The Dumb Zone FREE - The Dumb Zone 4-11-24

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

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Hello. This is an open to our open today. Open before the open. It's Dan and Jake, your friends. That's right. With a big announcement. All right, let's speed it up. We got a movie. We've been talking about it on 420, Saturday 420. Go to drafthouse.com search Pineapple.

You could search Pineapple Express, but I would just start typing in Pineapple. I don't like to put in all the... Anyway. You don't like to waste time. The link will be there. So at 420, on 420, we will do a live stream broadcast

from the Alamo in Las Colinas and then show a movie that I haven't seen. Pineapple Express. Yes. It is one of the few good weed movies. IMHO. So 420. We'll have lots of fun. Do a little broadcast for like an hour or so, right?

Some giveaways. Do some bits. Eat some cheese sticks. Tip your waitresses. And you can buy tickets now get popcorn with no butter at drafthouse.com go there and then search pineapple don't search dumb zone i tried doing that or upside upside down pineapple that also so to a different. In today's podcast, we will be referencing this, but we just learned after we were done recording that we actually have the tickets on sale.

So go there now. Come join us. Hey, Twitter world. This is yours truly. Now, coming soon to Twitter, you'll get to read all my thoughts and opinions on just about everything. Now, there's a lot of fake OJ accounts out there. So this one, at the real OJ32, is the only official one.

So this should be a lot of fun. I got a little getting even to do. So God bless. Take care. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I never listen. you know you could generally shrug it off if somebody says i got some even getting even to do you're like all right whatever yeah tough guy yeah but not with the juice. Protect your neck.

RIP OJ. Rest in power. He can finally be reunited with Nicole. April 11th, 2024. When we learned OJ Simpson got sick and passed away. And he pulled a Norm MacDonald. You never really knew he had cancer. All of a sudden, he's just here.

He's entertaining us day to day. So I did find out this morning, he or his family announced prostate cancer in February, but that's pretty quick. Okay. And he was definitely posting through it. Like, he's giving you a... I'm just saying. Prostate is one of those cancers, too,

that you think, oh, okay. We can deal with that in this day and age. You certainly usually get it checked every year if you're an old, right? Yeah, I guess. I didn't know I was supposed to be old. I just keep going in every quarter starting at age 35. What's up, man?

Hey. It's me again. Just waiting at the knocking in there at 759. They're all like, okay, it's him. Take your money. Yeah, I don't know. i guess i've heard that before i certainly have had family members that have had it and uh done pretty well with it for an amount of time that seems better than like heart cancer

didn't uh nelly have that maybe a long time ago don nelson that does sound right yeah because then he, you know, for a little while after that he was on a crusade to tell people to get theirs checked. Yeah, you don't really have

a cool challenge for prostate cancer, do you? What would that be? No. Nobody wears brown for a month. No.

You think it would take off if you and I tried some sort of prostate cancer awareness thing that involved your butt? I think it might. Nobody wants to help men. That's why.

That's the thing. Breast cancer gets the whole NFL season. Because breasts are popular. Yeah, well, you need us to us women and men love that exactly but but no one loves the butt well well like the breast cancer is like the eclipse it brings everyone together that's true we're all like no save those but with the inside of your butthole. It's like, whatever.

Yeah, that's a nasty place anyway. Nasty. The USFL or something should try that. Or whatever it's called now, the UFL. Just have Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. I'm in. Come up with some sort of weird... That'll get me to a game. Yeah, for sure.

Anyway, we had a big run sheet for today's program. We still do, but we got to cover this OJ thing. There's so much audio. Also, on today's program, we have an in-studio guest, in-den guest,

so we are broadcasting today live, not from our new studio, brought from the old, comfortable confines of high atop my garage. Jake now lives really close to me. Are you adjusting your time on leaving? Yeah, for sure. Is it great?

This part is definitely great. Needing to do anything else where I'm normally used to doing it, like take the kids to school, either one of them, you got to add 12 minutes. Okay. But being- This is pretty sweet though. Yeah. 10 more minutes of love.

Maybe it is his. Because everybody's been bitching about this and we're all trying to figure out which headset it is. Do you guys hear something? What's up? That I hear. Oh God. How about just don't move it?

Yeah, just don't move it at all. Okay. And you'll be fine. Just stay with us. Yeah. How about just don't move it? Yeah, just don't move it at all. Okay. And you'll be fine. Just stay with us. Yeah. I'm just going to mute myself. Just internally mute and then unmute whenever you feel the need to speak. What about me breathing?

It's fine. Or just keep it like here. It's fine. Keep it here. Then you can be like, you're kind of in the background. You're a video guy, but you're in the background. I always forget to check the comments, so I didn't know that people were pissed off. And then you won't hear the breathing.

I got ripped apart. But we'll hear your hilarious laughter. Okay. You know, when we do stuff. That'll work. It's funny. I didn't know about the mic. If you want to introduce our guest, I'll tell you what I know about the last one. He is a 690 sit-in today.

He is Kenton Sassman. That's his last name. The Sassman. Do people ever call you Sasquatch? No, no. Really? Yeah. Or do people think that you are into the behind?

You are a fan of the ladies behind. I'm the Sass Man. Yeah. Kramer. Drop off the S and be the S-Man. Yeah. He's got a long way to go to generate what I understand is as much controversy as Tuesday's guest did, which I was wholly unaware of because, again, it's not that I don't care. I just forget to

check comments, and Reddit has fallen off of my consumption plate entirely. I've never looked at our Reddit, and it's not because I don't care. Really? I just never looked at it, and I haven't looked at Ticket Reddit since we left. We're very popular on our Reddit. You should look at it. Yeah, it seems like it works out if you're paying for something generally. People are supportive. But I had a listener text me. So you're not supportive if this is free.

Yeah, exactly. All right. I had a listener text me. Now, this listener is very dramatic. And he's going to hear this and know that i already he knows i think he's very dramatic he's like have you guys ever had a guest as controversial as tuesday bitcoin guy i'm like i don't know nobody said anything to me about it other than one guy was like hey he mixed up hamas and al-qaeda which i knew at the time but i didn't really feel like

i kind of lightly tried to correct him but I'm like no I haven't seen one thing about it he's like dude let's get ripped apart and I'm like really he's like yeah and he's responding to everyone on reddit I'm like Chris's Chris with a k Chris with a k this guy I thought he was great I thought it was entertaining yeah he had a lot going on yeah apparently he had some things he messed up or something

I don't know but yeah apparently it was a big topic so much so that he got on there and started defending himself God

and saying like I got that part wrong but you know I got this part right type thing that's alright that's common common for

if you are not used to it. Not used to having everything you say questioned. Yeah. But when you get things wrong, see, the thing is with that guy too, he's a really smart guy and he's probably usually right. But when you get things wrong as much as we do, you learn to just go, okay, well, I can fight it.

It's on the marquee, bud. Yeah. Look at the name. What did you expect? It's not called the Aerospace Engineering Zone. Kenton Sassman looks like somebody else who's probably more impressive than us in life. Your birthday was April 8th, so that's why we didn't have you up at that point, right?

Right. Yeah, I was born in 62. What a day that would have been to have the clips on your birthday. Yeah. It was a day. Probably pretty kick-ass. Do you see that proposals were big?

Really? I did see a wedding. During it? Yeah. During the four minutes? I did see a video. During it? Yeah. During the four minutes? I did see a video of a wedding, yeah. Okay. And everybody, you know, they're in their chairs outside with their attire on and eclipse glasses. That's cool. Yeah. Memorable.

Sorry, Kenton Sassman. Oh. You were talking about your birthday, telling us what you did. Oh, well. Got woken up. Well, I'm 62 now, so. Okay. Born in. Well, I'm 62 now. Okay. So, no. Born in 62.

Now I'm 62 on the eclipse day. He knows about the prostate. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Once a year. Yeah. Unless you're like Jake. It says here, so in the email I got from Kenton Sassman about joining us, a retired air traffic controller.

Whoa. Yeah. Nice. How many years? Did you get your job when Reagan fired them all? Not right then. I was still in college. Okay.

But there was so many that left that that's how I... Were you thinking about, oh, man, this could really help me out? No. I went and worked for Staken Elm for a few years. Okay. And then I applied to be air traffic controller, and it took them like two and a half years to hire me. And then I got on.

So I was for 20, almost a little over 27 years. Where do you live? Well, that's an easy question to ask. But I live in Little Elm, but it says Aubrey on my driver's license in the post office. Yeah, you could just say Little Elm. We won't care. You could really have said anything. No, but I do know people like that.

Where my grandparents lived, it was unincorporated or something. They didn't have a city. So if you would ask what city they live in, they're like, we don't. We live in a county. But I used to live right across the canal from the Cowboys

and Valley Ranch. Okay. When you guys were interviewing Drew Bledsoe, I'd say, hey, they're right across. You knew where the White House was?

And the property value skyrocketed. That bordered my fence on my backyard. The White House did? Yeah. Awesome. That's pretty sweet. Yeah. And That bordered my fence in my backyard. The White House did? Yeah. Awesome. That's pretty sweet.

Yeah. We'd have parties, and people would go to the backyard and point at that house, going, that's the White House. You have any thoughts on Sully? Yeah, he definitely did the, you know, of course, everybody knows he did the right thing, but there's so many people that would have spent all their time, all their time going through the manual, figuring out what to do, trying to make it to the airport, and probably wouldn't have made it. So you're saying Sully, split second.

Thought outside the box. Like, okay, let's go for the river. He deserves the flowers. He deserves the movie. Yeah. Okay, you're Sully. A lot of pilots question that. They're like, yeah, I would have done that too're like yeah that's what most of us would have done it's just what we've been told but you're a pro well i'm not a

pilot but i mean definitely a lot of times people like to go down you know we gotta check this we gotta do this and by the time you know he was losing power you know i had no power so so i think you did the right thing got Got taken out by a bird, but... Okay. And I do like... Are you keeping notes for closing remarks?

What are you doing here? No, I already have the notes for closing remarks because I have a really controversial question for Jake. Oh, no. Oh, okay.

I thought I already answered the question. But you do have a notepad in front of you. Yes. Which speaks to me. I write notes all the time. But I also thought October was

cancer where the whole, all cancers were. All cancers. All cancer matters. It's just breast. Just breast took the The breast is the best one. The one that we all want to get going first. I'm more

I'm about the children. So childhood cancer is really more what i focus on dan because force field if they die as children they can never develop breasts okay uh hurts your force field you should have stopped earlier but like you had me for like a moment um also you know in in kenton sass man's uh email there's a lot of things that you said you could comment on like the robstown cotton pickers yes isn't that like a high school team and yeah and and obviously just just west of corpus christi okay and my mother-in-law uh that's where she went to high school okay and so And so she was all... Controversial name. No, down there, they're proud of it.

Yeah. Yeah, they don't want to change. But she's also, when I was cleaning out her house, where I got that big red bag that I gave you one time to give to Corby and Danny. Oh, the grandma's... The source of the grandma's bag. Yeah.

Just fill it up with water and step on it. That was the best. Screw it all. You also claim to have a comment on back-end parking. Yes. There's a couple comments on that. The reason it's kind of bad for your car is you should usually start your engine and let the oil circulate. Put it on your seatbelt and everything.

But as far as back-end parking, I think I called up the day in 2021 when it was cold and snowed and freezed. And Jake, I missed hearing your comment, but I was like, what a day for back-end parking. And what happened? My car slid down a driveway. Is that what we're talking about yeah probably is that on video yeah

it's on video yeah it's one of our first videos on our YouTube whoa whoa whoa yeah it's a good one I almost lost my

car in my friend's neighbor's house now I'd like to tease ahead though to near the end of the show because you will

give your closing remarks and we'd like to give plenty of real estate for that but if you want to stay tuned one of the because you will give your closing remarks and we like to give plenty of real estate for that. But if you want to stay tuned, one of the copy points of things you said you would like to talk about

because they include cell phones on planes, Sully. Jeez, we can't, I mean. No, no, no. But the one I definitely, we will get to, it says here, copy point six on things that he could comment on if we asked him to. Having a girlfriend who squirts.

So that'll be in the end of the program. That'd be a good ender. Usually is. Stay tuned for that or in this medium, I suppose you could go ahead and just fast forward. Want to see what Kenton Sassman has to say about that. Let's make it the ender. Okay. Like that's on the same list as Sully.

And back in parking. That's a wide range of topics that we like to do here. We like to cover wide ranges of topics. I would like to – I wish I could get an audio recording of the inside of an air traffic control tower. I'm sure you can get that on YouTube or something. I've heard it's just pure insanity. Well, I only worked in the tower.

I worked in the radar room and I started in Longview and you did radar and the tower and then El Paso the same, New Orleans the same, and then you came up to Dallas-Fort Worth area, and you have to do one or the other. So I was in the TRACON, which is approach and departure.

Is it wild? Yeah, it's kind of like the last two minutes of a football game. Yeah, the whole time? No, not the whole time. And then all the planes come, and you go on break, and you get your Coke and use the restroom, and then they pay you back, and then it's like the last two minutes of a football game again for half an hour to an hour seems very hectic

yeah but they also have the lingo and you know it's it's when you when you you get i'm supposed it's like well you guys when you got with your radio guys you have your own language to talk to when you when you go out drinking or whatever so and nobody else understands what you're talking about uh you ever see tim and eric bedtime stories no okay you know are you familiar with tim and eric and their existence okay well then it's probably gonna be really lost on you but search that there's a funny uh it's kind of like a eight episode little season tim and eric's bedtime stories they have one with will forte the snl guy that played mcgruber It's kind of like an eight-episode little season. Tim and Eric's Bedtime Stories. They have one with Will Forte, the SNL guy that played MacGruber, and he's an air traffic controller.

So how about that? Okay. Who thought I'd give you that little nugget today? Wow. Yeah, that's the way everyone feels right now. Wow. Pretty underwhelmed. You want to do OJ talk first, or you want to... Oh, I wanted to take just a note or a moment to say,

only a madman would bet on Tiger Woods to win the Masters. Am I right? Oh, my gosh. Was it still the crazy odds that we were discussing Tuesday? There's a chance that Monday I'm going to walk in here with $9,400. He's plus $9,400. Jeez. You know, I saw he was...

So we put a honey. I don't know what So we put a honey. I don't know what he's supposed to say. Okay. In his press availability yesterday or Tuesday afternoon, he said, I think if it goes right, I got one more in me. There we go. You know, before he said like, look, I'm just happy to be here type thing.

I want to compete, but I'm not quite where I want to be. Yeah. But the thing is, because of my propensity to bet on Tiger, I didn't bet on him when he actually did win the Masters a few years ago. And I thought, what if he won the Masters and then you came in Monday and were, like, excited, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot. Well, do you know what time he tees off? Like, are you even... No.

I like good odds, though. I like value. Kind of like Luca, plus 810 for MVP on the day that I made this wager. So old Dan might walk away with $4,000 on that one. You put 500500 in? Maybe. Dang, dude. It's my big account that I'm really doing well in.

You crushed it on Ohio U. It's all free money. I think I started with $500 and I'm up to $4,000. I'm good enough but not good enough for them to kick me off the platform just yet. Right. Jokic last night might have nailed in the coffin, didn't he? Oh, what'd he do? Like 41-11-7 or something.

Luka does that every night. I know, but... He had 29-9-9. He's trying to catch up, though. But he's only... To me, he's only trying to catch up in people's minds. Which is what makes the whole thing so effing annoying. I'll say it again. They've been the most injured team in the

Western Conference. Nobody had them in the top eight. And now they've won 50 games and will probably win 51 depending on who they play. Who they actually put on the floor in the last couple games. He's averaging 34-10-9. The first time that's ever been done before.

And he's playing defense. But hey, Nuggets have a better record. Do people know what the term value means? That is value. He is more valuable than anyone else. Preseason projections for the rank in the entire NBA, so not in the West. ISTAC put this out there today.

ESPN had him at 17th best team in the league. So all these projections are bubble. Like you might be in the playoffs, you might be in the play-in. The Athletic, 18. NBA.com, 17. Sports Illustrated, 16. The Ringer, 17. Hoops Hype, 16. NBC, 18. NBA.com, 17. Sports Illustrated, 16. The Ringer, 17. Hoops Hype, 16.

NBC, 15. The point is they're way exceeding what they were projected to exceed. Yeah. Check the Nuggets ones. Oh, I'm sure one, two. Yeah, and they're right up there. So, you know, I guess that's not a statistic in the box score or anything. It's crazy.

Looking at statistics in the box score, it feels like that holds up as well. But it is a statistic that people are using in the MVP because they're saying that the Mavericks are still the fifth seed. Shouldn't you look at how much better they are than you thought they would be because of him? And you got people like Stephen A voting who don't even know what players on what team anymore.

Does he really have a vote? Yeah. Yeah. Like he went on a rant the other day about how well some Knicks player is playing. His team, and that guy was traded two months ago. It should be guys

who are that's their whole job is the NBA. It's not. Because guys that do national stuff you know just enough to be dangerous.

You know these the screamers on TV certainly don't have you know the inside knowledge of any team. Like J.J. Redick? Give him a vote. Yeah.

That's all he does. He doesn't scream about football. Yeah. Or about Shohei or something. It's maddening. And it doesn't really matter because Luka's already got a supermax, but the thing people forget is these awards that guys win or don't win

or All-NBA or First Team Defense, that determines what level of contract they can get. Klay Thompson lost out on like $100 million because he missed second-team All-NBA by like three votes. Yeah. How do you think his relationship with the media went after that? That's a really weird way to determine contracts.

It's super weird. I mean, it's, you know, it's the Pro Bowl incentives and stuff like that are weird, but in the NBA, it's just so much more money. Anyways. Top three in points, assists. Most, if you add points, rebounds, and assists per game, that's the most. Since the merger, I believe. Which is like the 70s?

The 80s? No, no. Like the early 70s, late 60s, right? Oh, really? Yeah. I could be wrong, but. Yeah, first and 35 point... Yeah, 76.

A ton of statistical arguments for Luka. And not to say Jokic is not deserving. He is, but it kind of also seems if you've won the last couple, you usually get that groundswell. You know what I hate, even though I know it's true, is the, well, this means they'll set it up for next year, even if he doesn't have as good of a year. Well, no, he's going to have to exceed this year. No, that's not always how it happens.

Really? Yeah. Like, you'll, you prove you can do it, and people are like, all right, you finished second, and then the next year it feels like you should have won that one. What does that do for my bet? It doesn't help you at all. I'm sorry. Because I'm not going to get good value next year.

You got Tiger. I do got Tiger. That'll cover everything. You've got Tiger. Yeah, we didn't even talk juice, though. I don't know. Well, just one more Mavs thing, though. They're officially the Clippers of the team, right?

Yeah. It's now locked in? I believe that's the case. So if they... I think the Clippers are the team, right? Yeah. It's now locked in? I believe that's the case. So if they... I think the Clippers... If the Clippers lose two, the Mavs win two, the Mavs can get the four seed.

Correct. Otherwise, it's locked in. We rest guys, right? You kind of got to right now. You don't want one more home game maybe? What are the chances the Clippers are going to lose too? Fairly low. Maybe you play one more.

And then rest that final game? Yeah. I just feel like they've been... The Clippers have lost their last two games. They've been humming – Or at least lost last night. Humming along so well that – I don't know.

I don't want anything to – Obviously, you'd like to continue. What are they, 16-2 in their last 18, the Mavs? Yeah, another 21-7 since the trade, which is really when you've got to look at what kind of team they are going into the playoffs since the trade. So I'm tired. It's like we said the other day.

I'm really tired of the Clippers, but also it's kind of cool to slay the dragon if you're going to beat anybody. Yeah. Did you see the box score from the last time they played in the playoffs, their last game? Oh, was it game seven? The last time the Clippers and Mavs did? Yeah.

Yeah. I was looking at that this morning. I know. Besides. I know it quite well. Luka, we only have three players who were on that team. Powell. Uh-huh.

Maxie. And Hardaway. Yeah. That, I believe, was the game where Jalen Brunson played 11 minutes. And Powell played five and Maxie played nine. So it's not, I mean, this is nothing like, Hardaway started. Yeah. Brunson was not starting and was not even playing off the bench. Right. And I think that's kind of when they made up their mind that they weren't going to – Yeah, he had two points. Extend him that summer.

Yeah, imagine that. A guy who now is an all-star and pours in 35 a night, played 11 minutes and scored two points in a game seven of a Mavericks playoff game three years ago. Luka had 46. He was bonkers that series. Is that the time, too, when they were putting Porzingis just go stand in the corner? Yeah. And he was kind of pouting about it and not giving his all, he would later admit.

And then they started Boban. Yeah, Boban started that night. Yeah, it was a wild series. Hadn't Boban started the game before and it they started Boban. Yeah. Boban started that night. Yeah. It was a wild series. Hadn't Boban started the game before and it went well right? Yeah. We've talked to

Bob Fee about that. That was like Carlisle's throw it against the wall. Yeah. I'm excited. Oh I'm very excited. Okay.

I'll do this now if you want. When's it go? Is it set yet? I know it's like, I think it's the weekend after this one. I think. Not 420, is it? I think it is.

Yeah, I think it's that weekend. Is it? Man. So I looked this up. I hope it's not 420 at 420 because... I think it is. I think it is. We're still waiting for confirmation on the ticket sales.

Let me take a look at the email. Yeah, they start on 420. Because, you know, they've got to do the play-in. We're going to be doing an event, a live stream on 420, at 420, at the Alamo in Las Colinas. So right now I don't think they have tickets up yet, but hopefully by tomorrow we'll have that up and flying. Maybe even by the end of this program when Kenton is telling us about squirters,

you'll be able to fire up the Alamo Drafthouse app and search dumb zone and go see Pineapple Express with us. So I tried to look at this, and it's kind of weird because sports seasons, some of them are contained in one year and some of them overlap. I guess all of them other than baseball overlap, but the NFL is just kind of barely. Like you don't call the NFL season that just happened the 23-24 season.

Right. You just say the 23 season, even though it's the Super Bowl that occurred in 2024. So this is a bit wonky of trying to figure this out, but I wanted to look at years where, okay, if the baseball, hockey, and, okay, so if the hockey and basketball teams start in one year, the season that they started, like let's say they started in whatever it is, October, the football season that started that same year, and then the baseball season that started that same year.

So basically the time when they all start at the same time. Baseball, April, football, September, hockey, basketball, October. Baseball, April. Football, September. Hockey, basketball, October. Right now, the four teams would have 202 regular season wins. And the only other year since the Stars got here where I could find where they had more was 06-07. And it's largely because the Mavericks won 67 games.

But the Rangers won 80, the Cowboys won 9, and the Stars won 50. Is 06-07 when they went to the finals? Or no, there's the year after then. They went to the finals in 06. Yeah, correct. So the 06-07... This is the Dirk MVP 1-8 matchup. And they got bounced by Golden State. Yeah.

So, the Rangers added 10 wins to this year, obviously. That year they had 80. This year they have 90. The Cowboys added 3, you know, 9 to 12.

Stars had 50 both years. It's just that the Mavericks had 50 this year. They had 67 then. But, Wow. I went back

to the beginning. I mean, it's rough math because I'm kind of doing some matching up of seasons here. And, you have to factor in the fact that this year the Rangers won the freaking World Series.

Yeah. And in that year, the Stars, I'm pretty sure, got bounced in the first round. And the Mavericks had one of the hugest collapses in NBA history. So it's hard to call that year better. Do you count all the playoff wins or no? I haven't yet. Like from the Rangers? No.

The Cowboys? Well, they didn't make the playoffs the 9-7 year in 06-07. I was joking about this year. Well, they got – no, they didn't. They didn't? It was last year, yeah. They lost. So I guess my point is I guess it's really actually been

like the most successful sports time in like 20 years. Are we enjoying it enough? I mean, I think it's about to be like the most fun couple months we've had in a long time. If you get the one seed in hockey or the two seed. Yeah, they're raising that bar.

And you have a five seed, you know, and you're playing at this level in the NBA and the Rangers will, despite the fact that Jose Leclerc still exists, will at least probably keep it interesting again. Jose Leclerc is amazing for just the World Series and playoff run he had, or World Series run for sure. Yeah, you know my theory on him.

No. I noticed last year during the playoffs, and I've noticed it again during the regular season, every time he's on the mound, he looks like he would rather be anywhere else in the world. I mean, he's not an intimidating looking closer. He just looks like up to the left field, like foul pole-ish type thing.

He looks back and he just has darting eyes, and he's just like, fuck, man, they're going to make me do this probably again. I'm going to have to throw him another pitch. He always looks like he wants out of the game. And sometimes it happens pretty quickly by ending it. But they'll be fine. It is only April 11th.

Yeah. And yeah, Boach is at the helm. He'll figure this thing out, right? I have a lot more sports, but if you want to do OJ, we can. Want to slide into OJ? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I don't know exactly what we have planned. Yeah, we could play some audio.

what we have planned. Yeah, we could play some audio. I mean, all I did was, so I searched, you know, OJ in my computer. Uh-huh. And there is no lack of... I did the same thing, and I'm like, where do we even begin?

Obviously, the thing that tickles us here most, I could play at least this. Boy, wasn't this in a documentary about OJ2, the time that he... So he's found not guilty. He... Is his time with the sports princess on a cable access show

before he actually went to prison? Yeah. Or after? Definitely before. Okay. Because he actually went to prison later for robbing a sports memorabilia guy of stuff that he said this guy stole from him. And I think they might have charged him with kidnapping, too, because that was the first

time I learned how loosey-goosey they are on the kidnapping rules when all they really did was they went to the guy's room and held him there. Yeah, with a gun. Yeah, but I mean, that doesn't feel like a kidnapping to me. No. Maybe it's false imprisonment, but— There wasn't a lot of groundswell for, hey, OJ's getting railroaded here. No, everybody felt like they needed their bowl of blood

but if I come over there and tackle you and pin you to the ground for five minutes I don't want anybody in here calling saying I kidnapped you. Well they will. I'll make sure they

corroborate my story. That's a thing. So yeah. So okay. So somehow he ends up on now is this part of his... He wrote a book called...

If I Did It, right? If I Did It. Was he promoting that book at the time? Like, they're trying to... Rehab his image a little bit. Yeah, OJ. But he just kept being like, no, no, what if I jump out with a knife

in this interview as pretend? But the sports princess, who was a broadcaster who started here in Dallas, from what I understand, like, I think she used to do Rangers postgame with, like, buzz. I seem to have memories of driving home from a Ranger game, hearing the sports princess and buzz, and she would have, like, there would be a poll question every night. And one that stands out to me as I'm driving home and she's like,

all right, we continue going to the phones. Remember, tonight's poll question is, if you could pick, would you rather be a player, a manager, or a general manager in baseball? Okay. 2-1-4, whatever whatever or 817 and then uh every caller would be like yeah so uh and because they'd have their comments about whatever and then she'd be like oh don't forget the poll quit like oh okay um yeah i don't know player i mean i everyone every person said player like it seems pretty sweet if you're one of the players.

Like, you know, I'm really good at baseball. I'm getting chicks. I've paid a lot of money. What was the hypothetical? Was it Rick Arnett? No, it was Jeff Crilley from Fox 4 or Channel 8. I can't remember where Jeff Crilley worked back then. But would you have sex with Heather Lock heather locklear for a million dollars

for a minute like you get paid a million and then you have sex i don't think you understand at all how hypotheticals work but that's really like wait i'm gonna take it i get paid and then I yeah win-win so she then ascended to so then I next heard her when I visited when Corby and I went to New York City to cover a fight and we went out with my buddy Joe we scalped the fight tickets we didn't go to the fight legendary we went out and we're back at

Joe's place almost passing out and the're back at Joe's place, almost passing out. And the sports princess was on WFAN doing overnights, weekend overnights. Sure. And I'm like, whoa, sports princess. I know who she is. She's got a poll question. And then I guess the next we hear of her is, yes, she somehow has the most famous person in the United States on a cable access show fielding live phone calls. Like you think the musers taking calls from Jerry is wild.

And so this is like a minute and a half clip of, I think, TMZ first reported on it. So this is the early 2000s. OJ fielding live phone calls with the sports princess. Guys, let's go to Kevin, I believe, in New Jersey. Kevin, what's your question for OJ? Kevin, what's your question for OJ? Kevin, what's your question for OJ? Hi, good show, dude. My kid Chris was wondering, do you think it was a bigger feat to break 2,000 yards in one season or slice two necks in one night?

I'm having a little trouble, Kevin, hearing you. All right, Alex is listening to us in Ohio. Hey, Alex. Hold on, time out. Hey, Alex. How do they not realize that they need to pull the plug after the first call like that and just have a conversation? Or maybe,

well, I don't know what you do, but it's pretty clear out of the gate. Nobody's going to call in and be like, you know, how special was it to play for the Bills Mafia? You know what I mean? They just bail. I don't know, man.

If I'm one of the production guys, I'm like rubbing my hands together. For sure, if you're behind. But some boss or something? Or even the sports princess herself. Like, you know, she's got a sports background Let's just start talking But no this is a

This is a call in show Hey Alex Hey how you doing Can you hear me Yes I can hear you buddy Yeah Remember when you played for the 49ers Yeah

Did you kill Bill Walsh? This is Steve. Steve. How you doing? Not too bad, Steve. It was reported back during the famous chase, you know, that went on in 94. Yes, yes. It was reported on CBS 3 here in Philadelphia that Larry meant to you that you were squeezing your helmet.

That I was what? Hey, how are you doing? Not bad, Brett. Hey, OJ, I had a question for you. With everything that Michael Vick has been going through and being indicted, I was just wondering if you wanted to meet me on the Jersey Shore to do live. There we go. You're going to get jokers, but that's the great thing.

It's wide open. No, I don't mind. I mean, people can say what, if it's negative or what, as long as they're serious about the question. Just be serious. It's easier to tell a joke, but it don't bother me. People are going to be joking. Let's see how she's trying to get out of this.

There we go. You're going to get jokers, but that's the great thing. It's wide open. No, I don't mind. I would have liked to hear her just elaborateokers, but that's the great thing. It's wide open. No, I don't mind. I would have liked to hear her just elaborate on what – but that's the great thing. She wanted to say about live radio. Oh, okay. Yeah, that you never know what's going to happen.

Just be serious. Hey, that's all that G. Swantz – let me see here. I had some Okay So The SJOG one is From the same deal Oh okay I don't know

I just Played everything I had Right there Do you have more? Yeah I think so From that one? Yeah I'm almost positive It's from that one

Okay Oh why is that not coming up? Yeah, me neither. Obviously, though, when he did join Twitter, and that was the open of the show today. Yeah. Was around 2019. Summer of 2019.

Are you looking for the one where he the pitchfork yeah of course it's like yeah I don't know what's up with our Dropbox who's been meddling yeah but yeah when he got on Twitter and he's right there were a bunch of fake accounts

tweeting you know beforehand so it was really kind of weird when he first when he first started seeing it, like, oh, is this actually OJ? And then he posted a video of himself, the one that's in the opening, there's one on the golf cart, where he just kind of pops it back into gear

and zooms out of frame. It's art. But what he would tackle on Twitter, I just thought were, I thought it was just amazing. Yeah. We got to know him about fantasy football. He did enjoy – you know, he's no stranger to what's the top story.

He knows how Stephen A. runs things. If there's a cowboy story, he'd comment. Yeah. But then the even weirder part about it is yeah sometimes he's like he would weigh in on like a supreme court confirmation you're like oh okay i guess i never really thought of the juice as a political guy about uh he's about to watch the first debate yeah primary debate or a presidential debate and then far and away the one that blew me away the most was when he would weigh in on murder trials. Oh, my gosh.

The Murdoch murder. The Murdoch case. He's just like, look, I don't know. They've got to prove it beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt. I'm just not, like, it's like, I mean, I guess it's not that different from Fox News having, like, Mark Furman and Oliver North on as correspondents for war and policing. But he just was like, yeah, I mean, I look at this guy and he looks guilty to me.

Like he's the guy you should get on. Yeah. He is not Khloe Kardashian's father. He made that clear on Twitter at one point. Let's see. Just upset about what's happening in America today. What's he got here? I remember.

Hey, Twitter world. It's me, yours truly. Now, today I'm going to talk about two subjects, fantasy football and the debates tonight. I think I told TC once that his Twitter videos sound like watching PTI where they just have five or six topics on the side that don't have anything to do with each other. And he's just like, all right, I'm going to hit this one, hit that one, hit this one.

Let's see here. Can I play? Hey, Twitter world, yours truly. Well, let me say I'm happy to see that Ezekiel Elliott's going to be in camp, and he'll be playing this Sunday. I look forward to seeing him and Barkley go after each other. That's when Zeke finally signed his contract after the holdout. Here's one.

Let's see if I can play this. Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. Well, a whole lot of people are asking me what I can play this. Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. Well, a whole lot of people are asking me what I think about this Alex Murdoch trial. I don't know why they think I'm an expert on it, but... Hey, Twitter world, yours truly. I just got back from the golf course where I actually played pretty well. Now it's back at home, back to the couch, and back to television. Listen, I've had so many people on my case asking me to watch some show called Tiger King.

It's just... Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. Well, I don't know how it happened, but yesterday, for some reason, the conversation amongst all my golf buddies got about this thing about transgender males. Especially in high school, competing against the girls. All right, yeah. Like any hot topic. Yeah.

What's this one? Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. Well, spent this morning watching Mr. Bezos and his trip into outer space, which is, you know, he went over 62 miles, which is officially out of space. But I got to admire his courage and Branson's courage because I know there's no way you could get me on that much explosive material. Today, the Dallas Cowboys, the first team to go into camp. And I was talking to a buddy of mine in my league this morning,

and I was telling him that the Dallas Cowboys is going to be the highest scoring team in fantasy football, at least. Okay, well, that's good. Oh, okay. Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. I heard something really interesting today. You know, with 99 or whatever percent of people dying are the unvaccinated from the new COVID stuff. Here we go.

Over 90% of hospitalizations, especially in Florida, are among the unvaccinated. A female doctor was on this morning. She made the best analogy I've heard. She said that being vaccinated is like wearing your seatbelt. That it doesn't guarantee you won't get in an accident but if you do you have a much better chance of surviving hey get your shots i don't like wearing masks and as you people who aren't getting the shots that brought this mask thing back i'm'm just saying. Take care. Take care.

How do you think, so if OJ does put something out that you find logical, do you feel weird? Yeah, do you feel weird? Like, hey, wait. Man, I'm really lockstep here with OJ. Send it to your buddies. Like, I don't know, man.

He was acquitted. Hey, Twitter world, it's me, yours truly. Well, football is back, but it's preseason. This morning, all the news is about the return of COVID and the Taliban. Why don't you talk about the Taliban? This will never not be funny to me. this will never not be funny to me like if you just think about he's he's got to be one of the top five to ten cultural figures of the last 50 years remember we used to do beef wednesday yeah and this lindell guy i got my own hePillow guy. I got my own beef with him.

He's going after MyPillow guy. Okay. But think about it. I mean, I wasn't around to watch him. I guess you weren't really either. No. I know him, or I first guess, I guess my first real consciousness of who he was was that he was in the Naked Gun movie. Yeah.

I think that might have been it for me, too. Just watching it with my dad. Then he was also a Monday Night Football announcer. But I can't say I was locked into Monday Night Football at that age. But I knew who he was and that he was. And I knew he rushed for 2,000 yards. And the commercials. Hurts first.

Yeah, running through the airport. One of the first, if not most, for the time, commercially successful athletes ever. And, you know, people of certain ages absolutely remember where they were during the OJ chase. I do. I was in Michigan at dad number three's place or my brother's place or something like that.

I was at my dad's for sure. It was cut into the finals game, right? It cut into an NBA finals game. Yeah. I was at my dad's apartment with a group of people watching the finals, very young. And then people have told me that they don't believe me when I say this.

Other people have said I absolutely remember that happening in my elementary school they took us to the gym and brought in a tv on a you know the roller thing and we watched the verdict that's the other thing where people know when where they were at that very time yeah and i don't think it was because they the teachers thought like oh this is something important you need to see. I think it's that they all wanted to watch it. And I don't know how many TVs we really had. And they couldn't just all leave their classes. So it wasn't like, hey, kids, this is a cultural moment that we need you to remember. It wasn't like a NASA launch or something.

Yeah. I'll bet you remember OJ playing Kenton Sassman. Yeah, I was just wondering. I think his rookie year he had a different number than 32. Did he really yeah i think he didn't get 32 until you know somebody somebody else already had it in the bills that is by far the most down the list in-depth oj note you could ever get when you ask somebody what do you remember about oj there's like a hundred things you have to go through oh but surprising he was the heisman winner, wasn't he?

Yeah. Oh, yeah, because they took that away. Yeah. I remember when I was in Cleveland. Where was I working at this time? Was I in Youngstown? I believe so. Because I've told you about this.

The OJ bust from the NFL Hall of Fame was stolen. Yeah. Apparently they weren't bolted down back then. And somebody, like this is after the verdict and everything, well after, because I was working in Cleveland when the verdict happened, so this is my next job. But they were never caught. So they got away with that, huh?

That's amazing. Just like the real killers of Nicole and Ron Goldman. That's right. But they stole the bust. Like someone just somehow walked out with it. And then the heat got too hot. And eventually, like a couple weeks later, it was found in the median of a highway. Yeah, what are you going to do with it?

Yeah, we're having to mute yours quickly. Hold on, pop that. What's that? It's probably like that Jackie Robinson statue got stolen in Kansas. Did they ever find that? I remember hearing something about a Jackie Robinson statue being stolen,

but no, I don't. I have no idea. It got destroyed? No. Okay. Yeah, you know, just the fact that you – Well, I wouldn't go that far. I mean, I'm not all for the 42 being retired in every stadium,

but, you know, I wouldn't destroy the statue. I used to tell you, I think we had a drop of this once, that my neighbor played with him in Buffalo. Oh, yeah. And he was – that was like the most interesting thing to me about his career. He was the first team all pro at Notre Dame in college. USC. No, no, my neighbor.

Oh, okay. Yeah, and had a pretty decent NFL career. But when I found out that he played with OJ, like I would – Now you cared. Now I definitely cared. What was he like? That's what he – I asked him. He's like, he's a nice guy.

You know, he's a sweet guy. He's like, I don't know if he did it, but, I mean, he was all – you know, he was a great guy to be around. And all I could think of was like, yeah, I mean, he didn't kill you. Right. Deshaun Watson never made you please him. Yeah. It was weird because the guy was

a preacher. I thought the question I would be getting all day would be the question about the overtime rule of the NFL. Well, you know, I don't totally agree with it because I wish they would have done it like they do college where both teams get involved

and run the 30-yard in and go in. But anything is better than what happened last year. I mean, when you have a thought, you need to get it out there. To not see Josh Allen have an opportunity to keep that game going, certainly it hurt me. But the question I've been getting is Will Smith and Chris Rock. So versatile. The Will Smith slap.

Dude, and it's not like he receded, obviously, by the Twitter account from public life. I mean, my dad has seen him at that golf course before. And he's welcome with open arm. He obviously plays like five times a week. He's got his group of buddies. And they're always at the club. They do their draft at the club. He's just out there in the Vegas area just living a retired life.

He killed two people. Let's see here. Oh, this was big. During the chase again it just seems perfectly clear that cowling wants everybody to be calm oh you know what

I don't know if I have that cut into the very part that it is well maybe we do hold on let's see be calm let me move forward a little bit. Just going to ask everybody to be quiet for a moment.

We have on the phone with us as well Robert Higgins, who lives in the neighborhood and is on the ground and can see inside the van. Mr. Higgins. Yes, how are you? Just about as tense as you are, sir. Oh, my Lord, this is quite the tenses. What can you see? Oh, my Lord, this is quite the tenses. What can you see?

What I'm looking at right now is I'm looking at the van, and I see O.J. kind of slouching down, looking very, very upset. Now, looking here, he looks very upset. I don't know what he's going to be doing. Can you see him doing anything specific? Is he merely sitting there? He is just sitting around, you know, just looking like he'd be very nervous. Can you hear anything, Mr. Higgins?

It's just too much commotion. I'd be in the back of a news van, so I can't really hear that good, but I can see it all. And I see O.J. I see O.J., man, and he looks scared. And I would be scared because there's cops all deep in this. Thank you, Mr. Higgins. And baba booey to y'all. Yep.

The driveway of O.J. Simpson's home in Brentwood. Clearly an effort being made to have him come out of the vehicle. In the doorway of the house, his friend, Al Cowling. Peter, by the way, just for the record, this is Al Michaels. That was a totally farcical call. Lest anybody think that that was somebody who was truly across the street. That was not. He said something in code at the end that's indicative of the mentioning

of the name of a certain radio talk show host. Okay, thanks, Al. So he was not there. All right, we have them on every coast. Thank you very much. Not the first time, nor the last time we'll have been had, but... Jeez.

How do you get on, like, the national news? ABC News. Live. They're just taking calls. We think OJ the sports princess taking calls is weird. Like, yeah, hey, I'm here on the ground in Libya. A baba buoy. Like during a bombing?

That was during the Rockets and the Knicks finals. Correct. And Bob Costas was just fixated on the whole chase. Yeah. I mean, they had that little picture in a picture. Incredible. As everyone was. A cultural moment.

Yeah. Hey, Twitter world. It's me, yours truly. I did a tweet yesterday regarding Henry henry ruggs um uh his sentence i wasn't really focusing on his sentence it was uh more common on my sentence here in las vegas but he's going through something today you know what they do they kill somebody it's called high desert it's a near prison here then this is all a uh He killed somebody. It's called High Desert.

It's a near prison here. Then this is all a how-to on what happens when you go to prison. Very informative. He's had thoughts on female coaches, on Deshaun Watson. Dwight Howard? Yeah. What is this? Do. What is this? Do I know about this?

This says Sasha Baron Cohen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I played a long time ago. Or J. Simpson. Naked Gunner. Uno, dos, tres. Can I saw you in Naked Gunner?

I'm a saw your body. What's this? It's him trying to admit that he did it, but I think it kind of failed. Okay. It was the second show that he did or whatever. The one that was kind of weird. So is this the only guy that dies that you're allowed to

just not say really nice stuff? It's not the only, but yeah. It's not the only, but he's certainly in that echelon. Like when Harvey Weinstein dies, I don't think that anybody's going to be like, yeah, but I also lost weight from the six-inch sub deals at Subway when Jared Fogle

eats it. You're probably just going to have to keep to yourself on how much Subway changed your life, too. Well, what a day. What a weird life, man. Very weird. Very strange life. Do you have any Norm MacDonald comments on O a weird life, man. Very weird.

Very strange life. Do you have any Norm MacDonald comments on OJ? Oh, man. You could play that for 10 minutes. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's... What's interesting is I saw just today on the Soch that there was... like an SNL skit where Tim Meadows was doing the telestrator. He's playing OJ, and this is right after the verdict,

and he writes out, I did it with the telestrator. Like when he was actually saying, you know, the tight end goes here, and that writes the D or whatever. So they're obviously doing it, but Norm Macdonald got fired for doing it all the time, every show, joke after joke. Certainly after being told not to. Right.

It wasn't like the whole weekend update was about OJ, but every show had at least one OJ joke in it. Yeah, and it would oftentimes be the first one. Yeah. And it was like his really good buddy was one of the – or OJ's really good buddy was a golf partner of OJ's who worked in the brass. Very high up. Do you remember his name?

Do you remember Don? Don Allmire? Yeah. Nah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Okay.

It wasn't Ebersole, was it? No. No. Yeah. Okay. Because he was on, then Norm was on Letterman the next night. Yeah. Which is also classic. Yeah. okay. Because he was on, then Norm was on Letterman the next night. Yeah. Or the night before.

Yeah, he got. The juice is no longer loose. Indeed. The Dumbs of Dumbs of Dumbs. Ty is listening to us in Texas. Hi, Ty. Hi. Great to be with you all. This is a real honor.

I just wanted to tell her, I think O.J. is the biggest fan in the world. I have a good reason why. I was about six years old. Real quick story. 1973 season, the magical season. I'm a little nervous. season, the magical season. I'm a little nervous. My mom and I are on the sidelines, and it's before the game starts, and y'all are warming up.

And she was trying to get my football signed by you, and she yelled, Juice. And I saw you coming over, but I got distracted like little kids do. And I turned around, and not only did you find her football, but you had lanced my mother in the side of the neck with a pitchfork and signed it. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. All right, we found a version of it, but not the one, the perfect one. I can't hear the word

Lance as a verb without thinking of that. It's like the only time I ever I ever referenced that. No puppet! Thank you. Thank you. No Puppet! Thank you. Thank you. Well, you're about to lean into No Puppet a little harder than you ever thought you would, so... Now is not the time to be against No Puppet.

I'm not against it. Okay. What would indicate that I am? I'm just... We're just funnin'. Anyway, the magic of that very short break in that little time, we kicked Kenton off the casting couch

and we replaced him with someone I know as Luis's dad. That is correct. Let's get all the mics up going there. Now, Luis is Luis Ellis. He's a very good friend of ours from a long time ago. You actually worked at the ticket for a while, right? I did.

I worked at the ticket for the longest six months of my life. Here, let's back that mic down just a tad, Michael. Can you pull that mic down just a little bit? I could speak quieter. Well, this is where Michael now is like, Blake said don't touch any levels. Just pull that down for him a little bit, Jake. Which one is it? Just show him which mic it is and just pull it down just a tiny bit.

Luis, though, is, again, he's been up here for some cowboy watching or at least one of the streams. Super Bowl stream, yeah. It was a Super Bowl. I was the guy in the sports shirt because I like sports. Yeah, who doesn't? And I was the one that gifted you all the lovely Romo jerseys that Jake will never wear.

Now should we turn it up just a tad? I'm sorry. I guess my definition of tad is just one tad. I'm sorry. I guess my definition of tad is just one click. Anyway. Let's just go ahead. The Romo jersey does live in the new studio. I did see that.

It's very nice. Piece of accoutrement. Mine's hanging in my closet because I will be wearing it. I saw him wear it just the other day. So I got a text from Luis a while back who said, hey man, this was like in March,

I'm hearing you guys talk about the eclipse. If you're actually interested in talking more, my dad has been to 10 of them in his life and is also the founder of the Texas Star Party. Whoa.

Is it on the ballot? Not yet. Too bad it's not, no. I've also been to three eclipses myself. And then he says a bunch of stuff that I didn't pay attention to, blah, blah, blah. It just got too long. But he did send this picture.

This is apparently the family made Dad, what's your name? Yeah, my name is George. George. George, father of Luis. We welcome you to the program. Thank you. I will say that Luis's foray

into sports has not left us completely out in the cold. We have gone to several BVB games. Oh, I meant to mention that. That's his association as well. Yeah, and we try to cheer him on, although it's kind of hard to tell which of the 28 coaches down there he is. Blondes versus brunettes football game.

That's right. I'm a known color commentator. Yeah. Oh, I thought you played in it. Is there no dudes playing in it? We put a wig on them or something? It's all just ladies? Oh, okay.

I didn't know when you and Saroy would go do that every year. I did it with Chris Arnold. Yeah, no, Ty Walker. It's ladies. Okay. Sorry. It would be fun if you just lined up a group of 15 dudes against 15 women. Although, those are some of the best female flag football players in the region.

I remember one year. They come here for that. One year, you were very upset to go. It was because it was Donovan's birthday party, and it was like at a bowling alley, and everybody's having the best time. I mean, it was really fun. Yeah. And then Jake's like, ugh.

But I got to tell you, though. I committed to this BVB thing. And Sir Roy, who often would commit to the BVB, did not. And he was just living it up at the birthday party. Yeah. Really enjoying when you had to leave. The last one that I went to, though, the last one that I did color on, was one of the best football games I've ever seen in my life. And I'm not kidding you.

Yeah? It was intense. Well, here is the cake. Not as intense as an eclipse. George's family cooked him this cake. Probably baked. Baked him a cake. For your 10th eclipse.

That's awesome. A black cake with a little... To celebrate his 10th blackout. Gold ring around it. We're not counting the ones in college of course yay i like it so what is the texas star party so uh slight correction i'm i'm not the founder per se the the the texas star party started in 1979 by a lady by the name of deborah bird who hosted amateur astronomers out in the davis

mountains state park out in far west Texas. This is kind of close to McDonnell Observatory. And after three years, she wasn't going to do it anymore. And me and a couple of other guys got together and decided, hey, let's host it ourselves. And we moved it down the road about a mile to a big dude ranch, set it up out there, started advertising it, and our first year we got more than 500 people come out. Okay. And what does this mean? This is not just from all over the U.S., but from all over the world.

Come out to do what? They come out to see the dark skies of West Texas. You have to, if you're into astronomy like I am, you have to be willing to get in your car and drive a long way to get to where there's no city lights around it's pretty awesome you can't just think of dfw you got to think of abilene you got to think of midland all these towns out there that are you know spewing light and you got to get away from oil oil rig lights sometimes that's another story and yes that that's a problem too but it's legal like legally binding that they can't have certain

lights at certain times over there in that area it's one of the few places in the country if not the world right that has yeah and we we have dark out rules meaning that if you are attending the star party you have to use a red light at night or be willing to wander around in the dark because no white light is allowed no headlights no flashlights no nothing what a pure yeah that's awesome uh we get folks come out here with pretty big telescopes and by big telescopes i'm talking about imagine a mirror 30 or 32 inches around at the base of the telescope and you have to climb a 10 to 12 foot ladder to get to the eyepiece that's how big these telescopes are yeah and they come from all over the world like i met people

there from like australia from you know europe they come from all these distances out to random fort davis texas because again the the the darkness of the sky is so that you can really observe a ton of different things so a lot of it is for a hobby right some of it is for studies like some people that are actually trying to you know discover new things or trying to map things out um but a lot of it is for the the hobbyists that want to go out there and really get a good uh organized environment where they can go and observe and you know honestly a lot of the fun too is to go check out some of these other scopes and see what these other people do because they've got rigs that are that are crazy and um you know if you're into cool astronomical stuff it's the place to be for sure but these are

advanced amateurs most of them they come out there willing to spend a whole week up all night every night you know looking at stuff that's so far out in space, you need a big telescope even to be able to look at it. We have speakers come out. We've had astronauts. We've had professional astronomers who've recently made some great discovery and got worldwide attention. We run the gamut of people from all over the natural sciences and space sciences to come out and talk to us. So it's been going on for 43 years now, and we just had one. We moved it away from West Texas just this past year

to have it down northwest of Waco in a place called Latham Springs where they saw the total eclipse on the center line. And we had more than 200 people come out for that. So you're stoked on eclipses. Very much so. How did you get into that? What was your first one? Well, I grew up in Florida during the space age, right?

So when they were doing the space launches out of Cape Canaveral. And that got me into it. And I think I was an eighth grader when I went to my first total eclipse up in Perry, Florida, which was about four hours north of the Tampa Bay area where I grew up. And we got clouded out, but just the notion of experiencing instant darkness, you know, coming in, you know, over us in the middle of the afternoon it just it just turned a switch and i said oh i've got to do this again and uh my dad was very supportive we flew up to uh uh south shore of uh the saint lawrence river in quebec and we saw another one

in 1972 that's the one famously mentioned in carly Simon's song, You're So Vain, by the way. There's a lyric about that eclipse in there. And from there, I decided, oh, I've got to do this yet again. And so at age 15 and 11 months, I joined an expedition of 220 people to go to akjut mauretania in west africa in the end of june out in the middle of the sahara to see a six minute total solar eclipse by yourself no 220 no no no no but you did a parent garden no no i i had a a fellow who was appointed to be my my uh watchful guardian it's his fan but I was the second youngest person on the expedition. You got to be on Rolling Stone because of that. Yes, I got my picture in Rolling Stone magazine.

Okay. October 11th, 1973, Art Garfunkel on the cover, there was an article about eclipse addiction and about these crazy people from all over the world who are willing to descend on the Sahara in the middle of the summer to witness the sun disappear for six minutes. So being in Rolling Stone, you could say he's the rock star of astronomers. Yeah. There you go.

For sure. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson might have a thing or two to say about that. Yeah, whatever. So that gets you through three. Yeah. At the age of 15. Yeah. 15 and 11 months.

That's right. What are you, like a baby? He's got a 16-month-old. All right. Now you're pretty much established as if there's going to be an eclipse somewhere in the world, I will be there. Well, I'm going to try to be there. God knows I've missed plenty of them.

But I'm saying now at the age of 15, oh, you've missed some then. Oh, I've missed plenty of them. I've only seen 10 totals. And that doesn't sound like a trivial thing. You've got to catch up to that old Fort Worth, right? Yeah, yeah. 22-year-old? Yeah.

Right, right. He knows him, right? You know that guy. Yeah, yeah. I met him-year-old, yeah. Right, right. He knows him, right? You know that guy. Yeah, yeah. I met him about 40 years ago, I recall. But the thing is... Did you think he'd still be around? Because you probably thought he was old then.

Let me tell you who the world record holder is. Yeah, Laverne Beiser is the guy you're talking about. The world record holder is a man by the name of Paul Maley down in Houston. He has been to 82 eclipses. Well, probably 83 counting yesterday. All right, yeah, you can't. You can't even deal with that. No, but that's a record

that nobody's ever going to break, right? Is that just kind of his whole life? He takes expeditions. So he doesn't just go himself. He takes large groups of people to these things. So it probably becomes your profession. Could be a money-making thing. Yeah, for sure.

We've done a couple of them. So my wife and I have gone to two. We've hosted small groups of 10 or 12 people to two expeditions in South America, one to Venezuela and one to Peru. And this was Venezuela back when you could still go to Venezuela, back in the 90s. But they were wonderful. I mean, it's exciting to be able to go to a different part of the world

and to go someplace that's maybe a little bit off the beaten path. But if there's an eclipse there, that's a perfectly good reason to go. All for five minutes or four minutes or whatever. three or two or even one yeah and yes so you don't have to get clouded out it doesn't have to rebuy glasses every you know right you've got you've got a glasses case with eclipse glasses in it they do have a life uh a lifetime to them but yes i have a pair of custom eclipse glasses. Yeah, come on. He actually does. They're pretty sweet. They're full on Oakley looking.

So are you guys, because I've talked about this before, my Uncle Gary was really into golf. And so any birthday, Christmas, whatever, Gary's getting something golf. Might be a tie that has golf balls on it. Might be golf balls. Might be whatever.

Early in my dating career with my wife she's she uh understood that i enjoyed uh i liked superman i liked it liked it okay didn't it wasn't my whole life and then every birthday whatever she'd get me a superman uh uh what do you call it? Light switch cover, mug, poster. And now when you walk in here, you're like, oh my gosh, you'd love Superman because you got 80 Superman things. No, it's not my fault. I would imagine though, if it's Christmas birthday,

let's get this guy an Eclipse key ring. Let's get him a Dumb Zone Eclipse shirt, right? Let's get him all the... I think if you walked into our house, it'd be pretty evident that he's been to one or two Eclipses. That you're into it. Yeah, we've got Eclipses and Yamas all over the house. My wife is into Yamas.

I'm into Eclipses. It's a bizarre combination, but it works. I'm sorry. I don't know what that is. What's a Yama? A Yama? You know, the animals. Llama? Llama, thank you. Llama is how you technically's a llama? A llama, the animal. You know the animals. Llama?

Llama, thank you. Llama is how you technically pronounce it, Dan. Oh, really? That's okay. In Spanish, do they actually say... It's double L, so they say llama. Yeah, but so... Say llama.

We'll say llama. Llama. For sure, but I'm just saying, are English speakers the only ones that say llama? I would think so, yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Okay. I never considered that one i mean

there's others that make sense like obviously you're not going to say tortilla yeah so you never thought of that before you didn't go to africa to try to um threaten the locals and you could get all their riches or else you'd burn out the sun you're gonna kill their sun god well you know there's documented uh stories uh dating back hundreds of years of you know natives in new guinea and places like that just shooting arrows up at the dragon swallowing the sun and it's always worked right it goes away it does end up going away uh any particularly exciting things happen to you on these trips oh my goodness probably the probably the eclipse well you know but besides that yeah like an arrest or something well my first one was when we almost got stranded in puerto vallarta right tell that story yeah yeah

so we went to one it was north of puerto vall, Mexico in 1991. And Lou was with us on that trip. And we were supposed to go about 60 miles north of there to get into the center line of the eclipse. And our cab driver backed out. He said, fair to go up there is about 10 times what I told you it was yesterday. The collusion, you know how it goes. That'll happen. And so we ended up going with a group of tourists from the island of Martinique on a bus. And I spent all my time practicing Spanish and all of a sudden now I had to learn French. But we go up there and we get our equipment out and break it out and start setting everything up. And then all of a sudden the clouds roll in clouds roll in we got oh crap we got to get back on the bus and go somewhere else and in the course of tearing my stuff down the wooden cradle that holds the mount of my telescope broke in half cleanly broke in half and i'm sitting on the bus thinking god i'm screwed what am i going to do here and then i see the the uh the uh machine screws holding the bus together and i decide to take a screwdriver and remove a couple of them and i fix my mount now if it had been

clear and i got pictures that would have been a great story but as it is his son and daughter were on that bus that he was taking away the screws from so he's pretty uh dedicated all this yeah you say get equipment out. So you have a... I have a telescope. During the eclipse, you have a telescope to look at. Yes, and take pictures. I like taking pictures of these things. You can take pictures through the telescope?

Yes. Okay. Yeah, you just hook your camera to the back of it and set it up. Now it's pretty easy with the digital cameras. You can take a billion pictures and make sure you get every little moment. The diamond ring effect, you get all the little solar flares you see coming out from the sun. It's pretty cool.

Quite a commitment to not know if it's going to be cloudy or not, too. You do your homework. You know, Texas, of course, April is such a crapshoot month. You know, we were lucky to get what we got here. But a lot of places, I mean, you know, you do your homework. You try to go where you think the prospects for clear skies are the best, and some things are like shooting fish in a barrel, going to the Sahara. I think it's going to be sunny there.

That's a pretty fair bet. Okay. But when we went to the one in 2017 across the U.S., we didn't know. Yeah, where did you go? Well, we ended up flying to Denver, and then we had three sites picked out, one in Idaho, one in Nebraska, one in Wyoming. And we were going to wait until the day before and decide where the prospects were the best, and they were Idaho.

So we took off for Idaho. You were just going to drive to one of the three? We flew to Salt Lake City and drove. But we had our plane tickets in advance. And then we just canceled on the last second, and we decided to drive to Rigby, Idaho from Salt Lake City. Okay. So this is why they call them chasing eclipses. Because oftentimes you do find yourself having to chase where it is,

not only to get under the shadow, but to get under a place where it happens to be clear also. And I had talked to Blake during the Super Bowl stream about doing, you know, a show from there, having you guys come out to where we went. So where we went, we set up scopes and had it all kind of decked out. But with the weather, it was going to be a crapshoot. It was like, oh, we have you guys out there for looking at clouds. So we decided kind of against that.

I mean, it was cloudy the day before, the morning of. It was cloudy minutes before. That afternoon, the next day it rained. It was kind of incredible that that worked out for us. Yeah, and people ask me sometimes, how did you know to stay put? You don't really, right? At some point, it becomes just kind of a, I'm going to just take a leap of faith here. But for this past Monday, we know our odds are pretty good because

i've been watching the weather for a couple of weeks and those days that had clouds roll in it they seemed like they kind of thinned out around the middle of the day and then they got heavy again in the late afternoon okay and that's exactly what happened on monday have you made friends guys better than delcas oh Oh, yeah. Actually, yeah. Remember, we were making fun of Delkus because Delkus said we were screwed and we were not going to be able to see the eclipse. Yeah, those are pretty much his exact words.

Have you made lifelong friends, like meet the same people at different places now? No, I can't say that because we all go to different places. So you're not in like a Facebook group of like-minded? Oh, I'm in like eight or nine of them. Oh, okay. Yes. Okay, you're not in like a facebook group of like-minded oh i'm in like eight or nine of them oh okay yes okay you're well known in there well i can't say that you know the whole facebook the whole facebook group thing is fairly recent as far as these eclipses go but they're helpful

because a lot of people are literally coming from the other side of the world to attend these things i mean this is like the olympics of right? You know, the Olympic Games, everybody descends in on one city from all over the world. Same with this. And it's over right away. And it's over really fast. And then people, you know, scattered to the four winds. But while they're there, you know, there's a lot of folks. I'll give you an example. When we went to Idaho, there's a lot of folks. I'll give you an example. When we went to Idaho, Interstate 15 goes from Salt Lake City up to

the town of Rigby, and we went up there. It took us about three and a half hours to get up there. It took us close to 12 hours to get back. I mean, imagine leaving a rock concert with two million other people. That's about what it was like. That's what I was worried about the other day, because I read about the one in Montana.

I don't know what the year was, but that people were on the freeway for 20 hours. They were having to use all kinds of bathroom on the side of the freeway and couldn't get medical services to people. Yeah, we decided not, we were going to take the dart that morning and then Jake's like,

well, let's just F it. We'll just sit in traffic for two hours. Yeah, I didn't think it would be in Montana, but yeah, it was nothing. I think also too, this is a big city that's got the infrastructure that can F it. We'll just sit in traffic for two hours. Yeah. I didn't think it would be Fontana, but yeah, it was nothing. I think also, too, this is a big city that's got the infrastructure that can support it. And I think also a lot of it, too, the weather, I think, frightened people from coming here. And they probably went further north or south or whatever. Yeah, I saw some people that lived here said they drove up.

Yeah. So I think that's why you probably didn't see the traffic as much here because of that. Also, you're going to the middle of nowhere a lot of times yeah you're going to middle you're going to rigby idaho when you know it's literally a two-lane road each way it's going to take you a while to get back have you have you had like deep thoughts during eclipses have you has this profoundly uh affected you i i love to take the photographs, as I said, but one of the things that I have learned over the years is stop, look up, enjoy this. This might be the last one.

One never knows, right? But I do take a ton of photographs during one of these three or four minute things. I take a lot of pictures. How did you guys feel? I know Dan, I think, was into it. Jake, you seemed a little skeptic about how cool it was going to be. How did you guys feel?

Did you guys feel anything? Yeah, definitely. You're very small and the universe is happening around you and it's all kind of perfect. Yeah, I mean, I'm not that into astronomy, but I was pretty blown away.

What are your thoughts on space, Jake? Someone sent us... I think his thoughts have changed over the years. Oh, yeah. And I'm not giving you credit for that. In the last five years,

certainly. Recognize it. What are your thoughts on, somebody sent us an email the other day that made us think, boy, that's cool. Like, the fact that

we even have these eclipses are because the size of the moon, the size, you moon, the size, you know, the sun, like everything. If our moon was bigger,

it wouldn't be as cool. You know, like other planets have moons, but they don't, this doesn't happen because it's so perfectly aligned that if we do ever have, uh, interplanetary, uh,

space travel and, and visitors from other planets that this might be a good tourist attraction for them just to see this cool thing. Yeah, it's the most remarkable of coincidences that the moon is 1 400th the diameter of the sun, but it's also 1 400th as far away as the sun. And that is... Is it a coincidence or is that intelligent design? Well, that's up

to the individual to decide to decide for themselves but whatever it is the fact that it is that way is what makes it possible to see a total eclipse are you like into the three body problem and other sci-fi stuff that's a netflix series i don't think he's... Oh, it's a book first. Oh, a book too, yeah. Book series. I can't really speak to that. Okay, but you're stoked on astronomy. Oh, yeah.

Do you think about other life and all that kind of stuff? Well, I think it's... You do a lot of shrooms. No. Okay, no. I think it's safe to assume that there must be other life when you consider the vastness of the universe. I just know that as much as I have looked up in the sky over 65 years of my life, I've never seen anything that was a UFO.

I didn't know what it was. I've seen weather balloons break up in the sky, which I think was kind of fascinating, but I've never seen anything that I couldn't explain. I will tell you this, though. You go out to far west Texas, to the Texas Star Party, and you spend a few nights out there, and you look up, you see space debris

flying all over the place. You get a real appreciation for how much space junk we have up there you know satellites uh that are orbiting and you know in in the stable orbit and some of them are tumbling they go from light to dark to light to dark they're tumbling out of control and they're still up there why not just litter up there too is that what it basically is well eventually we'll have they launched them with the intention of being, of serving some useful purpose, but then their useful life ends and they're still there.

Okay. That's interesting. Do you guys have like a website or anything, this Texas Star Party? TexasStarParty.org. Couldn't get the.com, huh? Well, we are a nonprofit organization, so. Oh, okay. So you want to. Well, we are a nonprofit organization, so. Oh, okay.

So you want to. Boy, we should be got.org then. One of these days. We're not making anything. One of these days. That's a good one. Oh, hey, thanks, man. I got a couple of viewer mails to read.

Hey, everybody. It's time to answer some of today's viewer mail. But I know if I don't ask you and then I close it, then you will. Many of these are birthdays. My Nolan Ryan birthday on this beautiful April 9th. I missed this on Tuesday. Day 1 DF number 575. Tuesday.

Day one DF number 575. I hope to someday love something as much as Blake hates the idea of international travel, solar eclipses, and women simply existing on dating apps. You know, Blake left town. A lot of women were mad at him for that. That's mind-boggling to me. During the solar eclipse. He knew it was coming and planned a trip for that. Mind-boggling to me. During the solar eclipse. Like, he knew it was coming and planned a trip for that week. To go skiing

where you can literally go anytime. Anytime, yeah. This must sicken you, George. You must be ready to puke. Well, I have dear friends of mine who I invited to come from Florida to the eclipse and they said, no thank you, we're taking a cruise to

Europe. One of those transatlantic cruises. So to each his own, you know? Like now that I've seen it, if there was one again, like the 2017 was, you could have gone to Nashville or something, right? Like I would do that.

Yeah, I'm not going that far. You wouldn't? No. You wouldn't drive to Nashville? No. The next one's in Madrid. Yeah, I guess we've we've got i'm a fan of madrid when's that we've got two coming up in spain within a year of each other 2026 and 2027 both in august let's go and then and then 20 madridity time yeah and then 2028 2030 in australia so we got one one that's gonna go

over sydney australia in austral too. He's been to four continents, right? Yeah. Eclipse is in four continents. The eclipse goes the other way in Australia, right? Yeah, I thought when I was in France, I was thinking, man, I would like to travel somewhere where I kind of understand what they're saying. And I think if I went to Spain, I might. It's definitely...

Just because I know a little more... I will tell you that Spain's Spanish is definitely different than Mexico Spanish. Their dialect is different. But you'd still be better off in French. But it is different. Especially depending on the region, for sure. Speaking like Ibiza is a little different. Barcelona.

Barcelona. My leaders are Dan's daughter... Well, I could also... We could hang out with Haralabob. I'm sure he'd be stoked to have us at his mansion. Baffalona. My leaders are Dan's daughter. Well, I could also, we could hang out with Haralabob. I'm sure he'd be stoked to have us at his mansion. I think he would. My leaders are Dan's daughters and the fear they strike in the hearts of grown men. Love, your friend, Rachel Carter.

The great Rachel Carter. Long time supporter. Sports viewer, like to miss my good friend, Day One DF, Grady from Pittsburgh. Happy birthday. Meet Grady. Hey, I know that guy. You do?

I feel like I know what you're about to read, but go ahead. He said he wants Jake to know that even though they don't always see eye to eye, quote, I respect him.

His leader is Dan's childhood best friend, Creamer, from Jared Hamilton yeah one time whenever we were doing was it screenless Friday open phones Friday you and Bob really love the phones

and if you're not in that room you hate the phones and he called in and this is like right around the time that Barstool had really taken off and I've never really been that into Barstool and he just went on a rant about how i steal everything that we do that i bring to the show from barstool and i'm like yeah i think everybody kind of has the same internet and it really pissed me off like because i used to get really pissed off right and i was i yelled at the guy you know and then like a year or so, I had the timeline wrong, but he eventually emailed me and like felt really bad.

That he drew your ire? Yeah. And then we've emailed since then. Not a proud moment. Dan, Jake, and Blake. Happy birthday shout out to my boyfriend, Jason, is turning 43 April 9th. Man, I missed another one.

I'm not able to wake him up in that special way since I'm on a work trip. So if you can give him this rain check, I'd appreciate it from Devin. D-E-V-Y-N. So I'm assuming a lady. Or it could be a dude named Devin and wants to wake up his boyfriend.

Could be a lady who used to be a dude. Right. We welcome them all. They have that now. They do. That's a new bit. They had that when you were growing up, George? He's seen eclipses, but that'll blow his mind right there.

No comment. What's up with the dudes that want to play women's basketball? Please no. It's like every other guy. Please no. I really just, I would love LeBron to do it. No, you wouldn't. You can remake Juana, man.

He made Space Jam again, right? Juana, man. Uncle Hotmail, happy birthday to my brother John Hexum. DZ number. Who cares, he says, since it's not 69. Leaders are Dan's take on Big Jugs.

They can solve world peace. Michael's nodding. The truck that blew Blake's doors off as Blake honked his tiny car horn. And Chappie's life hacks. Here's a life hack to share with Chappie. Check into

a hotel, go to the room, immediately call the front desk, tell them you have medicine that needs to be refrigerated. They bring a fridge right up, no questions asked, free of charge. Hooray, HIPAA. That's fantastic. I'm going to use that. I don't have jugs,

so here's a picture of Akash's senior photo from my yearbook. Keep blowing big clouds, playboy, from Jim. Okay, that's a very thorough email. And Jill says, hoping this email gets through the Hotmail Advance filtering. Let's see. Today is my

little brother's birthday. Clay is a loyal subscriber and you, Dan, are his leader. This is from Jill. Mama called him Clay. Mama called him Clay. So that's... The only email I had

was from P1 Nick, our scientist who confirmed that no, you cannot have a penny go through your skull no matter how high up you drop it. Yeah, I was disappointed to hear that. Yeah, because I take his word as bond. Yeah, he told us about like drag. There's a bunch of numbers and even some symbols in there, math stuff I didn't understand. He has enough stuff in there that makes me totally believe what he said. Yeah, just throw a bunch at the wall, and I'm like, yeah.

I have two more. Because I would have believed that. Listening to today's Dude Perfect segment, I've never wanted a group of guys to be more roiled in scandal. I need a hashtag me too or cocaine problem that breaks up the band to come out. Sadly, they're all Aggies and probably not capable of any cool scandals, sad from Robert Boyd. Would they be on the Bonds list

or the Griffey list? I feel like Griffey. Yeah, I mean, you gotta go Griffey. And I mean, my inclination is Griffey because they do seem like actually good people. They're very religious. But then you gotta remember that a lot of times when this stuff comes out about people who are doing the most...

Yeah, but they're religious, but they don't really pound it into your skull. Do you think they do? I feel like they just kind of keep things family friendly, but they don't like... I mean, they like speak at churches and stuff. But, you know, whatever.

It's not... Yeah, they're not like, if I miss this shot, you're going whatever. Yeah, they're not like, if I miss this shot, you're going to hell. Because I think sometimes if you're really in someone's face about it is when... It's really, you've got something going on. Yeah, like you're trying to cover something up type thing. My friend did go to one of their weddings and said it was pretty tight-laced

and what you would expect from a very Christian-like group of people. Not dry, though. I don't know if it was dry, but I do know that they didn't know each other until that evening. The couple did not know each other until that evening. Yeah. I'm assuming that evening. Wait, what do you mean? Oh, they didn't know each other.

Biblically, Dan. Yeah. No, your only hope for people like that she wore white properly unlike my whore wife Jesus okay your only

yeah she was very lovely when I met her very nice lady trust me they won't hear this your only hope with people like that

and with like Chip and Jojo who genuinely seem like decent people taxes you just gotta hope there's a Wesley Snipes type situation

and Kobe and Kanan or whatever get locked up and yeah, they have to do like a prison break type thing. Airing this fall on Fox 4 at 7pm. And Rosalie says Didn't the guy have like a map tattooed

on his back? Did anybody ever watch that show? Mm-mm. I never actually did, but I remember hearing about it. What show was it? Prison Break. Yeah, I never did. It was quite popular. I never watched it. Rosie?

Is that the name I was trying to get you back to? Rosalie. Rosalie. On the term couldn't care less. Yeah. It says, Merriam-Webster and Dictionary.com both weighed in on this expression. Say couldn't care less and could care less

mean the same thing. It makes no sense, but could care less is the expression most people use to mean couldn't care less. From Rosalie, day four, number 2368. She says, I owe you one because 2368. Got it. She's doing 69 humor.

She says then, by the way, I am very old. I managed to realize you both were not on vacation from the ticket. I Googled where you were and I signed up for your podcast, even though I'm technically challenged. Hell yeah. I enjoy every minute several times. So she'll listen over again. That's fantastic.

That is pretty sweet, Rosalie. That's a Hall of Fame listener right there. What you doing, Rosalie? I believe I'm aware that I could not care less is correct. But I think I oscillate back and forth on which one I use and forget which is correct because I'm a moron. Couldn't care. I feel like couldn't care less is the way to go.

Yeah. Because if you could care less, well, then you're saying that's not the worst thing I've ever heard. Right. I could actually care less about this. Right, but you're holding my interest slightly. Yeah, for sure. I've never heard anybody say that I could care less about this. Right, but you're holding my interest slightly. Yeah, for sure. I've never heard anybody say that I could care less was correct.

Now, I'm not going to question Rosalie. Or Mariam. Right. And his friend Webster. So it's not someone named Mariam Webster? I have no idea. Oh. There is a dash, right?

Yeah, there is. Okay. I have no idea. Oh. There is a dash, right? Yeah, there is. Okay. Think about what a nerd you have to be to be like, go to your buddy and like, I have an idea.

You and me, let's start a dictionary. Webster, it's Merriam. I think Webster Merriam sounds good, though. Nah, I don't know, man. I mean, let's just go alphabetical. Look, I mean, I called you, okay? Of course you're saying that. You always do this to me. You can't just win with that.

My name's Webster all my life. How about once just give me this? My first name's Dan. That beats yours. Then they got in a fight and created the thesaurus afterwards. Yeah. Screw your words. Those are words you should use instead. I and created the thesaurus afterwards. Yeah. Screw your words. Those are words you should use instead.

I want to see the behind the music. Hey, would you mind switching places with Kenton? Go right ahead. Okay, George is, yeah, we're going to change out the lines and do this now. Here's James. Oh. Yeah or no? Yeah, yeah, we're fine.

I had a bunch of. You're good for that? Oops. We absolutely do. I was going to play the close. Look, we got to lead with this one, because as I saw Dan tweet, he's been sent this literally a million times.

There's just no way to avoid it. Oh, okay, yeah. There are sometimes stories... I'm surprised we didn't just start the show with it. Well, the juice was... Yeah. No longer on the loose. There are some times where I'm like,

you know, Dan is not on Twitter all the time. Maybe he won't see a story. But there are also times where I know no chance. Luis, if you want to keep the mic, hang out. Like, whatever. I just want to honor Kenton. Sorry. In this case, of course, we're talking about the heinous act of vandalism

that has occurred at the Grapevine 9-11 flight crew memorial. On Monday, police noticed... So the legendary memorial, which is in front of a Tex-Mex restaurant. We've been contacted by the owner. I first got enamored with this because TC would always bring this up on your other podcast. Yeah, because... Because it's just such an oddity that... Well, and also because TC,

like most people who live in Dallas, they do nothing but shit on everything around, whether it's Fort Worth or the suburbs because you don't have anything there. How could you possibly live a good life there? They don't get how great it is. You don't live in Dallas, then you're not cool. You know, everything you have sucks.

And so that was his bit was, and it was a hilarious one, was you don't have anything. Oh, I do see you have, for some reason, a 9-11 memorial down the street from your house, which I'd driven by probably a thousand times, wholly unaware that it was there. Okay. It's not exactly towering.

It doesn't stand out? No, not really. But once you know it's there, obviously, and then once you know it was there okay it's not exactly towering it doesn't like stand out no not really but once you know it's there obviously and then once you know it's there also you'll see a little bit further back up 26 a sign that says um something the effect of with arrows pointing that direction um grapevine mills bass pro shop 9-11 Memorial. Oh, really? Yeah. So the government acknowledges it. At least the city does as part of their tourism. What three things do we have to see while we're here?

Yeah, let's take the tour. Yeah. The mall. Yeah, Legoland. Wait, what was the third one? I think it's Grapevine Mills. Bass Pro Shop? Bass Pro Shop. The mall, a cool store.

And a 9-11 memorial. And yes, it is right in front of an office park where there is a Mesa, the Tex-Mex restaurant. Great food. And some empty commercial real estate offices. That's pretty much it. It's not like at a cool park. It's just on the corner across from a truck stop, frankly. It's also a great truck stop.

I think the owner of that whole building should want to let us have a studio there just for the pub we could give it. Yeah, yeah. Well, here's the thing, though. We started talking about this quite a bit over the last few months and like we got that, uh, that guy via Dave Raymond who helped him with his staircase. We got that guy free tickets to opening day and he took his dad after they had sworn off baseball, right? We have power here. What was the one the other day that we tried to claim credit for? Oh, Pat Green at the Rangers games.

That's right. And Cotton Eye Joe. The downside of our fame is that we talked about the 9-11 flight crew memorial at Mesa Tex-Mex restaurant so much that people went and stole two stones from the site. So what are the stones? They're actually from like... One stone was from the crash site of Flight 93. The other was a piece of limestone from the Pentagon. And they're just out there loose?

Well, I mean, I suppose. Like the OJ bus? Yeah. So my buddy Mark texted me this morning. He's been up here for a show or for a live stream. There's a greater than zero chance that you will receive a package that contains the two missing rocks from the 9-11 war. Oh, my God. What if those landed on – that would –

We would have to take them back. Yeah. Immediately. Because we couldn't, like, promote it. We could promote it and then take them back. Boy. Well, that kind of ruins the surprise I got you guys now. And let me

safe space it here, okay? There was a board of directors that created this memorial. And there was a man named Joe Luccioni. He was on the board of directors. He visits it every week. His daughter's and there's a man named Joe Luciani. He was on the board of directors. Hey! He visits it every week.

His daughter's fiancé died in 9-11. Now, his stones, which were a gift to the city, are missing. Now, I guess I just... And he says, I still can't believe it's missing. You know, he says I'm very upset. Joe. Joe, yeah. I just don't know that the Stones being there or not are going to in any way change the way that you commemorate

or remember your daughter's fiancé. Let's be clear about the level of don't pull your mic down yeah you're not allowed to pull your mic away if you're going to laugh now so I mean they may have had listen if they had kids something I remembered earlier if they have kids

in an ungodlike fashion then perhaps because that's the father of his grandkids but it doesn't say anything about that. So, I guess what we're saying is, return the stones already. We're begging you.

Bring the stones back. Just bring back our stones. Give it all back. What does an air traffic controller guy think about all this? He's probably not loving it, but I got to do my bit. Wasn't there someplace like in Scotland or whatever, they had a, not the real steel, but just a. Yeah.

Yeah. We've been looking them up. They're all over the world. So maybe they'll get some stones. What if this becomes an epidemic across the nation and it all comes back to us? People start stealing stuff. Yeah. Little pieces of the beam.

Well, they all really only have little pieces of the beam. Rishi Rice. Oh, we're done done 9-11 a uh warrant has been issued for rishi rice the kansas city chief's wide receiver smu alum and uh fellow richland high school graduate fellow receiver yeah cut from the same cloth same room back in the same same room watching tape he walked down that same path you did yeah i laid it yeah yeah without you there would be no him so we talked about this the other day uh he was in a collision wfa actually obtained uh dash cam video of a car that was behind him they're're on 75. This happened in late March. It's a Lamborghini

and then another one's an SUV. A Lamborghini SUV and the other one I believe is a Corvette. He had rented both of them. He was driving one of them. His friends were driving the other. You could see they were street racing. They crash into each other.

They make their way over to the right hand lane of Central and then they all get out and just kind of take off. So, the passengers in both cars will not be charged. The driver of the Corvette, who is a cornerback on the current roster of SMU's football team, will be charged. So you got two of them being charged, Rasheed and the current SMU player. He probably put both of them in his name, I would have to imagine. Charged with what? Reckless stuff?

There's a lot. Let's see. Mischief? Six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury, and one count of aggravated assault. Did anyone else get hurt besides them? That I – they must have because I believe there were only six people total between the two cars. And if they're not – I don't think you could be charged with –

I thought there was like four other cars. That's what I'm saying is that there had to be other people because I don't think they could charge you with bodily injury to yourself. I think four went to the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so once they found out who was in the other car, like, oh, yeah. That was the weird thing where they said like three of them had obtained like legal representation and one hasn't yet.

Like the law hawk was just hovering over them. Yeah. Yeah, because you know like the guys that are in the car are going to charge them. Yeah. Even if they did get hurt. So it's just because there are three or four other cars that spin out. This sounds like a he said, she said. No, there's a video.

There's a video. He said, Rasheed said. Oh, okay. Damn. This guy's on fire. He's heating up. Royce West, state senator, who basically represents any high-profile Dallas athlete, frankly, black,

anytime they're in trouble, it seems like. He was associated with Dez for a while. He might have even had enough of Dez at one point and said, dude, I can't handle you. He is acting as Rice's attorney confirmed last week that his client has acknowledged to investigators that he was driving the Lamborghini in the crash

he has not yet been taken into custody they typically allow suspects a chance to turn themselves in before sending officers to arrest them and of course the funny note last week from this was that in the car, both cars, was a pot, credit cards, $16,500 check, a diamond chain, and the Chief's playbook. Which was, yeah. So I have a little bit of news audio for you that relates to this um this is

kind of an awkward transition i was watching fox four this morning uh they have a six o'clock good day seven o'clock good day they're good day in it all day and apparently they have a bit at the end of the six o'clock hour where you know they do birthdays we've done this before yeah a lot of times they'll do like kid birthdays too you know you send in like in so if you're a male jackson's 10 all right yeah so this bit though is stole that from us they have they put up a celebrity and then the two anchors i know would you Would you? They play Would You? Yeah, yeah. Hot or not. Yeah, so the two anchors, they guess at the person's age.

That'd be great. That's the bit. They guess at the person's age. And this is at like 6.58. Okay. Now keep something in mind. I like it. What happens...

I'm stealing it. What happens at 7 a.m.? New show. Okay? New Good Day show. Yeah. Singer J New show. Okay. New good day show. Yeah. Singer Joss Stone. Okay.

Debut album released in 2003. 42. Okay. I'll say 38 for her. Yeah, I like that. 39. 37. So close.

2003 was 21 years ago. That was her first album. I was 21 years ago. That was her first album. I was just going to say, though, would you guess 39? Okay, sorry. I think she turned out to be 37. Oh, really? 47.

Oh, 47. Okay. I was going to say, though. You know, female singers a lot of times might have an 18. At 17? I don't know. All right. It's like tears might follow that sound. Okay, we're having fun, right?

I want to go back to the sound. All right, sorry. So close. It's like tears might follow that sound. Having fun. They're rubbing it in. All right, happy birthday to them. Happy birthday to you if it's your big day.

You're watching Good Day. Okay, having fun. Fox 4, the only local news at 7 a.m. This is Good Day. An arrest warrant is issued for NFL star Rashi Rice, who was involved in a serious crime. Same guy. Yeah, there's no way to do it. He gets...

Why don't they just have a three-hour morning show? I don't know. Why do they have to have three one-hour morning shows? I really don't know, but they all do it. It's just really professionalism from this gym. We don't know. Why do they have to have three one-hour morning shows? I really don't know, but they all do it. It's just really professionalism from this gen. We should do that. He got six seconds to go from

wah-wah to Rasheed Rice nearly killed a couple of people. There's an arrest warrant for it. But I'm thinking we got to do that. We'll just put out two shows a day. Whoa! Okay, yeah. They do kind of do the same show so if that's what you're after then maybe okay so they're doing birthdays again an hour

later that i'm not positive about but i can check for you as i now have all of them recorded yeah and uh in covet news uh but I also have another one. This is Eclipse related. This is not necessarily a horrible transition. It's really more just like Delcus needs his time. Well, I know one family that I'll never forget. Today's total solar eclipse meet Sol Celeste, a baby girl born during today's eclipse at Methodist Mansfield. The name Sol means sun in Spanish. And her older sister just happens to be named Luna which means

moon that's pretty cool make that up that is good for them yeah like isn't this cool this magical moment this baby born during the eclipse. Yeah, it is pretty cool. Hey, a couple minutes. It might rain. It's not a tornado. It's not a... Hey, it might rain. To Delcus' credit, though... Save your severe thunderstorm warnings, okay?

What is he supposed to do with that info about Luna? You know, make that interesting. Because I would have said what we said the other day. That diminishes Sol's name yeah I like you're probably gonna name it Sol no matter what I already named the other kid Luna the truth is they're putting they're putting sports or let's see weather coop in a bad spot unless you're really stoked like if you're stoked on the eclipses george let's say like if uh if you're having sex nine months previous female would he have been luna yeah probably not but yeah but but you can have sex you can time out the you see when the eclipse is

have sex eight and a half months before because then you can induce right you can't always make sure you're gonna to get nine months. This is true. And just like if it won't come out, you cut it out. So you can have an eclipse baby. Technically true. And then you can have an excuse not to be in the room because, hey, honey. It's a magical thing.

I got to go watch the eclipse. Or you give birth out in a field. I'm sure people... Well, I'm thinking these things... I got a lot of things to get ready for for the next eclipse. In the next... One year... Two years in Spain.

Yeah. We're going to need a fill-in producer, Michael. No, we'll go over there. I'll seduce a lady from Spain. Fall in love. No, no. We're going to just go over there to live. Okay.

I seduce her now. I fall in love. Yeah. Or I trick her into falling in love with me, as I can do with any woman. Yeah. Then we'll have that baby, have the solar baby, the eclipse baby. Then I'll break up with her. Okay.

What's the upshot? Just proving I can do a bit. Okay. I might need to write all this down, Kenton. There's a lot of intricacies in this plan. Yeah, there are. We'll work it out. Everybody stop paying.

Next business Wednesday, we'll work out the case. I know Blake won't be there in Spain. That's true. Reunion Tower in downtown Dallas will go dark starting tonight. We do this story every year. Why? Eclipse? No.

Oh, nope. Dark for a month. We do it every year. I'll give you a guess. Cancer? I'll give you a guess. It's because of cancer. Michael, anything?

Mm-hmm. Birds. What? Migrating birds. I'll give you a guess Cancer? I want you to guess It's because of cancer Michael anything? Birds What? Migrating birds In April? From April 11th to May 12th They said during the spring months Many bird species returned to the US After spending the winter

In Mexico and South America So The moon and the stars to navigate. And there's like hundreds of millions of them. They used the moon and the stars and they like, I guess, for years had problems with. They would leave the ball lit up and it's just bird holocaust. How great are these birds? That ball is the one thing that's distracting them from it.

Like maybe. Pretty weak. Maybe they're not that so great. Maybe we can. Like they're flying into it? Yeah. I say get rid of these birds. But if it's dark, they won't fly into it.

That seems to be counterintuitive. I think they're flying towards lights. Like they're flying towards things that look like stars. Okay. Or using the stars to navigate. Hmm. And the moon. The moon?

Dallas is the third most dangerous city in the U.S. for birds. Who's reporting this? Birds? Yeah. See, I would think that makes sense because we got a lot of mirrored. Back the birds? We have a lot of mirrored buildings, right? So, yeah, that makes sense.

Number two, Chicago. Number three, Houston. Houston's got a lot of mirrored buildings. right? Yeah. So, yeah, that makes sense. Number two, Chicago. Number three, Houston. Houston's got a lot of mirrored buildings. I thought we were three. Oh, excuse me. Chicago won. It just says behind Chicago and Houston. So, we are three, but Chicago and Houston.

Isn't New York number one? Maybe it's a migration path thing. I guess so. Didn't they have that owl that ran into the wall or the building and they were all crying about it? I vaguely remember that. That happened, like weeks ago yeah an owl yeah yeah some falco stupid owl that couldn't tell the difference between a building and flacco flacco yeah central park right yeah there you go owls are pretty rad though that's not just some spare bird. Owls are cool. I miss my owl.

I heard owls could pick up small dogs, right? Some owls? Yeah. Mine was pretty big. He came back after however long it was and he was a lot bigger. Several months. And then I never

saw him again. It's like he came back to tell me bye. Preparing for a role. He got all pumped up. Yeah. Clicked on one of those trainer ads on YouTube like, this is how the stars do it. I get fooled by those every time.

I'm like, all right, let's see how they do it. Yeah. They're going to get this algorithm that they know I just watched two minutes of this ad. Yeah. And I'm still me. I have a bunch of other sports news type stuff, but I say we save all that for another day. The 130.

There's your news. The Dumb Zone News. Like and subscribe. I mean, it's 220, so that would have been absurd. Right. The Dumb Zone presents Today in History. What do you think so far, Kenton? It's very enjoyable here.

That's what we like to hear. We want to put that on the poster. Here's my one note that I have to tell you to tease for tomorrow. Okay. This Shohei stuff is insane. Okay, Shohei, and I want to save. I have some Eclipse audio, too. I think we already have a full show tomorrow.

Shohei's translator, according to federal documents, he won $142 million gambling. Oh, okay. So that takes away that $16 million. He lost $183 million. Oh. Oh, I thought he had won $143 million. I might have to pop Haralabob on and be like,

who's taking this money? Who's taking these bets? They have text messages between him and the bookie, too. Okay. Encrypted text, they say, which means your private browser probably doesn't work. I was thinking the other day, it's amazing how fast that story just kind of came and went. If you grew up in the Pete Rose betting on baseball, that was the biggest story ever. And then this thing just happens.

Well, they immediately had a guy. Eh. But it was the most officious-sounding story ever to have a guy. They didn't look that badly back then, though. Now they're sponsors. Yeah, it's crazy. It's 40 states legal. Yeah.

But yeah, this guy's going away for a little while. How long have we been going, Michael? Do you know? 2.15. Yeah, there's a little cut in the middle. We're good. Yeah, 2. Today is Thursday, April 11th. On this day in 1877, Fred Thayer, he was the captain of the Harvard University baseball team.

He designed the first catcher's mask. So it took someone from Harvard to come up with that idea. So, no mask at all before? Right. Damn. His teammate Jim Ting was the first to wear one in a game.

Pete Hoteling became the first professional to wear one. What year was that you said? 1877. Okay. That's when baseball got woke. If you ask me.

First recorded use of a hockey goalie mask, 1927. Jeez. So the idea was out there. Yeah, that's what I was looking up. I'm like, so did they immediately realize? For 50 years, they're like. Because I feel like those are both equally. Which one do you think would be worse?

I feel like catcher would be worse. Well, I mean, catcher, yeah. The foul ball possibility. Yeah, yeah. Even in Little League when they let me catch, I could never get over the fear that I was going to get hit with a bat. Like I never could just time out or, you know, get the spacing right. I was so afraid.

Yeah. I wanted to catch because I knew that could mean more playing time out or, you know, get the spacing right. I was so afraid. Yeah. I wanted to catch because I knew that could mean more playing time and stuff. So I tried. I just couldn't, man. I was such a baby. I'd flinch every time. I did play goalie. You did?

Yeah, okay. So that's why I have to confirm. Catcher worse. I think goalie wouldn't be as bad. Yeah. You know, catcher, you're getting the ball every time. Yeah. That's a possibility.

For a goalie, you can kind of stand there for a while. This day in 1970, Apollo 13 blasted off on its ill-fated mission to the moon. It was aborted. Because... I'm not sure. That's right. A little abortion joke.

There you go. Because an oxygen tank exploded, the crew splashed down safely four days after the explosion. And then they made a movie with Opie, I think. Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. Opie made the movie, right? He was the director. so in 1996 seven year old Jessica Dubroff

set off to become the youngest person to fly cross country so she was going to they were going to set a record with her father and flight instructor and then it crashed

the flight crashed in what year? 2006? 1996 and then it crashed. The flight crashed. In what year? 2006? 1996. 96, yeah. I remember. So she became the youngest person to... Could have used you to guide them there, Kenton.

Almost take off. From Cheyenne, Wyoming. This day in 2010. This was a fun day. Texas Stadium was imploded. That's pretty cool. TC went. I watched it on television.

I watched it. Yeah. It was like Sunday morning, right? TC went. Oh, hell yeah, dude. He was there. There's very few things. He'll go to things on you.

Yeah. Yeah. If it's something like that, he'll get up at 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock in the morning, and he was out there. And then remember when we had earthquakes for five solid years? Right there. Yeah. Wasn't that fracking?

And then the fracking companies were like, it's ridiculous. God just misses the cowboys. And then they stopped the fracking, and there's no more earthquakes. Not really any more earthquakes. Amazing. Well, their workaround wasn't the fracking. It was the salt water they were injecting. Yeah, that's very much the...

It's not fracking. Yeah, I didn't kill you. My gun did. Yeah. Or the bullet did. I didn't die of a heart attack. It stopped because of... Or I didn't die

because of the cocaine I was doing. Yeah. I had a heart attack. Yeah. Talk to my ticker. And on this day in 2017, man, Luis,

it's amazing you're here today. Glad to be here. Because this is the day. That women of two separate hair colors first. That Tony Romo suited up for the Dallas Mavericks. Oh, wow. Got his name on the court. Man, those were such dark times.

The team sucked. Dude, and I was in the middle of my five or six year run of post games. They went 24 and 58 that year. Or wait, you said 2017, so it would have been the year before, 33 and 49. Not that much better. No. Was he one of the greatest Mavericks or the greatest Maverick? Who could say? God, look at this roster.

Ugh. Do they sell that shirt or did you have to custom make it? I found it on eBay, actually. Fairly inexpensively, but priceless in my mind when you guys display it and wear it. Just a few birthdays. Jim Nill, 66.

Former Ranger Mark Teixeira, 44. Jim Nill, one of the nicest guys I've met in this business. Very sweet. It's really weird, too, because randomly somehow I was watching the NHL Network was on in the background, and I saw him just kicking the shit out of a guy. Not recently, like when he's playing. No, he was wearing a suit. He was beating up another GM.

No, he was involved in like a – He's got Doug Armstrongs. Yeah. It was like a five-on-five hockey fight from the 70s or something and he was just beating a guy. That's awesome. Like how? Oh, yeah. 70s or something, and he was just beating a guy. That's awesome. How? Oh, yeah.

Mark Teixeira. I once had a mini feud with Mark Teixeira. One of the great Rangers of that era, as baseball tonight would have us believe. Peter Reigert is 77. He is Boone in Animal House. Nigel Pulseford is 63. Is Animal House overrated? I don't know because I haven't seen it in a long time.

I think so. I rated it highly as a kid because you could pause it and there's a great boob shot. Yeah. There is that. When he goes to date the girl from the sorority whose boyfriend had died. Yeah. Great trick. Everyone in the room seems to be against me whose boyfriend had died. Yeah. Great trick. Everyone in the room seems to be against me, so I will stand down. John Belushi.

I might like to watch that someday at the Alamo. Just to see. Belushi's great, but just in general. But we did, I will admit, coming to America upon viewing it 20 years later or whatever, shockingly not as great as you remember it. Like, some

funny scenes, good scenes to play on the radio maybe or in your show, but I think Animal House holds up. I'd like to do it. Animal House is good. Caddyshack I think was the one that you said didn't hold up right and I agree with you on that one. Yeah, I liked it okay, but it's I think it's a little

too schlocky for me. Nigel Pulseford, he is Bush. Bush guitarist. And they open... No way. Hole. Tool.

Corn. Hole opens for corn. Bush opens for tool. And Luis Lasser is 85. No relation. Hit me. I know her very well because of you. Requiem for a Dream.

Oh. She's like the mom. I really like that movie. Yeah, I like it a lot too. It's a great movie. What do you think about that? I love it. It's good.

Oh, man. I mean, it's intense. Yeah, I don't know that it's one where you're like, I want to see this ten times. No, but seeing it was... I mean, we saw it because... What's-his-name was going to be in studio, and then he bailed on us.

Wayans? One of the Wayans, yeah. One of the male Wayans, not the lady. Born on this day, now dead, Mary Ovington, the co-founder of the NAACP. Dead on this day, still dead. 1890, Joseph Merrick died. He was called the Elephant Man because he was really deformed. So society was not really woke in 1890.

No, but I can't think of that without thinking of uh what's the movie that just came out that everybody was mad at bradley cooper for his really maestro maestro yeah so i didn't know that he'd played the elephant man but he had this really really um anti-semitic prosthetic basically He went way overboard for the nose for the role and then people were like but remember when he played the elephant man and just made funny faces? He's like no prosthetics at

all but he did the elephant man in like a theatrical adaptation and he's just like doing funny stuff. So you decided this is the one where you have to have a prosthetic, but that one, he's like, I'll wing it. I have to mention, wasn't it like Hangover when he would say

some pretty wild stuff in it too? Oh, yeah. But you used to be able to. I mean, there's a lot of actors. Dude, I saw a scene from the pilot of Reno 911 the other day, which, by the way, that show is so underrated. Yes. In the pilot. Dude, you would love it. show is so underrated. Yes. In the pilot.

Dude, you would love it. You would love it. Top notch. Yeah. There's an N-word in the pilot from a white person. Doesn't Charlie say the N-word in the pilot of Always Sunny? He does. And it's not the only time.

Man, we did our pilot wrong. Because I think what that shows is growth. Yeah, right. You gotta start somewhere. We have not grown at all. Also died on this day in... You can re-dub it if you want. Okay, yeah, we just dropped that in there.

It's in the middle of a segment. Dorothy Mengering. That was her... of a segment. Dorothy Mengering. That was her I believe remarried name. She died on this day in 2017. She was 95. She was David Letterman's mom.

Were you into Letterman? Yeah, for sure. So you've seen her. And died on this day in 2018. Mitzi Shore. Comedy store. Pauly seen her. Yeah. And died on this day in 2018, Mitzi Shore. Comedy store. Comedy store. Pauly's mom. Great documentary.

You know what? I don't think I've ever seen it. It's on, well, it was Showtime, so maybe it's Paramount Plus now. All right. Great. Really worth it. And that was Today in History. Well, we must thank Louise.

Louise. Not Louise we must thank Luis. Luis. Not Louise. Louise Lasser. And his dad, George. And definitely have to thank you, Kenton, for the support.

Thanks. And we can now revisit, we can now do closing remarks and kind of revisit your email, anything you wanted to follow up on. I see you taking notes from the beginning of the show. Mm-hmm.

Just trying to remember what happens? Oh, there's just certain things, like when they mentioned Carly Simon's You're So Vain, the song, Mick Jagger sang the backup vocals. Okay. There you go. Ding. So, you know, we're going PTI.

I think that's interesting. Put a clock on him. Yeah. But one of the questions I really have for Jake, it's not a bad question. I just want to know behind the scenes. So, you're 30 for 30. The day after the Mother's Day massacre, 2011, and you were working the top 10. And number two was 1920 reporter's guy asking Phil Jackson the last question he was ever asked as a coach.

What was number one? And it even made one of the top 25 of the tickets or whatever. And I don't know. I was going to ask you why it didn't become number one because number one was like the Musers interviewing Lance Armstrong's cousin or something like that, of course. I was just like, wait a minute. Here's the secret to the sauce.

First of all, not all the breaks are the same length. So you have to cut things fine. An 840-bit is going to be the same length every time. So I know I can pair that with a sports segment that I can get to seven and a half minutes that was like 14. That's part of it, is that you would have to figure that out. Number one would usually play by itself, so I would time that,

and it would usually be either the muser's interview or muser's bit. There's also the fact that I think this went away after some time, but at least the beginning, whenever I was in that role, certain producers really wanted to make sure it was Fernando. Fernando wanted to make sure. Yes.

It was Fernando. Fernando wanted to make sure the Musers were number one most of the time. And if they weren't, would he actually contact you? That only had to happen like twice before I. You fell in line. Yeah. I mean, I don't care. It's not worth it to me. But to Kenton's point,

Phil Jackson's last question ever is pretty. Yeah, I know. I don't remember this. Yes, if it can make the top 25 in ticket history, but not number one that day, that's kind of a, yeah, it's not great. You know, an MVP, but I wondered if it was some behind the scenes or producer. No, I don't even remember that. I'm amazed that you do, but no. He's kept it in that notebook. That's incredible. That's incredible.

No, I just, you know, I figured you were riding the corporate ladder. Yes, yep. And look where it got you. That's right. I think he sold out. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I think it was, the one I remember was – I can't remember.

I think the Musers had Nolan Ryan and the Hardline had Chuck Greenberg, which obviously Nolan should be number one. But it might have been a deal where the Greenberg one just fit better and I just did it. He just bought the Rangers with Nolan, and that one got me cooked. And the Hardline, you know, drive time. Yeah. I was thinking it was basically the same.

Like, they both just bought the Rangers together. It's two interviews. Like, one's number four. So, the reason the hard line, because the hard line also drive time. You want to promote drive time in radio. Danny was their producer. Fernando's.'s like so that's why yeah like danny is never calling you saying hey dude why like he has zero idea that the top 10 even exists i don't it's not even in a countdown format anymore is it is it i don't know i don't know i don't really know well the other

thing too is like the producers write down three or four things that they suggest. Because you can't listen the entire day. And so on those, I had to use those because they wrote them down. Except Saroy, who sometimes didn't, and I could just pick. But Danny would never write anything down. So I would just be like, whatever part of your show I heard, it's probably 4.30 E! News at the time, 5.10 Funny Bit, and something else. He would leave a blank every day. Until eventually I think they made it to like a Google Doc.

So then it could be like checked every day without having to actually go in there and look. And then he kind of started just like dicking around with it. Like, I guess he would write on there. It was awesome. So, yeah, to squirting. Oh, sorry. I got another question for you. Okay.

About a John Wayne movie. Were you named after the John Wayne movie Big Jake? Of course I was. There you go. Jacob McCandles. Jacob McCandles. That is correct. Okay.

I think that would have been my middle name if my dad hadn't said, all right, I'm already giving you Jake, Jacob. So they went with Matthew. From your email, before we get to squirting, you also wrote cell phones on planes? Oh, yeah. Okay, so remember about 20 years ago, if you were at the computer and you had your cell phone nearby,

it would all of a sudden start your computer with buzz yeah and everything that's where it came about you could tell if somebody was on a cell phone on a plane if you were talking to them on the frequency you would hear that and and of course the cell phones got better this went away but i don't know how the government you know takes them forever to change it. You know what's weird? I got gas this morning. It was just a regular 7-Eleven, and it was one of the pumps that was jacked up that I had to hold the whole time. You always hate that, right?

Yeah. It's weird how soft we've become. I clicked it, and it's like 30 cents. And I'm like, okay, we'll try again. Clicked it, and it's like six more cents. I'm like, son of a bitch. I actually read the warnings that they put out there for the first time in a long time. Because you're standing there?

Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. Check it out. It actually says to turn your phone off at the pump. Wow. And it also says to not get back in your car. While you're pumping? Yeah, which everyone does.

Dude, I walk in the store. Of course. I leave my I'll walk in the store. Of course. I leave my car on most of the time because I've been told by many people in the auto industry, that doesn't matter. Right, I've heard that too, but I still turn it off. But yeah, there's like a whole list of stuff on there that you would never think of, like, turn my phone off.

Yeah. I'm going to blow my car up. Yeah, never thought of that. Anyways. You also have on there your list, the Space Shuttle Columbia breaking up, which is over Texas, right? That's the one in 2002 or something? Yeah, I think that was like February 2003.

All right. And we were in the break room, and Headline News was on there, and said, hey, the Space Shuttle's coming in. And so we all kind of walked down to a window lookout, and you could see it, I guess, come over. And they paged me to work these satellites. So I'm working there, and these pilots are reporting this plane is on fire way up high. And I said, oh, that's just a space shuttle coming in. That's just a space shuttle coming in. And they a space shuttle coming in they're going no no it's really you know burning you know and then mckinney tower

calls me and says yeah they there's something burning way up high i was playing and i was like oh it's just a space you know i was just telling them just be calm it's nothing and then i get off and you find out what really happened and it was just like. You had egg on your face. Well, there was also a prank called the Dan Rather. You were talking about getting in. Baba Booey? Yeah. And it was a guy from Ulysses because there was an Israeli on the plane and it was a Jewish joke.

They got followed to Dan Rather. I'm not. I also found out last week that – Well, he's got a long list. Well, this is quick. Me and Dan have something in common because according to Caitlin Clark, Des Moines and Cleveland are pretty much the same. That's right.

Yeah. It's just a bigger Des Moines. Yeah, that's where I went to elementary school was in Des Moines. Cross that one off. Yeah. We're down here. Okay. Squirting. Yeah, let's get to something that's

interesting yeah okay i've never told the story before okay so i mean locked in yeah um yeah i had this uh girlfriend i didn't actually want okay yeah go ahead well Well, she, it was funny, like, you know, one time she says, you need to not only wash these sheets, you need to wash your mattress pad. And then she said, or go buy a new mattress pad. And I was like, okay, that's kind of strange. And that's, and then I found out a little bit later, you know, when our roles were reversed, why she wanted me to do that. So, I think Jake gets that one.

Good for you, Kevin. Yeah. When our roles were reversed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like this. You know, this is me, this is her, and then this is her, this is me this is her and then this is her this is me and then i found out oh

this is why and okay so that was happening underneath her and you had no realization of that until she was on top yes yeah yeah okay now you're under the yeah then i realized oh that's when we actually the waterfall that happened in happened in Jamaica, and we had to tip the housekeeping a lot extra. Don't just change the sheets. It's Jamaica. Does that weigh into whether you're deciding to make girlfriend, wife? That's got to be on the list. Dry cleaning.

Yeah. She took care of that pretty quickly as far as how far our relationship was going to go. Oh. Oh. Let that one get away. Too bad. Yeah, but you weren't that. Saving money on sheets every month.

Yeah. God. What have we become? Yeah, well, I don't know. You must remember something else because you were taking care of business, obviously. Yeah, way to go, bro. High five. That was a long time ago.

Back when I was in my 40s and divorced. That's what it is. You got the divorced juices flowing through you. Yeah. How sweet is that? They're excited again. yeah how sweet is that they're excited again um is why you're getting divorced you you're basically blamed for everything from basically kennedy being assassinated on up to you know the reason why she's not you know president united states you know

she just blames you for everything it seems like or your your spouse she blamed you for the columbia yeah and you know she'll blame you for everything that one actually was his fault though and then um but then when you're through it? Yeah, then you're through it, and there's a lot of nice ladies out there. Chimps in the sheets. All of a sudden, you're in Jamaica. So you're endorsing it. You're promoting

endorsing your divorce. No, I'm not. You're not? No, but the weekends are pretty nice. Usually they come over, and it's nice Fridayiday through you know they'll leave sunday you know around lunchtime wait who's they well ladies the girls the girlfriend i'll come over on a friday night okay yeah stay saturday and then leave sunday and then you can watch football you know sunday night sund Sunday night or Sunday afternoon. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a pretty good weekend.

Yeah. All right. You get some workout done. Dan is, like, just way too pumped right now. He's just, we lost him. Yeah, just kind of dreaming. Just kind of dreaming. I was thinking last night, because my wife was gone,

so I had an evening alone. So it was really cool. And then I was thinking about like, you know how the wife and kids will leave now and again when you're married with kids, when you're in the throw of it like you are. Yeah. You got a two-year-old and a five-year-old or whatever. You're not going to get much break now for a decade. Yeah, we'll wear.

15 years. But when you do, it's so gold. And more often, you'll get a break from work. Now, now that we do this, we don't get as much probably vacation time. But, you know, you would have a few weeks a year, everything in normal people that aren't us. Would you rather have a week vacation from work, but you're with your whole family? Or would you have a week vacation from your family, but you still have to work every day?

That's the dumbest thing you've ever asked me. Because it's the vacation from family, right? Of course it is. I was just thinking that too and thinking and i'm probably asking the wrong guy because we're dirtbags and we enable each other to live the lives we live but i would also but i wonder if normal cool regular people that are good people uh i don't know would answer the same way or if they're like i don't want the grind of work i love we're just just honest about it. And most women would say the same thing. Most moms would say the same thing.

Moms at work would say the same thing. And if it came with... Like they would rather all... But she's got to wake up, go to work every day. Still eight hours. You got to deal with your a-hole boss, do whatever. Yeah. You come home and there's no family.

That's more of a cool vacation than... I think, yeah. Yeah, that's an easy one for me pal love you kids but uh and wife yeah but kind of yeah but it's to a lesser extent it's just not even dude i would be i would have my day gridded out from the time before i needed to prep for work i mean by the time i got home every day i would have every meal planned out for five, six days. And also, I would leave on Sunday night. I'm not staying there.

It's obvious, right? I don't come home until Sunday night. It's a weekend. You know, dude, I'd be at Six Flags. What? Alright, well, thanks, Kenton. Or whatever. It's nice being here. I always pictured, thanks, Kenton. Or whatever.

It's nice being here. I always pictured the Dan being behind the desk and being a little bit taller than everybody else. Just a picture of the Dan. You're in charge, but no. He's definitely in charge. We're all just laid back here, bro. Just hanging out. Yeah, just hanging.

Adios, mofo. Adios, mofo. H-I-T-E-R-N-O-M-A H-I-T-E-R-N-O-M-Aいってよどうもいってよ もうどっかのチェーンがなぜか いってよ もうあんなステージで泳いでるの いってよ I'm still living on In vain It's like the day I knew it all

And now I'm living on In vain