The Duran Podcast - AfD Hits 28%: How Close Is Germany to a Political Earthquake?
Episode Date: April 28, 2026AfD Hits 28%: How Close Is Germany to a Political Earthquake? ...
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All right, Alexander, we have a new polling out from Germany, I believe from Build, actually, that ran this poll,
which shows that if there were elections taking place now, Avede would be the number one party.
It would win the elections with around 28% of the vote.
CDU, CSU, Mertz, is coalition, would be at around 24%.
So these latest polling figures are going to freak out the globalist elite.
No doubt about it.
We also have Black Rock Mertz making some interesting statements as he was giving speeches in Germany.
He was traveling around Germany giving speeches.
And Mertz said that Iran is humiliating the United States.
Trump is not going to be happy with those statements.
But that's what Mertz said.
And then he talked about Project Ukraine and basically his view as to how,
to resolve Project Ukraine, which he has floated out in the past before, is that Ukraine
agree to cede some territory. And in exchange, you could have a referendum in Ukraine.
Zelensky could run a referendum and he could say, okay, we're going to lose some territory,
but we're going to gain access to the European Union. And even there, Merch said,
yeah, we'll help Ukraine enter the European Union, but it will not be quick. It's not going to be,
in 2007. It's going to be a long process, but at least this is something that we could sell to the
Ukrainian people in a referendum. Should we get to that point where there could be some sort of
a resolution to Project Ukraine? Your thoughts on Mertz, who has been very active the past a couple of
weeks? I think before we turn to Mertz, let's talk about the IFD and how it's doing, because
what Mautz is saying is largely a response to the rise and return and growth.
of the IFD. Now, I understand that this is the highest polling, poll rating the IFD has so far achieved. It also
needs to be understood that we have in September elections coming up in the state of Saxony
Anhalt, and there the IFD is polling 40%. So it's looking very, very strong in some of the eastern
regions. As we've discussed in recent programs in Heinlein-Faels, in Baden-Weltenberg, in the local
regional elections that took place there, we can now start to see that the IFDA is starting to
break through in those places as well. These, of course, are part of the West German heartland.
So the IFDA continues to be extremely strong in Eastern Germany. In fact, the dominant
party, I would say, in most of Eastern Germany now. And it is becoming a major presence and a major
threat to the dominance, the historic dominance of the CDU on the right. Now, 28% is high.
24% for the CDU is disastrous. And we're talking about the party that has dominated.
German politics since the formation of the Bundes Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany,
following the end of the Second World War.
I mean, this is a catastrophic plunge for a party which routinely, in national polls,
polled above 40%.
So, you know, we need to keep that history in context.
But the real moment when the alarm bells are going to start rigging, when panic is going to start to take hold, is if the IFDA breaks through the 30% barrier.
It's very close now.
If the IFDA, in my opinion, starts to poll over 30%, having been either the most popular or one of the two most popular, or one of the two most,
popular, German parties for a very long time, then we can start to take seriously the possibility
that it mightly win a German federal election and could emerge as the biggest party in the
Bundestag, and not just the biggest party in the Bundestag, but a party which can claim that it has a right
to be the first to attempt to form a government.
So we are very close now to a political crisis,
at least as far as the globalist, Europeanist,
integrationist, establishment, EU establishment in Germany is concerned.
And we can see again that there's all sorts of steps being taken to try to
prevent the IFDEC from rising. For the moment at least, the idea of an outright ban seems to have been put off. I think
the legal obstacles remain very great to that. And of course, doing so now, I think it's understood
that it might actually cause major conflict with much of German society. But they're trying to do
other things. So they're changing the rules on how state parliaments elect their speaker,
basically in order to prevent the IFDA from having an effective say in how speakers are chosen
in regional parliaments, even in states where the IFTA does well. So you are sensing
an increasing crisis. And what melts in?
is trying to do, and he's trying to do it very badly because he has no real belief in this,
what he's trying to do is he's trying to adapt to this relentless, seemingly unstoppable growth
of the IFDA by coming up with these statements. So the IFDA has said that it wants all US bases
in Germany closed. Many people assume that would be unpopular.
policy that would lose the IFDAISA support. In fact, many people saw it as a sovereignist,
nationalist policy, which perhaps gained the IFDAS support. So now Matt comes along,
realizes that being seen as too close to the US is not such a good idea. So he comes out and says
that Iran has humiliated the United States, which, as you rightly say, is going to infuse
period, Donald Trump. Mertz understands also that confidence in project Ukraine across the German
nation is collapsing. So he's floating ideas again about a possible settlement, which involves
seeding territory to Russia. That, of course, is unacceptable to Zelensky. By the way, the proposal,
as Mautz makes it, is unacceptable to the Russians as well.
So it won't fly.
He's coming up with all sorts of other ideas.
He's also got Soder, the head of the Bavarian CSU, which is his sister party,
to come up with an extraordinary proposal to reintroduce conscription,
which is widely known to be something that Mautz would personally quite like to do.
But you see that he's trying to maneuver.
in response to the rise of the IFDA.
And I get to say something else here.
I have never, in my long period of following German politics,
known of a situation such as exists today,
where the Chancellor of Germany is so much less popular domestically
than he is abroad.
If you read the globalist newspapers, the financial times, for example,
Meertz is the great hero of the hour.
He's pushing forward German rearmament.
He's changing the whole direction of Germany's economic policy.
He's got this great plan for German re-industrialization,
whereas in Germany itself, his support is collapsing.
None of these proposals for Mertz, these ideas, I won't even call them proposals, these ideas from Mertz have any real meaning or substance to them, right?
I mean, no one takes them seriously.
Mertz talks about how Iran is now humiliating the United States, and no one expected Iran to fight so well and to engage in such good diplomacy.
He said that.
But it was Mertz who supported Trump's attack on Iran.
to the White House, and he supported Trump and attacking Iran, and he supported regime change of
Iran, and all of that stuff.
Absolutely.
Yeah, he talks about Zelensky and ceding territory and freezing the conflict and you see
territory.
Then Zelensky can sell a referendum, which gets Ukraine into the EU.
But it's Merch that continues to escalate with Russia.
Merz is one of the main obstacles towards getting to some sort of a diplomatic solution.
in Project Ukraine. He demands further escalation. He demands European,
arming the European military and building up the German military for some sort of future
conflict with Russia. He's the one that continuously talks about not engaging in talks with
Russia or with Putin. So everything that he's saying is lies. I mean, I don't have
any other word to explain. It's just all lies. And he's just doing this, as you said, to try and maybe
steal some thunder from the I've De. But the German people are not going to believe these
statements from Black Rock Merz. Are they? I think they see through Mertz at this moment of time.
You've answered the question. And by the way, every point that you're making is, in my opinion,
both excellent and true. Mitz is coming up with these statements, which nobody's.
believes he takes seriously himself.
He's been the most pro-American
Chancellor since
the time of Conrad Adder now. And now suddenly
he says that the United States
is being humiliated in a
war. He did nothing to stop and
did everything to encourage. And he says
that nobody could have predicted this outcome.
If he'd come and watch our programmes,
we would not have had been
so much trouble. So just to say,
so anyway, he's
nobody really believes
this.
He's talk about peace in Ukraine.
Nobody believes it either because he's the single most obsessively anti-Russian German leader I have ever come across.
I mean, people talk about Conrad Adonow in the 50s, but Adonow went to Moscow.
He met with Grusuf there.
I mean, he was also a statesman of, well, I won't say genius, but at least of great statue.
Maths? It's absurd.
The point is, and this is the point actually you're making,
he says all of these things, but in terms of his policies, he's changing nothing.
He continues to focus on the Russians. He continues to demand escalation.
He won't countenance any degree of economic detente with the Russians. He's not prepared
to even consider the possibility of Germany importing gas and oil from Russia again.
In fact, he's doing everything he possibly can to make that absolutely impossible by passing
a few laws to prevent it from happening in the future.
He's rhetoric on rearmament may play very well in the editorial pages of the Financial Times
and some other Western media outlets,
of a certain perspective, but it is completely unpopular in Germany itself. People in Germany
understand that Black Rock Mertz isn't actually going to deliver rearmament in any meaningful way.
And they also worry that if by any possible chance he does, well, it's absolutely something
they don't want to see and they don't like.
So he comes up with all these very strange, all these weird comments.
And some of them are pretty weird.
But ultimately, he's not prepared to change course.
In fact, he keeps his foot firmly down on the accelerator as the cliff comes into view.
Merz wants to weaken Germany so that his buddies can purchase every.
on the cheap. Is that a correct statement?
I think that, yeah.
Yeah. In a very simple way, that that's just the sense that I get of him is that he
wants to, he wants to send Germany off the cliff so that all of his buddies then could just
swoop in and just gobble up everything.
Yeah.
I mean, what he privately thinks, I mean, it's very difficult to say.
I mean, I get to say something.
I mean, we were told before he became chancellor, before he became leader of the CDU, the
he was this tremendous lawyer and economic and financial genius.
I have to say that my own opinion of men's since he became Chancellor
is that he's not actually that right, just my own personal view.
But, you know, he might somehow at some level actually believe that what he's doing
is good for Germany.
But what he thinks really is irrelevant, because what he is working to do,
and what all the forces around him are getting him to do is exactly what he said.
I mean, Germany is being dismantled so that all of his friends, buddies can go in, grab
whatever is there, walk away in the way that you would expect them to do and make themselves
an awful lot of money in the process.
You know, it reminds me of Russia in the 90s in a way in that all of the far
countries, they were rushing into Russia in the 90s as Russia was collapsing and they were buying
everything on the cheap, right? And they were super happy about it. That's when they loved Russia.
That's when Bill Clinton was hosting Yeltsin at the White House and they were buddies and pals.
Russia could do no wrong in the 90s because basically Russia was collapsing and it was open
to all of the foreign vultures to come in and to buy up everything and to take all of the resources
and to pillage and plunder the country.
That's what they wanted to happen with Russia in 2022 when Project Ukraine got started.
And it didn't succeed.
And now it seems that they've just accepted the fact that, you know what, if we can't do it to Russia, well, maybe we could just do it here at home, right?
It sounds weird.
But I was listening to what you're saying.
And I'm just thinking it really is.
In a way, it's what we couldn't do to Russia in the 90s.
and what we couldn't do to Russia in 2022, we might as well just keep it in-house.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, you're absolutely right about something else also because, of course, Yolson was turning
up in the White House.
He was being feted around the world as this great heroic leader.
But, of course, in Russia itself, his black popularity was imploding.
And it's the same as happening, not quite at the same speed, but in something like the same way,
to Mounce as well.
So, yes, I think so.
I mean, you know, understanding Matt's background, the fact that he was a Black Rock, I think
explains an awful lot about his policies.
And it also explains, well, it's deeply unpopular in Germany itself.
The Germans sense what this is all about.
They are very unhappy, and they don't like it, and they don't like it at all.
they have another party, the IFD, which is coming forward and proposing a program, which actually
is much more like the classical, traditional, conservative German programs, which the
CDU used to be the champion of.
I've said this many times.
If you unpack some of the rhetoric, if you...
understand that the foreign policies, the global situation is now completely different.
So that on foreign policy, the IFDA takes a completely different line.
But if you look at what the IFDA basically stands for, it's not that far from what the
CDU used to stand for at the time of the German miracle in the 50s.
Just a second.
Yeah.
If the Avede were to ever come to power, it should also exit the European Union as Germany.
That would be the path towards Germany saving itself in the next 10 to 20 years.
If they don't do these moves, if the Avede doesn't come into power and they don't leave the European
Union, then Germany's going to be sunk.
Well, indeed.
Can I say the time to change course is relatively short.
he does still have great industrial depths, great engineering depth. But we've discussed in many
programs, going back to the Merkel years, the underlying problems within the German economy,
which of course matters making far worse. The time for a turnaround is not huge. And if the IFDA were
to come to power at some point over the next two or three years, they would have to act very
radically and very quickly to turn things around. And one of the most radical things they would need
to do is that which you have just said. There is no cohabitation between an IFDA government
and the structures in Brussels. If they try to do that, they're doomed. Yeah, just a final note. How can you
make a quick turnaround with Brussels hanging over your head? Well, you can't. You can't.
Trying to control all your moves. You have to. Even Mertz and Ursula.
don't get along. I mean, even they have issues. Can you imagine I've dend and Dursala?
Absolutely. So, I mean, there would have to be that decision made. They would have to take
steps immediately to restore Germany's currency, which of course, Germany is in a position to do
in ways that other EU, Eurozone countries can't. But the Germans can do it. But they need to do
it fast. Because if they don't, then the whole thing will lose momentum and will go into reverse.
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