The Duran Podcast - Democratic Party factional war

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

Democratic Party factional war ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is happening in the United States and what is happening with President Biden. He is still president with Kamala Harris, who is going to be running for president. And who is supporting? Who is supporting Kamala Harris? Most of the Democrat Party has united behind Kamala Harris. not, they're not very enthusiastic about it, but it seems like they are uniting behind her. Soros seems to be uniting behind Kamala Harris. Clintons have endorsed Kamala Harris after there were reports that they were not endorsing Kamala Harris and they were supporting Biden.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And we have the two big question marks. Pelosi, she hasn't endorsed Kamala, at least not. not at the time of this recording. And then we have the very big question mark, which is Obama. So let's discuss what is going on here. Indeed, what is indeed going on here. Now, I think that Obama and Pelosi and Obama especially understand that Harris, Kamala Harris, has major, major problems going forward in terms of defeating Donald Trump or really holding back the Republican surge, which I think they all now fear. Fear is going to come. And I think we now need to come to the actual understanding of why what has happened with Biden has happened. Biden was not
Starting point is 00:01:50 forced to step down because he is incapable or infirm or because he had a bad debate with Donald Trump. Biden was forced to step down because all of the opinion polling apparently and by some media reports more opinion polling that appeared private opinion polling that appeared on Sunday showed that he's going to, he would have been massively. defeated by Donald Trump in November. Everything that we've seen happen is about the November election. It is about stopping Donald Trump either winning the presidency or if Donald Trump is nonetheless in spite of everything going to win the presidency, trying to prevent a route of the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:02:48 in the congressional elections, which happen, as we know, together with the presidential elections this year. So these people, these people who have been pressing Biden to stand down, are not concerned about the fact that Biden isn't, you know, all there. He hasn't been all there at any time in his presidency. He wasn't all there when they nominated him and backed him. in 2020 when he won the election against Donald Trump. He's not all there when he makes all the decisions or appears to make the decisions about Ukraine, about the war, about the economy, about the general way in which the United States is run or the way it conducts its policies.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It is because he looks at this moment of time a loser and a big, loser. So they had to get rid of him because he's going to lose. He would have lost the election in November. The problem they now have is that having got rid of one loser, they're now left with someone who pretty much everybody within the political system and within the opinion polling system believes is another loser who is Kamala Harris. Now Kamala Harris is the vice president. She is the only person, realistically, that can take over from Biden. She was part of the Biden-Harris team. You know, the president and the vice president,
Starting point is 00:04:33 she would have been renominated as vice president of the convention, the coming Democratic Party convention in August. if Biden had continued to stand. With Biden now stepping down, she's the obvious and natural choice to take over from him, both as candidate and, by the way, as president. But all of them know that she's going to lose.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So their underlying problem has not been solved. They're still going to lose in November. And the opinion polls suggest that with Kamala leading them, they're going to lose as badly in November as they might have done if they'd stuck with Joe Biden. So what do they do? Well, I think that Obama and Pelosi are trying to keep holdback from endorsing Kamala Harris because they hope that there will be an open contest. and somebody rather more convincing, you know, Gretchen from Michigan or Pritzkler from Illinois or Newsom from California will come forward. The problem is that it's becoming increasingly clear that none of those people is going to come forward. None of them wants to go into this election and lose to Donald Trump in November.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So they're all coming out, all of these alternative candidates. are coming up and endorsing Kamala Harris. Because, well, better Kamala Harris than them. That is their calculation. And the result is that though Obama and Pelosi and these people, who were, to be clear, the archplotters who orchestrated the coup that brought Biden down, know that Kamala Harris is not the ideal replacement for Biden. They are going to be left with her because there is no one else.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And on the other side of the factional war, which there always is within the Democratic Party, the very fact that it was Obama who wanted to try to engineer Biden's removal, made it inevitable that the rival faction, the Clinton faction, would want Biden to stay. Now that Biden has gone, that same faction, the Clintons, is now, of course, uniting behind Kamala Harris, because, of course, that's their way of keeping Obama's influence over the Democratic Party at bay. So we have a factional war between the Clinton faction and the Obama faction, and we also have a fundamental problem with the election in November. But one way or the other, the important thing is that we're going to get Kamala Harris as the Democratic Party's nominee for the presidential election.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And I don't think she's going to face a contest, but it's absolutely clear that the key figures in the Democratic Party, Obama, Pelosi, apparently Biden himself or belief that she's going to lose and lose badly. I agree with you on this assessment. I think, let me take it a step further and let me know what you think. Obama played his cards very well here. I believe that him not coming out and endorsing Kamala, even though many people believe, including myself, I believe you as well, believe that he was the person that was orchestrating everything that brought us to today.
Starting point is 00:09:00 even though he was the man behind the curtain, I believe it was a smart move to let everyone put their cards on the table to get everyone to endorse Kamala Harris, to get the Clintons to endorse Kamala Harris. I believe Obama, I believe Kamala Harris is part of the Obama or is closer to the Obama circle than any other Democrat family, Democrat Party family or clan. I believe she's much closer to the Obama side of things.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So he doesn't endorse anybody. He says, he calls for party unity. The New York Times actually wrote an article about Obama not endorsing Kamala Harrison. They said that Obama is playing the part of the elder statesman. He doesn't want to put his thumb on the scale of democracy. He's calling for party unity. It doesn't mean he's not supportive of Kamala Harris. because some Republicans were saying that the fact that Obama has not endorsed Kamala Harris
Starting point is 00:10:04 means that Obama doesn't support Kamala Harris. The New York Times immediately pushed back on that. And they said, no, no, no, it doesn't mean that Obama does not support Kamala Harris. On the contrary, he doesn't want to get in the way of the democratic process. He wants to rise above. And to me, this is classic Obama, isn't it? I mean, this is classic textbook Obama, how he operates. Absolutely. He's being the manipulative, dialful intriguer that he always is. He always is there behind the curtain. I once called him President McCavity. Do you remember there's this poem by D.S. Eliot about, you know, the evil cat, the criminal mastermind, Maccabity, who does commits all these crimes and the point about Maccavity is he's never there. That's exactly what Obama is. I mean, that's exactly how he's,
Starting point is 00:11:00 he functions. So, you know, there's a war in Syria, there's a coup in Ukraine, there's all sorts of things go wrong in the world. But, you know, Obama is not really involved. You know, he wasn't involved in the Libyan war. It was all Hillary. He always gets other people to do things, or at least to appear to do things, even whilst he's pulling all the strings of the background himself. And of course, what he knows is that in November, Kamala Harris is going to crash. so then he'll be the person who's there to pick up the pieces and say, well, you know, I'm the great elder statesman, I even the person who can unite the party.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You know, I'm not directly implicated in this disaster. I didn't even publicly come out and tell Biden to go, by the way. I mean, you know, that's a, we all know that he was involved and active in doing it. But, you know, he got others to do all the heavy work for him. You know, George Clooney writing opens. for the New York Times or that kind of thing. So that is his way. He's going to sit back,
Starting point is 00:12:09 let this thing play out, let Kamala Harris lose. Because I think he knows perfectly well Kamala Harris is going to lose. And then he's going to step in in November, pick up the pieces of what's left of the Democratic Party and take it forward in the way that he wants to do. and perhaps isolating the Clintons in the process.
Starting point is 00:12:33 It's, as you absolutely rightly say, classic Obama. Now, the thing to understand about the Kamala Harris-Biden team is that back in 2020, I mean, there was clearly a deal done. The Clintons at that time were backing Biden. They had some kind of long-standing connection with him. Obama was not so sure. so to balance the ticket, as they like to say in the US. Kamala Harris was brought in because she's more, as you correctly say, closer to Obama than she is to the Clintons.
Starting point is 00:13:12 In fact, she's aligned with Obama more than she is with the Clintons. So that was really what that was all about. Now, as I said, Biden has been forced to step down. Clintons didn't want him to step down. but Obama has engineered it. Kamala Harris takes over. She goes down in flames. Obama is untainted by the effect because he's not going to publicly endorse her. He's going to be the elder statesman who rises above everything. And then when it's all over, he's there to pick up the pieces.
Starting point is 00:13:45 As a very general rule, as an iron rule of politics, I want to just say something. People who talk in that way, you know, that they can. going to be the elder statesman, that they're going to rise above the factional fighting, that they are always interested, first and foremost, in the interests of the party and all of that. They are the people you should be most careful of. They are the most treacherous, the most guileful, the most deceitful, the most manipulative. This is an iron rule of politics. Take it from me as a grizzled veteran, the political struggles and bureaucratic struggles. People who present themselves in that way are absolutely not to be trusted.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. And he got the Clintons to endorse Harris. Whatever deal they worked out, the Clinton clan and the Harris Obama clan, doesn't matter. He got them to publicly endorse Harris 24 hours after NBC said that the Clintons are endorsing Biden. They want Biden to stay. The Clintons come out and they endorse Harris. So Obama played this very well. That's my sense of it.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You may not like how Obama does his business, but in this instance, I think he played this very well. And I think it's just as you say, he can sit back, watch all of this unfold. If things go disastrously wrong for Kamala, he can say, look, I supported her. I did an endorse her. I supported her. I supported Joe. I support the Democrat Party. I want the Democrat Party to be unified. Here I am to pick up the pieces and rebuild a new, a new, more powerful, a better Democrat party. So that comes to to the question of Kamala Harris and what should the Democrats do going forward. Should they let Kamala Harris run? Should she become the president and run?
Starting point is 00:15:49 run as an incumbent. And should her vice president pick be a person that is going to take on perhaps J.D. Vance in 2028? Should that be the game plan? Accept the loss in 24, but at least try to try to do something in Congress, try to get a win either in the House or in the Senate, and position yourself going forward for 2028? It's all very good questions. Firstly, I think that they will have to accept Kamala Harris as their candidate. And my own advice, if I was advising them now, is that forget all about these ideas of, you know, sort of special primaries and all that kind of thing, which look like a fix anyway.
Starting point is 00:16:38 The fact is that she's the vice president. she's had the endorsements as part of the Biden team. Just slot in. She's the obvious person to take over. You want to keep the disruption as limited as possible. It's already had very bad effect on the whole election process, the fact that you've had to dump your incumbent, your leader just a few months before the election itself.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'd say just go for Kamala Harris. It can only be her. Don't make things any more complicated and disorganized and chaotic than they are already. And for heaven's sake, try to get everybody to matters to back Kamala before the convention, because the very last thing you want is a chaotic and disorganized convention. especially after the Republicans put up such a well-organized and such an effective and such a disciplined convention. So I think that they will need to unite behind Harris, and I think that's what they're going to do. The second thing they need to do, and they need to do this quickly, is they need to get Joe to step down from the presidency.
Starting point is 00:18:07 He's clinging on to this, and this is very bad. It is constitutionally, or at least institutionally, unnormalists. Already we see the republic is coming out and saying what the Democrats are doing, running Harris and at the same time keeping Biden in the presidency, makes absolutely no sense. If he's not fit to be their candidate in November, then he's not fit to be president. I think they should get him to step down immediately. Otherwise, this issue is going to fester and it's going to grow.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And there is another problem because Harris could then find herself in a situation, which is almost unique in American politics, in which she is responsible for the increasingly eccentric decisions of a president who she is still tied to because she remains that president's vice president. So it's really, I mean, it's something that really doesn't work. and she should be pushing and the Democrats should be pushing for Biden to go and to do this as quickly as possible, ideally before the convention. In fact, definitely before the convention. The longer they leave it, as I said, the more unpredictable and dangerous and politically toxic this whole situation potentially can become.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And the third thing they need to do, obviously, is to find a vice president, a rather a running mate for Kamala. And it has to be someone who can, you know, be an effective challenger to J.D. Vance, not just in 2028, but now, because Kamala is probably not going to do terribly well, to say straightforwardly against Trump in the debates which are coming in pretty much anything. So you need to find someone who is up to the game of taking on J.D. Vance. And J.D. Vance is a very, very strong debater indeed. You need to do that to try to hold things together in this election because it's the vice presidential candidate that you're really going to rely on to do that. And you're also going to need to do that because quite clearly, whoever is going to be picked as the vice president now is going to be their choice, their most likely choice for the
Starting point is 00:21:11 presidency in 28. In other words, they need to project a image of a party that he's moving forward, forward beyond this election, looking forward to the next election beyond this one, which is 2028, because this election, I think most people know, except is all but lost. So I think this is what they need to do. Now, whether they'll be able to do that is another matter. Bear in mind that we've already talked about the fictional battle taking place within the party. It's entirely plausible, for example, that with Kamala Harris now, definitely certain to be the party's nominee, there's going to be a battle between the Clintons and the Obama-Iths as to who is going to be Kamala Harris is running, mate. And of course, how does that play out? you've got all of these various names
Starting point is 00:22:16 that people are coming up with Newsom, Pritzker and Brecht and whoever Buttigieg I've seen some people say you've got you've got you've got to think you've got to think this through very
Starting point is 00:22:31 carefully and I'm not sure that the Democrats have or have the ability to do so this could I mean this is already a car crash I mean it could become not just car crash, but a pile up. It's not managed well. And so far, the Democrats haven't managed things at all well. Yeah. So let's wrap up the video and talk about the geopolitical situation, because this is a
Starting point is 00:23:03 car crash for the Democrat Party. It's a car crash for the United States, because you have, as you rightly said, you have a president who everyone, now knows is is not cognitively there to to run the country. And you have his vice president as the, as the candidate for 2024. And she's tied to the president who cannot run the country. It's this is a completely bizarre situation. They have to get rid of Biden. They have to distance themselves from Biden right away, memory hole Biden, get distance from Biden, and just tell the mainstream media not to talk about Joe Biden anymore. Don't talk about him. Forget about him. And that way, they can create some distance and maybe position Kamala as the incumbent going up
Starting point is 00:23:58 against Trump and eventually, as you said, position the Democrat Party for something bigger and better in the future. Kamala Harris, if she doesn't win, just a quick thought. We talked about this a video about a week ago. Even if she doesn't win, my sense is that she'll be okay with that. She'll have, she'll have made history, first woman president of the United States, and she'll get all the perks of being an ex-president. So that brings us, and we talked about this in a video a week ago, a week and a half ago. So that brings us to the geopolitical situation. They're looking at the United States there, we're talking about all the countries in the world, the collective west, the European Union, China, Russia, India, Brazil, they're looking at the
Starting point is 00:24:47 United States, and they have got to be saying, what is going on here? Who is running things? Who is in charge of the nukes? Who's in charge of the military? Who's in charge of foreign policy? There's a couple of wars that the U.S. is bogged down in. They're in a proxy war in Ukraine. they're effectively in a proxy war in the Middle East. They're ramping up a war against Iran. They're ramping up a war against China. What is going on is what I think many countries in the world are saying. The European Union must be horrified at what they're seeing because they bet it all.
Starting point is 00:25:26 They bet their entire countries. They bet their entire economies. They bet it all on Joe Biden. Biden, and they even followed Biden into a proxy war against Russia. That's how much trust they had in Joe Biden, the European Union. Let's discuss the geopolitical situation. Well, let's start with the Europeans. There's a fascinating article in today's Financial Times, and I'll just read the title of it. Isolated Germany fears a second Trump term. Isolated Germany. And the point is that, you know, the Europeans, the European centre is disintegrating within Europe itself. And it talks about the fact that Germany's government
Starting point is 00:26:11 is weak, that more and more countries within the European Union are becoming fractious and are rebelling against the policies that the EU centre, Ursula von der Leyen, backed by Germany, the current German government has been following. France is in chaos. Jean-Luc Melanchon, who is the leader of the left and the man who wants to be prime minister, says that France should leave NATO. He's just made a statement of that effect, which is absolutely not what the Germans want to see France do for obvious reasons. So there is a huge worry and uncertainty in Europe about the situation.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And they will want Kamala Harris to take over it, because given how deeply committed they are to project Ukraine, to the globalist project, to the neoliberal project of all of these things, how nervous they are about the tariffs that Trump is talking about, and Vance is talking about. They want a strong democratic party. Ideally, they would want to see the current administration reelected in some form in November. But if they can't get that, they would prefer to see the party in a position where it is still strong after November, still has strong positions in Congress, can withstand or resist or delay parts of the Trump vans program. And above all, they don't want a weakened, enfeebled president now, somebody who not only lacks, the cognitive abilities to run the United States, but who has no political authority to run the United States. Joe Biden is not a Lane Duck president. He, a Lane Duck president is a president who's in the
Starting point is 00:28:14 last period of his term. You know, he's, everybody knows that he's going to go. People can start to see who his successors might be. But he is still the, in effect, the president. He's still, charge of his own administration. He might not be able to get things done through Congress, but he can still do the managerial administrative tasks that a president does. Joe Biden cannot do that, and he has no authority either. And the American political class has just passed a massive vote of no confidence in him. They've told him, you are so incapable, you cannot be president again. You cannot even think of standing for the presidency again. And yet this person is still president.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So the Germans and the Europeans will also want him out. They will want somebody in the White House that they can work with over the next few months to try to insulate themselves to the extent that they can from, you know, the coming Trump, presidency. And they will also want, as I said, a strong democratic party coming out of this process in November. So the Germans, once they've got themselves sorted out and the financial times says that they're in absolute shock about what's happened, that they haven't really woken up until just, until literally now to the way things are falling apart in Washington. But once they do, the Germans will want Biden to go and they'll want Kamala Harris to take over. And where the Germans go, the rest of the
Starting point is 00:30:02 EU will follow. And so will Britain, the Britain that now is of course led by Prime Minister Kirstama. So the Europeans also will want Biden to go precisely for that reason. The rest of the world, it's completely different. If you're talking about, the Russians, the Chinese, the Indians, the other ASEAN states, they are going to say to themselves, Democratic Party is a complete train wreck. They've just carried out a coup against their own leader, who they now recognize, something we've always known all along, obviously, is incapable and doesn't know how to run things. They're putting up in his place, Somebody who is widely seen as incompetent and a political lightweight
Starting point is 00:31:02 and who does not have the authority to run the United States either and who looks like she's only going to become president as a result of the intrigues conducted by others, including by Barack Obama, who, by the way, most of us didn't like when he was president. Just saying Obama was not popular with most of the world. Anyway, they will look at this and they will say, this is a political crisis in the United States. It's going to continue at least until November and perhaps beyond.
Starting point is 00:31:40 We don't want a political crisis in the United States. We want a president we can work with. A president we can speak to over the phone, discuss things with, and who can agree or disagree with us, and make decisions that we can understand and work with. And that will point to Donald Trump. So most of the world will want Donald Trump elected. They will not, I think, care too much about who is going to be president over the next few weeks, whether it's Biden or Harris, because they will see a chaotic, disorganized
Starting point is 00:32:25 and weak administration, whichever of those two people leads it. But their preference probably would still be Harris, because at least she is compasementis in a way that we're being told and is now officially admitted. Joe Biden is not. So that I think sums up the view of most of the world. Dangerous times. Okay, we will wrap the video up.
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