The Duran Podcast - End of globalism w/ Neil McCoy-Ward (Live)

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

End of globalism w/ Neil McCoy-Ward (Live)

Okay, we are live with Alexander Mercuris in London, and we are very happy and very honored to have with us on the Duran for the first time, a big fan of this man's amazing work. Neil McCoy Ward. Neil, thank you so much for joining us on the Duran. Oh, absolute pleasure. It was a big surprise to get the invite, Alex. So thank you so much. A big shout out to Alex at Reportify, too, who, helped us set this up. So thank you very much. Alex. Before we get started on talking about

so many news topics that we need to discuss, a big shout out to everyone that's watching us on Odyssey, on Rockfin, on Rumble, on the durand.orgas.com, and YouTube as well. And thank you to our moderators, Peter. Thank you so much, Zarael, and any other moderators that jump in to help us on this live stream. I have all of the links, the YouTube channel, the Patreon, the website where you can follow Neil and his work, some of the best videos out there. So definitely check him out. I watch Neil all the time and I love his work. So Alexander, Neil, we have a lot of news to cover. So I will pass it on to you, Alexander and Neil. We have a lot of news to cover because in a kind of a sense,

we are living through a revolution, maybe, in the United States, a revolution in global affairs. That's a very strange counter-revolution, if I'd call it that, in Britain, which is taking us, well, I suppose, one would say,

you know, forward to the 1970s. It might be one description. Having lived through the 1970s, I think that's actually, I think that's unkind. to the 1970s, if I have to be honest. But anyway, no one better to discuss all of this

with the Neil McCoy Warden. Can I also endorse absolutely what Alex was saying that this is absolutely somebody you should follow and watch and listened to and learn from. So, Neil, we are about a week away. It seems like a month or a year away, but we're about a week away from the start of the Trump president.

It's like a sort of landslide has buried everything in its bath, or if you like a locomotive, is trundling relentlessly across the landscape. He's spoken to Davos, the World Economic Forum. Very interesting speech, actually. I was critical about the fact that he addressed the World Economic Forum, and then I actually read the speech, and I listened to it, and I watched this vast screen, which he was projecting it. And it was, I somewhat changed my perspectives there. We've seen an astonishing deluge of executive orders pouring out of the United States, out of the Oval Office, one after the other.

People say it's 100, but of course that must be supplemented with all kinds of other orders. We're in every day of more and more people being suspended across the federal government. The entire staff of the National Security Council, large numbers of people in the State Department, US aid being completely unpicked. We've had radical changes in approach to the US government's attitude to social media platforms. We're now told that they must not interfere in social media platforms. We've had a complete change in political language. So, you know, all the woke business is now, we're now suddenly told that which we've had to, you know, worship before is all nonsense.

And it's all, you know, that that particular set of idols has just been knocked over in the most unceremonious way. And it's astonishing how calmly people are accepting that. And it looks as if a fundamental shift in the world in which the world economic landscape is going to be conducted. So we're not having talk about tariffs and a complete change in the US government's economic approach. So all of that is going on. And in the meantime, the Europeans are left in the dust. They don't seem to know quite what's hit, what's hit them. Their foreign policy is all over the place.

They're sometimes clinging on to wishful thinking in one or two places. Their technological ambitions, which we're going to turn about, I talked about shortly are, you know, they've just bitten the dust, it seems to me, It's become clear that in AI, not just America is ahead of them, but China too, and even more so in an even more embarrassing way. So all of this is going on. And in Britain, by contrast, we have the same old things, you know, put the taxes up a bit here, borrow a bit more there, carry on doing what you've been doing, no real attempt to grasp the change. and as for a growth strategy, the chancellor and the prime minister talk about it all the time, my own views, you can forget it.

Anyway, those are my general thoughts about the state of the world today. What have you to say, Neil, and then let's take it on from there. I mean, just your general observations and then let's move on to some of the details. Alexander, I didn't know you were such a word smith with that. I'm like, okay, I'm holding it each question in my head, right?

Here's the next. And then you move on to the next. next thing. So I don't think I'll do quite as good at round up as you did there. But yeah, what we're what we're seeing now is we're just seeing this very, we're seeing this massive changes throughout the world. I think that's what we're seeing. And it really began with COVID, I think. It was sort of 2020 period with all the lockdowns and everything else that took place. And I think this was the sort of start of the breakdown of globalization that we, that we've, we've seen at the moment everyone's putting it down to um trump and uh and china and the tariffs there

and things like that yeah part of it but a lot of it as well was things that was nothing to do with with trump and nothing to do with china when you lock down the world and you just start paying everyone even though there's no productivity and you're printing the money right you're going to start to have inflation that's for all of your viewers that's where the inflation came from from it wasn't greedy workers and everything else that they talked about. So we already started to see all these supply chain breakdowns. That was that was the start of it then when you have all these supply chain breakdowns. And then we moved from the supply chain breakdowns into this sort of what's, what I think it was Fox News that called it,

the selfish era or something like that, which made me laugh a little bit where they talked about how all these countries were starting to not export and things like that. It was an interesting piece they did because CNN did the polar opposite, of course, two sides of the same coin. But that's what we really started to see. And I think we're going to see a lot more as we move forward as well, especially around food. Food is one of those which we can get into in a bit as well. And we can talk about the farms. I don't know if you saw the piece. I did on the farms in the UK as well. That was interesting because I don't think before I did that research, people really understood and knew what the statistics were on the farms. So everyone was,

you know, thinking, oh, well, all the farmers are going to pay for this massive, this massive black hole in the budget. No, the farmers were, if you take a pie chart, they were like a slither like this of the whole chart and then it was mega corporations, who you just can't believe the absurdity of some of the politicians and their lack of education, but then the politicians would say, well, everyone's going to pay their fair share. These corporations are going to pay the inheritance tax too. And I'm just scratching my head going, surely they know that corporations don't pay inheritance tax. So we've had all these things going on. I mean, I think just launch into some questions

Anything that you or the viewers want to ask me, just let's just launch into some questions. Well, actually, you brought up the word globalization, and Trump has talked an awful lot about that. And it's a word that we've heard an awful lot about for the last 20, 30 years. And of course, he addressed the World Economic Forum. And he gave an anti-globalization message or so it seems to me. Is this the end of globalization? I mean, that's a big question to ask. But maybe not, and I think here we need to make a clear distinction.

We're not talking about the end of world trade, which will continue. It always will, I mean, even if we have tariffs or we don't have tariffs. But in a situation, a kind of philosophy that the world is going to not just integrate together economically, but that it has to be administered basically according to one set of rules. and by one set of people. In other words, the rules-based international order that we've been hearing so much about. Is this the end of that?

I mean, is that chapter finally ended? Yeah, I mean, there's so much to unpack there, and it is very, very complex as well. But what we're kind of seen is, if you want to call them globalists, right? Because this one always makes me laugh, because you say the word globalists, Some people see it as Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum, right? Or some of those sort of those sort of people.

Other people, there's things like people say that, you know, there's globalists and they're lizard people and they're, you know, it's a very, it's a long stretch with some of this stuff when you talk about it. So I'm just going to talk about it from the sort of logical, rational who these people are that we see on a day by day basis, right? Who are they? It's people like the World Economic Forum, it's people at the United Nations, it's the three-letter organizations, the WHO, the WTO, etc. These are the sort of people who are running the show. They heavily unelected officials, they dictate a lot of policy. You have all of the cities now, with the mega-cities that are planned and the mayors who dictate their own policies and overruled the laws of the land and other things like that. So are we really seen an end of that? Yes and no.

What we're seeing is they take two steps forward and then they get taken back a step. And this has been going on for decades. You can go right back to the 1950s, 1960s, and you can see this pattern. So they're taking two steps forward. They get taken a step back. So what we're seeing right now is that they took about 10 steps forward since 2019. And now they're going to, again taken back maybe about three steps. So they're really pushing ahead and we can give examples, a lot of examples of that, but you look at a lot of the freedoms that we lost in the last few years. These were emergency powers, as they were called. Canada's a great example of this under Trudeau, all these emergency powers that were enacted. And then you can just do what I do sometimes.

I just look it up and say, I wonder how many of these were actually given back. And you'll be surprised, most of them are not given back. So these emergency powers, they changed the rules, they changed the laws, and they never change it back, and people don't realize. It's similar with, if you think about when I talked about the bailings, which was quite an interesting one that people had never heard of before this new bank bailing law. Again, that was a globalist policy if you want to use that definition. It was a policy that came down and it went right through the G20. It went through all of the banks, in fact, almost all of the banks right across the G20, bail-in-law, where in the next time, because there was such a massive backlash from the bailouts. And Alex, you'll know about these from your country and also a couple of others, Greece and things.

There's such a massive, massive backlash to what happened with those bailouts, that they changed the rules for the future. And they said, well, next time we'll do bail-ins with anyone that has over the insurance threshold. Right. I mean, these are sort of policies that come down. And people don't really notice or they don't even know about. I'll give this as an example to so that people online. go into your bank and just say, hi, could you tell me a little bit about bail in law and how this

affects me? You can go all the way up to the manager of the bank and their eyes will just be glazed over. They don't know anything about this stuff. So there's a lot of things that, and it isn't a criticism, but the average person just doesn't know this stuff. How would they? We all go about our day-to-day lives. We focus on the same things. And this is one of the things is the tactics as well, which is division. So what they're trying to do is divide us, as opposed to, you know, unite us. So there's all these division tactics. And you see it all the time. And it's interesting as well, because you'll have it with your subscribers. I have it with my subscribers where a new thing happens. And then we, you know, we have to take a view on that,

and we have to apply logic, common sense, and rational reasoning. And we look at it. And we look at and we give our view. We say what we think. You know, it's never 100% guaranteed, but we say what we think. But then there'll be certain subscribers who will look at that, and they won't agree.

And it's a form of division. So we're seeing this. It's like constant, constant, constant division. And at the same time, it's under the illusion of unity. So this is what they're saying. It's like, we're all in this to get, and they have all these catch.

We're all in this together. You know, if one of us X, then all of us X. There's like three or four of these catchphrases that they all use. But behind the scenes, they're actually using division tactics. Or if you don't align with, you know, the view that we're putting out there in the world, then there's something wrong with you. And you know what happened in July in the UK with all of the protests, which is what I call them, because it was 1990.

0.9% protest and 0.1% riots. But of course they call them all riots and everyone was far right, extremists and, you know, all this sort of stuff. It's deliberate division tactics. Well, absolutely. If we talk about the so-called riots of the summer, because, I mean, you're absolutely right. And I mean, I think a point I've made before, anybody who knows about England and summer knows that there is always a certain amount of disturbance takes place in the summer in English cities. And I don't even know that it was more than, that there was any more of that last summer than the usually is.

Just saying, but what it was used for immediately was a revolutionary change in the way in which the administration of justice is conducted, which is something I know a bit about, in the sense that you had basically assembly line cases, one after the other, move through the system, at absolutely like warp speed in ways that actually defeat the whole concept of the administration of justice, which is supposed to be careful and deliberate. All of this be conducted in an atmosphere of, you know, incredible political pressure

with the government itself doing everything it possibly could to inflame the situation as far as I could see. by making it look as if something very, very big and very, very bad was actually happening when it wasn't. And that I think goes directly back to your point about normalisation, normalising, you know, ultimately radical and totally new. And in some ways, very, very authoritarian things. Baylands, you're absolutely right. The laws there have all been enacted. They're all in place. They can be activated at any time.

The pandemic restrictions. There's never been any walkback on the decisions to carry out those restrictions. The whole machinery to do that remains in place. But asking all of this, one does get the sense that despite the fact that, as you rightly say, people don't perhaps have a handle on all of the details. they do sense that something has been happening and they are pushing back against it. They push back against it in Britain

and you could argue that Reform UK in its rise is a reflection of that. Whether it will ever deliver on any of that is another question but people are voting for it partly for that reason. And if we're talking about Trump and what's happened in the United States, here I don't think there is any doubt at all, it seems to me that there is undoubtedly an anti-establishment libertarian streak in an awful

of what is going on and which Trump, one way or the other, seems to be articulating. I mean, what would you say to this? Yeah, yeah, that's a really great point. And I think let's step this back a little bit because if you look at what's happening in the UK, I just did a video, I think it was last week, which I was amazed. It was just a normal live stream. So over 600,000 views, which you guys know, that's rare to get a live stream hit that sort of numbers. Why?

Because it covered things that people don't know. And that's that people are leaving every minute or 1.3 people are leaving the UK every minute. And these are, these people are taking their money with them. They're taking their skills. They're taking their family with them. And the average person doesn't realize what this means. It's the same as the millionaire class who are leaving the country. Okay, the wealthy are fleeing the country at a rapid rate.

Why? And then actually let's link this to the decisions around last July, which I think were they were the wrong decisions, but actually they're going to, I think, will be positive for the country going forward. because Stama was so crazy in how he dealt with a situation that even people who are on the fence, they're sort of wave in between, is this true? Is this not true?

Or I don't know, is the news right that my neighbor, old Betty, the 70-year-old down there that took her flag out, she's a far right extremist. Even those people, they went to the side because they said, actually, this doesn't make sense. So you've got this person here who's committed an actual crime for XYZ. I know we're on YouTube, I won't say, right? He's committed this actual serious crime and he got let off or he got a, you know,

he got something very meek as a punishment. But then this person over here did this, which is one-tenth of that, and he got a severe punishment. And what, again, the reason they do that is because, They want to set an example. It's fear tactics. It's to get the public going. Well, I better not ever go on a protest because I can be lumped in with these people and I could lose my job or I could do this or I could do that. See, these are the tactics that are going on. And what you've got now is this massive fracturing in the UK in society. And I saw this years ago. I saw it a long time ago. That's why I, well, I was in London. I lived in Milton Keynes. I lived in Coventry. And I actually went from there over to the Isle of Man, which probably 99.9% of people watching won't have a clue where that is. If we were a Joe Rogan podcast, I'd say, get it on the screen, guys right now. But it's in the UK region, show we say, but it's a separate country.

So that's where that's why. So I saw this years and years ago because what and this is what we've seen. We've seen a lot of people moving out and move. I move my businesses out because I simply, I remember the meeting very clearly that I had my accountant. And he, I said, these figures can't be, can't be right. And he said, they're right. You've basically paid when you take into account the companies,

your personal income, national insurance, and all the other things that we pay. We said you've basically paid over 70% in tax. And I just couldn't believe it. And now I pay about 20% in tax. Just over it is 20 something percent. And I actually, people laugh because I say, I'm very happy to pay that. I'm very happy to pay those taxes because it goes towards the upkeep and everything runs smoothly.

But what we're seeing in the UK is the opposite. You're seeing triple the amount of taxes there. And you've got all this money. And you've got huge amounts of wealth. And the facilities are just drained. They're getting drained, drain, drain, drain. They're getting worse on a day by day basis. You think if you had something right now, you were a bit concerned.

You wanted to go and see a doctor or you needed a scan or something like that. I would say good luck to everybody watching if you're in the K because it's a nightmare. I get emails all the time from subscribers telling me the most wild crazy stories you can imagine. Now, I live half the year there. I live half the year here in Bangkok. And if I, and I do need to go to see a doctor, I don't even have to an appointment. And this is the same in a lot of countries, by the way. You can just walk in.

You get an appointment really quickly. You can see your doctor. And it might cost you anywhere from 10 to 30 pounds. right and you might have an hour or two of services i mean this is the this is the difference that we're seeing and you got to ask well what's the what is it that's causing even though we're paying huge amounts of money into the UK system that there's no facilities there's no services and yet you can go somewhere else and you can pay such a small amount and getting an amazing service like this is where people's brain should start saying what is that what's what's going on there and it sort of opens the door

to a lot of rabbit holes when you start looking down as to where all this money goes to and what's actually happening. And a lot of this in politics is just revolving doors. You know, people got all excited, oh, conservatives, and then they get, oh, the Labor Party, here they go. I actually have a friend who told me he voted for Labor, and I said, really, really, you voted on labor.

He said, yeah, yeah. And I said, oh, I'm just curious why, why did you do that and he said well um i couldn't get and he gave an example about school place he couldn't get a school place and his wife couldn't get a hospital stuff for what they needed i think he was with children or something they couldn't get any of this stuff and he said but i was told by uh you know a counselor a labor counselor that they're going to and that when labor coming they're going to do all this stuff and i said okay okay that's that's interesting and uh is that happening now he's like well not yet but you know you've got to give him a few months and it's like it's just

revolving doors you get all these promises but you've got to look at the money if you follow the money you'll understand where everything's going so this is one of the issues we're seeing we're seeing this this fragmentation now in society and I think what starma did last year has just lit a fuse It's just this fuse now for even more fracturing. And people are angry. You're having different communities fighting with one another. Now you're seeing there's a lot of issues. But let me pause there so we can, in case there's anything else you want to jump in with.

Well, I would ask, I mean, you say follow the money. Where does the money take us? because I mean, you've basically supposed the question yourself. I mean, what is the underlying problem in Britain? By the way, I agree with every part of your analysis. It's just the level of services in Britain has collapsed. So it's been slowly sagging ever since the Blair era and arguably even beyond, but it's now completely disintegrated.

Taxes have been steadily rising ever since the major era. and now they're incredibly high. And even as that happens, we see that we see that debt to GDP ratios are exploding. So what has happened? Was it the cost of the bailouts in 2008? Was it the pandemic costs? Was it both of those things together? Was it other things?

Why are we, why have we not been told frankly what this is all about? What is going on in Britain that has brought us to this particular situation? Because I think it's going to the heart of the whole discussion, by the way. Yeah, yeah. And again, it's extremely complex. But let me talk on different points and we'll sort of wrap it together here. So you think about, let's start with the basics then. So we pay our taxes.

You will pay your tax on your basic tax rate or your middle or your higher tax rate. Okay, you'll also pay your national insurance. Well, is that all going to the NHS? People think all the national insurance goes, no, no, it doesn't. Where do the basic taxes go that you pay? Well, they all go into this big pot. And by the way, all these green taxes they keep talking about, did you know that they don't actually go into a green taxes pot?

This is one to look into as well. So all these green taxes and the carbon taxes and the aircraft taxes, They say that this all goes into this big green carbon, whatever they call it, pot for reducing climate change. And all these are the stuff that they come out with. Well, I looked into that as well. And guess what? All of those, bar about 3%, actually goes into the government's general taxation fund. So this is even worse now.

There's even more money going in. And this money is just disappearing. It's disappearing. You look at the, here's another one to look into is the U-LES in London. Where does that money go to? No one really knows. Before you, can you just explain to people what U-Lose is? Because this is, yeah.

Yeah, so the U-LES is the London Clean Air Initiative. We did a really good investment. We actually never posted this video, but we probably should next year. we did a really interesting investigation into the ULAS. It's this zone in London. It was supposed to be just a very small zone where it was clean air and all the other stuff. I mean, don't ask Sadiq Khan what happens

if the wind blows in the clean air zone. But, you know, it's this clean air zone. And then they said, well, you know, we might extend it. So they extended it and all this stuff. But when you drive your vehicle through there, you have to pay a fee if it's not an electric vehicle. And we all knew what would happen.

Well, a year later, two years later, everyone will have electric vehicles. They're not going to get the money anymore. So what will they do? They'll then say, oh, every vehicle now needs to pay this so that we can keep the air clean. And that's exactly what they're doing now. So all these people have swapped onto the electric vehicles. And now they want to do, they want to continue this penalty on even for electric vehicles. And the other problem you're going to see in the UK is,

fuel duty, massive problems, because when you go to the pump for the average person and you grab your petrol or your diesel and you fill up, what you're paying there is only a very small fraction is for the fuel. The rest is fuel duty. And then do you know what the government does? they put VAT value or no value added tax onto the top of the fuel duty, which is 20%. So you've got all this fuel duty. They put tax on top of the tax, and then you're paying for your slither of fuel. So this is another problem that hasn't hit yet, but you're going to see this happening in the future. All the electric cars, all the EVs coming in, they're not going to be using these the petrol and the diesel anymore. So they're not going to be paying the duties, which is going to

leave a massive black hole for the government, which even though they say it goes on roads and infrastructure and all that, again, it doesn't. It goes into a big, big pot. And then you look at where all this money is going. And it's somewhat of a mystery. You can do some Freedom of Information Act requests, but you never really get to the bottom of where it goes. The money just sort of, you get to a certain level and you can't get any further down. You can't see where the money actually goes to. And that's the mystery of it. It's a little bit, and some people said before, well, it's probably like the Federal Reserve where I did the report on that and, you know, explained how that all works and it's shareholders. It's not federal and it's not a reserve,

etc. But Bank of England doesn't operate quite like the Federal Reserve. It's somewhat different in nature. So we can't even look at that and say, well, it's these shareholders of the Bank of England because it doesn't work like that. And looping back to another thing you were talking about, we actually almost had a couple of years back a complete collapse of the UK financial system. It was saved at the very last minute by the governor, Andrew Bailey, and saved, I use that word loosely. I mean, I wouldn't class him as a hero here. What he did was he actually, because of the bonds, the bonds were just crashing. What he actually did was he just did a massive money print and just massive dump and stopped

the pension funds from collapsing. So it was a sort of bold strategy that he did. It sort of paid off. But again, we're seeing the inflation of that now. And Stam and some of the others come out and they say, oh, this inflation is from all these greedy employees asking for higher wages. No, the government with the central banks, and it's the same around the world, they enacted all of these policies, which was paying people without production, doesn't work, and then you get inflation. I mean, this is just basics,

one-on-one, so that's really what one has taken place. That was the result of a lot of the inflation. But now we're still seeing inflation, because part of it's, become entrenched and they're really struggling, especially with the supply chain breakdowns that took place. And suppliers are shifting. We're seeing even globally, we're seeing these shifts. We're seeing nations going across to the BRICS alliance. That's a big one. We're seeing. The BRICS alliance is growing more powerful every single day. We're seeing some of the biggest power players in the world like China growing every single day as well, making monumental moves and I think this is only going to continue we're still seeing this power

play the African continent at the moment but I feel as though bricks is winning there I really feel as they're winning now under Trump is it going to change perhaps if he sends envoys and things like that and make some good offers you could shift but China's very I mean I remember as a soldier being in being Africa gosh we're probably going to 15 to 20 years and you just saw you just saw a Chinese I don't even know what you call them what engineers or or something just walking around they just have they'd just be digging holes and putting rods in the ground don't ask me what they were doing I have no idea but I'd see them all over the place going driving to a mountain in a white four by four and doing something at the mountain I mean

this has been going on for a long long time yeah I mean this is I'm glad you brought us back to the US because what you've described, you've described very, very accurately, by the way, the situation in Britain. And for the record, I'm quite sure that if you asked Rachel Reeves, where does all the money go? She wouldn't be able to tell you. I mean, the politicians are absolutely not in control of this. Rishi Sunak wasn't in control.

Rachel Reeves certainly is not in control. Stama hasn't a clue. And I think that's the thing, the first thing to say. But you've described the situation in Britain. In America, sometimes one gets the sense that they have a bit more agency there and a bit more control. But in a kind of a sense, this has not been a issue for us until recently, because the Americans have been.

basically following very closely the same sort of policies and the same sort of lines that we've had in Europe and in Britain as well which has led us to the point that you are they now seem to be preparing to go quite differently they are talking about a more nationalist foreign policy a more nationalist economic policy they're talking about you have Musk talking about cutting true trillion dollars of the US budget whether he'll be able to, of course, is a completely different question. But at least he's talking in that way. Do you think this will be listened to?

This will be, you know, people in Europe will start to say, Britain will start to say, well, why don't we do something like that here as well? Why don't we actually do a proper audit of what the British government spends its money on, for example? I mean, do you think there's anything like that at all likely to happen? or are we just going to continue as we are, even as the world changes all around us, the Chinese doing their thing, the Americans doing their thing,

other people, the Indians, the Russians, whoever, also doing their thing. But we just go on collecting taxes and spending the money that comes from them in all kinds of mysterious ways that no one can explain. What do you think is going to have? Yeah, yeah. So we can tie these points in it.

Because as we are, seeing as we're seeing at the moment all of the how's the best way to put this yeah let me let me tie this with these two with these two points so so what we're actually seeing is these nationalistic movements and we've seen a quite quite recent one i'd say it's the afd in germany yeah so that's quite a that's quite a recent one afd in germany these nationalistic movements We've seen these in different parts of Europe. And we've seen this 100 years ago. We kind of go in these cycles.

We go from this sort of pendulum swing. And we can look at this economically as well, not just politically. But you see these pendulum swings. So we have arguably in the last however many years you want to say, we've swung right over to the Western world where we've had everything. We've had the benefit of our forefathers before us. We've had all these, we've got great education, we've got great financial systems in some regards, not in all regards, but in some regards, we've got a higher standard of living, etc.

But now what we're starting to see is this pendulum swinging towards the east. We're seeing a massive development. And a lot of that is mindset. I remember, and again, we're probably going back 15 to 20 years here. It could be longer. But I met someone who was from Poland and really nice girl and I said, wow, you're so motivated and dedicated and you're always reading and studying personal development and everything else. Why is that? Because I noticed those patterns that some of the other Polish people were doing it. And she said to me, well, the reason why is because if you think of

the history and the Iron Curtain and what my parents and my grandparents and my grandparents, went through, you know, didn't really have the opportunities for personal growth. We didn't have the opportunities to better ourselves and things like that as a society. Now we've got these opportunities. So I'm, so me and a lot of other people are taking advantage of these opportunities. And we want the absolute best we can for ourselves, for the community, society, for our children, etc. And I really got that. I never forgot that lesson.

because when I travel throughout Asia, this is what I see as well. I'm seeing this collectivity. And whenever I talk about China, I always have to pre-frame it beforehand because there's this sort of cognitive dissidents around the word China. Just saying that word will react to certain people. They'll just, you know, they're going to a meltdown mode, if you even mention the word China. But even with China, when I went there for a few days,

one thing that struck me was the unity. Now, you could say, well, Neil, the unity is because of the government and what they do to their people and whatever. I mean, pulling that to the side, I'm just looking on it purely based on the fact that I'm seeing the unity. I'm not investigating the reason for the unity and the politics and what's going on. I'm just looking at the nitty gritty. So what we're seeing is this unity. you go to Thailand, you go to these other countries, Indonesia and Vietnam, and what are you seeing? We're seeing this unity, whether it's good or bad based on the politics is irrelevant to the point.

And the point is that people are moving forward together. And that's why we're seeing this breakneck speed in certain countries, but we're not seeing it in other countries. So what, coming back to your point on Trump, what we're seeing at the moment in the United States is Trump is trying to, I don't feel as though he's trying to unite the left and the right, but I feel as though he's trying to unite, unite the right and the centralists. And he's saying, okay, look, I've been voted in, I've been voted in on these policies, I'm going to do these policies. I don't really think he cares about what the left thinks. even all the news you're seeing, you know, I saw, I was reading CNN saying he's a dictator. They actually use that word. He's a dictator, right? I don't really think he cares. I think he's just

getting on with it. And the people voted him in to do these things. Now, is that enough to counteract what we're seeing in East? Maybe, maybe. I'm on the fence. And some people are way over the fence. They say, no, the East is going to conquer the West so fast because there's billions of people. Well, it isn't just about the people. You could have a million farmers and you could have 100 people that you take from the US and you put them in a chess camp for, I'm just making up a random story here by the way, I've top of my head, but you put me in a random chess camp for a year and then you say, right, we've got these 100 million farmers here and we're going to put them against your 100 chess people that you put into a check. It doesn't make any difference. The 100 million farms

are not going to beat the 100 people who are great at chess and they've been studying it for a year if these 100 million farmers have never played chess. So what we're seeing is it's not really based on the numbers. The numbers have to be united and focused on a specific task in order to achieve X, Y, and Z. So that is the distinction that everyone's missing when they talk about the numbers. It's not just about numbers, it's about being trained on actually doing what is required to win.

Now, on the opposite side in the West, we've got a lot of mental health issues at the moment. We've never had more people on disabilities and things like that. So there's also that, there's that challenge. But I think that all these things can be overcome. In fact, we won't even get into all of that because that's a whole hour-long talk in itself when you start breaking all that. But if I don't talk, go ahead, Alexander. No, I think you're absolutely right.

I mean, one of the things is that we come up with ideas and programs like Kirstama talks about making Britain the great AI superpower of the future. But when you actually ask how is he going to do it, what is he going to do, how does he motivate people, what kind of clusters of companies is he going to organize, what kind of infrastructure is he going to create to do anything like that, you come up against the same problem again and again and again in Britain, in Europe, in the Biden period of the United States. The Biden, the Biden administration, in fairness to them, were constantly coming up with these things, that they were going to make the US a great chips superpower. They were going to repatriate all the chips industries to the United States. And it didn't happen, not in anything like

the way they said. Because they don't have that ability to motivate or organize or manage people in a way that requires you to do in order to get those kind of things done. If you go to the European Union, by the way, they are the absolute classics of this. I mean, every couple of years, they come up with new plans for all kinds of things. I've been reading EU plans and documents

since the early 1990s. And when I asked people, you know, was such and such a plan from 1993 ever realized. And, you know, they ask you what do you mean? Because they exist for a while. They just disappear. Now, in China, it is different. I mean, they do have plans.

They had plans, for example, about electric vehicles. Put aside whatever you make your feelings about electric vehicles. Apparently, the Chinese leadership decided that China needed to go and develop electric vehicles. and we see that they were able to do it. With AI technologies, we've now just had a dramatic illustration of how quickly they've been able to develop AI technologies in a way that has shocked the United States

and the stock markets there. But they do have that ability to do those things. Now, once upon a time, the Americans did. I can remember that. I mean, you know, that they had that ability to get things done. Whether they will rediscovery is another matter. But I get the sense that in Britain, we don't even understand that we need to try and develop this kind of, that kind of skill set that you've just talked about. Things don't happen of themselves. There's no such thing in human society is spontaneous combustion.

It's just so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think they've just announced some sort of new build, right? Through an, some, what is it, a chip factory? I haven't actually read up on it yet. Ashtalma's just announced some new project I saw the other day. And I just think you're too late.

Even if, I don't know if it, what these building, but something, these massive factories, They take years and the more advanced, the longer it's going to take. By the time you've built it, the technology is going to move down. Have you built the right thing? Or are you building based on five years in the future when it's going to be finished? You build it based on now, because we see this a lot with government projects. They build, they set out everything. They say, right, let's get to, let's get built it.

And then by the time it's finished, it's either obsolete, it's old-fashioned, doesn't work, properly, it's over budget. This is one of the other issues. Now, when it comes to the US, will they get that sort of energy and drive back? I think they probably will. I'm fairly confident they will, but they've got to be united under a strong leader and they've got to be motivated and you've got to give them incentives. People, it doesn't matter. I mean, I've had this argument, so many times. I'm never changing my point on it. People work based on incentives.

That is how things move forward. That is what capitalism is. Capitalism is not perfect, but it's delivered the standard of living we have today. It's also delivered a weaker standard of living for some people around the world. I've got to throw that in there as well. When you've been doing this a while,

you have to pre-frame almost everything you say or you get sort of someone takes a snippet and they and they put it out context right but but this is this is the point capitalism has moved us forward and i think if you can motivate people and we're already seeing these incentives coming in we'll probably see some sort of tax breaks and and other things but you've got to motivate people you've got to give them a reason to actually go out there and create go out there and do things and you've got to give them the freedom One of the biggest problems I see with the US is the crazy amount of regulations. I could tell you some wild stories about challenges that my wife and I had when we lived in California a long way back.

You try and open any sort of physical business there. Forget about it. It takes years, years. You know, you try and open it something. and a friend of us tried to open a cafe. I cannot tell you how long this took. And she finally thought it was ready to open. And then the inspector comes and says,

oh, I need to check the size, the diameter of your pipe, right? This water pipe for washing, for customers washing their hands. A true story. And she says, oh, when it's sealed under the, you know, the tiles, and we've just spent probably many thousands doing the tiles. He said, well, I can't sign you off until I see this pipe. She had to get the guy, the contractor, take all these tiles. He wanted to see the whole thing.

He wasn't happy. Just, you know, oh, just cut this. And no, need to see the whole thing. Okay. And then someone else comes. Well, can I see this? Can I see that? I mean, this story, it was like a comedy sketch,

went on for months and months and months. Took her six months before she could finally, after she was ready to open, finally open the door. And this is the problem. It's regulations, regulations, regulations. It creates more layers of bureaucracy. It creates more layers of costs. And this is another place that money disappears to. It's with all these levels of costs. And you have a lot of people hiding as well in these jobs where they're not really doing anything. And they're just sat around and they're, you know, clicking buttons or they're, you know, signing forms or something. There's not really anything going on. It's not adding to, productivity, it's not really adding to the society, it's actually detracting from value growth. And this is another problem that we've got in in the West. Europe as well is getting terrible for it. But let me jump back to you, go ahead. Well, just briefly to say that you're quite right about Europe.

I mean, they even brag about the fact that they're the regulatory superpower. This is the thing that they're best proud of actually. And seriously, they are. I mean, my niece used to work within the EU system. She was telling me about that this is the thing that they're proud of, how many more regulations they can produce every month and every year and every day, in fact. But I think, Neil, we've got a really good overview. And we've been speaking well and very, very, very interestingly.

What I'm going to actually suggest is this is, I think, a good moment. for me to hand over to Alex. He's probably got some questions. And we can take it from there. Now, I'm hoping we will be doing more programs again. And one issue that is particularly interesting and important to me, for example, is that of the farming community in Britain. As people will know who follow my programs,

I am or have been a very keen walker, for example. So the state of the countryside and who actually manages the country's, countryside and manages it well has been a very important thing for me. And you're absolutely correct in what you said about what's happened to farmers. It's something I'd like to return to. But I think it's a detailed issue and I think today was a rather more broad scope program. So this is where I'm going to stop. So we'll come back and we'll talk about things like that in more detail in future programs. So if you don't mind, over to Alex. And as I see, you'll no doubt have some questions.

Yes. You have about 10 minutes, Neil, to go over some questions? Yeah, yeah. I put aside plenty of time for you guys. I wasn't sure, Alex, if you were just there as the sort of handsome guy that just sits there and watches me and Alexander talk or... I'll ask the questions from the audience. I'm the moderator in all of this.

All right. I know how this goes with questions. Yes, we have some good questions. We have some good questions. From Winston Fahrenheit, what does Neil think about millionaires leaving the UK and the number of high value properties of the market? The UK housing market is long overdue for a collapse. Well, yes, yes and no.

So the reason that I don't see a collapse in the UK housing market right now is because there is a massive shortage of housing. You see, there's six metrics that cause a housing market crash. One of them, and it's usually the last to go, is the supply. So what we're seeing, I haven't even talked about housing market crashes in probably four years, so it's funny how this is so fresh on my mind. But what we actually see is supply, and this is one of the biggest things to watch. and we're not seeing collapsing. We're not seeing, how can I put this? There isn't enough supply in the housing market. I think that's the easiest way to say it. So you've got a lot of people coming in and there's just not enough housing. This is why you're seeing, you've even seen the home office,

you're seeing councils taking on more properties and their budgets are getting stretched because they're housing more and more people. This is another problem in the UK that the housing lists are actually growing, even though they say they're shrinking, and that's magic numbers. That's Office of National Statistics for you. They're very good at this.

But this is one of the reasons. And people will tell you, especially in the spring and summer, which is the peak period of the rental market, you can be competing with 10, 20 other people for a single house. That is the reality of the UK market. now. Why? Because they're not building enough. And this is what makes me laugh about their protectionist measures as well for Greenbelt. See, I don't think we should ever build heavily on Greenbelt land.

So I'm similar to Alexander. I stand with you, you know, with that sort of view there. But there's so much brown belt, there's so much land that's just derelict. all you need is bulldozers. Take the bulldozers in, clear it, and then build something there, right? And you get a lot more housing. But they don't. They just start talking about, oh, floodplanes, green belt and all the other stuff. It's mad.

It's crazy. And again, it's bureaucrats who, they're not developers. They don't really think. See, I've actually owned a letting agency for properties. I've owned the state agency. I did consultancy. I've done, I was a landlord in the UK. I had a very large rental portfolio in the UK. So I've been through this whole system. I've worked with local councils in the UK as well.

So I know how it all works. And they're not really, they don't really care that much. They're just sort of, and a lot of them don't like the job. They don't like the job at all. I know we're talking about the sort of housing, the low end of the housing market here, but I'll come on to the wealthier stuff. So what we've got is these millionaires who are leaving. And as they leave, they take their money with them. So that money flows. You've got a net outflow from the UK. But their employees as well might leave, especially if they take their company.

When I left the UK, I said to all of my staff, I was like, look, this is the reason I'm leaving. I want to bring you all with me. You can stay in the UK. You can come to the island. You do what it. You know, it's up to you, etc. And some came with me, some didn't. But those were jobs, the ones who came, those were jobs that left the UK,

because those people then paid tax on the island. So that's a great example of a lot of wages that left the UK, which means taxes to pay into the UK system. And you know, the statement from Stama just shocked me when he said, well, it doesn't matter all of this emigration. because we've got so much immigration. But that's ridiculous. One for one is not equal.

You can't take someone with a GDP per capita of, I know, 50,000 who leaves and say, well, this guy from, again, no criticism, you know, Rwanda or whatever has just come in. What do you do, sir? Oh, I, you know, I did this job. Okay, great. it's still not going to replace the GDP per capita of someone who was, you know, for example, with me, some of them did tech-based stuff, website-based stuff, right, etc. It's not going to replace that.

So one-for-one is not equal. It's nothing to do with race, as people always say, oh, it's racist. There's nothing to do with race. It's simple mathematics. GDP per capita is not equal for one person leaving, one person coming in. So that's the other issue. Now, the other issue in the UK is there is mass immigration coming in. The numbers are out of control.

Part of it's legal, part of it's illegal. And this is the issue. All of the people have to be housed somewhere. And that's why you had the issue with the hotels. You know, a lot of people were staying in hotels, costing the taxpayer a fortune. They wanted to get people moved, moved on. And I won't even get into the fact that you, the cruelty of taking away pensioners money for their allowances and all the other people

that lost their allowances. And yet there's hundreds of millions being spent on driving lessons for Afghanis and all the other stuff that's happening at the minute. It's shocking. It's shocking. Putting people to the front of the health service queue. Why we still don't know over people. who have been waiting for two years. It's, it's crazy. Now, when we come on to the millionaire houses

and the high net worth houses, I also thought that potentially what we could see was some of these houses dropping in value, especially in your Mayfair and Chelsea and things like that. And we have seen that, there has been some drops. But what we're also seeing is people from other countries wanting to buy into the high net worth property market in London and some other places. So it's kind of mixed at the moment. I think the highest levels of growth that people are going to see, especially investors, is in the north of the north of England, for example, places like that. That's where you're going to see the, but I've said that for 10 years now,

that that's where if you're an investor, the south, yeah, you're going to see a little bit of growth. London, I wouldn't personally, especially with the mayor. But other places in the north, there's massive demand for accommodation, massive, massive demand. And the property is still cheap and the rents haven't kept up. So it's just doing research. And next question, Alex, or I'll talk forever. Neal, where are the UK citizens moving to that are leaving the UK? What countries? What? Yeah, great, great question. So they are, they're moving. to a lot of different places. Some, you're seeing a lot of wealthy people

moving to even the Isle of Man where I live, which for some reason everyone seems to think is this tax haven. No one pays taxes there. It's like a tax dodge. Even yesterday, I was having breakfast in here. And this guy asked me where else from. I told him, he's like, oh, a tax dodger. You guys don't pay any taxes, do you?

I just couldn't believe it. he was an English guy. I said, where does this keep coming from? No, you know we have a 20% base level and then you have your whatever it is for national insurance. I don't know what it is, 14%, 15%, whatever it is. So yeah, you're paying taxes. You're just not on the 45% plus the 15% plus your 20% corporation taxes, 25%, etc. It's just, it's just not that same thing. But you're seeing people moving to Spain. They're moving to. Portugal, you're seeing Singapore, a lot are going to UAE. That's where a lot of people are going. You've seen people move to New Zealand, Australia, a lot are going to the USA as well.

Because they've got the money, they can go there. So it's very varied as to where the millionaires are going to. It's not one specific place. A lot of, and you've also got to break it down by are they still operating or are they retired? That makes a big difference as well. If they're still operating, you're going to see more moving to tax-friendly places so they can capitalize on having the lower tax rate. But also, people have got to remember

that 90% of all UK taxes are paid by the upper 50% of earners. This is something that people never run. I've got it all the time. People say, oh, Neil, you know, and no, people are very critical for different things, but they'll say, oh, you've got X amount of money. You should do X, Y, Z. You should pay this amount. And it's like, that's not how the world works. People, if you're a businessman or you're an entrepreneur, you get paid in relation to the value that you create. But if you're going to try and tax me 70% or 80% or or some countries, you know, is even higher, then what are you going to do if you're an intelligent business person, an entrepreneur? You're going to say, well, I'm not happy with this. I'm going to, I can create my goods and services anywhere. There's so many other countries that want me. I'm going to go where the people want to treat me well and where they want me. And that's,

And that's basically what people do. I don't see any people critical of that. I don't see anything wrong with that. I think that is just the way this system works. J.HW says, question, are we in the fourth turning? And if so, how bad does Neil think it will be? We're definitely. So the fourth turning is a model by Neil Howe and William Strauss.

wrote another book called Generations. They're both very, very good books, actually, and good models. Now, the fourth turning has been, in my mind, if you look at the generational cycle models, that has been one of the most accurate of all of the other models. And if you actually break that down, I think we entered the fourth turning, and people have different views and dates on this. but I think we really entered this at least a decade ago. Some people think that we entered it in 2020. I don't. I think we entered it a lot, a long way before.

Could have been as early as 2007, 2008 period. And I'd say it was as late as 2016. I don't, I don't sort of think it was the 2020 time. I think that was just, because what you have is, even within the cycles, you have these key points. And I think the whole COVID thing was just another one of those, just another one of those points, which was capitalized on very heavily,

with restrictions and mass amounts of money that just disappeared. And that actually led to massive wealth inequality as well. Huge, huge wealth inequality right throughout the world, not just in advanced Western countries. We've really seen some terrible things happening. What you don't see is the amount of people that starved in developing nations over the last few years. Because what happened with the food,

you're still producing the same amount of food, but you saw protectionist measures. So a lot of the food was not going to certain countries, and the food that went there was in a lesser, lesser quantity. So people still had to buy it, but they had to pay more to buy it. A lot of them were not working because things weren't moving. You see, there's a lot of things that we don't even hear on the news that take place. Some terrible things happen. So we are deep in the fourth turning cycle, and you've got to think of it more like, if we look at it from a warlike framework,

we are in the phase right now of this, we've sort of gone forward and then we've gone back a bit. So we're still in the 2018-2020 trade war. We've gone back to the trade war period again under Trump in the US. We've sort of stepped back into this. But we did move forward very heavily. And we've moved into the more conventional warfare. You know, Russia, Ukraine, we've seen the Middle East, we've seen all sorts of other things, which could have easily, either one of those,

could have easily gone into a major, major, major conflict warfare. Middle East easily. And I was really thinking when Syria and everything happened there, okay, this could be the sort of spark that ignites everything here. But even you look at what's happened with Russia, Ukraine, and everything going on there, It's just been pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, more weapons, more weapons, more weapons, more money.

I feel as though we were going really deep into the cycle, which was the very close to the end of the warlike cycle, or more specifically the beginning of the global warlike cycle, because you've got different cycles within. So we were almost in this final cycle, but now it's sort of pulled back. Now, whether you can credit all of that to Donald Trump, I don't know. I'm not in these meetings. I'm not sat behind the curtain.

I don't actually know what's going on behind these closed doors. But what we are seeing, I think, is a pullback from the conventional warfare aspect. Does that mean it's not going to happen in the future? No. I think we're going to have to see it. It will happen. And I always like to give the example of if you've ever watched any of, if you've ever watched any any sort of documentaries on these ancient apocalyptic sort of collapses in society, you know,

12,000 years ago, 24,000 years ago, and 40,000, you know, you start looking at these and you look at some of the accounts. What actually took place when we saw the raids in Egypt, and you're going back thousands of thousands of years, were these raids for gold and silver and possessions and all these are on the wooden canoes. No, these raids were over food. They were raiding for food. They were raiding to find places where the water was not easily drinkable and there wasn't as much danger and things like that.

That is what we were seeing. Now, how did we get to that point? What was over resources. And I'm using a very simple example there to explain a more complex. example, these resources. So you mentioned China. I'm assuming you're referring to the deep seek that just came out. Yeah, okay, so deep seek. Now, you even look at that and I was listening to the press conference where Donald Trump said, people were expecting him to sort of go, China, we're going to destroy them. He didn't say any of that.

What did he say? He said, yeah, look, they're saying this. We don't know. You know. They're saying it, but we don't know if it's true or we're looking into it. But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter because we're going to focus on what we do best, and we're going to build the best chips, we're going to build the best AI, and we're just going to do our own thing. And that's really what we're seeing, I feel at the moment, and that's the best approach. You don't want to get into this massive trade war because no one wins in a trade war. I know it's sort of promoted is, you know, one country wins over another, but it doesn't really, both countries lose in a trade war.

It's just that, yeah, in fact, it's too complex to get into all of that. But, yeah, we'll go on to the next question. Latimeros says, hi, Duran, flat tax in Russia is 13% with free education and medicine. Food for thought. Wow. That is a bad deal. It's actually been slightly revised. I mean, it was the flat tax at 13% until fairly recently,

but they have now introduced, I think, two more bans. But I think the highest rate tax is about 20%. Just that. All right, right. Let's do another question from Big Sampson. Question. How free is Europe and the UK to make its own decision? going forward economically and militarily that might not be in line with U.S. interests.

That is, I think that's something I'd have to ponder on a little to answer. But linking that to something Alexander said earlier, and that was around, will we see, you know, you mentioned reform, UK and some other things. will we see this big change? Will we see the movement that we're seeing in the US? I think, yeah, we probably will, because these things happen so quickly. It's like a barn full of hay,

and all it needs is that spark. And, yeah, we've seen these different sparks going off, and we gave the example of last summer. That was a spark. We've had all these other sparks. We've got the gangs, you know, the our gangs, we'll just say, because I know we're on YouTube. We've got this going on at the moment in the UK.

This is another spark. And each spark sort of builds upon the next. And people are starting to see all this stuff and they're like, hold on, we've got a problem. We need to, we need a solution. And even people who don't, let's just say there's people who consider themselves more libertarian. And they say, well, I don't like Reform Party. and they'll give their reasons why something they saw on the BBC or whatever.

They say, you know, I just don't like these people. What actually tends to happen historically, politically, is that those people will put aside their views and their emotional dislikes in order for the greater good and for a greater, it could be their kids, oh, I'm worried about my kids, worry about my grandkids, whatever. So I think that is what we will see. We're going to see this movement. However it happens, I can't really tell you, I don't know,

but I think we're going to see this movement in the UK, whether that's with reform, whether it's with another party. I mean, there's a few years yet till the next election. But I definitely think we're going to see something take place. I mean, you just got to read your history, and you see these, it's almost textbook, what we're seeing at the moment, for things that can occur within the next 10 years. if we want to put a time scale behind it, I think within the next 10 years, we're going to see something now.

So does the UK really, are they going to be able to just dictate their own military policy? And can Europe, independent of the US, linking it back here? No, I don't think so. I think what we're going to see now is the US is going to dictate military policy for Western nations. And we're already seeing it, you know, yeah, all of these leaders in, in throughout NATO are upset. And they're, they're upset with Trump and behind closed doors. They're probably going, that beep, beep, you know, they're probably saying all sorts of things about it. But in public, they will say, oh, yes, we're taking on board your views on GDP spend and we'll, we'll look at that, right?

They'll say things like that. the bottom line is you look at Columbia what happened just a couple of days ago or a day or two ago you look you look what happened that he you know the president of Columbia said oh we're not taking these people back on the flight and and everything else oh it's inhumane the way you've transported them there oh so hold on so fly them all the way back to the US under these inhumane conditions so that you can send your presidential jet yeah okay I believe that story It's like that was a tariff there on his products, you know, and he caved very, very quickly.

So the bottom line is it's the power. It's the purchasing power. It all comes back to money, trade, other things. So you've got all of the power, and then you've got a strong leader who is just going to do what he's going to do. He's been voted and he's been given the power. He's got the control. He's going to, and he's got the people around him who believe in the vision.

he's going to dictate to everybody else what is going to happen going forward. I just can't see anything else around that. And the UK military, I mean, even when I left, which was, gosh, a while back now, I think it was 2012 after I'd done 10 years, you know, even then, the military was shrinking quite rapidly there. And I remember they were just like merging all these units, together and there's so many of us we were like yeah we don't want to turn a merchant you know you sort of lose your identity and stuff they were

already doing this stuff then and i remember they announced this longer career model as well and there's just a lot of us and we said yeah i'm i you know i've got a recommendation for promotion here you're saying based on politics i've got to wait three years because you're rejigging everything around no no thanks i'll take a pass on that and this is the sort of thing you see. You see politics within the military as well, but it's another, another story for another time. One more question, Neil. One more, sure. We'll let you go. Quick one. Are tariffs a trade war? Are tariffs a trade war? Yes, yes. I'd say, it's a gray area, but I'd say yes, tariffs are a trade war. It's like you could say that the Columbia USA one, just a couple of

days ago. You could say it was the fastest trade war in history. Well, kind of, the contracts weren't actually signed. What Trump did was he was very clever. He was like 25% and 50% next week. Right. So that's actually what he said. So before all the contracts were even signed, Colombian president was like, okay, yeah, I give in because 30% of my exports go to the USA, whereas only 0.5% of your exports come to us. So they were going to look. really, really big. So that wasn't a trade war. It was more like a trade event, I think is the better word for that.

But yeah, tariffs are, and again, they're kind of beginning stage to more conventional wars as well. This is the other thing that you'll see with tariffs. They kind of come, and we didn't really finish this point as well, but you don't just have the economic war. and trades and tariffs and stuff but then you have conventional but you also have something which we haven't really seen on a mass scale this this will be the first time around and that is the technological aspect of it so this time we're going to see AI and even going back a long long time ago i had these sort of visions of how the next major war would would um i spent a lot of time just thinking so i come up with some crazy stuff sometimes but i just spent

a lot of time thinking, thinking, thinking as to, or if this happens, how does that connect to that and what could happen in the future? And, you know, it all sorts of puts together. But I think the next major war that we're going to have is going to be heavily dominated by artificial intelligence. I don't think you're going to see, I'm sure they've already developed these generals now. So a general of the army, and it's a sort of an AI general. So there's probably a software right now, that is studying all the top battles going back a long, long time, not just modern day battles and wars, but going right the way back and studying strategy.

They've probably got the art of war by Sun Suo coded into it. You know, there's probably a software like that. And this general, because it will be an AI software, it will have control of all the munitions and all the equipment on the battlefield, it will have in the future we'll have drone soldiers like your Atlas today, which was a DARPA project, by the way. People think it was developed for, you know, oh, to help people in the house. No, no, it was a darker project. There was a prize, something like a million pounds on that prize. And this is how they move, move projects forward. But this is probably what we'll see in

the future. It's going to be a technological war. You'll see a lot less soldiers on the, on the battlefield, a lot less pilots in fighter pilots in jets and naval crew. You're going to see all of these efficiencies coming through the military as well. And I think that's what it will look like in the future. We're already seen, I mean, you guys know better than I, the sort of equipment in Ukraine and at the moment of battlefields, drones and things like that. It's, Skynet. Everyone's saying it's sky net. It really is.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I, funny enough, never shared this story before, but when I went to California,

I actually went to SpaceX. And I went to SpaceX. It wasn't hardly anyone there, just a few of their leadership. And they were doing this, you know, practice launch, they were doing it.

It's not how you think. The launch, it's completely. It just looks like a boardroom, right? It's not like what you see on the movies with NASA, with all the, you know, all the roads. It was just like, there was hardly any stations there in a big, but the point with this story anyway,

so I don't go off track. When I walked in, the first thing that's there was a Terminator, and it said Skynet. It said something like Skynet is coming or whatever, but that was the first thing. And I said, is that not strange to anyone else? that that is right there as soon as you walk in, the terminate and the sky net and whatever.

And everyone's like, oh, I never even noticed it, really. Work here every day. Didn't even notice it. So there's a little bit of insight, the mind of you. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. All right. We will end, we will end it there with Neil McCoy,

War. Thank you, Neil so much for joining us. Thank you very much, Neil. I'm looking forward to having you again, just saying. All of Neil's information, where to follow him, is in the description box down below and I will add it as a pit comment as well. Thank you, Dale, very much. All right.

All right. Thanks. All right, Alexander. You with us? Absolutely, of course. Okay, great. Let's get to the remaining questions. We'll wrap up this live stream one sec. All right.

From Nikos. All right, Alexander. You ready? Absolutely. Always a deep breath before we get one from Nikos. All right, Nikos is the man. All right, Nico says, I saw a Jim Jatras interview with Rachel in which he was critical of you, Duran, calling you naive for thinking that Trump will end globalism.

Oh, boy. Let's see, you know I respect. It's not over yet. You know, I respect you, but I have to agree with him. At best, what we have with Trump is a delay of World War III. At worst, we'll see the start of it. Economically, Bricks isn't doing enough. They refuse to have a common currency like the Soviet,

rubble and build a block like the CW. They aren't united. Then there are the wars. Iran is in the Middle East, is in the middle of a powder kick, Iran is in the middle of a powder keg. That is the Middle East. China and India are just letting the U.S. turn Taiwan and Bangladesh into Ukraine.

Even Russia isn't doing enough. The problem with those nations is that they think they can negotiate with the West. But as I and Jim have said, you cannot negotiate with sociopaths. The West has violated Russia's red lines, and they've only struck Ukraine instead of destroying cities in the West. That's why the West continues. These people only understand force. Nations like Poland, Finland, and Estonia want war. And the media has stupefied the population.

They will go to war. World War III will happen. Europe will invade Russia because they want to. And since Russia won't go into a nuclear war, they'll take all of their stuff. In Greece, Duran, you learn that the worst outcome is the realistic outcome. The media is so powerful, the actual. idea of globalism cannot be stopped. First to fall will be Russia, then India, then China. Yeah. I think it's high time we had Jim Jatras as a guest on the Duran. We had a long,

good discussion with him about many things. I love Jim. I like Jim. I love him. I was going to say, I'm absolutely loved him. I don't know why he's criticism. And I love him. I love, you know, I have to see the video. Criticism is good. So let's, let's have. have him and let's have this discussion with him. For the record, I don't think we're being naive and I think probably there's a degree of misunderstanding here. Certainly there are lots of dragons in terms of globalization still to take on. But overall, Nikos, I simply don't think that the description of the world that you've given

is the one that I recognize. It seems to me that all the trends are in exactly the opposite direction. Here we have a situation if we're talking about the war in Ukraine where virtually everybody now accepts that the Russians are winning the war. Europe is in a mess. European militaries are in crisis. European economies are in crisis. The American economy is not in particularly good shape, despite what people say. We've recently done a program about that.

So I think that the trends are exactly the opposite direction. that you say. Now, building a global trade and financial system is not a job that is done in a day. The speed at which this has happened in terms of BRICS is remarkable. The fact that the Western media tries to ignore and won't discuss BRICS. There's a kind of policy in the British media, especially, not to talk about Briggs or even mention Bricks is a sign that they are very worried about it. Now, as for military alliances and that kind of thing, as far as I'm concerned, there is already a core military alliance in existence, which is in effect counterposes that of the West. Russia and China clearly functioned to a great extent as allies. They're both enormously powerful countries with huge armed forces.

They have nuclear weapons. They have every kind of technology that you can imagine. The Russians, as I said, are winning in Ukraine. What you say about the military balance is totally contradicted by every single military person I have spoken to. And I talk mainly to me. I talk exclusively to Western ones. they see the trends in exactly the opposite direction to the one that you see. And as the idea that the Europeans are going to be able to march on Moscow,

that is a fantastic idea. Without the Americans, they wouldn't be able to get past first base, and even with the Americans, that they wouldn't get to Moscow or anywhere close. I just want to add that if NATO, if the Europeans, if the U.S. could have defeated Russia in Ukraine, they would have done it with troops there with equipment. If the U.S. thought, if NATO thought they would have defeat, they could defeat Russia in Ukraine, they would have gone in. Exactly. But they know they couldn't. They know they can't.

and they used a proxy. Exactly. So just keep it. And it failed. And it failed. And it failed. And as far as being naive with Trump, you know,

we're seeing the Trump White House, Alexander, start to settle, settle down and settle in. And we're seeing some actions which are positive. I'm not saying all of it is positive. I agree. But we are seeing some actions that look positive.

For example, the USAID, going after the NGOs, all of that stuff. We're seeing the Russian administration. They're also talking about how they're ready and willing to talk to Trump. You know, six months ago, we weren't getting any of this. No. With the Biden White House. And I think we have to remember that. Six months ago, there was no talking, not at all.

No. That's an improvement. Just to supplement that, Glenn Dyson and myself did a program yesterday with a Hungarian, a person from a Hungarian think tank, a nationalist Hungarian think tank. And he was telling us that all the NGOs in Hungary have had their funding cut. Stop. So that's, that's a big event. Yeah, I was watching Tom Lungo the other day and he said the same thing. He's confirming that, that this is real. They're going after these NGOs.

Yeah. This whole ghastly network of agencies and NGOs and things in Georgia, in Armenia, in all of them. They've just been sliced off. And apparently a whole lot of people protested from USA, which is the core institution. And they were suspended after they did that. Instead of being, instead of being heated, they were suspended. So this is a very, very big move. And we also have, just to finish it up, Alexander, we also have the European Union is complaining that the Trump White House isn't calling them.

Yeah. They're not calling them. They're not discussing anything with them. They've completely bypassed the European Union. They're talking to member states. Yes. They haven't talked to Ursula. They haven't talked to Kayakalas.

Eventually they will. No. Yeah. But think about it. We're a week into the administration and they haven't called up the powerful, the all-powerful, Ursula and Kayakalas. It tells you everything. Exactly. Yeah.

All right. So we'll get a stream with Jim and we'll talk about it. Absolutely, definitely. All right. Big shout out to Jim. We love Jim. Jungle Jin says, how do you view the future of Australia within the sphere of influence of Trump's emerging fortress America? Will August be abandoned or doubled down?

This is a very, very good question. I cannot imagine that any United States, any, any, any, any, any, iteration of the United States is going to lose interest in Australia. I mean, it is the big English-speaking power in the Indo-Pacific region. So I sense that Orcus will continue in some form with Australia. Remember, the alliance between the United States and Australia far predates, August. So I don't think that link is going to be severed. In fact, my guess is that with the U.S. refocusing on the Indo-Pacific,

the relationship with Australia is going to become more important still. Fuzzy Ball says the war cannot end until Russia takes Mikhailiev and Odessa. As long as the Ukraine has the Black Sea Axis, Crimea will always be a target. It's possible. We'll see. I mean, at the moment, everything is very, very confused. Notice, by the way, that there's still not been a call between Putin and Trump. It looks as if the Trump people are taking their time, which I think is a good thing, by the way. Good.

Good. They need to get rid of all the old ceasefire plans and start putting something together. Exactly. They don't want to speak to Putin until they've got their ideas sorted out, and they don't have them at the moment. Just go to his speech from June. And you'll get exactly what the Russians are looking for. Yeah. Nico says, on a funnier note, Lukashenko will include.

include the Communist Party in his government. One of the funniest things Lukashenko has done is dressed up as a Kami-Stalin wannabe. What the W-T-H Lukashenko. Well, Lukashenko actually has always been very sympathetic to the Communist Party and to communist ideals. It's not widely known, but in Belarus, the November, the October Revolution is still celebrated. as a public holiday, just saying. So, I mean, he's a character. He's got his own ideas.

He's, by all accounts, by the way, a very, very capable manager. And he's clearly, you know, aligned with the Russians and all kinds of things. But, you know, he's got his own ideas. And, you know, he's somebody, one shouldn't just make assumptions about. Sham, thank you for the, for joining the Duran community. Jungle Chin says, Trump unceremoniously shafting team woke is reminiscent of Stalin unceremoniously shafting team communist family, which sought to socialize the family.

Yeah, it's true. Actually, now that you mentioned it, obviously what was going on in the Soviet Union was an altogether more extreme version than anything we've seen. Well, actually, maybe not. I don't know. But, I mean, you did get these very strange apartment buildings that we've been created in the Soviet Union in the 1920s, where everybody had to share kitchen and bathroom and other private facilities and things of that kind. Anyway, as you absolutely rightly say, Stalin came in and said enough of that. It's out.

Donald J. from USA now says Donald J. Trump, Miami, 14 hours ago, speech to GOP Congress, forging a new political majority that's shattering and replacing Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal coalition, which dominate American politics for over 100 years. That's what we're doing. Interesting speech. I'll be reading it. And the McKinley. Yeah.

And he talked about McKinley. Yeah, absolutely. And you brought up, geez, maybe two months ago, Alexander, you were the one that brought up. I remember, you said everyone should take a look at McKinley because that's who I think Trump is going to model his presidency after. And he's talking more and more. more now about McKinley. He is. USA now also says to Greenland, just saying.

Thank you for that. USA now. Elza says, Alenski has visited Kier Stormer. I think today, who is comforting whom? Who's in the bigger mess? Stomber or Elensky or Lukashenko calls him Stormer. I think you're starring Lucaschenko, man. That guy.

I think that I think despite all outward differences, Stama and Zelensky are made for each other, just so. Yeah. Eric Hatchet says,

is Trump going to see this announcement in the Rada and act accordingly and cut the cord? Love all the work you three do. You mean about mobilization, something of that kind of

I presume. Probably. I don't think it's going, I don't think it's going to affect his. Well, is Trump going to cut, he's already cut the cord to a certain extent. To a certain extent, yes. Yeah, yeah. I think we have to wait and see what Heggseth is going to do. Exactly. Exactly.

Okay. Sparky says does President Trump sense he's being deceived? So says preposterous things for public consumption on purpose in order to force an accurate feedback to come to light on particular issues? I think this is what Trump has been doing all his political career. I have to say this. Every since 2014, he comes up and he says things which many people regard as utterly outrageous. But when you sit back and wait and see how the dust settles, you see that he does it in a way that constantly moves the dial, the political dial, a bit.

further in his direction. I don't know whether he does this, whether he plans to do it or whether it's instinctive. I'd be interested to know. But this is consistently the way Trump behaves. And sometimes, as I said, he floats balloons, clearly. Other times, you need to take him a bit more seriously over Greenland. I think it's now clear you need to take him very seriously. But it's not always easy to understand Trump, but it's always important to listen very carefully to what he's saying. That has been my consistent view of Donald Trump, basically since 2016. Matthew says, Alexander, will the EU just deploy peacekeeping forces into Ukraine, regardless of what the USA says? Have the long-range missiles stopped?

No. Well, for the moment they have, by the way, Trump, before he became president, said he was vehemently opposed to this. So we'll see whether he acts on that. But for the moment, they have stopped. Now, were the Europeans going to Ukraine without the Americans? The answer is now. The book of Nook says, all Western governments are some version of the Alkopolin model of governance. This is obvious.

Sparky says, are the assembly line mass production prosecutions modern day bloody assizes? Yeah, that's a very, very good description. Well, they're not quite as bad as that, because, of course, if you're talking about the original bloody assize, the one that Judge Jeffries ran in, I think it was 1687 or 1686, well, people would be hanged at that time, and we don't have the death penalty in England. But in terms of production line justice,

the similarity certainly is that. Elsa says green taxes for the green goblin. Oh, my God. puppy says it seems like Britain still tries to play the great game to destroy Russia. Richard Poe thinks the UK elite are global puppet masters, but it seems like a conspiracy theory. I think that these people are not very bright, if I have to be honest. They are obsessed still with the idea of maintaining Britain as some kind of important player in world affairs.

And this continues to be very, very much part of their understanding. of themselves. And I think with Dr. Parvini, we talked about this last week, I think it's high time. We took a time out and started to think about ourselves and stop worrying all the time about what's going on in faraway places, which we cannot control and which don't really concern us. As Parky says, inflation can be a tax laundered through excess money printing in order to conceal it's a tax. Oh yes, absolutely. And by the way, the Bolsheviks, Lenin and Co, saw it in exactly that way. I mean, they deliberately engineered a hyperinflation in order to eliminate savings during the revolution and in order to use that in order to confiscate assets. So, you know, it can absolutely

be used in that way. And I'm not saying that in the more modern world, in the world, in the world that we have been living through. There aren't some people who perhaps perceive it in something like that sense. It's well known, for example, that inflation tends to benefit governments. Just saying. But whether people like Rachel Reeves and Kier Starrma or Macron or the others really have that kind of intelligence to think like that, I don't know. Fuzzy Ball says the largest contribution to CO2 emissions worldwide is the US military, is the US industrial complex and military bases, but Brussels will never complain hypocrisy.

Of course no. Sparky says complexity conceals. Very true. True. Very true, Sparky. Jamila says, thank you, gentlemen, for your great information. Jamila, D. D.F. says, local Cuban hospital admitted in five minutes,

plugged into an IV, tested and medicated in less than an hour for shellfish poisoning for 800 USD in Canada. I would have waited for 16 hours in the waiting room. Well, there you go. I'm not going to even stop on the amount of hours I've said to wait in hospital waiting rooms in Britain. And of course, I've had to sometimes take my children to hospital waiting rooms, these little, you know, children. And they've had to wait hours and hours and hours and hours. And you don't really want to put children through that. Just saying. Jamila says, sorry, gentlemen, I don't like environmental activists because they are living in another world and they don't care about people.

It's been a well-established fact that some, not all people who you could describe as environmental activists, have an anti-human bias. And I think that's been widely acknowledged. And I believe there's been books written about it. Peti Studies, thank you for that super sticker and fractured 01. Thank you for that. Super sticker. And from Zasham, thank you for that super sticker. Sparky says California is worse on regulations than many of the other states, although they all have their issues.

Zareel says the newest book is the fourth turning is here. That's the title. Fourth turning is here. That's the newest book. Sparky said, says when speaking of individual families, people say it takes one generation to produce wealth, a second generation to lose it. The second generation breaks even at best, and the third generation blows it all. I've seen that happen so many times and in so many places. In Greece, of course, it's almost a cliche. Yeah. Sparky says, free Greenland and Danish, free Greenland from Danish tyranny and brutal oppression, we only wish to bring them freedom and democracy.

Sparky says free Canada from the Castro regime. Jungle Jim says it took decades for computers to master chess, a completely closed system. It will take a lot longer for AI to master war. Well, probably true. I'm not going to, this. This isn't my, area of expertise. Big Surge on X, Alexander, if you go to Big Surge's account, he has a really good thread on Klauschevitz. He talks about how

there's one thing in war that you cannot master, and that's the chance, the unpredictability of it all, no matter the weapons and the technology. Interesting. I'll look at it. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good thread.

Raul Pinto says, if Trump retires income tax, then tariffs would make sense. Well, he has floated that idea, just saying. Floated it yesterday, actually, again. Yeah. Yeah, he's floating. Yeah.

Jerry Coogan says, great guest. Any chance of an interview with Steve Bannon. I'd like to hear his take on what Trump's policy should be. Is Bannon frozen out, question mark? We're trying. Are you in touch? We're trying, yeah. We're trying.

We're trying. Yeah, we're trying to get Steve Bannon. We'll see. We'll try. Sparky says, off topic. I was skeptical of Cash Patel since he went against Assange, but seeing his apparent devotion to Trump,

having him as head of the FBI, as a bulldog may be a good thing. Yeah. The FBI needs a lot of change, just to say. As somebody, the two of us were very, very, you know, went into the weeds

during the Russia gate story. And I mean, what we saw about the FBI there really was shattering. And I was one of, if you wanted to, about me being naive. I was once naive about the FBI. Just say, not anymore. Sparky says, build a better world with bricks. Sticky Mark says, Nobel laureate John Nash and game theory is what it became known as. But I remember what he called it, F your buddy LNPs.

That's, you know, John Nash was the beautiful mind, right? Sticky marks. Yeah, that's the movie of the beautiful line, yeah. Double Down says chess is as much about protecting your king as it is about checkmating your opponent. Survival comes first. Castling late is better than pure recklessness. Well, I used to play a lot of chess. I was never great.

I was never very good at it, I have to say. But I would agree with that, actually. Sparky says, how did Spain manage to get their Briggs membership past Brussels? it's as if Brussels wasn't even aware of it. Bricks, Spain, Bricks. He's talking about the Trump statement when he was signing. Oh, I see. Oh, I see.

Of course, of course. That's right. Trump has been saying so much that it makes the head spin, actually. Elza says, I like that Trump is ignoring Queen Ursula. Yeah. Nico says, Jim said that despite the difficulties, they'll go to war because of media propaganda. but I always value your opinion the most. Hope you are right.

Well, let's hope we don't go to war. We go to war. Well, let me. You know. Sparky says, what does Brian Berletic think about President Trump suspending US aid money? I don't know. I haven't discussed it with him.

I mean, this is, as I said, this is happening at, you know, warp speeds. And we'll just have to see what, you know, where he goes. We're still in the opening days. Yeah, Sticky Mark says Annalina 360 A.K. Blurry Bearbach. Thank you for that. Sparky says, inadvertent or not General Kellogg Cornflake, Biden had corn pop, may end up being a low-key John Bolton.

Possibly. I mean, bear in mind, John Bolton was national security advisor, which put him at the absolute center of control. of the foreign policy establishment. Kellogg is just the envoy to Ukraine. I mean, he has no other role than that, as far as I can see. So he's not really in an analogous position. And he's a much older man. Yeah, he's influencing, but I think the influence is starting to weigh.

Yeah. USA now says, if not too late, do you have a link source for people fired about NGO defunding? That's on political, actually, if you go to the homepage. You'll see the article right there. But do watch the program we did with this Hungarian, Glenn Dissom, I can't... I'll try to get that up today or maybe tomorrow morning. Yeah. Because he would not...

He would, he knows, exactly. He would, he confirmed it. He knows that in Hungary, they've all been cut off. Fuzzy Ball says, can you believe the stunning similarities between Solis Sisters Ursula, van der Leyen and Kayakalis and Annalina Berbach. Is there an academy for this? There's a production line somewhere. That's manufacturing.

It's called the Klaus Schwab, W-E-F, young leader's school. Sparky says, The book, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, was a metaphor for gilded age politics. The wizard was President McKinley. The 1939 movie shifted away from politics to children's fantasies to avoid trouble. Well, maybe so.

I mean, I'm not going into the details of all. I don't know enough about that to be able to say. Kajan says, thank you so much for everything you do. You are my source of knowledge. You enlighten me every day. Love you guys. Thank you for that. Sparky says 1685 was bloody assizes.

300 were hanged. The other would have been, but there was a shortage of slaves on Barbados. So other 500 were sent there. Well, there you go. You've researched it very well. Well, Judge Jeffries, you can still find in London the site of his former chambers, by the way. Lord Chief Justice of the King's bench at that time. A ruthless judge.

Elsa says Trump is the only hypersonic weapon the U.S. has. Not bad. All right. Alexander, I think that's everything. Great live stream. Let me just check again. And your final thoughts as I check. Well, first of all, sorry that I've got a bit of a cough.

It's the last gasp of this virus infection I had last week. When I get a cough, it's a sign that it's really on its last, at its end. But other than that, an absolutely great live stream. Now, I'm going to say something. I think we are in a revolution. I think that Trump is setting off things, moving things, in ways that perhaps even he doesn't fully understand. because the most interesting thing about Trump is the sense of relief with which people have received him.

It's so different from how it was in 2016, 2017, when there was shock, anger, resistance. You remember all of that. This time, especially in America, there is a sense of relief. I remember reading the financial times of all places, all places, saying, you know, after he spoke to Davos, all of the American business people who were there were suddenly walking around with a step, you know, a bounce in their walk that they suddenly felt liberated in some ways.

And that was in the FD, the financial times. Yeah, from Fractured Zero One, floating the income tax removal and doing it are different. Oh, completely. And you're absolutely right to say that. And, you know, this is, this may never, This is a journey of 100,000 miles. We might make the single step.

We might not, however, get to the final step. It's absolutely true. But the fact that he's talking about, this is interesting and something to just notice. Yeah, very good point, Fractured one. Double Down says, can the Trump policies be carried on after his time? That's another excellent question. He's vice president, J.D. Vance,

is a very clever, very interesting man. Extremely so. Of course, he's got to be elected president in four years. Before he's elected president, he has to be the Republican Party's nominee. An awful lot may happen. We don't know what's going to happen over the next four years. So again, we'll see. But at the moment, Trump and his movement have momentum. Sticky Mark says, and Vander Crazy has been angry since someone dropped the house on her sister in Yorkshire. True. Well, thank you Marks.

And Sparky says, Captain Blood, played by Errol Flynn in the movie was tried in the bloodier sizes. She certainly was a very fine film of long ago, just saying. All right, Alexander, that's the live stream. Thank you once again to Neil McCoy Ward for joining us and I have his information down below. And a couple more questions. Alexander from Elsa, if heard that the audience at Davos is listening to Trump went from laughing into deadly silence within seconds. Correct.

You can watch the whole film of it. It's really very, very interesting. I mean, he dominated the entire conference room. Yeah, he did. And one more question came in. Second, we pull it up. From Double Down, can Trump install J.D. Vance in all the vassal governments? I'm quite sure what that means.

I mean, J.D. Commissioner of the EU. Commissioner of the EU. Well, there's a thought. Yes. I agree with you, Double Down. Yeah. You become viceroy.

Why not? America's viceroy in Brussels. That would be quite an interesting one, actually. If J.D. Vance was running the show in Brussels, it might actually manage to get some things done. Better leave Ursula in charge. True. All right.

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on Rumble is public platform for feedback from the public tonight at 6 Eastern Standard Time. Okay, gosh. Cool. We'll check it out. You'll see now. Thank you for that. All right, Alexander. Let's get some videos up.

Absolutely. All right. Take care, everybody.