The Duran Podcast - EU Ursula goes after Orban

Episode Date: October 13, 2024

EU Ursula goes after Orban

All right, Alexander, let's talk about Orban taking on Ursula, or Ursula taking on Victor Orban. And quite a display at the EU, was it at the EU Parliament? Yeah, a couple of days ago with Ursula blasting Orban. How dare Orban decide who he gives visas to and who enters Hungary? How dare he? This is an attack on EU sovereignty. It's incredible that Ursula uses words. words like EU sovereignty and stuff like that as if the European Union is a country.

But she took on Orban, and Orban demolished Ursula in his reply, basically, basically saying that the EU talks about democracy when democracy in the European Union is a sham. That's pretty much what Arban told Ursula. But let's discuss this because it does seem as if Orban and the people aligned with Arban. Saifizo and other people that are aligned with Erban are gaining strength while Ursula and her factions are her faction, her factions, her supporters are losing strength. And a lot of this comes down to Project Ukraine. Ursula got it disastrously wrong. She really, really messed up when it came to Project Ukraine and Durban got it right.

Absolutely. And I think you can start to see that Ursula, despite all the bluster, is becoming increasingly nervous and worried because the speech that she gave at the European Parliament, this extraordinary attack that she made on Orban, if you actually take a step back and think about what she said, it is incredibly defensive. She says, you know, who are you to criticise the invaded for her, in other words, the Ukrainian. for you to protect and support Putin. A personal attack on an EU leader, an increasingly widely supported EU leader, made at a time when political parties that basically agree with him are winning election after election.

They gained major ground in the European Parliament. they've gained strength in Germany, in France, now in Austria. She's also aware of the economic, the deepening economic crisis that Europe is in. The Germany, we're now getting more reports from Germany. It looks as if Germany is now heading, not just into a resertion, but into a very, very steep resertion. Before we did this program, I sent you an article in the London Times from Ian Martin, a very, very well-known commentator here. He talks about de-industrialization in Germany. Just to remind everybody, if you went back to February 22, it was weak on this channel who first said that would happen,

that, you know, when Germany suspended the operation of Nord Stream 2, we said this is going to lead to Germany's deindustrialisation. Now, the London Times, one of its most mainstream commentators is talking about it. We have an economic crisis in Europe. We have a report from Mario Draghi, which basically says that Europe needs to change fundamentally, but of course there's no real way in which Europe can change fundamentally. Doing that would put into jeopardy the entire EU project. So Ursula, I think she's sensing exactly as you said, that support amongst the people of Europe,

even amongst the political forces in Europe, is starting to air away. And she went after Orban, who the European political class have identified as their major villain. And Orban just pushed back. And he, I mean, as you correctly said, he obliterated it. But we're going to see more of these battles over the next couple of months. We're going to see a major attack on Orban now, attempts to isolate him in Europe.

Very difficult to see how that's going to happen. There's reports that Meloni and Orban, are in the process of making up, just to say. Fetzal is talking about how he might even be prepared to go to Moscow. Rebellion on every side. And Osula herself packing the commission with people from the Baltic states and Scandinavia, loyalists trying to sort of protect herself, even as one sense is that she realizes that.

that project Ukraine is failing. The Americans are walking away. Ideas for loans for Ukraine are facing stony ground. And nothing is going according to plan. Yeah. Do we get any recognition for the term deindustrialization? You came up with that term. I haven't seen a single place.

That was our term. I haven't seen a single, we did, we said it, we said it, we said with the both of it. I mean, we actually had a discussion about it. Oh, it was the day after Schultz announced. Absolutely, we did, we did a video about it, the day after Schultz announced that he'd suspended the operation of North Street. Well, that was when we first said it. And as I said, I haven't seen anybody else ever, ever acknowledged the fact that we're Yeah, great term, great term.

That, that came out. around that came out around the same time as the sanctions escalation escalator another great term but okay all all uh all jokes aside um yeah uh let's get back to to geopolitics maloney what uh what a disgrace maloney she chose the losing side yes she was aligned with urban or bond is actually a type of of mentor for her in the european union um and and she was very close to urban And then she betrayed Orban. She turned her back on Orban. And she decided to align herself with Ursula.

What a mistake that was. That shows that Maloney's judgment is extremely poor. But who knows, maybe she'll realign back with Orban. So my thinking is that, but this is going to be the fight for the future of the European Union or what the European Union will be. Will it be something along the lines of the vision of Orban? Orban. will it be something along the lines of the vision of Ursula, which would be a more centralized, much more authoritarian, but also bankrupt European Union? And they're going to go after Erban hard.

I wonder if Arbonne realizes how hard they're going to go after him. And if he's prepared to hit back. I mean, now he's gaining strength, and I think he can hit back at the powers in Brussels. But they're going to go after Aban. They're going to try to remove him from office. They're going to try to regime change him. They're going to try to put together umbrella coalitions in the next election. They've already got the guy picked out.

It's this guy Peter Magyard, who has already gained quite a lot of support. He actually did very well in the European Parliament elections. But he's the guy that the EU is setting up to remove Orban. And if he does remove Orban, then he'll move Hungary right back into play. under Ursula's thumbs. So what do you think of how things are shaping up? Does Arbonne realize the battle that lies ahead and the fact that momentum is with him? Absolutely, he does.

I don't think he's any doubt about that at all. And in fact, if you listened to his comments, I mean, he made it absolutely clear that he does understand it. He's perfectly well aware of it. He's also perfectly well aware of who's backing his opponents within Hungary and what the project is there. And I mean, he's under no doubt, but about Ursula's position, about the EU position,

her speech, even as it's attended to attack Orban, is a confession of nervousness and weakness. And it's come just directly after statements from Macron. Remember, whatever else he is, the one thing Macron has been consistent about is that he's a fervid European, his solution to every problem, as he always says, is more Europe. Anyway, Macron says that the European Union might not survive in its existing

form for more than more, for a further three years. That is, you know, living dangerously. And in that same article in the London Times that I sent to you, it basically says the same thing. It says that what the European Union risks is not that it will formally collapse, but that the central institutions of the EU will start to become so discredited that people will begin to work around them. The various member states will start to begin to work around them. We start to make decisions that basically ignore the edicts from Brussels. and that they will agree with each other shifts in policy,

which basically take no account of the EU institutions, which as a result will lose relevance. Well, that's just one possible way that it can play out. I'm not sure that that is possible, by the way. But anyway, that's what he's saying. But the point is, with the failure of project Ukraine, with the economic crisis in Europe,

which remember is deeply connected to project Ukraine, the cutting off of the energy links to Russia, the disruption of the trade links, the extreme centralisation that's taken place within the EU. With all of that, we're starting to see questions being asked about the viability of the whole project. Ursula state the future of the EU. of the EU on Project Ukraine.

Project Ukraine has failed. And there is now serious talk amongst serious people, Macron, maybe not such a serious person, but this writer on the London Times is a very serious person. A serious talk for the first time, for the first time, really, that with the failure of Project Ukraine, Project EU might fail as well. Yeah, she bet it all. On Zelensky.

Absolutely. But actually, Orban, in his speech, actually said that the EU economy is collapsing because of Project Ukraine and being cut off from Russian energy, which is something that no one in Europe dares to admit, or in the UK, to be quite honest. In the EU or the UK, they talk about recession. They talk about economic difficulties. They talk about inflation. But they never admit that it was because of Project Ukraine and because of the United.

they cut off Russia from Europe. Absolutely. They never did that. Nor can they, nor can they admit it. I mean, if Osceola went out and admitted it, she is going to inevitably provoke a crisis within Europe. Because at that point, people will say, well, look, you led us into this.

Why are you still where you are? and maybe everything that you have done and everything that you stand for, this extreme centralisation that you've imposed on us, is something that we need to dismantle. So they will never admit it. Whereas Orban, who was hostile, was at least sceptical about the whole thing from the outset, he is able to say it.

Now, some very wise man, and I forget which one, actually said that, you know, in the empire of lies, stating the truth is a revolutionary act. Orban is able to state the truth. He's stated it. He's done it within the European Parliament. He said it in Osula's presence. You could call it a revolutionary act. Yeah, just a final thought and we'll wrap up the video. The one thing that the European Union is fairly good at, it's getting the election results that they want. Sometimes they have to try a couple of times to get those results. But eventually they do get them. And that's what they're going to try with Orban. And that's what they're going to try with this opposition party, which I believe did get 30% in the European elections.

which is a very strong result for a new party, which is very aligned with Ursula. So I think that is the big threat to Orban. And that's going to be the play. That's going to be the playbook that Ursula puts in place. Remove Orban in the next elections. This is what her speech to the European Parliament was all about. It's in effect preparing the ground to support this party in the Hungarian elections.

in order to remove Orban from the sea. Because Orban standing up in the European Parliament, telling the truth about who has caused the crisis in Europe, is something which, of course, she cannot allow. Because you cannot allow the truth to come through. Because if you do, and if the truth is widely heard, then as I said, her whole position, and that is the EU-Centic collapses.

Yeah, it all comes. comes down to the Hungarian people, I guess, and how they vote in the next elections. Anyway. All right. We will leave it there. The durand.orgals.com.

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