The Duran Podcast - Congress certifies TRUMP win. TRUDEAU resigns

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

Congress certifies TRUMP win. TRUDEAU resigns

All right, Alexander, let's talk about the Trump inauguration, which is coming up in a couple of weeks. And I believe that Trump is, I believe, today, he is officially the president of the United, elect of the United States, the electoral college. Yeah, that's today. And so now all he has left is the inauguration. we are getting reports that a lot of his nominees will be approved by the Senate, or most of his nominees will be approved by the Senate for various positions in his cabinet. And then to finish the video, to wrap up the video, we should discuss Trudeau's resignation. I don't think this is a rumor.

No, I don't think it's a rumor, not at all. I think it's going to happen. But I think there's more to the story than just Trudeau resigning. Anyway, let's start with Trump. Well, indeed. I mean, can I, we've had this time, by the late recent standards, a relatively trouble-free transition. When I say trouble-free, it's important to be careful in one's use of words in that it has not been a cooperative transition. I mean, what used to happen, what was happened in the glory days of the United States, which to say it straightforwardly ended about 10 years ago.

What used to happen is that the president, the outgoing president and his team would use the transition to inform and instruct and prepare the new team so that when the new team took office, they were fully aware and well informed about all of the things that were going to. on and that they needed to take care of, you know, conflicts around the world, major economic problems, whatever, so that there would be basically a very smooth transition. The new team would come in, fully informed, fully prepared for all that they needed to do. I don't get the sense that's been the case this time at all. On the contrary, we've had the Biden administration making one decision after another. We've had things with the Middle East. We've discussed this in various programs. They've done things in Ukraine. They're pushing forward big arms packages to Israel. They've been thinking about missile strikes on Iran. They've been doing all kinds of things

with the energy, you know, trying to stop Trump following through with his energy policies. they've been doing everything they possibly can to make it as difficult as possible for Trump once he becomes president. However, the big difference is that this has not been a contested transition in the way that the previous two were. And if I can really focus on the first one, the 2016, 2017 transition. If you remember what happened during that transition is that the Democrats were openly saying, the media was openly saying, that Trump had won the presidency

with the help of the Russians. We had the Russiagate investigations being launched. We had all kinds of memos and things from the intelligence community, basically appearing to give credence to that. We had an investigation being conducted by the FBI. We had meetings between Donald Trump and the director of the FBI, who was showing him all kinds of documents,

which were intended to put Trump in an awkward position. We had clearly organized attempts within the Senate to block Trump's nominees for the, for, you know, cabinet posts. And by the way, we also had attempts. to persuade electors on the electoral college, not to vote for Donald Trump. Again, people tend to forget this, but there were attempts to do that, and it was written about in the media, and all of those things. Now, we've not had anything like that really this time. There was one very bizarre article in the Hill, which again floated the idea that

the Electoral College should not support Trump or not elect Trump. But that has basically faded out. There was some concerns that Johnson would not be re-elected speaker. He has been re-elected speaker. The point about that is if there was no speaker in the House of Representatives, according to the Constitution, the House of Representatives would not be able to continue business, to do any further business, which means that the Electoral College couldn't meet, and the Electoral College is the only body constitutionally created in the United States that elects the president.

So the actual formal legal election is the one that the, according to the Constitution, is the one that the electoral college is going to do. Well, this time, that attempt to create issues in the electoral college hasn't happened. And it looks as if I'm increasingly getting the sense that though there are some people within the Republican Party who are still very hostile to Trump, the attempt to, block his candidates from their cabinet posts is gradually fading away and that Trump will get nearly all of the people that he wants and perhaps indeed all of the people that he wants. And this time he's had a lot more help picking them and has picked people who are much,

much more loyal and reliable to himself. So this has been a much, much smoother transition than the one that happened between 2016 and 2017. There's not been that fraught, nervous, even hysterical atmosphere that we had there. Okay, so what's the deep state, permanent state's angle then to Dereil Trump because they're not just going to accept his presidency or his picks. No. Many of his picks are controversial for them. Yeah, they're going to do everything. For the permanent state. What's their angle then? Well, right, they're going to do, they're going to do two things. I mean, first of all, they will, they will obstruct to the extent that they can his domestic policy. And I suspect that the way they're going to try and do it is by using the legal system. I mean, they will try

to get various judges in different places to rule that this executive order and that executive order is wrong and unconstitutional and freeze it. And they'll try and bog it all down in legal disputes, going all the way up to the Supreme Court of the United States. And they'll use that to slow it all down. And they will also try to win over some of Trump's picks. And here they might be successful because some of these people, though they do seem to be more loyal to Trump, are very inexperienced and might easily be persuaded.

Trump has been careful here, by the way, to pick for the lower ranking posts, people who are perhaps rather more experienced and sharper than some of the headline picks. So to give an example, he's picked Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense. Now, there's been a lot of things said about Pete Hegs says, but everybody accepts that he's not an intellectual. he would say the same, and that he's not a person with a huge amount of experience. But the person who's going to be the Assistant Secretary for Policy is Eldridge Colby, who is somebody who is now very much an intellectual and thinker, and who is speaking out increasingly in favour of a defence and foreign policy

that prioritises American defence, over forever wars. He's a critic of the war in Ukraine, for example, and he's a critic of US commitments to NATO and to Europe. And he's been put in a important position further down within the system. And Trump seems to understand the importance of these secondary picks a lot better than he did. But anyway, they will try and win over some of these people that Trump is appointing. and they will obstruct others. I suspect that Tulsi Gabald, if she does become Director of National Intelligence, is going to have a massively tough time getting control of the intelligence community.

Even with the CIA are going to be headed by Radcliffe, who's another Trump loyalist, supposedly. But it's going to be very, very difficult to bring this whole machine under control. And then, of course, they're going to use the media. and they're going to use investigations in the Congress, if they can arrange them. They're going to work with the rhinos in the Senate. And above all, they're going to try and involve Trump in all kinds of foreign adventures, in Ukraine, in the Middle East, in against China, wherever they can.

They're going to try to get him involved in all of these conflicts and try to divert the divert him away for whatever it is he wants to do in the United States by taking up all of his time with those conflicts. And my own view is that he's got about a year to really stamp his will on the American government. And if he doesn't do that, then he risks a big swing back to the Democrats in 2026. And then, of course, the Congress. might start to change its complexion. The Democrats might probably will regain control of the House. And then, of course, he's a gender as son. Yeah. The appointment of Colby, or at least the people that he's appointing in positions under the secretaries, at least with

foreign policy, definitely shows some sort of swing towards China. Yes. Correct? So, I mean, And Colby is one of those appointees who's definitely against escalating in Ukraine, not so hot on Europe, not so hot on NATO. The Middle East, I'm not so sure about his policy on the Middle East, but I do know that when it comes to China. He's more hawkish. Now, whether that hawkish stance is more economic, sanctions, or military, I'm not quite sure. I believe it is more. My sense of it, it's more of an economic type of hawkish posturing towards China. But I could be wrong about that.

But you can definitely see that there is in his foreign policy. Maybe the deal that is going to be made with the permanent state is, you know, we have to move away from Ukraine, but we'll give you China or at least sanctions or tougher economic. policies towards China? Is that what the bargain may be? Yes, this is exactly what he's shaping up in the sense that what is happening and to some extent Trump himself is encouraging it is that he wants to get away from Europe. He wants to distance the US from Europe. But the way it's been packaged and explained and I'm not saying that Trump himself isn't himself part of the this, is that we need to pivot away decisively from Europe. Europe is really not so important anymore. It's going down economically. The Russians are not really a major threat, our major danger.

We have to focus on China instead. And yes, I think that for Trump himself, it is mostly about trade and economics. But the trouble is the rhetoric in the United States is basically becoming very anti-China. And you might say that you want to limit it to trade and economics, but it could very easily spiral out of your hands. And it could very well end up that he's going to find himself with more and more demands to confront China militarily as well. So, you This is going to be a very difficult thing to control if that is indeed what Trump wants to do. If he wants to go all in and confront China, then there will be a consensus in the United States supporting him. But it will get the United States into a hell of a lot of trouble.

right okay so let's talk a bit about the possible resignation of of Trudeau which is going to be a big Zelensky a Leski curse moment if Trudeau does resign it does look like he's going to resign as the reports are by Wednesday we should get his resignation but from what I understand the the angle here that the strategy that the liberal party is employing is that the that, and this is very much under pressure from his own party to resign, is that Trudeau resigns, and my understanding of things is that the liberals will then try to form a new government. In the meantime, Trudeau will stay on as a type of caretaker, prime minister, and this way the liberal party maybe they avoid any type of snap election,

because the reports were that there was going to be a vote of no confidence for Trudeau's government and then that would have pushed Canada into some sort of of an election cycle but I believe that the strategy is to try and avoid elections for the Liberal Party to then have another shot at or to have a shot at forming a government with Trudeau stepping down but in the meantime he will remain as prime minister so I'm not sure I'm not an expert in Canadian politics but I believe that is the play yes that they're going for here but I could be wrong about this and of course we welcome comments from viewers who have a better understanding of the political

angles. Yes. The palace intrigue that is happening in Canada. But anyway, what are your thoughts about this? No, I absolutely agree. I think that is exactly what they want to do. I mean, I think they want to get rid of Trudeau. I don't know necessarily that they want to change the political orientation of Canada. And I think they very much do want to remain in government and in power, where they have been by the way now for a very, very long time. So they're going to pull all the strings and all the wires that they can to try to remain where they are and hope that under a new leader, whoever that's going to be,

they will do better in the election than they might otherwise have done and perhaps even cling on. Whether that is realistic, whether that's possible is another matter. But I agree. I think that they want to avoid a vote of no confidence. They understand that Trudeau is, shot under the water line that if he remains Prime Minister, he's going to

pull the Liberals down with him. And I think they do decide to get rid of him, which I'm sure they will, by the way. I also am of the view, as you are, that he's almost certainly going out this week, one way or the other. I would be very surprised if he's still here in a week's time. if they can engineer all of this then I think

they see that he's damaged they see that he's going down what they hope to do is leverage him out get someone else in steady the situation and hope somehow that that pulls things around

whether it does is another matter I suspect most of the media will back them in Canada as it always does now I suspect that a lot of people in Canada by now are very angry and very disillusioned with the Liberal Party. I still sense that it will go down to a big defeat, but then I'm far away in Britain and I can't be sure of this. The one thing I have to say is that whether he stays or whether he goes, and I'm sure he is going, Trudeau has changed Canada

and he's changed it I think forever and very much for the worst I have to say that I mean the damage that's been done the change in Canadian politics that has happened

during his premiership is not something that is going to be reversed anytime soon and you know people who remember the old Canada, as I do, you know, the Canada of, you know, McKenzie King. Not that I remember him. He died, I think, in the late 40s, but, you know, the kind of Canada that he created. He's Canada's equivalent to FDR, if you like, of Lester Pearson, whom I do remember, by the way, slightly, Pierre Trude, all of those, you know, Justin's notional father, just saying. Anyway, anyone who remembers the old Canada needs to understand that what has happened over the last era, the era, the Justin Trudeau era, that Canada has been transformed completely.

It has basically gone. Yeah, just a final thought. Everything that appears to be unfolding in Canada with Trudeau and the resignation. really does remind me of of Macron in France. It reminds me of what's unfolding in Germany with the IFD and Mertz and Schultz and the IFD. It reminds me of what recently happened in Austria, where you had Nieheimer also resigning. Yes.

But everything is about trying to keep the globalist forces, the neoliberal globalist forces in power and prevent any type of opposition or perceived. opposition from gaining power. I mean, it's almost seems like it's all copy-paced. They're not exactly the same situations, but it really does remind me of everything that is that is going on or is happening in so many. This is absolutely correct. What they're basically doing is that, you know, the ship goes on in the same direction and at the same speed, but you just change the captain. Or perhaps not even the captain, because he's not really the captain, the man of the steering wing.

you just change him around put someone else in and pretend that that's changed even as I said the course is for saying. That's what they're trying to do and they're going to try to do that in Canada and they're going to do that in Germany

and they're going to try and do that in France and in Austria and you know wherever they can and of course you know the iceberg maybe they're floating not that far into the distance but we just go steaming on towards it because these people will not change course or direction.

And in terms of the grossly authoritarian methods, this is, I think, one of the Trudeau premierships's most terrible legacies. I mean, he actually created the precedence here. You know, the freezing of accounts and the seizing of things of that kind. all of those things that were attempted during the truck as strike. You remember all of those. Obviously, there's been legal pushback on all of this. It's been reversed to some extent in legal terms. But the fact is it's been done. The taboo about doing it has been broken. And there's a good chance, I think, that sooner or later, in some form or other, it's all going to come back. And it's all going to come back this time in a more worked out and legalized form. All right.

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