The Dumb Zone FREE - Steve Noviello drops by for some Gay/Not Gay and Jerry Jones is sane compared to Nico Harrison | DZ 4-22-25 PREVIEW

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Hear the entire episode by subscribing to The Dumb Zone at DumbZone.com or Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneFox 4's, Steve Noviello, drops by to promote our appearance this week on Last Call. We do some Gay/Not Gay with Steve while eavesdropping on the Cowboys pre-draft press conference. Then we see how to diffuse a dog fight, something is off about Nico Harrison, and Shadeur Sanders to the Cowboys? ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Hey now! What you are about to hear is a free preview of one of this week's premium episodes of The Dumb Zone. If you would like to hear this program in full, along with the full archive... Ah, shit. If you would like to hear this program in full, with the archive of all of our past episodes, you can subscribe at DumbZone.com. Took a while to change that, because they had to mail a letter. Yeah. Like literally, people would have to mail a letter to get anything done.

Yeah, I know. They still do. We had a- I got a scathing one the other day. Did you? From some guy who had some things to say about me and my life and my marriage. Your lifestyle choices?

That's an interesting one, because see, Dan and I, I try to learn from Dan on everything because it does work out pretty well. In general, if somebody sends you hate mail or negativity, I think the move is just don't even acknowledge it. Oh yeah, no, absolutely not. We have a lot of peers, and I've fallen into this trap before,

where your move is to just quote tweet it or put it out there and be like, you know, a wide range of opinions and then you do a positive one. And inevitably, 95% of the feedback will be like, stop it, you're great, and that's why you're doing it. Correct. But there's also sometimes that hate mail is interesting.

Well, they have not like a good point, but like they bring something up that I had not thought about or it's just funny. It's just funny. Here's the, here's the part that I find funny. You were first of all, the, there's a couple, there was a woman the other day, um, who on social media had something unkind to say. And it's like, you voluntarily follow my content.

Like you could leave. Like I don't, why would you even follow? This particular guy, you're watching television, you stop what you're doing to look up my email address and pen your anger and frustration to me in the written form. Dear Gay. And sign your name in the hope that, what's the end game here? Like, what do you think is about to happen?

Like I'm gonna write you back and be like, you know what I'm straight. I I Straight. Yeah You are you're right. Yeah, that's I don't know. I was thinking about that the other day with We talk a lot of shit on here and sometimes I worry people are gonna be like mad at me for saying it But we were talking about the Rangers reporter from the morning news Evan Grant Cuz like he's a he's a reporter and he'll stick up for female reporters if there's a shitty thing that happens to a female reporter or a perceived one he kind of goes out of his way and There are people that do that. It's not my gig

But when I think about it, I'm like, why does he do that? It's not my gig. But when I think about it, I'm like, why does he do that? Okay, well it makes him feel better. But also, there's no way he thinks that through this series of tweets, some guy, the same type of guy who would email Steve Noviello is gonna be like, I hadn't considered it that way.

Women do seem to have a pretty tough time relative to my experience, and I don't know anything about it. Thank you, Evan Grant. I just don't think it's ever gonna happen. Is it just to show the masses to, you know, reinforce your brand with the masses? Yeah, and that's what people, I guess,

mean by virtue signal, and I'm sure we do plenty of that, but it just comes off to me as what's the goal here? Well, and on the flip side, what's the goal from the other person? Like for me, listen, if I'm to share that with the world, like that's kind of self-serving, right, because you're right, 99% of the people who do voluntarily follow will be like,

that guy's full of crap, you know, all of this, you know, you're like, okay, like so I got my ego stroked because I was fake vulnerable for two seconds about something that actually didn't cause me pain. I'm not even gonna lie to you. That's why I was weird about the rehab thing. And that's why I didn't go for a long time. Because I knew I'm gonna have to talk about this

if I'm gone for 14 shows. And then people are going to say nice things. And it's gonna be overwhelmingly positive. And it's gonna be, oh, so I just don't like that feeling. To the point where occasionally when I would get one that was like, you're just a fuck up, there's nothing wrong, you don't have a disease, you just have a self-control problem, I'd be like,

oh, thank you. A little refreshing. But here's the deal though. Needed that. But something like that and something like me. I don't mean to compare my thing, which is an actual problem. Listen, I get it, you think they're both diseases.

It's fine, Joey. With the proper electroshock I've heard that both of these situations can be fixed I mean there are camps I could go to for 28 days and get rid of this affliction I get what you're saying. Hey same same, but here's the deal at the end of the day When somebody writes you like that, you know what I think about I think to myself dude what I When somebody writes me like that, you know what I think about? I think to myself, dude, when I casually mentioned, you know, my personal life in a public way, it's not for you.

It's for some 11 year old, 12 year old, 13 year old kid that lives out in the country or in the county or in downtown or wherever, who feels like they are the only one who has this problem that despite their best efforts efforts won't go away, right? They're this kid who prays every night. God, please when I go to sleep Please wake me up and make me be like all the other little boys, right? Like that's who I'm talking to it has nothing to do with you Martin or whomever Decided to write and from you like when you're talking about things like recovery Listen, there's probably a lot of people who would tune in and be like, you know

What like he seems like a decent enough guy. Like, wow, I thought like I was a total piece of shit because I can't control my drinking and looks like I'm not the only one. So I think there's a little bit of identification there. It's true. You're grooming the 11 year olds to be gay. So what I'm here, I mean, here's the deal. Like if it was a choice, wouldn't you be? Seriously, at the end of the day. Would you be gay? Wouldn't you be? If you really had the choice, I mean.

Well, I don't know. To me, I've always. Just hanging out with dudes is fun. That part seems awesome. But as an ally, that has always been one of my thoughts, especially when it's now in the public debate about being trans, when people are like, that's fake. I'm like, damn, that's a really weird thing to choose.

To just wake up and be like, I'd like everything to be way more difficult. A lot of people that hate me for the things that I decide make me me, let's do it. Let's do it. I'm like, I don't know, it feels like that's not something someone would just choose. Seems like it might be coming from somewhere.

So Gay Not Gay is on tonight So Gay Not Gay is on tonight. Gay Not Gay is on tonight. When's the shirt off episode? Uh, we've gotten quite a bit of feedback. Are we not allowed to air that? No, no, no. I thought it might have gone to the focus group. The beauty of this show is it goes from my brain

to the taping to your living room, and hopefully it will continue to do so after this week is over. But I kind of posted a little like without context some pictures of you guys half naked on the set and my reaction to that. I think you also made it into the sizzle reel. Jake's doing some pushups without his shirt on.

So that's, I think that's Thursday. That is Thursday night show, because Friday is a repeat. Fantastic. Yeah, we'll thank you on Friday. Got a couple of gay not gays for you. No, let's do it. I got one with a photo Clayton, we could pull up in a moment.

But I have a, from Evan, I'm an instructor for my plumber's union. I teach mostly 20 something year olds. I have guys that share fruity vapes in class. I know they're not weed vapes, although I wish they were because I feel like that's less gay than sharing a fruity vape. That's from Evan. Is gay not gay? Sharing a vape with your 24 year old buddy. Is it the vape or is it the fruity vape? your 24 year old buddy. Is it the vape or is it the fruity vape?

It feels like since the guy made a distinction with weed and nicotine that he is taking a problem, an issue with the fruitiness. Like if he walked in there and it just smelled like oil or tobacco, because they make tobacco vapes. It just smells like a cigar. Sandalwood. But no.

What about passing around a joint or like you are, why don't you pass around a beer? Like if you don't care. I don't and I do. To put something in someone's mouth. Yeah, I think it's weird. I don't think it's gay. I think I'll let somebody use chapstick.

I'm just not a germ guy, so it takes a whole. Do you vape? Is that pink? Yeah, pink and a little lime green. This is Sour Watermelon Drop. Oh, it comes in the, it's not like a reusable refill? No, no, it charges, but you buy them. You buy them.

Oh, really? How long does it last? From guys who look like Skinny Pete on Breaking Bad. And you talk about weed legislation with them, and they're like, I don't know, bro, it seems not good. Really, it's not just in the gas station? Where do you get those? At the gas station, or there's just like a vape shop.

Yeah, vape shops, right? I feel like they're all over the place. I didn't realize that it was so unkind to the environment. I thought you like refilled them. Like a cure, no, it's, they have ones that you change out like the liquid, but this one you just, that lasts two or three weeks. Oh wow, really?

Yeah. How much are they? $20. For two or three weeks, that's not bad. Not bad. Colin says, I've been trying to come up with a way to stop my incessant solicitor problem at my house. My standard no soliciting sign didn't seem to change anything. So I came up with this sign and I was hoping you would ask Steve Noviello if he thinks this may be offensive. And the sign

is kind of like rainbow colored and it says, only solicit here if you're gay. And he puts that on his door. That is completely just the adult version of, I know you are, but what am I? So good. I think I was like, I was certainly in my late twenties because it was with my current wife that I didn't know the rainbow flag meant something. Um, we went

to like, we drove to, uh, what is the, the boardwalk? What is that? A New Jersey or somewhere? Maryland? Wildwood? We drove there from Ohio and we walked out and we looked around for like two minutes and she's like, this is disgusting, I want to leave. I go, okay, because I didn't care. We were just on a driving trip. And so we ended up driving, we're driving up the coast and a nice, we found this little hotel and it had a rainbow flag out front and we went in and yeah, the, uh, you know, we're kind of checking in and the guy at the desk, good looking dude. Looks like he worked out a little bit. Um, is like, are you guys cool with staying here?

Do you, and I'm like, what do you mean? What's, it was a gay hotel apparently. And we stayed in a gay hotel. It was like 25 years ago. It had a rainbow flag out front. Yeah. By the name of the hotel. And yeah, so this is like.

That's so weird, man. The late 90s. Yeah. I mean, I guess I lived through that, but I just don't... You don't what? I don't feel like... It's a gay-owned hotel, I guess. It's a gay-owned hotel, but it's friendly to the homosexual.

I guess I just... That, to me, sounds a lot like black people in the 60s. And I just don't... It doesn't square with me that I lived through a time when it was that painful or difficult to manage being gay. Because it feels like most of my life, I've just known a couple gay,

my parents had a couple gay friends or something, it was just normal. And then they were like they, but we also still said gay and did, I don't know. Yeah, they reached under and he's like, do you want the... and he handed me the gimp mask. And he's like, this is part of the... Yeah, lube is complimentary.

The package. And I was like, no, no, I don't think we need that. I got one. I was going to say, we brought our own. We have a his and hers set up. That's interesting. I don't think his sign is gay. The sign? I don't think it's gay's interesting. I don't think his sign is gay. The sign?

I don't think it's gay. I don't think it is either. Yeah. Really funny if somebody was like, all right, and they still wanted to solicit, but they felt they needed to do a little zest. Like a little feather boa. Yeah, I'm here from Community Mechanical

and they Z-snap. I liked his generalization better. Good looking guy, he works out. Yeah, actually I would say that's a much more consistent theme than the aspect. Z-snapping. I don't think this is gay, but I saw a guy at the gym wearing jeans. No, but I know that guy.

Oh no, there must be more than one. There used to be a guy, Grapevine Wreck, he was there every day, older guy, and just killing it on an elliptical, in jeans. I might know the guy you're talking about, but this was a younger guy. He was definitely, like, he was mid-20s. Barely had a mustache, kind of like he's been trying

to grow it since he could ever start growing a mustache, but you could just tell it never has come in, but he's working it jet black hair black tank top again right before he came to the gym I bought that vape from him I have right jeans yeah looks like he dates a lady much heavier than him you ever see that guy yeah that checks out yes. Yes, yes, yes. We have one at our gym, it's Carhartts though. The guy's in like a pair of Carhartts and like a tank top. Are they shorts?

No, full, no, like a full pant. That's crazy work. I'm like, what are we, what are we doing here? I love that though, Dan. Probably listens to corn. Yeah, I don't know. Pale. Primus. And I don't usually, yeah, I don't know. Pale. Primus.

And I don't usually, yeah, I don't usually notice people at the gym, because I do love the gym, because you could just live in your own little world and just stand there doing, you know, simulating squats or something, like just in the middle of the room, and nobody cares, they just walk by you, like, I'm just doing this thing.

Or you end up on Gay Not Gay. I got a question or I got a topic for last call. Perfect. I think. So Jake the other day was telling me about this you want to tell the story about your couch that you bought? Yeah. Yeah so we did a little remodel we have an addition. So we have a garage with what is supposed to be an office above it for me. And it's kind of a funky setup where it's the garage and then the edge of the garage,

there's like a staircase up and that turns into the apartment above the garage. My wife purchased a couch. I was like, look, I don't care. Just get the cheapest stuff you can find because it's for me, it's for outside. No one will see it. She got a couch. I was like, look, I don't care, just get the cheapest stuff you can find, because it's for me, it's for outside, no one will see it. She got a couch, I think it was a thousand bucks,

which I still think is expensive. She was like, this is the cheapest one we could get of the size that she liked. It won't fit. Not in the room, but it won't fit around that turn at the top of the staircase. I would have mentioned that beforehand, room, but it won't make it around that turn at the top of the staircase. Um, I would have mentioned that beforehand, but I wasn't involved.

So not much I could say about it, but yeah, they, they will not, it won't fit and they will not take the couch back. Um, they were like, no, that's it. It's final. That's it. It's final. So yeah, so I, uh, then Jake's like, well, so we're going to sell it. It's on Facebook or something. Did you sell it yet? No. OK, well, anyway.

It's only been a couple of days. How big is it? My wife has complained about our couch forever. And I thought, OK, well, maybe she'd like this couch. Yeah. And so I said, hey, send me the, a picture of the couch. And you sent me, like, the me the, a picture of the couch. And you sent me like the link, texted it to me.

Okay. By the way, she doesn't like it. She's real apologetic. I'm like, he doesn't, it doesn't, don't be apologetic. If you don't want it. He didn't buy it for you. He doesn't care. He, I just, I told him he's not trying to sell it to me.

Like he didn't even want to tell me. All right, hold on though. Let me go talk to my manager. Maybe we can work out a little finance. She's like, and then she kept bringing it up all night. Like I just don't. It's not the blue I want. Color and I'm like, she's, I think she's worried that it's a sofa bed and those things are usually a million pounds. I don't care about any of this. Right, so anyway. Stop talking. This is not my

my topic though. My topic is since you sent me that on my Gmail every day, open up a little Gmail and it will, you know, it'll have like promotions or something like there's another primary. Yeah. It will send me an advertisement for a sofa couch. Yep. You texted me. Yeah. A link to a sofa couch. And a sofa, what do you call it? The couch bed. Right. What do you call that? A sleeper. Sofa sleeper. That's what it says, a sofa couch. Why are any of you talking? It's a sofa sleeper.

We let him work this out. I would never have gotten it.