The Dumb Zone FREE - Thunder win the title, KD traded, and maybe OJ Simpson didn't do it | DZ 6-23-25

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

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Ah. Oh. The preceding and the following content Oh. The preceding and the following content are brought to you by No Puppet Productions and The Dumb Zone. And number one, it's an odd thing that's being promoted. I guess we can stop and start if we need to, but here's Chip Carey, baseball announcer. Disability Pride Night is Thursday, July.

What? Ha ha ha ha. Have we taken this shit too far? Uh. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. All right, indeed. Happy Monday. You have a case of the Mondays? Me? No.

You all right? Yeah. Okay. I know you're not talking to me. I must look horrible then. What do you mean? Well, if you're asking me if I have a case of the Mondays. Oh, you think it's great.

You're fired up. I'm pretty fired up, yeah. I'm excited to be here. We are coming at you live to tape today, not from our Game Day Men's Health Studios in downtown Dallas. We're far away from downtown Dallas. Would you say deep in the heart of the state that we live in? Yeah, I would say we're deep and in heart.

Yeah. We're kind of north of Waco. Well, I guess you'd be north of Waco if you were in Grapevine. Um, we're really close to Waco, though. It was a two-hour drive to get here. We're at a ranch. It's called the Triple D Ranch. And my name is Dan McDowell.

I'm Jake Kim. I'm Blake Jones I think Clayton Kimbrough may be having a case of the Mondays Henry seems like he's just Henry he's our intern and we're here at the behest of the guys who we have met before we were at their business. Is it called The Spy Center? Yeah. Yes. Where they sell like spy equipment.

Like I was worried. C-E-N-T-R-E, because we're cool. Yeah. Because they're Canadian. Go back where you came from. Were you concerned when you asked these guys, hey, can I use the bathroom? And you go in there looking for all red light dot.

Oh, they always have red lights blinking when that's interesting. I didn't even think of that. Uh, cause I was talking to my wife about it yesterday, reliving the trip to the, the spy center. And, uh, she's like, well, what sort of stuff do they have? I'm like, whatever you can think of'm like, whatever you can think of. Like literally whatever you can think of. The Spies song. The pen that's recording your audio.

The teddy bear. I'm sure. Glasses that are recording. Yeah, all of it. And also after we did our show out there, it's in Plano, right? Plano proper. TC, who grew up in Plano, told me that among the youth up there, that place was legendary. Like just imagine you're driving by it every day with your parents and you're eight or nine.

Oh, I'll bet. You're like, what? I'll bet. We have a spy store? Dude. And then you learn the backstory, which of course, what was going to be the backstory? To a guy who owns a spy shop shop like he got out of real estate Yeah, of course not an accountant. What was he was he a cop? He was a private investigator. Oh, yeah. He was a spy yeah

That's not like a yeah, it's not a pivot from from private equity You know I wonder if Trump's like that cuz you you'll say Trump likes things that 13 year old you would like like he loves The action movies he loves just kick-ass McDonald's yeah, you know war either like really impressed like oh look at these guys They broke down the old Shane Gillis bit, you know, he You know, he's the one guy without military experience in the room And then he comes out and tells what he saw like all our oh, our guys, they don't go through the door. They don't knock.

They blast through the wall. It's incredible. He's bewildered. And like, if I was president, wouldn't you be, if you were president, wouldn't you be geeked to go into the, all right, where's our spy situation? Let's see, what are all the stuff, the gadgets we have? What are all the, how do we have what are all the how do we track people let's watch that listen one of my favorite

scenes in any movie any action movie is the gear scene gotta have a good gear up scene these guys just live in the gear up scene there's just like a montage plane and they're loading shotguns and like calibrating things. They got the gear. So also, as I recall, when we were out there before, they were talking about their dad, Earl. I don't think that's his name. Actually, their dad, who had written a book about how OJ didn't do it.

OJ is innocent, and I can prove it by William dear So We'll have to we're gonna do a big book review you read the whole book Yeah, it took me some time to get to it But it just sat on my shelf and I knew I had to get to it eventually because I knew nothing about the OJ case. And typically if a listener gives me a book, I'm going to read it. And I got around to it, I devoured it, it's amazing.

And I'm very, very excited to talk about it. I'm surprised that you were able to read a book without steamy sex scenes in it. Right, without an affair. Well, but you're missing there was a murder. There was a murder, and it's kinda steamy. So murder and intrigue will keep you? Yeah. Well, it was in the, one of the OJ shows,

remember a couple OJ shows were popping out at the same time? Of course. And the one was talking about how Nicole would give a Brentwood hello? Of course, how could I forget? Which would be a bewood. Hello, of course how can I be a Beach to just neighbors like she'd wake them up in that way. I'm like god damn my neighborhood sucks

We got the Graceland thing or is not does not suck. I suppose Anyway So well, that's like a big portion of our program today. Just doing a book review And talking about whether or not we believe That OJ did it or not. When did when did William pass? July of last year OJ passes April of last year interesting That's very what's the actually not very interesting at all. Well I just think it's the two

people who were the most determined to find the real killer both passing within a matter of months of one another because he was there. Maybe it was just getting too close. William was alive when we were at the spy shop and there was an article that CBS must have come out there and done something on this last just last February. else happened in April last year? What happened in April last year? Hey, pop on. There's a mic over there for you. So, that's the mic here?

Well, get to the mic before you start talking. Yeah, that's the mic. April of last year, I had reached out to Jake. We were talking about OJ leading up to a 30-year anniversary, and I said, Jake, I think it would be amazing. I could have my dad come in a studio and bring some of the evidence that he has. And he said, awesome.

Hey, send me an email. Traded some emails. I kinda got ghosted. Oh no, then he passed. Two months later, then he passed. So you're telling me we could have had William Deere on a program. This is not information.

He is the most charismatic deer. So we'll try to live up to that. But somebody got a little busy. Yeah. A little busy. April was busy. Thanks, pal. He sets the mic down.

Thank you. Yep. Look, 2024, not the year of Jake. So you're stuck. Nobody's ever saying it was. You're stuck hearing me talk about the book instead of the person who wrote it. And visited the crime scene, was face to face

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part of the weekend Friday night I was straight up solo and I went home after our fantastic time at the Constellation Club Good time had by me. I guess that's all I can really speak for And I just Went home posted up no kids just started running through the documentary train. Okay. And then pretty much just crashed.

Had to get the kids early the next morning. What documentaries were you hitting? I'm done with Karen Reed. Like I said, I'm done with Ben Laden. Um, and then I, I guess what, I watched like a couple talk shows, but I just, time was not a thing for me. I fell asleep at nine, woke up at at 2 went back to bed at 6 whatever

that's weird picked up the kids at 9 and I Did I did try to plan a dad party? So I had like four or five dudes and their kids come over and that just killed the whole day The pool was a cheat code dude. Yes. It's an undefeated cheat code because other people who might not really want to come over Well, if they don't have a pool now, they're coming over now They're bringing their kids now watching my kids is not a beating and you could shop for your next vehicle right there You could I did yeah fairly stunning That's exactly right at the pool. It was a Kumar rocker start. So, you know, everybody was was hyped for that Saturday afternoon

I watched the first like I only watched like a half hour of the bin Laden documentary Mm-hmm, but I gotta just say just I was telling you last night on the phone Just the first 15 minutes setting up the hunt for bit cuz it's like called bin hunt for bin Laden or something It's American man hunt which Actually has done an OJ It's the same thing. They've done OJ. They've done a couple of other criminals, but you know certain movies will set up something and then you get the actually the movie title is at 15 minutes in because they had

That's the way this is and it's incredible 15 minute like recap on what led to that point and yeah it's worth your time I thought it was a just that was amazing and then it's great because I'm watching that concurrently with I'm still working through like World War two in color on Netflix and I gotta admit I didn't know about the battle of Midway, bro, good. I think the Pacific. Underrated. Battles are, yeah, underrated because perhaps we focus

a lot on, you know, Normandy and Germany and all that, but that was pretty bad ass, the whole. Yeah. We, they thought they were sucking us into something, but we were sucking them into something. And yeah, it was a good war weekend. Oh yeah, big time. Big war memes. Did you see, I loved people putting the, whoever was in charge of Japan at the time, like just

putting him on Trump's tweet, but making it about Pearl Harbor. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Time for peace is now. Everybody chill out. We've now bombed you. Now it's time for peace. Not to break into full TV talk here, but have you seen the full season of Tires?

No, about halfway through. OK, well then I'd like to wait on my review of the season finale until you have watched it as well. OK, well, with all this newfound time Since I was I've been waiting for someone to ask me Hey, where were all these books you were reading? Like you weren't really telling us about it Yeah, you did say I free up all this time by so if people haven't heard Jake is retired from reading Books, okay. I read a lot this weekend. You've just quit books? Yes.

The pressure of books. Because you've always got a book you're like well I need to be reading this book. I've got two of them right now. Yeah. I'm quitting. It probably was the last time you made the SNL, the very fair SNL book joke of oh was that the book that you started reading ten years ago and will never finish? That's when I thought, we're done. I think it is literally 10 years ago. It's about that. Because that's when I read it.

And afterwards, you were like, yeah, I'll read this too. It sounds great. And it is great. So the only thing I wanted to tell you guys about from weekend, though, was yesterday, so wife came home from her party weekend and I was already like I was in bad shape because as I told you guys I got the kid getting out of bed and potty training at the same time so he's coming to my room at 2 a.m. and he's ready to party and I'm like kind of up for it like last night when he went

to bed yeah Kristen was putting him down and he was like, when I have to pee, I'll get up, get dad, we go watch cars. Oh man, see that's- Because at 2 a.m., three of the last four- You rewarded it. I know. The fact that you did it once. I know. Yes, now this, oh, so this is what happens?

I know. That's why you gotta beat him. I know. That's what our parents would have done, right? How about I get out the belt and teach you about this, son? I was tired, but then the wife came home from party weekend, and my mom wanted to watch the kids a little bit. So I was as free as can get from about noon, 12, 30 on tomorrow,

for basically the rest of the day. And that's when I experienced or did something terrible, which is the regret nap a Nap should be a rewarding. Yeah Fulfilling relaxing time. What do you mean regret? But I knew that I had a lot of shit that I wanted to get done over the next five hours and I had Complete runway to do it, but I woke up and three of those hours were gone and I was so Three hours. Yeah, that's so pissed. Three hours? Yeah. That's insane.

I hadn't slept. You could have set an alarm. I was going to say that ruined your night, getting to bed that night. I mean, I worked it out. But my point is just like, I'm like, I have the whole day. Probably you're almost always you're missing a workout. And that's going to make you feel even worse.

Because instead of working out, you not only didn't work out, you laid there like a fat fuck and your mouth's all dry because you're napping, your clothes are on, you have a belt on. That's not sleeping. It's horrible. That's a good gauge on whether or not it's a good sleep. Yeah, if you have a belt on,

you are 100% not relaxing. And you wake up and you're just pissed like nothing got done. It's just it's a frustrating feeling Did I not caffeinate properly? It's just a waste of time For my weekend check I do want to Just a shout out to the Constellation Club a little postgame our Friday program we did from like three to six so a little little late for some people's tastes but you know that's what we are we're mobile we can be where you want when you want us look at where we are right now that's right we're in the

middle of Texas now calm no No, it's a good time I met we have an email er who emails every week. I believe he currently 55 his wife is 35. I Don't recall their names, but she said that I had maybe called her a dirty name Hmm. You called her a crazy bitch. Yeah on when emailing one Year, and she said, you know, like, I'm that and worse and I'm your worst nightmare. She was a lot and I was scared

and I will not call her that again. I thought they were fun. They were very fun. Yeah. Guys live in the dream. I do want to let people know when we're at events or when you run into us, some of us at Lowe's or wherever it is. Because I was walking, so when I got there, I ran into a guy in the parking garage.

And the parking garage, you get some steps if you're going to go to the Constellation Club. It's for fit people. Yeah. You got to, first you go to Game Day Men's Health, and then you go to the Constellation Club. There's no doubt a bunch of people at the Constellation Club are also clients of Game Day Men's Health.

Yeah, people live their best lives. The Venn diagram, yes. There's a lot of crossover there because it helps you stay strong. So I'm walking with this guy, and after a few, the, hey, pleasant, like he had a dumb zone shirt. So he's clearly there for us. He's wearing shorts. Like, I don't think the Constellation Club has ever

seen that many pairs of shorts in one sitting. I don't know how it is, but it feels high-toned. Yeah. And then we were there with our crew. And then it was kind of like a 10 minute walk, kind of uncomfortable. Like I was talking to him a little bit. And then I ran into him later, like hours later.

And he said, oh man, I didn't want to beat you down when we were walking, about this or that, or the ticket, or this. I'm like, man, that's what we had. Did you think I'd rather ask where you lived and about your Like, have any of your kids died? I'm just, yeah, that'll just get me in trouble. You already know a lot like and that's,

I don't know anything as you know, you're a big listener. So the things I do know are, you know, inner workings of the tick. You want to know something about that? You want to know something about our contract negotiations that we've never talked about on the, that's your time. That's your time, I'll open up to you. I'll tell you just about anything.

Grounding? You wanna talk about grounding? The drive? Your ass is there, our ass is there to be whipped. Were you upset at the, yes I was upset. I was at the drive, we drove home on side streets. It was terrible, so yes. I wanna talk about that kind of stuff

you think it's beating us down it is not like that's all I got so don't worry about it please yeah I mean that's just my message to those that we meet in the future that say I don't want to beat you down. That is a problem that is unique to you because in my experience roughly 95% of the world is trying to stop drinking. So I kind of have a. Oh, no. Everybody that comes up to you, you're like, hey, dude. The worst is, and I don't say worst,

I just want to tell everyone, I don't think I ever told you guys this story, but we were in group one day, and there was a guy who worked there. He was an old man. I probably did tell you guys this. He'd drive the golf cart around, drive you to the doctor if somebody had to go to town old retired like Air Force veteran Mexican guy and he spoke up at a a one night because he just wanted to be like relating to us And his story was that his wife is consistently having two margaritas a night

And he's like, I don't know, you know, should I be concerned? Like, we're like, bud, no, that's not, that's not sending you to rehab. Uh, but people will come up to me now. No, he worked there. Oh, okay. He was a guy who drove the golf cart. Like he was a security, whatever. And we're all talking and he's like, yeah, my wife, you know, I don't know, man. No, should I be concerned?

My point in this is people will come up to me while they're having beers and be like, I promise I'm trying to cut back. I'm like, please don't know, man. Should I be concerned? My point in this is people will come up to me while they're having beers and be like, I promise I'm trying to cut back. I'm like, please don't. Don't tell me that. Had another guy run into me there and said, hey, I saw you at the ice cream place with your daughter and so I didn't want to bother you. I'm like, dude, that'll,

you have to validate that I'm somewhat famous You know if you do just at least say something then yeah, but can you fault anyone with the context? We've laid for daughter. Yeah, I mean I know him and I don't want to talk to him. Yeah, that's true And then here's okay two other quick hits and then quick hits. And then tomorrow, I'm just going to tease, or for later in the week. Because I spent quite a bit of yesterday at the mall. And it's too much topics for today. The mall?

I actually went to the mall for the first time in a long time. And I have a review of the mall, a full review of the mall. Can you at least, can we whet the appetite by telling us which one? Grapevine. Okay, Grapevine Mills. Yeah. Okay, that's a mall to be explored. It's thriving. But yes, I have a lot. I have a lot from the mall. So get excited for that. I tried the sauna for the first time, went to the gym on Saturday. So God, you texted me about that. Jake has been telling me for months, dude, you got to do the sauna for the first time, went to the gym on Saturday. You texted me about that. Jake has been telling me for months, dude, you got to do the sauna.

Yeah. All right. Yeah, whatever. I don't know. Do they have a sauna at the 24 hour? They do. I learned that. Got to go through the pool to get there.

Well, not like you got to walk. You don't have to swim. Yeah, you can walk around the pool. But I just never knew where the sauna was. Yeah. Because I've never been at the pool. They, you can walk around the pool. But I just never knew where the sauna was. Yeah. Because I've never been at the pool. They have a really tiny little skinny pool. It's weird.

Yeah, it looks like a rehab pool. It's a two-lane pool. Yeah. And it's really hot if you're in the sauna. But I also didn't know. I didn't get undressed. My experience with the sauna is old men naked or just wearing a towel. But this is by the pool where men and women can walk in.

So I just walked in after working out, went in there for a few minutes, was texting Jake, worrying about my phone. And I stayed for about five or six minutes and it was pretty pretty brutally hot I didn't know what to do afterwards are you supposed to cold bath it after like oh yeah I mean I just left yeah I think just want to tell you that I tried the sauna well I'm happy for you I don't know how much five minutes does at the end of what are you supposed to do 20 20. Oh.

Yeah. Okay, well I couldn't bring in my phone then, I don't think. I mean, I put it in my pocket, and if it stops working, it stops working. It's just not gonna, it just is like if it's outside. It just says, you know, chill out, bro. But Sauna's, yeah.

That's the guy that spent some of his weekend at the Apple Store. I don't know if you wanna listen to him. Yeah, just take your phone into 150 degrees that'll be good for it. Do you still have tiny computer? Yeah. Yeah I do. It was like four weeks ago you...

Weren't you telling us that you took your computer into the sauna? Did you? Yeah dude, I took my headset. Alright, alright. So, but then last night, this is my last weekend thing. Or maybe this was Saturday night. I can't remember. My dog, I have two dogs, two toy poodles. One is Kip, one is Bodhi.

And Kip is the only one that will chew bones and things like that. And so I'm here and hearing chewing but I don't care because he's that's his bit. Chews very loud. And after a while it like just seemed excessive and it was long and I was like it also sounds different. There was a little bit of a different tone to it. And so then I had to go around look at it and oh my gosh he It's funny. This is for later in the week to Tom emu Tom

had Snail mailed us a box and there's something in there that I will present to you guys later in the week But in it are a lot of packing peanuts and For some reason my dog just started eating them, like a lot of them. Those will be fun. And he's pounding them. And my dog also has like an iron gut.

Like a few weeks ago, he ate some chocolate. And so my wife got really concerned in his reading internet. And then she made him drink peroxide, because supposedly that's supposed to make him puke. He never puked and there was no problem with it. Like he ate chocolate in the foil wrapper. He ate the foil wrapper. He ate the chocolate. He chased it with peroxide. Then he drank a bunch of peroxide and he's just fine. He's like the norm of dogs. That's awesome. Norm Hitchkiss could eat anything. So he ate a ton

of packing peanuts. Like I don't know how many. And so I'm online and this isn't the only dog who has done that. But it was at night. And you know I might have had some early bird gummies. I'm like not in the mood to deal with this, let alone anything. And I'm thinking about driving to the animal hospital and all this kind of stuff. And then thinking, I don't know, I've had this dog a long time, it's been a good run.

Why would I have to even, like if he died, you know, whatever, I'll get a new one, it'll be fun. But I thought I shouldn't do that. Isn't it great that you can search anything on the internet and it's happened to someone else? Like we live in a great era. Because if it was 2008, you have to go to a Yahoo board and see if someone had posted that

and there's a message board now. It's just, oh, here's an article here, AI will summarize it. It's a great time to be alive. It is great. And I saw, now now this it might not have been great but I saw a lady or somebody who it's probably a lady who said they called the 20 this happened to their dog they called the ER vet she informed me that if the packing peanuts disintegrate they're made of cornstarch

so the dog should be okay apparently there are two kinds of packing peanuts. Now you've got to Google. Or if it's Styrofoam, that's bad. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I just Googled on Blake's point, because something about that peroxide thing seemed not right to me.

And it's not right. You should not do that. I should not give the dog peroxide? No. Oh, wow. But you said your wife looked that one up. That's why I figured either it didn't get looked. It sounds very wives' tailie.

Even recently, I did it. I remember my old dog, Cornelius. We did that once because he ate a tray full of something. But he also might have just puked because he ate a tray full of something. Right. And I told you guys Nora got stung by the jellyfish. And you always hear to urinate on it.

It's not true. And I tried to explain that to a couple of our other family members. And they're like, it is. And my proof is internet. So who's right? But I think giving peroxide to an animal is a bad idea, confirmed by science.

Well, he seems fine. He's undefeated. But, and then they write in this Reddit post, so I found a packing peanut, ran it under water, and it did disintegrate. Does that save me a trip to the vet? So that's what I did. I took one of the peanuts, put it under water, and yes.

Little stem work. It disintegrates. And then I felt very at ease, not worried about having to go to the vet. Then you actually just replaced all of both of their food with packing peanuts. Right, why not? Now knowing that they're simply a flavored corn starchy treat. Here he is, folks. Clayton is holding Mike, seems like he wants to get in here.

Can we just go ahead and say Jake's in his burger era correct? Yeah. You missed a prime burger Friday. What are we looking at? The El Gallo from Constellation Club. Oh. Now did you learn? this you did not learn about this on reddit. So I learned about this firsthand. Okay their food did look

amazing. Wagyu beef patty. Oh Dan you know about that wagyu. Barbacoa underneath it. What? Fried egg and a pepper jam like a spicy jalapeno pepper jam on top that's That's right up my alley Dan and where do you fall on putting eggs on everything? The Friday I'm pro you are yeah, I love it. It's an easy Easy little protein good for you, right? Love it. I mean, I don't know how great the fried egg is But it's better than but my it's Feels like it's from the makers of bacon

Yeah, I just feel like bacons were over bacon you you you don't put a fried egg on Lobster or shrimp but people will just like hey, I don't know about this awesome seafood I should wrap bacon around it like Like, no, no, no. That's not how this works. You ever had egg on pizza? No. Dude. Really?

Like in Switzerland, which I guess is just kind of fake Italy, they will have, they'll crack like a, I guess it's fried, but I don't know, man. Something they're doing on top of the mozzarella. They've got just a nice even egg laid out some brunch places will do a breakfast pizza Yeah, it's fantastic, but this it is that but it's also not just breakfast pizza. It's pizza with an egg on it's phenomenal Yeah, no that was I've had that before but the just El Gallo at Constellation. Yep. Give it a shot If you're there, please go and try it

It's kind of set a back so So I've got a bad bit that I encountered in my algorithm over the weekend. And it comes from an author, Caitlin Brooke. C-A-Y-T. Is this just Caitlin? My goodness. Caitlin Brooke. 30,000 followers, ton of tweets, has written seven books.

I think she's just an ordinary author. Oh, bro, I saw this. Is this, okay, go ahead. I would like to chalk it up as a bad bit, okay? You know, most of her tweets, 100 likes, 200 likes, tweets a lot, a lot of pictures. She'll just take a picture of herself holding one of her books and say, happy Monday,

here's to reading your special book today. Well, she posted a picture online, this was about a week ago. It's her in a, what looks like an empty bookstore, and it says, no one showed up for my book reading event. I know this happens and I'm trying really hard to keep it together, but I feel terrible that the shop stayed open to host me for nothing.

And in this era of social media, this has 22 million views, 12,000 retweets, 400,000 likes, and her book popped over the weekend. Yeah. So basically, hey, these people are being mean to me or people are not being nice to me, make me feel better online, and they do. And they rush to buy her book, and this reward,

just like Carter watching Cars at 2 a.m., you're rewarding this behavior by buying this person's book. And she has a bad book, it's not good. Nobody wanted to hear her read it. Okay, that doesn. And she has a bad book. It's not good. Nobody wanted to hear her read it. OK, that doesn't mean she has a bad book. But. Here's her bio. Lover of dark fantasy worlds, orange cats, and Earl Grey tea,

horror enthusiast. Listen, they could not have created a more basic white woman that's why Hillary lost if we try. We all agree on that. I'm just continuously amazed by all we hear about is how negative social media is. That's what I wanted to say. How terrible and rude and how it's tearing apart the fabric of discourse but every time someone does something super gay they make a million dollars. Yeah. Because everyone's like very good for you we're gonna lift you up it's it's always with bad bits it is every bad bit is rewarded and sometimes like I get it if it's a sick kid then you're

like but this is just a lady saying nobody nobody showed up okay well you go back you show up again tomorrow you just just keep grinding. She's been at a million of these things. Right. This is not her first rodeo. But you know what I'm saying? Like if you post, hey, nobody sent my kid a such and such. Every other kid in the class, then you get 10,000 of them and Barack Obama sends you something. Then it's like, that's a bad bid, but fine, whatever. What if a comedian did bombed on stage tonight bubble. I don't know yeah, it just feels Bad times no one listened to today's episode. We've worked really hard on it

Yeah, I mean sorry maybe the episode sucked right you're considered that your book sucks and that you suck and then now yeah, she's just she's just Constantly tweeting how thank- she's blowing up! Yeah. No, this is horrible. Jake, I don't know if this made it to your atmosphere over there, but it was a bad week- or a bad weekend for the crunchy or granola community. Because this article came out that states,

glass bottles found to have five to 50 times as many microplastics as plastic bottles in shocking new study. Oh, no. Did you show your wife? Not yet. OK. She's not ready. No.

Long weekend at work. I didn't want to hit her with this. But I'll be sending it to her shortly, because our cupboard, whatever, is just full of glass containers now. Yeah, I showed you guys my organized Tupperware for Father's Day the other day, and my wife was pissed that I didn't confirm that they are glass. She doesn't want to be looked at as a plastic owner.

And so, yeah, it says glass bottles. I would imagine it's the same thing as the glass container that we're microwaving. Yeah, what are we going to throw away all the glass stuff we have now and get plastic? And now we're going back to plastic? I don't know. This is kind of like the, how do you lose weight?

Oh, you have to eliminate fat from your diet. No, no, now you have to eliminate carbs. You diet. No, no, now you have to eliminate. Carbs. Carbs, yeah, now you have to eliminate, just calories, it doesn't matter, carbs or fat, it doesn't matter what you eat, it's just, just count calories. Like there's all those different things in the eras.

For a long time, I feel like, well, we haven't been around that long, but the ethos of this show is just, none of it, nothing matters. Nothing. That's basically what I arrive at whenever I open up your Yuca app and find out that even honey nut Cheerios are poor.

Trash, food, capitalist food to make you sick. There's nothing I can eat out there that's good and enjoyable. I bet out here they eat off the land. Well, yeah. Live off the land. Well, yeah. Live off the land. Use every part of the buffalo. Right.

And then my last thing is we have now entered the age where I'm now nervous when Brooks talks to other people because of what he might say. Because of what he's hearing at home? I don't mind that, like if he curses or something. In fact, he is now, which I think is pretty funny. But I'm getting this second hand. And while he was out with my wife the other day, a full-blown midget walked by.

And Brooks, what I hoped would happen is, why is that person so short? Are they three like me? Whatever. But he opted for the, and I kid you not, this is what she said, the full point and laugh. My kid got in trouble at Montessori School for doing that.

I don't know if it was the first little person she had ever seen. And yeah, but I remember that day. I had never seen him or heard about him pointing and laughing at anything. But as they go waltz and by he is... Why'd you say... you said waltz as if when they walk it's sort of a whimsical, fantastical... I don't think they have the same gait as we do.

You're saying a little person cannot powerfully walk? No. Okay. I'm just asking. I think their dimensions keep them from doing that. I think they walk differently than we do. There's so much interesting here. If I walked a mile with a little person on my, they'd get more steps. Sure.

And that's unfortunate. But you would cover more ground if you're going for miles. No, but I'm saying we're just walking together talking. The step as a unit of measurement, Dan would be losing. Yeah, and all of a sudden, so this is another thing where the regular sized white male in America doesn't have it as good as everyone else. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah there's a lot here. The first thing I'm thinking is how did Brooks immediately know? I don't know either. I mean was he talking and...

Seriously I pitched and... No. No a little person looks like an adult who is small. I know, to us. But if you've never seen it before, I don't know how you would immediately just be like. Well, apparently we're learning that it's there. It's a funny thing to see. Yeah. Well.

And my wife debated stopping her and saying I'm sorry. I told her to go with the Dan McDowell route and don't apologize, because she might not have seen or heard. And it's not just that they might not have seen or heard. I think it's, jokes aside, kind of tough for us to really weigh in on this, as the people they just described,

but I get the sense from a lot of people who do have, whether it's a disability or anything that makes people look at them, like they'd prefer you not apologize. Like they're just, I won't say used to it, but they get it. Listen, dude, every midget knows that when they were three, if they were a regular sized person

and they saw a person with dwarfism, they would be like, that is what they know You know, I hope so it's different if it's like a race thing like if your kid clearly is like Haha, or like talking down to somebody but if it's just like look that's funny and I'll tell you what this is why As much as I I do support trans rights I do at times thinks we have to stop it it it just a look at the take some time to adjust because it's

in a vacuum very funny the bruce jenner is a woman now it's it's hilarious and i we should be allowed to comedy wise yet it is going to handle it well if one year it year a kid comes back and is a boy instead of a girl? Bruce Jenner especially. There's a lot funny about that. Well that gets funny because he's also anti-trans or she is. Yeah, but it's not that... Yeah, it's the history of Bruce Jenner. It's all that entails. We can say Bruce Jenner is exceptionally funny.

Like maybe the funniest trans person in the world. It's tailor-made. Feels like a Psy-op. But I mean, if anything, Blake, your wife could have stopped and said it's a little bit weird that they were dressed and walking with like six other dwarves and a lady. That was a bit much. You're asking for it bit much at that point

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I put stuff in the folder, he plays it. It was a big sports weekend. There was an NBA Finals? It really was. For about 7 minutes. It was a big sports weekend. There was an NBA Finals. It really was. Very, very disappointing. Yes. When something like that happens, especially in that game, you know, you want to feel, you want to know that you know, both teams were at full strength. You want to... Yeah, but that's never happening and the best team won.

So it's still an, I heard the hoop collective guys, one of them say best playoffs run without a title and it's got to be up there. Indiana? Yeah, from the three seed to the... Obviously, you could have been saying... Yeah, yeah, but it's still storybook I think if they had won last night without Halliburton I would have begrudgingly put them a step ahead of ahead of the Mavs I think it would have been close but now they don't have

the same murderers row I would put the Mavs competition in 2011 up against theirs but losing your star in a game seven would be, that would be a little bit more than what the Mavs put up with, but it'd be on par at least with Dallas. It is interesting that they were able to win a title, but the Durant-Westbrook-Harden team was never able to win a title, only went to one finals, right? The year after the Mavs. So much much of the NBA and I guess you could say this is about any sport

but it's just timing you know there's just how many teams in the in the West were title worthy during Jordan's run or you know in the East during the Showtime Lakers run it's just it's the way it works I mean hell the Mavs were good enough to win more than one title They had the second most wins in basketball for 20 years Just doesn't always work out dude though Speaking the Mavs. I mean that's I kept thinking that all yesterday like the Mavs could have gotten past Oklahoma City They could have don't know if they would have but I think they would have had as good of a chance as anybody Especially because they kind of own them, you know. They're kind of their dad as far as,

they're in their heads a little bit. It would have been a big thing for Oklahoma City to get past the Mavs in the playoffs. And just Luke, the roster construction, not now, now it's shit, but what it was, I really think they could have been back there this year in one at all, man. Yeah.

I really think it makes me very, very sad, because I know there's some optimism with people who currently identify as Mavs fans, which I do not. But I feel like it's got a lot of work to do, and there's a lot more uncertainty as far as Anthony Davis and Kyrie staying healthy for a whole year and a whole playoff run. Way more than Luca at the age of 26. You know?

Good luck to him. I don't care. I'm just telling you it just got me thinking more that everything NBA does make me sad. And especially last night, because I'm like, god, what if the Mavs had that? Oklahoma City would have been the toughest test. And if they got past them, I think they'd definitely beat Indiana. Yeah, Indiana, you know, Boston staying healthy

could have been a problem. But that just lets you know how fleeting all this is. Boston was set up great. Boston has, I mean, I don't know how fleeting all this is. You know Boston was set up great. Boston has I mean I don't know maybe a chance next year but Boston's gonna be probably third or fourth at best. Projection for win total. Data missing almost the whole year. Now here comes Halliburton missing a whole year. This is why you don't trade your superstar because their seasons are worth its gold. It can get you to the finals and

The things I was thinking about last night were hey Nico was actually trying to force Luca back When he had a calf injury and Luca was on his timetable and you can argue with that but Tyree Salliburton rushed back and admitted as much and knew the risks and now his Achilles popped and they're no longer a contender next year. Is that the same thing that happened to KD? Yeah. In the finals one year? The Toronto finals? Clay? Did that happen to him too? When KD limped out there to take free throws or something? The KD one for sure. What happened to Kyrie this year? Different? ACL. ACL.

That's right. Yeah, because he may be back. But Jeff Stotz, the sports doctor on Twitter, says this is the eighth tear of the season for the Achilles. Previous high was five in 14-15. It just seems like it's happening a lot, but the sample size is pretty small, so it may be random. Three in the playoffs, right?

Yeah. But if you just look at the way this sets up, having Luca, Luca would have been the best player on the floor last night, which is why you would have felt confident. And Luca's going to miss a full season at some point, too. You almost just have to figure, I mean, that's the norm. Yeah, that's the whole bit. I mean, go back to Luca again,

that if you have the best player on the floor, you have a chance, even when it's Luca surrounded by the pooh-pooh that he used to be surrounded by. Blake and Garza's Cardinals. When they, yeah, when they, you know. You know put that on Reggie Bullock got to the Western Conference Championship that won here Lee Yeah, so that that's what I'm saying is just SGA was the MVP, but Luca would have been the best player on the floor. Yeah, okay

he is not a better player than Luca and Nobody in the NBA thinks that he is so And I hate him. I don't like SGA and I'll tell you what Seeing him and all his teammates wearing goggles in their celebration is really all I need to know Yeah But that's pretty way right? Yeah, well, it's fitting because they're know. Yeah. That's fitting, right? Yeah, well it's fitting because they're lame. Yeah. They're lame.

We should have, if you're going to be like the young... I want them to be excite... They're not even really that exciting. Their first sip of champagne, I'm not saying you have to be like a drunk to be fun, but their team is just too dorky. Their AT&T commercials suck. SGA's not even really that exciting like a drunk to be fun, but their team is just too dorky their AT&T commercials suck SGA is not even really that exciting of a player to me

He's it's it's to Harden is a more exciting foul hunter than SGA to me Harden was a more exciting He's like fun fun to watch. Yeah Infuriating maybe but but fun. There's just nothing fun about their team to me. I wish they still had Steven Adams. Something. But no. And I think right now they're as set up as any team in the history of professional sports, at least in the modern era where we've had free agency

and trades and the like. There's never been a team that is this set up while already winning a title. They're about three years ahead of schedule. Right, usually you got a second youngest team in the league. You've got all your assets to be able to win a title. They still have the most assets. And pretty much everyone on their team

is on the front end of their career outside of Caruso. Holmgren's going to get hurt every year, but who cares? Because they'll have five other guys. People will start getting expensive, and they'll replace them with first round picks. And there's really nobody in the West to stop them, outside of maybe the team that popped over the weekend with the trade of Kevin Durant to Houston.

Which I don't even know that I'm ready to, if you want to fully digest that one Well, it's interesting. I mean the ramps still really good It's funny a little bit funny, but more maddening and it's just somebody on Twitter, but it makes me mad that Like oh, I thought you couldn't just trade a superstar for only one first-round pick in the return if you think this is the same person Then you're an idiot and I am probably the idiot for actually even responding in this form to this stupid tweet that

Well, if you want to make yourself feel better what I thought you were gonna say is that it bothers you that Kevin Durant Replies to people. Oh because I actually think it's awesome now. Because some random will tweet him, and he'll quote tweet it and be like. It's funny. Yeah. It's funny. I think he thinks it's funny too.

He does. I don't know. I don't think he's actually that mad at things. I don't think he's mad. He's just like people, you know. He just wants to show that people are idiots. Yeah. Kay Adams is like, yo, I'm sure there's a lot of hurt Suns fans.

And he's like, no, there's not. He's like, they want to be gone. I'm gone. Be done with it. I'm glad you brought that up, because he was at some. Fanatics Fest. Right. And I thought this was fitting of the era we're in,

because he's traded. And one of the first things I see is he's at Fanatics Fest, K. Adams puts a microphone in his face. And rather than him be honest and open, he's at Fanatics Fest, K. Adams puts a microphone in his face and rather than him be honest and open he's got to do this. Can I introduce you for the first time ever maybe as Houston Rocket Kevin Durant? That's it, that would be very fitting right now, yeah.

What does that feel like it happened moments ago here at Fanatics Fest? What is going on? Fanatics Fest is crazy if you haven't been here and been tapped in. He still has to do the bid. Gotta do the promo Like me getting traded But being a punk When you come to Fanatics Fest you never know who will get traded Come on out while you still can

I have a theory I have a theory that that dude who owns Fanatics, Michael Rubin, has like I feel like he has some sort of like Leonardo DiCaprio and Django shit going on. I don't like it guys. I don't like it at all. I don't like that white party. Michael was there. I know he was. So was Dez a couple years ago where it's just like 97% of the attendees are black athletes and they're all wearing all white and then here's just Michael Rubin in his all white. He's hanging out. I don't I don't know what it is but but I don't like the guy. And there's something weird about it.

And the way that Kevin Durant just sounded like a programmed robot there, please come out to Fanatics Festival, you never know what will happen. He's Kevin Durant, he should be in charge. Money's in charge, bro. Look out for this. Okay, so it was Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, the number 10

pick in this year's draft, which is like in two days. What the hell are we doing? How is that the same week that they award the championship trophy? They're going to probably have to have the parade on the day of the draft. You need a couple days to plan a parade, don't you, or to get people settled?

I don't know. Yeah, I mean, the Thunder already had their buses wrapped. You see, Carlisle was. They got things done early. Wasn't thrilled about that. No. Yeah, the buses were wrapped. And there was a video on social media.

And Carlisle was all. I mean, he might have been doing Carlisle bits, but he was all pissed about it. Wonder if they started doing that like, oh, we're up 10 here in the fourth quarter. It was pregame. It was pregame. Oh!

Yeah. It was pregame. Yeah. That's way different. Let's see if this will play Blake. He gets to the arena and he sees the buses already. That's baller. Already wrapped.

Coach, yesterday you talked about, coach, yesterday you talked about your love pressure and this team has brought out combat performances and bus leaders of course how to describe the team's effort in execution of this season so far in those difficult circumstances I just saw a video that's probably gonna go viral of some buses, open top buses, presumably for their parade that are already painted with them as champions. So that's all I'm thinking about right now. Okay well here's another one to put in the category of this stuff doesn't

really mean anything because had they lost that bus wrap would absolutely be pointed at as the motivation than the reason whether it's karma bad karma for Oklahoma City to even do it or motivational karma for Indiana to fight through this devastating injury to win because that was just too much because it's just like when the city of Dallas planned a parade in 2006 and the media got a hold of that Then it was all blamed on mayor Laura Miller at the time because had they not done that certainly It had actually had zero this is a little bit different because it is the coach actually trying to use it as opposed to like us

in the media But you're right. I mean it's narrative hunting. But Carlos- I'm sure the coach, I'm sure Pat Riley, if that was a public thing, told his team about that. Yeah. But and then later it would be like, see, that riled them up enough to win. I don't want to be pedantic, but isn't it possible, because I feel like you're looking

for it to be an A or B, because that's the way it's told. But what if it does make you try harder and you still don't win? Can you say, I was a little, that did kind of piss me off, but. It absolutely, that's what I'm saying. I bet you they did. Or, can we now say it put too much? I don't know.

It's silly, but Carlisle is going to use it. But I mean, Joe Namath predicted they would win the Super Bowl. Then they won the Super Bowl. How many guys have predicted their team would win a big game, but you never hear about it because they didn't win that big game? So that is my point. I thought the other funny thing in that clip, by the way,

was I think that was an Asian reporter. And she did a really good job fighting through, sticking to a very specific basketball question, and he just is like whatever Just not interested Seventh different champ seven years Eleven or fourteen teams I heard Bon Thames had that stat. That's the first time that's ever happened. Yeah, that's good stuff, man Is it yeah? I don't know it's good stuff unless you were one of the teams that was in position to win it for like The next ten years and now you're not and then it probably bums you out, but I do think it's good for the league

I think it's cool. It'll be interesting Yes, this team looks like it could run off Multiple championships you always gotta I know but if they don't Then that'll be pretty interesting because they did put together such a strong team back to Durant just for a second though then that'll be pretty interesting, because they did put together such a strong team. Back to Durant just for a second, though, and why you should still hate Nico. They got two players, the first round pick

this year, which is the number 10 pick, which is not bad, and five second round pick. The point is, get a ton of stuff. Make it at least look big, Even second round picks. Yeah. Because that's like get every single thing that the Lakers could have parted with, because they would have, because you were handing them this get out of NBA depths for free card.

Because that's where they were heading. You were about to see an era of the NBA where the Lakers were kind of irrelevant because even when they sucked and let's remember this Kobe shills when they had Kobe they were winning like 33 games a year for a good little stretch so they sucked but they were NBA relevant because they had Kobe. They would have not had that. They would have not had the next great player.

They would not have a superstar. I actually don't agree with you. They would have 36-year-old Anthony Dave. Are you saying somebody would have just gone there because they're the Lakers? Yeah. I just never in a million years thought it would be from a team sending them there Yeah, I guess some free agent might have said yeah Yeah, or like a T or Anthony Edwards could have been like fuck you. I want to play for the Lakers figure it out

Yeah, like that could happen I just never in a million years imagined it would happen to us and it would be sending the guy there You know what I mean? Like at some point they would have figured it out the guy there you know what I mean like at some point they would have figured it out you see the other thing regarding this year just how bad this year has been sports wise for Dallas no what he got I guess it's Luca traded Eagles Super Bowl Oklahoma City winning the title like all all of that just. Yeah, conference finals lost for the Stars yet again. At least Shoddy will pull them out of the.

So at least the grid's holding up. The grid's holding up thus far. You know what? Shout out to the grid, no doubt. What's up, grid? Shout out to Greg Abbey. Text grid. Hey.

Hey. I don't want to ruin your news or anything, but. Look man. Little thumbs up. I told you. What's up man? Case of the Mondays? No sir.

But that's really just because. THC. THC. For me it was just a big weekend to see Scotty back on track at Travelers, the fifth major. Of course I was locked into this one yesterday afternoon. You were napping. It's part of the FedEx Cup, which is something. But our buddy Kevin Turner watches golf and he texted us this yesterday so I went and found this it's from it's from the the last couple hours of the tournament and it's a tribute to a man from the corporate world now this is a FedEx

cup like I said so it's the guy from FedEx who just died but before you hear the obit and the tribute listen to what somebody yells right when this tee shot takes off. Iran is cooked! What? What? Iran is cooked! Iran is cooked! Why was the owner of the Clippers there?

That sounds like his voice, definitely. It definitely does, you're right. Yeah! He ran his... He ran his cock! Yeah, wow. I ran his cock Keegan! All three good shots here for our final grouping. Three chances of birdie.

Dude, like that's clear that any get in the hole tiger. This guy's just yelling about like current geopolitical events at Keegan Bradley. Come on! Get up! Come on, get up if you're as tight as I am! Get up! Iran is calling out for Kenya!

And again, just one back. Little conservative, smart play. To 12. Okay, so now we're going to go a couple seconds later, the moment that we've all been waiting for. We are saddened to announce the passing of FedEx founder Fred Smith. Are we? Who in particular?

Like, do you have a family member that you know will be the one that calls when your grandma dies or something like that? I think he revels in it. Yeah. Like I have that. I have a guy that wants to be that guy, my cousin. And if somebody important died, he will be the one that's flower it up a little.

Ruin my day at 2 AM because he doesn't wait for the morning I want him to. And he has a memory of you and your uncle that you don't. I remember how important it was to you. And you guys, you're like, what? Yeah, that's Nance. You could tell in it was to you and you guys you're like what? Yeah that's Nance. But you could tell in it like this is his this is what he should do this is his thing I think he sucks at football announcing but he should do any he should just be employed to do any. Basically you want to hear Nance's voice

if you hear this piano. We are saddened to announce the passing of FedEx founder Fred Smith. Oh, yeah. The greatest supporters of the PGA Tour. The Daily Memphian. Did we know it was Memphian? The paper? And the residence?

Memphian? Memphian? Memphian. Fred Smith is the most important Memphian? Memphian. Oh. Wait, what is that word? People from Memphis. You're a Memphian? That's what they're saying.

Never knew that. He's the most... Is that where computers from? Memphis, Tennessee. Labeled Fred Smith is the most important Is that where computers from? Memphis, Tennessee. Labeled Fred Smith is the most important Memphian of all time. He was the founder and the heart and soul of FedEx. A Yale educated man and fraternity brother of President George W. Bush.

One of his numerous inspirations was the PGA Tours FedEx Cup, which began in 2007. That was his inspiration. His inspiration was, how can we put the name of my logistics company on more shit? I have an idea. Make the end of the season have points. So if our boy Dave at Game Day Men's Health one day does die, do we read a real sad thing about his inspiration

was naming the studio? Listen, implicit. The Game Day Men's Health studio. And I love it for Dave, and I love it for Game Day. But I think implicit in all of our adverts. You think if Travis dies, we're not doing this? I think that's part of it. If you die while running a schedule.

Now, if you're off schedule, you don't get the obit. Maybe not everybody can be the inspiration, but something. It's like, yeah, if this is not called the FedEx Cup, we're not doing this. Of course not. Which began in 2007. He was not only a pioneer of an industry, but also a proud father and grandfather and husband,

Marine and friend to so many. Fred Smith was 80 years old. OK, now I left this in here. So here's the picture of the guy who runs FedEx. I'm going to show you how to do a proper transition out of a death. There was a moment of silence held to honor Mr. Smith. Leave the image up there.

Leave the image up there. You go to another commercial that starts like this. It's about engagement rings. Okay, very good. Instead of- That's a board op right there. You fade out one instrument, fade in the other rather than it going like right into like just- A little bit of chicken fried.

Exactly. Yeah, the George W. Bush presidential library put out a statement about Fred Smith. Because again, they were friends there. Laura and I send our condolences to Fred's beloved children. However, I was very proud of one thing. And that is that Jim Nance did not mention his son. The football coach Arthur Smith. Well he didn't get that job because of Fred Smith at all. It had nothing to do with it.

Nance at least wants to try to make you think that. Right. Mentioning it there would have been, I just love that though. We've got to settle things down like it's an athlete. It's one thing if it is an athlete, maybe it's one you don't really care about, but it's somebody who contributed to the sport. The guy just owns a company? Right. I guess.

Not really a shocking death. Anybody that's 80, I don't think is a shocking death. No. No, and next time we have my dad on, which we need to do soon by the way, he's in major conflict with his HOA. Oh yeah. See, they're fining him. It's getting bad.

Oh wow. But FedEx was the enemy growing up. Okay. Like if he found out that a friend of mine's dad worked there, they were kind of a ticket fan type thing? Big time. Wow. He even hated people that worked there?

Yeah. It's crazy. It's like if you work at this place for a long time, they can convince you that it's the only place you can ever work. And so he bought in on that. I have some audio too. I'm going to make it brought to us by Lone Star Beer

because Lone Star Beer, in fact, I wanted to mention, I was at a sports shop yesterday in the mall. Yeah. And looking at all the sports teams, jerseys and whatnot that they sell, they sell a Lone Star Beer shirt. Wow. It said the National Beer of Texas. Got a picture of it and everything to send to our guys up there cool

Or down there. Where is Lone Star beer? Uh, they're all over Texas. Yeah, I mean the national beer of Texas It's cool that they're at that sports shop and you'd be a fool to buy a Lone Star shirt there Oh, yeah, I was thinking that too go to lone star beer calm What is the promo code don't tell him Blake? You're gonna wait for me to have to type the copy and everything is it dumb zone 21 all right It's dumb zone 21 you guys are assholes That gets you 21% off merchandise you must be 21 over to purchase that merch merches. You can get

a cool hat like I'm wearing today. You can get a cool t-shirt like they're trying to sell in the mall at way inflated prices compared to LoneStarBeer.com. Oh also go out to the ballpark, Globe Life Field at Rangers Games this season. You can get Lone Star beer. It is the national beer of Texas baseball. The piece of audio I have, which is kind of similar, is a live read that Chip Carey was doing over the weekend. Okay. Oh. Chip Carey. Yeah. And number one, it's an odd thing that's being promoted. Let's, I guess we can stop and start if we need to,

but here's Chip Carey, baseball announcer. Disability Pride Night is Thursday, July. What? Ha ha ha. Have we taken this shit too far? I mean, if you're disabled, that's great. I mean, great whatever, you know? Unless you're running into Blake's kid. It is.

Well, it is what it is. You're a god damn sideshow. It's, it's, but the word pride, I mean, it's the Norm MacDonald bid on going to the gay pride parade. It's the, are you really, is that the word? Like you're proud of your kid, you want to be proud no matter what of whatever accomplishments or attempting to, are you proud that someone is gay?

Maybe you're proud that they are able to admit to the world. But that's even weird if you look at the perfect society that you want to see someday. You're not even worried, you don't care where someone's wiener goes, right? You're not judging them on that at all. So I'm not proud that you're gay any more than I'm proud that you love threesomes or that I'm proud that Blake loves nipple play or whatever. I'm proud this guy. I know his wife every one like I'm just that is just what you do That is not what I'm Yes, that is the goal arms my relationship with you at all what you do when you're not with me, but also Proud that you

Lost your leg. I did. I swell every time I see a man take another man's load in his mouth, I swell with pride. And if you don't experience that same thing, then you're not an ally. OK. I just don't.

We're back in the same spot of telling people who have something that we don't have how they should feel about it. And I don't know. But I would say disability pride night feels like, because we call like autism a disability. And it just seems that we need to narrow it down. Like wheelchair night maybe. We can't have all the disabilities in one night. Who's... Who's the... Is ADHD the same as if I got my leg blown off in Iwo Jima? I don't know.

It just seems like a lot. And also the pride thing is weird too. Because you want somebody to be like, I'm not embarrassed of the fact that I'm a little person but it's a little more embarrassing when they bring me out to the ballpark and put me next to the the elephant boy Or whatever. I don't know. It seems weird But the the beginning of pride was some sort of fight against the Prussian who is who's saying disability? Well, you know you shouldn't be here. Yeah, they're getting this great parking and

Look how much drive slow in front of me and the best legroom they have I Look how much drive slow in front of me and the fast lane. Look how much leg room they have. I also think it's cool how they have like a thing. Get the road themselves. Every time I get in my car physically, I'm like, ugh, what a pain. What if I had a little deal that I could sit on to lift me up and deliver me to the driver's seat? They've got that.

The leg room is a good point, man. In certain cases, you have a ton of room. So much space. Yeah, I know, a lot of times they don't have use of their legs. But if they did... Or, but I'm saying if they don't have legs. They don't even need... Look at all this room. They're wasting it, really. Selfishly.

Okay, so we've got disability pride night. That's not the highlight of the audio that's just the start. But I will say it's odd. It is odd. After this whole audio that there are stories that Chip Carey will not be suspended or reprimanded for his what he ends up saying in this audio. Disability Pride night is Thursday July 10th and with a theme ticket fans take home a Cardinals cap featuring the Disability Pride flag and Cardinals in Braille.

Details at Cardinals.com. Alright, so yes, he will inadvertently say the one F word, the newest bad F word. Like growing up, the worst-word to say had four letters Right now we're becoming more efficient Three letters is all you need for the worst f-word fans take home a Cardinals cap featuring the disability pride Flag and Cardinals in Braille details at Cardinals.com slash theme. No, he's frozen. Leave that one. Oh. What?

So I think then the conjecture on whether or not he would be reprimanded or suspended or whatever might be because of the 35 second delay afterwards because are they doubled over in laughter holding the cough button down like because it kind of even sounded as where they came as it came out of that like leave that one. Yeah. He's still a little... I'm trying to talk normal. And that wasn't him, was it?

No, I don't know. Well, whoever it was was laughing. I feel like it was the analyst. You may be right. Or is it just that not having to apologize is back? Or because he was saying the word pride, did that trigger something Freudian-like in his brain, and that's why he said that for the flag.

It sounds like a bad edit. It just doesn't fit in there. The way he said it. Yeah, the way he says it. Well, the word flag. It's pretty easy to leave out a little letter. I understand how he did it. It just sounds so choppy. He's trying to say it more efficiently. He doesn't use three letters instead of four. I get it. It's funny though if you imagine it like he is describing a, like a mascot, like a plushie. Like the first, however many fans get a disability pride F. It's just like a little, little gay stuff he's been, I don't know, he's disabled. Play it again. It's just like a little gay stuff he's been... I don't know, he's disabled. Play it again. It sounds like that's what he's giving away.

Disability Pride Night is Thursday, July 10th and with a theme ticket, fans take home a Cardinals cap featuring the Disability Pride fag. It's a hat! It's got a... Yeah, well, I think the fact that he's not having to apologize actually is a sign of the times. I think if Tom Brenneman did what he did during this present time, he would have been fine. I disagree. One's a copy mix-up. One was talking off the air. That's probably... I disagree.

One was talking off the air. That's probably. But Tom Brenneman's tone as well. This is the F capital of the world. He was clearly disgusted by the thought of a man and another man. All right, well, let's put it this way. He is back in the biz.

So however long he was out, maybe he was less if it's currently the way it is. Maybe you're right, it was different, but I don't know. Let's monitor to see what apologies look like over the next handful of years. All right. The Duns, the Duns, The Duns, The Duns Saturday, June 28th at the Kessler Theatre in historic Oak Cliff, Texas, it's a Skylark Soul Company Showcase.

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So. And avoid lifetime too, right? Yeah. He died. He unalived himself. Interesting way. I could see doing that. They say it was an accident, but you know it wasn't. I could see doing that as a Carey will be reading something saying that you are proud to be the way you are now. Like if you just end up mangled, maimed, you're still alive technically, but for life like in this state.

Right. You're Terry Shivo'd? Yeah. Or worse would be, Terry Shivo, you weren't sure if Terry Shivo had any cognitive abilities, right? But you could actually just be fully paralleled. Trapped. Like as Christopher Reeve, would that be worse?

To be alive like that? To be alive. I guess he could actually kind of do stuff, like he directed some TV stuff after that. Well, I mean, I think the issue is if you maim yourself and in an attempt to die, you're going to have to go to vegetable jail. Do they have that?

Well, I don't think you just get out of a federal indictment because you're a quadriplegic Yeah, you don't get to go to Cardinals games. I think it just makes you kind of into a little fuck puppet I mean you're just in jail. I Don't think you're defending yourself You know an f-puppet you say well, I'd love one of those An F puppet, you say. Well. I'd love one of those. Would I?

I don't know. Go ahead. I don't think you'd use it. So the news of the day, you'd be so beaten by it. You'd be happy when it was like inexplicably not in the house for some reason. You're alone from it. Wouldn't it be great if we had adult entertainment reads and we made Dan do it?

Uh, yeah, no, I mean I think it... What do you mean? Hey, Dan here for Adam and Eve where you can get your own pocket pussy for 10% off when you use the promo code DZ10. And he's having me have to help him pronounce items like the finer food items on Eatsy's holiday menu. Now the big news here in the state of Texas of course is that blaze up. The governor stands up for THC. I see what you did.

It truly is a remarkable development if you've been tracking this with Dan Patrick and his cohorts. Because you think they're all on the same page. Yeah, occasionally in Texas you will get the conservative infighting. It was happening a lot towards the end of Bush 2's term. So he got like the tea party and things like that, but occasionally you'll get into a write off. you got like the tea party and things like that, but occasionally you'll get into a write-off. And I don't know, but by all reads of this situation,

the governor chose money and the economy over the quote unquote moral or religious choice. And you know, it may sound weird for me to be like, just choose the money as the guys a little bit suspect perhaps of the extremes of capitalism but I'd rather them choose that than just morally legislating based on something that I don't even think most conservative Texans are on board with which is a full ban of this is a few effectively making marijuana recreationally legal

Really it's been legal the stuff you can get is exactly this. I mean do you trust me? I do I believe you've actually had some Before as part of your regular rotation and not known it Do you feel gambling should be legal? I'm a lot less confident that that would not wreck society. Now is that a moral stand? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, again, it is. And maybe that's just being hypocritical.

But I do think there are economic risks involved in gambling that don't seem as present in drugs and alcohol. And especially THC. Gambling too, the way it's it's very predatory and the marketing of it is crazy. And the fact that they could you could actually run a business where like if were good at gambling, they would just be able to ban you. Oh no, you can't do it now. That shouldn't exist. It seems like THC is just a much more straightforward, clean, or CBD, and just say, okay, this is

how we're going to regulate it now. What other business would be like gambling in that sense? If you're, whatever, if they're offering something for a certain amount of money and you're, I don't know, just to be able to ban you for just using their product and doing what they say they want you to do when you use it. Like, hey, you should sign up so you can win $100,000 today. And then if you sign up and win a hundred thousand dollars every day You are banned because you actually are good at it

We only want people who suck at this and then we'll let them sign up and everybody's like yeah, that's cool That's the way it should work Now it's a giant scam and it doesn't so that's why I'm against the gambling being legalized Yeah, unless they couldn't do that Yeah So that's why I'm against the gambling being legalized, unless they couldn't do that. Yeah, when you talk about being able to go up to a sporting event and gamble at the event, that seems reasonable to me. But when you can download a thing on your phone

and live bet every two seconds and there's no real, I mean, it seems there is a level of regulation that's not present. But if you're allowed to have that and make money off the people that can't do it well, you should also be allowed. You know, it's like they just want all the good, you know, we've run into this a few times. They want all the upside and none of the downside,

and they get it. Yeah. Anyway, back to THC, which is really the important story. Dan Patrick and the Danettes, I believe they're having a press conference right now. Last night, Dan Patrick just got a tweet off saying how disappointed he was in the governor. Him and the governor tweeting?

Well, Dan Patrick is tweeting like, yo, the governor kind of fucked me here, because he did. OK. And then Dan Patrick is having a press conference right now to follow up on. And for the governor's part, he vetoed the ban, but said now it's time to special session for how to regulate.

How to regulate. Like, how are we going to do it different? Well, this probably works for Dan Patrick well, too, because now his constituents that vote for him because of his moral stands are still going to know Yeah, this is what he really wanted Maybe it's all a big scam all working in conjunction So like if you're saying Abbott can't run again is he well he was tree fell on him some

35 Politically, oh, I don't think so. Okay. So like if that is the case, this would be the scam that they do. Now that you're saying this, dude, this is basically just a modern day mall Paul Ferguson. Yeah, you're the guy that can't take the hit on this. You can take the hit on it politically. We all kind of want this because of the money. But I want to stay in this job later.

So if we were to allow the THC. Oh, wow. He is running. Oh, then I'm wrong here. Damn it, I had such a good theory for him. No, that is a great theory. A minute. You were cooking.

No one has ever run for a fourth term. He will be the first. Which is ironic, because he had tree fallen. It was some 30 years ago. Yeah. Which is ironic because he was some 30 years ago. I Mean look I I can't say that I'm bummed about this It's it's good for our friends at early bird. There are certainly other ways you can acquire these things, but

You know Here's where it really jams them up there's so many veterans and people dealing with both mental and physical injuries and trauma who have decided that THC is a better route for them than medication, pills, big pharma. And those people made their voices heard. And it's one thing if it's, you know, early bird comes to us and they're like, man, we need it to seem like there's legitimate people who are acti- I'm like, ain't you see who we- we do a podcast.

But if you can find the people who are actual like heroes, first responders, people who have dealt with the negative effects of society, and this is how they, they cope. That'll work. A lot of lake news over the weekend. It started out, I believe this was Thursday night, a police chase led to a suspect jumping in Grapevine Lake. So 38 year old stole a vehicle, crashed it while being chased, and then into grapevine lake trying to escape this was actually i said thursday night it was friday morning and not the thursday night kind of friday morning it was nine thirty friday morning. Nine thirty? and there here's time for the reason i'm doing this story

so when he got in the lake the it's the story says officers tried to reach him by boat and jet ski but shallow waters limited their access we got cops on jet skis it's that's my thought is like okay so it's Friday morning great vine PD they probably have at least a couple C dos right they got 15 year old stand-up freestyle Polaris they're dreaming of the day that they're called to use it. That's what I want to know. Whose call is that? Is that just whoever the big dog that day?

Or are we drawing straws? There's got to be a set in stone. There's a succession of like, if we need jet skis, it's you and you. Like, you guys are the jet ski guys, if there is a call on that. And you're off that day, and you're screwed, because you get passed if there is a call on that and you're off that day and you're screwed yeah passed over damn but yeah so there's and they couldn't get to him because they said the water was too

shallow so this Joker's just out there in the lake playing nanny nanny boo boo at 10 o'clock on a Friday morning that's a waiting game it's totally as it were you're gonna win in the end the The cops, the man. Yeah. Then we also had a firefighter drown. I think that one was Lake. That's ironic too, right? Lake LaVon. Yeah, how about me?

Yeah, off duty Dallas Fire Rescue member kayaking around 7 o'clock this morning. They found his body. I guess he was actually reported missing over the weekend wasn't Jimmy was it no would you tell us if it was Jimmy yes yeah we would need Nance an AI Jim Nance to lay him to rest let's make AI Jim Nance giving a yeah no he doesn't at all seem like a person of person who would be litigious. No, no, no, but if we make a Jimmy Nelson obituary with AI Nance just for the future,

for when needed, I think Jimmy would like that. I think he would like that. I also feel like Jim Nance would sue us. No, we're not using it... Ever? Well, we're not using it for anything except comedy. His name is out there. You're allowed to parody him.

We can't make money off it if we use him in the sponsor tag. That's true. That's where I ran afoul. And I'm totally bullshitting about it. I don't know if I'm right on this, but it sounded great to the extent where Jake was nodding. Yes, like yes, you have a great point. Jameson can play the music or the piano.

Dude, let's do it. Jimmy Nelson. We got a person barricaded in a home in a white settlement right now. Got an ongoing situation with Choppers Live reminding me that white settlement is... I was going to say there's more than one person shut in in white settlement, but go ahead. Reminding you that white settlement still exists. What's going on there now? Like I said, I think they actually

broke in live on the news for this. We got a SWAT situation. 8 AM. But I wonder what that takes. We don't know what it's for. It just says a person is barricaded inside a home, and they got the WFA chopper out there. We sitting in Bombot?

What does it take to get the SWAT team out there? That's what I'm saying. Obviously there's gotta be firearms involved. Yeah, it does say that there were firearms, but they got one person inside the house, heavy police presence. Let's see here. And that never escalates it. No.

What was the... But you gotta go. Oh, yeah, we got this... What does SWAT stand for? Special Weapons and Tactics. Nice. Uh, we did have a little bit more on the warfronts over the weekend and today we have Oh yeah, yeah dude.

Iran striking an American military base in Qatar. Okay, you should probably expect that, right? Yeah, and I just saw on Twitter they called that, let me make sure I have this right, because now we've got a lot of new operations to name. They called it Annunciation of Victory. I don't like that. I don't like it at all. No. It's confusing. It feels like a give up. No, but I, it's... I can't tell if it's just social media age or not, but this doesn't feel like a real war yet.

Despite everybody tweeting about World War III. I mean, like, did you see the thing where the US, like, diplomatically backchanneled Iran before they Did this and let them know? Okay, we're about to bunker bust you And then there's people posting videos of themselves on the streets in Tehran in Tel Aviv on both sides of the thing and people were just kind of like living life Now yes, the town stuff is on fire, so I don't know what sense to make of that, but I don't think there's going to be a draft tomorrow is what I'm saying.

Despite the fervor on social media. I think you're safe, Henry. Oh yeah, he'd go first. Out of us? Yeah. Yeah, and look at that. Do you want him fighting for us? Dude, okay, so on the way here...

Can you imagine if we had to have a draft? On the way here... Kids these days, grandpa, come on. Oh, well, your daughters are the ones who wanted equality so bad. Yeah, there you go. Ladies, generation, hop on in. Henry spills coffee on his shirt. We gotta stop at a gas station.

He contemplates whether to buy a $40 shirt or not. This is on the way here? I would have, because it looks awful. On the way here. You have a big coffee stand on your shirt Oh, yeah, my god. It's terrible. Okay, but you know at least I didn't spill on Clayton's car. That was the bigger concern Whoa, I'm sorry. What happened? Cuz Clayton's cars in the shop remember well who spilled some coffee. No he's saying he's just happy he didn't spill it in his car. I get there this morning and... Hey, you spilled coffee in your truck. Hold on. If you spill coffee in my stepdad's truck, might have to hurt you. And we get to the stop and he goes well I didn't spill coffee in your truck and

then he does the shirt reveal but I got it all over me. OK, well, that's a good thing. And so then we're on our way out here. And we're not seeing much civilization. And Clayton just goes, man, we're just headed out to BFE, aren't we? Henry has no idea. Never heard that term in his life.

What about you? Yeah. Yeah, BFE. MJ knows. What did he say? It's BFE. MJ knows. What did he say? It's BFEgip, right? Well, I guess it's BFN. BFEgip? You never heard... what do you think BFE means?

It just starts with bumfuck something. But I've always heard Egypt. It is. What did you think? You only thought it was BFE? Yeah. Okay, no, it's Egypt. It is. What did you think? You only thought it was BFE. Yeah. OK. No, it's Egypt. That's the origin. Egypt?

Yeah. In this case, Henry may have actually known more than you by the time he knew. No, he knew nothing about it. Maybe he knows a lot more than me. Maybe that was more than me. Did you just think that E was kind of a choose your own adventure?

I just thought BFE just stood for just in the middle of nowhere, just bumfuckin' whatever. Yeah, but I always heard either bumfuckin' Egypt or people would just say, we're in the middle of nowhere just bump it does it does ever yeah but I always heard either bump fucking Egypt or people would just say we're in the middle of bump fucking nowhere yeah yeah but that doesn't start with II no no you were ridiculing me about something that you made up oh no but I knew what it represented you had had no idea about anything. Just the intern making you look foolish. I knew about nothing. Well, shout out to Greg Abbott and Henry.

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On this day, OTD in, or for Monday, June 23rd, in 18. Can you send me that guy's email? Yeah, you like it? Yeah, no, I was just gonna book him for tomorrow for him to do the news. Oh my God. I figured he's probably ready to go. This is the day in 1868 that the patent was given for the typewriter featuring the QWERTY keyboard. Q-W-E-R-T-Y. Which is a very popular password. Do you know that?

For real? Yeah. That's insane. My daughter, I remember that was her password. I thought that was like, you know, Cybersecurity 101 was we don't do 123456789 or straight letters. But it does bring the question, what did it look like beforehand? Maybe just A, B, C, D. Yeah, probably. And then this guy's like, look, what if we put the letters we use most closely associated with the fingers and...

Kind of brilliant for the time. And stood the test of time. I like the QWERTY password. I also, my password trick is trying to find words that you only need one hand to type. That's a good one. So like I did like creds23 because I could do it all with my left hand.

Or dreads. He did a left hand because he's on, he's doing something else with his right hand. Yeah, he's busy. While he's, password to this adult site. Damn dude. NFCM. There's literally no other reason Yeah, right. Yeah, he's busy while he's Password to this adult site damn dude Cm there's literally no other reason for you to be using your yeah Why would you just do a left hand completely exposed? I think I had the mouse here in the

Oh sure, dude. Yeah my pants pants down on this day in 1917 to Boston Red Sox pitchers combined forces to pitch a no-hitter. Babe Ruth walked the first batter, and then got ejected from the game when he was disputing the ball four call. First batter of the game. Ernie Shore then took over. Have you ever heard about this? No. Okay. I love teaching baseball Blake baseball history. The the runner attempted to steal. They threw him out.

And then Ernie Shore retired every single batter after that in the game. So that's a no hitter. On this day in 1988, George Steinbrenner fired Billy Martin for the fifth time. Like, imagine that. He replaced him with Lou Pinella. He had been the manager for three years since in 1985 Pinella was fired and replaced by Billy Martin.

I did not realize that. So he would fire one, hire the other. Fire that guy after a couple years, hire the other. This despite the fact that the Yankees at the time had the fourth best record in the big leagues. But they had a two and seven road trip. So he fired Billy Martin. Well, he'll be around.

This is the day in 1993 in a case that became very viral back in that day. Lorena Bobbitt. Hold on. Any idea, Henry? Damn. Lorena Bobbitt. Blake.

I don't know. Sounds like Lauren Boebert. John Wayne Bobbitt. John Wayne Gacy. Nothing? Yeah, you, but what about him? Oh, Clayton knows. OK. Wow, Clayton knows.

Okay. Wow, that's shocking. Lorraine Bobbitt sexually mutilated her husband, John Wayne Bobbitt, after he allegedly raped her, which caused all kinds of, can you rape your wife? And... Yeah, I don't know. It's a... Don't you recall?

I do, and I think it's a legitimate question that shouldn't... You think it's a legitimate... You're not sure if you recall. That's I do and I think it's a legitimate question that shouldn't You think it's a legitimate like you're not sure if you can you definitely can oh, okay? Well, you just said it was a legitimate question. You should say it's not a legitimate Okay, well the way you said it of can you write? I thought but in any case I'm saying at the time that's one thing that emerged from this but anyway. Yeah, she cut off his wiener and threw it in the field and Then she got in trouble he that emerged from this. But anyway, yeah, she cut off his wiener and threw it in the field. And then she got in trouble. He later did porn with the reattached appendage. You ever watched any of that?

Shockingly, no. Yeah, that is shocking. I don't know. I've never interfaced with it. And on this day in 2020, Segway, the company Segway, it would end the production of their two-wheeled personal transporter So 2020 Segway stopped doing it. I did not know that the mini disk of transportation today's birthdays include LaDane the date LaDane the Dean LaDane and Tomlinson is 46 Antonio Gibson is 27.

Boy, he fell off. I thought it was funny reading about him this morning on his Wikipedia page. Drafted by Washington football team, it says. Yeah. So for that one year, like what a give up. Well, you know what it is. We know we got to change the name. We're not sure what to do.

Let's just do this. It's the soccer thing, Greg. I would have loved him to keep that name. Me too. Yeah, I mean, I think it was unique. I think it looks cool when clubs in Europe do that. Yeah. In fact.

But they had to go, no, we'll do commanders. Gets in right in line with one of my gummy thoughts from over the weekend. It's probably because the Rangers were playing the Pirates, but I'll just do it now. Since we're learning the president could just do shit and people are like, well, nobody thought that to do that before. And he's like, well, whatever. The president should just mandate that every city has one color way for their sports teams. That's great.

And what can be done about it? Like America, who would, I mean, obviously some cities would bitch and moan and complain about it. What are we doing here? Cowboys colors? I feel like there's no chance of anything other, but that's not bad, dude. You got a couple different variations. That blue and white for hockey would look sick. It would look like the Maple Leaves, the Dodgers, the Cowboys and what? It's just better the Kelly Kelly green

Team would be a little upset, but they already got the star Yeah, no you could work it out and it that's how they do it in Europe So when Luca plays for you know, whatever bars of Madrid, it's the same team and I think that'd be cool Clarence Thomas is 77 pubes on a Pepsi Randy Jackson 69 We once had him autograph our sword Frances McDormand is 68. She had a little bit of a kind of a comeback, right? She never really Went away. I mean, I guess I don't I just know it seemed like she was in two award movies

Yeah in close succession. She's always thought of as great. And Aaron, our birthday of the day... Do you want to give me one? I'll give you one. Henry birthday, he's shaking his head. He doesn't have anything for us today. Nothing, nothing that great, no. When you know, you know.

Yeah. But I'll give you our birthday of the day, because I consider this to be an important thing that there is there's no slow news days just slow news reporters as a great man once said Aaron Ruel is 49 that is kip from Napoleon Dynamite and shocking to see a picture of him like just as normal. He just looks normal. He looks like Henry, just like a regular dude. Good dude.

He doesn't look like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite. Born on this day now dead, and thankfully some of these people are dead. Art Modell. Muck Fodell. June Carter Cash. And some of these people, unfortunately they're dead because we can't enjoy more of their fine work. Paul Verhoeven.

Mmm. Starship Troopers and Partial Recall. Dead on this day, still dead. I give you Ed McMahon. What? Chuck Taylor. Dr. Jonas Salk developed a vaccine for polio which is why I can count cards today. Don't want it. And George Paterno, possible No. Possible Muser's guest. Son.

Brother. He was a great play-by-play man on radio. But for Penn State. He was for Penn State. It was weird how he got that job. Just what a coincidence, though, that he would get the Penn State job With all those other jobs out there Yeah, you at least but of all the applicants they said this one is the he's just the best he's the most qualified

No, no probably was handed to him unlike You know at least in the case of the other Jerry Sandusky. he actually did have to work for his radio play-by-play role. Still one of the most amazing things about that story. The guy named Jerry Sandusky who does radio? Works for the Raven. There is a guy, yeah, currently. Yeah. And he often has to battle people like, it's not me!

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Now who do we have here? Adam. The son. One of the sons. One of the sons. Most important son. One of the D's. We had to make sure we had all three.

One of the deers. Yeah, so your dad wrote the book about O.J. being innocent of the murders. Do you agree with that? I do. I grew up with it. From the time I can remember, I was talking with him about the case. We had a pool table. He would have all the materials spread out and would ask my opinion. Now I was 10, 12, 15 years old at the time,

so I probably didn't appreciate it, but I think he put together a very compelling case. I mean, he was very convinced he knew who the suspect was. And this thing was LAPD should just take a look at him. Why discount it? Now should we reset it all? Who his father was? Yeah, let's reset everything.

Yeah, so let's go back. We had a remote at Spy Center and Michael gave us a book to read and the cover was, OJ is innocent and I can prove it. And I knew nothing about the OJ Simpson case, and I thought it would be a nice objective read. And since a listener gave it to me, I felt more inclined to read it.

And it took me probably two weeks to read this book. It just flies by. Written by Michael Dearere, private investigator, who had done really good work in other independent cases and kind of grew his name to be a well-respected figure. And Adam, jump in here if I get any of this wrong, but I believe was delivering, was at a conference, saw this slow chase, slow car speed chase of OJ and the Bronco,

and thought, well, yeah, he did it. And kind of started kicking himself for just assuming, just based off of something he saw on TV, that this guy was guilty. So he ponied up his own money, he did his own investigation, flew to LA countless times, hopped fences, pretended to be people, got close, and just poured himself into this case

and wrote this really good book on who he thinks did it. And I thought it'd be cool to go through the book, since you guys have notes if you ever wanna jump in here. But Adam, I thought we would start with why OJ couldn't have done it. And it starts, I thought we would start with why OJ couldn't have done it. And it starts, I believe, I think we should start with the crime scene was, so to speak, butchered. Where people were contaminating evidence.

I mean the biggest problem with the crime scene that they did was Nicole, her head was almost cut off. And just to give her a little bit of dignity wanted to cover her up but they brought in a blanket from inside to cover her up meaning OJ's, her kids, hers, maybe Ron Goldman's fibers were on that blanket and from then on I don't know how you can trust much from the crime scene after that. Exactly and let me know if we get too graphic here, but the crime scene, there was an obvious struggle that happened.

And whoever the assailant was would have had obvious defensive marks. And even on Nicole, I don't know if everyone knows, but she was knocked out first. It wasn't an immediate killing. She was knocked out. And that's when the confrontation started with Ron Goldman Once he was killed the assailant had no other choice but to kill McColl and so she wasn't killed by just a stab wound She was killed from somebody behind pulling the neck back slicing the throat Imagine blood would have been everywhere, right? The assailant would have had blood all over them

But you're right Imagine, blood would have been everywhere, right? The assailant would have had blood all over them. But you're right, once the crime scene is messed with, a blanket that introduces other things from maybe inside the house that weren't there. And there was a shoe print. Well, my dad, he had been an investigator for 50 some odd years, and so when he was watching his case and he was watching the trial and he was laid up,

he just, he knew things weren't quite adding up. So that's why he went to do his own investigation. And slowly and slowly he started putting these things together and it was piece by piece and piece and building the puzzle. And so in the crime scene, and we have one of the associates, Phil Thompson here, you know, the footprint that they talk about, it was after, it was stepped on once the blood was already pooling. It wasn't somebody that was standing there would have got blood all over him. Phil, I believe, has even started to thicken up, right? And that's what they...

Turn that headset around, that'll... Mike will be in front of you. That's one of the things that they used... Oh, he's got a hand... I'm sorry. No, use the headset. You're good. That's one of the things that they used. Oh, he's got a hand. I'm sorry. No, you're good. That's one of the things that they used to try and place OJ at the scene.

Well, my dad never argued that OJ was at the scene. His theory was OJ went afterwards, because the assailant who knew was very close to him probably called and said what happened. And he went to check it out like anyone would, not believing that that actually happened. Yeah, it was outside, so if the assailant had gotten in a fight with Ron Goldman, which his injuries suggest that there was, I believe there was bruising along his knuckles and his hands indicating that he got a few really good punches in.

And there was a defensive scuffle. And O.J. was photographed the day after the crimes where the only indications of harm was a cut on his hand from when he had squeezed and broken a glass. And so there was no indication that O.J. had been in an altercation of any sort. And I mean, the blood, there was just a lack of blood, there was a lack of blood evidence in the Bronco which he used to drive.

That has been confirmed that he did drive the Bronco that night. There was no blood on the gas pedal or the brake or anything that would indicate that someone had committed a murder and then gotten in the vehicle to drive away. And I believe that the, I believe what your dad said was there was 11 drops of blood in the Bronco, which is enough to equate to your thumbnail. Exactly. The total amount of blood would have been about the size of your thumbnail.

So when people are saying, well there was blood in the bronco, that's true. And while it may have been Nicole's, but it's not cohesive with a murder that night. And there was also, you couldn't link any of OJ's DNA to the crime scene. Now whether it was contamination or what, but even the knit cap that was found at the scene, or the glove that was found at the scene, that was not conducive to, well the murderer was wearing those things.

It was possible. It could be. It could be. But it was never confirmed that that was OJ's. Exactly. Now it was consistent, they used that word a lot, consistent, but consistent could have been familial DNA. The whole blanket thing is interesting because that certainly was a big part of the most

recent documentary that we watched that had like, was it Marcia Clark? Was she on there? Darden was certainly on there. But they were talking about that that was, yes, that was a thing that was done and it was kind of like a ethically or morally correct thing to do because there's a lot of press there and people across the street and with the cameras trying...they just thought it was right. Like I don't want these...it wasn't internet era really, but it was I don't want these out there. You know, everybody just sharing them TMZ, whatever that is of the day.

But wouldn't you think these and maybe they do now, but the like they would have some kind of a what do you call it? Not contaminated sterile, something like that in their truck, you know, right. Maybe they have their own tarp in the back in their truck that doesn't have a lot of crimes, you know, other trace evidence. To walk inside and grab a blanket from inside is like, okay, you've just ruined everything then. Yeah.

There was also lack of blood at Rockingham. Or their own coat, whatever, yeah, something. OJ's house, if someone did, yeah, sever someone's jugular, two people's jugulars, there would be blood all over them. There was no blood found in the shower drainage system. There was no blood. At OJ's house?

At OJ's house at all. In fact, I think this is one of the bigger parts of the case was there was a bloody sock with Nicole Brown Simpson's blood on the sock. Yes. And the blood went side to side, meaning it could not have been on OJ's foot when the blood hit the sock

because it bled through both sides. Correct, if a foot was in the middle, it cannot bleed through on both sides. But the biggest thing is it tested positive for EDTA, the preservative that the blood had been in a vial. When they draw your blood, they put in that preservative, that was what was in the blood on the sock.

And your dad talked to the jail physician who drew OJ's blood, confirmed that there was eight out, eight whatever, eight cc's of blood, thank you Phil. And when it was returned to the criminal pathologist, there were 6.5 cc's, so some had been taken out. Exactly, where did those cc's mysteriously go? And it was consistent enough with maybe that's the amount that they did, either put there or at his house. And then the last thing I wanted to say about O.J.

is that he just didn't really fit the profile of someone that did those murders. Now he and Nicole had tiffs, an up and down rocky relationship, but they had also been known to reconcile a lot. And so the fact that OJ got so mad at one time to kill her is a leap. The other thing is his kids were inside and he knew that.

He probably wouldn't have premeditated this murder had he known his kids were inside. So just that and O.J.'s friends and his therapist said he was really squeamish with blood. He wouldn't even bait his own fish hook, they said. So all of these things to say O.J. is then capable of that on a whim is just kind of inconsistent. What would the motivation of the Sun be though? So that's the that's the book is Mr. Deer

Wanted to prove that OJ didn't do it But the the more and more he looked into it the more that his red flags pointed to OJ son Jason and a little background on Jason He suffered from a lot of childhood trauma. His parents got divorced. O.J. No, her name is escaping me. Got divorced because their daughter had drowned in their pool. And the tragedy that caused a lot of strife in the relationship, they ended up splitting. But Jason somehow, either because of O.J.J or himself blames himself for the drowning of his sister.

He was supposed to be watching her. Okay. So yeah. Now whether OJ explicitly said you were supposed to be watching her, this is all your fault, I don't know. But he had to deal with that. He also had to live in OJ's shadow where Jason is a big dude but was not the athlete, not the football star that everyone expected him to be and just never really found his way.

And so he had to deal with that. He, in dealing with all that, kind of became addicted to drugs. And in fact, it overdosed on cocaine at the age of 14. So much to the point where he began having these seizures and these like blind rage fits. And so the more you learn about Jason, the more you learn that he more than OJ is someone capable of just snapping in a heartbeat. I also thought it was interesting that he began to become, like at one point he stalked Nicole and they said that, or your dad said that he might have at some point gained feelings for Nicole.

To where on the night maybe he sees Ron Goldman show up to her apartment. He's mad about a canceled dinner which we'll get to in just a second. But here's this woman that he might love with another man. And the canceled date was, Jason had kind of found his way

being a cook. And so he had gotten his way to where he was on the night of the murders an acting chef at this restaurant. Where Nicole said, hey, after our daughter's dance recital we're gonna come by, we're gonna eat. And that was a big deal to Jason. Cause he could finally show off and say, hey look, this is what I'm capable of. And- It going to be for the whole entire, you know, big family.

Right, and so Jason made the reservation, ordered special food for the occasion, was very excited, told all of his coworkers that his family's coming in and he's going to be the acting chef for the night. Well they bail. And it's at this point in his deposition that he begins to get a little flustered. His facts are not as consistent as they were and he becomes really, he was really upset that they bailed. And so I think on the night of it kind of created a perfect storm of I'm really mad

at Nicole for bailing and not giving me a good reason. I show up and hear this other man comes in and he just kind of snapped. And a part of being a chef was he had his knives with him. He always carried his knives home. He had knife training when he was at the Army and Naval Academy. So this wasn't one of the knives from her house? No.

No. This was one of his knives, a part of his chef's collection. I believe it was here for a while, wasn't it? We actually have it here. And it's right there in the box. It actually. Wow. That's the murder in the box. And actually, wow. That's the murder weapon? The knife.

You own the murder weapon? The original theory was, well, he's a chef, right? So he'd have chef knives. Well, my dad actually found an old storage locker that had went unpaid. And within the storage locker was a lot of sentimental items to the son, Jason. And there was his knife in there. And it was wrapped up with some other personal belongings.

Well, the knife is a double-sided knife and it really has no other purpose other than self-defense. It can also be called a boot knife. The base of the knife, the measurements directly match the wound on Nicole's head. the measurements directly match the wound on Nicole's head. And the knife itself, a lot of people don't know this, but on Ron Goldman, I believe it was, he had bruised wounds around the knife wounds, where if you're stabbing someone,

it's, you know, the base of the knife is basically gonna prevent it from going all the way in, right, if not, it's just going to go for it. Finger guards. Finger guards. And so he had bruising that matches that as well. And so this knife serves no other purpose other than self-defense. To cut and kill. To cut and kill. So the OJ Kilder theory is that, did they ever even mention why, because the theory is that did they ever even mention why because the theory is that he dropped he threw some stuff away at the airport the next day and there was well but no well shoes out the window on the way to the airport we wonder if it was the knife all this kind of stuff there are witnesses that saw him throw

something away but those witnesses this is in the documentary, were never called or never even interviewed later. But there was never any real theory of where, what knife because it wasn't like there's this knife missing at OJ's house for a set. There was no knife missing from a kitchen block in Nicole's house. There was no missing knife and so nobody knew what it looked like or what could. But when you talk this knife and the guy's a chef, this is not a chef knife. Correct.

The original theory was, well, he might have had chef knives, until this was found in the storage locker. And when you look at the wounds, and Phil, you can talk more about this than I can. But the double-sided knife actually made a lot more sense, consistent with a lot of the wounds. And then not only that, but the measurements on the base of where

she was knocked out right the the bruising from when the knife goes in and the the finger guards are going to prevent it from going further and that bruises around the wound but but also if this was the knife even years later wouldn't there still be some kind of residual tiny amount of blood that you could find? Maybe it is a knife. It just proves that he had knives like this. This is not necessarily the murder weapon.

Well, and we certainly tested that theory. We did a discovery series in 2016, and we had it tested very thoroughly and they said you know there might be and there might not be but that many years later it's really 20 some years later it's really easy to not be there anymore. Okay what year did did Will get this? It's a good question. It wasn't two years after. It wasn't two years after. Yeah I'd have to after. Yeah, I'd have to go, maybe 2008? Somewhere in that?

It was well before 2008 because it was in the documentary. So it was early 2000s. Early 2000s, I believe. The other thing I wanted to mention was the knit cap found at the scene because I believe this was also tied to the storage unit as well. Where, yeah, and his storage unit goes unpaid, so like that TV show we all became obsessed with, some guy just buys Jason Simpson's storage unit, and in there, and because of that,

he calls your dad, because he knew your dad was investigating it. There was the knife under some blankets and such. Some of Jason's diaries were in there and also some pictures which one of them is behind us where this might well be the knit cap that he was wearing. And in photographs before 1994, he was wearing a dark blue knit cap like that.

Post June of 1994, he switches to a gray knit cap. So might have been his, I don't know, he could have been wearing that. But the more I read the book, the more I was convinced that, I mean, your dad's suspect paints a lot of the pictures that I think OJ doesn't. Well in the knit cap, you recall,

there was supposedly hair, or there was hair found, right? Yeah. Well when they tested it, it was canine hair now you know could it be a coincidence sure but this photo where Jason is wearing the knit cap and playing with his dog right and and the knit cap found in the storage locker similarly it had it had canine hair in there as well so you know it's like it's pieces right and and and my dad's thing was LAPD should just take a closer look. They never fully ruled him out because they never truly

looked at him as a suspect. And I think where the mistake was is laser-focused on OJs are suspect. And then you frame the narrative to try and fit that. Which is a thing, which I wonder if that must be your dad's thought on, like why would, because he is alleging now that the police actually did plant evidence. If you're saying the vial had,

it's supposed to hold eight ounces, it only had six and a half ounces or whatever, like why would they do that? And I guess it would only be to bolster their... Because now you're... That's a whole different area that you're getting into. Sure. And I suppose they would too, if... Come to that conclusion, if he's had multiple domestic violence calls to a house, which is also difficult to say... So you're saying though,

he wasn't a guy that could do this this but he's had multiple domestic violence calls? It was a high-profile case right and there's got to be a lot of pressure on the police department from the DA's office and others and what my dad laid out was just the facts. Look this this amount of blood was taken this amount of blood is left now. What happened to it? Well there's obviously that preservative on the sock. If a foot is in a sock, it cannot, physically cannot bleed all the way through on both sides. And then the lack of blood on OJ. And then the fact that Ron Goldwyn was a black belt in karate. He's not, he's not not going to put up a fight. So anyone he fights is, anyone

he, it's a life and death situation, right? You're going to fight put up a fight. So anyone he fights is anyone he, it's a life and death situation, right? You're gonna fight to the very end. So any assailant that is in a fight with him is going to have some marks, even defensive marks. And we have it through some friends that who were close to Jason at the time and he was held up in his house and they, I would

say on record-ish, that he was in a pretty bad case. He had a black eye. He had cuts. He had bruises on himself. Did your father ever attempt to contact Jason? Multiple times. And that just doesn't, does he not speak to anyone about this? I guess I had not thought about him really until you all brought him up. What's his, what's, what's, think about it, what's Jason's motivation? Yeah. You know OJ's motivation, right? If Carter got into a bind, it's a father protecting the son. Yeah, I was going to say,

I mean, if we go with this reading, we do unfortunately have to give OJ the World's Best Dad award. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of is, right? Yeah, and. But yeah, that's the motivation. I wanted to walk through what your dad thinks

happened the night of, is that, so Jason commits the murders, he calls OJ, he says something, maybe Nicole's dead. Hey, there's what happened. Maybe something happened, whatever. OJ then drives over there in his Bronco and his Bruno Magli shoes, sees what happens, takes the glove off to check Nicole's pulse, and then drops the glove on the way out. That explains the glove there.

Also explains why the shoe prints are walking through dried blood. Right. And then just kind of panics and knows he has to get to the airport because there's a limo driver waiting at his house, has to drive back, has to drive in the back, has to hop his own fence and when trying to discard his clothing, that's when the other glove gets dropped. That's also why the limo driver sees O.J. sneaking around in the back. Then he goes inside, washes up, takes the magli shoes in the knapsack that he drops on the way to the airport.

But it also confirms why OJ failed the lie detector test because he knew Jason did it. And also why he never tried to investigate what happened. Right. Well, he could still be tried for a crime as an accessory. And also, obviously, still protecting his son. So if he could have taken the fall, that was the original intent. The other thing that's not well reported is Nicole was wearing a watch the night of the murder.

When she was knocked out and fell, the watch hit the ground and stopped at 9.55. 59. 59, sorry. Well, O.J. was on the phone at his house at that time that the watch would have hit the ground. Yeah, and I do want to mention Jason's airtight alibi was that he was working that night until 1030, 1045 when your dad found his time card the original had been destroyed and for that night for the night of the murders it was handwritten in by Jason confirmed by handwriting specialist that he was there until 1030. Right. I think earlier

depositions put his girlfriend picking him up before then. I'm unfamiliar on the time, but his quote unquote alibi for that night has since been proven wrong. And you can see every other day is clock in clock out, right? We're used to that and other types of service industries. You clock in clock out, but conveniently that day it is handwritten in. And the owner said that the restaurant was not open that night. Or, sorry, that, writing it in that, that is not how, that's not their procedure.

Multiple people are on record saying the restaurant wasn't even open that night, I believe it was. It was open, but they closed early. Normally it was open, but sorry, that night it was not open that night. They had closed early because it was slow. They were expecting the big party from the cloak,

and then they didn't show up, and so it was slow. They were expecting the big party from the Colk and then they didn't show up and so it was slow. So most nights they would have about 200 people there. On Sunday nights it was less than 40. Your dad confirmed that by going to that restaurant on a Sunday evening at the same time and see how it was dwindling and whatnot. So let me just leave you with a couple quick hits on Jason of why he fits the profile. While he was at UCLA he was diagnosed with intermittent rage disorder. He had multiple disputes and

fights with girlfriends involving knives. One where he cut off the hair of one of his girlfriends. Another time he stabbed himself during an argument. He tried to commit suicide in front of another. I mean this guy was just very emotionally unstable. He pulled a knife and tried to attack a former employer with a knife. So you can see this pattern of rage and knives. Familiarity with knives, right? Rage and blades, yes, for sure. Good name of the band, by the way. Yeah. That your dad was so fantastic. He tracked down every single one of his ex-girlfriends

just to ask what he was like. They all gave a very similar response, a very Jekyll and Hyde. And I thought the thing that was interesting that would trigger him most of the times was lying. If he thought that they were lying to him, he would snap. And that was a part of Nicole's thing that night. She lied, she did not show up where she was supposed to.

That seems like a common bipolar schizophrenic thing. You're always looking for things that are threats and mistrusts. For sure. After the age of 14, when he overdosed on cocaine, he began having these seizures and he would have to take Depakote to limit the seizures. You're not supposed to mix other drugs and alcohol in Depakote. He frequently did. I believe two months before the murders, he told his then girlfriend that he's just

going to stop taking it. And so I think the issue of like, could he have entered into a blind rage the night after being lied to by a woman? He absolutely could have. Yeah. And again, all we're saying is he should be looked at more closely as a suspect to be fully ruled out. And he never thoroughly was.

Because there is this pattern, like you said. And if there wasn't, people, if they asked, if people asked your friends, Blake, could Blake be possible of this? They would immediately say, no, that'd be so out of character. Given his history, right, it would not have been out of character. Did your dad ever have any contact with the Goldman's?

To some degree, right? You have to tread lightly on those matters. And so we spoke to him during our discovery special, but very respectfully. And he doesn't see it any other way. He sees the evidence that the police put together. Okay, yeah, that's what I was wondering. If he was-

And doesn't know anything about Jason. But also think about it from their perspective, they had a judgment against O.J. Yeah. If it turns out that- That's true. That money then goes away, right? Yeah.

Now how much they actually collected from that, I can't say, but- Almost nothing. Yeah. Was this book read by Bill James in his book, Popular Crime? Do you remember Bill James, the book, Popular Crime? He would read tons of books on a certain crime, and then based on reading all of those books, he would come up with his favorite or what he believed, this is who I believe did it or this is what I believe that the crime was. You're nodding. Do you know

this book? No. Okay it's a wonderful book. Yeah. It's one of my favorite books but I wonder if this was included in that in Bill James's reading. Well if not hey we'll send him a copy. For sure. So the book by William Deere, OJ is innocent and I can proveve It, the evidence is there, we went through all of it, but it's a really entertaining read just from the standpoint of him, you know, within a few weeks of the crime, able to sneak into Nicole, not into the house, but by the entrance and was able to picture himself at the scene. He was tracking Jason for a few weeks, watching his habits.

He would follow Jason to work. He would impersonate people to get medical records. He would impersonate cops. It was amazing the lengths that he would go to to track down some of this evidence. And now, a little bit of good luck along the way with the storage unit. But it was a super entertaining read.

Yeah, he was a dog with a bone. And he had a lot of natural instinct, And he had a lot of natural instinct, and he had a lot of tenacity, and he would not have let it go. And some people said it was an obsession, but it was an obsession in his mind for justice. So he was willing to go to the lengths needed to show that, look, this should really

be looked at more closely. And I think a couple other things that people may not realize is after the Bronco chase, when OJ and the white Bronco pulled up at the house, the very first person to run up to the car was Jason. OJ pushed him out of the way. And by itself, that's OK, that might be nothing. But when you start start put everything together it

it it sort of forms this picture again am i definitively saying it was him? No. But I believe you know my dad was right in that he thought he was a main suspect and should be looked at uh... I know we wanted to talk to you about another case uh... that your dad was somewhat familiar with well before that though

you own OJ's son's Jeep? We did. Oh, you did? We did. You know, I would say it's an interesting part of the story, but it has nothing really to do with the investigation. After the murders, it was left out in the weather, and so any evidence... On purpose, your dad thought.

Right, yeah. Let the rain wash away any... Exactly. You know, Jeep owners, they. Let the rain wash away any. Exactly. Jeep owners, they'll keep the top off in the nice weather, but it was left out in all kinds. And after so many years, any evidence that might have been there would have been deteriorated and washed away. But again, it wasn't studied within weeks of the murder. Exactly.

It very well could and should have been looked at within that window. And they actually, in that time, probably if something was there, would have been looked at within that window and they actually in that time probably if something was there would have been findable. I wonder if that would have helped the police a lot in their case is just that yes we thoroughly looked into this guy this guy this guy all these other people. The things you've ruled out. One of the things in the documentary is yeah that they focused right on OJ right away and they never deviated from that. Well the other thing is Nicole actually had blood on her fingernails right that would somebody in defensive would have been scratching and and Phil you can talk about this as far

as the the type of blood it was and you know how much or lack thereof it was actually looked at. Was it not Heisman blood? It was it was dismissed very very quickly in Marsha Clark's book because it was type B but it didn't match anybody at the scene so that was a quandary so they came up with this theory well Nicole's blood is a B so it must have deteriorated into B. They didn't test anybody else's blood. They didn't test any family members blood and so there's a potential smoking gun right there. And had they tested Jason I think they could have connected a lot of DNA.

But the day after their murders, OJ hired a top criminal attorney to represent Jason. And so he was not touched during any of this. Exactly, exactly. And like you said, supposedly he had an airtight alibi. He could still be looked at today. He could still, my dad's lifelong goal was just to have the LAPD issue a warrant to talk to him more thoroughly, get his blood drawn, see if that is the final piece of the

puzzle. And Jason is not Nicole's kid? No. Jason is first wife? Yeah. I thought the best part of the book- Well yeah, he was attracted to her and stuff. Sorry, my bad.

I thought the best part of the book was he's attracted to it yet but the best part of the place uh... your dad went to one of jason's restaurants that he was working at at the time jason was on to him towards the end of the night jason and his employer kinda walk out with them and are just staring at him they all kind of know what's going on in your dad says

to jason's face i'll be back. Really cool, really, really cool. He would have loved nothing else than to have a sit down with Jason. So when this is all going on, is he working on other cases concurrently obviously? Like is that how he's paying the bills? I guess I'm just super interested in what his life is

like, because was he ever working for a company? His own company. He was self-employed private investigator for over 50 years. He was doing this OJ investigation on his side. His own money. He spent a lot of money. But yeah, he was doing other cases on the side. He was still doing other investigative work

continuously. Must have done well. Yeah, he could have done better without all the money on OJ. But yeah, he did pretty well for himself. He was a real life 007. I mean, he, especially in the 60s and 70s, you know, and 80s is heyday. He was referred to as the real life James Bond, and he definitely believed and lived

up to that persona in many ways. And so he made a lot of connections in his day. And so when you read this book, it's just all these facts are being given a stamp by all of these forensic experts across the world. And it's not just like his theory. He would give this evidence to whoever. And they would say, yeah, you make a really good case. Well, his thing was, never assume, always verify. And so, yeah, if he just gives his opinion, Well, his thing was never assume, always verify.

And so, yeah, if he just gives his opinion, that's one thing, but he wanted to get the experts. Let's do the pathologist. Let's do the medical examiner. Let's get these professional, these people who testify as expert witnesses in other cases, let's get their opinion. This isn't just his personal opinion.

He has his thoughts that he wants to verify. And so you involve the experts. The other case, Blake, is a. This is more in your alley. Missy Beaver's case. So we had, it's 10 years, right? Close to it. At nine.

It was April 18th of 2016. So they had an event the other day that was like a raising awareness type thing. And Blake brought up that that was something that your dad had gotten interested in. There's I don't know, you've heard, there's a couple different theories out there like looking at the gate of the Indian- Is this the Grand Prairie? Midlothian.

There was a fitness club, like a camp gladiator in the morning and then the lady was there at the church to set it all up and she was murdered. There's surveillance footage of a lady or a person walking through inside dressed in like full tactical gear. And there's really not been outside of you'll get some local chatter and my friend thinks that they heard this or that, but there's really not been much from an official investigation standpoint. And I think the biggest question there is why? You know, there was a video inside the church of the murderer that the police

department collected. The pastor confirmed this. It was a 22-minute video, I believe. Never released. Texas Rangers have offered to help. They were turned down. Right? Why? Why is it not being looked at? No, of course you don't want to release all the details to the public because when you find a suspect you want to verify do they know details that nobody, no other person would know. But to solve a case you have to want to solve a case. And so when you start looking into that, I'm not saying that there's any nefarious reason necessarily, but I do think that there are some based on, you know, my dad's own investigation and I

heard you bring up the true crime broads the other day and he had collaborated with them right before his passing. And you know, I think there are reasons why there might be a little bit dragging of the feet. And you know, one of the suspects, a little bit of backstory on Missy, she, and it's no secret, but she was having lots of affairs with multiple people, fire department, police officers. Hell yeah. Right.

And one of the suspects. Back the blue. Hey, more than that, more than backing. Spread the red. I don't know. Spread the red. Certain times of the red. Certain times that it wouldn't work.

So one of the main suspects was married to a police officer at the time. And if you think about it from the Militia PD perspective, how would it look if one of their officers was even tangentially related to the case? And so there's a lot of evidence backing the suspect that they were, well, one, their husband was having an affair with Missy, that's confirmed. There are other aspects of her that fit a certain profile in terms of maybe height and shape and things like that. But also a wife of a police officer who would think there would be access to police gear.

And the night before, she had stormed out of a party. It would be pretty upset. And again, it's just more pieces to the puzzle. But ironically, when she was... You know, this case also, the detective in charge has sort of rotated over. And so you'll have this kind of start-stop type investigation. And when a new investigator, detective, rolled on in 2020, I believe it was, he started taking another look at her. And it was around that same time that she up and moved to New York with her then boyfriend and basically

living off the grid in New York. And interestingly enough, when people would ask her friends, hey do you think so-and-so would have done this? Well again, back to my analogy with Blake, if somebody asked Blake's friends, hey do you think Blake would have done this? I totally had a character. They go, yeah, I can see her doing that. They were almost legitimately scared of her, right? And so there's a lot of that.

Where there's smoke, there tends to be fire. And a detail that not a lot of people know or remember even is Missy was not killed with sort of being blunged so to speak. She was shot and the suspect I talked about and again this could all be coincidence but she was a very she was and probably still is a big gun enthusiast. I mean she would post a number of photos on social media with multiple guns and interestingly nine days before the murder she had a social media post that said, I'm watching you, just with a photo of her eyes. Ten days, I believe it was ten days, I looked at the timestamp after the murder, and there was a meme of this woman that was tied up kind of like a turkey or something.

And basically this woman had a knife and had killed this woman on the table. And her comment to that was, this is how we do it in the south. And there were multiple other social media posts that are highly questionable. One was organization was putting up more money to find the killer and she chose to comment it wasn't all this is great it was you know why don't you fix such and such more disparaging about the organization. Yeah, again, individually none of that may mean a lot, but when you look at the full picture,

it's just these little pieces that start to add up. And just the way my dad started to do it with OJ, it's just, you just follow the crumb trail, or whatever they call it. And then you just keep pulling that thread. Yeah, that's right, you follow the Chisholm trail. That's incredible. But she was actually shot and the bludgeoning would have come after because

you're not going to bludgeon somebody and then back up and shoot them. Right. Right. She would have been shot. And, and obviously that person, I mean, there's a lot of theories, but nothing was stolen from the church. Nothing was stolen from, from Missy's truck. It was a very small window it could happen and there were some unfortunate coincidences of the the camera outside the church that would have caught who came and went out of that door was inoperable at the time. There was some you know dark colored car and you know there are maybe some similarities or some coincidences with

with one of the suspects. But she would have been shot then bludgeoned. And same thing, kind of jealous rage in a sense, right? And I believe Missy had gotten very healthy from the fitness workouts and she lost a lot of weight. And I believe she had a boob job. And if your husband was sleeping with her, you can see where the jealous rage would have come in. I can show you some photos of side-by-side with the suspect and and and the the video stills

from from the church and it's interestingly the police department originally they referred to the suspect as him shortly thereafter they backed us and we cannot confirm it was him or a man or a woman and they said that the suspect would have been between five two and five eight and That they ruled out a couple suspects in that way because one of the suspects was six one well, it doesn't fit the profile and so I Would like to disagree with you on one thing the Blake what if he was you know?

caught because he had murdered 10 people. Blake could win the lottery right in front of you and you would see no emotional reaction at all. He's Dexter. He's cold. He's calculated. He's just taking care of business. You don't know what he's doing.

Even when he's having a kid, right? You don't even know. You'd be a good poker player, yes. You don't know if he's enjoying something or not enjoying it, and you're afraid of him. In the long run, you fear Blake and you should. Did your dad ever look into the Grand Prairie Cobra? Boy, that would have been number one on the list, right?

What happened to the Cobra? We don't know. Yeah, that's the thing. Probably got to the Cobra? We don't know. Probably got a job paying taxes now, hardworking. Still, we got to get rid of it. Was he, did he, where do you guys fall on just general conspiracy theories? I mean, what are we talking here?

How high level is this? Is this after dark? I mean, it's pretty sunny outside. Like Vegas Shooter. Did he have theories on things like that? Because I don't think of James Bond type things as necessarily being conspiracy type things. You're doing real investigative work.

That's different than just I have some questions about reptiles and the government. Gentlemen, I also want to say that my dad was involved in the wax museum murders that were at Grand Prairie. By Ripley's, believe it or not, back in the day. There were murders there? Turns out the Cobra did it. But yeah, he was involved in that as well.

I wasn't aware there was something called the wax museum. It was the wax museum, right? And the owner or manager died mysteriously and then the place burned down. I'm the old school guy. I don't keep up with the new stuff. But yeah, he did all that stuff. 1987, Dan. The poisoning.

Oh, and he also was in charge of the security to exhum Lee Harvey Oswald back in the day. He was in the room where the exhumation was was taking place cuz they thought it wasn't Lee Harvey right, they thought some writer in London or something said it was a Body double or whatever Russian spy Russian spy and so yeah Bill was involved in that as well So the the head actually rolled off the table and he picked it up in a certain former colleague would have said he felt the power at that time. But yeah, he had to have some security around when they dug it up. And so, I mean, to your point,

he wasn't a conspiracy theorist. I think a lot of times private investors can get a bad rep of, oh, they're nuts. Well, there's a lot out there that give them that reputation. I guess that's what I'm kind of trying to get at is the difference between those two things like a professional and just a skeptic. He was focused on real life cases, and ones that I mean, he

took on the hard cases, you know, and he, he even looked at on his own time, the john bernard ramsey case, and was pretty convinced that he knew what happened had happened there. And, you know, for not all of them led to books, happened had happened there and you know if we're not all of them led to books suicide right wrong that could have been one of the theories pressure of the circuit yeah you know the pageant circuits rough kids these days did herself up like like a pageant like the soldier and a few good men or whatever like the full uniform right you know how it is. Sorry. Sorry. Who did he think did it?

Patty right? He had his theories. One of them was the brother. The brother and the parents covered him. The knot that was tied was a Boy Scout type of night. A knot and he was studying that at the time but you know that was just a theory. Jealousy. John Bonaise getting all the attention. Again, again this is all theory right right? We have to frame all this in hypothetical, but back to the jealousy. I think that's a huge motivation for a lot of killings. You have to have the motive, the opportunity, and all these things. But again, if you're the parent, you've already lost one child, you don't want to lose the other one, right? So you're going, you may then frame the scene in such a way that it makes it look like something else.

And I think a parent's love is a very powerful, powerful thing that will cause people to maybe, in the case of O.J., right, maybe take on more of the blame and be the butt of jokes for eternity to protect his son. Because today his son could still be charged, right? There's no statute of limitations on murder. Like you said, possible father of the year or decade or... I mean, it's a millennium maybe. Honestly, this is the sort of thing that they write books in the Bible about.

Right below God over Jesus, right? You would have to say... Well... Although maybe even better. Like he's protecting himself. God didn't have a Heisman. The Nojah did both. The Nojay did both. Are you guys any of the sons of William Deere into the PI game? I know you own the spy store but just work it there. You did a spy shop. My brother owns the spy center.

Pretty big age gap between us. My dad was a private investigator 50 years. My brother worked for him a little bit early a lot early on and then he sort of deviate a different path still within that sort of spy you know universe but more of the the surveillance type equipment. My dad is the one that continued down well he stayed doing sort of the investigative work. Dad spread his seed around yeah yeah, Dad was Elon-ish. He spread his seed in knowledge and other areas that we shall not speak of. But yeah, I mean, do you know 007, the movies? I would say he personified him in many ways. Who did we have the other

day that it like pitched in four days? Something crazy. Right, yeah. We had somebody, but that feels like what Bill was doing. Well, I wish we could have had him on the show it would have been nice well I searched these emails and I'm not saying that it didn't happen but I mean do I need to pull receipts you probably will have probably has sent them to us probably will have the receipts to us just a timestamp everything date yes yeah of course if anybody could falsify some timestamps, I would guess these guys would be pretty good. You know, not me.

I'm not an investigative business. I know, but you know people. Well, I mean, I... Do your wives stay super worried? I would think you'd always be worried that there's a camera somewhere. Yeah, I would want to watch your house. Yeah. Like I said, I was worried in the bathroom over there

We I don't even want Alexa in the house. So, you know cameras on the outside nothing on the inside. Nobody needs to know my business Tell you what dating as a young man who works at the spy center That seriously's got it yeah Well, I sell stocking stuff I sell things to to follow you around. And then they mysteriously get a phone call and have to walk away. Well, thanks for having us, guys. This is sweet. Let's blow some stuff up.

Hey, let's go do it. Yeah, I appreciate you making the trip. And I know it was a long haul, but yeah, we have some pretty cool stuff to show you all off air. Let's do it! Adios, mofo. We gotta go before this becomes a zoo! Thank you for watching my video, subscribe and type for my name if you want to watch more of my videos. Yeah, and then you got pretty good at looking at their profiles and finding out, oh she's

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