The Dumb Zone FREE - The Dumb Zone 2-26-24

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Johnny Manziel explained why his time in the NFL came to a close while on the Shannon Sharpe podcast, our king, Shane Gillis, hosted SNL, and our Dragon Den guest compares and contrasts watch...ing the show to 69.(00:00) - Open (39:51) - Johnny Manziel (01:21:08) - Viewer Mail (01:25:57) - Shane Gillis on SNL (01:51:13) - News (02:05:29) - Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Dan McDowell, longtime professional broadcaster. Why subscribe to our Patreon podcast? Well, perhaps you support our struggle to get out from under the oppressive thumb of the man. Or, objectively, if you sign up at patreon.com slash the dumb zone, you'll get the two episodes per week that are available on all podcast platforms, like this one, plus an additional two episodes each week that are exclusive to Patreon. So subscribing on Patreon gets you four episodes per week. Oh my, what a bargain. Now, on to today's program.
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Starting point is 00:01:11 I mean, could it, might it, just go away? I mean, it might get lost. I hope it doesn't. But what if your hand goes a little wobbly and the draft takes it away and it gets flushed on a toilet by mistake? I'm kidding, of course. No, sure, you're speculating in a comic mode. Yeah, in a, all right. I never listen. I'm going to listen. I want to listen to the drums.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Would you say perhaps, Jake, by the end of this program, that vein will have been drained? Your humorous vein? Are you ready to spray it out all over? I am ready to spray the humorous vein. Yeah, that's right. All over the listening public, which
Starting point is 00:02:08 it's a free episode today, so you could be spraying this all over Apple and Spotify. What else around, Blake? Hi, I'm Dan. This is Jake. This is Blake.
Starting point is 00:02:25 We host a Dallas-based, sports humor-based variety show. Is it humor? I have some big news. Sports humor. And I'm going to attempt to update you guys throughout the show. I don't really have a clue where my wife is right now. She left the house this morning looking. Buy cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:02:54 She never came back. Brother, I wish. Yeah. As long as she takes those two hellions with her. Yeah. I don't really know where she went, but she did look, like, nice. So, like, obviously, like, she had, like, something, like, real work going on. And she says in this text, Cam Newton is here.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Oh. Fresh off kicking five guys' ass this weekend. Yeah, I saw that. I did see that going on. So that's what I'm saying. I don't believe that was here. Tell her, pick. You've got to see the hat.
Starting point is 00:03:37 He's got to have a hat. Get him on the phone. What are you saying right now? Hand him the phone. Yeah. Joining us now is Cam Newton. I have no idea why Cam Newton would be in... So you don't know where she is?
Starting point is 00:03:50 I think she's at, like, the Gaylord. Okay. Which is an unfortunate name to be handed. Yes. Yeah. Unless a friend of your dad's Brother was named that or something He got sick and passed away Yeah anyway
Starting point is 00:04:09 So yeah it's a free epi So we really have to bring it today Because we have to inspire We have to say wow If this If we're giving this If they can do this on a free episode Imagine what the paid one the paid one would be.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Mostly kind of leftovers. And watch this. We have guys sitting in the den. I'll introduce them right after I pause. Hey! Let's go! It's a vape opportunity for me Can we keep that in there?
Starting point is 00:04:49 I think we do And unpause So you guys want to keep that Me yelling at the dog in there Oh yeah It's funny Okay Well
Starting point is 00:05:01 Okay Then I want it in there Yes Blake says it's funny. Comedy. I mean, this is the guy that's the hardest nut to crack, as they say. Anyway, sitting in Den with us, we have a 690 guest, which means he was kind enough to donate 690 to the cause of paying off lawyers and helping Blake make more than he ever dreamed he could make in this profession. Mark Miller is the guy who is
Starting point is 00:05:32 supporting us today. He's a patron. Some people don't like to be called a DF, so I'm not going to do that. He was the very first 690 purchase. There you go. Really? Very first one. The first one after scene sent a check. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Correct. And laid the groundwork for what was to come. So I did hear you speaking to Jake, not when we were recording live to tape, mentioning the cat. Yeah. I feel like that maybe could be an enticement. Like if you're going to do a 690 sit-in.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Cat's here. The cat will be there. I mean, it's no problem for me. And then we give him, like, shave off a little for his cut, you know, an appearance fee. Like, lemu-emu. Yeah, like $20 for whatever. I don't think it should be too much. Yeah, for those, it's a three-figure cat. Dude, I would love to have him with me all the time. I do think, I don't know if you guys have experienced this,
Starting point is 00:06:31 with a dog it's a little bit different. When a cat gets out in your car, it's like, I've got to pull over. Interesting. The cat makes me super nervous to be driving. Like it's going to claw your head or something Well I don't know Jump up on the dash Exactly like the dog is just like alright I just chill Stick my head out this window
Starting point is 00:06:54 But like when I brought the cat over here the other day And I had him in the container I looked down and I just see like head Pop out of cat container And it squirmed out Yeah and I'm like all right well we have to pull over at this uh at this park right now uh i'd let him roam around that's a good cat but you might not be able to find him when you get yeah that night i don't know i didn't tell
Starting point is 00:07:17 you this blake but that night dan was like bring the cat every day real i texted him just like hey anytime i love that thing. Again, I thought by the end of the couple hours he was here that the dogs then just started to ignore it. They can't live together in peace. He's chill, man. Yeah. He's super, super chill. So soft.
Starting point is 00:07:39 The greatest kid. It better be. Yeah. You know, if it's going to cost that much. Dollar per chill um i do i i do still get like uh you know i told you guys about this probably like three or four weeks ago uh when he was a little bit younger but and it really really annoys my wife but i just can't stand when I can't find him. Like, it really, really bothers me. And I'm just like, all right, well, that's X amount of dollars that I no longer can locate.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yeah. And she's like, he's probably under the bed. And I'm like, but what if he's not? What about the air tag on the collar? Not a bad idea. That's a good, yeah, really good idea. Yeah, I mean, I already told you guys about how confused I was about the collar. Not a bad idea. That's a good, yeah, really good idea. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:26 I already told you guys about how confused I was about the chip. Yeah, it's got a chip in it, but it's not like you can just fire up your time. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:33 I thought it was like a tile. Like an app, yeah. Yeah. It should be. It's not. And then eventually, they'll be in us.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Who knows? Maybe they already are. Dude, you know what? I actually watched a – I think this is like three or four years old, but I watched a 60-minute segment last night on like an MIT student who could just like Google with his – have you seen that? I saw it on Twitter. Yeah, it was like historic vids or one of those like stupid aggregation accounts.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And then I went and found the whole... I'm not going to click on it. I'm not going to click on it. I'm not going to... You have to. Okay, well, I have to. I mean, it looks really cool. And then I went and found the whole segment, and that's actually what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You can implant a chip. Yeah, he just thinks about it, and then it populates the terms and the words on the screen, and then Googles it, and then gives him the result, and then he replies back. And it's old. I think it was, like, 2018. Okay, because, you know, they've improved that stuff exponentially. Are you just kind of explaining technology? I don't know. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Just trying to help people in here. Mark has brought along three friends or just people he met on the way. Brandon, Russ, and Russ. We will... I think one of them is going to go by Russell. Because of the confusion? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Okay. White Russ. Bald Russ. Would you call yourself bald probably okay yeah that means he doesn't like to no and you know first i've heard of it i'm i'm there you guys ever hear the new heart show with uh so and so and his brother daryl and his other brother Daryl. It's hilarious stuff. That's what I thought of when I met Brandon, Russ, and Russ. And, yeah, no one else has ever heard of that, so let's move on to what we like to call,
Starting point is 00:10:36 I like to call the weekend check as we see what everybody did this weekend. I know Blake said he was going to, like, what? There was a lot of pictures of Blake this weekend. Wichita Falls. Pictures of Blake. Yeah, now I think I'm more recognizable than you are. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:10:57 No surprise there. No, it was actually cool. You're an up and comer. Maybe it's the video. Okay. Can we pause for a second? What's that? You want me to pause again?
Starting point is 00:11:10 This feels like... Oh, the music. You're trying to save a 12-year-old. You don't like this music bed? Yeah, no, I don't like it at all. You know what I mean. You know what I would like for... And I'm not being a jerk.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Okay, okay. But I would like if you guys would research some music beds. Because I'm part of my game. But you know what I mean, though, don't you? With the music bed? Yeah. That felt like youth church. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Wait, let's do that again. Or a commercial for a dentist office. Doesn't he seem like a youth church guy, though? Oh, no doubt. That's why I knew he would know. Gather around. You could sense there was some comfortability whenever the music came on. When's the last time he whacked off?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Anywho. All right. Yeah, it was cool cool I'll just hum Couple people coming up and saying they enjoy what we do And I don't know if we ever thought That we would have that in this So it was really cool But yeah I went up to Wichita Falls for
Starting point is 00:12:19 Argyle Lady Eagles basketball They made the region tournament Which is held in Wichita Falls So I scooted out of here at 4 o'clock, got to Wichita Falls by 6, and called a game at 7 on Friday. Got their ass beat. And they won in double overtime Friday. Ooh, do we have an excited Blake call?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Don't you do the play-by-play? Yeah. Ashley? I don't know. You're going to have to find it yourself. What a jerk. That's the way most of the audio is that I don't know. You're going to have to find it yourself. What a jerk. That's the way most of the audio is that I asked Blake for.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And then, yeah, got beat the next day. But it was a cool tournament. It's hard when you have an emotional win like that. It's tough to get up for the next game, especially one day later. Especially when the team that you play the next day played two and a half hours before you did. It's really not fair. Oh, yeah. I would think they would be tired. But they would be more rested. Three hours more rest.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Oh, the day before. The day before, yeah. That is unfair. Got the hotel complimentary breakfast, which I know you're a big fan of. Intercontinental. Oh, did we take a trip to Belgium? Yeah, I had a Texas-shaped waffle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Excellent. With some peanut butter and syrup on it. I saw the best bumper sticker I've ever seen in Wichita Falls, which said, I eat milf in cookies. Heck yeah. Same, brother. Did you pull up real close and give him a little air bones? Heck yeah. Same, brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Did you pull up real close and give him a little air bones? Yeah, I tried to give him some air bones. No, he sped off. But yeah, it was cool. Yeah. And then played a little softball yesterday. Give him a little peace sign with the tongue in the middle. Hell yeah, bruv. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And then Sunday. Dominated on the... between the white lines. Yardo? No, it didn't go. No. You were hitting for contact. I'm really just trying to get on base for Adrian behind me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 He's got the big stick. But the Indians won too. We swept. They're the Indians. Did you know that? No, he wasn't here. It used to be Red Sox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yeah. Indians this year. He announced that a couple weeks ago. You were gone. Okay. It was cool. Played the Indian Fever song. You would have loved it.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Oh, it was so fun. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when you talk about driving to Wichita Falls, it reminds me. We were talking last week, and you never brought this to the show. It reminds me, we were talking last week, and you never brought this to the show. One day that you left, it's like two and a half hours later, I called him. He goes, yeah, I'm still not home.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. I think I left here. Let's tell the class. Oh, yeah. I left here. No, that's a different day. I left here about 4.30, expecting to pick my day. I left here about 4.30, expecting to pick my kid up from daycare about 5.30.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Instead, I roll in at 6.30. Because we had a Palestine rally on George Bush Highway. So that was cool. Got to pay a late fee to pick up my kid. So they're on the bush? They were just on the shoulder, but, I mean, they weren't, like, blocking the road, but still everyone stops and rubbernecks. Good news.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Peace now. Yes. Yeah. I think they solved it. Yeah. I'm just really glad they picked rush hour traffic to do that. Well, that's the best time to – Why would they do, like, create awareness? Although I didn't hear about it
Starting point is 00:15:47 except for through Blake. So I don't know, was this on the news? He tried to paper over the fact that he almost just swallowed his own tongue. Yeah, just a little hiccup. Yeah, I mean, you're only going to do it at that time. I just wish they wouldn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 That's all I can say. i don't know it i was very very upset because yes dan called me two hours after the show he'd already probably been to the gym got his dinner no telling what he did in that two hours as i'm just sitting in my car however i did get to listen to the whole johnny manziel thing nice so maybe that's a silver silver Silver lining. Did you say silver rope? Was I about to? I think you did. Sorry. Silver lining. Yeah, I mean, I don't, you know, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:16:34 When I got back from Mexico the other day, you walk out and there's like the international terminal. It's like, I can't believe I actually went to like a protest. You handed out pizza, right? Yeah. Or water. Haven't you done that? Yeah, about like a bunch of water and a bunch of pizza because it was like a bunch of lawyers there
Starting point is 00:16:54 like trying to get people let back into the country, I suppose. Yeah. When was this? Was it travel ban? This isn't like when you were 20. No, it was like 2018, 2017. We were definitely working together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 My wife and I went there. Pre-kids. Obviously. Wait. That was close. I'm trying to think. She's five? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Nora might have been born, but it was like when Trump was basically telling people, like, you can't come back here. And it was wild, dude. Super, super wild. There was police everywhere, and there was people crying, and I'm just like, do you want a pepperoni? Did they polish it all off? Yeah, there was a bunch of people there doing the same thing I was doing. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. You're just a good human. I the same thing I was doing. Oh, okay. Yeah. You're just a good human. I would never think of doing that. It was weird. Like, I'm not sure I would do it for my friends who were protesting. Right, much less a stranger. Just a bunch of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It was very weird. Because I consider the best way to create change is to vote. So I do that once every four years and I'm done. Right. Why do I need to do more? Totally right. You got anything from the weekend? I invited you to come to my wife's birthday party.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Didn't see you there. You know what? I was thinking about that this week or yesterday. You know, not super surprising, but... Nah, it was a very, very intense Saturday dealing with a new email address that we have. Sales at dumbzone.com. How about that? That is right.
Starting point is 00:18:43 We actually have a salesperson that is not us and was busy. So people have emailed us and reached out and whatnot, and it's been awesome since, what, July, August. And a lot of those have gone unanswered and ignored until this weekend. Until sales at Dumb Zone. Yeah, so I, you know, couldn't really say anything in the, you know, for six months. We couldn't really address it at all. Now, possibly this Monday and Thursday episode will actually be supported by commerce.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So that's kind of what I was doing. But I was also thinking, and let me just say, I think your wife is great. She says that he apparently owns a logistics company. What? Okay. Cam Newtonton does drive him over here i don't know i mean that's like her business say unbutton the top button and drive him on over here she might also just be thinking that all black people look the same well that's a concern. So, no, I was thinking about her and just like, you know, I thought. So we're doing a birthday party like this weekend. Like it was Saturday.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah. But I thought we also had a birthday dinner earlier in the week. That's why I couldn't get a hold of you one day. And then we had like, well, we're going to Mexico because it's my wife's birthday. Like how much, how long is this birthday celebration? To be honest, like I would say that the fact that we went to Mexico was really just like we just needed to leave, dude. Okay. I feel like it was laid out with a, hey, it's my birthday.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah. I mean, I probably sold it to you guys like that. Okay. I feel like it was laid out with a, hey, it's my birthday. Yeah. I mean, I probably sold it to you guys like that. Okay. But it really was just like, we just need to get out of here. Okay. We have not spoken a word to each other in six months. Well. I think a lot of people who have kids of my age are, yeah, this guy gets it. So it was more about we haven't done it.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Like that's the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when you have kids, you actually – You just don't. You literally have to kind of schedule it. Dude, I woke up this morning at like 3 o'clock, and I had a cat and a 5-year-old next to me. And I'm like, neither one of these were here whenever I laid down.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Right. And now they're both here. So you got an invite to this. That's cool. It was down the street. I knew there was no chance you were going to drive an hour and ten minutes. Force field. And our wives are somewhat friends.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Oh. My wife loves his wife too. Or at least friendly. She just loves yours more. Yeah. But it was literally like, and I knew you were out of town. No, you didn't. Yes, I did.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I saw it on Twitter. On Twitter. You were on Twitter. You were trending. Okay, but that's when you send the invite knowing that I can't go. You and Peter King. That way you can punch that ticket. Peter King.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Retirement. Yeah. Yeah, it was just like right down the street. So that was cool. And then it was time to watch Shane. Ah, yes, Shane. And then it was time to put another 35 on an unsuspecting team that thinks of the two-seed. Oh, you played yesterday? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Wait, what? Black football. Yeah, they were 6-1. They were like, alright, we're coming for the throne. And we were like, not quite. It's getting a little hot out there now. It's supposed to be like 95 today. Tomorrow, definitely. What do you guys make
Starting point is 00:22:44 of that? Texas, brother. Yeah. I fear the fire season is over. I don't think it'll ever... I can't have a fire unless it's below 50 degrees. I think it's actually supposed to be back to like 65 on Thursday. I don't know if that's not really fire weather.
Starting point is 00:23:04 No, it has to be below 50. Below 50? Yeah. Because at night, you know, when it's low 50s with a little bit of wind, it feels great. And I think like, ah, this would be good fire weather. If it's too cold, you don't want to sit outside. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about fire inside.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Fire inside is below 50 outside. But no, I'll do fire outside when it's 100 out. I don't prefer that, but I will. So this weekend, thanks for asking. How was your weekend, Dan? We knew that you were all just rounding around. Tell us about this whole email thing.
Starting point is 00:23:34 No, all I did, oh, look at this guy. Wow. I'm trying to take some stuff off your plate. Thank you. As you've been handling the 690 stuff somewhat well. The Paris Airbnb is booked.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Nice. Nice. I was talking to Justin from Chicago quite a bit. He's really his wife is really stoked on Paris and stuff
Starting point is 00:24:02 and they go a lot. Oh no. Yeah. So we talked. In fact, they Zoomed with all of us, me and my wife, and set it up so we could ask questions and blah, blah, blah. Now, we have 48 hours to – Got me to a Jewish wedding. They had a Jewish wedding?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. That's the only Jewish wedding you've ever been to? Yeah. I can't say I've been to a Jewish wedding. Yeah. That's the only Jewish wedding you've ever been to? Yeah. I can't say I've been to a Jewish wedding. It's pretty awesome. I've also never been to a gay wedding.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah, I didn't bring that up. Unless we count yours. I was just thinking the, just different kinds of weddings. I guess I've never...
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yeah, they like, they break the glass and stuff. Yeah, no, I've seen it on TV. It's really cool.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Looks sweet. She's awesome. He's awesome. It was a great time. Are they both Jewish? Well, I think whenever you marry in, you're like... He does have that long beard and wears that hat. No, he's not Hasidic.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Okay. I'm sorry. I should have said anything. Anyway, we have 48 hours to find something better because the wife thought this one was a little too pricey. I'm like, yeah, but it's really good. Look choice.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He was telling us there was one we were looking at on VRBO that had zero reviews. That's not good. It kind of looked too good to be true. And he said, I think you should stay away. But that was my wife's choice.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah, I would not do that. And so, yeah, we did not do that. But it's very, I don't know, man. You're excited? Excited, but it's a stressful situation trying I kind of wish my wife
Starting point is 00:25:51 would just do it and I wasn't involved but I also don't want to stay in some dump some shithole yeah I just I feel like she'll
Starting point is 00:26:01 opt for the price thing the Rich Phillips booking and then it'll end up being, you know, I was kind of telling her once they booked us at the ticket like in a terrible, terrible place in New Orleans. And just about all of us went and found our own hotel, like while there. And so now so much was being spent on hotels.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Had they just spent that on the first, you know, whatever. So I just don't want this. We're not going to go back, probably. This is the only time we're going to go, I'm guessing. Maybe I'll become stoked on France and we'll do it all the time, but I'm just thinking that I don't want it to be like we're locked in for a week now. If you pay for the Airbnb. And now what if our memory of the trip is just how terrible the living arrangements were.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm not looking for a mansion, but I'm also looking to be able to go to sleep. Our other daughter is going with us now. So that adds a whole level of expense and beating, to be honest. Because if it was just me and the wife, well, whatever. We could just get a hotel room and be fine. Right. But now we can't have a one-room thing with all of us going to sleep in that room. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I feel like we have to have a two-room. There has to be at least two beds. Yeah. And now that's a, you know. So the expense has gone up. But, you know, I should have kept it in my pants. I should not have had so many kids if I want to not complain about this stuff. But, you know, so it's all set.
Starting point is 00:27:33 All I had to do was just go to a laboratory. Yeah. Well, you had to pull it out of your pants and put something in the Petri dish. Yeah, I guess I did. And then hurriedly it breaks. Is that the fastest you've ever driven when you're driving from your house? Because you drive real slow, you say. But you had to get that there while it was still warm.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah, so there were two different ways. The first one, they did tell me I had 15 minutes. And it was pretty close. That was actually where... I don't know if Dr. Irwin worked there, but she was associated with that clinic. Yeah, I did. I was like Vin Diesel.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Why can't you just do it there? They didn't do that. Oh, because they did at my place. The second one, it was like the bank. You know? Like the, like you opened a door, put it in there, closed it, and you just like heard the, I don't know. His deposit.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, put the check in there or something. The second time I did it, you didn't want to just do it in the parking lot? No, I didn't want to beat off in the parking lot, Blake. You just would fix the whole time thing. No. Well, if your wife came with you, then you could... Yeah. They don't really allow that. You could keep it warm when she could just walk it in and kind of like spit it into the...
Starting point is 00:29:01 Oh, my God. Okay. Spit it into the... Oh, my God. Okay, I know I'm not supposed to stop you, but that was a lot more than I was expecting. I was expecting like a handy. We're going all out. We're going all out for you, dude. Yeah, for sure. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:29:19 No, but we beat the brains off of them yesterday. That's what you were mostly asking. What are your stats? I got a penalty. Again? Were you holding? Was it for your mouth? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That's not out of the question, am I right? No. It's not, no. But, yeah, a little holding call. Did you feel it was warranted? They could call it on every play. Okay. Isn't that what they say?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah. Okay. I want to promote what's coming up this week. It's a lot. Because, yeah, we do have a lot going on. Friday, so I think we're going to have our regular show schedule. We'll air Monday, Tuesday, and then Thursday, Friday. But actually, one of those days, we're going to be
Starting point is 00:30:07 time-shifting it. We're going to record our Lawyer Roundtable. Heck yeah. And I'm expecting at least two episodes out of that. Because we've talked about... We haven't talked... Like, we don't rely on talking about our former
Starting point is 00:30:23 employer very much at all. We'll make mentions, but people are still like, hey, I want to know a little more inside stuff than you guys have revealed. And so we will do so. And we thought one of our things that we should do is actually get all of our lawyers together. And let's just talk about that whole experience.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Like when they joined us, the whole courtroom experience, what they thought when they were getting, you know, certain missives from the other side. And I don't know. I think it could be fascinating stuff. Sure. And it might not, so that's why we're recording it live to tape this week, and then we'll see. No, we'll probably just...
Starting point is 00:31:10 I just anticipate it's going to go more than two hours, to tell you the truth. Yeah. So we're going to record that one of these days this week, save that for the vacation, speaking of the Airbnb in Paris, that's going to be the week of March 11th. So
Starting point is 00:31:27 that is coming soon. Are you going to make fun of him? For what? I mean, you guys are both, like, the reason we're off that week is that both you guys need off. You already had two days as well. Let's not
Starting point is 00:31:43 try this game. I think I started it, so I'm sorry. But we did kind of coordinate our vacations to where we're off at the same time, which is neat. For this one. For the show. Yeah. And then you just kind of slapped one in there,
Starting point is 00:32:00 I just noticed this week. Oh, it's going on in April. I feel like Blake has taken more vacation already. Me? He has planned something for April and June. June? I feel like you have
Starting point is 00:32:15 planned more weeks of vacation than you were ever offered at your former employer. This rules. I'm not the guy anymore. Am I wrong? Yes. I've always taken a ski trip in April, and I've always gone golf trip in June. And you've always just had a week off in March? I did last year because I did the Big 12 tournament last year too.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Which you also called for? Damn. Yes. Okay, and? He got you. And last year I did the national championship for TCU. And you get weeks off during Christmas. So how many weeks are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Do you want me to add up the days? No, I don't really care. I don't actually care. I don't actually care. And those three weeks are way less than 15. It is time to move on. I'll work every day of the week if you want me to. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's time for a dumb zone interstitial how does he own a logistics company um can i doesn't make any sense can i promote our discord for just a split second because you said the lawyer roundtable and uh we've had some people advise us to start a discord for a reason I'm still trying to figure out. But there actually is a Q&A page on the Discord, and if you will go to your Patreon, you can get to our Discord through there. And if you have any questions for the lawyers,
Starting point is 00:33:40 put it in there. And if it's good enough, maybe we'll read it, and we'll ask the lawyers about it. So as this is a free episode What if there's people That are not subscribed to Patreon.com Slash the dumb zone
Starting point is 00:33:52 Can they also get in there Because you said Go to your Patreon Hmm Is this where I'm supposed to say No you're actually supposed to sign up And go to And subscribe
Starting point is 00:34:02 Oh is that your plan No I didn't I thought when we talked this morning I didn't even know you wanted to bring up Discord because you said, I don't really know how it works. Yeah. Sounds like it'd be good. I've secretly got a Discord team on the side with Tyler and Nick who's been helping me out. Okay. And in there is a Q&A folder. And Tyler tells me through Patreon, you go to your other apps in there through your subscriptions and you can go to the Dumb Zone Discord. And so I've posted a few things
Starting point is 00:34:28 in there, and if you want to keep up with the show and comment and ask questions for the lawyers, go to our Discord. Jake, there's just too much stuff. Is that the sort of thing that, like, hypothetically, if I still worked at the ticket, I would be allowed to do? Depends on who you are.
Starting point is 00:34:44 What do you... What do you mean? Like, is it different? I'm just wondering, like, if I still worked at the ticket, could I do, like, a Twitch thing and then have a Discord and, like... Oh, only if you're in the mornings.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Oh. So, would this be also... Would we want... Dan, you are entering the I don't give a fuck era I'm not Do you see me upset about anything? No not at all Again I want the attitude to be yes and around here
Starting point is 00:35:15 Let's just do that Let me go yes and Would this be something Should we throw a little love to our reddit guys Our reddit page is pretty big and active. I call them people. What? Not guys.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Oh, okay. Humans. Yeah. Well, I identify all those people as men. Out of respect. Yeah. Well, we've already got five or six questions in here. This is great.
Starting point is 00:35:44 That doesn't seem like a lot. Okay. I posted it this morning. Like a Reddit thread as well, and then maybe they can go in there and whatever. So, yeah. So then once we do the Lawyer Roundtable, the Lawyer Roundtable will actually be recording it live to tape on Friday. Sure.
Starting point is 00:36:00 So have your questions in by then. Right, Blake? Yes. Can you, like, tweet out the link? I will. Yes, I'll questions in by then. Right, Blake? Yes. Can you tweet out the link? I will. Yes, I'll do that. Okay. But it would be cool if you subscribed and got it that way.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Me? Or are you just saying to anybody? Anybody. Should I subscribe? Yeah, it'd kind of help. How do you do that? Oh, something else I was doing. So, I'm trying to fix, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:27 We're trying to coordinate all the stuff we have. Yeah. And so I went and dusted off my Instagram account. Oh my God. Do you have an Instagram? Graham McDowell. No. No.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's now Bracket Dan. Okay. You were able to. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Some idiot, someone took Bracket Dan. Oh no. If it's you, wait, wait, wait. Some idiot. Someone took Bracket Dan. Oh, no. If it's you, you're not an idiot. Please contact me and let me have the number.
Starting point is 00:36:50 So it's Bracket Dan 69. Okay. It used to be Graham McDowell, and I'm trying to align all my things. So it's Bracket Dan at Hotmail, Bracket Dan whatever. Look at you. Yeah, you know, I'm just a business guy. I'm just trying to have synergy. Mine is still Kemp1310.
Starting point is 00:37:10 So I'm going to have to do a little something about that. Okay. I'm going to follow both of you guys right now. Never posted. I think I've thrown two pictures up there, but I kind of think, I don't know, they say that's a pretty big deal, this Instagram. I don't know, dude. I don't know, they say that's a pretty big deal, this Instagram. I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I don't know either. But, you know, it's like we were talking to somebody the other day about our marketing, which is non-existent. Pretty much. And they were asking us, well, where are most of your listeners? And we were thinking, well, maybe it's on Twitter because we do interact a lot. And I think that's just where we are. Like our list, I'll bet you a lot of people
Starting point is 00:37:47 are on this Facebook thing, but we just are never on there. You know? No, they're not. You don't feel like they are? No. Well, I mean, I think most of them live in India.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Facebook? Our Facebook numbers aren't very good. Our Instagram numbers are pretty good. But it doesn't mean people listening right now don't have Facebook. They just might not really interact on it. I don't know. Yeah. It just feels like Instagram is a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Facebook's a pretty big deal. We kind of ignore that stuff just because we don't really interact with it. But apparently, if you're going to have a business like this... I feel like I just have to not be on Instagram. It's just too much butts. Yeah, it's my guilty pleasure. It's too much butts. What does that mean, Blake? I just don't think I can
Starting point is 00:38:32 I think it's bad for me. I agree. Well, you say that about Twitter. It's very different. Yeah, Twitter's bad for negative news or whatever. Like I said, I watched a guy light himself on fire like four times this morning. But Instagram is just like.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Why four times? It was amazing. Oh, okay. Yeah. But I feel like Instagram is just like TNA. And I don't feel like I need that. That's why Blake's on board? Yeah, sometimes.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And the worst part is you know that they're serving you whatever you want to see. I hate that they know me so well. I know. So it's just like, okay, well, how do these butts just keep getting bigger? Yeah. And they just keep serving them to me,
Starting point is 00:39:21 and I'm like, all right, well, I should delete this app. Yeah. I go through that song and dance a lot. Yeah. Delete, reinstall, feel bad, delete. Reinstall. What is a more depressing situation than being like, I'm going to re-download the app? I just want to see.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I can handle it this time. All right. So I was... So beaten. I already played the interstitial like 10 minutes ago, but you want to slide right into Johnny Manziel talk? Yeah. Yeah, I can do that. So Johnny Manziel was on Club Shay Shay.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Is that really what Shannon Sharp decided on? Yeah, and this is... I don't think this is the first time, well, maybe it is the first time we've played audio from it, but you know, he had Cat Williams on there like a month ago, and that made like huge news. Yeah, that was big.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah. What's the deal with that? I think it was... He was ripping comedians or something? Yeah, like Cedric the Entertainer stole a bit from him. Steve Harvey stole a bit from him. Steve Harvey stole a bit from him. Okay, that's delicious. It's actually like a really
Starting point is 00:40:32 good podcast. They kind of just get drunk and he just lets people talk. That's a really good segue into this. It's a good idea for a show, yeah. Which is, you know, I was talking to somebody about podcasting this weekend and just that whole, it is interesting that, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:52 some podcasts, though, like that, you would say, or Marc Maron, aren't they solely based on who they have on? Like, you're never going to listen to Marc Maron if it's somebody you're not interested in. Or if it's just like Marc Maron. That's what I mean. It's all about the guest. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Okay. Anyway. For sure. Sorry. Back to you, Blake. Yeah, but you're trying to loosen the guest up, right? By doing that? With the drinking?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, for sure. And I think, like, they sort of forget that they're being interviewed. Yes. Yeah. For sure. So, like I said, that's a really good segue for this opening clip.
Starting point is 00:41:26 This is the first 15 seconds of the show. Shannon Sharp says something that I think you guys should start saying about this show. Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay. I am the proprietor
Starting point is 00:41:42 of Dragon Den Productions TBA yes proprietors okay dumb zone proprietors um I don't know I thought that was a cool intro um and then uh yeah Shannon Sharp is drinking wine um I'm playing this for Dan hello welcome to another episode of club Shay Shay I am your host Shannon Sharp I'm also the proprietor of club Shay Shay and the guy that's stopping by for conversation today, Johnny Manziel. What's up, baby? Bro, how you doing? Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Long time coming, man. Thank you, bro. I don't want to toast. I know you don't drink anymore. You don't drink anymore, right? Right now, I'm in the way. Don't want to toast the water, but nevertheless, I love you, baby. I appreciate the offer. Just like Steve-O, I kind of want my Manziel drunk and smoking cigarettes. Yeah, he's off it, huh?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah. I think he's just in a... He kind of said right now. Right now. Yeah. Okay. I like that. I mean, when I saw him last summer, I didn't actually meet him, but two of my friends did.
Starting point is 00:42:40 David Ruff and KJ Ellis. Got a picture. He was at the same bar as us, and he was definitely... us. He was definitely consuming. It was like 3 o'clock in the afternoon. He was smoking cigarettes. Is this a rehab thing? He's in trouble thing? No, I think it's probably just some people like that just go through stages
Starting point is 00:42:58 where they're just like, I'm off it for a little while. Yeah. I immediately thought of Steve-O. Dan doesn't want it yeah so y'all are going to have to remind me because the Manziel documentary came out
Starting point is 00:43:13 on his time at A&M over the summer and I don't remember what we covered from that so I'm just going to play one clip from A&M his time at A&M because this kind of made waves. Manziel said, and now consider this is pre-NIL, that he would have stayed at A&M for a sum of money. But Kevin Sumlin said no. I'm leaving to go to the draft, and I'll paint a picture for you. It's 2000,
Starting point is 00:43:39 the spring of 2014, December 2013, right in there about December, January, I'm getting ready to make this decision on if I'm going to the NFL draft or I'm going to stay. And I found this out five years later from my dad. But my dad went and had a meeting with Kevin Sutton and pretty much went to him man to man and was like, we'll take three million bucks and we'll stay for the next two years. And my dad says this is true as today as he did when he told me. He left. He did the same thing that he did when Cliff Kingsbury asked him to be the highest paid offensive coordinator the year before. And Cliff would have stayed with me another year and we would have ran it back and gone
Starting point is 00:44:19 for another one. But he comes to someone, he asked him for X amount, someone, he had this ego about him that what we built, we, was all him. And the crazy part to me is he only asked for $3 million. Did he ask
Starting point is 00:44:41 or did he just get offered that? His dad approached someone, hey, pay us $3 million, we'll stay for two years. I mean, how would that even have worked, though? I mean... Under the table somehow? Yeah. Shannon Sharp admits to getting stuff when he was recruited.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Manziel admitted to getting money. I mean, they made up the fact that Manziel came from money just to explain how he's courtside or how he has all these cars. Yeah, and I've heard a bunch of conflicting reports about that. I don't know that he was as wealthy as maybe... Sometimes he's been portrayed to be, but I don't think he was broke. No, he definitely wasn't broke, but his dad was selling cars when he was coming up. He got a better job down in Kerrville, I think.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah. But not that kind of money. Also, did he have two more years left? Yeah. Because he redshirted the fight year, right? Yeah, he was the first freshman to win. Yeah, the Heisman Trophy. The Heisman Trophy.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. Yeah. Then the next year he had the meltdown year. Yeah. Well, not meltdown, but. Yeah, they playedisman Trophy. Then the next year he had the meltdown year. Well, not meltdown, but... Yeah, they played Duke in the bowl game. But yeah, he had his junior and senior years. He was never going to stay
Starting point is 00:45:51 for two more years, though. Ever. I don't know. That's what he's saying. But it is kind of funny, though, that at the time we all thought, is it Cliff? Is it Kevin Sumlin? Is it Johnny? None of them have really turned out to be all that successful in the postscript of it, right?
Starting point is 00:46:15 I mean, I guess, obviously, Cliff has an NFL job now. I mean, it was Johnny. It was Johnny. The way— It was, you know, it was Johnny, and it was a moment in time. Yeah, it was the perfect storm. There was just nothing anybody could do about what he was doing. And the fact that they had just gone to the SEC,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I feel like that helped tremendously with the bright lights of it. Is that A&M story as big of a deal if they're beating Iowa State instead of Alabama? No. Because a part of his red shirt year, because he got into trouble, right? You said the fight year? Yeah. He got, yeah. He was like fourth on the depth chart that year he got arrested. And he said, fourth on the depth chart
Starting point is 00:46:58 he may or may not travel and we're going to Ames, Iowa. Yeah. Like he was so checked out. And so that's a part of it. Yeah, the move to the SEC. Yeah, if he had had that year and they knocked off Texas. Kansas State. Or whatever, you know, whatever they run through
Starting point is 00:47:12 the Big 12, it wouldn't have been... Yeah, when you knock off Alabama at Alabama. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, and you know,
Starting point is 00:47:22 a lot of that A&M stuff was covered in the documentary. It was so much fun. I know. I know. it was so much fun i know i know it was so much fun he he begins to detail his drug use uh while in the league and we get a pretty viral clip from this but it is amazing what he had to overcome uh from his behavior off the field that persona that i had on the football field of being able to have that confidence translated over into the party scene as well i'm the guy right just that i had on the football field of being able to have that confidence translated over into the party scene as well i'm the guy just like i am on the field in the club in the streets so it's all in front of you if you want it and you're hanging around the wrong
Starting point is 00:47:56 circles it ain't hard to find at all right so you know you get around people who you think you look up to or this or that, and then it just goes. And then it kind of goes and it snowballs and it keeps getting worse. And you go from cocaine to Oxycontin to Percocets to mushrooms. I mean, I look at the mushrooms as a different thing now. That's not a good thing to say. But, like, I do like that he's, like, accounting for the fact that mushrooms are now viewed as therapeutic you know what i'm saying like he's like all right yeah pain pills pain pills cocaine cocaine and he's like mushrooms mushrooms are not that bad actually yeah i just thought that was when i
Starting point is 00:48:38 heard that i i left let's rewind get some of these drugs again keeps getting worse and you go from cocaine to oxycontin to percocets to mushroom i mean to i look at the mushrooms is a different thing now that's not a good thing to say but like the harder drugs the drugs that like tear you down i never did anything with needles never did anything like that but the coke and the oxy you always have your wine you know i know like dude i i can't tell you how many times i've said that yeah yeah i'm like come on ah not really a drug addict yeah never did meth needles never did anything like that but the coke and the oxys and the percocet were very very tumultuous in my life and like pop their head, especially the days of wandering around the Hollywood Hills.
Starting point is 00:49:26 And it makes sense why you see me so sporadic. And like I was 210 pounds when I left Cleveland. I was 170 pounds sitting in Vegas that August, that September, October, whatever it was later in the year. How do you lose 40 pounds? You're on a strict diet of blow. Oh, I was about to say, you're on a strict diet of blow oh i was about to say you don't want either one of them i mean you lose 40 pounds in that length of time you
Starting point is 00:49:50 gonna crack or i'll zimp it so housewife shot yeah so is he saying that that's after cleveland released him yeah or like in one off season okay no i think, I think, yeah, the last year. Was he, is he intimating? Was he doing coke while playing? I didn't get that vibe. For the Browns? I don't think so. I don't think so, but. Maybe painkillers, but I don't think he was taking hard drugs.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Dude, and, you know, I guess we're not journalists, so I don't really have to, like, substantiate any of this, but, I mean, I would hear from people that were on campus at the time that were like, dude, this dude is drinking at halftime. Dang.
Starting point is 00:50:32 So that's not the same as, like, Coke or Oxys or whatever, but that he would just, like, keep fireball in the locker room. That's – Guzzle up and just go out there and ball in the second half no problem yeah it's it's really amazing to me because like him saying i'm the guy i got to be the guy at the party i got to be the guy doing the most whatever i mean if you think logically if you you are Johnny Manziel. Well, the two clauses you just – Yeah, I suppose Johnny Manziel – Was not thinking logically.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And it's like the – it's the reason I'm, you know, one of the reasons you can be so impressed with LeBron. You're kind of given the keys to everything early on, yet you still remain like – You're right. Exactly. Yeah. But had you been this, you know, Johnny Manziel, you would think, well, at the worst, not at the worst, because the worst is what happened to him.
Starting point is 00:51:36 But you could be a backup quarterback in the league. You can make a minimum of a million a year, probably a couple million a year for a decade, you don't really get hit a lot. Like, who's... Chase Daniel, what a great career. Dude. If you think about it.
Starting point is 00:51:53 My buddy RG. Yeah. Like, I mean, he was in the league for 12 years by just being, like, smart. Yeah. And just... You walk out with 10 million, 20 million in the bank. Yeah. You, and just you walk out with $10 million,
Starting point is 00:52:06 $20 million in the bank. Yeah. You know, just I always think of, was it Rick Meyer with Drew Bledsoe? Rick Meyer was number two overall pick back then. Drew Bledsoe number one. You would think Rick Meyer, big
Starting point is 00:52:21 bust. Certainly he was for the team that drafted him number two overall. But he ended up a career backup for 15 years. And he was a great teammate and great backup to have and support. That's a great career. Yeah, but you just knew Manziel was never going to be that guy. Same with RG3? Yeah. RG3 was a little bit different because it was like his success was so scheme specific. I would actually say that about
Starting point is 00:52:54 pre-Neil Kaepernick. People would be like, oh, why wouldn't you just sign Kaepernick as a backup? Neil? Before Kaepernick was like kneeling toal? Before Kaepernick was kneeling to the anthem. I thought his name was Colin. Not Neal O'Donnell.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I just mean there's something incredibly specific about their skill sets that you would have to sort of flip it. You would have to be with a team with a quarterback similar. That's what people used to say, like the Ravens would sign Colin Kaepernick, right? Right. They could still run like – Well, they did.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah, yeah. Didn't they have RG3 for a bit as their backup? Exactly. Yeah. So some of that like carries over a little bit. You know, because it's really funny whenever we hear Cooper Rush yell, here we go. Well, and is that why –
Starting point is 00:53:44 That doesn't really work. Is that why Cam Newton has complained about him not being able to get a shot as a backup? Yeah. Is that the same thing? I think it's completely the same thing. You can't run a same offense sometimes with Cam Newton. And I think the ego is a huge part of it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I think there's no doubt that in that era, Johnny Manziel had a massive ego. He did, but in a couple clips I'm about to play, it's amazing how... He's been humbled. He had a pretty low self-esteem in the league. In fact, let me just get to that now. esteem in the league um and in fact let me just get to that now um so the big bulk of the second part uh was his time in cleveland i got a couple clips here and he just details that events that
Starting point is 00:54:33 happened um that led him to just quit uh being in the nfl and the first one uh is brian hoyer of all people oh yeah you know kyle shanahan was the most detailed person that I had ever seen in my life. And I thought Cliff Kingsbury was really, really good. But Shanahan took it to a different level. He could coach 11, 12 positions on the offense. Detail hat placement, hand placement, every single thing. So our meetings and things were incredibly detailed. My quarterback room was not a home for me because of brian hoyer brian hoyer had been waiting on opportunity to be able
Starting point is 00:55:15 to go really provide for his family get an opportunity and he saw how much of an upper hand he had on me and he didn't hold back when it came to that. So there was instances in the quarterback room early on where I would ask the same question a couple times, and he'd be at the head of the table and go, again? We're doing this again? Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Keep him out of it, right? Let's just cut that off, and I don't have a bad word to say about Brian Hoyer. That is just fact of what happened in that room. Damn. So, and we'll get further into it. But, yeah, as a rookie, and he's even admitted it, A&M, the stuff he was able to do was just magic.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It wasn't like, hey, we're going to free you up on this. It wasn't our script. Yeah, it was just back to throw, nobody's open, let me just run around for a little bit. Judd Mike Evans. Yeah, and three first-round picks on the offensive line. And you can get away with that in college sometimes. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Because have you seen lately, this is about a month ago, I think Brady was picking apart somebody or doing some kind of quarterback film study and saying, yeah, oftentimes when you see somebody make something out of nothing, that person has actually made poor reads that has led them to having to run. Well, that's why the Mahomes evaluation was so tough. Everybody would look at what Texas Tech was doing, and they're like, well, why is he bailing 2.3 into the dropback? And are these route concepts viable at the NFL level?
Starting point is 00:56:59 You know what I mean? Yeah. Like Vince Young, for example, was like a very tough NFL evaluation, whereas like if you play in a pro-style offense in college, people are like, okay, you know. You can do this. You can do this. But a lot of times you kind of want like the best of both worlds or whatever. But I don't know, like just throwing Brian Hoyer under the table.
Starting point is 00:57:22 No, that sounds incredible. I love this kind of stuff. I love learning stuff years after the fact. Yeah. When you're watching, you wonder. Why did – because you were one of the few guys who was actually yelling pretty loud that Johnny Manziel will not be good. Why did I think that?
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah, was part of it the pro-style offense type thing? No, it was that people would tell me that he was an alcoholic and he was 5'11". Okay. And I'm like, all right, well, that seems like two marks against you. Like if you're going to be an NFL quarterback, you kind of have to be. I would prefer an NFL quarterback that wants to go to a megachurch. Because you can probably get away with being in a lot of positions
Starting point is 00:58:07 in the NFL and have lots of off-the-field activities. That's why you love Trevor Lawrence so much. I think he's great. I think he loves his wife. And I think he probably 95% of the time has missionary sex.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And I think that's what I want out of my quarterback. Yeah. I don't want a guy who's like, you know, I don't know. Jake wants his quarterback to do missionary. Yeah. Got it. Basically, yeah. And I think Dak fits that bill.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you mentioned just learning behind the scenes stuff. Probably don't like Brian Hoyer, but you're going to love Josh McCown. So I'm not saying a word. Now I'm struggling.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Now I'm getting behind. Now I don't know the detail of the plays because I'm not going home and dialing it in even more. In the building, I studied film. I wanted to watch these Rex Grossman clips of Washington and Shanahan. I wanted to watch RG3 2012 season. I wanted to see how you do this stuff. And I watched it.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Did I grind it the way that Peyton Manning does? Absolutely not. I didn't even know that was a thing until Josh McCown got in the building the next year. And when Josh McCown came in, the shift in that room went through the roof of positivity. When I got there, he comes up to me and he goes, you want to be a great quarterback? I go, yeah. He goes, tie a string to the end of my backpack and you can follow me around wherever you want. And I'll show you what it takes to really be a quarterback in the NFL. Now, when that goes to the practice field and we're out there and we're dialing in these bang eights
Starting point is 00:59:49 we're throwing the comeback McCown's sitting there like you can't fucking do this I can't make that throw but you can't what do you think that does for a second year of players confidence through the roof that's awesome and I wonder how much if he had been able to stay, like, a little bit more on the straight and narrow, like, if he could have actually pulled this off. Because, like, I think, like, the blueprint was, like, Drew Brees, right? It was, like, can he be Drew Brees? Can't see over the line, but if he can hit, as he said, the bang eight in the comeback, which he had the arm to do, then can he exist in the league? And that's exactly, it's funny, because that's exactly what you're talking about
Starting point is 01:00:39 with Chase Daniel or whoever else. That's Josh McCown. Chase Daniel or whoever else, that's Josh McCown. Yeah, so this – Like that's a guy who can exist in the league for 15 years and be like, just follow me and I'll show you. This is how we do it. Well, does this lend to the – you know, you've wondered about certain guys. Well, what if they were drafted by this team?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Right. Would they – would things have been different? Number one, we thought Cleveland might be better for him because he's him. It's not Dallas, it's Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:01:12 It's glitzy. Like it's, you know, 11 p.m., things are done there. Right. But then you think of the, how many, this used to be a thing,
Starting point is 01:01:23 I don't know how much it is now, but I remember it like with Eli Manning. The Giants acquired Eli Manning, but they also got, I don't remember, is it Steve DeBerg? They acquired another real veteran quarterback who was used, like he had done it before. He had been around saying, you're going to start at first, but more importantly than that,
Starting point is 01:01:50 and now you might just have too much money invested, you've got to start right away, but you're going to teach you how to be an NFL quarterback. I'll bet Peyton Manning would have been, not Peyton, Eli Manning would have been fine either way because he's the Manning. Well, we bring up Mark Sanchez with Dak all the time, right? And that's immediately what I thought of listening to this. Like Romo wanted no barfing. But that wasn't why he was acquired.
Starting point is 01:02:11 No, it wasn't why he was acquired. But that's the important thing. Mark Sanchez was like an extremely high pick. Right. So when he's saying he brought Brian Hoyer in, Brian Hoyer at the time was thinking, I want to start. I want to get that contract. He wasn't...
Starting point is 01:02:29 Brian Hoyer of today or maybe a few years ago was more of a career backup and you knew who he was. But at the time... At the time, maybe he thought, I'm trying to make...
Starting point is 01:02:38 That's at least what Manziel was intimating there, right? Yes. But you bring in... Who was the next one? McCown. At that point in his career, he's career backup.
Starting point is 01:02:51 He's guy... I'm bringing you in to beat Crash Davis. Do you know Crash Davis? Yeah. The Kevin Costner character in Bull Durham. You never know. No, I know. I think that was a great... I love that movie.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I'm glad Blake was able to pull that. Kick-ass reference, too. The nuke. So, you know, that just shows how important it is to... I mean, with this position, you probably want to make every expenditure you can to, like, hey... And especially if you're scouting Johnny Manziel.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. I don't think it would have been hard to know about his party habits. No. So it's a, hey... a hey i don't think so let's get this guy in here to help not only the coaching staff but i need this guy to kind of be his mentor this clearly is a you know when you look at the browns as a clown organization like is it just the yeah it's the browns He might have had a better chance somewhere else. He might have always flamed out.
Starting point is 01:03:50 But had he been led by... Maybe if he had McCown from the get-go, it could have been different. But yeah, that just places the importance on that room. And for a young guy... And like I said, he's obviously dealing with a low opinion of himself that he can't do this. And a guy mocking him in the film room gets to him.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Because you mock it. It's because you mock it. But just like it seemed like this guy was on top of the world. And come to find out, like one little thing set him off. So I will tell you this, though. I do think that he could have had a higher degree of success had he been with a non-Cleveland organization. But as a veteran therapy guy, I can just tell you, like, when I listen to him talk, like, that guy needed a lot of help.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Does it sound like he's been through therapy since then? Yeah, and, like, I still feel like he's got maybe a ways to go when I hear him talk now. But I just feel like he talks like a guy who needed a lot of intervention. Because he still is. I mean, if you're blaming, you're blaming others. Yeah, and the key is are you 100% blaming others or are you getting closer to 50% blaming others. Yeah, and the key is, are you 100% blaming others, or are you getting closer to 50% blaming others? Whereas I feel like if you would have interviewed him 10 years ago, he would have said, none of this is my fault. And now he's like, well, half of this was my fault.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And so to me, he just sounds like a guy who always probably had, I don't know if it's like a chemical imbalance, or just the way that he was raised or whatever. It feels like he was going to have a hard time in the NFL no matter what. And he's 5'11". Yes, but. There's also that. Yeah, a lot of it is just like he's just very fragile. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Which feeds into this next clip. So you asked like, was it Cleveland? Yes. And here's like forget, probably about week 13 or 14 of the season, I'm walking out of Coach Petten's office or I'm upstairs where the coach's offices are in Cleveland. And I walk by Jimmy O'Neal's office. And he's like, hey, Johnny, come in here for a sec. I'm like, oh, it's our defensive coordinator. I'm like, what's up, coach? And I'm chilling with everybody.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Like, I'm up. That, it's our defensive coordinator. I'm like, what's up, coach? And I'm chilling with everybody. Like, I'm up. That's just how I am. And he's like, he's sitting back at his desk. Kind of got his foot up. And he goes, you know, we'd be a really good football player if you got your head out of your ass. And I'm like, so caught off guard. Now this confidence that I'm building is immediately just,
Starting point is 01:06:46 I don't know if he meant it in a way or just like, you know, you're two and 12 and your team is struggling and you're like, you know, looking to ways to vent or whatever it was, but this happened. And when I left that office and I went back down to the quarterback room, I was white as a ghost. So white that Josh McCown looked at me just like you are and was like, what happened? And I'm like stuttering through this story. And Josh McCown gets up out of his seat and walks straight up to that fucking office.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Now, what was said, I don't exactly know what it is. But when he came back in that room, he was pissed. He said, you don't do that. In this league with a young guy and somebody like you, you just don't break me in half. And from there, I was pissed. He said, you don't do that. In this league with a young guy and somebody like you, you just don't break me in half. And from there, I was broken. I didn't give a fuck. I didn't care about that team.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I didn't care about what my role was. And there's no excuse. All of these things led up to be the perfect failure. And at the end of the day, it's on my shoulders. But when you're starting to get a little momentum and you get broken like that, that's when the running to Vegas happened and me missing the last game of the season. That's when the wig story comes out and when I'm really like running two, three weeks after this, when this happened, I go straight home. I go straight to my basement. I get the biggest bottle of Hennessy
Starting point is 01:08:05 out of the bottom of the drawer and now I'm sitting in the basement. I'm listening to Future every second, every day. I'm partying by myself just to try and like get out of this reality of a situation that I'm living in with a head coach that wants nothing to do with me,
Starting point is 01:08:22 with a DC who's saying if I get my head out of my ass, we'll have a chance. Just this whole perfect storm of just like, fuck this. And when that happened, I was done. So I would say this. Now I think he would have never made it just because his mental makeup no matter what if josh mccann was in there from the beginning i mean i feel like certain guys it's your mental makeup
Starting point is 01:08:54 yeah maybe that's out of his control in the end yeah yeah it's but it's kind of like what you bring up with uh like lebron earlier like lebron is programmed as a cyborg. But it isn't because we brought in this guy to usher him. No. He's not a coach. It's not a vet. It's just that's the way that his brain is. And I'm not saying, well, possibly my mental makeup is better. But the point is, like I just remember I had a really rough time in a stop before when i came to dallas i was in
Starting point is 01:09:26 dayton ohio and i had a guy that i would walk in the the guy who was our program director at the time and there were two of them in my time there so if any of them either hear that you ever hear this they can decide which one of us yeah a little spider-man meme but i would uh i would i would sneak in the back door so i would never have to see like it was a he was a terror to me and it was very emotionally difficult to where um i remember i just got a notebook and would write about it and that to me was like a release of it somehow i I guess some people have to talk it out. I would not really do that as much. Somehow I just had to write about, man, I'd love to find that old notebook and just see what a wuss I was.
Starting point is 01:10:16 But it was just like to live through it. And I was getting my car repoed. I was not making the money Johnnyny manziel is making or just didn't have you know that there was no real opportunities in front of me where like even him as a if i fail at this i could still be a backup and like it was so i wonder about his mental makeup if that but he was dealing with a lot of pressure i mean first round pick you're going to be cleveland savior skip bayless is saying you're going to be bigger than LeBron is. I mean, I'm sure
Starting point is 01:10:48 that... Drake writing songs about you? But that exacerbates the, you know, that if you don't have the mental makeup, I mean, maybe he had the mental makeup to be a six round pick. Dude, I mean, we talked about it whenever
Starting point is 01:11:03 we watched that documentary. It was basically like he was like, I just had fun playing football. Like I didn't want to do this. I didn't want to be like some alpha, everything has got to be about work all the time. That's how NFL quarterbacks succeed. That's what they have to do, right? Yes. I mean, people make fun of me for bringing up Mahomes, but I've seen
Starting point is 01:11:25 what he does. And it doesn't look fun. So do you have to... Missionary? No. So again, how do you evaluate that? Possibly. I mean... Out of college. Is it interviews? Is it this and that? Is it figuring out... Yeah, I think most teams can sniff it out pretty quick. Okay, so
Starting point is 01:11:41 this was... I think the Browns are like... Does this go back to Jimmy Haslam and the homeless guy? Yeah. I mean, I think most teams can figure that out pretty quickly. He said he met a homeless guy outside their facility who said, you got to draft Johnny Manziel, and that put him over the top. Jeez. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I wonder if – And now they've given $248 million to Deshaun Watson. Yeah, I wonder where he falls if the Browns don't take him. I mean, 21 was pretty late for a freshman Heisman Trophy winner. Certainly you would think someone in the second round at least is going to take a shot. Probably. But most teams are able to...
Starting point is 01:12:16 Probably here. Probably here would have been the other option. I mean, if they talked him out of doing it in the first round and he's still there in the second round? It's possible. I would say there's very little chance Jerry is saying wait. The second round? Yeah, you're probably right. But there's like five teams. Because how many second round
Starting point is 01:12:32 flyers have they taken? Yeah, a lot. A lot. But could you imagine him saying, yeah, Tony Romo, front row. Because it would have been the same thing. Romo would have treated him horrible. And so you've mentioned LeBron a couple times. This is the last thing I'll play. LeBron tried to take Johnny under his wing.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Do you remember this? No. It was a big deal, dude. Well, maybe I will if he... Yeah, LeBron and Maverick Carter signed him and was just trying to help him along. And he does take some accountability. I'll give him that.
Starting point is 01:13:08 They gave me the best fighting chance and built a team around me. And the thing that I realize now is the reason why they're probably still pissed at me to this day. They don't lose. They don't bet on anything that's not as short. He's talking about LeBron and Maverick Carter when they don't lose. When they sign an athlete. Like Amy Schumer. I don't understand that joke.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Have you guys not seen that clip of LeBron talking about Luca from the shop? Oh, and she's in the room? Yeah, it's a weird 10 seconds. It just pans to Amy Schumer. It's like, all right, what are your thoughts on his step back? But the way he's starting to describe this, though, sounds to me kind of like Nike. Yeah, yeah. Phil Knight. Like, if Nike says
Starting point is 01:13:49 I'm putting it on you, then you are the next one. Yeah. They gave me the best fighting chance and built a team around me. And the thing that I realize now is the reason why they're probably still pissed at me to this day. They don't lose. They don't bet on anything that's not a sure
Starting point is 01:14:06 thing. And what I did and the way I carried myself and the way that I was in my time during Cleveland was pure and blatant disrespect to them for giving me everything that I could have ever needed to be successful. So something that still to this day, I think now that we're talking about it, I haven't completely, truly got over yet, you know, how I let them down. And I remember this is how bad off I was whenever I was in Cleveland. You know, LeBron would text me every week to come over to the house and watch a game or play poker with the boys and just tried to be there. And I was so depressed for the first time in my life that even my biggest role model and inspiration in my life couldn't get me out of bed to come and hang out with him. You know, when I went to the Cavs games, I went, I was in, I was out.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I didn't really grasp and latch on to him in a way that I should have. And he tries to take me under his wing. Right. And I'm just kind of nudging it away because of where my mental is and being just fully depressed and where i was in my life is that an excuse absolutely not because at the end of the day the respect that i should have for them giving me everything should trump all else man that hurts yeah yeah you had that that hurts if you have that support behind you but i mean i i still do think that you know the fact that he's willing to talk about it now um in some ways means that he has come a long way because that is the worst part about it is like when you can't get out of bed the worst part about it is when you're like, I just don't want to do anything.
Starting point is 01:15:49 LeBron James wants me to come over and watch a game with him. And you're so depressed. You're like, I can't get out of bed. And everybody expects you to, you know, be a franchise quarterback. So, I don't know. That's tough. That's really tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I mean, he seems so well thought out. He has discussed this with somebody that's trained. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The way he is able to just speak on his thoughts and go back to that moment and perfectly illustrate what he was going through. But, dude, I mean, I was 23 when he was at A&M winning. He was such a big deal. And looking back, listening to his answers, it's such a facade. He was on top of the world.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I actually would not say that that's a facade. I would say that that's how a lot of people are. I would say that a lot of people that present that way, it's like they don't have a middle ground so it's like the way that you are publicly and the way that you are privately are extremes as opposed to being like a grounded middle of the road person does that make sense yeah like i think a lot of people like mike tyson for example right like hasn't mike tyson talked about like being like incredibly depressed before but he was like the baddest mfr of all time like i think that's pretty common that people that are just like all the way out there confident
Starting point is 01:17:13 when they get by themselves and quiet they don't feel that great about themselves yeah and maybe i just i haven't learned that yet but for him to to, like you said, just, I mean, Drake rapped a song for him to walk across the draft stage. Yeah, that was really weird. And he is partying with everybody. And at the end of the day, like, some defensive coordinator is the guy that broke him? Like that's, and he's taking solace in Josh McCown?
Starting point is 01:17:43 That is crazy. That does feel like a low point. And getting busted by Brian Hoyer. Yeah. Like, things, man, I don't know. It was just very confusing for a guy that... I forgot about Mike Pettin, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And he was saying Pettin didn't want him. And of course he didn't. But, I don't know. It's just strange, man, to just see what he did at A&M and then to go to Cleveland and just have no confidence at all. It was an amazing two-hour listen. And he speaks very well. It was very easy to listen to him talk about everything for a couple hours.
Starting point is 01:18:22 It was not sporadic. It was very concise. Is he a pro golfer yet? Not yet. Okay. What's the timeline on that? I'd have to go back and check the notes. But he said by the time he was 30?
Starting point is 01:18:36 He gave himself a decade. This is a while back, obviously. All right. Good stuff, Blake. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Good stuff, Blake. Thanks. It's very funny if you have single female friends and you're, like, if your wife is friends with them, to watch them all gather around a phone. Yeah. And just go to work. You could tell the messages that came from a group of girls rather than just one. Yeah. They're like, no one yeah they're like no
Starting point is 01:19:05 if they're real aggressive if they have a pickup line it's a baby yeah and then you got pretty good at looking at their profiles and finding out oh she's the fat one in the group jeez you had to know were you wary of like the close-up face picture like oh my gosh if she's not showing any of her body i had a set of rules yeah go on oh man I gotta I gotta hearken back uh yeah anything from collarbones up fat
Starting point is 01:19:32 if her first picture is a group photo she's the ugly one and um oh if it's a far away picture like she's doing something like, look at me, I'm shooting a gun or something. She's ugly. Because hot girls will show off.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So, yeah, big sunglasses. That's a doe. You know what's under there. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. What does Blake do? What does Blake do? What does Blake do? What does Blake do? What would you say?
Starting point is 01:20:17 This is a fast turnaround. Some of our in-studio guests have confirmed, in fact, that Cam Newton owns a trucking company based in Carrollton. Okay. He checks in on it? Yeah. Is it called Heisman Logistics or something? Uh,
Starting point is 01:20:34 Stolen Computer Logistics. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was a bad dude in Florida. Is that on the list? Yeah. Yeah, right? It's got to be. What would you say? What does Blake do?
Starting point is 01:20:53 What does Blake do? I knew that was coming at some point. That means the punctuator. Yep. Knew that was coming. It's out of our hands at this point. Out of our hands, folks. Okay, we got a lot still to get to.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Let's do this. Oh, no, that's not on the list. Hey, everybody. It's not? It's time to answer some of today's viewer mail. He stole a laptop. But you know what is. We got other stuff, so we might not answer a lot of mail.
Starting point is 01:21:19 From Cam? Yeah, what's his art collection? Oh, that's light work, brother. He has three portraits in his entranceway. One of MLK, one of Obama, and one of Cam Newton. In his own house.
Starting point is 01:21:38 What if I did that, but it was just me? I just had Obama, MLK, and then me. I think that'd be great. Like, if I do get this, like, addition added onto my house. Yes. Is the addition going to be a lot, like, the new Jake office?
Starting point is 01:21:55 That's the hope. Yeah, okay. You can come live there if you want. I'll pitch in. Although, you got this, so you'll pitch in. Okay, well. To get you one. You need it.
Starting point is 01:22:01 So you'll pitch in. Okay. Well. To get you one. You need it. Mostly just want to get some birthdays from viewers in viewer mail. Dumb Zone. To be honest, I'm not sure I'm doing this right.
Starting point is 01:22:19 February 26th is my husband Sam's birthday. We are newlyweds. We got married on 1-2- 3, 1, 2, 3. Blake. Oh, that was popular. 12, 31, 23. Me? That's kind of a cool bit.
Starting point is 01:22:35 No, you're the Kobe guy. Kobe? Yeah, you love numerology. Yeah. That's a smooth move, though, because... You'll never forget. Well, you'll never forget in all... Like 9-11. And you'll also, like...
Starting point is 01:22:50 You'll never have to do, like, New Year's Eve and a wedding anniversary. Yeah. Like, you got it all booked in together, man. Yeah. He's an early 300 Patreon member, listens to y'all every day his favorite drop is gotta be the booty feels like uh from the old place gotta be the booty although you've said it a few times that would tell you guys the michelle the really funny um well it's funny to me uh like javier's story where i played that for my father-in-law.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Actually, it wasn't my idea. It was my wife's idea. My father-in-law, like my wife, from New Orleans, and he was like, I don't see anything funny about this. Because he speaks just like that, right? Yeah. And you're laughing like, look at this dumbass. My imperious leader,
Starting point is 01:23:43 today is my Alexi Ogondo birthday. 37, Blake? What do you think? Man, I had his jersey too. You had an Alexi Ogondo jersey. I loved Alexi Ogondo. But I don't think I remember his number. Appreciate all you guys do.
Starting point is 01:24:03 I've been dealing with some mental health and self-destructive behaviors, and worst of all, this inferior communication method known as Yahoo. Your show helps me break out of any funk I may be in. No pressure,
Starting point is 01:24:13 but my life depends on you. Some shinfo. During your last year at the ticket, I sent fake birthdays for my friends from each other just to troll them. I don't think I ever told them it was me, so I guess it was a joke for one. Anyway, if you bag on this or call me a loser, you're a real ass.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Because, you know, mental health issues and all. From Ty Hot Carl. So he's got a mental health force field. Well, Ty, you sound like a real loser to me. I was going to say that's a good bit. Ty, to me, I feel like probably no one would miss you. Now, do you count yourself as someone with a... You're allowed to say that?
Starting point is 01:25:00 Like the N-word? Yeah, like you've just said, as a guy who knows some therapy stuff, like you're a fellow. He's in the bubble. Yeah. Ty, if you're listening to me, it's not going to get better. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Just take care of it now. Hey, Dan, day two, DF number 601. It is my brother Chad Hannon's birthday. He's 45. He loves you guys. Would get a kick out of you giving him a shout out. Here's your kick. Leaders, Blake's dating app
Starting point is 01:25:31 tips. More Blake. Keep doing what you're doing, Playboy. Sean. So his brother is Chad. Hey, Sean. And I'm going to save these other viewer mails because we've already gone pretty late today. So we'll read that stuff at some future moment.
Starting point is 01:25:49 But I think it's time to shift into abruptly stop the music. Shane on SNL talk. Oh, did you watch it, Blake? Nope. OK, awesome. Thanks for participating again. Just present it to the audience that hasn't seen it either. I haven't seen it. I'd love to know what's funny from it.
Starting point is 01:26:12 You should tell me. And maybe play audio from it. I'd say the whole show was pretty good. Yeah, I saw some people saying there was a thought that he bombed on the monologue, but I really think it's just something that was incredibly predictable, which is that he doesn't have a ton of TV material. Well, let's do the monologue, and then we can talk about the rest of it too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Because I thought we should play this whole thing. It's like seven minutes long. We can. Yeah. And I just thought a lot of the people that were panning it were like, you don't really get the bit. Shane Gillis, one of our favorite comedians. Okay, so why did he get fired?
Starting point is 01:26:57 See, he was hired on SNL years ago and fired before he ever did a show. Yeah, it was like five hours. and fired before he ever did a show. Yeah, it was like five hours. Because they uncovered, like, they hired him. And then immediately the internet, as it will do, after they announced hiring him, like, hey, do you know that he said this, this, and this on his podcast?
Starting point is 01:27:20 Yeah, so the funny thing about it, I listened to a bunch of Matt and Shane's secret podcast on my way to and from Mexico last week. And, you know, I think it was like 2020. So there's two things, like two currents that are happening at the same time. The first of which is people were just like, oh, I'll just look at your Twitter and Instagram to vet you. And most comedians at that time had started to have podcasts. And it's like, what are you going to do? Are you going to listen to a thousand hours of my podcast
Starting point is 01:27:52 and try to figure this out? The second thing that happened was is people were really mad at Asian people for creating COVID. Okay. And they hired BD Wong the same day. And isn't that his name?
Starting point is 01:28:10 Or is it Bowen Yang? I feel like you just did a they all look alike thing. Because BD Wong was Law and Order or something. Law and Order SVU or something. Yeah, so they hired Bowen Yang that same day and Shane had like some... Okay, so I don't know who he is.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Was he in a sketch with him? Oh, yeah. He was the game show host. Okay. Yeah. They were on screen like four or five times together. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Because I didn't know if this would be a... If you've read that SNL book, like when Andrew Dice Clay was on, somebody had a real problem with him. She would never have been in a sketch with him. And I think she quit, right? I don't recall. I think so. But I just know.
Starting point is 01:28:50 So all that was happening at the same time. They brought him in. They wanted to be like edgy by hiring him. And then they hire Bo and Yang. Shane had some offensive comments about like MSG and Chinese food. And the funniest part about it to me was... But it was with a comedic vein.
Starting point is 01:29:09 It was. It was in a humorous vein. He was doing his funny comedy podcast. And the funniest part about it was he said that when they called him in, they were like, this is what you found? I'm glad it's only this yeah it gets so much worse if you keep going
Starting point is 01:29:27 and then now you know four years later the career arc is they need him so they brought him back in I love it okay so yeah here's the opening monologue thank you thank you very much it's yeah I'm here most of you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yeah, I'm here. Most of you probably have no idea who I am. I was actually... I was fired from this show a while ago, but if, you know... Don't look that up, please. If you don't know who I am, please don't Google that. It's fine. Don't even worry about it. I don't know who i am please don't google that it's fine don't even worry about it i uh i don't know i this is i probably shouldn't be up here honestly i should be home i should be
Starting point is 01:30:13 i should be a high school football coach that's what i should be like god molded me perfectly to be a high school football coach slash ninth grade sex education teacher. I thought it was surreal seeing him. Yeah, it was so weird. But that is what I want to be. That is, you know, I can feel it. It's in there. It's like my true calling.
Starting point is 01:30:36 And you feel, you know, I can feel it. You know, I'm getting older. It's passing me by. You know, like my biological clock is ticking on this stream. You know how like when a woman's biological clock is ticking, she sees like a baby in a stroller and is like, oh my God, your baby. Like that's how I am if I see like a big 15-year-old. I'm like, oh my God, look at the size of that kid.
Starting point is 01:30:57 With the right coaching, that kid could be something special, I'm telling you right now. I actually, I come from a long line of coaches in my family. My father is actually a volunteer assistant girls high school basketball coach. He's actually here right now. Can you get him on there? Yeah. There he is. There's my dad.
Starting point is 01:31:20 The volunteer assistant girls high school basketball coach. I thought it was funny. All right. You don't think that's funny to bring my dad here to make fun of him for being a girls' high school basketball coach? All right. I thought it was great. Never mind. I thought that was going to be a big hit here.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Okay, so now my mom's up there with him. At this point, he's realizing like the crowd is like uncomfortable you know what i mean yeah like they were laughing but like i feel like at this point he's realizing like okay like i just made a joke about my dad ostensibly being a pedophile and maybe everybody's not vibing with that yeah Yeah, yeah. He's like, okay, well, where do we go from here? Because after this, I've got a whole Down syndrome bit. Well, no, no. And yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:32:12 It's like, all right, well, I already wrote this whole thing. And the thing about him, it's kind of like the humor he does. I don't know. I almost think it's a doofus. I almost think it's like us in a way, just like a lot of people that everybody knows is they're not racist, but they'll, you know, they're not sexist, but it's like,
Starting point is 01:32:33 I can't wait till my wife gets back in the kitchen or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Like you're doing a parody of... Almost a parody of it, but everybody's laughing and we all know. But you know the bit. If you have a transcript of things people
Starting point is 01:32:46 say and then put it on twitter or something oh wait you said that like that's not funny there's no context in which that is funny also blake like you should know that uh obviously this is like SNL. So it's mainstream. It's super mainstream. It's super liberal for the most part. The people behind him that are like in the band, most of them not laughing. I know that there was like some... No, I want to push back and say,
Starting point is 01:33:19 I think they never do. Okay. Because I saw that as part of the reaction like, hey, let's zoom in on the woman behind him. I just thought that woman looked like I could not, I would rather be anywhere else than listening to this right now. Possibly, but I would, we're going to have to go back and look at some other shows, because I feel like that's their demeanor, like they're almost told. Don't.
Starting point is 01:33:43 You know, where like Paul schaefer would be told hey laugh along you want to sell the guest whereas i feel like the band never is roaring or laughing or making any you may be right maybe is the audio from the crowd artificial because it sounded like the crowd was into it um i think actually what i read was that the crowd laughter always sounds louder on television than it is in the room. Okay. So I don't know. But he clearly is reacting a little bit like, and he kind of never does that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:16 He doesn't really react to the crowd. He just rolls with his funny bits. My mom, I'm not going to make funny. My mom asked me this a lot and it's kind of an intense question my mom asked me she's like when did we stop being best friends and she's right we used to be best friend you remember that when you were a little boy and you like you loved your mom and you thought she was the cool you remember when you were gay you remember when you were just a gay little boy every little boy is just their mom's gay best friend there's literally zero difference so i feel like now this this hits so hard for me no it's hilarious yeah because yes
Starting point is 01:34:51 especially if like your mom was divorced for a brief amount of time but where we're getting here i think is that gay has been eased out of the well we don't use that in a comedic vein. Right, right. Where... But it's in this middle boat. Yeah. Right? It's like, do we say it? Do we say the word midget? Do we say...
Starting point is 01:35:14 There are certain words that people commonly use, but then it was kind of... It's almost like the cancel thing. It pushed too far this way, and then it's going to push back a little. And I feel like this is, but I feel like on SNL monologue,
Starting point is 01:35:35 no one's using gay in a comedic tone. No, no. Or a vein. No, no, no. He's,
Starting point is 01:35:40 but so now he's like setting the stage for like, Oh wait. Oh, but dude, I, wait. But, dude. But he also just rolls and just does the bit, and it's funny. Before you play the rest of the show, did this not make you think of you and your mom? My gosh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Me and my mom would hang out until 11 o'clock at night. Pictures of me with the long hair. And I could see it now with my son. You had long hair? Oh, my gosh. I could see it now with my son and my wife. hair? Oh my gosh. I can see it now with my son and my wife. That's awesome. I'll show you some real gay pictures.
Starting point is 01:36:08 They're just like little gay best friends. They're just... They're very tight. Yeah. I was gay for my mom. She would pick me up from school. I'd hop in the van.
Starting point is 01:36:19 I'd be like, girl, tell me about your day. I thought she was cool. I would listen to her music. I'd be like, bam, bam, ba-dam, bam, bam, bam. Let's go, girls. me about your day i thought she was cool i would listen to her music i'd be like bam bam bam bam bam let's go girls i would dance for her just be like look at my little dancer but uh and especially i think if the mom doesn't have any girls. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:36:45 You're probably going to have to. Yeah. No, I mean, dude, we would listen. I was telling my wife about this the other day. We would listen to In Vogue. Sure. Like in the morning. And I would just like dance around like a little.
Starting point is 01:36:57 I think my mom loved Prince. Yeah, of course. And it's like, oh, yeah. My mom asked me when we stopped being best friends, and I don't have the heart to tell her, because like most men, I know exactly when me and my mom stopped being friends. It was the first time I whacked off.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Alright. It was before. So, obviously now we're taking another step into the... Has that ever been said on Saturday Night Live? Right. No way.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Or even regular TV. Yeah, I don't think so. Because certainly, and I got thinking about this after the whole thing was over, you couldn't have said that on the ticket. No. And not today. No, we had to train Blake. Trust your radio.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Stop putting slurs in the crowbar. Later in this show, they said titty twice referring to the boob. They said goddamn a couple times. And certainly,
Starting point is 01:37:56 you would have been dumped on the ticket for saying titty. Sure. I think once Jubb called somebody a titty baby because they were just being a whatever and it got dumped. A titty baby. Yeah. Because they were just being a
Starting point is 01:38:07 whatever and it got dumped. A titty baby. Yeah. They were being a titty baby. Yeah. And that wasn't
Starting point is 01:38:12 referring to the Jug. Right. But it still got dumped like over the, out of an abundance of caution.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Anyway. Before that you're like, oh, where's my mom? I love my mom. She's so cool. One nut. You're like, when's that mom i love my mom she's so cool one nut you're like when's that bitch gonna leave the house a nut i have so much business to attend to all right all right i hope i can say those words on tv anyway my whole family's here so i'll talk about them instead of anything else.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Talk about my family. I'll tell you this. I don't know if you guys, if you can tell by looking at me, but I do have family members with Down syndrome. Okay. Now, does it sound like the crowd's into it? No.
Starting point is 01:39:00 A little hesitant. Yeah. That was the, so obviously he's done this thread before in his act. Yeah. Because he's got an uncle with Down syndrome. And he kind of looks like he 25% has Down syndrome. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Yeah, he's got that whatever, sunken look or whatever. But that he's bringing this to SNL, you're like, okay, this is way different than... This is a little different than Sidney Sweeney. Talking about my family, I'll tell you this. I don't know if you guys,
Starting point is 01:39:32 if you can tell by looking at me, but I do have family members with Down syndrome. It almost got me. I dodged it, but it nicked me. It nicked me. It's funny and kind of like the uh you know the force field of mental health uh like a family member yeah yeah okay don't know all right that's obviously you know i couldn't go up and do this bit unless I guess you could lie that you have a family member. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Look, I don't have any material that can be on TV, all right? I'm trying my best. Also, this place is extremely well lit. I can see everyone not enjoying it. This is, you know, just the most nervous i've ever been don't clap now shut up no i talk about i brought up down syndrome you got you can always tell who's never been around down syndrome when you bring it up like if i tell people if i'm like yeah i have family members with down syndrome people that have never been around it are always like oh like it's like it's the end
Starting point is 01:40:42 of the world like oh are they okay are they It's like, they're doing better than everybody I know They're the only ones having a good time Pretty consistently They're not worried about the election They're having a good time My niece My niece has Down syndrome And I thought that was going to get a bigger laugh
Starting point is 01:41:01 I thought we were going to get a bigger laugh. I thought we were going to have fun here. But no, my niece has Down syndrome. It's a funny thing that happens when someone in your family has Down syndrome. It goes, when my sister was pregnant, everybody was like very, very scared. And then once, you know, once they come into your life, you realize that's easily the only good member of your entire family. It's crazy. And then your family gets like too proud.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Like now every single day in my family's group text it's just pictures of my niece and every day somebody else in my family comments she looks exactly like uncle shane and i'd be like i see it a little and there's no denying it she does she looks like me with bangs just happy just Just happy. Dude, let me say this real quick. I will tell you. I've told you guys before about my mom had a ton of brothers and sisters. And her youngest brother, he didn't have Down syndrome, but he had something that was kind of similar. And Shane is right.
Starting point is 01:42:01 He was the happiest dude all the time. I mean, he's still alive alive actually um but he was just like fun just watched uh walker texas ranger like smoked cigarettes for a long time like just always like in a good mood like he would just tell you these stories that you knew were absolutely made up or he's like telling you about like beating somebody's ass and he's just like yeah I mean four or five guys rushed me and I took them on you know like that did not happen that absolutely did not happen
Starting point is 01:42:34 did you just let it go? of course yeah but he was just like always pretty happy I would agree he is one of the few good family members that I have. But my sister, my sister, my niece's mother, she didn't know she'd get pregnant. So she, she foster cared and then adopted three black kids. And then she finally got pregnant. And
Starting point is 01:42:56 now she has a kid with Down syndrome and her husband is from Egypt. He's an Arab guy. You go over to their house. It's like getting in the craziest Uber pool you've ever been. It's crazy. Like, how did you guys meet? But there's something, I don't know, my niece, one day, I'm not saying it's something I'm looking forward to, but I think it'll be a nice thing for the whole country. I would say when my niece is probably in like fifth, sixth grade, out at recess, and some white kids out there are like, hey, you're not allowed
Starting point is 01:43:30 to play with us. You're retarded. And then three black kids come flying out of nowhere and start wailing on that cracker. Everyone's going to be like, oh! It's like a nice moment. Yeah, you guys, You said cracker. No, my family and I, we actually opened a coffee shop in my hometown for people with Down syndrome to work at. And it's going, don't clap. I didn't do it for the claps. I did it, you know.
Starting point is 01:44:01 It's going exactly how you'd think it would go. It's doing well, actually. Lying around the corner every day. Not because there's like a ton of people going, but service is... Everyone's getting apple juice. We don't know how to fix that problem. There's one thing you notice, though, when you work with these guys, and it's funny. Literally, there's zero difference between us and them.
Starting point is 01:44:31 And especially at work, there's no difference. Every day these dudes show up to work just... And you're like, what's your problem, dude? They're like, I hate this job. All right, hey, we've got a great show for you tonight. So part of his thing is obviously it's very funny, but like just even slipping in the word gay, slipping in the word retarded.
Starting point is 01:44:58 I don't know if cracker is... I don't think you can really like use that. Taboo. Yeah. It's just even the taboo word. But, again, it's things people do say, not in offensive ways, but usually you don't see it in mainstream media anymore. Yeah, I think, and I heard him talk about this,
Starting point is 01:45:27 like I was saying on those Matt and Shane podcasts, because I guess he was kind of reminiscing on it a little bit because he was going back, but that Lorne, when he brought him in, was like, I'm not going to do Lorne. You've heard everybody do Lorne. But it was like... Dr. Evil, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Exactly. Lorne was like've heard everybody do Lorne. But it was like... Dr. Evil. Exactly. Like Lorne was like we can weather this. We can weather this storm. Exactly. Like this is not a big deal. And Shane said he was like I don't fucking know man. Like I think this is going to be really bad.
Starting point is 01:46:00 And I think that they're at a point now it's interesting when you bring up like whiplash of cancel culture or whatever, I think SNL is trying desperately to do something edgy. Right, because they were edgy. They were, yeah, for most of their history. And then over the last, whatever it is, handful of years, they've become a little bit more... Quote woke. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:46:27 And him being fired is probably part of that. And he would say that, like, Lorne definitely did not want to fire him. That's interesting. Like that Lorne was like, we need this guy. Like, we need what he does. We need, he, like, killed it as an audition. And if you look at his sketches, they're unbelievable. The Gillian Keefe stuff are so good.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Because imagine those sketches on SNL. I mean, they got pretty close on a couple of them. No, yesterday, or Saturday, it was great. Yeah, I mean, some of it sucked. Like, the cold open was terrible, which he wasn't in. Right. But that, like like to me was like that's the a version of snl and the b version is the sketches he was in and so yeah i just think
Starting point is 01:47:13 like you know lorne knew that we need like a guy like we need a somebody to spice things up a little bit. And I don't know. Like, who's the most risque guy they have, like, actor they have right now? Like, who's – is it Michael Che? I don't know. I know. Like, name – yeah. You don't even know. The news can sometimes be the funniest part. I like the joke swap bit is gold every year with Colin Jost.
Starting point is 01:47:46 They did one that was similar to that this week. But like the news thing they did with Bowen Yang was terrible. Like where he was supposed to be who? Some artist or something? I don't know. It sucked. I feel like
Starting point is 01:48:04 Shane was in less sketches than most hosts are. Yeah, I thought he was in a lot. I feel like he was in like half the show. And the funniest thing that they did, which I sent you guys, was Limu Imu, which they cut. Yeah, I've been reading that they cut a couple things. Limu Imu was so funny. Do you think it just went time? I don't know, dude. Because that was an extremely offensive sketch. The Trump gold shoes bit was very funny. I thought that was
Starting point is 01:48:32 good. The white man can jump or whatever. The Rock Bottom Kings gambling app. That was awesome. It was very funny. Yeah. But yeah, the Limuu imu that felt like an end of show skit what was their end of show i'm trying to remember that they were at a restaurant yeah i don't know i watched it a little bit out of order so okay i can't but i watched the fact that limu is like a dirty cop who like shoots an insurance patient or a customer, that felt like a Gillian Keefe sketch to me. It was great. So anyways, I don't know. I can't believe they let him get away with half the stuff they did,
Starting point is 01:49:15 but I enjoyed it quite a bit. No, that's the way to look. Yeah, I think you put it right. They're trying to not be part of the establishment anymore because they've somehow morphed into that. And you know what I really think? They started out being a, hey, people would never put George Carlin on and this and that, you know?
Starting point is 01:49:37 Yeah. You know what I think made it worse was Trump because everybody universally hates him. worse was Trump because like everybody universally hates him. And it's like, it's almost like it's hard to make fun of his opposition because you're like, this guy sucks so bad that it's like used to, they would do like Clinton jokes. They would do Bush jokes. They would do, you know, Reagan, they would do Carter, they would do whatever. But now it's like, Trump is so obviously, I mean, first of all all he's hilarious but like he's so funny by himself that you almost can't make fun of him right like that's why the
Starting point is 01:50:11 james austin john james austin johnson is awesome because it went off of his actual exactly but like that's like one of the few people that can actually do trump and be funny because trump by himself is funnier than any impression of Trump. The Gillian Keeves Trump stuff is funny. The speed dating thing is good. Trump speed dating, yeah. Yeah. But, like, that's why I feel like if you watch, like, Colbert or Fallon or Kimmel,
Starting point is 01:50:38 like, they're just chasing a dog, dude. Like, there's nothing funny about them trying to be critical of Donald Trump because it's like donald trump is funnier than all three of you right and now you're in a political debate yeah exactly and that's not why we're tuning into that exactly in theory i don't know i enjoyed it quite a bit i thought it was uh i thought it was a good episode blake 21 savage oh really yeah no we woke Blake 21 Savage. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh. We woke Blake up. That doesn't seem to go with Shane Gillis, but okay.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Want to do some news? Sure. Let's go. Here's Shane with the dumb self-made news. Glad you didn't say no. That's all I had. Well, I know you guys are all worried about the AT&T outage from last week. You've got a big credit coming to your account.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Oh, for real? Yeah, it's going to be credited to next month's bill. It's $5. Okay. They don't even have to do that. I'm giving them some applause here because... No. I thought you said it was like 40,000 people were affected and that was it.
Starting point is 01:51:49 So that's a lot of money you're giving up just for... Just for an I'm sorry? 73,000. But it's not... That's not worth anything. You'll never even know. I'm just going to appreciate the gesture. This is corporate shill, Dan. No, no, no. I'm just going to appreciate the gesture. This is corporate shill, Dan.
Starting point is 01:52:07 No, no, no. I'm not trying to. Although, sales at dumbzone.com. Someone from AT&T wants to send an email. Could I have Lily on? Oh, I would have Lily on. We've had Lily on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:25 That was when she was still showing the heavies, though. Oh, man. She stopped. Milana Weintraub. Yeah. Milania. Milania. What did I say?
Starting point is 01:52:35 Milana. Milana. Milania Weintraub follows me on Twitter. We've DM'd. Interesting. That's right. I got a thread going with. We've DM'd. Interesting. That's right. I got a thread going with her. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Yeah. I do it so slow. I feel like she's going a little bit too far. Do you have to go the full top button? I like it, man. Because you know it's there. I know there's got to be something just extraordinary in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:02 I would like the record to be shown that I did find the Bobby Althoff video for Dan oh the deep fake yeah not that great not worth your time was it no it's just her face superimposed on a
Starting point is 01:53:19 yeah it's whatever but has there been one that's been great no but I keep hoping one day Yeah, it's whatever. But has there been one that's been great? No, but I keep hoping. One day. Of her or of any deepfake? Any deepfake. Because I got one.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Who do you got? Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi. There was a good Nancy Pelosi deepfake? Gordon brought it up about seven weeks in a row after I sent it to him on uh see you next Tuesday well you're sharing it with your shut up
Starting point is 01:53:52 okay speaking of Trump this is the most amazing share porn though do you bros share porn no you're like hey man I just saw and I can't say that I've ever really done that before. Here's a really good...
Starting point is 01:54:09 But I knew it was fake, you know? Yeah. So it didn't feel... It doesn't feel like hate, bro. Right. I hate that that message is in Dan and I's text history. Yeah, I gotta delete it. It shows the thumbnail of it, and I was like, uh...
Starting point is 01:54:24 Like, bro, I didn't make it three minutes in this. Let's see how long you can make it. Okay, man, challenge on. Trump was in South Carolina this weekend. Then he texts two minutes later. Yep. And I'm going to play you this audio of him talking to, I believe it is the Black Conservative Federation.
Starting point is 01:54:45 And he makes some points here that I consider to be incredible. But I got indicted for nothing, for something that is nothing. They were doing it because it's election interference. And then I got indicted a second time, and a third
Starting point is 01:55:00 time, and a fourth time. And a lot of people said that that's why the black people like because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated i want to i want to at this point um really uh reiterate to you that he is talking to a crowd of exclusively black people so when he just like says the black people he's talking to only black people that that's why the black people like because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against and they actually viewed me as i'm being discriminated against it's it's been pretty amazing but it possibly i don't know maybe
Starting point is 01:55:37 there's something there a little cut here games black conservatives understand better than most that some of the greatest evils in our nation's history have come from corrupt systems that try to target and subjugate others to deny them their freedom and to deny them their rights. You understand that? I think that's why the black people are so much on my side now, because they see what's happening to me happens to them. Does that make sense? Okay. Kind of a little golf tepid. There's more to me happens to them. Does that make sense? Okay. Kind of a little golf tepid like, yeah, I guess it does. But obviously you can see the angle that he's pursuing here.
Starting point is 01:56:13 I actually love it. Which is that like. It seems brilliant. Hey, I'm basically black. Yeah, but I mean, this is why he cannot be penetrated. He's an impenetrable force because, and I didn't say that word right. That's okay. That he can turn, like if somebody got indicted, he'd be like, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Political career ender. What if you get indicted like five times or whatever? No matter what it is, he can use it all as, ah, I get indicted. Then I get indicted five times, seven times. It's all because it's a witch hunt. It's all like, wow, okay, yeah. Hello. He turns
Starting point is 01:56:53 it into his... He turns every negative into a benefit. It's awesome. I think it's incredible. It's got to be an incredible look at politics and all that kind of stuff. Go on. The mugshot.
Starting point is 01:57:07 We've all seen the mugshot. And you know who embraced it more than anybody else? The black population. It's incredible. What? Holy. Because it's like a family photo if it's for the black people. Every black family has a mugshot.
Starting point is 01:57:29 That's what he's implying, right? That's 100%. He's not even really implying it. Yeah. These lights are so bright in my eyes that I can't see too many people out there. But I can only see the black ones. I can't see any white ones, you see. That's how far I've come.
Starting point is 01:57:48 That's how far I've come. That's a long way, isn't it? He's ice. Care to comment? Wow. That's some quality stuff. Like, it didn't really logically make sense, though. No, like, if the lights were lower, would you...
Starting point is 01:58:10 I could only see the white ones. Right. Which is what it should have been like. But also, like, when he says, that's how far I've come, to me that implies, like, I used to be super racist. Right, I used to not see black people at all. And now I can only see black people. Yeah, kick them on the street if I saw them. Yeah, now he's like, now I only see black people at all. Now I can only see black people. Yeah, kick them on the street if I saw them.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Yeah, now he's like, now I only see black people. Really weird. Although the plane's 32 years old, I ordered new ones and I saved $1.7 billion from what Obama was willing to pay, I have to tell you. All right, so now he's doing like talking about military planes and how he negotiated it like a better deal. Okay. talking about military planes and how he negotiated it like a better deal. Okay. Although the plane's 32 years old, I ordered new ones and I saved $1.7 billion from what Obama was willing to pay, I have to tell you.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Black president, but I got $1.7 billion less. Would you rather have the black president or the white president who got $1.7 billion off the price? I think they want the white guy right now. I think they want the white guy. Is that not the most incredible thing
Starting point is 01:59:16 you've ever heard him say? Like just full on leans into you got a black guy and you have a white guy. Who do you want? You want the black guy or the white guy? The black guy who's getting ripped off left and right or me? I suppose if you funneled that $1.7 billion my way, then I might be pretty interested in that.
Starting point is 01:59:40 I don't know. Yeah, but outside of that. It's great stuff, man. It's really, really weird. Did we talk about this last week that it's going to be like 94 degrees tomorrow? No, we did today.
Starting point is 01:59:57 I got 93. The watch tells me it's 90 right now. I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah, tomorrow we are looking at record warmth. And then it's going to be cold and rainy on Thursday.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Oh, yeah, look at that. High of 53. High is 53? Yeah. This is why everyone is sick. Did I put away the firewood too soon? That's what I'm saying. This sucks. And we're going out Thursday, right?
Starting point is 02:00:30 Oh, yeah. That's bad. Cancel that. No. Police in Cedar Hill announced the arrest of three suspects that they believe were involved in an ATM robbery that led police on a chase in a stolen car. This was over at like Beltline and 67.
Starting point is 02:00:52 300K from an ATM. Oh, they didn't steal the ATM itself? No, I think they like busted open the ATM. Oh, okay. Did you know there was that much cash in an ATM? No. What would you have guessed, Gallery? 30 to 50.
Starting point is 02:01:07 30 to 50, I would say, is about right. Yeah, especially because people just don't use cash. Yeah, especially these days, for sure. Yeah. 300K? Did they get away? Well, they got away for a minute. Oh, you said they got them.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Okay. Didn't pay attention to that. I was trying to craft an ATM joke and I couldn't get one. How far did you get? Yeah, let's hear the workshop. That's probably about it. It's like, okay, ATM, I know what that means.
Starting point is 02:01:36 You know, I gotta be honest. There's gotta be something funny there. I don't really know that I do. You don't know what it means? I mean, I know what that acronym stands for, but I don't know what the act actually would entail. What? Well, you gotta click on one
Starting point is 02:01:52 of the bits, then. What do you mean? It's kind of a how-to. It tells you in the thing. I know, but... It's going from the A right to the M. Yeah, there's no, like, let's wipe this guy off first, or it's going from one to the M. Yeah, there's no like, let's wipe this guy off first. It's going from one to the other.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Okay. That's shocking to me. It's the old chocolate popsicle. Okay. It took a while. I found it. Look it up. I feel like there are a couple different ways you could go about it, though.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Like, A to M, meaning your M on my A, wouldn't that also be A to M? Does that make sense? Yeah, I'm with you. Could, but that's where you gotta click and see the instructional video and you're like, oh, okay, that's... Because you're not using... There's no letter
Starting point is 02:02:53 in an acronym for what is going from A to M. Right. P. Or D, I suppose. But it's really all the... The A and the M are in the same vessel. Okay. And you're going from just one portal to the other but there's not a lot
Starting point is 02:03:09 of description so I could see where you'd be confused on that, sure yeah, I mean, the thing that I'm referring to was always called full lessons are you talking about tossing salads? as Chris Rock would say? Sure.
Starting point is 02:03:26 That's called full lessons? That's what Grego told me. Oh, well. I've told that story before. Yeah, but I didn't know it was called full lessons. That's what he said. He's like, do you teach her full lessons? Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:40 I'm like, I don't know what that means. Did I tell that story? It means you're putting your M on her A. Correct, yeah. And you're right on in there. 18, 19. Not 19. The first day you met him.
Starting point is 02:03:55 It wasn't the first day. The story would be better if it were the first day, but it was definitely within the first couple months. It was definitely within the first couple months. This is your hero. The funniest part about it to me, if I think back on it, was when he told me this, he was standing there with his hands behind his back. And I don't know why that's such a funny pose for someone to... It's like a ho-hum.
Starting point is 02:04:20 Yeah. Like he was telling you about how to handle your crops. Oh, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, he was telling you about, like, how to, like, you know, handle your crops. Yeah. Oh, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like a sit-down son. No, it was not.
Starting point is 02:04:32 It was not. There was no, like, alcohol involved or anything like that. It wasn't like... And, yeah, his... Turn this off, Mom. His advice was, again, that if you are willing to do that, that a woman will never leave you alone. And you've gone on to say it worked. He wasn't that wrong, right?
Starting point is 02:04:56 There's your news. Yeah, who wouldn't? The Dumb Zone News. Like and subscribe. Oops, what did I do? Oh, man, I screwed this up. Don't you have to warn her or say, I got an idea?
Starting point is 02:05:20 You don't just do it. I would not warn. Yeah, that do it. I would not warn. Yeah, that's... I feel like... I think we've already hit two hours. Yeah. We'll try to make this as short as possible. Oops, that was abrupt.
Starting point is 02:05:48 It's Monday, February 26th. That's when we're recording live to tape from high atop my garage. With Mark Miller. 690 Mark Miller. On the couch. Have you muted him, Blake? You're not even allowing Mark Miller to... There you go.
Starting point is 02:06:07 In my hair? Now you're open. All right. Is that why you wanted him unmuted? I'm interested in what you have to say. I'm sorry that Blake is not. Sorry about Blake. That's okay.
Starting point is 02:06:19 Yeah. He's a wild card. Now's your time. On this day in 1933 It was reported that NFL owners Had voted to move the goal post 10 yards forward To the goal line
Starting point is 02:06:33 93? Excuse me, 33 So it was back where it Is now, but they said Let's move it to the goal line To encourage more field goals And reduce the number of ties. There are so many pesky ties. I've got to be honest with you.
Starting point is 02:06:51 I had no idea that it used to be back, move forward, and then move back. No. Really? Yeah, I had no idea. Back in 1933, they say this was in spite of arguments that this could result in more injuries. You would think. Yeah, well, scoring, though.
Starting point is 02:07:08 Yeah. Scoring up. And ties suck. On this day in 1998, a jury in Amarillo rejected an $11 million lawsuit brought by Texas Cattlemen, who blamed Oprah for a price fall after a segment on food safety that included a discussion about mad cow disease. Isn't this how Dr. Phil was
Starting point is 02:07:32 born? You tell me. Didn't she also cause the Hawaii wildfires? Wildfires? You're pretty close. But I believe that's when she first had Dr. Phil on to talk about whatever. Mad cow.
Starting point is 02:07:46 I think. I don't know. During this trial. I don't know either. And then several years later, his son made a terrible song that you made us listen to. Dude, I watched a... You've heard many people say you should watch it, and you should. The Mother God documentary on HBO.
Starting point is 02:08:10 It's very, very good. It's three parts, probably 45 minutes each. Something Rose? I can't remember. It's just called Mother God something, something. Search Mother God HBO. It's like a cult. was it's very very good and okay yeah this is not i was thinking of gypsy rose that's a different thing yeah i mean dead and dearest they ended up with uh mother god ended up on dr phil by the way that's why I thought of it right here. On this day in... Texas, huh?
Starting point is 02:08:47 2013. Was Mother God based in Texas? No. She was not here. Olsen was introduced to Love is One and Amy Carlson by a New Age scholar at the University of Texas at Austin. Oh, okay. Anyway, on this day in 2013... At the... In Egypt... Anyway, on this day in 2013, in Egypt, a hot air balloon burst into flames and plummeted 1,000 feet to earth, killing 19 tourists. I'm only bringing this up for you, who has refused to ever get in a hot air balloon.
Starting point is 02:09:25 I think I would do it if Blake did it. But outside of that, I'm out. Blake's not going to Egypt, though. That's true. What a conundrum. It's weird, too. We were talking last week about my affinity for
Starting point is 02:09:39 Mexico and how everyone's so cool. I do have a thought that every car, the tire's about to fall off of it. In Mexico? Like it's wobbly? Yeah, even if it's not, really. So like, hot air balloon,
Starting point is 02:09:56 probably out. Hot air balloon in Egypt, definitely out. It's just a bit of casual racism, Dan. I endorse that. Yes and... I know you do. Yes and...
Starting point is 02:10:10 What other racism do we have? On this day in 2018, President... A lot of them have tire shops here when they... Wow. There's the extra racism. Yes and, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:21 Yes and? Yeah, very good. There you go, yeah. I appreciate that. They actually should be well secured. Why don't you stop talking for a second and let him do the next thing? extra race. Yes and. Yes and? Yeah, very good. There you go. Yeah. I appreciate that. They actually should be well secured. Why don't you stop
Starting point is 02:10:27 talking for a second and let him do the next thing? Because you already like... No, they've all moved here. You already knocked one at about 431 feet. They've moved here and now that's why
Starting point is 02:10:36 the tires in Mexico are having such a problem. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's the big leagues up here. Yeah. Okay. On this day in 20... I like Okay. On this day in 20...
Starting point is 02:10:45 I like it. On this day in 2018, Donald Trump, president at the time, he was highly critical of the law enforcement response to a Florida school shooting. So he has a room full of governors
Starting point is 02:11:01 at the White House and he told them if he had been there, he would have rushed in unarmed. Which is awesome. It is awesome. It's not quite Marky Mark. The zone flooded.
Starting point is 02:11:12 It's not quite Marky Mark. But the flooding of the zone, I just love it. You can't keep track of all this stuff. The Mark Wahlberg one has got to be the take of the cake, though. Yes. When he said, I think it was in particular about Flight United 93, where he said that if he would have been on there, there's no way it would have gone down.
Starting point is 02:11:39 And he believes that. And on this day in 2009, Tom Brady married Gisele Bundchen, who kind of looks like a dude. Kind of looks like a dude. They're not together anymore, right? No. No. He's married to his son, I believe. That's right. No, they just kiss.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Is she remarried? No. She's not remarried. I think we would have heard about that. Anybody? As a fighter? Yeah, you gotta be. That's pretty much the only way think we would have heard about that. Anybody? That was a fighter? Yeah, you got to be. That's pretty much the only way. The only way that you could marry her now is if you kick ass or have a billion dollars.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Wouldn't you say? Yeah, that's... That's tough. I would turn down the date with her just knowing that I can't follow him. Sure. I'm sure you would. Let's see. Plus, can you imagine just the beating?
Starting point is 02:12:28 It'd be just going out with her. Oh, my God. Speaking of all that weird stuff. Today's birthdays include... That's probably not what you're talking about. Mark Folliwell and Doug Anderson. Oh, wow. They used to do a show together on the ticket.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Wow. The great Mark Folliwell. Roe Blackman. He's 65. He looks very good for 65. Ham. Fun ham moment once upon a time. We asked him to name one Maverick who played before Dirk.
Starting point is 02:13:02 And he said, Rolando Blackman. Okay. He got it right. That he said, Rolando Blackman. Okay. He got it right. That is his name. Sort of, yeah. Does Nicky Haley keep texting you guys too? Yes. What is that about? How do I not get those? I've unsubbed like five times
Starting point is 02:13:18 and I still just get pounded. Do they look like the Bobby Althoff picture you sent me? Can you guys let Bobby Althoff go? Like, what is this? She's very attractive. What is happening here? Good-looking little lady.
Starting point is 02:13:33 Jenny Thompson, 51. Will you ask your daughters about her? Recently divorced. About her? Bobby Althoff is divorced? Yeah. She's, like, 21. How is she married?
Starting point is 02:13:41 No, she's got a couple kids. I think she's late 20s. Interesting. Okay, see? She's got a couple kids. I think she's late 20s. Interesting. Okay, see? Tune changed. Erica Badu. Badu? 53.
Starting point is 02:13:54 Do you remember... Yeah. Do you remember... I think it was probably around the anniversary, but it was definitely whenever we were working at Victory when she got naked in downtown. Do you guys remember that?
Starting point is 02:14:12 Yeah. That was awesome. Protesting something. She was filming a music video. Oh, I thought it was a protest. No, okay. I think it was to look like JFK. She was raising awareness for herself.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Yeah, that's right. That's what we're awareness for herself. Yeah, that's right. That's what we're trying to do. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. Beautiful lady. Where was I? Michael Bolton. 71. He sucks.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Is he... What's your favorite Michael Bolton song, Blake? What is a Michael Bolton song? That's not the line. If I ask you, Jake, what would you tell me? Roundball Rock? Who am I confusing him with? I'm looking for...
Starting point is 02:15:00 I celebrate his entire catalog. I celebrate his entire catalog. There you go. Okay. I flubbed that. There you go. Okay. I flubbed that. Who does Round Ball Rock? You've never seen Office Space, have you? No.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Oh. Yeah, you get mad at me for that one. Who's filmed in Dallas, bro? Los Angeles. Oh, let me... You get to Washington, you're like, that's a tollway! Who does Round Ball Rock?
Starting point is 02:15:22 It's really fun. Dan, answer me. I have no idea what that is. B-b-b-b-b-basketball, gimme, gimme, gimme the basketball. I'm gonna dunk it. Oh, I think you should leave. Tim. No, no, no, but who is the actual guy who wrote NBA on NBC?
Starting point is 02:15:38 Oh, I don't know. John Tesh. John Tesh, thank you. All right, sorry. I didn't know what you were going for. I feel like John Tesh and Michael Bolton are kind of in the same bucket. You're not sure which one's which. Right.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Tim Kaine is 66. Hillary's running mate. You didn't think I'd get that, did you? I knew you'd get it, but when I looked at this this morning and that was the note, I was like, huh. He had a chance at being the second gentleman. Chuck Wepner is 85. Chuck Wepner. Do tell.
Starting point is 02:16:14 In 1975, Muhammad Ali defeated Chuck Wepner. He was a boxer. With a TKO, I believe 19 seconds left in the fight. So in the 15th round, Muhammad Ali beats Wepner. He was a journeyman known as the Bayon Bleeder. Bayon? I don't know how to pronounce that. Spell it for me.
Starting point is 02:16:36 B-A-Y-O-N-N-E. Bayon. Bayon. Bayon Bleeder. It was French. Like he was a guy who would box occasionally, but he had a job selling liquor during the day. Jeez.
Starting point is 02:16:49 And he's fighting Ali? This fight inspired Sylvester Stallone to make the Rocky story. And in fact, poor Chuck Wepner was stolen from again because I believe it was at Rocky III. Chuck Wepner later would go on to do an exhibition with Andre the Giant where Andre the Giant threw him out of the ring physically. Yeah, and then metaphorically. Anyway, Stallone stole that too I don't know if he ever
Starting point is 02:17:28 Gave the guy any money But he's 85 today Book him Blake And born on this day Not alive We have John Harvey Kellogg Invented cornflakes Spare
Starting point is 02:17:38 And then Dead on this day Still dead We have Bill Hicks Were you a fan? Huge dude The comedian Bill Hicks You Were you a fan? Huge, dude. The comedian Bill Hicks? You know, the one thing about him, though, that's really weird, and you know what?
Starting point is 02:17:50 I'm kind of like over the point of trying to get Blake to watch anything that I think is funny. Bill Hicks, a lot younger than you think when he died. Really? Like, he was like 34. How did he die? Cancer, yeah. But you watch him and you're like, he was like 34. How did he die? Cancer, yeah. But you watch him and you're like, this guy's 50. He's wise, but he's like very, very young.
Starting point is 02:18:14 Austin. I hate young guys who are so smart. Because then I'm like, oh man. Most of them die, though. Okay, well that's good. Yeah. And that was today in history we want to offer mark miller the opportunity for closing remarks am i allowed to do this oh yeah
Starting point is 02:18:36 what do you got it's your stuff what's that mean you'll see well first thing is I got him a couple of cans of snakes because he likes to shoot snakes into each other. They don't actually come out of the can. I couldn't find any like that. So there you go, Dan. Like the springing can of snakes. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:18:56 You were wanting to shoot into each other for a while. So I now have two cans. You can shoot one into the other. Yes, that is awesome. A great visual, yeah. There you go. And now here's a the other. Yes, that is a great visual. There you go. And now here's a t-shirt. Send that over to him.
Starting point is 02:19:10 A Potbelly Sandwich Shop t-shirt. Okay, who doesn't want to rep Potbelly? I mean, the only thing is there's only one of them. Oh, don't worry. We got here. That's probably Blake's dream shirt. Dude. What's on there?
Starting point is 02:19:25 It's the movie poster for Pearl Harbor. A box office flop. No, it wasn't. No, we were wrong about that. There was a problem with Jake's. I actually wanted to get him the Eat the W t-shirt, and I got an email late last week that said, sorry, we canceled your order. The Jameis Winston t-shirt. Yeah got an email late last week that said sorry we canceled your order the Jameis
Starting point is 02:19:47 Winston yeah where he eats the W has one anyway and it bounced back after watching him the other day I got him a good old oh fantastic vacation yeah figured he'd love that I love Canada shirt oh you can wear it next time what could be? Can you imagine the high fives you're going to get? I can't. A couple other things. That's a pot belly. You buy one, get one. You can have a few lunches.
Starting point is 02:20:11 All right. This is for the security crew. Now, shouldn't you get one? That's why I was asking about For Fig Cat. Do we know the cat's name? Binks. Binks. Binks.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Okay. I was going to call it Blackberry or whatever. Cranberry. Cranberry, thank you. That's a security gift card for these guys. This guy's been taking care of me. We went to, my wife went to three or four Papa John's, and nobody has gift cards, so you have, that's for Papa John's.
Starting point is 02:20:42 Wow, exclusive. That's for Pizza Friday? Pizza Friday. Wow. Just so exclusive. Just say a prayer to me before you eat it, if for Papa John's. Wow. Exclusive. That's for Pizza Friday? Pizza Friday. Wow. Just so exclusive. Just say a prayer to me before you eat it, if you don't mind. Now, Mark, you did dole out $6.90 to be here.
Starting point is 02:20:54 Right? Yeah, somebody did. Yeah, somebody did. It was my wife. This was a gift? Yes, for Christmas. This was a Christmas gift. Oh, okay. Now, in my head, I've been thinking that the reason to do this is because we all know 69 is cool, right? Pretty great. Like it's a good experience.
Starting point is 02:21:11 Weekly. You get a little 69. Weekly. I think it's way too good of an experience to do weekly. I think this has to be held for anniversaries and bar mitzvahs. It's held for a lot longer than that. But what I'm thinking is... What about leap year?
Starting point is 02:21:26 So 690 is what? 10 times 69? Right. Do you feel the experience you've... The euphoria you felt today is 10 times that of the general 69? At this point, I'd rather come here. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:21:41 Whoa. There you go. Because it's hard to come there. Okay. Am I right? Yeah. Not really. All right. Whoa. Whoa. There you go. Because it's hard to come there. Okay. Am I right? Yeah. Not really. Alright. Thanks everybody. Adios, mofo. What does Blake do?
Starting point is 02:21:54 What does Blake do? What does Blake do? What does Blake do? What would you say? What does Blake do? What would you say? What does Blake do? You do here. Push them together. What does Blake do?
Starting point is 02:22:13 What would you say? What does Blake do? You do here. Push them together. What does Blake do? What would you say? What does Blake do? You would you say? What does Blake do? You do here.
Starting point is 02:22:29 What does Blake do? What would you say? You do here. What does Blake do? What would you say? What does Blake do? What does Blake do? You do here.
Starting point is 02:22:46 What does Blake do?

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