do you wanna feign? So you have a lot going on at home.

Is that what's going on? And you wanna feign alcoholism just so you can go get a month to get away from it all? Yeah, I wish I had a cool story. I don't, I'm just late. I'm just late today. I'm sorry.

Do we start the show? I'm Blake Jones. Damn McDonald. I'm Jake Kim. Yeah. You know, what is it, the things that fall off the tree and I blow them off my driveway, the pollen has been really thick these days, but nothing like the tension. Right now is this room that we're in, not at our Fox Four studios today, although we'll

be on Fox Four TV tonight. Taking over the Steve Noviello thing. Last call with Steve Noviello. I'm very excited to see that. We're on there tonight and tomorrow and like the next day and the next day, right? I think so, yeah. And I think tomorrow is the gay not gay episode. Yeah, no, I've always wanted to be a part

of a crossover event, you know, like Chicago Med and Fire. But pursue it to the tension. Because I did leave for a month in parentheses 14 shows, I don't really bring things up. you if you want to handle whatever's happening just saying recently a little late on Friday and a little late today and that's just the point is if it was if you weren't if you didn't have an a on every report card before this I wouldn't even notice your B plus. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Like you're like the perfect dude, you're always on time, you're way ahead of time, and now that you're like today, it's like, ah, throw me five more minutes. It's just an odd situation. Would you agree, Blake? You're a guy who prides yourself on doing things. You know, you can set your watch to Blake.

No, you can't. You really can't? I will be late to my own funeral, as they say. I'm a habitually late person. But you're in a nasty mood right now. No, yeah, because I'm rushed and I'm stressed and I feel bad that I was late and I make everyone else feel weird. Worst of all, E is probably thinking, well, I hate this right now.

Here's the thing. He loves this. The thing about E, and we know E, you don't, which is- Well, I've talked to E more than you have. Well, what you would know is that that's not his name, had you been here when he got here. That's right. He might want to hide his name.

This is our friend, who's, I mean, unless he... We have a sit-in today. We're high atop my garage. Maybe Blake's right and he wants to hide his name. Do you want to hide your name? No, I'm Randall. Yeah, it's Randall. So our friend Randall, I know the field he works in.

It's fascinating. Yep. We got to know each other. Yeah, he brought a... I brought the fish. The, the goldfish? The fishler. The fishler is his name? Yes, it is his name.

All right. I feel like we're going to learn more about that. We figured he had more bits than just... He's got a lot of bits, yeah. If you're carrying a fish in somewhere and then he's like, oh yeah, but he's got this name, you're like, oh, you're not surprised. You're carrying a fish around. So that we can tease two closing remarks.

What do you do for a job? Randall E., as Blake would disrespectfully term you. I'm a data scientist in agriculture and I'm also a volleyball coach. Data scientist in agriculture. What's your degree in? Geospatial information sciences. So the thing we were talking about on Friday of how to... Smart people listen to it. The bar not just can't read. Like they must be screaming at the radio or whatever. I love it. I absolutely love it.

And we'll learn more about that later. In the coming... Now that Blake's settled in. Weeks and months. It'll be a big factor in everyone's world. So that's behind us. How you feeling though, Blake? Are you good?

Let's do a weekend check. Should we do that? Sure. It was a big Halo tournament this weekend. The Halo Major. So he's able to work that in. Yet, oh, I'm so. Listen, I wouldn't have led with it. What was I...

Okay, you want me to just sit in front of my computer all weekend? Was that the... He should have been grinding film and not filming this thing. Why were you not throwing a podcast through a tire in your face? Yeah, I should have been throwing a podcast through a tire this weekend. Why were you not pushing heavy podcasts? Slaving over hot inco. Okay so you've watched some people video games.

See now it's just reduced to where I don't want to talk about it. You know if you're going to it, let me mention this though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're going to the Halo tournament, you could have taken Elite Rides DFW. That's our big sponsor, travel and transportation sponsor. Yeah. Want to call it that? Elite Rides DFW, they've got an app.

And they're so awesome. They're great for going to a nice sporting event. They're great for going to a concert. Who is it? Nate Bargotse. I'm already scheduling Elite Rides for my Nate Bargotse concert in the fall. Of course you are. Yeah. I love that. No, I just bought some tickets to Nate

Bargatze and I was thinking I got to make this a good night. You can do that for sure if you're a normal person and you have something coming up in the next couple weeks. Oh yeah, okay. You could also reach out to them at 844RIDEDFW. Yeah. The promo code is DZ15. That'll get you 15% off your first ride. As Dan said, they do have an app with AI booking. Makes it super easy. So you need a Sprinter Jet Van, corporate executive shuffle.

You know they got that corporate BS going on all over DFW. Somebody's like, hey, find us a ride. Make it an elite ride. Oh, there's also a note here that if you book them to go to a Halo tournament, they will not debate with you whether or not that's a sport or if it's gay. At 844 RIDE DFW. They won't even talk to you about whether, shouldn't you be working on something for

your show at home instead of just wasting your time at this Halo tournament? Nope, they'll just drive you and give you a water. At 844 RIDE DFW, DZ15 get you a diskey. Jake took alcohol, maybe I'll do heroin. What do you mean I took it off the board? You claimed it, I need something to just go away. I did ask my mom this weekend if she thought she would try heroin if she makes it to a hundred.

And I asked her if she could score heroin. She said she thinks she can get heroin quicker than I could. That's awesome. I'm not going to disagree. Your mom lives in a rent controlled apartment in a dying town in the Midwest, so her ability to find opioids. Not that. She worked as a public defender for years. So she has a Rolodex of guys, and then she started telling me tales about this guy that she would call for the heroin who never did drugs, didn't drink, didn't smoke, but he was a heroin dealer.

Wow. But he had a great roofing business on the side. Got to put the money somewhere. Or the heroin business, I think, was the side. Got to put the money somewhere. Or the heroin business, I think, was the side. Yeah. Because he also, she said she advised him to get a vasectomy because he had like eight kids from eight different ladies. And she's like, you know, I'm thinking the root of,

you're saying I really need to, I got to spend, I got this child support and this child support. And that's why I'm selling heroin. What if we go to the root of the problem we go to the that's awesome yeah anyway back to your heroin or do you have it you probably have a good weekend check I I'll do mine real quick my weekend check is never as exciting as you guys don't have the kids at home or anything. Which leaves me plenty of time to slave over hot Google sheets

and work on setting up our stream for this week. We're doing a live stream on Thursday night for the NFL Draft. I think we're starting at 7. It's gonna kill you. What time does the draft start? We're just playing around 7. The draft starts at 7. Start at 7. Okay. I just know you have to be here for it to start. What else did I do? Oh the one story I did want to tell you, so Friday, and we got a lot of sports to get to, and I can't believe it, like every day I get slapped in the face

about Luca. I think Friday is when the whole Malika Andrews things dropped. Yeah, like, fun fact about me, I've not watched it. Okay. Well, at least I have one clip for you. I just basically was like, look, when this happens on the show, it'll be fresh to me. And other than that, I'm not seeking this out. But apparently a little Kip, who is one of my two toy poodles, he's eight years old. He's got an enlarged heart. Hmm. And cares too much. His liver is also very big. So that's what makes him cough and hack, because apparently

these big giant organs are pushing against his esophagus or something. So anyway, we went to the cardiologist, had to get some kind of a scan on his heart to rule some things out, and he's on some kind of heart medicine. Now where does that take place? It was in Flower Mound. There's like a special, okay. Yeah, so it was a half hour away. And I had to fill out some forms before that.

So at the dog cardiologist anyway, I did note that just like at the doctor's office, but not in every waiting room, they have a couple of seats that are plus-size seats and I just wondered is that like a pet owner thing like I'm gonna need somewhere bigger to sit than this normal human chair wait did you say you've seen this in regular waiting rooms? no regular in doctors offices huh but I never really see it in just like at AutoZone or something. Huh, I've never seen it anywhere. Okay, it's like there's just

regular chairs and then there's like the it's not a double chair but it's kind of a chair and a half for a bigger human. Anyway, that's one thing I noted, but then I noted also on the appointment registration form. Owner, so I wrote my name, first name, Dan, last name, McDowell. Then it said preferred pronoun. She, he, he, him, they, them, or other. Why? Why do we do that at the, is it because, again, this kind of my pet owner thing, like you ever meet a dog groomer? You might want to know what their preferred pronoun is. I don't know if this is a.

We've highlighted this before at the pet store. So yeah, applies to pet groomer. Not a place where your southern manners of thank you, ma'am, are always going to be comfortable. You're going to give a thank you, ma'am, rather, and immediately want it back. It's very odd that somehow it just seems pet grooming is a very divert. Well, not really a very diverse area. No it's a

very, it's androgynous females. It's females primarily that seem either, and I don't get it, like I love pets, I like grooming. Yeah I just don't know where's your manly man, where's your influencer who's working out in the morning, where's there? It just all seems very true. It's really weird. Anyway, and then at the end of the form, it says, if CPR is needed to be performed,

do you want us to do it? And then you check yes or no. And so the lady got the tech came out. The individual, yes. That works there and I was like, well that seems weird. Like why would I have to? And she's like, he they were they said, well I wouldn't do it. I go, wait. Like you're saying that, like if I'm saying don't perform CPR, I'm saying just let them die.

And she goes, yeah, but I've seen what happens. She goes, at least on people, I've seen what can happen if you perform CPR, like broken ribs and just puncture. And I'm like, yeah. But then they'd be a lot like. I go, so then I didn't want to go against what this person would do in their personal life in front of this person.

So I said, you know what? I did a quick lie in my head, a white lie. I said, this is my daughter's dog. So I think I better put yes, because I just, if I was to put no and they said, well, the reason we didn't perform CPR and save your dog is because you wrote no on this. Yes. Omission and commission.

Because someone said maybe they'd have a broken rib. Yeah. No, you made the right call. I think they need to review the employee handbook. That was not their role to step in there. And that's the weird thing too is I recently, I had a tumorous malignant, I had a malignant cancerous tumor. And they said that the only way that I would live

is if they took it out, but I didn't, I was like, isn't that mean I'm gonna get cut? So I just didn't do it. Yeah, there could be blood. Yeah, they were like, we'll have to cut it. I get freaked out by that. That's ridiculous. I'm going to tell you a quick one for my weekend,

and we can build to Blake over there. OK, well, I was just going to say, just to wrap it up, I finished White Lotus finally. We'll review it tomorrow. OK. You're fully done? No, I watched all the way up to the finale and then... That's really weird.

I know. My wife watched it, like, while we were away or I was busy and I was only watching it to hang out with her. Okay, cause... And it drove her crazy. She's like, you don't know, want to know what happened? And I thought, no. It was such a slow burn and then the finale actually delivers like really good. I imagine there's a somewhere we've got to have some gunshots from the,

uh, the opening scene of the show, but I just don't care. However, I am interested in what you think about it. Okay. Um, roast twins update. I just want you to know we have scheduled roast twins, uh, visit home at the same time. They're going to come back, uh, late May. So if anybody has a business or something they want reviewed by the roast twins they will be back in full force they're gonna be here for seven days together making all of our lives hell around here. Okay maybe they'd like to come out to an event. Maybe maybe we'll do a just a stream something. Maybe we'll stream a, what's that show they want?

Love Island. Ooh. We could do that. And then, oh, my one Easter thought. Because on Twitter, if you want a show that you're on board with a religion, you'll do like a little thing or He is risen or something like that has anyone done Because everybody does bits with everything has anyone done a he is risen

But it's R I Z Z I N and then like a cool picture of Jesus I don't know who did it, but I saw one yesterday with the Rizler I don't know who did it, but I saw one yesterday with the Rizler, stylized as Christ. Okay, so it does. Somebody has put Riz and Rizan together. Okay, because I'm sure I couldn't be the first one, but if I was. Yeah, there are shirts where Jesus is dunking a basketball

and it says he is Rizan. Yeah, maybe with Oakleys, like what Jared Sandler was wearing on yesterday's broadcast. We'll talk to him at 12.15 today. No, I have an Easter thought. I'll save that to the end of mine. I did a Walmart pickup order on Friday, which I've not done in a while. It's been a minute.

Walmart, a big player in the Easter world when you need to buy a bunch of shit from China. So Walmart pick up order, and a guy comes out Friday evening and I walk back there, I don't know, it's probably normal, you guys all help, right? You get out, you help him load up. And I don't know why I said this, I find myself doing that a lot lately.

Before I was just like half Like at the legal limit of alcohol and never wanted to talk to anyone ever at five o'clock on Fridays just moved through now I just said Hey, you know, it's kind of fucked up. They don't have this set up for us to tip you guys Was that in the first five minutes? No, I was like they don't have like a tipping thing and he's like, I know he's like it's really Kind of weird but it is what it is he goes so you'd have to have cash if you wanted yeah but

like they've got an app you're entering the pickup on the app they could easily put a deal in there that said 10 15 20 your custom tip easily always everybody's asking for tips these days I say easily I understand there's an infrastructure in place they would have to build on the back end they could do it if they wanted to and the guy goes yeah my buddy got fired last week for taking a tip for taking a tip I was like we're for real and he's like yeah he's like ladies slid him a five and he didn't say anything to him about it he's like I don't know if he would have gotten fired if he told him why

would you I don't know boy that's just I was like that's that's the man I know needing control right there's no reason. That's the man. I know. Needing control, right? There's no reason that they had to know that. I know. So that's my story from the front lines of those guys. What I did Saturday night, I watched the weather. I watched the weather. And I heard this.

Blake, you're really into the new terms they make up on local weather when we have big weather? Yeah. I've never heard this one from NBC5's Rick Scott. This has appeared to spin up southeast of Agnes and southwest of Springtown. That's gonna be... Huh? Porcupines. Good. You got... Listen, we're in the country here so you're gonna clean up with Agnes and Springtown. Agnes and southwest of Springtown. That's going to be for this storm in Parker County. And most likely it's right here. It's going to be right here on the velocity couplet. See this one,

this velocity couplet we can see clearly. The velocity couplet. What are we doing here Ricky? No. We got a velocity couplet on our hands. It just made that up. I'm aware of the concept of velocity being involved in the formulation of a tornado but past that he's just guessing. I don't know. He sounds authoritative. He sounds like he's doing surgery too as they're zooming in and he's like all right. It's gonna be right here on the velocity couple see this one this velocity couplet we can can see clearly Watch out for the velocity couplets you do single it you're mostly fine But you get two of those bad boys locating tornadoes hook echoes and velocity couplets And you know Rick loves it hook echo

Like a guy with a he knows the fan graphs terms and you don't yeah. Yeah, I don't remember why that was on Sports must have just been over It's probably what it was the Lakers were getting the piss kicked out of him late in the game And I was just over there and then my last thought Easter And then my last thought Easter We hosted Easter and I think we're gonna be hosting Easter a lot I think Which I because we like doing it why your entertainers we are entertainers The home is set up for it open concept very open concept grass fake as could be

But if we're going to be hosting it, yesterday marks the end of the era where I'm participating in regular Easter. Because we have probably eight kids between the ages of three and seven or eight. I imagine that'll be growing or at least those kids would just be getting older which actually works better with my idea This just like the egg hunt is done. Oh Really we're done with that. Oh Do you hide baskets just for your kids? I I did hide baskets for my kids, which I didn't know about hiding baskets That's not something you grew up with no we would have a basket like it was Santa.

It would just be a basket, but I learned from Bluey about hiding baskets, so I did some clues, and then she found the basket in a different part of the house. But that quote egg hunt is basically just your yard, your tree, it's obvious, dude, it's too many eggs. It's 20 eggs a kid. When I got 160 eggs in a very medium-sized front yard

with two trees. That's kind of my old thing of hating the field, just eggs. You just go run out there and grab as many as you can. You could see them all. And I didn't know about that. That wasn't around when I was growing up. But then the churches started doing that. Heck, the White House does it,

but what we do now, it pretty much just resembles that. We have too many eggs and not enough space, there's no challenge to it whatsoever. I was packing the eggs on Saturday night so I could sit here and tell you that they are only about quantity, not quality, nobody wants half the shit that's in those eggs. It would be an egg with like two jelly beans in it.

I'm like, why are we even doing this? Right. What is the economy we're participating in right now? Cause I'm going to promise you, everyone's just throwing those jelly beans away. Nobody even wants them. The two, it's like, it's not even. And I never did an egg hunt for eight kids.

So that's different. When I had two kids. Yeah. You get crazy with it. Well, you got like whatever, you can go 30 eggs and two, they're all of two color, so two of each color. Right. And so, so that means if you find a dark blue and then you find another dark

blue, leave it there cause your sister's going to find that sometime. You can get fun with it. So that they, cause I've always been of the, you got to have an equal amount of stuff. Yeah, we try that. We try that. We were very socialist in that way. But if you have eight kids, that'd be kind of tough to police.

It's tough to police. And then your littlest kid is not going to get as much. But mainly, it's also boring. Yeah. It's boring, and I feel like the payoff, we're having, I'm going to have field day. Next year, I'm just going to create, like, OK, what do we have for resources?

You were going to bring 20, let's talk about what we want to get. So instead, do some different bits? Yeah, let's do some bits. We've got a backyard. I got throwing nets. I got a soccer goal. I got, let's do some bits. Let's have a field day and a little competition have little teams make this fun

The egg hunt is it was a waste of time You pack the eggs the night before and it's a bunch of shit nobody wants then you do the egg hunt none of the kids Actually want to do it because it's just walk out in the front yard and pick them up. What about Carter? He would be the one but I feel like even if yesterday I had been like, hey, we're going to do a deal. Would you run around that thing, come back, pick this egg up, and put it over there, he would have had more fun. Yeah, Bricks enjoyed looking for the eggs.

So I guess we're still in the. Did you have a ton of kids? No, we just did one just for him at the house. See, that's fine. That's different. I have to spice it. If you had just your two kids, it'd be all right. Completely.

Because then you wouldn't have to hide 80 eggs. Right. But if I'm going to be doing this, we're going to, I don't know, make it like at the Cathlawn. Get a little rifle. That's weird that you never did the, I thought everybody did the Easter basket thing. If we did, I don't remember.

Because I have great memories of turning on the shower in the morning, but then all of a sudden it's on the Easter bat. Oh, man. I didn't realize was your bag hid Or your basket. We always did eggs eggs. Yeah, okay No, we hid the whole basket and then my kids would find out it only takes a few years But there's not that many places you can hide a basket So they're like they just go over to the dryer. There it is again. Yeah, he's kind of just doing it for tradition at that point. Yeah.

Clayton, you got anything? Oh, I know he's got something. Clayton's single guy. You spend any money on pay-per-view this weekend? Oh, no, I have a Peacock, so I get that set up automatically Set up automatically WrestleMania WrestleMania big two-night event. Yeah Very rare your game falls on my birthday. So that's right. Yesterday was your birthday. What a treat So for 20 birthday Clayton, Jesus Hitler. That's right Posted up on the couch with some Taco Bell from uber eats

Watch WrestleMania. I Post it up on the couch with some Taco Bell from uber eats and watch WrestleMania I Feel like if you looked at Clayton you'd be like and then he told you that you go. Yeah. All right. Yeah, okay Looks like guy that might watch WrestleMania with Taco Bell from uber eats. Yeah, is it a good event? Uh Night one was great The triple threat from Roman Reigns, CM Punk and Seth Rollins. Masterpiece. Five stars all across the board. Had a lot of title changes the first night. Really good. Second night we had the main event with John Cena and Cody Rhodes and that was meh. It was okay. The Rock wasn't there and he was very into that storyline so kind of disappointed not to see him come out.

But we got Becky Lynch back. Yep So lunch oh, I recognize her well Ty Walker's in Chad he's enjoying this right now No, I saw it blowing up on Twitter, but I saw Stone Cold wrecking ATV into the crowd Yes, don't cold did into the crowd. Yeah Stone Cold did. Stone Cold came in on his signature ATV and got a little reckless but no it was good weekend. Yeah fun times you guys. Y'all are not interested in this. No I'm listening. We may not be but there are tons of people who are. I know, Ty. Well, no, I think more than that. I'll go quickly because Jared's waiting by.

And Jared, sorry you have to hear this. But yeah, Halo Major, the first one of the season, was this weekend in Arlington at eSports Stadium. So every rejoin was pretty hilarious. Welcome back to eSports Stadium. It was very generic. What is that? It's like a former Convention Center, isn't it? Yeah, but it's flipped it. It's just that place

Yeah, crossing the ballpark. Yeah, we've been there before from the old ballpark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay well, I guess they it's just for eSports now and They've branded they've sold the name of the stadium. Yeah, which I thought to for eSports now. And uh. You're fine. They've branded, they've sold the name of the stadium? Yeah, which I thought. To generic eSports? To eSports. And it also was funny because they would, I don't know how they have this in their budget,

but they would do like the drone flyover of the old convention center. And of course, like all the parking lots are packed because the Rangers are playing the Dodgers this weekend. And so they were giving you the idea that all of these cars were for this Halo tournament. So I was like, I know better. I love it.

I know better than that. Some Lucas symmetry, so my favorite Halo competitor, whatever, switched teams in the off season, which just reminded me that you can actually follow the player and not the team. All of these people that traveled into Texas for this event were quickly caught up to how Texas can be. Friday night, a transformer blew

and the entire convention center lost power. And so we were all just there watching and bam, flip of a switch, lost power, welcome to Texas. The next night, there's a tornado watch. So the next morning on the broadcast, can't believe there were tornadoes in the area. You're not gonna believe this. We were in a tornado watch.

It's like, yeah. That's called Friday in April. Yeah. Where it like I- What's Rick Mitchell? Velocity couplet. Yeah, there were some velocity couplets flying around. But yeah, that's all they were talking about

is I was hunkered in my hotel room, I couldn't believe it. I didn't even know there was one. It's how little it was on our radar. So what do they do when the power goes out? They had to just move some stuff to the next morning. They had to talk to each other in real life and everyone panicked.

Yeah, it was just, it was kind of an embarrassing scene, honestly. But got it resolved, whatever. It was a great tournament, and I don't think we've quite put a word to this yet, but you know, you buy a white Honda Accord, then you notice how many white Honda Accords there are. And I'm wondering if younger broadcasters or inexperienced ones are now looking at Tony Romo as a

guide to how to broadcast because I only pulled two of these there were tons of it but here's the Romofication of broadcasters. There's a lot to love about that listening for Shopify Rebellion and they are now in a commandingly think how close this was when we went into the listening it's 42 to 27 now. Game has been blown wide open there and once again if you're a Shopify rebellion fan You love the comms that you're hearing these guys are so intense if you're a fan if you're a fan It's your fan or kill game and you're hoping maybe for a bit more of a comfort zone there if you're a face fan God, I hate it, but the pressure's and stop it. I like this play from Suppressed. Yeah, that's tough. I think it's too niche for it to be actually a thing

because I'm pretty sure we're the only ones who notice it. But it drives me crazy. And Romo's not the first one. It's a thing. But you don't need to say if you're a fan to point out that you're the announcer. And if you're an Optic fan, no. Yeah. No, you. You're a perspective and opinion. And in the event that you need to speak in that way

Vary it up. Yeah, but it just it triggered me and you know, you're right Roma wasn't the first but he does it a lot He does it alone. That's when I Started keeping a mark of it So are you do you do the deal because you're such an old head where you go into the tournament in person? But you listen to the play-by-play on your no, they have it playing through the arena. Okay No, it's not gonna be synced up your heads. No my dad. No, just give me 15 seconds So you walk in there's the main stage on the left where they have the the POVs in the middle and the players cams On the side over to the right

They have like secondary tournaments where if you wanted to play Halo 2 or Halo 5 or whatever there's like a big pit, the passion pit they call it, where everyone is playing and then you have like a featured side stage where all the other pool play games are going on with the POVs but it's a cool scene. I took Brooks on Sunday. It was fun. Oh you went two days? I went three. Oh wow, I was there every day you went Friday after the show Yeah, my wife dropped me off at my halo tournament on Friday evening and then picked me back up then Yeah, went Saturday and Sunday. I love it, man Tommy whatever dude you guys do I go watch them and I think you know what?

I'm gonna be better than I'll go play and just suck on my own But it's cool WrestleMania and a halo tournament Look at us over here dudes So today, what are we doing? We're doing Jared now or 1215. What are we doing? Is he he's on now if you're any form we also have We're gonna do news and all that kind of stuff that we usually do, but Nico Harrison, not the former Tennessee quarterback.

That's an interesting story too. Yeah. That I might like to get into this week. But that probably won't happen today because Nico Harrison is having a press conference. Allowing cameras and microphones, incredible, at about one o'clock and we're going to carry that and watch it together and just see if there's anything comes of that. But let's say Jared is going to be brought to us by Qualis Roofing. The guys at Qualis, speaking of storm season... so you

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Do you read me, Jared? I got you, Gary. Yay. What's going on, man? What's's up guys? The great Jared Sandler. You don't have your sleeve and your sunglasses on for us today. Did you like that or? I did like that. Swagged out Sunday. Swagged out Sunday, repping Adoles after his walk off. Dude. The muscles aren't the same, but there's a difference. I know that you're a, I think you're very good at not being a homer during your broadcast,

but I also know that you're a fired up sports guy like me who just wants to yell let's effing go rather than actually call the game Especially after the way that yesterday ended up I feel like Saturday night had to be like as Excited as you've been to get a win That's possible in the regular season like they needed that so bad Yeah, that's a non for a non-Astro's win. Josh Miss walk off last year against the Astros was about, I mean, that's for a non-September playoffs

on the line or playoff positioning on the line type game. That's probably number one in recent years and yeah Saturday was really cool now like It's really weird because externally I mean i'm i'm stoic because i'm trying to figure out. All right. Hey, this game is now all of a sudden over What are all the things we need to do to make sure we're having the you know, The best postgame show and getting all the stuff ready to go. But like inside I was so fired up. I actually think, I don't know, I'm pretty sure like I threw my hand up like at the end of breakfast club, like when that ball was off the bat because it was so clear

it was gone. So yeah, I mean, it was, it's pretty cool. And sometimes it's fun when, uh, you know, I don't have to, you know, be so, uh, even keel and, and, and can just enjoy the moment. And I was able to do that then. Yeah. Cause after, after Friday night, Friday night was the, uh, the loss with the Grom and I, are we going Yamamoto? Am I correct in saying that properly? Yeah. Yeah. Yoshinobu Yamamoto. So that's just always one of those deals where you lose the ace duel game one

and you're like, okay, we've gotta get out of here without the sweep. And then Saturday night there was, was there a wild pitch? There was an air. How did somebody get, it was late... Before the Adoles put out before he came up. Saturday night there was uh...

Was that me? Was there a wild pick? I'm not up. I'm just trying to go back to Saturday night's game. Um, oh it was the uh, the pickoff. The pickoff. The pickoff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, so And that was I mean Nathan Valdi got the error, but that was. Okay. So, yeah. So, and that was, I mean, Nathan Ivaldi got the error, but that was on him. You know, typically in that situation, the first baseman maybe isn't going to hold the runner on as closely or might start and then vacate. And obviously Ivaldi, you know, thought Smith was there. It would have been a balk either way. You can't throw the first one. First base is not occupied by a defensive player.

But because the ball got away, the play was able to continue. And yeah, and then you get the automatic double, which would have, would have scored that run. Yeah. Okay. Right. It would have stopped at third, but because the extra base got, got into scoring position, it was able to score. So yeah, that, that would have been crummy. I mean, here's the deal too, like the Rangers were awfully close to having three outstanding starting pitching performances and come away with no wins. Yeah. You know, they have, and oddly there are only three pitchers who have gone seven innings against the Dodgers. Two of them are Rangers, DeGrom and then yesterday Malley and the Rangers didn't win either of those games but starting pitching is looking great. Obviously the bats need to get going and hopefully, you know this week on the road they can because

The the waiting game is getting a little tougher, you know What about the controversy to end last night's game So What'd you guys think did you think forget call on field did you guys think? Did you think, forget call on field? Did you think safe or out? Well, to me it looked like he was safe. The tag had come off whenever his leg was off. I mean, I saw what you guys saw and you guys did a good job of breaking it down. But, I don't know. It's, for some reason we default to what the call was on the field. And I don't like that.

That's my biggest issue with it. We had a good debate after the game about replay and Dave came out hard charging and he's always had this stance. So just to be clear and to be fair to Dave, it was not reactional to last night's call. He's never really been a big fan of replay. Dave, Bassick and Matt Hicks were all anti-replay. Eric Nadel and I are pro-replay. And I'm not going to let a call that doesn't go in my team's favor change my stance on that. But my biggest issue with replay, and not just in baseball baseball but in football as well, in any sport in which the call on the field basically takes priority is that we give the priority to the call made by the individual who is working with fewer resources or with less of an advantage in making the right call.

So the call to me, call on the field should have no bearing. If you're going to replay the call, then you are now deferring the call to the replay command center and with all of their angles and slow motion and technology, like they're going to make the best call and it might not be 110% conclusive. You know, with the different angles yesterday, you could make an argument that one angle was like pretty clear he was safe and one angle was, I don't know. And I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I know 110% chance he was safe.

I'm pretty sure he was. But it doesn't matter because that umpire on the field doesn't know either. He's making the best call he can make in that moment. And so I'd rather, if we're just gonna, it's the best call you can make in that situation, let the person who's got all the resources make the best call. And if it's, you know, if we know it's 100% right, great.

If we don't, whatever, it's still the best call. It's no different than making the best call on the field. So that's my only issue is that it shouldn't have to trump in certainty the call that was made on the field. I don't like how that impacts anything. And also, I was listening on the radio call at the time, and whenever it was sent to review, Hicks said, look, the crew chief is at second base,

they're not gonna overturn, especially his, and so that's two factors that lead into the replay that really shouldn't, like it it should matter who made the call and What the call was on the field, but I mean yeah, you guys broke it down wonderfully in the postgame I thought yeah, I've never heard that before but that's really yeah, that's really logical. That's great That should be the thought of on every replay and across different sports Why do we always well the only so much weight to the call on the field? It's the only thing I can think is, much like with balls

and strikes and the human element, it's like an ego thing. Is that you're still keeping the crew chief or the referee, umpire, whoever involved in saying, ultimately, we're kind of still going with you here. Yeah. But no, I've never heard it broken down like that. You're going to do it, yeah. Why would you choose the one that is clearly,

like if you were in a vacuum and not, you know. We either let this guy call it in a split second with all this stuff going on around him, or we take the time and we can watch it slow down to the 100th of a second. Okay, yeah, let's go with the guy that's got a bullet flying by his head and then we'll let his call stand. That's really good. Yeah, that's really good. That makes sense. And I don't know, just to be clear, I have zero idea how any of these umpires make some of these calls. Like how could he make that call in that moment from a very specific angle? I mean, it's not easy.

And so there shouldn't be any issue with them getting help from technology and making a call especially in a critical moment that ended the game. Now, I thought Dave made a good point at the end of our discussion last night it's not like the Rangers were guaranteed to come back and score if that call was overturned but certainly would have liked to have seen it played out the one thing I disagreed with on Dave guys and Dave's biggest issue is that this is entertainment and replays are not entertaining and in basketball I agree I mean the the NCAA tournament was horrible to watch in the last two minutes of a close game

because every play is gonna stop and you just hope that there's no whistles. Like, you know, that it's just back and forth. Otherwise you're gonna review this and did it go out of bounds on this, whatever. But I disagree with Dave in that yesterday, I mean, I'm standing there, I'm right next to the Dodgers dugout,

getting ready to go on the field for post game. And there's like a palpable tension, in the ballpark of like, what's the call gonna be? And we're talking about it, it's a conversation, the guys sitting at the game there, what do you think? Safe route, safe right there. I don't look at like that specific moment as an energy suck. I think that they're in like, if the call was overturned,

that place would have erupted and that would have been really entertaining, right? So I disagree. I do think that sometimes replay kind of can bog things down, but like, I don't think that yesterday's situation was an example of bogging down the entertainment. I actually thought that if anything, it heightens the anticipation of a critical call that could either extend the game and give the Rangers a better opportunity or end the game and give the Dodgers a win. Did she have some audio on that?

Yeah, yeah, so I pulled the Raymond post-game rant because it was awesome. And I even thought, even when Nadel came in and said, well what about the Galarraga perfect game that needed replay? And Dave hammered that it's entertainment. We're never gonna forget that ending because there was no replay.

But in the post game, and first, I do wanna compliment Jared, putting this together, how you marry the worlds together, where the TV voices and the radio voices talk in the post game I think is super cool. And it's a super cool feature of Victory Plus. But here's Dave Raymond on. So for me it's just another example of what, people love to argue about instant replay.

If we have the technology, if we have the ability to get it right, then we must. we have the ability to get it right then we must we are Obligated to get it right with instant replay and to that I would say once again replay sucked They did not get it right and so it's and the only reason is because there are humans on the other side too Right and nobody's perfect. I'm not perfect Mike's not well Mike's pretty close But the point is that somebody has to interpret that back there. They interpreted wrong as far as I can tell. And so there's still the human element on the other side of it. So the idea that somehow technology and replay fixes everything and now everything's

perfect is complete poppycock. They missed it again, in my opinion. And so for that reason I'm out, as they say on a popular TV show. For that reason I'm out. Replay stinks. I just don't like it. I never liked it. It doesn't make this any more enjoyable to me. And it always sucks the air out of the arena when a big moment happens because you have to replay it. If it's a big moment, you almost instinctively have to replay it. If it's a big moment you almost instinctively have to replay it and so then that takes all the energy and the fun out of the big moment. If we're in the entertainment business, get ready to replay! It stinks! All right. That is good. I've always, I think you have too, been against the argument that oh if it can't get it right 100% of the time then we just shouldn't have replay. Yeah. I mean if can't get it right 100% of the time, then we just shouldn't have replay.

Yeah. I mean, if it's getting it right 90% of the time, it is now correcting quite a few were better than we were. I mean, by that same, you're just testing the logical extreme of it. I mean, you could say, well, then why don't we just not have umpires? And the players usually will be honest about it.

It would be obvious most times. Sure. Just go to the, go to the dugout. Well, no, well, obviously we're acknowledging we need some safeguards in there and we will accept the faults of those safeguards. And if we can improve that, why not? But I do understand the play by play guy position of like, get this going now. Get this flow, yeah. Like there is a thing of sitting there, you know?

I mean, we've all been in a situation like that, whether it's a work situation, whatever, you're like, God, please just move this forward. Please now, I'm losing everything. So that's part of it too. You're a big fan, Jared, but you hate extra innings, right? Yeah, I mean, when I was a kid, I loved it, but the game to end in nine, for sure.

When I was a kid, there could be nothing better than extra innings in the first game of a doubleheader. Because I'm a kid and I'm like, gosh, I still have nine more in front of me, but I'm getting these free innings. Whereas you're dying. You're like, what are we doing here? I'm not getting paid anything more. Also, I'll tell you, I much more enjoy extra innings

when the Rangers come back to tie the game to send it to extras, rather than when they give up a lead in the next inning. Sure. There is a little bit of a difference there. So as you mentioned, almost got out of the weekend 0-3 with just an insane trio of performances offensively, or excuse me, pitching wise, but offensively the struggles continue. It was nice to see Wyatt back out there yesterday, but outside of that, things are

still somewhat dire straights here. Yeah, you know, yesterday was weird, and I'm going to say when you've gotten off to a slow start offensively, no one wants the small victories, right? You just want to see a game where they score 10 runs on like 14 hits and hit the ball out of the yard three times. But we have in baseball all sorts of data and there is a delineation between the actual result and the expected result based on how hard a ball is hit and stuff like that.

And usually you don't see this type of a disparity. Yesterday, the Rangers expected batting average, I think was somewhere over 300 while the Dodgers was around 170. And all that, you know, you don't wanna get in the weeds on that, that's fine. All that should basically tell you is the Rangers smacked the ball and just got pretty unlucky yesterday. And, you know, it used to be you could, you could watch a game and say that, oh, you know,

the gosh, you know, our team got so unlucky and God, you know, they got whatever. And maybe it was true. Maybe it wasn't, but now we actually have like data to support that. And there are times when I walk away from a game and I ask myself, gosh, did the Rangers get lucky or did they get unlucky? And I'll look at some of that stuff. And sometimes, you know, I'll be totally wrong. Sometimes, you know, the hunch was right,

but yesterday, you know, the Dodgers really did not get a lot of hard contact at all. And the Rangers did, but they hit the ball right at guys. You know, think about Josh Young's line out in the ninth inning, for instance. I mean, that ball was smoked. But at the end of the day, too, like I said, the very beginning, at some point, you got to start scoring runs. And hopefully, White Langford's return will help. You know, the Rangers, there's a lot you can diagnose with, you know, what we're seeing

offensively. You know, they're swinging a lot of pitches outside the zone, which, you know, doesn't help. And there's a domino effect there. Even if you're not striking out necessarily, and the Rangers aren't striking out a ton, you're allowing for the pitcher to put themselves in leverage positions. Or like, for instance, the Rangers have a pretty high chase rate on two-oh counts.

Well, that's not good for a few reasons, but just let's take a very specific example You swing and give the pitcher a strike on a two-o count instead of getting ahead three and oh You're probably saving the pitcher a pitch and a half, you know per instance and those things add up And so maybe it's the difference of Yoshinobu Yamamoto going six innings on Friday instead of seven innings, right? And maybe you get one extra inning out of the Dodgers bullpen and not facing a guy who I think is going to win the NL Cy Young, you know? So little things like that add up. Uh, and then, you know, there are obviously conversations about, you know, getting the Rangers going to the top half of their order.

And, uh, you know, it'll be interesting to see what Bruce Bochy does tomorrow when, you know, open the series against the athletics, but, you know, they got the horses, right? You know, Josh Young's back now Josh Smith's hitting well Why it's back or he's you know, hitting everything on the screws Adoles maybe doesn't have the best batting average But he's putting together way better plate appearances. They got the guys it's just a matter of you know now starting to put it together and we're kind of at a point where you The well, it's early is kind of in the rear view and you need to start seeing the results which has only been saved by the fact the Rangers are

winning games and their pitching has been so good their starting pitching has been unreal and they're great in close games and so that's helped them you know put together a nice record but at some point over the larger sample they're gonna need that offense if they're gonna win the division. Since we talked to you last we should congratulate the Letty crew. Got some sweep sex. Yeah. Sweep sex. You know we have a group of guys who have it packed with their wives where if the Rangers do sweep a series that night. Yeah. They're owed sweep sex. Yeah and and obviously you know the Adoles walk off Saturday night to break up the sweep That keeps you from getting pegged. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's important

but That of course was against the Angels and I just wondered if you were able to Did you interact with Ron Washington at all? Is that fun? Yeah, we did and we actually had him on the pregame. It was really cool. David Murphy, one of the things with the pregame that we wanna do is not like, hey, this guy does all the interviews and even if it doesn't make sense.

So we had David Murphy interview Wash, which was cool because Murphy obviously played for Wash. And now Dan, I kind of miss the Ron Washington era. And now Dan, I kind of miss the Ron Washington era. My experience with Ron Washington was as a Norm intern calling Walsh once a week, getting him on the line for his weekly show with Norm. But I have gotten to know Walsh a little bit over the last few years, and I don't have that same relationship with him that some of the others do because I did. My first year was 2015, which was Banny's first year.

But yeah, I mean, he's funny. He still can't pronounce half the people's names, both on his team, the other team. It's amazing. I mean, he called his, I think he called his catcher, Logan O'Hoppy, who's like a really good player. And I heard a story that he didn't actually know is Zach Neto, they're starting shortstop's first name until like midway through last year.

But he's still got this unbelievable passion. And one day he'll be in the Rangers Hall of Fame and he'll get a big reception. He's still guys like when he's announced after the Angels starting lineup, when Chuck Morgan says something along the lines of, the Angels are managed by Ron Washington or whatever, like you hear a big cheer still.

And it's obviously been several years and several mentions of his name in that ballpark and it hasn't died down at all. He's awesome. Yeah, I didn't know if you worked with him, but I just wondered if it's just fun to interact with him because it was. Yeah. Interviewing was fun. So. Yeah, it is. There are a few managers around the league who you always enjoy seeing. Terry Francona is one of them.

I mean, Terry Francona is just a guy who'll hold court, tell great stories. You know, it's clear why players love him so much. I actually and I never thought I would say this I I love talking AJ Hinch. I think AJ Hinch is one of the brightest baseball minds I've ever had the chance to hear kind of break down Decisions and strategy and I just love getting a chance to talk to him And I always enjoy hearing from Aaron Boone. The way he navigates that media crew in New York is actually, I think, pretty impressive.

Plus, I'm a little biased he's a USC guy. But yeah, A.J. Henge, Ron Washington, Terry Francona, those are three of the best for sure. I was never a huge Joe Madden guy. I think Joe Madden likes the sound of Joe Madden's voice. I'm not saying he's not a good manager, but some people would tell you, Oh, Joe Madden, he's the best. I, he's not like top five for me.

Some of those other guys would, would exceed Joe Madden. Okay. I was just going to say, I mean, you're not going to bring up his opportunity to, to spend time with Woody over the weekend. I saw Woody out there. what is that there yeah okay he I was hoping he'd give me the hat he's the head guy damn we just have him come to town and act like he wasn't even here well were your stats good enough for the hat I it's not always about that that's yes I just want to test you guys

see if indeed you knew what the hat the origin and What it what it meant to God we ran that into the ground? Can I tell you I loved every time you guys played it it was just Not like it It's such a good non sports way to describe like how you're picking the player the game I don't think I have the best status. Yeah I did see Woody I Every time I see Woody I really wonder and it's it's this is not a shot at Woody at all, but just in general

What it must be like when? You have your run as the manager, you don't have the success that allows you to extend your time. And it's not like it was the end of a long run, right? He never quite was able to have success. And then the first year you're gone, they have the turnaround that they had and win the world series. Like, I just, I wonder what that's like to process. I mean, I know he knows he had some impact on the team that

won, or at least that's what I tell myself. Because I'm pretty sure the ticket won Marconi for station of the year the year we left. That's right. Right after we. There was only one thing holding it back. There was one thing they hadn't done yet, and they won it the year after they were rid of us.

I justified that by saying it was Jake that was holding back the ticket from the Marconi. That's right, because you would add one. Right. Well, no, no, no. I don't know. OK.

The point is, I'm just saying it wasn't me. Couldn't have been me. No, and there's probably a lot of mental gymnastics in that situation where it's like, oh, but Bruce Bochy had x, y, and z. And if I would have had that. But what, he's a good guy, and it was good to see him. He's great.

He's the best. All right, well, before we let you go. Well, we gotta do trivia. Oh, we do have to do trivia. We gotta do trivia, and it's brought to you by Ownwell. Ownwell. So most Texas counties have a May 15th deadline for the property taxes. Like, we just got ours in the mail.

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and they will check for things like your phone bill. Does your wife love you? All those sorts of things they can check out at ownwell.com slash the dumb zone. So go save some money with those property taxes due for most Texas counties. So you give trivia online sometimes. I do.

And you gave one the other day. I don't think you ever gave the answer to because I was thinking about it. Four players that were all-stars in different seasons at both shortstop and outfield. Because I just saw that and it stuck with me because I'm like, oh, I think Robin Yount for sure. Robin Yunt, as many will say, has to be one, right? Because he won an MVP, I think, in two different years. So there are a lot of guesses, but that is not correct.

Robin Yount is not one of them? He is not one of them. He was not an all-star outfielder? An all-star shortstop? He was not one of them. There are four. That was like one of the most popular guesses. But yeah, I guess once he made the move, so he obviously started as a shortstop,

but he spent more time as an outfielder, but I guess he never made an all-star team as an outfielder. Well, that is shocking to me was Julio Franco one He was not okay. Well, give me the four then this is not the this is not the official question for today, right? No, that's not the official question. I so Can you give me the names and not give me the whole okay? Yeah, Tom Trash Mookie bets and Ian Desmond who actually did it with the Rangers that I Done with the Rangers and outfield that was kicking around in my head

Like there was a guy who did this a couple years ago the Rangers paid him big money for one year Yeah, do all your trivia questions include at least one Ranger? So no, they don't but there's usually like a relevance to the question like why are we asking like I'm not gonna give you guys this question I'll give you a question we're gonna ask on Thursday I'll post on Thursday so this can give you a head start to be smart but tomorrow's question involves left-handed pitchers with the Rangers because Patrick Corbin's pitching so I try to I try to make it relevant but no there's not always a Ranger in the answer. Okay.

God I think you're wrong in this. You know what you're not wrong so like in a year that Robin Yunt won the MVP he did not make the All-Star team. Yeah, pretty crazy, right? What are we doing? Yeah, I don't know, Dan. He was the MVP in 1989. He had moved from shortstop, he was a center fielder, and he did not make the All-Star team.

Go ahead, Jared. Today's trivia, and how do people win, Blake? What do we do? Get in the chat room. First correct answer in the chat will win Rangers tickets? Okay, so here's the question the Rangers are playing the athletics there are three current or former Rangers Who hit a hundred or more home runs in their career as a member of the athletics? More are they so three players who at one point played a regular season game for

the Rangers, current or former, but in their career had at least a hundred home runs with the athletics. Chris Davis. I think that's right. The one's real easy. The one who's the ball bounced off his head and over for home run once. Right? Is to see one of them did Chris Davis with a cave Did that count or no? Great Chris Davis. Sorry there. Yeah, Chris Davis with a K does count. Okay, so we just gave two of them away Yeah, just give me that give me the third answer in the chat Jared where are you in Sacramento? I'm in Sacramento. Yeah one of one of them plays for The Rangers now

Oh Yeah, we got the right answer in the chat already Marcus Simeon ah Have you been in the new stadium not new So yes, that are helping now. I have not been it'll be there'll be a first for me we have a bunch of the players some of the younger players have been because it is a triple a ballpark in the Pacific Coast League and the rangers are in the Pacific Coast League, but I have not been are you gonna miss going to oakland or no? I actually liked it. Uh their food was was way better the last few years, but like it's a cool booth setup Uh, you get a great view and the like the ballpark

Has a beautiful plane surface. I Liked it there now I didn't have to deal with the amenities from like a player standpoint that for them was definitely not up to snuff But from our standpoint, I had nothing against it All right. Well, we'll talk to you next Monday great stuff. Hey, if you see Marcus Simeon Just suggest getting on base. I will pass that message a lot. Can I sign that off the dumb zone? Yes.

I'll pin it on Blake if you ask for a specific name. Okay. Alright, we'll see ya. Alright. Bye Jared. There's Jared Sandler. The Sandlot Charity is not named after him so he says What do you guys want to do like that whole interview I was just imagining Ron Washington having to learn about Andy Pahez Because the Dodgers have an outfielder Andy Pahez just spelled pages

And he made like an insane play Thursday night's game before they played the Rangers. And then he robbed somebody this weekend at the, and I'm just imagining, Walsh, Pages. Say the name, Pages. Do you wanna do a little sports? Of course. Okay, because. Pause. Look, we're gonna be done with Mavs pretty soon.

But we got today's Niko thing. Just the after the Mavs got bounced, Jason Kidd talking. I wanted to play you a couple little clips from his postgame press conference. He was asked by Tim McMahon to evaluate their season. evaluate their season? Incredible season When you look at the injuries That we've had the change For us to even be here playing in this game tonight. It's incredible which just shows the character of that group in that locker room

the fight being prepared Moving on you know learning from our losses and also our wins. So an incredible season with the change and injuries, some would say we shouldn't even be here. So give those guys in that locker room a lot of credit. No. Jason, how much was the fact that the rebound tonight? I just kept that in. Yeah, thank you. To redirect like gosh we're kind of talking about the season and now you can expand on why it's so incredible and now let's go

back to sports for the game. But he was then asked to kind of go back to it. And I just want you or he wants you to know a lot of things were wrong this year. The coaching, well let me watch the coaching film and I see nothing but good things. But with all the different pieces that we've had as a staff I think everyone has done an incredible job to keep these guys prepared and motivated. Just want you to know. If you read Tim Cato's article this morning, this might have been in McMahon's a little bit as well,

but just, they're starting to make it seem my kid was frustrated with Luca, but certainly not real thrilled with the way this shit was thrown in his lap and you know the injuries which may be partially to blame the training staff or Nico that kid is saying like I did a pretty good job keeping this thing together for you but are we to believe like so because I want to believe, or I think Kid's job would be if he was told I am on the precipice of a Luka trade, I would like Kid to be the one that grabs Nico by the shoulders and said, absolutely not.

What are you doing? I know. That is ridiculous. Yes, I am frustrated by him, but come on, dude. It's a Michael Jordan. Right now, the thing is that you got... I was trying to find an analogy this weekend. Just thinking you bought a lottery ticket and it actually hit and it's for 10 million dollars and your wife gave it to Her friend for like 10 scratch offs because what if you went, you know, like no you had it already You already got lucky now because now you're just dreaming of

Maybe I could get a player somewhere in the neighborhood of that caliber to build around for the next You just you dumped it you there's, it's nonsensical. Like, and I would have, I would hope this high basketball IQ Jason Kidd. Like even Rick Carlisle would have said, no. And Rick Carlisle kind of hated him. Yeah. And they hated each other. But I think Rick Carlile realized boy this guy could

help me win lots of games though. I don't know. There's no way to know but I think Nico was on a mission that I'm not sure Kid could have stopped him or not. Like the more you read it just feels like it was a... Yeah but I also think because Kid is an asshole and probably did no favors as far as like endearing himself to Luca that he's gonna get grouped in here you know he walks off the floor both times they played Luca unfollows him on Instagram but I don't think it was his idea I think the way it sounds is that he he couldn't stop it I didn't try that hard but that it was that it was more Nico's idea. Yeah. I got a couple other little things on this.

I'll get to Luca in a second. I feel like there is a mid-20s Dan, or maybe Jake, working for the Mavs, and they're running their Twitter account. And they're also pissed and they can't believe what has happened. And they're like, oh, but I got to promote my players. So they are on purpose putting out tweets, like which is the one that really drew my eye this weekend? 31 for 3? Yeah, the whole look at how great Anthony Davis is.

They put it out while the Mavs are down 20 in their playoff game. While that is happening. So if you're a Mavs fan, Romo, if you're a Mavs, because I'm not, if you're a Mavs fan, and you're watching Twitter as well, and you're really dejected, You're feeling really bummed out. And then, but you're seeing, yeah, but he's got the 30.

No? And you're like, I just feel like they're trolling us. I feel like they're not. I feel like the Mavs social media is now just doing bits. They're doing their job that they don't want to do either. Okay. And the last thing I have is the interview that you didn't watch. This is just a very short clip.

But I thought you weren't sad enough today. And so I want to just play you. Yes, this dropped right when we stopped, when we got done broadcasting on Friday. I wanted to jump back on the air. Blake was at a Halo tournament, though, so we couldn't do it cool play And so this is Malika Andrews with ESPN they had a sit-down with Luca You may or may not have seen it by now

But they they Luca has the broken phone like he couldn't believe it when he saw that he got traded. And once it was confirmed, he threw his phone and cracked it. And he continues to hold that phone as a reminder. He'll probably be holding it in the trophy or with the trophy. And yeah, these are the two things that whatever. Anyway, here's just one minute of that. On your way out of Dallas, some pretty pointed criticisms of you on the floor, off of the floor, even about your body.

I'm always paid for the plants, how you take it. Mostly it came from Dallas, you know, so I just didn't want to talk back. But I don't really read that much stuff, you know, I'm just trying to focus on my journey. General Manager Nico Harrison of the Dallas Mavericks, he had this closed door, no cameras meeting with reporters. The reporter said, you didn't believe that the team that went to the finals last year with Luka as a centerpiece could contend

and continue to contend for championships. And Nico Harrison said, I'll say this again, defense wins championships. What do you say to that? It's just sad in the way he's talking right now. I never say anything bad about him. And I just want to move on. The fans, my ex-teammates, I always keep it hard.

It's time for me to move on from that. Have you spoken to Niko Harrison since you left Dallas? No. Have you spoken to him on the night that you were traded? No. Was your intention to finish your career in Dallas? Of course. It's an easy question.

Then who told him? Duffy. Yeah, his agent. Yeah, pussy for not telling him. Yeah, you would think. But the whole, you know, just the thought that in his mind he was going to play here forever is what just hurts. Hurts my soul. Hurts. It's, uh, and it's illogical. I realize it. I can still watch him.

I'll probably see him more than I could, you know. You're going to see the Lakers all the time, but it's still, it's just like a news story is somewhat interesting. But if it's something that happened down the street, it's very interesting to you. You know, you're just, you want things to be happening within your orbit. And again, you're dreaming of hitting

the lottery of your sports team and so yeah it's not logical it's not logical for me to be so sad about a grown man who's going to make a 800 million in his career and you know he's fine he's gonna be fine we're all everybody's gonna be fine but I it still hurts me and when he said that it hurt me again like every week or so something new like hurts me yeah no I'm with you I don't think you have to defend the idea that it sucks or that it because just because he plays for a different team I mean he was very involved in the community it was cool to

watch him wear a cowboy hat and cool southern garb when he got out on Christmas Day in 23. I mean, yeah, it sucks. It sucks that he's not a part of the city. I'm very tired of thinking about it. It was cool that he'd hang out with Dude Perfect. We're willing to look past some of these warts in all of our heroes. I don't know what to say, man.

It sucks. It sucked Saturday night, even though they were losing. He comes out and scores 16 points in the first quarter, and I'm like, this is what I'm supposed to be watching. They play tomorrow night. They have game two, and we're all like fired up about how does Luka respond in a game two. Ants pointed at him.

That probably pissed him off. I'm supposed to be being a part of this. Yeah. He did that. Last year. I'm supposed to be enjoying this as. Yeah, he did that last year. I'm supposed to be enjoying this as a maps fan. You know, these games would be in Dallas. That's the part that I'm having trouble with is like what am I supposed to do for the next couple months? I'm not gonna live and die with the Lakers like this, the Stars. Very

cool, but that doesn't look to be cool and great right now either, so. Would you trade so the L Luca thing never happened. You know it happened, but no one else does. OK. The whole world doesn't know, but you know. And you've made this deal where we get another COVID into the world. OK, hold on, caveat.

A million people do die again, OK? But they're all Irish. Ha! How many do they even have? I don't know, I'm Irish. I couldn't even begin to tell you. I'm saying, it might be me. I might be one of them.

Oh, like. So you're taking that risk, it's just, you have to be of, not from Ireland. Oh, I'd be more comfortable if there were 500, or a million. You have to be of Irish descent. That I don't love. Cause that could, yeah. Well, I could, yeah, that's probably not good. But if you make the deal.

This is the deal you make and no one else knows. I never know it. Okay. And I might end up dying. But. But you'll see me happy with Luca. That might be the breaking point. It's what he would have wanted.

No, but if you told me right now, it is an island, that you could contain it to them and it's a million people who are there right now, because I don't know anybody in Ireland right now. Yeah, of course. It's not even a question. Like so, somehow there is this localized... Basically, if just you're safe. There was a localized thing that killed one million people... A plague. In Ireland.

In Ireland, you'd be like, okay. And I'm gonna be... Sorry. I want to be fair at the table here. Age sliders, zero to 100. Don't need it to be healthy male adults. Fired babies, women, pregnant, it doesn't matter. Not like war age, a million people.

And I'm not kidding. What if it was a million people? Because I honestly don't think they would be, I don't know what they're doing up there anyways. And it can't be like that important to where. Come on. I love Ireland. How about this, it's a million people,

but it's all hot chicks in the United States. That doesn't affect me at all. That I honestly feel like we could use a little stagflation or whatever. Tick-tock would be bankrupt tomorrow. I don't think that's a problem. I think the surviving influencers would be happy for the thinning of the herd, to be honest. Yeah, it sucks, dude.

It sucks. Like the stars could be done in a week and a half and we're just going to be staring at each other like, I know baseball's here, but I wasn't, I don't love you like that. No, we'll be watching. I did watch the Lakers this weekend listen I like watching Luca play but you think I want to be coming out of a weekend going boy I wish I would have got more from LeBron yeah no it's not right I hate it it feels weird did you watch the Mavs yeah oh yeah I wrote I stayed up and wrote Friday night I was here and there on it, but watching AD airball a three,

then limp his ass back to the bench, and then they go to Nico all side-eyed. So did he get injured on that play? He was already hurt. It looks like he pulled something shooting a three. No. That's what I want to believe. He'd been injured for like two possessions

and trying to stay out there. Because something if you want to talk about, like not today because we're going to have to listen to Nico actually talk in like 10 minutes and I hope everyone's prepared for that. The reason as Tim points out, both Tim's really, the well is poisoned. They can no longer make any proper business

or basketball decisions as rational actors because everything is fucked. Like so AD rushed back too early because he knows I gotta get out there like they're killing Nico over this. Derek Lively was rushing back like every decision they make now is to try to validate a mistake that they made which is just you know that's how things get worse. This is why people get divorced. Is they're like, probably not going to get better. Why don't we cut our losses? Yeah, I saw somebody.

Let's not get a dog or adopt a baby. I don't know if this is Twitter or whatever, or somebody talking. It was a thing where they're saying, if you really wanted Anthony Davis, what if you put together a package? And we've talked about this. What if they did trade Kyrie, but you also included Derrick Lively

in the package. And I was thinking, the Lakers absolutely do that. Yeah, I would not have done that if I were Dallas. And I would not have wanted to do that. That's too much for me, because you had this young guy. That's the point. Yeah. But it would have cleared up the position thing.

It would have cleared up the position thing. It would have cleared up position and well actually AD was complaining about not having a center in LA. I know. You realize that? I know and I hate it because it's he needs to play center. That's his biggest problem is he was fit for 12 years ago. Like he should have been a four back then but anyways maybe he'll be there today Anthony Davis? I don't I honestly have no idea what this is gonna look like. I think he's filming today Yeah, someone had to fill in for two of the jokers that are a little a little busy these days All right, let's take a pee break and then we'll play the, well hopefully the press conference will be happening after that. You're listening to The Dumb Zone.

Alright, Nico started apparently. AP, PJ, lively on the floor so that people could see the vision. Unfortunately that actually never came. So there was never a good time for us to do that. And Nico, Christian Clark with the athletic. In the weeks leading up to the trade, how much discussion internally was about just trading Luca for another player who, up to that point,

had missed a lot more time in his career effectively, like trading a guy for a player who I guess was more injury prone. How much did you guys discuss that or think about that? Yeah, I mean when you trade a guy Lucas caliber You're not taking it lightly. So we discussed everything. Dumont absolutely told him to get out there and say that today. Really feel the defense is no shitting on Luca today. And when he had an opportunity to get one of the best two way players in the league, we jumped at that opportunity.

We're here, Isaac from Lockdown Mavs. When- I'm sorry. No, no, no. When Luca comes back to town, the Lakers game's happening, and you're standing there and there's thousands of people chanting for you to be fired. That's an experience that none of us, no one people chanting for you to be fired. That's an experience that none of us you know no one's chanting for our you know for us to lose our jobs. Why why shouldn't you be fired? Oh Isaac all right. Well one I think I've done a really good job here and I don't think I can be judged by the injuries this year. Oh, okay. From totality, from beginning.

So when injuries happen to Nico, their luck, bad luck. When they happen to Luca, it's his fault. Thank you, Adam and Rick. The leadership that we have is really elite, and you'll see next year when our team comes back, we're gonna be competing for a championship. Oh, it'd be so great if they random tomorrow. Nico, you say repeatedly to your life repeatedly, you say repeatedly that defense wins

championships. Somebody did that this year right? Are you saying it was impossible to build a roster that included Luka Doncic that was strong enough defensively to win a championship? They finished top ten last year. No I think it's really doubling down on defense and you know like I said when we had the opportunity to get Anthony Davis, who is- You should trade Kyrie for Patrick Beverly. Let's bring up that he's five years older, somebody. Hi, Nico, Joey Mastretto with Clutch Points.

Going off that question, we've made it very clear defense wins championships, and that's a very respectable mentality, old basketball saying. Looking at Luka Doncic, he did get this team to the NBA finals last year. Looking at Luka Doncic, he did get this team to the NBA finals last year. When you look at Luka Doncic, do you consider him a championship level player? You know, that's kind of an unfair question. Luka's no longer on this team. But what I am excited about is I do believe we have a championship caliber team. And we'll show that next year.

No, it's a fair question because you traded away that guy. My God, this Dallas Morning News, piggybacking off that a little bit. We're piggybacking off everything. Dirk is no longer around the franchise. Obviously, Luka isn't a part of the franchise anymore. They're two figures that mean a lot to this organization and the fan base. Obviously, it's severed right now, just with everything that's happened. I guess how do you repair the relationship with the fan base going forward? Well one, I would like to keep following up on the Anthony Davis stuff.

It's important to say he's the single most important figure to the franchise, so that's extremely important. I believe winning will help repair the relationship with the fans and that's what we plan to do next year So he was I know you said winning. Okay, that's ridiculous here, but that will not repair it thought about what if it doesn't I'm an optimistic person and I move by faith not by fear Little force field Nico Joe tray hand from WFAA you said earlier you don't like to run from the media Nico Joe Treyhan from WFAA you said earlier you don't like to run from the media but Nico I am interested in your reasoning by having that roundtable discussion because my boss without any cameras or audio equipment and then less

than a week later having this meeting that we're in right now what's your thought process behind doing it that way if you say you don't want to run from the media yeah no it was a good question. It was a collective thought process. My boss. It was meant to be more of like a roundtable discussion. Clearly it didn't it didn't didn't have the goal that we intended on doing it. So that's why we're coming back here today. The goal was that I answered all the questions today. I could talk about the team as it currently is and then what we do going forward. But because it fell flat today that I'm basically answering the same questions I

answered last week because we didn't do a good enough job. The other part that we really wanted to show is the face of the leadership of the Mavericks going forward, which is Rick and I. And so those were the two goals. It's part of the reason you're doing this today because you felt the fan base needed more and there wasn't an adequate response to why you made the deal. Is that why we're sitting here today? No, it was well one we do this every year.

This is we do excellent interviews. It's no different than what we've done in previous years. But because we haven't adequately answered the questions, we figured we would open it up as well right now. Yes, he's been coached. Will Anthony Davis need surgery this summer? No, he won't. He finished the season fine.

He feels good. He looked great the other night. And he'll continue to build and get healthy. The part where he limped off the court? I don't believe he will either. And you said defense win championships. We saw the Nuggets two years ago. I mean, they finished 15th in defense the regular season.

It's kind of one of the 30 guys who runs an NBA team. What's just your analysis of how, I guess, that Nuggets team won the championship? You know, I don't want to dismiss your question, but I'm not concerned about the Nuggets. I feel like we have a championship caliber team when we're whole. And we're gonna hang our hat on defense. We're gonna be one of the best.

See, the thing is they're gonna have injury excuses next year too, cuz Kyrie won't start the year. And Anthony Davis will get hurt. And they're gonna be like, my gosh. You were kicking the idea of this trade-away round. And you had various scenarios planned in your head. Did the anger and outrage from the fan base, has that exceeded what you were kind of planning

for? Yeah, good question. Answer it, you fucking pussy. I did know that Luka was important to the fan base. I didn't quite know it to what level. But really the way we looked at it is, if you're putting a team on the floor that's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis, and Lively, we feel that's a championship

caliber team. And we would have been winning at a high level. And that would have quieted some of the outrage. So unfortunately, we weren't able to do that so it just continued to. Because he's an injury-prone guy who's always injured his whole career. One of them was that you were told to do it that Mr. Dumont said I didn't want to give the supermax contract which is obviously very expensive

to Luca. Were you told that you had to trade him? No not at all. Patrick reminds me of the leadership that I had at Nike. And a really good leader doesn't tell the people that work for them what to do. It's a collective, well thought out process to make a big move like that. And then also, unfortunately, I'm super stubborn.

So someone telling me to do something doesn't work too well for me. Huh. That's interesting. Speaking of Patrick, has this impacted your relationship with him at all since making the deal? Has this frayed your relationship working with him? Yeah, it actually strengthened it,

because we talk a lot more. You go off. That's funny. We're kind of linked together to this. And so it's made us have to have a lot more conversation. So I believe that we have a really good working relationship. He came out publicly and supported me. And so I don't take that lightly.

And so now I have to deliver on that. What about you and Jason Kidd? Nico, you guys have been close for so long. I'll take that lightly and so now I have to deliver on that. What about you and Jason Kidd? You guys have been close for speaking. Patrick, has this impacted your relationship with him at all since making the video? I'm trying to get the video. I was thinking it up.

Oh, I don't care. I don't care if we have video. It actually strengthened them. I might. Because we talk a lot more and we're kind of linked together to this. And so it's made us have to have a lot more and we're kind of linked together to this you know and so it's made us it's made us have to have a lot more conversation so I believe that we have a really good work this meeting is being recorded and supported me and so I don't take that lightly and so now I have to deliver on on that what about you

and Jason kid you guys have been close for such a long time. How involved was he in this deal at the time and how has this impacted your relationship with him as well? Yeah, Jason, you know, I've answered this a few times. You know, Jason, I brought him in on the 11th hour and the reason for that is because... Smart....constantly during trade deadline you're having tons of conversations. Most of the stuff never sees the light of day. And so Jason's obligation is to coach the team

that he has right there. The last thing I can do is get him distracted by what could be. Jason and I are connected. We have a great relationship. We've had one for 20 years. That's a horrible relationship if you say his job is just to coach the players I give him. Yeah. No. I'll let him the 11th hour know that I'm

trading away the franchise cornerstone without his input. Not in a positive way like you can really feel how they feel so yes I I feel them. How am I doing? I'm good you know I said this last week, God's got me covered. I have amazing family and amazing support to get through it. But no, I absolutely feel it. But I'm also, you know, my job is to make decisions that I feel in the best interest of this organization. And I got to stand by the decision and some of them were gonna be unpopular. And this was clearly one that's unpopular. You think?

Nico, you've said over and over about defense wins championships and you've been here several years with Luca for the trade. I'm wondering at what, and he was pretty much a known product, he was who he was. At what point did you decide that you wanted to try to move him for something different? Yeah, it was never, it wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back. When you live with someone for three years you get to know their strengths and weaknesses. It was more about a change in philosophy in terms of how can we get a

top defensive team that will help us win a championship. Again, this trade may never... With a smaller window. You know, I wanted to shrink the window. Like Anthony Davis might have two years left. Six months, eight months, nine months? No, no, not at all. No, Grand Asset Dallas Hoops Journal dot com. Over here. The organization that dealt with injuries, you know, long before the trade deadline as well, but it traded a healthy player in Quinton Grimes for an injured player in Kayla Martin.

And it had hard capped the team at the first apron with 14 players. Did maybe the organization have any takeaways from that going forward about managing the salary cap in season when injuries kind of mount and you need to sign a 15th player? Yeah, absolutely. It's actually a great question.

We looked at our managing of the salary cap is maximizing it to its full potential. So Caleb was one of the players that we were able to get that would actually just barely fit under the cap and the apron, excuse me. And so we took that And we knew what we were giving up we knew that we were only gonna be able to sign one ten day but the chances of Ten players out of 18 available players being hurt

We took that risk to get a player of Caleb who we liked forever And so so that's the thing, To your point, did we learn something? His evaluations are people I knew previously. There's scenarios where you can have more than 10 players. Yeah, I liked him previously. He knew PJ previously. That will be something that we keep in mind as we move forward.

You know, he dealt with Kyrie previously. Eddie Sefko, mass.com. Wedding. A couple things. But he's not looking at everybody he knows. He's just looking at people he knows. It was a horrific season for injuries. Like he knew-

What's your confidence level- Anthony Davis. That you know the players who sometimes tend to get injured more or take longer to heal your confidence level that this was an aberration? Well, one, before the trade, 90% of our injuries were contact injuries. So when you have contact injuries, by and large those are unavoidable. And so it didn't matter if you were young or old,

contact injuries are contact injuries. So we have a great staff. And so I'm extremely optimistic. What he's doing there is absolving himself while also blaming Luca for his injuries, which are quote, not contact, and can be also just conditioning and what thing or maybe things need to happen in your mind primarily to get this franchise back toward contending status and respectability.

Really, we just need to get healthy. I think the team that we're bringing back is a championship caliber team. And we fully expect to have Kyrie back with us next year when he gets healed from his injury. And we believe we'll compete for a championship. You mentioned Kyrie. What's the pathway to either a contract extension? I know he has a player option, obviously a decision to make.

But what's your confidence that something beyond that can get done this summer? Kyrie is a big part of what our future is. Of course he is. Boy, he has such leverage over them now. Yeah. Rashad Miller, Dallas Weekly. I know in your opening remarks you talked about this off season, your goals for this offseason.

But can you give us kind of what you're going to do for the next two or three seasons? Yeah, I mean our core actually is connected for the next two or three seasons. So I don't see much movement from our core. I really see how you shape around that. That means you can't. The gang said locked on maps. I really see how you shape around that. That mean you can't. Nick Engstad locked on Mavs. You said that Patrick Dumont initially

laughed at you when you brought him the Luca trade. What did you say to convince him to approve it? It wasn't really a laugh. It was more of a chuckle. That's the same thing. But really, it was just I set it out of the blue. And then as we started talking, I gave him reasoning behind it. And we're a very process oriented organization

and everything we do is without emotion and goes through the lens of process. And so once we had those substantive discussions, then he saw the vision. Hey, Christian Clark again, do you feel like, just to follow up on Mike's question, do you feel like Kyrie opting in is a possibility? It's too early to speculate what Kyrie's gonna do.

But what I do feel is going to happen, he's gonna be a Maverick next year. And then just, he's gonna be out a significant portion of next season. Do you feel like you guys have to do something to address just creation to get through that time? And how do you go about doing that? It's half the season. Well, one, I feel good.

You can't replace Kyrie through free agency. He's too good of a player. We have a really deep, versatile bench. And some of those guys will have to create, they'll have to create the void. It's gonna be by committee. We'll use free agency. They don't create the void, the void is already there. Niko Noah Weber from the Smoking Cuban.

One thing you said a few minutes ago is you said me and Coach Kidd are aligned, you know the player that he likes. But when it comes to a trade of this magnitude, obviously, it's the main player that led y'all to the finals last season. So I wanted to ask you, what did that conversation look like at the 11th hour when you told him that y'all would be trading Luka Donchich? And do you think it was fair to him to have y'all's entire team built around Luka, but then in the middle of the season,

him having to pivot to a completely different player? That's a good question. To try to make the title run again. Sure, I think there's some difficulties anytime when you do a trade that big during the middle of the season. I mean, we saw it when we traded for Kyrie a couple of years ago. Sometimes trades take a little longer

to really see how good of a trade it was. But I also know he's connected to you to Anthony Davis. He won a championship with them with the Lakers. I know his admiration for him as a defensive player. And so I wasn't worried. They won the bubble. Jesus. LeBron said that was the toughest championship, though.

It was really brief. I just told him the reasoning behind it and let him know. And he understood. And he got geared up to start whiteboarding to get ready to see how we would play with Anthony Davis. I Don't think it's about agreeing but he aligns with how I think in terms of defense wins championships, that's his that's how he feels So he also aligns with the philosophy of versatile style of play I've never hated anyone in sports. I swear to God dude, like I I'm trying to recording we're live I'm trying to be cool. I don't want to ruin

this for everyone. I would put Art Modell into the NFL Hall of Fame to get Lickaback. I don't even want him back anymore I just want this guy going. I hope he gets swept up by a velocity couplet. The thing is he should get fired because of the financial impact and not realize. Let's see what this was. You know I'm not going to bet against Luca or speak negatively towards him. He's not here anymore. Little late. But it's the belief that I have in the guys that are in this locker room. Yeah. Nico, Russell Scott, News Radio 1080. Wow. Russell Scott! You say you did not foresee the fan reaction with the trade and what would going public with the trade have done? I don't quite understand what would have happened

if you would have gone public. No No I said I did see the outrage just maybe not to the degree of with that it actually ended up being but I also think part of that is because we weren't able to put a team on the floor that was they could have won every game if we would have put the team that we intended to put on the floor I think that would have quieted some of the outrage. Brad Townsend Dallas morning. He's not wrong. It's kind of piggyback. The first two and a half quarters of the Rockets game was pretty fun. So during the Western Conference Finals run three years ago and then also during the Finals run you weren't really out in

front of cameras you know you're really letting the players and the coaches take the credit. But I wonder if this year has been a lesson to you in terms of, as you put it, being a public face of the franchise in terms of standing up during times of crisis. Because it feels like this franchise was in crisis mode these last couple of months? Yeah, it's, you know, we always, at the end of the year, we evaluate everything and what we could have done better. And clearly, we could have done a better job with that. And we take that and we own it.

And you'll see us be better going forward. Nico, back here, Sam Gannon, Fox 4. Luca recently did a sit-down with ESPN's Malika Andrews, and he was asked about a question that was posed to you last week about whether or not you believe that you could contend for championships with Luca at the centerpiece. You said defense wins championships.

Luca was quoted as saying, it's just sad the way he's talking right now. I never say anything bad about him, and I just want to move on. How do you react to that quote? I feel the same way he does. I've actually never spoken ill of Luca at all. And I'm ready to move on with this team that we have.

Oh, man. You having fun? There's been quite a bit of speculation that one of the reasons that you made the trade was that You guys just couldn't get along in terms of he saw things and his team saw things They're gonna do it this way and you wanted him to do it that way true or not No, I you know, I worked at Nike for 20 years and there's there's like superstars They have they have teams around them and you have to

cater to them and that's part of the job and they've earned it so I don't worry about getting along with people I can work with anybody. Then the other observation, but what you got in return what did you feel like prevented you and maybe that's the wrong word, from getting more in return when you see other in-game trades? Yeah, they never did talk out the- The one that stands to mind is Richard Kerr. What if you made this public? Yeah, he wouldn't answer.

What if you gave up to acquire him that you couldn't necessarily get more from Los Angeles than three assets? Yeah, I think the biggest thing is- We got Anthony Ditton, because we targeted him. If you don't value AD as an all an all NBA player we don't you know else doesn't like the trade the league this point he's top 75 there's nothing the Lakers else we get it's gonna make you like they were looking at a really down period yeah Dylan Reidicket in Dallas.

Hey. Are you worried that the Luka trade is going to hurt you guys in free agent negotiation moving forward? You know, it feels as though, and at least he's highlighted as much, that he feels as though maybe it really was done behind his back. Are you worried that moving forward, other players that come here might think, well, if I go there, what if they trade me without knowing? Is that a concern you guys have?

Good question, just to hear him say something stupid. Not at all. When I first got this job here, I was told that the Dallas Mavericks struggled to get free agents. And one of the things I said is, we're going to get free agents. And it's not just about me, but you have Hall of Famer and Jason Kidd. You have a bunch of amazing players that Kyrie Irvin like. Well, there was one players

wanted to play probably had in our favor so I don't worry about getting like clay to do with Kyrie coming here clay honest yeah for sure that had a huge deal we're showing Kyrie wasn't a free agent no but he also what do you think the Mavs are on his trade list no yeah but what are some of the worst case scenarios like if you can't acquire the assets to build a winning team? I think we have the assets already. It's just building around them. So I don't, I'm sorry, but I'm not capable of looking at the worst case scenario. It's everything about what we do is about how do we continue to get better. We're coming back already with what we've

Part of everything should be looking at. Bad case, good case. with what we've seen. Part of everything should be looking at. Bad case, good case. In fact, you should probably look at the worst case scenarios harder than you do. Sure. Like if it all works out, it's gonna be great. You're going to win a championship.

He is so glad that's over with. That was unsatisfying to me. No. I should have known that it would be. Yeah. Get your key card. Yeah. Oh, you got to be kidding me. They've already revoked his fog.

She's swamped. I would like to see more, I don't know. He's not answering his phone. More follow up on Anthony Davis. Shout out to Isaac, though. Extreme injury history. Why shouldn't you be fired? Joe McMahon there, huh? McMahon's probably covering playoff games not allowed in the building or

after yeah after today's he dropped an article today he did I have not even finished I had a mr. mom morning with community mechanical over here give me some some p.m. Some preventative maintenance. OK, all right. I like it. My HVAC company. But reading a lot of that just seemed to, I mean, it's just detailing how Nico made

this whole franchise his own. Like he came in here and methodically, slowly took control of everything. The Cuban sale of course happened, but the article starts with when they went to Dirk's Hall of Fame induction and they kind of flew on that the private jet with Casey Smith the trainer and, and Scott Tomlin, the PR guy. And Casey Smith was fired right when they got back. And Tomlin left pretty soon after that, I guess on his own accord. But he didn't like the way the wind was blowing in the building.

And Dirk was pretty much just cut out of things. Dirk was not, his input was not required from Nico Harrison. And I'm not saying Dirk is a, you know, basketball analyst or anything, but I think Dirk deserves, I mean demands quite quite a bit of respect and you at least, you know, I think he's a good sounding board. I think he's, you know, in fact like, like kind of doesn't seem like morally and everything. I mean he's the most upstanding. That's why Dirk is so Dirk. He's the guy that you want him in your corner. And if you're a, quote, relationship guy, I would want to establish a relationship with him

immediately, because I know that's a great way to at least have some kind of a relationship with Luca. Because of Luca, when we had Luca on our show, we had recently had Dirk on. And to soften Luca up, we mentioned that. Said we were just talking to Dirk three days ago, and blah, blah, blah. And he brightened up.

And not that he ever gave us a lot, but he gave us a lot more than he would have based on the fact that we were in Dirk's camp. Yeah, they were very close. To tell you the truth, it's real easy to be in Dirk's camp because he's a great guy and he's very nice to everybody. It would have been very easy for Nico to get on Dirk's side.

He wouldn't have to do things that Dirk said, but just, you know, it's a Godfather type situation. It's a Mike Reiner at the Ticket when I first started working there. When I first started working at the Ticket and I met with Bruce Gilbert in an interview, he had me go meet with Mike Reiner. He later would tell me that some of that was just performative, that Mike Reiner was not doing the hiring and firing and could not have, if Bruce wanted to bring me in, Bruce would have brought me in.

But it was like an honoring, he's the guy who, he's the guy around here. He's a, so I want to make him feel good that he's being brought in on this decision and I want to you know, I'm just just trying to play all angles and that's what Bruce Gilbert I always thought was a brilliant Just a people person like he could have been MF and me behind my back, but I always felt like a million dollars with that guy He was always a great motivator and he just knew how to you know he was a relationship guy Whereas that's what you would do you come into this franchise. You know what I'm gonna really get in Dirk's good side And it's easy cuz Dirk's great and then you got gotta do some things that are hard, but you got Dirk in your corner.

You know, you convince Dirk of something, you don't convince Patrick Dumont of it. I mean, you have to in the end, he's gotta sign checks, but... Let's think about Lone Star Beer earlier. Grab one, man. I might grab a Lone Star Beer, but... Grab you a Monday Lone Star. But I'm wearing my Lone Star Beer hat. You can get some merch like this at LoneStarBeer.com.

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jury and other stuff my up breaking news it was a pope dot Breaking Pope news now. Anyways the Pope died. Which is weird because like I swear I saw him meet with JD Vance like Saturday and then he checked out the next day. I think he met with him Sunday. Or was it Saturday? I was following it on Twitter because it was like a he won't meet with so like a lot of people are MFing the Pope. That's what I've heard. Like F him he sucks because he wouldn't meet with JD Vance and apparently it was because he was literally on his deathbed he was about to die and then apparently then Vance got his photo op that's all they wanted they just wanted a photo op. And yeah, then he did not live.

Yeah, because... This morning, right? Yes. Not 420. He didn't die on Easter. No. It's funny too, it was announced by a man, a priest named Kevin Farrell, who's apparently from Dallas, so then all the local. Farrell on the bench? Yes, Farrell on the bench, that's right.

But the guy was the bishop, Kevin Farrell was the bishop at the Diocese of Dallas in Texas for about a decade, so now we have to do our like, I just love the local angle. Like a guy who just lived in Dallas is the one who announced the death So your local local outlets have to find the local angle We care about things they're local

We care folks. It's always a tricky situation for the politician though, especially like I guess really they all play the religious card Be they right or left It's funny to me when they like disagree with the Pope. That's a tough spot to be in, because like on one hand, Catholicism has decided like this guy, he means a lot. Is important, pretty, his opinion pretty important. And then like the American politician will go meet with him and be like, you're cool and stuff, but also we think gay people suck and you don't seem as stoked on that. So we disagree with you.

Yeah. Well, we were on board when you were hating on them. Exactly. That's the thing is that it's like, look, we seek your religious counsel when it aligns with. Look, the Pope is woke. I guess so. He's helping poor people and stuff. The chat says that now we just need to arrange a meeting between JD Vance and Nico Harrison. No, no. Twitter joke of the week. Yeah, I mean my Twitter feeds version of it was just having meet with every octogenarian in Congress because he appears to JD have

the ability to knock off 80 year olds Did you guys see the news last week that Shannon sharp of? Club Shayshae that he is seeking a new podcast deal, which could be nine figures What does nine figures set 1 million or is that ten million? Or is it 100 million? 100 million, right? Okay. We got there. Don't look at me. Well, he is looking for that nine figure podcast deal. He is facing an eight figure lawsuit.

Oops. He was sued yesterday. 13-page civil complaint filed in Nevada. Assault, sexual assault, battery, and sexual battery. Would you guys like to take one guess at the attorney? Tony Busby. The buzzsaw has entered the chat. He's going against Shannon Sharp. Damn, he's a busy man.

Yeah. Now, this one's a tricky one, Dan. Real quick. This is a woman that was in a relationship for two years with Shannon Sharp. Is she the girl from the recording? No. But that is Joy Taylor?

That is addressed. So if you recall, and I know Dan does not, sometime in the last six months to a year, Shannon Sharp accidentally went live on Instagram, and he was fucking. And not like you and me. No. No.

You don't recognize the activities that he was engaged in. Really? And it was pretty much just audio. Like the phone was on the ground or something. But whatever they were doing... I haven't done before. No. That's like me saying I go play football on the weekends in the Gravevine Wreckley. Like, no. I do kinda remember this because then when he got called out on it, he was like, yeah, man I'm a dude bone. Sorry This was her this was not her. Oh in the complaint the woman says that when that happened

She began to pull away from sharp When she found out that he was nailing another chick on live and that her Pulling away was met with resistance by Sharp, who then began to harass her after she stopped answering her phone. Now, her attorney has a note in here, I believe Donald Trump's attorneys, once upon a time, would disagree with this, and in fact, Dan's maybe as well.

It says, a woman can say yes to consensual sex with a man 99 times, but when she says no even once, that no means no. Dan. Defended in Sharp, a man who is accustomed to getting what he wants, completely fails to understand this basic concept. He repeatedly threatened, so basically he says that then he caught up with her and forced himself on her. Yeah I don't know there could be some gray in there. We'll never know. No. I uh so you brought up his media empire. Can I play you a piece of audio that I don't remember exactly what it says, but I remember that I thought it had, there was a relation with us leaving the ticket in this audio.

Brian Curtis was talking about Shannon Sharpe's media empire, apparently back in December, and I cut this audio off and just never played it. Okay. Yeah, sure I'm a big club. Shays a fan. I watch his show every now and then let's see what they're saying Absolutely, and it's it's one of those things to her like he's he's on first take so he's also got his he's doing his own thing He owns his own thing, but then he's also got a foot in the other world Yeah, man. I mean actually and I'm sure we'll talk about ESPN later I'm actually kind of shocked too that you can just like you can have your own business base your own side business at ESPN Like ESPN has you and then you have your own side media business It's kind of interesting that all developed after we left ESPN. Right, right, right

I mean they've come a long way from what I'd have to get permission to go on random podcast here It's kind of interesting. That all developed after we left ESPN. Right, right, right. I mean, they've come a long way from when I'd have to get permission to go on random podcasts here. You know, you can have your own studio. You can build your own studio and have your own show and talk about things you talk about ESPN on your show. That's the brave new world there. But...

Okay. Yeah. OK, I can see that was part of our thing, was we're seeing the whole media world doing these things to where at least they could have a little side hustle or whatever. And that's what we were looking for. And to be honest, originally the thought was we could start a thing, maybe we'll put it beyond a paywall, maybe not, whatever, but we certainly wouldn't have sold advertising. They could have told us not to do that. But we were just trying to say, you know, we see this world out there, you guys aren't really doing anything with it.

You know, you're not podcasting, you're not doing anything like, well, what if we, you know, my thing was you can write, Bob can write, other people can do that. I don't write. I don't know how to write. But I could do like another thing, and maybe we'll just do it for fun on the side, and let us do it. Well, no, no, no, you can't do it in that form. Because, well, why?

Well, no, because we pay. Well, no, you pay us just to do the show. I think we should be able to do anything we want on the side. So that was kind of an argument about it. But we were seeing, hey, major media company, this is the way things are going. So we just want to try and get a little side thing. And then if we did the paywall thing, we could pay Blake more.

We could pay Ham more. We could pay, you know, and that was part of the negotiations. And it did seem to be, it did seem like the local guys were going to be on board with it, because they realized, yeah, we don't podcast. We don't compete against podcasts. When a new podcast drops, we don't have a staging meeting saying, hey, man, how are we

going to combat this? Never. Never until there is one podcast that I think they've talked about it. But until that, there's never a, hey, we think we consider podcasting a competition. And in the end, we were proven right in that we're not, podcast is not competition.

They were arguing that in a court of law. And they're doing fine. They're court of law and they're doing fine they're getting great ratings we're doing fine we can all live in this same world because we're not it's a silly but anyway that that stood out to me back when I heard that in December like man Shannon Chuck yeah that is odd that who ESPN didn't used to be able to do it but now you are allowed to do it and that's what we were trying to bring into whatever this century, that mindset. We were trying to change the way things were done. And I think had the whole station said, yeah, I think we should all be able to do this.

I think they might have done that. But they did not, you know, the other people, and I can't criticize them. But that's the way it went down. You know, it wasn't like, I got it, we want to do this podcast. Like, it was just, we wanted to be able to have a little side hustle. And like we mentioned earlier, they went on to win a Marconi and their ratings are better than ever. So yeah, that's what I say. Yeah, their ratings are good. It's not a competition. It is a, what do you call it, Jake? The attention.

We're in the attention business. It's just like if we say, I was watching White Lotus last night, and you're talking about it on the ticket. Oh, wait, but you weren't listening to the ticket? No. You can, we all do lots of different things, and you're hoping that the thing you're in right now will take somebody's attention. Dallas Rapper was shot over the weekend. This is a very interesting story.

Because it's on Fox News' website, Fox 4 News, two people, Lake June Road, were shot at 4 a.m. Early Sunday morning the reason that it makes the story is that it does include a Dallas rapper Beato rich ass Beato BEDO R I C H ASZ Sure enough now first. I thought the a SZ was possibly gonna be Asian like beta rich Asian I Don't know

But I do know that when I googled this So you just got the normal Fox 4 story about it police called shooting at a gas station Both victims taken to the hospital one of of them, Beto Richaz. He posted an Instagram video showing himself bloodied in the back of an ambulance. So he's in the back of the ambulance. Bloody Beto. Bloody Beto.

And on social media, he was very Beto. He was cool about it, calling it simply quote hood beef. Um, so he, he posted, uh, on, like I said, on Instagram about this and a local Facebook account called Smash Da Topic posted on this about what he said he said that he was set up by a woman Resulting in over 20 gunshots fired at him and a friend gunshot wounded the head and his friend with a bullet lodged in his back This marks the second time Bito rich ass has been shot in the head

Damn Beeto Rich-ass has been shot in the head. Damn. Yeah. He got set up by a female. You'd think that's like a lightning thing. Boy this video is live, like he's in the ambulance bloodied. He's just live on IG after the shooting. Dan look at this. He died. No did he? No. Oh no. That guy. He's just live on the grip. Boy that's a guy who's a gamer. Pull me up. Let's see what the audio sounds like. Alright we're going to roll you over real quick okay. Roll to your left side. I need to check your ass and shit. Check your ass. I just got shot in my head. Let me see. Yeah, I'm looking.

I'm just making sure there ain't nothing else. It's OK. Hey, I'll say the word. I can't breathe. All right, time to go. You good? Yeah, we're good. I'm saying, give me a ride, fool.

Hey, give me some alcohol. OK. Four on four. Give me some Dom. Here you go. I can't breathe, fool. He's just on live. Yep.

You need some alcohol or anything take hey you got a driver all right thank you see I put some open it look up in the Oh, make sure my partner do We go to the same place How are you they are bandaging this man's head I really can't breathe put some on my mouth, okay That's probably enough right yeah amazing yeah, it's just a little hood beef And then our final story here is So is IG Live the way to go? For that stuff. Well, like, because I've always thought if you want to just pop up, you can go pop up,

you can do a Twitter thing. Like, I've seen Montage. IG Live is more the way to go. If you're just trying to go live real quick, people do. So not your YouTube? Because we could stream YouTube on the phone real quick YouTube is That was just a post though, so I wonder if he was just recording He might have been but IG live is the way that a single person typically goes live

That's the way Shannon sharps thing was released. Mm-hmm. You may have seen this Dan on the Today show Via your wife. Oh by the way last week Mike Torey co is filling in on the Today Show. Mm-hmm. Apparently the regular guy was off for the week. Really funny? Well, I told my wife, I said, hey, because I see, you know, she was watching it Monday or something. I'm like, hey, if anything happens with this guy, tell me about it because we hate him.

He's a dork. She's like, oh my god. He thinks he's the Good I like that checks out she goes. He thinks he is the greatest Edition like he's real cocky and she hates him as well. So it's it's good to know and he didn't try to Well, I watched into her she was backing out for work he didn't Try to reach into the car. No the story from the Today show I've been made aware of a new term Bird nesting

What does that mean it means when you have kids and You have a house and you and your wife decide you don't want to be together anymore But you two share the house. So the kids never move. Okay, well we've heard, we've talked about this. I've heard of it from a friend of mine, but he was forced into that situation, which I think ended up being good, by the fact that they had just bought their house. So they had just bought their house and now they're getting, and then they're getting

divorced and they're like, okay, well this is not gonna be great either way so they took turns living there and now there's an actual term for this and like a accepted thing of like hey, I'll stay at my mom's house two weeks. Sometimes maybe you have to get a small, cheaper apartment, each of you, but in this case, like this guy that they interviewed to firefighters he's like I don't really

need a separate house yeah that's the thing the the financial problem might be now you need two other apartments and not just one right but if you're in a bad if you're in a position with your house I don't know the point is that the kids never leave and that sounds pretty great. It does. Now, you know who it doesn't sound great for? Let's go interview my dad. No, my real dad, your dad even. My dad might have liked the fact that he saw us

every other weekend. Yeah. And had the weeks in between to cultivate the new young hot wife that he ended up with. Right, yeah. I mean, even if he was okay with- But now he's got to go live with me for a week and then live in his little apartment for a week and now live with us for a week and deal with... Dads, I don't think now does this mean the alimony is less.

Sure. Yeah, I would imagine it would. It would change that entire setup. No. More of a 50-50 type thing. This is probably a gummy thought, but a buddy of mine sent something to the group chat full of dads the other day that was just like,

you know, it's a little odd. I forget how he said it, that right now, we're all doing way more than any dad, any of us ever had. Like if you just took the average 30 something dad in 2025, like it's not even comparable. Sure. Yet somehow it feels like all of our kids are this or that or hey you know this this never been worse and it's like okay I'm not saying you're wrong but I definitely know that I'm more involved yeah no maybe like so kids don't need dad I guess not is not what

we're we're cracking it up to be like oh that's so important yeah you just need the four days you definitely need the other apartment if you're gonna bird nest because you're not gonna take your new younger piece and to your house. Right. That's not going to happen. I wouldn't have met all those boyfriends of my mom. Yeah. You've just been tagging them on the other weeks.

My dad had a couple of okays. The worst was when they had a son that sucked. My brother and I would have to just immediately just body bag this kid and let him know. Could you imagine? I would have hated being the guy. Jake and Joe? That's what you're walking into? Yes.

That was tough. At that age. I would admit it was a hostile environment. Is not great. Okay, but I did have a thought we didn't talk about this last week But I I do have for future gummy thoughts or viewer mail. I Know that the people have stories like this. I want to hear your best girlfriends dad stories

Because somehow I thought girlfriends dad your girlfriends throughout your whole life your interactions with their dad Oh, because everyone always does like the oh you go to shotgun and Blake's gonna beat your ass or whatever But I started thinking about it because my wife recently watched the Dylan movie On a flight and I didn't watch it. She's like, I think you'd really like it She was telling me some of the story and I'm like, you know Randomly, I actually know a lot about Bob Dylan's life just because there was one girlfriend whose dad was obsessed. And by osmosis, you spend 12 nights or evenings at their house over the summer. And you're like, well, now I know about Arlo and Woody Guthrie and the entire,

it just, some of them are most of it. It's cool. You know, I remember one of them that I saw he was a big Yankees fan like he was an Italian guy from New York and He didn't know what to make of me, but he would always talk to me about the Yankees I'm like yeah sure whatever dude cheaters awesome the next year. I might be having to pretend to be into hunting We all have those stories. We to this guy's in the trains guess i'm not

here about all that for a minute anyways the pope is dead there's a new the sound is just so good dom's own subs so thursday nights we're doing a live stream. True? True. 7 PM?

Ish? Ish. 7 PM. We're going to try and do it. We've got some people coming over. We'll have some Lone Star. We'll have, let's see, we got a big TV. We've got the seating.

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It's not me. This is from Sarah. So apparently Charlie was married to a lady who ended up liking ladies. Okay, but then he's down to him a lady. Then Sarah swoops in, she's like hey He's not gay to me. It's okay. Yeah, I mean it is kind of that that woman that new woman does bear some like Responsibility there like what is this man?

Let's get him back to being a man Because the last woman he went with Right she'd rather have a population. Yeah Dear population, yeah. Dear Uncle Vagina Man. We got some give-ups today, don't we folks? It's my brother Travis Green's Bill Bates minus DeMarvion Overshone birthday. He got it. He got it. He is 40. You may remember Travis, he brought you the boys hats as well as a special gift from Colorado when we did a sit in back in December. Jake wouldn't remember us. He was too cool

for us, he sent KT to sub that day. Travis's leader is Blake's general sense of exasperation and disgust. Full display today. Please wish Travis happy birthday telling my love and madly from Jonathan. Hey Dan, long time P1 and DF from Austin. I would have made y'all's show in Austin but it was far away and I was lazy. Yesterday I turned 50 and if sharing my birthday with Hitler and Columbine wasn't enough now Jesus is jumping in to steal my spotlight. Clayton? Love you long time, Jason and Austin.

Easter's just like Thanksgiving light, huh? Let's drink. Yeah. But there's lots of bits, and you might have to go to church. Oh yeah, Thanksgiving's at no church. That's a bad point then. It just felt like everything we were doing yesterday was just Thanksgiving-like.

Turkey. All the other stuff just doesn't mix with a church-like holiday though, does it? The Bits. Like the eggs and the, I don't know. The bunny, yeah. You got turkey for Easter? Barbecue turkey, but yeah. Yeah, isn't it like ham? Is Easter ham day? I don't eat ham. eggs and the bunny yeah good turkey for Easter barbecue turkey ham is Easter

ham day I don't eat him but I ordered a should we eat rabbit I love rabbit if done right confit I don't even know what that is but I've had it before and finally for birthdays dear uncle flick it or lick it Get text out in here. That's a good one Yeah, today is my brother drew's lusaka polite birthday. Wow. His leaders are sorority's hair The guy who made dan's mushroom sandwich And the timmy doll from hawaiian falls Yeah more t TC less Akash from Derek.

Kind of been on of a year. PS Michael Longfellow from SNL. I may know who that is. Yeah, I like that guy. He's good. He was in edible, edible arrangements. Michael Longfellow from SNL looks like a young Jake. Do we see that?

I can see that, yeah. Oh, but I'm not allowed to say that anybody looks like me lest I hear about it for the next. Well, it's always like the hottest guy in Hollywood that you mention. I don't know that he's the hottest guy. He just looks like a ghoul, like a tall, dark-haired ghoul. Speaking of the hottest guy in Hollywood, that Schwarzenegger's kid...

I was just talking that out after watching White Lotus, like... I think you've said it. He's going to be in the rest of our lives. We will die, and he will be doing buddy cop films with Jack Quaid Do you know Jack Quaid? You're going to see he was in the boys son or something the other Quaid Dennis Dennis, okay? He resembled he has some of Dennis Quaid's Okay, I've seen this he's giving Dennis Quaid. Yeah when you watch him and he's very good

Oh, okay. I've seen this. He's giving Dennis quake. Yeah when you watch him and he's very good And I just these are two guys that you're gonna see a lot of in the coming years Yeah, just you're not gonna and then Schwarzenegger is gonna have an even hotter kid like It's gonna be amazing the kind of humans we're gonna have in like 50-70 years. Dude, you just gotta... it's right now it's all about Baron and Archangel. Our future overlords. That's right. Baron will give him the Presidential Medal of Freedom or whatever. Michael Longfellow looks like if Jake went to like St. Mark's. That's a good call, yeah. A little more like I know what Cotillion is or something. I want to get to today in history,

but I also want to remind everybody we've got that Lucy code out there. Dumb zone. Where's my Lucy? I got some on me right now. Lucy.co. They don't even need the M. Right.

They're going to save you so much time. You don't have to type in the M for dot com. A lot of people were getting hung up. So Lucy is the nicotine pouches tobacco free. If you don't like the dirtiness of the brownness of the tobacco. How about a nice sweet clean Lucy. They even got some like flavors. They do. They even got some, like, flavors. They do. They've got flavors, they've got the breakers.

I'm an Apple Ice guy. I got another one here right now. What do we go in here? Wintergreen? They got mint, mango, berry, citrus. They just call it Int and Ango, though. Because they take the M's away? Yeah, they're just here to... I don't know, they're probably gonna hate this spot, but it's lucy.co slash dumb zone.

I'm a big fan. Got the fours, the eights, the 12s. Good for a little midday slump. Maybe you're out at the golf course doing deals, Blake. Lucy.co slash dumb zone. Gets you 20% off, it's good stuff. You know, the big tobacco. That's what I think of when I think of those other pouches.

I've had them. They're disgusting. They really are. These are much, much better. Get 20% off and enjoy your Lucy.co. Did you have something to add? Here comes a fine frame. Lucy products are only for adults of legal age. And every order is age verified. Warning Blake, this product does contain nicotine

Nicotine is an addictive chemical back to you Speaking of saving time with the M. I Can't tell if I've been ball sacked or not, but apparently Dan Saying please and thank you to AI Cost and wastes millions of dollars. There's no way that's true. Just because it has to compute, oh, this dork just told me thank you.

Now I have to say you're welcome. And that's just a waste of time and resources. Explain how that costs millions of dollars. Because it's an extra computing prompt that they have to go through just by you saying thank you. That's unnecessary. But you're saying millions of people are doing that. It adds up.

And like, me, it was $0.50 a cost. Sure, or something. And two million people have done it, and that's OK. And also, the problem is, once you I don't believe that, by the way. If you ask Chad, they'll be like, no. Like, if you ask ChadGBT, like, is this a pain for you? Is it hard for you? Like, they'll be like, I like it. I actually like, no. If you ask ChadGBT, is this a pain for you? Is it hard for you?

They'll be like, I like it. I actually like doing it. Yeah, because they're not having to pay for it. Isn't that then learning human behavior, and that's what it's all about? That we're idiots? No, but it's just the- Saying thank you to a robot?

Yes, it's learning, oh, this is how humans act. They act polite. We shouldn't say thank you to each other, really. We're just here for information. But it makes another person feel good. Well, we're teaching the robot, hey, it's making us feel good to say thank you. I think it's awesome, by the way,

that we live in the world where you create this technology, and you're the Oracle of your base Sam Altman's basically God for creating open AI right so you create this thing you completely release it to the public you don't tell them how to use it at all and then afterward you're like can you guys please stop saying you're welcome dude it's costing me millions in computational power you fucking moron you made the technology you just gave it to the public, and then you're like, don't, what are we doing?

You think I know how to talk to a robot and how much it costs? I don't know. I'm just a guy who says thank you. I try to. That's my biggest fault. Yeah, mainly just because I don't wanna end up with mushrooms only on my sandwich.

Like that's the only reason. So today is Monday, April 21st. On this day in 1836, an army of Texans led by Sam Houston defeated the Mexicans at San Jacinto, assuring Texas independence. So this is not the Alamo one where... Is this the one where we caught them during their siesta? This is the one that did not do any work to erase the racial stereotypes that I was taught as a child. Hold on. Hold on.

You're telling me the real end of this story is that we killed all these Mexicans while they were taking a midday nap. You're positive my uncle didn't just write the end of this story? On this day in 1972, the Texas Rangers beat the Angels 7-6 for the first game at old Arlington Stadium ever. Yeah, man. You ever been there? You been there? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Never went. I thought you're a baseball fan. The temple opened in 94? Yeah. When were you born? 91. Thought you're a baseball fan.

On this day in 1980, it is when Rosie Ruiz. Oh, hell yeah. She should have used 844 Ride DFW. Was the first woman to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon, but exposed later as a fraud. But you always remember Rosie Ruiz's name. No one remembers Jacqueline Gereau. No. She actually won the race. So, thumbs up Rosie. Is she still kicking around? Yeah, I think so. She's alive? Oh no, 2019. Excuse me. I know we, I had watched an interview

that she did like late. She continued to claim that she ran the whole thing. Really? Yeah. On this day in 2013, the first ever 900 series in professional bowlers association history. Wow. OK. Three straight perfect games.

What? Joe Scarborough is the man who did this. He was a 50-year-old self-employed electrical contractor. Is bowling a sport? Yeah, it's a tough one. I don't think so. Do you think he profited significantly or at all? I'd say at all. But not... But significantly? Oh my god. Let's look up Joe Scarborough. He looks exactly like you think he does. I mean I don't know if flipping the computer around is the preferred method. But it looks like a bowler.

This is Joe Scarborough, folks. Yeah. The goatee. Yeah. Goatee, little jolly. Hey, do you still have that bowling shirt from Cleveland? Yeah. That's cool.

The one I found in the laundry room? Yeah. The basement? Yeah, of course. 2018. A death occurred ruled suicide by alcohol intoxication. I don't know how you can rule that. What do you mean? Oh, like how you can determine that it wasn't an accidental...

I just drink a ton and I always drink a ton and now I drink a little bit too much. Yeah, unless you leave a note. Is suicide always intentional? Ooh, that's a good point. I mean, you did, yes, you killed yourself. So do they ever say suicide by cocaine? It was an accident. Well yeah, that's what, like if you...

Accidental suicide, but you did it. If you, I mean if you fall off a ladder, that is suicide. Because I could see how you could accidentally have something shoved up your behind. I mean I fell down in the shower. And it was on and set to never turn off, continue at full power. Yeah, the matchbox car was... Accidents happen. There are small oversights.

We have a candle in the shower. It's in the bathroom. And I was on my way to the shower, and I tripped. Dude, that's such a funny scenario to imagine. Somebody sets up the most intricate please do not save me suicide possible possible like a Rube Goldberg machine when he do perfect on it exactly and then at the end people like he slipped anyway 2018 the death by suicide by alcohol it was 49 year old Vern

Troyer friend of a friend of celebrity wife swap. What did he have him swap with? Didn't he just uh, didn't he just- Heinz Ward. Heinz Ward. I don't know, it is very funny to imagine him having like a little thimble of wine and dying. He's like, oh I overdid it. Right.

That honestly does sound, I mean obviously his life was very tragic and sad. Through one lens, but through the other, it's like he kind of had the best version of that life. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Think of all the other guys like him. Thank you. And on this day in 2022, CNN. Please tell me this is, yeah, I'm going to find it. CNN shut down the CNN Plus streaming service less than a month after launch. Oh. What were you thinking?

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We'll come visit you. Oh, that's right. Yeah. We'll do a remote at your cell. It's all threes, remember. All right. Today's celebrity birthday is Jack Lider, 25. Ed Belfort, 60.

He's close to coming back, I think. Looking good. Yeah, maybe next time through. Tony Romo, 45. What? Why the sigh? Again, exasperated, this guy. I just loved him so much as a quarterback here,

and then it's just been downhill ever since. It kind of sucks now. Jesse Roscoe, 68. Who's that, the pitcher? Pitcher. Cadillac Williams, 43. Dude. Auburn? Oh, of course. With Bentley? Brutus Beefcake is 68. What? Says here, professional wrestler. I think that missed me. Brutus Beefcake. Rob Riggle is 55. Pow.

He's a Marine. In the face. What a weak pow. You know what? I would expect nothing else today. Just an exasperated pow. You're not even into that. Fucking pow.

Pow. In the face. Kobe Hashi. Kobe Hashi. Nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan. You ever thought what Blake is like when it comes to making love time? Uh.

Like she's all horny and stuff. He's like, oh, yeah. Right. Listen, I have a lot of people have. I have a lot of questions about just him. Again, my wife asked me, like, what's going on with Blake? You guys still friends? I'll put it in you. And sadly look out the window and say I don't know all right You turn you over you put it in

Like he's just laying there Too long I could tell you what he doesn't have to do at home what he did when he got here today and said Put five more minutes on the clock Because he's already come. She's doing a world according to Garp thing with him. Don't get it. I do. Thanks, bro.

She has to impregnate herself, basically. Patty Lupone is 76. That's Corky's mom, and life goes on. OK. Yeah, what do we got? Again, key grip. do we have the... Do you think we should, no, she was a main, she's very famous, Patty Lupone.

Craft Services. Look at Patty Lupone, she's very famous. Season one of Life Goes On. Tony Danza is 74. You know, there was a time when I kinda thought that he was basically Harrison Ford. Like when I was a kid and I watched, you know, who's the boss is on. He was in a couple of movies.

I was like, OK, this is just the top American celebrity. Yeah. Andy McDowell is 67. Robert Smith, 66, boy, rocker. I like some cure songs, but you got to be careful. You'd never want to go full cure and our Jake birthday of the day Also retired way too young 77 years old today Gary Condit Wow So how could one Chandra be so levy? Is he one of the guys that was happy about 9-11? Very. Very. I think that the cover story, because if you remember, 9-11 was a Tuesday.

And one of the big stories that Monday was Gary Condit, congressperson from California, I want to say. He had an intern that was missing. And all signs were pointing to Condit, but much like the second half of the Jim Brown interview on Bad Radio, that story never really saw the light of day again. Weren't we going to play that at some point? The second half of the Jim Brown interview? Yeah.

Yeah, if I could ever find it, I'll play it. Which might require me looking for it again as well. Born on the day not dead, Ken Kamenity. Roids. Mm-hmm. And Queen Elizabeth. Did he die from roids? Like was it, cause he he that means 41 right was it

something related to that also Tavares Jackson he was a Ranger for one year right yeah 2001 okay dead on the stay still dead Tavares Jackson on the... death team? Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo a playoff game. Damn he died in a car wreck doing 70 and a 30. That's a Blake-ass death right there. So the death team you are the age and ability you were when you died. Yeah. Okay. It's a practice squad. Which is why that Chief Slimebacker is the captain of our defense. Javon Belcher? Yeah. He's gonna be up there The he killed himself right he did in front of Scott Peole. Mm-hmm Those we call suicides random Dead on the stay still dead. You have Michelle McNamara. She tracked the Golden State killer Wait married to what's her name? What's his name? It was her birthday last week

Prince died on this day and dead on this day in 1996. Jimmy the Greek. Maybe didn't communicate his ideas as clearly as he intended to. Or maybe he did. You know before closing remarks with not Eric over here, with not Eric over here. We thought his name was Eric. Yeah, not Eric. When he got here. Same last name. We should remind you and everybody, not Eric, that we're going to be out at the Byron Nelson. At the behest, actually, of Tito's. Handmade vodka.

That is correct. Can you confirm or deny this one Jake Kemp? I can confirm it for you. It would be a lot easier if I pulled up the specific email to confirm it. But you know what? It's all good. We're going to be out there at the Byron on May 1st. Oh no.

Second. Second. Excuse me. May 2nd. We'll be out there in the afternoon. The Sorroys will be out there. The Mob Game will be out there with us. So come check us out that day. Like I said,ito's will be there you can raise up a nice infusion

Tito's infusion that day will be near the 17th. So come check us out come say hey to the sororities come say hey to the mom game At the CJ cup at the Byron Nelson will be there May 1st tickets are 75 bucks kids under 15 get in for free with a ticket at adult so We'll be there May 1st tickets are 75 bucks kids under 15 get in for free with a ticketed adult. So Come see us at the Byron Nelson that day the CJ cup Byron Nelson So closing remarks, yeah, I was looking through old emails So, what's your name Morris, right? Yeah Randall Morris But your email address is like eMORRIS, and I will search like Morris. And then someone named Eric Morris also has emailed a couple times.

And then he walked in, and I thought his name was Eric. And I was upset because Eric Morris has emailed some really good emails in the past. That's who I thought we were meeting today. And I was excited. I was like, oh, Eric Morris. OK, yeah, I've been emailing him for a while. Excited to do that.

But then I did see that Randall Morris did email us in August of 2024 to, do you want me to read it, or do you want to tell the class? Do you remember? I don't know. No, I don't think so. I am one of the top 75 emailers of all time. This is never be.

You're forgetting that. Always in a trade. Well, it started out, Hail lord of the bacon drawer Yeah, okay that was me yeah, this is moosing related, okay So is when the moosing craze took was taking root sure And you felt like this is the one email he's ever sent me. Yeah, this is every day Nothing, Luke, stuff most people listen and never email and that's fine. That's me. I've I do not interact with

The media that I ingest I I just ingest it and that's it's a one-way Ticket here, but some people will email a lot whatever you said one time something struck you and It was about moosing And he says if you do it in the butt while moosing It's called boosting as in caboosing. Oh wow Yeah, and he said this is the this was your job. What's your job again data scientists? He's like this is when I will was it okay that I read that I guess because we can dump it No, that's we can I wrote it you did write it, but just of all the things we've ever done. Yeah

Oh, you know I had some heard you guys talking about the transitioning athletes And I think it's a little more complex than your right. Oh, you know you guys I know that you joke about the Israel thing. I actually could explain some no No, it's moosing to caboose that's And look at how it paid off. Yeah, no But also look how pleased with himself. He is. Yeah. Well, it wasn't that great. It took the sit-in to get it on the air Oh, he remembers you didn't read it. I'm not Eric, by the way.

So what's your bit? What do you got? This is your time now. Yeah. Well, thanks a lot for having me. It's wonderful up here and just can't say enough for the show and what you've meant over the years, you know, started with the ticket in say enough for the show and what you've meant over the years. You know, started with the ticket in 06 for the Miami Heat debacle there and so it seems like a good bookend. To end with the the Kyrie ACL was pretty much the end of my Mavs fandom. I'm a data scientist. I work for an agricultural company up in Denton. I also run a small juniors volleyball club.

So if you need an expert on the North Texas region junior girls volleyball circuit, I'm your man. So it's like a club league? Yep, yep. There's about 15,000 juniors in the North Texas region. It's one of the most competitive regions in the nation. Can I ask you something that you better say yes to? OK.

You have a daughter? Yes, I do. OK. Yes, I do. Started coaching a long time ago. Can I tell you my thought process? Sure. You're not going to ask him just in case he does?

Here's the thing. I assumed daughter. And then I thought, but what if he says I did and to honor her? Ooh. And then I let it go. And then I'm like, but I do want to what if he says I did and to honor her? And then I let the go and then I'm like, but I do want to know if he has a daughter Dan's going to ask. No, I do. And, uh, she's here and playing. And, uh, I actually coached a long time before my volleyball career started at Green Hill volleyball.

Oh cool. Home of Jared Sandler and Mayor Eric Johnson. I actually played volleyball with Jared's brother Darren. So I was coaching boys for a long time. It's a very fledgling industry y'all can imagine in North Texas and with the daughter cut over to the girls and so we run a very small club but with the daughter, cut over to the girls. And so we run a very small club, but have a lot of fun and still very competitive. That's awesome.

I was shocked at how big volleyball is. I'm really hoping. Once my kids got into sports and everything. I'm kind of surprised yours didn't play. It feels like volleyball and softball are similar, no? She was short, though. It's just the height thing. I don't know.

A lot of her friends ended up just quitting softball and then playing volleyball and a couple of her friends got Scullies. Yeah. That's a interesting path to college tuition if you can get your daughter to give it. Sounds like we know the guy to hit up. It's a massive industry, you know there's a complete takeover of the Dallas Convention Center right now. Four weekends of qualifiers. So it's just a major industry but super fun and competitive at all levels. Indoor. My fellow coaches who would be texting me from a volleyball tournament while I'm at a softball tournament would be laughing at me just like I'm out, it's a million degrees outside, they've been inside all day.

Or the soccer parents. The outside of the soccer game. Yeah, in January. Yeah, it's tough too. Windy. So, what does your work entail? Well, outside of volleyball, I'm a data scientist for an agricultural company. And so our company develops software for in-house use for R&D and production of seeds and agricultural products.

And somewhere buried inside there is a lot of math and geography, which is my piece of it. I asked him about, you know, we were talking about the wooly mammoths and the dire wolf from Colossus. Cause like, Randall has a very Dr. Malcolm from Jurassic park thing going on to me. Take that as a compliment. It's not just the glasses. Like he's smart, but my, my kick your ass type thing. Don't want to find out. Um,

but he said that his company is actually involved in like Chris, the technology. It came out of agriculture and it allows you to do a lot of testing of genetics without putting it in the field. You can imagine if you have to grow a thousand plants in a field, it takes a lot of space, time and money. If you can do that research in a lab a lot faster, it's really advancing agricultural technology.

Yeah, because I mean, there's a lot of different schools of thought on this, but the idea initially behind the gene editing was that you could solve the world's hunger problem eventually with fake food. Not fake food, but you know what I'm saying. Essentially, you wouldn't need the same level of soil, water, sun, cultivation. You could feed through that. OK, your mind went to food.

My mind, I was thinking, like had they genetically changed pot? Because they say now, they will say, oh, today's pot is so much stronger than it's better. Is it because we have identified seeds and? Not on the GMO level but yes just on the selective breeding. So just choosing the genetics that they breed together. But they haven't gone into the seed? Not that I'm aware of. I don't think they have to. I think it's pretty easy with the level of science they have now for them

to isolate like the psychoactive parts of the plant. And that's a hundred percent true by the way. I'm not trying to be an old man but weed was not supposed to be like this. So know what you're buying out there, folks. But no, I just, I don't know. I think it's super interesting that the same guy that's like, what if we edited the genes of this corn to feed tribes is like, what if you put it in her butt and call it caboosing? You brought a huge, this mason jar. This mason jar is at least a gallon, right? Yeah, one this mason jar go. We thought to you. Yeah, this mason jar is at least a gallon, right? Yeah, you walked in. It's a pretty big one with a tee. It's a tea iced tea spout

Oh, yeah, yeah, and this is sort of Dan's gift for the day I thought he would like it because he doesn't have to keep it You brought that goldfish to leave here? No, well yes or no, potentially yes. That's a nice gift. Yeah, well. Be rude. I think it's not rude if I give him the option.

I would appreciate, I thought he would appreciate the bailout, like I don't have to keep that because I'm taking your kids fish. But my kid named this fish Fishler. Just because of the destruction of any other fish that enters his tank. Okay. Kind of Dan at the ticket slowly picking off and so I thought with the holiday season that that he should come I didn't know if any sit in and brought a pet or an animal. No one has ever brought a live pet. One guy

brought his three kids. There you go. Yeah, I don't know. I'll keep a fish here. I got a couple other guests, and we can talk about setting you up an aquarium. My sister's a professional. Oh, wait.

So wait. Jake says, I'll keep the fish here. Here. Precisely here. What a jerk. How big? How old is this fish? Is it a year old?

Was it? He's a monster, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We've had him a couple of years and nobody stands a chance around him. And they live that long? Yep. They live a couple years.

Especially if they feed on the carcasses of their friends and neighbors. Yeah, I'm gonna allow you to take it back. Okay. Dan. I'm sorry Dan's being take it back. Okay, but I'm sorry Dan's being rude couple other gifts for the boys. I'll just kill it kind of kid themed here I wanted to give you something so that Brooks would never forget Let's see do perfect Dallas Mavericks dad. I love it. Yeah And then this one I had Nora in mind just knowing

you would never wear it for a few levels but I thought she would appreciate it. It is a t-shirt of some sort. Yeah. Show the camera. This is what space smells like. So we have a lot of things going on. The space, of course, is pretty obvious. Nora calling out her dad for farting in public as well. And most importantly, that is a lyric for a fish song. That's deep. That is very deep.

She would wear this, too. The best was explaining the shirt and the quality of this gift to my daughter. And she's like, oh, does Jake love space and fish? I was like, no, he hates those two things most of all. And her just realizing the difference of how we show affection for people by calling out the things that they hate the most rather than what they love.

Yeah, Friday I think I got a Frasier gift so this is all tracking perfectly. So how old is the daughter? She's 14. If someone's gonna get into hey I'm competitive volleyball how early would you know? Fourth, fifth grade is kind of a good entry time you know. You like to start early, obviously. Volleyball requires such a kind of specific skill set and a lot of people having that skill set that's seven, eight years old is kind of tough. Some people start early, get discouraged, but really nine, ten. Okay. Yep. Okay.

And have we run through closing remarks? You guys got any questions? I mean it's your remarks. Hey, is the world, how's the climate? Are we doing okay? We're doing great. We're doing just great. Everything's doing better?

Yep, yep. Okay. If genetically altering food is such a great thing, how come everybody says like it's, like Europe food is better, healthier and all that kind of stuff? Well with mass production you're you're probably sacrificing some quality right. In the mid 50s about 50% of the population provided for agriculture. Today it's about 2%. So we are serving a huge amount of people with very little man hours you know so this is all technology and you're not going

to be able to customize as much so if these smaller farms and properties in in Europe are able to do more organic practices you staying local, then perhaps that's improving their flavor. To be quite honest, the industry is not selecting for flavor as much as volume and consistency. More in the amount of yield and being able to have predictive returns every year. So perhaps some of the breeding selections are not favoring flavor as much. So what's your title? I'm a data science manager. So I have a team. I run an analytics team that does the mathematics inside of our software. And like what's your first job out of college type thing? It was pretty much this. I was a little late to the job career. Finished a

PhD at 39 and I've been there about 10 years. When you were 39 years old? Yep. What were you doing before that? I'm coaching volleyball, teaching mathematics, getting a PhD, getting a PhD. I drove a grease truck. I worked at a county adult mental care facility. I've got a random resume. Okay. It was that grease truck when I started listening to the ticket. Okay. I'm not the only one who doesn't have a clue what that is. Driving a grease truck? Yeah. Collecting grease like for biodiesel, like the recycled restaurant grease and stuff. So somebody does that. Yeah, you got a long tube with a vacuum.

Didn't Homer Simpson do that? Interesting. He had Mr. Plow. Did he have a grease truck, too? What am I thinking of? There was some cartoon or something that was they wanted to make money. Was it South Park?

They were siphoning all that they would go to the places and siphon the grease. I think it was the South Park. Okay, well this is really taking off here. I did have one gummy thought though. Okay, hit me. And it might border to Jake's category of things that we can do now that the Trump, but Indiana, like this is still happening, right? Like, just think about the lineage of the name of the state of Indiana and how we've arrived and stayed there. That's a good one.

And just doubling down on your known mistake, right? It's okay, Nico. You can just say we can go in a different direction. And I've got a couple of progressive friends from Indiana and I talked to them about this and they said it's, they've never heard of it. They've never thought of it. I've never thought of it. Like until you said something just now. And now the Trumps here, they don't have to do anything?

Like they just skip that a little bit. It's saying that. Oh, 100%. 100%. Shout out to the Hoosiers. Lard of the Dance, Season 10, Episode 1, Homer and Bart try to make money by selling used grease. The Simpsons did it.

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