The Dumb Zone FREE - The Dumb Zone 6-27-24

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

Hear every episode of The Dumb Zone by subscribing to our Patreon - Patreon.com/TheDumbZoneIn this episode of The Dumb Zone, Dan, Jake, and Blake bring you a live-streamed adventure from the Dallas Athletic Club. Join the crew as they navigate the choppy waters of new gear and live streaming, with a special appearance from DFW media personality Julie Dobbs. The team dives into the latest Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader documentary, reminisces about Lamar Odom’s Dallas days, and even touches on the infamous Helen Keller with Sarah Hepola. Plus, they break down the NBA Draft, Aggie baseball drama, and the upcoming presidential debate. Don’t miss out on the hilarity and unique insights that make The Dumb Zone a must-listen. (00:00) - Open with Julie Dobbs (29:35) - Sports: NBA draft, Schloss picked Austin (01:02:04) - Sarah Hepola (01:41:52) - Viewer Mail (01:53:04) - News (02:13:05) - Today in History ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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The Dunza, Dunza, Dunza. He just spit on his shoulder. He was sitting there and went to spit, A little humid out, I guess, and mouth getting a little bit dry. Didn't quite clear his arm and just landed right on the shoulder. Hawk tour. I know. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I never listen.

I'm going to listen. Is that the way we planned it? Whoa. It'll be interesting. My ears are hot. Along with the rest of me. Hell yeah. You got business shorts on today?

Let's see. Oh, can I not control my ears? You're controlling that, Blake? I got you. All right, pull it up a little bit. A little bit. There we go. I'm fine with mine however it is, Blake.

Okay. Yeah. Anybody else mine however it is, Blake. Okay. Yeah. Anybody else? We're live streaming today. And we're on the road. So that's why it's a bit of a choppy start. But we wanted to do it just to be able to make the mistakes now so we won't make them in the future. Now I need a little more me in my ears.

That's all right. One of these days, we'll practice this early. I mean, that's what this is, right? Yeah, I think so. I think so. I'm fine with whatever, guys. I just want to be clear.

I'm not complaining. I'm saying this whatever, guys. I just want to be clear. I'm not complaining. I'm saying this is we planned on choppy waters. It's all new gear. It's a new setup. We just need a second. We'll be all right. Well, no one's complaining to you. Don't act defensive.

I just want to be clear. I'm cool with whatever. Here's Jake. Good guy, Jake. Dish is still here. Anyway, we're at the Dallas Athletic Club. Just got to look into Blake's life. What's that?

Deal with dish problems? No. You ever let stuff soak? Julie loves that. Not the BYU soak. No, Julie loves all forms of soaking. Joining us today, Julie Dobbs. Hi.

At least for part of the program. Hello, hello, hello. There I am. We all remember her as a Dallas Stars ice girl many years ago. What? That's not what you did with the Stars? That's not what I did with the Stars. Oh, you were a Fox Sports girl.

It was Kami and Julie. I wasn't either of those things, no. What an era where they tried to push Kami and Liddy on us. Right before Me Too. Yeah, it definitely was. And then the weirdest thing about that story, I don't know if you guys recall this,

but you remember when there was like the big hack and leak of a bunch of nudes of famous people, like famous women? I do. i thought you might and it was like megan fox and uh jennifer jennifer anderson the one who's with verlander yeah kate upton and then like litty yeah no it's like sandwiched in there wasn't it was very me okay but either way it just shows you how- Why do you know that so well?

I remember the pictures. It shows you how proximity- Money belt. Money belt, yeah. Proximity makes it better. Like a news story, you're more interested in something that happened in your hometown. Or like your neighbor. Yes, yeah.

If my neighbor was on that leak, I would have been more excited. Absolutely. Yeah. That was a whole era. And I remember kind of living it from the other side of it at Fox Sports Southwest when it was kind of like, you know, people like Dana Larson and Emily Jones had been there forever and couldn't get a polo shirt to wear around. And then all of a sudden they drop in, Kami and Liddy,

and they get all the Fox sports gear they could ever want it was an interesting time it was a kind of short-lived experience but they are sweet girls do you think julie hears a lot of the complaints behind the scenes from the oh my gosh from emily or whoever theens. The old crows. They've never been in a locker room. They have longevity. They do have that. I wonder what happened to them. Not Emily and Dana.

They're fine. They're the ones that have longevity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kami and Liddy. I don't know. Let's book them.

Kami's in Utah. I follow her on the socials. Yeah. And I think Liddy's like a mom of three maybe living somewhere around here. We don't need to book her then. Moms are boring. Do you think that there were like lower level female media members? I suppose I'm playing into your EA theory here. But I thought, you know, maybe if I could get in this league.

What's the EA theory? That the keyhole is the only reason she's famous. Oh, I was thinking of EA from the ticket. No, no. Aaron Andrews. Yeah, EA of Fox Broadcasting. Yeah, it doesn't hurt. You know what I was, and Blake, you know this too.

I was shocked to find out just yesterday. Because, you know, you talk about Kardashian and put out a sex tape, and that's kind of a way to do it as well. Yeah. To get yourself a little bit famous and then ride that into whatever you are going to ride it. No pun intended. She's back full. I mean, as a Kardashian.

And then you said, write that. And I don't know. Somebody sent me yesterday. And Blake, I know you got the same thing. Because it was after Blake was imitating Antonio Brown and said something about she keep that thing hairy. Yeah. About Caitlin Clark.

Yeah. Or he was betting she keeps it hairy. Oh gosh. Yeah. She just looks as if it's Looks like the type.

Perhaps hairy. I'm not going to disagree with that. She's kind of a McPoyle too by the way. The more I look at her the more I see her face the more I'm like you probably drink a lot of milk.

Anyway I was sent a picture of Demi Moore in Playboy, like in 1983, because it's absolutely extremely hairy. Yeah, okay. No, I didn't mean, like, I did mean it, I just shouldn't

have said that. You let it out. Why are you trying to backtrack? Yeah. That's how Jake feels about Harry. Why are you looping into this story? That's okay, Jake. Because the same guy that sent you the picture sent it to me. They knew not to send it to me, I guess. Yeah, I've gotten that picture more than once.

Why are y'all getting these pictures of Demi Moore's Harry? We get weird emails. See, I thought you were going to bring up, you know how like Jimmy Football will send us or used to whenever we had ticket emails? Yeah. And he would – any sports event that happened, he would send you updated odds. So Kevin Durant goes to the Suns. How did that change the championship odds? Or first coach to be fired in the NFL, blah, blah, blah.

I got like a form email from a PR agency regarding Hawk to a Girl. Oh, okay. With a bunch of odds. Hawk to a Girl, Hayley Welch, odds on to pose nude in Playboy, minus 110. She's favored? Yeah. Appear on OnlyFans or create an OnlyFans. Playboy's still a thing?

I thought it wasn't. I thought they killed the print version at least. Create an OnlyFans, minus 250. I would put a lot on that. Appear in sex tape, plus 200. Okay. But the fact is, somehow you can... You can bet on a Hawk to a girl. Yes.

And this guy sent this email exactly like it was, you know, Dak Prescott's next team. Like, it's exactly the same as the emails we've gotten about every sports odds. That's where we are today. You can bet on how many Instagram followers she'll have on December 31st, 2024. Okay. Yeah. I think it'll die down

by then, don't you think? Well, there's one way to keep it from dying down. It's those stuff the things that I mentioned in the previous round of odds. She'll probably ride it as long as she can. Okay. So we're at the Dallas Athletic Club. The reason Julie is here

is because she is a member. I'm so fancy. I'm so fancy. We're totally loaded. It is very high-toned. I went through the locker room trying to find my way to the bathroom. That takes a while. Did you pass the wine cellar?

Is there a wine cellar? All the lockers have gold-plated names on them, so you know which locker. I'm just used to 24-hour fitness where I try to, like, 12. You know, locker. I'm just used to 24-hour fitness where I try to like 12. Yeah. You know, locker 12. Yeah. But no, these are. They're fancy.

They're awesome. And then you can go in there and shave and shower. Yeah. And they got the combs in the thing and the. It's incredible. Mouthwash. It continues our streak of being places that we don't belong for sure. And this is probably the highest level of that.

And when I walked in, in one of the main dining halls, I think there was a child's birthday happening. And they looked like they were all having a great time. But I got mad briefly because I'm like, one of these sons of bitches is going to be my boss. Absolutely. If you're lucky. Yeah. At best, my kid's boss. Just start going in there kissing ass right away.

Yes, sir. Hand him my business card. Like an eight-year-old. I can tell you from personal experience, they do have everything you would need to take a shower here. Ooh. You took a club shower today? No, you didn't.

You grabbed a shower? Warren and I hit the links this morning. Oh, you did. Look at you. See, I thought he was here pretty early. We had a call hit the links this morning. Oh, you did. Look at you. See, I thought he was here pretty early. Like, we had a call this morning at like 8.30, and I'm like, I know he has to set up early. Yeah, I thought it was here to help set up with Rob for the live stream. Maybe we're learning a little bit.

So Rob is in here by himself. Maybe we're learning a little bit more about the disaster that was the start of the show. I wouldn't call it a disaster. I think it's just a figuring out process. Yeah, we didn't even play the open. We had an open prepped and ready, and you edited it. I think we got off on a- Rob was having to do two jobs because he's out there getting up and down.

Okay. Yeah, had you been in here earlier, the open would have run smooth. I don't think we can prove that. I've already been able to tell. So y'all have been doing this for a while, and I've only popped in once, twice, I don't know, whatever. Y'all are very much a dysfunctional family. whatever y'all are very much um a dysfunctional family and in a dysfunctional family you have to let the husband or you know the person who's doing a lot of the work take some time away to golf to

keep them happy and that's what blake did this morning and so there's a little bit of a mistake to kick off the show the happiness that blake got out of his round of golf this morning now we're learning about her home life right yeah, yeah. She's been trained well. Way to go, Kelly. It's more important than that little glitch, okay? It's going to take him further along down this road of this y'all's little dysfunctional family.

And he showered here. Than that little problem. Better than not. Yeah, I'm sitting right next to you, so I appreciate it. It's just an aggressive play. Did you bring an apple? They probably have an apple for you. Yeah, I have a post-show apple and a protein drink. They probably could have hooked you up with both of those things.

How'd you hit it? Could I have had a post-show apple? For your little lunchbox with butterflies. Yeah, they've got apples, buddy. Post-show apple and protein drink. I bet they have a fridge you can put it in. You think? Well, I have a cooler right there. Yeah, Warren Sibley is the man.

You may recognize him from sitting in the den. Is this our first ever double 690? Probably Seen. Although every 690 is double. Oh, Seen, yeah. He's been involved. But yeah, I think he's the first repeat customer. Okay.

And Scene, of course. We call that retention. We do? I don't know. We're learning business words, Julie. I know. Oh, dude. I'm so proud of y'all.

I am too. I wish I wrote it down. We were in a business meeting yesterday. It was a sales thing, and Blake had some business terms I was really proud of. Good job. Do you remember? I don't remember the terms. You were involved.

I was impressed with Blake in the sales meeting yesterday. Yeah, he was shortening some business terms. It was pretty awesome. Got to have some synergy. I think he just wanted to impress Kelly. Who doesn't? And you could tell she was. And we had just listened to the JJ Reddick press conference where they're just throwing all those terms around.

Yeah. I don't know the ability. Probably it would not be possible to see Warren. But famously, I believe he looks like if John Cena weren't a wrestler. Here, we have a headset. We'll throw that on there. Oh, yeah. I was the first one.

Yeah, you look like a non-steroided version of John Cena with roids he's an action hero an action hero? yeah literally the next week here someone said

you look just like John Cena it's like Joe Thomas yeah when he stopped playing but then I googled him it's not like saying you look just like John Cena. It's like Joe Thomas six months after retiring. But then I googled him and it's not like saying you look like Brad Pitt. Well, no. I mean, he's a bankable Hollywood star. That's a pretty big deal. He gets more on Moxie than looks, right?

He's getting tail left and right, bro. Do you know that for a fact? It's better than Rudy. It's better than if I said you look like Rudy. And you get to look like him without being the guy that they send to kids who are dying. Huh? Isn't that one of Shane's bits? He's a very popular make-a-wish option for a 10-year-old.

If things are going poorly, John Cena is probably the Grim Reaper. I thought he said it was for his retired cousin or brother. I think that's related. Sometimes there's an early exit. Interesting. Warren just gets to be a member of Dallas Athletic Club

and golf with Blake. Warren is a previous president of the Dallas Athletic Club. Were you really? I was. Wow. Are you upset that I'm mentioning this? I mean, were you voted in or appointed?

We can't dump it. We're going live here. Voted. Ooh. Yeah. A little politicking? Was there any? That has to get a little bit tricky. It's not as highfalutin as it sounds.

I just know with school boards and stuff, there's always... Yeah. It's got to be everywhere. Even the... Youth Association? No, the present... Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

I've been involved in that. The Neighborhood Association. Yeah, like the HOA. You get elected for that, right? Yeah. And anybody I've ever talked to that's been involved in that thinks it's a huge beating by the time they're done with it. Yeah.

Don't know why anybody would want to do it. Because they're tired of somebody else telling them what to do. In better shape than where you found it? I think so. It's in great shape right now. That's all you really want to do is build a program and a culture. According to Jim Schlossnagel. I believe he had a rough road because he was involved

while you created the pandemic. I did. Aw man, it was you? It was me. Like he was in the 20s. It's kind of like if you know someone who's a college student in 2020. Yeah. People are like, oh, man, that must have sucked.

Yeah, it did. No. I bet it was no great thing to be in charge of the Dallas Athletic Club. During the coronavirus outbreak. Yeah. Just trying to navigate those. Yeah. Forget about political waters in here.

Just out there. Is it cool if we walk around when we're done? Yes. Y'all don't need to be so scared of it. Will they know we're not members? No. Because I wore my... I don't know.

I got some... I wore my country club shorts. You did? Yeah, you got some color on. Doesn't this look good? And you can swim in those too. Yeah, you fit in. Shut up.'t this look good? And you can swim in those, too. Yeah, you fit in. Shut up.

Y'all can come swimming with me and my kids after this if you want. We'll have fun. I keep a suit in the car, so I can hop out there. Go down the water slides. I peeked in through the fence like the little kids do in Manhattan for Christmas in the Christmas movies, and they peeked there. It's like, I'll never be involved in that. But I looked through the gate at the pool, and I thought, man, that looks special.

It would be great. I think we'd have to marry someone or something. You think? Get adopted by somebody. Well, I think it probably starts with – Like Warren. Y'all are crazy. I think it probably starts with not quitting a job that resulted in you making

less than half or less than a third that resulted in you making less than half or less than a third of what you were making before. I know, man. Like I'm following this Aggie baseball story. Yeah. And this guy left his job, and it was controversial, and it's in the news and everything. And it's because he's going to make like three times as much money.

Yeah. And just ever since we left, I've been following different stories and that seems to be the pattern. That we didn't, like why didn't we we should have done that part of it. Yeah, we forgot. The part where you leave and it's controversial and some people hate you, but then you can say

well I have this giant you know, cushion of money to fall on. A golden parachute. Yeah. Yeah, we just got a parachute. We didn't, I don't know if we got that. Barely got that, dude. You're building your parachute, though. You're building it, and that's cooler than just having one handed to you. Yeah, I guess, but we're building it as we're falling.

Just hoping that it'll catch you before you die. Can we build it in time before it hits the ground? And that's tough to do. But it's a lot easier with Blake throwing around business terms on Business Wednesday. That was great work, dude. You killed it. Way better work than prepping this show today, I would have to say. I think this show is going great.

He hit them well, though. He hit them well, he said. We're live. And he's clean. On Twitter. Kalashaw's a member here. Really? The list of people is Dallas royalty has got to be.

We're going to see him soon. Shouldn't they just offer us memberships? Just because we're cool bros? We've got a former president here. We're kind of riffraff, though, you know? I know, but look at all the positive pub we can give them. And we can make them all look better by being here, like us out on the links. Anyway, so on today's program.

I don't know. We will have Sarah Heppola. We only have a spot for one female, so apparently Julie said she'll leave when Sarah gets here, right? Yeah, only room for one token female. Midway show? Midway through the show? Yeah, I'll leave around one when she heads in here because I gotta pick up my son from golf

camp. Yeah, and we don't want you guys to be in this. Make fun of us. Make fun of us. Golf camp? He's killing it. He's so excited. It's really fun. Plays ice hockey. Golf camp He's killing it He's so excited It's really fun Plays ice hockey Golf camp I know

The two things that were too expensive For me to do as a child Yeah And we can't have Sarah And her in here Too long together Because we don't want them to sink up No that would

There could be a tsunami here What do you think that takes Jake? 15 minutes? 20 minutes? How do you just pass each other No, that would be a tsunami here. What do you think that takes, Jake? 15 minutes? 20 minutes? You just pass each other and you stand too close. The intern's in trouble. Some sort of magnetic field, so we're already synced. Report back.

Yeah, the bears might come get us all. Don't need too many females in one little room. Golf camp. Yeah. See, Sarah will be here. We talk about the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader show. Are you watching it? Not yet.

You need to. It just came out, right? Yeah, but my wife will get – I'm not really a binge guy, but my wife will get obsessed with something. And I'll wake up to go to the bathroom at 3 o'clock in the morning. And I can see the light on her phone. And I'm like, well, I don't think she's texting somebody else, but let me look over and see what's up. And it's just her plowing through all seven episodes of The Cheerleader Show in like two days.

And they're an hour long. I can't, I'm not that guy. No,'re an hour long. I can't. I'm not that guy. No, I'm not either. So many people do that. I've never really been like that. Yeah, just I kind of feel like you need a little hang time to think about the show. Maybe that's a show that you don't.

But I mean, would you ever sit there and watch a 10-hour movie? No. No. So how do you watch 10 episodes in a row? Yeah. But people do. I think Brunig watched it all in one day. Yeah.

Matt Brunig, who you think of as the most put-together, smart dude in the world, and he's like, yeah, but I love this show. The kids are at camp. You got a little time if the kids are at golf camp. Yeah. But I guess then you'd have to skip. Equestrian camp. I think then you'd have to skip tennis.

Yeah, do you want to hit them straight in tennis? You know what? I have no idea. I probably don't. Angles usually tend to work out better if you hit a good angle and they can't return it. Were you playing teams today? Doubles?

It was USTA doubles. Yeah. And my match was not here. It was at Canyon Creek. So I went from club to club today. You have road games? doubles. Yeah. And my match was not here. It was at Canyon Creek. So I went from club to club today. You have road games? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Road games. They have 500 courts here. Well, these courts were full with all of the DAC ladies that had home matches. You know what I mean? No. There's lots of different teams. Okay.

A lot of ladies playing tennis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Does it mean that you're, does it make you uniquely positioned to just kill at pickleball? It doesn't translate as much. It helps a little bit like,

you know, the hand eye and that kind of thing. But no, it doesn't help because you just want to swing your racket and you're not supposed to because pickleball is all about dinking and just trying to dink it over the net and I want to take a big swing and all that, but pickleball is pretty fun. I'm trying to play pickleball too. Really? You're trying to incorporate it?

I'm trying to do both. Yeah. Y'all, I mean, I got fired. We're pushing against it. I've got time. But I feel like we're going to end up there. Playing? I mean, I pushed against softball for many, many years

and then ended up doing it. I know that you guys accuse me of being a John Kerry level flip-flopper because I once decided to watch Game of Thrones. But I've been saying for 20 years, really 30 years, I'll never play golf. And I've held strong on that. You have. You're putting now.

It's in the backyard. What does that mean? But that's a small step. It is your putting. The rent house we have has like a – It's a gateway. It's extremely small. It's the gateway.

Maybe six by six little putting things. Because if you can master your short game first, it's easier to develop, you know. I could be almost like a hired gun for best ball or scramble. Scramble, yeah. You'd be a good scramble guy. Yeah, because you could just call me in as a specialist. Yeah. Like a left-handed one-out guy.

You're already putting for dough. What time did you start playing today? We hit the range about 7.30 and then teed off about 810. Got a solid 12 holes of golf in. 12 holes? They did what they could. Could have played 18, but for the show. Oh, you got back here? Decided to give

Rob some help. I'm sure he appreciated that. But no, I'm never going to play golf. I don't know about that. It's too late. What if Cameron Brink asked you to play golf? I would then take up golf lessons. Immediately. Got to do what you got to do.

Immediately. Although it would be a lot easier for me to start now because for a long time, the only reason I would say that I would never play is because Bob would say, eventually you're going to play. And now he wouldn't be able to make fun of me. Yeah, you got to stop. That's right. He's not allowed to. to make fun of me. Yeah, you got to stop. That's right. He's not allowed to.

Yeah, I mean, he's publicly. Yeah, he's literally banned. He's allowed to talk to you in life, isn't he? Well, you would absolutely be made fun of via text. Yeah, that's not as bad. Right, just not on the air. Yeah. So before we get to sports, because we have plenty of sports today,

don't you worry? Quite a bit. Did you give away your blink tickets? I did. I did. You know what? I'm going to pull up that guy's message. That sounds great.

Are you actually going to read it? He's a guy who's like about my age, and he was the first one to hit me up, and I said, hey, you've got to answer this DM in 15 minutes. I definitely need you to go because I don't want to give this away. Then you decide, oh, I got a kid thing or something like that. I could tell right away that he was just over the moon. He told me that, hey, I've wanted to see him my whole life. Never got a chance.

Then they stopped touring for a really long time. He sent me this really sweet message about like hey i've been listening to bob and dan since they first got together i would record their shows on the cassettes to listen in the car when you came along it was so cool watching someone my age work their way up at the station blah blah blah seriously thank you so much and then he was dming me during the show. And just him. Were you like, that's a bit much? Well, I think he said, I was asleep. Tap the brakes.

Yeah, but he sent me a cool picture. And yeah, he was just like, this was incredible. Thank you so much. I turned 40 in a couple weeks. I checked something off my list. It's been on there since a few decades ago. Best thing I could have ever hoped for. Y'all are killing it.

And you've earned a fan that'll stand by the show no matter what allegations come out. Oh, wow. Which is kind of ominous. That's nice of him to say. But, yeah. He shed a tear like I did the last time I saw him. We're probably, both you and I, are on most people's Bonds list, right?

Yeah, come on. The Griffey Bonds list? It could be anything, yeah. You know the Griffey Bonds list, right? Yeah, come on. The Griffey Bonds list? It could be anything, yeah. You know the Griffey Bonds list? Uh-uh. So basically it has to do with when steroid allegations were thrown out. Yeah. If I had learned that Ken Griffey Jr. had been roiding up all these years,

that would have devastated me because he's always seemed like the purest whatever. He's a natural athlete. He doesn't stretch, whatever. And then when you found out Barry Bonds used steroids, you're like, oh, okay. No kidding. Makes sense. Yeah. I mean, look at him.

His head is twice as big as it was when he was a rookie, all that kind of stuff. So it's the Griffey Bonds list. If I say a name and you heard that, if I just say a name, you think which list are they on? Tom Grieve. He would not be on the Bonds list. He would be on the Griffey list. He's a Griffey.

That's the exact name I was just thinking of. Yes. He's just a pure, perfect guy. You know, yeah. We synced it. We sat too close to each other. Yeah. Okay, so the Griffey list and the Bonds list. Dan and Jake. Okay We synced up. We sat too close to each other. Yeah. Okay, so the Griffey List and the Bonds List.

Dan and Jake. Okay. Uh-huh. Bonds. Bonds. Like, if you just heard... No. It's not about steroids, but if you heard...

No, I'm sorry. Anything where you're like, oh, you shouldn't have done that. If you heard that I got busted soliciting a prostitute or something, you'd be like, all right. I mean, I'm not saying it's out of the realm. Yeah. Uh-huh. For sure.

If you heard that Jake got pulled over and they found drugs in his car. Yeah. I mean, it's Jake. Yeah. Bonds. Bonds. Yeah. Yeah.

If we heard that Julie got busted in a sex ring. Oh. Griff. She's a Griffey. There's no way I would think that now we'd be fired up. But he is. He booked me for the tell-all real quick. Griffey.

Yeah, Warren's a Griffey. Look at this guy. He's well put together. He's got a collar shirt. Unless it's like money laundering or embezzlement. I feel like- White collar crime, I think you can't figure that in here, right? Because sometimes that's not your fault.

You can still be a Griffey. You can embezzle. Tom Greaves a Griffey, but he could get caught up in some sort of scheme where he didn't totally understand what his financial advisor was doing. You know what I mean? Intern Rachel? Boy, I'm not sure yet. Okay, I'm going Griffey.

BL? Bonds. Bonds. BL Brett Lever has joined us today as well. Sarah Heppola? Previously a Bonds, probably now a Griffey. But because of the previous Bonds, she's on the Bonds list. Yeah, maybe B.O.'s right.

Maybe it's a once a Bonds. Yeah, if she fell off the wagon, we'd be like, all right, I mean, geez, that happens. Like I could start going to church and completely clean my life up and I would still a Bonds. You're still on the Bonds list. There's no way., and I would still- You're still on the bonds list. There's no way. It's a good point. You're still you at your core. It's a good point.

Where do we start with that? How did we get there? I don't know. Because this guy sent me an email or a DM where he's like, hey, I'll support the show no matter the allegations. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Brandon Keller is his name.

All right. Well, what's up, Brandon? And you didn't accept money for these tickets. I did not. It's a gift to a listener. You're a gift giver. So thoughtful. That's right.

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You don't have any... I didn't do live spots for them, but other people at my station did. They're based in Dallas is the answer. Yeah. I thought that was going to be the layup. Yes, Dallas. Duh. The phone I thought that was going to be the layup. Yes, Dallas. Duh.

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I don't think that's our top story or anything. No. But it's now day two is going to be like today during the day boy how bad will those ratings be i mean incredibly bad like i don't know that most people are watching the second round of the nba draft after the first round when they were in the same night i believe the reason is the debate ah okay, okay. Oh, okay. They saw the debate and said, let's just do it in the afternoon. Then why don't they just do them both on the same night like they always did? I do not have the answer to that.

You know what this is? This is not knowing your role. Because they saw the NFL be able to squeeze every bit of blood out of the turnip and thought, you know, maybe we could try that. Except no one gives an F about some kid from Serbia that's going to be stashed overseas for five years at pick 53 that no one's ever heard of. Most people haven't heard of people outside of the top 10.

Yeah. Including Stephen A. Smith, who was covering the draft. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't hear it, but I saw a bunch of people saying, who was covering the draft. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't hear it, but I saw a bunch of people saying, like, this is awesome. It's like when they make Barkley do college basketball, and you just helicopter in. That's the problem with when you pay him $18 million or $25 he's now looking for

or something like that. You've got to put him on something. He's got to be on everything is what I'm saying, and he is. But, you know, it's – He can do no wrong, though. He can say whatever he wants, and people will love him, and he doesn't have to prep or research or anything. It's true.

How are the ratings like on his daily show? It's really weird that he does get that much money, but it's not like he's a primetime TV. But it's not like he's a primetime TV. Thinking about him and us a little bit, because there are threats. If ESPN doesn't pony up $25 million for him, that he could go start his own thing.

And he could, but could he make $25 million from that? Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. I don't know the appetite for Stephen A. Smith. McAfee proved that on the outside, he was a YouTube star. Would Stephen A. Smith garner that if he did his own YouTube thing? He would definitely be very successful,

but he's not making $25 million a year. This is an ESPN press room release, so take it for what it's worth. But they do have decent numbers, and they've been up year to year for the last four or five years. And now you've got to put in your YouTube, which was up 12% from the year before. So, you know, I think it's somewhat you and I have a generational disconnect with, like this is on in every college dorm room just like we would watch SportsCenter seven straight times. Do you like Stephen A? When we were in college. Me? No.

No, but I'm more talking guys who are like 25. And Blake's a little, plays a little over his age. Yeah, but he's, often he's different than us. I was a big SportsCenter guy, especially late at night. I loved Stuart A. Scott and Stuart A. Scott. But no, this daytime TV

with Kendrick Perkins and whatever, no, that's horrible. I do want to tell you a little bit about one of the guys that was drafted. This is where we'll have the video, Rob. I'm going to play a little audio first. This is Jared McCain from Duke. And he went to

pick 16 to Philadelphia. And he did a little interview afterward. You know, the little walk-off interview. And he was there with his brother. It was kind of a cool moment. I looked up to see, does his brother play? Or does he maybe want to meet meet john cena but i couldn't find if he's he you know what i mean i couldn't find if he was sick i didn't know why he was there but it was kind of a cool moment and then they dropped this which i was unaware of it means everything to me

man he worked so damn hard for this and i'm just blessed to be a part of this journey and it's such a big part of my purpose as a person so it's everything to me now much has been made of your two million plus TikTok following right but now you're starting your NBA career okay so that's now something that they talk to draft prospects about when they walk off not just hey, hey, your family, your mom. It was so hard. He's got 2.8 million followers on TikTok. And it's very TikTok. We have a video.

This is the first thing he shot after the draft. So you can kind of get a flavor for what he does. But he basically just dances. And everybody was making fun of him last night. Like, Joel Embiid's going to be yelling, all right, let's lock in, guys. And he's over here hitting the whip and the nay-nay. Can we play it?

Is that possible? This is after he was drafted. Right after. In front of the draft backdrop. He just pranced through. This is a first, right? I would have to say so. The first TikTok

draft pick? Yeah. I mean, all the guys have accounts. Whether they post on TikTok or not. What is he doing? Maybe post a picture on Instagram. But that's what this guy does. Is the GM instantly calling around for trades right now? Yeah.

A little, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like a celebratory dance? Okay. Boy, you think Jimmy Butler's not going to bring that up? Oh, my gosh. When he's defending him in the post? Okay, so this is the thing with these TikTok people that dance

and get really famous for it. Like, they're not good at dancing. Right? Yeah, I have heard dance people say that before. But it doesn't matter anymore. Because, you know, I mean, it's the same thing as when we were talking to Mike Peska about Twitch. And you'll see some kid who's got 8 million followers doing basically a talk show. And they're not good.

They're not good at communicating. They're not good at having a conversation. But 8 million people watch them and they make way more than I'll make ever. They're not good at communicating. They're not good at having a conversation. But 8 million people watch them and they make way more than I'll make ever. You know who baffles me the most? Do you know the Montana boys? I don't know anything about TikTok. Unless it ends up on Twitter or the guy sells cars. It's the guy that is now dating Kristen Cavallari.

He's like a million times younger than her. He's like, I don't know, 10 years younger than her. Jay Cutler's ex. Yeah. So she saw him on TikTok. He was one of the Montana boys. It's like these three guys and they're from Montana. I might have seen this.

They're like cowboys who dance. Yes, and that's all they do. Like they don't sing. They literally, they stand in a line. One of them does this to the camera and then they go to the back of the line and the next one does this to the camera how do you think they spell boys yeah i was just about to say you know you know god fz right a hundred percent yeah yes they're all ripped oh gosh it's just terrible but i can see it like it's kind of addicting when you start

watching their videos and then you're like why am i staring at this they make more than we do right now and they just started. And now he's really dating Kristen Cavallari, and he's probably floated. We know business stuff. Oh, you guys have to explore the Montana boys and report back to me. No, thank you. Well, the good thing about that, Blake, is that it wouldn't be you guys.

Yeah, it would be me. You're done golfing. Oh, yeah. Here's a dance you can watch. Yeah, no. Yeah. Okay. We were just watching that one.

Do you want a little twisted tea there, Montana boys? Twisted tea, 100% paying them. Yes. It's insane. To drink them on camera. Yep. Yeah. So, anyways, that's the NBA now.

We would drink something. And every 20-year-old guy has this haircut. It's really short on the sides. It's almost like a curly mullet. I think Jake is right. They get perms. It's true. Not everybody has hair naturally that curly.

Now we're longing for the days of tattoos and cornrows. Maybe a gun. I don't know. Longing for the days of tattoos and cornrows. Maybe a gun. Yeah, just like... I don't know. Maybe you've got two, three kids by two, three different women. And those are the knocks on you. What people older than us were complaining about the tattoos back in the day. If they only saw this.

Yeah. They'd be like, bring back the gun. He's got an earring. I can see his underwear. Yes, that was the big one. That was my grandma. He needs to pull his pants up. Oh, man.

So that's our NBA draft coverage, I guess. Okay, and later today. Y'all destroyed. Who takes, if anyone takes? Day two is a bigger day of the draft. So actually, they might get okay ratings. Well, people will definitely at least keep track

of whatever's happening at the end. For sure. Yeah, Bronny. When does it start? Will we find out during the live stream? Oh, there's no way to know. I mean, look. The Lakers are at 55. The Mavericks are at 58. And Rich Paul's already planted the seed of like oh I mean look the Lakers are at 55 the Mavericks are at 58 and Rich Paul's already planted the seed of like hey if the Lakers don't take him the Mavs will

I mean there are a few things you already got Zeke back I don't know that the Mavs take him because if the Mavs are being marked run by Mark Cuban the Mavs take him. Man, I heard somebody say that the other day and you're probably right, but I didn't know that Nico Harrison had that close of a relationship with LeBron and the family. Rich Paul's not just saying, oh, he's basically like Bronny's uncle

if it's not true. Yeah, Rich Paul wouldn't say anything that wasn't true. You're not publicly going to put Nico's name out there like that, I don't think, but who knows. If his name was not Brawny, he would not be getting drafted. Do you want to move on to this week in Aggie baseball? I'm obsessed.

Isn't it hilarious? It's all awesome. So Jim Schlossnagel, who used to be the coach at TCU. Good dude. Worst last name ever. I figured you'd probably say that, Blake. I thought you'd say he sucks because didn't he screw over TCU? He left the program in good hands, and he went to a top-notch program.

But of all the coaches I've interacted with, especially at coaches' shows, like, he's legit a good guy. Oh, okay. Nice. And he was there for, like, 18 years, which I didn't realize. I listened to his whole press conference today, and at one point he said, you know, I'm 50 years old. And I'm like, oh, I thought he was a little bit older than that. And then he said, you know, my 18 years at TCU. I'm like, did he get hired at 32?

Yeah, I guess so. 33? That seems really weird to me for baseball. Baseball seems like the sport where they hire old coaches more. Guys that look like him. Exactly. Obviously, he left A&M and was hired by Texas pretty much immediately after the last pitch of the College World Series, which Texas A&M lost.

And he's a baseball coach, so he's all red-assed. And there were already rumors out there after Texas had moved on from their coach that this is the job that he was going to take. He was going to go to Austin. So this is the first clip that went viral was him talking right after they lost. With the rumors circulating today about a specific job opening, what do you have to say about your future in Aggieland? Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty selfish of you to ask me that question,

to be honest with you. But I left my family to be the coach at Texas A&M. I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again. By the way, I don't know what he means by that. Why couldn't they just move? Did he divorce his wife? There's no way, right? I don't think so, unless he just didn't want to uproot his kids

from Fort Worth or something. I left my family. That's probably what it is. He just didn't want them to move. Maybe. Because they had been going to school there. He was there for a long time. It's not that big of a move, though. You. Because they had been going to school there. He was there for a long time.

It's not that big of a move, though. You hear about- Fort Worth to College Station. Right, but you hear about hockey players or whatever that don't want to move their family from Minnesota to California or whatever. But within Texas, they probably would have figured it out. You can know your kids. Yeah, that makes more sense. Or when they're in 12th or 11th grade or whatever.

Yeah, it depends on the age and stuff. At the same time, though. But it made it sound like he got divorced. I know. And just will never talk to his kids again because he thought the Aggie job was so great. Yeah. I left my family to be the coach at Texas A&M. I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.

And that hasn't changed in my mind. That's unfair to talk about something like that. That'd be like you asking Montgomery if he's going to sign in the draft. Okay, well, first of all, that's one of their players. That would actually be an entirely normal question for a guy who's like, yeah, you're going to ask, hey, are you going to come back or are you going to go to the draft? And this is also an entirely normal question, especially considering what just happened. Montgomery, if he's going to sign in the draft. But I understand you've got to ask the question,

but I gave up a big part of my life to come take this job, and I've poured every ounce of my soul in this job, and I've given this job every single ounce I can possibly give it. Write that. Write that down, Blake. That was his write that down. Very Kim Mulkey, you know? Just nobody, and that's a guy from Tech Sags.

All these college coaches are very, they're the same way. They are in control of everything. You know, that's why they hate an NIL, because actually the players have a little bit of control now, and you can't be a total a-hole. Yeah, and it's weird. With Kim Mulkey, at least she was taking aim at the left-wing mainstream or whatever Washington Post coming in and thinking they know what's up.

This is a guy from Tex-Ags who's probably just written puff piece after puff piece about Schlossnagel the whole time he's been there. And he's like, right. You can just tell he's getting really defensive because he knows what's happening. Because he knows it's already happening. He's like, oh, crap. I wasn't prepared to answer this question.

In fact, they were like, I've seen rumors about like a burner phone that he was recruiting players. One of his former players, and this is a wild thing to tweet if you don't really have any proof, but former Aggies outfielder J.B. Moss said, One of his former players, and this is a wild thing to tweet if you don't really have any proof, but former Aggies outfielder J.B. Moss said, more will come out, but recruiting kids to Texas from burner phones while playing in the national championship is all-time greasy. Oh, man.

But guess what? He's right. I would believe it. Yeah. So we'll get to his apology to that reporter at the end, but I had a couple of other clips in here I wanted to play for you, including a Dan favorite. Yeah, good morning.

What an awesome day. Super thankful and humbled. Oh, okay. Is this his Texas press conference? Yeah, so now we're going to go to his Texas intro press conference where he does end up apologizing, but that's a long clip. But he's humbled by $8 million a year or whatever he's going to get. He does it a couple times.

Super thankful and humbled by this opportunity to be the baseball coach at the University of Texas. I want to thank Texas A&M. This wasn't obviously a move from one school to another school. This is a great rivalry, and I couldn't be more thankful. And what else? And humbled by the support that I got there, that we got there. Yeah.

Humble by the support? So you were humbled that they doubled your pay from what you were making in Fort Worth? Yeah. That's the support you got. But that's the opposite of humbled. Like if somebody tripled my pay or whatever, I'm feeling like I'm kind of a badass

if I'm this wanted. Yeah. Like, leave your job and make half of what you made before? Pretty humbling. That's costly humbling. This is a favorite from, this is an old Bad Radio bit.

You know who their athletic director is, obviously. Thank you to President Hartzell, Chairman Eltyfe. And? Of course, my man, CDC. CDC. That's McConaughey's man, too. Bless the mood with CDC. And a guy who once upon a time, I think I was the board op.

I think I'd moved up from the top 10, but Bad Radio was doing a show in Fort Worth. We're trying to get guests and they made Chris Del Conte, who was the athletic director there at the time available and Gribble sold it to Bob and Dan with he's really funny. He's really funny. You guys are going to love him. So first of all, there's no chance. The athletic director is really funny. So we then took that to cutting up every answer he gave

and putting laugh tracks behind it. Like a Seinfeld theme. Gribble's just sitting over there so beaten. And the answers are, yes, we look forward to playing. We're committed to culture. He was not that personality filled. We'll make him funny. He also, and God, he sucks because he also was stolen away by Texas.

Yeah. Right? And had his set. Like, Texas, all they're doing is money-whipping everybody. Chris Beard. If you can, then great. But don't act like, you know, you're anything. I don't know, man.

It's just all the, oh, but the culture here and the tradition. The city of Austin. No, it has nothing to do with any of that. No. You got money-whipped. Players or coaches, really. Yeah, for sure. The players for sure. I didn coaches, really. Yeah, for sure. The players for sure.

I didn't cut this part off, but he did say, like, there's the three most important things when recruiting. Number one, what's the quality of my diploma? And I'm like, well, that's horseshit. Number two, like, player development, I guess. And number three, I think, might have been the city. Or winning in Omaha was number three. He made winning the last thing.

Player development is probably one of the hot – money, player development, because you want to develop to get more money. And you want to win. And the pros. But do you see CDC, though? The other reason he sucks is because now he's, like, scoreboarding the rest of the world. Did you see he put out a Twitter post of a cemetery?

Do you know the story? No, I guess not. That apparently he knew he couldn't be seen in College Station on Tuesday. So he hung out at a cemetery. Snook Cemetery.

For like three hours as Schloss was traveling back from the college world series once they got back he was there and he drove to his house to meet him yeah that's that's one really creepy and but he tweeted out he tweeted out that picture with the horns up that apple has somehow deemed it's worthy yeah i think I think they did something similar. I think he did something similar when they hired Chris Beard because they met halfway between Lubbock and Austin at a McDonald's. And people, I think, put together, maybe they were seen there or something,

but it was in the middle of nowhere in Texas. Okay, so that's why he had to pick the cemetery? After they hired Chris Beard, he, I believe, tweeted out a picture of the receipt from their meal at McDonald's. Like two sandwiches and two coffees. Just like, yeah. That's just lame. I definitely won't punch my wife.

You forgot that part. You forgot to clear that part up. Blake's been. This is an interesting one. She broke his glasses, Dan. Oh, so you're just saying there was a reason. This is an interesting one. The reason he gave.

In light of what we dealt with. Glasses are expensive these days. They really are. They really are. Thanks, Biden and J.O. I'm going to get an eye exam. Biden did this. So, yes, like I said, this last clip before the real walk off

is great considering what we dealt with with Blake today lastly to the Longhorn fans we need you please know that this is not a job for me this is a lifestyle

okay I work I don't play golf I don't hunt yeah so he's like look I got nothing but work on my mind I don't golf. I don't hunt. Yeah, so he's like, look, I got nothing but work on my mind. I don't golf.

Yeah. Here's Blake. Yeah. Playing in a quick 12. Plays golf before the show once. Boring dude. Yeah, I mean, it is before the show once, but it's also like the most technically difficult thing we've ever tried to pull off.

And look at us. We're just sailing. But at least you got right off the course and just showed up here all sweaty. He smells great, actually, so I don't think so. Oh, you actually took yourself a nice... I did that for y'all. Get a little steam. Maybe a little massage.

Me and Kelly hung out in the sauna. A little steam. All right, this is really long, and we don't have to play the whole thing, but obviously after he snapped at Texag's guy the other day, he immediately knew how bad that was going to print, and especially that he's already going to be public a-hole number one. Don't you think it's weird that he says that wow note? Like, he knew. Of course he knew.

It's not like they just offered him the job after. Well, that's why he did it, because he knows deep down, like, I'm doing something that people are going to be really mad at me about, so I'm going to overreact. You know, people do that all the time, I think. So just doth protest too much type thing, you know? Yeah, and I guess in the end it doesn't matter. The check still cashes. Yeah, but I also think he knew that it looked really bad for him,

and probably a conversation with CDC happened where they thought, you know, we're going to have to address this. We're going to get asked about it. Um, so here that is. Uh, yeah.

Coach. I was going to go Olin Buchanan, techsags.com. Welcome. Thank you. Um, coach, uh,

on Monday night, you said that you went to Texas A&M with the idea of it being a last job. And then you said that your, um, that your mind hadn't changed beyond that. So, number one, what changed? And then number two, what would you say to those Texas A&M people that supported you that feels like that you intentionally misled them? So, first of all, that's a much more pointed question than the one that he snapped at already.

The other one was just, what do you have to say about this? This one is like, what do you have to say to all the people that you screwed over? Yeah. Well, I didn't intentionally mislead them. Bullshit. And that's a very fair question for you to ask because that is what I said. In that moment, that's exactly how I felt. No.

At 50 years old, you've got to understand, and Chris would probably back me up on this, I love TCU. My children grew up there. What happened? Fort Worth, I was there 18 years. Somebody pay you more? And it had to be a very unique situation for me to leave that at 50 years old. I love Coach Garrido, and I hope I get to coach here for a long time,

but I don't really have any plans on coaching until 75, 78 years old. Well, I think you said you had no plans of ever leaving Texas A&M. I made that choice because it aligned both personally and professionally with what I had going on at the time, and I loved it. And I dove in with every single ounce of me to help A&M have the very best baseball program it can possibly have. And that investment lasted through the last pitch of the national championship game. What about the burners? It never wavered, not one second.

I don't care what anybody says. So you can tell where he's, you know. Aligned is a bingo for these type of things. You got to use aligned. Their culture aligned with my core values I heard core values about 10 times One of his core values is to When he leaves

He takes his entire coaching staff with him Because he had three guys In a college station that now are in Austin Chris Beard did almost the same thing A ton of their players are in the portal now too, right? Yeah. Including some of them that were tweeting out, I'd never leave here.

I'll die for this team. All these other kids that are taking advantage of the portal is ridiculous. That's because they were kind of following their coach's lead, I think. Yeah. Like, oh, he's wagging his finger in the face of the media? Well, we should do that, too. It's all bullshit. I would just like one person.

Every single outfit. One person to ever actually take less somewhere. Like, for all we hate Alex Rodriguez, he actually was going to take less money to get traded away from the Rangers back in the day. He hated it that much. He had $250 million.

He was going to take $210 million or something. Yeah. So it's like, whatever, my great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren won't go to college off of this, but everyone else will. Or, you know, that could possibly happen. The second scenario on the flip side never would. It would also be really funny if – it would definitely never happen in college, but if a coach walked out there and was like,

look, I had a chance to make generational money by leaving the job that I said I'd never leave. Right. I like it here, but I'm here because they're paying me more. Someone say that. That would be fun too. Just say it because that's the truth. Yeah. And then That would be fun too. Just say it because that's the truth. Yeah.

And then it would be fine. But it's hard to say that then also and then tell kids, oh, you can't just go anywhere for NIL. Yeah. You got to go here for this. Just like one press conference to say, like Josh Hamilton and his wife, the Angels did offer $20 million less than Seattle, but this really felt like home. But then they lied. They had to say, well, God brought us to Anaheim.

They had to throw God under the bus. And that investment lasted through the last pitch of the national championship game. It never wavered. Not one second second I don't care what anybody says as Chris likes to say we have jobs and try to run a business on other people's passion all right I don't know I don't want to hear

this he goes on for another minute a half wait Chris says that I don't know who Chris is that's that's so funny I say without it being called CDC I was a bit thrown off and confused oh yeah so that's that story it's great it's a great story I love it

it is great and especially and you love it because the Aggies got screwed of course they're going to be in the same conference now as even better

yeah it's a fantastic college sports story indeed well I think well I know it's 1259 Yeah. It's a fantastic college sports story. Indeed. Well, I think, well, I know it's 1259 if you're watching on our live stream today. If you're listening later, then I don't know what time it is. That doesn't really mean anything to you. Yeah.

But I'm only mentioning that because Julie said she has to go get her son from swimming at 1. No, no, no. Swimming. Anybody can go swimming. Others have to enjoy the luxuries of golf camp. Golf camp. It is golf camp, and it is ending, and then they go for swim time.

So you're both right. Okay, so you're going swimming. Yeah, I'm going to go meet him for swim time at the end of golf camp. So we'll be frolicking around the pool if y'all want to join when you're done. Probably coached by Michael Phelps. I love that y'all think this club is like something totally insane and exclusive and

you have to be bajillionaires to join here. She's dodging the question. Swim up bar? No, there's no swim up bar, but there's wonderful waiters and waitresses that will bring you drinks. Cabana boys. Okay. I'm going to go get a ranch water right now.

Oh, yeah, you are. You all have fun. Thanks for having me. Good to see you guys. We're handing things. We're going from Julie right to Sarah Heppola. Yeah. Is that true, Sarah?

Are you going to be on with us in the next part of the program? No. Okay. So that's what's coming up. All right. with the program? No. Okay. So that's what's coming up. All right. In 15 minutes, you guys will probably all be f***ing fine

with this, okay? So I'll just sum it up this way as fast as I can. That is the most humiliating game in the last f***ing 10 years I've been involved with. How can we f***ing get

picked on the first base? How can you do that? What the f*** is that about? What do you think you're f***ing with here? This isn't about some f***ing game. This is about lives. Don't you get it? F***ing get it?

Don't you get it? Don't you get it? Don't you get it? You don't have a choice. What I'm f***ing telling you to take, you take. Don't tell me you don't see it. You f***ing look. You understand? I don't give a s***. Like I said, 15 minutes from now, you don't give a f***.

You walk out of here, I gotta live with this motherf***ing motherf***ing embarrassing game the rest of my f***ing life. You're listening to The Dumb Zone. Died on this day in 2010. Gary Coleman, whose catchphrase was? What are you talking about, Willis? What are you talking about, Willis? What are you talking about, Willis? I thought the whatcha maybe would have made it a little something else,

so I just went really white with it. Excuse me, Willis. Might I inquire? Pardon me. William? Don't hug me. Joining us now on the live stream Sarah Heppola. We all know her from

What do you know me from? From her New York Times best-selling book where it opens with some guy Every single time laying on top of her

when she woke up from her blackout. By the way, by the way, can I tell you I was on top? I was going to say, he said that yesterday

because I was like, we need a montage of every time you've said this and he got that but I didn't want to be a creep and be like, pretty sure she was on top. I mean,

I've read that part of the book and I'm like, all right. So you were blacked out. Oh, there it is. Look, we have the book. Oh, look, that's my book. Are you currently reading it, Rob? Is that why? Yeah, it's good, isn't it? Yeah. Did I lie about

that beginning part? That sucks you in. It's a barn burner. That shows you're a great writer because you want to capture someone to say, I got to read the rest of this book. That's right. How'd she get here? And how'd she get out of it?

How many books have you read where it's like, when am I going to get to something? When are we going to, like that, not, that's the exact opposite of Sarah's book. And it's fascinating. Like a rocket ship. I'm on top of a guy and I don't know where I met him, but we're having sex. And I also told you that your book makes me feel better about your

problem drinking. Yeah, like I thought I might be on the edge, but nowhere near what this person went through. You've never woken up on top of a man? No. Yeah. As long as you haven't hit that bottom, I think you're okay. Yeah.

No, it's fantastic. Thanks. I know you from that. I know you from the Dallas Morning News. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you from your World Famous podcast as well, which I don't know the name of it, but it's not the current podcast, but the Dallas Cowboy podcast that you're on, that you put together. Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader. Oh, the World Famous podcast. That one's called America's Girls.

Okay. For Texas Monthly. And then I do a podcast with one Nancy Rommelman called Smoke Gum if you got them. And I also know you from the current, is it a Netflix series, Jake, or is it HBO? Netflix. The current documentary on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, at least episode one. Yeah. You are in there talking about stuff, Charlotte not paying cheerleaders and stuff like that.

I'm talking about stuff. That is, by the way, guys, when I checked this morning, that was the number one television show on Netflix. Yeah, same here. I don't know if it's just the algorithm or what, but it's killing it. So my first question was, do they get the idea to do this because of your podcast? And are you paid any sort of consulting fee? Okay. So these are two separate questions.

I mean, one is, you know, they've been doing a reality show called Making the Team for 16 years. And it was on CMT and like, it was like well known to the very small audience that watched CMT. I don't know the last time

you guys chilled out with some CMT. Yeah, we, I'm sure, back on the old show, Bob and Dan would play some audio from it, but we were not like

locked in on it. Right. But then it shut down in 2022 right after, do you remember the scandal where Rich Dalrymple? Do I remember? It's how we met. It's my whole bit. You've been your whole career, right?

Yeah. I got to check my notes because I feel like I was thinking this during watching this current documentary. I've only watched the first three episodes. Same. Okay, I do only watched the first three episodes. Same. Okay, I do have a note that I wrote. After watching them in the uniform fitting,

I don't support what Rich Dalrymple did, but I understand it. Okay, I disavow this podcast. Took this long. I mean, you know, that's a story for another time. I disavow this podcast. Took this long. I mean, you know, that's a story for another time when I'm not on the podcast, please. But, you know, after that, a month after that broke, because Don Van Natta wrote about it, and it had happened in 2015, but they'd kept it quiet.

And then Don Van Natta wrote about it. And then Dalrymple had just been like, okay, bye guys. And like, everybody was quiet. Anyway, after that, the Cowboys shut down making the team. Probably a wise decision at the time. At the time I'm thinking, okay, reality has gotten too real. You just don't want cameras around, which who does? Yeah.

And I just figured they were going to fold it. But what I didn't realize was that Charlotte Jones had gone to Greg Whiteley, who is the creator of Cheer, which I have been on your podcast talking about before because I wrote a cover story for Texas Monthly about Monica Aldama, the main coach from Corsicana's Navarro Junior College. Quick sidebar. If you're going to bring up Rich and Charlotte, you have to include the second leg of that story

where he was taking pictures of her skirt in the draft room. Oh, my God. I forgot about it. Yeah. I didn't. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah.

It was allegedly, I guess. Allegedly. It's all alleged, right? Well, Don wrote it, but. Well, look. The cheerleader stuff alleged, too. The's all alleged, right? Well, Don wrote it, but... Well, look... The cheerleader stuff alleged, too. The cheerleader stuff, they settled on it. The four cheerleaders that were in

the dressing room got $2.4 million split between the four of them. Okay, and they all complain they don't make a lot of money. Okay, that is inappropriate. It's Dan. No, I wouldn't expect anything different. I'm on the bombs list.

So they had already been in this reality TV show game, and I think, I suspect Charlotte Jones saw cheer and what it was doing, you know, how it became like a smash, and she was like, I want them to do that for us. So I think looking back now, they took that moment as a kind of like, you know what?

Let's sever this deal, this 16 year deal with CMT. And let's create a partnership with this guy, Greg Whiteley, who does these really high, like the gloss. It looks a lot better. It looks so much better.

I mean, it's more intimate in the sense of like you get to know the women a little bit more. It's a little bit classier. And I'll bet Netflix money is a little bit greener. I would imagine, although I wonder, you know, the thing about working with the Cowboys, you know they're famously cheap. So it's like they're giving him access.

I'm saying Netflix is paying them, though. I don't know. I feel like Netflix... They've got to be paying way more than CMT could do. Oh, yes. Okay, to be clear, yes. That's what I meant. More than CMT.

Yes, yes, yes. And my only thing was I just kind of wonder what the deal is because are the Cowboys profiting or is Greg profiting? I don't know the answers to these things. But I do know that if you're going to get in bed with the Cow is because the, like are the Cowboys profiting or is Greg profiting? I don't know the answers to these things. But I do know that if you're going to get in bed with the Cowboys in work, then you're not going to get a lot of money from them. They just don't,

they don't give it up. Yeah. I mean, I guess they, they can force your hand because you're just using the Cowboy brand, which is worth so much in its own right that you don't really have the ability to negotiate unless you're Ezek the cowboy brand, which is worth so much in its own right, that you don't really have the ability to negotiate,

unless you're Ezekiel Elliott. Right. Somehow you can get away with it. Yeah. But, you know, when you want to do a project on the cheerleaders, this is one of the reasons why a lot of people haven't done it, is because they make it really difficult with trademarking, and they're famously litigious.

Yep. That's why they take the uniform back. I was thinking about that. Oh, yeah, 100%. We were bemoaning that of like, hey, they fit famously litigious. Yep. That's why they take the uniform back. I was thinking about that. We were bemoaning that of like, hey, they fit it for you. It's a big part of your life. You can't take the iconic uniform. It's because they don't want you showing up at wherever. So, by the way, Jake. I was going to say like.

No, Jake. Doesn't Hooters do that too? You can't search and find porn with a Hooters girl, I've heard. So, those are knockoffs I've seen? Wow. Anyways. So back in the 70s. You can print anything on Etsy.

Porn shorts. Back in the 70s, there were actual incidents. I mean, the most famous one being Debbie Does Dallas. The porn Debbie Does Dallas involves a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader costume. My hands are clean on that one. They used it. Probably. Wonder what Antonio Brown

would say about that. Too much. They used the marketing for that movie was that they pretended like she was an ex-Cowboys cheerleader. But she was probably just using the uniform

of another former cheerleader. Bambi Woods is her name. R.I.P. Indeed. Yeah. And the other thing that happened was that there was a couple of incidences where cheerleaders would show up at strip clubs in the uniform and make a ton of money.

Yeah. And one of them got written up in the Dallas Morning News, and then I think they took legal action. But the most famous one was in Playboy when the former cheerleaders went topless. With the uniform. Well, they did an imitation of the uniform. Okay. But all of this made it so that they really, like they signed you in, they signed you out.

You couldn't hold on to it. They were not going to take any chances. Interesting. There's another Playboy spread. I remember, let me see if I can remember the tagline that Playboy used. It was a girl that had tried out and she kept the audition outfit. And then they had her in the centerfold and it said, the Cowboys miss is our Miss january i like it yeah it's pretty good it's not bad you know what's funny dan is uh that's the second story we've heard about people who

work in like the promotional and marketing arm of the cowboys losing their job because they took the cowboy stuff to a strip club r.i.p rowdy who uh no way well he parked the van there's a rowdy van and he was like jerry referenced this in a jocular comedic vein uh recently they fired their old rowdy because he took the rowdy van it was photographed outside of a place of ill repute oh my goodness yeah he is rowdy they call him rowdy why did they true. Why did they name him that? That's true. So, yeah, I'm in that, and it's the number one Netflix show on the TV streamer.

But we've heard from people that have appeared in documentaries, our banker for one, that you don't really make much from that, if anything. Oh, no, you're not supposed to be paid for an interview. That's journalistically unethical as a general rule. But I was a story consultant on this show. Ah, the workaround. So I helped them track down vintage clips. So, you know, there's a lot of...

Oh, nice. Yeah, so when you see all those montages... So how long have you been involved with it then? Like, when did they start this whole thing? I think they started it a year ago, and I got involved about six months ago. I was surprised that you weren't one of the judges for the initial tryouts because they had like a traffic guy from a. Okay.

We got to talk about that. Okay. Traffic guy. We talked the other day. Hold on. It's not the traffic guy. It's not the traffic guy. The weather guy.

It's Scott Padgett, the CBS 11 weather guy. Okay. And when we talked the other day, that's in like the last five minutes of episode one, I had not seen that part. Okay. And I have been just stewing on this since I saw it. I texted her and I was like,

I just want to make sure you're not friends with this Scott fucking Padgett character who probably is a member here, so I'm sorry to warn. But why in God's name do they have the guy who stands in front of the screen and tells you when it's going to rain sitting there being like, I didn't like her kicks. I thought she was good in the routine but not great on the field. What do you know?

I don't get it. If somebody's going to tell me that Scott – That's what I thought. If anybody should be, Sarah should be a judge. If somebody's going to tell me that Scott Padgett actually was like a college cheerleader – A yell leader. Or anything, then fine. I will walk all this back.

But this is the first time you hear him, and I threw my remote. Sorry, Blake. Number 36, Charlie. So now they're putting images up there. It looks like a draft war room. You know, it's a bunch of people sitting around a table. They're talking about prospects. The difference being all the people in a draft war room know about football.

Yeah. Here they have Scott Padgett. Except for, you know, yodeling kid. That's true. And Jerry. Point made. In the field, I'm like, wow, looks amazing. That's him.

And then he started kicking. Well, I don't think we should lower our bar for anybody. Yeah, but so does the question become. Okay, now you want to know who the second guy is here? Whenever they put up his little tag of what he does, it's his name and it says, Lou Casey Boots Representative. Right.

So it's just somebody they have a marketing sponsorship agreement. He's like an 80-year-old dude. That one guy was like a choreographer and you're like, oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I have a marketing sponsorship agreement. He's like an 80-year-old dude. The wrong guy was like a choreographer, and you're like, oh, okay. Yeah, for sure. I think these are sponsorship partners, and as part of the deal, they work in that somebody at the place gets to be a judge. Yeah, and they have a deal with CBS 11, obviously. But if I'm Scott Padgett, I just say no.

Like, what am I doing here? Would you really? I don't know. You might say yeah. I can tell you what I wouldn say no. Like, what am I doing here? Would you really? I don't know. You might say yeah. I can tell you what I wouldn't do. I wouldn't walk into it. Despite the fact that we talk about a lot of stuff we know nothing about, I would not feel comfortable judging these people who are professionals at what they do

in the company of other professionals and being like, didn't like our kicks. Yeah. I would probably just sit there. Adhere to what those around me were voting. Yeah. But we need to take notes, though, because as we open up sponsorships, maybe if you don't like our social media or whatever, maybe you want to sit in on planning on the show.

That's the truth. It's not a bad idea. But that's why I was saying during that, I thought the voting should be private or a silent ballot or whatever you call it. Yeah, because you're influenced by when the head lady holds her hand up. Yeah, she holds her hand up. I'm going to vote her way because I don't know anything. Yeah, and that happens in sports all the time, right?

Yes, scouts. Like, here's what I think about them. And they all, yes, harumph, harumph. We all agree. Here's my last Scott Padgett clip. It's quick. 49 Victoria. She wasn't dancing like a veteran.

So I was expecting that level of energy. And it was just, I'm here. I'm kind of doing what I need to do. Dancing like a veteran. So I was expecting that level of energy, and it was just, I'm here. I'm kind of doing what I need to do. Dancing like a veteran. I should make the squad. So she was just being out-danced to me. She was being out-danced to me. If I'm Victoria.

When is it raining? Yeah. Where's the heat dome? Throw up the seven days, Scott. Come on. Is there a warning or a watch? Can I? These are the things I need to hear from you.

Ask Scott Padgett. A question, which is that have we confirmed Scott Padgett has no dance background? See, that's what I was saying. That's what he said. He'll back off. If he was a college cheerleader or if he has serious dance chops that I don't know about, we'll delete all this. Did he TikTok?

You know who I bet also doesn't? Is the 80-year-old guy who's a representative of Lucchese Boots. Okay. He has no dance background. Yeah. But can I say that in a way, it makes sense for you to have normal shows? Well, there's Scott Padgett flossing sort of at the state fair. Scott, you're not dancing like a veteran either, bud. No.

You look like you're just out there. You're not committed to the moves. Maybe both he and the boot guy have many years of ogling cheerleaders in their background. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that you don't just want somebody there for technical ability you want male eyes because they're going to be the primary audience in the stadium at the very least yeah and so you want that perspective i understand that and that's fair in that case what i want to hear from scott paget is something like uh 39 great ass okay can i just tell you can I just tell you great ass yes

go for Pacino like if that's what he's there for then I don't want to hear him talking about leg kicks in defense of Scott Padgett and the

the corner that he was in with this show who knew you'd have to defend him the name of today's show I will die on this hill and it'll be the end of me um back in the day

on Making the Team they the guys used to do that oh i can't and it was it they would get like that show it's so many so one of the interesting things about this show is watching how the cowboys and the and the the women behind the cheerleaders have changed how they talk because of having been recorded and having seen the critiques of it that they body shame and the me too critiques. So you'll never hear them say somebody needs

to lose weight. They'll say that they're not fueling themselves or they need to fuel more or they need to think about nutrition or that they're missing stamina.

So it's all these coded words. They were doing that on Victoria early. Yes. And that's, I have not seen the rest of the series.

I've seen one through three and I was telling these guys the other day. They're teasing that she had an eating disorder. Yeah. Does she? It feels like that's what we're teasing

because they keep saying, well, she didn't fuel up right. There's one moment where the choreographer Judy Trammell says something like that was before she went on her health journey. It was like she went on her health journey. It was like, what's the health journey? Was it an unhealth journey?

Is that where we got the lose some weight baby girl drop from? No, that's the lady that got towed. That was ESPN. Okay, yeah, yeah. Britt McHenry? Yeah, there you go. So I don't know that that particular specific- Blow me up, dog. I don't know that that particular specific- Blow me up, dog.

I don't know that that specific- They grow up so fast. Sorry. No, it's okay. I'm proud of them. I'll go get that guy and he'll come in here. I don't know that they ever tackle that specific issue, Dan, but what they do is show you pictures that kind of speak to that to what is likely the story there

because her weight fluctuates dramatically and if you followed the cheerleaders like on making the team or whatever you know that like one year she got kicked off for being too heavy and the next year she got kicked off for being too thin I don't know about kicked off but like

we're talking about that. It's very difficult to land in that sweet spot and then stay there. Yeah, it seems miserable. Because they measure and those uniforms fit absolutely perfectly to your body that day. Yeah. And so if you gain a little weight, you lose a little weight. It's crazy. Put on muscle.

Everybody looks larger on TV. I don't just mean fatter I mean that they look tall you know and big but when you see these girls

they're like 5 foot 4 they're tiny and when you see these booty shorts which I once went into the you know the star dressing room

and they're hanging up like and they look like toddler underwear they're tiny tiny and I mean not to gross you guys out but like I mean let's just women bloat

when they get their period like you gain two to three pounds regularly and not to mention I mean nobody ever writes about this but like getting your period in those white shorts I mean that's just got to be like I know I didn't even think of that that's what she's here for no I'm just telling you the women's perspective yeah it's yeah mean, you are wearing pantyhose and stuff, but there's just got to be so many crazy stories backstage. Okay, I'm looking at some notes that I got from the first three episodes. Do any of those girls have tattoos? I didn't see any.

You're not allowed to have tattoos, but they do because it's the 21st century. And so what they do is they put flesh-toned stickers over them for the games. And if the one time, like during the pandemic, they were dancing on the side stages. So I was really close to where they were dancing. And you could see that they had tattoos underneath them. But they're not supposed to. But it is also a tradition for the last 20 years or so for every team. After the end of the year, they get a little tattoo star on their ankle.

Little known detail. So the five-year veterans have five stars? No, I think they just get one. Okay, it's not like the Ohio State helmet. But it's specific. Don't know what that means. Yeah. Real quick from my notes, just when we're talking appearances.

So they may not call them fat anymore, but I was so uncomfortable. This whole thing makes me uncomfortable just from my overall thesis on it. But the girls love it and the women love it. So who am I to judge? But it does make me really uncomfortable. The makeover scene. When they're at the salon and they're looking at him and they're like,

I don't think your hair color actually works. And they totally changed their look. Some of them completely. They called their parents and they're like, who are you? They FaceTimed their parents. And then they ended up cutting her, right? They did. She's all hot anyway. They FaceTimed their parents. And then they ended up cutting her, right? They did. Let's try this.

She's all hot anyway. She's a perfect looking girl. And now her hair's like red. Yeah, you'd be better as a redhead. Now she's a redhead. She goes through all that and then they cut her. Yeah. Well, this is very galling to a lot of people.

But another way you could see this is that it's a free makeover. I mean, to do your hair professionally. I understand that. But another way you could see this is that it's a free makeover. I mean, to do your hair professionally. But you don't get to choose. I understand that. But you are, this is the thing at the core of the cheerleaders, which is deeply uncomfortable in the 21st century, which is you are not there to be yourself. You are there to be what they need. And the truth is, that's true of football. It's just somehow so much more triggering when it's women.

And so what I'd like to drill into for just a second, if you don't mind, is why that made you so uncomfortable. Because like you said, the women enjoy it oftentimes. They're excited about it. They're looking forward to it. So what is it that makes you uncomfortable? Is it because you as a man have been so trained to say, no, honey, you look good in that,

no matter what the answer is? Or is it because you have daughters and you are a daughter and you don't want, like, what the answer is? Or is it because you have daughters and you are a daughter and you don't want like, which, what, what is it triggering? I think it's both of those things. And I did think about it from a sports perspective, you know, cause you'll draft a player and in year three, they're like, we have to make you a jump shooter or, you know, Dwight Powell, all of a sudden we're going to make you shoot threes. Like they're telling you, this is what your career is going to be. It just feels different when it's just completely

appearance based. And it's partially daughter, but I think in general I just don't love the idea that people are going to be primarily judged on their looks. It just feels like a really base societal thing that we should try to not have. But it's always going to be that way.

It's very interesting to hear sports guys say that. I mean, I remember, weren't we talking about your uncle? Somebody's uncle. Somebody's uncle was real creepy with the cheerleaders. Oh, it was Corby's. Oh, it was Corby's uncle. Yeah.

He would bring the binoculars solely for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, like if you're going to have women in very little clothing on the sidelines and they're they're orchestrated to get attention and market attention for your team they're gonna have to does it seem like a good plan to just be like whatever you do you like i've i've we've talked about this before i'm just uncomfortable that cheerleaders exist yes yet like you said women want to do it. They grow up doing it. They want to be on the sideline cheering. They love dancing.

And looking hot and everything. So who am I to eradicate that? Well, were either of you impressed by the actual dancing and the solo dances? It's incredible. In particular, the parts where they're all together on the field in practice, and they're using the yard markers. Yes. They're using the yard line markers, where they're all together on the field in practice. And they're using the yard markers. Yes. They're using the yard line markers.

And they're like, all right, from the 35 to the 40, you got to be there in two seconds. And you're going to do it in two steps. No, it's insane. Even just watching, like when I walk in, my daughter does dance. And even just going to pick her up. And you walk by. The 16-year-old girls class, I'm like, that's amazing. I could never in a million years

pull that off. I'm a big fan of choreography. Yeah. So when they can do all that. Especially when it's all together. Very impressive. One of the things I really like about these shows,

this one in particular, is that it gives people a real sense of the rigor and the elegance and the grace that these women have. Yeah, they're not just out there. Shaking their ass.

Jumping around. And for 50 years, the line has been. How much different would it be if they were just out there doing this? Is it that big of, you know, they're going through all of this to get trained dancers. But if they just threw out a bunch of... Models. Hooters girls or whatever, just put that uniform on them. Is there any difference at all?

Do they sell the same amount of calendars? I don't think so. Is the Cowboys record the same? Do they make the same money? No, I think it's a decent question. I mean, you know, TechSstram's original idea was to hire models because he wanted beautiful women on the sidelines. And then D. Brock,

who he hired to kind of run this thing, was a model. And she was like, sorry, models don't move. So you're not going to get this thing, which is beautiful women that are also going to be live and, you know, like, you know, get the crowd going. But they end up going in that direction.

They ultimately get both. And I think that's owner, I think both TechShram and then later Jones wanted really hot women on the sidelines. I think if women had been in charge of it, it would have been more talent-based. If you think about it though, Dan, I mean, even strippers,

not to compare them to strippers, but they're dancing. They don't just stand up there. They have to work at it. Like they have to actually have a routine and they make more money because they don't just stand there and look hot. Yeah. So I think that the routine does matter quite a bit and it's super, super impressive. When you talk about what made you uncomfortable, it made me uncomfortable that the first two cuts were black girls. That was a tough look. That was a tough look. I was really...

Only like four out of the 36 or 42 or whatever. Yeah, and the first two, yeah. Like, why not just mix it up? But... That tells you something about where we are as a culture. Like, there is a moment when they absolutely never would have done that. You know, like in 2021, 22. But then there was a moment when they absolutely never would have done that. You know, like in 2021, 22. But then there was a moment when they absolutely would have, and now we're back there.

But maybe we're now just basing it on... Well, I think the defense would be... It used to be just based on the race. Then it was, I won't do it because of that. The overcorrection to the race. And now it's back to, it's just about talent. Charlotte's daughter. Oh, very pretty.

Is the Turk, though. Dude, I thought about- You know what the Turk means? The Turk is the guy at training camp before cell phones that would have to go to somebody's room and say, hey, can you bring your playbook?

Coach wants to see you. He was the Grim Reaper. Like the Grim Reaper, yeah. Yeah, so when you knew, oh man, it's this guy. Like no one wanted to see him. Yeah. Isn't it amazing? People would like avoid him.

Don't you think it's amazing when the girls come in there, like the Grim Reaper has gotten them, and then they sit down and they're like, hi? And you're like, you're getting cut. You know what you're here for. You know you're getting cut. You didn't invite her in there. And they're like, hey, first of all,

we all think you're just adorable. Thank you. Thank you. She's the special projects officer. Oh, my God. There's so many Jones kids with fuzzy titles. Man, I want one of those. I want a fuzzy title.

What do you want to be, bud? Just not broke? I want a fuzzy title and then a billion dollar, you know, parachute. Maybe it's not just the title. Then this is the piece of audio I wanted to play for you guys from episode two. It is during cuts. Here's our concern. Yes.

It's your kicks and your flexibility. And your flexibility and your kicks. And your kicks and your flexibility. your flexibility and your kicks and your kicks and your flexibility yes ma'am and we will be making cuts throughout this very rapid next set of weeks and that that's where we are yes ma'am um you're not in our top 36 and it is in the category of high kicks our experience is that there won't be enough time for your kicks to be game ready for our show. I believe I can get there. And then they always have the, I try to talk myself into.

We don't know that yet after three days of training camp, to be honest with you. We don't think you'll be ready for this team. I know I can do it. Oh, I think you can do it. You know what? Also, just the fact that they have a training camp. So it's not the first cuts aren't the cuts.

So they cut them down to like 44, and they're like, well, okay, now we'll go do training camp and we'll cut you throughout this. It's brutal, man. By the way, one thing that's not discussed in this, this is unusual in professional cheerleading. Most places don't have this protracted training camp experience.

And they're not getting paid. Yeah. Okay? So they are, we see these girls staying at the Gaylord. I don't know how that happened. Generally, what has happened. I'm sure they put them up at the Gaylord. What has historically happened during training camp is you are sleeping in, on somebody's

couch, in somebody's extra room, in your car. Like, girls do crazy stuff for like a month. So for TV, they're putting him at the Gaylord. They don't want to show him. They don't want to show him. I know I can do it. Oh, I think you can do it. I don't think you can do it this year. You should leave.

The camera's on. They have to smile. I just thought you were beautiful. Try not to cry. Kick and split part of the job that needs to also happen. Look, basically the weather guy thought you sucked. Yes, ma'am. Wait, listen. I held my tears this entire time.

This is, by the way, this happens in football too with dudes, but it's the way they try to make you a bit sympathetic for them. It's okay. Thank you, though. We get it. This is the worst part of our job. Very worst.

That's a classic football coach thing. Look, this is the hardest part of my job. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were having a tough time today. Which one of us no longer has a job? Yeah, like it feels like I'd rather have the hard part of a job if it included the job part. And the money.

Yeah. And I have neither. I think this is harder. So I actually know that cheerleader that got cut. Her name is Darian, and she's a vet tech at my friend's um veterinary clinic and she's a super sweet girl and this is like the she's tried out multiple times this is the farthest she's ever gotten one thing i want to say though is if you are going to be on national tv millions of people watching and you're going to have the scrutiny of armchair assholes everywhere don't you want

the protective screen of someone saying you're not ready yeah for sure and i know i mean i've got a lot of cringes around the room with guys because it's uncomfortable i think you guys have just and i appreciate this been you know well conditioned to not criticize women's looks it is so sensitive for us. It's so sensitive. But these are women that have- I would never. Oh, yeah. Like, I didn't mean Dan.

We're both. I meant other people that are off-camera. But what I'm, you know, I think when you go into this, you know what you're going into, and part of it is that you have to look a certain way, and they know that. Yeah. And it's not personal.

Yeah. Yeah, I get it. And it has to be the jump split. By the way, can we just for a moment talk about the insanity of all those women jumping into the air hitting their crotch

at the same time on the field. I have physical questions about female anatomy after watching that. Well, you know, you hit your knee so that you don't take all the... Yeah. Yeah, so you hit your knee, so your knee scrapes and bruises.

Yeah, I guess they did mention that. Episode three dealt a lot with the injuries. Oh, yeah. Girl, I thought you had 12 orthopedic surgeries in six years. Basically, I still use a walker now. So between the jump splits, which really can pop your – I mean, they're bad on your hips, and the hair flipping. You see a million hair flips in that,

but you don't think about what that does to your back. I can't remember where it is, but there's a woman that's – she's trying to dance long and lean. She's shorter. And you have to curve your back. They're asking for more length than your body will give you. Yeah, it's an injury. Now, granted, that also happens in the dance world.

This is not unique to professional cheerleading. What is unique to professional cheerleading is that you are paid like professional dancers, i.e., not very very much in the context of a lucrative enterprise which is the nfl yeah and and the conflict between those two things that you're paid like an artist but you're operating in the money-making palace that is jerry world no it's a weird bit we talked about this a few days ago we did another segment on it. Just the whole... It was when Charlotte was talking about it, I think. Right. In your segment of episode one was talking about what they make and what they don't

make. The Cowboy Cheerleaders itself makes over a million or probably a lot more than that. That clip was super old. An interview with Jerry from 15, 20 years ago. It's not like if they lost their top cheerleader that we stop. You know, that's, but it is also like a, in this day and age, don't you feel an obligation to pay them a living wage?

Yeah. So. But they don't. feel an obligation to pay them a living wage? But they don't. They get... The one girl was saying she thinks what a full-time employee at Chick-fil-A might make. Which, you know, I don't know what they get. Are we talking $40,000 or something? Maybe less than that. I mean, you know, they get $400. This is what's been reported.

$400 a game plus minimum wage hourly. That is so much more than they used to get. And I think from the Cowboys' perspective, they're like, okay, guys, we used to give them $15 a game until the 90s. That's crazy that they got away with that. And now they've just been... But if they gave them each $100,000,

the Cowboys would still have the same value. They would... Nobody in the Cowboy organization would feel it at all. But why is the Cowboys team the most lucrative brand in sport? Because they are a cheapskate on every single level. Talk to somebody that's catered an event for Jerry Jones. He's a cheapskate. It's not going to affect their bottom line,

but it's that rich guy thing of every single little bit counts. And if the cheerleaders only make X amount through their promotions, sponsorships, et cetera, et cetera, then they're only going to have this amount. And they do pay more than anybody else in the league. Now, all of this said, I agree with you guys. They should pay more and they should set an example. And it made me insane when Charlotte Jones was like, you know, people are really cynical about this as they should be, but you know, people are really cynical about this, as they should be,

but, you know, they do it for their meaning and purpose. And she's sitting there talking like she's not the one that could change that. That's exactly what I said. I'm like, I think the call is coming from inside the house. Exactly. Exactly. It makes me nuts.

And I mean, I just thought, I mean, I don't know. What did you guys think of her? How did she come across to you guys? I would never criticize her. Okay. Yeah. I think she's perfect. Oh, God.

Really? He doesn't like what Rich Dalrymple did, but he can understand it with Charlotte. Allegedly. He's a big fan of Charlotte. Is that true? Yeah. Why? Because she's attractive and she has a billion dollars.

No, to be honest with you. You could just stay at home every day. Wouldn't you clean that house? Oh, my God. Top to bottom. You have no idea what I would do. Because the answer is literally anything. You would start golfing.

I'd probably have to start golfing. If she wanted you to golf, you'd golf. You'd clean Jerry's glasses during the game. The cleanest they've ever been. Do you know that reference? No. Her ex-husband got filmed in the suite one day during a game. Like Jerry handed some guy behind him his glasses,

and he cleans them off, and then he gives them back to Jerry, and it was Charlotte's husband. Oh, that's rough. No, it isn't. It's great. That's rough. Wouldn't you do it? To be honest, I do find her very attractive, yes.

She's a very powerful woman. But also, I think... She'd tell you what to do and stuff. I think her brothers are bumbling morons. That's true. That's true. She's the brains in the Jones family. It's so Succession.

You watch Succession? Yes. She's the brains In the Jones family It's so Succession You watch Succession? Yes She's Shiv Absolutely So that's part of it Is I just listen to Jerry Jr. Talk and I'm like Get this clown

Out of my face Then I listen to her talk And I'm like Well sounds like a business person Yeah yeah yeah for sure Even more than Jerry sometimes Yeah That's part of it

The show's great Are you in more of it? Yeah I show up I think I show up In the sixth episode Is that when you try out When more of it? Yeah, I think I show up in the sixth episode. Is that when you try out when one of the girls gets cut? Yes. I need a, who do we get?

Let's grab Sarah. She's been a ton of these. The journalist. That's great. Everybody wants a 49-year-old journalist. You know, that would actually be kind of a funny bit. Just to show how good they are? Yeah, like Dan tried out for the Mavs

Maniacs and found out how tough it was. He went to practice for a couple weeks. Obviously, they're not going to let you wear a uniform. Well, it's actually a classic daily newspaper thing that's been done many, many times over the last 50 years.

Your young female journalist goes and tries out for the cheerleaders and does a self-deprecating bit. Okay. I haven't seen that. Yeah. That's a good bit. Like when Mitch Albom went and lived with those homeless people.

It's not quite like that. I was thinking more of the guy that tried out for the Detroit Lions. Oh, George Plimpton. Yeah. Oh, okay. Paper Tigers. Yeah, I read that book. And then sometimes teams do weird deals where they have a reality show,

and if you win it, you actually get to be on the team. Oh, that was also the Cowboys. Do you know that story? No. They had a reality show. Was it called? Fourth and Long? Fourth and Long.

It was Michael Irvin, Jerry was involved, and they had a reality show where guys came and tried out, like did drills and... It was to make... The training camp invite. You would be the final player at training camp. No way. So they invite, like, what, 88 to training camp?

Yeah, 88, 90, and the guy who won... Got the last spot. Made the practice squad coming out of camp. And then a couple people got hurt. Jesse Holly, we're speaking of. And he actually played in several games by winning a show that was on FX. And he ended up with a game-winning catch once. He had a read.

Yeah, and now he's really good friends with Jake because they both spoke at a class together. He unblocked me. Oh, that's right. He had blocked you on Twitter for some reason. Yeah, it turns out he's funny too. Yeah. Is Jesse Holly funny?

I mean, the tweet. He had one funny tweet. He had a funny tweet that I, he deleted and I was like, why'd you delete it? And then he blocked me. Oh. It was a funny tweet. Anyway, Sarah, are you now fully subscribed to the Dumb Zone? Absolutely.

With a full year, thanks to Heart Attack Man. Did you remember that? I forgot about that. He donated that. Really? Yeah, did you know one of our listeners is the one? We didn't do it. You're kidding.

We didn't do anything. Oh, my God. Yeah, he said he loved Sarah so much that he wanted to... I think he said he read the book, too. Heart attack, man. Yeah. He's a sweetheart. He wants out of heart attack.

Yeah. Don't do that next to intern Rachel. Why? Because she just... Doesn't want you to steal T. Swift's move. She's the biggest Taylor Swift fan I've ever met in my life. You haven't met me yet. Although she has.

You have taken your Taylor Swift gear off of your computer, so that's a little weird. Which era are you? I'm lover. I have no idea what they just said. I'm a 1989 guy. You know what they said? Was that English?

So you know what they said. Yeah. And I'm dealing with this quite a bit like this morning you'll hear this in the news but i have some audio that pertains to taylor swift okay well let's move on there we'll get to this first hey everybody it's time to answer some of today's viewer mail we gotta do birthdays and stuff know. Sarah, are you familiar with birthdays? No. Reading birthdays? Let's see.

Day six, number 2677. That's their subscriber number. So Sarah must be be subscriber number what 6300 yeah something like that man y'all have a lot of subscribers how many do you have I mean who's counting

besides me everyday yeah today is my Donald Trump minus 5 George Washington's birthday 40 well he said I wish I knew who the 5th president Trump minus five, George Washington's birthday. God bless. So he's 40? 40? Well, he said, I wish I knew who the fifth president was,

but there's no way to find out. No one knows. This is just impossible. He knows the two that matter, the two best. He sent this Tuesday, but we did a early show, so I never got to it. And he said he wanted us because his birthday is on Business Wednesday, which is a significant day for Dallas sports birthdays. Fun fact,

2016, all three point guards for the Mavs had the exact same birthday of 6-26-84. Their names were? Darren Williams, J.J. Barea, and Raymond Felton. Are you impressed, Sarah? A little bit.

That Jake knew that. The funniest thing about doing Mavs postgame when they sucked was you would see, like, they do the B-roll of where the kids go into a hospital or the players go to a hospital or they sign stuff at Academy. And the guy up there was always Raymond Felton, but he never really played. It was just like, man, that's how this goes. Look, Raymond Felton's at a Taco Bueno, but I haven't seen him play in three months. My only goal in life is for Jake and Blake to say, that's a good email.

So far, it's pretty solid, but let's see. Nora is my leader. Nice. Now you're just kissing ass. More Joe. More Joe. More Blake. Pretty on board. And can I request the Blake drop of let me see that D.

This is from Chad Hemmeline. Hey, Chad. What do you think, Blake? I think that was a good email. That was a good email. I do not have that Blake drop, but I have some other ones. A strange bird is the pelican. His bill holds more than his belly can.

He can take in his beak enough food for a week. I'm damned if I know how the hell it can. That's one. Okay. Dave Portnoy. George Clooney. Chuck Berry. Mark Zuckerberg Portnoy. George Clooney. Chuck Berry. Mark Zuckerberg.

Charlie Pride. Meghan Markle. Ian Johnson. Billy Crudup. Judy Blume. Kenny Rogers. I saw them in Vegas. I think I have it.

Let me see that dick. There you go. I was reading. Why would you play drop of yourself? You could have just said it. Because he asked for it. Oh. Is that what you wanted me to do?

Say it? Can you say it again? Dear Uncle Hottie, I'm a day two, number 1355. I want to share my disappointment. Oh, my God. That's so disturbing. He was talking to our video guy. Yeah.

He's being prude. He was talking to our video guy. Yeah. He's being prude. You have not referred to the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader documentary as Hard Knockers. Oh, God. That's right up your alley. That is super, super solid.

That's from Brad in Paradise. Although I do think you'll notice that they seem to sort of shy away from girls with like very large breasts right yeah i think in dance that's probably just normal in general so yes but they don't want you to have like intimidating intimidatingly shocking cleavage well it's also just i mean if you go back and look at the squad photos the 90s are like the boob years like hardcore because also that's when breast implants had been really normalized in between just the culture and whatever was going on, like the boobs are out. But you have to think, A, it's difficult to do all these routines with that kind of... Rack.

Up tops. And then... Just like hitting you in the face and stuff. The other thing is that shirt, the one that ties, it is really, really good at creating cleavage. Like it's actually designed to squeeze you in. So a lot of, it's kind of like a wonder bra. I know that doesn't mean anything to you guys, but basically, like, it will create cleavage for women that don't typically have it.

Shout out to the shirt. You know, the 90s were when the Cowboys were actually winning Super Bowls. That's right. Let's bring them back. Bring back the big boobs. That's a good point, Blake. Maybe there's a transitive property. What do you call that, Jake?

I'll call that a correlation. Oh, damn it. Anyway, another email about Victoria. He tried. Victoria, the very compelling cheerleader. Yes. A guy says, I don't know her personally, but I've known her dad, Greg Kalina, for 10 years.

Yeah. Great dude. He was the GM of Del Frisco's in Fort Worth. Now he's a partner in the Stonehouse Restaurant on 26th and Colleyville. I'm not familiar with that. Not either. Sounds delicious, though, Greg. Greg and his wife, Tina, have two sons.

Their daughter, Victoria. They all went to Coppell High School. He's a big philanthropic guy in Fort Worth, serving several nonprofits as a board member of the years. He's been generous. Anyway, he says he's a great dude. Well, I don't know, Greg, personally, or what the story is, but I will tell you that towards the end of the series, Victoria basically throws her dad under the bus and says that the only person that supported her is her mom

and that her dad and brothers have never seen her dance. He's a busy guy. At non-profits. So he may be a nice dude, but, you know, I don't know. I don't know. What did you guys think of Victoria real quick? So if he donates money to us, is he donating to a non-profit?, you know, I don't know. I don't know. What did you guys think of Victoria real quick? So if he donates money to us, is he donating to a non-profit?

Technically right now, yes. You could write that off right away. You know, I think the thing with her mom is weird. A little too much. A little too tight. But she's a nice lady. I wish her the best. She sleeps in a weird

child bed also. Is it in a weird child bed also. Is it like a children's bed? It looks like a kid's room. It looks like, honestly, a room that I would have had. It's so decked out in cowboy stuff. And then it might be like a full-sized bed. I know you said they're small, but it looks like... Because she lives at home.

Yeah. It's a little uncomfortable. Did I get the Greg Tepper birthday the other day? You did. Te she lives at home. Yeah. It's a little uncomfortable. Did I get the Greg Tepper birthday the other day? You did. Teppa Palooza. Yep. That's right. Well, happy birthday to him again then.

And then. There's a freebie for you. Finally. Here I go. Dear Dan, I thought we were safe, but I was scrolling through LinkedIn. I saw a post from my alma mater, SMU, featuring the one and only SportsMare. On LinkedIn? Yes, this is Eric Johnson. He's just carpet bombing all social websites.

He's trying to hide from us. I love sports. There's rocks. Sportsman. And I believe we have a video to accompany this video, man. I love sports. If you want to fire this up. Sportsman.

Sportsman. Sportsman. Sportsman. According to Jake, he's the man we deserve. I do. I admit it. I love sports. He admits it. I love sports. He admits it.

It's hard. It's hard for a man to admit. Yeah. Let's see what he put on LinkedIn. Hi, I'm Eric Johnson, the mayor of Dallas. And on behalf of our city, I want to congratulate SMU on their well-deserved accomplishment of joining the esteemed Atlantic Coast Conference. This achievement is a proud moment for our entire city. It signifies not only a triumph for SMU, but also a pivotal moment that will elevate our community and enrich our sports culture. To the ACC community, I extend a warm welcome to Dallas. ACC community, I extend a warm welcome to Dallas.

Your presence in our city brings a vibrant energy and a spirit of camaraderie that unites us all. So to SMU and the ACC, I look forward to the thrilling seasons ahead. Pony up. We need to do some man on the street. I love sports. I do. I admit it. Because he said it's uniting us all.

Oh, that's a great idea. Just go around Dallas, man on the street. All right, your thoughts on the ACC? What? So that was the video congratulating SMU for joining a conference? Yeah. That's what he did that day? Today.

That was today? Yeah. When did he say, when did he finally admit it and say that he liked sports? Well, we had to pull some teeth. Therapy. But we got to do it. Yeah. No, but like what was the context of that?

It was, I think, it was one of the, oh, it was when they were bringing a lacrosse team here? Something. I don't care. They were getting another fifth-tier team. This is Sam. So he said, hopefully if SMU beats Duke this year – I love sports. I do. I admit it.

I love sports. If Duke – if SMU beats Duke this year, we could send a busload of our finest to Durham. Our bit, Sarah, is because he bets a lot of different mayor's stuff. Like he just posted yesterday, I think, on Twitter about winning a box of chocolates from the mayor of Minnesota. It's a bit that has gotten out of control across the sports landscape where a mayor will tweet another one and they're like, all right, mayor of such and such in Denver, you win and I send you barbecue.

Yeah, he's betting someone else's barbecue. There's nothing really betting. Like, if we bet, we're betting something real. So we said, we should bet if the Mavs win, we send a bus full of homeless people that have to go live in Minneapolis now. Oh my god.

You made it high stakes. It's very high stakes. And as Dan pointed out, we have politicians in this state with quite a bit of experience of loading people up. We do. It's already normalized where people won't protest if that's done. So let's do it. Another bus. Let's have fun with it.

Let's make it a reality show and follow them. I love it. And just watch the $10,000 credit card that they're giving in the hotel room with the Ritz, because I hear that that's what we do. Also, Sam says, by the way, LinkedIn, a good resource for unemployed people like yourselves to find your next gig. Keep your heads up. P.S. More gash. No.

That sounds really dirty. It is. I'm not even going to dignify that with a response. Okay, a couple quick ones here before we get to my Trump audio. Because it's a big night. Oh, that is tight. Oh, yeah. Yep, we're going to do a little debate prep. Someone that I can almost promise you Sarah Heppola has written about before

has passed away at the age of 79. This is Texas icon Kinky Friedman. Oh. Friedman. You ever meet him? R.I.P. No. He's a man for governor.

He did. Yeah. He was in Austin, kicking around Austin. Yeah. Singer, songwriter, sort of comedian, I guess. Always had a cigar. There was probably a time when you're first starting out in your political infancy, like 17, 18, or for Dan, 51, where any third party candidate, you don't know how impossible it is. So I'm like, Ralph Nader, this guy kicks ass.

Like, I think he can do it. And he gets like 4% of the vote. That's how I was with Kinky Friedman when he'd run. Because he's like, oh, this guy's not a politician. He's got a cigar. He's the marshal at the Greenville Avenue parade that I'm going to, you know, at 18. And he'd get 3% of the vote. But I like the criteria you have for your president.

Yeah. Cigar. So what you've got to do is... People have gotten it done with less. You've got to get him to win one of the parties. Yeah, pretty much. Because that would have been Trump in the past. They need the machine behind them.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. So his official ex- X account confirmed this death with this very Kinky Friedman-esque statement. Kinky Friedman stepped on a rainbow at his beloved Echo Hill,

surrounded by friends and family. Beautiful. It really is. That is beautiful. Kinkster endured tremendous pain and unthinkable loss in recent years, but he never lost his fighting spirit in quick wit. He did lose the fight though in the end.

Technically, this round goes to whatever disease he was afflicted with. There was a man arrested for a shooting in Irving that took place earlier this week.

It happened inside a Chick-fil-A. And if I had to rank for you, the restaurants where I would be surprised that somebody murdered two people, Chick-fil-A would be really, really low on the list. Maybe the lowest. All right, let's... I'm going to disagree.

What's the top of the list? Burger King. Number two is Popeye's. Even though it's one of my favorite fast food chains, possibly my favorite, number two is Popeye's. I'm going to disagree just because they have a really long drive-thru line. But they're quick with it, though. People run in there like, hey, I've got to avoid that line.

I'm going to run in, and now there's this big line in there. But they do the two-line system, but at some point you've got to merge. Yeah. And people are real dicks about it. People will cut you off in there. But they do the two-line system, but at some point you got to merge. Yeah. And people are real dicks about it. People will cut you off in there, and then the guy that has to wait, and now you're behind him, but you already got your food.

Yeah, that's tough. So wait, was it inside the facility? This one was inside. No word on whether or not this man had been frustrated by the drive-through line and then went inside. Yeah. Why is he not wearing a shirt? been frustrated by the drive-thru line, and then went inside. Yeah, it's a... Why is he not wearing a shirt?

That day, it was not his pleasure. They still do that bit, by the way. Oh, yeah, they do. You ever... You know what? I'm going to start protesting Chick-fil-A over this. Talk about things that went away culturally. Yeah, the problem was their food was too good.

Yeah, and at a relatively good price. Like at first it's like, yeah, we're going to boycott because they're like anti-gay and stuff. Yeah, yeah, okay, wait. So then we can't go there ever? Yeah. And people are going there on the sly. Don't you also think that if you...

Even like Russell Westbrook and that one meme where he's speaking... Yeah, like he could be gay and you're like, look, it's the chicken. Well, even in... The chicken's not gay. Even in Silicon Valley, the Satan worshippers

brought in a tray of chicken minis or whatever. Yeah. They said it's the Lord's chicken, but damn, it's good. That's the episode

that Melania's in. The love of my life outside of Charlotte. Yeah, she's great. She was Gilfoyle's girlfriend, which was like the least believable thing of all time. We've talked to her. I booked her.

You did. Melana, not Melania. Melana. Wait, who's Melania? That's Trump? Yeah. My bad. Do you wear your glasses outside in the morning?

Yeah. Have we talked about this already your glasses outside in the morning? Yeah. Have we talked about this already? Because it's happened to me every morning now. We're getting glass fog. The heat advisory will extend through today. Like it's just so hot when you walk outside? So humid. That's gross. It sucks so bad.

I'm all fogged up. I try to wipe them off. Now they're all dirty. It was like 104 the other morning and I just walked inside my house and said to my wife, why don't we live here? Was that like two days ago? I think I know the date. Yeah. Because you try to get up earlier, too, to – you could beat that, but you can't beat it now. You can't.

Why do we live here? We don't have to. We can go live in Colorado. Yeah, why don't you live in Colorado? And then we could just do DFW sports talk still. Yeah. Our kids are young enough to wear. Yeah, they don't have any ties yet.

They don't exactly love the heat either. By the way, these are the sort of things, the heat advisory being extended through today into tomorrow. These are the sort of things I want to hear from Scott Padgett about. Well, maybe Victoria is actually busy telling us about the cold front. The heat index? Did she say the heat advisory ends tomorrow like it's going to be better? I think it's better as far as them saying you could die if you're outside.

It's not going to be quite that bad. Isn't this the kind of heat that your dad will mow his acre? Yeah. With a push mower. He's a grinder. Yeah. Guy's an animal. Side note, I got to own up to something.

I forgot to call my dad on his birthday on Tuesday. Like all day? Yeah. We should have called him on the show. I didn't have him in my... We talked about him that day and I didn't even think about it. I didn't have that one in my calendar, I guess. Or that calendar populated.

I called him yesterday and yeah. He shrugged it off. Did he point it out? Do you think it hurt him? Yeah, I do. I feel likeged it off. Did he point it out? No. Do you think it hurt him? Yeah, I do. I feel like it hurt him, but he would never tell me that. And I felt so bad about it. Because I'm like the good one about that.

My brother, you know, he ain't calling. But me, I've been pretty good about it forever, even though I don't care at all about people's birthdays. Yeah, and I think I would be fine with it. Like, I don't want my birthday acknowledged, yeah. But, yeah, I'm sure it bothered him. So, anyways, tough break, old chapster. How can we make it up to him?

Let's get him a hooker. Okay. And you know he's already down because he's got nothing to bet on. Listen, bud, he's found something. What's he doing? What was the thing you were talking about earlier? Lacrosse? No.

Haktua girl? Yeah, Haktua girl. You know Haktua girl? No, I don't even know what those words are. God damn, what are you doing? Are you living under a rock? She's not online at all. Reading books and probably doing...

Yeah, what are you doing? Reading books and writing articles? Yeah, flame. Driving Rolls Royces? Probably doing adult stuff. The level of this hostility does not match my not knowing hop to it girl. Oh, hawk to it.

Yeah, I saw this on your Instagram. I didn't know what the hell it meant. That's the kids bop version, hawk to it girl. I didn't know what the hell it meant. That's the Kidz Bop version. Why? What does this mean?

It's a, yeah, he's right. Yeah, bring one of those every day. It's a guy doing man on the street interviews, and he's asking women, I think it's in downtown Nashville, like in a bar district. What makes you wife material? One of the girls is like, oh, I'm loyal.

I was stalling, but I don't know. Yeah. And they ask her. We can just give her the audio. Yeah, we can just play the audio. Although maybe I should just let you recreate it. I was going to. I thought you might want to hear it. I'm sorry. She says, you know just play the audio. Although maybe I should just let you recreate it. I was going to. I thought you might want to hear it. Why am I an idiot?

I'm sorry. She says, you know, I'm loyal. I'm a good friend. And then her friend pops in and she's like, what makes you wife material? And then she starts talking and he falls up with one move in bed that will make a man go crazy. And she goes, ha, spit on that thing. Oh, my God. I might have had the order backwards. It might have! Spit on that thing. Oh my god. I might have had the order backwards. It might have been spit on that thing.

Hak-toor! No, you nailed it. Yep. And now she's the most famous person on the planet right now. Hak-toor! I mean, I think you might have a different Twitter feed than I do.

I think it's becoming increasingly clear. You nailed it. Yeah. Collin County Civil Court judge has dismissed the sexual assault and defamation claims against one Dak Prescott. A couple weeks ago, it was no evidence of a crime, so the criminal charges were gone, and now it's over. That was a very flimsy case. I remember coming on and talking about that with you guys before. Yeah, and it was a weird part of it where...

Oh, they wanted $100 million. Yeah, shoot for the moon. But the fan had the lady's attorney on. Oh, God, he was a mess. It was a mess. That's a good way to put it. Yeah, and they're the flagship, too. Bold decision. It was the guy's first case. It was a mess. That's a good way to put it. Yeah, and they're the flagship, too. Bold decision.

It was the guy's first case. It was crazy. He was just out of law school. He's like, I'm going to sue them for $100 million. I'm going to go after the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. So he originally wrote zillion. Yeah. With a crayon.

With a crayon. And then my final story here. So there's a book coming out about Trump in the apprentice years. I think it's called Apprentice in Wonderland or Apprenticeship in Wonderland. It's not right before the election. That will hurt him. I know. It doesn't focus on.

I don't think the presidential years really at all. But the guy did do all the interviews post his first term. He went to Trump Tower maybe in 2019 and this guy had written about him as a writer in New York for a long time. And so he had a good relationship with him. Trump gave him a ton of

access. And so he goes and does his interviews with him and I don't know why this comes up. Maybe they're just talking about fame and celebrity as it is. But the guy rolled on all of it. And he went on CNN yesterday and played some of it. Here's Trump weighing in on two female celebrities. What do you think about Taylor Swift?

One of the most famous people right now. Yeah, I think she's beautiful. Very beautiful. I find her very beautiful. i think she's beautiful very beautiful i find her very beautiful i think she's liberal she probably doesn't like trump uh but i hear she's very talented but i think she's very uh i think she's a very beautiful actually unusually uh beautiful that's creepy. So creepy.

Two things obviously jump out there. The fact that he's like, I hear she probably doesn't like Trump rather than just me. No, third person is big for him. Oh, it's huge. But that sounds, yeah, that's weird.

That sounds like he'd be talking current day because why wouldn't she like Trump back then? Why would he, like now he's very aware of, oh, this person, liberal. He was mean. wouldn't she like Trump back then? Why would he? Now he's very aware of this person, liberal. He was mean. Probably doesn't like Trump. If this is way pre-2020 It's not way pre

but it's probably, like I said he did a ton of interviews with him in New York and at Mar-a-Lago but it's sometime around 2018 19, 20 and I think most people who follow her she hasn't been as vocal about it as she is now. That's when he first started speaking politically, though? Because I don't know that back in the early Apprentice days,

he was just complaining about people being liberal and stuff. No, but he'd already been like, this is... Oh, 2020. Yeah, I think this is maybe right after he got done. He was president. Yeah, this is post-presidency. I'm sorry, I was thinking pre-presidency. Yeah.

So then he's asked about another famous female. Can we dump that or no? We're live streaming today, so we can't dump things. I was disappointed in Kim. With Kim, I did a lot of... Kim Kardashian, obviously. I was disappointed in Kim. With Kim, I did a lot of prison reform that she couldn't get done with anybody else. I let people out of prison that I thought were deserving to be let out.

And then after it was all over, she announced that she's not supporting me. And she only did that to be cool in Hollywood. That's one of my favorite all-time burns is you're just trying to be cool. When somebody would say that to you in high school or something, you're like, fuck, they're right. Yeah, it's hard to come back. I kind of was. Yeah, so debate tonight everywhere you can find television. It's going to do huge numbers.

I heard Brian Curtis talking about the rules. Pfft. Lame. Well, they had a coin toss. That's awesome. What? So they had a coin toss, and if you win the coin toss, you get to choose either which podium you're on. So for people looking, you know, the left or the right.

Or you could choose to have the closing remarks. Okay. Biden won the coin toss. What do you think he chose? Closing remarks? He chose which podium to be on. So you think you'd defer to the second half? Yeah.

But he picked the win, didn't he? Like, I would think, I guess it depends. Does he have like a real weird thing on one side of his face? Oh, yeah. But I would think you'd want closing remarks. Yeah. Also, they can cut mics. Lame.

Because of... It's because of Trump in 2016. These are all Trump rules. Yes. Because he just will talk over you. Also, because of Trump, there's no crowd. I think that's smart. I think it is if you want to just find out what they say, but Trump feeds off the crowd.

Yeah, I mean part of it- So you're saying you think it's a disadvantage? To Trump. To Trump. Yes. You have to remember, CNN is still reeling from their very curious decision to let Trump do a town hall about a year ago. That's right.

That got their whatever version of a program director fired. Yeah. Yeah. Where they did it and clearly had not taken care of the crowd's political leanings. And it was just a bunch of people yelling, firing him up the whole time. And he didn't pay any attention.

He did the bit, the bit that I think I told you where they told him, Hey, you can't walk closer than the logo there was a CNN logo in the middle and they wanted some space in between the moderator and Trump and somebody who wrote about it said that in commercial breaks he would watch it walk over and kind of like put his foot on it it's like what are you gonna do about it bitch so CNN is now like all right we have got to try to control this uncaged beast that is true but i also find crowd reactions distracting

in the same way that you wanted to see the the voting on the dcc show silent yeah i think that it it confused like i want to have a pure reaction to what the guys are saying instead of hearing this, what may or may not be. Biased crowd. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Well, TV has always, you know, I mean, there's so much bias that goes into it. It's the legendary thing.

If you went to school for radio TV, did you guys study this? Nixon, JFK. The Nixon, Kennedy. Nixon, yeah. Yeah,? Nixon, JFK? The Nixon-Kennedy... Nixon, yeah. Yeah, the Nixon-JFK debate where apparently 70% of people

who listened to it on radio, because many people did consume their media that way back then, said that Nixon won the debate. And 70% of the people that watched it on TV said that JFK won. Yeah, because Nixon was like sweating really bad. Yeah, he had been sick.

He's disgusting looking. He wouldn't wear makeup because he thought it was gay. But back in the early days of TV, Kennedy's like, yeah, I'll do it. And he's all hot and young and everything. Anyways, there's your news. Are you guys going to watch the debate the question is

will I watch it a second time tomorrow morning I'm obsessed with watching Trump debate why because he doesn't care at all about anything he doesn't know hardly anything he's talking about this is what Shane Gillis has been

one guy's like oh you, I care about education. The next guy's like, I care about religion. And then Trump's like, Ted Cruz's wife is ugly. Yeah. And then everyone's like, okay. Yeah. You got a dog wife, Ted. Everybody knows.

You want to show Sarah Hawk to a girl? Oh, we got it? Yeah. Okay. Oh, the visual. Yeah. See how close I came to nailing it. Do you know what makes you wifey material?

Me? Wifey? Yeah. Everything. Everything? Yeah. Explain. What's everything?

I'm loyal. This is my wife. What makes me wifey? So this is the introduction to her. That fat ass she got. For real? Turn around. Let me see.

That fat ass she got. Wow. Okay turn around. That fat ass she got. Wow. Okay, so she's a wild ride. Leave a message to your last body. I love you, Pookie, forever. They must have been doing the right thing. What can I say? Bit the cobwebs off this thing.

Knocked the cobwebs off this thing. How do you get over a breakup? Y'all get over a breakup right now? The only way to get over one is get under another. Amen. Good line. So you got a side? Very solid.

Maybe. Maybe I got three. Maybe I got seven. How many is on your roster? There's only one I want, but so he's serious. I'm a bullshitter. So how many you got on your roster right now? Maybe four.

One. Just that one. How many you got on your roster right now? Maybe four. One. Just that one. How many you got on your roster? None. And then the gold. What's one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time? Oh, you got to give him that hawk two and spit on that thing. There's only one I want.

You're going to say that last one one more time. You just spit on his shoulder. What's one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time? Oh, you got to give him that hock, too, and spit on that thing. Let's do the baseball one. She's got swag. Last night in baseball, you have that video? I'm already here.

Might as well. We're in the middle of Hock Tua. He just spit on his shoulder. He was sitting there and went to spit. A little humid out, I guess, and mouth getting a little bit dry. Didn't quite clear his arm and just landed right on the shoulder. Hock Tua. Let's do it again.

Are you serious? I was in a game last night Really? Yeah Major League Baseball It's a thing, Sarah See, now you know CJ Lovegood

Aren't you glad you're here? I'm really questioning my affiliation with this This podcast But now? After all we've been through? My name's not anywhere listed in this In the credits, is it, or anything? Yeah, we tagged you in the tweet.

Is it Google-able? Yeah, sadly. No. Sorry. Look, Sarah approved our run sheet. You know, Tim and D TV. What is that? Man on the street kind of stuff.

It's just, yeah.'s just a million of them. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. TikTok. Yeah. And these ladies were, are they college age? What are.

They appear to be about 21 to 23. Maybe. Well, she was a teacher. So old enough. Probably out of college. Hakatua. Yeah. Was a teacher. Was. No, that Probably out of college. Taktua. Yeah. Was a teacher.

Was. No, that's all fake. Did she lose weight? You got ball sacked. Blake got ball sacked. Blow me up. Blake got ball sacked. Finally, it's him.

Stop the streak. No, I've been following it very closely. I felt bad for her. Yeah, no. She wasn't a teacher. She didn't get fired. That's all fake news. Everything's fine.

Great. Okay, what does she do? She spits on that thing. Okay didn't get fired. That's all fake news. Everything's fine. Okay, what does she do? She spits on that thing. Okay! Get it? So, today in history, actually, I wanted to make sure we do some sponsorships somewhere. It is sponsored by

our Monday Remote. Blake, today we're out live at Dallas Athletic Club. But Monday, where are we going to be? We're at the VFW in Grapevine. Nice. Short drive for you all. Yes, you get to drive across town now.

Yeah. For once. Downtown Grapevine. They're actually having a free lunch for first responders, police, veterans. So if you want some free food and you want to hang out and you're one of those three things. So heroes, first responders, police, veterans, dumzo. Yes. veterans. So if you want some free food and you want to hang out and you're one of those three things. So heroes, first responders, police, veterans, dumzo.

Those four heroes. That's the Mount Rushmore of heroes. Although I'd put us like maybe third or second in there. Not after 9-11. After 9-11 we're second. Before, probably right up on top. Should we go see the memorial? Take a picture in front of it?

Are we that close? I think we're going to broadcast live there at some point. Yeah. Oh. Stay tuned. I don't know what month. Maybe, I don't know, September perhaps. But I don't know what day.

Maybe loop me into that. I don't know. I'll schedule it. We're waiting to hear. It's a sales thing. I don't know. I'll schedule it. We're waiting to hear. It's a sales thing. You wouldn't understand. You were in the sales meeting yesterday. Totally.

I nailed it. You did. That's why you need to bring me into more of them. You should have seen Blake, man. He's so into business now. I can really put on a front, Sarah. He should be an actor. He's really good.

You think? Yeah. I think you should do more spots with Blake. Thank you. We put him in the video. We just made him dress like a prostitute. Yeah, you should do more spots with Blake. Thank you. We put him in the video. We just made him dress like a prostitute. Yeah, you made me up. Yeah, don't do that to him.

You guys are trying to hide his light in the bushel because you know he's a better actor than the two of you. You know we invited somebody else to be in that video. Oh. Was it Charlotte Jones? It was you. Oh, I know. Listen, I'm very busy.

I'm doing like three jobs right now. She's so busy she doesn't know about Huck. That's right. I know. How are you not wasting your time with that? I know. There's a lot of things I don't know. So today is Thursday, June 27th.

On this day in 1973, 18-year-old David Clyde made his Texas Rangers debut. He was an 18-year-old pitcher. He had been pitching in high school a month earlier. But he got drafted by the Rangers, makes his debut in front of a sellout crowd at Arlington Stadium. Actually, three weeks earlier, he went in the draft. He goes five innings, gives up one hit, strikes out eight, and wins the game. He would go on to a Hall of Fame career. Yep.

On this day in 1991, Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, he was the first black jurist to sit in on the nation's highest court, announced his retirement. His departure led to the

nomination of? I don't know. Clarence Thomas. Clarence Thomas. You said sit in on the, I mean, he was sitting on, like he was a Supreme Court. Yeah, it wasn't a sit on. Like you made it sound like you're sitting in.

Like he paid 690 and got to be on the Supreme Court. Oh, that's funny. On this day in 1993, Julia Roberts marries Lyle Lovett. Oh, not going to last. It's true. I saw him at a wedding once. Do you guys think she's beautiful?

No. Really? No. What's going on with people not thinking Julia Roberts is beautiful? Yeah. I think she's my opinion. No, but I know a lot of guys that...

You want to make love to a Muppet? Man. Really? Two haters in here. She looks like a Muppet. Wow. Look at her and tell me no. Look it up.

Google it. On this day in 2021. What if Blake would have said yes? As in, like, it's always been his dream. He just gets so fired up by the Muppets. Some of them are kind of cute. Yeah. Whatever.

Janice, kind of cool. Yeah. Hippie. Yeah. Amen. She's down. And on this day in 2021, F9. Mm.

The ninth installment of the Fast and Furious movie franchise took in $70 million in its first weekend. The biggest opening for a film since the pandemic began. Got my money. I think we have that movie poster. The F9?

Are we on it? Somebody spelled it N-E-I-N. Oh, okay. And... That was a tough one because The Rock wasn't in it. I think he might have already been out by that point. How many months later did they accept their Academy Award? Ten months later, perhaps. Is that Julie Roberts with Elmo?

There's no resemblance at all. No, yeah. I can't tell which one's Elmo. Elmo's cute, but... Julia Roberts is very beautiful, and she was sort of like the epitome of 80s and 90s beauty. Yeah, I never really understood that. And what's interesting is that recently, I've seen a real backlash against her. A lot of men are voicing that they never thought,

excuse me, Julia Roberts was beautiful. And I find this fascinating. Yeah, I mean, I'm willing to go there. Birthdays today of famous people. Current Ranger Jonah Heim is 29. Do you know what they call him, Sarah? His nickname, the Heiman. No, he's not. Yeah. No, he's not.

Yeah. No, he's not. Can I ask a question about Hak Tua? Can I ask a question about Hak Tua? You're going to be thinking about it all day. Actually, it's been on my mind. See, are you glad you came here today? Not really.

At first you weren't. I feel like if I'm going to be doing this, I might as well get some pointers here. Is the idea of this move before? I think it's kind of during. It's just the explosion is just. That makes a man go crazy every time. Oh, you got to give him that huck and spit on that thing. I think it's possibly during or maybe even at the beginning. every time. Oh, you got to give him that hawk poo and spit on that thing. Possibly during

or maybe even at the beginning. Yeah, I think there's probably we're going to lube this up and kick this off. Okay, so that's her kickoff. That's her kickoff. You're also acting like this was a well thought out answer

that she had researched for years in advance of this interview. I was going to say it it seemed like she was... She's pretty confident. It didn't seem like a new idea to her. It seemed like, yeah, it's worked before. Yeah.

Yeah. Former Ranger manager Chris Woodward. Wow. Woody. Is 48. It's not always going to be the guy with the best stats. Chris Woodward used to give out an award after every game. It was a hat.

It sounds so dumb when you repeat it in the postscript. Well, here, let him explain it. So we got a little prize to the player of the game, and I want to explain kind of what it's about, guys, because obviously we have an identity that we want to create here. We talk about culture a lot, we talk about the way we play, and the guy that represents that, it's not always going to be the guy who has the best stats. It's going to be the guy who represents exactly what we talk about. You know, the grit, the competitiveness, the FU mentality, all of that. Everything we've

talked about up to this point. And I'm going to hand that every day. After today, it's going to be you guys. You guys are going to give it to the next guy. So whoever wins today is going to hand it to the next guy. Remember this era? Who got Mr. Hat? Knocked a guy with the best

stats. Got to play with this and fight. Let's see to sing this. And fight. Let's see who got her hat last night. What did you pay her? I think $200. Why don't you tell us these things? $200. That was before we were broke.

Yeah, now we're broke. Now don't ask me for shit, all right? No, I don't ask me for shit alright I don't I knew I'd messed up when I told Dan hey just listen to this if you don't like it we don't have to play it and then he didn't say a word I started playing it

every day I got a feeling that maybe I shouldn't have made that I thought it was great! And then we just started playing it. Every day. What an era. Jordan Alvarez is 27. Who's that?

Baseball. He's a very good hitter for the Astros. Jim Edmonds is 54. He made a great catch in center field for the Astros. Jim Edmonds is 54. He made a great catch in center field for the Cardinals. Also won today's war games. He's just the guy with the highest war of today's

birthdays. Like 60.5. Aren't you surprised it was that high? He's pretty good. No way. Shut up. Tobey Maguire is 49. Spiderman. Khloe Kardashian is 40. Huh.

Why do you say that? What is she? Are you anti-Khloe? Just saying. Especially in this time of grief when she just lost her father. Oh. What? Was this like 30 years ago?

Yeah. No, actually, the juice just passed. Oh, that's right. Just a couple months ago. Wait, that's not – what are you talking about? You think that's her real dad? I just don't think that at all. That's a big rumor.

So did you know she was a big part of Dallas for a while? She lived here with Lance Odom. Yeah, so here. Lamar Odom. For me, the only team I've ever been a part of was the Lakers. I've been to other arenas before, but actually being now a part of the Mavericks organization, it's weird. I'm a little shy to go to the wives' lounge right now.

I'm feeling so taken back. I could only imagine how Lamar feels. Dude, so I was kind of, I was looking for something for the Open or something today. Which we didn't have because of Blake Koff. But, uh. So I was going through old Chloe and Lamar stuff. I can't believe.

Bangers. I can't believe this era happened. Yeah. This is the year after the Mavs won the championship. They signed Lamar Odom or trade for him or something. And I remember even asking Cuban about it, and he got mad. Like, it won't be a distraction at all. It'll be great.

He called the station is what happened. You guys were talking about it. It was at a guy's night out. Oh, was that it? Were you there? No, I was listening. Yeah, I was running the board. I'm pretty sure.

Cuban called. I stopped where I was going, and I stayed in the parking lot to hear this. To, like, defend the move. Yeah. Yeah. And then as this reality show is showing, it was like his first practice. He's exhausted, and she makes him go out house hunting because he doesn't understand. This is important to me and all this.

And he's like, he just wanted to rest. Like a normal pro athlete? Yeah. Yeah. Somehow that failed. They installed a sex swing in the room at the W. As one does. Yep.

I feel like when Cuban is defensive or feels like somebody has nailed him with a critique, that's when he gets really angry and calls a show. It's not an all-the-time thing. No, but I feel like the fact that he called the show is a sign that he knew you were right and he was trying to save face and defend himself. Yeah, defend his guy, too. He needed it to work. I think if I Yeah, defend his guy, too. Yeah. He needed it to work. I think if I was a player for Cuban, I would appreciate all he does.

Yeah. Because he does just defend the player. He once told me he'd get me. I remember that. About the Nick Van Axel thing. I remember you telling me about it. Yeah. Yeah, he made your producer cyber dust him to book him.

He was trying to get a new app off the ground. I'm pro cubes. Yeah. Let's see. Where are we? Oh, Laurie Morgan is 65. Good friend of ours. Country singer?

Why? Oh, no. Who am I thinking of? Laurie Petty. Yeah. Laurie Morgan once dated Troy Aikman. They weren't married? I don't think they were married.

Okay. What do you think of Troy? He's very tall, and he's handsome in person. So hot. He was so statuesque. I mean, I really just... Handsome is a massive understatement. I thought that he would be...

I don't know. For some reason, I thought quarterbacks were smaller. No, that's actually completely wrong. Okay, well, again, I don't know much about sports. It's not fair. I'm just messing with you. It's not fair how he's hot. It was startling how good looking he was.

He's like the perfect human. He's like an Adonis or something. I know. He's so hot. JJ Abrams is 58. Look, everyone. Did we get... He fixed the national anthem.

Everyone is sitting, standing, or kneeling, and no one... Yeah, that's an all-time classic South Park. And Madeline Sweetin is 33. Were you an everyone-loves-Raymond guy?

Everybody loves Raymond? What do you think? Yeah, that was the easiest play on the board. So you know who she is? Allie? Oh, their daughter? Yeah, that was the easiest play on the board. So you know who she is? Ally? Oh, their daughter? Yeah.

Yeah. I think there was a time where Blake could have recited for you the entire CBS primetime lineup Monday to Thursday. Yeah, I think Raymond was on after King of Queens. He loved King of Queens. Blake, how old were you at this time? During Raymond years? Yeah. I don't know, 15?

We all had an era. My mom used to watch King of Queens, so I watched it with her, then I loved it, then spilled in all the rest. Very sweet. She also hated The Simpsons, which is why I never watched it. Oh, yeah. Simpsons were banned from me for a long time. No way. Oh, hell yeah. I mean, I found my ways. Conservative parents did not like The Simpsons, which is why I never watched it. Oh, yeah. Simpsons were banned from me for a long time. No way. Oh, hell yeah.

I mean, I found my ways. Conservative parents did not like The Simpsons. Did those come from conservative parents? Relatively. Yeah. Yeah. They prefer The Cosby Show. Yeah.

This gets some wholesome entertainment from the serial rapist. Yeah. And then watch The Duggars. Yeah. There you go. And, hey, while we're at it, here's a show about a family where they have a big family and the dad is a great dad. He's a pastor and he'll never in real life be brought up on pedophilia charges.

Tonight at 8, it's 7th Heaven. That's right. Born on a stay now dead, Mildred J. Hill. Who's that? She wrote the song Happy Birthday to You No way And this is no lie, she is in the Songwriting Hall of Fame For the song that sung the most

of any song ever Don't you feel like that's kind of a spare song? Should you get in a Hall of Fame for that? I mean on one hand it's spare but on one hand, it's spare, but at the other hand, nobody's taking a run at the throne. Everybody's like, all right, she knocked that one out. She knocked it out.

Chili's or Texas Roadhouse will try their own spin on it, but they can never get... Oh my God. I hate that hearing that. What is the second most sung song? Ooh, that's a good question. Some religious song? Feliz cumpleanos a ti. Probably.

Did you think, was she wealthy? I feel like I've heard a story about how she didn't really get to make money. Here's the second most. Wow. He's learning promotion. I'm giving promotion. Boy, you're on fire today. And born on the stay now dead, Helen Keller.

A favorite of Jake's. Absolutely. You know why? Because she can't hear, she can't see. No. Those are unfortunate details about her life, but there's a reason you only know those two things about her. And it's because she was a very, very ardent socialist who spent a lot of her time trying to help out workers.

Yeah. But they didn't want anybody to know about that part at that time. So they were like, hey, isn't this weird? She can't hear. And they just made that her legacy. Right. Nowhere in the school books. I think I might have learned that from him

at this stage of my life. Several, you know, half a decade ago or so. They didn't want anybody to know that she was at every picket line she could find. Champion of the little man. But it was actually just because she was confused. She could find, yeah.

Yeah. She just happened upon one. I walked into that one. She could find, yeah. Yeah. She just happened upon one. Yeah, I walked into that one. She was walking in the wall. To be fair, the whole can't see, can't hear, and still talks and is a power. Oh, it's incredible. That's an incredible story.

It's not like that was a spare story that they threw out there just because they didn't want you to know about the socialist. No, you're right. It's an incredible note. But I also think they should have maybe told us a little more about what she was really passionate about. But who knows? Yeah, it feels like when they tell you that story as a kid, they just kind of cut it off like, and then she's a teenager. Yeah, and then that's it. Okay, she can see.

And then she did some other things. And your point is that she took all that and she did a lot of socialist reform. Yeah, she was a supporter. That's cool. Comrade. Probably wanted women to be able to vote and stuff like that. Like, put the blinds back on her. How can we?

Pod. Died on this day, Joseph Smith. Oh. The Mormon guy? The Mormon leader. You ever see Book of Mormon? But did he die? Ooh, it's a good question.

Yes, I saw Book of Mormon. It's funny. Great songs. Oh, my God. Orlando, my city. How did you never see that? I don't know. And I saw it twice.

Very uncomfortable scenes in there. I feel like you... Many people left Bass Hall, like people who just had season tickets. They're like 60, 65. And within 15 minutes, they're like,

what the... Yeah. I was worried about and within 15 minutes they're like, what the fuck? Yeah. I was worried about what the Ugandans felt about that. Oh, yeah. It really doesn't. It's pretty racist.

They're baby fucking. They're baby fucking. Yeah. Big old wieners. I feel like you would pass for a Mormon. Like, you could be in Book of Mormon.

That is easily the meanest thing anyone's ever said to me. Early in the day. And I feel like it could get worse for you. Going door to door. I do respect those guys, though. I saw some last week when it was the cool temps of, like, 95 relative to now. Some what? Doorkn knockers.

Oh. You know, and they're walking my neighborhood in dress clothes with backpacks because they got the books in there. And I'm like, commitment. Do you respect them enough to answer the door when they knock on your door? Yeah, but you know what I do.

I haven't done it in a while, but what I used to do was we would debate. Oh my God. There's not enough time in a while, but what I used to do was we would debate. Oh, my God. There's not enough time in the day, Jake. That's the live version of Twitter. They'll tire out. I mean, they have other doors to get to. So if you're just.

And you're there with all day, all the time in the world. Whatever, man. Bait on a Saturday or something. He likes to go vote and debate the guys. You know, there's always someone there ready to tell you how the school board's terrible and we need to get the liberals off the school board. Well, he'll sit there with them for 15 or 20 minutes. I need to meet your wife.

Until they walk away. She's a saint. I have so many questions for your wife. She's a saint. I will say that the last time I went, evidence of a changed man, we moved on. They tried to engage me. You're growing up a little bit. And I just said, you know, I'm not voting for your guy.

And I went in and voted. And that was it. But not before you recorded it. I did. To be clear, they both yelled roll on it whenever I got out of the car to go vote. Yeah, you have to. Rob and Dan talked me into that. Jake, how old are you?

38, 39 in a month and a half. I feel like, and you guys tell me if this is true, I feel like men really just get much better after 35. Like, until 35, they're just, like,

ruled by other things. Our brains are not developed. Their brains are not developed. And they grow a heart at 35. This is what I think. Yeah, sorry. You'll get there, bud. You'll get there.

I'm still in my teed up years. I've always been pretty soft. I cry a lot. I'm a very emotional kid and person. But I also really like conflict. No, I understand. So if there's an opportunity for it, I'm like, fuck. I got nothing to do.

It's your job description. This is what I like doing. But you're giving away the goods for free, you know? Yeah, but also it's kind of like if LeBron would show up to an LA Fitness, it's like, I want to play against these amateurs. That's what it's like whenever I go vote.

You're keeping the sword sharp. It's like, look, this is what I do. Yeah, you're in it for the love of the game. You brought in a ringer. I'm going to remind everybody what we do. And they all tire out. And also died on this day still dead. We have in 1920, Adolph Routhier.

Routhier? There's no way that's how you pronounce that. But Adolph wrote the lyrics to O Canada. Now, we have over here, Happy Birthday to You. That's wild. And we have over here, Oh Canada. What is it about this day in history? No, but my point is, what's better?

You're saying Canada guys should be in the Hall of Fame, possibly instead. Like, Oh Canada, that's a great song. It's awesome. You know, I mean, it ends on a high. It's so great. Happy Birthday to You is really basic. But, so it's longevity. It's Jordan versus LeBron over here.

You've got more points than anyone ever. But also more shots than anyone ever. Yeah, Oh Canada has always been cool to me. It sounds like a Russian anthem from the Bolshevik era, you know? From the early 1900s where it's very sweeping, and it's like, hell yeah. I feel fired up for my country when I hear that song. It doesn't sound like a child's song.

Can I bring up something that's been bothering me as I go to more sports games? I don't love our national anthem, and I don't know anybody that does. Do you kneel? How dare you? No, no. Do you kneel?

Protest. Do you wear a hat just because you can? No. Like a woman can. Women and military people. Over my heart like a good American. But I'm sitting there going, why? Why this one?

Don't you think that it might be time to change the national anthem? Yeah, I mean, we could make it happy birthday. We could make it happy birthday. What about that boot in your ass song? That would work. That's certified. We have a bunch of Hawk Tour remixes. I think now's the time.

Auto-tune it and just lean into the demise of society. Change.org. And that was Today in History. We really do, man. We did it. We did it. We live-streamed today. From a separate location.

This is the first time we've ever... But this is recorded, right? None of this went out live, right? Do you know what live-stream means? When you say live-stream, you don't mean live. I do mean live. We're on now on YouTube. It's right here.

On the world. I know. I listened to you coming over here. Did you really? On the Twitters. Did you like how we were teasing you? We're promoting the hell out of Sarah Heppel every five minutes. Did you hear why we got Julie out of here?

No, I missed that part. Well, we didn't want her here while you were here because we didn't want you guys syncing up. Oh, our periods. Whoa, wait. Well, we didn't want her here while you were here because we didn't want you guys syncing up. Oh, our periods. Whoa, wait. Whoa, what are you saying? Very, very thoughtful. Our intern, Rachel, will reach out to you next week and see. All right, I'll get my Clue app out, track this thing.

Would you like to make any closing remarks or promote anything? Your latest work? I disav vow my participation in this podcast you say that every time no i've never said it before oh i've never said it before um so you will not be back is what you're saying always be back i'm just gonna keep disavowing it okay uh i love you guys it's always fun to see you both uh i do have one question what's no puppets mean oh yeah we forgot to do that so it's kind of a long story but uh back in 2016 in the aforementioned hillary trump debates they started yelling at each other about who was on the take with

vladimir putin and she said something like yeah well of course putin loves you because about who was on the take with Vladimir Putin. And she said something like, yeah, well, of course, Putin loves you because he would love nothing more than a puppet in the White House. And as he's saying that, Trump starts going, no puppet, no puppet. You're the puppet, no puppet. And it's electric. And then I just started saying it all the time. Everything I see has no respect for this person. Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States.

No puppet. And it's pretty clear. You're the puppet. And then I just started, like, TC and I used to call, like, Cowboys Games Live, kind of like what we do with our watch parties. And we eventually stopped doing this, but the first year we did it, we would get fucked up. He would ingest whatever, I would drink whatever.

And it was a night game, so it's probably like 11 o'clock at night. And the Cowboys had a really big comeback, walk-off division win. And I was borderline, Sarah, blackout. But I had a headset on. I have trademarked

that term, so I appreciate you. I was not on top of anyone. But I did have a headset on, and we'd been drinking whiskey all night, and the Cowboys won, and I just started drunkenly yelling, no puppet. So that's the drop that we play is me just yelling, no puppet. No puppet.

So that's actually you saying that? Yeah. But he slows it down. Super drunk. And he slows it down to make it even worse, which is completely unnecessary because I'm already. No. No. So it's not quite that bad,

but it's bad. Oh my... No puppet, no puppet, no puppet. Yeah, there we go. Gosh, this has so much more depth and meaning now. No puppet, no puppet, no puppet. And it's the name of our company.

It's the name of our company. We're no puppet. Because we are not puppets. Yeah. To the man. Yeah. That's the story. That's a great story. Yeah. That was man? Yeah. That's the story. That's a great story.

Yeah. That was fantastic. I'm glad she remembered that. We talked about it in the break. She brings it up as a closing remark. That's solid. You should do a podcast. I'll think about it.

Adios, mofo. What's one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time? Oh, you gotta give him that fuck, dude. Spit all that thang. Fuck, dude. Spit all that thang. Fuck, dude. Spit all that thang. You get me? Fuck, dude. Spit him that Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing

Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing Fuck, twos, fiddle that thing No puppet.