The Duran Podcast - Biden not briefed on attacks on ships in Middle East
Episode Date: December 13, 2023Biden not briefed on attacks on ships in Middle East ...
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All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is happening in the Middle East.
And let's discuss how Biden has been taken out of the decision-making process, or at least the briefing, the information process.
That's the way it looks.
The Biden administration doesn't seem to confident in briefing Biden as to what is happening,
specifically with the warships that are in the Middle East.
And the reports that those ships are being attacked, though,
the information is, it's a bit hazy as to what exactly is happening with these attacks on these ships.
And that's probably deliberate in order to prevent Biden from expanding this conflict.
Anyway, what are your thoughts about this revelation with Biden?
in the Middle East. You're absolutely correct. The information is beyond hazy. I mean, it's very difficult
to work out what's going on. But reportedly, the Houthis in Yemen, of course, aligned with Iran
and supporting the Palestinians in Gaza. Anyway, the Houthis have been firing rockets at Israel,
that we know. But apparently, they've also been launching attacks, according to these reports,
anyway, they've been launching attacks on commercial shipping in the Red Sea. And remember, the Red Sea is an
important access point. It's the exit point, an entry point of the Suez Canal. So it's a major
transport corridor. But apparently there's been, supposedly there's been some attacks on
commercial shipping there. A US destroyer, the USS Carney has been involved. There's apparently
been possible attacks on the US
Kani itself, which it has been able to
carry, but we're not being told very much
about this. But the big story, and we're getting it
principally from Politico, but now National Review
and others have weighed in. But the big story
is that someone in the administration,
somebody important in the administration has decided that the president himself should not be provided with formal briefings about what is actually going on in the Red Sea.
So a decision has been made that Biden, the president of the United States, the commander in chief, should not be briefed about attacks, not just commercial shipping, but military engagements,
involving a destroyer of the US fleet.
Now that is extraordinary,
and it begs many, many questions.
And the obvious explanation to this
is the one that we've gone back to,
it goes back to the various programs that we've made
about this Middle East crisis.
What are all these warships doing in the Middle East?
and we suggested in various programs that they were sent to the Middle East
with the ultimate intention of launching some kind of strike at Iran
it's clear to me now that that must have been the case
because some people in the administration
who have decided that a strike on Iran
and an escalation of the crisis in the Middle East
and an expansion of the war
are not in US interests
are keeping this information from the president
in other words
it looks to me as if it was the president himself
who decided to move all these warships to the Middle East
in fact
I mean if you understand the American chain of command
that makes absolute sense
it was the president who took that decision
it was the president who probably envisaged
that they would be used in the way that I've said
for a potential strike against Iran
and that there are some people in the administration, in the US government,
who not wanting a possible strike against Iran
or against the Houthis, which might eventually lead to a strike against Iran,
that they are now keeping information away from the president.
I mean, that is my best reconstruction of this.
And National Review, by the way, came to a very similar reconstruction to mine,
though they did this from the opposite perspective to the one that we have,
because National Review is one of those publications,
which ultimately does want to see a strike on Iran.
But anyway, there we are.
So it tells you how dangerous this situation is,
what the ultimate purpose of these naval deployments,
was and the fact that there are some people in the administration who don't trust the president
in this kind of crisis to make what they consider to be a correct decision and are keeping
information away from him yeah they understand that if Biden was was allowed to make decisions
we'd probably be in in a World War III situation so they said better not tell him anything
and just let him do what he does without knowing what's actually going on.
It makes perfect sense.
How is this?
Well, this is very different from the deep state disobeying Trump during his final days in office with,
I believe it was with Syria, where Trump told the military to move the troops out of Syria
and the military they disobeyed him.
But that was like during the last week or two of Trump's presidency.
So this is a big deal.
This is very different than the way they disobeyed Trump.
This is the dimmetic opposite to that.
I mean, what happened then was that the deep state sabotaged and the president's order,
the president actually specifically ordered troops to be withdrawn from Syria.
So they sabotaged that order.
in order to maintain and expand a military presence in Syria,
which is in effect prolonging a conflict there.
This is some people in the US government,
probably including members of the deep state,
doing the diametric opposite,
keeping information from the president
in order to prevent him making an order which might result in an escalating and out-of-control conflict in the Middle East.
In the first case, in other words, it was intended to prolong a conflict.
In this case, it is intended to prevent a conflict.
Yeah.
All right.
Is there anything else to discuss with this?
Well, I would say straight away, it tells us how dangerous the situation still is.
The fact that all these warships are still in the Middle East, how dangerous that is,
how the potential for them to be used in alarming ways is.
But it also tells us something else that there are people within the administration who don't trust the president.
Now, that is catastrophic.
and it is in itself a sign of how dysfunctional the government of the United States currently is.
But it also tells us a lot about what some people feel about the president
that given a choice between a policy of restraint and discipline and calculation,
such as Trump did show.
I mean, you remember when there was the Soleimani,
affair, he established a back channel with the Iranians and actually acted to diffuse that crisis.
That people often forget that they don't trust the president to do that thing, that very thing,
and that they fear that if the president is given freedom to act, he will involve the United
States in an even greater crisis.
I wonder if these are the same people that are putting pressure on Netanyahu to get to some.
prolongs ceasefire.
Well, I think it is.
I think they are, and I think
at the moment that they are the ascendant group
within the administration, and I suspect
that they're backed by most of the people
in the State Department and by
most of the people in the Defense Department
that don't make the mistake of thinking
that these people are moderates.
It's just that they understand
that the kind of crisis that
we might find ourselves
in the Middle East is
potentially an uncontrolled.
one and could have catastrophic outcomes.
So, you know, this is a very dangerous situation.
And these reports, the one in Politico and National Review,
tell us how dangerous the situation actually is.
Yeah, and you have Netanyahu coming out pretty much on a daily basis
speaking to the hardliners and the people that want to escalate and would like Biden
to give the orders for these warships to start attacking the Houthis or Iraq.
or something like that. Because every day, Netanyahu, pretty much every day, he's coming out with statements warning Hezbollah and Lebanon and Iran.
And it seems like he's hoping for a widening out of the conflict.
That's exactly, that is exactly correct. That is exactly what he wants to do.
From his point of view, that is the only way I think that Netanyahu can be confident or at least can believe that he,
he might be able to come out and top out of this crisis.
I mean, he's under enormous pressure within Israel itself.
The Gaza operation is proving protracted and very difficult,
and is causing massive reputational damage to Israel.
And the only way that he can extricate himself from that
is by expanding the war.
And he believes, he's got good reason to believe
that there are people in the United States.
in Washington who would like that.
And there are other people in Washington
who understand what a disaster that would be
and who are acting to try to restrain him.
And we know that those people
who want to avoid a wider war in the Middle East
don't trust the President of the United States
on this question.
They're having a hard time restraining Netanyahu,
that's for sure.
But they can keep Biden.
in the dark.
Well, for the moment
that's easy to do it seems.
Well, for the moment
they can, except of course the point about
these leaks, presumably,
was that
my guess is that they were
put out there by the hard
liners, the one who wants to expand
the war, in order to alert Biden.
Yeah,
yeah, absolutely.
The media wants
a widening out of the conflict, absolutely.
and then they're controlled by the neocons and the hardliners.
Okay.
Makes sense.
All right.
We'll leave it there.
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